| chowmeined | so are there plans to start migrating sysvinit scripts to upstart? | 01:55 |
|---|---|---|
| Arafangion | chowmeined: Of course there are. | 01:58 |
| Arafangion | chowmeined: Once upstart is considered "complete". | 01:59 |
| chowmeined | oh, i missed that part because i keep seeing how upstart is being used in ubuntu.. but its not complete? | 01:59 |
| Arafangion | Otherwise you'll just have a half-hearted init system (as mine is, as I do not use sysvinit compatibility), and have to rewrite all the scripts again for the complete syste | 02:00 |
| Arafangion | *system. | 02:00 |
| Arafangion | Yeah, it's augumented by sysvinit. | 02:00 |
| Jc2k | Keybuk: is there a IRC room for each UDS room? | 14:38 |
| Keybuk | no | 14:43 |
| Jc2k | Keybuk: bleh | 14:50 |
| Jc2k | we got about 1.30 warning about the times for the sync meeting | 14:50 |
| Jc2k | poor john is in NZ and i just had to pull him out of bed at 3am :) | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | heh | 14:52 |
| Keybuk | there's VoIP and stuff | 14:52 |
| Jc2k | nzjrs is investigating VOIP | 14:53 |
| Jc2k | im at work | 14:53 |
| Jc2k | so cant | 14:53 |
| Jc2k | but will be ircing and icecasting | 14:53 |
| Jc2k | Keybuk: my gaffa wants to participate in Hunsaker B, have you got anyway to poke them for us? | 15:09 |
| Jc2k | he's hoping they can look at irc cos he's having voip troubles.. | 15:09 |
| Keybuk | I'm in A | 15:11 |
| Jc2k | i was hoping you could bang on the wall or something :) | 15:12 |
| Jc2k | sorry for interrupting :( | 15:12 |
| Jc2k | Keybuk: he managed to get in on voip | 17:01 |
| Jc2k | and he found gobby | 17:01 |
| Jc2k | :-) | 17:01 |
| Keybuk | cool | 17:01 |
| Jc2k | really like gobby | 17:01 |
| Jc2k | hope your gdm session went well | 17:01 |
| Keybuk | mmm, ServiceKit | 19:30 |
| Jc2k | hmm | 19:30 |
| Jc2k | s/Conduit/SyncKit/ and i'm in to ubuntu then? | 19:30 |
| Keybuk | you'd get everywhere! :) | 19:30 |
| Jc2k | fantastic! | 19:30 |
| Jc2k | :D | 19:31 |
| Keybuk | (having a side conversation about the merge of HAL and udev being called DeviceKit) | 19:31 |
| Keybuk | which sidelined into "if we called Upstart 'ServiceKit' D-BUS people might stop hating it" | 19:32 |
| Jc2k | lol :) | 19:32 |
| Jc2k | i had the same thought with a low level part of Conduit totally seperately | 19:32 |
| AlexExtreme | what merge of hal and udev? | 19:33 |
| Jc2k | although, s/D-BUS/Havoc/ | 19:33 |
| AlexExtreme | or are you joking? | 19:33 |
| Keybuk | J5 actually | 19:33 |
| Keybuk | Havoc's pretty pro-Upstart | 19:33 |
| Jc2k | eh | 19:33 |
| Jc2k | maybe J5 would <3 Conduit | 19:33 |
| Jc2k | Havoc's pretty into reinventing sync for parts of his online desktop stuff :( | 19:33 |
| Keybuk | I had thought of calling the "just the service manager" bit of Upstart "ServiceKit" | 19:33 |
| Keybuk | and using Upstart as the name for that plus the event handler | 19:33 |
| Jc2k | interesting | 19:34 |
| Keybuk | yeah, much of OD amuses me | 19:34 |
| Keybuk | like they implemented a tomboy sync plugin | 19:34 |
| * Jc2k baffles | 19:34 | |
| Keybuk | and spent ages implementing a bigboard slot for google calendar | 19:34 |
| Keybuk | just so you can have desktop notifications | 19:34 |
| Keybuk | when the eds google calendar backend gives you that and more much better | 19:34 |
| Jc2k | luckily i'm pretty close with the tomboy guys - tis how i got my svn in fact | 19:35 |
| Jc2k | so i hope we can at least collaborate on sync even if they won't use us or opensync... | 19:35 |
| * Jc2k drifts off into his comfort zone where there arent 15 reimplementations of every technology | 19:37 | |
| Keybuk | :-) | 19:37 |
| Keybuk | we like conduit | 19:37 |
| Jc2k | :O | 19:37 |
| Jc2k | \o/ | 19:37 |
| Jc2k | who's we *innocent looks* | 19:38 |
| Keybuk | Ubuntu | 19:38 |
| Jc2k | \o/ | 19:38 |
| * Jc2k reists urge to do a happy naked dance | 19:38 | |
| Keybuk | no plans until +1 though at this point | 19:39 |
| Jc2k | aye, i think it would be daft to put anything big and new like conduit/opensync in to an LTS | 19:39 |
| Jc2k | but we could really do with some help on packaging synce - even if its only in universe | 19:40 |
| AlexExtreme | any chance of native upstart bootup in hardy? *hopeful look* | 19:40 |
| Jc2k | i mean we have debs, but the integration side is a bit o.o | 19:40 |
| Keybuk | MOTU are the people to get help with that | 19:41 |
| Jc2k | Keybuk: anyone in particular or any place in particular? | 19:42 |
| Keybuk | not that I can think of | 19:42 |
| Jc2k | ok, i will continue to poke martin :) | 19:42 |
| Keybuk | Pitt? | 19:43 |
| Keybuk | he's a very good person to poke | 19:43 |
| Jc2k | the martin from the syncintegration spec | 19:43 |
| Jc2k | martin owens | 19:43 |
| Keybuk | ah right | 19:44 |
| Keybuk | don't know him | 19:44 |
| ion_ | InternetKit | 19:48 |
| ion_ | (ifupdown) | 19:49 |
| Jc2k | lol ion_ :) | 19:49 |
| Jc2k | thats how to stop people hating NetworkManager... | 19:49 |
| ion_ | “NetworkManagerKit” | 19:50 |
| Jc2k | indeed | 19:50 |
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