[00:00] <Photocopy> biovore: Good point, but do you know if KDE would accept it if I edited the icon to be a rectangle? Cause the icons it use now are perfect squares
[00:00] <kyron> Ah...other kernel works...
[00:00] <Photocopy> profoX` I am not that skilled haha
[00:00] <kyron> so the kernel upgrade failed and I was left with a dead system...hmm... not good..meh!
[00:00] <Tm_T> Photocopy: icons can be in any shape
[00:00] <biovore> Photocopy: the png loader should handel.. there square because thats what makes sense.. the hard requirement for it..
[00:00] <Photocopy> Tm_T I know that, but will the panel scrunch it into a square?
[00:01] <Photocopy> biovore: Thanks.. ill try looking for those icon
[00:01] <biovore> The only other way would to do some coding..
[00:01] <Tm_T> Photocopy: no
[00:02] <Tm_T> Photocopy: if you mean cropping
[00:02] <Photocopy> Tm_T I actually meant "squishing" for my lack of a better term
[00:02] <Tm_T> Photocopy: scaling?
[00:02] <Photocopy> like it being stretched
[00:02] <Photocopy> yeah scaled into a square
[00:02] <kat> Hi folks... still sorting out how repositories work:  if I'm using 6.06 and want to install the latest version of K3B is there an easy way to do with with a GUI?
[00:03] <Photocopy> why are you using 6.06?
[00:03] <biovore> well you get whats in the repos
[00:03] <Photocopy> there is newer stable.... >_>
[00:03] <Tm_T> Photocopy: well no, it will be scaled to fit to room it has to use, but no, it wont be reshaped
[00:03] <biovore> 6.06 is long term support..
[00:03] <Photocopy> good
[00:03] <profoX`> kat: I would just keep the version that's available if you choose to keep 6.06
[00:03] <biovore> ^ that stable
[00:03] <biovore> 7.10 is a short term release..
[00:03] <kat> I'm scared about upgrading :(
[00:03] <Tm_T> yes
[00:03] <hydrogen> its good to be scared about upgrading
[00:04] <Photocopy> upgrading is a snap... ive done it... once
[00:04] <Tm_T> kat: with gui you said?
[00:04] <biovore> I have computers using 6.06 here..
[00:04] <Photocopy> lol
[00:04] <kat> i'm guessing it's not kosher to start using feisty repositories while on dapper...
[00:04] <Tm_T> kat: not in easy way unfortunately
[00:05] <Tm_T> kat: and no, you're not supported to jump over versions :(
[00:05] <CPrompt^> kat : don't use Feisty repos on dapper.  you'll break something i'm sure ;)
[00:05] <kat> i've got synaptic and adept... so i guess if i want to test out the new version of k3b, my best best is download source, make and install?
[00:05] <hydrogen> it may not even compile
[00:06] <kat> hrm
[00:06] <CPrompt^> kat : what version of K3B do you have now?
[00:06] <kat> any other decent burning software out there?
[00:06] <CPrompt^> nope
[00:06] <hydrogen> cdrecord :)
[00:06] <kat> current version of k3b is 0.12.something
[00:06] <CPrompt^> not in my book anyway ;)
[00:06] <Tm_T> kat: arson (very simple)
[00:06] <kat> i dunno, just uninstalled it
[00:06] <kat> might not fix probs though, having permission issues... the auto conifiguring tool in k3b didn't fix it either
[00:07] <vzduch> kat: apt-cache show k3b
[00:07] <vzduch> shows details about the pkg
[00:07] <kat> neato thanks... 0.12.14
[00:08] <kat> learn a new command every day
[00:08] <star> Are there any program like virtualbox and vmware that can run 3d-effects?
[00:08] <biovore> if you linux for another 10 years.. might learn them all..
[00:08] <biovore> Its kinda like pokenmon.. lolz
[00:08] <star> Are there any program like virtualbox and vmware that can run 3d-effects?
[00:09] <biovore> nope..
[00:09] <vzduch> !repeat | star
[00:09] <ubotu> star: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:09] <kyron> vzduch, > :P
[00:10] <kyron> vzduch, http://www.blender.org/
[00:10] <kat> hmmm... arson doesn't do DVD... cuz what i want to do is data... 2nd hard drive is getting smaller very very quickly
[00:10] <kat> ?
[00:10] <patxi> anybody knows how can I use qt-jambi?
[00:11] <CPrompt^> kat : maybe tell us what you are wanting to do and what is going wrong? ;)
[00:11] <kyron> how do I unlock the apt database...the apt_manager crashed earlyer (rebooted since!)
[00:11] <vzduch> !aptfix | kyron
[00:11] <ubotu> kyron: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:11] <CPrompt^> kat : sounds like you are wanting to backup your second hard drive?  Can you access your second hard drive?  Read and write?
[00:12] <kat> k3b won't burn dvds, don't know if it does cds anymore... ran out of cds, only have dvds left to try... error message says something about permissions... hold on I'll find details to post
[00:12] <kyron> vzduch, thanks ;) ...oh..clender wasn't for you...
[00:12] <kyron> blender that is
[00:12] <kyron> star, http://www.blender.org/
[00:13] <Jucato> kyron: hm.... I don't think that was what star was looking for
[00:13] <vzduch> kyron: blender is not a virtualization software..
[00:14] <kyron> hey he wants 3D ...hehehe
[00:14] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[00:15] <Monkii> blender rocks
[00:15]  * kyron looks back and is astound at how people waste resources to the point of virtualising an OS that shouldn't be called one.
[00:15] <Monkii> lol
[00:15] <kat> problem here: http://members.shaw.ca/katherinescrupa/extras/dvd.txt
[00:15] <Monkii> "Virtualized evil"?
[00:16] <kyron> Monkii, yeah...that way you can try to convince me it's not _real_ evil
[00:16] <kyron> it's only faked
[00:16] <biovore> There is also emulated evil..
[00:16] <Monkii> @ kyron - We'll get you my pretty... and your little dog, too!
[00:16] <kyron> dpkg --configure -a << does this sorta ..... oh forget it..I am happy now, back to a console... man dpkg :P
[00:17] <renato> can someone help me get desktop effects on kubuntu 7.10
[00:17] <biovore> !compiz
[00:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:17] <kyron> Monkii, take the dogs...all of em!...couldn't care less
[00:17] <kyron> :P
[00:17] <Monkii> to quote WINE "an evil 'application layer'..."
[00:17] <kyron> mweheheh...true
[00:18] <kyron> WINE <- a package that describes it's user's request for existence through it's name
[00:19] <Monkii> My brains hurting just thinking about that one...
[00:20] <kyron> Monkii, MWAHAHAHAHHA!
[00:20] <Monkii> @renato - I just installed the Nvidia / ATI driver with restricted-manager-kde and then installed compiz and emerald. Run by typing compiz --replace
[00:20] <kyron> *sigh*... I don't have one machine working correctly with Kubuntu as of now... thought this was supposed to be easy
[00:21] <kyron> Monkii, NVIDIA/ATI driver...uhm...eh...
[00:21] <Monkii> ... speaking of evil...
[00:21] <kat> k3b wants to change cd and dvd drive permissions from 660 to 666 (root.cdrom)... and the only other changes are for cdrecord... both want to change from 4754 root.cdrom to  755 root.root.... are those right?
[00:22] <kyron> Monkii, we have a theme going here
[00:22] <biovore> kat: sounds about right..
[00:22] <kat> hmmm, gonna give this another try...
[00:23] <Monkii> *sigh* Can't wait for a decent open source ATI driver... and KDE 4(.1)
[00:23] <SUka> 1236
[00:26] <kyron> Monkii, we all dream of that world
[00:26] <kat> burning... well not really, now it's just counting, but not actually doing any progress... this is new
[00:26] <k5ubuntu> hey i need help setting up a good but not the best graphics for kubuntu because i have ati internal graphics and it wont work on compiz its too taggy
[00:26] <k5ubuntu> laggy*
[00:27] <k5ubuntu> any recomendations?
[00:27] <kat> asking me for a empty/appendable dvd... it is empty... ok fine, i'll put in a new one..
[00:28] <wilson__> is nvidia still better than ati for now ?
[00:29] <k5ubuntu>  yes
[00:29]  * wilson__ shrugs
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> ati is really laggy
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> plus nvidia is a better graphics card
[00:29] <wilson__> i have an nvidia 7300 based card, didnt cost much, does the job
[00:29] <biovore> ati drivers havn't been very good..
[00:29] <biovore> don't know about the lastest ones..
[00:29] <k5ubuntu> saying that ati comes from amd its crappy even intel beats ati in internal graphics
[00:30] <k5ubuntu> right here i have a dell latitude 131l from my buisness i have ati graphics it wont even work with compiz
[00:31] <k5ubuntu>  vista rates my internal ati at 2.9 for score the processor 2.9
[00:31] <k5ubuntu> 3.9*
[00:31] <kat> dammit... well here's the output of that experiment http://members.shaw.ca/katherinescrupa/extras/k3bdebug1.txt
[00:31] <kat> i guess i'll fire off an email to the k3b list
[00:32] <k5ubuntu> i have no clue
[00:32] <k5ubuntu> im looking at it thats wierd
[00:33] <wilson__> kat: seems to be saying there's no media in the drive or something
[00:33] <begert_> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Alpha i386 (20070823)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press [Enter].
[00:33] <begert_> anyone else get this when they try to update?
[00:33] <Angelus> this guide is confusing me, can someone tell me  which i need to get , apt-get source or apt-get install linux-source, to compile a kernel like the ubuntu one with restricted modules and everything?
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> ye
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> yes
[00:33] <k5ubuntu> me
[00:34] <begert_> and hows that going for ya?
[00:34] <Jucato> !kernel | Angelus
[00:34] <ubotu> Angelus: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[00:34] <wilson__> kat: trying making the iso with k3b , and burning it with wodim instead .  wodim [iso filename] dev=/dev/hdc
[00:35] <Jucato> begert_: perhaps you still have the cdrom repository enabled. in Adept Manager, go to the Adept Menu -> Manage Repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[00:35] <Jucato> (should be in the Third party software tab)
[00:35] <k5ubuntu> you know what im going to try, xubuntu its like a crossover between ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:35] <Angelus> ok
[00:36] <Angelus> is there a way to make adept look for sources? like "apt-get source " ?
[00:36] <begert_> let me check Jucato
[00:36] <Jucato> Angelus: currently? nope
[00:36] <Angelus> ok
[00:36] <k5ubuntu> hey does anybody know good desktop effects that work with ati
[00:36] <k5ubuntu> like not as good as compiz
[00:37] <kat> wilson_: i'm not burning software, don't want iso... got avi's and other junk
[00:38] <purpleposeidon> no, "install compiz" does NOT mean "install compiz and metacity"! >:O
[00:38] <kat> heh
[00:38] <kat> that's one of the reasons i switched to linux :)
[00:38] <k5ubuntu> !find effects
[00:38] <ubotu> Found: heroes-sound-effects, r-cran-effects
[00:38] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effects!
[00:38] <ubotu> Found: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gnome-desktop-data (and 45 others)
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effects
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> ?
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find effects
[00:39] <ubotu> Found: heroes-sound-effects, r-cran-effects
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> ........
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> omg
[00:39] <wilson__> yeah with k3b you can choose 'only create image' and then click on the image tab and save it to whatever file you want like stuff.iso
[00:39] <k5ubuntu> !find desktop effect
[00:39] <ubotu> Found: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gnome-desktop-data (and 45 others)
[00:40] <k5ubuntu> jesus
[00:40] <k5ubuntu> !patience | k5ubuntu
[00:40] <Angelus> ok , apt-get source linux-source gave me an empy linux-meta folder with a debian folder and debian config, isntt' this too empty for a kernel source? and got downloaded in 2secs
[00:40] <wilson__> then you can use wodim on the command line ... wodim stuff.iso dev=/dev/hdd
[00:40] <kyron> dpkg --configure -a gives me an error at the end on 4 packages: acpid acpi-support powermanagement-interface and kubuntu-desktop.... what shall I do now O_o
[00:42] <begert_> thanks Jucato, that did it ;)
[00:44] <kat> k wilson_ , i'll give that a try
[00:44] <kyron> anyone...where should I go from here...re-install the errounous packages?
[00:45] <juan> !broadcom
[00:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:48] <kat> well it's burning the image now
[00:49] <Monkii> @kron - I've found that doing a sudo apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, then dpkg --configure -a again often fixes things
[00:50] <Monkii> Often it's just that it couldn't install something the first time around
[00:50] <Monkii> (kron = kyron ;-)
[00:51] <juan> which driver do i want bcm43xx/bcm43xx-mac80211 or where should i ask?
[00:51] <kyron> Monkii, ah thanks...that's the magic procedure... see.. me being under GEntoo for the past 5 years must have turned my brains to mush :P
[00:51] <snipz> hey guys was wondering does the live cd allow accessing of ntfs partitioned drives?
[00:51] <kyron> Monkii, actually...these 4 packages are complaining about unresolved dependancies....
[00:52] <Monkii> Ah Gentoo... the dark horse in the linux race!
[00:52] <kyron> Monkii, mweheheh
[00:52] <kyron> may I paste my errors to you?
[00:52] <Monkii> sure
[00:53] <wilson__> weird, guess it is something to do with k3b then maybe
[00:53] <wilson__> you are using rewitables are you kat ?
[00:53] <kyron> Monkii, yeah, it's french, I am setting this up for a friend from France
[00:53] <kyron> Monkii, anything fammiliar to you
[00:54] <Monkii> Hmmm... mon francais c'est terrible...
[00:55] <Monkii> and what happens when you apt-get install those 4 packages?
[00:55] <wilson__> when is the next gentoo coming out 2700.0 was april
[00:55] <wilson__> 1007.0 i mean
[00:56] <wilson__> god, 2007.0
[00:56] <kyron> Monkii, ...uhm...euh...let's TRY! :P
[00:56] <Monkii> ok! hang on...
[00:57] <Monkii> @kyron - Do you have any manually configured packages?
[00:57] <Monkii> Sometimes they can get in the way...
[00:59] <Angelus> is it posible to run "make menuconfig" to edit one of the configs in debian/config/arch/ ?
[00:59] <dave> how do you format a hard drive in kubuntu?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> dave, do you want to format a different partition ?
[01:03] <kyron> Monkii, LOL...nope, I just started installing Kubnuntu yesterday..
[01:03] <kyron> Monkii, it tells me the packages don't exist...which I would doubt...
[01:04] <kyron> so "re-sync" the package tree I shall do!
[01:04] <dave> blueskaj, d drivee
[01:04] <alyx-trust> hey room
[01:05] <BluesKaj> dave, to what file system , ntfs or ext3 orr... ?
[01:05] <dave> blueskaj,ntfs
[01:06] <softmaster> hi
[01:06] <softmaster> my kde doesnt start automatiacally
[01:07] <softmaster> i have to start it manually everytime i logon
[01:07] <dave> blueskaj, can i do it through dolphin?
[01:07] <BluesKaj> dave, I don't format from kubuntu ...I use gparted  bootable live cd for resizing and formatting partitions
[01:07] <dave> blueskaj, i am not that advanced
[01:08] <kyron> Monkii, ...no success..my problem starts at acpid not wanting to start...could it be that I rebooted with the broken kernel (older one) ?
[01:08] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:08] <dope> what's up with that
[01:10] <dave> blueskaj, you mean i have to burn a cd just to format a drive???
[01:10] <mneptok> dave: gparted
[01:11] <BluesKaj> dave download and burn gparted live cd , it's very straightforward and quite easy to use ...I was a newb once and was able to use it ...the only problem is if you already have kubunti installed ,then installing windows will wipe out the bootloader grub menu and you won't be able to boot into kubuntu ...it's always better to install windows first , then kubuntu
[01:11] <dave> is that linux software?
[01:11] <mneptok> yes
[01:11] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:11] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:11] <dave> blueskaj, theres no windows involved
[01:12] <BluesKaj> ntfs is windows
[01:12] <dave> blueskaj its a kubuntu install computer
[01:13] <dave> linux reads ntfs
[01:13] <BluesKaj> then why ntfs ?
[01:13] <BluesKaj> yes
[01:13] <dave> safer format
[01:13] <dave> than fat 32
[01:13] <dope> when i boot from the live cd it just says "no emulation" and then says isolinux 3.36 debian-2007-08-30 and then does nothing
[01:14] <BluesKaj> ok ,so you're just going to store files there ?
[01:14] <dave> yes
[01:14] <softmaster> my kde doesnt start automatiacally i have to start it manually everytime i logon
[01:15] <softmaster> any solution
[01:15] <softmaster> ?
[01:15] <BluesKaj> well dave, gparted is till a good idea ...it's nice to have around
[01:16] <dave> il look into it later,thanks
[01:17] <hagabaka> i couldn't use the parted on kubuntu feisty live CD to resize an ext3 partition because it had "unsupported features". does anyone know if the one in gutsy fixes the problem?
[01:20] <lophyte> hey all.. I just installed Gutsy, and for some reason all my menu items look like "_: Entries in K-menu:" and a long string, rather than the actual name of the app.. has this happened to anyone else?
[01:21] <cosenal> hi
[01:21] <cosenal> a weird thing is happened
[01:21] <dave> guess im not going to get my question answered here. guess ill search elsewhere :(
[01:22] <cosenal> all of a sudden my knetowrkmanager says: No active device
[01:23] <morphinex> hey folks, where can I get a working pidgin 2.2.2 package for gutsy?
[01:23] <cosenal> it's weird because it have been always working
[01:23] <cosenal> (I'm using Kubuntu 7.10)
[01:24] <cosenal> and it worked well also with 7.04
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> ok guys im testing my lag someone help me out
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> 1.3 seconds
[01:25] <rob_> I hate compiz
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> y?
[01:25] <rob_> it's not as user friendly as beryl was
[01:25] <rob_> I mean
[01:25] <rob_> it's a great program so I don;t really hate it
[01:25] <Alyx-trust> how do you intall beryl?
[01:26] <kat> Hoookay... dvd chick here again... no not using rewritables... i have the iso now, can't find wodim... tried sudo apt-get install wodim as well, that didn't find anything.... where is it located? (thanks for your help btw)
[01:26] <BluesKaj> Alyx-trust, ping=2secs
[01:26] <rob_> beryl is gone from the package manager and I'm too lazy to manually  install
[01:26] <Alyx-trust> thanks BluesKaj
[01:27] <BluesKaj> Alyx-trust, where are you ?
[01:27] <Alyx-trust> i would love to install it on my laptop but last time it installed but didnt display edges
[01:27] <kat> can't find wodim in /usr/bin
[01:27] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj USA but im testing out my tor
[01:28] <BluesKaj> !beryl | Alyx-trust
[01:28] <ubotu> Alyx-trust: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[01:28] <Alyx-trust> trying not to be so "here I am" in the irc
[01:28] <Alyx-trust> ok so try compix fusion
[01:28] <kyron> Monkii, when I attempt to install the 4 packages, it tells me they don't exist in the repository...should I simply delete them?...but they all have to do with power management... and this IS a laptop
[01:29] <BluesKaj>  Alyx-trust ,Ontario Canada here...seems you've got a bit of a lag there
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj yeah because of tor I dont want it to ident my IP
[01:30] <Monkii> lol, I'm in Ontario, too :)
[01:30] <BluesKaj> yeah well, tor is usually not that slow
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> i know
[01:30] <Alyx-trust> lol
[01:31] <Monkii> @kyron, have you tried enabling all repositories in Adept_Manager?
[01:31] <Alyx-trust> hey is it compiz i should be installing what are the packages called?
[01:31] <rickey> anyone here do alot of work in open office?
[01:31] <GS3User007> what's the opposite of 'startx'?
[01:31] <kyron> yeah...pretty much...but these shouldn't be "out of main stream"
[01:32] <BluesKaj> GS3User007, what are you trying to do ?
[01:32] <cosenal> GS3User007: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[01:33] <GS3User007> thanks
[01:33] <Alyx-trust> that restarts X
[01:33] <RangerX> hello
[01:33] <Angelus> !adeptfix
[01:33] <Angelus> !aptfix
[01:34] <BluesKaj> don't think that's what he wanted , cosenal
[01:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:34] <Monkii> @kron, and I'm assuming you did that apt-get update... because I *do* see those packages in my repos
[01:34] <Monkii> (kron = kyron - again!)
[01:34] <cosenal> BluesKaj: but he said "thanks", so... :P
[01:34] <kyron> Monkii, yeah I did...maybe I should change my repo....maybe canadian repo is frozen :P
[01:35] <cosenal> all of a sudden my knetowrkmanager says: No active device
[01:35] <cosenal> it's weird because it have been always working
[01:35] <cosenal> and it worked well also with 7.04
[01:35] <Monkii> could be... I noticed they seem to cut out more than the main server too.. :(
[01:35] <BluesKaj> cosenal, he was asking how to get to to the TTY prompt  , a while ago
[01:36] <Angelus> cosenal: its still works, it says that because you are not using dhcp but a manual configuration
[01:36] <kyron> Monkii, O_o....huh...really?
[01:36] <cosenal> Angelus: I didn't change anything!
[01:36] <BluesKaj> cosenal, behind a router ?
[01:37] <Angelus> cosenal: artificial inteligence, its a normal evulation nowadays in computers
[01:37] <Angelus> LOL
[01:37] <cosenal> BluesKaj: yes
[01:37] <Angelus> cosenal: check if you are using dhcp or not, if not, change to dhcp
[01:37] <Monkii> cosenal - Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces... If the interface (eg eth1) is in there, knetworkmanager won't use your device (strange, I know) This got me a couple of times
[01:38] <Angelus> cosenal: you can do it by right clicking on th system tray icon and clicking manual configuration
[01:38] <cosenal> it changed by itself?
[01:38] <Angelus> could be
[01:38] <Angelus> check just to make sure
[01:38] <BluesKaj> reboot the router , but firdst check in system setting /network for eth0 or eth1
[01:38] <Angelus> check if its using dhcp or not, if not change to dhcp, you will have you're device there again
[01:39] <cosenal> Angelus: the eth1 interface is configured to Automatic dhcp
[01:39] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I'm not able to reboot the router
[01:39] <cosenal> BluesKaj: I don't know where it is :)
[01:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[01:40] <Angelus> cosenal: http://your.default.gateway
[01:40] <Alyx-trust> BluesKaj how do you get your ident to not say you ip without tor?
[01:40] <Angelus> if you're default gateway is 192.168.123.254 , then http://192.168.123.254, it will give you router settings
[01:41] <cosenal> Angelus: I know, but I don't have passwd :)
[01:42] <Angelus> ah
[01:42] <Angelus> ok
[01:42] <kyron> Monkii, hmm...it tells me I am missing a dependancy for acpid to work properly: libc6 (>= 2.6-1)
[01:42] <kyron> but... I don't cotrol that...isn't apt_manager supposed to take care of all that^
[01:42] <kyron> ?
[01:42] <Angelus> cosenal: the router can be rebooted by pulling out its wire (of power) and put it back in
[01:43] <cosenal> Angelus: I don't know where it issssss!!!!!!
[01:43] <Angelus> ?
[01:43] <Angelus> you don't know where the router is ? WTF?
[01:43] <Angelus> grap the wire of the internet from you're computer , and move with it till you reach the router LOL
[01:44] <cosenal> Angelus: wireless
[01:44] <Angelus> O_O
[01:44] <Angelus> you're being imposible now
[01:44] <cosenal> but if I manually start wpa_supplicant
[01:44] <cosenal> it works
[01:45] <Angelus> try to hack you're brain's evolution path, the way to evolve in a human able to sence wire less connection,  and inject yo'self with a chemical to evolve in 15mins
[01:45] <kyron> Monkii, could it be that my repo is ill configured?...should I disable using pre-version updates?
[01:46] <cosenal> Monkii: anyway the interface eth1 is in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <Shinigami> Hi all, I'm having a resolution problem.  I set it to 1024x768 in system settings and aply.  However, every time I log in its back to 1680x1050.  It never stays.  Is there away to force it?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, admin mode ?
[01:54] <Tm_T> hi kids
[01:55] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: sorry I was, ehm, playing with kids
[01:55] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[01:55] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Yes, I did that one as well and it still reverts back.
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,  :)
[01:56] <sunny_> anyone there?
[01:56] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, have you configured your monitor driver ?
[01:56] <sunny_> Hi
[01:56] <Tm_T> sunny_: no, nobody here
[01:57] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: No, I never thought about it as I have never had to before.  Just installed Gusty.  Is it hard to do?
[01:58] <sunny_> What? who are you? You're not a human?
[01:58] <Tm_T> no, but I am very hu-man like
[01:58] <sunny_> All a rebot
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Shinigami, 'k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[01:58] <sunny_> Just human like!!!
[01:59] <BluesKaj> !ask | sunny_
[01:59] <ubotu> sunny_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:00] <Jucato> BluesKaj: he already did
[02:00] <Tm_T> whops
[02:00] <BigDaddy> Evening all. Got a question about KDM. Is there a way to have it show who is logged on underneath the users name? GDM does this. It would be better than having my wife having 5 sessions going at the same time
[02:00] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Ok, I'll try that.
[02:00] <sunny_> Nobody ask my question
[02:00] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:01] <npurciful> how do i get the alternate install (gutsy) to see my crypto lvm for reinstall
[02:02] <g2g591> what sunny is saying:his system freezes once it gets to Running local bootscript {OK}
[02:02] <sunny_> And now I use startx cann't go in X
[02:02] <sunny_> yes
[02:03] <sunny_> What's worng with it
[02:05] <g2g591> sunny:try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <jasonago> how can i put the command nvidia-settings on startup?
[02:06] <g2g591> jasonago:why would you want to do that?
[02:06] <sunny_> do what?
[02:06] <jasonago> the screen resolutions and refresh rates of my monitor is not always loaded on start up unless I will explicitly type nvidia-settings on konsole...
[02:07] <Diskonnected> hey people; does anybody know where i can get support for mac OS X Intel? i have no clue i figured u guys might know?
[02:07] <jasonago> is there any other way?
[02:08] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:08] <sunny_> Is Anyone can help me?
[02:09] <Alyx-Trust> ok BluesKaj i just had a bad experience with compiz-fusion
[02:09] <snipz> hey, does anyone know if tar follows systems links?
[02:10] <Alyx-Trust> just slowed me way the hell down
[02:10] <BluesKaj> Alyx-Trust, which graphics card do you have ?
[02:11] <Alyx-Trust> BluesKaj ati radeon 1100 xpress
[02:11] <Alyx-Trust> laptop
[02:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , ati and compiz don't mix too well
[02:11] <Diskonnected> does anybody know where the MAC OS X Support chat?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Diskonnected, whynot google your question
[02:12] <Diskonnected> i did
[02:12] <Diskonnected> cant find anything:(
[02:12] <Jucato> not the right place to ask though
[02:13] <Diskonnected> i know that; i just thought yall might know or might be willing to help me?
[02:13] <BigDaddy> Anyone at all know how to make KDM show users that are logged in?
[02:13] <Alyx-Trust> BluesKaj now my restart buttons are missing strange?
[02:15] <sunny_> I known it
[02:15] <Alyx-Trust> ok enough slow tor
[02:21] <sjovan> hi every one. I origanly installed festy, but I got a bit tierd of gnome. I have now isntalled the kde pack and I'm just wondering. How can i remove gnome if i deside to stick with kde?
[02:23] <yuriy> anybody have gmail imap working nicely in kmail?
[02:23] <ira> gmail is just too old and nasty
[02:23] <lophyte> I can
[02:23] <ira> zimbra
[02:23] <Jucato> sjovan:  <dasKreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[02:23] <Shinigami> BluesKaj: Thank you.  That fixed it right up. :) *waves*
[02:24] <lophyte> I can't find any information about enabling desktop effects in kubuntu gutsy.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:24] <Jucato> !compiz | lophyte
[02:24] <ubotu> lophyte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:24] <sjovan> daskreech:Jucato: yepp yepp
[02:24] <lophyte> oi
[02:24] <lophyte> thanks Jucato
[02:24] <mikes3> !compiz
[02:24] <mikes3> ?compiz
[02:24] <Tm_T> mikes3: dont
[02:24] <Tm_T> Jucato: you and your fresh eyes :(
[02:25] <Jucato> :)
[02:25] <angasule> !effects
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <angasule> !effect
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <angasule> !desktop
[02:25] <ubotu> A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[02:25] <angasule> hmm, to get desktop effects I should install compiz-kde, then?
[02:25] <Jucato> !compiz | lophyte
[02:25] <ubotu> lophyte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:26] <Jucato> er sorry
[02:26] <Jucato> !compiz | angasule
[02:26] <ubotu> angasule: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:26] <SudoKing> what's everybody up to with compiz
[02:26] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[02:26] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:26] <doudou> Hello, where can i find help for bluetooth audio on Kubuntu gutsy?
[02:27] <sunny_> Hi, does anyone can help me
[02:27] <sunny_> My system go to Runing local boot script (etc/rc.local) [OK] and hang on, How can I fix it?
[02:28] <a|2121|e> assalamualaikum
[02:29] <Gruelius> Is there an application to set the startup applications
[02:29] <mikes3> compiz-fusion installed,does not work properly,,the only distro i have had probs,,sid,,no problem,Mandriva by default,pclinux,Ubuntu even ,,Ubuntu gets freferential treatment i see
[02:30] <Jucato> Gruelius: by default, just leave the app running when you logout, it will be restarted when you log back in
[02:31] <Gruelius> jucato: i dont want the keeping of sessions or whatever its called
[02:31] <Jucato> !autostart | Gruelius
[02:31] <ubotu> Gruelius: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:31] <utnubuk> hey everyone, what program would you reccomend to rip a DVD to my machine?
[02:31] <Gruelius> thankyou
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Gruelius, alt+F2 ' kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart '
[02:31] <Tm_T> !dvd | utnubuk
[02:31] <ubotu> utnubuk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:31] <ardchoille> utnubuk: k9copy
[02:31] <utnubuk> thanks
[02:32] <sunny_> why I only can use sudo startx to start X-windows,
[02:33] <biovore> hmm..  probably started as root and it made root only files in your home directory..
[02:33] <barbaros> hi guys
[02:33] <barbaros> have u ever heard of yakuake ?
[02:34] <ardchoille> barbaros: I use it daily
[02:34] <BluesKaj> !info yakuake
[02:34] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[02:34] <barbaros> i try to lance it by pressing f12 but it does not run
[02:34] <barbaros> what can it be the possbile problem ?
[02:34] <barbaros> ive run it once then its gone
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: it hides above your desktop
[02:35] <barbaros> in command run diaglox box i write yakuake it says it has been lanced and i should press f12 but nothing happens when i press it
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: Open a terminal and type this: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState
[02:35] <kyron> Anyone else ever had this problem after installing 7.10? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/158427
[02:35] <ardchoille> barbaros: Once yakuake is open, click on the options to setup the toggle key combo
[02:35] <sunny_> how can I fixed it
[02:36] <sunny_> I use recover mode and use startx can startx the X-windows
[02:36] <wulfrano> saludos
[02:37] <sunny_> biovore, how can I fix it?
[02:37] <barbaros> hwere is tooggle key _?
[02:37] <biovore> sunny_: sudo chown <username> /home/<username> -R
[02:37] <biovore> try that..  username being your username..
[02:38] <sunny_> Thank you I try now
[02:38] <ira> any one smb cups?
[02:38] <ira> i can open my shared folders
[02:38] <ira> bu can not connect to a shared printer
[02:39] <SudoKing> what about me
[02:40] <SudoKing> oh n/m
[02:40] <Greenery> i'm planning to buy new gfx card either from nvidia or ATI but my concern is will the latest gx from either company works well with Kubuntu?
[02:40] <barbaros> i cant find a way to pull down this yakuake
[02:40] <ardchoille> barbaros: alt+f2: dcop yakuake DCOPInterface slotToggleState
[02:40] <barbaros> do i have to type all the time this cryptic command line ?
[02:41] <Tm_T> Greenery: nvidia should, though latest highend maybe not, but that's unfortunate truth with both of those
[02:41] <ardchoille> barbaros: No, once yakuake is open, you can set a toggle key combo
[02:41] <barbaros> how ?
[02:41] <barbaros> i ve tried to do it f12 is set right ?
[02:41] <ardchoille> barbaros: is yakuake open?
[02:41] <barbaros> i ve set f12 as alternative
[02:41] <barbaros> yep it's open
[02:42] <ardchoille> barbaros: click the options button (whichever it is for your skin) and choose "Configure Global Shortcuts
[02:42] <ardchoille> barbaros: middle button with a down arrow in it?
[02:42] <barbaros> open retrat yakuake shortcut f12 alternate f12
[02:43] <barbaros> do i have to reset those values ?
[02:43] <barbaros> when i click on f12 i cant see it
[02:43] <ardchoille> click on the Open/Retract.. then click on the Custom item below, then click the big button
[02:44] <BluesKaj> Greenery, as an ati user I'm kind of restricted due to the lack of support for ati in linux altho reports say it 's supposed to be better shortly ... nvidia seems to be more widely supported with better drivers etc
[02:44] <barbaros> primary shortcut is F12
[02:44] <barbaros> there
[02:44] <barbaros> alternate shortcut is F12 again
[02:44] <barbaros> multi-key is not selected
[02:45] <Helvasca> How do I rotate a monitor 90 degrees in the display setting?
[02:45] <ardchoille> barbaros: Use a different one for Alternate, if your f12 key isn't working, you don't have a primary or alternate the way you have it
[02:46] <Greenery> cool thanks for the suggestion
[02:46] <ardchoille> barbaros: I use ctrl+space
[02:46] <SudoKing> My F12 Key isn't working; I think there's a cookie crumb behind it
[02:46] <ardchoille> SudoKing: hahaha
[02:46] <Helvasca> ???\
[02:46] <barbaros> ive assigned win+f12
[02:46] <SudoKing> I love eating behind the keyboard :)
[02:46] <barbaros> so f12 key works but there is something wrong may it be assigned some other action too ?
[02:46] <ardchoille> barbaros: You can also make a launcher for your panel and use thqat command I gave you to toggle yakuake instead of using the key combo
[02:47] <sunny_> Hi, biovore
[02:47] <ardchoille> barbaros: That's why I said make a different one for alternate
[02:47] <biovore> oO
[02:47] <biovore> not work?
[02:47] <barbaros> does not kcontrols shortcuts diaglog warn me about that ?
[02:47] <sunny_> I try now,but found another problem
[02:47] <kyron> wow...I never thought kubuntu could be broken to such an extent... just resuming from pressing the power button on a laptop...get a blank illuminated screen...can't do a thing but reboot O_o
[02:47] <barbaros> what does launcher mean ?
[02:47] <barbaros> do i have to install it ?
[02:47] <barbaros> im a newbie ?
[02:48] <biovore> launcher is like a windows icon to run stuff..
[02:48] <barbaros> and also is there a way to remote connection as it's the case with windows xp
[02:48] <sunny_> Hi,/usr/share/X11/mics refcount is 2, should be 1
[02:49] <sunny_> what's refcount?
