[00:30] <ubotu> New bug: #158888 in launchpad-bazaar "bzr register-branch oopses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158888
[00:40] <ubotu> New bug: #158890 in launchpad-bazaar "register branch should be named "register remote branch"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158890
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #158920 in malone "printer parallel port " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158920
[05:17] <Fujitsu> Can somebody please unbreak edge?
[05:17] <Fujitsu> Oh, and the rest of the world too, it seems.
[05:18] <Fujitsu> Did the Slashdotting finally kill something?
[05:31] <RAOF> Slashdotting?
[05:31] <RAOF> Why would LP get /.'d?
[05:33] <Fujitsu> RAOF: Early this morning that apparently HDD-eating bug was linked to on /.
[05:33] <RAOF> Oh, not _that_ bug again.
[05:33] <Fujitsu> In the summary, FFS.
[05:33] <RAOF> Slashdotting will undoubtedly improve the usefullness of that bug immesurably.
[05:34] <Fujitsu> Fortunately, somebody redirected the bug page to a static page (like bug #1 was for a while), so people weren't able to comment either.
[05:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)
[05:35] <Fujitsu> Oh, I see, just edge and staging are dead.
[05:36] <RAOF> Yay.
[05:36] <pwnguin> so uh, edge is telling me to report a problem after it persists for a few minutes
[05:36] <pwnguin> https://edge.launchpad.net/~jldugger/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all
[05:37] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that lot keeps timing out
[05:38] <Fujitsu> pwnguin: edge and staging are down, I presume they've shifted those servers onto production to handle the load.
[05:38] <Fujitsu> pwnguin: Turn off the edge redirection for while (on https://launchpad.net/)
[06:13] <andika> hi, I can't open https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blankon/ since ~20 minutes ago
[06:13] <andika> is this a known problem?
[06:13] <Fujitsu> andika: Head to https://launchpad.net/ and disable the redirection.
[06:13] <Fujitsu> edge and staging seem to be down.
[06:13] <andika> ok, thanks
[06:14] <andika> confirmed, using bugs.LP instead of edge works
[06:25] <willwill> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. 
[06:25] <willwill> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. 
[06:25] <willwill> Thanks for your patience.
[06:25] <willwill> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-about-ubuntu
[06:25] <RAOF> willwill: edge is down.  Disable your edge redirection at launchpad.net
[06:26] <willwill> RAOF: I got that link from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/2007-10-31/index.html
[06:26] <RAOF> willwill: 
[06:26] <willwill> RAOF: thanks
[06:26] <RAOF> willwill: Then strip the "edge" bit from it :)
[06:32] <pwnguin> did canonical hire RAOF as an irc point of contact? :)
[06:37] <RAOF> pwnguin: :P
[07:22] <yeager> has launchpad taken a long coffee break today?
[07:23] <Fujitsu> yeager: See the topic.
[07:23] <yeager> ah
[08:16] <coolbhavi> I am not able to access answer tracker from today morning
[08:17] <coolbhavi> I am not able to access answer tracker from today morning
[08:18] <Fujitsu> coolbhavi: See the topic.
[08:18] <coolbhavi> Got it
[08:18] <coolbhavi> thanks
[09:00] <gary4gar> why  edge.launchpad.net is down??
[09:00] <Adri2000> gary4gar: /topic
[09:01] <Adri2000> it doesn't tell why, but it tells that's a known problem :)
[09:01] <gary4gar> Adri2000, i have read the topic but the reason there is not mentioned :S
[09:02] <gary4gar> Anyone here has a clue why  edge.launchpad.net is down??
[09:05] <Hobbsee> because it got slashdotted.
[09:06] <TLE> *G*
[09:11] <TLE> The "Ubuntu May Be Killing Your Laptop's Hard Drive" or? Hmm I guess you have to have to admires peoples skills for picking the headlines that gives the biggest wow-effect regardless of its relation to the content
[09:16] <TLE> as it was also the case with the "Cracked Linux Boxes Used to Wield Windows Botnets" article *G*
[09:27] <pwnguin> '/part
[10:09] <osh_> I'm looking for how to get bugs pushed back upstream in launchpad.net. Anyone know how to do that?
