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NickPrestaeljefe, in nvidia-settings, its 3 clicks away :)00:02
eljefeits greyed out tho :(00:03
ardchoilleeljefe: Are you launching nvidia settings with kdesu?00:04
NickPrestaeljefe, really? At the risk of being unhelpful, it worked for me when run as root.00:04
eljeferunning it with "sudo nvidia-settings" i would imagine its the same00:05
ardchoille!kdesu | eljefe00:05
ubotueljefe: In KDE, use « kdesudo » (Gutsy) or « kdesu » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use « sudo <GUI application> »; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo00:05
eljefefirst, thats stupid.  but second, it didn't change anything ! :(00:06
eljefeah i did kdesu on gutsy, mucking it all up i guess.00:06
eljefelet me try again.00:06
eljefeah but the same :(00:07
NickPrestaeljefe, do you see two monitors00:07
eljefeardchoille: how can i check myy current driver?00:07
ardchoilleeljefe: kdesu on gutsy is just a symlink to kdesudo00:07
eljefeno i don't00:07
NickPrestaeljefe, do you have two monitors setup in your xorg.conf?00:07
eljefei've done this before but always with Envy; i was hoping Gutsyy could do it for me this round.00:07
eljefeNickPresta: good question...00:08
eljefenope :(00:08
eljefelol00:08
eljefeok but really?  its a TVout, there isn't much to make happen00:08
eljefethats why there is the app, no?00:09
AT0M1CB0MB3R!scroll00:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scroll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:09
LjL!enter00:09
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:09
sparksterhola00:10
NickPresta!find tv00:10
ubotuFound: gappletviewer-4.2, kghostview, linux-image-2.6.22-14-386, linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-image-2.6.22-14-server (and 75 others)00:10
NickPrestacrap, that isn't helpful heh00:10
sparksteralgun hispanohablante por aqui?00:10
AT0M1CB0MB3RNickPresta: this is the page im having a hard time scrolling00:10
inaetyhow can i print a selection from konqeuror00:10
LjL!es | sparkster00:10
ubotusparkster: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:10
sparksterthank you!00:11
inaetyit can't find a simple button for it? it's probably right under my nose00:11
NickPrestainaety, I don't see it either =\00:12
inaetyNickPresta: it has to be somewhere o_O00:13
atlfalcons866how do i delete stuff in KDE00:13
inaetyatlfalcons866: that's a little vague00:13
atlfalcons866i mean when i delete stuff on my thumb drive it just copys it to anthor folder in the thumb drive00:14
atlfalcons866i mean when i delete stuff on my thumb drive it just copys it to anthor folder in the thumb drive00:15
miaviatorkonqueror has no print selection http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1182500:15
inaetymiaviator: thats so weird, dontcha think00:15
miaviatorRather inconvenient00:15
AT0M1CB0MB3RNickPresta: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=23896739900:15
mike-kubuntuhow do i start compiz before kwin00:16
atlfalcons866why does it do that00:16
mike-kubuntuits having problems starting after00:16
mike-kubuntuand i cant find out where in startkde/ kde.desktop/ kdmrc i would need to put it00:16
inaetynot sure what you mean atlfalcons86600:17
NickPrestaAT0M1CB0MB3R, i have to be their friend to see the profile but i imagine there is a crapload of shoddy HTML, large pictures and media which is causing the slowdowns. Does it happen on every page, or just on MySpace?00:17
inaetyright click delete, then on your desktop hit safely remove00:17
atlfalcons866when i delete a file it copys it to the .trash folder instead of just deleting it00:18
atlfalcons866in gnome it just deleted it right away00:18
inaetyAT0M1CB0MB3R: myspace sucks on everything especially with the profiles with flash00:18
lasca1.00:18
inaetynot sure atlfalcons86600:18
Caelumm anyone ableto answer a quick question, i mounted a Fat32 Windows Partition but it says i dont have the permissions to Write00:18
miaviatoryou mean flash sucks --> inaety00:18
inaetymiaviator: yeah but it is essential...00:19
miaviatorTrue00:19
atlfalcons866flash drive miaviator00:19
lasca1hello00:19
miaviatorits a saftey feature00:19
Caelwhat do i need to do to mount it in Read/write? (its a old windows 98 partition)00:20
AT0M1CB0MB3RNickPresta: mostly on myspace but pageswith heavy text00:20
miaviatorCael  Most likely you didn't mount with user permissions or the system didn't, or the card's Writelock is on00:20
Caeli mounted it like this sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media00:21
miaviatoror sudo mount -o user /dev/DRIVE /MOUNTPOINT (man mount)00:21
SudoKingsudo00:21
SudoKing:)00:21
Cael(Live cd session atm)00:21
miaviatorthat might be wrong, it's users00:21
|Toadanyone have any trouble uploading pictures to photobucket?00:23
inaetymiaviator: think kde4 will add the support?00:25
Aloneabigdad1e: I have no idea how. did you find the ndiswrapper page? and really if you are going to use linux, it is best to do it yourself so you learn. the pages on the ndiswrapper site are very helpful. there is also the irc.00:25
bigdad1eyes i did but i cant seem to get it installed00:27
bigdad1ei just need someone to show me to learn00:27
miaviatorineaty: One would hope,  I've heard a lot of hype for KDE4,  but from the bug page it doesn't look promising00:28
coreymon77miaviator: thats why its still a beta00:28
coreymon77miaviator: beta means buggy00:28
atlfalcons866how do i use kde4 now00:29
miaviatoradd a repot with k4 builds00:29
miaviatorand enjoy the chrashes!00:29
coreymon77atlfalcons866: unless you are a developer, i dont suggest it00:29
atlfalcons866its for my older computer00:29
coreymon77atlfalcons866: then i definitely dont reccomend it00:30
Aloneabigdad1e: ok, are you having trouble installing ndiswrapper or your driver?00:30
luboshello, is it possible to disable right-click on the desktop when using fluxbox as a desktop manager? thank you00:30
atlfalcons866my main computer is 2.8GHz Pentuim D my older computer is intel pentium 4 1.8Ghz00:30
bigdad1endis00:31
Aloneabigdad1e: ok, so you downloaded the file and used ark to unarchive it?00:31
LifeNomadWhen I am trying to run the kubuntu live-cd my screen just goes black, and nothing comes up except for a mouse pointer, vidcard=BFG Nvidia 7800 Gt OC00:31
bigdad1ei tryed to unzip it and it wont00:32
miaviatorndiswrapper is included in the standard repo's00:32
miaviatorndiswrapper ndiswrapper-common00:32
Aloneamiaviator: is it now? i never knew. also don't trust the repos these days00:32
miaviatorIt is00:32
Aloneamiaviator: though hopefully for this it wont cause any problems00:33
Aloneabigdad1e: yeah, just search in adept and install ndiswrapper from there then00:33
NickPrestaAlonea, why don't trust the repos?00:33
bigdad1ei tryed that and it wont install00:33
miaviator@Alonea Adept00:33
AloneaNickPresta: had too many things not work in them and work when I installed then manually00:34
miaviator@bigdad1e what error?00:34
cptnspoonHey all, anyone care to help me get my nvidia geforce4 to work under gutsy? Been trying for over a week and still no luck00:34
Aloneaanyway, I gotta go00:34
NickPrestaAlonea, like what? If you're having trouble with apps in the repos, you should report a bug since others are probably having trouble too00:34
bigdad1ePlease insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter00:34
NickPrestasigh00:34
miaviator@cptnspoon -->  why doesn't it work00:34
Darkrift411ok, i have a usb hd i plugged in (its ntfs i believe) and It shows up as a thumbdrive, and i can read from it, but cannot write to it. Even when running konq in root. I just want to copy files to it to take over to the kids windows computer, but dont know how. I am willing to format/repart the drive, but it would have to be windows readable00:35
Darkrift411anyone able to help?00:35
cptnspoonmiaviator: I have no idea, i've installed the nvidia drivers via adept and it just crashes x so I have to edit the xorg.conf and revert back to the 'nv' driver00:35
miaviator@darkrift411 --> make your comments more legal friendly,   google for fuse and ntfs-3g00:36
Darkrift411legal friendly?00:36
Darkrift411i have ntfs3g installed00:36
Darkrift411i can read from ntfs drives, but it doesnt seem to want me to write to it00:36
miaviatorSure it's not what you meant "to take over the kids windows computer"00:36
miaviatorsorry my misunderstanding00:36
gan|y|medhi00:37
NickPrestahi, gan|y|med00:37
gan|y|medanybody using ksynaptic?00:37
Darkrift411and fuse didnt find me much on google cept the expected nonrelated junk00:38
Darkrift411anyoneelse able to help?00:38
miaviator@darkrift it's in the docs00:39
miaviator@darkrift it's in the docs for ntfs3g00:39
Darkrift411k00:40
miaviator@darkrift what are u using to mount the drive?00:41
bigdad1ealonea what can i do?00:41
aceDoes anyone know if a patch to fix the sound problems has been released yet?00:43
gan|y|medi want to set custom key bindings in amarok, yet every time i close amarok (minimising) it reverts to the standard keys00:43
gan|y|medany ideas?00:43
miaviator@ganly if it is not saving your keybindings on close it sounds like a bug00:45
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cptnspoonOkay, I just tried loading my NVidia driver again (changed "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg.conf) and X wouldn't start again, it gave me some error like "Module nvidia...... couldn't be loaded". In my Xorg.0.log file the only error line I've got says this "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"00:45
Geekomancer1Hello, I have a question about Amarok. I'm trying to connect to an RSS stream that requires a username and password. the UN and PW are correct and I can connect to the stream in Rythembox. Is there something that needs to be enabled in Amarok for that that needs to be enabled? I'd use Rythembox, but I like Amarok better :)00:46
k5ubuntui need help getting my wireless card to work..........00:46
cptnspoonANY help would really be appreciated cause I want my video card back working!!00:46
Tm_Tcptnspoon: have you installed nvidia driver?00:46
Tm_Tcptnspoon: if yes, how00:47
k5ubuntuanyone willing to help me get my wireless card working............00:47
Tm_T!patience | k5ubuntu00:47
ubotuk5ubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines00:47
k5ubuntui know tm_t im sorry i just cant figure it out00:47
cptnspoonTm_T: Yep, I first installed it via the upgrade, then it didn't work so I installed it manually from the site, learned that was a big no no, so I uninstalled it, reinstalled all my ~nmesa packages and then reinstalled the nvidia drivers through adept00:47
Tm_Tcptnspoon: humm00:48
Tm_Tcptnspoon: you use nvidia-glx or -new?00:48
cptnspoonTm_T: is there any way I can check if they're installed properly?00:48
Tm_Tcptnspoon: sorta, yes00:48
cptnspoonTm_T: I initially used -new but then I check compatability and used nvidia-glx instead00:49
Tm_Tokie00:49
k5ubuntui need help setting up my wireless card: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI00:49
cptnspoonTm_T: Adept shows nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-2.6.22-14-generic and nvidia-kernel-common all installed00:50
Tm_Tcptnspoon: open konsole and enter "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx"00:50
k5ubuntu!help00:50
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots00:50
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caesar__is there a way I can legally watch DVDs on my computer?00:51
Tm_Tcaesar__: humm, I think I have heard there's powerdvd or similar app for Linux if that is your meaning00:52
Caeloki got my fat32 partition mounted to a read/write folder yet i still cantot write to the mounted filesystem, what am i doing wrong?00:52
cptnspoonTm_T: Okay, all done. Should I try to restart X? The other thing, when I'd hit Ctrl Alt Backspace it would hang on something like "Loading Startup Scripts" or something of the sort and I'd have to hit Alt F2 to get the command prompt back...might be completely unrelated00:52
Tm_Tcptnspoon: reboot even?00:52
Tm_Tcptnspoon: just for fun ;)00:52
caesar__Tm_T well, I can watch this DVD of mine, but only up to the FBI warning and that kind of stuff00:53
cptnspoonTm_T: Haha, okay, I'll reboot00:53
k5ubuntu!find compiz00:53
ubotuFound: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (and 15 others)00:53
Tm_Tcaesar__: yup00:53
cptnspoonTm_T: Argh, darnit, since doing that now my Reboot/Shutdown buttons have disappeared, now only Logout is available!!!00:53
cptnspoonTm_T: Should I just reboot via konsole?00:53
caesar__Tm_T: so powerDVD goes through all of that?00:54
k5ubuntuis compiz installed on 7.1000:54
Tm_Tcaesar__: should00:54
k5ubuntuhow do i enable this00:54
Tm_Tcaesar__: or any legal app00:54
Caelwhy do i feel as iwhen i come here for help i get ignored?00:54
Tm_T!compiz | k5ubuntu00:54
ubotuk5ubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:54
Tm_TCael: how long have you been here?00:54
cptnspoonTm_T: Okay, I'll reboot via konsole, brb00:55
Tm_Tcptnspoon: good luck00:55
Caelnot long (today) but i come often when i do need help00:55
aceI am currently lacking sound(running from an NVIDIA GeForce 7300), does anyone know if a patch to fix this has been released?00:55
andreaHi everybody00:56
Tm_TCael: around what time you come here? this is more active on european daytime00:56
andrea200:56
andrea2 AM00:56
Caelaroiund 4pm est00:56
NickPrestaace, you're lacking sound and you're running a 7300?00:56
aceyes00:56
NickPrestaace, your video card has nothing to do with your sound.00:57
Tm_TCael: that says nothing to me =)00:57
NickPresta!sound | ace00:57
ubotuace: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:57
aceit's running through it apperently, i checked this up a while back00:57
andreaI have two strange problems00:57
Tm_TCael: but trust me, we try help anyone we can00:57
andreamy keyboard in kubuntu 7.10 doesnt work correctly00:58
cptnspoonTm_T: Okay, I've rebooted and all seems to be fine00:58
andreaI have tried all the feasble mappings00:58
Tm_Tcptnspoon: yay!00:58
cptnspoonTm_T: Should I try editing my xorg.conf again though?00:58
andreabut nothing seems to change00:58
Tm_Tcptnspoon: to gain what?00:58
Tm_Tcptnspoon: oh, you're on nv?00:58
cptnspoonTm_T: Well reinstalling the drivers won't change xorg.conf to run under the nvidia driver again will it?00:58
Tm_Tthen yes00:59
cptnspoonTm_T: Yeah, otherwise I can't get into x. Okies...should I edit it, then do a reboot again?00:59
Tm_Tcptnspoon: you can, shouldnt harm00:59
cptnspoonTm_T: Righto, cheer for this. Brb00:59
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Tm_TCael: what does mount return about your problem?01:00
Caelvfat on /dev/hda1 (rw)01:01
miaviator@cptnspoon lsmod|grep nvidia01:01
cptnspoonTm_T: Oh, one other thing, there appears to be two places in xorg.conf my video card is listed, once under "Section  Device" and another under "Section   device #"01:01
Tm_Tcptnspoon: er?01:01
Tm_TCael: and mountpoint is something you have write access to?01:02
Caelyes01:02
cptnspoonmiaviator: That didn't return anything01:02
Tm_Thum01:02
Tm_Tbah bah bah01:03
Caelits mounted to a folder on my desktop,  /home/ubuntu/Desktop/mount01:03
blizzzekgn801:03
Tm_TI'm heading back to sleep, sorry folks but its night here ->01:03
cptnspoonTm_T: No probs, night mate01:04
cptnspoonmiaviator: I've pastebinned my xorg.conf, I have a feeling it's screwy cause of all the dabbling I've been doing, care to take a look at it? http://pastebin.ca/75320401:04
danny_how do i install desktop effects01:05
biovore!effects01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:06
danny_lol01:06
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k5ubuntuso01:07
k5ubuntu!find effect01:07
ubotuFound: effectv, heroes-sound-effects, r-cran-effects01:07
k5ubuntu!find desktop effects01:07
ubotuFound: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gnome-desktop-data (and 45 others)01:07
biovore!compiz01:07
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:07
schisteHey, did anyone made a dist-upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 ?01:09
Geekomancer1Nothing on Amarok and podcasts with UN and PWD?01:09
Darkrift411I have a 200g usb drive I am trying to make readable/writeable on linux and windows. I have just deleted the partition and made a new one, but I have not formatted it. XP wont allow me to format it fat and i dont know how to do it on linux. Anyone around that can help?01:10
Darkrift411is 200g over the fat32 limit?01:10
smorgfirefox's (set as default browser) doesn't seem to have any effect01:10
biovoreDarkrift411: yes01:11
Darkrift411you have to set it with a config file somewhere smorg, i ahd same problem01:11
biovoreDarkrift411: I think fat will only handle to 128GB01:11
Darkrift411dont know where, but i think it is a konq config file01:11
smorgyeah checking google now01:11
Darkrift411id search "kubuntu default web browser" think thats how i found it01:11
DoobehDoesn't NTFS-3G support read and write?01:12
Darkrift411ty biovore , ill make new paritions01:12
sub[t]rnlyou should just fdisk /dev/whatever01:12
sub[t]rnlthen create the fs type and partitions if needed01:12
Darkrift411Doobeh, i tried that, wouldnt let me write to the ntfs part i had on it01:12
Darkrift411even with kdesu konq, it said no permission01:12
DoobehWeird, could you view the files?01:12
Darkrift411yup01:13
Darkrift411but couldnt make new folders or write to it01:13
Darkrift411konq keeps saying "Stalled" to me now01:13
Darkrift411says no items in /01:13
DoobehDid you check the permissions for the drive?  I had to turn off 'mount as user' to get my usb drive to work01:14
biovore!ext2fsd01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2fsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:14
Darkrift411damnit01:14
Darkrift411damn, im lost01:15
Darkrift411ill hook it up to the xp box and redo the partitions01:16
Darkrift411im not that sure of myself messing with partitions in linux01:16
_aaa_in kubuntu, can I replace konqueror with firefox?01:16
jtmoneyhow do i check which version of fglrx is installed?01:16
Doobeh_aaa_: System Settings-> Default Applications01:17
jtmoneyi don't get it... i installed the new ati binary, but the instructions (granted, they were for 7.04, not 7.10) said to add fglrx to the whitelist... now glxgears won't even work01:17
jtmoneydoesn't that just disable the ati binary altogether?01:17
_aaa_ok,ty01:18
jtmoneyanyone?01:20
smorgjt: Is it a newer card?01:20
smorgolder ones prior to the 9800 series should use the free driver01:20
jtmoneymobile 20001:21
jtmoneyit's newer01:22
jtmoneymaybe if i don't whitelist fglrx01:22
jtmoneyi just don't understand... i had fglrx installed, then i followed the directions and installed the latest one (supposed to allow compiz to work with xgl)01:22
jtmoneynow it appears like it's just using a vesa standard one01:22
DoobehI'm using my ATI card with Compiz / XGL01:22
DoobehI can try and have a look for the guide I used if you want?01:22
smorgalso don't know if its good for the mobile ones01:23
jtmoneyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-99489608eb537a1a0346cdd3ad34209d7887714a01:23
smorgthere was some good info about the proprietary drivers on the kubuntu forums01:23
biovoremost of the mobile ati cards in laptop suck bad...01:23
jtmoneyscroll down to Ubuntu 7.04 ships with a utility to automate configuration of fglrx.01:23
jtmoneyyeah01:23
biovorethe close source driver dosn't even work well.01:23
jtmoneybut they were supposed to change it with the latest binary, i read01:24
smorgby the way guys01:24
smorgmy xserver completely crashed and wouldn't start when I tried installing it01:24
smorganyone have that problem?01:24
smorgI used the automated apt-get restricted driver gui that comes with gusty to do it01:24
mike-kubuntusome shortcut somewhere is over-riding alt+space for katapult, it opens up a menu when i do it, how do i disable that and get it back to katapult?01:26
Doobehmike-kubuntu: System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts01:31
* miaviator says hello01:32
miaviator!hello01:32
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:32
mike-kubuntuDoobeh: i've checked there and cant find any conflicting shortcuts01:32
Jucatomike-kubuntu: are you using Compiz?01:32
ubahmapkI'm having a horrible time installing Java on Kubuntu.  I've tried to follow several wiki's but none are working01:32
Dr_willisubahmapk,  using gutsy?01:32
miaviator@ubahmapk apt-get install java01:32
Dr_willis!find kubuntu-restricted-extras01:33
ubotuFound: kubuntu-restricted-extras01:33
Dr_willis!info  kubuntu-restricted-extras01:33
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB01:33
Doobehubahmapk-- remember to scroll down to the bottom of the EULA and tick the accept button :)01:33
miaviator!find01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:33
Dr_willisThat package installs Java and a lot of other extras01:33
ubahmapk"couldn't find package java"01:33
Dr_willisits not called 'java'01:33
Dr_willisinstall the kubuntu-restricted-extras  and it will include java and codecs, and flash, and other things.01:34
ubahmapkDr_willis: I'll give that a shot -- brb01:34
Dr_willisIF you are using gutsy01:34
miaviator!info chkrootkit01:34
ubotuchkrootkit: Checks for signs of rootkits on the local system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47-1.1 (gutsy), package size 264 kB, installed size 740 kB01:34
miaviator!find java01:35
ubotuFound: ecj-gcj, gcj, gcj-4.2, gij, gij-4.2 (and 341 others)01:35
ubahmapkdebian_version = 4.0....01:35
ubahmapkwhere do I tell if I'm on gutsy?01:35
ubahmapknope01:35
ubahmapkfeisty01:35
ubahmapkper sources.list01:35
mike-kubuntuJucato: sorry for the late reply, yes i am01:36
Jucatomike-kubuntu: you have to modify  Compiz's keyboard shortcuts then.01:36
Dr_willis!java01:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:37
mike-kubuntuJucato: any idea which thing it is?01:37
Jucatomike-kubuntu: I don't know. I don't use compiz01:37
mike-kubuntuJucato: yeah, sorry that was a premature question, when ccsm popped up i saw "general settings" and hit my forhead01:38
Jucato:)01:38
DoobehI use compiz and my ctrl-alt isn't taken01:39
Doobehctrl-alt is01:39
spamyboyOff-topic: I have just created on map and there was article writen about it, could anyone DIGG it pleas ? http://digg.com/gaming_news/http_www_allnevv_com_article_gaming_84/blog THANKS !01:40
Minataku...01:41
MinatakuYou realize that you can get banned from DIGG, that map site AND here, right?01:41
ubahmapkOk, off to upgrade to gutsy! thanks :-)01:41
Minatakuspamyboy: I highly suggest you refrain from such activities01:41
Doobehmike-kubuntu: try under General settings on compiz, then actions -> General and it's the Window Menu option, disable that01:41
MinatakuIf not for the sanity of others, the reputation of yourself01:42
DoobehNot sure that will help though, as I didn't touch that and my katapult works01:42
GS3User007_considering is name was spamyboy, i doubt he cares01:42
mike-kubuntuDoobeh: yeah, just did, but for some reason katapult still isn't being recognized, the window menu stopped though, gonna try a relogin to check if it will work01:42
MinatakuHeya, Dr_Willis :301:43
MinatakuWhat's up with you tonight?01:43
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MinatakuGS3User007: You'd be surprised01:43
GS3User007lol01:43
MinatakuOne time the spammer actually answered me01:43
Minatakulol01:44
pmurrhi, I always read in wikis and howtos if using ndiswrapper I have to add it to /etc/modules but ndiswrapper has a parameter -m that can "write configuration for modprobe" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper. is this the same than manually adding and what is better01:44
Doobehno joy mike?01:46
mike-kubuntuDoobah: thanks, that worked, mmm, no more kmenu01:46
Doobehah, good good01:46
mike-kubuntuis there anyway to expand katapults reach to farther into your home folder etc?01:46
Dr_willisMinataku,  darn wife is fighting with a 'free classified ad' web site. She cant understand "The site is down"01:49
kyronOUCH!... say, anyone can tell me if Guidance-power-management (for laptop management) is _supposed_ to take 12% of my 256MB of RAM O_o!01:49
MinatakuHeh01:49
kyronand a constant .3% CPU...01:49
kyronsounds horribly inefficient01:49
lovrehi01:49
MinatakuDr_willia: You going to try to mail those packages out for me tomorrow, perhaps?01:49
lovreall01:50
MinatakuEr01:50
MinatakuDr_willis01:50
MinatakuSorry, typo'd >.<01:50
mike-kubuntuthanks for the help guys01:53
Dr_willisI will try. No idea what all is going on here. Had to go get the Grandbaby an hr or so ago01:53
MinatakuCoo01:53
Dr_willislittle brat - ripped off the door trim last week. :)01:56
Dr_willishes 2.01:56
Minataku:o01:57
DoobehAnyone come across a problem with Emerald?  I can see a list of themes, but choosing one doesn't cause any effect02:00
Dr_willisDoobeh,  it works here.02:00
mkerseyConsole msgs?02:00
Dr_willisYou are using the Emerald-theme-manager to select the themes right?02:01
DoobehYup, there's no apply button though, I can just choose them in the list02:01
Dr_willisright - you double click them in the list. (or somthing like that_ and they get applied02:01
mkerseyRight... single-click = apply02:02
Doobehhmm, nothing02:02
Dr_williswell it works here.. lovely varity of Vista  clones and osx clones02:02
DoobehI'll have a dig though the forums, probably set something up incorrectly02:03
mkerseyI concur...02:03
mkerseyPerhaps run it from a term?02:03
Dr_willisif you are seeing the thmes.. then you did update the repositorys for the themes and downloaded them right?02:03
rickeyCouldn't find a realvideo shared library for version 4  ,would that be part of multiubuntu?02:04
Doobehyup, did the svn thing, downloaded the themes02:04
Doobehno messages on the console when I try and run (and apply)02:04
mkerseyOdd...02:04
DoobehI excel at odd it seems02:05
mkerseyHave you tried applying the theme, and then restarting the WM?02:05
rickeyno Doobeh you dont  know what odd is untill you meet me02:06
Doobehjust figured a way around it, if I pick the theme, then run emerald --replace02:06
Doobehit kicks in that theme02:06
mkerseythere you go02:06
mkerseyThat's close enough to restarting the WM02:06
Dr_willis:)02:06
Dr_willisi cant recall ever running emerald --replace02:07
Dr_willisheh.02:07
Dr_willisdid you start emerald manually to begin eith?02:07
Doobehyeah, I haven't attached it to the startup yet02:07
mkerseyOh, and which theme was applied previously?02:07
Dr_willisi just run compiz --replace and it starts emnerald.02:08
Doobehsomething vista-esque02:08
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mkerseyIf you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed, set compiz to autorun /usr/bin/emerald --replace02:08
Doobehwill check, thanks02:08
jhutchinsVista is nothing like compiz.02:08
jhutchinsCompiz is more like Leopard.02:09
Doobehthe window looked vista-esque :)02:09
mkerseyCompiz can be whatever :)02:09
DoobehI'm not talking about the whole program :)02:09
* Doobeh takes a step back from jhutchins ;)02:09
mcrandelloHi does anyone know how to get kubuntu to work with multiple-CD installshield installations and wine?02:09
mkerseyI'm impressed with being able to run compiz + kde in < 600MB RAM, a feat impossible for vista02:10
mkerseyWow, ne'er tried that one ...02:10
Dr_willismcrandello,  in the past ive copied all the data from the cd's to a single dir. THEn ran the installer from that dir.02:10
mcrandelloDr_willis: I'll try that. I guess there isn't a working supermount package or anything02:11
mcrandellothe --paperclip option seems to break things as well02:12
jhutchinsthere's running Vista, and then there will be running Vista with all the plugins, add-ons, spybots, and trojans it will accumulate in the next two years.02:15
jhutchinsI love how the "dock" essentially takes a widescreen display and reformats it to a conventional display + dock.02:15
snipzwas wondering if someone could help me, my system won't login basically after I login kdm just sits there for a bit until it returns me back to the kdm login screen02:18
mkerseyfresh install?02:19
snipzno, gutsy upgrade02:20
snipzI thought that maybe it was a no memory bug, but I have about 20 gigs free02:21
mkerseyHave you tried to rename the .kde folder in your /home folder?02:21
mkerseyJust to confirm proper kde settings02:22
snipzya, tried it once (to see if it would solve a different problem) logged in went through the settings process then after I logged out and restored it, havn't been able to login since, but I'm going to try renaming it again just to see if it works02:23
snipzmkersey, yea same problem even with the folder renamed...02:24
ardchoillesnipz: I'm curious, can you get to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1)?02:25
mkerseyHrm... try renaming your home folder then?  Of course, create an identical home folder with the correct permissions02:25
mkerseyotherwise kde won't start02:26
mm_202Im running 7.04, is there a way to just upgrade to 7.10 (Gusty), without formatting and installing it?02:26
snipzardchoille, yea I can switch into tty and I've tried killing kdm and starting x from a new tty to see if it crashes and what errors it shows02:26
ardchoille!upgrade | mm_20202:26
ubotumm_202: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:26
mm_202ardchoille: danke02:26
ardchoillebitte02:26
mkerseysudo apt-get dist-upgrade no?02:26
ardchoillesnipz: Go to a tty and run this comand, see if either file is owned by root:  ls -lha .{ICE,X}authority02:27
snipzarchoille both files are owned by my user02:27
ardchoilleok, that's good.02:28
snipzmy kdm log says something about aiglx not being enabled, but I havn't recently installed compiz or enabled compiz02:29
snipzmkersey, created a new user with same privliges, same problem for them also02:31
mkerseyAh-so.02:32
snipzstarting to look like a complete install02:33
mkerseySounds like a package issue.  To rule that out, do a "sudo apt-get update" and 2 "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to verify package dependencies02:33
mkerseyLook for errors02:33
mm_202ardchoille: would you recommend a clean install, or is the upgrade fairly painless?02:34
PC3hi all :)02:34
PC3what the root password :D02:34
PC3??02:34
clor0xpc302:34
clor0xgo into konsole02:34
clor0xtype sudo vi02:34
ardchoillemm_202: I don't do upgrades, so I can't say how painless they are.02:34
clor0xput in you password02:34
Dr_willisThere is no root password. :)02:34
clor0xthen type !/bin/sh02:35
Dr_willisuse the 'sudo' command.02:35
DragnslcrPC3- there is no root password02:35
clor0xand hit enter02:35
Dr_willis!sudo02:35
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:35
clor0xthan change the passwd with /etc/passwd02:35
mm_202ardchoille: so I take it you recommend just a clean install?02:35
clor0xerr02:35
clor0xpasswd02:35
snipzmkersey, I'll give that a go02:35
Dr_willisclor0x,  thats the most complex way ive ever seen that descivbed.. :)02:35
Dr_willisheh heh02:35
clor0x;)02:35
PC3:D thnx02:35
clor0xsome of us havent kept up with the times02:35
clor0xlol02:35
Dr_willisjust learn to use sudo! heh. I also like to use 'sux'02:35
clor0xoh i know how to use sudo lol02:36
Dr_willissux is darn handy to rember02:36
Dr_willis!info sux02:36
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB02:36
clor0xalthough i use gnome with kubuntu so i guess im kinda ass backwards...02:36
Dr_willisI will confess that i have sudo set where i dont need to enter my users password. :) Shame on me.02:37
aloneaok, I reinstalled kubuntu and it wont go into the system (black screen) unless I go to recovery mode and type in startx02:37
Dr_willisbut this is a single user system basicially02:37
Jucato!root02:37
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo02:37
mkerseyAs much as I recommend against this, "sudo passwd root" will ask you for the new root pass.  Sudo is preferred, tho ;)02:39
Dr_willisthers  No need for the 'root' at the end of that command mkersey  :)02:39
pramodHello friends, i need your help thee....02:39
pramodi am doing a prject about g++ compilers....02:39
ardchoillePlease do not teach others how to set a root password. it's not recommended and makes your system less secure to unlock the root account. Use sudo.02:40
aloneathe black screen reminds me of when I tried to install ati drivers manually. It did that then, so maybe when the system installed it tried to put on binaries for ati and messed up? not sure how to fix it.02:40
Dr_willisits a linux compentcy test. :) if you know enough linux to use that command.. then you pass. :)02:40
mcrandellois there a fix for sudo, kdesu etc still asking for a password after adding the user to the sudo group?02:40
Dr_willismcrandello,  after changing groups/ading the user must logout I belive02:40
Dr_willisfor the changes to take effect02:40
mkerseyEh, I just like to throw it in there :)02:40
mcrandelloyeah I rebooted several times since then it still is prompting for a password02:41
aloneawhat driver should I set it to in xorg.conf?02:41
mkerseyNot the suggestion, the username at the end where applicable02:41
aloneait is set currently to ati02:41
pramodcan anyone please help me about how the g++ compilers ouput the errors in the programs???02:41
pramodhow will i know more about g++?02:41
PC3can I use apt-get ??02:42
aloneaI knew I should not of gotten gusty...02:42
clor0xpc3: yes but why02:42
clor0xtechnically its aptitude02:43
clor0xbut adept is a gui front end02:43
PC3I wanna to install some apps -_- but I can't02:43
PC3I want to install firefox02:43
PC3I tried to download it from Firefox.com but I can't make it work02:43
DragnslcrPC3- Adept is the KDE GUI for apt02:43
DragnslcrPC3- if necessary, you can use apt-get from a console02:44
PC3it will be like that sudo apt-get install firefox  rifht ??02:44
clor0xbrb02:45
genefitzPC3, firefox is in adept.02:45
mkerseyYou can always use tab to auto-complete02:45
snoggsAre you better off running Kubuntu on an AMD processor?02:45
mkerseyBut, use adept02:45
DragnslcrPC3- yeah, but is there something wrong with Adept?02:45
snoggskeeps telling me that i386 architecture gets no love02:45
Dragnslcrsnoggs- as opposed to running it on a toaster?02:45
snoggsas opposed to running it on an intel processor02:46
Dragnslcrsnoggs- I doubt there's any inherent difference02:46
aloneaanyone at all have a clue? usually kubuntu installs clean with no problems.02:46
mkerseyUmm... unless you're using an x64 distro, shouldn't matter ;)02:46
snoggsso why does it say some apps don't support i386 architecture02:46
snoggs?02:46
mkerseyI mean, if it doesn't support x86, that is02:46
Dragnslcrsnoggs- I have an Athlon X2, and it works quite well for me02:46
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mkersey64-bit binaries won't support i386 arch naturally02:47
snoggsI'm on an intel dual core w/ 64bit support...so I need to get 64bit version?02:47
GS3User007i need some help... anyone any good at troubleshooting first time installs that don't seem to be going quite right?02:47
PC3I'm now runing adept and it download some updates :) ty for help ^^02:47
snoggscause all it said was if you don't have an amd64bit processor you need to download the 32bit version02:47
DragnslcrThough I use the 32-bit version. Not all programs have a 64-bit version that works quite right02:47
genefitzSnoggs, no, I have been running 32 bit Ubuntu on my 64X2 without any issue.02:47
mkerseyyep..02:47
snoggsk, thanks.02:48
mkerseyboth intel and AMD 64-bit chips have an x86 mode as well02:48
