[00:30] New bug: #158888 in launchpad-bazaar "bzr register-branch oopses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158888 [00:40] New bug: #158890 in launchpad-bazaar "register branch should be named "register remote branch"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158890 === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbirthday [05:00] New bug: #158920 in malone "printer parallel port " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158920 [05:17] Can somebody please unbreak edge? [05:17] Oh, and the rest of the world too, it seems. [05:18] Did the Slashdotting finally kill something? [05:31] Slashdotting? [05:31] Why would LP get /.'d? [05:33] RAOF: Early this morning that apparently HDD-eating bug was linked to on /. [05:33] Oh, not _that_ bug again. [05:33] In the summary, FFS. [05:33] Slashdotting will undoubtedly improve the usefullness of that bug immesurably. [05:34] Fortunately, somebody redirected the bug page to a static page (like bug #1 was for a while), so people weren't able to comment either. [05:34] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) [05:35] Oh, I see, just edge and staging are dead. [05:36] Yay. [05:36] so uh, edge is telling me to report a problem after it persists for a few minutes [05:36] https://edge.launchpad.net/~jldugger/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all [05:37] ah yes, that lot keeps timing out [05:38] pwnguin: edge and staging are down, I presume they've shifted those servers onto production to handle the load. [05:38] pwnguin: Turn off the edge redirection for while (on https://launchpad.net/) [06:13] hi, I can't open https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blankon/ since ~20 minutes ago [06:13] is this a known problem? [06:13] andika: Head to https://launchpad.net/ and disable the redirection. [06:13] edge and staging seem to be down. [06:13] ok, thanks [06:14] confirmed, using bugs.LP instead of edge works [06:25] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [06:25] Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. [06:25] Thanks for your patience. [06:25] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-about-ubuntu [06:25] willwill: edge is down. Disable your edge redirection at launchpad.net [06:26] RAOF: I got that link from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/2007-10-31/index.html [06:26] willwill: [06:26] RAOF: thanks [06:26] willwill: Then strip the "edge" bit from it :) [06:32] did canonical hire RAOF as an irc point of contact? :) === mpt changed the topic of #launchpad to: edge.launchpad.net and staging.launchpad.net are down temporarily - go to and turn off redirection. | Next developer meeting: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 1400UTC | List: launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Join the beta team: https://help.launchpad.net/JoiningLaunchpadBetaTesters [06:37] pwnguin: :P [07:22] has launchpad taken a long coffee break today? [07:23] yeager: See the topic. [07:23] ah [08:16] I am not able to access answer tracker from today morning [08:17] I am not able to access answer tracker from today morning [08:18] coolbhavi: See the topic. [08:18] Got it [08:18] thanks [09:00] why edge.launchpad.net is down?? [09:00] gary4gar: /topic [09:01] it doesn't tell why, but it tells that's a known problem :) [09:01] Adri2000, i have read the topic but the reason there is not mentioned :S [09:02] Anyone here has a clue why edge.launchpad.net is down?? [09:05] because it got slashdotted. [09:06] *G* [09:11] The "Ubuntu May Be Killing Your Laptop's Hard Drive" or? Hmm I guess you have to have to admires peoples skills for picking the headlines that gives the biggest wow-effect regardless of its relation to the content [09:16] as it was also the case with the "Cracked Linux Boxes Used to Wield Windows Botnets" article *G* [09:27] '/part === gaurish_ is now known as gary4gar [10:09] I'm looking for how to get bugs pushed back upstream in launchpad.net. Anyone know how to do that? [10:11] osh_: You have to do the actual pushing manually. [10:12] Fujitsu: How do you mean? Do I have to report it in the upstream developers bugtracker manually? [10:12] osh_: Yes. [10:13] Fujitsu: That's not fun. ;-/ [10:13] You can then link it by clicking `Also Affects: Project...' and entering the URL. [10:13] Well, it can't really have an account for you in every single bugtracker in existence. [10:15] Fujitsu: Well, no, but couldn't launchpad.net have an account in the major bugtrackers around the world and use that to report bugs that should be pushed there? Just a suggestion. I tend to report all bugs that I find in launchpad since I don't know if the bug is distro specific or something that should be sent upstream. [10:16] Fujitsu: But I do see the problem. Thanks for your answer. [10:17] osh_: that would mean that the account would speak for all launchpad uers [10:17] which would quickly get the entire thing blocked, if osmeone