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therethinkerI don't think I did my cronjob correctly...00:15
therethinkerDo I need to reset cron or something>00:16
solarbabywhat are you doing with cron? did you type crontab -e00:18
solarbabydirecthex: thanks for the push in the right direction.. its working now00:20
directhexsolarbaby, it's a generic os problem. i had it lots with windows00:21
solarbabydirecthex: heres the hard part.. enabling tv out on my dell latitude 61000:40
tazgodxso whats better installing the RC i already have D/Led? or should i d/l the final?00:59
solarbabyThere both pretty good :)  I'm using Final and I love it01:07
solarbabyIm betting there are more bug fixes in final so i'd go for that01:07
directhexthe point of a real distro is to make updates easy01:08
directhexthere's no difference between an installed rc updated, and an installed release version - the only differences lie in the installer itself01:09
directhexwhether those installer issues are blockers for you, that's another matter01:09
solarbabydirecthex: I dont think getting TV out is going to be as easy01:12
directhexmeh. anyway, bedtime01:12
solarbabydirecthex: G'night01:12
levanderWhat's this at the end of the mythbuntu installation about needing to pay "Schedules Direct" a nominal fee to get guide data?01:47
levanderI thought people just filled out some survey periodically, and got guide data for free?01:47
tgm4883levander, that went away this year01:48
levanderDo people not in N. America get free guide data?01:48
tgm4883kinda01:48
tgm4883some just get it a different route01:49
levanderdamn01:49
tgm4883ie, EIT data01:49
tgm4883seriously though, it's $20 a year and a really good service01:49
levanderWell, if I don't set up a guide data source during installation, I'm not gonna mess things up am I?  I don't even know if I'm gonna use MythTV regular yet.01:50
tgm4883well you would set it up in mythtv-setup, at the end of installation its just a link to their web site01:51
tgm4883and they also offer a 7 day trial01:51
levanderI can't just set up mythbuntu without creating the trial account?  I just want to make sure the hardware works.01:51
levanderThis Schedules Direct claims to be non-profit, but $20/year, I'd be surprised if they weren't making some profit off that.01:52
tgm4883_laptopyea you can set it up without setting up a data source01:54
tgm4883_laptopand be surprised01:54
tgm4883_laptopcause they have all the non profit forms and such01:54
levanderbe surprised at what?01:54
tgm4883_laptop<levander> This Schedules Direct claims to be non-profit, but $20/year, I'd be surprised if they weren't making some profit off that.01:54
levanderYou think just cause you tell the government that you're not making any money means that you're really not making any money?01:55
tgm4883_laptoplook, im not going to get into an argument about this on here cause it's irrevelant01:55
tgm4883_laptopbut things do cost money01:55
levanderThey're sending you cash in the back door aren't they tgm?01:56
tgm4883_laptopwhats your problem?01:56
levanderproblem?01:56
levanderI don't know, what's the problem?01:57
tgm4883_laptopif you want the service great.  If not fine by me.  If they are making money on it, good for them, I don't really care01:57
tgm4883_laptopthey offer a service, im happy to pay for it01:57
tgm4883_laptopit's the things that they have done that (like lowering the price) that shows me they are not in it to make a profit01:58
tgm4883_laptopscrew it, im going to go watch basketball01:59
tazgodxtgm4883_laptop: ever get MRE working?01:59
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, no i haven't worked on it since that one night.  Foxbuntu said he was going to look at it, but I haven't checked back with him02:00
tazgodxhaha02:00
tazgodxk02:00
levanderI have no idea what most of the text boxes are for at the end of the mythbuntu setup process, during the mythtv setup.  If I don't know what it is, is it probably okay just to accept the defaults?02:21
rhpot1991I think I might need to look into toning down my bitrate a bit02:23
rhpot1991these files are too big to backup anywhere02:23
rhpot1991and its taking foreverrrrr to compress them02:23
buzztuCan I use a laptop with a radeon Mobility 7500 with tv out as a frontend?02:24
rhpot1991I'd imagine so02:24
rhpot1991so long as you can get tv out working02:25
keescooksuperm1: lirc uploaded.  :)  thanks for fixing the lintian bits.02:26
superm1no prob.  thanks for the upload02:26
superm1i expect the future ones will be much more crack filled, and need a more in depth look :)02:27
superm1whenever i get around to sorting out a good idea for multiple devices without hal and udev support02:27
rhpot1991what exactly does the dynamic button mappings in MCC do?02:27
rhpot1991I decided to mess around with it last night while I was helping someone set up lirc02:28
superm1rhpot1991, it reads all the buttons in lircd.conf and attempts to map them to lircrc actions02:28
