/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/10/30/#ubuntu-ops.txt

* LjL thanks nrrd00:00
gnomefreaklow level troll?00:08
gnomefreaklike shorter than a normal size troll?00:09
LjLgnomefreak: one with conditional branches and bitshifts and stuff00:09
Tm_Tgnomefreak: yes00:09
Seeker`a troll that trolls in machine code?00:09
Seeker`10100010101111010101101100001101111100:09
jdongno0tic: can we help you?00:20
no0ticjdong, still triggering...00:20
naliothoverlords kittens00:30
no0tic?00:30
naliothno0tic: i'm a poet  :)00:31
Piciand you don't know it?00:31
no0ticit's a reprise? You've already written that before00:32
naliothi'm building to a crescendo00:36
naliothbe patient00:36
nalioth:000:36
mneptokhe says that to all the girls00:49
no0ticmneptok, I don't know what you think.. but I'm not a beautiful girl..00:51
mneptokno0tic: you have time. and we have alcohol.00:51
no0ticmneptok, I don't think you'll like it00:52
LjLi could say the same to you00:52
no0ticuhm.. every single minute I spend in here I become a bit more scared00:54
mneptokdon't worry. that feelings stops when you die.00:55
no0ticI'm confident00:55
mneptok:)00:55
mneptokwith an answer like that, you'll be just fine00:56
LjLdepending on your definition of "fine"00:56
no0ticI'm not sure that _you_ will be fine01:00
no0ticok, I think this chat is going nowhere01:01
mneptokFIAT LUX!01:02
no0tica new italian car model?01:02
mneptokLatin, sweetie.01:02
mneptok:)01:02
LjLthat was old when i was born01:02
PiciThey had cars when you were born?01:03
LjLthey had commodore 64s when i was born01:03
mneptokthere wasn't a computer smaller than a room when i was born :(01:04
no0ticI know, but evidently nobody in fiat ever thought about that01:04
mc44mneptok: weren't you at school with Charles Babbage?01:04
LjLno0tic: as idiotic as they might be, they probably realize it'd make a terrible pun.01:04
mneptokmc44: no. he was later. i graduated with Gotama Siddartha and Hammurabi01:05
LjLmc44: don't joke about babbage now, he's my favorite loser01:05
no0ticLjL, it could be the top level model01:05
LjLno0tic: it would break down every saturday01:06
no0ticLjL, I missed that01:07
mneptoki wonder if you could turn off the headlights ...01:07
no0ticmneptok, I think it would shine by its own light isotropically in space01:08
LjLno0tic: e si riposò nel settimo giorno01:08
no0ticLjL, subtle01:08
mneptoki just saw "LjL" and "subtle" together in a sentence. i can die happy.01:09
Madpilotbot attack in #u?02:00
Tm_Tapparently02:00
Dave2LjL, some of them were registered.02:00
Tm_They02:01
Dave2most, in fact.02:01
Picihm. That didnt set off any of my hilights.02:01
Tm_Tanyone have oprights in +1 and -motu ?02:01
naliothTm_T: why do you ask?02:01
Madpilotdail soap? wtf?02:01
Tm_Tnalioth: this hoora46 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-c3c5a358d3a38d4b]02:01
Madpilotdial, even02:01
naliothTm_T: if it's the same guy in #ubuntu, they're taken care of02:02
LjLDave2: yeah i've been an idiot, i should have set +m right away not +r02:02
Tm_Tnalioth: he is one of those random idlers behind tor02:02
LjLbut when i send the +m command it was too late, i was already been flooded02:02
Tm_Tnalioth: "they're taken care of" ?02:03
LjLi wonder 1) who "yacc" is 2) why he *always* joins -unregged02:03
naliothTm_T: all the bots/zombies/whatever took the k-train02:03
PiciI'm guessing a healthy dose of vitamin K-line02:03
Tm_Tnalioth: hmm02:03
Tm_Tif I see those, what should I do?02:04
Tm_Tban? remove? leave alone?02:04
LjLnalioth: gone, uh02:04
naliothLjL: unfortunately, we can only kline 'em as we see 'em02:05
naliothi DO wish i were prescient, cuz i'd have already won every lottery in the USA02:06
Tm_Ter02:10
Tm_Thum02:11
Tm_Thum er hum02:11
Picibah, humbug02:11
Tm_Tnalioth: no, I believe we are talking about different bot issue then if you claim them being klined02:13
Tm_Tgood morning Hobbsee 02:15
Hobbseeheya Tm_T!02:16
jdongno0tic: can we help you?02:16
LjLis "rowan" known?02:16
Tm_Tno0tic: topic?02:17
PiciI dont know him.02:17
Tm_TLjL: who is he?02:17
no0ticer..02:17
* no0tic is an -it op :D02:17
PiciThen again, I don't usually hang out in #ubuntu in the evening (US east coast) time.02:17
Tm_Tno0tic: too late =)02:17
LjL[03:17:42] --> Rprp has joined this channel (n=Rprp@cc763024-b.groni1.gr.home.nl).02:17
LjLthis is a troll's nickname02:18
no0ticTm_T, my automessage_on_join_#ubuntu-ops plugin doens't work02:18
Tm_T:(02:18
no0ticI'm not able to catch the "join" event02:19
PiciWhy not try catching the <jdong> no0tic: can we help you?02:19
Tm_TPici: thats too late02:19
no0ticPici, it could be simpler, but I want something jdong independent02:20
Picidont we all..02:20
PiciI don't really know what that means. *shrug*02:21
HobbseeLjL: indeed.02:21
Tm_T:(04:34
stdinJoshuaxiong1 needs a kb imo (#ubuntu)06:54
ubotustdin called the ops in #ubuntu06:54
Madpilotalready gone06:55
stdinwasn't what I first said it ;)06:55
MadpilotI just set a ban to stop that idiot, but it's kind of a crude wide ban - don't keep it up long06:56
Madpilotcool, now I'm being taunted by PM06:57
Madpilotidiot06:57
Madpilot!staff06:58
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)06:58
stdinthat's what /ignore was made for, and k-lines06:58
MadpilotJoshuaxiong1 needs a kline06:58
Madpilotmassive attempted PM & DCC spam on me, now that he can't get to #u06:59
Madpilotthree DCC spam attacks on me now. thankfully my irc client has always been immune to that crap07:03
Madpilotneed sleep. night all, have fun with the trolls.07:06
GNinei still do not understand your reason for banning me from -offtopic for saying "monoamine oxidase" which is a naturally occurring brain enzyme. moa42 should have been banned the second he/she suggested i should go "kill myself".  yet your course of action was entirely different. now, is there a time limit to this "ban" directive?07:16
