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ubotuDaSkreech called the ops in #kubuntu ()00:35
naliothso he did.00:37
mneptoknalioth: why +i for #kubuntu?00:39
naliothlong story00:43
naliothall leading up to neural failure00:43
Piciwhose?00:43
naliothmine.00:43
PiciSee, you could have blamed it one someone else and I would have believed you.00:44
ubotuIn ubotu, Taras said: what is a bot ?00:55
Picisigh.00:55
Pici!bot > taras00:56
PiciI doubt that will help though.00:56
ubotuIn ubotu, Taras said: what is your name ?00:56
jribheh00:56
LjL!b > taras    (taras, see the private message from Ubotu)00:56
ubotudasnipa called the ops in ubotu ()01:48
LjLhello, a bug01:48
ubotuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-bots (just a test)01:49
Seeker`LjL: try it with just !ops01:51
LjLSeeker`: it'll do just the same, the point is that it shouldn't react to queries made in -bots or in a PM. it's due to a change the seveas did earlier today.01:52
Seeker`LjL: will it still have the ()?01:52
LjLSeeker`: suppose so. if you're saying that's another bug in its own right... probably yes, though not really an important one01:53
ubotuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-bots ()01:53
Seeker`it would be "nicer" without the () with no content01:54
Seeker`and I agree that it isn't really important01:54
LjLbug #15918401:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 159184 in ubuntu-bots "!ops pings #ubuntu-ops even when called in PM or #ubuntu-bots" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15918401:56
naliothhas anyone heard of any problems with gpgme recently? NONE of the mail clients i've installed/compiled will work02:00
nalioththey all hang or lock up on gpg duties02:01
LjLnalioth, my kmail starts fine, and it sends gpg-signed mail fine too02:03
naliothLjL: does it use gpgme ?02:03
LjLnalioth: i have no idea, but you said that kmail too hung for you02:04
LjLnalioth: anyway it depends on libgpgme1102:04
* jdong lokk02:18
jdongerr02:18
* jdong looks at why he's joined to 17 channels now02:18
jdongsilly everyone calling ops :)02:18
mneptoki can't be saved from my ways. until she comes.02:20
tonyyarussojdong: only 17?02:22
jdongtonyyarusso: well before I left for office hours 3 hours ago, I was joined to 12 :)02:22
tonyyarussojdong: autojoin on ops?02:22
jdongtonyyarusso: yep02:22
mneptokaka the "Summon jdong Against His Will" command02:23
LjLLjL called the ops in #automatix02:23
jdongLjL: sorry, ubuntu/bot/* hostmask, #*buntu* only02:23
LjLjdong: i see02:24
jdongso something like....02:24
LjL... what's a #*ubuntu* channel you don't want to be in? :)02:24
jdong!test | LjL called ops in #kubuntu02:24
ubotuLjL called ops in #kubuntu: Failed.02:24
jdong!test | LjL called the ops in #kubuntu02:24
LjLjdong: or i just use ubotwo ;)02:24
ubotuLjL called the ops in #kubuntu: Failed.02:24
jdongnow I'm joined :)02:24
tonyyarussohehe02:25
* tonyyarusso makes note to wait for a rainy day and join jdong to all of the channels02:25
jdonglol02:25
jdongwell since it only listens in this channel I trust you guys not to join me to #goatsebuntu ;-)02:25
mneptok#ubuntu-cmu02:25
LjL!test | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ljl02:26
ubotuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ljl: Failed.02:26
LjLjdong: nah02:27
LjLjust ##windows02:27
jdonghaha02:27
jdongLjL: lol with a creative use of banforwards ;-)02:27
tonyyarussoLjL: You realize we could make #ubuntu-forward with a +f to send him anywhere?02:27
jdongyep02:27
LjLtonyyarusso: which is what i just did ;)02:27
tonyyarussoah, nice02:27
tonyyarussogreat minds think alike02:27
jdongevil minds think alike :P02:27
tonyyarussothat too02:28
mneptokplease be sure to renew your Assholes Guild membership. i wouldn't want to miss you at guild hall meetings!02:28
* nalioth owns the place.02:32
LjLi'll bring the drinks02:32
jdongmneptok: err.... what exactly happens at an Assholes Guild?02:33
* jdong is slightly worried ;-)02:33
LjLjdong: you get banforwarded to places you probably don't want to be in02:33
mneptokjdong: we play "Clench Until You Hear The Snap"02:33
jdonglol02:33
tonyyarussoeww02:34
no0ticin the Ass-holes Guild you must be watching goatse all day long..02:39
no0ticok ban me02:39
mneptoks/watching/living/02:39
* jdong can't get the picture of mako messing with goatse on an iPhone out of my mind02:39
tritiumtonyyarusso: what did you break?02:39
tonyyarussotritium: Hokay, so here's the deal:02:39
jdongwhen we unhacked his iPhone, the FIRST thing that he did was go to goatse on safari, then zoom the picture using the stretching gesture on the touchscreen02:40