[10:11] <Fujitsu> osh_: You have to do the actual pushing manually.
[10:12] <osh_> Fujitsu: How do you mean? Do I have to report it in the upstream developers bugtracker manually?
[10:12] <Fujitsu> osh_: Yes.
[10:13] <osh_> Fujitsu: That's not fun. ;-/
[10:13] <Fujitsu> You can then link it by clicking `Also Affects: Project...' and entering the URL.
[10:13] <Fujitsu> Well, it can't really have an account for you in every single bugtracker in existence.
[10:15] <osh_> Fujitsu: Well, no, but couldn't launchpad.net have an account in the major bugtrackers around the world and use that to report bugs that should be pushed there? Just a suggestion. I tend to report all bugs that I find in launchpad since I don't know if the bug is distro specific or something that should be sent upstream.
[10:16] <osh_> Fujitsu: But I do see the problem. Thanks for your answer.
[10:17] <Hobbsee> osh_: that would mean that the account would speak for all launchpad uers
[10:17] <Hobbsee> which would quickly get the entire thing blocked, if osmeone abused it
[10:17] <Hobbsee> alos, what do to with the email generated mail?
[10:19] <osh_> Hobbsee: Hmm, right. So, not doable then? It would be nice to have though. ;-)
[10:20] <Hobbsee> osh_: not really feasible - nor wanted - you'd never be able to really track the stuff again
[10:22] <osh_> Hobbsee: Well, wanted from this users point of view. I'd prefer to just do a bugreport in one place. But again, I do see the problem.
[10:23] <osh_> Thanks for answering my question. I'll stop bothering you now.
[10:26] <Hobbsee> osh_: i'm merely pointing out that the idea is unfeasable - not even going into the technical nature of it.
[10:30] <Hobbsee> dear $launchpad_devs, if edge is down, then how about you kill the bloody redirect to edge?
[10:30] <Hobbsee> or, at least, let us disable for longer than 2 hours
[10:30] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: You'd think that would make sense.
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Or just not kill edge.
[10:31] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: oh, i've no problems with shoving hte servers to production
[10:31] <Hobbsee> but it would be *really* nice not to break all the URL's - you cant even take edge. out, as it just redirects you to the broken block again - every 2 hours
[10:31] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
[10:31] <Fujitsu> If you go to beta at the moment, it will send you back.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> Surely a couple of lines of Apache config wouldn't be difficult on edge, or just disabling the redirect.
[10:32] <Fujitsu> Hm, I guess you'd need both.
[10:35] <Hobbsee> to which beta?
[10:35] <Hobbsee> the beta (edge) keeps you on beta
[10:35] <Hobbsee> wonder if elmo is around, and could fix it.
[10:35] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: I meant beta beta, not edge beta.
[10:35] <Hobbsee> we have a beta beta?
[10:36] <Hobbsee> oh, right
[10:36] <Fujitsu> It hasn't been turned on for several months, but it's still there.
[10:36] <Hobbsee> right, yes.  i thought it got renamed to edge :)
[10:36] <Fujitsu> beta is apparently still around for big, private changes, or so.
[11:09] <Hobbsee> any way to sort https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending via arch?
[11:09] <kiko> damn edge down
[11:10] <Hobbsee> kiko: yeah
[11:10] <kiko> Hobbsee, I don't think so -- probably worth filing a bug
[11:10] <Hobbsee> kiko: i'd prefer to see the queue fixed first :)
[11:10] <kiko> Hobbsee, me too!
[11:10] <Hobbsee> seeing as this is just a curiosity thing
[11:10] <Hobbsee> whereas that stops me from doing actual ubuntu work.