genefitzYou should be able to run 32 on 64, only issue being that you have to make sure you don't try to run 64 bit apps02:48
Dragnslcrsnoggs- the amd64 version might not run on an Intel processor. Not certain though02:48
Dr_willisalonea,  what is your video card anyway? If 'startx' works - try 'sudo kdm'02:48
greeghey02:48
Dr_willisIt would be very odd for startx to work, but kdm dosent.02:48
genefitzDrag, that may be true, I am not sure of the issues that come with EM64T.02:48
angasuleso how is it going so far with gutsy? many issues? I'm thinking of going with AMD64 this time (currently feisty i386)02:49
greegi tried 5 media players.  hdparm -i <dvd device>. and dvd's dont play smooth02:49
GS3User007i need some help... anyone any good at troubleshooting first time installs that don't seem to be going quite right?02:49
greegthe media players give an error of frame rate too high02:49
greegor frame buffer overflow02:49
aloneaDr_willis: I have an ati xpress 200m. I am guessing xorg.conf isn't right, well, more likely the ati setup didn't work out02:49
Dr_willisangasule,  i see no need for 64bit at this time02:49
genefitzAngasule: I am using Gutsy, and having much fewer issues than I had with feisty,02:49
Dr_willisalonea,  aha.. I had issues with my x200m with the fglrx drivers,  and logging out. it would  hang at a black screen02:50
angasulethe screen management seems particularly good in gutsy, from what I've seen in reviews02:50
genefitzThe only fixes I have had to do with with my sound, because sigmatel cars aren't yet supported, but I found a work around that did the trick nicely02:50
angasuleDr_willis: what's the need for i386?02:50
Dr_willisalonea,  I forget what i did to fix it. (other then disable kdm and use startx) -02:50
Dr_willisalonea,  I havent had the same problem under gutsy however.02:50
greegwindows was previously installed on this computer, so i know that this computer is capable of playing dvd's smoothly02:51
Dr_willisangasule,  a large # of machines out there are not 64bit. :) is why i guess.02:51
aloneaDr_willis: this is starting up. I remember when I installed fglrx months ago manually it gave me a black screen on startup. however, when installed with envy it went smooth. In this case, I just installed a clean system and its doing it. I didn't know that gusty would attempt to use those drivers02:51
GS3User007i'm having trouble getting kubuntu to boot correctly on an old compaq of mine. after the splash screen is done, the monitor goes black and hd is quiet. any thoughts?02:51
genefitzDr_Willis, the AMD 200M seems to be the new problem child. I just gave up on effects.02:51
angasuleDr_willis: mine is, it doesn't affect me if others use i38602:51
genefitzor should I say ATI? No difference to me..02:51
Dr_willisalonea,  using envy - well.. you are a bit on your own there. I never had to use envy.  a clean install would leave no traces of the old system02:52
Dr_willisalonea,  alli can say is that on my x200m laptop - Ive had no issues with gutsy. (yet) :) Im not sure if i am using the fglrx, or vesa drivers actually.02:52
aloneaDr_willis: well, it did something when it installed. xorg says ati, so not sure what mine is attempting to use02:53
greeghow is it that windows can even play dvd's but linux cant?02:56
greegi thought linux was the shit.02:56
savetheWorldgreeg: Please watch your language and topic, and help keep this channel family friendly.02:56
GS3User007i'm having trouble getting kubuntu to boot correctly on an old compaq of mine. after the splash screen is done, the monitor goes black and hd is quiet. any thoughts?02:56
mkerseyhow old is this compaq?02:56
greegGS3User007: sucks doesent it.02:56
GS3User00720002:56
GS3User007302:57
mkerseyUm... shouldn't have trouble..it's modern enough...02:57
greegyou need video card drivers perhalps02:57
stdingreeg: if you have a question then ask it02:57
GS3User007256MB ram, 2.4GHz cpu, Geforce4 mx440 video card02:57
greegstdin i did02:57
greegstdin how do i play dvd02:57
greegsmoothly02:57
mkerseyIs there an onboard video as well, or is that THE onboard?02:57
stdingreeg: you didn't ask that, you said that windows can play dvds, that's not a question02:58
GS3User007there is onboard, the card i mentioned is an add-on, pci02:58
greegstdin scroll up02:58
greegive been asking for days actually.02:58
greegthe media players give an error of frame rate too high02:58
snipzmkersey, well I tried that dist-upgrade, hasn't seemed make a difference, any other ideas?02:58
greegi tried 5 media players.  hdparm -i <dvd device>. and dvd's dont play smooth02:58
GS3User007i know i _shouldn't_ have problems, but it does02:59
snoggsdoes kubuntu offer SLI support?02:59
schisteEurk, I juste made an update (massive one) and I got a weird message "Mime type not found". One of the solution I found was to get to the Control Center, but I can't access it. Any idea?02:59
greegGS3User007: you get what you pay for.02:59
GS3User007i had the sam problem with the ubuntu and xubuntu live cds02:59
GS3User007greeg: hush greeg, you're not helping02:59
greegno one is helping me.02:59
snoggsgs3user007: I think your problem is lack of support for your vid card..I had the same prob...try using the onboard video02:59
GS3User007snoggs: i suppose that means i have to pull the card out?03:00
snoggsnope03:00
mkerseygreeg, take it easy.  Your call will be answered in the order received.03:00
PC3adept give me this msg "Break Install"03:00
snoggsjust try plugin your cable into the onboard it'll ignore the installed one03:00
mkerseyWhat media player are you using?03:00
snoggsbut to be on the safe side...ya pull out the other one03:01
greegvlc, xine, mplayer03:01
mkerseyAnd none of them work?03:01
greegi have in stalled libdvdcss203:01
greegplaying dvd's is not  smooth03:01
mkerseyAre your vid drivers up to date?03:01
greegyes.03:01
snoggsI have a machine w/ 2 vid cards on it including onboard... kubuntu ignored all those and recognized the plugged in adapter...which is why I'm loving these linux distros03:01
ardchoilleGS3User007: Your vid card is listed on the nvidia site as needing the mvidia-glx-legacy driver03:01
greegnividia-glx03:01
mkerseyWhat card?03:01
greegyes.03:01
GS3User007geforce4 mx44003:02
GS3User007thanks all03:02
greegi dont recall off the bat.  threw away the manual.03:02
GS3User007i'll give it a try03:02
ardchoilleGS3User007: nvidia-glx-legacy driver03:02
greegis there a command to recall that?03:02
snoggsGS3... the way I solved the problem on the machine that was giving me a headache was using the onboard vid card until I could install the drivers they are suggesting03:02
ardchoillegreeg: to recall what?03:02
snoggsthen everything was cool03:02
greegwhat kind of video card i have03:03
mkerseyYep, lspci | grep VGA03:03
ardchoillegreeg: ^^03:03
PC3when I use adept guys it give me this msg "Break install"03:03
rickeyok i need to download the whole mediubuntu package to make sure i get what i need03:03
rickey anyone got the link03:03
ardchoillerickey: No, medibuntu is a repo, not a package03:03
ardchoille!medibuntu | rickey03:03
uboturickey: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org03:03
greegnVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]03:03
greegalthough it's a PCI card03:04
inteliwasphow do i use or install a .jar file?03:04
mkerseyAh-so...03:04
ardchoillegreeg: That would be the nvidia-glx-legacy driver03:04
Dr_willisinteliwasp,  java --jar whatever.jar  (i think)03:04
Dr_willisor may -jar whatever.jar03:05
mkerseyWell, I'm not sure of the video decoding capabilities of that card, but nvidia-glx-legacy will support it better than the current03:05
greegardchoille: should i apt-get remove nvidia-glx ?03:05
greegor just apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy03:05
ardchoillegreeg: Is it working correctly?03:05
greegwell kde can run but watching dvd's is choppy.03:05
ardchoillegreeg:  I would do: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove nvidia-glx && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy03:06
greegthanx i'll just paste that03:06
ardchoillegreeg: Make sure xorg.conf is using the nvidia driver, then restart x03:07
greegardchoille: nvidia-xconfig is the command to point xorg.conf to the drivers03:10
KarriAnyone here that has any experience of how to bridge connections?03:11
diannita86Hi!!!!03:11
mkerseyBuy a super router that trunks??03:11
mkersey!info iptables03:11
ubotuiptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 367 kB, installed size 1268 kB03:11
mkersey?03:12
ardchoillegreeg: yes, but you still need to restart xorg03:12
diannita86x_x03:12
Karrino thanks, i'm trying to bridge my connection to my other computer without using a router or hub of any sort03:12
snoggsneed a crossover cable03:13
mkerseyOh, you want to inter connect two pc's without switch.03:13
mkerseyYep, snoggs has it03:13
Karriright03:13
snoggsyay I useful =D03:13
Karrii got the cables for it03:13
aloneaok, I have an ati card and it says under xorg the driver is ati, but it doesn't work. I just installed this system. I get a black screen when I try to start the system normally under grub, but if I goto recovery mode and type in startx, the system loads fine.03:13
ardchoillesnoggs: always a good feeling :)03:13
* angasule gives snoggs a medal03:13
mkerseyCrossover cable + static IPs on each PC is the easiest way03:13
Karrii used windows before to bridge it03:13
mkerseyYou're familiar with setting static IPs on the machines, right?03:14
ardchoilleIf you used Window, then everyone else is bridging to it too03:14
* ardchoille ducks03:14
Karrii'm pretty used to it03:14
mkerseyOh, and you don't want internet on either... otherwise, it's 2 NICs in one + iptables for you.03:14
snoggswell..I think windows had a utility that allowed you to bridge w/ straight throughs03:15
needlesconsole is aaawesome!03:15
Karriin windows all i had to do is..03:15
Karrigo into network options, get the overview for my diffrent hardware03:15
snoggsKarri: I know I might get yelled at here...but there are somethings windows did to help you out w/ that...even though they cut corners to do it03:15
Karrimark the hardware to bridge and choose bridge03:15
Karriwell i couldnt care much for what windows did, i just want to try my best to bridge the connection03:16
snoggsthen get a crossover cable03:17
mkerseyWait now, are you trying to set up a PC to be the router now?  Or just interconnecting two PCs?03:17
snoggsya I think I need to step back ehre...I only have simple solutions... =(03:17
Karrii'm trying to make this connection like this;03:17
mkerseyOoh, this is gonna be good :)03:17
* angasule gets ready for some nice ASCII art03:17
KarriInternet <-----> Me <-----> computer203:17
aloneaanybody not have their system work on clean install?03:18
angasuleKarri: how are you connected to the internet, how many network cards does your PC have?03:18
mkerseyYep.  Internet <--NIC1-->Computer<-->iptables<--NIC2-->PC203:18
snoggsmy solution...buy a router *cough03:18
snoggsooo multihomed systems...wheee03:19
mkerseyConcur *cough*03:19
Karrimine too but i'm more poor than a church rat03:19
snoggsfair enough03:19
snoggsbut you need two nic cards to make it happen03:19
Karrii got the two diffrent cards03:19
Karriand cables for it03:19
snoggswell one needs to be a straight through (connect to modem) other one needs to be a crossover03:20
angasuleKarri: ah, that's rather easy to do on kubuntu :)03:20
snoggscrossover goes between the pc's03:20
snoggsand ummm03:20
snoggshrm this is where I would have a question about it.... would you have to actually edit the routing table on the pc's?03:20
angasuleKarri: you have to set up /etc/network/interfaces , one to use whatever is right for internet (dhcp, I guess), and the second with a static IP, linked to the 2nd PC03:20
Karriangasule: I see, let me try it03:21
needleshey, does anyone have the howto install 32 bit flash for 64 bit users?03:21
mkersey*yikes*03:22
angasuleKarri: unfortunately I'm half asleep, my server is powered off and I'm half asleep03:22
angasule!flash03:22
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:22
mkerseyInstall the 32-bit version of firefox03:22
mkerseyIf it runs, that should work03:22
needlesthanks03:22
KarriAt the risk of sounding stupid: Btw, How do i know which card is which?03:23
Karriall it tells me is eth0 and eth103:24
mkerseyErm.... plugin a cable, run dhclient3 and see which one gets the IP :)03:24
Dr_willisethtool perhaops can tell you.03:24
Dr_willis!info ethtool03:24
ubotuethtool: display or change ethernet card settings. In component main, is important. Version 5-2 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 168 kB03:24
KarriJust a wild shot in the dark here but, the card that currently has an IP adress should be the one connected to the internet, correct?03:26
iecsami think so too03:26
Dr_willisUnless both are set up statically03:26
Dr_willis:)03:26
Dr_williswhat if the dhcp server is running on tht box with 2 cards?03:26
KarriDr_willis: if that means both have the cables connected, then yes they do.03:27
Karribut the only one with a strong connection would be the one i am connected to the internet with03:27
angasuleKarri: pluggingjust one and testing it out is the moethd I use03:28
aloneaanyone have any ideas on what to do when the default video card settings don't work?03:28
KarriAm i still connected?03:29
angasuleKarri: nope :P03:29
Karrihaha03:29
iecsamhaha03:29
Dr_willisyou ruined it angasule ! :)03:29
morahola03:30
angasulealonea: try different settings? :?03:30
angasulehola mora03:30
KarriI poked around and now i know which is which03:30
aloneaangasule: well, I tried radeon as a device which no luck, ati doesn't work. haven't tried vga yet. I JUST installed the system and when I go into the system I get a black screen. however, if I goto recovery mode under grub and type in startx, it does go into the system03:31
angasulealonea: I'm sorry, I'm too sleepy for that03:32
Karriangasule: So i set the 2nd card to a static Ip such as (example) 195.168.1.201?03:32
angasuleKarri: err, bad example :)03:32
Dr_willisYep. I recall on my laptop i had issues where kdm started.. but would hang when i went to X. and then later. It would start.. but X would hang on Logout.03:32
Dr_willisPerhaps someday ATi will get some better drivers. :(03:32
aloneaangasule: *sigh* and everything was alllll good with fiesty. evil gusty!03:32
Dr_willisBut my laptop currently has no issues under gutsy (x200m video)  so i cant help ya much there.03:33
angasuleKarri: certain IP addresses are reserved for private use, and won't conflict with internet IP addresses03:33
Dr_williseverything was NOT good for me with Feisty03:33
Dr_willis:)03:33
angasuleDr_willis: they are releasing docs :)03:33
Dr_willisangasule,  oh joy! :() -  how...  Magamanous of them. :)03:33
Karriangasule: i know it was a bad example but just as it was an example and nothing else :)03:33
angasuleKarri: ok, just wanted to be sure you knew about private IPs :)03:34
KarriI got the basic education at me IT school :P03:34
Karriso i think i got something still in my other so air filled head03:35
iecsamhey will KDE disappear if i upgrade version from adept manager03:35
angasuleKarri: you have two heads or I misread that?03:36
schisteHey I have a problem with application/octet-stream on 7.0403:36
Karriangasule: Yeah, their strap on!03:36
schisteif anyone could help me it would be great03:36
GS3User007mkersey: you still around?03:36
schiste(the solutions found on internet didn(t work :( )03:36
angasuleschiste: hmm, yeah, that problem, I had it, don't remember how I fixed it, some MIME thing03:36
Dragnslcrschiste- you'll have to be more specific than that03:37
angasuleKarri: ok, I'm going to bed, too kinky :P03:37
iecsamhaha03:37
Karriangasule: No! please help me *cries*03:37
angasuleKarri: come by tomorrow, it's almost 1am here now :P03:37
schisteerror message is03:37
angasulep[lus, I'mll have my server working again03:37
schisteimpossible to find MIME type03:37
schisteapplication/octet-stream03:38
schistewhen I launch, for exemple, adept-manager03:38
GS3User007alrighty, i've got a question... i was here earlier and found out that apparently my geforce4 mx440 (pci) isn't supported by default. i pulled it out, booted to the onboard video and installed the legacy nvidia drivers03:38
Karriangasule: well i hope i can get it running before that, thanks for the help anyhow!03:39
Angelus this is really intresting, using kubuntu's kernel i get a turned off monitor, using a compiled custom kernel with the same kubuntu kernel config , i get a working bootup splash03:39
GS3User007shut down the compy, put the card back in... and i'm still getting a straight black screen instead of kde03:39
Dr_willisYou are not getting any console/text/boot messages at all?03:39
ardchoilleGS3User007: Did you run "sudo nvidia-glx" ?03:39
angasuleGS3User007: err, you should be able to install with a GF4 mx, it won't look pretty until you install extra drivers, but install should be ok03:40
ardchoilleGS3User007: Sorry, did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" ?03:40
angasuleGS3User007: one thing, I'd disable the onboard video while using the GF4, if you don't need it03:40
Karrimkersey still here?03:40
GS3User007ardchoille: i with into adept manager and installed the nvidia-glx-legacy03:40
GS3User007angasule: it seems to disable itself when the card is installed, plugging the monitor cable into it yields no input03:41
angasuleGS3User007: ok, but I would disable it from the BIOS if possible anyway03:41
Karrisnoggs: still here?03:41
GS3User007after the splash with a progress bar, the screen goes black. it's still getting input, but it's just... black03:41
angasuleGS3User007: and as I said, you should be able to boot the live cd with the GF4, I know plenty of people who have done so03:41
GS3User007i tried the live cd for kubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu. i finally just installed with the kubunut alternate cd03:42
sonicis the gutsy partitioner still qtparted?03:42
ardchoillesonic: On kubuntu, yes03:42
GS3User007it has to be something with the video card... card in = black screen, card out = working03:43
schisteI guess being more specific doesn't really help ;)03:43
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CPrgmSwR2Hi03:43
sonicseems to have been cleaned up a bit then, at least the UI.03:43
snowdonkeyHi.  Where should I put a shell script to be run at startup?03:43
rjonesI've just installed gutsy on an old feisty box and it doesn't work on reboot... grub says "error 15"03:43
inteliwasphow can i make a "fake" file point to a real file? i have a porgram that wants libhamlib.so.2 but i have libhamlib-1.2.4.so.203:44
sonicardchoille: have the kubuntu people picked it up. cause it was badly unmaintained for some time. Im hoping they have. cause it needs it03:44
rjoneswhen I run update-grub (using the install CD) I get "findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=f6600b40-e496-46f0-a91d-3e04a701d531'"  (that's the UUID listed in the grub menu.lst and appears to be correct)03:44
rjonesinteliwasp: you can symlink "ln -s libhamlib-1.2.4.so.2 libhamlib.so.2"03:45
snoggskarri: sorry back...watching scooby doo ><03:45
ardchoillesonic: I have installed qtparted and it works fine in Gutsy03:45
CPrgmSwR2sonic: I hope the kubuntu 3 year release is well polished this time around03:45
CPrgmSwR2well the next release of kubuntu include kde4?03:45
Karrisnoggs: its okey, think you could step by step assist me?03:45
rjonesis there a better place to ask about installation problems?03:46
ubahmapkDr_willis: Thanks!  After the upgrade to gutsy, everything worked perfectly and now freemind works like a charm! :-D03:46
Dr_willis!info freemind03:46
ubotuPackage freemind does not exist in gutsy03:46
Dr_willisWhats freemind? that sounds famiuler03:46
ubahmapkMind mapping03:46
miaviator!freemind03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freemind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:46
ubahmapkit's not in the main repos03:46
miaviator!badbot03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about badbot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:46
ubahmapkhttp://freemind.sf.net03:46
ubahmapkit's an excellent way to collect thoughts on a subject03:47
ardchoillefreemind == kdissert ?03:47
ubahmapkin a graphical way that shows correlations between areas of the subject03:47
sonicardchoille: its been unmaintained for quite some time. years since its had some real work put into it. and kde / QT needs a fully maintained partitioner. qtparted does have some issues03:47
miaviatoralso see vym and kdissert03:47
snoggskarri: sure...trying to figure out private chat so we don't have to fight all these other questions03:47
GS3User007anyone have any advice on my geforce issue?03:47
Dr_willisubahmapk,  ahh.. I dont even see ubuntu packages. :) jyust debian03:47
CPrgmSwR2rjones: still here03:47
miaviatorwhich one03:47
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ardchoillesonic: I didn't know that03:47
sonicardchoille: I was just hoping / wondering if the kubuntu people have picked it up03:47
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: yes03:47
ubahmapkardchoille: not sure.  never heard of kdissert03:47
Karrisnoggs: got an msn? i can use the kopete to connect to my old msn and use that03:48
ardchoille!info kdissert03:48
ubotukdissert: mindmapping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6.c-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 895 kB, installed size 2668 kB03:48
ubahmapkI use freemind b/c I also get stuck on winblows and this works on both, so the files transfer nicely03:48
CPrgmSwR2you need to re-install grub to the MBR, use this command if you installed kubuntu to your master harddrive: grub-install --recheck /dev/hda03:48
ardchoilleubahmapk: nice03:48
GS3User007when kubuntu boots with the video card in, it goes to black instead of showing a desktop, when i pull the card out and use onboard, it loads the desktop fine03:48
ubahmapkardchoille: I like it03:48
GS3User007geforce4 mx440 pci03:48
ubahmapkanywho...it's late and class starts early tomorrow.  Thanks again for all your help! :-)03:49
miaviatorwhat is your xorg driver03:49
Karrisnoggs: cant answer you in private chat, i need to register somehow03:49
miaviatorand what is your onboard card03:49
snoggskarri: copy this /msg nickserv register <your-password>03:49
snoggsand type this into the Ubuntu IRC tab03:49
ardchoille!register | Karri03:49
ubotuKarri: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:49
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda" (I'm on SATA) says "/dev/sda: Not found or not a block device"03:49
GS3User007i have no idea how to figure out what the xorg driver is, and i can figure out the onboard video if you like, but it'll take some time03:50
snoggsGS3: plugging into mainboard card didn't work?03:50
Karriardchoille: how.. wha~? happened?03:50
CPrgmSwR2rjones:  look in /dev03:50
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: should it be /dev/sda3 (the boot partition?)03:50
CPrgmSwR2rjones: yes03:50
GS3User007snoggs: plugging into the motherboard w/out a video card in works, yes03:50
snoggsno luck after that?03:51
iecsamdoes anyone's pc get slow after installing wine?03:51
ardchoilleKarri: The bot sent you info about how to register your nick03:51
snoggsthanks ard03:51
snoggsI should change my nick to linuxpwnsme ><03:51
GS3User007snoggs: i installed the legacy nvidia drivers as someone suggested earlier, but that didn't fix the issue with my video card03:52
Karriardchoille: I still didnt get it, as i might mentioned before i'm a airhead03:52
Dr_willisiecsam,  just installing wine shouldnet slow anything down03:52
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: ok, that ran without error, attempting reboot03:52
snoggshow do I create a channel?03:52
ardchoille!register > Karri03:52
rjones(ps. thanks)03:52
ardchoillesnoggs: Just /join #whatever03:52
ardchoillesnoggs: Just /join #snoggs03:53
snoggsthanks03:53
snoggskarri: do go to the ubuntu irc tab03:53
snoggskarri: then do /join #snoggchat03:53
Karriso i just do that  /msg nickserv register <your-password> in any of the channels?03:53
Karrisnoggs: okey03:53
AmyRoseUh-oh, the 3dchess package requires X11R6 but I have X11R7!03:54
Dr_willisthe 3dchess package has never given me 3d :)03:55
Dr_willisit can play a mean game of chess however03:55
Dr_willisHmm.. cant get freemind working right. bummer03:56
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rjonesCPrgmSwR2: no dice, same error03:57
CPrgmSwR2crap03:57
rjonesindeed03:57
posingaspopularhelp! my computer went crazy! i was doing my usual computer stuff, I clicked konversation and the whole screen went black. i did a hardreboot, started gutsy back up and now everything is running super slow (my mouse, inputting text, starting programs, etc). help!03:57
rjoneswhat's concerning is that the error is in stage 1.5 -- before I even see the menu :(03:58
dhfgi think i uninstalled linux32 on accident03:58
CPrgmSwR2rjones: yeah03:58
CPrgmSwR2error 15: This error is returned if GRUB was expecting to read a numbur and encountered bad data.03:59
Karriardchoille: thanks mate03:59
dhfgim trying to install 23 bit flash for firefox03:59
dhfg32*03:59
ardchoilleKarri: Anytime :)03:59
ardchoille!flash | dhfg03:59
ubotudhfg: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:59
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: yeah. I haven't yet found anything that expands on that description (like, oh, *what* it's reading...)03:59
posingaspopularJucato: if you're around, i could use your expretise right about now04:00
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: so I don't know whether it's an MBR issue or a grub configuration issue, or ...04:00
CPrgmSwR2rjones: how many physical hard drives do you have04:01
ardchoilleposingaspopular: Thee may be others who can help04:01
posingaspopularardchoille: yea but I like Ju- ;p04:01
posingaspopulari just dont know what to do, because I've never seen this happen before04:01
ardchoilleposingaspopular: yeah, Jucato is cool :)04:01
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: three. I just replaced one (old one had errors).04:01
dhfgis it safe to install linux32?04:02
dhfgon a 64bit system?04:02
CPrgmSwR2rjones: which harddrive do you have installed as the first hard drive04:02
CPrgmSwR2because thats where the grub install is suppose to go on04:02
CPrgmSwR2nevermind that04:02
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: hmm. I've had issues with drive ordering before (BIOS vs. Linux) ... maybe even though Linux thinks /dev/sda is the first disk, maybe it's not (it's not listed first by the BIOS)04:02
CPrgmSwR2rjones: yeah but grub is loading04:03
CPrgmSwR2unless it was put there before04:03
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: yeah, but then it stops -- maybe it's loading something from the wrong disk (and getting the error)04:03
rjoneshmmm, *there* is a thought04:03
rjonesno, the disk I'm using to boot now is the same disk I've always used.04:03
CPrgmSwR2inside the case, is it the disk that is set as the primary04:04
rjoneshrm. how can I tell if one of the other disks might have grub installed?04:04
rjonesCPrgmSwR2: according to the BIOS, it's not the first listed disk04:04
CPrgmSwR2Oh that may be the problem04:04
CPrgmSwR2because it has to go on the first listed disk04:05
rjonesyeah, that thought occurred to me too - even though grub is running it's breaking. I'm going to try swapping things around.04:05
rjonesthanks for ideas :)04:05
CPrgmSwR2your welcome04:05
dhfgis it safe to reinstall linux32, if i accidently got ride of it04:06
dhfgrid*04:06
posingaspopularhelp, my computer went black after I clicked on konversation (doing my usual browsing stuff, nothing too extreme) and I had to hard reboot. now everything is runnign super slow, my mouse, programs, etc.04:08
GS3User007posingaspopular: hardware issue maybe?04:08
snoggssomeone explain to me how WoW can work on Window's and Apple Machines...but not here... I thought WoW was OpenGL04:08
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posingaspopularGS3User007: i duno, maybe something wrong with the mem? that is the only thing I can think of, but ive never seen this before, so I duno04:09
Dr_willisI thought WoW could do OpenGL or DirectX04:09
Dr_willisWoW can work with Wine/Cedega04:10
GS3User007posingaspopular: the first thing i guess i would try would be a live cd or two and see if they react the same way04:10
rickeyThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.04:11
dsmith_it can?04:11
dsmith_oh you meant, world of warcraft04:11
dsmith_lol, thought you meant vista04:11
rickeyi know whats worng , i juat dont remember how to get to line 4704:11
posingaspopularGS3User007: the last time i tried to boot a live cd, my cd drive got really angry at me. but thansk for the suggestion, i'll look into it04:11
rickeycan someone refresh my menory04:12
Dr_willisget to it  in what rickey ?04:12
snoggshow do you manipulate the routing table in kubuntu?04:13
snoggslike, what switch lets me see the table?04:13
rickeyi tryed to add something to apt manger that was done wrong04:13
rickeyi need to take out line 4704:13
rickeyi forget what it,s called04:14
Dr_willisfire up an editor.. go down 47 lines?04:14
GS3User007the editor...? the file...?04:14
* Dr_willis is confused by rickey 04:14
snoggsspeaking of...htw do you open a terminal in kubuntu...I'm used to fedora04:14
Dr_willisYour apt.sources is 47 lines long?04:14
snoggsnm04:15
Dr_willissnoggs,  look for the icon  in the menus. :) i alwyas put it in the panel first thing04:15
Dr_willis!info yakuake04:15
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB04:15
* snoggs needs to quit being a retard that asks first and trys later04:15
Dr_willisthats a handy tool also04:15
Nukedanyone know how I can get the latest theora for a faster thoggen (encoding is at like 5 fps)04:15
Dr_willissnoggs,  we are SO used to that kind in here. :)04:15
rickeyill get the error message and bring it back04:15
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snoggsI figured :)04:18
snoggsI wanna change my name to linuxpwnsme   =P04:18
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rickeyThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.04:19
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rickeyand i got another message that said the misstake was on line 4704:20
rickeyhow do i get to line 47 again04:21
Dr_willisdid you try running 'sudo apt-setup' like it says? or check the apt.sources file line 47?04:21
rickey i fixed it the other nigth , but forgot how i got there04:21
Dr_willisfire up a text editor  - sudo editoryoulike /etc/apt/sources.list04:21
rickeyi did nothing happened04:22
Dr_willisGiven the vagueness of this all..  im not suprised. :)04:22
Dr_willisdefine 'nothing'04:22
rickeyrickey@hom-computer:~$ sudo apt-setup04:23
rickeysudo: apt-setup: command not found04:23
rickeyrickey@hom-computer:~$04:23
Dr_willisapt-setup must be a hold over from the debian system days04:24
Dr_willisall it did i thought was generate a new /etc/apt/sources.list file04:24
Dr_williswe got easysource for that! :)04:24
Dr_willis!easysource04:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:24
Dr_williswell night all.04:26
kyronsorry for the obvious newbie question but I don04:27
GS3User007what drivers would anyone suggest i install to make a geforce4 mx440 pci card work?04:27
kyrondon't seem to find the "'update manager "' to upgrade to 7.1004:27
dsmith_!update04:28
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:28
stdinkyron: it helps to follow the Kubuntu instructions rather than the Ubuntu ones ;) this is a friendly upgrade guide: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade04:29
rickeyhow do you get to the command lines that open up apt manager04:29
t3ch13What is the best irc program for Kubuntu04:29
kyronstdin, O__o...now why did I end up on the ubuntu site since I typed Kubuntu.org and clicked on the links :P04:29
rickeyhow do you edit them04:29
GS3User007Konversation isn't bad...04:29
stdinkyron: I blame Mark :p04:30
kyrongnewhehehehe04:30
GS3User007what drivers would anyone suggest i install to make a geforce4 mx440 pci card work?04:30
t3ch13I have been using kvirc and have been pretty impresssed was just curious04:30
hydrogenthere really isn't much difference between gui irc clients04:30
hydrogenat all04:30
el_tacoI'm getting an error with k3b that it doesn't have permission to my drive eventhrough my user is in the cdrom group. I don't see a cdwriter group.04:33
rickeyok this is what ive got to fix04:33
rickeyE: Type 'mediubuntu' is not known on line 47 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list04:33
rickeyE: Unable to lock the list directory04:33
GS3User007what drivers would anyone suggest i install to make a geforce4 mx440 pci card work?04:33
rickeyi need to know how to get to it04:33
rickey i have forgotten04:33
stdin!repeat | GS3User00704:33
ubotuGS3User007: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience04:33
el_tacoGS3User007 old drivers.04:34
kyronI can't believe this...screen-shot driven instructions...04:34
GS3User007'old drivers' is that a package name?04:35
el_tacoVersion: 96.43.0104:35
el_tacooh.. package.04:35
stdinGS3User007: probably nvidia-glx-legacy, if you're in gutsy use the restricted manager from system settings04:36
GS3User007stdin: i've tried both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy... i'm looking for any other suggestions (i have onboard video, so i can switch back and forth installing things04:36
el_tacoyeah.. legacy.. I had a mx4000 I think which is basically the same thing.04:36
stdinrickey: post your sources.list to pastebin and I'll sort it out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:37
utnubukanybody here heard of bumptop?04:37
rickeyi dont remember how04:38
stdinrickey: open it as root so you can edit it: press Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:38
Jucatoposingaspopular: sorry I was terribly away04:38
rickeyok i  remeber this04:40
rickey how do i get it numbered04:40
rickeythe lines04:40
stdinF1104:41
rickeyok04:41
rickeyok that was it04:43
rickeyit,s all ok now04:43
rickey i had one word in there  that was messing it up i fixed it04:43
rickey apt manager opens just fine now04:44
rickeythanks04:44
MurielGodoiHad any11 faced problems in openoffice without toolbar icons in gutsy?04:46
rickeyhey stdin i copyed all the commands down so ill not forget anymore04:47
rickey thanks friend04:47
stdinno problem :)04:47
rickeyyou guy,s are going to turn me into a geek04:48
stdinjoin us, you know you want to ;)04:48
rickeyamen04:48
rickeyyou all have a good nigth04:50
Karririckey: Geek is good.04:50
Karririckey: good night04:50
rickeyyes geek is good04:50
rickeywindow,s is bad04:51
MurielGodoi!windows04:51
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents04:51
MurielGodoihehe04:51
dsmith_lol04:51
rickeyubotu that so like cool04:52
stdinlucky there was no "is" in that sentence04:52
rickeyi changed my mind04:53
rickey i need to fix this proublem   Couldn't find a realvideo shared library for version 404:54
rickeyyou all help me get this04:54
el_tacoanyone have k3b break in gutsy?04:55
Daisuke_Laptoprickey: easy answer: move into the new millenium and leave realplayer in the 90s where it belongs04:56
Daisuke_Laptopbetter answer: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras04:56
MurielGodoi In openoffice.org2.3 under gutsy can see no icon, no layout icons in presentation, and so on... no artworks at all. Any idea?04:56
