[00:00] <jrib> Juz_moi: just tell him to try it... You could make screenshots using some virtual machine.  Here is one I found: http://blog.linux-cn.com/attachments/2007/04/42043_200704271939052.jpg
[00:00] <scragar> Almar- when it's done you should be able to open the drive
[00:00] <LjL> JamesG, auto-updating is enabled by default. i don't know exactly how often it checks... but i think it checks quite often.
[00:00] <Almar-> scragar: thank you very much!
[00:00] <edu> hola
[00:00] <ramza3> ff is  horrible
[00:00] <eternalswd> JamesG, set a cron task?  but installing updates requires sudo, and bypassing the passwd for installation is not very safe
[00:00] <otsifem> hola
[00:01] <Gatestone> I just installed compizfusion-settings-manager, but anything I do with it seems to have no effect. Default Gutsy effects work ok, but no rotating cube...
[00:01] <JamesG> LjL: If you're running the desktop version, perhaps.. I don't think this is true for server.
[00:01] <Wa1337> Hן :)
[00:01] <JamesG> eternalswd: I was under the impression apt had a facility for this.
[00:01] <Wa1337> Can some1 help me install my new ATI driver? (that was released..)
[00:01] <Gatestone> I looked at the support pages but that did not help.
[00:01] <junkbox> eternalswdyes, the java-6-sun seems to be set to default.
[00:01] <LjL> JamesG: indeed, it is not. however, do remember that some packages really *should* be installed interactively, for example when they modify config files in /etc, so it's not necessarily a good idea to make everything automated
[00:02] <Vlet> Whoa, I just realized that the ubuntu developers conference is happening across the street from my office :)
[00:02] <Gatestone> Where is a log of this channel?
[00:02] <LjL> JamesG: you can certainly set up (easily) a cronjob to *download* any updated packages during the night, but i think you should still remember to perform the actual upgrading manually
[00:02] <LjL> !logs > Gatestone    (Gatestone, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:02] <Lunks> Something weird is happening to an X session I'm trying to create: I can't seem to change its resolution! It behaves strange, as if the screen's smaller than the 'screen' it's trying to display. If I move the mouse to the edges, it scrolls the screen.
[00:02] <JamesG> LjL: Hm
[00:03] <jrib> JamesG: you may want to look at cron-apt
[00:03] <Almar-> scragar: i still seem to have a problem
[00:03] <darkfire> I was worried that my wifi adapter was not going to work with ubuntu
[00:03] <Almar-> scragar: should I force open?
[00:03] <z0ltan_nL> ok, so i have my server up and running, connects fine through the static ip i have assigned, but i can not for the life of me, get it to work as a dhcp server
[00:03] <Wa1337> Can some1 help me install my new ATI driver? (that was released..), What should i delet before installing the new driver. like, XGL i have to disable as i know, what else?
[00:03] <igorgue> zd1211 does not compile :(
[00:03] <darkfire> But it seems to work just fine even with WPA
[00:03] <igorgue> and it sucks that is not included in binary package... just source :(
[00:03] <darkfire> Using a Netgear WG111v2
[00:04] <scragar> Almar-: click cancel, then open computer if not already open, and right click on the drive, then choose "mount volume"
[00:04] <LjL> !fixres > Lunks    (Lunks, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:04] <Wa1337>  Can some1 help me install my new ATI driver? (that was released..), What should i delet before installing the new driver. like, XGL i have to disable as i know, what else?
[00:04] <Almar-> scragar: i get the error there
[00:04] <Toddler> anyone know howto enable the cube agian after update of ubuntu
[00:04] <eternalswd> JamesG, looks like maybe aptitude has something http://www.ambienteto.arti.beniculturali.it/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/aptitude/README look for Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade
[00:04] <darkfire> Almar i had the same problem
[00:05] <LjL> Wa1337: installing hardware drivers that are not in the repositories manually is generally discourage and often leads to trouble.
[00:05] <darkfire> My drives would not mount
[00:05] <scragar> Almar-: realy? works when I did it(don't have windows anymore, but it worked when I did)
[00:05] <darkfire> Almar are the drives ntfs
[00:05] <Almar-> darkfire: yes.
[00:05] <darkfire> Did you use them in Windows
[00:05] <Almar-> yes
[00:05] <darkfire> ok
[00:05] <Almar-> it's an external hdd
[00:05] <darkfire> Do you have a pc with windows
[00:05] <Almar-> i have access to one
[00:05] <darkfire> ok
[00:06] <Almar-> what should I do?
[00:06] <darkfire> Plug that external HD into the windows machine
[00:06] <z0ltan_nL> so i go through a few tutorials, check out my ubunut book, still nothing. so im running around in my dhcpd.config file trying to figure out why its telling me that im on multiple subnets
[00:06] <darkfire> Then click safely remove external hd
[00:06] <Lunks> LjL: I'm sorry, but I believe you misread my message. I'm trying to setup a new X session with different resolution, just X, not gnome/kde/whatever. My current X session's fine, it works the way it should. Problem is when starting a new session. I can't seem to change its resolution.
[00:06] <darkfire> Then it should mount in linux
[00:06] <Almar-> oh ok
[00:06] <Almar-> thanks i'll try
[00:06] <Lunks> LjL: I actually don't know what command should I use. I've tried xrandr, but for some reason it's not working. =\
[00:07] <jrib> junkbox: did you pastebin that command?
[00:07] <Toddler> zoltan: you have any wireless connetions ? wifi / bluetooth ?  BIERTJE !!!!!!
[00:07] <unikon> Does Ubuntu 7.10 support all in one printer,scanner,copier machines
[00:07] <z0ltan_nL> nope
[00:07] <LjL> Lunks: but do you positively know that your xorg.conf is set so that it *can* set the desired resolution?
[00:07] <z0ltan_nL> its all wired
[00:07] <Toddler> geen bier
[00:07] <Lunks> LjL: Yes it is. In fact, I want it at 800x600, which most people run away from/is set by default. :P
[00:08] <z0ltan_nL> t1 line going in as a static ip, trying to make it so i can dhcp ip's to my other servers that i have yet to create
[00:08] <ninnghizidha> Hello. Looking for a tool, that tells me the megabyte used by each folder.
[00:09] <strommi> hey all, i have a question.  I want to set my system to en_US.8859-1 instead of the default en_US.UTF-8.  I used to do this in  Fedora by editing /etc/sysconfig/i18n.  How can I change the character encoding in Ubuntu?
[00:09] <fyrestrtr> ninnghizidha: Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[00:09] <Gatestone> ok I found the IRC logs. Is there a way to search through all of them?
[00:09] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot! :)
[00:09] <Caram_Home> Gatestone
[00:09] <Caram_Home> are you using mIRC?
[00:09] <fyrestrtr> strommi: you really don't want to do that.
[00:09] <bieb> OT - Anyone know of a good place online where I can create an account and dump some files?
[00:10] <Gatestone> Caram_Home: ?
[00:10] <ninnghizidha> exactly what i was looking for, fyrestrtr! thanks a million!
[00:10] <ninnghizidha> :)
[00:10] <Gatestone> Caram_Home: I use xchat-gnome
[00:10] <fyrestrtr> ninnghizidha: your welcome
[00:10] <eternalswd> bieb, gmail?
[00:10] <Almar-> darkfire, scragar: thanks a lot
[00:10] <Almar-> this worked
[00:10] <Gatestone> Caram_Home: Is there mIRC for Linux?
[00:11] <LjL> Lunks, well it's not necessarily present in your xorg.conf. anyway, i'm not sure xrandr is the correct tool. perhaps you should rather specify a "-screen" option to Xorg, after creating an appropriate entry in xorg.conf
[00:11] <darkfire> Glad to be of service Almar
[00:11] <strommi> fyrestrt: why not?
[00:11] <eternalswd> Gatestone, not unless you run wine
[00:11] <darkfire> The same thing happend to me just today ^_^
[00:11] <bieb> eternal.. can it be set up like a file system? or just send the files as attachments?
[00:11] <vaidas> why is it that with winxp my laptops battery lasts 2:20 and with kubuntu - 1:40?
[00:11] <unikon> mIRC for linux Lmao
[00:11] <eternalswd> bieb, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1593
[00:12] <junkbox> jrib.  yes i pasted in "sudo update-alternatives --config java"  it gives 3 options.  the third option is " /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java".
[00:12] <junkbox> jrib: it is set to the default
[00:12] <bieb> eternal.. thanks
[00:12] <eternalswd> bieb, I also believe fuse has a system for mounting a gmail account
[00:12] <jrib> junkbox: what does 'apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin' return?  use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:12] <Lunks> LjL: I've checked, it is. So, X :3 -ac -screen 800x600 should start an X session on display 3 @ 800x600?
[00:12] <batelje> hello everyone , i burned a zenwalk cd with k3b as an image , but when starting up again with the cd in , it just boots up ubuntu. and i want to install zenwalk on my other HD , NEED HELP !
[00:13] <scragar> batelje: have go configured your BIOS to boot from CD first?
[00:13] <eternalswd> batelje, have your boot order set correctly in bios?
[00:13] <Lunks> LjL: I mean, -screen is the parameter I'm looking for (to change screen resolution)
[00:13] <batelje> Yes i did
[00:13] <LjL> Lunks: hm afraid not, "-screen" only accepts a screen name that was *defined* in xorg.conf. so it's more complicated than that, you should create a *new* Screen section in xorg.conf, and set 800x600 as its default resolution, i think
[00:13] <Lunks> hmm ok
[00:13] <Gatestone> ok, it looks like googling for "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com keywords" is a killer way to find info!
[00:14] <batelje> i even turn off my HD , so my pc have the only choice to boot up from cd
[00:14] <eternalswd> batelje, did you md5sum compare the burned image to what it's supposed to be?
[00:14] <junkbox> sun-java6-plugin:
[00:14] <junkbox>   Installed: 6-03-0ubuntu2
[00:14] <junkbox>   Candidate: 6-03-0ubuntu2
[00:14] <junkbox>   Version table:
[00:14] <junkbox>  *** 6-03-0ubuntu2 0
[00:14] <junkbox>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages
[00:14] <junkbox>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[00:14] <junkbox>    
[00:14] <junkbox>    
[00:14] <LjL> !paste > junkbox    (junkbox, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:14] <junkbox>    
[00:14] <Lunks> LjL: That really helps! Thanks a lot.
[00:14] <batelje> yup eternalswd , right after he burned it
[00:14] <jrib> junkbox: I said to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org not here
[00:14] <osmosis> how do I change the editor that crontab -e uses ?
[00:14] <steel_lady> one simple question: when you install the program, how to discover how to run it if it is not on the menu???
[00:14] <fyrestrtr> osmosis: export EDITOR=something
[00:15] <JamesG> osmosis: export VISUAL=whatever
[00:15] <eternalswd> batelje, made sure the drive works?
[00:15] <batelje> the cd drive you mean ?
[00:15] <LjL> steel_lady: a useful trick is « dpkg -L packagename | grep bin »
[00:15] <osmosis> fyrestrtr: JamesG: where is the system default ?
[00:15] <eternalswd> batelje, yes
[00:15] <JamesG> osmosis: nano, I think?
[00:15] <batelje> the cd -drive works fine
[00:15] <fyrestrtr> osmosis: /etc/profile I think
[00:15] <JamesG> Oh, where?
[00:15] <JamesG> Yeah, might be profile
[00:15] <eternalswd> batelje, not sure what it could be then
[00:15] <steel_lady> LjL and if I do not know packagename?
[00:16] <fyrestrtr> steel_lady: how did you install it?
[00:16] <LjL> steel_lady: uh... how can you have installed it and not know the package name?
[00:16] <jrib> junkbox: do you understand that you need to use pastebin now?
[00:16] <batelje> damn , well yeah. althoug thanx for your time eternalswd
[00:16] <steel_lady> synaptic
[00:16] <batelje> lets hit google
[00:16] <scragar> steel_lady: you could try searching recent files...
[00:16] <fyrestrtr> steel_lady: what is it that you are looking to run?
[00:16] <LjL> steel_lady, « tail /var/log/dpkg.log » will give you the package name
[00:17] <steel_lady> fyrestrtr I was curious how the second life looks like and I can not run it now because I don't see how
[00:17] <LjL> steel_lady: second life is in synaptic?
[00:17] <fluffman> hi, i'm trying to get sound working on a latitude cpi d266xt.  I've followed directions on the forums for dapper, but they don't seem to e working.  Can someone talke a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 and let me know if there is something different that I should change?
[00:17] <junkbox> jrib:  ya i think so. i pasted it into th website
[00:18] <vaidas> why is it that with winxp my laptops battery lasts 2:20 and with kubuntu - 1:40?
[00:18] <darkfire> vaidas
[00:18] <eternalswd> vaidas, powersaving settings possibly?
[00:18] <darkfire> what do you do in windows
[00:18] <darkfire> that you don't do in kubuntu
[00:18] <vaidas> I downclock my cpu and vga equally in windows and in ubuntu
[00:19] <vaidas> I think I do everything the same
[00:19] <Guerra> Okay. I need some help. I want to triple boot. Drive C is 100% for XP, and drive D is partitioned, 10 for ubuntu root, 60 for home, 20 for swap, and 80 I want to put to vista. However, vista won't let me install on that 80 gb, and I'm not sure why.
[00:19] <Guerra> Any ideas?
[00:19] <jrib> junkbox: ok, then you would give us the url to your paste.  Can you do 'sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun'.  Then close all instances of firefox, run 'ps -ef' and verify firefox is not running, and lastly, visit http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml in firefox?
[00:19] <steel_lady> LjL yes I did it over synaptic
[00:19] <Guerra> I already have XP and Ubuntu, and I want to install vista in that 80 gb space.
[00:19] <fujin_> Guerra: because it's Vista?
[00:19] <Juz_moi> thanks jrib
[00:19] <fujin_> Is that partition a primary partition?
[00:19] <Guerra> Yes it's primary
[00:19] <Guerra> what should it be?
[00:19] <LjL> steel_lady: using third party repositories, i would assume?
[00:19] <MTecknology> I'm trying to set permissions on a folder... I want root to be the owner but a different group to have r/w permissions on it. I created a secondary group and added the user to it. When that user tries to look at the files, they can't do anything in it. I know it's one simple thing left... any ideas?
[00:19] <fujin_> primary should work, yeah
[00:19] <bluefox83> Guerra, windows drives/partitions first, ubuntu last
[00:20] <Guerra> argh
[00:20] <Guerra> it took me ages to get ubuntu installed
[00:20] <bluefox83> how come?
[00:20] <Guerra> and now it's so lovely and perfect. Fully customized and delicious.
[00:20] <Guerra> because of display issues
[00:20] <jrib> MTecknology: did you logout and back in after making the user a member of the group?
[00:20] <bluefox83> ah
[00:20] <steel_lady> LjL it is nice to include 3rd party :) now how to run it?
[00:20] <MTecknology>  jrib there was a restart
[00:20] <fujin_> I'm sure you'll be able to reinstall following your documentation process
[00:21] <jrib> MTecknology: pastebin 'ls -ld DIRECTORY'
[00:21] <Guerra> Is there anyway I can install vista last?
[00:21] <mihaela> rffwrf
[00:21] <bluefox83> so backup all your preferences, then save them to a file...and then move everythign around ;)
[00:21] <LjL> steel_lady: i think i gave you instructions... « tail /var/log/dpkg.log » to find what the package is called, and then « dpkg -L packagename | grep bin » to find how to run it
[00:21] <bluefox83> *everything
[00:21] <fluffman> guerra, probably not
[00:21] <scragar> Guerra: there's a guide somewhere, gimme a mo I'll seach for it
[00:21] <eternalswd> MTecknology, sudo chown root:group folder        then, sudo chmod -R 0750 folder
[00:21] <Lunks> LjL: You just made my day, it works! =)
[00:21] <kst> how do I run a second session capable of OpenGL (for games)?
[00:21] <LjL> Lunks: cool
[00:21] <Guerra> thanks for your honesty. All the guides put ubuntu in last. Sigh.
[00:21] <Lunks> thanks a lot, man!
[00:21] <CoolCaine> ola
[00:21] <junkbox> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42973/
[00:21] <steel_lady> LjL I did the first command but the second one with grep gives no result
[00:21] <MTecknology> eternalswd, I used 650
[00:21] <ailean> guys, how do i know if i am running the correct kernel?  I think i have a 64-bit processor but might be running the 32 bit kernel
[00:21] <Lunks> I'll post it on the forums, this way you can run games without exiting your session.
[00:22] <jrib> junkbox: thanks, did you get my last suggestion?
[00:22] <mihaela> gffeuţîă
[00:22] <bluefox83> Guerra, it's cus windows insists on being first, where-as ubuntu is nice and doesn't mind being in the back of the line ;)
[00:22] <mihaela> uoâ
[00:22] <jrib> mihaela: stop
[00:22] <eternalswd> MTecknology, I would think that would be fine as well
[00:22] <bbyman> I have my grub menu.lst open in gedit. How am I able to change what options are displayed in GRUB? I don't want 4 options for my single Ubuntu option
[00:22] <oz_> hello, did any1 notice that usb disk automount breaks after upgrade from feisty to gutsy ? I've seen it on 2 different machines :-\
[00:22] <scragar> Guerra: http://apcmag.com/5045/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux - any help?
[00:23] <LjL> steel_lady: then try it without the grep part. just « dpkg -L packagename », and try to understand which of those files is the executable one
[00:23] <Guerra> Sigh.
[00:23] <Guerra> Thanks.
[00:23] <MTecknology> jrib, drwxrw-r-- 7 root videos 4096 2007-10-26 18:40 videos/
[00:23] <jrib> MTecknology: you want your group to have +x
[00:24] <fluffman> I'm trying to get sound working on a latitude cpi d266xt.  I've followed directions on the forums for dapper, but they don't seem to e working.  Can someone talke a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 and let me know if there is something different that I should change?
[00:24] <eternalswd> oz_, I never had usb automount working in feisty either, I just added a mount command to my startup script :P
[00:24] <Guerra> scragar, thanks so much, this is exactly what I need. HUZZAH
[00:24] <Shpook> Hello everyone. Anyone know a way to save streaming .wmv video?
[00:24] <ailean> how do i know if i am running the correct kernel?  I think i have a 64-bit processor but might be running the 32 bit kernel
[00:24] <miki> ciao atutti, ho bisogno d'aiuto, non riesco  a configurare la lingua italiana mi aiutate?
[00:24] <ailean> !it
[00:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:24] <LjL> ailean, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
[00:24] <scragar> eternalswd: you could add it to fstab
[00:24] <jrib> Shpook: mplayer -dumpstream  will work if mplayer can play it
[00:24] <ailean> LjL, why so?
[00:25] <Guerra> by the way, is there a way I can see if people close their IM windows with me using that ubuntu messenger, pidgin?
[00:25] <Guerra> I know GAIM does it
[00:25] <miki> scusatemi sono inesperto
[00:25] <scragar> eternalswd: but I'd need more info(drive name/partition, mount location etc) to say the exact command
[00:25] <oz_> eternalswd, it work great in feisty, but it's broken after upgrade to gutsy... no idea how to fix...
[00:25] <LjL> miki: scrivi /join #ubuntu-it
[00:25] <Gatestone> Where are compiz plugins documented? I find it hard to undertand the million parameters...
[00:25] <fluffman> guerra, gaim = pidgin
[00:25] <eternalswd> Shpook, mplayer -dumpstream http://url
[00:25] <LjL> ailean: because there are a few programs that can't run on 64bit. i think probably most of the people who have a 64bit processor are really using 32bit Ubuntu
[00:25] <nikaperla> ciao a tutti
[00:25] <EightyFiveOnline> i <3 pidgin
[00:25] <LjL> !it | nikaperla
[00:25] <ubotu> nikaperla: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:25] <Shpook> jrib: cool, I had another question about that, but eternalswd just answered it
[00:25] <Shpook> thanks guys!
[00:26] <Guerra> well, when I had GAIM on suse, it would tell me when people opened AND closed IM windows
[00:26] <factboy818181> stupid question, but does this bug: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html affect desktops at all?
[00:26] <nikaperla> grazie per il consiglio
[00:26] <Guerra> pidgin only tells me when they open the IM window
[00:26] <junkbox> jrib:  i jet get a gray box where the java applet should be running
[00:26] <ompong> hy all
[00:26] <ailean> LjL, right, but surely the system would run faster using the correct kernel for its architecture?
[00:26] <redheat> hi everyone
[00:27] <bcardarella> I added the Run Application icon to my menu tray. Is there a way to have a keyboard shortcut to this? (I checked Preference/Keyboard Shortcuts but nothing there) I would like to do the Super+R   similar to the run dialog box in Windows
[00:27] <eternalswd> scragar, that's right, I moved it to fstab once I figured out the uuid option
[00:27] <LjL> ailean: marginally sol
[00:27] <jrib> junkbox: pastebin what you get when you visit "about:plugins" in your browser and the output of 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/'
[00:27] <LjL> so
[00:27] <redheat> quick question, does the nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu's repos support the 8 generation of the nvidia video cards
[00:27] <redheat> I mean is there a driver in the nvidia drivers that has the following tag 100.14.19
[00:27] <jrib> bcardarella: alt-f2, edit in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[00:28] <Lam_> i can't seem to connect to any workgroups when using samba. does anyone know the cause? (i have samba and smbfs installed, and i'm trying to connect to an ubuntu desktop)
[00:28] <ailean> LjL, so i'll keep it as it is for now.  but just for my information, an AMD turion 64 x2 technically should be using the 64-bit version, yeah?
[00:28] <Shpook> okay, im back
[00:28] <bcardarella> jrib: thanks
[00:28] <redheat> guys anyone
[00:28] <cwraig> lj #gentoo
[00:28] <kst> is there a way to disable Xgl in Ubuntu other than creating that disable file? so I can set it easily for a second session without removing/renaming files?
[00:29] <SeanTater> factboy818181: unlikely, as I believe desktops very rarely if at all power off HD's, I;m not even sure it's possible
[00:29] <Shpook> What about saving streaming video that uses the MMS protocol?
[00:29] <eternalswd> Shpook, mplayer -dumpstream mms://url
[00:29] <Iceshadow> I've got a 160GB IDE Seagate drive in a USB external enclosure, plug it in, and i get a "scsi 7:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" in dmesg. Nothing in blkid, etc. Any one have any ideas?
[00:29] <LjL> ailean: it "can".
[00:30] <UbuntuPwns> how come this server doesnt show the ops/hops/voice status on the nick list?
[00:30] <Shpook> eternalswd: I tried, and it says stream not seekable.
[00:30] <ailean> LjL, ok, i take your point.  Thanks for the advice LjL :)
[00:30] <LjL> ailean, any 64 bit processor can use the 32 bit version - the vice versa is not true. yours is a 64 bit processor
[00:30] <ailean> great :)
[00:30] <LjL> UbuntuPwns: it does. check your client's settings.
[00:30] <UbuntuPwns> hmmm on other servers i have no prob LjL
[00:31] <numique> huhu (toll, wieder amsgs schreiben zu können^^)
[00:31] <eternalswd> Shpook, does it abort?  Does it play if you just do mplayer mms://url
[00:31] <Guerra> What would the advantage of using the 64 bit instead of the 32 bit, in practical terms.
[00:31] <Guerra> not theoretical.
[00:31] <junkbox> jrib:  about:plugins---http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42976/
[00:31] <scragar> 64 bit wont break in 2038?
[00:31] <eternalswd> Guerra, it would be faster
[00:31] <ailean> Guerra, it should give a performance advantage
[00:31] <Guerra> how much faster?
[00:31] <orionr> How do you disable hard drivers that are mounted from showing up on your desktop?
[00:31] <SeanTater> Iceshadow: I don't know much about that, but the following info might help someone else: have you tried to plug it in directly to your MB and what filesystem is it?
[00:32] <fluffman> !de | numique
[00:32] <ubotu> numique: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[00:32] <ailean> Guerra, depends on what you're asking it to do
[00:32] <scragar> variable
[00:32] <SeanTater> scragar: 32bit will, but 64 bit will last something like 600 billion years
[00:32] <desertc> Okay, I got a GUI question -- is there a GNOME application that I can use to read man pages ???
[00:32] <Pici> desertc: gman
[00:32] <gecko89> I was wondering if anyone could help diagnose a problem I'm having with dual displays and an nvidia card under 7.10
[00:32] <desertc> Pici: No, YOU the man!
[00:32] <desertc> Pici: Thanks!
[00:33] <Iceshadow> SeanTater: it's worked prior, ext3
[00:33] <Shpook> eternalswd: Yes, it plays without -dumpstream
[00:33] <lolgenik> hi
[00:33] <junkbox> jrib:  ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  -----http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42977/
[00:33] <lolgenik> is wubi good
 !de | numique <-- hö? o.0
[00:33] <orionr> does anyone know the name of the application that lets you chaange system settings i think its called something like nautilus editor or gconfig
[00:33] <Shpook> But with -dumpstream it says unknown object
[00:34] <eternalswd> Shpook, can you give the address?
[00:34] <Shpook> mms://a511.v12887c.c12887.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/511/12887/v0001/vod.ibsys.com/2006/1218/10561699.200k.wmv
[00:34] <sjovan> gconf-editor you think of?
[00:34] <fluffman> gecko89: alt-f2, then type gksudo nvidia-settings
[00:34] <FightThePower> When I boot in regular GNOME, (Running failsafe), it goes to my splash and craps out on me
[00:35] <jrib> junkbox: you need to remove the gcj plugin: sudo aptitude purge gcjwebplugin
[00:35] <lolgenik> can anyone help me
[00:35] <lolgenik> with how to install ubuntu
[00:35] <FightThePower> what part?
[00:35] <FightThePower> Burning disc?
[00:35] <ailean> lolgenik, do you have a CD?
[00:35] <eternalswd> Shpook, when it says Stream not seekable, it is still downloading it, just let it finish
[00:35] <sjovan> lolgenik: what part do you need help with?
[00:35] <fran> hello
[00:35] <gecko89> fluffman: it's saying I do not appear to be using the NVIDIA x driver
[00:36] <fluffman> gecko89:  what card do you have?
[00:36] <gecko89> fluffman: nVidia GeForce FX 5500
[00:36] <fluffman> look in synaptic for (i think) nvidia-glx-new
[00:36] <Shpook> eternalswd: Ohhhh. Do you know what location it downloads to?
[00:36] <Guerra> Okay. I got a problem. Trying to boot with Gnome Partition Editor, and it won't go into the GUI.
[00:36] <fluffman> if that doesn't work, try a legacy
[00:36] <gecko89> fluffman: I've installed the restricted driver, it says it's in use
[00:37] <eternalswd> Shpook, hold on, there's an argument to tell it where to download to, let me find it
[00:37] <fluffman> gecko89: good.  now check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:37] <lolgenik> ailean
[00:37] <lolgenik> i pmed you
[00:37] <junkbox> jrib:  yes, it works.
[00:37] <LonelyGunner> hello guys.
[00:37] <jrib> junkbox: great
[00:37] <fluffman> gecko89: under device, it should say you are using "driver: nvidia"
[00:37] <ailean> lolgenik, didn't get it - 2 secs
[00:37] <junkbox> jrib:  Thank you, i appreciate the assistance
[00:37] <jrib> junkbox: no problem
[00:37] <kst> i had a second session going with xinit, closed it again using exit.. but now i cant open terminals anymore in my first gnome session? :(
[00:37] <jackal> im getting hardlocks in gutsy.  problem doesnt occur in recovery mode.. any suggestions?
[00:38] <eternalswd> Shpook, mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile /path/to/file.wmv mms://url
[00:38] <Guerra> Okay. I got a problem. Trying to boot with Gnome Partition Editor, and it won't go into the GUI. Anyone?
[00:38] <ailean> lolgenik, i answered you
[00:38] <LonelyGunner> I have a problem with Linux Ubuntu Desktop i386. After connecting to Internet, it seems it disconnects after a few seconds.. Firefox doesn't load the webpages either. What should I have to do?
[00:38] <gecko89> fluffman: there are two devices listed, each one with driver "nvidia"
[00:38] <Shpook> eternalswd: Thanks...I also found that it's dumping to ~/stream.dump
[00:38] <ailean> lolgenik, are you there?
[00:38] <lolgenik> yea
[00:38] <lolgenik> im messagin you
[00:38] <lolgenik> you dont get my messages?
[00:38] <ailean> lolgenik, no
[00:39] <orionr> does anyone know where the option is to disable disks that are mounted from showing up as icons on the desktop. I believe the option is in gconf-editor.
[00:39] <lolgenik> ailean do you know wubi
[00:39] <ailean> lolgenik, no
[00:39] <jrib> !icons > orionr (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:39] <lolgenik> lol
[00:39] <fluffman> gecko89: check synaptic for nvidia-settings
[00:39] <matthew> how do you use the GTK --display argument?
[00:39] <mancrow> hello
[00:39] <lolgenik> WHO here knows what wubi is
[00:39] <fluffman> you need that to set up dual monitors
[00:39] <sjovan> LonelyGun: try ping vg.no in the terminal
[00:39] <wastrel> matthew: man gtk-options
[00:39] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[00:40] <eternalswd> Shpook, I believe by default it dumps it in whatever the current directory is and calls it stream.dump
[00:40] <orionr> Thanks
[00:40] <mancrow> or serial port settting what ever there called
[00:40] <LonelyGunner> sjovan, I'm a newbie in linux. What should it tell me?
