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mikubuntuanybody know why i might be having problems with brasero cd burner, and also gnomebaker?  are there any known issues possibly associated with updates?00:11
homebrewcideranyone know of a bigger compatability list than the one at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/00:14
mindframe-mikubuntu, try k3b00:23
Mark76Is it worth having more than one Linux on a desktop?00:23
mikubuntumindframe-: ok, did you have a similar prob?00:24
mikubuntui know i burned things couple of weeks ago no prob, only thing i can think is updates somehow screwed up brasero00:24
mikubuntui go look for k3b, is it in the standard packages?00:25
TheSheepMark76: depends on what you do00:25
Mark76Not a lot00:26
TheSheepMark76: My friends keeps every single linux distro he finds on his hdd00:26
mikubuntunot in appfinder00:26
TheSheepMark76: he's a distro developer himself and he wants to keep in touch with what others do00:26
TheSheepmikubuntu: it's there, just use synaptic00:27
TheSheepmikubuntu: it's a KDE app00:27
mikubuntuok, thx00:27
Mark76Are there enough differences between distros to justify it in my case?00:27
TheSheepMark76: I sometimes keep archlinux or debian on a second partition, to play with them00:28
TheSheepMark76: I don't know "your case"00:28
Mark76I'm just a casual user.00:28
TheSheepthen I guess not00:29
Mark76Fair enough00:30
TheSheepunless there is a distro that has something special that interests you00:30
mindframe-mikubuntu, no i've just always used k3b and never had problems00:30
Mark76I can't think of any00:30
TheSheepMark76: it used to be like that with compiz00:30
TheSheepMark76: it may be like that now ith KDE 400:30
mikubuntui never had problems b4 either, using a iomega external burner and it always worked fine00:31
Mark76Ah right00:31
Mark76I'll cross the KDE4 bridge when it comes to me00:31
Mark76I'll certainly add Kubuntu to my options once it's in the official repositories00:33
Mark76KDE4, that is00:34
Mark76Not much point whilst they're still on 3.5.  I've seen it00:34
Mark76Right00:36
Mark76Bed time!00:36
Mark76No staying up till 5am for me tongiht00:36
Mark76Night Sheep00:36
TheSheepgood night00:37
DaBeowulfOh damn, Teledat 220 and Ubuntu (even Linux for that matter) doesn't turn up much in google.. I hope I'll get it to work.00:44
DaBeowulfDo you think a Compex Ethernet card (RL2000) might do as a replacement?00:44
mikubuntuTheSheep: i wonder what the prob is... installed k3b and it's not detecting my external burner either..00:44
mikubuntuTheSheep: could this be related to some kind of kernel update?00:45
DaBeowulfI'd have that to spare for her.00:45
mikubuntuif it was a problem related to a kernel update, is it possible for me to get the old version back?00:52
mikubuntui'm lost without a burner...00:54
DaBeowulfWhat do you burn mostly?00:55
DaBeowulfDoes wodim still work?00:55
DaBeowulf@mikubuntu00:56
mikubuntudabeowulf: mostly distro iso's00:57
DaBeowulfTry wodim then. :)00:57
DaBeowulfwodim blablabla.iso00:57
mikubuntuwhat is wodim?00:57
DaBeowulf'man wodim' in the terminal ;)00:57
DaBeowulf!wodim00:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wodim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:58
mikubuntuDaBeowulf: ummmm, i looked at the 'man wodim', omg, lot of info .. so do i understand that wodim is 'better' at detecting ext devices?01:04
DaBeowulfYour burner is an external one?01:05
mikubuntuyes, iomega.  was working last week or so.  is only about two months old, so i don't think it's wore out.01:05
DaBeowulfIf it doesn't autodetect it when you issue the 'wodim blablabla.iso' command you can try and look in /dev/ for a 'cdrwX' link like cdrw1 or maybe just cdrw and add 'dev=cdrwX' to the command01:07
mikubuntui'm not understanding about the 'wodim blablabla.iso' command?01:09
mikubuntudo you mean wodim only operates from a terminal?01:09
mikubuntuif so, it might be 'over my head'01:09
DaBeowulf'sudo wodim blabla.iso dev=/dev/...' <- like that actually; yes it does01:09
mikubuntuback to my other question, then, if this is an update to the kernel that has caused the problem, is there a way for me to go back to the older kernel version?01:11
DaBeowulf^ like that when you're in the directory where the ISO is lying01:11
