| ubotu | New bug: #158181 in launchpad "Let people ask questions without previously creating an account" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158181 | 00:36 |
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| Ubotwo | Launchpad bug 158181 in launchpad "Let people ask questions without previously creating an account" [Undecided,New] | 00:36 |
| Fujitsu | Haha. | 00:49 |
| PriceChild | Ubotwo, part #launchpad | 00:50 |
| kiko | Rinchen, go to bed | 02:07 |
| Rinchen | lol | 02:07 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: I tried to link an upstream bug (project is gxine) this morning, but I can't add a bug watch. I suspect that is because the project is set as using Malone officially, when it in fact uses SourceForge. Can that be changed? | 02:09 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, sure it can -- let me change it. | 02:10 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: Thanks. | 02:10 |
| Rinchen | kiko, go to bed | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | hi kiko Fujitsu and Rinchen | 02:11 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, done. | 02:11 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: Thanks. | 02:11 |
| Fujitsu | Hi LaserJock. | 02:11 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, would you like to be able to change this sort of thing yourself? | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: That would be nice, if it's possible. | 02:12 |
| Rinchen | hi LaserJock | 02:12 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, I'm going to get statik to set up some code to allow a team to update products. I'll see that it's done and we'll add you to it. | 02:13 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: Aha, thanks! | 02:13 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, are you around here? | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: I wish :( | 02:14 |
| Fujitsu | I have exams in a week, plus no way of funding a trip out there. | 02:14 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, ah, I had hoped you would come. next time, then. wonder where it will be! | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | kiko: I registered a couple more projects this week :-) | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | I doubt I'd be sponsored, and parents probably wouldn't let me go, but we'll see. | 02:16 |
| kiko | LaserJock, did you? I didn't notice that! | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | I did xaos | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | so I could add a bug tracker | 02:17 |
| kiko | ah, very cool | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | my plain is to get all the Edubuntu apps in soonish | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | *plan | 02:18 |
| kiko | LaserJock, I can probably get somebody to script you a product-creation frontend if you can find a set of freshmeat urls for them | 02:19 |
| kiko | that might make things easier | 02:19 |
| kiko | LaserJock, are you coming this week? | 02:19 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: no sorry :( | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | I have to focus on my dissertation | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | so opted out | 02:19 |
| kiko-zzz | ! | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I've been to the last 3 | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | it's hard not seeing everybody | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | but such is life | 02:20 |
| Fujitsu | kiko-zzz: Isn't launchpad-experts the same as launchpad-edit-registry? | 02:26 |
| kiko-zzz | Fujitsu, the specs? I'm not sure tbh. probably. it's a trivial thing -- most of the work is on the community side | 02:27 |
| kiko-zzz | mpt, did you notice the weird staging oopses from today? | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | u'/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/zcml/../i | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | mages/demo.png' | 02:31 |
| * kiko-zzz scratches head | 02:31 | |
| mpt | kiko-zzz, that's by design | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | is that so | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | ok then | 02:31 |
| mpt | I asked Ng to delete the file so that test subjects wouldn't be distracted by it | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | is it a test of the oops system? :) | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | ah! | 02:31 |
| mpt | because nobody implemented the button to temporarily hide it in time | 02:31 |
| kiko-zzz | heh | 02:31 |
| * mpt moves "in time" to earlier in that sentence | 02:31 | |
| kiko-zzz | mpt, I doubt anybody even knew that was a required task :) | 02:31 |
| mpt | It was in the spec! Which was approved! | 02:32 |
| mpt | So at least Rinchen and SteveA knew :-) | 02:32 |
| kiko-zzz | that's not how it works around here | 02:32 |
| Rinchen | I heard that | 02:32 |
| Rinchen | :-) | 02:32 |
| kiko-zzz | unless it has a milestone and an assignee and I know about it | 02:32 |
| kiko-zzz | either you get somebody to care about it | 02:32 |
| kiko-zzz | or it DOESN'T GET DONE | 02:32 |
| * kiko-zzz uses caps for effect | 02:32 | |
| * kiko-zzz -> zzz :) | 02:35 | |
| Fujitsu | kiko-zzz: Yeah, those specs look identical. | 02:35 |
| Fujitsu | Night. | 02:35 |
| ubotu | New bug: #158199 in launchpad "Download project files page should be sorted to show newest releases first." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158199 | 02:35 |
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| zachtib_ | is ppa acting up for anyone? i uploaded a new src pkg, and amd64 built after 1hr, but i386 still has not built after 7hrs | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | no, someone decided to upload a whole bunch of stuff, adn that's still building. | 05:46 |
