[00:19] what is the max size for a ppa ? [00:19] 1 gig [00:19] Ubulette: you can ask for more but 1 gig is max atm [00:20] i'm already at 850M :P [00:20] lol [00:20] thats why im not pushing alot ot ppa [00:21] i have to fix sunbird hopfully tomorro [00:21] tomorrow [00:21] but i have to figure out how to use the script, anyway good night [00:22] i wanted to do sunbird head with xul1.9 but i guess I have to forget ppa [00:24] Ubulette: Or ask for a larger PPA. [00:25] Fujitsu, how/where ? [00:26] Ubulette: Not sure. Maybe a question on the launchpad or soyuz project. [00:26] i do mostly mozilla stuff so it's big but i'm trying to make those beasts smaller by sharing the xul core [00:45] When I created my branch it asked me to give it a public key. Is there a URL I can go to to give Launchpad my public key? [00:46] also, how do I allow others to push into my branch? [00:46] Peaker: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editpgpkeys [00:47] Fujitsu: thanks! [00:47] You would have to create a team, and move the branch into that team. [00:48] Is there a way to move the branch to be trunk? [00:48] Peaker: For a project? [00:49] yeah [00:49] https://launchpad.net/someproject/trunk/+source should let you do it. [00:51] Fujitsu: thanks again [00:51] No problem. [00:52] I can't find my branch in the search dialog there though [00:53] of the bzr/no-source-control branch selection [00:53] I try to use my launchpad branch for this, it says its an invalid value, its not in the branch search either [00:55] Peaker: What's the name of the branch? [00:55] I called it main in my project, the URL turned out to be bzr+ssh://eyal-lotem%2Blaunchpad@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eeyal-lotem%2Blaunchpad/enough/main [00:55] not sure what name I should use here, but eyal main and enough are not finding any branches in the search dialog [00:56] Peaker: Try using ~username/project/branch. [00:57] gasp, numbers were not uptodate. i'm over a gig now: 40 source packages (327.2 MiB) 273 binary packages (705.3 MiB) Estimated archive size: 1.0 GiB [00:57] i'm gonna fire a question :) [00:57] Ubulette: Hah. [00:57] Peaker: Hm, typing in main found it in the search. [00:59] Fujitsu: oh how did I miss that? sorry :) [00:59] Great, seems to be set up now :) [01:00] But I need to leave now. [01:22] who has write access to a branch? I don't see where I can specify that [01:27] how light-weight is a launchpad branch? is it ok to create one for each little feature I am developing? will they share a bzr repository? [01:38] i'm having trouble uploading to my ppa, even though dput says it is successful, the build doesn't appear in the status page [01:40] hello? [01:40] in other words, how can I create multiple hosted branches in the same repository? [01:41] when i try to upload my package to my ppa they don't appear in the page listing the status of the build (https://edge.launchpad.net/~g2g591/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all) [01:42] never mind [01:42] g2g591: have you received an email ? [01:43] g2g591: saying that your upload was *accepted* ? [01:43] i just checked and now finally my latest attempt got through [01:44] g2g591: once you receive the mentioned email your source should appear in the list (+you/+archive) and the builds will be created within approximately 30 minutes [01:46] ok sounds good [01:54] after a bit of research it seems that launchpad requires me to upload the entire repository/history for every branch I make. this makes hosted branches not really an option when it comes to creating one-per-feature, is this the case? [02:01] Peaker: depends on the size of your branch :) [02:02] Peaker: we are working on ways to make hosted branches share information. [02:02] well if the repo was shared the size of the branch would be around the size of a revision ID I'd suppose :) [02:03] wouldn't it make sense to have either 1 repository per project, or a repository entity a project can have multiple of, and each branch live inside a repo? [02:03] I assume bzr is smart about pushing to a branch inside a remote repository - knowing it only has to send stuff not in the remote repo [02:04] Peaker: there are certain trust issues with sharing repositories. [02:05] can't you let users handle these? Let the user who creates a repo specify who has access to it? [02:07] that might well work. [02:09] oops, killing dcopserver is not a good idea :) [02:16] did you reply? Sorry if I missed it - about why using repo's is a problem? [02:16] (at least if users specify who can access it) [02:17] Peaker: all I said was that what