[00:00] <adrian> Excuse me accident: How do I find it I can't see it in the channel list
[00:00] <CarlFK> shenjing: but not the "printer name" list
[00:00] <chris85> Can anyone help me create a new partition on my hard drive? (Running Gutsy)
[00:00] <bulmer> kartika78-> you can ping the gateway?
[00:00] <darren> I'm trying to get nzb working in ubuntu. When I try and connect over an SSL connection I get the error "SSLFilter: unable to load unix openssl" does anyone know how I might fix this?
[00:00] <shenjing> open up
[00:00] <jburd> twoshadetod: What do you wish to do with the IMG file?
[00:00] <bulmer> kartika78-> you can ping the gateway 192.168.1.254 ?
[00:00] <j85wilson> adrian: fair enough, Caps lock got stuck, eh?  no worries.
[00:00] <shenjing> CarlFK: open admin -> printing
[00:00] <kartika78> bulmer-> no...
[00:00] <jburd> twoshadetod: If you're trying to burn it to a disc, you can easily use a burner  application like k3b.
[00:00] <shenjing> CarlFK: do you see your printer there?
[00:00] <CarlFK> shenjing: yes
[00:00] <astro76> !fsck | phillywhitetrash
[00:01] <ubotu> phillywhitetrash: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[00:01] <shenjing> CarlFK: right click and use default printer
[00:01] <twoshadetod> jburd, yeah but it doens't have an option to burn .img only .iso i renamed it and am trying it that way
[00:01] <bulmer> kartika78-> so i dont think you're using of static ip address is working, why not work with dhcp specially you're machine is a client?
[00:01] <kitche> jburd: k3b doesn't support .img file types
[00:01] <shenjing> CarlFK: then try printing again
[00:01] <astro76> phillywhitetrash, you can also sudo touch /forcefsck, then reboot anyway you choose
[00:01] <jburd> In that case you use img2iso.  twoshadetod:  Renaming doesn't solve your problem.
[00:01] <j85wilson> Anyone other than me able to give Magdin some help with a really really odd sound problem?
[00:02] <phillywhitetrash> astro76: i tryed fsck but it warned me about checking mounted filesysyens
[00:02] <j85wilson> I tried but failed to help him.
[00:02] <shenjing> CarlFK: what program are you printing from?
[00:02] <CarlFK> shenjing: in gimp print dialog, what do I set "Printer Name" to?
[00:02] <j85wilson> check the backlog for details.
[00:02] <twoshadetod> jburd, is that in repos or does it have to be compiled?
[00:02] <CarlFK> shenjing: gimp
 so is there a dedicated linux mce channel?
[00:02] <Fryguy--> I need to convert my evms-created raid5 array to something else since evms doesn't work correctly with gutsy.  Can anyone point me to some resources on how to do this?
[00:02] <kartika78> bulmer-> my static ip works well on all machines i have at home and it worked well also on my notebook the problem is this damn update
[00:02] <j85wilson> adrian: I'm googling
[00:02] <astro76> phillywhitetrash, as ubotu mentioned, sudo shutdown -F -r will force an fsck during boot up, before the filesystems are mounted
[00:03] <jburd> twoshadetod: It's not in the repository.
[00:03] <junkbox> i install ubuntu desktop.  I am having problems with totem and vlc. when i try to play a video file i heard the sound fine, but the picture is just a bunch of vertical lines.  any one have any suggestions for resolving this issue?
[00:03] <astro76> twoshadetod, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[00:03] <twoshadetod> jburd, ahh looks like gnome toaster can do that out of the box
[00:03] <shenjing> CarlFK: the print dialog should be a dropdown list right?
[00:03] <bulmer> kartika78-> if you cant even ping the most immediate gateway, its either you have a bad cable or bad connection to the gateway
[00:03] <jburd> twoshadetod:  Good for you.  :-)
[00:03] <bluefox83> junkbox, gutsy of feisty?
[00:03] <bluefox83> *or
[00:03] <phillywhitetrash> ok, got the -F -r , touch /forcefsck do?
[00:04] <twoshadetod> jburd, not that im opposed to learning and reading manuals, but at this point i kinda just wanna watch the friggin movie lol
[00:04] <jburd> twoshadetod: Just remember to use checkinstall whenever you install something from source.
[00:04] <CarlFK> shenjing: I think I found what I need: "Printer Queue" lets me pick the new printer
[00:04] <j85wilson> adrian: I don't find any from google, but you might have better luck than me.  They do have support forums (which are slower than irc, of course) at http://forum.linuxmce.org/
[00:04] <astro76> phillywhitetrash, with shutdown -F you don't have to touch /forcefsck, it does it
[00:04] <shenjing> CarlFK: sry bout that
[00:04] <shenjing> CarlFK: new idea
[00:04] <geirha> twoshadetod: mplayer -dvd-device the-image.img dvd://
[00:04] <jburd> twoshadetod: You don't need to burn it to a disc to watch a movie on it.   Convert it to an ISO file and then mount the ISO file as a volume.  :-)
[00:04] <CarlFK> shenjing: yeah, it's working now
[00:04] <kartika78> bulmer-> is it possible that doesn't exist a command to analyze my connection and find the bug
[00:04] <shenjing> CarlFK: ok
[00:04] <shenjing> CarlFK: cool
[00:04] <CarlFK> shenjing: thanks
[00:04] <jburd> Or have mplayer use it like geirha said.
[00:04] <j85wilson> ok, well, I gots to go wake the wife up from her nap and get dinner going.  bye bye folks!
[00:05] <twoshadetod> jburd, yeah but i want to watch it on my dvd player/tv
[00:05] <jburd> Ah.
[00:05] <shenjing> CarlFK: your welcome
[00:05] <adrian> I will keep trying I am realy excited by what I am seeng in ubuntu but if I don't get a result soon I might have to revert back to windows xp, wish me luck
[00:05] <phillywhitetrash> thanks guys
[00:05] <desertc> Is there an Arabic channel for ubuntu?
[00:06] <astro76> !arabic | desertc
[00:06] <ubotu> desertc: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[00:06] <desertc> astro76: No one is in that room
[00:06] <jcsredwards> how do i burn movies on cd that are divx and avi format?
[00:06] <bulmer> kartika78-> ping is the easiest tool to use for testing connectivity...anyhow why are you reluctant to use dhcp ? your AP is providing it
[00:06] <phillywhitetrash> does the -F mean force or filesys check?
[00:07] <phillywhitetrash> fsck
[00:07]  * bluefox83 has slept with 2 out of the 8 people he's met online...
[00:07] <astro76> desertc, there were 3 before I joined :O
[00:07] <juan> if ive added users to my groups why wont konsoles im using let me access files that groups can?
[00:07] <bluefox83> +from online
[00:07] <junkbox> not sure, I'm just start with linux
[00:07] <desertc> astro76: They just joined!
[00:07] <astro76> desertc, haha
[00:07] <PriceChild> !offtopic | bluefox83
[00:07] <ubotu> bluefox83: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:07] <Shpook> Hello everyone. More questions. I'm laying down the money for a PVR(MythTV of course) but in everyone's opinion, should i use my existing AMD Athlon 3200, or go with a Core2Duo?
[00:07] <bulmer> juan-> whats the permission of the directory?
[00:07] <bluefox83> i totally said that in the wrong channel...soooorry >.>
[00:07] <kartika78> bulmer->i like to have my ips well identified on my network
[00:07] <kylequamme> can anyone tell me how i would change a permission of rwx to rws?
[00:07] <desertc> astro76: Everyone thought I typo'd
[00:07] <kitche> juan: the group might not have read or write permissions to the files depending on what your trying to do
[00:07] <toplok> Hi, I am using Rhythmbox in Ubuntu 7.10 and I try to open a pls file, but Rhythmbox says a pluggin is missing. This worked fine with ubuntu 7.04. Help! :-)
[00:08] <bulmer> kartika78-> just for testing? you would not even try it?
[00:08] <juan> drwxrwx---  Not-Juan users                                  wkw8puen.default
[00:08] <j85wilson> juan, you may have to log out and back in.
[00:09] <kylequamme> anyone know how i would change owner permissions to rws instead of rwx? i am working with exim
[00:09] <kylequamme> and i am having problems with the spool directory
[00:09] <juan> erm is it ok to have a folder but no read on the folders above it?
[00:09] <j85wilson> kylequamme: chmod o+t ?
[00:09] <j85wilson> or something
[00:09] <chris85> Hello, is it possible to create a new partition after ubuntu is already installed?
[00:10] <Yarcanox> is there a good video editing program out there?
[00:10] <j85wilson> perhaps chmod o+s
[00:10] <kkathman> chris85,  yes of course
[00:10] <Yarcanox> or at least any video editing program for linux
[00:10] <Yarcanox> I need one
[00:10] <j85wilson> bye bye again
[00:10] <kylequamme> ty
[00:10] <kkathman> chris85, check out gparted
[00:10] <logon> can someone help me install wine so I can usre the apps/drivers on my windows partition?
[00:10] <Ademan> chris85: through gparted yes, but i'm fairly certain you can't do it while you're using any of the partitions you'd modify, and even if you could, it's a bad idea, use the GParted liveCD
[00:11] <junkbox> running gutsy
[00:11] <juan> erm is it ok to have a folder but no read on the folders above it?
[00:11] <Ward1983> logon, sudo apt-get install wine
[00:11] <Ward1983> lol
[00:11] <chris85> kkathwan and others: I am running Gutsy only.  I have to put Windows on.  Gparted is the way to go?  There is lots of help out there for going from windows to Ubuntu.
[00:11] <kylequamme> chmod o+s didn't work
[00:11] <bulmer> juan i dont think it would work
[00:11] <Creed> Is there a way to attach to an already running gnome session using XDMCP?
[00:11] <logon> ward: did that want to configure it to use the apps/drivers on the c:\ drive
[00:12] <Ward1983> !tab | logon
[00:12] <ubotu> logon: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:12] <kylequamme> chris85: it is difficult to install windows after linux but not impossible
[00:12] <Ademan> chris85: putting windows on your computer AFTER ubuntu is a recipie for a pain in the ass because windows overwrites GRUB, you'd have to restore it via a liveCD in order to continue using both windows and Ubuntu
[00:12] <Ademan> chris85: i've done it before, but needless to say, it sucked
[00:12] <Fryguy--> is it possible to downgrade from gutsy to feisty?
[00:12] <Ward1983> logon, i don't know anything about that, sorry, don't know if its possible
[00:12] <c0mp13371331337_> Can anyone tell me how to downgrade the radeon driver?  I'm using Gutsy and I'd like to use the radeon driver from feisty.
[00:12] <logon> <--- have windows already installed on another partition
[00:12] <logon> <--- have windows already installed on another partition
[00:13] <toplok> someone using Rhythmbox for online radios ? :)
[00:13] <chris85> kylequamme and Ademan: so would it be easier to start over with windows, then follow the instructions when installing Ubuntu for dual boot?
[00:13] <Ward1983> toplok, xmms works great here for onlien radio
[00:13] <Ademan> toplok: i'm using rhythmbox, but not for radio, but i do the sharing thing
[00:13] <logon> can someone help me install wine so I can usre the apps/drivers on my windows partition that is alread installed?
[00:13] <kylequamme> toplok: open up the pls file with a text editor and manually extract the html location
[00:13] <kylequamme> toplok: that is what i do
[00:14] <jburd> logon: Open a terminal and type sudo aptitude install wine
[00:14] <Ademan> chris85: pretty much, if you installed windows first and left room for an ubuntu partition, you should be able to just install ubuntu and it will detect the existing windows partition and let you choose between the two at boot time
[00:14] <logon> jburd: please read my post,... done!
[00:14] <Ward1983> jburd, he wants to confige wine to use all the installed progs on his windows partition
[00:14] <toplok> kylequamme, thats what I have done, but it says it requires a plugin. This worked fine on 7.04
[00:14] <Ward1983> configure i mean
[00:14] <logon> ward: thanks thats it exactly
[00:14] <chris85> Ademan: i'm having a hard time putting windows on.  Grub won't run the install disk.  (Well, that is what I can gather from googling it all night.)
[00:15] <kylequamme> toplok: it requires a plugin to open any stream?
[00:15] <Ademan> chris85: well you should be running the install disk BEFORE it gets to GRUB
[00:15] <jburd> Ward1983: Ah, well that's not going to be possible unless he can find out a way to import the registry on that partition :-)
[00:15] <Ademan> chris85: should be a bios setting
[00:15] <chris85> Ademan: I enter bios and hit "Run from disk drive" and grub starts up
[00:15] <logon> jburd: Isnt that supported by wine?
[00:15] <Ademan> chris85: every bios is different, but at least for me, when i boot up i can hit f2 and choose to boot from the cd drive
[00:15] <Ward1983> jburd, that's what i thought
[00:16] <Ademan> chris85: hrm, that sounds right...
[00:16] <c0mp13371331337_> Anyone know how to downgrade the radeon driver?
[00:16] <Ademan> chris85: you sure you're selecting the correct drive? (like maybe by disk drive it means your hard drive rather than your CD or DVD drive?)
[00:16] <toplok> kylequamme, it opens ogg, but no http://80.84.114.2:8010
[00:16] <logon> OK: how do I make my ubuntu wine, as close to the windows system that is on my machine as possable???
[00:16] <jburd> logon: It isn't impossible as such but it's largely useless.  You don't want a corrupt Windows registry.
[00:16] <chris85> Ademan: could be.  I'll give it another try.  But grub isn't the defualt now for any OS?
[00:16] <geirha> logon: with winecfg you could probably change c: to be your windows' c: instead of ~/.wine/drive_c. though not all windows programs runs well with wine
[00:17] <Ademan> chris85: after you install windows you'll lose grub and you'll have to reinstall it via the liveCD (or just reinstall ubuntu but i figure you won't want to do that)
[00:17] <Ward1983> logon, install all apps again in wine
[00:17] <kylequamme> toplok: that is an mp3 issue
[00:17] <geirha> logon: it's probably easier to just make a virtual machine running windows, or possibly reactos
[00:17] <elis> alguna venezolana
[00:18] <Ademan> chris85: i'd definitely google reinstalling grub beforehand, it's not terribly easy (it's not hard once you know how, but the first time is pretty hard)
[00:18] <junkbox> any one have any tips fof getting the videos to play ?
[00:18] <kylequamme> toplok: u need to download an mp3 decoder plugin, because i'm assuming you are listening to an mp3 stream
[00:18] <JediMaster> hmmmm, this laptop appears to go into sleep mode every time anacron runs (at least it happens 2 seconds after it's logged in the syslog every time), and it happens even when typing
[00:18] <logon> ward: but I want to have visability on both ports
[00:18] <chris85> Ademan: what I want to do is leave my computer like it is with the brand new Gutsy, but LabView (National instruments software) only works in windows, osx and rpm based linux, so....
[00:18] <toplok> kylequamme, where to get it from ? this worked ok in 7.04 :(
[00:18] <Ademan> toplok: by the way, that station plays fine for me in rhythmbox
[00:18] <Nexus> Any ubuntu masters in here?
[00:18] <Ademan> !ask | Nexus
[00:18] <kylequamme> chris85: you can convert rpms to debs
[00:18] <ubotu> Nexus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:18] <c0mp13371331337_> No one knows how to downgrade the radeon driver version to the one from Feisty?
[00:19] <toplok> Ademan, are you using 7.10 ?
[00:19] <Ademan> toplok: yep
[00:19] <jrib> c0mp13371331337_: why?
[00:19] <Nexus> I can't get my dial up connection to work
[00:19] <chris85> i tried for days, but I'm willing to try again if you have suggestions
[00:19] <Ademan> !alien
[00:19] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[00:19] <kylequamme> toplok: use ubuntuguide to show you how to enable all of the extra repositories, then follow their instructions to install mp3 support
[00:19] <jrib> Nexus: have you taken a look at the wiki page?
[00:19] <Nexus> no i haven't
[00:20] <Ademan> toplok: do you have all of the gstreamer packages installed?
[00:20] <chris85> yeah, it didn't care for that at all
[00:20] <c0mp13371331337_> jrib: Because dual monitors with xrandr is terrible, and I'd like to go back to having MergedFB support, which was much more solid.
[00:20] <jrib> !dialup > Nexus (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:20] <kylequamme> chris85: do they offer a source version?
[00:20] <chris85> kylequamme: I don't think so.  They are pretty protective and pretty unhelpful
[00:20] <kylequamme> ic
[00:21] <Ademan> kylequamme: http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/2541
[00:21] <jburd> chris85: Have you tried using alien?
[00:21] <jrib> c0mp13371331337_: you could try rebuilding the package I suppose, but your first course of action should be checking for bugs on bugs.ubuntu.com and filing them if they do not exist fet
[00:21] <junkbox> i install ubuntu desktop.  I am having problems with totem and vlc. when i try to play a video file i heard the sound fine, but the picture is just a bunch of vertical lines.  any one have any suggestions for resolving this issue?
[00:21] <jrib> !source > c0mp13371331337_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:21] <logon> ok, how do I configure wine to use my windows c: "/media/windows" instead of ~/...???
[00:21] <JediMaster> can anyone help out with a power management problem, this is really doing my head in =(
[00:22] <toplok> working!!! :)) thanks so much, it was the missing g... codecs
[00:22] <jrib> JediMaster: best to just ask the channel your next question and see if anyone knows the answer
[00:22] <Fryguy--> is it possible to downgrade from gutsy to feisty?
[00:22] <jrib> Fryguy--: no, not supported
[00:22]  * toplok happy listening music meanwhile working with Ubuntu...
[00:23] <logon> ok, how do I configure wine to use my windows c: "/media/windows" instead of ~/...???
[00:23] <chris85> Ademan: what were you trying to say with that link?
[00:23] <Yarcanox> hi. I found a package source: deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/i686/ ./
[00:23] <PriceChild> logon, really not reccomended
[00:23] <Yarcanox> now I tried to type this command into a shell, but it says "command unknown: deb"
[00:23] <Ademan> chris85: i just thought that was the site for the software, and maybe it would have information that would help kylequamme
[00:23] <Yarcanox> how do I install this program now?
[00:23] <JediMaster> jrib: already have asked it several times, and this isntall of ubuntu is completely unusable like this =(... I'll ask again..
[00:23] <b1n42y> has anyone installed steam.. if so after steam update do the windows close themselves, say they are finished or is it a matter of closing the terminal etc
[00:23] <PurpZeY> logon: I believe the idea is to install the program into wine
[00:24] <logon> ok, how do I configure wine to use my windows c: "/media/windows" instead of ~/...??? (I know its not recommended)
[00:24] <Ademan> Yarcanox: what software?
[00:24] <chris85> jburd: I tried, but I'm a newbie by far and had a lot of trouble
[00:24] <JediMaster> hey guys, got a weird one, just setting up gutsy on a friend's laptop, and with all the powersaving timeouts disabled in the BIOS it appears to send the laptop to sleep (while plugged into mains) after 1 minute, despite keyboard and mouse activity, any ideas?
[00:24] <Yarcanox> ademan this is cinelerra
[00:24] <kylequamme> they don't give a lot of info
[00:24] <chris85> Ademan: ok, gotcha
[00:24] <Yarcanox> my distribution is feisty fawn
[00:24] <c0mp13371331337_> jrib: Wouldn't that just download the source of the current version?
[00:24] <johndbritton> anyone have a link to a netinstall guide for ubuntu server?
[00:24] <Ademan> Yarcanox: sudo apt-get install cinelerra?
[00:24] <astro76> logon, try asking in #winehq
[00:24] <jrib> !dialup | Nexus
[00:24] <ubotu> Nexus: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[00:24] <Yarcanox> no, there's no package for it
[00:24] <Yarcanox> deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/i686/ ./
[00:24] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: When does that occur?
[00:24] <logon> #winehq
[00:24] <Yarcanox> how can I do this?
[00:24] <codename> i have some questions about gutsy
[00:24] <codename> nooby ones
[00:24] <codename> everytime i press ctrl alt backspace it goes to a black screen
[00:24] <codename> is that normal?
[00:24] <codename> everytime i press ctrl alt backspace it goes to a black screen
[00:24] <Ademan> logon: should be in winecfg
[00:24] <Yarcanox> "deb" doesn't exist
[00:24] <jrib> codename: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[00:24] <chris85> I'm at a university, I have the linux install.  All .rpm
[00:24] <kylequamme> yea, probably less painless to back up your home directory, install windows then install ubuntu and restore your home directory
[00:24] <logon> join #winehq
[00:24] <Ademan> Yarcanox: OH, that goes in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[00:24] <codename> everytime i press ctrl alt backspace it goes to a black screen is that nromal? sorry
[00:24] <PurpZeY> codename: That is how to reboot your windows GUI
[00:25] <Yarcanox> ah ok thank you ademan
[00:25] <codename> oh ok
[00:25] <logon> ok, how do I goto #winehq???
[00:25] <Yarcanox> that's what I wanted to know :)
[00:25] <PurpZeY> codename: That's what it is supposed to do
[00:25] <codename> thanks!
[00:25] <astro76> logon, /join #winehq
[00:25] <codename> secondly
[00:25] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: every 1-2 minutes ALL the time, during normal use of the machine
[00:25] <codename> how do i get my cube to work with Compiz?
[00:25] <jrib> c0mp13371331337_: you would grab the feisty source from packages.ubuntu.com or instead temporarily make your deb-src repos point to feisty
[00:25] <codename> or in desktop effects
[00:25] <Ademan> Yarcanox: :-) note you'll need to either run sudo apt-get update, or hit the refresh button in synaptic for the cinelerra package to appear after you've added that to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:25] <chris85> kylequamme and Ademan, thanks.  I'll try the bios.  I might be back though.
[00:25] <boontoo> someone passworded a .sh file thats in a rar file whats a good program to crack it on ubuntu
[00:25] <Ademan> good luck chris85
[00:25] <c0mp13371331337_> jrib: Excellent, thank you my friend!
[00:26] <bobgill> I'm about to burn a backup of my /home/user folder to a DVD-RW... should I just copy the folder itself as is and burn it or make a tar ???
[00:26] <logreeval> Hi, CUPS doesn't see my network shared printer in gutsy, any ideas?
[00:26] <jrib> c0mp13371331337_: be sure you know how to repair X though, no idea if you will have issues or not
[00:26]  * PurpZeY wonders why anyone would password a script 
[00:26] <Ademan> !printer
[00:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[00:26] <Ademan> best i can do for you logreeval, :-/
[00:26] <boontoo> !cracking
[00:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cracking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:26] <Ademan> there are probably smarter people around here though
[00:26] <boontoo> !rar
[00:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[00:27] <logreeval> thanks Ademan
[00:27] <Ademan> boontoo: what file is it anyways?
[00:27] <c0mp13371331337_> jrib: Ah yes, I've spent many hours working with xorg.conf.  Her and I are quite close by now. ;-)
[00:27] <FluxD> lol
[00:27] <boontoo> Ademan: install-crossover-pro-6.0.1.sh
[00:27] <Ademan> c0mp13371331337_: she's a dirty whore, stay far away! lol
[00:27] <minus> Is it because of the 1.2 update the answer why I cant log in to Enemy Territory: Quake Wars in linux. Cause of the Linuxupdate not being release yet? Maybe the wrong place to ask it, but the more places the quicker the answer :D
[00:27] <GuHHH> i have apache2 chrooted and i want to make it run phpldapadmin, what do i need to do besides move phpldapadmin to inside the chroot?
[00:27] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: any ideas? this happens when the power is plugged into the mains
[00:28] <Ademan> GuHHH: couldn't you symlink to it?
[00:28] <jrib> boontoo: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-pro piracy talk is *not* welcomed here
[00:28] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: And you say it will come back up if you move the mouse ?
[00:28] <Ademan> boontoo: besides, WINE is essentially the same as crossover, crossover is built on wine
[00:28] <boontoo> selling programs for linux... - o -
[00:28] <codename> how do i get the cube to work on 7.10 compiz
[00:29] <Ademan> boontoo: the crossover people use part of that money to pay people to work on wine
[00:29] <boontoo> part lol
[00:29] <PurpZeY> codename: Install ccsm and turn on cube
[00:29] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: no have to use the keys
[00:29] <boontoo> and thats just saying that so people buy their progrma
[00:29] <Ademan> boontoo: well, it IS a business you know...
[00:29] <johndbritton> ive got debian installed on  a machine without a cdrom drive, how could i go about installing ubuntu on it without a cdrom
[00:29] <aguitel> anyone know how make nautilus function like konkeror ?
[00:29] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: no I take it back, mouse works =)
[00:29] <boontoo> Ademan: yeh fair enough hehe
[00:29] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: ok, but it is not turning off, it is just screen saver?
[00:29] <Ademan> aguitel: how so? the cluttered interface? or the lag?
[00:29] <Ademan> aguitel: just kidding though lol
[00:30] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: it's doing this at the console, and the laptop's hard drive and fans power down
[00:30] <jrib> codename: system -> preferences -> appearance -> effects  and install compizconfig-settings-manager if you want more control on the effects
[00:30] <Ademan> aguitel: if you want konqueror though i suggest you install konqueror...
[00:30] <codename> so sudo apt-get install ccsm>
[00:30] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: console as in, not in gnome?
[00:30] <aguitel> Ademan: ,i like to open the terminal in any directory
[00:30] <bobgill> I'm about to burn a backup of my /home/user folder to a DVD-RW... should I just copy the folder itself as is and burn it or make a tar ???
[00:30] <Ademan> aguitel: oh, there's a package for that, i have that installed one sec
[00:30] <PurpZeY> codename: I believe so, I'm not sure the name of the package, but that'd be the idea
[00:30] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: in and out of X
[00:30] <aguitel> Ademan: thanks
[00:31] <Ademan> aguitel: nautilus-open-terminal
[00:31] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Have you checked the forums for specific model of laptop? And have you installed the acpis for it?
[00:31] <aguitel> Ademan: sudo apt-get ..... ?
[00:31] <Ademan> aguitel: there are several packages that extend nautilus' functionality that way, they all start with nautilus-  so, you know, might take a look around there
[00:31] <Ademan> aguitel: yes, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[00:31] <aguitel> Ademan: thanksssss
[00:31] <Ademan> no problem
[00:32] <squeaky> evolution question - sending emails forces a word-wrap at 72 characters, so it looks terrible on a recipients computer especially widescreen.  Any way to get around that limit?
[00:32] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: not found anything about it, it's a fairly old machine, and not installed anything other than the default gutsy
[00:32] <jrib> Yarcanox: there are pitivi and kino as well
[00:32] <Macros42> hey all - I have a problem with my dvd drive since I upgraded to gutsy - the activity light stays on, can't eject it and it won't mount. The drive is fine - tested a bootable cd - but in the os I can't use it - any ideas?
[00:32] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: What is the model?
[00:32] <drew> codename, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:33] <toplok> do someone remember how to change the background color in gedit ? (my bad memory...) :)
[00:33] <drew> codename, make sure to get python-compizconfig as well
[00:33] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: I can't actually see, it's a 6+ year old Advent laptop, the model number is too worn to read
[00:34] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: What are the specs?
[00:34] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: 6+ years old, maybe gutsy not the right choice.
[00:35] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Maybe Gutsy but Xubuntu...I mean, 6 years old, gotta be very close to absolute minimum
[00:35] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: no wait, it's a advent 6417, and it's just taken 5 hours to install gutsy so would rater get it working (it doesn't do any of the install when in sleep)
[00:35] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Ok, give me a sec to see if I can't find anything out
[00:35] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: thanks very much
[00:35] <Caleb_> how do I reinstall ubuntu? i don't care about the home folder
[00:35] <OleMoudi> does evolution store mail accounts passwords on keyring or on a configuration file on plain text?
[00:35] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Advent is the make?
[00:36] <Nexus> can you ping a modem?
[00:36] <leafw> anyone with a thinkpad + ATI card? What's the situation with Gutsy?
[00:36] <PurpZeY> Caleb_: Just but the LiveCD in and reformat the whole shot.
[00:36] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: yes, it's a really crappy british make
[00:36] <PurpZeY> leafw: IMO, my personal, I wouldn't w/ ATI if your things work.
[00:36] <Caleb_> I have vista on this computer to, i don't want to lose it
[00:36] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Ok.
[00:36] <aguitel> Ademan: one question ,how i start it?
[00:36] <leafw> PurpZeY : ?
[00:37] <PurpZeY> Caleb_: Egh, I don't know much about dealing with vista...better ask someone who is better knowledged.
[00:37] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: btw, it may be a bit slow, but it's usable other than the power issue
[00:37] <PurpZeY> leafw: I have no upgraded to gutsy b/c this works and I don't get anything more from gutsy and the risk is that the install won't go right....and ATI is always touchy
[00:38] <PyroSama> How do I mount a disk with write permission on an ubuntu live disk?
[00:38] <ramza3> I know this is strange, but I actually made my font too big, I can't change the font settings, "I am using "system", is there a way to invoke that system menue
[00:38] <ramza3> I just need "Fonts" or something
[00:39] <threeseas> any progress with the internet slowdoan with gutsy?
[00:39] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: I don't know, but it seems to be you are awfully close in terms of minimum specs...I mean, I see you aren't below, but just at
[00:39] <ramza3> threeseas, I use gran paradiso
[00:39] <Yarcanox> ubuntu does not support all the resolutions my screen provides, and very low refresh rates on the higher ones
[00:39] <Yarcanox> how can I fix this?
[00:40] <Macros42> can anyone help with this drive problem - been driving me mad for 2 days now
[00:40] <Yarcanox> I read about this being a problem with NVidia cards somehow
[00:40] <Ademan> aguitel: you should be able to right click in a folder and there will be an option saying open directory in terminal
[00:40] <wirechief_> PyroSama: see my pm
[00:40] <Ademan> aguitel: also sorry, i was just on my way out, sorry it took so long, and i'm gone now
[00:40] <Ademan> aguitel: oh yeah, you might need to restart nautilus first, but don't quote me on that
[00:40] <Ademan> if you do, logging out then logging back in should be enough
[00:41] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: =) like I said, it works, but it's just this stupid power management issue, it's like the bios was set to suspend after 1 minute, but ignores teh keyboard input
[00:41] <aguitel> Ademan: thanks
[00:41] <twoshadetod> burning .img files in cmd line: sudo apt-get install udftools
[00:41] <twoshadetod> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd="fullpath of .img"
[00:41] <babo> what does everyone make of the "Ubuntu - harddrive killer for laptops" story on /. ?
[00:41] <twoshadetod> just found that, to bad the dvd wont play for me lol but on the computer end it works :)
[00:41] <Macros42> Yarcanox: I have 2 screens running in twinview - one at 1600*1200 and refresh is fine - on an nvidia card - should work fine
[00:41] <Yarcanox> Macros42 it just doesn't show up any resolutions beyond 1280x1024
[00:41] <Yarcanox> and this is far too low
[00:41] <AlbertoP> hi
[00:42] <Yarcanox> and there I can only take 50 hertz as a refresh rate or something
[00:42] <Yarcanox> (which hurts in the eyes)
[00:42] <Yarcanox> I am sure I could use higher resolutions if there would be any way to choose them
[00:42] <Yarcanox> but they are just not in the list...
[00:42] <threeseas> Yarcanox: there is a way to get it to see other resolution
[00:42] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: Hmmm...I am just thinking of what would case that....I mean, certainly seems like it would related to that....
[00:42] <jrib> !fixres > Yarcanox (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:42] <Macros42> I had this when I added that screen - you need to run the the xorg config utility and select all desirable resolutions
[00:42] <Nexus> can someone help me with configuring my dial up connection in Ubuntu
[00:42] <Yarcanox> threeseas how is it
[00:42] <threeseas> looking
[00:42] <Macros42> can't remember the name of it tho o_O
[00:42] <PurpZeY> JediMaster: My apologies I am not feeling 100% tonight so I not totally thinking clear
[00:42] <jrib> Nexus: what went wrong on the wiki page?
[00:43] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: it's weird as anacron appears to start in the syslog about 2-5 seconds before it goes to sleep, however stopping anacron doesn't do anything
[00:43] <jess^^> so ya'll know that bug about ubuntu and the HD load cycle count
[00:43] <jess^^> can someone confirm this is actually a workaround?
[00:43] <jess^^> http://j.wuffgirl.com/ubuntu_kills_discs.txt
[00:43] <threeseas> Yarcanox: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[00:44] <Nexus> ok sorry
[00:44] <JediMaster> PurpZeY: not at all, glad for the help
[00:44] <BubblegumTate> does running K apps in gnome make my 'puter run slower?
[00:44] <guymac_tucson> My #cycles is increasing by 100+ per hour, not even in battery mode...
[00:44] <threeseas> Yarcanox: you might also search googl;e for "ubuntu screen resolution"
[00:44] <Nexus> jrib can you help me?
[00:44] <guymac_tucson> is this a real problem? Drive is at 223,000; rated for 300,000...
[00:45] <jess^^> guymac_tucson: i'm not sure
[00:45] <guymac_tucson> I've tried all the suggestions, but nothing has lowered that rate. It's a Dell Inspiron FWIW.
[00:45] <jrib> Nexus: what modem do you have?
[00:45] <jess^^> guymac_tucson: i managed to get it down to 96 cycles an hour
[00:45] <jess^^> but I'm not sure what's normal
[00:45] <Nexus> i don't know how do i check in ubuntu
[00:46] <jess^^> guymac_tucson: without having a baseline comparison
[00:46] <Macros42> threeseas: I tried that and it borked x on me
[00:46] <FoSsiL> is there a program Sandboxie on linux?
[00:46] <ramza3> does anyone know if h.264 is a good codec for windows videos
[00:47] <jrib> Nexus: the wiki page tells you how to find out
[00:47] <Nexus> yes but you have to have internet to download the modem scanning program
[00:48] <jrib> Nexus: download it on this computer and transfer it
[00:48] <aguitel> anyone know how i change the icons themes in my desktop?
[00:48] <jrib> aguitel: system -> preferences -> appearance
[00:48] <mikebot> Can someone help me with the following wvince command: Unhandled MIME type: “text/plain”
[00:48] <taggig> hey can someone help me with getting my thumbbuttons on my mouse to work as in windows?
[00:48] <mikebot> *evince
[00:48] <Nexus> the computer is not here my friend called me and asked to research it but thank you i will do it tommorow
[00:48] <jrib> !mouse > taggig (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:48] <binarymutant> my resolution is too low, I tried editing xorg.conf but it stays at 640x480, its an ati rage mobility card, someone tell me whats up
[00:48] <SteveR> Hello, I had a problem with the iso /cd
[00:49] <aguitel> jrib: it change icons in others item but not in my desktop
[00:49] <jrib> aguitel: what icons exactly?
[00:50] <arajabat> Hi! My Windows disapered from my grub. How can I enable it again? I don't do nothing.
[00:50] <spanks> is there a program that has a music store that I can preview songs - similar to itunes
[00:50] <Skwerl> Is there a file for the bash profile in Ubuntu? /home/me/.bash_profile doesn't exist
[00:51] <aguitel> jrib: i have direct access for some programs and there are icons for this programs for example ,terminal firefox ,calculator, etc
[00:52] <jrib> Skwerl: create it if that is really what you want
[00:52] <Skwerl> I'm trying to set gcc to look in more locations for header files. Can't seem to find a working method for doing so
[00:52] <aguitel> jrib: also ,nautilus ,network ,konversation
[00:52] <Skwerl> I figured .bash_profile might have it
[00:53] <jrib> Skwerl: man gcc  is probably what you want to read.  Why do you need to do this?
[00:53] <evilrox> hi guyz
[00:54] <jarrod> what is a string?
[00:54] <evilrox> i need a lil help with synce...
[00:54] <Skwerl> I'm trying to use MySQL++, and it's not finding a lot of the headers I want to use without a non-trivial amount of editing
[00:54] <binarymutant> my resolution is too low how can I fix this? I tried editing xorg.conf and that didn't work, I also tried reinstalling xserver-xorg-core and that didn't work, I tried all the graphical utilities and those didn't work either
[00:54] <Skwerl> gcc* isn't finding
[00:55] <jrib> Skwerl: you are using the headers installed from a package in the repositories?
[00:55] <Skwerl> Yeah
[00:55] <jrib> aguitel: where exactly are these icons?  On you desktop?
[00:55] <spanks> is there a program that has a music store that I can preview songs - similar to itunes
[00:55] <Skwerl> Trying to, at any rate
[00:56] <aguitel> jrib: exactly
[00:56] <jrib> aguitel: you can right click and go to properties?
[00:57] <MrFeertio> i deleted my opacity settings string(compiz fusion), can i have a copy of someone elses?
[00:57] <jrib> Skwerl: this is probably a better question for ##c
[00:57] <wirechief_> binarymutant what kind of graphics card do you have ?
[00:57] <Billies> hey, um, ubuntu won't let me unmount this drive, it says only root can unmount /dev/sdb2 from /media/sdb2/ what does that mean?
[00:57] <evilrox> anyone can help me with synce? i need to sync my ipaq...
[00:57] <jrib> Billies: means you would need to unmount as root:  sudo umount /media/sdb2
[00:58] <Billies> oh, that's what I forgot, sudo
[00:58] <ztomic> Billies: that prolly means it was mounted in /etc/fstab
[00:58] <aguitel> jrib: yes but which is the root for the icons?
[00:58] <jrib> aguitel: the path you mean?
[00:58] <aguitel> jrib: yes
[00:58] <jrib> aguitel: it can be anywhere you want but most probably end up in /usr/share/icons/
[00:58] <ztomic> and sudo helps.
[00:58] <jrib> aguitel: or /usr/share/pixmaps/ ?
[00:58] <Kiron> .
[00:58] <Caram> =\
[00:59] <aguitel> jrib: ok i try ,thanks
[00:59] <arajabat> Hi! My Windows disapered from my grub. How can I enable it again? I didn't do nothing.
[00:59] <Caram> O.O
[00:59] <ztomic> 0.0
[00:59] <FoSsiL> when you install program form the synaptic, which fold on root does it goes too?
[00:59] <Skwerl> O_o
[00:59] <Macros42> arajabat: did you upgrade anything?
[00:59] <Kiron> Arajabat
[01:00] <arajabat> Macros42: yes
[01:00] <Caram> Sounds bad.
[01:00] <Yarcanox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto there's no explanation how to get to the higher refresh rates
[01:00] <evilrox> ...no sync help?
[01:00] <jrib> FoSsiL: many.  'dpkg -L PACKAGE' will list them all, also see ubotu
[01:00] <jrib> !fhs > FoSsiL (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:00] <Yarcanox> there was another tutlink I read through (it is gone now because of the X-server restart) which told me how to do that (adding a modeline), but it didn't work
[01:00] <Yarcanox> I still can't choose a good refresh rate for 1280x1024 (the one I added with the modeline), only some lame 50 htz
[01:00] <arajabat> Kiron ?
[01:00] <jrib> !xconfig > Yarcanox (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:00] <ztomic> Yarcanox: you have to know the rates for your monitor.
[01:00] <dzer0> hello
[01:00] <Yarcanox> I know them ztomic
[01:01] <Kiron> #grub
[01:01] <Yarcanox> and I entered them into the xconf
[01:01] <Macros42> Yarcanox: the xorg config is what I did
[01:01] <Billies> how can I make it readable? when I type in sudo mount /media/sdb2, it appears in my computer window, but when I open it and try to delete a file, it says that its read only, so I back out and open the properties window and when I try to make it so I can create and delete files, it says "Couldn't change the permissions of "sdb2" because it is on a read-only disk"
[01:01] <arajabat> thank you
[01:01] <darkangel_> where are my boot settings i had to use nano to make my laptop boot a module at boot but i forget the file commands
[01:01] <Caram> Billies
[01:01] <Caram> You have ntfs partition?
[01:01] <Yarcanox> I added the lines, but I still can't choose the proper refresh rate in the system resolution menu!
[01:01] <jrib> Billies: what filesysetm?
[01:01] <Billies> NTFS, sorry
[01:01] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Billies (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:01] <ztomic> Yarcanox: pastebin
[01:01] <Yarcanox> I even added that mode line for 1280x1024@75htz, but there's just no 75 htz
[01:01] <dzer0> is there a program or something that will tell me the number of a mouse button when I press it? it would really help in configuring this one button I have on my mouse which does nothing now but I want to assign it to something but I don't know the number
[01:02] <jrib> dzer0: xev
[01:02] <Yarcanox> w8 one second ztomic ...
[01:02] <Macros42> dzer0: if you find out let me know - I can't get the buttons on my G5 working :(
[01:02] <Yarcanox> http://pastebin.org/6555 there is it
[01:02] <darkangel_> where are my boot settings i had to use nano to make my laptop boot a module at boot but i forget the file commands
[01:02] <snkmad> wheres the X configuration file located? i wanna back it up before i change the refresh rates with nvidia-settings
[01:03] <darkangel_> it sudo nano something
[01:03] <jwala> hey there, my mic works in livecd but not after install, any hint?
[01:03] <jrib> snkmad: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <dzer0> ah xev works fantastic thanks jrib :D
[01:03] <Macros42> snkmad: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <Yarcanox> ztomic http://pastebin.org/6555
[01:03] <dzer0> oh and can I add more plugins to the compiz thing that comes with ubuntu or do I have to separately install compiz fusion?
[01:03] <darkangel_> Macros42  where are my boot settings i had to use nano to make my laptop boot a module at boot but i forget the file commands
[01:03] <wirechief_> snkmad do cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:04] <pkrumins> I hope you guys do not consider this as spam. I just wrote a small tutorial on readline's (library bash uses for editing command line) Emacs editing mode, and made a cheat-sheet with all the pre-defined default keyboard shortcuts in this editing mode.Here is the link to the post with examples and the download links: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/bash-emacs-editing-mode-cheat-sheet/
[01:04] <ztomic> Yarcanox: yeah i'm lookin
[01:04] <Yarcanox> kk
[01:04] <Macros42> darkangel_: not sure - /me is pretty much a noob :D
[01:04] <snkmad> Yarcanox im having the same problem as you, i wanted X to always choose the highest refresh possible
[01:04] <jwala> hey there, my mic works in livecd but not after install, any hint?
[01:04] <ztomic> Yarcanox: you're using the generic driver.
[01:05] <tanath> epiphany keeps crashing on me when i recover the session, but i don't want to lose it. can anyone help?
[01:05] <darkangel_> Macros42 oh
[01:05] <hmuller> Anyone using PSAD?
[01:05] <Yarcanox> ztomic https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto says "More importantly if your monitor is not detectable, the Identifier will be called Generic Monitor. In which case, don't change the Identifier to anything else otherwise X will fail to load and report that it can't find the a Monitor."
[01:06] <Yarcanox> that's why I didn't change it
[01:06] <Macros42> repost as more people arrived: I have a problem with my dvd drive since I upgraded to gutsy - the activity light stays on, can't eject it and it won't mount. The drive is fine - tested a bootable cd - but in the os I can't use it - any ideas?
[01:06] <no0n> I set up a shared folder on my box and am trying to access it from my mac I have sitting next to me on the same network, but when i try to connect to it with finder I get name or password incorrect
[01:06] <ztomic> Yarcanox: you need the nv driver to get the higher refresh
[01:06] <Yarcanox> nvidia driver is running
[01:06] <jwala> hey there, my mic works in livecd but not after install, any hint?
[01:06] <Yarcanox> if you're talking about that
[01:06] <ztomic> line 86
[01:06] <ztomic> nv not nvidia
[01:06] <jrib> tanath: backup ~/.gnome2/epiphany/session*  and edit and remove what you think is causing it to crash?
[01:06] <Macros42> Yarcanox: if you have the nv driver then it should have it's own section in xorg.conf
[01:06] <Caram> no0n, what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[01:07] <Yarcanox> Macros42 http://pastebin.org/6555
[01:07] <Caram> Is ubuntu involved at all?
[01:07] <ztomic> Yarcanox: check the nvidia forum
[01:07] <no0n> Caram: ok, so if i was on another ubuntu box how would i see the folder?
[01:07] <tanath> jrib, ah, sounds like a plan. i'll try that. thanks
[01:07] <Yarcanox> nv..
[01:07] <fiXXXerMet> I have a number of hard drives connected to my computer:  2 IDE (1 on each channel), and 2 on a pci-sata card.  Why is it that the drive order changes?  Sometimes the first PATA drive will show up as sda, and sometimes as sdc, then the first drive on the sata card will take it's place.
[01:07] <jwala> hey there, my mic works in livecd but not after install, any hint?
[01:07] <Caram> Go to places, network, and you should see the other computer
[01:07] <Macros42> no0n: lol - good riposte
[01:07] <Caram> IIRC
[01:08] <dzer0> is it possible to add more plugins to desktop effects like the ones in compiz fusion?
[01:08] <Caram> You said wrong username/password?
[01:08] <Caram> Does it ask for one?
[01:08] <no0n> no
[01:08] <Caram> oh
[01:08] <Caram> =\
[01:08] <Twiggy> hey jus wonderin if someone cud help me out with phpbb2
[01:08] <Macros42> Yarcanox: sry missed that paste
[01:08] <snkmad> !paste
[01:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:09] <graelb> Hi there, I just burned a DVD on my winbox, and when i pop it into my 'buntu machine, it throws me an error saying..."Invalid mount option when tying to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'
[01:09] <fiXXXerMet> Twiggy: Wrong place to ask (most likely).  What's up?
[01:09] <darkangel_> how do i edit the file that loads modules at boot
[01:09] <Twiggy> well
[01:09] <jrib> graelb: what version of ubuntu?
[01:09] <Caram> gaelb, wrong filesystem I think
[01:09] <graelb> jrib: Gutsy
[01:09] <Caram> unsupported I mean.
[01:09] <Twiggy> im basically looking to setup a forum on my site and ive downloaded phpbb-2.0.22 and wondering how I contiue from there
[01:09] <spanks> is there a program that has a music store that I can preview songs - similar to itunes
[01:09] <jrib> graelb: there is a bug on bugs.ubuntu.com about it
[01:10] <roy> how to make surround sound 5.1 work in ubuntu?
[01:10] <snkmad> can i delete the modelines that i dont want from my xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42765/
[01:10] <Macros42> Twiggy: extract it and go to the config page - it's alll web based - then check the phpbb forums
[01:10] <graelb> jrib: Is it because it's UDF? i would imagine that would be the reason it would mention it. Is there a way to burn a CD native from vista without it being UDF?
[01:10] <Twiggy> thanks
[01:10] <graelb> ...
[01:10] <fiXXXerMet> Yeah, and you'll probably need apache2 and mysql
[01:10] <hmuller> iptables - ulogd - psad anyone?
[01:10] <graelb> jrib: if you would know that lol
[01:11] <Nobuyuki`> hello, quick question peoples!  Anyone familiar with "foremost" ?  I'm wondering if it's normal for the system to appear frozen while it's scanning an extra large image file
[01:11] <jrib> Twiggy: why are you not using the phpbb2 from the repositories?
[01:11] <darkangel_> how do i edit the file that loads modules at boot
[01:11] <Twiggy> i've no idea what that is jrib, just wanting a normal forum on my site
[01:11] <jrib> graelb: yes and I don't know.  Let me see if I find the bug again
[01:11] <MilitantPotato> Yarcanox: type sudo nvidia-config
[01:11] <jrib> !software > Twiggy (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:11] <snkmad> !xconfig
[01:11] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[01:11] <hmuller> darkangel:  sudo gedit /etc/modules
[01:11] <graelb> jrib: ok, i'm looking too, appreciate your help =)
[01:11] <ztomic> Yarcanox: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138
[01:12] <Caram> epic fail.
[01:12] <snkmad> !FixRes
[01:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:12] <darkangel_> hmuller thanks
[01:12] <jrib> Twiggy: you don't download things to install software on ubuntu, you use a Package Manager to fetch packages from the repositories
[01:12] <hmuller> yup yup
[01:12] <snkmad> ztomic im having the same problem as Yarcanox , can u help me too?
[01:13] <snkmad> can i delete the modelines that i dont want from my xorg.conf? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42765/
[01:13] <bobbob1016> I'm doing a speech on Linux tomorrow, focusing on Ubuntu.  I am just curious how many of you have had experience with installing on a computer with XP or Vista on it already, and if the auto-resize NTFS partitions works well.  I'm also planning on having some LiveCD's with me incase anyone wants them.
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: read the stuff snkmad just posted.
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> oops
[01:13] <bobbob1016> For my public speaking class.
[01:13] <fiXXXerMet> What could cause my drives (both pata and sata) to change order (swapping sda/b/c/d places)?
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: read those websites :)
[01:13] <Twiggy> I'll figure it out, thanks anyways
[01:13] <roy> bob i use a second hared drive and boot to ubuntu
[01:14] <snkmad> i did, just wanna know if its safe to delete the modelines i dont wanna use
[01:14] <Macros42> bobbob1016: for my first tryout I installed on a XP box - resized the partition fine and dual booted it - easy as pie
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: probably, but why would ya?
[01:14] <Caram> Bob, having live cds on hand is a good idea
[01:14] <snkmad> coz there are some modelines with low refresh rate
[01:14] <Caram> But explain that you HAVE to unmount the drives. :P
[01:14] <snkmad> those with @60hz
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: you can set a higher refresh via ubuntu
[01:14] <bobbob1016> roy, I have a partition, I am just seeing if the resize works, since that is what most people would be doing in the class.  I thought it would be a good idea to see how many people had success with it.
[01:15] <MilitantPotato> the 60hz won't bother you if ya don't set it to that.
[01:15] <bobbob1016> Caram, unmount what, removeables?
[01:15] <snkmad> and i want a way that it would be locked
[01:15] <Caram> The hard drive
[01:15] <Caram> =\
[01:15] <Caram> After finishing
[01:15] <tanath> jrib, well, i tried removing some windows & tabs, but it's still crashing. maybe it's the update
[01:15] <bobbob1016> Caram, I mean partitioning in the installer.
[01:15] <Caram> oh
[01:16] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: did you click "make default for this computer"
[01:16] <Caram> my bad =P
[01:16] <MilitantPotato> fiXXXerMet: Boot order in bios?
[01:16] <bobbob1016> Caram, not gparted or whichever.  I think if they try it, it'll mainly a "next next next" group.  I'm going to say "It isn't for everyone, but with this CD it can't hurt to try.  If you run into problems, ask me, I can help or point you in the right direction.
[01:16] <snkmad> MilitantPotato not all resolutions appear on the ubuntu screen resolution app
[01:17] <roy> bob i did not want to take the chance of playing with my windows so i pulled the plug on windows made my 2 nd hard drive master and installed Ubuntu and then press f2 to get to ubuntu all the time  it is very quick this way
[01:17] <Macros42> bobbob1016: that's what I thought - it's works perfectly in my experience
[01:17] <dstadulis> How can I find a list of devices that are connected to my computer but are not mounted?
[01:17] <Macros42> but I only did it twice
[01:17] <snkmad> just wanna know, if things go bad, can i just overwrite the current xorg file with the backup i just made?
[01:17] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: did you find your monitor in System>Administration>Screens and Graphics
[01:17] <fiXXXerMet> MilitantPotato: Hasn't changed.  I installed to sda, then went to reinstall (kernel problem), and another drive and sdc was listed as sda
[01:17] <Macros42> snkmad: you can
[01:17] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: yep.
[01:17] <bobbob1016> roy, The people I'm giving the CD's to won't be able to do that.
[01:17] <roy> k
[01:18] <jrib> graelb: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/44233 was what I was thinking of
[01:18] <Macros42> but if it goes really pearshaped you'll only have a console login
[01:18] <snkmad> its a samsung syncmaster 753v, but i putted the 753dfx, which only differ coz its flat, and mines normal
[01:18] <hmuller> Raise your hand if you bought a brand new laptop and installed 7.10 right over the top of Vista
[01:18]  * Macros42 raises hand
[01:18] <MilitantPotato> fiXXXerMet: is this in boot or after you got linux installed again?
[01:18] <hmuller> right on
[01:18] <Macros42> except I didn't dual boot
[01:18] <tnseditor> I am dual booting
[01:18] <Macros42> I just wiped it
[01:18] <hmuller> same here
[01:18] <Pelo> dstadulis, if you are talking about storage devices all the connected ones whould be listed in "my computer" even if they are not mounted
[01:18] <hmuller> adios
[01:18] <tnseditor> although sometimes it is duel booting :-p
[01:18]  * Macros42 lowers hand - it was feisty I did it with
[01:18] <fiXXXerMet> MilitantPotato: In the partition stage of installation,
[01:18] <ztomic> snkmad: you need to use the nv driver in your xorg.conf
[01:18] <Caram> Has anyone had experience running ubuntu on a virtualized server?
[01:19] <hmuller> close enough
[01:19] <Macros42> hehe
[01:19] <ztomic> snkmad, Yarcanox: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138
[01:19] <hmuller> Caram:  I've run Vista virtualized on ubuntu, does that count?
[01:19] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: Nvidia is the propritary driver
[01:19] <fiXXXerMet> MilitantPotato: The same thing happens on my desktop.  I installed to sda, but now sdb has became sda and when I type "mount" it shows / on sdb
[01:19] <Caram> Yeah, sure. Same basic idea...
[01:19] <ztomic> MilitantPotato: oh shit
[01:19] <Caram> How does it run?
[01:19] <ztomic> !
[01:20] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: yea.
[01:20] <Pici> !language | ztomic
[01:20] <ubotu> ztomic: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:20] <Macros42> hmuller: the best part was getting the 50 euro refund from dell for the unused vista license :D
[01:20] <hmuller> aactually pretty good
[01:20] <hmuller> Macros42:  I should have done that too
[01:20] <ztomic> one too many
[01:20] <snkmad> ztomic should i search or post my doubt there?
[01:20] <MilitantPotato> I installed nvidia-glx-new on my wife's PC, it's using driver "nvidia"
[01:20] <tnseditor> I took the Ubuntu CD with me to try out when I bought the laptop
[01:20] <Caram> What program are you using?
[01:20] <ztomic> snkmad: hang on
[01:20] <tnseditor> and handed the clerk a CD :-p
[01:20] <heatxsink> hello all
[01:20] <graelb> jrib: ok, thanks for the pointing direction, i'll take a look, see what i can do
[01:20] <snkmad> ok
[01:20] <hmuller> Caram: kvm/qemu, now I have a reason to upgrade to 4GB ram  =)
[01:20] <heatxsink> where can I get an iso of ubuntu server fiesty ?
[01:21] <Caram> :P
[01:21] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: what video card do you have?
[01:21] <snkmad> geforce 6100
[01:21] <Caram> Did you use it with anything less than 4gigs?
[01:21] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: did you install restricted drivers
[01:21] <Pelo> heatxsink, from the ubuntu.com site
[01:21] <snkmad> yes
[01:21] <hmuller> Caram: I'm using 2GB now, and still have ram to spare running a vista guest
[01:21] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: sudo nvidia-config
[01:21] <Macros42> hmuller: how long ago did you get the lappy?
[01:21] <Caram> okay, thanks
[01:21] <Caram> =)
[01:21] <snkmad> ok
[01:21] <heatxsink> Pelo the download section points me to Gusty
[01:21] <hmuller> Macros42: 3 weeks ago
[01:22] <snkmad> command not found
[01:22] <Macros42> then do it now - I'll paste the email I sent them for you - nice little form mail
[01:22] <analfabeta> My gnome dont start, showme that:  Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. For further details, see:     http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html
[01:22] <analfabeta> Refusing to initialize GTK+.
[01:22] <analfabeta> what is that?
[01:22] <Pelo> heatxsink, navigate your way to the mirrors,
[01:22] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: open synaptic
[01:22] <hmuller> right on
[01:22] <snkmad> ok
[01:22] <ztomic> snkmad: check the the refresh you are trying to use is listed.
[01:23] <ztomic> for the resolution you selected.
[01:23] <heatxsink> Pelo?
[01:23] <heatxsink> then?
[01:23] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: search for nvidia
[01:23] <snkmad> ztomic under modeline?
[01:23] <hmuller> Caram:  Virtualbox is another option, I haven't tested it yet though.
[01:23] <Pelo> heatxsink, should be listed in the bunch
[01:23] <ztomic> yup..
[01:23] <Macros42> hmuller: http://pastebin.org/6556
[01:23] <ztomic> actually... there seems to be more drud than there should be.
[01:24] <FoSsiL> when you guy install .bin files, once extracted it is install. and to uninstall all you have to do is just remove that folder. right? im asking this just wanna be sure im correct.
[01:24] <ztomic> drud=crud
[01:24] <Macros42> got a reply the next day telling me the refund would be on my cc within 10 working days
[01:24] <snkmad> yeah i wanna use 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 @ 85hz :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42765/
[01:24] <Pelo> heatxsink, http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/7.04/
[01:24] <threeseas> I'm back....... solved my gutsy internet speed problem. Tried booting with older versions of ubuntu (6.10) and had the same problem, so I thought maybe its the network card and I do have plenty of those around... so I swapped out and now I'm back to full speed
[01:24] <heatxsink> thx
[01:24] <heatxsink> i see it
[01:24] <heatxsink> Pelo:  thank you so much!
[01:24] <heatxsink> Pelo:  you rule!
[01:24] <ztomic> MilitantPotato: do you know the answer? if so I would love a break.
[01:24] <snkmad> ztomic lines 77~95
[01:24] <hmuller> Macros42: now that made me laugh
[01:24] <Pelo> heatxsink,  no prob
[01:24] <binarymutant> help, i cant change my resolution
[01:25] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: you *should* have nvidia-glx installed, if so, right click it, check complete removal, then install nvidia-glx-new
[01:25] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: for?
[01:25] <ztomic> snkmad:
[01:25] <Macros42> hmuller: made me laugh too when they gave me the money back :D
[01:25] <snkmad> i have nvidia-glx-new
[01:25] <Pelo> binarymutant,  is the res you want not available in menu > system > prefs > screen resolution ?
[01:25] <no0n> ok so I added a shared folder and got it to work with smb.  i unchecked read only.  when i connect it prompts for WORKGROUP, USER, PASSWORD,  there isnt anywhere to set these items in the shared folder dialog though. so i deleted all items and logged in with nothing and it worked.  but i cant write things to the folder, even though i unchecked readonly
[01:25] <AngryElf> what program is out there like NERO that cna burn an AUDIO/VIDEO folders to make a DVD-playable disk?
[01:25] <hmuller> I have to say, I like my minimalist compiz setup way better than vista
[01:25] <ztomic> MilitantPotato: you take over.
[01:25] <ztomic> I need another beer
[01:25] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: hopefully he's following my instructions :)
[01:25] <snkmad> ok
[01:25] <hmuller> and this 1420 rocks
[01:26] <hmuller> on linux that is
[01:26] <snkmad> MilitantPotato i have nvidia-glx-new
[01:26] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: already?
[01:26] <binarymutant> Pelo, it is but the resolution stays the same when I change it, also when I change it in xorg.conf it still stays the same at a nasty 640x480 resolution
[01:26] <hmuller> any fellow iptables/ulog users in the room?
[01:26] <snkmad> i did install them, and only them
[01:26] <Pelo> binarymutant, what videocard do you have ?
[01:26] <djjason> can anyone recommend a good overall cd/dvd burning software
[01:26] <snkmad> djjason k3b
[01:27] <djjason> snkmad: thanks, it will work ok on Gnome?
[01:27] <binarymutant> Pelo, i've got an ati rage mobilty I think it's like the radeon 9000
[01:27] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: click System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[01:27] <snkmad> dunno never used it
[01:27] <Macros42> this 6400 too - was a dog on vista
[01:27] <hmuller> djjason:  If you are using gnome, have you tried the burn functionality in nautilus?
[01:27] <Caram> snkmad will that burn ISO?
[01:27] <thomasl> ddjason: I like cdrecord, but in a cli type of guy
[01:28] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: is it checked already?
[01:28] <binarymutant> k3b will burn iso's it's the best
[01:28] <snkmad> MilitantPotato it says "enabled, in use
[01:28] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: run sudo nvidia-config-display
[01:28] <djjason> hmuller: will that burn iso also
[01:28] <hmuller> djjason:  yep, use it all the time
[01:28] <snkmad> command not found :(
[01:28] <pauloress> olas
[01:28] <djjason> hmuller: hmmm..maybe I'll take a look at that then...thanks
[01:28] <drifterz> cool
[01:28] <hmuller> djjason:  just save the iso wherever... then right click it and burn the iso to disk
[01:28] <ztomic> gotta love proprietary drivers!
[01:29] <Pelo> binarymutant, are you using the restricted drivers or the binaries ?  those have a special way of setting extra rezolution,  you'll have to look it up in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org   search for ati resolution
[01:29] <djjason> hmuller: alright...will try
[01:29] <pauloress> alguém fala português por aqui?
[01:29] <thomasl> Anyone else had problems with OpenOffice and the fglrx drivers?
[01:29] <Pelo> !pr | pauloress
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <snkmad> pauloress sim, mas é melhor vc tentar ajuda no canal #ubuntu-br
[01:29] <Pelo> !portuguese
[01:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:29] <hmuller> pauloress:  No but my portugese daycare provider does
[01:29] <pauloress> snkmad
[01:29]  * Pelo sighs deeply
[01:30] <pauloress> valeu cara
[01:30] <snkmad> sem problema
[01:30] <shenron__> hey nautilus died so I killed all the processes associated with it
[01:30] <shenron__> and
[01:30] <shenron__> shenron@paws:~$ nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default2
[01:30] <shenron__> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[01:30] <shenron__> \
[01:30] <shenron__> did that command
[01:30] <shenron__> it stalls there
[01:30] <shenron__> forever
[01:30] <shenron__> any ideas why?
[01:30] <Pelo> !enter | shenron__
[01:30] <ubotu> shenron__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:30] <MasterShrek> !enter | shenron__
[01:30] <eugman> anyone know what solution I should use for https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[01:30] <Task> Hmm..... for some reason I goto install the OS and it hangs up at the very first part.... can anyone help me?
[01:30] <shenron__> oh I'm sorry :p
[01:31] <Macros42> Task: try the alternate CD
[01:31] <Pelo> eugman,just tell us the problem  posting a link to a bug does not motivate ppl to look at it or answer you
[01:31] <ztomic> shenron__: d00de!
[01:31] <shenron__> d00de!
[01:31] <shenron__> what
[01:31] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: sudo nvidia-glx-config
[01:31] <Macros42> Task: usuallly a problem with the ide drive
[01:31] <arajabat> Hi! My Windows disapired from my grub. I didnt do anything. ps.: people from #grub dont answer me
[01:31] <Tarkus> does anyone know why when i have a window open as root (like synaptic, or if i do 'sudo thunar', etc..) it doesnt keep my current GTK+ theme? it uses a very ugly grey system theme... any idea?
[01:31] <Task> Ummmm is that where you check the box before you download it?
[01:32] <Task> Macros42
[01:32] <eugman> Pelo, well honestly I don't know much about it but I heard about an issue with laptop harddrives being shortened because of that issue
[01:32] <snkmad> /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:
[01:32] <snkmad> Usage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable]
[01:32] <Macros42> yep
[01:32] <mneptok> Tarkus: because the root user does not have your GNOME prefs.
[01:32] <Task> Ok... will do.... thanks
[01:32] <Pelo> arajabat, ppl from grub might not be around,  look in /boot/grub/ , look of a backup of your menu.lst file and restore it
[01:32] <MilitantPotato> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:32] <Macros42> i had the same problem on an old box - only differences are that it's not a livecd and it's a text based installer
[01:32] <snkmad> MilitantPotato should i put enable after sudo nvidia-glx-config?
[01:32] <snkmad> ok
[01:33] <Tarkus> mneptok, strange though, how the window border is the same theme as my main user.
[01:33] <viksa> i'm getting this error message when booting ubuntu live cd and my cpu fan stop working and i get overheat any solution
[01:33] <Tarkus> mneptok, but the gtk theme, isnt
[01:33] <mneptok> Tarkus: why is that strange?
[01:33] <viksa> i'm getting this error message "8254 timer not connected to io-apic" when booting ubuntu live cd and my cpu fan stop working and i get overheat any solution
[01:33] <Pelo> eugman, if it the the bug I think it is ,  do a search on digg for the article ,  there is a simple line you cna put in , but honestly ,I don'T think it's the kind of bug most user should worry about
[01:33] <shenron__> so does anyone know why nautilus hangs when it tries to initialize the gnome-mount extension
[01:33] <ztomic> MilitantPotato: what's gonna suc is if his X dies and he can't get back in here for help.. :)
[01:33] <Task> Macros42 : Do I have to partion the Hard drive,,,,, I was going to install it on the same partition with windows... is that ok???
[01:34] <MilitantPotato> ztomic: agreed, he backed up his Xorg.conf though
[01:34] <shenron__> Task: only one OS per partition
[01:34] <Pelo> viksa, do a search in the forum for no apic ,  there is a way to fix that thing I just don't know what it is
[01:34] <mneptok> Task: it's not OK. it's impossible.
[01:34] <snkmad> MilitantPotato said my X config has been altered, and told me to run md5
[01:34] <Tarkus> mneptok, because the both my gtk and WB themes are in /home/mike/.themes (only for my user (mike))..
[01:34] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: sudo nvidia-settings
[01:34] <Task> ohhh
[01:34] <Macros42> it's not impossible
[01:34] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: figured, just making sure everything's kosher.
[01:35] <snkmad> ztomic if X dies, i can copy the backup over the xorg.conf on console?
[01:35] <Macros42> works fine - just allow the auto resizing
[01:35] <drifterz> what P2P packages are available such as limewire using the gunetella and like networks.
[01:35] <Tarkus> mneptok, so i just thought that if root doesnt use the settings from 'mike'. then i dont understand how it has my window border settings.
[01:35] <Task> hmm,,,, I guess I should set up a network and transfer all my files to my laptop them?
[01:35] <Task> than*
[01:35] <Macros42> ah sry - misread
[01:35] <snkmad> MilitantPotato ok its running
[01:35] <hmuller> MilitantPotato:  Sweet, I didn't know about that one.  I'm kinda new to nvidia graphics
[01:35] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: see if you can adjust your monitor hz
[01:35] <mneptok> Macros42: it is impossible to install Windows and Linux on the same partition.
[01:35] <Macros42> has to be a new partition - but the installer can resize the existing one
[01:35]  * Pelo thinks Task  got confused you can install on the same hdd as windows just not on thesame partition, you need to resize the windows partition to make room for an ubuntu partition 
[01:36] <Macros42> mneptok: already retracted :)
[01:36] <Macros42> I misread Tasks post
[01:36] <Task> Can I partition it with out erasing the other half.....?
[01:36] <mneptok> Macros42: actually, i should add "barring virtualization"
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> Task: yes, but you risk data loss
[01:36] <Task> oh
[01:36] <snkmad> MilitantPotato this way itll be locked? like ie, i set 800x600 to @ 85hz, change to 1024x768, when i go back to 800x600 itll be @ 85hz?
[01:36] <Task> darn it
[01:36] <Macros42> the installer can resize the partition
[01:36] <Macros42> but make sure you backup anything critical
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: maybe.
[01:37] <Macros42> any partition manipulation is risky
[01:37] <Pelo> Task,  yes you can resize without losing your windws data but you better backup the important stuff first, just in case
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: you might have to select 85hz the first time you choose a rez.
[01:37] <Task> I wish I had a extra hard drive now....
[01:37] <temp1234> has anyone explored that hard drive bug at all?  What is an average load cycle per day?
[01:37] <snkmad> ok gonna try, since the xorg.conf is backed
[01:37] <Task> yeah
[01:37] <spoulson> Hello
[01:37] <Task> Ok guys... thnks...... Iamma go try it :)
[01:37] <snkmad> should i apply all res changes? or just right to X confg file?
[01:37] <Macros42> Task: good luck :)
[01:37] <Tarkus> anyone know how to make the root user have the same theme settings as my main user?
[01:37] <Pelo> Task,  defrag your hdd first , it will make it easier
[01:37] <shmi85> does anyone have the time to help me troubleshoot why totem mplayer refuses to play this dvd? i have every single plugin installed that's listed here: http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/#codecs and i still repeatedly get an error message that totem does not have appropriate plugins to read from the disc
[01:38] <shmi85> and i'm running gutsy
[01:38] <shmi85> but this happened in fiesty too
[01:38] <Pelo> Tarkus, start the theme manager with sudo
[01:38] <snkmad> *write
[01:38] <Diafic> bed now.
[01:38] <ztomic> would I get booted if I mention medibuntu?
[01:38] <Pelo> !dvd | shmi85  but you can't get great dvd stuff in totem, use xine
[01:38] <ubotu> shmi85  but you can't get great dvd stuff in totem, use xine: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:39] <shmi85> xine has fucked up colors going on pelo
[01:39] <shmi85> everything looks horribly washed out
[01:39] <snkmad> or should i just write to X after ive done all the changes?
[01:39] <mneptok> !language | shmi85
[01:39] <ubotu> shmi85: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:39] <ztomic> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[01:39] <Tarkus> Pelo, ok, but then if i decide to change the theme.. i would have to do it for both users? (there is no way to make them share the settings?)
[01:39] <Pelo> shmi85, working well for me right now
[01:40] <ztomic> I don't hang around here much...
[01:40] <Pelo> Tarkus,  not that I know of ,  but between you and me , you shouldn't be using root much or at all so why does it matter ?
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> snk huh?
[01:40] <Pelo> ztomic,  you are missing so much
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: after you're done just close and save.
[01:40] <hmuller> iptables --> ulogd --> psad ...  anyone else?
[01:40] <ztomic> Pelo: howdy d00de!
[01:41] <snkmad> ok trying now
[01:41] <niix> hi, does anybody use slmodemd in ubuntu? It works with me but with no sounds
[01:41] <niix> i use alsa driver
[01:42] <niix> i used smart link drivers as well with same result
[01:42] <Pelo> niix,  I suggest you check inte slmodems prefs to makesure itused the correct output device
[01:42] <Pelo> that's all I have
[01:42] <Macros42> bedtime - nn all
[01:42] <whyameye> resume is working AFTER I hibernate but not before. Nvidia binary drivers on amd64 Gutsy. How might I troubleshoot this?
[01:42] <ztomic> night
[01:43] <snkmad> ok done, gonna try something now, brb
[01:43] <niix> Pelo: from where can i check them?
[01:43] <Syrra> Hello, so I'm running off a live cd because I'm getting a Grub Error 21 :/
[01:43] <void2258> hello
[01:43] <Syrra> How would I go about fixing that?
[01:43] <Pelo> niix, I don't know I've never used that prog myself,  but that is usualy one of the causes,  the prog is not set to the correct sound device
[01:44] <Pelo> niix,  I suggest you try finding a channel or a forum for that prog, they probably have the answer , or in www.ubunfuforums.org
[01:44] <void2258> hello?
[01:44] <MilitantPotato> Syrra: are all your drives showing up in Bios?
[01:44] <void2258> anybody open?
[01:44] <MilitantPotato> Error 21 means the drive doesn't exist.
[01:44] <Syrra> Heh, I forgot to check
[01:45] <Syrra> I didn't change anything though
[01:45] <Syrra> I noticed that stuff started acting weird so I rebooted. Wrong thing to do I guess >_>
[01:45] <niix> which is the safest way to dial up as user? I mean without put the pass as user all the time
[01:45] <Syrra> I was organizing my USB drive and listening to music at the time :/
[01:45] <void2258> windows reflex
[01:45] <darkangel_> dose ubuntu programs run on xubuntu
[01:45] <Jimb> Syrra:  what does gparted show
[01:45] <Pelo> darkangel_, yes
[01:46] <gvsa123> hello... i need help trying to make my webcam work with gutsy
[01:46] <Pelo> !webcam | gvsa123
[01:46] <ubotu> gvsa123: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:46] <darkangel_> Pelo thanks i need to use xbuntu cause i only have 198 mb of ram
[01:46] <Tarkus> Pelo, well.. i need to use root to install packages with synaptic..
[01:46] <MilitantPotato> Syrra: are all your partitions showing?
[01:46] <hmuller> syrra:  there's a solution for that on gentoo.org just google: grub error 21 site:google.org
[01:46] <darkangel_> Pelo: it dose operate the same right
[01:46] <Pelo> darkangel_,  some progs may have higher mem requirements
[01:46] <void2258> I can no longer browse inside zip files in my image viewers, and I really need to. I get like 50-100 a day, I can't unzip them, and I need to be able to look inside at the pictures
[01:47] <void2258> I could do it and then it just stopped working
[01:47] <darkangel_> Pelo all i use is wine, firefox, this xchat
[01:47] <void2258> any idea?
[01:47] <Pelo> darkangel_,  there is no reason gnome progs can't work in xfce,  the needed libs will be added if any
[01:47] <no0n>  Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" ?
[01:47] <hmuller> well if there aren't any other firewaller / ids'ers in the channel, I'm off to bed...
[01:47] <spanks> is there a program that has a music store that I can preview songs - similar to itunes
[01:47] <void2258> I hate having to reboot all the time and go back to windows to use ACDSee
[01:47] <Pelo> void2258, check in synaptic search for zip , install the proper file support
[01:47] <Syrra> Well, it's seeing the drive flagged as boot, anyway
[01:48] <Pelo> spanks, you mean online music store ?
[01:48] <void2258> I can open zip files normally, I seem to have support
[01:48] <hmuller> nite all
[01:48] <gvsa123> Pelo: went there already... tried easycam and easycam2, but didn't work... lsusb shows that it is connected, but applications cannot find it in /dev/video0
[01:48] <void2258> unless there is a special package to let image viewers look inside
[01:48] <Xerostyl1> Quick question, and then I'll be gone
[01:48] <Pelo> void2258, sounds like a fileroller issue but I donT' know anything about it
[01:48] <Jimb> Syrra; we just want to identify if the drives were showing
[01:49] <snkmad> well didnt work for my game
[01:49] <no0n> when I restart my nfs-kernel-server it hangs on starting
[01:49] <Pelo> gvsa123, you might want to look up your cam model in the forum see if there is anything there
[01:49] <void2258> fileroller?
[01:49] <MilitantPotato> Syrra: boot, and / ?
[01:49] <Pelo> void2258, fileroller is the gui app that handles archives
[01:49] <Xerostyl1> Is there a way to use the Xbox 360 wireless adapter to work with ubuntu?
[01:50] <Caram> O.O
[01:50] <MilitantPotato> snkmad: games are completely different :)
[01:50] <snkmad> MilitantPotato the settings are locked indeed
[01:50] <snkmad> thx
[01:50] <Syrra> My hard drives are set up weird :/
[01:50] <MilitantPotato> :)
[01:50] <void2258> should I try re-install file roller?
[01:50] <MilitantPotato> Syrra: are any missing?
[01:50] <Caram> Syrra. how so?
[01:50] <snkmad> MilitantPotato  maybe now ill have to go fight with wine...
[01:50] <Pelo> void2258, can't hurt
[01:50] <Syrra> I've got root and home on different hard drives, and there's like, 5 partitions on one of them, 2 on the other
[01:50] <spanks> pelo: i'm looking for a good way to search for music, similar to itunes
[01:51] <Caram> o.O
[01:51] <gvsa123> Pelo: i will... i remember installing something from synaptic under fiesty which made it work, but it doesn't seem to show up in my searches now...
[01:51] <Pelo> spanks,  I don't know of one, sorry
[01:51] <Syrra> I believe that ubuntu and windows home is on sda, while sdb has everything else
[01:51] <void2258> nope, still pop an archive window instead of going inside the zip
[01:52] <fujin_> !feisty->gutsy
[01:52] <Caram> Does it run okay?
[01:52] <Caram> >_>
[01:52] <fujin_> Is there an update-manager thing for feisty, that'll let me upgrade to gutsy?
[01:52] <fujin_> (server)
[01:52] <Caram> or is it just weird?
[01:52] <Pelo> void2258, try starting fileroller from the application menu and then browsing yoru way to the zip file, mightjust be a default open mode that is not right
[01:53] <fujin_> !update-manager
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <fujin_> !updatemanager
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatemanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <fujin_> sorry bawt
[01:53] <Pelo> fujin_, what do you need to knwo ?
[01:53] <edman007> anyone have problems getting the 965GM video card working in gutsy?
[01:53] <fujin_> Does update-manager work in feisty server?
[01:53] <void2258> file roller isn't in the applications menu
[01:53] <lynkan> !tao
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tao - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <void2258> unless hidden
[01:53] <dwf_starband> I just followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525736&highlight=fusesmb to get fusesmb going on my two gutsy machines, They find the windows shares and each others samba shares but can only open the windows shares, the windows machine can open all the shares
[01:54] <Pelo> fujin_, I don't know , but here is a link that might have the answer,  there is a command line for upgrades in it
[01:54] <Syrra> So, the drives are there, Grub isn't seeing them. the root hd is probably a little old by now. It might be dying.
[01:54] <dwf_starband> how can I make them able to open each others shares?
[01:54] <Pelo> !upgrade | fujin_
[01:54] <ubotu> fujin_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:54] <heatxsink> anyone in here ever customize ubuntu and make their own installers?
[01:54] <Syrra> I also got a "too many files are open" error while I was in ubuntu
[01:54] <Caram> =\
[01:54] <Caram> What do you mean by multiple partitions?
[01:54] <no0n> I edited my /etc/exports file and clearly specified read-write access with 'rw' but I get a permission denied when i try to create a folder from my other machine
[01:54] <Syrra> and the desktop stuff except wallpaper keeps disappearing
[01:55] <Syrra> uh, there's
[01:55] <Syrra> root, swap
[01:55] <Syrra> a fat32
[01:55] <multidex> I was beginning to upgrade to 7.10 and got this error: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[01:55] <multidex> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2) ... any ideas why?
[01:55] <Syrra> and some other stuff on sdb
[01:55] <void2258> opening file roller just gets me an empty archive window
[01:55] <Pelo> heatxsink, this might be what you want ( notice the use of the word "might") http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
[01:55] <Caram> TBH, I have no idea what is up... =\
[01:55] <Syrra> the smaller, older drive
[01:55] <Caram> sorry
[01:56] <b1n42y> hi all has any1 seen this...looks alarming...what can be done ?  http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/1742258&from=rss
[01:56] <Pelo> void2258,  that's the best I can do for you,  check in the forum
[01:56] <void2258> I tried there, no one answers :-(
[01:56] <MilitantPotato> !grub
[01:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:57] <Pelo> void2258,  use the search feature to look for other threads
[01:57] <caner> how can i make jack audio server to start every time the computer starts??
[01:57] <ztomic> b1n42y: gimme a break
[01:57] <Syrra> so, reinstall grub then? or what?
[01:57] <Syrra> Oh, the first time I rebooted I got an error 22
[01:57] <Syrra> but after that it was a 21
[01:57] <b1n42y> ztomic, are they full of kaka
[01:57] <b1n42y> t?
[01:58] <MilitantPotato> b1n42y: Ubuntu doesn't touch powersaving settings unless you enable them
[01:58] <FluxD> hmm I am looking for this maketorrent program but I cant find any links on google :(
[01:58] <Pelo> b1n42y,  this article and others overstate the problem , regular users shouldn't realy worry as far as I know
[01:58] <ztomic> b1n42y: I look for linux friendly stuff anyway. sounds like crap to me.
[01:58] <MilitantPotato> b1n42y: I read something from the developer, it's completely not ubuntu's fault, and can be fixed by editing the drives power saving settings
[01:58] <b1n42y> okay just needed your opinions
[01:58] <snkmad> how do i kill a zombie process? its ID 8781
[01:58] <Caram> MilitantPotato, that is done in the BIOS?
[01:58] <ztomic> b1n42y: sounds like a MS employee got a blog goin'
[01:59] <kelsin> b1n42y: There have been lots of ubuntu blog posts explaining the situation in detail too, and even how to find out if you're affected, even though by all normal accounts you shouldn't be
[01:59] <Caram> snkmad, I hear you have to drive a stake through it's heart
[01:59] <Pelo> snkmad, man kill
[01:59] <MilitantPotato> Caram: nah, in ubuntu
[01:59] <Dolphin91> hey
[01:59] <Dolphin91> guys
[01:59] <b1n42y> okai ill look into thanks all
[01:59] <Caram> MilitantPotato, but if I'm running a live CD, I can't do anything?
[01:59] <Caram> <_<
[01:59] <void2258> nothing in forums, only thing related is my unanswered topic
[02:00] <void2258> unless someone knows better search keywords
[02:00] <Pelo> void2258, just search for zip and then read read read
[02:00] <kelsin> snkmad: if I recall right you can't kill a zombie process... which is really annoying. I forget why but I think I read that while googling
[02:00] <Pelo> void2258,  or just bite the bullet and extract the file
[02:01] <snkmad> kill -9 8781 wouldnt do it?
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> Caram
[02:01] <kelsin> snkmad: try it? but if it doesn't then no
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> $ sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[02:01] <MilitantPotato>   $ sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/sda
[02:01] <Pelo> snkmad,  taht isthe name of the process ?
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> It only is saved untill you reboot
[02:01] <Caram> Alright, thanks
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> Caram: but if you havn't enabled laptop mode you're ok.
[02:01] <snkmad> ah manged to kill it via gnome system monitor
[02:01] <Pelo> snkmad,  what is the name of the process ?    sudo killall processname
[02:02] <Caram> MilitantPotato, that has to happen manually, correct?
[02:02] <Caram> to set laptop mode?
[02:02] <ztomic> hardware has always been an issue with linux anyway. If you build your own, look for linux friendly stuff. But if you don't buy a computer from someone who builds linux boxes. simple problem: pay for support but dont pay for fear.
[02:02] <MilitantPotato> Caram: it's a bug with laptop makers over happy power saving methods, to increase battery life
[02:02] <MilitantPotato> Caram: yes.
[02:02] <Caram> Thanks for your help =)
[02:02] <fiXXXerMet> I need to flash the bios of one of my computers but it does not have a floppy drive.  I have a windows 98 boot disk here (dos).  How can I make an image of that and then add my bios files to the image, so I can burn a cd with it?
[02:02] <MilitantPotato> Caram: here
[02:03] <MilitantPotato> http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/laptop-hardrive-killer-bug/
[02:03] <SteveR> Hello, anyone here use CAD on Ubuntu?
[02:03] <kelsin> snkmad: did you mean zombie as in ps shows the Z flag for it, or zombie as in... just stalled?
[02:03] <b0nn> I have a fried upgrade (edgy->feisty), any ideas on where to start fixing it?
[02:03] <Pelo> SteveR, as in Computer Aided Drawing ?
[02:03] <snkmad> kelsin actually dont know, but system monitor killed it
[02:03] <SteveR> yes pelo
[02:04] <Pelo> SteveR, I'm Autocad user and I haven't realy found anything that's up to par yet
[02:04] <kelsin> snkmad: then yeah, when I said you couldn't I meant if the kernel registered it as zombie :) sorry, the system monitor or kill -9 are both fine :)
[02:04] <ztomic> fiXXXerMet: good question! simple answer- you need DOS. Any DOS will do.
[02:04] <snkmad> ok
[02:04] <Syrra> Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label. < wait, what?
[02:04] <SteveR> Pelo have you looked into Collabcad -- I'm thinking of trying a compile
[02:04] <Pelo> SteveR, got a link ?
[02:04] <fiXXXerMet> ztomic: I have that (win98se boot floppy)
[02:05] <SteveR> www.collabcad.com
[02:05] <Frogzoo_> Syrra: it's a blank disk?
[02:05] <Pelo> SteveR, and what is the issue you are havnig with the compiling ?
[02:05] <ztomic> fiXXXerMet: sounds like it'll work.
[02:05] <Syrra> I shouldn't have a blank disk on here?
[02:05] <SteveR> actually, no issue pelo -- just looking for others who may be interested
[02:05] <fiXXXerMet> ztomic: Well how do I make an image out of it and then add files to the image?
[02:06] <SteveR> or have experience with other cads on ubuntu, pelo
[02:06] <jmak642> hello
[02:06] <Pelo> SteveR, thanks for the link I've bookmarked it , but it seems mostly modeling, I do more plans ,
[02:06] <jmak642> i'm looking for some help with my nvidia driver
[02:06] <jmak642> any takers?
[02:06] <ztomic> fiXXXerMet: you dont need an image.
[02:07] <fiXXXerMet> ztomic: I can just burn the files to a cd and it'll boot?
[02:07] <SteveR> pelo, but you need 3D?
[02:07] <Pelo> SteveR, I've tried sagcad and qcad,  and I tried a few others I couldn't get working right, so far I am not to impressed, so I still have windows on another partiton
[02:07] <Pelo> SteveR, occasionnaly but rarely
[02:07] <devios> hey all - I have an external usb hdd.  I just installed 7.10 on it, and installed grub to it as well (this way it doesn't touch my internal hdd).  the grub menu comes up, but when I select the kernel, it fails.  I guess I need to figure out how to pre-load usb drivers or something?  can someone point me in the right direction here?
[02:07] <fiXXXerMet> (the files being the ones on the win98se floppy?
[02:07] <ztomic> fiXXXerMet: no floppy?
[02:07] <eluzi> boa noite srs
[02:07] <ztomic> did I miss something?
[02:08] <fiXXXerMet> I have a bootable floppy but no floppy drive in the computer to be flashed (i have on on this pc)
[02:08] <SteveR> Pelo, same here with windows, I'm hoping to fully migrate to linux, but cad is the problem
[02:08] <Pelo> SteveR, it's not much of an issue for me atm anyway,  I don't do much drawing anymore
[02:09] <jmak642> i am trying to use the nvidia-glx-new driver and it just wont work
[02:09] <jmak642> i've also tried the nvidia-glx driver
[02:09] <ztomic> fiXXXerMet: last time I tried to flash from cd I screwed it up. part of what youre trying to upgrade hase to do with ide. It might work but it's best to do from floppy.
[02:09] <Pelo> gtg, g'night folks
[02:09] <SteveR> night pelo
[02:10] <spasticteapot> Anyone else here unable to adjust their laptop's screen brightness using the hotkeys?
[02:10] <jmak642> has anyone got any experience with this?
[02:10] <mistik1> devios: what does it failed mean exactly?
[02:10] <fenixtrps3> help î use ps3 on xubuntu ,, î have phîlîps 5322 lcd tv ,, now scrren 512x480 :(
[02:11] <Hodapp> well, yes, but the laptop runs Slackware
[02:11] <medfly> i remember having (on ksh) something like "SETENV".. so i could change some stuff. what is that on bash or anything else? :P
[02:11] <mistik1> medfly: export foo
[02:11] <IdleOne> !fixres | fenixtrps3
[02:11] <ubotu> fenixtrps3: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:11] <medfly> okay thanks mistik1 :)
[02:12] <mistik1> np
[02:12] <Minute> anyone got any ideas why my sound card wouldn't be working after recently installing Ubuntu?
[02:12] <fenixtrps3> ubotu, ok try
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok try - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <jmak642> anyone? nvidia driver doesnt work?
[02:13] <Dolphin91> hey
[02:13] <Dolphin91> hey
[02:13] <Dolphin91> hey
[02:13] <mistik1> Minute: lspci|grep -i audio
[02:13] <Syrra> hay lizten
[02:13] <Syrra> I mean hi
[02:13] <mistik1> Minute: what is listed?
[02:14] <ztomic> jmak642: have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=138
[02:14] <Dolphin91> Does ubuntu work better as a server than windows?
[02:14] <Minute> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:14] <Minute> 04:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[02:14] <ztomic> Dolphin91: yes
[02:14] <Minute> I have my speakers hooked into the Creative Labs SB Audigy one
[02:15] <leladia> pls can someone tell me why http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42768/ this program isn't working?
[02:15] <jmak642> ztomic, any thread in particular?
[02:15] <mistik1> Minute: for one thing you have two sound cards installed, You need to make sure you are using the correct one
[02:15] <mistik1> Minute: which card do you want to use?
[02:15] <Dolphin91> I tried to host an ftp server with hundreds of windows ftp softwares and I'm now going to switch to linux and give it a try
[02:15] <Minute> the Creative Labs one
[02:15] <ztomic> leladia: did you make it executable?
[02:16] <Dolphin91> chmod +x
[02:16] <leladia> ztomic: yes i did
[02:16] <mistik1> Minute: oh, lsmod and check if the snd_emu10k1 is loaded
[02:16] <ztomic> Dolphin91: kewl!
[02:16] <mistik1> Minute: do NOT paste that here ;-)
[02:16] <MilitantPotato> !smart
[02:16] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[02:16] <MilitantPotato> !smartmontools
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartmontools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <medfly> how do i go about changing locale?
[02:17] <Malduin> How can I stop my display from blanking out to black all the time. I've tried messing with xset but can't get it to work.
[02:17] <leladia> ztomic: the program is suppose to take the first parameter after the progam name, assign it to the variable x and display the result
[02:17] <Syrra> Is there a reason I can't format this floppy. It says there isn't enough space?
[02:17] <Syrra> I can't mount it either, it just sits there
[02:17] <Dolphin91> Can external hard disks boot on a computer?
[02:17] <jmak642> can someone just tell me if there is a log for xorg trying to start so i can see what the problem might be?  i see it flash for just a second and then it goes away
[02:17] <MasterShrek> Syrra, floppys are old-school
[02:17] <spasticteapot> Anyone else here have laptop LCD brightness problems?
[02:17] <Dolphin91> no
[02:17] <Syrra> I'm trying to make a boot disk
[02:17] <MasterShrek> spasticteapot, what kind of problems?
[02:18] <Minute> mistikl:  looks like it is
[02:18] <nrp> spasticteapot, does the brighness gnome applet work?
[02:18] <MilitantPotato> Is there a frontend for smartmontools
[02:18] <Dolphin91> Is there a way to change the laptop screen brightness in ubuntu?
[02:18] <MasterShrek> Syrra, ill be honest, i havent used a floppy in years, i wouldnt know the first thing about formatting one in linux, used them in my *doze dayz
[02:18] <spasticteapot> I can't adjust the brightness outside of the "power management" program. Fn + Home or Fn + End used to turn the brightness up or down.
[02:18] <mistik1> Minute: then it is prolly a matter of which card is card0, aplay -l will tell you.
[02:18] <Syrra> This is not a good day
[02:18] <ztomic> leladia: check that the first line is correct. it should be #!/bin/bash
[02:18] <nrp> Dolphin91, using hotkeys, using the Gnome Brightness Applet, or using the xbacklight package
[02:19] <mistik1> Minute: I have a fix if you give me a minute to help out someone else
[02:19] <craigbass1976> Anyone buy a dell with ubuntu yet?
[02:19] <Jimdb> death to all floppies
[02:19] <Syrra> I'm going to reboot again on the off chance that the error 21 magically went away
[02:19] <Minute> sure
[02:19] <leladia> ztomic: from my studying so far i think that first line is right
[02:19] <ztomic> craigbass1976: nope but my dells work grear
[02:19] <craigbass1976> Wondering what's different on a Dell install than a regular install
[02:19] <Dolphin91> I don't understand the system structure of linux....
[02:19] <MasterShrek> craigbass1976, probably nothing too much
[02:20] <nrp> spasticteapot, try the Gnome Brightness Applet, and if that doesn't work, sudo apt-get install xbacklight.  i imagine there would be a way to map hotkeys to xbacklight, though I don't know what it is
[02:20] <craigbass1976> ztomic, I have one too, but the motherboard up and died on me, and I'm buying one preloaded
[02:20] <MasterShrek> maybe a dell logo here or there, but i even doubt that
[02:20] <ztomic> grear=great... sorry
[02:20] <Malduin> How can I stop my display from blanking (going black) every few minutes of idle time. I tried messing with xset but can't get it to stop.
[02:20] <Jimdb> dolphin91:  what do you understand about the structure of windows?
[02:20] <ztomic> leladia: pastebin.
[02:20] <nrp> craigbass1976, IIRC, theyve been pushing any changes they would have to make upstream to ubuntu, rather than just having them on their laptops
[02:20] <Dolphin91> I understand the registry and the system.
[02:21] <leladia> ztomic: what do u mean pls
[02:21] <craigbass1976> MasterShrek, I'm just thinking of new windows boxes-- the first couple days is spent cleaning off the garbage Dell and the other big companies put on them; wondering if they found a way to gunk up Ubuntu too
[02:21] <Jimdb> dolphin91: you just knew it or you had to learn it over time?
[02:21] <ztomic> leladia: I mean: try what I said before or paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:21] <MasterShrek> craigbass1976, i suppose they might, but i dont think they would haev installed any software that wouldnt be apt-get removable
[02:22] <Dolphin91> The folder names in windows made it obvious, like program files, system, documents and settings....
[02:22] <leladia> ztomic: okay
[02:22] <craigbass1976> Dolphin91, I gave up trying to figure out the registry.  Thinkof Linux as a logical file system where everything is controlled by what is in it's respective config file
[02:22] <fujin_> *everything* is a file
[02:22] <fujin_> throw whatever you knew about logical file placement out the window
[02:23] <fujin_> welcome to a world where configuration files are stored in configuration directories
[02:23] <craigbass1976> Dolphin91, such as apache being configured by /etc/apache/apache.conf
[02:23] <fujin_> and binaries are not
[02:23] <Jimdb> dolphin91:  \windows\system, \windows\system32 are not the only folders.  but you had to learn about them.  there's a slew of folders for certain files just like under linux.  once you see the overall structure of linux you'll see how obvious it is too.
[02:23] <Minute> damn, Nintendo took the crown from Sony in software sales now
[02:23] <medfly> never mind, found it. :-)
[02:23] <leladia> ztomic: what i get is a blank line then the shell prompt
[02:23] <Jimdb> dolphin91:  and don't get me started on the complexity of the registry.
[02:23] <Dolphin91> oh
[02:23] <mistik1> Minute: this is what you need to do, in the file /etc/modules.d/alsa-base add the following line:
[02:23] <spasticteapot> nrp: thanks for the suggestion.
[02:23] <nosferatuz> hi
[02:24] <mistik1> Minute: options snd-emu10k1 index=0
[02:24] <nosferatuz> nokia 6020
[02:24] <nosferatuz> como?
[02:24] <axisys> what is the best way to copy dvd to a file?
[02:24] <Dolphin91> I can make the computer completely stop working through the registry
[02:24] <craigbass1976> Jimb, I will give Microsoft one point in the filesystem area-- I noticed (when moving someone off of vista to Ubuntu) that the users' home directories are laid out a little better than in XP.  Of course, tere's all the other things in Vista that more than overshadow this...
[02:24] <razorbuzz> Is there a way to force-logoff a user who has a timed-out connection?
[02:24] <mistik1> Minute: save and exit then run: sudo update-modules
[02:24] <craigbass1976> Dolphin91, You can bork Linux by erasing a few text files
[02:24] <Jimdb> i can too, just delete the \windows\system32\config\system file.
[02:25] <nosferatuz> what nokia 6020, dku-5
[02:25] <spasticteapot> nrp: I can still adjust brightness through the power settings program. Adjusting the backlight by keys worked until about a week ago.
[02:25] <mistik1> Minute: this will force the SB to be card0 the next time you boot or load the sound modules
[02:25] <Dolphin91> Or, just have windows and ubuntu multiboot!
[02:25] <nosferatuz> plaese helpme
[02:25] <craigbass1976> Dolphin91, The nice thing about Linux is that it won't do that by itself.
[02:25] <craigbass1976> :)
[02:25] <Dolphin91> But windows doesn't let you delete the system files.
[02:25] <razorbuzz> Dolphin91, Sure it does
[02:25] <craigbass1976> Dolphin91, no, it hoses them all on it's own
[02:25] <Jimdb> dolphin91 it does and that file can be deleted quite easily
[02:25] <mistik1> Minute: got all that?
[02:26] <Dolphin91> Only if you give yourself the permissions
[02:26] <R_J> Hey guys, i havent used ubuntu for a while
[02:26] <R_J> i cant seem to remember
[02:26] <R_J> whats the command to connect to a AP
[02:26] <fujin_> iwconfig
[02:26] <craigbass1976> R_J, Welcome back
[02:26] <R_J> i removed that network manager becasue it doesnt seem to work
[02:26] <razorbuzz> ifup
[02:26] <Dolphin91> I am downloading ubuntu right now
[02:26] <R_J> thanks craig
[02:26] <R_J> i know its iwconfig
[02:26] <R_J> but is it
[02:26] <R_J> iwconfig device
[02:26] <roy> whats an AP?
[02:26] <R_J> essid
[02:26] <bur[n]e2> R_J:  iwconfig eth1 essid "blah"
[02:26] <R_J> Access Point
[02:26] <roy> k
[02:27] <roy> thanks
[02:27] <bur[n]e2> R_J: network manager rocks yer sox though
[02:27] <bur[n]e2> R_J: might want to check out wifi radar too
[02:27] <R_J> the thing with network manager was
[02:27] <Jimdb> dolphin91:  the point I was making is that it takes time to learn windows, just as it takes time to learn linux.  once you do learn either they both seem obvious and you'll see that linux does work extremely well.  and just learning linux is fun where learning windows is like having to eat an old shoe because you are starving to death.
[02:27] <nrp> spasticteapot, hmm, new update that broke it perhaps?  see if someone filed a bug report
[02:27] <craigbass1976> R_J, next time you take a vacation though, you get a spanking
[02:27] <R_J> it was like a non issue
[02:27] <R_J> had a bug
[02:27] <spasticteapot> nrp: Yes.
[02:27] <albech> g
[02:27] <spasticteapot> It just has'nt been fixed yet, and I'm rather peeved.
[02:27] <R_J> known*
[02:27] <R_J> lol craig
[02:27] <roy> jim i agree
[02:27] <bur[n]e2> R_J: what card do you have?
[02:27] <spasticteapot> Here's another bug: Laptop-mode won't go on by default when I boot.
[02:27] <R_J> i have a ralink
[02:28] <spasticteapot> (I know someone's reported that one.)
[02:28] <bur[n]e2> R_J: that use madwifi stuff?
[02:28] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[02:28] <spasticteapot> Finally, battery life just sucks.
[02:28] <razorbuzz> I have a simple question also..but for some reason can't get it.  I login remotely from work via SSH. Today, I had 3 connections quit on me ('net went down at work each time).  Running 'users' it still shows the other instances of my logins are present.  Is there a way to force them off w/out rebooting?
[02:28] <R_J> it just doesnt connect at all
[02:28] <R_J> it shows the AP's
[02:28] <R_J> i put in all the right info
[02:28] <Minute> yeah, thanks for the help mistikl
[02:28] <ztomic> leladia: it returns the command var
[02:28] <R_J> and it just trys to connect
[02:28] <R_J> so i camae here last time
[02:28] <R_J> some nice guy helped me
[02:28] <mistik1> Minute: anytime
[02:28] <R_J> but he recommended i get rid of it
[02:28] <R_J> and manually connect
[02:28] <bur[n]e2> weird
[02:29]  * bur[n]e2 loves network manager
[02:29] <wheredidrealityg> R_J: ralink usually uses wlan0 instead of eth1
[02:29] <bur[n]e2> anyway... iwconfig and a dhclient command ought to work otu for you R_J
[02:29] <R_J> yep
[02:29] <leladia> ztomic: how did u do it?
[02:29] <R_J> ok whats the dhclient command
[02:29] <mistik1> R_J: he's prolly right, GUIs are only good after you *understand* what they are doing ;)
[02:29] <ztomic> hang on. it's been a while
[02:29] <bur[n]e2> "sudo dhclient wlan0" will try to get an ip address from a dhcp server
[02:29] <leladia> ztomic: because it is not working for me
[02:29] <Syrra> Nope
[02:30] <R_J> mistik i know i wasnt doing anything wrong though
[02:30] <MilitantPotato> mistik1: Only if you have time to learn.
[02:30] <Jimdb> syrra:  what is the device name of your boot drive?
[02:30] <R_J> i mean how hard could it be
[02:30] <R_J> it is a gui rite
[02:30]  * bur[n]e2 likes network managers gui and understands but would have preferred not to
[02:30] <junkbox> i install ubuntu desktop.  I am having problems with totem and vlc. when i try to play a video file i heard the sound fine, but the picture is just a bunch of vertical lines.  any one have any suggestions for resolving this issue?
[02:30] <Syrra> Would the boot drive be the disk that root is on or
[02:30] <ztomic> leladia: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[02:31] <Jimdb> syrra:  do you know gparted very well?
[02:31] <bur[n]e2> junkbox: what filetype?
[02:31] <koshari> junkbox, nvidia card?
[02:31] <Syrra> I'm not entirely sure where grub resides
[02:31] <MilitantPotato> junkbox: change to X11
[02:31] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[02:31] <Minute> mistikl: just to check, is it modules.d or modules?  I have a modules folder already but no modules.d
[02:31] <roy> feisty to gutsy upgrade can u keep files or do u start from scratch again?
[02:31] <MilitantPotato> junkbox: as a video output
[02:31] <Syrra> eh
[02:31] <Jimdb> syrra: do an alt+f2 and type gparted
[02:31] <Lam_> if i compile a program with, say, libdvdnav-dev, would i need libdvdnav4?
[02:31] <junkbox> its a mpg file
[02:31] <mistik1> MilitantPotato: where have I heard that before?
[02:31] <junkbox> ya i think it is a nvidia card
[02:31] <Dolphin91> It seems that battlefield 1942 servers use linux
[02:31] <Syrra> kk, scanning
[02:31] <R_J> aite guyz thanks for your help, gonna go give this a shot
[02:31] <R_J> peacee
[02:32] <Syrra> what am I looking for
[02:32] <Jimdb> syrra:  it should have completed within a couple seconds.
[02:32] <leladia> ztomic: thanks for the link
[02:32] <Syrra> it did
[02:32] <Sippy> how do i install the documentation for the gcc compiler?
[02:32] <bur[n]e2> R_J: remember to "man" if you forget syntax
[02:32] <koshari> junkbox, are you using the closed bianries, if so try restarting the xservcer, cont alt backsoace
[02:32] <razorbuzz> Hah!  Got it.    'who -u'  then just kill the PIDS.  Hate those simple answers that make you rack your brain.
[02:32] <junkbox> koshari: on sec i't me double check
[02:32] <leladia> ztomic: i am checking it out
[02:32] <R_J> ok true man...i kept tring help :P
[02:32] <Lunks> roy: Unless something bad happens, you should keep all settings. Just be careful if using Treviños repository for Compiz. Remove compiz before upgrading.
[02:32] <Jimdb> syrra:  on the right hand side of that window is a list of device.  they are in a drop down list box.
[02:32] <Syrra> mmhm
[02:32] <Dolphin91> does ubuntu update itself?
[02:32] <bur[n]e2> anyone know how I can monitor who is connected via sftp?
[02:33] <mistik1> Minute: oops sorry, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:33] <Jimdb> syrra:  should be /dev/hda or /dev/sda or something like that
[02:33] <Lunks> Dolphin91: If you say so, it does. :)
[02:33] <mistik1> my bad
[02:33] <Minute> ok, thanks again =)
[02:33] <Syrra> there's sda and sdb, and it informs me that it couldn't read something called scd0 due to an unrecognised disk label or something
[02:33] <wheredidrealityg> bur[n]e2: do you mean how long they are connected/bandwidth usage, or do you mean monitor what they're doing?
[02:34] <Syrra> These are actually ide drives, iirc?
[02:34] <Jimdb> syrra:  select /dev/sda
[02:34] <bur[n]e2> wheredidrealityg: monitor who is connected currently and kick them if i like
[02:34] <Jimdb> syrra:  /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are searial ata
[02:34] <Lunks> Dolphin91: Administration/Software Sources
[02:34] <Lunks> Go to tab Updates
[02:34] <Lunks> there you'll manage ubuntu updates.
[02:34] <Jimdb> syrra:  or usb
[02:34] <razorbuzz> Damn... killed my active PID.    Is there an easy way to tell with 'who -u' which one is actually me?
[02:35] <Syrra> I'm pretty sure I'm not using Sata drives
[02:35] <Syrra> This is an old motherboard
[02:35] <Syrra> well, older
[02:35] <chipbuddy> how do i prevent compiz from starting when i log in? i'm looking at preferences->session but i don't see which command is turning compiz on.
[02:35] <crimmy> Okay, I'm having trouble getting into windows after setting up my computer to dual boot. I'm getting the message "Starting up... A disc read error has occured. Press ctrl+alt+del to restart"
[02:35] <Jimdb> syrra:  if you had a device llisted as /dev/hda or /dev/hdb then you'd be  using ide
[02:35] <ztomic> leladia: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.2
[02:35] <crimmy> Any help for that/
[02:35] <crimmy> ?*
[02:35] <Syrra> you didn't really listen there
[02:35] <Syrra> you want me to open the case?
[02:35] <Syrra> :P
[02:35] <tronyx> has anyone here upgraded their ATI drivers to the newest version which supports AIGLX?
[02:36] <junkbox> koshari: no this is an Integrated graphics
[02:36] <Jimdb> syrra:  no, i just want you to select /dev/sda
[02:36] <Minute> one last thing mistik1, do you know where I could look to learn about what I just did?
[02:36] <chipbuddy> !compiz
[02:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:36] <wheredidrealityg> burner: firestarter the firewall program lets you monitor individual ports, and which ip is connected to which port. it'll also let you look up if they have a domain registered.
[02:36] <Syrra> yep, ide
[02:36] <oriel> hi
[02:36] <Jimdb> syrra:  did you select /dev/sda?
[02:36] <Syrra> yes
[02:36] <BobbyInfinity> join #cedega
[02:36] <fxfitz> I accidently set the key binding to something I don't want in compiz manager. How do I disable that?
[02:36] <burner> wheredidrealityg: right on thanks... i have been using "w" and killing the pid if need be
[02:36] <Jimdb> syrra:  in the list below does it show you any partitions?
[02:36] <Syrra> yes
[02:36] <junkbox> MilitantPotato:  ok, i'll figure out how to do that
[02:36] <buttercups> Sippy, sudo apt-get install gcc272-docs
[02:37] <Syrra> 1 ext3 and 1 ntfs
[02:37] <wheredidrealityg> burner: no prob, it's in the repos
[02:37] <Syrra> of around 75 gigs each
[02:37] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[02:37] <Syrra> ext3 is flagged boot
[02:37] <Jimdb> syrra:  sda1 is ext3?
[02:37] <Syrra> yes
[02:37] <Jimdb> syrra:  sda2 is ntfs?
[02:37] <Syrra> yep
[02:37] <michael_> anyone have any problems with their sound card not working? says GStreamer plugin and/or device not found
[02:38] <Jimdb> syrra:  and only those two partitions are listed/
[02:38] <boontoo> hmm
[02:38] <boontoo> anyone having troubles upgrading?
[02:38] <Jimdb> syrra:  i'm only interested in the partitions listed under /dev/sda...i haven't gotten to /dev/sdb
[02:38] <Dolphin91> how many volts does ubuntu use
[02:39] <boontoo> lol
[02:39] <tomd123> too much
[02:39] <burner> Dolphin91: volts?
[02:39] <Syrra> sda1 is /home/syrra
[02:39]  * burner runs at 90 watts
[02:39] <tomd123> omg
[02:39] <boontoo> you mean amps
[02:39] <Syrra> yes
[02:39] <Jimdb> syrra:  ok, select /dev/sdb
[02:39] <boontoo> how many amps does the computer use
[02:39] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: i upgraded, then found it felt bloated, so clean installed hehe.
[02:39] <Syrra> hai, hai
[02:39] <oriel> who can help me? My stardict isnt work!!
[02:39] <Jimdb> syrra:  did you do that and do you see any partitions listed?
[02:40] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: im having a problem with download speeds they are going like very slow
[02:40] <Syrra> five paritions
[02:40] <crimmy> Any help...?
[02:40] <Jimdb> syrra:  tell me which ones they are
[02:40] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: that happened to me too, which server are you connected to?
[02:40] <Syrra> fat32, ext3 flagged boot, extended, ext3, linux swap
[02:40] <oriel> who can help me? My stardict isnt work!! it isnt find dict lib
[02:40] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: not sure hehe
[02:40] <ztomic> leladia: echo $1
[02:40] <chipbuddy> how do i prevent compiz from starting when i log in? i'm looking at preferences->session but i don't see which command is turning compiz on.
[02:41] <Jimdb> syrra:  your boot drive is /dev/sdb.
[02:41] <Jimdb> syrra:  is the fat32 listed first?
[02:41] <Syrra> yes
[02:41] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: go to administration>software sources. what does Download From: say?
[02:41] <Jimdb> syrra:  click on it and tell me if it is in grey text or black text.
[02:41] <Jimdb> syrra:  and tell me what size it is
[02:41] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: main server
[02:42] <Syrra> errr? it's black text and it's 20 gigs. I used it for transferring stuff between windows and linux, iirc
[02:42] <Jimdb> syrra:  the mount point for the ext3 is /     ?
[02:42] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: the main server can get bogged down depending on the time of day.  mine took around an hour and a half in total off the main server :(
[02:42] <oriel> who can help me? My stardict isnt work!! it isnt find dict lib. MY dict lib is at /usr/share/stardict/dic  ,but it cant find it
[02:42] <Syrra> where would it say that? should be
[02:43] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: just because the main server is closer, doesn't mean it's faster if more people are connected to it.
[02:43] <Jimdb> syrra:  right click on it and a menu will pop up.
[02:43] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: well i have 50kbps connection so now its going at 5000 bytes and i live in melbourne aus
[02:43] <Jimdb> syrra:  does it have a "mount on" choice and is it black or grayed out?
[02:43] <Syrra> black text
[02:43] <Syrra> I don't see anything about mount on
[02:44] <wheredidrealityg> wheredidrealityg: i believe "main server" is run from the U.S., which could explain why. I'm not aware of if they have an australian server, one sec (checking).
[02:44] <Syrra> status is unmounted
[02:44] <Jimdb> syrra:  does it say "unmount"?
[02:44] <oriel> who can help me? My stardict isnt work!! it isnt find dict lib. MY dict lib is at /usr/share/stardict/dic  ,but it cant find it
[02:44] <michael_> well if anyone has experience with gstreamer plugin or sound card issues pls contact me, I'll check the web for now
[02:44] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[02:44] <chipbuddy> how do i prevent compiz from starting when i log in? i'm looking at preferences->session but i don't see which command is turning compiz on.
[02:44] <ztomic> thanx michael_
[02:44] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: there are six australian servers. it's kind of a little late now that you've already started the upgrade, but you can change your "main server" to another australian based one afterwards.
[02:45] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg:  okay
[02:45] <boontoo> thanks
[02:45] <wheredidrealityg> :)
[02:45] <oriel> who can help me? My stardict isnt work!! it isnt find dict lib. MY dict lib is at /usr/share/stardict/dic  ,but it cant find it!  mu ubuntu is 7.10
[02:45] <Syrra> this is frustrating
[02:46] <Jimdb> syrra:  in the /boot folder under grub is your menu.lst file.  it contains the information that your bootloader is using to mount your hard drive.
[02:46] <Jimdb> syrra:  in /boot/grub is a file called menu.lst
[02:46] <P_Kable> Does anybody know if my webcam creative live! motion is compatible with Linux ?
[02:46] <Jimdb> syrra:  that file is a text file and it has the settings to tell grub which drive to try to boot from.
[02:46] <crimmy> =/
[02:46] <michael_> um np I guess, hehe
[02:46] <crimmy> okay then.
[02:46] <tronyx> has anyone upgrade their ATI drivers to 8.42.3 fglrx?
[02:47] <Syrra> I knew that part
[02:47] <Jimdb> syrra:  you are getting the error 21 either because your partition is corrupt, your file system is corrupt, that file is incorrectly telling us which drive is the drive to boot from.
[02:47] <Jimdb> syrra:  but you said earlier that you didn't know how to find which drive is the the one with your grub on it.
[02:47] <snkmad> how do i remove my cdrom from repo sources?
[02:47] <roy> kable i second the question webcam creative will it work on Ubuntu
[02:48] <oriel> 有会华语的吗？
[02:48] <wheredidrealityg> snkmad: administration> software sources. click the checkbox beside the cdrom.
[02:48] <Syrra> my hard drive is messed up
[02:48] <Syrra> )(@#
[02:48] <Syrra> I just installed gibbon, though
[02:48] <fixit1007> Installation problem, want dual boot XP & Ubuntu Good day - While trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Latitude  (laptop) w/60Gig HD, install runs very slow and then gets stuck in a loop when partitioner runs, any way around this
[02:48] <Syrra> like, when it came out
[02:48] <Jimdb> syrra: did you run fsck /dev/hdb1?
[02:49] <dwf_starband> what is the problem when windows can view your samba shares but ubuntu cant?