[00:40] <gecko89> fluffman: it says it will remove nvidia-glx-new, is that OK
[00:40] <mpmc> Anyone know any decent VPC app for Linux?
[00:40] <matthew> wastrel:  doesn't help, it gives you one sentence.  i don't know what the name of my display is and i don't know how to find out what hte name of my display is.
[00:40] <wastrel> matthew: typically it's a number
[00:40] <Perrako> can someone knowledgeable in GRUB and partitioning and whatnot give me a hand?
[00:40] <Shpook> eternalswd: Cool, now I just gotta wait for it to finish
[00:40] <wastrel> matthew: starting with 0
[00:41] <Shpook> eternalswd: thanks for your help man
[00:41] <wastrel> 0.0 maybe
[00:41] <fluffman> gecko89: it shouldn't have to do that.  I would leave nvidia-glx-new alone
[00:41] <jackal> im getting hardlocks in gutsy.  problem doesnt occur in recovery mode (single user) & the previous versions worked fine on same machine.. any suggestions?
[00:41] <sjovan> LonelyGun: does it come up with pakets sendt in xxx ms?
[00:41] <eternalswd> Shpook, no problem
[00:41] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[00:41] <fluffman> try restarting X and then running nvidia-settings again
[00:41] <LonelyGunner> sjovan, I'm on windoza now, I'll tell you what I see when I'll reconnect. Now i'll change to Linux. See you in a few
[00:42] <matthew> wastrel:  i tried 0 through 10 and all said "cannot open display"
[00:43] <wastrel> matthew: another machine on the network?
[00:43] <wastrel> or on the machine you're currently using
[00:43] <fluffman> gecko89: hope that works for you, but i've to got to go for now.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but that's all I had to do to get it working
[00:43] <matthew> wastrel;  both
[00:43] <fluffman> be back later.
[00:43] <hhp2k> Hello everyone =) I've recently been denied access to my ubuntu machine because the disk was too full - it couldn't write the configuration file for GDM, and thus it couldn't log me in. I am currently on that machine booting from a Live CD. I can access the drive, but it won't let me delete any files on it to make room. How would I go about rectifying this problem?
[00:43] <tcpdumpgod> hi all
[00:43] <gecko89> fluffman: thanks for the help anyway
[00:44] <jackal> hhp2k:  did you remount the filesystem rw?
[00:44] <wastrel> matthew: ps -ef | grep X
[00:44] <wastrel> :0  is mine
[00:44] <jrib> hhp2k: run 'gksudo nautilus' on the live cd
[00:44] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k mount -o remount,rw / (or what ever mount point you want remounted)
[00:45] <ramza3> anybody want to join my boycott firefox club
[00:45] <matthew> wastrel:  so you have to use the : ?
[00:45] <wastrel> dunno :]
[00:45] <hhp2k> jrib: I tried that, and it gives me access to the partition that my live cd is on.
[00:45] <matthew> ok
[00:45] <tcpdumpgod> ramza3 if you're boycotting firefox, what browser do you use?
[00:45] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k what is your root slice on the hard drive?
[00:45] <tcpdumpgod>  /dev/sda1 ?
[00:45] <ramza3> tcpdumpgod, anything but firefox.  I would rather use lynx, at least it wont crash my computer.  I try to use opera. but a lot of the sites dont support it
[00:45] <vaidas> why is he boycotting ff?
[00:45] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: Primary. Uses the whole drive
[00:45]  * jrib hands off to tcpdumpgod 
[00:46] <tcpdumpgod> yep ramza3
[00:46] <jackal> lol
[00:46] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k what is the output of "fdisk -l
[00:46] <tcpdumpgod> "
[00:46] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: I'll check that for you
[00:46] <kst> how do you disable Xgl on gutsy besides using the /disable file? or how do you launch Xgl in gutsy to use compiz even tho you have the /disable file?
[00:47] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: no output.
[00:47] <christi> how can I enable/disable a (SysV) service for a given run level or all run levels?
[00:47] <ramza3> tcpdumpgod, I would have responded sooner but FF just locked up my machine
[00:47] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "dmesg |grep sd"
[00:47] <EightyFiveOnline> where are the www and sql folders for server edition
[00:47] <christi> update-rc.d kind of sucks since I have to give a priority
[00:47] <reval> how do I enable all the repositories in 7.1?  (im trying to install ruby)
[00:47] <jrib> hhp2k,tcpdumpgod: need sudo on the fdisk
[00:47] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[00:48] <tcpdumpgod> oh yeah
[00:48] <tcpdumpgod> sorry, i dont use sudo
[00:48] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[00:48] <wastrel> christi: you can use -f disable  with update-rc.d  for all runlevels, no priority
[00:48] <Guerra> scragar, Your link helped SO much. It's all working, thanks mate! You can always depend on a fellow penguin.
[00:48] <jrib> reval: there is no 7.1, it is 7.10 (2007 october).  Check out system -> administration -> software sources
[00:48] <jrib> !repos > reval (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:48] <christi> wastrel, and to re-enable?
[00:48] <Guerra> guess he left. Oh wells
[00:49] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k ?
[00:49] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod:  No output
[00:49] <reval> yah, I have 7.10
[00:49] <wastrel> christi: sorry it's "remove"  and to re-enable "defaults"
[00:49] <hhp2k> dmesg gave me 8 listings thoough
[00:49] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k are you booted from the live cd?
[00:49] <hhp2k> Yes.
[00:49] <tcpdumpgod> okay, what "listings" did it give you?
[00:49] <EightyFiveOnline> where are the www and sql folders for server edition
[00:49] <tcpdumpgod> EightyFiveOnline /var/lib/mysql
[00:49] <christi> wastrel, ok thank you
[00:50] <tcpdumpgod> EightyFiveOnline you have to install Apache and MySQL for it to make those folders though
[00:50] <EightyFiveOnline> i have it installed apparently
[00:50] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to mount a nfs share as a certain uid?
[00:50] <tcpdumpgod> okay, EightyFiveOnline look in /var/lib/mysql
[00:50] <tcpdumpgod> fiXXXerMet yes, but you'd have to check the forums for the exact commands to use.
[00:50] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: 51.248554] sd 0:0:0:3: Attached scsi removable disk sdd
[00:50] <mohamed_> hello all, i need to installa good DJ application, on ubuntu, can anyone tell about good DJ application ?
[00:50] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks tcpdumpgod
[00:51] <hhp2k> and [   51.253637] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[00:51] <reval> what do I have to add to the sources.list in order to get all the repositories?
[00:51] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd"
[00:51] <hhp2k> four of those two
[00:51] <fiXXXerMet> One more, what's the advantage of nfsv4 vs. v3 (default) or vs2?
[00:51] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: No response
[00:51] <EightyFiveOnline> i see apache no sql
[00:51] <Frogzoo> !easysource | reval
[00:51] <ubotu> reval: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[00:51] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k open up this site: http://pastebin.ca
[00:51] <kst> can you disable Xgl in xorg.conf?
[00:51] <tcpdumpgod> then i want you to paste the output of this command there.
[00:51] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: launching
[00:52] <tcpdumpgod> "dmesg |grep sd"
[00:52] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k are you using "gutsy"?
[00:52] <gluonman> What are the minimum system requirements for compiz fusion effects to work?
[00:52] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: Fiesty
[00:52] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k okay, it still labels ATA drives as sd*
[00:52] <tcpdumpgod> "dmesg |grep sd"
[00:52] <sjovan> gluonman: that you are a realy lucky guy
[00:53] <gluonman> sjovan, ?
[00:53] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: http://pastebin.ca/758247
[00:53] <gluonman> sjovan, are they so high?
[00:53] <tcpdumpgod> good hhp2k , now paste me "fdisk -l" to that same page
[00:53] <sjovan> gluonman: no, but you need a lot of luck to manage to run it smooth
[00:54] <sjovan> like without any errors
[00:54] <Guerra> You know, schools really need to use linux
[00:54] <Guerra> so much cheaper
[00:54] <gluonman> sjovan, but my question was system requirements. How fast of a graphics card do I need, etc.
[00:54] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: Got reset :\ http://pastebin.ca/758250
[00:55] <Ben_Cs> hello
[00:55] <Ben_Cs> how do i see from CLI what resolution i'm currently using?
[00:55] <EightyFiveOnline> i see a www no sql in there
[00:55] <fran> cat the xlogs
[00:55] <tcpdumpgod> ok got it hhp2k
[00:56] <Guerra> I can't seem to install the ATI 2900 radeon driver on ubuntu 7.10 x86
[00:56] <Guerra> Any ideas?
[00:56] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k : sudo mkdir /media/oldroot && mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[00:56] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I use kubuntu 7.10 and I have pretty nasty problem with firefox that I cannot fix
[00:56] <cooler> [01:46] <cooler> I cannot install any extensions
[00:56] <cooler> [01:47] <cooler> when I click on a "install now" button in most cases nothing happens
[00:56] <cooler> [01:48] <cooler> sometimes after 4-5min appears pop up for install and when I click on the install button it begins with download but then it forzes I cant continue
[00:56] <Glork> hey, I tried to use the ubuntu LIVE CD and when I ran it, I just saw a screen of lots of colorful lines.
[00:56] <sjovan>  gluonman: i don't know. go to the #compiz channel, or even beter... go to the compiz-webpage.
[00:56] <gluonman> sjovan, thanks.
[00:56] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k oops
[00:56] <tcpdumpgod> not that one, this one
[00:56] <tcpdumpgod> sudo mkdir /media/oldroot && mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1
[00:56] <Guerra> glork, it could be display problems, video card?
[00:56] <tcpdumpgod> sudo mkdir /media/oldroot && mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot
[00:57] <tcpdumpgod> that one
[00:57] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: ?
[00:58] <rust> !
[00:58] <fluffman> I'm trying to get sound working on a latitude cpi d266xt.  I've followed directions on the forums for dapper, but they don't seem to e working.  Can someone talke a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 and let me know if there is something different that I should change?
[00:58] <Glork> Guerra: I've got 2 ACER LCD monitors and an NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
[00:58] <reval> how do i search for packages using apt-get?
[00:58] <zetheroo> whats the best all-round tool for partitioning and formatting hard drives?
[00:58] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo mkdir /media/oldroot && mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[00:58] <zetheroo> GParted seems to be a bit finicky
[00:59] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: What's that going to do?
[00:59] <fluffman> reval: sudo ap-cache search program
[00:59] <fluffman> *apt-cache
[00:59] <tcpdumpgod> thats going to mount the slice you were trying to install on to /media/oldroot so you can erase everything off it.
[00:59] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:59] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: I simply want to delete a few files so I can log back in again.. =\
[01:00] <tcpdumpgod> ok hhp2k that'd mount your root directory to /media/oldroot
[01:00] <hhp2k> okay..
[01:00] <tcpdumpgod> then just "cd /media/oldroot" and delete the files you want deleted
[01:00] <Guerra> glork, try the alternative install, you doing 64 bit or 32 bit? (x86) ?
[01:00] <hhp2k> okay.
[01:00] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[01:00] <nesl247> Guys, what is the best channel to talk about developing apps for ubuntu?
[01:01] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: "mount: only root can do that"
[01:01] <hhp2k> I had sudo prefixed..
[01:01] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo mkdir /media/oldroot && sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:01] <tcpdumpgod> if that does not work hhp2k
[01:01] <tcpdumpgod> then do them one at a time.
[01:01] <tcpdumpgod> "sudo mkdir /media/oldroot"
[01:01] <tcpdumpgod> "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:02] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: "mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/oldroot': File exists"
[01:02] <tcpdumpgod> ok hhp2k
[01:02] <tcpdumpgod> then just do this now "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:02] <Pancakes> Hi, could someone help me setup my wireless router drivers? I think I have to do a ndiswrapper or whatever, but I have no idea how. I just now installed Ubuntu
[01:02] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[01:03] <darkfire> Pancakes: Whats the prob
[01:03] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k you already installed Ubuntu on your 10GB drive correct?
[01:03] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: Yes.
[01:03] <Pancakes> darkfire, the drivers that come with the router are for Windows
[01:03] <Pancakes> So I don't really know what I need to do or anything, so I can have internet
[01:04] <ronin_> Evening everyone. I was wondering if anyone is currently using the latest ATI fglrx drivers successfully for 3d applications? I'm most interested in getting OpenGL apps/games to work.
[01:04] <pkh> is there a better place than here to ask questions about kernel compile problems?
[01:04] <reval> how can i see what packages i have installed?
[01:04] <tcpdumpgod> then just do this now "sudo mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:04] <pkh> standard current ubuntu kerenel-source...
[01:04] <tcpdumpgod> Pancakes you dont need to install drivers for your router sweetie.
[01:04] <[darkfire]> Pancakes:  You said router.  What sort of router is this. What brand
[01:04] <[darkfire]> just like tcpdumpgod said
[01:05] <Pancakes> It's a Wireless Router - WUSB300N Linksys
[01:05] <tcpdumpgod> You just need your ethernet or wireless drivers installed on your desktop/laptop Pancakes
[01:05] <[darkfire]> What kind of adapter is in your computer
[01:05] <[darkfire]> to connect to the Router
[01:05] <Pancakes> USB
[01:06] <[darkfire]> Company and model
[01:06] <tcpdumpgod> ick @ usb
[01:06] <Pancakes> Linksys - WUSB300N
[01:06] <[darkfire]> Thats connected to your computer
[01:06] <astro76> Pancakes, that is not a router, it's a wireless network adapter
[01:07] <[darkfire]> As astro76 said
[01:07] <tcpdumpgod> Pancakes http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3247287&postcount=2
[01:07] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: any other advice?
[01:07] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k did it not mount?
[01:07] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:07] <[darkfire]> Pancakes:  7.10 has better network abilities
[01:07] <Pancakes> Yeah, sorry for the confusion
[01:07] <hhp2k> Last error was "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[01:07] <tcpdumpgod> [darkfire] it still does NOT like USB NIC's?
[01:07] <tcpdumpgod> -? +.
[01:08] <Pancakes> [darkfire], I have 7.10 installed
[01:08] <EightyFiveOnline> how do i start sql
[01:08] <[darkfire]> I use a Netgear WG111v2 with WPA security
[01:08] <[darkfire]> it worked on install
[01:08] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k thats what i put " -t ext3" in there for
[01:08] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: That one gave me "mount: /media/oldroot not mounted already, or bad option"
[01:08] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k try this one again "sudo mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:08] <Pancakes> I don't know how to get it so that my wireless router adapter works, so that I can connect to the internet and etcetera
[01:08] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: Same response
[01:08] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[01:09] <Pancakes> netowkr adapter*
[01:09] <[darkfire]> Pancakes
[01:09] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "mount |grep hda1"
[01:09] <tcpdumpgod> whats that return?
[01:09] <[darkfire]> do you use security on the router
[01:09] <SmileyChris> installed scribus, looks manky - is there something I'm missing to make it look like all my other pretty windows?
[01:09] <Pancakes> What do you mean by security?
[01:09] <hhp2k> tcpdumpgod: /dev/hda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[01:09] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[01:09] <mancrow> or serial port settings
[01:10] <CyberAgeVoodoo> Hello.. quick question are there any good iso burners for linux? like nero for windows?
[01:10] <[darkfire]> Pancakes: Are you use using WEP, WPA
[01:10] <SmileyChris> more specifically, the widgets inside scribus look weird
[01:10] <fluffman> CyberAgeVoodoo: i like k3b
[01:10] <tcpdumpgod> hhp2k "sudo umount /media/disk && sudo mount -t ext3 -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/oldroot"
[01:10] <CyberAgeVoodoo> thanks fluffman
[01:10] <roby> ciao
[01:11] <[darkfire]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:11] <[darkfire]> Pancakes: follow that link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:11] <Pancakes> [darkfire], I'm guessing WEP
[01:13] <CyberAgeVoodoo> fluffman thanks this does look good
[01:14] <keyo> Hi, does anyone know of a proper fix for the laptop hard drive issue?
[01:14] <LjL> keyo: what issue?
[01:14] <cleaton> it depends on what is causing the issue keyo
[01:14] <lowlux> I HAVE A VEO STINGRAY WEB CAM.. HOW DO I CHANGE THE SETTINGS? VIDEO IS TOO DARK?
[01:14] <LjL> !caps | lowlux
[01:14] <ubotu> lowlux: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <cleaton> for most people it's an issue on the firmware/bios side
[01:14] <Pancakes> [darkfire], I'm really unsure of what I need to do. Could you try to help me in query?
[01:15] <keyo> LiL: It parks the heads way to often, I have 40,000 load cycles already
[01:15] <LjL> keyo: ah, that issue. perhaps some information in some of the links here
[01:15] <LjL> !hdbug > keyo    (keyo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:15] <tcpdumpgod> keyo will it boot, do you lear clicking noises.
[01:15] <sammy> how do you mount ntfs?
[01:15] <EdgEy> heya, just installed ubuntu 7.10, wondering what the easiest way to set up dual monitor is. using nvidia-glx drivers right now, only one monitor works
[01:15] <LjL> !ntfs > sammy    (sammy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:15] <cleaton> lowlux, it depends on what you are using it with
[01:15] <tcpdumpgod> !ntfs sammy
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs sammy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <tcpdumpgod> !NTFS sammy
[01:16] <LjL> !dualhead > EdgEy    (EdgEy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <lowlux> STICKAM.COM ?? FIREFOX?
[01:16] <keyo> yea it clicks 4 times a minute
[01:16] <LjL> tcpdumpgod, i've sent it to him already
[01:16] <LjL> !bot > tcpdumpgod    (tcpdumpgod, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <tcpdumpgod> oh okay
[01:17] <sammy> tcpdumpgod: sorry I meant nfs not ntfs
[01:17] <LjL> lowlux, would you kindly type in lowercase as i asked you?
[01:17] <darkblueB|off> Q: newbie.. simple programming text editor for , um, Gnome (default GUI) ???
[01:17] <cleaton> i don't know i haven't heard of a good program that can change the cam settings for flash
[01:17] <LjL> !nfs > sammy    (sammy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <cleaton> been looking for that too
[01:17] <LjL> !code > darkblueB|off    (darkblueB|off, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <Torbul> where is the location of DEBIAN.Readme ? I need to read it
[01:18] <majormancito> hi everyone... a fast question... which is better amsn or monkey messenger?
[01:18] <tritium> Torbul: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/
[01:18] <[darkfire]> Pancakes  I am in private chat with you
[01:18] <nesl247> Guys, what is the best channel to talk about developing apps for ubuntu?
[01:18] <suemeee> majormancito, a third option pidgin or gajim
[01:18] <Torbul> tritium: Thanks
[01:18] <cleaton> majormancito, i guess it depends on what you want to use
[01:19] <LjL> nesl247: #ubuntu-offtopic might be better. if you have a question on what tools you should use, or somesuch, ask here.
[01:19] <lowlux> o.o
[01:19] <majormancito> ok ty xP
[01:19] <darkblueB|off> LjL: thank you
[01:19] <nesl247> alright
[01:19] <mohadib_> hallo
[01:19] <keyo> LjL: I know it's not ubuntu's fault but windows does not load cycle so frequently, I have a hatachi (bad firmware probably). Is there any way to reduce the frequency of cycles.
[01:19] <reval> i installed rails with rubygems, but it isnt fiding rails when i run the command "rails test"
[01:19] <LjL> keyo, maybe, but i don't know about it. i'm sure you'll find some pointers in those links
[01:20] <Pancakes> [darkfire], I don't see it. I just sent you a message but you're not responding
[01:20] <cleaton> keyo, check launchpad i think you can overide the firmware if you use hdparm
[01:20] <LjL> keyo: for instance, that command that is not executed by default... perhaps if it *is* executed with appropriate parameters...
[01:20] <[darkfire]> weird
[01:20] <[darkfire]> I see you
[01:21] <LjL> [darkfire], you're not registered, so you cannot send messages to Pancakes unless PM from unregistered users are enabled for Pancakes
[01:21] <LjL> !register > [darkfire]    ([darkfire], see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:21] <[darkfire]> gah
[01:22] <lowlux> anyone know hwo to change the webcam settings?
[01:22] <sharpie> um, how can I backup all my programs and settings (let's say, if i'm gonna install on another drive)?
[01:22] <LjL> !cloning > sharpie    (sharpie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:22] <Pancakes> LjL, whats the umode for enabling that?
[01:22] <fluffman> !cloning > fluffman
[01:22] <keyo> LjL: thanks, as long as it doesn't go to the other extreme and get really hot
[01:22] <GigaClon> when i do diff before after it just tells me that they differ and not where they differ
[01:23] <LjL> Pancakes: it's not a umode, i think it's a nickserv variable, don't quite remember, try /ns help set - there is something about it on freenode.net as well
[01:23] <Torbul> If I navigate to a folder via gnome gui and I click search and search for something why doesn't it search within that directory? Also, how do I search within a particular directory?
[01:23] <sharpie> um, LjL, what exactly does that backup?
[01:23] <LjL> sharpie: 1) you can get a list of the packages you have installed using the method above  2) to back up your data and personal program settings, you will need to back up your /home  3) if you manually changed anything in /etc, you may want to back it up
[01:23] <LjL> sharpie: it doesn't backup anything, it merely creates a list of the programs you have installed, and you can easily re-install them from that list later
[01:24] <sharpie> LjL: and how about if i wanna backup stuff like, um, my compiz settings?
[01:24] <fluffman> sharpie: all of that is in your home directory
[01:24] <LjL> sharpie, they will be in your /home.
[01:24] <fluffman> just copy an past
[01:24] <fluffman> *paste.  Ubuntu uses config files, not a registry like windows
[01:24] <tristanmike> Hi, can someone please give me a hand...I installed "mplayer" and "mozilla-mplayer" but firefox won't use the mplayer plugin, can someone point me in the right direction please ?
[01:24] <jackal> im getting hardlocks in gutsy.  problem doesnt occur in recovery mode (single user) & the previous versions worked fine on same machine.. any suggestions?
[01:25] <sharpie> LjL: if i backup my entire /home dir and overwrite the other installation...well, will it work?
[01:25] <fluffman> sharpie: yes
[01:25] <tristanmike> also, why is my logon screen resolution different than my desktop resolution...all of this is in Gutsy
[01:25] <LjL> sharpie: what do you mean "overwrite the other installation"?
[01:25] <sharpie> LjL: overwrite the /home dir on the new installation
[01:25] <Torbul> How do I search for a file within a particular directory? When I'm in a directory and click search and then search it does NOT search in that particular direcotry!
[01:26] <LjL> sharpie: yes, that's the idea. only one caveat: if you have more than one user, you might have to make sure the user ID's match. if you only have one user, it will be UID 1000, so that won't be a problem.
[01:26] <sharpie> LjL: ok, thanks
[01:26] <sharpie> LjL: will that backup my programs as well?
[01:27] <Torbul> How do I search for a file within a particular directory?
[01:27] <GigaClon> is a there GNOME GUI for diff?
[01:27] <LjL> sharpie: no, as i told you... backing up /home will back up your *settings*. you *should not* back up your programs - that would result in a mess. just generate a *list* of the programs you have installed, and then reinstall them (which, as the bot said, can be done quite automatically)
[01:27] <NSM> Torbul: #find <dir to search> -name <file>
[01:28] <sharpie> LjL: reinstall using the dpkg thing?
[01:28] <LjL> sharpie: if your internet connection isn't too fast for that to be comfortable, you can possibly back up /var/cache/apt/archives (which contains the .deb files of everything you downloaded)
[01:28] <astro76> GigaClon, try Meld
[01:28] <LjL> !cloning
[01:28] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[01:28] <LjL> sharpie: reinstall using the command above, yes
[01:28] <reval> in which folder does apt-get install packages?  do i need to change my path?
[01:28] <sharpie> LjL: alright
[01:28] <sharpie> LjL: i'm gonna just install win and linux on separate drives
[01:29] <MilitantPotato> sharpie: you can have synaptic output a file of installed packages, which you can have syanptic re-install after a reformat, if you do as LjL said, you won't even notice ya had a re-format.
[01:29] <LjL> reval, apt-get doesn't install packages in any particular directory. files are scattered into many directories depending on their *purpose*, so for instance, documentation is usually in /usr/share/doc. type « dpkg -L packagename » to see a list of all the files that belong to a certain package
[01:29] <piolong> hello anybody speak chinese
[01:29] <LjL> !cn | piolong
[01:29] <ubotu> piolong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:29] <sharpie> MilitantPotato: is there an option incide synaptic?
[01:29] <jackal> !automate
[01:29] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:29] <MilitantPotato> sharpie: yes
[01:30] <sharpie> MilitantPotato: where? :O
[01:30] <MilitantPotato> sharpie: file>save markings
[01:30] <Torbul> NSM: Thanks, but how do I search for an exact match? When I do "find /usr/share/doc README.Debian" for example it returns a bunch of crap other than the README.Debian file
[01:30] <sharpie> MilitantPotato: what happens if i check "save full state"?
[01:30] <LjL> Torbul, what you typed is not what NSM told you to type
[01:31] <MilitantPotato> sharpie: you get a much bigger file that contains every package available I guess.
[01:31] <sharpie> MilitantPotato: hm, i did the save markings thing
[01:31] <sharpie> MilitantPotato: it just created a 0 byte file
[01:31] <NSM> Torbul: find /usr/share/doc -name README.Debian
[01:32] <tristanmike> Hi, can someone please give me a hand...I have just installed Gutsy, and installed "mplayer" and "mozilla-mplayer" but firefox won't use the mplayer plugin and still uses totem, can someone point me in the right direction please and thanks please ?
[01:32] <Torbul> k
[01:32] <los> is there any (whole) disk checking utility for ubuntu? (only obuntu in computer)
[01:32] <LadyNikon> !update
[01:32] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:32] <LjL> los: what do you mean "whole"?
[01:33] <LjL> los: do you want to check the filesystem, or do you want to check the actual physical disk?
[01:33] <los> is there any (whole) disk checking utility for errors on ubuntu ? (only obuntu in computer) i mean all the data disk for errors....
[01:33] <LjL> !fsck > los    (los, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:33] <suemeee> los, you mean bad blocks ?
[01:34] <los> yes i think..
[01:34] <cleaton> lowlux, did you ever get help with your cam question?
[01:34] <jackal> getting hardlocks in gutsy.  problem doesnt occur in recovery mode (single user) & the previous releases have always worked fine on same machine.. any suggestions?
[01:34] <los> bad sectors...etc
[01:34] <reval> i added usr/bin/gem to the path and reloaded the .profile with command ".~ /.profile" , but still "rails test" does not work
[01:34] <brupm> Hi guys!
[01:35] <lowlux> no
[01:35] <brupm> I am trying to make a folder's group owner stick. In other words, I want to any file touched in there to remain owned by the same group.
[01:35] <LjL> los, bad sectors are automatically discarded when they're found. what you might want to try is "smartmontools" (run "smartctl -A /dev/yourdrive"), which will give you an assessment of your HD's health based on its internal sensors
[01:35] <cleaton> lowlux, try and install  camorama
[01:35] <brupm> I can manually change it with chmod, but as soon another user touches it, it changes ownership again
[01:36] <tcpdumpgod> brupm chattr it.
[01:36] <brupm> tcpdumpgod: what is that?
[01:36] <tcpdumpgod> "man chattr"
[01:36] <brian_> how do i turn on mysql
[01:36] <fluffman> I'm trying to get sound working on a latitude cpi d266xt.  I've followed directions on the forums for dapper, but they don't seem to e working.  Can someone talke a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 and let me know if there is something different that I should change to get this working in gutsy?
[01:37] <brupm> tcpdumpgod: will that make the group ownership persistant?
[01:37] <jb47> just burned cd of xubuntu and in live boot works well on laptop but long boot time. on dell desktop seems to boot ok but after deskstop [brown] starts to appear the screen goes black-blank-black and the boot process stalls-stops. ideas? suggestions? is this unique to xubuntu or has anyone also had this happen in ubuntu? steps
[01:37] <LjL> brupm: what about chmod +s directory?
[01:37] <tcpdumpgod> brupm http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_chattr.htm
[01:38] <LadyNikon> hmm
[01:38] <LadyNikon> anyone having problems with some oftheir repositories?
[01:38] <brupm> LjL: I tried chmod g+s before S is not available it tells me to use +t
[01:38] <Speckmade> what about harddisk defragmentation on Linux? isn't it necessary? is there any software for that?
[01:38] <kst> when I run a session with Xgl enabled, my screen seems to be not capped on the right side (like extended/big desktop) and my session just crashes after a few moments, without even showing gome panels etc.
[01:39] <fluffman> Speckmade: it's not necessary.  ext3 > ntfs
[01:39] <LjL> brupm: note it's a lowercase 's'... it really *should* work i believe.
[01:39] <roy> speck i like your question too
[01:39] <LjL> brupm: can you pastebin the whole thing - command and error?
[01:39] <LadyNikon> security and us.archive isnt working for me
[01:39] <taime1> why does ubuntu come to almost a halt when there is no internet connection present?
[01:39] <taime1> it drags so terribly
[01:40] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 the whole OS, or the web browsing...
[01:40] <nhuisman> should the latest version of ubuntu automatically detect two monitors?
