[00:00] <gnomefreak> apport started in edgy started really working in feisty
[00:00] <gnomefreak> only has gotten better
[00:00] <_mastro_> feisty not keeping up to date
[00:00] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: should i start build again?
[00:00] <gnomefreak> !apport
[00:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:00] <Ubulette> yes
[00:00] <gnomefreak> ofcourse you dont :(
[00:00] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: but... what's that? a bug report? a tool that auto-debug it?
[00:01] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: leave the patch in debian/patches?
[00:01] <Ubulette> _mastro_, auto report on crash
[00:01] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: auto bug reporting tool
[00:01] <_mastro_> oh.. yes.. i know..
[00:01] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, yes. it's no longer in series
[00:01] <_mastro_> i simply forgot it was called apport
[00:01] <_mastro_> 13 minutes remaining than i will debug it myself.. i feel lucky
[00:02] <gnomefreak> app crashes saves crash log in /var/crash and normally has a gui come up to report the bug than LP or an LP bot uses the info given to extract the coredump
[00:02] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: lol.. no guy here
[00:02] <_mastro_> guy -> gui
[00:02] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: that could be why. well use link or lynx to report the bug an attach your crash report
[00:02] <gnomefreak> Lp will do the rest
[00:03] <_mastro_> why???
[00:03] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: its still in iceowl/debian/patches/series
[00:03] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: fine do it the hard way
[00:03] <_mastro_> why should i use links or lynx ?? firefox isn't good for you? :)
[00:04] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: you have no GUI
[00:04] <gnomefreak> as you just said
[00:04] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i've no apport gui ;D
[00:04] <gnomefreak> so im assuming your on a ssh
[00:04] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: if  apport is installed you do
[00:04] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: oh.. yeah.. may be it isn't
[00:04] <gnomefreak> you should beable to call it up too
[00:04] <_mastro_> shouldn't it be default installed ?
[00:04] <gnomefreak> but just attach the fiule to a bug report in LP
[00:04] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: it is
[00:04] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, then remove it but you'll have to redo the patch eventually
[00:05] <gnomefreak> if i build it as is it will fail and i should get a .rej file than instead of quilt i read it first
[00:05] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: never used ubuntu before :D
[00:05] <gnomefreak> see if its the whole patch that has been applied
[00:05] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i usually go with debian
[00:06] <_mastro_> never had problem like this
[00:06] <gnomefreak> that reminds me
[00:07] <gnomefreak> asac: are you doing tbird 2.0.0.8 for hardy? the patch for r-t-l.patch is fine 3.0 works here without a problem same and new profile
[00:07] <gnomefreak> brb while this gets to failing to build
[00:18] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: here is the .rej file for that patch http://pastebin.mozilla.org/232779
[00:18] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: in a sec ill give you patch but i think thats all the lines in it]
[00:18] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: Ubulette it say i can't install the dbg cause the thunderbird package isn't installed
[00:18] <_mastro_> it's now called mozilla-thunderbird
[00:19] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/232780
[00:19] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: in feisty yes
[00:19] <gnomefreak> in gutsy its thunderird
[00:19] <_mastro_> well.. so what?
[00:19] <gnomefreak> mozilla-thunderbird is just a dummy package
[00:19] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: use feistys repo
[00:20] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs/pool/main/m/mozilla-thunderbird/
[00:20] <_mastro_> O_o i've already installed mozilla-thunderbird
[00:21] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: ok.. thanks :D
[00:21] <gnomefreak> normally a good idea to use the repo for your version in sources.list
[00:21] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: make sure it matches your version of mozilla-thunderbird
[00:21] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy mozilla-thunderbird
[00:22] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: it looks like that patch is able to be dropped i would just like a confirm on that
[00:22] <_mastro_> i hope
[00:22] <_mastro_> mozilla-thunderbirdVersion: 1.5.0.10-0ubuntu3
[00:23] <gnomefreak> what version do you have?
[00:23] <gnomefreak> hint 20:20 <      gnomefreak > apt-cache policy mozilla-thunderbird
[00:24] <_mastro_> another 8 minutes
[00:51] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I use kubuntu 7.10 and I have pretty nasty problem with firefox that I cannot fix
[00:51] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I cannot install any extensions
[00:51] <cooler> [01:47] <cooler> when I click on a "install now" button in most cases nothing happens
[00:51] <cooler> [01:48] <cooler> sometimes after 4-5min appears pop up for install and when I click on the install button it begins with download but then it forzes I cant continue
[00:52] <cooler> can anybody hep?
[00:52] <cooler> I really cant find a solution...
[00:53] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: got a sec for quilt help? i have to redo the patch and not sure how with wuilt
[00:53] <gnomefreak> cooler: use a new profile see if it fixes it
[00:53] <Ubulette> cooler, and have a look at the Error Console
[00:53] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, sure
[00:53] <gnomefreak> cooler: if not file a bug and give output when you try to do what you are when ran in terminal
[00:54] <cooler> gnomefreak:  I'll try that one
[00:54] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: ok in mozilla i do quilt work right?
[00:54] <gnomefreak> im assuming its not quilt-edit-patch
[00:54] <cooler> gnomefreak:
[00:54] <cooler> Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'display'.  Declaration dropped.
[00:54] <cooler> Source File: https://addons.mozilla.org/css/rustico.css
[00:54] <cooler> Line: 694
[00:54] <gnomefreak> cooler: can you install any extentions?
[00:54] <gnomefreak> try some normal ones
[00:54] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, no, from the root dir, ie, from where you do dpkg-buildpackage
[00:55] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: ok there
[00:55] <cooler> gnomefreak: not a single one
[00:55] <gnomefreak> cooler: try some none css ones
[00:55] <gnomefreak> non
[00:55] <cooler> gnomefreak: like?
[00:56] <gnomefreak> cooler: what extensions are install atm
[00:57] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: how do i edit patches or redo patches with quilt
[00:57] <cooler> gnomefreak: those from addons.mmozilla.org like update notifier
[00:57]  * gnomefreak just got used to dpatch
[00:57] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, push or pop as many times as needed to add your patch at the right place in the series, then, quilt new yourname.patch ; quilt add some/file ; edit some/file; (you can add other files too); then quilt refresh
[00:57] <gnomefreak> cooler: make life easy run firefox from terminal using firefox -safe-mode than try to add them
[00:58] <_mastro_> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[00:58] <_mastro_> Cannot remove breakpoints because program is no longer writable.
[00:58] <_mastro_> It might be running in another process.
[00:58] <_mastro_> Further execution is probably impossible.
