[00:00] <DaSkreech> Nothing much
[00:00] <RLoggia> you using ati?
[00:00] <lordofthepigs> ardchoille: Can it display a history graph?
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[00:01] <ardchoille> lordofthepigs: History? I don't see that in the System Panels tab, no :(
[00:01] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: when i install the driver and enable the restricted driver....it gives me the can not find screens error :(
[00:01] <aztyx__> whats the whisper commando in mirc?
[00:01] <Gulars>  /msg
[00:01] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: dunno. Installed the ATI driver once crashed my system got fed up
[00:02] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: so you stopped using ati?
[00:02] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: No I stopped using fglrx
[00:02] <ardchoille> I had nothing but problems with that Restricted Manager, I finally installed the drivers via command line and it's been great since.
[00:02] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ohh...so how did you get it working?
[00:03] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: I used the ati driver. The fglrx driver is made by AMD
[00:03] <DaSkreech> the ati one is open source
[00:03] <t3ch13> Does anybody know where I can find the how to to fixthe boot splashscreen problem in Gutsy? I kno you have to change the usplash.conf file to 1024x768 resolution but can't remember the 2nd step
[00:04] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: where you get it from?
[00:04] <DaSkreech> Which?
[00:04] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ait opensource
[00:04] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ati even
[00:04] <DaSkreech> It ships by bydefault
[00:04] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: in the apt-get?
[00:04] <DaSkreech> Yep
[00:05] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: as the resticted driver?
[00:05] <DaSkreech> No the restricted driver is fglrx
[00:05] <RLoggia> ohh
[00:05] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: you know the apt-get command for the ati driver?
[00:05] <DaSkreech> yup
[00:06] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: would you be willing to walk me through plz? im pretty new to linux
[00:06] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: just know the basics
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Did you read the page eh bot sent you?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> the
[00:06] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: just do what that page says?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: What are you trying to get working?
[00:06] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: 3d rendering
[00:06] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: and extended desktop
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Then you just follow he page
[00:07] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[00:07] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:07] <DaSkreech> then that page ^^^ :-)
[00:07] <nzk> Somehow, my session was saved a few weeks ago. Since Firefox crashes and freezes my computer 20 or 30 times a day, I have to restart extremely often. Anyway, how do I keep those programs from running upon startup?
[00:08] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ERROR: Module ati does not exist in /proc/modules
[00:09] <DaSkreech> For which command?
[00:09] <DaSkreech> nzk: The easy way is close all the rpograms and logout
[00:09] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: travis@MOCHO:~$ rmmod ati
[00:11] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: that's fine
[00:12] <RLoggia> ok so just go to next step?
[00:14] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: YES
[00:19] <flick> i have switched to kubuntu, and decided to stay this way... how do i remove the gnome crap from my system?
[00:20] <DaSkreech> !purekde
[00:20] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[00:21] <flick> thanks a lot, DaSkreech!
[00:23] <Merrittkr> Mmm, another one joins the KDE side... :)
[00:24] <FireHazard17> ok my new kernel is done and loaded but my video is vesa and my sound is gone, i must be missing modules how do i fix this
[00:24] <DaSkreech> flick: welcome to Kubuntu!
[00:24] <FireHazard17> i suppose i will have to compile them for this kernel, where are they located ?
[00:25] <DaSkreech> FireHazard17: install the modules for your hardware
[00:25] <aks44> Did anyoen have issues with "giant fonts" in 7.10?
[00:25] <FireHazard17> DaSkreech: how
[00:26] <FireHazard17> no package is available
[00:26] <FireHazard17> please ban eric
[00:26] <LJ> eric eric eric
[00:26] <flick> DaSkreech, oh thanks! i was fedup with the way i could do nothing with gnome, i installed KDE - i really like the way i can do everything here. after keeping gnome for 1 month, and visiting it one last time, i still see no desire to go back. hence i bid good bye to gnome
[00:27]  * FireHazard17 is away: 
[00:27] <DaSkreech> flick: Hope you enjoy it :)
[00:27] <RLoggia> ok that didnt work
[00:27] <DaSkreech> !away | FireHazard17
[00:27] <ubotu> FireHazard17: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[00:27] <DaSkreech> FireHazard17: What hardware do you have?
[00:27] <RLoggia> DaSkreech i tried that and got the same error i've been getting
[00:27] <flick> oh you bet! thanks for the purekde link, it's nice - i didn't expect cleaning up all the crap will be that easy.
[00:28] <RLoggia> had to log into safe graphix mode from disk
[00:28] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: Which is?
[00:28] <FireHazard17> well the video is integrated nvidia 6150
[00:28] <LJ> eric eric eric eric eric eric
[00:28] <LJ> eric eric eric eric eric eric
[00:28] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: can not find screens
[00:28] <DaSkreech> !nvidia | FireHazard17
[00:28] <ubotu> FireHazard17: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:28] <FireHazard17> but even the open source nv drivers do ont work
[00:28] <FireHazard17> DaSkreech: that is not helpful
[00:29] <DaSkreech> FireHazard17: the 6150? Hmm have you tried #ubuntuforums ?
[00:29] <FireHazard17> it is becuase i hand compiled my kernel
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Ah
[00:29] <lordofthepigs> How do I get Dolphin to display a nice tree view?
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Ok then yeah you need to compile in support :)
[00:29] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: everyone says thats how they got it working but those steppes on that forums just gets me to the same place
[00:29] <FireHazard17> it works of i go back to he defualt kernel
[00:29] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: compile in support?
[00:29] <LJ> where's Eric
[00:29] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: you are setting it up with two monitors?
[00:29] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: Wasn't meant for you
[00:30] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: you mean starting the whole process with 2 installed?
[00:30] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: or two hooked up rather?
[00:30] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: do you have two monitors hooked up now?
[00:30] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ya
[00:30] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[00:30] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[00:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:30] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: try that link ^^^
[00:31] <LJ> i got one monitor hooked up
[00:31] <aks44> glad to see everyone here bothers about newcomers. nice meeting ya, cya around.
[00:31] <cooler> hy
[00:32] <lordofthepigs> !dolphin
[00:32] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:32]  * DaSkreech waves at aks44
[00:32] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ok here's the problem though...i think i have to reinstal linux again in order to be able to do that :(
[00:33] <DaSkreech> RLoggia: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:33] <lordofthepigs> hmm... is it possible to replace the bookmarks panel in dolphin by a filesystem tree view?
[00:33] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: from the command line that it puts me at when i take the disk out?
[00:34] <niosop> Hello, I'm trying to get an interactive script to run from rc.local, but it's not working.  The script runs, and output works, but it's supposed to wait for input, and it doesn't, just goes to the login prompt (which won't accept keystrokes).  Any ideas?
[00:34] <DaSkreech> lordofthepigs: not sure not that I've seen
[00:35] <DaSkreech> !ops
[00:35] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[00:36] <Merrittkr> lordofthepigs: Ty ^_^ was wondering why the hell Konqueror was still opening folders instead of Dolphin.. I like dolphin better even if it has almost 0 config options lol
[00:37] <DaSkreech> Thanks nalioth
[00:37] <Merrittkr> Cleanup time apparently..
[00:38] <ardchoille> Good thing I have "hide joins/parts/quits" enabled I guess :)
[00:38] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Yup
[00:39] <lordofthepigs> er... I guess I will use konqueror then
[00:39] <lordofthepigs> I don't find file managers without a tree view very practical...
[00:39] <ardchoille> lordofthepigs: Same here. And I gotta have a tabbed ui in a fm
[00:40] <Merrittkr> Konqueror just works too damn slow.
[00:41] <sniffy96> anyone here know if there will be beta4 packages available for gutsy?
[00:42] <DaSkreech> sniffy96: yes
[00:43] <sniffy96> DaSkreech: cool. thanks. any idea when they'll be available? will i need to add an additional repository?
[00:43] <DaSkreech> Most likely on the day that Beta4 ships
[00:45] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: ok got my stuff back but........
[00:45] <RLoggia> DaSkreech: i unhooked the other monitor and thought maybe i could enable the restricted driver that way...same thing though
[00:46] <sniffy96> DaSkreech: that's what i thought, but beta 4 was released on Oct 30 and i haven't seen anything yet
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Oh They are at the UDS
[00:46] <DaSkreech> When they get back
[00:47] <RLoggia> how do i fix this error?
[00:47] <RLoggia> travis@MOCHO:~$ compiz --release
[00:47] <RLoggia> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[00:47] <RLoggia> No whitelisted driver found
[00:47] <RLoggia> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[00:47] <RLoggia> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[00:47] <sniffy96> ah right. i suppose i could wait a couple of days ^_^
[00:48] <RLoggia> anyone know?
[00:49] <RLoggia> lol im about to just find somebody to hack my system...get the freaking driver going and then hack out...this whole deal is becoming gay
[00:50] <RLoggia> irc://irc.ubuntu.com:8001/kubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <RLoggia> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:51] <mneptok> RLoggia: "gay" as an epithet is entirely unwelcome in #*ubuntu channels
[00:52] <RLoggia> mneptok: ohh sorry my bad but this crap is getting on my nerves
[00:54] <DaSkreech> compiz --replace ?
[00:54] <RLoggia> that doesnt help me
[00:54] <RLoggia> thats the command i tried and got that message that i paste above
[00:55] <DeadCPU> hack hack ,sorry just a fur ball
[00:55] <DaSkreech> you had --release
[00:57] <DaSkreech> Gotta run
[00:58] <RLoggia> DeSkreech: this sucks lol
[01:04] <RLoggia> anyone using the ATI HD Radeon 2600?
[01:05] <mneptok> RLoggia: are you trying to get Compiz working with KDE and a Radeon?
[01:06] <RLoggia> mneptok: yes
[01:06] <amazen720> is there any other site like KDE-look,org because that site looks like it's down
[01:06] <mneptok> don't bother
[01:06] <RLoggia> why not?
[01:06] <donsdw> I lost my ability to log in to kubuntu after a boot.  Asks for username and password, but does not accept them.
[01:06] <RLoggia> mneptok: is there no way to do it?
[01:06] <mneptok> RLoggia: because ATI's drivers are terrible, Compiz isn't working as well with KDE as with GNOME, and it's not a critical feature
[01:07] <RLoggia> mneptok: should i try running gnome?
[01:07] <amazen720> oopse my bad it's up again
[01:07] <sj> ati+compiz = lose.
[01:08] <sj> from my experience, anyway
[01:08] <RLoggia> how do i switched to gnome from kde?
[01:08] <LjL> !kde
[01:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[01:08] <RLoggia> sj: i know your pain lol
[01:08] <mneptok> RLoggia: why would you do that?
[01:08] <LjL> RLoggia: same as above, but ubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <mneptok> RLoggia: why are you going through this crap for *Compiz*?
[01:08] <mneptok> it's *optional eye candy*
[01:09] <mneptok> stop picking at your scabs and start doing something meaningful with your machine ;)
[01:09] <RLoggia> mneptok: its eye candy period lol....i have nothing else for my graphix lol
[01:09] <RLoggia> mneptok: and i want my duel monitors
[01:09] <mneptok> "dual"
[01:09] <RLoggia> mneptok: ya lol
[01:09] <mneptok> and Compiz won't help with that
[01:10] <RLoggia> mneptok: there's a way to get without compiz?
[01:10] <sj> if you're having driver issues in kde, chances are you'll have them in gnome.
[01:10] <mneptok> that's like saying "how do i tear the engine out of my HummVee? i'm trying to get the stereo louder."
[01:11]  * mneptok fails to understand this fascination with Compiz
[01:11] <RLoggia> mneptok: if i can get dual monitors i really dont care about compiz lol
[01:12]  * sj comes for the compiz, but stays for the linux.
[01:12] <mneptok> !info xinerama
[01:12] <ubotu> Package xinerama does not exist in gutsy
[01:13] <mneptok> liar
[01:13] <RLoggia> lol
[01:13] <LjL> mneptok: it's not lying
[01:13] <mneptok> http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/howto/Set+Up+Dual+Monitors+-+xorg.conf
[01:14] <mneptok> LjL: xinerama got pulled?
[01:14] <mneptok> heresy.
[01:14] <keekee> how do you add a startup script?
[01:15] <LjL> mneptok: there is no package called that.
[01:15] <LjL> !find xinerama
[01:15] <ubotu> Found: libxcb-xinerama0, libxcb-xinerama0-dbg, libxcb-xinerama0-dev, libxinerama-dev, libxinerama1 (and 2 others)
[01:15] <keekee> id like certain programs to startup on boot
[01:15] <LjL> !boot
[01:15] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:31] <dyinglove> Holaaaaaa
[01:32] <Azzco> I'm not able to boot from CD (only displays ISOLINUX version and date) is this a bios setting, and if so what could it be?
[01:35] <hagabaka> hmm, how do I start using beryl?
[01:35] <tuxwulf> Azzco: It seems to me if you see the isolinux thingy your system *is* booting from CD. I myself had similar problems with a damaged CD.
[01:36] <Azzco> tuxwulf: I've tried with half a dozen of CDs now..
[01:36] <tuxwulf> Azzco > ... I see... Have you tried the CDs in another cdrom drive?
[01:36] <tekteen> has anyone gotten the install cds to work in qemu
[01:36] <tekteen> ?
[01:37] <Azzco> tuxwulf: only got one I'm afraid
[01:38] <tuxwulf> Azzco > oh.... YOU see, I have also had the experience that CDs work in one drive but not another. I think because tracks and/or sectors are not completely aligned. Did you burn the CDs in the same player as which you are trying to boot from...?
[01:39] <Jucato> !compiz | hagabaka
[01:39] <ubotu> hagabaka: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:39] <Jucato> (beryl's "gone" btw)
[01:39] <Azzco> tuxwulf: Yeah, also tried with one that wasn't
[01:40] <hagabaka> hmm
[01:40] <tuxwulf> Azzco > ... Can your system boot from any cdrom? Any at all? Or none at all?
[01:41] <Azzco> I haven't tried anything except for LiveCDs so I'm not sure, going to see if I've got a winXP cd or something
[01:41] <Azzco> Oh yeah I've tried the alternate install CDs aswell
[01:41] <tuxwulf> Yes... if it can boot from CDROM, then it suggests your BIOS and stuff is ok, then the problem has to be the LiveCDs
[01:42] <Azzco> Well since it displays ISOLINUX Debian 3.36 2007-03-08 I guess it can boot from CDs
[01:43] <tuxwulf> .. I agree
[01:43] <MementoMori> #linux-sensors
[01:44] <keekee> ha, people in the gentoo irc are badmouthing ubuntu
[01:44] <tuxwulf> Perhaps you can try a different LiveCD. Is your syste of  unusual hardware ?
[01:44] <Azzco> tuxwulf: The thing is though... after upgrading to gutsy my CD isn't detected in ubuntu either... so I can't watch DVDs or anything anymore
[01:45] <tuxwulf> ... oh.. Mmm.... I have an idea about that but it is a bit too wild....
[01:48] <hagabaka> is beryl more "gone" than compiz?
[01:49] <posingaspopular> Jucato: good news
[01:49] <Jucato> yo posingaspopular!
[01:49] <posingaspopular> i got jumped on my way home by these kids trying to get my money/ipod
[01:50] <posingaspopular> it was awesome.
[01:50] <posingaspopular> halloween is the best
[01:50] <Jucato> O.o
[01:50] <coreymon77> ...
[01:51] <coreymon77> posingaspopular: apparently me and you have different opinions on what counts as awesome
[01:51] <Jucato> and apparently, sarcasm is lost in transmission over the internet :)
[01:52] <coreymon77> Jucato: not really, im just in school english paper mode
[01:52] <coreymon77> Jucato: so that stuff doesnt work on me atm
[01:53] <coreymon77> Jucato: :P
[01:54] <Jucato> :)
[01:54] <tuxwulf> bbl
[01:55] <ardchoille> hagabaka: fwiu, beryl and compiz merged and the product is compiz-fusion
[01:56] <posingaspopular> yea it was awesome
[01:56] <posingaspopular> haters try to take my stuff and can't handle
[01:57] <pagan0ne> hey, anyone here have expirence with running gutsy off a usb pen drive?
[01:58] <Angelus> is there some kbfx guide?
[01:58] <funcrush> When I turn off my system in KDE, what command is run?
[01:59] <funcrush> I can't boot my pc after turn off my system in kubuntu
[01:59] <funcrush> at once
[02:02] <shinda> was wondering I got a fresh install, and was trying to load up vlc player, but it keeps giving a wxWidgets error, I tried grabbing a bunch of the gtk libraries and installing those, then even tried compiling wxWidgets from source and installing that but still getting the same error anyone else experience this?
[02:03] <NickPresta> shinda, which error, specifically?
[02:04] <shinda> NickPresta -> " skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found (hint: compile the wxWidgets plugin, and make sure it is loaded properly)"
[02:04] <aztyx> how do i update steam with wine? its a commando i think
[02:04] <shinda> Then when I try to click the open button I get -> skins2 interface error: no suitable dialogs provider found followed by the same
[02:05] <NickPresta> shinda, do this in a Konsole: vlc -v --reset-config --reset-plugins-cache -l | grep wx
[02:06] <funcrush> After turn off my system in kubuntu(kde), my pc can't boot up at once, should push the power button repeatly How can I resolve this? somebody help me plz
[02:06] <NickPresta> shinda, that will probably tell you about unresolved symbols, which should shed some light on this problem
[02:06] <aztyx> GAAH Im thinking of go back to windows. sadly
[02:06] <dasKreech> funcrush: can You give some more info?
[02:06] <funcrush> dasKreech: Sorry my english is bad T-T
[02:06] <shinda> hmmm, missing a wxWidgets interface module, and dialogs provider
[02:06] <LjL> aztyx: if your primary use case is Windows games, that's probably a good option
[02:06] <dasKreech> aztyx: you should just update it normally i think
[02:06] <dasKreech> funcrush: Which language ?
[02:07] <aztyx> no it stops a 26%
[02:07] <funcrush> dasKreech :  Korean...
[02:07] <shinda> by any chance would you know what they'd be called in the repos?
[02:07] <aztyx> LjL: what do you mean?
[02:07] <dasKreech> !kr
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <dasKreech> damn :-)
[02:07] <funcrush> dasKreech: k
[02:07] <aztyx> is somebody in here playing cs 1.6 in kubuntu? wondering if its laggy
[02:08] <LjL> aztyx: uhm, you seemed to be frustrated with WINE in relation to gaming software.
[02:08] <NickPresta> aztyx, it's frame rate is similar, if not identical to Windows
[02:08] <funcrush> dasKreech: There is no problem in turn off my system in window XP
[02:08] <aztyx> ok
[02:08] <NickPresta> shinda, both VLC and wxwidgets were installed from the repos, correct?
[02:08] <dasKreech> funcrush: right. What happens in Kubuntu?
[02:08] <aztyx> LjL: yes. but i dont want to get virus. all i need is 1.6 ventrilo and no more
[02:08] <aztyx> exept some music
[02:09] <funcrush> dasKreech: when I turn off in kubuntu and then, I push the power button on my PC,
[02:09] <aztyx> so thats better cuse other i will install some un-usefull program. that i wont use
[02:09] <aztyx> i know it
[02:09] <dasKreech> funcrush: to turn it back on?
[02:09] <funcrush> dasKreech: monitor says, there is no signal
[02:09] <funcrush> dasKreech: what u mean? (my english is so bad)
[02:10] <shinda> well VLC was, and I did install the wxwidgets lib also, but after since I was still getting the errors I tried installing it form source also
[02:10] <dasKreech> funcrush: you press the power button to turn the computer back on?
[02:10] <shinda> NIckPresta, but vlc was downloaded and installed from the repo's with apt-get
[02:10] <dasKreech> after it turns off?
[02:11] <funcrush> dasKreech: hm.. I turn off my system and sleep.. and next day I push the button to use my pc
[02:11] <NickPresta> shinda, well, VLC works here from the repos (VLC also grabbed various wxwidgets packages) so i don't know what to tell you other than uninstall VLC, uninstall your source build of wxWidgets and try to install VLC again
[02:11] <funcrush> dasKreech: and then, monitor says, there is no signal. So I turn off my pc again and push the button
[02:12] <dasKreech> funcrush: ok cool then what?
[02:12] <funcrush> dasKreech: I should turn off and on one more to use my pc
[02:12] <pagan0ne> so, has anyone had any expirence running gutsy off a pendrive?
[02:13] <dasKreech> funcrush: ok What videocard do you have?
[02:13] <funcrush> dasKreech: Geforce 7300 gt
[02:13] <dasKreech> Ok
[02:13] <dasKreech>  hold on
[02:13] <funcrush> dasKreech: yup thank you very much
[02:14] <tekteen> anyone know how to install kubuntu on kubuntu with qemu?
[02:14] <pagan0ne> ill take that as a no... well does anyone know how to get nvidia drivers installed onto a pen drive, and for the system to auto detect which driver would be best for the system its running on?
[02:15] <sunny_> Hi
[02:16] <sunny_> I have install kde4, but not startmenu, why?
[02:17] <sunny_> No startmenu in kde4?
[02:19] <dasKreech> funcrush: Just in ase there is a #ubuntu-ko
[02:19] <pagan0ne> so no-one here has any expirence running gutsy off a usb pen drive? let alone trying to get nvidia drivers up and running?
[02:19] <funcrush> dasKreech: well thx for helping
[02:19] <funcrush> dasKreech: I'll try to there
[02:22] <dasKreech> funcrush: Just asking have you ever waited to see if it boots after a little bit?
[02:31] <funcrush> dasKreech: well sorry I feel my english is so bad I'll search more info in web
[02:31] <dasKreech> funcrush: how long did you wait before pressing the power button
[02:31] <dasKreech> when you got the no signal message?
[02:32] <funcrush> dasKreech: 1 minute or a night(I mean sleep)
[02:33] <dasKreech> funcrush: ok then you get the no signal message?
[02:33] <dasKreech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/105102
[02:33] <dasKreech> That might help
[02:34] <funcrush> dasKreech:well, the fan of power supply is work, but the monitor says there is no signal and
[02:34] <funcrush> dasKreech:the LEDs on Keyboard has no light
[02:34] <dasKreech> funcrush: did you wait after it said no signal?
[02:34] <dasKreech> Ah
[02:34] <dasKreech> and when you press caps no LED turns on?
[02:35] <funcrush> dasKreech: yes
[02:35] <dasKreech> ok
[02:35] <dasKreech> :-(
[02:35] <dasKreech> Hmm
[02:35] <dasKreech> funcrush: I don't know if it will help
[02:35] <dasKreech> But next time logout first then shutdown
[02:35] <funcrush> yup
[02:35] <dasKreech> See if that makes a difference
[02:35] <funcrush> hm.. yup
[02:36] <funcrush> dasKreech: ok, I see. I'll try it
[02:36] <funcrush> dasKreech: thank you for helping
[02:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[02:36] <dasKreech> Sure
[02:37] <CPrgmSwR2> Is beta4 of kde4 being worked on
[02:37] <funcrush> :)
[02:37] <dasKreech> hey CPrgmSwR2
[02:37] <dasKreech> Si
[02:37] <CPrgmSwR2> hey
[02:37] <kubuntut> hi! how to install network printer?
[02:37] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: #kubuntu-devel :)
[02:38] <kubuntut> hey Jucato good morning...
[02:39] <Jucato> morning!
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: is it on windows, linux or standalone?
[02:40] <kubuntut> windows network attached to other machine
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: is samba working?
[02:41] <kubuntut> i think cause i can see/browse other pc machine
[02:41] <kubuntut> just the shared printer i can't see
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: ok, did you run the new printer wizard?
[02:43] <kubuntut> yes i did
[02:44] <kubuntut> tried to use the scan thingy but doesn't work :)
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: and you seletced the windows printer option?
[02:44] <taylan> hi all I am using kmldonkey but I can not fint my downloaded files.
[02:44] <kubuntut> almost all option :)
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: try running it as root
[02:44] <kubuntut> change the   parameters
[02:45] <kubuntut> i did also in root :)
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: I don't know exactly how smaba works or any of that stuff
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> !printers
[02:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:45] <kubuntut> maybe i will try again cause i update
[02:45] <kubuntut> but why in ubuntu is as easy as pie in adding network printer?  :)
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> kubuntut: cause most of the development is focused that way, Kubuntu is ALMOST and afterthought it seems sometimes
[02:47] <kubuntut> "error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCES_DENIED"
[02:47] <nite613__> My laptop is crashing coming out of resume; not every time, but about half the time. I've tried the usual stuff with blacklisting (and whitelisting) the NIC module in the acpi config, but that doesn't seem to affect it.
[02:47] <nite613__> Is there a decent way I can tell what module is causing the hang?
[02:48] <kubuntut> thats the error when i tried to access the machine whose printer attached
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> nite613__: video card probably
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> nite613__: do you have an ATI?
[02:48] <nite613__> nosrednaekim: nvidia using the restricted glx driver
[02:48] <kubuntut> maybe i will go back to Ubuntu :)
[02:49] <nite613__> Dometiems works, sometimes gives black screen, sometimes gives black screen with cursor in top left
[02:49] <kubuntut> can i dpkg this KDM?
[02:49] <nite613__> I haven't confirmed that the machine is inaccesible from network in each scenario....
[02:49] <kubuntut> since i installed kubuntu and added the gdm
[02:49] <dasKreech> kubuntut: You want to install kdm ?
[02:49] <SteveR> hello all
[02:49] <kubuntut> no...
[02:50] <kubuntut> i have this kubuntu and install the gdm...
[02:50] <kubuntut> can i uninstall kdm?
[02:50] <dasKreech> sure
[02:51] <kubuntut> okay lemme try that :)
[02:51] <kubuntut> brb
[02:51] <SteveR> I wonder if someone could help me with a wireless problem
[02:51] <nite613__> SteveR: Maybe
[02:51] <SteveR> thx nite613
[02:52] <nite613__> !ask
[02:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <dasKreech> !wifi
[02:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <SteveR> I've read wirelss docs, and still can't get it going
[02:53] <dgtl___> I'm attempting to tunnel X through a 2 leg ssh connection. but I'm having problems with it. I wrote out everything out in the following pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42881/
[02:53] <nite613__> Start by telling us your problem and asking a question
[02:53] <SteveR> how can I tell if wpa supplicant is working
[02:53] <nite613__> wpa_cli
[02:54] <SteveR> type that into the console?
[02:54] <nite613__> Start with `man wpa_cli`
[02:54] <SteveR> ok
[02:56] <SteveR> nite613 okay so I've got an encyclopedia about wpa
[02:56] <nite613__> " Start by telling us your problem"
[02:57] <SteveR> My problem is that when I enter all of the required parameters into network administrator, I can't connect
[02:58] <SteveR> Example:
[02:58] <SteveR> I enter then essid
[02:58] <SteveR> I enter password type  as wpa personal
[02:58] <aaron_> so was gaim magically replaced with pidgin in 7.10?
[02:58] <SteveR> I enter the net password
[02:58] <nite613__> "netowrk administrator"?
[02:59] <SteveR> sorry network settings
[02:59] <Jucato> aaron_: yes. though nothing magic about it
[02:59] <SteveR> by the way (this is ub 7.10)
[02:59] <dasKreech> aaron_: magically?
[02:59] <aaron_> if you type gaim in console it runs pidgin, I call that "magic" even though I understand what its
[02:59] <aaron_> :p
[03:00] <aaron_> and, it maintained your account settings, also "magic"
[03:00] <nite613__> SteveR: Do you know the correct module for your card and if it is loaded?
[03:00] <dasKreech> aaron_: man:/magic :)
[03:00] <SteveR> nite613 not sure, but I believe that when I did te network troubleshooting process that it was working
[03:01] <Jucato> aaron_: pidgin, after all, it the next version of gaim. so naturally it would use gaim's accounts and settings. those would be carried over. and gaim is linked to pidgin for the transition :)
[03:01] <nite613__> SteveR: I'm not familiar with that process. Can you type ifconfig <interfacename> and see the card?
[03:01] <SteveR> ok will try
[03:01] <aaron_> oh, pidgin is a version of gaim?
[03:01] <aaron_> I didn't know that
[03:02] <dasKreech> aaron_: It is gaim
[03:02] <aaron_> right
[03:02] <aaron_> did not know that
[03:02] <SteveR> nite613 it shows teo ath0s one ath0 and one ath0:avah
[03:03] <SteveR> both hardware addresses 00 0D 88 94 aa c9
[03:04] <SteveR> both up
[03:04] <SteveR> correction "two ath0s
[03:05] <corporeal> happy halloween all
[03:05] <aaron_> grdesktop is pretty slick
[03:06] <SteveR> nite613 short answer, yes, I see it and it is up
[03:10] <SteveR> nite613__ still there?
[03:10] <nite613__> SteveR: At that point I'd usually try to get the card associated manuall via iwconfig.
[03:10] <nite613__> TBH I have no idea how the default "network settings" dialog actually deals with setting up the card. I've always used manual scripts in the past and NetworkManager (since using kubuntu)
[03:11] <nite613__> I would suggest checking /var/log/debug to see if there is info about what stage it gets to successfuly
[03:11] <SteveR> nite613__ I see Essid is "" and no WPA line
[03:12] <nite613__> iwconfig ath0 essid <blah> key <haha>
[03:12] <andresj> I recently upgraded to kubuntu gutsy, and now kvm is not working (it opens, but then it just hangs up the machine). I am using the linux-rt kernel, which might be the problem (but I used this kernel--well actually, I used the lowlatency one--with kubuntu feisty and it worked well). Any suggestions as to what I should do?
[03:13] <SteveR> ok will try
[03:19] <kubuntut> what is the equivalent of peachtree in linux
[03:20] <aBadNick> if I want to update boost and qt, what command should I run?
[03:24] <mrukus> umm hi
[03:24] <mrukus> im really new to kubuntu and am having issues with some commands
[03:25] <mayeco> kubuntut: nothing
[03:25] <mayeco> but try gnucash
[03:25] <kubuntut> mayeco: thanks...
[03:25] <posingaspopular> mrukus: which commands?
[03:26] <mrukus> umm an echo command
[03:26] <mrukus> im trying to set the acer_acpi
[03:26] <mayeco> kubuntut: np, www.gnucash.org
[03:26] <mrukus> and i was following a thread
[03:26] <mrukus> and it gave this command
[03:26] <mrukus> echo "enabled: 1">/proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[03:26] <mrukus> and i get this error
[03:27] <mrukus> bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[03:29] <Bonster> any good program to hide porn with?
[03:29] <ardchoille> mrukus: You can't do redirection like that
[03:30] <ardchoille> mrukus:  echo "enabled: 1" | sudo tee -a /proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[03:30] <mrukus> how do i do what that line is trying to do then, i have no clue. im just following what teh thread said to do in order to get my wireless working
[03:30] <hydrogen> Bonster: mv.
[03:30] <mrukus> enter that command?
[03:30] <Bonster> what is that
[03:30] <ardchoille> mrukus: That thread didn't take into account folks who use sudo instead of logging in as root
[03:31] <ardchoille> mrukus: That is the proper way to perform that command using sudo
[03:31] <pagan0ne> wheres the best place to go to get help with compiz-fusion?