mikubuntui don't know why it 'just stopped working'01:11
DaBeowulfI bet 100 bucks.01:11
* mikubuntu is waiting with bait breath for the wager01:12
jjmivevening01:12
DaBeowulfIf there's none other there's always reinstall the OS. :P01:13
mikubuntuevening in some places01:13
jjmivyup01:13
jjmivactually..i've reinstalled xubuntu twice and it won't load into the operating system...01:13
jjmivit boots into recovery mode, but i'm not sure where to go from there in order to 'recover' the first boot option01:14
mikubuntuomg, maybe i'll go reinstall, then01:15
jjmivyeah, when i select the first boot option after install....nothin' happens..ha01:16
jjmivany suggestions?01:27
mikubuntuDaBeowulf: i swear, something is rotten in denmark.  now not even detecting the 'internal' cdrom on my laptop.  can't even reinstall os cause it won't boot from the drive.  what could be up with this...01:29
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DaBeowulfErm, the BIOS is set to boo from the CD, though?01:32
DaBeowulf*boot01:32
AlanBShepard70Can anyone tell me how to find the drive letter of a USB flash drive? I can't find a reference to it anywhere. In Ubuntu I can but not in xubuntu01:36
AlanBShepard70by drive letter I mean path.... It's /media/sd??? something right?01:37
tonyyarussoAlanBShepard70: It will likely mount as /media/$LABEL, if it has one.  The device is /dev/sd??01:42
jjmivah, i think i might just have to reconfigure xserver01:44
jjmivhm01:44
kebanyone know how to get rid of the annoying DHCPDISCOVER messages in the logs01:44
kebmy system us trying to find an ip for eth1 but i unplugged that usb ethernet device days ago01:46
keb*is01:46
AlanBShepard70tonyyarusso: thanks but someone in the ubuntu-offtopic channel helped me figure it out.01:55
tonyyarussoAlanBShepard70: cool01:55
SteamMachineHi. I'm considering switching to xubuntu from ubuntu - but I was wondering about the difference in speed (ie, is it worth it?)02:48
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[chr0n0s]can anyone help using AWN with xfce (without compiz)09:45
ablomen[chr0n0s], awn depends on compiz09:58
ablomenso youll have to install compiz and run it before you can use awn09:59
[chr0n0s]ablomen, xfwm4 includes its own compositing manager, which takes advantage of the new X.org's server extensions. The compositor is like a WM on its own, it manages a stack of all windows, monitor all kinds on X event and reacts accordingly. Having the compositing manager embedded in the window manager also helps keeping the various visual effects in sync with window events. If you want to use the compositor, you have to build xfwm4 using the --enable-09:59
[chr0n0s]compositor configure option. In any case, you can disable the compositor on xfwm4 startup using the '--compositor=off' argument.09:59
ablomeni know it has a compositing manager, but afaik awn cant use it10:00
qwerkusHello: still nothing new about a way to fix the broken frambuffer console under Gutsy ?10:01
tonyyarussoqwerkus: nope :(10:13
qwerkusmist10:16
qwerkuswill try again next week ...10:16
MatBoyablomen, awn is not nice ;)10:38
MatBoymhh, the krdc full screen issue is not solved yet10:52
MatBoyshould it be a krdc or a xfce problem ?10:53
Mark76Has anyone seen this? http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/45837-1.jpg11:35
totalwormfacei didn't11:36
Mark76Looks good, eh?11:37
totalwormfaceit's everything i wanted to kick out of my theme, i like square :P11:38
totalwormfacebut it looks good :D11:38
Mark76It does11:39
totalwormfacei wish i did11:39
totalwormfacetime to wash my face11:39
Mark76You know when you want to add a submenu launcher to the panel, where do you find the cmds?11:40
Mark76I've looked in usr/bin and they aren't there11:43
Mark76Anyone?11:58
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Mark76:(12:07
PumpernickelIf the command you're looking for isn't in /usr/bin, then it's somewhere else.12:14
PumpernickelNot everything is lumped together in /usr/bin.12:14
Mark76I figured that12:16
Mark76I just can't work out where else12:16
TheSheepMark76: what command?12:18
Mark76I want to add some sub menus to the panel12:18
Mark76Network and games to start with12:18
TheSheepMark76: well, just create multiple entries in th launcher12:19
Mark76You can't add entire sub menus?12:19
