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SloggerKhanquestion for anyone: With the orange and black for Hardy, is it planned to be orange on black, or black on orange, or undecided?00:33
kwwiiSloggerKhan: I would say more orange on black than vice versa although with the right artwork it might also be ok to do black on orange00:37
SloggerKhanSo is the whole system going to be more or less an inverted color scheme?00:38
kwwiiSloggerKhan: not sure what you mean by inverted00:39
SloggerKhanInverted is where pretty much for the whole theme, everything is light on dark. So, for example, the system font color would be orange or white or some such to show on a black title bar, and all icons would be non-black to show on black, and so on. Whereas you could also have a non inverted scheme that was still mostly orange on black by using black as more of a background color.00:43
SloggerKhanBut I guess that's more of a digression. You envision black as a more heavily used color either way.00:45
kwwiinow I understand...let me explain things a but00:50
kwwiibit00:50
SloggerKhank00:50
kwwiiwe are not planning on making the control/widgets for all apps black00:50
kwwiiwe have discussed making some media apps use dark controls though00:50
kwwiithe orange on black is more about the wallpaper, splash screens, usplash, gdm, etc00:51
SloggerKhanok00:52
kwwiiwe spent today going over a lot of this stuff, there will be much more information very soon00:52
SloggerKhank00:53
SloggerKhanthanks00:53
kwwiihappy to help00:57
darkmatterkwwii: should do it like my local setup. a nice easy on the eyes general theme for the desktop with application overrides for gimp, inkscape etc using a nice dark colorscheme (blacks a wee bit to dark. deep gray ala dark gilouche is better imho)03:25
darkmatteronly one issue in that regard. I know a bug was submitted about fixing it. but currently metacity draws its colours from the desktop theme. the bug filed was suggesting it look at which theme the application was using instead03:30
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artnayhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyTheme nice to see cimi and macslow mentioned13:40
terlmannthis applet is cute14:23
terlmannhttp://www.jwirc.com/chat.html14:23
* terlmann basks in the 13 pages of comments on his ONE measly forum post in the ubuntu forums several weeks ago... *cuddles*14:24
terlmannhey guys I am on vacation... just wanted to drop in.14:24
terlmannsome really interesting comments in there.... Pity little if any know what "wiki" means14:27
terlmannnothlit : nice layout in the wiki :-)14:28
terlmannin the /Incoming page there could be a few more lines to point users to ~/Hardy , perhaps a description or two of the links there, but it looks NICE14:30
terlmannhey kwwii ! got a template of colors yet ?14:35
terlmann...14:36
* terlmann *slithers* *starts timer* *begins tickling #*14:40
lassegulnothlit, you awake?14:44
* terlmann grabs lassegul and drags him upstairs14:45
* terlmann whispers " their all zombies !!!"14:45
terlmannobscure ?14:45
lassegulterlmann, a little14:45
terlmann:-)14:45
terlmannhave you seen that thread man ?14:46
terlmannI could wear it like a sweater14:46
terlmannpages and pages of comments14:46
lassegulwhat thread?14:46
terlmannsome might be a little thin though14:46
* terlmann shivers14:46
terlmannthe one over on the forums14:46
lasseguldo you have a link, maybe?14:46
terlmannits on the front page in the art forum14:47
terlmannon the ubuntu forums14:47
terlmannhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56568514:47
lassegulwhat am i supposed to read from this?14:49
terlmannsomeone needs to follow this up with some sort of "MASTER HOW-TO :participate in artwork"14:50
terlmannas all good howtos go of course, in the forums :-)14:50
lassegulyeah, thats probably good. why dont you direct them to the wikis, ask them to post their stuff their, instead of in the thread.14:50
terlmannmore than just that14:51
terlmannwe have artists who are total noobs as far as the word "wiki", "rules" , and "quality" are concerned who might be better if a good ol classical howto thread was posted in the forum...14:52
terlmannall the best howtos are there :-)14:52
terlmannnothlit ... I take my words back.. your wiki is counter-instinctive and harder to use... I just hope you have some good plans for the ubuntu-art.org site14:53
kwwiiandreasn: http://sinecera.de/HARDY_EXAMPLES.tar.bz216:27
nothlit...lololol18:14
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kwwiihi nothlit18:58
kwwiiI am starting to put information together for the Hardy design page18:58
nothlitcool, are you going to wikify it or should we?19:03
kwwiinothlit: working directly in the wiki...once I get a bit further I will let you know and you can tell me how ugly it is and all the things that I forgot :p19:23
andreasnkwwii: looks like you dig your music ;)19:26
darkmattergood afternoon my lil' hoomans :)19:27
