[00:35] <ubotu> DaSkreech called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[00:37] <nalioth> so he did.
[00:39] <mneptok> nalioth: why +i for #kubuntu?
[00:43] <nalioth> long story
[00:43] <nalioth> all leading up to neural failure
[00:43] <Pici> whose?
[00:43] <nalioth> mine.
[00:44] <Pici> See, you could have blamed it one someone else and I would have believed you.
[00:55] <ubotu> In ubotu, Taras said: what is a bot ?
[00:55] <Pici> sigh.
[00:56] <Pici> !bot > taras
[00:56] <Pici> I doubt that will help though.
[00:56] <ubotu> In ubotu, Taras said: what is your name ?
[00:56] <jrib> heh
[00:56] <LjL> !b > taras    (taras, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:48] <ubotu> dasnipa called the ops in ubotu ()
[01:48] <LjL> hello, a bug
[01:49] <ubotu> LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-bots (just a test)
[01:51] <Seeker`> LjL: try it with just !ops
[01:52] <LjL> Seeker`: it'll do just the same, the point is that it shouldn't react to queries made in -bots or in a PM. it's due to a change the seveas did earlier today.
[01:52] <Seeker`> LjL: will it still have the ()?
[01:53] <LjL> Seeker`: suppose so. if you're saying that's another bug in its own right... probably yes, though not really an important one
[01:53] <ubotu> LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-bots ()
[01:54] <Seeker`> it would be "nicer" without the () with no content
[01:54] <Seeker`> and I agree that it isn't really important
[01:56] <LjL> bug #159184
[01:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 159184 in ubuntu-bots "!ops pings #ubuntu-ops even when called in PM or #ubuntu-bots" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159184
[02:00] <nalioth> has anyone heard of any problems with gpgme recently? NONE of the mail clients i've installed/compiled will work
[02:01] <nalioth> they all hang or lock up on gpg duties
[02:03] <LjL> nalioth, my kmail starts fine, and it sends gpg-signed mail fine too
[02:03] <nalioth> LjL: does it use gpgme ?
[02:04] <LjL> nalioth: i have no idea, but you said that kmail too hung for you
[02:04] <LjL> nalioth: anyway it depends on libgpgme11
[02:18]  * jdong lokk
[02:18] <jdong> err
[02:18]  * jdong looks at why he's joined to 17 channels now
[02:18] <jdong> silly everyone calling ops :)
[02:20] <mneptok> i can't be saved from my ways. until she comes.
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> jdong: only 17?
[02:22] <jdong> tonyyarusso: well before I left for office hours 3 hours ago, I was joined to 12 :)
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> jdong: autojoin on ops?
[02:22] <jdong> tonyyarusso: yep
[02:23] <mneptok> aka the "Summon jdong Against His Will" command
[02:23] <LjL> LjL called the ops in #automatix
[02:23] <jdong> LjL: sorry, ubuntu/bot/* hostmask, #*buntu* only
[02:24] <LjL> jdong: i see
[02:24] <jdong> so something like....
[02:24] <LjL> ... what's a #*ubuntu* channel you don't want to be in? :)
[02:24] <jdong> !test | LjL called ops in #kubuntu
[02:24] <ubotu> LjL called ops in #kubuntu: Failed.
[02:24] <jdong> !test | LjL called the ops in #kubuntu
[02:24] <LjL> jdong: or i just use ubotwo ;)
[02:24] <ubotu> LjL called the ops in #kubuntu: Failed.
[02:24] <jdong> now I'm joined :)
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[02:25]  * tonyyarusso makes note to wait for a rainy day and join jdong to all of the channels
[02:25] <jdong> lol
[02:25] <jdong> well since it only listens in this channel I trust you guys not to join me to #goatsebuntu ;-)
[02:25] <mneptok> #ubuntu-cmu
[02:26] <LjL> !test | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ljl
[02:26] <ubotu> LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ljl: Failed.
[02:27] <LjL> jdong: nah
[02:27] <LjL> just ##windows
[02:27] <jdong> haha
[02:27] <jdong> LjL: lol with a creative use of banforwards ;-)
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> LjL: You realize we could make #ubuntu-forward with a +f to send him anywhere?