Tm_Tuhm07:18
GNineis that an acronym ?07:20
Tm_Tno07:20
GNine"can you do un-bannings" or just like in vampire lore it has to be undone by the same op that issued it07:22
GNineso no one cares.. good.. i thought someone might get curious as to what am i talking about .. 07:25
GNinei like the sound of white noise.. makes me sleepy..  like rain07:27
Tm_TGNine: ummm, just to help you there...07:27
Tm_Tyou're not helping yourself with that attitude07:27
GNinei like being creative when i type .. attitude is to be interpreted .. 07:28
Tm_Tyes yes07:28
Tm_T!patience | GNine 07:29
ubotuGNine: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:29
GNinewell.. i assumed that (...) was for technical enchilada .. this is hardly the case..  but ok.. 07:30
GNineheh07:31
jussi01Morning all.07:41
Tm_Tis AM_3 etc some known ?07:46
jdongno0tic: can we help you?08:40
* no0tic is... well the same as yesterday08:41
jussi01no0tic: you are op in -it yes?08:45
no0ticjussi01, yes :)08:45
Tm_T:(09:43
ubotuIn ubotu, ebrahim said: !Utnubu is a subproject of the Debian Project. One of Ubuntu's activities is frequently copying packages from Debian to Ubuntu. See http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu10:08
ebrahimHi all! Got my suggestion to add Utnubu?10:09
Mez@time boston10:14
Vorian6:27am In Boston10:27
* Seeker` wonders if Vorian has become a bot :P10:28
Vorianon a very laggy connection :D10:29
Tm_Twhat, Vorian isnt a bot?!10:34
* TheSheep pokes Vorian 10:35
Tm_Telkbuntu: what suggestion?10:35
Tm_Tebrahim: I mean10:35
* Tm_T hides10:35
TheSheep*toc* *toc*10:35
Vorian:)10:36
ebrahim !Utnubu is a subproject of the Debian Project. One of Ubuntu's activities is frequently copying packages from Debian to Ubuntu. See http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu10:38
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, ebrahim said:  !Utnubu is a subproject of the Debian Project. One of Ubuntu's activities is frequently copying packages from Debian to Ubuntu. See http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu10:38
ebrahimTm_T, OK?10:39
Tm_TI see10:40
ebrahim !Utnubu is a subproject of the Debian Project. One of Ubuntu's activities is frequently copying packages from Debian to Ubuntu. Well, Utnubu is about the reverse, copying packages from Ubuntu to Debian. See http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu10:41
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, ebrahim said:  !Utnubu is a subproject of the Debian Project. One of Ubuntu's activities is frequently copying packages from Debian to Ubuntu. Well, Utnubu is about the reverse, copying packages from Ubuntu to Debian. See http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu10:41
jdongno0tic: can we help you?11:25
no0ticer..11:26
jdongno0tic: can we help you?11:35
Hobbseehe's an op11:35
Pician -t op11:35
jdongno0tic: can we help you?11:42
no0ticsorry.. wifi problems here in university..11:42
Hobbseeany xchat gurus here?12:13
PriceChildHobbsee, I'm an xchat user.....?12:18
Hobbsee_PriceChild, that probably works12:19
Hobbsee_#1:  why can i only make a picture for the text window only - ont the userlist, or the channel list?12:19
PriceChildCould you rephrase the question? :)12:20
PriceChildI haven't a clue what picture you're making :/12:20
Hobbsee_try to put a picture as the background for xchat12:21
Hobbsee_it only does the text window12:21
PriceChildaha...12:22
PriceChildwell that's what it says it'll do :P12:22
Hobbsee_how do i make one take over the entire window?12:22
PriceChildI haven't a clue sorry.12:22
Hobbsee_:(12:23
PriceChildwhy are you wanting to set a picture?12:23
Hobbsee_because white is boring?12:23
Hobbsee_well, grey, as it were12:24
PriceChildcracky kde user....12:24
Hobbsee_heh12:24
PriceChildYou could run compiz and do alt+scrollwheel :P12:24
Hobbsee_that's true12:25
Hobbsee_at least i've stopped it from sorting alphabetically now12:25
PriceChildWhat's sorting alphabetically? the channel list?12:25
Hobbsee_yes12:25
PriceChildgah i'd get lost if i didn't do that12:25
Hobbsee_oh, urgh12:26
Hobbsee_you guys dont allow searching of the banlist, either12:26
PriceChildHobbsee_, /cs bans nick is your friend12:26
Hobbsee_BOFH excuse #47: Complete Transient Lockout12:26
* Hobbsee_ slaps PriceChild around a bit with BOFH excuse #67: descramble code needed from software company12:26
PriceChildhow rude :(12:26
Hobbsee_i group my channels, and know the order.12:27
Hobbsee_oh, #2, how do you make the channel topic wider?12:28
Hobbsee_so you can actually read it all?12:29
Hobbsee_doesnt appear to be click-n-drag'able.12:29
elkbuntuHobbsee, hover the mouse over it, it'll come up in a tooltip12:30
Hobbsee_ah, so you cant actually force it to be shown, all the time12:30
elkbuntuHobbsee, probably is a way, i've never cared enough12:31
PriceChildplus you get to see if when you enter the channel12:31
JucatoHobbsee_: trying to migrate to xchat as well? :D12:31
Hobbsee_Jucato, possibly.  knotify keeps taking ages to start.12:31
Hobbsee_Jucato, it still has a lot of work to go, to get it up to konvi-level, though.12:31
Hobbsee_even with scripts12:31
Jucatohm... that shouldn't happen... :/12:31
Jucato(knotify, not you switching :P)12:32
Hobbsee_i suspect it's because it hasnt preloaded or anything12:32
Hobbsee_it's probably ~5 seconds12:32
Jucatoah12:32
Jucatoprobably, if konvi is the first KDE app you try to start from a fresh session12:32
Hobbsee_yes12:33
Hobbseeah well12:35
elkbuntuHobbsee, what is missing that is not a superfici... err...12:36
Hobbseeelkbuntu: :)12:36
Hobbseeelkbuntu: some of it is very useful12:36
