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Ubulettewhat is the max size for a ppa ?00:19
gnomefreak1 gig00:19
gnomefreakUbulette: you can ask for more but 1 gig is max atm00:19
Ubulettei'm already at 850M :P00:20
gnomefreaklol00:20
gnomefreakthats why im not pushing alot ot ppa00:20
gnomefreaki have to fix sunbird hopfully tomorro00:21
gnomefreaktomorrow00:21
gnomefreakbut i have to figure out how to use the script, anyway good night00:21
Ubulettei wanted to do sunbird head with xul1.9 but i guess I have to forget ppa00:22
FujitsuUbulette: Or ask for a larger PPA.00:24
UbuletteFujitsu, how/where ?00:25
FujitsuUbulette: Not sure. Maybe a question on the launchpad or soyuz project.00:26
Ubulettei do mostly mozilla stuff so it's big but i'm trying to make those beasts smaller by sharing the xul core00:26
PeakerWhen I created my branch it asked me to give it a public key. Is there a URL I can go to to give Launchpad my public key?00:45
Peakeralso, how do I allow others to push into my branch?00:46
FujitsuPeaker: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys00:46
PeakerFujitsu: thanks!00:47
FujitsuYou would have to create a team, and move the branch into that team.00:47
PeakerIs there a way to move the branch to be trunk?00:48
FujitsuPeaker: For a project?00:48
Peakeryeah00:49
Fujitsuhttps://launchpad.net/someproject/trunk/+source should let you do it.00:49
PeakerFujitsu: thanks again00:51
FujitsuNo problem.00:51
PeakerI can't find my branch in the search dialog there though00:52
Peakerof the bzr/no-source-control branch selection00:53
PeakerI try to use my launchpad branch for this, it says its an invalid value, its not in the branch search either00:53
FujitsuPeaker: What's the name of the branch?00:55
PeakerI called it main in my project, the URL turned out to be bzr+ssh://eyal-lotem%2Blaunchpad@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eeyal-lotem%2Blaunchpad/enough/main00:55
Peakernot sure what name I should use here, but eyal main and enough are not finding any branches in the search dialog00:55
FujitsuPeaker: Try using ~username/project/branch.00:56
Ubulettegasp, numbers were not uptodate. i'm over a gig now: 40 source packages (327.2 MiB)  273 binary packages (705.3 MiB)  Estimated archive size: 1.0 GiB00:57
Ubulettei'm gonna fire a question :)00:57
FujitsuUbulette: Hah.00:57
FujitsuPeaker: Hm, typing in main found it in the search.00:57
PeakerFujitsu: oh how did I miss that? sorry :)00:59
FujitsuGreat, seems to be set up now :)00:59
FujitsuBut I need to leave now.01:00
Peakerwho has write access to a branch? I don't see where I can specify that01:22
Peakerhow light-weight is a launchpad branch? is it ok to create one for each little feature I am developing? will they share a bzr repository?01:27
g2g591i'm having trouble uploading to my ppa, even though dput says it is successful, the build doesn't appear in the status page01:38
g2g591hello?01:40
Peakerin other words, how can I create multiple hosted branches in the same repository?01:40
g2g591when i try to upload my package to my ppa they don't appear in the page listing the status of the build (https://edge.launchpad.net/~g2g591/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all)01:41
g2g591never mind01:42
cprov-outg2g591: have you received an email ?01:42
cprov-outg2g591: saying that your upload was *accepted* ?01:43
g2g591i just checked and now finally my latest attempt got through01:43
cprov-outg2g591: once you receive the mentioned email your source should appear in the list (+you/+archive) and the builds will be created within approximately 30 minutes01:44
g2g591ok sounds good01:46
Peakerafter a bit of research it seems that launchpad requires me to upload the entire repository/history for every branch I make. this makes hosted branches not really an option when it comes to creating one-per-feature, is this the case?01:54
jmlPeaker: depends on the size of your branch :)02:01
jmlPeaker: we are working on ways to make hosted branches share information.02:02
Peakerwell if the repo was shared the size of the branch would be around the size of a revision ID I'd suppose :)02:02
Peakerwouldn't it make sense to have either 1 repository per project, or a repository entity a project can have multiple of, and each branch live inside a repo?02:03
PeakerI assume bzr is smart about pushing to a branch inside a remote repository - knowing it only has to send stuff not in the remote repo02:03
jmlPeaker: there are certain trust issues with sharing repositories.02:04
Peakercan't you let users handle these? Let the user who creates a repo specify who has access to it?02:05
jmlthat might well work.02:07
Peakeroops, killing dcopserver is not a good idea :)02:09
Peakerdid you reply? Sorry if I missed it - about why using repo's is a problem?02:16