[02:27] <jdong> yep
[02:27] <LjL> tonyyarusso: which is what i just did ;)
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> ah, nice
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> great minds think alike
[02:27] <jdong> evil minds think alike :P
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> that too
[02:28] <mneptok> please be sure to renew your Assholes Guild membership. i wouldn't want to miss you at guild hall meetings!
[02:32]  * nalioth owns the place.
[02:32] <LjL> i'll bring the drinks
[02:33] <jdong> mneptok: err.... what exactly happens at an Assholes Guild?
[02:33]  * jdong is slightly worried ;-)
[02:33] <LjL> jdong: you get banforwarded to places you probably don't want to be in
[02:33] <mneptok> jdong: we play "Clench Until You Hear The Snap"
[02:33] <jdong> lol
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> eww
[02:39] <no0tic> in the Ass-holes Guild you must be watching goatse all day long..
[02:39] <no0tic> ok ban me
[02:39] <mneptok> s/watching/living/
[02:39]  * jdong can't get the picture of mako messing with goatse on an iPhone out of my mind
[02:39] <tritium> tonyyarusso: what did you break?
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> tritium: Hokay, so here's the deal:
[02:40] <jdong> when we unhacked his iPhone, the FIRST thing that he did was go to goatse on safari, then zoom the picture using the stretching gesture on the touchscreen
[02:40] <jdong> and that's about all he used his iPhone for too :)
[02:40] <mneptok> jdong: you want a scary mental image? Mako, Seth Schoen, and myself sharing a BART ride.
[02:40] <tritium> haha
[02:40] <no0tic> jdong, terrible
[02:40] <no0tic> jdong, disgusting
[02:40] <jdong> no0tic: yeah, but it was funny too
[02:41] <jdong> that it was the first thing he decided to do after jailbreaking the firmware
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> tritium: I'm using GMail's new IMAP, and transferred all of my old POP e-mails into it.  I'm on a lot of Ubuntu mailing lists, and have been using filters of syntax "If To or CC contains blah@lists.ubuntu.com, move message to folder Ubuntu/Lists/Blah".
[02:41] <tritium> tonyyarusso: yeah...
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> tritium: That would result in unread mail that was presorted into folders before.  Now, at first glance after fetching mail, it looks right, ie. in my folder list I'll have Ubuntu/Lists/Blah (5).  But, as soon as I click the folder name, it un-bolds, and all of the messages are marked as read.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> tritium: Additionally, if I log on to the web interface partway through the process, they are all already marked as read, even for ones where I haven't clicked the folder name yet.
[02:42] <tritium> tonyyarusso: that's strange
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> tritium: It seems that since GMail uses tags (or whatever it was called?) instead of real folders, the filter's "move" directive in TB is assigning a tag, and that process is marking the message as interacted with, or read.
[02:44] <tritium> eww
[02:44] <Hobbsee> ah, Seveas did step down.
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> I suppose I could probably do this better by setting up my filters on GMail's end, but this would have been easier.
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: you had an inkling he might I take it?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: gmail doesnt support folder@email?
[02:45] <tritium> Hobbsee: from irc council?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> yes, of course.
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: I don't know?  I'm brand-new to this entire IMAP thing, so you'll need to talk slowly with me.
[02:45] <tritium> sorry to hear about your troubles, tonyyarusso 
[02:45] <LjL> well he said nov 1
[02:45] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: oh, i guess you werent in sevilla.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> his plan was not to be on the council in the first place
[02:46] <Hobbsee> but i think he effectively had to, when i turned it down.
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: No - I'm not special enough for UDS.
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> ah
[02:46] <Hobbsee> it was via voip too
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> These things like class and work and such get in the way.
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> Sevilla was what, May?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> yeah.  beginning of, iirc.
[02:48] <Hobbsee> yeah, i know.  i have class and work, adn that's hte reasno i'm not there this time too
[02:48] <tritium> Work is all-consuming
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, in May I was working like 50 hours a week, often in 12-hour days.
[02:48] <Hobbsee> yuck
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> Such is spring in a bike shop
[02:49] <tritium> tonyyarusso: bike as in bicycle, or motorcycle?
