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avila | Hello. | 02:33 |
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jjesse | hello avila | 03:24 |
avila | Hi! | 03:24 |
jjesse | how are you avila | 03:26 |
avila | Doing well, you? | 03:27 |
avila | I thought I would jump on the help-with-ubuntu-documentation bandwagon | 03:27 |
jjesse | avila: in regards to the server documentation? | 03:28 |
jjesse | or other documentation? | 03:28 |
avila | No idea | 03:28 |
avila | I have no experience at all | 03:28 |
avila | But I've been using ubuntu since June | 03:29 |
avila | and want to help out | 03:29 |
avila | but I have no artistic ability | 03:29 |
avila | and I'm not really a programmer | 03:29 |
jjesse | awesome, glad to hear that, the easiest way to help is to start reading the system documentatin and start reporting bugs against it on launchpad | 03:29 |
avila | so I figured this was probably my best bet | 03:29 |
michael_mac | same boat for me! | 03:29 |
michael_mac | except I am only 3 months into ubuntu and linux | 03:30 |
avila | snaz | 03:30 |
avila | we can learn things together | 03:30 |
jjesse | awesome glad to hear | 03:30 |
michael_mac | sounds like a plan | 03:30 |
michael_mac | i would like to end up on the WikiTeam, eventually | 03:31 |
michael_mac | but I am good with proofreading...for now | 03:31 |
avila | yeah I was thinking I could go grammar nazi or something | 03:31 |
jjesse | avila: if you want to go that way, grab the styleguide that mpt is going to be making sure is on the wiki page and go to town :) | 03:32 |
avila | Yeah I haven't read through much of the wiki pages yet | 03:33 |
ardchoille | Where is the system help by the way? | 03:33 |
jjesse | in ubuntu its in yelp and in kubuntu its in khelpcentre | 03:33 |
ardchoille | I'll have to make a kmenu item for it | 03:34 |
ardchoille | Ah, first bug.. the khelpcenter menu item is missing in kubuntu | 03:34 |
ardchoille | nvm, found it | 03:36 |
jjesse | its just labled as help | 03:37 |
ardchoille | yeah, that's what threw me | 03:37 |
jjesse | i think its labeled help in ubuntu as well (i use kubuntu and haven't checked ubuntu in awhile) | 03:37 |
avila | oh, do we need to be running Gutsy for all this? | 03:38 |
avila | I haven't upgraded yet, I was going to wait a bit. | 03:38 |
jjesse | avila: it depends on if you want to work on wiki clean up or the actual system documentation | 03:38 |
jjesse | you could always create a gutsy virtual machine which is pretty easy to do | 03:38 |
avila | I think I'll work on clean up first, that'll give me an idea of what I'm getting into anyway. | 03:39 |
jjesse | awesome, well ping me w/ questions | 03:39 |
avila | Don't worry I will! | 03:39 |
jjesse | avila: are you on the ubuntu-doc mailing list? al ot of converstain happens there as well | 03:40 |
avila | yes, I joined this afternoon. | 03:40 |
ardchoille | So did I | 03:40 |
avila | I'm a member of the MA Loco team | 03:40 |
avila | but really I"m just a cheerleader | 03:40 |
jjesse | avila: cool, i'm in MA for UDS - Boston, tomorrow is my last day | 03:40 |
avila | to them | 03:40 |
avila | oh really? | 03:41 |
jjesse | comming back to boston in a couple of weeks for work as well | 03:41 |
avila | I work at the Kendall T stop so I thought about stopping by, but I figured it would all be over my head anyways | 03:41 |
avila | What do you do? | 03:41 |
jjesse | discuss the next version of ubuntu | 03:42 |
jjesse | this was the schedule for today: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/uds-boston-2007/2007-11-01/index.html | 03:42 |
avila | Hardy? | 03:42 |
jjesse | yes 8.04 hardy | 03:42 |
avila | wow, I didn't realize the schedule would be sooo packed | 03:44 |
avila | that's insane | 03:44 |
avila | I played darts with a guy who worked at the hotel that the last UDS was at in Cali. It was really fun to hear his perspective. He basically called us geek hippies | 03:44 |
jjesse | avila: yeah you subscribe to the specs you are intersted and then the automatic schedule plans out when the sessions happen | 03:45 |
avila | oh wow, fancy | 03:45 |
avila | Thanks for the introductions! Goodnight all! | 03:48 |
mpt | Goodnight avila (and welcome!) | 03:48 |
jjesse | night avila | 03:49 |
mpt | And even quiet spectators are welcome at the sessions | 03:50 |
michaelramm | sry to drop out...having serious firefox issues tonight | 03:53 |
michaelramm | brought down my whole system | 03:54 |
michaelramm | and almost did it a second time | 03:54 |
mpt | Firefox brought down your whole system? | 03:54 |
michaelramm | yep | 03:54 |
michaelramm | and now it will not start apparently | 03:54 |