[01:40] <nhuisman> or do I have to edit the xorg.conf
[01:40] <roy> tai never had that happen
[01:40] <taime1> tcpdumpgod:  the OS, there is no internet connection to browse
[01:40] <nhuisman> the screen and graphics properties config doesn't show my second screen
[01:40] <tcpdumpgod> nhuisman dependant on the monitor type... it SHOULD.
[01:40] <cleaton> nhuisman, i think the driver should detect it
[01:40] <LadyNikon> taime1: do you have stuff checking the net?
[01:40] <NSM> taimel: I dropped my internet connection mid install and had the same problem, I believe it's because the install is searching for updates but do not know for sure.
[01:41] <nhuisman> guess I can add it in xorg and then see if it will let me xinerama it
[01:41] <taime1> LadyNikon:  no
[01:41] <nhuisman> wait yeah isn't that part of the card
[01:41] <boontoo> Anyway to do a ubuntu scanner that gets rid of all the crap you dont need?
[01:41] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 so if your internet goes down then clicking crap on the desktop and what not take a long time?
[01:41] <NSM> taimel: as soon as I had a connection the install restarted right away.
[01:41] <cleaton> nhuisman, you have 7.10?
[01:41] <nhuisman> this is an 8800 gts
[01:41] <nhuisman> yeah
[01:41] <Speckmade> and what about defragmentation with vfat partitions? is this whole defragmentation thing just a conspiracy like the firewall thing? can somebody point me to some resources for fut
[01:41] <Speckmade> rther reading?
[01:41] <fluffman> nhuisman: is that an nvidia?
[01:41] <nhuisman> yes
[01:42] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 ?
[01:42] <fluffman> gksude nvidia-settings
[01:42] <craigbass1976> A friend is having an issue with firefox and youtube.  It seems (I've only seen it once) that hitting the back button causes FF to lock up/crash.  I copied my firefox folder over to his home directory and he has the same issue still.
[01:42] <fluffman> *gksudo
[01:42] <cleaton> nhuisman, system > adniminstration > screens and graphics
[01:42] <taime1> tcpdumpgod:  even if i boot into the os when its not connected, the desktop takes forever to load and programs are VERY slow to start and use... this is a problem for a LOT of people online, but there has been no answer....
[01:42] <cleaton> or use nvidia-settings
[01:42] <cleaton> i use nvidia settings
[01:42] <nhuisman> cleaton, yeah it's not in there
[01:42] <kst> how do you reinstall Xgl? i removed it with apt-get using --purge and reinstalled it (xserver-xgl that is).. but somehow my resolution is broken (i think) and my session just crashes after a few moments
[01:42] <craigbass1976> There is a FF update he was doing when I talked to him last, but I was curious if anyone else had run into this.  I have not personally
[01:42] <nhuisman> do I have to install nvidia settings?
[01:42] <fluffman> nhuisman, no
[01:42] <nhuisman> nevermind it was just not autocompleting
[01:42] <fluffman> it works if you have nvidia-glx-new installed
[01:43] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 do me a favor and open up a terminal... then issue the command "top".
[01:43] <cleaton> fluffman, you get nvidia-settings with the driver in the repo?
[01:43] <LjL> Speckmade, FAT gets fragmented quite easily, however, i don't believe there are Linux tools to defragment it
[01:43] <nhuisman> god
[01:43] <nhuisman> it's retarded how hot those chips run idle
[01:43] <nhuisman> 58c
[01:43] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 after that, unplug your internet connection and see if any processes go haywire... i bet thats what it is.
[01:43] <LjL> !language
[01:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:43] <redheat> hi everyone..
[01:43] <cleaton> nhuisman, your graphics card is 58c?
[01:43] <taime1> tcpdumpgod:  meh, im not at the computer... i just figured since everyone else online using ubuntu up to feisty, was experiencing this, there would be an easy answer
[01:43] <boontoo> Anyway to do a ubuntu scanner that gets rid of all the crap you dont need?
[01:43] <redheat> ok I want you all to help me on this problem..
[01:44] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues connecting to security and us.archive's repositories?
[01:44] <LjL> LadyNikon: security connects here, don't know about us.
[01:44] <confuzed> Can anyone tell me how/if I can change a folders icon from within a shell script.
[01:44] <osxdude> It's pronounced ooo-boont-ooo , right?
[01:44] <tcpdumpgod> taime1 im using gutsy (and feisty before that) and never had that issue.
[01:45] <LjL> !pronounce > osxdude    (osxdude, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:45] <osxdude> uh
[01:45] <co_blue_devil> surabaya
[01:45] <NSM> taimel: maybe just me but w/o an internet connection I hung during the install and as soon as I plugged in my ethernet cable the install restarted as fast as it started.
[01:45] <pfak> Anyone have any guides for tuning I/O on 2.6? I'm having issues where heavy IO on a software RAID1 is locking up the system pretty badly...
[01:45] <osxdude> BTW, guys there is two ubotus
[01:45] <fluffman> cleaton: nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx-new (the driver) are two seperate packages.  installing one will remove the other.
[01:45] <cleaton> taime1, it's not a problem for me, maybe you have ntp in autostart?
[01:45] <cleaton> fluffman, oh ok
[01:45] <LjL> !test > LjL    (LjL, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:46] <fluffman> BUT, you can still run "sudo nvidia-setting" without uninstalling nvidia-glx-new
[01:46] <nhuisman> laugh
[01:46] <MilitantPotato> argh, sharpie left.
[01:46] <nhuisman> boy my desk looks ridiculous
[01:46] <nhuisman> 2x 24inch monitors, then on top of that 2x 20 inch monitors
[01:46] <nhuisman> two boxes running synergy
[01:46] <osxdude> Your welcome, LjL
[01:46] <redheat> I have a new laptop with a built in 8400 GSM nvidia video card, so I said why not try the restricted drivers the 100.14.19 that come with ubuntu, so I downloaded them via the synaptec manager, installed them, and two things I noticed: 1. in comparison to using the usual nvidia drivers which we download from nvidia and use, these drivers are dead slow.. I mean real SLOOOW..second, they don't come with an nvidia settings manager instlaled so I headed back t
[01:46] <redheat> o the synaptec manager and tried to download the nvidia settings, and the first thing it told me..if I want the nvidia settings I need to remove the nvidia-new-glx drivers..in other words if I wanna install the settings manager for hte nvidia drivers..I need to uninstall the nvidia drivers..
[01:46] <osxdude> Woha
[01:46] <osxdude> Calm down there :P
[01:47] <redheat> which leads us back to square one..how on earth is it possible tohave a hassle free installation with drivers like these
[01:47] <nhuisman> i dunno redheat my nvidia setup worked fine
[01:47] <nhuisman> with the latest ubuntu
[01:47] <fluffman> redheat: you can still run "sudo nvidia-setting" without uninstalling nvidia-glx-new
[01:47] <MilitantPotato> off to play live for speed, goodnight all
[01:47] <redheat> how?
[01:47] <fluffman> just type it
[01:48] <fluffman> alt-f2
[01:48] <redheat>  I mean whether you do it through a terminal or get it through the synaptic maanger.
[01:48] <fluffman> *and it's "nvidia-settings"
[01:48] <redheat> I know what youŕe saying fluffman...I get the same result..
[01:48] <fluffman> hmm...it worked for me just yeseterday
[01:48] <Kalamansi> hello is it possible to run dreamweavercs3 and photoshopcs3 in ubuntu 7.04? - windows users here trying to migrate ubuntu.
[01:48] <redheat> yeah I know. the question is guys do you have a the new 8 series cards or the old ones? cause these babies are causing a lot of trouble
[01:49] <SonicJsxx> hi all
[01:49] <EightyFiveOnline> how can i check ifsql is on?
[01:49] <redheat> hi
[01:49] <fluffman> Kalamansi: it's not easy to do
[01:49] <fluffman> you could try something like vmware
[01:50] <Kalamansi> fluffman: im not familiar with unix.tho i tried to install some.how about "wine" ?
[01:50] <redheat> not me fluffman, it didn't work for me at all..
[01:50] <Kalamansi> im not sure about "wine" thing
[01:50] <cleaton> Kalamansi, it dosen't work in wine
[01:50] <redheat> really really a joy killer
[01:50] <Kalamansi> been windows user since i was born
[01:50] <lolgenik> why is ubuntu free
[01:50] <cleaton> but if you use a vm it should work
[01:50] <atlfalcons866> is 20k inodes a lot
[01:50] <foug> what's a really easy to use ID3 editing program? One that lets me mass delete tags etc
[01:50] <LjL> lolgenik: why shouldn't it be? anyway, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel :)
[01:50] <Kuprin> hey all, how's Gutsy for speed? I'm having weird random slowdowns in X on this laptop...I'm not sure if ubu will fix it or not.
[01:50] <Kalamansi> cleaton: is there a way that dreamweavercs3 and photoshop cs3 could run in ubuntu?
[01:51] <foug> Kuprin: i downgraded to 7.04 today
[01:51] <fluffman> Kalamansi: wine won't work unless you install it in windows first, and even then it's not easy
[01:51] <lolgenik> lol ubuntu is so much work time
[01:51] <lolgenik> why would it be free
[01:51] <Bigs> I need help with my new webcam, wich works great with camorama! (thanks for that advice) But I want to use skype and Im having a hard time configing it.  My model is logitech QuickCam Communicate STX
[01:51] <cleaton> Kalamansi, yes there is, you could install windows inside ubuntu and run it from there
[01:51] <Bigs> any suggestions?
[01:51] <fluffman> Kalamansi: try installing vmware
[01:51] <LjL> or virtualbox
[01:51] <Bigs> i wanna avoid vmware (aware that wasnt for me)
[01:51] <brupm> LjL: +s worked but all the folder have a red background now
[01:52] <fluffman> oh yeah, virtualbox...I couldn't think of that one
[01:52] <Kuprin> foug, I see...I didn't find 7.04 remotely stable >_>
[01:52] <LjL> brupm: uh no idea about that. i'm not using nautilus
[01:52] <SonicJsxx> Would it be possible to have a KDE desktop with ubuntu?
[01:52] <foug> Kuprin: >_< lol
[01:52] <Bigs> I assume if my webcam works in camorama, skype should be able to config it
[01:52] <tronyx> SonicJsxx, yes
[01:52] <LjL> !kde > SonicJsxx    (SonicJsxx, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:52] <cleaton> bigs does skype suport webcam on linux?
[01:52] <Kalamansi> cleaton: and still i will buy windows licenses??
[01:52] <Kalamansi> fluffman:  install vmware in ubuntu?
[01:52] <fluffman> Kalamansi: yes
[01:52] <Bigs> yes
[01:52] <cleaton> Kalamansi, yes that's :(
[01:52] <SonicJsxx> K thanks
[01:53] <tronyx> can anyone tell me why my conky disappears if a drag a program over the display?  once i remove it there is a part like...chopped out of it but shortly after that it returns to normal
[01:53] <cleaton> Kalamansi, i know photoshop cs 2 works under wine
[01:53] <foug> what's a really easy to use ID3 editing program? One that lets me mass delete tags etc
[01:53] <Kalamansi> fluffman: thats stupidity. we are trying to migrate ubuntu because it is free...
[01:53] <fluffman> yeah i'm sorry
[01:53] <Kuprin> foug, I'm going to see if 6.06 runs better than mint
[01:53] <Kuprin> If it does it gets a cookie and I try newer versions
[01:53] <fluffman> i personally use the GIMP, Kalamansi
[01:53] <LjL> Kalamansi: well, dreamwaver and photoshop aren't exactly free either
[01:53] <Bigs> ill look into it more before I annoy you guys bout this
[01:53] <Kalamansi> cleaton: install wine in windows xp?
[01:53] <foug> Kuprin: let me know if it does, i've never used anything before 7.04
[01:53] <Bigs> thank you
[01:53] <cleaton> Kalamansi, for more information on what you can run using wine, check this page http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2631
[01:53] <tupac> mint is crap than 6.0
[01:53] <fluffman> but I know it's nowhere NEAR as good as photoshop
[01:53] <Kuprin> tupac, Mint is crap on this lappy, it runs GREAT on my other one
[01:54] <cleaton> Kalamansi, no you don't have to install xp if you use wine, wine is something that can help you run windows stuff on linux without having to install windows itself
[01:54] <Kalamansi> fluffman its like photoshop right?gimp
[01:54] <tupac> ls it that's different now
[01:54] <fluffman> yes gimp is like photoshop
[01:54] <LjL> Kalamansi: it's an image editing application, "like photoshop" doesn't really mean much
[01:54] <redheat> ok guys see ya all later..you all take care and have a nice day
[01:55] <fluffman> you could try nvu for a web editor
[01:55] <fluffman> or amaya
[01:55] <syc_> greeting
[01:55] <fluffman> but again, they aren't as powerful
[01:55] <LjL> !nvu
[01:55] <ubotu> kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[01:55] <cleaton> Kalamansi, gimp is available for windows too if you want to check it out
[01:56] <tupac> later guys. nite nite
[01:56] <Kuprin> I have FOUR nymphs screwing me over, one levelported already
[01:56] <SonicJsxx> Hey, is it possible to have ubuntu format the hard drive and then install? I want to put ubuntu over an instalation of Suse.
[01:56] <Kuprin> oh wait, this isn't #nethack
[01:56] <Kuprin> my bad.
[01:56] <Kuprin> wrong channel.
[01:56] <Kuprin> btw, Dapper's already up and running. That was impressively fast.
[01:56] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues connecting to security and us.archive's repositories?
[01:56] <SonicJsxx> Oh, nvm I see the option
[01:57] <fluffman> SonicJsxx: yes.  just choose "guided: use entire disk" when installing
[01:57] <SonicJsxx> K thanks
[01:57] <skeet> ok i actually have kubuntu but noone helps me on that channel so hopefuly someone will here
[01:57] <CochiseIRL> skeet, what you need help with?
[01:57] <skeet> my proble, is that i cant get desktop effects or compizfuion to work
[01:57] <tronyx> can anyone tell me why my conky disappears if a drag a program over the display?  once i remove it there is a part like...chopped out of it but shortly after that it returns to normal
[01:57] <skeet> whenever i try my screen freezes
[01:57] <CochiseIRL> skeet, type of video card?
[01:58] <cleaton> !compiz | skeet
[01:58] <ubotu> skeet: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:58] <skeet> ati radeon 9550
[01:58] <syc_> what a bot
[01:58] <syc_> :D
[01:58] <NSM> Kalamansi: If cost and administration is an issue Citrix or Sunrays may be an option to look at.
[01:58] <CochiseIRL> skeet, you need to get the newest driver from the ati site or enable an xgl session, i have a guide here on how to install the new driver one sec
[01:59] <skeet> ok thank you
[01:59] <Lockzi> Could someone please help me activate zlib on ubuntu? I've done apt-get install zlib1g (which downloads zlib), and now I need to know how to activate it in PHP/Apache
[01:59] <fluffman> I'm trying to get sound working on an old Dell latitude cpi d266xt.  I've followed directions on the forums for dapper, but they don't seem to be working.  Can someone take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 and let me know if there is something different that I should change to get this working in gutsy?
[02:00] <HealthyElijah> Help meee, please!
[02:00] <HealthyElijah> i upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 and it keeps freezing
[02:00] <flyingape> HOW I INSTALL FLUXBOX ON MY UBUNTU!!???
[02:00] <cleaton> flyingape, no need for caps
[02:00] <flyingape> CLEATON HELP ME PLEASE
[02:01] <Lockzi> flyingape: haha
[02:01] <los> i open the open office word normally but when im trying to open some tools,features from it after i press them it just dont respond....
[02:01] <cleaton> wow
[02:01] <cleaton> take it easy
[02:01] <flyingape> :(
[02:01] <LadyNikon> why are you yelling? calm down..
[02:01] <LjL> !caps | flyingape
[02:01] <ubotu> flyingape: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:01] <CochiseIRL> skeet, this is for ubuntu no kubuntu but it should work more or less, in step 2, use manual removeal, in step 10 instead of nano use kate, ok? be careful you could wreck your config here and have to re-install, heres the link: http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support
[02:01] <flyingape> wops
[02:01] <bitwize> halp
[02:02] <flyingape> i want take away this shit nome and put in fluxbox
[02:02] <flyingape> how i do?
[02:02] <LjL> !language
[02:02] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:02] <cleaton> flyingape, use synaptic or apt or whatever and search for fluxbox
[02:02] <cleaton> !fluxbox
[02:02] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[02:02] <Lockzi> !zlib
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zlib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <kst> does compiz work for anyone with fglrx 8.40?
[02:02] <kst> + xgl
[02:02] <cleaton> !fluxbox | flyingape
[02:02] <ubotu> flyingape: please see above
[02:02] <CochiseIRL> skeet, also in step 4 use kate instead of gedit
[02:02] <flyingape> ok thanks
[02:03] <los> i open the open office word normally but when im trying to open some tools,features from it after i press them it just dont respond.... why?
[02:03] <CochiseIRL> kst, if you use the newest driver 8.42.3 you dont need xgl, its much better
[02:03] <funkyFlash> Greetings all, I feel like I'm not getting as many updates as I should.  I beta tested 7.10, and I never had to do an "upgrade" on release day.  Is there a difference between 7.10 and 7.10 beta, and if so, how can I tell them apart?
[02:03] <bitwize> i can has xinput eventz? I just did an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy on my TabletPC -- and the Wacom serial tablet built into the machine still works, but does not yield XInput events, nor is it listed as an extended device when I do 'xinput list'
[02:03] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[02:03] <oz_> any1 knows how to fix broken usb mounting in gutsy ?
[02:03] <kst> CochiseIRL performance was really bad for me... like unusable and still plenty of problems with opengl games
[02:03] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues connecting to security and us.archive's repositories?
[02:04] <kousotu> !dvd
[02:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:04] <LjL> funkyFlash, there is a difference between 7.10 final and 7.10 beta, but not between 7.10 final and the stuff that was in the repositories a couple of days before final.
[02:04] <LjL> !final > funkyFlash    (funkyFlash, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:04] <Lockzi> No one here has managed to activate zlib for php in ubuntu?
[02:04] <mancrow> is there anyone that can help me
[02:04] <craigbass1976> mancrow, I might.  WHat exactly are you trying to do
[02:04] <oz_> mancrow, what is the problem ?
[02:04] <LadyNikon> mancrow: ask your question
[02:05] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[02:05] <mancrow> i have a question about the com port settings i am trying to find them
[02:05] <CochiseIRL> kst, im the opposite buggy until i used 8.42.3, opengl is perfect for me, love linux everyoneś different, i found xgl very slow, you could try it not much to change back if it doesnt work
[02:05] <mancrow> opps
[02:05] <mancrow> sorry double post
[02:05] <mancrow> or the serial port setting same thing
[02:05] <craigbass1976> mancrow, actually that's triple if you count the one a while back.  Settle down when you ask a question; someone will be along
[02:05] <funkyFlash> LjL, thanks.  I've done all that, and I think I'm ok.  I just wanted to be sure.
[02:05] <brupm> LjL: thank you immensely
[02:05] <mancrow> ok sorry
[02:06] <bitwize> mancrow: have you tried setserial?
[02:06] <kousotu> !medibuntu
[02:06] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:06] <flyingape> ok thanks for help all i go now
[02:06] <tronyx> Does anyone have much experience editing .conkyrc files?
[02:06] <Kuprin> medibuntu sounds a lot more usable.
[02:06] <bitwize> You have to apt-get install it but you can use it to set -- or get -- settings for your machine's serial ports
[02:07] <mancrow> ok who do i do that
[02:07] <mancrow> sudo apt-get what
[02:07] <Kalamansi> so there is no way to run dreamweavercs3 and phothoshopcs3 in ubuntu 7.4? microsoft kills us here..we cant afford to buy licensed OS huhuhu.im a programmer.im using photoshopcs3/dreamweavercs3/miscrosoft visual basic IIS
[02:07] <bitwize> sudo apt-get install setserial
[02:07] <bitwize> and then read the man pages carefully. You will probably need to be root to use it.
[02:07] <kst> CochiseIRL whats your graphics card? Im running an x700
[02:07] <craigbass1976> mancrow, are you answering someone?  I don't see any responses to your com port.  I'm still not sure what you're asking
[02:08]  * LadyNikon sighs
[02:08] <CochiseIRL> kst,  x300
[02:08] <kst> CochiseIRL and I already tried 8.43 after like 2h it was out.. and it didnt work properly, maybe there's some tweaks to it?
[02:08] <cleaton> Kalamansi, i think you're stuck if you have to use those, atleast for now :/
[02:08] <visualdeception> tronyx there is a whole post of different .conkyrc files in the forums....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865 for examples
[02:08] <bitwize> craigbass1976: did you ignore me?
[02:08] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues connecting to security and us.archive's repositories?
[02:08] <fluffman> mancrow: open synaptic under system > admin, and search for "setserial"
[02:08] <mancrow> i installed it
[02:08] <CochiseIRL> kst, i followed a blog by a guy named forlong, http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support
[02:08] <mancrow> now how i get the setting is it under sysem
[02:09] <gerro> I keep getting this error on an app "Cannot load ZLib: /usr/lib/libz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" why is that?
[02:09] <craigbass1976> bitwize, not on purpose.  I see your reply now.  :)
[02:09] <HealthyElijah> LadyNikon: i just downloaded 13 updates from there, worked great!
[02:09] <tronyx> visualdeception that's fine, it's not getting it configured, it's getting it to stop freaking out when there is a program on top of it after that program is minimzed
[02:09] <bitwize> As root do a "setserial /dev/ttyS0"
[02:09] <tronyx> i can't find anything close to the same problem
[02:09] <LadyNikon> hmm
[02:09] <LjL> Kalamansi, you can't afford Windows, but you can afford Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Visual Basic? i mean, wow. but seriously, WINE is cool to use a Windows application once in a while, despite glitches - or if one is really lucky, their favorite application may be among the few that run perfectly well. but you're asking for a bit too much there.
[02:09] <Kuprin> Now the big question: Gnome, or Fluxbuntu?
[02:09] <NSM> Kalamansi: if you can't find the answer on google or here I think your best bet would be Citrix since you seem to be limited by cost.
[02:09] <bitwize> Fluxbuntu.
[02:10] <visualdeception> tronyx # Use double buffering (reduces flicker, may not work for everyone)
[02:10] <visualdeception> double_buffer yes
[02:10] <mancrow> that is all i have to do
[02:10] <tronyx> double buffering is on, as is own window
[02:10] <Kalamansi> LjL: no no.i work in a company yes they can afford.but i want to make my own business.im tired of policy and rules of my company
[02:10] <bitwize> So um, anyone else having trouble getting their TabletPC pointer to work as an extended device?
[02:10] <mancrow> now how i change settings
[02:10]  * Kuprin uses Fluxbox on his Gentoo box so I'm leaning towards it, I'm more wondering about the maturity of it and how well it runs.
[02:10] <LjL> Kalamansi: well, you'll still need to pay licenses for Photoshop, Dreamweaver and VB, won't you?
[02:11] <Kalamansi> NSM:  Citrix? sorry not familiar.im a windows user.please explain..i need your advice..thanks
[02:11] <LadyNikon> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[02:11] <gerro> Kalamansi: gimp and gthumb, komposer, loads of visual basic ide's. You might want to try checking for open source alternatives for those things
[02:11] <LjL> i think that bundle is more expensive than Windows
[02:11] <HealthyElijah> how in the heck do i get rid of these people joining and leaving?????
[02:11] <LadyNikon> thats what i get
[02:11] <pinion> So I have Ubunto 7.10 installed and I typed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  How can I get rid of it?
[02:11] <HealthyElijah> i dont care if they are joining or leaving
[02:11] <EdgEy> ps alone is more expensive than windows :)
[02:11] <bitwize> XInput says it found the device.
[02:11] <kst> HealthyElijah a quick workaround would be /part #ubuntu
[02:11] <kst> else: just sort out your irc client
[02:11] <LjL> pinion: sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop, but LOOK at what it's going to remove before you say "Yes"
[02:11] <EdgEy> and VB in wine ? seems a bit awkward to be programming in windows.. in linux
[02:11] <HealthyElijah> hah
[02:11] <funkyFlash> kalamansi, you seem to have yourself a paradox, you want to be cost effective by using linux, but you're depending on three of the most proprietary, expensive pieces of software on the market.
[02:11] <pinion> Or, I have KDE and Gnome installed on my machine adn want Gnome to now be the default.  How do I change it
[02:11] <pinion> ljl: thanks
[02:12] <HealthyElijah> .part #ubuntu
[02:12] <bitwize> Kalamansi: Install Vista and be done with it.
[02:12] <Kalamansi> LjL: what i mean is..use ubuntu..then install this cs3 products without license is illegal right.what if i will use in home?
[02:12] <LjL> pinion, to just make it the default, why don't you simply select it as a session in GDM? it will stick.
[02:12] <cleaton> Kuprin, i like gnome, mostly because i like the fluffy compiz stuff xD
[02:12] <visualdeception> tronyx have you tried #conky?
[02:12] <pinion> ljl: because kde dm is coming up now or I would
[02:12] <NSM> Kalamansi: After your last post will prob. not be an option.  Citrix is client/server software where you can buy one OS/application license and multiple users can access.
[02:12] <bitwize> no one else having TabletPC issues with Gutsy?
[02:12] <Kalamansi> funkyFlash: to less the cost..what are the alternatives of dreamweavercs3 and photoshopcs3?and microsoft visual basic IIS?
[02:13] <tronyx> no but i will now
[02:13] <LjL> Kalamansi, it's illegal to use Photoshop & friends without a license (at home or at work), just as it's illegal to use Windows without a license. Due disclaimer, i am not a lawyer.
[02:13] <cleaton> Kalamansi, if you don't pay the license it's illegal
[02:13] <HealthyElijah> funny stuff
[02:13] <LjL> pinion: then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[02:13] <pinion> ljl: thanks
[02:13] <LjL> Kalamansi, you've been told like three times...
[02:13] <LjL> Kalamansi: alternatives to Photoshop: the GIMP, Krita, or the non-free Pixel32
[02:13] <bitwize> Kalamansi: Emacs, GIMP, and er... Python.
[02:13] <LjL> Kalamansi: alternative to Dreamweaver: Kompozer
[02:13] <gerro> Kalamansi: IIS? apache
[02:13] <pinion> ljl: that worked.  Thanks a bunch!
[02:14] <LjL> Kalamansi: alternatives to VB: i haven't the slighest idea
[02:14] <EdgEy> alternative to VB .. don't exist
[02:14] <LjL> Kalamansi: do you specifically need VB?
[02:14] <bitwize> Mono has a VB compiler now, I think.
[02:14] <cleaton> Kalamansi, for webdevelopment i recomend aptana, or programming in general eclipse
[02:14] <gerro> Kalamansi: I use scite editor and fbc compiler for basic
[02:14] <FiShYmAn> what folder do i create to get /~username
[02:14] <gerro> Kalamansi: compiled with that I can generate cross platform basic apps (kinda crappy but least its something, more a learning thing)
[02:14] <FiShYmAn> on apache/ubuntu
[02:15] <bitwize> who has a TabletPC?
[02:15] <gerro> Kalamansi, clearton: webmin awesome webservers ^^
[02:15] <_6StringKng_> any programs I can use in ubuntu to edit media info like properties" in windows?
[02:15] <vincent> vvvvv
[02:16] <gerro> _6stringKng_: try Kino
[02:16] <lunin> Does anyone know how to get the speakers and headphones to operate on different channels or something so I can listen just through the headphones?
[02:16] <_6StringKng_> kj
[02:16] <passbe> Does anyone have a detailed guide, on how to setup a local imap server ?? there are some on the forums but not detailed enough
[02:16] <_6StringKng_> also, my frigging ¨ have been super tiny, and I have to hit shift like twice ever since I installed 7.10, any ideas why?>
[02:17] <bitwize> Does anyone have a TabletPC? I've a working TabletPC tablet but it's not showing as an XInput device -- hence, no pressure events.
[02:17] <gerro> lunin: if for some reason your sound card isn't muting the speakers when headphones are plugged in then lower pcm to 0 and raise headphone setting, try alsamixer if regular mixer doesn't work
[02:17] <Kalamansi> cleaton: aptana and general eclipse is for ubuntu?
[02:17] <Kalamansi> cleaton:and its free too?
[02:17] <cleaton> Kalamansi, yes
[02:18] <bitwize> Do you have to do something to enable XInput extended devices on gutsy?
[02:18] <chipbuddy> i want to play Go on gutsy. i don't mind playing against a computer because i'm really not very good. does anyone know the name of something i can search for in the synaptic package manager?
[02:18] <cleaton> Kalamansi, check out http://www.eclipse.org/ and http://www.aptana.com/ . aptana has a free version and a pro version
[02:18] <bitwize> erm, go?
[02:18] <gfh> f
[02:19] <gerro> bitwize: yeah old chinese chess like game but 1 vs 1 sort of like checkers right chipbuddy?
[02:19] <NSM> Kalamansi: For someone looking to start a business you sure are looking for a lot of free software.
[02:19] <chipbuddy> yeah that's it
[02:19] <bitwize> I know what it is, but have you tried putting "go" into the search box?