elkbuntui quite like the tooltip, means i dont lose screen realestate to huge topics12:36
Hobbseebut i forget, you people like simple programs, where there is no customisations :)12:36
Hobbseei'm finding large amounts of real estate loss due to the left panel channel names - how they're indented12:37
elkbuntuyeah, the indenting is a new .. feature12:37
Hobbseeright12:38
elkbuntubut the log snippits in dialogs was a hopworthy addition12:39
Hobbseeoh, the last part of the proceeding conversation?12:39
Hobbseeyeah, that's useful12:40
elkbuntuyeah12:42
DavieyPriceChild: has Ubuntu Demon shifted his dates again?12:46
PriceChildypu12:47
Daviey'ave a word :)12:48
* Hobbsee is getting sick of this laptop bug.12:49
* jussi01 is getting sick of having a beautiful 22" screen here with no picture on it... :(12:58
=== elkbuntu is now known as elkbirthday
MezJono wants the IRC team to phone the people who bitch and moan?13:11
Hobbseewhat?13:12
elkbirthdayeh?13:13
elkbirthdayMez, where the heck did you get that from?13:14
Mezelkbirthday, misunderstanding ;)13:14
Mezwas confused a lol13:15
Mezlil *13:15
=== Pici- is now known as Pici
elkbirthdayguys, when jimmydee goes on about being 'feisty', he *is* using it as an euphemism in a trollish way. he's been warned and persists in using it...14:07
jussi01Happy birthday elkbirthday!14:17
popey11:54:10 <+Daviey> PriceChild: has Ubuntu Demon shifted his dates again?14:17
popeyit's because planet ubuntu uses the modified date to sort entries14:17
popeyand when ubuntu demon updates his blog with new links to bugs etc, it updates the date stamp14:18
popeyfile abug with keybuk on planet14:18
Davieypopey: Ahhh.. remember i told you that i tried to fudge one and it didn't work.. I changed the "Created" date - not modified.. maybe it's that ?14:18
popeyyes14:18
popeyit has been discussed here a few times14:18
popeyhere == boston14:19
Davieydon't rub it in..14:19
Daviey:)14:19
popeyhere == boston where you aren;t14:19
Davieyheh14:19
* popey ponders what session to attend next14:20
popeyahh, excellent this room has loco stuff in next14:20
mattva01excuse me, but is there any way to find out why my ip range was banned from #ubuntu14:24
LjLmattva01: i can try14:25
LjLmattva01: ah yes.14:25
LjLmattva01: actually it's your very hostname that was banned14:25
LjLmattva01: is there multiple people connected from that hostname? (not *range*, the very same IP)14:25
mattva01yes 14:26
mattva01hmm strange14:26
mattva01we are a school14:26
mattva01so I wonder if someone was trolling or something 14:27
LjLmattva01: i banned an abusive user from that IP just yesterday... and another user too, because i assumed it was the same person14:27
LjLthe latter was also in #ubuntu-dc, i suppose that's not hard to explain if it's a school there14:27
mattva01is it possible to get the name of the user?14:27
LjLmattva01: yes, a minute14:27
LjLmattva01: sthiyaga is the user, it happened like this14:28
mattva01ah14:29
LjL*** sthiyaga has joined #ubuntu     <sthiyaga> how do i control another computer in a server <sthiyaga> the same server [nobody replied for a minute or so, guess he got upset] <sthiyaga> don't be gay <LjL> !language <sthiyaga> sorry <sthiyaga> so if i have administrative rights on a server how do i control another computer with a different computer14:29
LjLand then they went on spamming that last message 6 other times, hence the ban14:30
mattva01I understand14:30
LjLi'll remove it and replace it with a ban on the nickname14:30
ubotuIn ubotu, Pici said: resetpanel is <reply> To reset the GNOME panels back to their defaults, delete ~/.gconf/apps/panel/ , log out, then back in.14:30
Pici..14:30
mattva01thanks,he is now being disciplined14:31
LjLmattva01: please bring my apologies to ShortShorts as well if you can, as i kicked them thinking it was the same user14:33
mattva01ok , no problem14:33
mattva01yeah , sthiyaga is a student in our beginner cs class14:34
mattva01well thanks14:34
mattva01exit14:34
LjLi suggest that he follows the class on network attacks, specifically about denial of service ;)14:35
mattva01heh14:35
LjL(the command is /quite to leave the whole network, and /part to leave just the channel, by the way)14:36
LjLerr, /quit, not quite /quite14:36
mattva01heh,I have not used xchat in a while ,and missed the slash14:37
mattva01well i'll just deny him irc access in the future14:37
mattva01thanks again14:37
LjLhm poor guy, i didn't really want him to be blocked from irc :P14:38
LjLthough i guess it won't hurt irc14:38
PriceChildYAY I've got evolution syncing my calendar to my ipod.14:47
ompaulanyone home? 15:47
ompaulPriceChild: ?15:47
PriceChildfor 60 seconds yes15:48
ompaulPriceChild: if you see a[*** leaving -offtopic or #ubuntu please forward them to somewhere that is not a ubuntu channel of normal use so they can join and part as they wish 15:49
ompaulthey seem to have conneciton problems15:49
ompaulI am not on my usual client15:49
ompaulso no powers 15:49
ompauletc15:49
PriceChildI have to run in a second...15:49
PriceChild*pokes thoreauputic*15:49
ompaulokay - lets see if we have anyone else :)15:49
PiciI'm around.15:49
ompaulPici: can you do #uibuntu?15:50
* thoreauputic pokes back15:50
thoreauputicPriceChild: ?15:50
Piciompaul: no, but I can do #ubuntu15:50
ompaulheh15:50
PriceChildthoreauputic, was about omp.aul above15:50
ompaulPici: can you check that guy out 15:50
ompaulI think he has had a connection issue for a while now15:50
ompaulokay back to work 15:51
PiciI guess I could toss him to #ubuntu-read-topic15:51
ompaulehh it is not great 15:51
Picihmm15:51
ompaulwe should get a fix your connection channel :)15:51
PiciI'll send him a PM and ban then.  I'll stick a note on the tracker.15:51