[00:58] <_mastro_> 0xb6911962 in g_SJISMappingTable ()
[00:58] <_mastro_>    from /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/components/libuconv.so
[00:58] <_mastro_> sorry if i didn't use a pastebin
[00:58] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: it could be late can you say that in english?
[00:58] <cooler> gnomefreak: I'll try that one now
[00:58] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: Ubulette this are the error
[00:58] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: and cooler please use pastebin as im trying to fix something and need input from Ubulette
[00:59] <gnomefreak> cooler: if it works remove all extenstions and start over or forget thaqt profile and make another one. if it fails to help file a bug
[00:59] <cooler> gnomefreak: Ok, thx
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: example what is right place in series
[01:00] <gnomefreak> i thought were it is was fine
[01:00] <Ubulette> patches are applied in the order of the series
[01:01] <Ubulette> so it doesn't matter if patches touches the same file, the order is always the same
[01:02] <gnomefreak> its above autoconf
[01:02] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/232822
[01:02] <gnomefreak> thats the series
[01:02] <Ubulette> so if the series is already applied (quilt applied), pop a few times until you find the proper place to add your patch
[01:03] <gnomefreak> (Sid)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/debian/work/iceowl-0.x$ quilt applied
[01:03] <gnomefreak> No patches in series
[01:03] <gnomefreak> wtf?
[01:03] <Ubulette> so push then
[01:03] <gnomefreak> with -f?
[01:03] <Ubulette> no
[01:03] <gnomefreak> still no patches in series
[01:03] <Ubulette> hmm
[01:04] <gnomefreak> yet i gave you the series file
[01:04] <Ubulette> you cleaned before ?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> are you sure i shouldnt be in debian/patches?
[01:04] <Ubulette> i'm sure
[01:04] <gnomefreak> bzr cleans
[01:04] <Ubulette> ok
[01:04] <Ubulette> ln -s debian/patches
[01:04] <Ubulette> then push
[01:04] <gnomefreak> cleaning debian dir other than trying fakeroot debian/rules clean
[01:04] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: Ubulette here the log of the debug http://pastebin.com/f1187a98b
[01:05] <_mastro_> do you have any idea?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> no output
[01:05] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: you still havent filed a bug?
[01:05] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: nope
[01:05] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: cause they probably will say: "upgrade"
[01:05] <_mastro_> but i can't
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: make sure tbird isnt running in ps aux (killall the app) than try again
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: no feisty is supported and we work on the bugs
[01:06] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: but it makes llife alot easier if you file a bug, if you dont file a bug it wont get fixed at all
[01:07] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: but i haven't upgraded feisty :) i'm using a snapshot of 18/08/2007
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: push gave me something
[01:07] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: that's because this is a computer that stay off-line and can't connect
[01:07] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: thats your fault none elses and yes upgrade your feisty install or deal with it crashing
[01:08] <_mastro_> i've it now to fix some problem.. upgrading to last version means re-download / re-burn all the dvd
[01:08] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: hint download with another pc and write to usb stick or cdrom
[01:08] <gnomefreak> no it doesnt see above
[01:08] <_mastro_> ?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ok autoconfig patch is what i have maybe i should run autoconf than move conf file first before continueing
[01:09] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: did you understand what i've said?
[01:09] <_mastro_> O_o
[01:09] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: packages.ubuntu.com find the latest version for feisty and download it and install it either to usbstick or cdrom or if pc is online
[01:10] <gnomefreak> dvd has nothing to do with it
[01:10] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i've created a mirror of the whole archive from 18/08/2007
[01:10] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: if you dont run the latest mozilla security release we cant help yopu
[01:10] <_mastro_> and burned it on 4 dvd
[01:10] <gnomefreak> that was over 2 months ago
[01:11] <_mastro_> if i upgrade a single deb now i have to redownload the repo and burn it again
[01:11] <gnomefreak> if you cant do as suggested your likely not going to get help since your crash is very possible already fixed upstream
[01:11] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: you don't understand: it's a computer that need all the repository programs but don't have internet connection
[01:11] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, don't do multiple patches at the same time. don't touch the configure one now. just travel through your series with push and pop and insert your new patch in there. if it works, move it to bzr then commit, then you can come back to your configure patch if needed
[01:12] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i know.. but if you can help me a bit understanding what happening i will try to solve it myself
[01:12] <gnomefreak> cant the first patch in series fails to apply due to not running autoconf2.13 as you have to do with new versions
[01:13] <gnomefreak> _the debugger didnt give you anything to go on other than another instance is running hence the make sure its not running in ps aux comment i made above
[01:13] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: the problem is with that libuconv.so right? at a function called SKISMappingTable()
[01:13] <gnomefreak> #
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> #
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Cannot remove breakpoints because program is no longer writable.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> #
[01:13] <_mastro_> SJISMappingTable()
[01:13] <gnomefreak> It might be running in another process.
[01:13] <gnomefreak> #
[01:14] <gnomefreak> Further execution is probably impossible.
[01:14] <gnomefreak> #
[01:14] <gnomefreak> 0xb6911962 in g_SJISMappingTable ()
[01:14] <gnomefreak> # from /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/components/libuconv.so
[01:14] <gnomefreak> #
[01:14] <gnomefreak> (gdb) quit
[01:14] <gnomefreak> #
[01:14] <gnomefreak> The program is running.  Exit anyway? (y or n)
[01:14] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: read above
[01:14] <gnomefreak> it gives nothing like what you giving
[01:14] <_mastro_> readed.. may be i can do some more command with gdb?
[01:14] <_mastro_> never used it
[01:14] <gnomefreak> so either i dont have full backtrace  (the right one) or you are getting that somewhere else
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> (gdb) run
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> Starting program: /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird-bin
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [New Thread -1220715760 (LWP 14029)]
[01:15] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, no, you're just doing patching, not building so autoconf doesn't matter at that stage (remember it's always the *last* patch, there's a reason for that)
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [New Thread -1223418992 (LWP 14032)]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [New Thread -1235674224 (LWP 14034)]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [New Thread -1258853488 (LWP 14036)]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [Thread -1223418992 (LWP 14032) exited]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [Thread -1258853488 (LWP 14036) exited]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:15] <gnomefreak> [Thread -1235674224 (LWP 14034) exited]
[01:15] <gnomefreak> #
[01:16] <gnomefreak> [New process 14029]
[01:16] <gnomefreak> #
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Registering Enigmail account manager extension.
[01:16] <gnomefreak> #
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Enigmail account manager extension registered.