rickeyhi daisuke04:56
rickey i would but i need it to watch alan watt video,s04:57
rickeyi did daisy but i dont think these was in there04:58
rickeyverison 4 is new04:59
KarriOkey, Been working hard now on getting my computer to route internet-access for another computer. anyone into the networking area of Kubuntu 7.10?05:04
dhfgcorrect me if im wrong, but 'mkdir' is the command to make a directory, is it not?05:05
Karriardchoille: I failed to get registered to netserv, think it could be because i use Kopete?05:05
Karridhfg: i think so05:05
dhfgwhy wont sudo mkdir /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ work05:05
stdindhfg: probably because /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox is a symlink05:06
dhfgthen how would i go about it?05:06
stdindhfg: it points to /usr/lib/firefox and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins should already exist05:07
dhfgstdin: ah, i see05:07
KarriSo no-one here that could try to help me 'bridge' the internet connection?05:08
miaviatoryour bridging an internet connection?05:09
miaviatorusing CLI iptables or firestarter or guidedog05:09
miaviator?05:09
posingaspopularhi, i came in a few minutes ago asking about an issue im having about my comptuer running uber slow, and it's still persisting. anyone around to help? i can elaborate more if anyone wants more details05:09
rickeyok stdin i have a file on the desktop i need to in stall how do i do it05:10
stdinrickey: what type of file?05:10
miaviatordefine slow05:10
rickeym player codecs05:10
stdinrickey: no, what type. like a .tar, a .deb....05:11
hari_hi05:11
rickeymplayer-codecs-extra-20061022-1.i386.rpm05:11
Karrimiaviator: using 2 nics on the 'host' and just patching it trough.05:11
posingaspopularmiaviator: the programs dont load quickly, moving the mouse is laggy, net pages take forever to load. this all started after i clicked on konversation and my screen went black.05:11
stdinrickey: go get a .deb or a .tar.gz. anything but an RPM05:12
Jucatoposingaspopular: laptop or desktop?05:12
rickeyok05:12
rickey thanks05:12
miaviatorposing: running compiz or is everything slow05:12
posingaspopulardesktop, and no desktop effects. everything is slow, including opening folders etc. 2.0 ghz processor05:12
miaviatorkarri:  i gotta go,  for ubuntu firestarter will do it for kubuntu guidedog will do it if not man iptables /masq05:12
posingaspopularJucato: i pinged you earlier when the trouble first started05:13
Jucatoyeah I'm sorry I was out :(05:13
Karrimiaviator: got any idea?05:13
Jucatoposingaspopular: does ksysguard give you any clue? Ctrl+Esc?05:13
stdinrickey: or use the http://www.medibuntu.org repos to install w32codecs  (it is the same as what you're downloading)05:13
posingaspopularwhat am i looking for?05:14
Jucatoanything eating CPU or RAM?05:14
posingaspopularnope. it's all below 1%05:14
Jucatohm...05:15
posingaspopularit's flickering like it's trying to constantly refesh though05:15
posingaspopularlet me check the tree05:15
* Jucato wonders if it's a video card driver problem or something...05:15
posingaspopularno i dont see anything unusual in sysguard05:17
posingaspopularwell irssi is taking forever to launch too05:18
Jucatoweird...05:18
Jucatoreally weird...05:18
eddieftwactually though irssi is running fine, but it might be the GUI/videocard stuff05:19
eddieftw<--- posingaspopular05:19
Jucato:)05:19
Jucatocan you try "glxinfo | grep render" ?05:19
Karriis there seriously no one here that could has some experience within the network aspect of kubuntu?05:20
posingaspopularim going to paste directly into the chan, i hope no one kills me for it05:21
posingaspopularNo (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)05:21
posingaspopularOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:21
Jucatothat could be one problem...05:22
Jucato(although it shouldn't be... free drivers shouldn't be *that* slow or problematic)05:22
virnikdoes somebody know, how to make desktop switcher work correctly with compiz-fusion in gutsy?05:22
virnikupon start, it shows only one destkop view05:22
posingaspopularyea because it only started tonight, and im using an integrated system for everything05:23
Jucatovirnik: that's one reason why we decided not to ship with compiz... compiz and kde don't play together so nicely...05:23
Jucatoposingaspopular: what's your video card?05:23
virniku must right click on it, and change desktops from one to two for example05:23
virnikapply, then again back to one05:23
virnikafter this, I see all my sis desktop views05:23
enojCan anyone recommend a good partition program for kubuntu?05:23
Jucatovirnik: if you don't get an answer here, you can ask for help in #compiz-fusion05:23
Jucatoenoj: I'd have to say GParted (even if it's not a Qt/KDE program)05:24
virnikJucato: grrrrr....really wanna this worked out. with beryl in feisty, i just fiddled with it and it worked out of the box05:24
virnikbut here...05:24
virnikJucato: I have asked there...05:24
Jucato<Jucato> virnik: that's one reason why we decided not to ship with compiz... compiz and kde don't play together so nicely...05:24
virnikstill no response05:24
Jucatohm... might be because it's a sunday night in some parts of the world, or a very early morning05:25
posingaspopularhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42538/ thats my output for lspci05:25
Jucatoposingaspopular: whoa! an intel card shouldn't be giving you problems... and it has open source 3d drivers too.. hm...05:26
virnikJucato: no, with my answer "Jucato: I have asked there..." I mentioned that I have asked in that channel...in #compiz-fusion05:26
virnikit is six here05:26
virnik6:00am05:26
virnikand I am at work from 5:0005:26
Jucatovirnik: yes I know what you meant. but not everyone is up the same time as you are :)05:26
Jucatoasking for support in IRC involves a mixture of patience, timing, and just plain old luck :)05:27
posingaspopularyea it's just running super slow as if there isn't any memory or something05:27
GS3User007i have a geforce4 mx440 pci card (also an onboard intel, i'm having to update the system using this), after the kubuntu splash goes away during boot, the screen goes black. the system is still booting as the sound works05:27
posingaspopularvirnik: you could ask in the ubuntuforums05:27
GS3User007more coming:05:27
posingaspopularthat's pretty timely from my understanding05:27
Jucatoposingaspopular: Alt+Space, kinfocenter, then click on Memory...05:27
virnikJucato: I see05:28
GS3User007i've tried both the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy drivers, making sure to run the enable script. both packages kick out an error that scrolls off the top of my screen, however i am able to catch the following: "server-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration" which presumably reverts the configuration file in charge of video back to its default, also non-working form05:29
GS3User007thoughts?05:29
GS3User007should i hit up the forum?05:29
posingaspopularJucato: don't be condensending to me. just because you're an ubuntu member/kubuntu guru doesn't mean I can't katapult to kinfocenter! ;p05:29
gundam_rx78nt1Has anybody upgraded from Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10?05:30
rickeyok for what i am doing this is the rigth download  all-ppc-20061022.tar.bz205:30
virnikposingaspopular: yes, will do it, thx for suggestions05:30
posingaspopularwhoa it says used physical memory is 45%for total mem. physical memory for free physical memory is 4605:31
posingaspopulargundam_rx78nt1: yes. want help?>05:31
gundam_rx78nt1well, I tried to do it via adept and it hosed up my machine.05:31
virnikhad to restart X05:31
gundam_rx78nt1Is there a way to use another method and get it up and running.05:31
rickeystdin will you help me install this off my desktop05:31
gundam_rx78nt1without losing my setting?05:31
posingaspopulargundam_rx78nt1: it's almost always easier to do it via command line05:31
posingaspopularyes05:31
posingaspopularjust open up a konsole/terminal and run these two commands05:32
posingaspopularsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:32
stdinrickey: it's easier to install the w32codecs package. and you downloaded the PPC version (for macs)05:32
posingaspopularJucato: thoughts?05:33
Jucatoposingaspopular: how physical mem is being used by apps? is swap being used?05:33
rickeystdin the page sent me to this download05:33
posingaspopularswap is 100% free and ps -aux says that the apps aren't using any mem.05:35
rickeyi have installed the 32 codecs packege05:35
posingaspopularwell they are, but an insignifacnt amount05:35
Jucatoposingaspopular: hm... really weird... :(05:35
posingaspopulargundam_rx78nt1: stay in the chan and let me know if anything breaks/you need any more help05:35
gundam_rx78nt1ok05:35
rickey and it wont make mplayer work in the format that was trying to be played05:35
stdinrickey: that package has all the same files as what you would download from that site. it's the same thing but in a package05:35
posingaspopularyea like i said, i've never seen this error/bug before, so I have no idea what to do, which is why i msg'd you05:36
rickeyi dont understand which one on that page is the hole package05:36
rickeywholllle package05:36
Dark_MysticI have a question regarding Beryl and Gutsy.. I updated from Fiesty to Gibbon and it appears my Compiz menu will not open or allow it to be accessed at all. Any idea why it locks up when I attempt to access it?05:37
rickeycan you show me which one is the rigth one05:37
rickeytype the name of05:37
wallyhi05:38
wallyhow do i adjust the screen resolution ?05:38
posingaspopular!X05:38
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:38
rickeyi have the page up05:38
wallythanx05:38
stdinrickey: if you've installed w32codecs, then that's the same as what you download from the site05:40
wallyis there no gui tool to adjust the resolution ?05:40
rickeyfile:///home/rickey/Desktop/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu4_i386.deb05:41
rickeythis is what i installed05:41
rickeybut i dont know if that is the whole package or not05:42
stdinrickey: that's for playing commercial CSS encrypted DVDs05:42
rickeyok so please help get the rigth thing installed please05:43
posingaspopularwally: yes there is, but i cant help with that right now because my computer is also broke05:43
|Toadhow do i install real player?05:43
wallyposingaspopular: so there is hope05:43
rickeyi have the mediubuntu page up\05:43
squarebottleHmm. I'm on the Medibuntu site and I see where it says how to add the gpg keys, but I don't see where it says what the actual repository is that I should be adding to sources.list05:44
posingaspopularwally: yea, but i can't help05:44
wallyi'll snoop around05:44
Jucatowally: System Settings -> Monitor & Display ?05:44
Jucatoposingaspopular: I'm out of clues :(05:44
posingaspopularyea me too, im asking some more people05:45
Jucatoposingaspopular: poke nixternal :)05:45
squarebottleAnybody link me to the page that says where the Medibuntu repository is?05:45
Jucato!medibuntu05:45
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org05:45
Jucatosquarebottle: ^^05:45
squarebottleOk. Thanks. I'm not asking you to add it to the default install.05:46
rickeyi have that page up05:46
squarebottleDo you know where the page is? That's all. There's nothing wrong with linking me to that page.05:46
squarebottleAfterall, Ubuntu does officially support the capability to add other repositories. ;)05:46
squarebottlerickey: Could you provide that link, please?05:46
posingaspopularyea me too, and i tried asking him already. ;p i'll bother him again05:47
rickeyhttp://www.medibuntu.org/index.php05:47
* Jucato wonders if squarebottle didn't see the bot's reply05:47
rickeybut i myself dont see where the whole download is even on this page05:48
squarebottleJucato: Don't be trigger happy. Look, if I were asking for help to install a program from source, that'd be okay even if that program was not stamped by Canonical.05:48
posingaspopularJucato: the processor is 2.66 ghz, not 2.0 to make things stranger05:49
Jucato<squarebottle> Anybody link me to the page that says where the Medibuntu repository is? <--- I gave a reply pointing you to their website.05:49
rickeysquare do you see where the whole download in showen05:49
posingaspopularanyone/anywhere else you could point me to05:49
rickeyon that page05:49
Jucato[13:45] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org05:50
Jucato[13:45] <Jucato> squarebottle: ^^05:50
Jucatoin case, again, you didn't see it that's the medibuntu website05:50
squarebottleJucato, go to that page yourself!05:50
JucatoI am there.05:51
Jucatoand?05:51
squarebottleSee where on that page the repository is listed?05:51
squarebottle;)05:51
Jucatodid you go to the "Repository Howto" link?05:51
squarebottleI've searched that page and the repository how-to for "deb" even to try to find it.05:51
squarebottleJucato: You bet I have.05:51
JucatoUbuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon": sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list05:52
squarebottleThat is for the gpg key.05:52
Jucato"Below are the instructions to add the Medibuntu repository to your system's list of APT repositories. "05:52
Jucatooh you are so wrong05:52
JucatoThen, add the GPG Key: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update05:52
posingaspopularJucato: i just ran htop and my mem usage is WAY up there05:52
Jucato*that* is for the GPG key ^^^05:52
Jucatocan you please read more carefully before trying to lambast people who try to actually help you?05:53
squarebottleThat doesn't at all follow the format of the rest of the things in sources.list05:53
Jucatohave you actually tried to do it first?05:53
squarebottleDidn't mean to lambast you, mate. Sorry. Just got told by a few other people that they wouldn't help because it wasn't official before I came here, so I'm sorry I jumped the gun on ya.05:53
Jucatobecause it adds a special repository called "gutys.list" into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/05:54
Jucatomedibuntu.list I mean05:54
Jucatoand that directory acts as an addon repository, just as if you were adding some deb lines in sources.list05:54
squarebottleReally? That's interesting. I wonder why they didn't follow the regular repository format like they used to.05:55
Jucatohttp://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list <-- can you take a look at what that contains?05:55
Jucatoit does follow the regular repository format.05:56
Jucatobut there's nothing that says you can't have more than one *.list file05:56
squarebottleI mean like, putting up the repository for people to add to their sources.list like most repositories, instead of having a whole special thing. I'm used to editing my sources.list is what I'm saying.05:57
* Jucato shrugs05:57
Jucatoposingaspopular: really sorry I have no clue05:58
squarebottleJucato: Don't get me wrong. This is fine too. Just completely threw me off since it's not really the normal way of adding repositories. Anyway, thanks for the help, and again, sorry for getting defensive so quick.05:59
Jucatoyou could have at least *tried* it first05:59
posingaspopularit's cool, thansk for the help. im going to post this under hardware in the ubuntuforums if you want to keep up to date05:59
squarebottleI did. I just didn't see any real confirmation, and thought it was just the gpg key.05:59
ubuntumorning guys ! or maybe good evening!06:00
ubuntui try live cd kubuntu 7.10 and no one of my partitions is not mounted and can;t be mounted06:00
ubuntu after install that partitions could become mountable ?06:01
squarebottleJucato: I'm happy to say it a third time: I'm sorry I was short-tempered. Thank you for the help. Good night.06:02
* Jucato should have been short tempered too... :(06:03
posingaspopularJucato: thanks for  all the effort, i appreciate it06:06
Jucatoposingaspopular: I feel bad not knowing the answer to your problem though :/06:06
posingaspopularhaha it's cool, it is almost surely my broken HD that's going to be fixed in a few days anyeay06:07
posingaspopularthat's the only other thing that might be doing it, but im not sure06:07
posingaspopularif thats no the issue than i'll file a bug report06:08
KarriSo anyone here that want to help me experiment with network connections?06:14
GS3User007hello there... is anyone around?06:24
LastMallthere's always someone around on the internet06:25
GS3User007heh06:25
GS3User007fair enough06:25
GS3User007any idea why "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" wouldn't change the device identifier or busid fields in xorg.conf?06:26
jaguar_hi ppl, could anybody tell me how to install aiglx on kubuntu 7.10? please06:29
jaguar_hi... nobody? =(06:33
LastMallpatience06:33
LastMallis it different than installing it on 7.04 ?06:34
jaguar_^_^06:34
jaguar_i guess so, because i cant find it on the repositories06:34
jaguar_and in fact I had it by default on 7.04, but now i have this slow xgl...06:35
LastMalljaguar_  starting with the 3rd link, anything look promising ? http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=ER3&q=kubuntu+7.10+install+aiglx&btnG=Search06:35
jaguar_mmm most of the results are for 7.04 -   =(06:40
jaguar_no luck...06:41
chovyhow come restart or shutdown -r now doesn't restart the machine?06:42
hangthedjtry reboot06:43
chovyi did, it won't reboot when i type it remotely, only from desktop.06:43
carrancahi, the other day i tried to upgrade to gusty gibbon and after the initial install it required me to install/update 500+ packages, the problem is that im getting the following error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.06:43
hangthedji think by default, only root can reboot the machine or shut it down remotely06:44
chovyhangthedj: so sudo reboot won't work.06:44
chovywhen i did a dist-upgrade xorg + ati stopped working. Now i just get a blank asscreen06:45
chovyany suggestions?06:45
hangthedjchovy, hmm, not sure, i just rebooted one of my machines remotely with sudo reboot.06:45
chovyit is like kdm isn't starting.06:46
chovyhow do i su root? I don't know hte password06:48
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Jucato!sudo | chovy06:48
ubotuchovy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:48
chovyfor rebooting thoguh06:49
chovyor how do i reload kdm06:49
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (from tty, Ctrl+Alt+F1)06:50
Jucato(make sure you're logged out of KDE06:50
chovyctrl+alt+f1 doesn't get me into a shell06:51
chovyand ctrl+backspace doesn't kill it either06:51
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chovythis is very frustrating. how can i even debug this without a console?06:54
GS3User007boot into recovery from grub?06:55
gundam_rx78nt1posingaspopular: sorry I didn't get back with you. I was trying to get my network (wirless) up and going. Converting from automatic settings managed by knetwork manager to static is hard (for me it is).06:56
chovybut then i don't get net06:56
chovyi need to just boot into prompt06:56
gundam_rx78nt1my computer is just staring to do the updat.06:56
chovyall i get is a blank screen, can someone help?06:57
gundam_rx78nt1posingaspopular: are you still here?06:57
GS3User007chovy: i think there might be a boot option you can add in grub so that it stops before it attempts to launch the gui, i don't know what it is though06:59
gundam_rx78nt1I am trying to update my laptop with kubuntu 7.10 from 7.04. I did the apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and get the following error:07:00
gundam_rx78nt1Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:00
chovyheh07:00
chovyat least you get something07:00
swined`gundam_rx78nt1: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:01
chovynow i'm being cynical07:01
gundam_rx78nt1It was while processing acpi-support.07:01
chovyyeah, i got a bunch of acpi issues too.07:01
chovydpkg --configure -a should fix that07:01
gundam_rx78nt1swined`: after that?07:01
chovyfunny, remove xorg.conf completely, and it loads up.07:02
swined`gundam_rx78nt1: after apt fails07:02
gundam_rx78nt1swined`: i did run the dpkg -- configure -a and it fails when trying to setup acpid.07:04
swined`gundam_rx78nt1: what exactly it says when fails?07:04
virnikhey07:04
npurcifulhey whats up07:04
virniksolved problem with kicker"07:04
virnikand compiz07:04
virnikhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kicker-compiz?content=4602107:04
virnikjust use kicker-compiz07:04
virnikand everything is OK07:04
gundam_rx78nt1it say acpi-support depends on acpid(>=1.0.4-1ubuntu4); however: package acpid is not configured yet.07:06
gundam_rx78nt1after that are faild dependancy processes and then fails with an error code (1).07:07
awaghello07:07
npurcifulOkay so i am wondering about the new encrypt full hard feature, i do a install setup manual lvm with /home on separtate partition and I later need to reinstall, is there a way to get the ubuntu installer to see the lvm and not wipe out all the partitions07:08
awagdoes anyone have experience with mounting another hard drive as one's home directory?07:08
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow come when i watch a mpeg video with vlc player on mozilla it always says no video07:08
npurcifulawag: i mount another hdd as my home07:09
virnikgundam_rx78nt1: apt-get -f install07:09
awagnpurciful, i'm trying to mount my /dev/hdb1 to /home/myhomedir/ but then when i try to log in, it gives me some error about kdesettings couldn't start, and it won't let me log in, any ideas?07:09
gundam_rx78nt1virnik: still get the same error code.07:10
chovydang07:10
chovystill no dice on login07:10
npurcifuldid you move you profile with the same permissions07:10
gundam_rx78nt1I really hate this.07:11
npurcifulthat really didnt make sense07:11
npurcifulawag: i go to recovery from grub menu07:12
awagnpurciful, i'm not exactly sure what all i did, copied my old home from a previous install that had gone bad, onto the root of another hard drive, and then i installed 7.10 fresh onto a different drive, and then i want to be able to mount my old home dir, and have it work as my new home07:12
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwhat video output should i use on mplayer?07:12
awagnpurciful, it stops giving me the login error if i just umount hdb1 from home, and let it use the first hdd07:13
npurcifulI never tried to reuse a profile i just create a new and copy files over07:14
npurcifulsound like the permissions or files are missing07:14
AT0M1CB0MB3RSOMEBODY ANSWER ME07:14
AT0M1CB0MB3Rits a easy question07:15
AT0M1CB0MB3Rplease answer07:15
awagnpurciful, yeah i don't need to reuse my old profile, i just want to be able to, when i write to /home/myhomedir/ the files to go to my other harddrive, not the master drive07:15
awagnpurciful, even when i tried copying all the new files that are in the new home that was created by the install, to my old home, and mounting that, it still gave me an error07:16
npurcifuli just cp -vrp /home/* /<device>07:16
awagwhat does p do?07:17
npurcifulthe -p preserves permissions and links and such07:17
awagah07:17
Q-collectivehello all, could anyone help me out by getting my onboard realtek HD sound to work? I have managed to let Kubuntu see the card, alsamixer is now giving meaningfull output, but still no sound whatsoever :(07:17
awagnpurciful, so i should mount my other hdd on like /mnt or something, and then cp it like you said, and then i should be able to mount it on my home dir without problems?07:19
npurcifulyeah that what i do07:19
iecsamhi07:20
awagnpurciful, ok i'll try it, thanks alot man07:20
npurcifulnp07:20
iecsamcan anyone tell me if i can install ubuntustudio applications in kubuntu?07:20
chovyi get some error about no resume image?07:25
virnikthat damned compiz kicker is not working as I suspected07:26
awagnpurciful, sweet i think that worked :)07:26
virniktransparent views are so transparent, that I cant see them07:26
npurcifulgood07:26
virnikwhat is more, I like two rows of six desktops, so I have six desktops in two rows by three07:27
virnikand here....six in line07:27
virnikdamn07:27
AT0M1CB0MB3Rvirnik: i wish i could get compiz working corectly07:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbut even if i did i would be bored with it in about a minute07:28
chovyme too AT0M1CB0MB3R07:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rlol07:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rsame wiff alot of peope07:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rple07:29
chovyPCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 000:00:00007:34
chovywtf?07:34
virnikit works correctly for me07:37
virnikthis is only last problem07:37
Karrianyone here that has a clue how to get an ATI graphics card driver from the ATI Homepage?07:44
KarriInstalled of course.07:45
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: you dont want to install that one07:45
Karriokey, why is that?07:46
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: have you tried restricted drivers for your card?07:46
KarriI have not, As i just recently started to use my kubuntu again07:46
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AT0M1CB0MB3Rwant me to help you install them07:46
AT0M1CB0MB3R?07:46
chovyKarri: i'm having same problem. ati doesn't work anymore after upgrade07:46
KarriSure atom07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri have a 955007:47
Karriwould be great07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rok07:47
Karrii have a 9600 pro07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryeah ALOT of people had problems with that card07:47
Karrimy biggest trouble is lack of information and experience07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: go to system settings07:47
KarriThere07:48
Fleckwhat's the best way to copy files through internet? (need to mount remote fs...)07:48
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: then click the advanced tab at the top07:48
Karrithere07:49
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: then you should see restricted drivers07:49
AT0M1CB0MB3Rclick that07:49
KarriI'm using a swedish version so i'll try to find it07:50
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KarriDoes the icon look like a small cirquit chip?07:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryeah07:50
Karricheck, i'm there07:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhuh?07:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Rcheck?07:50
Karrimilitary speak, (okey i'm there)07:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwell click administrator mode07:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rat the bottom07:51
Karridone07:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rthen click the little check box07:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rto enable the driver07:51
Karriokey07:51
AT0M1CB0MB3Rthen after thats done you should restart07:51
Karriokey07:52
AT0M1CB0MB3Rso see you when you get back07:52
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: are you going to restart?07:54
chovywell, i can't explain it...my xorg no longer works no matter what i try.07:54
KarriSee ya07:54
chovyapparently, renaming X11 to xorg did not include code improvements. :P07:54
AT0M1CB0MB3Rchovy: have you tried to reconfigure it with this command "sude reconfigure xorg-xserver"07:55
AT0M1CB0MB3Roops that command wont work07:56
AT0M1CB0MB3Rsudo07:56
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KarriOkey atom i'm back07:57
chovyAT0M1CB0MB3R: yup...no dice07:58
KarriNow i will retry my launching of WoW07:58
KarrixD07:58
chovyi'm just going to re-install08:00
chovywould've been quicker to begin with.08:00
KarriNo luck08:01
KarriMy graphic went crazy, hahaha08:01
chovyi think something changed08:01
chovyre-ascerts my belief that linux is a great server.08:01
chovyfor everything else, there's Mac08:01
Karriatomic?08:03
krautmoin08:03
KarriGot any other smart ideas? :)08:03
cptnspoongday all, really simple one, before I upgraded to Gutsy the Kubuntu Auto Updater seemed to stop loading on start up, I thought the upgrade would fix it but it didnt...any ideas how to get it back?08:05
AT0M1CB0MB3RKarri: thats all that i have08:11
AT0M1CB0MB3R:[08:11
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i login using su08:19
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jensg43hi08:21
hannes3hi08:22
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viktor_is it possible to install microsoft office on linux08:33
wielohi all08:33
squarebottleHey, what can I enter into a run dialogue to access the settings manager?08:33
viktor_108:34
viktor_108:34
viktor_is it possible to install microsoft office on linux08:34
wieloviktor -> possible yes but with what effect i can't tell08:34
viktor_how would i do it normal install from cd08:34
wieloi never do it before but mayby wine can?08:35
viktor_wine can..?08:35
wielohttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=3108:36
viktor_can we install games on kubuntu08:36
emilsedghviktor_: yes there are many games for Kubuntu, what kind of game do you like?08:37
wielohah08:37
viktor_i wanna install cryisis08:37
wieloomfg08:37
viktor_i got it on dvd08:37
viktor_whats wrong08:37
wielomayby cedega can? (cedega -- an emulator)08:37
wielobut crysis is so new08:38
viktor_where can i find cedega08:38
emilsedghviktor_: if thats a windows game, you should search for it in wine website, but there are many games for linux that run on kubuntu08:38
gnominstall good browser help!08:38
viktor_i want crysis lol08:38
gnomhelp :)08:38
squarebottle_viktor_: It sounds to me like you probably want to dual-boot.08:38
viktor_ahh but thats so hrd to go08:39
viktor_do08:39
wielognom: want good browser? :P08:39
gnom:)08:39
squarebottle_viktor_: Hey, mind if I ask how old you are?08:39
viktor_how do i make an partition from the hard drive im already usin make it ntfs08:39
viktor_2008:39
wieloopera?08:39
viktor_almost08:39
gnomcan not install opera08:40
anrafcerhello folks108:40
wielowhy? 64-bit?08:40
gnomif you can give me a link to download right version?08:40
viktor_dual boot is bigges hastle cant i just get emulator08:40
wieloehm... there's no 64-bit ver of opera ;/08:41
squarebottle_viktor_: Alright. Well, dual-booting is actually pretty easy. It's easiest if you install windows first and then Ubuntu. See, the thing is that "serious gamers" typically dual boot because it's very, very rare that the games run through emulators perform nearly as well.08:41
wielothe all rest u've got here: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?custom=yes08:41
corporeallol08:42
anrafcerwhen I use adept to install a program, I receive this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42541/ ; I tried to set permission with xhost or reconfigure debconf but didnt work, anybody can help me? thanks08:42
viktor_so i have to install windows and then ubuntu08:42
viktor_farrrrkk08:42
viktor_such a hastle08:43
viktor_and how do i partion the drive just use the kubuntu to do it for me on install08:43
squarebottle_viktor_: Do you have to? No, you don't. I just think that's the easiest way, personally.08:43
viktor_okai but do i use the kubuntu partion it for me how much do i need for kubuntu about just to run affect and internet and etc nothing crazy mayb like 20 gig..?08:44
squarebottle_viktor_: Well, if you'd like to know a bit about partitioning, I actually wrote a guide for a friend of mine. http://www.geekperspective.com/blog/archives/9808:44
squarebottle_viktor_: You can just go down to the part about partitioning if that's what you care about, heh.08:45
viktor_oh kool i can do all that easy i just dont how to get windows to start first08:45
gundam_rx78nt1Ok. now I am really angry.  I tried to upgrade my laptop to Kubuntu 7.10 and it failed to update giving me an error dpkg error code (1). this was given during the update process of acpid.08:45
wieloviktor: u must change it in /boot/grub/menu.lst08:46
viktor_easy to change..?08:46
wielothere is a list of system and u must cut windows into first place08:46
anrafcernobody can give me an advice?? yuhu! :)08:46
viktor_thats it cut the windows line ontop of linux and doen08:46
gundam_rx78nt1Now, I can boot up into kubuntu 7.10 but I can't get my network to work. the drivers aren't found and it doesn't load the ipw3945 drivers.08:46
squarebottle_anrafcer: Never seen that one. Sorry. For that, you can ask in #ubuntu too if you'd like08:47
wielohem... my father now how to do it so... i think it;s teasy08:47
viktor_fair enuf08:47
wieloheh08:48
wieloanybody tested ext4?08:48
gundam_rx78nt1how can I fix it?08:48
squarebottle_gundam_rx78nt1: Do you know what wireless card you have and all that jazz?08:48
gundam_rx78nt1the intel ipw3945ABG pro.08:49
anrafcersquarebottle_: ok, thanks08:49
squarebottle_gundam_rx78nt1: Well, hmm. I'm pretty sure that should work out of the box. Do you know whether or not it worked in a previous version of of Ubuntu?08:50
gundam_rx78nt1It was working wonderfully with 7.04 now that the upgrade of 7.10 failed during the setting up of acpid, it doesn't find my network card nor driver.08:50
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squarebottle_Shoot. Does anybody remember the command to continue installing packages?08:51
Angelusemerge --resume ?08:53
AngelusLoL08:53
Angelussquarebottle: try sudo apt-get install --fix-missing08:54
wielohmm... in my apt it's go same when i done "apt-get install" :P08:54
squarebottlegundam_rx78nt1: Hehehe, try sudo apt-get install --fix-missing. :P08:55
squarebottleAngelus: Thanks. :D08:55
Angelusnp squarebottle08:56
squarebottleAngelus: If it turns out that I'm just thinking of Gentoo, then I'm going to cry softly for my dear, dear friend gundam_rx78nt108:56
Angelusi didnt understand squarebottle (2days awake) , explain08:57
squarebottleAngelus: You made a gentoo reference, which made me wonder if I was thinking of a feature that gentoo offered but not Ubuntu. That's all.08:58
Angelusahh08:58
Angelusok08:58
squarebottleI think the debian based distros can resume as well. I hope so.08:59
Angelusi dunno08:59
Angelusthe only think i know is fix-missing08:59
squarebottleWell, hopefully it'll do the trick. I was asking on behalf of gundam_rx78nt109:00
Angelusim going, to sleep09:00
gundam_rx78nt1no, it didn't do the trick.09:00
Angelusgundam_rx78nt1: my bad duDe09:00
gundam_rx78nt1I am really thinking of going back to gentoo.09:01
AngelusLoL09:01
squarebottlelol09:01
Angelus:p09:01
Angelusthere's one feature i like on gentoo09:01
Angelusthat ubuntu doesn't have09:01
Angeluslatest software!!!!!09:01
Netkiller3714rawr?09:01
Netkiller3714so says danny500 XD09:01
squarebottleGentoo has a lot of great things that no other distro has. I'll leave it at that out of respect for #kubuntu, lol09:01
gundam_rx78nt1I tried to do the upgrade as on the kubuntu.org web page and it failed half way through. now it doesn't detect my audio card and my wireless.09:02
Netkiller3714Jucato you awake?09:02
Jucatobarely. yes?09:02
gundam_rx78nt1doesn't even load the drivers for neitherof them.09:02
Angelusgentoo is nice and intresteng  the way it installs and manages the system with use flags and shyte, butt no good for inpatiant potheads that break out there system everyday, thats why i moved to kubuntu, and because im a KDE lova'09:02
squarebottlegundam_rx78nt1: If you can, here's what I'd do. Transfer all the files you care about to another computer on your network so that you can do a fresh install. You can use  ssh if you've got openssh-server installed on the server to be receiving the files.  And dolphin is good for setting up ssh connections.09:03