ompaulthanks15:51
ompaulhe is in -offtopic and ubuntu afik15:52
ompaulor was when I last looked15:52
ompaulcheers15:52
ompaulgot to run15:52
ompaulactually yeah -read-topic is good15:52
ompaulwe could use that channel a bit better15:52
ompaulcheers15:52
a[2121]e:)16:01
a[2121]ehello Pici16:01
Piciare you going to keep logging in and out?16:01
PiciOr are you all set now?16:01
a[2121]ealready i set 16:02
PiciOkay. I'll unban then.16:02
a[2121]eok thx pici16:02
a[2121]eim so sorry about that16:03
PiciNo problem :)16:03
a[2121]ePici, asl pls16:03
Picia[2121]e: No reason for you to need that info. 16:03
a[2121]ejajajajaja16:04
a[2121]eso what irc u use16:04
a[2121]ewhy many irc i found at ubuntu??16:04
Piciirssi, but this isnt a chatting/support channel. This is for operator issues only.  See topic.16:04
a[2121]ewith ubuntu... can i play GTA game same im play at windows?? :016:05
Picia[2121]e: like I said, this isnt a support channel, please ask in #ubuntu :)16:06
a[2121]eoh damn.. wrg channel16:07
a[2121]elol16:07
Tm_Toh my...16:08
Picioh my indeed.16:08
jdongno0tic: can we help you?16:13
* Pici is getting tired of that trigger16:14
no0ticelkbirthday, happy birthday16:14
PiciDid I say Happy Birthday yet? if not... Happy Birthday!16:14
Tm_Thappy today!16:16
Hobbseehappy birthday elky!16:27
gnomefre1kSeveas: did you ever contact that guy (not sure of name but its related to webboard posting to the pastebin)?16:28
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
gnomefreakhappy birthday elkbirthday 16:30
Tm_Ta[2121]e: something we can help you with?16:43
a[2121]eno Tm_T.... have no idea for askin...16:54
* a[2121]e newbie ubuntu16:54
Tm_Ta[2121]e: feel free to leave this channel if no further assistance needed :)16:56
a[2121]ejejejeje :)17:03
mneptokelkbuntu's birthday?17:15
no0ticwhat's the policy with tor users?17:16
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naliothno0tic: what policy?17:17
thoreauputic                                                  |_|                  17:17
jdongthoreauputic: aaah wrap it at 60 lines kthxbye17:17
thoreauputicjdong: heh17:17
mneptok  __         __         __        17:18
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Tm_Tno0tic: banforward to #ubuntu-proxy-users perhaps?17:18
Tm_Tif needed that is17:18
naliothno0tic: in #ubuntu and some of the other larger *buntu* channels, tor and other proxy users are banforwarded to #ubuntu-proxy-users 17:19
no0ticok17:19
no0ticthanks17:20
jdongno0tic: can we help you?18:02
no0ticgrr18:02
PriceChildHmmm I'm unsure whether jdong is a bot because of this automated reply he has.... lets remove/ban him as unauthorised bots are not allowed, and clear it up later.18:03
PriceChildWhile I'm at it... bots aren't allowed cloaks either 8-)18:04
* Seveas removes PriceChild 18:04
PriceChildHey Seveas :)18:05
Seveasheya18:05
* nalioth initiates his random number generator to find out who gets kickbanned. PriceChild gets assigned slot 1 though 99.18:08
naliothjdong: it's not so funny any more  :|18:08
PriceChildWhat'd I do :'(18:08
no0ticdefinitely18:11
ompaulPici, ??18:40
Piciompaul: the reconnecting guy?18:41
ompaulaye18:41
PiciTurns out he was doing it on purpose because 'he was testing out different clients'18:41
ompaulidiot18:41
PiciAnd then when he came in here to be unbanned he starting asking questions like  <a[2121]e> Pici, asl pls18:42
ompaulyeah lets see what it looks like18:42
ompaulhehe18:42
* ompaul rofl18:42
ompaulthat is stupid in the main18:42
TheSheepthere should be #ubuntu-pink ;)18:42
* ompaul looks at TheSheep 18:43
PiciTheSheep: And what would be the purpose of that channel?18:43
ompaulPici, for showing off pink desktops I would assume18:43
TheSheepPici: general lolling, I guess18:43
PiciTheSheep: I thought thats what #ubuntuforums was for18:43
* TheSheep contemplates his toes18:43
ompaulTheSheep, we don't do general lolling we do actual lolz18:43
PiciEpic Lulz18:44
SeveasPici, asl?18:44
Pici!coc-jbj | Seveas 18:44
ubotuSeveas: a/s/l?18:44
SeveasLOL18:44
SeveasI already forgot that one18:44
ompaul!coc-jbj18:45
ubotua/s/l?18:45
ompaulahh 18:45
* ompaul grimaces18:45
* TheSheep blinks18:45
=== Pici- is now known as Pici
ubotuIn ubotu, stdin said: !no build-essential is <alias> compiling19:01
stdinsomeone want to add that?19:01
PiciIt already is?19:01
Pici!-build-essential19:02
ubotubuild-essential is <alias> compiling - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 17:36:5619:02
stdinhow come that didn't work in #k ?19:02
PiciIt should.19:02
Seveas!build-essential-#kubuntu19:02
Seveas<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:02
stdinah, he put "essensial" not "essential" ;p19:03
jdongnalioth: oops just saw it, forgot about having it in, removing it promptly.19:17
PriceChildPici, I saw that!19:34
=== jussio1 is now known as jussi01
ubotubruenig called the ops in #ubuntu20:47
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu20:47
ubotupeeps[work] called the ops in #ubuntu20:47
Tm_Tummmm21:26
Tm_TI'm going to take some weeks off from IRC, too much noise to me in this condition21:27
ompaulI found it useful to remove the client from the menu / the path for while 21:29
ompaulit allowed me do some work I needed to21:29
jdongompaul: removing the client is extremely important towards getting off IRC21:36
jdongas is locking sudo access21:36
jdongI find that unfortunately neither works for me :(21:37
ompaul:)21:37
jdongI might need you guys to kline me when final exam season comes ;-)21:37
Seveasjdong, we could get you a K-line21:37
Seveaslol21:37
jdongSeveas: one step ahead :)21:37
* nalioth opens his briefcase. A light shines out and illuminates his face.21:40
naliothwe could do worse than a kline, jdong 21:40
