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sub[t]rnldriver=drive00:00
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sub[t]rnlor you could just go ahead and boot up the normal way, and enable the restricted driver with two clicks00:00
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JimBobwell, I did enable the driver with 2 clicks the normal way, but i says a reboot is required, which in turn would loose the setting (with a live dvd)...00:00
Angelusis it normal that wine crashes you're whole system?00:03
Angelusor is it because im using compiz=fusion and wine?00:03
sub[t]rnlshouldn't crash00:04
sub[t]rnli run the two without problems00:04
Angelushmm00:04
sub[t]rnlwhat are you trying to run in wine?00:04
Angeluswhen i kill the wine application, my computer becomes fast again00:04
AngelusGoogle Scetchup00:04
Angelus3D application to scetch buildings00:05
Angeluscreates 3D models of buildings00:05
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sub[t]rnlcheck winehq database00:06
sub[t]rnli'm sure its in there00:06
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JimBobso, back to my proprietary ati driver question: since the 'normal' activation requires a reboot (which kinda nullifies its use with a live cd), is there any way to activate the driver before the actual bootup?00:09
JimBobI'm pretty sure *someone* must have faced such a problem before ;)00:09
DragnslcrYou shouldn't need to reboot to use a new video driver, just restart X00:10
DragnslcrOf course, I don't know if you can just restart X from the Live CD00:11
JimBobyou can - i'll be right back after *this* short break ;)00:11
biovorectrl-alt-backspace works I think..00:11
Lam_i can't seem to view anything in smb:/ because it times out on me.  i have samba and smbfs installed. does anyone know why?00:16
hellraizor_i know this much i can't get smb to work00:17
sub[t]rnl!samba00:18
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT00:18
Lam_well, i'm trying to access my kubuntu desktop, so it's not a windows thing00:18
hellraizor_well here in about 40 min. i'm goin to be on fedora00:19
hellraizor_downloading the live cd00:19
hellraizor_i have gentoo on one harddrive thought i see what fedora is like00:20
hellraizor_any one here use fedora00:22
hellraizor_or ever try it00:22
blueyedDoes compiz work for you in Kubuntu/KDE? Here it says "Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0"; full terminal output at http://pastebin.com/d34530fcf - it used to work in the end of Gutsy development cycle and still works with Gnome.00:22
hellraizor_yes i get the same thang00:22
blueyedhellraizor_: the compiz one?00:23
blueyedThen I'll report a bug about it.00:23
hellraizor_did that00:23
blueyedok, where?00:23
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hellraizor_kubuntu on there site is a bug report00:23
blueyedhellraizor_: on launchpad.net00:24
blueyed?00:24
morphinexanyone using gmaail imap with kmail?00:24
hellraizor_let me look00:24
morphinexAnd know how I can get rid of that annoying [Gmail] directory that duplicates everything in my inbox00:24
blueyedhellraizor_: I've not found something when searching for the error.00:24
sub[t]rnlblueyed: are you using compiz --replace00:25
hellraizor_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login00:25
blueyedsub[t]rnl: yes, see the pastebin00:26
blueyedhellraizor_: that's not a bug url00:26
ardchoilleI'm finding k3b to be more powerful than I thought.00:26
blueyedwhat's your launchpad.net account name, hellraizor_?00:26
blueyedsub[t]rnl: does it work for you?00:26
sub[t]rnlcompiz? yeah00:27
blueyedsub[t]rnl: yes, it used to work for me, too - but I've not used it for a few days/weeks and now it does not anymore.00:27
hellraizor_looking for it i posted one time it's been somtime ago00:28
blueyedhellraizor_: if you tell me your account name then I could look in the bugs you've reported. Or did you forget that one actually?00:28
BluesKajmorphinex, I'm using the autofowarding feature in gmail to kmail00:29
BluesKajif that's what you want to do00:29
morphinexBluesKaj: Well, I'm checking my gmail account using imap since they just implemented it00:30
BluesKajwhy imap?00:31
BluesKajnever used it00:31
morphinexBecause it is awesome ;)00:31
morphinexBluesKaj: it letrs you keep all your email clients in synch00:32
morphinexBluesKaj: by storing all the emails on the server00:32
BluesKajwhat's different than pop mail00:32
BluesKajthink my ISP mail syaten rquires pop300:33
BluesKajsystem00:33
morphinexBluesKaj: POP just downloads the messages, whereas with imap your entire directory sturucture is duplicated on the server, so if you have a laptop and desktop you can keep them perfectly in synch00:33
morphinexBluesKaj: So when I reply to an email using my laptop, my desktop knows about that and the message is marked as replied to across all my email clients00:34
BluesKajjust my pc and wifes pc , no laptops ..00:34
skeetok guys what do i have to do to get this http://youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI00:35
BluesKajok, gotcha morphinex00:35
morphinexBluesKaj: But the way gmail implements it is kidn of crazy and annoying, and I have to mark every read message as read twice00:36
sub[t]rnlskeet: compiz-fusion > beryl00:36
sub[t]rnlberyl's a dated relic00:36
blueyedskeet: try "compiz --replace" in a konsole00:37
blueyed(for a start)00:37
bazhangin a console I think you add the &00:37
bazhangalt +f2 for the one without ;}00:38
sub[t]rnlthe & free's the console00:38
blueyedbazhang: yes, you can - to have it in the background. But you should not close the konsole anyway, with or without "&" :)00:38
rudy_hola00:38
BluesKajberyl, compiz-fusion ...just there to kill vista's eye candy thing00:39
blueyedAlso, the konsole is handy to see what goes wrong, e.g. in my case.00:39
rudy_alguien que sepa hablar español00:39
bazhangblueyed: thanks for the tip!00:39
bazhang!es | rudy_00:39
uboturudy_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:39
blueyedbazhang: so it works for you?00:39
bazhangoh yeah00:39
rudy_gracias00:40
dannyhow do i delete partions on kubuntu 7.0400:40
bazhangno problem00:40
dannyi have it installed on hdd drive00:40
dannypartitions00:40
blueyeddanny, try gparted00:40
nosrednaekimdanny: get qtparted00:40
skeetskeet@TheLoveShack:~$ compiz --replace00:40
skeetChecking for Xgl: not present.00:40
skeetBlacklisted PCIID '1002:4153' found00:40
skeetaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity00:40
skeetNot initializing the Gtk-Qt theme engine00:40
dannyget it in adept00:40
danny?00:41
nosrednaekimskeet: what card is that?00:41
[ifr0g]Where are the setting for the distance bet icons.. etc ??00:41
skeetati radeon 955000:41
coolerhow do I search for other irc channels?00:41
nosrednaekimskeet: what driver?00:41
blueyedcooler: in Konversation?00:41
skeetidk00:41
nosrednaekimskeet: did you get the restricted one>00:41
cooleryes, does any kind of a list exsist?00:42
skeeti think so00:42
blueyedcooler: press F500:42
coolerhow can I speak direcly to you - whisper?00:42
jacquesdid you guys using kmail and gmail, ever have kmail dump messages from the inbox to "all mail" folder00:42
coolerlike you do to me?00:42
webvictim/query blueyed00:42
blueyedcooler: I'm not querying you. I just put your nick in front of the message.00:43
cooleraaaaaaaaa00:43
cooler:)00:43
blueyedcooler: try "blu<tab>" :)00:43
webvictimoh, heh :P00:43
dannyi need a konsole comand to get qparted please help, or just a command to get a partition remover00:43
webvictimisn't it "qtparted"?00:44
wesleyhow do i take a screenshot with compiz fusion i push the window button and 1 but nothing happings ( plugin is on )00:44
dannyyes00:44
blueyeddanny: parted then.00:44
dannyparted?00:44
blueyedfor a console tool00:44
coolerblueyed: thx for helo :)00:44
BluesKajsudo apt-get install qtparted00:44
skeetso what should i do now?00:44
BluesKajor, sudo apt-get install gparted00:45
dannynone work00:46
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BluesKajdanny, pls expalin in more detail00:46
dannyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)00:47
dannyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:47
bazhangskeet: do you have the advanced desktop effects manager installed?00:47
skeeti think so ya00:47
blueyeddanny: use "sudo" in front of the command00:47
BluesKaj!adeptfix | danny00:47
ubotudanny: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:47
bazhangshould be in the menu under settings00:48
bazhangthe kmenu, that is00:48
dannyok00:49
dannyi did00:49
bazhangdanny: the drivers for 3D effects for that card installed?00:49
coolerboyz on the #firefox channel are not of big help so I'll put my question once more here00:49
dannyno00:50
coolerso if anybody can helop plese do00:50
coolerI'll go crazy with this one00:50
cooler[01:46] <cooler> I use kubuntu 7.10 and I have pretty nasty problem with firefox that I cannot fix00:50
cooler[01:46] <cooler> I cannot install any extensions00:50
cooler[01:47] <cooler> when I click on a "install now" button in most cases nothing happens00:50
cooler[01:48] <cooler> sometimes after 4-5min appears pop up for install and when I click on the install button it begins with download but then it forzes I cant continue00:50
dannyi dont know how to install it00:50
dannymy graphics card is made by amd...........00:50
coolerdoes anybody have similar problem?00:50
dannyanti radeon00:50
bazhang!ati00:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:50
bazhangcooler: which extensions?00:52
coolerbazhang: Not a single one00:53
bazhangstrange00:53
bazhangcooler: you trying to install flash via firefox?00:54
Admiral_Chicagocooler: try #ubuntu-mozillateam00:54
coolerbazhang: no00:54
coolerAdmiral_Chicago: I am but...00:54
dannyits saying the graphics card pacage is not availibe00:55
dannyavailibe00:55
bazhangcooler: you got me there00:55
dannygrr00:55
dannyavailible00:55
[ifr0g]Where are the setting for the distance bet icons.. etc ??00:56
BluesKajdanny, k-menu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers/admin mode /enable restricted driver/apply/close..reboot00:57
dannysays drive is not availible............00:57
dannydriver00:57
dannyhow do you delete partitions?00:58
BluesKajerr danny are you on gutsy?00:58
dannyi dont know00:59
BluesKajdanny, in the konsole, lsb_release -a00:59
blueyedI've filed bug 159409 about "compiz --replace" not working anymore with KDE.01:00
dannyDistributor ID: Ubuntu01:00
dannyDescription:    Ubuntu 7.1001:00
dannyRelease:        7.1001:00
dannyCodename:       gutsy01:00
dannyyes01:00
dannybut it doesn't show partion manager01:00
JucatoQtParted isn't installed on a default system. (even if it's there on the Live CD). you have to install it from Add/Remove Programs01:01
dannyit wont let me install it01:03
callawayHOLY CRAP IT WORKS01:03
callaway!!!01:03
callawayITZ ALIVE01:03
callawayLOL01:03
Jucato!caps | callaway01:04
ubotucallaway: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:04
callawayhahaha01:04
BluesKajcallaway, what werks ?01:04
callawaytook me a month to get the modem working on kubuntu01:04
callawayHAHAha01:04
Jucatothat's a long time O.o01:04
callawayi guess i am a little slooow01:04
callawayhaha01:05
callawaydang martians01:05
callawaywhat lurks in this dark domain?01:06
Angelushow can i reload alsa in kubuntu??01:06
callawayalsa video driver or audio driver?01:07
civilwestHello.....Dumb question but; is everyone here Ubuntu users?01:07
webvictimalsa is the audio driver :P01:07
Angelusaudio01:07
webvictimand /etc/init.d/alsa restart ?01:07
Angelusthere is no alsa in /etc/init.d/alsa01:08
webvictimcivilwest: i'm not on it at the moment01:08
webvictimbut i will be soon01:08
blueyedcivilwest: yes, but mostly Kubuntu I believe.. :)01:08
webvictimah, i remember01:08
webvictimalsactl restart01:08
webvictimsomething like that01:08
callawaywow getting that modem installed has been one of the hardest thing for me01:08
civilwestthanks01:08
callawaylinux should come with a user friendly was to detect modems and sound cards01:09
callawaylike autodetect01:09
OmegaNineGot a dumb question.  Just moved from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and it seems like the apt-get list is tiny.  can I just add the ubunutu feeds or is there a special place where I can get things like azurus for kubuntu?01:11
callawayhow long has kubuntu been around ?01:12
OmegaNineSince the early ubuntu days01:12
callawaywhat year?01:12
callawayI am used to redhat01:13
OmegaNineUmm google will know :-P01:13
JucatoOmegaNine: Ubuntu and Kubuntu use/share the same repositories01:13
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Jucatowhat Ubuntu has, Kubuntu has too.01:13
Jucatohttp://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/hoary-release.php <--- first release01:13
callawaykubuntu is Great for burning cds and using flash memory . It kicks ass all around that topic01:13
OmegaNineWeird, seems like stuff is missing, maybe its just im not connecting to the repositories....They come with the same lists by default?01:15
Jucatoyes01:15
callawayoh its been around since 200501:16
callawayI thought it was relased in 200601:16
OmegaNineI was wrong, the first release was 5.*01:16
Jucatoafaik, just one release behind Ubuntu01:16
Jucato(first Ubuntu was 4.10 iirc)01:17
OmegaNineDamn wikipedia and its sudo info :-P01:17
wesleywikipedia is useless everone can edit01:17
OmegaNinehehe01:17
Jucatoeveryone who has an account :)01:17
wesleyno you dont need a account01:18
Jucatowikipedia is useful for gather related links though01:18
Jucatoreally? you needed an account to edit last I checked01:18
callawayyou mean wikipedia contains false info?01:18
Jucatoit may01:18
OmegaNineYeah01:18
hydrogenwikipedia is awesome01:18
callawaythats scary01:18
kyled185popular articles will sometimes be restricted to non-anonymous users01:18
OmegaNinesome times its like....Exactly wrong...Some times its shades of wrong01:18
wesleywhat ubunyu has is not real wikipedia01:19
callawaya encyclopedia with false info01:19
Jucatosometimes it's exactly right :)01:19
Jucatowesley: you seem to be confusing a "wiki" from "Wikipedia"01:19
OmegaNineI wouldn't bet a term papers grade on it though ;-)01:19
Jucatocallaway: it never claimed to be an encyclopedia replacement01:19
Sannewesley: I wouldn't say wikipedia is useless, you just have to read critically. It's good we have independent media for information.01:19
Jucatocallaway: better research on what wikipedia really is :)01:20
wesleyyes but everone can delete the infio01:20
hydrogenI'd say an encylopedia editable by everyone is more likely to be right than an encyclopedia edited by only a few01:20
hydrogenbut01:20
Jucatowesley: not everyone. you need an account01:20
hydrogenthats off topic for this channel01:20
OmegaNineAgreed, but...Its right so much, I dont read it as critically as I should.01:20
wesleywikipedia is still editable by everone01:20
Jucato"You are not currently logged in. While you are free to edit without logging in, your IP address (which can be used to determine the associated network/corporation name) will be recorded publicly, along with the time and date, in this page's edit history. It is sometimes possible for others to identify you with this information. Creating an account will conceal your IP address and provide you with many other benefits. Messages sent to your IP can be01:21
Jucatoviewed on your talk page."01:21
wesleymauw then you can still edit it its not that you ban or something01:22
kyled185is anyone here having trouble with ipw3945 being really flaky now with gutsy?01:22
wesleyi have lucky no trouble more with gutsy01:22
Jucatoyeah but 1) they can trace who did it 2) your IP info is exposed and 3) they can always revert01:22
wesleyi dont think they do that and its not easy in the dutch01:23
callawaybbl01:23
OmegaNinekyled185, Its working fine on my laptop.  I dont use it for my main connection though, but when im out and about it holds up fine01:23
posingaspopularthe britannica is edited by manatees01:24
wesleyi got xboxlive for free01:25
sledgeHow do I rate-limit apt-get?01:25
alienhi all01:26
posingaspopular!hi | alien01:26
ubotualien: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:26
OmegaNinesledge, Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20342.html01:27
OmegaNineThough I have never tried it myself01:27
alienIs there to automount an external usb hdd (ntfs) on gutsy ?01:28
alien(a way)01:28
OmegaNineEverything i see points to "trickle" though, and thats a howto on how to use it with apt-get01:28
OmegaNinealien, it should when you plug it in, or do you mean on boot?01:28
aliendoesn't show when I switch it on01:29
OmegaNine:-\01:30
OmegaNineAre your USB drivers working?01:30
alienwell, have no idea, I'm running gutsy updated and I installed usbmount just in case it was needed but nothing shows up01:31
OmegaNineTry "modprobe usb-ohci" and "modprobe usb-uhci"01:32
OmegaNineSee if it returns modules for that01:32
alienk let me see01:32
wispyWell, I'm not getting any help in the #apache channel.. could someone direct me to an answer here maybe?01:32
OmegaNineI dont know THAT much about apache, but you can try....Lots of people smarter than me here01:32
alienmodules not found01:32
OmegaNinealien, on both accounts?01:33
Jucatoit is, however, offtopic... so best to wait in #apache01:33
alienboth modules yup01:33
OmegaNineOh, sorry01:33
wispyKeep trying there, then, eh?01:33
OmegaNinealien, give me a sec to google dork01:33
OmegaNineHave those USB ports ever worked?01:36
alienthey did on feisty but I deleted feisty and reinstalled gutsy 2 days ago01:37
dave__help,when I login the login screen is way down in the bottom right corner, and i can just barely see my login fields because there almost off the screen, how do i fix this?01:38
j1solutionsdave, hit the auto adjust butoon on your monitor01:39
j1solutionsif not, boot into vga mode01:39
OmegaNinedave__, res to high for your monitor?01:39
j1solutionshow do i join the fedora channel?01:39
OmegaNinelawl01:40
skeethow do i get into administrator mode?01:40
OmegaNine./join <chan name>01:40
dave__j1soloutions, its not the screen, the screen supports the resoloution 1024x76801:40
dave__once i login everything is fine01:40
dave__it just seems to be the login screen is not seeing the resoloution change till after the loginn01:41
OmegaNinedave__, Yeah its the res, try setting it in xorg.conf01:41
dave__i did set it up in xorg01:41
OmegaNinealien, I am not finding anything.  I would check the ubuntu forums, if its not there, post for help01:41
nosrednaekimdave__: does your boot splash look right?01:41
ardchoille!sudo | skeet01:41
ubotuskeet: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:41
dave__yes01:42
dave__its just the login screen01:42
alienok omeganine ty anyway01:42
OmegaNineNP, sorry I couldnt help01:42
aliennp01:42
skeetno i need to get into admin mode so i can turn on an restricted driver01:42
nosrednaekimskeet: "kdesudo restricted-manager-kde"01:43
OmegaNinesudo su01:43
ronin_Evening everyone. Is anyone currently using the 8.42.3 ATI fglrx driver?01:43
ardchoilleOmegaNine: That's not good.01:44
nosrednaekimronin_: yeah... me01:45
OmegaNineardchoille, He asked :P01:45
ronin_Is it being a pain the in the butt? Especially with respect to OpenGL apps?01:45
ardchoilleOmegaNine: yes, and nosrednaekim gave him the recommended precedure :)01:45
earl_is there a command-line command to bring up the shutdown dialog box?01:45
dave__is there any way to changethe login screen resoloution?01:46
OmegaNineSowwy :-)01:46
OmegaNinexorg must restart,  thanks for the help guys :-)01:47
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dave__must be a driver bug01:47
ardchoilleearl_: I've wondered that myself.. I'll ask in #kde01:48
earl_please01:48
kgxdoes anyone how i can figure out what caused a kernel panic. i can't make much sense ofthe log system log files01:48
brandonis there a howto somewhere on using kde4 instead of kde 3.5.7?01:49
skeetok when i go into compiz fusion my comp freezes what should i do01:49
dave__kde 4 iasnt even out yet01:49
dave__*isnt01:49
Jucatobrandon: depends on 1) where you got it from and 2) why you're trying to use it01:49
ronin_nosrednaekim: OpenGL is pretty much broken, it seems. Do you know a way to tweak or fix it? Or is it just a crappy driver revision01:50
Jucatobut as of KDE 4 Beta 3, it's not really that suitable yet for non-developer testing01:50
brandon1) canonical and 2) because i feel the need to01:50
Jucato(Beta 4 is a bit better, but we don't have packages yet)01:50
nosrednaekimronin_: works for me...is the kernel module laoding and accosiating?01:50
skeeti cant use compiz fusion or desktop effects...y?01:50
Jucatobrandon: then see the kubuntu.org page for the beta3 release. it has instructions01:51
dave__lol01:51
ronin_nosrednaekim: Er... how could I check that?01:51
dave__so nobody has heard of the graphical prob I have?01:54
earl_any luck ardchoille01:54
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kyled185dave__, the login screen resolution?01:54
ardchoilleearl_: Not in #kde, but I think I found it in kdcop. Want the command?01:54
dave__kyled185,ye01:55
dave__yes01:55
ubuntu_admini have a boner! i spermed for the first time, i have a 5 incher! i had sex. Boner!!!!!!!!!!!!01:55
earl_sure01:55
ardchoilleearl_: Try this one: dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout01:55
earl_all of that?01:55
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ardchoilledcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout01:55
ardchoilleall of that ^^01:55
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ardchoilleearl_: That's using dcop to comunicate with kdesktop01:56
earl_cool01:56
earl_i dont know what dcop is though01:56
ardchoilleThat's what kde uses to communicate between apps01:56
Hirvinen!ops | k5ubuntu /danny/ubuntu_/ubuntu_admin01:56
webvictimdcop is awesome01:56
ubotuk5ubuntu /danny/ubuntu_/ubuntu_admin: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:56
earl_ah01:56
kyled185dave__, I've had that problem before, I'm trying to figure out what I did01:57
LjLHirvinen, he... just changed nicknames twice?01:57
jjj543k3dose any one here know how to change the kde start up sound? in kubuntu?01:57
k5ubuntuthat was my friend01:57
ronin_nosrednaekim: I have the  ATI control panel and all that, and fglrxinfo comes out as ATI not MESA, so...maybe? Or is ther something else I need to check?01:57
k5ubuntuthat wasnt me01:57
LjL!nickspam01:57
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines01:57
nosrednaekimronin_: try "glxinfo01:57
HirvinenLjL: 0355 < ubuntu_admin> i have a boner! i spermed for the first time, i have a 5 incher! i had sex. Boner!!!!!!!!!!!!01:57
k5ubuntui apologize guys for the person who said that01:57
HirvinenI was referring to that.01:58
LjLHirvinen: ah, that.01:58
k5ubuntui left my computer on and my friend thought that was funny01:58
k5ubuntu..........01:58
Hirvinenk5ubuntu: Train your friends to behave.01:58
earl_ardchoille: it works like a charm.01:58
ronin_nosrednaekim: spits out a ton of info. What I am I looking for?01:58
earl_i even integrated that into kiba-dock01:58
earl_with a nice SVG button01:58
k5ubuntui will tell him that =P01:58
nosrednaekimronin_: near the top, direct rendering01:58
LjLk5ubuntu, benefit of doubt once - next time it's a ban, though. lock your computer while you aren't using it is my advice.01:58
ardchoilleearl_: That gives you the logout window and option to restart/shutdown?01:58
k5ubuntuok01:58
ronin_nosrednaekim: Direct Rendering = Yes01:58
nosrednaekimronin_: try "glxgears01:59
k5ubuntuits a live cd.........01:59
earl_yeah01:59
earl_it's sweet01:59
ardchoilleearl_: alt+f2, kdcop01:59
ronin_Worked. >3K fps01:59
ardchoilleearl_: Run that, that's what I used to figure it out :)01:59
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earl_that's a bit above me =(02:00
k5ubuntui will be right back guys02:00
k5ubuntugot to reset comoputer02:01
nosrednaekimronin_: so what is the problem exactly? everything seems good02:01
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k5ubuntucomputer*02:01
ardchoilleearl_: ok, maybe learn about dcop when you have time. it's very nice for command-line commands02:01
dave__kyled, ok thanks02:01
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ubuntu__algum  brasileiro?02:01
ronin_nosrednaekim: When I run 3d apps like WoW through Wine, or Planet Penguin racer, the  textures are for lack of a better explanation "messed up" looking02:01
ronin_Missing, incorrect location, etc02:02
earl_i'll give it a shot, ard02:02
nosrednaekimronin_: ah... that is probably an issue with the driver then,,02:02
kyled185dave__, can I see your x.org.conf ?02:02
nosrednaekimronin_: its still not really "good"02:02
earl_ubuntu__ - tem outro canal para brasileiros02:02
SudoKingno espanol pleasea02:02
webvictimit's portuguese :P02:02
SudoKinglol02:03
nosrednaekimlol02:03
ubuntu__??????????02:03
earl_that's portuguese, and i was explaining there's another channel for them =)02:03
ronin_nosrednaekim: Such I've heard. I was wondering if there were tweaks to make them more useful02:03
webvictimand he was only explaining that there's a nother channel for it02:03
nosrednaekim!pt02:03
webvictimheh02:03
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:03
webvictimssh lag ftl :(02:03
nosrednaekimronin_: don't think so02:03
ubuntu__ok thank you02:03
dave__kyled, ok just a sec02:03
ronin_!br02:03
SudoKingoh dear...02:03
ronin_oops, sorry. ^^02:03
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:03
webvictimronin_: same language ;P02:03
SudoKingthis is a little off topic02:04
ronin_FOr some reason I thought it worked by country ^^;02:04
nosrednaekimronin_: does compiz look good?02:04
ronin_nosrednaekim: I don't think I have compiz actually02:04
nosrednaekimronin_: ah ok... because that the "high point" of this release,AIGLX support02:04
ardchoilleronin_: It does, Portuguese is spoken in Brazil02:04
ronin_ardchoille: Ahh, yes I know. I had never seen anyone use a ! command for language :D Neat02:06
ardchoille:)02:06
ronin_nosrednaekim: Do you have Compiz Fusion running?02:06
nosrednaekimronin_: yeah... thats what I use my 3d accel for02:06
ronin_nosrednaekim: Nifty. I have a fair gfx card. I'll give it a go then. Do I just need to download the Compiz packages on the repos? Or is there a seperate compiz fusion, and those COmpiz ones are old?02:07
Diskonnectedhey room; can somebody tell me what *Nix OS or Live CD's are good for building a custom router&firewall?02:08
ronin_For the full versions with all the shinyness, that is :D02:08
Diskonnected??anybody know?02:09
ronin_Diskonnected: M0n0wall?  I forget a few others. Anyone else know some firewall distros02:09
dave__kyled185, where do i find it?02:09
kyled185its in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:09
kyled185!flood02:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:09
dave__ok02:09
DiskonnectedRonin_: Will that act as a router AND a firewall?02:09
nosrednaekimronin_: if you are on gutsy... everything is in main02:10
garthisDiskonnected: my friend did it with debian02:10
kyled185dave__, copy and paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:10
Diskonnectedok; how secure is it02:10
nosrednaekimDiskonnected: Ipcop02:10
DiskonnectedI just realized theres loads of trojans on my network so im reformatting everything and hopefully that will fix it; but i need to upgrade to a better firewall and router...i figure that would do it02:11
Diskonnectedyeah IPCop is a good one i hear02:11
DiskonnectedTHanks for the ideas people:)02:11
ronin_nosrednaekim: Main repo you mean?02:11
poroto82help with aircrack? anyone know a good tut¿?02:11
nosrednaekimronin_: or universe or something like that :)02:12
Diskonnectedwhat kind of hardware is needed for the basics; will it run on like a p2 or a p3 with 256MB ram?02:12
dave__kyled185,theres two conf files, conf and conf.102:13
nosrednaekimIpcop? sure02:13
ronin_Oh okay. If I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy, should I grab the KDE addon for it too?02:13
BluesKajkubuntu is kde02:14
kyled185dave__, let me see the regular xorg.conf02:14
Diskonnectedok kool ty guys an girlz:)02:14
dave__kyled, ok02:14
nosrednaekimronin_: get "emerald" no need for compiz-kde02:14
dave__kyled185,ok02:14
ronin_Ahh, okay. I've got it. Running Emerald shows...no themes?02:17
dave__kyled185, done02:17
kyled185dave__, ok tell me the URL02:17
RogueJediZeroHi. Could someone give me a quick hand with svn checkouts?02:18
nosrednaekimronin_: is compiz running?02:18
ronin_nosrednaekim: I just installed it so... probably not?02:18
chipbuddyi want to play Go on gutsy. i don't mind playing against a computer because i'm really not very good. does anyone know the name of something i can search for in the synaptic package manager?02:18
needleshow would i burn an mkv file to dvd?02:18
dave__kyled185, oops i just copied the location and  not the contents02:18
nosrednaekimronin_: run "compiz --replace &" from a alt+f202:18
needlesdoes anyone know a good mkv to avi converter?02:19
RogueJediZeroI have the site where I want to check stuff out from, but I don't know how to02:19
nosrednaekimchipbuddy: what is GO?02:19
kyled185dave__, press alt+f2 to bring up the application launch window02:19
RogueJediZeronosrednaekim: A japanese game with white and black stones on a grid02:19
chipbuddyit's a board game02:19
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chipbuddyyou play white and black pieces on a 19x19 board02:19
nosrednaekimchipbuddy: search for go:)02:19
kyled185then type kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:19
ronin_nosrednaekim: Ran it. No visible changes?02:20
nosrednaekimkyled185: thats going to need to be kdesudoded02:20
nosrednaekimronin_: try ctrl+alt+right arrow02:20
dave__kyled185,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42982/02:20
chipbuddyhehe, searching for go comes up with a lot of hits. i was wonding if someone could point me directly to one02:21
kyled185nosrednaekim, yeah eventually, but for now he's just going to take a peek in it :)02:21
nosrednaekimkyled185: oh ok..i'll let you handle it then ;)02:21
RogueJediZerochipbuddy: Try looking for gtkgo02:21
ronin_nosrednaekim: Nothing? Right directional arrow on the arrow keys, right?02:21
nosrednaekimronin_: ah yeah.. I forgot... fglrx is blacklisted... just a sec02:21
nosrednaekimronin_: To bypass the ubuntu gutsy compiz blacklist on Intel: 965. ATI: Rs480, Rv350. ATI Mobility: x300, x600, x700 run «  echo SKIP_CHECKS=yes >> ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager  »  More info: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist/02:22
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chipbuddyroguejedizero: awesome, thanks. this is perfect02:22
kyled185dave__, what resolution and refresh rate do you want to be in?02:22
RogueJediZerochipbuddy: No problem. Just found another one too, called qgo02:23
dave__kyled185,1024x768 85htz02:23
RogueJediZeroThis one might integrate into Kubuntu better, visually02:23
kyled185dave__, and what does it run at?02:24
dave__same02:24
nablHi everyone.02:24
dave__kyled185, the login screen is my only prob02:24
kyled185dave__, er, yeah that's what I mean02:25
nablI have a quick question for you...02:25
nosrednaekimhi nabl... go ahead02:25
ronin_nosrednaekim: I have a mobility x600. Damn.  Also, I get an error that it can't find a file or directory with that cmd02:25
nablI'm trying to install KGtk from source, but when I type "./configure" it says "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"02:26
nzkI'm having a small problem with Firefox. It unrecoverably freezes very often (every few minutes) which requires a restart. Anything I can do?02:26
nosrednaekimronin_: oh right... install "compizconfig-settings-manager"02:26
nosrednaekimnabl: are you inthe Kgtk directory?02:26
nablyeah02:26
nablhere's the ls output...02:27
nablAUTHORS    CMakeLists.txt  COPYING    kdialogd4         mangled.sh  README02:27
nablChangeLog  common          gtk2       kdialogd-wrapper  qt3         TODO02:27
nablcmake      config.h.cmake  kdialogd3  kgtk-wrapper      qt402:27
hydrogen..02:27
nosrednaekim!paste02:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:27
hydrogenSPAM02:27
hydrogenanyways02:27
hydrogenits using cmake02:27
ardchoillenabl: running "./configure" simply tells the system to run the file named "configure" which shoulkd be in the same dir you are in. If there is not a "configure" file there, thenn you will get that error.02:27
hydrogennot auto*02:27
nosrednaekimnabl: did you read the README?02:27
hydrogenso you can't ./configure02:27
nabloh wait...02:28
k5ubuntui need help installing compiz im unpackaging it right now once done then what02:28
kyled185dave__, does it look like it's running at 800x600 and extends beyond the physical screen?02:28
ronin_nosrednaekim: Done. Should I issue that command again?02:28
nablnever mind, I figured it out.02:28
hydrogen!compiz | k5ubuntu02:28
nosrednaekimk5ubuntu: are you on the liveCD still?02:28
ubotuk5ubuntu: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:28
nablThanks for your help.02:28
nosrednaekimronin_: yeah.02:28
dave__kyled,yes02:28
k5ubuntuty02:28
nablI'll ask if I have any more questions.02:29
k5ubuntuim installing it now02:29
dave__kyled185,yes02:29
k5ubuntuon to a hdd drive02:29
ronin_nosrednaekim: Done. No errors this time.02:29
nosrednaekimronin_: k...try "compiz --replace" again.02:29
kyled185dave__, ok open up the konsole02:29
supert0nesdoes anyone here use mouse over to focus?02:30
nosrednaekimsuperused to...02:30
RogueJediZeroDoes anyone have a clue how to check this out of svn? http://quake.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/quake/quake2/trunk/02:30
nosrednaekimsupert0nes: used to02:30
dave__kyled185,ok02:30
kyled185dave__, type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup02:30
supert0nesI wish there was one change to it, clicked to focus windows should stay focused for a few seconds02:30
RogueJediZeroThe homepage, strangely enough, only suppliescvs instructions02:30
nosrednaekimRogueJediZero: I think a simple "svn co <url>"should do02:30
ronin_nosrednaekim: Okay, done. No errors, but nothing happening.02:30
supert0nesor a certain amount of movement should change it02:30
nosrednaekimronin_: run it from a terminal02:30
usuarioanybody help-me?02:30
kyled185dave__, then type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:31
k5ubuntu!patience | usuario02:31
ubotuusuario: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:31
kyled185dave__, go to the part that says Section "Screen"02:31
supert0neslike when i open a new terminal i just want to type not put the mouse over and then type02:31
kyled185dave__, it starts at line 9902:31
usuarioi'm only getting started here02:31
usuarioand i need some help about LINUX02:31
k5ubuntusure02:32
k5ubuntugo ahead02:32
kyled185dave__, you there?02:32
ronin_Going to need to pastebin this...02:32
RogueJediZeronosrednaekim: Tried that already. This is what happens: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m4c110a4a02:32
ronin_!pastebin02:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:32
usuarioI want to install some software, but i don' t know how about this02:32
k5ubuntusure what kind of software02:33
ronin_nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42983/ this is what occured02:33
dave__kyled185, yeah just slow at typing02:33
k5ubuntuyou want to install linux to a hardrive or like a software for something02:33
hydrogenkmenu->add/remove programs.02:33
usuarioi want to install some software, as photoshop, coreldraw...02:33
k5ubuntuok02:33
hydrogenthere are equivelents to those that run under linux02:33
usuarioand drivers, as TV TUNER PRO02:34
kyled185dave__, ok, now down where it says Virtual 1400 105002:34
hydrogenfunctional equivilents02:34
hydrogenbrowese around add/remove programs02:34
dave__kyled185, that should take me about a half hour..brb :-/02:34
nosrednaekimronin_: ah.... at the end of your Xorg config file you have compozite extention disabled02:34
k5ubuntuwell im pretty new and i do know some stuff but i cant answer technical problems or hep installing software such as that02:34
usuariocan i install it under linux, with windows02:34
usuario?02:34
k5ubuntuhmm02:35
nosrednaekimusuario: the first two will not work, the tuner might02:35
ronin_nosrednaekim: Oh, what should I look for?02:35
RogueJediZerousuario: Unfortunately, no. However, I would reccomend checking out GIMP, Inkscape, Krita or Karbon1702:35
nosrednaekim!hardware | usuario02:35
ubotuusuario: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:35
dave__kyled185, keep typing i can catch up with history02:35
OmegaNineCan someone recomend a nvidia howto?02:35
kyled185dave__, ok02:35
nosrednaekimronin_:  near the end, should be something about extention composite02:35
nosrednaekimronin_: really, AT the end02:36
usuariothanks... i will see it...02:36
ronin_nosrednaekim: Change "Disable" to "Enable" ?02:36
usuarioI want to install a windows XP with Linux. Because iḿ a designer, and i need to work with files as CDR and PSD02:37
nosrednaekimronin_: delete the section altogether02:37
nosrednaekim!virtualbox02:37
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox02:37
kyled185dave__, replace Virtual 1400 1050 with Virtual 1024 76802:37
ronin_nosrednaekim:  Okay, done.  Why is that bad, exactly?02:37
redshadowheroWould someone know how to remap keyboard buttons on Kubuntu?02:37
ronin_nosrednaekim: What is composite and why is it disabled etc?02:37
vellakdI don't02:37
nosrednaekimronin_: it was for the previous fglrx driver, which didn't support it02:37
kyled185dave__, and where it says Modes and then a ton of resolutions and refresh rates02:38
nosrednaekimronin_: it does... different things... IDK;)02:38
redshadowhero...vellakd: so, wait, I get on here to ask the question for you, and then you respond like that?! >:o02:38
nosrednaekimronin_: restart X02:38
ronin_nosrednaekim: What's the quick restart on that? ^^;02:38
nosrednaekimctrl+alt+bckspace?02:39
kyled185dave__, cut "1024x768@85" and put it right in front of the first resolution "800x600@60" make sure there's a space or tab in between the two resolutions02:39
kyled185dave__, now, as a disclaimer, messing with this file can potentially make the GUI not start and will leave you at a command line system02:40
nosrednaekimronin_: anything?02:42
ronin_nosrednaekim: Okay, X not dead.02:42
ronin_Nothing shiny though02:42
nosrednaekimrun that command again02:42
nosrednaekim"compiz --replace02:42
kyled185dave__, if that happens (which is highly unlikely, the changes we made are fairly benign) just type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:42
kyled185dave__, and reboot and it should be back to the way it was before02:42
nosrednaekimronin_: anything :)02:43
ronin_nosrednaekim: Okay, it "worked" but now I don't have any....er.. borders?02:43