Angelusanywayz, im out, night/mornin/noot, peace.09:03
* Angelus gone09:03
squarebottleCiao09:03
gundam_rx78nt1is there any way to restart the upgrade process?09:04
Netkiller3714sup man?09:04
squarebottlegundam_rx78nt1: Not that I know of. Sorry I'm not more help. You can definitely try asking in #ubuntu though, as this is not kde specific09:04
squarebottleHeck, you can ask in #xubuntu if you really want, lol.09:04
squarebottleThe solution, if it exists, will be equally relevant to all flavors of Ubuntu, I strongly suspect.09:05
Netkiller3714squarebottle: are you having a problem with Ubuntu?09:05
Netkiller3714oh wait nvm09:06
squarebottleNetkiller3714: :)09:06
squarebottleNetkiller3714: But thanks for asking. :D09:06
Netkiller3714gundam_rx78nt1: yes open the task manager and end the process "synaptic"09:06
squarebottleAlright, my eyes are beginning to droop thanks to el sleep meds, so I'm out. Night everybody.09:07
Netkiller3714peace09:07
Netkiller3714el sleep meds XD09:07
squarebottle;)09:07
Netkiller3714;)09:07
Netkiller3714my eyes are starting to droop because of el no sleep o09:08
cptnspoongday all, really simple one, before I upgraded to Gutsy the Kubuntu Auto Updater seemed to stop loading on start up, I thought the upgrade would fix it but it didnt...any ideas how to get it back?09:08
Netkiller3714gday mate09:08
cptnspoonNetkiller3714: Hey :)09:09
Netkiller3714Gutsy or Gusty?09:09
cptnspoonNetkiller3714: Uhh, Gutsy...that's what I said isn't it?09:10
Netkiller3714cptspoon, the settings for the Auto Updater might be set to only update when you tell it to. Have you checked the settings for it yet?09:10
cptnspoonNetkiller3714: Would if I could but I'm not even sure where it is...that's the problem09:11
Netkiller3714brb09:11
Jucatocptnspoon: press Ctrl+Esc and see if adept_notifier is running09:12
Netkiller3714wait, is Gutsy the one after feisty?09:12
Jucatoyes09:12
Netkiller3714O_O OMG I'VE BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK!09:13
cptnspoonJucato: Ahh, thanks...nope it isn't09:13
Netkiller3714maybe thats why my nick is Patrick :P09:13
JucatoAdept Updater doesn't really start on login. it is Adept Notifier that does that09:13
virnikdamn....i have problem with K3b09:13
Netkiller3714whats up?09:13
virnikit writes CD09:13
virnikbut cant read it09:13
virnikin windows, in linux, nowhere09:13
virnikcan somebody help me out?09:13
cptnspoonJucato: Well it was starting on startup but it isn't now...how do I get it back there? Sorry for the simple question09:14
Jucatocptnspoon: Alt+F2, enter "adept_notifier". it should autostart when you log back in09:14
virniki am talking about iso image09:14
Netkiller3714I'm checking up on it09:14
cptnspoonJucato: Oh, actually running it while I'm still in X gave me a popup message to reenable it upon startup. Cool! Thanks for the help!09:15
Jucatovirnik: how did you burn it in k3b? what action did you choose?09:15
Netkiller3714virnik, how's vodaphone treat'n ya?09:15
Netkiller3714vodafone*09:16
virnikJucato: burn CD ISO09:16
virnikNetkiller3714: fine, using it from dry run few years ago09:16
Netkiller3714nice09:16
virnikJucato: i just chosen BURN CD IMAGE ISO09:16
virnikJucato: iso is OK, i have written it under windows in nero, and works.09:17
Netkiller3714what formate?09:17
Netkiller3714format* argh09:17
virnikbut k3b destroyed three CDs09:17
virnikin feisty, it worked fine09:17
sonoftheclayrHey all, how is everyone? I just upgraded to gutsy and it works! So does the graphics card, which is great! Anyway, I've got vga=791 appended to the end of the line in grub's menu.lst but it doesn't change the size of the terminal like it did in feisty. Anything I can do to get it to work?09:18
virnikafter upgrade from feisty to gutsy, it says everything is OK, and CD is ejected with success, but cant read it09:18
the-ermvirnik: that doesn't sound right.09:18
Netkiller3714maybe it's something to do with k3b running on Gutsy. maybe do a re-install?09:19
virniksonoftheclayr: just comment out blacklisted vesa and vesafb16 modules and restart09:19
the-ermI wonder what's different, that would cause that to happen.09:19
virnikthe-erm: no, it does not09:19
virnikso it is why I am asking09:19
virnikthe-erm: dont know, but my burner is useless now09:20
the-ermNot that I know how to do it, but have you thought about running a command line burning program.  I forget the name ... cdrao ??09:20
Netkiller3714what are you trying to burn?09:20
sonoftheclayrvirnik: like in /etc/modules or something?09:21
virnikit is really stupit...i feal like dirtybag, cos I must use windaz at my workplace, to do job which is normally easy to do in my loved laptop!09:22
virnikcan somebody help me out_09:22
virnik?09:22
the-ermNot that anyone cares ... I finally got lirc running :)09:22
Netkiller3714I care09:22
Netkiller3714<309:22
Netkiller3714lol09:22
virnikNetkiller3714: ubuntu server iso09:23
Netkiller3714lol some one a while back told me the Kubuntu has absolutely nothing to do with Ubuntu09:23
Netkiller3714"Kubuntu is an official derivative of Ubuntu using the KDE environment instead of GNOME." lol09:23
Netkiller3714the Server edition  of the new Ubuntu?09:23
virniksonoftheclayr: modules are fine09:23
virnikk3b runs diagnostic, everything is fine with CDs or DVDs burned under other PC09:24
Netkiller3714virnik, ever try doing it using a virtual machine?09:24
virnikNetkiller3714: yes, but I have failed with many different isos09:24
Netkiller3714argh09:24
the-ermHonestly I don't think there's anything majorly different about the distros other than their windowing system.09:24
virnikNetkiller3714: under VM with windoze, everything works09:25
Netkiller3714I can't find anything about it :'(09:25
the-ermvirnik: how fast are you burning it at?  I usually burn at about 16x max.  Just because I've seen what happens when they go too fast on mythbusters :)09:26
the-ermWhen I *really* care about the image I do 8x.09:26
Netkiller37141x lol09:26
virnikthe-erm: 24x09:27
the-ermOf course you're talking to someone who burns less than 1 cd a year.09:27
Netkiller3714O_O that might be why lol09:27
Netkiller3714haha09:27
Netkiller3714*crickets*09:28
the-ermIt wouldn't hurt to try and burn at a lower speed.09:30
Netkiller3714lol 24 is a bit tarded.09:30
virnikis there some app which will allow me to set k3b again? or do you know where k3b stores its config file?09:30
virnikthe-erm: what? r ya crazy? never. what is more, i already tryed09:31
virnikthat slowdown teared me half of hour, and nothing...still the same09:31
virnikso, where k3b stores config? I will delete it, and startup k3b again, it shall ask for all config again09:31
the-ermmaybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b ?09:31
Netkiller3714lol don't mean to laugh but how many blanks have you used up playing around with k3b?09:32
the-ermI think it's somewhere in .kde09:32
the-ermto be more specific ~/.kde09:32
Netkiller3714may be home/user/.k3b09:32
Netkiller3714.kde *09:32
virnikI have already deleted them09:33
virnikso...lets see09:33
virnikbut I will use cd-rw this time09:33
Netkiller3714>_<09:34
virnikdont want to destroy another verbatim09:34
virnik^|^09:35
the-erm~/.kde/share/apps/k3b and ~/.kde/share/config/k3brc09:35
the-ermThose seem to be the only 2 config files.09:36
virnikstrange09:38
virnikjust fired up diagnostic09:38
virnikor...simply k3b in console, and tryed my toasted CD09:38
virnikif somebody interested and can help, just visit http://wow.fakaheda.eu/uploads/jine/virnik/k3b.txt09:43
virnikit is run log of k3b with this medium09:43
the-ermSorry no freaking clue.09:44
virnikhmmm09:44
virniklost again09:44
virnikdamned gutsy...with feisty, everything was working, and now...nothing09:45
WaltzingAlongvirnik: my guess is that you put gutsy on there09:45
virnikor yes,everything is working, because I fixed it, but here...i have no clue09:45
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virnikWaltzingAlong: what are you talking about?09:47
WaltzingAlongtalking about feisty to gutsy09:47
the-ermYou know the transition to gusty was a little more ruff than it was to feisty for me as well.09:48
the-ermI ended up doing a complete re-install.09:48
the-erm-- I can get a .com up and running in less than a day with backups :)09:48
virnikdamn09:52
virnikyes, i have made update, so upgraded from feisty to gutsy09:53
virnikand now my burner dont work at all, after that playing with k3b09:55
virnikhm09:55
virnikgonna reset09:55
virnikkernel shall reset that drive, hdparm does not help09:55
Q-collectivehello all, could anyone help me out by getting my onboard realtek HD sound to work? I have managed to let Kubuntu see the card, alsamixer is now giving meaningfull output, but still no sound whatsoever :(10:00
the-ermQ-collective: ok, let's start with simple things ... is the power on, is it plugged in?10:01
the-ermIs it plugged in to the right output :)10:01
Q-collectivethe-erm: it's the speakerstuff on my laptop ;)10:02
the-ermWhat does kmix say your volume is.  With my audigy, the master volume on the "record" section controls the volume.10:02
Q-collectivethe-erm: it's set to the max10:03
the-ermok how about mute :)10:04
Q-collectivethat it isn't10:04
Q-collective;)10:04
the-ermIs the wave volume up on the mixer?10:05
the-ermHow about the pcm volume?10:05
Q-collectiveall up10:05
the-ermOk this may sound wierd type something like ls -l >/dev/dsp10:06
the-ermit'll sound like static if it's working10:06
the-ermOk one other stupid thing ...10:07
the-ermDo you belong to the group audio?10:07
Q-collectivehmm, that would require oss emulation to be working, does kubuntu do that?10:07
Q-collectiveand yes10:07
the-ermWell mine has /dev/dsp10:07
Q-collectivehmm10:08
Q-collectiveit says the source is busy10:08
Q-collectiveodd10:08
the-ermI wonder if sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart would fix it.10:08
the-ermhow long has it been since you rebooted Q-collective10:09
Q-collectiveUptime: 2 hours and 57 minutes10:10
Q-collectiveabout that10:10
the-ermKubuntu does some weird stuff when it comes to sound.  I edited /etc/modules.d/alsa-utils recently and had to reboot because /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart didn't load modules ....10:10
Q-collectiveweird10:10
the-ermI was trying to enable the IR sensor on my audigy.  Which required editing of that file.10:11
the-ermTook me 2 days to find that 1 line.10:11
the-ermAt any rate ... I'd try rebooting, and see if that fixes the problem.  I know it's a "windows" solution, but it does seem to help in some cases.10:12
the-ermIt bothers me ... I'm giving this advice.10:12
Q-collectivenah, doesn't10:12
the-ermI thought the same thing ... until I did it, and it actually worked.10:12
WaltzingAlongwould doubt that would help10:12
WaltzingAlongand if it did we still would not know the cause or remedy10:13
Q-collectivethat too10:13
the-ermrestarting alsa-utils doesn't load modules.10:13
the-ermOr set the options.10:13
the-ermThat's the problem.10:13
Q-collectivewell, I didn't edit that, in this session10:13
the-ermdid you try restarting alsa?10:14
WaltzingAlonganything of interest in dmesg ?10:14
Q-collectivewhy would I try to restart alsa if I didn't touch it?10:14
jpa_hi everybofy10:14
jpa_d10:14
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: good idea10:15
the-ermBecause you have a hung sound.10:15
WaltzingAlongcould also reconfigure kde's sound system; from autodetect to alsa or to oss10:15
the-ermThere's an idea ...10:15
the-ermI though about that, just forgot to type it.10:16
konaya...hm, does this channel use any kind of queuing system, or is it okay to just type ones problem?10:16
WaltzingAlongso far just type your question10:16
konayaokay10:16
konayaI can't get my memory card reader to work.10:16
the-ermkonaya: I believe that qualifies as asking to ask.10:16
konayaALMOST10:16
WaltzingAlongan hmm based bot may be underway10:16
WaltzingAlonganyway10:17
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: already have it on alsa10:17
the-ermWhat does ls /dev/sd* show?10:17
jpa_i have problems when i run dolphin as root with the sudo command. even when i just copy or delete something for e.g in /usr then it always changes some permissions in my home folder. is there a way to solve this problem?10:17
konayaSee, when you boot kubuntu with a memory card already inserted, it works fine.10:17
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: could switch it to autodetect or disable the kde sound system10:17
WaltzingAlongjpa_: do not run dolphin with sudo. use either kdesu or kdesudo10:17
the-ermjpa_: I'm a command line junkie ... sorry.10:17
jpa_what is the differnce @  WaltzingAlong ?10:18
WaltzingAlong!kdesu | jpa_10:18
ubotujpa_: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do NOT use "sudo"; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo10:18
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: nothing either :(10:18
jpa_thanks @ the-erm10:18
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: what does aplay -l show you?10:18
jpa_ok thanks @ WaltzingAlong and ubotu10:19
konayaUpon inserting a card, dmesg shows nothing. The reader has support in kubuntu, because it works when booting with a cad inserted.10:19
konaya*card10:19
jpa_i used gnome before and i always used to run sudo so i have to change my behavior :)10:19
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.com/m528764d110:20
WaltzingAlongjpa_: even with gnome you should have been using gksu <guiapp>10:20
konaya...anyone? :/10:20
WaltzingAlongkonaya: check lsusb once it is inserted or lspci10:20
konaya07:09.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)10:20
jpa_just one thing, there is a option in dolphin for folders "run as root", it seems to get the same permission problems when using this button10:21
konayaWaltzingAlong, that's what it says10:21
Jucatojpa_: it's a known bug10:21
ScorpKingwhat is the freenode server here? irc.freenode.net?10:21
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: i know i have had to edit the modprobe alsa options for another computer with hda intel. check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto10:21
the-ermkonaya: I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase.  If I had that problem I'd start by looking at the kde services.  Not the "system services" but the stuff kde runs.  either that or I'd learn to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/card/10:21
JucatoScorpKing: yes10:22
ScorpKingty10:22
Jucatojpa_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/+bug/15503210:22
jpa_so does it use sude instead of kdesudo in dolphin automatically when i push that "run as root" button @ Jucato ?10:22
konayathe-erm, ...I know how to mount manually. But I can't even do that. And it's not a USB reader, it's an internal one.10:22
Jucatojpa_: kdesudo is a graphical front to sudo10:22
jpa_okay thanks i will read that post first @ Jucato10:22
Jucatojpa_: so wherever kdesudo is used, sudo is used10:22
wikihi all, any idea when the toolchain will be stabilized?10:23
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: ok, I'll try that, thanks10:23
Jucatowiki: what toolchain?10:23
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: if you want to skip updating the modules, then check manually specifying the module parameters. i had to do that to get hda intel working10:23
the-ermkonaya: oh my bad ... then I think it would be in the /dev/hd* list.10:23
the-ermkonaya: wait ... no still in /dev/sd10:24
konayathe-erm, when mounted, mount says it's /dev/mmcblk0p1. But I guess block devices are handled dynamically by udev or something...10:24
the-ermI have an "internal" card reader.  Right on the front of my computer.  It's always been /dev/sd*.10:24
konayathe-erm, I'll try that. But it's still strange kde can't find it... :)10:25
the-ermSometimes you luck out and get it in knoquerors media list.10:25
JohnFluxRiddell: ping10:25
konayathe-erm, No other block devices than sda* exist. And that's my SATA drive.10:26
kukmanWho use the licq? It don't play any sound:(10:27
the-ermI'm kinda tired ... konaya what are we trying to connect again ?10:28
konayathe-erm, a memory card reader.10:28
the-ermOk is it a usb one?10:28
the-ermOr one that's right there in the front of the computer?10:28
konayathe-erm, It's an internal one. No idea how it's actually connected inside.10:28
konayathe-erm, but it shows up on lspci10:29
the-ermok try this ... open konqueror with media:/ for the url.  Plug in your card.10:29
konayathe-erm, Nothing happens.10:29
jpatrickJohnFlux: can I help you?10:29
konayathe-erm, If it would, I wouldn't have a problem, eh? :)10:30
the-ermSure.10:30
JohnFluxjpatrick: just wondering if I'm invited to UDS this year :)10:30
jpatrickJohnFlux: ha, me neither10:30
the-ermkonaya: when in doubt I tail -f /var/log/syslog10:30
the-ermin fact I have that running all the time.10:31
the-ermunfortunatly .. I'm lost.10:31
the-ermSorry10:31
konayathe-erm, Absolutely no output is generated upon inserting/removing the card.10:31
konayathe-erm, oh. Oh well, no biggie ^^ I'll just keep looking.10:33
JohnFluxjpatrick: oh, it starts today :(10:33
JohnFluxjpatrick: poor me10:33
the-ermKubuntu has always been nice to me in when it comes to inserting media, and usb cards.10:33
konayaOr maybe I'll just buy a usb reader. Or finish the one I'm currently building.10:33
jpatrickJohnFlux: don't worry, there's always next time10:34
JohnFluxheh tue10:34
JohnFluxtrue10:34
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: btw i found the alsa conf txt file at /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz          and  give a search for snd-hda-intel10:34
zhaoqijiehow do you do10:34
konayaI discovered that the card reader module and the usb client chip still works in my old smashed-up digital camera :)10:34
konayaOh, one more question btw, a more generic one.10:35
konaya7.10. Is it worth it?10:35
the-ermIt doesn't make sense that you have it in during boot, and it's present, but when you insert it, it doesn't show up.10:36
konayathe-erm, I'm aware of that x)10:36
JohnFluxkonaya: depends if you want to try cutting edge stuff :)10:36
JohnFluxkonaya: there's some bugs, but also some nice features :)10:36
konayaJohnFlux, I ran the x64 version on my home comp before. I'm used to annoying bugs :)10:37
JohnFluxkonaya: then give it a try :)10:37
the-ermkonaya: Have you tried looking in  kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Service Manger?10:37
WaltzingAlong7.10? could wait for next lts at 8.0410:38
JohnFluxkonaya: the next ubuntu release will contain a lot of bug fixes  (it's a long term support)10:38
* JohnFlux nods at WaltzingAlong10:38
konayaJohnFlux, The only thing that keeps me is the fact that I use this laptop for school work, and I'm kinda dependant on it...10:38
JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: that's what I'm doing :)10:38
konayathe-erm, I'll try10:38
jpa_@ Jucato Are you still online?10:38
JohnFluxkonaya: yeah.  maybe wait for the 8.04 then?10:38
Jucatojpa_: yes10:38
WaltzingAlongJohnFlux: i moved mine to 7.10 but all the others i administer will sit at 7.04 until LTS 8.0410:38
JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: yeah, I'm doing the same thing10:39
konayaJohnFlux, lol ^^10:39
konayaJohnFlux, I said I'm kinda dependant, not a total chicken :)10:39
the-ermkonaya: I think you need to have KDED Media Manger running10:39
jpa_okay :) i read the whole post and it seems that there is some kind of fix but i am not sure which file of the posted ones work.10:39
Q-collectivebbl10:39
konayathe-erm, It wasn't running. Starting it now...10:40
jpa_or is the fix already in the repos ? @ Jucato10:40
Jucatojpa_: the fix should be in the main update servers soon.10:41
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jpa_okay :) so i just have to wait and then i will see it in the update program right? @ Jucato  ?10:41
Jucatoyep10:41
konayathe-erm, I started it. But still no sign of activity in syslog, and nothing happens.10:42
jpa_okay thank you @ Jucato10:43
konayaHm, this is kinda depressing...10:44
the-erm... I just don't know enough about this to be of any more use.  Check out your /etc/fstab I guess :)10:44
konaya:) Iäll do that10:44
konaya*I'll10:44
the-ermI know nothing past this.10:45
konayathe-erm, okay :) know of anyone that might?10:45
the-ermI just checked my /etc/fstab and I don't see anything.10:46
the-ermHas it ever worked?10:46
konayathe-erm, When I start the computer with a card inserted, it works, as previously stated. So it's kinde wierd :/10:47
konaya*kinda10:47
the-ermSo it's never worked when inserting?10:47
acemoi just installed git by sudo apt-get install git, but if i type git, it says command not found.. where can i find git?10:47
konayaNot when the computer is on, no.10:47
WaltzingAlongacemo: seems you already installed git via apt-get10:48
Q-collectiveWaltzingAlong: I've tried to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file to have the right module loaded10:48
Q-collectivebut still, nothing10:48
Q-collective:\10:48
the-ermI got nothing konaya.10:48
the-ermSorry ...10:48
konayathe-erm, ...well, perhaps with the shipped windows vista preinstalled, but I didn't try. I only used vista for two things: downloading a kubuntu iso and burning it to cd. ^^10:48
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: it was my 3rd or 5th before i had it working10:48
acemoWaltzingAlong: thats what i just said, but what command do i type to use it?10:49
the-ermI refuse to by wista ...10:49
Q-collective5th try?10:49
the-erms/by/buy10:49
the-ermIf I ever get a lap top, it'll be a dell.  Other than that I think I'll just build my own.10:50
konayathe-erm, I don't know of anyone that actually _likes_ Vista. Half of my class has started glancing on linux alternatives :)10:50
Q-collectivethe-erm: it would be a waste of money really, I can tell as I had it installed when I bought this laptop10:50
WaltzingAlongacemo: there is also the git-gui if you need it10:50
the-ermYou still pay for it.10:50
WaltzingAlongunless you live in italy!10:50
acemoWaltzingAlong: i'd like to get the console version of git to work first10:50
Q-collectivecoincidentally I read an article on a major national paper today saying Ubuntu beats Vista10:51
Q-collectiveheh10:51
acemoQ-collective: even XP beats Vista..10:51
konayaWe should really thank microsoft. Without them constantly making windows worse, people wouldn't be migrating :)10:51
acemoseems the dependencys of git are not good... i just installed git, coulnt run the command git, installed git-gui and i could run the command git10:52
WaltzingAlongacemo:  sudo update-alternatives --config git ?10:52
Q-collectiveacemo: as does win2k, but that isn't the point. It's one thing if nerds say Vista is crap and linux is better, it's a whole other story if major media say the same ;)10:53
WaltzingAlongacemo: you may want git-core10:53
acemoWaltzingAlong: acemo@acemo:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config git No alternatives for git.10:53
acemoWaltzingAlong: yes, i noticed that.. but it would be nice if the git package self had git-core as dependency, since it wont work without it?10:53
konayaWindows had its peak around win2k... Then things started to go steeply downhill.10:54
WaltzingAlongacemo: join the packaging team or report a bug, thanks10:54
WaltzingAlongthe-erm: still have to pay for it? sure but get your money back: original (in italian) http://www.aduc.it/dyn/documenti/allegati/sentenza_hp.pdf  or to english google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Fscienze_e_tecnologie%2F07_ottobre_25%2Fwindow.shtml&langpair=it%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF810:55
konayaImagine the next windows release. How failing would that release be? :)10:55
Q-collectiveindeed10:55
Q-collectiveMS: "hey, we finally brought you Windows 2015, it now has WinFS!"10:56
Q-collectiveheh10:56
WaltzingAlonggnu/linux based with a similar ms windows frontend?10:56
konaya^^10:56
the-ermWaltzingAlong: I've read articles about that years ago, however since then I've also read articles that they've updated the TOS ... or whatever it is.  That says they will not refund your money.10:56
Q-collectiveMS can better just start a linux distro10:56
the-ermI think that was mentioned as a April First news article one year.  M$ Linux 200010:57
WaltzingAlongthe-erm: just hard to get the money, the eula says from the mfg but hardly ever will dell, hp, or the like give the funds10:57
WaltzingAlongthe-erm: in this case a judge ruled it so10:57
Q-collectivethe-erm: lame really, I like geNToo a few years back much better ^_^10:58
Q-collectiveliked*10:58
konaya"We figured people'll just be downloading pirated software when supplied with decent bandwidth, so we've ceased all driver support for any network adapters over 28.8k."10:58
the-ermI'll just keep the cash out of M$ hands entirely.  I'll get a dell with ubuntu next time.  So I know the wifi works :)10:58
fred_79hi all, how can i kill a session vtxx?10:58
Q-collectivehmm, how stable is kde4b3 btw? is plasma already in any shape?11:00
the-ermWaltzingAlong: that was a good article ... thanks.11:00
WaltzingAlongQ-collective: might want to grab it from svn but seems you can play around with it a bit11:02
Q-collectiveinteresting11:03
jpatrickQ-collective: i've heard that the lastest debs are very stable11:05
TreeStumpquick question: the kubuntu live/install cd hangs when loading after it gets to mounting root filesystem or something like that... shows a black screen with a blinking line/cursor up the top...11:07
TreeStumpany ideas on what to do?11:07
trippcan u give me a link to italian kubuntu or ubuntu please?11:08
WaltzingAlongTreeStump: change video modes11:08
WaltzingAlongsalute tripp11:08
WaltzingAlong!it | tripp11:08
ubotutripp: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:08
jpatricktripp: ubuntu-it.org11:08
tripphi11:08
trippthanx a lot jpatrick11:08
WaltzingAlongcome va?11:08
trippbene tu?11:08
TreeStumpi tried safe modes and changed it to 800x600x1611:08
WaltzingAlongbene grazie11:08
trippah ma sei ita lol11:08
WaltzingAlongTreeStump: but still not loading?11:08
soonThis is pretty simple I'm sure, but how do I attach a vCard to all my outgoing mails in Kmail ??11:08
TreeStumpnope sure isnt11:09
tripp!it11:09
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:09
Q-collective!ru11:09
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:09
Q-collectivehehe11:09
TreeStumpits annoying me so much! i have no idea what to do, done a memtest and pulled the hdd out so it cant be either, maybe coz its x64 6.06?11:10
XVampireXHi, my X server just dies randomly for some reason... any help?11:11
Q-collectiveread the log?11:11
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XVampireXQ-collective: There's some backtrace but it doesn't really say anything other than some problem with a font >_<11:13
XVampireX11: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e1) [0x8076241]11:13
XVampireXOh, looks like it has something to do with composite too..11:14
WaltzingAlongTreeStump: that should still be fine. were you looking to use live or install?11:15
XVampireX4: /usr/bin/X(CompositeGlyphs+0x9a) [0x816129a]11:15
XVampireXI'm running compiz fusion too, hmm....11:15
TreeStumpWaltzingAlong: imtrying to boot from the live cd so i can install11:16
WaltzingAlongTreeStump: then in that case could you download the alternate cd instead?11:16
grinderR11:17
TreeStumphmm whats the alternate cd? becuase i ordered this one in the mail, it could take ages to download the other cd11:19
WaltzingAlongTreeStump: oh, i see. the live lets you boot live, use it that way with the option to install. the alternate is just to install (not boot live)11:19
TreeStumptruth11:20
spirooDoes anybody know ho to fully enable mod_rewrite on apache2?11:21
spirooIt does not read my .htaccess-file11:21
WaltzingAlongspiroo: yes11:21
spirooCould you help me?11:21
WaltzingAlongspiroo: a2enmod       and ask google11:21
spirooGoogle does not have the answer in this question, sorry11:21
WaltzingAlongspiroo: otherwise join the apache channel or the like. #kubuntu is for kubuntu specific support11:21
spirooI have used a2enmod11:22
spiroookay whats the apache-channeö then?11:22
WaltzingAlong#apache ?11:22
spiroothanks11:23
TreeStumpso when i wanna download the installer iso to i get desktop-amd64 or alternate-amd6411:32
WaltzingAlongdesktop is live11:32
WaltzingAlongso alternate amd6411:32
TreeStumpthanks11:33
mahditest11:35
WaltzingAlongfail11:36
mahdi:-(11:36
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bwayneHi.  I filed a bug against a package and the developers have posted a 'debdiff' for me to test.  But how to I apply a debdiff?11:47
shadowhywindhay all, i closed down the power meter that sits in the systray, And i can't figure out how to reopen it any ideas?11:52
MinnozzHi, when I start an SSH session to my webhoster, it takes a long time before the password promt shows up (about 15 seconds). On my friend's system, it shows up immediately. What could cause this?11:55
HighHoshadowhywind: I think its an applet, right click the me menu panel (empty space) and select add aplet11:56
HighHo*add applet to panel11:56
kaminixWhat's a good graphical/ncurses based FTP-tool?11:56
shadowhywindok thanks11:56
Jucatokaminix: Konqueror?11:57
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HighHokaminix: I use FileZilla for ftp11:58
kaminixJucato: But Konq doesn't support resuming/splitscreening, right?11:58
gundam_rx78nt1I just upgraded kubuntu to 7.10.11:58
kaminixHighHo: Isn't that a Windows prog?11:58
Jucatokaminix: split screening yes. resuming, when uploading to an ftp server?11:59
HighHoBoth linux and Windows11:59
WaltzingAlongbut gui in both cases11:59
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, now knetworkmanager doesn't find any of my network cards (wireless and wired). both were recognized by 7.04.  How can I fix this?11:59
WaltzingAlonggundam_rx78nt1: remove all 'eth' referencs in /etc/network/interfaces11:59
Jucatokaminix: you can split Konqueror's screen as much as you want.. the only limit is your screen space and sanity :)11:59
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, WaltzAlong.11:59
gundam_rx78nt1That is problem number one.12:00
Jucatokaminix: right-click on the Konqueror status bar and you'll see the split screen options12:00
Jucatobrb...12:00
gundam_rx78nt1How do I get the nvidia drivers installed?12:00
WaltzingAlong!nvidia | gundam_rx78nt112:00
ubotugundam_rx78nt1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:00
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WaltzingAlonggundam_rx78nt1: with 7.10 do so through the restricted manager12:01
kaminixJucato: But does it support download resume? I think it just asks me to overwrite files with the same filename.12:01
WaltzingAlongkaminix: kget integrates well with konqueror12:02
emilsedghkalorin: konqueror supports spliting screens12:02
ubuntuhi all12:03
emilsedghkalorin: both vertical and horizontal splits, and even you could have hundreds of splits12:03
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Fyl0nHi guys! :)12:03
Fyl0nI'm looking for good mouse support for the Logitech G7..12:03
Fyl0nDoes kubuntu support the G7 completly?12:03
CredendoHello12:03
CredendoI've somehow managed to kill my kubuntu install12:03
time2diecan I download drivers for Ati Radeon 2600PRO?12:03
kaminixWaltzingAlong: Does KGet support password protected FTPs?12:04
Jucatoemilsedgh: you're talking to the wrong k*12:04
WaltzingAlong!info kget12:04
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1196 kB12:04
WaltzingAlongkaminix: anything konqueror can do12:04
Jucatokaminix: yes I believe kget does.12:04
CredendoMy kubuntu gets as far as the splash screen and and dies12:04
Credendoits saying that the X-serv isn't running12:05
CredendoI'm currently running off the live CD12:05
Jucatoactually of all of KDE, through the ftp:/ and sftp:/ kioslaves support password protected ftps12:05
CredendoI think I need to reinstall X from scrath, I just need to know how to go about that from a command line12:06
WaltzingAlongCredendo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:06
wathekit's makes me mad !!!!12:07
wathekI've a shared printer and I couldn't add it in my Kubuntu12:07
jpatrickwathek: have you installed samba?12:07
jpatrick!printer12:07
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:07
wathekI've specified this http://192.168.1.1:631/printers/Canon_iP1000_USB_1 and it tells me12:07
wathekneed a password and a username !12:07
CredendoWill that actually re-install? because I suspect my x is dead12:07
WaltzingAlongwathek: shared from where?12:07
wathekWaltzingAlong: I've a Debian Server in which is connected the printer12:08
wathekI use cups on my Debian Server12:08
wathekunder the other Clients windows for example I put that address and all work well12:08
WaltzingAlongCredendo: to reinstall x? or how about reconfigure  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:08
gundam_rx78nt1WaltzAlong, thanks.12:09
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CredendoI did reconfigure12:11
CredendoIt seemed to ake things worse12:11
CredendoWhere exactly would my boot logs be stored?12:11
WaltzingAlongtwo steps back one leap forward12:11
WaltzingAlong/var/log12:11
Credendowhich file I mean12:11
WaltzingAlongCredendo: for x check /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:12
CredendoEE listed at the bottom says12:12
Credendo(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.12:12
WaltzingAlongCredendo: could select the 'vesa' driver which should always work12:13
Credendoin the reconfig?12:13
CredendoI should note that the issue is probably of my own design, I had an application in Wine that was asking me to change my desktop color depth12:15
CredendoI changed something in the display setting that I can't for the life of me remember what, and after my wife rebooted the system it died at the KDE load12:15
ubuntuhi all12:18
ubuntu.12:18
ubuntu>12:18
ubuntu?12:18
ubuntuM12:18
ubuntuQ12:18
CredendoI'll be back after attempting that12:18
WaltzingAlongCredendo: well which driver did you select in the reconfig?12:18
Credendonv12:18
HighHoCredendo: have you tryed running?: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:19
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WaltzingAlongCredendo: do you happen to have a backup of a working xorg.conf ?12:19
CredendoI did that minus the phigh12:19
WaltzingAlongCredendo: using phigh only asks high priority questions12:20
mogardohi all someone can give me a french chan?12:20
WaltzingAlong!fr | mogardo12:21
ubotumogardo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:21
mogardothx12:21
Credendois there any way to get root access to copy and paste files on my file structure from a live CD?12:21
WaltzingAlongsudo ? sudo cp src dst ?12:21
atlfalcons866how do i install kde412:26
bsmhey, ideas anyone why kmail works when I use one internet connection and does not work after switching the connection to a different one? ( one is university wlan and one is 3G)12:26
bsmafter restarting kde it works again12:27
CredendoThanks Waltzing I'm gonna try it real quick12:28
CredendoI'll be back if it doesn't work :)12:28
Dragnslcratlfalcons866- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php12:29
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kalorinbsm, do they share the same ip address range and network stuff?12:35
