/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/10/28/#ubuntu-ops.txt

yook00:00
yofine00:00
yowtf did i do00:00
PriceChildyo, you were ban evading.00:00
yoi wasnt ban evading00:00
yoi conencted to the internet00:00
yoopened xchat00:00
yothe channels popped up00:01
PriceChildOk so why did you change nick and try to connect again?00:01
PriceChild(and succeed because of my low irc foo)00:01
yoyoure what?00:01
yoyour*00:01
Tm_Thttp://birdhouse.org/~mnep/unagi.txt00:02
yowhy is everyone so damn ban happy00:02
Tm_Toooh its gone00:02
yoi didnt do anything00:02
yoi asked a simple question00:02
yowasnt causing any problems00:02
yowasnt planning on causing any problems00:02
PriceChildTm_T, I have it saved 8-)00:02
Tm_TPriceChild: good00:02
PriceChildyo, you want to join #ubuntu because of support right?00:02
yo.....yea......00:02
PriceChildbecause you need help?00:02
Tm_TPriceChild: I can grep his doings there too00:03
PriceChildRight well you should have anticipated that before trolling #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic and your attitude to me in pm last night.00:03
yogreat00:03
yoi trolled00:03
yoi gave you attitude00:03
yoits over00:03
PriceChildOr am I wrong again?00:03
Tm_Tnope00:03
yowhy do you have to string it out like this00:03
yoi didnt do anything00:03
PriceChildAre we all wrong again and you're right? :)00:03
yowhat do you want me to say00:03
yothat you are a psychic and know what i was thinking?00:03
yono00:03
yoim not going to say that00:03
yoim going to say you are misunderstood00:04
yoand that you dont give a crap00:04
yoim sorry you cant handle that you are wrong about me00:04
yobut i didnt do a fucking thing wrong00:04
yoand its getting really annoying00:04
PriceChildWatch the language please.00:04
yowell what do you expect00:04
yoyoure driving me insane00:04
yoi did nothing wrong00:04
yoi was respectful00:04
yoasked a simple question00:04
yoand bam i get banned again00:04
yofor nothing00:04
yowhat a shock00:04
Tm_Tyou were ban evading00:04
yoand you expect me to not be angry?00:04
yoso thats why i was banned00:05
yofor ban evading00:05
yoWRONG!00:05
yoi dont consider opening x chat ban evading00:05
PriceChildAfter seemingly wasting all that time on you last night, trying to talk and sort out the situation, I don't expect much more tbh.00:05
PriceChildyo, You knew exactly what you were doing by changing nicks.00:05
yook....lets get on the same page again00:05
yosince you cant seem to follow me00:05
yowhen i changed nicks i was getting around the ban00:06
yoyes00:06
yoi admit that00:06
yothere00:06
yoi admit it00:06
yobut im not talking about that00:06
yofollow me00:06
yoready?00:06
yohere we go00:06
yothe first ban00:06
yothats what im talking about00:06
yoare we on the same page?00:06
yoor are you going of on a tangent again00:06
yofirst ban00:06
yothe first one00:06
yothe one you did00:06
yothat ban00:06
yoyea00:06
Garynot really, as you post so much it scrolls off00:06
gnomefreakcan we try full sentences please00:06
PriceChild!enter | yo00:06
Ubotwoyo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:06
gnomefreakty00:07
* gnomefreak is spectator finally ;)00:07
PriceChildNow yo. You have been banned for several offences, and then been rebanned after evading said bans.00:07
Tm_Tand gained to be in my hilight00:07
PriceChildyo, I spoke with you for an hour or so last night about the issue, but seemed we could not agree on any compromise.00:07
PriceChildyo, In our channels you do not get free speech as you wish. We do not condone behaviour or language that may make others feel uncomfortable in our channels. Whether you think there is anything wrong or not with what you said isn't the point... it could and was seen very differently to how you may or may not have wanted. That single issue though was not the cause for all this trouble. Your persistent attitude, op-00:09
PriceChildflaming and ban evading have got us where we are now.00:09
PriceChildare you trying to get around the mute?00:10
PriceChildannoyed, In our channels you do not get free speech as you wish. We do not condone behaviour or language that may make others feel uncomfortable in our channels. Whether you think there is anything wrong or not with what you said isn't the point... it could and was seen very differently to how you may or may not have wanted. That single issue though was not the cause for all this trouble. Your persistent attitude00:10
PriceChild, op-flaming and ban evading have got us where we are now.00:10
PriceChildannoyed, I would strongly suggest that when I remove this mute, you calm down, refrain from accusing or threatening us, read "/msg ubotwo guidelines", and then come back later when you have regained your exposure if you would like to discuss it.00:11
PriceChildexposure? gah composure00:11
annoyedi was compromising00:12
annoyedi told you that i felt bashed, attacked, misunderstood, and i dont deal well with confrontations00:12
annoyedi did nothing wrong today00:12
PriceChildYou ban evaded.00:13
PriceChildtwice00:13
annoyedonce again00:13
PriceChildyou've admitted so above00:13
annoyedlet us forget the nick changing00:13
annoyedim talking about the first time you banned me00:13
annoyedi did nothing wrong00:13
gnomefreakhe was getting annoying00:13
PriceChildhow ironic00:13
annoyedwhat did i do now00:13
annoyedwhat is it you want me to say00:14
annoyedbecause i refuse to let anyone tell me what i was thinking that day00:14
gnomefreak19:13 -!- annoyed [n=unagi@udp009716uds.hawaiiantel.net] has left #ubuntu-ops  [requested by PriceChild: "I'm not discussing this"]00:14
PriceChildannoyed, I've told you what you've done wrong, why we have banned you. I've given you suggestions on what you should do to help yourself and I am completely fed up with you constantly denying everything.00:14
gnomefreakannoyed: by the looks of it he wants it to stop00:15
annoyedim fed up with no one listening and banning instead00:15
annoyedwants what to stop?00:15
annoyedi did nothing wrong!00:15
annoyedi asked a question in #ubuntu00:15
annoyedi didnt know that was against the rules00:15
gnomefreakyou are fighting something that you admitted to and it is over.00:15
PriceChild*points* there!!!! he did it again!!!! he denied everything!00:15
annoyedi believe im being misunderstood00:15
gnomefreakPriceChild: do we ahve a bt on the first ban?00:15
annoyedagain00:15
* gnomefreak finds it hard to belive it was "just a question"00:16
annoyedbrb00:16
gnomefreak@btlogin\00:16
gnomefreak@btlogin00:16
PriceChildgnomefreak, i think me, mnepto.k, elk.buntu, lj.l and a few others were all happy with it00:16
Tm_Tyes00:16
annoyed<mrunagi> how can i rename a random named set of .JPG to .jpg00:16
gnomefreakim not deniing it at all00:16
PriceChildannoyed, you were ban evading, there was nothing wrong with your question.00:16
PriceChildannoyed, please, PriceChild> annoyed, I've told you what you've done wrong, why we have banned you. I've given you suggestions on what you should do to help yourself and I am completely fed up with you constantly denying everything.00:17
annoyedso you banned me the first time today for ban evading?00:17
gnomefreakdamn bots dead still00:17
PriceChildgnomefreak, your cookies should still be good00:17
gnomefreakthats if i didnt clean them00:17
Tm_Theh00:17
annoyedwhen you banned me the first time today was for ban evading?00:17
PriceChild"today" could mean anything +-24 hours00:18
annoyedwithin the past hour00:18
PriceChildyeah that was for ban evading00:18
annoyedyea00:18
annoyedi didnt ban evade00:18
Tm_Thum, how about ban just being against the rules?00:18
annoyedwhat?00:18
PriceChildIf I remove you again you're going to come back again aren't you :/ I don't like banning people from here :(00:19
Tm_Tas far I have understood, you dont agree all the rules00:19