ronin_Ie. This window takes up the whole screen02:43
kyled185dave__, alright, with the disclaimer out of the way, to make the changes take effect, save and close that file.  then logout (you might need to press ctrl+alt+backspace)02:44
martalliHow can I run a jar file?02:44
LjLmartalli: java -jar filename.jar02:44
nosrednaekimronin_: errrr.... alt+f2 "kwin --replace"02:44
nosrednaekimronin_: and, unfortunately, I have to go... go to #compiz-fusion for help:)02:44
martalliLjL: thanks02:44
ronin_nosrednaekim: Thanks for your help! Iappreciate it!02:45
dave__kyled185, between 800x600@60 and the 768 above it?02:46
Gun_SmokeI hate to cross post, but does anyone know how to adapt the theme from BackTrack.. Its dark, clean... perfect..02:47
kyled185dave__, here, I'll show you what it should look like02:47
Diskonnectedhi room02:48
Diskonnectedcan someone help me figure something out?02:48
awagcan anyone here give me help with skim? it worked great in feisty, but with gutsy installed it won't let me change input methods02:48
kyled185dave__, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42984/02:48
RogueJediZeroDiskonnected: Depends. What can we help you with?02:49
DiskonnectedRogueJediZero: I need to figure out how im supposed to use IPCop is it a Firewall and a Router or just a firewall and if its not a router where do i place it(behind router directly on the internet or what??02:50
CreationistI currently have an nVidia Geforce 6200.  I ordered a 7600GT which I'll be recieving tomorrow.  Is there anything I need to do before shutting down to install it?02:50
Tm_TCreationist: ummm, make sure you have nvidia-glx-new installed02:51
Tm_TCreationist: umm, what your nick is meaning?02:51
RogueJediZeroDiskonnected: I haven't used Ipcop myself, but it looks like a firewall for your computer02:52
DragnslcrCreationist- I believe the 6xxx and 7xxx cards use the same drivers02:53
CreationistTm_T: I'm a creationist, as opposed to an evolutionist ;)02:53
yurimxpxman(compiz-fusion problem) any idea what's going on with this? http://yurimxpxman.dyndns.org/paste02:54
Tm_TCreationist: humm, thats quite religious02:54
CreationistDragnslcr: So, I assume it's not like Windows where I need to uninstall the drivers, install the card, and then reboot.02:54
Tm_TCreationist: can I ask to change your nick?02:54
dave__kyled185,the formatting is different in the paste than the console, does it matter if the colomns are more than 4rows accross?02:54
DragnslcrCreationist- I wouldn't think so02:54
hydrogenTm_T: and your name is quite almost explosive!02:54
Tm_Thydrogen: it is02:54
CreationistTm_T: And extremely scientific.  But that's a topic for a different channel.  And you can ask me to change it, but I won't ;)02:54
joshk1025sodo the compiz effects work on laptops?02:55
joshk1025solike older ones with not so much memory (128 shared for video)?02:56
kyled185dave__, I'm not sure I understand what you mean02:56
DiskonnectedRogueJediZero: Okay; so if it is just a firewall not a router; do i put it directly on the modem and then put the router on the IPCop box?02:56
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dave__kyled185, in the xorg file there are four colomns of resoloutions, does that format matter?02:57
hydrogenuhoh02:57
hydrogenhere comes Mr Tm_T the thought-police cop!02:58
mneptokCreationist: IMO, the nick is a bit inflammatory given the scientific leanings of most geeks. it's like me walking into your church wearing an "Abortionist" t-shirt. i'm happy you have found something that gives you peace. there's no need to advertise it, IMO.02:58
Tm_Tagreed02:58
hydrogenmm02:58
hydrogenhe has had it for a while02:58
hydrogena nick is a nick is a nick02:58
dave__kyled185, sorry it depends on the size of the window  on how the data is displayed02:59
RogueJediZeroDiskonnected: I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do. Are you trying to make a router from your computer?02:59
kyled185dave__, ok02:59
Creationistmneptok: Personally, I would love to welcome you into my church with such a shirt :).  But my name isn't meant to be offensive in any way... it is a personal representation of my own beliefs and scientific research. :)02:59
k5ubuntui need help finding on this. Ok im using a Dell latitude 131l it has a broadcam wireless card and its asking me where the firmware is, how can i download and save this firmware to my desktop or something02:59
kyled185!offtopic | everyone03:00
ubotueveryone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:00
Tm_Tkyled185: thanks03:00
Creationistmneptok: Different views isn't always bad... it would be like someone coming in here with the name "ILoveGnome" ... big deal :P03:00
kyled185yep ;)03:00
mneptokCreationist: do you not see how it could be needlessly distracting?03:00
hydrogenit only became needlessly distracting when tm_t brought it up03:00
k5ubuntu!ubuotu03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:00
k5ubuntu!ubotu03:00
mneptokCreationist: desktop managers are not, or should not, be as sacrosanct a choice as religious belief.03:00
Creationistmneptok: Not really... Because I've never had an issue with it until Tm_T03:00
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:00
hydrogendeal with the content, not with the bearer03:00
kyled185dave__, so did you make the changes?03:01
Tm_Thydrogen: true, and now I'm gone ->03:01
hydrogendon't judge a book by its cover :P03:01
k5ubuntu!how do you find programs03:01
hydrogenkmenu->add/remove programs03:01
Creationisteh well... this conversation doesn't belong in here anyway.03:01
hydrogenI've told you lhat like four times03:01
lithiumis it really necessary to give that much attention to his nick?03:01
hydrogenthat it doesn't!03:01
hydrogenback to gutsying03:01
dave__kyled185,im hesitant to mess with it, because it seems format in here is extreemly important03:01
lithiumsimply let him be03:01
anton_Hey, I want to save something to my sources.list but I think I need to be in root mode. Can I save something to the list through a terminal?03:02
kyled185dave__, whitespace isn't really that important as far as functionality is concerned, it helps with readability.03:03
dave__kyled185, i mean if I misallign any of these numbers it would mess it up, correct?03:04
k5ubuntui need help finding this driver bcm43xx03:04
kyled185dave__, just highlight everything in the file and then copy and paste the modified file I sent you into it03:04
k5ubuntui searches adept etc03:05
k5ubuntusearched03:05
kyled185dave__, er, highlight and delete everything in the file, then you can copy/paste the modified version03:05
DiskonnectedRogueJediZero: No I am trying to make a firewall to service my entire network; the router i have is a Netgear router. I need a high quality firewall because people have been trying to hack into my network and hijack computers03:06
lordofthepigsHello!03:06
lordofthepigsWhat is a good way to make incremental backups of my important data?03:06
lordofthepigsrsync?03:06
kyled185lordofthepigs, git03:06
dave__kyled185,ok, thanks for your in depth help, i owe you one :-)03:06
hydrogengit would be horribly overengineering it03:06
kyled185dave__, yep, no problem03:06
hydrogenrsync would work03:07
kyled185hehe03:07
hydrogenthere are some scripts that automate it03:07
hydrogen!backup03:07
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:07
lordofthepigsand is there nice GUI frontend for it?03:07
hydrogensee what mr. ubotu said :)03:07
jjj543k3Any one know of a good audio mixing app?03:07
hydrogenaudacity03:07
DevideZerosimply question : why NOT to use gtk application on kde ?03:08
posingaspopular!worksforme03:08
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/03:08
Creationist!sources.lst03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:08
posingaspopularDevideZero: thats the answer i got when i asked that question03:08
jjj543k3this sounds stupid but audacity looks terible on anythig other than windows because it was built with wx which annoys me know of any kde native audio mixind apps03:08
RogueJediZeroDiskonnected: In that case you need to put the box with IPcop between the modem and the router03:09
posingaspopularduno if that answers the questions completly03:09
DevideZeroposingaspopular , what ?03:09
DevideZerodid you understand my question ?03:09
hydrogenDevideZero: you can use gtk apps on kde03:10
hydrogentheres no reason not to03:10
hydrogenexcept that kde apps are a whole lot better03:10
hydrogenbut03:10
jt__hola03:10
kyled185except slightly slower start up time for the first app you open03:10
hydrogenapps can run independant of the desktop your on03:10
hydrogenkyled185: thats really not a big deal03:10
kyled185hydrogen, agreed03:10
DevideZerowhy gnome and kde dont use both the same qt or gtk but the both you the samw it will sokve alot problems .. .03:11
dannyi need help installig compiz03:11
danny!compiz help03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz help - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:11
danny!compiz03:11
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion03:11
dannynevermind03:12
hydrogenDevideZero: gtk was formed a long time ago when qt's license didn't satisfy his holiness RMS.  Since then Qt's licensing has been remedied, but people still use gtk because they don't know any better03:12
hydrogenat least thats my take on it!03:12
dave__kyled185,it worked beautifully, thanks again, YOU DA MAN!!03:13
kyled185dave__, great, glad to help03:13
lordofthepigshmm... it seems that sbackup is pretty much exactly what I want03:14
kyled185I'm gonna give kde 4 a try and I just installed the packages as stated in the URL in the topic.  I'm not sure what changing the environment variables will do to kde3, anyone here have experience with that?03:14
redshadowheroWait, when is KDE4 set to be released?03:15
dave__december i think03:15
kyled185redshadowhero, end of december03:15
DiskonnectedRogueJediZero: Ok thank you; i appreciate the assistance. Have a good one!:)03:15
redshadowherotoo long a wait :P03:15
hydrogenkde4.0 is not going to be worth using in a lot of cases03:15
kyled185I'm not planning on using it for normal everyday stuff, I'd just like to poke around in it, report a bug or two03:16
dave__kyled185, let us know how it works out03:16
hydrogenwait for the beta4 packages03:16
hydrogenwhich should be out..03:16
lencho#Kubuntu-es03:17
lenchohelp03:18
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kyled185I just installed the packages, so they should be the latest version03:18
lenchokubuntu en español?03:19
hydrogen!es | lencho03:20
ubotulencho: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.03:20
blendtux!nl | blendtux03:21
Kamerheimerneed help installing wireless drivers03:21
Kamerheimeri have hp dv6000z with broadcom wireless card03:22
DevideZerowhat kde is faster ( better preformance ) than xfce ?03:22
jjj543k3Whenever I try to preview audio in audacity I get this message saying that the audion device is busiy03:24
kyled185bah it didn't work03:24
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navets_can somebody please help me get my sound working03:25
navets_it was working before but very poorly03:25
navets_i tried to install new alsa drivers03:25
navets_now i dont even get a mixer or any sound at all03:26
jjj543k3fixed my audacity problblem nm,..03:26
k5ubuntuhey i need a mac os x icons and a theme03:29
k5ubuntuand a dock03:29
Dr_WillisTheres dozens of those things out.. all rather bad\. :)03:29
Dr_Willis!find kwin-03:29
ubotuFound: kwin-style-crystal, kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator (and 4 others)03:29
Dr_WillisCheck out Baghira03:29
kyled185meh, now I see why kde 4 is still in beta03:29
dave__lol03:30
k5ubuntuwhats a good mac dock for kubuntu03:30
k5ubuntu!dock03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:31
navets_is there a way to reupgrade your kernel03:31
k5ubuntu!find dock03:31
ubotuFound: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)03:31
kyled185last time I checked, kubuntu isn't OS X03:31
k5ubuntuit can be03:32
Dr_Willisit can look like it. :)03:32
k5ubuntuand since unix is like linux it is similar kind of03:32
Dr_WillisWith a bit of work.. you can have a gui almost as annoying as OS-X03:32
Dr_Willisof course to get the Fancy Expose thing. you need to use Compiz03:32
k5ubuntugot it running03:33
anton__Hi, I'm trying to get Avant Window Navigator to work, but I can't do it. I am a total newbie at linux, so I'm wondering if there are any good guides to do this, from a newbies point of view?03:33
Dr_Willisk5ubuntu:  then you need to be looking at the Emerald themes. Not the kwin themes.03:33
dave__they both have a unix core correct03:33
dave__?03:33
kyled185dave__, Linux is a clone of Unix.  OS X is actually Unix03:34
Dr_WillisLinux is not technicially 'unix' i belive. I forget the exact details. :)03:34
dave__kyled, i see03:34
dave__kyled185, i see03:34
kyled185alright I've got to go write some prolog..farewell everybody03:35
dave__kyled,185, have a good one03:36
dave__$#@% my typing sucks... :-)03:37
dave__sorry thats off topic..;-)03:38
k5ubuntuwhat is a good mac dock?03:38
k5ubuntui cant seem to find one03:38
dave__<---dunno03:38
Dr_WillisThers that 'awm' advant window manager ? thing i hear about. but its not in the repos.03:39
Dr_WillisOther then that. All the OS-X dock wannabes ive seen/tried all are rather lacking.. of course I find the original OS-X dock lacking03:39
Dr_WillisDreamLinux (a live cd) has Somthing that LOOKS very much like the OS-X dock. but not sure what its using03:40
k5ubuntuill google it03:40
Dr_Willisgood idea03:41
anton__What do I need to run .run-files?03:41
k5ubuntuKSmoothDock and KoolDock - seem to be more stable and fast also in Linux.03:41
Dr_Willis Everex, a longtime personal computer vendor, has unveiled its latest PC featuring Ubuntu Linux-based open-source productivity software and Google-based Web 2.0 applications, for a mere $198.03:41
Dr_WillisSpiffy!03:41
Dr_WillisHmm.. Its running Enlightment as its desktop. because it rewuires minimal hardware..03:42
k5ubuntuDr.Willis on adept they have kooldock to download!03:42
Dr_WillisGesh. I rember when Enliughtment was the MOST bloated Desktop/WM out. :)03:42
Dr_Willisk5ubuntu:  wow! :)03:42
k5ubuntulol03:43
dave__is there a way to disable the join and leave notifications in konversation?03:45
BlackAngeloi03:46
dave__blackangel, annnddd?03:47
BlackAngelyes brasil03:47
dave__blackangle, sorry03:48
dave__blackangel, sorry03:48
BlackAngel:P03:49
dave__:-)03:49
RogueJediZerodave__: Settings -> Configure Konversation ... -> Behavior ->  Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events03:50
dave__roguejedizero,thanks03:50
RogueJediZeroDon't mention it03:51
the-ermI can't believe I'm asking this ... in kcontrol there is a place to enable power saving.  I have it set to 45 minutes.  For both "root" and myself.  Yet every ~5 minutes - I haven't timed it but seems about right - the screen turns off.03:52
the-ermAny ideas ...03:52
navetsdoes anyone know if there is a way to redo the gutsy upgrade03:53
BlackAngelthe IRC in Brazil was very weak here after the excrement of msn03:53
RogueJediZerothe-erm: K-Menu -> System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Saver. Is that it at the bottom?03:54
the-ermnavets: I'm not sure.  You could load up adept_manager find everything that's "installed" and set it to "reinstall"03:54
navetsthe-erm: humm, is there a quick way to do that lol?03:55
the-ermI wish.03:55
the-ermI don't know.03:55
Lam_how do i globally stop my computer from beeping whenever i backspace or whatnot?03:58
Dr_Willisshall we ask WHY this is needing to be done?03:58
draikSoooooooo......03:59
Dr_WillisLam_:  xset b 0 0 0    might do it for ya03:59
the-ermRogueJediZero: That's really weird ... it didn't have a screen saver.03:59
draikJust upgraded to Gutsy03:59
Dr_WillisLam_:  also Konsole has its own settings for the beep03:59
dave__has that false upgrade bug been fixed yet?03:59
draikNot bad. Not bad at all03:59
jacquesxset b off03:59
Dr_WillisI tend to set the beep to be a real short click. :)03:59
Lam_Dr_Willis, jacques: i'll give that a try. thanks. this works with gtk too right? pidgin is doing the same thing and it's annoying -_-03:59
the-ermI could have sworn it was set ... odd, crazy weird.04:00
the-ermMaybe it's because it wasn't in the "saved session"04:00
Lam_Dr_Willis: the man page says that the settings will revert upon logout. is there a way to make it more permanent?04:02
perrakoHey -- I'm having trouble getting window borders in Kubuntu with compiz04:03
perrakoI don't have any window decorators, as it weer04:03
hydrogenrun kde-window-decorator04:04
perrakoCould not find the specified command... should I install it with synaptic?04:05
perrakoNVM, fixed it. Is there a way to get a compiz system tray icon?04:06
Dr_WillisLam_:  thats what .bashrc and .bashprofile are good for.04:06
Lam_Dr_Willis: ah. didn't know that. thanks04:06
kalorin`hey dr_willis04:09
kalorin`how's thigns04:09
kalorin`anyone have any idea why I wouldn't be noticing any more updates for 7.04 lately?04:10
kalorin`just seems strange, when I was on 6.10, it popped up pretty quickly to upgrade to 7.1004:10
biovoreits being obsoleted04:10
kalorin`7.04 rather04:10
kalorin`I'm not seeing any updater alerts saying click now to do an upgrade04:11
kalorin`specifically I'd like to be playing with gimp 2.4 now that that's out04:11
biovoreI have always had to manualy upgrade here..04:11
biovorebetween dists04:11
kalorin`doing an apt-get dist-upgrade gives me back that i'm up to date04:12
kalorin`it's strange04:12
biovoreneed to change your /etc/apt/sources.list from feisty to gusty04:12
biovorethen dist-upgrade04:12
biovoreand pray04:12
kalorin`yeah but it's interesting I didn't have to with the 6.10 to 7.04 upgrade04:13
kalorin`it just sort of popped up the caution sign one day and said click here to blow stuff up04:13
kalorin`and the full upgrade button isn't highlighted in adept04:14
kalorin`so it's like it has no idea it's obsolete04:14
gil__alguien sabe en español?04:14
kalorin`I hope it doesn't find out from someone else, it's feelings will be hurt nad it'll be mad at me :)04:14
kalorin`!es04:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.04:14
navetsis there a way to downgrade or fix my sound with an intel hda sound card?04:16
micha_cze jest ktos z polski04:20
perrakoSo, I just installed kick-off, but it won't open with the windows key -- how do I fix that?04:20
* Dr_Willis wonders what kick-off is04:21
Dr_Willis!info kick-off04:21
ubotuPackage kick-off does not exist in gutsy04:21
Dr_Willis!find kick04:21
ubotuFound: kicker, kicker-applets, system-config-kickstart, kicker-contactsmenu, kicker-kblogger (and 1 others)04:21
perrakoKick-off is that really nice SUSE menu04:22
perrakoReplaces the normal KDE menu... KDE 4 has a version of it as its default menu04:22
Dr_WillisOh. that thing i always replace when i work on a suse box. :)04:26
Dr_Willissaw it on the kde4 live cd.. :) i found it lacking. But to each their own.04:26
perrakoI love the search feature :)04:27
perrakojust... always there, omnipresent04:27
perrakoHeh, either way -- i think it's a problem with kde menu not responding to the key. how would I fix that?04:27
Dr_WillisRight its so anoying to use  :) ya have to just search..04:27
Dr_Willisof course I just use Katapult mainly these days.04:27
perrakoheh, I just noticed it.04:28
Dr_Willisnight all...04:35
mmmiiikkkeeepowermanager keeps switching from "AC mode" to "battery mode" every 2 seconds... any ideas of what i could search google for to fix this?04:38
Kamerheimersome wireless driver help would be appreciated is anyone available04:40
Kamerheimeridk how to extract the firmware from broadcom drivers using fwcutter04:41
posingaspopularKamerheimer: you got the install to work?04:42
awagdoes anyone know the name of the search program that came with the feisty faun version of kubuntu?04:43
navetshow do I run the snddevices script?04:43
awagthat was in kmenu04:43
Kamerheimeryes i did i had to run it with noapic and nolapic04:43
Kamerheimeri dont know hwo to get hte wireless drivers working04:44
posingaspopularexcellent. well i hate to break the news to you, but it sounds like your computer is going to be a pain to configure04:44
posingaspopulardid you try the wireless documentation?04:44
Kamerheimeridk what that is04:44
Kamerheimerthis is my first time using linux04:44
posingaspopular!wireless04:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:45
Kamerheimerdont really know the menus and all that well esp since i have no internet on it04:45
Kamerheimeroh yeah iw as there already04:45
posingaspopularoh okay04:45
Kamerheimeridk what broadcom i have04:45
navetshow do I run the snddevices script? or where would the script be04:46
posingaspopularhmm well ive never setup wireless drivers, so i can't really help, buti can try04:46
dsmith_!beagle04:47
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)04:47
posingaspopularbroadcom is a company that puts integrated circuits into computers, which is of course the hardware. so you need the drivers to make the hardware play nice with the software04:47
dsmith_more like narrow-minded com04:47
posingaspopularbroadcom chipset just means that the broadcom hardware is the one that's actually connecting your computer to the internet04:48
Kamerheimeryep04:48
posingaspopularas far as i know anyway.04:48
posingaspopularso do you know what the broadcom chipset is on your computer, or are you stuck at that part?04:48
Kamerheimeryeah idk which one i got04:49
Bearcathey folks, i  know this isn't a hardware specific channel, but i really need some trouble shooting help here.04:50
Bearcatis anyone familiar with gigabyte boards?04:51
BearcatI just put together a system around a gigabyte ga-p35-dsr3 and a intel core 2 duo e6550. The first time i turne the system a few minutes ago the cpu fan spun  fine but i got no post tones and no video. After that i still get no post tones, no video and the cpu fan spins at first but then does not.  This is *Exactly* the same problem i am having with another machine with a gigabyte board in it. Any ideas?04:52
posingaspopularKamerheimer: ah i dont *actually* know how to findout whatchipset you have04:53
posingaspopularbut let's see if we can figure it out04:53
Kamerheimeri see this thing written by darkn00b04:53
Kamerheimeryo knwo him04:53
Kamerheimerhe puts a link to a file but the link doesnt work anymore04:54
posingaspopularhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:55
posingaspopularthe first command should be what you need, and then the rest is ignorable i guess04:56
posingaspopularso yea, lshw04:56
Kamerheimerso now i gotta go back to linux and then come back here04:56
Kamerheimerson of a bleep04:56
Kamerheimerbe back04:56
posingaspopulardoh sorry04:57
posingaspopularlspci04:57
anton__Hi, I'm trying to get the avant window manager to work. I can open it and see the dock, but I can't open the preferences of the awn manager...what could be wrong?04:58
Diskonnectedhey room; i have a question is there a package i can get for Kubuntu that will turn the computer its on into a Firewall like IPCop?05:00
DiskonnectedI have a copy of ipcop downloaded but for some reason i cant get the cd to boot...05:00
hydrogeniptables..05:01
hydrogen!iptables05:01
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:01
Diskonnectedwell what i meant was I need a distro to turn a computer into a high functioning firewall for my entire network05:03
Kamerheimer!wireless05:04
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:04
_dns_try ipcop05:04
LinuxReigntry Coyote as well05:04
Diskonnectedthats what i tried; its 45mb cd and i cant get it to boot05:04
Diskonnectedis Coyote its own distro?05:04
LinuxReignyes05:04
hydrogenDiskonnected: you can do that with any linux computer05:05
bazhangwill setting the ip tables to exclude certain addresses effectively block them?05:05
Diskonnectedwhats the website?05:05
LinuxReignno cdrom or hdd needed, just a floppy drive05:05
Kamerheimer03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)05:05
LinuxReignhttp://www.coyotelinux.com/05:05
DiskonnectedHydrogen: Thank you...05:05
Kamerheimeryou see that man05:05
LinuxReignu can use a 486 with 16 mb of RAM with coyote05:06
LinuxReignno need to use expensive hardware05:06
posingaspopularyes i see05:06
Diskonnectedyeah05:06
Diskonnectedis it dependable?05:06
LinuxReignor keep ur main system up and running 24/705:06
Diskonnectedand strong05:06
Diskonnectedi need something strong05:07
bazhangie, using a filter to exclude certain ip addresses in ip tables?05:07
Diskonnectediv had multiple intrusion attempts on my network05:07
Diskonnectedwell i need it to be able to filter out attacks; basically i dont want actual people being able to connect to my computers; i need logs of everything that happens and i need it to be able to be updateable for blocking new types of attacks and know how to tell if its a trojan or a hacktool thats connecting05:08
Diskonnectedthats the deal im working with05:08
Diskonnectedi was told ipcop is the best but i cant get the cd to friggin boot05:08
bazhangso will editing the ip tables do that?05:08
Diskonnectedpossible05:08
Diskonnectedbut only if i know exactly what ip's/ip ranges i need to block or want to block05:09
posingaspopularKamerheimer: i am 'googling'05:09
Kamerheimerok thanks broseph05:09
Kamerheimerpm me ok05:09
Kamerheimertoo much clutter here05:09
bazhangI had about 35 hits from a mainland chinese address in less than two minutes05:09
LinuxReignCoyote should do what u need, IPCop as well05:10
Diskonnectedyeah...05:10
Diskonnectedis it possible the ipcop iso image i got isnt bootable or what?05:10
Diskonnectedand if so how do i do a network install05:10
bazhangand whois doesn't know who they are.05:10
LinuxReignfor a network install the system board must have that capability05:11
LinuxReigndepends on the mainboard05:11
Diskonnectedk...05:12
Diskonnectedthis is some crap:\05:13
Diskonnectedis Coyote a live cd?05:13
LinuxReignlet me see if i have an image of that05:14
Diskonnectedok...05:14
Diskonnectedidk but the comp wont boot from a cd but it will boot from a hard drive...its set to boot CD first05:14
Diskonnecteddoesnt make sense05:14
LinuxReignthats an old version but, woks05:15
LinuxReignworks*05:15
Diskonnectedwhat?05:15
LinuxReignaccept the file05:15
Diskonnectedooo ok05:15
Diskonnectedwait05:16
Diskonnectedi dont c a pm?05:16
Diskonnectedi am using XChat05:16
LinuxReigni see05:16
LinuxReignIm running Konversation05:16
LinuxReignnot familiar with the Xchat thingy05:17
LinuxReign:P05:17
Diskonnectedi dont use linux on this box05:17
Diskonnectedlemme switch to Mirc05:17
LinuxReignk05:17
Diskonnectedi will be back in a few05:17
LinuxReignk05:17
jacquesanyone else have problems with audio and realplayer05:17
LinuxReignnope05:17
Diskonnected<LinuxReign> i am ok Kubuntu right?05:18
Diskonnected#Kubuntu?05:18
LinuxReignyes05:18
Diskonnectedok one sec05:19
LinuxReigni need a Coke brb05:19
Diskonnectedok05:19
Diskonnectedim loggin in a d1sk0nn3ct3d05:19
bazhangwill Kubuntu let me install a new system without swap?05:22
bazhangfresh install, but just no swap--possible?05:23
Jucato(only one way to find out...05:24
Jucato:P05:24
LinuxReignlol05:25
bazhangtrying to install to a solid state drive, and don't want to wear it out05:25
JucatoI suppose it's possible... but haven't really tried05:25
LinuxReignhiya jucato, long time no see you on the forums05:25
Jucatowhich forums? :)05:26
LinuxReignkubuntu's05:26
JucatoMepisReigh is that you? (duh!)05:26
LinuxReignhahahaha05:26
LinuxReignyes indeed05:26
LinuxReign:P05:26
Jucatohaha oh I've been there. posting here and there. but even w/o the posts I monitor it daily....05:26
Jucato3x a day in fact05:26
LinuxReignoh05:26
JucatoRSS Feeds are a god-send! :)05:27
LinuxReignthe its me the one that have been lost :P05:27
D1sk0nn3ct3dLinux Reign05:27
D1sk0nn3ct3dits Diskonnected i came on Mirc will u send whatever it is now05:27
bazhangJucato: there are rss feeds for this channel?05:27
LinuxReigntrying to send you the file, but it states that im not registered05:27
Jucatobazhang: no. we were talking about kubuntuforums.net05:27
D1sk0nn3ct3dwhat do u mean?05:28
D1sk0nn3ct3don the server?05:28
bazhangoopsie, my bad05:28
Jucato!register | LinuxReign05:28
ubotuLinuxReign: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:28
Jucatoquite simple to do :)05:28
D1sk0nn3ct3dghetto05:28
D1sk0nn3ct3ddo u use another chat protocol?05:28
D1sk0nn3ct3di have aim and yahoo/msn05:28
D1sk0nn3ct3dor u can email it?05:28
LinuxReignemail05:28
LinuxReignwould be faster05:28
Jucatoit would be simple enough for you to actually register your nick and DCC the file :)05:29
D1sk0nn3ct3dok diskonnected@cox.net05:29
D1sk0nn3ct3dhow big is the file?05:29
LinuxReign2.6 megs05:29
D1sk0nn3ct3dthats fine05:29
D1sk0nn3ct3dill check it in a few let me know05:29
D1sk0nn3ct3dbtw what is it?05:29
JucatoD1sk0nn3ct3d, LinuxReign: might want to just PM each other :)05:29
Quelhi there. is there a boot parameter to boot with an ati radeon xpress 1250 driver? Kubuntu is not ablo to start the x-mode :(05:29
LinuxReignits Coyote05:30
D1sk0nn3ct3di have coyote 3.005:30
D1sk0nn3ct3d3.00.7 iso05:30
LinuxReignoh i see05:30
D1sk0nn3ct3dand its 24 megs05:31
LinuxReignwell its already sent :P05:31
D1sk0nn3ct3di dont use floppies so floppy images wouldnt work05:31
D1sk0nn3ct3dok no worries what is the one u sent?05:31
LinuxReign2.2405:31
JucatoQuel: you don't need a boot parameter. you  just need to set the driver up properly... unfortunately, I don't have an ATI so I can't help much05:32
LinuxReignok, its time to me to get some sleep05:32
LinuxReignc ya guys later05:32
D1sk0nn3ct3dhmmm ok05:33
* Jucato was just about to recommend continuing your discussion in -offtopic ;P05:33
D1sk0nn3ct3dok ttyl linux reign05:33
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smorganyone happen to know if there is an atitool-ish program for *nix05:34
posingaspopularati too-ish program?05:35
posingaspopularto do what specifically05:35
smorgati overclocking05:35
Jucatoah ATI Tool-ish :)05:35
smorgchecks for artifacts05:35
* posingaspopular backs away from the ATI talk before it corrupts his computer05:36
Quelhmm05:36
smorgsince it works with drivers and directx I suspect it won't work with wine05:36
smorglawl05:36
smorgcompiz needs a little boost on this old ati 970005:36
QuelWhats going on? I booted my kubunto 7.04 CD and after the booting screen is text and a second booting screen and than a black screen with a blinking "_" on the left-top edge :(05:37
smorgstill not a bad card though... its stable with like 70 mhz o/c05:37
smorgQuel: maybe x just isn't starting?05:38
smorgcan you get to a console?05:38
smorgor is it stuck05:38
Quelsmorg: how to get a console?05:38
JucatoQuel: Ctrl+Alt+F105:38
smorgctrl+alt+F1-F705:38
QuelI just have a blinking "_"05:38
smorgF1 through F705:38
Quelyes it works05:38
smorgtype Startx05:38
smorger05:39
smorgstartx05:39
Quelubuntu@ubuntu:~$05:39
QuelFatal Server Error: no screens found05:39
smorghave any backups of your xorg.conf?05:39
bazhangso if I install Kubuntu without swap, I'll need to create a 100MB /boot partition and the rest for / --am I missing anything?05:39
smorgcheck your xorg log in /var/x1105:40
smorgI think05:40
Quelsmorg what do you mean?05:40
posingaspopularbazhang: /home05:40
Jucatobazhang: /boot partition is not necessary either. it can be in the same / partition05:40
bazhangJucato: so just a / partition will do?05:40
JucatoSSD's wear out more easily than regular HD's?05:41
* Jucato never heard that before...05:41
Jucatobtw how much RAM do you have?05:41
Vuenhi05:41
bazhangposingaspopular: this is on a solid state drive--only4GB, so want to keep size to a minimum05:41
* posingaspopular actually heads off to bed before he falls asleep on the keys. not ideal #kubuntu conditions05:41
Vueni just selected a folder in Dolphin and click "Compressed Here"05:41
smorgQuel: oh this is just the livecd?05:41
posingaspopularah i didn't know that05:41
Quelyes05:41
bazhangJucato: one Gigabyte05:41
Vuenwhere the heck did it put the archive??05:41
smorg:-/05:41
Jucatobazhang: you probably won't be using the swap partition even if you had one :)05:42
QuelAti Radeon XPress 1250.. i think its my videocard05:42
smorgdo you have enough ram to run the livecd?05:42
bazhangJucato: thanks! will give it a shot.05:42
JucatoVuen: go one directory up05:42
smorgrequires 256 mb afaik05:42
bazhangsmorg: yes05:42
smorghm05:42
Queli have 2GB RAM05:42
* Jucato is now confused who's talking to who...05:43
VuenJucato: oh. it tarred the whole folder. i assumed it would only tar what i selected.05:43
smorgQuel: I guess i'm not so sure about configuring video drivers from command line... if thats even why its hanging for you. It could be anything.05:43
Vuengood thing i didn't click that while selecting something in home...05:43
JucatoVuen: no you have to right-click on the particular folder05:43
JucatoVuen: or go into the folder you want compressed, then select Compress Here05:44
Jucatoand yes, D3lphin is a bit annoying when it comes to that :)05:44
Queli had the same error while booting kanotix... kano said i had to use "screen=auto fglrx" in the bootmanager to boot because it is an ati radeon video-card, after that it worked05:44
Queli think kubunto dont know this parameter05:45
JucatoI don't think the Live CD has one05:45
Jucatoyou can always check. at the startup screen, you can press F1. there might be help options05:45
Quelcan i install kubunto to my /dev/sda1 in console?05:46
draremsince the 7.10 release, there haven't been any system updates to speak of, right?05:46
JucatoQuel: not if you're using the Live CD05:47
Jucatodrarem: there were05:47
Jucatolast week I think05:47
Jucatospecifically there was an update to kdelibs that fixed the Kopete crashing problem05:48
QuelJucato how can in install kubuntu without a cd? Do i need windows for installing?05:48
draremi commented out my cd-universe..05:48
JucatoQuel: there's an alternate installation CD that can install without a GUI05:48
Quelah okay, so i need the xserver to install05:48
JucatoQuel: only *IF* you are using the Desktop CD. the Alternate Install CD doesn't need xserver05:49
Jucatodrarem: if you have gutsy-updates repositories enabled, you should have gotten them05:49
draremok05:49
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* Jucato hands genii some beer05:50
Jucato(before going AFK)05:50
geniiHeh :)05:50
* genii sips05:50
Queli got a kubuntu cd from a free sorfware-day.. there was a kubuntu-office and they gave me the cd05:50
geniiheh. Forgot i left the work computer on LOL05:51
Queloh i have to go to school05:51
Jucatogenii: ssh and shut it down :)05:51
Quelbe right back :)05:51
Quelgoodbye05:51
* Jucato really goes afk05:51
tehkAnyone know why lucida sans typewriter is not selectable for my monospace font?(its installed and an option everywhere else)05:54
geniiJucato: That ones behind a router without 22 forwarded :(05:54
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monsterb!java06:31
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:31
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anton__Hello there, Can I make windows transparent? Not just the bars...06:53
bazhanganton__: sure!06:58
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anton__bazhang: How?07:03
utnubukwhat prog is recomended for creating .iso's?07:04
Daisuke_Idoutnubuk: dd07:05
utnubukDaisuke_Ido: thanks07:05
utnubuk!dd07:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:06
wilsonmkisofs makes iso07:06
Daisuke_Idoutnubuk: try using k3b07:06
utnubukive heard of dd, i looked at man pages but didnt look easy :)07:06
naliothk3b is probably the easiest way07:08
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utnubuknalioth: yeah but i wanna be harcore about it07:08
utnubukheh07:08
wilsonmkisofs -o filename.iso  file_or_directory07:09
utnubukty07:10
Daisuke_Idodd if=/dev/cdrom of=/whatever.iso07:10
Daisuke_Idoi don't know how well that would actually work07:10
Daisuke_Idobut meh07:10
bazhanganton__: well, you do need compiz-fusion and all the plugins installed (both main and extra), as well as the settings manager07:10
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: might want to drop the / before whatever and it will :)07:10
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Daisuke_IdoJucato: just using that as a way to give a directory to store it07:11
anton__bazhang: I think I have compiz-fusion installed. Could you send me a link to a guide or something?07:11
naliothutnubuk: then dd is probably as hardcore as you're gonna find07:12
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: yes... but that will try to write it in the / directory, to which you don't have write access to :)07:12
Daisuke_IdoJucato: this is true07:12
bazhanganton__: not sure about a guide, though I can tell you how to do it--pretty simple really07:13
Daisuke_Idodd if=/dev/cdrom of=/directory/you/want/to/use/and/have/write/access/to/whatever.iso07:13
Daisuke_Idothere :D07:13
Jucatobah! just simply dd if=/dev/cdrom of=whatever.iso :P07:13
Jucatoit will create it in the current directory, and he can just move it himself later :P07:14
anton__bazhang: Sounds great!07:14
Jucato!compiz | anton__07:14
ubotuanton__: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:14
Daisuke_Idowhat if you happen to be in a directory you don't have write access to?07:14
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: simple answer: wth are you doing in there? :P07:14
Daisuke_IdoJucato: you know i'm just making your life difficult right now :)07:14
OliverKruegerHello World07:14
JucatoI can make yours more difficult :P07:14
Jucatoand all I need... is a little crown :D07:15
* Jucato waves to nalioth07:15
Daisuke_Idoaww, that's not very nice!07:15
Jucato:D07:15
Daisuke_Idobesides, it's bedtime :)07:15
naliothhi Jucato07:15
anton__bazhang: I have compis installed.07:16
bazhanganton__: and under settings in the kmenu do you have 'Advanced Desktop Effects Settings'?07:17
utnubukwhats all that talk about bytes and blocks in the man pages for dd?07:18
bazhangyou need to specify the block size ie 102407:18
anton__bazhang: Yes, I have.07:18
bazhanganton__: I don't have it on right now, so hold on a minute07:18
anton__bazhang: Np. :)07:19
guillermohow stable is gusty now?07:19
Jucatoutnubuk: for simple ISO creation, you don't need most of the other options there07:19
utnubukso dd if=whatever of=whatever will just copy verbatim07:19
utnubukok cool thanks07:20
eagles0513875any1 know fi there are any bugs with soundkonverter and the w64codecs07:22
eagles0513875!w64codecs07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w64codecs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:22
eagles0513875!w32codecs07:22
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs07:22
bazhanganton__: there are a couple of ways to do this (likely more); one is with the scale effect, that will make all the other windows become transparent--except the one you are on.07:25