kalorinthe two connections I mean12:35
bsmkalorin, could be, I would have to check12:36
bsmkalorin: does kmail cache something?12:36
bsmkalorin, it was good input, i disabled some kde services (caching whatever) and it works now.12:41
bsmthanks.12:42
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vzolinHello There12:53
vzolinI'm having problems installing kubuntu in my notebook12:54
vzolincan anyone help me?12:54
Riddellvzolin: you need to say what problems12:58
vzolinSure12:58
vzolinThe livecd boot hangs when loading drivers, or if pass that stage when loading X12:59
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CredendoWell I tried rreinstating my old xorg.conf13:00
Credendothat didn't seem to solve the problem13:00
Credendosudo/etc/init.d/kdm restart froze at a flashing prompt13:00
Credendosudo dpckg-reconfigure -phigh xserv-xorg now gives me an error13:01
CredendoFatal Error inserting battery13:01
WaltzingAlongCredendo: and the only change was installing something through wine? hard to understand how that would ruin your X13:02
WaltzingAlongCredendo: possible to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your corresponding /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?13:02
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | Credendo13:02
ubotuCredendo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:02
vzolinthere is documentation on the net about new drivers for my Video Card (nvdia go 6150), but nothing on the notebook13:03
kaminixIs there any way to set KMail and KOrganizer to start in minimized-to-tray mode?13:03
CredendoWell It's not something I JUST changed in wine13:03
WaltzingAlongvzolin: if you just want to install maybe start with the dvd or alternate-cd; otherwise how about safe color/res modes and such13:03
WaltzingAlongkaminix: other than editing the shortcut in the menu editor to launch minimized to tray? or perhaps a config option in kmail for that13:04
kaminixWaltzingAlong: No, including that. :)13:04
Credendomy wine started acting up at first, then it stopped displaying the cursur when I tried to configure my wine settings, then when I changed a setting on display13:04
vzolinwell safe graphics do pass the hardware loading phase, but it dies in X13:04
WaltzingAlongkaminix: kmail/settings/appearance/system tray13:05
kaminixWaltzingAlong: Thanks. :) What about Korganizer? It has the same option perhaps?13:06
WaltzingAlongkaminix: it could. i do not see that option though with korg13:07
WaltzingAlonganizer13:08
* genii sips a coffee13:08
kaminixIsn't there some suffix on the commandline that will do it WaltzingAlong?13:09
Credendohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42552/13:09
WaltzingAlongkaminix: could be. i do not know13:09
WaltzingAlongCredendo: ok and the xorg.conf ?   (btw: (EE) NV(0): Virtual width (2048) is too large for the hardware (max 2032 )13:10
Credendohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42553/13:11
JohnFluxI'm running kubuntu on my laptop, connected to my main kubuntu machine via nomachine, running vmware13:14
WaltzingAlongCredendo: could comment out busid line13:15
JucatoJohnFlux: crazy setup :)13:16
JohnFluxJucato: laptop is only 233mhz with 16MB of ram :)  but this way I can run ms word on it :)13:17
Credendowhere it says "PCI:1:0:0"13:17
Jucatohahah :)13:17
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epimethhello guys!13:18
eidolon7kcould anybody tell me some wireless card models that work fine on Ubuntu?13:20
biovoreeidolon7k: intel13:22
leo_rockwhello everyone, i have a question regarding apollon... what player does it use? and how do i change the configuration?13:22
eidolon7kbioxore, EVERY Intel card?13:23
biovoreIntel actauly support there product on linux..13:24
biovoreI think all there cards work on ubuntu13:24
leo_rockwi want to configure apollon's player so it doesn't use xv but gl2. and akode instead of arts...13:24
biovore2200, and 3945ABG13:25
biovorework well13:25
geniieidolon7k: Perhaps check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported13:25
biovoreone that work by ndis are probably ones to say away from..13:25
mucinohola buenos dias estoy utilizando por primera vez13:26
mucinokubunto13:26
mucinoalguien podria decirme como habrir el messenger13:26
mucino?????13:26
leo_rockwmucino, este canal es en ingles13:26
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leo_rockwmucino: #kubuntu-es13:26
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CredendoWell son of a monkey13:27
CredendoThat worked13:27
Credendothanks WaltzingAlong13:27
WaltzingAlongCredendo: great13:27
Credendoand now my Wine application is working smoothly13:29
CredendoSee this is why ubuntu beats windows hands down :)13:29
Credendocan you explain what was going wrong so I can avoid the issue later?13:30
leo_rockwCredendo: wine is not that good... try running virii in wine, the don't work!13:30
leo_rockwthey*13:30
Shao|samaQuestion about upstart and inittab: Is upstart actually making inittab obsolete? I don't have /etc/inittab on my system, and the package runit barfed when trying to install because of a missing /etc/inittab13:31
WaltzingAlongCredendo: how about pastebin the output of lspci13:31
geniiShao|sama: you can always just touch the dir and the install should finish13:33
WaltzingAlongCredendo: busid can be useful when there are more video devices than just one13:33
Credendohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42557/13:33
leo_rockwhow do i tell kaboodle to use gl2 instead of xv?13:34
WaltzingAlongCredendo: otherwise it was just something to try because x should be able to work without specifying the busid. maybe a bug in the bios, maybe with the modules or x;13:34
Shao|samagenii: Indeed, I have it installed now, but I was trying to figure out if /etc/inittab is supposed to be non-existant :)13:35
CredendoWell it sure cleaned things up for me, and I appreciate the help. I'm clearly gonna have to get the rust out of my linux skills. I haven't done anything with linux since an early redhat13:35
WaltzingAlongShao|sama: i heard that gutsy was shipping without tty1-6, not sure if it is an error or intentional13:36
hjalleis there a way to make amarok use a softwaremixer?13:36
WaltzingAlongCredendo: and i saw nothing out that stood out in the conf, nothing about a virtual desktop size, and resolutions that the driver could handle, and so on13:36
WaltzingAlonghjalle: there is an equalizer already in amork13:36
WaltzingAlongamarok*13:37
geniiShao|sama: Yes. But many of the specific installers haven't been made compliant yet13:37
Shao|samagenii: Ok13:37
Shao|samaNothing to worry about then13:37
WaltzingAlonghjalle: is that what you mean? amarok/tools/equalizer13:37
hjalleWaltzingAlong: well problem is that te drivers for my hardware is'nt very good (got a amd 690g mobo) and only the sw mixer seems to work well13:38
hjalleWaltzingAlong: not really13:38
hjalleand only one app at the time seems to be able to use the hw mixer, while i can run plenty of apps with a swmixer13:39
WaltzingAlonghjalle: not sure. alsa? !sound ?13:42
WaltzingAlong!sound13:42
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:42
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leo_rockwis there any way to change kaboodle's behaviour at all?13:44
aWaltzingAlong: yeah i use alsa, but using oss doesnt mage a difference, and everything "works" only if i use the hwmixer the sound dies after a while13:44
llutz!info xmms-skins13:44
ubotuxmms-skins: Skins for XMMS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (gutsy), package size 909 kB, installed size 1040 kB13:44
dmqexit13:46
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kyronquick question, a friend told me there are some applications not in the official repository for "legal" reasons but that they are really easy to get off another repo...which applications would be off the official cite, as an example; DVD decoders?14:01
frank23!medibuntu14:01
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org14:01
jpatrick!dvd14:01
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:01
kyronFradeve87, thanks ;)14:01
v3ctorspecial thanks to frank23 too14:02
kyronjpatrick, thanks too... point is, this is my mother's laptop I am migrating from Gentoo to Kubuntu... I'm a "no frills" guy and...well... that's me, not the rest of the people :P14:02
jpatrickkyron: I'm migrating my dad's laptop from xp to kubuntu! :D14:03
kyronjpatrick, Wohooo!... good jump..14:03
jpatrick!es > jose14:03
kyronfun thing is... All I will have to tell my mother is, "that's the upgrade I made while you were gone"...and she'll be happy..14:03
jpatrickkyron: yeah, but the last night I... the partitioner wiped out the NFTS partition14:04
kyronthe only worry I have is remote management...she lives 5000km from me..14:04
kyronand gentoo has portage that I am used to...kubuntu...well...it's very graphical...though I saw krfb...14:04
kyronjpatrick, O_O.............ouch14:04
jpatrickuse ssh? I control my siblings computer with that14:04
kyronjpatrick, is it enabled by default?14:05
jpatrickno worries we backed up everything beforehand14:05
jpatrickkyron: nop, but it's as easy as installing "openssh-server"14:05
kyronjpatrick, good move14:06
jpatricknow, the whole family has kubuntu-run computers >:)14:06
posingaspopularnice move jpatrick14:06
Lynourejpatrick: :)14:06
jpatrickthey didn't have a choice14:07
posingaspopularssh is very useful. one day i'll figure it out myself14:07
kyronjpatrick, I run a Gentoo server with LTSP backend... X terms :P14:07
vbgunzever since I've installed Gutsy fresh on release day not once have I had an alert to any new packages... I find this out because I actually run apt-get update regularly. whats up? why no notifications?14:07
Jucatoposingaspopular: all you need to do is to figure out how to open up port 22 :)14:07
Jucato(or forward it...)14:07
posingaspopularJucato: that's devil talk14:07
kyronthough I am itching to try out the ubuntu/(kubuntu?) version with all the USB/Sound device support14:07
jpatrick!ssh > posingaspopular14:07
posingaspopulari have to go to school, but i'd rather be hanging out with you14:07
jpatrickI know how that feels14:08
Jucatoposingaspopular: I have it easy. my routher has a web-based UI for port forwarding, so I forward port 22 to my desktop14:08
Jucatotouter14:08
Jucatoer.. router14:08
kyronjpatrick, the bot is cool...it takes redirrections :P14:08
jpatrickkyron: it does several things14:08
jpatrickbut it doesn't make tea...14:09
Jucatoubotu: tell kyron about ubotu14:09
kyronJucato, LOL14:09
Jucato(it should PM you...)14:09
kyronjpatrick, aw that sucks...though I am certan it could :P14:09
kyronJucato, it did of course14:09
Jucato!botsnack14:09
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!14:09
Jucatogood :)14:09
kyronjpatrick, use AWK to listen to a specific port/IRC channel as a specific user and trigger a port event if ubotu tells the user to make some tea14:10
kyronGutsy Gibbon CD ready...let's go whipe the mother's laptop :P ...guess the only thing I have to do in her $HOME is to delete all .[configdir] folders and files14:11
vbgunzin kopete, can you combin the same contact from several different services into one contact?14:12
vbgunzyou should, I forgot how and don't see anything to make it easy :/14:12
kyronQ all: How to I KILL Katapult to get my Alt-Space back for window menus?14:13
blancociao14:13
epimethgoooood afternoon matees14:13
kyronvbgunz, in your dreams ;)14:13
vbgunzkyron: not possible you're saying?14:13
jpatrickkyron: katapult rocks!! but "killall katapult"14:13
kyronvbgunz, kidding...there is a way to group kontacts14:13
kyronbut it sorta changes every release I saw :P14:14
epimethanybody know how to set up a pptp vpn?14:14
kyronepimeth, yeah, m0n0wall :P14:14
vbgunzI would think it should be as easy as highlight the same contact, then make one contact :/14:14
epimeth!m0n0wall14:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about m0n0wall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:14
epimethkyron: ?14:14
kyronjpatrick, yeah, katapult is kioute...but annoying.. I'd at least bind it to another key...sorta like Win-R14:14
epimethkyron: :-p  I meant in kubuntu!!!14:15
kyronepimeth, I'm kidding, it's a free firewall-in-a-boox solution (if you have spare hardware) which does pretty much everything14:15
kyronepimeth, hehehe...I'm a [UK]buntu neophite, sorry ;)14:15
epimethkyron: thats quite all right :-)14:15
epimethhow about TOR? anybody using it?14:16
blancojnn14:16
kyronepimeth, given what I have seen done here, I would suspect there is a really nice interface ;)14:16
kyronjpatrick, katapult configurable? (do feel free to shove me to some docs...)14:17
epimethkyron: to what? setting up a vpn?14:18
jpatrickkyron: open it up, and press ctrl-c14:18
kyronepimeth, yeah14:18
kyronjpatrick, OOoooo!14:18
epimethkyron: not according to the docs there aint :-(14:18
kyronjpatrick, that doesn't let me configure what "triggers" it and I didn't find the shortcut in kcontrol...14:19
kyronepimeth, Go Gentoo then....gneheheheh14:19
jpatrickkyron: the shortcuts are in the Katapult menu14:19
kyronepimeth, kidding...I'm surprised there ain't a package to do that14:20
kyronjpatrick, Oh...global shortcuts...my bad14:20
vbgunzkyron: metacontact14:20
epimethkyron: yea... me too. but then again, setting up a VPN server is really something only advanced users should do.14:20
kyronvbgunz, in kopete huh... I switched to amsn a while back due to some instability and lack of feature support (video)...might look back14:21
kyronepimeth, Oh...you're setting up a _server_?14:21
vbgunzkyron: I just switched from Gami to Kopete. Kopete starting to finally feel solid14:21
vbgunz/Gami/Gaim/14:21
epimethkyron: yup14:22
kyronepimeth, doesn't [ku]buntu have a "sever" version to do that type of thing?14:23
epimethkyron: DNS and DHCP are up and running be-a-u-tifully... SSH was trivial... but I can't get the friggin PPTPd working right14:23
jpatrickkyron: it does, you type "server" when you first put in the disk14:23
epimethkyron: yea... its a 'minimal' install command line only system.  (minimal should be read: "small, but still much much bigger than debian :-p")14:23
epimethjpatrick: what up?  long time no "see"14:24
epimethkyron: btw... its spelled "[k]ubuntu" :-)14:24
kyronepimeth, note that I run Gentoo (clusters, LTSP servers and all) so I am not much of a reference concerning [uk]buntu stuff unfortunately14:25
jpatrickepimeth: not much, looking into some merges14:25
kyroni'm trolling here in the hopes of learning a little more to tell my students too (if I ever get to teach the BASH class again next semester :P)14:25
kyronepimeth, actuall, it should be (U|Ku)buntu14:26
epimethkyron: what level of education?14:26
jpatrickkyron: best way to learn is to smashup everything14:26
kyronI'm working myself up to writing my masters at the moment... profiling of communications of parallel genetic multi-objective algorithms...14:26
* jpatrick is still in secondary eduaction14:27
kyronjpatrick, the first thing I tell my students to do is to make mistakes... or they won't learn a thing ;P14:27
epimethkyron: oh! oh! #rm -r /14:27
jpatrickepimeth: you missed the -f14:28
epimethkyron: oh! oh! #yes | rm -r /14:28
epimethjpatrick: no i didn't ^14:28
epimeth:-p14:28
NyleI upgraded to gusty and it deleteld all my konqueror mouse gestures14:29
WaltzingAlongkyron: LaTeX14:30
Nylehow can I get em back14:31
dthacker-workgood local time channel! Using Systems network manager, I am unable to change my default gateway for the onboard wired NIC on my laptop.   How can I make this change?14:31
Nylecan anyone else out there upload a premade one, so i don't have to14:31
Nylepleae14:31
fadeyHi, everyone. Does anyone know what is EVMS for? Is it safe to delete it?14:31
dthacker-workSorry: I should say this is gutsy.  Fresh load.14:32
kyronepimeth, it's rm -Rf /14:32
kyronR14:32
WaltzingAlongdthacker-work: through knetworkmanager?14:32
LjLkyron: not really, -r or -R doesn't make a difference14:32
epimethkyron:  -r, -R, --recursive   remove directories and their contents recursively14:32
epimethnya nya14:32
kyronWaltzingAlong, yes Latex...but why tell me?14:32
WaltzingAlongkyron: to mention it had you not heard it (mentioned working on a masters)14:33
kyronepimeth, ok...so i'm an oldy14:33
epimethfadey: ever heard the phrase "If it aint broke, don't fix it"?  seriously tho, I don't know....14:33
TaminHey. This is a long one, so bear with me, please :) I'm running 6.06, and am having... issues with my USB wireless adapter.14:33
dthacker-workWaltzingAlong: Is KNetworkmanager the cute but worthless icon in the system tray?14:33
TaminAccording to /var/run/messages, NETDEV WATCHDOG began having issues with it transmitting; about three days ago it got fed up and reported an EPROTO; hardware, connectivity, or firmware issue. When I remove it and plug it back in, it comes back with zd1211: usb_control_msg 1 fail: FFFFFFE0 (which, according to my understanding of my LDD book, is a contradiction), and zd1211_Download_IncludeFile failed. I do not suspect the device,14:33
kyronWaltzingAlong, LOL...yeah...the insult is that my U prones Word for writing up theses14:34
epimethkyron: thats okay, I'm slowly but surely pludding along and becoming an oldy myself14:34
WaltzingAlongkyron: exactly14:34
Taminlsusb: reports that there IS a device attached with the proper name14:34
Taminlshw: reports that, while there is a device attached, it's UNCLAIMED14:34
Taminlsmod: reports that module zd1211 is attached14:34
Taminifconfig wlan *ip*: reports that it can't find the device14:34
TaminEverything I can see tells me it *should* be working, but ... it's not. What have I missed?14:34
kyronepimeth, got kids14:34
WaltzingAlongdthacker-work: right. delete any reference to eth devices in /etc/network/interfaces , make knetworkmanager live again! or, how were you attempting to set the default gateway?14:34
epimethkyron: no wifey yet...14:35
epimethWaltzingAlong: waaait... shouldn't he leave "auto eth0/1/X" ?14:35
ubuntu.14:35
kyronepimeth, hehe...got a 5year GF and a 2m/old baby....but 28...so not too old14:35
dthacker-workWaltzingAlong: I had everything set up for my home network.  I am now attempting to change eth0 (the hardwired NIC) over to my desktop address and create a work profile.   I14:36
epimethcongratulations then!14:36
jpatrickkyron: ask your students if they're interested in becoming devs :P14:36
dthacker-workWaltzingAlong: I am using Systems==> Network Manager14:36
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kyronjpatrick, LOL...my students are forced to take the BASH course and 96% of em HATE this class :P14:37
epimethdthacker-work: you want to create a mapping or just override your previous eth0 settings?14:37
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* jpatrick prefers python + ruby for scripting14:37
dthacker-workepimeth: mapping?14:37
hydrogenI wouldn't be proud if 96% of my students did not like a class I taught..14:38
hydrogenbut hey, that sjust me!14:38
epimethdthacker-work: you can set up a single ethernet card to work on multiple addresses/netmasks/gateways14:38
epimethdthacker-work: man interfaces14:38
kyronWaltzingAlong, concerning Latex, yeah, I don't like the fluff, only the content, hence me being under Gentoo generally and typing under latex (so...I like to fsck around for hours learning how to place a png in a document...and not re-learn how to do it or see my doc change format years later because the processor decided the format changed because of a font change :P)14:38
epimethdthacker-work: you basically create 2 adapters from the same one... say "eth0-home" and "et0-work"14:38
kyronhydrogen, you mean you14:39
dthacker-workepimeth: what is the difference between mappings and profiles?14:39
WaltzingAlongkyron: exactly. it was well worth the effort i thought14:39
kyronas I was saying (be damned non-standard keyboard): you mean they don't like your class at a higher percentage)14:39
epimethdthacker-work: what are profiles?14:39
kyronWaltzingAlong, ;)14:39
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dthacker-workepimeth: see the 4th tab in System Setting--> Network Settings14:40
TaminAnyone have experience with lshw showing a usb wireless adapter as UNCLAIMED?14:41
the-tomica little help please -> is it possible to install kubuntu without affecting your win xp installation?14:42
WaltzingAlongthe-tomic: dual booting and the like? sure.14:42
the-tomicbut without formating my computer?14:42
WaltzingAlongthe-tomic: yes. resizing partitions as necessary if you want to install; or could run the live/desktop cd to play around with it14:43
epimethdthacker-work: never used network settings in system settings... don't know what it does / how it works14:43
epimethdthacker-work: but it seems like it saves the configuration.  so you can load different profiles manually whenever you move from place to place.  mappings work all the time no matter where you are14:44
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the-tomici'm using it live from a dvd now, but in case i want to install it - resize partitions and install kubuntu... ok, so it's possible14:44
dthacker-workepimeth: ok, I'll take a look at that.  Thank you for your assistance.14:45
WaltzingAlongthe-tomic: yeah and the installer can walk you through it14:45
the-tomicthx14:45
dthacker-workepimeth: for now I'll use CLI to set default gateway.14:45
epimethdthacker-work: no worries.  $man interfaces ... the file is located in /etc/network/interfaces... you reload by $sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart14:46
epimethdthacker-work: meanwhile, KNetworkManager *should* pick up on any changes once you restart the networking service14:46
dthacker-workepimeth: ok, I'll give it a go.  Thanks14:47
epimethdthacker-work: if not, you can restart the computer and it will pick up on any changes then...14:47
epimethdthacker-work: no worries :-)14:48
gilholaç14:50
poison--mornin14:50
poison--anyone havin issues with dvd playback?14:50
ubunturosis there #kubuntu-114:50
Lynourepoison--: What kind of issues are you having?14:50
dthacker-workpoison: no, works great, what's your problem14:50
poison--display corruption14:50
Jucatoubunturos: no.14:51
Jucatoat least not yet14:51
poison--hey jucato14:51
Jucatohi poison--14:51
poison--im using an onboard machine14:51
ubunturosJucato: um, ok14:51
gilsomebody  know a irc channel in spanish?14:51
poison--with sis vga14:51
poison--!es14:51
ubunturos!sp14:51
llutz!es14:51
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.14:51
poison--lmao14:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:51
ubunturospoison--: which one? (SiS 6230 ?)14:52
poison--<dthacker-work, i1ve installed kubuntu restricted formats, ffmpeg.. but nothin14:52
poison--lemme see14:52
poison--SIS 76114:52
ubunturosumm, ok14:52
poison--if i reduce the screen size to tiny, it works14:53
poison--i can see image14:53
poison--but if i raize it, i get corrupted image14:53
HenriqueGogoplease, I want a help: how I install files in my Plam by GNOME-PILOT? (I can syncronize my to do list and address.. but I dont know how I install *.prc or *.pdb br GNOME-PILOT)... please, some help!14:53
poison--!palm14:53
ubotuA good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB14:54
HenriqueGogopoison--: sorry my mistake14:54
HenriqueGogopoison--: do you know?14:55
TaminAnyone know why my usb wireless adapter is listed in lshw as unclaimed?14:55
Kr4t05Gar... KDE and Compiz make conky cry. :<14:55
Taminit seems to be a rather... unique problem14:55
dthacker-workpoison--: sorry, I'm not sure how to debug that.  It's sounds like you've done all the things I would have to fix it.14:55
poison--i didnt, i dont have a palm, but try to read that url, maybe has some help14:56
HenriqueGogopoison--: I was read this url, but doesnt work14:57
poison--:(14:58
kaminixHmm... although it was interruptet, a download I have in KTorrent still says it has not been resumed. How do I resume it?15:02
kaminixDelay + resume only shows Login was ok.15:02
Perguntawhat best ubuntu or kubuntu?15:03
tackatkubuntu ;-)15:03
CharlieKanecan someone tell me how to get compiz fusion to work with kubuntu ?15:03
Perguntaand why?15:04
CharlieKanewithout crashing stuff and losing my window decorations15:04
TaminCan anyone spare a bit to help me troubleshoot my usb wireless adapter?15:04
tackatPergunta: try it and find out for yourself why Kubuntu is the better choice for you :-)15:04
Perguntai use kubuntu and ubuntu both15:05
metaconI have no alsa config files they never instaled when i instald festy can some one direct me to a bug report or tell me where to put new config files and where to get them? please^_^15:05
Perguntaand then15:05
tackatPergunta: Actually it's hard to say what is better in general because it's a personal preference. And given that people have different tastes and habits ...15:05
Perguntai delete ubuntu15:05
dennisvbecause kde is superior to gnome, that's why15:05
CharlieKaneIm giving up and uninstalling compiz15:06
geniiPergunta: Since underneath bot ubuntu and kubuntu is the same core, it just comes to which gui interface you prefer most.15:06
genii*both15:06
ExilantI'm trying to run kubuntu in qemu (i want to tweak the cd a little), but i only get a busyBox shell, no error messages15:06
Perguntasomeone talk hebrew?15:06
CharlieKaneCan't get any help and it looks like compiz fusion is unresonably biased toward gnome15:06
Exilantanyone did that, or knows when kubuntu starts busybox?15:06
Perguntakk15:07
WaltzingAlong!busybox15:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:07
WaltzingAlong!he15:08
ubotuלשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:15:08
ubotu/join #ubuntu-il15:08
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poison--<dthacker-work, ubunturos, fixed it. just went to kaffeine xine engine settings and changed engine to opengl.. workin nice now15:08
CharlieKanedone... its gone now15:09
geniiExilant: If this is the alternate install CD, there are 4 consoles normally, 1st shows progress, 2 &3 are busybox and 4 is error/stdout15:09
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Exilantit's not, the normal cd15:09
Exilantthat should boot to kde15:09
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WaltzingAlongExilant: when it can detect the video15:10
Exilantand in fact did so when i installed it :)15:10
Exilanthm, good point15:10
CharlieKaneAnyone using KDE4 Beta 3 atm ?15:11
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WaltzingAlongCharlieKane: sure15:13
CharlieKaneHow are you finding it ?15:13
WaltzingAlongwell15:13
CharlieKanecool15:13
WaltzingAlonglooking forward to its 4.1 release!15:14
CharlieKaneWhy 4.1 exactly ?15:14
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WaltzingAlong:D15:15
rafael_tem canal kubuntu15:15
WaltzingAlongof course i will put 4.0 on in december (already on now in beta3) but maybe things are refined better in 4.1?15:16
WaltzingAlong!it | rafael_15:16
uboturafael_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:16
rafael_is an kubuntu chanel in portuguese?15:16
Dr_Willis!pr15:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:16
WaltzingAlong!po15:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:16
genii!pt15:16
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:16
Dr_Willis!es15:16
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:16
rafael_thanks15:17
geniipt=portugal15:17
geniipr=peru es=spain15:17
WaltzingAlong!portuguese15:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:17
WaltzingAlongwell no need for abbrv then ;)15:17
geniiWaltzingAlong: :)15:17
Exilantah, seems to be a bug in qemu15:18
gilen español?15:19
rafael_anybody know how can I rip dvd with k3b, i have the trancode but i cant rip in k3b15:19
WaltzingAlong!es | gil15:19
ubotugil: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:19
Exilantalso, kqemu seems not to work at all15:19
WaltzingAlongrafael_: what do you want at the end? mpeg4 (avi or the like) or a video-dvd copy?15:20
gilgracias15:20
WaltzingAlong!k9copy | rafael_15:21
uboturafael_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs15:21
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Taminwhat, if anything, can I do about 'nonzero read bulk status received: -EPROTO"15:26
tuxwulfAm I visible ?15:27
TaminWell, I can read you...15:28
Taminbut, at this point, I'm not sure *I'm* getting through15:29
* The_Machine sees Tamin 15:30
* Tamin is slightly cheered15:30
The_Machineer, tuxwulf even15:31
Dr_Willishuh?15:31
Dr_Willis:-)15:31
tuxwulfAh15:32
tuxwulfThanks15:32
tuxwulfMachine: thanks15:32
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kenkkuhi, what might be the problem if I have to enable "pre-released updates" in adept to be able to do a full version upgrade?15:37
kenkkuI'm guessing language files15:37
EmergeTWAnyone have an idea why Netbeans 5.5-0.59 is showing up in my Adept instead of 5.5.1? I did a fetch updates15:40
lg188hello15:41
lg188somebody knows how to coneect other servers ?15:41
kyronAwwwww... I I just installed 7.10 on and the menus are ...wrong: All entries are preceded by _:Entry...blah blah blah15:42
kenkkulg188: what kind of servers?15:42
TaminHmm... I must be missing something. lsusb claims that my wireless adapter is being seen by the system, and lsmod claims the correct module is loaded; lshw, however, says that the device is "unclaimed", following a EPROTO error; Said device works on the Windows machine. Is there a way to force Kubuntu to 'claim' the device?15:42
lg188webnet15:43
petesejtPls some1 help. I have gutsy, and like to compile smthing. I got the error message "C compiler cannot create executables" bcoz no gcc etc installed. Trying "sudo apt-get install gcc..." or via adept it asks for gutsy cd again and again but the disk IN  the drive. :-S15:43
GularsI'm having some issues with knetworkmanager. for instance, if I boot the computer disconnected eth0 wont show up in the interfaces list. This also happends, when having been connected to a wlan, and then moving the laptop out of coverage and connecting to a wired network. /etc/interfaces is empty (other than lo) and /etc/init.d/networking restart does nothing15:44
WaltzingAlongpetesejt: i may suggest to comment out the cd repository, then install from the internet repositories15:44
Taminor, perhaps more interestingly, if anyone is currently running a zd1211-based usb adapter: could I see the output of lsmod ?15:44
npurcifulhello does anyone here use lvm, and know how to get gusty alternate install partitioner see pv & lv ?15:44
petesejtWaltzing: thx I give it a try.15:45
Gularspetesejt, sudo apt-get install build-essential15:45
tsactuo.15:45
lg188someone ca help me conecting to webnet ?15:45
lg188can*15:46
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kenkkulg188: what is webnet?15:46
lg188a server15:46
TaminAnyone?15:48
kyronEveryone? ...there a FAQ about menu entries being all screwy?15:49
lg188hwo geting wine on a kubuntu ?15:49
tsb_How do you change the height of the "external taskpar" panel?15:50
kenkkulg188: what kind of a server is webnet?15:50
lg188i got it from chatzilla15:51
sparrw!compiz15:51
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:51
kenkkulg188: it's an IRC server?15:51
pavel_can anyone help me with upgrading kubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 ?15:51
petesejtWaltzing: thank you, removing the CD from repos solved the problem. :)15:51
lg188yes15:51
lg188kenkku:yes15:51
pavel_after i go to adept_manager and tell him to Full Upgrade and Apply changes, it downloads everything, and then it says smthing like 'Cannot install ... some packages might have been broken or they might broke some other packages'15:52
kenkkulg188: do you know the address of the server?15:53
WaltzingAlongpavel_: run from konsole or a vterminal  sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -y dist-upgrade15:54
lg188kenkku:not presicly15:55
WaltzingAlongpavel_: welcome15:55
* lg188 looking at windows pc15:55
WaltzingAlonglg188: install the package 'wine' through adept manager or sudo aptitude install wine15:57
lg188kenkku: irc.webnet.info15:57
kenkkulg188: well, then connect to it15:58
kyronWoW...There any known bugs for 7.10, I just installed it on an ACER laptop, performed some upgrades as per the package manager and now, menus are all screwed with _: Entries ... and the keyboard doesn't work O_o...15:58
lg188kenkku: ''sudo aptitude install wine'' dont work15:58
kyronanyone has suggestions?...install from another source?15:58
kenkkulg188: what does it say?15:59
WaltzingAlonglg188: need to add a repository that carries wine15:59
WaltzingAlong!wine15:59
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.15:59
ubuntuhello16:00
lg188wwomthing with archives wrong16:00
lg188something*16:00
lg188damaged filles16:02
lg188file's*16:02
WaltzingAlonglg188: sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude install wine16:02
WaltzingAlongkyron: kmenu items? open kcontrol to configure the menu item in the panels section. click 'name only' under menu item format16:03
lg188same damagd file's16:03
WaltzingAlonglg188: which files?16:04
pointwoodhow do I clear any manual configuration I've done with knetworkmanager?16:04
lg188wine: Vereisten: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) dat een virtueel pakket is.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libasound2 (> 1.0.14) maar 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) maar 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.4.0) maar 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.4.0) maar 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: liblcms1 (>= 1.15-1) maar 1.13-1 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libxml2 (>= 2.6.29) maar 2.6.24.dfsg-1ubuntu1 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
lg188        Vereisten: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.20) maar 1.1.15-1ubuntu1 is geïnstalleerd.16:05
kyronWaltzingAlong, very funny...I don't feel like editing ALL the menu entries16:05
kyronWaltzingAlong, also, my keyboard doesn't work anymore..16:05
lg188geïnstaleerd means instaled16:05
kyron...quite some bugs16:05
kyronWaltzingAlong, and both package links don't work if I click on them O_o16:06
chronosis there a way to disable shift backspace from restarting x after instaling compiz?16:07
lg188The following parcels have not-fulldone dependences:16:09
lg188The following parcels do not have satisfied dependences:16:09
lg1880utf816:09
WaltzingAlonglg188: are you on the livecd? are you running out of space (which means running low on ram for the livecd to use)16:10
lg188no i have isntald kubuntu full on my pc16:10
lg188not running livecd16:10
kyron...uhm...so I am the only one experiencing problems of this sort?...no keyboard + weird menus (I suspect an upgrade that failed...)16:10
WaltzingAlonglg188: or check your /etc/apt/sources.list file to make sure you have all feisty or all gutsy and not combinations of both16:10
kyronshould I re-install completely?...this sounds too windows-ish16:11
WaltzingAlongkyron: no others have the weird menus16:11
WaltzingAlongkyron: kmenu items? open kcontrol to configure the menu item in the panels section. click 'name only' under menu item format16:11
kyronWaltzingAlong, ...hmm...I'll try that...but that won't give me my keyboard back I suspect...16:11
lg188WaltzingAlong: wat looking for ?16:11
WaltzingAlonglg188: you could pastebin your sources.list for inspection by those of us here to help16:12
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | lg18816:12