[03:31] <ardchoille> #compiz-fusion
[03:32] <alexbobp> I tried to shrink my Linux partition, and the partitioner (Partition Commander, I think) crashed.  Now I have the full partition intact, but with the partition table showing the last 10 gigabytes as empty space, so it won't boot.  Is there a tool that can fix the partition table without further editing partitions?  I'm on an Ubuntu liveCD right now.
[03:32] <dasKreech> !info kmymoney2
[03:32] <ubotu> kmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-2 (gutsy), package size 7078 kB, installed size 14424 kB
[03:33] <dasKreech> alexbobp: try gparted
[03:33] <mrukus> now i get this error msg tee: /proc/acpi/acer/wireless: Invalid argument
[03:33] <posingaspopular> i dont think ive used echo before, sorry
[03:33] <alexbobp> gparted can resize partitions, but right now I need to change the partition table without touching partitions.
[03:33] <ardchoille> mrukus: Are you sure that is a file which you can actually write to?
[03:33] <mrukus> from what i have gathered, that command is trying to put that text line, in the file /proc/acpi/wireless
[03:34] <alexbobp> gparted says something like "can't mess with this partition because it's superblock says it's [large number] size but it's actually [smaller number] size", which pretty much agrees with what I think happened
[03:34] <mrukus> but i can't do it no matter what ive tried
[03:34] <ardchoille> mrukus:  Tell me what this command returns:  file /proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[03:34] <topface> how do I update boost?
[03:35] <ardchoille> mrukus: I'm betting yu can't actually write to that file
[03:35] <kubuntut> hi i'm using kopete and here at kubuntu... how can i join other channel?.... /j #channel/s
[03:35] <ardchoille> topface: sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:35] <topface> thank you
[03:35] <ardchoille> kubuntut: /join #channel   (where channel is the channel name)
[03:36] <mrukus>   /proc/acpi/acer/wireless: empty
[03:36] <kubuntut> /jjoin #ubuntu-ph
[03:36] <mrukus> thats what i get, had to put the space in there, sry
[03:36] <ardchoille> mrukus: I don't think you can write to files in /proc/*
[03:36] <ardchoille> But, I may be wrong.
[03:37] <ardchoille> !wifi | mrukus
[03:37] <ubotu> mrukus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <mrukus> ive been there too
[03:37] <ardchoille> ok
[03:37] <mrukus> and on the forums doing what the threads tell me to do, and i always run into garbage like this
[03:38] <blackwaltz> hmm, this is a new development :D I'm getting 3.0MB/s over a Wireless-G connection ... with sftp no less.
[03:38] <kubuntut> how to use this compiz-fusion?
[03:38] <ardchoille> kubuntut: /join  #compiz-fusion
[03:39] <kubuntut> just tell me how.. i can't see here :)  i installed compiz setting already
[03:40] <kubuntut> its in the system setting?
[03:40] <ardchoille> !compiz | kubuntut
[03:40] <ubotu> kubuntut: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:41] <kubuntut> thanks
[03:41] <dgtl___> i get a the following error when I try and run xterm on a remote server (with x being tunneled through SSH): "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0" anyone have any ideas?
[03:43] <mrukus> is there a wireless/networking/hardware/laptop channel that i can try
[03:43] <kubuntut> why i cant close this "adept notifier"?
[03:44] <pagan0ne> does anyone know how to install binary nvidia drivers onto a pen drive install of Gutsy?
[03:46] <ardchoille> mrukus: I would recommend trying the forums
[03:46] <MasterShrek> how come k3b doesnt want to burn mp3s to a cd, it wants me to use wavs
[03:46] <mrukus> just a general questions, does it matter if my wireless device is listed as an ethernet controller or is that normal
[03:47] <mrukus> it recognizes the type of chip it is
[03:47] <mrukus> but it lists it as an ehternet controller along with my real one
[03:47] <mrukus> the real one is realtek the wireless is artheos, both are listed as ethernet controllers
[03:47] <mrukus> under the comand lspci
[03:48] <sir_joshimus_> how do you play an "rm" file
[03:49] <sir_joshimus_> real movie
[03:49] <dpoole> does anybody know this problem i upgraded from kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 and now i have no sound what could be the problem..or how to fix it?
[03:49] <sir_joshimus_> for real player
[03:49] <pagan0ne> does anyone here have any expirence with nvidia drivers and a usb pen drive install of Gutsy?
[03:49] <mrukus> dpoole what computer is it on
[03:49] <MasterShrek> nvm, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[03:50] <MasterShrek> sir_joshimus_, check out medibuntu.org
[03:50] <dasKreech> !real | sir_joshimus_
[03:50] <ubotu> sir_joshimus_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:50] <dpoole> its on a toshiba satellite
[03:51] <dpoole> the 6.04 version still has sound when i boot in that version
[03:51] <mrukus> try to access the surround channel in the mixer
[03:52] <mrukus> and unmute that
[03:52] <mrukus> i had the same problem
[03:52] <mrukus> in my search i remeber hearing about that notebook as well
[03:53] <dpoole> how do i access the surround channel i don't see it on there
[03:53] <mrukus> it was a tuffy for me to find as well
[03:53] <mrukus> did you try right clicking on the speaker
[03:53] <mrukus> icon in the tray
[03:53] <mrukus> or just open up kmixer
[03:53] <dpoole> yes only says master channel
[03:54] <dpoole> i got it open don't see surround channel
[03:55] <mrukus> allright let me find a site for you that i used, after i entered the commands it allowed me to see the surround channel
[03:55] <dpoole> thanks
[03:56] <mrukus> http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/linux-on-the-acer-aspire-5050/
[03:56] <mrukus> and the best part about that, if it doesn't work, you can just delete the file
[03:56] <mrukus> hope that works for ya
[03:57] <dpoole> i don't know much about linux i don't know how to do all of that stuff
[03:59] <mrukus> allright its not that hard
[03:59] <mrukus> are you using kubuntu or gnome
[04:00] <dpoole> i'm using kubuntu
[04:00] <mrukus> great, so am i
[04:00] <mrukus> now open up your storage devices
[04:00] <Angelus> guys
[04:00] <Angelus> how can i associate the mms:// with a program???
[04:01] <mrukus> sry i mean storage media
[04:01] <dpoole> they are open
[04:01] <mrukus> go to the partition that has linux on it
[04:01] <dpoole> k
[04:01] <mrukus> now there should be a folder called etc
[04:01] <mrukus> is there one
[04:02] <dpoole> i don't see one
[04:02] <mrukus> on the right hand side, under your bookmarks, is there a root folder
[04:04] <dpoole> no
[04:04] <mrukus> are you sure your on teh right partition
[04:04] <kubuntunewbie> is this the official kubuntu irc channel?
[04:04] <mrukus> the one where linux is installed
[04:05] <dasKreech> kubuntunewbie: yes
[04:05] <dpoole> i have one for windows and the other one doesn't really have the installed linux show i just upgrade to 7.10
[04:05] <kubuntunewbie> can anyone recomend a good PCI wireless card for a 1999 compaq p3
[04:06] <dpoole> or is there a way to configure the sound system the same as my 6.10
[04:06] <mrukus> im way too new to linux to remember 6.10
[04:07] <mrukus> if you know how to do that, try it
[04:07] <mrukus> it might work
[04:07] <dasKreech> kubuntunewbie: you can try in #hardware as well
[04:07] <dpoole> how do i upgrade to 7.10 in my 704.
[04:08] <dasKreech> !upgrade
[04:08] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:08] <mrukus> does anybody know what the terminal commands would be to create that file
[04:09] <mrukus> would mkdir file /etc/modprobe.d/sound work?
[04:09] <ardchoille> no
[04:09] <ardchoille> mkdir only makes a directory, "touch" makes a file.
[04:09] <ardchoille> touch /path/file
[04:10] <hydrogen> or you can just start editing it
[04:10] <hydrogen> and save it
[04:10] <ardchoille> yes
[04:10] <mrukus> ohh with like kedit
[04:11] <mrukus> and just save it as  /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[04:11] <ardchoille> you can use kedit, but you'll need to use kdesu
[04:11] <ardchoille> kdesu kedit
[04:11] <mrukus> that lets you write to files with permissions right?
[04:12] <hydrogen> err
[04:12] <mrukus> "super user"
[04:12] <posingaspopular> can't you sudo nano the file too?
[04:12] <hydrogen> you can if you want
[04:12] <ardchoille> mrukus: right
[04:12] <hydrogen> but
[04:12] <mrukus> im learning this stuff, its really cool
[04:12] <hydrogen> also kate is a nicer editor than kedit
[04:12] <hydrogen> imo
[04:12] <ardchoille> Yes, kate is much better
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> I like mc and mcedit :)
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> but im old-skool
[04:13] <hydrogen> I hold out for ed myself
[04:13] <hydrogen> but i'm oldestschool
[04:13] <mrukus> hahahahahaha
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> hydrogen:  i rember ircing on a Greenbar printing terminal....
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> If you know what a greenbar printer - then ya know  how old that is. :)
[04:13] <mrukus> ummm, i can remeber windows 98
[04:13] <mrukus> talk about oldschool
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Phhht! kids....  Stay off my lawn!
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:14] <mrukus> hahahahahaha
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> and pull your pants up!
[04:14] <mrukus> good stuff man
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Bring back the Poodle Skirts!
[04:14]  * Dr_Willis is not THAT old.
[04:14] <ardchoille> now *that* is old school
[04:15] <mrukus> allright im off to try and fix this wireless, ill be around though if you guys don't mind
[04:19] <kazuma_> hi, can anyone tell me where is the KDE theme?
[04:19] <kazuma_> i just installed a .kth theme
[04:19] <kazuma_> but i don't know how to use it
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> well ya got to learn how kde uses themes.. :)
[04:21] <kazuma_> =o
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> a theme is composed of 'parts' such as the window decoration, the widgets, the colors, and err icons.
[04:21] <kazuma_> can you explain it?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis>  a 'theme' file just defines what parts to use.
[04:21] <kazuma_> oh
[04:22] <kazuma_> cause
[04:22] <kazuma_> i used to have
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> a theme file   dosent really have the decor or other bits.
[04:22] <kazuma_> fedora
[04:22] <kazuma_> and there was something called
[04:22] <kazuma_> kde theme manager
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Theres a Theme factoid on the bot that details it. there ARE a great many  kde themes and parts NOT installed by default
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin-
[04:22] <ubotu> Found: kwin-style-crystal, kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator (and 4 others)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Theres like 10 themes in the package manager not installed by default
[04:23] <drarem> in konqueror, what are all those little key-looking icons in the 'status bar', there's a long row of them
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> And the theme control panel icon is under Appearance (i think)
[04:23] <ardchoille> kazuma_: System Settings > Appearance
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> I always 'add to panel' -> control Panel icon.  :)
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> or whatever its called
[04:23] <kazuma_> what is the function of it?
[04:23] <ardchoille> drarem: sounds like the "https" icon
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> it lets yoi get to the settings items easier
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> or course if you use Compiz, then the window decoration is controled by "emerald" :)
[04:24] <kazuma_> and why it's easier to have themes
[04:25] <kazuma_> in fedora ?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if its any harder or easier.
[04:25] <kazuma_> cuz
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> install the themes. run the appearance tool and select a theme.
[04:25] <kazuma_> i have a yellow package
[04:25] <kazuma_> and if i click it it says
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> They just packaged them differently I guess.
[04:25] <kazuma_> open with
[04:25] <kazuma_> theme manager
[04:25] <kazuma_> or something like that
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever downloading a .thm file itself.. since they dont do much by itself.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> i aint used fedora in ages. could be they just  got some file assoiucations set up.
[04:26]  * feffer ...be back later: Gone away for now.
[04:27] <ardchoille> kazuma_: That's a theme manager theme, as long as you have all the other components (wallpaper, icon theme, etc) it'll work
[04:28] <kazuma_> and how do i install theme manager?
[04:28] <ardchoille> you already have it
[04:28] <kazuma_> yeah?
[04:28] <ardchoille> kazuma_: System Settings > Appearance
[04:28] <ardchoille> last item in the list
[04:29] <kazuma_> gtk styles and fonts?
[04:29]  * Dr_Willis is not in kde.. so cant lead anyone around the menus...
[04:29] <ardchoille> kazuma_: No, sorry, I misread
[04:29] <ardchoille> hold on
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> of course it pays to explore the menus :)
[04:29] <kazuma_> thanks
[04:30] <ardchoille> This is why I hate System Settings
[04:30] <kazuma_> i'm really nwe here
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> I always add that Icon to the panel - its always the same layont then. :)
[04:30] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: fluxbox?
[04:30] <kazuma_> that's why i ask a lot of things sorry
[04:30] <ardchoille> kazuma_: open kcontrol: alt+f2, type in kcontrol
[04:30] <dasKreech> kazuma_: Welcome to Kubuntu!
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> dasKreech:  sshing to the linux box at the moment. :) and irssi
[04:30] <kazuma_> thanks
[04:30] <dasKreech> Dr_Willis: heehee
[04:30] <kazuma_> ready
[04:31] <kazuma_> a menu appears
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Trying out some Photo editing programs for the wife under windows.
[04:31] <ardchoille> kazuma_: In kocontrol, go to Appearance & Themes, you'll see the Theme Manager
[04:31] <kazuma_> woow
[04:31] <kazuma_> thanks ardchoille and thanks Dr_Willis
[04:31] <ardchoille> yw
[04:31] <ardchoille> kazuma_: Lots to explore there :)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> trying to find some idiot friendly program for the wife. she wants to be able to set one photo as the background 'faded' then select a 2nd picture  that goes on top of the background thats not faded. but smaller/in the corner. Like you see in the Photo taking places
[04:33] <bazhang> Fedora might have some prettier artwork out of the box. But Kubuntu is way easier to install themes, artwork, etc.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I can do it in the gimp.. but SHE cant handle that. :)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Yep Ubuntu could use a bit of work in that area . not that i really care for themes and stuff. :0
[04:33] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I was just about to say "use layers in the gimp", lol
[04:33] <sup3rw0p> Hi, I was wondering how to uninstall glx, or xgl. I tried to install it with compiz to get the neat effects, but my video card cant handle it.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:   she had a program that could do it (under windows) that was just drag, drop, slide teh slider. select teh overlay.. but i cant find the disks. :)
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> cant even rembe4r the name of the program
[04:34] <ardchoille> sup3rw0p: What video card?
[04:34] <sup3rw0p> lol, the onboard intel card
[04:34] <sup3rw0p> After I rebooted, even scrolling firefox is really laggy
[04:35] <bazhang> 945 Intel?
[04:35] <sup3rw0p> I'm not too sure...
[04:35] <ardchoille> sup3rw0p: Hmm.. not sure, I don't use onboard video
[04:35] <sunny_> kde4 no startmenu
[04:35] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Show her how powerful the gimp is and she may not go back to that other stuff :)
[04:35] <sup3rw0p> I was just wondering how to uninstall stuff so I can get rid of it.
[04:36] <ardchoille> sunny_: kde4 is barely usable atm
[04:36] <sunny_> and the panelbar to
[04:36] <ardchoille> sunny_: What did you expect from beta software?
[04:36] <bazhang> sup3rw0p: you want to get out of compiz, or just save disk space?
[04:37] <sup3rw0p> I got rid of compiz using the add/remove button, but I can't find glx in there.
[04:37] <sunny_> I want to try to use kde4, if it's good or not
[04:38] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know if Seveas has a Gutsy repository, yet? The Wiki doesn't say/
[04:38] <ardchoille> sunny_: It's not meant for daily use right now, it's still in testing phase
[04:39] <bazhang> no need for it
[04:39] <mrukus> im back, with a question on kubuntu
[04:39] <bazhang> seveas repo, that is
[04:39] <ardchoille> Kr4t05: From what I understand, the medibuntu repo has replaced Seveas in Gutsy
[04:39] <mrukus> i might have been trying to do way to much
[04:39] <hydrogen> kde4 can actually be used daily
[04:39] <hydrogen> its just not that enjoyable to use it
[04:39] <hydrogen> at this point
[04:39] <mrukus> stracth my right ear with my left hand
[04:39] <mrukus> how can i get to teh restricted drivers area of kubuntu
[04:40] <ardchoille> mrukus: You might need sudo for that, lol
[04:40] <mrukus> hahahahahahaha
[04:40] <Dave__> what are the requirements for kubuntu?
[04:40] <hydrogen> run restricted-manager-kde
[04:41] <bazhang> Dave__: in terms of ram? cpu?
[04:41] <Dave__> both
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> rather minimal :)
[04:42] <bazhang> ram --512MB can do it, but oneGB is better, CPU--that's a bit sketchier--perhaps 1Ghz plus
[04:42] <ardchoille> iirc, 192Mb ram for the livecd
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> ive ran on less then 512mb and under 1 ghz.. but xfce may be better for anything loser.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> lower
[04:43] <bazhang> :}
[04:43] <ardchoille> Dave__: If it's an older machine, you might look into running a window manager like fluxbox instead of a full desktop
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> it MAY be easier to just tell us the system specs. :)
[04:43] <Kr4t05> ardchoille: Eh... Medibuntu was awful slow last time I used it.
[04:44] <se7en^Of^9> strange no upgrades since one week ???
[04:44] <mrukus> darn...well, at least its not somethign stupid
[04:44] <ardchoille> Kr4t05: Try it again, I've noticed it being faster recently
[04:44] <Dave__> i have a 600 meg p-3, will it work on that?
[04:45] <bazhang> Dave__: with enough ram it should do
[04:45] <ardchoille> Dave__: I have an old PIII and fluxbox runs great on it
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Dave__:  it should.. but dont expect it to be a powerhouse. :)
[04:45] <bazhang> might be a bit laggy though
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> ive ran on Less.
[04:45] <mrukus> is ndis wrapper worth it?
[04:45] <Dave__> cool, thanks everyone
[04:45] <sunny_> I known, Just curiosity
[04:45] <bazhang> as a fish wrapper, yes.
[04:45] <mrukus> its coming on a week with no wireless, when i go to work this weekend i will be without internet for a few days
[04:46] <mrukus> what are my alternatives
[04:46] <bazhang> mrukus: which wireless card?
[04:46] <Dave__> im just having problems booting the live cd
[04:46] <mrukus> atheros AR5006EG
[04:46] <mrukus> theres so many threads about it, its gives people alot of problems
[04:46] <mrukus> but none work
[04:46] <bazhang> mad-wifi-tools installed?
[04:47] <mrukus> how can i check that
[04:47] <mrukus> does it come by default with gutsy
[04:47] <mrukus> ?
[04:47] <ardchoille> Dave__: the Alternate cd is a text-based installer (no livecd) and it can run better on an old machine
[04:47] <Kr4t05> ubotu: medibuntu > me
[04:47] <bazhang> or perhaps restricted drivers for non-free atheros
[04:47] <Dave__> ardchoille, ok thanks
[04:47] <mrukus> i have the driver enabled that is provided, it does say that there is no free driver avalable
[04:48] <mrukus> so i disable it?
[04:48] <bazhang> is it the restricted one?
[04:48] <ardchoille> Dave__: I know that fluxbox and windowmaker (both are window managers) are nice and fast, and they are in the repos
[04:48] <mrukus> yes, i enabled my ati driver as well
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> icewm and jwm are also nice and fast. :)
[04:49] <Dave__> ardchoille, what are those?
[04:49] <ardchoille> Dave__: Window managers
[04:49] <Dave__> what are window managers?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> the program that does the actual management of all windows. :)
[04:50] <ardchoille> Dave__:  http://fluxbox.org/  and  http://windowmaker.info/
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> linux is all about 'layers and legos' :)
[04:50] <Dave__> ok thanks
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> blocks of programs that form the layers of the os.
[04:51] <ardchoille> Dave__: KDE is a full DE (desktop environment) and uses kwin as the window manager. you can use a good window manager in place of a DE
[04:51] <draik> Is there an app to convert a DVD for PSP format?
[04:51] <Dave__> im not that advanced
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> avidumz can do that I belive
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> !find avid
[04:52] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> !find avidmu
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> I never an spell its name right
[04:52] <ubotu> Package/file avidmu does not exist in gutsy
[04:52] <ubuntu__> ccc
[04:52] <ardchoille> avidemux
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i think i hit the fabled Ballmer Peak today...
[04:52] <bazhang> haha
[04:53] <mrukus> one last thing i swear, how can i back up my settings now so i can revert back to my present setting if i screw something up
[04:53] <Dave__> il just try the alternate cd
[04:53] <mrukus> can i make like a backup dvd or somethign to restore my system to its present condition
[04:53] <Daisuke_Ido> for two weeks i've been sitting down almost daily at my laptop, opening jbuilder, and false-starting on this project for class
[04:53] <ubuntu__> anyone can give me a serial and authorization key for autocad 2007
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> personal settings are in /home/username - just backup that dir to cd/dvd
[04:53] <ardchoille> mrukus: You can burn your home directory to a cd/dvd
[04:54] <Daisuke_Ido> today, i sat down, fired it up, and i had the entire base of the game done in two hours
[04:54] <ardchoille> ubuntu__ Don't bother asking that kind of thing in here
[04:54] <bazhang> efnet
[04:55] <bazhang> is it permissible to mention the name of Ubuntu-based distros here?
[04:56] <draik> ardchoille: You mean I can't ask how to hack the Gibson in this channel?
[04:56] <ardchoille> draik: lol
[04:56] <ardchoille> draik: hacking is one thing, but what he asked was outright piracy
[04:57] <Jucato> bazhang: perfectly permissible to just mention it. of course don't expect to be able to get full support :)
[04:57] <draik> ardchoille: I also cannot install avidemux. Here is the error message............ avidemux: Depends: libfaad2-0 (>= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp) but it is not going to be installed
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> and offtopic! :)
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: bring me the head of matthew lillard on a stick!
[04:57] <bazhang> thanks Jucato
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !info libfadd
[04:57] <ubotu> Package libfadd does not exist in gutsy
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !info libfadd2
[04:57] <ubotu> Package libfadd2 does not exist in gutsy
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !find libfad
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> info libfaad2
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !info libfaad2
[04:57] <ubotu> Package/file libfad does not exist in gutsy
[04:57] <ubotu> Package libfaad2 does not exist in gutsy
[04:57]  * Dr_Willis cleans his glasses
[04:57] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !find libfaa
[04:57] <Daisuke_Ido> !info libfaad2-0
[04:57] <ubotu> Found: libfaac-dev, libfaac0, libfaad2-0, libfaad2-dev
[04:57] <ubotu> libfaad2-0: freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 197 kB, installed size 396 kB
[04:58] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: I love that movie. I know it's false, but it was just interesting for what it was at its time
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Be sure Multivers is enabled.
[04:58]  * Jucato teaches Daisuke_Ido the !find trigger
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !info  avidemux
[04:58] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[04:58]  * posingaspopular teaches Daisuke_Ido the !jucato trigger
[04:58] <ardchoille> libfaad2-0 is in multiverse
[04:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: i knew i was soooo close :)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> apt-get update, upgrade, and try again
[04:58] <Jucato> posingaspopular: SEGFAULT
[04:59] <draik> I'm not Gutsy. I'm Feisty.
[04:59] <posingaspopular> omg where?
[04:59]  * draik waves at Jucato
[04:59] <Jucato> draik!!!!!!! long time no talk :D
[04:59] <ardchoille> !info libfaad2-0 feisty
[04:59] <draik> lol
[04:59] <ubotu> libfaad2-0: freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 193 kB, installed size 544 kB
[04:59] <Jucato> would you look at that? same version!
[04:59] <Cainen> Alright, I'm using a computer with multiple users.  How do I downsize someone else's user folder if they're not going to use it?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall that libfaad was not on one of the repos i was using.. had to change to another.
[05:00] <draik> It wants to remove ffmpeg libavcodeccvs51 libavformatcvs51 libfaad0
[05:00] <ardchoille> Well, if avidemux and libfaad2-0 are in the same repo, why is he getting that error?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Cainen:  you mean delete their stuff?
[05:00] <Cainen> no.
[05:00] <Cainen> They don't -have- stuff in their user folders.
[05:01] <draik> ardchoille: I don't want to remove ffmpeg
[05:01] <Cainen> they're taking up gigs of space that they don't use;.
[05:01] <draik> Alternative?
[05:01] <Jucato> Cainen: if they don't have files in their user folder, then they're not taking up space at all
[05:01] <Angelus> is there some tool to terminate unneeded processes in linux or to clear the memory?
[05:01] <Cainen> that's not what I mean <_>
[05:01] <ardchoille> draik: does libfaad2-0 provide the same functionality as ffmpeg?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Jucato:  :) i was wondering that also.
[05:01] <Cainen> see
[05:01]  * Jucato looks
[05:01] <anton_> Hello there, I'm trying to install Nvidia graphics card drivers for linux (I have Kubuntu 7.04), and I get a message saying that x-server is already running. What can I do to change this? I am a newbie at Linux.
[05:01] <Jucato> !nvidia | anton_
[05:01] <ubotu> anton_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <Jucato> just follow the guide for nvidia and kubuntu 7.04 ^^^^
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> anton_: first, you install them from the repo, not the .run you got from nvidia's website...
[05:02] <Kr4t05> ardchoille: Medibuntu is only giving me about 6kbps. :/
[05:02] <Jucato> Cainen: yes please do explain
[05:02] <Cainen> basically, I want to resize the alloted space so I can use it myself.
[05:02] <anton_> repo?
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> !repositories | anton_
[05:02] <ubotu> anton_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:02] <anton_> Thank you.
[05:02] <Jucato> Cainen: why? are the other users' home folder in a different partition from your own home folder?
[05:02] <ardchoille> Kr4t05: No idea why it's faster for me. Maybe a different country?
[05:03] <Cainen> No, and that's the problem.
[05:03] <Angelus> andresj:  K-menu , system settings, restricted drivers. switch to administrator mode and mark the nvidia driver, a window will open press enable, it will install the nvidia driver, when it finishes it will tell you it needs a computer restart, so reboot you're computer. :)
[05:03] <Cainen> It's cutting the space inbetween the users.
[05:03] <andresj> Angelus, I already got that.
[05:03] <Angelus> * anton_:   K-menu , system settings, restricted drivers. switch to administrator mode and mark the nvidia driver, a window will open press enable, it will install the nvidia driver, when it finishes it will tell you it needs a computer restart, so reboot you're computer. :)
[05:03] <Jucato> Cainen: what do you mean? all user folders are under /home, and /home is in a separate partition?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Cainen:  simple fix. is just make a directoy on the other partition, chown it to be owned by who you want to use it. then just link it to the Users home dir as /home/user/Otherstorage or similer
[05:03] <andresj> oh ok
[05:03] <Jucato> Angelus: there's no restricted manager in 7.04
[05:03] <Angelus> andresj: my bad, i mistaken the nick
[05:04] <andresj> Angelus, I thought you were answering my question from about 4 hours ago :)
[05:04] <Angelus> oh he's using 7.04
[05:04] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: you understood what he meant? good for you :/
[05:04] <Cainen> let me see.
[05:04] <Angelus> what was you're question andresj
[05:04] <anton_> Angelus: I can't find "restricted drivers"
[05:04] <Kr4t05> ardchoille: I'm USA Eastern, what about you?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> I have a user with storage dirs on 4 different hds :)
[05:04] <draik> For everyone here using Gutsy. How do you like it? Stable enough for novice users to use?
[05:04] <Jucato> Angelus: Linux is smart about memory management. the memory that apss don't use is used for disk cache. if more apps need more memory, it reallocates
[05:05] <andresj> what could I do to get kvm working, because now it doesn't work (I recently updated/replaced with gutsy)... I think it doesn't work because I'm using linux-rt kernel, but I'm not sure.
[05:05] <ardchoille> Kr4t05: Seattle. I don't know what to say then, medibuntu is good here
[05:05] <Kr4t05> That's strange.
[05:05] <Angelus> anton_:  you're running an outdated and unsupported version of kubuntu, download / upgrade to kubuntu gutsy
[05:05] <Jucato> Angelus: wrong
[05:05] <Angelus> why?
[05:05] <anton_> Mind giving me a link?
[05:05] <Jucato> Feisty is supported until 8.10
[05:05] <ardchoille> Angelus: It *is* supported
[05:05] <Cainen> draik: I haven't had issues with it that weren't caused by unsupported hardware.
[05:06] <Angelus> Jucato: aint the only version supported more then 6months kubuntu dapper?
[05:06]  * Dr_Willis will stick withy Gutsy
[05:06] <Jucato> all regular (non-LTS) releases are supported for 18 months
[05:06] <Angelus> and still, its a good idea to update
[05:06] <Jucato> Angelus: no.
[05:06] <Jucato> the lifespan is 18 months not 6 months
[05:06] <Jucato> the development cycle is the 6 months one
[05:06] <Angelus> anton_:  http://kubuntu.com , go to download, and download. :)
[05:06] <anton_> Sure, I'll update if anyone could give me a link with some info. I'm really new to this. :)
[05:06] <anton_> Aha.
[05:06] <Jucato> anton_: the guide for upgrading is in the channel topic
[05:07]  * Jucato doesn't recommend upgrading just to get the restricted devices manager
[05:07] <draik> Cainen: What isn't supported?
[05:07] <Jucato> it's not a necessity, only a convenience
[05:07]  * posingaspopular doesn't recommend upgrading via a GUI
[05:07] <Angelus> anton_: if you want the dvd version , download the torrent file and use a torrent client to download. if you want the cd version choose a link near you or a link of you're country
[05:07] <Angelus> Jucato: its still a good idead to upgrade but no?
[05:08] <Jucato> no. not always
[05:08] <Cainen> draik: My laptop's sound card chipset.
[05:08] <Cainen> Doesn't work with headphones.
[05:08]  * andresj agrees with posingaspopular
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> the...  chipset doesn't work with headphones
[05:08]  * andresj didn't have luck using adept updater to get gutsy
[05:08] <Cainen> same.
[05:08] <Cainen> Or synaptic
[05:08] <Cainen> Both crashed.  I just dist-upgraded.
[05:08] <Cainen> =/
[05:08] <Jucato> posingaspopular: unfortunately, only the GUI method upgrading to gutsy ensures that you get the correct packages before starting the upgrade
[05:09] <Jucato> (before and after)
[05:09] <Angelus> its a good idea to download the cd/dvd and format, thats the best way
[05:09] <ardchoille> I only upgraded once, it broke almost everyting.. I'll never do it again
[05:09] <Cainen> I upgraded from 6.06 to 7.10.
[05:09] <Cainen> Only encountered one bug, and it's not killing my comp.
[05:09] <Jucato> straight from 6.06 to 7.10?
[05:09] <Cainen> no
[05:09]  * ronin_ yawns and puts his candy down, opting for tea
[05:09] <ardchoille> Cainen: I hope you didn't skip releases
[05:09] <Cainen> from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 to 7.10 RC3
[05:10] <ardchoille> right
[05:10] <Jucato> oh ok. good
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ballsy
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that edgy > feisty upgrade was dicey at best
[05:10] <draik> With the upgrade to the new repos, what happens to the old ones? Medibuntu, Mintbox, Compiz/Beryl, etc?
[05:10] <draik> Why can't you skip on upgrades?
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> well, beryl no longer exists and isn't supported
[05:10] <Jucato> draik: the upgrade tool disables the 3rd party repos
[05:10] <mm_202> Im sure everyone asks this, but whats the url for the guide of how to upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04?