annoyedno i do agree on the rules00:19
annoyedand i want to follow the rules00:19
annoyedthe point is plain and simple that the original ban was unjust and a misunderstanding00:19
annoyedmy comment was misunderstood and i was banned for trying to explain00:19
Tm_Tannoyed: krhm, ban evading is always ban evading00:20
PriceChildNo you weren't annoyed.00:20
Seeker`annoyed: You may not have intentionally ban evaded, but if you join the channel while you are supposed to be banned, it is still ban evasion00:20
PriceChildannoyed, you were banned for a lot more than the comment.00:20
annoyedyou can try to tell me what my intentions were PriceChild but im sorry that you dont know what i was thinking00:20
PriceChildSeeker`, he intentionally evaded and has admitted to it above.00:20
* Seeker` missed that00:20
annoyedmy god00:20
annoyedthis is really annoying00:20
PriceChildI'll find that line for you where you admitted to it...00:21
Tm_Tnoo :(00:21
gnomefreakgood timing my g/f just said it was over about something else00:21
Tm_Tgnomefreak: wha?00:21
Tm_Tno0tic: no youre not00:21
PriceChildno0tic, can I help you?00:21
Seeker`no0tic: how may we help you?00:21
gnomefreakhe banned annoyed at same time g/f said its over00:22
stdinno0tic: can we help you? ;)00:22
gnomefreakoh hell why doesnt everyone ask00:22
PriceChild<yo> when i changed nicks i was getting around the ban00:22
PriceChild<yo> yes00:22
PriceChild<yo> i admit that00:22
PriceChild<yo> there00:22
PriceChild<yo> i admit it00:22
Tm_T:(00:22
Tm_Tnooooo00:22
PriceChildI'm not spending another good hour on him tonight.00:23
gnomefreakPriceChild: i dont blame you00:23
jribno0tic: hi00:23
PriceChildhe's trying another nick already...00:23
no0tichi all00:23
gnomefreaklol00:23
Tm_Tno0tic: see topic00:23
gnomefreakhi no0tic 00:23
PriceChildTm_T, :)00:23
jribno0tic is an it op00:23
no0ticok I'll do00:23
* no0tic is an -it op :)00:23
PriceChildjrib, we all know :)00:23
gnomefreakit as i n -it00:23
* gnomefreak didnt know00:23
Seeker`has he not been added to the access list yet00:24
PriceChildgnomefreak, really?00:24
jribhe must have an alias for it already00:24
Seeker`gnomefreak: you do now :)00:24
no0ticwe'll I subscribed to next CC agenda to become ubuntu member00:24
gnomefreakPriceChild: yeah ive been really tied up in other crap to be here much00:24
Tm_Theh00:24
PriceChildWe've had this joke going a few days where we still ask if we can help him, who are you etc.00:24
no0tic*well :)00:24
Seeker`no0tic: AFAIK, you dont need to be a member to have +v00:25
Seeker`do you?00:25
jribis there a reason for not voicing him?00:25
Tm_TSeeker`: nope00:25
stdinno0tic: how's that perl script coming? :p00:25
PriceChildSeeker`, member of the ubuntu-irc team is meant to be it...00:25
Tm_Tyes00:25
PriceChildI don't think that strictly holds though.00:25
no0ticstdin, I'm learning perl to do that..00:25
jribor do we just want to keep the joke going? :)00:25
Tm_Tjrib: ssssshhh00:25
* gnomefreak gave up perl for the most part "thank god"00:25
Tm_Tdont blow it00:25
no0ticSeeker`, I'd like to become a mamber anyway :)00:25
gnomefreakgave up learning perl that is00:25
no0ticSeeker`, *member00:26
GaryPriceChild, you have more patience than I do00:26
Seeker`PriceChild: is there a process to join the ubuntu-irc team? I just clicked "join this team" on launchpad and someone approved me00:26
Tm_TSeeker`: thats the process =)00:26
PriceChildSeeker`, I guess its council approval....00:26
Garyno one approved me :'(00:26
Seeker`fair enough00:26
PriceChildSeeker`, the team isn't really defined etc.00:26
Tm_TPriceChild: it is now days?00:26
Tm_Toh right, we have council00:27
* Tm_T keeps forgetting that00:27
PriceChildhehe00:27
no0ticTm_T, when will it be?00:27
Tm_Twhat will?00:28
Tm_Tcouncil? no idea00:29
Tm_Tits not in fridge calendar00:29
Tm_Tshame00:30
PriceChildWe haven't scheduled a next meeting.00:30
PriceChildWe should do.00:30
* gnomefreak thought people were in council than find out they are not :(00:30
PriceChildgnomefreak, who?00:30
Seeker`who is on the council?00:30
PriceChildsorry Seeker` didn't see earlier message00:31
gnomefreakiirc its hobbsee or elky i think hobbsee00:31
PriceChildme, elkbunt.u, nal.ioth, lj.l, seve.as00:31
gnomefreakyeah what happened to hobbsee?00:31
PriceChildThis DID go through the ubuntu-irc ML and several announcements in here.00:31
PriceChildShe didn't want to do it gnomefreak.00:31
gnomefreakshe was voted and accepted00:31
gnomefreakah ok00:31
Garyanyways it is my bedtime, night all00:32
gnomefreaknight00:32
PriceChildsee you Gary 00:32
Seeker`nn gnomefreak 00:32
Seeker`*garu00:32
Seeker`dont forget about the clocks changing00:32
Garylol00:32
Seeker`woo for an extra hour in bed00:33
gnomefreakdoes it cost money to use VoIP and how is it billed to pc bill or phone bill?00:38
Tm_T?00:39
gnomefreaklike to make a call using skype00:39
gnomefreakis it free?00:39
Tm_Tyes00:39
Tm_Tif its voip-voip00:40
Seeker`gnomefreak: to other VOIP users, usually yes00:40
Seeker`VOIP - landline usually incurrs some cost00:40
gnomefreakah ok than i need to find out how this UDS is gonna run if they even offer it here00:40
gnomefreak- here + this time00:40
PriceChildgah unagi's drawn me into a convo again00:41
jdongPriceChild: don't waste your time00:41
Seeker`PriceChild: /wc?00:41
Tm_TPriceChild: tell him to talk to me00:42
PriceChildWhat kind of person do you think he is?00:42
gnomefreaktell him to get bent00:42
Tm_TPriceChild: tell him to talk to me00:42
PriceChildhaha00:42
jdongPriceChild: tell him there's this hot asian kid trying out the whole heteroflexible thing and would love to exchange dirty pics with him if he continues00:43
jdongthat'll probably stop him.00:43
PriceChildshh now jdong :)00:43
* gnomefreak wonders if ther eis a guide to building packages for windows on linux or windows00:44
gnomefreakbrb searching ;(00:44
PriceChildHope you all have a great day tomorrow.00:56
gnomefreakPriceChild: you too :)00:57
Tm_Tbtw unagi is now ubuntu_lord01:20
gnomefreakyep hes in -bugs01:25
Tm_Tand in #kubuntu and in #ubuntu-fi 01:25
gnomefreakah01:25
gnomefreakhe should know to use one of the image apps to rename it mv will rename it but it wont change the content01:26
tonyyarussojrib: o rly?01:28
jribtonyyarusso: yep01:28
tonyyarussojrib: For Gutsy Final?  I saw there was a fix for one of the tribes, but then that it no longer worked in the beta, and that's about where I stopped reading.01:28
gnomefreakthe clocks change tonight?01:28
Tm_Tgnomefreak: here atleast01:29
Tm_T0327 <ubuntu_lord> i dont want to cause any problems and never did01:29
Tm_T0328 <ubuntu_lord> i have always loved the ubuntu community but this whole ordeal is enough for me to reformat my drive and switch to another flavor of linux01:29
jribtonyyarusso: yeah, I read through it all because I really wanted my TTYs01:29
tonyyarussognomefreak: I think so?01:29
gnomefreakill check01:29
tonyyarussojrib: Any particular comment to look at to get the real answer?01:29
tonyyarussoie, which fix worked, out of the dozens of responses?01:29
jribtonyyarusso: can't remember which one it was01:30
tonyyarussojrib: Aww... so you're going to make me backup my intramfs and test things anyway?01:30
gnomefreakniv. 4th here01:30
PiciFor the US: In 2007, daylight saving time (DST) was extended in the United States. DST started on March 11, 2007, which was three weeks earlier than usual, and it will end on November 4, 2007, which is one week later than usual (more details on the new DST start and end times can be found here). This results in a new DST period that is four weeks longer than in previous years.01:31
gnomefreaks/niv/nov01:31
jribtonyyarusso: well, just try what worked for me01:31
tonyyarussojrib: Oh, you remember that?  Sure - summary?01:31
elkbuntuTm_T, well good luck to him then01:31
Tm_Telkbuntu: I always have good luck01:31