[02:49] <fixit1007> Installation problem, want dual boot XP & Ubuntu Good day - While trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Latitude  (laptop) w/60Gig HD, install runs very slow and then gets stuck in a loop when partitioner runs, any way around this
[02:49] <Syrra> Not yet, but I've had problems with the drive before, now that I remember
[02:49] <oriel> 有会华语的吗？
[02:50] <oriel> 有会华语的吗？
[02:50] <FluxD> !cn | oriel
[02:50] <ubotu> oriel: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[02:50] <ztomic> oi!
[02:50] <oriel> thanks
[02:50] <Syrra> It says the device is busy
[02:50] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: 'E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room, E:Error occurred while processing python2.5 (NewVersion1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.' =(
[02:50] <IdleOne> need some help with Epiphany http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42692/
[02:51] <Jimdb> syrra:  you can open a terminal while on the livecd and you can run the fsck /dev/hdb1 to see if it finds issues.  but if you have a faulty hdd you should expect issues, and possibly irrecoverable issues.
[02:51] <Jimdb> syrra:  close gparted and try again.
[02:51] <MorelOrel> post-post-haste
[02:51] <Syrra> I did
[02:51] <oldsickclown> Hello all, who here knows how to get MySql running if I couldn't get it from the ubuntu documentation
[02:51] <MorelOrel> I can't find the .exe program files in ubuntu!
[02:51] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: looks like a perfect time to switch servers. what version are you upgrading from?
[02:51] <Syrra> I think the hard drive is died, I'm glad I just got a new /home
[02:52] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: i think 7.04?
[02:52] <oriel> #ubuntu-cn
[02:52] <Jimdb> syrra: who makes the drive?
[02:52] <Syrra> Is there a way to tell that without pulling it out?
[02:52] <boontoo> sorry i havent been using ubuntu for about 2 months my otherpartitions just got submerged in crap
[02:52] <MorelOrel> try a complete repartitioning and reformatting to the drive
[02:52] <Jimdb> syrra:  flashlight and peek in.
[02:52] <MorelOrel> using FDISK dos
[02:52] <ztomic> MorelOrel: ouch!
[02:52] <MilitantPotato> junkbox: Sorry didn't know you where asking how to.   VLC>Settings>Preferences> Check Advanced Options  Open Video, then click Output Modules, choose X11, if it's on X11, try XVideo, if that fails try OpenGL
[02:52] <Jimdb> syrra:  reboot and go into the bios and look at the drive model number
[02:52] <oldsickclown> dad@HPToilet:~$ sudo mysqladmin -u root password newrootsqlpassword
[02:52] <oldsickclown> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[02:52] <oldsickclown> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[02:52] <oldsickclown> dad@HPToilet:~$
[02:52] <Syrra> kk, bbs
[02:53] <oldsickclown> help
[02:53] <Syrra> thanks btw
[02:53] <mneptok> !pastebin > oldsickclown
[02:53] <Syrra> really, thanks a lot
[02:53] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: maybe you should have done a general upgrade before a dist-upgrade. are you upgrading using the GUI or CLI?
[02:53] <gvsa123> still can't get my webcam to work
[02:53] <MorelOrel> !pastebin? what is this?
[02:53] <oldsickclown> this is not a paste bin?
[02:53] <fixit1007> Installation problem  While trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell Latitude  (laptop) w/60Gig HD, install runs very slow and then gets stuck in a loop when partitioner runs, any way around this
[02:53] <MorelOrel> what's the difference between server ubuntu and desktop ubuntu?
[02:53] <adam300> oldsickclown is mysql running?
[02:54] <oldsickclown> yes
[02:54] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: gui
[02:54] <oldsickclown> hello adam
[02:54] <adam300> oldsickclown hello
[02:54] <ztomic> guys like this need to play a little more.
[02:54] <kelsin> MorelOrel: the kernel sometimes and the packages installed at first
[02:54] <adam300> oldsickclown can you log in to mysql directly?
[02:54] <oldsickclown> I have no idea how.
[02:54] <ztomic> no help when it's futile.
[02:54] <adam300> sudo mysql -u root -p whatever
[02:54] <oldsickclown> I didn't give it an admin
[02:54] <mneptok> oldsickclown: mysqladmin -u root
[02:54] <gvsa123> can anyone help with my webcam? it shows up as 041e:401a creative technology, ltd
[02:54] <MorelOrel> are there server utilities on the server ubuntu?
[02:54] <monkeyBox> Ok, I'm having this really annoying problem w/ my video display.  I keep seeing green "sparkling" dots in various places, and when I try to run certain graphics intensive programs, the screen just goes black for a couple of seconds.  What could be causing this?
[02:55] <oldsickclown> I'll try now
[02:55] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: try a <sudo apt-get -f install>, see if that helps anything.
[02:55] <adam300> monkeyBox epilepsy
[02:55] <fixit1007> mdwith, are you at Uof L
[02:55] <mdwith> anybody know how to install 7.10 w/ just the text interface?
[02:55] <wheredidrealityg> MorelOrel: there's no GUI on ubuntu server edition. it's command line only unless you install a display manager.
[02:56] <mdwith> yep :)
[02:56] <mdwith> why do you ask?
[02:56] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: same error
[02:56] <oldsickclown> Failed again
[02:56] <monkeyBox> adam300:  har har.    The green dots are on the screen, and they follow the graphic (ie, if I move a window around they follow it)
[02:56] <ztomic> monkeyBox: how much mem? vid/system.
[02:56] <fixit1007> Im in New Albany, just curious
[02:56] <michael_> real quick, how do you reg so you can pst?
[02:56] <tators> how do you exit the man in shell
[02:56] <wheredidrealityg> tators: q
[02:56] <mdwith> how do you know where we are?
[02:56] <MilitantPotato> ?
[02:56] <tators> thanks
[02:56] <MorelOrel> quitting ubuntu server download
[02:57] <MilitantPotato> another potato?
[02:57] <adam300> oldsickclown did you try sudo mysql -u root -p password ?
[02:57] <fixit1007> saw your server info when you can in
[02:57] <mdwith> o
[02:57] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  768M system..  how do I find out my video memory?
[02:57] <adam300> oldsickclown next I would just try sudo mysql
[02:57] <fixit1007> mdwith, your question I think the server addition is text, no GUI
[02:58] <oldsickclown> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[02:58] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: any ideas? maybe i should reboot
[02:58] <kslater> after hitting a bug with libnss-ldap and client auth and removing the packages, I can't get any account to login in init mode 5. Any ideas of something to try short of reinstall?
[02:58] <adam300> it sounds like your password has changed
[02:58] <mdwith> hmm, i kinda want xubuntu, cause its an old laptop
[02:58] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: try <sudo dpkg --configure --pending>
[02:58] <monkeyBox> My video card is:  "nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x"
[02:58] <oldsickclown> that's odd I just downloaded it
[02:59] <oldsickclown> can I remove it and start over?
[02:59] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: no dice
[02:59] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[02:59] <ztomic> monkeyBox: you could #lspci and find it on the net.
[02:59] <fixit1007> Im trying to get Ubuntu on a Dell Latitude, but loops when partitioner starts
[02:59] <adam300> oldsickclown you mean you just downloaded mysql?
[02:59] <oldsickclown> yes
[02:59] <adam300> oldsickclown alright well you can reset it
[03:00] <ztomic> monkey: eww! nice!
[03:00] <mdwith> fixit1007: are you already partitioned how you want it?
[03:00] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: I don't think restarting would hurt anything, but I think you should upgrade all of your current packages to up-to-date feisty ones before attempting gutsy ones.
[03:00] <adam300> oldsickclown kill the current mysql process and restart it with /usr/bin/safe_mysql --skip-grant-tables&
[03:00] <MorelOrel> how do you run windows games on ubuntu?
[03:00] <tators> how do I make my /var/www writable -- its only rwx for root, even tho its my local machine, I don't know how ot log in as root so I can save and write on the gui
[03:01] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: yeh i guess so, it just feels like some anvil has been dropped on my laptop so brb restart time
[03:01] <fiXXXerMet> How do I modprobe for sata drives?
[03:01] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  looks like "maximum memory" is 128MB
[03:01] <ztomic> monkeyBox: you said you had 768?
[03:01] <gladier> hey guys ive managed to loose all of the std ubuntu GPG keys while upgrading to gutsy
[03:01] <junkbox> MilitantPotato:  Yes, THANK YOU.  it works now.
[03:01] <wheredidrealityg> MorelOrel: Wine is a free, not entirely perfect yet way. Cedega you pay a subscription, but works very well.
[03:01] <DuoJet> i have a newbie issue- I have somehow disabled the ability to move and resize windows, except by using the taskbar. I have search everywhere for this feature. May I have a hint?
[03:01] <junkbox> MilitantPotato:  a million thanks man
[03:01] <oldsickclown> I'm new how do I kill it  I restarted it like the documentation page said
[03:01] <fluxxball> Hey'a. Is there a default su password when I am booting off a CD?
[03:01] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  yeah, 768 system memory
[03:02] <W4gn3r> someone pliz help me
[03:02] <ztomic> monkeyBox: if you have 128 than thats your problem
[03:02] <MorelOrel> what about cadega cvs?
[03:02] <adam300> oldsickclown ps aux | grep mysql
[03:02] <Hodapp> pliz?
[03:02] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  what do you mean?
[03:02] <adam300> find the pid for mysql
[03:02] <ztomic> monkeyBox: doh!
[03:02] <tators> how do I make my /var/www writable -- its only rwx for root, even tho its my local machine, I don't know how ot log in as root so I can save and write on the gui
[03:02] <fiXXXerMet> fluxxball: No - do "sudo -s" to get root, or "sudo command" to execute a command as root.
[03:02] <tronyx> i just upgraded my ATI drivers using the info found here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  is there any way I can make sure that I have the driver version I want installed and running?
[03:02] <gladier> tators : chmod 777 /var/www -R
[03:02] <adam300> oldsickclown our you can try /etc/inet.d/mysqld stop
[03:03] <ztomic> monkeyBox: do you have 128 or 768? of system mem?
[03:03] <MilitantPotato> junkbox: no problem :)
[03:03] <monkeyBox> ztomic 768 system memory
[03:03] <gvsa123> help with my webcam please.... i already have spca5xx installed, and it shows up with lsusb as 041e:401a, but the applications cannot find anything on /dev/video0
[03:03] <wheredidrealityg> w4gn3r: we can't help you unless you specify your problem.
[03:03] <tators> gladier:still can't save on the gui
[03:03] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: same problem =(
[03:03] <qwexer> michael_ is now qwexer btw
[03:03] <monkeyBox> I was saying my graphics card was 128
[03:03] <tators> ie file...save
[03:03] <livingtm> I just did an update on a remote machine via Vino, then rebooted.. now i cant log in from remote (vino isnt started until the user logs in?) Am I hosed?!?
[03:03] <Hodapp> W4gn3r: did you have a question or something?
[03:03] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce4ti.html
[03:03] <gladier> tators did you run it as sudo?
[03:04] <Whisperkiller> how do i go about changing my display from my agp card to my onboard video for my MB?
[03:04] <ztomic> monkeyBox: then memory doesnt sound to be your problem
[03:04] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: what's in your repo list? do you have any unsupported repositories in there?
[03:04] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: can i sudo gedit the apt.conf file?
[03:04] <tators> yes
[03:04] <W4gn3r> when I boot the liveCD ubuntu 7.10 x32, I enter the desktop, but the upside and downside bars aren't there!
[03:04] <ztomic> monkeyBox: does the green stuff happen all the time?
[03:04] <oldsickclown> this is what I got from the first one
[03:04] <oldsickclown> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
[03:04] <oldsickclown> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld.
[03:04] <oldsickclown> dad@HPToilet:~$ ps aux | grep mysql
[03:04] <oldsickclown> root     10537  0.0  0.2   3708  1480 pts/0    S    23:00   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bi n/mysqld_safe
[03:04] <oldsickclown> mysql    10598  0.0  3.2 126404 16988 pts/0    Sl   23:00   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysql d --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysql d/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[03:04] <oldsickclown> root     10599  0.0  0.1   2652   728 pts/0    S    23:00   0:00 logger -p daemo n.err -t mysqld_safe -i -t mysqld
[03:04] <Hodapp> x32 = x86 32-bit?
[03:04] <oldsickclown> dad      10734  0.0  0.1   2876   792 pts/0    R+   23:03   0:00 grep mysql
[03:05] <Hodapp> oldsickclown: USE A PASTEBIN!
[03:05] <MilitantPotato> !pastebin | oldsickclown
[03:05] <ubotu> oldsickclown: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:05] <monkeyBox> ztomic:  not all the time,  seems to happen after the computer has been on for awhile
[03:05] <ztomic> oldsickclown: !!!
[03:05] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: do you mean your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:05] <boontoo> yeh
[03:05]  * Hodapp runs with the fire extinguisher and puts out ztomic's flaming modem
[03:05] <oldsickclown> keep whining about it
[03:05] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: change the apt cache limit like in debian?
[03:05] <monkeyBox> I wonder,  maybe the gpu is overheating?
[03:05] <Whisperkiller> ok well get rude and no one will help you clownboy
[03:06] <oldsickclown> who gives
[03:06] <W4gn3r> when I boot the liveCD ubuntu 7.10 x32, I enter the desktop, but the upside and downside bars aren't there!
[03:06] <W4gn3r> someone pliz
[03:06] <adam300> oldsickclown you should be able to log into mysql if you are in safe
[03:06] <Whisperkiller> then leave loser
[03:06] <oldsickclown> get off your high horse
[03:06] <adam300> sudo mysql
[03:06] <fixit1007> Installlation on Dell laptop 60Gig HD stops when partitioner runs
[03:06] <oldsickclown> thanks adam
[03:06] <ztomic> Hodapp: can kiss my "a" for mistaking my puncuation
[03:06] <doctavus> hello guys, just got in here and had a question when you guys are ready
[03:06] <adam300> np
[03:06] <OpenSorce> w4ett, you have tried moving your mouse to where they should be yeah? I had the same issue and then I realized it had my resolution wrong
[03:07] <Hodapp> ztomic: what?
[03:07] <Lunks> How to make F-Spot 'import' by default instead of eog (or gthumb, dunno which one actually is) when inserting a camera card on my card reader?
[03:07] <MilitantPotato> oldsickclown:  we all give, stop spamming.
[03:07] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: i've not had to do that, so i'm not sure of the proper procedure, but if you've done it in debian, you should be able to do it in ubuntu.
[03:07] <OpenSorce> stupid nick-complete
[03:07] <fixit1007> Help please, Installlation on Dell laptop 60Gig HD stops when partitioner runs
[03:07] <Scunizi> !ask | doctavus
[03:07] <ubotu> doctavus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <ztomic> * Hodapp runs with the fire extinguisher and puts out ztomic's flaming modem
[03:07] <OpenSorce> W4gn3r, you have tried moving your mouse to where they should be yeah? I had the same issue and then I realized it had my resolution wrong
[03:07] <oldsickclown> potatoe your real cool
[03:07] <ztomic> little joke
[03:07] <doctavus> *anyone*  I installed ubuntu 7.10 today and still configuring some stuff, one thing I need to do is su in the terminal, but the password I thought root was is not working
[03:07] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: keeps saying dynamic MMap ran outa room so i guess ill give it a shot
[03:08] <doctavus> *anyone* curious how i change it or what not
[03:08] <MilitantPotato> !topic
[03:08] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:08] <W4gn3r> OpenSorce: the resolution is OK, I did it
[03:08] <Scunizi> !root | doctavus
[03:08] <ubotu> doctavus: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:08] <W4gn3r> OpenSorce: the resolution is OK, I did it before enter jhere
[03:08] <adam300> doctavus the root account is weird in ubunut
[03:08] <ztomic> oh hell! I was pickin' on Hodapp
[03:08] <doctavus> ty ubotu, looking at it now
[03:08] <adam300> doctavus you can do sudo passwd
[03:08] <fixit1007> the su password is the password that was set at installation
[03:08] <doctavus> *fixit* thats what i type in
[03:08] <doctavus> but could be my regular user account
[03:08] <leladia> pls how do i search for all the capital letters in a file?
[03:09] <adam300> doctavus it's for your regular account
[03:09] <Scunizi> doctavus: to do things as root preferace your command with sudo.
[03:09] <oldsickclown> hey adam that worked you're the best
[03:09] <CoasterMaster> whooo earthquake
[03:09] <adam300> most things in ubuntu that root does are done with sudo from sudo enable account
[03:09] <ztomic> doctavus: ubotu loves you
[03:09] <doctavus> wow ok
[03:10] <doctavus> so used to doing su root years back i think
[03:10] <adam300> doctavus yeah me too so the work around is to sudo passwd
[03:10] <tronyx> i just upgraded my ATI drivers using the info found here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  is there any way I can make sure that I have the driver version I want installed and running?
[03:10] <doctavus> cool, man i'm falling in love with linux again
[03:10] <adam300> and set a new root password then it basically acts the same
[03:10] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: fglrxinfo
[03:10] <adam300> sometimes you might want to use su - instead of just su though
[03:11] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: do you know the file /etc/apt/apt.conf is not there on ubuntu as it is in debian? is it renamed or just not there till you put it there
[03:11] <W4gn3r> someone here had a problem with ubuntu 7.10 liveCD and the panels?
[03:11] <tronyx> is OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[03:11] <tronyx>  what I'm looking for?
[03:11] <corevette> anyone in silicon valley feel the earthquake?
[03:11] <doctavus> *all that helped* that worked !!!
[03:11] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if Device has driver "fglrx"
[03:11] <WindowsSux> Does anyone in hear know how to help me get my wireless working for a dell latitude d420? i would be so happy
[03:11] <doctavus> I will need to remember that
[03:11] <dcstimm> hey guys, How do I disable gdm and have a verbose boot? I hate not being able to ctrl + alt + backspace back to a commandline prompt
[03:12] <MilitantPotato> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.    OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.0.6958 Release)
[03:12] <ztomic> corevette: best qujestion I've heard all night!
[03:12] <qwexer> well I've found my question verbatim on the web but no answer to it, hehe any free to answer yet? gstreamer sound card problems
[03:12] <adam300> dcstimm you should be able to ctrl-alt F2 to a prompt
[03:12] <corevette> ztomic: http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/122-37.htm
[03:12] <ztomic> pardon the speeling!
[03:12] <oldsickclown> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42771/
[03:12] <dcstimm> Adam300, I don't want that
[03:12] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: try apt.conf.d
[03:12] <jhonovich1> i want to upgrade from dapper, i am reading articles that says i must accept all software updates first, is that the case, i don't want some of these updates like dvd+rw tools
[03:12] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: looks like you have the 8.37,6 drivers installed
[03:12] <tronyx> Militantpotato i suppose i was looking to find out if i need to do anything else, it seemed almost too simple
[03:12] <chuy_max> Hi, I can mount my hard drive, I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb2, etc etc.
[03:12] <bytchn^ncryptn> hai my sound works fine in my ubuntu, but i create new user account for the kidz and no sound works, anyone know how i can fix it
[03:12] <dcstimm> Adam300, I want to be able to kill X and go to a prompt, no gdm
[03:12] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: are you trying to use compiz?
[03:12] <chuy_max> dmesg|tail gives me this: EXT3-fs: unsupported inode size: 0
[03:12] <tronyx> I can use compiz fine
[03:12] <chuy_max> does it has a solution? :S
[03:13] <Hodapp> dcstimm: you'll need to use a different runlevel, and you can start X with 'startx'
[03:13] <leladia> pls how do i get the number of capital letters in a file?
[03:13] <chuy_max> I can't mount my hard drive
[03:13] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: type glrxinfo grep | direct
[03:13] <ztomic> corevette: I'm glad I don't live in Cali.
[03:13] <Lunks> !pastebin
[03:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <Hodapp> leladia: 'man grep'; I don't know much else
[03:13] <dcstimm> Hodapp, yeah that is what I want.. How do I change that?
[03:13] <corevette> ztomic: they're fun some of the time, it was a 5.6
[03:13] <drifterz> Can someone tell me if there is a frostwire package in the repositories? I am getting mixed answers about this and can't find it in adept.
[03:13] <adam300> Hodapp man sed
[03:13] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: fixed it xD i think hehe
[03:13] <Hodapp> dcstimm: look in /etc/inittab . . . I don't know much though
[03:14] <juan> does ubuntu use the -ck patchset, if not why not?
[03:14] <Hodapp> adam300: why tell me?
[03:14] <tronyx> MilitantPotato bash: glrxinfo: command not found
[03:14] <|jason|> when attempting to update my copy of kubuntu using adept -- im getting the following error : There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[03:14] <|jason|> where to go from here?
[03:14] <willskills> hi guys - if I use rdesktop to open a windows RDP, with -f, for fullscreen, how do I end that session?
[03:14] <ztomic> corevette: family ok? I worry 'bout you guys.
[03:14] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: awesome! remember to change your server :)
[03:14] <Hodapp> drifterz: why not just grab the package from the website? It's just Java.
[03:14] <adam300> hodapp i got mixed up
[03:14] <MilitantPotato> tronyx: yea sorry, type-o'd that one it's     glxinfo |grep direct
[03:14] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: it was /etc/apt/apt.conf it opens up as a blank document but just drop APT::Cache-Limit 20000000; in there then sudo apt-get update hhe
[03:14] <goppp> hey did you just feel an earth quake in san jose
[03:14] <boontoo> yeh will do
[03:14] <goppp> 5.6 MAG QUAKE KNOCKS SAN JOSE...
[03:14] <goppp> did you peopel feel it
[03:14] <Hodapp> oh... sorry
[03:14] <bytchn^ncryptn> hai my sound works fine in my ubuntu, but i create new user account for the kidz and no sound works, anyone know how i can fix it
[03:14] <corevette> goppp: i'm there, i felt it
[03:14]  * Hodapp turns down his music
[03:14] <corevette> i'm in mountain view ztomic
[03:14] <drifterz> hodapp: I will if I have to but I would prefer using apt
[03:15] <leladia> pls how do i knw those userids in the system that have never being used?
[03:15] <goppp> corevette but your power didn't go out
[03:15] <WindowsSux> Does anyone in hear know how to help me get my wireless working for a dell latitude d420? i would be so happy
[03:15] <tronyx> militantpotato, i sent you a PM with the results
[03:15] <ztomic> corevette: I felt nothing here in texas
[03:15] <corevette> goppp: nope it's still up herei n mountain view, cell phone (sprint) is down
[03:16] <qwexer> where in tx ztomic?
[03:16] <jhonovich1> can someone point me to a reference that lists the new features in each ubuntu release? i am searching but can't find clear explanations amongst them
[03:16] <Hodapp> drifterz: meh. I would find it just as easy to do it directly and use included scripts... it doesn't really even need to install anything and bother apt-get
[03:16] <ztomic> qwexer: austin
[03:16] <W4gn3r> someone here had a problem with ubuntu 7.10 liveCD and the top and bottom panels??
[03:16] <qwexer> just moved back to sin city from dfw
[03:17] <ztomic> qwexer: sin? oh heck! this is the city of love! you mean you moved to austin right?
[03:17] <WindowsSux> how do i run xp in a virtual window?
[03:17] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: upgrade going smoothly now?
[03:17] <qwexer> ztomic: no Las Vegas baby , hehe
[03:18] <drifterz> Here's another one, I want to download music, legal of course, using a p2p client, but not a torrent client. What should I use besides frostwire?
[03:18] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: yeh turns out the fastest server for me is in japan
[03:18] <boontoo> heh
[03:18] <boontoo> australia servers must be choked atm
[03:18] <ztomic> qwexer: oh hell! LV is cool too./
[03:18] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: all those fiber optics they have, they can spare the bandwidth hehe.
[03:18] <Hodapp> drifterz: there isn't much legal music on P2P, I've found.
[03:18] <ztomic> I soulda known
[03:18] <qwexer> ztomic: I do miss the humidity and green though
[03:18] <shelby> hi I have ubuntu 7.10 on a toshiba satellite a100 laptop with hda intel sound . my sound works fine, in my main user account, yesterday i create a new account for the kids to play games in and the sound doesnt work, when i try to use volume control in gnome panel it says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." anyone know how 2 fix
[03:19] <Hodapp> drifterz: look to netlabels like soundlift or cnet music if you want legal music.
[03:19] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: that is true, australia will get really super cool internet in the near future depending on the next election
[03:19] <mistik1> shelby: make sure they are in the audio group
[03:19] <shelby> boontoo, orly?
[03:19] <mistik1> iirc
[03:19] <ztomic> qwexer: humidity kills me... I been here all my life and I still cant hack it.
[03:19] <dcstimm> how do you enable compiz cube on ubuntu when you have it checked off?
[03:19] <boontoo> shelby: apparently so
[03:19] <qwexer> shelby: I'm having the same prob but with the main user, I'll tell ya if I hear anything
[03:19] <MorelOrel> what kind of viruses does linux get?
[03:19] <drifterz> hodapp: ya but I really don't care about that. There managers and record labels take most the money. If you want to support an artist go to there concerts.
[03:19] <ztomic> a little beer helps though
[03:20] <boontoo> shelby: try alsaconfig
[03:20] <Hodapp> drifterz: So do you want legal music or illegal?
[03:20] <wheredidrealityg> dcstimm: hold down ctrl-alt and left click.
[03:20] <Scunizi> MorelOrel: nothing that I'm aware of.
[03:20] <chuy_max> hi, I can't mount my hard disk drive any more :S, when I try to mount it I get an error that tells me to look at dmesg|tail, and it gives me this error: EXT3-fs: unsupported inode size: 0. Can anyone help me out with this problem?
[03:20] <mistik1> boontoo: he said sound was working for the main user
[03:20] <ztomic> beeeeeeeer!
[03:20] <qwexer> ztomic: ya but your hum sucks, ours was only like 40-60 except during storms
[03:20] <drifterz> Hodapp: P2P music ;)
[03:20] <dcstimm> wheredidrealityg, its only one sided, well two sided
[03:20] <shelby> thnx mistik1 i look into iut
[03:20] <dcstimm> wheredidrealityg, how do I make it a cube?
[03:20] <MorelOrel> can you compile NDS homebrew in ubuntu?
[03:20] <techjim> anyone fix the 7.10 firewire ipod problems that cropped up in the update?
[03:20] <ztomic> qwexer: hehe
[03:21] <wheredidrealityg> dcstimm: one moment
[03:21] <WindowsSux> how do i run xp in a virtual window?
[03:21] <boontoo> shelby: alsamixer sorry maybe its muted or something?
[03:21] <Hodapp> drifterz: P2P music, I've found, is a lot of illegal crap, most of which isn't even worth downloading.
[03:21] <shelby> boontoo, do u mean alsamixer? alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:21] <ztomic> gettin a beeeeer now
[03:21] <WindowsSux> Does anyone in hear know how to help me get my wireless working for a dell latitude d420? i would be so happy
[03:21] <dcstimm> wheredidrealityg, got it nevermind
[03:21] <boontoo> shelby: is that in your account with working sound or the new one you just made for the kids
[03:21] <wheredidrealityg> dcstimm: k, it has to do with number of virtual desktops.
[03:21] <MorelOrel> can nintendo DS homebrew binaries be compiled in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Flicker> Hello.
[03:21] <shelby> boontoo, in the one i just made. alsamixer works fine in my main acc
[03:22] <wheredidrealityg> shelby: are the accounts using different kernels?
[03:22] <Flicker> Guys i have just installed ubuntu but i set up the Name Username and the computer name all wrong.. is there any way to bring that dialog back up? the one i got during setup?
[03:22] <drifterz> Hodapp: so you use a P2P client you would recommend?
[03:22] <dcstimm> wheredidrealityg, how do I get a top and bottom to my cube?
[03:22] <shelby> wheredidrealityg, no i dont think so :-S i just mnade the acc with adduser
[03:22] <ztomic> WindowsSux: try ndswrapper
[03:22] <boontoo> shelby: if its any help, its probably not but ubuntu doesnt look to kindly on hda intel, ive got one and i cant get sound at all without headphones
[03:22] <qwexer> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing. anyone explain that error to me?
[03:22] <MorelOrel> It takes forever to find p2p music worth downloading.
[03:22] <wheredidrealityg> dcstimm: you can only have a top and bottom as a picture, not as a usable desktop.
[03:22] <WindowsSux> hey ztomic whats up?
[03:23] <ztomic> WindowsSux: thats what
[03:23] <Jimdb> how old is the toshiba 100 notebook?
[03:23] <Hodapp> drifterz: I used to use Limewire... but at the moment I mostly get music legally from artists who release it freely or who are on sites that actually give them a decent cut of the profit.
[03:23] <doctavus> *all* Ok how do you get the applications to show on the panel below? I click on something besides the hide all windows and now I can't see anything that is running
[03:23] <twoshadetod> what is the protocol/app to share calenders.  something like if someone at a job wants to book sales and needs to see the sales person's schedule
[03:23] <doctavus> *all* even after a reboot
[03:23] <shelby> boontoo, i've always managed to get hda sound working sweet on ubuntu 8-] have u tried adding the model option to alsa-base file
[03:23] <Hodapp> drifterz: If I absolutely must acquire a song that isn't available on those routes, I might use allofmp3 or a torrent.
[03:23] <Hodapp> twoshadetod: caldav maybe?
[03:23] <to1> HEY>>>>
[03:23] <boontoo> shelby: yeh i get awsome sound threw headphones just no PC speaker sound after i updated the kernel
[03:23] <boontoo> hehe
[03:23] <darkmatter> yo can anyone help me find the windows channel
[03:23] <drifterz> MorelOrel: I know it's brutal, I would use a torrent site if I could find a decent one. I like full albums, mostly.
[03:24] <WindowsSux> where do i get ndswrapper?
[03:24] <w4ett> OpenSorce:  NP on the nick-complete...just got home from work 8)
[03:24] <boontoo> im pretty sure this next update will fix it
[03:24] <drifterz> Hodapp: OK thanks
[03:24] <twoshadetod> Hodapp, thanks i think this is what i  need :)
[03:24] <darkmatter> can anyone help me
[03:24] <to1> when i boot my comp the screen shows ----Grub  then nothing else
[03:24] <shelby> boontoo, hrmmm weird 8-] have you tried asking the dudes in #alsa, they are usually pretty switched on, (when they're not afk)
[03:24] <ztomic> WindowsSux: google
[03:24] <boontoo> shelby: will do =)
[03:24] <to1> when i boot my comp the screen shows ----Grub  then nothing else
[03:24] <DerangedDingo> to1: does it continue to boot ubuntu or does it just hide the GRUB menu?
[03:24] <ztomic> im a smart-ass
[03:25] <koshari> tol have you changed the disk config?
[03:25] <darkmatter> im looking for a torrent that has good windows xp pro x64
[03:25] <Konam> hi
[03:25] <Flicker> Anyone?
[03:25] <Flicker> any help?
[03:25] <Dekkard> peeps that need help..just ask yer question..
[03:25] <ztomic> Flicker: I missed it?
[03:25] <koshari> darkmatter utorrent
[03:25] <mistik1> to1: give it some time, it may be just that your monitor cant handle the framebuffer resolution, so wait a while and see if you get to gdm
[03:25] <whyameye> why would it be that suspend doesn't work UNLESS I hibernate 1x first?
[03:25] <to1> DerangedDingo :::it just shows one word....grub
[03:25] <Flicker> Guys i have just installed ubuntu but i set up the Name Username and the computer name all wrong.. is there any way to bring that dialog back up? the one i got during setup?
[03:25] <Konam> I reinstalled windows but I still get just Feisty in the grub menu. I use to have just feisty.
[03:25] <boontoo> default bittorrent on ubuntu pwns
[03:25] <to1> only grub shows up
[03:25] <shelby> oook well i guess i go login my acc and check user group thingos, good luck with your sound boontoo , thnx for help. see ya
[03:25] <w4ett> darkmatter:  try on ##hacker
[03:25] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: please take illegal questions elsewhere
[03:26] <Konam> can someone tell me the command that installs grub and check for other OSes again?
[03:26] <to1> it worked before
[03:26] <doctavus> how do you get the programs to show on the panel at the bottom again?
[03:26] <boontoo> shelby: good luck also try google but you probably have
[03:26] <Konam> I use to know it but I forgot it
[03:26] <Konam> :(
[03:26] <Hodapp> DerangedDingo: where did darkmatter mention anything illegal?
[03:26] <koshari> flicker make a new account give it sudoers permission and delete the previous account
[03:26] <darkmatter> join ##hacker
[03:26] <DerangedDingo> Hodapp: torrenting Win XP
[03:26] <Dekkard> when yer comp boots.. you will get to the grup prompt.. try hitting the del key to bring up the boot menu
[03:26] <to1> DerangedDingo: it only says 1 word.....grub
[03:26]  * Hodapp looks
[03:26] <drifterz> This IRC is almost too crowded. I guess it improves your reading words per minute haha
[03:26] <ztomic> Flicker: try to remember the password and continue.
[03:26] <Hodapp> ...ah. I thought he was looking for a torrent client for Win XP.
[03:27] <boontoo> on a side note, does anyone know a good extensive japanese input method that has nice fonts?
[03:27] <navets> can someone explain how i get ksynaptic working
[03:27] <navets> it wont work for me
[03:27] <Dekkard> ksynaptic??
[03:27] <ztomic> hehe
[03:27] <Dekkard> how about adept
[03:27] <DerangedDingo> to1: does it boot Ubuntu or Windows XP afterwards?
[03:27] <DerangedDingo> to1: or does it just say GRUB and doesn't do anything?
[03:27] <to1> nothing
[03:27] <to1> just grub then hangs
[03:27] <doctavus> how do you get the programs to show on the panel at the bottom again?
[03:28] <to1> after about 15 key presses it starts beeping
[03:28] <techjim> anyone fix the 7.10 firewire ipod problems that cropped up in the update?
[03:28] <Jimdb> doctavus:  irght click on the panel and choose add to panel.
[03:28] <doctavus> *jimdb* ok
[03:28] <to1> DerangedDingo: it used to work
[03:28] <Dekkard> man..doesn't anyone google anymore??
[03:28] <wheredidrealityg> is anyone else running x86 32-bit Picasa on an x86_64 Ubuntu with AWN, and find it glitches AWN?
[03:28] <pos> where can i found a tutorial configuration Ubuntu->squid->DansGuardian->WindowsClient
[03:29] <darkmatter> well ##hacker does not work no one is in it
[03:29] <doctavus> *jimdb* i guess i should rephrase it, the programs that are running aren't showing on the taskbar
[03:29] <pos> anybody can help with my problem?
[03:29] <darkmatter> im looking for good version of windows xp pro x64
[03:29] <doctavus> so i have to alt-tab
[03:29] <Scunizi> navets: look for adept not synaptic... if you want the synaptic interface for apt in KDE then search and install it from adept
[03:29] <Jimdb> doctavus:  right click on the panel, choose add to panel, then choose window list
[03:29] <to1> btw how can i write files in lifeCD mode??
[03:29] <darkmatter> i found one but it was corrupted
[03:29] <qwexer> Dekkard: me I've been for 3 hrs now, hehe
[03:29] <astro76> !warez | darkmatter
[03:29] <ubotu> darkmatter: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:29] <mistik1> darkmatter: You are joking right?
[03:30] <pos> anyone can help with my problem?
[03:30] <doctavus> *jimdb* awesome, ty!
[03:30] <darkmatter> umm no joke
[03:30] <darkmatter> can not find it
[03:30] <Jimdb> doctavus:  yw
[03:30] <to1> btw how can i write files in lifeCD mode??
[03:30] <mistik1> darkmatter: how about you just get lost
[03:30] <wheredidrealityg> darkmatter: this is a forum for Linux users. We're not going to help you pirate Windows.
[03:30] <Jimdb> doctavus:  explore that "add to panel"  it has lots of goodies.
[03:30] <pos> where can i found a tutorial configuration on Ubuntu->squid->DansGuardian->WindowsClient
[03:30] <darkmatter> i can even find the windows channel so i have no choice
[03:30] <to1> how can i write files in lifeCD mode??
[03:30] <darkmatter> im trying to dual boot linux
[03:30] <darkmatter> does that count
[03:30] <mistik1> no
[03:30] <Dekkard> no
[03:30] <darkmatter> lol
[03:31] <fxfitz> In Screen and Graphics Preferences->Choose Screens, what is the "Add" button for??
[03:31] <darkmatter> u  ppl r so crule
[03:31] <mistik1> pirates suck
[03:31] <Dekkard> have fun.. if you install win on the same disk.. tis gonna overwrite grub..and youll have to reinstall linux
[03:31] <wheredidrealityg> darkmatter: If we were truly cruel, we would berate you for your grammar and spelling too.
[03:31] <to1> im having truble with grub
[03:31] <MorelOrel> what about the code jews<human
[03:31] <Jimdb> the biggest pirates are the record companies, lol
[03:31] <vulcanius> damnit wheredidrealityg, you just ruined my next sentence
[03:31] <qwexer> ya ninja's ftw
[03:31] <astro76> !ops | MorelOrel
[03:31] <Konam> Dekkard I'm having problems with that
[03:31] <darkmatter> yeah ur right im a dumb-ass
[03:31] <ubotu> MorelOrel: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:32] <wheredidrealityg> vulcanius: Sorry, I'm sure you can pick another flaw to pick on ;)
[03:32] <Konam> Dekkard I reinstalled windows asuming that it will overwrite GRUB but it didn't
[03:32] <nixternal> heh
[03:32] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: you can talk about dual booting Linux here, not pirating an OS.
[03:32] <Fload> I can't get ubuntu to boot after installing nvidia drivers... can I restore somehow?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ;) working late
[03:32] <darkmatter> lol
[03:32] <Konam> Dekkard they're on differents partitions but i need grub to recognize windows
[03:32] <Dekkard> konam really??
[03:32] <ztomic> I found a grub in my garden and tossed it out. I gave sid a call and he said, "try feisty. he knows everything." All I could do was laugh.
[03:32] <darkmatter> im trying but eveyone is like GO away
[03:32] <Mal-> hey can anybody help me get GTK+ libraires working on my machine?
[03:32] <vulcanius> gnomefreak, thats what i used to call it, but then i learned the value of honesty
[03:32] <to1> dera
[03:32] <Jimdb> fload:  it boots, you just can't get the graphical desktop.
[03:32] <Dekkard> konam.. yer going to have to manually edit grub
[03:32] <Konam> Dekkard I need to reinstall grub in a way that it check for other OSes again, do you know the command
[03:32] <to1> DerangedDingo: can u help???
[03:33] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: you haven't asked any questions about Linux yet, which is why
[03:33] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: im still getting tons of failed packages
[03:33] <Dekkard> konam.. you shouldnt have to reinstall grub
[03:33] <DerangedDingo> to1: You probably have some GRUB setup issues. I used to know how to fix these (after I had some of my own upgrading to Feisty) but it's gone now. Google as much as you can for GRUB Configuration Issues until you find something that looks good, and then try a forum topic
[03:33] <falloutsyndrome> O
[03:33] <Fload> I cant get to login or a console
[03:33] <DerangedDingo> to1: although someone in here might know how to fix those things offhand
[03:33] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: same error as before?
[03:33] <Konam> Dekkard reinstall grub isn't helping :(
[03:33] <Jimdb> fload:  alt+f4?
[03:33] <darkmatter> what happen when u move a fully stored crap in linux hdd and u move it to another comp totaly with linux on it what happens then
[03:33] <Dekkard> Konam,  you need to figure. out how to add the location to grub manually
[03:33] <falloutsyndrome> I'm writing a research paper on Linux, anyone have a blog I could reference about the ease of use in ubuntu?
[03:33] <Fload> Ilemme try
[03:33] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: nope just hardly any hits when updating the package information
[03:33] <Mal-> hey can anybody help me get GTK+ libraires working on my machine?
[03:33] <Dekkard> falloutsyndrome,  there are gutsy reviews all over the place
[03:34] <to1> DerangedDingo: kk thnx
[03:34] <darkmatter> well where is my answer
[03:34] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: Well, the files you moved from one hard drive get moved to the other
[03:34] <Dekkard> mal do you have gnome installed?
[03:34] <falloutsyndrome> Dekkard anyone who's well known?
[03:34] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: Then, you can access those files on the other hard drive VIA the operating system's applications
[03:34] <astro76> falloutsyndrome, yeah there's stuff all over the place, check the Ubuntu Weekly News article archives on wiki.ubuntu.com for some links
[03:34] <doctavus>  anyone have problems running gnucash?
[03:34] <logon> I need to update the drivers for my Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS], 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter its rather slow, how do I do this???
[03:34] <Dekkard> liek who.. rob enderle? or maybe laura didio?
[03:34] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: It's quite simple, really
[03:34] <falloutsyndrome> astro76 thanks
[03:35] <mistik1> darkmatter: thanks for helping me to workout my /ignore function
[03:35] <Syrra> er uh, so
[03:35] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: it might be a problem with third party repos.
[03:35] <darkmatter> umm no im trying to move the hdd totaly with  games and videos' on it to another computer that does not have anything other than windows on it
[03:35] <Syrra> I apparently have three hard drives in there
[03:35] <Mal-> hey can anybody help me get GTK+ libraires working on my machine?
[03:35] <darkmatter> ur welcome istikl
[03:35] <astro76> darkmatter, you can install ext2fs in windows and read ext2 and ext3 linux filesystems
[03:35] <Dekkard> Mal::: do you have gnome installed?
[03:35] <dcstimm> hey guys, How do I disable gdm and have a verbose boot? I hate not being able to ctrl + alt + backspace back to a commandline prompt
[03:36] <darkmatter> what about grub
[03:36] <dcstimm> I want to startx in the command line
[03:36] <logon> I need to update the drivers for my Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS], 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter its rather slow, how do I do this???
[03:36] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: What about it?
[03:36] <darkmatter> can anyone tell me how to change grub so i can load it my self
[03:36] <Dekkard> logon,  its going to be slow no matter what you do
[03:36] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: load what?
[03:36] <Jimdb> syrra:  who makes the drive that is giving you problems?
[03:36] <darkmatter> grub
[03:36] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: i would go back into your software sources (where you can change servers) and remove any "unofficial" repos from the upgrade. it's recommended for best upgrade experience, conflicts can arise otherwise.
[03:36] <Syrra> I couldn't get it out all the way to tell, but I saw an IBM logo
[03:37] <to1> how can i write files in life CD mode???
[03:37] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: you can re-enable them afterwards.
[03:37] <Syrra> I think that's the one
[03:37] <Jimdb> syrra:  hitachi
[03:37] <darkmatter> i have problems with grub when i change my hdd with linux on to a os computer
[03:37] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: ok true
[03:37] <Dekkard> life cd??
[03:37] <to1> yes
[03:37] <Dekkard> wtf is that?
[03:37] <Syrra> The other two were seagate barracudas
[03:37] <to1> how can i write files in life CD mode???
[03:37] <Jimdb> syrra: go to the hitachi's web site and download their drive fitness test and run it against your drive.
[03:37] <Dekkard> you mean livecd?
[03:37] <darkmatter> i want to keep my crap in linux hdd will it stay if i change the total computer
[03:37] <doctavus> *any* Whats the command in terminal to show the running processes?
[03:37] <Dekkard>  as in knoppix?
[03:37] <darkmatter> like the computer shell
[03:37] <doctavus> been years
[03:37] <Dekkard> docta_v,  top
[03:37] <to1> ubuntu
[03:37] <doctavus> thats it, thx
[03:37] <Jimdb> syrra:  you have windows installed on any of your machines?
[03:37] <wheredidrealityg> tol: Livecds can only write to hard drives if they're mounted.
[03:37] <Fload> ok I left the room and just came back and it booted in what looks like defualt mode...
[03:38] <to1> its mounted
[03:38] <Toma-> doctavus➔ 'ps aux'
[03:38] <vrkhans> how i can install e17
[03:38] <to1> but i need permision
[03:38] <Konam> Dekkard can't you give me any hint or something?
[03:38] <Fload> but can't get it to boot normally
[03:38] <willskills> ps aux
[03:38] <Syrra> this one, but I can't get to it without grub, afaict
[03:38] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: No, changing the computer case won't change hard drive contents, unless, while installing Windows, you reformat your Linux harddrive
[03:38] <Syrra> And the one in uh
[03:38] <doctavus> heh for some reason i can't even run a terminal now, guess i'll reboot, brb
[03:38] <Toma-> vrkhans➔ a guy named dunnewind has a ubuntu repository. google for it
[03:38] <Dekkard> Konam,  dood.. im sorry.. im just a cook. the only time ive done it is to remove old kernel entries
[03:38] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: For installing GRUB: http://tinyurl.com/39wvdh
[03:38] <darkmatter> ty
[03:38] <doctavus> after this song, heh
[03:38] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: so i should untick all of the 40 3rd party software repos?
[03:39] <scguy318> Dekkard: better to just uninstall the older kernel versions if you dont want them :P
[03:39] <Jimdb> syrra:  is there anything on the drive that is giving you problems that you can't do without?
[03:39] <Syrra> I think there's one in the other room that runs Win2k
[03:39] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Captain, I think I have detected the source of the conflict.
[03:39] <boontoo> ahahha
[03:39] <darkmatter> now can you please find me a good torrent that is not corrupted
[03:39] <vrkhans> Toma google for what
[03:39] <boontoo> must have been that POS automatix
[03:39] <Dekkard> scguy318,  sometimes i like to do it the hard way
[03:39] <Syrra> nope
[03:39] <Toma-> vrkhans➔ 'dunnewind ubuntu e17'
[03:39] <gnychis> is there a battery monitor for laptops, kind of like nm-applet is for networks?
[03:39] <Dekkard> .. i used to run slackware.. there is no such thing as automatic
[03:39] <Syrra> I don't even remember what was on it
[03:39] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Automatix is completely unnecessary in Gutsy.
[03:39] <scguy318> Dekkard: why not free up a bit of space :P
[03:39] <Syrra> but I had everything backed up to usb
[03:39] <Syrra> or /home/syrra
[03:39] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: so i discover
[03:39] <Syrra> which is a different drive
[03:39] <astro76> darkmatter, we won't warn again about piracy discussion
[03:39] <Jimdb> syrra:  then go to www.hitachi.com and download their drive fitness test. test the drive.  if it says bad sectors, then low level it and reinstall linux
[03:40] <darkmatter> what did i do
[03:40] <scguy318> gnychis: sure is, should be somewhere in the applet list
[03:40] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: it prompts for codec installs, you can also install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" (from official multiverse repos) and it'll install most otherstuff (java etc)
[03:40] <darkmatter> im just asking for help
[03:40] <darkmatter> or give me the channel
[03:40] <gnychis> scguy318: do you know the name by chance? i don't have a full gnome desktop installed
[03:40] <Syrra> thanks again Jim
[03:40] <astro76> darkmatter, channel for what?
[03:40] <scguy318> gnychis: sure, lemme see
[03:40] <darkmatter> windows
[03:40] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: ah, well i wanted codeweavers crossover
[03:41] <astro76> !windows | darkmatter
[03:41] <ubotu> darkmatter: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:41] <Dekkard> lmao
[03:41] <jhonovich1> in update manager even though my system is up to date, i am not getting a message to allow me to upgrade to a new distribution, i am on dapper, any advice?
[03:41] <scguy318> gnychis: Battery Charge Monitor
[03:41] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: The latter would fit you best, IMHO
[03:41] <Dekkard> jhonovich1,  i dont think you can go straight from dapper to gutsy
[03:41] <scguy318> jhonovich1: better to backup and do a nice clean install
[03:42] <darkmatter> ty very much for that one DERANGEDDINGO
[03:42] <kkathman> you cant go from dapper to gutsy unless you reinstall
[03:42] <Flannel> kkathman: Or upgrade a few times
[03:42] <kkathman> right
[03:42] <jhonovich1> how do i go from dapper to edgy, can i upgrade that way?
[03:42] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: my ultimate goal is when ubuntu is loggin in you get to chose which language you want, if you select english it opens up emulation software and music and games, when i select japanese it opens up mail and forums
[03:42] <Jimdb> anyone here use the moods plugin for amarok?
[03:42] <Fload> how can I restore my xorg.conf can it be done via livecd?
[03:42] <kkathman> well Flannel  exactly - you cant go from dapper to gutsy :)
[03:42] <scguy318> jhonovich1: you can upgrade from Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy, which means MASSIVE downloading
[03:43] <scguy318> jhonovich1: or you can backup and perform a clean install
[03:43] <Dekkard> jhonovich1,  if you want to go from dapper to gutsy.. you should bakc up your data and do a clean install
[03:43] <frank23> jhonovich1: the only supported upgrades are from one version to the next
[03:43] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: you're welcome, I enjoyed it. i wouldn't be rude if you just dropped the whole "help me do illegal stuff" act
[03:43] <Syrra> floppies again
[03:43] <Syrra> nnnrg
[03:43] <Jimdb> fload:  use gparted to mount the volume.  then go into the /etc/X11 folder and edit the xorg.conf.  find the place where it says the device is "nvidia" and change back to "nv"
[03:43] <jhonovich1> thanks, everyone, i will back up and install clean
[03:43] <Flicker> my console says   word@word:~$  how can i change both of those words?
[03:43] <kkathman> feisty to gutsy doesnt require massive downloading
[03:43] <Fload> ya
[03:44] <scguy318> Flicker: change the prompt? probably edit some bash file
[03:44] <Flannel> jhonovich1: Or wait six months until april, then go from dapper straight to hardy
[03:44] <Jimdb> fload:  the /etc/X11 folder will be underneath the location where you mounted the hard drive
[03:44] <logon> My video performance sucks with ubuntu, what should I do???
[03:44] <darkmatter> what was so illegal i still dont know yt
[03:44] <scguy318> Flicker: or do you want to change your username and machine name?
[03:44] <elkbirthday> or he could wait 6 mths for hardy and do the lts to lts upgrade
[03:44] <frank23> Flicker: the first is you user name and the last your computer name
[03:44] <Syrra> What is MF2HD formatted?
[03:44] <elkbirthday> Flannel, yeah :)
[03:44] <DerangedDingo> darkmatter: Torrenting copyrighted material, such as microsoft windows
[03:44] <astro76> Flicker, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[03:44] <Jimdb> fload:  so if you mount the hdd under /media it will be /media/etc/X11
[03:44] <Syrra> eh, better question, how do I tell if a floppy is formatted? I think it's new out of the box, but I'm unsure
[03:44] <kamue> hello
[03:45] <scguy318> Syrra: you can try to mount it, off the top of my head
[03:45] <kkathman> scguy318,  your advice isnt accurate really :)
[03:45] <Jimdb> syrra:  just try writing to it.
[03:45] <scguy318> kkathman: do explain
[03:45] <duck_> where to i copy themes to?
[03:45] <Dekkard> you can mount from  the command line
[03:45] <Syrra> what's the name of the floppy device?
[03:45] <kkathman> feisty -> no massive download
[03:45] <boontoo> 60% of torrenting is illegal but i hate how admins say that 100% is
[03:45] <Dekkard> duck ~.themes
[03:45] <Syrra> fd something wasn't it?
[03:45] <kkathman> its a simple upgrade
[03:45] <scguy318> kkathman: like fd0 or something
[03:45] <kkathman> no
[03:45] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Interesting. I wish I knew more about coding, it'd be a fun project.
[03:45] <scguy318> kkathman: from Dapper -> Gutsy? dont think so
[03:45] <kamue> hey, anyone want to make money? im offering a real job PM me
[03:45] <ArrPirate> I love the multiple desktops for ubuntu, but I wish that I could have seperate panels and seperate desktop icons for each one. Is there way a to do this?
[03:45] <kkathman> you said feisty -> gutsy
[03:45] <Flicker> frank23: i know what they are   and i know how to change user but how do i change computer name?
[03:46] <ArrPirate> a way, sorry
[03:46] <scguy318> kkathman: I said Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty -> Gutsy or something like that
[03:46] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: i wish i knew where to start and what languages to learn lol
[03:46] <astro76> !ops | kamue spam
[03:46] <ubotu> kamue spam: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:46] <Jimdb> syrra:  rather than have another problem to resolve, just take it to the windows 2k box and try to write to it.
[03:46] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: i totally admit im a complete script kiddie, i had my go at C++ and gave up but that was in primary school so i think ill give python a shot
[03:46] <scguy318> kkathman: if I did screw up, do tell
[03:46] <Syrra> how long should this take
[03:46] <frank23> Flicker: umm not sure.... I think that;s the hostname
[03:46] <genii> Syrra: sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy;sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:46] <kkathman> if one's on dapper - best to backup home (unless on a sep partition) and do fresh install
[03:47] <qwexer> anyone used wine and if so, how good is it? can you run games through it?
[03:47] <gotgenes> I just saw bug #59695 and noticed even with my laptop plugged in, the HD cycle count goes up by 2 to 7 every minute
[03:47] <genii> Syrra: ls /mnt/floppy
[03:47] <Flannel> qwexer: Lots of people can, and do.
[03:47] <scguy318> qwexer: yes, its good for some apps, it depends on what game
[03:47] <Syrra> neh, thanks genii
[03:47] <Syrra> <3
[03:47] <scguy318> qwexer: some games work, some not so well
[03:47] <kkathman> its not worth dapper - edgy - feisty -gutsy  thats ridiculous
[03:47] <Ste-Foy> Thank you genii :))
[03:47] <scguy318> kkathman: exactly
[03:47] <astro76> qwexer, check the appdb on the winehq site
[03:47] <scguy318> kkathman: thats why I pointed out the clean install option
[03:47] <elkbirthday> astro76, spam where?
[03:47] <secleinteer> what would be the best way to share a printer that's running on one ubuntu box with another ubuntu box on the lan?
[03:47] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: a lot of Ubuntu coders seem to love Python, I'd like to give it a shot too, seems very structured.
[03:47] <scguy318> qwexer: your best bet is to consult the AppDb at http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:47] <genii> Syrra , Ste-Foy np
[03:48] <astro76> elkbirthday, maybe you don't consider it spam but... <kamue> hey, anyone want to make money? im offering a real job PM me
[03:48] <gnychis> scguy318: great thank you, gnome-power-manager did the trick
[03:48] <astro76> elkbirthday, sorry if I overreacted ;)
[03:48] <genii> secleinteer: lpd
[03:48] <scguy318> gnychis: np
[03:48] <qwexer> really the only reason I still have windows is for my mmorpg eq2
[03:48] <elkbirthday> astro76, i didn tsee the message
[03:48] <kkathman> yep its a simpler situation, but unfortuntately ubuntu devs that program the install do not insist on a dedicated home partition - which is a travesty beyond all logc
[03:48] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: yeh, G++ is fun aparently but i think all that is too mathematically insane
[03:48] <elkbirthday> i see it now
[03:48] <qwexer> scguy318: tyvm I'll go there now
[03:48] <secleinteer> genii: link?
[03:48] <kkathman> almost every other distro does
[03:48] <genii> secleinteer: 1 moment
[03:48] <dell> hell
[03:49] <dell> hello all
[03:49] <dell> hello all
[03:49] <scguy318> hello
[03:49] <qwexer> hello dell
[03:49] <dell> hello all
[03:49] <dell> hello all
[03:49] <scguy318> dell: hello, do you have a question?
[03:49] <dell> yes
[03:49] <dell> where are you ?
[03:49]  * Dekkard just shakes his head
[03:49] <mistik1> hehe
[03:49] <riotkittie> really? none of the other distros i've installed have insisted on dedicated /homes
[03:49] <scguy318> dell: I'm at home?
[03:49] <Syrra> eh, can't mount
[03:49] <Jimdb> he's behind you
[03:49] <Syrra> how do I format?
[03:49] <scguy318> Syrra: mkfs I think
[03:49] <kkathman> riotkittie,  you're installed poor distros then
[03:50] <prak> is there anyone here who knows about to apply patches and then apply the recompilation/reinstallation?
[03:50] <Syrra> I know how to do this in dos XD
[03:50] <Syrra> I swear
[03:50] <kkathman> riotkittie,  the responsible ones DO
[03:50] <Dekkard> kkathman,  thanks for that opinion
[03:50] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: you may want to take a look at some of the gtk+ documentation too. it's interesting (i bookmarked it) http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/index.html
[03:50] <OpenSorce> is that stoned "dude you're gettin a dell" kid?
[03:50] <Jimdb> syrra:  take it to your win2k box, format it then bring it back and mount it.
[03:50] <kkathman> Dekkard,  please explain to me the reasoning to NOT have a dedicated home partition if you please
[03:50] <Syrra> kk
[03:50] <kkathman> if you have a contrary opinion
[03:50] <Dekkard> ok.. how big do you make it?
[03:50] <Syrra> I need to learn how to do this in linux
[03:50] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: will do
[03:51] <Jimdb> syrra:  yes, but hwen you don't hae more pressing matters at hand
[03:51] <boontoo> aparently python and heineken beer is a winning combination
[03:51] <astro76> kkathman, I think pretty much the only reason is to avoid the question "how much space for / and how much space for /home"
[03:51] <kkathman> Dekkard,  you dont - you fix the root, and let the rest be home of course
[03:51] <scguy318> Syrra: mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0 1440
[03:51] <scguy318> Syrra: something like that I guess
[03:51] <riotkittie> kkathman: the fact that my distros of choice don't demand seperate home partitions doesn't make them poor, but that's offtopic and so i will shut up
[03:51] <kkathman> its ridiculous to not have a separated home
[03:51] <wheredidrealityg> kkathman: I'm with you, separate /home partition makes reinstalling much easier and painless.
[03:51] <Dekkard> so on a 500 gig drive you leave like 498 gig for home?
[03:51] <scragar> I have a dedicated hard-drive for my home directory, forget partitions.
[03:51] <OpenSorce> kkathman, agreed
[03:52] <kkathman> wheredidrealityg,  thank you - most people around linux for ANY length of time know this
[03:52] <genii> Bah documentation shows lpd has now been superceded by cupsd
[03:52] <OpenSorce> scragar, nice :-)
[03:52] <GuHHH> does anyone uses chrooted apache with phpldapadmin?
[03:52] <Jimdb> anyone else here using the mood plugin for amarok?
[03:53] <mistik1> Syrra: fdformat ?
[03:53] <scguy318> kkathman: where do you live? you happen to be right in my Class B
[03:53] <wheredidrealityg> Scragar: me too, but for those with only one hard drive, partitions still do a good job.
[03:53] <genii> secleinteer: Use cups/cupsd, a brief tutorial is here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-480039.html
[03:53] <astro76> Jimdb, try #kubuntu
[03:53] <scragar> it was a choice between having 35 gig for a partition or 250 gig for a drive, I chose the later
[03:53] <secleinteer> genii: thank you
[03:53] <kkathman> scguy318,   maybe that convo is best in ubuntu-offtopic :)  - Texas btw
[03:54] <Jimdb> astro76:  love the jetsons, btw...i am using it and I like it.  just checking to see if others like it.
[03:54] <Dekkard> lol.. he said texas
[03:54] <scguy318> kkathman: duh but where in? i gathered that from your DNS name
[03:54] <kkathman> scguy318,  we must be close my friend :)
[03:54] <kkathman> scguy318,  Dallas area - northwest Dallas Country
[03:54] <genii> secleinteer: Yer welcome
[03:54] <kkathman> County that is
[03:54] <catsidhe> are there any alternatives to X windows?
[03:54] <scguy318> kkathman: Dallas area, Collin County
[03:54] <scguy318> catsidhe: not really...
[03:55] <kkathman> scguy318,  hooray for fios eh?
[03:55] <scguy318> catsidhe: X is basically the defacto
[03:55] <scguy318> kkathman: yep
[03:55] <kkathman> heh
[03:55] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: how's your upgrade going now with only official repos?
[03:55] <catsidhe> scguy318, i don't care if it's experimental/research
[03:55] <Dekkard> you cna not use X of course
[03:55] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: something just crapped one sec
[03:55] <Dekkard> just do it all from the terminal
[03:55] <catsidhe> mouse function I'd like to retain
[03:55] <kkathman> scguy318,  im about as far north and east in Dallas County without being in Tarrant  or Denton
[03:55] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: havent got past the updating packages yet lol
[03:56] <Fload> can someone help me I finally got ubuntu to boot safemode but I can't rename any files (xorg)
[03:56] <johnficca> I have a realtek rtl8185l wireless card and I'm trying to get it going using ndiswrapper, the first time I tried I have the card working great but then I reboot and not only does it take forever to start now but it won't go online...Help ?
[03:56] <|jason|> im getting an error on the upgrade of xsever-xorg-input-synaptics on a desktop workstation - -that sounds suspiciously like a touch pad driver, can i just kill that package?
[03:56] <scguy318> catsidhe: XFree86, Y Window System (whatever that is)
[03:56] <|jason|> this is in kubuntu
[03:56] <scguy318> catsidhe: the Wikipedia article mentions a few
[03:56] <Jimdb> fload:  you try with sudo?
[03:56] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: I keep forgetting, 56kbps, plus irc. I'm used to 600kbps :S
[03:56] <scguy318> johnficca: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?
[03:56] <scguy318> kkathman: cool
[03:56] <jimmygoon> xfree86? huh xserver-xorg > xf86
[03:56] <astro76> |jason|, it's the touchpad, you can get rid of it
[03:56] <johnficca>  scguy318: how do I do that
[03:56] <scguy318> jimmygoon: he asked for alternatives, thats one, though X.org > Xf86
[03:56] <Jimdb> fload:  sudo mv xorg.backup xorg.conf
[03:57] <|jason|> astro76: thanks
[03:57] <Fload> I'm trying through the file browser I dunno console commands too well
[03:57] <jimmygoon> scguy318, see thats what i get for coming in on the end of the convo... i figured it was something like that
[03:57] <scguy318> johnficca: gksudo gedit /etc/modules, stick ndiswrapper on its own line, save, modprobe it manually
[03:57] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: im used to 8 meg =( sorry im not 56kbps but ive got an actual 50 KB /ps connection atm *cry*
[03:57] <scragar> Fload: gksudo nautilus
[03:57] <scguy318> johnficca: and on restart it should automatically load
[03:57] <Jimdb> fload:  alt+f2 then gksu nautilus
[03:57] <scguy318> kkathman: I happen to live in Plano
[03:58] <kkathman> scguy318,  Coppell
[03:58] <johnficca> scguy318: so after I add it I do modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[03:58] <Fload> awesome thanks
[03:58] <kkathman> scguy318,  we are a Bush tollway and 20 mins apart :)
[03:58] <scguy318> kkathman: :)
[03:58] <catsidhe> scguy318, thanks, i'll look at the wikipedia article
[03:58] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Slow connections are not fun.
[03:58] <scguy318> johnficca: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper yeah, that should get it loaded for the current session
[03:59] <MilitantPotato> !xorg
[03:59] <scguy318> johnficca: on reboot it should be loaded automatically thanks to the new entry in /etc/modules
[03:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:59] <MilitantPotato> !xserver
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <johnficca> scguy318: I C thanks I will try now
[03:59] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg:  i know and i cant get a faster one, my isp explained it was because of the wiring in this street and all this crap aparently we have a 16mbit tunnel but cant utilise it
[03:59] <ArrPirate> is there a way to make sure that a program always launches in a certain workspace?
[03:59] <prak> is it possible to copy and paste directory a (new) into directory a (old) without deleting the contents in directory a (old) that's not modified?
[03:59] <scragar> devilspie does that ArrPirate
[04:00] <ArrPirate> thanks
[04:00] <Syrra> box of mostly bad floppies -___-
[04:00] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: That must make you very frustrated. I would go crazy with the availability yet untouchable nature of that kind of bandwidth.
[04:00] <cewek_ok> #salatiga
[04:01] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: try this <sudo apt-get install tilda> my fav tool ever
[04:01] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: already have it ;)
[04:01] <johnficca> scguy318: thank you I got it going
[04:01] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: yeh im 3 months short of dropping a fiber obtic strait to my door =(
[04:01] <antonjo> mi ne havas linukson!
[04:01] <darkmatter> can anyone tell me a good iso burner
[04:01] <wolliw> antonjo: esperanto?
[04:02] <chipbuddy> how do i make it so compiz doesn't start up when i login?
[04:02] <linuxnoob> darkmatter: k3b is a good gui based one
[04:02] <antonjo> jes, cxu vi parolas esperanton?
[04:02] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: all i need to do is bribe\blackmail or both my isp
[04:02] <wolliw> malbona
[04:02] <kkathman> chipbuddy,  get out of it and save your session
[04:02] <linuxnoob> linuxnoob: graveman is a decent gnome based one
[04:02] <herrejjo> I somebody knows how install real player on 6.10?
[04:02] <nathan_> GnomeBaker is pretty straight forward for ISOs
[04:02] <secleinteer> genii: i followed the steps and restarted cups, and i can't pick up the printer on this machine
[04:02] <Dekkard> portoguese?
[04:03] <scragar>  herrejjo I don't know about installing real player, but you can install the codecs to play rm files
[04:03] <antonjo> mi estas brazilano dekkard
[04:03] <darkmatter> how do i get automattix 2 for ubuntu
[04:03] <Dekkard> !br
[04:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:03] <linuxnoob> prak: do you mean like copying ~/x into ~/y where x and y may share common subdirectories and filenames?
[04:03] <scguy318> !automatix | darkmatter
[04:03] <ubotu> darkmatter: Automatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:03] <wolliw> heheh
[04:03] <scguy318> darkmatter: i think http://getautomatix.com or something
[04:03] <herrejjo> Scragar, could you tel me where I can found it?
[04:04] <prak> linuxnoob: yes
[04:04] <linuxnoob> darkmatter: everyone hates automatix
[04:04] <antonjo> jes dekkard
[04:04] <wheredidrealityg> darkmatter: if you're getting Gutsy (7.10) you don't need it.
[04:04] <darkmatter> y does everyone hates automatix
[04:04] <scguy318> darkmatter: see the linkie above
[04:04] <prak> linuxnoob: and x and y share the same name but different directories
[04:04] <darkmatter> naa 7.10 is too advanced
[04:04] <linuxnoob> darkmatter: it breaks things
[04:04] <genii> secleinteer: Sorry for lag, running a gutsy update, a bit bogged
[04:04] <Flicker>  wow
[04:05] <secleinteer> genii: no prob; do you know the issue though?
[04:05] <Flicker> finaly nomore updates
[04:05] <chuy_max> can anyone tell me how to find a partition's file system?
[04:05] <linuxnoob> prak: well, just cd to x and do cp -r *.* ~/y/.
[04:05] <antonjo> cxu vi havas linukson wolliw?
[04:05] <secleinteer> genii: it says at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu that you just have to edit the "Listen" line
[04:05] <wolliw> (So I have linux?)
[04:05] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: can i bind a hot key to open and close tilda?
[04:05] <wolliw> err
[04:05] <Dekkard> !br
[04:05] <wolliw> Do
[04:05] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: yes, just one sec.
[04:05] <genii> secleinteer: reading
[04:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:06] <scguy318> chuy_max: find the partitions on a disk? sudo fdisk -l
[04:06] <scragar> herrejjo https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+question/7023 somewhere on there is a big list of codecs, I don't knowhich one it is, but I know that it works afterwards
[04:06] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: right click the window, hit preferences, keybindings, last tab on the right
[04:06] <chuy_max> scguy318, thx :)
[04:06] <wolliw> ubotu: it's Esperanto
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it's esperanto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <wolliw> it's not a national language
[04:06] <scguy318> wolliw: ubotu is a bot
[04:06] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: hehe i should know that but i felt like being lazy
[04:06] <wolliw> oh
[04:06] <wolliw> heh
[04:06] <scguy318> !esperanto
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esperanto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <herrejjo> thks a lot Scragar c u
[04:07] <scguy318> probably isn't a channel
[04:07] <prak> linuxnoob: what does the omission in http://www.pastebin.ca/756094 mean?
[04:07] <scguy318> for that
[04:07] <genii> secleinteer: Are you able to ping the print server by ip from one of the client machines?
[04:07] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: i've got mine set to tilde, so it's really like quake hehe.
[04:07] <Dekkard> !br
[04:07] <secleinteer> genii: never mind, i got it; i also had to make a modification from the gui
[04:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:07] <genii> secleinteer: Ah, good
[04:07] <secleinteer> genii: thanks for your help
[04:07] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: did you do ctrl+tide or ctrl+~
[04:07] <genii> secleinteer: Welcome, but in this case you helped yourself handily :)
[04:08] <secleinteer> genii: yeah lol
[04:09] <antonjo> i speak portuguese, hispanic the esperanto
[04:09] <chuy_max> scguy318, , mmm, it currently has ext3, but it is damaged or something :S -> Disk /dev/hdb2 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[04:09] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: None+(tilde symbol), if i press it, it opens tilda lol.
[04:09] <Symian> Hi - can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu (or gdm, I guess) to use my login attempt as authentication for my WAP key and to unlock my ssh files?
[04:09] <scguy318> chuy_max: you could use a data recovery tool like testdisk to rectify that
[04:09] <scguy318> !testdisk | chuy_max
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <Symian> Because right now I need tot ype in my password three times just to log in.
[04:09] <scguy318> !datarecovery
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about datarecovery - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <scguy318> mm
[04:09] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: only problem with none+ tide is also a text input function =(
[04:10] <scguy318> chuy_max: you can try Rescubuntu
[04:10] <chuy_max> scguy318, ok, thanks for pointing me that tool, let me do some googling :D
[04:10] <scguy318> chuy_max: its a distro with some data recovery tools
[04:10] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Ah. Maybe do it as a super-key?
[04:10] <chuy_max> scguy318, ubuntu is running, my secondary hdd is the one giving me the trouble
[04:10] <wheredidrealityg> Boontoo: one of my super keys opens a terminal, the other does nothing. Not like we need them for Windows anymore lol.
[04:10] <wolliw> is there no compatibility mode to run 32bit binaries in amd64 ubuntu?
[04:11] <linuxnoob> prak: i think it means that it's not including those directories
[04:11] <wheredidrealityg> Wolliw: ia32-libs, its in the repositories.
[04:11] <wolliw> thank you
[04:11] <prak> linuxnoob: how do I include the directories?
[04:11] <linuxnoob> prak: did you try a recursive -r
[04:11] <linuxnoob> prak: i mean recursive cp, e.g. cp -r
[04:11] <darkmatter> who writes scripts here
[04:12] <wheredidrealityg> Wolliw: you can only do binaries with it, not prepackaged .debs.
[04:12] <prak> linuxnoob:
[04:12] <prak> done
[04:12] <scragar> in what?
[04:12] <prak> forgot the recursive copy
[04:12] <linuxnoob> did it work?
[04:12] <wolliw> where: that's fine, it's a program that isn't in the respos anyway
[04:12] <prak> linuxnoob: ya
[04:12] <linuxnoob> cool
[04:12] <Owner_> can anyone tell me about partitioning a hard drive to load ubuntu on the partition?
[04:12] <scguy318> Owner_: what about it
[04:12] <wolliw> Owner_: what part are you having problems with?
[04:12] <linuxnoob> Owner_: you can use gparted cd or let ubuntu installer guide you through it
[04:13] <trimmer> I want to switch to the Hardy distro, what would be the easiest way to get started?
[04:13] <Symian> Hi - can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu (or gdm, I guess) to use my login attempt as authentication for my WAP key and to unlock my ssh files? Because right now I need to type in my password three times just to log in.
[04:13] <genii> Symian: You can put ssh as the auth type into the pam gdm file, eg: /etc/pam.d/gdm  you can use the ssh example there to dra from. For the wireless, not sure if that can be done from there
[04:13] <scguy318> trimmer: Hardy isn't even out yet
[04:13] <scguy318> trimmer: theres not even a tribe
[04:13] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: heh
[04:13] <Symian> genii, thank you very much.
[04:13] <wheredidrealityg> scguy318: i've got hardy in a VM, the repos are open.
[04:13] <kkathman> why is it that when I try to click on the "Workgroup" group of my samba network, it wont bring back those machines that are ok, it just decides that if it cant get everything it craps out??
[04:13] <scguy318> wheredidrealityg: ah, didnt know
[04:13] <Owner_> well i am totally new some of this hardware stuff...just wondering if partitioning hard drive erases current data on the drive or if the partition can be created "around" current data?
[04:13] <trimmer> Where can I read up on its progress and begin to pitch in?
[04:14] <trimmer> forums?
[04:14] <Symian> Does anyone know how to get the NetworkManager applet to use PAM, then
[04:14] <scguy318> Owner_: partitions can be resized
[04:14] <scguy318> Owner_: preserving data
[04:14] <kkathman> I click on Networks and it seems if EVERY network source doesnt respond, ubuntu brings back NOTHING - thats just dumb
[04:14] <wheredidrealityg> trimmer: the repositories are open, you just have to install Gutsy (computer, partition, virtual machine), and then manually change the repository names from Gutsy to Hardy
[04:14] <scguy318> Owner_: though a very good idea to backup before doing fun operationslike that
[04:14] <scguy318> wheredidrealityg: ah
[04:14] <Owner_> lol fun..
[04:14] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: although None+superkey doesnt work
[04:14] <Jimdb> those of you that use awn, are you successful in getting the notification applet to work?  i see only a white vertical line where the notification applet should be.
[04:14] <scguy318> Owner_: the installer should take care of that fun stuff
[04:15] <scguy318> Owner_: though its better to, say, do it in GPartEd on the LiveCD
[04:15] <scguy318> !partioning
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partioning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <scguy318> !partitioning
[04:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:15] <Flynsarmy_> Is it possible to search all subfolders with grep?
[04:15] <wheredidrealityg> Boontoo: hmmmm.. I'm not sure, you can do a ctrl+F1. Mine was originally none+f1.
[04:15] <genii> See you all in a few,need to reboot to a different kernel
[04:15] <trimmer> Thanks, I will start on a virtual machine, after I manually change the sources, run the dist-upgrade???
[04:15] <scguy318> Flynsarmy_: probably something with find
[04:15] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: you have to make sure your real system tray is closed too.
[04:15] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: if it's open in your panel, it can't be open in AWN, so close that one, then restart your AWN.
[04:15] <etienne_> does someonee knows how to save settings with the network configuration tool from the system, administration menu? because it doesnt seem to work here... it always defualts back to dhcp, even if in the interface file there's nothing about dhcp
[04:15] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: works i guess its not quakey but itl do
[04:16] <scragar> Flynsarmy_ you can specify recursive, so I'd guess so
[04:16] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg:  ok, going to give it a try
[04:16] <CoasterMaster> !torrents
[04:16] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[04:16] <leladia> Write a Bourne shell program to count there are how many lowercase
[04:16] <leladia> letters in a given file.  pls any clues?
[04:16] <Owner_> the installer does some backing up?  or r u talking about the partitioning?
[04:16] <kkathman> ubuntu really sucks with samba :(
[04:16] <Flynsarmy_> scragar: grep -r "hihihi" *?
[04:16] <Owner_> does -> do
[04:16] <wheredidrealityg> trimmer: sudo apt-get update afterwards, then dist-upgrade.
[04:16] <scguy318> Owner_: before you install, backup your data
[04:16] <trimmer> right on.
[04:16] <daryl_> hey guys, how do I boot in verbose mode and start a command line prompt? aka disabling usplash (or what ever its called now and gdm)
[04:17] <scguy318> Owner_: your data will probably survive resizing, but it never hurts to be safe
[04:17] <creaked> rishopinzasdsa
[04:17] <Owner_> so say the partitioning goes well can I choose to boot wither win or ubuntu after that?
[04:17] <scguy318> Owner_: when you install, you can choose to go with guided (use entire disk is probably not what you want) or manual
[04:17] <scguy318> Owner_: yep
[04:17] <Flynsarmy_> scragar: Got it. thanks
[04:18] <Owner_> ok
[04:18] <scguy318> Owner_: the installer will install GRUB with an appropriate menu.lst file to go with it
[04:18] <Owner_> wat is GRUB?
[04:18] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: lol "downloading file 2of2 with 6KB/s
[04:18] <boontoo> =-(
[04:18] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: :O
[04:18] <scguy318> Owner_: GRUB, or the Grand Unified Bootloader, is a boot loader geared towards booting multiple operating systems
[04:18] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: any luck?
[04:19] <Owner_> oh ty..  you all r great!!!
[04:19] <scguy318> Owner_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRUB for your reading pleasure
[04:19] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg:  that worked except it has this overly large white background
[04:19] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: I have it too, haven't found a workaround yet for that though... if only I could alpha blend the icons themselves...
[04:19] <boontoo> this is such bull why is it going so slow
[04:20] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: it gets less noticeable as time goes on trust me.
[04:20] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg: have you found out how to get rid of that "no name" icon that seems to be there every time awn starts?
[04:21] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: I don't have that.. check your applets maybe..
[04:21] <Frogzoo> so what does gutsy do that feisty don't?
[04:21] <wolliw> rock
[04:21] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg: been over it a hundred times, including editing the xml code.
[04:21] <Frogzoo> but feisty's pretty good
[04:21] <scragar> gnome 2.0 = big plus
[04:21] <Frogzoo> oh ok
[04:21] <genii> Frogzoo: install compiz automatically if your hardware supports it
[04:21] <Frogzoo> genii: eww..
[04:21] <daryl_> hey guys, how do I boot in verbose mode and start a command line prompt? aka disabling usplash (or what ever its called now and gdm)
[04:22] <wolliw> daryl: it's in grub.conf
[04:22] <prak> is "tar -xvfj file.tar.bz2" the correct command for unzipping .tar.bz2 files?
[04:22] <wolliw> err
[04:22] <wolliw> well, for verbose it is
[04:22] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: All of my applets are named and work perfectly (main menu, desktop, weather, launchers, windows,trash,quit, system tray)
[04:22] <genii> Frogzoo: An overview of new stuff here http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-7-10-Features-Overview-57708.shtml
[04:22] <wolliw> you can telinit to go into single user mode i think
[04:23] <wolliw> i don't know what failsafe x thinks about that though
[04:23] <prak> !bz2
[04:23] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:23] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg: yeah, they all work for me to, now that the notification area is set up.  but I have this no name icon that appears every time i start awn.  i can just choose to close it, which i do.  i just want to get rid of it for good.
[04:23] <oritemis> hey, azureus torrent client is workint in gutsy?
[04:24] <oritemis> I am getting a dawn java error here.
[04:24] <scguy318> oritemis: use a different client
[04:24] <scguy318> oritemis: KTorrent, utorrent on Wine, etc.
[04:24] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: that's odd. I've not heard of that before. Which repo did you download from?
[04:24] <scguy318> oritemins: old and known bug
[04:24] <scguy318> !torrent | oritemins
[04:24] <ubotu> oritemins: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:24] <Frogzoo> genii: thx, I'll take a look
[04:24] <IdleOne> !java | oritemis
[04:24] <ubotu> oritemis: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[04:24] <mssever> prak: Almost: the -f option needs to come immediately before the name of the tarball
[04:24] <scguy318> IdleOne: thats not his problem, its the old Azureus crashing on startup issue
[04:25] <scguy318> IdleOne: i think Azureus should depend on the Java runtime, if I'm not mistaken
[04:25] <IdleOne> scguy318: ahh ok nm
[04:25] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg:  I don't recall but i compared mine to someone elses on here last night and we had the same version.  they appear to be the latest.
[04:25] <prak> mssever: how does the order of the directives matter?
[04:25] <deaddreamer> hi
[04:25] <oritemis> scguy318: Ktorrent requires kde libs, utorrent will drain resources because wine.
[04:25] <mssever> prak: Because -f expects a filename argument
[04:26] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg:  is there a way to get rid of the last gnome panel since this awn?  since awn does it all for me.
[04:26] <scguy318> oritemis: Wine isn't a very huge overload, since its a compatibility layer and not, say, a virtual machine
[04:26] <scguy318> oritemis: Azureus wastes more resources than those two
[04:26] <oritemis> scguy318: oh, it's an old an know bug? :(
[04:26] <scguy318> oritemis: since it runs on top of the JVM, and its a known memory hog
[04:26] <deaddreamer> i have a hdd that i was trying to install win a while ago, the installation failed and when i came back to ubuntu i cant see those hdd, but i have ntfs read/write activated and i still don't see, any ideas?
[04:26] <Flicker> Guys i forgot where is the list of repositories?
[04:26] <oritemis> IdleOne: I had already jave installed...
[04:26] <scguy318> Flicker: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: I removed everything from my panel except the main menu, and hid it underneath of my AWN (transparent) so that way I can't see it, but if AWN crashes, it's there.
[04:27] <Lam_> i'm compiling mplayer from source, but it doesn't seem to pick up the fact that i have libdvdnav-dev installed. am i doing something wrong?
[04:27] <scguy318> oritemis: depending on KDE isn't that big a deal, and theres always other apps like the rtorrent, cmd-line I think
[04:27] <scguy318> oritemis: Wine isn't that bad compared to the JVM :P
[04:28] <Flicker> scguy318: where would i get the most updated list so that i can install all programs?
[04:28] <frederick85> My shift + a key doesn't produce anything but caps and a still works, i need some advice on how to get my shift + a key working again
[04:28] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[04:28] <frederick85> i made shift + a shortcut to some other thing but i have stopped that now
[04:28] <scguy318> Flicker: repositories remain the same, they dont change per release
[04:28] <scguy318> Flicker: to update the list of packages, sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <Jimdb> wheredidrealityg:  make sense. did that just now.
[04:28] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: you shouldn't be downloading feisty packages.
[04:28] <oritemis> scguy318: I will try utorrent here. I hope work better than azureus. Thx a lot.
[04:28] <wheredidrealityg> Jimdb: :)
[04:28] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: how do i remove it
[04:29] <scguy318> oritemis: np
[04:29] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: are you doing the actual upgrade now, or the update to the latest feisty ones?
[04:29] <Flicker> scguy318: this will update the list   or will add packages?
[04:29] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: the actual upgrade
[04:29] <Flicker> i just want to update the list
[04:29] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change everything Feisty to Gutsy
[04:29] <scguy318> Flicker: it will update the list of packages of each repository
[04:30] <Flicker> i had just installed  ..  it had not done so alreayd?
[04:30] <scguy318> Flicker: adding a package to a repository is the job of MOTU and co.
[04:30] <scguy318> Flicker: you can however install a package locally
[04:30] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: you're going to have to apt-get update again
[04:30] <scguy318> Flicker: independent of the repository packages
[04:30] <rryan> Anyone else notice how in Pidgin the text field you type your message into wiggles as you type? Anyone know how to fix that?
[04:30] <Flannel> wheredidrealityg, boontoo, you don'tneed to manually update anymore.  Its safer to use update-manager
[04:31] <jarrod>  what is a string?
[04:31] <Flicker> scguy318: so that command will add new sources to the list? i sthat what you're saying
[04:31] <mssever> jarrod: A sequence of characters
[04:31] <scguy318> Flicker: no, it will simply update the package lists
[04:31] <frederick85> somebody tell me how i can reset my keyboard bindings so shift + a makes a capital
[04:31] <jarrod> mssever: thanks
[04:31] <mssever> jarrod: like text, words, etc.
[04:31] <scguy318> Flicker: to add a repository you would edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use System -> Administration -> Software Sources frontend
[04:31] <ToddEDM> hey guys..... i downloaded an .iso and when i double click it... it always asks me to insert a blank disc... the problem i have with that is  THERE IS ONE IN THE DRIVE!!! its driving me nutty
[04:31] <wheredidrealityg> Flannel: they both use apt, update-manager is just a GUI frontend. I still stick to the terminal sometimes.
[04:31] <Crav> my vlc for some reason now has drop shaddows on every video i try, any solution?
[04:31] <ArrPirate> I'm currently using gnome but I'd like to try out KDE, is there a way to do this and to revert back to gnome if I don't like it?
[04:32] <scguy318> ArrPirate: sure, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <scguy318> ArrPirate: then just login and change session
[04:32] <ToddEDM> ArrPirate:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <jarrod> mssever: i knew it was a basic thing but it was difficult to find a def that explained it.
[04:32] <ToddEDM> damn!! im not fast enough
[04:32] <Flannel> wheredidrealityg: If you prefer that way, that's fine.  Please don't recommend it to people.  update-manager does sanity checks and reenables metapackages and things.  So unless you're going to walk them through all that, please just suggest update-manager
[04:32] <Bonster> will it have all the KDE files?
[04:32] <boontoo> Flannel: ive been having a lot of update problems from the update-manager, eg having to change MMap defaults ecte ct
[04:33] <ArrPirate> how would I login and change session?
[04:33] <scguy318> ArrPirate: log out, at the login window, theres a button called Session
[04:33] <scguy318> ArrPirate: pick that, select KDE or w/e, login, boom, you're in KDE
[04:33] <ToddEDM> hey guys..... i downloaded an .iso and when i double click it... it always asks me to insert a blank disc... the problem i have with that is  THERE IS ONE IN THE DRIVE!!! its driving me nutty . Does anyone know how to remedy this??
[04:33] <Bonster> will it have all KDE stuff?
[04:33] <Bonster> or is it just a theme?
[04:33] <ArrPirate> for some reason my login window doesn't match my resolution so all I see is the input box, the logo, and Options
[04:33] <mssever> ArrPirate: At the login screen, hit F10 and choose Session
[04:33] <Flannel> !repeat | ToddEDM
[04:33] <ubotu> ToddEDM: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:33] <scguy318> Bonster: kubuntu-desktop gives you basically all the stuff in Kubuntu
[04:33] <ArrPirate> cool, thanks
[04:34] <whyameye> why would it be that suspend doesn't work UNLESS I hibernate 1x first?
[04:34] <Flicker> scguy318: for example i search for MC (midnight commander)  it does not show up on the list
[04:34] <Bonster> so that means i can install Linux MCE KDE on my Gnome?
[04:34] <Flicker> why?
[04:34] <boontoo> why would you want kde
[04:34] <scguy318> boontoo: some people like it
[04:34] <boontoo> odd
[04:34] <Flannel> Flicker: Where are you searching?
[04:35] <mssever> boontoo: Some people like it
[04:35] <oddchild> Hello, does anyone know much about httpd?
[04:35] <boontoo> then again some people like windows i guess
[04:35] <Bonster> any 1 got linux MCE on ur gnome box yet?
[04:35] <ArrPirate> on a side note, why is it that when I'm installing an OS like Linux or Windows or I'm in my BIOS screens a lot of the screen is off of the edge of my monitor and my monitor is unable to adjust to fit the screen? Is this something I can fix or something I have to live with forever?
[04:35] <wheredidrealityg> Boontoo: zing.
[04:35] <scguy318> Flicker: its the mc package
[04:35] <boontoo> lol
[04:35] <scguy318> Flicker: sudo apt-get install mc
[04:35] <mssever> boontoo: And some people like icewm :)
[04:36] <oddchild> I have ubuntu, and had apache running for a month. Then it stopped showing the page to people outside the network. I didn't change any settings, just suddenly happened. The Lan is still port forwarding right, as all the other services are going good. Anyone have advice?
[04:36] <Jimdb> arrpirate:  try pulling the power plug for hte monitor overnight.  modern monitors have a memory of what the settings are for any given resolution.
[04:36] <mssever> Bonster: Isn't MCE just a set of packages? You could just manually install those packages if you didn't want to do a full install
[04:36] <boontoo> mssever: wow the safemode of the 21st century
[04:36] <jarrod> i had a comp freeze on the bios. had to call it in. anwser; unplug and hold power to flush static. it worked.
[04:36] <Bonster> mssever: from what i no is for KDE only
[04:37] <scguy318> Bonster: dont see why you cant install the KDE libs?
[04:37] <boontoo> jarrod: ive never EVER experianced a bios freeze O.O how did it happen
[04:37] <ToddEDM> whats the best program to burn an iso?
[04:37] <Flicker> scguy318: i know that will work BUT i use to do this via Synaptic   why does it not work?
[04:37] <scguy318> ToddEDM: k3b
[04:37] <wheredidrealityg> boontoo: Good luck with your install, bedtime for me.
[04:37] <mssever> boontoo: I'm actually using icewm right now. It's really fast
[04:37] <scguy318> ToddEDM: cmd-line cdrecord
[04:37] <ToddEDM> thank you
[04:37] <boontoo> wheredidrealityg: cya
[04:37] <wheredidrealityg> Goodnight all.
[04:37] <Bonster> scguy318: u install it b4?
[04:37] <boontoo> mssever: its not so bad
[04:37] <jarrod> boontoo: static charge buildup. possible from a external drive always being on
[04:38] <scguy318> Bonster: no
[04:38] <mssever> Bonster: Well, the apps may be KDE apps, but all that means is that you'll end up with KDE libs on your system. You can mix and match all you want with no problems
[04:38] <boontoo> jarrod: get one of those rubber straps
[04:38] <Flannel> Flicker: Does the mc package show up in synaptic?
[04:38] <scguy318> Flicker: im not sure what your problem is, I see the mc package in Synaptic just fine
[04:38] <jarrod> boontoo: im not really into that kind of thing...
[04:38] <Bonster> mssever: ill give it a try, i though u could not because they didnt make and packages for gnome
[04:38] <Flicker> scguy318: can you please pastebin  your source list file?
[04:39] <Flicker> if you dont mind?
[04:39] <boontoo> jarrod: hahaha not what your thinking, you can get a anti static cord from IT stores
[04:39] <scguy318> Flicker: sure
[04:40] <scguy318> Flicker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42778/
[04:40] <dibblego> what package includes the X11 libraries?
[04:40] <mssever> Bonster: Gnome and KDE are desktop environments that don't care what programs you use with them. Some people write programs that integrate nicely with one or the other, but they'll run on either provided you have the correct dependencies. And the package manager will ensure that that happens.
[04:40] <dcstimm> help me, I have mplayer and a geforcefx 6200 agp card with nvidia drivers and the output of mplayer is all garbled, what can I do!?
[04:41] <frederick85> help i set shift + a to pain fire on the screen with compiz and i turned it off now my shift + a key doesn't print A characters
[04:41] <Bonster> mssever: is that the same goes for xfce?
[04:41] <petafile> what n64 emulators are available under ubuntu?
[04:41] <scguy318> Bonster: yep
[04:41] <scguy318> !emulator
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <scguy318> petafile: lots I think
[04:41] <mssever> Bonster: yes
[04:41] <scguy318> petafile: mupen, MAME, etc.
[04:42] <petafile> MAME isn't n64
[04:42] <scguy318> petafile: true
[04:42] <dcstimm> what is the best -vo setting for mplayer? xv or gl2 or something else?
[04:42] <mssever> Bonster: Note, however, that your performance will suffer somewhat when using KDE apps on Gnome or vice versa, since you're in effect running part of both environments
[04:43] <scguy318> petafile: a simple google search should give you other apps of interest, and you can fire up Synaptic and look at the Games and Amusement section
[04:43] <humblerodent> Lol, don't soil your Sunday pants.  Instead, let's do some song and dance.  Lol yeah, sing it with me.  Here we go.  The world owes us a living.  *plays fiddle*
[04:43] <Optimus55> hey, is there any way to force an .mdf file to mount in ubuntu?
[04:43] <ganjaman> can i upgrade a ubuntu server installation with the desktop version?
[04:43] <scguy318> Optimus55: AcetoneISO2
[04:43] <ganjaman> an*
[04:43] <scguy318> Optimus55: you'll have to find debs for that tho
[04:43] <petafile> scguy318: yeah, got it, i'm trying to get something to work with fink, and mupen isn't listed ( on OS X)
[04:44] <scguy318> Optimus: or you could convert the MDF to ISO with mdf2iso
[04:44] <frederick85> help i set shift + a to pain fire on the screen with compiz and i turned it off now my shift + a key doesn't print A characters
[04:44] <Bonster> cool
[04:44] <boontoo> %04d
[04:44] <boontoo> oops
[04:44] <dcstimm> hey guys, I want to set alt + q to close my windows, how can I achieve this?
[04:44] <mssever> frederick85: Have you logged off, hit <Ctrl><Alt><Backspace> and logged back in?
[04:45] <Optimus55> scguy318: mdf to iso? okay i'll look into them. acetone works well for mdf?
[04:45] <frederick85> mssever: no i'll try it
[04:45] <scguy318> Optimus55: yeah, its a frontend for fuseiso really
[04:45] <mssever> dcstimm: In Gnome apps, you can hold your mouse over the appropriate menu entry and hit the key combo you want to change it
[04:46] <Optimus55> scguy318: neither of them are in the reps tho
[04:46] <Bonster> is in google
[04:46] <dcstimm> mssever, how?
[04:46] <mssever> dcstimm: In other apps, it depends on the specific app and/or GUI toolkit
[04:47] <BHSPitMonkey> Why should xchat be able to crash X?
[04:47] <scguy318> Optimus55: they aren't, though fuseiso should
[04:47] <scguy318> Optimus55: AcetoneISO2 isnt, there are debs for that
[04:47] <dcstimm> mssever, iv done it before, I just want alt+q to close windows
[04:47] <Optimus55> okay
[04:47] <mssever> dcstimm: Pull down the menu and hold your mouse over the item, then hit your key combo
[04:47] <gluttoy> why is my ubuntu live cd asking for a password?
[04:48] <mssever> dcstimm: Also, many/most window managers can do that type of thing
[04:48] <PsionicWiz> how do I get my laptop resolution to go higher than 1024X768??
[04:48] <mssever> I think that both metacity and compiz keep such settings in gconf
[04:49] <mssever> dcstimm: Now that I think about it, the window manager approach is probably a better one
[04:49] <dcstimm> how do i do it?
[04:49] <gluttoy> should my live cd ask for a password?
[04:49] <scguy318> gluttoy: not sure, though if you're dealing with the LiveCD user account, its ubuntu/ubuntu
[04:50] <Bonster> admin /admin
[04:50] <Bonster> guest/guest
[04:50] <Bonster> user/user
[04:50] <scguy318> Bonster: excellent user/pass combinations for production servers!!!1
[04:50] <Flicker> scguy318: did you edit that list by your self at all?
[04:50] <mssever> dcstimm: I don't remember the canonical way (I'm running IceWM currently), but if you launch gconf-editor and hunt a bit, you'll probably find something
[04:50] <scguy318> Flicker: nope
[04:51] <Bonster> yay
[04:51] <Flicker> it was autoinstalled for you?
[04:51] <Bonster> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2176025602905109829&hl=en
[04:51] <Flicker> you did NOTHING at all
[04:51] <scguy318> Flicker: nope
[04:51] <mssever> dcstimm: Are you running Metacity, Compiz, Beryl, some other WM?
[04:51] <scguy318> Flicker: just a simple matter of selecting the package then installing it
[04:51] <Flicker> how come i just fresh isntalled and i dont have that
[04:51] <scguy318> Flicker: either via Synaptic or apt-get/aptitude
[04:52] <Flicker> yes but when i do synaptic search for example mc i dont get midnight comamnder
[04:52] <scguy318> Flicker: its in the middle of the list
[04:52] <scguy318> Flicker: its just a beautified apt-cache search
[04:52] <Flicker> mc
[04:52] <ck27> Hey all i just have a quick stupid noob question
[04:52] <scguy318> ck27: shoot
[04:52] <IdleOne> scguy318: you did an upgrade from a previous version where you must have enabled universe and multiverse at some point
[04:52] <ck27> you know when your in windows like im in xchat right now
[04:53] <Bacta> Why doesn't Digg have a
[04:53] <ck27> and xchaqt: than the minimize maximize close
[04:53] <ck27> its huge
[04:53] <scguy318> IdleOne: it was a clean install
[04:53] <ck27> and i cant resize it
[04:53] <Big-E> Is the upgrade to 7.10 painless?
[04:53] <Bacta> "Mod down M$" gang like Microsoft has a "mod down Ubuntu" group?
[04:53] <scguy318> Big-E: yes
[04:53] <scguy318> ck27: maybe your res is low?
[04:53] <mssever> ck27: Please try to keep your questions on one line; they're much easier to follow that way
[04:53] <Bonster> painful
[04:53] <Syrra> so, I had a error 21 and apparently reinstalling grub fixed it? Anyway, I'm also having symptoms of this nautilus signal 11 bug :/
[04:54] <ck27> hang on let me change my resoultion
[04:54] <IdleOne> need some help with Epiphany http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42692/
[04:54] <ck27> nope it didn't work
[04:55] <mssever> IdleOne: What are you trying to accomplish?
[04:55] <scguy318> mssever: it would seem Epiphany isn't working for him
[04:55] <IdleOne> mssever: im tryingto get epiphany to start
[04:55] <IdleOne> mssever: was working fine yesterday and today nothing
[04:55] <scguy318> ck27: so basically the borders of the window extend past beyond the screen?
[04:55] <mssever> IdleOne: scguy318 Oh, did I just jump in the middle of a conversation?
[04:55] <scguy318> ck27: and you cant really reach it to resize?
[04:56] <scguy318> mssever: not at all
[04:56] <IdleOne> mssever: nope you didnt
[04:56] <qazwsx> how can I create a dos bootable usb flash drive under ubuntu?
[04:56] <ck27> no its just the top part of the windows like Im using xchat to be in here right now.  Xchat is in this huge blue backgroun
[04:56] <ck27> and it takes up half the program
[04:57] <scguy318> ck27: hmm, dunno then :(
[04:57] <ck27> I have a screenshot and its like that on all applications
[04:57] <tclineks> is there anything special about the domain named 'local'? i'm trying to get dnsmasq to automatically answer 127.0.0.1 for *.local -- dig shows it resolving but pings hang.  *.local2 or *.(anything) works just fine though. any thoughts?
[04:57] <mssever> IdleOne: Have you tried reinstalling epiphany? That often doesn't fix problems, but sometimes it does and it's easy to try
[04:57] <IdleOne> mssever: just thought about that myself
[04:58] <IdleOne> mssever: going to give it a shot
[04:58] <mssever> tclineks: .local causes conflicts with avahi
[04:58] <tclineks> mssever: ahh, i see
[04:58] <mssever> tclineks: I used to use it, but I've since changed to avoid problems
[04:58] <tclineks> mssever: odd that it resolves but doesn't ping =/
[04:58] <crdlb> IdleOne: looks like your dbus session bus isn't running
[04:58] <tclineks> any good workaround?
[04:59] <IdleOne> crdlb: ok how do I fix that
[04:59] <mssever> tclineks: I never experienced those specific problems. My solution was to change all my domains to .mss
[04:59] <crdlb> no idea ;)
[05:00] <IdleOne> crdlb: hehe
[05:00] <ck27> im gong to upload a screenshot
[05:00] <ck27> to my site
[05:00] <IdleOne> gonna try re-installing
[05:00] <tclineks> mssever: would it fuck up avahi to change it's domain away from local?
[05:00] <crdlb> IdleOne: google seems to confirm my guess
[05:00] <crdlb> !language | tclineks
[05:00] <ubotu> tclineks: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:00] <mssever> IdleOne: crdlb : Log out and back in?
[05:00] <IdleOne> !ohmy | tclineks
[05:00] <ubotu> tclineks: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:01] <IdleOne> mssever: beats me but worth a shot
[05:01] <tclineks> christ
[05:01] <crdlb> IdleOne: sounds good, if not try dbus-launch epiphany
[05:01] <crdlb> should work at least as a workaround
[05:01] <bloony> when I do  "sudo mount -o /dev /oldsystem/dev" I get the error "mount: can't find /oldsystem/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" I've booted with the ubuntu live cd cause I have problem installing grub to the mbr..
[05:01] <mmschnei> Is there a known memory leak in conky? (major leak too, takes up a GB of ram or so in about 4 hours)
[05:01] <mssever> tclineks: I don't know for sure, but avahi needs to use .local to interact properly with other machines that use .local (Including Macs)
[05:01] <tclineks> mssever: alright, thanks
[05:02] <virgin> halloowwwwwwwwwwww
[05:02] <bloony> when I do  "sudo mount -o /dev /oldsystem/dev" I get the error "mount: can't find /oldsystem/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" I've booted with the ubuntu live cd cause I have problem installing grub to the mbr. /oldsystem is mounted to my / on /dev/sda1
[05:02] <mssever> !repeat | bloony
[05:02] <ubotu> bloony: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:03] <scguy318> bloony: looks like bad syntax
[05:03] <qazwsx> howhow do I get freedos under ubuntu?
[05:03] <scguy318> bloony: why the -o?
[05:03] <scguy318> bloony: it should be sudo mount /device /mnt/point -o optionshere
[05:03] <bloony> scguy318: look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3675034#post3675034
[05:03] <sacamano> i know this is a really simple question (sorry) but where is system themes?
[05:03] <bloony> mssever: yeah.. just updated it abit:)
[05:04] <Vuen> hi, my harddrive has been churning away for about five minutes now, and i'm doing absolutely nothing. how do i figure out what process is doing this?
[05:04] <kkathman> sacamano,  are you on gutsy?
[05:04] <Vuen> it's writing like crazy, it won't stop
[05:04] <sacamano> kkathman yessir
[05:04] <px> hi
[05:04] <Vuen> and i'm doing *nothing*, i just booted in fact
[05:04] <linuxidiot> Vuen: top?
[05:04] <scguy318> Vuen: its probably traackerd
[05:04] <kkathman> sacamano,  system - prefs - appearances
[05:04] <scguy318> Vuen: *trackerd
[05:04] <ck27> ok i got my newb problem on a image
[05:04] <sacamano> vuen, try typing Top in your terminal and see whats consuming CPU
[05:04] <Optimus55> scguy318: the .deb for acetone is really hard to find....
[05:04] <px> is there a fix for the suspend/hibernate in gutsy with fglrx?
[05:04] <ck27> http://www.myonelife.net/windowslarge.png  the xchat with the huge squares that is huge
[05:04] <sacamano> haha thanks katthman
[05:04] <ck27> how do i get rid of it
[05:04] <kkathman> sacamano,  my pleasure
[05:04] <ck27> and its on all windows
[05:04] <Bonster> probally HD bug that kills HD
[05:05] <px> is there a fix for the suspend/hibernate in gutsy with fglrx?
[05:05] <px> uswsusp does not work for me?
[05:05] <px> uswsusp does not work for me...
[05:05] <bloony> scguy318: did you open the forum url?
[05:05] <hisaac> hmm... worked for me
[05:05] <Bonster> there was 1
[05:05] <scguy318> bloony: sure did, but why are you following the post?
[05:05] <sacamano> does anyone else here think compiz-fusion < beryl?
[05:06] <scguy318> Optimus55: you could try building from source, though I do have the debs somewhere on my HDD
[05:06] <linuxidiot> Vuen: is it responding? or locked up?
[05:06] <linuxidiot> Vuen: try the top command
[05:06] <DisabledDuck> anybody have a list of the software that comes with Ubuntu Studio?
[05:06] <linuxidiot> Vuen: there are cronjobs that go nuts on your hard drive.
[05:06] <px> hisaac: how did you do it?
[05:06] <scguy318> Optimus55: you really could simply try using fuseiso directly
[05:06] <bloony> scguy318: I got that same problem
[05:06] <Optimus55> scguy318: it does the same thing, mount mdf?
[05:06] <scguy318> Optimus55: thats the core of it, AcetoneISO2 is just a frontend for it
[05:06] <Vuen> linuxidiot: it stopped now. the computer was responding the whole time, working fine but very sluggish
[05:06] <Bonster> u need to add Options "VBERestore" "yes"
[05:06] <Bonster> to ur xorg.conf
[05:07] <Vuen> linuxidiot: argh, so frustrating, it does this every now and then and by the time i get help it's too late
[05:07] <Optimus55> scguy318: okay thanks
[05:07] <scguy318> bloony: why not just use, say, Super GRUB CD to reinstall GRUB?
[05:07] <bloony> scguy318: Ive been trying to get grub installed for three days now and fail all the time..
[05:08] <bloony> hmm
[05:08] <scguy318> !grub
[05:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:08] <scguy318> see the first link
[05:08] <|neon|> GO SOX !!! :)~
[05:08] <codename> i need some help with Compiz expo plugin
[05:08] <scguy318> its not that difficult to reinstall GRUB
[05:08] <codename> what do i press to activate it
[05:08] <linuxidiot> Vuen: try the 'ps ax' command to see all processes going on the next time that happends.  If you see some 'find' command running, that could be it
[05:08] <scguy318> linuxidiot: ps aux
[05:08] <bloony> scguy318: but I dont have a windows partition...
[05:08] <Bonster> windows+e
[05:08] <scguy318> bloony: no matter, the instructions apply
[05:08] <macogw> codename: it's called "scale"
[05:08] <codename> what do i press to do it
[05:08] <codename> or what button combo
[05:09] <macogw> codename: what'd you set it for?
[05:09] <codename> iunno
[05:09] <Bonster> win+E
[05:09] <codename> i just enabled
[05:09] <codename> the effects
[05:09] <HolidayB> hey guys.. quick question.. got gusty up and running.. no problem.. got a samba share..
[05:09] <scguy318> bloony: if you installed LILO and you wanted GRUB back, you would do the same thing tbh
[05:09] <Vuen> linuxidiot: i've tried doing that before, and the offending process wasn't showing up. it doesn't seem to use much cpu power even though it makes the hdd go nuts.
[05:09] <bloony> scguy318: for sure is that difficult for a novice.. and Ive followed alot of threads but nothing works..
[05:09] <macogw> codename: are you using compizconfig-settings-manager?
[05:09] <HolidayB> is there a way to automount a samba share, in windows.. without me having to type my credentials everytime?
[05:09] <codename> yep
[05:09] <scguy318> bloony: then burn yourself a Super GRUB CD and boot to it
[05:09] <Lunks> How to disable a Kernel Module?
[05:09] <codename> :)
[05:09] <scguy318> Lunks: blacklist it
[05:09] <bloony> hum
[05:09] <bloony> ok
[05:09] <macogw> codename: you have to enable the Scale plugin in there, and check the "actions" tab inside Scale and see what it says
[05:09] <macogw> codename: in General you can also set it to be one of the "hot corners" if you like
[05:09] <XsteelWolf> is there a command to disable all OSS drivers throughout the whole of ubuntu
[05:10] <|neon|> : HolidayB:
[05:10] <scguy318> XsteelWolf: OSS like Open Sound System?
[05:10] <Lunks> scguy318: using /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?
[05:10] <XsteelWolf> yes
[05:10] <HolidayB> yes
[05:10] <alka_trash> umm, hey I'm running 32bit right now (amd turon style) it supports 64bit, if I upgrade to 64bit will I still be able to execute 32bit programs?
[05:10] <codename> what is button 2
[05:10] <codename> im confused :(
[05:10] <XsteelWolf> everytime when some noise popup,it will affect my mplayer sound device
[05:10] <codename> im sorry
[05:10] <scguy318> Lunks: yes
[05:10] <Lunks> scguy318: I can't, trying to disable agpgart
[05:10] <scguy318> alka_trash: you'll have to use ia32-libs for that
[05:10] <crdlb> codename: click with the mouse wheel
[05:10] <linuxidiot> Vuen: do you have any cronjobs setup? or anythings like integrit or tripwire for file integrity/rootkit checking?
[05:10] <|neon|> : HolidayB: you could map it using you either my comour network olaces and recconnect at logon
[05:10] <codename> ok
[05:10] <bloony> scguy318: Ill have a look at it.. but the ubuntu install window disapear when it comes to 95% where its install the bootloader..
[05:10] <Lunks> scguy318: blacklist agpgart
[05:10] <codename> i have a laptop
[05:11] <Lunks> scguy318: this should do, but it's getting loaded
[05:11] <crdlb> codename: then press right and left simultaneously
[05:11] <IdleOne> scguy318: re-installing epipphany did nothing but dbus-launch epiphany did launch it so perhaps I need to logout and back in the get dbus running again?
[05:11] <HolidayB> i believe, that when I log off, and log back on.. it doesnt reconnect
[05:11] <crdlb> if it doesn't have a middle button
[05:11] <|neon|> sorry for my bad englis I"M drunk
[05:11] <HolidayB> in fact.. i know it doesnt
[05:11] <HolidayB> i have to retype credentials
[05:11] <XsteelWolf> scguy318, any idea how?
[05:11] <|neon|> you should if you map it\
[05:11] <tehtuuurk> Anyone here current on their system security knowledge?
[05:11] <Flicker> scguy318: iam reinstalling  my /dev/sda  is type ext3  is that ok?
[05:12] <scguy318> yep
[05:12] <codename> i did nothing happens
[05:12] <scguy318> XsteelWolf: i dont
[05:12] <bloony> scguy318: and the installation does not even make a /boot/grub folder..
[05:12] <Lunks> scguy318: blacklist agpgart
[05:12] <Lunks> scguy318: this should do, but it's getting loaded
[05:12] <|neon|> and tell it to relogon
[05:12] <Flicker> scguy318: Thank you !!!!
[05:12] <HolidayB> yea, i was just curious if there was a way to do it where I dont have to retype credentials..
[05:12] <HolidayB> where it just mounts it
[05:12] <tehtuuurk> ok, what happened to sentry tools /portsentry... it hasn't been updated since 2003!
[05:12] <scguy318> Lunks: dunno then
[05:12] <tehtuuurk> it used to be the standard (so to speak)
[05:13] <Lunks> thanks =)
[05:13] <codename> whats the super button
[05:13] <HolidayB> windows button
[05:13] <Vuen> linuxidiot: my crontab just has the four folders ubuntu set up. cron.hourly is empty, and the rest are set to run at 6am (which it is presently not.)
[05:13] <|neon|> is IPBLOCK acting funny on gutsssy or is it just me?
[05:13] <codename> thanks!
[05:14] <tehtuuurk> anyone know of a good channel to ask linux security questions?
[05:14] <macogw> codename: i thought button 2 was right click and button 3 was middle (or both) click
[05:14] <tehtuuurk>  security specific, that is?
[05:14] <codename> not sure
[05:14] <alka_trash> scguy318: thanks, are there issues with this? slowness?
[05:14] <codename> super plus e worked
[05:14] <codename> i pressed super and e and it worked
[05:14] <codename> thanks!
[05:15] <scguy318> alka_trash: not really, though it takes a bit of work, you'll only need to deal with it for, say, 32-bit Firefox (for 32-bit plugins like Java)
[05:15] <scguy318> alka_trash: the repositories have 64-bit packages, so you should be set
[05:15] <CoasterMaster_> Should I really be worried about this: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[05:15] <alka_trash> awesome - thanks again
[05:15] <Vuen> CoasterMaster_: depends. do you have a laptop, and do you often run on battery power?
[05:16] <oldsickclown> I'm having trouble setting the password for the initial installation of mysql
[05:16] <linuxidiot> do most ubuntu users just stick with gnome desktop?  I remember back in the days of fvwm.  Those were the good old days
[05:16] <scguy318> CoasterMaster_: not really unless you're affected
[05:16] <|neon|> tehtuuurk: you could ask here as we have a wide diversity of smart gguys/gals that migh t have the answer
[05:16] <CoasterMaster_> Vuen, yes I have a laptop and I usually run it on batteries about 10 hours a week
[05:16] <CoasterMaster_> other than that it's always on
[05:16] <endlessurf> hey all I was wondering if you could pair a phone with a comp and use the comp to dial out to phone numbers
[05:16] <scguy318> CoasterMaster_: its really a case of Ubuntu letting the hard drive do what it wants, with the want being a nasty cycle
[05:17] <Vuen> CoasterMaster_: hmm, then look in the bug report to see how to check your load count. if it's abnormally high, you'll want to do the hotfixes they suggest
[05:17] <scguy318> endlessurf: modem? sure
[05:17] <tehtuuurk> what happened to sentry tools /portsentry... it hasn't been updated since 2003!
[05:17] <tehtuuurk> is there a good replacement
[05:17] <DisabledDuck> does anyone have a list of the software that comes with Ubuntu Studio?
[05:17] <bloony> whats wrong when I get error 17: cannot mount selected partition in grub when doing setup(hd0)
[05:17] <opopanax> is there a resolution to the open source radeon black screen issue?
[05:17] <CoasterMaster_> Vuen, scguy318 thanks checking....i'm installing smartmontools now
[05:17] <Bonster> blue screen of death
[05:17] <opopanax> I'm using an older card, firegl9000, and fglrx no longer supports it.
[05:18] <endlessurf> scguy318 I know you can use it as a modem, but i would like to make and receive phone calls from my comp using my cell number
[05:18] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: I have, it's just that this chan has a more broad scope
[05:19] <oldsickclown> Hello all, looking for somebody to help me with mysql installation.
[05:19] <scguy318> endlesssurf: in that case I'm not too wise
[05:19] <Vuen> endlessurf: if your computer has a bluetooth card, then there's almost certainly a way. my palm pilot can dial my phone, so there must be something for computers
[05:19] <linuxidiot> DisabledDuck: I bet it's just the same as Ubuntu regular
[05:19] <CoasterMaster> scguy318, I ran it, and I see several cycle counts....