Peaker(at least if users specify who can access it)02:16
jmlPeaker: all I said was that what you suggested might well work.02:17
jmlPeaker: in any case, our problem isn't that we don't know how to do it, our problem is that days are too short.02:18
Peakerjml: sleep is a poor substitute for coffee02:18
PeakerI think I saw the blueprint say the motivation is that you save storage space, which may be one02:19
Peakerbut I think the users benefit a lot too - because they can push new branches in no-time02:19
jmlright.02:19
Peakerbtw: You host the branches with no working trees, I assume?02:19
jmlwe're aware of that, we just wanted to focus on one problem at a time. :)02:19
jmlright.02:19
Peakerdoes bzr allow doing that easily?02:19
jmlyes. by default, push doesn't create a working tree.02:20
Peakeroh, that simple :)02:20
Peakerdamn I love bzr :)02:20
jmlme too.02:20
* jml -> lunch02:21
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ubotuNew bug: #158570 in soyuz "Please allow multiple PPAs per user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15857006:30
ubotuNew bug: #152746 in bzr "bzr commit to bzr+ssh hangs on 'No handlers could be found for logger "bzr"'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15274607:01
ubotuNew bug: #158574 in soyuz "+archive doesn't show all packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15857407:25
carlosmorning07:49
mdkeis there any way to report errors on codebrowse?08:26
mdkeI get errors when trying to browse into a directory at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files08:26
mdke500 Internal Error08:26
mdkejust a regular Launchpad bug? I don't see a subproject for it08:28
mwhudsonmdke: file a bug?08:28
mwhudsonwell, let me look first08:28
mwhudsonoh08:29
mdkeah, is it the launchpad-bazaar project I want?08:30
mwhudsonwell08:31
mwhudsonit's a known bug this one08:31
mwhudsonsee the last couple of comments in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/8828608:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 88286 in loggerhead "Loggerhead does not escape special characters when embedding a revision ID in a URL" [Medium,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Robey Pointer (robey)08:31
mwhudsoncherrypy 'helpfully' converts any %2Fs in the url to /s08:31
mwhudson(in *addition* to the usual url-decoding)08:32
mdkeright. I'm worried by the "can't be fixed" comment :)08:32
mwhudsonprobably the fix is "dump cherrypy"08:32
mdkehmm. And is there any other way to browse branches until then?08:33
mwhudsonif it's any consolation, it will become less of a problem as you start using bazaar, as then the revids of the revisions you are browsing won't be url-encoded paths08:33
mdkeI suppose that is some consolation, yeah08:33
mwhudsonwell, fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/138021 would certainly ameliorate the problem08:34
mdkealthough that particular branch is historical so we won't get many revisions to it08:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138021 in launchpad-bazaar "loggerhead should generate links based on revision numbers and file paths" [Undecided,Confirmed] 08:34
warp10Hi all08:34
mdkeshall we reopen the first bug you mention?08:34
mwhudsonmdke: perhaps file a new, more specific one08:35
mdkemwhudson: would you do it? i don't really know what it's all about08:36
mwhudsonmdke: ok08:39
mwhudsonmdke: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/15858408:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New] 08:42
mdkemwhudson: thanks. Is there no way simply to view the working tree without having to worry about revision ids and such? ala svn08:45
mwhudsonwell08:46
mwhudsonlinks like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:?file_id=2698%401e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9%3Atrunk%3Awebsite-index _work_08:47
mdkewhoosh08:47
mwhudsonbut as loggerhead doesn't generate them itself, actually browsing like this is a total pain08:47
mwhudsoni'm flying to the us tomorrow and was thinking about working on this sort of stuff in the airport and on the plane _anyway_08:48
mdkethat would be nice :)08:48
mdkeit seems to me, at least maybe because I'm used to svn, that basic functionality of browsing a working tree shouldn't be impeded by having advanced functionality like revisions and history and so on08:49
mwhudsonwell, the tree-based view of the world is very entrenched in svn08:49
mdkethese long urls scare me, too08:50
mwhudsonthere's a different bug for that :)08:50
mdkeit may be entrenched, but viewing the working tree is really useful08:50
mdkeespecially if I want to show someone a single file without asking them to checkout the whole branch08:51