bazhanganton__: by mousing over the various windows, the new one becomes opaque, and the others transparent07:26
anton__bazhang: Ok.07:26
bazhanganton__: try it--and you might want to make the top corner (or whatever corner) the trigger --located under bindings--double click the area under screen corner and then choose the one you want07:27
anton__bazhang: Sorry, can you repeat that in a simpler version?07:28
bazhanganton__: you need to adjust the opacity in the main window as well--I set mine to 35, which is quite transparent--though you may want more :}07:28
OliverKruegerIs the kubuntu-feisty repository (german -de- mirror) down?07:28
bazhanganton__: PM?07:28
anton__I can't msg you.07:28
bazhanghow about joining #kubuntu-offtopic?07:29
anton__Not registered.07:29
anton__Sure, see you there :)07:29
zgmf-x20ahey all.  have a question abt Kontact.  how do i change the font color of the names?  currently i cannot see any names after doing an import.  also, i am running it out of gnome.  i prefer kubuntu by far, but alas, my wireless card works on ubuntu, and not through kde...07:29
zgmf-x20aany thoughts?07:30
eagles0513875zgmf-x20a: what kinda card do u have07:33
eagles0513875!restricted07:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:33
zgmf-x20aeagles0513875: trust me dude, ive been thur it from so many angles.... ubuntu just works, getting it to work thru kubuntu was a nightmare...  its the intel wireless 4695 agn, integrated in my laptop07:34
eagles0513875zgmf-x20a: ouch. mine used to be a nightmare in any distro mines a broadcom 430607:35
eagles0513875where do i get the w32codecs from for some reason i cant find them even though i have all repos enabled07:35
zgmf-x20alol.  dude, dont worry about media stuff.... download and install vlc media player07:36
OliverKruegerHow do I change my repository mirror without editing apt/sources.list manually? Is there a tool to choose a mirror from a given list?07:36
zgmf-x20ajust type vlc in adept07:37
zgmf-x20adownlaod and install the main package and you will never have to worry abt codecs ever again07:37
zgmf-x20aman,,,, i miss adept.... synaptic leaves something to be desired07:37
Jucatowow!07:38
Jucatofirst person I've heard say that :)07:38
Jucatothere might be hope for adept after all :)07:38
zgmf-x20alol, its true, adept is simple, clean, and descriptive07:38
zgmf-x20asynaptic is all over the place07:38
Jucatowhich adept? :)07:38
zgmf-x20aadept that comes with 7.10 is fine07:39
zgmf-x20a6.10 was fine too07:39
zgmf-x20aits simple07:39
zgmf-x20athat is key07:39
JucatoThere are 5 brothers in the Adept family now...07:39
zgmf-x20ahey eagles0513875 did you get vlc yet!?07:40
JucatoAdept Notifier (system tray notifier), Adept Updater (update tool), Adept Installer (Add/Remove Programs), Adept Manager (the Big Adept) and Adept Batch (almost never seen/used)07:40
zgmf-x20awell, i dunno, my opinion is that it is much cleanier, simpler to use07:40
zgmf-x20aoooo, adept updater07:40
Jucato(the simplest would be Adept Notifier since it just displays and icon and sits there :D07:40
zgmf-x20awell and installer07:40
Zombocomhow do you edit xorg.conf from the command prompt?07:41
JucatoZombocom: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
zgmf-x20alol, yah that is good, but i mean to use for looking for packages, and seeing what they are for, and as a tool to manage packages its much better07:41
JucatoCtrl+O to save (writeOver) and Ctrl+X to exit07:41
Jucatozgmf-x20a: ah you haven't encountered a big issue I have with Adept Installer07:41
zgmf-x20ai only used to encounter issues back in 5.1007:42
zgmf-x20afrom then on, its been a beautiful tool07:42
Jucatotry search for GCC in there :)07:43
Jucatobasically, Adept Installer (Add/Remove Programs) only shows a limited number of packages, compared to the actual number of packages available through the repositories...07:43
Jucatoit sort of has it's own, smaller database...07:43
zgmf-x20athis is my second go on ubuntu....  since the 5.10 days...  the gui is quite nice, very mac esque...  with the closing and opening thing, but honestly, if kubuntu had that and the wireless networking ubuntu has, kubuntu would be hype07:44
zgmf-x20aooooo yah i knoe there is that issue07:44
Jucatowhich annoys me.. because, if you can't find a package in Installer that you know exists, you have to close it and launch Manager instead07:44
zgmf-x20ayahhhhhhhh i had that with my nvidia card back in 6.1007:44
zgmf-x20athat was hell07:44
* Jucato wants a unified, clean, simple but powerful UI for Adept Installer + Manager...07:45
zgmf-x20alol it is pretty clean, just the useful ness with thos types of packages yah is a pain07:45
Jucatoit's clean, but less useful, and a ripoff from Ubuntu's Add/Remove... maybe that's the goal anyway...07:46
zgmf-x20aSWEET,,,, kontact issue in gnome now solved... just had to re import after restart.... very odd, but with gnme it seems you have to restart after every kde app install to get it to work proper....07:47
Jucatooh well....07:47
zgmf-x20alol well its a derivative of ubuntu right, so that makes sense07:47
Jucatoit's not a deriv... it's a clone :P07:47
zgmf-x20aiiiiiiiiii dunno man.... they are pretty different in alot of areas..... well, front end wise07:48
Jucatohehe07:48
zgmf-x20athe core though yah, is clone, thats why i say derivative... like some stuff in ubuntu sucks so much.  the way to burn files and all, horrible, k3b, amazing, and konqueror, same thing, amazing, easy, this nautilus is..... not fun... lol07:50
Jucatooh I was talking only about the Add Remove Programs :)07:50
Jucatothat one's a real clone, interface-wise :)07:50
zgmf-x20ahahahahaha oh... damn that seems to be your focus... lol07:50
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Jucatoyeah. it's an itch I want to scratch but can't :)07:51
* Philip5-aWay is Away, Reason: ( at work ) | Since: ( Friday, November 2, 2007. 08:41:00 ) Xlack v2.107:51
Jucato!away > Philip5-aWay07:52
zgmf-x20ahahaha... im sure it will be equvalent at some point, i find kubuntu is always just a step behind ubuntu....  like as soon as 8.10 comes out, ill be back on kubuntu because it whould be pretty up to speed by then07:53
* Jucato sighs... 07:53
zgmf-x20acourse thats in like years07:53
JucatoI only know too well :(07:53
zgmf-x20alol07:53
zgmf-x20aaight now that i got the kontact back up and running im gunna go mess around with it for awhile07:53
zgmf-x20acatch you later man07:53
Jucatowell, Kubuntu 8.04 would have caught up to Ubuntu 7.10 by then. And Kubuntu 8.10 will have KDE 4.x installed by default07:54
TheGateKeeperhmm will be interesting to see what the upgrade path will be from the last lts version07:57
Jucatoyes very interesting indeed08:00
mm_202How can I turn off window transparencies from the console?08:03
mm_202I enabled them and it totally jacked up my screen, so Im running failsafe now.08:04
eagles0513875zgmf-x20a: no i have vlc08:08
bazhangpossible to use avant window manager with compiz-fusion?08:08
eagles0513875zgmf-x20a: the problem im having with all the codecs installed for some reason soundkonverter wont allow me to convert from wma to any other format08:09
eagles0513875!compiz08:09
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:09
bazhangI know all about compiz-fusion, just wanted to know if they could be run together.08:09
lounge-abouti have a 60 gig hdd. its ext3 formatted with kubuntu. currently only about half of it is being used, is there any way i can format, say just a 10gig partition to ntfs?08:10
Jucatoyou'll have to ask the compiz-fusion guys about that :/08:10
bazhangthanks Jucato!08:10
Jucatolounge-about: you can resize the partition to create a 10gb ntfs partition... (don't ask me for details.. I suck at doing that)08:11
Jucato!partition08:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:11
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Jucatoyou can use gparted08:11
lounge-aboutive tried using gparted08:11
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lounge-aboutbut it wont let me do anything08:12
Jucatoyou will probably have to do it from a live cd. since you can't do any actions if the partition you want to modify is mounted08:12
eagles0513875zgmf-x20a: i dunno what else to do except file a bug08:12
TheGateKeeperlounge-about, you should be able to use gparted to shrink the original partition, then create a new ntfs partition & format it08:12
TheGateKeeperI have done similar things but with ext308:13
OliverKruegerI want to upgrade from feisty to gutsy with adept. Doing so adept downloads an update-manager with a hardcoded repository uri (which is not avail at the moment). How do I change adepts behaviour?08:13
eagles0513875OliverKrueger: look at the upgrade instructions at the top08:13
OliverKruegereagles0513875: I did.08:14
lounge-aboutOliverKrueger: adept dist-upgrade08:14
lounge-aboutor adept install dist-upgrade08:14
Jucatolounge-about: er.... no08:15
Jucatonot valid commands.08:15
lounge-aboutor is it apt08:15
lounge-aboutapt-get08:15
Jucatoapt-get08:15
OliverKruegereagles0513875: there is no adept on the cli. :-(08:15
lounge-abouti go back and forth from KDE and GNOME a lot08:15
OliverKruegersorry. I meant lounge-about. ;)08:16
Jucatobut that's not the recommended method to upgrade to Gutsy08:16
lounge-aboutits how i had to do it...in a terminal boot on top of that08:16
eagles0513875OliverKrueger: its apt instead08:17
JucatoOliverKrueger: at what part of the instructions have you stopped? what errors are you getting?08:17
TheGateKeeperI abandoned (k)ubuntu because the upgrade mechanism sucked, good to see nothing has changed...08:17
Jucatoeagles0513875: if you're willing to give him exact instructions on what packages should be installed to ensure a complete upgrade, which repositories to disable, etc.08:17
OliverKruegerThe problem is: I can perfectly change the repository uri in adept. Everything works fine until the external update-manager is launched.08:17
eagles0513875TheGateKeeper: i upgraded successfully08:17
eagles0513875Jucato: all he has to do make sure feisty has all the upgraded pkgs08:18
lounge-aboutare you getting package errors?08:18
eagles0513875Jucato: then add the repos in adept the he can do a fully upgrade08:18
JucatoTheGateKeeper: it's improving... the upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy has not been very problematic08:18
TheGateKeepereagles0513875, hmm works for me doesn't cut it, has to work for EVERYONE08:18
OliverKrueger /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log says: IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty....08:18
eagles0513875Jucato: or he could use source o matic to change the source list and use the cli to do a complete dist upgrade08:18
TheGateKeeperJucato, tell that to OliverKrueger08:19
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OliverKruegerafaik, de.archive.ubuntu.com is down/corrupt/whatever at the moment.08:19
intelikeyi went all through the wiki on midi   and according to that it should be working   there is no "if" contengent for when it doesn't "just work"    so anyone have any insight at all on this ?      playmidi: No playback device found.08:19
sebastian^good morning folks :)!08:19
JucatoTheGateKeeper: most of the problems that have happened are 1) 3rd party repositories blocking the upgrade or 2) server traffic failing to fetch updates08:19
OliverKrueger2) might be my problem. :)08:20
OliverKruegerHow fresh is gutsy? Are the ubuntu.com servers still under heavy load?08:20
Jucatohi intelikey!08:21
intelikeyshalom Jucato08:21
TheGateKeeperI got fed up with this nonsense, so I only use distros with rolling updates08:21
JucatoOliverKrueger: not taht new. not sure why the german servers would have a problem08:21
lounge-aboutserver load is going down08:21
OliverKruegerI had probs doing a normal dist-upgrade (on feisty), thats why I chose a different mirror.08:22
OliverKruegerBut the new mirror is not taken for update_manager.08:22
Jucatoeagles0513875: not so simple. he has to 1) make sure all 3rd party repos are disabled and 2) make sure that some basic metapackages are installed, and some other checks. these are done automatically by the upgrade tool. but if you've had experience with some other method, please go ahead08:22
lounge-abouthm,mm08:22
JucatoOliverKrueger: any change you do w/ mirrors affects Adept and APT08:23
OliverKruegeryes08:23
OliverKruegerall.08:23
OliverKruegersources.list shows the new mirror entries.08:23
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sharkp'morning08:25
waylandbillOliverKrueger: the change goes into effect after an update btw.08:25
TheGateKeeperJucato, I still have dapper, but don't really use it, when the next lts version I will upgrade it just to see what happens, my bet is something will break along the way, but we shall have to wait an d see08:26
* intelikey sujests set the sources list and run... for Q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3 ` ;do sudo apt-get remove -y $Q ;done ;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:26
sharkpI've a problem with dolphin08:26
sharkpevery time I close it, it appears a pop-up saying:08:26
OliverKruegerwaylandbill: I did update with adept (and to be sure with apt-get again). :)08:26
JucatoTheGateKeeper: sometimes, expectations are self-fulfilling prophecies. but I do imagine there will be some bumps. there always are08:28
sharkpunable to save bookmarks on /home/sharkp/.kde/apps/d3lphin/boockmarks.xml. The error is: permission denied."08:28
sharkphow can I solve this problem08:28
sharkp=08:28
sharkp?08:28
intelikeysharkp own it08:28
intelikeysharkp sudo chown `whoami` /home/sharkp/.kde/apps/d3lphin/boockmarks.xml08:29
Jucatoknown bug :)08:29
intelikeyJucato oh is it ?   not actually a permissions issue ?08:29
Jucatoit is both :)08:29
llutzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/13645808:29
Jucatoa permission issue caused by a known bug :)08:30
llutz^^ dolphn08:30
sharkpintelikey, "bash:sharkp:command not found"08:30
sharkpsure about your command?08:30
Jucatoactually it's a kdesudo bug that affects not only dolphin...08:30
Jucatosharkp: yes. but you didn't enter it properly :)08:30
Jucatowhy did you include your name in it :D08:30
intelikeysharkp i was kinda hopping that you knew that your name was not part of the command....08:30
sharkpyeah,yeah, I know...08:31
ardchoillesharkp: You're path is wrong08:31
intelikeyardchoille lol08:31
sharkpardchoille, yeah, not boockmarks08:31
sharkpI've corrected it08:31
ardchoille.kde/apps?08:31
sharkpardchoille, oh, .kde/share/apps08:31
ardchoilleyeah08:32
sharkpI'll correctr08:32
sharkpis this the command?-->sudo chown `sharkp` /home/sharkp/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml08:32
intelikeytab key   man   tab key08:32
Jucatosharkp: nope...08:32
intelikeyno08:32
sharkpno?mmm...08:32
intelikeyno08:32
sharkpand why?08:32
Jucatosudo chown `whoami` /home/sharkp/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml08:33
intelikey`sharkp` <<< can't execute  sharkp08:33
Jucatobecause we're not sure whether your IRC nick is also your username :)08:33
sharkpand so? I've put my name08:33
Jucatoand `` does something elese08:33
sharkpit's the same08:33
Jucatono it's not08:33
sharkpJucato,  " "?08:33
Jucato`foo` will try to run foo as a command08:33
Jucatoto `sharkp` will try to run sharkp... which isn't a command or a program08:33
intelikeysharkp test this.     echo "whoami"      and also     echo `whoami`08:34
Jucatowhoami is a command08:34
sharkpok, "" is correct08:34
Jucato...08:34
sharkpJucato, ah!ok! I thought it was a sample08:34
sharkpok08:34
sharkpI've put "sharkp"08:34
sharkpok, solved08:35
sharkpthanx guys08:35
Jucatowe're sure about the commands we give. but we  do expect that you'll enter them as they are... unless you really know what you're doing. :D08:35
intelikeysharkp also  test this one       echo "$(whoami)"08:35
Jucatobash is confusing when it comes to "", '', and ``...08:36
Jucatooh well08:36
darth_chatrican i use the battery monitor applet outside kicker?08:36
darth_chatribasically i want to use that outside kde08:37
intelikeyecho `Q() { sleep 20 ;kill -9 $PPID ; } ;until false ;do Q & ;done`        <<<< that might explain it better08:39
emilsedghdarth_chatri: there should be karamba for battery, look at kde-look.org and install superkaramba08:40
Blissexdarth_chatri: that is not a good idea because it stupidly keeps writing the battery status to a file, wasting a log of power.08:40
Blissexdarth_chatri: using the KDE default battery monitor applet is a bad idea in KDE too as a result.08:41
JucatoO.o08:41
emilsedghhow are you Jucato? you feeling better from last week?08:43
Jucatoemilsedgh: yep :)08:43
emilsedghJucato: im happy to hear that08:44
Jucatothanks for asking :)08:44
Blissexdarth_chatri: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/blog/0704apr.html#070424 has the details and a not so good workaround.08:47
pete_;08:48
eagles0513875why do i need a wma encoder when all i wanna do is encode my music in another format besides wma08:49
pete_i'm trying to ssh my iphone but it says 'no route to host' (im at a hotel right now) should I wait to get to my home network then try?08:54
pete_i can see the iphone in the network thing, but when i try to ping it i get no route message08:55
darth_chatriBlissex: i dont have that installed. but the applet is there. maybe the name is something else08:56
OhmanHey, I have a problem. I can't startx. "No screens found"...Tried reinstalling nvidia-glx...08:56
darth_chatrithe config file is power-managerrc, what is the name of the executable?08:57
Jucatoguidance-power-manager ?08:59
TheGateKeeperOhman: you could try using the nv drivers to get things going to start with09:00
intelikeyanyone have a clue-by-four why i always get this from apt   Install these packages without verification [y/N]?    ???09:02
robinswHi all... any ideas why my external USB hard drive shows under 'Storage Media' but when I try to access it, it gives me error 'hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000'?09:04
intelikeyrobinsw that's a pretty common problem.   have you checked the forums to see what others are doing to fix it ?09:06
zsozsisziasztok  valaki  használja  a  kubuntu  studiot?09:06
robinswNot yet, intelikey. Is there a simple fix?09:07
Jucato!hu09:07
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál09:07
* intelikey </shrugs>09:07
robinswFixed it09:07
robinswUncheck 'Mount as user'09:07
robinswFuck you very much.09:07
eagles0513875!ohmy |robinsw09:14
uboturobinsw: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:14
MorgwyrWhat happens if you do let out a curse?09:15
MorgwyrDamnit.09:15
Agent_bobanyone have a place to post some shell scripts ?   i have a tarball of the ones that i would share with the world.   some are not so good some are #1     but i don't have a place to post them....     anyone ?09:25
anton__I have a driver problem. Compiz-fusion won't work. I've tried installing nv-xconfig and all, but it ends with me having to edit xorg.conf through nano and change driver to "nv" instead of nvidia.09:27
AT0M1CB0MB3R!nvidia09:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:28
anton__What can I do?09:28
anton__yes, I know how...09:28
AT0M1CB0MB3R!nvidia | anton__09:28
ubotuanton__: please see above09:28
anton__but it won't function properly09:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri have a ati card09:28
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbut no problems here09:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Ri have an idea09:29
anton__Hm?09:29
AT0M1CB0MB3Rdo you have the nvidia restricted drivers enabled?09:29
anton__I don't know. How do I check?09:30
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lg188hello back09:30
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranton__: press K and go to system settings and go to advanced tab09:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Rant09:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranton__: then press restricted drivers09:31
anton__I see.09:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranton__: then press administration mode09:31
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranton__: then enable it09:31
lg188hello evryone09:31
AT0M1CB0MB3R!hi | lg18809:32
anton__Now it's enabled09:32
ubotulg188: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:32
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranton__: now reboot and see if it worked09:32
anton__okok!09:32
anton__brb09:32
* lg188 is tired of not sleeping enough09:34
anton__Ok, back.09:34
AT0M1CB0MB3Rit work?09:34
AT0M1CB0MB3R!compiz | anton__09:35
ubotuanton__: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:35
anton__well, x started :P09:35
anton__yes I know...seen that message...been in that chat---09:35
AT0M1CB0MB3Rok just trying to help09:35
anton__yes, thanks man :)09:36
anton__it's just...when I install nv-xconfig, it doesnt work...09:36
anton__I'll try again, now that I have enabled restricted09:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryeah09:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Rrestricted is the driver09:36
AT0M1CB0MB3Rxconfig is the tweaker09:37
anton__E: Couldn't find package nv-xconfig09:37
anton__*sigh*09:37
anton__nv-xconfig09:37
anton__oops*09:37
lg188is 'sux' a command for root rights but how to end it 'sux' again ?09:37
llutzctrl-d09:38
AT0M1CB0MB3Rllutz: whats ctrl-d do?09:40
llutzend a shell09:40
AT0M1CB0MB3Roh09:40
Agent_bob?    end a shell ?09:43
Agent_bob</blinks>09:43
llutzAgent_bob: "exits from shell" (shell-depending)09:45
lg188is 'sux' a command for root rights but how to end it 'sux' again ?09:45
llutzlg188: ctrl-d09:45
lg188?09:45
llutzlg188: press ctrl-d or type exit09:46
lg188ahh09:46
lg188just closing the terminal kk ty^^09:46
AT0M1CB0MB3R!compiz09:46
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:46
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anton__How to change title bar color in compiz-fusion?09:52
AT0M1CB0MB3R#compiz-fusion09:56
E_mEhow do i get my Xgl to work properly under Kubuntu09:56
E_mEit doesn't work unless i use sudo startx09:56
Agent_bobE_mE that sounds like you have an xorg.conf in root's home09:58
Agent_bobor possably in your own.09:58
E_mEno i have xorg.conf in /etc/X11/09:58
Agent_bobE_mE startx will read the local config file rather than the global one.09:58
DrUnKnMuNkYhey everyone, i'm having problems with pidgin. it doesn't seem to want to stay open for more than 30 seconds or so. this problem seems to come and go. anyone have any suggestions?10:00
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: have u tried kopete10:00
E_mEAgent_bob: i dont have it my local anyhow...  i tried replacing X with Xgl in the xinit file10:00
eagles0513875can anyone tell me why i need to have a wma encoder to decode wma audio and reencode it into something else10:00
E_mEbecause i can't get it to work any other way10:01
E_mEAgent_bob: keep getting an error about moving logs in /var/log/10:01
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: At one point it time a while back. I was more hoping for a quick fix to the problem but if it does persist I'll consider switching to another client10:01
E_mEAgent_bob: but when im using standard X it goes in fine10:01
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: u on gutsy10:01
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: and is it 32bit or 64bit version10:02
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: yes10:02
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: 32 bit10:02
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: let me download it and see if i get the same problem as u do10:02
eagles0513875if so then i would recommend filing a bugreport and ill back up ur report for the 64bit version as well10:02
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: give me a min10:03
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: Thanks. the problem seems kind of random so I wouldn't be surprised if you're not able to reproduce the problem.10:03
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: if i cant then only thing i could say is use kopete and file a bug report10:06
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: jw u have upgraded all pkgs that need upgrading10:06
Uffe555Hey, I have some troubles with compiz-fusion...my titlebars disappeared..10:06
Uffe555what to do?10:07
eagles0513875!compiz10:07
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:07
Arandel[at-work]guys how do I install .deb package from bash?10:07
eagles0513875Uffe555: try the compiz channel10:07
Uffe555I'm there...10:07
llutzArandel[at-work]: sudo dpkg -i package.deb10:07
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: what protocol r u having10:07
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: trouble wiht10:08
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: everything's upgraded. well the whole program was closing. after 4 or 5 tries it seems to be staying open now. i'm using only MSN10:08
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: i would file a bug report though cuz there is a bug somewhere in the code. i would try and debug it and help ya with that but im still a novice programmer10:09
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: as am i. it's also after 6am for me and i haven't been to sleep yet so there's no way i could be bothered tonight (this morning?) thanks for your help. if it keeps happening i'll look into it some more and file a report10:10
eagles0513875DrUnKnMuNkY: alright dude have a good night10:10
eagles0513875or morning10:10
DrUnKnMuNkYeagles: you too10:10
Arandel[at-work]hmm guys anybody used kicker-compiz? how do I activate it....10:11
pabligenohola10:12
pabligenowhat app i need for manage my cell  phone?10:12
pabligenomy cellphone is a samsung sgh e90610:12
Uffe555Anyone know how to change title bar color in compiz-fusion? The ppl in that channel are apparently too busy to answer10:13
bobirashi to everyone10:20
bobirascould someone help me with a very litle problem cause i'm new to ubuntu plz?10:21
emilsedgh!ask | bobiras10:21
ubotubobiras: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:21
bobirasty :)10:22
bobirasi want to run a programm and the following messege appears. "Another aplication is using the packaging systme database (probably some apt-get application)..."10:23
bobirasbut i cannot find which programm it is10:23
[ifr0g]!fix adept > bobiras10:24
emilsedgh!adeptfix | bobiras10:25
ubotubobiras: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:25
emilsedghoh, sorry [ifr0g]10:25
[ifr0g]its k..10:25
pabligenohi10:25
pabligenowhat app i need for manage my cell  phone?10:25
pabligenomy cellphone is a samsung sgh e90610:25
emilsedghpabligeno: did you try kmobiletools?10:25
pabligenono10:26
pabligenowait10:26
emilsedghso do :)10:26
pabligenook done10:26
pabligenoand now?10:26
Arandel[at-work]guys how do I replace my kicker with kicker-compiz?10:26
emilsedghpabligeno: use it :P10:27
pabligenohow? :$10:28
emilsedghpabligeno: open it! its an application, go to kmenu->run command, type kmobiletools and press enter!10:29
lg188sombody knows a 1person shote free ?10:29
zgmf-x20aquestion abt konversation here,  forget how i add channels so they automatically connect when i open konversation, how do i do that again????10:29
lg188shooter*10:29
pabligenohey10:29
pabligenothis app10:30
pabligenonot is ffor samsung phones10:30
emilsedghlg188: there are a few good games10:30
E_mEi got a problem, when i use KDM and put my username and password in.. it doesn't go to the desktop10:30
emilsedghlg188: try AssualtCube10:30
E_mEit just freezes after KDM10:30
bobirasty for you help10:31
pabligenohi!10:31
lg188emilsedgh ty^^10:31
emilsedghnp10:31
bobirassorry guys, can someone tell me witch is the best way to learn how to use ubuntu cuse i'm a noob? :)10:32
lg188is boson a good game ?10:32
lg188bobiras use it and u learn it10:32
lg188bobiras try some things10:33
emilsedghbobiras: the best way is just tryig to use it10:33
bobirasjust trying :)10:34
zgmf-x20aquestion abt konversation here,  forget how i add channels so they automatically connect when i open konversation, how do i do that again????10:34
emilsedghlg188: i tried it, not too bad, but if you want strategy games try warzone and glob210:34
emilsedghlg188: warzone is like boson, but more complete10:34
emilsedghlg188: but glob2 is a very very nice and creative game10:34
emilsedgh!repeat | zgmf-x20a10:35
ubotuzgmf-x20a: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience10:35
bobirasty i'm truing to use it cause i'm boared of windows anymore10:35
emilsedghbobiras: windows ? what is that? :P10:35
E_mEwhy doesn't my KDE start from KDM>!?!?!?!?!!?10:35
zgmf-x20aemilsedgh: im sure you your self even know the answer10:35
bobiraslol10:35
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: no, i use kopete...10:35
lg188emilsedgh i will try theme10:36
zgmf-x20areally, kopete for irc!?  woah... thats pretty cool10:36
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zgmf-x20adidnt know you could do that10:36
emilsedghzgmf-x20a: im happy with kopete...and even i use it 'only' for irc10:36
zgmf-x20alol thats aight.  i have to figure that out one day10:37
goodhabitHello. How I can install support of mp3, etc? @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats subscribed only ubuntu way. And about proprietary drivers. Where I can find under kubuntu manager of it?10:37
bobirasdoes anyone of you is using a external WD hard disk?10:37
lg188emilsedgh warzone ???vcant find it10:37
lg188can not*10:38
emilsedghlg188: there is no package for it in ubuntu repositories, but it has package for ubuntu in its site10:38
emilsedghgoodhabit: Kubuntu Gutsy?10:38
zgmf-x20agoodhabit: open amarok, try to play an mp3 file, it will then prompt yu to install the drivers10:38
goodhabitemilsedgh: Yes, it is.10:38
thomax_hmm, something stange just happend to my touchpad on my laptop, looks like mouse acceleration suddenly doubled and the scroll function on the right doesnt work anymore10:38
lg188emilsedgh an url for me ?10:38
thomax_anyone any idea?10:38
emilsedghgoodhabit: when you try to play a mp3 file, it will ask you to install them i think10:39
emilsedghlg188: http://wz2100.net/10:39
lg188emilsedgh ty^^10:39
emilsedghnp10:40
poison--mornin guys10:40
poison--!compiz10:40
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:40
goodhabitWhat is "kubuntu-restricted extras" package?10:41
emilsedghgoodhabit: includes multimedia codecs...(its a metapackage that points to some other packages that include multimedia codecs, iirc)10:41
lg188why opens a namles kate file if i ry to d/l a  file ?10:42
emilsedghllutz: there are some games that everyone should try: Frozen-Bubble, Neverball and Glob210:42
ardchoillelg188: I noticed that too when I tried to download an xmms skin file (.wsz)10:42
bobirasto add a programm from adept manager is always necessary the kubuntu cd?10:45
thomax_bobiras: no10:45
lg188ardchoille kk10:45
emilsedghbobiras: no10:45
jpatrickbobiras: you can remove the cd from Adept -> Manage Thingys10:46
bobirascause is asking always the cd to go on10:46
pabligenohi10:46
pabligenohow i can see memory and cpu utilization?10:46
SeregCtrl + Esc10:47
jpatrickpabligeno: KMenu -> System -> KInfoCenter10:47
pabligenokde vigilant is poor10:47
newguyssguys please help, I nned to su but cant, I think I changed my user settings and group, how to solve that10:47
jpatrick!sudo | newguyss10:47
ubotunewguyss: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:47
emilsedghpabligeno: top ?10:47
newguyssyes, I cant run commands as root now10:47
ardchoillenewguyss: sudo not working?10:48
newguyssardchoille: yes10:48
pabligenommm10:48
pabligenowhat is top?10:48
pabligenoi have installed compiz10:48
E_mEhow can i fix my KDM so it actually goes to the desktop.. because at the moment it will let me login but wont let me get to the desktop.. it just freezes at post login....10:48
SeregHello, guys, I would like to start helping kubuntu with my programming skill, but don't know how :(10:48
pabligenoand unknown the memory utilization10:49
jpatrickSereg: follow me to #kubuntu-devel10:49
Seregok10:49
ardchoillepabligeno:  top - display Linux tasks10:49
bobirasjpatrick: ty10:49
emilsedghSereg: if you know qt/kde programming, then #lubuntu-devel is a right place for you, also #kde-devel and #kde4-devel need your help10:49
jpatrickbobiras: you're welcome, sir10:49
pabligenoMem:   1547508k total,  1479228k used,    68280k free,   344984k buffers <-- HOWWOWOOW10:50
pabligeno:(10:50
newguyssany help?10:50
pabligenothe utilization memory is very hight10:50
jpatricknewguyss: what's wrong with sudo?10:51
webvictimpabligeno: that's because it's cached10:51
webvictimpabligeno: type free -m10:51
pabligenook10:51
newguyssjpatrick: not working, I think I restricted my user while testing something10:51
webvictimand you'll see the true figures10:51
pabligenoroot@Kubuntu:/home/pabligeno# free -m10:51
pabligeno             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached10:51
pabligenoMem:          1511       1446         65          0        33710:51
jpatricknewguyss: the user should be part of "sudo"10:52
pabligenoi have 1.5 gb of memory10:52
webvictimodd10:52
webvictim             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached10:52
webvictimMem:          1001        945         55          0        143        55210:52
webvictimthat's what mine says10:52
pabligenoand compiz used 1.4?10:52
pabligeno::S10:52
webvictimpabligeno: what about the line below?10:52
webvictim-/+ buffers/cache:        249        75110:52
pabligenofeee -m10:52
pabligenommmmmm10:52
webvictimthat means that 249mb of my RAM is actual stuff, and 751mb is cache10:52
newguyssjpatrick: i think that my user is not part of sudo any more, how to fix that?10:52
pabligenomy english is poor10:52
pabligeno:$10:52
lg188kq ?10:52
pabligenoim dont undestand10:52
pabligeno:$10:52
jpatricknewguyss: do you the install cd?10:53
lg188!kq10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:53
pabligenoany spanish help¡?10:53
webvictimyo hablo solo un poco espanol :P10:53
pabligeno:D10:53
newguyssjpatrick: yes I have it10:53
pabligenome puedes decir que significa eso?10:53
pabligenocompiz usa casi toda mi memoria ram10:53
emilsedgh!es | pabligeno10:53
ubotupabligeno: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.10:53
webvictim(we're not supposed to talk spanish here :P)10:53
nathan_hey dudes im new to kubuntu10:54
pabligenojaja10:54
pabligenook ok10:54
pabligenowell10:54
emilsedgh!hi | nathan_10:54
ubotunathan_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:54
nathan_im currently on 640x res, it's killing me hehe10:54
webvictimbut compiz is not using all your RAM :)10:54
jpatricknewguyss: well, I think you'll have to go into it and chroot your disk and fix it from there10:54
webvictimit is just a feature of linux10:54
eagles0513875what does this mean10:55
eagles0513875checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!10:55
eagles0513875im trying to install transkode from source10:55
emilsedgheagles0513875: install xlibs-dev10:55
nathan_i must say this is an awesome platform, everything is great, auto detected my nic,audio, just need to install vid card drivers ;)10:55
eagles0513875emilsedgh: ty10:55
emilsedgheagles0513875: then you need kdelis-bdevel too10:55
goodhabitGuys, sorry for offtopic, last question - somebody can advice some mmorpg? ^)10:56
emilsedgheagles0513875: kdelibs-devel10:56
* goodhabit loves kubuntu.10:56
eagles0513875emilsedgh: can those be found in gutsy repos10:56
lg188kq do not enter config it screws your screen10:56
emilsedgheagles0513875: yes, sure10:56
eagles0513875emilsedgh: didnt find the xlibs-dev in repos10:57
emilsedghso 1 minute please, eagles051387510:57
eagles0513875emilsedgh: ok10:57
nathan_brb10:57
emilsedgheagles0513875: thats xorg-dev10:58
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eagles0513875also kdelibs-devel i couldnt find either10:59
eagles0513875emilsedgh: also kdelibs-devel i couldnt find either10:59
emilsedgheagles0513875: thats kdelibs4-devel or kdelibs4c2a or something like this, search in adept10:59
eagles0513875emilsedgh: ok give me a min to finish installing xorg-dev11:00
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eagles0513875emilsedgh: ty its working now11:02
eagles0513875emilsedgh: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!11:03
jpatrickeagles0513875: install libqt3-mt-dev11:03
eagles0513875jpatrick: ok11:04
eagles0513875jpatrick: i already have it installed11:05
jpatrickok, that's just weird11:05
jpatrickeagles0513875: what app is it?11:05
eagles0513875transkode11:06
eagles0513875jpatrick: i already have its dependency installed11:06
bobiras_sorry guys, do i need any spyware for linux or it's useless?11:06
jpatrickbobiras_: useless, welcome to the land of the free11:07
bobiras_:)11:07
bobiras_better11:07
ardchoillebobiras_: No, you definately don't need spyware for Linux11:07
eagles0513875jpatrick: i fixed it11:07
bobiras_finaly a serious OS11:07
eagles0513875had to download compat headers for previous versions11:07
eagles0513875bobiras_: and if u got a 64bit processor try out the 64bit version of kubuntu11:07
jpatrickeagles0513875: hmm, I'll package it for hardy11:07
eagles0513875jpatrick: what u mean11:08
eagles0513875ohhhh ok kool11:08
bobiras_dunno if the centrino duo is a 64bit processor11:08
jpatrickeagles0513875: in fact, I'll start to work on it now11:08
bobiras_how i can check it?11:08
eagles0513875jpatrick: reason im having to install it is im having an issue with soundkonverter and wma for some reason when i try to reencode my wma audio files it only spit out a 0b flac file11:08
eagles0513875i have the w64codecs11:08
eagles0513875have flac lame ffmpeg u name it i got it11:09
eagles0513875jpatrick: didnt have this problem in the 64bit version of feisty until recently11:09
jpatrickeagles0513875: but I'll put it in universe so that you don't have to compile it :)11:09
eagles0513875jpatrick: i have a link for ya11:09
eagles0513875jpatrick:  http://www.forwardyouth.com/ubuntu/11:09
eagles0513875thats how i found out about it11:10
eagles0513875do u have any idea about my soundconverter11:10
sponixanyone in here using Rosewill RC-208 Hard Drive Controller Cards? I just need to know roughly what transfer speeds they get11:10
eagles0513875issue11:10
nathan_hey guys how do i go about installing vid card drivers, cd is in cd drive, it has linux drivers on it.. so yah11:10
eagles0513875!video cards11:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video cards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:10
eagles0513875nathan_: what kinda card is it11:10
jpatrickeagles0513875: nop, soundkonvertors worked fine for me11:10
nathan_8600gt 256mb asus11:10