[05:20] <linuxidiot> It's just got some fancy wallpapers
[05:20] <CoasterMaster> my load_cycle_count is 674431
[05:20] <Vuen> oof!
[05:20] <Vuen> how old is the laptop?
[05:20] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: see? :P
[05:20] <CoasterMaster> Vuen, it's about 2 years old now
[05:21] <scguy318> CoasterMaster: yeah, you might wanna try the workarounds
[05:21] <Vuen> mm. how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:21] <Biju> Hi , I am atr a friends house who has broadband and is running Windows how may I download some of the packages I need for my Ubuntu istall to a USB stick so I may use on my computer? I am looking for gstreamer,xine,flash,java,win32codecs .
[05:21] <CoasterMaster> Vuen, but the hard drive is newer and I've used Ubuntu a total of 4 months
[05:21] <scguy318> Biju: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:21] <|neon|> tehtuuurk: i feel you,   i'll help but i'm too drunk at the moment
[05:21] <Biju> Thank you
[05:21] <Vuen> CoasterMaster: yikes. looks like you may be a victim of this bug. :(
[05:21] <codename> with the firepaint
[05:21] <Vuen> CoasterMaster: definitely do the fixes in the bug report.
[05:22] <codename> it like goes to the dark screen with a fire
[05:22] <codename> but i can write anything
[05:22] <HolidayB> neon.. did you ever think of a way to have windows automount?
[05:22] <ziggles> are you guys talking about the spin up / spin down bug?
[05:22] <codename> it just acts like its not there
[05:22] <oldsickclown> Here's an error while setting up MySQL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42782/
[05:22] <codename> Whats Button1
[05:22] <HolidayB> left click?
[05:22] <HolidayB> left mouse button
[05:22] <bluefox83> what the heck is gdl_fs_crawler?
[05:22] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: LOL, not drunk yet, but working on it....
[05:22] <|neon|> ziggles: windows like "windows"
[05:23] <HolidayB> two should be right and three should be middle
[05:23] <DisabledDuck> linuxidiot: no, it comes with a LOT more
[05:23] <scguy318> CoasterMaster: i believe the reason is that the hard disk manufacturers are putting insensible defaults for their power management
[05:23] <ziggles> neon i cant trust you... i just saw you say ur drunk :)
[05:23] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: I hope my firewall at work doesn't lock up again, 'cause I'll have to wake my boss to reset it
[05:23] <codename> how do i write with fire paint
[05:23] <codename> do i need anyother plugins installed
[05:23] <CoasterMaster> scguy318, Vuen ok, I did the fix involving the 99-hdd-spin-fix.sh file
[05:23] <opopanax> first, you set the paint on fire...
[05:23] <|neon|> ziggles: i pppreffered to called it mentally challenge
[05:23] <ziggles> LoL
[05:23] <HolidayB> codename.. do you have compizz running?
[05:24] <codename> yep
[05:24] <codename> it shows the fire
[05:24] <codename> like a little dot
[05:24] <codename> but i can do anything with it
[05:24] <codename> cant*
[05:24] <Flynsarmy> oldsickclown: Try mysql -uroot -p<pw>
[05:24] <|neon|> can         someone program the bot to say that     kubuntu is the sama as ubuntu with a K at the front for KICK ASS
[05:25] <tehtuuurk> codename: you use a lighter to set a bucket of paint on fire and then you use a water soaked paintbrush with the paint to paint with
[05:25] <tehtuuurk> codename: lol?
[05:25] <endlessurf> hey has anyone else notice that sbc throttles your download speed when trying to up date ubuntu???????????
[05:25] <Lunks> I can't enable Nvidia AGP module, because agpgart keeps loading, no matter what i do. :(
[05:26] <opopanax> lunks, did you blacklist agpgart?
[05:26] <oldsickclown> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline' is what I got now flyn
[05:26] <Lunks> opopanax: yes, i entered 'blacklist agpgart' on /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:26] <|neon|> offtopic    some keyed my car at dinner tonight and i'm pissy
[05:26] <ck27> quick question what the best program for ubuntu to run windows applications
[05:26] <Lunks> even added agpart as I thought it could be a strange typo, but still nothing
[05:26] <opopanax> lunks ok
[05:26] <ck27> like trillian and stuff
[05:26] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: that sucks....
[05:27] <|neon|> ck27: crossover,   wwwwinnnnnndodoors
[05:27] <|neon|> tehtuuurk: tell me about i don't even want to know how much it will be to fix and if i would let my insurance cover it
[05:28] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: my wife works for a body shop, too bad you don't live near me
[05:28] <|neon|> ck27: crossover,   winedoors
[05:28] <CyberWorld> can someone tell me how to reinstall grub after vista install on another partition
[05:28] <|neon|> seattle baby
[05:28] <scguy318> ck27: Wine
[05:29] <scguy318> ck27: Crossover is payware, I guess if you care about support you could use that
[05:29] <scguy318> ck27: Wine Doors, well, i think its just a script-ish thing?
[05:29] <phaedra> !grub | CyberWorld
[05:29] <opopanax> lunks:  it's definitely agpgart.
[05:29] <ubotu> CyberWorld: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:29] <tehtuuurk> texas yo
[05:29] <scguy318> ck27: the Wine AppDb may be of help and may be up to date
[05:29] <|neon|> ck27: for an easy installation on most miicrocrap producrs  crossover is the way
[05:29] <DanaG> bug 111145
[05:29] <|neon|> you want more  o a gamers setup winedoors
[05:29] <tehtuuurk> !portsentry | CyberWorld
[05:29] <DanaG> How do you use OpenAL apps on Wine?
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portsentry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <|neon|> ultimately they all use wine
[05:30] <Lunks> opopanax: it's there, but dmesg | grep -i agpgart tells me it's loaded, and that nvidia agp driver isn't loaded because there's agpgart.
[05:30] <scguy318> |neon|: bah plain Wine will do it :P
[05:30] <buttercups> CyberWorld, , do you have a live cd laying around?
[05:30] <DanaG> I tried it after installing Creative's "Host OpenAL", but it didn't work.
[05:30] <ck27> everyone keeps recommending cross over
[05:30] <ck27> so ill get that
[05:30] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/111145
[05:31] <ezzieyguywuf> how do i format an external hard drive in ubuntu?
[05:31] <bluefox83> !gdl_fs_crawler
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdl_fs_crawler - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <|neon|> ck27: they all going to have some pros and cons figured out what your intenet is and go from there    last result use parallels
[05:32] <phaedra> ezzieyguywuf,  Gpaeted is good.
[05:32] <Vuen> ezzieyguywuf: you could use mke2fs on the device, but i'm not sure if that's a good idea. i don't actually know.
[05:32] <phaedra> gparted rather...
[05:32] <ezzieyguywuf> phaedra: does it have a gui?
[05:32] <DanaG> ubotu: bug 111145
[05:32] <DanaG> gaaack.
[05:32] <scguy318> ezzieyguywuf: mkfs no, GPartEd yes
[05:32] <|neon|> qparted best to do that
[05:32] <Vuen> ezzieyguywuf: ah yes, gparted should do it. gparted is gui yes, it's quite nice
[05:32] <phaedra> ezzieyguywuf, Yes it does...
[05:32] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks guys
[05:32] <|neon|> gparted
[05:33] <DanaG> Duuude, read the <insert fun word here> link's title!
[05:33] <riotkittie> uh
[05:33] <tehtuuurk> what happened to sentry tools / portsentry... it hasn't been updated since 2003! is there a good replacement?!!
[05:34] <|neon|> anyone running gutsy on a X38 chipset?
[05:34] <tehtuuurk> x38, thats a new one :P
[05:34] <tehtuuurk> or is x38 a real chipset and not a typo
[05:34] <|neon|> tehtuuurk: not much newer than the P35 which i am running gutsy flawlessly
[05:35] <opopanax> lunks, what is your nvAGP setting in your xorg.conf?
[05:35] <|neon|> X38 is tha latest intel chipset
[05:35] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: ooh, sweet
[05:35] <tehtuuurk> yeah just googled it
[05:36] <|neon|> my p35 is running my quad q6600 at 3.9ghz easily WC
[05:36] <tehtuuurk> not up on my intel stuff I'm afraid... I mostly run AMD stuff
[05:37] <ezzieyguywuf> do not see an option in gparted for formatting
[05:37] <Biju> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413626 this thread describes the process of enabling Multimedia in Ubuntu (W32Codecs etc) for Feisty, is it the same process for Gutsy?
[05:37] <|neon|> got to go wife is giving me the winky eye, u all have a great night/day wherver u may be
[05:38] <|neon|> tehtuuurk: i retired my dual socke dual core tyam        mobo with 4 gig of ram and running ClarckConnect on it
[05:38] <scguy318> |neon|: have a good night then
[05:38] <ToddEDM> how do i mount the CD-rom so i can read whats on it ?
[05:39] <scguy318> ToddEDM: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/point
[05:39] <Flynsarmy> I have a networked windows pc. I can access my media files on it in rhythmbox but not vnc. any ideas?
[05:39] <tehtuuurk> |neon|: want to sell it?
[05:39] <opopanax> lunks:  you also need to blacklist agpgart in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:39] <ToddEDM> thx scguy318
[05:39] <dxdt> what does Autoraise mean when it comes to windows and the Autoraise delay?
[05:39] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: VLC?
[05:39] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: VLC media player
[05:40] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: reason is that VLC doesn't handle smb://
[05:40] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: whereas Rhythmbox and those other GNOME apps can handle smb://
[05:40] <tehtuuurk> reason is you're using windows :P
[05:40] <ToddEDM> scguy318: i do not think it is mounting my drive
[05:40] <Flynsarmy> Damn :( Rhymbox sucks though. I can't figure out how to keep the aspect ratio as the window resizes
[05:40] <whyameye> why would it be that suspend doesn't work UNLESS I hibernate 1x first?
[05:40] <lukewarm83> Hello
[05:40] <scguy318> ToddEDM: explain
[05:41] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: a workaround would be to mount the SMB share using smbfs
[05:41] <Flynsarmy> tehtuuurk: Hey, on windows everything is simple and easy. on ubuntu every task is a challenge
[05:41] <lukewarm83> My Xgl process is hogging my CPU
[05:41] <dxdt> whyameye: interesting problem.  My guess would be that the hibernate scripts are killing off a service that is otherwise not killed in suspend to ram and that process is keeping suspend to ram from working
[05:41] <ToddEDM> well.. after i typed that in... the cursor just goes down to the next line but i dont get "todd@todd-laptop:~$"
[05:42] <tehtuuurk> Flynsarmy: until something breaks, then it becomes a different story. :)
[05:42] <ToddEDM> scguy318: its like its waiting to do something but not...
[05:42] <codename> last question, how do i install themes
[05:42] <codename> like GTK themes
[05:42] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: Newbie here. How would i do that? Also what would happen if i turned the windows pc off?
[05:42] <tehtuuurk> Flynsarmy: just givin you a hard time, though, don't take it personally
[05:42] <codename> or STles
[05:42] <scguy318> ToddEDM: stalled, hmm
[05:42] <bk> hello - how do I set up the Gnome-rdp settings to log into my desktop
[05:42] <codename> Styles
[05:43] <DaveyJ> hola!
[05:43] <DaveyJ> i think my sound died out of no where
[05:43] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: sudo apt-get install smbfs, then sudo mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/point -o lfs,rw
[05:43] <DaveyJ> it was working, now its not, even tried rebooting
[05:43] <ToddEDM> when i use the GUI to navigate to the CD/dvdrom it just tells me not able to mount
[05:43] <DaveyJ> is there a way to check the sound system
[05:43] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: if you turned the PC off while it's mounted, the unmaintained smbfs would kinda just kill itself, thus preventing you from unmounting it for a bit
[05:44] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: there probably are better solutions
[05:44] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: It'd start working again as soon as i turned the pc on?
[05:44] <whyameye> dxdt: and somehow when I resume from hibernate that killed process is not 'revived'?
[05:44] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: not sure
[05:44] <leladia> pls how do u knw a userid that has never being used
[05:44] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: The windows pc also needs a password to get onto the network. The keyring manager is currently handling that but would it stsill work with your mmethod?
[05:45] <scguy318> ToddEDM: weird, dunno, try a reboot?
[05:45] <ToddEDM> scguy318: i think i will
[05:45] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: yeah, you'll be prompted for password when you mount I think
[05:45] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: lemme look for a better solution
[05:45] <bk> could someone help me with remote desktop stuff?
[05:45] <Zippy2> bk: ask a question
[05:46] <bk> how do I set up the Gnome-rdp settings to log into my desktop
[05:46] <Zippy2> ive never used gnome-rdp. ive used rdesktop
[05:46] <racarter> how do i find out if my processor is a 64 bit one?
[05:46] <Zippy2> rdesktop -u username -a24 ipofyourdesktop (in terminal)
[05:46] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: this thread may be of interest http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=595663
[05:46] <Zippy2> racarter: cat /proc/cpuinfo and check out the features
[05:46] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: Thanks :)
[05:47] <bk> I don' tknow that it matters - I just need to know what settings I would put in for all the properties
[05:47] <Crankymonky> What's a good applet for CPU temperature?
[05:47] <scguy318> Crankymoney: sensors-applet
[05:47] <Zippy2> bk: i have no idea what that means
[05:47] <scguy318> Crankymoney: thats a package
[05:47] <Crankymonky> I figured^^
[05:47] <racarter> clflush size    : 64
[05:48] <Zippy2> racarter: no clue
[05:48] <racarter> i am not sure what i should be looking for in this output
[05:48] <Zippy2> pastebin the output
[05:49] <dahitokiri> what're some good bittorrent clients for linux?
[05:49] <Crankymonky> utorrent
[05:50] <Zippy2> freshmeat.net
[05:50] <Zippy2> sf.net
[05:50] <scguy318> !torrent
[05:50] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:50] <Crankymonky> utorrent and use wine, for.the.win(e)
[05:50] <bk> I tried the rdesktop before as well and it keeps saying no route to host in both
[05:50] <racarter> azureus keeps crashing on me
[05:50] <Zippy2> bk: that's a network issue, not remote desktop issue
[05:50] <isleshocky78> Anyone have any idea why bind in ubuntu 7.10 isn't assigning $ORIGIN correctly?  It keeps putting a . instead.
[05:51] <rredd4> is this > CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.1 Simplified <  the PPD/Driver?  (updating ubuntu wiki)
[05:51] <bk> I am just using a crossover cable between nics - I am able to get internet to it.
[05:51] <Zippy2> what is the ip of each machine
[05:51] <Zippy2> ip and subnet mask
[05:51] <bk> 198.168.0.1    198.168.0.2
[05:51] <The-KMT> hello there
[05:51] <Crankymonky> scguy318, After I installed sensors-applet how can I get the option to display in panel?
[05:51] <Zippy2> both 255.255.255.0?
[05:52] <bk> yup
[05:52] <scguy318> Crankymoney: right click, Add to Panel
[05:52] <Zippy2> bk: what is the ip of the remote desktop server?
[05:52] <The-KMT> can anyone help me to repare an external hard drive ?
[05:52] <bk> I guess I am not sure which is the server
[05:52] <Zippy2> bk: the server is the machine you are connecting to
[05:52] <dahitokiri> you guys should add bittornado to that torrent client list
[05:52] <bk> 198.168.0.1
[05:52] <racarter> on ubuntu 7.10, if i click the sound icon, i get this: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[05:52] <Qwexer> sigh, still no sound on ubuntu
[05:53] <Zippy2> bk: is remote desktop firewalled?
[05:53] <bk> yes
[05:53] <Crankymonky> scguy318, I mean, I can't seem to find it  that list
[05:53] <Zippy2> well that might be the resaon it cant connect
[05:53] <bk> no
[05:53] <Zippy2> no route to host is another issue though
[05:53] <bk> I added a rule to allow it
[05:53] <Zippy2> a rule to windows xp firewall?
[05:53] <Qwexer> but I think I found what I need to do, now just need the driver name, anyone know where I could get the driver for my sound card?
[05:53] <The-KMT> there is no way to repare clusters with ubuntu ?
[05:53] <bk> they are both 8buntus
[05:53] <Crankymonky> scguy318, Nevermind, I just am blind
[05:53] <Qwexer> or what the command to config the asla
[05:54] <bk> *buntus
[05:54] <scguy318> The-KMT: you can't really "repair" bad sectors, but you can try to recover the information and mark them bad
[05:54] <Zippy2> bk: how do you have a remote desktop server in ubuntu? what program are you running?
[05:54] <scguy318> The-KMT: fsck can do it I think
[05:54] <The-KMT> how ?
[05:54] <genii> man fsck
[05:55] <bk> I guess maybe the machine I am trying to log onto does not have a program to serve its desktop
[05:55] <The-KMT> where can i find it ?
[05:55] <Qwexer> alsaconf doesnt work for me, is that the wrong command?
[05:55] <Zippy2> bk: thats probably correct
[05:55] <Zippy2> bk: i hear x11vnc is a good alternative in linux
[05:55] <Zippy2> i think thats the name of it
[05:55] <zetheroo> has anyone here heard of the recent HDD problem related to Ubuntu?
[05:55] <bk> I'll take a look
[05:55] <zetheroo> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/10/30/1742258.shtml
[05:55] <genii> Zippy2: freenx works extremely well also
[05:55] <Zippy2> woowee i got a gdm in debian in vmware
[05:56] <zetheroo> https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[05:56] <Zippy2> genii: i know. but thats based on commercial software, isnt it?
[05:56] <Crankymonky> zetheroo, Ya, I read the article, It's more technically a problem with hdd
[05:56] <Crankymonky> Im actually looking at my laptop now
[05:56] <bk> thats not the name of it
[05:56] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: do you know much about the issue ?
[05:56] <Crankymonky> Now, doing some research into it now
[05:56] <genii> Zippy2: Yes but then again so is vmware and other things
[05:56] <Crankymonky> no*
[05:57] <Zippy2> genii: im not advocating vmware, though
[05:57] <Crankymonky> Zeth, why do you ask?
[05:57] <riderrr> scguy318: I successfully installed Ubuntu!! ty
[05:57] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: seems like it is not certain whether it is a hardware problem of a software (Ubuntu) problem
[05:57] <riderrr> i have a qustion though
[05:57] <bk> I am trying to go from my laptop onto my desktop so
[05:57] <bk> install vmware onto the desktop?
[05:57] <genii> Zippy2: There are free packages of freenx at any rate. And it works well.
[05:58] <Crankymonky> It's a hardware problem than can be fixed via software as well
[05:58] <Crankymonky> zetheroo,
[05:58] <genii> Even ubotu knows of it
[05:58] <bk> and then some sort of rdp or vnc viewer on the laptop?
[05:58] <genii> !11111111111freenx
[05:58] <sacamano> random question- ive used ubuntu for a longass time, just upgraded to gutsy. seems like the boot time is longer.....but oddly enough, my screen is completely black
[05:58] <riderrr> what is the windows + r function and how do I stop my desktop from "tracking" my mouse?
[05:58] <sacamano> when its booting up, no Ubuntu plus load screen
[05:58] <genii> bah repeat key messssssssssy again
[05:58] <genii> !freenx
[05:58] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:58] <Crankymonky> zetheroo, It relates to a poor setting by the hdd maker and ubuntu is using the default setting, where windows would ignore it, for example
[05:58] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: so does the problem only effect your HDD if its Hitachi?
[05:59] <Crankymonky> No, it's other drives as well
[05:59] <Crankymonky> Check if it affects your
[05:59] <dn4> How do I get my RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro 0x0028 working with Gutsy?
[05:59] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: and also does it only effect your HDD if/when you use battery power?
[05:59] <Crankymonky> I believe so
[05:59] <Crankymonky> sudo apt-get smartmontools
[05:59] <scguy318> Crankymonky, zetheroo: its a hardware thing, I believe, due to improper hard drive manufacturer values
[06:00] <Crankymonky> and we can overwrite them if software values:)
[06:00] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: my laptop is fairly new..... about 6 months old.... and I have a load cycle count of 80349
[06:01] <racarter> i need help with sound on ubuntu
[06:01] <kaleh> hi all. which are those cpus flags in intel processors which support virtualization?
[06:01] <kaleh> vme, vmx?
[06:01] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: how is the problem fixed?.... and how do you know its fixed?
[06:01] <Crankymonky> Im still reading
[06:02] <DaveyJ> how do i check up on my sound daemon?
[06:02] <riderrr> anyone...i hit the windows key + r and now my window is moving with my mouse?
[06:02] <DaveyJ> alsa, or whatever
[06:03] <riderrr> how to stop?
[06:03] <The-KMT> if i do a partition on my external HDD can i restore my files ?
[06:03] <Crankymonky> zetheroo, My Load Cycle Count is 200,811
[06:03] <kaleh> what is the command to find out which flags are suppoerted by the processor?
[06:03] <kaleh> uname?
[06:03] <Crankymonky> And this laptop is 4 years old
[06:03] <Zippy2> kaleh: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:03] <Crankymonky> I bought it used last weekend.  So it had been running windows until then
[06:03] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: I see.... how long have you been running Ubuntu or Linux on it?
[06:03] <s88> hi all!!
[06:04] <sjovan> s88: hi
[06:04] <kaleh> Zippy2: if the vmx flag is mentioned, it means it is enabled also?
[06:04] <Crankymonky> zeth, the previous user used windows for 4 years, I've used linux for 3 days:P
[06:04] <riderrr> hi s88
[06:04] <riderrr> can u help me?
[06:04] <gogeta> !windows
[06:04] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:04] <s88> Did anyone install LCC(A Retargetable Compiler for ANSI C) on ubuntu before?
[06:04] <kaleh> lol
[06:05] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: well I guess it is 4 years old after all....
[06:05] <s88> I tried, but fail...
[06:05] <gogeta> fail
[06:05] <gogeta> who fail
[06:05] <Qwexer> what if I cant find my chipset on the ALSA soundcard supported list? what else could I use?
[06:05] <slapfaceware> rsync: readlink "/etc/rc3.d/S20assp" failed: Permission denied (13)
[06:05] <scrapbunny> I want to switch over from dual booting to ubuntu only but i need to access network drives from a windows 2003 server at work, is that possible?
[06:05] <zetheroo> Crankymonky: but would't you say that 80 thousand + for a 6 month old laptop is a bit much?
[06:05] <gogeta> Qwexer a supported soundcard
[06:05] <gogeta> LOL
[06:05] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here use pyNeighborhood?
[06:06] <s88> I fail to install LCC on ubuntu
[06:06] <Biju> By disabling APIC or ACPI am I putting my computer in any kind of risk ?
[06:06] <gogeta> not if its 80,000 yen
[06:06] <Qwexer> gogeta: sorry ask that again
[06:06] <gogeta> hehe
[06:06] <Qwexer> figured you left a word out
[06:06] <Crankymonky> zetheroo, Yes, check how many cycles in a minute, PM so don't have to clog up #ubuntu
[06:07] <s88> LCC's web site=>http://www.cs.princeton.edu/software/lcc/
[06:07] <gogeta> Qwexer said use supported soundcard
[06:07] <murlidhar> when i sudo apt-get install qbittorrent. i get an error :  Package qbittorrent has no installation candidate
[06:07] <gogeta> Qwexer not many are not
[06:08] <Qwexer> well I'm currently running ubuntu on a dell optiplex gx1 and that is a 440bx chipset, that is not on their list under intel
[06:08] <LordDicranius> I seem to be a retard when it comes to searching the Ubuntu Wiki.  I'm trying to find the wiki page with the Ubuntu buttons/badges that we can put on our site to link back to Ubuntu.  any help in finding that page?
[06:08] <Flannel> murlidhar: thats because its not in the repositories
[06:08] <sjovan> murlidhar: qtorrent is a prog, but i have heard about the prog you are talking about before. i think you ahve to google up a web site with a download
[06:09] <murlidhar> Flannel: when i press tab it autocompletes to qbittorrent
[06:09] <gogeta> Qwexer sometimes using a older model driver works
[06:09] <Flannel> murlidhar, sjovan, qtorrent is in the repos, in universe
[06:09] <Qwexer> gogeta: so like the 440mx version or something? that is on the list
[06:09] <tag-> I'm having some trouble with my super/windows key
[06:09] <gogeta> Qwexer worst thingit doesent work
[06:10] <murlidhar> Flannel: when i type qbit{tab} . then it autocompletes to qbittorrent
[06:10] <sjovan> muidhar: for ubuntu.... ----> deb http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/gutsy/ ./
[06:10] <sjovan> deb-src http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/gutsy/ .
[06:10] <tag-> it doesn't seem to work
[06:10] <tag-> basically
[06:10] <tag-> I want super+tab, but I don't get it....what's the deal
[06:10] <sjovan> muidhar: you have to add them to finde it
[06:10] <Qwexer> very true, i was going to but still trying to find what driver that one uses, hehe
[06:10] <Qwexer> I'll try now
[06:10] <murlidhar> sjovan: i added them when i had feisty
[06:10] <sjovan> muidhar: that's i386 only
[06:11] <sjovan> murlidhar: i gave you the adress a bit further up
[06:11] <sjovan> murlidhar: what do you have now then?
[06:11] <bloony> sjovan: hey.. still strugling with this grub thing.. :p
[06:11] <tag-> also having trouble with the rotate-cube stuff in compiz
[06:11] <murlidhar> sjovan: gutsy
[06:11] <tag-> ctrl+alt+right only flips the cube over, and back over (I switch two workspaces at a time, never just one)
[06:11] <sjovan> i386?
[06:11] <murlidhar> yes
[06:11] <tag-> although it *looks* like one
[06:11] <gogeta> Qwexer i had a card that did that i used the genrec sound blaster comptable driver lol
[06:12] <kaleh> which Open Source virtualization app should i go for? i want to run windows 2000
[06:12] <sjovan> murlidhar: deb http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/gutsy/ ./
[06:12] <gogeta> Qwexer worked
[06:12] <sjovan> deb-src http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/gutsy/ ./
[06:12] <xonic1> hi! i am trying to put the fix of harddrive loading-unloading bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 . But i dont see any entery starting with 193 when i issue the command "sudo  smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda" .  But i do see "225 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3434" . I am not able to interpret the output of this command. does it mean that my hard drive has been loaded-unloade
[06:12] <sjovan> bloony: what grub thing?
[06:12] <bloony> sjovan: you tried to help me yeasterday or the day before..
[06:12] <epax> kaleh: You can run VMware or Virtualbox.
[06:12] <gogeta> xonic1 perma fix acpi=off
[06:13] <sjovan> murlidhar: it did work right?
[06:13] <tag-> strange
[06:13] <xonic1> but that mean. no power saving at all
[06:13] <bloony> every example I find about installing grub is always referring to the /boot/grub directory.. but the installation dont even make that directory.. and I dont understand how I can install it manualy...
[06:13] <kaleh> epax: among xen and virtualbox which would u go for?
[06:13] <tag-> actually super works, just not super+tab
[06:13] <tag-> and alt+tab works, so wtf
[06:13] <gogeta> xonic1 desktop does not care
[06:13] <gogeta> lol
[06:13] <xonic1> this bug is highly critical for all laptop linux users as it reduces hard drive
[06:13] <xonic1> i am runing ubuntu on dell laptop
[06:14] <b1n42y> im glad someones brought this up after i did so before i went to sleep....the mission continues....and linux ROCKS
[06:14] <chuy_max> any idea on why I'm getting EXT3-fs: unsupported inode size: 0 in dmesg after trying to mount a hard disk (ext3)?
[06:14] <gogeta> xonic1 yeaa saw it on slashdot
[06:14] <murlidhar> sjovan: i am tryin
[06:14] <sjovan> bloony: normaly you make a own boot partision
[06:14] <gogeta> xonic1 i never liked acpi thow always been buggy
[06:14] <epax> kaleh: Well... I havent tryed Virtualbox but i have only heard goot things about that app... So i would go with VB.
[06:14] <gogeta> xonic1 save power ill turn off laptop
[06:14] <bloony> sjovan: tried that to.. but still the installation dont make a grub folder in there..
[06:14] <gogeta> xonic1 lol
[06:14] <kaleh> ok cool
[06:15] <kaleh> thank you :)
[06:15] <sjovan> murlidhar: you are trying but what?
[06:15] <b1n42y> tag- sorted your problem out
[06:15] <b1n42y> y?
[06:15] <murlidhar> sjovan: i don't remember where my sources.lst is?
[06:15] <xonic1> gogeta: do u understand the output of command " smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda" . i wanan check my hard disk
[06:16] <b1n42y> tag-, have you actually got more than 2 workspaces ?
[06:16] <gogeta> xonic1 can try
[06:16] <Ashex> Any Digg users out there?
[06:16] <gogeta> xonic1 i knoe abought harddisk enough
[06:16] <xonic1> do u see something startking with 193. i dont see anything
[06:16] <tag-> b1n42y: yes
[06:16] <Ashex> Please digg this if you love ubuntu :) http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_is_NOT_causing_aggressive_power_management
[06:16] <sjovan> bloony:murlidhar: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <sjovan> oopppss
[06:17] <sjovan> murlidhar: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <b1n42y> tag-, did u define them throught the advanced option general tab ?
[06:17] <Flynsarmy> scguy318: I tried both xSMBrowser and the other one mentioned on that page but neither work. xsm found 2 networks (Samba Config and Samba Config (Wins Service) but clicking on either returned an 'Unable to find Domain Master' error
[06:17] <gogeta> xonic1 i knoe it had something to do with the spinup/down times being to fast
[06:17] <tag-> b1n42y: I very much do, and if I drag the cube around with the mouse, I can see all of them.  But ctrl+alt+left and ctrl+alt+right don't get me to all of them.  It's behavior is just flat ass strange.
[06:17] <tag-> b1n42y: I set them up in the compiz settings manager
[06:18] <sjovan> bloony: have you tryed sudo apt-get install grub?
[06:18] <hegemon> The following packages have been kept back:
[06:18] <hegemon>   linux-image-686 linux-image-server linux-restricted-modules-686
[06:18] <bloony> sjovan: yes
[06:18] <tag-> I'm having some trouble with my super key too
[06:18] <hegemon> how to upgrade those packages?
[06:18] <xonic1> yes..i read one white paper regarding loading n unloading of hard disk reader head. it should not be frequent. but somehow default values are very high
[06:18] <hegemon> from command line
[06:18] <tag-> just super+tab really
[06:18] <b1n42y> tag-, under dekstop size ?
[06:18] <sjovan> bloony: and what error do you get?
[06:18] <bloony> sjovan: one sec
[06:19]  * Greyfox waves.
[06:19] <tag-> b1n42y: right, general options, desktop size
[06:19] <tag-> b1n42y: horizontal desktop size (4)
[06:19] <bloony> sjovan: sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/apt-get: Input/output error
[06:19] <gogeta> xonic1 well it uses whatever the manfucter set and i guess some drives are set high
[06:19] <b1n42y> tag-, horizontal virtual size ?
[06:19] <gogeta> xonic1 mostly couse windows ignores those and uses its own
[06:19] <bloony> sjovan: Im on the live cd now..
[06:19] <tag-> b1n42y: horizontal.
[06:19] <tag-> b1n42y: right.
[06:20] <Greyfox> Does anyone else happen to observe Firefox's application bar graphics going wonky every couple pages?
[06:20] <b1n42y> tag-, 1 screen ?
[06:20] <xonic1> yes.. thats true.. but how do i check the damage of harddisk..i dont understand the output of command  smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda
[06:20] <tag-> b1n42y: yes
[06:20] <mactimes> Hey there!
[06:20] <xonic1> can you help me
[06:20] <sasank> i'm having problems setting up gmail with thunderbird
[06:20] <Qwexer> someone explain cp to me real quick
[06:20] <gogeta> xonic1 scan for bad secotrs
[06:20] <gogeta> xonic1 if thers none thers no damage
[06:20] <b1n42y> tag-, that is weird
[06:20] <sasank> how do I open up port 993?
[06:20] <epax> Greyfox: Do you mean that Firefox gets slow?
[06:21] <b1n42y> tag-, i got 2x screens so my virtual is set to 8...working well....sorry coudlnt help
[06:21] <epax> sasank: Do you use firestarter?
[06:21] <gogeta> xonic1 or if thers only a cuple most hds are made to still work fine with a few baddys
[06:21] <Greyfox> epax: Just that the bar that goes across the top of the browser where the page title sits, it sort of loses it's graphics and goes flush with the other color.
[06:21] <mactimes> sasank: I have gmail+thunderbird here.  What is the problem you're facing?
[06:21] <sjovan> bloony: can you pm?
[06:21] <sasank> epax: no...
[06:21] <xonic1> i got a new laptop around 20 days back so there shudnt be any damange but i justm wanna see loading-unloading count. do u know where does it get printed in output of command " smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda"
[06:21] <bloony> sjovan: jupp
[06:21] <b1n42y> tag-, keep trying someone would have had your problem
[06:22] <b1n42y> tag-, have u restarted X
[06:22] <sasank> mactimes: nothing happens... thunderbird doesn't ask me for a password atleast
[06:22] <sasank> epax: mactimes : my ports 993 and 587 are closed. is that the problem?
[06:22] <gogeta> xonic1 logs?
[06:22] <gogeta> xonic1 right on the term
[06:22]  * MacDrunk_ is back (gone 45:38:49)
[06:23] <mactimes> sasank: I guess not.
[06:23] <tag-> b1n42y: no
[06:23] <sasank> only 22, 25, 631 are open
[06:23] <mactimes> sasank: Let me open thunderbird here and see what I have exactly
[06:23] <xonic1> (11:23:17 PM) sasank: only 22, 25, 631 are o
[06:23] <xonic1>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
[06:23] <xonic1>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       78
[06:23] <xonic1> 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       16
[06:23] <xonic1> 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       16
[06:23] <xonic1> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       40 (Lifetime Min/Max 22/49)
[06:23] <xonic1> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       340
[06:23] <xonic1> 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       460390400
[06:23] <xonic1> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
[06:23] <xonic1> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
[06:23] <xonic1> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
[06:23] <epax> sasank:  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 993 -j ACCEPT
[06:23] <xonic1> 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       30230
[06:23] <b1n42y> tag-, also theres another channel specifically for your problem ...try restart x ctr +alt backpsace if not idle in #compiz-fusion
[06:23] <xonic1> 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate    0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
[06:23] <Qwexer> no one can give a quick def on cp command in the terminal to me?
[06:23] <xonic1> 203 Run_Out_Cancel          0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2628526997038
[06:23] <astro76> !ops | xonic1
[06:23] <gogeta> stop dam
[06:23] <xonic1> 225 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3434
[06:24] <ubotu> xonic1: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[06:24] <xonic1> 240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
[06:24] <gogeta> !past
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <gogeta> !paste
[06:24] <murlidhar> sjovan: it is working now . thanks. but i was wondering if it was not in my repos then how come was it autocompleting the qbitt[tab]
[06:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <epax> !paste | xonic1
[06:24] <ubotu> xonic1: please see above
[06:24] <dxdt> dn4: you will need the nvidia legacy drivers for a card of that age
[06:24] <murlidhar> !enter | xonic1
[06:24] <ubotu> xonic1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:24] <mactimes> sasank: Server name: pop.gmail.com Port: 995 Use secure connection: SSL
[06:24] <dn4> dxdt, I tried the gutsy way and it did not work :(
[06:24] <sjovan>  murlidhar: i have no fucking ide :)
[06:24] <xonic1> sorry for spam..but its long output..n i donno y i dont see any entry with 193. people have mentioneed  Load_Cycle_Count  should start with 193. but in my case its 225
[06:25] <mactimes> sasank: Is that what you have in your configurations?
[06:25] <mneptok> xonic1: do NOT do that again
[06:25] <dxdt> dn4: I'm not sure what the gutsy way means, but it may have just installed the nvidia drivers and not what are called the legacy drivers.  I would try using the legacy drivers.  Install them with synaptic and then also make sure nvidia is selected as your driver choice in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:25] <b1n42y> !spam
[06:25] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[06:25] <b1n42y> theres a place where you can paste that stuff FYI
[06:26] <gogeta> xonic1 i dont see any crc errors
[06:26] <elkbirthday> xonic1, bookmark paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:26] <sasank> mactimes: i am trying to use imap. this is what i have exactly http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77662
[06:26] <gogeta> xonic1 noramly thats a good thing
[06:26] <b1n42y> tag-, back yet >
[06:26] <b1n42y> tag-, ?
[06:26] <gogeta> xonic1 no majer erors crc unreadble anmd so on
[06:27] <gogeta> xonic1 i would say its fine
[06:27] <xonic1> gogeta can u check output of this command on ur system and let me know if you see anyting startign with 193
[06:27] <kaleh> how to add the keys mentioned here : http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads  ?
[06:27] <gogeta> heh
[06:27] <gogeta> i dont see all that flod you did with 193
[06:28] <mactimes> sasank: That changes a lot ot things.  Then, yes, if you're using IMAP, there IS a problem if 993 is closed.
[06:28] <dn4> dxdt, ok I'll test this out in a bit
[06:28] <dn4> working on something atm
[06:29] <murlidhar> sasank: lucky u atleast u have an enabled imap. i still don't have :(
[06:29] <mactimes> sasank: Also, there IS a problem if you intend to send emails using that configuration too, once 587 is closed
[06:29] <sasank> mactimes: did you open up ports for pop3?
[06:29] <sjovan> if you are on the livecd system, how can you acces the installed system?
[06:29] <murlidhar> sasank: i dunno when will they give me . looks like google hates me
[06:29] <sasank> murlidhar: but am having problems using it... lol
[06:29] <mactimes> sasank: What do you mean?  In iptables?
[06:30] <sjovan> a guy got some problems with grub...
[06:30] <murlidhar> sjovan: go on
[06:30] <murlidhar> sjovan: i may be able to help
[06:31] <sasank> mactimes: just asking how it works on pop.. if you did not open up any ports for pop... then it should not be necessary for imap
[06:31] <sjovan> oh, talk with bloony
[06:31] <murlidhar> bloony: what is the problem . just explain it fully .
[06:31] <mactimes> sasank: Well, you only have to OPEN ports if you have CLOSED them.
[06:32] <sasank> ok
[06:32] <sasank> epax: how do I reverse this thing? iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 993 -j ACCEPT
[06:32] <murlidhar> bloony: join
[06:32] <mactimes> sasank: If you're behind NAT, it should not be a problem, once you access 993 and 587 tcp ports OUT
[06:32] <dxdt> reverse?
[06:32] <Qwexer> well I give up for the night, later all, sigh......
[06:32] <xonic1> i posted output of "sudo smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda" at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42795/ . Can someone please check this and let me know the number of times my hard disk head has been loaded/unloaded.
[06:32] <Epox_Ardere> can some one just tell me if the hotplug firmware.agent is install/included in 7.10
[06:33] <sasank> dxdt: i meant i did ran that command... now i want it to stop accepting
[06:33] <sasank> anyone else here having gmail imap problems?
[06:33] <psyphen> yes
[06:33] <b1n42y> tag-, how did you go ?
[06:34] <mactimes> sasank: iptables -L, then look for the rule number, do a iptables -D INPUT rule_number_here
[06:34] <tag-> b1n42y: still acting wacky
[06:34] <tag-> I'll figure it out I suppose
[06:34] <b1n42y> you joined that other channle yet ?
[06:34] <dxdt> sasank: well you could either change it to REJECT or you could drop the rule.
[06:34] <gvsa123> still can't get my webcam to work :(
[06:35] <sasank> ok
[06:35] <Epox_Ardere> can some one just tell me if the hotplug firmware.agent is install/included in 7.10
[06:35] <b0nn> hi I have been fixing a broken ubuntu all day and I have almost finished
[06:35] <b0nn> but I have two packages that *wont* come right
[06:35] <b0nn> I have pasted the out put at http://pastebin.ca/756149
[06:35] <b0nn> If I can fix at(d) then I am done
[06:35] <epax> sasank: You mean close ports?
[06:35] <mactimes> sasank: For iptables matters, I would suggest you reading the tutorial from the topic set on #iptables
[06:37] <sjovan> murlidhar: join #problem2k and maby whe can help the guy out
[06:37] <epax> sasank: And about gmail. You have to enable imap on gmail.com. Log in to your account on gmail with firefox or whatever and enable imap on your account.
[06:37] <sniff_> i was remove mysql
[06:37] <sniff_> and accidentally remove /etc/mysql
[06:37] <sniff_> dont see my.cnf
[06:37] <sniff_> after reinstall back
[06:37] <sniff_> dont see my.cnf
[06:38] <Ward1983> how can i pass on my internetconnection to a USB device?
[06:38] <Ward1983> like sharing connection in windows
[06:38] <Ward1983> sortof
[06:39] <gvsa123> how can i get rid of the clutter in /home/me? i made a separate /home partition as commonly suggested.
[06:39] <MilitantPotato> hey when is Ubuntu hungry hippo do out?
[06:40] <smmagic> Lol hungry hippo
[06:40] <gvsa123> MilitantPotato: after 6 mos?
[06:40] <smmagic> Anyway, how do I add chmod 777?
[06:40] <MilitantPotato> smmagic: http://www.thinginabag.com/images/content/ubuntu-hungry-hippo.jpg
[06:40] <sjovan> any one that goth experience with gentoo here? cause they could prob. help bloony with a problem with his ubuntu install
[06:41] <smmagic> Maybe join #gentoo?
[06:41] <sjovan> smmagic: but it's not a gentoo problem
[06:41] <sjovan> hmm
[06:41] <sjovan> anyways
[06:41] <sjovan> not a bad idee :)
[06:41] <smmagic> Anyone know how to add chmod 777?
[06:41] <needhelp> can anyone help me out with epson drivers dl?
[06:42] <b0nn> smmagic: ?
[06:42] <smmagic> add chmod 777
[06:42] <gvsa123> smmagic: isn't it chmod 0777 <file>
[06:43]  * needhelp <-----desperate
[06:43] <jak1> hello room. can anyone help me with compiz cube switching?
[06:43] <gvsa123> help with my webcam please...
[06:43] <gvsa123> jak1: like rotating it?
[06:43] <b1n42y> you should go to #compiz-fusion
[06:44] <needhelp> can somebody help me PLEASE?
[06:44] <mactimes> gvsa123: smmagic : chmod 777 foo.ext
[06:44] <jak1> gvsa123: yeah, it flips between workspaces just fine, but i saw a video where the view pulled back and you saw a whole cube, then it zoomed back in and you were at the next workspace/desktop
[06:45] <jak1> i've got the advanced desktop effects installed. is there maybe an effect i'm missing or something?
[06:45] <Ward1983> anyone?
[06:45] <riderrr> i am a new user and need some help please?
[06:45] <b1n42y> look for shortcuts for compiz
[06:45] <Ward1983> !question | riderrr
[06:45] <ubotu> riderrr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:45] <gvsa123> jak1: what about keyboard shotcuts
[06:45] <riderrr> i am trying to figure out how to make ubuntu work with dual monitors?
[06:46] <b1n42y> if you dont know them you wont be able to use the functionality
[06:46] <b1n42y> ctr +alt + arrows for instance
[06:46] <jak1> ctrl+alt+leftarrow or right arrow does move me to the next workspace in line, it just doesn't pull back and rotate a distant cube like i saw online
[06:46] <gvsa123> jak1: what about up and down arrows
[06:46] <Ward1983> riderrr, i did that a long time ago, there's a tutorial for it somewhere
[06:46] <Ward1983> at least for nvidia
[06:46] <lgc__> riderrr, man xrandr
[06:47] <b1n42y> no top or floor as fa as i know u can populate them with images ..meh
[06:47] <jak1> well i have my workspaces laid out in a line so up and down does nothing atm
[06:47] <riderrr> i found those but i have no idea how to access CLI?
[06:47] <b1n42y> not apps
[06:47] <osh_> Hi. I've been told that there's a way to send bugs "upstream" if they need to be fixed by the devel and not the ubuntu-team. Could anyone help me understand how to do that or point me to a launchpad-doc that describes how to do it?
[06:47] <osh_> The bug in question is this (among others). https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/152916
[06:47] <lgc__> riderrr, if you have Gutsy, I think the functionality is built in.
[06:48] <gvsa123> i want my webcam back in gutsy!
[06:48] <Ward1983> loool
[06:48] <riderrr> what is gutsu?
[06:48] <Ward1983> riderrr, gutsy = ubuntu 7.10
[06:48] <Ward1983> (the latest)
[06:48] <osh_> gvsa123: I want my vmware back. :-/
[06:48] <jak1> i want the cube effect i never had lol
[06:49] <gvsa123> osh_: i'm thinking of reverting to fiesty... or edgy
[06:49] <Ward1983> osh_, gvsa123 i just didnt update when i heard i could have a lot of software that i needed to compile again
[06:49] <tag-> it's almost like two things are competing for this shit+alt+left behavior
[06:49] <lgc__> riderrr, CLI is command line interface, if I'm correct.
[06:49] <b1n42y> have you looked under advanced options  compiz manager
[06:49] <riderrr> oh ... i think i found it.. apps... access...terminal?  right?
[06:49] <Flynsarmy> Is there any way to turn off the visualisations for audio files in totem?
[06:49] <lgc__> riderrr, Gutsy is the latest Ubuntu release.
[06:50] <riderrr> ty
[06:50] <lgc__> riderrr, yes.
[06:50] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, should be. rummage around in Preferences
[06:50] <gvsa123> Ward1983: osh_ maybe they should release once a year instead of the usual 6 mos.
[06:50] <osh_> gvsa123: I'm thinking about giving mandriva another go. I hear that they've cleaned up their mess. I need to reinstall everything anyway, might as well try something different. If I don't find something better, I'll come back.
[06:50] <jak1> b1n42y: yeah i looked there. i was hoping i missed something. thanks anyway :)
[06:50] <b1n42y> tag-, maybe you have selected 1 or more plugins for compiz which are using same shortcuts ?
[06:50] <mactimes> jak1: apt-get install gnome-compiz-manager; apt-get install compiz-extra  Enable your glx drivers and be happy
[06:50] <Ward1983> gvsa123, i'm not complaining since its free
[06:50] <Ward1983> :p
[06:50] <lgc__> riderrr, welcome, if that was for me.
[06:51] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, Edit->Preferences->Display tab->uncheck "Show visual effects when..."
[06:51] <riderrr> i am used to working with CLI using SSH on apache for my web hosting accounts...is it close to the same on Gutsy?
[06:51] <osh_> Ward1983: Unfortunatly I didn't hear that until it was too late. Annoyed the hell out of me.
[06:51] <gvsa123> osh_: hmmm... never really thought about shifting to another distro though
[06:51] <b1n42y> all compiz questions should really be directed to #compiz-fusion
[06:51] <riderrr> i am totally new to having a local install of linux
[06:51] <b1n42y> makes sense to me :)
[06:51] <Madpilot> riderrr, you can use the same cli commands locally, sure
[06:51] <Flynsarmy> Madpilot: Got it. Thanks. Surprised it wans't in the right click menu
[06:52] <gvsa123> Ward1983: yeah...
[06:52] <osh_> gvsa123: Mandriva was all the rave when I started using linux (1995) and they were great. Then they got really poor, but now I hear that they're back on track again.
[06:52] <lgc__> riderrr, CLI exists überall, including in Windoze.
[06:52] <jak1> mactimes: if i've installed the compiz manager via synaptic, isn't that 'xgl' stuff already installed as well?
[06:52] <Ward1983> osh_, allways research before you act :-p
[06:53] <riderrr> uberall?
[06:53] <mactimes> jak1: Have you enabled your restricted drivers?
[06:53] <Ward1983> anyone know how i can share my internet with a device networked to my desktop trough USB ?
[06:53] <osh_> Ward1983: Yeah. But ubuntu is debian and debian has always been _great_ when it comes to updates.
[06:53] <lgc__> riderrr, everywhere.
[06:53] <jak1> idts. how do i do that?
[06:53] <jgraham_> anyone know of a repository that has a version of gstreamer with all the codecs enabled? ie amr and the weird audio/video from cellphones..
[06:53] <Ward1983> osh_, ubuntu is not debian, its debian based
[06:53] <riderrr> ty lgc_
[06:53] <gvsa123> osh_: oh yeah... hmmm... problem is,i haven't even got a grasp of ubuntu, so i don't want to get into another cycle of re-learning
[06:53] <Ward1983> osh_, i don't know much about it but i read its heavily customised, changed
[06:53] <Flynsarmy> I have an issue with my system volume. 100% volume is fine, 90% is about 3/4 volume and 80% is 1/2 and 70% is real low. Anything below 70% and you can't hear anything. Anyone else having this issue?
[06:53] <osh_> Ward1983: True.
[06:54] <mactimes> jak1: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[06:54] <patbam> i'm trying to figure out if i should be concerned about https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html . my output of sudo smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42798/
[06:54] <dxdt> Flynsarmy: look at the PCM volume as well and make sure that is at a good level.  That can also affect the volume just like the master volume.
[06:54] <Pyrobyte> hello all, i am new to ubuntu and have just plugged in a usb drive (verbitam store and go 1GB if it matters) and even though it flashed for a while it did not show up either in computer or on the desktop? how would i go about getting it to mount?
[06:54] <Flynsarmy> dxdt: They're on 100%
[06:55] <needhelp> hello all, i need help to find epson dot matrix printer driver for the following models, epson LQ 2180, LQ 1060, LX 800, does anyone have a link where i can dl them? thank you so much
[06:55] <jak1> it says 'your hardware does not need any restricted drivers'
[06:55] <osh_> Still. I'm looking for how to get bugs pushed back upstream in launchpad.net. Anyone know how to do that?
[06:55] <dxdt> I got nothing then
[06:55] <mactimes> jak1: What's your display adapter?
[06:55] <gvsa123> drivers drivers drivers
[06:55] <lgc__> riderrr, the point is, terminals exists since the advent of the first time-sharing machines, that is of course, much before any windowing system.
[06:55] <Madpilot> osh_, try #launchpad
[06:56] <jak1> ok let me rephrase if i may. how can i slow down the workspace switching effect so that i can see the cube thats flipping? like in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk
[06:56] <osh_> gvsa123: Sure. I get that. I've been around linux/unix for so long that everything is pretty much the same, except for some minor details and some tools. I've been a professional unix-admin for a decade or so.
[06:56] <jak1> i realize he's using a touchscreen but is there a way i can drag the cube rotation like that with a mouse?
[06:56] <osh_> gvsa123: Not much relearning to do. ;-)
[06:56] <mactimes> lgc__: If you take in consideration that we can look at monitors as "windows" that theory is a bit wrong ^^
[06:56] <osh_> Madpilot: Thanks. Didn't know that one existed. =)
[06:57] <murlidhar> !printers | needhelp
[06:57] <ubotu> needhelp: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:57] <riderrr> ok
[06:57] <dxdt> jak1: usually you just hold ctrl+alt+click and drag with mouse
[06:57] <gvsa123> osh_: i guess i'll give it some thought :)
[06:57] <patbam> Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   043   043   000    Old_age   Always       -       346402/346256
[06:57] <tag-> holy crud, compiz seems bugggggy
[06:57] <jak1> dxdt: thank you thank you thank you!!!!
[06:57] <patbam> is that a high number for this load_cycle_count issue?
[06:58] <lgc__> mactimes, there always hops a purist around this pure channel!
[06:58] <jak1> and mactimes thank you very much for your help as well!
[06:58]  * jak1 buys everyone a round of drinks
[06:58] <jak1> sweeeeeeet
[06:58] <mactimes> jak1: You're welcome =)  Glad I could help.
[06:58] <jak1> i'm a total noob but this ubuntu/linux stuff rules
[06:59] <osh_> gvsa123: (K)Ubuntu is great though. It's just the latest release that isn't quite what I expected. I'm sure Horny Heron will be great again.
[06:59] <new_linx> hello
[06:59] <Radio1> MicroSoft is now adjar.
[06:59] <new_linx> i need help sharing files between my Ubuntu and Xp.....
[07:00] <osh_> !samba > new_linx
[07:00] <Leeds> so... apparently Stephen Fry uses Ubuntu (as well as XP, Vista, OSX, and sometimes Fedora and Yellow Dog)
[07:00] <NeoTubNinja> linux is awesome. nothing more fun than just opening up a terminal just to type
[07:00] <new_linx> i've been trying samba for a while now  >osh_
[07:01] <lgc__> new_linx, transfer on the same machine between Xp and Linux?
[07:01] <Biju> By disabling ACPI am I going to lose any features on my system other than HIbernation (like ability to use network cards, shutting down my computer etc?)
[07:01] <Leeds> and in the meantime, I'm going to ask - where is the appropriate place to put odd routing config to run at boot-time on Ubuntu?  I'm a slackware person myself, but I need to setup an Ubuntu box a few hundred miles away...
[07:02] <new_linx> two different machines lgc_
[07:02] <Flynsarmy> NeoTubNinja: lol
[07:02] <new_linx> i'm using a crossover twisted pair cable to network them
[07:02] <lgc__> new_linx, then I suppose you want Samba.
[07:03] <NeoTubNinja> what? lol
[07:04] <new_linx> i installed samba, edited the smb.conf file and i'm still not able to share files
[07:04] <kidicarus> would anyone happen to know why totem's default aspect ratio is so screwy??
[07:04] <kidicarus> as in tall & skinny
[07:05] <lgc__> new_linx, that sounds interesting... would you mind explaining the hardware part?
[07:05] <Flynsarmy> !samba > Flynsarmy
[07:05] <Ward1983> how can i share my internetconnection with a device connected to my desktop trough USB? (the connection with the PC is allready working fine)
[07:06] <Flynsarmy> new_linx: Damn i did it just a few days ago. One thing i remember is you need both samba server and client
[07:07] <b1n42y> Ward1983, maybe ports and firewall
[07:07] <Epox_Ardere__> How can i view dmesg
[07:07] <sjovan> is there any way you can get the terminal to always stay on the top?
[07:07] <Leeds> Epox_Ardere__: uh, run "dmesg"
[07:07] <sjovan> just figured it out
[07:07] <Epox_Ardere__> sorry I'm fairly new at this
[07:07] <sjovan> nwm :)
[07:08] <Ward1983> b1n42y, i tried trough a line with iptables, but apperantly that didnt do the trick
[07:08] <NeoTubNinja> make your terminal "white on black"
[07:08] <b1n42y> sjovan, right clickon terminal window name
[07:08] <sjovan> i found out of it
[07:08] <NeoTubNinja> thats what the cool kids are doing
[07:08] <b1n42y> Ward1983, /
[07:08] <lgc__> Epox_Ardere__, if you want to view page-by-page, type dmesg | more .
[07:08] <LinuxNIT> hey guys, i just instaled 7.10 on my desktop and upgraded to it on my laptop... now if it shuts the display off due to inactivity it wont turn it back on, i have to reset the computer, how can i fix this?
[07:08] <sjovan> but thanx bln42y
[07:09] <b1n42y> np
[07:09] <Ward1983> b1n42y, / ? :s
[07:09] <b1n42y> Ward1983, sorry mate thats as far as i can go with that 1
[07:10] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT: ATI grafics card?
[07:10] <jak1> hey anybody, whats the diff between terminal and konsole
[07:10] <LinuxNIT> ATI on the laptop (which also lost xgl support) but the desktop is nvidia
[07:10] <jak1> ?
[07:10] <Ward1983> b1n42y, no problem thanx for trying$
[07:10] <b1n42y> trying to take workload off more experienced users
[07:10] <MilitantPotato> Suspend is broken on Gutsy for ATI if you use restricted drivers
[07:11] <b1n42y> MilitantPotato, LinuxNIT thats what i was going to say..but wasnt sure
[07:11] <LinuxNIT> MilitantPotato, this is just shutting off the display, the computer is not suspending
[07:11] <Flynsarmy> What's the difference between the NVidia restricted driver and the ones that appear in add/remove programs?
[07:11] <b1n42y> i have to hold power button on my tablet pc......
[07:12] <LinuxNIT> MilitantPotato, plus it does the same thing on my desktop with nvidia
[07:12] <Ademan> anyone know how to view images in a strictly command line environment? (my friend is sshed into a machine with X and needs to view an image which is on the server)
[07:13] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT:  try
[07:13] <MilitantPotato> sudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:13] <Flynsarmy> Is that mode stuff large numbers of people getting banned?
[07:13] <Cyber_Stalker> SYSTEMINFO - designed for XChat - by scoobs - version 1.3
[07:14] <MilitantPotato> then set these three things LinuxNIT   SAVE_VBE_STATE=false POST_VIDEO=false USE_DPMS=false
[07:14] <Leeds> anyone?  where to put manual routing setup for boot time?
[07:14] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, a bunch of ban removals, actually
[07:15] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, really old bans - like two months old, and the sort that won't work anymore anyway, probably.
[07:15] <Ward1983> how can i share my internetconnection with a device connected to my desktop trough USB? (the connection with the PC is allready working fine)
[07:15] <MilitantPotato> +B *.ipt.aol.com :)
[07:16] <NeoTubNinja> what irc client do you guys use? sadly im newer to irc than linux
[07:16] <MilitantPotato> i'm using pidgin
[07:16] <b1n42y> lol u trying to ban j/k madpilot ?
[07:16] <LinuxNIT> MilitantPotato, ok
[07:16] <MilitantPotato> ?
[07:16] <Flynsarmy> NeoTubNinja: Chatzilla in firefox
[07:16] <Madpilot> NeoTubNinja, XChat. Not xchat-gnome, but the real thing.
[07:17] <b1n42y> nevermind
[07:17] <b1n42y> \whois
[07:17] <MilitantPotato> sorry, It's too later here to think :(
[07:17] <Ward1983> NeoTubNinja, also XChat here
[07:17] <Madpilot> b1n42y, huh?
[07:17] <b1n42y> all good
[07:17] <utnubu_12345> 8-)
[07:18] <NeoTubNinja> i have the gnome version. also installed chatzilla a long time ago but never used
 +B *.ipt.aol.com :) thought he was trying as in a joke to ban you madpilot
[07:18] <qwerty121> hi! if I install k-lite codecs with wine, do i have to install the restricted format codecs too from the repos?
[07:18] <MilitantPotato> I'd hope mad isn't using AOL
[07:18] <Madpilot> b1n42y, wouldn't work. I'm largely unbannable. :)
[07:18] <b1n42y> i know
[07:18] <LinuxNIT> anyway to get xgl support back on my ati radeon 9000?
[07:18] <b1n42y> but at least you get what I was trying to say......
[07:19]  * Leeds waves
[07:19] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT chances are XGL is running
[07:20] <MilitantPotato> If not, you can install it from synaptic
[07:20] <MilitantPotato> it loads automatically in gutsy
[07:20] <LinuxNIT> when i start compiz it says no xgl support
[07:20] <LinuxNIT> and compiz fails
[07:20] <LinuxNIT> was working fine before the upgrade
[07:20] <MilitantPotato> is XGL running?
[07:21] <bbyman> try to uninstall the packages and then re-install them
[07:21] <qwerty121> hi! if I install k-lite codecs with wine, do i have to install the restricted format codecs too from the repos?
[07:21] <ripper> hi all
[07:21] <Ste-Foy> Can I talking aboth linux here ?
[07:21] <LinuxNIT> MilitantPotato, how do icheck?
[07:21] <MilitantPotato> Sys>admin>system monitor
[07:21] <ripper> could anyone suggest me a journal software for ubuntu 7.10 that's similar to the journal component in microsoft outlook?
[07:22] <MilitantPotato> look for XGL running
[07:22] <MilitantPotato> there's an easier way but I forget the terminal command.
[07:22] <bbyman> linuxNIT, uninstall your  compiz-config-settings manager then reinstall it
[07:22] <b1n42y> Ste-Foy, ask your question and hope someone has the answer
[07:23] <Ste-Foy> I'm already asked my question b1n42y
[07:23] <b1n42y> sigh
[07:23] <bbyman> LinuxNIT, open a terminal and type "glxgears", can you see the gears running? If not, your video card needs 3d enabled
[07:23] <LinuxNIT> MilitantPotato, i dont see it
[07:23] <LinuxNIT> bbyman, yes the gears run
[07:24] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT is restricted drivers enabled for your laptop?
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> it dosent register one for the video
[07:24] <MilitantPotato> there's no checkbox for it?
[07:24] <LinuxNIT> but it is using the radeon driver in xorg.con
[07:24] <MilitantPotato> ah
[07:25] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT try this
[07:25] <LinuxNIT> nope no check box
[07:25] <b1n42y> thats his problem
[07:25] <MilitantPotato> yea.
[07:25] <b1n42y> wd mP
[07:25] <MilitantPotato> ?
[07:25] <b1n42y> well done
[07:25] <MilitantPotato> ty :)
[07:25] <LinuxNIT> how is that the problem? it was working fine before the upgrade
[07:25] <ripper> no alternatives in ubuntu for microsoft outlook's journal? i had been searching around but couldn't find anything
[07:26] <ripper> hope someone could suggest me something
[07:26] <Leeds> third and last time I'll ask: I need to setup some custom routing at boot time - where should I put the route commands?
[07:26] <b1n42y> try it and u shall see
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> try what? what do you want me to change?
[07:26] <MilitantPotato> bbyman: any idea how to fix it?
[07:26] <bbyman> check if xgl is running first
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> already did
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> modprobe xgl ?
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> nah
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> i dont see it in the system monitor
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> that's modules
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> X(
[07:27] <jscinoz> hey guys
[07:27] <Ward1983> how can i share my internetconnection with a device connected to my desktop trough USB? (the connection with the PC is allready working fine)
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> Ward1983: join #networking
[07:27] <MilitantPotato> they might be able to help ya more
[07:27] <Ward1983> MilitantPotato, thanx for the tip
[07:27] <jscinoz> is there any way to stop my nvidia card from automatically changing clock speeds, (i.e. 2d and 3d presets), its doing this randomly and messes up compiz + games when it switches to the slower speed
[07:28] <MilitantPotato> jscinoz: nvidia-glx-settings ?
[07:29] <jscinoz> MiliantPotato, cant find anything in nvidia-settings that does what i want
[07:29] <MilitantPotato> LinuxNIT in terminal type compiz --replace
[07:30] <MilitantPotato> then pastebin the output
[07:30] <LinuxNIT> are you sure xgl will show up in the system monitor MilitantPotato i dont even see it on my desktop which is running compiz at the moment (and yes i checked show all processes)
[07:30] <MilitantPotato> !pastebin
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <MilitantPotato> jscinoz: no idea then, that was my only idea
[07:30] <jscinoz> >_<
[07:30] <vega-> i just installed the linux-source package on gutsy, but there's a slight problem: the debian/ directory is EMTPY
[07:31] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42801/
[07:32] <MilitantPotato> ok cool
[07:32] <MilitantPotato> give me two mins to put together a command
[07:32] <jhee> did anybody have problems with the new distribution prior to the release date when trying to install it?
[07:36] <burwaco> hello everyone !
[07:36] <gandalfcome> in gutsy install you can specify a driver cd. How does that work. Can I put the newest ati drivers on there?
[07:36] <MilitantPotato> sudo apt-get remove compiz compiz-config-settings-manager xserver-xgl && apt-get install compiz compiz-config-settings-manager xserver-xgl
[07:37] <MilitantPotato> linuxnit do that on your laptop
[07:37] <doktoreas> anyone uses imap from gmail with evolution?
[07:37] <burwaco> anyone ready for hearing my troubles with upgrade from feisty and ati drivers ?
[07:38] <tag-> what's the difference between "GL Desktop" and "Advanced Desktop Settings Manager"
[07:38] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: not me :D
[07:38] <tag-> I seem to have two things competing for the keys cltr+alt+left
[07:38] <burwaco> hehe
[07:39] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, same story ?
[07:39] <cast> nice, my printer works :) once again impressed.
[07:39] <MilitantPotato> tag- no idea what GL desktop is
[07:39] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:39] <LinuxNIT-II> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:39] <LinuxNIT-II> david@david-laptop:~$
[07:39] <LinuxNIT-II> yes i used sudo and no synaptic is not running
[07:39] <MilitantPotato> Linux close synaptic first :)
[07:39] <LinuxNIT-II> ;)
[07:39] <MilitantPotato> oh
[07:40] <MilitantPotato> any other update stuff running?
[07:40] <MilitantPotato> restricted drivers ?
[07:40] <LinuxNIT-II> no
[07:40] <tag-> hurm
[07:40] <tag-> MilitantPotato: it seems to be a nicer, more apple-like interface to the same stuff
[07:40] <gandalfcome> does anyone know what the installation option with driver cd in gutsy is for. or where I can get information on that? thanks in advance
[07:41] <LinuxNIT-II> update-notifier is in the bg but thats it
[07:41] <Varka> MilitantPotato: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock* && sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <tag-> MilitantPotato: but when I hit ctrl+alt+left, I move two workspaces (but my virtual cube thingy only rotates once)
[07:41]  * Leeds wonders if he's being ignored by accident or on purpose
[07:41] <burningice> Guten morgen :)
[07:41] <tag-> MilitantPotato: and it doesn't always do it.  Sometimes it moves one, sometimes it moves two, and it doesn't always move back...it seems completely wacky
[07:41] <NeoTubNinja> guten nacht lol
[07:42] <burningice> oder gute nacht ;)
[07:42] <NeoTubNinja> what is the command for changing root password again
[07:42] <MilitantPotato> tag-  compiz-config-settings manager is the thing ya want :)
[07:42] <DarkJedi375> I have a question about setting up my 7.10 server and was wondering where the best place to get help is
[07:42] <MilitantPotato> Advanced Desktop just opens that.
[07:42] <Varka> LinuxNIT-II: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock* && sudo apt-get update
[07:42] <LinuxNIT-II> ha nm MilitantPotato i copied and pasted the command and you left out sudo
[07:42] <LinuxNIT-II> sorry
[07:42] <MilitantPotato> :D
[07:42] <LinuxNIT-II> second half of command :)
[07:42] <tag-> MilitantPotato: right, but like I said, it's not really working quite right.
[07:42] <Ward1983> NeoTubNinja, i think passwd ?
[07:42] <Ward1983> but not sure
[07:43] <NeoTubNinja> hmmm
[07:43] <MilitantPotato> tag, uninstall the other compiz config managers
[07:43] <NeoTubNinja> sounds right. we shall see in a sec
[07:43] <warbler> sudo passwd
[07:43] <tag-> MilitantPotato: I think it's gnome-compiz-manager... :-)
[07:44] <MilitantPotato> compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:44] <sjovan> how do you install fonts in crossover?
[07:44] <arooni-mobile> is there a linux command to get the IP of a given URL?
[07:44] <MilitantPotato> tag- gnome is a simpler version.
[07:44] <bbyman> sudo su password
[07:44] <tag-> MilitantPotato: that's the GL Desktop one, I mean
[07:44] <tag-> the pretty one.
[07:44] <tag-> MilitantPotato: right
[07:44] <MilitantPotato> compizconfig-settings-manager is better :)
[07:44] <NeoTubNinja> sudo passwd
[07:44] <NeoTubNinja> worked
[07:44] <NeoTubNinja> thanks
[07:44] <Ward1983> np
[07:44] <tag-> I've removed it, let me kill X and see if it starts back up and become sane
[07:45] <MilitantPotato> tag, removed the gnome one?
[07:45] <burwaco> Last night I upgraded from feisty to gutsy using the package manager, when I rebooted the ati driver didn't work, so I uninstalled envy, installed the envy version for gutsy and installed the driver, no luck, so I uninstalled the driver,  xserver-xgl, and the restrictedmanager and installed the driver manually from ati and used xorg.conf from a previous installation, now the driver works fine in "gnome failsafe" but not in a regu
[07:45] <burwaco> lar gnome session, there the screen turns black after login and I can't even crt+alt+backsp to restart x...
[07:45] <tag-> nope
[07:45] <tag-> it's still not sane
[07:45] <malianx> is there an easy way to disable powernowd or force it to a specific freq step?
[07:45] <tag-> MilitantPotato: yes, removed the gnome one
[07:45] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: envy probably broke it.
[07:46] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: evny is a horrible program, you probably won't get much help fixing what it broke.
[07:46] <warbler> !envy
[07:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:46] <MilitantPotato> warbler: ty
[07:46] <warbler> k
[07:47] <penba> How could I go about executing a script right after gdm/kdm is loaded?
[07:47] <LinuxNIT-II> compiz --replace now says that xgl is not present but compiz still dosent start
[07:47] <penba> (automatically, that is)
[07:47] <LinuxNIT-II> sorry it says that it IS present
[07:47] <tag-> MilitantPotato: I'm on workspace one.  If I hit ctrl+alt+right, I go to workspace 3.  If I hit it again, I go to workspace one again.  The cube only turns 1/4th a turn
[07:47] <tag-> MilitantPotato: what the heck is going on :-(
[07:48] <warbler> penba: add it to sessions - app - pref - sessions - startup
[07:48] <penba> warbler: I dont use gnome
[07:48] <gandalfcome> gandalf
[07:48] <yogesh> cxvb
[07:48] <jscinoz> is there any way to stop my nvidia card from automatically changing clock speeds, (i.e. 2d and 3d presets), its doing this randomly and messes up compiz + games when it switches to the slower speed
[07:48] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, I now came to the point where everything runs fine in "gnome failsafe" (3d rendering: yes, ati driver, etc...) so the problem is in one of the gnome startup scripts, and I don't know wich those are...
[07:48] <penba> warbler: do you know what config file that program affects?
[07:48] <warbler> penba: what do you use?
[07:49] <penba> warbler: fvwm
[07:49] <warbler> ????
[07:49] <penba> warbler: or KDE if you prefer
[07:49] <MilitantPotato> tag try changing the actions for rotate cube
[07:49] <tag-> MilitantPotato: if I do it while dragging a window (ctrl+alt+shift+left) I can move two workspaces from one before coming back to it.  It goes from one, to four (which is right), then from four to two, then from two back to one.  And if I keep doing it, it will stop coming back to one and just toggle between four and two.
[07:50] <tag-> MilitantPotato: that works fine
[07:50] <MilitantPotato> wild
[07:50] <MilitantPotato> tag join #compiz-fusion
[07:50] <tag-> MilitantPotato: and ctrl+alt+left no longer changes workspaces
[07:50] <MilitantPotato> i've no idea what's going on there.
[07:50] <warbler> penba: there should be at the login a kde session so in the menu there will be an option to add to it
[07:50] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, compiz --replace now says that xgl is present but compiz still dosent start
[07:51] <kraut> moin
[07:51] <Ward1983> how can i share my internetconnection with a device connected to my desktop trough USB? (the connection with the PC is allready working fine)
[07:51] <corporeal> test
[07:51] <MilitantPotato> linux pastebin what it says
[07:51] <A[D]minS> !webcam
[07:51] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:52] <penba> warbler: what you said about sessions - apps - prefs - sessions - startup is just not there
[07:52] <yue> 32e3
[07:52] <yue> hello
[07:53] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42802/
[07:53] <Aridhol> how can I set the default application when double clicking on a file in archive manager, it's set to firefox but I want it set to klibido
[07:54] <warbler> penba: sorry - in gnome it is in the main menu - applications - sytem(which I left out) - preferences - asessions - startup
[07:54] <warbler> *seesions
[07:54] <warbler> *sessions
[07:54] <MilitantPotato> linux
[07:54] <penba> warbler: thatf for gnome, though. I want it for GDM
[07:54] <MilitantPotato> sudo apt-get check
[07:54] <burwaco> brb, going to restart session without the restricted driver manager, maybe it screws things up...
[07:54] <warbler> penba: GDM=gnome
[07:55] <warbler> penba: KDM=kde
[07:55] <penba> warbler: no, gdm = gdm.. gnome = gnome. I can run gnome with kdm and kde with gdm for all I care
[07:55] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, no errors
[07:55] <MilitantPotato> Linux open synaptic
[07:56] <MilitantPotato> search for compiz
[07:56] <MilitantPotato> I'll send you a picture real quick
[07:56] <warbler> penba: that is the method in feisty to add to startup - are you gutsy?
[07:57] <penba> warbler: It doesnt matter. It'll add to gnome's startup either way. I need something similar to adding to /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:57] <penba> warbler: byt adding to gnome's I mean it won't add to gdm's
[07:57] <fargiolas> hi, after the gutsy update when i try to access to the vfat partition it takes some time (5 seconds?) to show up files or even to do a "df".. is it a known problem? maybe some fstab option?
[07:58] <Rhoruns> hey, does anyone here know a lot about SMTP/SMTP Servers?
[07:58] <MilitantPotato> linux
[07:58] <MilitantPotato> http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/6/10/31/f_Screenshotm_ede345d.png
[07:58] <MilitantPotato> make sure all that stuff I have installed is installed (aside from emerald)
[07:58] <warbler> penba: try adding in /etc/rc5.d
[07:58] <fargiolas> during this disk activity increase a lot
[07:59] <warbler> penba: did you edit your main menu and remove sessions?
[08:00] <jscinoz> is there any way to stop my nvidia card from automatically changing clock speeds, (i.e. 2d and 3d presets), its doing this randomly and messes up compiz + games when it switches to the slower speed
[08:00] <MilitantPotato> i thought init.d was the scripts?
[08:01] <warbler> MilitantPotato: yhe rc's are the runlevels
[08:01] <LinuxNIT-II> MilitantPotato, well i removed two that you didnt have that i did (maybe leftover from when i had it with fiesty) and now compiz runs but its looks like crap. Its really jumpy
[08:01] <MilitantPotato> Linux you'll probably need to get newer drivers.
[08:01] <MilitantPotato> !ati
[08:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:02] <MilitantPotato> follow that, hopefully it works.
[08:02] <LinuxNIT-II> it ran fine under fiesty
[08:02] <Flynsarmy> Are those binary drivers any better than the restricted drivers?
[08:02] <MilitantPotato> it's probably using different drivers?
[08:02] <LinuxNIT-II> no
[08:02] <inversekinetix> can someone please help me,  i just plugged in a usb2.0 HD and it accessed it, i then chose 'unmount' and plugged in another usb2.0 drive, it wont mount any usb drives now, help! i need the files for work
[08:02] <MilitantPotato> Flynsarmy yea, sort of.
[08:02] <LinuxNIT-II> same xorg setting anyway
[08:03] <MilitantPotato> the latest on the ATI site lets you use AIGLX so you don't need XGL
[08:03] <kimmey2k3> !lotus
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lotus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <LinuxNIT-II> mine dosent use fglrx... its not new enough
[08:04] <kimmey2k3> !java
[08:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:04] <MilitantPotato> linux join #compiz-fusion   they might be able to help.
[08:04] <Flynsarmy> I'm hestitant to do anything graphics-card related. i decided to change the 'nvidia' driver in grpahics setttings to the one for my graphics card (8600GT) and it made my resolution 640x480 and refused to change back to nvidia
[08:04] <LinuxNIT-II> :-/
[08:04] <inversekinetix> anyone?>
[08:04] <MilitantPotato> nvidia is the right driver isn't it?
[08:05] <MilitantPotato> well, nvidia-glx-new
[08:05] <_dillinger> hi, my printer only prints blank pages
[08:05] <_dillinger> it also prints them into blank PDF files
[08:05] <unimatrix9> hello and good morning
[08:05] <_dillinger> this came after I upgraded to gutsy
[08:05] <_dillinger> good morning everyone
[08:05] <warbler> inversekinetix: easy way is to reboot and don't unmount - just unplug
[08:05] <unimatrix9> any one playing quake wars already?
[08:06] <unimatrix9> on linux..
[08:06] <Flynsarmy> MilitantPotato: Yea but there is one in the graphics list that was for my card in the choose driver by model section. I figured it'd be more tailored to my card
[08:06] <inversekinetix> warbler: i did reboot
[08:06] <fargiolas> no answer? the slow access happens when opening the drive from gnome or doing a df but not when doing a ls
[08:06] <Flynsarmy> MilitantPotato: Instead it just led to a world of hurt
[08:06] <fargiolas> and after the first time it happens no more
[08:06] <warbler> inversekinetix: with the usb drive connected?
[08:07] <_dillinger> I disabled apparmour, nothing changed
[08:07] <inversekinetix> warbler: with and without
[08:07] <fargiolas> it seems something related with free space information retrieving
[08:07] <Aridhol> how can I set the default application when double clicking on a file in archive manager, it's set to firefox but I want it set to klibido
[08:08] <warbler> inversekinetix: have a look in the file - /media - and see if it there then we'll remount it
[08:08] <gordonjcp> since upgrading to Gutsy, I haven't got a "theme" option in my system->preferences menu
[08:08] <inversekinetix> warbler fixed it thanks
[08:08] <warbler> inversekinetix: how?
[08:08] <gordonjcp> what would I type on the command line to change themes?
[08:09] <inversekinetix> warbler: pulled all the jumpers from the HDs.  are you sure you can just unplug things without unmounting them?
[08:09] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, well, I disabled the restricted driver manager in "sessions" and restarted gdm, and here I am, driver works...
[08:09] <DudeD> Hi, when i add a interface eth0:1 to /etc/network/interfaces and try to bring it up i get a "Cannot assign requested address" error?
[08:09] <warbler> inversekinetix: from what I've read yep
[08:10] <warbler> !hotplug
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <_dillinger> any ideas on the printer?
[08:10] <inversekinetix> warbler: cool thanks.  heres another question for you.  I want to be able to search my root dir. but it wont allow me to do a root search, how can i enable that permission>?
[08:11] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: reconfigure xorg
[08:11] <inversekinetix> warbler:  UNSAFEDRIVEREMOVAL!!!!!   please use the EJECT function.  lol, that answers it
[08:11] <warbler> inversekinetix: a root search? - does your user have admin permissions?
[08:11] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: after disabling restricted drivers from Sys>admin>Rest drv mang
[08:11] <inversekinetix> warbler I have admin permission but the file icon is a lock
[08:12] <KeineAhnung> Is anyone here a female from the UK and have a microphone? I am composing a song and could really use a voice like that
[08:12] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, at this point, why should I do that, restricted drivers are disabled, and I'm running the driver from ati.com...
[08:12] <gordonjcp> KeineAhnung: get to the back of the queue
[08:12] <warbler> inversekinetix: I have a panel applet for search that lets me look everywhere if that helps
[08:12] <KeineAhnung> gordonjcp: what?
[08:13] <inversekinetix> warbler is it easy to use?
[08:13] <gordonjcp> KeineAhnung: I'm actually considering changing the name of our band to "Female Vocalist Wanted"
[08:13] <warbler> inversekinetix: what happens when you click the locked file?
[08:13] <KeineAhnung> The voice does not need to be able to sing
[08:13] <KeineAhnung> just speak
[08:13] <unimatrix9> KeineAhnung : ask your friendly neighbour , or go to ubuntu-offtopic , there they can talk to you about these issue's
[08:13] <KeineAhnung> gordonjcp: haha
[08:13] <warbler> inversekinetix: just need the file name
[08:13] <inversekinetix> warbler i can open an browse all the files but the search wont work
[08:13] <KeineAhnung> unimatrix9: alright. i'm just trying to ask in high volume channels :P in hopes of finding one
[08:14] <unimatrix9> o
[08:14] <unimatrix9> k
[08:14] <gordonjcp> KeineAhnung: perhaps one of the linux audio channels
[08:14] <warbler> inversekinetix: what search are you using?
[08:14] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, I disabled restricted drivers in preferences > sessions, and restarted gdm, the session started and ati.com driver works...
[08:14] <gordonjcp> KeineAhnung: or use a pitch shifter, it worked for Thomas Dolby
[08:14] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: oops
[08:14] <inversekinetix> the one in the file browser
[08:14] <inversekinetix> it doesnt seem to work for anthing
[08:15] <Elephantman> hello :)
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> Flynsarmy Reconfigure xorg
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> Flynsarmymake sure you disable the restricted driver for your video card before hand.
[08:15] <warbler> inversekinetix: nautilus file search? - one min I'll try it for the first time
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> warbler: it'
[08:15] <MilitantPotato> s junk
[08:16] <kimmey2k3> !java
[08:16] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:16] <inversekinetix> warbler it doesnt work
[08:16] <kimmey2k3> how may i make ubuntu download packages and not require cd each time?
[08:16] <burwaco> I have another problem, buring boot ervery time the firestarted firewall fails to start, can't find eth1, how can I solve that?
[08:17] <burwaco> kimmey2k3, remove the cd from your sources.list
[08:17] <kimmey2k3> wasnt it possible to do the via gui too?
[08:17] <warbler> inversekinetix: doesn't do anything for me either... - what a pain - right click the panel and a search icon then
[08:17] <burwaco> yes
[08:17] <burwaco> kimmey2k3, yes
[08:18] <warbler> *add
[08:18] <kimmey2k3> can you tell me how? if you know please
[08:18] <burwaco> kimmey2k3, probably administration > software sources ?
[08:18] <inversekinetix> warbler:  thanks, i didnt know you could do that and theres a bunch of other things i want to add from it  :)
[08:19] <TAsn-ghost> hey there, how can I get the new open source ati drivers for gusty?
[08:19] <warbler> inversekinetix: I save space and put them in a drawer
[08:19] <burwaco> TAsn-ghost, don't ask me, I screw everything up...
[08:19] <kimmey2k3> ah. thank you
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> burwaco, that's exaclly what I'm afraid to do =)
[08:20] <inversekinetix> warbler:  i will too
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> what did you try to do?
[08:20] <warbler> inversekinetix: add a drawer then right click the drawer
[08:20] <burwaco> TAsn-ghost, I used the driver from ati.com...
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> and what have you screwed?
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> and?
[08:20] <zetheroo> what exactly is a Load Cycle in relation to a Hard Drive?
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> everything died on you?
[08:20] <TAsn-ghost> =)
[08:20] <burwaco> TAsn-ghost, It works now, but I'm workingon it scince last night...
[08:20] <burwaco> TAsn-ghost, no no..
[08:21] <TAsn> then?
[08:21] <TAsn> I meant I have installed new drivers from ati.com in the past
[08:21] <TAsn> should it be any more difficult than that?
[08:21] <burwaco> TAsn,  brb
[08:21] <TAsn> or should I excpect anything unexcpected?
[08:21] <MilitantPotato> TAsn: yes, it uses composite and AIGLX now.
[08:21] <inversekinetix> wicked
[08:22] <inversekinetix> thanks warbler.  i gotta go find another usb cable now
[08:22] <TAsn> MilitantPotato, I know, I meant should the installtion be any diffrent?
[08:22] <warbler> k
[08:22] <TAsn> I don't think I even need to change the existing (restricted drivers modules) xorg.conf
[08:22] <TAsn> or am I wrong?
[08:22] <MilitantPotato> TAsn: but not MUCH harder, just disable restricted, uninstall XGL, compile, install, update kernel, edit xorg for the stuff it needs, and enable restricted
[08:23] <TAsn> MilitantPotato, I should re enable restricted afterwards?
[08:23] <TAsn> why is that?
[08:23] <preview> kkk
[08:23] <MilitantPotato> TAsn: after you've installed them, yes
[08:23] <MilitantPotato> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348
[08:23] <TAsn> btw, does restricted auto-updates the drivers?
[08:23] <MilitantPotato> no.
[08:23] <MilitantPotato> the drivers in the repo are rarely if every updated
[08:24] <TAsn> MilitantPotato, ok, I hope that post sums it all
[08:24] <TAsn> gotta pick up my brother, cya for now...
[08:24] <MilitantPotato> TAsn: mostly.
[08:28] <kale> anyone here set up a sms server?
[08:31] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, that post is the opposite of what I did...
[08:31] <jscinoz> Is it possible to have grub boot an OS off a raw disk image stored on an ext3 partition?
[08:31] <GreyGhost> any suggestions on good bit torrent client for ubuntu ?
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: ok :)
[08:31] <GreyGhost> needa get 7.10 ;)
[08:31] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: has worked for myself and two others with little hassle
[08:31] <murlidhar> GreyGhost: deluge
[08:32] <dgjones> !torrent | GreyGhost
[08:32] <ubotu> GreyGhost: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:32] <GreyGhost> murlidhar ,dgjones thanks will check them ...
[08:32] <murlidhar> GreyGhost: rtorrent works in terminal and deluge is a GUI client . both are good
[08:32] <GreyGhost> i used azuerus once on windows ... but long time ago ...
[08:33] <GreyGhost> ok thanks
[08:33] <macogw> deluge is nice
[08:33] <DarkJedi375> i love deluge
[08:33] <murlidhar> me too
[08:33] <malianx> I like az because of the option to only get certain files in a torrent, I don't know of a better one with the same feature :(
[08:33] <macogw> pretty sure azureus is currently broken
[08:33] <acuster> is cannonical going to have an 'official' response to the /. hard drive article?
[08:33] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: when you do fglrxinfo what do you get?
[08:33] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, ok, but in the first paragraph, they tell to remove fglrx from modules blacklist, and in the second you have to blacklist fglrx...
[08:33] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, tha ati driver...
[08:34] <cimot_niez_bdg> hi
[08:34] <macogw> burwaco: i think he meant output from running that in the terminal
[08:34] <malianx> macogw: I couldn't get the one in apt to work, but the one from sf works with the sun jre that's in apt
[08:34] <macogw> oo yeah thats true
[08:34] <burwaco> macogw, the output says it's using the ati driver :)
[08:35] <macogw> i was referring to the one that's packaged and in here, but i guess i shouldve specified
[08:35] <macogw> burwaco: oh
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: that first paragraph is if you need to remove the new ATI drivers.
[08:35] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: does it say OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.0.6958 Release) ?
[08:35] <kimmey2k3> !java
[08:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:35] <slapfaceware> if a file is like ?---------  ? ?    ?       ?            ? /etc/rc2.d/S20assp, how can i remove it?
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> !multiverse
[08:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:36] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:36] <burwaco> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:36] <burwaco> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series
[08:36] <burwaco> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release
[08:36] <MilitantPotato> cool :)
[08:37] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, but I have to disable restricted driver manager in sessions, otherwise system won't start... can't even restart X otherwise...
[08:37] <MilitantPotato> sudo apt-get clean    gets you loads of free space back :D
[08:37] <dgjones> acuster, this is a bit of a response to / . article http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/ubuntu-is-not-causing-aggressive-power-management/
[08:37] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: probably because it's trying to load the old drivers
[08:38] <VagaStorm> I'm runing the installer, and selected xfs( I whant to test it since it has the ability to expand the filesystem) and the installer said I should use lilo, but I never got a chise to use lilo.... at lest not before the instalation process started..
[08:38] <xipietotec> dgjones, the article was immediately clarified in the comments on /. that it's not ubuntu's fault
[08:38] <inversekinetix> my system is telling me there is a wine update available, when i try to update it wont do anything, any ideas?
[08:38] <acuster> dgjones, there are tons of responses, some quite good. I merely wonder if there will be some 'official' reaction so I know how to alter my hacks eventually
[08:39] <A[D]minS> !sources.list
[08:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:39] <A[D]minS> !EasySource
[08:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:39] <dgjones> xipietotec, i've not seen the updated / . article, but i knew that link was talked about in -uk last night
[08:39] <A[D]minS> thx
[08:39] <MilitantPotato> acuster: I believe the official responce is Ubuntu Devs don't want to override the manufactures settings, since they know their hardware better.
[08:39] <xipietotec> dgjones, the editors of /. are being lazy, but in the comments everyone's well aware its ACPI that's doing it and not Ubuntu
[08:40] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, I just found nothing in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common , maybe that's the problem?
[08:40] <thanius> Does anyone know why Xorg gets high load (30-40%) during idle?
[08:40] <dgjones> xipietotec, doesn't surprise me, i've not had a problem thankfully
[08:40] <MilitantPotato> thanius: are you using the new ATI drivers?
[08:40] <thanius> Nopes, nvidia
[08:40] <MilitantPotato> no idea then.
[08:41] <thanius> I tried to install the 386-kernel because I read somewhere that it might have been a SMP-bug in the 686-kernel, but I still get high loads
[08:41] <xipietotec> dgjones, yeah, its a device specific problem, so it depends on what the manufacturer set up in ACPI
[08:41] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, I'm going to blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common, reenable restricted manager and restart gdm, brb, whish ma luck...
[08:41] <psilocyde> Can I get some help dual booting with xp all ready installed?
[08:41] <Flynsarmy> I get random between 5 and 30% while idling on both CPU's. i have no idea why
[08:41] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: gl
[08:41] <thanius> Flannel, some problem here
[08:42] <Goatz> in launchpad how do you mark something as solved or someone higher has to do it?
[08:42] <inversekinetix> Flynsarmy is it something to do with indexing service?
[08:42] <thanius> I first had problems with cpufreq, but now I realized it's xorg that's hogging cpu
[08:42] <Flynsarmy> inversekinetix: I don't know. Could be. New to linux. Don't know how anything works
[08:42] <thanius> Flynsarmy, rather
[08:42] <burwaco> brb
[08:42] <inversekinetix> Flynsarmy me too
[08:42] <cimot_niez_bdg> ?
[08:43] <cimot_niez_bdg> join me
[08:43] <thanius> I never had high load during Feisty, this is Gutsy-related
[08:43] <xipietotec> how do you get firefox to render an html document that's been compressed into .tgz?
[08:43] <Flynsarmy> Nothing is using any CPU in system monitor other than system monitor and firefox. both of which are only takin gup about 2-4%. Doesn't anywhere near make up for the usage specified on the resources tab
[08:44] <inversekinetix> weird
[08:44] <thanius> Flynsarmy, What CPU are you using?
[08:45] <X-Sleepy-X> .
[08:45] <Flynsarmy> thanius: Core 2 Duo T7100
[08:45] <thanius> Flynsarmy, I've got a core 2 also, the amd-one
[08:46] <Flynsarmy> thanius: Oh mines an Intel
[08:47] <thanius> Flynsarmy, yeah, you mentioned that
[08:47] <thanius> Flynsarmy, you're using gutsy?
[08:47] <thanius> I started having these problems when I upgraded
[08:47] <Flynsarmy> thanius: Yes, gutsy
[08:48] <macogw> flynsarmy: AMD doesnt make a Core 2
[08:48] <MilitantPotato> is this correct? sudo hdparm -m16-M254 /dev/hda
[08:48] <macogw> flynsarmy: they have a few dual core processors, but Core 2 Solo and Core 2 Duo are the names of intel processors
[08:48] <Flynsarmy> macogw: I said i have an intel. Thanius said he had an AMD
[08:48] <macogw> flynsarmy: ......damn i cant read
[08:48] <macogw> thanius: go read what i just said to him
[08:49] <ginutza> buna
[08:50] <macogw> flynsarmy: run "top" in the command line.  is trackerd in there using a lot of CPU?
[08:50] <thanius> macogw, Core Duo is the product name of Intel's dualcored CPUs. AMD has a dual core called x2
[08:51] <Flynsarmy> macogw: No. XOrg is using between 4-10%. Gnome system monitor is using around 5-10, Firefox 2-6
[08:52] <macogw> thanius: right, so it wouldnt be Core 2.  it'd be Turion64 X2 or Athlon64 X2
[08:52] <macogw> flynsarmy: ok.  sometimes top shows things different than system monitor does, and ive noticed trackerd can use a LOT of cpu even though it's niced to 19 (which is weird)
[08:53] <Flynsarmy> macogw: Still the usage on resources tab seems to be higher than what's displaying in top. Maybe it's just laggage
[08:53] <Agent_bob> i have a bit of a complex question, if i have ubuntu installed without a partition and have one hd that has a partition but it's not the first hd (i.e. not the boot disk) can grub be installed so that it will start from the mbr and then read it's files from the disk with a partition and then boot another disk that has no partition ?
[08:53] <Agent_bob> can that be done ?
[08:53] <thanius> Anyways, why is Xorg hogging cpu now again?
[08:53] <macogw> flynsarmy: top only shows the top things, and it can show just your user's stuff or everything.  system monitor doesnt show root processes by default, either, i dont think
[08:53] <macogw> thanius: desktop effects can do that...
[08:54] <macogw> thanius: well, desktop effects with yucky drivers...or even just the yucky drivers
[08:54] <thanius> macogw, but it didn't in feisty?
[08:54] <moonie> could anyone help with a sound issue? I cant play any video or music atm....I apologise for my noobness
[08:54] <macogw> thanius: different driver versions
[08:54] <moonie> totem and mplayer crash on launching anything
[08:54] <Enselic> What would I pipe output to if I wanted to replace newlines with spaces?
[08:55] <Agent_bob> Enselic sed
[08:55] <thanius> macogw, can I downgrade then?
[08:55] <moonie> and rythembox it seems :(
[08:55] <Agent_bob> Enselic or tr
[08:56] <macogw> thanius: depends on the driver, i think.  if it's ati's binary, not sure how that gets installed outside the distro.  if it's nvidia's binary, compile an older one
[08:56] <teclaspresas> hello
[08:56] <thanius> macogw, so you can't downgrade from the repo?
[08:56] <Agent_bob> Enselic tr would be easier for a beginner,   blah | tr -- '\n' ' '
[08:57] <chenlong> hi
[08:57] <chenlong> ji
[08:57] <chenlong> are u ok?
[08:57] <chenlong> kdd
[08:57] <chenlong> fei
[08:57] <chenlong> mosca
[08:58]  * DarkJedi375 The Moment I Said It - Speak For Yourself - Imogen Heap (x«amarok)
[08:58] <Agent_bob> so anyone on the GRUB question ?
[08:58] <teclaspresas>  my effects doesn't work... why??? my grafic board is ati randeon 8550
[08:58] <redheat> hi everyone..
[08:58] <redheat> just asking if someone can help me?
[08:58] <macogw> thanius: feisty's drivers were compiled against feisty's kernel, not against gutsy's, so they wont work
[08:59] <macogw> !ask | redheat
[08:59] <ubotu> redheat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:59] <thanius> macogw, then I'll just grab the ones from nvidia.com
[08:59] <redheat> I installed ubuntu on my laptop, and right now I formatted and removed all partitions, yet I still
[08:59] <Enselic> Agent_bob: I tried sed but I don't get it to work:   echo -e "line one\nline two" | sed "s/\n/ /"
[08:59] <Agent_bob> Enselic tr would be easier for a beginner,   blah | tr -- '\n' ' '
[08:59] <redheat> right, but can I ask you not to ask me to not ask a question about asking a question....
[08:59] <Enselic> Agent_bob: thanks, but I'd rather like to know why that sed doesn't work
[09:00] <warbler> and I still....
[09:00] <redheat> can not compute..trrr..shh....
[09:00] <redheat> lol
[09:00] <redheat> ok..hereś the issue..I need to get rid of grup
[09:00] <Agent_bob> Enselic dubble quotes and   sed's syntax   sed is complex
[09:00] <macogw> Enselic: ive only ever used sed on files, but since it likes them at the end of the command, it might need | xargs sed instead of | sed
[09:00] <adhoc> echo -e "line one\nline two" | sed -e "s/\n/ /"
[09:00] <macogw> Enselic: or what Agent_bob said
[09:00] <adhoc> -e is missing
[09:00] <redheat> as I said earlier, I formatted and removed all partitions, yet I still get that grup error Grub Loading stage 1.5, Grub loading error 22
[09:00] <Agent_bob> Enselic try it with single quotes
[09:01] <inversekinetix> im so happy that i got quake3 to run
[09:01] <redheat> how can I get rid of grub completely
[09:01] <teclaspresas> !ask my effects doesn't work why??? he said:" the composite... bla bla bla" and how i can put on?? gb is ati randeon 9550
[09:01] <warbler> redheat: formatting all the hard drive will remove ubuntu and therefore grub
[09:01] <Enselic> Agent_bob: nope, doesn't work
[09:01] <macogw> redheat: grub isnt on a partition, it's on the MBR.  you get rid of it by putting something else on the MBR, like Windows' ntldr
[09:01] <redheat> yet..and this is the wonderful the thing, the grub is not gone
[09:01] <teclaspresas> !ask
[09:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:01] <redheat> ohhh...ok
[09:01] <macogw> redheat: if you want to keep ubuntu, then you need to keep grub though.  have you looked up what error 22 is?
[09:02] <teclaspresas> !my effects doesn't work
[09:02] <redheat> now youŕe talking..the only I get rid of it is to replace with another operating system, but isn the MBR
[09:02] <redheat> no to be honest
[09:02] <macogw> redheat: it might be that its looking in the old place for your /boot/grub/menu.lst and since you moved partitions and stuff, it doesnt know where to look now
[09:02] <macogw> redheat: you can reinstall it from the Super GRUB Disk
[09:03] <Nallep> redheat: you can do dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda (a or b or c, whatever your hard drive happens to be)
[09:03] <warbler> teclaspresas: putting - ! -  in asks the bot a question - what are you trying to do?
[09:03] <tarelerulz> I got some more ram for my dell inspiron 5100 and Instlalled it and it will not boot into into grub with it much less linux
[09:03] <redheat> the question is, isn't (it) supposed to go when I format and departition my system?
[09:03] <Nallep> redheat, that will write zero all over the MBR
[09:03] <redheat> ok
[09:03] <redheat> ok
[09:04] <redheat> this is plain new to me..like most other things..
[09:04] <Nallep> redheat: if you just format a partition, the MBR still wont be formatted
[09:04] <redheat> wow..
[09:04] <warbler> !grub
[09:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:04] <redheat> how about removing partitions..
[09:05] <Nallep> redheat: you need a partition editor or just zero it out
[09:05] <warbler> grub lives in /boot - removing /boot removes grub - yes?
[09:05] <redheat> shouldn't that handle the issue of grub and MBR alltogether...I used gparted, ubuntu's partitin manager..
[09:05] <Agent_bob> warbler no.
[09:05] <redheat> but really thanks for the info...
[09:05] <moonie> does anyone know of any probs setting up the sound fiesty fawn?
[09:05] <GreyGhost> having troubles with deluge and 7.04 :(
[09:05] <moonie> anything involving sound crashes for me
[09:06] <warbler> !sound
[09:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:06] <Nallep> warbler: sort of, the MBR still contains the boot loader, but will crap out when it can't find /boot
[09:06] <GreyGhost> seems to become unresponsive when i try to close deluge
[09:06] <GreyGhost> !deluge
[09:06] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[09:06] <moonie> thanks warbler
[09:06] <warbler> k
[09:06] <burwaco> hmm
[09:06] <redheat> ok..thank you so much guys..truely thankful for your help..Ubuto, Nallep and macogw..thank you all for your help..I can still thank you right?
[09:06] <Agent_bob> warbler removing /boot  removes part of the installed GRUB and the kernel/initramfs pairs     there is also the MBR that contains the portion of grub that bios first loads   and the rest of the package installed in /usr/share
[09:07] <Nallep> !thanks
[09:07] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:07] <redheat> lol
[09:07] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, that didn't do it..., question: How can I know what driver I'm using right now ? am I using the driver from the repos or the one from ati.com ?
[09:07] <redheat> lol
[09:07] <redheat> ok
[09:07] <redheat> take care
[09:07] <redheat> we need to find you mrs.bot by the way..being a lonely robot sucks..
[09:07] <MilitantPotato> fglrxinfo
[09:07] <redheat> lol
[09:07] <redheat> have a nice day and take care
[09:07] <warbler> Agent_bob: if there is no /boot/menu.lst then you won't know if grub is there?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> warbler removing the package removes all except the part in the MBR
[09:08] <Agent_bob> warbler incorrect
[09:08] <burwaco> How can I know what  ATI driver I'm using right now ? am I using the driver from the repos or the one from ati.com ?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> warbler if there is no menu.lst  then you wont get a menu  and the system will be unbootable
[09:08] <MilitantPotato> ./dev/sdb:
[09:08] <MilitantPotato>  setting drive write-caching to 1 (on)
[09:08] <MilitantPotato> :D
[09:09] <fdr> er... my clock didn't change automatically with the daylight saving -- any suggestion about how to debug the issue, please? thanks!
[09:09] <Nallep> warbler: the boid will still load the MBR boot loader, but the boot loader will stop there, cause it can't find its configuration, cause it's gone
[09:09] <macogw> warbler: grub will still be on the mbr and do the "grub...loading...." thing then go "zomg the partition with the menu is gone!!! *die*"
[09:09] <Nallep> bios*
[09:09] <Agent_bob> warbler you'll get something like  GR........ maybe some error numbers
[09:09] <warbler> Agent_bob: my point - no menu then no notification of grub
[09:09] <MilitantPotato> warbler: yep macogw is right, for me it said "grub grub grub grub" over and over
[09:09] <Agent_bob> warbler incorrect
[09:10] <MilitantPotato> warbler: Grub will load, but crash.
[09:10] <Agent_bob> warbler no menu.lst  no boot
[09:10] <burwaco> fdr, Administration > time & date, everything should be there ?
[09:10] <Agent_bob> more specificly no stage* no boot
[09:10] <VagaStorm> where in the instalation can I select to use lilo boot loader, I dont seem to get that option anywhere :(
[09:10] <warbler> Agent_bob: never wiped a disk then tried to boot it - so just checking
[09:10] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: fglrxinfo
[09:11] <Agent_bob> warbler how are you wiping it ?
[09:11] <ramvi> How do I run sound through my computer? I've connected the wii in the line in 3,5mm and want to use the speakers in the machine
[09:11] <MilitantPotato> sudo hdparm -W1 /dev/*** enabled write caching, nice little speed boost.
[09:11] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, ok, what should be different there when using the one from repos ?
[09:11] <macogw> VagaStorm: you cant
[09:11] <warbler> Agent_bob: if I format a disk I add a new OS before I boot it - no point otherwise
[09:11] <macogw> VagaStorm: ubuntu uses grub
[09:12] <MilitantPotato> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.0.6958 Release)
[09:12] <MilitantPotato> Is the new ATI's
[09:12] <VagaStorm> but it tels me I should use lilo due to me selecting xfs file system O.o
[09:12] <macogw> VagaStorm: *maybe* the text installer has LILO, but the GUI installer doesnt
[09:12] <gerro> trying to copy files over from 7.04 to my 7.10 install but no clue how to setup grub for more than one OS. Therefor I am using nfs to another comp to keep those files. But I broke the nfs listing on menu so like how do I install nfs and set it up?
[09:12] <MilitantPotato> VagaStorm: why xfs?  ext3 is better isn't it?
[09:12] <Nallep> warbler: technically your bios will think your computer has booted, cause the bios successfully passed control of the boot sequence onto something else (the MBR boot loader) but it wont proceed any further.  If you examine the first 512 bytes of the hard drive, you will still see the bootloader sitting in there, but it can't pass control of the boot sequence onto anything else.
[09:13] <VagaStorm> I whanted to test xfs since it has the ability to expand the filesystem while its live... but I'll just go for ext3 then :p
[09:13] <Agent_bob> warbler you probably aren't talking about "formatting a disk"  but rather  "formatting a partition on the disk"    so all we have told you is still correct.      however i didn't notice anyone mention the way to fix the MBR  which is normally to install something else M$ maybe...
[09:13] <gerro> maybe if I completely trash grub on this one hard drive it won't try to boot from it...
[09:14] <warbler> Nallep: redheat was asking how to remove grub - I just threw my two cents worth in
[09:14] <murlidhar> celeron 360 does it support i386.iso
[09:14] <ramvi> How do I run sound through (line in to speakers) the machine?
[09:14] <macogw> Agent_bob: i said that.  i said grub will stay until you replace it, like with windows ntldr
[09:14] <gerro> Agent_bob: just use dd or wipe to remove first 512kb from hard drive
[09:14] <Nallep> Agent_bob: the easiest way to clear out your MBR is to just zero out the first 512 bytes of the hard drive with dd
[09:14] <warbler> Agent_bob: trying to add to redheats question from earlier
[09:14] <macogw> murlidhar: yes
[09:14] <MilitantPotato> murlidhar: is it an i386 CPU?
[09:15] <Agent_bob> macogw ok.  i just didn't see it.
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> Yea, so it will :)
[09:15] <macogw> murlidhar: i386 works for anything that's intel or amd
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> but it will be very, very, slow.
[09:15] <murlidhar> i don't know MilitantPotato
[09:15] <murlidhar> macogw: it is intel
[09:15] <MilitantPotato> i386 started after the 8088 era
[09:15] <macogw> murlidhar: i know.  you said "celeron"
[09:15] <murlidhar> thanks
[09:15] <macogw> celery processors!
[09:16] <Agent_bob> yeah well.   my question is still can i install GRUB on this box  with the partition setup that i have, can it boot this thing or not ?
[09:16] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: yep
[09:16] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: just edit grub to point to the OS's, and it will load it.
[09:16] <gerro> murlidhar mcogw: i386 works for anything that isn't fruit oriented (apple). But i386 does *not* yield performance benefits, i686 hence i"x86" see 6 and 3 gone. i686 is latest (pentium 1-2 don't work with it)
[09:16] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato are you sure ?    you do know that grub can't be installed without a partition don't you ?
[09:17] <burwaco> is there anyone using the ATI restricted drivers trough the restricted driver manager ?
[09:17] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato i'm talking about installing grub   not editing the menu.lst
[09:17] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: why would you install it to an unpartitioned disk?
[09:17] <MilitantPotato> Trying to boot blank platters?
[09:17] <macogw> gerro: i386 wont work with SPARC either :p
[09:17] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato im just strange that way.
[09:18] <gerro> burwaco: ati= open source driver for earlier cards, flgrx= no its not a lame name written by gnu its actually ATI company, radeon- works with all ati cards with "radeon" anywhere in their name.
[09:18] <murlidhar> macogw: actually there is a user whose installation is not completed, and his installation windows closes after 94% while stops at "configuring boot loader"
[09:18] <warbler> who boots a freshly formatted drive?
[09:18] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato anyway hda no partitions   hdb no partitions  hdc 2 partitions.   linux on hdb     how would you install grub to boot from hdb and load linux  ?
[09:19] <kroony> bjr!kelkun peut m aidè?
[09:19] <gerro> macogw: if someone wants a server they usually go 64 so I didn't include sparc :/
[09:19] <warbler> !fr
[09:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:19] <murlidhar> gerro: i have p4. and using i386
[09:19] <Agent_bob> ooops    boot from hda   i mean.
[09:19] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: if hdb isn't partioned where is linux installed?
[09:19] <murlidhar> gerro: does it yield performance
[09:19] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato on hda
[09:19] <macogw> gerro: i could go look at debian.org and start listing architectures :p
[09:19] <Agent_bob> err
[09:19] <gerro> murlidhar: i386 kernel doesn't give performance benefit, you'd be better off getting kernel source and doing menu config then recompiling it, try reading gentoo handbook most it applies to ubuntu with good info on that
[09:19] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato on hdb
[09:19] <macogw> gerro:  like ARM and MIPS
[09:19] <Agent_bob> sorry.
[09:20] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: how is linux installed on HDB if it's not partitioned?
[09:20] <burwaco> gerro, I'd just like to know wich driver the system is using, the one from the repos or the one I installed from ati.com, things are a little screwed up over here...
[09:20] <Flynsarmy> Is there any wya to stop ubuntu stikcing my screen brightness back up to 100% after 10-15 seconds of idlign?
[09:20] <kroony> quel logiciel utiliser pour partitionner un disque?
[09:20] <gerro> murlidhar: how much memory you use? what driver? minimalize your kernel to only run what you need and you'll see huge performance jump
[09:20] <Nallep> Agent_bob: if you can set your bios to boot from hdb, just put grub on hdb
[09:20] <andruk> is there a way to burn an iso directly from a samba share?
[09:20] <murlidhar> macogw: any ideas what is the problem
[09:20] <warbler> !fr | kroony
[09:20] <ubotu> kroony: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:20] <dgjones> !fr | kroony
[09:20] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato you don't need a partition to have a file system    ever use a floppy disk   or a cdrom  ?
[09:20] <macogw> gerro: there's a much easier howto for compiling the ubuntu kernel, but really how much performance benefit will you notice?
[09:20] <kroony> ok thanks!
[09:20] <macogw> murlidhar: no
[09:21] <warbler> k
[09:21] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: news to me.
[09:21] <anggarda> good day, #ubuntu. I'm trying to duplicated my weblogs realtime. What would be a good way to do it.
[09:21] <Agent_bob> Nallep uyou can't install grub onto an hd without a partition
[09:21] <gerro> burwaco: don't use any gui related thing to take care of a graphics issue that's like using a shotgun to dislodge a bullet in your head. do nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf or switch nano with text editor of your choice mousepad, gedit, kwrite etc
[09:21] <anggarda> I would like to archive one copy while making the other readable.
[09:21] <murlidhar> gerro: anyways that is not the priorty right now . there is a user who is not able to install ubuntu.  at #problem2k
[09:21] <murlidhar> gerro: perhaps u can help
[09:21] <gerro> macogw: quite a lot, mainly in boot speed so helps for laptops
[09:21] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: you're distracting people from helping the people who really need it.
[09:21] <brade1> i am using ubuntu 7.10 on vitrtualbox and i cannot install aMSN
[09:22] <brade1> does anyone know how?
[09:22] <Agent_bob> Nallep so grub will have to be installed onto hdc1 or hdc2
[09:22] <burwaco> gerro, I'm no gui man... everything is done in terminal...
[09:22] <macogw> brade1: it has an autopackage
[09:22] <brade1> where can i get that??
[09:22] <blEsseD> I need games
[09:22] <blEsseD> I neede games!!!!!!
[09:23] <macogw> brade1: http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[09:23] <brade1> im a newbie to ubuntu so i have no idea where anything is or anything
[09:23] <gerro> burwaco: yeah nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf set the line to driver "vesa" that will get you back into graphical mode if you feel more comfortable there.
[09:23] <brade1> thanks
[09:23] <k1gw1> blEsseD: Add/Remove programs, select "games"
[09:23] <macogw> brade1: if it's not in the repo...
[09:23] <Nallep> blEsseD you can try cedega
[09:23] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: i said it 3 times before, type fglrxinfo into terminal
[09:23] <macogw> brade1: i think it should be in Applications > Add/Remove though
[09:23] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: ok?
[09:23] <brade1> yea
[09:23] <macogw> brade1: almost anything can be installed through Add/Remove or Synaptic
[09:23] <MilitantPotato> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.0.6958 Release) is the latest release from ATI (Not repo) burwaco
[09:24] <blEsseD> can you give me the site adress
[09:24] <gerro> bradel: find synaptic and use it to install stuff then find a settings menu and set things how you like (remember right click)
[09:24] <macogw> brade1: their site says its in uubntu's repos
[09:24] <blEsseD> ?
[09:24] <brade1> but it throws up a message saying "amsn cant be installed because of conflicting software" go into synaptic and remove that conflicting software
[09:24] <gerro> blEsseD: synaptic pwnz Add/Remove
[09:24] <brade1> and thats where i get confused
[09:24] <brade1> :(
[09:24] <blEsseD> thanks
[09:24] <macogw> brade1: use Synaptic to install amsn then
[09:24] <MilitantPotato> brade1
[09:24] <gerro> bradel: don't use add remove try synaptic then
[09:24] <macogw> brade1: it should tell you whats going on
[09:24] <MilitantPotato> go into synaptic, check the asm1 package, and it will tell you what it needs to remove.
[09:25] <brade1> oh ok
[09:25] <Nallep> blEsseD: http://www.transgaming.com/
[09:25] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, what I'd like to know is what is there when you use the one from the repo... > OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.0.6958 Release)
[09:25] <andruk> is there a way to burn an iso directly from a samba share?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> ok this is my thounght i (( mount /dev/hdc2 /mnt && grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/hda ))   is that even close to right ?
[09:25] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: one second.
[09:25] <blEsseD> thanks again
[09:25] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, thx
[09:25] <Nallep> blEsseD: that's if your looking to run windows games on linux
[09:25] <brade1> when i go to install it
[09:25] <brade1> this comes up
[09:25] <brade1> amsn:
[09:25] <brade1>  Depends: tcl8.4  but it is not installable
[09:25] <brade1>  Depends: tk8.4  but it is not installable
[09:25] <brade1>  Depends: tcltls but it is not going to be installed
[09:25] <brade1> can u help??
[09:26] <brade1> im runnin this on an emualtor jus remember
[09:26] <blEsseD> Nallep  no man.......I just want linux games
[09:26] <warbler> brade1: don't install from their site - go to applications - system - administration - synaptic package manager - then click search and type amsn
[09:26] <kimmey2k3> someone tried installing lotus notes?