[02:20] <chipbuddy> bitwize i have, but it comes up with a lot of responses
[02:20] <gerro> chipbuddy: try searching for gnome games, think there is a similar game in there or perhaps eboard and get a plugin for it
[02:20] <Kalamansi> cleaton: ok thanks for the advices.guys thanks..my copany's licensed OS are now 38 genuine xp home.and corporate cs3 and MS visual basic IIS..we are trying to migrate to unix (ubuntu)
[02:20] <gerro> chipbuddy: if all else fails try www.sourceforge.org see if any in development
[02:21] <Kalamansi> if we can find alternatives of CS3 products and MS visual basic IIS...as iin SAME features of dreamweavercs3 and pthoshopcs3 MS visual basic IIS
[02:21] <EdgEy> well
[02:21] <darkblueB> hello: fresh gutsy install.. libreadline.so.5: undefined symbol : PC ????
[02:21] <cleaton> Kalamansi, ok :) good that you are looking for alternatives. wish you luck =)
[02:21] <Kalamansi> we are tired of windows errors...bluescreens and etc..hangers and etc
[02:22] <EdgEy> visual basic is a windows programming language , it is built for windows how you could duplicate that on linux i have no idea
[02:22] <EdgEy> lol
[02:22] <LadyNikon> !repository
[02:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:22] <bitwize> the Xorg log file indicates the "stylus", "cursor", and "eraser" devices were present, as well as the "Synaptics Touchpad" device; however "xinput -l" or "xidump list" list only "pointer" and "keyboard".
[02:22] <Kalamansi> cleaton: yes thanks.what if we will use ubuntu 7.4..what are the alternatives of dreamweavercs3 / photoshopcs3 and MS visual basic IIS? need your hand guys
[02:23] <bitwize> and it's driving me nuts because I used wacdump to make sure the device worked; and X indicates it's working, but it's not appearing as an XInput device.
[02:23] <bitwize> so... any ideas?
[02:23] <cleaton> Kalamansi, i don't know on proffesional level. as i'm just a hobby user
[02:23] <cleaton> eclipse is used widly even if you use windows
[02:24] <strangeintp> hello... I have a package install question, if anyone can help
[02:24] <cleaton> i don't know how it compares to ms visual basic as i've never used that
[02:24] <sung> hey guys, quick question
[02:24] <sung> i grabbed and unpacked linux-source-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:24] <bitwize> Kalamansi: Use Emacs to write your HTML, GIMP to draw your graphics and script your web site with Python. (I recommend web.py.)
[02:24] <strangeintp> re:  vis basic - huh?  people still use that?  hehe
[02:24] <LjL> Kalamansi: you won't find anything with the EXACT SAME features as those three. forget it.
[02:24] <sung> and make-kpkg doesn't work right on it
[02:25] <basotl> Kalamansi - I use Quanta and Gimpshop for web development... though Quanta isn't as advanced for graphical web development.
[02:25] <Kalamansi> cleaton: i see..you know some room channel where lots of programmers (windows) who use photoshopcs3 / dreamweavercs3 and MS visual basic IIS? thanks
[02:25] <PirateHead> Yo - can anybody help me with sound card troubleshooting? My sound stopped working when I did a fresh install of Gutsy, whereas it worked under Feisty.
[02:25] <PirateHead> Kalamansi: for Windows discussion, you can try #windows
[02:25] <basotl> But Quanta is still one of my favorite web development programs.
[02:25] <Kalamansi> basotl: yes i saw quanta and gimp..lack of features man not like cs3 products =(
[02:25] <cleaton> Kalamansi, eclipse has  a channel here #eclipse
[02:26] <EdgEy> Kalamansi, you cant have photoshop on linux, it does not exist
[02:26] <Crav> in the compiz settings manager, what's the name of the action for zooming out and viewing your desktops that you can rotate with your mouse?
[02:26] <strangeintp> well I guess I'll just ask:  I'm trying to install the java 3d api...  all I got from the sun site was a .bin; I tried running it but terminal told me it couldn't be found
[02:26] <ponymask> if anyone would like to help me with g++ please message me
[02:26] <LjL> Kalamansi: why Ubuntu 7.04 anyway? the current version is 7.10, and if you want to use something older but supported for longer, 6.06
[02:26] <strangeintp> what am I supposed to do with the bin?
[02:26] <EdgEy> nothing will have the same features otherwise why would anyone ever use PS
[02:27] <Kalamansi> Kalamansi: i have 7.04 only. i downloaded for 3 days and a half (1.6 mbps) here =(
[02:27] <NSM> Looks to me like Kalamansi is looking for bootleg.  Wants an awful lot for free but JMHO though.
[02:27] <EdgEy> yeah lol
[02:27] <ponymask> 5.04!
[02:27] <basotl> Kalamansi - http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[02:27] <LjL> !pm | ponymask
[02:27] <ubotu> ponymask: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[02:27] <EdgEy> 3 days at 1.6mbps ? what
[02:27] <cleaton> !compiz | Crav
[02:27] <ubotu> Crav: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:28] <piolong>  !cn | piolong what's mean
[02:28] <ubotu> piolong what's mean: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[02:28] <Kalamansi> LjL: how to get ubuntu 7.10 and 6.06? for free?im using only one pc.i dont have spear pc..
[02:28] <LjL> !shipit > Kalamansi    (Kalamansi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:29] <djroze> hey there...I have an external USB sound card and an internal card on my laptop, and I want to play sound out of the external one if it's available, otherwise from the internal (for all applications)...what kind of configuration should I be making in terms of selecting ALSA/OSS for certain applications, editing an alsa config file, etc...?
[02:29] <ponymask> i installed gnu g++. However it's not showing up in my apps menu. How do i fix that?
[02:30] <PirateHead> Can somebody help me with sound card troubleshooting? My sound stopped working when I did a fresh install of Gutsy, whereas it worked under Feisty.
[02:30] <ponymask> c++*
[02:30] <LjL> ponymask, it will never show in your apps menu, as it's merely a compiler. it's a command you run from a *terminal* to compile a C++ program.
[02:30] <LjL> ponymask: if you're looking for text editors suited for C++ coding, they're available.
[02:30] <NSM> LjL: your too quick
[02:30] <LjL> !code > ponymask    (ponymask, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:30] <pipegeek> ponymask: you may want to install something like eclipse if you need a graphical development environment
[02:30] <djroze> <3 eclipse
[02:30] <pipegeek> hehe
[02:30] <strangeintp> go w/ eclipse]
[02:31] <djroze> how is their C++ these days?
[02:31] <Kalamansi> LjL: thanks..what kind of vmware do i need to use to install ubuntu?since i dont have spear pc..so i could search google while installing ubuntu and apply if i have problem
[02:31] <pipegeek> djroze: actually, I dunno---I tend to just use vi.  But I'm spoiled for java..... takes me 4x as long outside eclipse, because I'm a brat
[02:31] <LjL> Kalamansi: any flavor of VMWare should do. you can also try VirtualBox, which has an open source edition.
[02:31] <djroze> haha oh me too
[02:31] <LadyNikon> welp i fixed my problem
[02:31] <djroze> java is def. my strongest language
[02:32] <djroze> i was just wondering how eclipse works for coding C++
[02:32] <strangeintp> can someone help me with my bin problem?
[02:32] <pipegeek> djroze: my understanding is it's the second-best plugin after java
[02:32] <pipegeek> which sort of makes sence
[02:32] <strangeintp> djroze - I've used eclipse for c++
[02:32] <djroze> pipegeek: i remember using it a while ago and not being super thrilled with it
[02:32] <LadyNikon> looks like i had to open the manager for repositories and I guess that fixed it
[02:32] <pipegeek> strangeintp: did you set your .bin executable?
[02:32] <strangeintp> it's really just an IDE, it can use gcc
[02:32] <djroze> pipegeek: but i barely used it at all, so not much basis for a real opinion
[02:33] <strangeintp> pipegeek:  hm I'm kind of a linux newb - how do I do that?
[02:33] <Kalamansi> LjL: what exact website dude?im not sure about websites who have no virus or something
[02:33] <pipegeek> strangeintp: np ^.^  just do "chmod +x whosywhatsits.bin"
[02:33] <pipegeek> sans quotes
[02:34] <strangeintp> thx, I'll try it
[02:34] <pipegeek> strangeintp: in windows, you mark something executable by giving it the right filename extension---in unix, it's a permissions thing
[02:34] <Kalamansi> LjL: VirtualBox where to get this dude?thanks
[02:34] <LjL> Kalamansi: http://www.vmware.com/ http://www.virtualbox.org/
[02:34] <pipegeek> strangeintp: the reason is that, that way, you have to explicitly allow anything you download to be run---no such thing as a trojan.jpg.scr
[02:34] <strangeintp> pipegeek:  gotcha...  I tried messing with permissions once before and broke my head, or something
[02:34] <Kalamansi> LjL : do i need to download vmware player and virtualbox?
[02:34] <strangeintp> that makes a lot of sense
[02:34] <LjL> Kalamansi, one OR the other.
[02:35] <strangeintp> even one better than a firewall
[02:35] <PirateHead> Can somebody help me with sound card troubleshooting? My sound stopped working when I did a fresh install of Gutsy, whereas it worked under Feisty.
[02:35] <pipegeek> strangeintp: and you can do it from gnome, by right-clicking, going to properties, and going to "Permissions"
[02:35] <Kalamansi> LjL: i can use ubuntu also as server using vmware?i can control also my workstations?
[02:35] <strangeintp> PirateHead:  I had similar issues with my wireless card - had to install a new driver and blacklist the default
[02:35] <LjL> Kalamansi: yes, you can - "control your workstation", no idea what you mean
[02:35] <basotl> I ran a server using VMWARE for a long time.
[02:36] <pipegeek> Kalamansi: vmware player is a virtualization solution from the vmware company; virtualbox is a different, competing open source product based on qemu
[02:36] <pipegeek> both are nice
[02:36] <LjL> pipegeek: i didn't know VirtualBox was based on qemu.
[02:36] <PirateHead> strangeintp: I wouldn't know what new driver to install.
[02:36] <Kalamansi> LjL: like controling all workstations,asign ips,block ports etc?
[02:36] <pipegeek> Kalamansi: if you go with vmware, you'd probably be better off with vmware server, which is also free, and a heck of a lot more configurable
[02:36] <LjL> Kalamansi: i.e. you want to use it as a router?
[02:36] <pipegeek> LjL: hmm, lemme check, I could be wrong
[02:37] <PirateHead> strangeintp: I'm just really disappointed that such a big regression went unnoticed. My bug has sat untriaged in the Launchpad bugtracker for about a month now.
[02:37] <bitwize> does nobody know anything about my tablet problem?
[02:37] <strangeintp> PirateHead:  try going to the vendor first.  I think I got mine from serialmonkey.com
[02:37] <pipegeek> LjL: looks like it's derived from qemu, but with a new kernel module that's open source and with a real gui
[02:37] <LjL> pipegeek: you're right according to Wikipedia... i just had no idea
[02:37] <pipegeek> hehe, we're both looking at the same page :^)
[02:37] <VraiVrai> ubuntu suckers
[02:37] <VraiVrai> buy a real operating system
[02:38] <VraiVrai> biatch
[02:38] <djroze> lol
[02:38] <basotl> ?
[02:38] <UbuntuPwns> hey now
[02:38] <strangeintp> ???
[02:38] <bitwize> wtf?
[02:38] <NotSoGutsy> anybody else having issues with mplayer on Gutsy ?
[02:38] <maxo> yup
[02:38] <pipegeek> bitwize: I'm afraid I don't know much about tablets, since I haven't used them much.... but don't be disheartened.... if nobody answers right away, just restate your question every once in a while (15 minutes sound right, folks?), and eventually the right person should see you ^.^
[02:38] <pipegeek> NotSoGutsy: describe
[02:39] <riotkittie> you can also try posting on the forums, bitwize
[02:39] <basotl> There also appears to be a lot of tablet info on the Ubuntu forums.
[02:39] <NotSoGutsy> well, I can't get any video to run faster than about 4 spf when fullscreen [they run normally when windowed], some decoders [like xv] display the video as pink static
[02:39] <skycloud> could somebody help me install ubuntu ultimate gamers edition? I keep getting errors and the computer is crashing while i'm on the livecd. I went afk just a little while ago though and came back with the cd-drive open but the screen was black.
[02:39] <strangeintp> pipegeek:  I'm surprised I can set the executable permission w/o being su...
[02:39] <LjL> strangeintp: why, if the file is owned by you?
[02:39] <pipegeek> strangeintp: you can change any permissions you have the right to change (ie, on any files you have ownership of)
[02:39] <maxo> I'm looking for a good interface for administering my mysql database on ubuntu. I'm thinking along the lines of something like HeidiSQL, but for linux. any recommendations?
[02:40] <pipegeek> strangeintp: however, you can only *run* it as you.  Meaning, if it is malicious, all it can destroy is your home directory
[02:40] <bitwize> could it be Xgl?
[02:40] <strangeintp> I tried running it as su and got denied
[02:40] <lunin_> damned campus connection, heh.
[02:40] <pipegeek> strangeintp: you're allowed to do anything you want to your own data --- you just can't futz with *other* people's data.  Only root can do that
[02:40] <pipegeek> (and, by extension, sudo)
[02:40] <skycloud> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu could somebody help me?
[02:41] <john83> how to change the theme??
[02:41] <basotl> skycload - Did you check the MD5 checksum of the download or cd?
[02:41] <Ebiggs> How do I get my sound to work?  I've turned everything up in alsamixer but I still don't get an audio.
[02:41] <pipegeek> john83: System menu/Preferences/Appearance
[02:41] <pkh> i'm trying to update a usbserial driver (sierra) but I'm getting build errors in the linux headers themselves...  and I don't want to hack those so something must be very wrong -- is there anyone here who could walk me through the problem, thanks
[02:41] <threeseas> maxo: phpmyadmin
[02:41] <dipu> how do i login to mysql from command prompt??
[02:41] <john83> Ebiggs | are you using laptop??
[02:42] <strangeintp> pipegeek:  gah... still telling me command not found
[02:42] <Ebiggs> Nah, its a desktop with an audigy 4 card.
[02:42] <Kalamansi> LjL: yes i want it as a router...to less the cost also i guess
[02:42] <maxo> threeseas: phpmyadmin is slow, I was looking for a native gui client
[02:42] <LjL> Kalamansi: well, i'm not really sure how well VMWare can cope with that
[02:42] <Kalamansi> LjL: and also block other ports and video streaming and irc
[02:42] <strangeintp> grrrr
[02:42] <john83> thanks pipegeek! but i wanna know how to get and install new themes?
[02:42] <skycloud> basotl, theres no need a friend of mine lent me the disk and he installed ubuntu with it just yesterday
[02:43] <pipegeek> john83: check out www.gnome-look.org
[02:43] <kst> i went back from 8.40 to 8.37 fglrx from repositories, but after a reboot restricted-drivers-manager thingy tells me they are enabled but nto in use... glxinfo and fglrxinfo say mesa aswell
[02:43] <lunin_> I'll try putting this again as I'm not sure if my connection died before or after I tried to send it.  I tried changing the PCM to make the speakers quiet when the headphones are in, but when I changed the PCM in the Realtek one the headphone bars move when the PCM is moved and in the Alsa mixer they move separately but both channels are effected anyway
[02:43] <bitwize> how does one set up an Xgl-less session?
[02:43] <Kalamansi> pipegeek: where to get vmware server dude?im afraid of malwares and viruses..oh not again..we are tired of reformating hds huhuhu
[02:43] <basotl> skycloud - okay that's normally the first thing I check
[02:43] <riotkittie> strangeintp: try "sh yourbinnamehere.bin" ?
[02:43] <NotSoGutsy> is there no way to make mplayer go around the normal display [and therefore Compiz as well] ?
[02:43] <strangeintp> ok, will try
[02:43] <PirateHead> bitwize: you could just uninstall Xgl.
[02:44] <threeseas> maxo: http://www.mysql.com/products/tools/administrator/
[02:44] <PirateHead> bitwize: otherwise you might be able to do it by restarting X and choosing a non-Xgl session from the login screen
[02:44] <dipu> hi .. how do i login to mysql from command prompt??
[02:44] <pipegeek> kalamansi: actually, would you be installing this *on* ubuntu?  Because there's an easy way
[02:44] <basotl> skycload - Did you check for any apparent error messages or the point were it freezes the install.
[02:44] <strangeintp> riotkittie:  thanks, that worked
[02:45] <pipegeek> strangeintp: you still there?  I just sent you a PM
[02:45] <riotkittie> :)
[02:45] <ion> look I'm having a problem to install skype
[02:45] <ion> what I have to to then..
[02:45] <maxo> threeseas: thanks :-) but I tried it, and it wouldn't even let me create a table with VARCHAR, and generally didn't seem great
[02:45] <LjL> Kalamansi: (this is getting very offtopic but is there any reason why you aren't using antivirus software?)
[02:45] <bitwize> okay, thanks.
[02:45] <Scunizi> ion, you might need the "static" version not the deb
[02:45] <basotl> skycload - in addition have you tried the alternate install cd?
[02:45] <ion> I've been looking at ubuntu guide dapper drake
[02:45] <skycloud> basotl, the install doesnt freeze, but the comp crashes or the cd-drive just opens up and the screen is black
[02:46] <bitwize> LjL: he can't afford it?
[02:46] <LjL> bitwize: *cough*
[02:46] <ion> Scunizi: so shall I do then ?
[02:46] <skycloud> basotl, no but i've installed ubuntu before with a livecd just not this version of ubuntu.
[02:46] <johndbritton> i ran badblocks on one of my harddrives and found 109 were bad... how can i fix/ignore them... what should i do?
[02:47] <ion> ?
[02:47] <basotl> skycload - just checking all the normal bases.
[02:47] <skycloud> basotl, on the same comp. I'm reinstalling because my computer wouldn't boot
[02:47] <GRocket> Is it OK to install Kubuntu packages on a Ubuntu system, or will it cause problems? It seems like Kubuntu has more applications than Ubuntu.
[02:47] <pipegeek> Kalamansi: if you're installing on windows, you just go to http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[02:47] <pipegeek> Kalamansi: same thing works in ubuntu.... but you can also install directly through synaptic
[02:47] <skycloud> basotl, it used to have problems like this before though, it would just crash while i was in the middle of something
[02:47] <preaction> GRocket, they're both the same underlying system, so yet
[02:47] <Scunizi> ion. you'll need to read the posts on Skype.com about which version to use with the version of Ubuntu. They should have instructions on how to install.
[02:48] <preaction> GRocket, i mean "yes"
[02:48] <basotl> skycloud - that is odd
[02:48] <GRocket> Thanks!
[02:48] <mEck0_> is there any other docking app like AWN which doesn't require compiz? because awn crashes a lot (maybe because of compiz)
[02:48] <Scunizi> ion, are you using Gutsy? or Feisty?
[02:48] <ion> Scunizi: cool I gonna have a look cheers buddy...
[02:49] <strangeintp> pipegeek:  you can install vmware through synaptic?
[02:49] <ion> Scunizi: you ubuntu's version?
[02:49] <scguy318> mEck0_: kiba-dock mebbe
[02:49] <scguy318> strangeintp: dont think so
[02:49] <ion> Scunizi: you mean ubuntu's version ?
[02:49] <basotl> skycloud - it's obviously not supposed to just crash. Have you seen similar problems from people with similar hardware on the forums?
[02:49] <djroze>  hey there...I have an external USB sound card and an internal card on my laptop, and I want to play sound out of the external one if it's available, otherwise from the internal (for all applications)...what kind of configuration should I be making in terms of selecting ALSA/OSS for certain applications, editing an alsa config file, etc...?
[02:49] <scguy318> strangeintp: mebbe VMware Server
[02:49] <Scunizi> ion, yes.. versions 6.06, 7.04, or 7.10?
[02:49] <pipegeek> strangeintp: canonical has packaged the server.  You need to add http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[02:49] <mEck0_> scguy318, thx, will try it
[02:49] <pipegeek> couple other things in there, too.  Lemme check
[02:49] <skycloud> basotl, no i searched, my comp isnt that new either
[02:50] <skycloud> basotl, so its not to likely i'll find people with the same computer and problem
[02:50] <ion> Scunizi: dapper drake..
[02:50] <strangeintp> well I'll be... you can
[02:51] <ion> Scunizi: perhaps that's the reason why is a bit tough now to put skype...
[02:51] <Scunizi> ion, ok.. Dapper is 6.06 and you'll need the "static" verson NOT static oss or dynamic.
[02:51] <ion> Scunizi: what do you think ?
[02:51] <pipegeek> strangeintp: did you ever get that binary installed?
[02:52] <brandon> my fstab has this  /dev/sda2 /mnt/300 auto noauto,owner 0 0      then i did sudo chmod 777 /mnt/300   i think I really wanted 755, I want normal users to be able to read and write to this firewire external hdd
[02:52] <ion> Scunizi: so I have to change my version that's what you mean ?
[02:52] <lunin_> Anyone know of any other way I could separate the headphone channel from the speaker channel?
[02:52] <Scunizi> ion, yes
[02:52] <Scunizi> ion, version of skype not ubuntu
[02:52] <basotl> skycloud, Well at this point the only thing I can really suggest is trying the alternate install cd. It tends to work when people have hard to diagnose problems with the live installer.
[02:52] <skycloud> basotl, any ideas other then the alternate cd I could try?
[02:52] <ion> Scunizi: cool..
[02:52] <ion> Scunizi: much better...
[02:52] <Scunizi> ion, good luck
[02:52] <skycloud> basotl, alright guess its time to start downloading
[02:53] <pipegeek> brandon: what, exactly, do you want?  755 = owner (you) can read, write, and open; everyone else can just open and read
[02:53] <strangeintp> pipegeek: yep
[02:53] <ion> Scunizi: right...thanks..
[02:53] <maxo> skycloud: are you trying to install ubuntu without the cd?
[02:53] <pipegeek> brandon: 777 everyone can read and write
[02:53] <pipegeek> = no access control at all
[02:53] <skycloud> maxo, no im using a livecd
[02:53] <brandon> brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ gedit /etc/fstab
[02:53] <maxo> skycloud: but it keeps freezing?
[02:53] <brandon> brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 755 /mnt/300
[02:53] <brandon> [sudo] password for brandon:
[02:53] <brandon> brandon@brandon-desktop:~$ mkdir /mnt/300/hello
[02:53] <brandon> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/300/hello': Permission denied
[02:53] <basotl> skycloud - was having troubles with the live cd crashing and the installer dropping.
[02:54] <maxo> skycloud: do you have windows installed and a network cable?
[02:54] <brandon> why can't I mkdir if I have permission
[02:54] <pipegeek> brandon: what filesystem is the device?
[02:54] <pipegeek> brandon: if it's fat or ntfs, then it doesn't have any actual access control in the filesystem, and the permissions for *all* files on the device are set at mount time
[02:54] <yurimxpxman> (compiz-fusion problem) any idea what's going on with this? http://yurimxpxman.dyndns.org/paste
[02:55] <maxo> skycloud: if you do, use http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html , that's how I installed ubuntu because my CD was mucked up
[02:55] <pipegeek> brandon: you'd need to add a few mount options to your fstab; something like dmask=000,fmask=111
[02:55] <brandon> 2 fat32s and one hfs+ all mount with sudo /sda1,2,3 -> DOS,300,journaled  journaled is the hfs+
[02:55] <paulistall> yuri: are you using an ati card
[02:55] <magic_dream> i'm sorry the question but ... my bluetooth services disapear looks i dont have now any service there :x
[02:55] <skycloud> maxo, hmm i don't know the password to the comp with windows, because its not mine =/
[02:56] <pipegeek> brandon: ok.  so, for the fat32 ones at least, /dev/sda2 /mnt/300 vfat noauto,owner,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0
[02:56] <maxo> skycloud: sounds like you shouldn't be installing another OS on it then
[02:56] <skycloud> and there is only 1 currently working monitor in my house
[02:56] <paulistall> yurimxpxman: are you using an ati card?
[02:56] <ion> Scunizi: can I ask you another question...
[02:56] <pipegeek> brandon: think the same probably applies to your hfs one, but I haven't tried using hfsplus under linux recently
[02:56] <yurimxpxman> paulistall: nvidia 7300
[02:56] <skycloud> maxo, no im installing ubuntu on my computer, it had windows but then the harddrive got screwed so i installed linux on it
[02:56] <pipegeek> brandon: it would be nice if linux respected the hfs volume's permissions, but I doubt it
[02:56] <brandon> thanks pipegeek
[02:57] <crdlb> yurimxpxman: desktop icons enabled?
[02:57] <pipegeek> brandon: np
[02:57] <yurimxpxman> crdlb: no. Do they need to be?
[02:57] <nanbudh> Hi guys i am having trouble with gutsy, freeze-ups galore!.could you tell me whats the difference with screen and monitor in the xorg.conf file?
[02:57] <crdlb> yurimxpxman: for some odd reason, in kde they do
[02:57] <paulistall> yurixpxman: wasn't what I thought it was
[02:58] <paulistall> if you are using nvidia
[02:58] <crdlb> that's pretty much the only thing that can cause that exact error
[02:58] <ion> guys sorry to aske a silly question but how can I install a program using command line the program is in my desk area?
[02:58] <skycloud> which is more stable atm gutsy or dapper?
[02:58] <crdlb> if you're already using --replace
[02:58] <john83> anyone knows what is the icon bar on the bottom of screen shots??
[02:58] <yurimxpxman> crdlb: it's still doing it
[02:58] <scguy318> ion: binary or tarball?
[02:59] <crdlb> yurimxpxman: you might need to restart your session or something
[02:59] <Kalamansi> (10:08:37 AM) LjL: Kalamansi: do you specifically need VB? - yes i really need VB....
[02:59] <yurimxpxman> crdlb: ok, brb
[02:59] <ion> scguy318:binary
[02:59] <bruenig> ion, depends on the program. It should come with installation documentation, READMEs and INSTALLs and so forth
[02:59] <scguy318> ion: in that case, just do cd ~/Desktop && ./nameofapp
[02:59] <scguy318> ion: make sure to chmod +x it beforehand if thats not already the case
[03:00] <Gun_Smoke> Anyone used BackTrack lately?  Any clue of what theme is used?
[03:01] <MTecknology> is there such thing as a text version of bum? or something does does the same thing?
[03:02] <darkblueB> fresh gutsy install, seems to be entirely hosed due to a libreadline problem
[03:02] <darkblueB> ugh
[03:02] <brandon> randon@brandon-desktop:~$ mount /dev/sda1
[03:02] <brandon> mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /mnt/DOS
[03:03] <brandon> so I still mount with sudo but then I can read and write and deluge can d/l torrents to it and when I reboot it will automount? awesome
[03:03] <Kalamansi>  strangeintp: re:  vis basic - huh?  people still use that?  hehe -- whats new with VB now?
[03:04] <nanbudh> guys how do i check which SATA drivers are being use on my gutsy box? and how can i replace them if i have to?
[03:04] <Ebiggs> How do I enable my Audigy 4?  I have everything turned up in alsamixer and it is shown as the audio device there.
[03:05] <pkh> anyone around able to help compiling an updated kernel driver ii i'm tearing my heair out!!!
[03:05] <Kalamansi> JMHO? whats that?
[03:06] <coioty> oi,
[03:06] <tritium> nanbudh: you don't
[03:07] <john83> what's the gtk1.x and gtk 2.x ??
[03:07] <hedonplay> #ubuntu-fr
[03:07] <john83> !gtk
[03:07] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:07] <sjovan> mambudh: sda = the first, sdb = the second hd and so on.....
[03:07] <sjovan> nambudh
[03:08] <john83> how can i know what version of gth am i using>>
[03:08] <crdlb> john83: gtk1 is a very old version of gtk
[03:08] <Comrade-Sergei> whats a program for linux that will open .vsd files (ms visio)
[03:08] <john83> gtk
[03:08] <preaction> john83, different programs may use different versions. most programs you use will use GTK2
[03:08] <crdlb> you're using gtk2.x now for everything (almost)
[03:09] <sjovan> Comrade-s: is it a video format? maby VLC?
[03:09] <|neon|> is there a channel for tor
[03:09] <john83> ah~ thanks guys! i just confused which version of theme do i have to download..;;;k
[03:09] <Kalamansi> LjL: i use NOD32
[03:09] <|neon|> Kalamansi: is there a version for linux?
[03:10] <|neon|> i know avast has a antivirus ver for linux but is ssux
[03:10] <RedBand> theme question. Is emerald just a replacement for metacity, which means I still need gtk2 themes for a 'full' theme?
[03:11] <bruenig> |neon|, I know, mine never catches anything? gees
[03:11] <|neon|> bruenig: :)
[03:12] <Ebiggs> Does anyone know what I need to do to get my audio functioning?
[03:12] <bruenig> RedBand, emerald is a window manager right, so you need a gtk theme going too
[03:12] <RedBand> okay, thanks
[03:12] <indian> I am trying to install Ubuntu Gutsy on a USB drive and trying to make it persitant. I am using this tutorial but the changes do not save.       http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[03:13] <indian> someone please help me
[03:13] <bruenig> !please
[03:13] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[03:13] <Comrade-Sergei> whats a program for linux that will open .vsd files (ms visio)
[03:13] <|neon|> i know they say not to worry about viruses on linux but that i think is far fetch from the true , linux is not invurnable from viruses they are not as wide spread as microcrap
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> !virus | |neon|
[03:14] <ubotu> |neon|: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:14] <sjovan> Ebiggs: maby you should search on the forum with the name of your sound device? or maby tell us an error=
[03:14] <manuel_> buenas
[03:14] <sjovan> ?*
[03:14] <mistone> |neon|: your write, but no one would be retarded enough to write a virus for linux, no one uses it
[03:14] <mistone> same reason with mac
[03:14] <mistone> er right lol
[03:14] <|neon|> the bot can say what he/she pleases 's not entirely true
[03:14] <Ebiggs> sjovan: I'm not getting any errors.  Just no audio.