* Pici goes back to lurking around01:31
elkbuntui mean to unagi01:31
jribtonyyarusso: ah, I didn't hilight you, but it is at the same time I said "done".  If you don't have the message, let me know and I'll check my scrollback01:32
jrib"#  blacklist vesafb" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer and "vesafb\nfbcon" (\n is an actual newline) in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and lastly, sudo update-initramfs -u01:32
jribtonyyarusso: ^01:32
tonyyarussojrib: Ah - I have the timestamp too :)01:32
tonyyarussojrib: you mean remove the # in the blacklist or add it?01:33
jribtonyyarusso: add it01:33
jribtonyyarusso: "blacklist vesafb" --> "#  blacklist vesafb"01:34
* tonyyarusso looks01:35
tonyyarussojrib: Ah, I get it now.01:35
tonyyarussojrib: Would I want to enable radeonfb or just use vesafb?01:36
Tm_Telkbuntu: he's coming monday asking nicely if he can join #ubuntu01:38
Tm_Tor so he promised01:39
gnomefreakinso: something we can help you with tonight?01:41
Tm_This realname :(01:41
gnomefreakTm_T: i know but didnt know if he was forwarded here01:42
Tm_Tgnomefreak: me neither01:42
Tm_T0341 <ubuntu_lord> ok have a great day01:43
Tm_Thah, I taimed him!01:43
elkbuntuTm_T, not necessarily...01:43
gnomefreakinso: can we help you?01:43
Tm_Telkbuntu: oh I did, for this moment atleast =)01:43
Tm_Telkbuntu: cant talk about future :(01:43
elkbuntuheh01:43
Picignomefreak: realname & ident01:44
gnomefreakPici: that was very easy but i asked HIM01:45
Picik ;)01:45
gnomefreakwas he +f'ed here?01:45
gnomefreakor just joined01:45
* gnomefreak goes to bed night all01:47
elkbuntudunno. *nigger*@* is d banned from #ubuntu, and it's the same guy the ban was applied to. chanserv autobanned him, i upgraded it to a +d01:47
elkbuntuniggerin is truncated version of niggerinabox, btw01:48
jdongno0tic: can we help you?01:48
gnomefreakelkbuntu: than i leave it to you since your up and im heading to bed ;)01:48
jdong;-)\01:48
Tm_Tno0tic: see topic01:49
no0tic:D mozilla-mplayer keeps crashing X01:49
jdonglol until no0tic gets his +v we'll continue messing with him01:49
elkbuntuTm_T, no0tic is an -it op01:50
Tm_Telkbuntu: I know01:50
no0ticelkbuntu, I think everybody knows :)01:50
Tm_Tour way to expression of caring01:51
Tm_Tno0tic <301:51
no0ticI'm a bit scared01:51
Tm_Twell that one poor sentence01:51
Tm_Ts01:52
Tm_Tgnomefreak: heheh01:53
tonyyarussoWe should have ubotu set up to do heralds in here, so when no0tic joins ubotu can say "no0tic is an op on #ubuntu-it"01:54
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: and miss all fun?01:54
no0tictonyyarusso, lol :) it could do so with every -XX op around :)01:54
Tm_Tcheck access lists and inform after it01:54
tonyyarussoTm_T: of course; didn't you get the memo?  There's no fun here.01:55
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: sorry, I slept over morning briefing01:55
tonyyarussomeh, checking access lists would be more complicated than manually configuring per nick, which is how the forum plugin works.01:55
no0ticjdong, just to be precise.. I don't want +v here.. You want me to have one! :)01:55
Tm_T:(01:55
tonyyarussos/forum/herald/....not sure where that came from01:55
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: both works01:55
=== rob1 is now known as rob
Tm_Thmm02:25
no0ticsplit!02:27
jdongumm... is it normal for a netsplit to last this long?02:41
jdongwell this sucks... nickserv is not on this end of the split....02:44
Tm_Tnice02:44
jdongI feel like one of those nuclear holocaust survivors02:44
jdongthe world is empty02:44
jdonglol02:44
Tm_T:(02:45
jdongaah http://freenode.org/ is down!02:45
jdongthe world is ending!02:45
Tm_Thrrrr02:47
Tm_TI cant get op rights02:47
jdongTm_T: I'm pretty sure chanserv is knocked out too02:47
jdongon our side of the split02:47
Tm_Tyes02:47
no0ticyes02:48
Tm_Tthats exactly my problem02:48
jdonghas freenode been really split-happy recently?02:48
Tm_Tnope02:48
no0ticno02:48
Tm_Tjust this one02:48
jdongmy logs show we've netsplit like 4 times the past 2 days02:49
jdongof course most of the times only 1 or 2 people left02:49
jdonglooks like it's not over; irssi just recorded another split...02:50
LadiesMan217yeah, this is odd02:50
jdongLadiesMan217: nice nick?02:50
jdongpfft and he leaves on me02:50
jdong22:50 < KingPython> but from support channel ,they said me you must to ask this  question to developer chanel02:51
jdongheh. and of course, not in my logs02:51
jdongI doubt the netsplit is to blame02:51
jdongwhoo02:53
Tm_Tchanserv up02:55
jdongwhoo02:56
jdongshields up, weapons online.02:56
no0ticeheh02:56
Tm_Tno its not02:57
jdongit's working for me...02:57
Tm_Tok its up03:05
Tm_Tstill didnt get hat on #kubuntu 03:06
Tm_Tfinally!03:07
* Tm_T is waiting for some information about this happening03:09
* jdong too03:09
naliothTm_T: i've told you before, "don't unplug your computer"03:09
Vorianlol03:10
jdongnalioth probably tried another torrent with KTorrent ;-)03:10
Tm_T!ping03:11
Ubotwopong03:11
=== ubot3_ is now known as ubot3
Tm_T!test03:14
UbotwoFailed.03:14
naliothwhy are there two bots here?03:14
naliother, never mind03:15
naliothTm_T is tricking me again03:15
Tm_TI am not03:15
UbotwoJ-_ called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic03:27
J-_How did I abuse the system?03:29
Tm_TI didnt notice any real reason to call ops03:29
J-_well, whatever - I thought the channel was suppose to be family-friendly?03:31
Tm_Tyes, true03:31
J-_I don't think that was family friendly03:31
Tm_TI dont even know what that did mean03:31
J-_The logs will say what was discussed.03:32
J-_Or are there not any logs?03:33
jdongTm_T: some of the innuendos were a bit over the top03:35
Tm_Tjdong: I see03:38
jdongmaybe not enough to call ops...03:38
jdongbut still more vulgar than even I'd want to see03:38
naliothoverlords and kittens03:39
* jdong goes back to his backup ritual03:40
Hobbseegnomefre1k: ?03:40
* Hobbsee is not on the council.03:41
Tm_T:)03:41
popeymoo03:43
Tm_Tpoo03:43
popeyfoo03:43
Hobbseehiya popey!03:43
Hobbseewhat are you doing up?03:43
popeyyo!03:43
popeyjust got back from a bar03:43
popeybeen out drinking with jono and his bitches03:44
Tm_T:(03:44
popeyfeel the irony03:44
no0ticgoodnight03:44
Tm_T:((03:46
* elkbuntu whimpers that she's missing the uds fun :(04:01
Hobbseeyeah :(04:02
Hobbseeit sucks04:02
* Tm_T always miss uds fun04:02
* elkbuntu cries on Hobbsee's shoulder04:05
* elkbuntu returns to cleaning the flat04:05
Tm_Telkbuntu: have fun, I'm doing that third day in a row now or so04:05
* Hobbsee cuddles elkbuntu04:06
mneptokUDS what-now? :/04:09
Hobbseemneptok: please kill kmos, btw04:10
mneptokwhowha?04:11
* mneptok /lastlogs04:11
Hobbseemneptok: #ubuntu-devel04:12
Hobbseeread the entire thing04:12
mneptokwell, i want to do some other stuff this weekend04:13
Hobbseejust the part from the first kmos reference to the last04:14
elkbuntuHobbsee, he still hasnt a clue in the world?04:32
Hobbseeelkbuntu: no, it gets far better than that.04:34
Hobbseeelkbuntu: he doesnt believe he should have to learn to do things right, as he's only a user trying to help, and he's nto trying to become a MOTU.04:34
Madpilotsomeone trying packaging and failing?05:04
Tm_T:(05:04
mneptokhttp://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phases/moon_phases.phtml05:09
mneptokcoulda guessed.05:09
Madpilotmneptok, there's a Gnome panel app that has moon info05:10
MadpilotI run it because it shows UTC05:11
Tm_Tyoman_43: how cool you are?05:23
naliothya know, it's nice having an OS that has uptime measured in months/years.  Does anyone know a graphical browser that can go months/years w/o flaking?05:41
Tm_Thmm, Konqueror without flash/java =05:41
Tm_T?05:41
jdongnalioth: konqueror05:41
naliothjdong: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz05:44
naliothit fails.05:44