[05:10] <Jucato> and compiz-fusion is in the official repos already
[05:10] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz is in the main repos
[05:10] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[05:10] <Cainen> draik: because you need to upgrade step-by-step
[05:10] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:10] <draik> !upgrade
[05:11] <mm_202> ardchoille: danke
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> mm_202: it's in the topic, you just joined, it should be visible
[05:11] <Angelus> hmm
[05:11] <Jucato> draik: because it's not supported (skipping releases)
[05:11] <ronin_> Is anyone having ANY luck with OpenGL and the new ATI 8.43 driver perchance?
[05:11] <Angelus> an upgrade requires a computer reboot i bet?
[05:11] <draik> Angelus: Not true
[05:11] <Daisuke_Ido> Angelus: eventually, you're going to a new kernel...  if you want to take advantage of it, then yes
[05:11] <Angelus> well gutsy uses a different kernel
[05:12] <draik> What happens to all of my current apps?
[05:12] <anton_> "Could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application" <---What does this mean?
[05:12] <Jucato> you only need to reboot if you want to use the new kernel. you can keep on using the same kernel until you reboot
[05:12] <ardchoille> I have a feeling they'll solve that too someday (switching kernels without reboot)
[05:12] <Jucato> draik: they get updated
[05:12] <Jucato> ardchoille: most probably not...
[05:12] <Jucato> that's kinda technically impossible...
[05:12] <draik> What if there isn't an update/upgrade? Beryl for example.
[05:12] <Jucato> draik: they remain the same.
[05:12] <mm_202> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, sorry, read the last two lines, missed the first.
[05:13] <Angelus> i heared there is somekind of tool
[05:13] <Jucato> unless they somehow conflict w/ something in the official repos, in which case they might get removed.. not reallysure
[05:13] <Angelus> to switch kernels
[05:13] <Jucato> sure*
[05:13] <ardchoille> Jucato: so was getting to the moon at one time
[05:13] <Angelus> i forgot the name dought
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> i recall hearing about the switching kernels thing also.. but not sure how usefull that would be for a average user. :)
[05:14] <Jucato> ardchoille: maybe. but unless they figure out a way to take the floor from under you,without you falling... then I'd say it would be impossible at this point
[05:14] <Jucato> of course, I could be wrong (always)
[05:14] <ardchoille> ah
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> who knows what kernel 3.0 will be like. :)
[05:14] <Jucato> who know if 3.0 will ever happen at all?!?
[05:14] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: I read that there won't be a kernel 3.0
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> proberly has ESP modules you will load. and FemBot support.
[05:15]  * Jucato thinks he'll see 2.6.1000 before he dies...
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Linux3000
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:15] <ardchoille> lol @ FemBot support
[05:15] <Dr_Willis>  Plug and play support.......
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> Then Pay
[05:16] <Jucato> or Pray
[05:16] <ardchoille> I read an interview with Linus Torvalds and he said he didn't see the need for kernel 3.0
[05:16] <Angelus> why there won't be a 3.0 version?
[05:16] <Jucato> because the main man himself said so?
[05:16] <ronin_> There will only be incomplete FemBot support.  Limited resources for documentation in the community. However, NeckBeard Manager will automagically config itself perfectly every time
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> who knows what new cpu/hardware will be arund in 10 years.. :)
[05:16] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Good point
[05:16] <draik> Where is the CLI instructions for Feisty to Gutsy upgrade/
[05:16] <draik> ?
[05:16] <Jucato> none
[05:17] <bazhang> we'll be wearing hardware in ten years time
[05:17] <ardchoille> draik: It isn't recommended
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Quantum  computer chips, optical/holographic media...
[05:17] <Jucato> (because it's not recommended/completely supported)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> and i bet we STILL have lame Copy prtetion on games
[05:17] <draik> Dr_Willis: I'm still waiting on my flying car
[05:17] <Jucato> basically: if you insist on doing the command line upgrade, we presume you already know what you're doing :)
[05:17] <dsmith_> lol
[05:17] <ardchoille> lol
[05:18] <ardchoille> heh, I knew what I was doing and it still broke
[05:18] <draik> Jucato: You know me. What makes you think I have a clue?
[05:18] <Jucato> draik: that you're asking for command line upgrade instructions :)
[05:18] <Angelus> maybe finally i will see bioweapons walking in the street! people injected with T-virus and mutated
[05:18] <Angelus> mwahhahah
[05:19] <draik> Well, I guess I will upgrade my laptop right now
[05:19] <draik> GUI
[05:19] <Angelus> format it
[05:19] <Angelus> betta'
[05:20] <Angelus> ok
[05:20] <Angelus> closing all apps
[05:21] <Angelus> to switch to compiz
[05:21] <draik> What is that package that is required prior to upgrade?
[05:22] <ronin_> So no luck with OpenGL and the latest fglrx, anyone?
[05:22] <pagan0ne> anyone know why, in a fresh install of gutsy, kopete appears to not function, i enter all the info, and it wont connect to msn, yahoo, or aim... no error... not even attempthing to connect
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> ronin_:  i recall some people having a guide url in #ubuntu but i dident follow/read it
[05:24] <ronin_> Dr_Willis: Thanks.  I'll check it out.  It actually installed like a dream (Envy), but as I was warned earlier, OpenGL is flakey in this point release for some reason
[05:25] <bazhang> pagan0ne: not used kopete before, but gaim err pidgin works well here
[05:26] <MasterShrek> !envy
[05:26] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:26] <pagan0ne> bazhang: well i think its a problem with kwallet, as kwalletmanager wont let me create any new wallets, its asif the wallet subsystem is froze up
[05:27] <bazhang> pagan0ne: can you turn off the kwallet functionality?
[05:27] <pagan0ne> bazhang: i can but it doesnt fix the kopete problem, not sure if its actually turning off though
[05:27] <pagan0ne> MasterShrek: im not contecting ubotu, but in my expirence envy is a godsend, as the repo's still dont configure nvidia drivers properly straight out of the box....
[05:28] <ardchoille> pagan0ne: What's so hard about typing "sudo nvidia-xconfig" ?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> well im of the idea that using a script like envy is defeating the purpose of using linux at all, you arent actually learning how things are working
[05:29] <lnxkde> anyone knows when is the beta 4 going to be realesed for kubuntu?
[05:29] <ardchoille> MasterShrek: I agree
[05:29] <ardchoille> lnxkde: Not until at least 8.10
[05:29] <pagan0ne> ardchoille: the fact that it left my system (straight out of the 32bit gutsy install) with a broken x server
[05:29] <Jucato> lnxkde: sorry, but the most definite answer I can give now is "when they're ready"...
[05:30] <lnxkde> I am talking about KDE 4 beta4
[05:30] <Jucato> lnxkde: see my reply in the other room
[05:30] <ardchoille> lnxkde: See Jucato's previous post :)
[05:30] <lnxkde> thankx
[05:30] <lnxkde> Jucato:
[05:31] <lnxkde> btw: what is so ^*(&$%^*($%(# bad about asking !
[05:31] <ardchoille> pagan0ne: I've installed the nivida driver on 100+ machines, never had a problem doing from command line and it only takes 1 minute
[05:32] <pagan0ne> ardchoille: well it seems every version of kubuntu from edgy on has always managed to botch the xorg.conf file up on my system
[05:32] <pagan0ne> ardchoille: complete format, install fresh from dvd or cd, and then using that versions reccomended method has always resulted in a system (for me) where x would fail to start, however envy works every time
[05:34] <ardchoille> Funny how my 8 year old niece was able to install nvidia drivers without envy
[05:34] <MasterShrek> pagan0ne, thats why it doesnt work, because you dont know how to fix it because youve used envy all the time, i cant guarantee it but i would guess that after one kernel upgrade youll be left without x
[05:34] <bazhang> :}
[05:34] <pagan0ne> ardchoille: look im not trying to start a fight, ive gotten nvidia drivers up on many systems, but on THIS system, the one click method doesnt work at all
[05:35] <ardchoille> Seriously, my 8 year old niece uses Ubuntu, she loves it. If that's not a testament to how easy Ubuntu is, I don't know what is
[05:35] <MasterShrek> pagan0ne, what card is it may i ask?
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> how would i go about passing the output of a string of piped grep commands to wget as a url list?
[05:35] <pagan0ne> MasterShrek: been through a couple kernel upgrades, and it doesnt cause many issues, i do know how to install nvidia drivers even the binary blobs, however apt just doesnt do it right for me
[05:35] <pagan0ne> MasterShrek: its dual Nvidia 8800 GS's on PCI-E
[05:35] <MasterShrek> pagan0ne, i never use apt for my nvidia drivers, so i got no idea how they work
[05:36] <Cacher> Daisuke_ido:  in bash:    for url in `piped grep command` ; do wget $url ; done
[05:36] <pagan0ne> MasterShrek: well _usually_ it just does, however on this system, it leaves me with "no screens found" and it refuses to load the nvidia kernel module
[05:36] <pagan0ne> but thats not my problem right now
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: neat
[05:36] <ardchoille> pagan0ne: iirc, that's the current dirver.. easy to install
[05:37] <Cacher> pay attention to the ticks,  ` != '
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: that i know, ` delimits a command.  for instance, i already have /home/`whoami`/.kde/share/apps...  and so on
[05:38] <pagan0ne> ardchoille: it may be easy, but if it leaves me with a broken x on restart (when installed through apt) i wouldnt call it "easy"... fresh gutsy install, no extras, enable restricted drivers, and bam, on reboot x wont load
[05:38] <MasterShrek> but Daisuke_Ido ~/ is your home dir also, no matter where it resides
[05:38] <Cacher> yup
[05:38] <MasterShrek> :)
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> MasterShrek: i'm aware of that
[05:38] <MasterShrek> ok didint know :)
[05:38] <pagan0ne> anyway, thats completly irrelivent to the problem im having, and like i said im not trying to start a fight
[05:39] <pagan0ne> i just need help with kopete
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but this assumes you may not necessarily be looking in your own home dir :)
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[05:39] <Cacher> and ~/ will work after you change your home to something other than /home/username
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> that wouldn't work :D
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe i should just keep it as is
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> meh
[05:39] <Cacher> well, ~username/ will always work
[05:40] <Cacher> ;)
[05:40] <MasterShrek> but if you are root, ~/ will point to /root, where as /home/`whoami` would point to /home/root which probably doesnt exist
[05:40] <MasterShrek> a symlink would work tho i spose...
[05:41] <Cacher> ~root would work
[05:41] <Cacher> ~ =  my home
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm gonna go with ~/ for now
[05:41] <Cacher> ~user = user's home
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> until i get it working, at least :)
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[05:41] <Jucato> ~ = the current user's home
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> seems i need to strip the urls out of these lines before this will work :\
[05:42] <Cacher> can you provide the output of the piped grep command?
[05:42] <Cacher> or a couple lines
[05:43] <Cacher> or even the input maybe we can find a better solution
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it worked
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> wget's throwing errors for parts of lines it doesn't like
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's definitely getting the URLs...
[05:44] <Cacher> if it's throwing errors, make sure they aren't empty files
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[05:45] <Cacher> the command i gave you should work provided that the output of your grep is a whitespace-separated list of valid urls
[05:45] <pagan0ne> anyone know how to fix kopete? it wont connect, fresh install, problem looks like it may be related to kwallet....
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> it's grabbing every whitespace-separated entry, urls and not
[05:45] <Cacher> do you have whitespaces in your urls?
[05:46] <Cacher> well it would, my command did not filter urls out
[05:46] <ardchoille> should use  %20  instead of spaces in url's, no?
[05:46] <Cacher> the $url variable was just a name i picked, not a filter or anything
[05:46] <Daisuke_Ido> http://pastebin.ca/757343
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, there's no whitespaces in the urls
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> but these are log lines
[05:47] <Cacher> ok
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> [Sun Oct 14 2007 TIME] <nick> URL
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> it's grabbing each of those first parts then the url
[05:48] <Cacher> can you paste the output of your grep filter, without my script wrapped around it?
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> the output?  not without incriminating myself :)
[05:48] <Cacher> okay than
[05:48] <Cacher> can you describe it
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i just did
[05:48] <ardchoille> lol
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> the actual piped grep commands?
[05:49] <Cacher> let me take a wild guess
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> that i can do...
[05:49] <Cacher> is each line of output looking like this:
[05:49] <Cacher> mon day year url
[05:50] <dasKreech> Jucato: I know what kernel 3.0 will be like
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> running the bare grep command now
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> waiting for results...  there's a lot to trudge through :D
[05:51] <draik> Ready or not, here I upgrade
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> [Thu Nov 1 2007] [00:58:54] <Demonbaines>  http://
[05:52] <Cacher> ok
[05:52] <Cacher> add one more pipe to that
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> grep -i Demonbaines ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/* | grep -i http\: | grep -i \.jpg$
[05:53] <ardchoille> he gets too many pipes and he's going to need roto rooter, lol
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the current set
[05:53] <sunny_> How to install intel graphic driver
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: gutsy?
[05:53] <sunny_> yes
[05:53] <draik> Jucato: Is there an issue with canonical (feisty)?
[05:53] <sunny_> kubuntu gusty
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:53] <Cacher>  add this at the end:  | sed 's/$.*http:/http:/g'
[05:54] <sunny_> thank you,
[05:54] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: I don't think there's a dash between xorg and video
[05:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, thought i might need sed to extract the urls
[05:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !find video-intel
[05:54] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:54] <Cacher> correction  add this at the end:  | sed 's/$.*http/http/g'
[05:55] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: Sorry.
[05:55] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: i was double-checking myself too :)
[05:55] <draik> Preparing the upgrade is stuck at Fetching file 90 of 95
[05:56] <draik> I cannot click on Show Terminal >>> since it is greyed out
[05:56] <Cacher> my bad:  | sed 's/^.*http/http/g'
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: only been a couple minutes, you're okay :)
[05:56] <sunny_> I tried, but It's says I have install the driver
[05:56] <draik> Daisuke_Ido: How long will this part take?
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> draik: i dunno
[05:57] <draik> average?
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't really remember :)
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> took me a few minutes, i know that
[05:57] <dasKreech> Jucato: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/2/247
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: it says it's already installed?
[05:57] <sunny_> yes
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ... so what's the issue?
[05:57] <Jucato> dasKreech: ??
[05:57] <sunny_> but I use glxgears to check
[05:58] <dasKreech> Jucato: catching up
[05:58] <sunny_> only 1110FPS
[05:58] <dasKreech> The kernel 3.0 discussion
[05:58] <draik> Well, I have to go to work early tomorrow.
[05:58] <sunny_> So I can open google earth
[05:58] <Jucato> dasKreech: I do believe they have scrapped that convention as well. no more ood-even unstable-stable scheme
[05:58] <draik> I will leave this overnight
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> it's integrated graphics.  the fact that glxgears worked to begin with should have told you you had the 3d drivers installed :)
[05:58] <draik> Thank you all for your help. As always, you're great help.
[05:59] <dasKreech> Jucato: I know. The odds were just as stable
[05:59] <dasKreech>  but kernel 3 will be written in VB!
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> >_<
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> byebye stability
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> and everything else, too!
[05:59] <dasKreech> that's the point I think ;-)
[05:59] <sunny_> 3D driver? I can't anywhere
[05:59] <Cacher> LOL
[06:00] <sunny_> I can't find anywhere
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: in a terminal, type 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> without 's
[06:00] <sunny_> Ok
[06:00]  * Jucato inserts a -i after grep
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: never needed it before :)
[06:01] <Jucato> oh yeah.. hm..
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> exact same output
[06:01] <Jucato> oh! it's needed if you grep for yes
[06:01] <anton_> Hello there. I'm trying to use bittornado, but I get an error everytime I try to download a torrent. Do I need to be in root mode or something? It says permission denied.
[06:01] <anton_> If that's the case, how do I go into root mode?
[06:02] <sunny_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> anton_: if you need to be superuser to use a torrent client, something's wrong with it.
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: i965 chipset?
[06:02] <sunny_> yes
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> thought so.
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> same thing that's in my 1420n
[06:02] <sunny_> what's worng
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> i fixed it, but i don't remember how...
[06:02] <anton_> Daisuke_Ido: I see.
[06:02] <sunny_> How you do it
[06:03] <sunny_> Oh! my gay
[06:03] <anton_> Daisuke_Ido: Recommend any other bittorrent client?
[06:04] <sunny_> Don't you Recommend a littled about it? tell me the condition about that
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> anton_: ktorrent
[06:05] <Cacher> ktorrent works fine for me
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> or deluge-torrent
[06:05] <Cacher> whoa
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: change your colour dept to 16 bit
[06:05] <bazhang> transmission is a good client as well
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> the igp isn't getting enough shared memory to handle DRI at 24 bit
[06:06] <Cacher> tab-completion on nicks <- brilliant
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: amen :)
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> however, sometimes i catch myself getting mad at tab-complete when it won't finish normal words for me :\
[06:07] <Cacher> Daisuke_Ido: lol i know.  I should be able to hit the tab and it types my current thought
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: it'll be in kernel 3.0!
[06:07] <anton_> Thanks, KTorrent seems to be working fine!
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome. ktorrent's nice
[06:08] <Cacher> with VB though?
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, that was just a rumour
[06:08] <Cacher> you'll need to install 3 gigs of M$ devoloper libraries before it'll work
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> they're writing it in perl
[06:08] <Cacher> ha
[06:08] <Cacher> can you fit a perl interpreter into a MBR?
[06:09] <sunny_> change in xorg.conf?
[06:10] <Cacher> sunny_: what are you trying to do?
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: or under system settings > display and monitor (i think)
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: lower default res from 24 to 16 bit
[06:10] <Cacher> it's a one-liner in xorg.conf
[06:10] <Merrittkr> Can anyone suggest a channel for general chat, that actually has living people in it? :)
[06:10] <sunny_> chang colur
[06:11] <sunny_> in 16bit
[06:11] <sunny_> display and monitor on this item
[06:12] <Cacher> sunny_: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:12] <Cacher> ps do we have good reason for doing this?
[06:12] <sunny_> sudo kate /etc/x11.xorg.conf
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: not enough shared memory to enable direct rendering at 24 bit
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> integrated graphics processor
[06:13] <Cacher> sunny_: ctrl-f
[06:14] <Cacher> sunny_: DefaultDepth
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> change 24 to 16
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> save
[06:14] <Cacher> but don't close yet
[06:15] <sunny_> yes, i have change now,
[06:15] <Cacher> make sure there is a 16-bit display subsection
[06:15] <Cacher> below, see "depth 24"
[06:15] <Cacher> see "depth 16"?
[06:16] <Cacher> in no, change also
[06:16] <sunny_> Am'I need to restart X
[06:16] <sunny_> ?
[06:16] <Cacher> wait
[06:17] <Cacher> if you get stuck out of X, can you ise vim or a text-based editor to fix it back?
[06:18] <Cacher> if tis fails i mean
[06:18] <Cacher> ooh i know
[06:18] <Cacher> save kate
[06:19] <Cacher> oops
[06:19] <Cacher> i hope he comes back
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ...yeah
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i forgot about checking to see if there was a 16 bit depth section
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i just take it for granted that it's there :\
[06:19] <Cacher> i was gonna tell him to save, then to do a "new session" from the k menu
[06:19] <Cacher> yeah it's not there on mine
[06:20] <Cacher> do we know what chipset he has?
[06:20] <Jucato> a new session doesn't restart X or start a new X session
[06:20] <Jucato> er.. I mean a new X session that uses the new xorg.conf
[06:20] <Cacher> you sure?
[06:21] <Jucato> afaik
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: intel 965
[06:21] <Jucato> and when I tried before
[06:21] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i liked your post on the planet about kubuntu
[06:21] <Cacher> i have that chipset i think
[06:21] <Jucato> posingaspopular: heh thanks :)
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> i've got it in my 1420n
[06:21]  * Jucato is surprised he hasn't been flamed... yet...
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> ehh?
[06:22] <Cacher> Jucato: long before there was an easy way to do it (k menu), I used to start multiple X servers, it was just "startx -- :Z" where Z was the display number you wanted to use
[06:22] <posingaspopular> yea how has the response been so far
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the word, sunny_
[06:23] <Jucato> Cacher: I don't remember that option in the K Menu, but yeah that's how you usually start a fresh new X session
[06:23] <sunny_> I chang colur dept, and check, no use
[06:23] <sunny_> sunny@SUNNY:~$ glxgears
[06:23] <sunny_> 6051 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1192.842 FPS
[06:23] <sunny_> 6120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1212.484 FPS
[06:23] <sunny_> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[06:23] <sunny_>       after 25338 requests (6722 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[06:23] <sunny_> sunny@SUNNY:~$
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> glxinfo | grep direct
[06:24] <Cacher> nope i got the 945
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> though i'm thinking it'll still be no
[06:24] <Jucato> posingaspopular: so far so good. only got a few idiot comments :)
[06:24] <Cacher> sunny_: did you install 915resolution ?
[06:24] <sunny_> sunny@SUNNY:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[06:24] <sunny_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[06:24] <posingaspopular> ah thats because i havent commented and up'ed the stupid
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> grr...
[06:25] <Jucato> posingaspopular: hahah! I doubt it :)
[06:25]  * Daisuke_Ido thinks for a moment
[06:25] <sunny_> I'm have install anything, just come with system's
[06:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: the new driver is supposed to make 915resolution redundant
[06:25] <sunny_> OK
[06:25] <Cacher> oh
[06:26] <Cacher> well, what driver is he using?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> -intel
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> rather than -810
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> (which needed 915resolution)
[06:26] <sunny_> Where I get it
[06:26] <lordofthepigs> Hello! If I add a script to /etc/init.d will it get executed automatically, or do I need to do something else?
[06:27] <Cacher> auto i think
[06:29] <Cacher> sunny is on gutsy?
[06:29] <sunny_> yes
[06:30]  * Cacher is on gutsy with a 945 chipset, 915resolution and the i810 driver, and is loving him some 3d goodness
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[06:31] <sunny_> Ok
[06:31] <Cacher> Daisuke_Ido: nice trick
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | sunny_
[06:31] <ubotu> sunny_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Cacher: borrowed it from the forums :D
[06:32] <sunny_> sunny@SUNNY:~$ cat /var/log/xorg.log | grep EE
[06:32] <sunny_> cat: /var/log/xorg.log: No such file or directory
[06:32] <sunny_> sunny@SUNNY:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.log | grep EE
[06:32] <sunny_> cat: /var/log/Xorg.log: No such file or directory
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Xorg.0.log
[06:32] <Cacher>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:33] <sunny_> sorry
[06:33] <Cacher> [Error] var/log/Xorg.0.log: Unknown command.
[06:33] <Cacher> hehe
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i get that occasionally
[06:33] <Cacher> been a while away from irc for me
[06:33] <Cacher> doh
[06:34] <Cacher> !paste | sunny
[06:34] <ubotu> sunny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you definitely want to use pastebin for something like this :)
[06:35] <sunny_> Cacher What's !paste | sunny mean
[06:35] <sunny_> how can i do
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: see the message from ubotu
[06:35] <lordofthepigs> Where do I have to register a init.d script to have it executed at startup?
[06:35] <sunny_>  !paste | sunny
[06:35] <ubotu> sunny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:36] <Cacher> lord of the pigs: give the name of ANY script from your init.s folder
[06:36] <sunny_> sorry
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> paste the output there
[06:36] <sunny_> Ok
[06:36] <sunny_> I get It
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and once you submit, it'll give you a url
[06:38] <Cacher> lordofthepigs: you have to symlink the script into one of the /etc/rc?.d/ folders
[06:38] <lordofthepigs> oh, I see
[06:38] <Cacher> ? being whatever your default runlevel is
[06:38] <lordofthepigs> i've just read about something called update-rc.d
[06:38] <Cacher> likely 2 or 3
[06:38] <Cacher> that may work for you, I am old-school
[06:39] <Cacher> the symlinks all have prefixes that determines the order tey are run in
[06:40] <lordofthepigs> I want to use the undervolt script of PHC 0.3
[06:40] <lordofthepigs> so I would need it to run during boot time
[06:40] <lordofthepigs> what runlevels would I need to register it with then?
[06:40] <sunny_> Daisuke_Ido on gusty, if we need to setup Intel graphics
[06:40] <sunny_> ???
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: go to the pastebin website, paste the error messages, and give us the link
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> we can't do anything without that link.
[06:42] <sunny_> I have paste it aready
[06:42] <Cacher> lordofthepigs: you can place your script anywhere, and add it to the end of /etc/rc.local
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the link?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you have to tell us, or we won't be able to see it :)
[06:43] <dotz> can i use kubuntu as a server?
[06:43] <anton_> Best audio player for Kubuntu?
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok, hands down
[06:44] <posingaspopular> amarok
[06:44] <anton_> Hm, couldn't get any sound from it, but I got sound from Kaffeine
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> that's odd
[06:44] <sunny_> I just put my name there, how can I tell you?
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> when you click the paste button it will give you a link
[06:45] <Cacher> sunny_: put in name, then paste into big box, then scroll down and hit "paste" button
[06:45] <Cacher> then copy the link at the top of your browser and paste the link in here
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i've got about 5 minutes before i have to crash
[06:45] <sunny_> yes I do all what you say
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> class in 6 hours :\
[06:46] <dotz> can i use linux as an active directory server?
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> sunny_: except the pasting the link in here part
[06:46] <Cacher> sunny_: tell us the http:// of the page you are on
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> isn't AD an ntfs thing?
[06:46] <sunny_> Ok, now i paste another one aready, can you see it
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> you have to give us the link in *here*
[06:46] <Cacher> sunny, what page are you on
[06:46] <anton_> Hm, what could be wrong if I get sound from kaffeine, but not amarok?
[06:47] <Cacher> sunny_: tell us the URL
[06:47] <Cacher> anton_: amarok volume all the way down
[06:47] <anton_> Cacher: Nope.
[06:47] <sunny_> I don't what is URL
[06:48] <squarebottle> I don't have the option to shutdown. It only gives me the option to log out. Any thoughts?
[06:48] <dotz> can i use samba as AD?
[06:48] <sunny_> my net page?
[06:48] <Cacher> sunny_: top of browser ->  http://dkkfsfksfldskfjds
[06:48] <sunny_> webpage?
[06:48] <Cacher> YES
[06:48] <Cacher> tell us http
[06:48] <sunny_> http://www.163.com
[06:49] <Cacher> webpage where yu see your paste
[06:49] <sunny_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42888/
[06:49] <Cacher> :)
[06:49] <squarebottle> Does anybody know how I can make the option to shutdown come back?
[06:49] <sunny_> thank you
[06:50] <anton_> I can't find any audio settings in Amarok...
[06:50] <sunny_> This one is OK
[06:50] <anton_> So, how can I get any sound from it? :P
[06:50] <sunny_> ???
[06:50] <Cacher> (EE) intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0
[06:50] <sunny_> yes
[06:50] <anton_> The "welcome file" worked...but not my mp3's
[06:50] <Cacher> that is how pastebin works
[06:50] <sunny_> what'a worng with it
[06:50] <posingaspopular> anton_: can you get sound outside of the welcome sound?
[06:50] <Cacher> you paste, then tell us the web page
[06:50] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not the i965...  is it?
[06:50] <posingaspopular> stream music, etc
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> anton_: libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> install that :)
[06:51] <anton_> posingaspopular: I get sound with kaffeine, and that welcome-file worked, too...
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> the welcome file is an ogg
[06:51] <anton_> Daisuke_Ido: Howto? :)
[06:51] <Daisuke_Ido> anton_: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:51] <Cacher> sunny_: lspci | grep VGA
[06:51] <sunny_> Daisuke_Ido Are you talk to me?
[06:51] <anton_> Big thanks! :)
[06:51] <sunny_> Ok
[06:53] <anton_> Daisuke_Ido: Still doesn't seem to work :S
[06:53] <sunny_> can you see it
[06:53] <supert0nes> does anyone know of a way to dock pidgin?
[06:53] <posingaspopular> supert0nes: permenantly?
[06:53] <supert0nes> yeah and windows move out of the way
[06:53] <Cacher> sunny_: tell us paste webpage
[06:54] <posingaspopular> right click on the pidgin icon
[06:54] <posingaspopular> and look at interface
[06:54] <anton_> Daisuke_Ido: Sure you didn't mean -ffmp3 or something? :)
[06:54] <sunny_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42889/
[06:54] <posingaspopular> afaik, that's about the best you can do
[06:54] <sunny_> I tell you before
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !find libxine-
[06:54] <ubotu> Found: libxine-dev, libxine1-doc, libxine-xvdr
[06:54] <Cacher> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:54] <anton_> What does that mean? :)
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's the 965...
[06:54] <sunny_> yes, this is my imformation
[06:54] <posingaspopular> there might be a plugin or two that would help you do that do
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:55] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[06:55] <supert0nes> posingaspopular: ya ive been playing with pidgin and looking at the plugins but i just cant seem to find one
[06:56] <supert0nes> kde offers some placement options like keep on top of other windows but not that
[06:56] <supert0nes> heck compiz might even be able to help me out
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:56] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[06:56] <sunny_> Cacher can find any problem
[06:56] <Cacher> sunny_: I am googleing
[06:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i am at a complete loss here
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> and i have GOT to get some sleep, or i'll be a zombie tomorrow
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> er...  today :(
[06:57] <posingaspopular> supert0nes: doesnt look like an option :(
[06:57] <anton_> Hm ok...I'll use Kaffeine for now, then. When is it ok to post question again? :)
[06:57] <anton_> Thanks for helping btw.
[06:57] <supert0nes> gaim used to have a plugin for windows
[06:58] <supert0nes> i have  a widescreen and it makes good use of the space
[06:59] <tuxwulf_> My laptop just froze and now I have to use my alternate ID in here, Konversation,, it seems... any way to switch back...?
[06:59] <posingaspopular> tuxwulf_: is your other ID still logged in?
[07:00] <posingaspopular> !nickserv
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <posingaspopular> !register
[07:00] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:00] <anton_> Posting question again: Hm, what could be wrong if I get sound from kaffeine, but not amarok?
[07:00] <tuxwulf_> Posing > .. If it is, I am not seeing it in the list n the left
[07:01] <tuxwulf_> ....right, I mean
[07:01] <sunny_> Daisuke_Ido can I ask you one questions
[07:01] <sunny_> ?
[07:01] <posingaspopular> so why can't you do /nick (oldnick)
[07:01] <posingaspopular> or is that the command you need
[07:02] <tuxwulf> posing > ...wow, that seems to have worked....cool
[07:02] <tuxwulf> I just started with irc two days ago or so, I am not yet familiar with many posibilities... thanks!
[07:03] <posingaspopular> no problem
[07:03] <Jucato> !helpersnack | posingaspopular
[07:03] <ubotu> posingaspopular: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[07:03] <posingaspopular> tuxwulf: i remember being new to IRC as well. didn't know how to do /nick either
[07:03] <tuxwulf> BTW... have you ever played around with KwifiManager ...?
[07:03] <posingaspopular> coooookie monster
[07:03] <tuxwulf> you = anyone here
[07:04] <tuxwulf> Yes, cookie for Posing... !
[07:04] <posingaspopular> Jucato: kwifimanager?