eagles0513875jpatrick: then what could be my problem11:11
jpatrickno idea11:11
eagles0513875nathan_: there is a cli command u have to run not sure what it is11:11
nathan_kk11:11
eagles0513875jpatrick: this issue is wanting me to go back to windows just to convert my music but i have everything the way i like it on here and i dont wanna go back to 32bit lol11:11
eagles0513875jpatrick: actually do mine teaching me how to pkg a compiled dependency and the compiled source code11:12
jpatrickeagles0513875: I didn't understand the last thing11:12
eagles0513875u know u said u would pkg it so i wouldnt have to compile from source could u teach me how to do that11:13
jpatrickeagles0513875: well.. reading the pkging guide would be a start: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html11:13
eagles0513875:)11:14
eagles0513875jpatrick: what programming language are alot of the pkgs written in11:14
jpatrickeagles0513875: none, it's done by the dpkg thing11:15
eagles0513875jpatrick: cuz if im goign to have to maintain it then we could have a problem there cuz im still a noob in the programming world. im learning java for starters11:15
ardchoilleeagles0513875: You want to convert music? From cd to mp3?11:16
eagles0513875no11:16
eagles0513875i have them on an external hard drive and i would copy them over11:16
eagles0513875converting from wma to flac11:16
ardchoilleok11:16
goodhabitHow I can install nvidia driver?11:17
nathan_in the 'restricted drivers' window, i select 'enable driver' but it says.. "the software source for this package: nvidia-glx-new" is not enabled... any idea?11:17
eagles0513875time to try out transkode11:17
eagles0513875brb11:17
ardchoille!nvidia11:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:17
eagles0513875jpatrick: do u mind pkgs it and it would be rather kool to have in the gutsy repos too11:17
nathan_I been through the ubuntu instructions which told me to enable it through restricted drivers section11:17
goodhabitardchoille: I tryied that, but it is not working (11:18
jpatrickeagles0513875: It'd only make it to backports, gutsy is frozen11:18
eagles0513875jpatrick: what u mean11:18
jpatrickeagles0513875: but I will get it into hardy11:18
eagles0513875jpatrick: :)11:18
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Webbmasteri have a black theme and firefox and konqueror mess up certain text boxes11:18
ardchoillegoodhabit: Which card do youhave?11:18
eagles0513875nathan_: did u do a fully upgrade or clean install cuz that dialogue box comes up when u first login11:18
Webbmasterie i have black text on black11:18
Webbmasterany ideas?11:18
goodhabitardchoille: nvidia card.11:18
ardchoilleeagles I can get wma converted to mp3 and wav.. does that help?11:19
giovanni_Vorrei passare a gutsy ma non riesco ad aggiornare da CD come faccio?11:19
nathan_yeah it is a clean install, first time11:19
ardchoillegoodhabit: I know that, but what is the model?11:19
nathan_with all the current updates11:19
goodhabitardchoille: nvidia 6600. problem is - when i open manager drivers, i see the message - proprietary driver manager cannot be loaded.11:19
eagles0513875jpatrick: i still have alot of stuff to learn about how stuff works11:20
ardchoilleeagles0513875: Seen this? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Transforme-me?content=6694411:20
jpatrickeagles0513875: we're all learning11:20
eagles0513875:)11:20
eagles0513875this is a random question i dont know if u guys would be able to answer it but u guys think a fully java based os would be vry practical11:21
ardchoillegoodhabit: Have you installed nvidia-glx?11:21
Webbmastereagles0513875: probably not, java is too high level11:21
eagles0513875Webbmaster: what do u mean11:22
gundam_rx78nt1good morning.11:22
eagles0513875it cant decode the file11:22
eagles0513875im goign to have to setup a windows vm11:22
gundam_rx78nt1I have a very unique problem (so far that I can tell).11:22
eagles0513875jpatrick: is virtual box in the repos11:22
Webbmastereagles0513875: well java is interpreted, so probably would be too slow11:23
eagles0513875even if its the only os on the system11:23
gundam_rx78nt1I upgraded to 7.10 and have the ATI fglrx drivers installed. In 7.04 I can change the resolution to 1280x1024. I can't get that in 7.1011:23
gundam_rx78nt1The max resolution I get is 1024x76811:23
Webbmastereagles0513875: yeah, that would make no difference11:23
eagles0513875Webbmaster: what would it take to improve performance11:24
Webbmastereagles0513875: it could actually be practical if you had one of those on chip decoders11:24
gundam_rx78nt1I deleted the xorg.conf file to start anew, but when I rebooted my pc, it came up into kde with a resolution of 1280x1024. What is going on?11:24
Webbmasteranyone have an answer to my question?11:24
eagles0513875Webbmaster: whats ur ?11:24
lg188when closing the KQ games creen ou have a wierd screen with only a piec of  the whole screen11:25
gundam_rx78nt1eagles0513875, isn't google trying to make a completely Java based OS?11:26
Webbmastereagles0513875: i wanna know how to fix black text on black in text boxes for certain websites11:26
Webbmastermaybe ffx extension?11:26
ardchoilleWhy does Konqueror try to open a file in Kate when I try to download a file? And how do I fix it?11:27
eagles0513875gundam_rx78nt1: dunno11:27
gundam_rx78nt1ardchoille, is it every file you try to download or just certain types?11:28
eagles0513875Webbmaster: i dunno dude i havent had that happen to me11:28
nathan_in adaept manager.. i search for "nvidia-glx" - how come it does not show up ?11:28
eagles0513875nathan_: just try nvidia11:28
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: Just certain types. like an xmms skin11:28
Webbmastereagles0513875: i have a black theme, which is why11:28
eagles0513875Webbmaster: there should be a way to mod the theme and change the txt color11:28
nathan_yeah i've done that, the only thing nvidia that isn't installed is 'nvidia-xconfig'11:29
ardchoillenathan_: That's because it is included in the current and new drivers11:29
Webbmastereagles0513875: it works for most sites, its just some that don't11:29
gundam_rx78nt1ardchoille, check your file associations and make sure that kate is not the default application to open that type of files.11:29
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: That file type isn't in file associations11:29
eagles0513875gundam_rx78nt1: i think this is what ur referring to http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/specific-rumors-on-java-os-based-google-phone-running-on-linux/11:30
nathan_ok well i still dunna wtf to do11:30
ardchoillenathan_: Trying to install the nvidia driver?11:30
nathan_yeah i dunno what to type in terminal to install the linux drivers that are on my video card cd? :/11:31
ardchoillenathan_: Which card?11:31
nathan_asus 8600gt 256mb11:31
grularen't there any readme files?11:31
lg188first pers shooters ?11:31
nathan_i can't view my cd content11:31
gundam_rx78nt1what is the extension for xmms skins?11:31
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: They are normally in .tar.gz packages, but some are in .wsx files. Regardless, konqueror should download them11:32
eagles0513875down with microsoft11:33
eagles0513875down with microsoft and ther drm11:33
ardchoilleeagles0513875: That is ot an option, I won't allow a garbage OS in my house :P11:34
eagles0513875ardchoille: lol im never goign back to it i need to get WoW setup on here11:34
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1:  This one:  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Winamp3-4-2-4-XMMS?content=2382811:34
eagles0513875ardchoille: after both my wifi and wired connectiosn crapped out on me last friday i can never go back11:34
Webbmasterbtw, anyone here use the bbc website?11:35
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Webbmasterhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/linuxbbc/ <- tell them11:35
eagles0513875i think my problems r solved11:36
eagles0513875i installed the program that i used in winblows to convert the audio to wma and now im going to try convert them to flac11:36
jpatrickeagles0513875: what -dev packages did you have to install for this?11:36
eagles0513875jpatrick: the ones u mentioned11:36
jpatrickand that's it?11:36
jpatrickok11:36
eagles0513875ya11:36
eagles0513875jpatrick: there is also one dependency11:36
eagles0513875jpatrick: which has to be compiled from source as well11:36
jpatrickwhich?11:37
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, back to my problem.  I deleted the xorg.conf file, but my system still comes up in KDE at a resolution of 1280x1024 which is great. If I then make/save the xorg.conf file, the highest resolution I get it 1024x768.  What is going on with this?11:37
jpatrickeagles0513875: taglib? you can install libtag1-dev11:37
eagles0513875jpatrick: taglibg i downloaded 0.6 they have 0.7 beta out11:37
eagles0513875jpatrick: didnt know that they were one in the same11:37
eagles0513875time for the moment of conversion truth11:37
gundam_rx78nt1ardchoille, use firefox.   I know it is not the answer you want, but you can also right click on the download link and save it that way.11:37
gundam_rx78nt1In konqueror.11:38
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ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: Right clicking on that download link saves the download.php file, not the skin11:38
lg188someone knows a 1persen shooter11:38
eagles0513875!games |lg18811:39
ubotulg188: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php11:39
eagles0513875lg188: take a look at that list11:39
lg188eagles0513875 ty ^.^11:40
gundam_rx78nt1ardchoille, you just rename the file before you save it to <filename>.wsz and it will save it.11:41
gundam_rx78nt1I  just finished trying it.11:41
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: And how do I know which extension to give it?11:41
eagles0513875damn it it seems that when i converted them to wmas it also drmed all my music11:41
eagles0513875any one know of anything that will remove the drm11:41
eagles0513875!drm11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:42
eagles0513875jpatrick: this would be nice to have in repos as well11:43
eagles0513875http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=13005511:43
gundam_rx78nt1if it is a .tar.gz it will download correctly, if it is a wsz, you will need to rename it. Now, if it open up in kate, the title bar will have the file name and extension.11:44
lg188tremulous ? i cant instal it11:44
goodhabitI cannot start my nvidia card. The error is - cannot load nvidia kernel modules.11:44
gundam_rx78nt1then just right click on it and save it with the name and extension from the kate title bar that you saw.11:45
eagles0513875lg188: u should be able to i had no problems i have it and it works fine11:45
gundam_rx78nt1I would suggest to use firefox.11:45
lg188eagles0513875 somthing of independit11:45
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: That is my point, it shoudln't open in kate, it should download the file.11:45
jpatrickeagles0513875: it's 1) closed-source 2) not KDE :)11:45
lg188eagles0513875 i did it with konsole11:45
eagles0513875jpatrick: just noticed that11:45
eagles0513875lg188: i dunno then11:45
lg188eagles0513875 ?11:46
lg188eagles0513875 dunno ?11:46
lg188eagles0513875 undo ?11:46
eagles0513875lg188: i dunno why its not working for ya11:46
lg188Resolving dependencies...11:47
gundam_rx78nt1it all depends on how konqueror detects the link and file content if I am not mistaken.  It will try to open it as text. You can try to go to #konqueror and ask the developers if they are online.11:47
lg188dependencies can not be resolvd11:47
eagles0513875lg188: does it give u a list of dependencies to download11:47
eagles0513875lg188: its easier to do the cli11:48
ardchoillegundam_rx78nt1: Ok, thanks11:48
eagles0513875lg188: type this in konsole sudo apt-get install tremulous11:48
gundam_rx78nt1you're welcome.11:48
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, back to my problem.  I deleted the xorg.conf file, but my system still comes up in KDE at a resolution of 1280x1024 which is great. If I then make/save the xorg.conf file, the highest resolution I get it 1024x768.  What is going on with this?11:49
lg188eagles0513875 its says : tremulous-data is missing cant instal11:49
emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?11:49
eagles0513875lg188: hold on11:49
gundam_rx78nt1let me try that...11:49
lg188eagles0513875 kk11:50
eagles0513875lg188: did u already try installing this11:50
nathan_synaptic in kubuntu? if so, how do load it11:51
lg188eagles0513875 a did bit it was with : sudo aptitude install tremulous11:51
eagles0513875try that again11:51
dfaurewhy do both slocate and find.notslocate run updatedb? (those are two cron jobs)11:51
* dfaure is a bit confused by the "package foo diverts others to..." mechanism11:52
lg188somthing of virtaul package11:52
TRSSpyhi11:53
lg188eagles0513875 its a virual package11:53
lg188and dependencies...11:53
eagles0513875lg188: ?11:54
lg188eagles0513875 somthinf of dependencies...11:54
lg188eagles0513875 somthing of dependencies...*11:54
lg188eagles0513875 resolving failed11:55
* lg188 brb11:55
nathan_hey guys for some reason it won't let me install wine.. from adept manager, says not installed.. i click 'request install' but can't commit changes??11:55
eagles0513875nathan_: try it from the cli11:55
eagles0513875nathan_: sudo apt-get install wine11:55
eagles0513875lg188: i honestly dont know whats wrong dude11:55
nathan_can't access it through system>advanced>windows application either11:56
nathan_can you elaborate on cli please, sorry im such a newb11:56
lg188eagles0513875 kk btw ty^.^11:56
eagles0513875nathan_: do u know what the command line is11:56
eagles0513875lg188: im sry dude it works for me and is quite a sweet game have yet to try it online11:56
nathan_the terminal ?11:56
eagles0513875nathan_: ya11:56
nathan_yeah11:57
eagles0513875open that up and type sudo apt-get install wine11:57
eagles0513875nathan_: r u using kubuntu or ubuntu11:57
nathan_kubuntu11:57
eagles0513875then type what i have above11:57
lg188eagles0513875 : i m bussy with downloading in manual11:57
nicociao11:57
nathan_it says: E: Broken packages11:57
eagles0513875lg188: ? what u mean11:58
lg188eagles0513875 it*11:58
eagles0513875!aptfix | nathan_11:58
ubotunathan_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:58
lg188eagles0513875 downlaodingf from the site11:58
eagles0513875lg188: worth a shot11:58
lg188:)11:58
lg188no at 88%11:58
lg188now*11:59
nathan_E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:00
nathan_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:00
emilsedgh!adeptfix | nathan_12:00
ubotunathan_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:00
nathan_whoops12:00
lg188its a run file ? just run it with ark12:00
lg188or konquer12:01
trssamhow can I install firefox or opera? in Add/remove programs I've typed firefox and it's show gray12:01
Gre4kaЛюди... Я приветсвую Вас!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:02
lg188sudo aptidude install firefox12:02
dfauredoes everyone have /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate + /etc/cron.weekly/slocate?12:02
lg188!ru | Gre4ka12:02
ubotuGre4ka: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke12:02
eagles0513875!gk | Gre4ka12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:02
nathan_emilsedgh: so do i type exactly this in the terminal: !adeptfix12:02
eagles0513875!gr | Gre4ka12:02
ubotuGre4ka: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes12:02
SeregaGre4ka: In English.12:02
emilsedghno!12:02
eagles0513875he wants the greek channel12:02
SeregaGre4ka: tut russkiy ne ponimayut12:03
webvictimthat isn't greek12:03
Seregait is russian12:03
SeregaI'm understanding12:03
lg188!ru | Gre4ka12:03
ubotuGre4ka: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke12:03
eagles0513875whats the difference between the 2 the spelling looks quite alike12:03
emilsedghnathan_: when someone says !something, ubotu loks for something in its database...its a bot12:03
dfaureeagles0513875: yeah right :)12:03
emilsedgh!adeptfix | nathan_12:03
ubotunathan_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:03
nathan_ohh12:03
emilsedghnathan_: now ubotu tells you what to do:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:04
trssamlg188: I have error: 'No candidate version found for firefox'12:04
lg188eagles0513875 nope12:04
lg188sudo aptidude search firefox12:04
lg188sudo aptidude search firefox \trssam12:05
kaodhello12:05
eagles0513875lg188: do sudo apt-get install firefox12:05
bobiras__is there a general site that i can download linux drivers for some devices i want to install?12:05
lg188eagles0513875 i have firfof12:05
kaodsine I upgraded to gutsy I can't mount my ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, I get a ''resource in use" error12:05
kaodany way to fix it ?12:05
lg188eagles0513875 firfox*12:06
lg188eagles0513875 firefox**12:06
eagles0513875oh12:06
eagles0513875bbl im goign to grab lunxh12:06
bobiras__is there anyway to install an external western digital hard disk?12:08
nathan_when i paste in the adeptfix in terminal, it's blank (with <finished>) at top of terminal window, is it suppose to show anything?12:08
lg188eagles0513875  the downmload i is just a kate file i can not use it as a programme12:10
eagles0513875oh12:10
eagles0513875brb need to restart my x12:10
eagles0513875restart my computer12:10
nathan_The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:11
nathan_  wine: Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed12:11
nathan_        Depends: lib32asound2 (> 1.0.14) but it is not installable12:11
nathan_        Depends: libc6-i386 (>= 2.6-1) but it is not installable12:11
nathan_E: Broken packages12:11
ardchoille!paste | nathan_12:11
ubotunathan_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:11
nathan_ok here is the entire terminal content: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43011/12:13
ardchoillenathan_: That's not your fault, I can't find those deps anywhere in the repos. Sounds like broken deps handling in the repos12:15
ardchoillenathan_: I think the most you can do is file a bug12:15
nathan_!nvidia12:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:17
Captain_RedbeardAny news regarding kde4 beta4 ever being in the repos? :P12:24
michal_mam prosbe...12:25
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michal_pomoze ktos mi ..??12:25
nathan_!wine12:26
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.12:26
lg188is silkroad also on linux avaiabel ?12:27
lg188or is ther a patch for ?12:27
kaodsine I upgraded to gutsy I can't mount my ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, I get a ''resource in use" error... is this my fault ? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ntfs-3g but nothing changes12:31
lg188what is the url of this channel ?12:32
nathan_how do i force close an application (adept manger) is not responding ffs12:33
arash_nathan_ start ksysguard and kill the process12:33
Jucatonathan_: Ctrl+Alt+Esc will turn your mouse into a skull... click on any program and it will kill it12:35
nathan_brb12:35
arash_Jucato - Wow! , had no idea12:35
ardchoillesudo kill $(pidof adept_manager)  ?12:36
lg188Jucato hehe cool12:36
Jucato:)12:36
ardchoilleSometimes when you kill a gui, it can still be running in the bg12:37
Captain_Redbeardso no news on kde4 beta4?12:38
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ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: Doubt it will be in the Gutsy repos12:39
ardchoilleUsually, the only thing that gets added to the repos after a release are bug fixes and security updates12:39
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, due to?12:40
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, the rest of the betas which has been totally useless has been released to the repos12:40
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TheWozAhey guys im having trouble with my kubuntu install im trying to install firefox but after i type su and it asks for my password it says authentication fail even tho i type my pass right12:42
ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: So kde4 beta 1, kde4 beta2, kde4 beta3 were all in the repos?12:42
ardchoille!sudo | TheWozA12:42
ubotuTheWozA: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:42
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, yup12:42
ardchoilleTheWozA: sudo apt-get install firefox12:43
ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: That's highly unusual12:43
emilsedghthats mozilla-firefox i think?12:43
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, beta1 was even available for both feisty and gutsy :P12:43
ardchoilleemilsedgh: No, it's just "firefox"12:44
TheWozAthx arch12:44
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, I guess I could add the debian repos to lay my hands on it... but it would be nice not having to do that :P12:44
ardchoilleemilsedgh: apt-cache search --names-only firefox12:44
ardchoilleTheWozA: yw12:44
emilsedghso, sorry for that ardchoille12:44
ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: Adding repos for other distros is not a good idea12:44
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, that's what I'm saying :P However when it comes to KDE4 the packages install to be able to live alongside kde3 so it shouldn't really pose a problem12:45
ardchoilleemilsedgh: There are some nice firefox extensions with the name mozilla-firefox-*12:45
emilsedghardchoille: i use konqueror :D12:46
ardchoilleemilsedgh: me too12:46
emilsedghardchoille: poor firefox :P12:46
JucatoCaptain_Redbeard: perhaps today or tomorrow (for kde4 beta412:46
max__buon giorno12:47
ardchoilleI keep hearing people say kde4 isn't usable atm. How true is that?12:47
dfaurecan anyone check if they have both /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate + /etc/cron.weekly/slocate on their system? or is it just me due to upgrade issues?12:47
Captain_RedbeardJucato, ok... I'm just baffled due to the other betas being released within hours of the official announcment12:48
emilsedghardchoille: not much true12:48
emilsedghardchoille: most of the applications are in a very good, usable and stable shape12:48
ardchoilledfaure: I have the first one, not the second one (Gutsy Gibbon here installed from livecd)12:48
ardchoilleemilsedgh: Ah, ok12:48
lg188wat is the url of this channnel ?12:48
ardchoilleit is #kubuntu12:48
dfaurelg188: channels have names, not urls :)12:48
emilsedghardchoille: plasma needs some work, oxygen style has some issues too12:48
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, well the previous betas hasn't really been worth mentioning.. they have more alpha-like imo, however the word is that beta4 is a huge improvement12:49
ardchoilleemilsedgh: is plasma similar to superkaramba?12:49
emilsedghardchoille: but will be done in time12:49
JucatoCaptain_Redbeard: Riddel is busy at UDS, other people who know the kde4 packages enough are also busy. the build system is a bit tied up due to merging from Debian Sid (taking snapshots)12:49
Jucatoardchoille: I haven't updated mine to to beta4 so I can't really say12:49
emilsedghardchoille: nooo12:49
lg188wat is the url to this channnel ?12:49
Jucatowhoa! dfaure's in here? O.o12:49
* Jucato is shocked12:49
dfaureJucato: yeah, just trying to sort out why updatedb is run twice by cron :)12:50
ardchoillelg188: your question has been answered more than once12:50
emilsedghardchoille: Plasma is mix of superkaramba, panel and desktop, very better12:50
ardchoilleemilsedgh: Oh, nice12:50
Jucato:/12:50
* lg188 helps Jucato out his shock12:50
* Jucato is still shocked12:50
emilsedghardchoille: but there is no code from them12:50
* emilsedgh joins Jucato, shocked12:51
Captain_Redbeardemilsedgh, that's a bit unfair.. it's completly rewritten and has little in common with superkaramba other than its support for its widgets... I would rather label it as an element motor with widget capabilities...12:51
* lg188 helps Jucato out his shock with tose things with eectro thing12:51
* lg188 helps emilsedgh out his shock with tose things with eectro thing12:51
ardchoilleSo plasma will be able to use superkaramba widgets/themes?12:52
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, yes as well as macosx widgets12:52
ardchoilleo.O12:52
ardchoilleWow12:52
lg188ardchoille ??12:52
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, it's also the engine behind the desktop and the panel...12:52
lg188ardchoille wat is it then i dint see it12:53
ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: I usually have so many windows open that I never see my desktop12:53
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, thus the whole desktop layout and architecture will be very flexible....12:53
ardchoille<dfaure> lg188: channels have names, not urls :)12:53
emilsedghCaptain_Redbeard: but they have the idea of 'widgets', and plasma is superkaramba + panel + desktop...12:53
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, I sign on that ;) But apparently you are going to be able to put the desktop "on top" of your ordinary windows... so you can have a glance at it without having to minimize all your windows12:54
ardchoilleCaptain_Redbeard: orly? That should be nice to see12:55
Captain_Redbeardemilsedgh, no... it may have the functionality of those elements... but it has nothing to do with them as applications :P12:55
poison--!backup12:55
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:55
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, yea :) furthermore it is native composite enabled... so "compiz-like" effects and plugins will also be usable12:55
emilsedghCaptain_Redbeard: :P12:55
ardchoilleOne of my complaints about superkaramba is that I never figured out how to bring one certain widget to the front without having to minimise all apps12:55
Jucatoare we still talking about Plasma? O.o12:56
* ardchoille hides12:56
Captain_Redbeardardchoille, yea I know... I struggle with that on a daily basis... I wrote a widget a couple of days ago that I use here at work... but I never get to use it since it's alwayd hidden behind windows :P12:56
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ardchoilleI think Jucato was hinting that we should take this to an ot channel12:58
emilsedghisnt any package for php-qt in kubuntu!? ghhh13:00
frojndHello there. Does anyone here has ati drivers sucessfully installed but he/she can't get compiz to work? I can't enable any of Visual effects. I get note: Desktop effects could not be enabled. Here is my xorg.conf output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43016/13:00
Jucatoardchoille: not really. I stepped out so I lost track of the konv13:00
bobiras_with wich programm do you see .avi files in kubuntu?13:00
dfaurebobiras_: xine13:00
ardchoillebobiras_: xine or mplayer13:00
dfaure(or mplayer, but xine is better imho)13:00
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* Jucato uses whatever works for the given situation, for the given file13:01
ardchoilleOh, wow, htop has the ability to let the user change color schemes13:02
lg188ardchoille let it go i meant irc.freenod.net/#kubuntu13:03
lg188.......:@13:03
bobiras_ardchoile & dfaure: ty both13:05
ardchoillebobiras_: yw13:05
bobiras_it's an extension of amarok?13:06
ThePianoGuywhy does gdebi-kde eat ~640MB system ram when installing a package?13:06
emilsedghbobiras_: what?13:06
ThePianoGuyit crashed before when I had 512MB, now I bought 1GB and it works fine, but the gdebi-kde ram usage is still horrible!13:07
TheWozAhey can anyone help me how the feck do i make my screen resolution bigger?13:08
emilsedgh!language | TheWozA13:09
ubotuTheWozA: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.13:09
emilsedghTheWozA: go to system Settings->monitor and display13:09
TheWozAlol thx13:09
TheWozAand solly for langwadge13:09
emilsedghTheWozA: if you didnt find the resolution you want at there, then go to terminal and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg13:10
ardchoillesudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg13:10
bobiras_the xine is an extension of amarok?13:10
ardchoillebobiras_: I don't think so13:11
emilsedghbobiras_: lol, no, you better try to install kmplayer to watch video13:11
emilsedghbobiras_: amarok do not play video...its just for you to rediscover your 'music'13:12
ardchoilleGot quiet in here13:12
TheWozAhmm strange my resolution is not changing when i press apply13:12
Jucatowas it something I said? :(13:12
ardchoilleJucato: No, definitely not you13:13
* dfaure wonders why gutsy's kernel failed to recognize some harddisk partitions at boot time, while when using a 2.6.20 kernel again everything works.13:15
Jucatogutsy's... um... gutsy :)13:15
dfaurenot sure if worth a bug report, kernel is already 2.6.23/24-rc1 (gutsy is 2.6.22 iirc)13:15
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richardHey, anyone familiar with the new ATI driver?13:18
ses59_I would like to add a cpu monitor to my panel does any one know what program I need to use?13:19
CharlieKaneTried searching using Adept ?13:20
Rudd-Ohai guise, kdebeta for kubuntu?13:20
Rudd-OI mean the real beta?13:20
Jucatonone yet13:20
Rudd-Osup juan13:21
Rudd-Ohow long? do you need help getting them out?13:21
Rudd-OI mean them packages13:21
JucatoRudd-O: it's coming. probably in a day or two13:21
emilsedghRudd-O: real beta? what does 'real' means? is there any 'fake' beta!?13:21
richardI'm having problems with choppy video play and slow compiz using the newest ATi driver...anyone know about that?13:21
Jucatopeople are just busy, and the build system is busy too13:21
Rudd-Oare there .dsc files I can use to build kdebeta?13:23
Rudd-Omaybe I can help build it13:23
Jucatoafaik, they're already in the queue, waiting13:23
Rudd-Ooic13:23
Rudd-Ojonathan around?13:23
Rudd-O(riddell)13:23
Jucatohe is at UDS right now. but he's nick is always around :)13:24
Rudd-O:-)13:25
Rudd-Oquick question: arts is dead on kde4 right?13:25
ses59_found the program I needed under applet on tool bar thanks13:25
Rudd-Ohow does kttsd, knotify and friends issue sound now?13:25
JucatoRudd-O: with Phonon, you can use whatever backend you wish. but yeah arts is practically dead13:26
Jucatophonon is the sound system now13:26
Rudd-Ofinally!13:26
Rudd-Ook but phonon I understood it to be something like an abstraction layer between apps and the gstramers/xinelibs of the world13:26
dfaureyes13:26
Rudd-Othis is much more to the point -- playback of synthesized voices and sound events13:26
Rudd-Ohey david13:26
RiddellRudd-O: hmm?13:27
Rudd-Osup Riddell13:27
JucatoRudd-O: basically yes. again, with phonon, you're not limited to a single backend. you can use whatever backend you want13:27
Rudd-OI'm assuming knotify plays event sounds and kttsd plays voices througn phonon api calls now?13:27
Jucato(well theoretically)13:27
Rudd-Oomg I woke up david and jonathan13:27
Rudd-Ohai guise13:27
Rudd-Oreading planet kde atm13:27
Rudd-O:-)13:28
dfaurephonon api calls: yes.13:28
Jucatoyou're done for :)13:28
dfaureand then they end up in xinelib by default13:28
dfaurewhich seems to have a number of issues :)13:28
Rudd-Oyes it does13:28
Rudd-Oin amarok the pulseoutput plugin of xine causes a 15 sec delay when paused13:28
Rudd-O(already reported the bug)13:28
dfaureup to now I saw deadlocks, very hich cpu usage, and crashes.13:28
Rudd-OI ask because currently my pulse is giving me trouble with arts, arts continually respawns fora while then it works, then it dies, then it continually respawns again13:29
Rudd-Oif xinelib and mplayer were horses in a race, I'd say the odds against them would be 1-8013:29
gundam_rx78nt1trivia question for all you kubuntu masters, what will cause my time advance?  I mean, the clock on my system only when I run linux advances about 30-40 minutes in about 5 hours.13:29
Rudd-OI'm not entirely sure about xinelib, but mplayer is a cesspool of bugs13:29
marishi13:29
Rudd-Ogundam_rx78nt1: usually the kernel is firing timer interrupts faster, you should install ntp and have it correct the time drift13:30
kaodsine I upgraded to gutsy I can't mount my ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, I get a ''resource in use" error... is this my fault ? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ntfs-3g but nothing changes13:30
marissomeone speaks german?13:30
Rudd-OIch spreche Deutsch13:30
ardchoille!de13:30
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:30
Rudd-Oaber nur ein Bißchen13:30
gundam_rx78nt1Rudd-O, let me see if I have it installed.13:30
Rudd-Oprolly ahve it installed, it's default in kubuntu but it comes configured not to do anything I think13:31
mariskannst du mir vielleicht mal bei nem problem mit meinem kubuntu helfen?13:31
Rudd-Oand I dun recall the options for ntp time drift autocorrection13:31
Rudd-Omaris, Ich kann versuchen13:31
eagles0513875!ge13:31
ubotuქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge13:31
dfaurethat's not german :)13:31
eagles0513875what is that13:31
jpatrick!de13:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:31
jpatrickeagles0513875: transkode in hardy13:31
gundam_rx78nt1can it be set up as a cron job?13:31
* Jucato though jpatrick was eating...13:32
ardchoilleeagles0513875: You're not good with languages are you? :P13:32
jpatrickJucato: I'm back now13:32
Rudd-Ontp runs as a daemon and corrects drift automatically when told to in /etc/ntp*conf13:32
marisich habe feisty fawn und will updaten13:32
eagles0513875lol i am but not with the abbreviations13:32
Jucatonah, not everyone knows de = deutshce (german) :D13:32
Rudd-Oits a non-listening daemon so it's safe13:32
eagles0513875jpatrick: ty13:32
jpatrickJucato: Deutsch13:32
ardchoille!de | maris13:32
ubotumaris: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:32
eagles0513875is there one for maltese lol13:32
Jucatojpatrick: extra e *shrug*13:32
Rudd-Opoor maris13:32
Rudd-OI want another meat lovrs' pizza13:32
Jucato!de | maris13:33
Rudd-Oi hear it's 340 calories a slice13:33
maristhanks ubotu13:33
Rudd-Odo you think it wil make me fat?13:33
ardchoille!thanks | maris13:33
ubotumaris: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)13:33
Rudd-Oubotu sounds even more african than ubuntu13:33
eagles0513875Rudd-O: u do know its a bot13:33
eagles0513875lol13:33
Rudd-Oof course13:33
Rudd-Ou-bot-u13:34
poison--lol13:34
marisumpf :-/13:34
Rudd-OI'd have to be rather daft not to notice it13:34
Rudd-Omaris: deutschsprachige Leute kannst du mehr in #kubuntu-de finden13:34
Rudd-Otype: /join #kubuntu-de13:34
eagles0513875ok cuz its funny cuz im in here and i get ubotu to do somethign and they actually thank him  thinking hes real lol13:34
marisjeah ive just joint de now13:34
Rudd-Othat's why ubotu jumps in and says (privately) that it's only a bot13:35
Riddelldfaure: you've caused the distro team here to collectively say "doh"13:35
Rudd-Owho here watches House M.D. ?13:35
dfaureRiddell: about?13:35
Riddelldfaure: about you two updatedb scripts issue13:36
Riddellyour13:36
Rudd-ORiddell: care to elaborate a bit?  I want to know as well :-)13:36
dfaureRiddell: hmm I think it was my own bug due to moving an old updatedb script from daily to weekly....13:36
marisrudd-o why cant i update my feisty fawn via the autoamic update?13:36
Rudd-Omaris: it's borken I think13:36
dfaurebut I'm still confused about why it's called find.notslocate :)13:36
Rudd-Okaputt13:36
Rudd-Oes funktionierte für mich nicht13:36
Riddelldfaure: we all seem to have it too13:37
Rudd-Oendlich habe ich das am Konsole gemacht13:37
marisso i must download the iso?13:37
dfaureRiddell: ah (in daily, I assume, not in weekly, then)13:37
Rudd-Osudo sed 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudp apt-get dist-upgrade13:37
Rudd-Oin eine Zeile13:37
Rudd-Oyou don't need to download the iso.  Do this: sudo sed 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudp apt-get dist-upgrade13:37
ardchoilleRudd-O please take the German to #kubuntu-de13:37
Rudd-Osorry13:37
Rudd-Owrong line13:38
Riddelldfaure: yes13:38
Rudd-Oto upgrade from feisty to gutsy do this: sudo sed -i 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:38
Rudd-Othat's the correct line13:38
marisor can i update13:38
marisEs wurden 1201B in 1s geholt (702B/s)13:38
marisW: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com feisty Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprüft werden weil der zugehörige öffentliche Schlüssel nicht zur Verfügung steht: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE26313:38
marisE: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)13:38
marisE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:38
marisbash: sudp: command not found13:38
dfauremaris: please don't paste stuff here!13:38
Rudd-Oyou need to run it with sudo13:38
jpatrick!paste | maris13:38
ubotumaris: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:38
Rudd-Onot sudp (that was my mistake13:38
marisjeah ok ^^ have seen it =)13:38
Rudd-Ohttp://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/11/02/upgrade-from-ubuntu-feisty-to-gutsy-the-one-liner-version/13:41
Rudd-Ofor the paste13:41
Rudd-Oand sorry guys for the german13:41
Riddelldfaure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/slocate/+bug/159516 we'll get it fixed for hardy, for now you can safely delete the excess scripts13:42
dfaureRiddell: thanks, that's good support :)  (are .dpkg-new scripts evaluated by cron too?)13:44
Rudd-Owhich scripts should be erased?13:44
Rudd-Odfaure: as far as i know, they will get evaled as well, run-parts runs them13:44
dfaurethat's kind of... broken. on rpm-based distros the .rpmnew files are skipped by such tools iirc.13:45
dfaureRudd-O: /etc/cron.daily/slocate and /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate.dpkg-new should be erased13:46
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Rudd-Ooh crap13:46
Rudd-OI just did the opposite13:46
Rudd-Ocrap13:46
dfaurehihi13:46
dfaurewell it will still work, but without the ionice I think13:47
Rudd-Omy machine is such a screamer that I never noticed the triple slocate run13:47
Rudd-OI kept the ioniced script13:47
Rudd-OI thought it was nicer13:47
Rudd-Opun intended13:47
dfaureerr but that's what I did too13:48
dfaureionice was in find.notslocate13:48
Riddelldfaure: yes they will be13:48
Rudd-Omine was in the dpkg new13:48
Rudd-Oor maybe I'm confused13:48
Rudd-OI should drink less13:48
Rudd-Onono it was on my dpkg-new13:48
Rudd-OI just confirmed it13:48
Riddelldfaure: the broken bit is having two scripts which do the same thing at all, the package maintainer much not have thought very hard about it13:49
dfaureRiddell: yes. I'm just pointing out that evaluating .dpkg-new files is also broken imho (unrelated to this actual bug), because you get things done twice in those .d kind of dirs13:49
Rudd-Odfaure: that's right13:50