[03:14] <bruenig> mistone, it is the way it is designed that makes it resistant to viruses
[03:14] <|neon|> mistone: true :)
[03:15] <sjovan> Ebiggs: so what is the name of your card then?
[03:15] <mistone> its not resistant ,  its written decently unlike windows
[03:15] <Ebiggs> Its an Audigy 4.
[03:15] <bruenig> the article gives you solid reasons based on design theory that tells you why
[03:15] <|neon|> i have read it
[03:15] <Ebiggs> Alsamixer even shows that it is selected.
[03:15] <crackintosh> so my gutsy installation is stuck on imapd.pem
[03:16] <mistone> |neon|: on the desktop its not that big of an issue, but I run a server and I get pounded by poeple trying to DOS me and get into my server
[03:16] <|neon|> i'm happy with ubuntu, and running a dual opteron with clarckconnect as my gateway/firewall still learning but that's 1/2 the fun
[03:16] <indian> does anyone have a tutorial for persistant installation of gutsy that is persistant on a USB
[03:16] <Curs0r> is there an x11-xcb-dev package?
[03:16] <mistone> |neon|:  you won't get any viruses on ubuntu I will bet you 100 bucks
[03:16] <tritium> Curs0r: apt-cache search for it
[03:16] <|neon|> mistone: and yes i get all kinds of s#$t from all kinds of attacks
[03:17] <bruenig> indian, wait so do you want it persistent or not?
[03:17] <bruenig> attacks and viruses are different
[03:17] <mistone> not really, the attacks are from zombie servers
[03:17] <sjovan> Ebiggs: maby this can help you out ---> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=749882
[03:18] <mistone> all the IP's that were hitting my IP adress traced back to unsecured dedicated servers
[03:18] <indian> bruneiq: yes i want it to be persistant
[03:18] <|neon|> in any event i feel a lot better now than when i used ms, my cc box catches a lot of the junk and ubuntu definetly does its job
[03:18] <mistone> |neon|: yea if your runing a server its a whole different game
[03:19] <scguy318> !ftp
[03:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:20] <strangeintp> can someone tell me how to register my nick?
[03:20] <mistone> |neon|: the point is if someone wanted to make a virus for linux they totally could, its just way easier to do it for windows , and way more effective because poeple atcaully use it
[03:21] <NotSoGutsy> I've been told I'm running out of video memory, how can I check how much Gutsy thinks I have ?
[03:21] <strangeintp> gawd...  are we *really* having the win vs. linux argument?
[03:21] <mistone> strangeintp: what?
[03:21] <tritium> strangeintp: no, it's offtopic
[03:22] <crdlb> NotSoGutsy: what video card?
[03:22] <mistone> he was asking how to stop viruses :O
[03:22] <strangeintp> hehe ok
[03:22] <indian> so i guess no one knows how to make a persistent installation of ubuntu on a usb drive???
[03:22] <bardyr> mistone, thats easy, do nothing
[03:22] <crackintosh> my gutsy install crashed, now it looks like ill have to reset the machine.
[03:22] <|neon|> strangeintp: not at all i am perfectly happy with linux i am just saying that tho it is not as prevalent it is not impossible
[03:22] <River444> hey all :) new ubuntu user here :D
[03:22] <tritium> welcome, River444
[03:22] <Sitting_Duck> I have a SATA DVD burner that Gutsy can see and read data from, but I can't watch DVDs. I've installed all the necessary codecs and I've tried VLC, mplayer, and Totem... any ideas what I'm missing?
[03:23] <riotkittie> indian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[03:23] <strangeintp> nope not impossible... definitely harder to do though
[03:23] <|neon|> strangeintp: indeed
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> whats a program for linux that will open .vsd files (ms visio)
[03:23] <River444> thanks it took me forever to get this program converted and installed but it worked...but I have some questions about graphics drivers...
[03:23] <strangeintp> I could still install an unverified package that could malign my machine
[03:23] <indian> Riotkittie:
[03:24] <indian> I already tried that one, it doesnt work
[03:24] <NotSoGutsy> crdlb :: I have a PNY 6600GT running the nvidia-glx-new drivers
[03:24] <crdlb> NotSoGutsy: what does:    xvinfo|grep Xgl     say?
[03:24] <strangeintp> guys, I'm trying to join the ##java group, but I need to be identified... can someone tell me how to do that?
[03:24] <crdlb> in a terminal
[03:24] <indian> Riotkittie: it doesnt do what I need it to. I need to run everything from a usb drive
[03:24] <preaction> !register | strangeintp
[03:24] <ubotu> strangeintp: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:24] <NotSoGutsy> crdlb :: nothing at all
[03:25] <River444> Hey could someone help me out with a pm...of how to and what to get for the 3d gui...
[03:25] <Kim^J> What's the idea of having a configuring tool when you can't change anything? CCSM must be the worst configure editor I ever came across. I want to change so that Window Resize is on <Alt>Button3 instead of <Alt>Button2, which is impossible. I figured out that there must be some other key bind to that, well, there is, but that can't be changed without creating a havoc of other problems. So, should I file my HUGE bugreport and wine about ho
[03:25] <sjovan> Ebiggs: or maby this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-465955.html
[03:25] <crdlb> NotSoGutsy: I don't know what the problem is then :/
[03:25] <secion8> any info on why gutsy boots real slow on a gateway laptop? It takes like 5 minutes.
[03:25] <riotkittie> indian: try checking the tips/tutorial section in the forum. i know i saw a HOWTO on that recently but i cant remember where exactly. i think it was the forums.
[03:25] <secion8> This is a new install. Gateway mx7118
[03:26] <NotSoGutsy> crdlb :: perhaps you can diangose something different then, periodically, I can't display *any* maximized window, they all show as black
[03:26] <crdlb> that's the nvidia black window bug
[03:26] <navets_> can somebody please help me get my sound working
[03:26] <navets_>  it was working before but very poorly
[03:26] <Kim^J> secion8: Have you checked the messages? Try googlin on howto remove the splash (One word removed from a line in grub.conf...)
[03:26] <crdlb> which indeed happens if you run out of video memory
[03:26] <navets_>  i tried to install new alsa drivers
[03:26] <navets_> now i dont even get a mixer or any sound at all
[03:27] <Sitting_Duck> I have a SATA DVD burner that Gutsy can see and read data from, but I can't watch DVDs. I've installed all the necessary codecs and I've tried VLC, mplayer, and Totem... any ideas what I'm missing?
[03:27] <NotSoGutsy> crdlb :: I've also been having some problems with video playback on Gutsy [problems with mplayer interacting with Compiz, I believe], but I think I solved those
[03:27] <locke_> oh yeah my sound stopped working upon upgrade to 7.10 also
[03:27] <Kim^J> Sitting_Duck: What does the programs say?
[03:27] <locke_> i have sound in xmms, and in mplayer including firefox plugin, but youtube videos have no sound
[03:27] <bardyr> Sitting_Duck, hey, install ubuntu-restricted-extras and run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"
[03:27] <Sitting_Duck> kim^J: Depends on the program. VLC dies silently. MPlayer says "Error FATAL: Could not initialize video filters..."
[03:28] <Kim^J> Ubuntu, userfriendly, PAH!
[03:28] <locke_> i do have 2 sound cards installed, an onboard and a sblive 5.1, and the onboard doesnt work (and is disabled in BIOS) but still shows up in alsa, and i believe might be the default as well
[03:28] <Sitting_Duck> bardyr: I've already installed URE -- I'll try the other command. What's it do?
[03:28] <kst> can someone please send me his ati fglrx uninstall script from /usr/share/ati (fglrx-uninstall.sh)? or pastebin the content so i can create that file myself? somehow I dont have it..
[03:28] <NotSoGutsy> locke_ :: have you tried `asoundconf' ?
[03:28] <bardyr> Sitting_Duck, enabled DVD encryption decryption, but its not legal in the states
[03:29] <locke_> NotSoGutsy, no
[03:29] <locke_> NotSoGutsy, hadnt heard about it, but i think i might have done something like that when i upgraded to feisty cause i had the same problem, just it was worse then
[03:29] <locke_> no programs played unless i specified the card in xmms
[03:29] <negrox_> holas
[03:29] <john83> what kind of cd burning program you guys are using??
[03:30] <preaction> !burn | john83
[03:30] <ubotu> john83: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:30] <locke_> how can i use asoundconf to make Live the default
[03:30] <john83> gnomebaker is the best??
[03:30] <indian> !cd
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <john83> i just wander..;;
[03:30] <locke_> when i ran asoundconf list i got V8237 (the onboard) and Live (the sblive)
[03:30] <navets_> when you upgrade from fiesty to gutsy you upgrade your kernel
[03:30] <preaction> john83, i prefer K3B mysql
[03:30] <bardyr> Sitting_Duck, did it work?
[03:30] <navets_> is there a way to reupgrade your kernel
[03:30] <indian> !burning
[03:30] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:31] <john83> bun im using gnome;;
[03:31] <Sitting_Duck> bardyr: Ah, gotcha. I'm installing a couple of other things it said I needed to install first. I'll let you know in a sec
[03:31] <jimmy-nokernel> my sound went all 'scratchy', any ideas?
[03:31] <preaction> john83, that doesn't mean you can't use K3B
[03:31] <bardyr> Sitting_Duck, kk :)
[03:31] <john83> ah really??
[03:31] <preaction> john83, it just means you'll be downloading parts of KDE, and those parts will be loaded into memory while you're using KDE software. it means some more load time, that's about it.
[03:32] <|neon|> !acetoneiso
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetoneiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <NotSoGutsy> locke_ :: try using `asoundconf set-default-card <card-name>' and then restarting alsa, see if that works
[03:32] <locke_> thanks lets see
[03:32] <john83> ah i didnt know that! thanks!!
[03:32] <locke_> how do i restart alsa
[03:33] <NotSoGutsy> locke_ :: `sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart' works for me
[03:33] <Comrade-Sergei> whats a program for linux that will open .vsd files (ms visio)
[03:33] <locke_> k worked
[03:33] <locke_> lets see about sound now
[03:33] <locke_> nope no sound still
[03:34] <locke_> however
[03:34] <RandomUsr> does anyone know how to make LEAP work in Network Manager/
[03:34] <eva_> is there any way i can mv multiple files with the same extension in multiple folders with one command.  I know if i do "mv *txt /somewhere" it moves all files within that directory to /somewhere.  Can i also use this command to work recursively?
[03:34] <locke_> in sound preferences, with sound playback set as ALSA i now get output
[03:34] <locke_> so that part worked
[03:34] <locke_> wonder whats up with youtube though
[03:34] <Ebiggs> Well, somehow my audio is working after a reboot without installing anything.
[03:34] <PiousMinion> Can I choose not to install Xorg at all with the alternate CD ?
[03:34] <locke_> i couldnt have to restart firefox could i?
[03:34] <jimmy-nokernel> eva: see -R switch
[03:34] <secion9> How do I load an kernel module? The x.org logs are complaining about the kernel module differing from the driver being used so my graphics are falling baclk to mesa.
[03:34] <locke_> it operates independently doesnt it
[03:34] <Sitting_Duck> bardyr: I'm getting an error running that command; it says "Checking for C compiler default output...configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables."
[03:35] <NotSoGutsy> locke_ :: yes, any program that uses alsa should be restarted
[03:35] <qcode> PiousMinion: It'll stop working if you restart your computer again.
[03:35] <preaction> eva_, no. you can use "find" though
[03:35] <secion9> or some steps for a noob to troubleshoot.
[03:35] <locke_> k lets try
[03:35] <scguy318> Sitting_Duck: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:35] <tritium> Sitting_Duck: you need to install build-essential
[03:35] <Sitting_Duck> Thanks!
[03:35] <PiousMinion> qcode: what will stop working?
[03:35] <locke_> nope still no youtube sound
[03:36] <gluttoy> grub failed to recognize my windows drive when i installed ubuntu
[03:36] <eva_> ok thanks
[03:36] <locke_> oh crap! i got it
[03:36] <lucashungaro> How can I configure Nautilus to show the .<something> directories inside my home directory?
[03:36] <gireesh> gluttoy: what was the exact error?
[03:36]  * NotSoGutsy notices locke_ had firefox muted :P
[03:36] <riotkittie> locke_: ctrl + h
[03:36] <UbuntuPwns> lucashungaro, cntrl+h
[03:36] <locke_> i changed my sound preferences from "ADC Multichannel playback" setting on 'movies and music' (which was producing sound anwyays) to ALSA and it started working
[03:37] <riotkittie> errrrr..
[03:37] <locke_> nah i never have it muted hehe
[03:37] <gluttoy> gireesh, no error, just no windows option in grub
[03:37] <locke_> i'm a pretty experienced tech, i would never make that mistake
[03:37] <lucashungaro> UbuntuPwns: oh, thanks
[03:37] <riotkittie> lucashungaro: ctrl + h
[03:37] <riotkittie> i fail at tab completion. :<
[03:37] <lucashungaro> UbuntuPwns: is this "permanent" ?
[03:37] <skycloud> can somebody tell me how i can fix this problem? whenever i boot linux the cpu fan stops, currently i'm trying to install and it keep crashing because it overheats.
[03:37] <locke_> '
[03:37] <locke_> 'its hard to overstate my satisfaction..'
[03:37] <gireesh> gluttoy: is it a graphical grub prompt?
[03:37] <eva_> preaction:  how would find accomplish this task.  Right now I am looking at the man page for find
[03:38] <locke_> 'for the good of all of us, except the ones that are dead'
[03:38] <locke_> hah
[03:38] <UbuntuPwns> lucashungaro, it should be. for that user anyway
[03:38] <preaction> eva_, you'd need --name and --exec. the --exec predicate will end up being rather ugly
[03:38] <locke_> wow, my master volume doesnt control anything now
[03:38] <secion9> http://pastebin.ca/758353
[03:38] <lucashungaro> UbuntuPwns: ok, thank you very much
[03:38] <UbuntuPwns> np
[03:38] <Ebiggs> skycloud: can you control the fan in the BIOS?
[03:38] <Rich4> ‫‎Is this the right channel for help with the boot/splash screen?
[03:39] <locke_> well, if i open the volume control the master works, but if i click on it and scroll the master volume without opening it it doesnt work
[03:39] <secion9> my x log http://pastebin.ca/758353
[03:39] <skycloud> Ebiggs, no i don't think i can. i read on the forum i have to add something to boot/grub/menu.lst something like acpi
[03:39] <eva_> preaction: oh i see.  Ok I will work it out.  Thanks for the help.
[03:39] <preaction> eva_, something like find . -name *.txt -exec'mv {} somewhere' # {} is replaced with the name of the file
[03:39] <Sitting_Duck> bardyr:  (And anyone else) IT WORKED. Thanks so much! I was banging my head against the wall. None of the tutorials mentioned that one!
[03:39] <skycloud> Ebiggs,  im using a emachine t2042
[03:39] <jimmy-nokernel> eva: it may be easier to use the cp command first then mv after
[03:39] <skycloud> Ebiggs, im on the verge of crashing i think
[03:40] <NotSoGutsy> how can I check how much video memory my computer thinks I have ?
[03:40] <gluttoy> gireesh, if by graphical prompt you mean the list grey text list at boot, then yes
[03:40] <Sitting_Duck> <-- Another satisfied ubuntu IRCer
[03:40] <sfdawdf> how many CPUs can one instance of Ubuntu handle.... for a server
[03:40] <Ebiggs> skycloud: Sorry, thats over my head.
[03:40] <gireesh> gluttoy: hit e to change a particular line. you need these entries to boot windows
[03:41] <skycloud> can sombody tell me how to make a boot option acpi=opff
[03:41] <gireesh> gluttoy: (hdx,y)
[03:41] <skycloud> acpi=off*
[03:41] <gireesh> gluttoy: chainloader +1
[03:41] <gireesh> you need to find out values of x and y
[03:41] <Guerra> okay
[03:41] <eva_> jimmy-nokernel: so cp allows you the user to copy all files *txt in multiple directories into one directory.  Or am I just coping all those files just in case I mess up?
[03:41] <Ebiggs> skycloud: In the grub menu, can you hit e and add that line before you boot?
[03:41] <secion9> why does mesa keep loading? http://pastebin.ca/758353
[03:42] <Guerra> how do I change my display resolution in console?
[03:42] <gluttoy> gireesh, x being the drive number and y being the partition? which line do i add the commands?
[03:42] <Guerra> I can't get into GUI because I haven't set a default resolution
[03:42] <skycloud> Ebiggs, im booting from the livecd
[03:42] <Guerra> anyone?
[03:42] <preaction> eva_, cp -R *.txt will not do what you expect, since the * is expanded by bash and not by cp.
[03:42] <gireesh> gluttoy: yes. you need those two in two separate lines
[03:42] <locke_> what is ctrl+h in relation to?
[03:42] <gireesh> hit e at each line for the ubuntu loader
[03:42] <Guerra> Anyone? How can I change the resolution?
[03:43] <Ebiggs> skycloud: Oh, in that case can you hit F6 (other options) at the livecd menu and add it?
[03:43] <gireesh> delete everything and type the command
[03:43] <UbuntuPwns> locke_, shows hidden folders/files
[03:43] <gireesh> dont worry this is only temporary
[03:43] <malduin> Guerra, one sec
[03:43] <Guerra> Thanks malduin
[03:43] <eva_> preaction: i see.  I will work on the commands you suggested then.  I am confident I can get that to work
[03:43] <locke_> oh, in nautilus?
[03:43] <skycloud> Ebiggs, oh ok cool thanks
[03:43] <skycloud> Ebiggs, i'm going to try that
[03:43] <UbuntuPwns> locke_, various programs
[03:43] <jimmy-nokernel> preaction is right
[03:43] <locke_> hidden folders and files dont ever impede me
[03:44] <Ebiggs> skycloud: No guarantees, but its worth a shot.  I'm learning things as I go around here.
[03:44] <riotkittie> locke_: yea, i meant to direct that to someone else but i  didnt verify i had the right nick with tab completion :o
[03:44] <malduin> Guerra, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to rebuild your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from cli console.
[03:44] <locke_> haha happens
[03:44] <locke_> happens to me all the time
[03:44] <skycloud> Ebiggs, alright be back soon hopefully
[03:44] <locke_> tab completion should have been in windows 95 if they were on the ball
[03:44]  * riotkittie suffers from prematuretabulation :(
[03:44] <NotSoGutsy> how can I check how much video memory Gutsy thinks I have ?
[03:44] <locke_> NotSoGutsy, only thing i know of it is to see what X thinks in xorg.conf
[03:44] <Guerra> how do I run it malduin?
[03:45] <malduin> from a root prompt
[03:45] <locke_> otherwise
[03:45] <Nighthawk420> anyone wana help me install the 3d windows and screensaver plugins?
[03:45] <locke_> probably hardware info in prefs
[03:45] <secion9> how do I change the kernel module loaded for ati 8.42 driver
[03:45] <PiousMinion> Can ubuntu be installed without X ?
[03:45] <NotSoGutsy> locke_ :: I don't see any details on actual size though
[03:45] <locke_> meh nevermind
[03:45] <locke_> it dosent have the info
[03:46] <locke_> i just checked mine
[03:46] <secion9> PiousMinion: I believe you want the server version
[03:46] <Bax> what the package name for the c compiler in the synaptic manager?
[03:46] <Guerra> Look, I'm a complete linux noob and don't know even the most simplest commands in the prompt.
[03:46] <PiousMinion> secion9:  not the alternate?
[03:46] <rockets> How can I take a file, and copy it to a directory, and ALL its subdirectories
[03:46] <NotSoGutsy> Bax :: try `build-essential'
[03:46] <krammer> hi
[03:47] <scguy318> Guerra: whats your question
[03:47] <gluttoy> gireesh, on the root line?
[03:47] <jrib> rockets: you want to take a single file and copy it to multiple places?
[03:47] <secion9> PiousMinion: Not sure about alternate. I just know the server runs from CLI
[03:47] <locke_> Guerra, well its a good thing you're not in #slackware then
[03:47] <rockets> jrib, i want to copy it to /foo, and every single subdirectory within /foo, and i need to do it from the command line
[03:47] <scguy318> Guerra: basically just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:47] <jrib> rockets: why?
[03:47] <riotkittie> err. stupid question time. if cat /proc/cpuinfo reports that i have 2 cpus, is it safe to assume that i uhm, have 2 cpus? <hides>
[03:47] <rockets> jrib, i need 402 index.htmls to do some apache benchmarking
[03:48] <Guerra> I need to change the resolution to 1024x768
[03:48] <Guerra> simple as that.
[03:48] <Guerra> in the prompt.
[03:48] <PiousMinion> secion9:  Well, I know the alternate is CLI, but just wanted to make sure not installing X, among other things, was an option.
[03:48] <jrib> rockets: use find with -exec
[03:48] <locke_> riotkittie, do you actually have 2 cpus?
[03:48] <locke_> heh
[03:48] <Bax> NotSoGutsy: I have the build-essential package, but I still keep getting the error "checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs."
[03:49] <Ebiggs> riotkittie: It would appear to show 2 CPUs if you have a dual-core or probably a hyperthreaded Pentium 4.
[03:49] <scguy318> Guerra: whats your monitor? pastebin the contents of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I'll edit it for you
[03:49] <riotkittie> locke_: no
[03:49] <troseph> Anyone know how to run assult cube in windowed mode? I have twinview, and it really borks the game.
[03:49] <riotkittie> Ebiggs: ahh. :> thanks.
[03:49] <scguy318> Guerra: do gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin contents
[03:49] <scguy318> !pastebin | Guerra
[03:49] <ubotu> Guerra: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <gireesh> gluttoy: yes
[03:49] <malduin> Guerra, right, that can be done by manually hacking the X config file xorg.conf or by running the string we pasted which will give you a gui to rebuild the file for you with resolution info.
[03:49] <locke_> riotkittie, dual core or something?
[03:49] <navets> is there a way to reupgade to gutsy
[03:50] <gireesh> remove everything on the root line and enter (hdx,y)
[03:50] <Nalidixic> anyone got time to look at a source file for a gnome app tutorial i'm working on. i got the code copied perfectly but its not compiling. here is the source http://rafb.net/p/n1v9pV19.html The problem seems to be in my function at the bottom. the compiler complains http://rafb.net/p/T8F98035.html thanks for any help you can give
[03:50] <gireesh> rather root (hdx,y)
[03:50] <Ebiggs> navets: what's the problem?
[03:50] <locke_> that whole dual core thing strikes me as a marketing ploy..
[03:50] <riotkittie> hyperthreaded P4.
[03:50] <gluttoy> gireesh, i did then booted and it said the partition could not be mounted
[03:50] <secion9> Guerra: Guerra: run "xf86config" , I think
[03:50] <troseph> lol @ locke_
[03:50] <navets> Ebiggs: no sound, i tried to reinstall alsa drivers to fix the sound, no i have no sound at all and no mixer
[03:50] <gireesh> gluttoy: did you also have chainloader +1 in the next line?
[03:50] <Ebiggs> what about dual-cores being a marketing ploy?  Core 2 duos own. =P
[03:50] <krammer> NALIDIXIC which compiler are you using?
[03:50] <scguy318> secion9: Ubuntu doesn't come with XFree86 if I'm not mistaken
[03:50] <Guerra> Let's see if this works. I did something else.
[03:50]  * |_ocke registered this nick and cant identify cause apparently i didnt set my normal passwords
[03:50] <troseph> My X2 OWNS
[03:51] <gireesh> there should be only two lines
[03:51] <gluttoy> gireesh, the kernel line?
[03:51] <navets> Ebiggs: i have tried a lot to fix it, and i am pretty sure its a problem with my kernel
[03:51] <|_ocke> Ebiggs, well i dont have one so its a marketing ploy
[03:51] <gireesh> root (hdx,y)
[03:51] <Guerra> Works.
[03:51] <gireesh> chainloader +1
[03:51] <Nalidixic> krammer: what ever the premade makefile from glade uses. i built the gui in glade and just coded the back end in
[03:51] <secion9> Ok, nevermind.
[03:51] <|_ocke> scguy318, ubuntu uses Xorg
[03:51] <secion9> Sorry
[03:51] <krammer> did u rebulild for source?
[03:51] <Ebiggs> navets: Oh, not really familiar with fixing any of that.  Just got my own audio working after fiddling with alsamixer (which I don't think contributed) and a reboot.
[03:51] <Guerra> scguy318, Thanks. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did the trick
[03:52] <malduin> cool
[03:52] <Nalidixic> krammer you mean glade?
[03:52] <bastid_raZor> if i left click on network manager in the toolbar shouldn't i get the option to select wirless if i have a wireless card or usb device attached?
[03:52] <krammer> yes
[03:52] <gluttoy> gireesh, so in the root line, type 'root (hdx,y) chainloader +1'?
[03:52] <Nalidixic> no. i just used apt-get
[03:52] <Guerra> Sweet. I now have my computer triple booting! XP for DX9 games, Vista for DX10 games, and Ubuntu for real stuff.
[03:52] <Guerra> muahahahaha
[03:53] <navets> does anyone know if there is a way to redo the gutsy upgrade
[03:53] <secion9> Guerra: Try reading through this post. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[03:53] <secion9> oh too sdlow
[03:53] <Guerra> secion9, everything is fine now.
[03:53] <Guerra> Thanks.
[03:53] <secion9> slow
[03:54] <Ebiggs> navets: have you rebooted?
[03:54] <secion9> ok good
[03:54] <navets> Ebiggs: i have not formated, i have restarted. I dont want to format
[03:54] <skycloud> Ebiggs, hey i
[03:54] <NotSoGutsy> as far as I can see, everything shows as having the right amount of video memory, why do I keep running out ?
[03:55] <jrib> Nalidixic: check your #define line... sure you need that ';'?
[03:55] <skycloud> Ebiggs, i'm back, you fixed my problem. thanks so much now I just have to install and I wont have to deal with crashes anymore hopefully!
[03:55] <Ebiggs> skycloud: Glad I could help! =D
[03:55] <Nalidixic> jrib: your right. thanks alot for the help :P
[03:56] <Pancakes> Could someone help me install XChat? I've never installed anything while in Ubuntu before
[03:56] <DisabledDuck> i'm running Ubuntu 64-bit and for some reason i can't get my java apps to work anymore
[03:56] <Ebiggs> skycloud: You may have to add that line to grub later, I don't know if it will automatically do that once it installs.
[03:56] <rockets> jrib, what about "find /home/users -name '*'
[03:56] <gluttoy> ok, i need help with grub because the guy who was helping left. my windows partition does not show up in grub
[03:57] <skycloud> Ebiggs, yeah i know. i just have to do this command once i've installed. sudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:57] <jrib> rockets: that would print out something, maybe an error
[03:57] <rockets> jrib, nope it works
[03:57] <skycloud> Ebiggs, but for now i can install without worrying anymore =)
[03:57] <mohadib_> HEYE
[03:57] <secion9> Pancakes: sudo apt-get install Xchat
[03:57] <scguy318> Guerra: np
[03:57] <Guerra> There is nothing better than when your computer works.
[03:57] <Guerra> Mmm
[03:57] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Open the synaptic package manager located under system>administration
[03:57] <Guerra> triple booting perfect
[03:58] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Or you can do what secion said.
[03:58] <Pancakes> E: Couldn't find package Xchat
[03:58] <Pancakes> It said "E: Couldn't find package Xchat"
[03:58] <Ebiggs> Guerra: Likewise, Guerra.
[03:58] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Try what I said.
[03:58] <DisabledDuck> for some reason everytime i open Azureus it closes about 2 seconds later, does anybody know how to fix this?
[03:58] <jrib> rockets: still, it did print out something :)  To copy FILE to all subdirectories of DIR, idea is (untested): find DIR -type d -exec cp FILE '{}' \;
[03:59] <Ebiggs> DisabledDuck: You said your java wasn't working, right?  Isn't Azureus Java based?
[03:59] <Covachero> en español
[03:59] <jrib> !es | Covachero
[03:59] <ubotu> Covachero: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:59] <Pancakes> Ebiggs, then what?
[03:59] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Click in that right frame, then begin typing Xchat.
[03:59] <DisabledDuck> Ebiggs, well, it opens... which makes me think that it might not be java, so i decided to be more specific, if the answer i gets works, then it's not my java
[04:00] <Covachero> hola buenas noches, solicito ayuda por favor
[04:00] <jrib> Covachero: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <Covachero> como se instala el driver de las placas ati para ubuntu
[04:00] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: When you see it, check the box next to it and then click apply at the top.
[04:00] <Covachero> muchas gracias
[04:00] <Pancakes> Ebiggs, I see "xchat-common"
[04:00] <rockets> jrib, i have an idea, ill give that a shot if it doesnt work
[04:00] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: xchat is right above it.