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> tritium: bicycle
[02:50] <tritium> ah, cool
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> tritium: any thoughts on workarounds for TB?
[02:57] <tritium> tonyyarusso: no, sorry.
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> k
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> tritium: maybe a server-side issue.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361182
[03:08] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 361182 in Mail Window Front End "IMAP mail moved by filter incorrectly marked as read" [Major,Resolved: invalid] 
[03:26] <elkbuntu> i so need to stop highlighting on 'automatix'... i keep going blind to the contents of red factoid and assuming they're the op call
[03:31] <nalioth> elkbuntu: but they are "op calls"
[03:32] <elkbuntu> lol
[03:33] <elkbuntu> that's kinda why i do it, but i just told someone off for the 'emergency call'
[03:35] <nalioth> automatix advisors are calling for op intervention
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> haha, oops
[03:35] <nalioth> and automatix questors are REALLY in need of intervention
[03:36] <elkbuntu> nalioth, i told an automatix factoid caller off, for calling the factoid on someone
[03:36] <nalioth> ah
[03:36] <nalioth> ban everyone.
[04:01] <mneptok> and Freenode edges closer to being EF ...
[04:22] <elkbuntu> mneptok, you're watching -offtopic again?
[04:24] <no0tic> how many international #ubuntu-something channels are there?
[04:24] <nalioth> no0tic: /msg chanerv list #ubuntu-*
[04:25] <no0tic> nalioth, it lists me only local channels.. I don't know why
[04:25] <nalioth> me, neither.
[04:25] <nalioth> awww  :(
[04:25] <no0tic> nalioth, oh, yes, it lists only the first 100 entries
[04:26] <nalioth> i'm hurt, no0tic 
[04:26] <nalioth> "Not accepting messages from people"
[04:56] <mneptok> elkbuntu: my comment was in reference to  <+nalioth> ban everyone.
[04:58] <nalioth> mneptok: admit it, you're the mysterious founder of efnet
[04:59] <mneptok> nalioth: i'm nasty, but that hurts.
[05:00] <nalioth> amoebas feel pain?
[05:14] <mneptok> i thought we had something special ...
[05:19] <nalioth> we do.  we are on the same planet.
[05:25] <JanC> nalioth: as you are freenode staff and seemingly not asleep :) , can you lift the 20-channel-limit on Freenode, or should I ask that in #freenode or something like that?
[05:43] <nalioth> JanC: lift the limit on who?
[05:43] <JanC> on me  :)
[05:44] <nalioth> dunno if we lift the limits on boozers
[05:45] <JanC> nalioth: thanks!  :-)
[06:13] <Hobbsee> launchpad bug  #155144
[06:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 155144 in kdelibs "KSelectAction stopped working for custom values" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155144
[06:33] <Hobbsee> !pinning
[06:33] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[07:05] <Hobbsee> LP: 114893
[07:05] <Hobbsee> bug 114893
[07:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114893 in gnome-hearts "Shooting the moon with the bonus diamond results in incorrect scoring" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114893
[07:07] <nalioth> alrighty then.
[07:32] <Hobbsee> oh, decent bots is in -bugs
[09:05] <SWAT> Shouldn't the IRC team cover the LoCo channels too? Or should this remain optional?
[09:19] <no0tic> november, the first, holiday, #ubuntu-it has become a nursery
[09:58] <dgjones> hi, could somebody put one of the bots to sleep in #ubuntu, ubotu and ubot3 are both answering any factoid queries
[11:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pici said: seveas =~ s/repository/repository for Feisty and earlier/
[11:39] <Pici> oops.
[13:35] <ThunderStruck> Seveas, if your around can you please resync ubotu to debian bug tracker
[13:40] <Seveas> ThunderStruck, there is no such thing as a resync...
[13:40] <Seveas> it fetches data when asked
[13:41] <ThunderStruck> it fails to
[13:41] <ThunderStruck> ubotu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: timed out
[13:46] <Seveas> then the bugtracker is down :)
[13:47] <ThunderStruck> i was able to go to it through website, because that is what i thought as well, oh and emailing the bugtracker works as well
[13:47] <Seveas> it uses the soap proxy at bugs.donarmstrong.com
[13:47] <ThunderStruck> the bot does?
