[00:16] Hey everyone. I'm running Mythbuntu RC1 for the current release (am currently upgrading everything) and can't get my DVB card to work. It is recognized and can be set up as a tuner, but when I go to scan channels in QAM 256, nothing locks despite it showing a signal of 99%. When in KnoppMyth, everything locks fine. Anyone have any idea what I'm overlooking? [00:42] hey there guys [00:42] so, i've two pc-5500 cards in this a machine running mythbuntu 7.10 [00:43] claybo, what card? [00:43] sung, yea? [00:43] and uh, i go to search for channels [00:43] and it says that signal strength is 0% [00:44] but i know i've got a good antenna and can receive good signal [00:44] ( i used the same antenna/etc with an hdtv ) [00:44] looks like i got everything configured and setup okay [00:45] dmesg shows me that it is seeing the cards in the machine [00:45] sung, what did you set as your frequency? [00:45] broadcast [00:45] hmm [00:45] interesting [00:45] and what did you set the cards up as? [00:45] now ,doesnt look like the system has the misc. tools [00:45] broadcast [00:45] i'm uessing [00:45] no [00:45] um [00:45] hold on one sec [00:46] capture cards setup as [00:46] in capture card setup [00:46] pcHDTV DTV capture card (w/4L drivers) [00:46] video device /dev/video0 [00:46] yea thats wrong :( [00:46] ah [00:46] what should i be using? [00:46] you need to set it up as [00:46] sec, let me look it up [00:46] I think it's dtv card [00:46] dvb ? [00:47] yes [00:47] * tgm4883_laptop smacks his head [00:47] set it up as a dvb card, you should see it detect right away [00:47] ryup [00:47] exchrm [00:48] a lot of the stuff is referring dit dishnet stuff [00:48] and other sat stuff [00:48] looks like same problem [00:48] freq table: broadcast [00:48] atsc modulation: terrestrial (9-VSB) [00:48] 8 vsb rather [00:49] tgm4883_laptop, I'm using an AverMedia A180. [00:49] I'm plugging the coaxial into my LCD TV right now and it picked everything up, so the cable is definitely working. [00:50] hmm [00:51] screwy [00:51] now it can't ope the card [00:52] no messages in syslog [00:53] ah figured it out [00:53] got ist scanning again [00:53] sung, did you remove the cards that you put them in as first? [00:54] but no signal strenght [00:54] tgm, didn't understand [00:54] ojh [00:54] IT PICKED UP OEN [00:55] woot [00:55] so it's working? [00:55] i think so [00:55] interesting that signal strenghth is at 0% though :/ [00:55] i'm guessing that it's not accurate [00:56] well mine shows up accuratly for the channels I do receive [00:56] claybo, hmm not sure [00:56] claybo, it's detected properly in mythbuntu? [00:57] Hi, I have some questions about transcodeing [00:57] tgm, thanks very much for your help [00:57] np [00:57] !ask | MythbuntuGuest95 [00:57] MythbuntuGuest95: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:57] tgm4883_laptop: it's detected properly, it seems like. It sees its chipset in mythtv-setup and everything. It's just that when I go to scan channels, it shows a signal of 99% and a signal/noise ratio of 93% to 60%, and nothing locks. [00:58] hmm [00:58] What's interesting, too, is that plugged directly into my LCD TV, I'm getting strong locks on way more channels than I was getting in Knoppmyth. [00:58] I at least got locks in Knoppmyth, though. [00:58] well i see one person with that card in the forums, but they don't say how they got it working [00:58] So now I'm wondering if it's something with my card, or some settings not quite being dead-on? [00:58] im wondering if you need to get the firmware for it (probably) [00:59] Hmm, good thinking. [00:59] claybo, take a look at this. It's for feisty, but may have some good info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list#head-cf80b2fb0dccd57465e5d45f55e8e34f54bc4a19 [01:00] I've poked around several forums and wikis about diffrent methods of transcodeing and exporting from the .nuv format to something playable in windows enviroment. Everyone seems to have there own ideas and own programs. What does Mythbuntu come with built in? [01:01] MythbuntuGuest95, are you wanting to use