TheSheepMark76: no, use the 'xfce menu' plugin for that12:19
TheSheepMark76: with a different menu file than the system menu12:19
Mark76xfce menu plugin?12:20
TheSheepMark76: at the bottom of panel plugins list12:20
Mark76Ah12:21
Mark76I've not been down that far before12:21
TheSheep_^_12:22
Mark76Hmm. I still have to edit it12:22
TheSheepbut you don't need the system menu this time12:22
Mark76Okay, so I want the network menu to pop up.  Do I just replace menu.xml with network.xml?12:23
TheSheepno, I'm afraid you'd have to recreate it12:25
Mark76:(12:25
Mark76There's no option to add help to the panel?12:33
Mark76That's a bit of an oversight12:33
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TheSheepMark76: you mean like clippy?12:35
Mark76NO, I mean like HELP"12:35
TheSheepwe could have a desktop background with a nice and friendly "Don't panic!" :)12:36
Mark76I'm surprised there isn't already12:37
Mark76We need more Sci fi themed wallpapers12:37
kebmake some :D12:37
TheSheepMark76: and there *is* help in the menu by default12:38
TheSheepMark76: and it shows when you press F112:38
Mark76I found a way to edit the sub menus12:39
Mark76Make sure main menu is in settings12:39
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Mark76I'll leave the wallpaper making to the pros, Keb12:51
kebsome of the best wallpapers are amateur12:52
octoberdanWhen I start xfce, n+1 nm-applet instances start up. n equaling the number of instances last time I started up12:54
octoberdanCurrently 8...12:54
octoberdanI isually just "killall nm-applet" and start a new one so there's only one12:55
octoberdanCould that be related?12:55
Mark76That happened to some one else12:57
octoberdanFound the solution I think12:58
octoberdanhttp://www.nabble.com/Multiple-Instances-of-nm-applet-t4114321.html12:58
octoberdanThank you. killing off the session files with only one instance of12:59
octoberdan'nm-applet --sm-disable &' running seems to have done the trick. I've12:59
octoberdanrebooted her laptop a couple of times and there's only one icon displayed.12:59
octoberdanoops12:59
Mark76Isn't Yves a boys name?13:00
octoberdanNot always13:01
Mark76I see13:05
Mark76How do you start the desktop cube going?13:05
octoberdanI'm not a fan of that compiz 3d desktop crap, those are my cycles damn it!13:07
octoberdanOh, and I could never get it working :-(13:09
maxamillioni don't care about the cpu or gpu usage ... if you have the power, might as well use it ... i just find compiz/beryl/fusion to be a step backwards in usability13:10
maxamillionbut that's just my opinion13:10
Mark76Damn, my window manager isn't responding13:12
Mark76Why isn't my Windows Manager responding? :-/13:18
nikolamHi13:22
Mark76Hello13:23
nikolamDid anyone tryed to install u/k/xubuntu inside Qemu ?13:23
Mark76Why? Should we want to?13:23
nikolamWhen I try to install inside wemu, there is error in recognising CD drive (even it boot from virtual cd in wemu?13:23
nikolamTo test.13:24
Mark76What is it?13:24
nikolamTo make virtual server, whatever13:24
nikolamIt is Virtualisation software You can install many OS-es unaware they are running inside virtual machine, up to near rel speed13:24
Mark76Ah13:25
Mark76Sounds cool13:25
nikolamVmware, qemu, xen13:25
Mark76Coes it have any practical applications in a desktop environment?13:25
nikolamqemu can even emulate other architectires (risc, power pc etc)13:25
Mark76Does13:25
nikolamYes, I can Run 5-6  VM oses : XP, Windows, bsd, multiple linuxes and make network of them hhe13:26
nikolamI personally want to make VM inside my machine to act like firewall and proxy for my dsl line13:26
nikolamAd every connection goes to Vm from machine and to the world.13:27
nikolamif you have large amount of RAM and multi core cpu, you can make a whole datacenter inside one machine :)13:27
Mark76Sorry about that13:28
Mark76What were you saying Nikolam?13:29
nikolamI personally want to make VM inside my machine to act like firewall and proxy for my dsl line13:29
nikolam Ad every connection goes to Vm from machine and to the world.13:29
nikolam if you have large amount of RAM and multi core cpu, you can make a whole datacenter inside one machine :)13:29
nikolamand it is great for testing and using software for windblows, per instance13:30
