[00:04] <dwf_starband> no toggle bit mask found. But I know for sure that RC6 has a toggle bit!
[00:04] <dwf_starband> does that mean that my try at recordig the remote failed?
[00:08] <dwf_starband> Daviey?
[00:22] <dwf_starband> do the mceusb receivers work with usb1.1?
[00:23] <dwf_starband> i added my dishnetwork configuration to the bottom of the lircd.conf just like I have on my backend and my dishnetwork remote doesnt even work, so I dont think its a problem with the right config problem
[00:23] <dwf_starband> thats what makes me wonder If its something with the hardware
[00:31] <solarbaby> Daviey: I am filling my database now with schedules direct
[00:32] <solarbaby> dwf_starband: are you trying to get your USBUIRT to control your DishNetwork tuner?
[00:32] <dwf_starband> no i already have everything setup on my backend
[00:32] <dwf_starband> im just trying to get my frontend working,
[00:32] <solarbaby> oh alright.. I wrote a howto for that a little while back.. its a great little guide
[00:33] <dwf_starband> i have a desktop/backend/frontend working (except fot the ocasional pink screen of death)
[00:33] <solarbaby> so is your frontend not handshaking with your database?
[00:33] <dwf_starband> my frontend works fine aswell, im just trying to get the remote to work with it
[00:33] <solarbaby> oh i see
[00:34] <solarbaby> I haven't configured multiple IR devices in Lirc yet..  I dont think its very hard though
[00:34] <solarbaby> I will be doing that at some point though
[00:39] <solarbaby> well I seem to have the same problem with schedules direct..  Hmmm..  not a big suprise but doubly upsetting
[00:53] <hendrixski> hey, since mythtv uses ffmpeg + mods as its internal media player
[00:54] <hendrixski> does it get packaged separately?
[00:55] <hendrixski> or are the ffmpeg libraries just a part of libmyth?
[01:02] <directhex> it's in mythtv/libs/libavcodec in the source tree, but it's all compiled into libmythavcodec
[01:05] <hendrixski> directhex, ah, K.  so it's all in the libmyth package in ubuntu... and not from the ffmpeg package
[01:05] <directhex> well, no, since mythtv can't work without it, and the mythtv packages don't Depends: on ffmpeg
[01:06] <hendrixski> directhex, I checked the wiki to make sure that I wasn't being a dingus, and nowhere in there is there any reference about what the internal player is made of
[01:07] <directhex> the internal player is the same player as myth uses for recordings. so the question is "what does mythtv use for its AV processing & displaying code", not anything specific to the internal player
[01:07]  * hendrixski doesn't follow
[01:10] <directhex> it's not something that even matters unless you're a developer, and it's not something specific to the "internal player" - libavcodec is used in several places
[01:13] <hendrixski> directhex, well, like I said, I'm trying to get enough of an understanding of mythtv so that I can contribute stuff back to it in a developers capacity
[01:14] <hendrixski> and I keep hearing "no hendrixski you're retarded, shut up and go read the wiki, don't ask us" so I go read the wiki, and of course it's not there
[01:14] <hendrixski> is there a better resource for developers to get started other than the wiki?
[01:18] <directhex> typically? the source code. it's not enormously complex in any of the sections you'd want to go near
[01:19] <directhex> christ, it's years since i've done any serious c++, hate the language generally, but i've hacked on the myth source "blind" and had changes go upstream
[01:21] <solarbaby> Daviey: If I had to guess, the zap2it xml scraper currupted my old database somehow
[01:21] <solarbaby> Daviey: its all working now..  too bad I had to delete my old database though..  that can drive a man to drink!
[01:21] <directhex> solarbaby, well, if you must use the scraper to save $20
[01:22] <solarbaby> no I dont care about saving $20 at all
[01:22] <solarbaby> I just dont have access to my paypal account while im out of state
[01:22] <solarbaby> If I could mail cash to schedules direct i'd do it right now..  instead I just signed up for another demo account until I can get some money in my paypal
[01:23] <hendrixski> lol..  it's not complex per se it's just illegible.  there's maybe 3 classes total that have any comments at all.
[01:25] <hendrixski> probably doesn't help that this is my first open source project I'm trying to get into... it probably gets easier as time goes on.
[01:26] <directhex> some seactions are more heavyweight than others
[01:26] <directhex> and myth is rather large
[01:27] <hendrixski> yeah, it's huge.
[01:28] <hendrixski> I just rapped my head around the gContext thing last week... which made it feel a little more manageable than it did before I knew how that worked
[01:31] <solarbaby> SD has much better performance.. more listing info]
[01:31] <solarbaby> and TVwish works with it
[01:41] <zeke> there a channel for knoppmyth?
[01:44] <zeke> guess not...