mythtranscode? [01:02] Yes, if that is preloaded. I'm intrested in learing how to porperly transcode before I install a bunch of extra software I don't really understand. [01:02] thats funny my Hauppauge TV 350 TV out works better if I unflag the option to use PVR-350's TV out/MPEG Decoder from the MythFrontend [01:02] hehe.. not sure why [01:02] ive selected Enable vnc service in the MCC and selected a password, i restarted the computer but am getting a "No password configured for VNC Auth" error when I try to access it from the Terminal Server Client in gutsy [01:03] MythbuntuGuest95, install mytharchive, that should get you what you want [01:05] tgm4883_laptop: is there a recommended way of doing vnc-like remote control with my myth box? [01:06] sung: im trying to figure that out too, [01:06] good question tgm4883_laptop, [01:07] I have noticed the vnc service and enabled it, but can't connect to it with a RealVNC client [01:07] sung, dwf_starband i dont think i understand what your trying to get here [01:07] tgm4883_laptop: so, i've got a mythtv box, but i want to control whatever i'm seeing on hte screent [01:07] I want to be able to access my mythbuntu computer from another computer for administrative purpouses [01:07] normally xvnc would do it [01:07] is that okay? [01:08] dwf_starband: i'm doing all the console stuff through ssh [01:08] but id''d rather not get off my lazy ass to do this when i've got a laptop [01:08] dwf_starband, vnc is a bad way to do that [01:08] your talking about running mythtv-setup and such right? [01:08] what is better? and why is it part of the control center then? [01:09] tgm4883_laptop: i just want to do it remotely [01:09] its all set up, but if I want to change something later I want to be able to do it without having to plug a keyboard mouse and monitor into it [01:09] cuz all ill have pluged into it is the tv and network cable [01:09] a better way of running things remotely is to ssh in [01:09] Where can find mytharchive? [01:09] ssh ipaddress -X -Y [01:10] i can do that, but im very new at the command line [01:10] would [01:10] x11vnc does it [01:10] MythbuntuGuest95, it's in the repos [01:11] what do the -X and -Y do? [01:12] it will let you open the gui program on your own computer [01:12] oh, ok [01:12] sorry not sure what "repos" is [01:13] MythbuntuGuest95: repositories, where packages are kept [01:13] thanks, that helps alot, I think thats all I need [01:13] argh. [01:14] tgm4883_laptop: fyi, x11vnc is a great thing for doing this [01:14] i just tried it and it worked, im sure I still have lots to learn about it, but at least now I have someplace to start [01:14] inital setup makes it a lot easier [01:14] welp [01:14] looks like my sound isnt working :( [01:22] tgm4883_laptop: thank you! You are a wonderful person. My A180 is picking up channels perfectly with the updated firmware. Don't know how I missed that in my Google searches, but it provided everything I needed. Thank you! [01:24] no prob claybo [01:36] hrmm [01:36] how do you set the default sound output [01:47] Hey guys, one more quick question: when I turn on OpenGL vertical sync, my video is scrambled. Is there any kind of known issue in Mythbuntu with OpenGL? [01:53] okay [01:53] got that working [01:53] asoundconf 4tw [01:53] is ubuntu able to span multiple disks to one logical volume OR recorde to multiple disks? [01:53] okay, now remote receiver issues [01:53] it comes across as 1784:0007 [01:54] superm1: are you the one that entered this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mythtv/+bug/158562 [01:55] pcglue, are you that guy with the 350 thing? [01:55] tv out? [01:55] superm1, yes, that's me [01:55] pcglue, great! [01:55] okay i've got it on a PPA right now until it clears proposed [01:55] superm1, can you explain what's PPA please? [01:55] can you install that, and if it works, i'll need you to comment on the bug after it hits proposed [01:56] pcglue, add this to your sources.list [01:56] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/superm1/ubuntu gutsy main [01:56] and then apt-get update/upgrade [01:56] it will update