naliothmuwahahahahaha21:40
jdong:)21:40
kbrooksum, there's a !u factoid. why?21:40
jdongnalioth: I'll probably need the worst you got to encourage me to study :)21:40
Seveaskbrooks, because people use 'u' 'r' etc. instead of speaking english21:41
jdongis there an !i factoid for Mac users? :)21:42
* jdong just had a rush of bad therapy memories fly by.....21:42
jdong"!i is When expressing dissatisfaction, please try using I feeling words rather than You accusing words"21:43
jdongmuahahaha21:43
kbrooksSeveas, okay, but how do we discourage other people from using it? sorry if i look dumb asking that kind of question in here21:43
mneptokiBrator21:46
PriceChildkbrooks, I'm confused... how do we discourage other people from using it?21:51
PriceChildshh now mneptok 21:51
naliothkbrooks: u r da BOMB, man!21:51
ompaul!l33t | nalioth 21:51
ubotunalioth: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.21:51
naliothkbrooks: u r da k00lz0r21:51
kbrooks*laugh* nalioth: thx ;-) 21:52
naliothkbrooks: it's not a standard part of english, and it's irritating21:52
kbrooksoh right21:52
nalioththis is not AOL.21:52
PriceChild*is still confused about kbrooks' latest question*21:53
jdongyeah, discourage people from using "u" in sentences or abusing the !u factoid?21:54
kbrooksjdong, former 21:55
jdongkbrooks: meh, give them the factoid once and hope they stop?21:55
jdongkbrooks: what else can we do without electrodes?21:55
kbrooksjdong, and if they don't? (true that)21:55
Seveaskbrooks, we kill them21:56
jdongkbrooks: can't say we didn't warn them, then :)21:56
mneptok3Y3  4M  7}{3  1337  84D455  7}{47'5  74|<1|\|'  U|2  5}{IZZ0|2(}{  |)0\/\/|\|  !!!!!ONE!11!!!one11121:56
kbrookskk ty ;-) byeeeeeeeeee now.21:56
kbrooksmneptok, i only got "i am the elite bad***"21:57
mneptok"eye am the l33t badass that's takin' ur shizzorch down"21:57
PiciThats takin you to schizzol2h down21:57
PiciThat doesnt even make sense21:58
mneptokprecisely21:58
mneptokit makes it more authentic21:58
kbrookslol 21:58
ompaulmneptok, we knew you cared :)21:58
* mneptok purrs gently21:59
kbrookswe are so "leet"...<suspense>... but seriously, who cares?21:59
ompaulkbrooks, perhaps, now you perceive that "l33t" speak is rather, petty, and does not communicate the inner workings of a kernel rather well?21:59
ompaulor for that matter python.language22:00
mneptokkbrooks: my girlfriend cares22:00
Seveasompaul, 1010010100100101001001001010001010100101010101010010101001010101000100010101010111110101011010100100122:00
PriceChildmneptok, don't kid yourself22:00
kbrooksompaul, lol, python is not petty 22:00
mneptokkbrooks: when i use 1337, she's all "135814|\|15|\/|  f0 |21`/  !!11!!!"22:00
ompaulkbrooks, the irony was the use of python.<<< 22:00
kbrooksmneptok, lol 22:01
PriceChildlol22:02
ompaulSeveas, I could say: 1000010101011010010101101001101010111101011011101011101 but I won't ;-)22:04
Seveasompaul, you wouldn't dare...22:04
ompaulI would 22:04
ompaulSeveas, 100001010101101001010110100110101011110101101110101110122:04
PriceChildhow dare he22:05
ompaulperhaps22:05
* ompaul actions the conversation22:05
* ompaul coughs22:05
Seveasnow that's truly 101010010101010100101010100101010100101010100101010100101001001010101001101001010001010100101001010101022:06
ompaulSeveas, you are only saying that cos it is Wednesday tomorrow22:06
Seveastrue22:07
ompaulsee 22:07
ompaulas I said it, so it was22:07
mneptok01100001 01101110 01110101 0111001122:10
ompaulwhats with the spaces, you registering something there mneptok? ;-)22:11
mneptokit's so you can insert stuff in it22:11
ompaulahh k22:12
Seeker`These segfaults are giving me a headache22:23
Seeker`:(22:23
jdongSeeker`: what do you get when an earthworm develops a genetic mutation in the production of annuli?22:27
jdongok, that was an awful bionerd joke.22:27
jdongforgive me, world.22:27
PiciI have a bad feeling about this22:28
jdongPici: a segmentation fault!22:28
jdongpeople who get that joke without googling should probably do my bio homework for me.22:29
PiciA null... something22:29
Seeker`it wont let me free some memory, but valgrind complains that there is unfreed memory22:34
unagihello22:50
ompaulevening22:51
unagihow are you22:51
ompaulcouldn't be better22:52
unagiglad to hear22:52
naliothsomething we can help you with, unagi ?22:52
unagiwell the powers at be that have the quarrel with me dont seem to be speaking but i suppose im here to ask yet again for my bans in ubuntu and ubuntu-offtopic to be lifted22:53
ompaulhow did you find yourself banned in both of those channels?22:54
unagiim not completely sure why i was banned in ubuntu........but in offtopic there was a major misunderstanding and my attempt to explain was dubbed trolling22:55
naliothunagi: they'll be lifted when they're lifted.22:55
naliothmost bans don't last more than 24 hours22:55
unagii admit that in the midst of the confusion i did state that if i was banned id be able to come back and finish my explaination22:55
naliothfolks that keep reminding us, we seem to remember why we banned 'em longer22:55
unagiobviously i was wrong22:55
unagiwell the problem nalioth is if i were initially banned for a just reason i wouldnt be here asking for it to be lifted22:55
naliothunagi: unfortunately, _nobody_ feels their ban was 'just'.22:56
LjLunagi, didn't we already have this discussion yesterday? you were banned from #ubuntu on October 19, that ban was never lifted, that ban was legitimate, so you were ban evading. what's the point of discussing anything else?22:56
unagithe ban evasion wouldnt have happened if i wasnt initially banned for an unjust reason22:56
unagii was banned for 'objectifying women' when the comment wasnt meant to signify that22:57
