| _hopex | jrib: are the updates necesary or recommended? | 00:51 |
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| jrib | hi | 00:51 |
| jrib | depends on the update | 00:51 |
| jrib | it would be updates directly from innotek | 00:52 |
| jrib | basically, whenever they put a new .deb on their website, you don't have to go check for it and download it yourself | 00:52 |
| _hopex | and if I donwload the .deb file would it onstall another copy or update the existing one? | 00:54 |
| jrib | update | 00:54 |
| jrib | it would be like windows | 00:55 |
| _hopex | I'll try it by now... And check if it works usefully fast. | 00:55 |
| jrib | you check the website for a new version, download it and install it. Instead of letting the package manager do all the work and then ask you if you want to update | 00:55 |
| _hopex | I need 10240 Mb is that 1Gb or 10Gb ? | 00:56 |
| jrib | closer to 10... | 00:57 |
| _hopex | oh... | 00:57 |
| _hopex | I'm running out of space... | 00:57 |
| _hopex | how can I check the available space in the system? | 00:58 |
| jrib | df -h | 00:58 |
| jrib | or applications -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer | 00:58 |
| _hopex | ok, but how can I know wich is the dev Im using? | 00:58 |
| jrib | you can check the output of 'mount' | 00:59 |
| _hopex | sorry, I seeI have 5,9 G free | 00:59 |
| _hopex | Would virtual box run with, let's say 2Gb or 3 max? | 01:00 |
| jrib | ram? | 01:01 |
| _hopex | I have 11 Gb free in a NTFS partition. Wich it isnt good for this purpose, is it usefull? | 01:01 |
| _hopex | I wish it was RAM :D | 01:01 |
| jrib | you can *probably* use the ntfs space | 01:01 |
| _hopex | what if it is not good? Would my data be broken? How can I make sure? | 01:02 |
| _hopex | or can I use the 3Gb ?? | 01:03 |
| jrib | _hopex: if windows fits on 3gb, sure | 01:06 |
| _hopex | jrib: not sure what to do. Using the NTFS would be more suitable for my because i guess I'll need the space for linux. But if the data of that partition brakes, I have no backup? What would you choose? | 01:07 |
| jrib | _hopex: I do not use ntfs and do would not write to it on linux without backups | 01:08 |
| jrib | darren: first we need a mount point for the drive, so: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 | 01:09 |
| jrib | darren: or name it whatever you want but be consistent | 01:09 |
| _hopex | I have backup for linux so, lets push new and use a couple of GB for windows. One question, does virtual box make a big file or a directory tree? | 01:10 |
| darren | jrib: ok | 01:10 |
| jrib | _hopex: one big file | 01:10 |
| _hopex | wait a second... I have another machine with 76Gb free! That's the one! | 01:11 |
| _hopex | I'll install virtual box in that one, older machine. So I can try before risking the laptop hd. | 01:11 |
| jrib | _hopex: good idea | 01:12 |
| jrib | darren: done with that? | 01:12 |
| darren | jrib: yup | 01:12 |
| jrib | darren: pastebin output of 'mount' for me real quick | 01:12 |
| darren | jrib: http://pastebin.com/d36ba3cb0 | 01:13 |
| _hopex | i cannot copy to the shared folder, ho w do I do that from a console? | 01:13 |
| jrib | _hopex: what shared folder? | 01:14 |
| jrib | darren: k, now edit your fstab: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab | 01:14 |
| _hopex | i wanted to copy the deb file to the samba shared dir in the old machine, but not working | 01:15 |
| jrib | darren: add the line: UUID=6CEC2EDEEC2EA276 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | 01:15 |
| _hopex | anyway, I will add the repository and install by apt-get | 01:15 |
| jrib | _hopex: oh, I know nothing about samba, maybe ask #ubuntu again | 01:15 |
| darren | jrib: so if I called the drive windows my line would read? UUID=6CEC2EDEEC2EA276 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | 01:16 |
| _hopex | anyway wich is the repositiry file /etc/apt?? | 01:17 |
| jrib | _hopex: /etc/apt/sources.list | 01:17 |
| jrib | darren: exactly | 01:17 |
| _hopex | thanx | 01:17 |
| darren | jrib: ok done | 01:18 |
| jrib | darren: now 'sudo mount -a' | 01:19 |
| jrib | oh, we forgot one thing | 01:19 |
| jrib | to give you permission... | 01:19 |
| jrib | darren: how do you want the permissions setup? | 01:19 |
| darren | jrib: I don't know what my options are.. I guess I want my user to have full access, I don't want to have to be fooling around with root stuff on that drive at all | 01:21 |
| jrib | darren: k, you don't have other users on the computer so no reason to setup a group with access? | 01:22 |
| darren | jrib: nope, just myself. | 01:22 |
| jrib | k, what is the output of 'id'? | 01:23 |
| darren | uid=1000(darren) gid=1000(darren) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),108(lpadmin),110(admin),115(netdev),117(powerdev),1000(darren) | 01:23 |
| jrib | ok, so to the options column for this ntfs drive, add "uid=1000,gid=1000". Paste the line here afterwards | 01:24 |
| darren | jrib: so my line would look like UUID=6CEC2EDEEC2EA276 /media/Windows ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 | 01:26 |