[01:47] <solarbaby> only problem I have now is that mythweb can't access my new database
[01:49] <zeke> I try to do an aptitude dist-upgrade and it tells me I have lots of broken packages and unmet dependencies
[01:49] <zeke> this on knoppmyth...can't find a channel for that
[01:49] <tgm4883_laptop> zeke, use mythbuntu :)
[01:50] <zeke> i.e. linux mce?
[01:50] <tgm4883_laptop> Mythbuntu
[01:51] <zeke> basically the same thing isn't it?  both use ubuntu kernel as backend
[01:51] <zeke> or am I sorely mistaken?
[01:52] <tgm4883_laptop> so when i say mythbuntu, you hear linuxmce?
[01:52] <zeke> I'm just not sure of the difference
[01:52] <zeke> not trying to gainsay your advice
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> i dont know what linuxmce is based on
[01:54] <zeke> it said ubuntu kernel
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> i do know that it is a huge ripoff of plutohome
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> huge
[01:55] <zeke> heh
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> and i wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole
[01:55] <foxbuntu> LinuxMCE is more based on a morphed version of Pluto and MythTV
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> linuxmce is a black mark on the existance of linux
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> imho
[01:55] <zeke> hmmm
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> almost as much as plutohome
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not sure which company makes me feel dirtier
[01:56] <foxbuntu> linuxmce is a project that will die at some point mearly because they burned the bridges back to the community
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> probably
[01:56] <zeke> pluto home freeware?
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> bunch of rip off artists
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> zeke, yes
[01:57] <zeke> hmmm...then I guess it would be difficult to tell which one makes you feel dirtier
[01:57]  * foxbuntu stabs linuxmce with a rusty spoon
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> no foxbuntu
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> $poke linuxmce
[01:58] <foxbuntu> haha
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> i swear mythbot never works for me :(
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> $guide
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> $mythbot
[01:58] <foxbuntu> $poke tgm4883_laptop
[01:58] <rooaus> The linuxmce guy used to work for pluto I think.
[01:58] <foxbuntu> anywho...
[01:58] <zeke> gui install with mythbuntu?  never had much luck with text installs
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> i feel better now
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> yes zeke
[01:59] <zeke> tried it with freeBSD and got no desktop environment afterwards
[01:59] <foxbuntu> zeke, we have the cleanest and easiest install between then MythTV Derivitives
[01:59] <zeke> I'm listening
[01:00] <foxbuntu> zeke, our install is bascailly a Ubuntu LiveCD that asks a few extra questions to setup MythTV
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[01:01] <foxbuntu> troy_s, you there?
[01:01] <zeke> 10' display?
[01:01] <foxbuntu> what?
[01:01] <zeke> I'm a bit hard of seeing it as it from here with knoppmyth
[01:02] <foxbuntu> what?
[01:03] <zeke> 10' (ten foot display) made for navigating easier from your couch which is, on average, about ten feet from the couch
[01:03] <zeke> talking about OSD
[01:03] <foxbuntu> ah
[01:03] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Go
[01:04] <foxbuntu> troy_s, we need to find a time to have a devel meeting about artwork
[01:04] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Ok.  Tonite?
[01:04] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Who is involved etc...
[01:04] <foxbuntu> you and the rest of the team
[01:04] <foxbuntu> not tonight
[01:04] <troy_s> foxbuntu: Any issues at hand?
[01:05] <foxbuntu> but upcoming
[01:05] <zeke> and by "from the couch" I mean "from the tv"
[01:05] <zeke> or I could just get glasses
[01:05] <foxbuntu> troy_s, pm
[01:06] <zeke> flux, gnome, kde?
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> xfce
[01:07] <zeke> ah
[01:10] <zeke> can I do an dual install with knoppmyth to try it out?
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> you should be able to just fine
[01:13] <zeke> I just wish I had usb 2.0 on this now...not exactly sure how to burn files to dvd
[01:16] <zeke> schedules direct support?
[01:16] <tgm4883_laptop> OOB
[01:16] <zeke> N?
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[01:17] <zeke> lol
[01:17] <zeke> but of course
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> OOB = Out Of Box
[01:17] <zeke> oh
[01:18] <zeke> so basically everything knoppmyth is only better/easier to use?
[01:24] <zeke> iyho
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> what?
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> kinda
[01:39] <MythbuntuGuest41> I would like some assistance getting a mythbuntu connected to the backend on a frontend & backend combined install.
[01:44] <fg_> Hello! is someone there?
[01:45] <toorima> $hello
[01:45] <fg_> I've installed MythBuntu 7.10 on my pc and need some help to tune it up.
[01:47] <toorima> say what you need help with and maybe someone can help
[01:48] <fg_> First, no sound comes out. My motherboard has an Intel hda sound controller. Driver software seems well choosen in the settings manager, but I cannot find sound controller software.