jdongseriously?05:44
jdongit's the most long-term stable browser for me....05:44
jdongfirefox needs to be kicked every day or two05:45
* nalioth hasn't used firefox in years05:46
naliothgaleon only goes a couple of weeks05:46
jdonggaleon's still actively developed?05:46
Tm_TI dont have same build of Konqueror longer than some days =)05:46
naliothjdong: um, yes.05:47
jdongnalioth: didn't know that... the last time I heard from them was like a year ago, and they were intending on writing extensions to epiphany and fuse together05:48
Jordan_UWhatever rss feed ubotu/two/3 uses for package info is down05:56
Jordan_Uubot3 info ubuntu-desktop05:56
ubot3ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.79 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 48 kB05:56
Jordan_UOr not :)05:56
Jordan_UStrange, it seems it just doesn't work in a private message05:57
ubot3In #ubuntu, rom10 said: UBot3 What is the reason for getting Error 104 when I run startx06:16
Madpilotthe bots are being strange06:28
Madpilotneither ubot3 nor Ubotwo are processing "info" or "find" commands properly06:29
Madpilotubot3, info gedit06:29
ubot3gedit: official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 824 kB, installed size 2896 kB06:29
MadpilotJordan_U, same bug as you just ran into - didn't notice your comment06:29
MadpilotUbotwo, find gedit06:29
UbotwoMadpilot: Error: "find" is not a valid command.06:29
Madpilotthere we go ^^^06:29
Madpilotnot just in PM, then06:30
Madpilotubot3, find gedit06:30
ubot3Found: gedit-plugins, moaggedit, gedit, gedit-common, gedit-dev06:30
Jordan_UMadpilot, ubot3 works in channels but not PM, ubotwo works in PM ( with error ) and not in channels :)06:31
Madpilotwell, between the pair of them they've got everything covered, at least  :|06:32
Madpilotfun06:32
FujitsuIs Seveas not contactable at the moment?06:32
Madpilot@now amsterdam06:34
Madpilotmeh, that's busted too. 06:34
Madpilotit's early Sunday morning his timezone06:35
Tm_TMadpilot: hug me06:35
FujitsuIt has been gone for a while now, though.06:35
Madpilothmm?06:35
Tm_T063506:35
jdongok, I'm tired, bed.07:12
Tm_Tjdong: nighty night07:13
jdongsomeone deal with computer123 in -offtopic07:15
jdongjoined, spammed a youtube link, bugs everyone to go see it07:15
jdong*sigh* for the sake of my health I'm looking away from that channel07:16
jdongit somehow reminds me of an AOL chat room07:16
Tm_Tjdong: GO 07:16
Tm_Tyou need sleep anyway07:16
jdong:) nighty night07:16
Tm_T:))07:17
Tm_Twell that was polite07:26
Tm_Tpretty please + request07:27
Moniker42how would i undo a lart (from seveas' chanserv script) without using the chanserv script?08:28
Tm_Tlart?08:29
Moniker42iirc the /cs L nick command combines several bans...08:29
Tm_TI see08:29
Moniker42and the /cs u nick command combines a few unbans too :P08:30
ompaulreapply one at a time to the ip or name or whatever08:32
ompaulor /cs u a full part of the ban not the nick08:32
=== jussi01 is now known as jussio1
=== jussio1 is now known as jussi01
Hobbseeooo!11:35
Hobbseeanyone else seen today's deb-a-dday yet?11:35
elkbuntuno?11:38
ompauluptime | cowthink -d11:38
ompaulhehehehe11:38
Hobbsee __________________________________11:39
Hobbsee< Now who can i set on fire today? >11:39
Hobbsee ----------------------------------11:39
Hobbsee      \                    / \  //\11:39
Hobbsee       \    |\___/|      /   \//  \\11:39
Hobbsee            /0  0  \__  /    //  | \ \    11:39
Hobbsee           /     /  \/_/    //   |  \  \  11:39
Hobbsee           @_^_@'/   \/_   //    |   \   \ 11:39
Hobbsee           //_^_/     \/_ //     |    \    \11:39
ompaul:)11:39
Hobbsee        ( //) |        \///      |     \     \11:39
Hobbsee      ( / /) _|_ /   )  //       |      \     _\11:39
Hobbsee    ( // /) '/,_ _ _/  ( ; -.    |    _ _\.-~        .-~~~^-.11:39
Hobbsee  (( / / )) ,-{        _      `-.|.-~-.           .~         `.11:39
Hobbsee (( // / ))  '/\      /                 ~-. _ .-~      .-~^-.  \11:39
Hobbsee (( /// ))      `.   {            }                   /      \  \11:39
Hobbsee  (( / ))     .----~-.\        \-'                 .~         \  `. \^-.11:39
Hobbsee             ///.----..>        \             _ -~             `.  ^-`  ^-_11:39
Hobbsee               ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~                     ~-- ,.-~11:39
elkbuntulol11:39
Hobbsee                                                                  /.-~11:39
jribugh every day I meet new people in #ubuntu who make me want to help in #ubuntu less and less12:04
Tm_T:(12:04
ompauljrib, then take a break and don't burn out 12:05
ompaul:)12:05
jussi01grrr12:08
jussi01I have my client set to auto identify, but still, I join channels with: [14:07] --> You have joined the channel #ubuntu-ops (n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-129.psoas.suomi.net).12:08
jussi01anyone know hw to make my cloak come, not the ip etc?12:08
PriceChildjussi01, are you using xchat?12:09
PriceChildI don't use xchat's functions for auto identify, channel joins etc.12:09
jussi01PriceChild: no. Konversation12:09
PriceChildmeh i'm sure the same still applies12:09
PriceChildI tell xchat when it connects to freenode, to run .xchat/autojoin, which then identifys me, messages chanserv to invite me to +i channels, then joins me to everything.12:10
PriceChildIn that order.12:10
jussi01oh..12:10
Hobbseejussi01: /msg nickserv identify foobar in the server window12:12
jussi01Hobbsee: yeah. Im identified. butwhen I start knoversation, it joins channels before it identifies me...12:13
Hobbseei know.12:13
Hobbseeoh, sorry, stick in the freenode p/w in the p/w window on the server thing12:13
PriceChildjrib, how long have you been an operator here? What channels are you in?12:14
PriceChildhmmm #ubuntu at least12:15
PriceChildping LjL nalioth you guys happy with me accepting jrib's launchpad application... seen as he's been an op forever? :)12:15
jribPriceChild: around march/april12:16
PriceChildoh and elkbuntu ^12:16
PriceChild*didn't scroll up enough on user list*12:16
Amaranthjussi01: put in your nickserv password for the server password12:18
Amaranthjussi01: you'll connect identified12:19
Amaranthoh, Hobbsee already said that12:19
* jussi01 hugs Hobbsee and Amaranth12:23
Hobbsee:)12:23
elkbuntuHobbsee, mind backing me up in -offtopic?12:31
elkbuntuor Amaranth, or anyone around who can12:32
Hobbseei'm not in there12:33
elkbuntujust removed malv12:33
PriceChildlooks12:33
elkbuntuPriceChild, eugenics, nazi schemes and brave new world on crack kinda discussion12:34
PriceChildmeh, you warned them12:34
elkbuntuyeah, several times12:35
Jucatohm... ubotu's on leave?12:38
elkbuntuJucato, seveas is MIA12:38
Jucatooh.... :(12:39
* Jucato hopes he's ok12:39
PriceChildDoes anyone know if he's going to UDS?12:39
elkbuntuPriceChild, dunno. if he was i would assume he'd be there and have connected by now12:40
ompaulhe not going from the attendance sheet12:40
PriceChildI'm sure he'll be back soon :)12:40
elkbuntuoooh... thunder and rain getting loud12:43
PriceChildelkbuntu, you ok with adding jrib to ubuntu-irc on launchpad?12:46
ompaulI am 12:46
elkbuntuPriceChild, he's not there already?12:46
ompaulbut who am I :)12:46
PriceChildelkbuntu, I was surprised too :)12:46
PriceChildompaul, you know how it is, I'd rather a majority agreement of the council before doing something the "council" does. :)12:53
jussi01someone call Dennis :P !12:54
elkbuntujussi01, we need to find out wtf is up with him anyway12:54
PriceChildmeh stop worrying people12:54
PriceChild*is not going to grep logs for his phone number*12:55
jussi01elkbuntu: he has posted his phone no online...12:55
jussi01+31 252 353 4612:55
PriceChildjussi01, seriously... he's been gone a couple of days... big deal :)12:55
PriceChildNot a reason to be posting his number in a publically logged channel.12:55
