[01:55] so are there plans to start migrating sysvinit scripts to upstart? [01:58] chowmeined: Of course there are. [01:59] chowmeined: Once upstart is considered "complete". [01:59] oh, i missed that part because i keep seeing how upstart is being used in ubuntu.. but its not complete? [02:00] Otherwise you'll just have a half-hearted init system (as mine is, as I do not use sysvinit compatibility), and have to rewrite all the scripts again for the complete syste [02:00] *system. [02:00] Yeah, it's augumented by sysvinit. [14:38] Keybuk: is there a IRC room for each UDS room? [14:43] no [14:50] Keybuk: bleh [14:50] we got about 1.30 warning about the times for the sync meeting [14:50] poor john is in NZ and i just had to pull him out of bed at 3am :) [14:52] heh [14:52] there's VoIP and stuff [14:53] nzjrs is investigating VOIP [14:53] im at work [14:53] so cant [14:53] but will be ircing and icecasting [15:09] Keybuk: my gaffa wants to participate in Hunsaker B, have you got anyway to poke them for us? [15:09] he's hoping they can look at irc cos he's having voip troubles.. [15:11] I'm in A [15:12] i was hoping you could bang on the wall or something :) [15:12] sorry for interrupting :( [17:01] Keybuk: he managed to get in on voip [17:01] and he found gobby [17:01] :-) [17:01] cool [17:01] really like gobby [17:01] hope your gdm session went well [19:30] mmm, ServiceKit [19:30] hmm [19:30] s/Conduit/SyncKit/ and i'm in to ubuntu then? [19:30] you'd get everywhere! :) [19:30] fantastic! [19:31] :D [19:31] (having a side conversation about the merge of HAL and udev being called DeviceKit) [19:32] which sidelined into "if we called Upstart 'ServiceKit' D-BUS people might stop hating it" [19:32] lol :) [19:32] i had the same thought with a low level part of Conduit totally seperately [19:33] what merge of hal and udev? [19:33] although, s/D-BUS/Havoc/ [19:33] or are you joking? [19:33] J5 actually [19:33] Havoc's pretty pro-Upstart [19:33] eh [19:33] maybe J5 would <3 Conduit [19:33] Havoc's pretty into reinventing sync for parts of his online desktop stuff :( [19:33] I had thought of calling the "just the service manager" bit of Upstart "ServiceKit" [19:33] and using Upstart as the name for that plus the event handler [19:34] interesting [19:34] yeah, much of OD amuses me [19:34] like they implemented a tomboy sync plugin [19:34] * Jc2k baffles [19:34] and spent ages implementing a bigboard slot for google calendar [19:34] just so you can have desktop notifications [19:34] when the eds google calendar backend gives you that and more much better [19:35] luckily i'm pretty close with the tomboy guys - tis how i got my svn in fact [19:35] so i hope we can at least collaborate on sync even if they won't use us or opensync... [19:37] * Jc2k drifts off into his comfort zone where there arent 15 reimplementations of every technology [19:37] :-) [19:37] we like conduit [19:37] :O [19:37] \o/ [19:38] who's we *innocent looks* [19:38] Ubuntu [19:38] \o/ [19:38] * Jc2k reists urge to do a happy naked dance [19:39] no plans until +1 though at this point [19:39] aye, i think it would be daft to put anything big and new like conduit/opensync in to an LTS [19:40] but we could really do with some help on packaging synce - even if its only in universe [19:40] any chance of native upstart bootup in hardy? *hopeful look* [19:40] i mean we have debs, but the integration side is a bit o.o [19:41] MOTU are the people to get help with that [19:42] Keybuk: anyone in particular or any place in particular? [19:42] not that I can think of [19:42] ok, i will continue to poke martin :) [19:43] Pitt? [19:43] he's a very good person to poke [19:43] the martin from the syncintegration spec [19:43] martin owens [19:44] ah right [19:44] don't know him [19:48] InternetKit [19:49] (ifupdown) [19:49] lol ion_ :) [19:49] thats how to stop people hating NetworkManager... [19:50] “NetworkManagerKit” [19:50] indeed