mpt | Sure you're not using Internet Explorer? :-) | 03:55 |
michaelramm | not unless it is on gutsy | 03:55 |
jjesse | mpt: don't you have to do a usuablity study of internet explorer :P | 03:55 |
michaelramm | now system monitor is freaking out | 03:55 |
michaelramm | color > gray > color > gray | 03:55 |
mpt | jjesse, that's more a QA issue than a usability issue really | 03:56 |
michaelramm | So, we need to learn DocBook, eh? | 03:56 |
jjesse | well it depends on what you want to do.... you can post bugs and not the fixes which wouldn't make you learn docbook | 03:57 |
jjesse | you could help out on the wiki wouldn't make you learn docbook | 03:57 |
michaelramm | not really good with bugs and fixes | 03:57 |
jjesse | but yes if you want to system documentatin you need to learn docbook :) | 03:57 |
michaelramm | especially since I am new to ubuntu | 03:57 |
jjesse | michaelramm: i din't know how to triage a bug when i started writing docs, but i've spent the last 3 hours on bug work :( | 03:57 |
michaelramm | i am not closed to the possibility...just not my interest at this stage of the game | 03:58 |
jjesse | michaelramm: i understand so one thing that you could do simply is to read the documentation and email the list w/ either typos or factual errors | 03:59 |
jjesse | or someone from the doc book could help you out w/ learning how to reprt them | 03:59 |
michaelramm | i can totally do that | 03:59 |
michaelramm | so I have to download the repos, right? | 04:00 |
jjesse | awesome, wen i started w/ ubuntu i dn't know how to report a bug and now i'm ata devveloper sprint helping out so be careful :) | 04:00 |
jjesse | you have gutsy instaleld right/ | 04:00 |
michaelramm | yes | 04:00 |
jjesse | just read the docs that are provided there then | 04:00 |
jjesse | in help | 04:00 |
michaelramm | ok, brb...have to restart...again | 04:01 |
michaelramm | ok, maybe this will be better | 04:05 |
michaelramm | i am on a temp desktop | 04:05 |
michaelramm | my main blew out a power supply and mobo | 04:05 |
jjesse | wow | 04:09 |
jjesse | well its late and another big developer day before a flight home so off to bed | 04:09 |
michaelramm | good night, and thanks | 04:09 |
jjesse | np talk to you l8ter | 04:10 |
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mdke | somerville32: yeah | 07:08 |
ardchoille | In khelpcenter, when I click on Application Manuals > Graphics > DigiKam, where is that manual stored on the hard drive? Is It somewhere in /usr/share/doc/ ? | 08:15 |
ardchoille | The reason is that I want to find an existing one, take it apart, and see how hard it is to write new ones for those which don't exist. | 08:17 |
ardchoille | I learned how to write man pages by taking existing ones apart :) | 08:18 |
ardchoille | Found it: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en | 08:35 |
ardchoille | I found an app that has no documentation (handbook). I'll try to write it myself. | 09:11 |
ardchoille | I have some info for you all | 09:44 |
ardchoille | I was going to write the handbook/docs for KnowIt but | 09:44 |
ardchoille | The KnowIt handbook is already written, but it's in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/knowit | 09:44 |
ardchoille | It just isn't visible in khelpcenter | 09:45 |
ardchoille | I copied it to /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/knowit and the docs are now visible in khelpcenter | 09:45 |
ardchoille | So, it's already written, it's just in the wrong location | 09:45 |
ardchoille | I need to file a bug about this. Would I file it against khelpcenter or against knowit? | 09:49 |
ardchoille | Bug filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knowit/+bug/159463 | 09:58 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 159463 in knowit "KnowIt docs in the wrong place" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
ardchoille | hehe, my first task as an ubuntu-docs student complete :) | 10:00 |
ardchoille | Oh, and the Kompose handbook/docs are the same way. | 10:01 |
ardchoille | Either the Kompose handbook was someone's attempt at humour, or it was written by someone who had something against kompose | 10:30 |
ardchoille | Another bug filed | 10:30 |
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ubotu | New bug: #159645 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Missing word in the french firefox homepage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159645 | 22:40 |
nixternal | FIXED | 22:49 |
jjesse | BROKE | 22:49 |
somerville32 | MOO | 22:51 |
jjesse | quick tip the cow | 22:51 |
* somerville32 scrambles. | 22:51 |
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