[02:49] <biovore> I don't even have a /usr/share/X11/mics
[02:49] <sunny_> Hi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/mics refcount is 2, should be 1
[02:49] <sunny_> I'm sorry
[02:50] <biovore> misc?
[02:50] <sunny_> yes
[02:50] <biovore> That has something to do with the fonts setup from /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[02:52] <sunny_> What's problem?
[02:52] <sunny_> about Xorg.conf
[02:52] <sunny_> How can I do ?
[02:55] <sunny_> Hi, biovore are you still in?
[02:55] <sunny_> there
[02:55] <biovore> sorta..
[02:55] <biovore> playing a game..
[02:57] <sunny_> In windows?
[02:57] <sunny_> what game is?
[02:57] <biovore> UT2K$
[02:58] <angasule> hey, do you know the compiz config manager has wrong deps?
[02:58] <pfein> is kio_http_cache_cleaner hammering anyone else's disk?
[02:58] <sunny_> Hi, anyone known about what is refcount
[02:59] <kyron> ok...that's it...I'm going 7.04
[02:59] <hydrogen> go!
[03:01] <kyron> well..it's retro from 7.10 ...hell, I installed it 3 times on a given laptop and all the config gets screwy (menus and all) where as, I have this other laptop that upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04...but that one now has 4 problematic packages that crash adept
[03:02] <damian> hi
[03:02] <BluesKaj> kyron , if possible install synaptic , it has a repair function for broken packages
[03:05] <elpez> anybody knows how to use sd camera cards
[03:05] <elpez> ?
[03:05] <sunny_> Hi, anyone known about what is refcount
[03:05] <kyron> BluesKaj, that a package manager?
[03:05] <kyron> BluesKaj, I know that to be a touchpad ;)
[03:06] <BluesKaj> yes , sismilar to adept but with more options
[03:06] <kyron> BluesKaj, ohhhh
[03:07] <BluesKaj> it's the default package manager used in gnome, but it works well in kde
[03:07] <kyron> that and I still don't seem to be able to get Medibuntu packages (ie: acroread isn't found) to be loaded in my selection (even though it's _there_, checked out and all...)
[03:07] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | kyron
[03:07] <ubotu> kyron: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:09] <hasan_> hi gusy
[03:09] <hasan_> here is the problem
[03:09] <hasan_> i ve got two accounts in my computer
[03:09] <hasan_> i just want to have every settings valid for the other account
[03:09] <hasan_> namely two accounts are barbaros and hasan
[03:09] <kyron> BluesKaj, Ahhhhhhhhh...there is NO medibuntu for 7.10 as of yet...
[03:09] <kyron> I get it
[03:10] <hasan_> and i want to have every setting valid for barbaros to be same as for hasan how can i do that *
[03:10] <hasan_> including kde settings etc ..
[03:10] <elpez> !sd card
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <BluesKaj> kyron, i just installed it
[03:11] <BluesKaj> acroread that is
[03:12] <kyron> BluesKaj, in 7.10...but the source-o-matic doesn't show Medibuntu as being available to select....
[03:14] <BluesKaj> it's available in other repos , kyron
[03:15] <kyron> BluesKaj, oh...sorry about that, didn't think it would be duplicated
[03:15] <BluesKaj> try the canonical debs
[03:17] <BluesKaj> such as: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner, deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy main
[03:20] <ardchoille> Getting an error: Could not find mime type: application/octet-stream. How do I get rid of it?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> weel , sacktime here ,nite all
[03:26] <kyron> blueyed, well...uhm.. well synaptics does give me some sort of better interface...but it doesn't fix the fact that I have 4 packages that just keep failing post-installation...
[03:26] <franck> hey
[03:26] <kyron> those are: acpid acpi-support powermanagement-interface kubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <posingaspopular> Jucato: you around?
[03:27] <Jucato> almost out. what can I do for you?
[03:27] <kyron> doeth...that was for BluesKaj...which is no longer
[03:28] <lostrue> f
[03:28] <lostrue> hello
[03:29] <posingaspopular> i put that problem im having on the forums, and asked everyone I know, and no one has been able to figure it out
[03:29] <posingaspopular> is there somewhere in the Kubuntu community where I can 'escalate support' because I am really stuck on this one.
[03:30] <Angelus> canonical support
[03:30] <Angelus> but its not free
[03:30] <Tm_T> :p
[03:30] <Jucato> posingaspopular: nixternal of course :)
[03:30] <khaije1> anyone here with a sony laptop? the 'sony laptop' module doesn't work for me
[03:31] <khaije1> posingaspopular: out of curiousity, what is the difficulty?
[03:31] <posingaspopular> i asked richard, but he only responds to like 5% of my pings. which is still quite alot ;p
[03:31] <posingaspopular> khaije1: my mem usage is upwards of 50%, causing my computer to run super slow and there is no reason for it. apps are only using a tiny fraction of my allocated mem/cpu space
[03:32] <posingaspopular> i can move around my desktop by using the CL and keyboard shortcuts and irssi, but it's still a pain
[03:33] <khaije1> posingaspopular: does top tell you
[03:34] <khaije1> posingaspopular: what does top tell you?
[03:35] <posingaspopular>  khaije1: what do you want specifically... 97 tasks.. 2 running cpu is 0.4us
[03:36] <posingaspopular> if I run 'htop' it shows my mem usage is WAYY up, but nothing related to the apps. the same thing shows up in kinformationcenter
[03:37] <khaije1> posingaspopular: i'm curious but dont' want to bug you if i can't help, is there a forum link you can give me, it's an interesting problem
[03:37] <khaije1> the stuff i would ask you've probably already been asked before
[03:38] <posingaspopular> you can bug me if you want, but i'll link you to the post I made in the ubuntu forums
[03:38] <khaije1> posingaspopular: so how much and what type of memory do you have
[03:39] <khaije1> how old is the machine, does it still happen from a live cd, or an alt OS
[03:40] <khaije1> kyron: are you a robotech fan?
[03:41] <posingaspopular> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595747
[03:41] <kyron> khaije1, heheh, I wasn't inspired by the game but came up with the name before knowing it's robotech origins...
[03:41] <kyron> which I actually adhered to ;)
[03:41] <posingaspopular> my machine is less than 2 years old, 2.66 ghz, i cant boot from live cd because of my stupid cd drive not liking me, eyc
[03:42] <posingaspopular> ping me if you want anything else, im going to be AF-IRC reading
[03:43] <khaije1> whats that ?
[03:46] <khaije1> posingaspopular: so your whole system is slow? is it just gui apps or is the cmdline sluggish too?
[03:48] <posingaspopular> i think it's just the gui. my initial impression was that the whole system was slow, but not that i test the konsole, it seems its just the gui stuff
[03:48] <khaije1> posingaspopular: and this started after clicking on a konversation alert?
[03:49] <posingaspopular> yea it was just a highlight, and when i clicked it, my computer went down hard\
[03:50] <khaije1> is the gui slow in the same way from the time you login to the time you sign out? does it fluctuate at all?
[03:51] <posingaspopular> no it's pretty much slow on a steady basis
[03:52] <posingaspopular> but im thinking it HAS to be a memory leak, because now my used physical memory is at 63% and its been steadily climing for the past 24 hours
[03:52] <posingaspopular> it was at 49% when I first started poking around the systek
[03:53] <khaije1> try installing a different window manager / desktop envirmonment (i'd reccommend fluxbox because it doesn't introduce a lot of dependiencies) and see is that is slow
[03:53] <posingaspopular> and my disk cache usage has been steady climing as well
[03:54] <khaije1> thats possible, but if it's a leak it should have a concrete source, and from what you've said it should be associate with something originating in the gui layer
[03:54] <khaije1> posingaspopular: you can disregard the cache info that doesn't really count toward your memory total
[03:55] <posingaspopular> hmm true
[03:55] <posingaspopular> i think im going to try booting off a live cd and swapping out the mouse, see if that helps much
[03:55] <khaije1> k
[03:57] <kazuma_> Hi
[03:57] <kazuma_> anyone can help me?
[03:58] <kazuma_> i need a amd 64 compiz fusion icon
[03:58] <GS3User007> how do i turn up my refresh rate? i know that my monitor is capable of 60, 70, 72, and 85 Hz. The only option is 60. How can I fix this?
[03:58] <biovore> GS3User007: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[03:59] <kazuma_> i need a compiz fusion icon for 64 bits pls
[03:59] <biovore> make one...
[04:00] <kazuma_> how
[04:00] <kazuma_> i'm newbie
[04:00] <kazuma_> :(
[04:00] <biovore> gimp.. inkscape..
[04:00] <GS3User007> biovore: i'm supposed to be looking at the "vertrefresh" field under 'monitor', right?
[04:00] <biovore> right..
[04:00] <kazuma_> is it hard?
[04:00] <kazuma_> cuz' belive me i'm new
[04:00] <GS3User007> biovore: it says 43-72
[04:00] <kazuma_> i want to run compiz just with 1 click
[04:01] <kazuma_> but i can't
[04:01] <biovore> I don't bother with compiz..
[04:01] <posingaspopular> w00t, i switched the mouse from one USB port to another and now it's all running smoothly
[04:01] <biovore> to unstable..
[04:01] <posingaspopular> Jucato: mad hack ^^
[04:01] <funcrush> my system takes too much times for loading applicataion even Konsole window, how I can correct this problem?
[04:01] <biovore> whats your system?
[04:01] <funcrush> kubuntu 7.04
[04:02] <biovore> what hardware is your computer?
[04:02] <funcrush> I just finish insatlling and updating
[04:02] <GS3User007> funcrush: hardware specs
[04:02] <funcrush> you mean spec?
[04:02] <GS3User007> funcrush: memory, cpu, etc
[04:02] <funcrush> cpu : 2.8 GHz, ram : 1 GMB  graphic card : geforce 5500
[04:03] <biovore> yeah that shouldn't be running slow..
[04:03] <funcrush> yup but too slow for loading
[04:03] <biovore> amd64?
[04:03] <funcrush> this problem is appeared after updating
[04:03] <funcrush> nope
[04:04] <biovore> updating to what? gusty?
[04:04] <funcrush> no
[04:04] <biovore> just security updates?
[04:04] <kazuma_> how can i join another channel?
[04:04] <funcrush> maybe, sorry i don't know exactly
[04:04] <biovore> try /join channelname
[04:04] <biovore> example /join #ubuntu
[04:05] <kazuma_> thanks
[04:05] <GS3User007> how do i turn up my refresh rate? xorg.conf has the correct range specificied, but system settigns -> monitor and display only shows 60Hz
[04:05] <funcrush> try restart your x-server
[04:05] <funcrush> press ctrl+alt+BACKSPACE
[04:05] <biovore> read /var/log/xorg.conf  maybe you have to specifiy mode lines to get that to work..
[04:06] <biovore> ^ very pain in the but process
[04:06] <biovore> yeah.. after you change xorg.conf you need to restart X for it to take effect.
[04:06] <GS3User007> i didn't change it, i just peeked at it
[04:07] <biovore> make the vrefresh just 1 number 75 for instance..
[04:07] <funcrush> hm...about 10 seconds are takes for loading Konsole :(
[04:08] <apokay> Hello @ all :)    Im a new kubuntu user :P
[04:08] <funcrush> the others are not, but loading application is slow only
[04:08] <biovore> funcrush: try top to check CPU/Memory usage (top in a konsole)
[04:08] <funcrush> hello
[04:09] <funcrush> well, How i can? i'm newbe too
[04:10] <funcrush> well some pakages are broken like ttf-opensymbol and python-uno, is it related?
[04:12] <Lam_> how do i center the login details box in the login manager?  i turned off the users list and now it looks weird because the users list is technically not there, but the layout has it displayed as if it was there so there's this huge transparent whitespace to the left of the login details box where the users list was
[04:14] <nixternal> quit talking about me Jucato and posingaspopular
[04:21] <numan> anybody plz help
[04:21] <numan> how to load adept manager as root in butsy gibon?
[04:22] <funcrush> adept-manager will ask you for password of root
[04:23] <numan> no it didnot ask me for password
[04:23] <numan> it pops up a message that i cannot apply changes through this because i have to be root or run sudo programs
[04:24] <funcrush> well
[04:24] <funcrush> you can run in konsole, too
[04:24] <funcrush> sudo apt-get updagte
[04:24] <funcrush> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:25] <funcrush> update and upgrade
[04:28] <GS3User007_> what do i need to do to allow kubuntu to read/write ntfs drives?
[04:28] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[04:29] <sub[t]rnl> or mount them by cli
[04:29] <GS3User007_> thanks
[04:30] <numan> funcrush! plz help me to load adept manager user interface as root
[04:31] <numan> hey!
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> numan: try kdesu adept_manager
[04:31] <sub[t]rnl> from konsole
[04:31] <numan> sub[t]rnl: thanks
[04:34] <numan> sub[t]rnl: it loaded the adept manager but these error also come up in konsole -->floof channel for details
[04:35] <sub[t]rnl> better get to floofing then
[04:36] <numan> ok
[04:37] <Jucato> posingaspopular: whoa? it was all becuse of a mouse? O.o
[04:37] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to get to floofing?
[04:38] <gongoputch> so, if I wanted to install, and I downloaded a CD and booted and am staring at (initramfs) .... what would I do next?
[04:40] <posingaspopular> yea dude, wth. I had all these mad hackers fooled and it was just a stupid usb port. oh well. score one for kubuntu not being brokw
[04:40] <GS3User007_> how do i mount an ntfs drive?
[04:40] <posingaspopular> !ntfs
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:41] <posingaspopular> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:43] <numan> !flood
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <funcrush> I got error message in "sudo apt-get -f install"     http://cfs2.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzMi50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDUwMDAwMDAwMDE3LnBuZw==
[04:45] <funcrush> How I can fix it?
[04:45] <numan> sub[t]rnl: here is the error log-->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42652/
[04:47] <sub[t]rnl> numan: does the adept_manager start?
[04:48] <hagabaka> hmm, looks like removing java5, tetex and associated packages will make enough room for gusty, sweet :)
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> numan: I'm not seeing anything in your pastebin thats going to stop adept_manager from running.  so, ignore those errors your seeing in the konsole when running it.  Its just a uid and xorg complaining about an input device
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> or fix em
[04:51] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[04:52] <GS3User007_> thoughts: pidgin or kopete?
[04:52] <Tm_T> Kopete
[04:53] <GS3User007_> and why
[04:53] <Jucato> whatever works for you
[04:53] <GS3User007_> i'm new to linux, so i'm asking for opinions...
[04:54] <Jucato> best way to find out is to start using what's there (Kopete), and then test the other one (Pidgin). Although Kopete supports webcams and Pidgin doesn't
[04:55] <smorg> did they change the name of libxine-extracodecs?
[04:55] <Jucato> smorg: libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:55] <Jucato> if you want, you can just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:56] <smorg> ah that includes mpg/wmv/mp3 etc
[04:56] <Jucato> except wmv/wmva
[04:56] <Jucato> wma*
[04:56] <Jucato> and dvdcss
[04:57] <Merritt> Is there a way to get a list of channels, so you can find out where you want to go on IRC?
[04:57] <smorg> cool thx
[04:57] <Dr_willis> darn wife. Wont leave me alone.. Wanting me to find her some photo software that can put a 'picture' in the background (slightly faded), and then a 2nd picture in the foreground  Like the Photo galleries do.d
[04:57] <Jucato> Merritt: Window -> Channel List for ______ (be careful, you will lag a bi t)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Anyone seen such a tool? windows/linux/ as idiot proof as possible :)
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[04:58] <Merritt> jucato: Thank you
[04:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> like...  an inset photo like a photo studio would do?
[05:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> It's kind of quiet here.
[05:04] <GS3User007_> kinda nice, actually
[05:04] <gundam_rx78nt1> I know.
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> its a good sign
[05:05]  * Daisuke_Laptop listens to the crickets
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[05:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> that linux is getting recognized as the favorite OS of the world?
[05:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> yep, that is a good sign, actually.
[05:06] <sub[t]rnl> no, that the people using kubuntu arn't having any problems :D
[05:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> true, or they are celebrating that the Red Sox won the Series.
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> the matchup I'm pumped to see happens sunday
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> which one?
[05:08] <sub[t]rnl> colts vs. patriots
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Don't say the Broncos... please don't say them.
[05:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Oh yea. go patriots.
[05:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> You know, I think that Kubuntu should hold a desktop theme competition like gentoo did on their website.
[05:09] <aaron_> is there a client for linux to connect to windows remote desktop?
[05:09] <L_Ron_Hubbard> gundam_rx78nt1: you should be glad i'm a forgiving person :)
[05:10] <kudar> wow my wireless is slow. im about to FLIP
[05:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> It would be nice to see what the imagination of the people that use Kubuntu can come up with.
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> colts or bust :)
[05:10] <gundam_rx78nt1> L_Ron_Hubbard, why is that?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> because he'll sic his body thetans on you
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, forgot to switch nicks
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> colts :D
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> aaron_:you can use rdesktop, or if your just wanting to have windows access your linux shares, use samba
[05:11] <aaron_> I want full blown
[05:11] <aaron_> so rdesktop
[05:11] <aaron_> thanks
[05:11] <sub[t]rnl> np
[05:11] <aaron_> will I find that in adept
[05:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> rdesktop? it's compatible with windows' remote desktop support?
[05:12] <sub[t]rnl> yewp
[05:12] <Daisuke_Ido> my experience is probably not typical, but i found it easier to install SFU on the windows side and connect to the existing NFS shares from windows...
[05:13] <kudar> will someone hack my box and make my wireless faster. im about to /myself
[05:13] <kudar> you can have root
[05:13] <kudar> what do i care
[05:14] <sub[t]rnl> heh, might be careful who you trust with your box kudar
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> but.. 74.132.195.249 is that you?
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> iwconfig
[05:15] <sub[t]rnl> miss
[05:20] <hellhound> for some reason my kde autostart directory does not seem to work... i have two bash scripts in there and it will not run either one of them.  I have also tried to use links but to no avail
[05:20] <sub[t]rnl> chmod +x bashscript
[05:21] <supert0nes> anyone know when we will see rc1?
[05:21] <hellhound> sub[t]rnl: they are already set as executable
[05:21] <Jucato> hellhound: see? you get the same answer in 2 places :)
[05:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> sub[t]rnl, what command to I start rdesktop... I am confused by the man page.
[05:23] <hellhound> Jucato: yes but i did already check that
[05:23] <hellhound> Jucato: in fact i can go to my autostart directory and double click them and they will start
[05:23] <Jucato> hm... strange indeed...
[05:24] <sub[t]rnl> gundam_rx78nt1: not sure, never used rdesktop
[05:24] <hellhound> Jucato: is there a way to make sure that kde knows to check this directory?
[05:24] <numan> sub[t]rnl: yes thanks for  your help i was busy installing these updates
[05:24] <Jucato> it's checked automatically
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> gundam_rx78nt1: http://www.venturecake.com/10-minutes-to-run-every-windows-app-seamlessly-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[05:25] <sub[t]rnl> :D
[05:25] <Jucato> hellhound: in what directory exactly did you put them?
[05:25] <hellhound> Jucato: that is what i thought... but i can't think of anything else
[05:26] <hellhound> jucato: ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:26] <Jucato> hm... weird...
[05:26]  * Jucato can't think of any reason why it wouldn't start
[05:26] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to make firefox the default browser for every command even in konversation for opening links?
[05:26] <sub[t]rnl> don't use konv
[05:26] <hellhound> Jucato: is there a log i check?
[05:27] <Jucato> not sure
[05:27] <sub[t]rnl> sure its in the configure konversation tab though
[05:27] <Jucato> numan: konversation would use whatever default browser KDE is set to use. in System Settings -> Default Applications
[05:27] <lumpycow> why does Kubuntu 7.10 give me screwed up menu names like in this screenshot http://dominomf.com/smcfiles/index.php?mode=upload&rec=8952&secret=344472.29605405
[05:30] <numan> sub[t]rnl: how to open system settings?
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> start -> system settings
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> ?
[05:31] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> pfheh
[05:31] <Jucato> we have a start? O.o
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> did you hear that question?
[05:31] <sub[t]rnl> :P was trying to make it reeal simple
[05:32] <kudar> sub[t]rnl: you want to see my iwconfig?
[05:32] <Jucato> I already answered his other question :)
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> i answered his question before he even asked it
[05:32] <sub[t]rnl> now that would be cool
[05:33] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[05:33] <numan> sub[t]rnl: i cant find system settings in k  menu
[05:33] <kudar> numan: are you kidding
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> numan: run systemsettings in a konsole
[05:34] <numan> yes really
[05:34] <kudar> numan: you installed kubuntu?
[05:34] <numan> kuldar: yes
[05:34] <kudar> ok why you gotta call me kuldar
[05:34] <numan> kudar: sorry
[05:34] <sub[t]rnl> kuldar: what driver are you using for your card?
[05:35]  * sub[t]rnl titters
[05:36] <kudar> sub: what is the easiest way to see...
[05:36] <kudar> lspci shows the exact card that i have
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> hrmn
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, show me that
[05:36] <sub[t]rnl> you might want to install ndiswrapper
[05:37] <kudar> sub: please no
[05:37] <sub[t]rnl> bah
[05:37] <kudar> sub: i heard ndiswrapper turned kubuntu into windows
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> it just used window drivers that weren't available
[05:38] <sub[t]rnl> in linux
[05:38] <kudar> well
[05:38] <kudar> gutzy has the drivers
[05:38] <kudar> thats the thing
[05:39] <numan> sub[t]rnl: this time i also get this error log when launching system settings in konsole-->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42659/
[05:39] <kudar> in nvidia-drivers
[05:39] <the-erm> Is there a repository for wine-doors?  the .deb on the site isn't quite right ....
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> the-erm: should be in the repo's already
[05:39] <the-erm> I guess I should mention I'm running gusty
[05:39] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:39] <the-erm> no wine doors.
[05:39] <kudar> sub: here is lspci
[05:39] <kudar> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[05:39] <the-erm> and I did an apt-get install wine-doors :)
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> say i'm using grep to grab all the lines matching a url pattern in a set of files.  that's not all the data on those lines though.  how would i strip all data from the line except the url?
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> wine-doors?
[05:40] <the-erm> It's a helper application for wine.  Helps you install all the stuff.  Kinda like apt for wine.
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> never heard of it, no idea :)
[05:41] <the-erm> I guess should check in their channel.
[05:41] <the-erm> Wow that's a full place.
[05:42] <supert0nes> so does anyone know when kde4 rc1 is coming out like if it is today?
[05:43] <the-erm> No clue.
[05:44] <supert0nes> ahh well im  kindof excited considering the betas are not very functional
[05:44] <julius> adpet just asked me to upgrade to gutsy from gutsy, will this create a rip in the space time continum?
[05:44] <Angelus> the-erm: here http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/wine-doors_0.1.1-1_all.deb
[05:44] <Angelus> the-erm: download that and install it :)
[05:45] <Jucato> supert0nes: most probably not. it was just tagged recently, so it will take a few more days/weeks before a release is announced
[05:45] <Jucato> 1 week or so
[05:45] <supert0nes> ahh alright
[05:46] <supert0nes> the tarballs were released today
[05:46] <supert0nes> and i didnt know what kindof turnaround that gets
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> mornin Jucato
[05:47] <Jucato> moin Daisuke_Ido
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> you good with pipe manipulation?
[05:48] <sub[t]rnl> wheres NickPresta when we need him
[05:49] <b0nn> hi all, I tried to install dri desktop on my gutsy machine, and it failed (x no longer starts), now, all I want to do is revert back to the setting i had before, but cant
[05:49] <b0nn> any place to start?
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> look in /etc/X11/ for a possible backup of the xorg.conf that was edited
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> or run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a new one
[05:50] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: I suck at bash :)
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> :(
[05:51] <the-erm> Angelus: that one doesn't like gusty.
[05:51] <Angelus> why?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i just need to extract a string with a set beginning and end from a longer string
[05:51] <numan> sub[t]rnl: did you saw that?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm thinking sed?
[05:58] <b0nn> I did the latter and still no joy
[05:58] <b0nn> how do I delete all xorg and reinstall it?
[06:00] <hellhound> Jucato: ok i just tried to add kcalc to the AUtostart as a test.  I tried a link, bashscript and also even tried to copy the program there and for some reason it did not start.
[06:00] <hellhound> Jucato:
[06:01] <Jucato> hellhound: ok extremely weird...
[06:01]  * Jucato has actually no idea now
[06:02] <hellhound> Jucato: i wonder if it is linked to kdesktop?  i have disabled this inorder to use compiz-fusion with differant wallpapers for each side of the cube
[06:02] <Jucato> O.o
[06:02] <Jucato> most probably yes
[06:02] <hellhound> do you know where kdesktop goes?
[06:02] <Jucato> how did you disable it?
[06:03] <hellhound> Jucato: i removed it from a directory and put it in my home folder... but i cannot remember what folder it was originally in
[06:03] <zhaowolong> 好难看的kde
[06:04] <zhaowolong> 还不如gnome好看呢
[06:04] <Jucato> hellhound: /usr/bin ?
[06:04] <Tm_T> zhaowolong: can we get same in english?
[06:04] <hellhound> so it was in some kde folder
[06:04] <hellhound> Jucato: no it was in some kde folder
[06:04] <Jucato> hellhound: I'm not sure, because I don't know what file you removed
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> !cn | zhaowolong
[06:06] <ubotu> zhaowolong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:12] <GS3User007_> how do i make it so a program starts everytime the computer does? like say, firefox?
[06:12] <sub[t]rnl> !autostart
[06:12] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:12] <Jucato> GS3User007_: leave it open when you logout, it will restart when you log back in
[06:19] <dangaio> anybody from Puerto Rico here?
[06:20] <dangaio> I was wondering how many users in PR uses kubuntu?
[06:27] <sunny_> Hi, why startx my X-windows need to use sudo startx only?
[06:27] <sunny_> anyone can help me
[06:28] <b1n42y> wot r u trying to do ?
[06:29] <sunny_> Does anybody there, On one reponse me?
[06:29] <b1n42y> yes i said what are you trying to do ?
[06:31] <Angelus> why when i try to install nvidia-settings it remove nvidia-glx-new?
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because nvidia-settings isn't used by nvidia-glx-new
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> night!
[06:32] <Angelus> O_o
[06:32] <Angelus> so i can't have nvidia-settings on kubuntu?
[06:32] <sub[t]rnl> looks like it uses nvidia-glx-legacy, and conflicts with nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx
[06:33] <Angelus> that sucks :S
[06:34] <Jucato> um...
[06:34] <b1n42y> nvidia-settings = config for nvidia cards ? tv etc ?
[06:34] <Jucato> nvidia-glx and -new come with their own version of nvidia-settings
[06:34] <b1n42y> nice
[06:34] <sub[t]rnl> well, there you have it
[06:34] <Jucato> that's why it conflicts with the older version of nvidia-settings that is packaged
[06:35] <supert0nes> why are hd tuner cards not well supported at all?
[06:35] <sub[t]rnl> +1 jucato
[06:35] <sunny_> yes have try, but on cann't fix
[06:35] <sunny_> Hi, why startx my X-windows need to use sudo startx only?
[06:36] <Angelus> Jucato: i have nvidia-glx-new but i don't have nvidia-settings
[06:36] <Jucato> Angelus: have you tried typing in Konsole "nvidia-settings"?
[06:36] <b1n42y> y are u using repository drivers..they may not be the most recent ?
[06:36] <Angelus> hmm yes Jucato i have it in Konsole, but not in the k menu
[06:36] <b1n42y> goto nvidia
[06:36] <Jucato> Angelus: no problem then. it just doesn't have a menu entry
[06:37] <sunny_> b1n42y, are you talk to me?
[06:37] <b1n42y> tney
[06:37] <b1n42y> no
[06:37] <sunny_> sorry
[06:37] <b1n42y> no probs
[06:37] <sunny_> Do you you what is refcount
[06:37] <b1n42y> i was trying to get you to tell me what you where trying to do  but
[06:37] <Jucato> b1n42y: because the repository drivers are already setup to work on Kubuntu and can be easily installed, updated, or removed.
[06:38] <b1n42y> ya i would understand that if you wer using ubuntu ..coz u cant shut down x  bug i think but kubuntu is easy
[06:38] <b1n42y> just did it myself
[06:38] <b1n42y> am newb aswell
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> can't shut down huh?
[06:39] <b1n42y> nope
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[06:39] <b1n42y> init 3 etc doesnt work
[06:39] <Jucato> init 3 isn't shutdown though
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> :P
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> i'm fairly sure that if you shutdown -h now
[06:39] <b1n42y> so i went kubuntu coz therz an option to start in console and since i just swicthed to linux i dont minde kde envir.
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> ubuntu will shutdown
[06:39] <Jucato> and Ubuntu uses a different init system. I'm not sure how it affects the init commands
[06:40] <b1n42y> mmm i had problems shutting it and read thru alot of cr*p
[06:41] <b1n42y> on how to do it...but i never came here so you're prob right
[06:41] <b1n42y> so shutdown -h in terminal or one of the ttys ?
[06:42] <sunny_> hey,hey, No one known about "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1 fixing
[06:42] <sunny_> ????
[06:42] <sunny_> Help
[06:42] <sunny_> help
[06:43] <b1n42y> newb here..i help what i can ;)
[06:43] <b1n42y> brb
[06:43] <Lam_> how do i center the login details box in the login manager?  i turned off the users list and now it looks weird because the users list is technically not there, but the layout has it displayed as if it was there so there's this huge transparent whitespace to the left of the login details box where the users list was
[06:45] <dangaio> Lam_, you need to edit the /usr/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu/kubuntu.xml file
[06:46] <Lam_> ah. i'll take a look at that. thanks
[06:48] <Lam_> dangaio: /usr/apps doesn't exist. i found it under /usr/share though
[06:50] <dangaio> Lam_, sorry, I haven't edited that file in so long, I forgot it's under share.
[06:55] <b1n42y> anyway to search through chat ?
[06:56] <b1n42y> in koepete ?
[06:56] <b1n42y> irc ?
[06:58] <Tm_T> b1n42y: Kopete has history plugin
[06:58] <b1n42y> ty does that allow for irc search
[06:59] <b1n42y> anyways ill look into it TY
[07:00] <Lam_> how do i change the kdm theme?
[07:00] <Lam_> i thought i knew how to but kubuntu has it set up differently or something
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[07:00] <sub[t]rnl> then look in kcontrol
[07:01] <Lam_> ah that would have helped. thanks
[07:01] <Lam_> why wasn't it installed by default?
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> guess they didn't feel it important enough to include
[07:01] <b1n42y> 700 mb cds i assume
[07:01] <Lam_> it's only 50kb o_O
[07:01] <b1n42y> adds up
[07:01] <b1n42y> ;p
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> and its only one command line away
[07:01] <Lam_> lol alright. that helped, so thanks
[07:03] <b1n42y> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuExtras
[07:03] <b1n42y> thats y i said wot i said
[07:03] <Jucato> Lam_: kdmtheme isn't located in the main repository. it's in universe. we can only include packages from main in the CD
[07:03] <Lam_> ah ok. that's a much more valid reason. thanks
[07:20] <ScorpKing> what log is the messages stored in that's displayed during startup?
[07:20] <sunny_> my system hang on at "Running local boot script (/etc/rc.local) [Ok]"
[07:21] <sunny_> what can I do?
[07:21] <Jucato> ScorpKing: boot or dmesg. not sure which of the two
[07:21] <ScorpKing> ok will check. ty
[07:23] <MilesG> does /etc/motd get reset every time the computer restarts?
[07:26] <ScorpKing> Jucato: none of those. i grepped the /var/log/ dir but none of the boot messages shows up. maybe it's disabled.
[07:27] <Jucato> hm.. I think it's disabled if "quiet" is enabled in the grub entry for that kernel
[07:28] <ScorpKing> hmm.. funny, coz then messages from recovery mode should be logged and they're not.
[07:29] <Jucato> hm... not really sure
[07:31] <b0nn> anyone played with pulseaudio? Im trying to workout how to connect to a pulseaudio server and 'listen' to theoutput
[07:37] <baudthief> omg. Portal is running better on my fesity/wine install than on my winXP install!
[07:38] <baudthief> must... resist... urge to play more
[07:40] <krekon> could I, in any way, to connect a laptop on a desktop that has connection on the internet and the laptop has connection to the internet through this desktop?
[07:41] <kaminix> I can't run any windows programs through Wine. Tried Internet Explorer 6 and something else, but it said I didn't have a DOS dir or something.
[07:41] <ackbahr> kaminix: Maybe IE is not the best choice to try Wine?
[07:42] <ScorpKing> krekon: yes
[07:42] <kaminix> krekon: Yes, should be possible, think it's called a gateway. Don't know how do do it though. ^^
[07:42] <krekon> ScorpKing you know how?
[07:42] <kaminix> ackbahr: I tried some other smaller program too, don't remember which, and I think it said the same thinc.
[07:43] <ackbahr> kaminix: Smaller in the sense of "more stand-alone"?
[07:43] <ScorpKing> krekon: you have to set the gateway to the ip of the box with the internet.
[07:44] <kaminix> ackbahr: Yeah, I think so. Besides, both tho IE and other program were installers. :s
[07:44] <krekon> you mean that I have to change the laptop IP to that of the desktop on the internet?
[07:44] <ackbahr> kaminix: Yep, I never had any luck with "installed" programs....
[07:44] <ScorpKing> krekon: no.
[07:45] <kaminix> ackbahr: But these were installers, meaning it should've atleast shown me the setup window, no?
[07:45] <krekon> dhcp holds ip adress though
[07:45] <ScorpKing> ok. one sec..
[07:45] <ackbahr> kaminix: Ah well yes, if the *program* doesn't start up, at least its *installer* should!
[07:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: the desktop has internet right?
[07:46] <krekon> ScorpKing yes
[07:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: do you know how to setup eyh0 manually on the laptop?
[07:47] <ScorpKing> eth)*
[07:47] <ScorpKing> bah..
[07:47] <krekon> ScorpKing I have never tried it
[07:47] <krekon> ScorpKing is it difficult?
[07:47] <ScorpKing> no
[07:48] <ScorpKing> on the laptop - kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin the file for me.
[07:50] <krekon> ScorpKing "auto lo" and
[07:50] <ScorpKing> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:50] <kaminix> ackbahr: Was that sarcastic? :p As far as my experience go, installers usually work with wine, with them all being the same and stuff. ^^
[07:50] <krekon> ScorpKing "iface lo inet loopback"
[07:50] <ScorpKing> put the whole file there ^^
[07:50] <ScorpKing> on patebin
[07:50] <ScorpKing> s*
[07:50] <krekon> aaa
[07:51] <krekon> is this a file?
[07:51] <krekon> with locate i fcould find it
[07:51] <ackbahr> kaminix: Not sarcastic at all, I totally agree with you; the installer should at least start up!
[07:51] <ScorpKing> krekon: open /etc/network/interfaces and patebin it
[07:52] <ackbahr> Well, anyway gotta go (baby woke up and needs a hug).... So long!