rhpot1991and if you don't check that it does what instead?02:28
rhpot1991just ignores them?02:28
keescooksuperm1: hehe.  yay crack :)02:29
superm1rhpot1991, if you dont check the box, it doesnt generate new ones02:30
superm1it uses existing ones if they are there02:30
rhpot1991well what happens if no lircrc exists, it will make one or not?02:31
superm1if the box isn't checked it will not make one02:31
rhpot1991ah ok, that answers it02:31
rhpot1991anyone with a hauppauge card, if so what do you have your bitrates set at?02:33
frank23rhpot1991: I just left it at the defaults02:41
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, 900002:41
rhpot1991hey, I have mine at 9000, 12000max02:42
superm1who was that guy having trouble with the pv5-350 yesterday?02:42
superm1or pvr-35002:42
tgm4883_laptop720x48002:42
rhpot1991pirture is real nice02:42
superm1started with a p02:42
rhpot1991ya same resolution too02:42
rhpot1991but its 4gb per hour02:42
tgm4883_laptopI do mine at 9000/9000 cause thats the max DVD spec02:42
rhpot1991superm1 I think there were 2 different people02:42
rhpot1991one who couldn't get tv out working02:42
superm1yeah the tv out guy02:43
superm1i have a fix for him to try02:43
superm1on my ppa02:43
rhpot1991one who was a newbie and was going through setup02:43
rhpot1991its off my screen, can't see02:43
rhpot1991any kind of logging happen in here?02:43
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rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: do you go ahead an encode them at any time or do you leave them lay around as huge mpeg2 files?02:44
tgm4883_laptopmpeg202:45
tgm4883_laptopbut mine are only about 2.7 per hour02:45
rhpot1991prob cause my max is higher02:45
rhpot1991I need to get a dvd burner into this so I can mess around with archiving02:46
rhpot1991for some reason I left a burner in the slave backend and never put one into the master...02:46
solarbaby(Singing) What a Difference a Delayed Bowel Movement Makes!!03:06
solarbabyI feel much better now03:07
dwf_starbandbut did you weigh yourself before and after?03:09
solarbabyI really should have03:10
solarbaby2 flushes :)03:11
solarbabyI think the trick is to stay away from that cerial with high fiber03:11
dwf_starbandor eat whatever you want as long as you have an equal portion of cheese03:12
dwf_starbandthats how i do it anyways03:12
solarbabythats not a bad idea03:13
dwf_starbandif too stuffed up, drink more coffee03:14
dwf_starbandif to regular, eat more cheese03:14
dwf_starbanduntill its just righ03:14
dwf_starbandright03:14
solarbabyheheh03:14
solarbabysounds like words to live by03:14
dwf_starbandand I can honestly say i eat a ballanced diet03:15
levanderIf I only have dual 550 MHz CPU's, should I not check "Start Auto-Commercial Flagging jobs when the recording starts"?03:42
solarbabytry it and see03:43
solarbabyhonestly thats about the best advice I can offer..03:43
tgm4883_laptopwhat kind of tuners03:43
solarbabytmg4883_l: your so technical03:44
levanderwintv pvr 500 (i think 500, i can check), but it's the one with dual tuners03:44
levanderit has hardware mpeg encoders03:44
levanderfor each tuner03:44
tgm4883_laptopok03:45
tgm4883_laptopyea i'd test it out.  You're going to want to watch a show at the same time.  That will create the most load03:46
levanderI have two CPU's, so I assume the commercial flagging would happen on one CPU, and the decoding the other channel would happen on the other CPU?03:47
tgm4883_laptopi'd hope so03:47
frank23levander: the commercial flagging is no that cpu intensive. My guess is that you would be ok03:47
levandercool, i'll test it03:48
tgm4883_laptopactually03:48
tgm4883_laptopAFAIK, the commercial flagging is very CPU intensive03:48
frank23oh...03:49
levanderIf I have 2 CPU's, I'd want "Maximum simulataneous jobs on this backend" to be 2, and not 1, correct?03:51
tgm4883_laptopi'd say 1 for that03:51
levanderfrank23: my *guess* is that it would be, processing video is always processor intensive.03:51
tgm4883_laptopbecause you do have 2 processors, but 1 should be doing the commflagging03:52
solarbabyIm starting to wonder if getting TV out to work on this old dell laptop will be more trouble then its worth03:52
tgm4883_laptopwhile the other will be used for playing video and such03:52
tgm4883_laptopin a perfect world anyway03:52
frank23levander: you can try. but I rarely watch recordings that are currently being recorded anyways.03:52
levandertgm4883_laptop: What if I want to record 2 shows at once?  With the backend max jobs set to 1, am I going to be able to record both?03:52
tgm4883_laptopyea, because recording a program isn't considered a job03:53
levandertgm4883_laptop: okay, thanks03:53
tgm4883_laptopmine is set to 1, and I record 2 shows at once on the same backend03:53
levandertgm4883_laptop: what is a "job"?03:53
tgm4883_laptopthere are a few03:53
levanderjust gimme an example to get my head around it03:54
dwf_starbandconverting the video to xvid to play on my handheld03:54