ubotuNew bug: #158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15858408:51
mwhudsonhttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:/website-index08:51
mdkemwhudson: anyway, I'll subscribe to the bugs :)08:54
mdkethanks for your help08:54
mwhudsonmdke: no worries08:54
mwhudsonmdke: it's a problem i've known about for a while, this is the first time someone other than me has complained about it though08:55
mwhudsongives me a bit more impetus to do something about it08:55
mdkecool08:57
mdkeour migration to bzr has been a bit bumpy!08:57
mwhudson:(08:58
mwhudsonit would be good to get a mail about it sent to the bazaar list08:59
mdkeok, will do.09:00
mwhudsonit's something that we'd really like to be easy, of course09:06
ubotuNew bug: #158593 in launchpad "Java take more cpu and memory " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15859310:05
mwhudsonthat's a quality bug report10:11
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proppyhi10:57
proppyhow to de-assign myself from a but I was assigned to ?10:57
proppys/but/bug :)10:57
mwhudsonmdke: thanks11:01
matsubaraproppy, click the down arrow icon near the assignee name and choose Nobody11:02
proppymatsubara: thanks11:03
matsubaraproppy, np11:04
bigonhi, could a lp admin remove empathy - 0.21.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2 from the telepathy ppa?11:20
ubotuNew bug: #158633 in launchpad "No "at" sign with Kubuntu 7.10 GB/Internl kbd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15863312:06
* Fujitsu wonders why people do that.12:06
Fujitsu`Notifying you of bugs or difficulties in your program closely resembles an obstacle race.'12:07
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effie_jayxanyone here to offer a little help on plural forms for rosseta?12:46
Tonio_hi there12:47
Tonio_I have a little question concerning the ppa12:47
Tonio_is it using itself as a packages source during the build ?12:48
FujitsuTonio_: It builds against itself, yes.12:48
Fujitsu(you can see the sources.list being overridden near the start of the build log)12:48
Tonio_Fujitsu: nice, I couldn't do my current work without this :)12:48
Tonio_Fujitsu: ho okay, will have a look at that :)12:48
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ubotuNew bug: #158668 in malone "It should be possible to have the bug description in bug notifications" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15866813:41
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ubotuNew bug: #158680 in launchpad-answers "Create link for Question # to that Launchpad Answer page " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15868014:05
ubotuNew bug: #158692 in malone "Import a bug from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15869214:21
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ubotuNew bug: #158696 in malone "Add a report on upstream bug status for a distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15869614:31
ubotuNew bug: #158697 in malone "Push comments to debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15869714:31
jelmeris there some way to disable the list of existing bugs when users are reporting a bug?14:44
Hobbseewhy would you want to?14:44
jelmerthey now simply comment on bugs that appear similar to theirs but are different14:45
ubotuNew bug: #158700 in malone "Request documentation for e-mail interface via e-mail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870014:45
jelmerlaunchpad has the ability to mark bugs as duplicates14:45
ubotuNew bug: #158701 in malone "Import comments from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870114:45
ubotuNew bug: #158702 in malone "Import comments from Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870214:45
ubotuNew bug: #158703 in malone "Import comments from Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870314:45
ddaathat's interesting14:45
jelmerbut can't split existing bugs14:45
jelmerafaik14:45
mrevelljelmer: Is this becoming a problem for bzr?14:46
jelmerit's happening for bzr-svn14:46
mrevellright14:46
jelmernot really a problem yet, but I thought I'd bring it up14:46
mrevellThanks, it's an interesting point. Do you have any example bug numbers?14:46
ddaaI think it makes sense to give project owner a choice between "more duplicate" and "more off-the-mark comments"14:46
jelmermrevell: bug 5383714:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 53837 in bzr-svn "Rename support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53837 - Assigned to Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer)14:48
ddaaeffectively, disabling the "guided bug filing" for a project means "do not look for duplicates before filing a bug", which is not the usual policy as I understand it, but it can make sense for arcane things like bzr-svn.14:48