[09:26] <brade1> thats what i did
[09:26] <brade1> and that message came up wen i tried to install it :(
[09:26] <burwaco> gerro, xorg uses fglrx driver, everything works fine, but I have to disable restricted-manager or session freezes....
[09:26] <brade1> they have unresolved dependices
[09:27] <warbler> brade1: which ubuntu do you use?
[09:27] <Nallep> blEssed: well you can just browse through the synaptic packages and install all the games
[09:27] <brade1> 7.10
[09:27] <Agent_bob> ok i'm off to test the grub installation   if it worked   i'll reinstall lilo  and make a note of howto.
[09:27] <dgjones> !repos | brade1, have you enabled the additional repositories
[09:27] <ubotu> brade1, have you enabled the additional repositories: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:27] <brade1> how do i do that?
[09:27] <MilitantPotato> 8.37.6 burwaco
[09:28] <brade1> will it explain it?
[09:28] <Nallep> blEsseD: the games and amusements section
[09:28] <MilitantPotato> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (8.37.6) or something very similar burwaco
[09:28] <prometoys> de.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be in a bad state.. the mirror seems gone. where I can report this?
[09:28] <dgjones> brade1, yes, have a look at ubotu's link, that should explain how to add the extra repositories
[09:28] <brade1> ok thanks for that i'll read it no
[09:28] <brade1> w
[09:29] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, thx, why doesn't it display 8.42.x something now ?
[09:29] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: no idea, I thought it was odd too.
[09:29] <warbler> brade1: with synaptic open at the top is a menu - settings - click it and choose repositories - then enable all
[09:29] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: open amdcccle
[09:30] <burwaco> yeah, drivers went open source few months ago...
[09:31] <MilitantPotato> yep
[09:31] <jimmacdonald> foxnews.com
[09:31] <jimmacdonald> suck
[09:31] <MilitantPotato> aiglx was the first big step
[09:31] <MilitantPotato> If we get good video driver support, video games will follow.
[09:32] <burwaco> I'm pretty happy with games already...
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> ah
[09:32] <burwaco> ET, GTASA...
[09:32] <brade1> this may seem like a stupid question but where is "enable all" in the repotories section??
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> Can't play any of the new ones
[09:32] <cua0> MilitantPotato: id has been supporting linux forever
[09:32] <brade1> i cant find it
[09:32] <burwaco> Halo etc...
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> cua0: one of the few.
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> very few
[09:32] <warbler> alot of games will be written with directx10 in mind
[09:32] <cua0> indeed
[09:32] <burwaco> indeed
[09:32] <MilitantPotato> DX10 is just to force people to get vista.
[09:33] <warbler> brade1: can't find what?
[09:33] <MilitantPotato> DX10 would easily run on XP, but they want more money.
[09:33] <brade1> how do i enable all the reposortiores?
[09:33] <warbler> !repos | brade1
[09:33] <ubotu> brade1: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:33] <matchtheclown> hey, I have a winfast XX1000 DVT running gusty... i can see it in the console commands seems to say a driver has been auto installed for it..... cant get picture in tvtime / xaw etc...
[09:34] <matchtheclown> i have googled my arse off
[09:34] <Agent_bob> well it works but it doesn't work well.    seems that grub demands that bios recognize all the drives it finds.   silly grub.
[09:34] <warbler> brade1: put the cursor on the link then right click
[09:34] <matchtheclown> any help would be awesome
[09:34] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: stop whining and re-code it :)
[09:34] <brade1> ok
[09:34] <vagamente> hi all... how many evolution users?
[09:35] <burwaco> vagamente, not me...
[09:35] <matchtheclown> ... :S
[09:35] <erUSUL> vagamente: o/
[09:35] <warbler> evolution is a resource hog
[09:35] <brade1> no sorry that didnt help
[09:35] <dgjones> vagamente, +1
[09:35] <brade1> i need things explained to me
[09:35] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato sorry i do not C++
[09:35] <brade1> what exactly do i need to do to enable all the repositories?
[09:36] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Hey everyone, anyone know much about Shorewall?
[09:36] <burwaco> I'm off for a few minutes to check fps in ET, bbiab... thx for the help MilitantPotato and gerro...
[09:36] <warbler> brade1: open the synaptic package manager from the menu
[09:36] <Agent_bob> !repos | brade1
[09:36] <ubotu> brade1: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:36] <Shapeshifter> I turned off screen dimming in power management but the screen still dims when on battery. how can I disable screen dimming?
[09:36] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: ok, stop whining :)
[09:36] <brade1> ok warbler i have done that
[09:36] <warbler> brade1: can you find it?
[09:36] <cua0> Shapeshifter: do you have hardware "Fn" button ?
[09:36] <brade1> yes synaptic is open at the moment
[09:36] <brade1> now what?
[09:37] <warbler> brade1: at the top see where it says " settings" ?
[09:37] <brade1> yes
[09:37] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato i'm think progress from whining to cursing,   i think it hosed my fs on hda
[09:37] <Shapeshifter> cua0: yes, I can change the brightnes with the buttons Fn-Up/Down, but it still will dim back (up or down) to the value configured in power management, even as I have disabled it there.
[09:37] <matchtheclown> so tuner cards hey....
[09:37] <jxxt> will some one help me to get a ati mobility 9000 card working nicely.. I tried the open source drivers and the killed my desktop. I tried the rglxorg driver that does make glx gears slow and choppy. What to do??
[09:37] <cua0> Shapeshifter: weird, mine acts independantly
[09:37] <brade1> i have found "settings"
[09:37] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: doing stuff the standard way carries less risks
[09:37] <warbler> brade1: click settings then from the menu that appears click on repositories
[09:37] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: might want to give it a try sometime :P
[09:38] <brade1> ok done that
[09:38] <brade1> now what?
[09:38] <animungo> can someone help me? i dont know where to download packages for ubuntu so that i can install nm-pptp for the network manager
[09:38] <matchtheclown> jxxt have you tried the ubuntu forums? the how to on what it took to get my ATI drivers working helped me i have an x850xt and it took me ages to figure out until i found the sticky on the forum
[09:38] <cua0> animungo: apt-get should work fine. or synaptics...
[09:38] <MilitantPotato> brade1: it's really, really simple bud, if you're having problems with this ubuntu might be to much
[09:38] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato heh  wheres the fun in that ?
[09:39] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: having a busted PC is fun?
[09:39] <animungo> cua0: i know that ... but thats impossible right now because i do not have a valid connection without vpn under linux ...
[09:39] <cua0> MilitantPotato: fixing it is fun! :)
[09:39] <warbler> brade1: make sure the first four checkboxes are selected - click each so that they have a tick
[09:39] <MilitantPotato> cua0: not if it's making you mad like what's happening to Agent_bob :)
[09:39] <jxxt> matchtheclown, thanks I will take a look you do not know the thread name??
[09:39] <burwaco> *back*
[09:40] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato yep it busted the first superblock   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/42455
[09:40] <MilitantPotato> burwaco: disable compiz before you play games :)
[09:40] <cua0> MilitantPotato: haha, true enough. i always get mad though, it's fun :)
[09:40] <matchtheclown> jxxt - i think on the ubuntu forum front page there is a link to the section something about screen drivers
[09:40] <animungo> cua0: i know that ... but thats impossible right now because i do not have a valid connection without vpn under linux ...
[09:40] <burwaco> MilitantPotato, I don't have compiz running...
[09:40] <cua0> animungo: i saw that, i don't really have anything else to say as i've never needed to use a vpn for anything
[09:41] <jxxt> matchtheclown, Choice, I will go look now
[09:41] <brade1> warbler - i have done that now
[09:41] <brade1> what now?
[09:41] <aspen> hello all, just a quick question, does anybody of you have problems to do an apt-get update? it seems that there are som missing servers, or is it just a local problem of my network?
[09:41] <kimmey2k3> quit
[09:41] <kimmey2k3> ?
[09:41] <animungo> cua0: okay ... but can you say me where to download packages for ubuntu manually?
[09:41] <matchtheclown> jxxt - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515573
[09:41] <MilitantPotato> ok people, i'm off
[09:41] <burwaco> animungo, do you really wantto do that ?
[09:42] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: good luck with your self tourture :)
[09:42] <burwaco> bye MilitantPotato
[09:42] <matchtheclown> NO one who actually knows anything about linux hangs in here do they?
[09:42] <animungo> burwaco: yes i do
[09:42] <prometoys> hi, apt-get update tell me, it couldn't fetch a Packages.gz, but the repository isn't in my sources.list
[09:42] <cua0> animungo: try the urls in the apt config files i think they are ftp'able
[09:42] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato already fixed  and lilo reinstalled in the MBR   thanks tho
[09:42] <burwaco> animungo, just go to the server...
[09:42] <warbler> brade1: select close at the bottom - click the search icon in synaptic and type amsn
[09:42] <prometoys> my sources.list: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-backports/main
[09:42] <prometoys> sorry
[09:42] <prometoys> my sources list http://www.prometoys.net/downloads/feisty-sources
[09:43] <brade1> warbler - ok
[09:43] <jxxt> matchtheclown, Thank you :)
[09:43] <dgjones> animungo, if you haven;t got a web connection on the computer you want to download packages for, you can download them from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and save to a cd/usb for installation
[09:44] <brade1> warbler - now what?
[09:44] <animungo> thank you dgjones
[09:44] <warbler> brade1: right click amsn and choose install - should solve the dependencies
[09:44] <gerro> burwaco: ut 4.0 is awesome ^^
[09:44] <herbalise> hi can anybody point me to tutorial for ATI drivers on 7.10 and compiz fusion
[09:44] <Frogzoo> matchtheclown: there's devs that lurk here
[09:44] <Nallep> !ati
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <burwaco> does anyone know what pdftotext does? I cought that process running after upgrade to gutsy...
[09:45] <burwaco> gerro, does it run on linux ?
[09:45] <Nallep> burwaco, it converts pdf's into text
[09:46] <Agent_bob> now why would i get this ???  tty24 [root@~] mount -o remount,ro /
[09:46] <Agent_bob> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:46] <burwaco> Nallep, ok, but why does it do that without me asking for it ?
[09:46] <inversekinetix> why wont the applications menu let me delete items from it?
[09:46] <Nallep> burwaco, it could be converting some help files
[09:46] <gerro> burwaco: yeah its native http://forums.urbanterror.net/index.php/topic,8165.0.html
[09:46] <havoque> is there some boot parameter that should be entered at the gutsy install prompt to force the use of old pata drivers, because with the default install options the new libata subsystem loads, thus treating my hdd as sda instead of hda, and imposes a limit of 15 partitions, i have 20, and want to install gutsy in hda17(/) and hda 18 (/home)?
[09:47] <gerro> havoque: 20 partitions and your still using such an old clunker?... wow
[09:48] <burwaco> Nallep, It was converting "O'Reilly Python Cookbook" while upgrading to gutsy, I'd like it to stop do stuff like that... :)
[09:48] <havoque> clunker? i'm not native english speaker...
[09:48] <gerro> havoque: clunker= old hardware
[09:48] <burwaco> gerro, it's free ?
[09:49] <havoque> it's a laptop, two years old
[09:49] <Agent_bob> good answer burwaco
[09:49] <gerro> burwaco: yeah like others I know tremulous, warsow, nexuiz, regnum, tmw. Have some fun man
[09:49] <brade1> warbler - thanks so much
[09:49] <havoque> what about the libata thingy?
[09:49] <brade1> am i able to install other programs as well
[09:50] <brade1> for example - audicity?
[09:50] <Nallep> burwaco: hmm, sounds like a good book, don't know why you'd want to stop it!  It could just be that the help manual for python is in pdf, and when it was upgrading, it converted it?
[09:50] <burwaco> gerro, but you need mapfiles from original cd ?
[09:50] <gerro> burwaco: no its stand alone now
[09:50] <Pierre> hello
[09:50] <burwaco> gerro, wget is going to have some work then...
[09:51] <Agent_bob> gerro he said the lappy was two years old,  if that's an old cluncker to you.  well,  i'm not going to get into that...  it's OT
[09:51] <burwaco> ;)
[09:51] <warbler> brade1: been busy - all working?
[09:51] <Nallep> burwaco: unless it's one of those new-fangled desktop search thingies that was indexing the book for quick desktop searches, do you have any of those desktop search thingies installed?
[09:51] <brade1> aMSN works now
[09:51] <Pierre> anyone has succeded to use the nvidia driver with a 8600GT on AMD64? I'm loosing my hope and about to switch until this issue is fixed :P
[09:51] <gerro> Agent_bob: it may be OT but I tend to not insult people who don't speak english. And yeah he said it was an older hard drive protocol. Yet he has 20 different partitions and uses it extensively.
[09:51] <burwaco> Nallep, nope
[09:52] <brade1> but i am wondering if i can install other programs as well
[09:52]  * warbler claps
[09:52] <warbler> brade1: which - synaptic search is the best option
[09:53] <brade1> audicity for example
[09:53] <flixh> Anybody with some insight into https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html ? I'm getting up to 5 Load_Cycles/min and hdparm -B and hdparm -S do not solve the problem...
[09:53] <brade1> or 7 - zip
[09:53] <Nallep> burwaco: check your cron/anacrontab and see if you have any indexing services running
[09:54] <Agent_bob> gerro and bavoque   it's scsi that limites the partitions   i assume he was wanting to have his pata setup as hda
[09:54] <burwaco> Nallep, it's weird, the first hours after the upgrade to gutsy my cpu monitor behaved like a gibbon, but now it quieted down... that's when I cought that pdftotext process...
[09:54] <burwaco> Nallep, no, my crontabs are empty...
[09:54] <gerro> Agent_bob: why not sda?
[09:54] <Agent_bob> gerro cause scsi limits the number of partitions
[09:54] <warbler> brade1:audacity is in the repos and in linux we use .tar.gz
[09:54] <Agent_bob> ?
[09:55] <brade1> how do i put programs on my startup?
[09:55] <brade1> warbler - oh ok thanks
[09:55] <burwaco> Nallep, I mean when I "crontab -e" as myself or root, both are empty...
[09:55] <viviersf> is it possible to skip the "language pack" downloading when you install via the live cd ?
[09:55] <warbler> brade1: applications - preferences - sessions - startup
[09:55] <brade1> thanks
[09:56] <Agent_bob> viviersf disconnect from the internet ?
[09:56] <warbler> k
[09:57] <burwaco> Nallep, how do you chack an anacron tab ?
[09:57] <brade1> what do i put in for the "command" for aMSN?
[09:57] <viviersf> Agent_bob, i need it to not try and do it in the first place
[09:57] <Nallep> burwaco: your the only one logged into your system?  I can only suggest at looking what programs are run after an upgrade.
[09:57] <warbler> brade1: read here - http://www.amsn-project.net/
[09:58] <Nallep> burwaco: cat /etc/anacrontab
[09:58] <brade1> ok thanks
[09:58] <fdv> Hi. anybody know how to specify a custom name suffix when building a kernel using debian/rules? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile doesn't really get into that, and the result isn't really named any differently from the stock kernels either.
[09:58] <warbler> brade1: right click the http from above
[09:58] <burwaco> Nallep, I'm not that l33t yet, I don't know most of ubuntu's processes...
[09:58] <Agent_bob> viviersf yeah i hear you.  but ubuntu is a "download only" type distro.   and the installer "ubiquity" is pretty ridgid    i don't have a better answer for you
[09:58] <CaLIa> !wiki wine
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki wine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <warbler> !wine
[09:58] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:59] <brade1> warbler - will that tell me what command to put in so aMSN will open on my startup?
[09:59] <Nallep> burwaco: Well I wouldn't worry much about it, most likely it's an indexing service that was installed in the upgrade
[09:59] <brade1> that = the website
[09:59] <burwaco> Nallep, this is nothing, is it ? 1       5       cron.daily       nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
[09:59] <burwaco> 7       10      cron.weekly      nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
[09:59] <burwaco> @monthly        15      cron.monthly nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly
[09:59] <flokuehn> !AppDB
[09:59] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:59] <viviersf> Agent_bob, ok
[09:59] <flokuehn> !Windows
[09:59] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:59] <warbler> brade1: it is the web page for amsn - so searching through there will get all you need
[09:59] <brade1> ok thanks
[10:00] <warbler> !doors
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <cua0> ugh, 4am again :(
[10:01] <burwaco> like, what does pdflush do ?
[10:01]  * Agent_bob wonders how a "mental health institute" would help with windows...   looks like the more sain a person was the less likely to...   never mind.
[10:01] <cua0> burwaco: man pdflush
[10:02] <burwaco> cua0, nope, no entry...
[10:02] <cua0> burwaco: i don't have pdflush on my system so i can't really say
[10:02] <Agent_bob> ok i'm off to do something "*structive"
[10:03] <stani> When I install xserver-xgl any other opengl applications either runs slow or crashes X... Is there a way to enable desktop effects without using xserver-xgl?
[10:03] <burwaco> cua0, ps-A|grep pdflush gives you nothing ?
[10:03] <erUSUL> stani: if you use ati nope
[10:03] <Nallep> burwaco: pdflush writes data to your hard drives
[10:03] <Yonkye> Hi all..
[10:04] <annaimkonki> ahi, anybody knows [approx] how long it takes to convert avi-DVDvideo in ubuntu 7.10 using DeVeDe?????
[10:04] <stani> nope, it's an Intel GM965
[10:04] <cua0> burwaco: hmm, so it does
[10:04] <brade1> warbler - how do i set up pidgin to be on my startup?
[10:04] <Yonkye> someone know how to solve make errors when trying to compile ieee80211
[10:04] <brade1> jus so u know i dont no how this all works as i am total newbie to ubuntu
[10:04] <burwaco> cua0, so you do have it, or don't ?
[10:04] <Yonkye> I'm gettins crazy reinstalling headers, source, gcc.etc
[10:05] <cua0> burwaco: well, it shows up in ps, so i must have it someplace.
[10:05] <_Johny> I just discovered "tail -f" switch to check logs in real time. cool!
[10:05] <oxkart7> ola
[10:05] <warbler> brade1: you need the command for it - look in the file system under /usr/bin/ to see if it is there
[10:05] <Nallep> burwaco: I *think* it's part of a kde package
[10:05] <oxkart7> ola
[10:06] <oxkart7> hola
[10:06] <warbler> brade1: can you search the file system?
[10:06] <Yonkye> hola
[10:06] <burwaco> Nallep, I'm running gnome...
[10:06] <_Johny> !es|oxkart7
[10:06] <ubotu> oxkart7: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:06] <burwaco> Nallep, but it's possible some package depends on a kde file....
[10:06] <cua0> Nallep: i'm running gnome too, and ps lists it for me as well
[10:06] <smartden> !smp
[10:06] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[10:06] <Nallep> burwaco: have you installed any apps that require kde libs? if soo, you probably have it for that reason
[10:07] <erUSUL> stani: then you do not need xgl at all
[10:07] <erUSUL> stani: just use the buit in aiglx
[10:07] <erUSUL> !aiglx
[10:07] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:07] <burwaco> probably SWScanner or someting...
[10:07] <Nallep> !pdflush
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdflush - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <jimmacdonald> is there a way to priortize which swap file Ubuntu uses first?
[10:08] <cua0> burwaco: ok, so why are you concerned about it?
[10:08] <stani> erUSUL: thx, I'll try!
[10:08] <smartden> where can i get smp kernel? i found only powerpc builds
[10:08] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: add the pri=number option to swap in fstab
[10:08] <brade1> warbler - where is the file system?
[10:08] <moonie> tried to follow the sound problem tutorials but still anything with sound crashes out.......aplay -l returns the info ok and alsa is definatley picked in the sound options.....anyone got any ideas please?
[10:08] <kidbuntu> can i use the ubuntu installer 64 bit and run it as a 32 bit system?
[10:09] <kidbuntu> i lost my 32 bit installer
[10:09] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: .... sw,pri=1 ...
[10:09] <JanC> smartden: all kernels are smp
[10:09] <Frogzoo> kidbuntu: indeed you cannot
[10:09] <kidbuntu> Frogzoo: ok.. thanks.....
[10:09] <warbler> brade1: go to applications home and click to open /home - are there arrows for up and back and forward near the top?
[10:09] <jimmacdonald> erUSUL: hmmm the swap files I just built aren't listed there
[10:09] <smartden> JanC, why i can't use second core then?
[10:10] <JanC> smartden: wat kernel do you use?
[10:10] <Nallep> burwaco: there's ALOT of processes that go running in the background on a system, the easiest and fastest way to learn about each process is to just type it into google and see what comes up, if your concerned about what each one does
[10:10] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: ooops maybe the same option can be passed to sawpon
[10:10] <smartden> JanC, Linux denis-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:10] <warbler> !process
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <JanC> smartden: and what CPU do you have?
[10:10] <burwaco> cua0, not really concerned, but: I installed woody when it came out, testes all kinds of software on this system, and never reinstalled ubuntu, so this is the 3rd or 4th upgrade, the system is kind of bloated now and I'd like to start cleaning up without reinstalling ubuntu...
[10:10] <smartden> JanC, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
[10:11] <cua0> burwaco: i see
[10:11] <cua0> burwaco: google might be your best friend then :/
[10:11] <warbler> brade1: in the application menu at the top select home
[10:11] <JanC> smartden: the -generic kernel should work then, and support smp
[10:11] <burwaco> cua0, like I had trouble with ati drivers and compiz because I tested beryl on the distro before feisty...
[10:11] <smartden> JanC, but it don't
[10:11] <JanC> smartden: why do you think it doesn't?
[10:11] <Nallep> burwaco: probably the best way to start that is to follow through the startup files, and see what processes are started up, and disable any you don't need
[10:12] <warbler> brade1: if there are no arrows we can get them easy
[10:12] <smartden> JanC, i says cpuinfo
[10:12] <Nallep> burwaco: there's no really easyway to do it
[10:12] <brade1> warbler - i went to "places - home folder"
[10:12] <burwaco> Nallep, the only way I know how to do that is via GUI, and I'm not satisfied, I want to see the files, same for the files that are used when you don't start gnome in failsafe...
[10:12] <smartden> JanC, cpu cores       : 1
[10:13] <brade1> warbler - is that right?
[10:13] <cua0> brade1: open a terminal
[10:13] <brade1> ok
[10:13] <brade1> then wat
[10:13] <warbler> brade1: soory - that was good - are there arrows for up etc?
[10:13] <Nallep> burwaco: well the place to start looking for the system startup files is in /etc/init.d/
[10:13] <brade1> warbler - yes
[10:13] <cua0> brade1: what are you looking for?
[10:13] <smartden> JanC, should i maybe activate hyperthreading?
[10:14] <Nallep> burwaco: you can also install the BUM package, Boot Up Manager
[10:14] <warbler> brade1: click the up arrow twice
[10:14] <knoppix> good night,everyonne
[10:14] <brade1> warbler - ok
[10:14] <brade1> cua0 - hold on
[10:14] <brade1> warbler - done
[10:14]  * cua0 holds breath
[10:14] <warbler> brade1: find the file named usr and double click it
[10:14] <JanC> smartden: hyperthreading is for P4 CPUs
[10:15] <brade1> warbler - done that
[10:15] <moonie> i get alsa-play: write error: Broken pipe     alsa-play: trying to reset soundcard as errors when i try to play anything does broken pipe point to anything in particular?
[10:15] <Nallep> burwaco: you'll have to see what scripts are started in rc1.d to rc5.d
[10:15] <warbler> brade1: find the file named bin and double click and look for podgin
[10:15] <smartden> JanC, i guess for amd64 too
[10:15] <burwaco> Nallep, how much ram do you have and how much of that ram is used when you just booted and system is idle (sorry to invade your ram privacy...)
[10:15] <brade1> ok
[10:16] <JanC> smartden: AMD has no CPUs with hyperthreading (which is fake dual-core)
[10:16] <Nallep> burwaco: I have 512MB and 270MB are in use now
[10:16] <cua0> warbler: what are you trying to get him to do?
[10:16] <smartden> JanC: and what should i do then?
[10:16] <brade1> warbler - i found somethin called pidgin and its a diamond shaped object
[10:16] <brade1> is that it?
[10:16] <Nallep> burwaco: I did a clean install of 7.10 last week
[10:17] <Radio1> Diamond shaped?.
[10:17] <JanC> smartden: how many CPUs do you see when you do  "ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/"
[10:17] <bullgard4> There is a command 'hcitool'. What does 'hci' stand for?
[10:17] <warbler> brade1: then in applications - preferences - settings - startup the command is      /usr/bin/pidgin
[10:18] <smartden> JanC: one, cpu0
[10:18] <warbler> cua0: walking a newbie through
[10:18] <burwaco> Nallep, I haven't done clean install scince woody... I'm using 250 of 512, running firefox, xchat and terminal... I'd like to clean up processes that are not crucial...
[10:18] <JanC> smartden: then something is wrong, I guess
[10:18] <brade1> ok
[10:18] <brade1> thanks
[10:18] <warbler> cua0: he's doing fine so far
[10:18] <cua0> warbler: yea, but that seems like about the most drawn out way of getting to that as possible
[10:18] <brade1> brb guys
[10:18] <smartden> JanC: i know. but what's wrong?
[10:18] <JanC> smartden: you're sure you're looking at the right system?  (no ssh to another system?)  :)
[10:19] <warbler> cua0: how to find the file system was a question...
[10:19] <JanC> smartden: and is your CPU recognized correctly?
[10:19] <arnath> does ubuntu come with any software that can make an image of an entire harddisk?
[10:19] <warbler> cua0: we were all new once
[10:19] <cua0> warbler: yes i understand that
[10:19] <smartden> JanC, yes
[10:19] <vice> sdf
[10:19] <vice> asdfasssssss
[10:20] <brade1> back
[10:20] <vice> ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:20] <fokez> hi, does anybody know the problem when sound goes out from speaker and head set simultaneously ??? I've got Hewlett-Packard 530 laptop. And I could not find any audio drivers or something like that
[10:20] <vice> sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[10:20] <brade1> warbler - wat would the command for amsn be?
[10:20] <Nallep> burwaco: best thing I can suggest is to install BUM (if you are too keen on using the command line to edit your startup files) and just go through the startup scripts one by one seeing which ones are essential, and which ones you can disable
[10:20] <warbler> cua0: using find or locate in terminal didn't seem appropriate yet
[10:20] <cua0> warbler: what i don't understand is why you guided him through the gui finder thingy to find that file rather than using the find functions
[10:20] <smartden> JanC: cpuinfo looks good, unless core count
[10:20] <warbler> brade1: find if it is in /usr/bin
[10:20] <brade1> ok
[10:20] <cua0> warbler: there's a 'search' thing on the taskbar by default isn't there?
[10:21] <warbler> cua0: not on mine
[10:21] <brade1> warbler no it isnt
[10:21] <warbler> cua0: I had to add it
[10:21] <burwaco> Nallep, bum already seems to be installed...
[10:21] <cua0> warbler: i thoguht there was on mine, on the top pane, toward the right hand side, near the 'switch user' button
[10:22] <warbler> brade1: try in /opt - same process but opt instead of usr and bin
[10:22] <ubuntu_> hi can i install ubuntu form kubuntu?
[10:22] <warbler> cua0: never had a switch user icon
[10:22] <cua0> ubuntu_: on to the same machine?
[10:22] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:22] <Nallep> burwaco: ok, you'll have to start looking through your startup scripts, and using google to find more information about each process that starts and see if you really need it or not, but I warn you it's not easy, and it it breaks you'll have to boot into single user mode and undo the change
[10:22] <jhaig> ubuntu_: Yes.  install the ubuntu-desktop package.
[10:22] <cua0> warbler: oh, which install are you running?
[10:22]  * heatxsink_ ?
[10:23] <arnath> does ubuntu come with any software that can make an image of an entire harddisk?
[10:23] <warbler> fron hoary to feisty
[10:23] <cua0> ah
[10:23] <warbler> *from
[10:23] <cua0> ok, on gutsy there is
[10:23] <erUSUL> !info partimge | arnath
[10:23] <ubotu> arnath: Package partimge does not exist in gutsy
[10:23] <TAsn> I have installed the new ATI driver successfully, though after doing so I read that wine and the driver does not work together =D too bad... though the driver works great.
[10:23] <erUSUL> !info partimage | arnath
[10:23] <ubotu> arnath: partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-17 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[10:23] <ubuntu_> will i have any problems or crashes
[10:23] <adson> moin
[10:23] <erUSUL> arnath: also you can use dd directly...
[10:24] <cua0> ubuntu_: you shouldn't as long as you install all the dependant packages
[10:24] <arnath> erUSUL: its to back up a windows partition on my laptop
[10:24] <cast> arnath: dd, cat,
[10:24] <burwaco> Nallep, like, cron and anacron both start at boot, is it really necessary to have both ?
[10:24] <jhaig> ubuntu_: You shouldn't.  It will just install a collection of packages to run the Gnome desktop instead of KDE.
[10:24] <erUSUL> arnath: dd if=/dev/sda of=image-file.img
[10:24] <ubuntu_> ok thnx
[10:24] <erUSUL> arnath: then check partimage (it has some issues with ntfs)
[10:24] <warbler> cua0: you're right with the search but baby steps were needed from the questions and we did it and he is doing more on his own now with less guidance
[10:25] <brade1> warbler - there is nothing in opt
[10:25] <cua0> warbler: fair enough
[10:25] <cast> arnath: not using disk images is a whole lote more space efficent, like using `dump`, [since ntfs sucks it probably doesn't have a dump], or tarballing it
[10:25] <cua0> warbler: i didn't mean to criticize, i was just wondering why
[10:25] <Nallep> burwaco: I found a guide form someone who already did what your looking to do, have a look at it...I havn't done it, so I don't know how accurate the guide is. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[10:25] <smartden> please any one else, need help to activate *second core* on my dual core processor
[10:25] <JanC> smartden: do you know if on other OS'es (e.g. live CDs, Windows, other/earlier linux installs, ...) you see more cores?
[10:25] <warbler> brade1: next step - open home and look there
[10:26] <burwaco> Nallep, thx, I'm going to try it out, I'll let you know how it turned out...
[10:26] <arnath> cast: i want to install my laptop to ubuntu, but theres tons of files on there and i don't want to weed them out (riskin i forget something), so i want to make an image, then i can browse it when needed and (in case ubuntu doesnt work on it) put it back on my laptop
[10:26] <warbler> cua0: no probs
[10:26] <smartden> JanC, sure, in windows xp i see two cores
[10:26] <cast> smartden: pastebin contents of /proc/cpuinfo, surely its detecting both cores
[10:26] <brade1> warbler - wat exactly am i looking for?
[10:26] <Nallep> burwaco: ok, goodluck.  I think that guide is for 6.10 though, so be carefull
[10:26] <warbler> brade1: a file named amsn
[10:26] <smartden> cast: it detects only one core
[10:26] <cast> arnath: well, by all means use dd if you've got the space/time
[10:26] <arnath> erUSUL: dd if won't work with ntfs?
[10:27] <cua0> smartden: you shouldn't need to
[10:27] <arnath> cast: will dd work with ntfs?
[10:27] <Bokeh> is there an easy way to install acrobat reader under gutsy x64 through aptitude/apt get? back in the days of dapper/edgy i'd just download the acroread dpkg and --force-arch it but since i'm using FAI to install now i'd prefer it to be a bit more clean
[10:27] <JanC> smartden: paste the cpuinfo anyway, maybe there is some other clue
[10:27] <cua0> smartden: do a dmesg
[10:27] <stani> I'm still unable Desktop effects. I've got an Intel GM965. Shouldn't it work out of the box? Do I have to enable AIGLx or something?
[10:27] <cua0> smartden: dmesg|grep CPU
[10:27] <cast> arnath: dd doesn't care. dd makes bit for bit copies of partitions/files/drives
[10:27] <brade1> warbler - all ive got is "amsn_recieved"
[10:27] <BlueSkyNIS> Hi you all :)
[10:27] <brade1> not just "amsn"
[10:27] <fokez> hi, does anybody know the problem when sound goes out from speaker and head set simultaneously ??? I've got Hewlett-Packard 530 laptop. And I do not know if it is question of bad drivers or bad settings, please help
[10:27] <burwaco> Nallep, yes, I've seen this page before, have you ever heard of bootchart ?
[10:27] <warbler> brade1: if it isn't there we need to go to terminal and do some simple stuff
[10:28] <arnath> cast: ok, now suppose i want to put the image back later on, how do i do that?
[10:28] <JanC> stani: aiglx is enabled by default and should work perfectly on i965
[10:28] <cast> smartden: so you've looked in /proc/cpuinfo already, is what you're telling me?
[10:28] <BlueSkyNIS> anyone know a utility to convert flv files ti avi?
[10:28] <brade1> ok warbler
[10:28] <cua0> fokez: probably settings.
[10:28] <brade1> lets do it now
[10:28] <cast> BlueSkyNIS: mencoder
[10:28] <stani> JanC : Any ideas why it wouldn't?
[10:28] <warbler> brade1: in your menu is terminal - open one of those
[10:28] <BlueSkyNIS> thanks ;)
[10:28] <erUSUL> arnath: i say "some issues" i didn't say it wont work... anyway dd does a byte by byte copy it does not care on any high level things like filesystems
[10:28] <smartden> cua0: so? [    0.368000] CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping 02
[10:28] <smartden> [    5.356000] CPU #1 not responding - cannot use it.
[10:28] <JanC> stani: what doesn't work?
[10:28] <brade1> i now have terminal open
[10:28] <cast> arnath: switch the in file and out file arguments to dd
[10:28] <JanC> smartden: broken CPU?
[10:28] <warbler> brade1: one min
[10:28] <smartden> cast: it says that i use only one core
[10:29] <brade1> ok
[10:29] <arnath> cast, erUSUL : ok great thanks :D i will go for dd then :)
[10:29] <smartden> JanC, windows can use it
[10:29] <cua0> smartden: well, it sees that you are using a dual core cpu... beyond that. weird?
[10:29] <stani> When I try to check the box for Desktop effects, it just says Desktop effects could not be enabled. When I try to use Compiz it doesn't keep the settings either, but there is no error msg
[10:29] <cast> smartden: weird....could  you use both cores in xp? [not could you see both cores, but could you use both]
[10:29] <JanC> stani: which driver do you use?
[10:30] <stani> xorg-intel
[10:30] <smartden> cast: yes, i can use both cores, for sure!
[10:30] <SNy> Uh, would anyone know what is up with de.archive.ubuntu.com being "empty"?
[10:30] <Nallep> burwaco: ya, I've heard of it, never really used it, I find my boot just fine, so don't tweak with it much, when I do, I usually already know what service I'm going to start/stop
[10:30] <erUSUL> arnath: search for a how to on the net about doing backups with dd
[10:30] <fokez>  /msg NickServ INFO zels
[10:30] <frojnd> Does anyone else has similar problem? I was connected to wireless network yesterday. But now I can't connecet :S
[10:31] <smartden> cua0: but i can't use both cores. :(
[10:31] <stani> I mean xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:31] <warbler> brade1: type in the terminal        sudo updatedb       then give your password
[10:31] <cua0> smartden: sounds like a hardware issue to me. check your bios
[10:31] <JanC> stani: my laptop has the same GPU and it works...
[10:31] <murlidhar> SNy: it is not neccessary that archives that are near to ur geographical are the fastest
[10:31] <smartden> cua0: what should i look for?
[10:31] <cua0> smartden: voltages
[10:31] <stani> JanC : Strange... But thanks anyway!
[10:32] <JanC> stani: do you use dual screen or anything?
[10:32] <erUSUL> arnath: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html
[10:32] <murlidhar> SNy: there is an option to determine which server is fastest to u
[10:32] <SNy> It's not about being slow, it's about being empty. There are no directories there.
[10:32] <cua0> smartden: things that look out of place... i don't do well explaining hardware diagnostics, i apologize.
[10:32] <dgjones> SNy, just tried the archive & its not empy, its got everything from 6.06 to 7.10
[10:32] <arnath> erUSUL: ah thanks :D
[10:32] <warbler> brade1: it'll take a while - it updates all files listed so we can do a search
[10:32] <brade1> ah ok thanks
[10:32] <dgjones> SNy, http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/
[10:33] <stani> nope, no dual screen or anything weird, It's pretty much a fresh installation of ubuntu 7.10...
[10:33] <smartden> cua0: ok. thanks. i'll try. brb
[10:33] <brade1> i think its done
[10:33] <Sara> PERL
[10:33] <Sara> PERLA
[10:33] <miss^l0t3k> hi this maybe not best place to ask, but i dont really know where else, I am using truecrypt, to mount an encrypted volume I created in windows.  i get this errors in terminal http://pastebin.ca/756263 anyone have idea how to fix?
[10:33] <cua0> smartden: boot windows too
[10:33] <GreyGhost> weird ... i'm downloading the 7.10 release off the torrent .. but it seems that i'm not uploading anything ...
[10:33] <murlidhar> SNy: perhaps they are undergoing something . probly changing the server . or something
[10:33] <JanC> stani: do you have enough RAM assigned to the i965 ?
[10:33] <smartden> cua0: for what?
[10:33] <cua0> smartden: and open up the cpu monitor and run an intensive app that'll use both cores
[10:33] <SNy> Yeah, but the update process doesn't work, because http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is empty.
[10:34] <cua0> smartden: just to be sure it's working in windows
[10:34] <stani> JanC : Maybe I should remove the drivers for i810 and i740
[10:34] <JanC> stani: and you could also try the i810 driver
[10:34] <murlidhar> SNy: then change ur repo server
[10:34] <smartden> cua0: ok. i'll do
[10:34] <miss^l0t3k> bradel, warbler  amsn is .amsn hidden folder in home dir
[10:34] <stani> k, i'll try
[10:34] <cua0> smartden: sounds like its a hardware issue though, unless some weird tweaking in the kernel is required for your obscure "intel" processor..
[10:35] <JanC> stani: you can change this from the GUI now (if you didn't know yet)
[10:35] <warbler> miss^l0t3k: tell brade1 please
[10:35] <burwaco> Nallep, this post is exactly what I was looking for, thx...
[10:35] <miss^l0t3k> warbler, i say his name too 8-] hehe
[10:35] <stani> JanC : how do I do that?
[10:36] <warbler> miss^l0t3k: he wants the command to add it to startup
[10:36] <JanC> stani: System --> Administration --> Screens and Graphics
[10:37] <JanC> stani: or Systeem --> Beheer --> Screens and Graphics in Dutch  :)
[10:37] <stani> ah thx!
[10:37] <miss^l0t3k> warbler, bradel, assumi9ng you're in gnome, simply adding "amsn" command in sessions would suffice yes?
[10:37] <OverUnitydotCom> :)
[10:37] <warbler> maybe needs path to file
[10:38] <brade1> do i still need the terminal?
[10:38] <cua0> brade1: always :)
[10:38] <miss^l0t3k> bradel /usr/share/amsn/amsn
[10:38]  * cua0 clings to the old ways
[10:38] <brade1> ok :)
[10:38] <flixh> anybody here familiar with the "ubuntu kills your harddrive" problem? hdparm -B or hdparm -S don't solve it for me...
[10:39] <cua0> flixh: no. that'd be brand new info to me, how does ubuntu kill a hard drive?
[10:39] <kst-> hi there... i wanna setup my tv-out on ati x700 with fglrx.. can anyone help me? when i plug in my tv and just restart X, i get a cloned image but it is somewhat too big for my tv, it has to scroll :) so what's the best way to set this up? 2 monitors?
[10:39] <brade1> miss^l0t3k - /usr/share/amsn/amsn is that wat i use for the command to make amsn open on the startup?
[10:39] <OverUnitydotCom> ok
[10:40] <miss^l0t3k> bradel, add it to preferences - sessions (assuming you're using gnome)
[10:40] <flixh> cua0: look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/59695 or /. or a lot of other blog entries
[10:40] <kst-> can I possibly specify my TV as 2nd monitor with the new displayconfig-gtk thing?
[10:40] <warbler> brade1: only if that is where it is
[10:40] <brade1> miss^l0t3k - ok, yes im using gnome
[10:40] <brade1> warbler - ok
[10:40] <brade1> brb
[10:40] <BlueSkyNIS> hey mencoder worked great! :)
[10:40] <warbler> brade1: look for it there
[10:40] <flixh> cua0: might not be cased by ubuntu in the strict sense, but is parking my hdd heads up to 5 times/min => not good...
[10:40] <OverUnitydotCom> nice
[10:41] <miss^l0t3k> there also a symlink in /usr/bin
[10:41] <zibi> do you speak in polish?
[10:41] <warbler> miss^l0t3k: hes left
[10:41] <miss^l0t3k> oopz
[10:42] <cua0> flixh: heh
[10:42] <warbler> *he's
[10:42] <miss^l0t3k> okey warbler sorry
[10:42] <warbler> no prob
[10:42] <zibi> sorry??
[10:42] <goodhabit> Hello. How I can change bootsplash? I have installed ubuntustudio over ubuntu, then deleted. but bootsplash not changed back.
[10:42] <warbler> !sorry
[10:42] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[10:42] <miss^l0t3k> hehe
[10:43] <OverUnitydotCom> what is a good virus and firewall?
[10:43] <toplok> Hi, I have selected "visual effects" - Extra in Ubuntu 7.10 and it works fine, is there any place to adjust settings ?
[10:43] <OverUnitydotCom> what is a good anti-virus and firewall?
[10:43] <cast> OverUnitydotCom: don't need either, this isn't windows
[10:43] <bullgard4> What command will detect Bluetooth devices?
[10:43] <arnath> erUSUL: ntfsclone --output - /dev/hda1 | ssh host ’cat > backup.img’                   would do the trick yes? (copy the entire windows partition to another computer and the resulting file is still bootable?)
[10:43] <OverUnitydotCom> ok :)
[10:43] <brade1> back
[10:43] <brade1> thanks for that
[10:43] <OverUnitydotCom> sweet
[10:44] <miss^l0t3k> toplok, compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:44] <cast> OverUnitydotCom: if you insist on setting things up in a silly manner a firewall will help you, for a time, in the end firewall won't protect you from silly things
[10:44] <cua0> toplok: open up synaptics and add compizconfig, then you'll get the "configure" button under the advanced settings where you enable it
[10:44] <goodhabit> toplok, open software installer and search by keyword "effects"
[10:44] <OverUnitydotCom> silly things?
[10:44] <OverUnitydotCom> lol
[10:44] <OverUnitydotCom> whats that?
[10:45] <brade1> warbler - Gtk2::TrayIcon  XML::Simple  Crypt::SSLeay
[10:45] <OverUnitydotCom> :)
[10:45] <brade1> where can i get them for the program "check gmail"
[10:45]  * neur1 is away: I'm busy
[10:45] <cast> OverUnitydotCom: like setting up your computer so anyone can browse through your files
[10:45] <goodhabit> OverUnitydotCom, firestarter, kmyfirewall, etc. clamav is good anti-virus
[10:46] <toplok> ok, thanks! I love Ubuntu 7.10, you guys are doing a better and better software :)
[10:46] <warbler> brade1: don't do gmail so i don't know - try a general question and see if someone else knows?
[10:46] <OverUnitydotCom> hopefuly im not doing that
[10:46] <brade1> ok thanks
[10:46] <brade1> Gtk2::TrayIcon  XML::Simple  Crypt::SSLeay  - this is for check gmail
[10:46] <brade1> does anyone know where i can get them?
[10:47] <warbler> !gmail
[10:47] <ubotu> gmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[10:47] <brade1> i need them to run check gmail
[10:47] <OverUnitydotCom> thnx habit
[10:47] <miss^l0t3k> bradel why not just use amsn pop3 plugin 8-]
[10:47] <cua0> brade1: ask a specific question in a single line, all i ever see from you are jumbled sentence fragments
[10:47] <brade1> really?
[10:47] <kbrooks> brade1, um...
[10:48] <miss^l0t3k> brade1, ya rly
[10:48] <kbrooks> brade1, you need to install that package
[10:48] <brade1> where can i get it?
[10:48] <miss^l0t3k> bradel look http://www.amsn-project.net/plugins.php
[10:48] <cua0> the package fairy
[10:48] <BakaBug> hello ?
[10:48] <miss^l0t3k> saves running yet another program anyway
[10:48] <warbler> easy on the youngins folks
[10:48] <brade1> miss^10t3k i want to run it
[10:49] <brade1> culd i get that package in synaptic?
[10:49] <kbrooks> bradappel, it's a package in ubuntu, which you can get by using system > administration > synaptic
[10:49] <kbrooks> brade1, ^
[10:49] <kbrooks> bradappel, sry
[10:49] <brade1> wat do i type into get it?
[10:49] <cua0> brade1: why don't you try searching for it in syntaptics and/or try the url that miss^l0t3k supplied?
[10:49] <kbrooks> brade1, um, search for checkgmail
[10:49] <brade1> ok thanks kbrooks
[10:50] <brade1> cua0 thanks but im goin to try it first
[10:50] <cua0> try what first?
[10:50] <brade1> ur suggestion has been noted :)
[10:50] <brade1> checkgmail
[10:50] <erUSUL> arnath: it would do the backup it it is bootable... i dunno
[10:50] <kbrooks> cua0, synaptic is a package manager. synaptics is a touchpad driver
[10:50] <gluonman> I have a question directed to anyone. I'm trying to properly understand the directions to install Windows Media Player 6.4. (http://tsx.nl/index.php?p=wmp4linux), but I'm not clear on the directions.
[10:50] <miss^l0t3k> gluonman, why on earth u wanna do that 8-]
[10:50] <erUSUL> arnath: maybe you need to boot with a windows cd and make a fixmbr or something
[10:50] <miss^l0t3k> hehe
[10:50] <cua0> kbrooks: lol, yea, that extra 's' likes to pop in there
[10:50] <cast> gluonman: ....are you high?
[10:51] <arnath> erUSUL: ok :)
[10:51] <kbrooks> brade1, when a list of packages pop up, left click on the first one. and pick install somewhere
[10:51] <gluonman> miss^l0t3k, I tend to like Windows Media Player, and I have yet to find a media player in ubuntu that has some of the functions that I'm looking for.
[10:51] <amadeux> If I do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop on my gutsy, can I easily come back to my existing setup (gnome, ubuntu-desktop I guess)? And how can I switch between the three without losing any information etc?
[10:51] <kbrooks> brade1, then apply
[10:51] <gluonman> Unless there's something out there I haven't seen yet.
[10:51] <miss^l0t3k> gluonman, blasphemy!! each to their own i guess 8-]
[10:51] <kbrooks> amadeux, log out and in.
[10:51] <Abuh> amadeux: you can select wich one to use in the login screen
[10:52] <smartden> cua0: it did't helped
[10:52] <cua0> amadeux: theres a settings menu.. treed.
[10:52] <cua0> smartden: wha?
[10:52] <gluonman> miss^l0t3k, well I was only looking for help figuring out the directions.
[10:52] <cast> gluonman: what functions would those be?
[10:52] <cua0> smartden: in windows it worked 100% ?
[10:52] <miss^l0t3k> gluonman, sorry idk how to help
[10:52] <smartden> cua0: i didn't found anything strange in BIOS
[10:52] <amadeux> kbrooks, Abuh yeah, but the logo while booting etc. has also changed, and gdm changes to kdm etc. Is there a simple way to switch all of this to either ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[10:52] <eiaway> hello guys. I was having problems with getting the boot-disk to work, and someone pointed me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto . That page tells me "Then use rawrite command: rawrite -f sbm.bin (rawwritewin.exe sbm.bin)" but to me it's a little unclear where exactly to enter that command
[10:52] <kbrooks> gluonman, dont install wmp on linux, there are better tools. also try to avoid unnecessarily saying "i have a question directed to anyone"
[10:52] <amadeux> cua0, treed?
[10:52] <smartden> cua0: in windows it worked 100%
[10:52] <cua0> smartden: thats fine, i guess.
[10:52] <eiaway> (note: i'm a noob :) )
[10:52] <gluonman> cast, the media players in ubuntu I've come across yet don't have a rewind function (just a jump back to an eralire spot function). Also, I want to be able to save my playlists.
[10:53] <cua0> amadeux: yea, forum speak for "a whole bunch of other people typed faster than me the same thing i was about to say"
[10:53] <brade1> good i got that working
[10:53] <kbrooks> amadeux, it's not that hard
[10:53] <gluonman> kbrooks, wmp 6.4 is on the wiki.wine website of compatible applications.
[10:53] <brade1> does anyone know the command to get that on my startup as well??
[10:53] <smartden> cua0: btw i have to boot with noapic option
[10:53] <cua0> smartden: well, it might be something you have to muck about with in the kernel?
[10:53] <cast> gluonman: saving playlists is easy, so is seeking backwards
[10:53] <JimQode> does anybody know how I can convert a X11 cursor to bitmap? GIMP does not open it.
[10:53] <kbrooks> amadeux, you need to reconfigure the packages usplash and gdm
[10:54] <gluonman> cast, but rewinding is different than just jumping back.
[10:54] <amadeux> kbrooks, reconfigure how?
[10:54] <warbler> gluonman: those instructions were written byb someone very familiar with the command line
[10:54] <gluonman> warbler, I noticed that. And I'm not yet that familiar with it.
[10:54] <smartden> cua0: crap!
[10:54] <kbrooks> amadeux, sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash gdm on the terminal
[10:54] <cua0> smartden: yea, crap indeed. what kernel are you using btw?
[10:54] <gluonman> warbler, getting there, though.
[10:54] <amadeux> kbrooks, ok
[10:55] <bullgard4> What command will detect Bluetooth devices?
[10:55] <brade1> does anyone know the command to get that on my startup as well??
[10:55] <effeietsanders> hello guys. I was having problems with getting the boot-disk to work, and someone pointed me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto . That page tells me "Then use rawrite command: rawrite -f sbm.bin (rawwritewin.exe sbm.bin)" but to me it's a little unclear where exactly to enter that command -- > using Windows ME and trying to get a bootdisk of Ubuntu6.06LTS to work
[10:55] <smartden> cua0: 2.6.22-14-generic
[10:55] <warbler> gluonman: did you download and change to the directory where the download ended up?
[10:55] <kbrooks> amadeux, sudo will ask for your password by saying something like (hold on)
[10:55] <kbrooks> hm k
[10:55] <cua0> smartden: your processor x64 compatible? might try an x64 kernel? i really don't know.
[10:55] <kbrooks> he left
[10:56] <gluonman> I downloaded it to my home folder. I'm just not clear what to do with it after that.
[10:56] <gluonman> warbler, I downloaded it to my home folder. I'm just not clear what to do with it after that.
[10:56] <alim> hi
[10:56] <smartden> cua0: yes, it is. but i don't really want to install x64 kernel
[10:56] <smartden> cua0: i'll look into kernel options
[10:56] <effeietsanders> (btw, cmd did not work here in the run, but command did, maybe usefull to add that to the guide)
[10:56] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, type the command in the command prompt
[10:56] <cua0> smartden: aye, look in to kernel options, sorry couldn't help
[10:57] <smartden> cua0: no problem
[10:57] <warbler> gluonman: you need to change to the folder the downloaded files are in - in terminal type ls
[10:57] <smartden> cua0: Dell computers was always a bit strange ;)
[10:57] <gluonman> warbler, okay.
[10:57] <warbler> gluonman: look for a file that has wmp in it
[10:58] <gluonman> warbler, see it.
[10:58] <comsa> how do ubuntu make buck
[10:58] <JanC> comsa: "Ubuntu" doesn't have to
[10:58] <warbler> gluonman: type cd (the name of the file)
[10:58] <cua0> comsa: regler day jobs like the rest of us
[10:58] <JanC> comsa: but Canonical makes bucks by sellign support and stuff like that
[10:58] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: s: the command is returned as invalid
[10:59] <brade1> does anyone know the command to get that on my startup as well??
[10:59] <comsa> i want to buy cds is there only the live cd 7.10
[10:59] <gluonman> warbler, one word (e.g. cdwmp64.tgz), or two (e.g. cd wmp64.tgz)?
[10:59] <brade1> *does anyone know the command to get checkgmail on my startup?
[10:59] <JanC> comsa: live-cd = install cd = free
[10:59] <naut> how do check the load cycle count on dapper
[10:59] <cua0> comsa: what else did you want on them?
[10:59] <gluonman> warbler, neither seemed to work.
[10:59] <warbler> gluonman: exactly as it is typed
[10:59] <cast> eh, no
[11:00] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, cd [directory where rawwritewin.exe is located] replace that
[11:00] <telmich> did anyone see the problem, that typing in firefox and other gtk applications 'hangs'
[11:00] <cua0> naut: top or w or ps -A .
[11:00] <effeietsanders> ah, k
[11:00] <dgjones> !shipit | comsa, you can get installation cd's sent to you in the post for free if you can't download them
[11:00] <ubotu> comsa, you can get installation cd's sent to you in the post for free if you can't download them: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[11:00] <miss^l0t3k> bradel, find where the file was installed, then add it to sessions, the same as you did with amsn
[11:00] <gluonman> warbler, I tried.
[11:00] <warbler> gluonman: sorry cd wmp64.t.gz
[11:00] <telmich> as in if I click a textfield it needs about 10 seconds before I can write into it
[11:00] <gluonman> warbler, okay.
[11:00] <cast> tar zvxf wmp64.tgz; cd whateverdirgotextracted surely
[11:00] <comsa> wow
[11:00] <brade1> g2g
[11:01] <warbler> gluonman: or is it cd wmp64.tar.gz
[11:01] <brade1> thanks for all ur help tonight warbler and evey1 else!!!!
[11:01] <brade1> bye bye
[11:01] <gluonman> warbler, bash: cd: wmp64.tgz: Not a directory
[11:01] <ikonia> warbler tar zxvf wmp64.tar.gz
[11:01] <ikonia> gluonman wmp64.tar.gz
[11:01] <flixh> naut: smartctl -a /dev/hd[a-z]
[11:01] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, then rerun that command
[11:01] <gluonman> warbler, the file that was downloaded, and that now shows up in the terminal when I typed ls, is called wmp64.tgz
[11:02] <ikonia> gluonman tar zxvf wmp64.tar.gz
[11:02] <gluonman> ikonia, I'll give that a try.
[11:02] <effeietsanders> hmm, seems still invalid, kbrooks
[11:02] <cua0> gluonman: once you tar zxvf wmp64.tgz it will create a directory.
[11:02] <warbler> gluonman: ikonia seems to be more experienced - I'm still learning
[11:03] <cua0> man, i haven't helped anyone yet tonight :(
[11:03] <gluonman> cua0, can you give me the specific syntax? I tried typing tar zxvf wmp64.tgz, but nothing worked. What comes before it?
[11:03] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, did yoou type what i said literally or did you replace it by what i told you to replace it with
[11:03] <naut> flixh, thanks, what package gives me smartctl
[11:03] <cua0> gluonman: nothing comes before it.
[11:03] <flixh> naut: smartmontools
[11:03] <gluonman> cua0, hm.
[11:03] <effeietsanders> kbroooks: i went to the directory of the rawwrite folder first
[11:03] <warbler> cua0: how long does   updatedb    take for you?
[11:03]  * gadiez byeeeeeeeeee,anjenkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[11:03] <ikonia> gluonman "tar zxvf wmp64.tgz" what output do you get
[11:04] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, dir
[11:04] <effeietsanders> \profiles\lgelauff\desktop\ubuntu
[11:04] <cua0> warbler: i'm scared to do it, it might index all my drives hah
[11:04] <naut> flixh, y
[11:04] <effeietsanders> then typed the command of the guide again
[11:04] <naut> flixh, ty I mean
[11:04] <ikonia> warbler doesn't matter how long it took for him, matters how long takes you
[11:04] <cua0> warbler: couple mins depending on size of drives and number of files though
[11:04] <jburd> Can one attach tags to file system objects?
[11:04] <effeietsanders> yes, dir returns the rawwrite file
[11:04] <gluonman> ikonia, actually, I closed and reopened the terminal and typed ls and then tried it again. It worked this time.
[11:04] <jburd> I don't like organizing files in directory trees.  I'd rather use tags instead.
[11:04] <herbalise> i have my root partition installed on lvm i would like to reduce the size of the root partition, is this possible?
[11:05] <kbrooks> jburd, that'd be interesting
[11:05] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: although as rawwri~1.exe
[11:05] <ikonia> herbalise it is VERY unwise to reduce file system sizes
[11:05] <warbler> hehhehhehikonia: he wanted to help someone - hehe
[11:05] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, type that exactly then
[11:05] <gluonman> ikonia, so you know what I need to do after that?
[11:05] <goodhabit> herbalise, how about backuping your root partition somwhere else, resize your prtition, then copy back?
[11:05] <earl_> hey guys does anyone know how i can get the package libsrvg?
[11:05] <ikonia> gluonman cd into the directory it has created
[11:06] <J-_> !find libsrvg
[11:06] <ikonia> earl_ that should be in the repo
[11:06] <gluonman> ikonia, syntax?
[11:06] <cua0> warbler: thanks for the ego stroke
[11:06] <ubotu> Package/file libsrvg does not exist in gutsy
[11:06] <ikonia> gluonman what are you trying to do ?
[11:06] <jburd> I think we'll need a file system that explicitly does tagging.
[11:06] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, btw u should scrap ME its too old
[11:06] <gluonman> ikonia, install the program.
[11:06] <cast> jburd: might be a GNOME VFS layer to do about that, could use hard or soft links to similar effect me thinks though - but that would be filthly
[11:06] <herbalise> all the same for me, i would like to add a windows install on my laptop running ubuntu
[11:06] <ikonia> gluonman what program ?
[11:06] <kbrooks> jburd, how would tags be implemented?
[11:06] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: still doesn't work :S
[11:06] <goodhabit> herbalise, It is best way i think. You can do it with tar, or cp -ax, but after that you will need change UUIDS of your partitions @ /etc/fstab , /boot/grub/menu.lst etc.
[11:06] <warbler> cua0: all the stroking you get for tonight - get in and help :p
[11:06] <effeietsanders> and why do you think i try to get ubuntu? :)
[11:06] <ikonia> herbalise that will potentially be a problem as you will have included the whole disk/partition in the volume group
[11:07] <gordonjcp> jburd: a filesystem that "does" tagging?
[11:07] <jburd> kbrooks: Just the way they are on Websites that have tag clouds.
[11:07] <gluonman> ikonia, windows media player 6.4. On the wine website it explained how to turn this downloaded file into a usable installation file. But it used directions that a seasoned command line user would understand.
[11:07] <jburd> gordonjcp: "can handle"
[11:07] <cua0> warbler: help with what, nobody's really asking anything heh
[11:07] <ikonia> goodhabit he won't - its an LV, not  a partition
[11:07] <exx_2000> HI all I just installed Ubuntu. The process went fine and recognized everything. I accidently installed it on hda instead of my SATA drive . SO I installed it again using the same DVD. The first install worked fine but now after installing to SATA my computer says to insert boot media... (Unfortunately I Didn't copy the whole message )
[11:07] <kbrooks> jburd, vague description.
[11:07] <gordonjcp> jburd: ext3 and extended attributes?
[11:07] <goodhabit> herbalise, there are no problem to install win.
[11:07] <ikonia> gluonman join #winehq people in there will walk you though it
[11:08] <goodhabit> So I newer tryed LVM's.
[11:08] <gordonjcp> gluonman: why do you need windows media player?
[11:08] <warbler> cua0: when I vnc into my xubuntu server I have to open everything twice - thunar for e.g.    why?
[11:08] <gluonman> ikonia, but now that I have my command line open and have created the new directory, I was just wondering if you knew what I need to type next.
[11:08] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: what i typed now in the correct folder is: rawrite -f sbm.bin (rawwri~1.exe sbm.bin)
[11:08] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, nope
[11:08] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: is there anything that might be wrong?
[11:08] <ikonia> gluonman join #winehq - the people in there will helpyou/ walk you through it
[11:08] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, remove the other linux command
[11:08] <gluonman> gordonjcp, haha everyone seems to be criticizing me for wanting wmp! It's okay. I just like it. Not much else to explain. Used to its features.
[11:08] <cua0> warbler: no idea.
[11:09] <gluonman> ikonia. Okay.
[11:09] <jburd> kbrooks: Say, I have some documentation on networking and it also pertains to linux.  I don't want to shove the file into one of those two directories.  I'd rather tag it as "linux, networking" and when i want to browse a particular tag I'd find that file in the results.
[11:09] <gluonman> ikonia, cua0, warbler, thank you for your help.
[11:09] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, just say rawwri~1.exe sbm.bin
[11:09] <ikonia> gluonman: welcome
[11:09] <warbler> cua0: noone else can answer that either - gave up asking
[11:09] <effeietsanders> ok
[11:09] <ikonia> warbler what is your question
[11:09] <pyrohotdo2> How do I share a media folder among users on a single machine?
[11:09] <warbler> gluonman: best of luck
[11:09] <gordonjcp> gluonman: not criticising, just curious
[11:09] <cua0> warbler: i haven't used vnc in a few months, are you using an ssh tunnel or something?
[11:10] <cast> jburd: put it in both directories? :)
[11:10] <ikonia> pyrohotdo2 create a folder - and give everyone permissions
[11:10] <gluonman> gordonjcp, understand. no worries.
[11:10] <jburd> cast: what would you do if you had 10 tags? :-)
[11:10] <cast> jburd: have a dir per tag, it can go in all 10
[11:10] <warbler> ikonia: I vnc into a xubuntu server and have to open everything twice - thunar fo e.g
[11:10] <jburd> hehe redundancy
[11:10] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: that is doing something :)
[11:10] <ikonia> 11:17 < warbler> ikonia: I vnc into a xubuntu server and have to open
[11:10] <ikonia> oops
[11:10] <jburd> i don't want duplication. :-)
[11:11] <pyrohotdo2> I already have the folder, and it's owned by my user. How do I add the other users' permissions?
[11:11] <ikonia> warbler what happens when you open everything once ?
[11:11] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, looks like the guide needs a clarification
[11:11] <cast> jburd: as you'd use hardlinks there's only 1 copy of the file, just 10 references to it in a the file system table
[11:11] <gluonman> ikonia, wow. That was simpler than I thought.
[11:11] <kbrooks> effeietsanders, btw u should scrap ME its too old
[11:11] <ikonia> pyrohotdo2 either make it world read/writeable or add the users to the owner group
[11:11] <gluonman> ikonia, it's all installed now.
[11:11] <jburd> cast: I see
[11:11] <warbler> ikonia: they open and then close straight away
[11:11] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: it certainly does :)
[11:11] <ikonia> warbler I've never seen that ehaiour before
[11:11] <warbler> ikonia: on second opening they stay open
[11:11] <ikonia> behaviour
[11:12] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: note that the cmd in >run> did not even work here, i had to use command
[11:12] <cua0> warbler: are you running it through an ssh tunnel
[11:12] <jburd> nevermind.  i'd rather use gds.
[11:12] <warbler> ikonia: desktop icons do the same
[11:12] <effeietsanders> maybe that could be clearified too
[11:12] <warbler> cua0: nope
[11:12] <kbrooks> jburd, gds?
[11:12] <jburd> google desktop search
[11:12] <cua0> warbler: i don't know then
[11:13] <gluonman> ikonia, hey, what's the command that you use to bring up your most recent action in the terminal?
[11:13] <cua0> gluonman: the up arrow?
[11:13] <ikonia> gluonman the up arrow
[11:13] <effeietsanders> ok, i'll go try if it works now, thanks a lot, kbrooks!
[11:13] <gluonman> ikonia, I mean if I close the terminal.
[11:13] <cua0> gluonman: cat .bashrc_history ?
[11:14] <ikonia> gluonman history or fc -l
[11:14] <gluonman> cua0, ikonia, thanks.
[11:14] <warbler> cua0: don't feel bad - no one in two months of asking has known - at least you and ikonia showed an interest
[11:14] <cua0> gluonman: .bash_history not .bashrc_history
[11:14] <gluonman> cua0, okay.
[11:15] <kbrooks> jburd, i thougght u meant good (old) directory setup, lol
[11:15] <jburd> lol
[11:15] <cua0> warbler: are you vncing from another linux box? why not just connect to the xserver rather than vncing?
[11:15] <blaze_> yshoo meseengger
[11:16] <gordonjcp> gluonman: is there anything to recommend Windows Media Player?
[11:16] <kbrooks> !elaborate | blaze_
[11:16] <ubotu> blaze_: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:16] <warbler> cua0: from ubuntu to xubuntu server - how do I connect straight to the xserver?
[11:17] <cua0> warbler: now that, you'd have to ask an X expert, i have no idea.
[11:17] <jburd> I don't know why but tracker doesn't seem to work right on any of my machines running Gutsy.  The results are very poor.
[11:17] <cua0> warbler: i know it's possible, and i've read blurblets over the past 10 years on it, but to be perfectly honest i was never much of an X person until recently
[11:18] <gluonman> gordonjcp, I don't know. For me it's really more a matter of personal preference. I like the way wmp organizes my media and I have been having difficulty finding a media player in ubuntu that has a real rewind function (other than just a jump back function). Also, when I've tried to open several media files at once with other players, it will open several windows and play them simultaneously. In wmp, they will open as a playlist.
[11:18] <warbler> cua0: google and I will be friendly for a while then :P\
[11:19] <lm7805> warbler: log in via ssh -X user@host to the remote host and then run X apps by their name
[11:19] <cua0> gluonman: you do realise that running windows apps via wine is going to be detrimental to performance right?
[11:19] <SasukeStorm> Omg
[11:19] <SasukeStorm> It's not a french Irc ?
[11:19] <lm7805> !fr | SasukeStorm
[11:19] <ubotu> SasukeStorm: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <gluonman> cua0, in what way? Not that I'm running a large number of windows programs. Just a couple.
[11:20] <SasukeStorm> OK thank's
[11:20] <exx_2000> I have 2 drives one a IDE and one a SATA the IDE. After installing to the IDE one I reinstalled to the SATA drive but now when I boot up I get the error "Boot Failure
[11:20] <exx_2000> Reboot and Select proper Boot device
[11:20] <exx_2000> or INsert Boot Media in selected Boot device
[11:20] <exx_2000> Press any key when ready
[11:20] <cua0> gluonman: think of it as the application having to pass through an extra 'layer' of software before getting to the hardware.
[11:21] <SasukeStorm> How do i change channel?
[11:21] <warbler> lm7805: when I first started out I tried ssh but was on a learning curve - it might be time to revisit it
[11:21] <lm7805> SasukeStorm: /join #channelname
[11:21] <exx_2000> Can I run grub-install to solve the problem?
[11:21] <SasukeStorm> 'K thx
[11:21] <gluonman> cua0, right. My understanding is that the windows program itself may not perform as well as it would in a windows os. But it seems like you were saying it will be detrimental to the performance of linux ubuntu?
[11:21] <achadwick> exx_2000: you can sometimes get round that by disabling the PATA drive in the BIOS and having the OS auto-sense the drive
[11:21] <lm7805> lm7805: of course openssh-server must be installed on the remote host
[11:21] <cua0> warbler: to my knowledge there should be a visual X client that you can use as well as ssh -X
[11:22] <exx_2000> Did that achadwick, didn't work :(
[11:22] <gerro> I have this huge 1gb file with a random name and no clue what it is, how can I find out? I don't want to open the entire thing in a hex editor maybe just the header
[11:22] <cua0> gluonman: no, just to the app
[11:22] <mohkohn> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11605
[11:22] <achadwick> Ah. In which case, remove the PATA drive and get the SATA one booting with some sort of boot-cd and grub-install
[11:22] <warbler> cua0: from my reading that was vnc - might just need a reinstall or something
[11:22] <cast> gerro: file randomname
[11:22] <exx_2000> I dont know what the disk would be called . WOuld it be sda ?
[11:22] <J-_> Is i2c-i801 built into the kernel?
[11:22] <mohkohn> the above is a tale of woe. I cannot get my laptop to powerdown properly
[11:22] <gerro> cast: thanks forgot about that
[11:23] <gluonman> cua0, right. I was aware of that. But World of Warcraft has been running decently, which is my other windows program.
[11:23] <bullgard4> Does Ubuntu install executable Bluetooth programs and daemons even though there are no bluetooth devices?
[11:23] <cast> gerro: you don't have to open the whole thing anyway, you can just look at the first few hundred bytes with head
[11:23] <cua0> gluonman: fair enough. just figured i'd let you know :)
[11:23] <achadwick> sda, typically. grub should probably see it as hd #1 (forget its naming conventions: brackets, commas?)
[11:23] <cua0> bullgard4: it seems to
[11:23] <mohkohn> It tells me that system is running on AC no battery present
[11:24] <gluonman> cua0, I read up on wine and windows programs compatibility thoroughly before attempting to introduce something to my computer that I wasn't sure of.
[11:24] <cua0> gluonman: good call :)
[11:24] <gluonman> cua0, but I do appreciate your comments.
[11:24] <cua0> i do what i can
[11:24] <exx_2000> Thanks will try that out . As a final option will reformat both drives and remove one and just reinstall
[11:24] <gordonjcp> gluonman: speak to the developers of the media players you're trying
[11:25] <gordonjcp> gluonman: you can do that, you know ;-)
[11:25] <gluonman> gordonjcp, never crossed my mind, really, but okay.
[11:25] <cua0> lol
[11:26] <achadwick> exx_2000: you could also boot a livecd, and rummage around in /dev to see what was detected.
[11:26] <cua0> woah, awkward silence
[11:26] <exx_2000> achadwick, Will the drives be listed in there? Sigh, I was looking in mnt :/
[11:26] <sandgrain> how can i kill an aplication that is not responding?
[11:27] <Bokeh> check the process id with ps
[11:27] <Bokeh> then use the command "kill processid"
[11:27] <lm7805> sandgrain: or use xkill if it still has a window
[11:28] <sandgrain> thanx. what is ps though? :P
[11:28] <Bokeh> it's a command to see running processes on your machine
[11:29] <twisties> Just installed a Creative Audigy soundcard in my Feisty box. The only sound I get is static
[11:29] <Bokeh> open a terminal, then type ps aux and watch the output
[11:29] <twisties> anyone have any clues?
[11:29] <cua0> twisties: did you install the emu10k1 drivers?
[11:29] <lm7805> sandgrain: ps reports running processes. ps -x reports all your processes, ps -aux reports all processes in the system
[11:29] <twisties> I haven't installed any extra drivers
[11:29] <twisties> my other bgox worked fine the way it was
[11:30] <achadwick> exx_2000: should be. That's where device nodes go when stuff gets auto-detected. If you haven't an hdX or an sdX corresponding to your drives, they're not being detected by the OS.
[11:30] <cua0> twisties: well did you install the card with the os on the other box?
[11:30] <mohkohn> what do I need to 'apt-get install' to make xconfig work?
[11:31] <sandgrain> Bokeh, Im7805: thanx :)
[11:31] <exx_2000> Thank you will check that out :)
[11:31] <twisties> other box is running fiesty too. I chucked the card in and once I selected the right device out of the VLC or Totem or XMMS lists the sound was fine
[11:31] <twisties> on this one I select the correct device and I get static
[11:31] <cua0> twisties: reinstall the drivers
[11:31] <ikonia> 11:37 < mohkohn> what do I need to 'apt-get install' to make xconfig work?
[11:31] <twisties> alsa?
[11:31] <ikonia> oops
[11:32] <ikonia> mohkohn why do you want xconfig ?
[11:32] <ikonia> mohkohn thats an old tool
[11:32] <cua0> twisties: i'd do the emu10k drivers myself, or whatever creative has on their linux repository for your card
[11:32] <warbler> !sound | twisties
[11:32] <ubotu> twisties: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:32] <mohkohn> what do you use? ikonia
[11:32] <ikonia> mohkohn use for what ?
[11:32] <mohkohn> kernel compiling
[11:33] <cua0> gcc usually isn't it?
[11:33] <ikonia> mohkohn 1.) why do you want to copile your own kernel 2.) I use the curses driven menu
[11:33] <cua0> it's been so long since i compiled a kernel hah
[11:33] <mohkohn> to select modules. I always miss something with menuconfig
[11:33] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. tried to install avant-window-navigator and aptitude says there's no candidate to install? is there something wrong with the package?
[11:33] <ikonia> mohkohn why ar eyou building your own kernel though ?
[11:33] <NET||abuse> aptitude search avant shows an entry for avant with a "c" flag infront of it,, what does that mean?
[11:34] <cua0> NET||abuse: sounds like it's not available from your repositories
[11:34] <ikonia> NET||abuse: candidate ?
[11:34] <twisties> cua0, creative site always told me ALSA supported my card
[11:34] <twisties> so I've never installed any others
[11:34] <gordonjcp> the n00bs say "how do I compile a kernel?", the l33t say "hey I compiled my own kernel", and the truly wise say "Ah, I remember when I used to compile my own kernels..."
[11:34] <BlueSkyNIS> I have accidentally deleted a movie while was playing on other desktop, and it doesn't stopped... how can Totem play something that is deleted?
[11:34] <arnath> can anyone suggest a good uml2 tool for ubuntu?
[11:34] <NET||abuse> ikonia, ahh, the "c" means it was removed from my system but some files may remain
[11:34] <ikonia> gordonjcp the people who know what they are on about - don't say anything and just get on with it
[11:34] <cua0> twisties: well, i dunno, i don't have a creative card, last time i had a creative card i had to mess with emu10k stuff
[11:35] <twisties> well i jsut isntalled that
[11:35] <twisties> brb
[11:35] <ikonia> BlueSkyNIS buffered in memory
[11:35] <mohkohn> I have this.except all known AR5007UG devices are based on UW2453 radio which won't be supported until Linux 2.6.23
[11:35] <lm7805> BlueSkyNIS: as long as totem has a file handle to that file, it's not deleted. once totem closes that handle, the file is gone
[11:35] <mohkohn> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw
[11:35] <lm7805> ikonia: wrong
[11:35] <BlueSkyNIS> smart :)
[11:35] <ikonia> lm7805 ?
[11:35] <lm7805> ikonia: the file is not entirely buffered in memory
[11:36] <Odd-rationale> When I boot into recovery mode mode, how do I get out of the command line? Alt+f7 does not work.
[11:36] <ikonia> lm7805 I didn't say the whole file was
[11:36] <void^> ikonia: a file with open handles will be unlinked when deleted, but only actually freed as soon as all handles are closed.
[11:36] <twisties> cua0, nup, didn't change anything.
[11:37] <mohkohn> I think I found it
[11:37] <ikonia> void^: yes, the deletion doesn't actually remove the file, just the pointers
[11:37] <BlueSkyNIS> it was a big 700mb file
[11:37] <cua0> twisties: uhmmmmmmm i dunno, i got nothing. sorry :/
[11:37] <ikonia> mohkohn I see what your saying, you'll need .23 to use that device.
[11:37] <twisties> no worries thanks anyway dude
[11:37] <lm7805> ikonia: the deletion resolves after the last file handle is closed
[11:38] <cua0> someone made me paranoid, now it sounds like my hdd is freaking out constantly
[11:38] <kritzstapf> what happened to http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/?
[11:38] <cua0> but i know it's not.
[11:38] <whatzup> does anybody know if ubuntu uses the same package names as debian?
[11:38] <malocite> morning all
[11:38] <cua0> whatzup: for the most part, yes.
[11:38] <ilreds> hi
[11:38] <cua0> mornin
[11:38] <ilreds> anyone uses moin moin wiki? i'm not able to become superuser
[11:38] <malocite> does anyone here know the name of a program I can use to track my monthly bandwidth?
[11:38] <ikonia> lm7805 doesn't the file actually "dissapear" from the list though due to the pointers being removed even though the file still exists and is actually in use
[11:39] <malocite> I wanna make sure I am not one of those 'abusive' users :)
[11:39] <Odd-rationale> When I boot into recovery mode, how do I start x?
[11:39] <cua0> malocite: sorry i don't. but... why?
[11:39] <cua0> Odd-rationale: startx
[11:39] <Odd-rationale> cua0: Thanks!
[11:40] <cua0> Odd-rationale: np, hope it works. sometimes X works too
[11:40] <lm7805> ikonia: the directory entry will disappear instantly
[11:40] <ikonia> lm7805 ok, yes, thats what I was syaing. Thank you
[11:40] <cua0> omg it was the furnace!
[11:40] <cua0> lol
[11:40] <malocite> ua0: I'm in Canada, where every isp now caps you :)  My ISP is one of a few lone hold outs and they;re trying to figure out what to cap at.  I want to kow what i use so I know what plan I need to pick
[11:40] <Odd-rationale> cua0: I'll try.
[11:40] <cua0> malocite: what isp?
[11:40] <malocite> Teksavvy
[11:40] <cua0> malocite: where?
[11:41] <malocite> cua0: Where?
[11:41] <malocite> cua0: Hamilton
[11:41] <cua0> malocite: yea, where? out east or something?
[11:41] <cua0> ah
[11:41] <cua0> malocite: i know shaw is very liberal with their caps in my area
[11:41] <malocite> ahhh the west
[11:41] <cua0> malocite: mines 'capped' at 100gb/mo but that's more of a rough guideline
[11:42] <malocite> cua0: Teksavvy offers unlimited, but may have to start capping, or offering a more expensive unlimited because Bell Canada is skrewing them over (Bell owns the lines between the houses and the COs
[11:42] <ikonia> !offtopic >malocite
[11:43] <mohkohn> ikonia, I have been getting better at it. At first my kernels would not boot. Then no network.
[11:43] <malocite> actually, not offtopic, so does anyone know a good program for monitoring bandwidth in Ubuntu
[11:43] <ikonia> malocite discussing ISP's was off topic
[11:43] <cua0> malocite: try googling 'linux bandwidth monitor'
[11:44] <malocite> I did
[11:44] <eNons3nse> if i used gparted to increase the size of my root directory and decrease the size of my windows directory will it mess things up?
[11:44] <eNons3nse> partitions rather
[11:44] <cua0> ikonia: there was a lul in the barrage of questions ;p
[11:44] <malocite> lots of txt based tools, but nothing I could find that was either graphical, or kept a monthly tally
[11:44] <ikonia> eNons3nse resizsing a partition carrys a risk with it at any time
[11:45] <ikonia> malocite nagios and/or cactai
[11:45] <eNons3nse> i accidentally switched the 2 when i was setting up my dual boot and made my ubuntu partition super small
[11:45] <cua0> malocite: something on the user end might not exist. and i doubt you'll find one that's got a gui
[11:45] <cua0> orrrr what ikonia said.
[11:45] <malocite> ikonia: googlin' it now
[11:46] <eNons3nse> ikonia: well i know that resizing NTFS is safer than resizing ext3.  but it seems like it might not be as dangerous to increase my ext3 as it would to decrease it.  am I right?
[11:46] <ikonia> malocite nagios is a monitor software that you can use to "monitor" your network traffic, Cactai is "report" monitoring / generating tool
[11:46] <ikonia> eNons3nse there is a risk ressizing ANY partition or file system
[11:46] <eNons3nse> i just can't do much with a 6gb partition for my main system and a 30gb for windows which i hardly use.
[11:47] <malocite> ikonia: Nagios, looks like it might be a little big, I'll check out cactai
[11:47] <ikonia> malocite yes, nagios is a full suit
[11:47] <ikonia> suite
[11:47] <cua0> eNons3nse: well, if on the off chance it mucks it up, you aren't losing much since it sounds like its a fresh install on both fronts.
[11:47] <eNons3nse> cua0: yeah.  about a week.
[11:47] <warbler> eNons3nse: back up everything and give it a go - most have success
[11:47] <eNons3nse> thanks people
[11:47] <cua0> eNons3nse: you went a week before you noticed you had a 6gb partition?
[11:47] <ikonia> warbler thats not right to say "most have sucess" is very missleading
[11:48] <eNons3nse> cua0: that's about how long it took me to fill it up.
[11:48] <cua0> eNons3nse: hahaha oh, fair enough, lol
[11:48] <eNons3nse> ;)
[11:48] <warbler> ikonia: the backup part is the most relevant - the rest was for confidance to try
[11:48] <cua0> what were you going to do with a 6gb windows partition? play solitare?
[11:49] <eNons3nse> heh
[11:49] <ikonia> warbler don't make things up to build peoples confidence
[11:49] <eNons3nse> very little i hope.
[11:49] <Radio1> That was the boot sector.
[11:49] <warbler> ikonia: did you try it and it didn't work?
[11:49] <mohkohn> qconf: cannot connect to X server
[11:49] <ikonia> warbler I don't use that tool
[11:50] <ikonia> mohkohn xhos +
[11:50] <ikonia> mohkohn xhost+
[11:50] <ikonia> ughhh, "xhost + "
[11:50] <ikonia> mohkohn make sure the removte xserver is running
[11:50] <warbler> ikonia: then how can you say I made it up - the comment wasn't for you - mind your own business
[11:50] <mohkohn> ?
[11:50] <mohkohn> apt-get install xhost?
[11:51] <ikonia> warbler because "most peopel it works" for is not fact the ammouont of people who have problems with it is massive so teloing someone "most of the time it works" is VERY miss-leading
[11:51] <warbler> ikonia: learn to spell
[11:51] <cua0> now children
[11:51] <ikonia> warbler I'm typing with lag so my keys are lagging
[11:51] <cua0> quit bickering and help the newbs
[11:52] <ikonia> warbler you've admitted you have little experience so don't make random comments that miss-lead people
[11:52] <cua0> lol
[11:52] <warbler> ikonia: if the comment isn't for you keep out
[11:52]  * cua0 sighs
[11:52] <mohkohn> do you go xhost + then make xconfig?
[11:52] <warbler> ikonia: it is spelt mis-leading
[11:52] <ikonia> warbler this is a public channel and giving bad adviceor miss-leading advice is not a good thing
[11:52] <ikonia> warbler don't be a child and pull people on o spelling. I'm struggling with lag
[11:53] <primski> hi guys...im having problems booting Gutsy Live CD, says it tries to load 8139++ drivers says its incompatible, then tries loading 8139too and fails to BusyBox. What is this driver for? Mobo chipset? Is it incorrect driver for my mobo(dunno model, gigabyte smth), how can i include correct driver into the LiveCD ?
[11:53] <warbler> ikonia: you said you haven't done it so why get involved - you bored?
[11:53] <ikonia> warbler I HAVE done it - I said I don't use it, I got involved as you where giving out wrong/miss-leading advice
[11:53] <ikonia> primski what is the device that driver is for
[11:53] <cua0> primski: first thing to do would be to find the model of your mobo
[11:54] <Trist_an> hi all, when I do echo `expr 2 + 3` I get the answer 5, I'd like the result to be in the format 05, anyone knwo how to do this?
[11:54] <lm7805> primski: 8139 is a real tek ethernet card chipset
[11:54] <warbler> ikonia: most people have no probs with resizing there partitions
[11:54] <The-Compiler> Hi
[11:54] <primski> aha
[11:54] <ikonia> warbler thats not true using gparted
[11:54] <primski> lm7805, why won't it boot then? it should, only LAN card shouldt work then right?
[11:54] <twisties> cua0, I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:54] <twisties> :D:D:D:D
[11:54] <warbler> ikonia: spend more time on the chat channel then
[11:55] <cua0> twisties: bitchin, what was it?
[11:55] <primski> cua0, i will look onto the mobo, and see where that get me...
[11:55] <twisties> lol you're gonna laugh
[11:55] <ashfaq> How do i install lexmark z513 in gutsy please help!
[11:55] <nostyle> hi big ubuntu community :) Will i need to modify lilo when i reinstal windows (i have windows and ubuntu on load) ?
[11:55] <lm7805> primski: maybe the driver causes some crash. try disabling the LAN card in your bios temporarily.
[11:55] <twisties> I had the analog/digital output box checked and all i needed to do was uncheck it
[11:55] <cua0> twisties: bonus!
[11:55] <primski> lm7805.... good idea... wil try and report in a min or two
[11:55] <twisties> lawl. now Enjoying some 5channel musical goodness :D
[11:56] <dimonweb> hellow world!
[11:56] <ashfaq> I have connected the usb the printer is shown but does not act on the print command, did I miss anything?
[11:57] <dimonweb> restart system
[11:57] <ikonia> warbler: I think youi'll find I'm in this channel and active most days
[11:57] <dimonweb> ashfaq, restart system
[11:58]  * cua0 goes dormant in order to avoid printer questions
[11:58] <warbler> ikonia: couldn't care - you seem to value you opinion highly - congrats on that
[11:58] <ashfaq> Okay boss i will come back
[11:58] <ikonia> warbler I don't value my opinion, I don't appriciate you mis-leading people with bad advice
[11:58] <ikonia> warbler hence why I asked you to stop
[11:59] <nostyle> will i need to modify lilo when i reinstal windows (i am having ubuntu and win xp on boot) ?
[11:59] <mohkohn> Before you switch to a root user, run 'xhost +localhost',
[11:59] <FastZ> anybody know an alternative to smbfs?  I currently have a remote share mounted to my machine from a server on my network using smbfs as the filesystem type in /etc/fstab.  The share mounts fine, but all the files in the share, when accessed from this machine, show up as being labeled something like :x4a, :x4b, and so on and disappear when you click on them.
[11:59] <mohkohn> this isn't working
[11:59] <burwaco> hallo again
[12:00] <cua0> nostyle: you're probably using grub, and if you are reinstalling windows overtop of the existing windows then probably not.
[12:00] <primski> FastZ, what type of filesystem are you mounting ?
[12:00] <taggig> ok, i have the most stupid thing every to ask about; why does my tetris in ubuntu7.10 lag!?
[12:00] <warbler> ikonia: you win - this it not worth it  - you seem to think you have a monitors position - unsocial is how I take it but congratulate you on your ehics if not your approach
[12:00] <FastZ> it's ext3 on the server
[12:00] <FastZ> and smbfs is installed on the server
[12:00] <warbler> *ethics
[12:00] <primski> FastZ, you could try sshfs, works pretty good for me.
[12:00] <FastZ> and it's worked before upgrading to Gutsy
[12:01] <FastZ> ill try that.  is there any difference in how the fstab entry should be?
[12:01] <lm7805> primski: i was about suggesting sshfs too :)
[12:01] <primski> FastZ, yea...its a little different, dont remember atm, try searching on ubuntuforums
[12:02] <lm7805> FastZ: i don't know if sshfs can be mounted via fstab, cause it doesn't use the mount command
[12:02] <malocite> how do I see what percentage of cpu a program is using
[12:02] <primski> lm7805, heh, nice :), btw, disabling LAN card in bios doesnt help :S will check mobo model now
[12:02] <J-_> How hard is it enable a low latency kernel? And if I get one to work, can I do everything on a low latency kernel that I could with a regular ubuntu kernel?
[12:02] <FastZ> ah
[12:02] <FastZ> ill do some research then lm7805
[12:02] <FastZ> appreciate the help
[12:02] <ikonia> lm7805 I don't think it can as its usersapce - a one user connection
[12:02] <FastZ> may i ask a question?  how do you mount your sshfs mounts?
[12:03] <nostyle> I have kubuntu 6.06 LTS 64bit, could i install this and then update to 7.10 and if i could how big is update (in mb) ?
[12:03] <ikonia> FastZ you have to do it on a user by user basis as its not actually a real mount
[12:04] <ikonia> nostyle its best to upgrade an LTS release to another LTS release not the non-lts builds, although it is ipossible
[12:04] <malocite> how do I see what percentage of cpu a program is using
[12:04] <ikonia> malocite top ?
[12:04] <Faust-C> lol
[12:04] <lm7805> malocite: run top
[12:04] <ikonia> malocite ps -aux ?
[12:04] <flithm> hey everyone... I just installed the kubuntu-desktop package and am now in KDE, however I don't get any nice 3d effects from compiz.  Anyone know how to enable in kde?
[12:04] <malocite> ahh
[12:04] <malocite> perfect
[12:04] <ikonia> flithm compiz doesn't work with kde from what I've read
[12:04] <flithm> ikonia: of course it does
[12:05] <ikonia> flithm really, I thought most of the effects where broke
[12:05] <ikonia> flithm something to do with the way it interacted with QT
[12:05] <Faust-C> ikonia: what ? thats so not true
[12:05] <flithm> ikonia: yeah that's nothing short of pure BS
[12:05] <Faust-C> the rendering engine doesnt make the effects not work
[12:05] <starsong> So Why should i use ubuntu
[12:05] <cua0> lol
[12:06] <cua0> starsong: if you have to ask, you shouldn't
[12:06] <ikonia> flithm no problem, as I said, I've only read it
[12:06] <flithm> ikonia: I am switching from Gentoo here and I used compiz-fusion w/ kde with no problems at all
[12:06] <Faust-C> starsong: lol weak
[12:06] <Faust-C> flithm: so your coming from gentoo and dont know how to make something work
[12:06] <ikonia> flithm I'm just reading it now
[12:06] <starsong> is linux better than windows ?
[12:06] <cua0> starsong: no
[12:06] <Faust-C> flithm: have you tried the wiki or forums
[12:06] <flithm> Faust-C: well I could hack it manually but I'm trying to do things the "ubuntu" way :)
[12:06] <malocite> starsong: bigger stronger and faster
[12:06] <primski> ok, the mobo model is GigaByte GA-7VAX1394, and quick google search reveals no problems installing gutsy... will check the chipset and see where that gets me
[12:06] <Faust-C> flithm: no such thing
[12:06] <effeietsanders> kbrooks: wtf, it just works!
[12:06] <Faust-C> wish ppl wouldnt say that
[12:07] <dgjones> !best | starsong it depends on what you need and what you'll be using it for
[12:07] <ubotu> starsong it depends on what you need and what you'll be using it for: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:07] <cua0> malocite: bigger? i don't know, i think windows reigns king on 'big' //bloatware
[12:07] <flithm> Faust-C: there is actually... i
[12:07] <malocite> cua0: Touche
[12:07] <starsong> do i look smart when i say wtf lol rofl omg omfg ?
[12:07] <flithm> Faust-C: almost everything is ubuntu is done differently than other distros
[12:07] <starsong> That makes you look smart doesnt it ?
[12:07] <ikonia> starsong please mind the language
[12:07] <flithm> Faust-C: not that that's a bad thing, but there definitely is an ubuntu way... to say otherwise is silly!
[12:07] <Faust-C> flithm: ... i dont likes it very much, thats the problem w/ linux no one way to do anything
[12:07] <starsong> ill stick with my windows xp  i luv it sooo much
[12:07]  * effeietsanders now probably has to find better drivers for his hardware...
[12:07] <ikonia> starsong thats great, enjoy
[12:08] <malocite> starsong: Kind of :)  I switched to Ubuntu in July, there have been challenges, but Gutsy is really nice, and the fact that Microsoft doesn't load software on my machine at its whim is nice.
[12:08] <nostyle> will there be any problems intaling ubuntu on laptop with sata native mod ?
[12:08] <starsong> why do people think that microsoft is sooo bad whats soo bad about it, youre all fake, you all surely have another partition with windows installed aside
[12:08] <dgjones> !offtopic | starsong
[12:08] <ubotu> starsong: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:08] <gordonjcp> starsong: why do you think that?
[12:09] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, anyone know a good pdf to jpeg converter for ~buntu
[12:09] <johnuah> is there any software could map my keyboard?
[12:09] <cua0> nostyle: works on my laptop no problems.
[12:09] <Faust-C> zgmf-x20a: wtf ? no such thing maybe
[12:09] <zgmf-x20a> Faust-C: really!?  dang... need it to convert for my psp
[12:09] <Faust-C> zgmf-x20a: and for linux not ubuntu
[12:09] <Faust-C> zgmf-x20a: lOL omfg dude google
[12:09] <Radio1> I threw my xp in the garbage.
[12:09] <zgmf-x20a> i did....
[12:09] <dgjones> !lol | Faust-C
[12:09] <starsong> omfg lol dude im i smart now ?
[12:09] <ubotu> Faust-C: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:10] <Faust-C> dgjones: man yall are quick w/ the bot
[12:10] <cua0> zgmf-x20a: you can extract pdf's to bitmaps and compress the bitmap to a jpg easily enough though
[12:10] <zgmf-x20a> i dont want to use one based outta windows
[12:10] <johnuah> could any body reply me？
[12:10] <malocite> starsong: I do for my video editing, but I'm not here to convince anyone.  Microsoft was just caught installing microsoft search on to everyones computer that uses xp, installed even if a user had auto updates OFF, Windows vista sends personal information to 65 different destinations including the National Security Agency, Ministry of Defence (in the UK) and the CIA and more, read up on it, thats wy I dumped xp
[12:10] <zgmf-x20a> cua0: which app can i use for that?
[12:10] <gordonjcp> zgmf-x20a: "convert"
[12:10] <malocite> starsong: Oh, a troll, didn't see that one coming
[12:10] <starsong> malocite: so? they have the right to
[12:10] <malocite> !offtopic >starsong
[12:11] <zgmf-x20a> gordonjcp: that the name of the app?
[12:11] <lm7805> starsong: stop trolling
[12:11] <Faust-C> starsong: your getting banned lol
[12:11] <malocite> starsong: No, they don't its my computer, my personal information
[12:11] <johnuah> I want a keyboard map
[12:11] <gordonjcp> zgmf-x20a: yeah, possibly in the package "imagemagick"
[12:11] <starsong> malocite: their operating system
[12:11] <gordonjcp> starsong: actually, no they don't
[12:11] <Radio1> Starsong: Grow up.
[12:11] <starsong> youre all meanies
[12:11] <Faust-C> oh my starsong youve teed em off now
[12:11] <malocite> how do we ban a user?
[12:12] <starsong> Faust-C: they have to figure out first
[12:12] <mohkohn> Where should I put zd1211-firmware-1.4.tar.bz2?
[12:12] <Faust-C> malocite: 'we' you act like your a op
[12:12] <cua0> johnuah: you can re-map your keyboard easily enough using ummm.. one second lemme find it
[12:12] <gordonjcp> starsong: in the UK, Microsoft's idea of sending back user data to random three-letter-agencies is illegal under the Misuse of Computers Act
[12:12] <malocite> Faust-C: No, if I was an op I would just do it :)
[12:12] <johnuah> cua0 ： thank you
[12:12] <Sonderblade> is there an ubuntu package for jboss?
[12:12] <johnuah>  waiting for you
[12:12] <Pici> !windows | starsong, please take it off-channel
[12:12] <ubotu> starsong, please take it off-channel: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:12] <Faust-C> malocite: how long have you used linux may i ask
[12:12] <burwaco> is there anyone that knows anything about runlevels ? I have installed  sysv-rc-conf and found my flashplugin running at level S, is this normal ?
[12:12] <cua0> johnuah: : System > Preferences > Keyboard
[12:12] <Faust-C> !help
[12:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:12] <malocite> faust-c: since July
[12:12] <starsong> ubuntu is a word for ?
[12:12] <lm7805> mohkohn: in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/zd1211/
[12:12] <Faust-C> malocite: lol and you dare try to ban someone lol
[12:13] <starsong> African word for child molesters ?
[12:13] <Faust-C> !help bo
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help bo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Faust-C> !help bot
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Faust-C> hmm
[12:13] <malocite> faust-c: Just a troll :)
[12:13] <lm7805> mohkohn: but you certainly have that firmware there
[12:13] <Radio1> Starsong is a microsoft plant.
[12:13] <Pici> !botabuse | Faust-C
[12:13] <starsong> Radio1: yeah yeah
[12:13] <ubotu> Faust-C: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:13] <starsong> Radio1: at least im not a dirty communist
[12:13] <Zombie> Are you folks familiar with the hard disk spin down and spin up issue dealing with the Hard Disk Spin down and spin up issue?
[12:13] <Pici> starsong: stop.
[12:13] <starsong> communists all over the place
[12:13] <cua0> johnuah: under Layouts you can choose a different map
[12:13] <Faust-C> malocite: no i just come in here for a lil laugh and see how the 'new' linux users are doing
[12:13] <Radio1> Bill gates helped noone...enjoy.
[12:13] <Zombie> On Dell Preloads?
[12:14] <Faust-C> malocite: cause the 'problems' you guys have is funny
[12:14] <mohkohn> In this case it will be for the 2.6.23 kernel so I should wait until after I compile?
[12:14] <malocite> faust-c: If you want a good laugh you should see me try and get nfs working :)
[12:14] <Odd-rationale> When I boot into recovery mode, how do I log in as a normal user?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> zgmf-x20a: you should just be able to do something like "convert this.pdf this.jpg" and get a bunch of numbered images out
[12:14] <Pierre> Odd-rationale: init 3
[12:14] <Faust-C> malocite: nfs why not just read the docs and get it working ?
[12:14] <Faust-C> thats what ive done since day 6
[12:15] <Odd-rationale> Pierre: Thanks! Is that what I type in?
[12:15] <Pierre> Odd-rationale: yes
[12:15] <malocite> faust-c: I did, read the nfs howto, had some trouble, came in for some help
[12:15] <Odd-rationale> Got it!
[12:15] <lm7805> mohkohn: do you have feisty or gutsy?
[12:15] <Faust-C> malocite: oic
[12:15] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Does anyone know of a driver for the Logitech Quickcam for Notebooks Pro? (Running Gutsy)
[12:15] <Faust-C> well then srry but idk ubuntu
[12:15] <Faust-C> sad that linux doesnt have some uniformity
[12:15] <Muppen> during the installation of 7.10 x64bit (live cd) my screen goes blank.. im using 2x nvidia 8800GTX cards.. any idea what might be wrong ?
[12:16] <malocite> Two trolls?
[12:16]  * cua0 shrugs
[12:16] <Mountaingod> Can I use gparted to reassign the 'tags' of logical partitions? I want hda1 to be renamed hda3
[12:16] <b0ha> hello, how can i make menu like mac osx ?
[12:16] <mohkohn> Oops. I thought I was on #debian It is Etch :)
[12:16] <b0ha> is there a application for that ?
[12:16] <mohkohn> But thanks for the assistance
[12:17] <cua0> b0ha: yes, there are themes and applications for that, you'll have to google which ones, but try 'osx theme'
[12:17] <dburnett77> Theme manager, b0ha, has XP, Vista, as well as most of OSX looks.
[12:17] <lm7805> mohkohn: btw, monitor mode is broken in zd1211rw in 2.6.22 and 2.6.23
[12:17] <b0ha> thank you guys
[12:17] <malocite> dburnett77: ooo... I gotta go try that :)
[12:17] <mohkohn> I am mainly on Etch because I am in Cambodia and it takes forever to download. I have Debian DVD's
[12:17] <warbler> b0ha: I've seen some at gnome-look
[12:17] <anas> hi all, is there some good guide for using amanda (bakcup system) with the client being ubuntu?
[12:17] <mohkohn> lm7805, what's monitor mode?
[12:17] <lm7805> mohkohn: but if you plan to use your zd1211 stick as a normal wlan client, it doesnt matter
[12:18] <hacker_14> blue - eyes
[12:18] <lm7805> mohkohn: monitor mode is sniffing all wlan packets
[12:18] <hacker_14> hello
[12:18] <cua0> ooh
[12:18] <mohkohn> lm7805, It is built into the laptop
[12:18] <cua0> it's halloween today!
[12:18] <hacker_14> hey
[12:18] <hacker_14> cao na site
[12:18] <hacker_14>  A?
[12:18] <rpj8> hey guys. is there anyway to force 100baseTx-Full Duplex ? the command "sudo mii-tool [interface name] --force=100baseTx-FD" doesn't work
[12:18] <cua0> hacker_14: #ubuntu-es
[12:18] <mohkohn> cua0 ho ho ho merry halloween
[12:18] <dburnett77> Bobbing<for App_les???
[12:18] <lm7805> mohkohn: doesn't matter if it's built it or not
[12:19] <malocite> dburnett77: Here's a lame question... where is the theme manager? :)
[12:19] <anas> hi, how would I know the password of the default user "backup" in ubuntu?
[12:19] <cua0> malocite: probably not installed
[12:19] <mohkohn> ok. lm7805 Thanks for the info.
[12:19] <malocite> cua0: Its not part of standard gutsy install?
[12:19] <dburnett77> System...Desktop...Appearence, or some such, depending on your config.
[12:19] <imduffy> hey
[12:19] <LazyAngel> does anyone know about a tool to scan for wlan and which channels they use? (I need to switch channel on my wlan since there is too much interference)
[12:19] <cua0> malocite: i don't think so
[12:19] <chandu_> Hi
[12:19] <chandu_>  I have a machine, " Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo P5925(iQ35 vPro chipset)"
[12:19] <chandu_>  with 2.6.19 kernel
[12:20] <achadwick> anas: it doesn't have one (which isn't the same thing as it having a blank one)
[12:20] <Borzo> hello
[12:20] <rpj8> LazyAngel: "iwlist scanning"
[12:20] <mohkohn> Ubuntu is still using the 2.6.22 kernels?
[12:20] <cua0> malocite: i'm using emerald, and i had to install it seperately
[12:20] <chandu_> I am trying to download an image of about 550 MB , from my server , using wget
[12:20] <chandu_> Its taking more time to download
[12:20] <Borzo> Is there some issue with DHCP in gutsy?
[12:20] <malocite> cua0: Is emerald a theme manager or a theme?
[12:20] <LazyAngel> rpj8: thanks
[12:20] <chandu_> May I know what may be the problem
[12:20] <lm7805> mohkohn: gutsy has 2.6.22
[12:20] <chandu_> The same operation, takes very less time in other machines
[12:20] <cua0> malocite: manager.
[12:20] <rpj8> LazyAngel: Yep yep
[12:20] <imduffy> can anybody help me with a problem on ubuntu i have a dell 3010cn printer and i want to get it to work on ubuntu it can pick it up but then there is no drivers and it asks for a ppd or something
[12:20] <fluzzy> theme manager
[12:20] <anas> achadwick: so I have to create a new password for it?
[12:20] <chandu_> And it is detecting the hard drive a s/dev/hda
[12:20] <malocite> sudo apt-get install emerald ?
[12:20] <chandu_> But it is a SATA hard drive
[12:20] <chandu_> and in BIOS EMULATION settings options available are "AUTO" and "DISABLE", I have set it to AUTO
[12:21] <achadwick> anas: why do you want to use it? For what purpose?
[12:21] <chandu_> Please some one help me on this
[12:21] <cua0> malocite: i used synaptic but i'm sure that would work too
[12:21] <fluzzy> malocite: yes
[12:21] <general> beto_kiki
[12:21] <general> cao
[12:21] <anas> achadwick: I'm installing Amanda (backup system), and some steps must be done using this user
[12:22] <achadwick> anas: open a Terminal and type: sudo su - backup
[12:22] <jonasschnelli1> hi all... is there a chance to set the runlevel of ubunto7.10 ? i don't want to have gfx-login.. just for server use. thx
[12:22] <rpj8> imduffy: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Dell-3010CN
[12:22] <achadwick> When prompted, type your *own* password
[12:22] <imduffy> thanks
[12:22] <mohkohn> I am getting the no battery present thing in gnome. When I unplug it tells me I have a battery but not how much charge is in it
[12:22] <mohkohn> Is there a simple fix for that?
[12:22] <dburnett77> On kernel, change mode=chmod **7.  Works every time.
[12:23] <cua0> mohkohn: right click it and remove it from the panel ?
[12:23] <zax1> i want to play a dvd movie on ubuntu 704 , but i cant, do i need to download codec ? which ones?
[12:23] <imduffy> rpj8: does that mean the printer will not work is there any other way i tried install the windows dirvers via wine but it says printer spoller service not started
[12:24] <burwaco> is there anyone that knows anything about runlevels ? I have installed  sysv-rc-conf and found my flashplugin running at level S, is this normal ?
[12:24] <anas> achadwick: yes I know, it works, but I don't have permissions to edit files, some files need to be edited using this user but they're read only files
[12:24] <lm7805> mohkohn: i don't know the gnome part, but you can check /proc/acpi/battery/*/{info,state} if it has reasonable info
[12:24] <dburnett77> zax1, if it's an awhee, whoopsie.
[12:24] <mohkohn> cua0 I want it to work
[12:25] <zax1> dburnett77: huh ?
[12:25] <Mountaingod> I want to change the 'name' of a partition from 'hda1' to 'hda3'. How can I do this?
[12:25] <Pici> !dvd | zax1
[12:25] <ubotu> zax1: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:25] <achadwick> anas: I don't know which guide you're using, but you could edit the files as root instead, or chown them to the backup user.
[12:25] <johnuah> can anyone provide me a software of keyboard mapping? I don't want to use the default of ubuntu
[12:25] <mohkohn> acpi -V
[12:25] <mohkohn>      Thermal 1: ok, 64.0 degrees C
[12:25] <mohkohn>   AC Adapter 1: on-line
[12:25] <dburnett77> the codec of a DVD is typically mpeg flavors.  ffmpeg will load all necessary statements.
[12:25] <cua0> mohkohn: oh, you said you wanted a quick solution to fix it from saying that stuff, quickest solution i could think of was to remove it
[12:25] <mohkohn>  /proc/acpi/battery/*: No such file or directory
[12:26] <lm7805> mohkohn: thats the problem
[12:26] <johnuah> anyone?
[12:26] <achadwick> . o O flashplugin has an init script?
[12:26] <cua0> johnuah
[12:26] <anas> achadwick: OK thanks I'll do that, anyway do u know some good guide about this?
[12:26] <johnuah> cua0
[12:26] <mohkohn> lm7805, I would have to agree?
[12:26] <johnuah> what?
[12:26] <achadwick> anas: not really, never set it up for myself.
[12:26] <lm7805> mohkohn: your ACPI implementation in bios is f***ed up
[12:27] <anas> achadwick: OK, thanks anyway for ur help :)
[12:27] <lm7805> mohkohn: there are so many broken ACPI bioses out there
[12:27] <dburnett77> I stalemate mine, with a power on key press of 'p'.  It's a feature of Gigabyte MB's.
[12:27] <mohkohn> so I should switch to apm?
[12:27] <sandgrai1> is 7.10 better than 7.04 in any way? it seems more trouble than its worth -.-
[12:27] <warbler> burwaco: I have a firefox flash plugin but it doesn't show in sysv-rc
[12:27] <lm7805> mohkohn: maybe. how old is the machine?
[12:27] <mohkohn> This is brand new
[12:28] <lm7805> mohkohn: then apm won't be prsent
[12:28] <lm7805> mohkohn: and with broken ACPI there is not much you can do
[12:28] <lm7805> mohkohn: check if any files in /proc/acpi/ are there
[12:28] <Zombie> Are you folks familiar with the hard disk spin down and spin up issue dealing with the Hard Disk Spin down and spin up issue?
[12:28] <dburnett77> yeah, dbus
[12:29] <cua0> Zombie: you're the second person tonight to ask that
[12:29] <Cah> oi
[12:29] <Cah> helpppp
[12:29] <Cah> rs
[12:29] <mohkohn> yes inlcuding battery
[12:30] <cua0> !help > Cah
[12:30] <mohkohn> battery                 9636  0 module loaded
[12:30] <dburnett77> Someone's!!!
[12:30] <lm7805> mohkohn: no i mean files, not directories
[12:30] <fevel> Cah: #ubuntu-br
[12:30] <Cah> speak portugues
[12:30] <lm7805> !br | cah
[12:30] <ubotu> cah: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:31] <warbler> thunderbird refuses to start from desklet,menu or cli
[12:32] <cua0> here's a stupid question, why won't the backspace key bind to "Back" in firefox under gutsy? even using the keyconfig plugin.
[12:32] <mohkohn> No files in the directory battery
[12:32] <rpj8> How do I switch to full duplex? ethtool -s duplex full does nothing?
[12:32] <lm7805> mohkohn: and in other dirs in /proc/acpi/ ?
[12:33] <lightstar> warbler, does thunderbird give any error messages when you start it up in CLI?
[12:33] <cua0> rpj8: man ethtool
[12:33] <kbrosnan> cua0: backspace is a reserved key in gnome
[12:33] <mohkohn> laptop is a  Medion MIM 2310
[12:33] <rpj8> cua0: I read that, broha. Just said it does nothing
[12:33] <cua0> kbrosnan: only in gutsy? it worked fine in fiesty
[12:33] <warbler> lightstar: nope - the cursor drops a line then nothing else happens
[12:33] <lm7805> mohkohn: so cheap laptop. they often have broken ACPI
[12:33] <burwaco> at boot time I get a firestarter error, device eth1 not found, eth1 is my wireless lan, is it possible that eth1 isn't configured yet when firestarter tries to come up ?
[12:34] <rpj8> cua0: "sudo ethtool eth0" still shows Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Half
[12:34] <lightstar> warbler, try moving your .thunderbird file to another location and try launching it again
[12:34] <lightstar> warbler, just to see if its a problem with some config file
[12:34] <kbrosnan> cua0: something that Firefox fixed in the 2 release, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/21/fix-firefox-backspace-to-take-you-to-the-previous-page/
[12:34] <lm7805> mohkohn: and you are running debian etch on it or ubuntu?
[12:34] <Flynsarmy> How would i log onto domain.com port 99 using the ssh command?
[12:34] <Flynsarmy> ssh domain.com 99?
[12:34] <void^> ssh -P 99 ...
[12:34] <warbler> lightstar: it is in /usr/bin - I have a seperate /opt partition I'll try that
[12:35] <lightstar> Flynsarmy, ssh -p <port> domain.name
[12:35] <imduffy> is it posible to install a printer using windows drivers via wine
[12:35] <mohkohn> processor has CPU0 CPU1...In this case I am running Etch. I do have Ubuntu on my iMac but it is in storage.
[12:35] <void^> eh, -p. ssh/sshfs's conflicting options are driving me insane.
[12:35] <cua0> kbrosnan: thank you
[12:35] <malocite> cua0: Umm.... this may seem like a really dumb question... but, once you are in emerald.... how do you select one of the themes from the list??  They show up, but when I click on them nothing happens
[12:35] <mohkohn> I started chatting on here when I meant to be on #debian
[12:35] <lightstar> warbler, you store your .thunderbird file in another location?
[12:36] <mohkohn> but your guys are so helpful I kept going :)
[12:36] <lm7805> mohkohn: etch has kernel 2.6.18. that might be too old for workarounds to recent ACPI bioses
[12:36] <burwaco> cua0,  set browser.backspace_action in about:config to 0...
[12:36] <warbler> lightstar: just reading that now - it is in /home - sorry, didn't see the dot before
[12:36] <lightstar> warbler, :)
[12:36] <cua0> burwaco: got it :) that's been bugging me all day haha
[12:36] <lm7805> mohkohn: i'd go for a newer kernel
[12:37] <ericjhensal> question--I've installed the i386 version of 7.10, not paying attention that I had an i686 box (intel core 2, 1.86 G).  I've tweaked out my installation and don't want to start from scratch to install i686.  Is it worth it, or is there an easier way?
[12:37] <Mountaingo2> How would I go about setting grub up to allow booting from a new partition?
[12:37] <achadwick> mohkohn: Stick around until we start sitting around, holding hands and singing koombayah (sp?)
[12:37] <cua0> malocite: that's the same thing that happens to me. i select one, close the theme manager then open a terminal and type emerald --replace &
[12:37] <burwaco> cua0, drove menuts for a while...
[12:38] <lightstar> ericjhensal, unless i'm mistaken there is no i686 version..there's just the i386 (which supports i686) and the 64bit version
[12:38] <mush> hello everyone. would this be the right place to ask about apps; should I ask somewhere else?
[12:38] <cua0> malocite: however, you should be able to add that commandline to your theme commandline in the Advanced Desktop Effects compizconfig and have it work properly
[12:38] <malocite> oh
[12:38] <cua0> malocite: it doesn't work right for me, but i just accepted it and moved on in life with the workaround hah
[12:38] <Mountaingo2> I want to add a new option in the GRUB startup menu, to allow booting from a new partition I'm about to put on there. How would I do this?
[12:38] <malocite> cua0: i see :)
[12:38] <malocite> cua0: I think I will as well
[12:39] <chandu_> can any one answer my wuery
[12:39] <chandu_> query
[12:39] <achadwick> mush: you can ask, possibly somebody will know.
[12:39] <cua0> chandu_: yes, if you asked it all in one sentence..
[12:39] <cua0> Mountaingo2: yes you can, and it's in /etc somewhere, give me a second and i'll find it
[12:39] <chandu_> cua0, ok ,
[12:40] <Mountaingo2> thanks :)
[12:40] <delphine> hello. I have a "locale" problem. My system is in French. All my programs install fine in French with the fr locale. Except gimp, which installed in English and returns an error when I try to launch it in french
[12:40] <geoaxis> is there a way that i can get a live pen drive from a gusty ISO
[12:40] <delphine> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[12:40] <delphine>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[12:40] <mush> all right then. I've been search for an application that does the same thing as 'Mr QuestionMan'. It's an audio inspector. (http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=5) Unfortunately, it's only available for Windows.