ubotulg188: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:12
WaltzingAlonglg188: otherwise, looking to make sure feisty appears nowhere (if you are running gutsy)16:12
lg188# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:16:12
lg188#deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted16:12
lg188# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:16:12
lg188#deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted16:12
lg188## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the16:12
lg188## distribution.16:12
lg188# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:16:12
WaltzingAlonglg188: oh so you are on dapper16:12
WaltzingAlonglg188: yes do not paste so many lines into the channel16:13
lg188oke i wil do not doi,gn it again16:13
WaltzingAlong:p pastebin it,16:13
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | lg18816:13
ubotulg188: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:13
lg188and what doing it wit that ?16:15
lg188http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/16:15
tresko22Hi! Anyone knows what this means? Oct 16 10:44:13 localhost java: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "bluetack5.snowmanuk.net.nyud.net IN A", got type "39" -> from auth.log16:15
dennisterhey channel, i'm having a bit of a prob with my partitions: awhile back my vfat parts just stopped being writable for no apparent reason, and now dolphin is reporting on exit that it can't save bookmarks: "Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive."16:15
kyronWaltzingAlong, sorry if it's obvious but which icon will get me to the menu config in kcontrol...16:16
dennisterthing is, no partitions are full (i've checked) although one partition is reported as full by winblows (it's not full)16:16
WaltzingAlongkyron: well in kcontrol, type menu in the search, one result is panel16:16
kyronWaltzingAlong, the keyboard doesn't work anymore!16:16
kyronthat is my second (well...first now) problem!16:16
dennisteranyone know what's going on with this inaccurate reporting?16:17
WaltzingAlongdennister: or because of wrong permissions on the file. sudo chown dennister:dennister /home/dennister -R16:17
WaltzingAlongdennister: but to start just check the file in question16:17
WaltzingAlongkyron: :D alright otherwise right mouse click on kmenu, panel menu/configure panel16:18
epimethdoes anybody use TOR, and if so do you know if I should install the feisty version seeing as the only gutsy version they have is experimental?16:19
lg188WaltzingAlong:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/16:19
kyronWaltzingAlong, ah ok...will try that...if the laptop ever reboots O_o... quite unstable, I'm totally surprised!16:20
dennisterWaltzingAlong: k, u were correct...changed perms16:20
lg188WaltzingAlong:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/16:21
WaltzingAlonglg188: thanks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42587/16:21
dennisternow about the inaccurate reporting...and why parts that were writable changling all of asudden to ro status...anyone know what's going on?16:21
lg188WaltzingAlong:and whta to do with it ?16:22
WaltzingAlonglg188: make that be the new file . with the gui, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list16:22
WaltzingAlonglg188: or see in yours, most of the lines are commented out (# appears at the front)16:23
WaltzingAlongdennister: on gutsy? perhaps see kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and partitions16:23
WaltzingAlongfilesystems*16:23
frojndHow can I disable alt + left mouse ??  When  I do this I move entire window, no mather where I click. If I press alt + left click I move window. WHere can I disable this. It's annying when u use inkscape...16:23
dennisterWaltzingAlong: yes, i'm on gutsy now, but quite frankly this was happening before the upgrade from feisty, too16:24
lg188WaltzingAlong: i ca'nt save it ?16:24
WaltzingAlongfrojnd: kmenu/system settings/keyboard and mouse/keyboard shortcuts16:25
kyronGrrr...as soon as I attempt to launch the Adept_installer, I loose keyboard functionnality...16:25
kyronquite screwy16:25
dennisterand i've checked fstab, too, sda's vfat partitions were still on 'rw', just as they always had been since installation16:25
WaltzingAlonglg188: need to open it with kdesu               alt+f2    then type            kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list16:25
frojndWaltzingAlong, hm... no alt + left click16:26
frojnd:s16:26
lg188WaltzingAlong: now i save dit and what now ?16:27
lg188WaltzingAlong: now i save dit and what now ?16:28
dennisterwell, i've changed the owner anyway...gotta go...later16:28
WaltzingAlonglg188: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install16:28
WaltzingAlonglg188: or you can use adept again, whichever you like16:28
frojndWaltzingAlong, this is really sux... When I alt and left click and drag... windows moves.... is there anywhere else to check for shorcuts ?16:29
lg188agaibn a error16:29
lg188again*16:29
lg188now he is going16:30
WaltzingAlongfrojnd: could it be that that the wrong keyboard layout is in use by X?16:30
WaltzingAlonglg188: alright16:30
frojndWaltzingAlong, hm... I don't think so every nuber, character is correct..16:30
kyronok...so...kubuntu 7.10 is damaged in some sequence... I installed, opened adept to perform recommended upgrades, added proprietary drivers (modem and wifi) and now system has screwed menus and I loose the keyboard as soon as I attempt to launch adept_updater without ever getting a pop-up16:31
lg188some large list16:32
lg188but what to do now ?16:32
WaltzingAlonglg188: it is probably asking you if it is ok to install the packages needed so wine can work16:32
krobbinscan i get freespire help here?16:33
lg188nothign askin to me :s16:33
WaltzingAlongfrojnd: never noticed that before but otherwise i do not know where to remove it16:33
kyronGeez...really takes a Gentoo Guy to screw up a Kubuntu install O_o!16:33
WaltzingAlongfrojnd: otherwise in window behavior16:34
WaltzingAlongfrojnd: ah ha, i see it; system settings/window behavior/window actions/inner window,titlebar and frame   modifier key + left button16:35
lg188WaltzingAlong: a list apear but ther is nothing to shoose or to do it is just a new cmnd line16:37
* lg188 feeling bored about siting befor pc and doing nothing only siting borin befor pc16:39
* lg188 feeling bored about siting befor pc and doing nothing only siting boring befor pc*16:40
WaltzingAlonglg188: ok so maybe you have wine installed then. try   wine --version16:41
debianhello16:41
mikrophello16:41
WaltzingAlongolleh16:41
rysiek|plleho!16:41
debianhow can i save in the newest nano? or run kate as sudo?16:41
rysiek|pldebian: kdesu kate16:42
eagles0513875i was playing around with my wifi and for some reason now on knetwork manager its not displaying my wireless card16:42
Dr_Willissudo kate normally works for me also.16:42
Dr_Willisor checkout 'sux' :)16:42
eagles0513875same with me as well16:42
lg188WaltzingAlong: bash: wine: command not found16:42
rysiek|plDr_Willis: yeah, but it's better to use kdesu for graphical apps16:42
debianI know knetworkmanager runs into manual and wont come out?16:42
eagles0513875debian: how do i fix that or are there any other network managers16:43
WaltzingAlonglg188: sudo aptitude install wine16:43
debianeagles: it is a file16:43
WaltzingAlongDr_Willis: :( kdesu kate or kdesudo kate16:43
Dr_WillisGnome and kde both fight over the proper name for the darn sudo tool :)16:44
WaltzingAlongdebian: nano   ctrl+o to save16:44
Dr_Willisi can never rember which one it is16:44
iecsamWaltzingALong: have u used mixxx??16:44
WaltzingAlongDr_Willis: sudo is sudo but should not be used to launch gui apps16:44
Dr_Williswhich is why i use  'sux'16:44
Dr_Willis!info sux16:44
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB16:44
WaltzingAlonggksu with gnome and kdesu/kdesudo with kde16:44
debianeagles: two ways, go to system setting or control panel, the network and disable wireless16:45
lg188WaltzingAlong: i think its ready butt wher to find the folder ?16:45
KingJereWaltzingAlong: sorry to interupt, every guide I see on line uses apt-get. you say aptitude. I use aptitude. Is there any disadvantage to aptitude?16:45
debianor editing a file16:45
WaltzingAlonglg188: then you should be able to start it with the command 'wine'16:45
TimSDr_Willis: Would you mind walking me through installing something from source? Before now i have been having problems, I think I am lacking things needed, but I have build essentials16:45
lg188WaltzingAlong: nope16:45
debianeagles: did that do it?16:46
lg188WaltzingAlong: somthing comming of is not a programe16:46
TimS!buildfromsource16:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buildfromsource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:46
TimS!building16:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about building - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:46
llutz!b-e16:47
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)16:47
WaltzingAlongKingJere: i prefer it and it gives a console based front end (sudo aptitude); it was more interesting a bit earlier because apt-get would not recall which packages i installed vs which were installed only to satisfy dependencies (and could therefore be removed when the package i installed was removed and no others were using the packages); also with aptitude i can search (aptitude search) or install (aptitude install) whereas with16:47
WaltzingAlongapt-get i can install but would need the to use apt-cache search to search16:47
lg188WaltzingAlong: looks bad16:48
KingJereWaltzingAlong: So in your mind theres really no disadvantage?16:48
WaltzingAlongKingJere: i have seen one argument against aptitude in that it grabs recommended packages instead of just dependencies as well (though i have not done anything to follow up on that)16:49
WaltzingAlongKingJere: and i have it configured to clear obsolete packages after an update16:49
KingJereWaltzingAlong: Thanks16:49
lg188WaltzingAlong: lnothign starting only erro mssg16:49
WaltzingAlonglg188: how so?16:49
lg188WaltzingAlong: nothing is starting only error message16:49
WaltzingAlonglg188: which program did you want to run with wine? what happened with   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine  ?16:50
atlfalcons866how do install dolphin kde4 version16:51
mikropsudo apt-get install dolphin16:52
lg188WaltzingAlong:This solution accept? [ Y/n/q /?16:52
iecsamWaltzingAlong: hav u used Songbird16:52
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: follow the kde4beta3 install guide on kubuntu.org   then when you get that, you can launch the apps via their full path /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin  for example16:52
WaltzingAlongiecsam: i have16:52
WaltzingAlonglg188: Y16:52
atlfalcons866will installing kde4 break my installtion16:53
WaltzingAlongiecsam: have it installed on an ms windows machine until amarok is available on ms windows16:53
lg188WaltzingAlong:Do you want go further? [ Y/n /?16:53
Dr_WillisI like songbird :) i like it even better now that i learned how to make it load up normal firefox extensions..  Like adblock16:53
carwash^i have huge problems with kde4. plasma runs at 100% cpu usage all the time16:53
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: you can install kde4 along side kde3.5.8 and kubuntu16:53
iecsamit doesn't play any songs on my kubuntu WaltzingALong16:53
iecsamdo u know why it is?16:53
WaltzingAlongiecsam: perhaps ask generally or ask Dr_Willis as it seems Dr_Willis has it working16:54
atlfalcons866like installing gnome16:54
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: right16:54
atlfalcons866and running that as a seperate session16:54
Dr_WillisIt may need the various codecs.16:54
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: you could run an entire session of it or just some apps from it16:54
Dr_Willis!info kubuntu-restricted-extras16:54
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB16:54
Dr_Willisthat package should get most of the codecs and things for you16:55
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atlfalcons866nothing bad will happen16:55
atlfalcons866?16:55
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eagles0513875what other network managers r there16:55
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W8TAHive a comptuer that when ever i try to do the adept update it tells me that it cant cuz it will break other packages -- how do i resolve this?16:56
eagles0513875!aptfix |w8tah16:56
WaltzingAlongW8TAH: which packages?16:56
ubotuw8tah: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:56
W8TAHWaltzingAlong: it doesnt say16:56
WaltzingAlongW8TAH: updates to certain versions are not available because they leave the system in a broken state as dependencies are not available in the repositories?16:57
lg188WaltzingAlong:Do you want go further? [ Y/n /?16:57
WaltzingAlongW8TAH: the version upgrade from feisty to gutsy or just a normal one16:57
W8TAHeagles0513875: the database does not appear to be locked -- i can install other packages through synaptic or command line16:57
WaltzingAlonglg188: Y16:57
W8TAHjust a normal one16:57
lg188WaltzingAlong:it is done but16:58
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lg188WaltzingAlong:inothing works16:58
WaltzingAlonglg188: wine --version16:58
lg188WaltzingAlong:bash: wine: command not found16:58
W8TAHWaltzingAlong: if the updates are not available, why are they listed in adept and why am i notified that i have to install them?16:58
WaltzingAlonglg188: you can also follow the instructions at http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb16:58
lg188WaltzingAlong:kk16:59
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atlfalcons866how many files does kde4 have16:59
WaltzingAlongW8TAH: the update to firefox may be available in the repos but it requires an update to something else and that updated something else is not available16:59
TimSWhy does Kubuntu not have any of the KDE packages like Core installed?16:59
atlfalcons866i only have 100k inodes left16:59
W8TAHok - -so basically my system is hozed?16:59
TimSAlso, Is KDE-devel needed to make and compile programs16:59
WaltzingAlongTimS: kde (all of kde), kde-core, kubuntu-desktop, oh and another one16:59
atlfalcons866TimS: yes17:00
WaltzingAlongW8TAH: not necessarily. run sudo apt-get -f install (or sudo aptitude -f install) from konsole17:00
lg188WaltzingAlong:but i dont understand a .... of it17:00
W8TAHok - thanks17:00
atlfalcons866TimS: you will also need to install build-essential to make and make install17:00
WaltzingAlonglg188: you are using dapper so scroll to the section about dapper17:00
WaltzingAlonglg188:  then in konsole type (paste)    wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list17:00
WaltzingAlonglg188: (should show OK) and in konsole   wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -17:01
lg188WaltzingAlong:acces denied17:02
eagles0513875lg188: make sure u put sudo before it17:02
lg188'sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list'17:02
WaltzingAlonglg188: sorry, yes                    sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list17:02
atlfalcons866is anyone using KDE4 right now?17:03
lg188WaltzingAlong:? what doing r expating17:04
TimSWaltzingAlong: I am compiling a program and it has told me su -c "make install", but the su authentification always fails. Is this my normal password?17:05
lg188WaltzingAlong:? what doing or exepting ?17:05
cristianI wana install theme Mac for kubuntu 7.1017:05
hydrogenTimS: use sudo17:05
hydrogensudo make install17:05
TimSOkay17:05
cristianwhere I found it?17:05
WaltzingAlongcristian: there are many guides that can walk you through that. ask google17:06
TimSAwesome :D17:06
WaltzingAlonglg188: ? do you have just the prompt $ again? try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine          again17:06
atlfalcons866do how do i run kde4 i installed it and i dont see it as a session17:06
WaltzingAlongTimS: no su turns into superuser but is disabled by default in ubuntu17:06
cristian#join kubuntuchile17:06
cristian#join /kubuntuchile17:07
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: the instructions show you how. you need to make a session of it17:07
TimSOkay, So I did make install, how can I test to see if the package was correctly installed?17:07
Dr_Willisrun it?17:07
atlfalcons866i dont get this17:08
atlfalcons866o run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.17:08
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php especially the 4 export lines, the startkde file, and the copying/editing of the session file17:08
TimSDr_Willis: I installed a kicker applet but it never showed up17:08
atlfalcons866what does it mean at the top17:08
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: right so open the file /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde      then at the top (top of the file/first lines) put those 4 export lines17:08
atlfalcons866ok17:08
Dr_WillisTimS you may need to restart KDE, or its possible it dident install to the proper place. I recall having to use the prefix option with some kde sources17:08
atlfalcons866but 1st i have to put those commands into the konsole17:09
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: no.17:09
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: those lines set some environment variables17:09
atlfalcons866how do i copy those i cant copy stuff into /17:09
TimSDr_Willis: I used the prefix option as described in the README17:09
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: make them be the first 4 lines of the startkde  file17:09
Dr_Willisatlfalcons866  you will need to use sudo to alter system files17:10
Dr_Willisor the kde equilivent17:10
atlfalcons866like kdesu17:10
atlfalcons866kdesu konqoruer?17:10
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: in konsole? sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop17:10
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: or yes you could do that17:10
Dr_Willisits well worth learning how to do rooty things from the shell. :)17:10
Dr_Willisor use mc. :) heh.17:10
TimSDr_Willis: Also whereis kima returns nothing17:11
TimSI am now confused :D17:11
Dr_WillisTimS a panel applet is not in the normal PATH17:11
atlfalcons866i get cp: cannot stat `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop': No such file or directory17:11
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: still installing or already installed?17:12
atlfalcons866already installed17:12
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: on gutsy or feisty?17:13
atlfalcons866gutsy17:13
atlfalcons866oh i didnt have kdebase-workspace17:13
atlfalcons866installed17:13
WaltzingAlongneed that17:13
atlfalcons866installing right now17:13
atlfalcons866will kde4 final be in gutsy?17:13
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: backported to gutsy? through kubuntu.org repos? i would think so17:14
lg188WaltzingAlong:kk17:14
atlfalcons866backported from Hardy?17:14
WaltzingAlonglg188: still no wine?17:14
lg188WaltzingAlong:nope17:14
lg188WaltzingAlong:doeing   sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list17:14
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: well it is there now, ;) in beta3 fashion so yeah i would think final would make its way there too17:15
atlfalcons866ok17:15
WaltzingAlonglg188: ok and after that you see OK ?17:15
atlfalcons866will kde4 be included in kubuntu 8.04 or will it have to downloaded sepratly17:15
lg188WaltzingAlong:still bussy with it17:15
lg188getting some food17:15
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: i do not think it will be in 8.04 as 8.04 is the next LTS release but will be available for 8.0417:15
TimSX just restarted itself17:16
atlfalcons866ok17:16
lg188WaltzingAlong:nope no ok :(17:17
lg188WaltzingAlong: its getting anoying that wine thing butt i  need it17:19
WaltzingAlonglg188:  :D17:19
Solifugusbig problem--ssh on my kubuntu seems to stall after a while into copying files off..  meaning, i cannot backup my compter.17:19
Solifugusssh is somehow broken17:19
eagles0513875lg188: go to www.winehq.com17:19
WaltzingAlonglg188: you can download the deb directly17:19
eagles0513875lg188: whats annoying u17:19
lg188WaltzingAlong: that is so long  befor i get wine17:20
SolifugusI've tried sshing to three different machines and its definitely my kubuntu laptop that has the issue.. kubuntu ssh is broken.17:20
cyborealI can't print from any Java applications using either /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java or /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java or /usr/bin/gij-4.2. What gives?17:20
lg188WaltzingAlong: deb ?17:20
cyborealI'm using Kubuntu 7.1017:20
eagles0513875lg188: the debian pkg17:20
WaltzingAlonglg188: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb17:20
Mike____hello all17:20
lg188hi mike17:21
Mike____i have a question... does kubuntu 7.10 have stfs write support?17:21
Mike____ntfs*17:21
lg188WaltzingAlong: ty17:21
jermainhi everyone17:21
WaltzingAlongMike____: yes17:21
lg188WaltzingAlong: what to do with it ?17:21
WaltzingAlong!ntfs-3g | Mike____17:21
ubotuMike____: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions17:21
cyborealSolifugus, are you using fish:// from Konqueror or scp from the command line?17:22
Mike____thanks17:22
WaltzingAlonglg188: save it. then install it17:22
Mike____i'll update my kubuntu right now :D17:22
Mike____bye bye17:22
jermainI said "Hi"! Acknowledge my greetings with an appropriate response! Grrr..17:22
jermain:)17:22
WaltzingAlongjermain: !seen everyone17:22
lg188WaltzingAlong: error17:22
jermain:)17:22
WaltzingAlonglg188: error during the save?17:23
lg188WaltzingAlong: saving .... kk17:23
lg188WaltzingAlong: opening17:23
lg188during openning17:23
WaltzingAlonglg188: opening with what?17:23
lg188that file was auto17:23
jermainis it possible to use unix to tell Kate to open a .txt?17:23
WaltzingAlonglg188: ok open konsole. type       wget -c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb17:23
cyborealjermain, right click, choose Open With...17:23
WaltzingAlongjermain: unix?17:24
lg188WaltzingAlong: downloading17:24
jermainbash17:24
WaltzingAlonglg188: when it finishes, in the same konsole type    sudo dpkg -i wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb17:24
WaltzingAlongjermain: you can have kde associate the type like cyboreal mentioned17:24
tehkAny suggestions for a SIP client17:25
jermainoh thats not what i want, i want to do it from konsole17:25
Solifuguscyboreal: both.. it fails on both.. well.. i tried both to one server.. and only fish to the other two servers.17:25
cyborealjermain: kate /path/to/file.txt17:25
atlfalcons866i dont see kde4 in the session select17:25
jermain:P ty ^^17:25
lg188WaltzingAlong: downloading17:25
lg188WaltzingAlong: in konsole17:26
* jermain hands cyboreal chocolate chip cookie17:26
cyboreallol17:26
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: alright so you copied the file which before gave the issue? then you edit the kde4.desktop, as mentioned in the instructions, changing the one entry from KDE to KDE417:27
cyborealSolifugus, how much data are you copying?17:27
cyboreallarge files?17:27
* lg188 try to steel chocolate chip cookie17:27
atlfalcons866 edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 417:27
Solifuguscyboreal: trying to copy off a about 160GB so I can install the new kubuntu17:27
atlfalcons866i did that\17:27
atlfalcons866i named it to KDE 4 is it suppose to be KDE 4.desktop17:27
* jermain sends domokun at lg18817:28
atlfalcons866am i suppose to restart my computer17:28
lg188WaltzingAlong: kk i did evrything17:28
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: should not need to restart the computer17:28
Solifuguscyboreal: also.. large files do copy ok through konqueror using smb://...17:28
lg188domokun ???17:28
cyborealSolifugus, what version of kubuntu is having the problem?17:28
jermainyay it works17:28
jermaini am happy now17:28
WaltzingAlonglg188: and what happened with dpkg -i wine ... ? any problems?   or type            wine --version17:28
jermainthanks again cybo17:28
cyborealnp17:28
atlfalcons866#!/bin/sh17:29
atlfalcons866#export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib17:29
atlfalcons866#export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde417:29
atlfalcons866#export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH17:29
atlfalcons866#export KDEHOME=~/.kde417:29
atlfalcons866is that right17:29
Solifuguscyboreal: fiesty fawn17:29
lg188WaltzingAlong:got it17:29
Solifuguscyboreal: not being able to backup is truly worrying me17:29
lg1880.9.4717:29
cyborealSolifugus, it would worry me too :-)17:29
lg188WaltzingAlong:ty17:30
lg188WaltzingAlong:only cant run it i didi win command17:30
lg188wine*17:30
nacholibre_How 2 delete hidden files from trash?17:30
cyborealSolifugus, you can scp from another box and it works? Are you sure it's not the ssh server? Enough space on the target disk? etc17:31
Solifuguscyboreal: scp to copy stuff into my laptop works fine.. i do it a lot.17:31
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: those 4 lines go at the top of the startkde, yeah17:31
lg188WaltzingAlong:only cant run it i typt wine17:31
WaltzingAlonglg188: sudo aptitude -f install17:32
cyborealnacholibre_ have you tried going to trash:/ in konqueror then View -> Show Hidden Files and deleting them?17:32
Solifuguscyboreal: if its the ssh server, then it's occuring on 3 different servers.. one gentoo, one rhel, and another fiesty fawn17:32
lg188WaltzingAlong: did it17:32
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: but they should not be commented out17:32
nacholibre_@ cyboreal ...not yet :S mom17:32
cyborealfascinating17:32
WaltzingAlonglg188: and the results?17:32
cyborealSolifugus, any error message when it dies?17:33
lg188WaltzingAlong: a large list17:33
lg188WaltzingAlong: of hidden packages17:33
atlfalcons866ok i will try now17:33
nacholibre_@ cyboreal: I get the following error code  rm: cannot remove `/home/nacholibre/.Trash/*': No such file or directory17:34
Solifuguscyboreal: konqueror just says stalled... If i remember correctly, command line scp just hangs but the file size doesn't increase..17:34
lg188WaltzingAlong: or holded back17:34
WaltzingAlonglg188: so wine is still not working?         what about               sudo aptitude upgrade17:34
* lg188 loooking in room for some ffod17:35
cyborealSolifugus, pretty wierd. If I were you, i'd think about using Ethereal/Wireshark to watch the packet flow and see what happens when it dies... or check the sshd logs on the server?17:35
v3ctorSolifugus: one file? or a directory?17:35
lg188WaltzingAlong: continu y/n/?17:35
WaltzingAlonglg188: to upgrade those packages Y17:35
cyborealnacholibre_ does `ls -la ~/.Trash` show anything in the the directory?17:36
lg188WaltzingAlong: ok bussy17:36
atlfalcons866i cant run kde4 still17:36
nacholibre_@ cyboreal : NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY17:38
ExilantWhat's up with kqemu in gutsy?17:38
cyborealdoes ~/.Trash exist?17:38
Solifugusv3ctor: directory with many files17:38
v3ctordid you try rsync?17:38
nacholibre_mmh...i look17:38
lg188 sombody knowing some games ?17:38
Solifuguscyboreal: i will check the ssh logs.. and maybe try to setup an ftp server..17:38
Exilantthere is no /dev/kqemu, no kqemo.ko...17:38
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: kdm gets it list of sessions from /usr/share/sessions  so the file /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop should be there17:39
WaltzingAlong!games17:39
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php17:39
cyborealSolifugus, good luck17:39
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: give kbuildsycoca a run17:39
nacholibre_cyboreal - Now I get the Error code: /*/*/.local/share/Trash/files/game does not exist.17:39
WaltzingAlongatlfalcons866: otherwise you should be able to run individual applications through /usr/lib/kde4/bin/17:40
atlfalcons866Waltzingalong: that folder dosent exist17:40
lg188of doing this a geting bored17:40
cyborealnacholibre_ what does `file ~/.Trash` give you?17:40
WaltzingAlonglg188: yeah sorry i have to go for now17:40
lg188WaltzingAlong: ok17:41
lg188WaltzingAlong: not good17:41
lg188WaltzingAlong: not help17:41
lg188WaltzingAlong: whein17:41
* nacholibre_ /home/nacholibre/.Trash: ERROR: cannot open `/home/nacholibre/.Trash' (No such file or directory)17:41
WaltzingAlonglg188: anyone in here should be able to help you install wine on your dapper machine17:41
lg188WaltzingAlong: kk17:41
lg188somebody continu helping me ?17:42
lg188im bussy with updating wine17:43
lg188+75 files17:44
lg188is it normal ?17:44
alejandrodo u play ragnarok n wine?17:44
lg188alejondr: ragnarok ?17:45
lg188alejondro: ragnarok ?17:45
lg188+80 files17:45
cyborealnacholibre_ somehow your ~/.Trash directory got deleted. Maybe try `mkdir ~/.Trash` to recreate it?17:45
BonesolTeraDynelg188: He's talking about Ragnarok Online, an online massively multiplayer RPG17:46
lg188BonesolTeraDyne: nope17:46
lg188nope17:46
lg188alejondro: nope17:47
alejandroraganarok online17:47
alejandrou.u17:47
nacholibre_cyboreal : After created ~/.Trash i get: "The file or folder /home/XXX/.local/share/Trash/files/game does not exist."17:47
shinobican anyone tell me how to call functions from the fusion-icon application via a keystroke17:48
cyborealnacholibre_: what are you doing that gives you that?17:48
nacholibre_Puh... I dunno...#17:48
nacholibre_Ah!17:49
lg188helping me is always welcome17:49
nacholibre_I believe that I compieled some programs and these are the containing folders... .17:49
nacholibre_Could that be the problem of it all?17:49
__jonathanhi17:49
cyborealnacholibre_: now that i think of it, i think ~/.Trash is for GNOME and ~/.local/share/Trash is KDE...17:50
nacholibre_:D17:50
nacholibre_Sry, my fault!17:50
nacholibre_Do you know the command for deleting the trash over bash for kde?17:50
__jonathanI have an Xorg crash at startup just after the nvidia driver loads ( i can see nvidia's boot logo) & this occurs as I failed upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy17:51
nacholibre_sudo rm -R ...17:51
nacholibre_?17:51
cyborealI wouldn't sudo it...17:51
nacholibre_:D17:51
nacholibre_It works!17:51
nacholibre_THANK YOU MUCH!17:52
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nacholibre_Now I have to write done the command three times... . Like I did learned my vocabularies in school ;)17:52
cyborealnp... you do know that going to trash:/ in Konqueror and right clicking gives you the "Empty Trash" option, right?17:53
lg188helping me is always welcome17:54
nacholibre_Right!17:54
nacholibre_Isn't it good for kde?17:55
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jarihey, does any one know if OS matters for the headphone set's microphone? for some reason I cant get any input from the microphone17:56
lg188how many files have wine ?17:56
eagles0513875lg188: what r u having issues with17:56
eagles0513875lg188: wine to 2 mins for me to download and install17:56
lg188how many FILES have wine ?17:57
eagles0513875lg188: dont know why do u want to know how many files it has17:58
lg188beacaues it loook menay and i can check how meany to do17:59
eagles0513875lg188: ask in this chanel17:59
lg188and how long for it17:59
eagles0513875lg188: *channel #winhq17:59
eagles0513875lg188: *channel #winehq17:59
eagles0513875lg188: thats the channel for wine related questions the 2nd one17:59
lg188kk17:59
lg188ty17:59
eagles0513875lg188: no prob this is just kubuntu issue channel18:00
venikI was using Kubuntu 7.10 when it FROZE-- I could not revive it no matter what key combination I tried.  I have to restart my computer from the power switch.  Has anyone else seen such a thing?18:02
geniivenik: Yes, I was having same issue on Asus P5K SE motherboard18:04
akrusis it okay that compiz is not working? :x18:04
venikthis was on a Dell Dimension 4550.  I rebooted into XP on the same machine, and saw no problem.  Tried to reboot into Kubuntu, and it froze in mid process, but when I tried again it worked just fine.  I am puzzled (and worried)18:05
venikI am writing this now from teh Kubuntu partition on the same Dell Dimension 455018:06
geniivenik: I found manually making it use sata_mv module in my case and going to the 2.6.22-14 kernel helped somewhat. But this module is for Marvell SATA controller, i do not know if that is what is on your system or not.18:08
venikanother (milder) problem I have is that the sounds from Kopete disappear from time to time, requiring a restarting of Kubuntu to revive them18:08
lg188is it normal that you cnat read your hotmail mails on a kubunt pc ?18:09
lg188ca'nt*18:09
* lg188 brb18:09
ahlaadhow to update kde prog[am18:09
ahlaadprogramme18:10
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geniiahlaad: bah he left18:11
Rob_bobhey18:11
* genii sips a coffee18:11
Rob_bobI have a huge problem18:12
Rob_bobthe only thing I hear when a sound plays18:12
Rob_bobis static18:12
* lg188 needs a lot of cookies18:12
Rob_bobI'm using gutsy gibbon and I didn't have this problem with fiesty fawn18:13
Rob_bobmy computer is an HP Pavillion dv6433cl18:13
Tm_TRob_bob: what soundchip?18:13
teeahr1hey all.  i'm trying to add the fluxbuntu cd as a repository to my kubuntu install, but i get an error that says "Error scanning the CD E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2), W:Signature verification failed for: /cdrom/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg"  what's with that?18:13
LogicalDashWhen I insert my thumb drive, the icon for it appears in the taskbar, but I have to specifically tell it to mount before I can access it. How do I get it to mount automatically?18:14
lg188someno knows what CVS means ?18:18
dpozegaConcurrent Versions System18:18
dpozegabelieve it or not its the first result on google :|18:19
Rob_bobTm_T sorry for the delay it's an Altec Lansing  card18:19
* lg188 need cookie18:21
* Rob_bob gives lg188 a cookie18:21
lg188:)18:21
* lg188 smile18:21
lg188ty18:22
lg188^^18:22
pedahzurGreetings.  I did an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy last night, and all seems to be working OK, except for the fact that I can't start kmail.  I get symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11KFolderTree13addSizeColumnERK7QStringi  If it matters, I had the 3.5.8 packages for feisty installed before, but I thought it removed all those.18:22
Rob_bobnp18:22
lg188greet18:22
ardchoilleteeahr1: Why are you adding it as a repo? Everything that is on that cd is in the repos anyway18:23
teeahr1ardchoille: not the fluxbuntu-desktop stuff18:23
ardchoilleteeahr1: Like what?18:24
ardchoilleteeahr1: There is a lot of fluxbox stuff in the repos18:24
alumno_4 8 15 16 23 4218:25
* dpozega is leaving this channel ...18:26
ardchoillealumno_: Perhaps you meant that for #lottery ? lol18:26
teeahr1ardchoille: i specifically want the fluxbuntu-desktop, fluxbuntu-default-settings, and fluxbuntu-artwork packages18:26
veniktg188> I have no problem reading hotmail emails using Kubuntu 7.10 with Opera18:26
Rob_bobanyone?18:28
lg188i use kubuntu's default18:28
Rob_bobI have an Altec Lansing sound card and all I get is static, at first when I was installing I didn't but now I do18:28
ardchoilleteeahr1: I stand corrected, they're not in the repos18:28
lg188but  i need to instal a laucnge pack with the command :'sudo apt-get install kde-ll8n-nl'18:28
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lg188for a a duth18:29