Rudd-Ojust as evaluating .rpm* files is broken as well13:50
dfaureyes (which is why mandriva didn't do it iirc :)13:50
|neon|i am using a 8800 gts running kubuntu 7.10 compiz is running ok i guess never used it before so i do not know anyway my questions is XGL is not installed should i install the xserver-xgl and did the bug that made kde act slow wehn using it is resolved thx13:50
Quelhi there... i installed kubuntu a few seconds ago. Now i wanted to get my graphic driver again but i need a root password (sudo doesn't work any more)..13:51
Daisuke_Laptopis this not a bug for everyone?13:51
dfaureQuel: sudo doesn't work? even after restarting the machine?13:51
Rudd-O|neon|: you should not install Xgl13:51
ardchoilleQuel: Your first priority should be to fix the sudo problem13:51
Rudd-Oyou should just install the nvidia drivers, AIGLX should be enabled by default and working with compiz13:51
Queli just installed and boot without cD13:52
Quelnow sudo apt-get update wants a password13:52
Rudd-Oguise I don't know if you noticed, but when the computer logs in safe mode, it asks for a root password.  ubuntu doens't have one by default, how to fix a system that asks for the rootpw if you can't log in as root?13:52
ardchoilleQuel: That's your user password it wants13:52
|neon|Rudd-O: i did enabled the restricted driver and everything seems to work great i was just wondering about xgl thx13:52
Rudd-Oxgl is dead13:52
Quelahh13:52
Rudd-Oit was a stopgap measure13:52
Rudd-Ountil AIGLX worked alright13:53
Quelso my account is root account?13:53
Rudd-Oand now it does13:53
Daisuke_LaptopQuel: no13:53
Daisuke_Laptop!sudo13:53
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.13:53
Rudd-OQuel: no, your account is your account13:53
Quelbut why is root password my accountpassword?13:53
Rudd-Osudo only lets you run commands temporarily as root13:53
Rudd-Osudo asks you for *your* psasword13:53
ardchoilleQuel: No, your account is a user account, but your user is an admin too.. you need to use sudo for admin tasks13:53
Queli know, but why is it my account password?13:53
Rudd-Obecause sudo wants it to verify that a malignant hacker is not at the keyboard13:53
ardchoilleQuel: There is no root password. read the sudo page13:53
ardchoille!sudo13:53
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.13:54
Jucato!root13:54
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo13:54
QuelRudd-O ah that could it be. :) Thanks13:54
Rudd-Ohaha guys I win :-p13:54
Queli wondered so much, because login in as root is not secure13:54
Daisuke_Laptopwell yeah13:54
Rudd-Odo I get karma in launchpad for helping here?13:55
Rudd-O:-)13:55
Daisuke_Laptopthat's why sudo exists to begin with13:55
marisbye gays =) thanks for help13:55
ardchoilleQuel: Right, logging in as root is not necessary and should never be done13:55
Daisuke_Laptoperm...13:55
Rudd-Othink of sudo as microsoft user account control, done right and by smart people, instead of wrong and by a committee of drooling retards13:55
ardchoillehahaha13:55
rjune_Rudd-O: more like an exact copy of how Apple does it13:55
Daisuke_Laptoprjune_: that's what he said13:56
ardchoilleiirc, apple uses sudo too13:56
Rudd-Oapple uses sudo as well, exactly13:56
Rudd-Obut I'm still waiting for the magical "sudo make me a sandwich"13:56
ardchoillelol13:56
rjune_meh, I want it to fetch me a beer13:56
Rudd-Oyou know what would be neat?13:56
Rudd-Osudo sex13:56
Rudd-Othat would be REALLY neat13:56
Jucato!language13:57
rjune_Rudd-O: that's a bad word in here.13:57
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.13:57
Rudd-Oohhhhh, are food and sleep also bad words?13:57
rjune_beer and whiskey seem ok though. dunno why13:57
Rudd-O(I disagree with the policy as a matter of principle, but will comply in the future)13:57
Daisuke_Laptopwe tend to have food, sleep, beer, and whiskey.  therefore they aren't bad.13:58
rjune_I have that other non discussable thing too.13:58
Daisuke_Laptop</joke>13:58
JucatoRudd-O: that's good13:58
rjune_as evidenced by the fact that I have fathered two children13:58
darkanimelwe13:58
Daisuke_Laptopi could refute that, but i have no proof13:58
Daisuke_Laptopoh, and13:59
Daisuke_Laptop!offtopic13:59
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!13:59
rjune_LOL13:59
rjune_way to put me in my place. :-)13:59
Daisuke_Laptopthat wasn't necessarily for you, but the whole conversation, myself included13:59
Rudd-Orofl13:59
=== darkanimel is now known as C
Cciao14:00
Cqualcuno mi da' 1 mano?14:00
Jucato!it | C14:00
ubotuC: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:00
Daisuke_Laptop!it | C14:00
sercikHi!!14:01
Rudd-OI would give him a hand if it was a her :-)14:01
Rudd-Oitalian women are gorgeous14:01
Rudd-Oand, of course, if it was a her and she spoke a bit of english, since I'm zero to the izquierda in italian14:01
sercikRudd-O fon't tell stupid thing14:01
Rudd-Osercik: care to explain?14:01
sercikhi to all people that remember me14:01
sercikit was long time ago the last time i have wrote here14:02
ardchoillehi sercik14:02
serciki have a stupid problem with my monitor14:02
DreskenI wonder why I even bothered using Windows all this time.. o_o;14:02
ardchoilleDresken: lol, you sound like me in 200114:03
sercik14:03
sercikBrightness14:03
Jucatoor me in 200614:03
Rudd-Osercik too dark?14:03
Rudd-Oyou need to change the gamma settings14:03
serciksomeone cam explain me how to high 14:03
sercikBrightness14:03
ardchoillesercik: Sorry, you can't turn up the "intelligence" level for the internet14:03
DreskenSo maybe I'll get to say that to someone in 2008-2009? =P14:03
sercikRudd-O14:03
Rudd-Ofirst you need to use your monitor's controls14:03
sercikno don't worry oi was joking14:03
Rudd-Othen you need to resort to Gamma14:03
serciki'm italian14:03
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sercikso i don't like that you touch my girl :)14:04
serciki have added brightness control to panel in gnome14:04
Rudd-OI promise not to touch your girl, but the rest of italian girls are fair game :-).14:04
sercikand then i have used it with the result that doesn't work and now i have brightness very low14:04
Rudd-Oyou hve a laptop?14:04
sercikyes14:04
serciki have an acer 592014:05
sercikis there a commandline to raise brightness?14:05
Rudd-OI'm not sure14:05
Rudd-Owhat happened when you added the backlight control in your laptop?14:05
sercikplease someone help me... i don't like to reinstall14:05
sercikwhen i have adde nothing14:06
Rudd-Ohave you tried using the mouse wheel on top of the backlight control?14:06
sercikbut when i have moved slide14:06
Rudd-Owhen you moved the slide it becamse dark?14:06
sercikit doesn't work14:06
sercikis strange it works onli on down14:06
serciknow i have at minimum and i can' raise14:06
Rudd-Ohave you tried rebooting?14:07
serciki can move slide but doesn't work14:07
Rudd-Ofirst remove the backlight applet, then reboot14:07
sercikyes i have tried14:07
sercikwait i'll try14:07
Quelhow can i search for iceweasle with apt-get?14:08
Rudd-Ounless the brightness data is saved to the bios, this should take care of his problem14:08
Rudd-Oapt-cache search iceweasel14:08
Rudd-Oprobably not gonna find int unless you have the debian repos listed in sources.list14:08
|neon|sercik: have u try smart dimmer14:08
Quelthanks14:09
sercikno14:09
|neon|$ sudo apt-get install smartdimmer14:09
|neon|$ smartdimmer -g14:09
|neon|SmartDimmer level: 2114:09
|neon|$ smartdimmer -s 1014:09
|neon|$ smartdimmer -i14:09
|neon|$ smartdimmer -d14:09
sercikwhat is smartdimmer?14:09
Rudd-Oit's a dimmer that is smart14:09
Rudd-O:-)14:09
Rudd-Ogg:smart dimmer14:09
|neon|http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45178114:09
Quelhuh there is no iceweasle14:09
llutzQuel: firefox14:10
|neon|thats it what i have to use on my everex when i use only the battery toget the backscreen light to work ok14:10
Queland what is iceweasle?14:10
Quelan addin?14:10
Rudd-Oiceweasel is firefox with another name14:10
sercikplease explain me how to use smartdimmer..14:10
Rudd-Otrademark issues14:10
|neon|sercik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45178114:10
Rudd-O$ sudo apt-get install smartdimmer$ smartdimmer -gSmartDimmer level: 21$ smartdimmer -s 10$ smartdimmer -i$ smartdimmer -d14:10
Rudd-Ooh and very important14:11
Rudd-Oman smartdimmer14:11
llutzQuel: iceweasel is debians firefox14:11
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Quelcan i use it? :(14:11
Queli love iceweasel... is there a way to get it for kubuntu?14:12
ardchoilleQuel: download the source and compile it14:12
Queli never did it. i am a newcommer.. can you help me?14:13
dfaureQuel: what difference with using firefox directly???14:13
olethere is a .deb for switweasel somewhere14:13
oleswiftweasel*14:13
Queldfaure iceweasele looks cooler *g*14:13
dfauretemperature wise, I suppose :)14:13
ardchoillehaha14:14
Rudd-Oyou could download iceweasel .deb and attempt to install it14:14
Quelis .deb easy to install?14:14
ardchoilleRudd-O: If the .deb is made for ubuntu, then ok.. otherwise it's dangerous14:14
Quelnot good14:14
Rudd-Owell, why would it be dangerous?  if tehre are dep problems, it simply wont install14:14
Quelhow may i find out if it's for kubuntu14:15
oleQuel, you can also install many themes for default firefox to make it look cooler :-)14:15
ardchoilleRudd-O: Mixing distro packages? That's dangerous.14:15
Queli love the symbol and the skin... thats important to me14:15
Rudd-Oardchoille: you've never lived until you've mixed distro packages14:15
Rudd-Oon my old fedora I had suse, mandrake and rhel packages14:16
QuelRudd-O you're cool - hehe :)14:16
Rudd-Oturns out Smart package manager was actually quite smart14:16
ardchoilleRudd-O: Well, you can mess up your system, but please don't recommend it to others. If they mess something up, they come back in here and we have to help them fix it.14:16
Rudd-O:-)14:16
Rudd-Oaaight14:16
Quelhehe14:17
webvictimardchoille: but surely that's what keeps you going :P14:17
Rudd-Orofl14:17
Quelcan i switch the firefox symbol to iceweasel symbol after instaslling firefox?14:17
Quellove the weasel14:17
ardchoillewebvictim: lol!14:18
Rudd-OQuel sure14:18
Quelcool14:18
Rudd-Oyou can look for it in /usr/share/pixmaps I think14:18
Quelhow to install firefox?14:18
ardchoilleQuel: sudo apt-get install firefox14:18
Rudd-Oawesome smartpm syncs up with apt sources.list in ubuntu!14:19
ardchoilleSmartPM is quite nice14:19
Quelokay and what do i need for using open office? apt-get install openoffice14:19
Rudd-Oit's not only nice but SMART14:19
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LjLQuel, are you using some non-standard version of Kubuntu?14:20
|neon|has ne1 tried crossover with gutsy yet14:20
QuelKubuntu 7.0414:20
LjLQuel: then OpenOffice is already installed.14:20
Quelform a CD of an university-event (i took a look there)14:20
* lander brb14:21
garyHi everyone14:21
kaodsince I upgraded to gutsy I can't mount my ntfs partitions with ntfs-3g, I get a ''resource in use" error... is this my fault ? I tried uninstalling and reinstalling ntfs-3g but nothing changes14:21
QuelLjL you're right ^^14:21
landerglob2 cheats ?14:21
kaodany ideas on what's wrong ?14:22
MasterShrekkaod, is it already mounted?14:22
garyI have a question and I'd be very happy if someone could help me out with this14:22
MasterShrekask away gary14:22
garyI just installed Slackware 12 on dvd14:22
kaodnope MasterShrek, I don't think so14:22
MasterShrekgary, this is an ubuntu channel, but slackware ftw :)14:22
kaodit's auto mounted to /media/, isn't it ?14:22
MasterShrekkaod, yes i believe so14:23
garyI know, but i'm kinda in a hurry :-(14:23
kaodthen it's not mounted... /etc/fstab only points to my mount points, but it's not mounted14:23
oleso ask, what's the problem?14:23
MasterShrekkaod, is that the only thing it says? "resource in use" ?14:24
garyI want to know how I can start up the system in the KDE mode14:24
garyIt boots up in text mode14:24
garyAnyone??14:24
kaodyes, that's the only error messageç14:24
MasterShrekgary, put kdm in /etc/rc.d/rc.local14:24
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kaod(well, "Mount failed." too, but there's not much info there :D)14:25
MasterShrekgary, you may need the absolute path to it, like /usr/bin/kdm  or something, i cant exactly remember where its located in slack 1214:25
MasterShrekkaod, try umount -f /dev/....14:26
landerglobulation 2 hjase cheats ?14:26
garyThanks a million, Master shrek!!!!14:26
MasterShreknp gary14:26
garyI just typed in "kdm" and I have it running now14:26
MasterShrekgary, btw there is a slackware channel: #slackware :)14:26
garyThanks man14:26
kaodumount2: Non valid argument ; umount: /dev/sda5: not mounted14:26
MasterShrekgary, yes, but put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local so it starts every time14:26
garyOk( I'm kinda new in this linux stuff)14:26
MasterShrekgary, well you will learn fast using slackware :) its a wonderful distro14:27
garyAnd I really like it14:27
garyThanks again, and have a nice day you all14:27
garyI'm out14:27
garyPeace...14:27
MasterShrekkaod, not really sure then, is there an entry for it in /etc/fstab?14:28
kaodyes, but it fails mounting too, I tried commenting it and mounting it by myself and I get the same error14:28
kaodso I think that the resource is in use even before the system is really booted-up14:28
MasterShrekkaod, and you are sure that is the ntfs partition not something like your swap partition or soemthing?14:29
kaodyeah, I'm sure14:30
MasterShrekhmm, then i dunno for sure14:31
kaodwhere can I see the boot log ? maybe there's more info there about the mount fail14:31
Rudd-O/var/log14:32
Rudd-Oor ksystemlog14:32
kaodI know it should be at /var/log, but what's the file name ?14:32
sercikoh my god14:33
serciki need help14:33
sercikthe brightness is low not only in linux but always14:33
sercikit seems that brightness applet have changed brightness in bios14:33
Rudd-Ocan you go into bios?14:33
sercikyes also if i see very few14:34
ooFeMoe9rehow to start compiz automaticaly with kde?14:34
sercikbut i don't remember that tjere is an option for brightness14:34
TRSSpyhi, can someone please check MD5Sum for kubuntu-7.10-dvd-amd64.iso I've calculated 0bc8915140a787eccd1fc5029ac0533b with http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/ but I've found in MD5SUMS.txt that correct should be - 8703b7773f717e171e48742c374b322a14:35
jessy_jameshi,exist applet for monitor battery mouse usb ?14:36
RiddellTRSSpy: MD5SUMS.txt is unlikely to be wrong14:36
* lander bbi15m14:37
Quelis there a command to get to know which kind of soundcard i got?14:37
MasterShreklspci | grep Audio14:37
TRSSpyRiddell: but I really don't want to download 4.4 GB again it takes 6 hours :/14:38
MasterShrekjessy_james, probably not14:38
michael__sweet14:38
MasterShrekTRSSpy, where did u get MD5SUMS.txt ? from the download directory?14:38
Quelthank you, MasterShrek14:39
TRSSpyMasterShrek: yeah, from - http://ubuntu-cdimage.datahop.it/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/14:39
jasonagohow will I open rar files in ark? is there anything that I need to install first just like when opening 7z?14:39
jasonagoI can't open rar files....14:39
RiddellTRSSpy: use bittorrent, it'll fill in the gaps14:40
MasterShrekTRSSpy, i doubt it would be wrong then, your image is probabyl corrupt, i would try using bittorrent if i were you, probably faster...btw do you need the dvd? or can u just use the cd and install software from the net afterwards?14:40
MasterShrekjasonago, unrar-nonfree iirc14:40
dfaurejasonago: we don't have RAR code in kde svn; AFAIK.14:40
QuelATI Technologies INC SBx00 Azalia... where can ic get a driver?14:41
MasterShrekjasonago, its just unrar: sudo apt-get install unrar14:41
TRSSpyMasterShrek: I can install from the net but in CD version I don't see 'Install as server option' and I'd like to install apache with phpmyadmin14:41
MasterShrekTRSSpy, just download the server edition of ubuntu14:41
MasterShrekTRSSpy, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download                  on the right choose server14:42
jasonagoPackage unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.14:42
jasonagoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or14:42
jasonagois only available from another source14:42
jasonagoE: Package unrar has no installation candidate14:42
jasonago============That was the output, what will I do?============14:42
MasterShrek!info unrar14:42
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB14:42
Vermuxhow do I c the priority of precesses?14:43
MasterShrekjasonago, did you enable multiverse?14:43
jasonagoOk now I know....multiverse....14:43
jasonagoI'll get it individually...14:43
MasterShrekjasonago, why not just enable the repository? its much easier and gives you access to more software14:44
jasonagoI can't download big files coz I'm using winmodem at 14kbps only....linuxant's greediness...14:44
jasonagoand i cant enable all the repositories because when I download the list, synaptics get hanged coz of slow internet connection...14:44
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jasonagohow will I be able to change the appearance of the kmenu icon?14:57
Jucatojasonago: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255243314:58
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andriuchagalbut kas nors zinote kaip susikonfiguruoti bevieli interneta ant kubuntu os?14:59
Vermux!alias15:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:04
MasterShrek!info alias15:04
ubotuPackage alias does not exist in gutsy15:04
MasterShrekVermux, what do u need to know about alias?15:05
* lander is back15:05
Vermuxthe first time I see this word15:05
Vermuxwhat is it15:05
MasterShrekaliases allow a string to be substituted for a word when it is used as the first word of a simple command15:06
JucatoThe  alias utility shall create or redefine alias definitions or write the values of existing alias definitions to standard output. An alias definition provides a string value that shall replace a command name when it is encountered; see Alias Substitution .15:06
VermuxMasterShrek: Im reading man top.15:06
Jucatoman alias15:06
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* lg188 is back15:07
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Jucato!away > lg18815:08
VermuxJucato: no manual entry to alias15:08
Jucatoweird..15:08
MasterShrekJucato, i cant man alias either15:08
JucatoVermux: to put it simply, an alias is an alias (duh!) to any (usually longer) command15:08
Jucatohm..  might have an extra package installed. like man-pages...15:09
estoesderisaHello, I click on Knetworkmanager but doesnt start15:09
lg188Jucato me sorry its my name and i like anonymus-ety of my name15:09
llutzalias is a shell builtin15:09
JucatoVermux: you can make shortcuts to longer commands or a group of commands.15:10
jpatricklg188: we don't want away messages flooding up the channel tho ;)15:10
VermuxJucato: what will be example for the use of alias with top?15:11
Jucatodunno15:11
lg188jpatrick wtf im sorry you dont have to be angry at me of being a beginer nobody telled me befor of that nick change thing15:11
Jucatolg188: that's why I did the !away thing15:12
jpatricklg188: I wasn't angry, I was just saying15:12
VermuxJucato: "Summary_Area: The program name is shown, perhaps a symlink or alias."15:12
lg188Jucato/jpatrick kk i wil stay cool now ...15:12
JucatoVermux: still don't know :)15:12
Jucatoalias = "another name"15:13
VermuxJucato: so alias can be shortcut for a name15:13
Vermux?15:13
VermuxJucato: ok, thanks15:13
Jucatothe "program name"15:13
Philip5-aWay!Guidelines15:13
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:13
MasterShrekVermux, example: alias rabbit="ssh 192.168.1.102"15:13
Jucatofor example, I can alias apt-get to "superpowers"... so that when I call "superpowers", I'm actually calling apt-get15:13
Jucatoprobably that will show in top as well15:14
MasterShrekVermux, now when i type rabbit on the command line it will ssh 192.168.1.10215:14
lg188Philip5-aWay ty =.=15:14
llutzMasterShrek: you're not allowed to ssh my PC :)15:14
MasterShrek=P15:14
VermuxMasterShrek: ok15:15
Vermuxa task is a process?15:20
Exploit_do i have feist?15:21
Exploit_Kubuntu 7.0415:21
MasterShrekExploit_, yes15:22
MasterShrekfeisty*15:22
Exploit_ok15:22
Exploit_thank you15:22
Exploit_does this command work on feisty: pgrade gutsy ubuntu: run this command: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)?15:22
MasterShrekExploit_, i dunno, try it and find out15:23
W8TAH|classi have a strange situation - -i just tried to login to my kubuntu gusty laptop and the keyboard works fine in grub and on the dual boot windows, but as soon as kdm comes up, it stops workin15:23
W8TAH|classany suggestions whats up or where to look?15:23
poison--xorg.conf15:23
poison--i think15:23
MasterShrekyes probably xorg.conf15:24
poison--tried safe mode15:24
W8TAH|classive not edited xorg.conf -- im logging in in safe mode now15:24
MasterShrekif you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you should be able to reconfigure it15:24
W8TAH|classcool15:24
W8TAH|classvery excellent15:24
jkimiluhi15:25
andriswelcome15:26
MasterShrekw31c0m315:26
jkimiluthanks now i have a slight issue with my distro mind if i ask??15:26
MasterShrekask away15:26
W8TAH|classwow that reconfigure thingy is cool - much easier than gentoo15:27
jkimilui have tried updatin using apt-get and this is the error i get15:27
jkimilu (14 Viewing)15:27
jkimiluThis forum is for the discussion of all Linux Software used in a desktop context.15:27
MasterShrekW8TAH|class, anything is easier than gentoo15:27
MasterShreklol15:27
MasterShrekjkimilu, that hardly looks like an error15:27
W8TAH|classMasterShrek: LOL -- i liked it just got tired of the dev fight and it didnt scale well to 7 or 8 machines15:28
X314Z159hm, is there an easy way to convert an .avi to dvd5?15:28
W8TAH|classMasterShrek: i ran through the script and it didnt help15:28
MasterShrekW8TAH|class, i find gentoo quite useless, it takes way too much time to set up when u can do about the same thing with any other distro15:28
jkimilui get this Cannot initiate the connection to 3128:80 (0.0.12.56). - connect (22 Invalid argument)15:28
jkimiluam on ubuntu15:29
W8TAH|classMasterShrek: ya -- im converting all my servers to ubuntu LTS now15:29
MasterShrekW8TAH|class, i use slackware on my servers, ubuntu on my desktops usually15:29
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MasterShrekjkimilu, whats the command you are entering?15:29
jkimiluso any id3as of the cause or b3tt3r y3t a solution???15:30
W8TAH|classMasterShrek: i'll be back in a few - i gotta switch classrooms15:30
jkimilusudo apt-get update15:30
MasterShrekjkimilu, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list15:30
MasterShrekjkimilu, while you are doing that, ill brb, giong to reboot and try my newly compiled kernel :)  back in a flash....15:31
jkimilu# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:15:31
jkimiludeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted15:31
jkimilu# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:15:31
jkimiludeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted15:31
jkimilu## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the15:31
jkimilu## distribution.15:31
jkimilu# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:15:31
jkimiludeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted15:31
jkimilu# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:15:31
jkimiludeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted15:31
jkimilu## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'15:31
Jucatowell at least Freenode did it for me :)15:31
jpatrick!paste | jkimilu15:32
ubotujkimilu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:32
jkimiluso sorrry15:32
jkimilulol15:32
jkimiluso any ideas what the issue might be??15:33
jkimiluthere pasted it on pastebin15:33
llutzjkimilu: you#re using a proxy?15:33
Exploit_can i use beryl with kubuntu?15:34
jkimiluno am directly connected15:34
JucatoExploit_: beryl is defunct... compiz-fusion is compiz+beryl. and yes15:35
Jucato!compiz | Exploit_15:35
ubotuExploit_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:35
jkimilullutz have you seen the file???15:36
Exploit_thank you15:36
LjLcan anyone confirm that, in Dolphin, the status bar is misrendered when a long filename is hovered on, as i reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/159544 ?15:36
jkimilui have really tried updating this distro and its really frustating15:36
MasterShrekok back :)15:37
jkimiluMastershrek so any progress15:37
JucatoLjL: you don't even need to have a long filename... just resize d3lphin to have a very narrow width, and the status bar increases its height to accommodate the contents15:38
MasterShrekjkimilu, did u pastebin your sources?15:38
jkimiluyes i did15:39
MasterShrekcan you give me the link?15:39
JucatoLjL: so it might actually be a "feature" of D3lphin... resizing statusbart15:39
jkimiluihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43021/15:39
jim88hi all ... is there a fix for kdesudo in 7.10 yet?  if not, how can I work around it denying some programs to run15:40
MasterShrekjim88, there was just an update for kdesudo, i just installed it today15:40
jkimilugot it??15:40
MasterShrekjkimilu, well your sources.list looks fine15:40
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draik!source15:41
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html15:41
jim88ok, thanks master shrek ... i tried last night and there was nothing15:41
draik!source-o-matic15:41
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic15:41
jkimiluMastershrek yeah am wondering where the proxy is coming in??15:41
LjLJucato, i mentioned that in the report. however i find it hard to consider it a "feature", given that 1) it makes selecting certain files hard or impossible 2) moving the mouse over such files results in the statusbar refreshing like mad15:42
MasterShreki got no idea jkimilu15:42
jkimiluyet even in the synaptic pkgm there are no proxies specified15:42
jkimiluwow seems am in real trouble here15:42
llutzjkimilu: try "unset http_proxy sudo apt-get update"15:42
JucatoLjL: hence "feature"... it might have been a KDE 3 Dolphin bug that has been fixed in KDE 4...15:42
Jucatoanyway have to brb15:43
jkimiluunset----command not found15:44
draikNot many repos in Gutsy. Are they in the process of being added?15:44
BluesKajHowdy all :)15:44
jkimilullutz command failed miserably15:45
draikHello BluesKaj15:45
ardchoillehi BluesKaj15:45
BluesKajhi draik15:45
BluesKajardchoille,15:45
llutzjkimilu: sry "unset http_proxy ; sudo apt-get update"15:45
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BluesKajhmm, i haven't checked source-o-matic lately ...wonder if any gutsy repos have been added15:46
jkimilullutz:same ol' 3rror15:46
jim88I'm not sure how anyone else feels but I think that kubuntu 7.10 was the best install and upgrade to date that I have done15:46
slow-motionhallo15:46
jkimiluam really wondering where the proxy issue is coming from15:47
X314Z159okay. how do I find programs that are not listed in adept.. and how do I install them?15:47
BluesKajsource-o-matic looks the same as it was 2 weeks ago15:48
ardchoilleX314Z159: The programs listed in adept are the apps in the repos, you can enable more repos to see more apps.. but that's about it. Otherwise, you can compile almost anything.15:48
BluesKajX314Z159, you just have to search for the the apps you want on google or other search engines , then DL and compile15:50
X314Z159how do I compile?15:50
BluesKaj!compile15:51
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)15:51
ardchoille!compile | X314Z15915:51
ubotuX314Z159: please see above15:51
draikBluesKaj: Yeah. I just updated my laptop to Gutsy. My desktop is still Feisty. Testing the waters and all.15:51
X314Z159okay. thanks guys :D15:51
draikWhat would happen if I enabled the Feisty repos with Gutsy?15:51
ardchoilledraik: That might break a lot of things15:52
draikardchoille: Thanks. I figured as much but thought I'd ask.15:52
jkimiluanyone who has had an issue with apt-g3t?????? saying there's a proxy error??15:52
jkimilusee my pastebin on sources.list:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43021/15:53
llutzjkimilu: it's spelled "apt-get" and you should it use this way to be taken serious15:53
BluesKajdraik, I'm not "real impressed" with gutsy , but it will do for now ... at least there is an attempt to help us poor ATI owners with 3D and DRI using the restricted fglrx driver ...altho in my case google earth is slow and clunky , but it does work if you have patience15:54
draikSomeone was telling me (at work) that they modified their system so that they can be in Kubuntu (example) and back out to GRUB instantly and choose another OS to load. Is this possible?15:54
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Siouxdid they tell u how?15:55
draikBluesKaj: I'm happy with the simplest of things.15:55
BluesKajnews to me draik15:55
e-m00anyone got a few minutes to lend a hand? (wifi issues)15:56
draikSioux: No. It was a dang-it-my-break-is-over conversation.15:56
BluesKaj!wireless | e-m0015:56
ubotue-m00: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:56
e-m00thx15:57
draikShould I consider it as bogus as m$ security?15:57
e-m00okay, so i still have a question16:00
jkimiluok i get it llutz16:00
jkimiluso any one has an idea? i read somewhere it had a bug s16:01
jkimiluam using dapper-back-ports16:01
BluesKaj!ask e-m0016:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask e-m00 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:02
BluesKaj!ask | e-m0016:03
ubotue-m00: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)16:03
e-m00okay, so i have to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter package (i assume from apt) in order to get my wireless working, but i conveniently also seem to be having issues with my ethernet not working as well16:04
e-m00wait...nvm i just got ethernet working...hold on16:05
jasonagowhy does the avatars of my friends doesnt appear in kopete?16:06
jasonagoI think that should be automatic...16:06
BluesKaj!bcm4316:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bcm43 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:07
BluesKaj!broadcom16:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:07
BluesKajheh16:07
e-m00yeah BluesKaj, im at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessFirmware16:08
BluesKajno wonder i haven't setup wireless in my house ...usually wires work the first time16:08
e-m00right now im in restricted-manager-kde16:08
MasterShrekBluesKaj, what broadcom card is it?16:08
MasterShrekor e-m0016:08
e-m00trying to enable the firmware for my wireless card, and it's saying the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled16:09
MasterShreke-m00, try sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter, ive heard it installs the firmware, but i didnt do it that way16:09
e-m00its a broadcom 431816:09
e-m00yeah i tried that16:09
e-m00and it says (i think) package not found16:09
MasterShreke-m00, all you really have to do is put the firmware in /lib/firmware16:09
e-m00lemme try again16:09
MasterShrek!info bcm43xx-fwcutter16:10
ubotubcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB16:10
MasterShreke-m00, enable universe?16:10
e-m00mmm yeah i might have some sources commented out16:10
e-m00lemme check16:10
e-m00blaaah whats the gedit equivalent in kde16:11
e-m00i'm so used to gnome16:11
llutze-m00: kate16:11
e-m00thanks16:11
BluesKajalt+F2 , kdesu kate /etcapt/sources.list16:12
BluesKajoops etc/apt/sources.list16:12
e-m00yeah i know16:13
e-m00the problem was16:13
e-m00that i wasnt connected to the internet during install16:13
e-m00so the universe sources didnt verify and they were commented out16:13
BluesKajopk good16:13
BluesKaje-m00, try source-o-matic for a new list16:14
BluesKajerr updated list16:14
BluesKajBBL , chores to do16:15
abcdHello, can i make an .iso image of cd-rom with k3b?16:16
MasterShrekabcd, yes, but its easier to do it from command line16:16
MasterShrekdd if=/dev/hdc of=/path/to/file.iso16:16
e-m00blaaaah16:16
e-m00i really need to get a new router16:17
llutzabcd: or with data-cd "cat /dev/cdrom >image.iso"16:17
abcdMasterShrek: thanks, I'll try this16:17
BluesKajMasterShrek, what's easy about that ?16:17
e-m00this thing's dhcp server is HORRIBLE16:17
MasterShrekBluesKaj, whats hard about that?16:17
BluesKajI like llutz's better :)16:17
MasterShreke-m00, what kinda router is it?16:17
BluesKajK9copy works , as does kiso16:18
e-m00its a netgear16:18
e-m00i hate it16:18
MasterShreke-m00, did u get connected to it or not?16:19
e-m00kinda16:19
MasterShreklol, kinda doesnt count16:19
e-m00wireless is working now, just not getting an ip16:19
MasterShrekhmm16:20
MasterShrekis it encrypted?16:20
e-m00my network? yeah wpa16:20
MasterShrekusing network manager i assume16:20
e-m00i would be stupid not to secure it16:20
MasterShrektru.dat16:21
W8TAH|ClassMasterShrek: i have no critical data on this kubuntu partition - -im just gonna blow it away and re-install -- ive also got windows on a separate partion16:21
W8TAH|Classthat shouldnt cause any problems, right?16:21
MasterShrekW8TAH|Class, it shouldnt16:22
jim88e-m00 I had to do a hard boot to get my ip after changing16:22
W8TAH|ClassMasterShrek: cool -- thanks16:22
e-m00yeah i might just have to restart the router16:23
e-m00that usually does it16:23
e-m00but then of course my server loses connection16:23
e-m00and people get mad at me16:23
e-m00and the calls start coming in WHATS GOING ON OMG16:23
DaSkreech!install16:24
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate16:24
jim88e-m00 tell them you need more money16:24
e-m00yeah if only :P16:25
e-m00hmm16:27
e-m00it seems to have jumped into manual configuration16:27
e-m00and won't go back to automatic16:27
gukk_develis there a german channel for Kubuntu?16:29
llutz!de | gukk_devel16:29
ubotugukk_devel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:29
OceanRainhi, have a question about Kubuntu booting16:29
Gularsanyone know how to get the alt-tab window thingie running? when I alt-tab now, kde just swaps between the different programs, instead of showing the icon-selector thingie16:29
gukk_develmerci16:29
OceanRainis there a way not to see the blue Kubuntu logo with the progress bar16:30
Gularshappened after trying out compiz, and then disabeling it16:30
OceanRainwhen the system boots16:30
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OceanRainbut to see what's going? I mean the console16:30
W8TAH|Classim have several kubuntu machines -- one of which is reformatting itself right now - - on one of my others ( a brand new gusty install) i noticed that with my wireless wheel mouse, when i scroll upwards, it perceives that as a right click as well as a scroll, so it highlights, brings up the right click menu etc -- how to change this?16:32
llutzOceanRain: change boot-options to "nosplash"16:32
OceanRainok, I'll try it, thanks!16:32
llutzOceanRain: its "quiet splash" by default16:33
OceanRainthat's in the grub file?16:33
OceanRainor other file? sorry I'm somewhat new in linux16:33
llutzOceanRain: in menu.list, yes16:33
OceanRainok thanks again16:34
X314Z159okay.. i cant install a package because it says i have a newer version of it. but when i try to install a package dependent on that package it says that i need the old version of that package. so i cant install it. what do i do now?16:34
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BluesKajuninstall the new pkg and try to install the old one16:35
DaSkreechOceanRain: /boot/grub/menu.lst16:36
DaSkreechX314Z159: What package?16:36
OceanRainok16:36
X314Z159DaSkreech: libgtk2.0-016:37
X314Z159BluesKaj: I dont know where the old one is16:37
e-m00ok, im just gonna reboot this #$%$%&%&*$^ router16:37
DaSkreechX314Z159: You are trying to install libgtk ?16:38
X314Z159DaSkreech: precisely16:38
DaSkreechX314Z159: and that relies on something?16:38
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DaSkreechWhat?16:38
X314Z159DaSkreech: well. no, I have installed all the stuff it relies on16:39
DaSkreechSo what's the issue?16:39
X314Z159dpkg: regarding .../libgtk2.0-0_2.12.0-1ubuntu3_i386.deb containing libgtk2.0-0:16:39
X314Z159 libgtk2.0-0 conflicts with gtk-qt-engine (<< 1:0.8~svn-rev36-1)16:39
X314Z159  gtk-qt-engine (version 0.71~svn20070224-0ubuntu3) is installed.16:39
X314Z159dpkg: error processing /home/matt/libgtk2.0-0_2.12.0-1ubuntu3_i386.deb (--install):16:39
X314Z159 conflicting packages - not installing libgtk2.0-016:39
X314Z159Errors were encountered while processing:16:39
X314Z159 /home/matt/libgtk2.0-0_2.12.0-1ubuntu3_i386.deb16:39
X314Z159Press <enter> to exit...16:39
X314Z159DaSkreech: thats the issue16:39
boerjeslif 3d acceleration doesn't work in feisty should I be worried about updating to gutsy? isn't compiz automatically installed in gutsy?16:42
em00ugh16:44
hydrogennot for kubutno16:44
em00whyyyyyyyyyy can i not get an ip!16:44
hydrogenIt would appear you have one..16:44
em00on my laptop16:44
em00not here16:44
boerjesli have an ati card so i'm a little bit worried about upgrading..16:45
venikAm I the only one who finds 7.10 to run MUCH more slowly than 7.04?  I upgraded from 7.04 (did not do a clean install)16:47
spawn57same as 7.04 here16:47
boerjesli wonder how new system venik and spawn are running?16:48
venikI did not understand your question, Boerjest16:49
em00does anyone know how to make knetworkmanager go back to automatic config?16:49
boerjeslvenik: i meant how new your pc is, how much memory etc16:50
rakanwhere can i find the mysql data folder?16:50
frank_hola16:51
venikIt is a Dell Dimension 4550, with 2.5 GHz processor and 1 gb RAM16:51
veniksame system on which I ran 7.0416:51
frank_alguirn me ayuda16:52
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frank_como instalo firefox16:53
venikfomr Add/Remove Programs16:53
frank_ok16:53
carlowhy the "wall" utility is unuseable?16:54
frank_como entro a un canal en español16:55
DaSkreechX314Z159: woah. So you are manually installing a new libgtk ?16:55
DaSkreechem00: YOur mac address is blacklisted?16:55
em00hm?16:55
DaSkreech<em00> whyyyyyyyyyy can i not get an ip!16:55
em00eh16:56
venikfrank-- type /join #ChannelName16:56
DaSkreech!es | frank_16:56
ubotufrank_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.16:56
em00im just gonna reinstall the whole thing16:56
em00its a fresh install anyway16:56
em00im not losing anything16:56
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frank_ok16:56
frank_gracias16:56
venikso I take it that ppl have not reported a significant slowing down from 7.04 to 7.10?16:57
hydrogenno16:57
smorgvenik: I haven't noticed anything... why?16:57
X314Z159DaSkreech: well. no I'm manually installing a old libgtk -.-16:57
venikI have, so I was wondering why 7.10 is slower on my system16:58