[04:01] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Unless you don't have all of your sources enabled.
[04:01] <secion9> Anyone got the 8.42 ati driver working on radeon xpress 200
[04:01] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: I would assume that you wouldn't see -common without xchat though...
[04:01] <Pancakes> Ebiggs, I'm only able to check mark it for removal
[04:02] <Guerra> I need a penguin sticker now.
[04:02] <Pancakes> And all I see is "xchat-common"
[04:02] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Well, try going to System>Administration>Software Sources, then.
[04:02] <RandomUsr> Pancakes? do you have the Ubuntu specific X-Chat?
[04:03] <riotkittie> sorta offtopic but relevant > I have a tendency to install distros and replace them willynilly. My two GRUB menus are best described as total nightmares. I can ususally get around this by mounting a partition and just poking around to discover what is what as I rarely feel like booting into them. I have lost a Debian install, which I'm relatively sure I still have. Gutsy's /etc/debian_version says lenny/sid. am i safe to assume a debi
[04:03] <stlxv> guys i have a problem   enter boot   but not install   it says  begain:wait for root file system
[04:03] <Pancakes> I don't know, RandomUsr. Ebiggs, then what?
[04:03] <riotkittie> or my other gutsy. :|
[04:03] <Pancakes> I'm running 7.10
[04:04] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Are the four first boxes checked on the first tab?
[04:04] <Pancakes> Nope
[04:04] <stlxv> who can help me? begain:wait for root file system
[04:04] <Guerra> Hey, what driver should I download for the 32 bit version of ubuntu, I've got a 2900xt
[04:04] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Check 'em!
[04:04] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Then hit close and return to the Synaptic Package Manager.
[04:05] <scguy318> Gueera: ATI?
[04:05] <Guerra> Yeah
[04:05] <usrl> I just installed 7.10, and I can't find the window manager setter upper thing >< And I have some settings I need to change. What is it labeled now?
[04:05] <Guerra> ATI radeon 2900xt
[04:05] <scguy318> Guerra: does the Restricted Driver Manager do it for you?
[04:05] <Guerra> well, I just used that driver
[04:05] <Pancakes> Then what?
[04:05] <Guerra> and now I can't boot into the GUI
[04:05] <scguy318> Guerra: ah
[04:05] <inxane> i wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself...
[04:05] <Ebiggs> usrl: System>Preferences>Appearance - the last tab
[04:06] <DisabledDuck> whats a good torrent client for Ubuntu?
[04:06] <SpeakerMania> How can I get rid of the GRUB timer? You know when it says you have 3 seconds to press ESC or whatever... How do I get rid of that?
[04:06] <scguy318> !torrent | DisabledDuck
[04:06] <darren> how do I access the Nvidia driver gui configuration?
[04:06] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:06] <scguy318> Guerra: being able to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be helpful, can you pastebin that?
[04:06] <scguy318> Guerra: are you using irssi?
[04:06] <Guerra> lemme go to prompt
[04:06] <DisabledDuck> thanks
[04:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, grub | SpeakerMania - check one of these tutorials, they should have the info you want:
[04:06] <ubotu> SpeakerMania - check one of these tutorials, they should have the info you want:: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:06] <Srandom> can anyone suggest a way to recover data from a disk?
[04:06] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Back in Synaptic, click reload and then look for xchat again.
[04:06] <syc_> gtk-gnutella
[04:07] <riotkittie> SpeakerMania: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ; change the timeout.  you will need to do it with sudo or gksudo
[04:07] <Srandom> I accidentally deleted a partition
[04:07] <Guerra> okay, in recovery mode prompt.
[04:07] <Guerra> what do I do?
[04:07] <darren> how do I access the Nvidia driver gui configuration?
[04:07] <SpeakerMania> riotkittie, Thanks very much. Same to MadPilot
[04:07] <abstract> When loading AWN, how do you make the icons bounce around?
[04:07] <Jordan_U> The desktop cube plugin is not working for me, the key combinations simply don't do anything
[04:07] <scguy318> Guerra: if you really really want the GUI access back right this instance
[04:07] <syc_> srandom, try testdisk
[04:07] <scguy318> Guerra: then you can just do (gimme a moment)
[04:08] <Guerra> okie
[04:08] <usrl> I just installed 7.10, and I can't find the window manager setter upper thing >< And I have some settings I need to change. What is the gnome settings thing labeled?
[04:08] <Pancakes> Ok, I see Xchat now
[04:08] <Ebiggs> Alright, check it for installation and hit apply.
[04:08] <jrib> Srandom: mbr backup would be great, but you can try programs like testdisk otherwise
[04:08] <noolness> Jordan_U: make sure you only have columns of desktops and no rows
[04:08] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: If it asks to install other stuff with it click ok/yes
[04:09] <Srandom> jrib: testdisk?
[04:09] <stoop1d> so when I use `lspci -v' I see that my 128MB video card is listed as having 256MB; this might explain why I keep running out of video memory
[04:09] <scguy318> Guerra: hmm, maybe sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-generic?
[04:09] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Its probably using system memory as well
[04:09] <scguy318> !info linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:09] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-generic: Restricted Linux modules for generic kernels. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:09] <SpeakerMania> riotkittie, If I change the timeout to 0 seconds will it automatically hop over that whole thing?
[04:10] <Guerra> I have no idea, scguy318. I'm not a Linux guy.
[04:10] <scguy318> Guerra: that I think should remove the restricted kernel stuff
[04:10] <scguy318> Guerra: yeah do that
[04:10] <Guerra> type what?
[04:10] <spideyman> you guys gotta check this out how do i show you a screen shot
[04:10] <scguy318> Guerra: sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:10] <stoop1d> Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
[04:10] <stoop1d>         Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[04:10] <stoop1d> Memory at e9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
[04:10] <stoop1d> [virtual] Expansion ROM at ea000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
[04:10] <noodles12> is there any linux alternative to MS excel that does trendlines?
[04:10] <stoop1d> doesn't mean much to me, really
[04:10] <spideyman> pushing feisty to the limits
[04:10] <jrib> Srandom: it is packaged in the repos, there is some documentation you should read on the home page as well (google)
[04:10] <Guerra> E: couldn't find package linux-restricted
[04:10] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: what is your video card?
[04:10] <secion9> where do i find the kernel config file?
[04:11] <Guerra> scguy318, no go.
[04:11] <stoop1d> it's a PNY 6600GT, 128MB
[04:11] <SpeakerMania> noodles12: Applications: Office: OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet
[04:11] <Srandom> jrib: k
[04:11] <Pancakes> THanks Ebiggs, I'm running XChat right now
[04:11] <stoop1d> Ebiggs :: it shows correctly in xorg.conf though
[04:11] <darren> how do I access the Nvidia driver gui configuration? Its sudo nvidia-settings!!!!
[04:11] <noodles12> SpeakerMania: that doesn't do the trendlines i need for school. or i can't seem to find it.
[04:11] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Do you know if it has a turbomemory feature or something to grab system memory too?  You can maybe disable that in your BIOS.
[04:11] <scguy318> Guerra: sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:11] <scguy318> Guerra: that whole thing I believe
[04:12] <stoop1d> Ebiggs :: when I looked in the bios, it was listed as 128MB there as well
[04:12] <Ebiggs> Pancakes: Another satisfied customer. =P
[04:12] <skagen> im using an old pc. what do you suggest to use? ubuntu or xubuntu?
[04:12] <Guerra> scguy318, its doing something
[04:12] <Guerra> okay
[04:12] <secion9> Where do I find the kernel config file?
[04:12] <Guerra> lets reboot and see
[04:12] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Maybe have a look at the sudo nvidia-settings command darren just mentioned.
[04:13] <skagen> im using an old pc. what do you suggest to use? ubuntu or xubuntu?
[04:13] <usrl> Can someone please just tell me where the gnome settings stuff is? I've tried google. it doesn't help =/
[04:13] <usrl> skagen: how old?
[04:13] <darren> stoop1d: sudo nvidia-settings
[04:13] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Are you using the restricted driver?
[04:13] <stoop1d> yes
[04:13] <skagen> its a fujitsu fmv 6000CL .. pentium 3 1ghz with 256ram
[04:14] <SpeakerMania> noodles12: Once in OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet, press F1 and type in "trend lines in charts"
[04:14] <Guerra> Would be nice if everything was GUI. I hates the command prompt :(
[04:14] <usrl> skagen: that's about baseline for Ubuntu. It's up to you. Ubuntu will be a little slower, but it should still be usable
[04:14] <Guerra> scguy318, unfortunately, I'm still getting the black screen on boot.
[04:14] <skagen> im currently using ubuntu. but the screen resolution is at 800x600.. cant seem to change it to 1064
[04:14] <c0mp13371331337> Guerra: EMBRACE the command prompt!
[04:14] <Ward1983> how can i use a on screen display to login please?
[04:14] <boontoo> what does this instruction mean
[04:14] <boontoo>    1.  you need the source of your current running kernel.
[04:14] <boontoo>       /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build/include needs to point at it.
[04:14] <usrl> Guerra: I'm pretty sure they've made GUIs for most things, it's just that the command prompt is easier to give support on and is just all around quicker
[04:15] <Guerra> egh.
[04:15] <usrl> Guerra: spend a little time getting to know the command prompt, I didn't like it very much at first either, but I LOVE it now.
[04:15] <skagen> if i use xubuntu its faster?
[04:15] <scguy318> Guerra: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[04:15] <scguy318> Guerra: then, mm
[04:15] <Ebiggs> skagen: I installed Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu on one machine and I really hated the Xfce environment.  Try the liveCDs before you decide to install.  I run Ubuntu on a 1.2Ghz Compaq alright.
[04:15] <usrl> skagen: probably, yes. Xubuntu uses less powerful window manager, so it should run quicker
[04:15] <stoop1d> well Ebiggs/darren, I don't see any options [or details, even] in the nvidia-settings that affect the total memory used, other than the actual mapped memory values
[04:15] <navets> is there a way to downgrade or fix my sound with an intel hda sound card?
[04:16] <scguy318> Guerra: i really would love to see that log to figure out what's the deal
[04:16] <bulmer> boontoo-> what are you compiling?
[04:16] <Guerra> sigh, just when I get one thing working, another thing breaks.
[04:16] <scguy318> Guerra: you can rerun sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa this time around
[04:16] <boontoo> bulmer: CDemu
[04:16] <scguy318> Guerra: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart and good to go
[04:16] <Guerra> ok
[04:16] <skagen> any ideas how i can change it to 1064x764?
[04:17] <skagen> screen is too big.. lol
[04:17] <bulmer> boontoo-> so do you have the kernel source compatible with your current one?
[04:17] <alphonse> sup
[04:17] <k0001> which library provides simple xml serialization for python? (like simplejson, but for xml)
[04:17] <stoop1d> Ebiggs :: I should also note that nvidia-settings shows the correct size for the card
[04:17] <navets> bulmer: is there a way to recomple your kernel?
[04:17] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Do you have a different video card you could throw in to maybe clear those settings and then put the 6600 back?
[04:17] <stoop1d> can I disable using virtual memory for video memory ?
[04:17] <boontoo> bulmer: no idea
[04:17] <stoop1d> Ebiggs :: not really :(
[04:18] <Zombie> Will Ubuntu ever support DKMS?
[04:18] <junkbox> any one know how to verify that ubuntu is using both processors?
[04:18] <SpeakerMania> How can I make Ubuntu boot faster? Watch my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGzDkbOUOyA
[04:18] <Zombie> junkbox: Gkrellm
[04:18] <bulmer> navets yes
[04:18] <caner> i am trying to run vmware-server but it crashes before the gui comes. how can i detect what is happening? (logs or smthng like that??)
[04:18] <noodles12> SpeakerMania: sweet! that's new in 2.3 i think, because i've never seen taht before. awesome. is there a way to show the  (y=mx + b) formula with the linear trendline?
[04:18] <UbuntuPwns> Zombie, are you from wyldryde?
[04:19] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Virtual memory is hard drive space that will get used as the RAM is filled up (exactly like a swap partition), some lower end video cards will tap into the RAM.
[04:19] <Zombie> I've been there before.
[04:19] <Zombie> Yes.
[04:19]  * UbuntuPwns is LinuxFan :D
[04:19] <junkbox> thanks zombie
[04:19] <navets> bulmer: do you know how?
[04:19] <Zombie> Hey!
[04:19] <UbuntuPwns> :D
[04:19] <scguy318> Guerra: success?
[04:19] <Zombie> Whats up?
[04:19] <stoop1d> Ebiggs :: I never had the issue in any of the previous releases though, and I've used the same card since Dapper came out
[04:19] <bulmer> navets yes, there are tutorials you can find via google
[04:19] <SpeakerMania> noodles12: I'm not the guy to be asking about that. Try and see if someone else can help or post on the Ubuntu or the OpenOffice forums. I don't do much work in Spreadsheets.
[04:19] <UbuntuPwns> not too much , just learning more and more from this channel , can never learn enough it seems :)
[04:20] <Jordan_U> On an install which was upgraded from a non LTS to an LTS version, will update manager suggest installation of a non LTS version?
[04:20] <stoop1d> can I tell it somehow to never use any virtual memory for video memory ?
[04:20] <stoop1d> because it seems to be breaking everything
[04:20] <boontoo> bulmer: all i know is i get a lot of erros when i try to make
[04:21] <bulmer> boontoo-> did you follow the README file included on that source package?
[04:21] <Ebiggs> stoop1d: Well, I don't really know what else to suggest.  Perhaps put up a thread on the forum.
[04:21] <boontoo> bulmer: yeh ill pastebin it for you
[04:21] <Guerra> scguy318, back in the GUI
[04:21] <boontoo> !paste
[04:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <Jordan_U> stoop1d, You can't use virtual memory for video memory, what exactly is the symptom you are having / what is not working that you want to fix?
[04:21] <boontoo> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42989/
[04:21] <Ahmuck> hi
[04:21] <Ebiggs> Jordan_U: He is running out of video memory.  Ubuntu sees 256MB of vRAM when his card only has 128MB.
[04:21] <scguy318> Guerra: excellent
[04:22] <Jordan_U> boontoo, What are you trying to compile?
[04:22] <stoop1d> Jordan_U :: well, periodically any maximized windows show as black, I can't play any videos fullscreen, nor any games, compiz runs really slowly, etc
[04:22] <SpeakerMania> How can I make Ubuntu boot faster? Watch my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGzDkbOUOyA
[04:22] <Ahmuck> i've loaded ubuntu server and have dropped to a shell before reboot
[04:22] <boontoo> Jordan_U: "make" without the quotes
[04:22] <scguy318> Ahmuck: Ubuntu Server has no GUI
[04:22] <Ahmuck> i need to replace the stock kernel with either i686 or vm
[04:22] <Ebiggs> Jordan_U: But other applications will show the correct, 128MB
[04:22] <Jordan_U> stoop1d, Nvidia?
[04:22] <stoop1d> yeh
[04:22] <scguy318> Ahmuck: sudo apt-get install linux-image-something
[04:22] <Jacob> Hello. I'm sorry, but I've encountered a rather large problem....Nothing will open when I doube click on it and I don't know why
[04:22] <Guerra> lemme reboot and see if teh changes stick, scguy318.
[04:22] <Ahmuck> obvioulsy the server has no apt-get
[04:22] <stoop1d> Jordan_U :: using the nvidia-glx-new drivers
[04:22] <Ahmuck> so, how do i install a new kernel?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> boontoo, make is a command used to compile applications, what application are you trying to compile
[04:23] <Ahmuck> mount the cdrom?
[04:23] <scguy318> Ahmuck: sudo apt-get install linux-image-...
[04:23] <Jacob> It just barely started, but when I double click on a picture it'll lose it's icon, if I doube click on an mp3 it'll lose it's icon...They both just turn into sheets of paper
[04:23] <scguy318> Ahmuck: apt-cache search linux-image for kernels
[04:23] <boontoo> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42989/
[04:23] <SpeakerMania> !boot
[04:23] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:23] <Ahmuck> scguy318: apt-get is not installed on a server installation
[04:23] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Have you rebooted yet?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> stoop1d, That is a known ( long unfixed ) bug in nvidia's drivers when using compiz
[04:23] <SpeakerMania> How can I make Ubuntu boot faster? Watch my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGzDkbOUOyA
[04:23] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Not yet, since I'm in the middle of working on a document, and I'm afraid that if I reboot I won't be able to get back into Ubuntu or something :\
[04:24] <gluttoy> my windows partition does not show up in grub
[04:24] <Jordan_U> stoop1d, The only fix ( AFIK ) is to switch to copy mode in compiz ( which is slower )
[04:24] <Ahmuck>  /bin/sh sudo not found
[04:24] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Is the mouse USB or PS/2?
[04:24] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Mouse is USB
[04:24] <scguy318> Ahmuck: you are root?
[04:24] <Guerra> Okay, so how should I get the ATI radeon x86 driver (2900xt)
[04:24] <qazwsx> I just got a new font; how do I get gnome-temrinal to use it?
[04:24] <scguy318> Ahmuck: in that case dont need sudo at all
[04:24] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Have you unplugged/replugged it in?
[04:24] <stoop1d> Jordan_U :: I was able to force videos to circumvent Compiz entirely, they play fine for the most part, except mplayer runs out of memory rather shortly
[04:25] <Ahmuck> qazwsx yes
[04:25] <Jacob> Ebiggs: No, I haven't. I'll do that now, but why would that help?
[04:25] <qazwsx> Ahmuck: ?
[04:25] <Guerra> I've heard there is an open source driver for it, and a regular driver. Which should I get?
[04:25] <stoop1d> I get an error like this: `X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'
[04:25] <Ahmuck> scguy318: yes, i know
[04:25] <Ahmuck> qazwsx ?
[04:25] <Jordan_U> boontoo, Do you have the kernel sources installed?
[04:26] <Ahmuck> qazwsx sorry, misread
[04:26] <Ahmuck> scguy318: so, what would u suggest?
[04:26] <Ebiggs> Jacob: I guess just kind of power-cycling the mouse.  It probably needs a reboot.  That doesn't sound like something that would keep you from booting again.
[04:26] <qazwsx> I just got a new font; how do I get gnome-temrinal to use it?
[04:26] <caner> i am trying to run vmware-server but it crashes before the gui comes. how can i detect what is happening? (logs or smthng like that??)
[04:26] <Frogzoo> qazwsx: either sys->prefs->fonts or google '.Xresources'
[04:26] <Ahmuck> qazwsx: is it a ttf font?
[04:27] <qazwsx> it's a ttf font
[04:27] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Did we lose you?
[04:27] <qazwsx> Frogzoo: what prog does sys->pres->fonts run? I'm using a non-standard wm
[04:27] <Ahmuck> qazwsx: follow Frogzoo instructions
[04:27] <Jacob> Ebiggs: I'm not sure if I described the problem. The mouse works fine: It's just that nothing at all will open. When I look at properties, everything has become "type: unknown". I can still open actual programs (through the terminal or the applications menu), but not by double clicking
[04:27] <wolfjb> my synaptics touchpad used to scroll horizontally in fiesty, I haven't changed the config, but it won't scroll horizontally in gutsy. I've tried configuring it with gsynaptics and have the 'Enable Horizontal Scrolling' selection checked, but still no joy. Any pointers on how I can get this nice feature working?
[04:27] <qazwsx> Ahmuck: what prog does sys->pres->fonts run?
[04:27] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Hmm. When I open folders, it tells me that it can't display the contents of anything
[04:28] <Jordan_U> wolfjb, Two fingered scrolling or a scroll area on the side of the touchpad?
[04:28] <JDiver> Anyone have time to help deal with a hibernation / suspend problem?
[04:28] <nj786> wha does "make sure the universal repository is enabled" mean?
[04:28] <Ahmuck> qazwsx: *shrug* i use kubuntu ...
[04:28] <Frogzoo> qazwsx: fonts go in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[04:28] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, scrolling by dragging a single finger on the bottom of the touchpad. dragging vertically on the side of the touch pad works perfectly
[04:28] <qazwsx> Frogzoo: I copied it there, in the FreeFonts directoy in partiuclar, but it's not being updated
[04:28] <boontoo> Jordan_U: sorry crashed, i dont know anything about compiling
[04:29] <swmiller6> qazwsx:  ~/.fonts
[04:29] <qazwsx> Frogzoo: is there some prog I need to run to have X relook at that dir again?
[04:29] <scguy318> Guerra: the open-source radeon/ati/w/e comes with Ubuntu
[04:29] <Ebiggs> Jacob: That's odd.  If you have another system, email that document to yourself and try a reboot.
[04:29] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, I haven't config'd 2 finger scrolling
[04:29] <scguy318> Guerra: to use it you just select it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <Frogzoo> qazwsx: there is, something about cache - 1/2 a sec
[04:29] <scguy318> Guerra: the fglrx restricted you get from REstricted Driver Manager or ATI
[04:29] <Kalumba> Just a quick question: Is the Intel 4965 driver in Ubuntu's repository so it is easy to install?
[04:29] <Guerra> scguy318, what do you recommend?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> boontoo, Why exactly do you want cdemu, did you know that you can mount iso's without any extra software?
[04:30] <scguy318> Guerra: what reason do you have for restricted?
[04:30] <nrp> Kalumba, it works in the default install.  no additional stuff necessary
[04:30] <Jacob> Ebiggs: It isn't rebooting.
[04:30] <boontoo> Jordan_U: yeh unfortunatly i need to mount .mds or mdf files
[04:30] <Guerra> Well, would be nice to play some games on this
[04:30] <swmiller6> qazwsx: add fonts to your user profile by creating a .fonts folder in your home directory then placing fonts you download into there.
[04:30] <Jordan_U> boontoo, You can convert .mdf to .iso
[04:30] <Guerra> DX9 games in wine, some opengl games
[04:30] <Kalumba> nrp, apparently not for me with the live CD of gutsy
[04:30] <qazwsx> Ahmuck: can I access the font prog from the gnome-control-center ?
[04:30] <qazwsx> swmiller6: will try that
[04:30] <boontoo> Jordan_U: how?
[04:30] <boontoo> even when its only about 20 kb?
[04:31] <scguy318> Guerra: mm, if you already have DRI enabled, you dont need restricted
[04:31] <nrp> Kalumba, the final release of Gutsy?
[04:31] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Should I press the power button on my computer? :\ I've heard that it is best to let the OS handle that sort of thing, but Ubuntu is just sitting there
[04:31] <Kalumba> 7.10
[04:31] <Frogzoo> qazwsx: sudo fc-cache
[04:31] <Jordan_U> !info mdf2iso | boontoo
[04:31] <ubotu> boontoo: mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[04:31] <Kalumba> nrp, the driver is not listed in the Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:31] <scguy318> Guerra: but, you'll have to switch back to the original module that you had the first time you ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Did the menu for shut down/restart, etc show up?
[04:31] <qazwsx> swmiller6: addexd i there, it's not showing up
[04:31] <boontoo> cool
[04:31] <boontoo> thanks
[04:31] <Ahmuck> qazwsx: dpm
[04:31] <nrp> Kalumba, well, yes, but are you sure it isnt a Beta or Release Candidate CD?
[04:31] <scguy318> Guerra: there should be backup xorg.conf files in /etc/X11
[04:31] <scguy318> Guerra: pastebin them if you wish
[04:31] <Jacob> Ebiggs: No, it didn't. I click on the icon but nothing happens
[04:31] <swmiller6> qazwsx: resart x
[04:31] <james296> can anyone help me get totem-xine to work properly instead of using totem-gstreamer for playing DVDs? I mean I already got the Medibuntu package and installed libdvdcss plugins but I still cant play DVDs
[04:31] <Jordan_U> boontoo, "mdf2iso /path/to/mdf /path/to/new/iso"
[04:31] <nrp> Kalumba, its not a Restricted Driver.  It's a kernal module
[04:31] <james296> used to work right away on Fiesty
[04:32] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Hit alt+ctrl+del to bring it up
[04:32] <boontoo> Jordan_U: thanks a bunch
[04:32] <Jordan_U> boontoo, np
[04:32] <Nik> i'm trying to install 6.10 edgy but when i boot off the cd and select the install option i end up at a dos-like screenthat says BusyBox v1.1.3 and on next line (initramfs)    anyone have any ideas?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> james296, Why not use gxine or VLC for DVDs?
[04:32] <Kalumba> nrp, a bit odd as the previous one, 3945, showed up as a restricted driver
[04:32] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Alright, it comes up that way. I'm going to try rebooting now...Will I be able to use a Live CD or something to come back in case something bad happens?
[04:32] <Frogzoo> Nik: is edgy necessary?
[04:33] <Ebiggs> Yeah, you should.
[04:33] <james296> cuz I feel like using something that should just work that came with Ubuntu
[04:33] <c0mp13371331337> Nik, had that same problem with a different distro in VMware.  Perplexes me to this day.
[04:33] <Jacob> Alright. Be right back, hopefully
[04:33] <nrp> Kalumba, perhaps that was before Intel went open source.  all of their wifi drivers are open source and included in gutsy
[04:33] <wolfjb> Do I need to have a buttons line my xorg.conf to enable horizontal scrolling? ie Option Buttons 7 ?
[04:34] <Jordan_U> wolfjb, Have you already looked at the synaptics page @ wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[04:34] <Kalumba> nrp, well in that case I need to check the version of gutsy, but I am pretty sure it is 7.10 final
[04:34] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, yes, and I've tried the settings mentioned there (that is how I configured it in fiesty succesfully) I haven't found a gutsy update there yet
[04:35] <Nik> whoops, i meant 7.10.. so, no, not edgy - and no, definitely necessary. i want the latest stable version.
[04:35] <nrp> Kalumba, and it doesn't recognise the card at all?
[04:35] <Nik> it won't let me install because of this initramfs prompt
[04:35] <Kalumba> nrp, hang on
[04:35] <Nik> c0mp, what distro was that?
[04:36] <boontoo> !intel
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Guerra> Okay, and again the driver plunges me into the dark screen.
[04:36] <Guerra> Bleh.
[04:36] <Jordan_U> wolfjb, It works "out of the box" for me, possibly try reconfiguring X to defaults with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" ?
[04:36] <Jacob> Ebiggs: Hello again. Rebooting seems to have solved whatever the issue was, so I guess nothing too bad happened :) Thanks for your help, though :)
[04:36] <james296> for some reason gxine wont play the dvd
[04:36] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, ok, I'll give it a shot. thanks
[04:36] <Ebiggs> Jacob: Always glad to help.  I didn't think it sounded serious.
[04:37] <Guerra> next time, I'm gonna wait a few months to download the new distro
[04:37] <Jordan_U> james296, Will VLC? It sounds like a xine or libdvdcss problem.
[04:37] <Guerra> WHy can't I enable visual effects?
[04:37] <Guerra> weird
[04:37] <james296> I dont want to install VLC I dislike its interface
[04:38] <Kalumba> nrp, ifconfig shows a wlan0. Could that be it?
[04:38] <skagen> how do i access shared documents in a winxp pc?
[04:38] <intelikey> what kind of error message is this    apt-get remove blah
[04:38] <intelikey> Bus error
[04:38] <james296> nvm though, I got it fixed
[04:38] <Ahmuck> is there a way to boot from one ubuntu installation and insert a new kernel in another ubuntu installation on a different drive so that booting the second drive upon reboot would boot the new kernel?
[04:38] <james296> YAY
[04:38] <nrp> Kalumba, yep.  unless you have another wifi card in
[04:39] <intelikey> Ahmuck yes.    chroot   pivot-root   and   the likes.
[04:39] <Kalumba> nrp, excellent! Then all is set and I can safely install Ubuntu on this computer. Thanks
[04:39] <skagen> how do i access shared documents in a winxp pc?
[04:39] <intelikey> apt error  "Bus error"   ???
[04:39] <scguy318>  skagen: in VMware?
[04:39] <mmmiiikkkeee>  powermanager keeps switching from "AC mode" to "battery mode" every 2 seconds... any ideas of what i could search google for to fix this?
[04:40] <Ebiggs> nick Ebiggs (away)
[04:40] <boontoo> Jordan_U: is Fglrx for me? i have a intel 945gm onboard graphics
[04:40] <Ahmuck> intelikey: any chance there is a instrution list on the web?
[04:40] <skagen> im not sure. im new to ubuntu.. do i need to install VMware?
[04:40] <intelikey> come on guys what's this error telling me ?
[04:41] <Jordan_U> boontoo, No, you want the "intel" driver if it is available ( I think :)
[04:41] <Kalumba> nrp, one more question: Is there a more graphic tool to connect to a ISP with PPPoE than pppoeconf ?
[04:41] <Jordan_U> boontoo, fglrx is for ATI cards
[04:41] <intelikey> Ahmuck yes   tldp.org
[04:41] <boontoo> ah
[04:41] <LadyNikon> !changelog
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <lunz> hi guys,anyone realise there is no link for youtube video now?
[04:41] <boontoo> Jordan_U: i would like direct rendering whats the command to get the intel driver? ive done it before but now i forget
[04:42] <Evanlec> skagen, are u trying to access them through your network?
[04:42] <skagen> yes
[04:42] <nrp> Kalumba, sorry, don't know.  I haven't used PPPoE
[04:42] <Evanlec> skagen, you should just be able to go to places > network and browse to your winxp's shared folder
[04:42] <River444> Hey guys, could someone tell me how I install the 3d gui in Ubuntu? Not sure exactly how
[04:42] <intelikey> Ahmuck basicly you mount the fs and chroot into it, then fix things like you would in any normal terminal session.