jussi01PriceChild: we are publicly logged in here?12:55
* jussi01 blushes12:56
jussi01crap... didnt see the log  bot..12:56
* jussi01 sighs... me and my big mouth...12:58
ompaulPriceChild, I sent you a pm12:59
ompauljussi01, yes it happened around jan after someone and me had a disagreement, it is said that if you travel into space far enough you can still hear the door slam 13:00
elkbuntugaaah, awalton is a regular lunatic13:03
ompaulna he biggin it up13:05
elkbuntueh?13:05
elkbuntutranslate please, homie?13:05
PriceChildinnit13:06
Dave2innit.d13:06
ompaulPriceChild, :)13:07
ompaulplaying to the crowd methinks13:07
elkbuntu"(unless related to software licencing)" is basically what we're discussing, ompaul 13:11
ompaulahh 13:12
ompaulso i suppose then he is wrong13:12
ompaulit is anarchy 13:12
elkbuntuyeah, i know it's anarchy, but it's technically not o4o13:12
elkbuntuwhat amuses me is that most people confuse plagiarism with copyright infringement. the former is far more destructive than breaking a law13:13
elkbuntuhow the heck does mjr survive in the real world?13:16
elkbuntuompaul, you may need to intervene, since i think if i try, i will only implode the world13:17
PriceChild*waves*13:24
PriceChildHow can I help mjr?13:25
mjrActually I came to hang and see what kind of people and policies there are around the channels, for comparison studies. (I am the owner of -fi, incidentally.)13:27
PriceChildompaul, in a skirt....... hmm13:27
PriceChild!guidelines | mjr 13:27
Ubotwomjr: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:27
PriceChildmjr, those are the guidelines that we ask users to follow.13:28
PriceChildhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines are the operator guidelines surprisingly enough13:28
mjrindeed, though the interpretation often seems funny at best, arbitrary at worst (though also, the strictness of the rules would make their consistent application counterproductive)13:29
PriceChildmjr, the guidelines were purposefully written as guidelines, and so several parts are open to interpretation such as the definition of trolling.13:31
PriceChildmjr, We make decisions on a case by case basis.13:31
mjrindeed13:32
PriceChildIf anyone believes that an something has happenned which shouldn't have, then they are more than welcome to /join here and discuss the situation in a calm manner.13:32
elkbuntuemphasis on 'calm'13:33
PriceChildFor the recent activities in -offtopic, several users were given several warnings.13:34
PriceChildRight I'm popping off for a bit elkbuntu you staying and watching -offtopic?13:36
elkbuntuoh crap. the bantracker is teh dead13:40
PriceChildelkbuntu, see backup13:41
elkbuntueh?13:41
elkbuntuthere's a backup of it?13:41
jussi01cripes... -offtopic is looking fun atm...13:55
jussi01elkbuntu: I dont know how you deal with that...13:56
elkbuntujussi01, waiting for them to slip up13:56
jussi01elkbuntu: hehe.... 13:56
* jussi01 sighs... some people....14:22
iobeliskhi, for some reason i was banned from the #ubuntu channel, may i ask why?14:23
Tm_Tjussi01: what did he ask?14:23
LjLiobelisk, !ops is not to be used to call the ops' attention on your question. ops are not necessarily even experts on any subject (although we'd like to think they are), they're just ops. !ops is for emergencies.14:23
iobeliskokay, so i did not know that. why not say that instead of banning me?14:23
iobeliskbanning me from the ubuntu channel keeps me away from a lot of useful information, that's pretty harsh man14:23
elkbuntuiobelisk, because a warning only incites every silly person to copy, unfortunately14:23
Tm_Toh, I see14:24
jussi01Tm_T: you missed the fun... -offtopic14:24
LjLiobelisk: because knowing that a factoid called "!ops" exists, and abusing it, generally means you're doing it on purpose.14:24
iobeliskwell, i only came to know of !ops yesterday when i had a question nobody could answer and somebody else called on it on my behalf, and my question was answered. so i figured i'd do the same today because i'd been asking my question around for some time and nobdy was able to help me14:24
LjLiobelisk: i don't think someone called on it on your behalf... i guess someone called it because there was a channel emergency, totally unrelated to your question...14:25
iobeliskno, the person called it as "!ops | iobelisk"14:25
LjLiobelisk: then i guess either *you* were misbehaving, or the person was an idiot14:26
iobeliskand then an op called on me, i asked my question and it actually got answered.14:26
iobeliskoh14:26
Tm_Tiobelisk: 14:26
Tm_T1626 -!- Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage |14:26
Tm_Tiobelisk: did you look channel topic?14:26
iobelisktm_t, i realise i need to be patient, but i've been in there the past two hours almost, answering other peoples questions and hoping somebody would answer mine too. i have looked pretty extensively on the forum and google and have been unable to resolve it over there which is why i came here14:27
iobelisknow, is there a way for me to get back on the ubuntu channel or are you guys going to keep me off of there?14:27
Tm_Tiobelisk: yes, read those links there ;)14:27
Hobbseeand the ops are not the ones who are to be called to answer your wishes.14:27
LjLiobelisk: i'll let you in, hold on a second though14:27
Hobbseewe dont even know everything.14:27
iobeliskwell, banning somebody from the ubuntu channel is acutally a big deal, maybe you should atleast talk to the person before doing so14:28
* Hobbsee suspects you just got forwarded here?14:29
LjLiobelisk: it's a big deal? it's an IRC command that can be undone in a second if wanted.14:29
iobeliskwell, not undone by me. by you. no?14:29
LjLiobelisk: anyway, would you happen to have a log of when somebody called !ops | iobelisk? i'd like to see what happened then14:29
LjLiobelisk: yes, by me. but nobody's saying i won't undo it, i'd just like to make sure that you understand why you shouldn't call !ops like that, and what the channel guidelines are, and that you weren't doing it on purpose14:30
Hobbseeiobelisk: it would be futile to have this discussion in a busy channel like #ubuntu, no?14:30
iobeliskljl, im not sure, it happened yesterday or the day before, that is when i even knew of !ops, and the guy who called it really was not an idiot either, he did try to answer my question, but coud'nt,14:31
iobeliskhobbsee, there is something called private message, yes?14:31
LjLiobelisk: where you called 'iobelisk' yesterday (or when it happened) too? because i cannot find it in my own logs14:31
LjLiobelisk: indeed, nobody stopped you from PM'ing me14:31
iobeliskyes, either iobelisk, or iobelix14:31
LjLah i'll try iobelix14:31
LjLhm still no luck :|14:32
iobeliskdoes konversation keep a log on my computer somewhere, i'll try to look for it if that is the only way i can get back on the channel14:32
LjLiobelisk: i'm not sure if it does by default, but if it does, it's in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/14:32
iobeliskljl, yeah, there are no logs over there.14:33
Hobbseeit does14:34
Hobbseeand ti's nto there anymnore14:34
LjLHobbsee: ?14:34
Hobbseeappears to be at ~/.logs14:34
LjLuh i still have them in the old place14:34
iobeliskok, so am i still banned or what?14:35
LjLthough i suppose that can be because i upgraded from feisty and/or am using SVN14:35
Tm_TLjL: youre old14:35
LjLiobelisk: no, you're not14:35
iobeliskso i can go back in there?14:35
iobeliski'm in there, thanks14:35
iobeliskbye14:35
LjLiobelisk: however, i'd like to make sure that you read the channel guidelines carefully, because if something unconvincing happens again, well14:35
LjL!etiquette > iobelisk    (iobelisk, see the private message from Ubotu)14:35
LjL!guidelines > iobelisk    (iobelisk, see the private message from Ubotu)14:36