[11:10] <Hobbsee> (completely, in that area)
[11:11] <kiko> off to gym
[11:11] <Hobbsee> have fun
[11:13] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: You can, just stick it after the hardy/. So https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/+builds
[11:13] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: ah, nice!
[11:14] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: i thought there was probably some sneaky URL way to do it
[11:14] <Fujitsu> Soyuz navigation rocks.
[11:14] <Fujitsu> (I'm not sure that's linked from anywhere useful)
[11:15] <Hobbsee> ah, so only 1912 to go.
[11:15] <Hobbsee> might be worth upgrading :)
[11:18] <Fujitsu> Gaaaah, the UDS schedule seems to link directly to edge.
[11:19] <carlos_> Fujitsu: go to launchpad.net and disable the redirect to edge
[11:19] <Fujitsu> carlos_: No, the links link directly to edge.
[11:19] <carlos_> well, that's easy to fix
[11:19] <RAOF> Silly edge and it's brokenness. :)
[11:19] <Fujitsu> Keybuk's not around, it would seem.
[11:19] <carlos_> Fujitsu: just remove 'edge' from the URL
[11:19] <carlos_> but you will need to remove the redirect first
[11:20] <Fujitsu> carlos_: Well, I know, but I want clickiness.
[11:20] <carlos_> Fujitsu: sure, just pointing how to be able to start working now, while the issue is fixed
[11:20] <Fujitsu> carlos_: I've already the redirect off several times today, and it is off now, but I still have to mangle the URLs.
[11:20] <Fujitsu> As will the rest of the world in an hour.
[11:20] <carlos_> yeah, not ideal...
[11:20] <Fujitsu> Erm, s/already/already turned/
[11:21] <Fujitsu> Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a more informative error page for long-term situations like this?
[11:22] <Hobbsee> carlos: do you have permissions to disable the redirect at the moment?
[11:22] <Hobbsee> until edge is actually back?
[11:22]  * Fujitsu doubts it.
[11:22] <carlos> Fujitsu: I just connected so I don't know exactly the problem, I just know it's not working and also, any edge breakage shouldn't take too long, I guess main problem is having most people travelling today
[11:22] <jrb_> how can i register a super project?
[11:22] <Fujitsu> carlos: I don't think it's broken.
[11:22] <carlos> Hobbsee: no, I'm a plain user in launchpad, except for translations
[11:23] <Fujitsu> I think the edge app server(s) have been reassigned to production to handle slashdotting.
[11:23] <Fujitsu> As staging is gone too.
[11:23] <Hobbsee> carlos: pity
[11:23] <carlos> Hobbsee: our admins are working on the issue
[11:24] <Hobbsee> carlos: about getting edge back up, or getting rid of the redirect?
[11:24] <carlos> Fujitsu: is not that, at least from what the short information I have
[11:24] <carlos> Hobbsee: about getting edge back up
[11:24] <Hobbsee> right
[11:24] <Fujitsu> carlos: Hm, OK.
[11:26] <jrb_> i tried just registering a regular project and then select it as a super project in other projects but that didn't work. also when registering or modifing a project i can only see an option to make a project part of a super project but none to make it a super project itself. 
[11:26] <Fujitsu> jrb_: File a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad.
[11:26] <Fujitsu> Only ~admins can create project groups.
[11:26] <jrb_> ah thanks
[11:43] <carlos> Fujitsu: edge is fixed now
[11:43] <carlos> Hobbsee: ^^^
[11:44] <Hobbsee> carlos: great!
[11:45] <Fujitsu> carlos: Thanks. Are you able to say what was wrong?
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #158977 in blueprint "Release Series blueprint page should know that I'm not a driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158977
[11:45] <carlos> Fujitsu: a problem in our latest code landing
[11:46] <Fujitsu> (I note that staging is still down, though that's not important)
[11:46] <carlos> I had to disable something that prevented the servers to start (we do automatic code updates for edge and staging from latest code in our repository)
[11:46] <carlos> and no one was around to fix it due to most of us travelling to Boston right now
[11:46] <carlos> Fujitsu: it will be online again soon
[11:47] <Fujitsu> carlos: Thanks.