[01:16] <gnomefreak> #
[01:16] <gnomefreak> DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 [New LWP 14029]
[01:16] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: read that tell me wher eyou got what you did
[01:16] <gnomefreak> (Sid)gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/debian/work/iceowl-0.x$ quilt push
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Applying patch stable-fsh
[01:16] <gnomefreak> can't find file to patch at input line 9
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> The text leading up to this was:
[01:16] <gnomefreak> --------------------------
[01:16] <gnomefreak> |---
[01:16] <gnomefreak> | config/autoconf.mk.in |    8 ++++----
[01:16] <gnomefreak> | 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
[01:16] <gnomefreak> |
[01:16] <gnomefreak> |Index: mozilla/config/autoconf.mk.in
[01:16] <gnomefreak> |[01:16] <gnomefreak> |--- mozilla.orig/config/autoconf.mk.in 2007-04-04 18:45:15.000000000 +0200
[01:16] <gnomefreak> |+++ mozilla/config/autoconf.mk.in      2007-04-04 18:45:17.000000000 +0200
 _mastro_: read that tell me wher eyou got what you did « ? i've did nothing special
[01:16] <gnomefreak> --------------------------
[01:16] <gnomefreak> No file to patch.  Skipping patch.
[01:17] <gnomefreak> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Patch stable-fsh does not apply (enforce with -f)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> that is what i get so push again will change this?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> no it doesnt
[01:17] <gnomefreak> push is stuck on that patch its the first one in the series
[01:17] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: what you said the problem is IS NOT in the pastebin that you gave us
[01:17] <gnomefreak> why do you assume that the things you posted have anything to do with the crash
[01:18] <gnomefreak> everything AFTER run is what is most important. did you happen to try and make it crash after you typed run?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> did it crash?>
[01:18] <gnomefreak> it says it did but only because it thinks there is another process running
[01:19] <gnomefreak> notice what you see if after that part
[01:19] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i've launched gdb it reach the line 38 without anything wrong.. i can see thunderbird and use it
[01:19] <gnomefreak> make sure all processes of tbird are dead before running it again
[01:19] <_mastro_> if i try to open a folder
[01:19] <_mastro_> it crash
[01:20] <_mastro_> now i got something different they are 7 lines
[01:20] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: make sure all tbird are dead and run it again if you get same please attach the debug output and log file in /var/crash for tbird to a bug report
[01:21] <_mastro_> http://pastebin.com/f39b14a7
[01:21] <gnomefreak> and again your not listening to what i said.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> atleast this time they were dead but that is all you get?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: that doesnt look like ubuntu build issue please make sure you have latest redering engine see line 4 in your post.
[01:22] <gnomefreak> rendering
[01:23] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: gecko is the rendering engine (hint mozilla upstream issue)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> its possibile it is caused by a extension/addon but doesnt look like it
[01:23] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: does it fail in safe mode?
[01:24] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i've readed your words :) how can i launch it in safe mode?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: mozilla-thunderbird -safe-mode?
[01:24] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: and... can have something to do with opengl?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> if not try to use a new profile
[01:24] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: how do you figure?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: feisty doesnt use opengl
[01:25] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: this problem started after i've installed some package... they was a lot of packages
[01:25] <gnomefreak> if your using beryl/compiz that is something i would shut off but doesnt look like the cause
[01:25] <_mastro_> opengl, kdevelop
[01:25] <_mastro_> no not using beryl/compiz/fusion
[01:25] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: unless using opengl screensavers what else would use opengl?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> afaik that is stricky 3d
[01:26] <gnomefreak> strickly
[01:26] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: nothing is using opengl.. i've installed some packages and thunderbird started to crash
[01:27] <_mastro_> i thought it was related.. but i was hoping to find out where the problem was without removing all the packages
[01:27] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: than find out what you installed and go back to not having them, but from what you have showed me neither of those packages would cause that crash
[01:28] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: 1. file bug 2. run it with new profile to see if works 3 remove apps one by one until you find right one. out of the 3 choices number 1 is easiest fastest way to find out
[01:28] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: oh 4. update to latest version in feisty
[01:28] <_mastro_> 1) i will, 2) already tried 3) that's suck.. but i will 4) can't sorry :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: if you fail to do any of these or wish not to than help is very slim
[01:29] <_mastro_> what slim mean?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: 4. might be  amust
[01:29] <_mastro_> here the list of files: http://pastebin.com/fd23d1a4
[01:29] <gnomefreak> slim almost not there
[01:29] <gnomefreak> !info mozilla-thunderbird feisty
[01:29] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0.13+1.5.0.14b-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10666 kB, installed size 29772 kB
[01:29] <gnomefreak> _your way off
[01:30] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: upgrade it
[01:30] <gnomefreak> than try again
[01:30] <_mastro_> i cant'
[01:30] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: you are way too far back to beable to find the issue
[01:30] <_mastro_> sorry
[01:30] <gnomefreak> _mastro_: dont be sorry to me mine works
[01:30] <_mastro_> i'll change client
[01:30] <_mastro_> no prob
[01:31] <gnomefreak> thats up to you but the reason for the security releases is because they contain fixes that might otherwise leave you unstable. they dont support .10 once .11 is released and so on
[01:32] <_mastro_> gnomefreak: i know but as i explained you this used to work before and i absolutely can't upgrade it
[01:32] <gnomefreak> if upstream issue on 10 it was most likely fixed in 11 12 13 or beta 14 (and im not sure why b 14 since 13 was final in 1.5 series
[01:32] <gnomefreak> _than there isnt much we can do
[01:33] <gnomefreak> anyone with any bug experence will tell you the same thing
[01:34] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: im heading to bed ill work more on this tomorrow i hope once im done fixing car if i can get the part
[01:34] <Ubulette> ok, night
[13:47] <asac> anyone here?
[13:47] <asac> :)
[14:12] <asac> hey :)
[14:13] <Ubulette> hi
[14:13] <Ubulette> asac, still in the us ?
[14:14] <asac> yeah .... for another week :(
[14:14]  * asac wanna go home
[14:14] <Ubulette> lol
[14:14] <asac> at least today i am not completely booked with sessions
[14:14] <asac> just one
[14:14] <Ubulette> no fun ?
[14:15] <asac> currently working to write down how my personal bug monkey helpers could work .... because i just cannot really deal with all these bugs by just using launchpad
[14:15] <asac> well its definitly fun :)
[14:15] <asac> but i just don't get anything done
[14:16] <asac> and i have to catch up on all this after this
[14:16] <asac> which isn't really fun
[14:16] <Ubulette> :)
[14:16] <Ubulette> personal bug monkey helpers ? what's that ?