tgm4883_laptopbasically it's the things that they have set as jobs.  commflagging is a job, so is transcoding03:54
levanderah, okay, thanks guys03:54
tgm4883_laptopand I believe you can also set 4 manual jobs03:54
tgm4883_laptopie, scripts to run03:54
levanderso, with a dual cpu, yall are saying to only run one job at a time, reserving the other CPU for whatever else Myth does?03:55
tgm4883_laptopyes03:55
levandercool03:55
tgm4883_laptoponly because it's only a 55003:55
tgm4883_laptopif you had something in the multi GHZ range I would change my thoughts on that03:56
dwf_starbandif I have it set for 2 jobs, say a show finishes recording, the commflagging is one and converting to xvid would be another, but if they go at the same time will the xvid have the commercials still in it?03:57
tgm4883_laptopdwf_starband, IDK, I would hope that in that instance there would be some checking.  Perhaps 2 jobs cannot be ran on the same show at once03:59
dwf_starbandi havent tried it since installing mythbuntu, but when i was playing around with my own install of mythtv i tried it and the xvid had the first couple of commercials and then no more, probably the commercial flagging went faster thant the transcoding, im not sure, but thats what it seemed like04:02
[R]when installing mythbuntu... what exaltly does setting the "type of system" do... ?04:35
solarbabyAnyone got TV out working on a Dell Latitude?  its becoming more of a pain then I orginally thought it would be04:35
superm1[R], its all described in the PDF on the website04:35
solarbabyDo you mean system roll?04:36
[R]yeah04:36
[R]that one04:36
solarbabyor System Roles as they put it04:36
solarbabysuperm1 is right if you dont understand that you need to read up on it..  basicly if you want the record stuff with the computer your installing this too.. then it must be a back end.. most likely it'll become your master backend, and if you also wanna play what you record using that computer then it must also be a frontend04:37
solarbabyand its all really well documented.. dont skip reading the installation instructions or you'll have a bad week04:37
* solarbaby grins at Superm104:39
superm1thanks solarbaby :)04:39
solarbaby"don't skip reading the installation instructions or you'll have a bad week" should become our bumper sticker04:39
R_did you see the last thing i said?04:40
superm1<[R]> when installing mythbuntu... what exaltly does setting the "type of system" do... ?04:41
superm1<[R]> that one04:41
superm1is what i saw04:41
R_i understand how myth works... i just want to know what the setting actually does... is it just what gets installed? or is there more to it04:41
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superm1R_, so you are looking for very technical details?04:41
superm1i mean i can lead you through the code04:41
superm1the high level changes are what packages get installed though yes04:42
[R]ah04:42
[R]where can i d/l the code for the installer?04:42
superm1there is a bzr branch on launchpad04:42
superm1or you can apt-get source ubiquity04:43
superm1we're part of the normal ubiquity branch04:43
bronsonsuperm1: sorry I haven't had much of a chance to look at the Hauppauge Gray / PVR 350 remote problem.04:43
bronsonI did run irw -- it gets everything 100% correct.04:43
superm1bronson, with lircrc mappings?04:43
rhpot1991someone had a problem with the lircrc mappings last night04:43
bronson~/.lircrc?04:44
superm1yeah04:44
bronsonProbably...  It's a pretty complex file.04:44
rhpot1991he was claiming most of the buttons didn't do anything04:44
bronsonrhpot1991: that's my problem too.04:44
[R]superm1: nice, thanks04:44
rhpot1991I ended up giving him my lircrc and walked him through installing it04:44
bronsonVolume+/- work, just about everything else is broken.04:44
superm1[R], i'll warn you its fairly complex before you get into it04:44
rhpot1991bronson: http://www.baablogic.net/lircrc04:44
rhpot1991feel free to use that04:45
superm1[R], are you looking to adapt similar things?04:45
[R]no04:45
[R]just curious whats going on04:45
superm1just curious?04:45
superm1ah04:45
bronsonrhpot1991: did you produce that by hand?04:45
rhpot1991nope, got it from either the mythtv wiki or ubuntu wiki04:45
[R]i think its easier to hack on mythbuntu intead of a regular ubuntu04:45
* bronson gives it a whirl...04:45
rhpot1991a few months back04:45
superm1[R], in what sense?04:46
rhpot1991just back up your old one04:46
rhpot1991incase you want to roll back04:46
rhpot1991MCC seemed to be creating a .lircrc and a .mythtv/lircrc (that or the guy screwed his install up last night)04:46
rhpot1991I normally just symlink all my users to the same one04:46
[R]superm1: i have a myth system setup right now very specifically... and i'm looking to siwtch to ubuntu, and mythbuntu looks like a better starting point then ubuntu04:46
superm1[R], yes i would most definitely agree there.04:47
bronsonrhpot1991: so I can roll back to something that doesn't really work at all?  ;)04:47
[R]i just dont really have a lot of ubuntu experience... no better time to learn04:47