[07:52] <kaminix> ackbahr: Ah, well that's both comforting and uncomforting... in a way. :p Nice to see I'm not wrong, bad to see Wine's not working properly.
[07:52] <ScorpKing> !paste | krekon.
[07:52] <ubotu> krekon.: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:52] <ScorpKing> krekon: go to that website
[07:55] <krekon> ScorpKing I paste it there
[07:56] <ScorpKing> krekon: copy and paste the url here so i can see it
[07:56] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42664/
[07:56] <ScorpKing> checking..
[07:58] <Demo1> I have mounted three hard disks into a HP Tower server, but Ubuntu cant find them. I have tried to list them with the command "lshw -C disk", but only the CD-ROM is listed. Do anybody have some debugging tips?
[07:58] <ScorpKing> krekon: eth0 is missing. is that the whole file?
[07:59] <krekon> yes
[07:59] <ScorpKing> what does ifconfig show?
[08:00] <krekon> ScorpKing through kinfocenter in network interfaces i can see eth0
[08:00] <ScorpKing> is there an option to configure it mannually?
[08:01] <krekon> through knetwork manager?
[08:01] <ScorpKing> krekon: run knetworkmanager
[08:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:01] <krekon> ok
[08:01] <krekon> right klik and configure?
[08:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:02] <krekon> ok
[08:03] <krekon> ScorpKing what I have to do now?
[08:03] <ScorpKing> click on eth0 and then Configure
[08:04] <krekon> ok next?
[08:04] <ScorpKing> select Manual and give it an ip in the same range as the one that the desktop box has
[08:04] <krekon> for e.g.
[08:05] <Demo1> I've inserted a new hard disk into my server, but Ubuntu cannot find it. What should I do?
[08:05] <ScorpKing> what is the ip on the desktop box?
[08:05] <krekon> i chang the last number?
[08:05] <ScorpKing> yes
[08:05] <krekon> ok wait
[08:05] <ScorpKing> make netmask 255.255.255.0
[08:06] <ScorpKing> then click on advanced settings and make the gateway the same as the ip on the desktop box
[08:08] <ScorpKing> make broadcast the same as the ip but the last one must be .255
[08:09] <krekon> ScorpKing I did it but it says wring gateway
[08:09] <ScorpKing> Demo1: don't go away
[08:09] <krekon> yes
[08:09] <krekon> but nothing
[08:10] <ScorpKing> krekon: on my box it always does that. not sure why. press OK and open /etc/network/interfaces again. did anything change?
[08:11] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep hd or ls /dev/ | grep sd and see what shows up.
[08:11] <krekon> ScorpKing I have to do something similar to the desktop
[08:12] <ScorpKing> krekon: no.
[08:12] <krekon> ?
[08:12] <ScorpKing> leave the desktop as it is
[08:12] <krekon> about the broadcast I mean
[08:12] <ScorpKing> no. if it's working leave it
[08:13] <krekon> ok
[08:13] <krekon> thanks anyway
[08:13] <grainwave> nickserv HELP
[08:13] <ScorpKing> krekon: what does /etc/network/interfaces have in it now?
[08:13] <Demo1> ScorpKin: "ls /dev/ | grep hd" did not return anything, but "ls /dev/ | grep sd" returned "ptysd" and "ttysd"
[08:14] <krekon> ScorpKing the same
[08:15] <ScorpKing> krekon: ok. gimme a sec and i'll pastebin the settings for you.
[08:15] <krekon> ScorpKing no
[08:15] <krekon> wait
[08:15] <ScorpKing> hm..?
[08:15] <krekon> I had to change the default gateway from routes too
[08:15] <ScorpKing> o ok.
[08:16] <Demo1> ScorpKing: I have four hard disk. The first is "/dev/cciss/codo", but I cannot find the three others.
[08:16] <krekon> pastebin it comings
[08:18] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep sc maybe?
[08:19] <Demo1> ScorpKing: "ptysc", "scd0" and "ttysc" is returned
[08:20] <ScorpKing> Demo1: run sudo lshw | less and look for "logical name: /dev/?" under disk
[08:20] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42667/
[08:22] <ScorpKing> krekon: that ip does not seem right. run ifconfig eth0 on the desktop box
[08:23] <fernando__> how can i konqueror with ssh???
[08:24] <fernando__> anyone here :-)
[08:24] <sub[t]rnl> how d
[08:24] <ScorpKing> no :P
[08:24] <Demo1> ScorpKing: cannot find disk, but disc under the *-cdrom tab.
[08:24] <Jucato> fernando__: just use fish:/ or sftp:/ in Konqueror
[08:24] <fernando__> thanks.. :-
[08:25] <fernando__> Jucato.. thanks :-)
[08:25] <krekon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42668/
[08:25] <juan> k
[08:26] <juan> huoh
[08:26] <ScorpKing> krekon: eth0 is down. how do you connect to the internet on that box?
[08:27] <krekon> through usb
[08:27] <ScorpKing> it will have ppp0 then. ugh
[08:27] <ScorpKing> one sec..
[08:30] <fernando__> Jucato, where I can find instruction to install nvidia drivers for the last kubuntu 7.10??
[08:30] <Jucato> !nvidia | fernando__
[08:30] <ubotu> fernando__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:30] <fernando__> !nvidia
[08:30] <ScorpKing> krekon: make /etc/network/interfaces on the laptop like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42669/
[08:32] <fernando__> Jucato, before I continues with the ndivia drivers... I want to install the 3D desktop of kubuntu.. I did it some time ago, but probably everythings have change... can you give me some tips???
[08:32] <ScorpKing> krekon: and on the desktop - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42670/
[08:33] <Jucato> fernando__: sorry, don't know anything about compiz
[08:33] <fernando__> jucato: ok..thanks anyway
[08:34] <ScorpKing> Demo1: look in /var/log/messages and see if there is anything about the disks. check in kinfocenter as well.
[08:34] <fernando__> Is Beryl the best 3D desktop for kubuntu??
[08:35] <krekon> ScorpKing ok done
[08:35] <krekon> what is next?
[08:36] <ScorpKing> do you have a hub/router or are you going to connect the two machines directly?
[08:36] <krekon> directly
[08:36] <ScorpKing> you have a crossover cable?
[08:36] <krekon> yes
[08:37] <krekon> it is not the same ethernet cable?
[08:37] <ScorpKing> the wires are connected differently
[08:37] <krekon> what do you mean?
[08:38] <Demo1> ScorpKing: There is a message that is listed many times: "Additional sense: Medium not present" \ "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0" \ "sr 0:0:0:0: Device not ready: <6>: Current: sense key: Not Ready"
[08:38] <ScorpKing> on the one side the orange and green pairs are swapped for crossover
[08:39] <fernando__> any software like winamp for linux?? which one search for some internet radios to play???
[08:40] <Jucato> fernando__: have you tried Amarok?
[08:40] <ScorpKing> krekon: anyway, plug the cable in and run sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[08:40] <ScorpKing> fernando__: xmms
[08:40] <krekon> ScorpKing on laptop
[08:41] <ScorpKing> both
[08:41] <ScorpKing> Demo1: ls /dev/ | grep sr - anything?
[08:41] <tapas> in feisty removable usb drives that were attached to the computer upon logging into kde were automatically mounted
[08:42] <tapas> since the update to gutsy this doesn't happen no more
[08:42] <tapas> how can i fix this?
[08:43] <fernando__> ScropKing: but xmms doesn't have the feature for search internet radios... right??
[08:43] <krekon> ScorpKing:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42671/
[08:44] <krekon> for desktop
[08:44] <Demo1> ScorpKing: returns "sr0"
[08:44] <tapas> there's a disk and file system dialog in the system settings -> advanced
[08:44] <tapas> but it seems to be for fstab only
[08:45] <tapas> using direct names in media:/ e.g. media:/42G\ Media
[08:45] <tapas> doesn't work either
[08:45] <tapas> grmbl
[08:45] <tapas> well, off to work.. laters
[08:46] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:46] <ScorpKing> krekon: ifconfig eth0 on the desktop. is it up?
[08:47] <fernando__> !beryl
[08:47] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[08:48] <fernando__> !compiz
[08:48] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:48] <ScorpKing> Demo1: does the disks show in the BIOS? i'm out of ideas for now. ask in ##linux and #ubuntu as well.
[08:50] <fernando__> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <ScorpKing> krekon: any news?
[08:53] <krekon> ScorpKing:  wait a min
[08:53] <ScorpKing> hehe. ok
[08:54] <krekon> ScorpKing I just installed knetmanager on desktop
[08:55] <krekon> ScorpKing and it says that net interface eth0 is active
[08:55] <ScorpKing> good
[08:55] <ScorpKing> on both?
[08:55] <krekon> yes
[08:55] <ScorpKing> ping google.com
[08:56] <krekon> from laptop nothing
[08:57] <ScorpKing> ping the desktop (192.168.1.1) from the laptop
[08:57] <jbbarnes> Hi. I'm told runlevels are different on Debin-based systems. How can I tell what runlevel I'm at?
[08:57] <ScorpKing> runlevel
[08:57] <krekon> "network is unreachable"
[08:57] <fernando__> !compiz
[08:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:58] <jbbarnes> Thanks. In SuSE and RH systems, you can edit initab to set your default runlevel. How can you do that in Kubuntu?
[08:58] <ScorpKing> krekon: is the wires on that cable the same on both sides?
[08:59] <krekon> wait
[08:59] <krekon> ScorpKing yes it is
[09:01] <jbbarnes> I know that the whole initab thing is different on systems using upstart, but am not sure how to change the default level.
[09:02] <ScorpKing> i think that's the problem. what are the order of the colors when the flat side of the connector face you? w/o o g/w b b/w g br/w br ??
[09:03] <Demo1> ScorpKing: I'm in the BIOS. I'm not really sure what I'm looking for, but the HP Smart Array Controller E200i shows in the BIOS
[09:06] <smorg> hi
[09:06] <smorg> i'm having trouble compiling the vidalia gui controler for the Tor network client...
[09:06] <smorg> anyone try this under kubuntu?
[09:07] <ScorpKing> Demo1: i've never worked with a setup like that so i'm not sure what's it supposed to show.
[09:07] <smorg> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:08] <ScorpKing> Demo1: maybe it's picked up as a raid disk. try sudo cfdisk /dev/sr0 or any of the others that it might be.
[09:09] <ScorpKing> smorg: you have no compiler installed
[09:09] <ScorpKing> !build
[09:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:09] <ScorpKing> !find build-essential
[09:09] <ubotu> Found: build-essential
[09:10] <ScorpKing> smorg: install build-essential
[09:10] <fernando__> I have compiz running but I can found how to define shortcuts.. anyone know if is that possible??
[09:10] <kazuma_> hi all how do i use compiz fusion on kde?
[09:10] <smorg> ah thx, I thought kubuntu came with gcc preinstalled... and it already did lots of logging.
[09:10] <kazuma_> i have gutsy gibbon runing
[09:11] <ScorpKing> !compiz
[09:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:11] <kazuma_> thanks
[09:11] <ScorpKing> np
[09:14] <kazuma_> that man is for gutsy right?
[09:16] <ScorpKing> yes
[09:18] <Demo1> ScorpKing: it returns fatal error
[09:18] <ScorpKing> Demo1: did you try any of the other ones it might be?
[09:21] <Demo1> ScorpKing: Yes, all the same. I did "cfdisk /dev/ccisss/c0d0" and I see the partitions Primary and Logical which are c0d0p1 and c0d0p5 respectivily.
[09:22] <ScorpKing> Demo1: are c0d0 the size it's supposed to be?
[09:23] <ubunturos> what resoultion does kdm depend on when starting the system?
[09:25] <Jucato> ubunturos: afaik the highest resolution in the default depth in xorg.conf
[09:25] <Demo1> ScorpKing: Yes, for the first disk. But the problem is that I cannot find the other disks
[09:26] <ScorpKing> that's odd..
[09:26] <ubunturos> Jucato: umm, when I say resolution, I'm referring to numbers 800 x 600, 1024 ...
[09:26] <Jucato> ubunturos: yes I know. why?
[09:26] <ubunturos> Jucato: default depth would refer to 24 dpi ?
[09:27] <Jucato>  <Jucato> ubunturos: afaik the highest resolution in the default depth in xorg.conf
[09:27] <lcx> ?
[09:27] <Jucato> I didn't say just the default depth did I?
[09:27] <lcx> ?
[09:27] <ScorpKing> Demo1: can you pastebin the output of lshw?
[09:27] <ubunturos> Jucato: I probably still don't get it. Could you make it simpler?
[09:27] <the-tomic> help please - where do i setup network workgroup to see other win xp computers/printers on my network
[09:28] <flaccid> !samba | the-tomic
[09:28] <ubotu> the-tomic: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:28] <the-tomic> thx
[09:28] <flaccid> np
[09:28] <Jucato> ubunturos: look at your xorg.conf. each Depth has a set of resolutions (Modes)
[09:28] <ubunturos> Jucato: ok, I'll do that
[09:29] <lcx> why can not i?
[09:29] <smorg> sweet got tor+vidalia+privoxy all goin :-)
[09:29] <lcx> the resulti as follows:
[09:29] <lcx> lcx@lcx-desktop:~$ samba
[09:29] <lcx> bash: samba：找不到命令
[09:32] <flaccid> result of what?
[09:32] <flaccid> samba is not a command
[09:33] <foxhound31> compiz fusion does it still have a bad effect on wine?
[09:33] <foxhound31> and if so how do i turn it off?
[09:34] <darklos> hello
[09:35] <ubunturos> !hi | darklos
[09:35] <ubotu> darklos: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:35] <Demo1> ScorpKing: sorry, what do you mean by pastebin?
[09:35] <ScorpKing> !paste
[09:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:36] <darklos> waw itś realy cool Kubuntu
[09:36] <ubunturos> darklos: :)
[09:37] <darklos> just change from linspire to kubuntu
[09:38] <babar> onjjour
[09:39] <babar> need help pour mettre en reseau un pc sous linux sur un reseau avec que des windaubes
[09:39] <darklos> how i use adept updater?
[09:39] <Demo1> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42672/
[09:44] <ubuntu> hi
[09:44] <ubuntu> is that polish channel???/
[09:45] <Tm_T> !pl | ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-pl
[09:45] <ubuntu> !pl | ubuntu
[09:45] <Tm_T> ubuntu: /j #ubuntu-pl
[09:49] <ScorpKing> Demo1: it looks like there is something on google. one sec..
[09:52] <ScorpKing> Demo1: search for - HP Smart Array Controller E200i ubuntu - on google. i'm a bit busy atm.
[10:02] <dangaio> Ok, I just upgraded a computer to 7.10, when I rebooted it, all I get is a black screen and not even pressing CTRL+ALT+F2 gives me a virtual term with a log in prompt.  Can someone help me?
[10:04] <kazuma_> help with compiz fusion
[10:04] <kazuma_> pls
[10:05] <Jucato> !compiz | kazuma_
[10:05] <ubotu> kazuma_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> kazuma_: also check the compiz fusion wiki
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> kazuma_: ... it answers the important question 'where is the cube!'
[10:33] <WaltzingAlong> dangaio: still there? still seeking help?
[10:34] <greencookie> Hey guys. How do I make nautilus default file manager in kubuntu?
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> wish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin) | greencookie you can follow these instructions but use nautilus in place of references to dolphin (as default) or konqueror (as default)
[10:35] <Jucato> !dolphin
[10:35] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[10:35] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: convenient factoid just for you :)
[10:35] <Jucato> so that I don't have to trigger you...
[10:36] <greencookie> ok WaltzingAlong thnx.
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> Jucato: sure that works for directories but what of the other items like media:/ and system:/ ? those too ?
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> ;d
[10:36] <greencookie> I think I'll leave it as it is:)
[10:36] <greencookie> I've never used KDE before.
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: welcome to KDE!
[10:37] <greencookie> So don't wanna "accidentally" mess things up.
[10:37] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: that should work fine too. inode/system_directory is dependent on inode/directory afaik
[10:37] <kaminix> How do I make KGet ask me where to save each file when using "Download with KGet" via the Konq menu?
[10:37] <greencookie> Well, I actually got forced into accepting KDE! Everyone kept saying GNOME is for beginners:) hehe.
[10:37] <Jucato> kaminix: that should be the default behavior. it will ask you where to download it.
[10:38] <Jucato> kaminix: but have you enabled KGet-Konqueror integration?
[10:38] <kaminix> Yeah, I suppose so. KGet is default dload managet.
[10:38] <kaminix> *manager
[10:38] <kaminix> I'm downloading via Krusader though, but it's in the Konq menu.
[10:39] <Jucato> ah... kget integration only works with konqueror. not sure if it does with krusader
[10:42] <kaminix> Jucato: But it's on the Konqueror menu. Now that I downloaded multiple files it asked me though.. :s
[10:45] <Tolsty_Kot> Hello! Who knows in wich file I can change a standard path to the directory /media? Now I have all mounted under /home/Oleksandr/media. I want to change this path for buttons "System Menu", wich occupated near K-menu buttons, left-down on the detskop. (I want to press button "Media" in System menu, and go to /home/Oleksandr/media).
[10:47] <greencookie> Quick question: How do I enable 3d mode on my KDE? Do I have to download some kind of software?
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: compiz?
[10:47] <Tm_T> greencookie: 3d mode?
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | greencookie
[10:47] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: trying to replace ubotu?
[10:47] <greencookie> Tm_T, When I try to play the chess game in 3d mode it says install python open gl or something and gtk
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> Tm_T: no
[10:48] <Tm_T> greencookie: well uhm, what chess game?
[10:48] <greencookie> '3D Chess Game' but there's nothing three dimensional about it:)
[10:48] <Tm_T> greencookie: and be more precise
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: you may mean direct rendering. which video card/chipset do you have? ati? nvidia? sis? intel?
[10:48] <greencookie> ATI:)
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> !ati | greencookie
[10:49] <greencookie> Sorry TM_T kinda new here
[10:49] <ubotu> greencookie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <Tm_T> greencookie: no problemo
[10:49] <greencookie> I downloaded the ATI driver from website and enabled them. Now I still dont have 3D:(
[10:49] <numan> i am having problem with ekiga phone with no sound input and output
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> numan: run through the config wizard. does sound work elsewhere?
[10:50] <greencookie> Can someone help me enable 3d?
[10:51] <Tolsty_Kot> Who knows in wich file I can change a standard path to the directory /media? Now I have all mounted under /home/Oleksandr/media. I want to change this path for buttons "System Menu", wich is near K-menu buttons, left-down on the detskop. (I want to press button "Media" in System menu, and go to /home/Oleksandr/media).
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | greencookie
[10:51] <ubotu> greencookie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> Tolsty_Kot: using dolphin or konqueror?
[10:52] <Tolsty_Kot> konqueror
[10:52] <Tolsty_Kot> WaltzingAlong:
[10:53] <Tolsty_Kot> Sorry, I think, my English is bad// :(
[10:53] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, Xorg.conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1501/
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> Tolsty_Kot: you could right mouse click on the media system item in konqueror, select properties, then URL,changing it to the path you wish. not sure how to get media:/ register as /home/Oleksandr/media though
[10:54] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, xorg.0.log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1502/
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: the driver in use is 'vesa'; it needs to be 'ati' for the open source driver for ati cards or 'fglrx' for the proprietary driver for ati cards
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: you followed the restricted manager to install the fglrx driver?
[10:56] <userah> hey! Can somebody tell me, where`s - /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall(slackware) in kubuntu? thanks
[10:56] <greencookie> I do know how to access the restricted manager window.
[10:56] <flaccid> userah, what firewall is it?
[10:56] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, when I try to enable the ATI accelerated card and reboot, my screen is blank:(
[10:57] <userah> flaccid: generated
[10:58] <flaccid> userah, there is a firewall called generated?
[10:58] <flaccid> um you want iptables?
[10:58] <userah> no I mean the firewall is generated from the web - flaccid
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: ok so make a copy of the log then to send when you set it back to vesa or check the log for the error, remember it for when you return here. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh        can reconfigure X for you  (ctrl+alt+f1 to access a tty)    when reconfiguring, 'vesa' should always work, but give 'ati' a try too (restricted manager will enable 'fglrx')
[10:58] <Tolsty_Kot> WaltzingAlong: thanks, I will try, but may I have root-mode of konqueror?
[10:59] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, I understood everything except making copy of my log. Which log are you talking about?
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: the log you sent to me of X /var/log/Xorg.0.log    so something like             cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/Xorg.0.log
[11:03] <greencookie> WaltzingAlong, How do I make my 'ati' my driver. Its currently 'vesa'. I tried 'flgrx' before didnt work. The way I did it was sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: same command just pick ati in the list instead of fglrx
[11:04] <greencookie> ok
[11:04] <greencookie> brb
[11:04] <greencookie> Shoot Ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work for me. :(
[11:04] <greencookie> Whats the command for running terminal?:)
[11:05] <WaltzingAlong> yeah usually that ctrl+alt+ f1 through f6
[11:05] <dangaio> greencookie, try ctrl+alt+f2
[11:05] <dangaio> If not reboot in recovery mode.
[11:06] <greencookie> I tried ctrl+alt+f1,2,3,4,5,6,7 doesnt work:)
[11:06] <greencookie> brb
[11:06] <bjwebb> hi
[11:06] <bjwebb> im using xine-plugin for firefox
[11:07] <bjwebb> 1) is there anyway i can change the settings (to get it to work nice with compiz)
[11:07] <bjwebb> 2) can i control the playback?
[11:07] <flaccid> userah, are you using iptables?
[11:07] <flaccid> !iptables
[11:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> !info guidedog
[11:08] <ubotu> guidedog: NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 124 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog
[11:08] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[11:09] <userah> flaccid: nope
[11:10] <flaccid> nope what
[11:10] <bjwebb> can anyone help me?
[11:11] <WaltzingAlong> bjwebb: those who know your answer and are here usually answer; btw i use mplayer with firefox
[11:11] <flaccid> !help
[11:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:11] <userah> flaccid: I`m note using iptables
[11:11] <flaccid> !ask | bjwebb
[11:11] <ubotu> bjwebb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <WaltzingAlong> !info mozilla-mplayer
[11:11] <flaccid> sorry
[11:11] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[11:11] <flaccid> i missed your Q. perhaps try #firefox
[11:12] <flaccid> userah, what are you using
[11:12] <bjwebb> flaccid: yeah it was about configuring the xine-player
[11:12] <flaccid> bjwebb, my bad. sorry mate i wish i could advise. try #ubuntu-effects for the compiz issue
[11:12] <userah> flaccid There`s that firewall generator http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/index.php
[11:12] <bjwebb> flaccid: i know what the issue is, its actually the driver
[11:13] <bjwebb> but i got kopete to play nicely by changing a video setting
[11:13] <userah> flaccid: nothg for now, just install it
[11:13] <bjwebb> i jsut wondered if there was settings somewhere for the plugin
[11:13] <flaccid> bjwebb, i would contact the authors. problem xine is pretty slow and unactive and lacks doco so good luck
[11:13] <flaccid> userah, it is iptables...
[11:13] <flaccid> says it in the header
[11:14] <flaccid> i will check the file for you
[11:14] <userah> thanks!
[11:15] <bjwebb> WaltzingAlong: do you know if you could change the settings of an mplayer plugin?
[11:15] <anto> Can somone explain what "err:dsound:DSOUND_MixOne underrun on sound buffer 0xd9dce10" means?
[11:15] <WaltzingAlong> bjwebb: right mouse click on it in the browser
[11:17] <greencookie> hey WaltzingAlong, neither 'ati' nor 'flgrx' worked:(
[11:17] <flaccid> bjwebb, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo ?
[11:17] <bjwebb> i don't want itables!
[11:17] <flaccid> bjwebb, thats what you are using so yes you want it
[11:18] <flaccid> bjwebb, the site you linked was titled "Easy Firewall Generator for IPTables"
[11:18] <bjwebb> no, but that link wasn't for me was it
[11:18] <flaccid> yes it was
[11:18] <bjwebb> flaccid: aren't you meant to be talking to useah?
[11:18] <bjwebb> userah rather
[11:18] <flaccid> it advises the location of the firewall rules which is what you want
[11:19] <bjwebb> no its is not!
[11:19] <flaccid> ah shit
[11:19] <flaccid> my bad
[11:19] <bjwebb> lol
[11:19] <flaccid> forgive me i can't read this terminal very well
[11:19] <bjwebb> konversation ftw
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> greencookie: alt+f2        kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf                  find the part about BusID then put a # in front of it to comment it out.                  like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1503/
[11:19] <flaccid> well whoever wants the default rules file for iptables: /etc/iptables.rules
[11:20] <flaccid> please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo  for howto on firewall for ubuntu
[11:20] <flaccid> bjwebb, you want xine stuff right?
[11:20] <bjwebb> yeah xine-plugin
[11:20] <flaccid> bjwebb, whats the undesired behaviour?
[11:20] <bjwebb> well the video is mucked up with compiz, but thats true of all video players
[11:21] <bjwebb> i have to change a setting to get it to do the video in a simpler way
[11:21] <flaccid> ah you can only take it up with xine people unfortunately. i've tried this in the past and its difficult.
[11:21] <flaccid> unless you believe its the UI and not the codec..
[11:21] <flaccid> hard to say i guess
[11:21] <flaccid> !bugs
[11:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:21] <bjwebb> i can fix it in kaffeine
[11:21] <flaccid> raise a bug on it and see the response
[11:22] <bjwebb> the problems actualy the vid. driver
[11:22] <bjwebb> this is just a way round
[11:22] <flaccid> if you think its the vid driver, take it up with them...
[11:22] <userah> flaccid: thank you!
[11:22] <flaccid> not much else you can do but report it
[11:22] <bjwebb> flaccid: nah my gfx card driver
[11:22] <flaccid> unless you are a dev
[11:22] <bjwebb> but if i switch video driver iit works
[11:23] <bjwebb> from auto to xshm in kaffeine
[11:23] <bjwebb> i want to know how i change the same setting for the plugin
[11:23] <flaccid> hard to pinpoint the problem. i would just raise a bug under ubuntu to begin with
[11:23] <bjwebb> its the gfx card driver im sure, can't to compiz and vid at same time
[11:23] <frizz> аг
[11:23] <bjwebb> but the xshm videodriver in kaffeine works
[11:24] <bjwebb> so i  want to use that driver in xine plugin
[11:24] <frizz> гыыыыыыыыыыыы
[11:24] <bjwebb> ↑↑↑↑ wtf
[11:24] <frizz> fuck
[11:24] <flaccid> um thats a dif driver so um yeah tis a dif dirver
[11:24] <flaccid> !en
[11:24] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:24] <flaccid> i mean codec
[11:33] <hellhound> is there anything special with using sudo visudo?  for some reason my new line does not seem to work.  I added "use ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/g15daemon" and i am still required to use my password when i run "sudo /usr/sbin/g15daemon"
[11:36] <icewaterman> hi
[11:37] <icewaterman> i want an icon on my desktop to do exactly as the Suspend button in Log Out menu does. what command is executed by that button?
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> icewaterman: suspend?
[11:38] <icewaterman> WaltzingAlong: it does not launch suspend
[11:38] <icewaterman> i know that because even root cannot execute that one with success.
[11:38] <icewaterman> one thing it definately does is /usr/bin/kdesktop_lock --forcelock
[11:39] <icewaterman> and as far as i can tell next thing to be executed is "/bin/sh ./linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux"
[11:39] <icewaterman> however what script is behind this?
[11:40] <icewaterman> uhm and also "/bin/bash /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force" gets executed
[11:42] <icewaterman> however it seems that /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux executes the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> icewaterman: maybe ask in #kubuntu-devel ? or #kde
[11:42] <jussi01> !dual head
[11:42] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:42] <jussi01> !xinerama
[11:42] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:43] <serzholino> !apport
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <kaminix> Anyone now a good English - English dictionary for KDE? I know I can find loads of them by randomly searching with apt, but any recommentadions?
[11:44] <pbn> english-english ? did you have a few beers ? heh
[11:45] <pbn> you want to translate English to English ?
[11:45] <kaminix> pbn: Such as Oxford advanced learners thinge or an encyclopedia like thingie.
[11:45] <icewaterman> kaminix: pbn well there are uni-language dictionaries, more like an encyclopedia
[11:45] <pbn> oh yes, now I get it
[11:46] <pbn> yeah I know Oxford's, I've got it
[11:46] <icewaterman> kaminix: due to the size i suspect you do not want to download but rather look the stuff up online (en.wikipedia.org)
[11:46] <kaminix> Swedish-English would be nice too, but somehow I doubt I'll find one :p
[11:47] <kaminix> icewaterman: Nah, looking it up offline is nice too. Besides, Wikipedia goes pretty much into detail.
[11:47] <crazy_bus> I installed compiz-fusion and then uninstalled it.  However I've now lost alt+tab  How do I get it back?
[11:47] <icewaterman> kaminix: didnt kbabel translate such stuff?
[11:47] <kaminix> icewaterman: What is Kbabel?
[11:48] <icewaterman> kaminix: kbabel is some translator program
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> !info kdict
[11:49] <ubotu> kdict: dictionary client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 297 kB, installed size 876 kB
[11:49] <icewaterman> WaltzingAlong: right, kdict is better
[11:49] <kaminix> icewaterman: Says "PO-file editing suite for KDE" in apt for babel.
[11:49] <kaminix> Thanks WaltzingAlong, I'll look :)
[11:49] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a dlink dwl-g122 rev c1 usb wifi stick.  kubuntu detects it out of the box with the rt73 module.  but i can't seem to connect to any APs.  any ideas?
[11:51] <Kred> Hi. There's an app (KpoGre) which I'd want but it's not in the repos nor I can't find any packages of it. There are SuSE packages of it, should I try to use those or build from source?
[11:53] <flaccid> !alien | Kred
[11:53] <ubotu> Kred: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:53] <flaccid> suse uses rpm iirc
[11:53] <Kred> Yes. I asked because of alien but.. :I
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> Kred: build from source
[11:54] <flaccid> i would try alien then source myself
[11:54] <Kred> ok
[11:55] <Kred> Thanks for the answers :)
[11:55] <ole> Kred: i would build from source and use checkinstall to build a package
[11:55] <flaccid> np
[11:56] <flaccid> if compile/install is no problem as in its provided then do that
[11:56] <flaccid> see how you go on the deps etc.
[11:57] <crazy_bus> so no one knows how to re-enable alt+tab switching?
[11:57] <flaccid> crazy_bus, try #kde
[11:57] <flaccid> check your shortcuts etc. in kcontrol
[11:57] <flaccid> its all in there
[11:58] <jussi01> Hmmm, can you use displayconfig-gtk on kubuntu?
[11:58] <jussi01> !info displayconfig-gtk
[11:58] <ubotu> displayconfig-gtk: Simple tool to change xserver settings. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.7 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 604 kB
[11:58] <jussi01> ...
[11:58] <flaccid> yes you can jussi01
[11:58] <jussi01> thanks flaccid :)
[11:58] <flaccid> np
[11:58] <flaccid> most gtk apps will work
[11:59] <crazy_bus> thanks flaccid
[11:59] <jussi01> yeah, was just checking that it wasnt playing with gnome only settings
[11:59] <flaccid> it should be abstracted totally. gnome is a de not a tk
[12:00] <jussi01> oh, yeah, what was the command to refresh kicker?
[12:00] <flaccid> killall kicker && kicker
[12:00] <flaccid> um
[12:00] <flaccid> killall kicker; kicker
[12:00] <jussi01> hmmm, thought there was some dcop thing
[12:00] <flaccid> if not
[12:00] <flaccid> ah ok, probably sorry there probably is
[12:06] <timri> dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:07] <jari> my laptop is melting.. it's really warm but it didnt get this warm while using windows
[12:07] <flaccid> try ##windows
[12:09] <jussi01> sigh
[12:10] <timri> jussi01: dcop kicker kicker restart
[12:10] <jussi01> timri: thanks. all sorted with that now. its this dual head setup thats the issue
[12:14] <timri> the session manager doesnt like the network-manager it seems. all saved konqueror windows fail because the network has not come up yet. Anyone know a way around ? a ifup hook or something?
[12:15] <dave200202> hello mates
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> hello dates
[12:15] <flaccid> i gtg
[12:15] <jari> is there anything you can do to cool down the PC?
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> jari: use the power saving settings? switch to powersave or dynamic modes
[12:16] <timri> jari: use top to see if a process is eating up all your cpu (strigi does that sometimes)
[12:16] <WaltzingAlong> i have not seen strigi since sudo aptitude purge strigi...
[12:17] <timri> WaltzingAlong: been there and done that too... hehe poor jos
[12:17] <jari> thanks, strigi is not running
[12:17] <jari> WaltzingAlong: where can I find the power saving settings?
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> jari: guidance-power-manager
[12:19] <jari> WaltzingAlong: sorry I dont know where is guidance? Im looking from system settings
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> jari: alt+f2   then guidance-power-manager        or            it may already be running next to the clock as 'power manager'
[12:20] <timri> jari: alt-f2, or use a konsole
[12:20] <Kred> Hey I'm seeing ksysguard eating my CPU..
[12:21] <timri> Kred: that's fairly normal, use top, it is a quite a bit lighter
[12:21] <Kred> Oh ok :)
[12:21] <jari> WaltzingAlong: it could not be started because an instance was already running
[12:22] <Kred> Btw, I don't see trackerd installed. Is it only for Ubuntu?
[12:22] <kolla> Is this KDE or something else? I only have it on my gutsy box:  http://amiga.nvg.org/moro/volum.png
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> jari: ok then there is likely the icon for it already in the systray next to the clock
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> kde!
[12:22] <Jucato> kolla: it's a known bug with KMilo
[12:22] <kolla> when I press XF86AudioRaiseVolume/XF86AudioLowerVolume that's the one that shows up
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> Kred: for ubuntu/gnome
[12:22] <timri> WaltzingAlong: you didnt forget to remove the strigi cache did you? aptitude purge doesnt remove it
[12:23] <jari> WaltzingAlong: ah yes thank you
[12:23] <kolla> Jucato: aha.. it just swaps between 0% and 11%, is that normal? :)
[12:23] <Kred> WaltzingAlong: good :) I don't want such thing in my laptop :)
[12:23] <Kred> Thanks!
[12:23] <Jucato> kolla: it's not normal. it's a bug. and it has been reported already
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> rm -r ~/.strigi ? and the like, sure did
[12:23] <kolla> Jucato: ok
[12:23] <Jucato> strigi and dolphin are getting too much bad publicity because of this :(
[12:23] <Jucato> (the *real* dolphin)
[12:24] <timri> Jucato: On my system dolphin went the way of the dodo.
[12:24] <jussi01> grrrr...
[12:24] <Jucato> timri: it flew? :D
[12:24] <timri> Jucato: It sank like a stone
[12:25] <Jucato> poor dodos... they can neither fly, nor swim it seems :D
[12:25] <kolla> Jucato: so "normal" would be to get the usual big volume gauge? :)
[12:26] <Jucato> kolla: no. the normal would be that it can go beyond 11% :D
[12:26] <timri> anyone know of a way to get the session manager to wait restoring until after the network has come up?