[01:49] <toorima> search ubuntuforums.org for your motherboard and sound but i think it is you have to load a module to get it to work
[01:51] <tgm4883_laptop> you can select which audio device it uses
[01:54] <MythbuntuGuest41> I can't connect to the backend from a local frontend.  I've read the forums and am still unable to connect.
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest41, what did you set the ip addresss to?
[01:56] <MythbuntuGuest41> localhost
[01:56] <MythbuntuGuest41> in the frontend
[01:57] <toorima> MythbuntuGuest41: u need to set up the backend with its real ip and frontend to that ip
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> it should work either way
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> actually
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> it might not work with localhost, i've never tried
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> 127.0.0.1 would work though
[01:58] <toorima> oh local frontend
[01:58] <toorima> my misstake
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> can you start mythfrontend from the command line and look for errors
[01:58] <fg_> "mythbuntu alsa mixer" makes it.
[01:58] <MythbuntuGuest41> on the backend I have the real ip because I am going to use a remote frontend too.  let me verify the frontend ip.
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest41, then activate the mysql service and use the real backend ip address
[03:21] <MythbuntuGuest41> I have setup mythbuntu on a frontend & backend with localhost for the backend and frontend and I cannot connect to the backend.
[03:21] <MitoTranin> well... yeah, of course...
[03:21] <MitoTranin> that's because you're telling the frontend to use itself as a backend, and that's not what you need to do
[03:25] <MythbuntuGuest41> This is a frontend and backend on the same machine.
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest41, yes, you still need to use at least 127.0.0.1
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> AFAIK
[03:26] <MitoTranin> ah, well that makes it a little better, but still... it's always best to use your real IP
[03:26] <MitoTranin> and even if you don't, you want to use the localhost numbers, not name
[03:26] <MitoTranin> the numbers are what tgm4883_laptop just mentioned, 127.0.0.1
[03:26] <MitoTranin> btw: hi tgm4883_ :)
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> hi
[03:27] <MythbuntuGuest41> I had it setup with localhost numbers.
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> did you ever get that serial IR receiver working?
[03:27] <MitoTranin> haven't seen superm1 yet
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest41, did you start the frontend from the command line and look for errors?
[03:28] <MitoTranin> and I really don't want to go screwing around with my install now that it's working 100% other than that
[03:28] <MitoTranin> I might setup a remote frontend to screw around with it there though
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest41> I get errors saying it can't connect and it has timed out.
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> what ip address did you use?
[03:30] <tgm4883_laptop> in the backend setup
[03:30] <MitoTranin> are you sure the mythbackend is running properly?
[03:31] <MythbuntuGuest41> 127.0.0.1, before that i was trying it's actual ip address.
[03:32] <tgm4883_laptop> can you do
[03:32] <MythbuntuGuest41> The backend seems to be running fine.  I can get into mysql command prompt and I've done the mythconverg.
[03:32] <tgm4883_laptop> /etc/init.d/mythbackend start
[03:32] <tgm4883_laptop> youve done what mythconverg?
[03:33] <MitoTranin> lol
[03:33] <MitoTranin> if you're running mythbuntu, you shouldn't have had to do ANYTHING with the command line, mysql, or mythconverg in order to get the system working
[03:34] <MitoTranin> if you've messed around with that stuff, you really need to mention what you did and why so that we know how to proceed, because otherwise there's no telling what type of condition your system is in
[03:34] <MythbuntuGuest41> I didn't at all until I tried to trouble shoot my frontend connection problems.
[03:35] <MitoTranin> so what did you do then?
[03:36] <MythbuntuGuest41> I get this when I restart "* Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables."
[03:37] <MitoTranin> that's fine and normal
[03:38] <MitoTranin> that just means it's *looking* for such things... it does not mean that it is finding such things
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> how does your backend get it's IP address
[03:43] <MythbuntuGuest41> I'm trying localhost, isolated backend & frontend only.
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> how does your backend get it's IP address
[04:00] <tgm4883_laptop> how does your backend get it's IP address
[04:02] <MythbuntuGuest86> I don't think that applies because I'm trying to get a combined frontend & backend to work.
[04:04] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest86, open up MCC
[04:04] <tgm4883_laptop> and test your connection to mysql
[04:10] <MythbuntuGuest86> k. I'll give that a try.
[04:11] <MitoTranin> MythbuntuGuest86: your IP always applies, regardless of how many systems you are using... and how your system obtains its IP applies as well...
[04:20] <MythbuntuGuest86> I can't test the mysql connection from the MCC, it's grayed out and I can't click the test button.
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> theres your problem
[04:20] <tgm4883_laptop> what kind of install did you do?
[04:23] <MythbuntuGuest86> mythbuntu install on top of exising Ubuntu Gutsy desktop.
[04:23] <tgm4883_laptop> how did you install it?
[04:23] <tgm4883_laptop> any guides?
[04:24] <MythbuntuGuest86> Gutsy or Mythbuntu/
[04:24] <MythbuntuGuest86> ?