rhpot1991heh, better than rolling back to nothing04:47
rhpot1991backup first, ask questions later04:47
superm1[R], most people learn "after" install when they get curious04:47
rhpot1991I've been real sad about doing it the other way around in the past04:47
superm1bit of an oddball there04:47
bronsonDo I need to hup anything?04:48
[R]hehe... well i want to make sure the options i select in the installer are the best for what i need to do04:48
rhpot1991hup?04:48
bronsonkill -hup, tell a daemon to reload its config.04:48
rhpot1991nah shouldn't04:48
superm1[R], they are all reconfigurable post install04:48
superm1via mcc04:48
rhpot1991just drop it in your user's home04:48
bronsonOK, giving it a shot...  back in a bit.04:49
rhpot1991alright04:49
rhpot1991good luck04:49
[R]well the main thing i erally wanted to know was the roles thing... but if it just controls what gets installed, thats pretty much all i need for now04:49
solarbabyUbuntuMyth is the easiest install ever, unless your hardware isn't supported04:50
superm1[R], well in general yes that's what it does, but it has a few preconfigured items that get handled in the installer too04:51
[R]well guess i should get greppin'04:51
superm1do you have some particular items you're lookign to see what happens?04:52
superm1or just general curiosity?04:52
solarbabyI wanna watch Bill Gates install UbuntuMyth04:53
[R]mostly the roles... but thats all i remember04:53
[R]i installed it last night and dont remember evertything04:53
rhpot1991hmmm I think I have pinpointed this sata speed problem to ubuntu04:58
rhpot1991doesn't happen in knoppix04:58
bronsonHm...  better.  At least more keys respond now.04:58
bronsonBut it's still all messed up.04:59
rhpot1991what is messed up?04:59
rhpot1991prob gonna have to hack keys yourself to get them how you want it04:59
bronsonWhat the keys do.  Volume up/down seem to change how fast the video is played back.04:59
bronsonBack/Exit doesn't back or exit out of anything.05:00
rhpot1991strange05:00
bronsonYep.05:00
rhpot1991perhaps your lirc.conf doesn't match with mine05:00
rhpot1991fire up irw05:00
bronsonI'm using yours.  :)05:00
rhpot1991hit the keys you are questioning05:00
rhpot1991well there is another file too05:00
bronsonirw shows everything is correct afaitc05:01
rhpot1991then find them in lircrc05:01
rhpot1991and make sure what you want them to do is in there05:01
rhpot1991also double check and make sure that keystroke does what you think it should, maybe your keystrokes are wonky?05:01
bronsonIt looks like everything is correct...  I hit Back/Exit, irw reports that I hit "000000000000179f 01 Back/Exit Hauppauge_350", and your .lircrc turns Back/Exit into Esc.05:03
bronsonBut when I hit Back/Exit in MythTV, nothing happens.05:03
bronsonEsc works of course.05:03
rhpot1991hmmm05:03
rhpot1991did you make a symlink to ./mythv/lircrc?05:04
rhpot1991lag brb05:04
bronsonNope!05:04
rhpot1991do that, link the file you downloaded to there05:04
bronson~/mythtv/lircrc is a regular file.  Should it be a symlink?05:04
bronsonOK.05:04
rhpot1991back her up first :)05:04
bronsonTrying again...05:05
bronsonWell, that works better.05:07
bronsonBack/Exit works now.05:07
bronsonGuide doesn't bring up anything though.05:07
bronsonAnd it's really weird: if I hit any button at all, video playback stops for a second, then goes really fast to catch up.05:08
bronsonIt looks really weird when adjusting the volume.05:08
bronsonIs that normal?05:08
rhpot1991it would be real nice if comcast would stop f*cking with my connectiong every night05:09
bronsoncomcast drove me batty.  Every night right at midnight, a 20 minute outage.05:10
rhpot1991seriously05:11
rhpot1991let me check mine05:11
rhpot1991I know the guide worked when I generated the dynamic buttons with MCC05:11
rhpot1991but back/exit was delete05:11
bronsonDo you get the long pause whenever you hit a button on the remote?05:12
rhpot1991sometimes it gets laggy05:13
rhpot1991hmmm, I broke something05:13
bronsonI guess I'm not a fan of lirc...  too complex for what it does.05:14
bronsonWhy not just let the kernel take care of keymapping?05:15
rhpot1991I wonder if MCC overwrote my lircd.conf05:15
bronsonI can send you a copy.  ;)05:16
rhpot1991give me a few minutes to finish something else up then I'll have a look05:17
solarbabyis anyone besides me foolish enough to run Myth on a Dell Latitude?05:23
solarbabyAll i really wanted was the TV ability..  and thats the only thing thats making me angry05:24
JThundleyheh05:26
bronsonno, but a few years ago I tried running myth on a Via Epia M10000...  Now THAT was foolish.05:26
rhpot1991is that a c3?05:26
bronsonYa, I think so.05:26
rhpot1991why so foolish?05:27
rhpot1991I still poke at them every now and then thinking how it would make an awesome frontend05:27
bronsonBecause Via never fixed the DMA issues.  Watch TV for 45 mins, freeze, wait for the box to reboot...05:27
rhpot1991sucky05:28
bronsonIt would be great hardware if Via would ever finish the software.05:28