LjLunagi: you're talking about the -offtopic ban, aren't you?22:57
unagiyes22:57
LjLwell, i'm not talking about that.22:57
LjLi'm talking about the #ubuntu ban of October 19.22:57
unagii dont know what that ban was for22:57
LjLyou don't? weird, as you were repeatedly kicked before being finally banned, that day22:58
PriceChildBy the way unagi was banned from here last night... however he's on a radically different hostname so it isn't affecting him...22:58
unagiso the ban here wasnt lifted?22:58
PriceChildNo.22:58
unagithats the problem i have no way of knowing22:58
unagiim not trying and never was trying to cause a problem22:58
LjLyou have no way of knowing which ISP you're connecting to? seriously?22:58
unagiseriously...22:59
unagii work in hawaii on a cruise ship.......so i dont have my own internet22:59
unagii have my phone which changes ip addresses and public wifi.....which is rarely the same22:59
ompaulwell I request you leave22:59
ompaulgiven your other ban was not removed22:59
* gnomefreak thinks we can "fix" this22:59
unagiwill the ban ever be lifted?22:59
unagiplease dont....im not trying to cause a problem22:59
PriceChildunagi, I don't believe you.... you've repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility, denying everything we have accused you of... and you keep coming back.23:00
ompaulunagi, I asked23:00
naliothunagi: every time i've seen you in here, you have not once articulated why your ban(s) were unwarranted.23:00
gnomefreakompaul: that was nice of you ;)23:00
ompaulfolks I did ask 23:01
ompaulnow I action it23:01
unagibecause when i try nalitoth im banned in the middle of the explaination23:01
unagilike now23:01
PriceChildunagi, you really aren't.23:01
gnomefreakdamn23:01
jdonglook at the lart action23:01
* jdong STILL thinks lart needs an ircatwork ban23:01
* gnomefreak wonders why my script doesnt do that23:01
ompauljdong, you can do it any time you like23:02
jdongSeveas: ^^ pretty please with aspartame and dextrose on top?23:02
PriceChildHe's had so much of our time.23:02
ompaulwell he is looking for my time now23:03
naliothah, great ompaul 23:04
naliothnow he's bugging me in PM23:04
ompaulnalioth, he has been bugging all ops in pm23:05
ompaulso it appears23:05
LjLhasn't bugged me in pm yet23:05
gnomefreaknot me yet and no thats not an invite 23:05
naliothLjL: i can send him your way <EG>23:05
LjLnalioth: see gnomefreak above23:05
* gnomefreak looking into irssi (they lied summer of 2006) and im hoping that false23:06
naliothi can send him to both you  <EG>23:06
LjLi23:06
Seeker`gnomefreak: huh?23:06
ompaulnalioth, he got a very short lecture from me on ban evasion = the most silly thing you can do 23:06
LjLi'll tell him we'd all be glad to unban him but nalioth is so strongly against it23:07
ompaultell him to check it ou23:07
ompaulout23:07
ompaulhehe23:07
ompaulLjL, you are evil23:07
gnomefreakSeeker`: during 2006 summer of code* they stated they were going to add python support to irssi23:07
LjLjust reacting to evilness :P23:07
* jdong looking into gnomefreak's sentence (he lied it sense) and im hoping that is rephrased23:07
jdonggnomefreak: yeah, that's been up there for a long time23:07
jdonggnomefreak: I'd like to see some non-perl scripting23:08
gnomefreakme too23:08
jdongI'd even take like Boo over this :)23:08
jdonglol23:08
gnomefreakbut how frigging hard can it be irssi is not a big source at all23:08
jdongI tried weechat for a while23:08
jdongbut weechat's scripting API IMO is pretty silly23:08
jdongas far as I could see or ask, there's no way to get the mode of a single user without iterating over ALL users in the channel and testing for that username23:09
jdongand similar retardedness like that23:09
gnomefreakthats no good23:09
ompaulnalioth, I am willing to remove that ban and invite him in here and tell him to come back in $days or some such for all the ban evading -- where that $days is felt to be okay by LjL gnomefreak and yourself with any other good contribs 23:09
gnomefreakwhat was he banned for?23:10
naliothompaul: i have no dog in this (except it's become a recurring event)23:10
LjLno sooner than a month. just look at the bantracker - which doesn't even list what happened in -offtopic (for some reason)23:10
ompaulbot down time23:10
gnomefreakagain?23:10
ompaulgnomefreak, no the other day when he was banned methinks23:10
gnomefreakah23:10
ompaulgnomefreak, your feeling on days23:11
ompaulmine is 20 ljl is 1 month23:11
ompaulyours is?23:11
gnomefreaknot sure why he was banned to begin with23:11
nalioththen give him a week and pull the bans23:11
ompaulgnomefreak, the ban evasion is more important at this stage afics23:11
gnomefreakbut what you 2 feel is fine with me.23:11
LjL[00:11:39] <annoyed> do you seriously think that if i was banned for a just reason i would be here trying to explain23:11
LjLhere's my PM23:11
LjLwith a new nickname23:11
gnomefreakhim again :(23:12
LjL(same ident though - he's an idiot)23:12
gnomefreaki know that name23:12
Seeker`he has used that nickname before23:12
LjL[00:12:20] <LjL> yes, just about every serious troll does that23:12
LjL[00:12:32] <unagi> thats great but im not a troll23:12
LjLchanged nick again...23:12
PriceChildLjL, i think the original ban shown on the bantracker was a replacement for an evaded one iirc23:13
LjLi *think* he's trying to evade this last ban23:13
naliothunban him please, so he can come back in here23:13
LjLnot sure what makes me think that23:13
ompaulhe did23:13
ompaul10 days?23:13
ompaulLjL, ?23:13
ompaulPriceChild, ?23:13
PriceChild10 days?23:13
ompaulnalioth, ?23:13
ompaulgnomefreak, ?23:13
LjLnah, not 10 days, please23:13
nalioth10 is fine23:13
ompaulLjL, he does it again he gets the big clamp23:14
gnomefreak1023:14
ompaulLjL, pm23:14