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> mythbuntu
[04:27] <MythbuntuGuest86> I used the mythbuntu.org guide.
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> in MCC
[04:28] <tgm4883_laptop> what system roles are selected?
[04:29] <MythbuntuGuest86> backend Primary backend and frontend.
[04:30] <tgm4883_laptop> open up synaptic and tell me if mysql-server is installed
[04:30] <MythbuntuGuest86> k. standby.
[04:31] <MythbuntuGuest86> Yes it is.
[04:31] <tgm4883_laptop> what about mythtv-database?
[04:32] <MythbuntuGuest86> yes that is too.
[04:34] <MitoTranin> quick question here... what is your intent of this machine?
[04:34] <MitoTranin> do you actually intend to use it as a workstation?
[04:34] <MitoTranin> or is it's only function to be a mythtv system?
[04:34] <MythbuntuGuest86> master backend with frontend.
[04:34] <MitoTranin> that's not the answer to my question
[04:35] <MitoTranin> do you intend to use this computer as a workstation, or for anything else other than things dealing with MythTV?
[04:35] <MythbuntuGuest86> mythtv system and file server.
[04:36] <MythbuntuGuest86> not as a primary workstation.
[04:36] <MitoTranin> ok... then tgm4883_laptop, feel free to back me up, or give other advice here... but MythbuntuGuest86, I hugely strongly suggest that you start from a clean slate and wipe/reinstall the system from the latest mythbuntu cd
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> MitoTranin, +1
[04:37] <MitoTranin> I can promise with almost 100% surity, that your problems will be solved
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> I dont know what you did to your system
[04:37] <tgm4883_laptop> but it is fscked up
[04:38] <MitoTranin> AND, you will have better system performance, because you will be using xfce instead of gnome, AND you will have full integration, AND you will still have the ability to run the system as a file server
[04:38] <MitoTranin> there are zero downsides, and a ton of benefits to you reinstalling right now
[04:40] <MythbuntuGuest86> I'll give it a try.  Thanks for the advice.  It's late here in Michigan so I'm going to have to try this tommorw, thanks again.
[04:42] <MitoTranin> why did he feel the need to mention his state?
[04:43] <MitoTranin> I'm in the same time-zone and don't feel the need for that :)
[04:43]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[04:43] <MitoTranin> so tgm4883_laptop any ideas on my remote?
[04:43] <MitoTranin> :)
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> the serial receiver?
[04:44] <MitoTranin> yeah
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> nope
[04:44] <tgm4883_laptop> I think you will be ok with the guide
[04:45] <MitoTranin> hey, wasn't that meeting the other day?
[04:45] <MitoTranin> how'd it go?
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[04:45] <tgm4883_laptop> went good
[04:45] <MitoTranin> I was going to remind my cousin about that
[04:45] <MitoTranin> I doubt he remembered to go though
[04:46] <tgm4883_laptop> who?
[04:46] <MitoTranin> my cousin was going to come to it, he does quite a bit of programing
[04:46] <MitoTranin> and loves mythbuntu after I showed it to him :)
[04:46] <MitoTranin> he's been a mythtv fiend for a while... actually the person who got me into it
[04:46] <MitoTranin> he would have gone by Tim somehting
[04:47]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[05:17] <tgm4883_laptop> MitoTranin, how is your mirror doing?
[05:19] <MitoTranin> tgm4883_laptop: syncing every night...
[05:19] <tgm4883_laptop> how much bandwidth used?
[05:19] <MitoTranin> has had over 100gb usage since the release
[05:19] <MitoTranin> per day that is
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest39> is there a reason the i386 7.01 mythbuntu install disk seg faults on start up on an XP1800+ on the ALiMaGIK chipset?
[05:19] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[05:20] <MythbuntuGuest39> I just can't figure out what's causing it
[05:22] <MythbuntuGuest39> it's a problem with ubuntu Feisty (at least) because feisty does the same thing
[05:23] <tgm4883_laptop> does the gutsy install cd work?
[05:23] <MythbuntuGuest39> I'm burning it right now
[05:23] <tgm4883_laptop> the live cd that is
[05:23] <MythbuntuGuest39> I'll tell you in about 5 min
[05:25] <MythbuntuGuest39> ahhh... you know what...
[05:25] <MythbuntuGuest39> it may be a bad ribbon cable
[05:26] <MythbuntuGuest39> all sorts of weird things are happening with the drive now
[05:26] <MythbuntuGuest39> or a bad IDE channel (hopefully not)
[05:35] <MythbuntuGuest39> nope... the IDE channels and cables are actually good
[05:35] <MythbuntuGuest39> hmm
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest39> both the i386 gutsy and feisty installs are seg faulting
[05:36] <tgm4883_laptop> bad drive?
[05:36] <tgm4883_laptop> bad memory?