mythtv and myth* apps [01:58] superm1, do i have to comment out something existing? it's complaining about duplicate entry [01:58] pcglue, do you already have it in there? [01:58] you likely shouldn't [01:58] no, i don't [01:58] well then dont worry [01:58] ok === MythbuntuGuest59 is now known as stevetv [02:03] hello.. can someone point me to the script that downloads metadata from the imdb [02:05] MythbuntuGuest05, yes via LVM [02:12] superm1: how come you put it into your ppa and not mythbuntu's? [02:12] Daviey, because that is where the weekly builds go [02:12] this is for an sru] [02:12] sru? [02:12] stable release update [02:13] ah [02:13] superm1, just downloaded and installed and it works! thank you! [02:14] pcglue, okay great. please comment in the bug after its marked "fix committed" in gutsy [02:14] okay? [02:14] so at least subscribe to it so you'll see that happen [02:14] ok, will do. [02:14] thanks! [02:14] thank you! [02:15] superm1, what broke from feisty to gutsy and what was the fix? [02:15] pcglue, more than i want to go into :) [02:15] superm1, alright =) [02:15] Looks like spanning drives isn't so much recomended. Is there a way to make an aditional drive avalible myth for recording? [02:18] Daviey, please tell me you'll pushed the weekly builds by now right? [02:19] superm1: No! I told you earlier in the week that my PPA's are pushing [02:19] and you said you would push it! [02:19] Daviey, i thought you were going to fix them [02:19] no i didn't [02:19] you said you would sort it out.... [02:19] don't make me dig out the logs... ;) [02:20] i didn't agree to push them, because i specifically remember hitting +c when you said you would sort it out [02:20] because i was about to [02:20] MythbuntuGuest05, not without running trunk [02:21] Daviey, superm1, topic === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com :: See http://www.mythbuntu.org/support for support information. Daviey and superm1 are exempt from /t at all times. [02:22] ;) [02:22] nice === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com :: See http://www.mythbuntu.org/support for support information. [02:25] superm1, that PPA update removed mythweb and apache. how can i get them back? [02:25] reinstall them [02:25] it shouldn't have removed them though. [02:25] that's pretty odd. [02:27] sorry, what is "trunk"? [02:28] superm1: actually, now that I look at the console output, it removed a bunch of stuff, mythweather, dvdauthor, ffmpeg, mythcontrols, mythdvd, etc. [02:28] superm1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1593/plain/ [02:28] wtf? [02:28] when was that??? [02:28] someone must have been on my IRC..... [02:28] ;) [02:28] i dont recall that at all [02:29] did i maybe actually push them then? [02:29] $trunk [02:29] --- Day changed Mon Oct 29 2007 [02:29] $weeklybuilds [02:29] ^ time at UTC [02:29] MythbuntuGuest05, http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds [02:30] * tgm4883_laptop is off to eat dinner [02:30] * Daviey accepts superm1's a-poor-logy [02:31] pcglue, you need to dist-upgrade then probably [02:32] it sounds liek something didn't get updateed [02:33] did it say something was held back? [02:35] superm1, it says they were not used and will be removed [02:36] well why did you let it do that? [02:36] apt-get autoremove is the only thing that will do that [02:39] doesn't aptitude do autoremove as default? [02:39] did you use aptitude? [02:39] daviey, yeah it was aptitude [02:39] Daviey: yes, it does [02:39] regardless those shouldn't have been marked autoremovable [02:39] remember that was fixed at beta [02:40] i reinstalled mythweb, but there's some apache config error now [02:40] this is one of those reasons that i hate aptitude btw. [02:40] agreed.. [02:40] * tritium gasps [02:40] and the fact that it pulls in recommends as default :/ [02:40] *bloat* [02:40] Daviey, um [02:40] you didn't hear the spec this week then [02:40] as of hardy [02:40] recommends by default [02:40] ffs! [02:40] why?! [02:41] that's what debian switched to [02:41] a few days ago [02:42] packages such as smartmontools recommends