nikolamI were using vmware on xp for linux , Now I Use linux and I will use xp inside Vm :)13:31
Mark76That sounds interesting13:32
Mark76I have a friend I'm trying to cajole into going Linux, but she can't play her games on it13:33
nikolamOne can try using CEDEGA on linux13:34
Mark76That costs money, doesn't it?13:34
nikolamIt is extended version of wine13:34
nikolamYes13:34
nikolamYou can hack it13:34
Mark76She already has XP installed13:34
nikolamBut I think it is worth to pay for it13:34
nikolamDepends if you are paying for games or not13:35
nikolamxp is for games, anyway :)13:35
Mark76She has about 2 gigs left on her hard drive13:36
nikolamI would like to make people using windblows to actually PAY for all software they are using..  They would be switching to Linux, Instantaneous :))13:36
nikolam2 gig is not much13:36
Mark76Don't they do that already?13:36
nikolamAsk them ? :)13:37
Mark76Yeah, it's not. But I'm wondering how much can be stripped out of XP without affecting performance too much13:37
nikolamif you think about switching, I surely hope so :)13:37
Mark76She might have a lot of 3rd party apps for security that could be dumped if she used Linux for surfing and email13:38
nikolamHard drive space have not direct affect on performance13:38
nikolamI use 1. Firestarter 2. Nothing else on linux :)13:38
nikolamFirestarter set firewall and exits anyway (~100kb) :)13:39
Mark76Well, no, but it does affect how much of ubuntu you can install13:39
nikolamMinimum is a big more then 2GB13:39
Mark76Do you use Firestarter on your desktop?13:39
nikolamBut if you have 2GB free on Xp partition, you need to free a little bit more13:39
Mark76I think you can get away with 1.5 gigs for Xubuntu, Nik13:39
Mark76But that'd only leave 500 megs13:40
nikolamBeacouse when you make partition for ubuntu, there on xp must be some space left free13:40
Mark76You think the XP partition could be reduced?13:41
nikolam1. free about 4 gigs on XP partiton 2. use partition magic or so to make Xp partition 3 gigs smaller  3. Make 2,5Gigi ubuntu partition 4. Make 0.5Gig swap partition 5. Install Xubuntu  :)13:41
nikolamuse ext3 for partition type for linux13:42
nikolamAnd linux swap for linux swap partition13:42
nikolamAfter that you could dual-boot xp and xubuntu13:42
Mark76Sounds complex13:42
Mark76I suspect she doesn't even have a partitoner13:43
nikolamsound easy if you use partition magic and free some space and defragment xp partition before using partition magic13:43
nikolamWell, you can try Boot CD with Gparted tool on it13:43
nikolamJust a sec13:44
Mark76She doesn't have a working CD player13:44
nikolamBut I thin she should use partition magic (get it from torrents somewhere)13:44
Mark76So we'll be using UNetbootin13:44
nikolamDoes she`s computer have floppy or does she can boot from USB?13:44
Mark76I don't think she has floppies either13:45
Mark76But UNetbootin is good13:45
Mark76It has a partitioner13:45
nikolamMaybe she could backup data somewhere and use full install or second HDD for linux?13:45
nikolamI don`t know what is UNetbooti13:46
Mark76Maybe13:46
nikolamLinux use GRUB for boot13:46
Mark76You don't know UNetbootin?13:46
Mark76Hang on then13:46
nikolamAnd gparted for partitioning13:46
Mark76http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/10/05/unetbootin-create-a-dual-boot-windows-linux-pc-without-a-cd/13:47
nikolamLook ad the Gparted Live CD:13:47
nikolamhttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php13:48
nikolamThere is also Live USB http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php13:48
nikolambut Anyway, be SHURE to backup All importand Data Before any partitioning?13:49
Mark76Indeed13:49
nikolami will look to unetbootin.. I am looking to add solaris and macosX on top of two windoses and software raid1 dual linux setup :)13:50
Mark76Sounds like fun13:52
nikolamhah :) And it was automaticly recognized both windowses.13:52
maxamillionnikolam: solaris 10 or an opensolaris distro?13:52
nikolamI am thinking on opensolaris, But I think I will wait a bit, until they put it on GPL3 Licence :)13:53
nikolamI know it uses partition 4 on HD for install.. so far13:54
nikolamBut I am quite happy with My Xubuntu 64-bit, anyway13:54
maxamillionnikolam: last time i checked it was dual licensed gplv3 and cddl13:55