[12:26] <Jucato> kolla: it's normal that it looks like that. it's a new theme for kmilo
[12:26] <timri> Jucato: This one goes to eleven!
[12:28] <kolla> Jucato: ah, ok
[12:29] <kolla> Jucato: but..uhm.. is it also normal that it doesnt actually make any difference to the sound level?
[12:29] <Jucato> that I don't know :)
[12:29] <kolla> normal.. as in, part of this bug :)
[12:32] <hydrogen> hey
[12:32] <hydrogen> someone broke the topic!
[12:33] <Jucato> ?
[12:33] <hydrogen> the last not-a-link
[12:33] <hydrogen> is missing a ubuntu
[12:33] <Jucato> it's a link here
[12:33] <hydrogen> not a working one
[12:33] <Jucato> working here
[12:34] <hydrogen> its supposed to be /HelpingKubuntu
[12:34] <WaltzingAlong> hydrogen:  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu ?
[12:34] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[12:34] <hydrogen> not /HelpingK
[12:34] <Lynoure> hydrogen: nothing    sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop  would not fix, if you are serious
[12:34] <hydrogen> The channel topic is "Official Kubuntu support channel | Download Gutsy http://kubuntu.org/download.php | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0beta3: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php | Wanna help?
[12:34] <hydrogen> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingK"
[12:34] <Jucato> hydrogen: working fine here. are you sure it's not just your window that cuts it off?
[12:34] <WaltzingAlong> so your client cuts it off
[12:34] <Jucato> hydrogen: what IRC client?
[12:34] <hydrogen> odd for konversation to do that..
[12:34] <Lynoure> hydrogen: oh, you meant your topic is missing ubuntu :)
[12:34] <Jucato> using konvi here, but still fine
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> konversation here too
[12:35] <Jucato> hydrogen: can you check Window -> Channel Settings for #kubuntu?
[12:35] <hydrogen> try cycling the channel
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> /topic
[12:35] <Jucato> still works perfectly
[12:35] <hydrogen> only goes to /HelpingK there
[12:36] <Jucato> can you check Window -> Channel Settings for #kubuntu?
[12:36] <hydrogen> what i just said
[12:36] <Jucato> really weird
[12:37] <xevious> weird
[12:37] <xevious> i see all of it
[12:37] <xevious> good morning everyone
[12:37] <Jucato> hydrogen: what version of Konvi?
[12:37] <hydrogen> 1.0.1
[12:37] <Jucato> hm.. same version, no problem here :/
[12:37] <hydrogen> and its not that its too long..
[12:37] <hydrogen> echo topic | wc -c is 441
[12:37] <hydrogen> TOPICLEN is 450
[12:37] <hydrogen> weird
[12:38] <Jucato> poor hydrogen_...
[12:38] <jussi01> hydrogen: does it not just have a drag down on the topic bit?
[12:39] <hydrogen_> works now?
[12:39] <hydrogen_> thats crazy!
[12:39] <Hydrogen> jussi01: no, the topic was truncated everywhere
[12:39] <Hydrogen> not just at the top
[12:39] <Hydrogen> anyways
[12:39] <jussi01> heh
[12:39] <Hydrogen> I need to breakfast
[12:39] <Hydrogen> and then meet
[12:39] <Hydrogen> back later!
[12:39] <jussi01> Im gonna kill ati..
[12:39] <jussi01> stupid freaking drivers
[12:39] <ubuntu> Hi there
[12:39] <xevious> good plan, jussi01
[12:40] <timri> jussi01: while you're at it, kill via for me as well >(
[12:40] <jussi01> lol
[12:40]  * xevious watches jussi01 go on a killing spree
[12:40] <willo> hi guys
[12:40] <jussi01> anyone seen this error when running xrandr: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:41] <Jucato> jussi01: libxrandr2 installed?
[12:42] <willo> Anyone having hassles with nVidia drivers on Gutsy?
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> willo: none
[12:42] <xevious> willo: what problems are you having?
[12:42] <jussi01> Jucato: yes...
[12:42] <timri> willo: yeah, got the blank screen of death on a GeForce 6150
[12:42] <willo> Weird: Since I upgraded I experience intermittend lockups
[12:42] <Jucato> hm..
[12:43] <willo> Not even mouse cursor moves
[12:44] <timri> willo: propriatary drivers or nv?
[12:44] <willo> Propriatory
[12:44] <willo> I've moved to nv
[12:44] <willo> and so far so good
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> black screen of death, haha
[12:44] <timri> willo: curious
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> from repo or nvidia.com?
[12:45] <timri> WaltzingAlong: BLANK screen of death
[12:45] <willo> from repo
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> ;) ok blank screen of death, hehe
[12:45] <timri> Teaches me to use an old IBM G50 monitor on a semi-modern machine
[12:45] <willo> Also, I tried to install via Envy
[12:45] <timri> ehh, NOT to use of course
[12:45] <willo> but now I get "Unable to install build-essentail"
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> !envy | willo
[12:46] <ubotu> willo: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:46] <timri> ubotu: LOL
[12:46] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:46] <willo> lol
[12:46] <jussi01> !bot | timri
[12:47] <willo> Hey, I'm desperate
[12:47] <ubotu> timri: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> willo: as you may know, use of the envy script is not recommended
[12:47] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Yea, I know...
[12:47] <willo> Any idea why build-essentials won't install?
[12:47] <WaltzingAlong> willo: sudo aptitude install build-essentials          we will find out
[12:48] <mouhamed> salu
[12:48] <timri> salut
[12:48] <eindbaas> Hi, after installing kubuntu 7.10 my laptop's fan is always on, I can turn if off doing echo -n 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state, but this doesnt seem like the proper fix :)
[12:48] <eindbaas> any ideas?
[12:49] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: check the guidance-power-manager settings (may already be running, check the systray)
[12:49] <willo> Ack:
[12:50] <willo> The following packages are BROKEN:
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> what envy broke packages?!?! no
[12:50] <willo>   libc6-dev
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | willo
[12:50] <ubotu> willo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <eindbaas> WaltzingAlong: is that that little icon with the charging battery?
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: yes
[12:50] <willo> No, wasn't envy
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> willo: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install
[12:50] <willo> envy won't event get to install
[12:50] <winne> hi
[12:50] <eindbaas> WaltzingAlong: there's not much in there about the fan
[12:51] <blix> salu les gars
[12:51] <jussi01> eindbaas: is it a latitude d400?
[12:51] <eindbaas> no, nec versa p520
[12:51] <WaltzingAlong> eindbaas: perhaps nothing at all. i was thinking of the powersave/performance/dynamic settings
[12:52] <winne> Is there an easy way to enable visual effects in kubuntu?
[12:52] <willo> Downgrade the following packages:
[12:52] <willo> libc6 [2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (now) -> 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 (gutsy)]
[12:52] <willo> libc6-i386 [2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (now) -> 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 (gutsy)]
[12:52] <eindbaas> cpu freq scaling policy is set to dynamic
[12:52] <willo> Downgrade?
[12:52] <jussi01> eindbaas: you could try adding acpi=off to the grub start command
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> willo: seems reasonable
[12:52] <winne> w/ gnome I just had to enable "Visual effects"
[12:52] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | winne
[12:52] <blix> je veux voir depuis mon réseau a partir de windows voir le partage de linux
[12:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: why?
[12:52] <jussi01> !fr | blix
[12:52] <ubotu> blix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:52] <winne> thx, WaltzingAlong
[12:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: isn't it just going to upgradethem next run?
[12:53] <eindbaas> jussi01: hm, isnt it better to keep acpi enabled?
[12:53] <eindbaas> i can already turn of the fan doing echo -n 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state, but i'm thinking it might overheat or something :D
[12:53] <blix> ok
[12:53] <WaltzingAlong> willo: if it could do so without error, perhaps but if there are unmet dependencies, no
[12:53] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Ok, lemme try that
[12:54] <WaltzingAlong> willo: then afterward give it another sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:54] <jussi01> eindbaas: the latitude d400 has that issue, and thats the work around. see bug 127772
[12:54] <winne> will try it
[12:54] <winne> bye
[12:56] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Thanks-do you think that perhaps that upgrade went funny?
[12:56] <eindbaas> jussi01: i'm trying it, thanks
[12:56] <jussi01> eindbaas: cool.
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: could have been a mix of repos or packages but adept or apt-get and the like should not have forced installing/upgrading to a broken state
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: so something forced it
[12:57] <WaltzingAlong> willo: and now that envy can work, skip it ;)
[12:57] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Ok, perhaps thats why the nVidia drivers freaked?
[12:58] <WaltzingAlong> willo: could be
[12:58] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | willo, install from the repo or with this guide for the latest nvidia
[12:58] <ubotu> willo, install from the repo or with this guide for the latest nvidia: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:01] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Seems happy now: I'll follow the instructions you sent-Thanx
[13:01] <willo> Bye
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> cheers
[13:02] <eindbaas> jussi01: it does disable the fan, but won't i lose all the other acpi functionality this way?
[13:03] <jussi01> eindbaas: not sure. sorry.
[13:03] <eindbaas> hm i think so, because there's no icon saying my battery is charging
[13:08] <tinel> Hi, i'm new in kubuntu 7.10 and have a problem while loading an external usb hard drive. Message shown is: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 . Can anyone help me?
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> tinel: certainly. http://jaiku.com/channel/linux/presence/14843835 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530968           also you can configure these devices in kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems
[13:10] <sparrw> when i try compiz --replace it complains that it cant find metacity.  help?
[13:11] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | sparrw  check the compiz channel and wiki
[13:11] <tinel> thanks i'll try now..
[13:12] <sparrw> WaltzingAlong: thanks for the form letter.  itchy ctrl+v fingers?
[13:12] <WaltzingAlong> yes i type the same answer only so many times before creating an alias for it
[13:13] <sparrw> since im already trying to run compiz, its a safe bet ive already followed the instructions
[13:16] <atlfalcons866> is kde4 stable enough to use
[13:16] <Jucato> no]
[13:18] <atlfalcons866> !hardy
[13:18] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) | Due April 2008 | For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron | Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[13:20] <angasule> after I installed gutsy (from the live CD) and I booted into it, I did an update and after the update I got prompted to update version, isn't that messed up? I chose not to, at that time
[13:21] <Jucato> known bug
[13:22] <angasule> how did that get through QA? I have installed gutsy 3 times, and two times that happend (the third one the system didn't boot, kernel panic)
[13:22] <atlfalcons866> how do i turn off the bouncing icon
[13:22] <Jucato> the fewer people who help test upgrades and report bugs, the less chances of catching and fixing bugs
[13:23] <Jucato> atlfalcons866: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback
[13:23] <atlfalcons866> jucato: thanks
[13:24] <tinel> now everything is working on my ext usb hd!! thanks!!!
[13:24] <tinel> bye
[13:25] <angasule> Jucato: I think in this hemisphere it's easy to help for the first release in each year, our LUG has about 100 people in the email list, most on kubuntu, we might be of use eventually
[13:25] <Jucato> angasule: that would be great!
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> sparr_w so perhaps you have followed them already. your answer is likely a faq in the compiz fusion channel or or on the wiki but is not a kubuntu specific issue
[13:32] <WaltzingAlong> tinel: great, glad it is working
[13:35] <pbn> Hello, I have some kind of a problem
[13:35] <lander> hello evryone
[13:35] <lander> tell it
[13:35] <pbn> I installed kdmtheme with aptitude
[13:35] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: use to play with sure but not for production/need it working systems
[13:35] <pbn> now I do have the ability to "disable KDM themes" in kcontrol
[13:35] <pbn> but even if I disable the KDM themes and reboot, it's still using a KDM theme !
[13:35] <lander> hye Waltzing
[13:36] <lander> Waltzingalong: hey
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> lander: greetings
[13:36] <fevel> hey guys...is there a one stop command for removing kubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu system?
[13:36] <fevel> I have the cd and would like two clean systems
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: sure sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: of course that is most helpful if you installed through aptitude. check http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[13:37] <fevel> I used sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i cant get firefox :(
[13:38] <fevel> and I used sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[13:38] <fevel> but it left all the kde packages
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: ok so then you removed that package. but of course it left those
[13:38] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i have a sot of package but dont know to çnstal
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: you may have some success with sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: which is that
[13:38] <Angelus> morning
[13:38] <fevel> nothing :/
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> !info gtkorphan | fevel
[13:39] <ubotu> fevel: gtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-2 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 328 kB
[13:39] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ? which ?  need Firefox
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: otherwise you can check the link i sent, there are instructions for removing the kde pieces
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: with dapper? aptitude search firefox             find it?
[13:39] <fevel> ok
[13:39] <fevel> thanks a lot guys
[13:39] <fevel> !
[13:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: large list of laungetypes and some tools
[13:41] <WaltzingAlong> !info mozilla-firefox (dapper)
[13:41] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.14~prepatch071011b-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 104 kB
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> !info firefox (dapper)
[13:42] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.14~prepatch071011b-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7791 kB, installed size 23060 kB
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude install firefox            ?
[13:43] <lg188> ty^^
[13:43]  * lg188 thursty
[13:44]  * lg188 likes linux based an linux OS of being open source not lik win
[13:44] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: gnu/linux based operating systems are wonderful
[13:44] <sharkp> hi
[13:44] <sharkp> I've a problem with audio
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | sharkp
[13:45] <ubotu> sharkp: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:45] <sharkp> it doesn't work
[13:45] <sharkp> but on windows card and speakers work
[13:45] <lg188> ty waltzing ^^ for firfox instaling help
[13:45] <sharkp> so, which could be the problem?
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: lspci    which card? check kmix that the sliders are up and enabled
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: welcome
[13:46] <pizzicato`> !compiz
[13:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:46] <timri> sharkp: also make sure you are part of the audio group
[13:47] <sharkp> timri, until yesterday the audio has always worked
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: so what changed yesterday?
[13:47] <lg188> !info kde
[13:47] <W8TAH> hi folks -- whats the general feeling amoungst the Kubuntu community on 7.10 (Gusty) for production use?
[13:47] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[13:47] <sharkp> this is the question
[13:47] <sharkp> lol
[13:47] <sharkp> my audio card is:
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: LTS
[13:47] <sharkp> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[13:48] <W8TAH> WaltzingAlong: its a LTS edition?
[13:48] <sharkp> kmix is normal
[13:48] <sharkp> Now I'll control groups
[13:48] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: no last one was 6.06 dapper and next one is 8.04 hardy
[13:49] <timri> WaltzingAlong: 6.06.1
[13:49] <W8TAH> ok -- i guess im being slow this morning - what are you suggestin gthen?
[13:49] <lg188> ? how to instal java runtime ?
[13:49] <WaltzingAlong> right
[13:49] <timri> W8TAH: to stay with Dapper ftm
[13:49] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: the plugin for the web browser?
[13:49] <W8TAH> timri: ok - - why?
[13:49] <sharkp> I'm in audio group
[13:50] <timri> W8TAH: it is more stable, has well known bugs
[13:50] <lg188> Waltzingalong: yep
[13:50] <W8TAH> ok
[13:50] <W8TAH> im getting quite a divergence of views :)
[13:50] <timri> W8TAH: for instance: Gutsy+Unichrome --> Wine does not work
[13:50] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, any suggestion?
[13:51] <W8TAH> timri: that wont be an issue -- i dont use unichrome or wine
[13:51] <WaltzingAlong> !info sun-java5-plugin (dapper) | lg188
[13:51] <ubotu> lg188: sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 96 kB
[13:51] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[13:51] <Angelus> guys
[13:51] <timri> W8TAH: the point is: as Gutsy has just been released, new bugs are bound to crop up NOW
[13:51] <timri> W8TAH: you dont want that in a production env.
[13:52] <W8TAH> thats very true
[13:52] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: unless you are on feisty then perhaps jumping to gutsy is not so bad
[13:52] <W8TAH> im on fiesty
[13:52] <W8TAH> for servers im staying with the LTS -- this is for a personal machine and my dual boot laptop
[13:52] <Angelus> my friend has this problem, he has a dell laptop, when he boots in ubuntu it dvd works fine, when he boots in kubuntu, and presses something from the menu, nothing works, he really wishes to install kubuntu on his laptop, any help dudes?
[13:52] <timri> W8TAH: If it aint broke...
[13:52] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[13:53] <W8TAH> thats the problem - the personal box is broke -- havin a number of issues that will require a reformat one way or the other
[13:53] <W8TAH> just trying to decide which way to jump
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> Angelus: he can install from the ubuntu dvd and then install kubuntu via the package kubuntu-desktop and could remove ubuntu-desktop
[13:53] <sharkp> who can help me?
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: then gutsy
[13:53] <timri> W8TAH: In that case (personal box) I would at least try gutsy livecd
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: you can
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: aplay -l
[13:54] <W8TAH> awesome guys -- thanks a ton - -thats the piece i was lookin for
[13:54] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, **** Lista di PLAYBACK dispositivi hardware ****
[13:54] <sharkp> scheda 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], dispositivo 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
[13:54] <sharkp>   Sottoperiferiche: 0/1
[13:54] <sharkp>   Sottoperiferica #0: subdevice #0
[13:54] <lg188> Waltzingalong: for shockwave ? sudo apt-get search shockwave ?
[13:54] <Angelus> WaltzingAlong: but, installing from the livedvd makes a better installation, like programs will detect better you're kubuntu os, for example cedega, frostwire, progs like that
[13:55] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: not sure it is that easy for shockwave and dapper
[13:55]  * genii sips a coffee
[13:55] <WaltzingAlong> Angelus: something to try, not so dirty as it seems
[13:56] <bjwebb> shockwave as in the movie player?
[13:56] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, so?
[13:56] <lg188> Waltzingalong: kk is it dowloading manual
[13:56] <timri> brb
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: if backports is enabled, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:58] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[14:00] <lg188> il lik the suport of kubuntu users its more helping people
[14:00] <sharkp> oh, I can't solve my problem
[14:00] <sharkp> uff...
[14:01] <lg188> and i ca'nt help it :(
[14:01] <lg188> i hope i can help later
[14:02] <WaltzingAlong> !audio | sharkp, we walk through, scientific approach, one thing, not then, ok perhaps this, not that, ok
[14:02] <ubotu> sharkp, we walk through, scientific approach, one thing, not then, ok perhaps this, not that, ok: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:03] <lg188>  Shockwave Player ?
[14:04] <lg188> Waltzingalong: Shockwave Player dide'nt a instaled it just 5 minets ago ?
[14:04] <lg188> Waltzingalong: nope it was flashplayer
[14:04] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you mentioned manually installing shockwave player
[14:05] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, audio system is enabled
[14:05] <lg188> Waltzingalong: it is'nt for me :We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform
[14:06] <lg188> whien
[14:06] <lg188> that was a game :(
[14:06] <lg188> and i like to play it on a windows but i cant do it on kubuntu
[14:08] <lg188> beacaus teh abdobe dont lknowtaht just so good OS exists
[14:08] <timri> lg188: shockwave is not available for linux
[14:08] <genii> flash+linux=doable shockwave+linux=not
[14:08] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: i do not see gnu/linux in the list of systems for which adobe supplies a shockwave browser plugin http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[14:10] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i knwo i looked also  why do they not make it ? is it to dificult for making it even in linux ??
[14:10] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: apparently just a perceived lack of interest and subsequent lack of development by adobe. lg188 be sure to message adobe that you would like to see it
[14:10] <timri> lg188: ask adobe
[14:11] <lg188> timn: i wont it wont meahter
[14:11] <genii> Sign the Shockwave for Linux petition then if you feel strongly enough about it. http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[14:11] <lg188> ty^^ for suporting me =)
[14:12] <timri> lg188: of course it matters, if enough people ask them...
[14:12] <eagles0513875> does anyone know if there r any bugs with the w64codecs
[14:13] <lg188> timn: kk let it go i need a large thing and i dont know muth peopel that use even linux or kubunbtu
[14:13] <lg188> exual nobody
[14:14] <lg188> an that is the reason that i hate windows
[14:15] <eagles0513875> lg188: why do u hate windows
[14:15] <pbn> hello, how can I disable the "hibernate" function in the "shutdown" menu on 7.10 ?
[14:16] <timri> eagles0513875: Just curious, what extra codecs do you need that you cant compile into mplayer (for instance)?
[14:16] <eagles0513875> timri: i have all my audio in wma losless
[14:16] <eagles0513875> and for some reason in soundkonverter there is no wma decoder and i have the w64codecs installed
[14:17] <timri> eagles05:ah, ok
[14:18] <lg188> tha there ar to many windows user thar there are olmost 1 kubuntu suer in 90streets
[14:18] <lg188> user*
[14:18] <timri> lg188: And that makes us extra special :)
[14:18] <lg188> im my country
[14:18] <lg188> =D
[14:18] <lg188> XD
[14:19] <pbn> also, how can I disable the "switch user" feature whent he screen is locked ? There's stuff on the web which says you have to change things in  ./.kde/share/config/kdeglobals ... but these changes are erased by KDE itself...
[14:19] <eagles0513875> does anyone know of any w64codec bugs
[14:20] <kaminix> !swedish
[14:20] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[14:20] <eagles0513875> !bugs
[14:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:21] <lg188> how to colour the text ?
[14:24]  * lg188 looking for speakers
[14:24] <kaminix> Colour what text?
[14:24] <d347hm4n> can i install all requiered gnome packages with an sudo apt-get install gnome, or do i need other packages?
[14:26] <lg188> oh let it i know it already it a config
[14:26] <Jucato> d347hm4n: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[14:26] <d347hm4n> thanks jucato
[14:26]  * Jucato thumbs up
[14:27] <eagles0513875> this suxs
[14:28] <eagles0513875> any ideas as to why i dont have a wma decoder i have ever codec pkg imaginable installed
[14:28] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: ffmpeg ? vlc ? mplayer ?
[14:28] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i have them all and in soundkonverter no wma decoder just an encoder
[14:28] <eagles0513875> i need the decoder so i can get rid of the wma format and convert to flac
[14:29] <lg188> i dont know
[14:29] <d347hm4n> Jucato: Do i have to do the default window manager step of im using emerald?
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: so could you use something else to get to wav, mplayer or the like
[14:29] <Jucato> d347hm4n: don't know
[14:29] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i cant get out of wma to any format
[14:29] <d347hm4n> Jucato: np, thanks anyway
[14:29] <eagles0513875> cuz i dont have a decoder
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: vlc file.wma plays nothing?
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: or mplayer ?
[14:30] <d347hm4n> are there any other window managers i can use, just to try things out?
[14:30] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: myy bad i need the encoder
[14:30] <lg188> how to decode a mp3 to teh kubuntu version of it ?
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i have the decoder
[14:30] <eagles0513875> lg188: soundkonvert
[14:30] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: you want the flac encoder? !info flac
[14:30] <lg188> ty^^
[14:30] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i have all teh codecs for flac already
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i am having issues getting wma
[14:30] <eagles0513875> out of wma
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i need the encoder
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i  have the w64codecs installed
[14:31] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: right you wish to use the program soundkonverter but i am asking you if you can play a .wma file with mplayer or vlc
[14:31] <eagles0513875> let me check
[14:32] <eagles0513875> in mplaeyer it complains about the codec
[14:32] <eagles0513875> and in vlc it plays but no audio
[14:33] <lg188> :s
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: are they drm wma files?
[14:33] <eagles0513875> nope
[14:33] <eagles0513875> they shouldnt be unless they became drm after converting to wma
[14:33] <eagles0513875> which woudl really piss me off
[14:33] <lg188> for wmato kubuntu d"fault also soundkonvert ?
[14:34] <d347hm4n> Jucato: i will change it to gdm, then if kde stops working i will change the default
[14:34] <lg188> wma*
[14:34] <Jucato> d347hm4n: you don't need to. KDM can start GNOME sessions, and GDM can start KDE sessions
[14:35] <d347hm4n> Jucato: ok, so no harm done i guess
[14:35] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what do i do
[14:36] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: apparently only up to wma 9.0 (not 9.1 which is used by wmp 10) can be decoded with those codecs
[14:37] <lg188> ?
[14:37] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: or perhaps you start a vmware windows machine to convert them
[14:37] <lg188> wat is the sound of kubuntu .ogg ?
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> !ogg
[14:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:38] <ole> eagles0513875 what did you convert them with? i remember a friend of mine converted all of his mp3s to wma using a windows shareware application, and they were all drm-crippled afterwards...
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: yes one of the recommended free format (containers)
[14:38] <genii> ole: I've seen this hideous behaviour before as well
[14:39] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: wtf if starting dounfkonverter its a hole list of things ? staying with te defaults ?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> lg188: what format r u going for
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: or ski^?
[14:40] <b1n42y> ? Does any1 know y theres fancy desktop switching mechanism on ubuntu but not kubuntu and does it have anything to do with compiz ?
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: or skip
[14:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i go for mp3
[14:41] <eagles0513875> ole: i used somethign called jet audio which is a windows app
[14:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i dont get it that things
[14:41] <eagles0513875> ole: i have it on here installed using wine but it bitches bout the files being drm which i never drmed them to begin with
[14:41] <lg188> ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> lg188: whats wrong
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> help!
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> :)
[14:42]  * lg188 getiing sick of teh sun schying o the screen
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> i just upgraded feisty to gutsy
[14:42] <eagles0513875> !ask |martijn_nerd
[14:42] <ubotu> martijn_nerd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> and now my x is so slow
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> have  an  ati x300 card
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> tried both ati and fglrx drivers, but nothing seems to help :(
[14:43] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: clean install or upgrade
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> anyone an idea?
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> upgrade
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> tried to disable aiglx as well
[14:43] <eagles0513875> in shell
[14:44] <eagles0513875> run sudo apt-get update
[14:44] <b1n42y>  Does any1 know y theres fancy desktop switching mechanism on ubuntu but not kubuntu and does it have anything to do with compiz ????
[14:44] <eagles0513875> and if there r any updates install them
[14:44] <lg188> eagles0513875: i dont get it whit that list of things in starting 1time soundkonverter
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[14:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> b1n42y compiz is NOT included in kubuntu by default
[14:44] <eagles0513875> lg188: just choose the format u want to go into and then add the files u wanna convert and it does the rest
[14:44] <Surge> Where's the best place to ask software RAID questions?
[14:44] <b1n42y> thnx guys
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> no upadates eagle
[14:45] <lg188> eagles0513875:ty^^
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> that all went right
[14:45] <eagles0513875> lg188: no prob
[14:45] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: do u have a backup of ur xorg.conf
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> yeah
[14:45] <eagles0513875> restore the original
[14:45] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: cuz in gutsy
[14:45] <mike_____> hello all
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> but isnt' that all different now with xrandr etc
[14:46] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: not sure
[14:46] <mike_____> i have a question....  how do i install firefox on kubuntu,,, i tried with add/remove programs but it's locked
[14:46] <kaminix> mike_____: sudo aptitude install firefox should work.
[14:46] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: i had no issues cuz im on a laptop with a radeon xpress 200m all i did was login and a restricted drivers box popped up and i enabled it and my wifi rebpoted and the open gl works fine
[14:46] <b1n42y> 1 more question, is there any reasons y i should not install compiz apart from sys resources, i read some apps dont work or display properly ....
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> b1n42y compiz can be a real pain. But if you want the fancy uber eye candy its what does it.
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> You can easially run kde with or without compiz
[14:47] <b1n42y> apps wise u mean
[14:47] <mike_____> "no candidate versions were found for firefox"
[14:47] <b1n42y> uninstalling not a problem if i find its a pain ?
[14:48] <lg188> sudo apt-get search firefox
[14:48] <[Surge]> mike_____, Did you update your repositories?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> nope!
[14:48] <Hydrogen> apt-cache search
[14:48] <Hydrogen> not apt-get search
[14:48] <lg188> mike_____ udo apt-get search firfox
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> aptitude search firefox
[14:48] <mike_____> i don't think so
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> mike_____: which kubuntu? check that they are not commented out
[14:48] <kaminix> [Surge]: Firefox should be in from the begining, no?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: apt-wrong
[14:48] <mike_____> 10.3
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> Hydrogen: what?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> its apt-cache search
[14:49] <Hydrogen> not apt-get search
[14:49] <traene> Hi, I am looking for a developer chanel for linux.
[14:49] <Hydrogen> or aptitude search
[14:49] <[Surge]> kaminix, I'm not sure but I remember that error. :)
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> Hydrogen: i have not suggested to use apt-get search and yes aptitude search firefox searches
[14:49] <[Surge]> mike_____, You'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" first.
[14:49] <Hydrogen> oops
[14:49] <Hydrogen> no you didn't
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> !info firefox
[14:49] <Hydrogen> sorry
[14:49] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.8+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> np
[14:49] <Hydrogen> lg188 did twice, and you suggested aptitude right after
[14:49] <Hydrogen> and my eyes combined the two
[14:50] <lg188> Hydrogen ?
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> which is part of the reason i prefer aptitude to apt-get   aptitude install or aptitude search rather than apt-get install and apt-cache search
[14:50] <Hydrogen> lg188: apt-get search doesn't work
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: the command is apt-cache search
[14:50] <willo> Hello
[14:51] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Howzit, just had another system freeze
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> willo: welcome back
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> willo: still no video?
[14:51] <lg188> WaltzingAlong just wont to help user =)
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: :D
[14:51] <willo> WaltzingAlong: No the video's fine
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: It was running a screen saver, when *blammo*
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Not even Num Lock worked
[14:52] <WaltzingAlong> willo: are you using compiz or xserver-xgl or the like
[14:52] <timri> willo: a 3d screensaver perchance?
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Nope
[14:52] <willo> timri: No, but a GL one perhaps
[14:53] <willo> looked like a fractal
[14:53] <traene> HELP! Need developer infos about file locking. s.o. knows a chanel therefore?
[14:53] <lg188> WaltzingAlong i like them becaus they dont usez windows :)
[14:53] <timri> willo: try to work a while with the vesa driver, if it still locks up it might be a hardware problem
[14:53] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what am i supposed to do
[14:53] <mike_____> well it worked... thanks a lot
[14:53] <mike_____> :D
[14:53] <Hydrogen> traene: man flock
[14:54] <willo> timri: It looked as if nv worked, perhaps I should go back to that for a while
[14:54] <willo> timri: it's just so sloooow on the 3D stuff
[14:54] <traene> Hydrogen: No manual entry for flock found
[14:54] <Hydrogen> odd
[14:54] <Hydrogen> I have the man page
[14:54] <Hydrogen> anyways
[14:54] <timri> willo: yeah. About the locking up. I know that the asus a8n vm csm tends to lock up
[14:55] <traene> Hydrogen: anyway, I read it does not work on network drives
[14:55] <timri> willo: the northbridge gets waaaay to hot
[14:55] <lg188> WaltzingAlong my soundkonverter syas on 0%
[14:55] <willo> timri: I don't think it's a hardware problem: Feisty worked like a charm
[14:55] <timri> traene: and oplocks?
[14:56] <timri> willo: perhaps you didnt push the card that much with Feisty, just guessing
[14:56] <traene> timri: apropos oplocks -> nothing approp...
[14:56] <willo> timri: What would be pushing the card now?
[14:56] <willo> timri: The only thing that's changed is the OS
[14:57] <lg188> my siter here Wlan do'snt work
[14:57] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: rerip the albums into flac?
[14:57] <timri> willo: what nvidia card do you have, btw
[14:57] <timri> lg188: what chipset/wpa?
[14:58] <willo> timri: Nvidia Gforce 7 Series
[14:58] <willo> Don't recall the exact model number
[14:59]  * lg188 brb timri
[14:59] <timri> eagles0513875: could you post a sample from one of the wma files. To see if I can play it here (that is fair use, I hope)?
[15:00] <willo> timri: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE]
[15:00] <timri> willo: thanks
[15:01] <lg188> timri dont know she use a xp
[15:01] <lg188> sow i dont get it realy
[15:01] <willo> Ok, let me restart my xserver
[15:01] <willo> brb
[15:01] <lg188> WaltzingAlong knwo somthing of xp networking ?
[15:01] <timri> lg188: In that case... this is the wrong channel
[15:02] <eagles0513875> timri: how do i post it
[15:02] <timri> willo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566422
[15:03] <timri> willo: workaround is: use 100.14.9
[15:03] <lg188> kk witch channel  for a xp pc with networking problems
[15:03] <timri> willo: ehh, make that 100.14.09
[15:03] <eagles0513875> timri: how do i post a sample
[15:03] <willo> timri: sweet
[15:03] <timri> eagles0513875: I dont know *blush*
[15:04] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:04] <eagles0513875> timri: :(
[15:04] <timri> anyone?
[15:04] <timri> willo: you did get the link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566422
[15:05] <willo> timri: Yes, I did thanks
[15:05] <lg188> WaltzingAlong hey know a channel for xp networking problems ?
[15:05] <willo> timri: Scanning it now
[15:05] <traene> There seems to be no channel for this question :-(
[15:05] <timri> eagles0513875: http://pastebin.ca/
[15:05] <timri> Eagle_101: ehh, make that http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[15:06] <Eagle_101> mmM?
[15:06] <timri> merde
[15:06] <Eagle_101> oh ok
[15:06] <timri> eagle05: http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[15:06] <timri> something went wrong here
[15:06] <timri> brb
[15:08] <flaccid> hmm flaws in topic
[15:08] <flaccid> ah well
[15:09] <tei> Anyone know how I can create multiple ssh host keys for a single computer?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> timri: just paste bin the song
[15:09] <flaccid> why would you want to
[15:09] <tei> err, that is to say, multiple known_hosts entries for a single computer
[15:09] <timri> eagles0513875: you have a link
[15:09] <tei> because I have multiple computers on my network, all of which I get to using the same IP
[15:09] <flaccid> i thought there was just one but maybe im wrong
[15:09] <tei> but different ports
[15:10] <flaccid> that should be a dif fingerprint anyway it dosn't just go off the ip
[15:10] <tei> it keeps telling me there is a potential man in the middle attack going on, but I've checked the keys, and they are correct
[15:10] <flaccid> oh ok
[15:10] <lg188> eagles0513875 wher to find a chanel for networking in winxp ?
[15:11] <flaccid> in that case its a difference in keys likely. remove the key from known_hosts
[15:11] <tei> (I ended up having to bounce from the first computer key it loaded, from the others... but that prohibits an sftp connection, which is the main thing I'm trying to do
[15:11] <flaccid> lg188, ##windows
[15:11] <tei> well, the key for one port is correct
[15:11] <flaccid> worst case, delete known_hosts
[15:11] <tei> but it looks like it's trying to load that same key for a different port, even though that is gonna be a completely different computer
[15:11] <flaccid> how did you verify it is correct tei?
[15:11] <lg188> flaccid ty^^
[15:12] <traene> tei: better use fixed adresses in your dhcp system...?
[15:12] <flaccid> wouldn't make a dif
[15:12] <tei> I bounced from the computer that I could get on to the one I am trying to access, then catted /etc/ssh/*.pub, and matched it up
[15:12] <timri> eagles0513875: ok, this is not working
[15:13] <tei> I do you fixed addresses lan side on remote system
[15:13] <flaccid> um
[15:13] <flaccid> you do realise it goes on the known_hosts from the system you are bouncing from...