[07:04] <mbenedi> #ubuntu
[07:04] <posingaspopular> ive never used it msyelf
[07:04] <Jucato> don't look at me :)
[07:04] <posingaspopular> !hi
[07:04] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:04] <Lam_> is there a way to set the storage media button back to the way it was before, in that it linked to /media instead of system:/media
[07:05] <tuxwulf> OK, no problem... Just saw that KwifiManager on Kubuntu s different than KwifiManager on BackTrack
[07:05] <Dave_> help, i messed up my wireless settings!!
[07:06] <posingaspopular> !doesntwork
[07:06] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:06] <posingaspopular> Dave_: more details please ;p
[07:08] <Dave_> wireless card will not connect anymore,hows that?:)
[07:10] <dotz> hi, if i am administrating for more than 2 kubuntu computers, how do i update all end users in one shot?
[07:11] <Dave_> guess ill have to reinstall because i dont know how i messed it up
[07:12] <tuxwulf> Dave: When you start your computer, does your wireless automatically connect?
[07:12] <Dave_> it used to, now it looks like a ethernet connection
[07:13] <posingaspopular> Dave_: what commands have you tried running
[07:13] <Dave_> i tried to go into knetwork manager but i messed somehing up in there
[07:13] <se7en^Of^9> dotz: let me know that too ... all i found out was that you can upgrade one box and than scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*deb to the other box that would save you downloading all the .deb's again ...
[07:14] <anton_> Another good audio player for kubuntu would be?
[07:14] <posingaspopular> manual configurations Dave_
[07:14] <anton_> I would like something like foobar2000...
[07:14] <Dave_> noe it keep telling me the ip address is wrnog
[07:14] <posingaspopular> anton_: vlc
[07:14] <posingaspopular> ahhh
[07:15] <posingaspopular> try running 'ifconfig'
[07:15] <Dave_> *wrong
[07:15] <anton_> posingaspopular: yeah...I use vlc for videos....would like another for audio though.
[07:15] <Dave_> ok
[07:15] <posingaspopular> or sudo dhclient
[07:16] <Dave_> what will those tell me?
[07:17] <dotz> se7en^Of^9: if its a big organisation (100 computers), it will be very troublesome to rsync all the deb files, and ssh in to do update..although i think i can make a script to do that
[07:17] <dotz> but isn't there a better way to do it?
[07:18] <se7en^Of^9> dotz: i hope so but i could not find one ... if you do please let me know :)
[07:18] <posingaspopular> those should tell you the ip adress and configure your internet settings so you can connect
[07:18] <posingaspopular> those are the commands I had to run when knetworkmanager wasn't configured properly
[07:18] <Dave_> no working leases in persistant database
[07:19] <dotz> se7en^Of^9: yeah because so far i'm only managing 6 end users kubuntu..and it is tiring to go around upgrading it from edgy..to fiesty..to gutsy
[07:20] <tuxwulf> Dave > So that means your wireless is not connecting....
[07:20] <tuxwulf> Dave : try "/etc/init.d/dbus restart" ....?
[07:20] <Dave_> ok, so how do i fix it?
[07:20] <Dave_> ok
[07:20] <tuxwulf> It worked on mine quite well a couple of times
[07:21] <se7en^Of^9> dotz: yes i understand your problem i have the same
[07:22] <hagabaka> did anyone else lose mouse gesture presets after updating KDE?
[07:22] <Dave_> i get a bunch of permissions denied
[07:22] <posingaspopular> sudo
[07:22] <posingaspopular> super user do
[07:23] <Dave_> ok
[07:23] <se7en^Of^9> dotz: rsync or scp works ok all you would have to do is update the other box and than upgrade but i am sure there is a better way
[07:23] <posingaspopular> Dave_: see also http://xkcd.com/149/
[07:23] <service> can someone help me please? how do i delete a mountpoint?
[07:25] <Lam_> how do i get "Storage Media" to point to /media instead of system:/media?
[07:25] <se7en^Of^9> service: a mountpoint should be only a folder ...
[07:25] <tuxwulf> Dave : Oh, as root, or with a preceding sudo
[07:25] <Dave_> it took, do i need to restart?
[07:26] <service> thanks
[07:26] <service> i deleted it in admin mode
[07:26] <tuxwulf> Dave : No, you shouldnot have to restart. What does "ifconfig" and "wconfig" tell you now...?
[07:26] <tuxwulf> wconfig --> iwconfig
[07:27] <Dave_> i dont even see a wireless icon near sound icon anymore
[07:27] <Dave_> let me see
[07:28] <Dave_> a bunch of mumbo jumbo as far as i can tell :-)
[07:28] <posingaspopular> Dave_: pase the ouput
[07:28] <posingaspopular> !paste
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:29] <Dave_> its on a different system
[07:30] <Dave_> :-/
[07:31] <posingaspopular> ah okay... hmmm.
[07:32] <Dave_> it says it started and stopped  some services but no change
[07:32] <tuxwulf> Dave > Is the correct module loaded?
[07:33] <Dave_> and which one would that be:-/
[07:33] <Dave_> :-/
[07:33] <tuxwulf> Dave > What wireless thingy is giving you trouble ...?
[07:34] <tuxwulf> Dave > USB, PCMCIA, PCI, ...? What brand, chipset ...?
[07:34] <Dave_> wmp54g
[07:34] <Dave_> linksys
[07:35] <tuxwulf> Can you find it in the list you get with lsmod?
[07:36] <Dave_> just a sec
[07:38] <Dave_> not that i can see
[07:39] <tuxwulf> Then you can first try "sudo modproble <module>"
[07:39] <Dave_> ok
[07:40] <Kamerheimer> i need help with install, never installed linux before but computer knowledgable
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> it is giving me full red screen taht keeps dimming
[07:41] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: what does the red screen say?
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> nothing just colors
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> like an array of red hues
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> did it 3 time
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> s
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> smae thing with ubuntu
[07:41] <posingaspopular> try rebooting. i'll walk you through it if i can, but it sounds like a hardware issue
[07:41] <Kamerheimer> i picked the first option on the boot cd list
[07:42] <posingaspopular> tried booting from Kubuntu/Ubuntu live cd
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> i got thsi one
[07:42] <posingaspopular> the install/run option right?
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> 7.10 downloaded from it
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> ga tech rather
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[07:42] <Kamerheimer> amd64 one
[07:43] <Dave_> modproble: command not found
[07:43] <posingaspopular> hmmm strange.
[07:43] <posingaspopular> can you try installing it via an alternate cd, or the DVD version
[07:43] <Kamerheimer> i got a turion 64 x2 mobile
[07:43] <Kamerheimer> was i supp to do other one
[07:43] <tuxwulf> Dave: Oh sorry, my mistype> modprobe
[07:43] <Kamerheimer> what is alternate cd version or dbd
[07:43] <Kamerheimer> dvd versioin
[07:43] <Kamerheimer> link would be nice
[07:43] <tuxwulf> minus the 'l'
[07:43] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: same pace, scroll down
[07:43] <Dave_> tuxwulf,ok
[07:44] <Kamerheimer> oh ok i see alterane now
[07:44] <Kamerheimer> haha
[07:44] <Kamerheimer> whats difference between alt and desktop
[07:44] <posingaspopular> i think the alternate cd installes the server edition and you have to build the desktop on top
[07:45] <posingaspopular> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[07:46] <posingaspopular> or the DVD version lets you install with lost of other packages optional, so you can choose as you please, afaik
[07:46] <Kamerheimer> ahhhhhh i dotn have dvd version
[07:46] <Kamerheimer> i mean dvd burner on this comp
[07:46] <posingaspopular> ahhh
[07:46] <Kamerheimer> so ill have to do that one another time
[07:46] <posingaspopular> alternate cd
[07:47] <posingaspopular> best bet i think
[07:47] <posingaspopular> Jucato: what's the difference between alternate and normal cd
[07:47] <Dave_> i give up, this is too complicated, thanks for the help anyway, ill just reinstall :-/
[07:47] <Jucato> Desktop CD = Live CD w/ very simple/basic graphical installer. can't install w/o X/GUI
[07:48] <Jucato> Alternate Install = ncurses/text based installer, more options, can be used to install on low-end machines that can't run the Desktop CD comfortably
[07:48] <posingaspopular> ah okay, so Kamerheimer can use alternate to install. he's having some issues with the installer
[07:48]  * Jucato nods
[07:48] <Jucato> I only use the Desktop CD for demos and giveaways :)
[07:48] <tuxwulf> Dave : ... sorry to hear that though ...
[07:48] <Kamerheimer> so is this gonna install it on my hard drive or just run it
[07:49] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: both
[07:49] <Kamerheimer> oh itll give me choice
[07:49] <Jucato> Alternate Install CD just installs. Desktop CD, you need to run it first before you can install
[07:49] <posingaspopular> ahhhh
[07:49] <Kamerheimer> oh ok
[07:49]  * posingaspopular learned something today
[07:49] <Jucato> Alternate CD doesn't have a Live CD feature.
[07:49] <Dave_> knetworking is definatly not for newbies
[07:53] <KalEl> hi there is only one thing that is preventing me from a complete switchover to KDE
[07:53] <posingaspopular> KalEl: click 'install' ;p
[07:53] <KalEl> when i use remote desktop, it seems kfrb uses almost 100% CPU
[07:54] <KalEl> whereas the gnome "vino-server" uises no CPU at all
[07:54] <KalEl> on the server machine
[07:54] <posingaspopular> KalEl: can't you run vino-server on kde?
[07:54] <posingaspopular> or does kde not like that
[07:54] <KalEl> i never tried that don't know how to
[07:54] <posingaspopular> <-- runs gnometrics on his computer
[07:55] <posingaspopular> if you go to the kmenu-addremoveprograms
[07:55] <posingaspopular> up on top you can search for any suite, kde, or gnome
[07:56] <posingaspopular> and you should be able to find the vino-server and iinstall it on kde
[07:56] <posingaspopular> however, i dont know how well it will run, if at all
[07:57] <posingaspopular> hmmm.... not seeing it in adept actually
[08:00] <KalEl> yeah i could make it run
[08:00] <emilsedgh> anyone knows how could i rip a dvd with a specified subtitle language?
[08:00] <KalEl> seems like vino is much much ahead of krfb in terms of CPU usage!
[08:02] <dwidmann> knetworkmanager is ticking me off :(
[08:03] <olavxxx> le crappie.. the soundcard on my fujitsu siemens didnt work in linux :(
[08:05] <dwidmann> Wow, on an interesting note, I found a way to make knetworkmanager segfault consistently. Leave it to me to find ways to break things :)
[08:07] <PolitikerNEU> Just a question: Where can I post feature requests?
[08:07] <dwidmann> PolitikerNEU: launchpad.net
[08:08] <PolitikerNEU> thanks
[08:08] <dwidmann> PolitikerNEU: or perhaps the ideal pool subforum of the hardy heron development subforum of ubuntuforums.org, though the first is a much better bet.
[08:08] <KalEl> hi, i tried desktop sharing with 'krfb' (KDE) and 'vino-session' (comes with Gnome). krfb uses 100% CPU whereas vino_session uses only 0-4% CPU. why is that? could i have done something wrong while setting up krfb?
[08:13] <dwidmann> Looks like my laptop dropped the connection again ... this is getting really annoying
[08:17] <posingaspopular> <--bed
[08:17] <smorg> !xorg
[08:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <peter_> moin
[08:44] <philipp__> hi
[08:44] <philipp__> i wanted to use qemu with kqemu acceleration
[08:45] <philipp__> i use gutsy. I installed qemu, set up a virtual machine, etc. and installed kqemu-common too... but a modprobe kqemu isn't working - althouh /etc/modprobe.d/kqemu exists.... can somebody help me please?
[08:46] <kazuma_> hi
[08:46] <kazuma_> anyone knows the file ./coolbg
[08:46] <kazuma_> to make the screensaver the wallpaper?
[08:49] <kazuma_> anyone know it
[08:53] <cramc00> I am very content with this Kubuntu version
[08:53] <smorg> gusty is xorg 7.2 right?
[08:55] <cramc00> are ther more wallpapers possible with advanced desktop settings?
[08:55] <cramc00> i mean different wallpapers
[08:56] <toby> kazuma_: Use xwinwrap I think?
[08:56] <cramc00> i will try
[08:57] <cramc00> thankz
[08:58] <kazuma_> but
[08:58] <kazuma_> how
[08:58] <kazuma_> i'm new friend
[08:58] <toby> kazuma_: I'm afraid I don't know - I don't have xgl running yet.
[08:58] <kazuma_> oh ok man thanks
[09:08] <kazuma_> i found itt
[09:08] <kazuma_> iiieaaaa
[09:08] <kazuma_> it's cool xD
[09:09] <kazuma_> toby do you want the scrypt?
[09:09] <kazuma_> it's easy to use x3
[09:20] <toby> kazuma_: I'll wait for Gutsy to roll out before I try Compiz, and I'll wait for Compiz before I try coolbg, but thanks
[09:20] <toby> kazuma_: Did you use xwinwrap in the end?
[09:22] <Jucato> toby: Gutsy has already been released. 2 weeks now
[09:29] <toby> Jucato: Yes, I know, but you still need to enable pre-release repos to install it. I'm waiting for it to come into the normal repos.
[09:29] <toby> Should be any day now according to J Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuGutsyComments?action=recall&rev=9
[09:29] <mooper> http://rafb.net/p/OhGyDB40.html -why is my ssh doing this?
[09:29] <Jucato> toby: that won't happen
[09:30] <Jucato> toby: enabling the pre-release repo is necessary to download the version of Adept that enables upgrading to Gutsy
[09:31] <Jucato> toby: the separate repository is necessary so that those who do not want to upgrade to Gutsy will not be affected. only those who want to upgrade will need to enable that repository
[09:31] <toby> Jucato: Really? I didn't know that :)
[09:32] <Jucato> toby: the pre-release repository itself doesn't do any upgrading to gutsy. it only upgrade Adept (and a few other packages). you'll still remain on Feisty even after doing that. you still have to trigger the upgrade
[09:32] <toby> Jucato: So there is no mechanism to suggest an upgrade to users automatically? (i.e. I imagined the update manager to eventually say "Would you like to dist-upgrade?" or similar.
[09:33] <Jucato> toby: that's the mechanism. after you've updated Adept to the version in the pre-released repository, you will be asked if you want to upgrade to the new release
[09:33] <Jucato> that way, those who want to remain in feisty won't be bothered at all
[09:33] <emonkeyONkde4> Jucato: If you've got a second, I've trouble compiling kdebase, the other problems from yesterday are gone. maybe it has sometinh to do with xkrb, but I don't find a package with that included. http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/17101 http://www.nabble.com/Error-while-compiling-kde-base-of-kde-4-(svn-ver.-727433).-t4658128.html
[09:35] <Jucato> emonkeyONkde4: the relevant error messages come before those you pasted
[09:35] <toby> Jucato: well it looks like I've got a fun dist-upgrade weekend lined up then!
[09:35] <Jucato> have fun! :)
[09:36] <emonkeyONkde4> Jucato: :( ok I'll try it again an this time I do log with tee
[09:36] <Dresken> When I try to mount my NTFS external HDD I get a message saying: $Logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Operation not supported Mount denied because NTFS is marked to be in use.
[09:36] <Dresken> Anyone has any idea how to fix this? o_o;
[09:38] <kazuma_> hi
[09:38] <baudthief> hello
[09:38] <kazuma_> anyone knows how to install a cursor theme?
[09:39] <kazuma_> i'm new here x3
[09:39]  * baudthief goes away
[09:39] <baudthief> nope :\
[09:39] <Jucato> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse -> Cursor Theme
[09:39] <Jucato> Click Install New Theme then browse to the .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2 or whatever) file of the cursor theme
[09:40] <kazuma_> thaanks dude
[09:40] <Jucato> (you don't need to unpack/extract the cursor theme)
[09:40] <baudthief> is it worth the upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10? Or will I encounter huge amounts of problems
[09:40] <Jucato> warning, you will need to restart the X server for the cursor theme to take effect
[09:40] <kazuma_> thanks jucato
[09:41] <emonkeyONkde4> Jucato: do you know how to change the language of the errors? I don't you understand german: Fehler: unvollständiger Typ »QAction« in geschachtelter Namensangabe verwendet
[09:41] <Jucato> nope :)
[09:42] <emonkeyONkde4> it was somethin wiht LC_ALL or so
[09:42] <Jucato> you can probably ask in #kde4-devel maybe someone German is around...
[09:42] <emonkeyONkde4> Jucato: thx for hint
[09:42] <kazuma_> what is the format to use
[09:43] <kazuma_> or the extension
[09:43] <kazuma_> with cursors
[09:43] <Jucato> hm?
[09:43] <kazuma_> i donwloaded 2 themes and error
[09:43] <Jucato> what file format do the cursor themes come in? and where did you get them
[09:43] <kazuma_> from kde look
[09:43] <Jucato> can you give me a link to check?
[09:44] <kazuma_> yeah
[09:44] <kazuma_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Ambidexter+Silver?content=20178
[09:46] <Jucato> hm.. weird. hold on
[09:46] <kazuma_> ok man
[09:46] <kazuma_> thanks
[09:46] <Jucato> er... this one needs to be installed differently
[09:47] <kazuma_> =o
[09:47] <kazuma_> how?
[09:47] <Jucato> it has a special script to install it
[09:47] <kazuma_> is it difficult=
[09:48] <Jucato> not really. just.. um... unusual... and I don't know how reliable
[09:48] <kazuma_> thanks man
[09:49] <Jucato> just extract the contents of the archive, go to the folder where install.all is in, then double click. that *should* do it. but I'm not 100% sure
[09:49] <kazuma_> thanks!
[09:51] <kazuma_> nothing happened
[09:51] <kazuma_> my god xD
[09:52] <Jucato> go to System Settings -> Mouse -> Cursor theme and check if it's there. you might need to restart X for it to take effect
[09:52] <Jucato> (or you can just look or another, more sane, theme)
[09:56] <kazuma_> nothing happend
[09:56] <kazuma_> can you recommend me any cursor theme?
[09:57] <Jucato> can't think of anything
[09:58] <javier_> hola
[09:59] <javier_> estoy empezando a trastear con kubuntu
[09:59] <javier_> veo que existe kubuntu para amd64 pero para intel funciona
[09:59] <javier_> ?
[09:59] <kazuma_> jucato
[09:59] <kazuma_> can you tell me
[09:59] <kazuma_> if this works?
[09:59] <kazuma_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Nouveau+X11+Mouse+theme?content=20997
[10:00] <Jucato> !es | javier_
[10:00] <ubotu> javier_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:00] <javier_> ok!
[10:00] <javier_> 100kius jeje
[10:02] <mikkael> my sound is a lot more quiet on kubuntu compared with windows xp
[10:02] <mikkael> AC'97 onboard sound
[10:03] <jbbarnes> no hay muchas personas que hablan espanol aqui
[10:03] <jpatrick> !es | jbbarnes
[10:03] <ubotu> jbbarnes: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:04] <Jucato> kazuma_: it works... sort of
[10:05] <kazuma_> wow
[10:05] <kazuma_> i did
[10:05] <kazuma_> something else
[10:05] <jbbarnes> Wanted to reply to him. Didn't realize the bot would catch it.
[10:05] <kazuma_> i guess it worked
[10:05] <kazuma_> wait
[10:06] <kazuma_> it worked!!!
[10:19] <angus> is anyone else having trouble when trying to change their desktop resolution?
[10:20] <luca> ciao
[10:23] <combinio> why if i'm pressing CTRL+X buttons it is copy&paste and not cut&paste ? (kub-7.04)
[10:24] <combinio> i mean an icon becomes grey color but it still there where it was (some backup system (?) )
[10:26] <combinio> grrrr :[ no answers :(
[10:48] <kaoskinkae> saludos
[10:49] <kaoskinkae> desde españa
[10:49] <Jucato> !es | kaoskinkae
[10:49] <ubotu> kaoskinkae: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:50] <kaoskinkae> gracias es la primera vez un saludo desde aqui.. hello
[10:58] <dhq> i forgot my username and password
[10:59] <vge> gz
[10:59] <dhq> how do i login
[11:01] <vge> dhq: this might help : http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/recovery.html
[11:07] <joebleack> hello
[11:08] <joebleack> i have e question
[11:08] <Lynoure> What is it?
[11:09] <joebleack> can i instal kubuntu on my system and conect it to the internet using an adsl monem from tomson
[11:09] <joebleack> model 330
[11:09] <joebleack> it is on usb
[11:10] <se7en^Of^9> joebleack: should work but try it form the live cd first
[11:11] <joebleack> it dosent work
[11:11] <joebleack> it finds it dos not run
[11:11] <joebleack> iahave set the country conds for the vci and vpi
[11:12] <joebleack> i set the username and pasword
[11:12] <Jucato_> pppoe adsl?
[11:12] <joebleack> yeap
[11:12] <joebleack> ppoe
[11:12] <Jucato_> try setting it up with "sudo pppoeconf" from Konsole
[11:13] <joebleack> yah with papsecrets and capsecrets
[11:13] <Jucato_> worked for me before :(
[11:14] <joebleack> doo you have a config file
[11:14] <joebleack> ?
[11:15] <Jucato_> nope
[11:15] <joebleack> i tryed pclinux2007 ubuntu suse slack fedora
[11:15] <joebleack> none of them worked
[11:16] <joebleack> the only way i se it posible is to ghet a adsl modem with 1 ore more eth conectors
[11:17] <joebleack> but it is knda expensive :(
[11:24] <ubuntu> hi, i have a problem with the gutsy live cd and automounting my hd partitions. I got "hal-storage-fixed-mount refuses uid 999" as an error. Any ideas (except mounting manually)?
[11:35] <Dresken> Gah
[11:36] <Dresken> Sorry for all the questions, first time linux user, but how do I change the ownership of my external ext3 HDD?
[11:37] <fkefer> Dresken: you don't change ownership of the whole HDD but rather each single file and directory
[11:37] <Dresken> Well I can't seem to even create a directory on the HDD..
[11:37] <fkefer> you can do this via chown on the terminal and i'm sure you can do the same with konqueror or dolphin
[11:38] <cee> is there some kde-beta4 packages available?
[11:38] <fkefer> then you don't own the hdd's root directory :-)
[11:38] <Dresken> So how do I fix that?
[11:39] <fkefer> chown <user>:<group> /media/path_to_hdd
[11:43] <Dresken> Didn't seem to change anything lol
[11:44] <fkefer> do you have the respective access rights ?
[11:44] <fkefer> ls -l /media
[11:44] <fkefer> it should say that you the user are allowed to write
[11:45] <fkefer> if you aren't then grant you these rights - again either via some GUI tool or chmod u+w /media/path_to_hdd
[11:46] <VitaminCPP> I wanna switch keyboard layout with alt+shift, how do I configure that?
[11:47] <Dresken> Again, nothing has changed, the terminal would just take the commands and not show anything in return <_<
[11:48] <Dresken> And I have now idea what to make of the things the ls -l /media command displayed
[11:48] <arash_> Dresken , doesn't 'ls -l /media' return anything?
[11:48] <fkefer> the terminal only shows anything in return when something went wrong; that's the unix way of saying "hey, everything went well, i don't bother you!
[11:48] <fkefer> ok, that should well return something
[11:49] <Dresken> It does return some thing
[11:49] <Dresken> I just have no idea what to make of them lol
[11:49] <arash_> !pastebin | Dresken
[11:49] <ubotu> Dresken: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <arash_> Post the return there, unless you think there are 'private' info in the return
[11:51] <Dresken> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42896/plain/
[11:52] <fkefer> The disk does belong to root, and you the user do only have tights to read and "execute"
[11:52] <fkefer> look at the first block of codes:
[11:52] <fkefer> (in the line that says "disk" at the end - that's your harddisk)
[11:53] <fkefer> it says "drwxr-xr-x
[11:53] <fkefer> that means: d -> it's a directory
[11:53] <arash_> I can't view the pastebin result, why is that?
[11:53] <fkefer> then always three symbols go together: the first three are the rights for the user owning the dir
[11:54] <fkefer> the second three for the group the dir belongs to
[11:54] <fkefer> and the third for "everybody else"
[11:54] <arash_> ah, firefox's fault
[11:54] <Dresken> I see
[11:54] <arash_> for more details about that system
[11:54] <fkefer> so the first trippe says "rwx" meaning "read write eXecute"
[11:54] <arash_> !chmod | Dresken
[11:54] <ubotu> Dresken: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:54] <Dresken> So how do I change it so I can read, write and execute from it?
[11:55] <arash_> Dresken Or you can always make yourself root when writing to the disk, up to you to decide
[11:56] <Dresken> I'd prefer to have myself write to it from this user instead of always changing when wanting to write to it =P
[11:56] <arash_> Dresken, you don't have to log out and in lol, just type 'gksu konqueror' (or 'gksu Dolphin' depending on file browser)
[11:57] <Dresken> Typed that and still can't write to it =P
[11:58] <icewater1an> how does kubuntu know when to mount a new volume?
[11:58] <icewater1an> because i have some encrypted disks i also want to mount automatically
[11:59] <arash_> Dresken 'sudo chmod 777 <drivepath>' I think
[11:59] <arash_> Dresken, 777 means everyone can write to it aswell, dunno if that is waht you want.
[12:01] <Dresken> Yeah well even that command didn't do anything, for some reason the permission didn't change =P
[12:02] <arash_> Dresken, so 'ls -l /media' returns the same thing?
[12:02] <fkefer> hit: try "sudo chmod 777 /media/disk"
[12:02] <Dresken> Yeah
[12:02] <Dresken> pretty much
[12:03] <fkefer> you can't change permissions when you don't _have_ permissions to change them
[12:03] <Dresken> Ok
[12:03] <Dresken> that worked I think
[12:03] <arash_> !startup | arash
[12:03] <ubotu> arash: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[12:03] <Dresken> Yeah that worked, I can write to it now
[12:03] <Dresken> Thanks =P
[12:03] <arash_> Doesn't ubotu write different things in #kubuntu ?
[12:07] <alex___> hi everyone
[12:07] <Ginnungagap> hi everyone, too
[12:08] <ita-sandro> is there anyone?
[12:08] <ita-sandro> c'è qualcuno?
[12:09] <ubuntu> holaaa
[12:10] <Ginnungagap> My problem is, that I can't make my Asus MyCinema-P7131 analog TV-Card show video and audio. I managed to find channels with KDETV. I hope you can help me.
[12:10] <ubuntu> eing?
[12:16] <arrouan> hi, i have a 2 CD/DVD burner in PATA and they are detected as SCSI burner by Kubuntu, and k3b and cdrecord refuse to burn anything, (i have a IT7MAX2 motherboard with HPT374 chipset) anyone have an idea ?
[12:17]  * Cacher is away: working
[12:27] <Tolsty_Kot> Hello! How I can share folders, which are out of my home folder by samba? for example /media/hda1/Audio
[12:29] <toby> Tolsty_Kot: you can link to them with ln from within your home directory.
[12:29] <toby> Tolsty_Kot: ...or study smb.conf.
[12:33] <Tolsty_Kot> toby I have errors. I can see my share folders (by smb.conf or by links), bat brouser says that there are not folders
[12:33] <toby> Tolsty_Kot: You could try relaxing the permissions on the folder perhaps?
[12:35] <melkor> bonjour tout le monde
[12:36] <melkor> hello everybody
[12:36] <melkor> is there frend user here?
[12:36] <melkor> french
[12:37] <Jucato> !fr | melkor
[12:37] <ubotu> melkor: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:37] <Jucato> ah the patience of users :)
[12:37] <Tolsty_Kot> toby permissions for which group or user? I can do it by sudo
[12:47] <JuJuBee> Trying to install DBDesigner 4 and I need libXft.so.1  where can I get it?
[12:48] <toby> Tolsty_Kot: I don't know - why not pull out your WAN connection temporarily, set the dir to 777, and then reduce permissions until it breaks again?
[12:49] <toby> Tolsty_Kot: then you'll find out what permission is required.
[12:51] <eindbaas> Hi, I need to run the command xmodmap -e "kecode 94 = backslash bar" to remap one of my keys, where can I best put this so that it runs every time I log on?
[12:53] <arrouan> when i try to blank a cd with cdrecord, i have this error cdrecord: Input/output error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: no error but it s a pata burner not a scsi
[12:56] <Carnage\> eindbaas: ~/.xmodmaprc
[13:04] <eindbaas> Carnage\: cheers
[13:11] <giu> hi, i am trying modify the default runlevel in file /etc/event.d/rc-default but nothing happens
[13:12] <eindbaas> Carnage\: doesnt seem like it is running that file, after i reboot the key is not remapped, but if i manually type xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc it works again
[13:12] <L_U_D_A_K> hello! :D
[13:12] <L_U_D_A_K> does anybody have some programs for kubuntu
[13:12] <L_U_D_A_K> I'm new user... :D
[13:12] <giu> i need starting in text mode (runlevel 3)
[13:13] <Carnage\> eindbaas: Yeah, you have to manually run it
[13:13] <Carnage\> put xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc into your ~/.bashrc for example
[13:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[13:14] <eindbaas> Carnage\: ah okay, i'll try
[13:16] <vge> is there a text editor that shows all characters, including newline chars?
[13:17] <lophyte> hey all, I've got compiz fusion running on kubuntu gutsy, but the minimize animation doesn't seem to be working... any suggestions?
[13:18] <giu> =(
[13:18] <schubby> salut tout le monde
[13:19] <schubby> est il possible d'avoir un peu d'aide ici ?§
[13:19] <Jucato> !fr | schubby
[13:19] <ubotu> schubby: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:19] <marco_> si puo?
[13:19] <schubby> :s
[13:19] <Jucato> !it | marco_
[13:19] <ubotu> marco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:19] <marco_> po
[13:19] <icewaterman> lophyte: do you know a howto for installing compiz=
[13:20] <Jucato> !compiz | icewaterman
[13:20] <ubotu> icewaterman: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:20] <Jucato> rawr!... too many ! :D
[13:21] <giu> kubuntu starting in text mode...how to? any suggestion?
[13:22] <Jucato> I think *buntu uses runlevel 3 as the default multiuser with GUI and networking...
[13:23] <Jucato> emonkey-p: I'm guessing all went well then :)
[13:26] <sub[t]rnl> hrm, I think the default runlevel is 2
[13:26] <sub[t]rnl> at least I can't remember changing it..
[13:26] <giu> i modify /etc/event.d/rc.default
[13:27] <giu> put telinit 2 or telinit 3
[13:27] <giu> but nothing happends =(
[13:27] <sub[t]rnl> giu: to change the runlevel, do sudo init 3, or you can remove kdm from /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[13:28] <Jucato> Ubuntu doesn't use the traditional sys v init system
[13:28] <Jucato> !upstart | giu
[13:28] <ubotu> giu: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[13:28] <sub[t]rnl> i c
[13:29] <flithm> hey everyone... I'm having a weird issue with kde + compiz where adept_notifier always comes up with its own window rather than a sys tray icon.  Anyone else seeing this?
[13:29] <genii> init levels 2,3 and 4 on ubuntu are equivelents for a while now
[13:30] <sub[t]rnl> flithm: Yeah I've seen it.  How are you starting compiz?