jdongand that's about all he used his iPhone for too :)02:40
mneptokjdong: you want a scary mental image? Mako, Seth Schoen, and myself sharing a BART ride.02:40
tritiumhaha02:40
no0ticjdong, terrible02:40
no0ticjdong, disgusting02:40
jdongno0tic: yeah, but it was funny too02:40
jdongthat it was the first thing he decided to do after jailbreaking the firmware02:41
tonyyarussotritium: I'm using GMail's new IMAP, and transferred all of my old POP e-mails into it.  I'm on a lot of Ubuntu mailing lists, and have been using filters of syntax "If To or CC contains blah@lists.ubuntu.com, move message to folder Ubuntu/Lists/Blah".02:41
tritiumtonyyarusso: yeah...02:41
tonyyarussotritium: That would result in unread mail that was presorted into folders before.  Now, at first glance after fetching mail, it looks right, ie. in my folder list I'll have Ubuntu/Lists/Blah (5).  But, as soon as I click the folder name, it un-bolds, and all of the messages are marked as read.02:42
tonyyarussotritium: Additionally, if I log on to the web interface partway through the process, they are all already marked as read, even for ones where I haven't clicked the folder name yet.02:42
tritiumtonyyarusso: that's strange02:42
tonyyarussotritium: It seems that since GMail uses tags (or whatever it was called?) instead of real folders, the filter's "move" directive in TB is assigning a tag, and that process is marking the message as interacted with, or read.02:43
tritiumeww02:44
Hobbseeah, Seveas did step down.02:44
tonyyarussoI suppose I could probably do this better by setting up my filters on GMail's end, but this would have been easier.02:44
tonyyarussoHobbsee: you had an inkling he might I take it?02:44
Hobbseetonyyarusso: gmail doesnt support folder@email?02:45
tritiumHobbsee: from irc council?02:45
Hobbseeyes, of course.02:45
tonyyarussoHobbsee: I don't know?  I'm brand-new to this entire IMAP thing, so you'll need to talk slowly with me.02:45
tritiumsorry to hear about your troubles, tonyyarusso 02:45
LjLwell he said nov 102:45
Hobbseetonyyarusso: oh, i guess you werent in sevilla.02:45
Hobbseehis plan was not to be on the council in the first place02:46
Hobbseebut i think he effectively had to, when i turned it down.02:46
tonyyarussoHobbsee: No - I'm not special enough for UDS.02:46
tonyyarussoah02:46
Hobbseeit was via voip too02:46
tonyyarussoThese things like class and work and such get in the way.02:47
tonyyarussoSevilla was what, May?02:47
Hobbseeyeah.  beginning of, iirc.02:47
Hobbseeyeah, i know.  i have class and work, adn that's hte reasno i'm not there this time too02:48
tritiumWork is all-consuming02:48
tonyyarussoYeah, in May I was working like 50 hours a week, often in 12-hour days.02:48
Hobbseeyuck02:48
tonyyarussoSuch is spring in a bike shop02:48
tritiumtonyyarusso: bike as in bicycle, or motorcycle?02:49
tonyyarussotritium: bicycle02:49
tritiumah, cool02:50
tonyyarussotritium: any thoughts on workarounds for TB?02:57
tritiumtonyyarusso: no, sorry.02:57
tonyyarussok03:01
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tonyyarussotritium: maybe a server-side issue.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36118203:08
ubotuMozilla bug 361182 in Mail Window Front End "IMAP mail moved by filter incorrectly marked as read" [Major,Resolved: invalid] 03:08
elkbuntui so need to stop highlighting on 'automatix'... i keep going blind to the contents of red factoid and assuming they're the op call03:26
naliothelkbuntu: but they are "op calls"03:31
elkbuntulol03:32
elkbuntuthat's kinda why i do it, but i just told someone off for the 'emergency call'03:33
naliothautomatix advisors are calling for op intervention03:35
tonyyarussohaha, oops03:35
naliothand automatix questors are REALLY in need of intervention03:35
elkbuntunalioth, i told an automatix factoid caller off, for calling the factoid on someone03:36
naliothah03:36
naliothban everyone.03:36
mneptokand Freenode edges closer to being EF ...04:01
elkbuntumneptok, you're watching -offtopic again?04:22
no0tichow many international #ubuntu-something channels are there?04:24
naliothno0tic: /msg chanerv list #ubuntu-*04:24
no0ticnalioth, it lists me only local channels.. I don't know why04:25
naliothme, neither.04:25
naliothawww  :(04:25
no0ticnalioth, oh, yes, it lists only the first 100 entries04:25
naliothi'm hurt, no0tic 04:26
nalioth"Not accepting messages from people"04:26
mneptokelkbuntu: my comment was in reference to  <+nalioth> ban everyone.04:56
naliothmneptok: admit it, you're the mysterious founder of efnet04:58
mneptoknalioth: i'm nasty, but that hurts.04:59
naliothamoebas feel pain?05:00
