[02:52] <jjesse> !hobbsee
[02:52] <ubotu> I phear the stick so shhhhh
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> haha
[03:39] <posingaspopular> jjesse!
[03:40] <jjesse> posingaspopular: what's going on?
[03:40] <posingaspopular> not much, i haven't talked to you since you came to chicago
[03:40] <posingaspopular> <-paper/crazy night
[03:41] <jjesse> posingaspopular: yeah been busy
[03:42] <posingaspopular> jjesse: are you going to work on the hardy docs, or the ubuntu book again?
[03:43] <jjesse> posingaspopular: hopefully both
[03:43] <posingaspopular> nice. i'd like work on docs lots more this release but we'll see. the next two months are super busy
[03:48] <posingaspopular> i'd like to work some on packaging and more loco type stuff though, so we'll see where the priorites stuff. are you still doing lots of traveling?
[03:54] <jjesse> yeah i am,that's what i do for a living
[03:54] <jjesse> sorry a little slow responding, at UDS Boston
[03:55] <posingaspopular> how is that? i wish i coulda gone but im not a mad hacker like you, you know :(
[08:08] <mdke> morning all
[08:10] <posingaspopular> mdke: morning? it's 3am!
[08:11] <mdke> isn't that morning?
[08:11] <mdke> if it isn't, I don't know what it is
[08:12] <posingaspopular> it's 'night' if my clock is correct
[14:27] <michaelramm> QUESTION: Does working on your team wiki (AlabamaTeam US) count as the wiki experience that the doc team is looking for?
[14:28] <jjesse> michaelramm: i would vote that it does
[14:29] <michaelramm> cool, I would like to start with something like proofreading, but move up to WikiTeam eventually
[17:55] <konputer> Greetings
[17:57] <konputer> I've written some of the meat of a tutorial on how to move from ms exchange to a free mailserver using Maildirs and it happened to be under ubuntu. Do you think that this should be under ubuntu's docs or standalone faq/tutorial?
[17:59] <jjesse> konputer: on the help.ubuntu.com/community wiki would be a great place to start
[17:59] <jjesse> konputer: let me kow when you get it done, would love to read it :P
[17:59] <konputer> Well I'm as of yet not sure where to start
[17:59] <konputer> I have much of the process written down
[18:00] <konputer> but I'm not sure as to whether to write it as qmaiL-specific or just for any mail server that uses maildirs and can authenticate against pam
[18:00] <konputer> the key points that I haven't seen covered online anywhere are how to synch up the exchange tree with users' Maildirs
[18:01] <konputer> and how to get the linux mail server to authenticate against windows domain.
[20:17] <jjesse> who was the last person that worked on the serverguide?
[20:27] <jjesse> ok in a talk here, do you have to have differnt access to post on help.ubuntu.com/community?
[20:28] <sommer> jjesse: I've been submitting patches and from what I can tell an LP account gets you access.
[20:28] <jjesse> nixternal or mdke you there?
[21:08] <nixternal> jjesse: yo yo
[21:09] <jjesse> nixternal: is there a difference in acces between posting soemting to h.u.com/communit instead of w.u.c
[21:11] <nixternal> jjesse: I don't believe there is, I know with h.u.com though, not everyone can delete a page
[21:34] <ardchoille> I'd like to join the documentation team but I use Kubuntu. Will that be a problem?
[21:44] <nixternal> ardchoille: HECK NO!
[21:44] <nixternal> hehe
[21:44] <nixternal> you are just the poor sould I need
[21:44] <nixternal> I mean, great contributor I need :)
[21:44] <nixternal> to bad I write Kubuntu documentation and can't spell worth a damn
[21:45] <nixternal> s/sould/soul
[21:45] <ardchoille> hehe
[21:45] <ardchoille> Well, I'll introduce myself.
[21:45] <ardchoille> My name is Ian MacGregor, but I go by my online nick: ardchoille
[21:46] <ardchoille> I worked for a time for Mandrake Linux as their chief editor for their newsletter, and I also edited their website.
[21:46] <ardchoille> I took a lot of journalism in college and I like to write.
[21:46] <nixternal> well well well, you sound like the Mandrake version of me :)
[21:47] <nixternal> how are your docbook skills?
[21:47] <ardchoille> I joined the ubuntu-docs list so I should be hearing something from that soon.
[21:47] <ardchoille> I know nothing about Docbook XML but an really wanting to learn.
[21:47] <ardchoille> Is there an IDE for Docbook?
[21:47] <nixternal> oh man
[21:47] <nixternal> no IDE for it
[21:47] <nixternal> just Kate
[21:48] <ardchoille> I love Kate
[21:48] <nixternal> actually, as long as you can read and write english, you are da man!
[21:48] <ardchoille> :)
[21:48] <nixternal> if you can do html, then docbook/xml will come easy
[21:48] <ardchoille> I'm Scottish, but don't hold that against me :)
[21:48] <nixternal> hey, our leader of Kubuntu is Scottish, and we haven't held it against him yet
[21:48] <ardchoille> heh, I still write my webpages in html instead of using an IDE
[21:49] <nixternal> brb
[21:51] <nixternal> alrighty, back
[21:59] <ardchoille> The docs team hasn't had a meeting since July?
[21:59] <nixternal> probably not....we are a rather busy group and the people who contribute usually know what is going on ahead of time...most of us have been doing this since Ubuntu started
[21:59] <ardchoille> ok
[22:00] <nixternal> the mailing list is usually where a lot of our work with people who aren't so versed usually takes place
[22:00] <nixternal> we try to have a meeting though when we are about to do something big...other than that, our goal is just to document the OS, so following development is one of the biggest things
[22:01] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[22:10] <mdke> welcome aboard ardchoille
[22:11] <ardchoille> mdke: Thank you
[22:43]  * mdke goes through and merges / deletes a few team wiki pages
[22:44] <mdke> we have too much stuff around, best to keep things as simple as poss
[22:46] <ardchoille> Can I createmy own team wiki page? Or must I be an official team member first?
[22:46] <mdke> members of the team don't have wiki pages. You can create a personal page, sure - any user of the wiki should
[22:47] <ardchoille> ok
[22:47] <mdke> i mean, members of the team have wiki pages, but it's nothing to do with being a member of the team :)
[22:47] <mdke> clear as mud eh
[22:47] <ardchoille> hehe
[22:48] <nixternal> wasabi mr. matt!
[22:48] <mdke> hello
[22:49] <mdke> hmm, help.u.c still hasn't been updated
[22:50] <nixternal> ya, anything *.com has been a little slow around here
[22:51] <mdke> I mean, the 7.10 help hasn't been uploaded
[22:51] <nixternal> I thought you had access to that
[22:52] <mdke> no, you don't get access to some servers unless you are a canonical employee
[22:53] <nixternal> sue um!
[22:53] <nixternal> ;)
[22:53] <mdke> I have enough suing to do
[22:54] <mdke> it's nice to take a break from suing when I get home
[22:54] <nixternal> hhahaa
[23:02] <somerville32> mdke: You sue people for a living? lol