[15:13] <tei> yeah, so, computer a, b, c.... computer a is where I'm at
[15:14] <tei> b is the one it says is being man in the middled
[15:14] <flaccid> if computer a has the host and its going to b and its wrong then yeah...
[15:14] <tei> c I already have the correct ssh cert for
[15:14] <tei> I ssh to c
[15:14] <tei> then from c, ssh to b
[15:14] <flaccid> quick solution is to delete the entry
[15:14] <flaccid> a cert is not a key
[15:14] <tei> sorry, I meant key, too much multitasking
[15:15] <flaccid> if it were correct, this wouldn't occurr..
[15:15] <eagles0513875> lg188: i dunno dude
[15:15] <tei> same problem, now I can't get into computer c though
[15:15] <eagles0513875> timri: couldnt u convert one of ur songs using jetaudio to wma losless and try soundkonverter
[15:16] <tei> it thinks that all computers at a given dns entry will have the same ssh key
[15:16] <tei> it's only letting me have one at a time
[15:16] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me wihta wine related issue cuz that channel is dead
[15:16] <bazhang> any idea of the full kubuntu install size? less than 2.5 GB? More? Forgot how to check. Thanks!
[15:16] <lg188> anybody knwos some linux games ?
[15:16] <timri> eagles0513875: since jetaudio is windows only,
[15:17] <flaccid> eagles0513875, why are they on the same settings then
[15:17] <bazhang> lg188: frozen bubble, tux racer, warzone 2100, um world of warcraft will work, though not Linux..
[15:17] <timri> eagles0513875: and I cannot run wine on this laptop (unichrome locks it up)... the answer is no
[15:17] <lg188> anybody knows some Kubuntu games ?
[15:17] <spykedtomato> hey all
[15:17] <flaccid> !games
[15:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:17] <wea> les gars j'ai un probleme
[15:17] <lg188> bazhang ty^^
[15:18] <lg188> flaccid also ty^^
[15:18] <bazhang> lg188: no problem--looking for anything in particular?
[15:18] <tei> flaccid, any ideas?
[15:18] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ?
[15:18] <timri> df -h gives me 2.1GB used
[15:18] <wea> j'arrive à trouver le chat de ubuntu en français
[15:18] <lg188> bazhang nop
[15:18] <eagles0513875> flaccid: what u mean
[15:18] <timri> !fr
[15:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:18] <lg188> hallo
[15:18] <bazhang> timri: is that the install size? Thanks!
[15:18] <flaccid> you have interfaces sharing same ip, eagles0513875 ?
[15:19] <lg188> !nl
[15:19] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[15:19] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ? what u mean u can see my wifi
[15:19] <flaccid> no
[15:19] <spykedtomato> I'm having a problem with my keyboard (?) - when typing the response time sux - sometimes  up to three seconds to show the letters I typed. And sometimes the keys stick (I've tried three different keyboards, same story - other than that, my system runs FINE - help! :)
[15:19] <timri> bazhang: yeah, install+ all the crap I added later :)
[15:19] <eagles0513875> whats coming up wiht the same ip flaccid
[15:19] <flaccid> each network interface should have its own ip and mac address for fingerprinting
[15:19] <bazhang> timri: haha..cheers!
[15:19] <flaccid> dhcp can assign the same ip potentially...
[15:20] <eagles0513875> flaccid: im getting dhcp from my isp
[15:20] <flaccid> that could be the problem then if you are doing it on multiple devices
[15:20] <eagles0513875> flaccid: im only on a laptop
[15:20] <tei> can anyone help me set up multiple ssh keys for a single dns entry?
[15:20] <flaccid> what is the prob exactly eagles0513875
[15:21] <bazhang> spykedtomato: have you tried adjusting the kb in peripherals?
[15:21] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i have all my audio in wma lossless format in soundkonverter i dont have a wma encoder and i would like to use soundkonverter to convert all my audio to flac
[15:21] <eagles0513875> flaccid: for some reasoon when i try it it doesnt decode then reencode and i end up with a 0b file
[15:21] <flaccid> fux me man
[15:21] <flaccid> !codecs
[15:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:22] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i have the w64codecs already
[15:22] <spykedtomato> bazhang: nope - is that in the system settings?
[15:22] <eagles0513875> ffmpeg lame flac all of them
[15:22] <flaccid> im not sure if all of those components are actively supported
[15:22] <francesco_> Hi guys, I want amarok with shn file support. Is this combination possible ? I have Kubuntu 7.10 installed
[15:22] <flaccid> are you on 64bit processor, eagles0513875
[15:22] <flaccid> ?
[15:22] <Hydrogen> you can play shn files
[15:22] <Hydrogen> they just don't get added to the collection
[15:22] <bazhang> spykedtomato: in the kmenu, under peripheral is a listing for keyboard, you should be able to adjust it there, be sure to hit apply..
[15:22] <Hydrogen> because they have no metadata
[15:22] <francesco_> with amarok ?
[15:22] <Hydrogen> because they are stupid
[15:22] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ya an athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz
[15:23] <Hydrogen> You need to use the files browser
[15:23] <spykedtomato> bazhang: ummm - I can't find peripheral in the kmenu...?
[15:23] <flaccid> to be honest, i'm not sure eagles0513875. problem could be 64bit issue. its worked fine similar for me in the past on 32bit
[15:23] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i didnt have this problem in feisty 64bit
[15:24] <francesco_> If i try to open a shn files with dolphin, I have no action
[15:24] <flaccid> is this gutsy
[15:24] <flaccid> gutsy is shit...
[15:24] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ya it is gutsy
[15:24] <PriceChild> !ohmy | flaccid
[15:24] <ubotu> flaccid: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[15:24] <flaccid> ubuntu release pretty edgy crap
[15:24]  * flaccid looks at his own language for no reason
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: perhaps set up a 32bit chroot for it
[15:24] <lg188> how to instal 'warzone 2100' ?
[15:24] <eagles0513875> flaccid: not really for me im glad they fixed the wifi and open gl issues i used to have
[15:25] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ?
[15:26] <francesco_> Sorry Hydrogen, can you please repeat ?
[15:26] <Hydrogen> you can play shn files in amarok
[15:26] <Hydrogen> using the files tab
[15:26] <Hydrogen> the files are not added to the collection tab
[15:26] <Hydrogen> because shn is a stupid format
[15:26] <bazhang> spykedtomato: sorry about that, it should be in a sub-menu of Kmenu, along with language, mouse,etc--I just replaced the kmenu with kbfx, so can't look at the moment--just look in some of those sub-menus...:}
[15:26] <lg188> how to instal 'warzone 2100' ?:'sudo aptitude search warzone 2100' ?
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> !find warzone
[15:26] <ubotu> Found: warzone2100, warzone2100-data
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> lg188 no space in the name
[15:27] <bazhang> lg188: yes
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Its nice they included that game in the repos. :)
[15:27] <bazhang> sure is!
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install warzone2100
[15:27] <francesco_> OK I added an shn to amarok but I can haer only noise
[15:28] <bazhang> wow 392...this room is about to break!
[15:28] <Hydrogen> not likely to break
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> this is a slow day then
[15:28] <Hydrogen> 392 isn't that many
[15:28] <bazhang> haha
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen 10x that many on #ubuntu
[15:28] <bazhang> really?
[15:28] <bazhang> 3000?
[15:28] <Hydrogen> 10x is a bit of an exageration
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> I think there was over 3000 when it got released
[15:28] <bazhang> whoa
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> just the join/names listing took a while :)
[15:29] <bazhang> :}
[15:29] <lg188> Dr_Willis bazhang ty^^
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> 3000+ really messes with nickcompletion also. :)
[15:29] <bazhang> lg188: no problem--enjoy! :}
[15:29] <bazhang> I bet hahaha
[15:30] <eagles0513875> wow
[15:30] <lg188> wat isnatling first data ? or just the oher
[15:30] <lg188> other*
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> i doubt if the order matters much. :)
[15:31] <bazhang> lg188: sudo apt-get install warzone2100 warzone2100-data  followed by your password should  do it.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> id hope that just installing one would suggest/depend on the other.
[15:32] <xevious> coool
[15:32]  * xevious installs warzone 2100
[15:32] <lg188> bazhang cnat find the pachage
[15:32] <lg188> package*
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Then your repos are not all enabled.
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> !info warzone2100
[15:32] <ubotu> warzone2100: 3D real time strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0~0.svn1436-1 (gutsy), package size 678 kB, installed size 1752 kB
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Its in universe Hmm...
[15:33] <lg188> !info gutsy
[15:33] <ubotu> Package gutsy does not exist in gutsy
[15:33] <bazhang> lg188: you may want to close the terminal and open adept, then click repositories on the dropdown menu, followed by enabling the ones that are not yet enabled (canonical?)
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | lg188
[15:33] <ubotu> lg188: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:34] <lg188> ty^^
[15:36] <lg188> where finding shell scripting docu ?
[15:36] <bazhang> lg188: once you have enabled all the repositories, be sure to hit reload, then search for warzone2100.
[15:36] <Hydrogen> guugle
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> lg188 theres 100's of bash tutorials and guides out  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' is a must read
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> !info abs-guide
[15:36] <ubotu> abs-guide: The Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4332 kB
[15:37] <lg188> Dr_Willis ty ^^
[15:37] <lg188> bazhang wat to do ?
[15:37] <bazhang> have you enabled the repos?
[15:38] <lg188> repos in adept ? how ?
[15:38] <rickey> good morning everyone
[15:38] <bazhang> is adept open now?
[15:38] <lg188> morning ?
[15:38] <lg188> whztis you clock time ?
[15:38] <bazhang> lg188: is adept open now?
[15:38] <rickey> 1038 am
[15:38] <lg188> OWWKEY
[15:39] <Hydrogen> !info frostwire
[15:39] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[15:39] <lg188> yes bazhang
[15:39] <Hydrogen> !find frostwire
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !frostfire
[15:39] <Hydrogen> bawt!
[15:39] <ubotu> Package/file frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[15:39] <Hydrogen> wake up
[15:39] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[15:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> its not in the repos -  as far as i know
[15:39] <lg188> bazhang yep
[15:39] <lg188> bazhang its open
[15:40] <bazhang> lg188: under the heading adept, you should see 'manage repositories'. see it?
[15:41] <bazhang> lg188: adept, edit, view, settings, help at the top?
[15:41] <lg188> wiat bazhang
[15:42] <lg188> bazhang first wat is repos ?
[15:42] <rickey> is a person has audio files on there desktop in a file to it,s self and wishes to go into openoffice and organizes a list of hyperlinks pointing to scrept files tto pen ,audio files that is, is it possable?
[15:42] <lg188> bazhang i got a NL version and mayby translate it
[15:42] <bazhang> lg188: do you see the title bar, slightly below it are those five categories?
[15:42] <Jucato> categories = menus
[15:43] <bazhang> lg188: first one on the left, second in list.
[15:43] <bazhang> oops sorry, menus
[15:43] <lg188> kk
[15:43] <lg188> bazhang kk got it
[15:43] <rickey> if anyone know,s ,can they please annwser my question
[15:44] <bazhang> click on the one marked 'manage repositories' lg188
[15:44] <lg188> bazhang wat now
[15:44] <timri> rickey: Could you not try it out? (I would say yes, but dont know about the scripting part)
[15:44] <z1pp3r> Is it somehow possible to run .net applications in linux?
[15:44] <lg188> bazhang i ame in it
[15:44] <rickey> ok i have tryed it out
[15:44] <timri> z1pp3r: Yes, with mono
[15:45] <rickey>  but the proublem is that i cant open then to play with a hyperlink
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> !mono | z1pp3r
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <z1pp3r> timri, i've heard about mono, can't say it's been all good news though
[15:45] <timri> rickey: ah, ok
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info mono | z1pp3r
[15:45] <ubotu> z1pp3r: mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-6ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> z1pp3r: mono works really well processing .net apps
[15:45] <bazhang> lg188: are all of the four main ones enabled (check mark next to each)?
[15:45] <z1pp3r> WaltzingAlong, yeah? Thanks, i'll go check it out
[15:45] <timri> z1pp3r: so the answer is: yes... maybe (WinForms is afaik not yet complete)
[15:46] <z1pp3r> ok
[15:46] <z1pp3r> better than nothing
[15:46] <Jucato> !.net
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about net - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <Jucato> bah :P
[15:46] <lg188> wait please
[15:46] <timri> rickey: what if you save it as html page?
[15:46] <rickey> haaavent try that
[15:46] <rickey> just saved a doc
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> z1pp3r: yes winforms is the tricky part
[15:47] <rickey> savved as doc
[15:47] <timri> WaltzingAlong: as are the 3.0 improvements
[15:47] <lg188> bazhang ? i dont get it pleas wait a minute
[15:47] <rickey> think that mit work?
[15:47] <bazhang> lg188: no hurry.
[15:48] <rickey> i am just here picking brains
[15:48] <bazhang> lg188: after you have enabled those repositories, close that second window, and then in the main adept window, hit the button to the far left, labeled 'fetch updates'.
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> timri: right mono implements the ecma/iso standards of .net
[15:49] <timri> WaltzingAlong: It implements a whole lot more, iirc
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> right
[15:50] <rickey> hry  timri ,where can i go to learn more about what i am trying to do ,if this dont work?
[15:51] <lg188> bazhang owkey it din noxw to enable them
[15:52] <timri> rickey: Sorry, I have no idea. By the way: why did you set it up like that in the first place?
[15:52] <lg188> bazhang :i got it
[15:53] <lg188> bazhang :now ?
[15:53] <rickey> it was alan watt  audio,s i just put them on mu dest pot in  a file  didnt realizes the that wouldnt sort of right by date ,so now there all messed up
[15:54] <rickey> on my desktop
[15:54] <lg188> bazhang: hello ?
[15:54] <rickey> so i want to build some page to put them in order
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> rickey: sorry, I didn't her your problem....
[15:55] <lg188> kk rickey
[15:55] <lg188> i hope you get good help
[15:55] <timri> rickey: Ah, I understand. By the way, I just found out, you can rightclick on the link in OOWriter, than choose open hyperlink
[15:56] <lg188> bazhang not working yet
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong can you help me befor ...i got to go eat
[15:57] <rickey> yes put the hyperlink wont open the audio file and play it , it will open the file though
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: with?
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong warzone 2100
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> !info warzone2100 (dapper)
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong instaling
[15:57] <ubotu> Package warzone2100 does not exist in dapper
[15:58] <timri> rickey: Well it works here (and thanks to you I am listening to PodSafeChristmasSong.mp3 .... brrr)
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone 2100
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone 2100 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone2100
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone2100 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <rickey> well life ant easy sometime
[15:58] <rickey>  sorry
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you can /msg ubotu !info warzone2100
[15:59] <timri> rickey: In OOWriter I used the Insert menu, then hyperlink. Then the Document category, and then the path of your audio file in the path editbox... Easy :)
[15:59] <lg188> WaltzingAlong ty ^^ for tip
[16:00] <lg188> sven_
[16:01] <lg188> i think a have to go
[16:01] <lg188> helpme please
[16:01] <lg188> warzone 2100 install
[16:01] <bazhang> lg188: have you reloaded the updates yet?
[16:01] <idiotic> hello
[16:01] <eagles0513875> lg188: sudo apt-get install warzone2100
[16:01] <eagles0513875> it works for me fine i just tried it
[16:01] <idiotic> i need something similar to k3b since k3b doesnt work
[16:02] <lg188> bazhang yes
[16:02] <timri> idiotic: What doesnt work
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> about anything similer to k3b will be a front end to the command line tools.. its best to figure out whats not working
[16:02] <bazhang> and all the repositories are enabled? lg188
[16:02] <idiotic> when i open k3b
[16:02] <idiotic> it says malformed url
[16:02] <lg188> bazhang yes
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> try k3b from the terminal
[16:03] <bazhang> using dapper? edgy/gutsy?
[16:03] <lg188> it says : e: cant find teh package
[16:03] <idiotic> feist
[16:03] <idiotic> feisty
[16:03] <lg188> bazhang dapper
[16:03] <timri> idiotic: make sure (using kmenu editor) it reads k3b -caption "%c" %i %m
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> warzone2100 is NOT in the dapper repositories - i belive
[16:03] <bazhang> is warzone in dapper repos?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> !find warzone dapper
[16:03]  * lg188 brbr
[16:04] <ubotu> Package/file warzone does not exist in dapper
[16:04] <bazhang> oho.
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> they added a lot of new games in Gutsy
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> warzone, and RocksAndDiamonds
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> lots of others also
[16:04] <bazhang> yes. :} reason enough (to upgrade..cough cough)
[16:05] <eagles0513875> one thing im happy about opengl performance for my video card has really improved here in gutsy
[16:05]  * lg188 celybrating grandmothers birthday
[16:05] <idiotic> kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 93, expecting version 94 or higher.
[16:05] <idiotic> kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
[16:05] <idiotic> if i run it in console
[16:06] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: i cant find rocks and diamonds game u mentioned
[16:07] <lg188> it wodent work i ca'nt  be here for ... 2uu
[16:07] <lg188> 2houres
[16:07] <lg188> i stay online until lmy pc goes on sntandbeuy
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you need to find warzone2100 another way since it is not available in the ubuntu repositories for dapper
[16:07] <bazhang> lg188: sorry couldn't help get that game, though there are some other fun ones certainly.
[16:07] <timri> idiotic: tried kbuildsycoca ?
[16:08] <lg188> bazhang WaltzingAlong ty ^^~you can stay talking to me for 2H
[16:08] <idiotic> what is that
[16:09] <lg188> send mss in private
[16:09] <lg188> or in pastebin in mail in private
[16:09] <lg188> you can shoose
[16:09] <timri> idiotic: it build (or rebuilds) your cache.
[16:10] <timri> idiotic: And since yours seems to be broken...
[16:10] <idiotic> timri thank you very much
[16:10] <idiotic> its fixed
[16:12] <lg188> avp players on kubuntu may always contact me =) bey now
[16:12] <lg188> Alien vs. Perdator 2 reqiuem
[16:13] <kyron> Grah!...medibuntu unavailable :/
[16:14] <kyron> oh...wait...gpg key...forgot that
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:16] <bazhang> does wesnoth do online?
[16:17] <bazhang> err battle for wesnoth.
[16:17] <Tm_T> yes
[16:20] <bazhang> thanks Tm_T!
[16:21] <ronin_> Morning everyone
[16:21] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[16:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[16:22] <ronin_> Can anyone tell me about the version of the ATI FGLRX graphics driver on the repos versus the one  on the ATI homepage?
[16:22] <ronin_> It looks like the ATI-native one is an 8.xx and the one on the repos is a 7.xx
[16:23] <Xrafa> xDD
[16:23] <Xrafa> free xDDD
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> a new ati driver just  came out last week i think
[16:24] <ronin_> I think the latest one I saw from ATI direct was on the 26th... I'm a little wary of installing it, though it looks like it has a GUI?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> The old drivers had some sort of gui tool also i think. But i dont use ati anymore
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> !find fglrx
[16:25] <b1n42y> so much to learn about LINUX....but it still rocks!
[16:25] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[16:25] <ronin_> Ahhh. If I'm right, this new version supports Compiz-fusion and 3d  OpenGL performance, yes?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> !info fglrx-control
[16:25] <ubotu> fglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.9 (gutsy), package size 77 kB, installed size 348 kB
[16:26] <ronin_> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:26] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.9 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> ronin_ i hear it does.
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> without the need for the xgl stuff
[16:27] <ronin_> I'm guessing that the 7.1.0 = Ubuntu version, 8.37.6 = Driver version and 2.6.... = Kernal, yes?
[16:28] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[16:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:31] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[16:32] <ronin_> Thank you. I'm a little nervous about doing it manually
[16:33] <WaltzingAlong> ronin_: make a backup of your current working xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[16:33] <ksivaji> !ktorrent
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <WaltzingAlong> !info ktorrent
[16:33] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[16:35] <b1n42y> can anyone tell me how to access web history in konqueror.. ive tried the channel ive tried google... i hope its not a work in progress ?
[16:37] <guillermo> hi i keep geetting an error from winrar
[16:38] <martijn81> b1n42y: hit F9
[16:38] <guillermo> the utility unrar free is not in your path
[16:38] <b1n42y> cheers
[16:38] <guillermo> what to do?
[16:38] <kyron> What would be a good DVD player under kubuntu, ie: one that shows the menu and works by clicking on the options in that menu (something your grandma could use)
[16:39] <kyron> and Mplayer ain't it...believe me
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> using winrar with wine?
[16:39] <martijn81> kyron: kaffeine works nicely here
[16:39] <bazhang> kaffeine?
[16:39] <WaltzingAlong> b1n42y: it is there
[16:39] <guillermo> no no winrer
[16:40] <genii> b1n42y, Maybe look here: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=11717
[16:40] <guillermo> my mistake
[16:40] <guillermo> ark
[16:40] <b1n42y> yeah i found it F9 then theres an icon on the left thanks
[16:41] <guillermo> ark gives me an error, the utility is not in yourpath, anyideas?
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> For ark to use rar stuff.. the rar utilities must be instralled
[16:43] <guillermo> Dr willis how do i do that?
[16:43] <jpatrick> !apt
[16:43] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> with the package manager tool. search for 'rar' and install teh rar tools
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[16:43] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[16:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:43] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if rar is in the ubuntu-restricted-extras  package or not
[16:44] <b1n42y> martijn81: WaltzingAlong genii    thanks .... annoying when i cant do the simple things i used to....learning curve is POW.... but I'm not going back to winblows
[16:47] <armin> i have a nob queston
[16:47] <armin> i
[16:48] <jpatrick> armin: those are our speciality
[16:48] <bazhang> :}
[16:49] <bazhang> !nixternal
[16:49] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[16:50] <dougb> does anyone know why i would be able to get online with firefox, but not konquer?
[16:50] <armin_> the sound is a bit crapy on my laptop... not always just when i play games like soldier of fortune or whatewer like that
[16:50] <jpatrick> dougb: do you have a proxy?
[16:51] <jpatrick> !sound
[16:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:51] <travis> Xevious you there?
[16:51] <armin__> thx
[16:52] <travis> anyone using the ATI HD Radeon 2600XT graphics card?
 hey, im a real life friend of Subtrnl and he said that you are using basically the same system as me and i was wondering if you might be able to help me
[16:54] <kyron> martijn81, thanks
[16:58] <genii> I saw also a fix for some games which use OpenAL (I'm not sure if Soldier of Fortune is one), which is: echo "(define devices '(oss))" > ~`/.openalrc
[17:01] <ksivaji> !nVidia
[17:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> I'm having some serious trouble here. Everyone on my subnet can do this command: mount -t nfs 192.168.7.30:/scratch /mnt  however when I try it I get the error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.7.30:/scratch, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[17:02] <o3yx> anybody now to uninstall edubuntu..
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> this started when I updated from 704 to 710 on kubuntu
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> dmesg doesn't say anything about it..
[17:03] <WaltzingAlong> !nfs
[17:03] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[17:03] <Kr4t05> Okay, Amarok doesn't like my DAP, for some reason. I have an iAudio F2, which supports Ogg Vorbis. However, Amarok won't beleive me when I tell it so, and still refuses to sync Ogg tracks to it.
[17:03] <proprietarysucks> it worked beofre upgrading
[17:04] <Hydrogen> Kr4t05: yea, lots of people have had that problem recently.. we got a bug report about it but no one has figured out why its doing it yet
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> so fix it
[17:05] <Hydrogen> who was that to?
[17:05] <Kr4t05> Would it have something to do with the fact that, in the format list in my player's preference's dialog, ogg is preceded by an ampersand (&)
[17:05] <proprietarysucks> oh, there it goes.. aparently updating to 710 removes nfs common
[17:05] <proprietarysucks> thanks that was easy
[17:05] <Hydrogen> Kr4t05: yes
[17:05] <Hydrogen> it would
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> cheers!
[17:05] <Hydrogen> we arn't sure why its getting there though, so it hasn't yet been fixed
[17:06] <Kr4t05> Alright.
[17:06] <Kr4t05> I guess I'll just have to go with the MP3 feed of LAS.
[17:11] <Kr4t05> Netsplit!
[17:12] <Tm_T> Kr4t05: no there not
[17:13]  * genii sips a coffee and looks for his Nicorettes
[17:16] <ksivaji> genii hi boss
[17:16]  * genii hands ksivaji a large coffee
[17:17] <ksivaji> genii now its time to sleep
[17:17] <ksivaji> you wnat me to have coffee ?
[17:17] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji is this that person
[17:18] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya
[17:18] <ksivaji> genii  Vanniarajan is my friend classmate
[17:18] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan sup3kiddo is working for openmoko
[17:18] <kyron> I just installed kaffeine and I am getting : "no plugin found to handle resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)
[17:19] <ksivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[17:19] <ksivaji> kyron what type of file you are trying to play
[17:20] <kyron> a DVD
[17:20] <ksivaji> extension
[17:20] <ksivaji> !dvd
[17:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:20] <kyron> ksivaji, it's installed...
[17:20] <kyron> do I have to reboot (heheheh)
[17:20] <ksivaji> kyron  i dont think you need to reboot
[17:20]  * genii hands Vanniarajan a coffee also
[17:20] <kyron> ksivaji, I was kidding
[17:21] <pag> kyron, do you have libxine-extracodes and/or w32codecs installed?
[17:21] <ksivaji> kyron search in google with these same pattern "no plugin found to handle resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)"
[17:21] <ksivaji> pag hi
[17:21] <pag> libxine-extracodecs that is, sorry.
[17:21] <pag> ksivaji, hey :)
[17:21] <Vanniarajan> genni thank u
[17:22] <genii> Sorry for lag... Xchat doesn't highlight channel name like Konversation did when someone is mentioning/talking to you,  takes a bit of getting used to
[17:22] <ksivaji> genii same for me also
[17:22] <ksivaji> but i have konversation
[17:22] <pag> genii, umm... iirc it did that a few versions ago?
[17:22] <Vanniarajan> genni ya it takes. i'm new to this community
[17:22] <kyron> pag, no I don't (libxine...), and it doesn't show up in synbaptic
[17:22] <kyron> synaptic
[17:23] <pag> !repos | kyron
[17:23] <ubotu> kyron: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:23] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan for you also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:23] <genii> pag: I looked briefly in Settings etc but it was not obvious where/how to set that. I can live without it for now :)
[17:23] <pag> kyron, you'll need multiverse for extracodecs and "Seveas" or medibuntu for w32codecs
[17:23] <kyron> pag, I have the repos that gave me w32, acroread and all...
[17:23] <kyron> so it would be in another one?
[17:24] <pag> kyron, multiverse.
[17:24] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan enable unive and multive
[17:24] <ksivaji> !repos
[17:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:24] <kyron> pag, ah...better edit the file direcly then
[17:24] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji i'll ask abt codecs in detail some other day
[17:24] <pag> !info libxine-extracodecs
[17:24] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy
[17:24] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ok
[17:25] <kyron> pag, hahahahahah
[17:25]  * pag is confused - ubotu disagrees with my apt
[17:25] <ksivaji> pag genii knetworkmanager is not working in gutsy do you know anything about thsi
[17:25] <ksivaji> this *
[17:26] <pag> kyron, try libxine1-ffmpeg instead :)
[17:26] <kyron> pag heheh
[17:26]  * pag doesn't like package renames :(
[17:26] <genii> ksivaji, I've heard it has problems showing wifi connections. I have no firsthand knowledge, my adapters are all wired type.
[17:27] <ksivaji> no mine is wired connection
[17:27] <michele__> ciao
[17:27] <michele__> weila
[17:27] <michele__> tutto bene
[17:27] <michele__> qualcuno chatta con me
[17:27] <genii> pag, Someone perhaps BluesKaj was saying only revcently about the ffmpeg changes
[17:27] <kyron> éme thinks he should have installed kubuntu, take notes, and replicate the packages with Gentoo...heheheh
[17:27] <michele__> parlate italiano
[17:27] <pag> !it | michele__
[17:27] <ubotu> michele__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:28] <genii> ksivaji, does command:  ifconfig      show a device besides lo device? eg: eth0 eth1 wlan0   or such
[17:29] <ksivaji> genii http://pastebin.com/f25d546e0
[17:30] <genii> back
[17:30] <genii> ksivaji, OK, reading
[17:31] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: opera doesn't support flashplayer?
[17:31] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan no i will support
[17:32] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan google "how to install flashplayer for  opera  in ubuntu "
[17:32] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: that's of no use. now installing firefox for such sites
[17:32] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan even in firefox you need flash plugin
[17:33] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: i downloaded flashplayer. in installation, it said: "opera not supported"
[17:33] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan wait
[17:34] <ksivaji> genii but knetworkmanager icon show i am disconnected and dhcp is not working
[17:34] <genii> ksivaji, I am looking into the problem.
[17:34] <ksivaji> genii ok ok
[17:35] <genii> ksivaji Since ity's not one i have on my system, i need googling etc to see what might be the cause in your case :)
[17:36] <ksivaji> genii many users same problem what i have
[17:37] <abcd> Hello, when i launched amule for a first time  today, a window "Connect to remote amule" appeared. What should I type into "Connect to" box? / Sorry for my english
[17:37] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan http://my.opera.com/lounge/forums/topic.dml?id=189210
[17:39] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: saw it
[17:39] <w8tah|class> I notice in some of the kubuntu docs / site that the KDE 4 packages are out in beta -- how stable are they and are they worth the risk for production use?
[17:39] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan is it working now
[17:39] <ksivaji> just go through that page
[17:39] <genii> ksivaji, try: sudo dhclient eth0           then attempt to run knetworkmanager by: alt-f2 then put knetworkmanager     there and see if it operates
[17:40]  * genii sips a coffee and ponders if kdesu knetworkmanager
[17:40] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: i'll see it later. but hope it will work
[17:41] <ksivaji> genii http://pastebin.com/f7c40613c
[17:41] <genii> w8tah|class, I would not recommend for production use
[17:41] <w8tah|class> Ok - thanks
[17:42] <ksivaji> w8tah|class try ubuntu-dev
[17:42] <ksivaji> w8tah|class try #ubuntu-dev
[17:42] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: need a help
[17:42] <genii> ksivaji, did knetworkmanager run after that?
[17:43] <w8tah|class> ksivaji ok -- thanks
[17:43] <lovre> hi
[17:44] <ksivaji> genii ya i starts as soon as i can see desktop but always shows disconnected
[17:44] <ksivaji> now too
[17:44] <lovre> can some1 help me set up an C IDE and compiler in kubuntu? or can you direct me to a channel where i can get help with this
[17:44] <genii> No immediate ideas then
[17:44] <ksivaji> i am disconnected it says" No active device"
[17:44] <ksivaji> lovre sudo apt-get install g++
[17:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info kdevelop | lovre
[17:45] <ubotu> lovre: kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 8840 kB, installed size 26992 kB
[17:45] <Minnozz> anybody knows why 'pand --connect 00:19:63:FA:62:63 --ethernet bnep0' doesn't create a network interface for my bluetooth dongle?
[17:45]  * ksivaji kate is best 
[17:45] <genii> lovre, Kdevelop is a not-bad IDE. underneath the compiling is normally done by the gcc and so on installed by package build-essential
[17:45] <lovre> ksivaji: but it doesnt debug...
[17:46] <genii> My mouse is acting up. AFK a minute or so
[17:46] <lovre> genii: could i use Eclipse or something like that?
[17:46] <genii> !info eclipse
[17:46] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[17:46] <ksivaji>  Eclipse suck more RAM
[17:46] <jpatrick> lovre: it does do debug
[17:46] <genii> lovre, As you can see it's Java-centric
[17:47] <kyron> I doubt the reported sizes ;P
[17:47] <lovre> genii: what is java centric? kdevelop?
[17:47] <genii> lovre: no, Eclipse
[17:47] <lovre> genii: i see. So in kdevelop i can develop C, C++ and Python applications? That is what i need
[17:48] <Tm_T> yes
[17:48] <genii> Yes
[17:48] <Tm_T> genii: yes
[17:48]  * genii hands Tm_T a coffee
[17:48] <lovre> genii: does it have its own compilers or do i install them separatelly?
[17:48] <Tm_T> lovre: gcc is your friend
[17:48] <Tm_T> and friends
[17:49] <lovre> Tm_T: gcc is a compiler for C and C++?
[17:49] <genii> lovre, As i stated earlier, the compiler installed by package build-essential (normally gcc)
[17:49] <Tm_T> etc
[17:49] <Tm_T> lovre: there's full family of GNU compilers
[17:49] <genii> You can specifically install g++
[17:50] <lovre> so i install gcc and Kdevelop and im all ready to write code?
[17:50] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: gcc and a text editor you are ready
[17:50] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: were you expecting visual studio?
[17:51] <lovre> not really
[17:51] <Dr_willis> for developing kde apps thers some kde -dev pakcages you will proberly want also.
[17:51] <lovre> WaltzingAlong: And how do i use gcc to compile my code?
[17:51] <WaltzingAlong> man gcc
[17:51] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: may be worth learning about some of the autobuild tools
[17:51] <genii> lovre, Basically yes, Kdevelop and gcc (which is in build-essential along with some other useful build tools)
[17:52] <WaltzingAlong> could be as simple as gcc source.c
[17:54] <lovre> WaltzingAlong: i never used linux to develop anything, i just installed it for the first time a few weeks ago. So excuse my noobness... when i compile my C++ code, what is the output i get? Binary executable (no extension?), could you explain a bit. And also, can i develop applications for windows? I know i can with Python
[17:55] <Dr_willis> linux dosent need extensions
[17:55] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: then you could have a simple c++ file say hello.cpp, g++ hello.cpp   and the output would default to a.out with the exec bit set. so to run that ./a.out but of course you can rename it to anything you like
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Python is a good tool for cross platform tools. Java is also.
[17:55] <poison--> how sweet, virtualbox comes with it
[17:55] <poison--> hi Dr_Willis
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Howdies.
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.crasseux.com/books/ctutorial/ - one link to get started
[17:56] <poison--> supo
[17:56] <Dr_willis> about work time for me.
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/gcc/gcc_toc.html - second
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.faqs.org/docs/learnc/index.html - three
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: choose your guide
[17:57] <ubunturos> lovre: I had written a complete newbie guide to using GCC, but unfortunately, that server is down, so you don't have a quickguide now :(
[17:57] <genii> Kdevelop also has extensive documentation off of the main KDE website
[18:00] <genii> http://techbase.kde.org/Development           "Programming Tutorials" etc
[18:02] <ubunturos> genii: that's specific to KDE
[18:02] <jpatrick> u
[18:02] <genii> ubunturos, A good starting point.
[18:03] <jpatrick> ubunturos: they'll all get there in the end (hopefully)
[18:03] <ubunturos> jpatrick: :)
[18:03] <ubunturos> lovre: start with C++ and python :) (you'll have a book in Help -> Scrollkeeper) for python :)
[18:04] <genii> The "development tools" part has much on kdevelop which applies to whatever you are programming with it
[18:04] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: r u there?