| _hopex | jrib: i have added the repository and the key. Also updated apt. How do I install virtual box now? | 01:26 |
| jrib | darren: yes, but make sure you capitalized the 'W' when you used mkdir too as linux is case-sensitive | 01:27 |
| _hopex | jrib: is the package name vbox? | 01:27 |
| darren | jrib: yes, made sure of that. | 01:27 |
| jrib | _hopex: sudo aptitude install virtualbox, or add/remove or synaptic for a gui. But, since you already installed the deb it probably will not do anything | 01:27 |
| jrib | _hopex: virtualbox | 01:28 |
| jrib | darren: did you run 'sudo umount -a' last time? | 01:28 |
| darren | jrib: yes | 01:28 |
| darren | jrib: err no I didn't unmount sorry | 01:28 |
| jrib | darren: k, good, run in now then | 01:29 |
| jrib | s/in/it | 01:29 |
| _hopex | jrib: I am installing in the old machine, running ubuntu too | 01:29 |
| _hopex | It`s donwloading... 10% | 01:29 |
| darren | jrib: I saw you say earlier its unreliable to write to an NTFS drive in linux without a backup... is that right? | 01:29 |
| _hopex | btw, what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get? | 01:30 |
| jrib | darren: that's my personal belief but many people have been doing so for a while. I do know that MS has not released any specs for ntfs so even though the people behind it have done a great job, they still have to fight with MS | 01:30 |
| jrib | _hopex: not much now, but aptitude remembers dependencies installed. So if you install A and it pulls in B, then if you remove A, it will remove B if nothing else needs it. apt-get does this with auto-remove now | 01:32 |
| darren | jrib: what a surprise... ms not co-operating. Ok, thank you very much for your help and patience with a VERY newbie :) | 01:32 |
| _hopex | jrib: it's good to know the difference | 01:35 |
| _hopex | jrib: Creating group vboxusers. Users of vbox must be member of that group in order to have write permission to /dev&vboxdrv. Otherwise starting VMs not be possible. How do I add actual user to that group? addgrp username groupname?? | 01:41 |
| jrib | adduser or addgroup | 01:43 |
| _hopex | Im in the user and groups windows inside System Preferences. I choose the my no.root user and then? Or is it better to use the console? | 01:43 |
| jrib | "better" is subjective but I usually prefer it and it is easier to communicate on irc using console commands | 01:44 |
| _hopex | I added my.user to the vboxdrv group, with the window | 01:44 |
| jrib | you mean vboxusers? | 01:44 |
| _hopex | thats it. sorry, | 01:45 |
| jrib | you'll need to log out and back in for that to take effect I believe | 01:45 |
| _hopex | the VirtualBox Icon is missing, there was a menu icon when I installed the .deb package | 01:46 |
| jrib | not in system tools at all? | 01:46 |
| _hopex | nop | 01:46 |
| jrib | run 'killall gnome-panel' | 01:46 |
| _hopex | now it is. cool | 01:47 |
| _hopex | login logout? | 01:47 |
| jrib | yep | 01:47 |
| _hopex | done | 01:49 |
| _hopex | base memory 192Mb, is that allright? | 01:51 |
| jrib | yep | 01:51 |
| _hopex | new.. | 01:51 |
| _hopex | dynamic... | 01:52 |
| _hopex | 10 Gb... | 01:52 |
| _hopex | Finish. is that allright? | 01:53 |
| jrib | yep | 01:58 |
| _hopex | done | 01:59 |
| _hopex | now i have to installl | 01:59 |
| _hopex | it's working... cool :) | 02:06 |
| _hopex | NTFS or FAT? | 02:07 |
| _hopex | jrib: NTS (fast) or just NTFS? Will it affect the performance? | 02:10 |
| jrib | _hopex: I don't know what NTS (fast) is | 02:11 |
| _hopex | jrib, Windows installation asks for formatting options, and it asks FAT or NTFS and if you want Fast formatting or normal. As It`s a clear "partition" I have selected fast format. Now it is copying 27% | 02:13 |
| _hopex | jrib: I see the Video Memory for the XP virtual box is just 8Mb, wont this limit the screen view? Can I change that? | 02:16 |
| _hopex | jrib: I want to use some graphical tools, that aren't still for linux, that`s why I'm installing the vbox and asking this question. | 02:17 |
| _hopex | jrib: it's really cool to see this win install in a small windows :D xD XD | 02:20 |
| _hopex | the innotek team has done a great job | 02:23 |
| _hopex | jrib: do I need to install the drivers and stuff after install, or they won't work or something? | 02:25 |
| jrib | _hopex: you should install guest additions | 02:32 |
| jrib | then you can use fullscreen etc | 02:32 |
| _hopex | WinXP is starting now... | 02:35 |
| _hopex | all is black.... Wellcome | 02:36 |
| _hopex | there it is the Messenger... oh my god! | 02:38 |
| _hopex | ok it is working, more or less. So if I install GPU drivers will there by any video issue? | 02:39 |
| _hopex | jrib: I will try | 02:41 |
| _hopex | jrib does the WinXP allways appear in all desktops at the same time? | 02:43 |
| _hopex | jrib: One important question. How can I copy stuff from "c:" or to "c:" ? | 02:51 |
| _hopex | jrib: vbox got a really goof help file. | 03:11 |
| _hopex | see you | 03:12 |
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