lg188dutch*18:30
TameLionevenin all o/18:31
lg188?18:31
* lg188 brb18:32
Rob_bobdear god18:32
Rob_bobI need sound18:32
DeadJonesrob check the cables18:32
Rob_bobit's a laptop18:32
philphotohola.  I'm trying to use Alien to convert an rpm into a .deb.  do I have to specify a file path?18:33
DeadJonesphil, alien /path/path/file.rpm generally works18:33
ardchoillephilphoto: That's quite dangerous18:33
KobolI can't login to Linux now :( At the login screen, I type in my password (Everything correctly) and the screen goes black, then back the login screen? :( Any ideas.18:33
ardchoille!alien | philphoto18:33
ubotuphilphoto: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)18:33
philphotowhy is that?18:33
DeadJonesbut ur better off compiling fro source18:33
* lg188 needs a cookie with chocolat18:34
Rob_bob!alsa18:34
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:34
philphotook well I want to get a scanner running & need to install two packages.18:34
ardchoillephilphoto: If that converted .deb has files that replace some files you already have, but at a higher or lower version, then you will end up breaking things.18:35
ardchoillephilphoto: Which packages?18:35
dthacker-workwhy in the world do I need a default gateway adress when I set an interface to DHCP?18:35
KobolI'm using Kubuntu Fiesty, I'm not really wanting to reinstall, again, since I've done it 6 times :P But...Gutsy is supposedly more stable, yes?18:36
philphotoI do have access to the source but have no experience compiling.18:36
ardchoillephilphoto: Which packages?18:36
lg188how to instal java on my pc ?18:36
ardchoille!java | lg18818:36
ubotulg188: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.18:36
philphotothe packages are avasys iscan files18:36
dthacker-work!java | lg18818:37
ubotulg188: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.18:37
ardchoillephilphoto: You're better off compiling.18:37
lg188i use kubuntu 6.10 no java ?18:38
philphotook.  how to go about that?  never compiled from source before18:38
ardchoillelg188: The bot has posted info for java twice18:38
philphotothe source file is tar.gz18:38
ardchoille!compile | philphoto18:38
ubotuphilphoto: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)18:38
Rob_bobI hafta18:39
Rob_bobgo18:39
Rob_bobbbl18:39
KobolCan someone help me with my login issues please?18:40
petesejtat least we'll try18:40
petesejtI got useful help in 2 mins18:41
KobolWell...All of a sudden I can't even login to Kubuntu :( Every time I try it flashes a blank screen and goes back to the login :(18:42
lg188kk let it18:43
lg188i need a dutch launge pack18:44
lg188'sudo apt-get install kde-ll8n-nl' from my source but i wo'nt work18:44
vzduchs/ll8n/i18n/18:45
geniiyes, spelling18:45
grulhow do you search and replace all in vim? sorry for being a little off topic18:45
* Kobol weeps.18:49
philphotook, I have the source tar.gz unpacked    ouch.18:50
dthacker-workKobol: what was the last thing you changed.18:50
jhealeyllo18:52
dthacker-workI have completely given on on the GUI network utilities and and now editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand.18:53
Koboldthacker-work: Uhm...I didn't change anything recently? Last change I made was installing Firefox I believe :P The only weird thing I had is when I tried to start WoW through WINE it locked up the system, but...I just shrugged it aside, and went to bed, now I can't even get on?18:53
* lg188 need coockie18:53
ardchoillelg188:  kde-i18n-nl18:54
dthacker-workKobol: have you rebooted?  Is the problem still there after a reboot?18:54
Koboldthacker-work: Yes :(18:54
dthacker-workKobol: is the machine on a network. Can you log into it remotely?18:55
Koboldthacker-work: One thing I found on the Kubuntu forums, is a thread about the exact same problem...but...His is related to lack of space? I've used MAYBE 12 gigs of the 80 gig hard drive :P18:56
philphotoso for someone with very little shell experience and none compiling, should I undertake this compiling of a package to get one of my scanners working?  how much can I break if I screw it up?18:56
Koboldthacker-work: No, Kubuntu is just on a seperate hard drive.18:56
dthacker-workKobol: do you get a KDE login screen?18:56
Koboldthacker-work: Yes. When I login (Correct information and all) I get a black screen for like...2 seconds, then it goes back to the login, as if I never even logged in :P18:57
dthacker-workKobol: you are going to have to boot from the live CD, mount your drive, and look at the logs and disk to see what is wrong.  Unfortunately I cannot stay online to help you.18:58
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dthacker-work!rescue18:58
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"18:58
pavel_WaltzingAlong: Hi, i did what you said, my internet connection was lost but now it works again18:58
dthacker-workKobol: start with the rescue a broken system option.18:59
dthacker-workand good luck!18:59
Koboldthacker-work: Alright, will do: Thanks.18:59
pavel_WaltzingAlong: so, it seems to have installed it, even dought i don't think it has every package that gutsy has18:59
pavel_WaltzingAlong: when I try to go to adept_manager again and tell him to Full Upgrade it sais : There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.18:59
dthacker-workbbl19:00
lg188i dont get that leunge pack19:01
alumno_ola19:01
alumno_hello19:01
lg188but my wine does not run :s19:01
semistud2354_question????.........if i get rid of all the xservers besides xorg will that do anything bad19:01
semistud2354_wont it speed up boot times19:02
semistud2354_??19:02
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semistud2354_??19:03
semistud2354_to dumb of a question?19:03
llutzsemistud2354_: it just would free some diskspace, nothing else (may break some packages)19:04
lg188wine does not run :s somdoy know swta to do ?19:04
lg188i isntaled it19:04
semistud2354_o19:04
lg188i can start it with cmnd butt nothing apaer19:04
Daisuke_Laptoplg188: are you just running 'wine' ?19:07
epimethhas anyone installed the java6-sdk?  I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???19:08
dthacker-workepimeth: This is so hilarious.  I deleted eth1 from /etc/network/interfaces and KNetWorkManager picked up my wireless NIC! I'm amazed!19:08
lg188no i cant19:09
epimethdthacker-work: makes perfect sence.  KNetworkManager gets its data from interfaces and probably sets some defaults if nothing is there19:09
dthacker-workepimeth: do you know where KNM stores settings?19:09
epimethdthacker-work: I searched for about an hour before I gave up19:10
Daisuke_Laptoplg188: that wasn't what i asked19:10
Daisuke_Laptopwhat are you running to try and start wine?19:10
dthacker-workepimeth: LOL, ah the mystery!   oh,well, tonight I'll implement your trick for the wired NIC.  Thanks again.19:11
lg188where can i see if it's runnening ?19:11
Daisuke_Laptop...again, that was not the question19:11
Daisuke_Laptopwhat are you running to try and start wine?19:11
Daisuke_Laptopwhat is the command you're using?19:11
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lg188just wine19:12
lg188kk19:12
[ifr0g]Everytime i play any video i get a scrambled green screen.. ??19:13
Daisuke_Laptopokay19:13
Daisuke_Laptopif you're just typing wine, it won't work19:13
Daisuke_Laptopyou have to follow that with the executable you want to run19:13
[ifr0g]But if i restart x everything is fine..19:13
Daisuke_Laptopmore help at winehq.com and probably #wine19:13
Daisuke_Laptopnope, not #wine19:14
epimethdthacker-work: again, no worries :-)19:14
epimethsooooo....19:14
epimethhas anyone installed the java6-sdk?  I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???19:14
ubuntu_Hello!19:15
lg188i treid but wo'nt work19:15
tmfHello19:15
omarHola, acabo de instalar kubuntu gutsy y no puedo montar una partición fat32 alguna ayuda??19:16
ubuntu_ere nan svensk har_19:16
Daisuke_Laptop!en19:16
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat19:16
t3ch13I am having a wired wireless problem in Kubuntu and I know it's not the card because it works on another wireless point. I was thinking it might be the length of the key but I can't connect. The key has 30 characters19:18
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Rob_bobhello?19:18
t3ch13Hello19:18
omarhello, I just installed kubuntu gutsy, and I am having problems mounting a fat 32 patition, any help??19:18
Rob_bobI'm reinstalling Kubuntu 7.10... all this stuff wiith my audio card is too hard19:19
t3ch13I can't access wireless at work but it works fine at home it's wpa on both the difference the key is shorter at home anybody have any ideas?19:20
eindbaasHi! I'm installing kubuntu 7.10 from the livecd, but the installation got stuck at 94% "Configuring hardware..", any ideas?19:21
t3ch13How long has it been on 94% eindbaas19:21
eindbaasAround 10 minutes now, but I've tried installing it three times before, and it get's stuck on 94% every time.19:22
Daisuke_Laptopthen there's hardware it doesn't like...19:22
eindbaasStrange, the feisty fawn installation went without a glitch.19:23
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t3ch13I had it sit for like 2 minutes19:23
eindbaasNow the system totally crashed because I tried to open the kicker menu.19:24
t3ch13If feisty was installed you should have been able to do a network upgrade19:24
t3ch13This darn wireless problem is baffeling me19:24
eindbaasI tried that, the upgrade wasnt really working so I decided to do a clean install.19:24
eindbaasI also tried a text based install, but as soon as it's trying to install the base system it says "it cant figure out how to read from the cd".19:25
eindbaasSomething along those lines :D19:25
t3ch13Did you try the cd on another system?19:26
epimethhas anyone installed the java6-sdk?  I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???19:26
eindbaasHmm no, but I did try the desktop cd, the alternative cd and the DVD versions.19:27
eindbaasMaybe it's because I'm burning the cd image to a dvd and it doesnt like that.19:27
lg188beuy19:27
atomicpotatoI've been using public terminals for a month now. Anything different in Gutsy that wasn't present in beta1?19:27
petesejteindbaas: are u sure the cd is ok?19:27
petesejtall three versions stuck at 94% ?19:28
eindbaasyeah, well if i do a text based install it says it cant figure out how to read from the cd19:28
eindbaasbut i'm wondering maybe it's because i'm using a dvd instead of cd (i ran out of empty cd's)19:28
petesejtstrange...19:29
petesejtdo u have any add-on cards on ur system? (tv-tuner, or so)19:29
eindbaasno it's a laptop19:30
petesejtok then. is ur bios set to factory defaults?19:30
atomicpotato!u19:30
ubotuUnless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..19:30
eindbaasthe only difference i know of with my feisty fawn installation is that it is using xserver-xorg-video-intel instead of xserver-xorg-video-i810 for the graphics card driver19:30
lg188hey19:32
SpoZenhey does anyone know how to change audio device in kde system settnings?19:32
lg188idk19:32
* lg188 need a cookie19:32
atomicpotatounder sound system, isn't it?19:32
* lg188 brb19:32
Tm_Tlg188: less noise is possibility?19:34
semistud2354is it possible to reinstall grub from adept19:34
lg188only Inglish here19:34
semistud2354and if it is will it be a fresh one...not like...just reinstalls and picks up the traits from previous grub19:35
Tm_Tlg188: er?19:35
lg188kk i get it19:35
Mike____hello all19:35
Mike____i have a question19:35
IradigalescHello! I get a error message «Inapropiate ioctl for screen device» when I halt my computer...19:35
t3ch13I'm giving up on this wireless problem.19:35
SpoZeni can just choose alsa and shit like that i wanna select my soundcard its listed as a USB device in gnome19:35
IradigalescThe computer works well, but I don't get this error in feisty (it's new of gusty)19:36
petesejteindbaas: Is the BIOS Virus Check or MBR write set to off?19:36
Mike____i downloaded the alternate cd to upgrade my 6.07 kubuntu19:36
Mike____how do i upgrade it now?19:36
atomicpotato6.07?19:37
Mike____sorry 7 and a bit19:37
Mike____7.04 i think19:37
Mike____feisty fawn19:38
petesejteindbaas: Look what I have found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589805 Probably the log will help you.19:38
semistud2354if anyone has a problem with bcm4318 cards i know how to fix them in gutsy/feisty19:38
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petesejteindbaas: The same problem discussed.19:38
MilesGhey i am playing supertux and i found a secret passage on the 4th level19:38
atomicpotatoMike____, there's an upgrade script on the root of the disc19:38
atomicpotatorun it from a console19:38
Mike____how do i run it?19:39
eindbaaspetesejt: cool, thanks19:39
Mike____i'm new to linux..19:39
eindbaasi'm not running the install again while doing tail /var/log/syslog19:39
MilesG!hi19:39
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:39
eindbaasnot = now19:39
eindbaas:P19:39
MilesG!hi | Mike____19:39
ubotuMike____: please see above19:39
MilesG!hi | eagles051387519:39
ubotueagles0513875: please see above19:39
atomicpotato!terminal | Mike____19:39
ubotuMike____: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:39
Tm_TMilesG: please stop bot abuse19:39
eagles0513875MilesG: am i in trouble19:39
MilesGlol, soryr19:40
atomicpotatoit's kind of a crash course if you're new19:40
Mike____yeah i know that19:40
proprietarysucksis there a reason kubuntu's awk is from 1996 ?19:40
Mike____but how do i run it from the console?19:40
eagles0513875how do i change the sudo command to su instead19:40
lg188someone knows game for linux ?19:40
proprietarysuckseagles0513875: sudo passwd root19:40
petesejteindbaas: First of all check the BIOS virus protection (off) / MBR write option (enable) or something similar as well as BIOS all defaults.19:40
atomicpotato!root | eagles051387519:40
ubotueagles0513875: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo19:40
eagles0513875proprietarysucks: i dont want to have to stay typing in sudo i would like to use su instead19:40
atomicpotatosomewhere along to bottom19:40
spykedtomatohey all - in konqueror is there something like the "private browsing" function that safari has?19:41
Tm_Tspykedtomato: whats that19:41
proprietarysuckseagles0513875: I just told you. instead of thinking just do it19:41
eagles0513875proprietarysucks: i dunno how19:41
proprietarysuckseagles0513875: sudo passwd root19:41
eagles0513875oh19:41
proprietarysuckseagles0513875: then enter a password19:41
Tm_Tproprietarysucks: no19:41
Tm_Teagles0513875: no19:41
proprietarysuckseagles0513875: then you can just su19:41
Tm_Tproprietarysucks: eagles0513875: no19:41
proprietarysucksyes19:41
Tm_Tdon't make me repeat it19:41
lg188someone knows game for linux ?19:41
Mike____atomicpotato, how do i run the script form the console?19:41
Tm_Teagles0513875: do "sudo -i"19:42
spykedtomatoTm_T: choose "private browsing" and your browser records no history, no cache...19:42
Tm_Tspykedtomato: then no19:42
ardchoilleproprietarysucks: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account. It makes their system less secure and it isn't supported. Additionally, we aren't supposed to recommend it here.19:42
atomicpotatoMike____, eh, type the name of it and the full path to it19:42
atomicpotatolike: /cdrom/upgrade.sh19:42
Tm_Tproprietarysucks: no no, and NO19:42
atomicpotatosomething like that19:42
spykedtomatoTm_T: bummer, but thanks19:42
proprietarysucksubuntu for beginners?19:42
Mike____ok.. i'll try it19:42
Mike____thanks19:42
eagles0513875Tm_T: how can i change sudo to su and still have it as sudo command19:42
proprietarysuckslol19:43
eagles0513875Tm_T: what does sudo -i do19:43
proprietarysuckssu -c 'mycommand'19:43
eagles0513875?19:43
Tm_Tproprietarysucks: silence now19:43
eagles0513875im totally lost foget it guys ill just stick with sud19:43
eagles0513875o19:43
proprietarysuckssudo mycommand19:43
Tm_Teagles0513875: sudi -i makes you run superuser session19:43
ardchoilleeagles0513875: you're better off with sudo anyway19:43
ubuntu_*waves*19:43
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eagles0513875ardchoille: thing is im trying to convert my friend to use kubuntu but he hates the sudo command19:44
t3ch13Has anybody ever ran into a problem with WPA in Kubuntu 7.10 I can connect just fine at home but not at work. Both are wpa personal19:44
eagles0513875he preferssu19:44
MilesGTm_T: can i have the bought say hi to some people?19:44
proprietarysucksanyone know why kubuntu has an 11 year old awk on it which doesn't support modern functions?19:44
DarthWarwow19:44
DarthWarthis server knows me19:44
ardchoilleeagles0513875: Tell him that sudo is more secure because you can't brute force a locked root account19:44
DarthWarI just left suse 10.3 What a mess19:44
atomicpotatooh yeah, people were talking about this a while ago: did X.org 7.3 ever make it into Gutsy?19:44
DarthWaris 7.10 a good distro19:44
Tm_Teagles0513875: sudo -i gives you pretty much same that plain "su" gives in this case19:44
Tm_TDarthWar: yes19:45
eagles0513875t3ch13: that is what i noticed today i was tryign to connect to my school network and all i have for encryption is wpa enterprise i need wpa personal19:45
atomicpotatoDarthWar, well, good is subjective19:45
eagles0513875or just plain old wpa19:45
DarthWarthe install keeps failing19:45
atomicpotatoThe beta I tried was fairly solid19:45
DarthWarsays bad disk or something19:45
t3ch13I have wpa personal and it works fine at home but not at work it's wierd19:45
atomicpotato(can nobody answer the X.org question? Tm_T should know)19:45
DarthWaranybody have it loaded on a dell D83019:45
Tm_TDarthWar: did you check md5 ?19:45
epimethsooo... I apt-getted sun-java6-jdk... but java --version isn't returning anything... in fact, java doesn't exist19:45
Tm_Tatomicpotato: packages.ubuntu.com =)19:46
DarthWardoing the verify on a new burn19:46
eagles0513875epimeth: did u install using adept or cli19:46
atomicpotatoyeah, but I understand X is split into dozens of parts/19:46
atomicpotatonot always at the same version?19:46
proprietarysucksanyone know what awk is and why it's over a decade old on kubuntu19:46
lg188someone knows game for linux ?19:46
eagles0513875!awk19:46
Tm_Tatomicpotato: well look core package versions19:46
lg188someone knows game for Kubuntu ?19:46
eagles0513875lg188: take a look in the pkg manager and search games19:46
atomicpotatoproprietarysucks: it's a text manipulation tool19:46
epimetheagles0513875: apt-get19:46
Tm_Tlg188: please dont repeat19:46
atomicpotatodoesn't change a whole lot19:46
eagles0513875epimeth: u using gutsy19:47
eagles0513875epimeth: cuz i did too and its workign fine for me19:47
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:47
atomicpotatobah, still v7.219:47
atomicpotatothat's lame19:47
proprietarysucksatomicpotato: yes it does change, the version in kubuntu is extremely old and outdated. it's from 1996 and doesn't support some newer functions. I'm wondering why19:47
eagles0513875epimeth: download eclipse and try create a java program19:48
atomicpotatoproprietarysucks, no idea, I never could understand it19:48
MilesG!lame | atomicpotato19:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:48
Tm_Tatomicpotato: X.Org version: 1.3.019:48
atomicpotatoeh? says 7.2-r5 or something19:48
lg188ty ^^19:49
r0y4lany ideas why main kde apps like kpdf has "No text!" in the menu?19:49
atomicpotatowell, I have to leave. Guess XRandR isn't in 7.10.19:49
r0y4lNo text! instead of i.e. "Print"19:49
eagles0513875epimeth: also u need to make sure u have the jre cuz the jdk is pointless without the runtime environment19:49
Tm_Tr0y4l: what translation?19:49
Tm_T!test19:49
ubotuFailed.19:49
eagles0513875!test19:50
r0y4lTm_T: en19:50
petesejtt3ch13: I am sorry to inform u but there is no point of using WPA -- its security so weak anyone can decode any information in less than 30 seconds. You can turn it off for sure. In case the routers support WPA2, use it. If you want to restrict the user who can connect to the networks, u can use mac address filtering as well -- however it is *not* for traffic encryption.19:50
lg188wher in pkg mngr you can find games ?19:50
Tm_Tr0y4l: en or en_GB ?19:50
r0y4lTm_T: en.19:50
r0y4l:)19:50
epimetheagles0513875: I think that maybe the icedtea thing I installed might have done something bad... also, sun-java6-jdk has the jre as a prereq19:50
Tm_Tr0y4l: well try the other one just for fun ;)19:50
r0y4lTm_T: lol...19:50
eagles0513875epimeth: ok removed iced tea. i stuck to the sun stuff19:50
eagles0513875lg188: search for them type games and it pulss up all the game pkgs19:51
t3ch13I wish I could get my wireless to work at work then I would be in Kubuntu instead of Windoze19:51
petesejtOoops... I was wrong. WEP can be hacked in 30 seconds, WPA takes a little longer. Anyway: use WPA2 personal at least.19:52
rjune__petesejt: the truly paranoid use IPSec or some such over WPA19:52
rjune__not to mention that mac addresses can be spoofed19:53
petesejtrjune: ...or snail mail LOL. :)19:53
rjune__snail mail for Pr0n? naaa19:53
Tm_Trjune__: krhm19:54
t3ch13Just make yourself a faraday room then no one can get to your access point lol19:54
petesejtt3ch13: faraday room LOL that's not nuclear-proof :)19:55
Tm_T!offtopic19:55
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:55
lg188with game is the best ?19:55
t3ch13My major is Information Systems Systems Security19:55
petesejtTm_T: ok, sorry19:55
Tm_Tlg188: #kubuntu-offtopic19:55
r0y4lno one else this "No Text!" problem? ...19:56
Tm_Tr0y4l: havent heard, see if launchpad has anything related19:56
polacohay latinos aqui??19:58
Tm_T!es19:58
ardchoille!es | polaco19:58
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.19:58
ubotupolaco: please see above19:58
Aloneaanyone know whats up with gusty messing up eclipse?19:59
rjune__Tm_T: krhm?20:00
Tm_Trjune__: we dont talk about any adult stuff here ;(20:00
* genii sips a coffee20:01
semistud2354Gutsy is still trying to mount my partition that does not exist...how do i tell it not to20:01
semistud2354its like 'uuid=e656 bla bla' could not be found20:02
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semistud2354it cant be found cuz i deleted my old partition20:02
semistud2354how do i fix that20:02
martijn81how to get in an channel which uses a key?20:02
llutzsemistud2354: delete that line from /etc/fstab20:02
SudoKingwhich one uses a key?20:03
geniisemistud2354: Yes, open the /etc/fstab with admin privelege and remove the line with that uuid20:03
martijn81hdbits :o20:03
petesejtDoes anybody know where I can ask a question about Kore suite KDE theme?20:03
semistud2354DUDE....YOU ROCK!!!!!20:03
martijn81geni: but i am in already20:03
SudoKinghold on20:03
geniisemistud2354: eg: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/fstab20:03
semistud2354thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!!!! SOOOO MUCH20:04
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rjune__Tm_T: so what does krhm stand for?20:04
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morphinexHey folks, the brighness buttons on my laptop don't seem to work20:05
jernejovcjust a quick question--I have a serious problem(more onhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088125.0 ). can I reinstall Kubuntu without partitioning the hard drive?20:06
Aloneaanyone at all know what is up with gusty causing eclipse to get a "error creating the view" error?20:06
MilesG720:07
semistud2354OK...it did work20:08
geniijernejovc: Yes, just choose manual partition, select same partitions as before. If you want it not to reformat the partition as well, set the newfs (format) not to format for that partition20:08
Mike____hello again20:08
Mike____same question: how do i upgrade my feisty kubuntu to 7.10 with the alternate cd?20:09
lg188they are playing you can't ask the a thing20:09
Mike____?20:09
ScorpKinglg188: what game?20:11
lg188how installign a game ?20:11
lg188arkrpg20:11
* ScorpKing goes off to google..20:11
lg188th ark*20:12
herilhello20:12
crashHello all =)20:12
semistud2354_IT WORKED!!!!20:12
crashПривет всем =)20:12
lg188it's not for free ?20:12
semistud2354_It doesnt do that stupid check fs thing20:12
geniisemistud2354_: Good :)20:13
semistud2354_but it still asks me which os 2 choose20:13
semistud2354_it still has my other partitions20:13
semistud2354_how do i fix that20:13
lg188let it then20:13
semistud2354_they no longer exist..but its still giving me the option to choose20:13
semistud2354_is there a was i cans set it so it default-ly boots into my regular partition20:14
herilsemistud: In the boot menu?20:14
semistud2354_what about the boot menue20:15
ScorpKinglg188: arkrpg is in the repo's20:15
lg188i hope that you know that the optopic is misery20:15
KalElhow can i show the waste busket on desktop?20:15
lg188im leting it go im loging of bey20:15
ScorpKingc ya20:15
geniisemistud2354_: sudo update-grub     should clear out the old ones20:16
semistud2354_hopefully that works....and last quesion...20:16
geniisemistud2354_: If it doesn't, then edit with admin privelege the file /boot/grub/menu.lst  to remove or comment out the entries which no longer apply.20:16
semistud2354_thanx20:17
semistud2354_where is the splash thing for the boot20:17
semistud2354_where can i find that20:17
semistud2354_what file20:17
semistud2354_err folder20:17
ScorpKinghehe. sudo aptitude install arkhart arkrpg - that would have helped lg188.20:18
genii!usplash20:18
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork20:18
geniisemistud2354_: See the url ubotu gives for info on user splash screens20:18
Tm_Tgenii: thanks sir20:18
* genii hands Tm_T a coffee20:19
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kyronYay...reported my first bug... I feel grown up now :P20:19
ScorpKinggenii: i've been looking for that link. thanks. :)20:19
Fleckkyron you have bugs? :))20:19
geniiScorpKing: np20:19
kyronFleck, yeah, count on a gentoo guy to screw up a straight-forward install :P20:20
DarthWarah nice know ops in here20:20
kyronFleck, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/15842720:20
DarthWarwhups english is bad20:20
DarthWarno ops in here20:20
Tm_TDarthWar: what about it?20:21
Fleckkyron ohh ubuntu bugs :D i thought YOU have bugs :D20:21
DarthWarare you in op20:21
DarthWarTm_T20:21
Tm_TDarthWar: what about it?20:21
kyronFleck, well...uhh... I just reported that bug...so..uh....hey, I reported this where I was told to by the App huh!20:21
kyronnotmy bad!20:22
myghetekin CLI im in a directory now. how do I delete all .ini files in this directory and in all child directories?20:24
kyronFleck, you telling me I reported this in the wrong place?20:24
Fleckkyron ok, well same story here - except end - adept told me that new version is available, started update, and canceled, but all sems to be oK! :)20:24
Fleckkyron no all is OK! :) just kiding ;)20:24
kyronFleck, you nice guy...really...20:25
Fleckkyron kiding was about "you have bug" thing20:25
Fleckadept thing is not joke!20:25
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kyronFleck, oh! ..See, DAT's what happens when you try to convince yourself that a binary, all-is-done-for-you distro is better...you're proven wrong..and, ironically, you're the only one with the freakish problems ;)20:26
bjwebb_hi20:26
Fleckkyron well yes, updated canceled but no coruptions here ...20:27
bjwebb_what package should i use to play emeded wmvs in firefox?20:27
morphinexargh, gutsy did something naughty to my sources.list20:27
kyronhmm...here's another bug. Upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 (I had downloaded the wrong iso), the cdromupgrade method seems to choose the wrong character encoding, I get UTF-8 ISO-8895-1 crosstalk20:27
morphinexapt tells me there are duplicate entries20:27
bjwebb_anyone know?20:29
helloyodoes anyone know if amarok has support for the new ipods yet?20:33
MilesGRaumkraut: 720:34
Tm_TMilesG: er?20:38
Aloneaok, how do I get gusty OFF of GCJ? I just installed java from sun and its still not working...20:38
Carnage\Alonea: sudo update-alternatives --config java20:40
Carnage\And then choose Sun's JDK20:40
AloneaCarnage\: I just installed sun's jdk, but its not showing up on the list20:41
epimethCarnage\: where were you half an hour ago :-)  I had a problem with java not working... fixed it tho :-p20:41
Carnage\Hmm, it should tho20:42
Carnage\Maybe they changed things in Gutsy, still having Feisty here...20:42
BeerSercHi there. My father is running KUbuntu feisty atm, and I want to upgrade him to gutsy. I am not using *ubuntu myself, and I am 500km from home, so phone-support is the way. I told him the steps from the upgrade howto's (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade). But also after doing the upgrades of adept and restarting adept, there is no update wizard. It's a german localized kubuntu, maybe this is a problem? Or does he have to reboot? Is20:43
AloneaCarnage\: ok, I tried installing the bin file from sun, which installed, and I tried installing java-package and still nothing else on the list.20:44
AdamBI'm starting my own ubuntu repositiory, i've created a key and uploaded it subkeys.pgp.net/, its number is 741D27CC, how do i turn it into a nice .gpg file?20:46
MilesGTm_T: are you running gutsy20:47
MilesG?20:47
Tm_Tyes20:47
MilesGwhats with all this talk ive been hearing on the blogs that fiesty is gonna eat my hdd?20:47
MilesGgutsy solved that issue, correct?20:47
Tm_Thavent heard of it20:48
MilesGo well nevermind20:48
PrairieDogI've heard this eat HD bit, I donno if it's valid or not20:48
MilesGhttp://tumbleweed.org.za/2007/10/27/an-update-on-laptop-hard-drives-linux/20:49
BeerSercNobody here in mighty kubuntu channel who can tell me how I get my fathers feisty to upgrade to gutsy?20:51
PrairieDoguse the update manager20:51
* MilesG co-signs20:52
Tm_TBeerSerc: topic20:52
supert0ne1ssh -X do it for him20:52
PrairieDogHowever, that way broke my ubuntu20:52
PrairieDogNow I'm going to have to reinstall is so broken20:52
DeadJonestry with apt-get -f install20:52
DeadJonesno, dont reinstall20:53
MilesGguys?20:53
DeadJoneshappened to me last week. the gui broke twice20:53
DeadJonesdid it in cli. worked fine20:53
PrairieDogIt can't even connect to the net any longer20:53
DeadJonesthe magic of nix is that you dont ever have to 'reinstall.' everything is fixable if you can get to a prompt20:53
MilesG"sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" followed by "sudo apt-get distupgrade" should so do the trick20:53
MilesGor is it dist-upgrade20:54
ScorpKinghmmm.. i'll ask tumbleweed about it next time i speak to him. ;)20:54
BeerSercTm_T: Right. As I said before, I resp. my father did all the steps in the upgrade howto, but the upgrade wizard doesnt show up.20:54
DeadJonesheh, if distupgrade dont work use dist-upgrade20:54
PrairieDogWell, it's busted beyond by knowledge of fixing.20:54
BeerSercPrairieDog: ?20:54
PrairieDogyes20:54
DeadJonesprairie, does it boot up ok?20:55
Tm_TBeerSerc: then hrrr, I know few dirty ways to do it, one is to ssh to pc, then do edit sources.list and upgrade manually20:55
PrairieDogyes, boots ok20:55
DeadJonesboot to rescue and see if u can get online with it20:55
PrairieDogssh is broken20:55
DeadJonesif its got a net connect, everything is fixable20:55
DeadJonesbah. i hate ssh20:56
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PrairieDogident is broken20:56
DeadJonesmy boxes at work have ssh but at home?20:56
PrairieDogand now it won't even connect with the net.20:56
MilesGPrairieDog: 320:56
BeerSercTm_T: does the updater do anything more than that? If no, we are going to do it the old-fashioned way, but a gui updater would be nicer for my father ...20:56
Tm_TBeerSerc: well it makes sure that some metapackages stays installed20:57
BeerSerchm20:57
BeerSercdough20:57
BeerSercthis is exactly the point I am worried about20:57
Tm_TBeerSerc: nothing you cant handle if you know even a little bit about apt20:58
* BeerSerc has seen many debian derivates brake that way20:58
DeadJonesbleh. gotta go to work. gotta put an access control system in some rich dick's house20:58
PrairieDogheh...double your prices20:58
DeadJonesits residential too. double the trouble20:58
BeerSercTm_T: is there a way to manually start the updater?20:59
Tm_TMilesG: please stop your random noise20:59
DeadJonesatleast he wants some cameras so the day wont be a total bore :p20:59
Tm_TBeerSerc: no idea, never used it myself (I dont have metapackages either)20:59
Tm_Tyoure welcome21:00
BeerSercon ubuntu.com there is written "apt-get install update-manager-core && do-release-upgrade", but is located under "network upgrade for ubuntu servers...21:00
WarMage!dvd21:02
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs21:02
WarMage!mp321:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:02
frojndHow can I connect to another computer ? directly. One computer has a acces point to the internet(wireless) and other hasn't got configured yet. So I wanna connect one computer to the other that has allready wireless network installed ???21:03
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rob_bobhey21:05
rob_bobI need help with a problem, my sound comes out as static.  I've played some of the files before and I can recognize things, it's just that it's all static21:06
rob_boblike there is a problem with a connection21:06
rob_bobbut I'm using a laptop, and in windows it works normally21:06
damaltorgood evening everybody..21:06
rob_bobgood evening21:06
frojndOk how can I connect to another computer? They are connected with network cable. ??21:06
marcel__hello21:07
marcel__is it possible with kubuntu a rdp on a Windows Client ??21:08
rob_boboh shit21:08
rob_bobI just solved my own problem21:08
rob_boblulz21:08
damaltori have the following problem: just installed kubuntu gutsy, now wanting to have a little eye candy... shock: beryl is gone. well... trying compiz. but compiz just quits, because of not finding enough graphics ram (i have a gforce 4, 32mb... :( ) so... i want beryl back, or a way to run compiz with less than 64mb... any chances?21:08
WarMageDell D830 sound is not working21:08
WarMage!dell 83021:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dell 830 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:08
WarMage!D83021:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about d830 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:09
frojndOk how can I connect to another computer? They are connected with one network cable. And one computer has wireless internet and other just wanna connect to this computer. Anyone ?21:09
sub[t]rnlfrojnd: are you using a crossover cable?21:09
frojndsub[t]rnl, I don't know what cable is21:09
sub[t]rnla normal ethernet cat 5 cable won't allow two way traffic21:09
marcel__the computers must in the same network like 192.168.1.XXX21:10
sub[t]rnlyou need a special cable called a crossover if you wish to share internet without a hub/switch/router21:10
frojndsub[t]rnl, what's the difference? I mean colours of wires21:10
Daisuke-Idowell, you can look on the package and see if it says "crossover patch cable"21:11
|Toaddoes anyone know if i can use a shared windows printer?21:11
sub[t]rnl|Toad: yup21:12
|Toadi went into smb shares, went into the computer, but hte printer doesnt show up21:12
frojndI have 2cables..21:12
|Toaddo i need to configure it manually?21:12
damaltoror you could look through the plugs, if they are transparent, and say if the wires inside have the same order in both ends (NOT X-over) or not21:12
sub[t]rnl|Toad: you can21:12