abused it [10:17] alos, what do to with the email generated mail? [10:19] Hobbsee: Hmm, right. So, not doable then? It would be nice to have though. ;-) [10:20] osh_: not really feasible - nor wanted - you'd never be able to really track the stuff again [10:22] Hobbsee: Well, wanted from this users point of view. I'd prefer to just do a bugreport in one place. But again, I do see the problem. [10:23] Thanks for answering my question. I'll stop bothering you now. [10:26] osh_: i'm merely pointing out that the idea is unfeasable - not even going into the technical nature of it. [10:30] dear $launchpad_devs, if edge is down, then how about you kill the bloody redirect to edge? [10:30] or, at least, let us disable for longer than 2 hours [10:30] Hobbsee: You'd think that would make sense. [10:31] Or just not kill edge. [10:31] Fujitsu: oh, i've no problems with shoving hte servers to production [10:31] but it would be *really* nice not to break all the URL's - you cant even take edge. out, as it just redirects you to the broken block again - every 2 hours [10:31] Yeah. [10:31] If you go to beta at the moment, it will send you back. [10:32] Surely a couple of lines of Apache config wouldn't be difficult on edge, or just disabling the redirect. [10:32] Hm, I guess you'd need both. [10:35] to which beta? [10:35] the beta (edge) keeps you on beta [10:35] wonder if elmo is around, and could fix it. [10:35] Hobbsee: I meant beta beta, not edge beta. [10:35] we have a beta beta? [10:36] oh, right [10:36] It hasn't been turned on for several months, but it's still there. [10:36] right, yes. i thought it got renamed to edge :) [10:36] beta is apparently still around for big, private changes, or so. [11:09] any way to sort https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=&build_state=pending via arch? [11:09] damn edge down [11:10] kiko: yeah [11:10] Hobbsee, I don't think so -- probably worth filing a bug [11:10] kiko: i'd prefer to see the queue fixed first :) [11:10] Hobbsee, me too! [11:10] seeing as this is just a curiosity thing [11:10] whereas that stops me from doing actual ubuntu work. [11:10] (completely, in that area) [11:11] off to gym [11:11] have fun [11:13] Hobbsee: You can, just stick it after the hardy/. So https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/+builds [11:13] Fujitsu: ah, nice! [11:14] Fujitsu: i thought there was probably some sneaky URL way to do it [11:14] Soyuz navigation rocks. [11:14] (I'm not sure that's linked from anywhere useful) [11:15] ah, so only 1912 to go. [11:15] might be worth upgrading :) [11:18] Gaaaah, the UDS schedule seems to link directly to edge. [11:19] Fujitsu: go to launchpad.net and disable the redirect to edge [11:19] carlos_: No, the links link directly to edge. [11:19] well, that's easy to fix [11:19] Silly edge and it's brokenness. :) [11:19] Keybuk's not around, it would seem. [11:19] Fujitsu: just remove 'edge' from the URL [11:19] but you will need to remove the redirect first [11:20] carlos_: Well, I know, but I want clickiness. [11:20] Fujitsu: sure, just pointing how to be able to start working now, while the issue is fixed [11:20] carlos_: I've already the redirect off several times today, and it is off now, but I still have to mangle the URLs. [11:20] As will the rest of the world in an hour. [11:20] yeah, not ideal... [11:20] Erm, s/already/already turned/ === carlos_ is now known as carlos [11:21] Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a more informative error page for long-term situations like this? [11:22] carlos: do you have permissions to disable the redirect at the moment? [11:22] until edge is actually back? [11:22] * Fujitsu doubts it. [11:22] Fujitsu: I just connected so I don't know exactly the problem, I just know it's not working and also, any edge breakage shouldn't take too long, I guess main problem is having most people travelling today [11:22] how can i register a super project? [11:22] carlos: I don't think it's broken. [11:22] Hobbsee: no, I'm a plain user in launchpad, except for translations [11:23] I think the edge app server(s) have been reassigned to production to handle slashdotting. [11:23] As staging is gone too. [11:23] carlos: pity [11:23] Hobbsee: our admins are working on the issue [11:24] carlos: about getting edge back up, or getting rid of the redirect? [11:24] Fujitsu: is not that, at least from what the short information I have [11:24] Hobbsee: about getting edge back up [11:24] right [11:24] carlos: Hm, OK. [11:26] i tried just registering a regular project and then select it as a super project in other projects but that didn't work. also when registering or modifing a project i can only see an option to make a project part of a super project but none to make it a super project itself. [11:26] jrb_: File a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad. [11:26] Only ~admins can create project groups. [11:26] ah thanks [11:43] Fujitsu: edge is fixed now [11:43] Hobbsee: ^^^ [11:44] carlos: great! [11:45] carlos: Thanks. Are you able to say what was wrong? [11:45] New bug: #158977 in blueprint "Release Series blueprint page should know that I'm not a driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158977 [11:45] Fujitsu: a problem in our latest code landing [11:46] (I note that staging is still down, though that's not important) [11:46] I had to disable something that prevented the servers to start (we do automatic code updates for edge and staging from latest code in our repository) [11:46] and no one was around to fix it due to most of us travelling to Boston right now [11:46] Fujitsu: it will be online again soon [11:47] carlos: Thanks. [11:48] Fujitsu: ok, forget that last part, staging will not be fixed with my workaround (yet) [12:01] * carlos -> out see you all later!! [12:04] how can i delete a release series? [12:06] jrb_: I think you'll have to ask a question on the answer tracker to get that done, again, as only ~admins can do that. [12:08] okay:) === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee === Dragon64_ is now known as Dragon64 === Dragon64 is now known as Dragon-64 [12:53] The "subscribe" link doesn't work on: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html [12:53] 'tis a 404 [12:53] I also can't figure out how to get the "logged in" version of that page [12:53] everything I try redirects or 404's [12:53] because it's static [12:53] and is not a launchpad page. [12:53] (like the otehrs) [12:54] it still shouldn't 404 [12:54] I do understand *why* ti's static [12:54] but I don't see why I can't force a dynamic version if I'm logged in [12:55] if the links don't work remove them from teh static versions [12:56] it....does....? [12:56] you're viewing the static html version of the page. [12:56] if you go via the normal urls, it works fine [12:57] tried the normal urls [12:57] they redirect me even if I add get variables to ensure it's not a caching thing [12:58] then you would know that https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 works... [12:58] Launchpad bug 59695 in acpi-support "default value in power.sh potentially kills laptop disks (dup-of: 17216)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ubuntu Laptop Team (ubuntu-laptop) [12:58] Launchpad bug 17216 in acpi-support "Hard drive spindown should be configurable" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Matthew Garrett (mjg59) [13:01] tah === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee === Dragon-64 is now known as Dragon64 [14:09] is there any way for me to stop getting email from https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/144077/ ? [14:09] Launchpad bug 144077 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[gutsy] Regression - "Desktop effects could not be enabled" on ATI Mobility Radeon" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:10] i'm 'also notified', apparently because the compiz part was marked as invalid rather that changed to something else [14:10] can you unsubscribe? [14:11] nope [14:15] Amaranth: maybe you're part of some them that receives mail's from there [14:15] yes, compiz [14:15] which is marked as invalid so i'd like the thing to leave me alone [14:15] :) [14:16] Amaranth: LP still sends mail for invalid bugs [14:16] you're assigned to the bug ? [14:16] Amaranth: why doesnt the unsubscribe button work? [14:16] Kmos: look. read. think. [14:16] Hobbsee: there is no unsubscribe button [14:16] Hobbsee: i'm doing that [14:16] Amaranth: why not? right hand panel [14:16] :) [14:16] Hobbsee: it says "Subscribe" [14:16] Amaranth: click there [14:17] Kmos: the guy *probably* would have noticed if he was assigned to the bug. why would he be assigned, if it's invalid for compiz, and he's a compiz dev [14:17] if i do so i end up in the subscribers list instead of the also notified list but if i then unsubscribe i go back to also notified [14:17] Amaranth: whta does the one below say? something about unsubscribing/subscribing others? [14:17] yes [14:17] then click that. [14:17] ok, i'll subscribe you :P [14:18] make the compiz guys stop reading the mail. hit save changes. [14:18] Amaranth: I don't think we've got a way to stop emailing a package bug contact if their package bug task is marked invalid [14:18] I assume that's why you're getting email, right? [14:18] or at least, that's how i think i've made it work before [14:18] Hobbsee: err, this is to subscribe someone [14:18] jamesh: yes [14:18] Amaranth: there are usually multiple options on it [14:18] Hobbsee: nope, just an entry to put in a name to subscribe [14:19] Hobbsee: he is subscribed because he is a bug contact for one of the packages listed on that bug [14:19] Amaranth: damn it. i think they've nuked an option for it. [14:19] jamesh: exactly [14:19] Amaranth: or perhaps the bug contact for the package doesnt work, but being part of a team subscribed to the bug does. [14:19] i just changed the compiz bit to some other