[13:48] <Seveas> it had to, bugs.debian.org didn't do soap
[13:48] <ThunderStruck> ah ok
[13:48] <Seveas> it does now, changed the plugin :)
[13:48] <Seveas> debian bug 400001
[13:48] <ubotu> Debian bug 400001 in python-support "python-support should warn and not fail when some files can't be byte-compiled" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/400001
[13:49] <ThunderStruck> ah cool ty 
[13:50] <Seveas> debian bug 400002
[13:50] <ubotu> Debian bug 400002 in gaim "gaim segfaults in DigestCalcResponse()" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/400002
[14:31] <ubotu> In ubotu, [ifr0g] said: !a is b
[14:38] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (sorry, just testing)
[14:39] <tonyyarusso> oh hey
[14:39] <tonyyarusso> cool
[14:40] <ubotu> In ubotu, [ifr0g] said: !forgotpass is <reply> Boot-up the computer, If GRUB menu is hidden, press 'Esc' to enter the GRUB menu, Press 'e' to edit the boot command, Add "rw init=/bin/bash" to the end of the arguments, Press 'b' to boot.
[14:42] <Seveas> LjL, bug 159184 fixed
[14:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 159184 in ubuntu-bots "!ops pings #ubuntu-ops even when called in PM or #ubuntu-bots" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159184
[14:43] <Pici> Neat :)
[15:07] <Hobbsee> !ping
[15:07] <ubotu> pong
[15:19]  * tonyyarusso wonders why the convertit guy is on his hilights list - Pici ?
[15:19] <Pici> tonyyarusso: hm.. I dont know.
[15:19] <tonyyarusso> ponder ponder
[15:39] <PriceChild> Seveas, just wondering.... will that work with variations of ops, like !ops-#kubuntu ?
[15:40] <Seveas> no
[15:40] <Seveas> wel....
[15:40] <Seveas> it won't work with !ops-#kubuntu, but it should work as !ops in #kubuntu
[15:40] <PriceChild> yeah, cool :)
[15:40] <Seveas> !ops-#ubuntu-ops is moo
[15:40] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[15:40] <Seveas> !ops
[15:40] <ubotu> ops is moo
[15:40] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()
[15:41] <PriceChild> hehe
[15:41] <Seveas> !forget ops-#ubuntu-ops
[15:41] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[15:41] <Pici> neat
[15:41] <Dave2> calling the ops in #ubuntu-ops. How meta.
[15:50] <Amaranth> what?
[15:51] <Pici> Not what.  When.
[15:51] <Amaranth> Where?
[16:08] <Daviey> 2
[16:33] <mneptok> elkbuntu: http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSSYD21064820071101
[16:35] <no0tic> I need to thank nalioth that advised me to use irssi, it's great; another irc experience
[16:37] <jdong> no0tic: irssi is great; I switched to it and never looked back
[16:40] <no0tic> jdong, now it's easy to make a trigger when I join saying /me is etc .. ;)
[17:03] <nalioth> no0tic: you can use irssi with screen and access it from anywhere in the world (that has a network access)
[17:04] <no0tic> nalioth, I'm using it via screen on a remote machine :)
[17:04] <Pici> as I I :)
[17:05] <nalioth> no0tic: excellent  :)
[17:05] <Pici> s/*/as am I/
[17:05] <no0tic> nalioth, and it sets me away when I detach the console :)
[17:06] <jdong> no0tic: you can also use a combination of irssi-proxy and irssi with screen to get scrollback and have a "local" irssi to type into so that sshlag isn't too bothering
[17:07] <jdong> no0tic: and you can even use my preforked pooling ping notifier to deliver pings to 10k+ clients ;-)
[17:07] <Pici> nalioth: you might want to take a look at spine, he just spammed up #ubuntu and probably is doing it other places too
[17:07] <jdong> but I don't recommend that :)
[17:07] <Daviey> irssi also works on some mobiles/cells
[17:07] <jdong> that's jdong rube goldbergness
[17:08] <Daviey> irssi and gui notifications rock
[17:09] <jdong> yes it does :)
[17:09] <Pici> Agreed.  I hacked together an addition notify script that uses the libnotify critical status for things like ops, and the dcc stuff
[17:10] <Daviey> I quite like split windows, to have a "hilight" window at the top
[17:12] <jdong> yeah right now I use a ssh port-forwarded tunnel to connect my clients to irssi; I've got client-sides that output to the host OS's preferred notifier stack
[17:12] <jdong> and the server side uses SQLite to keep track of client ID's and which pings they've received
[17:12] <nalioth> Pici: thanks, another staffer punched his k-ticket
[17:12] <Daviey> jdong: you are keen!