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest39> I'll run a memtest
[05:36] <MythbuntuGuest39> and a drive test
[05:39] <MythbuntuGuest39> and actually, I may be wrong about the IDE channel / cable... it just ran stably for slightly longer
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest39> well, good call on the memory
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest39> one of my older sticks went bad
[05:45] <MitoTranin> tgm4883_laptop: I guess I was wrong... I hadn't checked my BW yesterday or today, the downloads have gone down
[05:45] <tgm4883_laptop> MitoTranin, how much?
[05:45] <MitoTranin> 121gb 1st day, 219gb 2nd day, 105gb 3rd day, 70gb 4th, 58gb 5th
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest39> will a back/frontend run decently with only 512MB ram?
[05:45] <MitoTranin> but 58gb is still higher for a single day than it ever saw before release
[05:45] <tgm4883_laptop> my calculations are they we are doing about 450GB per day
[05:45] <MitoTranin> highest then was 52
[05:46] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest39, that should be fine
[05:46] <MitoTranin> I only run 512
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest39> cool, well hopefully everything gets up and running now
[05:58] <MythbuntuGuest39> what does the message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" mean when you're trying to start up
[06:05] <MythbuntuGuest39> *note that I don't have a SATA drive*
[06:06] <MythbuntuGuest39> shoot... I just read how difficult this problem may be on the forums
[06:07] <MythbuntuGuest39> boohiss
[07:18] <solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: I love MythTV
[07:19] <solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: its a love hate relationship.. very pationate
[07:52] <solarbaby> tgm4883_laptop: you were right scrapers are evil things
[13:10] <therethinker> $test
[14:16]  * Tari waves
[14:17] <Tari> my frontend appears to have forgotten the database password while I was gone for a couple days
[14:17] <Tari> (I'm guessing it auto-updated to 7.10 final)
[14:17] <Tari> anyone know how I can recover that pass?
[14:18] <MitoTranin> it should be in /etc/mysql/mysql.txt if I remember correctly
[14:19] <Tari> no such file or directory
[14:20] <MitoTranin> sorry, /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[14:20] <Tari> good, that works
[14:23] <Tari> ..or not
[14:23] <Tari> either that's not the real pass, or there's something else wrong
[14:24] <Tari> the frontend starts, prompts for language and db info, and repeats when I enter that info
[14:27] <Tari> ah, here's the underlying error
[14:27] <Tari> the db server can't start, since the partition containing /var/lib/mysql is full
[14:28] <MitoTranin> ah, yeah, that would do it
[14:33] <Tari> it's also a bit of a problem for me
[14:34] <Tari> since the root parition is 3-4 gigs, I think
[14:34] <Tari> and /myth (recordings and all that) is another drive, ~40 gigs
[14:38] <Tari> hmm..
[14:38] <Tari> would it be safe to delete the contents of /var/log?
[14:40] <therethinker> $mythbot
[14:47]  * Tari wanders off to find another hard drive for lvm
[15:34] <marcel> Anyone tried the Silverstone LC10 casing + iMon remote that comes with it ? Should it work "out of the box" with mythbuntu ?
[15:58] <zagibu> i have a rather noobish question: why is my new TV equipped with a 1366x768 panel, when 720p is actually 1280x720?
[16:00] <Tari> overscan?
[16:01] <zagibu> on a digital panel?
[16:01] <popey> yes
[16:01] <popey> most TVs do that
[16:01] <zagibu> what for?
[16:02] <popey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
[16:03] <zagibu> hmmm, ok, thanks...so what resolution should i use on my mythbox?
[16:05] <zagibu> you know, I connected it to the tv using a DVI to HDMI cable
[16:06] <zagibu> but if I let it detect the screen automatically, it only presents me the modes 480p and 1080i
[16:07] <zagibu> and both don't fit on the screen (image is cropped at all sides)
[16:19] <tafkaz> hm...mythbuntu runs pretty fine now...but does anyone here know how to use wythwelcome instead of mythfrontend as the starter ?
[16:20] <tafkaz> the xfce autostarrt function doesnt seem to help
[16:25] <marcel> zagibu: I use  720p as resolution
[16:25] <marcel> But it also depends on your vidcard
[16:25] <marcel> if it alows u tio use the native panel resolution than use that one
[16:25] <CanadianMan> greetings
[16:25] <zagibu> could you show me the relevant entries in xorg.conf?
[16:26] <marcel> well actualy it does that out of the box
[16:26] <marcel> but that also depends on the type of tv u use
[16:26] <marcel> and what information it reports back to your vidcard
[16:27] <zagibu> it's detected as generic, supporting 480p and 1080i, but it really is a 720p screen
[16:28] <marcel> well it actuallu is 1366x768 :)
[16:28] <marcel> what vidcard u have ?