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venikespecially in browsers16:58
smorgyes I have noticed that too, but only since installing compiz16:58
W8TAH|Classvenik: mine is faster if anything16:58
venikI did not install any of those fancy things16:59
smorghm16:59
smorgcheck out kde system guard?16:59
venikW8TAH-- did you UPGRADE or installed fresh?16:59
smorgsee if anything is being a hog16:59
supert0nesdoes anyone know why kaffeine brings up shadow windows in compiz that even after closing the program dont go away?16:59
X314Z159DaSkreech: and the issue is that there is a newer version so it wont install the old one.16:59
veniksmorg-- How do I do that?16:59
smorgk menu/system16:59
smorgits a nice front end for ps basically17:00
hydrogenctrl-escape works as well17:00
smorgah thx for the tip hydrogen ^^17:01
venikThanks-- ctrl-escape seems a useful thing17:01
smorgon that note... anyone happen to know why compiz makes firefox so godaweful slow for me?17:02
smorgparticularly just page scrolling17:02
smorgI don't think it has anything to do with the slider widget since nothing else is as bad as firefox17:02
venikwhat process is artsd?  That one seems busy17:03
smorgits a daemon for sound hardware17:04
jpatrickvenik: artsd is the sound server17:04
smorgI had some major issues with it for a long time after installing the opensound driver for my audio interface17:05
venikwhat are the different colors in the System Load display (for physical memory)?17:08
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DaSkreechX314Z159: Why do you want an old one?17:09
supert0nesso no one else gets shadow windows when openning kaffeine in compiz?17:10
venikso-- running only Konversation and the System Guard, uses up 647 mb of RAM...!17:10
smorgwow man17:11
venikI usually also have Opera, Firefox, and Thunderbird open, when I am not using OpenOffice or Latex editing17:11
Chousukevenik: are you sure it's not cache?17:11
smorgi've got vmware running xp going fullscreen on my other desktop and firefox, dolphin, and irc on this one17:11
venikthis system is a memory hog!17:11
smorgand i've only got 512 mb of ram17:11
Chousukevenik: how much RAM do you have?17:11
smorgruns without toooo much swapping17:11
venik1 gb17:11
passdolphin sucks. period.17:12
Chousukevenik: well then that sounds about right.17:12
venikI agree-- it seems very sluggish17:12
passno multi tabbing, crashes.17:12
Chousukevenik: assuming it's cache17:12
smorgPass: I like it better than konq file browser17:12
passsmorg: it crash!17:12
smorgnever for me17:12
passsmorg: and no multi tabbing17:12
Chousukevenik: what does "top" say about memory usage?17:12
venikI actually prefer Krusader-- more like to good old Norton COmmander17:12
DaSkreechvenik: Being a memory hog is a good thing17:12
veniktop?17:12
passsmorg: and it creates those anooying .dol3phin files17:12
Chousukevenik: run top in a terminal17:13
smorgyeah I should really start looking into a better alterntive17:13
Chousukeand paste the lines at the top that have stuff about memory.17:13
passsmorg: :-D17:13
smorgis there anything more remanicint of windows explorer with mulitple tree views that also supports tabs?17:13
smorgthats the one gripe i have with all of the linux graphical filesystem browsers so far is that even if there are multiple tree views, they run independantly17:14
venik106 total running, average load 0.16 (with only two apps running17:14
Chousukevenik: memory usage, not process statistics :P17:14
smorgnot like explorer where theres one for folders and one for files within folders17:14
Chousukevenik: anyway, as long as your machine isn't swapping, you can just ignore the fact that apps use memory at all.17:14
DaSkreechsmorg: Konqui?17:14
Chousukevenik: it simply doesn't matter :)17:15
smorgpossibly17:15
passsmorg: you can run indipendent process for folder browsing with windows explorer as well17:15
venik650mb used-- same as the GUI program said17:15
Chousukevenik: paste the whole line17:15
Chousukevenik: what I'm suggesting here is that most of that 650MB is cache.17:16
Chousukevenik: which you want it to be.17:16
ChousukeI mean, if you have 1GB of RAM, and only 512MB is used, what is the other half, if not useless?17:17
passlinux uses 100% ram all the time, apps, cache and buffered ram.17:17
Chousukepass: well, close to 100% anyway17:17
Chousukeusing 100% all the time would be ideal, but pretty difficult to achieve /:17:17
passok 99% if u insist.17:18
venikThe konsole won't let me copy and paste the line, but it says that 650 mb is used, 379 are available17:18
Chousukevenik: what does it say about cache?17:18
Chousukevenik: also, copying the line is just painting it with the mouse17:19
Chousukevenik: middle-click pastes :)17:19
DaSkreechX314Z159: Still there?17:19
Chousukevenik: anyway, as long as you have some free RAM and you're not swapping, there's not problem.17:20
Chousuke-t17:20
DaSkreechvenik: if you open like 5 more apps17:20
DaSkreech It will probably use thesame amount17:20
venikwhen they learn to program, this could work.  Anyway, swap: 3028212k total; 35488 used17:20
passvenik: open konsole and type: free17:21
passcopy and paste the line here17:21
venikno-- when I had TB, Opera and Firefox open, it was using 850mb17:21
Chousukevenik: that sounds fine. you have a lot of swap though :P17:21
ftacolombiahola pietro17:21
kamuiI just started working with permissions...is there a way to make files inherit the group and permissions of its parent folder by default?17:21
Chousukevenik: still okay, as long as it's not swapping actively :)17:21
Chousukeand you will notice when it starts swapping17:22
venik             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached17:22
venikMem:       1035144     655684     379460          0      25748     43142017:22
venik-/+ buffers/cache:     198516     83662817:22
venikSwap:      3028212      35488    299272417:22
Chousukeso yeah17:22
venikyes, I understand the concept of swapping when RAM is exhausted17:22
JuJuBeeI jsut installed a smartboard in my classroom.  How do I make the SMARTBoardService startup when I boot the computer?  I have to start it manually now...17:23
Chousukehmm, I'm not so sure I understand free's output properly17:23
passwhat is there to understand?17:23
Chousukewell, the -/+ buffers/cache part17:23
passUSED ram - cached ram - buffers ram = ram being used by applications17:24
DaSkreechkamui: yes17:24
DaSkreech!permissions17:24
Chousukedoes it mean his "real" RAM usage is about 200MB? :)17:24
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux17:24
Chousukedoesn't sound too bad :P17:24
pass <venik> -/+ buffers/cache:     198516     836628     this means:17:24
pass198516 ram is used by apps17:24
Chousukeheh17:24
pass836628 ram free17:24
passd'accord?17:25
Chousukeokay17:25
Chousukeso no problem :P17:25
venikthe only two things I am running is Konversation (so I could type to you'all) and The SystemGuard17:25
passyep, no problem at all.17:25
venikI am glad you are happy-- so why is it slower than 7.04?17:25
Chousukevenik: you're also running a ~100 other processes17:25
passvenik, it's ok. you got 836628 ram free and only 198516 is being used by applications17:25
smorghow do you change the default program that the kde shell runs programs in17:25
venikcorrection: LINUX is running those17:25
Chousukewell you're running KDE too17:26
venik;-(17:26
Chousukethat makes up about ~20 processes17:26
Chousukeof not mre.17:26
Chousukeif not more'17:26
smorgaah nvm17:26
smorg'remember application type'17:26
Chousukevenik: anyway, slowness may be just because of slow app code.17:26
venikok, guys.  THanks for the help.  I was just wondering whether I was alone in this, or others have noticed a slowing down upun Upgrading17:27
Chousukevenik: but it's definitely not because you're running out of RAM :)17:27
venikmaybe the new versions of Opera and Firefox are slower17:27
venikthat is always a possibility17:27
passactually since i gone to 7.10 it is much faster for me17:27
lg188hy wat is a game channel ?17:27
blendtuxhow can i remove, the module for the soundcard17:27
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passprobemod -r XXX17:28
dfaurehe means modprobe :)17:28
passoh oops17:28
passye17:28
passmodprobe -r XXX17:29
blendtuxyes but its saying that the module is in use, how can i see wich proces are using a certain module17:29
passbut it will only remove it NOW, not in startup17:29
blendtuxi know i have to play with the index, to get my cards loaded in the way i want17:29
passlsmod to see what other modules use it17:29
blendtuxwhat i dont understand is that linux is still not good with multiple sound devices17:30
blendtuxfor example when i plugin my usb headset, you would expect that you get the sound in your headset but no, you have to configure config files by hand, remove modules and load the modules for the headset again :(17:31
blendtuxsomething so trivial, its like if the developers at cananocal dont use headsets17:31
hdevalencehow do i set an ext3 partition in the fstab so it will be  writable by my normal user17:38
nocivokde ? gnome?17:39
nocivohi17:39
llutzhdevalence: use chown/chmod to do so17:39
nocivoi can ubuntu.17:39
nocivofor install kde in ubuntu is? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop17:39
hdevalencellutz: won't I have to do that every time I boot though?17:40
llutzhdevalence: it's not job of fstab because ext3 is a linux-filesystem with rights-management17:40
llutzhdevalence: no, why should you?17:40
llutzhdevalence: mount it and set desired permissions then17:40
hdevalencellutz so if I mount it in /home/harry/vm and that dir is owned by me, when it mounts, i will have write access?17:41
llutzhdevalence: no17:42
hdevalenceso I need to chmod after I mount it?17:42
llutzhdevalence: example: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /home/harry/vm  && sudo chown -R harry:harry /home/harry/vm17:43
llutzhdevalence: makes you owner of that dir (mounted partition)17:44
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llutzhdevalence: but be carefull, it changes ownership of all existant files. maybe not what you want17:44
DaSkreechblendtux: lsmod17:45
hdevalencellutz: it's ok, it's a new partition17:45
blendtuxi have it already17:45
DaSkreechnocivo: yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop17:45
blendtuxi needed to know wich process are using my sound module17:45
blendtuxwich i can find out with lsof /dev/snd/*17:46
blendtuxnd then i can remove the module17:46
mneisenHi, i use bzr and bzrtools on Kubuntu. My problem: bzr is always released well before bzrtools, so apt wants to upgrade bzr and remove bzrtools. Is there any way to solve this?17:46
cedurwell, hello17:47
e-m00hi cedur17:48
cedure-m00...17:48
cedurwell17:48
ceduris that supposed to remind of emo, or something? (just asking)17:48
e-m00no :P17:49
e-m00everyone asks me that]17:49
nocivoDaskreech thanks17:49
rgreeningIt's cow-mail17:49
rgreeninge-mooo17:49
cedurwell17:49
resaksehi...anyone know how to make dolphin display 3gp as thumbnail like nautilus?17:49
cedurquite orginal nick : d17:49
e-m00#$%$^&*%*$^ LAPTOP17:49
e-m00BAH17:49
e-m00the stupid power connector on the inside is snapped17:50
rgreeningAnyone here fluent with NetworkManager/Knetworkmanager?17:50
e-m00so it doesnt always make contact with the mobo17:50
e-m00and it randomly loses connection17:50
e-m00and battery stops charging >.<17:50
ceduromigod, im sooooo newbie17:51
andyho623hey everyone!!can someone help me out with a quick external usb issue?!I have it mounted but it keeps telling me Idon't have access rights17:51
cedurthat i don't understand what are most of you talking17:51
e-m00haha cedur17:51
cedurwell17:51
rgreeningandyho623: whats the device17:51
e-m00rgreening what about networkmanager17:51
DaSkreechcedur: Hang out here after like 2 weeks things all make sense17:51
rgreeningandyho623: and can you provide output of lsusb17:51
cedurlol17:51
DaSkreechcedur: You will even be helping people who say they are newbs :)17:52
slow-motionbbl17:52
DaSkreechandyho623: How did you mount it?17:52
andyho623it's a maxtor usb hdd.. it's /dev/sdb117:52
cedurwho have 7.10 now?17:52
* e-m00 is running 7.1017:52
resaksewell...i guess dolphine cant display 3GP files as a thumbnail then17:52
* resakse 7.1017:52
andyho623mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive17:52
rgreeninge-m00: was having an issue with wifes laptop not seeing any networks via wireless, even though they are broadcasted/announced17:52
nosrednaekimandyho623: you only mounted it with root permissions,that means you must read it as root17:53
e-m00rgreening what wireless card do you have (i just fixed a very similar issue myself)17:53
nosrednaekimrgreening: what does "iwlist <network device name> scan" say?17:53
rgreeninge-m00: It's an IPN 2220 with ndisdriver17:53
andyho623how do Iread it as root?17:53
rgreeningunfortunately17:53
cedursoon I'll get the 7.10 and then ill rule the world!17:53
X314Z159DaSkreech: ah. im here to and from. i want the old one so i can install mjpegtools 1.8 ^^17:54
e-m00mmm17:54
e-m00using ndiswrapper then?17:54
rgreeninge-m00: yeah... exactly. I've tried every trick I can remember.17:54
andyho623ohh geez.. duh.. I'm assuming Ijust need to cd the dir... right?17:54
DaSkreechX314Z159: Just apt-get it17:55
rgreeninge-m00: I've ben playing with NetworkManager/Knetworkmanager under Gentoo for a while and just recently did an install of Kubuntu for my wife...17:55
DaSkreechandyho623: IT's a ntfs drive ?17:55
rgreeninge-m00: on my laptop, I have the Intel 3945.. works flawless under Gentoo and Kubuntu17:55
nosrednaekimandyho623: run "kdesudo dolphin"17:55
DaSkreechcedur: Till 8.10 comes out17:55
andyho623yes.. and I already installed ntfs-3g17:55
ceduryer, tr0017:55
andyho623ok nos..17:56
cedurwell17:56
gilles_I couldn't have the 3d with my nvidia 7600 gs and today I do an update of nvidia-glx-new and other 2 package but I have errors : /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9755 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start.17:56
e-m00rgreening im assuming you followed the ndiswrapper guide verbatim17:56
gilles_I don't understand what it is ?17:56
e-m00rgreening do iwconfig and whatever interface the wireless is do iwlist <interface> scan17:57
e-m00and see if it comes up with anything17:57
rgreeninge-m00: yep. I've used it in the past prior to Knetworkmanager. I can even connect if I do everything either Manual or simply tell it the ESSID. It just doesn't see the broadcaseted ESSID's,not do any auto connect...17:57
nosrednaekimrgreening: does iwlist scan show anything?17:58
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rgreeningnosrednaekim: yes. It works... just doesn't show the ESSID's in list17:58
rgreeningweird17:58
e-m00that is weird17:58
andyho623ok.. even with dolphin it's not letting me in the drive17:59
rgreeningI've been playing with it for a while. I don't want to use wicd, bit I may have to17:59
nosrednaekimrgreening: whats it say..."hidden"?17:59
rgreeningnosrednaekim : no. they are all broadcast visible17:59
rgreeningnosrednaekim  : I have my laptop on same network and it works and sees about 10 different AP's17:59
rgreeningAnd Im running same Kubuntu 7.1018:00
rgreening:)18:00
mneisenHi, i use bzr and bzrtools on Kubuntu. My problem: bzr is always released well before bzrtools, so apt wants to upgrade bzr and remove bzrtools. Is there any way to solve this?18:00
andyho623I still get Unable to enter file://media/sdf1. You do not have access rights to this location.18:00
nosrednaekimandyho623: go into system settings->advanced->disks and partitions and set a mount point/do it right, from there18:00
andyho623yes I already set the mount point from there and enabled it18:01
nosrednaekimandyho623: did you set ti to be able to be mounted and acecssed by all users?18:02
eagles0513875is anyone having issues in gutsy 64bit18:03
eagles0513875with amarok18:03
eagles0513875not amarok azureus18:03
nosrednaekimeagles0513875: nope18:03
nosrednaekimeagles0513875: that would be java, correct?18:03
eagles0513875azureus is a java bit torrent client18:03
andyho623nos:yes I set the mount permission as any user may enable/disable18:04
eagles0513875for me azureus starts then shuts down18:04
eagles0513875what other bit torrent clients r the for kubuntu18:04
Cthuloidktorrent, eagles051287518:05
eagles0513875Cthuloid: anything else besides ktorrent18:05
Cthuloidrtorrent, if you want to go console based18:06
eagles0513875Cthuloid: thats gotta be quite interesting to use lol18:06
GreenykTorrent is like Azureus w/o java18:06
CthuloidI use it via Screen from work quite often18:07
scirerhello18:07
scirerwhich is root password in live cd?18:07
ceduryes! im back!18:07
eagles0513875where can i get the azureus source code from18:07
nosrednaekim!tab | andyho62318:07
ubotuandyho623: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:07
cedurif wine in 7.10 will not worc good i will be back to windows >:((18:08
nosrednaekimscirer: is none...use sudo18:08
eagles0513875cuz since im learning java might as well put what ive been learning in my java class to good use and debug it18:08
scirertnx18:08
Cthuloidcedur: what are you trying to run?18:08
cedurEVERYTHING18:09
eagles0513875where do i get frostwire from18:09
nosrednaekimandyho623: try rebooting....sometimes fstab needs a restart18:09
LjL!frostwire18:09
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire18:09
cedureven wingows (TM)(*R)(C) saper is not working on my wine18:09
cedurand it make it suck18:09
hdevalence!info frostwire18:10
ubotuPackage frostwire does not exist in gutsy18:10
andyho623nosrednaekim: yeah I tried going that route too figuring maybe if Ihad it just boot up with the machine that it would work :/18:10
cedurwell18:10
nosrednaekimandyho623: ah... ok.18:10
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nosrednaekimnow why did you mount it using that command if you could simply enable it in disks and partitions?18:11
cedurcan someone tell me how to run wirtual machine on  ubuntu or kubuntu?18:11
eagles0513875do i have to use alien to convert the .deb pkg then install it18:11
nosrednaekim!virtualbox18:11
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox18:11
ceduryay, thx18:11
Captain_HaddockAnyone familiar with Ksysguard? I can't seem to find the section for temperature monitors? It apparently should be under ACPI, but there is no such section.18:11
andyho623nos because that's what I was able to find and usually I like trying to figure out the terminal commands :)18:11
nosrednaekimandyho623: but that just ignores the fstab..18:12
andyho623even if you change the fstab in terminal??18:12
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: do you have /proc/acpi ?18:12
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: yes18:13
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MagicCowI've used Madwifi with no problem in standard Ubuntu, when I decided to install Kubuntu though, I just can't seem to get it to work.  I get all the drivers installed, but when it's time to bring up my wireless connection, I get this:18:13
MagicCowdesktop:~/Downloads/madwifi-0.9.3.3$ sudo ifconfig ath0 up18:13
MagicCowath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device18:13
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: I see a thermal_zone directory under it.18:14
nosrednaekimandyho623: correct18:14
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: processor, thermal..., fan, battery, button etc.18:14
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: you may need to enable some sensors18:14
nosrednaekim!sensors18:14
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto18:14
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: in ksysguard, there should be an lmsensors 'directory'18:15
nosrednaekimMagicCow: did you modprobe it?18:15
daveis it possible to install realplayer on kubuntu gutsy?18:15
MagicCowYes, I did.18:15
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: I tried installing ksensors earlier which apparently installs the lm-sensor library. But there were no temperature options there either.18:15
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: try what nosrednaekim said18:16
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: don't know otherwise sorry18:16
LjL!real | dave18:16
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: I'm reading up, thanks.18:17
ubotudave: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:17
eagles0513875!kde418:17
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php18:17
davelji, thanks18:17
nosrednaekimMagicCow: does the defualt madwifi driver not work? I noticed it seems you compiled it yourself18:17
MagicCowWell, I had heard that it should work out of the package, but it did not seem to.18:17
MagicCowSo yes, I compiled it.18:18
soulrider!compiz18:18
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:18
MagicCowAnd I've compiled it before in Ubuntu, never seemed to have a problem. I did have to install a few packages in Kubuntu that I didn't in ubuntu.18:18
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blendtuxyeah it seems that kubuntu is a second rated ubuntu, we are behind several months18:19
JohnFluxblendtux: i agree, but not in this case18:19
supert0neswe are waiting for kde418:19
JohnFluxright18:19
JohnFluxblendtux: kde4 will have its own comp manager.  just means being patient for year though :(18:20
JohnFluxwell, 6 months18:20
MagicCowI thought that gnome was pretty slow.18:20
daveljl, yeah it works fine in ubuntu but when i try to install it on kubuntu gutsy it complains about a file that cannot be found in adept?18:20
MagicCowKDE seems a lot faster.18:20
nosrednaekimMagicCow: disable the default restricted driver in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules18:20
MagicCowk18:20
nosrednaekimdave: which one.18:21
davemosrednaekim, justa sec18:21
rgreeningcompiz works fine here.18:22
rgreeningAfter installing it, I ran compiz --replace &18:22
rgreeningin a run command to verify18:22
rgreeningPicked up my kde wondow decorations fine18:22
davenosrednaekim, the libstdc++.so.518:23
nosrednaekimdave: search for libstdc in adept18:24
daveok18:24
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux, nosrednaekim: The first comment on that page provided a nice and simple solution - thanks!18:24
nosrednaekimCaptain_Haddock: NP18:25
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: what was the solution? :-D18:25
JohnFluxbah I don't even know these things18:25
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: the embarrassing part is i'm the ksysguard guy ;-)18:25
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: installing lm-sensors and just running sudo sensor-detect and answering yes to everything :)18:25
JohnFluxHmm18:26
JohnFluxI should try to add that in somehow :)18:26
Captain_HaddockThen I did a sudo modprobe <newly detected stuff> to enable them18:26
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: don't suppose you want to go to bugs.kde.org  and file a bug report at it and how you fixed it :)18:26
BluesKajlatest rumour about KDE4 is the official release date no longer being speculated by the devs ...speculation about a dateis being discouraged due to the many probs early adopters and testers are encountering.18:27
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: I think I even have an account there - sure :) (and thanks for the app - it's pretty nifty :)18:27
davenosrednaekim,thanks18:27
nosrednaekimdave: found it?18:28
JohnFluxBluesKaj: I was never cc'ed to that email thread obviously :-D18:28
davenosrednaekim, yeah, i have version 6 installed but its looking for 518:28
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: you're speculating ;)18:28
nosrednaekimdave: probably close enough... symbolic lik the two18:29
nosrednaekim*link18:29
Greenycould anyone suggest a good desktop widget app18:29
JohnFluxI can see that they might try to be a month late or whatever18:29
Greenyfor kde obviously18:29
e-m00hmmm18:29
JohnFluxbut it's important to get a release, to get people porting to it18:29
nosrednaekimGreeny: super karamba18:29
davenosrednaekim,how do i di that?18:29
nosrednaekimdave: just a sec..18:29
e-m00on boot: "configuration file /home/matt/.kde/share/config/restricted-manager-kderc not writable"18:30
GreenyI was just looking at that nosrednaekim, thanks ;)18:30
e-m00whats this mean?18:30
ceduryawn, im back!18:30
davenosrednaekim,ok18:30
nosrednaekime-m00: you are starting the RM without root permissions when last time you started it WITH root permissions... its not dangerous18:31
e-m00hmm18:31
e-m00im assuming its why my wireless went kablooey18:31
kennydoes someone know a counter strike channel?????18:31
nosrednaekimdave: umm never mind, install version 5, its in the repositories18:32
e-m00time to install fresh again! (this is only 5 minutes after the last fresh install, so no panic doing so) :P18:32
nosrednaekime-m00: nope... that should affect that18:32
kennydoes someone know a counter strike channel?????18:32
davenosrednaekim, ok, do i need the development files also?18:32
e-m00oh well18:32
nosrednaekimdave: for realplayer? no18:34
davenosrednaekim, ok thanks for the help18:34
BluesKajnosrednaekim,, yes , but it's called informed speculation . I t's aconclusion I've come to after reading interviews and blogs with developers ...They're very non-commital about a release date :)18:34
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: :D18:35
andyho623nos you still around? What do I need to alter in my fstab to get this to work?18:37
nosrednaekimandyho623: nothing... you should be able to just plug it in if you have it set up correctly in disks and filesystems(which modifies the fstab)18:38
tonynlisaWhat are the package names i need to apt-get to try the KDE4 Beta?18:39
nosrednaekim!kde4 | tonynlisa18:39
ubotutonynlisa: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php18:39
andyho623nosrednaekim: so just restart basically? LOL18:39
nosrednaekimandyho623: well, to get rid of any changes that aren't actually in the fstab, yes, thats the easiest way.18:40
tonynlisaRad. TY18:40
andyho623ok... brb! :)18:40
davenosrednaekim, it keeps asking me for my gutsy cd and  i put it in and it asks for it again18:41
nosrednaekimandyho623: leave the usb drive plugged in18:41
nosrednaekimdave: get rid of the CD from your respoitories18:41
davenosrednaekim,ohhhh,ok18:41
nosrednaekimdave: you know how to do that?18:42
daveyes18:42
ishumarucan someone explain what this is for?18:42
MagicCowI know this is opening a can of worms, but I am new to linux and doing the "Newbie Tour" so far I've only tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu, what are some of the other recommended distros? I was curious about Mandriva, OpenSUSE, and PClinux.18:42
eagles0513875anyone that work for canonical in here18:42
MagicCowProbably settle on something with KDE though.18:43
eagles0513875MagicCow: alot of the others are rather resource intensive18:43
jpatrickeagles0513875: why?18:43
mike-kubuntuhey guys, i just put in a new nvidia video card18:43
MagicCowThat's definately something I want to stay away from.18:43
DaSkreechX314Z159: Passing through18:43
DaSkreechX314Z159: did you apt-get it?18:43
MagicCowWould you say Ubuntu is the best balance between pretty and quick?18:43
eagles0513875jpatrick: j/w cuz i read in a linux magazine that canonical is looking to create a mobile platform and i think i just found something that might rocket them forward on that development front18:43
eagles0513875jpatrick: its also something open source18:43
mike-kubuntuand lspci makes it out to be a vga compatable controller: nvidia Coorperation GeForce 8600 gts (rev a1)18:43
blendtuxMagicCow: it does not matter what distro you use, as long as you use kde as your desktop :)18:44
mike-kubuntuand i no longer have glx on display 0:018:44
nosrednaekimMagicCow: PClinux OS is nice and polished, not aas many apps tho.18:44
webvictimmike-kubuntu: using the right driver?18:44
MagicCowAye, I would tend to agree :P18:44
Ace2016MagicCow: try debian, its ubuntu but you never have to reinstall, but you will notice the difference between kubuntu's kde and debian's unmodified stock kde, the thing i miss most is the ctrl+alt+delete in kubuntu18:44
eagles0513875MagicCow: kubuntu is the least resource intensive that ive found18:44
jpatricknosrednaekim: that's cos they don't have me :)18:44
mike-kubuntuit shoudl be using nvidia's binary drivers, its what my last card was on and i just rebooted18:44
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: you need nvidia-glx-new18:44
mike-kubuntudo i need to run a dpkg-reconfigure on them?18:44
davenosrednaekim, should i delete them or just uncheck them?18:44
nosrednaekimjpatrick: haha18:44
nosrednaekimdave: uncheck will work18:44
mike-kubuntunosradnaekim: they just added support?18:45
davenosrednaekim, ok thnaks again18:45
dave*thanks18:45
DaSkreechMagicCow: Maci si the best balance between Pretty and quick18:45
MagicCowYeah, Kubuntu is nice.. I have had a little trouble getting some things to work properly, so I feel a slight bit of annoyance.18:45
MagicCowHmm, never heard of that one.18:45
TheGateKeeperMagicCow: cut your teeth on (k)ubuntu then try installing Arch & maybe even gentoo18:45
MagicCowokay, I'll give it a go.18:46
mike-kubuntuok, gonna try a restart18:46
mike-kubuntubrb18:46
TheGateKeeperMagicCow: really depends what you want from your distro18:46
nosrednaekimMagicCow: if you mean you had problems with your wireless, then that is VERY normal18:47
MagicCowSomething that isn't a bare bones distro, but isn't a resource hog, and one that caters to the beginner. I liked ubuntu, but I found Gnome to be too slow, and Kubuntu seems great.. minus some of the problems.18:47
MagicCownosrednaekim: Aye, that is what I mean. The restricted drivers thing.. couldn't figure that out.18:48
MagicCowI'm googling for a solution as we speak.18:48
nosrednaekimMagicCow: I just use ndiswrapper to make things easy18:48
nosrednaekimMagicCow: although my atheros is now supported18:48
MagicCowI tried that route, it didn't work, don't remember why.18:48
MagicCowAh, yes, mine wasn't.18:49
rfranciscohi18:49
mike-kubuntuinstalled nvidia-glx-new and its still not detected, is there a way i can check to make sure it's not still loading the old drivers?18:50
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: how did you load them?18:50
mike-kubuntunosrednaekim: apt-get install nvidia-glx-new & reboot18:50
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: ah :) use the restricted-manager18:50
nosrednaekimMagicCow: ussually ndiswrapper works well... what atheros chipset do you have?18:52
mike-kubuntuaw, i think i messed up entering the kdesu password and now it wont let me into administrator mode, brb, gonna try a relogin18:52
MagicCowIll find out18:53
MagicCowAR541618:54
nosrednaekimMagicCow: never heard of it... is it a laptop?18:54
MagicCowNo. PCI card.18:55
MagicCowOn desktop18:55
llutznewst atheros chipsets, unsupported by madwifi, i guess18:55
nosrednaekimMagicCow: probably too new yeah18:56
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: still here?18:56
MagicCowI've had it working with madwifi in ubuntu18:56
nosrednaekimMagicCow: did you say you got it working before?18:56
MagicCowYes.18:56
MagicCowFor some reason Kubuntu doesn't see ath0.18:56
MagicCowWhere ubuntu had no problem.18:56
nosrednaekimMagicCow: you should installubuntu then, and "apt-get install kubuntu"18:57
nosrednaekim"kubuntu-desktop"18:57
MagicCowI had done that, is there a way to get rid of all of the gnome programs then? It was too crowded, so I did a full install of kubuntu.18:57
Angelusis it normal that kubuntu needs a reboot after using windows games and wine doesn't work anymore?18:58
donsdwAfter sfdisk -l, I get "Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundry".  Is this normal?18:58
llutzAngelus: doesn't wineboot work?18:59
nosrednaekimMagicCow: so it worked in kde then?18:59
MagicCowYes sir.18:59
Angelusno man18:59
Angelusi do winecfg18:59
Angelusnothing comes u19:00
Angelus*up19:00
Angelusi need to reboot the godamn computer for wine to work proparly again19:00
JucatoMagicCow: try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde19:00
llutzAngelus: winecfg? you should use wineboot19:00
nosrednaekimMagicCow: hmmm are you sure it was working int he default install? did you try the command line?19:00
MagicCowIn the default install of Ubuntu? I had to install the madwifi drivers, but it worked.19:00
DaSkreech!purekde | MagicCow19:01
ubotuMagicCow: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:01
MagicCowHey, thanks.19:01
MagicCowThat's perfect.19:01
mike-kubuntucool, that worked, but for some reason i cant get into administrator mode, i had to use sudo restricted-manager-kde19:01
mike-kubuntuand i think i have to redo my usplash, anyone know the command for that?19:01
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: ah.. that probalem.. ok19:01
MagicCowWish I knew that yesterday :D19:01
mike-kubuntu1280 x 1024 is a valid screen resolution for a standard monitor, correct?19:04
crazy6okey dokey, so I used the Restriced Modules manager to turn off fglrx (thought it was breaking hibernation), but now what to do about restoring xorg.conf? I didn't explicitely make a backup;19:04
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: if it supports that... yes19:04
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: any modern LCD over 15 inches should work w/ that19:05
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: here now - wassup?19:05
nosrednaekimcrazy6: its crashing?19:05
crazy6nosrednaekim: doesn't start, saying fglrx isn't loaded... so I clearly still have the old config19:06
crazy6nosrednaekim: I didn't o a backup by hand; is there any way to re-run the auto-config that is done at install? or should I just reinstall now and save time?19:06
nosrednaekimcrazy6: yeah.. it redoes the config when you uninstall it, it should be ok19:07
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: Not sure if this should be a separate bug report or if it has been resolved in a subsequent release (this is 1.2.0) - but once I ran modprobe and restarted Ksysguard, I could access the new sensors. But dragging them to the Panel applet resulted in a blank display (with the lightning icon).19:07
crazy6nosrednaekim: oh I meant reinstall all of ubuntu; which package is it?19:07
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: I had to re-add the applet for it to take effect (or I suspect, restart KDE).19:07
perrakoHow do I get my media keys working? I've set up an Xmodmap to the normal XF86 stuff, but mute still doesn't work19:08
nosrednaekimcrazy6: wait what? you want to reinstall fglrx?19:08
perrakofor volume up and down, I also don't get an OSD. The global shortcuts are set up right in kmix, too.19:08
nosrednaekim!hotkeys19:08
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts19:08
JohnFluxCaptain_Haddock: hmm yes.  file a bug report for that too :)19:08
crazy6nosrednaekim: nah,I want to get rid of it; you said I should uninstall the package, and I can't remember what name it was...19:08
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: okie dokie :)19:08
nosrednaekimcrazy6: oh.... you are using it right now?19:09
louis_hallo frank19:09
crazy6nosrednaekim: nah, disabled, managed to get X to start but it's in super low res19:09
crazy6and kdm won't start for some reason19:09
nosrednaekimcrazy6: ah! run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the driver called "ati"19:09
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crazy6nosrednaekim: aha, that seemed to take care of it19:12
crazy6thanks19:12
crazy6now I'm back to my awesome crazy-high resolution19:13
nosrednaekim:)19:14
vershow do i change my system password?19:14
BluesKajcrazy6, try admin mode and configure your graphics card , then your res options be greater19:14
vzduchvers: either 'system-config-users' in gksu/kdesu, or log in as the user whose pwd you wish to change, type 'passwd' in a terminal and follow the instructions19:16
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vzduchah, wrong channel.. but 'passwd' should do19:16
BluesKajcrazy6, I'm running 115x864 which is fine for 17" Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 73 altho it's just seen as a custom device in system hardware19:16
BluesKaj1152 x 86419:16
crazy6this is runing at 1920xsomething19:18
BluesKajcrazy6, what available resolutions does the system settings/monitor&display show ?19:20
crazy61920x1200, 1280x800, 1280x768, and lower19:23
perrakoIs there a way to just test KDE4? Like, put it on a separate session?19:24
Captain_Haddockperrako: I think there's a Live CD for the beta.19:25
nosrednaekimperrako: yes, thats how it works... or you could get the suse liveCD19:25
perrakok, thanks :)19:25
perrakoI just wanted to try kde 4 beta without replacing my current kde19:25
e-m00woooooooot19:25
* e-m00 just got wifi working19:25
e-m00WITH wpa19:26
e-m00:D19:26
BluesKajcrazy6, your aspect ratio is obviously 16x9...choose one that you like19:26
MagicCowPunk.19:26
MagicCowMadwifi?19:26
nosrednaekimw00t!19:26
e-m00not with madwifi19:26
e-m00just using knetworkmanager19:26
MagicCowAh.19:26
e-m00and the windows driver19:26
e-m00for the wireless card19:26
MagicCowHmm...19:26
e-m00quite easy actually19:27
nosrednaekime-m00: yeah. I like ndiswrapper... hack that it is19:27
MagicCowMaybe I should try that.19:27
MagicCowOh.19:27
rgreeninge-m00: do you see a list of AP's or did you have to click jion other netwoek/connection19:27
mataharihi19:27
SudoKinge-m00..Windows driver on Kubuntu?19:27
e-m00yes sudoking. just the .sys file19:28
nosrednaekimhi matahari19:28
SudoKinguh-huh19:28
* nosrednaekim had to use the .inf file not the .sys file19:29
mataharii am having sound troubles in gutsy on my laoptop running a Conexant CX20549 chip. Sound worked for a week now - and suddenly it stopped. i compiled a new alsa-driver, but the issue is still the same - no sound...19:29
mataharidoes anyone have an idea what i could check?19:29
e-m00yeah ndiswrapper uses the inf19:29
Captain_HaddockJohnFlux: 2 reports added. If you have time, can I run a few other issues by you right here before creating bug reports?19:29
nosrednaekimmatahari: any recent kernel updates?19:29
mataharinosrednaekim: i don't know...19:29
mataharinosrednaekim: i did the update that were provided automatically19:29
nosrednaekimmatahari: did you do that recently?19:30
mataharinosrednaekim: i didn't check them (i know - stupid)19:30
mataharinosrednaekim: yes19:30
nosrednaekimno... thats ok :)19:30
nosrednaekimmatahari: when you reboot, you should see a list of kernels in the grub menu19:30
matahariyes19:30
mataharinosrednaekim: but there is only the one kernel i have plus the recovery mode19:31
crazy6when I start up, all the pdf's I had open w/ kpdf no longer work, and each produce an error message; I assume this is because /tmp or wherever they are put is cleared out... is there a way to prevent that?19:32