[13:30] <flithm> sub[t]rnl: __GL_YIELD="NOTHING" compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
[13:31] <sub[t]rnl> flithm: hrm, I assumed --replace fixed it, but I guess not
[13:32] <flithm> yeah not sure what the solution is
[13:35] <giu> thanks
[13:37] <lophyte> ugh.. having troubles moving applets around on my panels, and they're not locked.. :\
[13:37] <Jucato> what troubles?
[13:38] <lophyte> there's no way to move them
[13:38] <Cthuloid> Aren't there handles you can turn on to help move them, lophyte?
[13:38] <lophyte> in Edgy/Feisty there was a small bar on the side of the applet that you could click on to access the applet menu
[13:38] <Jucato> what are you trying to move? some have handles as Cthuloid mentioned
[13:38] <lophyte> yeah, none of mine have handles
[13:39] <lophyte> and I didn't see an option to turn them on
[13:39] <Jucato> right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance -> Advanced options button
[13:39] <lophyte> ugh.. didn't even see the advanced options button
[13:39] <lophyte> cheers
[13:40] <Jucato> applets that are single icons can be easily moved with middle-click + drag
[13:40] <letalis> would there be a way to load gkrellm before kicker? kicker always throws gkrellm out of where i have it setup when it loads
[13:41] <letalis> its a stupid question, but it something that just urks me a little bit
[13:41] <letalis> lol
[13:44] <[ifr0g]> letalis, gkrellm has an option to save placement.
[13:45] <letalis> yeah ive set it and kicker and gkrellm dont play nice what happens is when gkrellm loads it tries to move kicker out of the way whhich kicker moves, but "squishes" out gkrellm
[13:45] <letalis> so i wind up having to put it back in its spot every single time
[13:46] <letalis> its not a super big deal, but itd be nice if theyd both stay put
[13:46] <[ifr0g]> Maybe it would work if you set kicker on auto hide
[13:49] <letalis> thats a possibility
[13:49] <letalis> i may play with the panel placement options and see if that makes a difference
[13:54] <ardchoille> letalis: I use gkrellm and I put an autostart item for it in Autostart. gkrellm always starts up in the sam eposition
[13:55] <[ifr0g]> letalis, got it..
[13:55] <letalis> ardchoille: is yours setup to be treated like a dock?
[13:55] <[ifr0g]> letalis, tick, "allow other windows to cover the panel"
[13:55] <ardchoille> kicker shouldn't have anything to do with where gkrellm is placed, that would be the job of the window mnager
[13:55] <ardchoille> letalis: no
[13:56] <ardchoille> Oh, well, if you want to cover the panel, that's a different story
[13:56] <letalis> well once i move it into position, kicker moves enough to let gkrellm sit right next to it
[13:57] <[ifr0g]> letalis, tick, "allow other windows to cover the panel" and it wont move gkrellm
[13:57] <letalis> but the initial load it attempts to do it itself and kicker shoves out gkrellm from its position
[13:57] <[ifr0g]> In panel configuration
[13:57] <letalis> ok
[13:57] <jussi01> !mp3
[13:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:58] <ardchoille> letalis: That is the way kicker is supposed to act because kicker takes the entire row at the bottom. Unless you tell the window manager to allow windows to cover kicker, as [ifr0g] stated
[13:59] <andrea> I'm running kubuntu festy and i want to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 how can I do this?
[13:59] <andrea> without reinstalling the operating system
[14:00] <ardchoille> !upgrade | andrea
[14:00] <ubotu> andrea: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:03] <ZHANGLEI> hi, everyone
[14:03] <maciek> hi
[14:04] <ZHANGLEI> chould i install ubuntu in vm-ware
[14:04] <andrea> I followed the instructions given here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[14:04] <andrea> but i can't see the dist upgrade dialog
[14:04] <MarcC> How do I fix an "error getting killswitch power" error from Network Manager?
[14:04] <eeanm> is there a list of everything that starts up on boot?
[14:04] <andrea> all kinds of updates are enabled
[14:05] <MarcC> "Error getting killswitch power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported - Access type not supported"
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[14:06] <ardchoille> hi BluesKaj
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> MarcC: your radio can't be turned off..
[14:06] <eeanm> like is there some handy tool to control the daemons
[14:06] <hydrogen> `bum`
[14:06] <webvictim> THE POWER OF INITTAB COMPELS YOU
[14:07] <hydrogen> which is obviously short for boot up manager
[14:07]  * eeanm wonders if hydrogen is serious
[14:07] <MarcC> nosrednaekim: thanks, that's what I figured...how do I fix it?
[14:07] <hydrogen> I actually am
[14:07] <ardchoille> eeanm: I use sysv-rc-conf
[14:07] <MarcC> what is /usr/sbin/nscd used for?
[14:07] <andrea> !upgrade
[14:07] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:07] <christos> anyone knows how to make an intel hd audio sound card work on kubuntu 7.10? i've tried everything I had in mind, but there's still no sound
[14:07] <sedeki> Best coding editor (php, html, python) for KDE?
[14:07] <MarcC> christos: mine works ok
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> MarcC: I'm not good with NM
[14:08] <hydrogen> sedeki: kate
[14:08] <hydrogen> or vim
[14:08] <eeanm> sedeki: kate or kdevelop
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> sedeki: you mean an IDE?
[14:08] <ardchoille> sedeki: kate
[14:08] <sedeki> not an ide
[14:08] <hydrogen> he said editor
[14:08] <hydrogen> not ide
[14:08] <hydrogen> kate
[14:08] <hydrogen> kate kate kate
[14:08] <sedeki> thanks
[14:08] <hydrogen> kate kate kate kate kate
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> sedeki: kate FTW
[14:08] <hydrogen> okay, i'm done!
[14:08] <sedeki> and kate's bundled with kubuntu
[14:08] <ardchoille> ok, no more coffee for hydrogen
[14:08] <sedeki> great
[14:08] <christos> MarcC: in my case, vrything seems ok, but there's no sound
[14:08] <MarcC> kate is OK but it's kinda primitive
[14:08] <eeanm> ardchoille: I doubt it'd help
[14:09]  * genii hides hydrogen's coffeemug
[14:09] <MarcC> christos: tried Alsamixer?
[14:09] <hydrogen> thats okay
[14:09] <hydrogen> thats why I have a bag of crack!
[14:09] <Jucato> pri...mitive???
[14:09] <ardchoille> eeanm: are you wanting to turn on/off daemons that autostart?
[14:09] <hydrogen> eeanm: i told you, use bum bum bum
[14:09] <christos> MarcC: I don't remember if i did, I'll try it...
[14:10] <Jucato> or System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services (a.k.a. serviceconfig)
[14:11] <ardchoille> Jucato: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services . When I click that there is a small window popup that sticks on "0%"
[14:11] <christos> MarcC: I can't find Alsamixer, i found Alsamixergui..... is that the same?
[14:11] <icewaterman> how can i have ubuntu automatically mount an encrypted partition when it is decrypted?
[14:11] <Jucato> ardchoille: weird...
[14:11] <MarcC> christos: that should work fine - alsamixer is run from a terminal window
[14:12] <MarcC> alsamixergui is the same though
[14:12] <icewaterman> i want to use th automounter kubuntu uses
[14:12] <ardchoille> Jucato: yeah, especially since I never install anything that isn't in the repos and I never upgrade
[14:13] <Jucato> ardchoille: it's part of kde-guidance. installed by default
[14:13] <BluesKaj> hi ardchoille, nosrednaekim ...was away for a bit getting some breakfast
[14:13] <Jucato> ardchoille: can you try manually starting it? "serviceconfig"
[14:13] <ardchoille> Jucato: Any way I can fix that?
[14:13] <Jucato> [22:13] <Jucato> ardchoille: can you try manually starting it? "serviceconfig"
[14:13] <Jucato> ardchoille: it might be a bug....
[14:13] <genii> MarcC: Perhaps see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/131835
[14:14] <BluesKaj> christos, type alsamixer in the konsole
[14:14] <genii> !bug 131835
[14:14] <MarcC> which version of network manager should I have in Gutsy?
[14:14] <MarcC> I have 0.2
[14:14] <ardchoille> Jucato: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/42621
[14:14] <genii> !info knetworkmanager gutsy
[14:15] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: KDE systray applet for controlling NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> MarcC: knetoworkmanager chould be .2
[14:15] <MarcC> genii: thanks, I had just found that bug
[14:15] <christos> BluesKaj: i did..... everything looks fine
[14:15] <Jucato> ardchoille: bug report time? :)
[14:15] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, thank you
[14:15] <genii> MarcC:  0.2 looks normal for gutsy
[14:15]  * Jucato makes hot water for tea in the meantime...
[14:15] <MarcC> ok, thanks
[14:15] <BluesKaj> christos, all the ctrls have 00 and no M for mute ?
[14:16] <ardchoille> !bugs
[14:16] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:16] <christos> BluesKaj, yes
[14:17] <genii> Weird I thought ubotu knew about some bugs... once in a while when they are mentioned in casual convo he goes on about it etc
[14:17] <[ifr0g]> !bug
[14:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:17] <BluesKaj> christos, I came in late ...you have no audio ?
[14:17] <genii> [ifr0g]: Specific bugs LOL
[14:18] <christos> BluesKaj, exactly, I've installed kubuntu 2 days ago and i can't find out why I have no audio
[14:18] <chuso> Hi :)
[14:19] <genii> genii: testing etc mentioning bug 131835 also bug #131835 bug number 131835 etc etc
[14:19] <genii> Bah
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> hi chuso
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> christos: what sound card?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> christos, have you set up audio in system settings?  namely this  ; k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[14:19] <huyter> hi guys, did any of you upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?  is it very problematic??
[14:19] <chuso> When I try to send or receive files over kopete through msn protocol it always crashes. As I can see, its a known bug. Is there any workaround to fix it? Thans in advance! :)
[14:19] <chuso> hi nosrednaekim
[14:19] <eeanm> I can't wait for kubuntu to get its new boot system. this bash script hell rc.d stuff is so annoying.
[14:19] <christos> HDA Intel, that's what it sais on alsamixer gui
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> chuso: not sure,I don't use MSN, you might want to ask in #kde
[14:20] <chuso> ok, thank you nosrednaekim!
[14:21] <BluesKaj> chuso, there is AMSN if you think kopete is the culprit
[14:22] <eeanm> or pidgin
[14:22] <[ifr0g]> or...
[14:22] <[ifr0g]> !msn
[14:22] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[14:22] <[ifr0g]> ^^
[14:23] <eeanm> need to update that
[14:23] <christos> BluesKaj, I've done that but still no sound
[14:23] <[ifr0g]> yeah
[14:24] <sedeki> How about a good ftp client?
[14:24] <MarcC> konqueror
[14:24] <eeanm> yea konqueror
[14:24] <spiroo> Is there any solution on the bookmark error: When you quit Dolphin it says, cannot save bookmarks, perimissions denied?
[14:24] <sedeki> how about dolphin?
[14:25] <eeanm> that works too :)
[14:25] <eeanm> spiroo: hrm
[14:25] <MarcC> dolphin does ftp? had no idea
[14:25] <emilsedgh> this is why KDE Rocks!
[14:25] <eeanm> MarcC: it does all the KIO stuff
[14:25] <MarcC> oh, right
[14:25] <spiroo> eeanm: hrm, means you consider a solution or what?
[14:25] <[ifr0g]> !bug 123
[14:26] <genii> bug1
[14:26] <spiroo> !bug1
[14:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <eeanm> spiroo: from your home directory, do sudo chown -R spiroo:spiroo .
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: its because you started it as root once.. so that happens
[14:26] <[ifr0g]> genii, you can only ask for bug num in pm ..
[14:26] <[ifr0g]> Not here :(
[14:26] <eeanm> nosrednaekim: that doesn't really make sense
[14:27] <eeanm> root has its own ~/.kde
[14:27] <genii> [ifr0g]: Weird. i knew it did work tho.
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> eeanm: I mean,as sudo
[14:27] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: What do you mean exactly?
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: if you have ever kdesudo'ed dolphin, thats what happens
[14:27] <eeanm> spiroo: just do what I said, it will probably fix it
[14:28] <The-Compiler> Hi
[14:28] <spiroo> Okay, I go to Konsole and type that or what?
[14:28] <[ifr0g]> hi
[14:28] <eeanm> spiroo: yes
[14:28] <BluesKaj> christos, open kmix and enable Master &PCM on the output tab , thenCD& IEC playback (if listed)in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 are enable in the switches tab , then click on settings /configure kmix and appy
[14:29] <ardchoille> Jucato: Anything I need to put into that bug report besides the konsole output?
[14:29] <spiroo> chown, does not work
[14:29] <eeanm> spiroo: what does that mean
[14:29] <ardchoille> eeanm: root's .kde is nothing but symlinks here
[14:29] <spiroo> It says operation is missing after spiroo:spiroo
[14:30] <eeanm> spiroo: did you put the . ?
[14:30] <spiroo> the dot?
[14:30] <eeanm> yes
[14:30] <BluesKaj> frustrating when ppl won't wait for an answer :(
[14:30] <spiroo> ah okay, now I did, not sure if it worked, but not error XD
[14:30] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: impatience :(
[14:31] <spiroo> Anyway, what did that command exactly do?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> instant gratification is the norm these days
[14:31] <ardchoille> yeah
[14:31] <eeanm> ardchoille: not here
[14:31] <huyter> hi guys, did any of you upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?  is it very problematic??
[14:31] <eeanm> spiroo: if any files were owned by root, it changed them back to being owned by spiroo
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> huyter: fresh install here, but I haven't been hearing many problems
[14:32] <eeanm> huyter: it went fine for me and my friend
[14:32] <spiroo> okay, not sure why that would work, but yea maybe
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> huyter: mostly bad/swamped mirrors
[14:32] <eeanm> lol spiroo
[14:32] <spiroo> huyter: I have same problem, a lot of errors :D
[14:32] <spiroo> For instance, trashcan does not work
[14:33] <spiroo> It did before with development edition XD
[14:33]  * eeanm has a local on-campus mirror
[14:33] <eeanm> 2 mbps downloads :P
[14:33] <ardchoille> Jucato: is /root/.kde/* supposed to be nothing but symlinks? Because that's the way it is here.
[14:33] <huyter> ok, thx for the answers, i'll take the risk
[14:33] <eeanm> ardchoille: do you have a /root/.kde/share ? what does it link to?
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: could be some kdesudo junk..
[14:33] <spiroo> Does anybody know if KDE 4 will solve some bugs in some apps?
[14:34] <eeanm> spiroo: there will be an entirely new set of bugs
[14:34] <eeanm> KDE 4 is mostly rewritten
[14:34] <spiroo> eeanm: haha
[14:34] <ardchoille> eeanm: There is no /root/.kde/share
[14:34] <eeanm> so there won't be the old ones
[14:34] <eeanm> ardchoille: well so you haven't run a kde app as root that needed to store anything
[14:34] <spiroo> eeanm: yes, probably. But for instance, msn in Kopete does not work at all, as I see it anyway
[14:35] <eeanm> I'm not sure what the status of Kopete is in kde 4
[14:35] <ardchoille> eeanm: I have, but it uses my user configs in ~/.kde/*
[14:35] <eeanm> o.O
[14:35] <eeanm> this must be some new trick
[14:35] <spiroo> eeanm: As I have heard they will release Kopete for KDE4, but not sure what that will do in the future.
[14:35] <ardchoille> eeanm: I noticed that when I setup kate as user and then ran kdesu kate and the settings were identical
[14:36] <eeanm> weird
[14:36] <eeanm> permission problems seem likely :)
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: it has to do with KDEsudo
[14:36] <eeanm> I always use just plains sudo I suppose, except for the stuff that runs kdesudo by itself
[14:37] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Ok, I also noticed that when I run konqueror as root, I do't have perms to change anything
[14:37] <ardchoille> !kdesu | eeanm
[14:37] <ubotu> eeanm: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[14:37] <eeanm> yea I know what kdesu is ;)
[14:38] <MarcC> it's a japanese word
[14:38] <eeanm> well desu is
[14:38] <eeanm> dunno about kdesu
[14:38] <MarcC> they should just call it desuka
[14:38] <MarcC> keeps the k
[14:38] <Jucato> O.o
[14:38] <ardchoille> eeanm: kdesu for gui apps, sudo for cli apps
[14:39] <MarcC> kore wa k desu
[14:39]  * Jucato wonders if MarcC is being serious or joking...
[14:39] <eeanm> ardchoille:  "These errors occur because sometimes when sudo launches an application, it launches with root privileges but uses the user's configuration file."
[14:39]  * MarcC isn't as serious as he looks
[14:39] <eeanm> so you must be using sudo
[14:39] <ardchoille> eeanm: I use kdesu for gui apps, sudo for cli apps
[14:39] <Jucato> ardchoille: can you brief me? what's the problem
[14:39] <MarcC> I use gksudo when I want my screen to go dim
[14:40] <Jucato> (provided it's installed)
[14:40] <eeanm> ardchoille: but that doesn't jive with what you said... bah whatever
[14:40] <ardchoille> Jucato: launching "kdesudo 'kfmclient openProfile filemanagement /root'" launches konqueror but with locks on everything, I can't change anything. And /root/.kde/* is nothing but symlinks (no /root/.kde/share)
[14:41] <spiroo> Does anybody know, I think if not sure that it is a hardware problem. Anyway my monitor when I restart sometimes blinks and does not boot OS. Then I wait for awhile and then it works, some kind of overheat I guess somewhere. And sometimes when I watch on movies, the monitor just freeze the image or everything. Then I just have to shut the power off and restart, and the boot problem there again. Very dran annoying. Is
[14:41] <spiroo> there something wrong with my power supply as someone has said before?
[14:41] <Jucato> ardchoille: lemme check. gutsy I presume?
[14:41] <ardchoille> Jucato: yes, Gutsy
[14:42] <spiroo> I wanna know if it is my monitor or something else like Power Supply is getting problem?
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: maybe your graphics card is overheating?
[14:43] <spiroo> Or if it could be a bug in Kubuntu/Ubuntu Core maybe.
[14:44] <ysma> hello, I'm having troubles with X incorrectly "detecting" screen DPI on Gutsy
[14:44] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: Naa I do not think so, not quite convincing that it could be. My graphic card is quite new. Could it be my CPU or something like it, it sounds a lot when it happens, or it could be power supply too.
[14:45] <boguh> how can i use compiz with kubuntu?
[14:45] <ardchoille> !compiz | boguh
[14:45] <ubotu> boguh: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:45] <spiroo> I think when I reboot my Power Supply sometimes does not stabalize the Grpahic Card to send signals to monitor or something like it.
[14:45] <ysma> the strange part is that am able to have a working display only when I kill kdm from the terminal and launch it with startx
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: just cause ts new doesn't mean it can't overheat! what type of card is it?
[14:46] <Jucato> ardchoille: all confirmed. now the problem is, I don't know if it's an intended behavior.
[14:47] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: It is a Nvidia Geforce 7950 GT
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: does it have a fan on it?
[14:47] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: Yes
[14:47] <ardchoille> Jucato: What do you get when you launch: kdesudo 'kfmclient openProfile filemanagement /root'
[14:48] <Jucato> same as you. locked .kde
[14:48] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[14:48] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: I do not think the problem is the Graphic Card, not the hardware anyway. Maybe something else.
[14:48] <ardchoille> Jucato: ty :)
[14:48] <Jucato> and yes, everything in /root/.kde  are symlinks. as they should be I think
[14:49] <nosrednaekim> spiroo: ok then.... but don't rule that out.
[14:49] <strebski> Hello friends! Does anyone knows something about official ubuntu packages of openoffice 2.3 for (k)Ubuntu 7.04?
[14:49] <ardchoille> Jucato: But they weren't symlinks in Feisty, I think that change is due to kdesuo
[14:49] <spiroo> nosrednaekim: huh? "rule that out"?
[14:49] <Jucato> prolly
[14:50] <ardchoille> I'm glad I brought it up, for a moment there I thought my system was screwed.
[14:50] <thomax_> strebski: what about them?
[14:50] <strebski> there will be available? :)
[14:51] <thomax_> uhm no idea, they are present in 7.10 repository
[14:51] <strebski> yes, i know that...
[14:52] <thomax_> strebski: try downloading them there and install them manually
[14:52] <strebski> but i'm looking for ooo 2.3 for 7.04 :)
[14:52] <strebski> from 7.10 reposidory?
[14:52] <thomax_> should work fine as it is java
[14:52] <thomax_> jep
[14:52] <strebski> ok, i'll try, great thanks!
[14:52] <ardchoille> strebski: It's a bad idea to mix repos, if that's what you had in mind.
[14:53] <strebski> nope, i will only dl packages from 7.10 repository (on www)
[14:54] <strebski> and try... :)
[14:54] <ardchoille> strebski: I think you'll end up in dependency hell
[14:54] <strebski> hmm
[14:54] <strebski> whats what is your idea?
[14:54] <strebski> upgrade to 7.10?
[14:55] <ardchoille> That's what I would do before using 7.10 apps in 7.04
[14:55] <ardchoille> Or just be happy with the OO.o in 7.04 ?
[14:56] <randy> gusty upgrade error: been sitting at preparing to configure libexpat1 and got two error boxes about debconf and x11-common. What do I do now. Been stalled for over 2 hours
[14:56] <thomax_> ardchoille: or go to ooo site and download an manually install it
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> randy: kill it and restart from the command line
[14:57] <randy> norednakim, how do it restart it?
[14:57] <strebski> is there a big difference between ooo from ubuntu repository and from official ooo website?
[14:57] <ardchoille> thomax_: that's an idea too
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> randy: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:58] <randy> Thank you, I will try that.
[14:58] <intern> I need to get xfce window system installed
[14:58] <wathek> hello all I've a problem with K3B it says that I've no CD/DVD writer !
[14:59] <ardchoille> intern: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <intern> trhanks
[15:00] <BluesKaj> wathek, insert a dvd or cd , then check system menu/storage media
[15:00] <wathek> ok
[15:02] <wathek> BluesKaj: I've not storage media in system menu
[15:02] <randy> nosrednaekim got lock error, rm lock, ran dpkg --configure -a, completed with error, ran apt-get dist-upgrade stopped with E:Unmet depdencies. Try using -f. Should I?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> wathek, what do you have listed in system menu ?
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> randy: I see,what are there unmet deps for?
[15:03] <wathek> BluesKaj: Adept, dolphin, HPLIP, Kcron
[15:03] <wathek> BluesKaj: keep, kinfocenter, konsol
[15:03] <randy> kipi-plugins, gwenview and digikam
[15:04] <wathek> BluesKaj: ksysguard, ksystemlog and Kubuntu device database
[15:04] <BluesKaj> wathek, I'm referring to the compuer icon in the panel not kcontrol or the k-menu
[15:04] <BluesKaj> compter
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> wathek: everything else installs fine?
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> sorry, randy
[15:05] <BluesKaj> err learn to spel computer
[15:05] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:05] <randy> The original upgrade stoped at 2%, but those are the only erroors I get with apt-get
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: it overused its "spells" last night.....
[15:06] <BluesKaj> wathek, do you see the computer icon in the panel ? click on it
[15:08] <wathek_> BluesKaj: Adept, dolphin, HPLIP, Kcron, keep, kinfocenter, konsol, ksysguard, ksystemlog and Kubuntu device database
[15:08] <BluesKaj> wathek, I repeat ,do you see the computer icon in the panel ? click on it
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> randy: humm, run "apt-cache policy kopete", what version does it say?
[15:08] <Jucato> wathek_: not K Menu -> System
[15:08] <BluesKaj> no
[15:09] <Jucato> wathek_: beside the K Menu icon, there should be a computer icon
[15:09] <wathek_> yes
[15:10] <wathek_> ah ok
[15:10] <wathek_> yes
[15:10] <wathek_> storage media and then ?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:10] <wathek_> I've an icon where it's written blank DVD+R
[15:11] <randy> norednaekim, it says insalled: 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 Candidate: 4.3.5.8-0ubuntu2 Version table: 4.3.5.8-0ubuntu2.0 500 http//archive.ubuntu.com ggutsy/main Packages ***4.3.5.6-0ubuntu29.0 100 /var/lb/dkg/status
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ok walthek, that means your cd/dvd drive is being recognized
[15:11] <BluesKaj> wathek what mades you think that your drive wasn't being seen ?
[15:11] <nosrednaekim> randy: run a -f I guess :)
[15:12] <wathek_> BluesKaj: when I start K3B it says No DVD/CD Wirter found
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> randy: just checking if you have all repositories right and all
[15:12] <nosrednaekim> *i was just checking
[15:12] <gil> hola buen dia. alguien en español
[15:13] <randy> Nosrednaekim, Ok, thanks. I'm runing it now. We'll see what happens
[15:14] <gil> any body know a irc spanis channel?
[15:14] <gil> spanish?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !es
[15:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:15] <Jucato> !es | gil
[15:15] <ubotu> gil: please see above
[15:15] <gil> ok gracias
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> quick q: what's the hdparm command to change the number of boots between hd checks?
[15:18] <BluesKaj> wathek_, hmm, the only thing I can suggest is to try to configure K3B
[15:19] <wathek_> BluesKaj: how N?
[15:19] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop: I think its in the fstab
[15:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> tune2fs is what it was :s
[15:20] <baudthief> ok, I just upgraded to Gutsy and nothing broke (thank god!) However, compiz-fusion wasn't installed by default, I had to install it myself
[15:21] <BluesKaj> wathek , open K3B/settings/configure K3B
[15:21] <baudthief> How do I start it?
[15:21] <Jucato> baudthief: that's normal. compiz was never installed by default on Kubuntu
[15:21] <Jucato> !compiz | baudthief
[15:21] <ubotu> baudthief: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:21] <baudthief> ahh, thanks!
[15:22] <baudthief> went to the trouble of backing up EVERYTHING onto 6 dvd's lol (just in case the upgrade broke my install)
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> tune2fs -c max-mount-counts
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> for anyone who's wondering
[15:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> bye!
[15:25] <nosrednaekim> cya Daisuke_Laptop
[15:25] <baudthief> Jucato: damn, not working :(
[15:26] <baudthief> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42908/
[15:27] <baudthief> I've got a nvidia 7600GS which ran fine under beryl about an hour ago
[15:28] <icewaterman> baudthief: my condolences :)
[15:28] <baudthief> meh
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> baudthief: whats glxinfo giving you?
[15:31] <baudthief> I get this over and over: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[15:31] <baudthief> (also in #compiz-fusion, they said I need to get a new driver)
[15:32] <nosrednaekim> baudthief: are you using the one in restricted-manager?
[15:32] <Black_Monkey> hi, any idea if kde4 beta4 is gonna be in the gutsy repos soon?
[15:32] <baudthief> nosrednaekim: Before upgrading to gutsy, I used the restricted drivers from nvidias website
[15:32] <emilsedgh_> Black_Monkey: if you have a good connection, compile it yourself, thats easy
[15:32] <baudthief> whether or noth thats changed now, I'm not sure
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> baudthief: there is your problem :) you need to reinstall it since you did a kernel upgrade
[15:33] <Black_Monkey> emilsedgh_: my connection is a bit erratic, really need to get a new router...
[15:33] <baudthief> nosrednaekim: any issues with installing the driver on nvidias website? or is there something special I need for gutsy lol
[15:33] <emilsedgh_> Black_Monkey: youre on dialup?
[15:34] <emilsedgh_> Black_Monkey: if no, thats not a problem
[15:34] <Black_Monkey> no, broadband
[15:34] <nosrednaekim> baudthief: its probably easier to install them with the restricted-manager in system-settings
[15:35] <babeck> Does anyone know if there is any plans to release KDE 4 Beta 4 packages on Kubuntu?
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> babeck: there are.
[15:36] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: any sort of idea when?
[15:37] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: probably soon, Riddel was saying something about the build system being slow, prbably the gigantic merges.
[15:38] <Black_Monkey> kk
[15:40] <Buaorchid> !adeptfix
[15:40] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:43] <Buaorchid> help
[15:43] <SeanTater> Buaorchid: state your problem
[15:44] <Buaorchid> I cancled my dist upgrade script... what no?
[15:44] <SeanTater> while it was upgrading?
[15:44] <Buaorchid> now
[15:44] <Buaorchid> ya, downloading
[15:44] <SeanTater> so it had not yet installed anything
[15:44] <SeanTater> ?
[15:45] <davide> ciao a tutti
[15:45] <bazhang> !it
[15:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:46] <SeanTater> Buaorchid: If it did nit get to the "Setting up" part then you have little to worry about
[15:47] <SeanTater> What error are you getting? what does -> apt-get <- return
[15:48] <Buaorchid> apt-get? just the help
[15:48] <spawn57> are you trying to install a package with apt-get?
[15:49] <Buaorchid> nope
[15:49] <Buaorchid> i cancled the upgrade cause net connection broke down, got that back up and running, but don't know what to do
[15:49] <spawn57> oh adept crashed on you?
[15:49] <spawn57> oh
[15:49] <spawn57> do sudo apt-get upgrade *
[15:50] <spawn57> it'll probably tell you to do apt-get -f install ..
[15:50] <Buaorchid> ok
[15:51] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:51] <bazhang> !aptfix
[15:51] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:51] <Buaorchid> is it ok to use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[15:51] <bazhang> from Feisty?
[15:51] <spawn57> that's to get the latest version of ubuntu..
[15:51] <Buaorchid> ya
[15:52] <spawn57> ..if you update your sources.list, go for it
[15:52] <Buaorchid> the script, i think dist-upgrade.py from the net did that, cause i was at the downloading part already
[15:53] <bazhang> !upgrade
[15:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:54] <Buaorchid> thnks, running now
[15:54] <spawn57> np, enjoy =]
[16:10] <methods> how do i run dbus ?
[16:10] <ardchoille> My launchpad page says I am not a member of any teams. How do I join teams?
[16:11] <bazhang> ubuntu teams?
[16:11] <dergringo> Hi
[16:12] <bazhang> hi!
[16:12] <dergringo> Does anybody know a repo that offers cdemu for gutsy?
[16:12] <bazhang> what does cdemu do?
[16:12] <ardchoille> bazhang: Yes, I think that is it
[16:12] <intern> I installed xubuntu-desktop from kubuntu, how do I switch over?
[16:12] <dergringo> bazhang: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[16:13] <bazhang> intern: in the log in screen, you will something marked session; click on it and choose xfce
[16:13] <intern> thanks
[16:14] <bazhang> dergringo: mplayer will do that --watch a bin/cue file.
[16:14] <ben__> hey all
[16:14] <bazhang> heya
[16:15] <ardchoille> bazhang: so it's "ubuntu teams" I need to join?
[16:15] <ben__> i cant mount my ext3 partitions in kubuntu gutsy
[16:15] <ben__> i get the hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 error
[16:15] <bazhang> ardchoille: not sure, will check.
[16:15] <dergringo> bazhang: I know :) But I need cdemu.
[16:15] <ben__> i cant mount my ntfs partition, but not my ext3's
[16:16] <ben__> i mean
[16:16] <ben__> i can mount my ntfs
[16:17] <W8TAH|Class> !mp3
[16:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:17] <bazhang> dergringo: the install instructions seem pretty clear--you need to get the kernel source and then install cdemu youself
[16:17] <ben__> any ideas?
[16:17] <Black_Monkey> I just put in a cd, and it caused my computer to be completely unresponsive, and after rebooting, amarok still won't load, and freezes any program using it when I try to load it :/
[16:17] <ben__> anyone...