nikolamI am looking to use virtualisation so i can use testing and bug reporting for xubuntu13:55
maxamillionbut i could be wrong :/13:55
nikolamopensolaris??? I think ist only ccdl..13:55
nikolamThey are Saying .. Maybe GPL3 in some time13:56
nikolamWhen that happen, We will have TWo GPL open source platforms :)13:56
Mark76How do you resize a partition, anyway?13:58
Mark76Or create a new one?13:58
nikolam1.Free some space on disk 2. Defragment disk 3. Install and start partitn magic13:59
Mark76Right13:59
nikolamYou can just shrink it with PM and let Xubuntu use free space.13:59
Mark76http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19882114:00
nikolamif its blank new disk, xubuntu install precedure can partition it or you can do it manually durin install after booting from cd14:00
Mark76You can download partition magic from Sourceforge!14:00
Mark76But I'm downloading Mandriva first :)14:02
predaeusThis does not seem like it is Partition Magic.14:03
nikolamIt is not the same thing..14:03
nikolamPartition magic is commercial software..14:03
Mark76Oh well14:03
nikolamFor PM try on torrents and get it14:03
Mark76I'm sure it'll do just as good a job14:03
nikolamIf you want , delete it after use :)14:04
nikolamOr just try that gParted CD..14:04
nikolamIt is free14:04
Mark76I don't have a GParted CD14:04
nikolamGet it from the link i gave you14:04
batyppl need help, how can i change the video drivers in text mode?14:26
TheSheepbaty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg14:31
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witozzohi all, I'm having a strange problem with my external hard drive: I have the permission to read and write on it, but when I try to create a new file or erase something I get "Read-Only file system"16:03
mindframe-it's probably mounted read-only16:15
mindframe-what fs is it using?16:15
mindframe-witozzo,16:15
witozzofat3216:15
mindframe-type mount and paste what it says for that device16:16
witozzobut the point is that when I check the permission, I have "drwx------", so basically I should be able to write...16:16
mindframe-not necessarily16:16
witozzook, thanks16:17
mindframe-you need to mount the device with rw and not ro16:17
witozzo/dev/sda1 on /media/BACKUP DOC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree)16:18
witozzoso, it is "rw"...16:18
witozzocould it be that the problem is the gid not defined?16:28
TheSheepwitozzo: who's the woner?16:29
TheSheepowner?16:29
witozzoI'm the owner16:30
IR1hi16:52
IR1i've got a problem, i would like to install xUbuntu on my xbox, but idon't know if i have to modify my xbox before16:52
IR1i'm french so excuse my english16:53
clientuserton anglais est parfait16:53
IR1merci :)16:54
clientusermais pourquoit tu veux mettre xubuntu sur un xbox?16:54
IR1pour avoir un pc de récuperation et surtout parce que j'ai vu qu'il existait une version de xubuntu compatible i386 xbox16:54
IR1because i've seen that a version of xebuntu was compatible with the xbox16:57
clientuserhm je ne sais pas, tu pourrait essayer #ubuntu, c'est plus active16:57
IR1i'm coming from their channel16:57
IR1thay wereb't able ti help me16:57
TheSheephow about askig on #xbox?16:57
IR1the official channel?16:58
clientuserI don't think it's official16:58
TheSheepno, I don't think Microsoft would have an official channel on Freenode :)16:58
IR1they won't appreciate that i modify their product no?16:58
clientuser :p16:58
IR1ow sorry ^16:58
IR1^16:58
clientuserfreenode= opensource severs16:58
IR1okay16:58
IR1i'll try16:58
IR1thank's16:58
TheSheepIR1: I'm sure 100% of #xbox population has their xboxen modified :)16:59
IR1oo rly?16:59
IR1=D16:59
clientusernoo, 98%16:59
TheSheep.916:59
clientuserThe 2% left still have to learn how to modify it16:59
IR1=]17:00
IR1they are only 5 on this channel17:00
IR1(4 without me)17:00
clientuserwait 5/ 100 is...17:01
evil_tech1 20th17:02
clientusererr exactly17:02
clientusermath ~grr17:02
evil_tech:)17:03
clientuserevil_tech and TheSheep, are you always online?17:03
evil_technot on weekends17:03
evil_techim only on at work17:04
evil_techsometimes when im at school17:04
clientuserthat's what they all say17:09
TheSheepclientuser: yes, why?17:11
clientuserTheSheep: just wondering :)17:12
witozzook, at the end I found a solution: added17:14