[12:40] <revx> what internet messenger app that has a Webcam support?
[12:40] <toplok> how to set an application to automatically start when ubuntu starts ?
[12:40] <ericjhensal> the community page says  Intel processors that support EM64T: Intel Core 2 processors
[12:40] <WuPeak> hi there
[12:41] <lightstar> ericjhensal, you're looking for the 64 bit version then...
[12:41] <chandu_> cua0,  I have a "Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo P5925(iQ35 vPro chipset)"" machine with 2.6.19 kernel , where I am trying to download an image of aroung 550 MB from my server using wget. But its taking lot of time . Samething takes very less time in other machines. It is detecting hard drive as /dev/hda , but it is SATA disk and BIOS SATA EMULATION is set to AUTO
[12:41] <mush> I've looked on several sites already. So if anyone uses such an application, a recommendation would be nice.
[12:41] <cua0> Mountaingo2: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:41] <ericjhensal> lightstar--I can find the version, I just don't know if it is worth getting it...is it that much of a difference
[12:41] <chandu_> cua0, what may be the problem for slow download and detecting hard drive as /dev/hda .. I think SATA drive should get detect as /dev/sd , right
[12:41] <malocite> cua0: Does that mean you have to leave that window console open at all times?
[12:42] <Mountaingo2> cua0: thanks
[12:42] <cua0> malocite: no, pipe it to & and it should go away
[12:42] <lightstar> ericjhensal, last time i used it it seemed to be more responsive i.e. compiling, vm, etc (or it just could be me)
[12:42] <cua0> malocite: sorry i didn't add the | last time
[12:42] <ericjhensal> I don't want to take out my current install and lose all my tweaking for the 64 bit
[12:42] <lightstar> ericjhensal, however not all apps are 64 bit so u'll end up installing the 32bit libraries to get some of it 2 work i.e. flash, java
[12:42] <revx> what internet messenger app that has a Webcam support?
[12:43] <malocite> cua0: Sorry, I don't know what that means, type emerald --replace | ?
[12:43] <damike> hu
[12:43] <cua0> malocite: emerald --replace | &
[12:43] <damike> hi
[12:43] <robert_> xorg randomly does weird things to me
[12:43] <kroynos> damike: Hi
[12:43] <achadwick> delphine: strange. Try opening a terminal and typing "dpkg-reconfigure locales" (sans quotes). is fr_(something) re-generated when you do that?
[12:43] <Allistra> hello everyone....could someone tell me how do I see which wireless driver I am using and how can I change it?
[12:44] <malocite> cua0: It says unexpected token '&'
[12:44] <ericjhensal> I guess what i'd like to know if is there a way to move to 64 bit easily--i.e. not losing my other settings (email. etc)
[12:44] <lm7805> cua0:  "| &" makes no sense
[12:44] <cua0> lm7805: no?
[12:44] <WuPeak> i have connected to a smb://server/share/. in openoffice, if i would like to open a document on this share, i can select the connection on the left side. but if i would like to upload a file from this share over a uploadform in firefox, i can not select this connection. is there a possibility to get this connection every where?
[12:44] <lm7805> cua0: use either "| command"  or  "&"
[12:44] <cua0> lm7805: what am i thinking then?
[12:44] <damike> i damaged my MBR and try to start grub-install. my device is /dev/sda. grub says "/boot: not found or not a block device". i have mounted the device and there is /boot/grub :( what can i do?
[12:44] <cua0> lm7805: you could pipe it in to oblivion, i thought it was the & symbol
[12:44] <bSON> hi
[12:44] <lightstar> ericjhensal, if  /home is installed on a seperate partition, then yeah you can reinstall it n u wun loose anything..hwoever if ur changes are in /etc or somewhere else then it will be affected
[12:44] <chandu_> cua0,  I have a "Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo P5925(iQ35 vPro chipset)"" machine with 2.6.19 kernel , where I am trying to download an image of aroung 550 MB from my server using wget. But its taking lot of time . Samething takes very less time in other machines. It is detecting hard drive as /dev/hda , but it is SATA disk and BIOS SATA EMULATION is set to AUTO
[12:44] <cua0> lm7805: % maybe?
[12:45] <chandu_> Can one please help me on this
[12:45] <lm7805> cua0: the pipe symbol redirects output to another command, the & symbol is for running a command in the background
[12:45] <delphine> achadwick: yes, I did that. I got all the English with the form en_US.UTF-8... done, all the french with: en_US.UTF-8... done
[12:45] <BLAKSurf> hello
[12:45] <cua0> chandu_: so what i said first would have been right, without the pipe
[12:45] <cua0> er
[12:45] <delphine> achadwick: so I am not sure it's actuall "re-generated"
[12:45] <malocite> cua0: Right, that did it thanks!
[12:45] <cua0> lm7805: so what i said first was right ,without the pipe
[12:45] <bSON> ubuntu gutsy doesn't recognize a daylight time change in germany (one hour back). why is that, and how can i get ubuntu to recognize it?
[12:45] <rpj8> Still unable to switch to 100baseTx-FD. mii-diag gives: "SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported"
[12:45] <lm7805> cua0: & does not suppress any output though
[12:45] <lm7805> cua0: you want something like ">/dev/null 2>&1"
[12:45] <ericjhensal> lightstar, how can I tell if home is on a separate partition
[12:45] <burwaco> rc*.d is driving me nuts...
[12:45] <warbler> lightstar: the move didn't help
[12:46] <lm7805> cua0: but the 2>&1 part has nothing to do with the single &
[12:46] <delphine> bSON: mine (Kubuntu Gutsy) recognized the daylight changing time. And I am in Germany :-)
[12:46] <chandu_> cua0, "Wthout the pipe
[12:46] <cua0> lm7805: i don't think output supression was required in that instance
[12:46] <lightstar> ericjhensal, what does "df" say? is home listed there
[12:46] <chandu_> cua0, I didnt get you
[12:46] <lightstar> warbler, still quits without an error message?
[12:46] <cua0> chandu_: i know, i was talking to someone else, my bad
[12:46] <lm7805> cua0: then simply run the command with & appended
[12:46] <warbler> lightstar: still doesn't start
[12:46] <toplok> found it, never mind :)
[12:46] <bSON> delphine: strange... for me every time synch gets me back to summer time
[12:47] <cua0> lm7805: yes, i know, thats what i said first, and he said it did the same thing, i assumed i was wrong, but he hadn;t typed th &
[12:47] <lightstar> warbler, hmm...
[12:47] <chandu_> cua0, ok
[12:47] <lm7805> cua0: alright
[12:47] <cua0> lm7805: 7am my brain is not functioning 100%
[12:47] <ericjhensal> LS--no home to be seen on df
[12:48] <achadwick> delphine: check that language-pack-fr and language-pack-gnome-fr are installed too; guessing they are already.
[12:48] <lm7805> cua0: :)  1:48pm here
[12:48] <cua0> chandu_: i'm not sure how it could have been recognised as an ata drive, and if/why that would affect your speed on such a relatively small file.
[12:48] <warbler> lightstar: trying a reboot
[12:49] <chandu_> cua0, ok
[12:49] <general> betooooooo        boy
[12:49] <general> koj zboruva
[12:49] <cua0> chandu_: come to think of it my sata drive shows up as hda too, so that can't be the problem
[12:49] <mohkohn> my model is not there. Seems to be a bit dated going by the distros
[12:49] <chandu_> cua0, ok
[12:50] <delphine> achadwick: this did the trick. The language pack was installed, but not the gnome one. It seems Gimp relies on the gnome locale pack (I'm running Kubuntu)
[12:51] <joje> hi all
[12:51] <joje> anybody using 7.10?
[12:51] <croftd> hello
[12:51] <croftd> yes
[12:51] <burwaco> yups
[12:51] <IdleOne> joje: several thousand people are maybe even millions
[12:52] <croftd> hehe
[12:52] <joje> seems i got a prob at bootscreen and wireless card
[12:52] <achadwick> Aha. Been playing with the GNOME "Language support" preferences dialog: that seems to know about language packs, and asks if you want to install missing ones. Knows about KDE and OO.o too, which is helpful.
[12:52] <joje> can u help me?
[12:52] <ikonia> joje can you give use the problem in detail please
[12:52] <kslater> I have a strange login problem with Gutsy anyone care to take a shot at it?
[12:52] <croftd> shoot...
[12:52] <ikonia> kslater if you tell us the problem, perhaps we can help
[12:52] <kslater> ok
[12:53] <kslater> had a system with FF and ldap auth
[12:53] <delphine> achadwick: thanx!
[12:53] <ikonia> kslater FF ?
[12:53] <kslater> upgraded to GG and ran aground with a known bug (Fiest Fawn)
[12:53] <burwaco> firefox ? :)
[12:53] <joje> when I finished installing ubuntu 7.10 at the bootscreen , my monitor said "cannot display this in video mode"
[12:53] <joje> what is that?
[12:53] <lm7805> FF == feisty fawn i guess
[12:53] <kslater> right
[12:53] <burwaco> feisty and gutsy , ok...
[12:53] <ikonia> joje which boot screen ?
[12:53] <ikonia> lm7805 only just got that,
[12:53] <joje> at the first time I boot ubuntu
[12:54] <ikonia> joje which boot screen, the boot menu - or the login menu
[12:54] <joje> boot menu
[12:54] <kslater> removed the libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap packages and now I don't even get prompted for the password on users in /etc/passwd
[12:54] <ikonia> kslater so whats the actual problemn
[12:54] <ikonia> joje so the grub boot emnu ?
[12:54] <ikonia> menu
[12:54] <kslater> only thing I can do is recovery mode
[12:54] <joje> yes, and when I'm booting my ubuntu
[12:54] <mohkohn> I can't remember who said you would all start singing Kumbaya on #ubuntu...
[12:54] <ikonia> kslater check your nsswitch.conf
[12:55] <mohkohn> but look at this: http://www.earthmostlyharmless.net/category/linux/
[12:55] <kslater> right, I manually took nsswitch.conf back to the default
[12:55] <joje> is that my monitor prob or software?
[12:55] <kslater> used another 7.10 system as a reference
[12:55] <mohkohn> I can see myself in the "Which fanboy Are You?"
[12:56] <kallepersson> Damn, I really like the slab menu for GNOME!
[12:56] <kallepersson> It's so awesome, I'm able to do stuff real quick.
[12:56] <jens_> Hello, I have a machine ubuntu 7.10. This box has a lot of music/video's on it. I have a privat lan network at home; and I would like to share this music/video with f.ex. my sister, who is running microsoft windows. Is there a way I could stream the content to her pc?
[12:56] <kallepersson> Good that the openSUSE community created it so everyone could have it.
[12:56] <joje> jens_, use vlc MP
[12:57] <joje> share it
[12:57] <burwaco> mohkohn, :)
[12:57] <jens_> joje, using samba?
[12:57] <joje> yes
[12:57] <ikonia> kslater: sorry some distracted me, can you repeat your last message
[12:57] <kslater> sure
[12:57] <joje> share the music folder at microsoft windows. jens_
[12:58] <kslater> the only thing I can do now is the recovery console.
[12:58] <joje> and use smb://"microsoft windows IP"
[12:58] <ikonia> kslater ok - have you checked your nsswitch.conf for where your auth is pointed ?
[12:58] <eolhyte> Hello !
[12:58] <jens_> no, it's the other way around, my ubuntu pc has the content; I need to stream it to a windows box
[12:58] <kslater> ikonia: it's set to compat for passwd, shadow and group
[12:58] <eolhyte> I have a little big problem on my left panel: it breaks when I have more than 5 applications
[12:59] <eeleven> t.net
[12:59] <mohkohn> burwaco, while I have your attentions "sudo make me dinner"
[12:59] <eolhyte> I've gnome
[12:59] <ikonia> kslater ahh right, have you tried forcing it to just files
[12:59] <kslater> not sure that I have
[12:59] <kslater> I'll try that next
[12:59] <ikonia> kslater it all gets a bit tricky with pam over riding / under riding nsswitch
[13:00] <jens_> but I'll look into it; so you say vlc is able to play video directly from smb/ftp? looks nice if that's possible; then I only have to give here an ftp account
[13:00] <kslater> ikonia, so just replace compat with files for passwd, group and shadow
[13:01] <dolphin_noel> Hello :)
[13:01] <kslater> some googling last night turned up a bug where /tmp has the wrong permissions after an upgrade
[13:01] <ikonia> kslater: change passwd/shadow/group to "files"
[13:01] <kslater> I'll check that too
[13:01] <kslater> ikonia: thanks.
[13:02] <ikonia> kslater that may get you logging in in "normal" mode so you can progress ldap further
[13:02] <sharkp> hi
[13:02] <burwaco> mohkohn, for some things root is still more powerfull than a sudooed user, noone know exactly for what things, but I'm pretty sure it involves me making your dinner...
[13:02] <Downix> can I install Ubuntu over a network?
[13:02] <sharkp> how can I load a module on boot of the kernel?
[13:02] <dgjones> !install | Downix
[13:02] <ubotu> Downix: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:02] <Elephantman> hello :)
[13:02] <sharkp> how can I load a module on boot of the kernel?
[13:02] <revx> what internet messenger app that has a Webcam support?
[13:02] <ikonia> sharkp ubuntu should load it for you
[13:02] <cast> jens_: any decent player [..mplayer...] will be able to play from http, too, or you could use NFS to make the file appear local
[13:03] <Flynsarmy_> I know i really should ask this on the firefox channel but the channels pretty dead. Anyone know of an extension that lets you rename tabs to specified name?
[13:03] <burwaco> sudo get your ass in the kitchen and bake me some pie !
[13:03] <sharkp> ikonia: I want to load a particulary module
[13:03] <ikonia> sharkp ubuntu should detect it at boot time if its needed and load it for you
[13:03] <ircg> h
[13:03] <joje> always disconnected
[13:03] <ircg> i
[13:03] <[chr0n0s]> hi, how can i use my PGP key with pidgin ?
[13:04] <sharkp> ikonia: gutsy kernel doesn't do it for module of my sata HD
[13:04] <sharkp> but edgy kernel yes
[13:04] <jens_> thx cast; but I'm not going to install a web server on my local machine, but I do have ftp; and I'm looking in to it now :)
[13:04] <dgjones> revx, try either aMSN or possibly kopete
[13:04] <sharkp> Which could be the problem?
[13:04] <ikonia> sharkp is the modeule in the kernel or an extenal one
[13:04] <ikonia> sharkp you can "modprobe" the module or "insmod" it
[13:04] <sharkp> ikonia: ata_piix, a module in the kernel
[13:05] <sharkp> ikonia: why does edgy kernel load on edgy but not on gutsy kernel?
[13:05] <Downix> it says to get the files from install/netboot, but the install/ directory is empty
[13:05] <sharkp> ikonia: ehm, i re-say :)
[13:05] <burwaco> lol
[13:05] <sharkp> ikonia: why does edgy kernel load this module but not gutsy kernel?
[13:06] <Downix> let me check again
[13:06] <w4j> \join ubuntu-pl
[13:06] <[chr0n0s]> hi, how can i use my PGP key with pidgin ?
[13:06] <revx> ok tnx
[13:07] <rpj8> How do I make Java work as the java handler in firefox RATHER than gcj?
[13:07] <burwaco> [chr0n0s], don't know, chack google and pidgin site, search for pluginor something?
[13:07] <lightstar> [chr0n0s], you're reffering to pidgin-encryption? if thats the case then the other party has to support it as well
[13:07] <erUSUL> rpj8: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:07] <erUSUL> !java
[13:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[13:07] <Downix> nope, no install/netboot
[13:07] <burwaco> !flash
[13:07] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:08] <[chr0n0s]> lightstar, no pidgin-encryption is of no use, i cannot use my existing keys, and the person i am talking to is using kopete
[13:08] <rpj8> erUSUL: That was already my default, yet about:plugins in firefox says gcj still handles java
[13:08] <papa_adams> Hello, i my video card seems to be broken so i wanna know what happens if u boot with no video card and also if doing that affects the grub, ty.
[13:08] <Downix> ok, found one in ftp
[13:09] <Downix> and now my browser freezes as it tries to read the image rather than save it....
[13:09] <lightstar> [chr0n0s], hmm...gotta try burwaco's idea then...google + pidgin site
[13:10] <[chr0n0s]> lightstar, burwaco already googling, no success yet
[13:11] <lightstar> [chr0n0s], so u 1 2 talk 2 ur friend on kopete using encryption rite
[13:11] <Alejandr0> Hello, my video card seems to be broken so i wanna know what happens if u boot with no video card and also if doing that affects the grub, ty.
[13:11] <Pici> !u | lightstar
[13:11] <ubotu> lightstar: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[13:11] <herbalise> i juste resized my logical volume to 50 Gig and want to free up the space now, lvdisplay gives me 50 gig lvgroup 75Gig
[13:11] <The_Machine> how to join a multipart zip file:  file.zip.001, file.zip.002, etc?
[13:11] <herbalise> how do i use the 25 gig
[13:11] <lightstar> Pici, sorry :)
[13:12] <cast> The_Machine: cat file.zip.* > file.zip
[13:12] <jrib> The_Machine: just unzip the first one
[13:12] <[chr0n0s]> lightstar, ermm.. i want to talk to my friend who is using kopete, encrypted
[13:12] <burwaco> [chr0n0s], http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php
[13:12] <buscon> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu gutsy
[13:12] <cast> herbalise: so what do you want to do? expand your 50gb volume to take up 75?
[13:12] <kkathman> Alejandr0, do you have video support on your motherboard ?
[13:12] <buscon> but I've got no window borders
[13:12] <buscon> what can I do?
[13:12] <buscon> no compiz or beryl installed
 i dont know
[13:12] <ikonia> buscon are you using an nvidia card by any chance ?
 but its quite possible
[13:13] <[chr0n0s]> burwaco, that is of no use, it not working with my pgp key, plus the other end needs pidgin too
[13:13] <burwaco> buscon, metacity ?
[13:13] <buscon> ikonia, no, it's ati
[13:13] <ikonia> buscon not the same problem then, sorry
[13:13] <buscon> ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x
[13:13] <mcp_> Hello. When I try to install "VMware Player", i get a message that my type of PC (i386) is not supported. Why that? What can i do about?
[13:13] <wshaddix> how can I install ath5k using gutsy?
[13:13] <kkathman> Alejandr0,  check on your motherboard (back of the computer) and check if you do.  If so, then remove the bad card, and ubuntu should reconfigure itself to the new video. In any case grub wont be affected
[13:13] <cast> [chr0n0s]: i suggest you use xmpp [aka googletalk||jabber]
[13:14] <cast> [chr0n0s]: that supports using gpg encryption
[13:14] <m4jkl> mcp_: maybe you download x64 binary?
[13:14] <xyz> how can i make a file run automatically on startup, without asking me for the sudo password_
[13:14] <mcp_> m4jkl, i used the add-software application
[13:14] <cast> xyz: do you have a /etc/rc.local?
[13:14] <ikonia> mcp_ a few others have commented on that, it appears the vmware package is not available in your rpo for your aarch
[13:15] <mcp_> bad news
[13:15] <[chr0n0s]> cast, you mean the protocol ?, i am using xmpp for gtalk
[13:15] <lightstar> xyz, you have to add it to your sudoers file to work without password, then add it your startup location
[13:15] <martino_> salve
[13:16] <Kaxi> hey, my wireless stops working 80% of the times I try to use Gmail in Firefox...is this a known bug or something?
[13:16] <xyz> cast: i dont know O_o
 ok, ty. Another thing, what could possibly happen if i got no video support and boot anyway.
[13:16] <lightstar> xyz, if you're running it from a gui, otherwise /etc/rc.local (with the executable bit on) works as well
[13:16] <cast> xyz: you could...try...looking, or something.
[13:16] <joje> Pici, are u from freenode? Seems you know all rules inside this chat room. :)
[13:16] <herbalise> cast: i just reduced it from 75 tot 50 gig i want to use the other 25 gig and make new parition on it
[13:17] <cast> herbalise: then use lvcreate to create a 25gb partition in that volume group
[13:17] <xyz> cast: im on the live cd atm
[13:17] <Pici> joje: I'm not freenode staff, but I am an ubuntu op.
[13:17] <pbn> Hello, how can I (re)-select the locales I need ? dpkg-reconfigure locales regenerates the locales, but does not allow me to *choose* th e locales...
[13:17] <joje> ubuntu op? what's that
[13:17] <cast> [chr0n0s]: yes, i mean the protocol. good xmpp clients [psi, gajim, not pidgin, dunno about kopete] will supports it
[13:17] <kkathman> Alejandr0,  well, technically, error messages (that you wouldnt see). But I think probably it would end up at a shell login (again that you wouldnt see) unless you had a fall back video - but I imagine your Motherboard has integrated video
[13:17] <Pici> joje: Operator priveleges in a few of the #ubuntu-* channels
[13:17] <joje> oh
[13:17] <joje> yeah
[13:18] <darren> How do I disable the constant requests for a password whenever I make small changes in Ubuntu?
[13:18] <xyz> lightstar: how do i add it to sudoers file and to startup location?
[13:18] <joje> no wonder I familiar with this name, Pici ;P
[13:18] <cast> darren: small changes being?
[13:18] <darren> cast: synaptic, using my NTFS drive. etc.
[13:19] <burwaco> *installing UT4*...
[13:19] <xyz> cast: is rc.local a file i have to edit to be able to do this?
[13:19] <lightstar> xyz, what application are you trying to execute anyway?
[13:19] <m4jkl> xyz: you need sudo
[13:20] <[chr0n0s]> cast, pidgin is good client.. isn't it :( i guess i have to check other clients, and yeah kopete supports pgp
[13:20] <[chr0n0s]> gpg*
[13:20] <cast> [chr0n0s]: pidgin, for whatever reasons, has shitty xmpp support. it baffles me - they've had years to make it decent but haven't *shrugs*
[13:21] <[chr0n0s]> cast, so what do you suggest ?
[13:21] <xyz> lightstar: some commands for iptables that i found in the help files :P
[13:22] <snkmad> i cant get the program alltray to work on 7.10 amd64
[13:22] <snkmad> it worked fine on 7.04 x86
[13:22] <joepain> hey guys, i've got ubuntu 6.06 installed through parellel on my mac book
[13:22] <lightstar> xyz, then you have to add it to /etc/rc.local. if it doesn't exist create it "sudo vi /etc/rc.local", paste your command there..double check the file to make sure its executable
[13:23] <joepain> when i goto do a command like apt-get install compiz-manager
[13:23] <darren> cast: is it possible to disable the password requests?
[13:23] <joepain> it comes back with 'command manager not found'
[13:23] <w4j_> join ubuntu-pl
[13:23] <joepain> why would it be trying to run manager as a command?!
[13:23] <joepain> me?
[13:23] <jrib> darren: it's a good idea to require a password to install using synaptic.  The password is cached for ~15 minutes anyway.  As for the ntfs, drives, you can change permissions.  Let me know if ubotu's link does not help:
[13:23] <jrib> !ntfs > darren (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:23] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > darren (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:24] <Pici> joepain: the package is compizconfig-settings-manager , not compiz-manager
[13:24] <[chr0n0s]> joepain, ccsm
[13:24] <greencookie> hey
[13:24] <cast> darren: certainly, but i think there are better ways. but atm i'm doing something else
[13:24] <greencookie> why am I seeing dice in front and back of each and every nickname?
[13:24] <greencookie> >
[13:25] <xyz> lightstar: thanx. it wont ask for the password will it?
[13:25] <cast> [chr0n0s]: gajim and psi are the two best xmpp clients, they do that and nothing else. naturally you can talk to users of msn/icq/etc... through the use of gateways
[13:25] <joepain> Pici: sorry i was trying to install gnome-compiz-manager
[13:25] <darren> cast: thank you for the links. they may help me with the ntfs problem
[13:25] <lightstar> xyz, nope..it'll run during startup as root
[13:25] <joepain> either way, why would it come up with command manager not found? odd
[13:25] <[chr0n0s]> cast, thanks, trying gajim
[13:25] <trekkme> what is the command which lies behind that logoutbuttun that pops up this logut/swtch user etc menu?
[13:25] <snkmad> joepain try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:25] <xyz> lightstar, cast: thank you both :)
[13:26] <greencookie> Hello I have a BIG problem:D
[13:26] <jrib> trekkme: why?
[13:26] <simplyubuntu> hey does anyone know a good wysiwyg editor?
[13:26] <simplyubuntu> !wysiwyg
[13:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wysiwyg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:26] <simplyubuntu> greencookie!!!
[13:26] <jrib> !kompozer > simplyubuntu (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:26] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, !!:)
[13:27] <trekkme> why? i wanna make a link to it somewhere elser, but not in the panel
[13:27] <simplyubuntu> kaisay ho?
[13:27] <simplyubuntu> thank jrib :)
[13:27] <greencookie> lol lets keep the language to english in here. Plus Urdu isn't my mothertongue. I just said I understand it simplyubuntu not talk:) hehe.
[13:27] <greencookie> Im good tho simplyubuntu . :)
[13:28] <jrib> trekkme: gnome-session-save --kill     will do the same I suppose
[13:28] <greencookie> just got a couple of problems in ubuntu.
[13:28] <greencookie> Can someone tell me why it takes me to command prompt when I log out of gnome>?
[13:28] <trekkme> jrib: that wont log me out instantly?
[13:28] <jrib> trekkme: no
[13:28] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[13:28] <jrib> trekkme: try now if you want
[13:29] <jrib> greencookie: using gdm?
[13:29] <simplyubuntu> talked to stupidgirl?
[13:29] <greencookie> jrip I'm using Gnome.
[13:29] <simplyubuntu> heeh
[13:29] <trekkme> THX jrib
[13:29] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, No. Not for a while.
[13:29] <simplyubuntu> or stupidboy ( you never know man
[13:29] <jrib> greencookie: when you start ubuntu, do you get a login screen?
[13:30] <greencookie> lol agreed simplyubuntu.
[13:30] <greencookie> jrib, no:) straight to terminal! I recently installed kubuntu:)
[13:30] <greencookie> but something terribly wrong happened (i guess):)
[13:30] <jrib> greencookie: that is why then, you need to use something like gdm or kdm and have that start when you boot
[13:30] <joepain> Pici: it says E: couldnt find compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:30] <matter> yo
[13:31] <greencookie> jrib. any way I can reset it to gdm or kdm starts on its own?
[13:31] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[13:31] <Pici> joepain: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:31] <matter> some point me toward windows channel plz
[13:31] <Pici> matter: ##windows
[13:31] <jrib> greencookie: is gdm installed?
[13:31] <sridhar> hi everbody, I need to create live cum install CD for our distro which is based on debian, but iam following the procedure of "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization", but iam getiing error, while loading kernel " /init: .: 163: Can't open /scripts/casper  Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" plz
[13:31] <simplyubuntu> listen, do you know how i can get banshee to import files in mp3 format?
[13:31] <greencookie> Gnome? yes! I'm using it :)
[13:31] <matter> thank you Pici
[13:31] <pbn> sridhar: live cum ? wrong channel... this isn't a pr0n channel heh
[13:31] <cast> a live cum install cd?
[13:32] <greencookie> jrib, yes I previously had choice of logging out of gnome then switching to KDE. I dunno what I did wrong.
[13:32] <jrib> greencookie: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy gdm'
[13:32] <jrib> !pastebin > greencookie (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:32] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, Why using banshee.?
[13:32] <greencookie> thnx jrib be back
[13:32] <cyne> live, becoming an install cd
[13:32] <RhinoA1> Are there any games you can play on linux platform
[13:32] <sridhar> pbn : Do u know the proper channel??
[13:33] <Pici> sridhar: Try ##linux
[13:33] <RhinoA1> games like dume or age of impires
[13:33] <RhinoA1> empires
[13:33] <general> conectet
[13:33] <general> a
[13:33] <general> a
[13:33] <general> aa
[13:33] <general> a
[13:33] <general> aa
[13:33] <burwaco> RhinoA1, no..., sorry
[13:33] <Pici> general: stop
[13:33] <general> halo
[13:33] <jrib> general: do not do that
[13:33] <burwaco> RhinoA1, lol
[13:33] <fevel> how can I install realplayer on x64 gutsy??
[13:33] <ramkumar> you can try them over wine rhino
[13:33] <general> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[13:33] <sridhar> Pici: thanks
[13:33] <general> skmdf
[13:33] <Jeruvy> !op
[13:33] <general> gsad
[13:33] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[13:33] <general> fs
[13:33] <general> fs
[13:33] <simplyubuntu> greencookia as opposed to?
[13:33] <ramkumar> for linux strategy games, you could give war of wesnoth a try
[13:34] <joepain> Pici: im running 6.06
[13:34] <burwaco> RhinoA1, try this one... http://89.106.68.26/linux/urbanterror4/urt40-linux-installer.sh
[13:34] <greencookie> what happened?
[13:34] <joepain> its the only one i could get working through parellels
[13:34] <Rowan>  HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!
[13:34] <jrib> fevel: mplayer with w64codecs from medibuntu should play realplayer stuff
[13:34] <greencookie> How was I kicked?:) lol
[13:34] <greencookie> jrib, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1548/
[13:34] <Pici> greencookie: I accidentally kicked you.  /me shakes fist at bad tab-completion
[13:34] <Abuh> its battle for wesnoth not war of wesnoth :X
[13:34] <Pici> greencookie: I apoligize.
[13:34] <greencookie> ah Pici, its all good:)
[13:35] <Hohlraum> anyone have issues with the networking on their desktop hanging after a couple/three weeks of the machine being up?  not getting any kind of dmesg errors or anything.  its very strange.  happened 2x now since gutsy came out.
[13:35] <simplyubuntu> greencookie what else would i use?
[13:35] <ramkumar> oh, oops...sorry abuh
[13:35] <greencookie> I was just a bit suprized lol.
[13:35] <fevel> jrib: i can already play them...but I would like to try out realplayer
[13:35] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, heard of exaile?
[13:35] <ramkumar> heh, i just remembered wesnoth
[13:35] <simplyubuntu> nopr
[13:35] <Maqiavelo> Hello
[13:35] <jrib> greencookie: ok, pastebin: ls /etc/rc*/*gdm*
[13:35] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, or last.fm
[13:35] <simplyubuntu> looking it up hold on
[13:35] <greencookie> ok jrib, simplyubuntu be rite back
[13:35] <jasonago> is there anyone of you who have experience using gambas?
[13:36] <greencookie> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1549/
[13:36] <simplyubuntu> !info exaile
[13:36] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.10+debian-1.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 437 kB, installed size 2012 kB
[13:36] <Pici> jasonago: looks like #gambas exists, they should know how to use it :)
[13:36] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, try Amarok! hands down the best player ever coded for music playback:) (IMHO):)
[13:37] <burwaco> jrib, now that you're talking about runlevels and stuff, is it normal that a non-free flashplugin is in rcS on my machine ?
[13:37] <greencookie>  simplyubuntu, the only reason I don't like Amarok is it hangs up whenever I boot, so I can't use it these days. So i switched to Exaile.
[13:37] <jasonago> Pici: ok thanks....
[13:37] <greencookie> jrib, do you think I should do something?:O)
[13:37] <simplyubuntu> i know
[13:37] <simplyubuntu> but greencookie i HATE the way it looks
[13:38] <Zombie> So no one really answered me.
[13:38] <burwaco> greencookie, ever tried songbird ?
[13:38] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, then try exaile. its sweet.
[13:38] <greencookie> burwaco, Nopes.
[13:38] <Zombie> Are you folks familiar with the hard disk spin down and spin up issue dealing with the Hard Disk Spin down and spin up issue? What action if any should I take on the issue.
[13:38]  * greencookie prays to jrib to help him out.
[13:38] <burwaco> try it, you'll like it, it's based on mozilla
[13:38] <achadwick> burwaco: no, not with flashplugin-nonfree.
[13:38] <tanath> can someone help me with this k3b error? http://pastebin.ca/756390
[13:38] <greencookie> burwaco, songbird? is that like a Music player that browses the internet as well:) hehe
[13:39] <tanath> OPC failed
[13:39] <jrib> greencookie: so what happens when you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'?
[13:39] <achadwick> burwaco: what does it contain?
[13:39] <Pici> Zombie: By default the mode that causes this issue is not enabled, so for the most part you shouldnt have an issue.  There is a bug logged for it though, I dont have the number offhand.
[13:39] <burwaco> greencookie, in fact, it is... try it
[13:39] <burwaco> achadwick, /etc/rcS.d/S99flashplugin-nonfree
[13:39] <johnuah> how to download free game
[13:40] <greencookie> jrib,  this is what I get "  Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display manager.
[13:40] <greencookie> "
[13:40] <greencookie> burwaco, sudo apt-get install songbird??
[13:40] <spideyman> could someone have a look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:40] <idefix> where can you drop good ideas for new ubuntu versions?
[13:40] <achadwick> burwaco: could you http://paste.devpipe.com/ the contents of that file?
[13:40] <Pici> !games | johnuah
[13:40] <ubotu> johnuah: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[13:40] <jrib> greencookie: great, now run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' and tell it you want gdm to be default.  If that does not work, we will do it manually
[13:40] <greencookie> jrib, if it helps, I do remember at one point in time I gave something else the permission to be the default.
[13:40] <greencookie> ok jrib
[13:40] <simplyubuntu> greencookie, face it... banshee's much prettier
[13:40] <burwaco> achadwick, ok, hold on...
[13:41] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, Lol. I like Exaile a lot!
[13:41] <achadwick> Banshee *is* pretty. Its podcast interface is very well-thought-out.
[13:41] <greencookie> jrib, ! Thank you kind sir!
[13:41] <Pici> idefix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool  -- If you have something for a specific package I suppose you could file it as a bug/wishlist against the package.
[13:41] <stevarino> hi all
[13:41] <greencookie> jrib, it was defaulted on kdm.
[13:41] <johnuah> property
[13:41] <jrib> greencookie: gdm starts now?
[13:42] <simplyubuntu> achadwik havent really used podcasts... *blushes*
[13:42] <Lealcy> hi all
[13:42] <greencookie> jrib and I had purged kubuntu-desktop from Gnome after that.
[13:42] <greencookie> jrib, rofl.
[13:42] <burwaco> achadwick, http://pastebin.com/d129cb776
[13:42] <greencookie> jrib if your in the mood for it can you help me (if possible) with my ever long amarok or display problems?
[13:42] <spideyman> Im having trouble with webcam output is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:42] <atlfalcons866> can i read hfs+
[13:43] <jrib> burwaco: not here, but what does 'dpkg -S /etc/rcS.d/S99flashplugin-nonfree' say?
[13:43] <Lealcy> I did a clean instalation of gutsy, but the "screen and graphics" don't keep my custon configuration of resolution after reboot. Anybody haves the same problem?
[13:43] <[chr0n0s]> cast, any good free jabber servers?
[13:44] <jrib> greencookie: ask the channel.  If I have seen it before, I will try
[13:44] <XiXaQ> Has anyone installed Xrdp lately? I can only find source packages for the newest release..
[13:44] <tanath> can someone help me with this k3b error? http://pastebin.ca/756390
[13:44] <achadwick> Might it be an install from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html of from a 3rd-party repo rather than the Ubuntu one?
[13:44] <greencookie> Ok jrib  but thank you so much for fixing my gdm prob. I've had it for the past 2 weeks and couldnt figure it out.
[13:44] <jrib> greencookie: no problem
[13:45] <burwaco> jrib, dpkg: /etc/rcS.d/S99flashplugin-nonfree not found.... weird...
[13:45] <Task> After I install ubuntu ..... do I have to install anything else for the cool effects? (The block screen you can move around, menu effect)
[13:45] <simplyubuntu> greencookie gnash vs. flash?
[13:45] <greencookie> Can anyone help me with Amarok's sqlite database? I want to reset it but I cant even when I purge/reinstall amarok.
[13:45] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, never used gnash. so flash:)
[13:45] <Draculim> how i delete windows list from my panel ?
[13:45] <greencookie> Task, I think you mean beryl. or compiz-fusion now.
[13:45] <spideyman> no webcam 3 weeks need help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:46] <cast> [chr0n0s]: many
[13:46] <Lealcy> nobody?
[13:46] <Task> greencookie : Thats a addon ? or built in?
[13:46] <achadwick> Draculim: right button on the little dots/lines to the left of the leftmost window button
[13:46] <[chr0n0s]> cast : amessage.info
[13:46] <greencookie> Task, which version of ubuntu/gnome u running?
[13:46] <burwaco> jrib, can I safely remove it ?
[13:46] <Task> I am installing.... one sec lemme see
[13:46] <simplyubuntu> how can you purge a package from the command line? anyone?
[13:46] <bloony> ok.. findaly I got ubuntu installed.. I had to use the alternative cd.. but when it boots now it boots into text mode.. how do I start gnome? and how do I set it to manualy start gnome at bootup?
[13:47]  * achadwick wonders if Desktop Tower Defence will work under gnash. Because that's the only useful application for flash.
[13:47] <jrib> burwaco: how about 'readlink -f /etc/rcS.d/S99flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[13:47] <greencookie> simply
[13:47] <Draculim> achadwick: thanks
[13:47] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, if you wanna purge amarok its 'sudo aptitude purge amarok'.
[13:47] <Task> Ubuntu 7.10
[13:47] <burwaco> jrib, /etc/init.d/flashplugin-nonfree
[13:47] <Task> Iam installing right now on desktop... I am on laptop
[13:47] <simplyubuntu> in this case its exaile...
[13:47] <greencookie> Task, you should be able to enable graphics effects if ure video card configures correctly.
[13:47]  * simplyubuntu gets ready for the tounge lashing
[13:47] <jrib> burwaco: and 'dpkg -S /etc/init.d/flashplugin-nonfree'?
[13:48] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, lol didnt u like it?:)
[13:48] <burwaco> jrib, way ahead... :)
[13:48] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, I think its got some pretty neat plugins.
[13:48] <Task> ok cool,,,, I am just kinda excited... I wanna try it myself,,, and wasnt sure if there was a add on to use the cool effects
[13:48] <simplyubuntu> i know... but its blandness kind of irritates me
[13:48] <bloony> anyone?
[13:48] <simplyubuntu> banshee's all.. colourful and stuff :P
[13:48] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, thats cool. tried the last.fm player?
[13:49] <Lealcy> I did a clean instalation of gutsy, but the "screen and graphics" don't keep my custom configuration of resolution after reboot. Anyone haves the same problem?
[13:49] <burwaco> jrib, it stalls 30 seconds, then says flashplugin-nonfree: /etc/init.d/flashplugin-nonfree
[13:49] <spideyman> could someone please help webcam problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:49] <bloony> ok.. findaly I got ubuntu installed.. I had to use the alternative cd.. but when it boots now it boots into text mode.. how do I start gnome? and how do I set it to manualy start gnome at bootup?
[13:49] <simplyubuntu> player i dont know about, but i get last.fm recommendations in banshee
[13:50] <Task> greencookie : Is there a site for all the programs ubuntu can run? things i might need that I used to run in wnidows?  Like Yahoo messenger, Steam, ?
[13:50] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, just installed banshee. looks nice:)
[13:50] <jrib> burwaco: I would just leave it... you can read the inside and see what it does
[13:50] <greencookie> Task, hold on.
[13:50] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[13:50] <kkathman> does anyone know the inner workings of samba that could explain why smb:// in nautilus sometimes returns that it cant "display all workstations" - shouldnt it display the ones it can?
[13:50] <atlfalcons866> !hfs
[13:50] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[13:50] <simplyubuntu> glad you think so
[13:50] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, I think I might purge exhaile as well.:)
[13:50] <atlfalcons866> !fuse
[13:50] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[13:51] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, I want the audioscrobbler for exhaile but couldnt find it :)
[13:51] <simplyubuntu> since im bandwidth deprived, i always check out screenshots before apt-getting :)
[13:51] <mitch_> Hi cany anyone suggest cciss 9HP SmartArray_ Tweaks, Im only pulling 70MB/s off a RAID5 and RAID1 Array
[13:51] <Draculim> how start in sessions avant windows navigator ?
[13:52] <Draculim> achadwick: how start in sessions avant windows navigator ?
[13:52] <bloony> ok.. findaly I got ubuntu installed.. I had to use the alternative cd.. but when it boots now it boots into text mode.. how do I start gnome? and how do I set it to manualy start gnome at bootup?
[13:52] <robert_> gah
[13:52] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, that simply sucks:)
[13:52] <kl4m> This is not quite Ubuntu support...
[13:52] <robert_> console-setup just hangs
[13:52] <robert_> wtf
[13:52] <achadwick> Draculim: dunno, don't use that.
[13:52] <spideyman> cant install spca5xx help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:52] <Draculim> achadwick: why
[13:52] <achadwick> because the standard Ubuntu taskbar is sufficient for my needs.
[13:52] <greencookie> Hey Task. Here http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html
[13:53] <Task> Thanks
[13:53] <Draculim> achadwick: but is diferent
[13:53] <burwaco> jrib, according to dpkq flashplugin-nonfree is not installed anymore, can I just delete the link in rcS ?
[13:53] <achadwick> Oh wait. I meant "sorrt, don't know, I personally don't use avant windows navigator". (oops)
[13:53] <arghh2d2> Ok, i got a question about GRUB.  i have a windows partition that i want to wipe out on /dev/hda1  but i'm afraid i might wipe out grub on the MBR.   I dont know why but there is an 8 mb NTFS partition at the end of my harddrive, could be my MBR?
[13:53] <jrib> burwaco: sure
[13:54] <achadwick> arghh2d2: no, the MBR occupies part of block 0 on the physical volume.
[13:54] <spideyman> has anybody had problems installing spca5xx
[13:54] <achadwick> The rest of block 0 is the partition table :)
[13:54] <mitch_> spideyman: yes
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> arghh2d2 windoes makes a 8mb partition for somne backup stuff for some odd reason
[13:55] <spideyman> <mitch what to do ?
[13:55] <arghh2d2> Dr_Willis,  achadwick, ok, so what precautions should i take in wipe out hda1
[13:55] <simplyubuntu> yeah Dr_Willis... 8mb will get you alot...
[13:55] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> simplyubuntu tell MS.
[13:55] <mitch_> well whats wrong first..
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> arghh2d2 if you delete the partitions. that shouldent touch grub.
[13:55] <bloony> ok.. findaly I got ubuntu installed.. I had to use the alternative cd.. but when it boots now it boots into text mode.. how do I start gnome? and how do I set it to manualy start gnome at bootup?
[13:55] <simplyubuntu> yeah microsoft needs a rude awakening
[13:55] <simplyubuntu> heee
[13:56] <simplyubuntu> and bill gates isnt the richest!
[13:56] <simplyubuntu> finally
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> bloony whats your video card? You dident use the 'server' cd did you?
[13:56] <spideyman> mitch http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:56] <achadwick> arghh2d2: I guess you could back your partition table and the boot loader to a floppy or something using dd.
[13:56] <arghh2d2> Dr_Willis, i plan to delete hda1 and reformat ext3
[13:56] <simplyubuntu> someone from my side of the world is powerful! boo yah!
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> arghh2d2 delete the parttion, remake it .set its type to ext3, format it
[13:56]  * achadwick tends to just dive in with fdisk, but occasionally breaks things
[13:56] <Task> Hrmm..... The instructions said it would take 25 minutes to install Ubuntu .... Its been at the 85% Mark for the last 10 minutes...    "Installed tomboy"   Is this ok or did it freeze?
[13:56] <arghh2d2> whats a floppy?   j/k
[13:57] <burwaco> upgrade to gutsy also makes a bunch of crap empry directories in ~...
[13:57] <achadwick> Dr_Willis, arghh2d2: just setting its type in cfdisk and mkfs.ext3-ing it should be enough.
[13:57] <arghh2d2> i dont have a floppy disk and my cdburner's burnt out
[13:57] <jrib> burwaco: read comments in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults
[13:57] <bloony> dr_willis: its intel m915 I think.. a laptop.. no I used the alternative.i386.iso
[13:57] <sharkp> hi
[13:57] <sharkp> my live cd can't see my two sata HD
[13:58] <pike_> arghh2d2: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation   might help a few options there
[13:58] <achadwick> Backing the partition table up to a partition on the same disk sounds like an Unhelpful Strategy somehow.
[13:58] <kl4m> Task, try ctrl+alt+f4
[13:58] <sharkp> I've mounted the module necessary
[13:58] <sharkp> but nothing
[13:58] <jrib> burwaco: and /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf ...
[13:58] <dgjones> Task, sometimes the installer doesn't update the screen, my update screen stayed the same for 45 minutes but the drive was still spinning and updates were being installed
[13:58] <kl4m> Task, there should be a more verbose progress output, press ctrl+alt+f1 to return
[13:58] <bucatoamano> !ot
[13:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:58] <Cyber_Stalker> task it does chill there
[13:58] <Task> hmmm..... jeezz.... I think I might know why... You need internet connections for the finish of install?
[13:59] <Task> My desktops not hooked up to internet yet
[13:59] <Task> "Could not reslove"
[13:59] <spideyman> spca5xx install problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[13:59] <aoupi> hi, where do I set my locale?
[13:59] <burwaco> jrib, it behaves like aliasses in apache.conf ?
[14:00] <jrib> burwaco: I don't know about aliases in apache so I couldn't say
[14:00] <achadwick> Right. Today's lunchtime minihack commencing. How to get users' jpegPhoto records in LDAP into the gdm facebrowser...?
[14:00] <Task> It will continue the install process if its not hooked up to the internet? And will it continue so I can hook it up later?
[14:01] <ze_> is this the right channel to ask about the latest ATI driver and ubuntu?
[14:01] <ipx> #ati
[14:02] <burwaco> jrib, "the values are relative pathnames" where will you see or use these values ? in bash (mv file MUSIC moves file to /home/user/Music ???)
[14:02] <xecov> ciao
[14:02] <xecov> ci sono italiani ?
[14:02] <jrib> !it | xecov
[14:02] <ubotu> xecov: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:02] <greencookie> Can someone help me with Amarok's SqLite problem?
[14:02] <xecov> sorry
[14:03] <simplyubuntu> greencookie why not #amarok?
[14:03] <greencookie> simplyubuntu, you're a genius.
[14:03] <bloony> ok.. findaly I got ubuntu installed.. I had to use the alternative cd.. but when it boots now it boots into text mode.. how do I start gnome? and how do I set it to manualy start gnome at bootup?
[14:03] <simplyubuntu> maybe someone more qualified than one of these bunch
[14:03] <simplyubuntu> :)]
[14:03] <Task> Will the install continue without the internet connection?
[14:04] <arghh2d2> Dr_Willis,  achadwick, Is there a way to verify that grub is still installed after i wipe out and reformat hda1?
[14:04] <Gin> hi, is there any  wallpaper changer that does the wallpaper change effect like the one in OSX?
[14:04] <arghh2d2> bloony, gdm might work
[14:04] <dgjones> Task, What are you installing from, live cd or alternate cd? it should install without a net connection
[14:05] <Task> umm the alternate
[14:05] <Task> the test only one
[14:05] <arghh2d2> bloony, gdm = gnome display manager
[14:05] <Task> text*
[14:05] <jrib> burwaco: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs is the idea.  Basically, you get localized directories so apps can look for a "music" directory even if it is named "musica".  The .conf file lets you disable it if you do not like it
[14:05] <Odd-rationale> Gin: wallpaper-tray might be what you're looking for
[14:05] <dgjones> Task, it shouldn't need a net connection to install
[14:05] <spideyman> spca5xx install problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42817
[14:05] <bloony> arghh2d2: ok.. do I just type gdm in txt?
[14:05] <achadwick> arghh2d2: it should persist no matter what partitioner you use.
[14:05] <simplyubuntu> jrib, coincidentally my music folder is named musica
[14:05] <simplyubuntu> lol
[14:06] <herbalise> when i run apt-get install it asks me for ubuntu cd can't I point it to online?
[14:06] <jrib> herbalise: disable the cd in system -> administration -> software sources
[14:07] <Task> ok going to store... be back in a bit,,, if its still at %85 I will ask for more help thanks
[14:07] <arghh2d2> achadwick, i'd love to take your word for it, but i'd just like to be able to verify that grub is still there cuz i have no removable media to fix it if its not there... i do have that knoppix live cd tho, i guess thats my only backup strategy
[14:07] <herbalise> jrib tnx
[14:07] <arghh2d2> bloony, yes, try typing gdm and hit enter
[14:07] <bloony> ok ok
[14:07] <bloony> im on live cd now.. so have to reboot
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> arghh2d2  you can fix/reinstall grub with live cd's
[14:08] <arghh2d2> ok, cool, load off my mind, thanks achadwick and Dr_Willis
[14:08] <Gin> Odd-rationale, nah, it does not have the fade out/in effect , that's what I'm looking for
[14:09] <herbalise> is it possible to install windows xp on an lvm volume?
[14:11] <achadwick> arghh2d2: http://www.brunolinux.com/01-First_Things_To_Know/Backing_Up_the_MBR.html is useful. You can look at the generated file in less, and search for "GRUB" if you need to verify that it's a GRUB one.
[14:11] <brado> has anyone recompiled netatalk with ssl under 7.10?
[14:11] <achadwick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record gives the layout.
[14:11] <arghh2d2> thnks achadwick
[14:12] <Khamael> are d-link wireless adaptors supported in gutsy?
[14:12] <[chr0n0s]> !d-link
[14:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <gdiebel> Someone here that uses thunderbird please answer a question: Does it work with auto offline backend? What I mean is if you pull your network cable or disconnect from wireless while tb is in online mode, does it detect the change and switch over to offline mode? It works this way in windows and the code is supposed to work in linux, with a necko component that talks to networkmanager. The implementation bug is closed so perhaps 
[14:12] <juan> if i have a list of files in the ls -Z format how do i pipe them to chmod in a format itll read
[14:12] <Khamael> number seems to be DWL-G520M
[14:12] <[chr0n0s]> !dlink
[14:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dlink - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <ubed> hai
[14:12] <LjL-Temp> !fishing
[14:12] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[14:12] <ubed> heyy i installed ubuntu
[14:12] <ubed> and i had some problems with apt-cacher can any one help me out
[14:13] <juan> or is there a better way match user and group permisions
[14:13] <[chr0n0s]> ubed, good for you, bad for microsoft
[14:13] <ubed> [chr0n0s], i dint get u
[14:13] <TelnetManta> anyone using Ubuntu server as a file server for windows clients in a large network?
[14:13] <Ross> hey guys
[14:13] <Ross> can someone help me
[14:13] <Ross> I am trying to install ubuntu on my other computer
[14:13] <bulmer> magic word is please
[14:14] <achadwick> ubed: alas, I've always used approx before.
[14:14] <LjL> !helpme | ross
[14:14] <ubotu> ross: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:14] <NeoTubNinja> other computer? i dual boot
[14:14] <Ross> please
[14:14] <brado> magic word is asking your question in one line, not three with no information
[14:14] <ubed> okie did anyone use apt-cacher
[14:14] <Ross> I am trying to install the X86 version on my 64 bit system
[14:15] <ubed> i have soem problems with its starting
[14:15] <ubed> can anyone help me out
[14:15] <Ross> it starts up and I select Install ubuntu and it does its little orange bar then the screen is all wierd with blue and green colours in lines
[14:16] <juan> ubed: soz never used apt-cacher try the forums
[14:16] <herbalise> is it possible to install windows xp on an lvm volume?
[14:16] <cast> herbalise: only through the use of xen/vmware/etc...
[14:16] <crispy-afk> Anyone here got any experience configuring hamachi on ubuntu?
[14:17] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to search only for file names with grep? Or a program that does a file name search from cmomand line?
[14:17] <Ross> sorry about that
[14:17] <Ross> I got DC'd
[14:17] <Ross> it starts up and I select Install ubuntu and it does its little orange bar then the screen is all wierd with blue and green colours in lines
[14:17] <cast> Flynsarmy: man find
[14:17] <lm7805> Flynsarmy: find start_dir -type f -name "bla*"
[14:17] <dgjones> Ross, what graphics card do you have, maybe thats an issue
[14:17] <lukman_22_bgr> ggg
[14:17] <Ross> On board graphcs
[14:18] <Ross> its a new AMD dual core Mobo
[14:18] <dgjones> Ross, Intel/ATI/Nvidia?
[14:18] <Ross> its a via chipset
[14:18] <juan> herbalise: the problem would be that windows cant read its own partition, unless some1 has writen drivers for it
[14:18] <omega> hey
[14:18] <Ross> I will try starting it in safe graphcs mode
[14:19] <dgjones> Ross, it might be worth you trying the alternate install cd, that uses a text based installer rather than the graphical one and works on more machines
[14:19] <matter> can anyone help me
[14:19] <herbalise> juan i have 21 GIG of free space on my lvm volume group, can i use this in any way to install xp on it?
[14:19] <dgjones> !anyone | matter
[14:19] <omega> does anyone have a current problem with gaim?
[14:19] <ubotu> matter: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:19] <|Siegel|> yoooooo
[14:19] <Ross> it seems to be getting further
[14:19] <|Siegel|> can anyone else a damsel in distress
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> herbalise in any way that i know of.
[14:20] <Ross> nope
[14:20] <TelnetManta> anyone using Ubuntu server as a file server for windows clients in a large network?
[14:20] <|Siegel|> :(
[14:20] <juan> herbalise: i doubt it if you have no alternatives you could try and search around for windows drivers but its unlikely to work
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> herbalise NOT in any way that i know of.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[14:20] <dgjones> !anyone > |Siegel|
[14:20] <|Siegel|> I need help connecting to the internet on ubuntu
[14:20] <|Siegel|> I really would appreciate anyone who wants to help
[14:20] <crispy-afk> |Siegel| how do you want to connect?
[14:21] <|Siegel|> any way possible
[14:21] <savetheWorld> Seveas: may I pm you please?
[14:21] <principeb13> ubuntu br que coloca um link pra mim
[14:21] <|Siegel|> I have a cable modem terayon TJ 715, on windows i connect through this stupid window with username and password
[14:21] <|Siegel|> that's the problem
[14:21] <crispy-afk> Well what do you have? Internet on another computer? Cable?
[14:21] <savetheWorld> !spanish
[14:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[14:21] <|Siegel|> cable
[14:21] <|Siegel|> just one computer
[14:21] <Pici> !br | principeb13
[14:21] <ubotu> principeb13: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:22] <Konam> hi
[14:22] <principeb13> valeu
[14:22] <crispy-afk> hmm im unfamiliar with that :>
[14:22] <burwaco> I just installed UT4.0, someone in here gave me a link, looks nice, thx to whoever that was... :)
[14:22] <Konam> I want to know if im affected by the killer laptop hdd bug
[14:22] <|Siegel|> crispy-afk: thanks anyway
[14:22] <nicolah> it's a fresh gutsy install and I have this problem http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/nicoladimaria/Schermata-10.png the window goes under the panel, I'm not using any compiz. any idea ?
[14:22] <|Siegel|> DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW?
[14:22] <principeb13> Como eu posso fazer um link
[14:22] <jens_> isn't vmware server in the repositories anymore?
[14:23] <principeb13> toda vez que eu queser entra em ubuntubr
[14:23] <Konam> he number of load cycles is increasing by 3 in ten minutes (140-143)
[14:23] <flixh> Konam: be happy, that's about 50 for me...
[14:23] <Ross> the orange bar gets right to the end before screen goes wierd
[14:23] <chalcoprite> Peeps does anyone know how to connect with a cable modem to the internet  ????
[14:23] <Pici> principeb13: escribe /j #ubuntu-br
[14:23] <dgjones> !br | principeb13
[14:23] <ubotu> principeb13: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:23] <Konam> the AC cable is disconnected, is more agressive when it is
[14:23] <CubeXombi> chalocoprite, usually i just plug it in
[14:24] <Pici> !hdbug | Konam
[14:24] <ubotu> Konam: Ubuntu does *not* modify hard-drive lifespans by default. An analysis from an Ubuntu Technical Board member and ACPI expert can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77672.html (See https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html and http://tinyurl.com/2vyrft for more information)
[14:24] <principeb13> ok
[14:24] <ck27> I have a quick newb question.  www.myonelife.net/windowslarge.png You see the Xchat at the top how big the whole thing is how do i reduce the size.  Its on all windows.
[14:24] <Ross> can you run the 86 version of ubuntu on a 64 computer??
[14:24] <flixh> Pici: you now that there are quite a lot of different opinions on that...
[14:24] <dgjones> Ross, yes
[14:25] <Ross> ok
[14:25] <herbalise> juan: i have no way of trowing the unused space out of the volume group
[14:25] <Konam> Pici I'm not saying is an ubuntu bug
[14:26] <Konam> Pici and we still don't know who is causing this exactly
[14:26] <Pici> Konam: okay, well, there is more information in the links there that can help you see if you are effected by it.
[14:26] <CubeXombi> any Wifi/ndis guru's in the house? I've got mine working I'm just having a few issues, a little slow when it works. Currently i can't see any access points
[14:26] <robert_> ugh
[14:26] <robert_> damnit damnit damnit
[14:26] <burwaco> ???
[14:27] <knightly_> I'm having some torrent problems, if there are any experts in here.
[14:27] <robert_> my upgrade sits there at "* Setting up console font and keymap..."
[14:27] <burwaco> knightly_, what torent problems ?
[14:28] <knightly_> well, I've got a torrent, I'm not using comcast, I'm connected to thirty peers, and it's not seeding a bit.
[14:28] <burwaco> nat configured correctly ?
[14:28] <robert_> and my upgrade went all fine except for this
[14:28] <brado> knightly_, how many of those peers are interested in your pieces?
[14:28] <knightly_> I've tried it with four torrenting applications in ubuntu 7.10, and they all had this problem. Yes, my NAT is all fine.
[14:29] <nicolah> it's a fresh gutsy install and I have this problem http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/nicoladimaria/Schermata-10.png the window goes under the panel, I'm not using any compiz. any idea ?
[14:29] <majib> slt
[14:29] <knightly_> *goes and fiddles with that setting*
[14:29] <burwaco> knightly_, in that case... noone wants your torrent ?
[14:29] <enry> Hi!! Anybody Know how to contact Canonical for Business study ??
[14:30] <knightly_> okay, I turned on the interest setting  in the peers window, and I'm not seeing anything.
[14:30] <Ross> it is booting now
[14:30] <knightly_> this torrent has three times as many peers as seeds, so the problem is there... I think...
[14:31] <burwaco> nicolah, what is your desktop resolution ?
[14:31] <Lightenix> can anyone tells me why i cant install java plugin for firefox?
[14:31] <dgjones> enry, have you tried the contact us/about us page on the ubuntu website?
[14:31] <Lightenix> or how should i install it?
[14:31] <enry> people at my University i have a business study over Ubuntu for an exam anybody can help me?
[14:31] <Bonster> lol
[14:32] <Pici> enry: canonical.com
[14:32] <enry> yea now i'm tryng to contact the canonical
[14:32] <ruben> hello, how can I save a file using utf-8?
[14:32] <Davy_Jones> i don't have a floppy drive on my desktop machine and whenever ubuntu tries to look for it, it either stops for too long or locks up.. what should i do to make it forget that there is a floppy drive?
[14:32] <Ross> thanks guys
[14:33] <Ross> hopefully I will be talking on linux
[14:33] <majib> need to get firefox
[14:33] <nicolah> burwaco: my desktop resolution is 1152x864@50hz
[14:33] <CubeXombi> Davy_Jones I removed the line in mt /etc/fstab for my CD-rom, you can look there
[14:33] <majib> how to install final cut
[14:33] <burwaco> nicolah, weird, it's probably something with metacity/compiz settings then...
[14:34] <radioaktivstorm> ok.....i dont remember what i had to do the last time, but my modprobe for ndiswrapper doesnt stick around after shutdown :(
[14:34] <radioaktivstorm> anybody know what i should do?
[14:34] <Pici> Davy_Jones: Your bios might think its there too, check to see if its disabled there too.
[14:34] <noel> Greetings folks. Is there a vocoder in ubuntu studio?
[14:34] <spideyman> how would I get read write access to kernal source tree?
[14:34] <Davy_Jones> Pici: good idea, thanks
[14:35] <nicolah> burwaco: I'm not using compiz and it's a fresh install of gutsy.
[14:35] <DigitalOktay> Hello
[14:35] <knightly_> nobody has a clue on this torrent problem?
[14:35] <gordonjcp> noel: not as such, but there is a ladspa vocoder
[14:35] <Jed1> is there a solution on the smbfs problem?
[14:35] <gordonjcp> noel: there's also a patch to fix the lack of stereo output
[14:35] <DigitalOktay> Where can I find Ubuntu Banner for my Blog. I want to Help
[14:35] <noel> how do I install the ladspa vocoder?
[14:35] <IdleOne> DigitalOktay: www.ubuntu.com
[14:36] <burwaco> nicolah, what if you just rightclick on the title bar and choose resize ?
[14:36] <Radio1> I just put a new cpu in my sys..how do I get it to see it.
[14:36] <gordonjcp> noel: compile from source
[14:37] <gordonjcp> noel: it works fairly well, definitely worth the effort
[14:37] <burwaco> Radio1, less /proc/cpuinfo
[14:37] <Radio1> k
[14:37] <nicolah> burwaco: it won't let me resize the window vertically, just horizontally. plus is there a way to avoid the screen going under the panel ?
[14:37] <noel> I have attempted ./configure,make make install, but cannot get past the configure part.
[14:38] <brado> noel, what's the error?
[14:38] <burwaco> nicolah, I don't know, I had the problem once, it was window manager related when I was testing beryl/emerald, I don't remember what the solution was...
[14:38] <aoupi> hi, I have a Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03) sound card, but I only get sound in the right speaker
[14:39] <CubeXombi> Any one good with crappy wireless? My card did just work seconds ago.
[14:39] <burwaco> aoupi, plug in the left speaker too then... :)
[14:39] <noel>  ./configure: No such file or directory
[14:39] <gordonjcp> noel: that's a bit odd
[14:39] <aoupi> burwaco: :p
[14:40] <gordonjcp> noel: stupid question but a) you've untarred the source tarball, and b) you're in the right directory?
[14:40] <nicolah> burwaco: I was using compiz and I thought it was a compiz bug, but now I disabled it. and I remember that when I first tried the live version of gutsy, to install it, I had to move panel to the borders of the screen because I could'nt click on "ok" or "apply" in the installation windows. looks like there's some issue with my new-brand xorg
[14:40] <jjj> happy halloween!
[14:40] <noel> yes. in correct directory.
[14:41] <sharkp> my pc can't see my two sata hd
[14:41] <sharkp> they're in raid
[14:41] <sharkp> or better, not my pc
[14:41] <gordonjcp> noel: can you see the file "configure"?
[14:41] <sharkp> my live cd
[14:41] <sharkp> what shall i do?
[14:41] <noel> there is no file "configure"
[14:41] <gordonjcp> noel: check you downloaded the right thing
[14:41] <Pici> !raid | sharkp
[14:41] <ubotu> sharkp: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[14:42] <gordonjcp> noel: what *exactly* did you download?
[14:42] <Pici> sharkp: I believe you need to use the alternate CD to install on a RAID.
[14:42] <sharkp> Pici: neither Alternate can see HD
[14:42] <GHound> hi
[14:42] <Pici> sharkp: Can anything see the disks? another OS?
[14:43] <sharkp> Windows see them
[14:43] <GHound> i'm having some problems enabling desktop effects
[14:43] <sharkp> Pici: I can see my hd with edgy kernel
[14:43] <sharkp> I've also loaded ata_piix module in gutsy
[14:43] <principeb13> #ubuntu br
[14:43] <sharkp> but nothing
[14:43] <gordonjcp> noel: I have done this and got it working, and well
[14:43] <noel> vocoder-jack-0.21.tar.gz
[14:43] <gordonjcp> noel: but I'm at work right now and really really really busy
[14:43] <radioaktivstorm> i think i figured out my problem. :P thanks!
[14:44] <gordonjcp> noel: maybe try in #lad
[14:44] <gordonjcp> noel: can you wait about two hours?
[14:44] <methods[work]> is there any talk of @ubuntu offering support/warrenty like redhat does ?
[14:44] <Pici> methods[work]: Yes, you can purchase support on Ubuntu.com
[14:44] <gordonjcp> noel: or better yet -> http://linuxrockstar.blogspot.com/2006/07/effect-ladspa-vocoder-howto.html
[14:44] <noel> it approaches midnight in Perth Western Australia
[14:44] <methods[work]> Pici:  so then why do some places still only work with redhat ?
[14:44] <GHound> is there any way I can install a video driver without having root access ? I'm on my college PC and I only have a limited account
[14:45] <gordonjcp> noel: follow the directions on that page *exactly*
[14:45] <GHound> no root access
[14:45] <logreeval> Hi, my networked printer works once for the computers, then if i reboot the computers, i cant see the networked printer anymore, any ideas?
[14:45] <sharkp> Pici: what shall I do?
[14:45] <Pici> methods[work]: Vendor lock in? I dont know if Ubuntu sells support contracts through third parties, which could be an issue.
[14:45] <|Zippo|> hello... someone is having troubles with samba at gutsy?
[14:45] <Pici> sharkp: let me loook at something for a minute, hold on.
[14:45] <gordonjcp> noel: http://www.gjcp.net/kelly.mp3 <- a wee demo of the ladspa vocoder I put together
[14:45] <sharkp> sharkp: ok
[14:46] <sharkp> Pici: would you know somew information about my pc?
[14:46] <symphony-> I am on Gutsy, and when I use aoss, I can record myself but I cannot hear any playback ... any ideas?
[14:46] <methods[work]> Pici:  what about on the server ?
[14:46] <noel> That is where I got the links for the download. I also bit the extra file in tho get stereo
[14:46] <gordonjcp> noel: cool
[14:46] <logreeval> anyone?
[14:47] <GHound> is there any way I can install a video driver without having root access ? I'm on my college PC and I only have a limited account
[14:47] <Pici> methods[work]: They definitly provide server support.  See: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[14:47] <LjL> GHound: no
[14:47] <GHound> damn
[14:47] <kl4m> GHound: no root=no driver, except with FUSE for filesystems
[14:47] <principeb13> #ubuntu-br
[14:47] <noel> downloaded file, decompressed into a subdirectory within desktop, no configure file.
[14:48] <GHound> the thing is desktop effects worked on another system in college unde the same account
[14:48] <GHound> but on this one it doesn't work
[14:48] <aoupi> how can I reinstall/reconfigure everything that is related to sound?
[14:48] <Pici> sharkp: Are you running a software or hardware raid and what controller are you using?
[14:48] <drifterz> I am having audio problems where my 5.1 speaker system is only working with the front right speaker and bass. Please help I can't find info on this.
[14:49] <sharkp> Pici: wait
[14:49] <drifterz> Correction sorry it's only working on the front left speaker
[14:50] <Lunks> I'm having trouble enabling NVAGP on my ubuntu
[14:50] <Lunks> AGPGART gets enabled no matter what I try.
[14:50] <lrbabe> anybody has internet here ?
[14:50] <sharkp> Pici: How can i know if there's a software or an hardware raid?
[14:50] <drifterz> I hope we all do
[14:50] <Lunks> I already tried blacklisting agpgart on /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, with no luck.
[14:50] <Lunks> Can anyone help?
[14:50] <logreeval> no one knows about network printing here?
[14:50] <lrbabe> I miss my internet access...
[14:51] <Pici> !printing > logreeval (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:51] <pablito> I have a question: How do I upgrade my Ubuntu 5.04 to Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[14:51] <ikonia> pablito you can't, you'll have to do a clean install
[14:51] <reya276> hello
[14:52] <pablito> are u really sure?
[14:52] <ikonia> pablito yes
[14:52] <logreeval> thanks Pici i will see if i can find my answer
[14:52] <Pici> logreeval: good lucj
[14:52] <Pici> s/lucj/luck
[14:52] <ikonia> Pici lucj ;)
[14:52] <reya276> anyone good with egroupware setup, for some reason after I created the configuration/ header file I can't login
[14:52] <xand> hi, since I upgraded from feisty to gutsy I can no longer mount NFS exports.... it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on kronos.xelam.net:/u3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.... any ideas? no errors in syslog
[14:52] <pablito> so, clean install = ?
[14:52] <drifterz> I need to get my surround sound working please help.
[14:52] <Pici> ikonia: I just type too fast for my own good
[14:53] <ikonia> Pici I have tht same problem, plus fat fingers
[14:53] <pablito> Ikonia what exactly is a clean Install?
[14:53] <monozz> hiiii
[14:53] <ikonia> pablito fresh install of the core OS components
[14:54] <pablito> ?
[14:54] <monozz> hiii
[14:54] <Pici> !hi | monozz
[14:54] <ubotu> monozz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[14:54] <pablito> core OS components?
[14:54] <monozz> hi jga
[14:54] <xand> poo
[14:54] <ikonia> pablito yes the OS as is in ubuntu
[14:54] <monozz> leh kenal gak ni
[14:54] <xand> nfs-common was missing, wonder why it's not there anymore
[14:55] <_hopex> hi, I have an issue with fsck wich dies with exit status 4. I can resume system boot, but would like to know how to fix it
[14:55] <Pici> !id | monozz
[14:55] <ubotu> monozz: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[14:55] <pablito> how does it work? could you tell me about some details?
[14:55] <pablito> do i need to erase my current system?
[14:55] <ikonia> pablito yeah, put the cd in - eraswe your current OS and install the new one
[14:55] <pablito> ok
[14:55] <monozz> animsi_suhar@yahoo.com
[14:55] <pablito> Thank you very much
[14:56] <pablito> bye and thanks
[14:56] <noel> Greetings Folks. what does this mean? vocoder.c:24:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[14:57] <noel> that was the message after running "make"
[14:57] <Pici> noel: Do you have the build-essential package installed?
[14:58] <noel> what is the build essential package?
[14:58] <sherlock> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:58] <noel> thanks
[14:58] <_hopex> is there a way to fix the file system?
[14:59] <sherlock> any success stories with devilspie and gutsy, i get syntax errors, i believe it might be because of compiz fusion?
[15:00] <IeWuTteA> hello
[15:00] <flithm> hey everyone, what is the package to install to get standard man pages for clib, and xorg, and opengl and the likes?
[15:00] <Pici> sherlock: Devilspie should work if CF is installed or not, there really shouldnt be any difference.
[15:01] <Brandon_> Okay I'm just gonna start from the beginning. What's the best way to make a program start on startup after another program?
[15:01] <Pici> flithm: manpages-dev has all the C manpages, I think thats what you mean, right?
[15:01] <sherlock> pici - I get syntax errors even after copy/pasting the .ds files from there website
[15:01] <flithm> Pici: yes, excellent, thanks
[15:02] <Task> I got  question,,,, it said it insalled all the way.... when I booted it up it stays at a black screen,,,, do i have to type something to get to the interface???
[15:02] <noel> Thanks everyone. The vocoder is now installed.
[15:02] <bulmer> Brandon_-> write a little script
[15:02] <Brandon_> bulmer, I did
[15:02] <tuna> Brandon: an interactive program or a daemon, and started on what user?
[15:02] <bulmer> Brandon_-> then execute the script
[15:03] <burwaco> where can I find good firestarter rules ?
[15:03] <Pici> sherlock: Odd. I havent had any issues using other people's devilspie scripts
[15:03] <Brandon_> bulmer, in rc5.d using a symbolic link yeah bulmer
[15:03] <sherlock> pici, i will give u an example maybe u can spot the error
[15:03] <sherlock> brb
[15:03] <eternalswd> I'm wanting to dist-upgrade now from feisty to gutsy, but aptitude is listing dependency issues.  Most of them I am not concerned about, but the new linux kernel is showing that it won't be installed and I am concerned about that one.  It says linux-restricted-modules-686 depends on the old kernel as well as linux-image-686, so it's not wanting to install the newer kernel.  What can I do to remedy this without breaking my system?
[15:03] <Brandon_> what's the best way to write the script. I've been told about two different interpreters
[15:03] <bulmer> Brandon_-> you also know that init level 3,4,5 are the same? so put a link on those other two
[15:04] <omh> what is the default key to press to enter the LILO-menu under boot on 6.06?
[15:04] <Brandon_> bulmer, I need the program to run after another program. rc5.d is the only place for it to run. Understand?
[15:04] <mynyml> i've installed a printer, and it seems to be recognized, but when i send a job it gets stuck on a 'held' status - any common solution to this?
[15:04] <ikonia> omh there isn't a lilo menu
[15:04] <and1> H
[15:04] <and1> Happy halloween
[15:04] <ikonia> omh do you mean grub ?
[15:04] <Brandon_> bulmer, for instance, S22
[15:04] <bulmer> Brandon_-> no i dont understand, those 3 are same levels..
[15:05] <|Whitor|> hi, After upgrading from feisty to gutsy, I can no longer Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... all I get is a blinking cursor... any ideas ?
[15:05] <omh> ikonia: no, i use lilo, cause Grub can't boot my LVM
[15:05] <wamty> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[15:05] <saltdawg> Hi room.
[15:05] <Whitor> Sorr about the | in front of my nick ...
[15:05] <Lordveda> Which X11 driver fits for the Amilo 1705 chrome IGP? The openchrome or the unichrome one?
[15:05] <ikonia> omh lilo you edit the lilo.conf file then use lilo -v to update it
[15:05] <bulmer> Brandon_-> then look at the other and you will see they should also have S22*
[15:05] <saltdawg> I'd like to ask about Ubuntu 7.10
[15:05] <Whitor> saltdawg: go ahead
[15:05] <saltdawg> What are the major improvements on it?
[15:05] <Brandon_> bulmer, okay, I'm really ignorant. I thought they were separate levels. Can you walk me through making the correct bash script?
[15:06] <saltdawg> I still haven't tried it yet.
[15:06] <Whitor> saltdawg: stability
[15:06] <The_S> join #montevideolibre
[15:06] <Task> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, But when it boots it doesnt goto the Interface.... it stays a back like screen
[15:06] <saltdawg> Thanx
[15:06] <saltdawg> anything else?
[15:06] <bulmer> Brandon_-> there is #bash to get help on scripting
[15:06] <Lordveda> I have been googling for this problem for sometime, I really need help in this problem.
[15:06] <ikonia> Whitor I don't think stability is a big improvment on gutsy
[15:06] <riotkittie> i dont think previous versions were unstable
[15:06] <Brandon_> bulmer, thanks
[15:06] <wamty> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[15:06] <sherlock> pici - here is the error i recieve: ** (devilspie:6691): WARNING **: Error in parsing: Unexpected token encountered: 226
[15:06] <sherlock> Cannot parse /home/sherlock/.devilspie/firefox.ds: Unexpected token encountered: 226
[15:06] <wamty> WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) *
[15:06] <ikonia> saltdawg it is basically fesity with newer versions and a few improvments on the tools ets
[15:06] <Whitor> saltdawg: and better wireless support... and better restricted drivers management... and better support for 3rd party codecs
[15:06] <wamty> (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO)
[15:06] <wamty> (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available
[15:06] <Pici> sherlock: can you pastebin the entire script?
[15:06] <wamty> what to do?
[15:06] <Pici> !paste
[15:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:07] <omh> ikonia: yes, I know, but my system is now in a state where it can't boot, because of a kernel panic. I know what causes the kernel panic, but to fix it, I need to boot an old kernel, and therefore needs to get to the lilo-menu
[15:07] <FrankQuist> saltdawg: It has integrated desktop search.
[15:07] <wamty> it says the kernel has to have agpgart off
[15:07] <Whitor> saltdawg: and nicer graphics / window management options
[15:07] <Lordveda> !amilo
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amilo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:07] <_BaD> zdr kako ste
[15:07] <wamty> any ideas?
[15:07] <sharadg_> hi .. I recently made some changes to  /etc/fstab to enable some options changes for ext3
[15:07] <Lordveda> !chrome
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:07] <Whitor> saltdawg: IOW, LOTS of improvements
[15:07] <Lordveda> !unichrome
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unichrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:07] <sherlock> (if
[15:07] <sherlock> (is (application_name) “Firefox”)
[15:07] <sherlock> (begin
[15:07] <sherlock> (set_workspace 2)
[15:07] <sherlock> (maximize)
[15:07] <sherlock> )
[15:07] <sharadg_>  now I am getting my harddisk only in read-only mode
[15:07] <sherlock> )
[15:07] <_BaD> sladok
[15:07] <_BaD> sladok
[15:07] <Lordveda> !search amilo
[15:07] <ubotu> Found:
[15:07] <sherlock> pici: hows that look?
[15:08] <Pici> sherlock: please use the pastebin next time...
[15:08] <wamty> guys?
[15:08] <Lordveda> !search unichrome
[15:08] <sherlock> pici: how do you do that?
[15:08] <Pici> !msgthebot | Lordveda
[15:08] <ubotu> Lordveda: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[15:08] <Pici> !paste | sherlock
[15:08] <ubotu> sherlock: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:08] <Pici> sherlock: read ubotu's message
[15:08] <sherlock> !paste
[15:08] <sherlock> !paste | sherlock
[15:08] <Radio1> Cant find cpuid/cpuinfo...where do I find either one.
[15:08] <Pici> sherlock: just look up at its message.
[15:08] <saltdawg> I was wondering, is there Opera for Linux?
[15:08] <rjune__> yes
[15:08] <riotkittie> saltdawg: yes
[15:08] <telmich> Radio1: do 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' in a terminal
[15:08] <ikonia> saltdawg sure
[15:09] <sherlock> gotcha
[15:09] <Lordveda> !msgthebot | Lordveda
[15:09] <saltdawg> How can I get it?
[15:09] <Radio1> k thanks
[15:09] <wamty> agpgart                35016  2 fglrx,amd64_agp
[15:09] <wamty> what should I do GUYS?
[15:09] <FrankQuist> saltdawg: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29
[15:09] <Task> Ummm anyone...?  I just booted up the first time and it stays at *Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[15:09] <rjune__> I'm having a bizzare problem with 7.10, it loses network connectity at random intervals
[15:09] <wamty> not sure how to shutdown X without rebooten entire pc in ubuntu
[15:09] <wamty> How to do it?
[15:10] <ikonia> rjune__ intel wirless card ?
[15:10] <riotkittie> rjune__: wireless?
[15:10] <ikonia> wamty crtl+alt+del
[15:10] <rjune__> no, VM on wired
[15:10] <FrankQuist> Task: Try the forums, it's possibly easier to get detailed and indepth help for stuff like that there
[15:10] <ikonia> rjune__ ughh vm
[15:10] <wamty> del?
[15:10] <rjune__> I've not found anything in the logs y et.
[15:10] <wamty> or ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[15:10] <saltdawg> THANKS A LOT! You guys are great! :)
[15:10] <desertc> wamty: your charming personality doesn't make it want to shutdown?
[15:10] <jhaig> wamty: You can do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[15:10] <saltdawg> Are there any improvements on graphics in 7.10?
[15:10] <wamty> not ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[15:10] <delta> Hi. I'm having trouble to install the nvidia driver under feisty. Any help?
[15:10] <Radio1> says no such directory.
[15:11] <desertc> delta: Are you using the one contained within the Ubuntu Restricted Drivers?
[15:11] <wamty> how to shutdown X?
[15:11] <SKOPJE> SLADO_15
[15:11] <wamty> not ctrl-alt-backspace
[15:11] <wamty> that will kill it
[15:11] <wamty> I want shutdown
[15:12] <desertc> wamty: Your enter key is not a period key.
[15:12] <Pici> wamty: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:12] <sherlock> pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42824/
[15:12] <saltdawg> Has dial-up networking become easier in 7.10?
[15:12] <wamty> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[15:12] <Sloe> Hi,  I'm getting an error while installing packages in apt-get...does the scrollkeeper always report "extra contents at end of file"?
[15:12] <wamty> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[15:12] <delta> desertc, well, I just upgraded to feisty online (with the upgrade tool). I'm trying to use the shipped driver but I had an old installation of 87.55 on eidgy. So, something is conflicting in the kernel but I'm unable to fix it myself :-(
[15:12] <riotkittie> if you have a winmodem, probably not
[15:13] <delta> desertc, *97.55
[15:13] <desertc> delta: Talk with NVIDIA, that is not part of the Ubuntu package/
[15:13] <delta> desertc, argh.
[15:13] <saltdawg> What does winmodem mean? I'm not an expert in hardware.
[15:13] <wamty> what should I do?
[15:13] <Brandon_> bulmer okay. Should I be using sh scripts as in #!/bin/sh
[15:14] <wamty> i need to recompile kernel without it i think
 (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
 (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[15:14] <FrankQuist> Delta, I'm unknowledgable, but would you be able to revert to the Ubuntu kernel or something like that somehow and then use the restricted drivers tool?
[15:14] <Biju> hello I have finally managed to get my Ubuntu 64 running . but I have a few more doubts. The main one is how do I change the initial root (hd0,0) in grub to root (hd1,0) without having to edit each time when I boot
[15:14] <dgjones> saltdawg, when i upgraded to 7.10, it detected the winmodem in my laptop and offered to install a restricted driver automatically - I don't use it so didn't bother, but that sounds like some improvement
[15:14] <ikonia> wamty where did you get your video card driver ?
[15:14] <delta> FrankQuist, I'd love to do that but I'm unable at the moment. I tried a lot of things but still this error when loading the driver.
[15:15] <wamty> ? Anyone ?
[15:15] <ikonia> wamty where did you get your video card driver ?
[15:15] <riotkittie> Biju: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   [sudo nano or gksu gedit]
[15:15] <_hopex> Biju, edit the /boot/grub/(*list*)
[15:15] <wamty>  compiling a new kernel is gunna be fun :o
[15:15] <wamty> ATI
[15:15] <ikonia> wamty wait
[15:15] <Biju> Thank you _hopex
[15:15] <delta> FrankQuist, it remains something from a previous install I'm unable to uninstall completely.
[15:15] <ikonia> wamty where did you get your video card driver ?
[15:15] <wamty> how is taht related?
[15:16] <Radio1> Telmich:  got cat /proc/cpuinfo to work..How do i get hardware to see it.
[15:16] <ikonia> wamty ecause it is, where did you get your video card driver
[15:16] <Pici> sherlock: Try changing it to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42825/
[15:16] <Ntemis> hello
[15:16] <jshadow> Is there anywhere where breezy packages are still mirrored? I realize its no longer supported..
[15:16] <FrankQuist> Delta: Blah. Tried the forums? :-/
[15:16] <ikonia> wamty where did you get your video card driver ?
[15:16] <wamty> Pici: any idea?
[15:16] <wamty> ikonia; STOP
[15:16] <Ntemis> NTFS-3G  new version out can i update it?
[15:17] <wamty> If a Linux 2.6.11 or newer kernel was built with CONFIG_AGP enabled, the kernel AGP frontend is required to load the fglrx kernel module. To identify whether your kernel was built with CONFIG_AGP enabled, look for CONFIG_AGP=y in the kernel config file, or if the 'agpgart' module loaded.
[15:17] <ikonia> wamty just tell me where you got it
[15:17] <Aaboe> Hello, anybody can help me to make my installation danish? Some of the system is danish, but some parts is in english for instance my firefox
[15:17] <wamty> and agpgart is loaded
[15:17] <Aaboe> by the way - newly installed 7.10
[15:17] <delta> FrankQuist, that's indeed a possibility. I'd prefer to check if something simple can be done first.
[15:17] <desertc> ikonia: Out of the back of a van, from a guy I met in the alley....
[15:17] <ikonia> wamty thats not what the error is telling you, where did you get the driver ?
[15:17] <Ntemis> NTFS-3G out and is already build into the kernel
[15:17] <Ntemis> can i manually update it?
[15:17] <FrankQuist> Good luck either way.
[15:18] <_hopex> i have my system running OK but cannot fix the file system, do you know a way to fix the file system errrors?
[15:18] <bulmer> Brandon_-> yeah thats okay, as you see the other Sxx are started with same shell
[15:18] <wamty> ikonia, ati.com
[15:18] <wamty> I got it from there!
[15:18] <Radio1> Any one tell me how to tell hardware monitor to see from terminal this (cat /proc/cpuinfo')
[15:18] <wamty> the problem is the kernel is compiled with agpgart
[15:18] <wamty> Pici, please suggest anything
[15:19] <ikonia> wamty ok - that is you r problem. The kernel gutsy is usig has xorg built against it and will expet a specicifc driver version.
[15:19] <wamty> I don't don't need to use the internal AGP support... agpgart is fine ?
[15:19] <ikonia> wamty agpart is not just for agp support
[15:19] <buscon> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu gutsy
[15:19] <Pici> wamty: Er, Why do you think that I'll have some knowledge here?
[15:19] <ikonia> wamty why are you not using the driver from the ubuntu repo's
[15:19] <buscon> but I've got no window borders
[15:19] <wamty> I'm using 7.10
[15:19] <buscon> what can I do?
[15:19] <buscon> no compiz or beryl installed
[15:20] <FrankQuist> Buscon: You sure? The effects option in Appereance is turned off?
[15:20] <ikonia> wamty is there a reason your not using the drivers from the restricted driver mamanger in 7.10 ?
[15:20] <Pici> buscon: Compiz-fusion comes installed with Ubuntu 7.10
[15:20] <_hopex> buscon, you have already installed, just need to activate
[15:20] <wamty> I did Open the restricted drivers manager in "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver".
[15:20] <ikonia> wamty ok - so why did you then get teh driver from ati.com ?
[15:20] <wamty> because ati's is newer so thought it would work better
[15:20] <_hopex> buscon, try typing this in a console: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:20] <ikonia> !latest >wamty
[15:20] <Biju> Hi , Ive checked the menu.lst file to edit root (hd0,0) to root (hd1,0) and theres three places where I can change it . Should I change each and every entry in the file?
[15:20] <buscon> _hopex, ok, so I have to disable effect optizon
[15:21] <riotkittie> buscon: alt +f2 and metacity --replace for the short term. you can install compizconfig-settings-manager  if you want, and try enable the window decoration plugin
[15:21] <wamty> what to do now?
[15:21] <wamty> please suggest me anything?
[15:21] <ikonia> #wamty remove the driver from ati.com
[15:21] <riotkittie> tho, AFAIK, you shouldnt -have- to do that
[15:21] <_hopex> buscon:  not really, just type what I said to have a menu with full options
[15:21] <wamty> ikonia, how please Sir?
[15:21] <FrankQuist> buscon: If Compiz Fusion doesn't support your system it shouldn't even be able to start, so you've likely happened upon a bug of some sort
[15:21] <_hopex> buscon: then you can change the look and feel of everything
[15:22] <ikonia> wamty how did you install it ?
[15:22] <buscon> _hopex, FrankQuist, riotkittie, thanx now I take a look
[15:22] <pike_> Biju: you can depends on what you want usually youll just be selecting the top title entry when grub boots though
[15:22] <riotkittie> a bug? in alpha software? say it aint so. :x
[15:22] <wamty> I did sh ./ati-install.run
[15:23] <ikonia> wamty rats, thats a pain, thats going to be tough to remove
[15:23] <Biju> pike_, Thank you. I understand now :)
[15:23] <ikonia> wamty you can try joining #ati and asking if someone has a list of files it installs and removing them by hand
[15:23] <ikonia> wamty or maybe someone in here has a list of files
[15:23] <ikonia> but I doubt it
[15:23] <wamty> there's no way to do it automatically?
[15:23] <ikonia> wamty no - its not package managed
[15:24] <manuel_> hi
[15:24] <grewa> no.org
[15:24] <Ntemis> why ubuntu doesnt support native ati driver install by ./install-run.run.run ????
[15:24] <manuel_> kann mir jemand mit nvidia treibern unter 7.10 helfen?
[15:24] <FrankQuist> riotkittie: Hence why it shouldn't have been included with the new Ubuntu imho :(
[15:24] <wamty> ikonia, There is a command via aticonfig just gotta find it
[15:25] <Ntemis> how i can install latest version of NTFS-3G  ????
[15:25] <Ntemis> because is already in the kernel
[15:26] <Ntemis> new version has come out
[15:26] <Ntemis> and i need it badly
[15:26] <flithm> hey everyone I can't seem to find gkrellm themes in the repo, anyone here use gkrellm?
[15:26] <riotkittie> Ntemis: why?
[15:26] <Ntemis> because am having some problems
[15:26] <_hopex> Ntemis, i personally had a better feeling with the generic dirvers than the ones by ATI
[15:26] <wamty> ikonia, i found a install package for it
[15:26] <Ntemis> i have 2600hd pro
[15:26] <Ntemis> generic no go
[15:27] <wamty> ikonia, for ubuntu 7.10
[15:27] <ikonia> wamty but that doesn't change the fact that you've not installed it using that package so it can't remove it
[15:27] <john83> hi guys~
[15:27] <_hopex> by the way, i have fixed the file system already, thanx for your help guys
[15:27] <Ntemis> maybe your hdw is older\
[15:27] <Ntemis> than mine
[15:27] <john83> anybody has osund problem on 7.10???
[15:27] <john83> sound
[15:27] <ht> any one using hp laptop with ubuntu here ?
[15:27] <dgjones> !sound | john83
[15:27] <ubotu> john83: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:28] <wamty> ikonia, i can overwrite it
[15:28] <wamty> the installer itself has it
[15:28] <TLE> Aaboe: hey, you can join #ubuntu-dk, there should be some peopĺe there that can help you
[15:28] <Duddy> does ubuntu support the new geforce 8800GT?
[15:28] <ikonia> wamty thats up to you, I wouldn't but thats your call
[15:28] <wamty> ikonia, sh ./ati-install buildpkg ubuntu7.10
[15:28] <adrian_ubuntu> hi is there any hide ip or proxy for ubuntu
[15:28] <wamty> Why not ikonia?
[15:28] <ikonia> wamty thats up to you, I wouldn't though
[15:28] <pike_> Duddy: there are a few issues workarounds you have to go through if you havent bought it yet id save a little money and by 6800 or something
[15:29] <johnficca> I had my realtek rtl8185l wireless card working great on my desktop with ndiswrapper but then I just upgraded to 7.10 and now its not working...what should I do?
[15:29] <pike_> Duddy: im sure itll be worked out soon though
[15:29] <Duddy> aww
[15:29] <Duddy> ok, I'll be patient
[15:29] <wamty> Why not?
[15:29] <Ntemis> how i can enable the latest NTFS-3G  driver in 7.1?
[15:29] <Duddy> I havent bought it yet but I really want it
[15:29] <adrian_ubuntu> hi is there any hide ip or proxy for ubuntu
[15:30] <Duddy> ati sucks
[15:30] <ikonia> wamty there is no guarentee it will package up the same or remove cleanly
[15:30] <Pici> adrian_ubuntu: There are many proxy server applications in the Repositories.
[15:30] <navets> I have no sound can someone help me
[15:30] <Ntemis> 1.1030, released on October 29
[15:30] <navets> i had to install my alsa drivers
[15:30] <kl4m> Has anybody been able to use Samsung scanners as non-root%
[15:30] <adrian_ubuntu> do you know any tutorial any guide on internet that shows how to
[15:30] <navets> but now i have a problem: i have no mixer
[15:31] <wamty> ikonia, well #ati is ver silent
[15:31] <wamty> noone there awake
[15:31] <Ntemis> NTFS-3G v1.1030, released on October 29
[15:31] <ikonia> wamty hang around then
[15:31] <Ntemis> i need to install it
[15:31] <Ntemis> how to?
[15:31] <kimguru87> hi guys can u plz help me! i have dual booting system ubuntu feisty(sda3) and xp(sda1). i now want to completely formate and reinstall xp and i think that grub will be replaced with xp bootloader. how can i resolve this problem.any one have done this before?
[15:31] <Pici> !grub > kimguru87 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:32] <johnficca> does ndiswrapper work in ubuntu 7.10?
[15:32] <Brandon_> Anyone good with sh scripts. Is it called a dash script? If anyone is tell me. I need something looked over
[15:32] <qcode> johnficca: Yes, I'm using it now
[15:32] <pike_> Brandon_: what is the issue
[15:32] <Downix> ok, have Ubuntu 7.10 netbooted, yay
[15:32] <arun_> is it safe to directly upgrade to gutsy from feisty?
[15:32] <qcode> johnficca: I'm using for the  Wifi on my laptop
[15:32] <john83> sound
[15:32] <Downix> now... do I install it, or run Solaris on it now that I know how to netboot....
[15:32] <johnficca> qcode: I updated to ubuntu 7.10 and now its not working
[15:32] <Pici> arun_: Yes.
[15:33] <wamty> ikonia, owell that isnt going to work anyway ./ati-install --listpkg shows it but when i go to do ./ati-install --buildpkg Ubuntu/7.10 it says ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 175: dpkg-architecture: not found
[15:33] <Brandon_> pike_, I'll show you the script, I just need to type it out fast
[15:33] <chadde> I need help with ndiswrapper. I cant get it to survive reboots. I used sudo ndiswrapper -m, but it didnt help
[15:33] <navets> how do i get a mixer
[15:33] <pike_> !pastebin | Brandon_
[15:33] <ubotu> Brandon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:33] <arun_> Pici: would you recommend an upgrade over a clean re-install?
[15:33] <qcode> johnficca: for Wifi?
[15:33] <adrian_ubuntu> do you know any tutorial any guide on internet that shows how to setup a proxy
[15:33] <sherlock> kimguru87, I think you can install XP again, as normal - in the partiton you want. grub will be overwritten. then you use the livecd to put grub back
[15:33] <johnficca> qcode: yes
[15:33] <sherlock> except you dont go all the way through the install
[15:33] <john83> anybody has the sound problem on 7.10??
[15:33] <johnficca> qcode: its says the hardware is present
[15:33] <qcode> Check your /var/log/messages
[15:33] <Pici> arun_: I personally didnt have any issues upgrading, but of course your mileage may vary.
[15:33] <wamty> It didn't work
[15:33] <john83> i drives me crazy!
[15:34] <[manas]> how to unistall network maneger ???
[15:34] <dgjones> !sound > john83
[15:34] <qcode> johnficca: Let me see if I can find the link for you...
[15:34] <Pici> john83: Have you read the links that ubotu sent you?
[15:34] <johnficca> qcode: but it won't show my wireless network in the net app
[15:34] <john83> yes
[15:34] <qcode> johnficca: Check your /var/log/messages
[15:34] <john83> I read and check all the solutions but it doesnt work.
[15:34] <john83> !spund
[15:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spund - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:34] <john83> !sound
[15:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:34] <ryan_> Hi, I hope someone can help me. I'm a beginner with Ubuntu and I'm currently in failsafe terminal mode (small window) due to a missing libasound.so.2 file. Can anyone help me please?
[15:35] <xittum> dvdcss + w32codecs for gusty gibbon?
[15:35] <johnficca> qcode: what I'm I looking for in there?
[15:35] <Brandon_> pike_, I know what pastebin is :) http://rafb.net/p/wj236Q25.html
[15:35] <Pici> !medibuntu | xittum
[15:35] <ubotu> xittum: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:35] <IdleOne> !dvd | xittum
[15:35] <ubotu> xittum: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:36] <xittum> thanks
[15:36] <john83> anybody has any idea about this message? "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Internal data flow error"
[15:36] <qcode> johnficca: Look for any errors/warnings about your Wifi problem
[15:36] <ht> any one can help me with my hp speaker?
[15:36] <Brandon_> pike_, anything look wrong, it should run the ircbot program in the background. Is that what it looks like? Or did I do something wrong
[15:36] <negatendo> Has anyone here had any luck configuring an Elantech trackpad with Gutsy? Or, is it still pretty much unconfigurable?
[15:37] <[manas]> how to unistall network maneger ???
[15:37] <johnficca> qcode: I can't read it its all in computer linggo
[15:37] <adrian_ubuntu> hello does anyone know how to install a proxy on ubuntu helloooooooooooo
[15:37] <ryan_> Hi, I hope someone can help me. I'm a beginner with Ubuntu and I'm currently in failsafe terminal mode (small window) due to a missing libasound.so.2 file. Can anyone help me please?
[15:37] <john83> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Internal data flow error
[15:38] <Duddy> hellôoôôoö
[15:38] <dcnstrct> I have a web server running on my gibbon box (under VMware).   For some reason I can connect to the web server as "localhost" but I can't connect to it from my host OS even though I can ssh into the box.  Is ubuntu blocking this connectivity or is it VMware ? thnx
[15:38] <kimguru87> thanx all brothers i have read the link that ubotu sent its cleard all my doubts tnanx once again
[15:38] <pike_> Brandon_: what happens when you bash script.sh?
[15:38] <matelot> hi what is the command to show memory usage by process sorted by memory amount decreasing
[15:38] <kimguru87> ununt community rocks:)
[15:38] <ubuntu-usr> how can i setup a proxy
[15:38] <kimguru87> sorry ubuntu
[15:38] <Brandon_> pike_, how do I do that?
[15:38] <john83> matelot -> top
[15:38] <Duddy> ę
[15:39] <Duddy> å
[15:39] <Duddy> ß
[15:39] <Duddy> cool
[15:39] <pike_> Brandon_: for instance change #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash
[15:39] <Pici> !ot | Duddy
[15:39] <ubuntu-usr> how can i setup a proxy
[15:39] <ubotu> Duddy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:39] <Whitor> yes, ascii works
[15:39] <Duddy> sorry
[15:39] <ubuntu-usr> how can i setup a proxy
[15:40] <Brandon_> pike_, well first tell me do I put a symbolic link of that into levels 3,4,5?
[15:40] <matelot> John83, thatnks, how to sort "top" output by MEM ?
[15:41] <ubuntu-usr> how can i setup a proxy
[15:41] <qcode> johnficca: Are you still there?
[15:41] <johnficca> qcode: yes
[15:41] <qcode> johnficca: Here's the link I used to get my Wifi working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405552&highlight=7.10+bcm4309
[15:41] <ryan_> Could anyone tell me if I can use apt-get to install a realtek sound driver? I think it's what's caused Gnome to stop loading.
[15:41] <dgjones> !repeat | ubuntu-usr
[15:41] <ubotu> ubuntu-usr: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:42] <ubuntu-usr> how can i setup a proxy
[15:42] <pike_> Brandon_: yeah i mean if it works currently
[15:42] <johnficca> qcode: here is my messages file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42826/
[15:42] <gcostello> pa
[15:43] <mcquaid> i'm not finding much on the forums, is there a workaround for gl-desktop (gnome-compiz-preferences) having startup issues
[15:43] <john83> anybody has any idea about "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Internal data flow error" message?
[15:43] <grumbel> Do I assume right that there is no easy way to configure postfix for simple home use?
[15:43] <mcquaid> I launch it once, it doesn't launch.  I launch it again, then two instances show up.  and whatever I change doesn't stick to the next login
[15:43] <ArrPirate> grrr
[15:43] <Brandon_> pike_, I lose input when I run the script. Why is that?
[15:44] <mcquaid> for ex, i tried to turn desktop effects off and it did, but upon relogging in, it was enabled again
[15:44] <matelot> how to sort "top" output by MEM ?
[15:44] <Golumn> Hi, I am trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, but It fails trying to fetch from archive.ubuntustudio.org
[15:44] <Golumn> is something going wrong with it
[15:44] <yrlnry> After I change my CUPS configuration, do I need to restart cupsd?  If so, what's the right way to do that?
[15:44] <Brandon_> pike_, /scripts/ircbot/ircbot > /dev/null 2>&1 tells it to run i nthe background right? Or do I put & somewhere
[15:44] <johnficca> qcode: the link you sent is about a Broadcom card, I have a realtek rtl8185l card
[15:45] <flixh> matelot: run top and press > ones
[15:45] <mcquaid> Golumn, remove all you extra repositories before upgrading
[15:45] <Golumn> thanks
[15:45] <licious> what channel can I go to for help with web site stuff?
[15:45] <ikonia> licious: look on freenodes website
[15:46] <Pici> licious: #html perhaps
[15:46] <wamty> ikonia, no help till now
[15:46] <pipegeek> Hmm... anybody have any experience configuring network-manager-pptp?  I'm trying to set up a pptp connection with DNS peering disabled, but, unless I enable it, it overwrites my resolv.conf with a blank file.  Huh??
[15:46] <flixh> yrlnry: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart  does the job
[15:46] <ikonia> wamty help from who ?
[15:46] <wamty> the ati
[15:46] <ikonia> wamty I can't make that channel active
[15:46] <licious> thanks pici and ikonia
[15:46] <matelot> thanks flixh
[15:46] <yrlnry> flixh: thanks.
[15:46] <pipegeek> using gutsy, btw
[15:46] <mcquaid> anyone else get weird gl-desktop issues.  like it not launching at all?
[15:46] <pike_> Brandon_: output is being sent to /dev/null and stderr is going to stdout so everything is going to null
[15:47] <qcode> johnficca: In that case you might do some searching.. sorry
[15:47] <XsteelWolf> How do i check the version of xfree86
[15:47] <Brandon_> pike_, yeah so it runs in the background. Why do I lose input?
[15:47] <qcode> johnficca: You need the Windows driver for your card...
[15:47] <johnficca> why would my wireless card stop working after upgrading ubuntu 7.10?
[15:47] <Brandon_> pike_, I mean I can type but my console goes away
[15:47] <matelot> why is "top" report about MEM is different from the GUI "system monitor" ???
[15:47] <Pici> XsteelWolf: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[15:47] <ikonia> johnficca what type of card
[15:47] <pike_> Brandon_: might comment that out at first and just run the script to test if it works then
[15:47] <qcode> johnficca: I had the same question
[15:47] <johnficca> qcode: I have it and its already installed
[15:47] <ArrPirate> I'm having the same compiz problem I was having yesterday.. If I turn the appearance settings to 'None' then there's no problem but if I set it to 'Normal' or above some of the effects, like the screen dimming and the shift switcher mess up.
[15:48] <Egonis> I have a laptop with an i945 video card -- and have an external monitor plugged in, how do I use it as a secondary monitor? When I go to 'screens and graphics' the 'secondary screen' option is disabled for both screens. How do i change this?
[15:48] <johnficca> ikonia: realtek rtl8185l
[15:48] <john83> anybody have IBM X60 laptop??
[15:48] <qcode> johnficca: Does "dmesg" show anything suspecious?
[15:48] <Brandon_> pike_, how do I get my console back
[15:48] <ArrPirate> By 'mess up' I mean that it treats the upper left two thirds of my screen as my full screen, meaning that the effects are not full screen.
[15:48] <ikonia> johnficca someone else was having this problem earlier, there is also a bug logged for certain intel cards
[15:48] <matelot> I have the X40
[15:48] <johnficca> qcode: let me check
[15:48] <ryan_> I'm in failsafe terminal mode and I'm trying to compile my sound drivers, which I think has broken Ubuntu, but I get this error: "Error C compiler cannot create executables." Can anyone help please?
[15:48] <john83> it doesnt make any sound problem?
[15:49] <Pici> ryan_: you need to install the build-essential package
[15:49] <ryan_> thanks
[15:49] <dcnstrct> hi.  I have a webserver running on an gutsy ubuntu box in a VMware fusion session.   For some reason my host OS can't hit the web service even though it can ssh into the ubuntu box.  Is vmware probably blocoking the port or is it ubuntu ? thnx
[15:49] <ikonia> ryan_ why are you in a failsafe termiminal ?
[15:49] <ArrPirate> Yesterday I fixed this problem by changing my monitor in Screens and Graphics to 'LCD 1680x1050' and my resolution to 1680x1050 instead of 'Generic PnP', but I've since reformatted my hard drive an reinstalled Ubuntu and now the fix isn't working.
[15:49] <johnficca> ikonia: ok thats weird I just restarted and now its working
[15:49] <ArrPirate> anyone know what to do to solve my problem?
[15:49] <GuHHH>  does anyone uses apache chrooted with phpldapadmin? i cant get phpldapadmin working on the chroot environment
[15:49] <Pici> ArrPirate: Have you asked in #compiz-fusion too?
[15:49] <ikonia> dcnstrct is the webserer set to listen on the virtual iP address
[15:50] <john83> !sound
[15:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:50] <ikonia> johnficca sounds like the same issues as the intel card
[15:50] <qcode> johnficca: It's working now?
[15:50] <keitherz> hey i need help
[15:50] <johnficca> ikonia: I took ndiswrapper out of etc/modiles
[15:50] <Pici> !ask | keitherz
[15:50] <ubotu> keitherz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:50] <ArrPirate> no I haven't, Pici
[15:50] <wamty> ikonia, I can an change in xorg.conf ?
[15:50] <poetiath> flitet shqip ose greqisht ketu?
[15:50] <Schuetze1986> Hallo@all
[15:50] <ikonia> wamty what ?
[15:50] <[manas]> how to unistall network maneger ???
[15:50] <dcnstrct> ikania, perhaps it's not.   I'll check on that angle, thanks a lot for the tip
[15:50] <wamty> Could I deactivate ati in xorg.conf?
[15:50] <keitherz> my mysql.sock got broken
[15:50] <poetiath> albanjka???
[15:50] <johnficca> qcode: yes it is woooahh
[15:50] <qcode> johnficca: Good for you
[15:50] <poetiath> elenika?
[15:50] <ikonia> wamty no the problem is you have dumped an incompatible driver in - so deactivating it won't roll it back tot e compatible version
[15:51] <keitherz> how can i restore it?
[15:51] <johnficca> qcode: I just don't know what is was that I did to fix it
[15:51] <ikonia> keitherz defien broken
[15:51] <ryan_> I'm in failsafe terminal because Gnome complains of a missing libasound.so.2 file. I only have internet access through fail safe terminal.
[15:51] <keitherz> ???
[15:51] <mindframe-> why is audacious sound so buggy when it plays streams now?
[15:51] <ryan_> Rather than the plain terminal.
[15:51] <Pici> !doesntwork | keitherz
[15:51] <ubotu> keitherz: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[15:51] <johnficca> qcode: do you think I can get this card working in 64 bit ubuntu ?
[15:52] <ikonia> ryan_ that should just stop sound - not internet access in an normal session
[15:52] <qcode> johnficca: I couldn't get it to work, then next day I turned it on and it worked... maybe it needed a reboot
[15:52] <johnficca> qcode: I hear ndiswrapper doesn't work in amd 64
[15:52] <Biju> By default does Ubuntu check for packages from my DVD and then only download from the net or do I have to edit something to get it to work like that ? (Ubuntu AMD64 7.10)
[15:52] <dcnstrct> ikania, you were right, it was binding to local loop back by default.  thanks!
[15:52] <johnficca> qcode: yeah
[15:52] <ikonia> dcnstrct no problem
[15:52] <ryan_> When I try to log in Gnome instantly quits and gives me that error.
[15:52] <qcode> johnficca: Hmm... I'm not sure, you can always try it. :)
[15:52] <ikonia> ryan_ very annoyin
[15:52] <ryan_> Yup.
[15:53] <ikonia> ryan_ unexpected too
[15:53] <keitherz> is there a way to return my mysql.sock to the defaults cause it got deleted
[15:53] <ryan_> I've only had Ubuntu installed for a few hours.
[15:53] <ikonia> ryan_ why is the library missing, have you deleted it
[15:53] <ikonia> keitherz how did it get deleted ?
[15:53] <johnficca> qcode: I did reboot a few times, the only think I did this time was remove ndiswrapper from /etc/modules file
[15:53] <keitherz> i dont know
[15:53] <ikonia> keitherz you must, did you delete it, remove a package etc
[15:53] <arghh2d2> I got a quick question about how the system addresses partitions.  Are they numbered in the order they are created?
[15:54] <keitherz> no when i started again it wont start and cant find it anymore
[15:54] <johnficca> qcode: it should not even be on because I have not done a modprobe ndiswrapper
[15:54] <ikonia> keitherz just touch an empty file then
[15:54] <ryan_> Well I tried to install the realtek drivers, which failed twice. I tried to view Readme.txt, but I got an icon in the task bar "opening Readme.txt" then it disappeared, it didn't open, I did that twice, then decided to restart Gnome. Bang, error.
[15:54] <ikonia> keitherz as I recall it will need setuid permissions
[15:54] <qcode> johnficca: I had to add modprobe ndiswrapper to /etc/rc.local
[15:54] <DisabledDuck> in your opinion, what is the best e-mail application for Linux?
[15:54] <Pici> !best | DisabledDuck
[15:54] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[15:55] <DisabledDuck> Pic1: which is why i didn't specifically ask for "which ones the best" i just wanted opinions
[15:55] <wamty> Ikonia, can I do something like sh ./ati-install.run > somefile 2>&1  ?
[15:55] <wamty> and then rm them
[15:55] <taonari> Hi I have the latest nvidia driver installed and had to remove compiz because of the title bar corruption that keeps happening. Now on reboot all my title bars are missing.  How can I get them restored?
[15:55] <wamty> ?
[15:55] <johnficca> qcode: I hope they get a native driver for this card soon
[15:55] <ArrPirate> anyone know if there's a linux driver for a ViewSonic VX2234wm monitor? It's an lcd widescreen monitor with a default resolution of 1680x1050.
[15:55] <ryan_> The actual error Gnome gives is something about requiring a helper application. I'll control-z and get the actual message.
[15:56] <wamty> Ikonia, in that way I can see where it puts everything
[15:56] <redl> hi all
[15:56] <qcode> johnficca: Now you can write up a mini-howto for your card ;)
[15:56] <redl> where can i get source of ubuntu linux?
[15:56] <redl> *sources
[15:56] <dgjones> redl, do you mean the install cd?
[15:56] <darkmatter> well. in gnome if you need the works theres evolution. if you just need mail theres claws or thunderbird... etc etc. about the same is true for kde. you have a lot of choices <-- DisabledDuck
[15:56] <taonari> My title bars are missing after removing Compiz in 7.10.  Any ideas on how to get them restored when Gnome loads?  Right now I have to type metacity in a terminal.
[15:57] <johnficca> qcode: good idea
[15:57] <Radio1> How do I get my sys to (fsck)..
[15:57] <keitherz> mysql still fails to start
[15:57] <riotkittie> taonari: add metacity to your startup in sessions?
[15:57] <buzzed> how do i startup to the commandline my xorg.conf is messed up
[15:58] <taonari> riotkittie, I added metacity to startup but it isn't loading
[15:58] <ArrPirate> Wow, #compiz-fusion is dead compared to this channel.
[15:58] <keitherz> whats the location of the logfile of mysql again?
[15:58] <ieuan> join #libregamewiki
[15:58] <redl> dgjones: no i mean sources of ubuntu 7.10
[15:58] <ieuan> oops
[15:58] <Radio1> Must be lunch break.
[15:58] <norman> some one can help me with a problem about my ubuntu 7.10
[15:58] <norman> ?
[15:59] <ieuan> everything seems so
[15:59] <ieuan> quiet
[15:59] <buzzed> how do i startup to the commandline my xorg.conf is messed up
[15:59] <buzzed> ?
[15:59] <Radio1> I am eating windows fer lunch.
[15:59] <dgjones> redl, i'm not sure what you mean by sources of ubuntu 7.10
[16:00] <norman> can someone help me with a problem with my ubuntu 7.10
[16:00] <norman> ?
[16:00] <riotkittie> dgjones: the actual source code, i assume
[16:00] <redl> dgjones: source of every software which were used in Ubuntu 7.10 but i don't want to download each of them from official site of these applications or libs
[16:00] <darkmatter> redl: do you mean source *code* or apt sources?
[16:01]  * Quak3r is needing help with MSN !!! -> HELP!
[16:01] <atlfalcons866> why is ubuntu not free
[16:01] <Quak3r> :D
[16:01] <dgjones> redl, a list of all the software that goes into ubuntu?
[16:01] <riotkittie> atlfalcons866: uh what?
[16:01] <norman> so i wont get help with my problem i see thanks
[16:01] <redl> =\
[16:01] <Quak3r> atlfalcons866, ubuntu is free
[16:01] <Quak3r> ..
[16:01] <taonari> Any idea on how to get the title bars to load on startup?  Compiz was removed from this 7.10 install and I am having to start metacity manually.
[16:02] <atlfalcons866> i know ubuntu is free but why is gobuntu for free
[16:02] <atlfalcons866> more free
[16:02] <Quak3r> more free
[16:02] <Quak3r> lol
[16:02] <Quak3r> :D
[16:02] <Quak3r> !
[16:02] <sacater> atlfalcons866: oooh
[16:02] <riotkittie> err.
