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levanderWhere is the default runlevel specified?  I have no /etc/inittab on this Gutsy box.  Did they do away with /etc/inittab?05:31
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lousygaruasorry n00b, how do i compare strings in bash? if [ $1=='something' ]13:07
sorenif [ "$1" = 'foobar' ]; then echo \$1 is foobar; fi13:14
sorenman test13:15
lousygaruasoren, yeah thanks i got it13:16
^robertjwhere is setup done for the perc5i raid controller? mine was supposed to come factory configured w/ a 5-disk raid 5 but it didn't14:19
^robertjlvm is only for configuring software raid?14:20
avatar_lvm is different from software raid14:20
avatar_md / mdadm is for configuring software raid14:21
^robertjavatar_: the tutorials say you add devices to the md set by referencing /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb2 etc, but that doesn't seem to make sense for hardware raid14:27
avatar_hardware is configure in the bios of the raid controller14:29
^robertjavatar: is that accessible through the motherboard's bios then or by some custom util?14:29
avatar_bios of the raid controller14:30
avatar_most time accesible at boot time14:30
^robertjahh14:30
avatar_by hitting ctrl-m14:30
^robertjill go reboot and watch carefully14:30
^robertjback to the wind-tunnel14:30
avatar_or another keystroke14:30
^robertjavatar_ ahh, there is a "Tools" Menu that gives you the option to do Ctl+r to set it up, after that it seems easy enough14:35
^robertjThe only RAID i've done before has been on macs where there are vendor-specific vendor-utilities for doing that stuff14:35
mralphabet^robertj: hardware raid is 99% of the time configured at the bios level in pc architecture14:38
mralphabet^robertj: software raid would be configured in the OS14:38
avatar_perc5 with raid5?14:38
avatar_last week i heard some people complaining about performance with raid5/perc514:39
^robertjavatar_: I'll let you know how it turns out14:43
^robertjhrmm, does it normally take 20 minutes to create a 3TB ext3 fs?14:52
donspauldingcan anyone tell me why my script, linked into /etc/cron.daily/ doesn't run?  both the script and the link have read+execute perms.15:42
mralphabetdonspaulding: do you have #!/bin/sh at the top of it?15:44
donspauldingyes15:44
donspauldingbecause I'd run into that before :-)  but this time I'm stumped15:45
* mralphabet dunno's15:45
donspauldingdoes anacron log to /var/log/syslog?15:45
^robertjhrmm, any reason that grub shouldn't install to the mbr of a hardware raid device?15:58
sommerdonspaulding: if you do grep -i cron /var/log/sylog is there any entries about your script?15:59
mralphabethardware raid has an mbr?16:01
^robertjmralphabet: i figured it pretended to have one16:02
donspauldingsommer: looking right now16:02
donspauldingsyslog is big on this box16:02
^robertjmralphabet: do you just install it to your /dev/md0 device?16:02
mralphabetmd0 is software raid16:03
^robertjerr your right16:03
mralphabetin my storage server I have 2x80 that I use mdadm on to mirror the OS16:04
mralphabetI try not to have the OS and the storage array be the same thing16:04
^robertjmralphabet: should entering /dev/sda1 as the path for grub install make it happy supposing that / really does live on sda1?16:09
mralphabet^robertj: let me check my grub conf16:09
^robertjthats the kind of path it seems to suggest in the installer but its just throwing a generic kinda of no message, and I was wondering if i was doing something wrong agian or if it was time to dig to find out what the problem is16:10
mralphabet^robertj: what media are you using to install? 7.10 server?16:11
mralphabet^robertj: but yes, that should be it16:12
^robertjmralphabet: yeah 7.10 server16:12
^robertjfdisk -l lists it as /dev/sda1 with /dev/sda2 being swap, which is how autop-config did it16:13
mralphabetyeah16:13
^robertjthe files in /var/log/ don't seem to be of much help and running grub-installer -no-floppy "/dev/sda1" just gives me a blue screen and hten dumps me silently to prompt16:13
mralphabetthe installer should be doing this for you16:15
mralphabetdid you quit out of it?16:16
^robertjno16:16
^robertjits still running in another vtty16:16
^robertjbut it just said it had a fatal error16:16
mralphabetahh16:16
mralphabetgotcha16:16
donspauldingsommer: thanks for the help, it appears cron hasn't been running at all for the last 2 weeks.  Ouch.16:17
donspauldingsommer: make that hasn't been running for one week.  This is what did it, does it look familiar?16:19
donspauldingOct 24 11:43:35 mta1 kernel: [1969908.736966] cron invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201d2, order=0, oomkilladj=016:19
donspauldingOct 24 11:43:35 mta1 kernel: [1969908.746049] No available memory (MPOL_BIND): kill process 4135 (cron) score 0 or a child16:19
donspauldingOct 24 11:43:35 mta1 kernel: [1969908.746109] Killed process 4135 (cron)16:19
^robertjmralphabet: so err, boot from cd and choose boot first partition, then try to install grub by hand?16:19
donspauldinghmmm... looks like the system was out of memory and cron was determined to be a good candidate for killing16:21
ScottKYep16:22
donspauldingI love linux16:24
donspaulding * 5) we try to kill the process the user expects us to kill, this16:24
donspaulding *    algorithm has been meticulously tuned to meet the principle16:24
donspaulding *    of least surprise ... (be careful when you change it)16:24