package :P [14:19] hopefully no one gets mails for eagle [14:19] haha [14:20] Amaranth: that'd probably work, actually [14:20] clear the package name on that bug task [14:20] good, you can still subscribe teams [14:20] er, unsubscribe [14:21] Hobbsee: no no, i changed what package it was supposedly affecting [14:21] Amaranth: other good solutions include implemetning a filter in your mail client to filter that bug out. [14:21] right...gmail [14:21] Amaranth: i realise :) [14:24] * Hobbsee looks at the queue...and then looks at dholbach. [14:24] * Hobbsee hopes they have a very happy meeting. === Rinchen changed the topic of #launchpad to: Next developer meeting: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 1400UTC | List: launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | Help: https://help.launchpad.net | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Join the beta team: https://help.launchpad.net/JoiningLaunchpadBetaTesters [15:15] lmao @ the slashdot redirect === Kmos_ is now known as Kmos [15:31] New bug: #159027 in launchpad "Subscribe/Unsubscribe 404" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159027 [16:43] <_Shade_> hi there [16:45] <_Shade_> i have some approved translations listed on the karma summary screen. Can I see these specific strings somehow? [17:00] New bug: #159036 in malone "Allow marking certain bug tags as "official" within a project or distribution" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159036 [17:06] Hi, trying to enable translations for my project, but apperently .pot files needs review first. How many days does that take usually ? === tck_ is now known as tck [17:19] * lamont wonders what time cprov arrives [17:32] lamont: he is here [17:39] lifeless: yeah - talked with him [17:47] Hmm - wrong channel fo my question, or is everybody out for lunch ? [17:48] pardus: just busy at UDS and stuff. I think that celso is flying at the moment to the US so it will be a day or two. [17:48] lifeless: thanks, than I will be patient for a while [17:59] lifeless: he's here, but he's not #here. :-) [18:01] actually I meant carlos:) === tck_ is now known as tck [18:13] heya [18:33] hi [18:33] could anyone help for ppa quotas ? [18:33] i've filed a question 2 days ago [18:35] hey :) ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/124336/+nominate doesn't work :( [18:35] Launchpad bug 124336 in network-manager-applet "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_combo_box_set_model" [Medium,Confirmed] [18:46] New bug: #159092 in launchpad "No apparent way to create a FAQ?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159092 [19:20] Could someone help me with bazaar? I'm trying to add my project's code into bazaar repository, but it just doesn't appear on site. I ran "bzr init" and then "bzr push

". Second command asks private key password. Everything seems to go ok, but I can't see any code on launchpad website. Any ideas? [19:20] This is my project: https://launchpad.net/entertainer [19:21] laterix: you probably want to commit something after init [19:21] oh, of course. :) [19:21] Stupid me [19:29] no luck :( [19:30] laterix: so you have an archive with files? doing bzr log shows commits? [19:32] laterix: your push is here https://code.launchpad.net/~lauri/entertainer/devel [19:32] I have to admit that I'm new with version controlling... I have a dir for my project "entertainer". In that dir I ran "bzr init" and after that "bzr push bzr+ssh://lauri@bazaar.launchpad.net/~lauri/entertainer/devel" as instructed at Launchpad [19:32] I get [19:32] Enter passphrase for key '/home/late/.ssh/id_rsa': [19:32] Pushed up to revision 1. [19:33] well your branch is there, it's just empty [19:33] you have to bzr add, bzr commit still too [19:33] create a file, bzr add myfile, bzr commit, bzr push [19:34] I see. [19:36] Is there a delay between commit and what I see on web? [19:40] well after you push its usually a minute or two [19:40] but you do have to still push again after commit [19:41] yeah, doing that right now. Seems slow... [19:45] Thanks, now my code seems to be there [19:45] damn. some .svn directories went there... [19:47] Yeah, I'll do it again from scratch. But thanks Riddell and superm1 for your help. I really appriciate it. [19:47] laterix, no prob [19:47] laterix, but dont start over [19:48] you can bzr remove any directories you dont need [19:48] and recommit [19:48] followed by bzr ignore'ing [19:48] Ok, I already removed that branch :) So, I have to do it from scratch now [20:40] New bug: #159116 in launchpad ""Change details" is available on distribution release Overview even when forbidden" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159116 [21:00] New bug: #159124 in launchpad "Typo on Launchpad main page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159124 [22:12] damn it seems someone _does_ get eagle bugmail [22:13] Amaranth: That I do. ~motuscience does. [22:14] It does a lot of evil things, but