[16:29] <zagibu> an onboard intel
[16:29] <marcel> hmm dont know about that then
[16:30] <marcel> Wait a few months until vc-1 and x264 are hw supported in ati  or nvidia drivers
[16:30] <marcel> and by that one :)
[16:30] <tafkaz> so everyone here uses mythfrontend instead of mythwelcome ?
[16:31] <tafkaz> mythwelcome is the much better way to start myth...i cant believe its not the standard
[16:31] <tafkaz> in mythbuntu
[16:31] <marcel> btw i also switched my HDMI cabel from el-cheapo to a decent one. That work much better also
[16:31] <tafkaz> but its even worse, that putting it into the autostart doesnt work
[16:32] <tafkaz> cant find any answers...
[16:32] <marcel> tafkaz: I dont know wheter its packaged in mythbuntu.
[16:32] <tafkaz> it is, and it works perfectly
[16:32] <marcel> But it shouldn't be hard to add
[16:32] <tafkaz> only it will not start as autostart
[16:32] <tafkaz> well...thats what i thought
[16:32] <tafkaz> but i cannot get it to run....
[16:33] <marcel> use the control panel to disable autostart first
[16:33] <tafkaz> i read some people have the same prob with mythbuntu, but i didnt find any answers
[16:33] <tafkaz> i used the controlpanel to disable mythtv autostart, and then added mythwelcome
[16:34] <tafkaz> that causes my gui to hang after reboot
[16:36] <tafkaz> hm but i try it again !
[17:06] <just1nj> anyone alive
[17:31] <CanadianMan> i'm using mythbuntu and for some reason the movie posters that mythvideo downloads are being corrupted.  they have a size of 0.
[17:31] <CanadianMan> everything else is fine plot, rating, time length, director
[17:32] <Daviey> CanadianMan: checked the permissions of where you store video's?
[17:33] <CanadianMan> the folder is 777 and the images are 644
[17:34] <CanadianMan> oh store the video's i'm sorry. what i gave you were the posters
[17:34] <Daviey> CanadianMan: hmm no idea then sorry.. In 30 mins i'll try it and see if i can reproduce
[17:34] <CanadianMan> ok cool thank you
[17:35] <CanadianMan> the folder is 755 and the video files are 744
[17:36] <Daviey> and who is the owner of the folder?
[17:36] <Daviey> ls -al /folder/location
[17:37] <CanadianMan> i am the owner of the folder
[17:38] <solarbaby> Daviey: Mythbuntu wins another point, and scrappers fall back.
[17:38] <Daviey> solarbaby: woot!
[17:38] <solarbaby> hehehe :)
[17:39] <solarbaby> Daviey: my appolagises for yesterdate, I was really fuming
[17:39] <Daviey> heh.. can be very much like that sometimes
[17:40] <solarbaby> Nod..  as far as I knew I was totally done working all the bugs out..  and then WHOP!
[17:40] <solarbaby> The Beauty is I finally got TVWish working when I switched over to SD.. and I love TVWish its a set of awesome scripts
[17:41]  * Daviey knows nothing of TVWish
[17:41] <Daviey> but, scrappers _will_ break 'weekly'
[17:41] <solarbaby> I'll take care of that for you
[17:41] <solarbaby> yeah obviously..  I was stupid to even set one up
[17:42] <solarbaby> Daviey: http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvwish.html
[17:43] <Daviey> sounds good ^
[17:43] <ckw> is there a way to control the background recording that mythtv does for it live tv functions?
[17:43] <Daviey> "background recording"
[17:43] <Daviey> ?
[17:44] <ckw> probably a bad choice of words
[17:44] <solarbaby> Its not a LIVETV based deal, it just adds more content to your list of recordings
[17:45] <ckw> when i launch myth and watch for a while and then turn it off i end up with files in excess of 100 MB sometimes in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[17:45] <solarbaby> Read the page carefully..  it makes MythTV way more programmable then Tivo will ever become
[17:46] <dwf_starband> Daviey: do the mceusb remote receivers work on usb 1.1?
[17:46] <dwf_starband> in mythbuntu?
[17:46] <ckw> is there some way to define a limit on the space that it will use?
[17:48] <ckw> for example...i have been watching for 45 minutes and i have a resulting file in excess of 600 mb and growing....when i close myth that file remains...i dont want that to happen
[17:49] <solarbaby> that'll be scary when I finally fill my 500 gig drive
[17:49] <solarbaby> heh
[17:49] <ckw> for example...i have been watching for 45 minutes and i have a resulting file in excess of 600 mb and growing....when i close myth that file remains...i dont want that to happen
[17:49] <solarbaby> <--- Gives Superm1 a big wet one
[17:49] <superm1> Hi solarbaby :)
[17:49] <solarbaby> good to seeya again!
[17:50] <superm1> been traveling, so offline for a few days
[17:50] <superm1> keescook, you here yet?
[17:50] <solarbaby> superm1: I learned my lesson with scrapers for epg..  wow was that a bad idea
[17:50] <superm1> what's that?