[14:16] <asac> especially given that i want to do holidays after uds sometimes
[14:17] <asac> well ... i want to improve how i process bugs
[14:17] <asac> i am still not sure how it should work but want commands like .... bug-pushback 7days
[14:17] <asac> bug-current
[14:17] <asac> bug-pop
[14:17] <asac> and something and always get the next bug
[14:18] <asac> further i want to mark comments as worthless so if i look at them later i just see the relevant comments
[14:19] <asac> my mainproblem is that i just forget to revisit some bugs ... which is why i want to be automatically reminded after a certain amount of time to look again
[14:20] <asac> but its just a bunch of ideas i need to sort out ... currently writing use-cases so i get a clearer vision of what i actually want
[14:21] <Ubulette> you mentioned an API for lp earlier, any pointer ?
[14:21] <asac> yeah ... its launchpad-bugs-python package
[14:22] <asac> i will usethat and hope that the guy doing this will keep up with launchpad changes that just happen every now and then and break the HTML parsing
[14:22] <asac> ... at least until launchpad provides XML-RPC
[14:25] <asac> Ubulette: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/API_changes/BugListExample
[14:26] <asac> there are otherexamples in the wiki ... don't ask me why those are not included in the python package
[14:28]  * asac goind for a smoke
[14:34] <Ubulette> if that module is not maintained, that's probably not the right thing to start with. no idea though
[14:47] <Ubulette> asac, I'm still getting "Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/components/libpyloader.so" and "Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/components/pyabout.py"
[14:48] <asac> which modules?
[14:48] <Ubulette> that's in ff3 console
[14:48] <asac> python-launchpad-bugs is maintained ...
[14:49] <asac> Ubulette: do you have a debug build?
[14:49] <asac> maybe that gives more information on the terminal?
[14:49] <Ubulette> so far, 'im fighting with Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Index or size is negative or greater than the allowed amount"  code: "1" nsresult: "0x80530001 (NS_ERROR_DOM_INDEX_SIZE_ERR)"  location: "chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 219"]
[14:50] <Ubulette> supposed to be fixed in trunk
[14:50] <Ubulette> tabs are totally broken
[14:53] <asac> hmm
[14:53] <asac> where is that called from? browser.js
[14:54] <Ubulette> the tabbrowser bug is fresh (kind of regression from 2~3 days ago)
[14:55] <Ubulette> i'll just rebuild and see if it's really gone
[14:55] <asac> lets look atbonsai :)
[14:55] <asac> oh ... ok
[14:55] <Ubulette> Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'width'.  Declaration dropped.
[14:55] <Ubulette> Source File: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/
[14:55] <Ubulette> Line: 0
[14:55] <Ubulette> Warning: Unknown property 'word-wrap'.  Declaration dropped.
[14:55] <Ubulette> Source File: https://edge.launchpad.net/+icing/rev5132/+style-slimmer.css
[14:55] <Ubulette> Line: 3
[14:56] <Ubulette> do you have that in ff2 too ?
[14:57] <Ubulette> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Access to property denied"  code: "1010" nsresult: "0x805303f2 (NS_ERROR_DOM_PROP_ACCESS_DENIED)"  location: "<unknown>"]
[14:57] <Ubulette> hmm
[14:58] <asac> loooking
[14:59] <asac> i don't get that exception
[14:59] <asac> but i get the warnings
[14:59] <asac> Warning: Unknown property 'word-wrap'.  Declaration dropped.
[14:59] <asac> Source File: https://edge.launchpad.net/+icing/rev5132/+style-slimmer.css
[14:59] <asac> same for height, display, width
[15:02] <asac> so is the tabbrowser thing gone
[15:05] <Ubulette> i don't know yet
[15:07] <Ubulette> asac, do you have an idea for miro : ImportError: /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/miro/MozillaBrowser.so: undefined symbol: _ZN12nsCharTraitsIcE12sEmptyBufferE
[15:08] <Ubulette> not sure if it's an internal symbol in xul or something else
[15:08] <Ubulette> maybe something deprecated in 1.9
[15:11] <asac> hmm
[15:11] <asac> when was that so build?
[15:12] <Ubulette> it's part of miro
[15:12] <asac> is that in gutsy?
[15:13] <Ubulette> hm, gutsy has an old one. this one is in my ppa and in bzr.
[15:13] <asac> looks like that symbol isn't available in 1.9
[15:14] <asac> so it either isn't just prepared for 1.9 ... or maybe build for 1.8
[15:21] <Ubulette> sure, but I wanted to port miro to 1.9
[15:21] <Ubulette> so i've missed something for sure, but what ?
[15:24] <asac> yeah
[15:24] <asac> that symbol appears to be not there in 1.9 ... maybe its hidden ... maybe it has been removed
[15:29] <Ubulette> problem is, this symbol is not used by miro, at least no directly
[15:29] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1611/
[15:30] <asac> hmm
[15:30] <asac> does miro use static glue?
[15:33] <Ubulette> hmm, don't think so. I used XPCOM_GLUE (part of pkg-config --cflags libxul-embedding-1.9) and XPCOM_GLUE_USE_NSPR
[15:38] <asac> do you use the same for libs? e.g. pkg-config --libs ... ?
[15:38] <asac> maybe read this: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XPCOM_Glue
[15:38] <asac> his is typically done using GRE_GetGREPathWithProperties. Then, the code must call XPCOMGlueStartup,
[15:38] <asac> does miro do that?
[15:39] <Ubulette> no
[15:39] <asac> it needs to  ... otherwise the libs are not loaded from what i know ... and thus no symbols are there
[15:41] <asac> when getting the gre path use 1.9.* as maxversion so upgrades should succeeed
[15:55] <Ubulette> hmm. i don't know how to do that in a lib
[15:58] <asac> Ubulette: isn't there code that is run during lib initialization?
[15:59] <asac> otherwise you need to add that to the entry function and only do it when it get called for first time ... e.g. like singleton in OO
[16:03] <asac> Ubulette: ok i think you have to add an init_lib function or something to the MozillaBrowserXPCOM.cc file and call that in constructor of MOzillaBrowser.pyx
[16:04] <asac> you probably can initialized the glue in pyx directory ... but I have no idea about pyx so personally i would add it to .cc and only do minimal things to that crazy file
[16:07] <asac> smoke
[16:18] <Ubulette> I can't figure out where to do that :P
[16:18] <Ubulette> MozillaBrowser.pyx seems to be the place
[16:27] <asac> Ubulette: add a plain .cc function to MozillaBrowserXPCOM.cc and then call that in constructor of MOzillarowser.pyx (imo)
[16:27] <Ubulette> asac, in pyx, when it does import gtkmozembed, it's 1.8 right ?