[04:42] <scguy318> Guerra: at the moment you're running on the vesa module, which means no DRI
[04:42] <Evanlec> River444, are u using gutsy?
[04:42] <Kalumba> nrp, ok, thanks anyway.
[04:43] <Jordan_U> boontoo, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:43] <River444> evanlec, yes I am
[04:43] <boontoo> ty
[04:43] <scguy318> Guerra: i think, if you haven't changed your xorg.conf since the last time you did to get GUI back
[04:43] <skagen> oh cool
[04:43] <navets> how do I run the snddevices script?
[04:43] <Evanlec> River444, have you installed your 3d card drivers?
[04:43] <River444> evanlec, yes
[04:43] <skagen> first time using ubuntu :D
[04:43] <Jordan_U> boontoo, Then after it's installed you need to reconfigure X to use it with: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[04:43] <boontoo> Jordan_U: before the last update i could type glxinfo |grep direct and it says direct rendering is enabled, however now it is not =( is this a driver thing
[04:44] <intelikey> so my apt is totally hosed i guess
[04:44] <Evanlec> River444, 3d desktop is already installed, you can enable it by going to system > preferences > visual effects tab
[04:44] <boontoo> Jordan_U: it says the xorg intel is latest version already
[04:44] <intelikey> tty24 [root@computer.~] apt-get
[04:44] <intelikey> Bus error
[04:44] <intelikey> tty24 [root@computer.~]
[04:44] <Jordan_U> intelikey, Dry reinstalling apt with dpkg
[04:44] <Evanlec> skagen, did that work for you?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> intelikey, But be VERRY careful :)
[04:44] <River444> if its enabled how do I do the cube and stuff?
[04:44] <Tmob> hey guys.. i just installed gutsy and i pressed something and te entire screen is zoomed up!
[04:44] <Tmob> like 2x
[04:44] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | River444
[04:44] <intelikey> Jordan_U you mean dl manually and then install with dpkg ?
[04:44] <ubotu> River444: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:45] <Tmob> how do i get back to normal??
[04:45] <usrl> Is there a 'stupid people's theme' thing for GNOME? Because I want to change it, but I can't seem to see anything that will change EVERYTHING (Panels, colors, backgrounds, login, etc) over ;_;
[04:45] <Evanlec> River444, ^^
[04:45] <Jordan_U> intelikey, Yes
[04:45] <skagen> yes thanks!
[04:45] <Tmob> can someone please help with this? ic an't figure how to get back to non-zoom state of compiz
[04:45] <lunz> does anyone using youtube.dl?
[04:45] <navets> how do I run the snddevices script? does anyone here know where they are?
[04:45] <Tmob> this is very annoying..
[04:45] <Evanlec> usrl, system > preferences > appearance > theme tab
[04:45] <Tmob> heh
[04:46] <Jordan_U> intelikey, If you choose to actually remove it rather than just replacing it ( which you should obviously try first ) be VERRY careful as removing apt will cause a lot of dependency breakage
[04:46] <River444> sweet, thanks guys
[04:46] <River444> great support :P
[04:46] <Evanlec> skagen, your welcome, and welcome to ubuntu :)
[04:46] <usrl> Evanlec: That doesn't change everything, and I'm talking more themes from the internet. The themes there are horribly limited
[04:46] <skagen> how about from winxp to ubuntu? do i still need to set a shared folder?
[04:46] <Evanlec> usrl, agreed, u can find more at gnome-looks.org
[04:46] <Jordan_U> usrl, try the gnome-art package
[04:47] <usrl> Evanlec: I'm looking there, and I tried one, but it only seems to effect window borders
[04:47] <Evanlec> skagen, for that you'll need samba
[04:47] <Evanlec> !samba | skagen
[04:47] <ubotu> skagen: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:47] <Tmob> ok i figured it
[04:47] <usrl> Jordan U: I'll try that, but unfortunately my ISP sucking combined with downloading a metric assload of games means I can't apt-get for awhile unless I want to lose a bunch of progress =/
[04:47] <Tmob> windows key + 1, 2,3
[04:47] <skagen> great! thanks guys! will be reading it now
[04:47] <intelikey> Jordan_U i found the problem.     but have a sound issue,  you want to help with it ?
[04:47] <Evanlec> usrl, it will change other things too, icons, panels, some changes are subtle, desktop background u hafta change urself ;p
[04:48] <beladona> hi, im new to linux and computers. is there a good typing tutorial program?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> intelikey, I can try :)
[04:48] <usrl> Evanlec: well in any case, it didn't =/ and I know, I mean backgrounds in nautilus and stuff
[04:48] <Evanlec> beladona, typing tutorial? like learning to type?
[04:48] <usrl> Evanlec: I'm trying to get my computer to be fairly dark (black), since I'm really pretty tired of staring at a lightbulb
[04:48] <linuxidiot> beladona: have you tried searching google?
[04:49] <intelikey> Jordan_U i need to setup the driver for my new card   no idea what it is   lshw says  product: ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]
[04:49] <nurbudiana> I can't connect to Dalnet server in Ubuntu. Can you help me?
[04:49] <beladona> i tried google every thing is for windows
[04:49] <Evanlec> usrl, yea, ive done that before, it involes downloading themes from gnome-looks.org and installing them...
[04:49] <Jordan_U> usrl, Many people have come here asking how to switch to their ISP's package mirror because then it doesn't count toward your download cap
[04:49] <usrl> Jordan: It's not a download cap
[04:49] <usrl> Jordan_U: Comcast just sucks.
[04:49] <intelikey> Jordan_U there isn't an snd-es13*    so  got clue-by-four ?
[04:49] <linuxidiot> beladona: you seem to be able to type well enough to chat in this irc channel
[04:50] <Jordan_U> beladona, Try Applications -> Add / Remove
[04:50] <intelikey> nurbudiana   /server irc.dalnet.net   ?
[04:50] <Jordan_U> intelikey, I assume that asoundconf list"
[04:50] <Evanlec> beladona, yea i mostly learned to type just by well...typing...mostly chatting with people, like in here
[04:50] <beladona> yeah my friend thinks i should be able to with outlooking at my hands
[04:51] <Jordan_U> intelikey, I assume that "asoundconf list" shows nothing?
[04:51] <Jordan_U> usrl, Ahh :)
[04:51] <Evanlec> beladona, they call that "touch typing" and dont worry, you'll get there, just takes a little time
[04:51] <nurbudiana> how to??? I'm a newbie
[04:51] <intelikey> Jordan_U -root: asoundconf: command not found    what's that in  alsa-utils ?
[04:51] <beladona> ok thanks
[04:52] <usrl> beladona: I think there's a tux typing or something out there
[04:52] <linuxidiot> beladona: just try no looking..
[04:52] <oephy> ttyry
[04:52] <Pyrobyte> hey all i opened OO calc for the first time and got this http://www.members.westnet.com.au/oreally/Screenshot.png  any idea on what might cause this and how to fix it?
[04:52] <usrl> dang, I was about to give her some programs to look up =/
[04:52] <Jordan_U> beladona, Are you at least using the right fingers for each key? If you are hunting and pecking no amount of "time" won't turn you into a touch typist
[04:53] <c0Ld> .
[04:53] <linuxidiot> Jordan_U: beladona left
[04:53] <Jordan_U> intelikey, Did you do a minimal install?
[04:54] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, i disagree...altho i spose some basics on the homerows and stuff is necessary
[04:54] <usrl> Jordan_U: I have to disagree. I learned to hunt and peck, and gradually just got faster and faster at it. I did some touchtyping stuff in elementary school, but I could always type faster by just moving my fingers where I knew the keys were
[04:54] <intelikey> Jordan_U no i did a less than minimal
[04:54] <intelikey> tty24 [root@computer.~] asoundconf list
[04:54] <intelikey> 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
[04:54] <intelikey> Jordan_U i installed alsa-utils and that's the output now  ^
[04:55] <usrl> Jordan_U: actually, I'm not sure if I'm really touch typing. I can type without looking, easily, or even stare off into space and not look at my text on the screen at all, but I don't know if my fingers are acting as recommended ;p my posture can be pretty bad too
[04:55] <roosty> how can i mount my usb disk ?
[04:55] <intelikey> !ntfs | roosty
[04:55] <ubotu> roosty: ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:55] <Jordan_U> roosty, It should mount automagically when you plug it in
[04:55] <Evanlec> usrl, are your fingers going back to the homerows before you start typing again?
[04:55] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, ok, I have tried the reconfigure and added the 'Option SHMConfig "on"' and 'Option HorizEdgeScroll "on"' to my xorg.conf file. I made sure the Synaptics Touchpad is listed in the ServerLayout section, however running snclient -l | grep HorizEdgeScroll shows 'HorizEdgeScroll = 0' even after restart. any other pointers?
[04:55] <john83> roosty just turn on your usb misk after plug in to your computer
[04:55] <usrl> evanlec: doubt it
[04:56] <roosty> yes intelikey
[04:56] <wolfjb> Jordan_U, I have restarted X a couple of times too
[04:56] <linuxidiot> roosty: mount /dev/sdaX /mount/pnt
[04:56] <RandomUsr> does anyone here know how to make LEAP work with network manager
[04:56] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, have u heard about OSS 4? http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/10/get-better-sound-in-ubuntu-with-brand.html
[04:56] <c0Ld> hmm, firefox won't connect to anything while im downloading torrents with HUGE swarms :(
[04:57] <roosty> ok thks a ll
[04:57] <Jordan_U> wolfjb, Before adding anything else you tried with just the vanilla reconfigure xorg.conf, correct?
[04:57] <wolfjb> yep
[04:57] <usrl> Evanlec: my fingers are in kinda an arch shape, I guess. like, left hand pinky on shift, index on T. Right hand index finger over J, pinky floating around return. my posture is pretty crap right now lol
[04:57] <wolfjb> no horiz scroll, vertical work perfectly
[04:57] <Evanlec> !leap
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about leap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <RandomUsr> ick
[04:57] <usrl> Evanlec: but it's not like this is the only way I type. I pretty much can type from any angle, I think
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Evanlec, Yes, I'm not sure what to think of it though
[04:58] <Evanlec> usrl, well right hand index on J is good, should work on getting left index on F
[04:58] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, me either, thats why i was hoping you'd have an opinion ;p
[04:59] <usrl> Evanlec: meh, I type plenty fast as it is. At this point, learning touchtyping the 'right' way would slow me down more than help. If I was going to butcher my speed, I'd switch to Dvorak
[04:59] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, until i read that i thot ALSA was just the natural evolution of sound drivers...but apparently its just a replacement for OSS due to lack of development
[04:59] <Evanlec> usrl, oh the "faster" keyboard layout?
[05:00] <Jordan_U> Evanlec, A lack of development due to OSS going proprietary :)
[05:00] <roosty> people when i plug in my usb key its showmy on my desk but when i try to open tell me this hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:00] <usrl> Evanlec: according to some studies and all sellers =P
[05:00] <Zombie> ALSA really was brilliant for its time.
[05:01] <Evanlec> Jordan_U, oh really? hmm, so oss4 is proprietary sofware?
[05:01] <roosty> people when i plug in my usb key its showmy on my desk but when i try to open tell me this hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:01] <Jordan_U> usrl, From what I have heard Dvorak isn't really any faster for the most part but it is much less stressful, may help curb carple tunnel
[05:01] <jimjam> hey, just a quick question: how do I use a multi-button mouse?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Evanlec, Was, now it's Free again :)
[05:01] <astro76> !mouse | jimjam
[05:01] <ubotu> jimjam: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:02] <[R]> what creates the /lib/firmware files?
[05:02] <usrl> Jordan_U: like I was saying. It probably would be faster, if it weren't for the fact that everybody uses QWERTY
[05:02] <jimjam> astro76: I see, thanks.
[05:02] <usrl> Jordan_U: having to switch back and forth would hurt your speed badly
[05:02] <Jordan_U> [R], Firmware packages... maybe you would get a better answer if you explained what you are trying to do
[05:03] <Evanlec> is there still no easier way to do extra buttons than imwheel?
[05:03] <[R]> Jordan_U: i built a custom kernel and there was a /lib/firmware/oldkernelversion with firmware for my wireless in it
[05:03] <[R]> Jordan_U: i want to make that dir for my new kernel
[05:04] <Pharserror> is there anyone in here that would be able to help out with a rubygems installation?
[05:04] <roosty> intelikey,   when i plug in my usb key its showmy on my desk but when i try to open tell me this hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:05] <Jordan_U> [R], What chipset?
[05:05] <Pharserror> or, would anyone know where I could go to find help on Ruby?
[05:05] <Pharserror> IRC-wise?
[05:05] <Evanlec> !ruby
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ruby - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:05] <[R]> Jordan_U: its a zd1211
[05:05] <wolfjb> Pharserror, what's the issue?
[05:05] <Evanlec> Pharserror, i think #ruby
[05:05] <intelikey> roosty idk.    sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sd* /mnt
[05:06] <Pharserror> wolfjb, I'm having problems installing rubygems
[05:06] <roosty> tnks intelikey
[05:06] <wolfjb> Pharserror, with apt-get or from the ruby website?
[05:06] <roosty> i use a script that the name its diskmounter to easy thks
[05:06] <intelikey> roosty that is to say you can mount it manually if you must.      the sd*  needs to be precise and the mount point /mnt may or may not exist.
[05:07] <Pharserror> wolfjb, I've already extracted the package to it's folder, but now when I attempt an install I get some errors
[05:07] <roosty> with the script its to easy :D
[05:07] <Pharserror> wolfjb, after I input "sudo ruby setup.rb"
[05:07] <intelikey> so now.    someone help me find a driver for this sound card
[05:08] <intelikey> Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 09)
[05:08] <[R]> Jordan_U: oh i figured it out... i was doing dpkg wrong... its linux-ubuntu-modules
[05:08] <wolfjb> Pharserror, I ran apt-get install rubygems to get it installed, and didn't need to run setup.rb
[05:09] <wolfjb> Pharserror, after that sudo gem update
[05:09] <Pharserror> hmm...I'll try that
[05:09] <wolfjb> Pharserror, worked perfectly for me
[05:09] <Pharserror> ok
[05:09] <roosty> how can i have the complete cube with compiz on mi desk ?
[05:09] <roosty> i have only 2 sides
[05:10] <roosty> how can i have the complete cube with compiz on mi desk ?
[05:11] <Pharserror> wolfjb, what was that command again to get rubygems?
[05:11] <RandomUsr> hmm
[05:11] <Pharserror> sudo apt-get rubygems?
[05:11] <wolfjb> Pharserror, sudo apt-get install rubygems
[05:12] <Pharserror> wolfjb, I'm getting errors with connecting to the universe or something
[05:13] <wolfjb> Pharserror, hmmm, that kind of needs to work since rubygems is in universe/interpreters
[05:13] <ckin2001> Pharserror, is it enabled in your sources list?
[05:14] <cobb28> intelikey: you need a linux driver for the ensoniq i assume?
[05:14] <wolfjb> Pharserror, look in System->Admin->Software Sources and make sure the universe option is checked
[05:15] <wolfjb> I think it's the second option
[05:15] <levander> I don't want to log into another box via XDMCP, I just wanna ssh into it and have an X program displayed on my local box.  How do I do that?
[05:15] <wolfjb> levander, slogin -X host then run the program you want
[05:16] <levander> wolfjb: slogin and not ssh?
[05:16] <wolfjb> levander, ssh -X would prbly work too, but I prefer to slogin
[05:16] <Pharserror> wolfjb, sorry went afk. I'm checking that out now
[05:16] <Olde> what's the name of the package that allows you to mount windows in ubuntu?
[05:16] <ckin2001> levander, ssh -X does work as well
[05:17] <Olde> ends in 3g
[05:17] <ckin2001> Olde, fuse
[05:18] <Olde> it's called fuse? ok
[05:18] <scguy318> Olde: ntfs-3g
[05:18] <wolfjb> levander, ssh -X host command would run the command on host and display it on local
[05:18] <Pharserror> wolfjb, I'm not seeing anything about software sources. what else could it be under?
[05:18] <Olde> thanks scguy
[05:18] <Evanlec> anyone here get imwheel to work with nautilus?
[05:18] <ckin2001> ty scguy, my bad
[05:19] <wolfjb> Pharserror, odd, well you could always just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line there
[05:19] <c0Ld> does anyone know a command that I can use to list all of my files in a certain folder on a text file? I'm trying ls -l /path/to/folder > test.txt, and it's working, but some of my files are several directories deep and won't show up. /path/to/file/* isn't showing all of them either
[05:20] <wolfjb> Pharserror,  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe or something like that
[05:20] <Chamunks> If someone were to microwave a thumbdrive how possible would it be to recover the data on the drive theoretically
[05:20] <wolfjb> !sources.list
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:20] <_Net_> I got a quick question; I just installed ubuntu succesfully restarted ubuntu and now I dont know how to run it again lol. I cant find any icons or anything to execute it
[05:20] <_Net_> I see a lot of Zend folders but not sure how to run it
[05:21] <_Net_> any help please?
[05:21] <scguy318> _Net_: if you installed Ubuntu, you should get the GRUB bootloader
[05:21] <scguy318> _Net_: assuming you're not booting from the CD again :P
[05:21] <monkey_instinct> I have a graphics card problem, is an NVIDIA Geforce 6150
[05:21] <_Net_> No I installed Zend Studio not ubuntu, ubuntu is fine and installed
[05:22] <scguy318> _Net_: ah
[05:22] <c0Ld> does anyone know a command that I can use to list all of my files in a certain folder on a text file? I'm trying ls -l /path/to/folder > test.txt, and it's working, but some of my files are several directories deep and won't show up. /path/to/file/* isn't showing all of them either
[05:22] <monkey_instinct> I just installed the binary drivers from the site but they don't seem to work
[05:22] <_Net_> Nothing to do with boot loading :)
[05:22] <ckin2001> c0Ld, ls -Rl
[05:22] <Pharserror> wolfjb, hmm it could be because of network problems it says. it's unable to connect otherwise
[05:22] <c0Ld> ckin2001: I'll try it, thanks :)
[05:22] <_Net_> I just need to know how to run zend again lol. The first it ran itself, but now i can find where to run it form.
[05:22] <monkey_instinct> the ubuntu default drivers didn't work either
[05:22] <scguy318> _Net_: is it anywhere in Applications?
[05:22] <wolfjb> c0Ld, find /path/to/folder -type f -print > test.txt
[05:22] <monkey_instinct> i'm typing this on a 640x480 resolution
[05:23] <chuy_max> hi guys, quick question: is it possible to redirect audio output to another jack?
[05:23] <scguy318> _Net: this may be of interest: http://www.zend.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=9387&S=906995b15d9da1800d086b31900a2ba8
[05:23] <chuy_max> I want to use my headphones in the blue jack, and speakers in the green jack, when I'm not using headphones, I just want to redirect audio to speakers, and viceversa
[05:23] <Chamunks> More importantly is it possible to recover data off a usb key disk thats been formatted?
[05:23] <Chamunks> or simply erased from the filesystem
[05:23] <wolfjb> Pharserror, bummer maybe try it later?
[05:23] <macd> Is there a way to set the duplex of a nic at boot, other than using /etc/network/interfaces? I have some nics bonding and cant use the setting there...
[05:23] <scguy318> Chamunks: probably Photorec or testdisk
 How can I access my partition on Windows from Ubuntu ? /dev/disk/by-label ?
 I'm using Live CD, which is running from Memory.
[05:23] <Clearzen> !backup
[05:23] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:23] <Pharserror> yeah
[05:23] <scguy318> Chamunks: most likely only the partition table was wiped
[05:24] <Pharserror> wolfjb, yeah I'll tackle this tomorrow. thanks for all your help
[05:24] <scguy318> _Net_: other than that I cannot be of any other assistance :(
[05:24] <wolfjb> Pharserror, np
[05:24] <cobb28> _Net_: is it in Applications > Sound and Video ?
[05:24] <wolfjb> Pharserror, ruby is cool, I use it quite a bit
[05:24] <Chamunks> scguy318, well the goal is to find a way to irrecoverably remove a file in an instant of urgency
[05:24] <scguy318> Chamunks: ah, you want to securely delete a file
[05:24] <twoshadetod> what "command" is the desktop search?
[05:24] <Chamunks> scguy318, yep :)
[05:25] <scguy318> Chamunks: the shred command I think?
[05:25] <Pharserror> wolfjb, heh I would too if I had it installed
[05:25] <Chamunks> scguy318, I'm just kindof delving into the whole concept of flash disk data destruction
[05:25] <monkey_instinct> NVIDIA Geforce 6150 problems, please help
[05:25] <scguy318> Chamunks: man shred for info
[05:26] <_Net_> cobb28: No its not, and its not under applications either
[05:26] <cube> i have a new pc build and it makes the thinking sound when my hd activity light goes on! does it mean my sata hd is messed up??
[05:26] <Chamunks> scguy318, well lets say I use a keydisk to contain some keyfiles for some encrypted disks and encrypted volumes contained within this volume
[05:26] <scguy318> Chamunks: playing with TrueCrypt
[05:26] <Chamunks> scguy318, in a sense the destruction of the known keyfiles would render the password useless
[05:27] <cube> the sound didn't happen right away when i installed ubuntu as a OS but now about a week later it happens when i open programs etc
[05:27] <cube> its like the classic crappy computer thinking sound, but this thing is a beast why is it doing it?
[05:27] <scguy318> Chamunks: so I'm guessing you want to wipe those keyfiles?
[05:27] <Chamunks> scguy318, among other things yeah im just trying to conceptualise the perfect framework for data security
[05:27] <Chamunks> scguy318, if the situation ever arrose yes
[05:28] <cube> Chamunks: paranoid of the fbi :)
[05:28] <scguy318> Chamunks: well, don't look at me, my password is 12345 :P
[05:28] <scguy318> Chamunks: my Ubuntu account pass anyway
[05:28] <River444> Hey can someone tell me why I cant get debian to display in applications?
[05:28] <Tom47> gramps no longer opens its database since i upgraded to gutsy.  anyone know how to fix it?
[05:28] <Zippy2> Chamunks: what do you use for encryption?
[05:28] <River444> so I can see my programs ive installed
[05:28] <Chamunks> scguy318, im thinking maybe depending on the extremity of the situation just a microwave would suffice
[05:29] <Chamunks> cube, no one in perticular im just curious essentially
[05:29] <cube> for sure... it would be cool to know u had the option
[05:29] <Chamunks> scguy318, i sure hope you dont have ssh enabled to the public if your flaunting that fact :P
[05:29] <scguy318> Chamunks: no services on here
[05:29] <cube> anyone know why my computer is making the thinking sound?? would it be my hard drive?
[05:29] <cube> it makes the sound when my hd activity light blinks
[05:30] <Zippy2> Chamunks: ?
[05:30] <P_Kable> is it normal that the ls command takes 30 seconds to react on sftp ???
[05:30] <Chamunks> Zippy2, well i dont really want to be using the build in encryption with ubuntu seeing as i dont understand it well enough yet
[05:30] <tr0seph>  I can't figure out how to get AssultCube to play in a windowed mode... With twinveiw one of my screens goes to 800x600 while the other maintains it's resolution. Can someone help me?
[05:30] <Zippy2> Chamunks: "the build"? are you using encryption?
[05:30] <Zippy2> or just talking about it?
[05:31] <Zippy2> P_Kable: no
[05:31] <cobb28> _Net_: can you ALT+F2 then type Zend
[05:31] <cube> im not too happy that my new pc build is making the thinking sound...the same 1 that old pos pc's make
[05:31] <scguy318> cube: probably your HDD then
[05:31] <Chamunks> Zippy2, so im using ubuntu encryption only for my main disk and ill be mounting a truecrypt (just talking about it at this point) volume that will be an entire disk within this fully encrypted os (of course the boot sector isnt encrypted though)
[05:32] <Zippy2> Chamunks: what is ubuntu enc? dm-crypt?
[05:32] <Chamunks> Zippy2, probably ubuntu gutsy alternate install disk for the encrypted lvm  (dm-crypt sounds right on the money)
[05:32] <_Net_> cobb28: It says Bash: Zend: Command not found
[05:32] <cube> scguy318: do you know if the drive would be making the noise for any reason or just it being bad?
[05:32] <Zippy2> i did that. i didnt like ubuntu for that. im going to use debian. theyre installer is better
[05:32] <Chamunks> Zippy2, lol i may be conciddered a terrible person for this but im kinda testing it out on my moms laptop first :P
[05:32] <ebuth> If I were to disable the automounting of a specfic partition, would modifying /etc/fstab be the best way?
[05:33] <Zippy2> their oops
[05:33] <cube> anyone know of any good readings at barnes and noble? im going to go there to get linux bible 07 and looking for something else to pickup
[05:33] <Zippy2> im going to sleep as soon as it wipes out my hd
[05:33] <Chamunks> Zippy2, its all good i understood what you meant to say...
[05:33] <Zippy2> with /dev/random
[05:33] <tr0seph>  I can't figure out how to get AssultCube to play in a windowed mode... With twinveiw one of my screens goes to 800x600 while the other maintains it's resolution. Help?? Suggestions??
[05:34] <scguy318> cube: its just the hard drive seeking and doing its thing
[05:34] <Zippy2> cube: run your manufacturer's diagnostic utility
[05:34] <Chamunks> Zippy2, well the point of my question was aimed at destroying keyfiles assuming that if someone ever forced a password for the encrypted operating system they would only get the operating system but no sensitive data
[05:34] <_Net_> cobb28: I found the directory where all the Zend .pngs, .jars and .config file and such are
[05:34] <cube> manufacturer for the mother board ?
[05:34] <Zippy2> Chamunks: ive wasted way too much time on this and i know what you mean
[05:34] <linxuz3r> i have a USB HDD when i transfer the files into it and unplug the USB HDD then plug in the usb hdd back again and check the file the file is not there anymore.... can someone help me please?
[05:34] <Chamunks> Zippy2, all of the sensitive data would be on the cross platform true crypt volume
[05:35] <cube> scguy318:yeah thats what i am thinking but my old 40gb ide drive didn't why would my new 400gb sata do it?
[05:35] <linxuz3r> please help
[05:35] <Zippy2> Chamunks: it's either a) totally encrypted hard drives with boot files (including key(s) on cdrom/flash/floppy, etc) or b) /boot with keys (or no keys) and everything else encrypted
[05:36] <Chamunks> Zippy2, Yeah i suppose one could use a usb key for the boot files couldent i... mmm interesting food for thought
[05:36] <tr0seph> cube: depends on how much ram you have. If you are constantly going to the swap, its going to read your HD a lot.
[05:36] <Zippy2> ive tried with freebsd geli and it sucked
[05:36] <cobb28> linxuz3r: after you write or copy to the drive, right click it and choose "unmount" then you will ge t apopup telling you it is safe to remove now
[05:36] <Zippy2> the keyboard froze on boot. i wasted dozens of hours on it to no avail (it would have worked without a keyfile)
[05:36] <linxuz3r> cobb28, is there a way to do it without unmounting the drive?
[05:36] <cube> trOseph: I have 2gb of ram per cpu (dual socket) and like 5.8gb of swap
[05:37] <Chamunks> Zippy2, well i heard that openbsd isnt regulated by the us crypto standards but im not too keen on going to a bsd install just to protect some barely sensitive data
[05:37] <tr0seph> cube: lol I don't know what the problem is then.
[05:37] <cobb28> linxuz3r: not sure, i just always right click the icon o nmy desktop and choose unmount and then that's it
[05:37] <Zippy2> cube: mfr for hd. some test mb
[05:37] <cube> its not good...i don't want to put this pretty box in a another one
[05:37] <danesh> hi guys
[05:37] <Chamunks> Zippy2, im just a big fan of making things difficult if things were to ever be in a pinch seeing as information is probably one of the most valuable commodities
[05:37] <cube> i am sure hitatchi doesn't support anything
[05:37] <crackintosh> did anyone's mysql break after upgrading to gutsy?
[05:38] <Zippy2> Chamunks: daily build of debian-installer has dm-crypt and loop-aes in the installer
[05:38] <Zippy2> ubuntu just has dm-crypt (they probably stole the installer from an older debian build)
[05:38] <linxuz3r> i wonder if there is such a way to do it automatically
[05:38] <cube> zippy: what is daily build?
[05:38] <Zippy2> cube: or you could check
[05:38] <tr0seph> cube: perhaps it has to do with this: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[05:38] <Zippy2> cube: im talking to chamunks
[05:38] <Zippy2> about the daily build
[05:38] <cube> lol pm him if you don't want others
[05:39] <Zippy2> its not a secret. i just directed to him. are you asking about it?
[05:39] <Chamunks> Zippy2, lol more than likely i see it happen quite often but you know how the whole opensource thing goes
[05:39] <danesh> tr0seph  : how to refresh my ubuntu 5.04 for 5.10?
[05:39] <Clearzen> With the --exclude command in rsync do you use commas to separate the excluded directories?
[05:39] <Zippy2> daily build is a more up-to-date version of the installer than the one released with the "release" (stable)
[05:39] <cube> tr0seph: that link was about switching to battery power though
[05:39] <UbuntuPwns> 7.04 for 7.10 you mean danesh ?