[18:04]  * jpatrick still can't decide between Python and Ruby
[18:04] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya
[18:05] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: every day ur work is this?
[18:05] <sven_> Hi there, I just installed aircrack, and I need to patch my bcm43xx driver.. Im doing that right now with helpl from a website (http://tinyshell.be/aircrackng/forum/index.php?topic=2045.0) but it requires a modules recompile, and then a sudo make modules_install..
[18:05] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan in this means
[18:05] <sven_> is this not going to overwrite the kernel modules that already exist?
[18:05] <ubunturos> jpatrick: watch Youtube Commercials ;)
[18:05] <sven_> as in, is this not going to cause problems like a dead machine?
[18:05] <jpatrick> ubunturos: eh?
[18:05] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya i will be available in this channel
[18:05] <jpatrick> pardon*
[18:06] <ubunturos> jpatrick: just kidding. There's a lot of videos floating on YouTube supporting Ruby over PHP, Python etc.
[18:06] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: ok catch u later, leaving!
[18:06] <jpatrick> ubunturos: my problems is that there are things in each language that I like but the other doesn't have it
[18:06] <ubunturos> Vanniarajan: bye :) ;)
[18:07] <ubunturos> jpatrick: umm
[18:07] <jpatrick> and I want to stick with one of them
[18:07] <alesan> hi how do I configure the external monitor I attached to my laptop? now it merely clones the primary display
[18:07] <alesan> I heard in 7.10 there was a tool to configure everything "on the fly"
[18:08] <lovre> ubunturos: thank you. I allready programming in Python, but on Windows. And i used to programm in C++ and C, also in windows. So i hope ill get familiar with programming under linux fairly quick
[18:09] <timgelvin> something weird happened when I turned on my computer... all the fonts sizes changed to something so small I could barely read the text
[18:09] <jpatrick> lovre: it's not that difficult, you just need to learn what goes on under-the-hood
[18:10] <timgelvin> is there something I can do to change all the fonts back to the original size
[18:10] <timgelvin> I'm using 7.10
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Gar...
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Now conky hates me. :'(
[18:16] <ubunturos> lovre: yes, if you weren't too specific on tools that you used in Windows
[18:17] <lovre> ubunturos: i get an warning msgbox when starting kdevelop, just a sec, ill paste a link in a sec
[18:17] <ubunturos> lovre: I haven't tried KDevelop and I'm not much used to IDEs on Kubuntu
[18:17] <ubunturos> lovre: you might have to direct your question to #kubuntu-devel
[18:18] <lovre> ubunturos: ok, thanx
[18:18]  * ubunturos has to leave and reboot his machine
[18:18] <Kr4t05> Everytime I click on the desktop, conky disappears.
[18:19] <ksivaji> is there anyway find recently deleted file
[18:20] <ksivaji> i just deleted a file when i was trying to clear  download list in opera
[18:23] <kreib> whats up with my kubuntu 710 install , cpu is at constnantly working at 98 % !?
[18:23] <eudemus> I assume that the trash bin is too obvious a place to look, ksivaji! Other than that - no idea. Perhaps try strigi desktop search?
[18:25] <eudemus> My question: how do I set the screen resolution for KDE desktop. It appears to be correct (or at least acceptable)  in BIOS, grub, and x server, but as soon as I am logged in, my widescreen disappears. Everything in System Settings > Monitor & Display seems right, but the actual resolution I'm getting isn't. Any ideas, anyone?
[18:26] <icewaterman> i have a permission problem with my scanner. root has access to it but the user does not. there is a udev rule that should put the scanner into group "scanner" and my user is part of that group but still cannot access the scanner
[18:27] <ksivaji> eudemus its not there in trash
[18:28] <angasule> !flash
[18:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:29] <eudemus> Sorry, then, ksivaji - afsos hai I've no better idea (did you try desktop search?)
[18:30] <DaSkreech> kreib: What's making it do that?
[18:34] <kreib> thats what I want to know!
[18:34] <kreib> the gkrellm monitor says cpu is at 98% constantly
[18:35] <DaSkreech> kreib: press Ctrl+Esc or run top and tell me what process is doing that
[18:37] <eviljames> I'm using the 7.04 install cd as a live cd, is there any way to force konqueror to invoke the "get flash player" wizard?
[18:37] <FOAD> Hi.
[18:37] <FOAD> Does anyone know where konsole keeps its settings?  Every time I log in again it goes back to the defaults, even though I have saved the settings.
[18:37] <kreib> Xorg eats the most with a maximum  55 %, then kicker
[18:38] <kreib> so its somwthing wrong with the process Xorg ?
[18:38] <lovre> i have problems with more than a few applications. When i restart the application or computer, on the application startup, instead of loading its icon in the tray, the application loads its icon in a very small window in the upper left corner of my screen. I cant get it to tray in any way. It happens with konversation as i speak:........ any help with this?
[18:41] <Sanne> FOAD: I'm finding for konsole: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/ (which is empty here)
[18:41] <FOAD> Sanne: ok.. lame question, but which permissions should konsolerc have?
[18:41] <Sanne> FOAD: looking...
[18:41] <lovre> what is the difference between running kdevelop from all these options in kmenu (there is kdevelop for c, for ruby etc, but when i opet, its allways the same)
[18:42] <Sanne> FOAD: ls -l konsolerc gives me: -rw------- 1 sanne sanne 870 2007-08-12 22:34 konsolerc
[18:43] <FOAD> Ok..
[18:43] <FOAD> that's not it then..
[18:44] <phnom> Anyone else here that gets graphical artifacts when using the latest fglrx-driver?
[18:44] <Sanne> FOAD: how do you save your configuration? I just did a "Settings->Save as Default" after customizing, and it works.
[18:44] <DaSkreech> kreib: No Xorg normally takes up like 20-40% of my CPU
[18:44] <DaSkreech> Kicker?
[18:44] <DaSkreech> Kicker isn't supposed to do that
[18:44] <FOAD> Sanne: That's what I did.
[18:44] <DaSkreech> lovre: All systray applications ?
[18:45] <FOAD> The troubles started after I moved /home to its own partition.
[18:45] <kreib> Xorg is at 52, kicker is at 25 %
[18:45] <DaSkreech> kreib: now you added anything to kicker?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> It's not supposed to take that much. that would likely be the problem
[18:46] <kreib> how will I know?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Did you add anything to it?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Applets? new systray ?
[18:46] <lovre> DaSkreech: not all, well, all but not at the same time. Sometimes its Penguin, somethimes its Clipper, sometimes Konversation, sometimes Ktorrent..... yout get my point
[18:46] <Sanne> FOAD: weird. What I did was basically set another font and turn off menubar and tabbar, and those customizations stuck. What did you change? I can try also and see if it works here (I'm on Dapper btw, not Gutsy)
[18:47] <DaSkreech> lovre: but you do have a systray though ?
[18:47] <lovre> DaSkreech: yes, and there are applications sitting in it
[18:47] <kreib> No, dont think I have added anything
[18:47] <FOAD> Just changed the scheme to black on white, but as I said it worked fine until I did the /home migration
[18:47] <DaSkreech> lovre: Well that kills my main theory :)
[18:47] <lovre> DaSkreech: :D
[18:48] <DaSkreech> kreib: try killing kicker and restarting it
[18:48] <DaSkreech> see if it grabs the same amount of CPU time
[18:48] <Sanne> FOAD: oh, yes, I also have that scheme set (forgot). If the problem is the /home migration, other programs should also have problems with their configs. Can you test that?
[18:49] <eudemus> Anybody got any suggestions about my screen resolution problems. Normally getting xorg.conf right solves things, but the problem here is that it's right prior to login and then the resolution used *after* login is incorrect.
[18:49] <ScorpKing> "Device 'dock.0' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed
[18:49] <ScorpKing> does someone know how to fix that? ^^
[18:49] <lovre> i can see all the documentation in kdevelop by contents, but i cant open most of them. Do i need to install something or is it just another bug?
[18:49] <FOAD> Sanne: yes well I also have problems with kicker.
[18:50] <kreib> yes, grabs the same after restart + plus bottom panel didnt restore properly
[18:50] <FOAD> I set the number of desktops to 1, but it keeps going back to 2 after logging in again
[18:50] <genii> FOAD, when you migrated the /home did you make sure to preserve permissions?
[18:51] <FOAD> I just re-logged in, and again konsole is white on black, although /home/dok/.kde/share/config/konsolerc has BlackonWhite
[18:51] <kreib> process kwin and kdesktop and gkrellm grabs about 20 % each, somethings not right...
[18:51] <FOAD> genii: I probably screwed up in that
[18:51] <poison--> <ScorpKing, sup
[18:52] <poison--> genii :D
[18:52] <poison--> peeps
[18:52] <FOAD> I followed http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome LITERALLY
[18:52] <ScorpKing> hiya poison--! not much. ;)
[18:52] <poison--> havin issues with virtualbox and USB atm
[18:52] <FOAD> But after rebooting some of my dirs, like the .whatever ones, were empty
[18:52] <poison--> damn
[18:52] <FOAD> so I did a regular cp after that... :/
[18:52] <poison--> think i got it tho
[18:52]  * genii hands poison a coffee
[18:52] <ksivaji> genii for me
[18:53]  * ScorpKing kicks genii..
[18:53]  * genii hands everyone a coffee!
[18:53]  * ksivaji sets a ban on ScorpKing 
[18:53] <genii> :0
[18:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:53] <ScorpKing> ty genii. :-D
[18:54] <genii> FOAD, Anyhow, you would want to do something like: cp -pR /dirname         /destination           to recursively copy with permissions intact
[18:54] <FOAD> :/
[18:55] <FOAD> But the permissions of every dir and down to konsolerc are rw(x) for user?
[18:55]  * DaSkreech hands genii a McDonalds cup of coffee
[18:55] <The_Machine> how do i know where perl is installed?
[18:55] <genii> FOAD since your curent username seems to be dok then you might want to:   sudo chown dok:dok /home/dok
[18:55] <KalEl> The_Machine: which perl
[18:56] <The_Machine> KalEl, it isn't specific..  it just asks me where perl is installed :)
[18:56] <The_Machine> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=905
[18:56] <lovre> i cant get kdevelop to build a hello world application, i get this error: "font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ><
[18:56] <ScorpKing> genii: -R as well :P
[18:56] <KalEl> The_Machine: no no i meant type "which perl" in konsole :)
[18:56] <The_Machine> bastard
[18:56] <The_Machine> haha
[18:56] <lovre> sorry, this error: C compiler cannot create executables
[18:57] <ScorpKing> !build-essensial
[18:57] <FOAD> genii: I did that, but that's how the perms already were
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build-essensial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <FOAD> I.e. nothing changed.
[18:57] <ScorpKing> someone?
[18:57] <ScorpKing> ^^
[18:57] <stdin> !be
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <genii> FOAD, with -R will be recursive also (I omitted by mistake)
[18:57] <stdin> hmm
[18:57] <stdin> install "build-essential" :)
[18:57] <KalEl> :)
[18:58] <ScorpKing> ty stdin :D
[18:58] <ScorpKing> lovre: <stdin> install "build-essential" :)
[18:58] <lovre> ScorpKing: it is allready installed
[18:58] <KalEl> after i switched to kubuntu i've never seen the prompt for upgrading packages... i'm now beginning to wonder if the system is working correctly
[18:58] <FOAD> I'll try that.
[18:59] <_buz> KalEl: try starting adept_notifier
[18:59] <genii> FOAD, what you can do to rebuild the .kde dir etc etc is to logoff to kdm, then go to terminal by ctrl-alt-f1 and sudo rm -R /home/dok/.kde     then back to kdm with alt-f7 and login where it should rebuild and recreate whatever was in there
[19:00] <KalEl> _buz: nothing seems to happen
[19:00] <_buz> i would rename rather than remove .kde
[19:00] <stdin> !build-essential is <alias> compiling
[19:00] <FOAD> Let's try.
[19:01] <genii> FOAD, as _buz suggests you can do instead sudo mv /home/dok/.kde /home/dok/.oldkde                      or similar
[19:01] <ScorpKing> lovre: i think you need gcc or g++ or something like that. still looking..
[19:02] <stdin> build-essential installs both
[19:02] <raindog> Konqueror won't load any webpages unless I disable the cache.  What is up with that?
[19:02] <ScorpKing> raindog: using some kind of dailup?
[19:03] <raindog> ScorpKing: Yes, dialup.  :(
[19:03] <FOAD> genii: you nailed it, excellent.  Thank you.
[19:04] <ScorpKing> raindog: you need an active network connection like eth0 for dns to work in konq and some other kde apps like Akregator.
[19:05] <raindog> ScorpKing: Really?  Is this a new thing?  My previous installation worked fine without disabling the cache.
[19:05] <ScorpKing> raindog: setup eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces and it should be ok
[19:05] <FOAD> Another question... in Feisty, upon going into X, my external drives would be present.  This is no longer so in my (fresh) Gutsy install.  I have to do something like plug in a drive to have them all show up at once.  Can I change this?
[19:05] <lovre> ScorpKing: i installed gcc
[19:05] <raindog> ScorpKing: Thanks for the help.
[19:06] <KalEl> can i see a graphical dependency chart for my installed packages?
[19:06] <ScorpKing> raindog: there is /etc/ppp/* where all the files are kept for dailup. seems like konq doesn't use that. i'm still trying to figure out what is going on.
[19:07] <raindog> ScorpKing: Thanks.  You've been quite helpful.
[19:07] <genii> FOAD, glad to help
[19:07] <ScorpKing> raindog: adding replacedefaultroute to /etc/ppp/options seems to help as well.
[19:07] <ScorpKing> raindog: you're welcome
[19:08] <genii> FOAD, the uuid for the drives has likely changed during the installations
[19:08] <ScorpKing> lovre: is it working now?
[19:11] <idiotic> what i need to install tcl via apt-get? the name of the file i mean
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: no. Im giving up for today, im too tired, worked whole day------ goto sleep
[19:11] <genii> FOAD, what you can do is output the curent uuid's as the system now sees them (when all drives are plugged in etc) by: sudo blkid       then compare the output to what is in the /etc/fstab and make changes accordingly if neccesary. Also may be the uuid in there are correct but that the option auto may now be noauto instead
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: thank you for your trouble
[19:11] <aztyx> hi
[19:11] <ScorpKing> lovre: np. come back tomorrow. ;)
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: :D
[19:11] <aztyx> can someone tell me how i install steam on a kubuntu wine desctop
[19:11] <idiotic> E: Package tcl has no installation candidate
[19:12] <aztyx> i know how but where do i install
[19:12] <genii> Sorry for lag, getting yanked away every 30 secs or so for work here
[19:12]  * FOAD looks.
[19:12] <FOAD> They're not in fstab at all but I don't recall them being in there before either.
[19:12] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Try in #winehq
[19:13] <FOAD> Still your idea seems logical, I'll try it.
[19:13] <DaSkreech> Hi DShepherd
[19:13] <FOAD> Thanks once again genii. :)
[19:13] <DShepherd> hey DaSkreech
[19:13] <ScorpKing> idiotic: sudo aptitude search tcl
[19:13] <KalEl> When I try to choose best server in "Manage Repositories" in adept, the dialog box just closes and nothing happens
[19:13] <DaSkreech> genii: 30 secs of work. sweet :)
[19:13] <idiotic> ScorpKing thanx i never new of aptitude
[19:13] <genii> FOAD, it is preferable to have disks mounted by uuid and not by devname eg: /dev/sdX or so because when you have multiple drives, the first plugged in becomes for instance /dev/sda1 but the uuid will remain constant
[19:14] <ScorpKing> idiotic: it's usefull. :)
[19:14] <genii> DaSkreech, Well mainly it is shuttling them up in the elevator LOL
[19:14] <FOAD> Okay.
[19:14] <idiotic> ScorpKing its exactly what i wanted :)
[19:14] <ScorpKing> lol @ genii.
[19:15] <ScorpKing> idiotic: np
[19:15] <aztyx> can someone tell me where i do install steam with wine? the automaticly directory is c:\Program Files\Steam but that can be right with kubuntu or?
[19:15] <FOAD> An UUID belongs to a drive, not a partition, right?
[19:15] <genii> FOAD, so if in /etc/fstab there is an entry like /dev/sda1 /mountpoint fstype     etc etc    the /dev part becomes replaced by: UUID="uuidstuffhere"
[19:15] <genii> FOAD, uuid can be entire drive or a subpartition also
[19:15] <ScorpKing> aztyx: look it /home/you/.wine/
[19:15] <SudoKing> except don't type "uuidstuffhere"
[19:16] <genii> SudoKing, LOL
[19:16] <SudoKing> i wonder what that would do anyway....
[19:16] <genii> FOAD, where i put uuidstuff   of course you want to replace with real UUID for that device as shown by sudo blkid
[19:16] <FOAD> Okay, because fstab has an UUID for /, but /home is only identified by /dev/sda3
[19:16] <ScorpKing> hi SudoKing
[19:16] <FOAD> Understood.
[19:17] <aztyx> plz can someone help me? sry if i sound like a n00b but its my first time linux
[19:17] <SudoKing> hi Scorpy Snorpy
[19:17] <genii> FOAD At any rate, you get the idea
[19:18] <FOAD> Yes, thank you again for your great help. :)
[19:18] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: what is your problem?
[19:18] <aztyx> can someone tell me where i do install steam with wine? the automaticly directory is c:\Program Files\Steam but that can be right with kubuntu or?
[19:18]  * ScorpKing wonders if he should b#@%slap SudoKing today..
[19:18] <aztyx> im gonn install steam with wine
[19:18]  * SudoKing thinks Scorpy is too nice to do that...
[19:18] <aztyx> but i dont know where to install it. the directory
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: sry, im not a gamer but the wine directory is ~/.wine/drive_c/....
[19:19]  * genii sips a coffee and waits for the third triplet SudoScorp to arrive
[19:19] <aztyx> okok
[19:19]  * ScorpKing give SudoKing a cookie instead..
[19:19]  * SudoKing laughs at Genii
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: copying from windows install?
[19:19] <aztyx> no im installing now
[19:19] <genii> SudoKing, ;)
[19:19] <aztyx> with a installer
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: oh...
[19:19] <aztyx> why?
[19:20] <aztyx> if i copy from a windows install would it work? in case i got friend on lan
[19:20] <aztyx> im on a lan;D
[19:20] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: just wondering, because if it was copied from windows, then you C:\ == ~/.wine/drive_c
[19:20] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: google 'steam ubuntu howto'
[19:20] <aztyx> ok
[19:20] <aztyx> ty
[19:21] <DrakeJustice_> yup
[19:21] <aztyx> im new on linux but it feels like im not a newb om it
[19:21] <aztyx> on it*
[19:21] <aztyx> learning fast
[19:21] <SudoKing> well, that's because linux > windows
[19:22] <aztyx> ?
[19:22] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Welcome to Kubuntu
[19:22] <aztyx> Thank toy
[19:22] <aztyx> Thank You
[19:23] <aztyx> Were on lan and everybody whine cuse they want to play
[19:23] <aztyx> but i love kubuntu anyawy
[19:23] <aztyx> anyway*
[19:24] <SudoKing> yep
[19:25] <DaSkreech> aztyx: play what?
[19:25] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: when you get used to tux you'll love it...
[19:25]  * genii sips a coffee and waits for head-to-head lan version of TuxRacer
[19:27] <aztyx> hehe ok
[19:27] <aztyx> im playing cs
[19:27] <KalEl> When I try to choose best server in "Manage Repositories" in adept, the dialog box just closes and nothing happens
[19:27] <aztyx> daskreech: you?
[19:27] <aztyx> im on a guide now and they say to download gecko
[19:28] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Don't they have a LInux CS server ?
[19:28] <genii> KalEl, make sure you are in Administrator mode
[19:28] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: gecko is a program that you never see, that helps CS run
[19:28] <DaSkreech> genii: You too?
[19:28] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: it helps most windows programs actually... good to have it on your wine drive
[19:28] <KalEl> who is tux?
[19:29] <KalEl> !tux
[19:29] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[19:29] <aztyx> what?
[19:29] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: check out 'google ies4linux' for internet explorer on your wine drive, that fixes alot of wine issues
[19:29] <genii> DaSkreech, I'm not playing CounterStrike LOL
[19:29] <aztyx> ok
[19:30] <aztyx> but. now on the installer i cant change from the c: directory
[19:30] <DaSkreech> genii: No there are no networked driving games on Linux
[19:30] <carwash^> Hi I'm trying to edit my acpi-scripts specially volupbtn and voldownbtn to raise and lower the volume with greater resolution. Unforunately i dan't understand how the (very simple) scripts actually control the volume. Does anybody know?
[19:30] <DaSkreech> Much less any good ones
[19:30] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: where are you trying to install it?
[19:30] <aztyx> so i cant install iwhout windows?
[19:30] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: ???
[19:30] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, maybe kart rider runs with wine? Havent tried
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: C:\ == ~/.wine/drive_c/
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: thus C:\Program Files == ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[19:31] <genii> DaSkreech, I'm looking in my last LinuxFormat magazine where they have an interesting looking game called Thunder and Lightning ...i have not installed it yet however
[19:31] <timo> hi. I have abit of an annoying problem. I want to run flightgear in full screen mode but it seems compiz fusion is making the full screen a little transparent which means I can see all the other windows underneat
[19:31] <timo> how do I fix this?
[19:31] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: That's still techncally not Linux :) and probably not FOSS
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: so if the installer asked to install on the C:\ that's where it should be installed
[19:31] <genii> the url given for it is http://tnlgame.net
[19:32] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, definately not FOSS... sorry, didnt see that being important
[19:32] <aztyx> in the c:\program files i cant see any .wine
[19:32] <aztyx> just common files and internet explorer
[19:32] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: are you on a kubuntu sys now?
[19:32] <aztyx> yes
[19:32] <aztyx> i installed on c now
[19:32] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: looking at the files through a windows program or linux program?
[19:32] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: It's nice :)
[19:33] <aztyx> steam is for windows. so im installing from wine
[19:33] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, it sure is, although with the new patch i get disconnected after every race =/
[19:33] <semistud2354> Can anyone help me...i just need to know now to comple mupen 64 for kubuntu
[19:33] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: gotcha... does Steam usually install to C:\Program Files\Steam?
[19:33] <semistud2354> im not exactly sure what to do
[19:34] <semistud2354> im using gutsy
[19:34] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: otherwise I'd just throw in Need for speed
[19:34] <aztyx> yes drake
[19:34] <DaSkreech> genii: plane simulator ?
[19:34] <genii> DaSkreech, yup
[19:34] <DaSkreech> timo: Turn off Compiz? :)
[19:35] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to compile mupen64 from source code
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: type 'Drak' then press tab... it brings up the name of the person you might be trying to speak to...
[19:35] <aztyx> ok
[19:35] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_:  hi
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: just make sure your 'windows drive' has the Steam folder where it is usually installed and it should run fine...
[19:35] <aztyx> is it red?
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: yup
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: lol
[19:35] <aztyx> i dont got windows anymore
[19:36] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: good job!
[19:36] <aztyx> what?
[19:36] <DaSkreech> genii: Honestly never heard of it. It's a racing agame? And a plane simulator ?
[19:36] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: what?
[19:36] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: linux has a sharper learning curve than windows though... so prepare for a lot of learning to switch
[19:36] <DaSkreech> DrakeJustice_: Not that much higher
[19:36] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: ooh ok
[19:36] <genii> DaSkreech, not so much a racing game as a plane dogfighting game, you can play head-to-head
[19:37] <genii> fully open source too
[19:37] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: the IRC Channels will help a lot          admin: not yelling
[19:37] <DaSkreech> genii: Yeah I'm trying to find something to feed the NFS guys at LAN parties :)
[19:37] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: My 8 year old niece uses Linux on a daily basis, and hasn't really asked me much about it. If she can learn it..  :)
[19:37] <DaSkreech> genii: Now that I think about it that's a nice space actually
[19:37] <aztyx> what do you mean with not yelling?
[19:37] <genii> DaSkreech, :)
[19:37] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: lol, linux is pie for children
[19:38] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: ever tried flightgear?
[19:38] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: what do you mean with no yelling?
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: its like another language to some...
[19:38] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: Maybe because they don't have to "unlearn" anything?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: Yeah. I like Santa and all but i wish it had more helicopters
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: capital letters usually mean that you are yelling...
[19:38] <ScorpKing> lol
[19:38] <TimS> KDE4 is not coming as deafult in 8.04?
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: sometimes people get angry if you yell
[19:38] <DaSkreech> TimS:
[19:38] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: aha so i shouldnt caps?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> no
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: indeed... capitalism to the max
[19:38] <DaSkreech> !shout
[19:38] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:39] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: not unless you need to
[19:39] <ScorpKing> TimS: no. 8.04 will be LTS and KDE4 will not be stable by then
[19:39] <aztyx> okok
[19:39] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: so back to steaminstall. how should i do if i dont got any windows?
[19:39] <DrakeJustice_> i wish 4.5 would be good by 8.04...
[19:39] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: It will be stable
[19:40] <TimS> Yeah, I am watching the Kubuntu akademy talk
[19:40] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: do you have aim?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: stable enough for LTS?
[19:40] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: no, but i got msn .
[19:40] <DaSkreech> TimS: By default does not mean it won't be available
[19:40] <TimS> Yeah the packages will be there
[19:40] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: It might be. however it's too new for them to bet on it
[19:40] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: i don't have msn... do you know how to join an IRC Channel?
[19:41] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: yes i do
[19:41] <ardchoille> aztyx: you can use opete to connect to msn
[19:41] <ardchoille> *kopete
[19:41] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: join slinux
[19:42] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: i don't have an msn account
[19:42] <DrakeJustice_> brb
[19:44] <GuHHH> does someone uses bacula and could help me with a simple question?
[19:45] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: oh i see. :D
[19:45] <cyboreal_> When an external HD with a LUKS encrypted partition is plugged into Ubuntu 7.10 (GNOME), it is automatically recognized and the user is prompted for the password. Kubuntu does not do this with my drive. How do I make it work like it does on GNOME?
[19:46] <DaSkreech> I would say yes for both GuHHH. however I'm not the person
[19:46] <DaSkreech> Gutsy ships with LUKS ?
[19:46] <_buz> cyboreal_: there's a link to some hack that does this on the luks site
[19:47] <_buz> http://strony.aster.pl/tanis/kde_luks/
[19:47] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: whos?
[19:47] <_buz> cyboreal_: other than that, pmount device is your friend ;-)
[19:47] <DaSkreech> !luks
[19:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:47] <cyboreal_> _buz, thanks!
[19:48] <DaSkreech> !ask | GuHHH
[19:48] <ubotu> GuHHH: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:49] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: but its a kind off-topic :)
[19:49] <DaSkreech> GuHHH: Well where would it be ontopic ?
[19:50] <GuHHH> in a channel that no one is responding
[19:50] <GuHHH> ;P
[19:52] <SudoKing> not if its relevant to what you're talking about
[19:52] <SudoKing> if i was talking about kde,
[19:52] <SudoKing> !kde
[19:52] <SudoKing> and no response :(
[19:53] <DaSkreech> GuHHH: Well toss out the question then
[19:54] <compilerwriter> !printer
[19:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:55] <carwash^> Hi I'm trying to edit my acpi-scripts specially volupbtn and voldownbtn to raise and lower the volume with greater resolution. Unforunately i dan't understand how the (very simple) scripts actually control the volume. Does anybody know?
[19:57] <ibert> Where can I edit the labelig of music-files when ripping with konquerors copy and paste?
[19:57] <carwash^> ibert: you should rip with kaudiocreator
[19:57] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: i try 'run' in the bconsole, then 'restorefiles', but it gives me error.
[19:57] <carwash^> it'll automatically get cddbinfo for your cds
[19:57] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.org/6516
[19:58] <nalioth> !tell me about upgrade
[19:58] <ibert> carwash^: konqi also does it. but I want to change the artist-title name....
[19:58] <ibert> carwash^: I think I just got it that second :-)
[19:58] <carwash^> aah, i just do that in amarok
[20:00] <carwash^> btw, i have really slow ripping speeds on my sata cdrom. Is there any way to speed things up?
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> !DMA | carwash^
[20:01] <ubotu> carwash^: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[20:02] <DaSkreech> carwash^:Konqueror shoudl get cddbinfo as well i think
[20:02] <carwash^> but hwo do i set dma on a sata drive. hdparm won't work
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> oh... hmm IDK... maybe its enabled by default since they are newer?
[20:03] <carwash^> and, the drive is fast enough to give me around 6megabytes/s whencopying from a burned dvd
[20:03] <DaSkreech> genii: new relase tooday :)
[20:05] <compilerwriter> I have a 2Wire router and a printer connected to an XP machine that I need to print to can anyone help me get this done?
[20:06] <ibert> compilerwriter: smb:///NameOfXPMachine
[20:07] <genii> carwash^, You might find some useful stuff about the acpi/volup/voldown stuff at these places (one is Panasonic-centric but shows the /proc path the brightness values are stored in etc) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-497052.html and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/16424
[20:08] <genii> DaSkreech, New release of Konq?
[20:08] <DaSkreech> genii: TnL
[20:08] <compilerwriter> Thanks ibert
[20:08] <genii> DaSkreech, Ah Ok :) I'll have to check it out when i get home
[20:09] <genii> (this box would choke horrendously on anything)
[20:09] <carwash^> genii: thanks, i'll look in to it
[20:10] <genii> carwash^, np
[20:10] <Thylio> How do i watch divx videos in firefox?
[20:10] <vaidas> umm... what do I do to make ark be able to use rar files?
[20:10] <ReMiiRuru> In tcsh, can I somehow check if argument is a number?
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: embed mplayer
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> woot
[20:11] <Daryll> guys: is it possible to delete all panels from KDE?
[20:11] <Daryll> or there have to be 1 all the time ?
[20:11] <Thylio> vaidas: install winrar for linux, www.rarlab.com ore somthing
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: make it autohide but super long delay on popping back up
[20:11] <Daryll> ok
[20:12] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :   embed?  I have installed mplayer. it dont work anyways
[20:12] <Ragol> hi, I have problem with upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10.
[20:12] <Daryll> other question, how do i let the last panel look like a dock ?
[20:12] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: mplayer doesn't work?
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> Daryll: or you can just hide it with a super small button
[20:12] <Ragol> when I run adept_manager, it finds the new version, downloads packages and then quits
[20:12] <Ragol> it doesn't say anything
[20:12] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: you need the plugins package... google it
[20:12] <Ragol> I even tried to run it from console to get more error messages, but nothing
[20:12] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :  okay
[20:12] <Ragol> any ideas what else could I try?
[20:12] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm having an odd problem - every time I try to load amarok, it doesn't load, and kopete freezes - though it unfreezes if I kill amarokapp. Any ideas?
[20:13] <Ragol> it isn't probably wise to just run aptitude upgrade?
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: how about starting it when kopete isn't started?
[20:14] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: still doesn't run
[20:14] <Black_Monkey> oh, and katapult freezes too
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: whats it say if you run amarok from konsole?
[20:14] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :  cant find anyting
[20:15] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: doesn't say anything
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: hmm.... i've had that happen before.
[20:15] <genii> Ragol, generally when doing a dist-upgrade I've found most success by commandline apt-get method.eg:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:16] <Ragol> genii: yep, but for some upgrade it was not a suggested method
[20:16] <Daryll> guys: how can i make a panel look like mac osx-dock ?
[20:16] <Ragol> because apt-get couldn't handle something in that upgrade
[20:16] <compilerwriter> ibert Ive not done something correctly
[20:16] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: does anything except restarting solve it?
[20:16] <GS3User007_> !ntfs
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> Daryll: get kooldock
[20:16] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[20:16] <Ragol> and I wouldn't want to try if it works now, because this is my primary computer ;)
[20:16] <Daryll> nosrednaekim:  ok i search for it thx
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: do an apt-get purge amarok and then reinstall it
[20:17] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: join slinux
[20:17] <Black_Monkey> kk
[20:19] <phnom> w
[20:19] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: nope, still does the same thing
[20:20] <Daryll> what to do with a bzip2 file ?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: hummm check your kopete settings, do you have the media plugin enabled?
[20:20] <travis> Xevious are you around?
[20:20] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: cd /path/to/bzip; tar -jxf ./file.tar.bz2
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> yeah, but it crashed when kopete wasn't running...
[20:21] <travis> anyone using ati?
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: but was katapult running?
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> travis: here
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> hm, actually, katapult catalogues amarok files
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> yeah
[20:21] <DrakeJustice_> travis: unfortunately
[20:22] <Daryll> it is opened by Ark, but how to 'install'  it ?
[20:22] <hExDj> how do I know if there are drivers available for my computer in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: howto install bzip2? lol... try KConfigure, KSource, or other programs for that first
[20:22] <travis> nosrednaekim: how you build the driver package for it?
[20:22] <carwash^> hExDj: just run the live cd. ifit works you're fine
[20:22] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: if you need more than those apps come back and we'll command line it
[20:23] <Black_Monkey> hm, ok, I killed katapult, disabled the kopete media plugin... kopete's stopped freezing, but amarok's still not running - must be another program...
[20:23] <Daryll> DrakeJustice_: ok thx :)
[20:23] <DrakeJustice_> yup
[20:23] <Ragol> oh well, I'm just plain upgrading it, we'll see how it will go
[20:23] <carwash^> Black_Monkey: try killingartsd, might be a soundserver problem
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> travis: I didn't, but are you tlking about the 8.42driver?
[20:23] <travis> drakejustice: ya
[20:24] <travis> drakejustice: i have the HD Radeon 2600XT im trying to get working
[20:24] <Black_Monkey> carwash^: nope, still not running
[20:24] <DrakeJustice_> travis: you tried the program Envy? google it
[20:24] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: 8.42 is not worth trying
[20:24] <travis> drakejustice: just google Envy?
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[20:25] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[20:25] <carwash^> why would one want to use envy instead of apt-get nvidia-new?
[20:25] <DrakeJustice_> travis: yeah 'Envy ubuntu' or something of that nature
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> do not use envy...
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: 8.42 is working great here!
[20:25] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: Envy is good now, it doesn't hack up restricted anymore...
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[20:26] <travis> nosrednaekim: what ati car you got?
[20:26] <travis> nosrednaekim: what ati card even lol you got?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> travis: Xpress1100 .... crappy mobile integrated
[20:26] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: 8.42 is good for power cards but for regular ppl 8.42, and AIGLX is not good from an XGL setup...
[20:26] <GS3User007_> i used the script specified by !ntfs, but it says my disks are mounted for read-only access. is it possible to allow read AND write access?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> well... maybe not for you... but i'm likin' it
[20:27] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: i wish i had a better card... :(
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> GS3User007_: yeah, so into system settings->advanced-> disks and partitions
[20:27] <DrakeJustice_> my primary is an 200m... :(((((
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: thats pretty much my card right there..
[20:28] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: huh?
[20:28] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: AIGLX did not go down with this box... at all...
