=== cmonkey is now known as nrp [10:41] Anyone around to help? [10:42] !ask [10:42] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [10:42] OK, I've already been around a couple of days ago... [10:42] Speaking to sbalnaev, ogra ... [10:42] Had a problem mounting USB flash drives on thin-clients... [10:43] ah. i probably cant help with that [10:43] Got it working finally - but afterwards found that it only works on ONE client at a time .... [10:43] Who should I speak to? [10:44] hang around, hopefully who you spoke to a few days ago will get online [10:45] they are probably at UDS though [10:46] Thanks for your time. [10:46] no worries, good luck with the problem [10:48] Kamping_Kaiser: While you're around, how about a question about disk quota management - do you know how to set this up? [10:50] ii, no. as far as ubuntu goes, i'm stuck in the past - theres probably all sorts of cool and easy ways to set it up, which icant tell you [10:51] OK [12:34] RichEd: do we have the edubuntu specs on LP now ? [13:06] stgraber: ogra has most of the edubuntu ones in ... [13:06] i have the 1st classmate (planning session for the rest of the specs) in as well [13:06] and then sorting out the education discussion specs now [13:07] ok, I'll subscribe to some of them then [13:37] Morning all [13:39] sbalneav, hey mate [13:39] Hello Kamping_Kaiser! [13:40] sbalneav, :) hows it going? [13:40] i note your at UDS [13:41] I am! [13:41] enjoying yourself? [13:41] So far. We're in the "launchpad 101" right now with Keybuk. [13:41] Bug 101 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/101 is private [13:41] lol [13:42] I'm not really paying attention, as I'm fairly conversant with launchpad at this point :) [13:42] :) [13:42] * Kamping_Kaiser just spotted an email saying 'gobuntu today' - this causes me destinc lack of joy :( [13:43] How come? [13:43] i'm thinking about subbing myself to any specs that involve edubuntu/ubuntu server. see if i can get myself involved again this cycle [13:43] Tue Oct 30 00:13:36 CST 2007 [13:43] i'm meant to be in bed - 2 hours ago :| [13:43] lol [13:43] No rest for the wicked :) [13:44] :P [13:46] i'll be buggered at work tomorrow - oh well, suppose tis to be expected [13:55] later mate. enjoy UDS [14:47] Heya [14:52] I work in a school that has an ancient IT suite, a dozen or so PC's running win98 and they are all networked via a router. my question is, how difficult would it be to get edubuntu working on them with network support? [14:53] if I just boot them all off the live CD, will they be able to "see" each other and access the internet? [14:53] please, I want a help: how I install files in my Plam by GNOME-PILOT? (I can syncronize my to do list and address.. but I dont know how I install *.prc or *.pdb br GNOME-PILOT)... please, some help! [14:54] HenriqueGogo, just drag the *.prc on to the gnome pilot icon then sync as usual, works for me [14:56] RichEd: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/ [14:56] silentmind: I tried this, but doesnt work [14:59] HenriqueGogo, sorry but i dot know what else to suggest === Burgundavia_ is now known as Burgundavia [16:50] RichEd, url or gobby session are you placing the classmate specification in? [16:51] will be on a wiki page ... in my notepad now ... will publish after lunch ... prolly around 3:00 [16:51] RichEd, thanks [16:57] http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12355_22-172164.html [16:57] I just do not use the "zed" word, so sorry... [18:08] hi all [18:09] hey LaserJock [18:10] Burgundavia: you in Boston? [18:12] Anyone here from the education profession? [18:14] me.. [18:28] anyone on to help me troubleshoot an issue i'm having? [18:29] richard__, what kind of issue are you involved with? [18:30] ltsp [18:30] clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor [18:31] Anyone else an educator? Seemed to have lost contact with cliebow [18:32] yep [18:37] haha, I hear Scotty!! [18:37] and Oli [18:47] stgraber: so what's the consensus? [18:47] LTSP will be on ubuntu alternate (with a ltsp kernel), then all the education softwares will be on the add-on cd [18:48] so dropping the first CD? [18:48] yes, edubuntu being something you add on top of the ubuntu alternate/desktop cd [18:49] stgraber: tell everybody hello [18:53] clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor [18:53] processes for that user continue to run [18:56] RichEd: ping [18:56] LaserJock: done [18:56] LaserJock: he's talking with cjwatson :) [18:57] k [18:57] LaserJock: p0nG [19:06] howzit guys [19:07] sucky [19:07] hi highvoltage [19:08] richard, cant scroll up on this device, so cant read your whole problem [19:08] richard, but what i have done in labs before... [19:09] clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor [19:09] is to install slay and add it to the logout scripts [19:09] processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen [19:09] slay kills all the processes of the user its running as ans then itself [19:13] sbalneav, you are here just in time [19:13] can you help me with a problem i'm having? [19:13] clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor [19:14] processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen [19:14] .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.ca/754016 [19:42] sbalneav, any idea on above issue? [19:42] Sorry, didn't see it [19:42] Can you repeat? [19:42] clients sometimes freeze and after hard reboot after login come up with black screen and cursor [19:43] processes for that user continue to run so when they log in they get a black screen [19:43] .