| RAOF | In particular, there's a *whole bunch* of langpacks building, and since they're arch: all and the build scheduler is awesome they all go on the i386 build queue only. | 05:47 |
| zachtib_ | oh, that makes sense | 05:49 |
| zachtib_ | i was wondering why there was such a difference :) | 05:50 |
| Fujitsu | zachtib_: The language packs took more than 48 hours to build, and the i386 buildd has almost caught up. | 05:59 |
| zachtib_ | cool | 05:59 |
| Fujitsu | There are bugs filed on the fact that arch: all is only built on i386, and that there's no global PPA build queue. | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: that's still going? | 06:01 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yup | 06:01 |
| daniel_ki | whoa, more than 48 hours | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | try 72+ | 06:06 |
| daniel_ki | reminds me of the days when I built XFree86 on an old 386 | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | pepole have been asking about it since at least friday, when there were 3 open office uploads. | 06:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: The langpacks finished some hours ago. | 06:06 |
| daniel_ki | although that took still less than 48 h | 06:06 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, that OOo stuff was impressive. | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ah nice. so now everything else might get a chance to build. | 06:06 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: quick, upload it a few more times | 06:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Yeah, a couple of hours ago it had just got to less than 48h behind, IIRC. | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh... | 06:07 |
| * daniel_ki actually wondered why his small builds took half an hour, but now he thinks he has nothing to complain about, really | 06:08 | |
| Fujitsu | I was rejoicing when the final OOo build finished, thinking my mplayer would be there for testing within a few hours... then I saw the dreaded `Building language-pack-zh' | 06:08 |
| Fujitsu | daniel_ki: The queue-builder is dieing under the load of 15000 pending builds for Ubuntu hardy. | 06:09 |
| daniel_ki | how fast are the machines? | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | So builds appear to be taking a lot longer than normal, whereas the actual building is the same as usual. | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | No idea whatsoever. | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | Fairly, I think. | 06:09 |
| daniel_ki | Zen should be close to bare metal performance, right? | 06:09 |
| Fujitsu | s/Z/X/, but yes. | 06:10 |
| daniel_ki | er | 06:10 |
| Fujitsu | Very close. | 06:10 |
| daniel_ki | although pbuilder setup is very inefficient | 06:11 |
| Fujitsu | They don't use pbuilder. | 06:11 |
| daniel_ki | what do they use? | 06:11 |
| Fujitsu | They use a horribly mangled sbuild with a lot of extra black magic which sometimes works. | 06:11 |
| daniel_ki | oh hm | 06:11 |
| daniel_ki | but it still seems to take quite a bit of time to install dependencies | 06:11 |
| daniel_ki | probably hard to avoid | 06:12 |
| Fujitsu | Does it? Seems fairly quick to me. | 06:13 |
| * daniel_ki managed to get cowdancer working on his own machine which improved things quite a bit, despite penalties on xfs | 06:13 | |
| daniel_ki | maybe I got a wrong impression from the log viewer | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | daniel_ki: What you're probably seeing is the slave-scanner (which updates the build logs, normally in real time) being shut down for extending periods. | 06:14 |
| daniel_ki | ok | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | slave-scanner won't run when queue-builder is, and queue-builder is taking many tens of minutes to run due to the large number of Ubuntu builds. | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: hardy build stuff is slowly decreasing, though | 06:14 |
| daniel_ki | aaah | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Yeah, it's not taking quite as long any more, it seems. | 06:14 |
| daniel_ki | so most of the time doesn't go to the actual build but building the queue? | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | They're independent processes. | 06:15 |
| Fujitsu | The queue-builder decides which builds are going to which machines and in which order, I believe. | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: 13942 to go. they're going up again. sigh. | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Hah. | 06:16 |
| daniel_ki | ok, so the machines are still saturated? | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | i386 passed p* earlier! Yay! | 06:16 |
| Fujitsu | daniel_ki: Yes. | 06:16 |
| daniel_ki | cool | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: at times like this, it makes me wonder why they dont set the livecd/security buildds onto automatic, and build stuff faster | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | then just bump the priorities of anything security-based. | 06:20 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Most security stuff is built using dak/wanna-build, not Soyuz. | 06:20 |
| Fujitsu | That's why they can't be on automatic, because they're running a separate system. | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | maybe it's live cds, then | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds | 06:20 |
| Fujitsu | Some security stuff seems to build in Soyuz, but I'm not sure how that works. | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | a whole bunch of this is still idling, too | 06:21 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Right, the queue-builder is probably running, so the slave-scanner can't order them around or see what they are doing. | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | heh. ppa i386 is finally idle, too | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | both of them, actually | 06:21 |