[16:28] <asac> hmm ... right ... maybe the main issue is that gtkmozembed uses 1.8
[16:29] <asac> but we should definitly migrate that anyways
[16:33] <asac> lets see
[16:33] <asac> its apt-get source python-gnome2-extras-dev
[16:39] <asac> i wonder how i can pass --define-variable=includetype=unstable ... to the PKG_CHECK_MODULES macro
[16:39] <asac> its needed to get the gtkmozembed.h header
[16:40] <Ubulette> I faked that in miro
[16:41] <Ubulette> i've pushed my (incomplete) patch to a new branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/democracy/miro.trunk.xul1.9
[16:42] <Ubulette> bluekuja, if you're in contact with the miro guys, plz ask to to request a rename of the project on lp.
[16:42] <Ubulette> s/to to/them to/
[16:51] <asac> hmm ... what happened to gtk_moz_embed_push_startup ?
[16:51] <asac> Ubulette: ^ ?
[16:51] <asac> is there an equivalent?
[16:54] <asac> strange .. its not there ... but in the header
[16:56] <Ubulette> tb 2009 has some security fixes
[16:57] <Ubulette> asac, i don't know, maybe ask your moz friends
[16:58] <asac> ;)
[16:58] <asac> Ubulette: is tb 2009 out?
[16:58] <Ubulette> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/rumblingedge/archives/2007/11/tb_2-0-0-9.html
[16:58] <Ubulette> not yet
[16:59] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 386874
[16:59] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 386874 in Build Config "add a python emulation for nsinstall for --disable-compile-environment" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386874
[17:01] <Ubulette> Sunbird 0.8
[17:01] <Ubulette> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/rumblingedge/archives/2007/11/20071101_sunbird_08_builds.html
[17:15] <asac> i will stop working here ... it doesn't make sense ... people just don't stop to unplug my notebook and it just goes off .... battery is broken
[17:15] <asac> :(
[17:21] <Ubulette> too bad. i was hoping you'll help with that python mess
[17:26] <asac> yeah ... i am still on it ... but close to throwing in the towel
[17:37] <bluekuja> asac: are you up for a verlihub new upstream release?
[17:38] <Ubulette> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/11/01/firefox-2009-stability-update-now-available-for-download/
[17:39] <bluekuja> Ubulette, unfortunately I have no contacts with them :/
[17:50] <Ubulette> http://vocamus.net/dave/?p=85  :)
[17:52] <Ubulette> hmm. "Beware of the latest Linux versions: there is a bug in GTK2 2.12.x which causes crashes in (among others) Firefox and Thunderbird. The fix exists but as of this writing it hasn't landed yet."
[17:52] <Ubulette> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482531
[17:52] <ubotu> Gnome bug 482531 in gdk "firefox crashed on print preview [@IA__gdk_window_get_toplevel] [@gdk_window_is_toplevel_frozen]" [Critical,New]
[17:54] <asac> Ubulette: we have the patch for that bug
[17:54] <asac> at lesat i think
[17:55] <bluekuja> asac: I have a dgettable url for that...
[17:55] <bluekuja> unfortunately upstream included some bad junk
[17:55] <bluekuja> like .dep files
[17:55] <bluekuja> in the latest orig
[17:56] <bluekuja> I'll try to ping them for not inlcuding such stuff for next releases..
[17:56] <asac> bluekuja: yeah ... thats unfortunate
[17:56] <bluekuja> I don't know why upstreams
[17:56] <bluekuja> doesnt want to cooperate with distros
[17:56] <bluekuja> that's crazy
[17:57] <bluekuja> asac: I was talking with pkern about having it uploaded, and he said he doesnt want to sign an upload with .orig like that...
[17:58] <asac> yeah ... please figure it out ;)
[17:58] <asac> we have to be hard on that
[17:58] <bluekuja> asac: deleting them manually?
[17:58] <asac> otherwise upstream will never leran
[17:58] <bluekuja> is it possible to do?
[17:58] <asac> well .. in the end its your decision ...
[17:59] <asac> its certainly possible, but you need to add some tag that shows that this is not a pristine upstream version
[17:59] <bluekuja> yes, adding something like
[17:59] <bluekuja> +nodepsfile
[17:59] <bluekuja> or +nojunk
[17:59] <bluekuja> explaining it the changelog
[18:00] <bluekuja> asac: let me do it, when done I ping you with the dgettable url
[18:01] <bluekuja> so you can give it a look
[18:02] <asac> yeah ... you can also ask pkern then i guess ;)
[18:02] <asac> in case i am not avail
[18:03] <bluekuja> well, I would prefer to have you on it since we did the first release together :)
[18:03] <bluekuja> gonna ping you in a while
[18:03] <bluekuja> deleting those damn files
[18:11] <Ubulette> bluekuja, i've applied to miro-launchpad-maintainers, let's see if there's someone active in there
[18:11] <bluekuja> Ubulette, great :)
[18:13] <bluekuja> asac: is 0.9.8d~rc2+nocruftsnocvs-1 fine?
[18:14] <bluekuja> actually I've removed CVS dirs too
[18:14] <bluekuja> not needed and lintian is happy
[18:14] <bluekuja> as well
[18:18] <bluekuja> asac: changelog updated, dirs removed, just need to wait you to confirm the versioning I proposed above
[18:20] <asac> Ubulette: Internal linkage will be unavailable to extension authors in XULRunner 1.9 (Firefox 3) because the nonfrozen symbols will not be exported from libxul. Extension and application authors currently using internal linkage should read the guide on Migrating from Internal Linkage to Frozen Linkage.
[18:20] <asac> so apparently there is not C-only embedder API available and we need to migrate to use the frozen browser components
[18:21] <asac> thats unfortunate
[18:22] <bluekuja> asac: fine for you?
[18:22] <bluekuja> or you have some other ideas
[18:22] <asac> what?
[18:22] <bluekuja> 0.9.8d~rc2+nocruftsnocvs-1
[18:22] <asac> i have no ideas ;)
[18:22] <bluekuja> is it fine?
[18:22] <asac> i am completely into something else atm :-/
[18:22] <bluekuja> lol :D
[18:22] <asac> yeah
[18:22] <bluekuja> ok, great
[18:23] <asac> maybe +antiupstreammonkeytarup ;)
[18:23] <bluekuja> :D
[18:23] <bluekuja> I gonna get flamed from upstream
[18:23] <bluekuja> then
[18:23] <bluekuja> ehehe
[18:52] <bluekuja> asac: http://incoming.ibluepaper.com/verlihub_0.9.8d~rc2+nocruftsnocvs-1.dsc
[18:52] <gnomefreak> having sslight hardy issues
[18:52] <bluekuja> asac: dgettable url ready :)
[18:53] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: did you get a chance to push iceape?