[17:50] <keescook> superm1: hi!
[17:50] <superm1> keescook, i just got situated up here :)
[17:51] <solarbaby> superm1: I was scraping zap2it..  but that seriosuly messes with the database..  I since dropped my database and started a fresh one (YAY I finally learned how to do that)
[17:51] <keescook> superm1: ah, very cool.  I'm on floor 3, to the right of the elevators at the moment.
[17:51] <superm1> keescook, i'm on the 5th at the end.  did you grab lunch yet?
[17:51] <solarbaby> superm1: things we only wish to experiment with when we have a new install like mine
[17:51] <superm1> solarbaby, yick
[17:52] <keescook> superm1: yeah, ate already.  there's a nice sandwich shop called "Cinderella's" on the other side of Mass Ave
[17:52] <superm1> i saw a few oriental places that i was thinking, but maybe a sandwich is more appropriate for lunch
[17:55] <superm1> ah looks like a whole bunch of *-motu folks are going to eat, i'll join them :)
[17:59] <Daviey> superm1: ah.. you arrived ok then :)
[18:00] <superm1> Daviey, yeah
[18:00] <Daviey> superm1: good 'o
[18:00] <superm1> Daviey, i'm a wee bit tired though
[18:00] <Daviey> I need to have another loom at the schedule for this week
[18:00] <superm1> some bloat from the UK is rooming with me, but he hasn't arrived yet
[18:00] <Daviey> oh dear.. a tired superm1 is a grumpy one :þ
[18:00] <superm1> well a hungry one is more trouble
[18:00] <superm1> i haven't eaten since yesterday dinner
[18:01] <Daviey> heh.. who is rooming with you?>
[18:01] <superm1> i dunno his name off hand.  i just saw that he was from the UK with his address listed on the room checkin
[18:02] <Daviey> groovy
[18:03] <superm1> egads, why are our forums so freaking busy?
[18:04] <Daviey> hint.. forums suck
[18:06] <superm1> well if we didn't have them, how would those people get help?
[18:07] <Daviey> Launchpad Answers
[18:07] <Daviey> ie, a proper support place :)
[18:12]  * tgm4883 pulls a superm1 and sneaks in
[18:19] <CanadianMan> sorry to post the same question but since there's a few more chatting. . .does anyone know why my movie posters when being downloaded by MythVideo are having a size of 0?
[18:54] <marcel> CanadianMan: tested with latest trunk, works here
[18:54] <CanadianMan> ok thank you
[18:54] <CanadianMan> i'm sorry but what does latest trunk mean?
[18:55] <CanadianMan> version?
[18:55] <marcel> weeklybuilds (from trunk) latest version from svn
[18:55] <CanadianMan> gotcha ty
[19:18] <solarbaby> Im not seeing a way in Mythtv to ask it to only record new episodes
[19:24] <solarbaby> I found it
[20:00] <just1nj> anyone alive
[20:01] <directhex> braaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnssssssssssss
[20:07] <just1nj> superm1 your around?
[20:15] <therethinker> $mythbot
[20:15] <mythbot> Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.
[20:28] <tgm4883_laptop> $alive
[20:28] <tgm4883_laptop> ubotu still dead :(
[20:28] <tgm4883_laptop> $add
[20:29] <tgm4883_laptop> $additem.
[20:29] <mythbot> format '$additem:keyword:description' -- Not everyone can do this, only mythtv devs!
[20:29] <tgm4883_laptop> $additem alive Don't ask if we're alive.  Ask your question and we will answer if we are alive
[20:29] <tgm4883_laptop> $alive
[20:30] <just1nj> righto
[20:30] <tgm4883_laptop> $hello
[20:30] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[20:30] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[20:30] <just1nj> alive
[20:30] <just1nj> $alive
[20:30] <just1nj> hello
[20:30] <just1nj> $hello
[20:30] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[20:31] <tgm4883_laptop> $abuse
[20:31] <mythbot> Yes, I get it.  You've never seen a bot doing it's thing.  Now stop abusing me.
[20:32] <just1nj> anything, i am still having an issue where mythfrontend is getting started more than once at login
[20:32] <tgm4883_laptop> $additem:alive:Don't ask if we're alive.  Ask your question and we will answer if we are alive
[20:32] <mythbot> Added help file for alive
[20:33] <tgm4883_laptop> there we go
[20:33] <tgm4883_laptop> $alive
[20:33] <mythbot> Don't ask if we're alive.  Ask your question and we will answer if we are alive
[20:33] <just1nj> alive
[20:34] <just1nj> does the bot have interval it waits before it gives the same response again
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> $runover just1nj
[20:34] <mythbot> /action takes wireless control of just1nj's car, and runs him over
[20:34] <just1nj> lol
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[20:34] <tgm4883_laptop> you need $
[20:35] <just1nj> gotcha it a tigger based on the $
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> $mbot
[20:35] <mythbot> What is thy bidding, my master?