nosrednaekimmatahari: oh... ok19:33
mataharinosrednaekim: can i install a new kernel?19:35
nosrednaekimdon't think that is the problem..19:35
davehow do i get the auto spell checking started in konversation?19:35
Jucatodave: right-click on the text input area19:35
mataharinosrednaekim: what else could it be?19:35
BluesKajcrazy6, that's cuz you edited the xorg file while you had pdf's open , close them andjust relogin19:35
davejucato, i did but the spell checking above it is greyed out19:35
nosrednaekimmatahari: is this a fresh install or an upgrade?19:35
poison--!partition19:35
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter19:35
poison--!DiskMounter19:36
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE19:36
Captain_Haddockdave: you have to type something first.19:36
BluesKajchanging resolution edits the xorg file19:36
Q-collectiveis QtParted being maintained again?19:36
mataharinosrednaekim: frsh install19:36
crazy6BluesKaj: oh, no, this has been happening for a long time, since 7.0419:36
davecaptain haddock, ahh i see thanks19:36
mataharinosrednaekim: the strange thing is, that it worked until the day before yesterday19:36
crazy6BluesKaj: if I hav ea bunch of PDF's open from firefox from the web; come to think of it, I haven't checked ot see if it does it if I have them all open in Konq...19:37
nosrednaekimmatahari: did you do anything special that day? any updates?19:37
mataharihmm19:37
BluesKajcrazy6, that's odd , which app opens the pdfs , konq or adobe ?19:37
mataharinosrednaekim: i don't remember19:37
mataharinosrednaekim: i installed some software - but i don#t remember which one...19:37
vzduchQ-collective: last time I tried to install Ark Linux it was still 0.4.5-svn19:38
crazy6BluesKaj: mozilla spawns a new window of kpdf for each PDF19:38
mataharinosrednaekim: is there a logfile where i can see such things?19:38
crazy6BluesKaj: and when I restart, it gives me "can't find tmp://whatever.pdf"  Ithink (or something close to that)19:38
nosrednaekimmatahari: probably...IDK whats its called. probably in /var/log though19:38
Q-collectivevzduch: yeah, it has been there for the last few years19:39
mataharinosrednaekim: i remember that day now19:40
mataharinosrednaekim: i wanted to get qemu running19:40
matahariand i used qemu launcher19:40
nosrednaekimhaving to dive into text files can make anyone remember..lol19:40
matahariand there was an option "emulate sound card"19:40
mataharinosrednaekim: i checked that option - and i think after that there was no sound anymore19:40
BluesKajyeah crazy6 , I haven't seen that since use konq as my default browser ..pdf's don't pose any probs using konq in my experience19:40
nosrednaekimmatahari: ahhhhhh :)\19:41
mataharinosrednaekim: ?19:41
nosrednaekimmatahari: go into system settings-> sound and multimedia19:41
webvictim!compiz19:42
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:42
mataharinosrednaekim: ok19:42
nosrednaekimmatahari: hardware->soundsystem->advanced Linux sound architecture19:42
frustratedHi! When I select manual configuration for my wireless card, I'm unable to make Knetworkmanager do a site survey again. Tips?19:42
mataharinosrednaekim: this is already selected19:42
frustrated7.1019:43
DaSkreechHi BluesKaj19:43
nosrednaekimmatahari: ok....change something small and then change it back, then hit apply19:43
BluesKajhi DaSkreech , what's up today ?19:44
slow-motionre19:44
DaSkreechnot the clouds19:44
DaSkreech they are falling like noone's business19:44
BluesKaj:)19:44
frustratedWhenever I do manual configuration of my wireless interface, I'm forever unable to do a site survey and connect to a wireless network. I'm having a Centrino laptop with IPW 3945. Can someone please give me a tip on how to fix this, because previously only option has been reinstallation19:44
dave compiz takes a serious graphics card,huh?19:44
mataharinosrednaekim: no change :-( still can't hear music...19:44
nosrednaekimmatahari: but the sound system restarted fine?19:45
ardchoilleI have an svn url for some new icons, how do I use this url? Put it in konqueror?19:45
mataharinosrednaekim: yes seems so19:45
nosrednaekimfrustrated: remove the lines from your /etc/network/interfaces19:45
nosrednaekimcrimsun_: hey... you around?19:45
nosrednaekimmatahari: go over to #alsa..19:46
mataharinosrednaekim: ok19:46
nosrednaekimtell them what qemu did19:46
davewhat kind of card is required to run compiz?19:46
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jpatrick!compiz | dave19:47
ubotudave: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:47
nosrednaekimdave: anything from the past 3 years will do19:48
noam_so basically, if i install the new proprietary ATI drivers, i need not worry, because i can always revert to the repository drivers by just removing fglrx from the restricted_modules file. right?19:49
davejpatrick, thanks but that doesn't give any requirements as far as i can  see?19:49
davenosrednaekim, ok thanks19:50
nosrednaekimnoam_: and uninstalling the proprietary driver from /usr/share/ati19:51
nosrednaekimdave:  what do you have>19:51
noam_what do you mean by uninstalling? the rm -rf uninstallation method?19:52
noam_i'll have packages and all that, that's what the guides do :)19:52
nosrednaekimnoam_: oh.... well with the 8.42 drivers,packages don't seem to work very well19:53
nosrednaekimat least not from what I have seen19:53
nosrednaekimand heard19:53
noam_argh. what's wrong with the packages?19:53
nosrednaekimnoam_: not sure... but the other method is painless and esily reversible as well, just run "sudo ./usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh19:55
BluesKajnosrednaekim, the 8.42 is prolly ok for higher end ati's , onboards don't work well despite what amd recs19:55
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: :D19:55
noam_cool! i thought running sh ati-driver-foobar.sh stepped on the package system and broke it19:55
vzduch!upgrade > vzduch19:56
BluesKajnoam_, nosrednaekim , i just reverted to the restricted driver in system settings after the 8.42 driver failed on my setup19:57
sammyhey whoa! I opened an open office document and exported it to pdf, the same open office document format of my resume I've exported many times, and now that I upgraded to gutsy, the export no longer fits on one page!19:58
nosrednaekimnoam_: oh yeah.... you have to disable the ubuntu-included fglrx kernel driver though.19:58
noam_what if i have 8.42 installed in /usr/share/ati and i want to upgrade to 8.43 when it is out? will i have to remove the current driver and install the new one?19:58
slvmchnhello, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed, how to i use xfce instead of gnome? i don't necessarily want to install the whole kubuntu package... i did it before on an earlier version of ubuntu where when i logged in i could change from gnome to xfce to blackbox to whatever i wanted, basically how do i set that up again19:58
sammyit's almost as if some sort of style changes have been made, but I haven't edited the file at all, and in fact tried a few other versions with the same file with similar results, they appear different now19:58
slvmchni just liked how i had a terminal prompt in the menu bar19:58
noam_nosrednaekim, in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common19:58
noam_?19:58
slvmchnpanel bar i mean19:59
nosrednaekimcprrect19:59
noam_cool19:59
sammyslvmchn: there has to be 419 different wikis and forum posts about how to use xfce/kde/gnome with ubuntu and how to switch between the few19:59
BluesKajnoam_, yes , amd recommends uninstalling the older driver first19:59
nosrednaekimnoam_: yeah.. i'd uninstall the 8.42 first19:59
noam_ok then. thanks19:59
noam_i hope this works :)19:59
vzduchsammy: did you count them? ;)19:59
sammyvzduch: I did! I can't manage a simple odt to pdf export, but I'm a savant when it comes to reading documentation and forum posts other people haven't searched for yet :)20:00
slvmchnsammy: how do i install kubuntu on top of ubuntu 7.1020:00
slvmchni'll just do that, i don't mind20:00
sammyslvmchn: again, there's documentation aplenty if you search for it on that exact topic. take your pick, forum post or ubuntu wiki, I'll even do the google search *for you* and private message you the url to the google search results :)20:01
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slvmchnif you don't know off the top of your head it's fine, i just thought i'd ask20:01
sammyit has to do with installing and uninstalling the different desktop meta-packages20:01
nosrednaekim!kubuntu20:01
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE20:01
sammyand possibly editing your gdm/kdm/xdm configuration files to allow for loading different desktop environments from the gui login screen, if you keep more than one installed20:02
BluesKajsammy, just install kubuntu-desktop20:03
vzduchsammy: you're speaking to the walls right now..20:03
BluesKajthat's all he needed20:03
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sammyvzduch: isn't that what irc is all about? BluesKaj: sorry, I get uppity when people don't bother to look for documentation first.20:04
mataharii have to reboot20:04
BluesKajdon't , if ppl knew how to search out info , they would ask in here :)20:04
BluesKajwoudn't need to20:05
Daisuke_Laptopin short...20:05
Daisuke_Laptop!coc20:05
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/20:05
BluesKajerr getting tired ...been a long day...think I'll take a nap20:05
nosrednaekimsammy: yeah, don't tell people to RTFM when they come in here and ask a question you consider "easy"20:05
sammywhat!? c'mon people, I might have been rude, but the fact is that there IS documentation on exactly what he was looking for, documentation that ANY search engine in existance would find. and that's one of the reasons the documentation is there, so the same questions don't have to be answered over and over and over and over again.20:07
Daisuke_Laptopthis channel gets dozens of people a day who know nothing about linux whatsoever.  we're here to ease the transition and help with issues, not belittle them and use the classic "linux users are jerks" RTFM tactic.20:07
mike-kubuntumy motherboard says 2 ddr 400 slots, would dd42 be ok in it? i know ddr2 isn't compatable with ddr320:07
Daisuke_Laptopddr2 is also not compatible with ddr20:07
noam_nosrednaekim, what do i do on kernel update? reinstall the driver?20:07
nosrednaekimmike-kubuntu: no... that won't work20:07
Daisuke_Laptopddr = 184 pin, ddr2 = 240 pin20:07
nosrednaekimnoam_: yup20:07
noam_oh20:08
Daisuke_Laptopit physically won't work :)20:08
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sammylinux users aren't jerks, we just expect people to use their computer, not ask other people to use it for them. if you want to make substantitve changes to your desktop environment, you shoudl at least be able to look up documentation on such a thing and not expect the community to walk you through it.20:08
nosrednaekimnoam_: from what I remember, you can even run that script from the CLI if need be20:08
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nosrednaekimsammy: why shouldn't we walk them through it?20:08
Daisuke_Laptopsammy: you're putting across the image that we are jerks.  we HELP people, not tell them to look somewhere else.20:08
sammyI've been using linux and sitting in such channels for over a decade, and there's a place for questions that don't have clear answers, but when they do, and they've already been written out and commented on and vetted by the community, thats where we should point people.20:08
noam_on kernel update, the system will work fine, except for 3d rendering? or will X not load at all until i reinstall the driver?20:09
webvictimhas anyone got experience with getting an nvidia mediashield RAID array to work under kubuntu?20:09
darth_chatrihi, has anyone encountered a keyboard freeze on kubuntu?20:09
webvictimi understand you have to use dmraid20:09
webvictimbut i can't seem to find any decent advice on it20:09
Daisuke_Laptopsammy: that's not the ubuntu way.  no one's stopping you from using that method anywhere else, but that is not the way things are done around here...20:09
nosrednaekimnoam_: I *THINK* x will load without 3d20:09
mike-kubuntunosrednaekim, is it a significant drop in performance between ddr and ddr2/3?20:10
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: in gutsy i believe it will, because of bulletproof x20:10
mataharii'm back20:10
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: KDM can't so bulletproof x20:10
vzduchmatahari: good choice :P20:10
darth_chatrikubuntu gutsy to be more precise20:10
Daisuke_Laptopmike-kubuntu: fairly significant.  but if you want to go to ddr2, you're looking at a new motherboard at least20:10
nosrednaekimmatahari: any luck?20:10
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: ah...20:10
Daisuke_Laptopanother area where kubuntu is the forgotten stepchild :\20:11
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: does the mouse work?20:11
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: indeed...20:11
mataharinosrednaekim: no luck20:11
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: yes, everything else works20:11
mataharinosrednaekim: i'm really depressed now - the guys in #alsa don't respond20:11
mike-kubuntuDaisuke_Laptop: figured, i'll wait till its time for a new processor20:11
Daisuke_Laptopi actually have encountered that problem one time resuming from suspend on this 1420...  i had to reboot to get the keyboard back20:11
Daisuke_Laptopmike-kubuntu: do you tend toward amd or intel?20:12
nosrednaekimmatahari: hmmmm20:12
nosrednaekimmatahari: I'm not too good with sound at all20:12
BluesKajsammy , it's atitude like yours that used to be quite prevalent a few yrs ago, ( I got linux chops and you don't ,you dummy ...read the man pages) ...well we're here to help those who are confused about what we mean by "documentation and the like " If you need to be on your high horse , then this isn't the room for you.20:12
mataharinosrednaekim: too bad...20:12
darth_chatriit seems to happen randomly20:12
nosrednaekimmatahari: try posting on the ubuntu forums20:12
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: my dad had the same problem on his laptop... is it a laptop?20:13
mataharinosrednaekim: the prob is: tomorrow at 9am i have a teleconference and need the sound there.... i could go crazy...20:13
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: yes20:13
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: disable your touchpad..20:13
BluesKajBBL ...naptime20:13
Daisuke_Laptopintel's 775 is a general standard with motherboards encompassing ddr and ddr2.  amd's a little more picky, i think am2 is the only processor line that will do ddr220:13
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: how?20:14
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: it had something to do with X/KDE and the touchpad being accidentally touched while typing20:14
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: or S1 for mobile..20:14
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: eh? doesnt quite make sense. anyway, i dont have a button to disable the touchpad20:15
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: i haven't kept up with amd recently :)20:15
* nosrednaekim is a AMD fanboi in his spare time20:15
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: such was his dillema as well20:15
nosrednaekimmatahari: load up a liveCD for the teleconference ;)20:15
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: so how did he solve the problem?20:16
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: given the performance from the core 2 duo in the laptop, i think i'm going to go to an intel system next time i upgrade my desktop (if i do)20:17
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: to tell you the truth...IDK.20:17
darth_chatrinosrednaekim: are you sure its a kde problem? it happens to me while using a different manager as well20:17
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: Intel chips are more expensive... and I find the bottle neck on this Turion X2 laptop is not the CPU,. but the graphics and HD/20:18
darth_chatrii have some kde apps running, but the services and the wm are not20:18
nosrednaekimdarth_chatri: no,i'm not certain, it very well could be an X problem20:18
Daisuke_Laptopaaaaand, i so want to grab one of those $199 walmart linux pcs (mini-itx, via c7 1.5ghz processor, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd)...  strip the atx case and stick the system in a nice small mini-itx case :D20:18
Daisuke_Laptopuse it as a streaming machine20:19
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: yeah... we have a Via system with about those specs... its runs nicely...22 watts!20:19
Daisuke_Laptopkeep it connected to the tv :D20:19
Daisuke_Laptopnosrednaekim: have you seen those yet?20:19
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Laptop: get a good graphics card though... via is crap20:19
nosrednaekimyeah.. I did20:19
Daisuke_Laptopall i really need is vga output20:19
nosrednaekimah.. ok20:20
Daisuke_Laptopif it can handle 1024x768 i'm fine20:20
Daisuke_Laptopcertainly not a gaming machine, and the new TV can't handle anything above that resolution (which is weird, the native res is 1366x768)20:20
nosrednaekimit can (without 3d accel) we have it attached to a 1280x1024 monitor.20:20
Daisuke_Laptopthe most taxing thing i would use it for is have it double as a classic gaming machine20:21
Daisuke_Laptopnes/snes/genesis emulation20:21
nosrednaekimshouldn't have a problem with that20:21
Daisuke_Laptopi'm gonna take this to -offtopic :)20:22
Daisuke_Laptopbefore someone gripes :D20:22
frankihay no one knows how to upgrade to 7.10 without turning off20:26
mcquaidi only recently upgraded to gutsy.  I just noticed kfind is no longer in my kmenu20:26
mcquaidi checked and it's still installed, and obviously I can easily readd it, just curious if others encountered this20:26
nosrednaekimfranki: not entirely possible...(kernel requires a reboot)20:27
tekstacy'lo all20:27
mcquaiddoes everyone else have kfind in their menu in gutsy?20:27
perrakoHow do you load new compiz themes into kde?20:27
frankiyea i know kernal requiers reboot but never mind i started the upgrade20:28
tekstacyI have 4 gb ram, but Kinfo says I have 3.1gb, anyone know why this would be?20:28
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qoloI friggin hate Konsole, is there a better shell ?20:29
tekstacycmd.exe20:29
qolothx20:30
tekstacyok, ok, sorry    :)20:30
mataharilol20:30
mcquaidtekstacy, I'm not sure but I read that 32 bit os's only have support for 4 gigs.  But from what I understand that xp doesn't report the 4 gigs correctly and you end up with something like you're saying.  And I heard that this happens in linux as well, which I'm surprised of20:30
mcquaidf20:30
qolo4 gigs is directly addressable, you can still have more it just takes a little longer to access20:30
qolo( i think )20:31
mcquaidtakes a little longer to access... that just doesn't sound correct20:31
tekstacyhmm, cool, thanks.20:31
qolo32^2 = 4gigs20:31
mcquaidso can anyone just quickly tell me if kfind is still in their kmenu after upgrading to gutsy?20:32
tekstacythat's an awsome ammount for a laptop20:32
NDPTAL85Anyone have any ideas on why Thunderbird on 7.10 won't access my IMAP accounts?20:32
tekstacymcquaid, I don't see it20:32
mcquaidthx, wonder why there is no entry for it now20:33
mcquaidi was curious if they were replacing kfind or something20:33
tekteenNDPTAL85: I will try it20:33
NDPTAL85It will access one, but I have 4 others that it won't.20:33
rakanHello20:34
tekstacymcquaid, open Adept and see if it is installed20:34
tekstacyhello rakan20:34
rakanI copied and burned debian packages downloaded by adept from archives folder to a CD20:35
mcquaidyep it's installed, just launched kfind from the run cmd. but I think it's a glaring omission to forget an entry for the find util20:35
tekteenNDPTAL85: what are the settings20:35
rakannow i formated my computer and reinstalled kubuntu20:35
rakanhow can i give all these packages to adept to reinstall because i dont want it to download them all again???20:35
NDPTAL85tekstacy: Settings? Regular settings for a GMail account.20:35
tekteenok20:36
tekteenhold on20:36
mataharinosrednaekim: i noticed something strange20:36
tekstacyNDPTAL85, I think you meant that for tekteen20:37
mcquaidrakan, i never use adept but for apt-get/synaptic they go in /var/cache/apt/archives20:37
NDPTAL85tekstacy: My bad20:37
mataharinosrednaekim: days when sound worked, i looked at the ouput of /proc/asound/cards - and there were 2 cards present (one analog, one digital)20:37
mataharinosrednaekim: now i only have one card there20:37
rakanmcquaid: ok i copied the packages into the archives folder20:37
tekteenit is working for me20:37
tekteencheck your settings20:37
rakanhow can i instruct apt-get to install them?20:37
NDPTAL85I know the accounts work fine because they work in KMail and on both of my Macs.20:37
tekteenok20:38
mataharinosrednaekim: is there a command to run a base-config of my system again?20:38
bibousalut20:38
tekstacymcquaid, you could just put it in the menu yourself.20:38
tekteenrightclick on the acount then click properties20:39
mcquaidtekstacy, yes which i already did, but it's still pretty bad to miss that20:39
tekteenNDPTAL85: then click the server settings tab20:39
nosrednaekimmatahari: didn't you say you recompiled alsa?20:39
mcquaidrakan, i'm not sure I exactly understand.  are you doing a fresh install?20:39
NDPTAL85tekteen: Then what?20:40
tekstacyyup, yup. someone forgot. But hey, at least wer're not stuck with vista....20:40
edo_hi all20:40
tekstacyhi edo_20:40
tekteenNDPTAL85: rightclick on the acount then click properties20:40
edo_i'm italian20:40
mataharinosrednaekim: yes, i did20:40
NDPTAL85tekteen: Yeah I'm there already20:40
tekteenNDPTAL85: then click the server settings tab20:40
nosrednaekimmatahari: well, that probably messed something up..20:41
edo_goodbye20:41
NDPTAL85tekteen: Dood, I'm there. Whats next?20:41
mataharinosrednaekim: maybe i can uninstall it...20:41
tekteencheck that it is connecting to pop.gmail.com and port 99520:41
rakanmcquaid: i did a clean install for kubuntu. But in the previous installation i installed alot of programs and packages using adept, to prevent downloading them again i just copied all the packages from the archives. What i am asking for is how can i give those packages to apt-get to install them all automatically with me having to go install them one by one???20:41
nosrednaekimmatahari: not sure...20:41
NDPTAL85tekteen: Its IMAP. So it would be imap.gmail.com20:41
nosrednaekimmatahari: try reinstalling the kernel..20:41
tekteenok20:41
nosrednaekimmatahari: is its gutsy?20:42
nosrednaekim*this20:42
mataharinosrednaekim: yes20:42
tekteenI suggest u use pop20:42
nosrednaekimmatahari: oh... hmm20:42
tekteenit makes no difference20:42
nosrednaekimNDPTAL85: gmail's IMAP is buggy20:42
tekstacyback to work...   Thanks for the help guys.   bye20:42
rakanmcquaid: got it?20:43
nosrednaekimmatahari: yeah... I don't know..20:43
mcquaidrakan, ok, again I never used adept but in synaptic if you select all those packages to install it will recognize they are in the archive and not download them again20:43
NDPTAL85nosrednaekim: Possibly but I'm only experiencing this issue on Thunderbird on Kubuntu. No other OS or email client.20:43
mcquaidbut that still is a pain selecting them all again20:43
mataharinosrednaekim: what can i do....20:44
nosrednaekimNDPTAL85: oh... ok20:44
tekteenanyone know howto make accented characters (for spanish)20:44
rakanaha ok, will try them20:44
rakani have to do it20:44
mcquaidso... i would do from konsole:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb while in the archive dir20:44
rakandont got any other way :(20:44
rakanhmm20:44
rakani will try that * :)20:45
mcquaidrakan, let me know if that works. it should20:45
rakanat least windows doesnt have such options20:45
rakanif i format windows i have to do 2 days of reinstallation :D20:45
rakanmcquaid: i will, thanks for now20:46
mcquaidk20:46
tekteenraken: u could back up windows20:46
Daisuke_Laptopyou're better off without windows :D20:46
tekteenI agree20:47
mataharinosrednaekim: how can i reinstall the kernel?20:47
tekteenbut u might need it20:47
tekteen:-(20:47
naxahi! How can i set the resolution to 16 BPP in KDE?20:47
naxaor 8 BPP20:47
DaSkreechmcquaid: I think it may be they are using strigi now20:48
rakanmcquaid: do u think it will work with some programs needing dependencies? would it install dependencies first then install package?20:48
nosrednaekimmatahari: that... I do not know... maybe install an older version of the kernel?20:48
mataharinosrednaekim: and how can i do that?20:48
MaDiNfO_does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ?20:49
nosrednaekimmatahari: just a sec20:49
MaDiNfO_to watch some movies on my TV ?20:49
mcquaidrakan, hmm, that will proabably fail on some of them, if you haven't already downloaded the dependencies20:49
mcquaidif all the dependencies are in that dir, you'll be fine20:49
rakanmcquaid: They are there :D20:49
rakani will try now20:50
mcquaidthen you should be good to go20:50
mataharinosrednaekim: i think i will reinstall gutsy....20:51
rakanmcquaid: hmm, sudo dpkg -i *.deb did not install all20:51
rakani think it took the last installed package and reinstalled it20:51
raindogAfter updating today my Kmenu won't open.  Is there a fix or workaround?20:51
MaDiNfO_does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ? _> to watch some movies on my TV ?20:51
rakan(Reading database ... 85286 files and directories currently installed.)20:51
rakanPreparing to replace bcm43xx-fwcutter 20060108-6build1 (using bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_i386.deb) ...20:51
rakanUnpacking replacement bcm43xx-fwcutter ...20:51
rakanSetting up bcm43xx-fwcutter (20060108-6build1) ...20:51
nosrednaekimmatahari: that may be easiest... do you have alot of files to backup?20:52
mcquaidrakan, not sure I understand last installed package.  dpkg is for manually installing debs.  It will not go to the net and grab new versions or anything like apt-get.  it doesn't not reference your sources.list file.  it's just a manual deb installer20:52
NickPrestaraindog, you could try this in a konsole: dcop kicker kicker restart20:52
mcquaidDaSkreech, strigi is an indexer like tracker, but what is the frontend for strigi in kde now?20:53
raindogNickPresta: Hey thanks.  That did the trick.  (I'm still getting used to KDE.) :)20:53
NickPrestaraindog, no problem :)20:53
mcquaidDaSkreech, I see there is a strigi applet, but is there not a standalone search that utilizes strigi/tracker backend?20:54
mcquaidrakan, so what happened some installed?  none?20:54
rakanmcquaid: no dpkg -i *.deb only installed bcm43xx-fwcutter.deb package which is for Broadcom wireless device drivers. Stopped right after the installation of this package completed20:55
mcquaidhmmm20:55
mataharinosrednaekim: yes/no..... the amount of files is not the problem.... how can i get a list of packages i installed manually?20:55
DaSkreechmcquaid: Yes but not in KDE3 I think20:55
mataharinosrednaekim: making a backup of /home should do it, right?20:56
ubuntuhello all20:56
sgt_hannibalhi, I'm new here.... And i have a problem  with the usb automount. Can anyone help me?20:57
rakanmcquaid: i think selecting the packages again using adept or synaptic is the way to go20:57
ubuntui can't enable 3d desktop in kubuntu however i done it quickly in ubuntu any ideas how to enable it here20:57
mcquaidyou really should be able to do what i'm saying.  one sec20:57
rakanmcquaid: ok waiting20:58
nosrednaekimmatahari: yes, that should do it... a list of packages that you manually installed would be hard...20:58
nosrednaekimsgt_hannibal: what is the problem.20:58
mataharinosrednaekim: i have an idea: the logfile....20:59
nosrednaekim!compiz20:59
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:59
DrakeJustice_hello all20:59
sgt_hannibalmy usb storage devices doesn't automount the way the it use to be20:59
sgt_hannibali upgrade to 7.1020:59
ubuntuthanks i am doing that now21:00
nosrednaekimmatahari: you can get a list of ALL installed packages with "dpkg -l"21:01
matahariok21:01
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mataharinosrednaekim: please cross your fingers for me...21:01
mataharinosrednaekim: if everything goes right i will be online again soon (hopefully in an hour....)21:02
nosrednaekimsgt_hannibal: and what happens?21:02
nosrednaekimmatahari: :)21:03
nosrednaekimmatahari: in the future you may want to put your /home on a different partition..21:03
mataharinosrednaekim: ;-)21:03
mataharibye21:03
rakanmquaid: it's working, the problem was that i did not CD to archives folder :p21:03
sgt_hannibalnosrednaekim: well, I can mount it, the issue is that it used to automount and recoginize the name i gave to it, now i have to manually mount it, and it will be named sdb121:04
athemhi everyone, am i able to upgrade to kubuntu from an existing ubuntu 7.10 installation?21:05
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DaSkreech!upgrade | athem21:05
athem!upgrade21:05
ubotuathem: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:05
nosrednaekimsgt_hannibal: take a look in system-settings-> advanced->disks and partitions21:06
sgt_hannibalnosrednaekim: and i used to have conky display the stats about my usb drivers... but now it doesn't recoginize its name, the main problem is: the first usb that i plug in will besdb1, regardless its name21:06
mcquaidrakan, ahh ok, i knew that should work.  good to hear21:06
jordsDoes anyone know if there are kde 4 beta 4 packages avalible for kubuntu yet?21:07
DaSkreechjords: Soon21:07
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athemDaSkreech: !update doesn't do anything, not help text pops up21:07
sgt_hannibalnosrednaekim: thats how i mount it, but before used to be automatically with the usb name (like linux01, linux02, win .. etc)21:07
athemubotu: there's only upgrade info from previous ubuntu installations to the latest release there, no info on switching from ubuntu to kubuntu21:08
sgt_hannibalnosrednaekim: and now is sdb1 sdb2 .... and the other matter... so I can't set my conkyrc to display my usb static right21:08
jordsathem: I think you just need to install kubuntu-desktop21:08
debian-is-meMy friend wants ATI drivers for kubuntu, how?21:08
nosrednaekimsgt_hannibal: ah... you need to use mount by UUID in disks and partitions21:09
tekteengo to the kcontrol panel21:09
DaSkreechathem: ooooh21:09
nosrednaekimdebian-is-me: if he is on gutsy, use the restricted-manager-kde21:09
athemhords: so Applications -> Add/Remove and then look for kubuntu-desktop?21:09
sgt_hannibalnosrednaekim: I see ...21:09
DaSkreechathem: You want to get rid of gnome ?21:09
debian-is-meit says  softvare source (....)  is not enabled, what is wrong?21:10
nosrednaekim!repositories | debian-is-me21:10
ubotudebian-is-me: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu21:10
nosrednaekim!search fglrx21:10
ubotuFound: fglrx-#ubuntu-effects, fglrx, ati-#ubuntu-effects21:10
nosrednaekim!info fglrx21:10
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in gutsy21:10
athemDaSkreech: I want to test out KDE, since i get choppy video playback and wondered if kde would work better21:10
jordsathem: I don't think it will be in add/remove, but If you go to synaptic it should be there21:11
nosrednaekim!info xorg-driver-fglrx21:11
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.9 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB21:11
jordsathen21:11
nosrednaekimdebian-is-me: you need to enable the restricted-repository21:11
rakanmcquaid: i thank you for saving 12 hours of my time :p :D21:11
DaSkreechathem: ah. Umm why don't you just install Kaffiene then?21:11
DaSkreechor vlc ?21:11
mcquaidnp21:11
debian-is-mewhy is it restricted?21:11
tekteenit means it is not open source21:12
tekteenyou can still use it21:12
tekteen:-)21:12
jordsathem: is it there?21:12
nosrednaekimdebian-is-me: just that its not officailly supported since it is closed sourse...itssafe tho21:13
debian-is-meBut what is point of open-source for people that doesn't know how to program?21:13
athemjords: there's lots of packages starting with kde, which one would be the right one to choose?21:13
athemDaSkreech: what is Kaffiene?21:14
tekteenit means other people can find bugs21:14
DaSkreechathem: The KDE video player21:14
DaSkreechYou can install it in Gnome21:14
DaSkreech what are the specs on your machine ?21:14
DrakeJustice_athem: not as well programed as some other video players i might add21:14
tekteendebian-is-me: it also means it cannot be supported21:14
tekteenalthough still safe21:14
debian-is-meBut for me, whats the diffrence? the binarys makes as much sense as the source-code, so should I use open-source or not care?21:15
tekteendo not care21:15
tekteensimple answer21:15
DrakeJustice_sheesh!21:15
athemDaSkreech: I am using ubuntu 7.10 with the standard gnome environment. running a kde program isn't possible atm ;)21:16
DrakeJustice_tekteen: what if no one cared?21:16
DaSkreechathem: Yes it is21:16
tekteeni know21:16
DrakeJustice_athem: gnome can run KDE apps21:16
tekteenbut it is all we have21:16
athemoh...hmm...gonna give this a try then21:16
tekteenand it has crashed many times21:16
tekteenlol21:16
debian-is-meCan gnome run Knetworkmanager?21:16
DaSkreechYes21:16
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: yea, but i wouldn't recommend it...21:17
arcadeHmm.  Having trouble with compiz and Ubuntu 7.10 (w/kubuntu-desktop) ..21:17
debian-is-mewhy not?21:17
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: gnome has a better one (for gnome)21:17
debian-is-meI like knetworkmanager21:17
DaSkreechKnetworkmanager was abused21:17
arcadeIs it completely non-supported?21:17
DaSkreechIt needs love and attention21:17
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: by all means, use it then :)21:17
DaSkreecharcade: Not totally unsupported :)21:17
debian-is-mehow can i abuse knetworkmanager?21:17
DaSkreecharcade: There is #compiz-fusion21:17
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: he meant the developers of it i think21:17
arcadeDaSkreech: :P  Of course, but I'm thinking "support from other kubuntu-users"-supported :P21:18
DaSkreechSure21:18
debian-is-meCan kubuntu/debian be used to crack wpa sertificates?21:18
angeldarkholmehello everybody...could you please tell me how can I activate compiz fusion on kubuntu gutsy?21:18
DaSkreechBut a good number of KDE<__>compiz-fusion bugs are really only fixable by the compiz-fusion people21:18
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: Any computer can do that21:19
angeldarkholmeeverything is installed (all the packages that I need)21:19
arcadeDaSkreech: Aha.:)21:19
DaSkreech!compiz | angeldarkholme21:19
ubotuangeldarkholme: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:19
angeldarkholmebut I can't see any desktop effects21:19
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: essentially anything electrical can...21:19
angeldarkholmethanks :)21:19
debian-is-meBut how?21:19
DaSkreechangeldarkholme: open a konsole and type compiz --replace21:19
tekteenlook opensource is the way to go. but if you want to play 3d games you need to install restricted drivers. :-(21:19
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: Wrong place to discuss that21:19
arcadeDaSkreech: Well, I'm hoping Kubuntu 8.04 and Compiz will play better together :P  (And Ubuntu ... I mean, there are still Bugs!) :P21:19
DaSkreecharcade: They will but it won't make much a difference21:20
jpatrickarcade: it's planned21:20
gogyhi to all I`m having pšroblems installing beryl-settings becouse they depend on python 2.4 I have 2.4 and 2.5 how to use right one for the instalation??21:20
debian-is-meBut I have a legimate reason, my school has wpa, but they won't give support for linux users, I have the username/password, but I need the sertificate21:20
arcadeDaSkreech: Hey, anything I can use to impress the windowsers at the office .. and try to get'em to switch :P21:20
DrakeJustice_gogy: update-alternatives --config python21:20
DrakeJustice_arcade: dozers aren't intelligent enough, switching them just makes them confused21:21
DrakeJustice_lol21:21
DaSkreecharcade: 8.10 will have KDE4 which has compositing built in21:21
DaSkreech compositing is the fanciness that compiz brings :)21:21
DaSkreecharcade: try the comfusion DVd21:21
DrakeJustice_KDE4.5 > compiz ?? w00t21:21
DaSkreecharcade: or press alt+space :)21:21
arcadeDrakeJustice_: That's not _our_ windows users :P  I mean, we're a sysadmin company :P  Our windows users are smart.21:22
debian-is-mewhat features will be inplented in Kubuntu 20.0.0.5?21:22
DrakeJustice_arcade: that's cool...21:22
arcadeDrakeJustice_: about 120 people, around 70 unix users :P  Not all linux though ;P21:22
DrakeJustice_arcade: lemme quote that 'windows users are smart' - nytimes21:22
DrakeJustice_lol21:22
debian-is-meis it freenode.com or org?21:23
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: org21:23
arcadeDrakeJustice_: I'll be happy when our technical director turns unix (again).  he's just using windows these days because the windows-department are feeling bullied ;PP21:23
athemDaSkreech: installed kaffeine but its not playing anything. so is there no way to get a kde desktop running other then to completely reinstall kubuntu from a live cd?21:23
DaSkreechathem: Sure install kubuntu-desktop21:24
DrakeJustice_arcade: tell the CEO's a nice presentation about 'vendor lock-in' and see their reaction21:24
debian-is-meis samba faster than a windows 2003 server, and can samba connect to an windows 2003 server?21:24
tekteenyes and yes21:24
DaSkreechathem: are you upgrading to 7.1021:24
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ardchoilleDrakeJustice_: Nice technique21:24
arcadeDrakeJustice_: Not necessary ;P  They know it.21:25
tekteensamba it can also be configured more21:25
DrakeJustice_arcade: and they still bought it?? lol21:25
athemDaSkreech: am using ubuntu 7.10 already21:25
tekteendebian-is-me: have any more questions21:25
debian-is-mecan I use a 133mhz 78mb ram as a samba file server?21:25
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: yup21:25
DaSkreechathem: ah ok :) yeah just install kubuntu-desktop21:26
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: slowly :)21:26
arcadeDrakeJustice_: Well, as we're a "both windows and unix shop" some of them need to ;P21:26
debian-is-mefaster than windows 2003 on an fast computer?21:26
tekteendebian-is-me: you would need a very basic install21:26
tekteen(with samba)21:27
athemDaSkreech: giving it a try, thanks ;)21:27