you suggested might well work. [02:18] Peaker: in any case, our problem isn't that we don't know how to do it, our problem is that days are too short. [02:18] jml: sleep is a poor substitute for coffee [02:19] I think I saw the blueprint say the motivation is that you save storage space, which may be one [02:19] but I think the users benefit a lot too - because they can push new branches in no-time [02:19] right. [02:19] btw: You host the branches with no working trees, I assume? [02:19] we're aware of that, we just wanted to focus on one problem at a time. :) [02:19] right. [02:19] does bzr allow doing that easily? [02:20] yes. by default, push doesn't create a working tree. [02:20] oh, that simple :) [02:20] damn I love bzr :) [02:20] me too. [02:21] * jml -> lunch [05:01] Hi! [05:01] Launchpad is down [05:01] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [05:01] Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. [05:01] Thanks for your patience. [05:02] Fixed [06:30] New bug: #158570 in soyuz "Please allow multiple PPAs per user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158570 [07:01] New bug: #152746 in bzr "bzr commit to bzr+ssh hangs on 'No handlers could be found for logger "bzr"'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152746 [07:25] New bug: #158574 in soyuz "+archive doesn't show all packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158574 [07:49] morning [08:26] is there any way to report errors on codebrowse? [08:26] I get errors when trying to browse into a directory at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files [08:26] 500 Internal Error [08:28] just a regular Launchpad bug? I don't see a subproject for it [08:28] mdke: file a bug? [08:28] well, let me look first [08:29] oh [08:30] ah, is it the launchpad-bazaar project I want? [08:31] well [08:31] it's a known bug this one [08:31] see the last couple of comments in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/88286 [08:31] Launchpad bug 88286 in loggerhead "Loggerhead does not escape special characters when embedding a revision ID in a URL" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Robey Pointer (robey) [08:31] cherrypy 'helpfully' converts any %2Fs in the url to /s [08:32] (in *addition* to the usual url-decoding) [08:32] right. I'm worried by the "can't be fixed" comment :) [08:32] probably the fix is "dump cherrypy" [08:33] hmm. And is there any other way to browse branches until then? [08:33] if it's any consolation, it will become less of a problem as you start using bazaar, as then the revids of the revisions you are browsing won't be url-encoded paths [08:33] I suppose that is some consolation, yeah [08:34] well, fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/138021 would certainly ameliorate the problem [08:34] although that particular branch is historical so we won't get many revisions to it [08:34] Launchpad bug 138021 in launchpad-bazaar "loggerhead should generate links based on revision numbers and file paths" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:34] Hi all [08:34] shall we reopen the first bug you mention? [08:35] mdke: perhaps file a new, more specific one [08:36] mwhudson: would you do it? i don't really know what it's all about [08:39] mdke: ok [08:42] mdke: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loggerhead/+bug/158584 [08:42] Launchpad bug 158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New] [08:45] mwhudson: thanks. Is there no way simply to view the working tree without having to worry about revision ids and such? ala svn [08:46] well [08:47] links like http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:?file_id=2698%401e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9%3Atrunk%3Awebsite-index _work_ [08:47] whoosh [08:47] but as loggerhead doesn't generate them itself, actually browsing like this is a total pain [08:48] i'm flying to the us tomorrow and was thinking about working on this sort of stuff in the airport and on the plane _anyway_ [08:48] that would be nice :) [08:49] it seems to me, at least maybe because I'm used to svn, that basic functionality of browsing a working tree shouldn't be impeded by having advanced functionality like revisions and history and so on [08:49] well, the tree-based view of the world is very entrenched in svn [08:50] these long urls scare me, too [08:50] there's a different bug for that :) [08:50] it may be entrenched, but viewing the working tree is really useful [08:51] especially if I want to show someone a single file without asking them to checkout the whole branch [08:51] New bug: #158584 in loggerhead "can't browse to revisions whose revid contains %2F in loggerhead/codebrowse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158584 [08:51] http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/feisty/files/head:/website-index [08:54] mwhudson: anyway, I'll subscribe to the bugs :) [08:54] thanks for your help [08:54] mdke: no worries [08:55] mdke: it's a problem i've known about for a while, this is the first time someone other than me has complained about it though [08:55] gives me a bit more impetus to do something about it [08:57] cool [08:57] our migration to bzr has been a bit bumpy! [08:58] :( [08:59] it would be good to get a mail about it sent to the bazaar list [09:00] ok, will do. [09:06] it's something that we'd really like to be easy, of course [10:05] New bug: #158593 in launchpad "Java take more cpu and memory " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158593 [10:11] that's a quality bug report === LarstiQ_ is now known as LarstiQ === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 [10:57] hi [10:57] how to de-assign myself from a but I was assigned to ? [10:57] s/but/bug :) [11:01] mdke: thanks [11:02] proppy, click the down arrow icon near the assignee name and choose Nobody [11:03] matsubara: thanks [11:04] proppy, np [11:20] hi, could a lp admin remove empathy - 0.21.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2 from the telepathy ppa? [12:06] New bug: #158633 in launchpad "No "at" sign with Kubuntu 7.10 GB/Internl kbd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158633 [12:06] * Fujitsu wonders why people do that. [12:07] `Notifying you of bugs or difficulties in your program closely resembles an obstacle race.' === kiko_ is now known as kiko === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:46] anyone here to offer a little help on plural forms for rosseta? [12:47] hi there [12:47] I have a little question concerning the ppa [12:48] is it using itself as a packages source during the build ? [12:48] Tonio_: It builds against itself, yes. [12:48] (you can see the sources.list being overridden near the start of the build log) [12:48] Fujitsu: nice, I couldn't do my current work without this :) [12:48] Fujitsu: ho okay, will have a look at that :) === elkbuntu is now known as elkbirthday === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:41] New bug: #158668 in malone "It should be possible to have the bug description in bug notifications" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158668 === kiko_ is now known as kiko [14:05] New bug: #158680 in launchpad-answers "Create link for Question # to that Launchpad Answer page " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158680 [14:21] New bug: #158692 in malone "Import a bug from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158692 === salgado is now known as salgado-brb [14:31] New bug: #158696 in malone "Add a report on upstream bug status for a distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158696 [14:31] New bug: #158697 in malone "Push comments to debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158697 [14:44] is there some way to disable the list of existing bugs when users are reporting a bug? [14:44] why would you want to? [14:45] they now simply comment on bugs that appear similar to theirs but are different [14:45] New bug: #158700 in malone "Request documentation for e-mail interface via e-mail" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158700 [14:45] launchpad has the ability to mark bugs as duplicates [14:45] New bug: #158701 in malone "Import comments from debbugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158701 [14:45] New bug: #158702 in malone "Import comments from Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158702 [14:45] New bug: #158703 in malone "Import comments from Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158703 [14:45] that's interesting [14:45] but can't split existing bugs [14:45] afaik [14:46] jelmer: Is this becoming a problem for bzr? [14:46] it's happening for bzr-svn [14:46] right [14:46] not really a problem yet, but I thought I'd bring it up [14:46] Thanks, it's an interesting point. Do you have any example bug numbers? [14:46] I think it makes sense to give project owner a choice between "more duplicate" and "more off-the-mark comments" [14:48] mrevell: bug 53837 [14:48] Launchpad bug 53837 in bzr-svn "Rename support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53837 - Assigned to Jelmer Vernooij (jelmer) [14:48] effectively, disabling the "guided bug filing" for a project means "do not look for duplicates before filing a bug", which is not the usual policy as I understand it, but it can make sense for arcane things like bzr-svn. [14:48] ddaa: ultimately, a "change this comment into separate bug" option would be what I'm looking for [14:49] jelmer: That's pretty much a support request. It reminds me of the projects that people create to request a ShipIt CD. [14:50] mrevell: this particular one was an actual bug (it hsa now been fixed) [14:50] Ah right [14:50] New bug: #158705 in malone "Push comments to Trac" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158705 [14:50] New bug: #158708 in malone "Push comments to Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158708 === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [14:52] jelmer: "turn this comment into a new bug report" sounds like useful functionality, albeit tricky to get right. Can you file a bug about it? [14:53] and better than "disable duplicate search when filing new bugs" [14:53] yes, will do [14:53] thanks for commenting [14:55] New bug: #158710 in malone "Import comments from Bugzilla" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158710 [15:01] "me to" button would be equally useful IMO.. helps gauage Importiance [15:05] New bug: #158715 in malone "When a bug already has watches, offer them when adding a new task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158715 [15:08] Daviey: me too :-) [15:09] Subscribers is usually a good indication though [15:10] true.. but there are bugs that relate to me.. that i don't sub' to. [15:10] And i'm sure there are others. [15:13] New bug: #158704 in malone "Push comments to Roundup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158704 [15:16] New bug: #158718 in launchpad "ability to split bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158718 [15:40] New bug: #158732 in malone "Make it more obvious how to add another package to a bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158732 [16:10] New bug: #158741 in launchpad "need a way for downloads with multiple related files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158741 === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [16:41] is launchpad available in other languages? [16:42] i seem to be unable to find the place in which i could set it to some different language... [16:43] ignas: Not at the moment, no. [16:43] i see [16:43] I'm not sure if there are plans to internationalize it or not. [16:45] is it possible to file new bugs using email? [16:48] ignas: yes [16:49] ignas: See https://help.launchpad.net/BugTrackerEmailInterface for details. [16:56] !email [16:56] Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [16:57] hello [16:58] can somebody help me with a "launchpad-question"? :p [17:00] TeeCee---, go ahead and ask :D [17:01] hehe... I'm looking for a specific string in a specific package, that I want to translate... How do I find this string in this package? :p [17:02] btw: the package i'm talking about is Nautilus... I've seen a translation-bug in Ubuntu 7.10 which I want to fix..:) [17:03] TeeCee---, not possible at the moment, that's open as bug #44 [17:03] Launchpad bug 44 in rosetta "Translations should be searchable" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44 - Assigned to Данило Шеган (danilo) [17:03] ubotu: Ok... that's exactly what I also found out..;) hehe [17:04] TeeCee---, he's a bot that searches for bug descriptions when someone mentions a number :D [17:04] hehe... He said so..;) [17:35] how do you generate a cookie.txt for launchpadbugs.connector.Connector ? [17:36] i want to be able to post bugs to launchpad through the UI of my application so users would not need to create new logins, or go through complicated forms ... === Edwin- is now known as Edwin [17:55] jelmer, does putting "THIS BUG IS NOT ABOUT Y, IT'S ABOUT X" in the description help? [17:58] /wii mpt [17:58] whoops [17:58] I don't havea Wii :-) [17:58] :-) [17:59] mpt: the problem is, it's very hard for a user to decide whether the bug is related because the tracebacks look quite similar [17:59] fair enough [18:00] that's an interesting problem [18:00] So you'd rather handle duplicates entirely yourself, rather than encouraging reporters to do it [18:01] bbl, more testing to do [18:02] how is the user testing going mpt? [18:37] Rinchen: ping [18:37] hi Zelut [18:38] Rinchen: I was referred in here looking for someone that can help me get rights on an LP team. [18:39] Rinchen: currenty activity/leadership seems dead (as well as the mailman list, but that has been taken care of), so we're looking