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> $whack just1nj
[20:35] <mythbot> /action whacks just1nj
[20:35] <tgm4883_laptop> see
[20:35] <just1nj> $ doesnt act like a wild card and causes the response whenever the tigger is observed
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> $ lets mythbot know your talking to it
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> in fact
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> if ubotu was in here the previous commands would have gotten a response
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> anything where $ is the first char
[20:36] <tgm4883_laptop> if mythbot doesn't know it asks ubotu
[20:36] <just1nj> i jsut about to go there
[20:37] <just1nj> its been years since i have played much with irc bots
[20:37]  * just1nj had to give up irc to finish college
[20:40] <just1nj> anyway, from what i can figure the mythfrontend script does a lot of checking of stuff when invoked in service mode, but does not bother to check to see if the the script or the real frontend is already running
[20:41] <just1nj> which is genearlly a good idea if you running something as a service and that is what i am thinking my problem is,
[20:41] <just1nj> coupled with a timining issue between network startup, mysql startup, and backup startup
[20:44] <just1nj> eww my dog just flung drewl all over my macbook pro which i jusy cleaned not an hour ago
[21:21] <just1nj> $bored
[21:21] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "The first record of the word boredom is in the novel, Bleak House, by Charles Dickens, written in 1852,[1] although the expression to be a bore had been used in the sense of 'to be tiresome or dull' since 1768.[2]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bored
[21:21] <just1nj> haha nice
[21:22] <just1nj> $wikipedia
[21:22] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, you can find it at http://wikipedia.org
[21:22] <just1nj> irc bots have evolved since i used them regularly
[21:22] <just1nj> $bot
[21:22] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:25] <just1nj> $cups
[21:25] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[21:25] <directhex> $saucers
[21:25] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "saucers", sorry.
[21:27] <just1nj> haha
[21:28] <just1nj> $beer
[21:28] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Beer is the world's oldest[1] and most popular[2][3] alcoholic beverage." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer
[21:29] <directhex> $mead
[21:29] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Mead (IPA: /ˈmiːd/) is a fermented alcoholic beverage made of honey, water, and yeast." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead
[21:30] <just1nj> $force
[21:30] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "In physics, force is an action or agency that causes a body of mass m to accelerate." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force
[21:32] <just1nj> $mythbot
[21:32] <mythbot> Hi! I know a lot about MythTV! I can also do things like look stuff up on wikipedia. To see what I know, use $. To learn more about me, say $help.
[21:32] <just1nj> $mythfrontend.real
[21:32] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[21:33] <just1nj> um
[21:33] <just1nj> $mythfrontend
[21:33] <mythbot> mythfrontend is the front-end program. This program runs on the computer you watch TV on. There can be more than one frontend connect to a backend at one time.
[22:16] <ckw> I had a perfectly working mythtv setup going on a single machine...i reconfigured the backend as the primary and setup the laptop with the frontend and got it all working except now i have no sound at all on either machine....just in myth...system sound works otherwise on both...i am starting to research this but thought it wouldnt hurt to lay it out here in case someone might know whats up off the top of their head.
[22:16] <Tari> you might have it muted in myth
[22:19] <CanadianMan> where do i set samba to start on boot up in mythbuntu?
[22:21] <Tari> I think it starts by default
[22:22] <ckw> Tari:i thought of that....however when i try to use f9 to toggle mute i get no display anymore....likewise with f10 and f11
[22:22] <CanadianMan> if i reboot my box i have to ssh into and run sudo /etc/init.d/samba start to share files again
[22:23] <ckw> Tari:i mean that i get no display of the volume control...not that i lose the main display
[23:54] <MythbuntuGuest41> any one here? I am having massive trouble getting a HD resolution out of mythbuntu 1366x768 to be exact
[23:55] <superm1> how so?
[23:55] <superm1> what is it 1360x768?
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, it's a big problem
[23:56] <tgm4883_laptop> nvidia?
[23:56] <superm1> how is that a big problem?
[23:56] <superm1> 6 pixels?
[23:57] <MythbuntuGuest41> i would love to get 1360 but it should be 1366 so the mac and windows machines say
[23:57] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest41: What graphics card?
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> are you even getting 1360?
[23:58] <MythbuntuGuest41> not even when i put in the xorg file, it never even shows up as an option
[23:58] <MythbuntuGuest41> intergrated nvidia 1650 gforce
[23:59] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest41, put in "nvidia-auto-select"
[23:59] <superm1> as a resolution
[23:59] <superm1> if its not there
[23:59] <superm1> otherwise pastebin your xorg.conf
[23:59] <superm1> !pastebin | MythbuntuGuest41
[23:59] <ubotu> MythbuntuGuest41: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:59] <tgm4883_laptop> I think there is a bug in the nvidia driver