jordsathem: Yes you get a kde desktop if you install kubuntu-desktop21:27
debian-is-meYes, how can I strip debian down to speed up startup?21:27
ardchoilledebian-is-me: I don't think you'll get the desktop cd to run ont that, you're better off installing from the server cd21:27
DaSkreecharcade: I like alt+space though :)21:27
athemjords: thanks21:27
ardchoilledebian-is-me: install the server edition and build from there21:27
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: at that point I'd be looking at gentoo21:28
debian-is-meI'm talking about a diffrent computer, it is debian, and it uses 70sec to boot, too slow. Need to speed up-21:28
tekteendebian-is-me: boot does not matter21:28
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debian-is-mehow do I login?21:29
tekteendebian-is-me: what do u mean?21:29
debian-is-meI want the boot time to be lower, I get bored when I start the computer.21:29
tekteenyou could run it all the time (i do)21:30
Aartix003you get bored?21:30
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: kill services you don't need21:30
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: check sysv-init (read up on it)21:30
ardchoilledebian-is-me: Why do you even reboot/shutdown?21:30
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: /etc/init.d/21:30
debian-is-meok21:30
tekteendebian-is-me: /etc/rc.221:31
debian-is-meOnce in a while the power goes out, or the dog eats the wires21:31
ardchoilledebian-is-me: There's a nice cli ui for that: sysv-rc-conf21:31
tekteenthat is very rare21:31
tekteenlive through it21:31
Aartix003debian-is-me: working?21:31
debian-is-meworking?21:31
tekteen(from the very impatient 14 year old)21:31
noam_...so i installed the 8.42 driver, had some issues, so i ran uninstall_fglrx from /usr/share/ati and removed fglrx from the linux-restricted-modules. after i did that, X DID NOT LOAD AT ALL, and the radeon driver was sort of broken, so i installed 8.40. how depressing21:32
DrakeJustice_ardchoille: does debian-is-me know what cli or ui are?21:32
debian-is-meno, but do I need too?21:32
ardchoilleDrakeJustice_: I assumed he did21:32
DrakeJustice_noam_: you aren't alone... my 200m hates me as well21:32
DrakeJustice_ardchoille: lol21:32
qoloI hate you too21:32
tekteenI assumed too21:32
tekteencli=command line interface ui=user interface21:33
debian-is-meso I can just remove stupid stuff? like hp printing? torrent tracker? and other crap21:33
ardchoilleI guess I could have foregone the "ui"21:33
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: Alt+F2 'type 'konsole' then press enter then type into the terminal 'sudo sysv-rc-conf' and press enter21:33
yakuziHi all, i've a strange problem... i just had a sudden shut-down (for the 3th or 4th time in a few days) on my laptop (using gutsy)21:33
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: u need a new kernel compile probably21:34
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: userspace apps shouldn't cause that unless they are malicious...21:34
bmk789ktorrent isnt seeding correctly, is this a common problem?21:34
DrakeJustice_bmk789: no... what version are you using21:35
yakuzii have totaly no idea what can cause it... because it's not a normal shut-down, but my laptop just turns of directly...21:35
bmk7892.2.121:35
DrakeJustice_bmk789: default gutsy version seeds fine for me... maybe a reinstall or check the tracker's in your torrent21:35
tekteenbmk789: it may be your isp21:35
alexanderhi21:35
debian-is-mesysv-rc-conf not found21:35
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: that's what im saying, it has to be 'your hardware + bad kernel'21:35
bmk789tekteen: its worked fine until i switched to ktorrent21:35
tekteentype the command it gave21:35
alexanderhow do i install my printer (hp laserjet 1018) on my kubuntu21:35
tekteenok21:36
bmk789it will occasionally upload slowly but it drops after a few minutes21:36
ardchoilledebian-is-me: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf21:36
tekteenno clue21:36
DrakeJustice_ardchoille: lol21:36
debian-is-me' OK21:36
Alarmwhats a good application to trace hosts, check for open ports and stuff like that ?21:36
DaSkreechyakuzi: power manager?21:36
debian-is-meAlexander: lolz21:36
DrakeJustice_Alarm: ethereal??? not my question guys...21:36
debian-is-meAlexander: Install a printer in kubuntu is easy, just go into the priter thingi and install it.21:36
DaSkreech!wireshark21:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:37
DaSkreech!info wireshark21:37
ubotuwireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 1428 kB21:37
Alarmwhat do u mean ethereal ?21:37
DrakeJustice_alexander: you need programs called hp-toolbox, hplip, and hpjis...21:37
debian-is-mesysv-rc-conf how do I use? can I unselect anything i don't use?21:37
DrakeJustice_Alarm: ethereal is a network studying tool isn't it?21:37
alexanderhe doesnt find it21:37
DaSkreech!info ethereal21:37
ubotuethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 60 kB21:37
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: read up on that stuff first man!21:38
debian-is-meIs it a overkill to run kdm and gdm at the same time?21:38
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: yes21:38
tekteendebian-is-me: BE CAREFUL!!!21:38
debian-is-mewitch one is best?21:38
Alarmdrag0,  i dont know21:38
tekteenkdm21:38
tekteenI think21:38
DrakeJustice_alexander: use adept-manager to find those programs... or google them21:38
DaSkreech:-P21:38
DaSkreechthe one you like21:38
DrakeJustice_i figured someone would yell...21:39
yakuzican it be caused by a package that's maybe left after trying compiz-fusion?21:39
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: don't run both unless you use both...21:39
debian-is-mewhat does alsa do?21:39
tekteensound21:39
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: i don't think so... do you use proprietary drivers?21:39
debian-is-meCan I run kdm and gdm at the same time?21:39
tekteenI would keep that21:40
tekteenno21:40
debian-is-meWhy? I usally don't have any speakers21:40
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: yes you can, but you can only use one at a time21:40
tekteenok21:40
yakuziwell i've the restricted intel driver for my videocard21:40
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: you can run more than one at a time, but can only Use one at a time...21:40
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: that could be it... i wouldn't make that my first guess... how long has it been running good before shutting down (3months or more?)21:41
debian-is-mecupssys, is printers right?21:41
tekteenyep21:41
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: if you don't know don't stop it!21:41
Aartix003debian-is-me: nothing happends here!21:42
debian-is-meok21:42
debian-is-mein the other room21:42
yakuziwell i've installed gutsy around 1 week after release, before that i had feisty, working like a charm... (i didn't upgrade, a fresh install)21:42
debian-is-melook for debian-is-me in the screen21:42
debian-is-mewhat does klogd do?21:42
Aartix003woot?21:42
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: i hate to say, but you may need to reinstall to fix that kernel...21:42
tekteenlogs kde programs21:42
debian-is-mechange the room21:42
debian-is-methat can't  be useful?21:43
DrakeJustice_or google up howto compile a kernel for ubuntu21:43
bjwebbmy cursor is broke :S21:43
yakuzican i repair the kernell with the repair older instalation thing on the cd?21:43
bjwebbits stuck on the crossed circle21:43
bjwebbcan i fix without logging out?21:43
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: maybe, i've never had that situation...21:43
debian-is-meIt probably only use space an slow down computer making stupid logs?21:43
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DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: you'd be surprised later when you need those logs to fix something and don't have them...21:44
debian-is-meso it is safe to remove?21:44
rahmathow do I make emerald my main theme manager?21:44
tekteendebian-is-me: 1 I use them 2 they will be started later by kde21:44
yakuzithe thing is also, if i open adept manager and i search for installed packages with compiz, i've 1 left... "libdecoration0"21:44
debian-is-mecrapy kde21:44
tekteenyep21:45
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: i wouldn't... they don't take that much ram or space...21:45
yakuzican i remove that safely? (maybe that's left from the compiz-try and it causes it?)21:45
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debian-is-menfs-common seams useless? is it?21:45
tekteenyep21:45
tekteenunless u use nfs21:45
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: again gentoo would be good for that slow computer21:45
debian-is-medon't eaven know what it is21:45
Aartix003debian-is-me: aint working21:45
Nylehey guys21:46
debian-is-me600mhz amd duron21:46
DaSkreechdebian-is-me: just tell it you want to install samba and it will only install waht you need to run that21:46
Nylekubunti gusty keeps crashiin onn me21:46
DaSkreechNyle: repeatable ?21:46
rahmatok, im having serious issues, hah. Ive been searching everywhere but nothing has helped. I can't get KDM themes to work, can't get compiz confusion to work, and emerald theme manager to work.21:46
Nyleif i click to see a menu sometimes, it will reboot X21:46
Nyleif sometimes I drag a window it will reboot X21:46
Nylesometimes it goes blank/black21:46
DaSkreechrahmat: You need to install a package for KDM themes21:46
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, i'd say it's repeatable...21:46
Nylesometimes the whole system locks up21:46
DaSkreech!compiz | rahmat21:46
uboturahmat: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:47
rahmatI have kdm theme manager21:47
NyleI've ran memtest for a while, cpu burn in test, all the cables are carefully plugged in tight21:47
Nylethis only happens in kubuntu gusty21:47
debian-is-medo i need openbsd? it seams usefull121:47
Nylewhat do I do21:47
tekteenlol21:47
debian-is-menot?21:47
tekteendebian-is-me: no21:47
Nyledebian-is-me: you need flowers21:47
rahmatI have the compix-fusion settings manager21:47
DaSkreechNyle: is it repeatable ?21:47
tekteendebian-is-me: you do not know enough21:47
NyleDaSkreech: yes21:47
NyleDaSkreech: but I can't produce it21:47
rahmatI can load that but when I x the effects, they don't apply21:47
rahmat:\21:47
Nyleit just happens21:48
tekteendebian-is-me: sorry21:48
debian-is-metoo not have openbsd wont kill my system?21:48
rahmatsame with emerald theme manager21:48
tekteen?21:48
DaSkreechNyle: can you jump to #kubuntu-devel and explain what happens21:48
debian-is-meit will still boot and work?21:48
Aartix003debian-is-me: do this other day, im tired, i sleep now..21:48
debian-is-meok21:48
RichardBHhi21:49
RichardBHdoes anyone know anything about usb mmory sticks/cameras in kubuntu?21:49
tekteenwhat do u need help with21:50
debian-is-meShould I use rmnologin or does it suck like all the other stuff?21:50
tekteen?21:50
j2^Hello! I've spent most of the night on google, trying to figure out why 7.10 on a fresh install (Even in safe graphics mode) just gives me horizontal stripes (i can sort of see the desktop, but reading anything is impossible) (Core2Duo 2.66, nVidia 7300)  Knoppmyth and LinuxMCE works fine.21:50
yurimxpxmanwhat's the sftp command to download an entire directory? `get dirname` isn't working for me..21:51
debian-is-medoes sysklogd also only make stupid logs?21:52
jordsyurimxpxman: Not sure there is one, but I think most graphical sftp clients (I use gftp) will just list the directory and then fetch each file...21:53
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: 'system kernel log deamon'21:53
jordsyurimxpxman: that works fine21:54
debian-is-methaty would mean i don't need it at startup?21:54
DrakeJustice_debian-is-me: depends... what are you doing? a samba server? u need logs for servers... you'll get in legal bs over not having apropriate logs21:56
debian-is-meno a desktop21:56
RichardBHanybody got any idea why my camera isnt detected when i plug it in? (even as just a usb storage thing like in windows)?21:56
DrakeJustice_RichardBH: have you tried digiKam? it might be a PTP camera...21:57
ardchoilleRichardBH: Plug it in and see if you can add it on digicam21:58
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ardchoille*digikam21:58
tekteenmy camera (ect.) work fine21:58
ryanakcaNyle: hmm... does it happen under GNOME?21:59
Aartix003how can I get an ATI driver for my grafic-card?21:59
ardchoilleRichardBH: What kind of cam is it?21:59
ardchoille!ati | Aartix00321:59
ubotuAartix003: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:59
purpleposeidonIs there a daemon for letting a computer access another's usb ports?21:59
tekteensamba will work21:59
yakuziDrakeJustice_: after i tried compiz-fusion i removed all the things i installed... but if i search in adept on compiz, i still find an installed package called "libdecoration0" can i remove it safely?22:00
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: if you don't need compizfusion anymore22:00
DrakeJustice_yakuzi: make sure libdecoration isn't dependant on kwin or metacity first... most importantly actaully22:01
Nyleryanakca: i don't use knome22:01
Nylebut it happens not under anything but kubntu gusty22:01
RichardBHDrakeJustice_: is digiKam something i can install with Adept?22:02
DrakeJustice_RichardBH: yea, if it isn't already in the menu22:02
ardchoilleRichardBH: You should have digikam already in the Graphics menu22:02
RichardBHahha, found it, thanks22:02
RichardBHim always worried i havent quite got 7.10 - i thought dolphin was supposed to replace konqueror, but theres no sign of it22:03
ardchoilleRichardBH: Open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -a22:03
methodswhats that program that can make a screen cap of a vnc session ?22:03
RichardBHardchoille: lsb-release: command not found22:04
ardchoilleRichardBH: you need a "_", not a "-"22:04
ardchoillelsb_release -a22:05
RichardBHardchoille: my mistake :$22:06
RichardBH7.1022:06
ardchoilleThat's Gutsy22:06
RichardBHyeah22:06
RichardBHi just thought that meant dolphin should have replaced konqueror :P22:06
ardchoilleRichardBH: My camera wasn't detected either, but I was able to add it n digikam22:06
RichardBHdigiKam cant autodetect it - ill try adding it manually22:07
yakuziDrakeJustice_: it seems not to be needed for kwin or metacity, lucky for me because i was a bit fast with removing... your wrning came after i hit the remove :s22:07
ardchoilleRichardBH: Which kind/model is it?22:07
Aartix003ubotu: "cant find packs"22:07
ardchoille!bot22:07
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:07
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RichardBHardchoille: Olympus C-725UZ22:09
ardchoilleRichardBH: I don't see it in the list in kcontrol. only C-700, C-750 and C-77022:10
ardchoilleRichardBH: I'm looking it up in the Hardware Compat List22:10
RichardBHardchoille: im fairly sure its a C-700 DERIVATIVE22:11
RichardBHderivative*22:11
ardchoilleHmm.. don't see it there either22:11
RichardBHno, but i mean its almost identical to the C70022:12
RichardBHjust has a slightly better lens on the front22:12
ardchoilleAh, ok22:12
RichardBHardchoille: if it helps, im not sure any usb thing is detected..22:14
ardchoilleThen you have a bigger issue than just the camera22:15
RichardBHin fact, i cant see my usb ports in the lspci list ...22:15
RichardBH*goes back to google*22:15
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sorush20when I try to start system settings it keeps crashing any help please?22:24
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ardchoillesorush20: Try launching it from a terminal and see if there is any error output22:25
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sorush20I get this back trace http://pastebin.com/m486b960722:25
sorush20any ideas anyone?22:29
bjwebbhi22:29
sorush20hi bjwebb22:29
bjwebbħełłø22:30
sorush20hello bjwebb22:30
bjwebbany ideas of a video manager for linux?22:30
purpleposeidon!USB22:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:31
sorush20bjwebb: is there a video manager in windows?22:31
bjwebbsorush20: well for windows22:31
bjwebbitunes?22:31
sorush20!itunes22:31
ubotuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee22:31
sorush20banshee is a good one and also kaffeine22:32
bjwebbi know, but i don't want an audio player/manager alternative22:32
arash_isn't itunes for music, not video manager?22:32
purpleposeidon!usb22:32
bjwebbit does music videos as well22:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:32
arash_what is video manager anyway?22:32
sorush20there is songbird22:32
sorush20!songbird22:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:32
arash_!info songbird22:32
ubotuPackage songbird does not exist in gutsy22:32
bjwebbits not in gutsy repos i don't think22:33
bjwebbsongbird does video?22:33
arash_too bad :p. bjwebb, are you looking for a program that simply plays video files?22:33
bjwebbno22:34
bjwebbi have them22:34
sorush20there just isn't a program like that available as far as I know for linux22:34
bjwebbhmmm22:35
methodshey ?22:35
arash_mind describing what a 'video manager' is?22:35
bjwebbyou would have thought someone would have done an itunes clone with video22:35
methodsis x11 tcp turned off ?22:35
bjwebbarash_: like amarok is an audio manager22:35
arash_bjwebb: ah, you mean it's have them in a playlist?22:35
sorush20how do I add a user to a group from the command line22:36
bjwebbarash_: yeah and a library22:36
zengenAnyone know of a cd catalog app that will index id3 date of mp3's?22:36
arash_bjwebb: maybe Democracy player or Miro is what ur looking for, I've nnot really used any of them seriously...22:36
bjwebbarash_: hmm mebbe22:36
arash_!info Democracy22:37
ubotuPackage democracy does not exist in gutsy22:37
arash_!info Democracy Player22:37
bjwebb!info miro22:38
ubotumiro: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.8.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 555 kB, installed size 3012 kB22:38
bjwebbarash_: you know Democracy = Miro22:38
arash_bjwebb: yea, but I wasn't sure if they implemented it in 7.1022:38
bjwebboh okies22:38
arash_bjwebb: I still have Democracy Player ;) , (I have 7.04), it's far to buggy to use22:39
bjwebbyeah, i think i tried one of them briefly22:39
B-Minushow can i upgrade to the latest compiz-fusion ?22:40
Alarmwhen i just tried to do an apt-get upgrade , there were some packages to get upgraded like iceweasel openoffice.org-java-common . but i get also that penoffice.org openoffice.org-base and many others are being kept back, why is that22:41
d3vil_hi22:41
sorush20what are the dbg packages for system settings?22:41
methodshow do i enable x11 over tcp ?22:42
d3vil_Hi, this is my first try with Linux... i installed kubuntu and can't access my other (sata) windos partitions22:44
yakuzi!firewall22:45
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).22:45
[Relic]Hello :)22:45
d3vil_i have read  that  i modified the fstab...22:45
d3vil_...but have no idea22:45
[Relic]Got kdesudo running at boot but failing where do I look to see what it is trying to run that fails?22:46
RichardBHanybody know anything about pci cards not being detected in kubuntu?22:47
sorush20RichardBH: what pci card22:47
RichardBHits a USB card with 2 sockets on22:47
sorush20most usbs are detected..22:48
sorush20try do in lspci to find out the name22:48
sorush20do you see anything that sounds like your card22:48
sorush20somone help me access my systemsettings it keeps crashing22:49
RichardBHi have a host bridge, pci bridge, isa bridge and ide interface22:49
RichardBHhten my wired and wireless cards22:49
RichardBHthen my agp graphics card22:49
sorush20oaky22:49
RichardBHthe usb card doesnt seem to be listed22:49
DrakeJustice_sorush20: type 'kcontrol > /tmp/bob' and paste the /tmp/bob file please22:50
sorush20there isn't anything is the file22:51
sorush20DrakeJustice_:22:51
geniiRichardBH: Perhaps plug some usb deivice into it then see the results of dmesg22:57
RichardBHgenii: the bits that get added just after it gets plugged in?23:01
geniiRichardBH: Yup. then you'll know at least if it's seeing the usb somehow even if it's not listing it as on the pci bus23:02
KeithF40hey guys hwo do you get firefox working??????????23:02
KeithF40i downloaded it and have all the files but nothign opens it up23:02
RichardBHno - it still ends in the same lines, so it doesnt look like anything is getting added23:02
RichardBHgenii: i know the USBs have power because the camera turns on23:03
geniiSo you went to Adept or Synaptic package manager and chose for firefox to be installed, it installed, and now won't run?23:03
KeithF40oh i didnt know what to do there23:03
KeithF40i just downloaded the file and extracted it23:03
KeithF40im very new to linux23:03
Daisuke_Laptopproposal for hardy23:04
Daisuke_Laptopnon-skippable new-user tutorial.23:04
Daisuke_Laptopexplaining repositories and software installation :)23:04
KeithF40ok im in the manager23:04
geniiKeithF40: Install by package manager when possible :) Another alternative is from a Konsole, to type in: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firefox23:04
RichardBHDaisuke_Laptop: that would have been so useful for me...23:04
KeithF40where is this tutorial for me to read23:04
eljefe_can anyone tell me why me Kaffeine won't start?  It bounces there, mocking me, but there is no CPU usage or anything.23:05
geniiRichardBH: Does it show on command   lsusb instead of the lspci ?23:05
RichardBHlsusb just makes it pause for about half a second and then display the next prompt23:05
BluesKajeljefe_, are trying to play a commercial dvd ?23:06
geniiKeithF40: OK you see where it has Search in top left? put in for instance   firefox23:06
eljefe_BluesKaj: no, a home video.  its not the videotho, i cannot even launch the app.23:06
KeithF40yeah there are like 20 maybe23:07
BluesKajwill VLC play the video eljefe_ ?23:07
eljefe_mplayer will23:07
eljefe_its not the video, tho.  kaffeine won't open23:07
navetsis there a way to reinstall the gutsy kernel23:07
geniiKeithF40: n to where the main one, just firefox is. then check off the box23:07
kubuntunewbieget vlc23:07
eljefe_any video or anything23:07
eljefe_lol thanks kubuntunewbie23:07
eljefe_but  i like and want kaffeine; it worked yesterday.23:08
KeithF40idk if its workoing23:08
KeithF40i clicked reques install23:08
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: u think people want advice from a guy with the name kubuntunewbie?!?! ;)23:08
geniiKeithF40: You have to hit Apply Changes in bottom right23:08
KeithF40not it says break isntall23:08
eljefe_lol23:08
BluesKajok eljefe_ , try to install libxine1-ffmpeg23:08
eljefe_already installed23:09
eljefe_i reinstalled kaffeine but still, no.23:09
BluesKajeljefe_, was kaffeine working previous to your latest login ?23:10
eljefe_yes23:10
BluesKajtry a reboot23:10
geniiRichardBH: Do you know how to use pastebin website?23:10
eljefe_i just powered down to install a hard drive, but I've done nothing with that yet, and i don't see how it is related.23:10
eljefe_ok i'll try it...23:10
eljefe_or can i just change runlevels?23:11
kubuntunewbierebooting fixes everything23:11
kubuntunewbieone time i got a virus23:11
kubuntunewbieand rebooted23:11
kubuntunewbieand it was gone.23:11
BluesKaj<---doesn't fool with runlevels23:11
eljefe_i even removed the ~/.kde/apps/share/kaffeinerc but still no go23:11
eljefe_lol ok i'll reboot, back in a few23:11
kubuntunewbieanyone know of a good mindless game that can be played with a touchpad that is for linux and is free?23:12
geniiRichardBH: You can perhaps put in the pastebin the results of command:  lspci -vv       as well as the entire contents of the file /var/log/dmesg23:12
KeithF40why am i getting this break install erorr?23:12
RichardBHgenii:  ill give it a go23:12
BluesKajkubuntunewbie, watch tv :)23:12
kubuntunewbieBluesKaj: already doing that23:13
BluesKajtyhen yer halfwat there23:13
geniiKeithF40: When you opened the package manager did it ask for a password?23:13
BluesKajoops err then yer halfway there23:13
genii!ping23:15
ubotupong23:15
geniiOK, not ghosting :)23:15
KeithF40yes genjii and i entered it23:15
RichardBHgenii:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43055/ is the lspci -vv23:16
kubuntunewbieubotu whats up homie? how u been? u pimpin hoes tonight?23:16
bassmacthe packages with the kubuntu logo next to them in adept are "official" and others are not, right?23:16
eljefe_BluesKaj and kubuntunewbie -- yeah the reboot fixed it :)  thanks for the obvious tip23:16
geniiKeithF40: OK, good. Exactly what was the message it gave about not being able to install, or such?23:16
geniiRichardBH: OK, reading23:17
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: WAHOO! grab yourself a beer and enjoy watching that video u were going to watch!23:17
DrakeJustice_i just popped in, but kubuntunewbie: do you know what ubotu is?23:17
eljefe_will do!23:17
kubuntunewbieDrakeJustice_: yes, its a bot.23:17
DrakeJustice_kubuntunewbie: k23:17
kubuntunewbieDrakeJustice_: i was hoping a few people in here had a sense of humor.23:17
kubuntunewbieDrakeJustice_: ;)23:17
DrakeJustice_kubuntunewbie: otherwise that would have been hilarious...23:17
kubuntunewbieDrakeJustice_: lol23:17
BluesKajeljefe_, it's not obvious , it's just that it's symptomatic of a prob I had a few days ago as well, but why it requires a reboot to fix puzzles me :)23:18
DrakeJustice_kubuntunewbie: only a few ppl im tore up on dro right now, so it didn't sink in23:18
kubuntunewbieDrakeJustice_: hahah, nice bro23:18
RichardBHgenii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43056/ is the /var/lg/dmesg file23:18
geniiRichardBH: Great :) Reading23:19
eljefe_yean me also puzzled too.  i wonder if it was "running" and I should have dug for its process?  whatever, we're in business.23:19
RichardBHgenii:  thanks23:19
DrakeJustice_spacing back out into google now...23:19
BluesKajeljefe_, we should have tried to launch it from the CLI , to see what the error output was ..but it works now so....23:20
ubuntuhi all i want to enable subpixel font smoothing in kubuntu, any ideas?23:20
eljefe_I had, even with an strace, but nothing.23:20
eljefe_without strace it just sat there.23:20
kubuntunewbiewhat are the chances I could get pokerstars to run on linux?23:21
eljefe_you tell us!  try it out23:21
KeithF40there was an error commiting changes possibly ther wsa a prob d/ling some packages or teh commit woudl break packages23:21
KeithF40could not commit changes-adept manager was the title bar23:21
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: well it is an exe file and i would not know the first thing about runing an EXE file in linux23:21
eljefe_next question, how do i get a UUID to help mount drives?23:21
eljefe_nah, i'll just use the /dev/sdc1 i think, not really needed.23:22
robinsonevening, all23:22
KeithF40this is the firefox-3.0 package23:22
robinsonrunning gutsy on my laptop, a compaq v5204nr. I have an occasional "stutter" in response, any ideas on how to get rid of this?23:22
geniiRichardBH: Some clues there. "Cannot allocate resources to slot 5" etc etc. Also your ACPI or APIC is not being seen or setup properly. I would recommend to try a kernel option of pci=routeirq to try and sort out the resources (likely irqs)23:22
robinsoni have 1GB of ram and a 1.5GHz CPU, worked fine on older distros23:23
eljefe_ah you ARE a newbie then.  To do so, make sure that you have installed Wine; then at a command line (browse to the EXE in Dolphin, hit [F4] to open a terminal there) run "wine pokerstars.exe"23:23
eljefe_kubuntunewbie: ^^23:23
RichardBHgenii: ok - how would I go about doing that?23:23
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: thanks a lot.23:23
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: trying that now23:23
eljefe_sure23:24
eljefe_thats why we're all here, to share what we know23:24
KeithF40gegi you see what i wrote23:25
BluesKajrobinson, it should run fine with those specs, but it could be a graphics or other hardware driver struggling to keep up, with xorg settings23:25
robinsonstrange.. didnt have this stutter with fesity23:25
geniiRichardBH: To test it for a single boot, hit esc at grub. edit the default kernel line that ends something like quiet splash to add in  pci=routeirq then hit enter to save it for that session and b to boot. To make these kinds of changes permanent editing with admin privelege the file /boot/grub/menu.lst for that same kernel line.23:25
MaDiNfO_does any one knows how can i enable TVout on my GFX board ? _> to watch some movies on my TV ???????????????????????????23:25
ubuntuhi all i want to enable subpixel font smoothing in kubuntu, any ideas?23:26
kubuntunewbiejeezus, i am downloading at 1500kB/s23:26
arash_kubuntunewbie, tss.. that's nothing23:27
geniiKeithF40: OK, close the package manage, and then open up Konsole, from K menu..System. then put into Konsole:     sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install -f -y firefox23:27
kubuntunewbiearash_: for 30 dollar a month cable modem its pretty sweet23:27
geniiKeithF40: The password it will want is the same as for your normal login23:27
RichardBHgenii: i add in the pci=routeirq after the quiet splash bit?23:28
geniiRichardBH: Or before, makes no difference23:28
RichardBHok23:28
arash_kubuntunewbie: oh, sorry, I was comparing with 'Windows Update' upload speed ;)23:28
RichardBHhopefully be back in about 10 minutes - thats how long it takes to shut down/boot up23:28
RichardBHthanks for your help so far if i dont make it back23:28
geniiRichardBH: OK. after the boot see if lspci shows the card then23:28
KeithF40it said the package is not available but is referred to by another package23:30
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: oh wow, not in a million years did i expect it to work, but yeah, pokerstars is up and running.  i had no idea it would work.  Is wine pretty flawless?23:30
eljefe_far from it23:30
eljefe_but it depends on the app, and its getting pretty good these days23:30
eljefe_larger apps, like Office 2003 or something, tend to wrok less well23:31
eljefe_esp if its a MS app, as they like to make it hard23:31
eljefe_but that is great that you're running!23:31
eljefe_is it a fun game?23:31
robinsonRunning Dreamweaver 8 with no issues using wine :)23:32
eljefe_what release is Dreamweaver at now tho?23:32
level1__hi, knetworkmanager is being a little dumb for me, I've had this problem since gutsy beta.  Basically, it deletes elements from knetworkmanagerrc; it seems to have trouble with more than 3 hardware (MAC) addresses being associated with one AP23:32
robinson9, i think23:32
eljefe_eh, not too bad then23:32
level1__copy in a new knetworkmanagerrc, sometimes it works23:32
robinson9 may work, just no need to buy it...23:32
eljefe_Photoshop is another that doesn't often work well23:33
kubuntunewbieeljefe_: its a poker site, u can play poker for free against people23:33
eljefe_i think, i don't use it so no idea23:33
eljefe_kubuntunewbie: nice23:33
geniikubuntunewbie: I just did this last week for my friend, no linux pokerstars client. He says all the functions on it work as expected (feisty)23:33
kubuntunewbiegenii: yeah, i could not believe it23:33
=== kferreira is now known as Leia
kubuntunewbieahh this wine application is going to make my break from windows one step closer.23:35
geniiLOL closed Konversation accidentally23:35
* genii goes bleary-eyed to make coffee23:36
cedurhello23:37
tekteenhi23:37
eljefe_aiight, got my new drive installed and working, now i only have 1500GB to worry about backing up ;)  have a good evening peops, off to dinner with my lady23:37
cedurcan someone halp me with installing VMware on ubuntu?23:37
eljefe_cedur: i don't think its available yet :(23:38
eagles0513875mornign guys23:38
eljefe_evenin' ;)23:38
eagles0513875lol23:38
cedurwell23:38
eagles0513875eljefe_: i wish i had a lady lucky u23:38
funcrushgood morning23:38
eagles0513875lol23:38
eagles0513875morning fun23:38
cedurgood night : P23:38
eagles0513875lol23:38
funcrushlol23:38
funcrush;)23:38
eagles0513875i should go to bed and i should be out clubbing right now23:39
cedurbrb23:39
eagles0513875but i cant seem to get a hole of any of my friends23:39
eljefe_cedur: you can install from VMWare's site, but when the package is available for install with Adept it'll work/upgrade nicer23:39
nosrednaekimuse virtualbox23:40
BluesKajeagles0513875, you spend entirely too much time in here to have friends :)23:41
eagles0513875BluesKaj: ull be suprised how many friends i have all i need is a gf23:41
ardchoillelol23:41
BluesKajWE are your friends23:41
cedurwell23:41
eagles0513875u guys are as well:)23:41
tekteenanyone know why the kubuntu install cds do not work in qemu23:41
BluesKajhehe23:41
eagles0513875ardchoille: i figured out my problem23:41
eagles0513875!qemu23:41
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo23:41
ceduris there a possibility that vmware will run on wine?23:41
tekteenno23:42
eagles0513875cedur: just use virtualbox its exactly like vm23:42
tekteenit is not working23:42
eagles0513875and its in teh repos23:42
BluesKajerr if you have vmware , you don't need wine23:42
cedurY?23:42
tekteenubuntu under ubuntu23:42
RichardBHgenii: no luck :( although i did discover i have 4 or 5 7.10 kernels installed ^o)23:42
eagles0513875tekteen: i was just looking at it for my info i didnt know what it did23:42
tekteenok23:42
tekteensorry23:42
eagles0513875tekteen: there should be virtual box in repos for ubuntu as well23:42
tekteennext time you should private chat with the box23:43
tekteen(I have done it)23:43
tekteenbot*23:43
eagles0513875ardchoille: i figured out why i couldnt convert my wmas23:43
geniiRichardBH: since the motherboard is also pre 1998 you will need as an option: acpi=force. (scouring the dmesg stuff again)23:44
eagles0513875whats become of hobbsee i havent talked to her in ages23:44
RichardBHdoes it matter that the motherboard may not have acpi?23:44
BluesKajeagles0513875, think she's busy with her blog etc23:44
cedurplease, god, make a miracle, and make mi shitty-installed wine run this wmvare23:45
eagles0513875BluesKaj: what blog23:45
WindowSmasher!upgrade23:45
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes23:45
oficiniaHi, i need to go to Kubuntu-es23:45
RichardBH!ES23:45
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:45
oficiniaCan you tell me how?23:45
oficiniaThanks23:45
geniiRichardBH: Actually, it does have acpi, it's using some via chip for that actually. But you have to force the kernel to use it, older bios automatically for safety sake the boot process disables it23:45
RichardBHah, ok23:45
tekteentype "/join #kubuntu-es"23:46
eagles0513875this is going to be a headache debugging this embedded java os that i found and make some upgrades to it23:46
cedurYES23:46
cedurits working!23:46
ceduri can't belive it!23:46
geniiRichardBH: Other notes: If possible to set in the bios of the system, check the pnp on or off settings. On really old boards it might be something like windows95 compatible or not23:47
WindowSmasherIs there a graphical update manager to upgrade kubuntu?23:47
cedurcrap, its not working.23:47
ignoramusIs anyone here any good with SynCE?23:47
eagles0513875none of the girls i like seem to like nerds like me23:47
kubuntunewbieWindowSmasher: yes, its called adept manager23:48
WindowSmasherRight, but I have to change all the repos by hand, yes?23:48
kubuntunewbieWindowSmasher: nope, let me get exactly how to do it for u23:48
RichardBHgenii: what should it be set to if possible?23:48
WindowSmasherThank you23:48
oficiniaHi23:48
eagles0513875WindowSmasher: u trying to upgrade to gutsy23:48
kubuntunewbiewindows load adept manager go to adept and then go to manage repositories23:49
kubuntunewbie^^ WindowSmasher23:49
eagles0513875*jumps out of a window23:49
ignoramusHas anyone been able to connect a WM5 device using synce?23:49
geniiRichardBH: If irq assignment is an issue then set the bios NOT to use pnp. Then it will assign an irq to devices on it's own and report those to the OS23:49
RichardBHok23:49
WindowSmasherk23:50
WindowSmasherI can only jump one version at a time right?23:50
geniiWindowSmasher: Yes23:50
kubuntunewbieis there currently any sort of itunes software for linux so i can put song on my aidspod from linux?23:50
WindowSmasherrude23:50
WindowSmasherkubuntunewbie: banshee23:50
ignoramuskubuntunewbie: also, sonbird has ipod support23:50
ignoramus*songbird23:50
WindowSmasherI always forget about songbird23:51
WindowSmasherI used it for a while tho23:51
geniiWindowSmasher: If you are trying to upgrade from some version like 5.10 or such, I would say to just back up /home and do a fresh install23:51
ignoramusWindowSmasher: It's been getting a lot better23:51
WindowSmasherI'm on 6.0623:51
geniiWindowSmasher: 6.06 to 6.10 is the biggest leap/headache23:52
WindowSmasherokay23:52
WindowSmasherI'll use my works' ds3 to download 7.10 then23:52
nosrednaekimamarok can do it too!23:52
WindowSmasherhaha23:52
Chris7mashi23:52
Chris7masdon't you know, is there a way to mount or convert to iso a nrg image?23:52
ignoramusWindowSmasher: I actually backed up whatever data, and then just used the 7.10 live cd - a *lot* less headaches23:52
nosrednaekimChris7mas: what is an nrg?23:53
WindowSmashernrg is a nero file23:53
geniinrg=nero iso23:53
WindowSmasherright?23:53
WindowSmasheryeah23:53
WindowSmasherignoramus: okay23:53
Chris7masnrg image23:53
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: An ISO made by Nero23:53
DaSkreechit's nearly an ISo23:53
Chris7masso can i mount it as iso with sudo mount -o loop?23:53
Chris7masi don't have it yet, that's why i'm asking23:54
genii!info nrg2iso23:54
ubotunrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB23:54
Chris7masthankyou very much genii23:54
geniinp23:54
WindowSmasherthanks all23:54
ignoramusChris7mas: I thought you wanted to convert TO .nrg23:54
ignoramusalthough i dont know why you would need to23:55
=== ignoramus is now known as FUD
geniiChris7mas: usage is commandline but simple:   nrg2iso filename.nrg newisoname.iso23:56
FUDanyone been able to sync a SmartPhone with Kubuntu?23:57
kubuntunewbieFUD: what do u mean by sync?23:58
kubuntunewbieFUD: like sync contacts?23:58
kubuntunewbieFUD: i have a blackberry curve and i can get my data on and off of it with no problem23:58
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TheSayersHm. Why does kopete crash the system?23:59
kyronhello all, there seems to be many sources for info on ndiswrapper usage under kubuntu...too many, could anyone point me to a good one applicable to 7.10, thanks!23:59
FUDkubuntunewbie: i've installed SynCE, but it doesn't connect - it just hangs23:59
FUDI have an HTC STRTRK23:59

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