[11:48] <carlos> Fujitsu: ok, forget that last part, staging will not be fixed with my workaround (yet)
[12:01]  * carlos -> out see you all later!!
[12:04] <jrb_> how can i delete a release series?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> jrb_: I think you'll have to ask a question on the answer tracker to get that done, again, as only ~admins can do that.
[12:08] <jrb_> okay:)
[12:53] <LapTop006> The "subscribe" link doesn't work on: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[12:53] <LapTop006> 'tis a 404
[12:53] <LapTop006> I also can't figure out how to get the "logged in" version of that page
[12:53] <LapTop006> everything I try redirects or 404's
[12:53] <Hobbsee> because it's static
[12:53] <Hobbsee> and is not a launchpad page.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> (like the otehrs)
[12:54] <LapTop006> it still shouldn't 404
[12:54] <LapTop006> I do understand *why* ti's static
[12:54] <LapTop006> but I don't see why I can't force a dynamic version if I'm logged in
[12:55] <LapTop006> if the links don't work remove them from teh static versions
[12:56] <Hobbsee> it....does....?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> you're viewing the static html version of the page.  
[12:56] <Hobbsee> if you go via the normal urls, it works fine
[12:57] <LapTop006> tried the normal urls
[12:57] <LapTop006> they redirect me even if I add get variables to ensure it's not a caching thing
[12:58] <Hobbsee> then you would know that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 works...
[12:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 59695 in acpi-support "default value in power.sh potentially kills laptop disks (dup-of: 17216)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Ubuntu Laptop Team (ubuntu-laptop)
[12:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 17216 in acpi-support "Hard drive spindown should be configurable" [High,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Matthew Garrett (mjg59)
[13:01] <LapTop006> tah
[14:09] <Amaranth> is there any way for me to stop getting email from https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/144077/ ?
[14:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 144077 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[gutsy] Regression - "Desktop effects could not be enabled" on ATI Mobility Radeon" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[14:10] <Amaranth> i'm 'also notified', apparently because the compiz part was marked as invalid rather that changed to something else
[14:10] <Hobbsee> can you unsubscribe?
[14:11] <Amaranth> nope
[14:15] <Kmos> Amaranth: maybe you're part of some them that receives mail's from there
[14:15] <Amaranth> yes, compiz
[14:15] <Amaranth> which is marked as invalid so i'd like the thing to leave me alone
[14:15] <Kmos> :)
[14:16] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: LP still sends mail for invalid bugs
[14:16] <Kmos> you're assigned to the bug ?
[14:16] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: why doesnt the unsubscribe button work?
[14:16] <Hobbsee> Kmos: look.  read.  think.
[14:16] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: there is no unsubscribe button
[14:16] <Kmos> Hobbsee: i'm doing that
[14:16] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: why not?  right hand panel
[14:16] <Kmos> :)
[14:16] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: it says "Subscribe"
[14:16] <Kmos> Amaranth: click there
[14:17] <Hobbsee> Kmos: the guy *probably* would have noticed if he was assigned to the bug.  why would he be assigned, if it's invalid for compiz, and he's a compiz dev
[14:17] <Amaranth> if i do so i end up in the subscribers list instead of the also notified list but if i then unsubscribe i go back to also notified
[14:17] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: whta does the one below say?  something about unsubscribing/subscribing others?
[14:17] <Amaranth> yes
[14:17] <Hobbsee> then click that.
[14:17] <Amaranth> ok, i'll subscribe you :P
[14:18] <Hobbsee> make the compiz guys stop reading the mail.  hit save changes.
[14:18] <jamesh> Amaranth: I don't think we've got a way to stop emailing a package bug contact if their package bug task is marked invalid
[14:18] <jamesh> I assume that's why you're getting email, right?