witozzo/dev/sda       /media/iomegaHD vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,user 0    017:14
witozzoto fstab, now it's working properly, so it was the missing 'gid'...17:14
TheSheepwitozzo: that's why I asked about owner :)17:16
TheSheepwitozzo: should have asked about group too17:17
witozzoeheh, that's ok now17:17
witozzothanks anyway for your help! ;)17:17
clientuserhm..17:59
clientuser#internet18:02
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graziemaxamillion: ping18:25
maxamilliongrazie: pong18:29
graziehey maxamillion ...time for a chat?18:31
maxamilliongrazie: uhmm... kinda, what's up?18:31
graziemaxamillion: nothing...just surprised when you send you weren't running xubuntu any before (the other day)18:32
maxamilliongrazie: oh, yeah ... i actually haven't been running xubuntu for quite some time .... ubuntu kept releasing updates that made my machines no longer boot and i don't have time to chase down fixes, so i switched back to debian18:33
graziemaxamillion: I see..updates can be a real curse18:34
maxamilliongrazie: but the problem is that in the 7 years i have run debian i have never had a single update break *anything*18:44
* maxamillion knocks on wood18:44
graziemaxamillion: sorry....multi tasking...very slowly. Yeah Debian stability is not famous without good reason18:50
graziemaxamillion: just got a new machine myself and Gutsy has been brilliant in supporting new hardware. Others distros have failed miserably18:53
tuna-fishso, I just installed xubuntu gutsy, and the restricted drivers manager crashes when I try to run it.19:09
tuna-fishany advice?19:09
tuna-fishhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42600/19:10
maxamilliongrazie: well, i am actually running debian testing on my laptop ... it runs all the same versions of software that gutsy does and i've had stellar stability there as well ... it even has the 2.6.22 kernel (and rumors of 2.6.23 moving to it within the next month have been floating around)19:16
graziemaxamillion: oh I thought Debian was always a bit behind even on the utlra dev branch (or whatever it's really called)19:32
maxamilliongrazie: sid? (also known as unstable) is actually always ahead of ubuntu19:35
graziemaxamillion: thanks for that...my debian knowledge is v.limited19:38
maxamilliongrazie: well next time i get some free time i will fill you in ++ :)19:43
maxamilliongrazie: well, i gotta run ... ttyl19:44
evil_tech#fluxbuntu19:46
evil_techhow do you get pidgin to automatically join channels20:05
namegoneis there a way to make custom keyboard layouts in xubuntu?21:09
hyper___chhiho21:55
tsubasaleguedinxubuntu+xfce compositor+awn+jukebox3d+exaile22:00
tsubasaleguedinhttp://hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=8oyxvwf7.jpg22:00
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evil_techguten morgen herr mark7622:38
Mark76Hey Evil22:38
Mark76How's it hanging?22:38
evil_techcoldly against my leg22:38
evil_techheater apparently isnt working22:39
Mark76That's what happens when you store dead trout in your trousers22:39
evil_techlol22:39
Mark76I tried to install Mandriva 2008 earlier22:39
ubotuMandriva bug 2008 in Core Packages "reloading the user config or system menu closes the menudrake window" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=200822:39
Mark76And I learned something22:40
evil_techwhats that22:40
evil_tech?22:40
Mark76I have no idea how to set up partitions or the grub boot loader22:40
evil_techlol22:40
evil_techgrub takes some getting used to22:41
Mark76Yeah. It asked me where I wanted to store it. Or something22:41
Mark76And I had NO idea22:41
evil_techi understand how it works but still have no clue how to fix it when it breaks something22:41
evil_techwell usually you want it in the master boot record on your hard drive22:41
Mark76AH. Hard drive22:42
Mark76Hmm. I thought that's where I'd put it22:42
evil_techwell you can put it on other things too. that is part of the reason it asks22:42
Mark76Yeah, I might have put it in the root22:43
Mark76All I know is that when I tried to run the computer after installing it nothing happened22:44
evil_techwell it stores some of its configuration stuff there i think. actually i think it is in /boot/grub but i'm probably wrong22:44
evil_techyeah grub is in /boot/grub22:45