[16:18] <bazhang> patience ben__
[16:18] <dergringo> bazhang: I've seen it. I just try to avoid self compiling as long as possible. So I found Kiso in the repos, it'll do the job
[16:18] <ben__> thanks
[16:19] <W8TAH|Class> im familiar with the issues around non free software and patent issues ect - -can someone please point me to the page that tells how to get stuff like online vids etc to play on my new gusty machine
[16:20] <W8TAH|Class> i know theres one out there that ive used in the past - -i just cant find it
[16:20] <bazhang> ardchoille: it seems there are different teams involved--beta testers, and others--which do you wish to join?
[16:20] <unf> hello
[16:21] <unf> im havin some problems installind kde4 from the repositories
[16:21] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: you need to enable the repositories in adept, then fetch updates--alternately, you can go to medibuntu and they have very explicit instructions on how to get that going.
[16:21] <unf> i follow the instructions in kubuntu.org, but it didnt work. i dont have kde.desktop nor startkde in kde4 directory
[16:22] <W8TAH|Class> bazhang: ok --
[16:22] <W8TAH|Class> im searching the wiki for it mediabuntu and not getting hits that are useful
[16:22] <ardchoille> bazhang: Well, I'm good with docs
[16:22] <Vermux> !wiki
[16:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[16:23] <bazhang> ben__: is it an external drive?
[16:23] <ben__> bazhang: no its an internal drive
[16:23] <bazhang> ardchoille: how about nurs..err never mind
[16:24] <ben__> i searched the kubuntu forums, but most of what i found was for external drives
[16:24] <ben__> no real solutions...
[16:24] <bazhang> ben__: what does fdisk -l reveal?
[16:25] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: that's medibuntu
[16:26] <thomas__> can someone help me with an HTML question
[16:26] <ben__> nothing...it doesnt do anything...
[16:26] <bazhang> ardchoille: I believe you want #ubuntu-doc
[16:27] <ben__> weird
[16:27] <unf> anyone can help me?
[16:27] <ardchoille> bazhang: ty
[16:27] <bazhang> from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[16:28] <thomas__> can someone help me with an HTML question please :) ?
[16:28] <bazhang> !ask thomas
[16:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask thomas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:28] <bazhang> oops
[16:28] <thomas__> lol
[16:29] <bazhang> what's the question, thomas_?
[16:30] <Jucato> thomas__: this isn't really the place for learing HTML
[16:30] <bazhang> ben__: is it the disk you are using now?
[16:30] <Jucato> you can try #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic or ##web (not sure if they entertain those questions in the last one)
[16:30] <bazhang> or a second internal disk?
[16:31] <bazhang> can he pm me Jucato?
[16:31] <ben__> yes, the partions that i am trying to mount are on the disk i am currently using
[16:31] <ben__> my ntfs partition that does mount is on another HD
[16:32] <bazhang> ben__: you want to resize the partition?
[16:32] <thomas_> did I laggout ?
[16:33] <bazhang> yup
[16:33] <ben__> i just want to mount my ext3's
[16:33] <thomas_> and I have 4 pictures. I have a table, 3 pictures are horizontally aligned on one row and I have the one picture that I want to align on the second row, but it doesn't align to center....I don't know whats wrong
[16:33] <bazhang> thomas_ pm me
[16:33] <ben__> do i need to resize something?
[16:34] <thomas_> bazhang: shoot, I'm trying, I thought I registered but for some reason today I can't do it
[16:35] <bazhang> google html cheatsheet
[16:36] <bazhang> ben__: if you want to reclaim that drive space for your current partition then I believe so
[16:36] <ben__> no i dont want to do that
[16:36] <ben__> i have 2 other distros i want to keep
[16:36] <ben__> on those partitions
[16:36] <Jucato> bazhang: sure. we have no control over pm's ;)
[16:37] <bazhang> thanks!
[16:37] <bazhang> ben__: and they are not showing up in your grub list?
[16:37] <ben__> i just want to mount them, and everytime i try i get that error...
[16:37] <ben__> yeah they are
[16:37] <ben__> i can boot into them
[16:38] <ben__> i just cant mount them in kubuntu
[16:38] <bazhang> got me there ben__
[16:39] <ben__> ugh...kubuntu is crap if it cant even mount my other linux partitions...
[16:39] <ben__> and nobody seems to have any answers
[16:39] <ben__> for this problem
[16:40] <ben__> i'll try making a forum post i guess
[16:40] <bazhang> ben__: there are answers. just the experts are not here right now.
[16:40] <bazhang> they'll sort you in no time. sorry not to be of any help.
[16:40] <ben__> k, thanks for your help!
[16:40] <[ifr0g]> i got 2 linux part and both ways are mounted, so its not kubuntu.
[16:41] <[ifr0g]> what error did he get ?
[16:41] <bazhang> right. what distros were on the other partitions:linspire and xandros? :}
[16:42] <[ifr0g]> he left ..
[16:43] <bazhang> [ifr0g]: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 error
[16:43] <Fleck> hi all
[16:43] <bazhang> hi!
[16:44] <Fleck> when i type: host www.google.com  - response is sooo slow :(
[16:44] <Fleck> why is that?
[16:44] <Fleck> this happens when i  browse too (looking up...)
[16:44] <bazhang> storm botnet?
[16:44] <bazhang> :}
[16:45] <[ifr0g]> There is a similar problem on ubuntuforums
[16:45] <bazhang> Fleck: I've got really slow internet response of late too, think it's not related to Linux at all
[16:45] <Chris7mas> hi
[16:45] <bazhang> hi!
[16:45] <robby> hi
[16:45] <Fleck> bazhang well, on the same network another box - works great
[16:46] <Fleck> when connection established - works fast
[16:46] <Fleck> only resolving :(
[16:46] <thomas_> bazhang: can you read my pm? does it work?
[16:47] <bazhang> nope
[16:47] <[ifr0g]> Fleck, what if you load 64.233.167.99 in the browser ?
[16:47] <bazhang> thomas_: can you join kubuntu-offtopic channel?
[16:47] <Fleck> [ifr0g] werry fast
[16:47] <Fleck> verry
[16:47] <robby> i just got BSOD with kubuntu :/
[16:48] <[ifr0g]> Blue ???
[16:48] <robby> j/k
[16:49] <robby> i'm trying to figure out a way to log what ports some of my favorite programs use so i can configure my firewall better
[16:49] <robby> is there a way to do this with my firefall program Guarddog?
[16:49] <robby> firewall*
[16:49] <Fleck> [ifr0g] speedtest.net show - speed about 20Mbit/sec
[16:50] <bazhang> wow
[16:50] <[ifr0g]> :o
[16:50] <bazhang> that's slow?
[16:50] <robby> fast
[16:51] <[ifr0g]> Freaking Light Speed :D
[16:51] <bazhang> haha
[16:51] <magneto73> merrrr
[16:52] <Fleck> http://www.speedtest.net/result/198030153.png
[16:52] <Fleck> [ifr0g] but DNS is so slow... :(
[16:52] <Fleck> why is that?
[16:53] <robby> mine was only 5234 kb/s
[16:53] <[ifr0g]> Fleck, you want want to try opendns..
[16:53] <[ifr0g]> Fleck, https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu
[16:54] <bazhang> oy. where is the straight up and down character on my keyboard?
[16:54] <[ifr0g]> !find network-admin
[16:54] <Fleck> [ifr0g] i'm on KDE :)
[16:54] <ubotu> File network-admin found in gnome-system-tools
[16:55] <robby> !hi
[16:55] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:55] <[ifr0g]> Fleck, kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf
[16:55] <Fleck> yeah
[16:55] <Fleck> i tried change dns servers
[16:55] <Fleck> same problem
[16:56] <Fleck> as i told you - neat box works great
[16:56] <[ifr0g]> Then try disabling ipv6
[16:57] <Fleck> [ifr0g] i did that allready too :)
[16:57] <bazhang> thomas__: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:57] <[ifr0g]> 8|
[16:57] <ardchoille> [ifr0g]: /etc/resolv.conf gets rewritten on boot
[16:57] <Fleck> ardchoille you can prepend what you whant :)
[16:58] <unf> im havin some problems installind kde4 from the repositories, i followed the instructions in kubuntu.org, but it didnt work. i dont have kde.desktop nor startkde in kde4 directory.. any idea?
[16:58] <Fleck> at least - you make ir unchangable ;)
[16:58] <[ifr0g]> You can change that in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, ardchoille
[16:58] <ardchoille> true
[16:58] <bazhang> like slash key, but straight--where is it--
[16:59] <Black_Monkey> O_o that speed test gave me 1.4Mb/s, when I'm supposed to have 8Mb/s...
[17:03] <mm_202> hey guys, I just install 7.10 a bit ago.  How do I get the list of windows when I hit alt-tab?  Seems that its disabled in 7.10.
[17:03] <Jucato> System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Show window list while switching windows
[17:04] <mm_202> Jucato: danke sehr
[17:04] <thomas_newbie_> can someone help me, I have an html problem i've been trying to fix for 1 hour
[17:06] <bazhang> thomas_newbie_: #html
[17:06] <thomas_newbie_> I have a webpage with 4 pictures. I have two rows and three pictures on one row and the other picture on the second. I want to align the picture on the second row but it is not working. I tried <td align="center"> but that doesn't work
[17:07] <spine> IRCOP HACK JOIN HERE http://lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139625893
[17:08] <Fleck> spine beidz spamot
[17:09] <Fleck> good job Jucato :)
[17:09] <bazhang> :}
[17:09] <W8TAH|Class> nicely done
[17:09] <sparr_w> I am using compiz-fusion, emerald, kde, and kicker-compiz.  sometimes when i switch windows and/or desktops, a window will appear on the wrong desktop on the pager.  the problem rectifies itself as soon as i switch to another window or desktop.  Is there an explanation for this behavior?
[17:09] <Jucato> 2 minutes late though... dang I'm getting slow..
[17:10] <bazhang> haha not at all
[17:10] <drama1981> so i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop so can have kde and gnome but now i have what appears to be the entire contents of kcontrol under apps/other under gnome. is there anyway to fix this? a logical reason why it ended up like that?
[17:10] <|Toad> can someone help me with lame in k3b?
[17:11] <Jucato> !someone
[17:11] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:11] <Jucato> sparr_w: #compiz-fusion people might know
[17:12] <snake_> does anyone know why the servers are down ??
[17:12] <|Toad> when i try to rip to mp3, it gives me an error, but the error only lists the burner and it's specs, but when i rip ot wav or ogg, it works fine
[17:12] <[ifr0g]> |Toad, sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[17:12] <Jucato> |Toad: does ripping through audiocd:/ in Konqueror work?
[17:12] <Jucato> !info k3b-mp3
[17:12] <ubotu> Package k3b-mp3 does not exist in gutsy
[17:12] <Jucato> :)
[17:13] <[ifr0g]> opps
[17:13]  * Jucato thinks [ifr0g] has the wrong package in mind
[17:13] <Jucato> you're probably thinking of libk3b2-mp3?
[17:13] <bazhang> :0
[17:13] <Jucato> (which is still the wrong package...)
[17:13] <snake_> can anyone give me the default repos ??
[17:14] <snake_> because i am trying to update but no server is working
[17:14] <snake_> i tried with all of them
[17:14] <genii> !source-o-matic|snake_
[17:14] <ubotu> snake_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[17:14] <Jucato> snake_: server is not down for me. perhaps your mirror/server is having  problems. you can switch to another
[17:14] <[ifr0g]> !find k3b-mp3
[17:14] <ubotu> Package/file k3b-mp3 does not exist in gutsy
[17:15] <bazhang> !find lame
[17:15] <ubotu> Found: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)
[17:15] <Jucato> [ifr0g]: you're probably thinking of libk3b2-mp3?
[17:15] <|Toad> Jucato:  i didn't know konqueror could rip
[17:15] <Jucato> |Toad: now you know :)
[17:15] <|Toad> where is it?
[17:15] <[ifr0g]> Jucato, ah, yes
[17:15] <Jucato> |Toad: type audiocd:/ in Konqueror's location bar
[17:15] <Jucato> [ifr0g]: still the wrong package :)
[17:16] <|Toad> when i type audiocd:/ i get a could not read error
[17:16] <Jucato> hm...
[17:16] <bazhang> what is the lame package--I can't stand the suspense :}
[17:16] <Jucato> |Toad: anyway, do you have lame installed?
[17:16] <Jucato> !info lame
[17:16] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB
[17:17] <Jucato> bazhang: ^^^
[17:17] <Jucato> !info libk3b2-mp3
[17:17] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 43 kB, installed size 116 kB
[17:17] <bazhang> thanks Jucato
[17:17] <bazhang> :}
[17:17] <Jucato> this one is only for burning mp3s as audio cd's
[17:17] <unf> im havin some problems installind kde4 from the repositories, i followed the instructions in kubuntu.org, but it didnt work. i dont have kde.desktop nor startkde in kde4 directory.. any idea?
[17:18] <ubuntu_> how can you help me to set up wifi_
[17:18] <ubuntu_> ?
[17:18] <Jucato> !wireless | ubuntu_
[17:18] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:18] <|Toad> damn, i had something from lame installed, but not hte encoder
[17:19] <|Toad> i feel like such a retard running linux after boing in windows for so long
[17:19] <Jucato> well you need lame to rip cd's to mp3 :)
[17:19] <|Toad> well, it showed in in hte k3b list, so i thought i had it installed already
[17:19] <[ifr0g]> Amarok : Insert your CD, then click on "Play Audio CD" in the menu. The File-Browser will come up and show a tree with several folders. For normal ripping, go to the "wav" folder, select some tracks and drag them to the desired destination in a Konqueror window. For automatic encoding, drag files from the "mp3" or "ogg" folder instead.
[17:19] <Jucato> still needs lame though :)
[17:20] <[ifr0g]> CD-ripping (amarok) requires the "AudioCD KIO-slave" to be installed. It is part of KDE-Multimedia.
[17:20] <Jucato> (which should be installed by default afaik....)
[17:21] <[ifr0g]> Nope, not installed here on a fresh install.
[17:21] <bazhang> I had to add it too
[17:21]  * genii hands Jucato a coffee and sips one himself
[17:22] <Jucato> genii: I have to pass. about to sleep in 5 minutes
[17:22] <Jucato> really? weird...
[17:22] <Jucato> !rip
[17:22] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[17:22] <genii> Ah OK
[17:22] <[ifr0g]> !grip
[17:22] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[17:23] <[ifr0g]> Gosh, there are too many ways..
[17:23]  * Jucato fires up vbox to verify...
[17:23] <drama1981> so i did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop so can have kde and gnome but now i have what appears to be the entire contents of kcontrol under apps/other under gnome. is there anyway to fix this? a logical reason why it ended up like that?
[17:23] <ubuntu_> how can I find information about set up wifi in kubuntu?
[17:23] <sub[t]rnl> use the link Jucato gave you
 ubuntu_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> drama1981:  its possible you may want to set some kde settings under gnome.
[17:24] <ubuntu_> thank you
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> its getting these days  theres so much stuff in the menus...
[17:25] <Jucato> [ifr0g], bazhang: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins is installed by default on a Kubuntu system
[17:25] <drama1981> Dr_Willis:  ok ty. that makes sense. it was just strange because it wasnt that way in fiesty plus i thought i would just get one entry that says kcontrol enstead of an entry for each setting
[17:25] <onialb> can someone help me with an adept problem because i try to select best server but it doesnt check the servers. maybe theres a problem with the internet connection. i am connected and i have configured the dns in resolv.conf but adept stays at 0% waiting
[17:26] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: I gotta ask. Are you a professor? ^__^
[17:26] <bazhang> thanks Jucato
[17:26]  * Dr_Willis is a Dr of LOVE
[17:26] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: *grins* nice.
[17:27] <sub[t]rnl> dont you fall for it Alonea
[17:27] <Alonea> anyway, why is Adept so screwy in gusty? I can't get into it half the time. Says process is already being used type thing
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Got my Degree in Loveology.
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> I always just install/use synaptic .. adept has issues.
[17:27] <bazhang> !aptfix
[17:27] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:27] <Alonea> sub[t]rnl: well, unless Dr_Willis is a sexy nurse, not much for me to fall for.
[17:28] <sub[t]rnl> hehe
[17:28] <drama1981> like i get adblock, audio cd's, audio encoding, browser id, cdrom info, ect,ect. each as a seperate entry thats why it struck me as strange. its not a big deal though i can live with that was jsut curious i guess
[17:28] <onialb> can someone help me with an adept problem because i try to select best server but it doesnt check the servers. maybe theres a problem with the internet connection. i am connected and i have configured the dns in resolv.conf but adept stays at 0% waiting
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> drama1981:  cant say that vive seen that. But the menus are generated i belive from allthe .desktop entrys in the proper dirs. So may just be how they are laid out.
[17:29] <Alonea> bazhang: hopefully that will fix it...it does it all the time.
[17:29] <bazhang> Alonea: hope so too
[17:30] <drama1981> Dr_Willis:  thats true. at first i didnt know what they all were then i opened a few of em and i was like ok thats kcontrol all split up instead of being in one program
[17:30] <onialb> can someone help me with an adept problem because i try to select best server but it doesnt check the servers. maybe theres a problem with the internet connection. i am connected and i have configured the dns in resolv.conf but adept stays at 0% waiting
[17:30] <Alonea> bazhang: well, its unlocked, but whether it stays that way is another question. *glares at computer*
[17:31] <bazhang> drama1981: sounds like the kbfx menu (replacement for kmenu)
[17:31] <drama1981> aside from that though my menus seem way more organized than they did in fiesty so thats a plus:)
[17:32] <bazhang> Alonea: had that problem early on, then just seemed to go away--no idea why though :}
[17:32] <Alonea> bazhang: sounds about right. in the terminal it complained a bit about java and I told it to bite me...
[17:33] <drama1981> bazhang:  umm it might me idk i just thought it was kcontrol. when ever i open any of them it says configure-kde control module at the top
[17:33] <bazhang> Alonea: which java?
[17:33] <matthias__> problem with microphone/sb5.1: hearing myself through boxes (without delay, think no acoustic feedback), independent on running programs
[17:34] <Alonea> bazhang: sun-java6. I gotta have sun for eclipse. that GCJ or whatever it is, should die a painful death
[17:34] <bazhang> drama1981: it surely is kcontrol, just split up
[17:34] <bazhang> Alonea: ok. the non sun one causes serious probs
[17:35] <Alonea> bazhang: yeah, why are they putting it as default in gusty?
[17:35] <drama1981> thats what i though. oh well though im just thrilled im machine works smoothly and my menus arent a total mess like they were when i did it in fiesty (apps not working, in the wrong categories ect) :)
[17:35] <|Toad> crap, he just lefp
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> drama1981:  in the kde menus some where - they are all split up also. :) since they are seperate apps. the kcontroll thing just sort of merges them under one launcher
[17:36] <bazhang> Alonea: not sure, but it should roast in the hot place
[17:37] <drama1981> Dr_Willis:  ahh ic. ive never noticed it before but then i dont do much in kde myself my gf uses kde more than i do
[17:37] <Alonea> bazhang: indeed. Sun is our friend.
[17:38] <matthias__> problem with microphone/sb5.1: hearing myself through boxes (without delay, think no acoustic feedback), independent on running programs
[17:38] <bazhang> Alonea: no doubt. :}
[17:38] <ubuntu_> how can I find manual of kubuntu?
[17:38] <drama1981> another question. any clue why the usplash (boot splash) isnt set correctly? i had to manually change it
[17:38] <bazhang> kubuntu.org?
[17:40] <W8TAH|Class> ive been doing the reading suggested earlier etc re: medibuntu and non free vs free software etc.  what do i need to enable youtube video to play?
[17:41] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: that would be the partner repos in adept
[17:41] <W8TAH|Class> ok -- cool
[17:41] <W8TAH|Class> what should i be installing out of them -- its flash player, right?
[17:42] <frojnd> any other suggestions why I can't get back to login screen after I've installed ati restricted drivers and also xserver-xgl (I have mobility x1400) ??
[17:42] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: then install the flash non-free plugin for Firefox? or Konqueror?
[17:42] <W8TAH|Class> ok -- cool
[17:42] <W8TAH|Class> thanks
[17:42] <drama1981> frojnd: you mean x isnt working your stick in a shell?
[17:42] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: be sure to fetch updates before adding the kde-restricted package
[17:42] <bazhang> err installing
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:42] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[17:43] <frojnd> drama1981, sord of I mean there is a menu for login name and password but it newer won't come back. So I'm forced to backup my xorg.conf
[17:43] <bazhang> oops
[17:43] <methods> anyone try google desktop ?
[17:43] <letalis> have the framebuffer console bugs been fixed since the beta?
[17:43] <W8TAH|Class> bazhang: not a problem
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> i find google desktop annoying under windowes. :) hate to try it under linux . Heh
[17:44] <bazhang> W8TAH|Class: and get miro as well--to save youtube
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> Picassa works decenmtly well under linux for me
[17:44] <drama1981> frojnd: ok best thing i can say is to reconfigure x. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> I haventy got Miro working yet under Ubuntu.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> !miro
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <drama1981> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[17:44] <methods> idk man it installed and i only really have a search box... i mean its up to you how you setup gd... i like some of their widgets....
[17:45] <bazhang> miro and miro-data, or democracyplayer
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> when kde4 gets out.. the widget world will get tossed on its head. :)
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> heh
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> !find miro
[17:45] <ubotu> Found: miro, miro-data
[17:45] <bazhang> haha
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> well it IS in there. :)
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> i was trying the source
[17:46] <methods> why is that ?
[17:46] <bazhang> can't live without it
[17:46] <Alonea> what do you do if you need to kill a process, but it says I don't have permissions? (on the ctrl+Esc thing)
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Alonea:  use the shell and 'sudo kill PID' of the process
[17:47] <methods> Dr_Willis:  ?
[17:47] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: alright. the pid is the 4 digit number?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Alonea:  yep.
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep PROGRAMNAME   is normally how i get the pid.
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> if it has a gui/window showing you may want to try the 'xkill' command
[17:48] <methods> whats gonna happend in k4 ?
[17:48] <bazhang> where is the character after ps aux located?
[17:49] <frojnd> drama1981, I have laptop and tehre are some settigs for mice: /dev/input/mice, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttyS0, /dev/tts0, /dev/gpmdata, what should I choose if I had laptop and I use laptop mice ?
[17:49] <bazhang> ooh. found it!
[17:49] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: alright thanks. that worked and now Eclipse will load rightr
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> its possible the program left som e sort of lock file somewhere.
[17:49] <thomas_newbie_> we don't have nautilus in ubuntu right?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive never used Eclipse
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> the gnome file manager is nautilus
[17:50] <thomas_newbie_> because I want to enable my trash can
[17:50] <bazhang> dolphin and konqueror thomas_newbie_
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> You can have a trashcan on the panel
[17:51] <drama1981> frojnd: honestly i dont know since i only use desktop. if i had to guess i would say either psaux or gpmdata
[17:51] <drama1981> someone else here may know better though
[17:52] <frojnd> drama1981, I have laptop and tehre are some settigs for mice: /dev/input/mice, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttyS0, /dev/tts0, /dev/gpmdata, what should I choose if I had laptop and I use laptop mice ?
[17:52] <frojnd> I have laptop and tehre are some settigs for mice: /dev/input/mice, /dev/psaux, /dev/ttyS0, /dev/tts0, /dev/gpmdata, what should I choose if I had laptop and I use laptop mice ?
[17:52] <frojnd> mistype
[17:53] <drama1981> let me see if i can find out 4 sure. brb
[17:53] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: Eclipse is not a file manager...Its what I use to compile and write my java and c/c++ code
[17:54] <thomas_newbie_> bazhang: yea but I want it on my desktop
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> Alonea:   that was an answer to thomas_newbie_  :)
[17:55] <gerro> when you install k3b for first time it asks about installing some sort of plugin to handle audio cds
[17:55] <gerro> what is that plugin?
[17:55] <thomas_newbie_> Dr_Willis: i want the trash can on my desktop though
[17:56] <gerro> if someone minds reinstalling k3b for me and finding out I would much appreciate it :)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> thomas_newbie_:  good luck. I normally remove all icons from my desktop. I find the trashcan there to be useelss.. since its always covered up. :)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> thomas_newbie_:  theres some settings somewhere for that.
[17:56] <thomas_newbie_> Dr_Willis: yea can't find it :S
[17:57] <bazhang> gerro: do you want to rip CDs to mp3?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> thomas_newbie_:  im not even in KDE so i cant  look for ya
[17:57] <Alonea> Dr_Willis: yeah..ignore me..hypoglycemic and crashing. in class so thus no food for another hour.
[17:57] <pvdwlaptop> are there KDE4 beta 4 packages for kubuntu ?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> I even set up XP now with a Trashcan on the Panel. Its MUCh better to have it there. :)
[17:58] <bazhang> !kde4
[17:58] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> darn - i go to work in 2 min.. :(
[17:58] <gerro> bazhang: I just want to know that audio plugin k3b asks about when you first install it because brasero and similar burning programs use it but don't specify they do
[17:59] <bazhang> !info lame
[17:59] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB
[18:00] <gerro> bazhang: thanks! owe you one man, anything you need help with?
[18:00] <bazhang> gerro: better computer?
[18:00] <crolle17> i have changed to user by: sudo su postgres; then i typed my password and i was user postgres. but when i want to change back to me (user) the password of user postgres is wanted... but i don't knw the password for user postgres. how can i change back to me?
[18:00] <crolle17> know
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> crolle17:  just 'exit
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> crolle17:  just 'exit'
[18:01] <pvdwlaptop> crolle17:  ctrl + D is a keyboard shortcut
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> your wai will get nested su's
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> or logout
[18:01] <crolle17> Dr_Willis, o.k. thank you.
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> bye all.........
[18:01] <crolle17> pvdwlaptop, thankx
[18:01] <bazhang> bye
[18:07] <thomas_newbie_> seriously i can't figure out how to put the trash bin on the desktop
[18:07] <pay> is there somebody who got kde4 beta4 on a kubuntu system running successfully?
[18:08] <Kr4t05> Does Gutsy have NTFS-3G installed/enabled by default?
[18:09] <bazhang> !info ntfs-3g
[18:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[18:09] <gerro> Kr4t05: some sort of ntfs support built into the kernel by default, try doing menuconfig in the kernel source and reviewing what options are selected for file systems
[18:09] <gerro> ah so it is a loadable module in the repository
[18:09] <Kr4t05> gerro: I know read-only support exists.
[18:10] <gerro> you can write to ntfs too
[18:10] <gerro> its pretty stable now
[18:10] <Kr4t05> Nevermind, I have it
[18:11] <b0nn> bazhang: I installed gutsy :)
[18:11] <bazhang> b0nn: yay!
[18:11] <b0nn> lol
[18:12] <b0nn> after the upgrade mess my only option was a fresh install
[18:12] <thomas_newbie_> seriously i can't figure out how to put the trash bin on the desktop, anyone know how?
[18:12] <bazhang> b0nn: buy some 4G usb keys and back up this time!
[18:12] <b0nn> unfortunately not an option
[18:13]  * b0nn pleads poor student status
[18:13] <bazhang> dvd-r's?
[18:13] <b0nn> no dvd burner
[18:14] <jussi01> hmmm, when I am opening or closing windows the system makes a sound, how can I stop this?
[18:14] <jpatrick> b0nn: put /home on another partition
[18:14] <bazhang> jussi01: disable system sounds
[18:14] <b0nn> jpatrick: indeed thats what I did this time
[18:15] <jussi01> bazhang: where... (ive tried)
[18:15] <jpatrick> b0nn: hmm, it should be a MUST for all installs :(
[18:15] <b0nn> jpatrick: The problem for the installer is howmuch spac to apportion
[18:16] <b0nn> grr wheres the damn typing tutor!
[18:17] <bazhang> jussi01: in system notifications
[18:17] <b0nn> at any rate, Im finding the kde on gutsy to be better than I thought
[18:17] <bazhang> jussi01: in sound and multimedia
[18:18] <flick> kRfb (Desktop Sharing) i sucking my CPU... it's always at 100%
[18:19] <flick> can i do anything to make it work better?
[18:19] <bazhang> jussi01: find it?
[18:20] <flick> gnome's vino does not have this problem
[18:20] <flick> x11vnc+vnc4server do not have this problem
[18:20] <flick> i'm sorry to say, KDE Desktop Sharing sucks
[18:20] <flick> literally.
[18:22] <pvdwlaptop> flick:  indeed, i cant get it to work here
[18:23] <flick> pvdwlaptop, in case you need desktop sharing, this how to helped me to replace the buggy software: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196572
[18:24] <flick> with x11vnc and vnc4server which work much much better
[18:25] <eagles0513875> sup guys im really enjoying the linux games that work with open gl enabled video cards
[18:25] <flick> ok great, i've apt-get removed the krfb crap, let me reboot to clwan sweep its filth
[18:28] <Materials> Hi, can comeone tell me how to set restrictions on user passwords?  I'd like to lower them
[18:35] <mrukus> whats wrong with this command splashimage=(hd0)/dev/sda/boot/grub/EnterLinux.xpm.gz
[18:36] <mrukus> brb if this doesn't work
[18:37] <nerino> how can I modify dekstop theme in Kubuntu=?
[18:37] <nerino> is a KDE desktop or Gnome?
[18:38] <dos> in kubuntu is KDE :P
[18:38] <dos> gnome is in ubuntu...
[18:38] <nerino> ok
[18:39] <nerino> when I modify the theme is more difficult then modify only the image of dektop?
[18:40] <Chris7mas> nerino in kde alt+f2 and run kcontrol then go to appearance and style
[18:40] <dos> nerino: you can find everything you want in KControl :P
[18:40] <Chris7mas> and change it from there
[18:40] <Chris7mas> also apt-cache search kde styles and install them
[18:40] <pay> is there somebody who got kde4 beta4 on a kubuntu system running successfully?
[18:41] <Chris7mas> i just have a fresh gutsy install and don't want to mess it :)
[18:41] <pay> :)
[18:41] <flick> i got rid of krfb and using x11vnc now, which works without breaking a sweat
[18:41] <Chris7mas> btw, does anybody know if kde4 will ship in 8.04?
[18:41] <dos> kde4 beta 4? i heard only about beta 3 :/
[18:41] <pay> i think so when will 8.04 be released?
[18:41] <flick> yeah kde4... i'm hoping i'd get it as an update on gutsy?
[18:42] <Chris7mas> it appeared for a couple of days dos
[18:42] <mneisen> hi, I for the fglrx driver to work on my X1600, but still have a 1280x1024 resolution instead of 1680x1050. Could anybody give me a pointer to the solution?
[18:42] <dos> 2 days ago... i didn't know about it :D
[18:42] <Chris7mas> dos wait
[18:42] <Chris7mas> give u link
[18:43] <Chris7mas> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta4.php
[18:43] <dos> i know yet, i found it on dot.kde.org :P
[18:43] <Chris7mas> also there is a thread in the cafe
[18:43] <pay> debian has a kde4 beta 4 live cd, suse too but kubuntu not :(
[18:43] <Chris7mas> it does?