for someone that can try to take the reigns. [18:39] Zelut, file a question against LP for the admins. That's the correct course, stating your situation [18:41] Rinchen: the admins like Ng, etc? the canonical admins? [18:41] LP admins [18:41] where would I do that? (LP, outside of +filebug is a bit of a mystery to me still) :) [18:44] Zelut, LP answers against the LP project [18:44] Zelut, I'll get you a url as soon as LP wakes up :-) [18:50] Rinchen: thank you [19:10] yay slashdotting [19:12] mpt, you survived digg but not slashdot? [19:13] Digg? What's that? [19:13] ;-) [19:13] hahah [19:14] actually, the fridge was digged this morning, and LP just a short bit ago [19:14] We are popular. :-) [19:14] So lots of people seeing my grinning face, eek [19:16] I though digg was much worse on dumping traffic, I don't follow half the links in slashdot since the summary/comments are usually enough, as oposed to digg where the link is the only useful thing... [19:50] hello launchpaders, [19:51] I would like to know if it is possible to close a bug in launchpad when I commit in bazaar? [19:55] yml: not yet [19:57] ok, I was just asking [19:57] :-) [19:57] just in case [19:58] yml: it's somewhat on the radar [20:00] mwhudson: great [20:01] hopefully will never be. [20:01] change the status to committed would be good though. [20:01] but not fix released until upload. [20:06] uh, right [20:06] that kind of detail is one of the reasons it hasn't been done yet :) [20:06] :-) [20:11] anyone else seeing timeout errors when reporting bugs right now? (i tried from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+filebug) [20:11] third attempt got to the next step... [20:21] hi twogood, are you still having timeouts? [20:21] Rinchen: seems to be working fine now, at least if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/158810 is as submitted as it looks like! :-) sorry for crying wolf... [20:21] Launchpad bug 158810 in xserver-xgl "Evolution folder tree is not always redrawn when using fglrx and Xgl" [Undecided,New] [20:22] twogood, thanks. :-) [20:30] New bug: #158811 in rosetta "rosetta-pofile-stats cron script lacks pythonpath import" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158811 [20:58] is Hardy the default build release for PPAs now? [21:06] New bug: #158834 in launchpad-bazaar "Code hosting base URL is incorrect in Staging Config" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158834 [21:11] New bug: #158841 in launchpad "In pagetests/README.txt indicate these rules only apply to sample data" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158841 [21:19] LaserJock: It's whatever you put in the changelog... [21:20] they fixed that? [21:20] New bug: #158848 in launchpad "clicking a tab on a search results page expected to show that facet of the search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158848 [21:21] New bug: #158847 in soyuz "changelog display fails to display author information in many cases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158847 [21:23] LaserJock: It always has been. [21:23] And that bugs a dupe. [21:23] *bug's [21:24] it used to be PPA uploaded to the current development, you had to specify the the upload path to override [21:24] No, I was always able to upload to previous releases with just the right changelog. [21:25] hmm, odd [21:25] The manual override is only for stuff like copying sources from Debian and the like, where the distribution is unstable. But that in itself is a flawed concept. [21:26] I guess the manual override was for if I didn't want to mess with changelog to build something === superm1_ is now known as superm1 [21:44] hi all [21:47] Hi asabil. [21:47] I wanted to register a project under the name : "people" [21:47] but it got refused [21:48] asabil: Right, `people' is a reserved name. [21:48] You probably want to choose a different one. [21:49] why ? [21:49] reserved for whom ? [21:49] Because /people is a list of people. [21:49] And groups. [21:51] :/ === bac_afk_ is now known as bac === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [22:30] asabil: you can call your project something like "people-project", this only affects the URL of the project and the short name used in some forms. It does not affect how the project name is displayed in page content. [22:31] ok thanks ddaa :) [22:31] I will [22:32] asabil: pick that name carefully though, once you have created it you need to ask an administrator if you want to change the name. [23:55] New bug: #123440 in apport "apport bad gateway error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123440