[14:18] <Hobbsee> or at least, that's how i think i've made it work before
[14:18] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: err, this is to subscribe someone
[14:18] <Amaranth> jamesh: yes
[14:18] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: there are usually multiple options on it
[14:18] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: nope, just an entry to put in a name to subscribe
[14:19] <jamesh> Hobbsee: he is subscribed because he is a bug contact for one of the packages listed on that bug
[14:19] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: damn it.  i think they've nuked an option for it.
[14:19] <Hobbsee> jamesh: exactly
[14:19] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: or perhaps the bug contact for the package doesnt work, but being part of a team subscribed to the bug does.
[14:19] <Amaranth> i just changed the compiz bit to some other package :P
[14:19] <Amaranth> hopefully no one gets mails for eagle
[14:19] <Hobbsee> haha
[14:20] <jamesh> Amaranth: that'd probably work, actually
[14:20] <jamesh> clear the package name on that bug task
[14:20] <Hobbsee> good, you can still subscribe teams
[14:20] <Hobbsee> er, unsubscribe
[14:21] <Amaranth> Hobbsee: no no, i changed what package it was supposedly affecting
[14:21] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: other good solutions include implemetning a filter in your mail client to filter that bug out.
[14:21] <Amaranth> right...gmail
[14:21] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: i realise :)
[14:24]  * Hobbsee looks at the queue...and then looks at dholbach.
[14:24]  * Hobbsee hopes they have a very happy meeting.
[15:15] <Mez> lmao @ the slashdot redirect
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #159027 in launchpad "Subscribe/Unsubscribe 404" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159027
[16:43] <_Shade_> hi there
[16:45] <_Shade_> i have some approved translations listed on the karma summary screen. Can I see these specific strings somehow?
[17:00] <ubotu> New bug: #159036 in malone "Allow marking certain bug tags as "official" within a project or distribution" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159036
[17:06] <pardus> Hi, trying to enable translations for my project, but apperently .pot files needs review first. How many days does that take usually ?
[17:19]  * lamont wonders what time cprov arrives
[17:32] <lifeless> lamont: he is here
[17:39] <lamont> lifeless: yeah - talked with him
[17:47] <pardus> Hmm - wrong channel fo my question, or is everybody out for lunch ?
[17:48] <lifeless> pardus: just busy at UDS and stuff. I think that celso is flying at the moment to the US so it will be a day or two.
[17:48] <pardus> lifeless: thanks, than I will be patient for a while
[17:59] <lamont> lifeless: he's here, but he's not #here. :-)
[18:01] <lifeless> actually I meant carlos:)
[18:13] <Assid> heya
[18:33] <Ubulette> hi
[18:33] <Ubulette> could anyone help for ppa quotas ?
[18:33] <Ubulette> i've filed a question 2 days ago
[18:35] <asac> hey :) ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124336/+nominate doesn't work :(
[18:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124336 in network-manager-applet "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_combo_box_set_model" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[18:46] <ubotu> New bug: #159092 in launchpad "No apparent way to create a FAQ?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159092
[19:20] <laterix> Could someone help me with bazaar? I'm trying to add my project's code into bazaar repository, but it just doesn't appear on site. I ran "bzr init" and then "bzr push <address>". Second command asks private key password. Everything seems to go ok, but I can't see any code on launchpad website. Any ideas?
[19:20] <laterix> This is my project: https://launchpad.net/entertainer
[19:21] <Riddell> laterix: you probably want to commit something after init
[19:21] <laterix> oh, of course. :)
[19:21] <laterix> Stupid me
[19:29] <laterix> no luck :(
[19:30] <Riddell> laterix: so you have an archive with files?  doing bzr log shows commits?