jelmerddaa: ultimately, a "change this comment into separate bug" option would be what I'm looking for14:48
mrevelljelmer: That's pretty much a support request. It reminds me of the projects that people create to request a ShipIt CD.14:49
jelmermrevell: this particular one was an actual bug (it hsa now been fixed)14:50
mrevellAh right14:50
ubotuNew bug: #158705 in malone "Push comments to Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870514:50
ubotuNew bug: #158708 in malone "Push comments to Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870814:50
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ddaajelmer: "turn this comment into a new bug report" sounds like useful functionality, albeit tricky to get right. Can you file a bug about it?14:52
ddaaand better than "disable duplicate search when filing new bugs"14:53
jelmeryes, will do14:53
jelmerthanks for commenting14:53
ubotuNew bug: #158710 in malone "Import comments from Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15871014:55
Daviey"me to" button would be equally useful IMO.. helps gauage Importiance15:01
ubotuNew bug: #158715 in malone "When a bug already has watches, offer them when adding a new task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15871515:05
jelmerDaviey: me too :-)15:08
jelmerSubscribers is usually a good indication though15:09
Davieytrue.. but there are bugs that relate to me.. that i don't sub' to.15:10
DavieyAnd i'm sure there are others.15:10
ubotuNew bug: #158704 in malone "Push comments to Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15870415:13
ubotuNew bug: #158718 in launchpad "ability to split bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15871815:16
ubotuNew bug: #158732 in malone "Make it more obvious how to add another package to a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15873215:40
ubotuNew bug: #158741 in launchpad "need a way for downloads with multiple related files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15874116:10
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ignasis launchpad available in other languages?16:41
ignasi seem to be unable to find the place in which i could set it to some different language...16:42
gmbignas: Not at the moment, no.16:43
ignasi see16:43
gmbI'm not sure if there are plans to internationalize it or not.16:43
ignasis it possible to file new bugs using email?16:45
Kmosignas: yes16:48
gmbignas: See https://help.launchpad.net/BugTrackerEmailInterface for details.16:49
Kmos!email16:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:56
TeeCee---hello16:57
TeeCee---can somebody help me with a "launchpad-question"? :p16:58
beunoTeeCee---, go ahead and ask  :D17:00
TeeCee---hehe... I'm looking for a specific string in a specific package, that I want to translate... How do I find this string in this package? :p17:01
TeeCee---btw: the package i'm talking about is Nautilus... I've seen a translation-bug in Ubuntu 7.10 which I want to fix..:)17:02
beunoTeeCee---, not possible at the moment, that's open as bug #4417:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 44 in rosetta "Translations should be searchable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44 - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo)17:03
TeeCee---ubotu: Ok... that's exactly what I also found out..;) hehe17:03
beunoTeeCee---, he's a bot that searches for bug descriptions when someone mentions a number  :D17:04
TeeCee---hehe... He said so..;)17:04
ignashow do you generate a cookie.txt for launchpadbugs.connector.Connector ?17:35
ignasi want to be able to post bugs to launchpad through the UI of my application so users would not need to create new logins, or go through complicated forms ...17:36
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mptjelmer, does putting "THIS BUG IS NOT ABOUT Y, IT'S ABOUT X" in the description help?17:55
jelmer /wii mpt17:58
jelmerwhoops17:58
mptI don't havea Wii :-)17:58
jelmer:-)17:58
jelmermpt: the problem is, it's very hard for a user to decide whether the bug is related because the tracebacks look quite similar17:59
mptfair enough17:59
mptthat's an interesting problem18:00
mptSo you'd rather handle duplicates entirely yourself, rather than encouraging reporters to do it18:00
mptbbl, more testing to do18:01
Rinchenhow is the user testing going mpt?18:02
ZelutRinchen: ping18:37
Rinchenhi Zelut 18:37
ZelutRinchen: I was referred in here looking for someone that can help me get rights on an LP team.18:38
ZelutRinchen: currenty activity/leadership seems dead (as well as the mailman list, but that has been taken care of), so we're looking for someone that can try to take the reigns.18:39
RinchenZelut, file a question against LP for the admins.  That's the correct course, stating your situation18:39