rhpot1991http://www.woot.com/05:28
rhpot1991ya, guide doesn't work with that lircrc that I pasted you05:29
rhpot1991but back/exit does05:29
rhpot1991copy that05:29
rhpot1991generate a new one with MCC (check the dynamic generate box)05:29
rhpot1991then mix and match buttons05:29
rhpot1991guide works in the MCC version05:29
bronsonWhat does woot charge for shipping?05:29
rhpot1991$5 flat IIRC05:30
rhpot1991$7.99 + $5 shipping05:30
bronsonhuh.  Good thing I'm out of USB ports.  :)05:30
rhpot1991I'm searching for linux compatability05:30
rhpot1991would be a cool thing to hook up to my mythboxes05:30
BHSPitMonkeyhi all05:33
rhpot1991whats up?05:34
bronsonHm, yeah...  if it works with mythphone, that might be slick.05:34
rhpot1991google doesn't seem to indicate that it will play nice with linux05:34
rhpot1991I'll have to check the comments in the morning and see what is said about it05:38
foxbunturhpot1991, there is a pretty awesome wifi phone for skype out there much better than usb05:41
rhpot1991got a link?05:41
rhpot1991I wasn't really looking for one, but woot's price caught my eye05:42
foxbuntuuh hold on05:42
rhpot1991skype isn't completely free apparently05:42
foxbuntuhttp://tools.netgear.com/skype/05:42
bronsonrhpot1991: heck no.  It's very closed.05:42
rhpot1991well price wise either05:43
foxbunturhpot1991, no if you want to place calls to landlines/cell phones you have to pay05:43
rhpot1991gotta pay to make outgoing05:43
bronsonhuh??  I use skype for free.05:43
rhpot1991well outgoing to landlines/cell05:43
bronsonOh, right.05:43
rhpot1991incoming is free, and to other skype is free05:43
rhpot1991anything completely free out there thats worth while?05:43
foxbuntuits 24.99/yr for unlimited in the US05:43
bronsonYa, there isn't much that terminates to the phone system for cheap.05:43
rhpot1991foxbuntu that phone is pretty cool05:43
bronsonThe telcos make sure of that.05:44
rhpot1991not sure its $120 worth of cool though05:44
foxbunturhpot1991, yeah, I am actually considering getting one soon05:44
foxbuntuyou can get them cheaper elsewhere05:44
bronsonI think I saw one that terminates to 1-800 numbers for free; I can look if you want.05:44
rhpot1991nah no need05:44
rhpot1991I just use a cell phone currently05:44
rhpot1991no land line at all05:44
bronsonYa, me too.05:44
rhpot1991skype phone sitting here might not be such a bad idea though05:45
bronsonSure is nice...05:45
bronsonUntil you have an earthquake like tonight and the lines are all jammed.05:45
bronsonDoesn't take much to knock cell service out apparently.05:45
rhpot1991where was there an earthquake?05:45
bronsonErm...  Hayward I think?  San Jose?05:45
bronsonWe felt it in SF.05:45
rhpot1991hmmm, I was unaware of that05:45
rhpot1991turned my tv off after house was over05:46
bronsonNot big, like 5.6.05:46
rhpot1991I see it for $8805:46
rhpot1991from some random shop on google products05:46
foxbuntuyea05:46
rhpot1991newegg price isn't too bad05:47
rhpot1991$50 MR now05:47
foxbuntuyup05:47
rhpot1991I'm tempted to nabb that one off of woot to mess with though05:47
rhpot1991for $1205:47
rhpot1991one of these days I am going to resist breaking things at 1:3005:52
foxbunturhpot1991, naw...that would remove the fun05:55
rhpot1991I've been messing with hd speeds05:55
BHSPitMonkeyrhpot1991, you can spend that much on one from the store05:55
rhpot1991and for no rhyme or reason I have some slow ones under different scenereos05:56
rhpot1991BHSPitMonkey which stores?05:57
rhpot1991one box here, runs ~40MBS until I plug a 2nd drive in, then they both run 2005:57
rhpot1991but that 2nd drive runs ~40 in another box05:57
BHSPitMonkeyrhpot1991, try fry's?05:57
rhpot1991shouldn't be power, cause I unhooked the cd roms05:57
rhpot1991I don't have a fry's around me05:58
rhpot1991just checked CC and BB05:58
rhpot1991neither have anything (online at least)05:58
BHSPitMonkeythey had them at the Radio Shack warehouse place near where I live05:58
BHSPitMonkeythough I don't know exactly how one finds those places05:58
BHSPitMonkeythey're awesome though05:58
BHSPitMonkeygot a programmable (STAMP) robot for $1505:59
BHSPitMonkeywith light sensors and speakers and what not05:59
rhpot1991nice06:01
solarbabyI believe TV out on my Dell is hopeless at this point..  blah06:10
solarbabypisses me off when Howtos work for other people and not me.. hehe06:12
rhpot1991different version of the driver?06:12
rhpot1991you had some ATI mobile or something right?06:13
* rhpot1991 is ready to kill someone06:14
solarbabyYeah.. Dell Latitude C61006:14
rhpot1991we can take this out on dell together06:14
* rhpot1991 is fighting with a dell box now06:14
solarbabyhehehe06:14
rhpot1991thing wont run IDE drives at full speed if they are on the same cable06:15
solarbabythis laptop was great with GBPVR..  but a real insane bitch with linux06:15
solarbabyoh yeah I remember you having that problem..06:15
solarbabyyuck06:15
rhpot1991welcome to ati linux drivers06:15