[19:32] <Riddell> laterix: your push is here https://code.launchpad.net/~lauri/entertainer/devel
[19:32] <laterix> I have to admit that I'm new with version controlling... I have a dir for my project "entertainer". In that dir I ran "bzr init" and after that "bzr push bzr+ssh://lauri@bazaar.launchpad.net/~lauri/entertainer/devel" as instructed at Launchpad
[19:32] <laterix> I get
[19:32] <laterix> Enter passphrase for key '/home/late/.ssh/id_rsa': 
[19:32] <laterix> Pushed up to revision 1.
[19:33] <Riddell> well your branch is there, it's just empty
[19:33] <superm1> you have to bzr add, bzr commit still too
[19:33] <Riddell> create a file, bzr add myfile, bzr commit, bzr push
[19:34] <laterix> I see.
[19:36] <laterix> Is there a delay between commit and what I see on web?
[19:40] <superm1> well after you push its usually a minute or two
[19:40] <superm1> but you do have to still push again after commit
[19:41] <laterix> yeah, doing that right now. Seems slow...
[19:45] <laterix> Thanks, now my code seems to be there
[19:45] <laterix> damn. some .svn directories went there...
[19:47] <laterix> Yeah, I'll do it again from scratch. But thanks Riddell and superm1 for your help. I really appriciate it.
[19:47] <superm1> laterix, no prob
[19:47] <superm1> laterix, but dont start over
[19:48] <superm1> you can bzr remove any directories you dont need
[19:48] <superm1> and recommit
[19:48] <superm1> followed by bzr ignore'ing
[19:48] <laterix> Ok, I already removed that branch :) So, I have to do it from scratch now
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #159116 in launchpad ""Change details" is available on distribution release Overview even when forbidden" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159116
[21:00] <ubotu> New bug: #159124 in launchpad "Typo on Launchpad main page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159124
[22:12] <Amaranth> damn it seems someone _does_ get eagle bugmail
[22:13] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: That I do. ~motuscience does.
[22:14] <Fujitsu> It does a lot of evil things, but killing video drivers isn't one of them.
[22:14] <Amaranth> Trying to find a package to dump this bug in so launchpad will stop sending me mail for a bug I've marked invalid
[22:14] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: but it does have a fun bug that's somewhat compiz related
[22:14] <Amaranth> which made me mad so it was the first thing i thought of ;)
[22:15] <Fujitsu> It does, yes.
[22:15] <Amaranth> I bet their developers tossed that in for a joke and figured no one would ever get it
[22:16] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: can you think of a package no one specifically gets bug mail for? :)
[22:17] <Amaranth> it's rather hard to find the bugs i should care about when bugs i've gotten rid of keep bothering me
[22:18] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: Well, you could complain to the LP people that the lack of ability to remove a task or at least unsubscribe from it is completely ludicrous, but that would probably take two years to resolve.
[22:18] <Fujitsu> We need a junk package, like there is a junk project.
[22:19] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: I think it's already been an open bug for that long
[22:21] <Fujitsu> Bug #1342?
[22:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1342 in malone "Can't delete spurious "Affects" lines (bugtasks) from bug reports" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342
[22:22] <Fujitsu> 2 years and almost 4 months.
[22:22] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[22:22] <Amaranth> Why do users think replying saying nothing useful helps a bug somehow?
[22:22] <Fujitsu> Deleting things isn't one of LP's strong points, as we all know, but that doesn't seem to harmful and can't be hard.
[22:23] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: Because that's what users do!
[22:23] <Fujitsu> Which bug is it this time?
[22:23] <Amaranth> One of them is the one you bounced back to me :P
[22:23] <Fujitsu> Ah.
[22:23] <Amaranth> i have about a dozen others though
[22:24] <Amaranth> one of them is a user getting caught by our blacklist and 50 other comments from people saying they have too
[22:24] <Amaranth> it's like 'duh, this is what we meant to do'...
[22:24] <Fujitsu> There's a spec about avoiding that, and providing a me-too button, which would help alleviate that.