[18:53] <gnomefreak> not like i can use it :(
[18:54] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, point me to the revu page again please, was pretty busy last week :)
[18:54] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: i cant
[18:54] <gnomefreak> i dont have X
[18:54] <bluekuja> lol
[18:54] <Ubulette> damn; libgcrypt11-dev moved some libs from /usr/lib in gutsy to /lib in hardy
[18:54] <gnomefreak> someone fudged up last week
[18:54] <gnomefreak> removed all X packages during upgrade
[18:54] <gnomefreak> now missing all kinds of depends
[18:54] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, found
[18:55] <gnomefreak> aptitude cant fix it
[18:55] <gnomefreak> ty
[18:55] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, never accept dist upgrade in hardy.
[18:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[18:55] <Ubulette> X is incomplete at the moment
[18:55] <gnomefreak> if i did it it wouldnt have happened
[18:56] <gnomefreak> my girlfriend thought she was doing me a favor :(
[18:56] <bluekuja> lol
[18:56] <Ubulette> I got partial upgrade today too, i rejected it as usual. no problem
[18:56] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, W: iceape source: source-contains-bzr-control-dir .bzr
[18:57] <bluekuja> Ubulette, PPA got lppa now?
[18:57] <bluekuja> *lppa support
[18:57]  * gnomefreak wonders if i can use -i.bzr in bzr builddeb
[18:57] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, it should be inside orig tarball
[18:57] <bluekuja> *should'nt
[18:57] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: sorry i will respin it next week sometime
[18:58] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: it shouldnt be in tar\
[18:58] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, ok, great
[18:58] <bluekuja> yep
[18:58] <Ubulette> bluekuja, lpia, yes
[18:58] <bluekuja> Ubulette, when it got annunced?
[18:58] <Ubulette> never
[18:58] <gnomefreak> no i mean it shouldnt as it it shouldnt like i didnt put it there its becasue i didnt use -i.bzr
[18:59] <Ubulette> wtf    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 64672 Sep 11 18:14 /lib/klibc-lASvnk07aNkfPyCauZ-jxAx49Jk.so
[18:59] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, true :9
[18:59] <bluekuja> :)
[18:59] <bluekuja> Ubulette, how did you notice that?
[18:59] <Ubulette> bluekuja, what ? lpia ?
[19:00] <bluekuja> yep
[19:00] <Ubulette> just because i use my ppa a lot
[19:00] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: ill fix it  asap matter of fact i might beable to do it today (i dont need X)
[19:00] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, yep
[19:00] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, you dont need X for that
[19:00] <bluekuja> :)
[19:00] <gnomefreak> i know
[19:00] <bluekuja> Ubulette, ok great
[19:00] <bluekuja> great news
[19:00] <bluekuja> :)
[19:01] <Ubulette> is there a policy for /lib vs /usr/lib ?
[19:01] <bluekuja> for packaging?
[19:02] <bluekuja> Ubulette, https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/+build/431844
[19:02] <bluekuja> it seems it failed on lpia :P
[19:02] <bluekuja> why changes file are not available'
[19:02] <bluekuja> ?
[19:03] <bluekuja> ah true, if it FTBFS
[19:03] <Ubulette> just a missing dep
[19:03] <bluekuja> it doesnt get the .changes with dpkg-genchanges
[19:03] <Ubulette> nss/nspr are not built yet
[19:04] <Ubulette> i'm waiting for those two on lpia to retrigger the build
[19:07] <gnomefreak>  bluekuja ok started build again not sure if -i.bzr will work but it should be fine
[19:07] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, I guess so
[19:07] <Ubulette> bluekuja, are you interested by seamonkey2 or by lpia ?
[19:07] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: it has in the past with dpkg-buildpackage
[19:07] <bluekuja> Ubulette, lpia
[19:07] <bluekuja> :)
[19:07] <gnomefreak>  ill be back soon to push it to revu
[19:09] <Ubulette> bluekuja, what for ? you own one ?
[19:09] <bluekuja> Ubulette, nope, was curious about the new feature
[19:10] <bluekuja> added
[19:14] <gnomefreak> asac: im stuck on iceowl atm but i will look at it again on monday i hope. i was put on pills for pain yesterday and i would like to be thinking clearly for that. im fine atm but will see
[19:16] <asac> Ubulette: ok i try to update the package now ... at least python builds now
[19:16] <Ubulette> which package ?
[19:17] <Ubulette> (i'm fighting with rhythmbox now)
[19:18] <asac> the python thing
[19:18] <gnomefreak> ok pushing now
[19:18] <asac> gnome-python-extras
[19:18] <gnomefreak> asac: when are you going home from boston?
[19:18] <Ubulette> i fixed a python issue in rhythmbox, now i ftbfs because of libgcrypt11-dev in hardy
[19:18] <asac> which we then can use
[19:18] <asac> fo the other thing you wanted to do
[19:18] <asac> import gtkmozembed ... remember?
[19:18] <gnomefreak> oh god no
[19:19] <Ubulette> asac, yep. what did you do ?
[19:19] <gnomefreak> not gtkmozembed if we dont HAVE to :(
[19:19] <Ubulette> hehe
[19:19] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, it's for miro
[19:19] <asac> Ubulette: i made a cpp file out of it and included the _glue.cpp file
[19:19] <gnomefreak> hasnt there been some bad bugs with that
[19:20] <gnomefreak> miro isnt moz. app is it?
[19:20] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, i'm porting miro to xul 1.9 so i need a working python gtkmozembed 1.9
[19:20] <asac> gnomefreak: with xul 1.9 and standalone glue all will be better
[19:20] <gnomefreak> asac: cool
[19:20] <gnomefreak> miro is new name for?
[19:20] <gnomefreak> cant remember
[19:20] <Ubulette> democracy
[19:20] <asac> I HATE THIS PACKAGE :)
[19:20] <Ubulette> democracy-player in ubuntu
[19:21] <Ubulette> asac, why ?
[19:21] <asac> it just forgot about my Makefile.am changees
[19:21] <asac> don't ask me why
[19:21] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: its not moz based why would xul help that?
[19:21] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, it is
[19:22] <Ubulette> it uses firefox-dev in gutsy
[19:22] <gnomefreak> it is? i could have sworn it was qt appbut that might be that big player/mixer im thinking of
[19:23] <gnomefreak> ah rosegarden
[19:23] <gnomefreak> that is the qt based one
[19:23] <asac> ok it was the damn dbg package build which used the old configure options
[19:23] <asac> lets see
[19:23] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, it's not a player/mixer, it's a kind free tv a la podcast
[19:23] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[19:24] <Jazzva> asac, can I clean some packaging mistakes (like remaining backup files (*~)) in the merge process?