mneptoki thought we had something special ...05:14
naliothwe do.  we are on the same planet.05:19
JanCnalioth: as you are freenode staff and seemingly not asleep :) , can you lift the 20-channel-limit on Freenode, or should I ask that in #freenode or something like that?05:25
naliothJanC: lift the limit on who?05:43
JanCon me  :)05:43
naliothdunno if we lift the limits on boozers05:44
JanCnalioth: thanks!  :-)05:45
Hobbseelaunchpad bug  #15514406:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 155144 in kdelibs "KSelectAction stopped working for custom values" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15514406:13
Hobbsee!pinning06:33
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto06:33
HobbseeLP: 11489307:05
Hobbseebug 11489307:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114893 in gnome-hearts "Shooting the moon with the bonus diamond results in incorrect scoring" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11489307:05
naliothalrighty then.07:07
Hobbseeoh, decent bots is in -bugs07:32
SWATShouldn't the IRC team cover the LoCo channels too? Or should this remain optional?09:05
no0ticnovember, the first, holiday, #ubuntu-it has become a nursery09:19
dgjoneshi, could somebody put one of the bots to sleep in #ubuntu, ubotu and ubot3 are both answering any factoid queries09:58
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ubotuIn ubotu, Pici said: seveas =~ s/repository/repository for Feisty and earlier/11:38
Picioops.11:39
ThunderStruckSeveas, if your around can you please resync ubotu to debian bug tracker13:35
SeveasThunderStruck, there is no such thing as a resync...13:40
Seveasit fetches data when asked13:40
ThunderStruckit fails to13:41
ThunderStruckubotu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: timed out13:41
Seveasthen the bugtracker is down :)13:46
ThunderStrucki was able to go to it through website, because that is what i thought as well, oh and emailing the bugtracker works as well13:47
Seveasit uses the soap proxy at bugs.donarmstrong.com13:47
ThunderStruckthe bot does?13:47
Seveasit had to, bugs.debian.org didn't do soap13:48
ThunderStruckah ok13:48
Seveasit does now, changed the plugin :)13:48
Seveasdebian bug 40000113:48
ubotuDebian bug 400001 in python-support "python-support should warn and not fail when some files can't be byte-compiled" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/40000113:48
ThunderStruckah cool ty 13:49
Seveasdebian bug 40000213:50
ubotuDebian bug 400002 in gaim "gaim segfaults in DigestCalcResponse()" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/40000213:50
ubotuIn ubotu, [ifr0g] said: !a is b14:31
ubotuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (sorry, just testing)14:38
tonyyarussooh hey14:39
tonyyarussocool14:39
ubotuIn ubotu, [ifr0g] said: !forgotpass is <reply> Boot-up the computer, If GRUB menu is hidden, press 'Esc' to enter the GRUB menu, Press 'e' to edit the boot command, Add "rw init=/bin/bash" to the end of the arguments, Press 'b' to boot.14:40
SeveasLjL, bug 159184 fixed14:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 159184 in ubuntu-bots "!ops pings #ubuntu-ops even when called in PM or #ubuntu-bots" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15918414:42
PiciNeat :)14:43
Hobbsee!ping15:07
ubotupong15:07
* tonyyarusso wonders why the convertit guy is on his hilights list - Pici ?15:19
Picitonyyarusso: hm.. I dont know.15:19
tonyyarussoponder ponder15:19
PriceChildSeveas, just wondering.... will that work with variations of ops, like !ops-#kubuntu ?15:39
Seveasno15:40
Seveaswel....15:40
Seveasit won't work with !ops-#kubuntu, but it should work as !ops in #kubuntu15:40
PriceChildyeah, cool :)15:40
Seveas!ops-#ubuntu-ops is moo15:40
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas15:40
Seveas!ops15:40
ubotuops is moo15:40
ubotuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()15:40
PriceChildhehe15:41
Seveas!forget ops-#ubuntu-ops15:41
ubotuI'll forget that, Seveas15:41
Picineat15:41
Dave2calling the ops in #ubuntu-ops. How meta.15:41
Amaranthwhat?15:50
PiciNot what.  When.15:51
AmaranthWhere?15:51
Daviey216:08
mneptokelkbuntu: http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSSYD2106482007110116:33
no0ticI need to thank nalioth that advised me to use irssi, it's great; another irc experience16:35
jdongno0tic: irssi is great; I switched to it and never looked back16:37
no0ticjdong, now it's easy to make a trigger when I join saying /me is etc .. ;)16:40
naliothno0tic: you can use irssi with screen and access it from anywhere in the world (that has a network access)17:03
no0ticnalioth, I'm using it via screen on a remote machine :)17:04