mailx or mailutils... really something that isn't required for just checking [02:42] so there is now no difference between depends and recommends? [02:42] well they both get installed [02:42] but recommends can be removed safely [02:43] if you don't want malix or mailutils installed with smartmontools by default, file a bug [02:43] that stinks imo.. what session was this in? [02:43] make it suggests [02:43] hardy-ecommends-by-default [02:43] hardy-recommends-by-default [02:43] aww.. i missed that one [02:43] were there any objections? [02:43] yeah [02:43] *good* [02:44] i brought up how much would get installed on an existing system [02:44] and it was explained that universe is where the real trouble is [02:44] and it won't affect existing systems [02:44] its only new recommends added to the packages on existing systems that are upgraded [02:44] but if you do a fresh install of a package then you get them [02:44] if you dont want them, then fix the package [02:44] and dist-upgrading to hardy will also cause it? [02:44] because its a bug and not using the depends/recommends/suggests properly [02:45] only items that additionally made recommends between the two versions on the dist-upgrae [02:45] seems unclean imo [02:45] well its happening [02:45] so there is nothing to change that now [02:46] and like i said that is how debian does it now too [02:46] its the way that policy explains suggests and recommends anyway [02:46] heh bug #158909 [02:46] filed 6 hrs ago [02:47] bug #158909 [02:47] ubotu: wake up [02:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about wake up - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:47] anyway "smartmontools recommends mailx" [02:47] ubotu doesn't know bugs in this channel somehow [02:47] !bug 158909 [02:48] nope... [02:48] 6hrs ago.. that's a coincidence if ever i saw one [02:49] this spec was yesterday or the day before [02:49] yeah, i saw it on the schedule - but didn't read the spec.. [02:49] ah well [02:50] i updated the mythtv recommends in bzr [02:50] to move things like that around [02:53] I suppose it's good that the change is happening now rather than in 3 months time [02:53] I do fear how many extra bugs this create [02:53] well and we have known it was cmoing for at least 5 months [02:53] when it was announced on the debian mailing list [02:54] i missed that. [02:54] it was just a decision of whether we adapted it [02:56] anyway.. bed time for me.. catch you tommorrow [02:56] night [02:57] nn [03:04] What's a good GUI text editor to install? [03:07] Notepad++ [03:08] unless you're thinking *nix [03:08] I'm happy with gedit [03:08] I'm thinking on Mythbuntu desktop. [03:09] I just looked, like 15 packages are going to get installed if I install gedit. [03:11] okay, if anyone is around, i could really use some help with lirc: [03:12] i needed to patch one of the config files, lirc_mceusb2.c, for support for the usb receiver that's in this case. [03:12] now how do i build it from there? [03:12] all of the instructions that i've found from googling/et al don't work [03:12] make-kpkg stops on an error [03:13] echo "The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h"; echo " \"\" "; echo "does not match current version:"; echo " \"2.6.22.9\" "; echo "Please correct this."; exit 2 [03:13] that error. [03:14] include/linux/versio.h or include/linux/utsrelease.hare not in that directory [03:14] and this is from the linux-kernel-2.6.22 tree [03:14] i installed the kernel-source packages [03:20] levander, [03:20] geany [03:20] leafpad [03:20] mousepad [03:20] all good ideas [03:20] hi all [03:21] anyone here willing to help point me in the right direction for a firewire connection [03:22] well, just in case then ;) [03:22] its a SA 8300 HD [03:22] trying to connect to mythbuntu 7.10 [03:23] root@jabba:/home/steve# plugreport [03:23] Host Adapter 0 [03:23] ============== [03:23] Node 0 GUID 0x0090f500004c9518 [03:23] ------------------------------ [03:23] libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR [03:23] libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR [03:23] Node 1 