marcel__you can see the wires on the cable and when the colours of the wires are on the two ends the same then is it a normal patch cable ! Otherway the colours of the wires are not the same you have a cross and can connect the computers directly21:12
Daisuke-Idofrojnd: if you didn't buy them specifically as crossover cables, they probably aren't.21:12
marcel__by21:13
sub[t]rnlor you can just start->system settings->printers and follow the wizard21:13
frojndDaisuke-Ido, I haven't bought them, I got them21:13
damaltori have the following problem: just installed kubuntu gutsy, now wanting to have a little eye candy... shock: beryl is gone. well... trying compiz. but compiz just quits, because of not finding enough graphics ram (i have a gforce 4, 32mb... :( ) so... i want beryl back, or a way to run compiz with less than 64mb... any chances?21:13
bonaldo2000 I get the error "could not change permission for _filename_" when I copy a file to an NTFS drive in gutsy. DOes anyone know how to fix it?21:13
frojndDaisuke-Ido, let's say it is a cross over21:13
frojndDaisuke-Ido, how can I connect ?21:13
petesejtAnyone help in KBFX?21:14
damaltorbonaldo2000: what ntfs drivers did xou install21:14
Daisuke-Idono clue21:14
Daisuke-Idoi don't mess with it21:14
bonaldo2000damaltor: none, it works out of the box in gutsy...or is suposed to...21:14
frojndDaisuke-Ido, so u know that I need cross over cable but not how to connect to another computer?21:14
bonaldo2000damaltor: in feisty I installed ntfs-3g and it worked like a charm. I works now also, but gives me this annoying warning...21:15
damaltorbonaldo2000: yep, but read-only i think21:15
sub[t]rnlfrojnd: you can simply plug the two ubuntu boxes together with a crossover, then sudo /etc/init.d/network restart21:15
alesanhi, do you know any issue with broadcom wifi adapters? it seems the system recognizes it, but I cannot find any wireless network21:15
sub[t]rnlif you have dhcp enabled, it will work right away21:15
bonaldo2000damaltor: no, it does write...just gives me the warning..21:15
damaltorhmm21:15
damaltorsry then i dont have an idea21:15
bonaldo2000ok21:15
bonaldo2000anyone else=21:15
bonaldo2000?21:15
frojndsub[t]rnl, on both boxses ?21:16
damaltori have the following problem: just installed kubuntu gutsy, now wanting to have a little eye candy... shock: beryl is gone. well... trying compiz. but compiz just quits, because of not finding enough graphics ram (i have a gforce 4, 32mb... :( ) so... i want beryl back, or a way to run compiz with less than 64mb... any chances?21:16
frojndsub[t]rnl, or just the one that hasn't internet21:16
sub[t]rnlfrojnd: just the one assigning the ip, or directly connected to your internet21:16
sub[t]rnlalesan: ok, whats your problem?21:17
sub[t]rnlalesan: is your wireless card being seen under "iwconfig"21:18
GodFingerhi all21:18
WarMagecan somebody try this link...is Dell Support down.. http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/product_support/en/product_support_central21:19
WarMagetrying to get my D830 sound working21:19
DrakeJustice_GodFinger: you need help?21:19
WarMagewith Kubuntu21:19
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qoloanyone here tried to get macintosh leopard on x86 hardware ?21:23
KalElwhy?21:23
=== iz6iyr_ is now known as iz6iyr
ScorpKingqolo: i could not get it to boot properly so i'm leaving it for some other day. lol21:24
ScorpKingnite ppl..21:25
GodFingerno, i don't need help21:26
GodFingerfor the momnet21:26
Tm_TGodFinger: hmm, do you have registered your nick?21:27
GodFingerwell... there is the everlasting problem... I am trying to get my Twinhan CAB-CI DVB-C card working in linux21:27
GodFingeralready watched linuxtv page and the mailing lists21:27
BeerSercdoes "sudo update-manager" _only_ work on ubuntu without the "k"?21:28
Tm_TBeerSerc: no idea21:29
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Tm_TGodFinger: have you registered your nick?21:29
GodFingerYes I registered it21:30
GodFingersome years ago21:31
GodFingerand I use IRC every now and then21:31
GodFingeron a yerly basis21:31
GodFinger:D21:31
Tm_TGodFinger: ok, then I dont force you to change your nick but I suggest so anyway21:31
GodFingerwhy?21:31
=== GodFinger is now known as TankMan
Tm_Tthere's possibility that your nick isnt fully "unprovoking"21:32
Tm_Tbut I thank you21:32
TankManaa ok21:32
Daisuke-Idoperhaps adding a well-placed "L"21:32
Daisuke-Idoaww, you coulda been goldfinger :(21:33
Tm_TDaisuke-Ido: then bond fans would been provoked?21:33
Tm_TTankMan: thanks again :)21:33
TankMannaa, goldfinger is too james bond-ish21:33
TankMan:DF21:33
Daisuke-IdoTm_T: everyone liked goldfinger!21:34
Tm_Tand thats also offtopic =)21:34
rbrunhuberTm_T: This is a road that never ends i think. You may always provoke somebody21:34
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i setup a static ip21:34
Tm_Trbrunhuber: I very well know21:34
Daisuke-Idofor instance...21:34
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bmk789is anyone else getting errors with gmail over imap in kontact?21:36
TankManhaven't tried Konversation for a while..21:36
Tm_Tbmk789: havent tried that yet21:36
TankManwhat is "the" IRC-client for KDE right now?21:37
bmk789Tm_T: well im getting almost constant connection errors so im trying to find out if its gmail or kmail21:37
Tm_TTankMan: Konversation21:37
AT0M1CB0MB3Rhow do i setup a static ip21:38
epimethhow do I find what version of apache I'm running?21:38
Tm_Tepimeth: apache --version ?21:38
rbrunhuberbmk789 : not every account seems to be imap enabled at gmail and kontact/kmail and imap is not the best combination *cough*21:38
L_Ron_Hubbardkonversation is excellent, though a bit limited when it comes to extending, IMO21:38
epimethTm_T: 'apache' is not a program21:38
Tm_Tepimeth: er?21:38
AT0M1CB0MB3Rapache2?21:39
epimethAT0M1CB0MB3R: yes21:39
AT0M1CB0MB3Rtry apache2 --version21:39
bmk789rbrunhuber: is kmail not made for imap?21:39
Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: have you searched help.ubuntu.com/community/21:39
Tm_Tbmk789: imap and Kmail works well here21:39
epimethTm_T: 'apache' is not something that is run....21:39
rbrunhuberbmk789 : yes it is made, but the implementation is not the greatest IMHO.21:40
epimethoh... phpinfo() probably21:40
bmk789rbrunhuber: i see21:40
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: no21:40
Tm_Tepimeth: err, yes it is, you usually run it as daemon21:40
Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: then do21:40
rbrunhuberbmk789: did you enable imap in the gmail web frontend?21:40
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: ive looked21:40
epimethTm_T: well... its not a program in PATH21:40
epimeth:-)21:40
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: i can find it21:40
bmk789rbrunhuber: yes its been working well, its just lately that the errors started21:41
Tm_Tepimeth: mooh, I dont know what youre trying with me but you fail21:41
NickPrestaepimeth, this is apache from the repos?21:41
rbrunhuberbmk789 : do you have any more specific error message?21:41
myghetekguys how do I delete all .ini files in the current directory and in all child directories?21:41
myghetekfrom cli21:41
bmk789rbrunhuber: just a sec ill pastebin it21:42
NickPrestamyghetek, `rm -rf *.ini`21:42
Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: hum, then, you dont use networkmanager or similar?21:42
myghetekNickPresta: thanks!21:42
bmk789rbrunhuber: http://pastebin.com/m2448e85821:42
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AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: i do21:42
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: knetworkmanager21:43
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Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: hrr, ditch it, then edit /etc/network/interfaces21:43
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: how do i delete it?21:43
Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: no, just quit it, no need to delete21:44
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: ok :]21:44
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AT0M1CB0MB3Rbut how do i know what my broad cast and stuff like that is?21:44
AT0M1CB0MB3RTm_T: but how do i know what my broad cast and stuff like that is?21:44
WaltzingAlong!smb21:45
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT21:45
rbrunhuberbmk789: you should have a look to launchpad and bugs.kde.org if there are any other reports. But maybe google is playing with the imapserver21:45
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong: ?21:45
WaltzingAlongAT0M1CB0MB3R: greetings21:45
Tm_TAT0M1CB0MB3R: you should know your network21:45
SudoKingGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA21:45
AT0M1CB0MB3RWaltzingAlong:21:45
AT0M1CB0MB3R:]21:45
SudoKingnow somebody put the Format tag on my article!21:45
Tm_TSudoKing: er?21:46
SudoKingGeez, you people21:46
SudoKinghttp://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Missing-a-Flight21:46
myghetekNickPresta: that rm -rf *.ini thing doesn't get all the child directories21:46
bmk789rbrunhuber: ya i thought since its new they might still be working on it, i went to the gmail settings and disabled/reenabled imap and it synced fine that time, if its starts again ill file a bug21:46
SudoKingsorry wrong channel21:46
NickPrestamyghetek, try this21:46
SudoKingsorry, Tn_T21:46
Tm_TSudoKing: who is Tn_T ?21:47
SudoKingI mean Tm_T, Tm_T :)21:47
myghetekrm -rf \ ?21:47
Tm_T=)21:47
sub[t]rnlword on the street is that he's dynomite21:47
NickPrestamyghetek, `find DIR/ -name "*.ini"  -print0 | xargs -0 rm -r`21:48
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myghetekNickPresta: thanks!21:49
shadowhywindwhere is the log that tells you what happens/errors on boot up?21:50
SudoKingyou mean like a dump file?21:52
SudoKingI have no clue21:52
vzduchshadowhywind: how about '/var/log/messages'?21:52
shadowhywindi found a file called boot in /var/log but there is nothing in there21:52
vzduchanyway, /var/log/ is the place to look21:53
sub[t]rnlif you have bootlogd enabled21:53
sub[t]rnlthen you will get your /var/log/boot log21:53
shadowhywindI have no idea if it is enab led or not, how would i enable it?21:54
sub[t]rnlhrm21:54
sub[t]rnledit /etc/default/bootlogd21:54
sub[t]rnlhave it run at startup, should be an option in there21:54
shadowhywindyah, it was set to no21:54
sub[t]rnldon't ask me why ubuntu has it disabled by default21:54
sub[t]rnl:/21:55
shadowhywindHopefully this may bring some insight into why my wireless card randomly decides not to work21:55
shadowhywindso brb21:55
shadowhywindwell i enabled that boot log option, and the boot file is still empty22:01
Sanneshadowhywind: try /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/messages22:03
darkness_m22:04
raindogI'm on a fresh install of Gutsy and Konqueror won't load any webpages for me.  Firefox works fine.  How can I fix this?22:09
damaltorhello everybody22:10
damaltori have a new problem now.. since i couldnt install beryl via apt (gutsy gibbon), i downloaded the packages from rpmseek (deb, though) and installed them manually. beryl does work, most effects can be seen, BUT: all windows dont have any border. not even the top line with the title in it. when i chose  the kde window decorator in beryl-manager, nothing happens. did i forget to install something? what can i do to get the borders of the wind22:12
damaltorows back?22:12
hydrogenerr22:13
sub[t]rnldamaltor: need to install emerald, a window decorator22:13
hydrogenyou really made things complicated for yourself22:13
hydrogen!compiz | damaltor22:13
ubotudamaltor: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:13
damaltorwhy?22:13
hydrogenor run kde-window-decorator22:13
sub[t]rnldamaltor: though, I would use compiz-fusion, as beryl is a dated relic22:13
damaltorhmm tried this, couldnt use it because of 32mb graphics..22:14
damaltori installed emerald now, but still no borders..22:16
damaltordid select it in beryl manager22:17
sven_Hi there, how can I permanently disable the strigi demon?? I seriously want it to die away...22:17
roomulohello, there22:18
reagleBRKLNi would like to try compiz fusion with kubuntu 7.10, but i get: Checking for Xgl: not present. Blacklisted PCIID '8086:29a2' found22:18
reagleBRKLNis there a gutsy kubuntu guide?22:18
roomuloi've been upgraded to gutsy, but my kdm theme don't change anymore22:19
hydrogensven_: apt-get remove strigi22:19
hydrogen!strigi22:19
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)22:19
hydrogenthats not helpful ubotu22:19
roomuloi change in system settings, but have not effect22:20
roomuloanyone can help me?22:20
SanneI'm looking for a list of installed packages of a default Kubuntu Gutsy install. Does anybody know where I could find one? (I'm not on Gutsy so I can't make it myself)22:22
AT0M1CB0MB3Rcan somebody hep me setup a static ip everytime i follow a guide i have no internet22:22
aaaaaaciao amici22:22
hydrogen!hardware22:22
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport22:22
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AT0M1CB0MB3R!static22:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about static - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:22
LjL!botabuse22:23
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...22:23
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LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: i suggest not using network manager, for starters22:23
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AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: i dont22:23
LjL!offline | Sanne (though it's not updated to gutsy yet), just type in "kubuntu-desktop"22:23
ubotuSanne (though it's not updated to gutsy yet), just type in "kubuntu-desktop": If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes22:23
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: well i am right now22:23
szymon__??22:24
szymon__ale tu jest zajebiście xD22:24
szymon__mówi ktoś po polsku?22:24
Tm_T!pl | szymon__22:25
ubotuszymon__: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl22:25
raindogKonqueror won't load any webpages on my fresh Gutsy install, but Firefox works fine.  What is the solution to this?22:25
szymon__super;p22:25
KalElcan i (and should i) install KDE4?22:25
szymon__smierdzisz22:25
damaltorany other ideas? emerald installed, but still no borders :(22:25
szymon__nie płacz pedale22:26
damaltorraindog: google for ipv6 konqueror disable22:26
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: it's pretty easy really, at least without network manager doing it. edit /etc/network/interfaces, the syntax should be guessable from an example like my own: AT0M1CB0MB3R: it's pretty easy really, at least without network manager doing it. edit /etc/network/interfaces, the syntax should be guessable from an example like my own for instance: « auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address 192.168.0.2 \n netmask 255.255.255.0 \n gateway 192.168.22:26
LjL0.1 » - the network card is eth0, the address is 192.168.0.1, the router is at 192.168.0.1, and given the kind of subnet, it's a 255.255.255.0 mask22:26
raindogdamaltor: Thank you very much.22:26
hydrogenKalEl: yes (and no)22:26
szymon__to sie rozpisoł ;/22:26
SanneLjL: thanks, but I don't think that helps me. I want to do a minimal install next, building my system up manually, but would like to have a default packages list for reference. I made one for Dapper, but to have one for Gutsy would be nice.22:26
szymon__do you speak rusian ?22:26
KalElok, i won't install it now then (i trust you)22:26
hydrogen!ru | szymon__22:27
ubotuszymon__: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke22:27
damaltorany other ideas? emerald installed, but still no borders while beryl is active... what else can it be?22:27
szymon__gaworissz pa rusku ?22:27
LjLSanne, good excuse for me to update that site to Gutsy22:27
LjL!english | szymon__22:27
ubotuszymon__: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat22:27
KalElbut if i wait for a while kde4 will be available as an update right?22:27
hydrogenyes22:27
hydrogenprobably not until gutsy+222:27
szymon__hehe i co sie cieszysz ;/22:27
hydrogenthough apps may be in there for hardy22:27
SanneLjL: oh! I see it may be what I'm looking for indeed!22:28
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: thanks :]22:28
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: even tho im still lost and have no idea how to do it :[22:28
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: which part?22:28
SanneLjL: is this equivalent to "dpkg -l" for a Kubuntu install?22:29
damaltorany other ideas? emerald installed, but still no borders while beryl is active... what else can it be?22:30
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LjLSanne: almost, but not quite. 1) it doesn't list some packages that aren't depended upon by anything, such as the kernel  2) it doesn't list recommended packages, only straight *depends*22:31
SanneLjL: ok, good to know, still useful, thanks a lot.22:31
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: some day ill get it working i just hate having to fix my network everytime i boot up because my dns servers and stuff like that22:32
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: dns servers go in /etc/resolv.conf, although once again, network manager and the "resolvconf" package mess with it. myself, i just removed both packages.22:33
LjLnot the recommended way - but the one i know.22:33
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: yeah it changes them everytime i start up but i have to use knetwork manager so i can have internet so i can do my homework22:34
AT0M1CB0MB3RLjL: other wise i get failing grades :[22:34
damaltori have a new problem: installed beryl in gutsy by downloading and installing the .debs, does work indeed, effects show, everything okay. BUT: all windows dont have any borders anymore, not even the top bar with the title in it.. so im not able to move the windows or anything. what ca i do? emerald is installed and choosen in beryl-manager as window decorator22:35
LjLAT0M1CB0MB3R: it's not like you can't have internet without network manager though.22:36
hydrogendamaltor: run emerald or kde-window-decorator22:37
LjLSanne: now if only my web host weren't idiotic and let me upload the Gutsy list without failing halfway, i'd have Main/i386 ready22:37
damaltorhydrogen: emerald IS running22:37
hydrogendamaltor: obviously it isn't22:37
hydrogenor you would have window decorations.22:37
SanneLjL: oh, that must be annoying... thanks for trying :)22:38
damaltori chose it in the beryl-manager menu for window decoration, but there is no effect if i choose kde manager here22:38
LjLSanne: anyway if you have a live CD, have you considered getting the list from there?22:38
jjesseso to get this compiz thingy working in gutsy anything special i hav eto do?22:38
LjLthat should be the 100% correct list22:38
* jjesse is trying to find a kubuntu guide via google22:38
SudoKingsorry kubuntu crashed22:39
hydrogen!compiz | jjesse22:40
ubotujjesse: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:40
jjessethanks hydrogen and ubotu22:40
SudoKingwho thought of ubotu22:42
SudoKingMind if I try it?22:42
KalElgo ahead please22:42
ardchoilleSudoKing: I think it is Seveas' invention. it's in a lot of channels22:43
SudoKing!konsole | SudoKing22:43
KalElbtw you can talk to him in private too.22:43
SudoKingHe didn't have one on Konsole....22:43
SudoKing:(22:43
SudoKingthat's the KDE terminal..someone should put the definition in :)22:44
SudoKing!kmenu22:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:44
SudoKinghmmm22:44
ardchoilleSudoKing: he usually replies with something, even f the facoid is not defined22:44
KalElyeah you can help him, instructions here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:44
ardchoilleSudoKing: As I said, he is in a lot of channels, including a channel with 1000 users.. he may lag at times22:45
SudoKingoh he said he didn't have one on Konsole: Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-22:45
SudoKing!pidgin22:46
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.022:46
SudoKingOh, I still use Gaim22:46
Tm_Troot_: you shouldnt irc as root22:46
KalEltry Kopete22:46
SudoKing!kopete22:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:47
SudoKing:(22:47
KalElalthough i couldn't yet find out how to log in as invisible in Kopete22:47
Tm_T!im22:47
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.22:47
sven_hydrogen, I read everywhere that strigi is blazing fast, that it takes no resources, etc... If so, how come that strigi brings my laptop to a grinding halt every 10 minutes when it starts indexing for 5 minutes straight, taking 80%CPU and putting the rest of the CPU's on wait...  Its impossible to work when strigi is indexing, and strigi indexes all the time.. I have a laptop with a core2 duo processor with 1GB of memory, it ought to be enough but for strig22:47
sven_i its definately not..22:47
KalElSudoKing: ubotu knows a lot, but nobody beats google :)22:47
SudoKing!apt22:47
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)22:47
ardchoille!botabuse22:47
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...22:47
SudoKingwhat!?22:48
Tm_Tardchoille: krhm22:48
SudoKingjust testing...22:48
KalElit's alright, #ubuntu-bots is a testing channel22:48
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ardchoilleTm_T: krhm?22:48
k5ubuntui need help configuring a wireless card22:49
Tm_Tardchoille: nevermind now =)22:49
ardchoilleTm_T: what is krhm?22:49
Tm_Tardchoille: just coughing22:49
ardchoilleoh, hehe22:49
KalEl:)22:49
k5ubuntucan anybody help me set up a wireless card22:49
SudoKingyou need the wi-fi package22:50
k5ubuntu?22:50
k5ubuntuim new22:50
ardchoille!wifi22:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:50
k5ubuntuthx22:50
SanneLjL: sorry, was afk for a moment. I also thought about checking the install cd for a list... I wasn't sure if it's on there, will have a look at my Dapper cd now (and for Gutsy also when I have downloaded one).22:51
LjLSanne, there isn't a list per se, but you can do dpkg --get-selections like you said22:51
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TooEarlyOn websites that have a pull out menu (example: tvguide's website) i put my mouse over "What's On TV" and it goes UNDER the flash box and i can't see what's on the menu22:52
TooEarlyhow do i fix that?22:52
TooEarlyand i use firefox as my browser22:52
SanneLjL: ah, you mean boot the live cd and get the list from the booted environment... good idea, thanks :)22:52
LjLSanne: yes, i mean that. extracting it from the live CD without booting it might be harder than it sounds, i suspect22:52
ardchoilleTooEarly: It's a known problem with flash in firefox22:53
SudoKingWhy doesn't youtube work on my computer?22:53
SanneLjL: yeah, might be. Will have a look anyway, but you suggestion is the best option, I think.22:53
TooEarlyardchoille: oh. and there is no fix?22:53
NickPrestaTooEarly, I don't believe 'wmode' is supported in GNU+Linux versions of Flash, which prevents any sort of layering using z-index22:53
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SudoKinghelp22:54
TooEarlyNickPresta: ah.... alright. so there's not much i can do about it right now22:54
ardchoilleSudoKing: iirc, you need to install flash22:54
NickPrestaTooEarly, no solution that I know of22:55
makuseru.join #amarok22:55
TooEarlyNickPresta: ok, thanks22:56
k5ubuntui cant configure my wireless card i need help22:58
k5ubuntui tried everything22:58
jameswfanyone familiar with checkinstall22:58
k5ubuntuim on a live cd22:58
kaminixAre there no plans on porting Konversation to QT 4 for the KDE4 release?23:00
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Rob_bobwhere do I go for compiz help?23:02
k5ubuntu!patience | kaminix23:02
ubotukaminix: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:02
k5ubuntulol23:02
Rob_bob!compiz23:02
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:02
kaminixk5ubuntu: I'm talking about plans, not time frames :p23:04
k5ubuntui know i was just joking23:04
kaminixLooking at the Konversation wiki it's roadmap is still about 1.0 :s23:04
kaminixHmm...23:04
k5ubuntu!Koversation23:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about koversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:04
k5ubuntu!commands23:05
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:05
damaltorhello again23:05
damaltori have tried some things now, restarted the x server, but still no borders while using beryl.23:05
k5ubuntu!find konversation23:05
ubotuFound: konversation, konversation-dbg23:05
k5ubuntudamaltor: what are you trying to do23:06
k5ubuntu?23:06
damaltori am trying to install beryl23:06
k5ubuntuwhy not gusty23:06
damaltorbecause it isnt in the repositories anymore23:06
starcan someone pls help me to install a rpm package?23:06
damaltori downloaded the packages by hand23:07
damaltorand installed them23:07
damaltorberyl indeed does work23:07
k5ubuntudamaltor: what version do you have23:07
damaltoreffects are nice23:07
damaltorgutsy23:07
damaltorbut my windows dont have any borders23:07
k5ubuntudamaltor talk in the window i opened23:07
starcan someone pls help me to install a rpm package? do i have to use the terminal or a program?23:08
starcan someone pls help me to install a rpm package? do i have to use the terminal or a program?23:09
damaltorstar: download it, open konqueror and klick on it23:11
mileshi\]23:12
stardamaltor, I did as you told me to do, but then it says "open with.." :/ im running kubuntu 7.10 nordic remi23:14
server__hi23:15
damaltoroh oh..23:15
damaltork wait a sec23:15
server__im a server23:15
star:)23:15
server__who wants to talk23:16
server__i like that23:17
damaltorstar: you could use the command "rpm" but i would really consider going to rpmseek.com, entering the name of the package, and then downloading the corresponding .deb package23:17
damaltorthis is better for the system23:17
starokay23:17
vzduchstar: what do you want to install?23:18
BeerSercHow do I upgrade my kubuntu feisty to gutsy if adept doesnt show me the "upgrade" button?23:18
starim running VMware23:18
vzduchit's not recommended installing a RPM pkg on a Debian-based system23:18
starso i have to install some drivers23:18
BeerSercI have read the guide, but it doesnt work like described there23:18
vzduchdrivers for what?23:18
starfirst of all..23:18
stardo you know what VMware is? :)23:18
vzduchI know.. imho VirtualBox is the better alternative :)23:19
star:D23:19
starbut now when i have installed VMware it tells me to install VMware tolls23:19
starbut now when i have installed kubuntu it tells me to install VMware tolls23:20
vzduchhow did you install VMware?23:20
stari have installed VMware in Windows Vista..23:20
vzduchin VirtualBox this is called 'Additions' and comes as an ISO file w/ the installation23:21
star*on23:21
vzduchdunno about VMware there though23:21
starokay23:21
starbut i will take a look at virtualbox :)23:21
vzduchperhaps you look in /usr/share/vmware/ (or similar) or in /opt, in case you installed a non-DEB package23:22
vzduchotherwise the handbook (if there is one) should be able to tell you where to find the Tools23:22
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starvzduch: i have the rpm package with all the drivers.. but i dont know how to install it :/23:24
vzduchtry looking for a DEB pkg first23:24
starim running VMware in vista, and through VMware am i running Kubuntu23:24
staryes i will23:24
vzduchor is there, by chance, a menu entry in the VM window that says something like 'Install VMware Tools'?23:25
damaltork5ubuntu: hello are you still there? i just saw that i am not allowed to talk to xou in query becaus my nick isnt registered23:26
starvzduch, yes23:26
BluesKaj!register23:26
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration23:26
igorhi all. I try install acetoniso2 dep on kubuntu, but packet don't install.23:26
stari pressed the "install VMware Tools"23:27
vzduchstar: that should be it23:27
dany_21astar: just click the menu entry [Vm]->intstall vmware tools when the virtual machin (aka: "guest") is running23:27
starand then it made a dvd-file on the desktop..23:27
dany_21astar: open that cd-drive and copy the vmwaretools......tar.gz to you homefolder23:28
stardany, there is 2 files in the cd-drive23:28
dany_21astar: and one ends with tar.gz (or tgz or something... not .rpm)23:28
staryes23:29
star:)23:29
dany_21apress Alt+F2 and enter "konsole" and press enter (without the ")23:29
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rob_bob!compiz23:30
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:30
SudoKingdidn't you just do that earlier23:31
SudoKing!upgrade23:31
SudoKinghuh23:31
SudoKingI need instructions to upgrade to gutsy :(23:31
vzduch!upgrade23:31
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes23:31
BeerSercubotu: THEY DO NOT WORK!23:32
kyronWOW... I really suck at Kubuntu O_o... now this other laptop I just upgraded using the alternate-CD method isn't booting anymore (VFS-kernel panic from the start!)23:32
GS3User007what's the kernel option to normally boot, but not launch the gui?23:32
adz21cGS3User007: failsafe is what i usually use23:33
GS3User007adz21c: thanks, i'll try that23:33
tehkanyone have an issue with kopete not auto connecting?23:34
GS3User007what's the kernel option to normally boot, but not launch the gui? i tried 'failsafe' but that didn't do it. what i'm looking for is to login on the command line and be able to execute commands from there23:36
BluesKajGS3User007, ctr+alt+F1 , should open the TTY commnd line access23:37
diego_diego desde argentina23:38
BeerSercEverybody tells me the ubuntu support is so great, but noone even answers a simple question like "how can I manuall start to upgrade my kubuntu"? This does not look like great support to me ...23:38
GS3User007blueskaj: is that something i open from within in kde, or grub...?23:38
vzduch!es | diego_23:38
ubotudiego_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:38
BluesKajGS3User007, try it after selecting kubuntu in the grub menu23:39
diego_exit23:40
GS3User007blueskaj: it still went to the graphical login screen23:41
GS3User007it did kill the splasht hough23:41
GS3User007blueskaj: it still went to the graphical login screen23:41
GS3User007it did kill the splasht hough23:41
BluesKajtry it from the login screen , then to get back to KDE , ctrl+alt+F723:42
GS3User007well, i can't actually see the login screen... the video drivers are pretty messed up right now, i have a fix, but it's all command line stuff23:43
makuseruare there any programs that will rip to mp3? all i can find are programs that rip to ogg23:45
GS3User007can anyone tell me how to boot to a command line?23:45
biovoreGS3User007: rm /etc/rc2.d/kdm23:46
biovore1 sec..23:46
starvirtualbox, is it possible to run 3d-effects in it?23:47
biovoreGS3User007: mv /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm /etc/rc2.d/K13kdm23:47
biovoreThat will stop kdm from starting..23:47
biovoreat boot23:47
GS3User007permanently, or just the one time?23:47
biovorewell untill you move the file back..23:47
biovoreyou can start kdm manual from the command line by sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start23:48
profoX`What does Ubuntu use for the compiz settings, how is the application named? (I have no Ubuntu Gutsy machine to check for myself here)23:48
biovorekubuntu dosn't come with compiz be default..23:48
GS3User007biovore: thanks, i'll try that23:49
profoX`biovore: well i know23:49
Tm_TBluesKaj: <323:49
profoX`that's why I'm asking, but I guess people in #ubuntu would know the answer to that question better23:49
biovoreor ubuntu-effects23:49
BluesKajhey Tm_T23:49
biovore!compiz23:49
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:49
Jucato#ubuntu-effects now redirects to #ubuntu23:50
biovoreah..23:50
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profoX`the problem is that #ubuntu is a bit overly full :) ah well, I'll just install gutsy and check it out for myself as I'm not sure how I would find out what the app is otherwise, I also couldn't find it in launchpad23:51
TheThirdBithi, anybody know why knetworkmanager dont work anymore in gutsy?23:52
biovoreworks here..23:52
TheThirdBitstrange... where could i find the logs?23:52
profoX`ah, got it, it's included in gnome-appearance-properties23:53
LjLcan anyone confirm that kbluetooth opens a Konqueror window even if Dolphin is set as file manager? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/15589123:55
SudoKingit does too work!23:55
SudoKingI'm using it rightn ow....23:55
SudoKingidk reinstall dolphin23:55
SudoKinguninstall konqueror, then it won't :)23:55
SudoKingsudo apt-get remove konqueror23:55
PhotocopyA friend here is making his KDE look like Gnome, (Much like how xubuntu makes xfce look like gnome) And we got to a problem.23:56
PhotocopyWe have everything the way we want it except one part23:56
Photocopywhich is somewhat important23:56
biovoreits kde?23:56
Photocopyyes its kde23:56
kyronUhm...HELP! My system won't boot anymore, I get a : Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block ....this is following upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 using the alternate-cd ... How would I fix this ??23:56
hydrogenwhy not just use gnome..23:57
hydrogenif you like the look23:57
hydrogenit would be much simpler23:57
PhotocopyWe have our three menus we want that would become Applications, places, and settings, but they are icon buttons, not text buttons23:57
vzduchPhotocopy: there is a KDE theme w/ 2 toolbars, it's there in Mandriva, so I've read23:57
Photocopyhydrogen: You're asking the wrong guy, its not for me, its for my friend here.23:57
vzduchif you mean that23:57
hydrogenso23:57
hydrogentell him23:57
hydrogento use gnome23:57
kyronQ: why does grub not let me edit the boot command line?23:57
Photocopyvzduch: Ive got my two toolbars and all23:57
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biovorePhotocopy: well the cheat is to make a graphic thats just text I guess and use it as the icon..23:57
Photocopyvzduch: Only issue here is the buttons for the menys23:57
hydrogenkyron: it does23:57
Photocopymenus*23:58
profoX`if you like the GNOME looks, that does not mean that you like the rest about GNOME :)23:58
Photocopybiovore: But i dont know how to put that graphic as the icon, cause i cannot seem to change even the icon if i wanted23:58
kyronhydrogen, O_o...ok...well, I pressed frantically on E at boot time and never got to edit the command line O_o23:58
hydrogenyou need to hit escape first23:58
hydrogenat the booting grub message23:58
hydrogento get to grub23:58
kyronargl!23:58
kyronok...I _do_ feel stupid now23:59
Photocopyhydrogen: He says he wants his KDE Apps to run well and that they wont in gnome.. i dont know, but it seemed easy, and it was, right up until the last step.23:59
CPrompt^kyron : try rebooting and choose a different kernel.23:59
profoX`biovore: or you could hack the applet source to just display text instead of a graphic, if you really wanted that23:59
kyronCPrompt^, ...yeah23:59
hydrogenerr23:59
hydrogenkde apps run fine in gnome23:59
hydrogengnome apps run fine in kde23:59
biovorePhotocopy: it probably pulling the icon from /usr/share/ somewhere, probably a png.. use gimp to change it..23:59
profoX`sorry I meant Photocopy23:59
kyronwhat is (recovery mode) btw?23:59
kyronno gui?23:59

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