rhpot1991my ati card is sitting in a drawer now06:16
rhpot1991I got fed up with it and just replaced it06:16
solarbabymine is part of the laptop..  im stuck with it06:16
solarbabyIm almost ready to switch distros to see if that helps06:16
rhpot1991I have a strange occurance where my SATA1 port in anothe box wont top 40MBS, but the SATA2 is constantly at 60MBS, even if I swap drives/cables/etc06:16
solarbabyit'd be a damn shame though UbuntuMyth is sweet..  but I must have video out06:16
rhpot1991you try the ubuntu forums for help yet?06:17
solarbabyyeah.. their howtos helped others but its not helping me06:17
rhpot1991I'd try posting some in there06:17
rhpot1991were the howtos for gutsy?06:18
rhpot1991or feisty06:18
solarbabyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-219336.html06:19
rhpot1991thats a bit old06:20
solarbabytrue..06:20
rhpot1991http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=13806:20
rhpot1991I'd go post a new one there06:20
bronsonrhpot1991: How do you use MCC to generate the mappings?06:24
bronsonI see a checkbox that says Generate Dynamic Mappings but nothing seems to happen if I check it...?06:25
rhpot1991you do that then click apply06:26
rhpot1991and it will overwrite your file06:26
rhpot1991but only if it has permissions to06:26
rhpot1991chmod your lircrc if its not doing anything06:26
bronsonoverwrite it...  with what?06:26
rhpot1991a new one that it makes up06:26
rhpot1991apparently06:26
bronsono_O06:26
rhpot1991I'm still going with my configuration that I made before MCC existed06:27
rhpot1991so I'm not all that familiar with it06:27
bronsonOwell, I'm going to have to mess with it another night.  Outa time.06:28
bronsonrhpot1991: thanks for your help.06:28
rhpot1991sure thing06:28
rhpot1991maybe some day I'll get the rest of the buttons working when I am done breaking things06:28
bronsonMyth sez: Failed to run 'cdrecord --scanbus'06:28
bronsonHm, wonder if I should install cdrecord...06:29
bronsonInteresting that mythbuntu doesn't do that automatically.06:29
BHSPitMonkeyso...  is anyone here familiar with linuxmce?  I'm trying to see how much functionality is missing, going from it to mythbuntu.06:42
BHSPitMonkeyI know you lose the home automation stuff, but I'm not concerned with any of that...06:42
solarbabyI get excited everytime I turn my laptop off and on and the tv screen flickers.. too bad thats all I ever get06:45
solarbabyheh06:45
BHSPitMonkeyis mythbuntu's functionality identical to mythtv's?  Or is there anything else of note?06:47
bronsonPossible solution to my remote issues: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Remote_controllers06:47
bronsonSeems to work pretty well!  Not laggy like lirc, and much better autorepeat.06:48
bronsonI'll have to see if I can configure all the buttons.06:48
BHSPitMonkeyAnybody?  :(06:48
bronsonBHSPitMonkey: afaik, it's mostly MythTV.06:48
solarbabyMythBuntu is MythTV, just really easty to install06:49
bronsonIt's just very highly integrated, easy to set up and use.06:49
BHSPitMonkeyis it on top of gnome or kde?  or neither?06:49
bronsonBHSPitMonkey: neither, though Myth uses Qt.06:49
BHSPitMonkeyah.06:49
bronsonActually, I think it's on Xubuntu, but the XFCE stuff will get less and less over time...?06:49
bronsonHazy memory.  :)06:49
bronsonTime for bed, goodnight all.06:50
solarbabyGnight06:50
=== bronson is now known as bronson|Zzzz
BHSPitMonkeyhow likely is it that mythbuntu will detect my tvout without persuasion?06:50
solarbabynot likely in my opinion06:50
solarbabythen again I've been struggling all day long to make my TV out06:50
solarbabywork06:50
solarbabyand im feeling pissy06:50
BHSPitMonkeythat would explain the dissenting opinion06:51
solarbabyyeah..  but then again I've got an older Dell Latitiude laptop06:51
solarbabysome hardware is very nicely supported06:51
solarbabythe goal is that Mythbuntu should only take about 30 min to install, i'd give it a shot06:52
solarbabyI give up07:03
solarbabyI guess its simply not worth it07:04
JThundleyanyone else have the problem where you can't limit ktorrent's upload rate?07:08
mryniti have comcast digital cable and have to use a cable box. to change channels i have to use a remote that changes the channel thru the box. can mythtv change channels with out having to use the remote?11:54
directhex|workdepends on the box. typically, you'd use an "ir blaster", which is a serial or usb-connected "remote emulator"11:59
directhex|worki.e. it sends the remote control codes to change channel via an IR LED11:59
mrynithow hard is that to get working?  can i view tv thru the mythtv interface becuase wouldnt the ir blaster  block normal use of the remote. i would image that the blaster would physicaly ovet the ir reciever12:29
directhex|workmrynit, mythtv is a pvr - you'd use myth as your pvr, and myth would use your cable box in the background12:31
directhex|worki've never configured an ir blaster personally, but i know that's the procesure12:32
mrynitok that answers my question12:39
mrynitthanks12:39