[18:44] <Chris7mas> debian? maybe i should try it if it's live
[18:44] <pay> wait a sec i will send you the link
[18:44] <pay> http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4livecd.html
[18:46] <Chris7mas> thank you
[18:46] <cthomas> I have a weird problem with Kubuntu 7.10. If I run alsamixer, it tells me it cannot find the file libasound_module_ctl_plug.so // checked the whole system and the file is missing - anyone came across this?
[18:47] <Chris7mas> downloading right now
[18:47] <zyp1> And we should have a "upgrade kde4 beta3 to kde4 beta4" on kubuntu
[18:47] <flick> how do i setup the login screen?
[18:47] <flick> ahh sorry i think i found it
[18:47] <Chris7mas> yes i think i did on a cmedia5838 card cthomas
[18:48] <flick> there's an advanced tab in the system settings
[18:48] <Chris7mas> but finally it worked, i don't remember how
[18:48] <nerino> #part Kubuntu
[18:48] <Chris7mas> try with modprobe *
[18:48] <cthomas> chris7mas you mean this is card-related? the driver is snd-intel-hda...
[18:48] <Chris7mas> or install modconf and try to select a driver from there
[18:48] <Chris7mas> i really don't know further more
[18:49] <MarcC> anybody use StyleClock? I made a theme and I'm wondering how I share it out with t3h int3rn3t
[18:49] <cthomas> but this is a lib-file and the sound actually works...
[18:51] <Chris7mas> did you try with amixer?
[18:51] <thomas_newbie_> I can't figure out how to get my trash can icon on my KDE desktop
[18:51] <pay> Chris7mas, maybe you can post some feedback here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599272 when using beta 4 :)
[18:51] <cthomas> same error
[18:51] <Chris7mas> i will after i'll try it
[18:52] <ScorpKing> i tried 7.10 today. it's to slow to be useable on my laptop. i gues 640Mhz and 302MB ram is not enough. i also got "file protocal died" and "media protocal died" after login. for now i will have to stick to 7.04 i guess. i do love all tha changes in 7.10 tho. :-D
[18:52] <koomi> morning
[18:52] <Chris7mas> kind of old pc ScorpKing
[18:53] <ScorpKing> i know.
[18:53] <MarcC> http://www.friendlyskies.net/sov_dive_cap.png
[18:53] <pay> ok thx
[18:53] <MarcC> soviet dive watch theme for styleclock
[18:53] <MarcC> made in inkscape
[18:54] <koomi> nice.
[18:54]  * Chris7mas back to mash
[18:54] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42932/
[18:54] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: make a file on your desktop and call it Trash
[18:55] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: put that in the file ^
[18:56] <sddds> hey guys. i am trying to install kubuntu on virtual pc 2007 and but it hangs as soon as i select the install option.
[18:56] <koomi> is there a "release schedule" for the kubuntu's kde betas/rc's?
[18:59] <ScorpKing> MarcC: very nice. :-D is there a a possibility that i can get the SVG file? i would like to see how it is done. ;)
[18:59] <cthomas> could anyone do me a favour and try to run alsamixer on his installation of Gutsy and tell me if it returns an error?
[19:02] <analfabeta> i help kubuntu torrent yesterday (in 24h): http://even.archlinux-br.org/things/snap3.png
[19:03] <sddds> hey guys. i am trying to install kubuntu on virtual pc 2007 and but it hangs as soon as i select the install option.
[19:03] <sddds> i have disabled the quiet splash option and don't know what to make of the errors
[19:04] <ScorpKing> analfabeta: that was helpfull. thanks.
[19:04] <analfabeta> =]
[19:04] <ScorpKing> sddds: maybe explain the errors
[19:04] <wesley> how can i install java
[19:06] <MarcC> ScorpKing: sure, I need to clean things up first and release the theme. If you want to give me your contact details I'll hook you up.
[19:06] <sddds> ScorpKing: sure
[19:06] <ScorpKing> MarcC: can i pm you?
[19:06] <MarcC> sure ScorpKing, that's fine
[19:07] <sddds> ScorpKing: when i disable the quiet splash option the last line it hangs at is:  checking if image is initramfs...
[19:08] <ScorpKing> sddds: did you check if the disk is faulty?
[19:08] <sddds> ScorpKing: before that it says that ioport range 0x400-some number (several lines(has been reserved)
[19:08] <zyp1> koomi,dos,pay: I guess we just have to wait for kde4b4... :-) no idea when...
[19:08] <sddds> ScorpKing: this is an installation from an iso
[19:08] <sddds> ScorpKing: but i do have a disk with it and ican test the disk
[19:09] <ScorpKing> sddds: get the md5sum of the disk and compare it with the one from the iso
[19:09] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: what kind of file?
[19:09] <sddds> ScorpKing: how do i find the md5 sum?
[19:09] <b0nn> whats the name of the codec package I need to install for windows codecs?
[19:10] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: text or plain file
[19:10] <ScorpKing> sddds: md5sum <device or file>
[19:11] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: ok that only points to the folder trash:/, and i can't delete off the desktop
[19:11] <sddds> ScorpKing: that's not a valid command within a windows terminal prompt
[19:11] <sddds> ScorpKing: is it?
[19:11] <ScorpKing> sddds: lol. no
[19:12] <ScorpKing> sddds: you will have to download md5sum for windows. google for it
[19:12] <sddds> ScorpKing: that's what i was thinking
[19:13] <flick> help, please, when i apply the Konsole schemes nothing happens.
[19:13] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: i don't understand. that will create a trash icon on the desktop. what can you not delete?
[19:14] <thomas_newbie_> no it creates a text file that links to the trash directory and I from there have to delete the files
[19:14] <edo_> hola amigos!!!
[19:15] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: .
[19:15] <ScorpKing> hm..?
[19:15] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: look up
[19:15] <ScorpKing> ok
[19:17] <UltranOOb> Hey everyone
[19:17] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: that is the function of trash. if you want to delete it straight press shift+delete and it will not go to trash.
[19:17] <UltranOOb> how do I mount a fat32 partition in kubuntu??
[19:18] <UltranOOb> anyone has any idea if this can be done at all??
[19:19] <sddds> ScorpKing: its being a pain in the ass to find a program that will check the sum
[19:19] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: so will the files delete after a certain amount of time?
[19:19] <sddds> ScorpKing: especially if you don't have a checksum file already
[19:19] <ScorpKing> sddds: one sec
[19:19] <aks44> hi there, does anyone know how I can force X to use specific DPI values in Xorg.conf (like the --dpi 100 command line switch, but in the .conf)?
[19:19] <sddds> ScorpKing: no prob
[19:20] <UltranOOb> no one knows?
[19:20] <ScorpKing> UltranOOb: one sec
[19:20] <UltranOOb> thx ScorpKing
[19:20] <ScorpKing> sddds: i will google for it just now..
[19:20] <lander> hello back
[19:21] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: i'm not sure. maybe ask someone else or google.
[19:21] <ScorpKing> what happened to Ultran00b?
[19:22] <PatientnOOb> Still here
[19:22] <PatientnOOb> ;)
[19:22] <ScorpKing> o ok.
[19:22] <ScorpKing> lol
[19:22] <ScorpKing> !fat
[19:22] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[19:22] <Ultran00b> thx ScorpKing
[19:23] <ScorpKing> np
[19:23] <flick> help, please, when i apply the Konsole schemes nothing happens.
[19:23] <aks44> does anyone know how I can force X to use specific DPI values in Xorg.conf (like the --dpi 100 command line switch, but in the .conf)?
[19:23] <ScorpKing> sddds: http://etree.org/md5com.html
[19:24] <ScorpKing> flick: you have to apply the setting after you have changed it.
[19:24] <sddds> ScorpKing: thank you
[19:24] <ScorpKing> np
[19:25] <flick> ScorpKing, thank you
[19:25] <ScorpKing> np
[19:25] <ScorpKing> flick: did it work?
[19:26] <flick> yes i realized what you said; i have to select the scheme from Settings->Schema but what i was doing is just editing the scheme
[19:26] <flick> thank you
[19:26] <ScorpKing> hehe. that one kept me busy for a while as well. ur welcome. :)
[19:27] <lg188> hello
[19:28] <ubuntu> kubuntu 7.10 install hangs at 82% scanning mirror --- someone pls help
[19:28] <lg188> is waltzingalong here ?
[19:28] <ScorpKing> hiya lg188!
[19:28] <ScorpKing> nope. he might be later
[19:28] <lg188> ScorpKing wasup
[19:28] <lg188> ScorpKing kk ty^^
[19:28] <flick> ubuntu, did you try a different mirror?
[19:29] <zicks> how do i change that ?
[19:29] <ScorpKing> !sources
[19:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:29] <zicks> i can change it on the live install cd ?
[19:29] <flick> on this matter, if i use Adept and Manage Repositories, and select 'Find best server' it seems to crash Adept
[19:30] <ScorpKing> zicks: you should be able to
[19:30] <lg188> ow euhm... world aof warcraft is d/l on kubuntut 6.10
[19:30] <lg188> world of warcraft*
[19:30] <zicks> is that through adept ?
[19:32] <flick> how can i find out the best server?
[19:32] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: you could add a cron job to delete the trash after a few days if you want.
[19:33] <zicks> ScorpKing - on live CD where do I change mirrors pls
[19:33] <ScorpKing> zicks: same as on the normal installed system. /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:34] <zicks> thanks
[19:34] <lg188> ow euhm... world of warcraft is downloadaebel on kubuntu 6.10?
[19:34] <aks44> does anyone know how I can force X to use specific DPI values in Xorg.conf (like the --dpi 100 command line switch, but in the .conf)? X doesn't correctly detect my screen DPI when it boots up, so I end up with totally unsuseable giant fonts. I found that the --dpi 100 switch solved the problem from the terminal, but now I need to have it working at boot time...
[19:35] <zicks> ScorpKing - there are no mirrors - what should i do ?
[19:35] <ScorpKing> aks44: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Set_DPI_(Dots_Per_Inch)
[19:36] <ScorpKing> zicks: the file is empty?
[19:36] <aks44> thanks ScorpKing
[19:36] <ScorpKing> np
[19:36] <zicks> 2 lines deb http and deb-src
[19:37] <ScorpKing> zicks: i will pastebin mine and the you can work from that.
[19:37] <zicks> ok thanks
[19:40] <ScorpKing> zicks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42939/
[19:41] <ScorpKing> lg188: still installing games? lol
[19:41] <ScorpKing> zicks: after you have changed it run sudo apt-get update
[19:42] <MilesG> Gunirus: hi, its 4
[19:43] <ScorpKing> lg188: google for cedega. it's for playing games in linux
[19:44] <zicks> I dont have write access -  cant save itwhat should I do ?
[19:44] <ScorpKing> zicks: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:44] <zicks> thanks
[19:45] <lg188> ScorpKing jep
[19:46]  * ScorpKing sips his coffee..
[19:46] <k0nd0r> buenas tardes
[19:47] <k0nd0r> podeis recomendarme un soft, servidor de mensajeria instantanea?
[19:47] <MilesG> !es | k0nd0r
[19:47] <ubotu> k0nd0r: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:48] <ScorpKing> has anyone here made a custom usplash image that works? i just get text no matter what i do and when i put the kubuntu usplash back it works again.
[19:50] <wesley> how can in install java ? sudo apt-get install ?
[19:51] <ScorpKing> wesley: sudo aptitude search java and see what is available
[19:52] <wesley> aptituded crash always when install java
[19:52] <thomas_newbie_> omg lol you can't convert decimal to binary using speedcrunch calculator?
[19:52] <doneill_> why would you need a calculator, heh
[19:52] <lg188> kk
[19:53] <ScorpKing> lol @ doneill_
[19:53] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: there is kcalc
[19:53] <doneill_> isn't that even simpler than speedcrunch?
[19:53] <kalorin> so question
[19:53] <kalorin> gimp 2.4.1 is out now
[19:53] <kalorin> when would you expect to see it show up for autoupdate?
[19:54] <kalorin> since 2.2.something is what's installed for me
[19:54] <ScorpKing> wesley: find the package and install it with apt-get
[19:54] <doneill_> kalorin: depends, i think that package is a tourist from Debian still
[19:54]  * lg188 going to .........
[19:54] <doneill_> kalorin: if you want to ask the guys responsible, it's probably masters of the universe
[19:54] <kalorin> according to gimp it says ubuntu/debian packages on the download page
[19:54] <doneill_> #ubuntu-motu or somesuch
[19:54] <doneill_> hm
[19:55] <doneill_> let me check here
[19:55] <level1> hi guys, I have school network.  My internet works well on the wifi network, but whenever I'm on the people around me start having problems
[19:55] <ScorpKing> kalorin: then just download it from there and install
[19:55] <level1> is there a way I can check if anything's wrong?
[19:55] <doneill_> still showing 2.2 here, but i'm still on feisty, heh
[19:55] <ScorpKing> same here
[19:56] <doneill_> level1: lots of ways, the best being tcpdump on the router.
[19:56] <doneill_> level1: the first thing i'd check for is an ip conflict
[19:56] <thomas_newbie_> ScorpKing: so I have to install it ey
[19:56] <level1> doneill_: I don't have access to the router, only my own computer
[19:56] <level1> doneill_: how do I do that?
[19:57] <ScorpKing> thomas_newbie_: if you dont have it yes. it's a very nice calculator btw. ;)
[19:57] <doneill_> level1: compare the assigned IP addresses.
[19:57] <doneill_> if they're both x.x.x.12, well, there's your problem.
[19:57] <kalorin> if you pull a package manually and install it, does that mess with the updater or is there any real difference that might mess up anything doing that?
[19:57] <level1> doneill_: you mean between me and my freinds?
[19:57] <kalorin> other than the package was made by someone else so you'd obviously run the risk of them adding something to it or whatever
[19:58] <doneill_> no, between your PC and your friends' PCs.
[19:58] <level1> yeah
[20:00] <level1> its not a conflict
[20:07] <Les_Caesars> how do I make KDE mount my drives on startup?
[20:07] <dr2> how do I check if I am running LILO?
[20:08] <ScorpKing> Les_Caesars: add them to /etc/fstab
[20:08] <kalorin> is there an upgrade path from 7.04 to 7.10?
[20:08] <kalorin> last time the updater said that there were updates available for 6.10 that i was running and it basically worked
[20:08] <kalorin> now i'm not seeing updates really anymore
[20:13] <SalsaDoom> Hi fellas. Anyone ever used Kontact to connect to Citadel/UX?
[20:20] <alexander> can some one help me with a problem in kubuntu
[20:21] <ScorpKing> !ask alexander
[20:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask alexander - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:21] <ScorpKing> heh
[20:21] <ScorpKing> !ask
[20:21] <alexander> i cant install kepone
[20:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:21] <ScorpKing> alexander: what's that?
[20:22] <alexander> sry i mean kopete
[20:22] <ScorpKing> is there a way to make this work on KDE 3.5.6? - http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=37188&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=828c9b01f495a86cbd4fa499b6076ca
[20:22] <SalsaDoom> alexander: how are you trying to install it?
[20:22] <ScorpKing> alexander: why can't you? what is the error?
[20:23] <Strider> hey whats up, im new to linux and just got Kubuntu, but with Compiz for some reason i dont have title bars or anything like that
[20:23] <alexander> i try it by the program add/ remove
[20:23] <Strider> Will someone help me out here?
[20:23] <alexander> but i cant klik it
[20:24] <SalsaDoom> alexander: Ooh right, I know what your talking about. I had that problem with something, I didn't bother to look into it though. Just open a konsole and type "apt-get install kopete" instead
[20:24] <MilesG> !hi | ReMiiRuru
[20:24] <SalsaDoom> Its a bit silly to have to do that, but Kubuntu is a red-headed step child of a distro ;)
[20:24] <ubotu> ReMiiRuru: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:25] <ScorpKing> have fun guys. i'm gone.. :P
[20:25] <Strider> so does anyone know how to fix the title bar issue?
[20:25] <SalsaDoom> Strider: nVidia or ATI?
[20:26] <Strider> nVidia
[20:26] <Strider> i googled it but, none of them were very helpful :-/
[20:26] <SalsaDoom> Strider: I'm not 100% sure, but take a look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and under the "Device" section, see if it has things like "AddARGBVisuals" "True" and "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[20:28] <largos> I just started using Kmail, and it isn't checking for new messages periodically (I did set the "Enable interval mail checking" checkbox, and specified a time of 5 min in the account settings)
[20:28] <largos> does anyone know what I should check next?
[20:32] <Les_Caesars> Gusty Gibbon came with NTFS write support, right?
[20:33] <Les_Caesars> I can't seem to mount my Windows hard drive
[20:33] <Strider> where would those two lines of text be in xorg.conf, i cant seem to find them
[20:34] <Strider> oh duh, you said
[20:34] <Strider> and yes, those options are set to true
[20:35] <SalsaDoom> Strider: erm, ok. Lets see, your doing this in KDE .. so, do you by chance have emerald installed?
[20:35] <Strider> i have no idea haha, sorry
[20:35] <SalsaDoom> Strider: ok ;) open a konsole and type "apt-get install emerald" and if should say if its installed or not. Install it if its not.
[20:36] <Strider> i get this
[20:36] <Strider> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[20:36] <Strider> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:37] <SalsaDoom> Strider: close adept or the add remove programs thingy
[20:37] <SalsaDoom> Strider: oh yeah, or prefix the whole thing with sudo. "sudo apt-get install emerald" :)
[20:37] <largos> Strider: you might need to run it as "sudo apt-get install emerald"
[20:37] <SalsaDoom> largos: too slow! :D
[20:37] <largos> SalsaDoom: yup.. had to scrollback for the package name ;)
[20:37] <Strider> ok it worked that time
[20:37] <Strider> what is "sudo"?
[20:38] <largos> Strider: it runs programs as root (the administrator, basically)
[20:38] <SalsaDoom> Strider: its a handy little program to temporarily give you higher permissions, like, to install software or edit system files
[20:38] <Strider> oh ok
[20:38] <Strider> emerald is installed, what now? :)
[20:38] <Les_Caesars> Strider: "Super User DO" It gives you root permissions, which basically means ultimate power
[20:39] <SalsaDoom> Substitute actually.
[20:39] <largos> graphical description: http://xkcd.com/149/
[20:39] <SalsaDoom> Strider: run compiz again :)
[20:39] <alexander> can someone help me to install kopete ( i am a noob in linux)
[20:39] <Les_Caesars> lol @ largos
[20:40] <SalsaDoom> At this point, I feel I should mention that I've never bothered with compiz with kde :)
[20:40] <Strider> this is a stupid question but, run compiz?
[20:40] <SalsaDoom> largos: lol :D
[20:40] <largos> alexander: "sudo aptitude install kopete" should do it.
[20:40] <Strider> just open the advanced desktop settings?
[20:40] <SalsaDoom> Strider: Well, do whatever you did to make the window decorations disappear again :)
[20:41] <largos> Strider: There may be an emerald entry in the K menu somewhere, you could try that
[20:41] <SalsaDoom> Man, there is an advanced desktop settings in kde?
[20:42] <Strider> i disabled all the decorations and what not but, i stil lhave no title bars
[20:42] <flick> when i try to find best sources, the repository manager ends with the message: ASSERT failure in QWidget: "Widgets must be created in the GUI thread."
[20:42] <flick> can anyone else confirm this?
[20:42] <alexander> no candidate version found for kopete
[20:42] <SalsaDoom> Strider: Well, here. Open up a konsole and just type "compiz"
[20:42] <largos> Strider: you could also try logging out /in or starting a new kde session
[20:42] <Cacheaway> 	function iZ($mark) { return $mark->item(0);     }
[20:42] <SalsaDoom> Strider: but you should know, that from what I understand, Kubuntu doesn't really work in the same way as Ubuntu does with compiz
[20:42] <Cacheaway> 	$weather = iZ($doc->getElementsByTagName('weather'))
[20:42] <Cacheaway> :)
[20:43] <Strider> yea, i think ill switch back to ubuntu lol...
[20:43] <SalsaDoom> Strider: If you have no real preference between KDE and Gnome, but you really like desktop effects, go with Ubuntu.
[20:43] <flick> Strider, install compiz-kde
[20:43] <heia> Hi all. Do anybody know how to get myspell to work in the new open office?
[20:43] <Strider> well, i just want to get into Linux lol
[20:43] <flick> install emerald
[20:44] <flick> And then compiz will work with Kubuntu.
[20:44] <flick> sudo apt-get install compiz-kde emerald
[20:44] <alexander> largos  this is what i get "no candidate version found for kopete"
[20:44] <Strider> i have both of the newest versions
[20:45] <SalsaDoom> Strider: listen to flick, I think he knows more about compiz and kubuntu then I do. Since well, I've never really looked it, expect on gentoo about a year ago ;)
[20:45] <dthacker-work> flick: is emerald a theme? or something else?
[20:45] <SalsaDoom> er, except. Anyway.
[20:45] <largos> alexander: take a look at your apt cache (apt-cache search kopete) and see what it says
[20:45] <flick> dthacker-work, emerald is a theme manager afaik
[20:45] <flick> Stider, compiz --replace works?
[20:45] <SalsaDoom> I thought emerald was a window manager.
[20:46] <largos> alexander: and possibly run an update?
[20:46] <SalsaDoom> Because kwin doesn't support any 3d stuff until kde4.
[20:46] <heia> Hi all. Do any body know how to get myspell to work in the new open office?
[20:46] <Strider>   /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[20:46] <dthacker-work> !emerald
[20:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47]  * dthacker-work hugs ubotu anyway
[20:47] <flick> Strider, but compiz works fine with Ubuntu?
[20:47] <Strider> yea
[20:47] <poison--> !emerald
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <poison--> !compiz
[20:47] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:49] <Strider> i think ill switch back to ubunty lol...
[20:50] <Strider> ubuntu*
[20:50] <Strider> well im just going to reinstall, ubuntu, thanks for your help everyone!
[20:52] <alexander> largos apt-cahce search kopete he didnt find a thing
[20:53] <dthacker-work> they give up so easily....
[20:54] <alexander> largos$ apt-cahce search kopete he didnt find a thing
[20:54] <earl_> hey guys. anyone know how i can have compiz completely replace kwin?
[20:55] <earl_> i'm not talking about a script in .kde/Autostart
[20:55] <earl_> i want KDE to forget kwin even exists and go straight for compiz, the script just loads up compiz after my lappy is fully booted and just takes forever and is really ugly
[20:56] <earl_> figured i'd ask here before i go to the compiz channel since a fair amount of money says i'll go there and they'll tell me they know nothing about KDE
[20:58] <dthacker-work> earl_: It would seem to me that kwin is not being started if you tell Autostart to fire up compiz.  But I'd have to research that.
[20:58] <earl_> no kwin is being started
[20:58] <earl_> i have kwin window decorators for a second
[20:58] <earl_> then the screen goes black for a few seconds while compiz is loaded
[20:59] <lg188> me back
[21:00] <dthacker-work> time to go home!
[21:00] <KalEl> where is the Theme Manager?
[21:01] <alexander> my kopete gives an error when i tray to log in is there anybody ho knows how to fix it
[21:01] <lg188> wien also is for games ?
[21:01] <lg188> wine*
[21:02] <lg188> wine also for dames suiteabel ?
[21:02] <alexander> my kopete gives an error when i tray to log in is there anybody ho knows how to fix it
[21:03] <wesley> adept is in use by a nother process'
[21:03] <KalEl> where's the theme manager??
[21:06] <wesley> how can i fix that if adept is crased / used by another process?
[21:09] <wesley> how can i fix that if adept is crased / used by another process?
[21:10] <sub[t]rnl> !adept fix
[21:10] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:11] <sub[t]rnl> KalEl: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager
[21:11] <KalEl> sub[t]rnl, thanks! i was just giving up
[21:12] <KalEl> :)
[21:13] <alexander> dous anybidy knows where i can change ma kdewallet code
[21:13] <Les_Caesars> alexander: not immediately, but I'll see if I can figure it out
[21:14] <alexander> thx
[21:14] <alexander> its beques you need the code for poete
[21:14] <alexander> and i dont have it
[21:15] <Les_Caesars> poete?
[21:15] <Les_Caesars> kopete?
[21:15] <alexander> yes
[21:15] <alexander> kopete sry
[21:16] <Les_Caesars> sorry, lol. I wasn't sure whether you were mixing French w/ Engilsh or deliberately changing the spelling of stuff
[21:16] <alexander> and than kopete craches if i try to log in to msn
[21:17] <Les_Caesars> well, for KDEwallet, I can only find a way to make a new wallet... but that's ONLY in just the iconified program
[21:18] <Les_Caesars> let me google around. It may not be possible to. I imagine that all of your passwords are encrypted, and it wouldn't surprise me if your password was the encryption key
[21:18] <Les_Caesars> and, in that case you couldn't change it, unless if the program unencrypted and re-encrypted the whole thing
[21:18] <sub[t]rnl> alexander: are you using gutsy?
[21:19] <alexander> whats gutsy
[21:19] <Les_Caesars> Alex, I have the answer:
[21:19] <Les_Caesars> alexander: LEFT click on the wallet icon
[21:19] <alexander> yes?
[21:19] <Les_Caesars> is there a wallet icon there?
[21:19] <Les_Caesars> well, if there is, click on it
[21:19] <Les_Caesars> then, a window will come up w/ an icon of a wallet
[21:20] <Les_Caesars> right click on the wallet that is yours. It's probably the only wallet there.
[21:20] <Les_Caesars> then, "change password" should be an option
[21:20] <alexander> i dony have a wallet icon
[21:20] <Les_Caesars> ok. Just a minute
[21:20] <Les_Caesars> do you need to change the password because you forgot it, or what?
[21:20] <alexander> i never set it
[21:21] <alexander> i just want that kopete works
[21:21] <Les_Caesars> or do you need to change a password within it
[21:21] <sub[t]rnl> kwalletmanager from konsole will open it.  Update your kdelibs to stop kopete from crashing
[21:21] <Les_Caesars> oh, hm.
[21:21] <birdowner> Hi
[21:21] <Les_Caesars> alexander: exactly what sub[t]rnl said. Hit Alt+F2 and enter kwalletmanager to get the icon
[21:23] <ubuntu__> yello
[21:25] <Les_Caesars> hey, is there a way I can make compiz start SOONER? It's very annoying having to see my KDE desktop, then to see the screen go black, and have the desktop show up again.
[21:28]  * DarthWar is away: Gone away for now.
[21:28] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: try export KDEWM="compiz --replace" in your ~/.bashrc
[21:29] <mike-kubuntu> hey, where can i find the emerald-themes package, the fetch themes option doesnt work from emerald-theme-manager
[21:29] <Vermux> how do I kill a process? I tried kill ProcessName and PID -doesnt work
[21:29] <alexander> thank you guys Kopete works
[21:32] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: sorry, I just -now- got your message. How do I "export" the line into it? Is it just like adding a line in anything else?
[21:32] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: like fstab
[21:32] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, edit it
[21:32] <sub[t]rnl> then add the export line
[21:34] <jerware> hi
[21:34] <garthis> hello, how do i change terminals font to something else than these "typewriterfonts"?
[21:34] <jerware> i want to use the vesa drivers.  forgot part of the command.  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-<?????>
[21:34] <sub[t]rnl> xserver-xorg
[21:35] <jerware> sub[t]rnl: thanx pal
[21:35] <sub[t]rnl> garthis: what terminal? konsole?
[21:36] <garthis> yes
[21:36] <garthis> and yakuake
[21:37] <jerware> im running an old HP pavilion, how can i learn what the best video drivers are available for it?
[21:37] <sub[t]rnl> right click in the konsole window, and adjust your settings
[21:37] <garthis> that doesn't help
[21:37] <jerware> hp 310m
[21:37] <sub[t]rnl> jerware: whats lspci |grep VGA
[21:37] <sub[t]rnl> say
[21:37] <garthis> imean that these fonts look a like
[21:38] <garthis> i want my own there
[21:38] <bmk789> is there a good way to remove all gnome packages on my desktop?
[21:38] <jerware> sub[t]rnl:   00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
[21:38] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-desktop
[21:39] <sub[t]rnl> jerware: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:40] <jerware> will do. brb
[21:42] <bmk789> sub[t]rnl: gnome-desktop isnt a package
[21:42] <mado> oy guys ... hello ... can you help me please? ... i can't change the resolution
[21:43] <mado> and i don't know why ...
[21:43] <jerware> sub[t]rnl: ok i have installed those intel drivers.  am i now supposed to look for a particular driver name while im reconfigureing xserver ?
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> yup, intel
[21:43] <jerware> ahh of course.  thanx pal :P
[21:43] <sub[t]rnl> backup your xorg.conf first
[21:43] <jerware> right
[21:44] <mado> the german speaking guys told me to install the proprietary driver and to change some lines in the "xorg.conf"-file ... well ... it didn't work ... so ... what are you guys suggesting me?
[21:44] <sub[t]rnl> bmk789: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[21:45] <mado> *is waiting now*
[21:45] <sub[t]rnl> mado: try setting your resolution with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:48] <mado> sub[t]rnl, ... ok ... thank you ... is it difficult to set with this command ... i don't know if you know but i'm a beginner
[21:48] <bmk789> thanks sub[t]rnl
[21:50] <jerware> sub[t]rnl: should i keep the glx module ?
[21:50] <tekteen> Anyone know how to write spanish accents with a english keyboard?
[21:50] <jerware> is that speciffic to nVidia?
[21:50] <jerware> (which was my previoius card)
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> fglrx is ATI
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> not sure
[21:51] <jerware> well if anything goes wrong i'll just go back and select it.
[21:51] <sub[t]rnl> er, glx is openGL for x-windows
[21:52] <When_I_Was> Hi. I just installed Kubuntu today, and I'm looking for a virtual cd rom drive program.
[21:52] <When_I_Was> I used to use Daemon Tools on Windows.
[21:52] <Q-collective> mount -o loop?
[21:52] <tekteen> Anyone know how to write spanish accents in kubuntu
[21:53] <Q-collective> When_I_Was: read man mount and read about the loop device and howto use it
[21:53] <tekteen> When_I-Was: u also need to use sudo
[21:53] <tekteen> (to be root)
[21:53] <When_I_Was> I read online that it won't mount bin/cue files, or mdf
[21:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> correct and correct.
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> nothing else will do it either
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> your options are...  convert to iso
[21:54] <Q-collective> there are simple scripts that convert these images to iso images
[21:54] <yakuzi> does anyone knows what can be the source of an error by Kdesu? because i get an error everytime i boot my laptop..
[21:54]  * Daisuke_Laptop tries to remember the one he used...
[21:54] <When_I_Was> Ok, that'll work. Thank you very much.
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh yeah...  acetoneiso
[21:54] <yakuzi> and i got this eror after i played around with compiz-fusion, i removed it already (exact the same packages as i installed)
[21:54] <sub[t]rnl> tovid > *
[21:55] <sub[t]rnl> yakuzi: whats the error?
[21:55] <yakuzi> it's something with it has to close kdesu because some argument is missing
[21:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're gonna have to come a little more specific than that
[21:57] <yakuzi> the thin is, i didn't write the error down...and i have it only after booting my laptop :s
[21:57] <yakuzi> *thing
[21:59] <jerware> sub[t]rnl:  to safely restart X with out having to reboot the machine, ctrl-F2; startx correct?