| Fujitsu | promethium has been mostly idle for a couple of days. | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | As it is quicker, and doesn't do arch: all. | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | ah, there we go | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | refresh the page, and it's going | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 06:22 |
| * Fujitsu needs to head off to TAFE now. | 06:23 | |
| carlos | morning | 08:54 |
| htaccess_ | hi i am about to ask a question on launchpad but am not sure which package to associate it with ... console-data console-common or xserver-xorg | 09:52 |
| htaccess_ | should i just choose one at random? | 09:53 |
| gnomefreak | to ask a question use answers on launchpad | 09:58 |
| gnomefreak | to file a bug choose one and someone will fix it when they have the info | 09:58 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #158298 in launchpad "some colours on blueprints are hard to disern" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158298 | 11:45 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #158322 in launchpad "Registration message features incongruous request for feedback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158322 | 13:46 |
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| skimat | conversation with jrib previously :: | 14:04 |
| skimat | the page you linked me is interessting but where's the feedback - i like this can i vote for it (users)- are devloppers interested in this (devloperrs) | 14:04 |
| skimat | <jrib> no voting system exists that I know of | 14:04 |
| skimat | <jrib> you could work on it :) | 14:04 |
| skimat | <skimat> it be a simple text standard allowing devlopers to change an idea they devlop into a color or format, and users to add their mail to it - when someone is interrested in devlopping an idea all the mails are added to a mail list and those people can team for realising this idea | 14:04 |
| skimat | the discussion was about | 14:13 |
| skimat | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool#head-5a86a0a61762d65ad36b9d3925fc6825cb76355e | 14:13 |
| skimat | thats great but could be improved | 14:14 |
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| ryanakca | is there anyway to remove a package from a PPA? | 15:55 |
| kiko | ryanakca, yes, ask on help.l.n (see topic) | 16:01 |
| kiko | ryanakca, the UI is coming. | 16:01 |
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| ryanakca | kiko: thanks | 16:12 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #158402 in soyuz "there needs to be a way for a buildd admin to upload a new chroot tarball" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158402 | 18:36 |
| caquino | hi, is possible to do you "repository reset" in one launchpad project? | 18:45 |
| caquino | I want to remove all the files from one project.. to start again | 18:45 |
| lifeless | bzr push --overwrite | 18:48 |
| caquino | lifeless: but this will remove all past revisions? | 18:56 |
| lifeless | caquino: it will make them unreferenced and they won't get copied around etc. As long as you did 'init' to make a new branch | 18:59 |
| vx | maybe a redendant question, but, i would like to know wich parts of launchpad are opened please ? | 19:58 |
| LaserJock | vx: what do you mean by opend? | 20:01 |
| pochu | vx: https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ#head-34295746b9c12bbe42eee4a9bd5e2656306fd796 | 20:09 |
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| Lhademmor | Hi, I have a problem: I'm currently translating Deluge https://launchpad.net/deluge to Danish through the Launchpad-translation interface. But now I want to export the translations so far to a .po-file so I can work with it offline. I tried the "Export" function of Launchpad, but I never received any email.... What should I do? | 20:11 |
| carlos | Lhademmor: hi | 20:15 |
| carlos | Lhademmor: we have a problem with the export process | 20:15 |
| Lhademmor | Do you have an ETA for a fix? | 20:15 |
| carlos | it should start working again soon | 20:16 |
| carlos | the fix is already done and we are doing some testing now | 20:16 |
| carlos | before deploying it on production | 20:16 |
| Lhademmor | okay :) | 20:17 |
| Lhademmor | I should maybe be able to finish translation before then | 20:18 |
| Lhademmor | is there a ubuntu summit going on? | 20:34 |
| LaserJock | yes | 20:38 |
| Lhademmor | cool | 20:40 |
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| vx | LaserJock heard that some of launchpad modules have been published | 21:35 |
| LaserJock | vx: ahh, right, Storm I think | 21:36 |
| vx | LaserJock yep ty | 21:36 |
| ddaa | vx: this, as well: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs | 21:44 |
| vx | ty all | 21:44 |
| ubotu | New bug: #158450 in launchpad "heading on blueprint is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158450 | 21:45 |
| ubotu | New bug: #158455 in malone "When displaying matching bugs in +filebug, don't display duplicates" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158455 | 22:00 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: ping | 22:37 |
| doko_ | http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/mwiki/index.php?title=Bzr | 22:38 |
| doko_ | poolie: ^^^ | 22:38 |
| Peaker | the launchpad site is unnecessarily confusing :-( | 22:43 |
| Peaker | took me 5 minuets to find where I search for a team | 22:43 |
| Peaker | "list all teams" is unsearchable. or it has a search on top but it searches projects, not teams | 22:43 |
| Peaker | then view people has to be used, to search teams, which is confusing | 22:43 |
| Mez | hmmles.. | 23:27 |
| Mez | PPAs... | 23:27 |
| Mez | https://edge.launchpad.net/~mez/+archive | 23:27 |
| Mez | shows for hardy, yet the dropdown box has gutsy | 23:28 |
| Mez | and theres no option for hardy in the dropdown | 23:28 |
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