[19:24] <asac> Ubulette: i can give you a diffof the relevant code configure.ac andcode bits ... i currently don't get this package updated
[19:24] <asac> it just again forgot about my updated 99_ patch
[19:24] <Jazzva> Or should I submit another bug?
[19:25] <asac> Jazzva: sure .. at least if they are in the diff.gz
[19:25] <asac> if they are in the orig.tar.gz you can probably keep them
[19:25] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: it should be posted soon ~1hour at the most but shouldnt take nearly that long if my gf gets the hell off the windows pc, shes downloading crap again
[19:25] <asac> Ubulette: i am doing a break now ... i will retry afterwards ... starting from scratch
[19:25] <Jazzva> asac: I don't think they are in orig.tar.gz, but I'll check. Thanks.
[19:25] <asac> otherwise i will let seb do it who created this mess
[19:26] <asac> ok out for a break
[19:26] <Ubulette> asac, if you finish it, perfect. otherwise, send me your changes, i'll see what I can do
[19:26] <Jazzva> asac: Have fun...
[19:27] <Ubulette> asac, fyi, my tabbrowser issues in ff3 are fixed.
[19:30]  * gnomefreak might spend time on gutsy next week since i should still have X there, maybe if i get the balls to try and chroot into hardy to grab folders
[19:33] <gnomefreak> ill be back later i need to rest today has be hell with my stomach(sp)
[19:33] <Ubulette> bug 139635
[19:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139635 in libgpg-error "[cryptsetup] library dependency in /sbin/cryptsetup" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139635
[19:33] <Ubulette> damn, i was gonna report this as a bug, it's a fix
[19:54] <asac> Ubulette: have another session ... then wiill try to clean things up and so on
[19:54] <Ubulette> ok
[19:54] <Ubulette> enjoy your session
[19:54] <Ubulette> i'll try to see if sound is better ;)
[20:44] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle: around?
[20:44] <JenFraggle> for a bit
[20:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm looking at the bughelper clue file for Fx
[20:46] <Admiral_Chicago> do you still have the bzr branch?
[20:46] <JenFraggle> yes, i tend to look at the wrong tag/status bugs
[20:48] <JenFraggle> haven't done any with gutsy so assume it is still working
[20:49] <Admiral_Chicago> if you want, I can run it locally, see what kind of output I get
[20:50] <JenFraggle> just tested and i'm getting bugs coming up so guess it is still ok
[20:51] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, maybe some of the bugs are closed now and out of date. is this the case in the clue file?
[20:52] <JenFraggle> how would it be reflected?
[20:54] <JenFraggle> i need to bzr update don't i?
[20:54] <JenFraggle> to get the up to date clue?
[20:54] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[20:55] <JenFraggle> doesn't seem to be working for me.  It doesn't like my passphrase
[20:55] <JenFraggle> i do need to change my key though as i have a new email address
[20:56] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, well I'm pulling the branch now, lets see if it likes me.
[20:56] <JenFraggle> ok
[20:59] <Admiral_Chicago> it does: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bugsquad/bughelper-data/main
[21:00] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, lol
[21:00] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, :D
[21:00] <JenFraggle> hmm
[21:00] <JenFraggle> not much good if i can't get the up to date file
[21:02] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: fixed?
[21:03] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, still W: iceape source: source-contains-bzr-control-dir .bzr
[21:03] <Admiral_Chicago> that is the most up to date on
[21:04] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, you should delete it manually the
[21:04] <bluekuja> n
[21:04] <Jazzva> bluekuja: I agree with that... Or try to build with bzr build (or however it goes :))
[21:04] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: im going to im wondering how it got in there
[21:04] <JenFraggle> is that doing the same as bzr update?
[21:04] <Admiral_Chicago> JenFraggle: I'll look at it tonight when I have more time, then we can talk on improving it some more
[21:05] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[21:05] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, same here :)
[21:05] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: ok ill find it and retar it
[21:05] <bluekuja> Jazzva, using bzr bd wont work
[21:05] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm just branching the latest code, it you have that branch already and do bzr up, we will be in sync
[21:05] <bluekuja> or well, it will work but bzr dir will be inside again?
[21:05] <JenFraggle> handy to know, i know so little about what i'm doing.  i tend to stick to the really simple stuff and leave the complicated stuff to you guys
[21:05] <bluekuja> (inside orig tarball?
[21:05] <bluekuja> )
[21:05] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: if i used mozclient to build tar than that is the issue but i think i used rules to generate it
[21:05] <Jazzva> bluekuja: .bzr dir is inside orig tarball?
[21:05] <bluekuja> Jazzva, yep
[21:06] <bluekuja> that's the problem atm
[21:06] <Jazzva> bluekuja: That's weird...
[21:06] <bluekuja> Jazzva, yeah, but gnomefreak is uploading a package which contains .bzr
[21:06]  * gnomefreak wonders how rules file added .bzr
[21:06] <bluekuja> and lintian is not really happy
[21:06] <Jazzva> Seems like a developers mistake... (just like I use to forget backup files *~) :)
[21:06] <gnomefreak> lintian is never happy
[21:07] <Jazzva> lol
[21:07] <JenFraggle> Admiral_Chicago: I'm off to bed now so won't be able to do anymore today.  If you email me then I'll look at it tomorrow if you like?
[21:07] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, lol
[21:07] <bluekuja> :D
[21:08] <Admiral_Chicago> i will
[21:08] <Admiral_Chicago> night JenFraggle
[21:08] <JenFraggle> night
[21:08] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: its being fixed
[21:09] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, ok, let me know when pushed
[21:09] <gnomefreak> ok
[21:11] <gnomefreak> what is the command to tar it back up the one i used tared it up but i couldnt untar it
[21:12] <gnomefreak> i used cvvf
[21:12] <bluekuja> tar zxvf?
[21:12] <gnomefreak> when i go to untar it it tells me not in gzip format
[21:12] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: that is untar
[21:12] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, for make a tar
[21:12] <bluekuja> or for untar it?
[21:13] <gnomefreak> xvzf is normally way i use it but i need command to tar it up
[21:13] <gnomefreak> i used cvvf and told me its not in gzip format
[21:13] <Jazzva> tar -xzf ...
[21:13] <Jazzva> czf
[21:13] <Jazzva> Should work...
[21:13] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: czf is to tar it up?