directhex|workthere we go, ladies! http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1027312:40
frink_hey folks14:19
frink_wassuuurrp!?14:19
replmanHi! Just a short question: Does the Terratec Cinergy 1200 DVB-S work fine with mythtv?14:30
pdragonknown working hardware is listed here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Hardware14:32
pdragonotherwise you'd have to ask on the mailing list or maybe the forums if no one here has used it14:33
replmanpdragon: Thank you. The card is not listed there :-(. But on the ubuntu hardware-db it's listed as working with linux: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hardwaredatenbank/Ausgabeger%C3%A4te#TV-Karten14:33
pdragoni've never used it so i can't help anymore. the mailing list or forums would be your next best bet14:35
replmanpdragon: ok, i will consult the forum. Thank you for your help!14:36
directhex|workcheck the linuxtv dvb wiki14:44
directhex|workmythtv works with linux hardware, not mythtv hardware14:44
replmanis it possible to use a P2, 450MHz to record dvb-s? As i understood recording is just writing the received mpeg-stream...15:00
directhex|workyes, as long as you have the disk space and i/o bandwidth15:00
directhex|workwhich shouldn't be a problem15:00
replmanok, thanks15:01
frink_i need food15:28
directhex|workblue frink_ needs food badly15:30
frink_yah yah yah15:36
frink_i have food15:36
bronson|ZzzzWOW.  To solve my remote issues, I tried getting rid of lirc and having the kernel generate the events directly.16:30
bronson|ZzzzIt's SOOOOO much better!16:30
bronson|ZzzzNo delay at all, no stutter, predictable autorepeat.16:31
bronson|ZzzzGreat, freenode won't let me change my nick back...  brb.16:32
therethinkerGahh -- for something to run hourly, I just need to stick in in /etc/cron.hourly, right?19:34
rhpot1991I've always used crontab -e then just fit the right numbers in the begining there19:35
therethinkerhmm19:37
Davieytherethinker: yes19:37
Davieytherethinker: that is run - will run every hour.. just stick a shell script or symlink in there19:37
therethinkerthat's exactly what I did... it doesn't work19:37
Davieyyeah it does19:37
therethinkeroh, damn. The symlink didn't work >_>19:38
Davieytherethinker: to test it run:19:39
therethinkerArgh -- whenever I do it, I get a toomany levels error... its only 119:39
Daviey$ cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly19:39
Daviey(as root)19:39
therethinkerhmm19:40
Davieytherethinker: give me shell access and i'll sort your life out :)19:41
therethinkerYay, got it19:42
therethinkerI was doing ln -s, which apparently it doesn't like19:42
Davieyyes it does19:42
therethinkerheh -- OKAY!19:42
therethinkerI know -- its odd... I must have done something else wrong...19:42
therethinkerbut I dropped the -s, and ti wroked19:43
therethinkers/it worked19:43
Davieythats a hard link :/19:43
therethinkerI know... but it works ;P19:43
therethinkerHeh... I know its not perfect19:43
Davieywhen ir breaks.. let me know :)19:43
therethinkerHeh, okay :p19:43
Davieyir=ir19:43
Davieyurh it19:44
therethinkerheh :P19:46
solarbabyOk the Hauppage 350 TV should be way easier to get working then it currently is20:50
superm1solarbaby, you need to get that working?20:50
solarbabyTV out I should probably say20:50
superm1i have a patch for it that i need someone to test!20:50
solarbabysuperm1: I've been reading howtos for hours20:51
solarbabysuperm1: yes I need to get it working20:51
superm1solarbaby, it should all be contained in that thread on the forums20:51
superm1including my patch20:51
superm1if it works i'm going to do an SRU with it20:51
solarbabysuperm1: all I need to do is find your post20:51
superm1http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3534555&postcount=30 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3673654&postcount=3820:53
solarbabyThanks.. you found it way faster then me I was still looking20:54
superm1solarbaby, if it works, then please post to that thread that you got it working20:54
solarbabyright on.. will do20:55
solarbabysuperm1: this address no longer works Download the xorg video driver (thanks superm1)20:58
solarbabyi386 version: wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/superm1/ubu...~ppa3_i386.deb20:58
superm1solarbaby, that's not something to directly wget20:59
superm1copy the url20:59
superm1and paste it20:59
superm1http://ppa.launchpad.net/superm1/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xserver-xorg-video-ivtvdev/xserver-xorg-video-ivtv_1.0.0~svn4049-3~ppa3_i386.deb21:00
solarbabyhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/superm1/ubu...~ppa3_i386.deb21:00
superm1is the whole url21:00
superm1the forums wrapped it21:00
solarbabybummer21:01
solarbabysuperm1 can you download from that url you posted here? I cant21:03
superm1yes i can21:03
superm1i just tried and it opens in firefox21:04
superm1you might need to put it in quotes if you are using wget21:04
tgm4883_remotewhats a generic mpeg2 file extension look like?21:21