[16:02] <sacater> atlfalcons866: gobuntu contains nothing but open source software
[16:02] <darkmatter> atlfalcons866: ubuntu contains restricted (ala closed license software)
[16:03] <sacater> closed source free software is not in there
[16:03] <norman> damn no one can help me with ubuntu 7.10
[16:03] <Quak3r> gobuntu is something as like as a ubuntu-gentoo :D
[16:03] <norman> ?
[16:03] <atlfalcons866> does that mean there are less drivers in it
[16:03] <norman> please
[16:03] <keitherz> why wont my mysql start
[16:03] <dgjones> atlfalcons866, ubuntu can include closed source software eg RAR as an example
[16:03] <Quak3r> I cannot use MSN -> someone helps me out pls . . ty
[16:03] <Quak3r> ..
[16:03] <redl> =\
[16:03] <atlfalcons866> alright thanks everyone
[16:03] <nox-Hand> Quak3r: No it is not.
[16:04] <ryan_> Yay, I fixed Gnome. Thanks guys.
[16:04] <nox-Hand> Quak3r: Gobuntu is Ubuntu cleansed of all proprietary things. i.e 100% open source.
[16:04] <sacater> Quak3r: what client are you using right now?
[16:04] <kimguru87> hey guys previously i had created backup of all programs with apt on cd now i have restore them in fresh installation of feisty but when i use apt-get to install them they try to connect internet.
[16:04] <brado> norman, I fixed your problem.  Try turning it off and on again.
[16:04] <dbc00ps> why does bcm4303 (broadcom wireless) see wireless networks in gutsy using bcm43xx-fwcutter, but will not connect to any of them?
[16:04] <kimguru87> how can i install them
[16:04] <keitherz> ikona it still wont start
[16:04] <norman> how did u made it?
[16:05] <norman> i dont believe
[16:05] <ToHellWithGA> my panels disappeared when i restarted my computer.  64-bit ubuntu gutsy running on a macbook
[16:05] <brado> I can't fix your personal problems, only computer problems.
[16:05] <buzzed> how do i startup to the commandline my xorg.conf is messed up? safe mode
[16:05] <redl> хмм
[16:05] <redl> hmm
[16:05] <ashfaq> Friends, help me out to install lexmark z513 printer in Gutsy, please!
[16:06] <redl> do ubuntu developers have svn or cvs?
[16:06] <norman> of course i know that
[16:06] <dbc00ps> ashfaq: what have you tried already?
[16:06] <norman> but i dont really even know what my problem is
[16:06] <keitherz> ok its fixed i forgot to change the bind address
[16:06] <norman> so how could u fixed it
[16:06] <ashfaq> Well The printer icon is showing in the desktop, I had selected z51 series which was listed
[16:06] <Bonster> hola
[16:07] <Pici> redl: Launchpad integrates with bazaar, so I guess they are using that.
[16:07] <VeganCheesesteak> hi all. what is the cli command for showing the distro information....i cant remember or find it on google...
[16:07] <dbc00ps> ashfaq: have you tried adding printer through the dialog?
[16:07] <kimguru87> hey guys previously i had created backup of all programs with apt on cd now i have restore them in fresh installation of feisty but when i use apt-get to install them they try to connect internet.
[16:07] <ashfaq> When I give print command nothing happens, I was advised to re start system I did it five times but the results are same
[16:07] <Biju> if I were to install a package in Ubuntu is there any way I could get the list of files (dependancies) as some kind of text file so I can download them off the net from an internet cafe?
[16:07] <brado> norman, you're starting to work out my problem
[16:07] <dbc00ps>  why does bcm4303 (broadcom wireless) see wireless networks in gutsy using bcm43xx-fwcutter, but will not connect to any of them?
[16:08] <kimguru87> anyone having apt on cd experience
[16:08] <ashfaq> dbc00ps:  Which dialogs, I will try, just tell me the sequences
[16:08] <kilts-R-us> dbc00ps: : try turning ipv6 off
[16:08] <ToHellWithGA> buzzed: ctrl+alt+f1
[16:08] <norman> i dont understand all this things
[16:08] <IlluminaX> is 7.10 much better than 7.4
[16:08] <norman> just tell me
[16:08] <IlluminaX> er 7.04
[16:08] <dbc00ps> kilts-R-us: where do i do this?
[16:08] <ToHellWithGA> IlluminaX: it is fresher so it has more current features and bug fixes
[16:09] <dbc00ps> askfaq: im on xp unfortunately at the moment due to my wireless card problems.  should be under administration or preferences
[16:09] <IlluminaX> ok...
[16:09] <Pici> IlluminaX: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour
[16:09] <Brandon_> Do I have to put a symbolic link in rc5.d or do I have to put it in 3,4,5 to get my script to work correctly
[16:09] <CarlFK> I have 5 pdf's in a dir.  20mb each.  takes forever to display, I just want to print them, "fit to page" - is there a command line tool to do that?
[16:09] <VeganCheesesteak> i can see the debian version is 4, but i cant tell what ubuntu release...
[16:10] <zax1> i am trying to play LOTR DVD on an external dvd player on ubuntu. so far XINE GXINE VLC and TOTEM all failed to play it. i tryed downloading codecs with no success. what am i doing wrong(and more important ) what else can be done to play the DVD...
[16:10] <Pici> VeganCheesesteak: lsb_release -a
[16:10] <VeganCheesesteak> Pici:  bingo! thank you
[16:10] <zax1> windows play it with no problem what so ever, through the same DVD plyer
[16:10] <norman> brado u just wanted me out thats why i told me that right?
[16:10] <IlluminaX> Wow so all I have to do is use the update manager?
[16:10] <IlluminaX> to get 7.10?
[16:11] <IlluminaX> ha!  awesome!  Umm, so how long before MS is out of business!  :o)
[16:11] <kimguru87> hey guys previously i had created backup of all programs with apt on cd now i have restore them in fresh installation of feisty but when i use apt-get to install them they try to connect internet.how can install them without internet
[16:11] <Pici> !upgrade | IlluminaX
[16:11] <Ubotwo> IlluminaX: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:11] <ashfaq> dbc00ps:  Yeah I understand, I had checked that dialogue box, any special markings i might have missed?
[16:11] <axiom> --- Hello.. I am new to Linux, new to Ubuntu.. and now I need do software updates.. How do I choose a Download Server which is not in the Software Sources list.. My ISP runs a Linux mirrro (unmetered downloads for its customers) ??
[16:12] <dgjones> !dvd | zax1
[16:12] <Ubotwo> zax1: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:12] <arghh2d2> !ubotu unetbootin
[16:12] <Ubotwo> arghh2d2: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:12] <matt_> #join winehq
[16:12] <arghh2d2> who is ubotwo?
[16:12] <LjL> !botabuse
[16:12] <Pici> axiom: System>preferences>software sources can help you easily add new mirrors, or just directly add them to /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:12] <Ubotwo> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[16:12] <sickclown> Hello All, Does anybody feel like helping me set up MySQL
[16:12] <dbc00ps> ashfaq: i was just saying that you can add the printer through there.  once it's added it should be available for use...have you added it and it's not showing up?
[16:12] <CarlFK> kimguru87: gdebi - Simple tool to install deb files
[16:13] <zax1> dgjones: many thanks but i couldnt get  \any joy out of that help - it plays other dvds but not the lord of the ring...i am thinking maybe retail restrictions...?
[16:13] <brado> norman, I'm not google.  Try googling your problem.
[16:13] <sickclown> I get an error when I try to change the root password
[16:13] <ashfaq> dbc00ps: The printer is showing up the jobs are being cued but nothing is passed on to printer
[16:13] <Pici> !root | sickclown
[16:13] <Ubotwo> sickclown: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:13] <exodos> I have some problems with apt. Running `apt-get update` gives me: Err http: feisty Release.gpg Unable to connect to  http:
[16:13] <ikonia> sickclown don't change the root password !
[16:13] <exodos> can anyone help?
[16:14] <dgjones> zax1,  i suppose possibly it could be a restriction
[16:14] <ikonia> 16:20 < exodos> can anyone help?
[16:14] <ikonia> oopw
[16:14] <ikonia> exodos what is the problem
[16:14] <norman> but my problem is not that simple it doesnt apear in google
[16:14] <dbc00ps> !print
[16:14] <Ubotwo> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[16:14] <kilts-R-us_> exodos: try changing mirrors
[16:14] <zax1> yet i can still play it on windows...what gives ?
[16:14] <ashfaq> dbc00ps: Under lexmark the nearest I could find the matching printer was the 51 series, mine is z513
[16:14] <sickclown> But I can't get into mysql without some kind of password it says so in the ubuntu documentation
[16:14] <norman> i have tree days looking for solution
[16:15] <kimguru87> CarlFK:it has some dependency problem
[16:15] <ikonia> sickclown mysql comes without a root password, that is different than your unix password
[16:15] <sickclown> sudo mysqladmin -u root password newrootsqlpassword  is what they want me to type
[16:15] <Khamael> I need help getting a D-Link DWL-G520M Desktop adapter to work in gutsy.
[16:15] <ikonia> sickclown why is that a problem
[16:15] <sickclown> it doesn't work
[16:15] <Pici> norman: You need to actually ask a question here, we arent psychic.
[16:15] <sickclown> I can't access mysql
[16:15] <axiom> Pici - thanks I'll try that now ..
[16:15] <ikonia> sickclown is mysql running ?
[16:15] <norman> ok
[16:15] <Brandon_> pike_, hmm putting a symbolic link of the script into rc5.d doesn't run it at startup. The script works too
[16:15] <zax1> !help
[16:15] <sickclown> yes
[16:15] <Ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:15] <IlluminaX> where does firefox store bookmarks by default on 7.04?
[16:15] <ikonia> sickclown what error do you get
[16:15] <sickclown> it's listening
[16:16] <joeamine1> hi
[16:16] <sickclown> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[16:16]  * SeanTater consults his crystal ball
[16:16] <zax1> i am trying to play LOTR DVD on an external dvd player on ubuntu. so far XINE GXINE VLC and TOTEM all failed to play it. i tryed downloading codecs with no success. what am i doing wrong(and more important ) what else can be done to play the DVD...
[16:16] <joeamine1> what's the best way to access hard drive as root ?
[16:16] <tanath> gyah! my printer keeps fading to different colours!
[16:16] <ikonia> sickclown you need -p
[16:16] <Andeh> When I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic and try to talk, it says Cannot send to channel.
[16:16] <tanath> i really need it to print something right now, and it's screwing up again
[16:16] <SeanTater> joeamine1: what do you need to access? Do you want to format it?
[16:16] <tanath> ever since i upgraded to gutsy
[16:16] <sickclown> thanks ikonia i'll try it now
[16:17] <joeamine1> seanTater, no, just write and delete files
[16:17] <zax1> how come a dvd disc will play on WINDOWS and not UBUNTU ?
[16:17] <norman> there is my question
[16:17] <CarlFK> kimguru87: what is the error message?
[16:17] <tanath> i get one or two good pages sometimes, but then it fades to blue or pink or something
[16:17] <norman> are u reading ?
[16:17] <sickclown> same error
[16:17] <Pici> norman: You didnt say anything.
[16:17] <ikonia> norman ask the qustion
[16:17] <ikonia> sickclown show me the command you used
[16:17] <dbc00ps> ashfaq: lexmark z513 is supposedly unsupported in the openprinting database
[16:17] <anthony_> Hi, my screens and graphics doesnt work well when attempting to set a tft monitor as the default monitor, is it a common problem?
[16:17] <joeamine1> SeanTater, just have full access on my files and repertories as root
[16:17] <tanath> i have an hp printer.
[16:17] <sickclown> sudo mysqladmin -u root -p password newrootsqlpassword
[16:18] <tanath> can anyone help?
[16:18] <norman> ok i have 7.10
[16:18] <ikonia> sickclown show me the exact error output
[16:18] <SeanTater> joeamine1: You can give your file manager elevated privledges by executing  -> gksudo nautilis
[16:18] <CarlFK> tanath: plug it in.
[16:18] <norman> and and then i cant open files
[16:18] <dbc00ps> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Lexmark | ashfaq
[16:18] <sickclown> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[16:18] <sickclown> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[16:18] <norman> but yes aplications
[16:18] <tanath> CarlFK, funny, but this is important
[16:18] <Golumn> it is possible to compress a file in 2 parts, using tar or any other program
[16:18] <ikonia> sickclown do "mysql -u root -p"
[16:18] <Golumn> ?
[16:18] <ikonia> sickclown: does it connect ?
[16:18] <joeamine1> SeanTater, that's what i did but after 5 or 6 times, it bugs and no longer wants to launch it :S
[16:18] <benitez> hola
[16:18] <tanath> i'm trying to print an application
[16:18] <riotkittie> anthony_: yes, screens and graphics is nice in theory but so far, not so much in practice, it appears.
[16:19] <benitez> ay alguien k m haga caso?
[16:19] <norman> music for example apear like text imagen
[16:19] <swmiller> tanath: is it connected to your compuiter or over a network
[16:19] <CarlFK> tanath: then you better give a bit more info
[16:19] <norman> but tjey dont do anything
[16:19] <zax1> hmmm, should i upgrade from ubuntu to windows ?
[16:19] <tanath> swmiller, to my computer
[16:19] <ikonia> zax1 odon't be silly
[16:19] <ikonia> don't
[16:19] <anthony_> riotkittie: okay, 10x can I configure everything how i used to do manually editing the xorg.conf file ?
[16:19] <zax1> could it be that some dvds wont play on ubuntu ?
[16:19] <sickclown> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[16:19] <swmiller> tanath: what hp model
[16:19] <ikonia> zax1 no
[16:19] <tanath> CarlFK, then maybe you should have asked for more info. obviously it's plugged in if it's printing weird colours
[16:19] <Shazoor> Is there anyone to help me
[16:19] <ikonia> sickclown you already have a root password or mysql isn't listening then
[16:19] <Pici> !ask | Shazoor
[16:19] <Ubotwo> Shazoor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:19] <norman> when i try to open for example equipo it jsut apear like initializing but anything else
[16:20] <tanath> swmiller, deskjet F335
[16:20] <CarlFK> tanath: all I saw was "i have an hp"
[16:20] <norman> thats my problem
[16:20] <kimguru87> CarlFK:suppose i want gstremer bad and it says all dependencies not satisfied
[16:20] <SeanTater> joeamine1: I need more information, is this a seperate hard drive from your installation, because making it all writable to you can be a security risk.
[16:20] <zax1> ikonia: tryed playing this dvd from an external player, the disc mountok, and ican browse it but it wont play
[16:20] <swmiller> tanath: what Ubuntu version are you runnig?
[16:20] <zax1> i can play other films, but that wont
[16:20] <tanath> CarlFK, meh. if you can help, it'd be appreciated. if not, thanks anyway
[16:20] <tanath> swmiller, gutsy
[16:20] <Shazoor> Ubotwo: how do i create the following file as root : /etc/ppp/peers/gprs in Ubuntu
[16:20] <Ubotwo> Shazoor: Error: "how" is not a valid command.
[16:20] <sickclown> does this mean it's listening tcp        0      0 192.168.1.3:mysql       *:*                     LISTEN     4
[16:20] <CarlFK> kimguru87: what command says "all dependencies not satisfied" ?
[16:20] <tanath> swmiller, for the past few months. it was fine on feisty though
[16:21] <atouk> sickclown -->  http://community.postnuke.com/Article1273.htm
[16:21] <ikonia> sickclown ahhhhh hang on
[16:21] <norman> we can use remote conetion i just want my solution man
[16:21] <stian> hi, I am whitout my cd-rom, and i need to mount a cd so it's look lika a real one, ( windows xp ) I'm testing out vmware..
[16:21] <ikonia> sickclown: be with you in a second
[16:21] <Shazoor> Ubotwo: please tell me how do i create the following file as root : /etc/ppp/peers/gprs using terminal
[16:21] <Ubotwo> Shazoor: Error: "please" is not a valid command.
[16:21] <SeanTater> joeamine1: maybe it would be easier to answer "does the path to the folder start in /media or /mnt ?)
[16:21] <Pici> stian: Are you running Windows or Ubuntu? Thisis the Ubuntu support channel.
[16:22] <kilts-R-us_> stian: you can mount an iso from within vmware
[16:22] <dbc00ps> ubuntu != windows?
[16:22] <Pici> Shazoor: sudo touch /etc/ppp/peers/gprs
[16:22] <dbc00ps> im confused
[16:22] <stian> Pici, : I am using ubuntu now
[16:22] <LjL> Shazoor: doesn't the "Error: please is not a valid command" hint that ubotwo might possibly be a robot?
[16:22] <norman> sickclown did u red what i sayd
[16:22] <norman> ?
[16:22] <ikonia> sickclown mysql is not listening on localhost
[16:22] <Pici> !iso > stian (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:22] <ikonia> sickclown: its listening on 192.x.x.x.x only
[16:22] <Golumn> is it possible to compress a file in 2 parts, using tar or any other program
[16:22] <stian> Killts-R-us : how ?
[16:22] <Shazoor> Pici: please come to private for 2 minutes
[16:22] <dbc00ps> if youre using please, and your computer is mean, s/he is cranky
[16:22] <sickclown> i read norman
[16:22] <zax1> can you all be quiet for a second and listen only to me?
[16:22] <LjL> Shazoor: anyway, sudo nano /etc/ppp/peers/gprs
[16:22] <norman> and...?
[16:23] <atouk> sickclown, you may also want to install phpmyadmin
[16:23] <lonran_> whats the folder of plugins for pidgin?
[16:23] <zax1> i am not used to so many people talking and definetly not used to all attention not being given to me
[16:23] <tanath> Golumn, rar certainly supports tht
[16:23] <zax1> !!!
[16:23] <dbc00ps> zax1: if youre being serious, you have to be kidding...
[16:23] <stian> Pici: thanks
[16:23] <zax1> aaaaaaaaaa - i want my dvd to play, what do i do
[16:23] <kilts-R-us_> stian: by changing the cd rom setting on the setup page to read from an iso image and not an actual cd
[16:23] <Pici> Shazoor: sure.. send me a pm.
[16:23] <sickclown> ok thanks
[16:23] <zax1> dbc00ps: :P
[16:24] <zax1> it seemed  to have almost worked though :) now all we need is a solution
[16:24] <zax1> retail DVD plays on windows but not ubuntu
[16:24] <IlluminaX> Can I import my favorites from windows ie from firefox by just copying the folder of Favorites.  I didn't export them from IE and it's too late.
[16:24] <zax1> other compressed dvd play just fine
[16:24] <zax1> what gives ~?
[16:25] <obiwan_72> appero'
[16:25] <kilts-R-us_> zax1: you using compiz?
[16:25] <stian> kilts-R-us, : I see, I found it. THANKS!
[16:25] <SeanTater> zax1: That's what happens with encrypted DVD's, let me find the factiod to fix it
[16:25] <Golumn> tanath: I am trying to compress a dvd iso in 2 files
[16:25] <kilts-R-us_> stian: no problem
[16:25] <zax1> my hero sean tater
[16:25] <zax1> kilts-R-us no, never heard of ...gogling just a moment
[16:25] <SeanTater> zax1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[16:26] <Golumn> I had been looking all over the internet but don't find nothing about that
[16:26] <tanath> Golumn, doesn't matter what you're trying to compress
[16:26] <SeanTater> zax1: it happens to everyone --
[16:26] <neverblue> im wearing a kilt today
[16:26] <DarkJedi375> days you rock a kilt are always good days
[16:26] <atouk> if it's too cold, i'd bet they're blue today
[16:26] <SeanTater> zax1: while you are at it, you might find this entire section helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:26] <Golumn> tanath: may you guide me with that
[16:26] <norman> damn im just wanting a solution of my stupid problem but no how can some one help me
[16:27] <neverblue> norman, we are volunteers
[16:27] <zax1> many thanks, if you were any closer i'd B
[16:27] <tanath> Golumn, honestly, i haven't used that feature, except once or twice on windows, but that was years ago. you could try googling it
[16:27] <zax1> owe
[16:27] <zax1> oops sorry
[16:27] <norman> but i always do my questionand nothing back
[16:27] <Pici> !enter | norman
[16:27] <Golumn> I am trying to do it on ubuntu
[16:27] <zax1> many thanks, if you were any closer i'd Blow you right now
[16:27] <Ubotwo> norman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:27] <tanath> Golumn, but many people use RAR to split files
[16:28] <dgjones> norman, you need to give more details so that people can see what you're doing, what errors you're getting etc
[16:28] <norman> ok the error window is blank
[16:29] <W1ZrD> How can I unzip a .zip file from cmdline?
[16:29] <norman> and i cant open anthing exepting the nautilus
[16:29] <ikonia> W1ZrD unzip $file
[16:29] <W1ZrD> oh, lol
[16:29] <norman> no music of files just aplications
[16:29] <norman> thats my problem about
[16:29] <norman> any idea?
[16:29] <neverblue> norman, explain your question, in one post, not many, and give as much detail as you can.  When asked a question, answer it directly, so the process will go smoother, and easier for all assisting
[16:30] <norman> yes i now but im a now user thats why i cant well explain y
[16:30] <norman> man im really frustrated
[16:30] <norman> i have 3 days on this thing
[16:30] <neverblue> take a breather, then come back to the computer
[16:31] <Quak3r> I need help with MSN on ubuntu 7.10-- gaim, pidgin and amsn and icqcenter and emesene are not working !
[16:31] <norman> oh man
[16:31] <tanath> my printer is on the fritz, and i really need to get it working now. it keeps fading to blue or pink or whatever. it's an HP deskjet f335. can anyone help?
[16:31] <norman> i did it man can u help me in some way?
[16:32] <dgjones> tanath, sounds like the ink cartridges are running out
[16:32] <xiven> Hello
[16:32] <tanath> dgjones, unlikely. it's pretty new. and it still prints the first page or two fine sometimes after it's been off for a bit
[16:32] <Khamael> can anybody help me using "madwifi"?
[16:32] <xiven> Why is Ubuntu Live giving me a consolescreen that says job Control off...with a prompt (initrmfs)?
[16:32] <tanath> dgjones, i haven't printed all that much
[16:33] <Quak3r> norman, sorry
[16:33] <Nyrl_Anizee> dgjones, Id have to agree that its a printer issue
[16:33] <dgjones> tanath, could be a blockage in the cartridge then, i';ve seen that, when its not used the ink accumulates so that the first couple of pages print, then it runs dry & needs time to build up enough for another page
[16:33] <norman> we can use remote conection if anyone wants
[16:33] <xiven> How do I get Job Control back on, so mmy live desktop will boot?
[16:34] <norman> i just want to have ubuntu working fine
[16:34] <tanath> dgjones, damn. anything i can do about that?
[16:34] <dgjones> norman, people need more detail, eg. which version of ubuntu you're using, do you get any errors when you startup the computer etc
[16:35] <dgjones> tanath, i'd take the cartridge back to the shop, only thing i can think of
[16:35] <tanath> gah
[16:35] <amarillion> Hey, I have a question. Is it considered a bad idea to do security updates automatically via a cron job?
[16:35] <norman> no i dont get any error and i have 7.10
[16:36] <tanath> amarillion, you can set the update manager to to them automatically
[16:36] <Shazoor> pikPici: r u there
[16:36] <tanath> amarillion, there's a pref/setting for thta
[16:36] <Shazoor> Pici: r u there
[16:36] <amarillion> tanath, so it's ok then? I'm managing a few ubuntu servers too
[16:36] <norman> and the problem apears when i have like 3 hours
[16:36] <Pici> Shazoor: I'm here...
[16:37] <tanath> amarillion, i'm saying you shouldn't have to do anything manually with cron or anything. just check the settings in the update manager, or Synaptic
[16:37] <norman> some one told me that i was a problem with ubuntu 7.10 and the ram settings
[16:37] <ZeuGiRDoR> where can I found a dwg file viewer packed for ubuntu?
[16:37] <norman> and told me that the programers of ubuntu didnt have that thats solved
[16:38] <norman> no one seems to have the same problem
[16:39] <frojnd> hello my fallows
[16:39] <frojnd> I have a problem
[16:40] <stian> someone who know how to switch between OS in vmware workstation ?
[16:40] <sm> morning all.. I need help getting past a gdm startup problem
[16:40] <frojnd> I used wifi and now I'm on a wired network and I don't know how to connect. I set IPs and everythinb but it won't connect.
[16:40] <norman> i dont see anwers...
[16:40] <norman> im like lost
[16:40] <sm> all was working fine until yesterday. I rebooted, it did a disk check (possibly deleting some files ?) and now gdm hangs with 100% cpu trying to open some file
[16:41] <sm> how do I fix it ?
[16:41] <norman> answers oh man
[16:41] <graham_> is their a hot key to switch between workspaces?
[16:41] <sm> graham_: you can configure one in preferences keyboard shortcuts
[16:41] <rhalff> graham_: ctrl+alt+arrow
[16:42] <graham_> thank you sm and rhalff
[16:43] <xiven> Hello?
[16:43] <xiven> What is Job Control?
[16:43] <rhalff> I love the windowskey+tab thing with Compiz and Desktop Wall though :D
[16:44]  * N3bunel saluta
[16:44] <mahone> Hi everybody, I'd like to change the boot splash image of my Ubuntu installation...I know I have to modify the /boot/initrd image, and I've done it in the past, but I don't remember anymore how to do it...
[16:44] <tanath> my printer config (adding a printer) shows 5 identical drivers... how do i choose the right one?
[16:44] <fdr> !tor
[16:44] <Ubotwo> Factoid tor not found
[16:44] <graham_> is their a way to get more work spaces
[16:44] <graham_> like 4
[16:45] <arghh2d2> can anyone explain to me what i need to enter on lines 4 and 5 of step 3 of this install tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux  .  I'm trying to load an iso, on (hd0,2) but i'm not sure about the other syntax following the path.  thnks
[16:45] <tanath> the first one says (recommended), but appears no different from the rest
[16:45] <genii> sm: Maybe boot into Recovery kernel, make sure updates/upgrades are finished from apt-get. Then dpkg-reconfigure gdm     after which telinit 2 to see if the gui system can start as normal
[16:45] <norman> no one thinking on my solution?
[16:45] <aie93_> hey, i was just wondering if someone could help me with an issue I'm having running a program called "qlc" it can't access /dev/rtc, and neither can anything else... it says Device or Resource Busy
[16:46] <genii> aie93_: That device is the RealTime Clock of your computer
[16:46] <timbuktu> nepia
[16:46] <fdr> !dm-crypt
[16:46] <aie93_> genii: I found that out, but qlc needs access to the rtc, it exists but no modules to do with it seem to be loaded
[16:46] <Ubotwo> Factoid dm-crypt not found
[16:46] <timbuktu> xau
[16:47] <timbuktu> hello peolple
[16:47] <timbuktu> ping  to android
[16:48] <arun_> how much time might the upgrade to gutsy take on a 256kb/s connection? also, if i have to do a clean re-install how do i go about it? I have a separate /home partition, which I'd like to retain with the new install as well
[16:48] <aie93_> arun_: the upgrade should take about half an hour to download i'd say
[16:49] <arun_> aie93_: alright, thanks. seems quick. what about the re-install/
[16:49] <aie93_> genii: the file /dev/rtc does exist, but i ran fuser -av /dev/rtc and it says nothing has it open, so how can it be busy?
[16:49] <graham_> is their a way to get more work spaces, perhaps 4
[16:49] <xiven> What is Job Control, and why is Ubuntu Live saying its turned off?
[16:49] <bsdunix> could someone please assist me with a probably simple issue with my being new to ubuntu?
[16:49] <CochiseIRL> graham_, in ubuntu or xbuntu?
[16:49] <graham_> ubuntu
[16:49] <aie93_> arun_: a re-install will take about the same ammount of time to acutally install, btu probably take about 1 hour to download the iso, then you have to burn it
[16:50] <CochiseIRL> graham_, down the bottom left where your switcher is right click and click preferances
[16:50] <arun_> aie93_: i mean, how do i retain my /home partition and all the stuff in it with a clean re-install?
[16:50] <pejo_> hm. i have a question about ifconfig. When i type ifconfig i get some output, one line says "RX bytes". Does this line specify how many bytes that has been sent to internet?
[16:50] <jaldhar> Hello. Has anyone tried to install vmware 5.5.5 on gutsy?  I get errors in the vmmon module
[16:50] <aie93_> arun_: you do get a neater system after a re-install though, and all the features of gutsy are installed onto your user by default
[16:50] <genii> aie93_: You may be running a preemptive or realttime kernel. what does uname -a  report?
[16:50] <CochiseIRL> jaldhar, on the forums theres a script to install vmware server
[16:50] <aie93_> jaldhar: I installed vmware on my server, it seems to work fine with gutsy
[16:51] <aie93_> genii: Linux indego 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:51] <CochiseIRL> graham_, did that work?
[16:51] <PrMoriarty> hello
[16:51] <graham_> yes thank you CochiseIRL
[16:51] <genii> Hmm no preempt or rtlinux kernel there then.
[16:51] <PrMoriarty> i have a little probleme all my window minimized in my tool bar are so smal
[16:51] <CochiseIRL> graham_, no problem we were all new once
[16:51] <jaldhar> CochiseIRL, aie93_ : thanks.  This is  workstation I should add but I'll check out the forum
[16:51] <PrMoriarty> and i can t see what is their tittle
[16:51] <graham_> =]
[16:52] <arun_> aie93_: if i upgrade i won't have the new features of gutsy installed by default?
[16:52] <PrMoriarty> do you know how i can maximize the size for a window reduced
[16:52] <aie93_> genii: I'm running an out of the box version of gutsy installed from the final release iso
[16:52] <graham_> Can anyone suggest a good PHP editor? I heard Kate is good
[16:52] <RedBand> i'm trying to install os x. can gparted format my drive in hfs?
[16:52] <CochiseIRL> jaldhar, i couldnt get version 6 to work so i just went with vmware server instead
[16:52] <keitherz> anyone know a program to watch what people connected to my ssh doing
[16:52] <CochiseIRL> graham_, bluefish
[16:52] <tanath> PrMoriarty, right click on the panel, click properties & check size.
[16:52] <genii> aie93_: Wait, you can't get /dev/rtc from gutsy running inside a vm?
[16:52] <graham_> ok
[16:52] <graham_> thnx again CochiseIRL
[16:52] <norman> i think i know what i have to do
[16:52] <bsdunix> with FreeBSD, when I am thinking of adding to my system... say... a snes emulator, i just go to /usr/ports/games, find what i want, make install clean. with ubuntu, how do i find what i don't know the package name for?
[16:52] <pejo_> graham_: emacs is good, slow to load, but once you start it, you never need to close it
[16:52] <wirechief_> keitherz: try tripwire
[16:52] <arun_> professor moriarty :)
[16:52] <aie93_> arun_: no you won't have them installed on your user.. you'll need to add them to your panels manually, the applications will be installed though
[16:52] <norman> get back to windows
[16:52] <keitherz> ill try
[16:53] <graham_> pejo_, would it still be slow on 2gb of ram? or is it just generally slow
[16:53] <arun_> aie93_: could you please elaborate?
[16:53] <aie93_> genii: no, it's not in a vm...
[16:53]  * N3bunel brb
[16:53] <tanath> PrMoriarty, mines @ 24
[16:53] <pejo_> graham_: yea, loading takes a while even on fast machine, but once it up and running its nice
[16:54] <aie93_> arun_: the desktop switcher and the search deskapplet aren't on your user panels because you will already have a user setup, i'm not sure if it affects anything else, all i know is that i did an upgrade and it booted much slower than when i re-installed
[16:54] <aninhumer> bsdunix, you can search and browse the repos in synaptic, or aptitude if you like cli
[16:54] <CochiseIRL> i use xchat what other are there? but that dont use kde libarys
[16:54] <Pici> CochiseIRL: xchat doesnt use kde libraries.
[16:54] <aie93_> genii: could it have anything to do with my processor?
[16:54] <bruenig> aninhumer, apt-get on cli is safer
[16:55] <arun_> aie93_: if i re-install, how do i retain my /home partition and all the stuff in it? do i need to do anything specific during the installation process?
[16:55] <bsdunix> aninhumer: so man aptitude it is! i thank you very much
[16:55] <CochiseIRL> Pici, i know im just wondering what other irc clients there are that dont use kde libaries. should have made it a bit clearer
[16:55] <wirechief_> arun use manual on partitioning
[16:55] <bruenig> bsdunix, you really want to use apt-get, unless you like this: http://pastebin.ca/653424
[16:55] <genii> aie93_: Conceivably. i know that if you use kernel option   notsc (no time stamp counter) it can mess up your /dev/rtc as well
[16:55] <genii> AFK, work
[16:55] <aninhumer> bruenig, only for removing afaik, installing is okay?
[16:55] <keitherz> no tripwire isn't what i need
[16:55] <Pici> CochiseIRL: Ah. irssi, pidgin (although not great support there) and also xchat regular, not to be confused with xchat-gnome which ubuntu installs by default.
[16:55] <wirechief_> keitherz: i forget its for servers
[16:56] <keitherz> i need something to watch what they are going while connected to ssh
[16:56] <Pici> CochiseIRL: Rather, not good irc support, it does things weirdly.
[16:56] <aie93_> arun_: if you want to preserve your home you may as well just upgrade.  if you want to preserve them and they're not on a seperate partition you will have to install over your current root leaving all the current files in-place, this will be mesier than an upgrade
[16:56] <bsdunix> aninhumer: now checking url w/ lynx
[16:56] <sam_> I'm trying to install some custom GIMP brushes on feisty - which folder do I stick them in, and how can I access said folder?
[16:56] <bruenig> aninhumer, installing isn't a problem I guess, seems odd that you would use aptitude to install and then apt-get to remove when you can just do both with apt-get
[16:56] <matzino> hello
[16:56] <matzino> good afternoon
[16:56] <CochiseIRL> Pici, i dont like pidgin its one of the first things i remove. ya im using the normal xchat ill give irssi a go
[16:57] <matzino> someone knows how to set the contacts in pidgin showed by emain
[16:57] <aninhumer> bruenig, you can browse the tree with aptitude tho
[16:57] <matzino> someone knows how to set the contacts in pidgin showed by email?
[16:57] <matzino> thans
[16:57] <Pici> CochiseIRL: irssi is text based, but it has a strong following, you can use it inside of screen and through ssh too.
[16:57] <matzino> thanks
[16:57] <wirechief_> keitherz: maybe someone from mod_security might know.
[16:57] <keitherz> where?
[16:57] <sam_> I'm trying to install some custom GIMP brushes on feisty - which folder do I stick them in, and how can I access said folder?
[16:57] <wirechief_> keitherz: maybe someone from mod_security might know.  try google for their forums
[16:57] <prak> !codec
[16:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:58] <matzino> someone knows how to set the contacts in pidgin showed by email?
[16:58] <Asad2005_> how to start saned? i have installed xinitd and added a service named saned
[16:58] <bsdunix> aninhumer: lol! you have what is quite possibly the funniest way of making a point. well taken. now, back to the presumption that i don't know pkg name. i do "sudo apt-get install (tab)?"...or...??
[16:58] <bruenig> bsdunix, apt-cache search foo
[16:59] <bruenig> bsdunix, apt-cache show foo, if you know foo exactly for all other information
[16:59] <Zaq> where can I find the place to select what is my default input method? or cli would be fine as well
[16:59] <aguitel> how open dwg files?
[16:59] <Zaq> I'd like to use SCIM
[16:59] <aninhumer> bsdunix, thanks I think, I'm not sure what you mean by that... :P
[16:59] <arun_> aie93_: my /home is on a separate partition
[16:59] <Pici> !scim | Zaq
[16:59] <ubotu> Zaq: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[17:00] <bsdunix> aninhumer: wonderful. i thank you for your time. i may consider the added dependancies of aptitude worth-while afterall
[17:00] <Zaq> thanks
[17:00] <sam_> I'm trying to install some custom GIMP brushes on feisty - which folder do I stick them in, and how can I access said folder?
[17:00] <graham_> right now .php files open with bluefish, how do i make them open to screem, by default
[17:00] <aie93_> arun_: that's easy then... during the install just tell it not to format the partion with your /home and tell it to "use as" /home
[17:01] <sam_> I'm trying to install some custom GIMP brushes on feisty - which folder do I stick them in, and how can I access said folder?
[17:01] <graham_> nvm got it
[17:01] <aie93_> arun_: be careful though, some things you may need aren't stored in /home like mysql databases etc
[17:01] <Zaq> ah, that doens't really answer my question sadly
[17:01] <Shinjou> ????
[17:01] <Zaq> I have scim already installed, and it works fine, I can use it
[17:01] <Zaq> but I have to select it every time I want to use it
[17:01] <CochiseIRL> is there anyway to make xchat automatically register my user name when i open it
[17:02] <bsdunix> aninhumer: :). your pastebin was of extensive aptitude dependancies list, no? if aptitude provides search of pkg universe via hierarchal structure, then that's worth it to me
[17:03] <RedBand> anyone know of a program that tells me what type of hd I have. Like pata or sata
[17:03] <aninhumer> bsdunix, I think the pastebin was bruenig...
[17:03] <Khamael> can anybody help to get madwifi to work with a D-Link DWL-G520M?
[17:03] <ikonia> RedBand open the side pannel
[17:03] <bruenig> bsdunix, that was aptitude breakage, it wanted to remove everything on the system
[17:03] <RedBand> ?
[17:03] <ikonia> RedBand lspci and check your controller
[17:04] <aninhumer> bsdunix, and I think it might have been explaining why you should avoid removing with aptitude, maybe I should look at it!
[17:04] <keitherz> anyone knows an alternative for ttysnoop
[17:04] <ikonia> keitherz what do you want to do
[17:04] <RedBand> you mean type in lspci in the terminal?
[17:04] <bsdunix> aninhumer: no. probably my bad.
[17:04] <ikonia> RedBand yes
[17:04] <keitherz> i want to watch other users connected in my ssh
[17:04] <bruenig> bsdunix, it occurs because of ubuntu's use of meta-packages which are fake packages with an enormous amount of false dependencies to group packages. apt does not have any built in grouping mechanism so that is the hackish work around and it causes problems especially when using aptitude.
[17:04] <keitherz> what they are doing
[17:05] <ikonia> keitherz if you are root you can hack a simmple script together with tee in their .ash_profile, be aware though in some environments thats considered illegal
[17:05] <ab0oo_> I'm looking for help going from "flat" to "cube" in my desktop switcher (compiz).  Any takers?
[17:05] <E_mE> im trying to install xserver-xgl into my kubuntu gutsy ... but when i write startx
[17:05] <ikonia> ab0oo_ what sort of help ?
[17:05] <keitherz> ???
[17:06] <bsdunix> aninhumer: oh. apt-cache search then, but i'd need to first google up a name?
[17:06] <RedBand> Is this what I am looking for. " IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller"
[17:06] <E_mE> it just goes to the X screen, and  doesn't load up KDE
[17:06] <ab0oo_> I've got a "flat" cube.  It switches (4 virtual desktops), but it's flat.
[17:06] <ikonia> E_mE startx uses .xinitd to tell it what to launch
[17:06] <ab0oo_> not 3d.  not like the cool screen shots, etc.
[17:06] <CochiseIRL> RedBand, do you have a windows partiton
[17:06] <Pici> ab0oo_: Are you running Gutsy?
[17:06] <ikonia> ab0oo_ you need to enable the compiz cube
[17:06] <ab0oo_> Pici: I am indeed.
[17:06] <RedBand> nope, trying to install os x wiped it off.
[17:06] <CochiseIRL> RedBand, sorry wrong person
[17:06] <aninhumer> bsdunix, aptitude might be closest to what you were describing with the bsd ports tree structure
[17:06] <Pici> !ccsm | ab0oo_ please read
[17:06] <ubotu> ab0oo_ please read: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[17:06] <xiven> Who is in here to give help?
[17:06] <keitherz> ikona i dont understand
[17:06] <E_mE> ikonia: where is .xinitd?
[17:07] <CochiseIRL> xiven, whats up
[17:07] <ab0oo_> ikonia: it is (in ccsm:  cube is enabled)
[17:07] <ikonia> E_mE .xinitrd in your home dir
[17:07] <sam_> I'm trying to install some custom GIMP brushes on feisty - which folder do I stick them in, and how can I access said folder?
[17:07] <bsdunix> aninhumer: i think i can take the chance. thanks
[17:07] <aninhumer> bsdunix, although as bruening said, it can cause issues with it's overzealous package removal, you should only remove with apt-get
[17:07] <xiven> I'm trying to boot up a Ubuntu Live CD..but it keeps saying Job Control Offand giving me a console with the prompt (initrmfs), and no commands work
[17:07] <ab0oo_> Pici: I'm way beyond that.  It's installed, enabled, themes work, but the "cube" is flat.
[17:07] <ikonia> sam_ somehere in ~/.gimp2
[17:07] <E_mE> ikonia: i haven't got it... im in kubuntu
[17:08] <aguitel> how open dwg files?
[17:08] <darthmarth37|Wk> Is the Ubuntu installer a package available in apt?
[17:08] <Pici> ab0oo_: Very odd.  I'd ask about it in #compiz-fusion
[17:08] <bsdunix> aninhumer: thanks
[17:08] <ikonia> E_mE why are you using startx - you don't have a .xinitrd because you don't need one, you only need one if your using startx
[17:08] <bsdunix> bruenig: thanks to you, too
[17:08] <CochiseIRL> sam_, open your home folder press ctrl + h to show hidden files and thereĺl be a folder called gimp2.xx inside it there is a folder called brushes put them in there
[17:08] <E_mE> ikonia: i do use startx
[17:08] <sam_> thanks
[17:08] <E_mE> ikonia: i dont use KDM
[17:08] <ab0oo_> Pici:  thanks.
[17:08] <ikonia> E_mE WHY do you use startx
[17:08] <CochiseIRL> xiven, try the alternate CD
[17:09] <xiven> Alternate CD?
[17:09] <jaldhar> wonderful.  vmware is working for me now.
[17:09] <E_mE> ikonia: because i boot streight into console... not KDM
[17:09] <xiven> I only ahve Ubuntu and Kubuntu cd's
[17:09] <CochiseIRL> xiven, its for pc that arnet compatilbe with the live cd, check the forums first tough
[17:09] <ikonia> E_mE then you need to create and populate a .xinitrd
[17:09] <Pici> darthmarth37|Wk: I *think* casper is the name of the package
[17:09] <xiven> Well the live cd has worked with this machine before
[17:09] <aninhumer> xiven, when you go to the downloads page, there are links for "desktop" and "alternate"
[17:10] <CochiseIRL> xiven, thats weird so has the hardware changed in anyway
[17:10] <xiven> Yeah
[17:10] <CochiseIRL> xiven, how has it changed?
[17:10] <E_mE> ikonia: but if im not using xserver-xgl, it boots into KDE with no problems... only when i install the xgl
[17:10] <xiven> I added a hard drive, and put the new one on primary
[17:10] <darthmarth37|Wk> I'm essentially trying to put the livecd on a hard disk for a machine with no CD drive and no PXE boot capability.
[17:10] <keitherz> ikona its not workin
[17:10] <CochiseIRL> xiven, was the old one sata or pata
[17:10] <darthmarth37|Wk> Any way to do that?  All I really need is to be able to boot and run the installer from a hard disk.
[17:10] <ikonia> E_mE maybe thats using the default
[17:11] <ikonia> keitherz what is not working ?
[17:11] <xiven> Umm
[17:11] <Profanephobia> darthmarth37|Wk, does it have a USB port?
[17:11] <xiven> sata probably
[17:11] <E_mE> ikonia: what do i need to put in my .xinitrd?
[17:11] <ikonia> darthmarth37|Wk: doesnt' really work look that
[17:11] <CochiseIRL> xiven, and the new is it sata as well
[17:11] <ikonia> E_mE something like /usr/bin/startkde
[17:11] <keitherz> sudo tee /home/$USERNAMEHERE/.ash_profile
[17:11] <darthmarth37|Wk> Profanephobia: Yes.  That's why I'm trying to get is on a USB hard drive.
[17:11] <darthmarth37|Wk> *it
[17:11] <keitherz> i even tried .bash_profile
[17:11] <generation_f> test
[17:11] <ikonia> keitherz ????? did you even look how to use tee ?
[17:11] <keitherz> ?
[17:12] <keitherz> im wrong
[17:12] <ikonia> keitherz did you look at what tee does ?
[17:12] <E_mE> ikonia: its calling Xsession
[17:12] <ikonia> E_mE ahhhh ok that explains why it worked before
[17:12] <keitherz> read from standard input and write to standard output and files
[17:12] <xiven> I think the old one was a sata
[17:12] <keitherz> its monitoring the targeted file
[17:12] <ikonia> keitherz yes, so I said "you need to put a clever scripted tee session in their .bash_profile - how do you expect that to work from what you've just done
[17:13] <E_mE> ikonia: so i create my .xinitrc in my /home/area with /usr/bin/startkde
[17:13] <xiven> The new one probably is..but maybe not
[17:13] <ikonia> E_mE sounds worth a try
[17:13] <CochiseIRL> xiven, how old is the cd your using
[17:13] <Profanephobia> darthmarth37|Wk, well your either gonna need a USB CD-ROM drive or maybe install Damn Small Linux or another small distro on a flash drive
[17:13] <xiven> It is the latest
[17:13] <E_mE> ikonia: ill try it
[17:13] <xiven> I got it like a month or two ago
[17:13] <darthmarth37|Wk> Profanephobia: Can I bootstrap Ubuntu from DSL?
[17:14] <MartinW> I wanted my computer to start in CL mode only. So I followed the advice of this http://www.plug.org/pipermail/plug/2005-October/017588.html page.  However now whenever I start Synaptic (or gdebi and a number of other programs tat run In root) I get:
[17:14] <MartinW> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.
[17:14] <MartinW> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[17:14] <Pici> !install > darthmarth37|Wk (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:14] <keitherz> ikona can i pm you
[17:14] <ikonia> MartinW synaptic is an X11 application
[17:14] <stian>  how can I convert a .bin file to a .iso file ?
[17:14] <ikonia> keitherz I'd rather you didn't
[17:14] <CochiseIRL> xiven, try a new cd might be worth it
[17:14] <MartinW> After I typed startx.
[17:14] <xiven> ok
[17:15] <MartinW> But sudo synaptic still works.
[17:15] <happosade> Hi
[17:15] <ikonia> MartinW why do you want it in command line mode if you want to use a gui ?
[17:15] <CochiseIRL> happosade, hello
[17:15] <ikonia> MartinW why make this so hard, startx is not creating your xsesssion file
[17:15] <jhaig> stian: What is the .bin file?
[17:15] <bsdunix> aninhumer: want to find an n64 emulator. "aptitude search emulators | less" = nope. "aptitude search games | less" = nope. ??
[17:15] <Profanephobia> darthmarth37|Wk, take a look at this.. you may need another computer though http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
[17:15] <happosade> Lots of people
[17:15] <MartinW> I wanted to learn CL only but switching cold turkey would be too difficult.
[17:15] <darthmarth37|Wk> Profanephobia: Thanks.
[17:15] <stian> jhaig, : a game for windows ( vmware )
[17:15] <Profanephobia> np
[17:16] <aninhumer> bsdunix, if you just run "aptitude" it launches an ncurses interface
[17:16] <MartinW> How do I start the GUI properly then?
[17:16] <ikonia> MartinW why do you disable X, why not just use a shell from within X windows
[17:16]  * N3bunel back
[17:16] <bsdunix> okay. would be nice if i spent the time to learn this app, no?
[17:16] <ikonia> MartinW you have access to the shell from within gnome/kde/flux/etc
[17:16] <aninhumer> MartinW, I think the command that the synaptic button on the menu launches is "gksudo synaptic" anyway
[17:16] <jhaig> stian: So it is a Windows binary?
[17:16] <MartinW> I made a mistake. I just don't know how to re-enable it.
[17:16] <gordonjcp> MartinW: why do you want it to be command-line only?
[17:16] <MartinW> I wanted to learn CL only but switching cold turkey would be too difficult.
[17:17] <keitherz> how can i hack .bash_profile
[17:17] <Drivas> Helo all
[17:17] <Drivas> hello, even
[17:17] <stian> jhaig, : yes
[17:17] <ikonia> MartinW just use gnome and launch a shell from within hnome
[17:17] <aninhumer> MartinW, you can load the terminal from within GNOME anyway, if you want to learn
[17:17] <jhaig> stian: Why does it need to be converted into an .iso?  I'm confused about what you are trying to do.
[17:17] <ikonia> MartinW undo what you did in the guide you posted
[17:17] <pacoloco> help... I need to conect a red to ubuntu7.04to 7.10
[17:17] <MartinW> How?
[17:17] <ikonia> pacoloco a red
[17:17] <stian> jhaig, : trying to mount it in vmware... So its a faka cdrom in windows
[17:17] <gordonjcp> MartinW: hardly worth the bother, to be honest
[17:18] <ikonia> MartinW open the guide you used and reverse everything you did
[17:18] <anna> hi
[17:18] <anna>  there
[17:18] <anna>  how can install japonese/korean/chinese fonts or characters?
[17:18] <happosade> Can you hide -!- notes whit irssi?
[17:18] <Drivas> Hmm
[17:18] <Drivas> I have a question
[17:18] <anna> i would like to be able to see those fonts
[17:18] <Drivas> why was the PPC version discontinued?
[17:18] <pacoloco> I have done the guia but I can't conect
[17:18] <Drivas> Out of curiosity
[17:18] <MartinW> update-rc.d -f gdm remove. How do I reverse this? I can't find an add anywhere.
[17:18] <jhaig> stian: OK, you might be able to use the CD creator to create a CD image.  Alternatively, you could just transfer the file onto the Windows VM.  Is it networked?
[17:19] <MartinW> I tried lots of things
[17:19] <ikonia> update-rc.d -f gdm add
[17:19] <bsdunix> aninhumer: this is perfect. thanks. seems ubuntu is so far the only easy-install non-broken linux out there. period.
[17:19] <stian> jhaig, : yes it's on network, I will try that
[17:19] <anna> that is not true Linux Mint is way better then Ubuntu
[17:19] <gordonjcp> MartinW: maybe try sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[17:19] <ikonia> anna thats personal opinion
[17:19] <jhaig> stian: Get putty for windows and then you can copy it over ssh.
[17:19] <aninhumer> bsdunix, I think aptitude is available in all debian based distros :P
[17:19] <ikonia> gordonjcp an excellent suggestion
[17:20] <gcarrillo> hi guys
[17:20] <gcarrillo> im having trouble with burning
[17:20] <gcarrillo> can somebody help me trouble shoot?
[17:20] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, with what app
[17:20] <Happosade> anna You keep Ubuntu better than Mint, but there is lots of peoples ;)
[17:20] <MilitantPotato> anna: Open synaptic, type in language-support
[17:20] <jhaig> stian: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html <- pscp is the one you will need, and you will need an ssh server running on the Linux side.
[17:20] <Drivas> ikonia: So is 'seems ubuntu is so far the only easy-install non-broken linux out there. period.'
[17:20] <anna> Maybe ,but with linux mint i don't have restless to install codecs or flash
[17:20] <anna> ok
[17:20] <Drivas> to be fair
[17:20] <anna> thx
[17:20] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: i just tried to burn the gutsy live cd with growisofs
[17:20] <aninhumer> MartinW, if you didn't have anything important you might want to consider reinstalling, as easier than reverting changes
[17:20] <ikonia> Drivas yes, I agree
[17:20] <Profanephobia> !o4o > anna Happosade
[17:21] <markl_> anna: linux mint is the Ultimate distro
[17:21] <Oscar_Acosta> hi
[17:21] <stian> jhaig, : thanx
[17:21] <bsdunix> aninhumer: ah, but my first attempt to get to know debian proper was overwhelming. slackware was very good, but seemed a bit bare-bones-you're-on-your-own
[17:21] <ivanneto> My Ubuntu box has just one NIC. However, ifconfig shows it as eth1, and not eth0. Any ideas why?
[17:21] <Happosade> Linux ultimate :P
[17:21] <MilitantPotato> Drivas: Ubuntu is broken if you have an ATI card and use proprietary drivers (3d accell)
[17:21] <anna> for sure,but i still use Ubuntu dual boot
[17:21] <MartinW> I'm downloading the update now.
[17:21] <Oscar_Acosta> Where do I add options to modules that get loaded (especially usbhid in this case)?
[17:21] <MilitantPotato> Drivas: but as soon as ATI upgrades to SLUB the issue will be gone.
[17:21] <Drivas> MilitantPotato: Indeed
[17:21] <ikonia> ivanneto /etc/network/interfaces assigns it
[17:21] <MartinW> Not update!! GDM Sorry! Freudian slip.
[17:21] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: since updating to gutsy im getting scsi errors from command line burn tools
[17:22] <ivanneto> ikonia: in /etc/network/interfaces it's configured as etho!
[17:22] <MilitantPotato> Not having standby is a big let down in gutsy
[17:22] <Jimdb> anyone know how to reset the xine audio subsystem without rebooting?
[17:22] <johnficc1> what doees it mean if I do ndiswrapper -l and I get net8185x64 : driver installed
[17:22] <johnficc1>         device (10EC:8185) present (alternate driver: r8180)
[17:22] <gcarrillo> but my burner is ATA/SATA
[17:22] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, pastebin the errors and send me a link
[17:22] <MilitantPotato> but otherwise I'm very happy with the useability
[17:22] <gcarrillo> ok
[17:22] <ikonia> ivanneto sitck the output of ifconfig -a in the pastebin
[17:23] <johnficc1> what does present (alternate driver: r8180) mean?
[17:23] <Drivas> MilitantPotato: Ubuntu is also broken if you try and use 7.04 and above on PPC
[17:23] <PyroSama> How do I add a network device to ubuntu?
[17:23] <Drivas> I was wondering why they discontinued?
[17:23] <aninhumer> Jimdb, I don't think xine is an audio subsystem, most systems use alsa, the command to restart is "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils resart" (I think)
[17:23] <Pici> !ppc | Drivas
[17:23] <ubotu> Drivas: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[17:23] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42829/
[17:23] <gcarrillo> i think i did that right
[17:23] <Drivas> Pici oops
[17:23] <aninhumer> Jimdb, restart even, if it isn't alsa utils, you can tab complete after alsa
[17:24] <ikonia> ivanneto check out /etc/iftab
[17:24] <Drivas> hmm
[17:24] <Drivas> I did not know there was a port
[17:24] <Drivas> that is very helpful
[17:24] <Drivas> :)
[17:24] <Happosade> Hey, if Ubuntu say after some update "boot your computer", do Ctrl + alt + backspace do same think?
[17:24] <ivanneto> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d268c7e6d
[17:24] <Happosade> *thing
[17:25] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  how do i determine the card.  it wants the card to complete the command
[17:25] <ivanneto> ikonia, will do it.
[17:25] <PyroSama> How do I add network devices? I have a computer that only has local loopback and nothing else under if config
[17:25] <keito> gparted keeps searching forever, is there any way to just check if my hdd works?
[17:25] <ivanneto> ikonia, there's no /etc/iftab in my machine.
[17:25] <aninhumer> Jimdb, it shouldn't do that, it sounds like your alsa setup may be broken or possibly you're using a different sound architecture
[17:25] <Pici> Jimdb: asoundconf -l should list the cards, I'm not sure if it uses the same identifier for the restart command though]
[17:26] <ikonia> ivanneto what version of ubuntu are you using
[17:26] <MilitantPotato> keito:  my gparted does that now also, really annoying.
[17:26] <ivanneto> ikonia, 7.10
[17:26] <keito> :(
[17:26] <Happosade> Works Ubuntu whit IR/Laset keyboard?
[17:26] <aninhumer> Happosade, it depends, if it is a kernel update, it won't some others will
[17:26] <Happosade> aninhumer, thanks
[17:26] <keito> my hdd should be present, because it was detected in the bios
[17:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[17:26] <keito> i've just built this computer
[17:27] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to do a "apt-get build-dep linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic" and I get a lot of 404 errors, installing a package from the same archive works fine though, any ideas anyone?
[17:27] <Happosade> MilhousePunkRock, Hello
[17:27] <aninhumer> Happosade, if it is a kernel update, just ignore the icon until you turn your computer off :P
[17:27] <MilitantPotato> keito is it formatted and partioned?
[17:27] <ivanneto> ikonia, my ubuntu was installed in another machine. I had to take the disk with ubuntu and use it in another machine. In this new machine the first network card appears as eth1.
[17:27] <bsdunix> MilitantPotato: now wait just one minute! "MilitantPotato"?? lol. good one
[17:27] <pakatatu> how i see the version of ubuntu ?
[17:27] <keito> MilitantPotato: nope, that was what i intended to do now. it's brand new
[17:27] <Happosade> aninhumer, or restart :)
[17:27] <Pici> pakatatu: lsb_release -a
[17:27] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  what happened was that I had amarok playing tunes.  I then went into a website that had a youtube video.  It had no sound so I stopped amarok and reloaded the page.  it reloaded and began playing.  then it stopped responding.  i left it alone to give the page time to respond in firefox.  firefox, after about 10 minutes began playing the video again with sound.  now I can't get amarok to play even though that page is no longer
[17:27] <pakatatu> thks :)
[17:27] <bsdunix> ^ good gracious!
[17:28] <MilitantPotato> keito wait gparted out
[17:28] <aninhumer> Happosade, if you want, but it's not necessary
[17:28] <steven_> Hi
[17:28] <rellik_> anyword on vmware-player in ubuntu?  last I heard it was taken out of gutsy
[17:28] <MilitantPotato> keito: it takes 5 or so minutes for me, but it eventually shows the drives
[17:28] <keito> MilitantPotato: ok, thanks. i'll try that
[17:28] <Happosade> aninhumer, ok
[17:29] <keito> oh wait
[17:29] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  the command states it wants the card.  jimbo@Gutsy32-X2:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils resart nvidia
[17:29] <Jimdb> Usage: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils {start [CARD]|stop [CARD]|restart [CARD]|reset [CARD]}
[17:29] <Jude> Hi everybody
[17:29] <keito> the installer was actually able to find my hdd. i thought it was just another parted gui like gparted
[17:29] <keito> then it should be okay
[17:30] <MilitantPotato> you're on a liveCD?
[17:30] <Jude> i have just installed ubuntu, i'm new in Linux/ubuntu
[17:30] <keito> yup ;)
[17:30] <keito> going to install ubuntu now
[17:30] <Lawke> how can I search the repos in the terminal ??
[17:30] <MilitantPotato> Ah, cool,  yea go that route :)
[17:30] <Jude> and i cant hear music
[17:30] <MilitantPotato> Hey jude, hope ya have some patience :)
[17:30] <Jude> yeah
[17:30] <Jude> so what sould i do
[17:31] <MilitantPotato> Jude: is it working allright for you?
[17:31] <keitherz_>  why wont ls show hidden files and the permissions
[17:31] <aninhumer> Jimdb, I don't know much about the sound architecture, I just know how to restart it
[17:31] <Jude> to fix that
[17:31] <aninhumer> Jimdb, wait did you put "nvidia" in you command?
[17:31] <gordonjcp> keitherz_: because ls -l does that
[17:31] <MilitantPotato> Jude: sit in this room :D
[17:31] <Happosade> Do Ubuntu handel NAS-works. Whit some IRC-system too. Have to IRC whit my phone :D
[17:31] <keitherz_> oh ok
[17:31] <Jimdb> yes, and tried other ways to tell it which device.
[17:31] <Lawke> how can I search a program with sudo apt-get in the repos??
[17:31] <toplok> how to launch bittorrent application from the terminal window ? where is it located ? thx
[17:31] <steven_> Hi, i'm on a laptop with a widescreen moditor, i've ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and chosen all available resolutions and enabled nvdia driver from restricted manager, but in System/Preferences/Resolution i can choose only between: "1024x768" "800x600" and "640x480" at 50Hz... xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42831/
[17:32] <gordonjcp> Lawke: do you mean search the repos for a program?
[17:32] <mjbunink> Hi all, I hope someone can help me... I have a fresh Gutsy install, and apt-got Thunderbird. But after starting, the app just dies on me, without reason. Does anyone know what I should do?
[17:32] <Lawke> gordonjcp, yes
[17:32] <MilitantPotato> steven_:  what laptop and model?
[17:32] <Lawke> but in the terminal..
[17:32] <Jude> Militant Potato, where can i change room please?
[17:32] <MilitantPotato> jude, type /join #roomname
[17:32] <steven_> HP Pavillon dv6000 series
[17:32] <uu8> why am i getting this error
[17:32] <uu8> checking for XV... configure: error: Package requirements (xv >= 0.22)
[17:32] <uu8> were not met:
[17:32] <Jude> thanks a lot
[17:33] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: I have had this before, go to the system settings and choose/detect the monitor, and you will be able to pick the correct resolution
[17:33] <gordonjcp> Lawke: you don't use apt-get, you use "apt-cache search" for that
[17:33] <aninhumer> Jimdb, that shouldn't be necessary, (the [] mean an optional argument) all I can guess is that your sound hasn't been setup properly somewhere...
[17:33] <Happosade> toplok try type BitTorrent (or another bittorrent app name, like qTorrent)
[17:33] <Lawke> gordonjcp, thx
[17:33] <aninhumer> Jimdb, I'm assuming you did try it without any argument after "restart"
[17:33] <Qwexer> hello all, I'm looking for a command in terminal to search for a specific file, any suggestions?
[17:33] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  i have an x-fi card in there as well that linux doesn't know what to do with.
[17:34] <Jude> Militant Potato, it doesnt work
[17:34] <Jude> where sould i type that?
[17:34] <principeb13> #ubuntu-br
[17:35] <aninhumer> Jimdb, if you open your System>Prefs>Sound you can see which sound cards are recognised
[17:35] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, and just to be sure your using a blank cd-r correct?
[17:35] <uu8> "checking for XV... configure: error: Package requirements (xv >= 0.22)
[17:35] <uu8> were not met:" which package does x.org need ?
[17:35] <steven_> MilhousePunkRock: tnx
[17:35] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: Did it work?
[17:35] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: correct, blank dvd-r actually
[17:36] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: burning worked in feisty
[17:36] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, do you have a GUI enabled?
[17:36] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  the x-fi card is not recognized under linux.  there are no 32 bit drivers for it from creative.  i just haven't taken the time to remove the card from the computer once I found out that linux does not support that card at all.
[17:36] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: but it appears as though the modules were different for the cdrom
[17:36] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: yes
[17:36] <Downix> ok, my ubuntu install seems to keep idling out... bizzare
[17:36] <MilhousePunkRock> So any ideas on my error 404?
[17:36] <darthmarth37|Wk> Where would I find the livecd's vmlinuz and syslinux.cfg files in the Ubuntu archives?
[17:37] <aninhumer> Jimdb, if your normal card is recognised all you should have to do is "...alsa-utils restart", if there are further problems than that, I'm not sure I can help you sorry :/
[17:37] <void^> uu8: perhaps libxv-dev, the documentation for the software you're trying to compile should come with a list of dependencies.
[17:37] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, have you tried right-clicking the ISO and in the context menu selecting "Write to Disk"?
[17:37] <gordonjcp> MilhousePunkRock: what was the question?
[17:37] <uu8> thanks void^ i'll try that and report back
[17:37] <snkmad> how do i configure my mic? i think its not working
[17:37] <jstritar> is there a way to use something like "/dev/null" as the X11 display for an application? I don't want the UI for the application to be displayed at all
[17:37] <Qwexer> anyone help me with my sound card not working? trying to get the integrated sound card drivers
[17:37] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: I need to build my own kernel with badram support
[17:37] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: also, other burning programs fail in different ways, e.g. one that starts with "wi" (can't remember what the command was named) fails with more scsi errors
[17:37] <Lawke> hi, I just installed Pure-FTPD, it auto started, but how do I start it the next time I log on??
[17:38] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: Following this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[17:38] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: i tried that but it wouldn't let me burn a dvd that way
[17:38] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  both cards are seen by linux.  lspci says the xfi card is there but it can't be used because there are no drivers.  the command that you gave matches the required syntax per their help message.  I pasted yours in instead of typing.  it doesn't reset and it gives that help text in response to issuing the command.
[17:38] <JimmyDee> Lawke, did it install something in init.d?
[17:38] <aninhumer> Jimdb ah, did you copy my "resart" typo? :P
[17:38] <Lawke> JimmyDee, no idea :D
[17:39] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: And and the apt-get build-dep step for the kernel-image, I get error 404 for the archive
[17:39] <Lawke> but I wanna config it a little
[17:39] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, first try using a blank cd-r instead of a dvd-r, and pastbin your fstab file so i can see what the mount options are for your drive
[17:39] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: Nevermind, it's working now..
[17:39] <MilitantPotato> MilhousePunkRock: I think ya broke steven_'s display :)
[17:39] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  lol, yep
[17:39] <snkmad> Qwexer lspci | grep Audio
[17:39] <Lawke> dunno where the Settings manager is or someting
[17:39] <JimmyDee> Lawke, terminal, cd /etc/init.d, ls pureftp*
[17:39] <gordonjcp> MilhousePunkRock: it's probably wrong then
[17:39] <aninhumer> Jimdb, does it work spelt right? :P
[17:39] <gordonjcp> MilhousePunkRock: what does "uname -r" say?
[17:40] <Jimdb> aninhumer:  amarok generates the same message.  it did reset asla but amarok still says the same thing.  i'll have to wait till later to restart the computer i guess.
[17:40] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: No, must have been something with the mirror, it's working now...
[17:40] <cleaton> Hello, is there a way to make rhythmbox minimize to trayicon when i press the close button?
[17:40] <jstritar> is there a way to use a "hidden" X11 display... I want to launch an application but not have the GUI show up
[17:40] <MilitantPotato> Jude: what room do you want to join?
[17:40] <Lawke> JimmyDee, theres a map called pureftpd in it
[17:40] <Lawke> is it that?
[17:40] <JimmyDee> lawke sudo ./pureftpd restart
[17:40] <Jude> room D as you told me
[17:40] <gordonjcp> MilhousePunkRock: check your kernel version anyway - make sure you're getting the right kernel!
[17:40] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: the only cd media i have big enough for the gutsy iso is a nonblank cd-rw, so ill have to blank it
[17:40] <Lawke> JimmyDee, but I need to find the settings of it
[17:40] <keito> i have 2 gb ram, do i even need a swap partition?
[17:41] <Lawke> where are these located?
[17:41] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: It's a fresh gutsy install, only one kernel here (except the 1. badram attempt that does not work because I mixed methods)
[17:41] <gcarrillo> is there a gui way to erase a cd?
[17:41] <aninhumer> Jimdb, ah well, the problem might not be alsa after all, the only other thing I could suggest is restarting amaroK, but you may already have done that
[17:41] <Qwexer> snkmad: ok did that in terminal and nothing
[17:41] <MilhousePunkRock> keito: It won't hurt to have one
[17:41] <JimmyDee> lawke /etc/pureftpd
[17:41] <aninhumer> Jimdb, ah well, I have pizza waiting anyway
[17:41] <Jude> in fact i see the music playing but i cant hear anything
[17:41] <aninhumer> toodles all
[17:41] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, before you try that send me ur fstab
[17:41] <bsdunix> gcarrillo: try k3b > tools
[17:41] <JimmyDee> Lawke, or /etc/pureftpd.conf
[17:41] <cleaton> Hello, is there a way to make rhythmbox minimize to trayicon when i press the close button?
[17:41] <gcarrillo> ok
[17:42] <snkmad> Qwexer hum, means it hasnt detected your sound card
[17:42] <keito> MilhousePunkRock: will a 256 MB one do then?
[17:42] <JimmyDee> Lawke, youre all set to run at restart btw
[17:42] <snkmad> Qwexer what motherboard is it?
[17:42] <MilhousePunkRock> keito: I'd make it bigger than your real RAM, in case you want to use supend-to-disk
[17:42] <cleaton> Hello, is here a way to make rythmbox to close when i press close, and not quit?
[17:42] <aninhumer> gah no pizza :( back to questions!
[17:43] <keito> MilhousePunkRock: does that work with all computers now?
[17:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Questions, aninhumer? Why is badram not included in the kernel already?
[17:43] <JimmyDee> aninhumer, www.papajohns.com
[17:43] <Jude> Militant Potato, do you have any idea on my problem?
[17:43] <aninhumer> cleaton, you mean like, minimise to tray?
[17:43] <Qwexer> snkmad: intel 440bx chipset
[17:43] <cleaton> aninhumer, yes
[17:43] <MilhousePunkRock> keito: It does on my laptop, does not (yet) on my secondary desktop, never tried on the primary desktop
[17:44] <keito> hmmmmm
[17:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Why do the kernel sources depend on latex stuff?
[17:44] <aninhumer> cleaton, I don't think there is yet, I've been clicking the tray icon instead of close button
[17:44] <Qwexer> snkmad: i'm on the alsa website with the instruction to install but I cant find the actual driver
[17:44] <Lawke> I can't write anything in files in /etc/.....
[17:44] <JimmyDee> lawke use sudo
[17:44] <aninhumer> JimmyDee, great if I lived in the US...
[17:44] <cleaton> aninhumer, ok :/ i guess i have to get used to that too
[17:44] <Lawke> JimmyDee, yeah just figured it out :D
[17:44] <snkmad> Qwexer thats an old mobo? whats your processor?
[17:44] <JimmyDee> aninhumer, then youre tsol
[17:45] <abelabel> hi, when going to system -> preferences -> sound and testing my USB sound card (that was working before upgrading to 7.10) generates a short beep, then aborts the sound settings panel. Also, trying to play music in Rhythmbox aborts the program. When using the internal sound chip, everything works fine. Any thoughts on what is going on?
[17:45] <deepfreez> Hi, i running ubuntu, how i can install essential pakets?
[17:45] <deepfreez> apt-get install build-essential?
[17:45] <toplok> where is bittorrent located ? gnome bittorrent. How to launch it ?
[17:45] <JimmyDee> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:45] <XRayMan> Hello! I recently installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell laptop. Network Manager recognized the Broadcom BCM4309. Today, it
[17:45] <Qwexer> snkmad: did the modprobe snd-intel8x0 and nothing, intel something, its my old crappy comp, only thing I had to put ubuntu on atm
[17:45] <deepfreez> JimmyDee, tnx
[17:46] <|Zippo|> somebody had troubles with samba accessing windows networks?
[17:46] <Jimme1> How do edit an environment variable
[17:46] <darthmarth37|Wk> Oh, looks like I just need the liveCD's syslinux.cfg file.  Any idea where I would find that one?
[17:46] <Davy_Jones> how can i format an external drive as FAT32?
[17:46] <darthmarth37|Wk> Jimme1: variable=value
[17:46] <XRayMan> (Sorry) Hello! I recently installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell laptop. Network Manager recognized the Broadcom BCM4309. Today, it's listing no wireless options, but iwconfig eth1 shows the adapter properly. Ideas?
[17:46] <snkmad> Qwexer its strange, such an old chip should be supported. Are you sure its enabled on the bios or jumper settings?
[17:46] <Davy_Jones> it's listed as sdd1
[17:46] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: mkdosfs /dev/sdd1
[17:46] <aninhumer> Jimme1, I think it's "export VARNAME=value"
[17:46] <Jimme1> darthmarth37|Wk, how can I show what that variable is set to currently?
[17:46] <JimmyDee> XRayMan, you have broadcom, run screaming
[17:47] <MilhousePunkRock> XRayMan: Did you manually edit something? network-manager does not like anything that's not automatic
[17:47] <darthmarth37|Wk> Jimme1: echo $variablename
[17:47] <Davy_Jones> darthmarth37|Wk: it finished so fast.. i can't believe it, i have to test this
[17:47] <MBR666> omg i'm bored of my butt
[17:47] <MBR666> stuck in the house watching the kids
[17:47] <Qwexer> snkmad: yep checked the bios already, I get the error msg no volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[17:47] <JimmyDee> install compiz thats good for hours of entertainment
[17:48] <Davy_Jones> darthmarth37|Wk: i issued fdisk -l after that command and it says it's ntfs
[17:48] <JimmyDee> not that file system!
[17:48] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: What was it before?
[17:48] <deepfreez> another question :) how i can install apache+php+mysql+and another library?
[17:48] <Davy_Jones> darthmarth37|Wk: ntfs
[17:48] <deepfreez> for website?
[17:48] <Davy_Jones> darthmarth37|Wk: i want vfat
[17:48] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: Oh, ok.
[17:48] <snkmad> Qwexer you running from the LiveCD?
[17:48] <MBR666> anyone need some help with anything?
[17:48] <cleaton> is there a way to start rythmbox in tray and make it play a song using commandline? i like to have my musicplayer in autostart
[17:48] <aninhumer> JimmyDee, wheee wobbly whooooo spinny cube :P
[17:48] <darthmarth37|Wk> The file system was changed, but the partition label wasn't.
[17:48] <Qwexer> snkmad: nope installed in Sunday
[17:49] <JimmyDee> aninhumer, go go wobbly windows gadget!
[17:49] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: Ever used fdisk before?
[17:49] <XRayMan> MilhousePunkRock: I'm asking on behalf of the user.. he said that he tried a manual configuration... I enabled "roaming", but still a right-click on NM only shows an "Enable Networking" option, not "Enable Wireless".
[17:49] <Jimme1> darthmarth37|Wk, I get nothing. I am reading from a failed GTK 2.10.14 ./configure that's still seeing the old GLIB I have, and the new GLIB I compiled, and getting confused. It says " You may also be able to fix the error by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable..." - Do you know what I should do?
[17:49] <snkmad> Qwexer try "lspci" and see if any entry related to Audio
[17:49] <Jude> may be i knock at the wrong door
[17:49] <Chamunks> Hey i have a hypothetical... If one were to use the encrypted file system install from the alternate install disk is it possible to ever allow another operating system to read the encrypted file system?
[17:49] <XRayMan> MilhousePunkRock: Nevermind... there was a delay after I enabled it.
[17:49] <Davy_Jones> darthmarth37|Wk: yes.. but with fdisk, i have to delete the partition and recreate it which i find a little stupid.. i mean formatting should be easier
[17:49] <Qwexer> snkmad: I guess I'll switch the harddrive and mem to another case/motherboard, maybe the sound is out on this MB
[17:49] <kst-> has anyone run into problems with gdesklets on gutsy? when i install from repositories and try to open the gdesklet shell, it crashes immediately again..
[17:49] <Qwexer> ok one sec
[17:49] <MilhousePunkRock> XRayMan: Try to delete the /etc/network/interfaces to begin with
[17:49] <Jude> cause nobody want to help me
[17:49] <XRayMan> MilhousePunkRock: Thanks for pointing me. :)
[17:49] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: That's an easy fix.
[17:49] <Jude> i am so sorry
[17:50] <Chamunks> Say in the case of having to forcefully reinstall
[17:50] <Qwexer> wait I've done that already nothing there
[17:50] <JimmyDee> hey jude, dont take it bad....take a sad song, and make it better
[17:50] <darthmarth37|Wk> Davy_Jones: Do fdisk /dev/sdd, and there you'll want to change the partition's system ID to 0b.
[17:50] <snkmad> Qwexer i cant really help you further than
[17:50] <aninhumer> JimmyDee, that will get old fast...
[17:50] <MilhousePunkRock> gordonjcp: So the sources will be in /usr/src? Or is that the old stuff from my first attempt?
[17:51] <snkmad> other than telling to test the sound with windows....
[17:51] <JimmyDee> aninhumer, it had to be done
[17:51] <flappie> hej folks
[17:51] <Qwexer> snkmad: np you're the first to answer me, hehe was in here for like 3 hrs last night too
[17:51] <JimmyDee> Jude, whats the issue?
[17:51] <snkmad> ok
[17:51] <Chamunks> any ideas?
[17:52] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: took a while to go thru, but here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42832/
[17:52] <aninhumer> Qwexer, the forums can be less time consuming to get answers
[17:52] <aninhumer> Qwexer, especially with more complex problems
[17:52] <flappie> I just wanted to install a .deb file and it crashed so I had to do a force quit. now If I want to install anything it wants me to reinstall the .deb but I cant do this . how can I solve this so I can run updates again and install software
[17:52] <principeb13> #ubuntu-br
[17:52] <JimmyDee> flappie, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:52] <Jude> JimmyDee, the problem is when i play any song it plays but i dont hear anything
[17:53] <Jimme1> I am reading from a failed GTK 2.10.14 ./configure that's still seeing the old GLIB I have, and the new GLIB I compiled, and getting confused. It says " You may also be able to fix the error by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable..." - Does anyone know what I should do?
[17:53] <wolfjb> I'm getting this bug trying to boot 2.6.22-14-386 in Gutsy, can't find any info about it in bugtracker is there a fix for it?BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
[17:53] <flappie> jimmyDee> ill try
[17:53] <cleaton> is there a way to start rhythmbox and make it play a song using commadnline?
[17:53] <ikonia> looks like a ram problem straight away
[17:53] <Qwexer> I'll try but I havent found any answers their either, trust me I've been to about a dozen forum sites and more last night, no worries I'll get it fixed, I found a few with the same error msg though just waiting to see if theirs is answered
[17:53] <JimmyDee> Jude, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> cleaton try rhythmbox --help   see  if it has some command line options
[17:53] <uu8> void^: now iam stuck at the following error, gutsy does not have these package versions, shat to do ?
[17:53] <uu8> configure: error: Package requirements (randrproto >= 1.2 renderproto >= 0.9.3 fixesproto >= 4.0 damageproto >= 1.1 xcmiscproto xextproto xproto >= 7.0.9 xtrans scrnsaverproto >= 1.1 bigreqsproto resourceproto fontsproto inputproto >= 1.4.2 kbproto >= 1.0.3 videoproto compositeproto >= 0.4 trapproto recordproto resourceproto xineramaproto evieproto xkbfile xfont xau fontenc pixman-1 >= 0.9.5 xdmcp) were not met:
[17:54] <aninhumer> Chamunks, I imagine it must be possible, it might be quite a complex process tho :/
[17:54] <Jude> thanks im gonna try
[17:54] <flappie> jimmyDee>it still fails
[17:54] <I-love-debian> yo mofos
[17:54] <cleaton> Dr_Willis, there isn't :(
[17:54] <gcarrillo> what module should drive the cdrom on a ATA/SATA bus?
[17:54] <JimmyDee> flappie, sudo apt-get remove --purge brokenpackage
[17:54] <skelter> any sound experts here? For some reason my audio has been really quiet. Everything (I can find) is turned up to 100% though. Is there another CP I might be missing?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> cleaton  thats odd. Most other media players ive seen have --queue and --pause and other options
[17:54] <I-love-debian> how can I get a partition on a partiton on a mnted hardrive, that i'm currently using? NTFS partiton
[17:55] <JimmyDee> flappie, where brokenpackage = your problem packagename
[17:55] <kst-> how do you get gdesklets to work with gutsy? mine crashs when i try to open the shell..
[17:55] <gcarrillo> and how can i tell which module is associated with the cdrom?
[17:55] <flappie> yes
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> I-love-debian that was a bit confusing. :) You can mount NTFS partitions and access them from linux.
[17:55] <cleaton> Dr_Willis, i know :/ i used banshee before and it had --play
[17:55] <flappie> it says I have to reinstall it but it couldnt find a package
[17:55] <Pici> !ntfs | I-love-debian
[17:55] <Chamunks> so basically be careful in such cases to make sure there would be a backup of crucial data than to a reliable system...
[17:55] <sm> all: my xorg.conf has gone bad, how do I regenerate it ?
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> cleaton there may be some  related remote-control type commands or some other ways to controll it.
[17:55] <flappie> jimmyDee>it says I have to reinstall it but it couldnt find a package
[17:55] <Jude> JimmyDee it still doesnt work
[17:55] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, and it's a SCSI drive?
[17:55] <JimmyDee> sm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:56] <Chamunks> sm, thats a good question
[17:56] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: no its an ATA drive
[17:56] <I-love-debian> I have mounted, I want it to become 50% linux while i'm runing linux from the harddrive withc is ntfs
[17:56] <sm> thanks.. trying that
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> If  you just remove the xorg.conf and restart X - will that kick in that 'bullet proof  X' feature under gutsy?
[17:56] <kkathman> is there a parabolic menu (like OS-X) that works under gnome??
[17:56] <Pici> I-love-debian: You need to unmount the drive before you repartition it.
[17:56] <Chamunks> sm, what i did was just copied the xorg.conf from the live disk lol
[17:56] <Pici> kkathman: A dock?
[17:56] <flappie> jimmyDee>it says I have to reinstall it but it couldnt find a package
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> I-love-debian you mean you want to resize the partition. I suggest a live cd  that has the gparted tool.
[17:57] <aninhumer> I-love-debian, you might be better using a livecd to edit partitions
[17:57] <void^> uu8: it has all those packages. run a few searches in apt/synaptics/whatever.
[17:57] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, and have you tried burning with an app like k3b or brasero?
[17:57] <sm> on this feisty machine at least, X starts up well with it removed - except it's 640x480 and doesn't recognize some peripherals
[17:57] <cleaton> Dr_Willis, i'm looking for that now, do you know if they have a irc channel? they have ctrl+space as command for play, maybe i can use that in some way
[17:57] <JimmyDee> flappie, and the install is broken...hurm
[17:57] <kkathman> Pici  well I dunno if I'd call it a dock - I tried AWN for instance and its a launcher AND a taskbar which is really not what I want
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> cleaton i dont use that tool. so no idea. check the programs homepage/forums would be a start.
[17:57] <kkathman> Pici,  Im looking for something like ksmoothdock, only that works
[17:57] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: no i haven't
[17:57] <aninhumer> sm, those will be the defaults that it uses without a conf
[17:57] <flappie> jimmyDee> its very weird, cant reinstall it cant fix it
[17:58] <sm> right
[17:58] <uu8> void^: further i get these version related errors
[17:58] <uu8> Requested 'renderproto >= 0.9.3' but version of RenderProto is 0.9.2
[17:58] <uu8> Requested 'pixman-1 >= 0.9.5' but version of Pixman is 0.9.4
[17:58] <sm> is using the kernel framebuffer a good idea ?
[17:58] <JimmyDee> flappie, dpkg --configure -a didnt work?
[17:58] <Hammerhead> shfs on Fiesty anyone?
[17:58] <flappie> nope
[17:58] <aninhumer> sm, probably doesn't matter like it says
[17:58] <Pici> kkathman: I was going to suggest awn, so... I dont know, sorry
[17:58] <sm> I wonder why it asks me
[17:58] <kkathman> Pici have you worked with AWN??
[17:58] <flappie> jimmyDee> I guess Ill have to override the error but how
[17:58] <I-love-debian> I cannot boot cds
[17:58] <Hammerhead> Can not get it to build
[17:58] <Chamunks> can someone trigger the bot to send me to some rsync howto's ??
[17:58] <Jimme1> I am reading from a failed GTK 2.10.14 ./configure that's still seeing the old GLIB I have, and the new GLIB I compiled, and getting confused. It says " You may also be able to fix the error by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable..." - Does anyone know what I should do?
[17:58] <MilitantPotato> how do I mount a camera connected by USB?
[17:59] <JimmyDee> flappie, got synaptic?
[17:59] <flappie> yes
[17:59] <aninhumer> sm, either option can occasionally cause problems
[17:59] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, well try burning with k3b first...ur fstab looked fine, the only other thing i can think of is because ur using a dvd
[17:59] <wolfjb> brb
[17:59] <aninhumer> sm, and if it doesn't ask you wouldn't be able to configure that :P
[17:59] <Pici> kkathman: I've used it before.
[17:59] <flappie> jimmyDee> I got synaptic
[17:59] <Hammerhead> No one is using shfs???
[17:59] <keito> MilitantPotato: it normally mounts automagically. have you checked dmesg for any any?
[17:59] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: thanks for the suggestions, i appreciate them.  do you know how to tell what module(driver) is driving the cdrom?
[17:59] <dgjones> !backup | Chamunks, Hopefully this will help, I don't know if there's a specific rsync one
[17:59] <|Zippo|> vinicius@notebook:~$ smbclient -L apatite
[17:59] <|Zippo|> Connection to apatite failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[18:00] <kkathman> Pici it works "ok", except that side by side thing with the taskbar and launcher - if you could disable the taskbar that would be ok
[18:00] <|Zippo|> what is this error?
[18:00] <Pici> kkathman: Then delete the bottom panel.
[18:00] <MilitantPotato> keito: man, you're right, I sort of expected a prompt I guess :)
[18:00] <JimmyDee> flappie, system>administration>synaptic>edit>fix broken packages
[18:00] <Chamunks> dgjones, thanks i just cant recall offhand how i should format my local to ssh server's backup of a file
[18:00] <kkathman> Pici,  Seems like I remember trying, but there's some catch
[18:00] <keito> MilitantPotato: ;)
[18:00] <aninhumer> !backup | Chamunks, Hopefully this will help, I don't know if there's a specific rsync one (repeat of dgjones)
[18:00] <ubotu> Chamunks, Hopefully this will help, I don't know if there's a specific rsync one (repeat of dgjones): There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[18:00] <flappie> jimmyDee> synaptic gives me the error at startup and forces me to close synaptic
[18:01] <JimmyDee> flappie, whats the error?
[18:01] <Chamunks> aninhumer, thanks:)
[18:01] <void^> uu8: use a slightly older source package for whatever you're trying to compile.
[18:01] <flappie> jimmyDee> the same as when I try to run an update or install
[18:01] <bofphile> Hi everyone !
[18:01] <aninhumer> Chamunks, thank him, I just repeated his ubotu :P
[18:01] <flappie> jmmyDee>ill try from the commandline
[18:01] <JimmyDee> flappie, tried rebooting?
[18:02] <Chamunks> !sbackup | Chamunks
[18:02] <Jude> Hi bofphile
[18:02] <Chamunks> lol damn i gotta learn how to use that thing :P
[18:02] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, maybe dmesg will show it im not sure
[18:02] <aninhumer> !ubotu | Chamunks
[18:02] <ubotu> Chamunks: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:02] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: thanks
[18:03] <flappie> jimmyDee> I tried a reboot, cant run synaptic
[18:03] <uu8> void^: trying to build xorg module (kdrive, Xephyr with evdev) , xorg mailing list told me to get from git, git has latest version, what to do, gutsy does not have evdev kdrive extensions that i need to use gutsy.
[18:03] <flappie> jimmyDee> even not from the commandline with non interactive
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> When I open synaptic it's much larger then my desktop, I can't resize it because it extends beyond the sides, and I also can't move it to get to them.
[18:03] <LSN> bonjour les gens !
[18:03] <Chamunks> aninhumer, thanks again :)
[18:03] <LSN> oulà
[18:03] <Profanephobia> gcarrillo, np good luck
[18:03] <Pici> !fr | LSN
[18:03] <ubotu> LSN: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:03] <LSN> oui ;)
[18:03] <LSN> thanks :)
[18:03] <MilitantPotato> It also covers up my panels
[18:03] <JimmyDee> guys whats the command line to force unlock /var/lib/dpkg yadda yadda?
[18:03] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: the other commandline burning program was wodim
[18:04] <gcarrillo> Profanephobia: kinda cool
[18:04] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, Alt click to move it
[18:04] <tico55> Hello all
[18:04] <tico55> I need help
[18:04] <bofphile> I was wondering if someone could help me solve a problem with Firefox ?
[18:04] <void^> uu8: if you want to build an xorg module from git you'll likely have to build your entire xorg
[18:04] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, You can drag until a side is visable
[18:04] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: it won't move.
[18:04] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: it's not maximized either
[18:05] <flithm> hey everyone how do I reconfigure a package with dpkg after it's already been configured?
[18:05] <seanh> Hey -- I thought Gutsy had PDF priner installed by default, but I don't see it? Just the usual postscript printer?
[18:05] <Pici> JimmyDee: I suspect delete the lock file that it complains about.
[18:05] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, ooer maybe it is maximised but the wrong size?
[18:05] <JimmyDee> Pici, its some cryptic fluser or something like that
[18:05] <uu8> void^: i dont want to build anything, but gutsy "didn't packed the last kdrive tree with evdev", what are my options then ?
[18:06] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: if I rotated the cube a couple times the panel shows up ontop of it, I right clicked synapic's toolbar and it's not maximized
[18:06] <snkmad> how do i configure my mic? i think its not working
[18:06] <Pici> JimmyDee: /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:06] <flithm> hey everyone... how do I reconfigure a package with dpkg?
[18:06] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, hmm, I guess you'd have to delete the configy thing for that... I'll look it up
[18:06] <sm> yay! X is happy again
[18:06] <bluesky> sudo dpkg-reconfigure your_package
[18:07] <tico55> I am new to Linux and I'm having issues with my laptop picking up the network card can someone help
[18:07] <flithm> bluesky: thanks!
[18:07] <sm> one more q, I have tried before but failed to disable the ctrl-alt-backspace reset key
[18:07] <sm> any idea ?
[18:07] <JimmyDee> flappie, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:07] <sm> MS wireless keyboard + emacs = constant X restarts
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> tico55: What's the problem? A little more info would be helpful
[18:08] <JimmyDee> !wireless > tico
[18:08] <JimmyDee> !wireless > tico55
[18:08] <bofphile> Anyone, please ?
[18:08] <tico55> I have an IBM t40 one sec
[18:08] <snkmad> !mic
[18:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:09] <MilhousePunkRock> tico55: Great, that should be an atheros based chipset, I have the same (T23)
[18:09] <tico55> no hard wired and also my wireless card which is a dlink DWL- ag650
[18:09] <pike_> tico55: lspci -v  should tell you the chipset of the card then search ubuntuforums.org for it that shuld be a good starting place
[18:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !ask | bofphile
[18:09] <ubotu> bofphile: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[18:10] <void^> uu8: if you want the latest git/cvs version of some software you either build it yourself or find binaries. it's rather unusual to actually need such current versions.
[18:10] <bluesky> void^ : what's wrong to with building from cvs/svn/git ?
[18:10] <JimmyDee> !works for me
[18:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[18:10] <tico55> I am a windows guy a real newbie with linux what does that mean lol
[18:10] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, not sure where it is :/
[18:11] <Jude> definitely i have no choice than leave the room, cause nobody want to help me
[18:11] <agnes_s> I cant get Artwiz fontcollection to work for me in fluxbox, could someone help me out ? plz
[18:11] <Downix> I HAVE UBUNTU ON SPARC!!!
[18:11] <Downix> took me a full week to get it working
[18:11] <bofphile> ok, it's an issue I always had with ubuntu (dapper/feisty/gutsy). I've even made a thread on the ubuntuforum but with no solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=335380
[18:11] <frojnd> Does anyone here use ati card. I specificly use mobility x1400 and if he or she managed to install driver. And where were the howtos posted
[18:11] <kemik_> tico55: that you need a terminal and type the command "lspci -v"
[18:11] <pike_> tico55: if you open a terminal and type lspci -v  itll list most of your hardware. tell you you have nvidia or ati and such
[18:12] <Downix> except... now my video is out of range!
[18:12] <Downix> eek, I can't even see my screen
[18:12] <kemik_> tico55: you can open a terminal in teh programmenu, top left
[18:12] <snkmad> Qwexer did you saw this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[18:12] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, AHA, delete /root/.synaptic/synaptic.conf (you'll need sudo privleges)
[18:12] <crf> hi I have Ubuntu 6.06. I have a usb mouse. When I resume after hibernating the computer, the USB mouse doesn't work. Is there a fix or workaround?
[18:12] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: awsome.
[18:12] <agnes_s> please help me with Artwiz fonts , i think i've tried everything
[18:13] <MilhousePunkRock> crf: Install a later kernel...
[18:13] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, don't worry about your prefs either, it just contains WM info AFAICS
[18:13] <uu8> void^: i agree with you, i should not need to, but they left the kdrive/evdev out of the build in gutsy, in order to get that on gutsy, i am trying all solutions, is there a way, that xorg module will build with lower versions of the software that its complaining about (ala --force etc)?
[18:13] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, oh and it might welcome you to ubuntu again
[18:13] <MilhousePunkRock> crf: Or rather, upgrade to 7.10, that's the first version where it works
[18:13] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: I gedit't it first to be sure :)
[18:13] <crf> hmm. Ok :), thanks MilhousePunkRock.
[18:13] <kemik_> crf: tried reconnecting it to the computer? i have that issue with a usb mouse in windows too :/
[18:13] <aninhumer> MilitantPotato, you'e so trusting :P
[18:14] <crf> Well, I unplugged it and replugged it back in.
[18:14] <MilitantPotato> aninhumer: After some guy told me envy was my video driver cure it changed me :D
[18:14] <MilhousePunkRock> kemik_: It's rather that USB is dead after hibernate on kernels before 2.6.22
[18:14] <tico55> thanks guys
[18:14] <tico55> I will give it a try
[18:14] <kemik_> MilitantPotato: ok =) figured my windows fix possibly could help :D
[18:15] <bofphile> I always have 100% CPU usage for a few seconds when I load a page (even without flash or java). It's really strang ebecause this doesn't happen on windows
[18:15] <flappie> jimmyDee: great I managed to get the installer working with: dpkg -i --force-f packagename
[18:15] <MilitantPotato> kemik_: it did, thanks a ton, it was extremely annoying.
[18:15] <JimmyDee> flappie, hooray!
[18:15] <Qwexer> snkmad: I was here, but I'll check that out too, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:15] <bofphile> I have the fglrx driver installed, and I already tried firefox with a new profile without any extension.
[18:15] <flappie> jimmyDee> anyway thanks for your help. If you got someone with this question next time, you got the answer :)
[18:15] <snkmad> Qwexer ok
[18:16] <tico55> one it tells me about my hardware what do I do go out andget the drivers
[18:16] <snkmad> thats all i could find
[18:17] <crf> Thanks for your clear explanations MilhousePunkRock and kemik :) I see I have kernel 2.6.15
[18:17] <ferronica> will my webcam works on pdigin ?
[18:17] <ferronica> i have Logitech Quick cam fusion :)
[18:18] <kemik_> what did i do? i thought my hint didnt work for you :)
[18:18] <Qwexer> I just swapped the mem and HD to another case, maybe it was the MB
[18:18] <MilhousePunkRock> crf: It will work fine with 7.10. But other things might break, you have been warned
[18:18] <aninhumer> ferronica, it depends which protocol you want to use I think
[18:18] <kemik_> MilhousePunkRock: 7.10 aint no good ?
[18:18] <aninhumer> ferronica, I don't think there's support for MSN video chat for example
[18:19] <MilhousePunkRock> kemik_: I did not say that, but from what I heard, many people have problems with upgrading. I did a fresh install, all is fine here
[18:19] <RedBand> can anyone tell me how to format my hd to HFS with gparted livecd
[18:19] <Qwexer> nope same problem, sigh back the drawing board, hehe I'll go to that site you gave me now
[18:19] <aninhumer> ferronica, although there is the amsn client which does
[18:20] <kemik_> MilhousePunkRock: ahh.. well, never had good luck with upgrading desktop installs.. however, went across 4 versions on my server, went smooth.. but will do a clean install of Gutsy now (actually just about to burn th einstall CD! ) =)
[18:20] <Downix> ok, it looks like kubuntu doesn't have dhcp working
[18:20] <pike_> RedBand: im not sure you can.. ext fat minix xfs and such but ive never tried hfs
[18:20] <MilhousePunkRock> kemik_: Good luck!
[18:21] <Downix> how do I start it manually?  (I noticed there is no dhcpclient command)
[18:22] <RedBand> oh, i think you can because ppl at insanelymac seem to be doing it. Thanks anyway :)
[18:22] <aninhumer> btw, is there an easier way to start a line with someone's nickname than typing it or C+Ping it (hard with scrolling text window)?
[18:23] <jhattu> A stupid question about pidgin: When I block someone, do he/she get a message that I blocked him/her?
[18:23] <Enselic> aninhumer: C+Ping?
[18:23] <icd> no =p
[18:23] <bluesky> jhattu : no
[18:23] <Enselic> aninhumer: just Tab-complete nicknames
[18:23] <bluesky> jhattu : he just won't see you online
[18:23] <bluesky> jhattu : so after a period of time he/she will probably realize you blocked him/her
[18:23] <icd> erm, hi, is there a channel where i can get some help on css/html?
[18:23] <bluesky> jhattu : btw not being noticed is pretty much the point of blocking
[18:24] <Enselic> jhattu: you can see if a person has blocked you with Pidgin, just hover the nicknames
[18:24] <icd> havent been on IRC for like 3 years :P
[18:24] <bluesky> icd : #html I suppose :)
[18:24] <jhattu> bluesky. nice. thanks. so I dare to block people and still do it in a polite way - so that they do not even now that I blokced them?
[18:24] <aninhumer> jhattu, it may depend on protocol too?
[18:24] <icd> oh yeah
[18:24]  * icd slaps head
[18:24] <icd> ty <3
[18:24] <aninhumer> Enselic, aha :P
[18:24] <jhattu> Enselic: good point.
[18:24] <aninhumer> Enselic, thanks
[18:24] <bluesky> aninhumer : jhattu : nope
[18:24] <jhattu> aninhumer: I wish to block people from MSN ;-)
[18:24] <Qwexer> ok so when I type in sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0...what is supposed to happen? I get a PW prompt and then nothing
[18:24] <bluesky> Enselic : I don't think so : you see if YOU have blocked him/her
[18:24] <jhattu> bluesky: thanks for the correction.
[18:25] <Enselic> bluesky: ah yes, that's probably true
[18:25] <tico55> back go bumped
[18:25] <ferronica> i dont use msn  even in yahoo :(
[18:25] <Enselic> Qwexer: if everything went ok, you will get no output
[18:25] <jhattu> But why would you keep a name on your buddy list if you have blocked him/her?
[18:25] <tico55> so when I run lspci -v  in terminal it will tell me the hardware I have in the machine
[18:25] <aninhumer> jhattu, yeah, with MSN they just won't see that you're online, although it may not make a difference with protocol
[18:25] <deepfreez> Hi, how is the command ? apt-get --purge proftpd or what? for purge this proggram
[18:25] <bluesky> aninhumer : you're right
[18:26] <bluesky> deepfreez : sudo apt-get remove --purge proftpd
[18:26] <Qwexer> ok so I do that, then try to use the alsamixer and get a function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device
[18:26] <MilhousePunkRock> deepfreez: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[18:26] <deepfreez> tnx bluefox83
[18:26] <deepfreez> ups
[18:26] <deepfreez> bluesky ;)
[18:26] <MilhousePunkRock> like bluesky said
[18:26] <bluesky> aninhumer : in fact I think the blocking feature is handled server-side
[18:26] <bluesky> deepfreez : ur welcome
[18:26] <bluesky> Qwexer : try "alsamixer -c 1"
[18:26] <bluesky> Qwexer, or 2, or 3 etc.
[18:27] <boulba> hello
[18:27] <boulba> how to have one wallpaper per workspace ?
[18:27] <boulba> i have compiz fusion
[18:27] <Qwexer> bluesky: ok did that and goe wrong -c argument 'the number'
[18:28] <bluesky> boulba : don't think it's possible...
[18:28] <tushyd> does anyone know if I could get a GSM modem and use it to make voice calls through my computer?
[18:28] <Ballena> Does the mv-command overwrite files if a file with that filename allready exists?
[18:28] <aninhumer> bluesky, boulba, I'm sure I've seen that before...
[18:28] <boulba> bluesky: oh really ??
[18:28] <rcrocker> I have seen screen shots of other peoples computers that have a menu/launcher that looks like a menu/luncher I have seen on the Mac OS. Can someone tell me what this linux app is called?
[18:28] <bluesky> boulba : well, maybe with Beryl it's possible
[18:29] <bluesky> boulba : did you went through all the options dialogs ?
[18:29] <boulba> aninhumer: how ?
[18:29] <tico55> it look like from running that comand that it sees the card why dont it work
[18:29] <MilhousePunkRock> rcrocker: Maybe AWM?
[18:29] <boulba> bluesky: yes but i'm not very good in English
[18:29] <riotkittie> rcrocker: search the forum for Mac Os menu bar; there's a post that includes a HOW TO and links to files  if you feel the need to go that route
[18:29] <rcrocker> Thanks Milhouse
[18:29] <Pici> rcrocker: awn, avant-window-navigator
[18:29] <aninhumer> boulba, I don't know, it might be a feature of beryl that hasn't been ported to compiz fusion yet, have a google around :P
[18:29] <kirk> How do I get VB.Net to work?  WIne vbsetup.exe failed.
[18:29] <Qwexer> I just ran the lspci and the sound card is still not showing up
[18:30] <tushyd> does anyone know if I could get a GSM modem and use it to make voice calls through my computer?
[18:30] <seanh> Hey anyone know what happened to the PDF printer in Gutsy? I thought it was installed by default?
[18:30] <aninhumer> boulba, can't you set ubuntu to your own language? (or is compiz not localised there yet?)
[18:30] <boulba> aninhumer: already tried w/ googlez
[18:31] <tico55> I ran lspci the netowork card is ibm pro 1000  it says access denied
[18:31] <rustyjuggler> hi, I have installed Amarok and want to change it to a more GNOME-like look, what do I do?
[18:31] <Qwexer> well I'm done for now have to go make the donuts, later all
[18:32] <kirk> WIne vbsetup.exe failed -- anyone make it work?
[18:32] <bluesky> kirk : http://wiki.winehq.org/MicrosoftDotNet
[18:32] <aninhumer> boulba, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507
[18:32] <boulba> aninhumer: not localised yet
[18:32] <kirk> Thanks bluesky
[18:32] <riotkittie> errr. are you trying to run virtualbox in wine? >_>
[18:32] <bluesky> kirk : you're welcome
[18:32] <tico55> bluesky
[18:32] <bluesky> kirk : but next time ask in the #winehq channel
[18:32] <tushyd> anyone? Voice calls with a GSM modem?
[18:32] <bluesky> tico55 : yes ?
[18:32] <aninhumer> boulba, hmm, 2005 may be beryl instructions
[18:32] <bluesky> tushyd : sorry, no idea
[18:32] <kirk> ok
[18:32] <ferronica> irc channel for gimp ?
[18:33] <riotkittie> ferronica: #gimp maybe?
[18:33] <aninhumer> boulba, anyway, I have pizza, sorry g2g :P
[18:33] <bluesky> riotkittie : lmao
[18:33] <tico55> I ran the command and it shows my network card is a intel pro 1000 but it says access denied
[18:33] <EtteSB> anyone know where Grub is normaly kept?
[18:33] <Pici> !away > aninhumer-away (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:33] <Norrel> ferronica: irc.gimp.org #gimp
[18:33] <tico55> what do I do to get it going
[18:33] <Pici> EtteSB: /boot/grub/
[18:33] <EtteSB> ta
[18:33] <MilhousePunkRock> !wireless | tico55
[18:33] <ubotu> tico55: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:34] <ferronica> Norrel: i have to change server ?
[18:34] <tico55> it is not wireless it is the on board card
[18:34] <BrightEyes`> hey i have compiz fusion and i want to see the tricks.can anyone tell me some graphical tricks:) ?
[18:34] <Norrel> ferronica: not to change, just add
[18:34] <Norrel> make new connection
[18:34] <MilhousePunkRock> tico55: So you know your chipset now, IIRC, it should be pretty easy to get it working. The Docs have everything you need...
[18:34] <DShepherd> BrightEyes`, have you installed ccsm?
[18:34] <ferronica> Norrel: ya change
[18:34] <BrightEyes`> DShepherd: ive installed ubuntu 7.10 and the restricted drivers
[18:34] <tico55> thanks milhouse
[18:34] <DShepherd> !ccsm | BrightEyes`
[18:34] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[18:35] <Norrel> ferronica: you can have two networks connected at the same time :)
[18:35] <BrightEyes`> !compiz
[18:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:35] <nerochiaro> hello, is there any boot option in the livecd that will allow me to have linux ignore completely one of the hard disks i have plugged in in the machine ?
[18:36] <Pici> nerochiaro: You mean when you install?
[18:37] <nerochiaro> Pici: even without installing, just while running the livecd
[18:37] <dissonans> update-manager -c died on me, is there anything I can do to fix up the aborted upgrade process?
[18:37] <nerochiaro> Pici: i have a defective hdd and it messes with the livecd boot process
[18:37] <dissonans> this has happened to me about 2 out 4 times btw ...
[18:38] <Pici> nerochiaro: I cant think of any way of doing it inside the livecd, but you could disable it in your bios.
[18:38] <nerochiaro> Pici: i'd like to keep it connected and later use ubuntu to try to recover the data on that disk
[18:38] <Juhaz> nerochiaro, man bootparam
[18:38] <nerochiaro> if at all possible
[18:38] <burwaco> ok, I've had it, I'm starting a full backup andgoing for a fresh install, too bad, I have this system scince woody...
[18:38] <Pici> Juhaz: hes using the live CD :)
[18:38] <nerochiaro> Pici: i tried hda=none but it's still probing it and failing
[18:38] <principeb13> ubuntu-br
[18:38] <nerochiaro> Pici: i'll check the man
[18:38] <Juhaz> try hda=noprobe
[18:38] <principeb13> #buntu-br
[18:38] <Pici> o
[18:38] <riotkittie> errr. isnt woody debian?
[18:38] <Pici> principeb13: /j #ubuntu-br
[18:39] <dissonans> please, I'd like some advice on this, it's not nice to have a system upgrade fail ...
[18:39] <Pici> burwaco: Are you running Ubuntu even?
[18:39] <riotkittie> or did i miss woody warthog?
[18:39] <nerochiaro> Juhaz: i did try that too. keeps checking. should i use both ?
[18:39] <Pici> riotkittie: no, good call.
[18:39] <principeb13> valeu pici
[18:39] <burwaco> Pici, ? what do you mean ?
[18:39] <Pici> burwaco: as riotkittie pointed out, you said 'woody;
[18:39] <riotkittie> burwaco: you said you had the system since woody. woody is debian.
[18:40] <bluebluestar> hello
[18:40] <burwaco> Pici, good point !
[18:40] <Whitor> Hi... U recently upgraded from feisty to Gutsy... and now I cant Ctrl+Alt+F1 .... all I get is a blinking cursor... any ideas?  this is majorly frustrating
[18:40] <Whitor> U = I
[18:40] <burwaco> Pici, riotkittie what was 5.10 than ?
[18:40] <Crazy|One> I cannot watch avi files on my laptop running ubuntu gutsy.  did apt-get install avi win32 codecs,  mplayer and xine
[18:41] <riotkittie> 5.10 was before my time. it might have been breezy?
[18:41] <burwaco> breezyy badger ?
[18:41] <Pici> !5.10
[18:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[18:41] <Usr1> Are there any free (as in gratis, but libre is better) linux games that actually have a decent plot?
[18:41] <bluebluestar> installed 7.10 on a new machine, only pages to be opened are mozila, other www pages stall at "waiting for"
[18:41] <Whitor> badger badger badger
[18:41] <burwaco> Pici, not woody, breezy, sorry...
[18:41] <ipx> !eol
[18:41] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[18:41] <kylequamme> anyone a coding wizard around here?
[18:41] <Pici> burwaco: its okay :)
[18:42] <Pici> kylequamme: try ##programming
[18:42] <burwaco> I upgraded last night and started to clean up, but it's just too big a mess...
[18:42] <Crazy|One> anybody here able to help with codec issues?
[18:42] <FluxD> Crazy|One: get vlc
[18:42] <kylequamme> pici: is that channel linux specific?
[18:43] <bluebluestar> installed 7.10 on a new machine, only pages to be opened are mozila, other www pages stall at "waiting for"
[18:43] <Pici> kylequamme: I dont think so, what language do you need help with? there are quite a few language specific channels here.
[18:43] <Whitor> vlc > all
[18:43] <dissonans> vlc is crash prone I find
[18:43] <kylequamme> Pici: i am in need of a plugin or program that will monitor sound card silence
[18:43] <FluxD> I find VLC the most crash-unprone :/
[18:44] <dissonans> lucky you I suppose
[18:44] <riotkittie> Usr1: i'm sure that there are, but 'decent' is a relative term. for example, some people would consider the plot of say, neopets, to be decent.
[18:44] <vulcanius> i've had MPlayer crash tons but never VLC
[18:44] <Pici> kylequamme: mm.. Maybe the ##programming people can point you in the right direction
[18:44] <Crazy|One> well im gonna find out in a sec, installin it now
[18:44] <Juhaz> nerochiaro, hrm. http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/11/88 might be the reason. if the livecd is modular (can't check now), then there's probably no way without remastering it.
[18:44] <kylequamme> Pici k thanks
[18:45] <Juhaz> nerochiaro, also, if it's recent, tried with sda? the hd naming for ide devices changed a while ago.
[18:45] <Usr1> riotkittie: I'm talking about something that at least drives the story some, even if it's not awesome. Like most console FPS games, the story isn't that great, but at least it's not just a bunch of random things happening.
[18:45] <DemonCleaner> anybody here experienced with ati + ubuntu? i just can start/install ubuntu in konsole-version
[18:45] <nerochiaro> Juhaz: the error it reports is in hda, though. the livecd is that of gutsy
[18:46] <riotkittie> heh. i cant suggest any; i'm not a gamer. :x
[18:46] <Crazy|One> one more question, there is a folder on my ubuntu machine i want to share across the network with 3 pc connected to, all running windows.  I can view the windows shared folder from ubuntu, but cannot view any ubuntu folders on the windows machine
[18:46] <resuba> Guys i have a real big problem i have installed windows over ubuntu and naturaly it overwrote  the boot sector..  iam on live cd  and cannot mount  because i cannot list my  home partition maybe it is because it is  a sata drive  fdisk -l wont even list it
[18:46] <nerochiaro> Juhaz: interesting post that one in lkml you linked
[18:46] <aninhumer-away> Pici, sorry, thanks for telling me
[18:46] <FluxD> !samba | Crazy|One
[18:46] <ubotu> Crazy|One: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:46] <nerochiaro> Juhaz: i may try also ide0=noprobe
[18:46] <nerochiaro> i didn't try that
[18:47] <riotkittie> resuba: if youre using fdisk, you wont get any output unless you prefix it with sudo
[18:47] <Crazy|One> vlc player not doing anything :\ the time is going up but no sound or video
[18:48] <aninhumer> !codecs | Crazy|One
[18:48] <aninhumer> !codec | Crazy|One
[18:48] <ubotu> Crazy|One: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:48] <Crazy|One> i've installed the codecs through apt
[18:49] <nslater> When I do "apt-get install udev" on gutsy nothing happens
[18:49] <DShepherd> Crazy|One, apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:49] <aninhumer> Crazy|One, all of them? what kind of video are you trying to play?
[18:49] <Crazy|One> standard avi files from camera
[18:50] <laur> Hi. I'm using Gutsy and I'm trying to set up a terminal server. The client boots to a black screen with a blinking cursor. If I switch to tty1 and login (I configured an user for this purpose) I get a shell, I can ping/ssh the server, startx says "Given bpp (32) is not supported by i810 driver", if I change xorg.conf I can startx. What's the problem?
[18:50] <Crazy|One> I installed win32 codecs, avidivx codecs
[18:50] <DemonCleaner> hi, anybody here experienced with ati + ubuntu? i just can start/install ubuntu in konsole-version
[18:50] <aninhumer> Crazy|One, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" like someone said
[18:50] <Crazy|One> thats what im doing
[18:50] <Crazy|One> right now
[18:51] <DemonCleaner> :,(
[18:51] <xxuaoxxAFK> can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial for dual booting XP and the latest Ubuntu?
[18:51] <aninhumer> Crazy|One, btw, just a note avi is a container, it can be any kind of video inside it
[18:52] <Pici> !dualboot | xxuaoxxAFK
[18:52] <ubotu> xxuaoxxAFK: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[18:52] <xxuaoxx> !dualboot
[18:52] <Crazy|One> aninhumer i see, i thought avi files was a format
[18:52] <kkathman> xxuaoxx,  install windows first, partition off a space, then install ubuntu - it really is that simple
[18:52] <aninhumer> Crazy|One, don't worry, so did I for a long time :P
[18:53] <ma> yo
[18:53] <nslater> Anyone know if udev is used in gutsy or feisty?
[18:53] <ma> wad up
[18:53] <erUSUL> nslater: both
[18:53] <ma> *************************
[18:53] <nslater> erUSUL, why wont it install then?
[18:53] <Crazy|One> heh thats ok then
[18:53] <xxuaoxx> rock on, thanks for that link. one more question...
[18:54] <erUSUL> nslater: ? it comes installed by default afaics
[18:54] <xxuaoxx> the iso i downloaded for ubuntu... can I burn that as a bootable dvd?