LjLPriceChild, note that the "original" ban on the bantracker, again, was on october 19, not 26 (or whatever)23:14
PriceChildLjL, yes23:14
ompaulLjL, that is from today btw23:14
unagii just wish that people could put themselves in my shoes for a second23:14
ompaulunagi, no 23:14
unagino?23:14
ompaulunagi, please wait23:14
unagiok23:14
naliothunagi: please explain yourself (and don't beat around the bush)23:15
LjL(logs help, for the record)23:15
mneptokoooo! i missed unagi!23:16
* mneptok 's karma is looking up!23:16
ompaulmneptok, no you didn't23:16
LjLmneptok: ssssh, don't deconcentrate him23:16
unagithe initial ban was for 'objectifying women' when my comment was not meant to signify that. it was a misunderstanding that i understand why it would look that way. but when i tried to explain i was accused of trolling and was told i was going to be banned for my comment, i therefore stated that the ban would not matter because i would be back to explain myself whether it was heard then or later. turns out i was wrong about not be able to b23:17
unagie banned so i wasnt able to explain, i came in here to try and explain and was yet again accused of trolling because i would refuse to admit iw as objectifying women, each time i try to explain i am told what i think and what i feel instead of understanding that my intentions were misread.23:17
gnomefreakjdong: do you know python+perl23:17
unagibasically it snowballed and i made many mistakes since but the fact of the matter is if i was allowed to explain myself initially it might have been cleared up............i only ever got around bans to try and explain myself23:17
PriceChildunagi, the original ban was _NOT_ for objectifying women and I have tried to explain this to you countless times...23:18
unagiand as i tried to tell you23:18
PriceChildThat was just a factor that contributed to the decisino to ban.23:18
unagiwhether it was because of the comment or threatening to ban me becvause of the comment it is all related23:19
unagii only said that about getting around the ban because i was being threatened to be banned because of the comment23:19
unagiso even if it was because of the comment of the ban if i was allowed to explain without the threat that would have never been said23:19
unagithere were 4 people at the time calling me a sexist23:20
unagiand i felt vulnerable and attacked......and then the threat of the ban came23:20
unagithat is where my mistakes started23:20
PriceChildthe mistakes started well before that.23:20
unagibut u just said that it wasnt because of the comment23:20
unagithe comment was before that23:20
PriceChildthe "comment" about the user's girlfriend... the threat that you would evade bans...23:20
PriceChild*head desks*23:21
mneptokunagi: the real question now is ... when do the mistakes *end*?23:21
PriceChildI said the "comment" was not the only unique reason for the ban.... it was one of many.23:21
LjLunagi, let's rewind a little. how do you explain the fact that you were kicked, like, 7 times on october 19 from #ubuntu? and, you've been around since at least august, so i doubt you didn't know the rules23:21
mneptokunagi: coming here *every single day* with the same old "i'm misunderstood!" story is a mistake.23:21
unagii dont know who to reply to first 23:22
ompaulunagi, address us all23:22
ompaulunagi, we don't need any one person addressed specifically23:22
unagiljl most of the kicks after the first kick was for 'ban evading' trying to resolove the issue23:22
LjLunagi, no. october 19.23:23
LjLnot october 2x23:23
unagiif coming here trying to tell you its a misunerstanding is a mistake then i am sorry.........but i refuse to say that i was objectifying women23:23
unagithe mistakes end when it is understood that i never meant for any of this to happen, and that if the bans were lifted there would be no problems23:23
unaginot all 'ban evades' were actually evading23:24
unagibecause like i said i open xchat my channels open...........if they connect they connect23:24
unagiagain in trying to explain that i dont have my own inet connection i was banned for trolling23:24
unagiim not a troublemaker and there has never been a problem with me before the comment in offtopic23:25
unagiany trouble that there has been with me lately is directly related to the first ban23:25
* gnomefreak missing a channel23:25
unagiin fact at first i was never really banned from ubuntu.......just silences23:25
ompaulunagi, you got to work it out, if the rest of the world thinks you are wrong, perhaps you need to adjust the measure you are using. This is just a comment, a piece of advice so to speak.23:25
unagii just dont know what to do....23:26
unagiill admit that i was ban evading........not to cause trouble but to explain23:26
unagiyes it is against the rules23:26
unagiand it was wrong for me to threat the evasion i guess i never really saw it as that big of a deal23:26
unagibut my comment that day was misunderstood and i didnt mean for it to be read that way23:26
mneptokunagi: you were banned from #ubuntu on October 19 at 3:1823:27
unagiso if i am suppose to admit that im a sexist objectifying pig i cannot do that because thats not what it meant23:27
mneptokunagi: you reappeared 4 minutes later from another IP23:27
mneptokunagi: "2007-10-19T05:21:26 <unagi> not my fault sprint renews ip addresses when you reconnect"23:27
unagithat is a true statement23:27
mneptokunagi: let's be plain. you got a new IP lease to evade a ban.23:27
LjLand kicked at:  03:17:19, 03:18:14, 03:21:36, 03:40:09, 03:43:1023:27
LjLwhich is quite impressive if you ask me23:27
gnomefreakbrb23:27
mneptokunagi: do NOT insult me by asking me to believe differently23:27
unagii wont sit here and say every time wasnt to get a new ip23:28