LjL!coc > iobelisk    (iobelisk, see the private message from Ubotu)14:36
LjLiobelisk: please make sure you check those out14:36
iobeliskokay i will14:36
iobeliskone question14:36
iobeliskif a channel topic is set, all conversation should be directed within that topic?14:36
Tm_Tdepends on the channel and topic14:37
LjLiobelisk: hm? you mean like, if the channel topic says "Official Ubuntu support channel", you should only ask/reply to Ubuntu support questions - then yes14:37
elkbuntugenerally yes. #ubuntu is for support talk only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for well-behaved and family-friendly non-support talk14:37
iobeliskthanks14:37
Tm_TPriceChild: you around?14:38
LjLi think he's lying14:38
Tm_TLjL: I too14:39
Tm_TLjL: couldnt find it14:39
LjLneither my logs, nor fabbione's, have !ops | iobelanything in the past three days14:39
elkbuntuLjL, scanning my logs now14:41
LjLelkbuntu: could try something like grep -A 20 -B 20 "\!ops" | grep obeli14:41
LjL(which, on my machine, doesn't give anything relevant)14:42
elkbuntui found the section that could have confused him14:43
elkbuntuor at least a section14:44
LjLanyway i still don't know who reverted the changes i had made to !ops (adding something like "USE ONLY IN EMERGENCIES"). whoever did might have had the best of reasons, but i think it'd be better to have something like that in it...14:44
Tm_TLjL: in hwere?14:44
LjLTm_T: in the !ops factoid. last time something like this (i.e. someone claiming they "thought it was just to see who the ops were", or variations of that) happened, i edited the factoid to make it clear that it should only ever be used in emergencies14:45
HobbseeLjL: can we get a bot in #ubuntu-desktop please14:45
LjLHobbsee: please /msg ubotwo register hobbsee password14:45
HobbseeLjL: done14:45
LjLHobbsee: you should be able to ask it to join14:46
HobbseeLjL: thanks!14:46
HobbseeUbotwo: version14:46
UbotwoHobbsee: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1+darcs.  The newest version available online is 0.83.3.14:46
LjLwasn't it muted in this channel?14:46
Hobbseewow, old one :)14:46
Hobbseeapparently not.  oh well14:46
LjL!test14:47
UbotwoFailed.14:47
LjLwell i guess it won't hurt to let it speak until ubotu comes back14:47
Hobbseewhenver that is14:47
LjLHobbsee: it's weird. there was a server split - actually, i think a server death - where few people went down, including both ubotu and ubotwo14:47
LjLubotwo wouldn't rejoin either, it tried to connect to irc.freenode.org but got stuck on trying14:48
UbotwoLjL: Error: "wouldn't" is not a valid command.14:48
Hobbseeouch14:48
elkbuntuheh14:48
LjLone would figure there is a timeout, but..14:48
LjLi joined ubotwo manually to a server that i knew worked, otherwise it'd still be trying to connect to irc.freenode.net i suspect14:48
elkbuntuHobbsee, btw, have they decided on the titles for the alphas yet?14:49
Hobbseeelkbuntu: i think just calling them "alpha foo" etc14:49
elkbuntuo.O14:49
elkbuntuthey could call them siege or sedge or hedge, why 'alpha'? :(14:49
elkbuntua siege of herons sounds pretty damn cool to me14:50
Hobbseebecause people didnt seem to think they had bugs, or something.14:50
elkbuntuoh14:50
elkbuntu:(14:50
gnomefreakHobbsee: you pinged me?14:51
LjLfyi, !info <package> doesn't work (while !find seems to), and to trigger a bug, you need "launchpad bug #number", not just "bug #number"14:51
elkbuntuLjL, check your and fabbiones logs for around 09:50:00 utc14:51
elkbuntu(yesterday)14:52
gnomefreakLjL: like launchpad bug #11111?14:52
UbotwoLaunchpad bug 11111 in kernel-package "Grubs menu.lst gets overwritten every time a kernel update is done" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1111114:52
elkbuntulaunchpad bug 10000014:52
UbotwoLaunchpad bug 100000 in malone "There are still too many bug reports" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10000014:52
elkbuntuhehhee14:52
gnomefreaki guess so (should it do it while talking to someone else?14:52
elkbuntumpt is too funny14:52
LjL:)14:53
elkbuntuLjL, did you find the log section?14:53
LjLgnomefreak: yeah, at least, ubotu does that too14:53
LjLelkbuntu: nope, timestamp please?14:53
gnomefreakit does?14:53
elkbuntu<elkbuntu> LjL, check your and fabbiones logs for around 09:50:00 utc14:54
Hobbseehaha14:54
LjLgnomefreak: think so - though only in certain channels, not in #ubuntu14:54
gnomefreakLjL: right14:54
LjLelkbuntu: oh sorry, missed it14:54
elkbuntuno prob14:54
LjLelkbuntu: 9:50 today? (fabbione's *are* UTC right?)14:56
elkbuntuLjL, yesterday, sorry14:56
gnomefreakLjL: yes14:56
LjLelkbuntu: ehm, i still can find neither !ops nor iobelisk around that time...14:58
elkbuntuLjL, pm me your email address15:01
elkbuntui cant find it in fabbione either, but it's in my logs15:02
LjLweird15:03
LjLmaybe a netsplit?15:03
elkbuntumy thought too15:03
Tm_Telkbuntu: pastebin please :)15:03
LjLfabbione was definitely logging an active channel at 9:5015:03
LjLmy stupid irc proxy doesn't timestamp *dates*, only h/m... bah15:04
jdongLjL: does it at least stamp date changes?15:05
elkbuntuljl sent15:07
LjLjdong: obviously not :) anyway i know my irc proxy sucks in many other ways, i should just get around to setting up something better15:07
elkbuntuLjL, you get it?15:09
ompaulno0tic, how can we help you15:10
* ompaul runs15:10
ompaul:)15:10
* no0tic is an -it op15:10
ompaula bit slow today :)15:10
no0tic:)15:10
jdonghaha15:10
LjLelkbuntu: yep, and i have it in my logs actually, but for 12:50 (which would be 10:50 UTC) rather than 11:50... and it's nowhere to be found in fabbione's15:10
elkbuntuLjL, fsking daylight savings15:11
LjLelkbuntu: yeah but daylight saving would bring me one hour *closer* to UTC... oh well15:11
* ompaul <3 daylight savings I get to say cool stuff like, spring forward, fall back :)15:11
elkbuntuLjL, but it confused me at this end15:11
elkbuntuLjL, but for a confused newbie, i can see how he could have misinterpreted that string of happenings15:12
LjLelkbuntu: yeah, although it doesn't take rocket science to see that someone was spamming and !ops was called because of that... anyway, one more reason IMHO to put a clear warning into the factoid15:12
no0ticthanks! :)15:12
ompaulno0tic, we have to stop the confustion 15:13
Tm_Tno0tic: who are you?15:13
ompaulTm_T, someone with a voice15:13
* ompaul rofl15:13
no0ticTm_T, I'm +v here :P15:13
elkbuntuLjL, yeah. lets do a council vote, email to the list? i'm going to bed15:13
LjLompaul: hi, how may we help you?15:13
elkbuntulawl15:13
ompaulnot in mayny ways15:13
Tm_T:(15:14
* ompaul goes to war on LjL 15:14
jdongisn't it too early in the morning for opwars?15:14
LjLjdong: depends, it's 16:14 here... but then again, i woke up less than 2 hours ago, so i guess yes.15:14
ompauljdong, it is pm here 15:14
* jdong shields his rear and goes back to Starcraft and other asian stereotypes15:14
elkbuntuheh, gnite15:15
ompauljdong, tell what is the irc channel for uds?15:15
no0ticjdong, I woke up now and I'm in LjL's time zone 15:15
LjLouch, you beat me15:15
no0ticjdong, so yes a bit to early15:15
jdongompaul: *shrug*15:15
elkbuntukeep an eye on mao42, and if jimmydee returns, watch him like a hawk, same with gnine15:16
Hobbseeompaul: #fosscamp at the moment, will be #uds-boston15:16
LjLelkbuntu: anyway to me it doesn't sound like something that big to have a vote on the ML for it... i thought i could just go ahead and add the warning to the factoid. i'm just not sure why it was reverted15:17
Tm_TLjL: I agree15:17
elkbuntuLjL, the reversion is why im suggesting we do a ML vote, so then everyone knows to leave it alone15:17
* Hobbsee would suggest just putting it back, and locking it.15:17
elkbuntufine then15:18
elkbuntuanyway, off to bed15:18
LjLelkbuntu: ok, i'll send a note15:18
Tm_Telkbuntu: nighty night15:18
LjLHobbsee: not sure factoids can be locked, or at least not sure how15:18