[22:00] <sub[t]rnl> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:01] <sub[t]rnl> or just kmenu-> logout, then alt + e
[22:04] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: I added the line (KDEWM="compiz --replace") into the bashrc, but I don't know whether it did anything or not. It runs compizicon automatically, but there aren't any programs in .kde/Autostart. Where else is KDE's autostart?
[22:05] <sub[t]rnl> its running compiz automatically because your setting the window manager to compiz instead of kwin in your environment
[22:05] <sub[t]rnl> did that help your black screen problem at all?
[22:06] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: well, my desktop shows up, turns black (for a very long time), and then shows up again w/ compiz up.
[22:06] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: no unfortunately. I think that it's possibly reloading compiz
[22:06] <skeet> hey everyone i have a prob i am tryin to get beryl running on my kubuntu desktop but i dont think that i can do it
[22:07] <skeet> i used to have ubuntu but then i switched to kubuntu cause i like it better
[22:07] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: the black flash is a common deal, I still havn't got it ironed out on my box.
[22:07] <sub[t]rnl> but its only a quick blip on my monitor
[22:07] <sub[t]rnl> I've read some posts about it, I'll see if i can dig one up
[22:07] <skeet> when i had ubuntu i also had beryl but i dont know anything about kubuntu
[22:08] <yakuzi> i'm going to try to reproduce the error by loging out and relogin... see if it pops up again
[22:08] <skeet> so if someone could help i would appreciate it a bunch
[22:08] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: it's a rather long wait for me. In gnome, it works as soon as I see the screen. I don't care if it takes longer to load up everything first and then show me. I just don't want to be teased by the screen.
[22:08] <Les_Caesars> *see the desktop
[22:09] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, compiz-fusion was designed for gnome
[22:09] <wronusia> somebody know how install canon ip4200 in 64 bit kubuntu 7.10
[22:10] <mismis> can any1 plz tell where i can get codecs
[22:10] <sub[t]rnl> !info w32codecs
[22:10] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[22:10] <sub[t]rnl> !info w32codec
[22:10] <ubotu> Package w32codec does not exist in gutsy
[22:11] <EightyFiveOnline> hello i need help with kubuntu server
[22:11] <tekteen> you can get codecs from medibuntu
[22:11] <yakuzi> the thing i get is this: "No command arguments supplied ! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> KdeSudo will now exit...
[22:11] <tekteen> Mismis:  go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[22:11] <mismis> thank u tekteen
[22:12] <tekteen> np
[22:12] <EightyFiveOnline> how do i set up kubuntu server?
[22:13] <tekteen> ?
[22:13] <tekteen> A server is not kubuntu
[22:13] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: looks hopeful: http://www.samogitia.lt/mintys/
[22:13] <jpatrick> !server
[22:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[22:13] <tekteen> kubuntu assumes a x interface
[22:13] <EightyFiveOnline> i installed ubuntuserver then the kubuntu gui
[22:13] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <EightyFiveOnline> yes i have kubuntu installed
[22:14] <tekteen> ok
[22:14] <EightyFiveOnline> how how can i use it as a LAMP server
[22:14] <ardchoille> !lamp
[22:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:16] <Quel> hi there
[22:16] <Quel> can someone tell me on which distribution kubunto builds? Is it DebiaN?
[22:17] <Les_Caesars> Quel, ubuntu. Which is Debian based
[22:17] <EightyFiveOnline> kubuntu is the kde gui as apposed to ubuntu which uses gnome
[22:17] <frank_> hoola
[22:17] <Quel> can i add gnome as desktop too?
[22:17] <EightyFiveOnline> yes
[22:18] <Quel> what about apt-get commands? is it included in kubuntu? (based on debian)?
[22:18] <frank_> alguien habla español
[22:18] <EightyFiveOnline> takes up a bit of space but you can use both
[22:18] <Quel> frank habla aleman?
[22:18] <frank_> noooooooo
[22:18] <EightyFiveOnline> yes it uses the apt-get
[22:18] <Quel> ok. is kubuntu for HD installation?
[22:18] <EightyFiveOnline> you can run it off a live cd
[22:19] <Quel> thats pretty cool :)
[22:19] <frank_> y porq aleman?
[22:19] <EightyFiveOnline> kubuntu and ubuntu have the same kernel but different user interfaces
[22:19] <Quel> I want to have a linux operating system on my computer and in gießen was a linux-meeting. I found kubuntu there and got a cd
[22:20] <Quel> frank_ si me habla aleman y english y para espanol
[22:20] <EightyFiveOnline> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:20] <Quel> which filesystem does it need?
[22:20] <Quel> ext3?
[22:20] <EightyFiveOnline> what mines on
[22:20] <Quel> reiserfs?
[22:21] <Les_Caesars> ok. I want KDE to NOT launch kwin before compiz.
[22:21] <tekteen> I suggest ext3
[22:21] <Quel> so i am going to take ext3.. :); another thing: i have 2 GB Ram... do i need a swap?
[22:21] <frank_> me puedes ayudar a instalar firefox en kubuntu
[22:22] <mneptok> !es
[22:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:22] <Les_Caesars> Quel: Probably not. But it's not a good idea NOT to have it. I'd at least have 2 GB of swap
[22:22] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:22] <tekteen> frank_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:23] <frank_> y de ahi
[22:23] <tekteen> lo siento no hablo espanol
[22:23] <Quel> frank_ habla con tekteen --> ayuda ^^
[22:23] <frank_> ok
[22:23] <tekteen> no me gusta mucho la clase de espanol
[22:24] <frank_> despues de sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:24] <frank_> jajaja
[22:24] <Quel> my spanish sucks :)
[22:24] <tekteen> metoo
[22:24] <Quel> hehe
[22:24] <krawek> hehehe
[22:24] <tekteen> nada
[22:24] <tekteen> type y
[22:24] <Quel> habla english frank_?
[22:24] <frank_> noooo
[22:24] <frank_> les entiendo algo
[22:24] <Quel> ah okay :)
[22:25] <frank_> pero no
[22:25] <tekteen> no comprendo
[22:25] <tekteen> lo siento
[22:25] <ardchoille> !es
[22:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:25] <Quel> Can I instasll Kubunto on dev/sda1 and got my privat data on dev/sda2 or should i throw both together and just create /dev/sda1
[22:26] <earl_> hello guys. i'm trying to compile something using this howto:
[22:26] <earl_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570
[22:26] <ardchoille> Quel: Lots of people put $HOME on its own partition
[22:26] <earl_> when i do "make", i get an error message
[22:26] <Quel> sounds good, i am a newcommer :)
[22:27] <earl_> http://pastebin.com/m7d672bb2
[22:27] <earl_> i get all the usual make stuff up until that happens
[22:27] <Quel> hmm bad booting screen... hope I can add my graphic driver O_o
[22:27] <earl_> anyone know what's wrong?
[22:27] <ardchoille> Quel: For nvidia? ati?
[22:28] <Quel> ati... motherboard driver
[22:28] <ardchoille> !ati
[22:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:28] <Quel> xpress1250
[22:28] <yakuzi> !compiz
[22:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:28] <EightyFiveOnline> what does it take to get ubuntu to run lamp-server
[22:28] <Quel> i can use CTRL + ALT + F1 for shell ^^
[22:29] <makuseru> can someone tell me the command to change the reslution by using Mplyer or FFMpeg?
[22:29] <Angelus> how can i restart my internet connection on kubuntu? there's no /etc/init.d/eth0 :S
[22:29] <sub[t]rnl> ifconfig eht0 down
[22:29] <jpatrick> Angelus: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:30] <Quel> jesus christ... it seems he cant even show the desktop without driver :D
[22:30] <sub[t]rnl> even better
[22:30] <ardchoille> EightyFiveOnline: lamp is not a server.. it is an abreviation for Linux Apache Mysql Php
[22:30] <Angelus> ok
[22:30] <Angelus> i did it
[22:30] <Angelus> and i dint get disconnected from IRC
[22:30] <Angelus> nice
[22:30] <Angelus> :S
[22:30] <Quel> is there a possibility to download and use the ati xpress1250 driver while grub is laoding?
[22:31] <Quel> ah shell started
[22:33] <Quel> huhu
[22:33] <Quel> is there another command like infobash -v in kubuntu?
[22:34] <frank_> cuando abro kopote
[22:34] <frank_> me dice
[22:34] <frank_> me dice q la aplikacion gestor de paquetes adept fallo y provoko la señal  6 SIGABRT
[22:34] <frank_> q pasa
[22:34] <dr2> how do u create a static link to /usr/bin in /bin so the files appear to be local?
[22:34] <frank_> me ayudan
[22:36] <ardchoille> frank_ please join the #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[22:37] <ardchoille> frank_ hay necessito usar ingles en esta canal
[22:37] <acemo> !es
[22:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:37] <EightyFiveOnline> anyone know how to get ubuntu server working?
[22:37] <acemo> EightyFiveOnline: what server application?
[22:37] <ardchoille> EightyFiveOnline: Was that page not helpful?
[22:37] <icewaterman> dr2: man ln
[22:38] <mado> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/17579 -> guys ... what should i choose here?
[22:38] <EightyFiveOnline> i want to run lamp. i cant find anything online that will help me get started
[22:38] <mado> any ideas? -> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/17579
[22:38] <Quel> how can i boot kubuntu with an ati radeon xpress 1250 driver?
[22:38] <acemo> !lamp
[22:38] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:39] <ardchoille> EightyFiveOnline: ^^
[22:39] <acemo> EightyFiveOnline: tried this link yet?
[22:39] <EightyFiveOnline> yah i get errors
[22:39] <mado> *is waiting*
[22:40] <frank_> hola como entro a un canal en spañol
[22:40] <acemo> !es frank_
[22:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es frank_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:40] <acemo> !es
[22:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:40] <tekteen> !es | frank
[22:40] <ubotu> frank: please see above
[22:40] <Quel> how can i boot kubuntu with an ati radeon xpress 1250 driver? Is there a boot command?
[22:40] <acemo> tekteen: tnx for showing how it works =)
[22:41] <tekteen> np
[22:41] <mado> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/17579 -> anybody?
[22:41] <donsdw> How do I change my screen resolution?  Kubuntu, KDE 3.5.8.  System Settings:Monitor & Display shows 800 x 600 as max.
[22:42] <sub[t]rnl> !resolution
[22:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:42] <acemo> if i make a symlink to my tomcat/webapps folder inside a ftp folder, would this allow me to put files in there trough ftp or would it cause problems? (asuming i set the rights correct)
[22:42] <frank_> TIENEN MSN
[22:43] <EightyFiveOnline> been working on this all day...shouldnt be this hard
[22:43] <krawek> frank_: pls...
[22:45] <manolo> hi
[22:45] <manolo> do someone know for what the "type1" module of the xserver is good for?
[22:46] <tekteen> frank_: estas aqui?
[22:46] <tekteen> frank_: que quieras?
[22:47] <frank_> hola
[22:47] <frank_> de nuevo
[22:47] <frank_> tengo problemas
[22:47] <Les_Caesars> !es
[22:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:48] <tekteen> vamanos: #kubuntu-es
[22:49] <ardchoille> I bought a new music cd and want to rip the tracks to mp3. What is the best way to do that in kubuntu?
[22:49] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, you could use amarok, k3b or soundkonverter
[22:50] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, thanks
[22:50] <BluesKaj> soundconverter is fast
[22:50] <BluesKaj> err soundkonverter
[22:51] <nhe> hello
[22:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> my personal recommendation
[22:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: wanna see something cool?
[22:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> in konqueror: audiocd:/
[22:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> (audio cd kioslave)
[22:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> then drag the (whatever format you prefer) folder to where you would like it stored.
[22:52] <sub[t]rnl> i use konqueror for ripping and encoding on the fly myself
[22:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> that right there is perhaps the thing that impresses me the most about konqueror
[22:53]  * sub[t]rnl sighs
[22:53] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, can't argue that
[22:53] <sub[t]rnl> it is nice
[22:53] <Les_Caesars> Is there a way I can tell KDE not to load KWIN at startup?
[22:53] <Les_Caesars> and instead load compiz, or metacity, or anything else
[22:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> you want a desktop but no windows?
[22:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[22:54] <UnknownUniverse> Hi does Kubuntu come with libgtk as default?
[22:54] <nhe> he might want another window manager :x
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> well...  you could add an autostart for dompiz or metacity
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> compiz*
[22:54] <EightyFiveOnline> anyone specialize in ubuntu server?
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> nhe: i caught on
[22:54] <sub[t]rnl> that still loads kwin first though
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> let me look at something
[22:54] <UnknownUniverse> Anyone mind checking if they have libgtk installed by default?
[22:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> it should be
[22:55] <tekteen> EightyFiveOnline: what is the problem
[22:55] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: that export for KDWIN="compiz" in your .bashrc will load it as default instead of kwin
[22:55] <EightyFiveOnline> i cannot get lamp installed or nething to make it like my http,sql,php server
[22:55] <sub[t]rnl> KDEWM="compiz" rather
[22:55] <sub[t]rnl> !lamp
[22:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:55] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: but KDEWM= wasn't already line in bashrc. should that be a problem?
[22:56] <sub[t]rnl> newp
[22:56] <Anacrusis> Can somebody help me track down the cause of system lockups?
[22:56] <EightyFiveOnline> yah ive read that and doesnt work
[22:56] <UnknownUniverse> Am I invisible, I'm not demanding much
[22:56] <nhe> I'm running in one laptop (acer 4002 wmli) and in the last version of kubuntu (gutsy) I can't boot properly... I just get a black screen little after kinit goes after an image to resume. Is this a common bug?
[22:56] <nhe> this is after installing from a cd
[22:57] <Sanne> UnknownUniverse: maybe nobody knows. I have libgtk, but I don't know if it got installed with the system
[22:57] <tekteen> UnknownUniverse: I can not check because I might have installed it with a gtk program
[22:57] <UnknownUniverse> Ok
[22:57] <UnknownUniverse> I'll check the forum
[22:57] <Les_Caesars> ok, now how do I make it so that I log out w/o saving my session?
[22:57] <sub[t]rnl> kmenu->system settings-advance-session
[22:58] <EightyFiveOnline> see no help for server out ther
[22:58] <Les_Caesars> thanks sub[t]rnl
[22:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> EightyFiveOnline: this is for #kubuntu, ubuntu server would be #ubuntu at best, as we specialize in *K*ubuntu.
[22:59] <Sanne> EightyFiveOnline: if the page people link to "doesn't work", it would be helpful to knwo what exactly didn't work.
[22:59] <tekteen> anyone know how to use spanish accents in kubuntu
[22:59] <BluesKaj> nhe , perhaps X needs reconfiguring , try to do so using the live cd ...in the konsole, ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '.
[22:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> now, as far as whoever was wanting to start compiz or metacity as kde's default window manager...
[22:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> you *could* potentially edit startkde
[22:59] <nhe> BluesKaj: already did that... got the same thing :\
[23:00] <nhe> I was expecting it would be a common bug but I didn't find anything anywhere :(
[23:01] <BluesKaj> nhe , choose the vesa driver in oder to get a screen
[23:01] <nhe> there is another thing I forgot to say...
[23:01] <nhe> if when I'm with a black screen
[23:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah HA!
[23:01] <nhe> i change to another screen (ctrl + alt + F1,2,3) it will start
[23:02] <BluesKaj> nhe, try to get to the tty prompt , ctrl+alt+F1
[23:02] <nhe> if I do that KDM will start normaly :\
[23:03] <nhe> I looked in logs and things like that and I didn't find anything that caught my eye!
[23:03] <garthis> why does firefox look different in gutsy?
[23:03] <marco_> how to seep up KDE?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> nhe, after you get to the tty then reconfig X , but use the vesa driver
[23:04] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Whoa! Nice
[23:04] <nhe> instead of ati?
[23:04] <sub[t]rnl> nhe: check /boot/grub/menu.lst and make sure your not passing a vga= in the kernel boot options.  The current kernel and framebuffering are buggy
[23:04] <Minataku> Bored.
[23:04] <Les_Caesars> ok. Well, the bashrc seems to have made things faster... I -think-. Is there just some way that I can make all of my startup programs load BEFORE the desktop shows up?
[23:05] <nhe> I'm in a live cd so I can't see it right now... I'll do that asap (reboot the laptop in a few minutes...)
[23:06] <frojnd> Ok guys. I have installed mobility x1400 somehow. Now When I click on a system -> prefererences ->  appearance ->visual effects extra or any other It says, that it couldn't be loaded. Do i have install some more packages for compiz ??
[23:06] <sub[t]rnl> sounds like you need #ubuntu
[23:06] <Les_Caesars> sub[t]rnl: I'll try. Thanks for your help so far
[23:07] <sub[t]rnl> Les_Caesars: any time
[23:07] <frojnd> anyone'
[23:07] <BluesKaj> yes nhe, use vesa to get a screen then you use system settings to configure your ati driver , prolly the restricted driver in the advanced tab should work
[23:08] <sub[t]rnl> frojnd: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:08] <tekteen> anyone know how to create spanish characters in kubuntu
[23:09] <frojnd> sub[t]rnl, I allready have this package
[23:09] <frojnd> :s
[23:10] <BluesKaj> tekteen, you mean like Don Quixote
[23:10] <tekteen> ?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[23:10] <tekteen> what is that
[23:10] <tekteen> ?
[23:11] <BluesKaj> nevermind ...yer history education is obviously not a priority :)
[23:11] <tekteen> what?
[23:11] <nhe> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a76620a4-2b28-4cba-bdb
[23:11] <nhe> d-c7f89efedcaa ro quiet splash
[23:11] <nhe> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[23:11] <tekteen> can you help me?
[23:11] <nhe> I see no VGA there
[23:11] <nhe> [I mounted the partition]
[23:12] <BluesKaj> !fonts
[23:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:12] <BluesKaj> !characters
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about characters - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <BluesKaj> !info characters
[23:12] <ubotu> Package characters does not exist in gutsy
[23:13] <crolle17> what mozilla-add-on do i have to install fr watching you-tube-videos?
[23:13] <crolle17> flashplayer?
[23:14] <sub[t]rnl> nhe: check for this # defoptions= in your menu.lst, make sure there isn't a vga= in that
[23:14] <juan_> hola?
[23:14] <nhe> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a76620a4-2b28-4cba-bdb
[23:14] <nhe> d-c7f89efedcaa ro quiet splash
[23:14] <nhe> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[23:14] <nhe> thats what I got
[23:14] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: audiocd:/ doesn't work :(
[23:14] <sub[t]rnl> k... now check for the defoptions thing
[23:14] <sub[t]rnl> heh
[23:15] <nhe> oh sorry
[23:16] <drackspat> hey, Im having an issue with compizConfig settings manager
[23:16] <drackspat> it's blank and I'm at a loss on how to get filters in there
[23:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: audiocd: ?
[23:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> no /
[23:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> and of course, you'll need the proper codecs installed (lame if you want to do mp3, flac if you want to go that way)
[23:17] <juan_> me pueden ayudar?
[23:17] <krawek> hi
[23:17] <skeet> can anyone help me?
[23:17] <krawek> gutsy supports squashfs ?
[23:18] <krawek> juan_: #kubuntu-es
[23:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> skeet: i've been asking myself that very same question for the past 27 years...
[23:18] <nhe> doesn't "#" in the begin of a line stands for a comment?
[23:18] <nhe> ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
[23:18] <nhe> ## alternatives
[23:18] <nhe> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[23:18] <nhe> # defoptions=quiet splash
[23:18] <skeet> dang
[23:18] <juan_> thanks!
[23:18] <skeet> this sucks
[23:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> nhe: yep
[23:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ask } skeet
[23:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask } skeet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ask | skeet
[23:19] <ubotu> skeet: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:19] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Malformed url
[23:19] <sub[t]rnl> not all the time
[23:19] <sub[t]rnl> the single #'s in menu.lst get read
[23:19] <skeet> isnt there anyone on this channel that can actually help someone
[23:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> skeet: what do you need?
[23:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> coming in here and blithering about "can anyone help anyone?" isn't getting things done.  if you have an issue, raise it.  if you have a question, ask it.
[23:20] <BluesKaj> !ask | skeet
[23:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: already did that :)
[23:20] <ubotu> skeet: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:21] <nhe> lol
[23:21] <skeet> ok here is my problem, im trying to get my beryl/compiz fusion working but im a noob and need help my graphics card is an ati radeon 9550, whenever i try to open compiz fusion/ beryl i get a stupid error then my screen flashes once and i have to restart my comp because everything loses its tabs and stuff
[23:21] <BluesKaj> good , Daisuke_Laptop :)
[23:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> loses its tabs?
[23:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> like...  thte titlebars and such?
[23:22] <skeet> yes like the blue part right above everything
[23:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah.  well then, that is a problem
[23:22] <skeet> ya
[23:22] <BluesKaj> oh the price of eye candy ... frustration and gnashing of teeth for window dressing
[23:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> no window decoration...
[23:22] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get install emerald
[23:22] <nhe> do you have an emerald icone in your tray?
[23:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a good first step :)
[23:23] <skeet> no
[23:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> fusion-icon's another, if it ever gets added to the repos
[23:23] <sub[t]rnl> yeh
[23:23] <nhe> then do what sub[t]rnl told you to do :)
[23:24] <skeet> thats what im doing right now =)
[23:24] <nhe> if I remove quiet and splash from these options
[23:24] <JimBob> hey folks, if i'm booting from a kubuntu 7.10 dvd how can i tell if it is installing or booting a live image? the menu entry just reads 'start or install' ...
[23:24] <nhe> do I will see more messages?
[23:24] <sub[t]rnl> yup
[23:24] <sub[t]rnl> and the kernel will spit more stuff into your logs
[23:24] <nhe> ok
[23:25] <nhe> I'll remove them
[23:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> JimBob: start or install launches the live environment
[23:25] <skeet> brb
[23:25] <skeet> the emerald thing is done
[23:25] <bjwebb> hm any good linux media player that does music and videos?
[23:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> fromthat live environment you can run the installer (big icon on the desktop, you can't miss it)
[23:25] <JimBob> aaah, I got kinda worried since i only wanted to take a first look at it - thanks
[23:26] <sub[t]rnl> bjwebb: i like mplayer
[23:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, you can try it out...  hit alt-f2 and try compiz --replace
[23:27] <bjwebb> sub[t]rnl: hmm,
[23:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: the difference is linux's philosophy - do one thing and do it well
[23:27] <bjwebb> i would like one with a gui :D
[23:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok for music
[23:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> kaffeine for video
[23:27] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: but some people want both
[23:27] <nhe> I can't get kaffeine to play lots of videos... VLC does it :\
[23:27] <Angelus> why when i go to System Settings > Advanced > Windows Applications , its continously telling me that i don't have wine installed? and i have wine installed
[23:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: then you're not going to find a good one
[23:27] <bjwebb> why hasn't anybody forked amarok yet to stick video in it
[23:27] <sub[t]rnl> bjwebb: mplayer has a gui
[23:27] <bjwebb> isn't it mostly cli?
[23:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> because amarok is a music player.  to add video would involve a complete rewrite and that's kinda pointless
[23:28] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: would it involve a complete rewrite?
[23:28] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop:  system:/media/hdc/ does have a Ogg Vorbis folder in it, tho
[23:28] <bjwebb> im actually trying to prove to someone that itunes is not the beall and endall for music
[23:28] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, but thats true for 99 percent of all gui apps, they just run cli programs and stick something shiny on it
[23:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> actually, i'm not sure, but i am sure that adding video would be non-trivial
[23:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: that's what you're looking for :D
[23:28] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Nice :)
[23:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: then show them amarok
[23:29] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Thanks for the info
[23:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok > itunes
[23:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: you're welcome
[23:29] <account_> alexllad
[23:29] <bjwebb> no thats crap it doesn't do video and it has nothing like coverflow....
[23:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: you're NOT LISTENING.
[23:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're not going to get that on linux unless you go write it yourself
[23:29] <bjwebb> i know
[23:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> most apps are designed to do one thing and do it well.
[23:30] <bjwebb> its just annoying
[23:30] <bjwebb> yeah, but music + music videos?
[23:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> in amarok's case, it's music management
[23:30] <bjwebb> ya
[23:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> and it does it extremely well
[23:30] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: they are actually working on a coverflow like thing
[23:30] <Angelus> stop critisising amarok, amarok is the best media player i ever saw bjwebb
[23:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's lovely
[23:30] <Angelus> :p
[23:30] <nhe> should I change to vesa the driver in xorg.conf ?
[23:30] <nhe> [I'm not sure if its there]
[23:31] <bjwebb> Angelus: it is
[23:31] <bjwebb> i just want an itunes killer to show the world
[23:31] <sub[t]rnl> nhe: your the one with the intel card?
[23:31] <Angelus> so
[23:31] <sub[t]rnl> nhe: lspci |grep VGA
[23:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: itunes didn't always do video either
[23:31] <nhe> 4002 laptop
[23:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> amarok IS your itunes killer
[23:31] <nhe> card is
[23:31] <nhe> ati 9700 mobily
[23:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> if they want video, use another program.
[23:31] <nhe> mobility
[23:31] <Angelus> somebody knows why when i got to System Settings > Advanced > Windows Applications its continously telling me that i don't have wine installed???????????
[23:31] <Angelus> do i need to format my computer because of this?
[23:31] <nhe> (I'm the one from the black screen)
[23:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> because you don't have wine installed?
[23:31] <Angelus> or there's  wy to fix it?
[23:32] <Angelus> Daisuke_Laptop:  i have it installed
[23:32] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: nah but it does now
[23:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: so?
[23:32] <Angelus> i have it install Daisuke_Ido
[23:32] <Angelus> * Daisuke_Laptop
[23:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> try installing it again.
[23:32] <Angelus> i tried
[23:32] <Angelus> i did it million times
[23:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a bit of an exaggeration
[23:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> but okay
[23:33] <Angelus> what is the package "Windows Applications" called?
[23:33] <Angelus> maybe i'll try to re-install that
[23:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, i'll be back shortly, i need a smoke, my head is going to burst :)
[23:33] <Angelus> man help me first, i'll send you some good weed
[23:33] <Angelus> LoL
[23:34] <BluesKaj> wine, Angelus
[23:34] <Angelus> ?
[23:34] <Angelus> BluesKaj:  im talking about Windows Applications manager
[23:34] <Angelus> the kubuntu one
[23:34] <BluesKaj> for running windows apps on linux
[23:34] <Angelus> System Settings > Advaced > Windows Applications
[23:34] <Angelus> that one
[23:34] <Angelus> :/
[23:35] <BluesKaj> yup, wine
[23:35] <Angelus> :/
[23:35] <drackspat> quick question, I have emerald theme manager up and running, I just don't know how to apply them
[23:35] <Angelus> BluesKaj:  that option is available even if you don't have wine installed
[23:35] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: okay here's a good question
[23:35] <BluesKaj> I prefer to install wine with apt , that option is buggy for me
[23:35] <drackspat> Or emerald themer I mean
[23:36] <bjwebb> is there any linux app for video _management_
[23:36] <BluesKaj> define video management bjwebb
[23:36] <bjwebb> like amarok does for music
[23:37] <nhe> sub[t]rnl: sorry I didn't get your answer
[23:37] <nhe> I have an 9700 mobility, from ait
[23:37] <nhe> ati
[23:37] <BluesKaj> a player like kaffeine , mplayer etc ?
[23:37] <sub[t]rnl> nhe: you need the fglrx driver
[23:37] <nhe> should I change to vesa the driver in xorg.cong?
[23:38] <nhe> hum... ok I'll install it
[23:38] <nhe> rebooting now
[23:38] <bjwebb> BluesKaj: one that would allow you to manage a library of videos
[23:38] <nhe> thanks for the help
[23:38] <michal_> hej
[23:38] <sub[t]rnl> np
[23:38] <michal_> jest ktos z polski..??
[23:38] <bjwebb> !pl
[23:38] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[23:38] <michal_> mam problem...
[23:39] <michal_> bo nie moge chodzic po necie a kadu chodzi aktualizacje sie pobieraja i nie rozumiem ..
[23:39] <michal_> wlaczam koncouera i nic..;/
[23:39] <bjwebb> michal_: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[23:39] <michal_> jak nie moge wejsc na zadna strine .;/
[23:40] <michal_> co robic..??
[23:41] <cooler> hy
[23:41] <BluesKaj> bjwebb, dunno , I just store 'em in a folder and choose one when I launch kaffeine
[23:41] <bjwebb> hmmm
[23:42] <BluesKaj> simple enuff IMO  :)
[23:42] <bjwebb> im stuck then
[23:42] <bjwebb> my mate can say linux is crap
[23:43] <cooler> I googled around but couldnt find anything
[23:43] <cooler> I am relatively new to linux (tried ubuntu and now running kubuntu) and I have pretty big problem with Firefox - when I want to download ANY extension, I click on install now button (addons.mozilla.org) but nothing happens
[23:43] <cooler> I googled around but couldnt find anything
[23:43] <cooler> can anybody help
[23:44] <BluesKaj> really , what exactly do you need to do ... you can make aplaylist in VLC if that's what you're looking for but organizing videos like mp3 is a bit of over kill
[23:44] <cooler> did anybody have similar problem?
[23:44] <bjwebb> cooler: have you used firefox before?
[23:44] <cooler> yes
[23:44] <bjwebb> okay, i dunno then
[23:45] <BluesKaj> bjwebb, try VLC , it may meet yer needs
[23:45] <bjwebb> hmmm
[23:45] <cooler> once it did work but after a minut or so - but just once
[23:45] <bjwebb> BluesKaj: basically i want to show there is an alternative to itunes
[23:46] <bjwebb> but ive never actually used it
[23:46] <cooler> so I really don't know what to do...
[23:46] <bjwebb> cooler: are you familiar with irc?
[23:46] <BluesKaj> hmmm  ... search for yourself , google works in linux too
[23:46] <bjwebb> because you could try #firefox
[23:46] <bjwebb> BluesKaj: i know, there are copies for music but not video
[23:47] <cooler> used it before - why?
[23:47] <bjwebb> cooler: they might know in #firefox
[23:47] <bjwebb> and also there is #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[23:47] <cooler> thx
[23:47] <cooler> I'll try there :)
[23:48] <coreymon77> !google
[23:48] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[23:48] <bjwebb> coreymon77: was that meant to be directed to me?
[23:48] <bjwebb> btw how good is the /linux one?
[23:48] <coreymon77> not fully
[23:48] <gorf_> hi, i got 2monitors connected to a nvidia fx 5200 one monitor is fine but the seconday blinks garbage when under x
[23:56] <JimBob> hey, is there any way to activate the ati restricted driver pre boot for a live dvd?
[23:56] <morphine> is there a way to convert a pdf document to something reasonable to read/edit in ooo?
[23:57] <goodhabit> Hello.
[23:57] <goodhabit> I need a voip system under kubuntu.
[23:57] <sub[t]rnl> JimBob: sudo update && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo depmod -a
[23:57] <goodhabit> Help )
[23:58] <marco_> how can I set up audio?
[23:58] <sub[t]rnl> !audio
[23:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:59] <JimBob> subtrnl: and when (where) would I type that? ;)
[23:59] <sub[t]rnl> mount a driver, ifconfig your interface device, and type it