kwwiiandreasn: definitely :-)19:27
kwwiiI waited until I got to america to buy this CD19:27
andreasnkwwii: what is it+19:27
andreasn?19:27
kwwiiben harper19:29
kwwiilassegul, nothlit, andreasn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign20:33
Yodudehello21:08
Yodudeadreasn: are u there ?21:09
Yodudeandreasn: are you there ?21:09
andreasnYodude: in a meeting21:09
Yodudeoh k21:10
Yodudewhen the meeting is over tell me21:14
nothlitkwwii: i'd just include 3 or 4 of the most salient examples and keep the rest in the zip for d/l--in terms of palette ideas i think we'd need something more selective in spectrum to convey the concept itself, but thats all pretty useless until we have a few :)21:37
nothlitkwwii: its not ugly, just really long already =p, and not under Hardy/Default or Hardy/Official but i'm guessing you'll move it once its more complete21:38
Yodudehello, i just wanted to ask you guys if i could help renewing the "mark all upgrades" icon in synapti21:41
lassegulYodude, what have you got?21:42
Yodudelasselgul: nothing at the moment, but i have an idea21:43
Yodudewe could use the computer icon found in "Places" in the gnome menu21:44
Yodudecombined with a arrow icon pointing upwards21:44
Yodudeno ?21:44
Yodude=-O21:46
Yodudelassegul: don't you think ??21:48
lassegulthat might be smart, but i dont think theres a point in doing this before hardy, because hardy will have new computer- and arrowicons.21:49
Yodudeoh21:49
Yodudehehe21:49
lasseguland if you make it now, only you and maybe I will use it :)21:50
Yodudebut nevertheless, it's important to combine the two icons in hardy21:50
Yodudei mean the updated ones21:50
Yodudecuz the existing icon really truly STINKS21:50
Yodudeit's nowhere near the ubuntu-icons level21:50
lassegulmaybe, i dont know if its a good icon idea anyway.21:50
lassegulbut i agree that this one sucks.21:50
Yodudehehe21:51
Yodudeand it's just a matter of layering the two icons ina a way to create a new one, piece of cake21:51
Yodudeand hey can i ask you something ?21:51
Yodudeandreasn: is it true that hardy will abadon the brown human theme ?21:54
darkmatterpleeeease say its true21:57
darkmattereverytime I see the default them I'm reminded of my sons caca when he was an infant ;)21:57
darkmatter*theme21:57
Yodudethe new one might be just orange21:59
Yodudeorange is fine21:59
andreasnYodude: hey, back22:01
andreasnYodude: finally finished with the logout dialog discussion22:02
andreasnYodude: so what's up?22:04
Yodudei suggested merging the arrow icon with the computer icon22:05
Yodudebut your friend just notified me that those 2 icon will be changed in gutsy22:05
Yodudeso there's no point in merging them now22:05
andreasnin Synaptic?22:06
lassegulThe new main colors will be black and orange. For further, but not complete, information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign22:06
Yodudeyeah22:06
andreasnah, I see22:06
Yodudewe should wait first to have the updates icons22:06
andreasnyeah22:06
Yodudethen we can blend them22:07
andreasnwe have lots of other icons we need to fix though22:07
Yodudelike what ?22:07
andreasndo you want to draw a new icon for gobby?22:07
Yodudebtw orange and black is ROCKIN' !22:07
Yodudegobby ?!22:13
Yodudeyou mean the collaborative editor ?22:13
Yodudeandreasn: u still there ?22:15
andreasnyes22:17
andreasnyes, that one22:17
Yodudeso, humm22:17
Yodudei already have an idea22:17
Yodudeusing the gedit icon, i can modify it to create a variant to show collaboration22:18
Yodudeor do you want the gobby icon to be unique ?22:18
andreasnlassegul had some ideas22:19
Yodudelike ?22:19
andreasnhold on22:20
andreasnuploading the photo of his sketches22:21
andreasnhttp://andreasn.se/diverse/temp/gobby-sketch.jpg22:25
andreasnI kind of like the one in the left corner22:25
andreasnwith the sheet and several pencils22:25
Yodudeit is good but i think the one with one pencil held by several hands is more fit to the application22:26
andreasnyou should often try to avoid hands in icons though22:30
andreasndifferent cultures etc.22:30
Yodudei know they're pretty hard i just thought of it22:30
Yodudeyes and that22:31
Yodudeok then let's move to the pencils22:31
Yodudebtw just a quick question, do you use the GIMP or Inkscape ?22:31
andreasninkscape is probably best22:32
Yodudehey i just had an idea22:33
Yodudewhy not put draw a sheet of paper like the one found in the text editor icon22:34
Yodudeand then draw 3 pencils on it22:34
Yodudebut put them in positiong that mimick the ubuntu logo22:34
Yodudein a circle22:34
andreasnhm, sounds a bit weird22:37
andreasnworth a shot though22:37
andreasnneed to run off to dinner22:38
andreasncatch you later!22:38
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nothlithttp://www.engadget.com/2007/10/22/wacom-adds-a-baby-cintiq-the-12wx-tablet-display/23:09
nothlitand tomorrow is international self portrait day :)23:09

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