ompaulwhich one?15:23
ompaulseveas could lock one but then the other bots would need to be told about that change15:23
LjLompaul: !ops, see ML15:24
LjL!ops ~= s/Help!/Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger for emergencies)/15:25
UbotwoLjL: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:25
LjLwhatever15:25
ompaulit is not the right bot you need it upstream15:25
LjLompaul: i know, but upstream has been MIA for days15:26
LjLi'm not forgetting about it anyway15:26
ompaulLjL, I just sent him an sms 15:28
* Hobbsee +1's, with botched email15:29
ompauleasy to ignore if you can15:29
ompaullets see how far he is from the internnet :)15:30
LjLompaul: it's really just a matter of telling it to reconnect - i'm sure it's just still stuck at trying to connect after the last server death15:31
PriceChildTm_T, i'm back15:42
PriceChildLjL, are you ok with accepting jrib into the ubuntu-irc launchpad group?15:42
Hobbseenope :P15:42
* Hobbsee decidse to be stubborn15:42
LjLPriceChild: hm i guess so, he's been an op for a while... i think we simply forgot to add him?15:43
PriceChildHehe yeah15:44
Tm_TPriceChild: any intentions to remove hawaiian ban?15:44
PriceChildhawaiian ban?15:44
PriceChildI'll accept him now.15:45
Tm_T1638 -!- 13 - #ubuntu-ops: ban *!*@udp009716uds.hawaiiantel.net [by PriceChild,15:45
PriceChildWho was that on, unagi?15:45
Tm_Tyes15:45
PriceChildIs he causing trouble elsewhere?15:45
Tm_Tnope15:45
Tm_The promised to me that he will come nicely on monday15:46
PriceChildTm_T, would you like it removed?15:46
Tm_Twell, I would love to see this come to end in peace :))15:46
PriceChildLjL, ah you already accepted cool :)15:46
PriceChildwe can but hope15:47
Tm_Tthanks sit15:47
Tm_Tsir15:47
Tm_Tif he blew this, I will haunt him till his death15:48
LjLPriceChild actually i accepted him couple hours ago ;P16:02
PriceChildhehe yeah16:02
Mezis uds on at the mo ?16:26
* jdong shrugs16:27
ompaulno tomorrow (monday)16:28
PriceChildtomorrow16:33
Mezah, well they're planning on using teamspeak arent they ?16:34
Mezthey shouldnt do - they should use mumble/murmur :D16:34
Mezthe FLOSS teamspeak16:34
mc44teamspeak? really? they used asterisk the last couple of times16:35
* Mez shrugs and points them to mumble16:36
* jdong gonna walk by the hotel to do a bit of food shopping...16:37
Mezjdong, you at UDS?16:37
jdongMez: I live 2 blocks away from the hotel :)16:37
Mezah lol16:37
Mezlucky git16:37
ompauljdong, show popey where franklin st is on a map please ;-)16:38
jdonghaha16:38
jdongerr... good question16:38
jdongit crosses mass ave somewhere, right? :D16:38
ompaulthe one beside the deeeeeep metro station16:39
jdongno wait a minute, it runs parallel to it...16:39
popey:)16:39
popeyit's miles away :)16:39
jdongam I thinking of a different Franklin then?16:40
Mezslappopey for me jdong ;)16:40
jdongpfft figures in New England everything's named after mr. fly-a-kite16:40
ompauljdong,  in the middle of boston 16:40
popeyhttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Franklin+St,+Cambridge,+Middlesex,+Massachusetts+02139,+United+States&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=9.116965,23.203125&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,42.368540,-71.113480&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=116:40
jdongompaul: popey linked me to the one I was thinking of... (in Cambridge)16:41
ompaulpopey, there are two 16:41
ompaulone beside mit 16:42
ompauland one in town16:42
ompaulsorry one beside harvard16:42
ompaulwell one out that way16:42
ompaulhaha16:42
jdonglol aaaanyway.... I'm leaving... why don't you guys be less male and ask for directions? ;-)16:42
jdongompaul: one down by the barn?16:42
ompauljdong, the one I want him to find is in the middle of Boston near the common16:42
ompaulhttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?daddr=Franklin+St,+Cambridge,+MA+02139,+USA&geocode=&dirflg=&saddr=&f=d&hl=en&sll=42.366709,-71.106026&sspn=0.006595,0.014591&ie=UTF8&ll=42.355325,-71.05912&spn=0.006596,0.014591&z=16&om=116:45
ompaulthat franklin st16:45
ompaulpopey, ^^ thats the one :)16:48
ompaulpopey, I just had the visitor general confirm it - and they are on the Downtown Crossing metro station16:49
Tm_Thumm17:01
Tm_Tam I only one noticing lots of bots behind tor proxy just idling in random channels?17:01
Tm_TI assume they're bots because of idling and being on random channels17:01
ompaulwell no they could be gone for sunday lunch or some such17:02
ompaulif you are really concerned do a /stats p and suggest the pattern you see to that person 17:02
Tm_Theh17:03
ompaulor do /cs access #freenode list and track down some of the helpers who can ping staff in a round about way17:03
Tm_Tyu17:03
* ompaul wanders off to fill in his conspiracy of the day form :)17:03
Tm_T:p17:04
ompaulTm_T, I am not on staff any longer17:04
Tm_Tompaul: thanks :)17:04
* ompaul at least is a helpful basket case :)17:04
ompaulI was going to be very cruel about myself so please don't pull me for being not pc thanks17:05
Tm_Tompaul: look picard for instance17:05
Tm_Tor Zanav17:05
ompaulTm_T, take it to pm please17:06
Tm_Tgotcha17:06
Tm_Tand phone ->17:06
ompaulk17:06
gnomefreakis chanserv having issues? or freenode having issues?17:23
ompaulnot that I can note17:24
ompaulpopey, ^^ did you get my map note for you17:24
popeyyes17:24
gnomefreakhmmmmm ok17:24
ompaulpopey, you out in cambridge?17:25
gnomefreakwhat would this error mean 17:06 -!- Irssi: Channel not fully synchronized yet17:25
ompaulsome server lag one of them is out by a bit17:25
gnomefreakah  ok17:26
gnomefreakbut it should happen all the time if that were the case right?17:26
gnomefreakseems he gets it when trying to /kick /remove what not17:26
ompaulno - they generally are okay 17:28
ompaultalk with Mr N when he shows up17:29
gnomefreakah ok i think i fixed him already just waiting to see17:29
gnomefreaknope cycle didnt do it17:29
Tm_Tompaul: staff contacted, FYI17:32
gnomefreakTm_T: ty17:32
ompaulTm_T, k17:32
gnomefreakTm_T: ompaul is staff ;)17:32
ompaulno he ain't any longer17:33
ompaul:)17:33
Tm_T:p17:33
ompaulgnomefreak, check cloakz17:33
Tm_Tompaul: but you are!17:33
* Tm_T hides17:33
ompaulwhere he gone he no hide too good 17:34
gnomefreakhes a kde dev17:34
ompaulI know that 17:34
ompaul:)17:34
gnomefreaki didnt 17:34
ompaulahhh17:34
Tm_Tompaul: didnt like it :(17:35
gnomefreaknoone ever does but they get used to it17:36
ompaulyou are supposed to be able to come back really quick17:36
ompaulgnomefreak, demonstrage17:36
ompauldemonstrate even17:36
gnomefreakompaul: not all of us have insane autorejion scripts17:36
ompaulgnomefreak, there is that17:36
gnomefreakirssi doesnt have a working one17:36
ompaulohh 17:37
gnomefreakand i dont know enough perl to make it work17:37
* ompaul cries for irssi versions everyone and kicks out all the irssi people :)17:37
gnomefreak:)17:37
ompaulgnomefreak, ask nalioth I think he has one17:37
Tm_Tautorejoin is something I wouldnt touch even a long pointy stick17:37
gnomefreakTm_T: we are allowed to17:37
ompaulhahaha17:37
gnomefreakspeak of the devil17:37
Tm_Tgnomefreak: I still wont17:37
ompaulTm_T, well the thing is that we got this thing called op wars usually kept for #ubuntu-offtopic17:38
ompaulor in here there is opabuse17:38
gnomefreaknalioth: something is wrong in #kubuntu-devel with kicking or removing17:38
Tm_Tompaul: and I dont like it either17:38
ompaul!opabuse17:38
Ubotwoleave the ops alone ktnxbye17:38
gnomefreaklol17:38
Tm_Tompaul: you can have your fun together but leave me out :)17:39
gnomefreakout of channel?17:39
Tm_TI'm rather old grumpy hermit17:39
ompaulTm_T, I'll try to remember you don't like it :-) please don't hide it does something funny in my brain :)17:39
Tm_T=)17:40
* ompaul tries to adjust the wiring17:40