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.ca/754016 [19:50] richard__: Well, if you're not logging out properly, you'll have to do a pkill -u userid to clean out the old processes. [19:51] Using moquists's xterminator would help too. [19:51] hmm... is there a way to have that run automatically when someone tries to log in with the same username? [19:56] Yes, that's the idea of it. [19:56] moquist: ping [19:57] richard__: keep an eye for moquist, he can help you with it. [19:57] pongo [19:57] He's coming [19:57] I'm talking with sonja, but I'll keep an eye on here... [19:57] hi moquist and dtrask [19:57] hey [19:57] hey LaserJock [19:57] :-) [19:58] moquist: If you can point richard__ at xterminator [19:59] hang on.... [19:59] * moquist will have to google to find the URL for his own PPA ;) [19:59] sonja has it. :) [20:00] richard__: add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list: http://ppa.launchpad.net/moquist/ubuntu feisty universe [20:00] richard__: then apt-get install xterminator [20:00] that's it [20:00] moquist, on server? what does this do? [20:01] richard__: it kills the left over processes [20:01] ogra! [20:02] hey [20:02] so do i install it on the server? [20:02] or in the chroot? [20:02] I think the server [20:04] so this kills the left over processes when? is it when a hard reboot is done or is it upon login? [20:04] moquist, do i install this on the server or in the chroot? [20:05] richard__: it kills the processes on logout I believe [20:05] it should be on the server [20:05] oh then it won't help me because the issue is when the client doesn't log out properly... [20:05] because when the client is shut down it's processes are killed for sure [20:05] richard__: I think it'll still work [20:06] ok i'll try it now [20:06] it may be at login, I can't remember [20:06] but people where having similar issues [20:06] and moquist's app seemed to work well for them [20:07] is there anything to configure? [20:07] no [20:08] future reference don't type xterminator --help [20:09] Oops [20:10] Is that why you disappeared? [20:10] LOL [20:10] whoops! [20:10] yeah lol [20:10] that won't happen again [20:10] moquist is laughing....because he feels bad and realized what happened [20:10] no config....just install....it does the rest [20:11] can't remember the file, but you can edit and cut the amount of delay down from a default of 8 seconds to something lower like 4 secs or less. [20:11] will speed up login time [20:11] not boot time [20:12] dtrask, and what exactly does this do? [20:12] in a nutshell....looks at who you are (logging in)...looks for older processes from previous session and KILLS them [20:13] that rocks! [20:13] thus no more hanging processes [20:13] wheee! [20:13] ogra, is this xterminator going to be included in future edubuntu releases? this will save my life. (almost) [20:13] If you read the script...it's quite humourous....it's essentially the murder of an entire family ;-) [20:13] moquist, worked awesome!!!! [20:14] richard_: great! [20:14] richard_: sorry about the --help bug ;) [20:14] moquist is actually giddy with excitement and can hardly contain himself [20:14] that's fine as long as it works i'm good! [20:15] this should definitely be included with ltsp! [20:17] moquist, you should add an echo upon xterminator --help saying(don't play with the xterminator or you might find yourself dead, no configuration needed) ;) [20:18] haha [20:28] richard_, i dont think its appropriate for a default install, we'll rather fix the apps o not hang (which is already going on) ... but as a safety net we can have a package in univers [20:28] +e [20:28] ok. [20:29] highvoltage: ping [20:29] moquist, so something else to train your packaging skills on ;) [20:30] indeed [20:42] ogra: I've always intended xterminator to go into universe [20:43] it's not ready yet, but it can be soon. [20:43] The package itself is ready, but the script needs some work...such as --help. :-D [20:43] moquist, would be good to have it in case the desktop team doesnt get everything fixed [20:44] ogra is there a way to set up local usb printer? [20:44] ogra: it's targetted for hardy ;) [20:44] (indeed its importnt that enough people test during hardy development and give feedback to them) [20:44] richard_: local to a thin client? [20:44] yes [20:44] * moquist bows out, having obtained that clarification [20:45] richard_: I don't think so, but I'm not an authority on the subject. sbalneav, ogra ? [20:45] plug it in, add PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0 to your lts.conf [20:45] richard_: See? :) [20:46] then just point the setup to to the client ip (shown on the clients login manager (bottom right)) as jetdirect priter [20:46] s/setup/pinter setup tool/ [20:46] *printer :) [20:47] ok i'll try that [20:48] I also have a client that the mouse randomly starts going really slow (usb mouse) any ideas what to look at on it? [20:49] hmm, not really ... [20:49] dmesg on the client in a console might probably reveal something [21:28] sbalnaev: ogra: I'm back again (Edubuntu Gutsy server with local devices connection problems). Thanks for your efforts last time - managed to get it working in the end with your help but ... [21:28] ... I didn't realise until later that only ONE client at a time gets access to it's local devices ... this is not dependent upon a specific client or a specific user, but rather whoever logs in first from whatever client has access to local devices - the rest don't. [21:29] I've even tried a fresh install WITHOUT playing around with any of the default user accounts (except to add two new users) and I still had exactly the same problem [21:30] If it helps at all, then I've noticed that CPU usage on the server remains at close to 100% after the second client has logged on. [22:47] we have a problem with missing translation with GCompris on Gutsy. It's like the gcompris.mo doesn't get installed. [22:48] :/ [23:28] can anyone recommend a good school management system