Picias I I :)17:04
naliothno0tic: excellent  :)17:05
Picis/*/as am I/17:05
no0ticnalioth, and it sets me away when I detach the console :)17:05
jdongno0tic: you can also use a combination of irssi-proxy and irssi with screen to get scrollback and have a "local" irssi to type into so that sshlag isn't too bothering17:06
jdongno0tic: and you can even use my preforked pooling ping notifier to deliver pings to 10k+ clients ;-)17:07
Picinalioth: you might want to take a look at spine, he just spammed up #ubuntu and probably is doing it other places too17:07
jdongbut I don't recommend that :)17:07
Davieyirssi also works on some mobiles/cells17:07
jdongthat's jdong rube goldbergness17:07
Davieyirssi and gui notifications rock17:08
jdongyes it does :)17:09
PiciAgreed.  I hacked together an addition notify script that uses the libnotify critical status for things like ops, and the dcc stuff17:09
DavieyI quite like split windows, to have a "hilight" window at the top17:10
jdongyeah right now I use a ssh port-forwarded tunnel to connect my clients to irssi; I've got client-sides that output to the host OS's preferred notifier stack17:12
jdongand the server side uses SQLite to keep track of client ID's and which pings they've received17:12
naliothPici: thanks, another staffer punched his k-ticket17:12
Davieyjdong: you are keen!17:12
jdongI need a ping-clearing mechanism (marking away/unaway at the server)17:12
DavieyI did set up a 'ticker' for hilights on my mythtv - but that quickly became annoying17:13
jdongDaviey: just unwise in spending my time :)17:13
jdongsounds cool17:13
mneptokjdong: now all it needs is a complex systeam of cast iron gears and some Lisp!17:13
jdongmneptok: apparmoring the stack right now ;-)17:14
jdongI don't trust my network programming foo17:14
mneptokCHUGGA CHUGGA17:14
PiciCHOO CHOO17:14
Garywhoop whoop17:14
mneptokGary: stop swinging the caboose like that. it's distracting.17:14
Garyswinging what?17:15
mneptokthank you. and now i need a smoke. phew.17:15
* jdong backs up....17:15
Garylol17:15
* Seveas gets the hell out of here17:16
jdongerr, *away*17:16
jdongas in away17:16
jdongHaha, we're talking retroviruses in bio right now....17:16
* Gary tickles Seveas 17:16
jdongand step 1 of the cycle on the powerpoint was summed up to "penetration"17:17
Garydid you giggle?17:17
jdongGary: of course17:17
jdongGary: I can't for the life of me figure out if the pun was intended17:17
GaryI had to say wankel engine the other day, it made me giggle17:17
jdongespecially since the example specimen is HIV17:17
gnomefreakjdong: unless your instructor has a sense of humor pun wasnt intented atleast nerver was with any of mine17:26
jdonggnomefreak: he has a weird sense of humor though.... on a test we had to fill out and analyze a pedigree for "being hit by a bus" running in the family17:27
gnomefreakthan pun might have been intended ;)17:27
gnomefreakgod i hope this works17:27
ubotuIn ubotu, [ifr0g] said: flv is <reply> A Macromedia Flash MX video file in which the video and audio are compressed. To add flv support : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:43
jdongok, that's unnecessarily technical17:47
jdong*adobe* Flash too17:47
Seveas!flv is <alias> restricted17:47
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas17:47
Seveas!resticted17:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:48
Seveas!restricted17:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:48
jdongbetter17:48
ubotuIn ubotu, kl4m said: autologin is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30331918:00
PriceChildHey Pskol, how's things?18:59
Pskoli want to cloak my host with "ubuntu/member", can i?19:01
PiciPskol: Are you an Ubuntu Member?19:01
PskolPici, what is a ubuntu member?19:01
LjL!member19:02
ubotuWant to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember19:02
naliothubotu: tell Pskol about member19:02
Pskolim registered at lauchpad, is this iok?19:02
PriceChildPskol, read the link...19:02
Pskolok19:02
PriceChildPskol, did you get the information you needed?19:54
PskolPriceChild, yes, thanks20:39
ubotunickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (matt__)21:45
PiciActually this guy brought up a good point, I dont see o4o on the IRC guidelines page (which we should link to in the topic)21:55
tonyyarussoProbably a sensible addition21:57
no0ticattack on #debian-it stay tuned23:14
jribyay no0tic is voiced23:15
no0ticjrib, yeah23:16
no0ticthere was an annoying attack on #debian-it: mass join and /say, nothing harmful23:17
naliothtrolls in #ubuntu 23:50

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