gnomefreak!pastebin18:05
Ubotwopastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)18:05
gnomefreakubotwo info sunbird18:10
Ubotwognomefreak: Error: "info" is not a valid command.18:10
gnomefreakgrrrrr18:10
nalioth!info sunbird18:11
naliothubot3 info sunbird18:12
ubot3sunbird: Sunbird stand-alone Calendar. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 8366 kB, installed size 26284 kB18:12
PriceChildHmm off to the chippy.18:29
PriceChildIf that guy appears, tell him to wait for me.18:30
PriceChild(#ubuntu)18:31
no0ticbye19:16
PriceChildnalioth, rw: sudoking from -classroom... i think he's just a troll tbh... was abusing the bot earlier in #ubuntu20:03
PriceChild*re:20:03
naliothPriceChild: yep20:03
LjLbesides, winbond was a troll, wasn't he20:37
ompaulyes20:39
PriceChildhey Seveas :)21:00
gnomefreakhi Seveas 21:00
Seveasola21:00
PriceChildubotu's broken21:01
PriceChildnagios looks wierd21:01
* Gary bites Seveas 21:01
ompaulSeveas, hello sms man 21:01
PriceChildsms?21:01
Seveaskilled the bastard21:02
ompaulshort message service21:03
ompaulphone thing21:03
SeveasWhy isn't +1 'open' yet, hardy is open for a while already21:03
LjLSeveas: hey there. it was weird - two days ago, some servers split, ubotu went down and my bot too, i looked at 'screen' and it was trying to reconnect, but got stuck at it...21:04
Seveassame here21:04
PriceChildompaul, yup... just didn't understand the reference.21:04
LjLSeveas: i thought there would be a connection timeout...21:04
Seveasand I was getting drunk on friday and on a release party yesterday21:04
ompaul:-)21:04
LjLSeveas: well i'll open +1, i don't really follow releases this early21:04
ubot3In #ubuntu, Seveas said: !hardy =~ s/$/ | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1/21:06
LjLeek nalioth your bot autorejoins21:07
jdonghaha21:08
PriceChild!test21:08
UbotwoFailed.21:08
ubotuFailed.21:09
PriceChildi smell trouble with <Dash4cash4077>21:25
gnomefreakim in 20 channels what one is he in?21:25
PriceChild#ubumtu21:27
PriceChild*#ubuntu21:27
PriceChildhehe... ubumtu21:27
jdonghaha. you said bum.21:27
PriceChildjdong, sounds like...... bum!21:27
* mc44 pages Dr. Freud21:27
jdongubumtu suppository help.21:27
Garybum, did someone say bum?21:27
PriceChildmc44, n and m are close together....21:27
jdongGary: yes, we're talking about bum trolls21:27
mc44PriceChild: makes it even easier for your subconcious!21:27
PriceChildbum trolls in #ubumtu21:28
Garyoh, thats a shame, I thought we were talking about PriceChild's bum21:28
PriceChild:O how rude!21:28
jdongGary: hey man, asian's where it's at :)21:28
PriceChildI think you crossed the line there.21:28
SeveasGary, neh, that has no gossip value21:28
GaryPriceChild, really?21:28
PriceChildand there goes the dong leaping over it21:28
PriceChildGary, :D21:28
jdongPriceChild: :P21:29
GaryI'm so sorry21:29
Garylet me make it up to you?21:29
jussi01hmmmm is there a factoid about ubuntu on a usb stick?21:52
LjLjussi01: i think there's just !install21:55
LjLwhich explains, somewhere, something about installing from an usb stick... possibly on... not sure21:55
jussi01LjL: ok. :)21:55
jussi01!install21:55
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate21:55
jussi01LjL: thanks very much. :)21:57
* no0tic is an -it op ;)22:16
jdongno0tic: please read topic.22:17
* jdong should trigger on no0tic join :D22:18
no0ticjdong, I already read ita couple of times22:18
* jdong adds trigger...22:18
ompaulhmm22:19
ompaulcan't do that 22:19
* ompaul wanders off whistling22:20
jdongno0tic: rejoin :)22:20
jdongno0tic: can we help you?22:21
ompaulhe needs to change that quit message22:21
* no0tic is an -it op ;)22:21
no0ticompaul, I'll fix that22:21
jdongok, it works :)22:21
ompauljdong, why not give him a +v 22:21
jdongompaul: it's not my decision?22:22
ompaulahh 22:22
no0ticompaul, I bow to you22:22
ompaulthe voice is for any ubuntu op22:22
ompaulno0tic, don't bow just fix that damn quit message :P22:22
jdonglol22:22
ompaulis my manager speak showing again :)22:23
TheSheepif he replaced 'girl' with 'person of opposite sex' would it stop being sexist? ;)22:23
no0ticompaul, "if you think [...] you are right" is better?22:23
ompaulno0tic, I would be more well I would say "if you think, you are doing it right"22:24
jdongno0tic: how about "second law of nerddom: The electric flux through a closed conducting shell is zero"22:24
no0ticjdong, I'd hit it22:25
no0ticjdong, :D22:25
jdonglol :)22:25
ompaulno0tic, how about "when I leave IRC is it still there?   :-) " 22:25
ompaulhaha22:26
jdong"if a netsplit happens but nobody sees it, is it still a netsplit?"22:26
gnomefreakwhen ompaul leaves IRC mine shuts down :(22:27
no0ticbtw, my previous part message belonged to questionablecontent, a nerdish/indie comics site22:27
ompaulgnomefreak, if I was to leave it for 6 weeks it would implode22:28
* ompaul goes on a 7 week holiday 22:29
gnomefreaki agree it hink it would22:29
* gnomefreak cant even get a 2 day holiday :(22:29
gnomefreakand canonical isnt paying me for my work22:29
ompaulgnomefreak, you should plan a break of a week somewhere say after the second "flight"22:31
gnomefreaki will once i get mozilla code up to date22:31
gnomefreakthe one day off this week im taking is for court22:32
PriceChildjdong, yes22:32
=== ompaulafk is now known as ompaul
=== no0tic is now known as gioppo
=== gioppo is now known as no0tic
ompaulohh noes its rob23:44
* ompaul gets ready to go to bed23:44
ompaulnight all23:44
elkbuntunight ompaul 23:44
gnomefreaknight23:44
robboo.23:44
robnn ompaul 23:44
* gnomefreak gonna get yelled at :(23:47
andresmujicahi all, just wondering. would it be possible to create support channels for each distro supported. i know that most people use the latest and greatest ubuntu version, but come on, 12000, 1500 users almost all day???  i tried to give and ask for support but sometimes is almost impossible...23:49
jribthere are not many release-specific issues that come up in #ubuntu23:50
andresmujicajust looking for an unswared post is hard.... i belive that would be important to find a solution for this, i mean to help in a better way our users23:50
gnomefreakandresmujica: making other channels will just mean same amount of helpers over more channels it doesnt mean you will get help faster or better23:51
andresmujicasomething like #ubuntu-dapper #ubuntu-edgy  #ubuntu-feisty #ubuntu-gutsy ... even if the channel can detect the OS version it can be automatically redirected (i think so)23:51
elkbuntuandresmujica, that would divide up the helpers, and force them into one single channel when they could be helping all channels... additionally, dividing attention 5 ways would slow things down anyway23:53
gnomefreakandresmujica: it has been brought up many times and we have come to same ending each time23:53
andresmujicahmmm ok.23:53
andresmujicai'm just worried that the channel is growing and growing...23:53
andresmujicawhere can i get some numbers?23:53
andresmujicai mean, people connected all the time23:53
andresmujicaso we can check the evolution off this?23:53
elkbuntuandresmujica, most people in the channel are lurkers who never speak anyway23:54
* andresmujica discovers that he almost all the time is a lurker ... 23:54
elkbuntuandresmujica, it's grown about 150 since release, but in a few weeks it'll drop by about 100 again23:54
gnomefreakgod i hate going over the same package time after time because someone(me) did something stupid23:57
LjLandresmujica: someone comes here saying that *every* release. then the channel settles down after a while. every time. we reached 1600 users on edgy release.23:59
LjLanyway, most people seeking support are using gutsy, so splitting like that wouldn't work.23:59
naliothPriceChild: please leave the +f in place23:59
andresmujicahmmm23:59

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