[21:14] <Jazzva> tar and gzip it
[21:14] <gnomefreak> why the hell doesnt man page give that than
[21:14] <Jazzva> if you want just to tar it up, you should use tar -cf
[21:14] <Jazzva> try tar --help :)...
[21:14] <bluekuja> lol
[21:15] <bluekuja> I usually dont have to tar it
[21:15] <gnomefreak> should i use -czf or just czf?
[21:15] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: me neither
[21:15] <gnomefreak> normally -i.bzr works
[21:15] <bluekuja> yep
[21:15] <gnomefreak> not sure why it failed to work this time
[21:16] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: are you sure it was updated in revu?
[21:16] <bluekuja> Comments for upload of November 02 22:40
[21:16] <gnomefreak> i ask because -i.bzr has never failed me before
[21:17] <Jazzva> BTW, are there some plans about packaging Flock? They release 1.0 today (maybe yesterday... something like that)...
[21:17] <gnomefreak> im gonna unpack it and see if its gone to make sure
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: not as of now no
[21:18] <Jazzva> ok...
[21:18] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: feel free to go for it but number of browsers atm are more than enough IMHO and most devs hate moz code
[21:18] <Jazzva> Well, yeah... I had the same thought as you.
[21:19] <gnomefreak> they gave me a hard time when i had iceape introduced
[21:21] <gnomefreak> ok respinning
[21:21] <gnomefreak> ill let you know bluekuja when dput gets done
[21:21] <bluekuja> fine
[21:21] <bluekuja> :9
[21:21] <bluekuja> *:)
[21:22] <gnomefreak> orry i still think -i.bzr would have fixed that
[21:22] <gnomefreak> sorry even
[21:22] <bluekuja> maybe you did something wrong
[21:22] <bluekuja> somewhere
[21:22] <bluekuja> who knows
[21:22] <bluekuja> :)
[21:22] <gnomefreak> i removed all tarballs from everywhere this time
[21:23] <gnomefreak> so lets see what happens
[21:23] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Ok, I'll forget about "Flock to the repos" for now... :)
[21:25] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: ask asac but not sure its a great idea atm
[21:26] <Jazzva> Ok :)
[21:27]  * gnomefreak thinks X died are worst possible time so after i get this done right i am gonna boot gutsy and finish getting my trilug stuff set up
[21:27] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, is your gf still downloading like hell?
[21:28] <gnomefreak> no
[21:29] <gnomefreak> not sure how long it will be i have download speed of like 100kps(real time) so upload is normally half download
[21:29] <gnomefreak> so it still may be a while
[21:29] <bluekuja> lol
[21:29] <bluekuja> wth is downloading?
[21:29] <bluekuja> :P
[21:29] <gnomefreak> its only 46000kb
[21:30] <gnomefreak> 40686 is about the size im about 2000 into it
[21:30] <bluekuja> ^^
[21:33] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmm
[21:34] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, just run lintian
[21:34] <bluekuja> after spinning
[21:34] <gnomefreak> how?
[21:34] <gnomefreak> never had to before
[21:35] <bluekuja> so you get that error
[21:35] <bluekuja> without pushing to REVU
[21:35] <bluekuja> and finding it out there
[21:37] <gnomefreak> lintian bleh.orig.tar.gz?
[21:37] <bluekuja> no
[21:37] <bluekuja> lintian iceape.deb
[21:39] <gnomefreak> i guess if i didnt rm them already that would work, how would it depend on .debs if revu downt get .debs?
[21:39] <gnomefreak> s/downt/dont
[21:39] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, actually it lintian the source
[21:39] <bluekuja> package
[21:40] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, you should get an error when debuilding it
[21:40] <gnomefreak> the orig?
[21:40] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/mercury
[21:40] <gnomefreak> dpkg-buildpackage doesnt warn me
[21:40] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, when you give debuild -S -what -you -want
[21:40] <bluekuja> you have a lintian report
[21:40] <bluekuja> (not to the .deb)
[21:40] <bluekuja> which checks binary problems
[21:40] <bluekuja> but on the source
[21:40] <bluekuja> so you get that error
[21:41] <bluekuja> W: iceape source: source-contains-bzr-control-dir .bzr
[21:41] <bluekuja> a warning...in fact..
[21:49] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, done?
[21:50] <gnomefreak> yes still not getting any warnings
[21:50] <gnomefreak> although i didnt have lintian installed before
[21:51] <bluekuja> :D
[21:51] <bluekuja> (maybe it has been fixed)
[21:51] <gnomefreak> lets hope
[21:52] <bluekuja> yep
[21:52] <gnomefreak> if it says its in there please download and extract source
[21:52] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, also feel free to ask if you need any merge upload
[21:52] <gnomefreak> because i know its not there on this end
[21:52] <bluekuja> lol
[21:52] <bluekuja> :D
[21:52] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: i have to learn how to merge so it doesnt take 2 weeks
[21:52] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, ok fine. Just ask if you need an hand
[21:52] <bluekuja> :)
[21:53] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[21:53] <gnomefreak> ill start on them next week i hope (if i find easy ones)
[21:53] <bluekuja> :)
[22:10] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: its almost done should be maybe 5-10 minutes at most. i have to run upstairs but ill be back in ~ 1 hour maybe less
[22:10] <bluekuja> I'm going to read a bit
[22:10] <bluekuja> then I sleep
[22:10] <bluekuja> tomorrow I'll be here
[22:10] <bluekuja> :)
[22:10] <gnomefreak> ok have a good night
[22:11] <bluekuja> same there
[22:11] <bluekuja> :)
[22:11] <gnomefreak> if i get back a GUi ill check lintian on revu
[22:12] <bluekuja> great
[22:51] <Ubulette> http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2007/10/27/beer-pouring-machine/  :)
[22:55] <Jazzva> Japan *love*...
[22:55] <Jazzva> How can you not love them?
[22:55] <Jazzva> :D
[22:56] <Ubulette> I speak japanese so obviously, I love japan too :)
[22:56] <Jazzva> You speak Japanese *shock*? Wow :D
[22:56] <Ubulette> well, i'm not fluent
[22:57] <Jazzva> Anyway, it's cool :).
[22:57] <Ubulette> kind of intermediate
[22:57] <Ubulette> i'm learning chinese now
[22:57] <Jazzva> Cool :)...
[22:58] <Jazzva> brb... coffee and smoke...
[23:03] <Ubulette> hmm, i've fixed rhythmbox for the python stuff but crossfading is still broken.. gonna investigate gst
[23:16]  * Jazzva is back
[23:25] <Ubulette> asac, you're there ?
[23:26] <Ubulette> maybe he's drinking in a dark pub in boston ;)