tgm4883_remoteis it .mpeg21:21
tgm4883_remoteor .mpeg221:21
tgm4883_remoteor something else21:21
solarbabysuperm1: regretably I cannot confirm that it works21:31
superm1tgm4883_remote, .mpg21:31
superm1solarbaby, which part doesn't work21:31
superm1are things on X or not?21:31
superm1or is just the tv out not working21:31
solarbabysuperm1: im not that smart..  whole whole package doesn't = sucess21:31
solarbabyno tv21:32
superm1solarbaby, well you modified your xorg.conf and things aren't coming up with myth's application on the tv?21:32
superm1or which?21:32
solarbabyand also I get an error in mythtv when I try to play videos when I have th 350 flagged in MythTV21:32
solarbabyI can't make either the desktop or mythtv show up through my 350 TV out21:32
superm1you need the desktop on the 350 out before mythtv can21:33
solarbabyI modified my xorg21:33
superm1did you reboot?21:33
solarbabyyes21:33
superm1can you check out your /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:33
solarbabyalright21:34
solarbabysuperm1: I dont know what the problem is21:37
superm1well post your log21:37
superm1on pastebin21:37
solarbabyok21:37
superm1and we can see21:37
solarbabyhttp://pastebin.com/m4ce1a75721:41
superm1solarbaby, that's the failsafe one21:46
superm1can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old?21:46
solarbabysuperm1: http://pastebin.com/m6f07832121:55
superm1solarbaby, that's also a failsafe one hm21:57
superm1lets see the xorg.conf21:57
MythbuntuGuest80I must be going crazy ... can someone point me towards how to use the VNC service from the MCC?21:57
superm1yeah, if you have it installed, pick reconfigure21:58
superm1and put in your password21:58
superm1and then hit apply21:58
MythbuntuGuest80ok.  and how do I access it from another machine?21:59
superm1MythbuntuGuest80, access VNC?21:59
superm1or MCC?21:59
MythbuntuGuest80vnc21:59
superm1well you have to restart X21:59
MythbuntuGuest80(that's probably a really lame question, sorry)21:59
superm1there is no dialog telling you that you do21:59
superm1but you do21:59
solarbabysuperm1: http://pastebin.com/m11cb47b922:01
superm1solarbaby, is that PCI ID correct?22:01
solarbabyYeah22:01
solarbabyOH22:01
solarbabyI dunno for sure22:02
MythbuntuGuest80superm1 - I'm pretty sure I had that working.  Now I'm on a separate machine and want to access VNC (this is where I'm probably being really stuipd ... but I've no idea how to access it)22:02
solarbabyI can only assume I did that right22:02
superm1solarbaby, well you need ot make sure of that22:02
superm1lspci can tell you the pci id22:02
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest80, I assume you want to VNC control the first machine?22:02
superm1vncviewer MACHINEIP22:02
MythbuntuGuest80yes22:02
foxbuntu^^22:02
foxbuntuis the second machine a Ubuntu machine as well?22:02
solarbabysuperm1: 05:04.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)22:03
MythbuntuGuest80yes, it is.  VNCviewer isn't a recognized command.22:03
MythbuntuGuest80(actually, I have three ubuntu machines - one KDE, two xfce's ... the two x's are backends)22:04
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest80, try "sudo apt-get install vncviewer"22:04
superm1solarbaby, hmm22:04
superm1i'm wondering about why that log didn't say anything sensible22:04
MythbuntuGuest80ok, so that isn't in add/remove?22:04
superm1solarbaby, perhaps can you try to 'startx' and see if it tells you about a syntax error22:04
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest80, you can look there as well22:04
superm1MythbuntuGuest80, you can also start it via tsclient22:05
superm1typically22:05
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest80, I just usally do everything via apt-get22:05
superm1foxbuntu, i try to tell people to stay away from the command line as much as possible22:06
superm1so i understnad MythbuntuGuest80's desire to use add/remove22:06
foxbuntusuperm1, yeah..I need to get more in that habit22:06
superm1that's what the big reason for mcc in the first place is22:07
MythbuntuGuest80I have no problem with command line ... but I just was surprised I could find apt-get but it wasn't in add/remove.22:07
MythbuntuGuest80(especially for something so simple)22:07
MythbuntuGuest80whoa ... that's disturbing :)  I expected a separate x session ... not the live one on my monitor.22:10
MythbuntuGuest80I appreciate it guys!22:10
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest80, np22:11
superm1MythbuntuGuest80, well there are two schools of thought on it, this way you can administer a live session22:12
superm1you can set it up the other way too22:12
superm1but there isn't anything automated for it right now22:13
MythbuntuGuest02sorry ... I missed one other question.  What's the login ID which gets used for the VNC service?22:40
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest02, there is no login id23:44
foxbuntuonly a password23:44

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