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: a Xpress1100 is a 200m with support for turion X2's
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: yeah... I know another guy who has that card and it didn't work for him either
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: hmm... how did you pray tell?
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> oh... crap
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: nm... :(
[20:29] <Black_Monkey> any idea how I can find out which apps might be using amarok? :/
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: i so wish i remembered that command...
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> !lsof
[20:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> rr
[20:30] <Fpkt> bonjour
[20:30] <alibobaevich> Hi all. Is it possible to switch file manager from Dolphin back to Konqueror?
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: probably a dbus command
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> alibobaevich: yeah,but I forget how to do it
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> (and wish I remembered)
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> !dolphin
[20:31] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[20:31] <Sertraline> Does anyone happen to know how to reflash a BIOS? I'm having serious problems with both my hardware and my software, and I believe it has to do with the fact the BIOS update utility crashed mid-update :S
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> ah!
[20:31] <alibobaevich> nosrednaekim, Thank you!
[20:32] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: lsof | grep amarok... all libs and bins attached to it in runtime...
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: ^^
[20:33] <Black_Monkey> ah, thanks
[20:33] <Black_Monkey> that's a lot of results O_o
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:34] <DrakeJustice_> :)
[20:34] <Black_Monkey> I'd meant which other programs use amarok as katapult does for indexing amarok files, and kopete does for the now playing script :/
[20:35] <DrakeJustice_> ???
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> wtf is an amarok file, audio/* (mime) maybe? grok?
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> oops!
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> admin:sry
[20:37] <DrakeJustice_> idk, grok amarok src...
[20:38] <olavxxx> has anyone tried the linuxmce?
[20:38] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: just another linux...
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> olavxxx: nope... but I hear its really nice
[20:39] <olavxxx> I saw a vid of it, comparing it to windowsMCE
[20:39] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: kdcop + browsing... lol
[20:39] <olavxxx> downloading the disc atm.. but I get crappy 112kb/s :S
[20:39] <b1n42y> ahh installed newest version of xchat no more join leave msgs
[20:39] <pumpkinn> hey uys i restarted my kubuntu and not started in text mode, and afther sudo start x i get a error message
[20:39] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: it is... except they don't have an underlying foundation... they are a linux+hack, kinda like tivo... lol
[20:39] <olavxxx> I must say the kubuntu was way better than ydl on ps3 :P
[20:40] <Black_Monkey> DrakeJustice_: sorry, what's that? :S
[20:40] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: lol... indeed... everything is still good on a ps3
[20:40] <olavxxx> I hope someone cracks the hypervisor
[20:40] <olavxxx> then it would be a cool workstation too
[20:41] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: weren't you looking for what used amarok? kdcop lets you browse all of the open programs dcop 'registries'
[20:41] <Black_Monkey> oh ok, thanks
[20:41] <olavxxx> how can I check used resources in the kubuntu? 7.04
[20:41] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: ksysguard > resources tab
[20:42] <olavxxx> ah, thx
[20:42] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: ksysguard > system load wutev
[20:42] <olavxxx> I think the install could have been a bit better fornoobs :p
[20:42] <olavxxx> I made a 2gb swap partiotion, is that good?
[20:42] <olavxxx> it said atleast 150mb or something
[20:42] <olavxxx> so I made the swap in the beginning of the drive, 2gb
[20:43] <b1n42y> depends on your memory i *think*
[20:43] <olavxxx> the hw is kindof crappy.. 2.54ghz p4, 533fsb, 2 x 512 pc3200
[20:43] <b1n42y> but that could be XP talking
[20:43] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: 2gb is mostly wasteful... unless you use 'blender' or game or something heavy...
[20:43] <olavxxx> XP as in experience, or as in Windows xp?
[20:43] <b1n42y> win
[20:44] <olavxxx> I'll just try the mediacenter..
[20:44] <olavxxx> lol
[20:44] <b1n42y> huh
[20:44] <olavxxx> I have another pc for gaming
[20:44] <b1n42y> i hope you arent going to install winblows
[20:44] <olavxxx> this one only has gf fx5200 fanless
[20:44] <olavxxx> the other one uses xp :P
[20:44] <olavxxx> atleast its not vista?
[20:45] <Les_Caesars> how do I change the key shortcut for lowering my volume?
[20:45] <b1n42y> yes as far as games it is probably advisable to have winblows somewhere
[20:45] <nzk> Hey, my laptop supports 1920x1200, but Kubuntu will only use 1024x768, which is hideous. How do I get it to use 1920x1200?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: kmix->global shortcuts
[20:45] <Les_Caesars> thanks
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> nzk: what graphics card?
[20:46] <nzk> nosrednaekim: ATI Mobility Radeon 9800 Pro
[20:46] <nzk> I got fglrx.
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> nzk: oh... ok
[20:46] <DrakeJustice_> fancy fglrxer's
[20:46] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:46] <nzk> That's how I broke it, TheGateKeeper
[20:46] <olavxxx> b1n42y:: yes.. I only game the different valve games (most of them) and some battlefield2, etc. so I guess I "have" to have a windows boot...
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> nzk: umm, run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[20:46] <nzk> nosrednaekim: ...
[20:47] <nzk> That led to around 12 or 13 reformats for me.
[20:47] <nzk> That's the devil command. I might as well rm -rf /
[20:47] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: make a backup of it first
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> uhhh really? that always rescues me :)
[20:47] <nzk> I did that the last 11 or 12 times.
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> nzk: ok.... did you try the screens and graphics tool in the control center?
[20:48] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: let get this straight, you messed up xorg.conf so you reinstalled?
[20:48] <Les_Caesars> nosrednaekim: The configuration is still the same as before, even though I remapped it. Do I need to restart X before changes take effect, or is there a less session-closing way of doing that?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: what did you remap it to?
[20:48] <Les_Caesars> X86RaiseVolume
[20:49] <olavxxx> I love the GUI in the kubuntu
[20:49] <olavxxx> also everything works :)
[20:49] <Les_Caesars> lower volume works just fine. But raisevolume doesn't change the volume. Key's recognized just fine though
[20:49] <nzk> TheGateKeeper: Yes, I got tired after asking on IRC for weeks and making dozens of topics on every Linux help board imaginable.
[20:49] <nzk> So it takes less time to reformat.
[20:49] <JohnFlux> Is there a hardware compatibility list thing for ubuntu?
[20:49] <JohnFlux> so I can check if hardware will work before I buy it
[20:49] <olavxxx> linuxcompatible.com or something
[20:49] <Firetech> Why is kbluetoothd (the binary at least)gone in gutsy? :S
[20:49] <olavxxx> I seem to recall reading earlier today
[20:49] <JohnFlux> In particular I want to know if the sound card:    Realtek ALC883  will work :)
[20:49] <osium> how do i enable desktop effects on kubuntu gutsy? am using dell inspiron 1420
[20:50] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: thanks
[20:50] <olavxxx> maybe it was org
[20:50] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: all you have to do if copy your backup & start again lol
[20:50] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: good memory :)
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: then yes, you need to retsart X
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[20:50] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[20:50] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: lol, yeah.. since I didnt even visit the page :P
[20:50] <Les_Caesars> nosrednaekim: darn, ok then. Thanks
[20:51] <Black_Monkey> osium: you need to install compiz, they're not installed by default on kubuntu
[20:51] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: it didn't find it though :-D
[20:51] <pumpkinn> hey the logout buton don't works
[20:51] <nzk> TheGateKeeper: That didn't work when I did it.
[20:51] <olavxxx> I was actually installing the xp2k5 mce.. (since I have a legal key and all), but when I got impatient and removed the bluetooth dongle during install, it would not respond when I plugged it in later, during the install process... SO I thought: **** it, I'll try another linux distro.
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:52] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> JohnFlux: I have that chip, and it works fine here.
[20:52] <Black_Monkey> osium: if you look on the ubuntuforums, there's a bunch of guides to installing compiz
[20:52] <JohnFlux> nosrednaekim: thanks
[20:52] <b1n42y> osium, plus ive been told that the pager and compiz dont work to well so id go with gnome like i have
[20:52] <osium> Black_Mo?
[20:53] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: sorry I meant I went there, searched for my hardware, and didn't find it
[20:53] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: sheesh cause it works, I even copied one from another distro cos the one I had was such a mess
[20:53] <osium> ok thanx
[20:53] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: ah, ok..
[20:54] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: this means you can post there, when you figure out that it works.
[20:54] <hamadooo> anyone can help with upgrading
[20:54] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: well, it made more problems for me :(
[20:54] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: it works just as it did before, only now I don't get a popup showing the volume. Raise volume still aint working.
[20:55] <Les_Caesar> Oh, and my drives don't mount on login. But that's a different problem.
[20:55] <KalEl> how do i remove stuffs that got installed as dependencies of a metapackage?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: like.....
[20:56] <hamadooo> i got an error while im trying to update my ubuntu
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> hamadooo: what is the error
[20:57] <hamadooo> failed to fetch ........
[20:57] <DaSkreech> !rar
[20:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:57] <hamadooo> ..... = site
[20:57] <b1n42y> sounds like network issues to me retry?
[20:57] <hamadooo> yes i think that to
[20:57] <hamadooo> how to solve this
[20:58] <DrakeJustice_> hamadooo: google the filename then download it from somewhere else
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> hamadooo: restart the upgrade?
[20:58] <b1n42y> just re run whatever u where trying to d/l thats what ive done in the past
[20:58] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok. I reassigned the shortcuts. Now lower volume is supposed to raise volume, and vise versa.
[20:58] <hamadooo> i did restart 4 times
[20:58] <Les_Caesar> The key is recognized, but does not activate any global shortcuts
[20:58] <hamadooo> ok i will google now
[20:58] <KalEl> when you apt-get install unrar (the non-free one), it is used by the k archive manager as well
[20:58] <hamadooo> thanx
[20:58] <b1n42y> ahh then try drakejustice comment
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: did you restart X?I don't mean log out...I mean press ctrl+alt+bckspace upon logging out.
[20:59] <DrakeJustice_> huh?
[20:59] <b1n42y> all good maye
[20:59] <b1n42y> tmate
[20:59] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: yes. Exactly that. Control alt backspace
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> odd
[21:00] <b1n42y> DrakeJustice_, just saying he should try your suggestion if he has retried d/l
[21:00] <eagles0513875> any1 know much about one cuz in the wine channel its dead
[21:00] <eudemus> OK, trying one last time ...
[21:00] <DrakeJustice_> oh
[21:00] <eudemus> My screen resolution is correct in x server, but wrong when I log onto KDM. How can I correct this? I have a widescreen TFT 1280 x 800.
[21:01] <julius> !autostart
[21:01] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> eudemus: ah..... that problem ussually arises when you have used a smaller resolution/moitor
[21:01] <julius> !ping
[21:01] <ubotu> pong
[21:01] <Les_Caesar> !automount
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <Les_Caesar> !kickoff
[21:01] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: for the heck of it.... do a reboot
[21:02] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok.
[21:02] <eudemus> nosrednaekim: what causes it? how do I correct it?
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> eudemus: I know the answer to neither of those qustions, does this happen every reboot?
[21:05] <DrakeJustice_> eudemus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ??
[21:05] <DrakeJustice_> i dunno
[21:05] <ScorpKing> eudemus: maybe it's the VGA=? setting in /boot/grub/menu.lst that's causing it. does usplash display ok?
[21:06] <eudemus> DrakeJustice: yes, could be. But presumably that's a wizard that basically populates a file somewhere, like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? No?
[21:07] <ScorpKing> eudemus: nah, it's not grub. i remember fixing it on my girlfriends computer. the problem is in xorg.conf
[21:07] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: all of my global shortcuts are fouled up. Now "Run Command" doesn't work
[21:07] <eudemus> ScorpKing: there was a problem with both of those, but I resolved it with some help from ubuntuforums (shouldn't that be "fora"?). Now the remaining problem is after kde login.
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: ouch...
[21:08] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok. I got "Run command" to work
[21:08] <ScorpKing> eudemus: so during boot it's ok? just after logging in has a problem right?
[21:08] <eudemus> ScorpKing: nope. For sure it's taken ages to be able to get the xorg.conf right, but the Gutsy tricks in System Settings > Display & Monitor sorted it - very clever, in fact! Sorted it in a way that dpkg-reconfigure never could!
[21:08] <eudemus> ScorpKing: exactly. It's fine right up until I log in.
[21:10] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i know that it's possible to set different resolutions for each user so maybe there is a local xorg.conf file somewhere.
[21:11] <Ahmuck> i've broke aptitude adept.  how do i fix?
[21:11] <KalEl> how can i enable ubuntu like window effects in kubuntu?
[21:11] <eudemus> ScorpKing: do you think that the issue is with x then? I'll do a search.
[21:11] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[21:11] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:11] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i think so. searching...
[21:11] <scheater5> This may not be the place for this question, but I got no help at #damnsmalllinux - does anyone know why a computer that supports usb-fdd booting wouldn't boot a working DamnSmallLinux pendrive?
[21:12] <Ahmuck> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the libdvdread3 package. This might mean y                                                                ou need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[21:12] <Les_Caesar> is there a way I can make KDE mount my hard drives without editing fstab?
[21:12] <intExDK> When I try to install Java Runtime Environment from Adept Manager, it says "There was an error committing changes..." Anybody who can help?
[21:12] <KalEl> scheater5, you could also try #linuxhelp
[21:12] <Ahmuck> intExDK: yes, i've broke my apt with the same package
[21:12] <ScorpKing> scheater5: or ##linux
[21:13] <scheater5> KalEl: in what server?
[21:13] <KalEl> scheater5, why here itself
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: system settings-> advanced-> disk and partitions
[21:13] <scheater5> Thanks
[21:13] <skole> Hi all! I have a problem getting my spell check to work in open office writer after I updated my kubuntu. How to fix that?
[21:13] <KalEl> scheater5, by here i mean irc.freenode.org
[21:14] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i see /home/me/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[21:14] <KalEl> how can i enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[21:14] <ScorpKing> !compiz | KalEl
[21:14] <ubotu> KalEl: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:16] <skole> Hi all! I have a problem getting my spell check to work in open office writer after I updated my kubuntu. How to fix that?
[21:17] <eudemus> ScorpKing: that's not it. There's also systemsettingsrc, which isn't it either. Both contain a screen resolution, but since boht are correct on my system, it can't be them.
[21:17] <KalEl> oh it doesn't ship with kubuntu
[21:17] <DaSkreech> !games
[21:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:18] <ScorpKing> eudemus: ok. still looking..
[21:19] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: ping
[21:19] <eudemus> ScorpKing: I found something called xorg.conf_look in /home/user/ but I think it might have been something I put there for my own reference when I was fiddlign around. Name seems a bit suspicious.
[21:19] <Merritt> Okay, can someone tell me how to set my nick? It keeps defaulting to my computer user name, it's annoying.
[21:19] <ScorpKing> eudemus: yeah, that's not it.
[21:19] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: yo
[21:20] <JohnFlux> Merritt: Settings->Identities
[21:20] <soon> I need help with my network - can anyone suggest a good channel?
[21:20] <Merritt> JohnFlux: Thank you!
[21:21] <b0nn> so Ive just upgraded from dapper->edgy, and my laptop will now not boot
[21:21] <KalEl> how can i set https:// links to open in firefox instead of konqueror?
[21:21] <b0nn> it hangs at setting up console font and keymap
[21:22] <soon> KalEl try right clicking a link, choose the app to open it with and flag 'Use this app as standard'
[21:22] <b0nn> er sorry edgy->feisty
[21:22] <KalEl> ahh i see thanks
[21:22] <soon> np - try it out
[21:23] <KalEl> i found this: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html - "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE." - Linus Torvalds (Linux founder)
[21:23] <KalEl> this is nice :)
[21:24] <Merritt> Yeah, that's nice. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, you know? Good KDE, good. *pets*
[21:24] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i don't see anything. :( could i have a look at your xorg.conf?
[21:25] <Merritt> The ONE thing I like about GNOME: The ability to make icons on your desktop different sizes at will. I wish I could do that with KDE.
[21:25] <ScorpKing> hmm.. that is nice.
[21:25] <eudemus> ScorpKing: how do I send it to you? I'm using Konversation .....
[21:25] <ScorpKing> !paste | eudemus
[21:26] <ubotu> eudemus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:26] <ScorpKing> there ^
[21:26] <b1n42y> damn i cant thank militant potato..... thanks militant wherever you are in cyberspace
[21:26] <emilsedgh> Merritt: you could do that with KDE4
[21:26] <soon> Any suggestions: IRC channel where I can get networking woes help
[21:26] <b1n42y> soon, 1 sec
[21:26] <ScorpKing> soon: right here.
[21:26] <Merritt> emilsedgh: I was hoping they'd add that in v4, but it won't be out for a while yet. Really looking forward to it though, KDE4 looks real nice :)
[21:27] <b1n42y> lol was going to look for appropraite channel ;p
[21:27] <ScorpKing> soon: explain your problem. we all use networks here.
[21:27] <Merritt> One would hope.
[21:27] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:28] <eudemus> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42738/
[21:28] <soon> I play DoD on my XP and every now and then (30-90 minutes or so) I loose the connection for 15-20 seconds (also loose my score :-) ... also my downspeed should be 8 Mb, it is actually 5 Mb
[21:28] <soon> My ISP says line is okay
[21:28] <Merritt> Well, my dad FINALLY does. He got highspeed last week... after waiting for 7 years. ^_^ lmao
[21:28] <emilsedgh> Merritt: yes it does
[21:28] <soon> I have a Linksys router (setup is okay as far as I can see)
[21:28] <b1n42y> this will be good happens to me ..but im pretty sure mine is line
[21:28] <soon> wireless and wires all mixed up  -  but all of it dhcp
[21:29] <soon> What I need really, is to get some info on what happens when I loose connection
[21:29] <soon> somekinda app, that will log or monitor or what have you
[21:29] <b1n42y> i have the same problem soon
[21:29] <Merritt> soon: Personally (the girl with a really bad router) I find wireless often chokes the speed, even for the hard lines. :)
[21:30] <b1n42y> soon, try isolating if possible
[21:30] <soon> This seems to be unrelated to the other activity (if any) on my lan
[21:30] <b1n42y> soon, i have tried just hard lines and i get same problem but maybe in soons case it is wireless
[21:30] <soon> (it happens post-midnight when the wife is a sleep :-)
[21:30] <ScorpKing> soon: the wired and wireless network might have different gateways and dns which will help you loos your connection. lol
[21:31] <ScorpKing> loose*
[21:31] <b1n42y> wow!
[21:31] <b1n42y> lose
[21:31] <kudar> soon: pics of wife?
[21:31] <ardchoille> My system isn't popping up a window with optins when I put in a dvd movie. How do I get that functionality?
[21:31]  * ScorpKing can't spell..
[21:31] <b1n42y> all gid
[21:31] <soon> hmm .. I can check the router setup again - re. the wired/wireless thing ....
[21:32] <b1n42y> ScorpKing, how to check this
[21:32] <cristian> How install a theme in KDE 3.5.8 from http://www.kde-look.org??
[21:33] <b1n42y> !kde themes
[21:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde themes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:33] <b1n42y> meh
[21:33] <b1n42y> !kde theme
[21:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde theme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:33] <ScorpKing> b1n42y: not sure. check on the dhcp servers or just disable one of the connections. setting the lease time for clients might help as well.
[21:33] <b1n42y> okai thanks
[21:34] <ardchoille> nvm, fixed it. The KDED Media Manager service wasn't running
[21:34] <ScorpKing> eudemus: that file is not standard. :P did you change it manually for some reason?
[21:35] <ardchoille> cristian: That depends on the style/theme you downloaded. Is it a widget theme? Window deco theme? ksplash theme? KDM theme?
[21:35] <ScorpKing> hehe. i need to get my usplash theme working.
[21:35] <b1n42y> now i gotta get some counter strike source action
[21:36] <cristian> ardchoille: Theme/Style
[21:36] <ScorpKing> b1n42y: search in google for linux games
[21:36] <eudemus> ScorpKing: no. I think it will have been changed by the kde utility. The only other thing I've changed it with has been dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Or at least I think so. If I have changed it manually ever (I don't think I have), that will have only been to change the resolution numbers. but I'm pretty sure I've not done that since my clean install of Gutsy.
[21:37] <cristian> ardchoille: I wanna this theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=153&forumpage=14
[21:37] <b1n42y> ya ive got css working b4 without sound...that is when i switched from ubuntu > kubutnu > ubuntu so i gotta insatll everything again
[21:38] <ScorpKing> eudemus: oh ok. what happens if you pres <ctrl>+<alt>+<keypad+> ? it should cycle you trough the modes. is there a useable one?
[21:39] <b1n42y> before i leave... i just managed to enable 2nd screen with seperate X... and i have seen a perfomance drop on my original screen ..is this normal ??
[21:39] <b1n42y> cant spell either ;p
[21:40] <ScorpKing> lol. no idea. i still want to set that up.
[21:40] <b1n42y> ScorpKing, u talkn to me ?
[21:40] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:40] <soon> would some try to ping www.arcor.de and 2 or 3 other .de servers (e.g bmw.de and vw.de) and tell me whether arcor is much slower ...
[21:40] <b1n42y> kk
[21:40]  * Minataku meows at ScorpKing
[21:40] <Minataku> lol
[21:40] <b1n42y> i can help you ^^ Scorp
[21:40] <ScorpKing> heya Minataku
[21:40] <Minataku> I've been thinking for a while about two X11 with 1 display
[21:41] <olavxxx> Can I run an application as root via the run command dialog?
[21:41] <soon> (well vw.de doesnt exist), but ford.de perhaps then
[21:41] <Minataku> I'm sure it's incredibly easy to do
[21:41] <olavxxx> -su application ?
[21:41] <Minataku> lol
[21:41] <ScorpKing> b1n42y: it's getting late here. maybe next time. thanks.
[21:41] <b1n42y> 2 X with 1 display ?
[21:41] <ScorpKing> soon: ping google.com
[21:41] <b1n42y> ScorpKing, no worries
[21:41] <eudemus> ScorpKing: nothing happens when I do that. I have tried that before and was a bit mystified why it didn't do anything.
[21:41] <Minataku> Yes, two separate instances of X11 running on one local machine with one screen
[21:41] <olavxxx> ah, I found it
[21:41] <ScorpKing> X x2 nice..
[21:41] <Minataku> Or rather
[21:42] <ScorpKing> eudemus: then xorg.conf is wrong
[21:42] <Minataku> X11, two displays on one machine, one local one remote
[21:42] <b1n42y> Minataku, sorry havent had a need to do that
[21:42] <soon> ScropKing : Yeah - the thing is, I normally play DoD on an arcor server and actually Im getting pings of 50-70 msec with arcor.de, but on 10-20 with bmw.de .... perhaps the server is to blame - not me
[21:42] <eudemus> SK: what should it be like? which bits made you say it was dodgy?
[21:42] <soon> ScorpKing that is :-)
[21:42] <Minataku> Like have tty7 display the local X server, and tty8 display a remote one, like from one of my Sun machines
[21:42] <Minataku> lol
[21:43] <b1n42y> ahhhhh
[21:43] <ScorpKing> Minataku, b1n42y: i have TV output but 1024x768 is a bit big for it.
[21:43] <Minataku> Heh
[21:43] <Minataku> Yeah, you'll fairly quickly overrun NTSC resolution
[21:43] <Minataku> Or PAL
[21:43] <Minataku> Wherever you are
[21:43] <Minataku> lol
[21:43] <ScorpKing> PAL
[21:43] <ScorpKing> soon: that could be it.
[21:44] <cristian> ardchoille: I wanna install this theme http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=153&forumpage=14  .....and I dont know
[21:44] <soon> jep (still doesnt explain my 5Mb versus 8Mb down speed of course)
[21:44] <Minataku> PAL- Pretty Awful; Low refresh rate (actually it's Phase Altered Line, but a joke is a joke XD )
[21:44] <b1n42y> soon, i still think its your line
[21:44] <soon> Perhaps I should just try different servers for a while ...
[21:44] <ScorpKing> eudemus: heh. let me see if i can find something. i also think you should have 70Hz in there and not just the lower ones.
[21:44] <soon> see if it looses connection there too ....
[21:44] <Minataku> It may be the routing, b1n42y/soon
[21:45] <soon> What to look for though
[21:45] <olavxxx> is there a good remote desktop application for kubuntu?
[21:45] <eudemus> ScorpKing: that would be great.
[21:45] <olavxxx> 7.04
[21:45] <Minataku> Run a traceroute
[21:45] <Minataku> To both servers
[21:45] <soon> tried that
[21:45] <Minataku> See how many stops and where a bottleneck is
[21:45] <soon> 8-9 lines each
[21:45] <Minataku> Look at the times, too
[21:45] <soon> ok hang on
[21:45] <Wesley> Hi i got a new wide tft screen and i was wordering why cant i stretch my video,s?
[21:45] <Minataku> If that's not it, one server may have longer pings in the game if it's loaded down more than the other one
[21:46] <b1n42y> Minataku, ya but he was talkn about losing connection completely ..from the internet I believe
[21:46] <soon> trace route for arcor : http://pastebin.com/m123d0544
[21:47] <b0nn> Hi, Ive just tried to upgrade from edgy -> feisty and when i reboot it hangs at setting up console font and keymap' any ideas on what I should do?
[21:47] <skole> Hi all! I have a problem getting my spell check to work in open office writer after I updated my kubuntu. How to fix that?
[21:47] <Minataku> Well, that can happen
[21:47] <Minataku> Especially with wireless
[21:47] <Minataku> For something that so many people use so often, wireless is garbage
[21:48] <soon> hmm www.arcor.de is nothing to do with the DoD server
[21:48] <ScorpKing> eudemus: this is what mine looks like - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42744/
[21:48] <Minataku> When I get my own place, no wireless. Period.
[21:48] <Minataku> lol
[21:48] <soon> Minataku ... its on a wired PC though
[21:48] <Minataku> Eh
[21:48] <Minataku> Like I said, it's not limited to wireless
[21:48] <b1n42y> soon, is this a random thing or all the time
[21:48] <Minataku> I've had inexplicable network drops
[21:49] <soon> everytime I play - but with varying intervals
[21:49] <Angelus> hi
[21:49] <Minataku> It's quite possible that the game is doing something stupid and the network is dropping as a result
[21:49] <b1n42y> soon, and how frequent
[21:49] <soon> every half hour to every second hour or so
[21:49] <b1n42y> so its random
[21:49] <soon> seems to be
[21:50] <ScorpKing> eudemus: backup xorg.conf and get the correct settings for HorizSync and VertRefresh. also look at the way Section "Screen" is configured.
[21:50] <b1n42y> soon, sounds exactly like my problem
[21:50] <Angelus> i compiled and install a linux kernel by "apt-get source linux-2.6.22" and using debian/rules to compile ( like the developers do ). it compiled and installed corrrectly without trouble , but adept is telling me to update from 2.6.22 to 2.6.22,  its the same version as the kubuntu official kernel, somebody knows how to fix this?
[21:50] <soon> this is the correct trace route to the DoD server : http://pastebin.com/m6ec7bb0d
[21:50]  * DarthWar is away: Gone away for now.
[21:51] <Minataku> I know that if I did a UDP scan with nmap, when it was done, nmap would segfault, and the network would reset
[21:51] <djlight> привет
[21:52] <soon> I recon I should probably go and try some different servers in germany (Im in Denmark) and see if I can reproduce
[21:52] <b1n42y> soon, agreed... i still think its line
[21:52] <Minataku> !ru
[21:52] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[21:52] <DaSkreech>  !lvm
[21:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[21:52] <eudemus> ScorpKing: are you suggesting that I paste in something on the pattern of yours, and see what difference that makes?
[21:52] <soon> I'll be back later -...
[21:52] <b1n42y> kk
[21:53] <Vermux> how to I increase the volume?
[21:53] <frojnd> I wanna to compile ndiswapper: wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz  this one. And when I try to make: sudo make uninstall, I get message: NOTE: Not all installed files are removed, as different distributions install ndiswrapper files at different places. Run uninstall as many times as necessary untill no "removing" message appear below. I done this command "sudo make uninstall" fro over 100
[21:53] <frojnd>  times, but I still get this message. any ideas how can I install this????
[21:53] <b1n42y> Vermux, have u tried the obvious ?
[21:53] <Vermux> ?
[21:54] <b1n42y> clicking on speaker icon
[21:54] <olavxxx> b1n42y: turning it off and on again?
[21:54] <ScorpKing> eudemus: you will have to set your drivers and display settings for your card tho. i'll be here for about an hour more. let me see if i can come up with a working one for you..
[21:54] <b1n42y> olavxxx, lol
[21:54] <olavxxx> lalalala, why cant I read the frikkin manual :P I could have just mounted this images instead of burning it, lol
[21:54] <olavxxx> b1n42y: have you seen "the it crowd" ?
[21:55] <olavxxx> it's not very much about computers, but..
[21:55] <b1n42y> olavxxx, film ya rings a bell no i havnt
[21:56] <b1n42y> Vermux, and?
[21:56] <olavxxx> it's a british comedy serie
[21:56] <b1n42y> any good
[21:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> b1n42y: your nick is inappropriate.  everyone knows there's no 2 or 4 in binary! :D
[21:56] <b1n42y> thanks
[21:56] <b1n42y> t;p
[21:56] <olavxxx> b1n42y: it's up and down.. some episodes are not so good
[21:57] <b1n42y> /
[21:57] <eudemus> ScorpKing: cheers. that's hugely helpful. Screen res is supposed to be 1280x800, and according to the man for the monitor its supported timing on VESA at 1280x800 is Dot Clock 83.50MHz, Vertical 59.81Hz, Horiz 49.702Khz Sync Polarity or composite sync: -/+ and Operating Mode: A. Not sure what those last bits are.
[21:57] <olavxxx> wtf.. why does it say my cdrom is empty, when I just burned the iso on it?
[21:58] <Vermux> b1n42y: ok, thanks
[21:58] <b1n42y> np
[21:58] <ScorpKing> eudemus: thanks, that helps.
[21:58] <dwidmann> Anybody around know much about initrd? (by chance ...)
[21:58] <b1n42y> !initrd
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: whacha need?
[21:59] <olavxxx> I had to eject it, lol
[21:59] <b1n42y> olavxxx, lol
[21:59] <b1n42y> linuxs messes with you ina good way IMO
[21:59] <olavxxx> does fujitsu siemens make drivers for linux?
[21:59] <olavxxx> the scaleo c has a display :P
[21:59] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: Sorry Powercut. Can Sysguard connect to multiple computers?
[22:00] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: feep? do you need something?
[22:00] <olavxxx> Now I just have to find out where I install that install.sh... but dont tell me yet
[22:00] <DaSkreech> Merritt: You can set icon sizes in KDE4
[22:00] <olavxxx> I want to try and fain
[22:00] <olavxxx> fail
[22:00] <olavxxx> or, I dont want to fail.. but you get the idea
[22:00] <Merritt> DaSkreech: Damn that was a while ago. And yeah, but KDE4 isn't out yet. :(
[22:00] <b1n42y> olavxxx, experience it yourslef more of an achievement
[22:01] <olavxxx> b1n42y: word and powerpoint
[22:01] <olavxxx> Merritt: its out in a beta or something
[22:01] <kudar> anyone know how to use wpa with tkip?
[22:01] <olavxxx> I think its packed with ubuntu(?)
[22:01] <olavxxx> or some other distro
[22:01] <linuxape> DaSkreetch: yes it can
[22:01] <dwidmann> DrakeJustice_: well, I've had to remake the initrd, in accordance to instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto5, but it doesn't seem to have the script included in the initrd :\
[22:02] <kudar> is there another program besides networkmanager that we can use WPA with TKIP??
[22:02] <Merritt> olavxxx: I need this computer for work, so I can't run Beta KDE4 :)
[22:02] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: uncompress the initrd file and add the script
[22:02] <aziegler> so, neuer kubuntu user wirft mal n hallo inne RUnde :-)
[22:02] <server_> #italia
[22:03] <kudar> is there another program besides networkmanager that we can use WPA with TKIP??
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> aziegler: gruesse
[22:03] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: cat initrd.gz | gzip -d | cpio -i
[22:03] <dwidmann> DrakeJustice_: what should I use for the recompression though?
[22:03] <kudar> you guys can answer me anytime
[22:03] <kudar> i'll just keep asking
[22:03] <b1n42y> BRB
[22:03] <aziegler> jemand hier der mich auf deutsch mit meinem soundkarten problem supporten kann?
[22:03] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: find | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ./initrd.gz; sudo chmod 0644 ./initrd.gz
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> !info wlassistant | kudar
[22:03] <ubotu> kudar: wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7-2 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 688 kB
[22:04] <kudar> WaltzingAlong: thanks
[22:04] <WaltzingAlong> aziegler: auf deutsch gibt es #kubuntu-de
[22:04] <aziegler> thnx :-)
[22:04] <dwidmann> DrakeJustice_: okay, I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes
[22:04] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: help?
[22:04] <DrakeJustice_> dwidmann: ok
[22:04] <WaltzingAlong> !de | aziegler, bitte
[22:04] <ubotu> aziegler, bitte: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:04] <ScorpKing> eudemus: bookmark this - http://sh.nu/nvidia/gtf.php
[22:04] <WaltzingAlong> !info wifi-rada | kudar
[22:04] <ubotu> kudar: Package wifi-rada does not exist in gutsy
[22:04] <WaltzingAlong> !info kwifimanager | kudar
[22:04] <ubotu> kudar: kwifimanager: wireless lan manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 236 kB, installed size 804 kB
[22:04] <WaltzingAlong> !info wifi-radar | kudar
[22:04] <ubotu> kudar: wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB
[22:04] <kudar> WALTS: which one do you recommend?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> Merritt: Patience young un. 7 weeks
[22:05] <WaltzingAlong> kudar: i am using knetworkmanager (had been using manual prior to gutsy) and i am not using wpa with tkip
[22:05] <dick-richardson> I've compiled and installed alsa 1.0.15...can someone help me figure out why I still have no sound?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> linuxape: KSysguard? How?
[22:06] <DaSkreech> !kde4
[22:06] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[22:06] <alaskan> What's up...
[22:06] <orphemal> hellou somebody speak spanish ??!!
[22:06] <eudemus> ScorpKing: bookmarked that - not quite sure what to put in the boxes,nor what the output is supposed to do for me ... but perhaps you will explain ..... Cheers for all this.
[22:07] <alaskan> !es | orphemal
[22:07] <ubotu> orphemal: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:07] <orphemal> tnx xD
[22:07] <alaskan> Have the problems with upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy been worked out, or is it still safer to just do a clean install?
[22:07] <alaskan> np
[22:07] <DaSkreech> alaskan: Which problems are you talking about ?
[22:08] <alaskan> DaSkreech: Not sure, exactly. I'd heard of a lot of people having issues in here, e.g., the system hanging in the middle of the upgrade.
[22:08] <linuxape> DaSkreetch: make sure ksysguardd is running on each machine and then just attach to each server from ksysguard
[22:09] <linuxape> not at my machine so i can't be more specific
[22:09] <DaSkreech> alaskan: Oh that's cause the servers were being hammered
[22:09] <DaSkreech> linuxape: thanks mate
[22:09] <alaskan> DaSkreech: Oh ok. So things should be straight now?