killing video drivers isn't one of them. [22:14] Trying to find a package to dump this bug in so launchpad will stop sending me mail for a bug I've marked invalid [22:14] Fujitsu: but it does have a fun bug that's somewhat compiz related [22:14] which made me mad so it was the first thing i thought of ;) [22:15] It does, yes. [22:15] I bet their developers tossed that in for a joke and figured no one would ever get it === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [22:16] Fujitsu: can you think of a package no one specifically gets bug mail for? :) [22:17] it's rather hard to find the bugs i should care about when bugs i've gotten rid of keep bothering me === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [22:18] Amaranth: Well, you could complain to the LP people that the lack of ability to remove a task or at least unsubscribe from it is completely ludicrous, but that would probably take two years to resolve. [22:18] We need a junk package, like there is a junk project. [22:19] Fujitsu: I think it's already been an open bug for that long [22:21] Bug #1342? [22:21] Launchpad bug 1342 in malone "Can't delete spurious "Affects" lines (bugtasks) from bug reports" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342 [22:22] 2 years and almost 4 months. [22:22] *sigh* [22:22] Why do users think replying saying nothing useful helps a bug somehow? [22:22] Deleting things isn't one of LP's strong points, as we all know, but that doesn't seem to harmful and can't be hard. [22:23] Amaranth: Because that's what users do! [22:23] Which bug is it this time? [22:23] One of them is the one you bounced back to me :P [22:23] Ah. [22:23] i have about a dozen others though [22:24] one of them is a user getting caught by our blacklist and 50 other comments from people saying they have too [22:24] it's like 'duh, this is what we meant to do'... [22:24] There's a spec about avoiding that, and providing a me-too button, which would help alleviate that. [22:25] If you make a comment on a bug like that, nobody's going to read it, so.. [22:25] ooh, and now a user _demanding_ i mark his pet bug as higher priority than wishlist [22:25] i give up on bug triage and email [22:26] Haha. [22:26] Amaranth: good for you [22:26] Morning LaserJock. [22:27] ok, so wait a sec [22:27] if a bug has a bug task that you're subscribed to [22:27] even though it's "Invalid" you still get all the bugmail? [22:27] Yep. [22:27] can you not unsubscribe yourself from the bug? [22:28] That is valid, because there might be discussion about where the bug actually is. [22:28] Right. [22:28] Amaranth: mark it wont fix do to demanding [22:28] s/do/due [22:28] But if it was added accidentally, or definitely isn't a problem in that task, why the heck can't you delete it? [22:28] true [22:28] gnomefreak: well, it's sort of in between low/wishlist [22:29] but being able to unsub from the bug report makes that bug a bit less critical, IMO [22:29] LaserJock: But that defies the point of bug contacts, if you can unsubscribe. [22:29] Amaranth: just mark it "Critical" and ignore it for a few months ;-) [22:30] Fujitsu: not if it's an occasional thing [22:30] LaserJock: then Keybuk will hunt me down :P [22:30] the bug contact is so you know what to triage, part of that triage should be "I want nothing to do with this report ever ever again" ;-) [22:31] LaserJock: It would probably be much easier to delete the task. And it makes more sense. [22:31] I agree [22:31] And it would show us the LP can actually delete things, which I've never seen done before. [22:31] Fujitsu: you can delete packages from your PPA [22:31] Fujitsu: well, with administrator intervention [22:31] if you ask [22:31] Amaranth: True. [22:35] New bug: #159146 in launchpad-answers "OOPS setting account as answer contact " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159146 [22:43] how do we stop the uncaught bounces [22:43] they are getting annoying [22:45] Uncaught bounces? What? [22:47] Fujitsu: im getting alot of uncought bounces from LP afaik they are posts to bugs [22:48] What do you mean by uncaught bounces? [22:49] gnomefreak: ^^ [22:50] ill post the content [22:50] http://pastebin.mozilla.org/231804 [22:51] nvm that looks like mailing list [22:51] that looks like mailing list spam [22:51] almost as annoying as out-of-office replies on a bug [22:51] How is that LP? [22:51] Yeah. [22:52] ajmitch: I love them, and they're even permanent. [22:52] They really add to the usefulness of the bug. [22:52] * ajmitch has seen too many lately on server bugs [22:52] *Server* people using autoreplies? [22:52] intelligence is not a prerequisite [22:53] Apparently not. [22:53] i try not to read them since i see them wayyyyyy too often [22:53] i have 8 in email atm [22:53] yesterday was about same [22:53] sorry, ubuntu-directory team, looks to be a team member [23:45] hi guys, whats the difference between po and mo formats? [23:46] mo is 'compiled' po, prabs [23:48] alright cheers :)