[18:54] <Lawke> Hi, my laptop batterij is going down really fast, anyone got any suggestions for this??
[18:54] <nslater> ma, wtf was that?
[18:54] <riotkittie> hdah man asterisk abuse.
[18:54] <riotkittie> errr. that was.
[18:54] <Pici> !support | ma
[18:54] <ubotu> ma: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[18:54] <nslater> erUSUL, doing a dist-upgrade removed it and now when I try to "apt-get install -f udev" nothing happens, it just tells me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded."
[18:55] <xxuaoxx> Lawke: plug it in?
[18:55] <Lawke> xxuaoxx, very funny..
[18:55] <aninhumer> Lawke, it might be an actual hardware issue
[18:56] <Lawke> aninhumer, duh, but in win xp it lasted for 2 hours, in ubuntu it only lasts 50 min
[18:56] <erUSUL> nslater: what 'apt-cache policy udev' returns?
[18:56] <DShepherd> xxuaoxx, yeah, bootable is possible
[18:56] <xxuaoxx> Dshepherd: do I have to do anything to it? or just pop in a blank dvd and burn away?
[18:57] <aninhumer> Lawke, hmm have you tweaked the power management settings? you might be running with higher brightness or something like that
[18:57] <DShepherd> xxuaoxx, no
[18:57] <DemonCleaner> can someone help me, everytime i start/install ubuntu in non-text-based-mode the display gets black and sends "no signal"
[18:57] <DShepherd> xxuaoxx, jusy burn away
[18:57] <Lawke> aninhumer, the brightness applet doesn't work here
[18:57] <DShepherd> !md5sum | xxuaoxx
[18:57] <ubotu> xxuaoxx: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[18:57] <Lawke> any other programs?
[18:57] <xxuaoxx> sweet!
[18:58] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, is this since you installed? or sudden?
[18:58] <nslater> erUSUL: http://dpaste.com/23827/
[18:58] <DShepherd> xxuaoxx, check the md5sumfirst though
[18:58] <kst-> anyone using slab in gutsy? when i click documents it takes AGES to load :(
[18:58] <xxuaoxx> even if I downloaded it straight from the site?
[18:59] <uu8> void^ kthx, bai
[18:59] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: i even cant install (only in text-based-mode) i tried the 7.04 64bit, 7.04 32 bit and the 7.10 32bit
[18:59] <DShepherd> xxuaoxx, yeah.. things can corrupt downloads sometimes plus it wouldn't hurt to be right again
[18:59] <erUSUL> nslater: which are those "5 not upgraded"?
[18:59] <uu8> void^: kthx, bai
[18:59] <samIam122> has anyone seen this error before? It is from my apache error.log on running on an ubuntu server *** glibc detected *** /usr/sbin/apache2: corrupted double-linked list: 0x08e2b458 ***
[18:59] <nslater> erUSUL, how do I find out?
[18:59] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, ah, did you try safe graphics mode at startup?
[18:59] <rellik_> I was doing an apt-get install and it failed on configure..  so I manually configured the package and it's fine..  but now whenever I install something else it tries to reconfigure the package (and fails)..  how do I tell it that the package is installed and to quit trying to configure it?
[18:59] <jorunn> hi
[18:59] <bucatoamano> !ot
[18:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:59] <aninhumer> Lawke, you could play with the power management System>Prefs>Power Management
[19:00] <xxuaoxx> ok, will do. thanks guys... I'll be back in a few hours after I back up my data and install Ubuntu
[19:00] <jorunn> i wonder what is meant by the ~ sign in several commands????? anyone could help?
[19:00] <erUSUL> nslater: sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:00] <nslater> jorunn, it's your home folder
[19:00] <Pici> jorunn: ~/ is your home directory
[19:00] <dxdt> maps to /home/yourusername
[19:00] <aninhumer> Lawke, it may not help, but there may be a setting in there that's causing it
[19:00] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: if this is the version looking like unix, yes. in konsole-version it works
[19:00] <nslater> erUSUL: console-setup hpijs initramfs-tools rhythmbox sound-juicer
[19:00] <jorunn> i touhgt it was, but i was working on something and it looked like it didn't refferd to my home folder
[19:01] <jorunn> weird
[19:01] <erUSUL> nslater: can yopu make 'sudo apt-get install console-setup hpijs initramfs-tools rhythmbox sound-juicer' ?
[19:01] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: on virtual mashine it also works
[19:01] <jorunn> thanks for the info
[19:01] <nslater> erUSUL: http://dpaste.com/23828/
[19:02] <resuba> guys please help me.    i overwrote my linux wiht win boot sector...  i just cannot  get it back
[19:02] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, I think there's an option at the bottom (operated by an f-key) that sets it to safe graphics, it's not accelerated but it should work
[19:02] <resuba> iam on live cd now
[19:02] <resuba> please someone
[19:02] <resuba> i dont want to have to reinstall
[19:02] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, what is your graphics card btw?
[19:02] <Pici> !grub | resuba
[19:02] <ubotu> resuba: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:02] <resuba> i know
[19:02] <Jimme1> When configuring (./configuring) GTK, how can I point to the pango files I installed in a "non standard prefix"?
[19:02] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: ati x800gt
[19:02] <resuba> but i cannot install grub-install untill o do it for proper drive
[19:03] <Pici> Jimme1: check ./configure --help , usually there are switches you can add for non-standard directories
[19:03] <lgc__> Hi. Is there a tool to draw flowcharts interactively?
[19:03] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, that's probably the problem, if you use safe graphics it should at least start the GUI, even if effects don't work
[19:04] <samIam122> is there a way to check what recent packages were upgrade by apt-get?
[19:04] <erUSUL> nslater: have you checked your sources.list?
[19:04] <DShepherd> lgc__, interactively?
[19:04] <nslater> erUSUL, what for?
[19:04] <aninhumer> resuba, I think you have to do some other commands than grub-install, check those links
[19:04] <RvGaTe> hi, im running gutsy, and installed xfce next to the default gnome one, when i get prompted for the root password (for example, the package manager) and enter my password... the system hangs after hitting enter or pressing Ok.... tho, when i restart the window manager, and try again, i dont get prompted and i can do my stuff.... now this is reaaalllyy annoying, anyone else having this problem? and even better, anyone knows how to get rid of thi
[19:04] <RvGaTe> s behavior?
[19:04] <dxdt> lgc__: Interactively?
[19:04] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: ty a lot, ill try it. ill come back if it doesnt work ;)
[19:04] <olaf_> #ubuntu.de
[19:05] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, good luck :)
[19:05] <lgc__> DShepherd, yes, as blocks, not as lines (Dia excluded, 'cuz it's crappy).
[19:05] <Alan> What is the best bet for buying a desktop PCI wireless card for use with linux?
[19:05] <lgc__> dxdt, echo.
[19:05] <aninhumer> RvGaTe, is that only in xfce or in both?
[19:06] <DShepherd> lgc__, dia has block elements with respect to flowcharts
[19:06] <burwaco> what the hell do you have to do when yo utry to rm *.* and yo get argument list is too long ???
[19:06] <erUSUL> nslater: now that i thought of it dunno ;) maybe some problem on the gb mirror? have you tried using main site repos ?
[19:06] <dxdt> nm I was going to recommend dia as well.  I use that a lot for electrical drawings
[19:06] <bucky100> hey guys, I'm having a problem with GRUB. I recently formatted my ubuntu partition, after which I could no longer boot into windows (GRUB Error 22). I've tried installing ubuntu again, but while installing I get another error concerning GRUB. I can't remove GRUB because the windows xp recovery console can't find my HDD, are there any other options besides reformatting?
[19:06] <RvGaTe> Animoy_, good question... i dont know...
[19:07] <lgc__> DShepherd, but it's really crappy! You end up lining up logical gates vertically! And a very-very lousy output res.
[19:07] <rellik_> I was doing an apt-get install and it failed on configure..  so I manually configured the package and it's fine..  but now whenever I install something else it tries to reconfigure the package (and fails)..  how do I tell it that the package is installed and to quit trying to configure it?
[19:07] <xTheGoat121x> So when I booted Gutsy on my tower for the first time, it displays the boot splash in a resolution my monitor cannot display... is there a way to change that?
[19:07] <Shapeshifter> Uhm, is that right, skydome is missing in gutsys compiz-fusion?
[19:07] <DShepherd> lgc__, aight. to each his own
[19:07] <burwaco> anyone ?
[19:07] <DShepherd> lgc__, openoffice maybe?
[19:07] <lgc__> DShepherd, huh?
[19:07] <gordonjcp> since upgrading to Gutsy, the Themes option in my preferences menu is missing
[19:07] <JDM> does anyone know how to disable the screen saver at the command line? When the screen saver comes on the gui crashes
[19:07] <DShepherd> lgc__, openoffice draw
[19:07] <dxdt> Skydome is so not missing, I'm using it right now
[19:07] <gordonjcp> how can I set the theme in use from the command line?
[19:08] <Pici> gordonjcp: Its in Preferences>Appearance now
[19:08] <kl4m> burwaco: ls | xargs rm
[19:08] <gordonjcp> Pici: well there's a thing
[19:08] <kst-> can you use different icon sizes for different gnome-panels?
[19:08] <Pici> gordonjcp: a thing?
[19:08] <DShepherd> fantasitic 4 the thing?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> Pici: it's a figure of speech, an expression of mild surprise
[19:08] <lgc__> DShepherd, don't know. Let me check...
[19:08] <Shapeshifter> dxdt: Where is it? Is it inside another plugin these days?
[19:09] <netdur> ubuntu freeze every time I try Sytem > Quit
[19:09] <Pici> gordonjcp: Ah, I thought you meant it like 'theres the thing, I cant get to any other menus" or something, nevermind me :)
[19:09] <burwaco> oops
[19:09] <Shapeshifter> ah, there it is...
[19:09] <burwaco> find ~/.thumbnails -type f -atime +7 -delete, then 14, then 21, etc...
[19:09] <aninhumer> burwaco, now you've done it!
[19:09] <burwaco> lol
[19:09] <bucky100> hey guys, I'm having a problem with GRUB. I recently formatted my ubuntu partition, after which I could no longer boot into windows (GRUB Error 22). I've tried installing ubuntu again, but while installing I get another error concerning GRUB. I can't remove GRUB because the windows xp recovery console can't find my HDD, are there any other options besides reformatting?
[19:10] <DShepherd> !grub | bucky100
[19:10] <ubotu> bucky100: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:10] <erUSUL> !grub
[19:11] <XiXaQ> I write something to a textfile using echo. How can I add a newline, like this? echo "Log $(date) \n $(some_command)" >> mylogfile.log
[19:11] <lgc__> DShepherd, nah... it's quite general. And cumbersome -the mark of the house- . Kivio seems to be an option...
[19:11] <warkruid> bucky100: bootresque cd ?
[19:11] <DShepherd> lgc__, try that then
[19:11] <aninhumer> XiXaQ, backslash enter
[19:12] <lgc__> DShepherd, I'm on it...
[19:12] <burwaco> what was your line kl4m
[19:12] <aninhumer> XiXaQ, the backslash escapes the newline
[19:12] <burwaco> ?
[19:12] <kl4m> burwaco: ls | xargs rm
[19:12] <Pici> XiXaQ: Yes, but check the echo manpage, I remember seeing something about not interpreting escape sequences by default
[19:12] <burwaco> kl4m, thx
[19:12] <warkruid> bucky100: is a bootable cd with utilities for restoring crashed systems
[19:12] <burwaco> mine takes ages....
[19:12] <kl4m> burwaco: rm on each line of the output of "ls"
[19:12] <aninhumer> Pici, I just tried it
[19:13] <XiXaQ> Pici, quite right! Thanks :)
[19:13] <chetnick> is compiz installed by default in gutsy? And if it is how do i enable it? I dont have custom options in system>preference>appearance
[19:13] <riotkittie> !ccsm | chetnick
[19:13] <ubotu> chetnick: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[19:13] <Pici> !ccsm | chetnick
[19:13] <kl4m> burwaco: I don't know what you use it for, but keep in mind that it's probably slower than other methods
[19:13] <aninhumer> Pici, XiXaQ, oh wait, it escapes the backslash, but doesn't actually type one
[19:13] <aninhumer> Pici, XiXaQ, escapes the newline even
[19:14] <XiXaQ> aninhumer, echo -e "test1\ntest2" writes test1 and test2 on one line each :)
[19:14] <Pici> aninhumer: yes, I think theres a -e option you need to take, I'm not looking at th manpage right now to remember it exactly.
[19:14] <Pici> Oh, hey, I was right.
[19:14] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: re, also the safe grafic mode doesnt work
[19:14] <burwaco> kl4m, I'm cleaning up .thumbnails for the first time, I shave this system scince ubuntu 5.10... it's 4,5 Gb of thumbs...
[19:14] <JDM> I think the problem is my old hardware, the screensaver kills the gui everytime.  when I go into screensaver my screen dies so I can't disable it in the gui.  Anyone know how to disable the screensaver in a terminal window?
[19:14] <burwaco> anyone got a faster method ?
[19:14] <shishirjha> shishirjha
[19:14] <olafbu>  /j #ubuntu.de
[19:15] <olafbu> shosholoza
[19:15] <shishirjha> Can anybody help me with mic recording in Dell laptop
[19:15] <aninhumer> DemonCleaner, hmm if the basic video driver doesn't work, I can't really help, I don't know much about gfx cards :/ keep googling
[19:16] <DemonCleaner> aninhumer: ok, thx although
[19:16] <CrypticD> exit
[19:16] <CrypticD> woops
[19:16] <CrypticD> hehe
[19:16] <shosholoza> olafbu, hi what can i do
[19:16] <olafbu>  /j #ubuntu.de
[19:17]  * Andeh kindly requests unmutes from #ubuntu-ops and #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:17] <olafbu>  /j #ubuntu.de
[19:18] <shosholoza> olafbu, without space
[19:18] <JDM> I think the problem is my old hardware, the screensaver kills the gui everytime.  when I go into screensaver my screen dies so I can't disable it in the gui.  Anyone know how to disable the screensaver in a terminal window?
[19:18] <Pici> olafbu: /j #ubuntu-dr
[19:18] <Pici> olafbu: /j #ubuntu-de rather
[19:18] <Crazy|One> system reboot brb
[19:18] <burwaco> what's the IRC client that comes standard with Gutsy ? Pidgin ?
[19:19] <JDM> burwaco:Pidgin comes with gutsy
[19:19] <aninhumer> burwaco, it comes with Pidgin but I wouldn't recommend it as an IRC client
[19:19] <Andeh> Seveas: Why exactly was I banned from #ubuntu-ops while requesting unbannage from -offtopic?
[19:19] <shosholoza> olafbu, #ubuntu.de
[19:19] <_hopex> hi, I have a trouble with a MySql connection, as I'm using Ubuntu the #mysql guys told me that it wasn't a mysql problem, so I hope you can help. The problem is that I try to connect from a Ubuntu to a Ubuntu in a LAN using the default 3306 port and the connection is refused. It doesn't seem to be a firewall problem, what could it be?
[19:19] <Seveas> Andeh, I suggest you don't go offtopic in here
[19:20] <Pici> shosholoza: its #ubuntu-de
[19:20] <pecoravolante> hi, I have some problem with my packard bell..I have an Ati x1200..anyone can help me?sorry for my english,but I'm Italian
[19:20] <Seveas> !it | pecoravolante
[19:20] <ubotu> pecoravolante: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:20] <aninhumer> burwaco, I suggest xchat as an irc client
[19:20] <Andeh> Seveas: Well I can't ask unbannage from anywhere in #ubuntu-ops because I've been banned from there :/
[19:20] <shosholoza> Pici, i now thanks to u
[19:20] <Seveas> Andeh, that should give you the hint to come back later
[19:21] <aninhumer> bye all
[19:21] <prof3ta> hello everyone
[19:21] <burwaco> aninhumer, yes I'm using that now, but it's in universe repos... I'd like to stick to standard...
[19:21] <Seveas> Andeh, consider this the last warning about offtopicness in here
[19:21] <Andeh> ...
[19:21] <sedeki> anyone having trouble with msn and kopete?
[19:21] <Andeh> Yeah good night
[19:21] <burwaco> main...
[19:21] <aninhumer> burwaco, I don't think there is an "ubuntu standard" one, but there's nothing wrong with using stuff outside, and xchat is proly the best anyway
[19:21] <olafbu>  pici, thanks a lot
[19:22] <IdleOne> My camera takes small 2 minute movies and saves them in .mov format how can I convert them to .avi or mpeg format?
[19:22] <prof3ta> I've just installed Gutsy on a pc with a RIVA TNT2 Model Pro 64. If I enable the restricted drivers (to get 3D) I get an 800x600 max screen resolution. Any hint???
[19:22] <aninhumer> burwaco, anyway I have to go, otherwise I'll stay in here all night while I should be homeworking :P
[19:22] <prof3ta> please guys, I'm going crazy :D
[19:22] <genii> JDM: gconftool-2 --set "/apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled" --type boolean false
[19:22] <neo> jo
[19:22] <burwaco> aninhumer, I meant main... ok, bye
[19:22] <IdleOne> !fixres | prof3ta
[19:22] <ubotu> prof3ta: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:23] <burwaco> I'll be here for the next 4 hours I guess...
[19:23] <Task> I just installed my ati drivers.... but my monitor wont show above 60hz .... is there a way I can go in and change this setting in the system? I am locked out because of my monitor stays black!!!
[19:23] <Jimme1> What is RAID? Why would you want to use it?
[19:23] <prof3ta> some HUMAN hint? :D
[19:23] <Task> RAID= 300mb/s
[19:24] <Task> For Hard drives
[19:24] <PyroSama> I have a computer that I cant get networking working on. It uses an sis900 chipset and when I try to do any thing with eth0 it tells me I have no device configured for it. Any clue how to get it working?
[19:24] <Skreeg> so close to 1337 users
[19:24] <Task> Jimme1
[19:24] <nadio> anyone got experince installing a printer under ubuntu?
[19:24] <Jimme1> Task, so it makes reading from disk faster
[19:24] <Task> Yes
[19:24] <Ballena> is there a way to change icon of a drive on my GNOME-desktop?
[19:24] <Jimme1> Task, how?
[19:24] <Task> its a different connection
[19:24] <Task> faster
[19:25] <PyroSama> Ballena right click properties and click on the icon in the properties window
[19:25] <Jimme1> ??
[19:25] <Task> IDE is what everyone uses... the big fat gray cables
[19:25] <Task> Raid is like SATA
[19:25] <Pici> Task: no...
[19:25] <Ballena> PyroSama: there are no options for changeing icons there
[19:25] <Task> no?
[19:25] <Jimme1> Task, how does connecting two drives together make reading data from one drive faster?
[19:25] <Task> No... I am talking about raid from motherboard to drive
[19:26] <Pici> Task: no, Its just a way of talking to the disks, can be done ofer IDE, SATA fibre channel etc.
[19:26] <Pici> Task: Jimme1 and it is offtopic for here on how it works, see ##hardware or other.
[19:27] <leladia> pls can someone tell me why this command is not working "tr -cd 'A-Z' < file1 > file2"  is my spacing wrong or what?
[19:27] <Task> I just installed my ati drivers.... but my monitor wont show above 60hz .... is there a way I can go in and change this setting in the system? I am locked out because of my monitor stays black!!!
[19:27] <Bernz> hi
[19:28] <Bernz> whats the command for uninstalling a software?
[19:28] <jessd> Bernz: sudo apt-get remove [package]
[19:28] <Bernz> ok
[19:28] <Bernz> thnx
[19:28] <gotiniens> Does anyone here have experience with the radeon 9500, the open-source drivers and desktop effects? I get artifacts with this combination.
[19:28] <gotiniens> http://members.home.nl/gotiniens/weblog/images/r300artifacts.png
[19:28]  * Rabiddog wonders would evga sent him to replace his evga 7600 GT the one they shipped is 2lbs heavier then the gfx card I sent back
[19:28] <Seveas> leladia, what are you trying to achieve? The command you gave filters everything but capital letters
[19:28] <kl4m> 1337 users! w00t
[19:28]  * Rabiddog s/would/what
[19:29] <los> hi i have message on the sys log:"oct 31 21:27:48 myname-laptop --MARK-- what does that mean?
[19:29] <leladia> Seveas: that is what i am trying to achieve but it is not working when i run it
[19:29] <Rabiddog> its your laptop :D
[19:29] <Seveas> !mark | los
[19:29] <lu> hola
[19:29] <los> !mark
[19:29] <Seveas> leladia, what is the result you get?
[19:29] <Seveas> los, bot seems dead,ang on
[19:30] <lu> holis
[19:30] <leladia> Seveas: file2 is empty
[19:30] <ubotu> los: Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[19:30] <Seveas> los, ah, I had the wrong factoid...
[19:30] <leladia> Seveas: nothing gets filtered to file2
[19:30] <prof3ta> Again. I've just installed Gutsy on a pc with a RIVA TNT2 Model Pro 64. If I enable the restricted drivers (to get 3D) I get an 800x600 max screen resolution. Any hint???
[19:30] <kl4m> I don't think !mark is relevant
[19:30] <atlfalcons866> will i see a speed boost if i compile a kernel
[19:30] <Seveas> los, basically: it's just a timetamp, nothing important
[19:30] <Seveas> leladia, does file1
[19:30] <Seveas> leladia, does file1 contain uppercase letters? :)
[19:31] <pike_> atlfalcons866: maybe in boot time if you do it right
[19:31] <prof3ta> I've already followed the official doc hints
[19:31] <leladia> Seveas: yes lots
[19:31] <los> so it's something normall ...
[19:31] <Seveas> los, yes
[19:31] <kl4m> los: Syslog can be run with a -m " option that just writes "- MARK --" at whatever intervals you specify. The purpose is to provide reassurance that syslogd is listening and doing its job even if it has nothing else to do right now.
[19:31] <Seveas> leladia, odd
[19:31] <leladia> Seveas: yes
[19:32] <Task> hey.... when you install it.. and when you goto format it... why can I only use like 150 mb? I hve a 250mb hard drive
[19:32] <leladia> Seveas: is it possible for you to try it and see?  thanks
[19:32] <jessd> leladia : does altering the command to use pipeline help?  "echo <file1> | tr [options] > file2
[19:32] <los> ok thanks
[19:32] <leladia> jessd: let me try it and see
[19:33] <afries> When you telnet into a linux box, how do you change the txt that is displayed right after u login???
[19:33] <EtteSB> i just deleted my old NTFS partition off of my HD. i made a new partition but it doesn't seem to mount. if i do fdisk -l. it comes up as hda5
[19:33] <jessd> afries: I'd really not suggest you use telnet, try ssh instead, but check /etc/issue.net
[19:34] <leladia> jessd: i ran this  echo home1 | tr -cd 'A-Z' > home2 and i am still getting the same thing home2 is empty
[19:34] <burwaco> Ok, I'm about to throw my entire system in the trash, is there anything I need that isn't in my /home ???
[19:34] <Seveas> leladia, that's normal
[19:34] <Seveas> leladia, 'home1' has no capitals
[19:35] <Jimme1> burwaco, anything that's not in /home can be replaced, unless you deleted something as root, in which case check /root/.Trash
[19:35] <Seveas> leladia, instead of echo you might want cat to cat the file ;)
[19:35] <jessd> leladia: drop the d
[19:35] <szkud> I have an installation of windows and an installation of ubuntu on my computer, if I install another windows partition, will my computer still boot into grub? or is the new windows installation going to take over?
[19:35] <leladia> Seveas: am sorry i forgot i was using echo
[19:35] <jimcooncat> burwaco: if you have a user crontab, it's not under /home
[19:35] <leladia> Seveas: yes you are right cat is the right one
[19:35] <jessd> leladia: -d, --delete
[19:35] <jessd>     delete characters in SET1, do not translate
[19:35] <burwaco> jimcooncat, nope
[19:35] <burwaco> Jimme1, nope
[19:36] <burwaco> final check...
[19:36] <jessd> burwaco: If you can afford it, grab etc
[19:36] <leladia>  jessd: even when did this cat home1 | tr -cd 'A-Z' > home2 i am still getting the same result
[19:36] <leladia> my home2 file is empty
[19:36] <jimcooncat> burwaco: you didn't have a web server under /var/www ?
[19:36] <Crazy|One> i installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras and still cannot view any avi files.  its telling me xine engine error.  no demuxer was available to handle this file
[19:37] <leladia>  jessd: it is driving me crazy
[19:37] <Crazy|One> no demuxer plugin
[19:37] <burwaco> jimcooncat, yes, backed it up...
[19:37] <jimcooncat> that's it for me
[19:37] <jessd> leladia: Try " tr -c 'A-Z' 'a-z'
[19:37] <burwaco> jessd, no, too much crap I changed in there... :)
[19:38] <EtteSB> i just deleted my old NTFS partition off of my HDD. i made a new extended partition then put the logical one inside but i cant seem to see it
[19:38] <burwaco> I backed up my "firefox wallpaper", that's the most important I think...
[19:38] <jessd> burwaco: granted, but you might realize you wanted a config you forgot how to edit; I usually copy the etc to /home/[me]/oldetc
[19:38] <riaal_> Is it possible to get colors (for bash) in nano? (having a hard time with vim)
[19:39] <pike_> riaal_: http://wiki.linuxhelp.net/index.php/Nano_Syntax_Highlighting
[19:39] <jessd> burwaco: then whack ~/oldetc after a month or two
[19:39] <burwaco> jessd, just to do you a favour, I'll havea look, if it's not to big I'll compress it to the backup drive, not a bad idea actually...
[19:39] <riaal_> pike_, thanks a lot
[19:39] <jessd> burwaco: Has saved my hiney several times ;-)
[19:39] <burwaco> ok
[19:40] <roll> hi all, how do i figure out which kernel i have to install? is there a utility to figure it out?
[19:40] <fyrestrtr> roll: what kind of computer do you have?
[19:40] <sjoerd_> Good evening everyone, im trying Ardour but with every track i play i get noise??? Someone knows why?
[19:40] <jessd> roll : "cat /proc/version"
[19:40] <Yasumoto> riaal_: side-note: what helped me out a lot with vim was a program named vimtutor (sudo aptitude install vimtutor)
[19:40] <jessd> roll: or "uname -r"
[19:40] <roll> laptop
[19:40] <burwaco> jessd, /etc is 15mb on my system... I think I have enough space and time to back it up... :-)
[19:41] <riaal_> Yasumoto, cheers!
[19:41] <szkud> if I install another windows partition on my hard drive, will it take over grub?
[19:41] <fyrestrtr> roll: you can go with the default kernel for i386, unless you have an apple laptop.
[19:41] <Yasumoto> riaal_: actually, make that sudo aptitude install vim-common
[19:41] <fyrestrtr> szkud: a Windows *partition* or a Windows *installation* ?
[19:41] <fyrestrtr> Yasumoto: sudo aptitude install vim is shorter ;)
[19:41] <jessd> burwaco: Yap, is usally just small text and compresses to a itty little packet of goodness.  Want real paranoid?  I check my entire etc directory into an SVN repository
[19:41] <szkud> fyrestrtr:  installatio, mb
[19:41] <fyrestrtr> szkud: then yes.
[19:42] <genii> szkud: Unfortunately installing windows after grub is in wipes it out. you can just make a windows partition with fat/vfat without worries
[19:42] <harveyd> does anyone know how to selectively rm symlinks in a directory
[19:42] <Skeesh> Can anyone help with installing from a USB flash drive?
[19:42] <Yasumoto> fyrestrtr: haha, yeah yeah, efficiency :)
[19:42] <roll> will be there a performance boost, if i change a generic kernel to something more suitable to this laptop?
[19:42] <harveyd> http://pastebin.com/m1160d4f1
[19:42] <fyrestrtr> harveyd: find 'your selection' /some/directory -xargs rm {} \;
[19:43] <sjoerd_> no one who knows something about ardour?
[19:43] <harveyd> i want to delete all symlinks that point to anything under /opt/SVN/spriki/trunk/dep/flex
[19:43] <sjovan> harveyd: no, but why can't you just ls -l and rm all the links?
[19:43] <leladia>  jessd: its still not working
[19:43] <fyrestrtr> roll: unless you are doing something very specific, then you will not notice it. You would see better performance by increasing the speed of your disk or increasing the ram on your laptop.
[19:43] <harveyd> because /lib has a hell of a lot of them
[19:43] <RandomUsr> does anyone know where i could find help with my sound card and ALSA?
[19:43] <jessd> harveyd: (use with caution) 'find [targetdir] -type l while read x; do rm "$x"; done'
[19:44] <jessd> leladia: Can you stick a sample in pastebin?
[19:44] <szkud> genii: fyrestrtr: what I want is a clean install of windows though :/ can I get grub back on after installing windows without reinstalling linux?
[19:44] <roll> fyrestrtr: thanks. then i'll just stay with the generic :)
[19:44] <RandomUsr> basically, I need to make sure Ubuntu can ¨See¨ my soundcard, then make sure ALSA is talking to it. Any ideas?
[19:44] <genii> szkud: Yes
[19:44] <genii> !grub
[19:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:44] <genii> szkud: See the first link there from the bot for reference
[19:45] <src> jessd, doesnt that delete all symlinks?
[19:45] <fyrestrtr> szkud: yes.
[19:45] <szkud> excellent. my partition is ready. I'm going to go ahead and start it on it. thank you
[19:45] <szkud> both of you :D
[19:45] <jessd> src: Dang!
[19:46] <src> how about find <dir> -type l|grep <expression of target link>|xargs -i rm {}
[19:46] <balzac> I'm using gutsy gibbon and the install of SPE from the universe repository doesn't launch
[19:46] <balzac> That's Stani's Python Editor
[19:46] <jessd> src: Yep, that'll do it
[19:46] <fyrestrtr> harveyd: find -t l /some/dir/ -xargs rm {} \; <-- this will only find links.
[19:46] <EtteSB> i just deleted my old NTFS partition off of my HDD. i made a new extended partition then put the logical one inside but i cant seem to see it
[19:46] <balzac> anyone else have this problem?
[19:46] <harveyd> thanks loads, ill look at that
[19:46] <fyrestrtr> src: find takes regex args ;)
[19:47] <jessd> fyrestrtr: Nice; I always forget xargs for handling space
[19:47] <src> you're right. my bad habbits never die
[19:47] <fyrestrtr> balzac: run it from a term and see what is wrong with it.
[19:47] <telecom>  hola
[19:48] <balzac> ok, i'll try that fyrestrtr
[19:48] <balzac> Spe Warning: Spe was developped on wxPython v2.6.1.0., but v2.8.4.0. was found.
[19:48] <balzac> If you experience any problems please install wxPython v2.6.1.0.
[19:48] <Skeesh> Can anyone help with installing from a USB flash drive?
[19:49] <telecom> hola
[19:49] <balzac> hopefully it won't suck me into package management hell to upgrade my python...
[19:49] <IdleOne> !install | Skeesh
[19:49] <balzac> downgrade, i mean
[19:49] <IdleOne> ubotu: ping
[19:49] <ubotu> Skeesh: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:49] <ubotu> pong
[19:49] <Skeesh> IdleOne, that would be helpful if I hadn't tried everything listed there and ended up with an unbootable system
[19:50] <IdleOne> Skeesh: sorry dont know what else to tell you
[19:50] <IdleOne> Skeesh: be patient and ask every so often someone will be able to help you
[19:50] <Skeesh> I have been.
[19:50] <Skeesh> For THREE DAYS.
[19:51] <salty-horse> hi. since upgrading to 7.10, when entering the password for a ssh key, I don't see a "cached" lock icon in the notification area -- how do I enable it again?
[19:51] <src> Skeesh, after 3 days I would safely assume no one knows the answer to your question
[19:51] <blizzkid> _hopex, any succes yet?
[19:51] <Skeesh> Well I have a paperweight due to the directions on the wiki, so somebody better know how to fix it
[19:52] <src> Skeesh, got paper too?
[19:52] <Evanlec> lol
[19:52] <kl4m> Skeesh: don't you have any other solution than the usb key? a usb cd-rom maybe?
[19:52] <leladia>  jessd: sure
[19:52] <Skeesh> don't physically have one
[19:52] <RandomUsr> how do I get sound in Gusty?
[19:52] <RandomUsr> anyone?
[19:53] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: whats the problem you are having
[19:53] <src> Skeesh, does your computer know how to boot from the usb key?
[19:53] <_hopex> blizzkid: not really... Asked in here but didn't see any answer
[19:53] <atlfalcons866> does ext3 have a fixed amount of inodes
[19:53] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, is your soundcard installed?
[19:53] <leladia> jessd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42839/ this is it
[19:53] <Skeesh> src: yes, but the instructions on the wiki don't produce a bootable drive, I've tried it on multiple computers
[19:53] <nerochiaro> hi again, i'm into the livecd and i need to copy some data into an existing xfs partition. but i seem to be able to mount the partition only as readonly. any ideas how to mount as rw ?
[19:53] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, uncertain
[19:54] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, do an lspci and search for your soundcard
[19:54] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, lspci sees the Intel HD Audio controller, but itś listed as Sigmatel on Dellś website
[19:54] <src> Skeesh, boot device is set correctly in the bios?
[19:54] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, Intel CH7?
[19:54] <RandomUsr> ich8
[19:54] <Skeesh> src: yup, the issue isn't with my computer
[19:55] <blizzkid> _hopex, let me think for a moment
[19:55] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, hold on, I have an ich7 myself (Dell too)
[19:55] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, ty
[19:55] <IdleOne> how do I use mencoder to convert file,mov to file.avi?
[19:55] <aolaus> hey, anyone know how to stop this constant goddamn fan noise?
[19:56] <_hopex> blizzkid: I´ll try again, it's so close...
[19:56] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, in case youŕe wondering, The sound assistant says it can communicate with the sound device
[19:56] <IdleOne> aolaus: first you stop cursing. then you turn the machine off and that should stop the fan
[19:56] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, Can´t I mean
[19:57] <aolaus> no, seriously
[19:57] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, ok, might be a module missing, see if lsmod | grep intel come back with something
[19:57] <aolaus> I've searched the forums and have yet to find a solution
[19:58] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, should I pastebin it?
[19:58] <tatters> I got a wirless card I want to use in ad-hoc mode, what tool could I use to monitor any connection attempts?
[19:58] <EtteSB> Im editing fstab to include a new partition, what/where should i type in for it. i know the name for it hda5.
[19:59] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, yes that'll make it easier
[19:59] <IdleOne> aolaus: no I was serious when I said to stop cursing :) your other issue sorry I dont know the answer
[20:00] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, pastebin.org/6649
[20:00] <nickrud> EtteSB: what kind of partition?
[20:00] <Alejandr0> hello, ubuntu keeps crashing every five minutes since my xp partition became unstable. How could this happened?
[20:00] <EtteSB> standard linux, logic inside a extended.
[20:00] <Golumn> I create some files with kdar, is how can I uncompress them on windows
[20:00] <LORENA> leyla
[20:00] <tatters> Alejandr0  hard drive problem maybe?
[20:00] <LORENA> slm
[20:00] <nickrud> Alejandr0: either bad physical disk, or bad memory.
[20:01] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, if dell says thereś a sigmatel audio controller then why does the intel device show up?
[20:01]  * nickrud waits for an answer about RandomUsr's issue, I've wondered about that myself
[20:01] <Alejandr0> could it be problems with video card?
[20:01] <sjovan> Alejandr0: is it s-ata disk?
[20:01] <Lawke> Hi, how can I see if laptop-mode is enabled on my Ubuntu 7.10 ???
[20:01] <nickrud> Alejandr0: the only thing common is hardware ....
[20:02] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, never trust dell's info, they have a bunch of "same" pc's with different hardware
[20:02] <Lawke> Hi, how can I see if laptop-mode is enabled on my Ubuntu 7.10 ???
[20:02] <_hopex> blizzkid: I can connect to server by telnet on port 80, 3306 still resisting. Does anyone know about this problem?
[20:02] <EtteSB> nickrud: standard linux, logic inside a extended.
[20:02] <aolaus> anyone have experience with powertop?
[20:02] <RandomUsr> nickrud, I think that the Sigmatel controler just processes the sound and passes HD Compressed audio to the ICH8 For proper encoding
[20:02] <aolaus> it refuses to compile
[20:02] <sjovan> _hopex: have you portfwd?
[20:02] <RandomUsr> ??
[20:02] <sjovan> Alejandr0: is it s-ata disk?
[20:03] <blizzkid> _hopex, 80 does connect? hmmmm, looks as if your mysql doesn't accept external connections then
 ok, is it any way i could figure out exactly which hardware piece is making this problem?
 i dont know, )im a computer illiterate=
[20:03] <ChrisULM> im trying to setup remote access to my ubuntu machine. i would like to be able to access my box from other windows/linux computers over the internet. could somebody maybe hook me up with a how-to?
[20:04] <blizzkid> ChrisULM, google for dydns
[20:04] <gotiniens> Does anyone here have experience with the radeon 9500, the open-source drivers and desktop effects? I get artifacts with this combination.
[20:04] <gotiniens> http://members.home.nl/gotiniens/weblog/images/r300artifacts.png
[20:04] <_hopex> sjovan: how can I do portforwarding, wich would be the protocol TCP or UDP?
[20:04] <nickrud> EtteSB: /dev/hda5 <mountpoint> ext3 defaults 0 0 ; you probably need to sudo mkdir <mountpoint>
[20:04] <Lawke> Hi, how can I see if laptop-mode is enabled on my Ubuntu 7.10 ???
[20:04] <ChrisULM> blizzkid, you mean dyndns?
[20:04] <Flare183> How do I make my computer run smoother when I am using istanbul?
[20:04] <sergio_>  Do you know can i do to call function when the user press enter in all entry widgets?
[20:04] <nickrud> Alejandr0: no, I just swap parts
[20:04] <ChrisULM> i have an account with them
[20:04] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, you sure sound's not muted by accident
[20:04] <nickrud> Alejandr0: although, if it's the hard drive, you'll probably see some errors logged in /var/log/syslog
[20:05] <Helzibah> hmm, what plugin/app do I need to edit X11 cursors?
[20:05] <_hopex> blizzkid: how can I change the mysql config to accept external connections?
[20:05] <fyrestrtr> Flare183: disable desktop effects
[20:05] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, This is not And I D 1O T  error
[20:05] <sjovan> _hopex: you are trying to open ports on one of your computer right? it's TCP
[20:05] <blizzkid> ChrisULM, yep, that'll get you started, then depending on what kind of access, you'll have to port trigger
[20:05] <RandomUsr> I checked that lol
[20:05] <oris_wolfbane> does anyone know how to have the bookmarks in the places menu NOT apear as a sub menu
[20:05] <Flare183> fyrestrtr:> thanks
[20:05] <blizzkid> _hopex, no idea honestly
[20:05] <sjovan> _hopex: you got a problem connecting to your computer?
 what happens if its sata?
[20:05] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, ???
[20:05] <EtteSB> anyone know what to put into fstab to let it mound a new partition?
[20:05] <EtteSB> mount*
[20:05] <_hopex> sjovan: The computers port is open, should be router
[20:06] <blizzkid> EtteSB, man fstab
[20:06] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, itś not muted, thereś nothing to mute
[20:06] <Alan> how well do zydas usb wireless devices work on ubuntu
[20:06] <Alan> ?
[20:06] <sjovan> Alejandr0: the power connectors sucks on S-ata try to jiggel them abit
[20:06] <_hopex> blizzkid: don't worry about it, I'll try something else
[20:06] <leladia> could someone please tell me why this is not working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42839/
[20:06] <sjovan> _hopex: yea
[20:06] <RandomUsr> Alan, is that a Prizm Chip?
[20:06] <blizzkid> ok, RandomUsr, so it doesn't even see that there is a sounddevice?
[20:06] <magnetron> !hardware | Alan (check if it is on this list)
[20:06] <ubotu> Alan (check if it is on this list): For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[20:06] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, not the wireless assistant
[20:07] <burwaco> ok, byebye for now, last bacjup to make but have to close gdm...
[20:07] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, keep in mind that I used the Altern CD
[20:07] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 install executable Bluetooth programs and daemons although my computer's handbook does not mention any Bluetooth?
[20:07] <_hopex> sjovan: or can it be the mysql.conf???
[20:07] <pike_> EtteSB: what file system? fat32 ntfs ext3?
[20:07] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, I thought you were talking about a sound device?
[20:07] <EtteSB> ext
[20:07] <pike_> EtteSB: !ext3 | EtteSB might help
[20:07] <RandomUsr> blizzkid I meant Sound Assistant
[20:08] <RandomUsr> sorry
[20:08] <Skeesh> can anyone help me through https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html ?
[20:08] <sjovan> _hopex: don't think so. check if the port is open on your computer. but try localhost:<portname>
[20:08] <nickrud> leladia: seems to work as expected
[20:08] <pike_> http://www.fs-driver.org
[20:08] <tatters> bullgard4  I get the same thing with my laptop no bluetooth but yet it inists on installing the deamon
[20:08] <leladia> nickrud: did you try it out?
[20:08] <blizzkid> np RandomUsr , It might be a rights problem
[20:08] <leladia> nickrud: it is not working for me
[20:08] <nickrud> leladia: yes, got back DLORD
[20:08] <EtteSB> !ext3 | EtteSB
[20:08] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, tell me youŕe joking
[20:09] <BrightEyes`> where's the .bash_profile file in ubuntu?
[20:09] <leladia> nickrud: home2 comes out empty
[20:09] <BrightEyes`> i mean its in ~ but i cant find it
[20:09] <EtteSB> that told me nothing that helps, it just was how to read it in windows >>
[20:09] <b1n42y> i get ...Process /usr/bin/trackerd exited with status 0 ....when i do a search for xorg.conf ?
[20:09] <nickrud> leladia: strange, I just cut and pasted
[20:09] <leladia> nickrud: did you make any adjustment to the spacing or something?
[20:09] <_hopex> sjovan: http://localhost:3306 asks me to save a BIN file?
[20:09] <Skeesh> can anyone help me through the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html ? I'm having some difficulties with the commands
[20:09] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, could I find the sound module if it exist´s on my system and sudo modprobe ¨audio¨ to load it up?
[20:10] <magnetron> BrightEyes`: all files that start with a . are hidden. hit ctrl+h in a file manager (nautilus) to show them
[20:10] <amrcidiot> guys, i want to reinstalllinux over my existing one, what drive is it? i'm also dual booting windows. the drives that pop up are dev/sda, dev/sda2 fat32 /media/sda2, dev/sda1 ntfs /media/sda1, dev/sda3 ext3 /media/sda3, and dev/sda5 swap.
[20:10] <_hopex> sjovan: ugpnd58v.bin *what is this :?*
[20:10] <BrightEyes`> magnetron: its not there!
[20:10] <Jerre> Nice, installing it went flawless!
[20:10] <sjovan> _hopex: what prog are you trying to use btw?
[20:10] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, nope, I'm not... go to System --> administration --> Users and groups, and double click the user. See if there's a checkmark before "use audio devices"
[20:10] <nickrud> amrcidiot: df -h, the one mounted on "/"
[20:10] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, your modules seem to be ok
[20:10] <_hopex> sjovan: what is btw?
[20:11] <sjovan> _hopex: by the way
[20:11] <magnetron> BrightEyes`: it's ' .bashrc '
[20:11] <DisabledDuck> whats a good torrent client?
[20:11] <bmk789_> DisabledDuck: azureus
[20:11] <blizzkid> DisabledDuck, the standard torrent client works fine for me
[20:11] <Culb> i use deluge
[20:11] <amrcidiot> k, thanks, i'll check back when i
[20:11] <amrcidiot> *i'm in linux
[20:12] <aolaus> for anybody who has problems with the fan running
[20:12] <_hopex> sjovan: it tryed using MySQL Query browser, telnet and Firefox (the .bin file)
[20:12] <magnetron> !deluge > DisabledDuck
[20:12] <neverblue> DisabledDuck, ktorrent, u wont go back to anything else
[20:12] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, the user has the right, but root has no rights? whatś up that?
[20:12] <aolaus> for me at least, it was the goddamned power management of my goddamned wireless card
[20:12] <nickrud> !ohmy | aolaus
[20:12] <ubotu> aolaus: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:12] <sjovan> _hopex: so what you want is a remote terminal yes?
[20:12] <Punker> as.
[20:12] <blizzkid> that's normal RandomUsr
[20:12] <RandomUsr> OK
[20:13] <_hopex> sjovan: that's it! exactly
[20:13] <antonino> ciao
[20:13] <aolaus> @reboot #hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[20:13] <aolaus> we're all atheists anyway, right?
[20:13] <aolaus> whoops
[20:13] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, if everything seems to be in order, whatś next?
[20:13] <magnetron> !o4o > aolaus
[20:13] <xstat> hello!!
[20:13] <Some_Person> How do I try out the nVidia driver on the live cd for Gutsy?
[20:13] <blizzkid> trying to think RandomUsr :)
[20:14] <Skeesh> can anyone help me through the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html ? I'm having some difficulties with the commands
[20:14] <bullgard4> tatters: Would you share the opinion that Ubuntu does this for the case that you plug in a bluetooth device with an USB plug?
[20:14] <PurpZeY> Can someone just help me out to get rid of a window? I can't force quit it and it isn't in session manager
[20:14] <xstat> i am here because i need some advice, could someone give me an opinion??
[20:14] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, thank you for your help, randomusr attempting modprobe Patience
[20:14] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, you have a livecd at hand?
[20:14] <sjovan> _hopex: sudo apt-get install openssh-client && and sudo apt-get install putty
[20:14] <riotkittie> xstat: perhaps. what do you need on opinion on.
[20:14] <revx> im using kopete..but seems i cant connect my using my yahoo account....
[20:14] <kritzstapf> !w32codecs
[20:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[20:14] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, oooh hang on a moment
[20:15] <xstat> i've recently installed ubuntu with intentions of not going back to windows
[20:15] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, the Alternate CD
[20:15] <atlfalcons866> how much space does the journal take
[20:15] <xstat> but i have a problem
[20:15] <kritzstapf> where do i get w32codecs for gutsy?
[20:15] <sjovan> _hopex: you can run putty both on a windows and linux computer. it's for logging in to a ssh-server
[20:15] <kritzstapf> !codecs
[20:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:15] <riotkittie> and this promblem is.... ?
[20:15] <xstat> i made some applications for win to manage some work information, in Visual Basic
[20:15] <xstat> working with MySQL
[20:16] <sedeki> divx/xvid for ubuntu/kubuntu??
[20:16] <_hopex> sjovan: openssh-client was installed and putty is coming...
[20:16] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, if you had a livecd, you could boot that to check if it works, and check what modules get loaded
[20:16] <sjovan> _hopex: good good
[20:16] <alexander> kritzstapf win32codecs comes with mplayer
[20:16] <coldboot> I'm trying to compile libc6 on Ubuntu, but the compiler doesn't have unwind support. Does anyone know where to get one from the repository?
[20:16] <xstat> now i want to start a new development for linux but i don't really know wich language is the best
[20:16] <libervisco> hr.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[20:16] <_hopex> sjovan: done
[20:16] <blizzkid> xstat, C :)
[20:16] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, any recommendations on a CD to use?
[20:16] <src> xstat, best for what?
[20:17] <blizzkid> RandomUsr, the ubuntu livecd
[20:17] <RandomUsr> does the Alt CD boot live too?
[20:17] <sjovan> _hopex: so try localhost:port in putty
[20:17] <kritzstapf> alexander: huh, i want to play wma-streams with totem-xine
[20:17] <xstat> it's a simple application, it only makes querys to mysql server and displays information, it would make some updates too
[20:17] <blizzkid> no RandomUsr , it's completely different
[20:17] <revx> any idea out there...already config my kopete but still cant connect using my Yahoo account...the smiley icon just keep on dancen but no connect
[20:17] <RandomUsr> I figured
[20:17] <jos> were to go for 8.04 disto update etc/apt/sources.list doint gen find it
[20:17] <xstat> i thought about web based languaje as PHP
[20:18] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, iĺl try that out and follow up later on
[20:18] <blizzkid> xstat, you could do it in php
[20:18] <blizzkid> k, good luck RandomUsr
[20:18] <fyrestrtr> !source-o-matic | jos
[20:18] <ubotu> jos: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[20:18] <RandomUsr> blizzkid, thanks for your help
[20:18] <RandomUsr> piece
[20:18] <moparisthebest> if I compile my own kernel, is there any way of compiling my own linux-restricted-modules for it?
[20:18] <blizzkid> np RandomUsr
[20:18] <xstat> but i don't really know how it works... i don't need an apache server running, it will be only for local use
[20:18] <fyrestrtr> jos: there is no 8.04 yet.
[20:18] <_hopex> sjovan: after trying localhost:3306 SSH: Server unexpectedly closed network connection.
[20:18] <src> xstat, you don't need apache to write php scripts
[20:18] <fyrestrtr> moparisthebest: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[20:18] <blizzkid> xstat, if you want to use php, you'll need apache to run them
[20:19] <jos> fyrestrtr> some are testing it olredy
[20:19] <jos> ?
[20:19] <fyrestrtr> who?
[20:19] <sedeki> can someone help me with xvid videos? i can't play them (kubuntu)
[20:19] <sjovan> _hopex send me your ip in a pm
[20:19] <napster> where can i paste something?
[20:19] <jos> doint no
[20:19] <jos> it on the net
[20:19] <xstat> but i think kubuntu 7.10 does not comes with any php version
[20:19] <alexander> sedeki use mplayer
[20:19] <src> xstat, php will do the trick for you, do would python, perl
[20:19] <fyrestrtr> jos: there is no release afaik.
[20:19] <moparisthebest> fyrestrtr, for different various reasons, speed, optimization, things that the default kernel doesn't have, newer version etc etc
[20:19] <jos> wil look for the site
[20:19] <moparisthebest> but I need one restricted module
[20:19] <xstat> what do i have to install
[20:19] <lammy_> after upgrading  from feisty to gibbon i have problems with my sources.list - some archives can't be connected - can someone help please?
[20:19] <moparisthebest> and I cant figure it out
[20:19] <sjovan> _hopex: but why did you cange the port? just use the standard 22
[20:19] <src> xstat, php5 :)
[20:19] <blizzkid> xstat, google for lamp xubuntu
[20:20] <sjovan> _hopex: you have to register to send a pm on this IRC server
[20:20] <fyrestrtr> moparisthebest: do you know what options to enable for all this? Sorry to ask, but a lot of people who ask that kind of question really don't need to compile a kernel (also, those who know how to compile, usually know how to setup the system to compile it ;))
[20:20] <Skeesh> can anyone help me through the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html ? I'm having some difficulties with the commands
[20:20] <_hopex> sjovan: Connection refused.
[20:20] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: describe the problem you are having.
[20:20] <EtteSB> ubuntu is naming the file type (ext2, ext3 or what ever) as linux i cant find out what it actaly is
[20:20] <xstat> so, i can write PHP scripts and run them locally without any apache running right?
[20:21] <blizzkid> no xstat
[20:21] <sjovan> _hopex: yes, but you have to change it back to port 22
[20:21] <fyrestrtr> EtteSB: mount
[20:21] <src> xstat, yes
[20:21] <Skeesh> fyre: I format my USB drive as a single FAT16 partition. I do  zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb1 as directed, and it turns the drive into this: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2481/whatthechristyh1.png
[20:21] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr*
[20:21] <moparisthebest> fyrestrtr, I copy the .config over from the running ubuntu kernel and make the few changes I want, that way I can't mess up :)
[20:21] <_hopex> sjovan: Connection refused. port 22
[20:21] <blizzkid> src? run php without apache????
[20:21] <src> blizzkid, exactly
[20:21] <blizzkid> src, write them, ok, but run them?
[20:21] <EtteSB> its not mounted, thats why im tringto find the filesystem of it
[20:21] <fyrestrtr> _hopex: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:22] <xstat> my doubt is that i wrote a simple hello world PHP script embedded in HTML file but Firefox does not print any text... what do i need to install?
[20:22] <nickrud> EtteSB: I think you're confusing two things, the partition type and the file type.
[20:22] <bobgill> Where can I see the code that makes up the gnome menu (applications, places, system) so I can see all the commands behind the shortcuts in the menu (ie., the Wine menu etc.)
[20:22] <lammy_> after upgrading  from feisty to gibbon i have problems with my sources.list - some archives can't be connected - can someone help please?
[20:22] <erstazi> I have configured dhcpd3-server and I keep getting this: * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3 ...fail! when I restart and start (even when I stop)
[20:22] <nickrud> EtteSB: erm s/file/filesystem/
[20:22] <blizzkid> xstat, src As far as I know, you need apache to actually run php files
[20:22] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: have you verified the bootdisk compressed image via md5sum ?
[20:22] <EtteSB> forget it, found out. just stuck proc in there. seemed to work
[20:22] <pejo_> hmm is it possible to boot ubuntu from my cel phone via usb interface?
[20:22] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr, no because I do not know how to do that
[20:23] <blizzkid> pejo_, should be possible yes
[20:23] <xstat> blizzkid, that is if you want to offer a web server for outer connections...
[20:23] <src> blizzkid, php -f <your php script>
[20:23] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr, there is no md5 on the page for it
[20:23] <nickrud> EtteSB: proc is probably wrong, that's for the kernel to track process data
[20:23] <pejo_> blizzkid: i need to store some kinda image on the root directory thats all?
[20:23] <xstat> but i think that it's possible yo make a simple php script to connect and query mysql databases
[20:23] <revx> any idea out there...already config my kopete but still cant connect using my Yahoo account...the smiley icon just keep on dancen but no connect
[20:23] <_hopex> sjovan: I have to go now. Coming back in a moment. I installed server, now connected, cool ;) give me a bit of time, coming in a moment
[20:23] <blizzkid> src, ok, didn't know that, but then again, when developing websites, apache is needed anyway ;)
[20:23] <napster> Im having a problem mounting an external drive. when i was using fiesty it worked fine. i changed over to gutsy and now when i plug it in it says the device cannot be mounted. Can any1 help me out with this?
[20:24] <xstat> do you know any irc server for php discussions???
[20:24] <erstazi> xstat: ##php
[20:24] <blizzkid> pejo_, you'll need a howto on booting ubuntu from usb (google should help)
[20:24] <xstat> erastazi, thank you, i'll check it out
[20:24] <pejo_> blizzkid: i guess i would need that if i was intressed in doing such thing
[20:24] <blizzkid> napster, a harddrive?
[20:24] <src> blizzkid, he's not developing web sites
[20:24] <napster> yes
[20:25] <napster> blizzkid: yes. usb
[20:25] <blizzkid> src, I know, I meant I am ;)
[20:25] <src> blizzkid, any porn sites!?
[20:25] <blizzkid> napster, formatted as ntfs?
[20:25] <napster> blizzkid: yes. As far as i know
[20:25] <blizzkid> src, nopes, only serious stuff ;)
[20:25] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: try the flexible method.
[20:25] <src> blizzkid, porn is a billion dollar business. i call that dead serious
[20:25] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: as I have known this to work.
[20:25] <blizzkid> napster, had the exact same issue. try sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[20:26] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr, ok
[20:26] <blizzkid> src, I was referring to serious as in boring ;)
[20:26] <magnetron> !offtopic | src blizzkid
[20:26] <ubotu> src blizzkid: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:27] <src> excuse magnetron, i was talking about ubuntu porn
[20:27] <lammy_> how can i add a new icq-conrtact with pidgin??
[20:27] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr, I got it to zcat correctly, but it says there's no room on the disk to add an ISO image, even though it's a 1 gig disk and the stuff on it already is only 8 megs
[20:27] <sjovan>  _hopex: yea, just send me a msg
[20:27] <CesarAndreu> hello, I have ubuntu 7.04 and I wish to erase my current Ubuntu to upgrade to 7.10, I already have the ISO and I read that you can boot up from a pendrive, I'd like to do this as well
[20:28] <rustyjuggler> how do I get my KDE apps to get a more GNOME-like look?
[20:28] <magnetron> src: please talk about ubuntu porn with the nice fellas in #ubuntu-offtopic , and use this channel for ubuntu support. thank you
[20:28] <agroker> what is a current best solution for bug #59695?
[20:28] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: you could overwrite it but you could just upgrade
[20:28] <fyrestrtr> Skeesh: zcat causes the file system to report incorrect file sizes, you need to format the disk and do it from scratch.
[20:28] <xTheGoat121x> ...from the Gutsy command line (recovery mode), is there a way to reset the video drivers to their original state?
[20:28] <hypn0> lammy_: you can't figure it out :-O add an account, then choose the protocol
[20:28] <CesarAndreu> I want to erase the current ubuntu
[20:28] <Skeesh> fyrestrtr, darn
[20:28] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: the LiveCD will allow you to do that
[20:28] <Taras> anyone knows how to use ettercap ?
[20:28] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: ISO == LiveCD
[20:28] <CesarAndreu> ok, so just boot it up and write over it?
[20:28] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: that will work
[20:28] <fyrestrtr> xTheGoat121x: restore the xorg backup.
[20:29] <CesarAndreu> ok, thank you, could you tell me how to run the iso from a pendrive?
[20:29] <fyrestrtr> xTheGoat121x: the xorg.conf backup, there should be one called xorg.conf.1
[20:29] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: make sure you select the correct partition if you have more than one partition
[20:29] <xTheGoat121x> fyrestrtr, where would I find that?
[20:29] <fyrestrtr> xTheGoat121x: /etc/X11/
[20:29] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: your bios will need to have USB as a boot option
[20:29] <hypn0> oh lammy, I didn't read your question properly, sorry, add a buddy :-)
[20:29] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: besides that, I cannot help you
[20:29] <flixh> agroker: does hdparm -B and hdparm -S work for you?
[20:29] <elwario91> hello
[20:29] <CesarAndreu> ah, I see, so I should just place the ISO alone on the pendrive?
[20:29] <elwario91> can you use modules compiled on another kernel version on a new kernel?
[20:29] <blizzkid> CesarAndreu, booting the iso from a pendrive is a real pain in the ..., I did it, but it's not simple to do
[20:29] <agroker> flixh, I did not try those yet (yes, saw them in Paul's blog)
[20:29] <creepindacellar> !motd
[20:30] <RivaeAerya> Hello all. I'm experiencing random crashes lately which prevent me from doing anything, even switching with Ctrl+Alt+F1 to the REAL console (tty's), and i'm forced to reboot my machine. I suspect it's because of compiz fusion. Why does this happen?
[20:30] <CesarAndreu> ok, I'll go get a CD then
[20:30] <erstazi> I have configured dhcpd3-server and I keep getting this: * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3 ...fail! when I restart and start (even when I stop)
[20:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:30] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: the CD is a lot easier
[20:30] <agroker> flixh, but was wondering if there is any "official" recommndation in existance...
[20:30] <src> CesarAndreu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?highlight=%28LiveUsb%29
[20:30] <CesarAndreu> thank you
 : yes - but how can i ask a icq-contact for authorization ?
[20:30] <creepindacellar> !slow interent
[20:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slow interent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:30] <src> CesarAndreu, and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:31] <flixh> agroker: the bug seems to be officially ignored. so no, no recommendations
[20:31] <creepindacellar> !slow internet
[20:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slow internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:31] <blizzkid> erstazi, to boot the iso from a pendrive, you have to set up 2 partitions, one holding the iso, and one holding vmlinuz, and initrd, but not the ones included in the iso ;)
[20:31] <CesarAndreu> thank you
[20:31] <erstazi> blizzkid: not me
[20:31] <erstazi> blizzkid: wrong person
[20:31] <fyrestrtr> RivaeAerya: disable compiz fusion, it is not production quality yet and still has some bugs.
[20:31] <agroker> flixh, you will laugh, I read about this bug today morning on the blog of certain linux hater ;-)
[20:31] <creepindacellar> !wireless
[20:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:31] <CesarAndreu> aah, too much work, I'll write a CD
[20:31] <blizzkid> erstazi, neh, I saw you said you didn't know how to do it, so I gave you an advice ;)
[20:31] <erstazi> blizzkid: I didn't say I didn't
[20:31] <maniaxmax> is there a way to remove the sda1 drive from my desktop?
[20:32] <erstazi> but besides doing a USB boot, thats all
[20:32] <blizzkid> wise decision CesarAndreu
[20:32] <erstazi> some bios' do not have the option to boot from USB
[20:32] <flixh> agroker: yeah, it's very good troll food :-(
[20:32] <CesarAndreu> I think mine doesn't
[20:32] <RivaeAerya> fyrestrtr: i'd rather not.
[20:32] <src> maniaxmax, comment out the entry from /etc/fstab and umount it
[20:32] <NDPTAL85> Alrighty than
[20:32] <xTheGoat121x> fyrestrtr, I don't often work in the CLI... what would the command be to rename that file?
[20:32] <agroker> flixh, currently I got 80K Load_cycles on my dell note after ~1 year usage
[20:32] <blizzkid> CesarAndreu, you're in ubuntu now, right?
[20:32] <CesarAndreu> no, I'm in Vista
[20:32] <agroker> flixh, unfortunately :-(
[20:32] <NDPTAL85> My Ubuntu 7.10 install seems to shut off whenever the CPU gets really busy. Never did this with previous versions. Any idea on how to stop this?
[20:32] <maniaxmax> src: ok ill try that, thanks
[20:32] <flixh> argoker: does not sound too bad, i got roughly 400000 after 2 years
[20:33] <RivaeAerya> fyrestrtr: although strange thing is, this did not happen yesterday and the days before. It started happening today, and compiz fusion has always been on. But i've been meddling with the settings lately
[20:33] <erstazi> NDPTAL85: laptop?
[20:33] <blizzkid> CesarAndreu, I mean, the pc you want to install gutsy on, is feisty, right?
[20:33] <fyrestrtr> xTheGoat121x: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf-original && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo shutdown -r now
[20:33] <NDPTAL85> erstazi: YEah a Lattitude 400 or so
[20:33] <CesarAndreu> fiesty is 7.04?
[20:33] <fyrestrtr> RivaeAerya: unmeddle then :)
[20:33] <blizzkid> yes
[20:33] <erstazi> NDPTAL85: might be the hard drive power saving settings
[20:33] <agroker> flixh, ironically, I`m forced to used a rhel derivative at work, so asking for help at #rhel I used to als
[20:33] <IneedHelp> I dont know how to load the GUI,... I just installed the latest version of Ubuntu....   how do I get to the GUI???
[20:33] <agroker> ways mention how things work in ubuntu :-))))
[20:33] <RivaeAerya> fyrestrtr: i don't know how to reset it all
[20:33] <blizzkid> yes CesarAndreu
[20:34] <sjovan> IneedHelp: xinit
[20:34] <CesarAndreu> hold on, I'm going to go upstairs to look for a blank CD
[20:34] <NDPTAL85> erstazi: Are the default settings different from 7.04?
[20:34] <IneedHelp> ?
[20:34] <napster_> blizzkid: i tried it and it sed i already had the latest version. and it still wont mount
[20:34] <CesarAndreu> I can write the ISO to a DVD, right?
[20:34] <sjovan> IneedHelp: type xinit in the terminal...
[20:34] <blizzkid> CesarAndreu, you don't really need a cd
[20:34] <erstazi> NDPTAL85: I would google up on it, it has changed and causing some issues with power saving settings for laptops
[20:34] <fyrestrtr> RivaeAerya: ask in !compiz
[20:34] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: yes
[20:34] <CesarAndreu> brb
[20:34] <blizzkid> napster_, what does dmesg tell you?
[20:34] <erstazi> CesarAndreu: and CD of course (:
[20:34] <IneedHelp> hmm.... it goes out of range... My monitor says out of range of 60 hz
[20:35] <napster_> blizzkid: sudo dmesg? or just dmesg?
[20:35] <flixh> agroker: well, at work I forced to Suse, which is a pain. But as this bug is not taken care of and I cannot upgrade to gutsy because of another I am seriousely considering switching to Etch.
[20:35] <blizzkid> just dmesg will do napster_
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:5960 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Trying again with indirect rendering:
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for Composite extension: present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Comparing resolution (1440x900) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed.
[20:35] <sjovan> IneedHelp: then you prob. need to reconfigure xorg.conf
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for FBConfig: present.
[20:35] <dgjones> !paste
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:35] <RivaeAerya> Starting gtk-window-decorator
[20:35] <erstazi> !paste | RivaeAerya
[20:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:35] <codename> any good MAC themes I can download
[20:35] <napster_> where can i paste it for you. im a noob and i dont understand this stuff
[20:35] <ubotu> RivaeAerya: please see above
[20:35] <codename> like MAC icons
[20:35] <agroker> flixh, isnt'
[20:35] <agroker>  flixh , isn't Etch vulnerable too?
[20:36] <IneedHelp> sjovan how do I reconfigure it?
[20:36] <blizzkid> !paste | napster_
[20:36] <ubotu> napster_: please see above
[20:36] <RivaeAerya> erstazi: sorry, i typed !compiz but my client then executes compiz..
[20:36] <RivaeAerya> erstazi: i should disable that
[20:36] <sjovan> IneedHelp: just aksed some one. w8 amte
[20:36] <erstazi> its ok
[20:36] <sjovan> mate*
[20:36] <fred23> how to create a directory under / and local user to access it?
[20:36] <napster_> blizzkid: i tried there and it says im spamming and wont let me paste
[20:36] <Dekkharyn> Hi there, can anyone tell me how to get the settings manager from a command line?
[20:36] <blizzkid> napster_, try pastebin.org
[20:36] <flixh> argoker: my wife's laptop (technically alomst identical to mine) doesn't show it that bad with etch as mine..
[20:36] <src> fed23, sudo mkdir /<your directory name>
[20:36] <fyrestrtr> fred23: don't create directories under /, create them under /home
[20:37] <erstazi> napster_: or try http://pastebin.ca
[20:37] <xTheGoat121x> fyrestrtr, you're a life saver
[20:37] <agroker> flixh, interesting..
[20:37] <sjovan> IneedHelp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:37] <xTheGoat121x> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[20:37] <fyrestrtr> xTheGoat121x: sure, no problem.
[20:37] <fred23> src in that case only root can see and write in that directory though
[20:37] <agroker> flixh, I wonder what's your current Load_Cycles count?
[20:37] <sjovan> IneedHelp: i just googled it
[20:37] <erstazi> fred23: unless the user changes the chown user:group
[20:37] <src> fred23, then you chown <username>:<usergroup> /<yourdir>
[20:37] <flixh> agroker: 393590
[20:38] <IneedHelp> thanks sjovan
[20:38] <sjovan> IneedHelp: np :)
[20:38] <sjovan> IneedHelp:  did it work?
[20:38] <dahitokiri> does anyone here dual boot windows and ubuntu?
[20:38] <blizzkid> yes dahitokiri
[20:38] <erstazi> dahitokiri: I do
[20:38] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: just ask the real question :)
[20:38] <IneedHelp> Looking it up sjovan.... tell you in  couple minutes
[20:39] <sjovan> hepp hepp :)
[20:39] <CesarAndreu> well, I burnt the CD, I'll go see if it all installed correctly, thank you for everything
[20:39] <dahitokiri> blizzkid, erstazi: have you two experienced any problems with the ntfs consistency when writing to the ntfs partitions from linux?
[20:39] <agroker> flixh, it's something
[20:39] <napster_> blizzkid: its at http://www.pastebin.org/6653
[20:39] <blizzkid> not yet dahitokiri
[20:39] <kritzstapf> hi, the moodbar in amarok is not working for mp3-files, how do i fix this?
[20:39] <erstazi> dahitokiri: if you have a power failure, then yes
[20:39] <dahitokiri> erstazi: haven't had one
[20:39] <agroker> flixh, I hate to think about but do you guess people may blame the hardware failures on ubuntu inc?
[20:39] <blizzkid> it's empty napster_ ?
[20:39] <erstazi> dahitokiri: ok, what are the issues? when you boot to windows that it shows?
[20:39] <dahitokiri> erstazi: i'm using win2k's ntfs
[20:39] <bluefox83>  i've never been able to get the moodbar to work correctly
[20:39] <sjovan> kritzstap: a good start would be paste bin the error you get
[20:40] <erstazi> dahitokiri: do you have ntfs-3g installed on ubuntu?
[20:40] <dahitokiri> erstazi: yes
[20:40] <napster_> blizzkid: its at http://www.pastebin.org/6653...definately there...just checked
[20:40] <flixh> agroker: I'm pretty sure people will. Whether it's justified or not is a completely different story and of course you can never proove it.
[20:40] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: is this for internal disks or external?
[20:41]  * erstazi shall be back
[20:41] <n2diy> Firefox froze on me, and I can't close it.  I see firefox-bin running in top, would killing that work?
[20:41] <fyrestrtr> n2diy: probably
[20:41] <Lawkie> hi, does anyone know how to get the brightness applet to work on a dell inspiron 1501 ??
[20:41] <blizzkid> napster_, as far as I can tell at first glance, it's connected
[20:42] <agroker> flixh, if what Paul writes is true then one has documentable smartctl outputs
[20:42] <chetnick> is there any way to make this icons smaller in ubuntu ?
[20:42] <blizzkid> napster_, try this: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[20:42] <dahitokiri> erstazi: i was downloading stuff from torrents on ubuntu onto my windows' drive. however, whenever i had the programs (i used multiple, to see if it was a broader problem) recheck the files, they always had missing parts. i bootted into windows and used utorrent to download the same files to continue where the linux ones had downloaded them and the same thing happened. finally i copied the incomplete files into a different director
[20:42] <SJrX> Can I upgrade from Ubuntu 6.06 to Ubuntu Server whatever there is now, easily?
[20:42] <minimec> chetnick: What icons? The icons of Nautilus?
[20:42] <JohnFlux> I want to print a dozen images on a single page - any ideas how to do this?
[20:42] <napster_> blizzkid: now?
[20:42] <blizzkid> napster_, then try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[20:42] <fyrestrtr> SJrX: no.
[20:43] <blizzkid> napster_, if the disk is connected to your pc, yes
[20:43] <SJrX> whatabout Ubuntu Server 6.06 to whatever there is now?
[20:43] <StinkyStank> hello
[20:43] <void^> agroker: gpl software is distributed without a guarantee. however - ubuntu doesn't modify disk parameters by default so those people having problems are most likely suffering from bad default settings.. in that case they can file a complaint with the disk manufacturer :)
[20:43] <StinkyStank> just a quick question
[20:43] <flixh> agroker, sure but how do you know your harddrive died because the heads were mechanically damaged due to parking/unparking?
[20:43] <dahitokiri> blizzkid: if ntfs-3g is installed using ubuntu's package manager, do i still need to use it with mount manually?
[20:43] <blizzkid> SJrX, as far as I know, you can't in one go
[20:43] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: depending on how you have setup your torrents; if your clients are pre-reserving disk space, then this is likely the cause.
[20:44] <blizzkid> yes dahitokiri
[20:44] <SJrX> diabolical
[20:44] <StinkyStank> how do i go to full screen on gnome rdp?
[20:44] <napster_> blizzkid: it gives the same thing as when i just double click on the icon for it
[20:44] <nickrud> SJrX: no, you'd need to upgrade thru edgy & feisty, since upgrades are only supported from on release to the next
[20:44] <blizzkid> napster_, and that is?
[20:44] <IMYojimbo> anyone use Eclipse Jigloo?
[20:44] <SJrX> nickrud but I can upgrade right?
[20:44] <flixh> void^, looking at some comments from Blue on the various bug reports, it looks as if Ubuntu IS changing drive parameters!
[20:44] <SJrX> I'm looking at getting a Virtual Server, that has Ubuntu 6.06
[20:44] <SJrX> on it, so I want to upgrade it
[20:44] <nickrud> SJrX: sure; but if you have a lot of apps installed, it might make sense to reinstall
[20:44] <dahitokiri> fyrestrtr: so i should have them not pre-allocate any space? and i should use ntfs-3g manually with mount?
[20:44] <StinkyStank> I tried ctrl alt and enter and it makes the screen bigger but not the desktop window
[20:44] <agroker> void^, you agree this situation is harmful to ubuntu movement as a whole?
[20:44] <minus> I've been reading some faqs and wikis, but I still don't get how Im supposed to make one of my disks to automount at startup. I don't know which settings im supposed to use in the fstab. I want it to be automounted at startup, full read/write permissions by the user id 1000 and mount/unmountable by the user id 1000. Can someone tell me how I should do?
[20:44] <SJrX> nickrud no probably not
[20:44] <SJrX> thanks
[20:45] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: yes, and no.
[20:45] <napster_> blizzkid: http://www.pastebin.org/6654
[20:45] <maniaxmax> Im missing the box that shows up when you log in that shows you everything loading, anyone know how to get that back?
[20:45] <agroker> flixh, unless the manufacturer opens is for me
[20:45] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: and don't use multiple torrent clients from Windows and Linux to download the same torrent on ntfs; it is actually safer to mount the ext3 in Windows and do it that way.
[20:45] <quantumsummers> Can anyone help me fix NetworkManager, its stuck on manual configuration?
[20:45] <src> minus, why not use pmount?
[20:45] <dahitokiri> fyrestrtr: what about what blizzkid just said?
[20:45] <minus> src, never heard of it? xD
[20:45] <void^> agroker: i don't know. i just think this thing is being hyped.
[20:46] <blizzkid> Well napster_ the error message exactly tells you what to do ;)
[20:46] <EtteSB> anyone know the command to delete files through terminal?
[20:46] <quantumsummers> rm
[20:46] <napster_> blizzkid: that whole thing in windows?
[20:46] <quantumsummers> EtteSB: rm
[20:46] <src> minus, read into it. dunno if it's what you're looking for
[20:46] <sjovan> quantumsu: just fix things in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:46] <agroker> void^, obviously there are gloating haters (I got this news from the blog of one of those)
[20:46] <EtteSB> thanks
[20:46] <minimec> quantumsummers :here is a checkbox in <system<networkyyour_wifi
[20:46] <flixh> agroker: well that's probably a lot more expensive and/or a lot more hazzle than getting a new disc and use your backup
[20:46] <sjovan> quantumsu: what is the problem?
[20:46] <blizzkid> yes napster_ although I'm sure there must be an other way. Hold on...
[20:46] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: no, that cannot be true since you are able to write to the files.
[20:46] <IneedHelp> hmmm
[20:47] <napster_> blizzkid: k
[20:47] <dahitokiri> fyrestrtr: alright, that's what i thought
[20:47] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: I have never had to manually mount with ntfs-3g, I just activated it from the system setting.
[20:47] <IneedHelp> sjovan I seem to have found how to edit it... but the file is empty?
[20:47] <void^> flixh: well, i don't know if there are cases when laptop_mode is enabled by default, would have to grep through the installer's source to make sure..
[20:47] <elwario91> can you use modules compiled on another kernel version on a new kernel?
[20:47] <StinkyStank> hi there.  just wondering if anyone can help?
[20:47] <fyrestrtr> elwario91: no.
[20:47] <dahitokiri> fyrestrtr: and you've never had any problems? the only thing that's slightly weird with my system is that i'm using win2k
[20:47] <maniaxmax> Anyone know how to get the loading box back up that shows up when you log in?
[20:47] <fyrestrtr> StinkyStank: we won't know unless you ask a question.
[20:47] <sjovan> IneedHelp: what is empty? did you reconfigure it?
[20:47] <quantumsummers> sjovan: I'm stuck in manual configuration & I can't get it to auto config the network interfaces
[20:47] <dahitokiri> maniaxmax: gdm
[20:47] <StinkyStank> oh i already did :)
[20:48] <StinkyStank> I'll redo it
[20:48] <kl4m> Can I tell netstat to show only connexions for an interface
[20:48] <StinkyStank> how do i go to full screen on gnome rdp?
[20:48] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: I have not, but that doesn't mean problems don't arise. The majority of my problems are with external disks -- when I don't mount them cleanly, ubuntu refuses to mount them.
[20:48] <StinkyStank> I tried ctrl alt and enter and it makes the screen bigger but not the desktop window
[20:48] <T`> hi guys.. anyone here know how i can install an smp kernel on ubuntu ?
[20:48] <blizzkid> napster_, sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[20:48] <sjovan> quantumsu: auto like getting a ip from the router? is that what you mean?
[20:48] <T`> i have a core duo but only see one core
[20:48] <fyrestrtr> dahitokiri: I have also used the ext3 driver for Windows with great success an no such issues.
[20:48] <maniaxmax> dahitokiri: what is that?
[20:48] <IneedHelp> I opened it with...sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:48] <flixh> void^: according to Blue's comments he just exchanged hdparm with a logging script in a clean install, and it is called with the harmfull hdparm -B 1, so it does not really matter if laptop_mode is enabled or not.
[20:48] <IneedHelp> but there is nothing displaying on the screen
[20:48] <dahitokiri> maniaxmax: that's application that launches the login screen
[20:48] <quantumsummers> sjovan: like the auto discovery mode for network manager
[20:49] <minimec> maniaxmax: I think you have to install gnome-splash-manager
[20:49] <sjovan> IneedHelp: after teh reconfigure i think you need to restart. try that. and have sjovan: infront of the text, so the msg gets highlited
[20:49] <maniaxmax> minimec: ok ill try that, thanks
[20:49] <dahitokiri> fyrestrtr: yeah, but my linux drive is only 8 gb, so i see no point in mounting it on my windows. i was looking forward to basically switching to linux for all my needs since ntfs writing is available now
[20:49] <blizzkid> napster_, you installed ntfsprogs?
[20:49] <napster_> blizzkid: still wont mount
[20:49] <quantumsummers> sjovan: it seems to be in manual config mode & I can't get it off that mode
[20:49] <sjovan> quantumsu: is it a wireless issue or?
[20:50] <IneedHelp> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:50] <IneedHelp> whoops
[20:50] <napster_> blizzkid: yes
[20:50] <IneedHelp> sjovan: ahhh sorry... didnt know :)
[20:50] <quantumsummers> sjovan: both wired & wireless, it was working fine then I messed it up
[20:50] <bobgill> Can I take an ext3 partition of say 200gb which has 100gb of data on it already and make a new partition out of it, ie., taking 50gb off it and making a new partition ??
[20:50] <blizzkid> napster_, after you installed ntfsprogs, do (sudo) ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[20:50] <sjovan> ineedhelp: np :)
[20:50] <flixh> void^, BTW: for me laptop_mode reduces the Load_Cycle to (still to high) 2-5/min, without it's up to 10/min...
[20:50] <svilla> hola
[20:50] <sjovan> ineedhelp: but try a re-start
[20:50] <Comrade-Sergei> besides dd whats a good gui based tool to clone a HDD?
[20:50] <napster_> blizzkid: then?
[20:51] <minimec> maniaxmax: it's gnome-splashscreen--manager ;)
[20:51] <StinkyStank> no ideas? re:full screen gnome rdp?
[20:51] <blizzkid> napster_, it'll try to correct errors
[20:51] <napster_> blizzkid: it worked...u r a king...thank u so much
[20:51] <quantumsummers> sjovan: enable roaming is checked but it won't de-config for some reason
[20:51] <svilla> i would put mi contact list in pidgin showing the e-mail it's posible?
[20:51] <blizzkid> np napster_
[20:51] <void^> flixh: i've just grepped my ubuntu systems for calls to hdparm and traced them back .. i'll use a logging script just to be sure..
[20:51] <napster_> blizzkid: will i have 2 ever do it again?
[20:51] <IneedHelp> sjovan: the root login is the one I made the "user" from when I installed correct?
[20:51] <dahitokiri> blizzkid: what does ntfsfix do?
[20:52] <blizzkid> napster_, if you use the disk on windows too: possibly, if not: probably not
[20:52] <sjovan> quantumsu: can you pm?
[20:52] <quantumsummers> yes
[20:52] <sjovan> ineedhelp: yes
[20:52] <napster_> kewl
[20:52] <napster_> thnx
[20:52] <[Thom]> How can I find a large example of a SMTP server log?  An open relay isn't a great option, but would work in a pinch I suppose.
[20:52] <blizzkid> dahitokiri, it tries to correct errors in the MFT
[20:52] <svilla> how could i put mi contact list in pidgin showing the e-mail it's posible?
[20:52] <StinkyStank> ok i'll try again later
[20:52] <dahitokiri> blizzkid: so on windows if chkdsk is showing errors for my ntfs disks, i can/should run ntfsfix on linux on them?
[20:52] <sjovan> svilla: don't use pidgin :)
[20:52] <StinkyStank> you all seem busy
[20:53] <StinkyStank> :)
[20:53] <Comrade-Sergei> besides dd whats a good gui based tool to clone a HDD?
[20:53] <quantumsummers>  sjovan: I'm using pidgin...I have IMed/PMed you
[20:53] <blizzkid> dahitokiri, you can try it, but I won't guarantee you it'll be succesful ;)
[20:53] <flixh> void^, I am very interested in your results. Unfortunately I only have a system that has been dist-upgraded since hoary, so no clean install...
[20:53] <MrPink> hey, I just baught a new monitor (a philips 190x 19" TFT Display) and most everything worked out of the box, but when I use the desktop Effects I get these weird vertical lines across the display... like when I drag & drop icons from one Desktop to another etc... anyone any ideas... could it have anything to do with vert & horizontal refresh rate or something ?
[20:53] <dgjones> !cloning | Comrade-Sergei
[20:53] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:53] <dahitokiri> blizzkid: thanks for the vote of confidence :P
[20:53] <flixh> void^, no clean install to test with
[20:53] <dgjones> !backup | Comrade-Sergei
[20:53] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[20:54] <dahitokiri> you guys should send those as PMs....
[20:54] <blizzkid> np dahitokiri ;)
[20:54] <PurpZeY> MrPink: Sounds like a refresh rate issue to me...I'd ask in #compiz-fusion
[20:54] <Comrade-Sergei> dgjones, i was looking for a gui, if i dint want a gui id just use dd
[20:54] <MrPink> PurpZeY: do you know where and how to check what refresh rate is set and fix it ?
[20:54] <quantumsummers>  sjovan: Are you getting my PM?
[20:55] <Robotchicken1886> do you think someone could help me
[20:55] <Zombie> Does anyone here use L2TP and IPSec on Ubuntu?
[20:55] <PurpZeY> MrPink: What distro b/c I think that's a xorg thing and I am still in feisty and I believe gutsy has a way of changing those things easier
[20:55] <dgjones> Comrade-Sergei, there's possibly something in the ubotu's backup links
[20:55] <riotkittie> Robotchicken1886: ask your question and find out
[20:55] <Robotchicken1886> i am having trouble downloading torrents with bittorrent
[20:55] <RvGaTe> is there a plugin that allows me to right mouse click a folder, and say: "mount on..." and specify a folder to mount it on? i find there is no easy way to do this other then the terminal... wich i hate to open each time i want some app to quickly access some network files.. (and not all apps support smb:// ftp:// etc... only local)
[20:56] <Robotchicken1886> it keeps saying problem connecting to tracker urlopen error (113, 'No route to host')
[20:56] <n2diy> fyrestrtr: ok, I killed firefox-bin, and restarted firefox, which went looking for extension updates. Then it brought up the Ubuntu welcome page, but I can't surf to any websites. Its acting like the DNS is broken?
[20:56] <PurpZeY> Robotchicken1886: Bittorrent is really a poor program, I'd suggest azureus or utorrent using wine
[20:56] <kritzstapf> hi, the moodbar in amarok is not working for mp3-files, how do i fix this?
[20:56] <XiXaQ> how can I see which processes are using the harddisk most?
[20:56] <Robotchicken1886> hmmmm maybe i will try that
[20:56] <nickrud> RvGaTe: not quite that, but have you checked out places -> connect to server ?
[20:56] <MrPink> PurpZeY: I am using gutsy
[20:56] <codename> need help installing a OSX theme
[20:56] <HyperDevil> is it possible to install Ubuntu without any absolete packages, like debian etch? only base system?
[20:56] <riaal_> in a script that involves ping (running in quiet mode), ping still echo's "ping: unknown host", how can I get ridd of this?
[20:57] <PurpZeY> Robotchicken1886: Also, sounds like you might need to open some ports or open NAT filtering on your router
[20:57] <blizzkid> HyperDevil, yes, using the alternate cd it is
[20:57] <RvGaTe> nickrud, yes, but then i have _no idea_ where it is mounted on the filesystem...
[20:57] <bulmer> riaal_-> redirect stderr to /dev/null
[20:57] <Robotchicken1886> how would i do that
[20:57] <HyperDevil> blizzkid: ok is that the server version or something?
[20:57] <Robotchicken1886> sorry im a noob
[20:57] <nickrud> RvGaTe: yeah, an issue. You are limited to apps that use gnome-vfs to access files ...
[20:57] <pike_> riaal_: 2>&1
[20:57] <blizzkid> HyperDevil, no, it's the desktop version, but the alternate cd
[20:57] <riaal_> bulmer, sounds smart, you have a syntax?
[20:57] <PurpZeY> MrPink: Well, I am not familiar with gutsy in anyway, but I know that the refresh rate/resolution stuff is in xorg and that gutsy has a built in tool to manipulate xorg...or I thought
[20:57] <bulmer> riaal_-> wait thats not an error
[20:57] <HyperDevil> ok thanks
[20:58] <Comrade-Sergei> dgjones, ok just tell me, does dd copy the entire disk or just one partition , i want it to transfer all my data including the swap to my other HDD
[20:58] <sjovan> ineedhelp: so how did it go?
[20:58] <void^> flixh: not a single call to hdparm. this is an upgraded system too, though. feisty-beta i think.
[20:58] <blizzkid> HyperDevil, obviously you can also use the server cd
[20:58] <PurpZeY> Robotchicken1886: Those are settings you need to change via your router...nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:58] <Robotchicken1886> hmmmmm
[20:58] <RvGaTe> nickrud, if you look close to the connect to server thingy, all it does is add a link to smb:// etc in the file browser bookmarks...
[20:58] <riaal_> bulmer, its "exit code" 2 witch works but it echos "unknown..."
[20:58] <riaal_> pike_, what does that mean?
[20:59] <quantumsummers> Anyone, need a bit of NetworkManager assistance here
[20:59] <MrPink> Anyone know how to manipulate xorg in gutsy to change the refresh rate?
[20:59] <IneedHelp> sjovan: its working now... I just hope I can get my Drivers to work for my ATI Radeon 1600     :)
[20:59] <IneedHelp> Thanks
[20:59] <[Thom]> Where can I find a large example of a SMTP server log?  An open relay isn't a great option, but would work in a pinch I suppose.
[20:59] <nickrud> RvGaTe: a bit more than that, but effectively you have to use apps that are gnome aware, like gedit, a few others.
[20:59] <flixh> void^, interesting. There might still of course be cases where this differs.
[20:59] <jmesquita> Guys, how do I bind ALT+TAB to a different plugin on Gutsy?
[20:59] <jmesquita> I click to change on the CCSM and nothing happens
[20:59] <sjovan> ineedhelp: that's good :)
[21:00] <daxroc> Hi all , any one using a bt headset w mic on gutsy ?
[21:00] <quantumsummers> sjovan: are you getting my PMs?
[21:00] <Robotchicken1886> im going to try installing wine and see how that works
[21:00] <bulmer> riaal_-> redirect stderr to /dev/null is  2>&1
[21:00] <Robotchicken1886> (plus i need practice with it)
[21:00] <riaal_> bulmer, whats what? $1 is ? 2 is?
[21:00] <dgjones> Comrade-Sergei, i've only used dd once or twice & not for 6 months, I can't be certain, from memory, it depends what you tell it to copy from, but could well just be a single partition rather than whole drive
[21:00] <RvGaTe> nickrud, know any good editors, im looking for something like Bluefish...? (bluefish supports only local)
[21:01] <Comrade-Sergei> dgjones, w/e ill just do it twice the drives are identical
[21:01] <blizzkid> RvGaTe, bluefish supports remote to
[21:01] <blizzkid> too
[21:01] <bulmer> riaal_-> my mistake, stdout is 1 not stderr is 2
[21:01] <IneedHelp> sjovan: Iam so excited :) LOL   I been kinda drinking... and cant wait to run something other then windows!!!!
[21:01] <daxroc> eclipse All In One!
[21:01] <RvGaTe> blizzkid, nope, not really, when i try to open a file, after using the "connect to server", the editor stays empty
[21:01] <bulmer> riaal-> i cant type...stdout is 1 and stderr is 2
[21:02] <sjovan> quantumsu: nope, if you look in your status it's telling you how yo activate pm
[21:02] <blizzkid> RvGaTe, try open from location, I used it to edit directly from ftp
[21:02] <dgjones> Comrade-Sergei, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem#head-a16d3540011f19154c917a539c3a5453e2be4310
[21:02] <flixh> void^, do mind answering a few question over this respective system? such as: are acpi, apm activ?
[21:02] <sjovan> IneedHelp: well if you are drinking... why are you playing with your computer? you should be out getting some chicks...
[21:02] <dahitokiri> so is there a way to send non-gnome apps like thunderbird to the panel effectively?
[21:02] <Comrade-Sergei> its going now thanks anyways dgjones
[21:03] <evil_tech> stupid question time. how do i mount a drive so you dont have to be root in order to write to it
[21:03] <evil_tech> ?
[21:03] <RvGaTe> blizzkid, where do you find that?
[21:03] <DevideZero> someone know where i can find more freenode servers
[21:03] <void^> flixh: this system here is a perfectly normal desktop - core2duo, acpi enabled, using x86_64
[21:03] <DevideZero> ?
[21:03] <blizzkid> RvGaTe, sorry, I meant open URL
[21:04] <IneedHelp> sjovan: lol my chick is next to me... watchin TV>.... I am about to go take a "break" but before I do I wanna make sure my drivers work
[21:04] <riaal> how to save changes to vim and now quit?
[21:04] <Cyber_Stalker> DevideZero: type /links
[21:04] <fujin_> :wq
[21:04] <blizzkid> RvGaTe, and then you type ftp://host/path/to/file
[21:04] <los> on auth.log i have some messageslike..:"...-laptop gdm[port]: gkr-pam: unlocked 'login' keyring" what does it mean?
[21:04] <nickrud> RvGaTe: have you screem? or gphpedit? (I use that one for quicky edits when I don't want to ssh in and use emacs)
[21:04] <riaal> found it :) w
[21:04] <flixh> void^, is laptop-mode-tools installes?
[21:04] <sjovan> IneedHelp: well, go to town and play some pool then :D
[21:04] <T`> hi guys.. anyone here know how i can install an smp kernel on ubuntu ?
[21:04] <RvGaTe> ok... and what if i want to have the folder listed in the tree on the left? :S
[21:04] <void^> flixh: yes
[21:04] <quantumsummers> sjovan: how would I PM you using pidgin?
[21:04] <T`> i have a core duo but only see one core
[21:04] <dahitokiri> IneedHelp: viagra tends to help fix problems "driver issues"
[21:05] <los> !gkr-pam
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkr-pam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:05] <IneedHelp> sjovan: i went ahead to the restricted drivers... and enabled my card... it installed a bunch of stuff.... now it tells me to reboot.... but last time I did that it messed up the HZ..... is there anyway to make sure it doesnt change the HZ???
[21:05] <flixh> void^, but not active I guess?
[21:05] <keegangrayson> dahitokiri: so does alcohol
[21:05] <minimec> RvGaTe: Drag&Drop the folder
[21:05] <los> !pam_unix
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam_unix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:05] <quantumsummers> !status
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:05] <dahitokiri> keegangrayson: not if you consume a liter of 100 proof vodka like i do ;)
[21:05] <los> on auth.log i have some messageslike..:"...-laptop gdm[port]: gkr-pam: unlocked 'login' keyring" what does it mean?
[21:06] <flixh> void^: have you tried suspend to ram and if it's calling hdparm on waking up?
[21:06] <los> !gkr
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <void^> flixh: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false in acpi-support
[21:06] <riaal> bulmer, if I want both stdout and stderror to /dev/null?
[21:06] <Cyber_Stalker> los use the factoids link instead of spamming the bot
[21:06] <dahitokiri> !boobs
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boobs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <dahitokiri> hahaha
[21:06] <Dekkharyn> ... lol
[21:06] <nickrud> RvGaTe: drag & drop the folder?
[21:06] <riaal> bulmer, got it from synak, thanks for helping
[21:06] <Cyber_Stalker> !ot | dahitokiri
[21:06] <ubotu> dahitokiri: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:07] <dahitokiri> Cyber_Stalker: sorry, i'll behave now.
[21:07] <void^> flixh: i don't think str works on this mainboard.. hrm, well don't think i ever tried. let's see..
[21:07] <codename> how do i install a doc
[21:07] <Cyber_Stalker> dont make me stalk you :D
[21:07] <sjovan> quantumsu: it's a server thing. not a software thing. like i said.... send me a msg and the statusbar will tell you how to enable pm on this server
[21:07] <blizzkid> codename, install a doc?
[21:07] <codename> like icon docks
[21:08] <dahitokiri> so does anyone else torrent stuff on linux onto ntfs partitions?
[21:08] <codename> icon doc
[21:08] <dahitokiri> which programs do you use and do you have any problems later with the ntfs?
[21:08] <blizzkid> codename, a mac-like dock, you mean? search for awn
[21:08] <void^> flixh: it actually works, but doesn't invoke hdparm either.
[21:08] <codename> Yeah
[21:08] <codename> search for awn?
[21:08] <quantumsummers> sjovan: I would like to PM, but I get no status notification.
[21:08] <n2diy> I just re-started Firefox, and now I can't surf the web. I can surf to my router ok, and the Welcome to Ubuntu file loads ok, but no web pages can be found?
[21:09] <Cyber_Stalker> n2diy:
[21:09] <sjovan> IneedHelp: i don't know. maby you installed the wrong drivers. but if it don't work just: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak before you do anything
[21:09] <RvGaTe> blizzkid, nickrud, minimec, thx for the help guys... at least i can get forward now :P tho im still missing the option "mount on..." in the context menu when browsing on a server... (prolly requires allot of work bcoz of the many different filesystems you can have)
[21:09] <Pici> n2diy: Sounds like a dns issue, can you ping any sites?
[21:09] <quantumsummers> !PM
[21:09] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:09] <Cyber_Stalker> n2diy: its probably your dns... i had that issue before, browse to your router and get the dns ip's from the config, then go to your network settings and remove the old ones and add the new ones
[21:09] <sjovan> quantumsu: wierd... w8. i can finde the faq for you
[21:09] <pacomontoro> debug log dumped due ....i have one log of nautilus (help)
[21:09] <quantumsummers> !PM sjovan
[21:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pm sjovan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:10] <Scala> I'm having troubles finding a way to check the bitrate of mp3 files, any suggestions?
[21:10] <rgsteele> Hey folks.  I'm trying to install php5-cli, but it looks like there's a bug in it's dependency list - should the package really not install because it depends on an older version of php5-common than I have?  Does it really only take that specific version?  http://pastebin.ca/756967
[21:10] <minimec> n2diy: open a terminal and verify nano /etc/resolv.conf Do you have any DNS Servers in it?
[21:10] <quantumsummers> PM sjovan
[21:10] <nyankochan> i have a question about upgrading to gutsy!
[21:10] <sjovan> quantumsu: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[21:10] <n2diy> Pici: Cyber_Stalker, I'm not conecting to the net through my router, but through my modem.
[21:10] <dahitokiri> so does anyone else torrent stuff on linux onto ntfs partitions? which programs do you use and do you have any problems later with the ntfs?
[21:10] <flixh> void^, ok, so it's not the case for every system and might only occur in some corner cases. For me personally it's pretty anoying and can unfortunately not be solved with hdparm -B or -S :-(
[21:10] <blizzkid> nyankochan, just ask the question ;)
[21:10] <sjovan> quantumsu: the command is /msg sjovan <sgksagjkalajsagldj>
[21:11] <nyankochan> when i try to use the update manager to upgrade it gets stuck on fetching 75 of 76
[21:11] <pacomontoro> i have a problem (log nautilus) (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[21:11] <Cyber_Stalker> n2diy: heh? why did you mention being able to browse your router then?
[21:11] <quantumsummers> is it working?
[21:11] <nyankochan> is there a way to upgrade without using the update manager or burning a CD?
[21:11] <void^> flixh: if you can't fix it with hdparm -B 255 i would assume it's a builtin "feature"
[21:11] <mark_1982> anyone use virtual box?
[21:11] <sjovan> quantumsu: no, you have to register
[21:11] <quantumsummers> ok
[21:11] <mark_1982> how do you enable the seamless mode in virtual box?
[21:12] <sjovan> quantumsu: i gave you a faq link
[21:12] <blizzkid> nyankochan, you can upgrade from an iso, but it's rather complex
[21:12] <n2diy> Cyber_Stalker, that verifies my browser is working.
[21:12] <nyankochan> yeah i'd rather stay away from isos or CDs
[21:12] <blizzkid> mark_, google for ubuntu seamless virtualization
[21:12] <n2diy> minimec: /etc/resolv.conf looks fine.
[21:12] <nyankochan> it just keeps getting stuck on the one file
[21:12] <Cyber_Stalker> n2diy: your router is your modem tho?
[21:13] <keegangrayson> anyone have any experience with webcams on ubuntu?
[21:13] <blizzkid> nyankochan, you can do it from the iso without burning it to cd
[21:13] <nyankochan> yeah i know
[21:13] <nyankochan> but that seems like a pain
[21:13] <n2diy> Cyber_Stalker, no, the modem is hooked to the phone line.
[21:13] <flixh> void^: i think it's the fault of my Samsung drive, that does not care what hdparm tells it. So in some way it's a builtin "feature" yes.
[21:13] <Cyber_Stalker> ok, does your modem have a config page?
[21:13] <n2diy> Cyber_Stalker, no.
[21:13] <sjovan> nyankocha: so why does it stop? maby you got some issues with /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:13] <nyankochan> oh well, didn't know if there was some way i could do it by the terminal
[21:14] <nyankochan> i don't know why it stops. how can i find that out?
[21:14] <Cyber_Stalker> n2diy: well its a dns issue because ive had that a load of times
[21:14] <mark_1982> how do you enable the seamless mode in virtual box?
[21:14] <Cyber_Stalker> just not sure what the defualt dns is with a modem
[21:14] <sjovan> nyankocha: have you tryed to ping the server it stops at?
[21:14] <minimec> n2diy: Did you try to access a homepage with it's ip-adress?
[21:14] <blizzkid> nyankochan, sudo apt-get update and see if all load
[21:14] <flixh> void^: at the same time the disc is specified for 600000 cycles and I'm at almost 400000 already, counting rapidly. So if it's builtin in, then it's pretty stupid.
[21:14] <void^> flixh: and that's why i think the noise about this issue is a bigger problem for hdd manufacturers than ubuntu :]
[21:14] <blizzkid> mark_, google for ubuntu seamless virtualization
[21:14] <n2diy> Cyber_Stalker, roger on that.
[21:14] <void^> +for
[21:14] <mark_1982> its gray so i cant use it in the menu...  there a way to make it so i can use it ?
[21:15] <nyankochan> cannot connect to seveas.imbrandom.com it seems
[21:15] <nyankochan> *brandon
[21:15] <n2diy> minimec: no, do you have one handy I could try?
[21:15] <blizzkid> mark_1982, google for ubuntu seamless virtualisation
[21:15] <codename> hey
[21:15] <minimec> n2diy: 134.21.214.81
[21:15] <codename> What program do i need to install to run the AWNS
[21:15] <sjovan> nyankocha: yea clean up /etc/apt/sources.list <--- a easy way to do it: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[21:15] <nickrud> nyankochan: comment out that source; in fact, comment out all the 3d party repos
[21:15] <arnducky> OMFunkyGoodness
[21:15]  * arnducky sighs
[21:15] <kritzstapf> some icons in my gnome-panel are kind of blured - http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6946/screenshot1mx0.png
[21:15] <arnducky> oops --wrong chan
[21:16] <MrPink> can someone help me set up my new monitor... some things dont seem right... I am getting some minor graphics glitches here and there... I am using gutsy and just bought a philips TFT Screen...
[21:16] <Dekkharyn> hi, my top and bottom bars have disappeared and I don't know what to do to get them back. also, my monitor settings seem to have been lost
[21:16] <codename> What program do i need to install to run the AWNS
[21:16] <flixh> void^, it probably should be. But probably it's more sales for them and bad publicity for Ubuntu, as people do not necessarly care about the complex background.
[21:16] <Dekkharyn> I reversed the changes I made to make something work in compiz, so I dunno why it's doing it
[21:16] <Trev_n00b> Hi - I have a stupid question. I've just deleted the wireless configuration applet that sits in the 'system tray' area, and can't figure out how to get it back. I tried putting 'network monitor' back, but the icon and functionality is different. Help!
[21:16] <codename> What program do i need to install to run the AWNS
[21:16] <pirate> Could someone help me? I read that you can make nautilus scripts to perform functions on a file through the right click menu but I couldn't find an easy tutorial for that. What I want to do is be able to perform 'ciso 9 infile outfile' where infile and outfile are fille in automatically depending on which file I right clicked. Can someone help me?
[21:16] <blizzkid> codename, awn _is_ a program
[21:16] <codename> Is it already installed?
[21:17] <dissection> My DVD-RW drive is not working in Ubuntu. Please help
[21:17] <blizzkid> codename, no you have to install it yourself
[21:17] <dahitokiri> Trev_n00b: right click on the panel and select add to panel
[21:17] <codename> what's the package name?
[21:17] <dahitokiri> Trev_n00b: you'll see a list of applets you can add
[21:17] <Trev_n00b> dahitokiri - I don't see the right applet in the list
[21:17] <p0d> Hi all, just popped in to see if anyone is successfully running a fully encrypted setup?
[21:17] <blizzkid> codename, it's not in the standard repo's. Google for awn
[21:18] <Trev_n00b> dahitokiri - what is it called?
[21:18] <ticopelp> I believe you want to add "notification area" applet
[21:18] <Trev_n00b> ticopelp - Thanks... that's the one
[21:18] <ticopelp> np
[21:18] <quantumsummers> sjovan: so now that I have registered, what do I do?
[21:18] <T`> anyone here know the package name to get smp kernel?
[21:18] <MrPink> here is the section of my monitor settings in my xorg.conf   http://pastebin.com/m260d471b   is that right ? ( the vertical and horizontal data is correct )
[21:19] <nyankochan> thanks yall
[21:19] <kdub432> p0d, if you're interested in that security, look into "hardened ubuntu"...
[21:19] <eternalswd> I updated from feisty to gutsy and now mozilla sunbird crashes on startup, any ideas how to fix this?
[21:19] <Some_Person> I keep having problems installing Gutsy!
[21:19] <sjovan> quantumsu: /msg sjovan <and what you want to say>
[21:20] <minimec> quantumsummers: /msg NICKSERV IDENTIFY <yourpassword>
[21:20] <Some_Person> First, the terminal on the live-cd wouldn't open, and still won't.
[21:20] <Some_Person> Second, the system froze for a while but I got it on again (still live-cd)
[21:20] <Some_Person> Third, it got an error copying files to the HD. Some sort of I/O error or something like that.
[21:21] <dissection> My DVD-RW drive is not working in Ubuntu. Please help
[21:21] <Some_Person> Can someone help me?
[21:21] <n2diy> minimec: no go with unifr.ch, or with my mail server, I think my ISP is down.
[21:21] <blizzkid> Some_Person, what error do you get?
[21:21] <MrPink> Some_Person: What speed did you burn the CD with ?
[21:21] <Some_Person> MrPink: whatever the default was
[21:21] <MrPink> Some_Person: I had simimlar problems when I burned the live CD at a too high speed
[21:21] <Bahal> Can Anyone tell me where I can get my hands on ether a precompile cedega for ubuntu or the soruce for free ?
[21:21] <criminy> I just went wireless. I am using a linksys compact wireless G USB adapter. I can get online but ever since I got it my stability has gone to heck
[21:22] <Some_Person> blizzkid: some sort of io error or something like that
[21:22] <minimec> n2diy: I do also think so ;)
[21:22] <Turgon> Hello. I had the problem which is heavily being discussed at bug #59695 with my notebook's hard disk, even though "laptop-mode" was disabled; so it is probably a HD's firmware or BIOS issue. I already got an easy workaround: "sudo hdparm -B 192 /dev/sda", but I'd like to know if it would be of any help if I post in the bug's thread or some other place my BIOS version an hard disk model (I have not done it yet because of all the posts being made. I am
[21:22] <Turgon>  not sure if another one would help or just add to the confusion). Thanks for all your altruist work.
[21:22] <blizzkid> Bahal, cedega is paid software
[21:22] <p0d> @ some_person me2 on the burn spd
[21:22] <MrPink> Some_Person: Try burning at like 4x or 8x and see if it makes a difference... but I got I/O Error too due to high burning speed
[21:22] <criminy> My desktop either freezes or just reboots
[21:22] <Bahal> I thought the soruce is free
[21:22] <Some_Person> MrPink: and the terminal?
[21:22] <esperegu> is there already a program to manage multiple machines on a network?
[21:22] <blizzkid> Some_Person, "some sort" will not do, if you want people to troubleshoot ;)
[21:22] <Bahal> atleast thats my understanding
[21:22] <IneedHelp> sjovan: The thing went out of the HZ again and I cant see whats happening
[21:22] <Dekkharyn> Hi, I have a problem, Ubuntu seems to have lost my screen resolution settings and will NOT change it when I ask it to via Screen Resolution or Screen and Graphics Preferences
[21:22] <kdub432> esperegu: ssh :-D
[21:23] <kritzstapf> some icons in my gnome-panel are kind of blured - http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6946/screenshot1mx0.png
[21:23] <IneedHelp> :(
[21:23] <blizzkid> Bahal, if the source is free, you can download it from their website
[21:23] <MrPink> Some_Person: If it is all mistakes in the Live CD that could be the problem... it can access some data and some it cant... I dont know I am just kind of guessing
[21:23] <esperegu> is there already a program to manage multiple machines on a network? (it's specificly for a computer project in a school)
[21:23] <sjovan> IneedHelp: did you make a backup of xorg as i told you?
[21:23] <esperegu> kdub432: :-)
[21:23] <Bahal> ok
[21:23] <Sitherae> Soo... does anyone here have TF2 running?
[21:23] <IneedHelp> sjovansjovansjovan
[21:23] <flixh> Turgon: I guess at the moment adding to the bug report is not a good idea, but I am just another one suffering from the bug.
[21:23] <Some_Person> MrPink: ok, I will reburn and try again next Wednesday (only day I get a chance to install)
[21:24] <IneedHelp> sjovans: I wish I was you :-/
[21:24] <IneedHelp> lol
[21:24] <federico> hi all
[21:25] <MrPink> Some_person: You might want to wait and see what other ppl say I am a bit of a newb myself.... and I wouldn't want you to waste a week because of my bad advice ^^
[21:25] <dissecti1n> My DVD-RW drive is not working in Ubuntu. Please help
[21:25] <Sitherae> federico: Hola.
[21:25] <esperegu> nobody?
[21:25] <federico> no
[21:25] <federico> it's very funny...
[21:25] <federico> go to konsole
[21:25] <flixh> Turgon: It might very well worth be documenting on a wiki page, maybe the one that is mentioned in the bug report.
[21:25] <Biju> Could anyone help me settign up my TechCom TV Tuner card. I have checked the documentation (The troubleshooting thread and the MythTv thread) and I cant get ti configured
[21:25] <federico> or terminal
[21:25] <federico> and
[21:25] <federico> type
[21:25] <federico> ":(){ :|:&};:
[21:25] <codename> can u change the where the dock sits?
[21:25] <federico> very lol
[21:25] <Turgon> flixh: thx, I'll look into that :D
[21:26] <federico> there are noobish
[21:26] <federico> :D
[21:26] <federico> ":(){ :|:&};:
[21:26] <federico> :(){ :|:&};:
[21:26] <IneedHelp> sjovans: why does it keep going out of the Hz rate when I install the driver straight from the website?
[21:26] <erUSUL> !ops | federico advising to run a DoS attack
[21:26] <ubotu> federico advising to run a DoS attack: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[21:26] <Samui> o.o
[21:26] <Seveas> well well
[21:26]  * amidaniel blinks
[21:26] <codename> ?
[21:27] <codename> can u change the where the dock sits?
[21:27] <temp1234> is there anyway to tell how much space you have left with the gnome dvd creator?
[21:27] <Pici> NO ONE TYPE WHAT federico SUGGESTED, it WILL break your system.
[21:27] <Dekkharyn> Hi there, need help, is there a way to force X to restart from command line?
[21:27] <bobgill> Can I take an ext3 partition of say 200gb which has 100gb of data on it already and make a new partition out of it, ie., taking 50gb off it and making a new partition ??
[21:27] <blizzkid> codename, check the documentation
[21:27] <blizzkid> bobgill, qtparted
[21:27] <pike_> bobgill: gparted can resize make sure it aint mounted though
[21:27] <MrPink> sjovan: Can you help me set up my Philips Monitor... it seems like the refreshrates aren't set up right or something... the text in Chatzilla (IRC Client) looks funny and when I use desktop effects I get weird vertical lines across my screen...
[21:27] <dgjones> erUSUL, you beat me to that, who in their right mind suggests a fork bomb
[21:28] <dijungal> this Screens and Graphics thing don't seem to be working!
[21:28] <bobgill> so if I unmount the partition I can resize it even with data on it, and it will be fine ??
[21:28] <erUSUL> dgjones: ;) script kiddies ?
[21:28] <sjovan> MrPink: compiz issue? go to #compiz
[21:28] <blizzkid> yes bobgill
[21:28] <IneedHelp> sjovans: why does it keep going out of the Hz rate when I install the driver straight from the website?
[21:28] <MrPink> sjovan: I dont think it is a compiz issue
[21:28] <bobgill> thank you
[21:28] <pike_> bobgill: yeah. usually if this is your / partition youd use the gparted or ubuntu livecd or remount ro i guess maybe
[21:28] <PurpZeY> sjovan: I think he just needs to get his monitor configured right in xorg
[21:28] <dgjones> erUSUL, i doubt they're old enough to be a "kiddie", script babies maybe
[21:28] <dijungal> I'm on a laptop, How do i extend my screen to an external widscreen flatscreen using this Screens and Graphics tool ?
[21:29] <MrPink> sjovan: Its probably a xorg.conf issue or something... because the text in some apps is shown in a weird way and the display error within compiz only appears with the new monitor... so it is some setting I need to change
[21:29] <Machii> Can anyone please help me with Ubuntu installation? Msg me :)
[21:29] <blizzkid> Machii, just ask your question
[21:30] <PurpZeY> MrPink: I honestly don't know specifically how to do it, but I am positive someone in #compiz-fusion would or it would be in the forums....It's not a tough question
[21:30] <erUSUL> dgjones: ;P yes probably
[21:31] <sjovan>  MrPink: i c... try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:31] <MrPink> PurpZeY: Yeah I dont think it is that difficult either, I already asked at compiz but somehow noone was able or willing to help
[21:31] <PurpZeY> MrPink: I think Sjovan is on point there.
[21:31] <Machii> blizzkid: First of all, I can't burn the image onto the CD. When I launch InfraRecorder -> Actions -> Burn Image -> ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso -> Open, I can't press "OK" to start buring :S
[21:31] <dijungal> I'm on a laptop, How do i extend my screen to an external widscreen flatscreen using this Screens and Graphics tool ?
[21:31] <KillahB> ok i have a machine i'm trying to install gutsy on... after loading the gui, it loads the desktop icons and the system hangs.  anyone know of a way to check possible causes?  the install has worked fine off the same disc on 2 other machines...
[21:32] <sjovan> ineedhelp: don't isntall the drives from the website! go to the ubuntuforum and find a howto install the drivers for your card!
[21:32] <blizzkid> Machii, I don't know Infrarecorder. Is that windows or ubuntu?
[21:32] <Machii> Windows
[21:32] <los> virtualbox or vmware and why? anyone?
[21:32] <PurpZeY> Machii: There's a DVD version and CD version...You sure you have right ISO? Also, there is a recommended tool for burning the disk, it's free and spyware free, why not use that?
[21:32] <blizzkid> Machii, you want to keep windows?
[21:32] <KillahB> los:  the free one :)
[21:33] <blizzkid> PurpZeY, if Machii wants to keep windows, I guess he could also try wubi?
[21:33] <Jowi> hi, on a server install how do I change the locale? I reconfigured localeconf, selected en_GB.UTF-8. "locale -a" show it but "locale" list everything as POSIX
[21:33] <Psi-Jack> Is there a window-manager that is actually capable (minus kwin), of resizing a window and snapping to other windows and desktop regions? I've been searching endlessly trying to find something at least halfway decent.