[17:12] <jdong> I need a ping-clearing mechanism (marking away/unaway at the server)
[17:13] <Daviey> I did set up a 'ticker' for hilights on my mythtv - but that quickly became annoying
[17:13] <jdong> Daviey: just unwise in spending my time :)
[17:13] <jdong> sounds cool
[17:13] <mneptok> jdong: now all it needs is a complex systeam of cast iron gears and some Lisp!
[17:14] <jdong> mneptok: apparmoring the stack right now ;-)
[17:14] <jdong> I don't trust my network programming foo
[17:14] <mneptok> CHUGGA CHUGGA
[17:14] <Pici> CHOO CHOO
[17:14] <Gary> whoop whoop
[17:14] <mneptok> Gary: stop swinging the caboose like that. it's distracting.
[17:15] <Gary> swinging what?
[17:15] <mneptok> thank you. and now i need a smoke. phew.
[17:15]  * jdong backs up....
[17:15] <Gary> lol
[17:16]  * Seveas gets the hell out of here
[17:16] <jdong> err, *away*
[17:16] <jdong> as in away
[17:16] <jdong> Haha, we're talking retroviruses in bio right now....
[17:16]  * Gary tickles Seveas 
[17:17] <jdong> and step 1 of the cycle on the powerpoint was summed up to "penetration"
[17:17] <Gary> did you giggle?
[17:17] <jdong> Gary: of course
[17:17] <jdong> Gary: I can't for the life of me figure out if the pun was intended
[17:17] <Gary> I had to say wankel engine the other day, it made me giggle
[17:17] <jdong> especially since the example specimen is HIV
[17:26] <gnomefreak> jdong: unless your instructor has a sense of humor pun wasnt intented atleast nerver was with any of mine
[17:27] <jdong> gnomefreak: he has a weird sense of humor though.... on a test we had to fill out and analyze a pedigree for "being hit by a bus" running in the family
[17:27] <gnomefreak> than pun might have been intended ;)
[17:27] <gnomefreak> god i hope this works
[17:43] <ubotu> In ubotu, [ifr0g] said: flv is <reply> A Macromedia Flash MX video file in which the video and audio are compressed. To add flv support : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:47] <jdong> ok, that's unnecessarily technical
[17:47] <jdong> *adobe* Flash too
[17:47] <Seveas> !flv is <alias> restricted
[17:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[17:48] <Seveas> !resticted
[17:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:48] <Seveas> !restricted
[17:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:48] <jdong> better
[18:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, kl4m said: autologin is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303319
[18:59] <PriceChild> Hey Pskol, how's things?
[19:01] <Pskol> i want to cloak my host with "ubuntu/member", can i?
[19:01] <Pici> Pskol: Are you an Ubuntu Member?
[19:01] <Pskol> Pici, what is a ubuntu member?
[19:02] <LjL> !member
[19:02] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[19:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Pskol about member
[19:02] <Pskol> im registered at lauchpad, is this iok?
[19:02] <PriceChild> Pskol, read the link...
[19:02] <Pskol> ok
[19:54] <PriceChild> Pskol, did you get the information you needed?
[20:39] <Pskol> PriceChild, yes, thanks
[21:45] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (matt__)
[21:55] <Pici> Actually this guy brought up a good point, I dont see o4o on the IRC guidelines page (which we should link to in the topic)
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> Probably a sensible addition
[23:14] <no0tic> attack on #debian-it stay tuned
[23:15] <jrib> yay no0tic is voiced
[23:16] <no0tic> jrib, yeah
[23:17] <no0tic> there was an annoying attack on #debian-it: mass join and /say, nothing harmful
[23:50] <nalioth> trolls in #ubuntu