ZelutRinchen: the admins like Ng, etc? the canonical admins?18:41
RinchenLP admins18:41
Zelutwhere would I do that? (LP, outside of +filebug is a bit of a mystery to me still) :)18:41
RinchenZelut, LP answers against the LP project18:44
RinchenZelut, I'll get you a url as soon as LP wakes up :-)18:44
ZelutRinchen: thank you18:50
mptyay slashdotting19:10
beunompt, you survived digg but not slashdot?19:12
mptDigg? What's that?19:13
mpt;-)19:13
beunohahah19:13
Rinchenactually, the fridge was digged this morning, and LP just a short bit ago19:14
RinchenWe are popular. :-)19:14
mptSo lots of people seeing my grinning face, eek19:14
beunoI though digg was much worse on dumping traffic, I don't follow half the links in slashdot since the summary/comments are usually enough, as oposed to digg where the link is the only useful thing...19:16
ymlhello launchpaders,19:50
ymlI would like to know if it is possible to close a bug in launchpad when I commit in bazaar?19:51
mwhudsonyml: not yet19:55
ymlok, I was just asking19:57
yml:-)19:57
ymljust in case19:57
mwhudsonyml: it's somewhat on the radar19:58
ymlmwhudson: great20:00
Nafallohopefully will never be.20:01
Nafallochange the status to committed would be good though.20:01
Nafallobut not fix released until upload.20:01
mwhudsonuh, right20:06
mwhudsonthat kind of detail is one of the reasons it hasn't been done yet :)20:06
Nafallo:-)20:06
twogoodanyone else seeing timeout errors when reporting bugs right now? (i tried from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+filebug)20:11
twogoodthird attempt got to the next step...20:11
Rinchenhi twogood, are you still having timeouts?20:21
twogoodRinchen: seems to be working fine now, at least if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/158810 is as submitted as it looks like! :-) sorry for crying wolf... 20:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 158810 in xserver-xgl "Evolution folder tree is not always redrawn when using fglrx and Xgl" [Undecided,New] 20:21
Rinchentwogood, thanks. :-)20:22
ubotuNew bug: #158811 in rosetta "rosetta-pofile-stats cron script lacks pythonpath import" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15881120:30
LaserJockis Hardy the default build release for PPAs now?20:58
ubotuNew bug: #158834 in launchpad-bazaar "Code hosting base URL is incorrect in Staging Config" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15883421:06
ubotuNew bug: #158841 in launchpad "In pagetests/README.txt indicate these rules only apply to sample data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15884121:11
FujitsuLaserJock: It's whatever you put in the changelog...21:19
LaserJockthey fixed that?21:20
ubotuNew bug: #158848 in launchpad "clicking a tab on a search results page expected to show that facet of the search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15884821:20
ubotuNew bug: #158847 in soyuz "changelog display fails to display author information in many cases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15884721:21
FujitsuLaserJock: It always has been.21:23
FujitsuAnd that bugs a dupe.21:23
Fujitsu*bug's21:23
LaserJockit used to be PPA uploaded to the current development, you had to specify the the upload path to override21:24
FujitsuNo, I was always able to upload to previous releases with just the right changelog.21:24
LaserJockhmm, odd21:25
FujitsuThe manual override is only for stuff like copying sources from Debian and the like, where the distribution is unstable. But that in itself is a flawed concept.21:25
LaserJockI guess the manual override was for if I didn't want to mess with changelog to build something21:26
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asabilhi all21:44
FujitsuHi asabil.21:47
asabilI wanted to register a project under the name : "people"21:47
asabilbut it got refused21:47
Fujitsuasabil: Right, `people' is a reserved name.21:48
FujitsuYou probably want to choose a different one.21:48
asabilwhy ?21:49
asabilreserved for whom ?21:49
FujitsuBecause /people is a list of people.21:49
FujitsuAnd groups.21:49
asabil:/21:51
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ddaaasabil: you can call your project something like "people-project", this only affects the URL of the project and the short name used in some forms. It does not affect how the project name is displayed in page content.22:30
asabilok thanks ddaa :)22:31
asabilI will22:31
ddaaasabil: pick that name carefully though, once you have created it you need to ask an administrator if you want to change the name.22:32
ubotuNew bug: #123440 in apport "apport bad gateway error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12344023:55

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