Mark76Right22:45
evil_techso what did it say exactly? ive never used mandriva so i havent a clue what the installer looks like22:45
Mark76OH well, I doubt there's very much in Mandriva that isn't already in Ubuntu22:45
evil_techtrue22:46
evil_techi'm playing with fluxbox :)22:47
evil_techfluxbuntu rather22:47
Mark76I'm installing some games including a package that includes the Legend of Zelda!22:47
evil_techsweet22:47
Mark76How old is that anyway?22:47
evil_techi got FCEU working so i can play all my NES roms22:47
Mark76What's Fluxbuntu like?22:48
evil_technice i like the default theme. and its quick man22:48
Mark76Cool22:48
evil_techeven on this old 500mhz i have it on22:48
Mark76Fantastic :D22:48
Mark76How did you get it?22:49
evil_techits finally available on the get page of the website22:49
Mark76Woohoo22:49
Mark76Say, do you have Windows?22:49
evil_techyeah22:49
Mark76Can you access the sourceforge downloads page for Lubi using IE?22:50
evil_techhmm let me check22:50
Mark76Because I was trying to get a friend of mine to download the no CD installation version of Ubuntu GG and she just couldn't connect to that page22:52
evil_techyeah i got to it22:52
Mark76Hmm. Maybe it was her lousy dial up connection then22:54
evil_techeeew dial up22:54
Mark76Tell me about it22:54
Mark76I'm so glad I missed out22:54
evil_techi remember dial up22:57
evil_techmy first modem was 14.4kbps22:57
evil_techah them were the days22:57
Mark76Good job the net was mostly text back then22:58
evil_techthis is true22:59
evil_techmostly irc and aol chat22:59
evil_techsome newgroups22:59
Mark76I'm looking at Adonthell23:00
evil_techwhats that23:00
Mark76I think it's an RPG23:00
Mark76There's a forest23:00
Mark76And some bird called Lady Silverhair23:00
evil_techhmm23:01
Mark76So it's either an RPG or the gayest FPS ever23:01
evil_techlol23:01
Mark76I wonder when the base pack of XP will come down in price?23:02
evil_techprobably never. too many people want it since Vista has so many problems23:03
Mark76Hee hee23:03
Mark76They'll have to learn to love it once MS withdraw support for XP23:10
evil_techoh yeah thats going to be fun23:11
Mark76Oh well23:14
Mark76It's not my problem23:14
evil_techwill be mine since i have to support it23:14
Mark76Oh dear23:14
Mark76Damn, I think I need open GL23:16
evil_techyou dont have it installed?23:18
Mark76Doesn't seem like it23:19
evil_techthought that was loaded by default23:20
evil_techapparently not cause it doesnt seem to be on mine either23:21
Mark76I just installed the Python package23:22
Mark76I obviously need something more23:22
evil_techdoes what needs it say which one it wants23:23
Mark76NO23:24
Mark76The games just fail to open23:24
evil_techi was getting a similar error about 3d and rendering not being on with boson23:26
Mark76How did you fix it?23:26
evil_techi didnt23:27
evil_techcouldnt figure it out cause i had compiz installed which should have enabled 3d rendering (i thought obviously thats incorrect)23:28
evil_techthat and the game kept crashing X23:28
TheSheepMark76: run them from a terminal, then they should print you what's wrong23:28
Mark76Okay23:28
evil_techthat and they probably have log files23:29
evil_techthe boson game did23:30
evil_techkept crashing cause i didnt have the 3d acceleration23:30
Mark76This is what I got when I tried to run billard-gl from the terminal OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'23:31
Mark76Chromium23:31
Mark76WARNING: could not read config file (/home/mark/.chromium)23:31
Mark76WARNING: could not read score file (/home/mark/.chromium-score)23:31
Mark76randomizing.23:31
Mark76SDL initialized.23:31
Mark76Couldn't set GL mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual23:31
Mark76Segmentation fault (core dumped)23:31
TheSheep!pastebin23:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)23:32
Mark76GLX is the common thread23:33
Mark76IS there a quick and easy way to install GLX?23:34
evil_techwell fluxbuntu has it installed already23:35
Mark76Something like aptitude install glx would be nice23:35
evil_techso i would imagine xubuntu should as well?23:36
Mark76Hang on23:37
evil_techsudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx23:37
Mark76I ahve NVidia legacy glx installed23:39
Mark76And the driver activated23:39