[21:33] <p0d> vmware :(    amd64 with no built in virt too much of a headache to use anythin else
[21:33] <Machii> PurpZeY: I downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop CD version
[21:33] <PurpZeY> blizzkid: IMO, wubi is not really installing ubuntu proper...If that's what he is looking to do Wubi is not really...I dunno...I don't think it's quite the same
[21:34] <Machii> blizzkid: No, I don't
[21:34] <anonymous_> hello, I have just installed ubuntu manualy on one of  my drives and I can't see the rest of my Hard disk drives in my computer window
[21:34] <kl4m> los: virtualbox. Free, and "seamless" mode like parallels desktop
[21:34] <PurpZeY> Machii: Ok, so why not burn the ISO using the recommended software?
[21:34] <MrPink> sjovan: Ok that was a bit weird... I basically clicked ok on a bunch of windows and then came to a window where I couldnt click ok or anything... is that normal?
[21:34] <PurpZeY> anonymous_: Are the other drives NTFS drives?
[21:34] <blizzkid> Machii, try another tool to burn it
[21:34] <anonymous_> yes
[21:34] <minus> I've set /media/Warez/ to 777 with chmod and I can still not make a directory or anything as non-root. wth am I supposed to do?
[21:34] <los> i've never used something like that before...so.. both their doing their job but i mean what are the advatages between the two of them...
[21:34] <los> difference..
[21:34] <Machii> PurpZeY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto tells me to use InfraRecorder
[21:34] <anonymous_> purpzey: yes
[21:34] <adop> is there a way to rotate cubes independently in a system with two monitors?
[21:35] <minus> I've even set chown name:name /media/Warez/
[21:35] <PurpZeY> anonymous_: You have to mount them and set them up to be read...I'm not sure how to do it in gutsy....but, it's supposed to be very easy I'm told
[21:35] <sjovan> MrPink: no, that's not normal
[21:35] <blizzkid> PurpZeY, I agree wubi is not the real thing, but he could first set up an ubuntu with wubi and then do a proper install ;)
[21:35] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, you mean snapping while resizing? I don't think so...
[21:35] <KillahB> minus:  does ftp work?  ...sorry, lame attempt at joke
[21:35] <Machii> blizzkid: I've tried Create-Burn ISO Image, but it didn't detect the CD :S
[21:35] <kl4m> los: +the "free"(beer) vmwares don't have proper shared folders, and no seamless mode (vmware fusion has it, but gotta pay)
[21:35] <los> i see :)
[21:35] <pejo_> does my ftp deamon log anything?
[21:35] <minus> KillahB, xD
[21:35] <PurpZeY> Machii: Ok, I misunderstood. Let me look at the wiki and see what the deal is
[21:35] <dijungal> anyone here know's hot to use screens and graphics?
[21:35] <los> ok
[21:35] <Machii> PurpZeY: Ok, thanks :)
[21:35] <blizzkid> kl4m, even vmware server has seamless
[21:35] <dijungal> in gusty
[21:36] <los> the official site?
[21:36] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Yes. OpenBox /sorta/ has it, but it's not very sticky. compiz /SHOULD/ have it, but I dunno how to work with it if it does. Metacity.. Well... Metacity just seems to suck all worlds down. LOL
[21:36] <pejo_> does my ftp deamon log anything?, if a file was succesfully downloaded?
[21:36] <kl4m> blizzkid: what????
[21:36] <los> of the free..
[21:36] <Malduin> Anyone know how to prevent Unbuntu from blanking (blacking out) my display after a certain amount of idle time. I've tried xset but can't get it to stop.
[21:36] <blizzkid> yes kl4m
[21:36] <anonymous_> purpzey: yes I know how to mount them but they are not there in the my computer window
[21:36] <sjovan> ineedhelp: what is the name of you card?
[21:36] <PurpZeY> Machii: You said you can't click ok?
[21:36] <blizzkid> kl4m, let me find you a guide
[21:36] <Machii> PurpZeY: Yes
[21:36] <John_R> malduin: what version of ubuntu?
[21:36] <Malduin> 7.10
[21:36] <[Cult]Proji> lo
[21:36] <dgjones> minus, have you restarted X? try creating a file/directory from a command line, i had the same problem, after the chmod, i could do it from a terminal, but X needed to be restarted to pick up the change
[21:36] <PurpZeY> anonymous_: I believe that they should not appear until they are mounted.
[21:36] <kl4m> and what about shared folders
[21:36] <Malduin> running under virtual pc 2007
[21:36] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, yeah. Metacity get less and less features as we speak :)
[21:37] <Reng> is there a codec to play wmv-hd?
[21:37] <MarcC> if I have "193 load cycle count" is that bad?
[21:37] <minus> dgjones, ok.. I'll try it out
[21:37] <burwaco> hahahhaaaaa, I'm back !!!
[21:37] <John_R> system->preferences->power management
[21:37] <PurpZeY> Machii: Seems like the download of the ISO isn't proper or something....something is not right....and I can't imagine it to be anything complicated...
[21:37] <agroker> MarcC, I have 80000
[21:37] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Heh, yeah. It's sad really. Metacity used to have more, now it's practically bare minimums that you can't even configure anymore.
[21:37] <burwaco> with a brandnew Gibbon !!!
[21:37] <anonymous_> purpzey: I don't think so but let me try
[21:37] <blizzkid> kl4m, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[21:37] <PurpZeY> Machii: Unless there is something going on that I am not understanding
[21:37] <MarcC> agroker: well, my total is 29,000 but right to the left of the result it says "193" for some reason
[21:37] <dgjones> minus, go to a teminal & cd into the directory and type "touch file" if that works the permissions have changed, its just X that needs to restart
[21:38] <MarcC> agroker: I'm trying to figure out what numbers I look at...and what they mean
[21:38] <nickrud> metacity is supposed to be brain dead, part of the original design
[21:38] <Machii> PurpZeY: Hmm, ok. Can you give me the correct download-link? :)
[21:38] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, not sure if Sawfish might handle it (metacity was based on it once upon a time). was some time ago i tried it. it is not a "modern" WM though
[21:38] <PurpZeY> Machii: It should be on that wiki page
[21:38] <KillahB> i'm trying to install gutsy, but after it loads the desktop icons the system hangs.  can anyone point me in the right direction to start troubleshooting?
[21:38] <blizzkid> Machii, you triple checked it's an empty cd?
[21:38] <hagabaka> wow, finally aiglx support in flgrx
[21:38] <Machii> blizzkid: Yep
[21:38] <minus> dgjones, nope.. still cant make folder in that disk..
[21:38] <PurpZeY> Machii: Yeah, I'm with blizzkid here...there is something very fundamental not working....
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Bleh. I never liked Sawfish either. Course, I don't like LISP, either, hence part of my dislike for Sawfish. LOL
[21:38] <hagabaka> will flgrx 8.42 be packaged gutsy updates?
[21:38] <Machii> blizzkid: I bought the CD for 20 mins ago :P
[21:39] <thorm> can anyone help me? my ubuntu won't "mount" my two sata drives !?
[21:39] <minus> thorm, what error?
[21:39] <kantor> hi, somebody knows a Linux video card benchmark/ speed test program ?
[21:39] <blizzkid> you have an empty dvd at hand Machii (and a dvd burner)?
[21:39] <dgjones> minus, there goes my idea then, sounded exactly the problem i had till i realised X needed restarting, but yours must be different
[21:39] <minus> dgjones, I guess
[21:39] <Machii> blizzkid: Nope :/
[21:39] <kl4m> blizzkid: ah with rdesktop. But still it's more setup than pressing VM key+L. I used vmware workstation and server for a while but I switched to virtualbox in a day
[21:39] <PurpZeY> kantor: Have you tried search the repos?
[21:39] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Basically... I just want to be able to resize a window decently, easily, to the maximum height allowed by the desktop regions, with the bars still visible. ;)
[21:39] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, funny, I think I've tried every WM out there but that feature I haven't even considered to look for and haven't missed. *until you mentioned it* lol
[21:40] <thorm> minus -> something about $logfile
[21:40] <kantor> PurpZeY, but I don't know the name of that program
[21:40] <blizzkid> kl4m, np, just wanted to rectify ;)
[21:40] <agroker> kantor, glxgears?
[21:40] <thorm> it says i should go into windows but i have formatted my drive
[21:40] <blizzkid> Machii, it must be something very basic
[21:40] <thorm> and it also says i might wanna try "forcing it" but i have no idea hoW!
[21:40] <kantor> thanks
[21:40] <PurpZeY> kantor: If you search in synaptic it should search descriptions so, benchmark, ought to do
[21:40] <kantor> ;-)
[21:40] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Heh. I used to always use a program in Windows, called 'allSnap', which did this. *chuckles* I've not used Linux as a desktop system in a very very long time, until recently again. Trying to get back some of the things I so enjoyed about my desktop environment.
[21:41] <ppcguy> hey all. Question. After doing some google searching. Still haven't found an answer. Have a website for college that is ie only. Tried installing ie 4. Which works to a point. But I remember sometime back being able to make firefox been seen as ie.. Is that still possible?
[21:41] <PurpZeY> Machii: Somehow, some way, you are missing something
[21:41] <blizzkid> thorm, error about MFT when mounting ntfs disk?
[21:41] <dijungal> anyone here can help me with the Screens and Graphics tool?
[21:41] <thorm> yes it is an NTFS disc
[21:41] <Scala> Hello, I want to check the bitrate on an MP3, when I check the properties of a file it just says "N/A"
[21:41] <ppcguy> which tool dijungal?
[21:41] <blizzkid> Machii, I agree with PurpZeY, triple check every basic step
[21:41] <minus> Yäy! It works
[21:41] <Sonderblade> why doesn't ubuntu automagically change the clock when you switch to winter time?
[21:42] <thorm> it says "Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use"
[21:42] <minus> Somehow the chmod got reverted
[21:42] <Stargazer> woot
[21:42] <minus> o.O
[21:42] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, yeah, I know how you feel. I sort of alternate between compiz-fusion (stand-alone), wmaker and ion3. I like them all in their own way but none is perfect.
[21:42] <blizzkid> thorm, sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXX
[21:42] <dijungal> Gusty Gibbon has a Screens and Graphics which allows u to configure multiple monitors.. but i can't get it to pickup my external monitor i have plugged into my laptop
[21:42] <Jowi> hi, on a server install how do I change the locale? I reconfigured localeconf, selected en_GB.UTF-8. "locale -a" show it but "locale" list everything as POSIX
[21:42] <blizzkid> thorm, replace XX with eg b1
[21:42] <thorm> .... where blizzkid ?
[21:42] <Machii> PurpZeY & blizzkid : Probably. I'll read some tutorials and try to figure it out :) Thanks for the help though ^^
[21:42] <timholum> i have an ubuntu samba domain controler and am trying to get an ubuntu workstation to join it. xp workstations can join the domain just fine. i just can not get ubuntu to authenticate i tryed following this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5409.html.
[21:42] <blizzkid> thorm, in your terminal
[21:42] <Dekkharyn> Hi there, I need some serious help, I killed my Ubuntu install somehow - methinks Compiz jiggery-pokery - and I need to reinstall, but I can't get resolution changes to work!
[21:42] <thorm> in applications?
[21:42] <KillahB> when installing gutsy, the system hangs right after loading desktop icons. can anyone help?
[21:43] <blizzkid> thorm, open a terminal
[21:43] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: Heh.. I was just trying out XFCE 4.. And, besides Thunar (which lacks the ssh:URI connectivity, was nice. Fast, simple and not quite perfect, but dang close.
[21:43] <thorm> ok
[21:43] <ppcguy> KillahB, did you drop into another session, log in and see what is causing the hang?
[21:43] <blizzkid> thorm, in the terminal type sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[21:43] <KillahB> its a hard lock, i have to reboot... cant switch to terminal
[21:43] <thorm> ok
[21:43] <thorm> trying that
[21:43] <Biju> is mythTv harder to configure with other applicatins like TvTime?
[21:43] <Jowi> Psi-Jack, I agree. Thunar is the only filemanager I use nowadays. and the bulk-rename is quite good.
[21:43] <pike_> Jowi: locale  then locale -a   then export LC_ALL="EN_US.UTF-8" or whatever but that will set it only for the current session
[21:44] <minus> What are the "lost+found" dirs for?
[21:44] <ppcguy> hmm. are you running a funky video chipset?
[21:44] <Psi-Jack> Jowi: I prefer Nautilus myself, cause, well, I /use/ those network vfs's. ;)
[21:44] <ManuP> aptitude cant connect to the servers (to download *.deb) it can for updating. with apt-get install i can also install packages, but not with aptittude. why and what can i do to install via aptitude?
[21:44] <blizzkid> thorm, once it's installed, type sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXX (replace XX with eg b1, or whatever the disk is called in your system)
[21:44] <Jowi> pike_, yeah, I can export it but I'm looking for a more permanent solution. thanks though.
[21:44] <RootyRootRootWoo> HI, I am having serious trouble getting CDex to work in Wine, it won't detect my drive. Ideas? (It worked before gutsy)
[21:44] <KillahB> ppcguy:  nvidia geforce 5200fx... worked with dapper/feisty/etc
[21:44] <thorm> it asks me if im root, blizzkid ?
[21:44] <thorm> how do i know that, i just installed as normally..
[21:45] <blizzkid> thorm, don't forget the sudo
[21:45] <ppcguy> same card I'm using here.. That's interesting.. Did you md5 the image?
[21:45] <dsnyders> Happy Halloween Everyone.  I want to access my home machine (main) via my internet gateway machine (gw) using VNC from a remote  machine.  Any suggestions on how to do this?
[21:45] <KillahB> no, but the same disc worked fine on my other 2 machines
[21:45] <blizzkid> dsnyders, dyndns and port triggering on your router
[21:45] <KillahB> they were intel though... this machine is amd athlon 64
[21:46] <KillahB> only real difference i guess
[21:46] <ppcguy> could have to do w/ 64 code indeed
[21:46] <burwaco> ok, I'm back, I just installed a fresh Gutsy gibbon, now I want the cube with the desktops, I'm running the ATI driver from the repos, but when I'm asking for visual effects in appearance preferences I get "The Composite extension is not available" what can I do ?
[21:46] <KillahB> even if it worked fine with early versions?
[21:46] <ppcguy> running a 32bit athlon here
[21:46] <dsnyders> blizzkid, I have a static ip address on my gw machine, so dyndns is unneccesary.
[21:46] <blizzkid> ok, that's true dsnyders :)
[21:46] <ppcguy> good question
[21:46] <ak-49> can someone help me properly setup an external USB drive. I want anyone to be able to write to it. the filesystem is vfat and here is what i currently have in my fstab. /dev/sdb1 /home/owner/500 vfat rw,suid,users,usefree,umask=000  0 0
[21:47] <blizzkid> thorm, any succes yet?
[21:47] <KillahB> hardlocks always make me think hardware problem, but with the earlier versions working...im not sure
[21:47] <bmk789> ak-49: it should be mounted on connection
[21:47] <dimitri3113> hello
[21:47] <ak-49> bmk789: it is plugged in when i turn the computer and it mounts
[21:47] <bmk789> ak-49: what kind of system is this?
[21:47] <dimitri3113> hi everyone
[21:47] <ak-49> i just don't have write access
[21:47] <ak-49> as a user
[21:47] <dimitri3113> I have a question about swap ???
[21:47] <ak-49> its ubuntu gutsy
[21:48] <erUSUL> !ask | dimitri3113
[21:48] <ubotu> dimitri3113: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:48] <dimitri3113> oki thx
[21:48] <dsnyders> blizzkid, port triggering... would that be a firewall thing?
[21:48] <ak-49> any ideas?
[21:48] <pecisk> is there a way to force --reinstall flag in apt-get to all packages included in metapackage (like build-essential)?
[21:48] <dimitri3113> !ask | how can I remove my swap partition ??
[21:48] <ubotu> how can I remove my swap partition ??: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:49] <ppcguy> what kind of drive ak-49? I've had issues with memorox drives doing the same thing
[21:49] <lochii> gosh, there are a lot of users in here
[21:49] <ak-49> ppcguy: its a seagate
[21:49] <mejo> hey,
[21:49] <John_R> malduin: system->preferences->power management
[21:49] <blizzkid> dsnyders, basically you tell the gw device to forward incoming requests on portnumber X to server Y port number Z
[21:49] <dsnyders> lochii, ubuntu is a popular os
[21:49] <amrcidiot> guys, I messed up again. I reinstalled ubuntu, but now my grub wont load.
[21:50] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, no grub at all?
[21:50] <amrcidiot> i can get onto the live cd, which im on now
[21:50] <amrcidiot> no
[21:50] <RootyRootRootWoo> HI, I am having serious trouble getting CDex to work in Wine, it won't detect my drive. Ideas? (It worked before gutsy)
[21:50] <Malduin> John_R, thanks I'll look there. I just noticed from grep that gnome-screensaver is running to so I'll try disabling that as well.
[21:50] <erUSUL> dimitri3113: just delete the line in fstab that activates it... (the partition will be still in your hard drive)
[21:50] <ak-49> the drive mounts it just says it is a read-only filesystem
[21:50] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, ok, when in the live cd, chroot to your harddisk
[21:50] <amrcidiot> it says something about intell, and then it says "Exiting whatever"
[21:50] <amrcidiot> and it doesn't exit
[21:50] <amrcidiot> it just hangs there
[21:50] <nico> hello
[21:51] <mejo> i just installed ubuntu gutsy on a hp compaq 6715s. everything works as expected except for the fact that during boot process i see a black screen, neither text information nor a bootsplash screen.
[21:51] <John_R> malduin: system-preferences-screensaver
[21:51] <amrcidiot> how do i do that?
[21:51] <dimitri3113> oki so I delete the line in fstab and mtab maybe and restart then delete ?
[21:51] <kl4m> RootyRootRootWoo: is this an upgrade?
[21:51] <nico> anyone owning a Treo?
[21:51] <lochii> I have this installer which is segfaulting, in sis_init_one, this is in sata_sis.c I believe, I dont have a SATA drive, can anybody give me some pointers on where I should investigate?
[21:51] <blizzkid> mejo, I had the same issue on my Dell. I changed /etc/usplash.conf to 640x480 and it worked
[21:51] <bmk789> ak-49: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-58b0f4b165129f43a80bba6c1c4227c490efa119
[21:51] <RootyRootRootWoo> kl4m: I always use CDex to rip CD's but since I upgraded to gutsy, it hasn't detected my CD drive
[21:51] <amrcidiot> how do i chroot to my harddisk?
[21:52] <erUSUL> dimitri3113: mtab is generated on runtime... no need to edit it
[21:52] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, man chroot
[21:52] <Malduin> John_R, Bingo that was it. its set to blank after 10 minutes. Dunno how I missed that in the menus. Thx :)
[21:52] <John_R> np
[21:52] <dsnyders> blizzkid, so I just point at the VNC port, and voila? Seems easy enough.  Is there a particular port-triggering software?
[21:52] <John_R> got me the same way
[21:52] <dimitri3113> oki thanks erUSUL I am going to try right now !!!!!!!!
[21:52] <Six_> whoa wtf
[21:52] <erUSUL> dimitri3113: then you can delete the partition and use the fre space for... dunno ;)
[21:52] <lochii> perhaps I need to stop probing for SATA devices in the installer somehow
[21:52] <John_R> and my video card wasnt set up for opengl, so the opengl screensaver crashed the desktop
[21:52] <blizzkid> dsnyders, no, what do you use as a gw device?
[21:52] <mschiff> Has someone ever tried to have two luks encrypted devices with ubuntu?
[21:52] <sjovan> ineedhelp: so how is it going? what card do you have?
[21:53] <RootyRootRootWoo> HI, I am having serious trouble getting CDex to work in Wine, it won't detect my drive. Ideas? (It worked before gutsy)
[21:53] <timholum> has anyone hear joined ubuntu to a domain?
[21:53] <ak-49> thanks bmk789 i'll check it out
[21:53] <dsnyders> blizzkid, I'm using a fedora box with ip masquerading.
[21:53] <Machiavelli> quick question for anyone, how can I stop Amarok from starting on start up?
[21:54] <revx> any idea out there...already config my kopete but still cant connect using my Yahoo account...the smiley icon just keep on dancen but no connect
[21:54] <blizzkid> dsnyders, hold on a sec
[21:54] <amrcidiot> im lost
[21:54]  * dsnyders holds
[21:55] <carter_> Hey, is anyone good with dpkg?  My system crashed during upgrade (I was being stupid and running an unstable prog) and now it won't continue the install
[21:55] <amrcidiot> what am i trying to do with chroot?
[21:55] <blizzkid> dsnyders, http://www.webservertalk.com/archive91-2004-12-655820.html might point you in the right direction
[21:55] <koshari> how do i display my networking devices in a terminal, ie, etho wlan0 ect
[21:56] <carter_> sudo ifconfig
[21:56] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, with chroot, you change the root to your harddisk instead of the cd, first step in restoring your grub
[21:56] <carter_> type your password koshari, and voila!
[21:56] <mschiff> carter_: try dpkg --configure --all
[21:57] <dsnyders> blizzkid, OK, so it's part of the NAT/ip masquerade setup.  Thanks for the link.
[21:57] <blizzkid> yw dsnyders
[21:57] <amrcidiot> what should i put for my root directory, what if i don't know it
[21:57] <carter_> mschiff, I tried that
[21:57] <carter_> but I got
[21:57] <GoetzC> hi
[21:57] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, did the livecd mount your disks?
[21:57] <carter_> x@x:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:57] <carter_> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0008' near line 2 package `libc6':
[21:57] <carter_>  `triggers-pendi' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field
[21:57] <amrcidiot> i'll check
[21:58] <GoetzC> i have a problem with some encrypted wma
[21:58] <Machiavelli> quick question for anyone, how can I stop Amarok from starting on start up?
[21:58] <GoetzC> can i play them?
[21:58] <amrcidiot> yepp
[21:58] <amrcidiot> it does
[21:58] <GoetzC> i think they have drm
[21:58] <blizzkid> what's it called? /dev/something
[21:59] <GoetzC> how can i know that?
[21:59] <amrcidiot> im not sure how to check
[21:59] <carter_> mschiff, I thought about going in and deleting the file manually.  how much would that fuck it up?
[21:59] <amrcidiot> it just says disk
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | carter_
[21:59] <ubotu> carter_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[21:59] <amrcidiot> i didn't go through terminal tho
[21:59] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, go to terminal and cd /media
[21:59] <carter_> is there a problem tonyyarusso?
[21:59] <ppcguy> Mac : http://www.google.com/search?q=disable+amarok+startup&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[21:59] <ppcguy> for you amarok question
[22:00] <ppcguy> look in the services tab
[22:00] <amrcidiot> k
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> carter_: just what ubotu said.
[22:00] <amrcidiot> it just says disk
[22:00] <UbuntuPwns> what kinda script is that for the "!ohmy | <name"  type stuff?
[22:00] <carter_> ubotu?
[22:00] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, then ls -lrt and see if there's a sd... or hd...
[22:00] <ppcguy> amrcidiot fdisk? gparted?
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> UbuntuPwns: supybot
[22:00] <ppcguy> any of those should tell you
[22:00] <UbuntuPwns> thanks tonyyarusso
[22:00] <carter_> what does !ohmy | do?
[22:01] <amrcidiot> k i put "sudo chroot disk"
[22:01] <Machiavelli> services tab?
[22:01] <amrcidiot> now it says "root at ubuntu:/#" as where i am
[22:01] <Andy---> Hi I have a few drives mounted to my ubuntu desktop from another linux box. Every once in awhile the samba server on the other linux box is restarted. When this happens that mount point completely locks up and I can't unmount it at all. Is there anyway to force a disconnect?
[22:01] <blizzkid> mmm, amrcidiot not sure that'll do
[22:01] <blizzkid> ppcguy?
[22:02] <ppcguy> MAchiavelli from the quick skim I did of the first weblink that whwere it was talking about
[22:02] <carter_> Andy--- can you refresh the connection?
[22:02] <Machiavelli> i've searched, it just talks about amarok crashing on start up
[22:02] <Andy---> carter_, I can't do anything with it. Even if I do a df it just freezes while trying to list the mounted drives
[22:02] <GoetzC> I have a problem with some encrypted wma. Can I play them? I think they have DRM.  How can I know that?
[22:02] <ppcguy> did you try amarok's fac?
[22:02] <codename> anyone know how I install docks
[22:02] <Machiavelli> faq?
[22:03] <blizzkid> codename, search google for awn
[22:03] <ppcguy> frequently asked questions
[22:03] <Machiavelli> right
[22:03] <Machiavelli> you said fac, was just making sure that is what you were talking about
[22:03] <ppcguy> go to amaroks site and do some looking there, their forum and wiki
[22:03] <Machiavelli> i am checking it now
[22:03] <carter_> that's interesting Andy---
[22:03] <Machiavelli> i checked their forum
[22:03] <task2> 
[22:03] <ppcguy> ah sorry typing fast. lol
[22:03] <ppcguy> hmmm
[22:03] <Machiavelli> :)
[22:03] <ppcguy> hold a sec
[22:03] <KillahB> andy:  i've ran into that problem as well... smbumount /mntpoint just hangs too
[22:03] <Machiavelli> let me look before you look
[22:03] <Andy---> carter_, This has been I problem I've had the last few version of ubuntu
[22:03] <Machiavelli> haha
[22:03] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, you'll have to find out where your hd is mounted
[22:03] <Machiavelli> I will let you know if I can find anything
[22:04] <amrcidiot> ok.
[22:04] <Andy---> KillahB, yeah it locks when I just try to type the mount point
[22:04] <kl4m> !fdisk
[22:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:04] <amrcidiot> i'll get back to you guys later
[22:04] <amrcidiot> thanks
[22:04] <blizzkid> amrcidiot, just run fdisk without options
[22:04] <houman123> hey folks, i need to write a bash script that runs my vpn client for me, but one of the necessary commands prompts the user to give a yes/no answer, is there anyway i can make the script give an automated response to that question?
[22:04] <ppcguy> kinda what I figured blizz, but he already took off
[22:04] <KillahB> i always have to reboot... of course windows does the same thing if i have a mounted drive the gets d/c
[22:04] <KillahB> *that
[22:05] <blizzkid> yeah, a bit impatient I guess ppcguy
[22:05] <Andy---> KillahB, yeah I've been rebooting
[22:05] <los> will am i be able to play games through virtualbox?
[22:05] <task2> Omg I am about to go crazy... I cant install my ATI Radeon x1600   and when I do... The HZ goes out of range... can anyone help me?
[22:05] <ppcguy> indeed, too many of those as of late
[22:05] <los> window games,..?
[22:05] <Andy---> KillahB, when the same things happens in windows I can redo it without rebooting
[22:05] <kl4m> los: Depends on the games... Most 3D stuff won't work properly
[22:05] <ba5e> are the gutsy backports fairly stable or will I end up breaking my system?
[22:05] <kl4m> or not at all
[22:05] <KillahB> hmm
[22:06] <ppcguy> haven't had any probs yet ba5e
[22:06] <UbuntuPwns> I have an 250 gig external USB HDD (with Feisty on it) and a 40 gig INTERNAL HDD with nothing on it yet, I want to put win xp on the 40gig, but how do I configure grub for that?
[22:06] <los> how can i dual boot windows-ubuntu with ubuntu allready in?
[22:06] <ppcguy> ubuntupwns.. really should install windows first
[22:06] <Machiavelli> hey, ppcguy I am going to restart my computer one more time, see if it starts up
[22:06] <ba5e> ppcguy: is it worth getting the latest updates? any good benefits you can think of off the top of your head?
[22:06] <ppcguy> aight I'll be here mach
[22:06] <UbuntuPwns> yeah but windows wont pick up my 250 gig external
[22:07] <ppcguy> not really no unless you are into compiz and all that happy crap
[22:07] <UbuntuPwns> ubuntu picks up my external, no probs
[22:07] <Psi-Jack> UbuntuPwns: Odd. My brother's system picked up his external USB/Firewire 500gB HDD no problems.
[22:07] <los> will am i be able to play games through virtualbox?
[22:07] <ppcguy> then install windows as normal to the 40 gig internal and then do you linux install to the ext
[22:08] <los> sorry... how can i dual boot windows-ubuntu with ubuntu allready in?
[22:08] <Psi-Jack> los: VirtualBox does /not/ do 3D.
[22:08] <los> ok
[22:08] <houman123> hey folks, i need to write a bash script that runs my vpn client for me, but one of the necessary commands prompts the user to give a yes/no answer, is there anyway i can make the script give an automated response to that question?
[22:08] <ppcguy> cedega los
[22:08] <UbuntuPwns> ppcguy, but linux is alread installed on my 250 gig external
[22:08] <los> ok again ;)
[22:08] <ba5e> ppcguy: I ahve compiz fusion, but when I enabled the backports, there were no updates to it that I could see
[22:09] <Biju> Is there a easy way in getting a TV Tuner card to work (Philips Saa 7130 detected by default in Ubuntu . ) Dont need any fancy programs just soemthing to watch a movie once in a while. I tried MythTv , TVTime and ScanTV :(
[22:09] <reverseblade> I am using envy. Is there any guide for installing 100.14.09 specifically ? It is the only stable driver for me
[22:09] <ppcguy> UbuntuPwns.. All I'm going off is my own experiance and alot of trolling the forums.. To get grup to work correctly windows has to be installed first
[22:09] <task2> Omg I am about to go crazy... I cant install my ATI Radeon x1600   and when I do... The HZ goes out of range... can anyone help me?
[22:09] <UbuntuPwns> ppcguy, ok thanks
[22:09] <ppcguy> then I would think it's your own descression call ba5e
[22:09] <Psi-Jack> Biju: I use tvtime and vlc myself, depending. But, soemtimes you have to do some footwork configuring to get TV Tuners working.
[22:09] <blizzkid> ppcguy, UbuntuPwns  not 100% correct
[22:10] <ppcguy> like I said. My own experiance.. I'm sure as hell not right all the time. lol
[22:10] <Biju> Psi-jack, could you give me a link to a page that could help me with that
[22:11] <Psi-Jack> Biju: Google: Ubuntu Philips Saa 7130
[22:11] <samuraiche> hi guys
[22:11] <CesarAndreu> hello
[22:11] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working?
[22:12] <DevDuck> hi all
[22:12] <CesarAndreu> I requiere assitance, I on the live CD to install 7.10, could anyone help me through PM?
[22:12] <CesarAndreu> I have some partition troubles
[22:12] <DevDuck> I'm having trouble getting an rt2500 wireless card to connect in Gutsy
[22:12] <gekoncik> Hi
[22:12] <blizzkid> CesarAndreu, just ask your question
[22:12] <CesarAndreu> ok
[22:12] <samuraiche> people i'm having a problem with kernel compilation when compiling kernel gets too big almost 2 GB does anyone has the same prob?
[22:13] <CyberWolf> hi foks whats up
[22:13] <DevDuck> I;ve compiled the rt2x00 driver from serialmonkey but that one won't recognize the card
[22:14] <DevDuck> I'm not using wpa so I shouldn't need to do anything according to all of the docs
[22:14] <spasticteapot> Does anyone else use Gutsy on an X61/T61? I can no longer adjust my screen brightness using the hotkeys (fn+ home or fn+ end.) The hotkey for turning on the keyboard light (fn+PageUp) works, though, so I know the function keys are okay. I know this has been posted as a bug; does anyone know the fix?
[22:14] <reverseblade> I am using envy. Is there any guide for installing 100.14.09 specifically ? It is the only stable driver for me
[22:14] <gene> can somebody kick me (gene6482) out of the channel, i forgot to sign off from where i was
[22:14] <samuraiche> does anyone know why kernel gets more than 2GB during compilation?
[22:15] <blup> hello
[22:15] <ppcguy> samuraiche; I would look at one of the alternative cd images
[22:15] <riaal> when using awk {print $1,$2} etc. the $1 and $2 is word one and two separated by a space, can I somehow use this with : as separator?
[22:15] <p0d> suggestions anyone: no cdrom in /dev?
[22:15] <ppcguy> maybe even fluxbuntu
[22:15] <kl4m> #awk
[22:16] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working?
[22:16] <DevDuck> samuraiche: did you select every option to be compiled in?
[22:16] <ppcguy> good piont Dev
[22:16] <Agrajag-> g'day, i'm trying to get dual head with fglrx working. i need different resolutions on each monitor. I've set the 2nd resolution with Option "Mode2", but i can't figure out how to set the resolution of the first monitor - how do i set that?
[22:16] <CesarAndreu> ppcguy: could you answer my PM's please?
[22:17] <blup> I can surf only to mozila site on 7.10 anyone care to help?
[22:17] <ppcguy> Agrajag; Just a question Nvidia or ATi
[22:17] <Bonster> any good porgrams?
[22:17] <DevDuck> blup: is it actually mozilla's site or just the default "This is firefox" page?
[22:17] <burwaco> ppcguy: don't start a war...
[22:17] <Agrajag> huh
[22:17] <dissection> Is there an app that I can install that'll search for the cdrom drive?
[22:17] <Agrajag-> ppcguy: err i said fglrx, so clearly ati
[22:17] <Agrajag> what why are there two of me
[22:17] <ppcguy> no wars for me thans
[22:17] <Agrajag-> Agrajag: you stole my nick on freenode :P
[22:18] <Agrajag> oh god this is so confusing I'm going back to lurking
[22:18] <DevDuck> one of me is more then enough for the world...
[22:18] <p0d> hal should sort it out at boot time I think dissection
[22:19] <mejo> blizzkid: thanks for the tip with /etc/usplash.conf. at least that fixed my shutdown process, there i see the splashscreen now.
[22:19] <blizzkid> np mejo
[22:19] <mejo> but unfortunately i still see a black screen at ubuntu boot process.
[22:19] <Agrajag-> anyway, my xorg.conf is here http://www.pastebin.ca/757016 - i just need to figure out how to set the mode of the first monitor
[22:19] <walter_eco> what kernel version is 7.10 supposed to be does anyone know?
[22:19] <walter_eco> 2.6.something?
[22:19] <mejo> after grub i see one or two messages, and then a very long time black screen until gdm is started.
[22:19] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone know how to change the preview player in ktorrent to VLC media player?
[22:19] <curious101> i think it's kernel version 2.6.22
[22:19] <DevDuck> walter_eco: I'm on 2.6.22-14
[22:20] <blizzkid> mejo, add vga=0 to your menu.lst
[22:20] <walter_eco> hmm
[22:20] <mejo> is this a known issue, that the bootsplash has problems on hp compaq notebooks?
[22:20] <DevDuck> this is hp has never had a working bootsplash
[22:20] <blup> devDuck: it's the site, not local stored. I can see the network activity
[22:20] <DevDuck> except on live cds...
[22:20] <walter_eco> is there a way to patch from 5.06 to 7.10
[22:20] <blizzkid> mejo, not only on hp
[22:20] <DevDuck> walter_eco: incrementally
[22:20] <mejo> DevDuck: how can i fix it?
[22:21] <mejo> ah, blizzkid: thanks i'll give it a try.
[22:21] <DevDuck> mejo: I haven't yet
[22:21] <ASTX813> This should be simple, but I just installed Lightning 0.7 and now the preview calendar is showing up in an annoying third column instead of at the bottom of the mail folders column, and I can't find any way to send it back.
[22:21] <walter_eco> is it under upgrade?
[22:21] <DevDuck> mejo: having bigger problems
[22:21] <blizzkid> mejo, add it at the end of the line that starts with kernel
[22:21] <DevDuck> blub: dns issue?
[22:21] <gekoncik> Hi haw r u?
[22:21] <walter_eco> i cant seem to find incremental updates under upgrade or symbiotic or whatever the rpm replacement is called
[22:21] <DevDuck> walter_eco: to be honest I wouldn't even try
[22:21] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working?
[22:21] <walter_eco> just burn 7.10
[22:22] <P_Kable> Can somebody help me to get direct rendering on gutsy with my ati 9200se please
[22:22] <DevDuck> synaptic
[22:22] <pike_> walter_eco: you will have to upgrade incrementally so upgrade to each version till you are at 7.10
[22:22] <walter_eco> or 6.10
[22:22] <walter_eco> yeah synaptic
[22:22] <walter_eco> does 7.10 even work has anyone had a chance to try
[22:22] <DevDuck> anyone have any ideas why this wireless nic doesn't work?
[22:22] <pike_> walter_eco: usually its easier to just backup /home and any other data then reinstall or resize the partition and install 7.10 to the freespace
[22:22] <burwaco> ok, poll, after a fresh install... gnash sfwplayer or adobe flash player ?
[22:23] <DevDuck> I've got 7.10 working on three machines
[22:23] <DevDuck> almost working on this one
[22:23] <walter_eco> cool
[22:23] <pike_> walter_eco: you will see a huge improvement with 7.10 in desktop stuff
[22:23] <mejo> blizzkid: thanks but better at '# defopts=' and then update-grub, correct?
[22:23] <walter_eco> sweet
[22:23] <sedeki> best ftp client for kde?
[22:23] <blizzkid> mejo, yes
[22:23] <DevDuck> I make /home/ it's own partition on most setups so installs can just right over it
[22:23] <walter_eco> i can just install off cd since luckily I dont have anything on my linux box really
[22:23] <walter_eco> nothing Id miss
[22:23] <stian> If I boot whit acpi=off, what is realy happening ?
[22:23] <burwaco> sedeki: fireftp firefow mlugin...
[22:24] <DevDuck> then go for it
[22:24] <burwaco> firefox plugin...
[22:24] <mejo> where do i set the options that i see in the 'right mouse'-menu in nautilus?
[22:24] <DevDuck> I prefer fireftp as well
[22:24] <DevDuck> I'm going to have to regress this pos to feisty
[22:24] <burwaco> gnash or adobe ?
[22:24] <mejo> i don't like the trash at all, i'dd like to have 'delete file' directly (without moving it to trash first) in the menu.
[22:25] <task2> OMFG this linux is making me mad...
[22:25] <burwaco> mejo: just shift + delete...
[22:25] <DevDuck> mejo: iirc you can just hit delete when the file is selected to do that
[22:25] <DevDuck> or shift+delete
[22:25] <walter_eco> isnt adminsp a firewall too?
[22:25] <task2> I cant install My ATI Radeon x1600 and I cant even install steam ... whats goin on!!?!?
[22:25] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working? I have an expensive chunk of notebook that's a paperweight because of this
[22:25] <astro76> mejo, in the file manager, edit > preferences, Behavior tab, check "Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash" ;)
[22:25] <walter_eco> its either a firewall, fax prg, or pbx software
[22:27] <DevDuck> bye, I'm jsut going to downgrade this one
[22:27] <mejo> astro76: thanks, that's what i was searching for ;-)
[22:28] <ActySofts> can anyone tell me how I can reinstall grub?
[22:28] <ASTX813> OK, I tried removing & reinstalling Thunderbird and now I can't even create a normal local calendar.  I think this might have something to do with the fact that Synaptic initially installed Lightning 0.5 system-wide and I removed that so I could install 0.7.
[22:29] <anssi_> How do I arrange my windows cascaded/tiled?
[22:29] <buttercups> ActySofts, you have a live cd laying around?
[22:29] <ActySofts> yep
[22:29] <burwaco> gnash or adobe ?
[22:29] <buttercups> ActySofts, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=reinstall+grub
[22:30] <burwaco> gnash or adobe for flash support in firefox... what's best ?
[22:30] <ActySofts> adobe's plug-in
[22:30] <ActySofts> gnash is alpha, but it works pretty well
[22:30] <ActySofts> though don't try to use it for youtube or so ;)
[22:31] <burwaco> ActySofts: If I take gnash will it be updated automatically when it comes out of alpha ?
[22:31] <mjbunink> Hi all, I hope someone can help me... I have a fresh Gutsy install, and apt-got Thunderbird. But after starting, the app just dies on me, without reason. Does anyone know what I should do?
[22:31] <lochii> so anybody here have any clues about segfaults in sis_init_one
[22:31] <lochii> ?
[22:31] <lampi> hi gataborralheira
[22:32] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working? I have an expensive chunk of notebook that's a paperweight because of this
[22:32] <gekoncik> synaptic is very cool :) but where can i download more skin for gnome?
[22:32] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, did you try running from a terminal and see if it spits out any error messages?
[22:32] <mjbunink> gekoncik: art.gnome.org
[22:32] <blup> anyone knows how to solve internet problem on 7.10?
[22:32] <ActySofts> buttercups: thanks I printed it
[22:33] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: will do that right now
[22:33] <gekoncik> ok thx :)
[22:33] <mejo> blizzkid: unfortunately the vga=0 didn't change anything at boot process.
[22:33] <gwi> anyone knows what this error means: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x400000 action 0x2
[22:33] <esjay> question: I have a NAS running in my house..have just installed Ubuntu 7.10 for the first time and have no clue how to connect to it (i've failed on attempting things i've read on forums so far)...Any suggestions
[22:34] <task2> omg
[22:34] <comicinker> hi! how do I install kde themes in ubuntu?
[22:34] <Hegemon> My sound driver seems to have quit
[22:34] <tuxedo> Nabend, wie kann ich unter 7.10 Gutsy denn nun Beryl themes benutzen ?
[22:34] <ratman> esjay: do you know on which ip address is the nas?
[22:34] <Hegemon> Can anyone help me fix it?
[22:34] <esjay> yes ratman
[22:34] <PirateHead> Sound doesn't work since I upgraded from Feisty. Can anybody help me resolve that?
[22:34] <erUSUL> esjay: it surely has some kind of web configuration interface...
[22:34] <rem> ..
[22:34] <esjay> as well as the names of the shares
[22:34] <ratman> are you on the same network?
[22:35] <erUSUL> esjay: look in the manual for default ip:port
[22:35] <emmajane> PirateHead: What's your sound card? Do you know?
[22:35] <esjay> yeah i'm on the same network
[22:35] <Hegemon> my sound quit on me about 30 min ago
[22:35] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: no errors.., ends with  /usr/lib/thuderbird/components/libcommandlines.so (loading of it)
[22:35] <Sylvarant> @<comicinker> thats not possible unless you install the kubuntu desktop
[22:35] <tuxedo> oops, wrong language. Could someone explain how to get Beryl Themes working in 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon ?
[22:35] <ratman> could you ping to the nas?
[22:35] <esjay> all off the same router...all dhcp clients etc
[22:35] <anssi_> I downloaded gsynaptics for my Dell laptop touchpad. But launching it from Preferences asks me to edit xorg.conf. I think editing it by hand it not a good idea, i sthat right? Will it be compatible with system tools editing xorg.conf?
[22:35] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: still, it ends without explanation
[22:35] <esjay> i can ping the nas
[22:36] <mejo> not only my bootscreen is black, but i'm not able to change to a virtual console after gdm started at all. my complete console is broken.
[22:36] <PirateHead> emmajane: from lspci: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[22:36] <tuxedo> anssi, I do it all the time with normal texteditor
[22:36] <ratman> how do the nas connect? using samba?
[22:36] <mejo> blizzkid: is that a known issue to you?
[22:36] <comicinker> Sylvarant: so I can only use the given themes (silk, plastik)?
[22:36] <jannen> Hi, Im trying to setup my Tv card with help from a guide first step is " cd /usr/src/linux hm but there is no such dir...anyone here added saa713x module or can give advice?
[22:36] <esjay> i've never used linux before so i have no clue how to connect to a NAS drive
[22:36] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, this is a completely fresh install?
[22:36] <esjay> i did install samba successfully but have no clue how it works
[22:36] <ratman> ok, how you work with it on windows?
[22:36] <blizzkid> mejo, no, I didn't have that issue
[22:36] <PirateHead> esjay: I've been using Linux for years and I've never connected to a NAS drive. If I wanted to find out how, I would start by googling it.
[22:37] <esjay> i browse my network and ti's there
[22:37] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, meaning that there is no .thunderbird settings directory or something similar hanging around?
[22:37] <esjay> i did piratehead..and tried 3 tutorials
[22:37] <Sylvarant> @<comicinker> : no you can download gtk2 themes from gnome-look.org wich you can instaal
[22:37] <emmajane> piratehead: have you checked to see if it's just muted in alsamixer?
[22:37] <esjay> didn't have luck or i wouldn't be here
[22:37] <temp1234> would that load cycle issue affect usb drives as well since you can't hdparm them?
[22:37] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: with updates untill yesterday, yes. At least system wise, installed a couple of other apps, which have no connection to moz or otherwise
[22:37] <erUSUL> esjay: and Places>Network>Windows Network
[22:37] <esjay> the NAS shares appear on my windows boxes with no issue in network neighborhood
[22:37] <ratman> i think you need samba. samba will let you connect to a windows shared folder
[22:37] <esjay> erusul no luck there...it's just a blank
[22:37] <comicinker> Sylvarant: I can install gtk2 themes with the kcontrol tool?
[22:38] <PirateHead> emmajane: why would it be muted by default? And if it is muted, how do I tell?
[22:38] <erUSUL> !samba | esjay
[22:38] <ubotu> esjay: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[22:38] <esjay> i'm not using a domain either
[22:38] <PirateHead> emmajane: Nothing says "muted" when I run alsamixer.
[22:38] <ratman> unfortunately i do not use that kind of shares and i can't help you on that
[22:38] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, ok, well i think you are stuck doind a backtrace. use gdb to get a bt
[22:38] <ATITROUBLE> My Ati Radeon x1600 will not install or work correctly!!!! Anyone?!?
[22:38] <emmajane> piratehead: in a terminal, type: alsamixer
[22:38] <esjay> going to that link ubotu posted and will give it a try
[22:38] <emmajane> piratehead: do you have "red" levels for all of thecolumns?
[22:38] <anssi_> tuxedo, if you like change screen resolution with Preferences, will it keep your manual edits in xorg.conf? I remember I never understood the Debian way to control the X configuration file with dpkg-reconfigure...
[22:38] <PirateHead> emmajane: done. I know to do that.
[22:38] <ratman> but it should be pretty straight forward, ubuntu is prepared to do it easily, but i just haven't used
[22:38] <Skeesh> anyone know how I can find out my local (lan) IP?
[22:39] <ratman> skessh: ifconfig
[22:39] <PirateHead> emmajane: the "master" column says 00, and has no column at all
[22:39] <Sylvarant> @comcinker : are you running kubuntu or ubuntu ? normally in ubuntu you'de use theme manager or appearence in gusty gibbon
[22:39] <esjay> i'm just not sure my NAS is considered a windows share...i'll get out the manual though
[22:39] <PirateHead> emmajane: It's not that there's a column that just has no bars in it; there is no column, period.
[22:39] <FireHazard17> i am recompiling my kernel should i enable smp i have a dual core processor but i can not figure out if smp only refers to 2 separate cpu or if dual core processors would benefit from this too
[22:39] <emmajane> piratehead: can you arrow up to incrase the volume for master?
[22:39] <emmajane> piratehead: and what is the "chip" listed at the top?
[22:39] <PirateHead> emmajane: the next one over, PCM, has red bars
[22:39] <ratman> it should be if windows is capable of working with it just out of the box.
[22:40] <esjay> k thanks...brb trying this
[22:40] <ATITROUBLE> Man... screw linux... I cant get anything to work on it I am gonna go back to win xp :( :(
[22:40] <PirateHead> emmajane: up arrow has no effect. the "chip" is Realtek ALC861
[22:40] <ratman> i'm sure there's people around here that know how to conect to a nas using samba
[22:40] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: k, can you point me to howto's?
[22:40] <codename> how can i get my trashcan on the desktop
[22:40] <codename> where is it located?
[22:40] <PirateHead> codename: ~/.trash
[22:40] <FireHazard17> anyone?
[22:40] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, just man gdb or search google, gdb backtrace
[22:41] <Bahal> hello
[22:41] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, are you sure, there's no .mozilla dir? if there is, try deleting that first and start tbird
[22:41] <spasticteapot> sticteapot> Does anyone else use Gutsy on an X61/T61? I can no longer adjust my screen brightness using the hotkeys (fn+ home or fn+ end.) The hotkey for turning on the keyboard light (fn+PageUp) works, though, so I know the function keys are okay. I know this has been posted as a bug; does anyone know the fix?
[22:41] <Sylvarant> @<Bahal> hello to you
[22:41] <episodic> hey guys can someone please help go here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/episodic/1810803796/     this is a screen shot. I had a creative zen stone mp3 player that worked just fine under gutsy. I was trying to change the mount so that it mounted the MUSIC subfolder instead of the root of the folder so, I right clicked on the MP3 player's icon - then I went to settings and mount point and added the 'music' folder to the mount point hoping
[22:41] <episodic> it would mount to that folder - my thinking was wrong and now it complains and won't mount at all - can someone tell me where to edit out what I typed in? I tried /etc/fstab it is not there
[22:41] <PirateHead> codename: at least, I thought so. I seem to be wrong.
[22:41] <emmajane> piratehead: are you using the 2.6.22 kernel? $ uname -a
[22:41] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, backup the dir first of course :)
[22:41] <codename> ya i cant get it to my desktop
[22:41] <codename> im really lost
[22:41] <codename> lol
[22:41] <codename> :(
[22:41] <comicinker> Sylvarant: I'm running ubuntu. I would like to install a theme for kde apps, because I'm using one or two kde apps
[22:41] <PirateHead> emmajane: yes, 2.6.22
[22:41] <codename> i just put a dock up
[22:42] <codename> and i need the trashcan there
[22:42] <FireHazard17> Seveas: hello
[22:42] <Bahal> Anyone know a good compatible copy of Winecvs out the for ubuntu
[22:42] <kritzstapf> some icons in my gnome-panel are kind of blured - http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6946/screenshot1mx0.png
[22:42] <PirateHead> codename: I figured out at least one way to do it
[22:42] <codename> how
[22:43] <Seveas> FireHazard17, hi
[22:43] <mjbunink> hoarycripple: there is a .mozilla and even .mozilla-thunderbird
[22:43] <PirateHead> codename: But it's not very good, because you can't drag things to it.
[22:43] <Random832> anyone know how to use a motorola phone as a modem?
[22:43] <episodic> can anyone tell me where to look to edit out what I did from that screen shot above?
[22:43] <codename> damn it
[22:43] <emmajane> piratehead: it's possibly a known bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/138322
[22:43] <Random832> w/ gprs
[22:43] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, delete those after backing up to some other filename
[22:43] <astro76> Bahal, wincvs?
I'm afraid that isn't going to work you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to have the kubuntu desktop and there you can config kde appearence but not in gnome
[22:43] <PirateHead> codename: You can create a launcher on the desktop that runs this command: nautilus "trash:"
[22:43] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, and then try to start it
[22:43] <blup> can only sure one site on 7.10.
[22:43] <blup> surf
[22:43] <emmajane> piratehead: there's a module solution listed though about half way down that you might want to try
[22:43] <jannen> my shared nas disks shows up without samba places-->network
[22:44] <Bahal> WineCVS
[22:44] <comicinker> Sylvarant: thanks for the tips
[22:44] <hoarycripple> mjbunink, something might be corrupt in there
[22:44] <PirateHead> emmajane: it seems to break every time there's a kernel upgrade. :-(
[22:44] <Skeesh> can anyone help me figure out why my USB install isn't working? I have an expensive chunk of notebook that's a paperweight because of this
[22:44] <Psi-Jack> Is there a way to make a 2-row Gnome Panel instead of having 2 seperate panels stacked atop each other?
[22:44] <emmajane> piratehead: one of these days they'll get it right. ;)
[22:44] <PirateHead> emmajane: It worked in Dapper and then broke in Edgy, then they fixed it in Edgy but it broke in Feisty, then they fixed it but now it's broken in Gutsy.
[22:45] <astro76> Bahal, you might try #winehq
[22:45] <Bahal> thnx
[22:45] <PirateHead> emmajane: The kernel team should just stop fuxing with the sound drivers. :-)
[22:45] <emmajane> piratehead: time to donate a duplicate of your laptop to the kernel developers. ;)
[22:45] <Sylvarant> @<Psi-Jack> you can increase the hight in panel preferences
[22:45] <episodic> hey guys can someone please help go here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/episodic/1810803796/     this is a screen shot. I had a creative zen stone mp3 player that worked just fine under gutsy. I was trying to change the mount so that it mounted the MUSIC subfolder instead of the root of the folder so, I right clicked on the MP3 player's icon - then I went to settings and mount point and added the 'music' folder to the mount point hoping
[22:45] <episodic> it would mount to that folder - my thinking was wrong and now it complains and won't mount at all - can someone tell me where to edit out what I typed in? I tried /etc/fstab it is not there
[22:46] <PirateHead> emmajane: I'm running on the cheapest piece of crap I could buy at the time, so it would actually not be too difficult! The problem is that the kernel developers, who have dual-core ThinkPads with a gig of RAM, would cringe to boot into it.
[22:46] <emmajane> hhehehe
[22:46] <astro76> episodic, hmm if it's still the same, in feisty you had to go in gconf and manually delete what you set
[22:46] <Psi-Jack> Sylvarant: Yes, Yes, you can, but then it places things in the center of it, still, vertically. And doesn't allow you to put things underneath another.
[22:46] <episodic> gconf
[22:46] <episodic> I'm not sure what that is
[22:47] <dissection> I can't get my cd/dvd drive to work. In fstab, it points to a non existent device. How do I find the correct one?
[22:47] <PirateHead> emmajane: is it possible to download the old kernel and use it?
[22:47] <astro76> episodic, run gconf-editor
[22:47] <episodic> ok
[22:47] <PirateHead> emmajane: or do I have to do a fresh Feisty install?
[22:47] <ASTX813> Is anyone here using Thunderbird with Lightning?
[22:47] <astro76> episodic, then browse around, there should be something under storage devices with the mount point you set
[22:47] <Psi-Jack> ASTX813: I tried it. It sucked.
[22:48] <emmajane> piratehead: I wouldn't try it with ubuntu...
[22:48] <Gmac> Quick question, ive just quited from the game Lgenerals and my desktop is slightly lower resolution and I can scroll around it?
[22:48] <PirateHead> emmajane: I should just switch to Slackware then, or what?
[22:48] <ASTX813> Psi-Jack do you know a better calendar app that syncs with google calendar?  I'm trying to have a global calendar from home, work, and eventually cell.
[22:48] <bruenig> Gmac, not a question
[22:48] <emmajane> piratehead: HA!
[22:48] <emmajane> piratehead: did you try the model fix that was suggested on the page I gave you?
[22:49] <Gmac>  :) how can I reset it to its original res?
[22:49] <Sylvarant> @<Psi-Jack>: I no you can pretty easily do it in kde but i have no idea of how to do it gnome
[22:49] <Pelo> Gmac, check in sysgtem > prefs >`screen res , see if you can set it back
[22:49] <Gmac> its already set to the correct res, but has not taken effect
[22:50] <Gmac> im sure if I rebooted it would be fine, but is their something to froce it?
[22:50] <Pelo> Gmac,  the only other thing I can suggest it to restart X  , crtl alt backspace
[22:50] <ASTX813> Pelo - looks like he tried that
[22:51] <ratman> yeah, he tried
[22:51]  * Pelo should have mentionned it would kill all his aps 
[22:51] <Gmac> that worked
[22:51] <episodic> ok guys, I went to gconf
[22:51] <Gmac> thanks
[22:51] <episodic> I found it
[22:51] <[Neurotic]> anyone got any ideas on when the bug where open office will crash under certain themes will be fixed? Or am I stuck just removing openoffice-gtk ?
[22:51] <Gmac> yep, :) closed everything but could have been worst!
[22:51] <dissection> I can't get my cd/dvd drive to work. In fstab, it points to a non existent device. How do I find the correct one?
[22:51] <episodic> I removed what I added - but it still does not work - when I plug in the stone - the same error
[22:51] <episodic> sheesh, I wish I had just left it alone crud
[22:52] <havoque> is there some boot parameter that forces the gutsy install process to use the old ide drivers rather than the new libata subsystem which treats hda as sda and thus limiting the number of allowed partitions to 15, i have 20 partitions as i am a multidistro user/tester and can't install gutsy at the moment, my hdd is pata, not scsi
[22:52] <episodic> any ideas for me now?
[22:52] <PirateHead> Gotta go - thanks emmajane.
[22:52] <anssi__> Where I set battery low alarms? My Dell laptop just abruptly switched off with no warning from Gutsy!
[22:52] <emmajane> piratehead: sorry I couldn't be of more use.
[22:52] <Pelo> dissection,  put cd or dvd in the drive , then in my computer,  right click and check the devices in the properties
[22:52] <emmajane> piratehead: g'luck with it.
[22:52] <episodic> If I delete the key - will it recreate the key when I reboot?
[22:52] <hagabaka> has anyone tried fglrx 8.4.2 on ubuntu gutsy?
[22:52] <Pelo> episodic, yes
[22:52] <wirechief_> hagabaka: yes
[22:53] <NetRipper> Hi, for some reason the failsafe of my X is enabled, where is the flag so I can disable it? The "failsafe" configuration isn't working (vesa driver doesn't work)
[22:53] <hagabaka> did it work for you?
[22:53] <dissection> Pelo, the drive does not work
[22:53] <wirechief_> hagabaka: yes
[22:53] <Pelo> dissection, try checking in your bios
[22:53] <wirechief_> hagabaka: yes works fine
[22:53] <hagabaka> i get a segmentation error with fgl_glxgears...
[22:53] <wirechief_> hagabaka: what card ?
[22:53] <Pelo> later folks
[22:54] <dissection> I mean it works but doesn't work in Ubuntu, but the live CD works
[22:54] <P_Kable> Can somebody help me to get direct rendering on gutsy with my ati 9200se please
[22:54] <hagabaka> radion 8900
[22:54] <wirechief_> hagabaka: hmm dont know i have a ati1300
[22:54] <drifterz> Can Seahorse (GnuPGP) be used as a password manager like KeePassX? What is the difference between KeePassX and GnuPGP?
[22:54] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: are you running XGL?
[22:54] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, i don;t know
[22:55] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: type fglrxinfo in terminal
[22:55] <P_Kable> The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.
[22:55] <wirechief_> hagabaka: hmm dont know i have a ati1300 i get gears with a fast rotating box so it works ok
[22:56] <spasticteapot> sticteapot> Does anyone else use Gutsy on an X61/T61? I can no longer adjust my screen brightness using the hotkeys (fn+ home or fn+ end.) The hotkey for turning on the keyboard light (fn+PageUp) works, though, so I know the function keys are okay. I know this has been posted as a bug; does anyone know the fix?
[22:56] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: System>Administation>Restrictecd Drivers Manager
[22:56] <drifterz> P_Kable: then install it
[22:56] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: enable the one for ATI
[22:56] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[22:56] <walter_eco> i have a matrox g450 and it doesnt seem to like directdraw
[22:56] <hagabaka> oh, it's 9800
[22:57] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: glxinfo | grep direct
[22:57] <hagabaka> which is supported and the installed control panel recognizes it too
[22:57] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, I have my cube running great but no direct rendering ...
[22:57] <havoque> i have direct rendering in gutsy and feisty by default, i have radeon 9700 pro
[22:57] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: oh, you have xgl running then, you won't get direct rendering working.
[22:57] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)
[22:57] <P_Kable> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL
[22:57] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: check in your service monitor for a process called XGL
[22:57] <Psi-Jack> ASTX813: I use a Firefox plugin that works with it. Google's GData access API is very nice, that you, with programming skills, could even make a better tool for the gnome-panel's itself, directly, if you truely tried. ;)
[22:57] <P_Kable> ps -e | grep xgl ?
[22:58]  * N3bunel away
[22:58] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, nothing
[22:58] <havoque> anyone can say something about my problem
[22:58] <episodic> hey guys -  to all that helped with the gconf - thanks alot! it is my kid's birthday, and I was trying to get his new linux computer, music collection, and mp3 player I got him in order. ..
[22:58] <episodic> thanks!
[22:58] <drifterz> So does anyone use Seahorse?
[22:58] <walter_eco> why does it say s
[22:58] <walter_eco> -ChanServ- You do not have channel operator access to [#ubuntu-ak]
[22:58] <episodic> it worked
[22:59] <astro76> drifterz, seahorse is great
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> hagabaka: I have 8.42.3 installed, it's OK, a little buggy though.
[22:59] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, it is the same with both drivers ati and radeon ...
[22:59] <episodic> now, I have one more - does anyone in here use exaile?
[22:59] <hagabaka> did you use the buildpackage thing in the installer?
[22:59] <drifterz> astro76: can I save username and passwords in it? or is it only used for e-mail encryption mostly?
[22:59] <P_Kable> cube running great but no directrednering ... it wastes my ram ...
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> hagabaka: I compiled it
[23:00] <h4rd-1> FluxD : hi
[23:00] <episodic> Exaile sees my mp3 player - but my mp3 plaer has a folder called "MUSIC" that the music has to be put into - unfortuantly I can't seem to do anything but get it to transfer to the root directory of the device and not into the music directory
[23:00] <joepain> hey guys, ive got ubuntu 7.10 (amd64) installed and i was wondering can i install i386 packages some how? for example, crossover
[23:00] <astro76> drifterz, no it's not a password safe, it's for gpg, ssh, and also can manage the gnome keyring entries
[23:00] <havoque> P_Kable you should be alright with the open source ati driver, no need for xgl or fglrx for your card
[23:00] <aolaus> does anyone know how to unload drivers?
[23:00] <Blokk> what kernel image am I suppose to run on a c2d?
[23:00] <drifterz> astro76: thank you
[23:00] <aolaus> specifically, usb and pcmcia
[23:00] <dissection> Can anyone help me get my cd/dvd drive to work in Ubuntu?
[23:01] <Pici> Blokk: generic
[23:01] <Jupp2> dissection, what's the problem?
[23:01] <FluxD> h4rd-1: whatsup :)
[23:01] <P_Kable> havoque, ok then how do you set it up for direct rendering please ... I use radeon driver now and no direct rendering but compiz is ok
[23:01] <havoque> it's not working because of the problem i also have: is there some boot parameter that forces the gutsy install process to use the old ide drivers rather than the new libata subsystem which treats hda as sda and thus limiting the number of allowed partitions to 15, i have 20 partitions as i am a multidistro user/tester and can't install gutsy at the moment, my hdd is pata, not scsi
[23:01] <h4rd-1> FluxD : nothing just need little help again :S
[23:01] <cezpaq>  /join #hackphreak
[23:01] <astro76> drifterz, if you need a password safe you can through on a usb key and run on windows or linux, try keepassx (keepass in windows)
[23:01] <cezpaq> >.<
[23:01] <dissection> Jupp2: It doesn't mount, says the device does not exist
[23:01] <NetRipper> how do i prevent X from starting in failsafe? somehow it keeps loading the failsafe configuration
[23:01] <FluxD> h4rd-1: ask away :)
[23:02] <P_Kable> havoque, I do not have any fglrx nor XGL installed ...
[23:02] <bkero> I seem to be having a problem with apache and the libapache2-mod-xmlrpc2.  I'm getting "undefined  symbol: xmlrpc_registry_new" errors whenever I try to start it.  Any ideas?  This is on gutsy amd64  server.
[23:02] <h4rd-1> FluxD : can i install ubuntu from flash memory ?
[23:02] <temp1234> does anyone know if that hard drive issue with the load cycle count will affect usb drives as well?
[23:02] <Blokk> Pici: Is there a way to access the functions opted for the c2d or more important the power saving functions?
[23:02] <FluxD> h4rd-1: usb stick?
[23:02] <h4rd-1> FluxD : tep
[23:02] <tphyahoo-ubuntu> apt seems to be in a conflicted state: http://rafb.net/p/v8gDuS33.html
[23:02] <h4rd-1> FluxD : yep
[23:02] <episodic> Any exaile experts around?
[23:02] <Drew777> Hi, just installed gutsy, fresh install, I left  /home unformatted. When I try to install software I get the message that "packages can not be authenticated"  should I be worried?
[23:02] <tphyahoo-ubuntu> can anyone suggest to me what to do?
[23:02] <havoque> if you're running compiz than you should have direct rendering
[23:02] <FluxD> h4rd-1: I am not sure really, because not all bios allowes booting USB stuff
[23:02] <Pici> Blokk: The generic kernel will load whater your cpu supports on demand, like powernowd and similar.
[23:02] <h4rd-1> FluxD : btw i fix the internet but i get problem with the installation of ubuntu
[23:02] <MilitantPotato> hagabaka: I used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=593348
[23:03] <havoque> glxinfo | grep direct ?
[23:03] <h4rd-1> FluxD : okay
[23:03] <Jupp2> dissection, does your bios recognizes the dvd?
[23:03] <tphyahoo-ubuntu> seems I tried installing libapache2-mod-python2.4 and also libache (not v2 apache) and it somehow got into a bad state
[23:03] <MilitantPotato> hagabaka: it has worked with my PC and another guy I helped using a 9800
[23:03] <Drew777> Hi, just installed gutsy, fresh install, I left  /home unformatted. When I try to install software I get the message that "packages can not be authenticated"  should I be worried?
[23:03] <MilitantPotato> havoque: Direct rendering is disabled with compiz and ATI
[23:03] <dissection> Jupp2: Yes, the drive is working. Works in Windows, and the Ubuntu Live CD works
[23:04] <Blokk> Pici: Hmm, but I get no access to the functions, waht could be wrong?
[23:04] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: update your keys?
[23:04] <P_Kable> so nobody really knows how to do this ?
[23:04] <havoque> it's disabled with fglrx, not with ati open source driver
[23:04] <MilitantPotato> havoque: true.
[23:04] <Drew777> MilitantPotato, ok, how do I do that?
[23:04] <h4rd-1> FluxD : i get error input/output when it's installing ubuntu
[23:04] <P_Kable> it worked fine on edgy and feisty
[23:04] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: I've no idea man
[23:04] <FluxD> h4rd-1: from cd?
[23:04] <h4rd-1> FluxD : yes
[23:04] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: you're running compiz, turn off desktop effects, restart Xserver, and check for direct rendering
[23:05] <havoque> P_Kable you have a problem that is closely related to mine: is there some boot parameter that forces the gutsy install process to use the old ide drivers rather than the new libata subsystem which treats hda as sda and thus limiting the number of allowed partitions to 15, i have 20 partitions as i am a multidistro user/tester and can't install gutsy at the moment, my hdd is pata, not scsi
[23:05] <tphyahoo-ubuntu>  http://rafb.net/p/v8gDuS33.html ... apt help?
[23:05] <havoque> libata is the culprit
[23:05] <FluxD> h4rd-1: do cd crc check on boot could be bad cd or bad drive
[23:05] <Skeesh> can anyone here help me with getting netboot set up? the wiki article is a bit over my head
[23:05] <Pici> Blokk: How are you trying to access them?
[23:05] <Drew777> MilitantPotato, :) what should the default key be?
[23:05] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: uhm...
[23:05] <Skeesh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot is the one I am using
[23:05] <h4rd-1> FluxD : okay
[23:05] <h4rd-1> FluxD : if is bad drive ?
[23:05] <FluxD> h4rd-1: u could try net install
[23:06] <h4rd-1> FluxD : lol 10x again man :)
[23:06] <Blokk> Pici: through the command acpi
[23:06] <FluxD> h4rd-1: anytime :)
[23:06] <P_Kable> havoque, I do not see a relation between HD issues and graphics sorry ...
[23:06] <h4rd-1> FluxD : bye :)
[23:06] <Jupp2> dissection, what does your fstab say about your cdrom?
[23:06] <drifterz> Drew777: did you try apt-get update from command line?
[23:06] <havoque> my mistake sorry
[23:06] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: did you add any repositories other then the default?
[23:06] <MilitantPotato> defaults*
[23:06] <Blokk> Pici: acpi -V -> No support for device type: thermal
[23:06] <joepain> hey guys, ive got ubuntu 7.10 (amd64) installed and i was wondering can i install i386 packages some how? for example, crossover
[23:07] <FluxD> h4rd-1: later
[23:07] <Gatestone> Why did my Dell laptop Gutsy just switch off with no warning when battery ran out? I have Gutsy default settings for Power...
[23:07] <Drew777> drifterz, no I'll try that now
[23:07] <dcosson> i'm looking for a small app that can resize/re-encode video to make the filesize smaller... anyone have any good recommendations?
[23:07] <Drew777> MilitantPotato, no just standard install
[23:07] <Bonster> k
[23:07] <Biju> Is it possible to install WIndows once I have already done Ubuntu without losing it so I can get my TV Tuner card working? Virtual Machine is fine if thats possible?
[23:07] <hagabaka> hmm, i used the installer and it works this time
[23:07] <hagabaka> i guess there's a problem with --buildpackage option of the installer
[23:07] <close2__> hello,  could someone with gutsy please try to create a password-protected 7z file: 7zr a -pTEST /tmp/dummy.7z someDATA
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> Gatestone: I believe that is the defualt settings
[23:08] <dissection> Jupp2: /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec     0       0
[23:08] <Pici> Blokk: hmm.. Are you sure that your computer doesnt require any other modules, eg: for your motherboard, for this to work?
[23:08] <Lunarbunny> quick question - anybody know how to keep X/Gnome from restarting after ctrl+alt+bksp?
[23:08] <drifterz> fudging linux makes me mad sometimes, but I still love it
[23:08] <MilitantPotato> Drew
[23:08] <Gatestone> Odd-rationale: default is "shutdown", not uncontrolled hardware power off.
[23:09] <MilitantPotato> sudo go to Admin>sources
[23:09] <riotkittie> Biju: you can install windows, you'll just need a live disc on hand to recover GRUB as win will overwrite it. i'm not sure your card would work in a vm
[23:09] <Blokk> Pici: No, I don't know
[23:09] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: click the Authentication tab, remove everything
[23:09] <Lunarbunny> anybody?
[23:09] <close2__> I would need somebody to verify, that there's really a bug in the 7z version of ubuntu, before filing a report
[23:09] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: close the sessions options, then in terminal run sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-keyring
[23:09] <Gatestone> And shouldn't there be some kind of message/warning about critical battery? How do I configure that? Not in Pref/Power!
[23:09] <Jupp2> dissection: try fdisk -l /dev/hda to see what it says
[23:09] <MadDucky> Gatestone, did it overheat?  Dells are notorious for that
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> Gatestone: Oh, I see what you mean.
[23:09] <MilitantPotato> Gatestone: enable the icon?
[23:10] <Milkinator> is there a channel for audio?
[23:10] <Jupp2> dissection: make sure a cd is in the drive
[23:10] <MilitantPotato> Milkinator: #alsa
[23:10] <Milkinator> thanks MilitantPotato
[23:10] <riotkittie> Lunarbunny: given that that's the way to restart  X, no. :P you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop tho
[23:10] <Gatestone> I never had any overheating problems before, with Windows on the same machine.
[23:10] <Biju> Is there a Linux recommended TV Tuner model  type I could buy
[23:10] <Skeesh> anyone know how I can find out my local (lan) IP? is there a command maybe?
[23:10] <biggahed> where do i set the systems chatset?
[23:10] <Drew777> MilitantPotato, drifterz, ok I think that worked :)
[23:10] <Lunarbunny> tried that, it goes to bulletproof x
[23:10] <Drew777> thanks
[23:10] <kst-> is there a way to get rid of these small dotted parts at each side of the gnome panel if you're using a gnome panel that is not extended?
[23:10] <Doshu> Hi I have a problem setting correct resolution on my laptop. It has a nvidia GPU
[23:10] <Pici> !locale | biggahed
[23:10] <ubotu> biggahed: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[23:10] <Lunarbunny> or what I think is bulletproof x
[23:10] <Gatestone> MilitantPotato: the battery icon is there, but I should constantly checking it??
[23:10] <MilitantPotato> Drew777: no prob.
[23:11] <ToddEDM> how do i add compiz manager?
[23:11] <riotkittie> Biju: you may try asking in the forums, under the hardware section ... to see what people are having luck with , also the hw compatibility list
[23:11] <Milkinator> i'm using xchat how do you bring up the users in the room?
[23:11] <riotkittie> !ccsm | ToddEDM
[23:11] <ubotu> ToddEDM: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[23:11] <MilitantPotato> Gatestone: nah, that'd be a PITA.
[23:11] <Biju> Thanks
[23:11] <bkero> I seem to be having a problem with apache and the libapache2-mod-xmlrpc2.  I'm getting "undefined  symbol: xmlrpc_registry_new" errors whenever I try to start it.  Any ideas?  This is on gutsy amd64 server.
[23:11] <havoque> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:11] <Jupp2> dissection, also try "mount | grep /dev/hda" maybe it's mounted
[23:11] <HigH5> Hello. I've just set up a server with ssh server, but when I try to connect to it it refuses the connection.
[23:11] <HigH5> Is it the firewall?
[23:11] <Pici> Blokk: To be honest, I'd probably end up doing some googling to see if you need extra modules.  My C2D's thermals work, but I'm not sure if its reading it using my thinkpad modules.
[23:11] <Gatestone> Do you people havce experience with battery management? Does is work usually? On Dells?
[23:12] <Skeesh> anyone know how I can find out my local (lan) IP? is there a command maybe?
[23:12] <bkero> HigH5: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[23:12] <Lunarbunny> any reason why sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop goes to bpx?
[23:12] <drifterz> Only my left front speaker and sub work. Hardware does work. I have logitech 5.1. I can find out exact audio chipset on my Asus P4P800-E deluxe if nessecarry it's intel ICH5 or something I think. Anyone help fix?
[23:12] <dissection> Jupp2: It doesn't say anything
[23:12] <riotkittie> HigH5:  do you have a router or something? ports that might need to be forwarded?
[23:12] <MadDucky> Gatestone, it's not a software thig, it's a motherboard and CPU thing and it can get worse as a laptop ages  --but maybe it wasGutsy PowerNowD *is* buggy in gutsy
[23:12] <Lunarbunny> all I need is some way to kill x where it doesn't just start back up on me
[23:12] <HigH5> Well, no ports to be forwarded.
[23:12] <Blokk> Pici: Ok, so I am looking for "special" modules for my motherboard..?
[23:12] <HigH5> It works well on the other server.
[23:12] <riotkittie> Lunarbunny: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:13] <DaveC> can anyone help with my blender problem?
[23:13] <Lunarbunny> riotkittie: as I said, that makes it restart into what I think is bulletproof x
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> Lunarbunny: Try ctr+alt+f1
[23:13] <astro76> Lunarbunny, are you stopping gdm from a console? not a terminal in X
[23:13] <Pici> Blokk: Just modules for your motherboard, also check the ubuntu forums
[23:13] <Skeesh> anyone know how I can find out my local (lan) IP? is there a command maybe?
[23:13] <riotkittie> errr.
[23:13] <riotkittie> brb
[23:13] <Lunarbunny> odd-rationale: then x is still open on tty7
[23:13] <drifterz> Skeesh: ifconfig
[23:13] <Skeesh> drifterz, thanks
[23:13] <MilitantPotato> Gatestone: try installing xmbattery
[23:13] <revx> i have a cinelerra extracted to a new directory..twas tar.bz2 package before...please help on how to install or configure such app
[23:13] <Gatestone> I am testing the battery alarm now. I have "10 minutes" and no warning, I set it to "suspend when critically slow".
[23:13] <Jupp2> dissection, try making an iso by reading the drive directly, this way we know if linux is accesing the drive at all, "dd if=/dev/hda of=test.iso"
[23:13] <astro76> Lunarbunny, then you can stop it from console 1
[23:13] <sandgrai2> how can i use the rc.local file to run some commands on startup? it isnt doing anything even though i have pasted the commands to the file :/
[23:14] <cizarr> when i install gutsy(both cli and gui) it keep hang/stuck at "Configuring Apt" on something like 40-50% ... anyone?
[23:14] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, without desktop effects I do have direct rendering ... but why is that : Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL
[23:14] <MilitantPotato> Gatestone: nevermind, ignore what I said
[23:14] <DaveC> can anybody help with my blender problem?
[23:14] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, Mesa DRI ???
[23:14] <Lunarbunny> alright, we'll see. expect me to drop out of this channel
[23:14] <Gatestone> In 10 minutes you will know, is I suddenly disppear like last time.
[23:14] <drifterz> DaveC: what you mixing?
[23:14] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: because Compiz disables direct rendering.
[23:14] <HigH5> Nmap told me that the 22 port isn't open.
[23:14] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: mine does the same thing.
[23:14] <biggahed> Pici lots of errors
[23:14] <riotkittie> it shouln't bring up bulletproofx.
[23:14] <DaveC> not that kind of blender, drifterz
[23:14] <DaveC> blender 3D
[23:14] <HigH5> Does this mean I'll have to play with iptables?
[23:14] <temp1234> does anyone know if that hard drive issue with the load cycle count will affect usb drives as well?
[23:15] <riotkittie> good grief. this font/size is obnoxious.
[23:15] <dissection> Jupp2: You mean create an ISO using a different OS?
[23:15] <WorkingOnWise> Hi. Why would a atheros wifi card that worked fine for weeks, showing 45 to 55% signal strength consistantly, would suddenly show either 1-3% or 97-100% signal strength and not able to connect at all to the router? I am on the same laptop now but using a dlink pc card, so the software seems fine.
[23:15] <havoque> P_Kable commpiz uses dRI, not disables it
[23:15] <Lunarbunny> appears I need a reboot, none of them are accepting keyboard input now
[23:15] <Gatestone> 6 % battery left and still no alarm of any kind... is this normal, folks?
[23:15] <astro76> HigH5, port 22 isn't open if you aren't running an ssh server. Have you installed openssh-server ?
[23:15] <aLeSD> hi all
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> DaveC: There is a blender channel #blender
[23:15] <HigH5> Yes
[23:15] <HigH5> Twice..
[23:15] <cizarr> when i install gutsy(both cli and gui) it keep hang/stuck at "Configuring Apt" on something like 40-50% ... anyone heard about this?
[23:15] <aLeSD> I have a dvb usb ... do u know what is the application to control it ?
[23:15] <DaveC> it's a linux/blender problem, Odd-rationale
[23:15] <revx> i have a cinelerra extracted to a new directory..twas tar.bz2 package before...please help on how to install or configure such app.
[23:15] <Jupp2> dissection, no in the Ubuntu terminal, put any cd and type the command in the terminal, if you see the light blnking the it's accessing the drive
[23:15] <MadDucky> cizarr, try using another repository and/or chek you CD/DVD
[23:16] <HigH5> It's 7.10 server edition.
[23:16] <sandgrai2> cizarr: it took a long time on that part for me
[23:16] <havoque> P_Kable are you using the "ati" open source driver in /etc/X11/xorg.cong under device section
[23:16] <DaveC> I have installed ubuntu gutsy 64 and blender crashes whenever i go to camera view
[23:16] <Odd-rationale> DaveC: Just ask you questio and see what happens
[23:16] <ToddEDM> thanks for the quick help on the compiz manager... i was on the phone with my nephew.... he thinks im so smart ;)
[23:16] <drifterz> Anyone know where I can get help for my audio problem, no one here has a soulution and I can't find any help on google forums ect. I see others with the problem and no solutions. Any ideas, brainstorms, links?
[23:16] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, I have Mesa DRI even with the desktop effects off ...
[23:16] <cizarr> sandgrai2: how long please?
[23:16] <P_Kable> havoque, radeon
[23:16] <riotkittie> ToddEDM: hahah.
[23:16] <dissection> Jupp2: It says /dev/hda no such file or directory
[23:16] <ToddEDM> lol
[23:16] <cizarr> sandgrai2: ive waited 20-30min
[23:16] <revx> i have a cinelerra extracted to a new directory..twas tar.bz2 package before...please help on how to install or configure such app.
[23:16] <P_Kable> havoque, same thing with ati
[23:17] <ToddEDM> does dialup work ok with ubuntu?
[23:17] <sandgrai2> cizarr: i cant say.. i left the comp "thinking" and went out to do some other stuff :P
[23:17] <havoque> P_Kable bump, sorry
[23:17] <Jupp2> dissection instead of /dev/hda try /dev/cdrom
[23:17] <cizarr> it like it looking for Mirror? am i have to be connected to the interenet maybe?
[23:17] <dissection> ToddEDM: Yes
[23:17] <cizarr> oh :)
[23:17] <ToddEDM> dissection: excellent....
[23:17] <esjayafk> exit
[23:17] <sandgrai2> cizarr: probably more than an hour.. my net is slow though
[23:17] <P_Kable> havoque, bump ??
[23:17] <dissection> Jupp2: Still the same, /dev/cdrom no such file or directory
[23:18] <feliz> lol
[23:18] <havoque> can't help you, i'm a newbie too
[23:18] <cizarr> i see
[23:18] <cizarr> well, lets give another shoot :d thanks
[23:18] <revx> i have a cinelerra extracted to a new directory..twas tar.bz2 package before...please help on how to install or configure such app.
[23:18] <sandgrai2> cizarr: yw :)
[23:19] <Pici> revx: look for an INSTALL or README file in the new directory
[23:19] <KuKus> hi where is de room of ubunto spanish
[23:19] <Pici> KuKus: #ubuntu-es
[23:19] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: join #compiz-fusion and ask them why compiz turns indirect rendering on
[23:19] <lammy_> can someone help me installing a lan-disk under gudsy gibbon - i don't know the fdisk-stuff ..
[23:19] <KuKus> tanks man
[23:19] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: go double check, I may be mistaken.
[23:19] <revx> there was no readme or install on that extracted file..gushhh
[23:20] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, compiz works fine but glxgears is really choppy and slow
[23:20] <revx> i got kopete running but i cant connect using my yahoo account...but using pigdin wil it goes smooth...????
[23:21] <ToddEDM> sh!t, there is gonna be kids coming to my door soon
[23:21] <astro76> revx, pidgin working fine with yahoo here
[23:21] <astro76> !ohmy | ToddEDM
[23:21] <ubotu> ToddEDM: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[23:21] <WorkingOnWise> Hi. Why would a atheros wifi card that worked fine for weeks, showing 45 to 55% signal strength consistantly, would suddenly show either 1-3% or 97-100% signal strength and not able to connect at all to the router? I am on the same laptop now but using a dlink pc card, so the software seems fine.
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> I encrypted my hard drive with the alternative cd. Will I have any trouble if ever needed to do a fresh install?
[23:22] <revx> yes pigdin is OK but i want a messenger that supports webCam like aMSN...
[23:22] <daniele_> hello i'm italia
[23:22] <ToddEDM> WorkingOnWise: i used to have that problem... i had to go reset my router
[23:22] <Vad> Hello. I have an odd problem with the forums - I can see the Absolute beginners section, and the Other community discussions right below it, with no 'main support' category -anywhere-. Where can I find it?
[23:22] <sandgrai2> is there any "trick" to use rc.local properly? i cant make it work for some reason..
[23:22] <ToddEDM> revx: kopete
[23:22] <chetnick> does awn and affinity work fine on gutsy?
[23:22] <daniele_> no
[23:22] <Vad> awn works fine in gutsy.
[23:22] <HigH5> Hm, that's funny. I can login thru SSH from my other server (thru SSH), but not directly from my workstation.
[23:22] <dissection> Jupp2: Are you still here?
[23:22] <revx> Kopete is what i need...gyachi nahhh ser is some sort of dependncy error
[23:22] <Vad> chetnick: not sure about affinity, it's not being developed anymore.
[23:22] <revx> yes KOPETE
[23:22] <lammy_> how can i get a new sources.list for gutsy
[23:22] <WorkingOnWise> ToddEDM: you had the problem with one nic but not another?
[23:22] <chetnick> ok
[23:23] <chetnick> thanks Vad
[23:23] <daniele_> i'm italian
[23:23] <HigH5> What am I missing here?
[23:23] <daniele_> you?
[23:23] <Jupp2> dissection, yes
[23:23] <Jupp2> dissection, try lshw as root
[23:23] <ToddEDM> WorkingOnWise: no i just had one user
[23:23] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: you have to disable Compiz before doing other 3d related stuff
[23:23] <Jupp2> dissection, "sudo lshw > output.txt"
[23:23] <daniele_> qualcuno parla italianooooooo???
[23:23] <sandgrai2> lammy_:it may be deactivted on system>administration>software sources
[23:23] <P_Kable> yes
[23:23] <daniele_> ubuntu is bitc
[23:24] <WorkingOnWise> ToddEDM: well, I can reset the router and see. thanks
[23:24] <ToddEDM> np
[23:24] <daniele_> ke?
 thanks
[23:24] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: especially if you have older hardware I guess
[23:24] <ToddEDM> WorkingOnWise:  what model router??
[23:24] <FluxD> daniele_: we are here to make it not be one :)
[23:24] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, I see but why was it different in edgy and feisty ??
[23:24] <sandgrai2> lammy_:yw :)
[23:24] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: Different drivers? I've no idea.
[23:24] <FluxD> !it | daniele_
[23:24] <ubotu> daniele_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:24] <P_Kable> no radeon ... the same
[23:25] <whatzup> anyone have an eta for ardour 2.1.1 reaching backports?
[23:25] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable:  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[23:25] <daniele_> ok grazie
[23:25] <WorkingOnWise> ToddEDM: WRT54g
[23:25] <daniele_> ma tu come mi capisci?
[23:25] <ToddEDM> WorkingOnWise: same as mine
[23:25] <revx> got disoriented with this package type tar.bz2 tar.gz...please help im a newbie really confused of the terminal. i have that cinelerra-2.1-src.tar.bz2
[23:26] <kaefert> hey guys! im trying to set up my dell inspiron 1520 on ubuntu and i couldnt find any linux drivers on dells site and i would apriciate some help where to continue my search
[23:26] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, Package xserver-xgl is not installed, so not removed
[23:26] <Jupp2> daniele_, is not hard to tell it's italian, ciao!
[23:26] <P_Kable> I run radeon drive MilitantPotato
[23:26] <biggahed> revx, tar -zxvf cinelerra-2.1-src.tar.bz2
[23:26] <kaefert> ah i forgot to write, my problem are the audio drivers
[23:26] <P_Kable> no fglrx
 wat drivers r u looking for ?
[23:27] <Jupp2> dissection, did you run the lshw?
[23:27] <P_Kable> just like I was on edgy and feisty MilitantPotato
[23:27] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: yea, I was just checking, I've no idea.  do you have git installed?
[23:27] <revx> is it possible to put the file on the desktop?
[23:27] <P_Kable> I use svn, but I can install git
[23:27] <P_Kable> what for ?
[23:27] <biggahed> cp file ~/Desktop
[23:27] <kaefert> tiftine - im searching for audio drivers
[23:27] <daniele_> allora se mi kapite xk me ne dv andare?
[23:28] <ToddEDM> i had all my scanned pictures on my hdd, the originals were lost in a housefire , now that i installed ubuntu over the entire disk, i think they may be lost...
[23:28] <tifine> hey i  want to install the ubuntu on apple macbook is it possible ?
 aren't there backport-repos for gutsy? i replaced feisty with gutsy for that im my sources.list ...
[23:28] <fluffman> hey, what does segmentation fault mean when trying to apt-get install something?
[23:28] <boontoo> hello im having some real problems after the 7.10 update, things are going slow, very slow any ideas why? is there some sort of ubuntu error scanner i can use to fix problems?
[23:28] <Doug52392> hi
[23:28] <biggahed> revx, you should do some basic linux tutorial, when you get some free time.
[23:28] <MilitantPotato> biggahed: won't he need to compile that source package?
 i m using the dell as well i dont think u need audio driver anyway what chipset is   ?
[23:28] <preaction> fluffman, it means something really REALLY bad happened: your system libs are messed up, or your executables are compiled wrong. what did you do?
[23:28] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, what do you want me to DL et compile through git ?
[23:28] <SeanTater> biggahed: .bz2 requires -j not -z
[23:28] <XiXaQ> is it safe to set all xdg-user-dirs to $HOME if you don't want to use separate directories for everything?
[23:29] <daniele_> Jupp2 nn fare tanto lo sperto
[23:29] <MilitantPotato> git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[23:29] <Gatestone> What's the preferred way to use KDE on my basic Gutsy? Install some meta-package with Synaptics and then keep using GDM to switch between session of Gnome and KDE?
 but the backport-repos couldn*t be found ...
[23:29] <revx> ok
[23:29] <SeanTater> biggahed: just a hint :P
[23:29] <fluffman> preaction: i'm trying to get sound to work on an ancient dell latitude cpi
[23:29] <dissection> Jupp2: my lshw output: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=5912
[23:29] <astro76> Gatestone, yes install kubuntu-desktop, I'm not sure if that enables kdm or keeps gdm, but you can use either one
[23:29] <blizzkid> Gatestone, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <fluffman> i follow directions that said to enable some extra kernal modules in /etc/modules
[23:29] <fluffman> would that do it/
[23:30] <biggahed> MilitantPotato, i dont know. Will he?
[23:30] <biggahed> SeanTater, revx> got disoriented with this package type tar.bz2 tar.gz
[23:30] <biggahed> SeanTater, i just skipped the other, but youre correct
[23:30] <preaction> fluffman, not "what are you doing", "what did you do?". the most common reason for segfault is the libraries on your system are incompatible with the executables
[23:30] <kaefert> tifine - how to find out? i couldnt find the audio card in the hardware list
[23:30] <MilitantPotato> biggahed: yes
[23:30] <SeanTater> biggahed: np, just here to help
 did u installed the window complete ?
[23:30] <daniele_> We do not understand anything in this conversation but at least rispondetemi!
[23:31] <ToddEDM> how do i find dns server name
[23:31] <MilitantPotato> daniele, what language?
  if yes then did u try to run any mp file ?
[23:31] <preaction> fluffman, not unless those kernel modules are buggy. old laptops are not good candidates for linux installations usually, full of proprietary hardware
[23:31] <Doug52392> I have been on my new computer which has Fedora 7 on it, and recently dug my old laptop out, which has Ubuntu Linux on it, but its been so long since I've used it that i can't remeber my password. I am logged in as root now, but I would like to use my other user name. How do I change my user name while logged in as root?
[23:31] <daniele_> italian
[23:31] <kaefert> install what window? another question, how to whisper in IRC?
[23:31] <MilitantPotato> #ubuntu-it
[23:31] <SeanTater> ToddEDM: if you ping it , the ping command will tell you..
[23:31] <fluffman> preaction: shoot...I don't remember what all I've tried today
[23:31] <preaction> ToddEDM, less /etc/resolv.conf <- has the IPs of the DNS servers your system is currently using
 ubuntu
[23:31] <SeanTater> ToddEDM: Oh -- I misunderstood
[23:31] <blizzkid> Doug52392, man passwd
[23:31] <biggahed> MilitantPotato, I just read one screen. didnt see if he said anything about compiling.
[23:31] <ToddEDM> my nephew is trying to get online with dialup ... he needs to know his DNS server name
[23:31] <preaction> fluffman, then you might be in a "reinstall" position. if you don't remember what you did, you might not be able to undo it...
  window -> ubuntu ?
[23:31] <fluffman> preaction: i think it happened after uninstall a failed java install
[23:32] <SeanTater> ToddEDM: You can find it in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:32] <kaefert> yes i installed it completly
[23:32] <biggahed> revx, what you need is tar -xjvf to uncompress that package
[23:32] <MilitantPotato> daniele_: sorry that was empty X(
[23:32] <MilitantPotato> !italian
[23:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:32] <MrPink> /join #compiz-fusion
[23:32] <preaction> fluffman, if you were installing from the repositories, it should never happen
  just try to run any audio cd
[23:32] <kaefert> but the sound doesnt work
[23:32] <fluffman> i haven't done any compiling, everything was from the repos
[23:32] <MilitantPotato> !italian | daniele_
[23:32] <ubotu> daniele_: please see above
[23:32] <sandgrai2> lammy_:they are also disabled :P
[23:32] <Jupp2> dissection, sorry don't know what to tell you looks like ubuntu is now seeing you dvd at all. keep asking in the chanel, sorry
   wat error messages do u get ?
[23:32] <SeanTater> ToddEDM: That's where it would be if it's already set up. In most cases you can use your router if you have one, and otherwise, DHCP should fill it in for you..
[23:32] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, what is this fusion-icon ??
[23:32] <preaction> ToddEDM, it won't be a "name", it will be an IP address. you can't resolve a DNS "name" until you have a DNS server, so you need the DNS server's IP address
[23:33] <revx> already uncompress the package, whats next? cant see readme or install
[23:33] <SeanTater> ToddEDM: If nothing else, AOL.com or other website will tell you, as most ISP's have their own
[23:33] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: an easy way to control compiz, see if you can uncheck Indirect Rendering.
[23:33] <fluffman> i guess i'll just reinstall and try again...this will make 3 or 4 of them on this laptop, lol
[23:33] <fluffman> thanks, preaction
[23:33] <fluffman> :D
[23:33] <dissection> Thats what I'm doing two months :[
[23:33] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, it is installed but I don't know what to do
[23:33] <dissection> *since
[23:33] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: run fusion-icon
[23:33] <daniele_> 	
[23:33] <daniele_> Ke's someone speaks italianoooooo
[23:33] <sandgrai2> lammy_:its in the same place, just another tab
[23:33] <kaefert> the error reads "es konnten keine GStreamer-Plugins und/oder Geräte für Mischpultelemente gefunden werden."
[23:33] <SeanTater> !it | daniele_
[23:33] <ubotu> daniele_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:34] <dissection> Can anyone help me get my cd/dvd drive to work in Ubuntu?
[23:34] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: right click the icon by the time, choose Compiz Options, is Indirect Rendering greyed out?
[23:34] <daniele_> ok
  oh man it is not with the audio problem it is with the media player u using it
[23:34] <TUXedomember> how do i share my dvd drive over the network?
[23:34] <daniele_> ma come
[23:34] <daniele_> ?
  anyways just do one thing first
[23:34] <blizzkid> daniele_, /join #ubuntu-it
[23:34] <astro76> daniele_, type /join #ubuntu-it
  try sudo apt-get update
[23:34] <daniele_> 	
[23:34] <daniele_> Ok, but how can I? ? I want to chat
[23:35] <daniele_> what?
[23:35] <zetheroo> when trying to mount a USB Hard Drive I frequently get an error telling me that I need to disable it from a Windows machine in the proper fashion.... is there a way around this? I do not have a Windows machine!
[23:35] <P_Kable> MilitantPotato, yep it is greyed
[23:35] <kaefert> well the error comes already when i try to adjust the sound volume, not when i start a player
[23:35] <MilitantPotato> zetheroo: unmount it before you unplug it
[23:35] <daniele_> i love you
[23:35] <P_Kable> that menu reminds me beryl MilitantPotato ;)
  one sec
[23:35] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: join #compiz-fusion
[23:36] <daniele_> 	
[23:36] <daniele_> Fool
[23:36] <MilitantPotato> P_Kable: they'll be able to explain why it's doing that in more detail.
[23:36] <daniele_> foll
[23:36] <daniele_> foll
[23:36] <zetheroo> MilitantPotato: ummm... I just said I do not have a Windows machine
[23:36] <Pir8> I have two drives one of them is where all my downloads are (NTFS) and another one is a personal portable drive (USB). So sometimes when I start ubuntu it will detect and mount the NTFS drive and sometimes it wont, but it almost always mounts the USB drive.
[23:36] <amaia> hi, i am having problems with high cpu i/o times putting my laptop unusable... is there any tool to check wich process is doing this?
[23:36] <astro76> !ot | daniele_
[23:36] <ubotu> daniele_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:36] <boontoo> After the 7.04 fiesty to 7.10 ubuntu im finding  my computer really lagy any ideas?
[23:36] <kaefert> i ran that line "sudo apt-get update" but it didnt change anything
[23:36] <Pir8> Is that normal ?
  okie how about you install another player for the audio i m using it
[23:36] <MilitantPotato> zetheroo: have you used that drive in linux before?
 let try that one
[23:36] <zetheroo> MilitantPotato: yes
[23:37] <Pir8> do I need to configure/set something specific in addition to what ubuntu does to mount/find the NTFS drive ?
[23:37] <MilitantPotato> zetheroo: before you unplugged it, did you unmount it?
[23:37] <daniele_> foll
[23:37] <daniele_> foll
[23:37] <SeanTater> amaia: most system monitor programs will tell you which processes are in Disk Sleep
[23:37] <daniele_> foll
[23:37] <daniele_> foll
[23:37] <blizzkid> daniele_, basta!
[23:37] <zetheroo> MilitantPotato: yes....
[23:37] <Jimd1> militantpotato:  i was just thinking.  If you lost a battle would that mean you are mashed or fried?
[23:37] <MilitantPotato> !spam | daniele_
[23:37] <ubotu> daniele_: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[23:37] <Mandrivaboy2008> everybody hates ubuntu
[23:37] <astro76> !ops | daniele_
[23:37] <ubotu> daniele_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[23:37] <Mandrivaboy2008> it sucks balls
[23:37] <raar> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and can't get internet access to work, eth0 doesn't have an ip address from the dhcp server but eth0:avah does... however when I try to ping anything (even my router) it tells me 'Destination Host Unreachable'.. what could be wrong?
[23:37] <Mandrivaboy2008> kinda like you guys
[23:37] <astro76> !ops | Mandrivaboy2008 too
[23:37] <ubotu> Mandrivaboy2008 too: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
 ?
[23:37] <SeanTater> amaia: If you want to measure your hard drive usage install the package "sysstat" and then run -> iostat -mxd 3 <- and wait until about the third readout
[23:38] <zetheroo> MilitantPotato: but if someone borrows it and plugs it into a Windows machine and then fails to remove it properly, I am unable to mount the drive in Linux.....
[23:38] <dissection> Can anyone help me get my cd/dvd drive to work in Ubuntu?
[23:38] <amaia> SeanTater, the gnome system monitor doesnt have any info about i/o
[23:38] <Jimd1> mandrivaboy2008:  is jealous
[23:38] <amaia> SeanTater, gonna install that one
[23:38] <MilitantPotato> zetheroo: there's a repair command somewhere, let me look it up
[23:38] <Jimd1> mandrivaboy2008<-is jealous
[23:38] <SeanTater> amaia: Install and run htop then
[23:38] <zetheroo> MilitantPotato: ok...thanks
  just install xmms
[23:38] <daniele_> ubotu foll
[23:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:38] <daniele_> foll
[23:38] <gcarrillo> i love ubuntu
[23:38] <daniele_> foll
  sudo apt-get install xmms
[23:38] <daniele_> foll
[23:38] <blizzkid> daniele_, BASTA!!
[23:39] <tifine> i love ubuntu 2
[23:39] <daniele_> i love ubuntu
[23:39] <gcarrillo> hehe
[23:39] <SeanTater> amaia: scratch that, don't bother with htop
[23:39] <amaia> :D
[23:39] <amaia> already installed
[23:39] <SeanTater> amaia: If you don't mind KDE, try ksysguard
 when did u install the ubuntu ?
[23:39] <amaia> ok
[23:39] <kaefert> okey, and what am i installing there?
[23:39] <kaefert> ähm maybe 2 hours ago
[23:40] <amaia> SeanTater, installing ksysguard
[23:40] <tifine> u r just installing a audio player
[23:40] <MilitantPotato> elkbuntu: ty
  did u do the sudo apt-get update   and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:40] <boontoo> After the 7.04 fiesty to 7.10 ubuntu im finding  my computer really lagy any ideas?
[23:40] <SeanTater> raar: tell us in a pastebin entry what this command -> ifconfig <- says
[23:40] <dissection> Can anyone help me get my cd/dvd drive to work in Ubuntu?
[23:40] <kaefert> yes
[23:40] <SeanTater> amaia: :)
[23:40] <tifine> alrite good good man
[23:41] <raar> SeanTater: okay
[23:41] <tifine> now just install the thinga as i said it above
[23:41] <kimguru87> hey guys anyone has used "Apt On CD" software i need some help regarding resoring packages on my friend's pc
[23:41] <amaia> SeanTater, im running ksysguard and it has a tree with a "disk throughput"
[23:41] <blizzkid> kimguru87, you mean using apt-get with cd-repo's?
[23:42] <amaia> SeanTater, but inside i find a bunch of 1:0 1:1 1:2 and so on... which is what??
[23:42] <Jimd1> what's the command to change your name in irc?
[23:42] <SeanTater> amaia: I don;t know, I've never gotten anything but 0 from any of those
[23:42] <amaia> :D
[23:42] <blizzkid> Jimd1, /nick
[23:42] <amaia> thats nice
[23:42] <amaia> running  iostat -mxd 3
[23:42] <SeanTater> amaia: I've often tried to track down which process is using IO, but I've never found any to be effective
[23:43] <Jimdb> thanks blizzkid
[23:43] <SeanTater>  /any programs/ that is
[23:43] <blizzkid> np Jimdb
[23:43] <kaefert> tifine - i did
[23:43] <aguitel> how install some program with the live cd to de disk ?
[23:43] <arnducky> kimguru87, it's very simple.  It backs up repos to CD/DVD disc or IS
[23:43] <amaia> SeanTater, ok that my problem too then... iostat doesnt give me a process list... just the numbers
 alrite now can u please try to run any audio file let see
[23:44] <zim> hi all just a quick Q is sourceforge.net broken or is it my pc
[23:44] <Jimdb> had two meltdowns today.  after restarting i couldn't get any icons on my desktop and ubuntu was unresponsive.  I ultimately had to delete the .compiz config files.  then just now I had an issue where my windows started freezing up when I launched pidgin.  I had to uninstall and reinstall it.
[23:44] <SeanTater> amaia: I thought there was a command for listing open files, but I can't seem to find it.. It should tell you which ones are related to which process, unfortunately, it also does not show throughput
[23:44] <jewbilee> zim: it loads on my computer
[23:44] <zim> :)
[23:44] <zim> ty
[23:44] <jewbilee> np
[23:44] <nickrud> SeanTater: lsof ?
[23:44] <blizzkid> zim, my first bet would be to try other websites...
yes i know but after restoring packages are not installed how can i install them
[23:45] <arnducky> SeanTater, lsof
[23:45] <amaia> lsof is good
[23:45] <kaefert> ähm in the upper right corner there is this audio icon, and it has this red cossed circle and if i try to turn the sound on it brings me the error message i wrote you
[23:45] <SeanTater> arnducky: thanks, you said that just as I found it
[23:45] <amaia> but does it measure the quantity of i/o by process?
[23:45] <SeanTater> nickrud: thanks too
[23:45] <SeanTater> amaia: that's what I was looking for
[23:45]  * nickrud feels all warm now :)
[23:45] <ConstyXIV> can you lock windows to desktops?
[23:45] <SeanTater> amaia: I don;t know atm
[23:46] <arnducky> kimguru87, you have to add the CD/DVD or mounted .ISO file as a source for apt
[23:46] <zim> anyone in here in the uk and on bt bband
[23:46] <nickrud> ConstyXIV: you can use devilspie to do that
[23:46] <jewbilee> What language would you guys suggest for good program development?  All i know is a little bit of java but I would like to try and learn more
[23:46] <zim> can you try http://www.sourceforge.net/
[23:46] <Jimdb> is there a way to add a right click menu entry to mount .iso files (and unmount them)?
[23:46] <arnducky> either edit your sources.list or use a package manager to add it (hint Gnome has an applet called 'Sources')
[23:47]  * SeanTater could still use nickrud's help
 and how can i do this?
[23:47] <nickrud> Jimdb: you can create a script that would do that
[23:47] <ConstyXIV> jewbilee: if youre sticking with java, use eclipse or netbeans
[23:47] <jewbilee> not IDEs, another language to try and learn
[23:47] <Jimdb> nickrud:  know of any known scripts that I can just add to my script folder?
[23:47] <jewbilee> im looking for language suggestions
[23:47] <nickrud> SeanTater: I've looked for a throughput meter also, but no luck
[23:47] <SeanTater> nickrud: Do you know any way to pinpoint which processes are utilizing disks?
[23:47] <tifine> jewbilee: i think eclipse is more advance but i m interested more in netbeans
[23:47] <rafael__> hello. i have wireless here
[23:47] <ConstyXIV> jewbilee: python python python
[23:47] <arnducky> kimguru87, Gnome: 'System' --> 'Administration' --> 'Software Sources'
[23:48] <SeanTater> nickrud: :-|
[23:48] <rafael__> but in the boot that never find the network config
 ok
[23:48] <jewbilee> Consty: really?
[23:48] <rafael__> i need to cancel that and after the login the wireless connect
[23:48] <rafael__> what can i do ?
[23:48] <tifine> jewbilee: I think Java is the best
[23:48] <zim> is anyone here in the uk on bt bband can you try http://www.sourceforge.net/ as i can connect to any other site just not http://www.sourceforge.net/ so im guessing it a DNS thing
[23:48] <ConstyXIV> jewbilee: yeah, it's pretty slick IMHO
[23:48] <kishan> i read the ubuntu kills laptp harddrive is it true,i want to know does enabling acip-tools at start up has a impact on the powermanagement
[23:48] <Skeesh> how do I set up a system so another system can netboot off it? the directions on the wiki are over my head
[23:48] <nickrud> Jimdb: I've found a few scripts on http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/ that I've used
[23:48] <blizzkid> zim, nslookup
[23:48] <ConstyXIV> jewbilee: a good bit of the stuff in ubuntu's written in python
[23:48] <Gatestone> Can I use my Kingston secure USB thumb? It has this exe file that needs to be run on Windows to open the encrypted part, and Kingston does not support Linux for that, as far as I know....
[23:49] <Puppy_> How do I find out what my cdroms are called (like cdrom1 or cdrom2)?
[23:49] <blizzkid> Gatestone, have you tried google?
[23:49] <MilitantPotato> zim: DNS issue it seems, the website works for me.
 I m sorry that is the best i can help you with that but if you interested in installing or trying any update software then here is the url for that https://help.ubuntu.com/
[23:49] <nickrud> Jimdb: and it has http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/nautilus-scripts/File%20System%20Management/Mount_Image :)
[23:49] <MilitantPotato> zim: i'm in the USA though.
[23:49] <zim> ty
[23:50] <ivan> hi how do i set background image with a command?
[23:50] <arnducky> kimguru87, then you have to select packages individually and install.  APTonCD does not support 'restore' scripts yet but they're working on it.   One thing you can do with Synaptic though is save your package markings to a file and then open it to restore the system -- this should work well with an APTonCD repository
[23:50] <kishan> Gatestone, i think it will not work in linux but u can install other encryption methods which are compatable with linux
[23:50] <SeanTater> amaia: ah ha!
[23:50] <amaia> ?
[23:50] <SeanTater> amaia: google seems to indicate atop os what we are looking for, and the repos have it
[23:50] <SeanTater>  /os/is/
[23:50] <amaia> ... trying
[23:51] <sickclown> Hello All, Looking for help with MySQL installation - I get access denied when I try to give it a root password on the initial setup
[23:51] <amaia> atop gives me "No disk-activity figures available; request ignored!"
[23:51] <amaia> :(
[23:52] <zim> Server:         192.168.0.1
[23:52] <zim> Address:        192.168.0.1#53
[23:52] <zim> ** server can't find http://www.sourceforge.net/: SERVFAIL
[23:52] <mneptok> zim: do not paste to the channel
[23:52] <zim> sorry about the muli liner
[23:52] <ivan> any 1 know command for changing background, i am running larswm need to modify my xsession
[23:52] <Skeesh> how do I set up a system so another system can netboot off it? the directions on the wiki are over my head
[23:52] <Puppy_> How do I find out what my computer calls my cdroms? Anyone?
[23:53] <Gatestone> kishan: thx for the hint. I'll take a look at more standard ways to encrypt USB thumb drives.
[23:53] <blizzkid> Puppy_, cd /media && ls
[23:53] <SeanTater> amaia: try installing this: kernel-patch-atopcnt
[23:53] <spasticteapot> Anyone else have the problem where they can't adjust their screen brightness of their laptop?
[23:53] <amaia>  This information can only be shown when kernel patch ‘cnt’ is installed.
[23:53] <zim> that was from my office  on another provider (demon) but both in the uk
[23:53] <nickrud> Puppy_: ls -l /dev/cdrom
[23:53] <Puppy_> blizzkid: thanks!
[23:53] <amaia> ya
[23:53] <blizzkid> yw Puppy_
[23:53] <ToddEDM> how do  iget my gDesklets to come on at startup?
[23:53] <Puppy_> thanks nickrud!
[23:54] <zim> is any one here in the UK on demon or
[23:54] <nickrud> Puppy_: two different answers, both true, you choose which is the one you needed :)
[23:54] <mneptok> amaia: sudo apt-get install bonnie++ dbench
[23:54] <zim> BT
[23:54] <OldPink> Guys, if you don't mind, any quick help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3680575#post3680575
[23:54] <sickclown> Hello All, Looking for help with MySQL installation - I get access denied when I try to give it a root password on the initial setup
[23:54] <davf> Where/can I d/l the latest gutsy generic kernel tree?
[23:55] <nickrud> davf: install linux-source-2.6.22 , it'll end up as a tarball in /usr/src
[23:55] <OldPink> Using dd. Taking from sda1 to image.raw took 90 minutes. Now putting image.raw onto a different sda1 has taken, so far, four hours, with time still going. Is this right, or should I just cancel? More info inc. terminal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3680575#post3680575
[23:55] <Milkinator> can anyone in here help me with audio?
[23:55] <MilitantPotato> OldPink: What's your CPU usage at?
i am a newbie so plz dont mind this stupid question .suppose i have created iso and burned it to cd.what line should i add to source.list to fetch packages from cd
[23:55] <amaia> SeanTater, i need to reboot for the patch to apply right?
[23:55] <davf> nickrud - but I the compiled with source .deb
[23:56] <Puppy_> I need help... I have a cdrom that won't eject.
[23:56] <SeanTater> amaia: Dunno -- sounds right
[23:56] <amaia> mneptok, this is to benchmark the disk i/o capacity right?
[23:56] <davf> nickrud: I don't want to recompile the whole thing. just 2 wireless drivers
[23:56] <amaia> mneptok, im looking for other stuf
[23:56] <OldPink>  MilitantPotato:3.11, 2.69, 2.22 over the past 1, 5, 15 minutes
[23:56] <MilitantPotato> OldPink: you're doing a whopping 1mbps that is really, really slow, 50x slower then the average drive can read
[23:56] <SeanTater> amaia: modprobe doesn;t seem to have a module for it
[23:57] <kslater> runmode 5, switch to a tty, can't login, don't even get prompted for password, just immediate Login Incorrect message. Any clues to check?
[23:57] <Gatestone> BYW, thx for everybodt here. I think this channel is the second best reason to use Ubuntu. The package/repo system is the best.
[23:57] <amaia> SeanTater, k... reboot it is
[23:57] <amaia> brb
[23:57] <MilitantPotato> OldPink: do you have hdparm ?
[23:57] <OldPink> MilitantPotato: 1mbps read, surely that's still around 0.5mbps write, in which case, it would end one hour ago?
[23:57] <amaia> SeanTater, txs for your time
[23:57] <NewBlue> yeah beat that Old Pink
[23:57] <maniaxmax> My Compiz Fuzion splash screen used to be transparent when it loaded up and now its not, anyone know a fix for this?
[23:57] <Jessid> hello. I have a big problem. I installed a wireless driver in a laptop and now it does not starts the system. Please, somo of you have any idea how to undo what i did???? Is it possible to do that using a live cd??? thanks a lot!!!
[23:57] <NewBlue> Its the new and improved blue!
[23:57] <OldPink> NewBlue: LOL
[23:57] <Skeesh> how do I set up a system so another system can netboot off it? the directions on the wiki are over my head
[23:58] <OldPink> MilitantPotato: Sorry, no idea about hdparm
[23:58] <DrX> how do i fix "failed to mount cd:///?devices=/dev/sdb" ???
[23:58] <DrX> (drive is mounted at /mountpoint rw)
[23:58] <MilitantPotato> OldPink: it lets you test the read speed of drives
[23:58] <OldPink> MilitantPotato:I think it's screwed
[23:58] <jellymaster> Hey is anyone good with wireless here? I got my Card working finally and it says it's connected and receiving internet but I can't use the internet :(
[23:59] <MilitantPotato> OldPink: and edit a couple performance settings, but either way, that should of finished long ago.
[23:59] <OldPink> MilitantPotato:Surely 4 hours is waayy to long?
[23:59] <OldPink> MilitantPotato: Anything I should have done before root@matt-desktop:/home/matt# dd if=/image.raw of=/dev/sda1 ?
[23:59] <OldPink>  
[23:59] <MilitantPotato> 5.5gb...  is it writing to disk at all?
[23:59] <bulmer> is there an option on wget to retrieve all the files in a dir, where I dont need to type each name?