[22:25] <Fujitsu> If you make a comment on a bug like that, nobody's going to read it, so..
[22:25] <Amaranth> ooh, and now a user _demanding_ i mark his pet bug as higher priority than wishlist
[22:25] <Amaranth> i give up on bug triage and email
[22:26] <Fujitsu> Haha.
[22:26] <LaserJock> Amaranth: good for you
[22:26] <Fujitsu> Morning LaserJock.
[22:27] <LaserJock> ok, so wait a sec
[22:27] <LaserJock> if a bug has a bug task that you're subscribed to
[22:27] <LaserJock> even though it's "Invalid" you still get all the bugmail?
[22:27] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[22:27] <LaserJock> can you not unsubscribe yourself from the bug?
[22:28] <Fujitsu> That is valid, because there might be discussion about where the bug actually is.
[22:28] <Fujitsu> Right.
[22:28] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: mark it wont fix do to demanding
[22:28] <gnomefreak> s/do/due
[22:28] <Fujitsu> But if it was added accidentally, or definitely isn't a problem in that task, why the heck can't you delete it?
[22:28] <LaserJock> true
[22:28] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: well, it's sort of in between low/wishlist
[22:29] <LaserJock> but being able to unsub from the bug report makes that bug a bit less critical, IMO
[22:29] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: But that defies the point of bug contacts, if you can unsubscribe.
[22:29] <LaserJock> Amaranth: just mark it "Critical" and ignore it for a few months ;-)
[22:30] <LaserJock> Fujitsu: not if it's an occasional thing
[22:30] <Amaranth> LaserJock: then Keybuk will hunt me down :P
[22:30] <LaserJock> the bug contact is so you know what to triage, part of that triage should be "I want nothing to do with this report ever ever again" ;-)
[22:31] <Fujitsu> LaserJock: It would probably be much easier to delete the task. And it makes more sense.
[22:31] <LaserJock> I agree
[22:31] <Fujitsu> And it would show us the LP can actually delete things, which I've never seen done before.
[22:31] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: you can delete packages from your PPA
[22:31] <Amaranth> Fujitsu: well, with administrator intervention
[22:31] <LaserJock> if you ask
[22:31] <Fujitsu> Amaranth: True.
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #159146 in launchpad-answers "OOPS setting account as answer contact " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159146
[22:43] <gnomefreak> how do we stop the uncaught bounces
[22:43] <gnomefreak> they are getting annoying
[22:45] <Fujitsu> Uncaught bounces? What?
[22:47] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: im getting alot of uncought bounces from LP afaik they are posts to bugs
[22:48] <Fujitsu> What do you mean by uncaught bounces?
[22:49] <Fujitsu> gnomefreak: ^^
[22:50] <gnomefreak> ill post the content
[22:50] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/231804
[22:51] <gnomefreak> nvm that looks like mailing list
[22:51] <ajmitch> that looks like mailing list spam
[22:51] <ajmitch> almost as annoying as out-of-office replies on a bug
[22:51] <Fujitsu> How is that LP?
[22:51] <Fujitsu> Yeah.
[22:52] <Fujitsu> ajmitch: I love them, and they're even permanent.
[22:52] <Fujitsu> They really add to the usefulness of the bug.
[22:52]  * ajmitch has seen too many lately on server bugs
[22:52] <Fujitsu> *Server* people using autoreplies?
[22:52] <ajmitch> intelligence is not a prerequisite
[22:53] <Fujitsu> Apparently not.
[22:53] <gnomefreak> i try not to read them since i see them wayyyyyy too often
[22:53] <gnomefreak> i have 8 in email atm
[22:53] <gnomefreak> yesterday was about same
[22:53] <ajmitch> sorry, ubuntu-directory team, looks to be a team member
[23:45] <prabs> hi guys, whats the difference between po and mo formats?
[23:46] <tavla> mo is 'compiled' po, prabs 
[23:48] <prabs> alright cheers :)