Ben_Cshello23:39
Ben_Csdoes gutsy have samba automaically pre-configured?23:39
evil_techdunno23:40
evil_technot on my machine23:41
evil_techMark76: maybe you need the latest driver?23:42
Mark76I already have libgll-mesa-glx installed apparently23:43
Mark76Nah, I had them working yesterday23:43
evil_techhmm its a mystery23:43
Mark76Ah, but yesterday I had the full Gnubuntu installed23:44
evil_techis that the totally free ubuntu23:44
evil_tech?23:44
Mark76No, it's the original Ubuntu23:46
Mark76I just decided to add the Gn(ome) on a whim23:46
Mark76This is interesting23:46
Mark76It's a 123:47
evil_techeh?23:47
Mark76The 3rd l in libgll is a 123:48
Mark76And it's already installed23:48
evil_techyeah23:48
PowerGoI am running Xubuntu live, and Xorg is using a crap ton of CPU23:48
PowerGoWill that happen once I install it ?23:48
bradappelHi, I'm new to the channel, don't beat me up :), but I just installed Xubuntu on my laptop, and I'm having some trouble.  How/where can I look at the boot log?23:48
evil_techno not if it is installed properly23:49
PowerGoevil_tech: that was my answer or someone else ?23:49
evil_techyours23:49
Mark76I'd expect the boot log to be under boot in the file system23:49
bradappelUbuntu was working fine the other day, I decided to install Xubuntu, and now that I've installed the wireless drivers, it refuses to come up with X23:50
dgimsehi I was wondering how i would go about changing my menu.lst doc in 7.10?23:50
Mark76At least that would seem like the logical place23:50
PowerGoOK.  Another thing is , Ubuntu wouldn't run worth a damn , will this provide a more smoother system ?23:50
PowerGoI am on an older computer.23:50
evil_techwhat are the specs of the machine powergo23:50
evil_techthat or check /var/log23:51
PowerGop2 450, 320 MBs of SDRAM, 10 GB hd internal, VooDoo3 3dfx 8 MB AGP23:51
Mark76There's a bootlog in var/log23:51
grommithockey/clear/clear23:52
evil_techwell in mine there is a file called boot in /var/log. nothing in it though23:52
Mark76Same here23:52
bradappelthat's a directory23:52
PowerGoevil_tech: Will that be enough , or will it run slower and WindowsXP on crack like Ubuntu ?23:52
evil_techpowergo: that should run xubuntu fine23:52
PowerGoslower than WindowsXP*23:52
bradappelchecking /var/log/dmesg now to see if it gives a clue23:52
evil_techif not id check to see if the hard drive is giving up the ghost23:53
PowerGoevil_tech: For some reason Ubuntu/Gnome ran worse than XP with fading.23:53
evil_techfor anything under 700mhz xubuntu runs better23:54
Mark76YEah23:54
evil_techor if you really want you can try the new fluxbuntu23:54
Mark76I have 833 giHz and I still prefer Xubuntu23:54
PowerGoevil_tech: Last I checked, they didn't have it ready , just the RC23:54
Mark76I just tried to aptitude install fluxbuntu, Evil23:54
Mark76No dice23:55
evil_techits fluxbuntu-desktop23:55
Aviatrixiehello  :)23:55
evil_techpowergo: just cause it is a release candidate doesnt mean it isnt usable23:55
Mark76Yeah, that's what I typed23:55
Mark76Nothing came23:55
PowerGoevil_tech: If it looks anything like KDE, I will want to smash it.23:56
evil_techbesides the more people who try it and report bugs the better the final will be23:56
evil_techno it looks like DSL23:56
evil_technot as crowded and green instead of the dark theme23:56
evil_techMark76: i dunno why its not there should be.23:57
PowerGoThere's always been something about KDE that made me go "bluhh.."23:57
Mark76I'll try again23:57
PowerGoevil_tech: Yes, but I have limited bandwidth usage per day, besides 2-5 AM23:57
PowerGoI don't want to download something that I know I'm going to have to redo23:57
evil_techdownload DSL then and give it a try. its only 50mb23:58
Mark76E: Couldn't find package fluxbuntu-desktop23:58
PowerGoDSL? Digital Subscriber Line ?23:58
Aviatrixiedamn small linux23:58
evil_techwhat he said^23:59
PowerGooh yeah23:59
PowerGoBut I liked how everything (just about) was ready to go in Ubuntu23:59
Mark76Nope. You can't install Fluxbuntu from the command line yet23:59
evil_techhmm23:59
PowerGoNothing big to do to get it to actually work23:59
evil_techlet me check my sources.list23:59
Aviatrixiepuppy is good too, but not debian... tho they just adoted slack23:59

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