GUID 0x0014f86e7a100000 [03:23] ------------------------------ [03:23] oMPR n_plugs=1, data_rate=2, bcast_channel=63 [03:23] oPCR[0] online=1, bcast_connection=0, n_p2p_connections=1 [03:23] channel=1, data_rate=1, overhead_id=0, payload=146 [03:23] iMPR n_plugs=0, data_rate=2 [03:23] plugreport looks good [03:23] but [03:24] root@jabba:/home/steve# plugreport [03:24] Host Adapter 0 [03:24] ============== [03:24] Node 0 GUID 0x0090f500004c9518 [03:24] ------------------------------ [03:24] libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR [03:24] libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR [03:24] Node 1 GUID 0x0014f86e7a100000 [03:24] ------------------------------ [03:24] oMPR n_plugs=1, data_rate=2, bcast_channel=63 [03:24] oPCR[0] online=1, bcast_connection=0, n_p2p_connections=1 [03:24] channel=1, data_rate=1, overhead_id=0, payload=146 [03:24] iMPR n_plugs=0, data_rate=2 [03:24] grr [03:24] root@jabba:/home/steve# ./firewire_tester -p -P 0 -n 1 -r 5 [03:24] Action: Test P2P connection 5 times, node 1, channel 1 [03:24] P2P: Testing...Failed [03:24] P2P: Testing...Failed [03:24] P2P: Testing...Failed [03:24] P2P: Testing...Failed [03:24] P2P: Testing...Failed [03:24] firewire_tester fails every time [03:25] the only thing i have found is this [03:26] ... anything running kernel 2.6.22 or greater uses the new firewire architecture that is INCOMPATIBLE with MythTV [03:26] lol, k, sorry, just was hoping to find someone who could point me in the right direction [03:27] um [03:27] !pastebin | steve_baker [03:27] steve_baker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:27] seriously [03:27] and that is incorrect about 2.6.22 firewire not working with myth [03:27] that's only in fedora [03:27] er correction [03:27] at least in ubuntu [03:28] we haven't adapted the new stack [03:28] sorry bout the pasting, will read up on pastebin [03:28] i know tgm4883 has things with firewire working [03:28] i know that the 8300 isn't on the tested list [03:28] i personally haven't done firewire for 1.5+ years [03:28] so i can't be of too much help for it [03:29] if tgm4883 isn't around, make a forums post [03:29] but figured if i could get it working i could add it :) [03:29] and he goes through [03:29] k [03:29] thx :) [03:31] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42987/ [03:31] your right, much better [03:36] Anyone feel like helping me figure out why I can't get some channels from SchedulesDirect removed from my local guide, despite removing on my SD lineup? [03:39] hey superm1 [03:39] hi9 [03:39] for some reason I cant get vnc to operate on the same display as myth tv [03:39] I want it to be display 0 [03:39] when I do vnc4server :0 [03:40] it says a vnc server is already running as :0 [03:40] but when I try to connect it says connection failed: connect() [03:40] but it will connect to display 1 [03:40] cbrunner, that's not how you start vnc in mythbuntu [03:40] go into mcc [03:40] turn it on there [03:40] and restart X [03:40] and it will be on [03:40] I did turn it on there [03:40] thats how I turned it on [03:41] and you restarted the computer (or at least X)? [03:43] anyone around? [03:43] superm1 trying now [03:44] let me see [03:45] oh sweet [03:45] i was in here a little bit ago asking about remote access to mythbuntu and was told that the best way was ssh ipaddress -X -Y [03:45] it worked doing that [03:45] thanks superm1 [03:45] a ton [03:45] so i tried it and it worked, so I unpluged it and set it up where Im going to be using it [03:46] dwf_starband, either that or vnc will work [03:46] if you want gui [03:46] like just cbrunner did [03:46] and realized that it was still set up for a monitor and not the tv, so i ssh'ed into it and opened nvidia-settings [03:46] but it seems to be seeing the monitors connected to my desktop not my mythbox [03:47] you need to run nvidia-settings in VNC [03:47] or directly on that box [03:47] am i just parinoid or is that actually what is hapening? === cbrunner is now known as CCB0x45 [03:48] superm1, thanks for your help so much last night [03:48] getting X configured [03:48]