mneptokunagi: you, sir, are an active ban evader. you threaten to do in, and actually actively do it.23:28
unagibut i also wont say every time was23:28
unagiim not going to do it anymore is what im trying to say23:28
mneptokunagi: that's wy you're banned23:28
unagiand the only reason i ever did was to try and explain23:28
ompaulunagi, and I point to my last piece of advice23:28
mneptokunagi: you made piss-poor decisions. live with them.23:28
ompaulunagi, you got to work it out, if the rest of the world thinks you are wrong, perhaps you need to adjust the measure you are using. This is just a comment, a piece of advice so to speak.23:28
LjLunagi, also judging from all those kicks on October 19, you seem to easily get upset and definitely lose your temper when people "piss you off". you said this happened after the -offtopic ban, but i'm seeing that it happened before, too23:29
unagimy adjustment was to no longer evade and come in here and discuss it civally23:29
LjLyou should rethink that attitude, if you want to live peacefully on IRC23:29
ompaulunagi, so I have a proposition for you23:29
unagii tend to lose my temper when people tell me what i think23:29
unagior what my intentions are23:29
unagiwhich is what pricechild does constantly23:29
unagimy phone will turn itsself off and i have to turn it back on and reconnect23:30
unagihalf the time that is what happens23:30
unaginow like i said i will admit thats not what always happened23:30
unagii did disconnect to be able to try and continue to explain23:30
unagibut i never did it to be mischeivious or defiant23:30
unagii just feel lost without the support channel23:31
ompaulunagi, are you going to stop?23:31
unagiyes23:31
ompaulas in now 23:31
PriceChildI really can't see how you can try to make us believe you intentionally evaded bans, but weren't trying to be defiant.23:31
unagiyou never saw anything i try to tell you PriceChild23:31
unagiyou instead chose to insult me23:32
ompaulunagi, and again is it possible, and you got to work it out, if the rest of the world thinks you are wrong, perhaps you need to adjust the measure you are using. This is just a comment, a piece of advice so to speak.23:32
unagiso will the bans ever be lifted....or am i going to have to reformat and find another flavor of linux23:32
ompaulthreats will work well with someone is trying to meet you some of the way 23:32
ompaulgood call23:32
unagino no no23:32
unagii didnt mean it as a threat23:32
unagii mean i cant do this without the channel23:33
unagii also do my work with linux version of maya23:33
ompaulso read what I said23:33
unagii think i dont understand exactly what you mean23:33
ompaulwell read it again, I'll be back in a moment23:33
unagiim not sure what measure you are suggesting23:34
ompaulwhen you refuse to consider that other people should think your words mean what you think they mean when you obviously had several people suggest they did not23:35
ompauldoes your measure work with the rest of the world23:35
unagiive admitted previously that i can see how my comment was misunderstood.........23:35
unagibut my intention was never for my words to mean what it was perceived to mean23:36
unagiand that will never change........but i am sorry for the misunderstanding23:36
unagiand i wish i had chosen better words at the time23:36
unagidid i lose inet or is everyone just quiet =/23:41
PriceChildWe are quiet.23:41
unagioh23:41
LjLunagi, i suggest that you come back here in about 10 days. i think the bans will be lifted then. however, i want to tell you in advance that you will at most be given *one* more chance, and no misbehavior of any kind will be tolerated - you will be simply banned and then ignored if that happens.23:43
unagithank you, have a great day23:44
LjLunagi: during said ten days, find the time to read the CoC and the IRC guidelines, as well as everything below:23:44
LjL!etiquette23:44
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)23:44
ompaulyou can msg the bot with any of those topics and find out what they actually mean23:44
unagithank you.......bye everyone!23:45
ompaulunagi, now we ask you to leave, not have us remove you and actually come back in 10 days23:45
* ompaul wonders23:46
TheSheepwhy is that people tend to be so preoccupied with proving they were innocent in the first place, instead of fixing the situation and moving on?23:47
ompaulit is very hard to say, no, and it is very hard to say, I was wrong23:47
TheSheepompaul: good point23:48
ompaulTheSheep, and the thing is that if you put your hands up, people will work with you to get it sorted23:48
ompauland if you say no people will respect you23:49
ompaulbut there ya go23:49
mneptokhttp://art.gnome.org/users/kaizera23:49
TheSheepegos are hungry beasts23:49
ompaulNo binary blobs, and I am not always right23:49
gnomefreak10 days still?23:49
ompaulgnomefreak, yes23:49
gnomefreakok brb23:49
ompaulso say the 9th of Nob23:49
ompaulnov ember even23:50
ompaulhehe23:50
ompaulI got me a new calendar23:50
ompaulohh noes its that italian op person  :)23:52
LjLompaul: 00101111 01101101 01101111 01100100 01100101 00100000 00100011 01110101 01100010 01110101 01101110 01110100 01110101 00100000 00101011 01100010 00100000 01110101 01101110 01100001 01100111 01101001 00101010 00100001 00101010 01000000 0010101023:52
LjL</binary blob>23:52
ompaulheh23:52
ompaulright so folks I am off to sleep23:52
ompaulcheers23:52
no0tichi23:52
no0ticbye23:52
Picibye23:52
naliothwhy, oh why, does sudoking strike me as a troll playing with us?23:58
LjLbecause he is, most likely23:58
PriceChildnalioth, gah... wher enow?23:59
naliothPriceChild: #kubuntu-offtopic 23:59
PriceChildlovely23:59

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