donspaulding */16:24
^robertj/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly16:27
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Fabio_Comohello, i had setup proftpd.. the system user "testuser" can connect by ftp and it's chrootet in his ~, the problem is that files he uploads get his permissions.. but i need that file should have the www-data user, so that apache can handle them correctly17:28
sommerFabio_Como: You can change which user the proftpd process runs as with the User and Group config items17:35
sommerthat may work for you, but you may need to change the permissions of the ftproot17:36
Fabio_Comoi mean17:45
Fabio_Comothat the files written trough ftp session should be www-data:www-data17:45
Fabio_Comoand not username:usergroup17:45
sommerFabio_Como: you might look into the umask config then.17:46
Fabio_Comok thanks17:47
Fabio_Comoit seems umask can only set rwx permissions17:48
Fabio_Comoand not chown/chgrp17:48
sommerFabio_Como: try GroupOwner17:49
sommerand Umask17:49
Fabio_Comohowever i think that i shuld detach from system-user17:50
Fabio_Comoand create specific ftp users17:50
Fabio_Comoso i can associate them to the system www-data user17:51
Fabio_Comodocs: Note that GroupOwner cannot be used to override the host OS/file system user/group paradigm.17:59
sommeranyone at or listening to the UDS identity-management session?18:39
sommerjust wondering who is the guy doing the most talking?18:41
zuldendrobates isnt it?18:51
dendrobatesit's Jerry Carter18:52
dendrobateshe wrote the OReilly samba book18:52
dendrobatesBut I am talking as well.18:53
zulcool18:53
sommerdendrobates: thanks, I was wondering about the book part.18:55
sommerah... no sound ?18:58
mathiazsommer: finished now.18:59
dendrobatesyes19:00
sommerah... thanks19:00
ScottKmathiaz: Hello.  I didn't get a chance to say hello the short time I was there, but I at least know what you look like now.19:00
mathiazScottK: hi. It's good to put faces on nicknames :)19:01
ScottKmathiaz: I can hear your accent (from my perspective) when I read what you type now too.19:02
mathiazsommer: do you plan to listen to the server-documentation session ?19:05
sommermathiaz: yep, but I don't have a mic so I won't be able to talk.19:05
sommerthe audio from the sessions has been really cool... thanks to everyone who enabled that.19:06
mathiazsommer: ok. I can rely if you want.19:06
mathiazsommer: relay19:06
mathiazsommer: I'll ping you when the session is about to start.19:06
sommermathiaz: cool thanks19:07
mathiazsommer: 4:15 PM EST19:07
mathiazsommer: session started20:15
sommermathiaz: sweet, I'm with ya20:15
ajmitcha shame that I can't listen in from work20:16
robin1900Hi All20:16
robin1900Just wondering if someone could clear something up for me20:17
sommermathiaz: my suggestion is to build it in the Wiki20:20
sommermathiaz: then import part or all of the article into the Docbook guide.20:21
sommermathiaz: plus it can be updated quicker20:21
mralphabetwhere are people listening from?20:22
sommermathiaz: and if we get the macro version spec20:22
sommermralphabet: I'm using the icecast link20:22
sommerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/2007-11-01/index.html20:23
sommermathiaz: you might bring up this spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpWikiQualityAssurance20:25
sommermathiaz: nm I think you just did.20:25
mralphabetsommer: thanks20:31
sommernp20:31
sommermathiaz: if the doc starts in the Wiki you could implement some type of rating system20:37
sommermathiaz: there are moinmoin macros that enable ratings.20:39
mralphabetdevelopers don't like to read docs!? WHAT! ;)20:39
sommerheh20:40
ajmitchunpossible20:40
mralphabetwhoever is slamming doors needs to be kneecaped20:45
mralphabet+p20:45
sommerlol20:45
sommerit's also a little harder to hear people that are farther away from the mic...heh20:46
sommerneed surround sound mics or something20:46
sommer:)20:46
mralphabetyeah20:46
ajmitchmakes it hard to hear when you're already in a noisy office :)20:48
sommermathiaz: do you have commit rights for docs?20:49
mathiazsommer: no20:49
sommermathiaz: okay, just wondering... all my patches have been commit by bhuzan :)20:50
sommermathiaz: I think the wiki docs can be "translated" to docbook by hand before the freeze... especially with more help from the teams.20:57
sommerheh... emacs users under 30... that's funny21:03
ajmitchsommer: hm?21:06
sommerthey were talking about it no me... don't shoot the messanger21:07
ajmitchyeah, it's rather hard to follow the discussions21:07
sommerit'd be cool to have video... then you could see who's talking, but probably take too much bandwidth21:08
ajmitchI can recognise a few of the voices21:09
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* ajmitch wouldn't have minded being able to listen to the web app framework discussion21:10
ajmitchexcept that it was 3AM21:10
sommermathiaz: thanks for relaying, I appreciate it.21:10
mathiazsommer: np.21:10
sommerajmitch: heh... ya it's nice to be in the same tz as Boston21:11
ajmitchhm, LDAP, a fairly important topic21:11
ajmitchdid sound just cut out for anyone else, or am I just unlucky?21:18
mralphabetfixed21:19
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kshahif i'd like to secure a portion of my webroot directory, what are my options beyond a .htaccess file? is ssl overkill?21:39
kshahubuntu 7 server / apache221:40
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