[22:10] <reso> hi
[22:10] <linuxape> cheers
[22:10] <DaSkreech> alaskan: Sure if that's what you were worried about >_<
[22:10] <reso> Do you know which program I can use for streaming?
[22:10] <DaSkreech> linuxape: And the lazy get lazier :)
[22:10] <DaSkreech> !icecast
[22:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:10] <alaskan> DaSkreech: Cool, thanks.
[22:10] <alaskan> !info icecast
[22:10] <ubotu> Package icecast does not exist in gutsy
[22:10] <DaSkreech> !find icecast
[22:10] <ubotu> Found: icecast-server, icecast2
[22:11] <DaSkreech> !info icecast-server
[22:11] <ubotu> icecast-server: MPEG Layer III Streaming Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.12-15 (gutsy), package size 182 kB, installed size 728 kB
[22:11] <olavxxx> le crappie
[22:11] <linuxape> DaSkreetch: I don't see that as a problem
[22:11] <reso> ok
[22:12] <reso> thanks
[22:12] <Minataku> Oh, snap
[22:12] <Minataku> I thought Homestar's costume looked familiar
[22:12] <Minataku> Talk about partially unlocking a long-buried memory
[22:13] <Solifugus> is there a tool to compare what files are the same/missing across two different folders?
[22:13] <reso> there is an front-end program for shoutcast or its the only best?
[22:13] <DaSkreech> !info diff
[22:13] <ubotu> diff: File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-12ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 110 kB, installed size 744 kB
[22:13] <DaSkreech> Solifugus: ^^^
[22:13] <DaSkreech> reso: Oh You want to stream shoutcast?
[22:13] <reso> yes
[22:13] <DaSkreech> reso: or you want to make your own streaming server ?
[22:14] <DaSkreech> reso: Amarok does that
[22:14] <reso> stream shoutcast
[22:14] <reso> ok
[22:14] <DaSkreech> or Mplayer
[22:14] <DaSkreech>  actually who doesn't do it?
[22:14] <reso> :P
[22:14] <alaskan> DaSkreech: I've got a fair number of packages that are locally installed. Would you recommend purging those before I start the version upgrade, or should it be safe to just leave them?
[22:14] <Solifugus> DaSkreech: but that's for one file to another.. i am looking for a directory to another
[22:14] <DaSkreech> reso: Amarok -> playlists -> umm straming I think -> Shoutcast -> genre -> Server
[22:15] <DaSkreech> alaskan: what packages ?
[22:15] <lg188> hey wow ? ho wget ?
[22:15] <reso> thank you.
[22:15] <Solifugus> DaSkreech: I mean, what file are in one dir and not the other, for example
[22:15] <lg188> sudo aptitude search worldofwarcraft ?
[22:15] <DaSkreech> Solifugus: ah umm yeah there is a tool that does that
[22:15] <DaSkreech>  don't recall what it's called
[22:15] <olavxxx> has anyone here installed linuxmce on top of the kubuntu 7.04? Im  stuck after downloading disc 2.. lol
[22:15] <lg188> !wow
[22:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[22:15] <DaSkreech> Solifugus: You could just alias a ls of the folders and iff the two files :)
[22:15] <Solifugus> DaSkreech: maybe Krusader?
[22:16] <Solifugus> DaSkreech: good idea!
[22:16] <DaSkreech> lg188: Go to a store and buy it
[22:16] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: linuxMCE has a Kubuntu disc
[22:16] <DaSkreech> diff
[22:16] <ScorpKing> eudemus: type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[22:17] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: yes..but I first installed of a livecd.. which works.. then I downloaded the iso for the disc 2.. and it contains 2 .sh files..
[22:17] <DaSkreech> right
[22:17] <alaskan> DaSkreech: The KDE 3.5.7 packages from this repo - 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main' - along with a bunch of other miscellaneous ones from Medibuntu, Seveas, GetDeb, a few checkinstall ones, etc...
[22:17] <RLoggia> is anyone using an ATI graphics card?
[22:17] <frojnd> RLoggia, me me me
[22:17] <ScorpKing> eudemus: that site is to get the modeline for the display. x=1280 y=800 and refresh=83.50 (Hz)
[22:18] <ScorpKing> eudemus: try this one - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42745/
[22:18] <RLoggia> frojnd: when i enable the driver it gives me a screen error?
[22:18] <DaSkreech> alaskan: The files for KDE 3.5.7 will be updated to 3.5.8 Seveas and the rest will be disabled till gutsy upgrade is complete
[22:18] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: Yes.. I was able to burn this on a cd, but if I try to run the .sh files through the shell, I get permission denied
[22:18] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: who owns the files ?
[22:18] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: the cdrom? lol
[22:18] <alaskan> DaSkreech: So the upgrade process will automagically take care of all that?
[22:19] <frojnd> RLoggia, I haven't installed driver yet :(
[22:19] <lg188> DaSkreech ? you can get the clint onlien for free
[22:19] <ScorpKing> lg188: did you manage to install that game? ark or something.
[22:19] <RLoggia> oh
[22:19] <DaSkreech> lg188: For Worldofwarcraft?
[22:19] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: How do I run a .sh as a different user, through the shell then? sh filename.sh -u root ?
[22:19] <RLoggia> is anyone using ATI with installed driver lol?
[22:19] <Makdaam_> hello, which config file contains the repositories?
[22:19] <lg188> buey
[22:19] <alaskan> Makdaam_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:19] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: try sudo
[22:19] <alaskan> Makdaam_: Proceed with caution. :-)
[22:19] <lg188> ScorpKing i mamaged but i twond
[22:19] <DaSkreech> sudo filename.sh
[22:20] <Makdaam_> thx
[22:20] <alaskan> DaSkreech: You mean "sudo ./filename.sh", right?
[22:20] <darkman> hi
[22:20] <eudemus> ScorpKing: that's great. Btw, is there a way to check that the bus id is correct?
[22:20] <DaSkreech> Makdaam_: backups are good!
[22:20] <DaSkreech> alaskan: yeah
[22:20] <DaSkreech> Ok can I install LVM on a live cd?
[22:20] <ScorpKing> eudemus: lshw | less might show it.
[22:20] <DaSkreech>  I have to reboot to use LVM right ?
[22:20] <Makdaam_> DaSkreech: backups shmackups :P I'll just reinstall Ubuntu once more
[22:21] <darkman> anyone knows when wine 0.9.48 package would be in the repositorys?
[22:21] <alaskan> heh... DaSkreech: sorry to keep asking, just want to make sure as I'm upgrading my friend's laptop. I should be alright just leaving all those packages in place, right?
[22:21] <RLoggia> Xevious: you there?
[22:21] <DaSkreech> Makdaam_: 20 minutes reinstall vs 2 second cp
[22:21] <DaSkreech> Makdaam_: ok ;-)
[22:21] <ScorpKing> eudemus: not sure if this will help as well - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
[22:21] <DaSkreech> darkman: use Wine's repos
[22:21] <DaSkreech> darkman: they have a repo for Ubuntu on the wine site
[22:21] <darkman> i already use wine repos
[22:21] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: sudo: install.sh: command not found
[22:21] <DaSkreech> darkman: then they will have it
[22:21] <darkman> still no 48er....
[22:21] <Makdaam_> oh you mean backing up the file?
[22:22] <alaskan> olavxxx: sudo ./install.sh
[22:22] <Makdaam_> bah
[22:22] <darkman> for now only 0.9.47 on winehq repo
[22:22] <alaskan> olavxxx: Whenever the file you're trying to run isn't in your path, the "./" is required.
[22:22] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: ok.. now I only get permission denied
[22:22] <DaSkreech> for sudo ?
[22:22] <darkman> and im to lazy to compile it my self *G*
[22:22] <DaSkreech> darkman: And too impatient to wait?
[22:22] <olavxxx> I guess it's for the .sh file
[22:22] <olavxxx> "udo: unable to execute ./install.sh: Permission denied"
[22:22] <darkman> yes of course ^^
[22:23] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: udo ?
[22:23] <darkman> chmod install.sh
[22:23] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: it said sudo :P
[22:23] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[22:23] <alaskan> darkman: It's on a CD
[22:23] <darkman> oh
[22:23] <alaskan> Right, olavxxx?
[22:23] <darkman> just came in here xD
[22:23] <ScorpKing> darkman: winehq compile packages for ubuntu when a new version is available. check on their website.
[22:23] <alaskan> heh
[22:23] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: There is one thing.. " First, you have to install mce-installer, "
[22:23] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: There is no README or INSTALL file ?
[22:23] <olavxxx> where is the MCE installer?
[22:24] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: I'd assume on the cd :)
[22:24] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Installation_Guide#Kubuntu_Preinstalled
[22:24] <alaskan> Well, I'm off. Peace, y'all.
[22:24] <ScorpKing> c ya!
[22:24] <darkman> Official WineHQ builds for Linux Red Hat, Mandriva, SUSE, Slackware and FreeBSD, hosted by SourceForge.net. Updated with each release.
[22:24] <ScorpKing> lol.
[22:24] <darkman> October 26, 2007: Wine 0.9.48 Released
[22:24] <olavxxx> The CD contains two .sh files, one cache.list and two folders only :S
[22:25] <darkman> and still no package in repos *g*
[22:25] <eudemus> ScorpKing: bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0. Your file has Busid		"PCI:1:0:0". Are these the same? Do the leading zeros and punctuation make any difference?
[22:25] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: As I recall the Kubuntu MCE Cd assumes it's a blank machine and installs
[22:25] <ScorpKing> eudemus: that looks right. i didn't change it so it should work. did you make abackup?
[22:26] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: you are on feisty ?
[22:26] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: so.. I should download the "full install" instead of just cd2?
[22:26] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: I have just installed a clean kubuntu 7.04 as the page said
[22:26] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: You are on feisty?
[22:26] <DaSkreech> ok
[22:26] <olavxxx> I dont know what feisty is :P
[22:26] <DaSkreech> 7.04
[22:27] <olavxxx> ah, ok
[22:27] <dwidmann> I forget who I was talking to, but I've got the problem resolved now :)
[22:27] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: is there some way I could invite you to remote control?
[22:27] <dwidmann> My laptop is now a fully encrypted setup, yay.
[22:27] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: You did the steps on installing from command prompt ?
[22:27] <olavxxx> I tried..
[22:27] <olavxxx> the first steps worked
[22:27] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: how did you do that?
[22:28] <olavxxx> but then I got permission errors
[22:28] <DaSkreech> You can see the mce-installer.deb ?
[22:28] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: this one fialed sudo dpkg -i mnt/mce-installer_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
[22:28] <olavxxx> and afterwards I was unable to unmount or rm thedir
[22:28] <darkman> does anyone know why wine+world of warcraft+ati 8.42.3 doesn't work? i have to disable all pixel shaders....and got only 10 fps outside of buildings *g*
[22:29] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: several ways to accomplish it, I used a howto to do it manually called EncryptedFilesystemHowto5, which is on the ubuntu community docs, if you google for that, it should be the #1 hit.
[22:29] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: on the disc? there is no .deb there
[22:29] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: oh. just asking. i'm using loopback system and mounting with the passwd from a usb stick during boot.
[22:30] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: Ohh you burnt it to a CD ?
[22:30] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: I tried both
[22:30] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to get full acceleration on the ATI Radeon X800
[22:30] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: I can try mounting it again with a consone I run as root
[22:30] <darkman> mhm
[22:30] <ubuntu_> anyone?
[22:30] <john_it_is> well
[22:31] <darkman> dunnu what you mean @ubuntu_
[22:31] <darkman> :-P
[22:31] <john_it_is> my damn graphics card lags in some games
[22:31] <john_it_is> i thought this is like some support thing
[22:31] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: ok Where do you have it downloaded to?
[22:31] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: hmm, I thought that the loopback method was deprecated in favour of dm_crypt
[22:31] <darkman> i got an x1600
[22:31] <darkman> it also laggs xD
[22:31] <darkman> stuttering and so on....
[22:31] <john_it_is> i got an x800 and it would be nice to get all acceleration of it
[22:32] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: no idea but it works for me. ;)
[22:32] <darkman> but think i've managed to reduce them
[22:32] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: the desktop
[22:32] <john_it_is> btw stock dell optiplex GX620
[22:32] <darkman> did you tried the restricted modules @ john?
[22:32] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: When I try the dpkg -i mnt/ , it does not autocomplete on the mce*
[22:32] <dick-richardson> I'm running kubuntu gutsy and have downloaded the source code for alsa 1.0.15. I've compiled, made, and installed it but still have no sound. My soundcard is a bgears b-enspirer. I believe I'm missing a modules step of some sort somewhere and alsaconf doesn't appear to exist...
[22:32] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: pong
[22:33] <dick-richardson> lsmod | grep snd-cmi8788 does show the module
[22:33] <john_it_is> bump
[22:33] <Don_jr333> Can anyone tell me the package name for the kde desktop environment. I installed server only, all in text and I can't search properly
[22:33] <eudemus> ScorpKing: done and updated to /etc/X11/xorg.conf I guess I should now restart the x server .... I am sure there was a keyboard shortcut for that?
[22:33] <john_it_is> i love the kde desktop :)
[22:33] <john_it_is> thats wut im using
[22:33] <darkman> mh?
[22:33] <Don_jr333> I don't have X or anything right now, it's strictly a console install
[22:33] <john_it_is> good question why does kubuntu lag after awhile
[22:33] <darkman> if you couldn't get acceleration working, try envy
[22:33] <Don_jr333> I want kde on it, I thought I knew the package name, but I was wrong
[22:34] <ScorpKing> eudemus: control+alt+backspace. if it does not work log in an tty1 and restore the old xorg.conf.
[22:34] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: You made a dir called mnt on the desktop ?
[22:34] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: the manual says I should do "sudo dpkg -i mnt/mce-installer_2.0.1-1_i386.deb" , but if I try the autocomplete on the mnt/ dir, I get only the same as is on the disc2 which I downloaded and burned to a disc.. eg. two .sh files, one cache.list and two folders
[22:34] <darkman> my kubuntu x64 doesn't lagg
[22:34] <Don_jr333> so I need the entire kde desktop environment installed
[22:34] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: yep
[22:34] <ScorpKing> eudemus: one sec..
[22:34] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: oh so you have it mounted ?
[22:34] <Don_jr333> or a way to graphically search the repository
[22:34] <john_it_is> does anyone know if theres a defragmenter for kubuntu
[22:34] <NickPresta> Don_jr333, I believe you want the `kubuntu-desktop` package. That should make your system look and behave like you installed it from the LiveCD
[22:34] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: yeah, I guess its mounted.. Only thing is that it seems the .deb is not in there
[22:34] <ScorpKing> eudemus: if kdm does not start log in on tty1 and run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:34] <DaSkreech> !defrag | john_it_is
[22:34] <Don_jr333> thanks nickpresta I'll give that a shot
[22:34] <ubotu> john_it_is: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[22:35] <darkman> john....ext 2 and 3 file systems don't need a defragmenter....its not windows xD
[22:35] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: Ah hold on
[22:35] <john_it_is> then how come it lags after awhile
[22:35] <john_it_is> i been using ubuntu for almost 2 years now
[22:35] <darkman> bad machine :-P
[22:35] <john_it_is> and the only problem i have is with the lag
[22:35] <dwidmann> I've heard arguments against that, but I for the most part agree from my experience (speaking of filesystem fragmentation)
[22:35] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: this is CD2?
[22:36] <DaSkreech> john_it_is: Swap most likely
[22:36] <john_it_is> i dont have a swap installed :)
[22:36] <ScorpKing> john_it_is: do you have a swap partition?
[22:36] <john_it_is> no
[22:36] <darkman> i've set a whole HD as swap *lol* but don't need swap at all....2 GB RAM are enough for the moment
[22:36] <ScorpKing> john_it_is: that is the problem
[22:37] <darkman> lol john
[22:37] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: yes
[22:37] <DaSkreech> john_it_is: what's your load?
[22:37] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: try mount CD1 instead
[22:37] <NickPresta> Don_jr333, also, if you want a "graphical" way to browse the repos, install aptitude (if it isn't installed already). That provides a curses based interface to package management
[22:38] <john_it_is> my load
[22:38] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: I havent downloaded cd1 :p
[22:38] <darkman_> mhm...
[22:38] <reso> DaSkreech: my web server support only shoutcast...I can really connect on this server with amarok to play my playlist?
[22:38] <john_it_is> 384Mb being used right now
[22:38]  * ScorpKing giggles..
[22:38] <john_it_is> i have 4Gb in the system
[22:38] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: I think that's the one you need
[22:39] <kartika78>  Salve O ¤ « #kubuntu » ¤ -={®} |[ R3L04D3D.ScRiPt ]| {®}=-
[22:39] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: ah, yes.. I see it now, lol..
[22:39] <john_it_is> uhm "bash: !defrag: event not found"
[22:39] <DaSkreech> reso: Yeah
[22:39] <darkman_> maybe i got no wine update from winehq repos because im on x64 *g*
[22:39] <kartika78> hi all!
[22:39] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: it says sudo on cd1, lol
[22:39] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: Yes it does
[22:39] <olavxxx> lol
[22:39] <john_it_is> anyone know a command in kubuntu for a defragmenter
[22:39] <reso> Dask: ok
[22:39] <darkman_> john?
[22:39] <john_it_is> chyeah
[22:40] <darkman_> there is no defragmenter
[22:40] <ScorpKing> !defrag | john_it_is
[22:40] <ubotu> john_it_is: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[22:40] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: I misread somewhere else on the site that cd1 was for installing OS and cd2 for installing the linux MCE.. And I read you had two options, either A) download cd1 and cd2 and install it, or b) install livecd and then afterwards install cd2
[22:40] <kartika78> anyone can help me with my wifi?it worked ok, today i updated the linux headers and now it doesnt work
[22:40] <eudemus> ScorpKing: it's not gone well. Am on v v low resolution now .... ????
[22:40] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: but this means I have to download cd2 and test more :-)
[22:40] <darkman_> maybe you forgot to update the restricted modules?
[22:41] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: cd1 :P
[22:41] <darkman_> @kartika78
[22:41] <ScorpKing> eudemus: press control+alt+keypad+
[22:41] <olavxxx> oh nice, I get 1.2mb/s
[22:41] <olavxxx> cd2 I got at lousy 100kb/s
[22:41] <DaSkreech> :-)
[22:42] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: thanks for your great help, lol
[22:42] <ScorpKing> olavxxx: 100kb/s is fast. :P
[22:42] <olavxxx> ScorpKing: woot??
[22:42] <ScorpKing> lol
[22:42] <olavxxx> its too bad I live so far away from the dsl junction point
[22:42] <olavxxx> my line is "20 mbit"
[22:42] <darkman_> mh?
[22:42] <olavxxx> but I think it syncs at maybe 16
[22:42] <darkman_> me got only 250 KB's lol
[22:42] <eudemus> ScorpKing: makes no difference ... !
[22:42] <olavxxx> if I'm lucky
[22:43] <darkman_> :-P
[22:43] <DaSkreech> so anyone  know about LVM ?
[22:43] <olavxxx> I dont know whatthat is, lol
[22:43] <ScorpKing> eudemus: ugh. copy the old one back again.
[22:43] <olavxxx> has anyone tried running os off a 300x CF-card ?
[22:43] <hydrogen> !lvm
[22:43] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[22:44] <DaSkreech> If I install LVM on the live CD do I have to reboot to make use of it ?
[22:44] <olavxxx> strtoupper("os");
[22:44] <DaSkreech> hydrogen: Yes thanks :) but do I have to reboot to use it?
[22:44] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: wont you loose your changes when you reboot?
[22:44] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: Yes I will that's why I'm asking if I should even bother trying to do this
[22:44] <kartika78> can anyone give me a hand with my wifi?
[22:44]  * DaSkreech applauds kartika78
[22:45] <olavxxx> kartika78: I also had problems with the wifi.. it stopped at 28% or so while authenticating
[22:45] <ScorpKing> kartika78: what card do you have?
[22:45] <olavxxx> but that was before it started installing from the livecd, so I dont know if the drivers have been updated
[22:45] <kartika78> BCM43XX
[22:45] <ScorpKing> olavxxx: install wifi-radar
[22:45] <kartika78> until yesterday it worked
[22:45] <kartika78> i have it installed
[22:45] <olavxxx> ScorpKing: I'll se if I find it
[22:46] <ScorpKing> kartika78: same here. run lsmod | grep bcm
[22:46] <kartika78> the real problem happened when i upgraded the linux headers
[22:46] <ScorpKing> kartika78: i think the module does not load.
[22:46] <olavxxx> *installing wifi radar*
[22:47] <olavxxx> crap I hate my gamingpc, its noisy like hell
[22:47] <ScorpKing> olavxxx: it is because of encryption on the wifi network but wifi-radar seems to work well with it.
[22:47] <eudemus> ScorpKing: weirdest thing is that another session I have open (logged in as another user) displays fine ... shouldn't that be impossible if the x server has been restarted and is at a lower res?
[22:48] <olavxxx> ScorpKing: ok..
[22:48] <olavxxx> ScorpKing: I wont try messing with it, before I'm done downloading the cd1 of the linuxmce
[22:48] <ScorpKing> eudemus: that's what i said about different resolutions for different users.
[22:48] <olavxxx> wlan is slow anyways :S
[22:48] <kartika78> when i tipe lsmod | grep bcm
[22:49] <kartika78> i get nothing
[22:49] <olavxxx> ah, I cant wait.. I have disc1 in 1 minute 15 seconds:)
[22:49] <ScorpKing> kartika78: thought so. open /etc/modules as root
[22:50] <olavxxx> does the printscreen button work in kubuntu too?
[22:50] <kartika78> ok
[22:50] <olavxxx> if so,whats the equalivent of alt + printscreen (current window)
[22:50] <kartika78> bcm43xx is commented
[22:50] <eudemus> ScorpKing: you were indeed right! But where the heck is the relevant setting?!!
[22:50] <kartika78> but i have installed ndiswrapper
[22:50] <ScorpKing> kartika78: uncomment it
[22:51] <olavxxx> hey, that printscreen rocks!!
[22:51] <kartika78> so this should be the motive
[22:51] <kartika78> i must say another thing
[22:51] <kartika78> if i boot with the old linux header, it works fine
[22:52] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: Figures, it works now that I have the correct image, lol!
[22:52] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i have no idea. if you find it please let me know. it should be in the home dir of the user i think coz the users without sudo can set it. also look in kcontrol if you can set another resolution.
[22:52] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: whodathunk????
[22:52] <kartika78> the update i made is 2.6.20-15-generic --> 2.6.20-16-generic
[22:52] <olavxxx> how can I force-delete a folder?
[22:52] <olavxxx> even if its in use?
[22:53] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: rf -rf folder_name/
[22:53] <DaSkreech> olavxxx: When you press printscrenn it gives you a set of options to play with
[22:53] <ScorpKing> kartika78: you cal load the module with sudo modprobe <modulename>
[22:53] <ScorpKing> can*
[22:53] <DaSkreech>  olavxxx: I think you will ike it
[22:54] <kartika78> but i am not sure that module is right because i used ndiswrapper
[22:54] <olavxxx> DaSkreech: ohyeh.. now the installer is running :)
[22:54] <olavxxx> my eyes burn, but it was worth it
[22:54] <ScorpKing> kartika78: i don't have ndiswrapper here and it works. you might have to configure ndiswrapper again.
[22:55] <olavxxx> I guess it needs a reboot after installing this driver :)
[22:55] <ScorpKing> olavxxx: what are you doing? all i see is cd1, cd2 :P
[22:56] <kartika78> but if i write : ndiswrapper -l it returns : bcmwl5 driver installed device present .....
[22:56] <Lam_> how do i disable the descriptions for the menu items in k-menu?
[22:57] <ScorpKing> Lam_: try kmenuedit, maybe it's there.
[22:57] <Lam_> ScorpKing: ok i'll give that a try. thanks
[22:57] <ScorpKing> kartika78: the new kernel does not load the drivers.
[22:58] <Lam_> ScorpKing: nope not there. :/
[22:58] <kartika78> and how can i make it load?
[22:59] <ScorpKing> Lam_: press kmenu<TAB> . it's here
[22:59] <GuHHH> how can i search a text in every file in my system?
[22:59] <ScorpKing> kartika78: uncomment the module in /etc/modules or reinstall the driver in ndiswrapper
[22:59] <olavxxx> my poor kubuntu :( luckilly it repaired itself
[23:00] <kartika78> the strange thing is: if i run wifi radar it alternates between connected and disconnected.
[23:01] <ScorpKing> when eudemus comes back please tell him i'll be back tomorrow. he has weird problems with X.
[23:01] <ScorpKing> kartika78: then i don't know.
[23:02] <olavxxx> woot, I have to read more manual now :P
[23:02] <ScorpKing> nite guys! have fun.
[23:03] <angasule> hmm, kubuntu is 'restoring' the X screen settings when I boot, I want nvidia-settings' settings to remain
[23:03] <kartika78> :(
[23:06] <eudemus> ScorpKing: not sure what possessed me (well, it was someone else's advice on this channel actually) to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, but when I did everything was badly screwed! am only just back. But none the wiser about what the xorg settings should be nor how to adjust them for individual users.
[23:07] <Minataku> xorg settings are static for one machine
[23:07] <kartika78> is it possible that updating the kernel wifi messes up!? I think this is one motive why linux fails to diffuse
[23:07] <Minataku> You should set them once, and leave them
[23:07] <Minataku> Unless you change hardware, drivers or options
[23:07] <Minataku> Individual users only change their own settings within the DE
[23:08] <Minataku> And they should do this themselves, just set up their user and leave them to themselves
[23:08] <KalEl> not all the OpenGL screensavers are working for me... only a few are and all the rest seem dummies!
[23:08] <eudemus> Minataku: then how could it be that when I changed the xorg settings, and restarted x, the session logged in as a different user was unaffected by the changes?
[23:09] <Minataku> That would be the per-user settings
[23:09] <Minataku> Which should be changed by the user
[23:09] <eudemus> Minataku: where are they?
[23:09] <Minataku> These are likely the settings altered from the Control Center or whatever it is KDE calls it
[23:09] <GuHHH> can anyone help me with ldap?  http://pastebin.org/6544
[23:10] <olavxxx> lalala.. I cant wait :)
[23:10] <Minataku> The X server's resolution can be changed by unprivliged users
[23:10] <e0rlan> hi all
[23:10] <Minataku> It IS their X session, after all
[23:10] <Minataku> Note, this is the RUNNING resolution
[23:10] <Minataku> Not the default X11 resolution
[23:10] <Minataku> Which is what you see in KDM
[23:11] <darknet> un saludo desde Cuba a todos
[23:12] <eudemus> So, where do you change the running resolution? And how might it be possible for the running resolution to turn out different from the default X11 resolution immediately on login?
[23:12] <darknet> Hi for everyone
[23:12] <Minataku> I don't know, I don't use KDE
[23:12] <Minataku> As for how, that user has likely informed KDE that they wish for a different screen resolution
[23:13] <olavxxx> le crappie! unable to cache the disc.. I guess I have to copy the IMG file from the winDOS pc
[23:13] <Minataku> Similar to how any Windows user can change the screen resolution of a public machine unless access to the dialog is restricted (Note, though, that Windows does it really sloppily and stupidly)
[23:13] <Minataku> lol
[23:13] <darknet> I need help for kopete in Kubuntu 7.10
[23:14] <darknet> I behind proxy
[23:14] <KalEl> now that i have switched to kubuntu and have decided to nevery switch back after trying it for a while?, how can i get rid of gnome (in the interest of space)?
[23:14] <hellhound> can anyone help me with a "Gtk-Critical **: gtk_widget_get_parent_window: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed" error I am getting with a firefox theme?  I would rather not uninstall it as I like it  and I would like to fix the error
[23:14] <eudemus> Minataku: what are you doing here? ;-)
[23:14] <sp1nter> what program can i use to convert avis to mp4 ???
[23:15] <Minataku> Giving the more advanced assistance
[23:15] <Minataku> Helping liberate people from a GUI
[23:15] <Minataku> lol
[23:15] <KalEl> hellhound, i thought gtk was for gnome
[23:16] <Minataku> Lots of apps use GTK
[23:16] <Minataku> It's a GUI toolkit
[23:16] <darknet> some one speak spanish here??
[23:16] <Minataku> It's typically really ugly and makes crappy looking programs, and if you don't code it absolutely perfectly, it makes crappy RUNNING programs, too
[23:16] <olavxxx> ooh yeh.. now it works.. strange how it was unable to install with the cd as source
[23:16] <olavxxx> with 3 iso files, it worked instantly
[23:16] <darknet> some one speak spanish here??
[23:16] <Minataku> Firefox (and XChat) are two of the few GTK apps that run properly
[23:17] <Minataku> Though stupidly written themes can clearly break everything with one piece of bad code
[23:17] <Minataku> darknet: Don't ask things repeatedly
[23:17] <hellhound> KalEl: is it?  i did not know that.  I looked at my installs and I saw that I have gtk-qt-engine but none of the other gtk packages... do you know which one I might need?
[23:17] <Minataku> !es | darknet
[23:17] <ubotu> darknet: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:18] <olavxxx> the font/text looks much better on the plasma in kubuntu than it does in windoze
[23:19] <olavxxx> but I think maybe windows uses some font smoothing
[23:20] <sp1nter> Is there a program I can use to convert avi's to mp4 ?
[23:21] <darknet> un saludo a todos
[23:21] <darknet> alguien puede decirme como usar Kopete a travez de un proxy?
[23:21] <Minataku> !es | darknet
[23:21] <ubotu> darknet: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:21] <[ifr0g]> sp1nter, ffmpeg i suppose.
[23:21] <Minataku> What, you ask twice then ignore the answer? :P
[23:22] <Minataku> So impatient to get that answer, then he ignores it when he finally gets one :P
[23:22] <keith> apt-get wont start cos i put a bad url in what the name of the file I have to edit again?
[23:23] <pier> what is the name of the kubintu channel in french
[23:23] <kartika78> is there any who have had my same problem of wifi after update?
[23:23] <sp1nter> me or dark?
[23:24] <olavxxx> ok.. I think Ill let the pc do the work now and I'll head off to bed
[23:24] <pier> what is the name of the kubintu channel in french
[23:25] <pier> kubuntu sorry
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> !fr
[23:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:25] <KalEl> hellhound, sorry but i think you have to uninstall the firefox theme
[23:25] <[ifr0g]> kartika78, #bcm-users will be happy to help you !
[23:27] <[ifr0g]> !limewire
[23:27] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[23:28] <KalEl> i prefer gnutella
[23:28] <[ifr0g]> !FrostWire
[23:28] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[23:28] <[ifr0g]> Awesome !
[23:28] <hellhound> KalEl: yeah that is what i am reading in google as well... i would just like to fix it and base my own changed theme off it.... i was hoping that someone knew of a site to troubleshoot theme erorrs :) oh well... thank you
[23:29] <DrakeJustice_> frostwire + amule + emule rock... lol... classic pirate IRC's are nice too
[23:29] <KalEl> hellhound, you might want to try firefox (in their own irc server)
[23:30] <[ifr0g]> !java
[23:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[23:32] <hellhound> KalEl: great idea... i have been waiting on the mozilla channel for hours... i will look up firefox's server... Thank you again.
[23:32] <nikk_> is there any chance you can tell me how to install flash player on a AMD Turion 64 X2 processor
[23:33] <nikk_> i tried and nothng seem to work.  thiking of selling the system and just stick to i386 systems
[23:35] <justinfate> anyone know of a deb for a cksfv wrapper?
[23:35] <tekteen> can someone help me with my preseed file? It does not answer the questions but I do not get an error that it can't find the preseed. The file is pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42757/
[23:39] <nikk_> !kubuntu
[23:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[23:39] <kyron> dolphin will confuse my user...how do I set Konqueror back as the default File/folder browser? In file associations?
[23:41] <putterson> My graphics is running in software emulation instead of hardware mode and I have a 	Intel® 852GM chipset
[23:41] <putterson> and I have had ubuntu on this notebook with hardware opengl
[23:41] <putterson> so how would I fix it?
[23:42] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: what do you need with a preseed file?
[23:42] <tekteen> I am creating an auto cd
[23:43] <tekteen> I need to install ubuntu on many machines
[23:43] <tekteen> It needs to be "idiot proof" so anyone can use it
[23:44] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: ahh... h/o
[23:44] <tekteen> can u help
[23:45] <tekteen> ?
[23:45] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: installcd or livecd?
[23:45] <tekteen> installcd
[23:45] <tekteen> The file is pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42757/
[23:45] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: one sec
[23:45] <tekteen> thanx
[23:47] <tekteen> DrakeJustice_: I copied it from a online tutorial. I took only the parts I wanted.
[23:48] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: you may need the entireity of that tutorial... is it in the correct spot remaster/preseed/kubuntu.seed?
[23:48] <tekteen> yes
[23:48] <DrakeJustice_> _3v1n0_: the trevino?
[23:49] <ubuntu> spanish?
[23:49] <tekteen> thanks
[23:49] <purpleposeidon> xkill: unable to grab cursor
[23:49] <DrakeJustice_> tekteen: i dunno man, it looks good to me, maybe append your seed to the default kubuntu.seed
[23:49] <m1sha> Does anyone know anything about update-grub?
[23:49] <duydos> holaaa
[23:50] <duydos> algonespañol?
[23:50] <DrakeJustice_> m1sha: u ding up ur bootloader?
[23:50] <purpleposeidon> !es
[23:50] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:50] <duydos> algun español?
[23:50] <duydos> ok tanks
[23:50] <m1sha> DrakeJustice_: XD. Not completely, I'm just stuck using old kernels
[23:50] <DrakeJustice_> m1sha: why not edit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[23:51] <DrakeJustice_> nano works ok for me
[23:51] <DrakeJustice_> Trevinho: what brings you to #kubuntu today?
[23:51] <Trevinho> well, DrakeJustice_ I'm always here....
[23:51] <m1sha> DrakeJustice_: why not hand compile the new kernel?
[23:51] <Trevinho> or better, konversation has it on its preferred channels...
[23:52] <DrakeJustice_> Trevinho: oh, im new here... im just amazed to see your name... your a legend man...
[23:52] <m1sha> I can, but it would be nice to get update-grub working, especially since it's an integral part of ubuntu
[23:52] <Trevinho> lol, you joke :)
[23:52] <m1sha> Trevinho: ever googled yourself?
[23:53] <Trevinho> sometime....
[23:53] <DrakeJustice_> yea Tevinho is a seiously googled name
[23:55] <crazy6> will kubuntu do any sort of data migration from an old install, as in automatically save the /home dirs and duplicat the users?
[23:55] <crazy6> or will I need to do that manually?
[23:56] <[ifr0g]> u have to do it manually
[23:56] <crazy6> blasted hell
[23:56] <crazy6> I better find a big memory stick or an external drive
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> Uh
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> crazy6- upgrading, or doing a clean install?