[05:39] <tr0seph> danesh: lol wut?
[05:39] <Chamunks> cube, it was directly after a pm'd message
[05:40] <danesh> UbuntuPwns : no, is 5.04 for 5.10 ...
[05:40] <UbuntuPwns> O.o
[05:40] <UbuntuPwns> hmmm got me on that one
[05:40] <Chamunks> Zippy2, ok that sounds like a good way to go I haven't looked at debian in a long time maybe its time to give it a go again.
[05:41] <prak> is there a program available in terminal where i randomly pick a folder?
[05:41] <tr0seph> danesh: ? "dist-upgrade"
[05:41] <cube> danesh: why do you want to stay with 5?
[05:41] <tr0seph> honestly
[05:41] <Zippy2> Chamunks: one tip tho. if youre going to use crypto, install it with the default kernel (or you wont be able to boot). and dont make a filesystem a random key; that doesnt wor
[05:41] <Zippy2> k
[05:41] <Chamunks> Zippy2, I'm looking into setting up some systems that will be containing sensitive data and i definitely would like to get this kind of system down
[05:42] <Zippy2> Chamunks: ive been installing ubuntu/debian dozens of times with dozens of failures
[05:42] <Zippy2> i dont know why i bother :(
[05:42] <Zippy2> this one now is for my laptop. i successfully got debian crypto to work at work
[05:42] <linxuz3r> what should i do so that when after 10 mins of inactivity my system goes to black screen then after i move the mouse or press any key it will ask me for password
[05:42] <danesh> tr0seph : i want installed a text mode version , but i dont have any here
[05:42] <Zippy2> 2 partitions (/ and swap) are dm-crypt and /private (200gigs) is loop-aes
[05:42] <Zippy2> i couldnt get everything to be dm-crypt or loop-aes, it wouldnt work
[05:42] <tr0seph> danesh: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:43] <[R]> is there a good/correct page that explains how to properly build custom kernel and rebuild the restricted modules pacakge? i'm seeing a lot of rando mstuff thatdoenst seem to work right
[05:43] <Zippy2> linxuz3r: take off your screensaver?
[05:43] <cube> danesh: aren't 5.04 and 5.10 pretty much the same? why not get gutsy?
[05:43] <scguy318> 5.10 is seriously old I think
[05:43] <scguy318> like VERY old
[05:43] <danesh> tr0seph : but it is stable?
[05:43] <Zippy2> it was stable
[05:44] <scguy318> danesh: it was, but its no longer supported
[05:44] <Chamunks> Zippy2, well ubuntu seems to take about two releases to get things on track well enough that it can install from machine to machine with a pretty reliable consistency for me so far any ways...
[05:44] <Zippy2> on new hardware it isn
[05:44] <cube> the last install cd i can find laying around was 4.10 i think
[05:44] <Zippy2> t
[05:44] <danesh> cube : but is stable?
[05:44] <tr0seph> danesh: older doesn't always mean more stable.
[05:44] <scguy318> danesh: no
[05:44] <scguy318> danesh: its not stable, the support ran out
[05:44] <sx66xfce> ah
[05:44] <cube> danesh: yeah..
[05:44] <scguy318> danesh: yeah, i know i'm stretching the meaning of the word stable, but you shouldn't be using 5.10
[05:44] <cube> scguy318: how is it not stable?
[05:45] <tr0seph> danesh: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" like I said before.
[05:45] <scguy318> cube: no longer supported, wont receive any security updates
[05:45] <scguy318> cube: as I said, im stretching the word
[05:45] <Not_Sure> Good evening to the patient visitors of his channel. I would like to ask how can I install gtk headers using sudo apt-get command?
[05:45] <Dranule> DanielFromBrisbane.com !!! stop the massacre!!! start the tv's before the internet does!!!
[05:45] <cube> then what version is going to support security updates
[05:45] <scguy318> cube: 6.06 and greater
[05:45] <cube> usually there releases last 2 years
[05:45] <prak> is there a program available in terminal where i randomly pick a folder?
[05:45] <danesh> ok guys thx
[05:45] <cube> 7.10 is greater
[05:45] <scguy318> cube: sure, if thats what you want
[05:45] <tr0seph> danesh: np
[05:46] <cube> scguy: what do you mean
[05:46] <scguy318> cube: if you want to install 7.10, thats fine :)
[05:46] <cube> scguy: im on it and its fine
[05:46] <scguy318> cube: me too
[05:46] <Not_Sure> Could somebody kindly let me know how to install gtk headers using sudo apt-get install ?
[05:47] <Dranule> DanielFromBrisbane.com !!! stop the massacre!!! start the tv's before the internet does!!!
[05:47] <sx66xfce> cube: yeah I am on it also
[05:47] <cube> i really think they are still doing updates
[05:47] <scguy318> Dranule: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <scguy318> cube: they are
[05:47] <Chamunks> Zippy2, thanks for the feedback
[05:47] <scguy318> cube: not anymore for 5.10 and below
[05:47] <kahrytan> !spam | Dranule
[05:47] <ubotu> Dranule: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[05:47] <sx66xfce> How fast in 7.10 on boot than 7.04?
[05:47] <scguy318> cube: but 6.06 and up yep
[05:47] <cube> oh i must suck at reading sorry sc, i thought u were saying the opposite
[05:48] <scguy318> cube: lol, its alright
[05:48] <Dranule> will ubuntu boot from my mp3 player?
[05:48] <cube> yeah those out of building servers that got owned had breezy badger i bet
[05:48] <kahrytan> Dranule,  But Ipod Linux will
[05:48] <Chamunks> Zippy2, one more thing i suppose, have you ever had to reinstall forcibly (persay software issue) have you had any luck getting your data off the encrypted filesystem?
[05:48] <tr0seph> Dranule: you'll have to reformat it.
[05:49] <zetheroo> now that I have installed the latest ATI drivers... how do I get rid of them?
[05:49] <cube> dranule: you would need a special linux kernal
[05:49] <_Net_> Fixed it; I made a .desktop file for it to auto run Zend KDE :)
[05:49] <sx66xfce> *kernel
[05:49] <mrbrown> hello
[05:49] <tr0seph> !usb | dranule
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <cube> ty
[05:49] <tr0seph> sh'sahk;dsagds
[05:49] <tr0seph> lame
[05:49] <Zippy2> Chamunks: i dont understand
[05:49] <sx66xfce> lol
[05:50] <Chamunks> Zippy2, something terrible happened to the operating system and you had to reinstall is there a way to access the encrypted files to grab relevant files to you before you formatted?
[05:51] <Zippy2> Chamunks: are the files on the / fs? is / encrypted?
[05:52] <[R]> is there a good/correct page that explains how to properly build custom kernel and rebuild the restricted modules pacakge? i'm seeing a lot of rando mstuff thatdoenst seem to work right
[05:52] <Chamunks> Zippy2, yeah assume / is encrypted is there a way to use something like a live disk to access the filesystem with the appropriate password?
[05:52] <tr0seph> dramule: check out http://pendrivelinux.com/
[05:52] <Zippy2> Chamunks: either ubuntu or debian ir both might do that i think. i dont remember if ive done it but i THINK i saw that there
[05:53] <Zippy2> you could check yourself
[05:53] <Dranule> DanielFromBrisbane.com !!! stop the massacre!!! start the tv's before the internet does!!!
[05:53] <Chamunks> Zippy2, ok as long as i wont be chasing ghosts if that ever ever happens to me and need to ever recover this data
[05:54] <Zippy2> you should backup anyway. you shouldnt have to boot off a cd
[05:54]  * Rabiddog goes to unix shell and types "man woman" and hits enter
[05:54] <Zippy2> RabidWeezle: type fg job
[05:54] <Zippy2> rabiddog
[05:54] <genii> Is this that windows trucrypt drive that someone's attempting to mount under linux?
[05:54] <genii> Seems faliliar anyhow
[05:54] <genii> *familiar
[05:54] <Zippy2> oops
[05:54] <Zippy2> fg blow i meant
[05:54] <Rabiddog> unkown@House:~$ man woman
[05:54] <Rabiddog> No manual entry for woman
[05:54] <Rabiddog> :P
[05:54] <Zippy2> fg blow
[05:54] <Chamunks> Zippy2, yeah well thats why i will be using a truecrypt volume because thats not tied to any perticular system as long as the right password and keyfiles are available you can access the volume
[05:55] <Zippy2> Chamunks: okay
[05:55] <Chamunks> Zippy2, i just asked because incase there were to be some file i hadnt backed up that would absolutely Need to be recovered that it would be possible without the operating system or boot loader
[05:56] <Zippy2> is the tc vol a file or partition
[05:56] <fload> anyone know why im getting this error while trying to run kismet.. FATAL: Support for capture source type 'wrt54g' was not built.  Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in.
[05:56] <fload> ive edited kismet.conf installed proper drivers (patched) rt73.. ive tried both wrt54g and rt73 to no avail
[05:56] <Dranule> hi
[05:56] <Dranule> will ubuntu boot from my mp3 player?
[05:56] <Dranule> DanielFromBrisbane.com !!! stop the massacre!!! start the tv's before the internet does!!!
[05:56] <fload> i have the wusb54gc
[05:56] <Chamunks> Zippy2, it would be a partition i suppose not a volume
[05:57] <bloony> Ive been strugling to install ubuntu for almost a week now.. and finaly I got it installed.. but I had to install 7.04.. can I easy update to 7.10 or is the only way to install?
[05:57] <fload> dranule try vista it boots on my ipod
[05:57] <Zippy2> Chamunks: if it's ext2/3 you need an ext2/3 driver in windows
[05:57] <scguy318> bloony: sure
[05:57] <scguy318> bloony: the Update Manager will give you the option to upgrade to 7.10
[05:57] <scguy318> bloony: though if your 7.04 is working just fine an upgrade might be disruptive
[05:57] <holzmodem> where can i request an update of one package (kdesvn) ?
[05:58] <bloony> scguy318: aah.. ok
[05:58] <Evanlec> [R], custom ubuntu kernels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:58] <Chamunks> Zippy2, i dont have any doze systems in my house anymore but yeah i have experience with that driver im conciddering reiserfs but we will see when it comes down to it i suppose
[05:58] <River444> anyone know why i cant extract the directory of off a tar.gz file
[05:58] <River444> im trying to install my wireless adapter
[05:58] <bloony> scguy318: yeah.. ok.. I just told it to install all updates so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.. Ive installed like 20 times now so If I have to do it one more time I can live with that :)
[05:58] <Zippy2> Chamunks: it might be harder to get truecrypt_kern drivers on a boot cd. you might need an ext hd/flash to boot from
[05:59] <[R]> Evanlec: tried that... horribly failed... restircted modules just woudl'nt work
[05:59] <Zippy2> loopaes and/or dmcrypt come with ubuntu/debian
[05:59] <Evanlec> [R], yea, i never even bothered, it looked foreboding
[05:59] <Chamunks> Zippy2, this would probably only be a post boot mount action
[06:00] <Zippy2> ive used truecrypt too. its ok
[06:00] <[R]> Evanlec: i wanted to try ubunut... i wanted it to wkr... but when i can't do something as simple as properly build a kernel and an nviida module... gotta go back to gentoo
[06:00] <River444> can someone help me on why i cant extract this file to install my wireless adapter the files is .tar.gz
[06:00] <Zippy2> i love mouse entropy
[06:00] <Zippy2> tar zvxf file
[06:00] <Evanlec> [R], i'm running a custom kernel right now....
[06:00] <Chamunks> Zippy2, you dont sound too thrilled about it though?
[06:00] <Evanlec> [R], i just used the drivers from nvidia.com
[06:01] <kimguru87> hi guys i want to connect my laptop dell c400 (feisty)to xp machine with lan card. so that i can copy important data from laptop ntfs partition to window machine.i m a noob to linux  and dont even know my lan card driver is installed in feisty or not.
[06:01] <Zippy2> Chamunks: i want to have kernel integration
[06:01] <robotpoet> Could someone tell me how to unregister a dll that I registered with regsvr32? (Wine related)
[06:01] <scguy318> robopoet: regsvr32 /u or something
[06:01] <robotpoet> cool. I'll give it a try. Thanks
[06:02] <Chamunks> Zippy2, yeah having to do that yourself seems a bit complicated if in a deployment senario
[06:02] <Chamunks> *scenario
[06:02] <Zippy2> also, im not too sure if truecrypt is covered in ubuntu repo
[06:02] <Zippy2> i dont recall it being in there
[06:02] <Evanlec> robotpoet, try #winehq
[06:02] <Zippy2> which means it wouldnt be upgraded automatically
[06:03] <robotpoet> Evanlec: I tried there. No one is responding.
[06:03] <Evanlec> robotpoet, yea it happens..
[06:03] <Chamunks> Zippy2, yeah i dont allways rely on the ubuntu repo's if i can grab something important directly off the site because sometimes the repo's are behind
[06:03] <intelikey> ok. i got the sound fix-ed.
[06:03] <kahrytan> !info truecrypt
[06:03] <ubotu> Package truecrypt does not exist in gutsy
[06:04] <Chamunks> well thats unfortunate :(
[06:04] <robotpoet> I tried regsvr32 /u wineasio.dll.so, but it didn't work. Bummer.
[06:04] <kahrytan> Truecrypt was never in repo
[06:04] <robotpoet> It said it failed to unregister
[06:04] <scguy318> robotpoet: you probably have to specify DLL name
[06:04] <scguy318> robotpoet: the way it would be on Windows
[06:04] <Zippy2> freebsd crypto looks promising
[06:04] <intelikey> now i have this "worthless" ati vidio card to deal with...
[06:04] <Zippy2> based on obsd
[06:04] <arnducky> Well whatabout Feisty and Dapper.  These bots already to newfangled modern, if'n yer askin me.
[06:05] <Zippy2> linux's is garbage
[06:05] <Chamunks> Zippy2, i like openbsd :)
[06:05] <robotpoet> scguy318: what do you mean? I typed the name of the file.
[06:05] <intelikey> i wish my nvidia card was supported in linux.  i'd put it in this box
[06:05] <Zippy2> i bet tc>linux crypto
[06:05] <arnducky> Hey Zippy2, WASsup?
[06:05] <Zippy2> id use freebsd if this thinkpad was more supported
[06:05] <Zippy2> arnducky: hi
[06:06] <arnducky> Out for your evening troll?
 How can I access my partition on Windows from Ubuntu ? /dev/disk/by-label ?
 I'm using Live CD, which is running from Memory.
[06:06] <arnducky> ;o}
[06:06] <gryfie__> intelikey: I'm not quite sure, but I guess most nvidia-cards are downwards-compatible
[06:06] <arnducky> pga did you ask in #ubuntu?
[06:06] <arnducky> oops !
[06:07] <intelikey> gryfie__ ?
[06:07] <gryfie__> try an older version (there are binarys for nvidia-cards)
[06:07] <Zippy2> arnducky: you got beef?
[06:07] <Chamunks> Zippy2, soo freebsd is based off openbsd?
[06:07] <Zippy2> Chamunks: their crypto is
[06:07] <Zippy2> a lot of everything is based on bsd
[06:07] <gryfie__> intelikey i wish my nvidia card was supported in linux.  i'd put it in this box
[06:07] <arnducky> pga, /dev/hda is the first phsyical device on the first IDE controller /dev/hda1 is the first partition
[06:07] <Zippy2> openbsd ssh?
[06:07] <intelikey> gryfie__ my nvidia card is not "supported" i can use the nv driver for it yes.  but it could do a lot more than that allows
[06:08] <gryfie__> Did you try to use a driver for the older version?
[06:08] <Zippy2> ok my download is done time to go for the night
[06:08] <gryfie__> ah, ok
[06:08] <Chamunks> Zippy2, yeah i like the open-ssh packages
[06:08] <kimguru87> hi guys i want to connect my laptop dell c400 (feisty)to xp machine with lan card. so that i can copy important data from laptop ntfs partition to window machine.i m a noob to linux  and dont even know my lan card driver is installed in feisty or not.
[06:08] <Zippy2> Chamunks: gotta go have a good night afk
[06:08] <infornography> Anybody know of a resolution for the constant crashes when Azureus starts up?
[06:08] <Chamunks> Zippy2, you too
[06:09] <Chamunks> thanks all
[06:09] <pga> arnducky sata here, it should be /dev/sdaN
[06:09] <pga> where N is the number
[06:09] <arnducky> pga, Ubuntu usually mounts things in /media/hda1 /media/hda2 /media/hda[n]
[06:09] <scguy318> kimguru87: crossover, static IPs for both machines, probably SMB
[06:09] <arnducky> pga yup unless it is the second disk then it would be /dev/sdb
[06:11] <Dranule> DanielFromBrisbane.com !!! stop the massacre!!! start the tv's before the internet does!!!
[06:11] <pga> arnducky But I mount my data partition (/dev/sda3 > /mnt/data), but I keep getting permission denied when accessing /mnt/data why is that? I just want to backup my data.
[06:11] <arnducky> pga, just look in your /etc/fstab and if a mount point is defined you will see it (carefull not to change this file unless you know what you are doing though) and yes, 'N' represents the partition number.  There is a pretty good explanation of this in the Ubuntu user guide and in the info documents for Linux too
[06:11] <kahrytan> pga, It's SDA or SDB for IDE now too
[06:12] <kahrytan> Make backup of fstab
[06:12] <infornography> Nobody knows how to get azureus working?
[06:12] <Not_Sure> I would like to ask what could be an issue with g++ compiler if it does not see my /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h file
[06:13] <kahrytan> infornography,  Don't. Use older Utorrent or Deluge.
[06:13] <arnducky> kahrytan, do you mean P-ATA ???  I have Gutsy and I still see my ATAPI dvdram drive as /dev/hda (it's on the first IDE controller).  Only my SATA drives are /dev/sda
[06:13] <pga> arnducky When i typed cat /etc/fstab >> unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0 [and] tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0
[06:13] <intelikey> pga that is because linux defaults to a secure *mask for file systems that don't have permissions bits    try mounting it with   umask=000   if you want permiscuse setting
[06:13] <kahrytan> arnducky, IDE = PATA
[06:13] <prak> infornography: which part of azureus isn't working?
[06:13] <Ebiggs> Could someone help me to get flash working in 64-bit 7.10?
[06:13] <infornography> It crashes when it starts up, seems to be a pretty common bug
[06:13] <kahrytan> arnducky, All my IDE drives are /dev/sda or sdb
[06:13] <infornography> But I cant find a resolution with google
[06:14] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, go to flash.com and install the plug-in in firefox...ubuntu will download and setup nspluginwrapper for you and all will be well
[06:14] <jc_> ebiggs what problem are you having, I'm having trouble as well
[06:14] <arnducky> kahrytan, yes, of course but I still see my... huh???  Do you have Gutsy?
[06:14] <warbler> infornography: azureus is a resource hog - what are your system specs?
[06:14] <kahrytan> infornography,  don't use that torrent client
[06:14] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Okay, thanks.
[06:14] <pga> arnducky But when i type cat /etc/mtab .. I see >> /dev/sda3 /mnt/data ntfs rw 0 0 .
[06:14] <kahrytan> arnducky,  I use Gutsy. I just check fstab. all sda or sdb
[06:15] <infornography> My system specs are more than adequate. Its some kind of java conflict I think
[06:15] <prak> infornography: do you where exactly azureus crashes during start up?
[06:15] <arnducky> kahrytan, azureus has some very nice features
[06:15] <Evanlec> yea azureus is...java based..yuck
[06:15] <infornography> never mind, guess I will just have to use another client
[06:15] <Evanlec> infornography, get Deluge , its way better
[06:15] <kahrytan> arnducky, deluge has Peerguardian list support
[06:15] <arnducky> kahrytan, are you using USB or firewire controllers?
[06:15] <tony_> what progs are available to edit my website kinda like DREAMWEAVER
[06:15] <infornography> yeah fuck it, I'll just use dealuge. Thanks anyway
[06:16] <warbler> infornorgraphy: I've found none faster then rtorrent
[06:16] <kahrytan> arnducky, Ubuntu seens to using a scsi connection to drives
[06:16] <kahrytan> *seems
[06:16] <nila> can someone help me
[06:17] <warbler> !ask
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:17] <tony_> anyone know where i can find the linux ubuntu 7.10 equvalent of DREAMWEAVER ?
[06:17] <kahrytan> tony_, I recommend kompozer.
[06:17] <nila> my wireless keeps disconnecting after a little while and the only way I can seem to get it back is to reboot my machine
[06:17] <kahrytan> !info kompozer
[06:17] <ubotu> kompozer: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.10-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8510 kB, installed size 26160 kB
[06:17] <pga> arnducky But when i type cat /etc/mtab .. I see >> /dev/sda3 /mnt/data ntfs rw 0 0 .
[06:17] <tony_> !info kompozer
[06:17] <tony_> ty
[06:17] <prak> infornography: i think it's the program b/c azureus crashed on me too
[06:17] <kahrytan> tony_, Or Amaya. I like Kompozer. Easier to use.
[06:17] <arnducky> pga did you define a custom mount point somehow?   I haven't seen /mnt/* used since Breezy/Dapper
[06:17] <kahrytan> tony_, NVU isnt updated anymore. Hence Kompozer. which is KDE based.
[06:18] <warbler> kahrytan: why do you say it is scsi? - I think ubuntu is calling ide drives sata
[06:18] <Not_Sure> If g++ cannot locate gtk.h, what could be an issue?
[06:18] <nila> can anyone help?
[06:18] <kahrytan> warbler, cuz I looked in properties. Connection: SCSI
[06:18] <nila> the wireless works perfectly under Xp / Vista
[06:18] <warbler> k
[06:18] <nila> only under Ubuntu does it cut off
[06:18] <intelikey> pha mtab doesn't change until an fs is mounted/dismounted/remounted
[06:19] <intelikey> pick one ^
[06:19] <tony_> does kompozer come with 7.10?
[06:19] <arnducky> kahrytan, more likely just the kernel driver is for those particular I/O controllers is "SCSI"
[06:19] <GhamsteR> hi
[06:19] <kahrytan> arnducky,  which makes it /dev/sda
[06:19] <GhamsteR> anyone can help me with sth?
[06:20] <jc_> nila what wireless card do you have/
[06:20] <intelikey> warbler and kahrytan the /dev/sd* devices are all scsi
[06:20] <kahrytan> arnducky,  S standing for scsi it seems
[06:20] <arnducky> kahrytan, let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <GhamsteR> i want to install Quake 4 at my PC
[06:20] <kahrytan> arnducky, I can't :(
[06:20] <arnducky> kahrytan, yes, that's correct
[06:20] <GhamsteR> #ubuntu-gr
[06:20] <warbler> intelikey: then I'll ask the same question - why - if they are ide?
[06:20] <tony_> what is the prog wine?
[06:21] <intelikey> warbler scsi-ide emulation
[06:21] <ctop> windows emulator tony
[06:21] <prak> !wine > tony_
[06:21] <warbler> k
[06:21] <arnducky> kahrytan, you can't /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic ??
[06:21] <prak> !wine
[06:21] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:21] <prak> here you go tony_
[06:21] <warbler> !cedega
[06:21] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:21] <kahrytan> SCSI bus  is faster then using IDE DMA?
[06:22] <intelikey> kahrytan real scsi is.
[06:22] <Wisteso> ubotu forgot the word 'illegitimate'
[06:22] <kahrytan> Cedega is based on OLD WINE
[06:22] <intelikey> kahrytan emulated, i'd have to say no.
[06:22] <prak> is there a program available in terminal where i randomly pick a folder?
[06:22] <kahrytan> arnducky,  get my pm?
[06:23] <intelikey> prak you could script it.   i don't know of anything premade for that.  but you might find something on the web
[06:23] <nila> so no one can help me get my wireless working properly?
[06:23] <tony_> how do i make waffles with ubuntu?
[06:23] <prak> intelikey: do i use bash script or perl script?
[06:24] <intelikey> bash
[06:24] <tony_> nila buy airport extreme
[06:24] <warbler> nila: I read an article from the bloke that made knoppix on that  - one min
[06:24] <arnducky> tony, add http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt to your repositories and do apt-get update and you'll get the most current official packages for your distro and version (including Ubuntu up to 7.10 64-bit of course)
[06:24] <tony_> how do i log in as root?
[06:24] <tony_> i type su
[06:24] <intelikey> prak  here is one i wrote for randomly playing sound files from the console   you can gleen the scrambler out of it if you like   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/42724
[06:24] <prak> intelikey: i see; would bash also work for decoding mp3 files to manipulate the quality?
[06:25] <tony_> and the pw /= root
[06:25] <arnducky> kahrytan, no, you need to be reigistered and logged in with NickServ to send /MSG, /QUERY and /NOTICE on this network
[06:25] <pga> arnducky I've mounted the partition /dev/sda3 to /mnt/data that's all.
[06:25] <warbler> nila: what is the chipset in the notebook?
[06:25] <kahrytan> arnducky,  I am.
[06:26] <intelikey> prak yes it would.    basicly anything you can do from the command line you can do in a shell script     and anything you can do in a gui you can do on the command line.   that's how linux thinks.
[06:26] <tony_> mm waffles
[06:26] <usrl> In gnome-art, is there a reason that on the Login Manager screen you can't install any of them?
[06:26] <tony_> HOW DO I LOG IN AS ROOT?
[06:26] <arnducky> pga, do you have a 'standard... oh, NM there you are -- I haven't set this client to beep, flash or anything... sorry
[06:26] <usrl> tony_: you don't. Use sudo.
[06:26] <Wisteso> ALT-F4
[06:26] <nila> its not a notebook
[06:26] <nila> its a desktop
[06:26] <ctop> sudo....
[06:26] <kahrytan> !rood | tony_
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rood - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <tony_> sudo?
[06:27] <kahrytan> !root | tony_
[06:27] <intelikey> tony_ unless you set a root password you don't      exception  single user mode
[06:27] <ubotu> tony_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:27] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: I tried installing the Flash Installer from Adobe's site, but when running it it says that it is not for x86-64-bit
[06:27] <warbler> nila: then the hardware???
[06:27] <nila> its a Dlink - DWL-G510
[06:27] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, ur running gutsy right?
[06:27] <tony_> bunch of matrix fans...great
[06:27] <Wisteso> is that a problem?
[06:28] <tony_> r there waffles in the matrix?
[06:28] <Davy_Jones> i can't browse my hard drive once i installed ubuntu.. i issued 'nautilus' in the terminal and it sits there does nothing and doesn't give error messages, what can be the problem?
[06:28] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Yes
[06:28] <usrl> tony_: it's got nothing to do with The Matrix. You don't use root. That's all.
[06:28] <tony_> ic
[06:28] <ctop> have you tried ndiswrapper nila
[06:29] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, hm, okay, well go to addons manager in firefox and remove the flash plug-in
[06:29] <tony_> waffles r still great
[06:29] <Angelizho> someone speak spanish? or exist a irc channel in spanish?? :S
[06:29] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: No need, it didn't install.
[06:29] <kahrytan> !spanish
[06:29] <tony_> cee
[06:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[06:29] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, and then restart firefox...and try it again...it should bring up a synaptic window that downloads nswrapperplugin and stuff
[06:29] <Angelizho> ok thank you :D
[06:30] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: After running the installer I get an error line saying that my architecture (x86_64) is not supported by the installer.
[06:30] <nila> ctop no I haven't
[06:30] <nila> how do I do that?
[06:30] <tony_> is there a way to eat waffles vitually in ubuntu?
[06:31] <warbler> nila: are you using ndiswrapper and the windows driver?
[06:31] <Bonster> !ndiswrapper
[06:31] <Davy_Jones> what is it with you and waffles?
[06:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:31] <prak> thanks for your help intelikey
[06:31] <Agent_bob> why i always get  """ Install these packages without verification [y/N]? """  ?
[06:31] <nila> no I'm just using the windows ones
[06:32] <nila> I mean Ubuntu ones
[06:32] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, okay...umm, try going to youtube and see if it pops up the installer thing when u click on "this page requires additional plugs" at the top...try installing that way, that way worked for me
[06:32] <warbler> nila: this site says that is the best option - http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/28435.html
[06:32] <Ebiggs> Tried that already, no popup/bar.
[06:32] <Davy_Jones> nautilus doesn't start up, what should i do?
[06:32] <tony_> davey have u ever had a waffle?
[06:32] <ctop> doesnt look like your card is support nila. i would try ndiswrapper and if that doesnt work for you get a new card. check this out. http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[06:33] <Agent_bob> someone ?
[06:33] <pcglue> How can I find out what version of lirc is in use?
[06:34] <tony_> !waffles
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about waffles - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <warbler> Davy_Jones: have you tried rebooting - I have that prob on occasion and a reboot gets things working again
[06:34] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, and if that doesnt work, just do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <tony_> where can i find sudo?
[06:34] <Davy_Jones> warbler: ok, i'll try rebooting
[06:34] <warbler> k
[06:35] <Agent_bob> tony_ which sudo
[06:35] <usrl> Where do I go to setup Splash screen and Login screen?
[06:35] <tony_> good question
[06:35] <usrl> disregard that last statement, I **** ****s.
[06:35] <tony_> no dont
[06:35] <tony_> i wanna know
[06:35] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: That appears to be working.
[06:35] <Agent_bob> tony_ no, type that.    which <anycommandhere>
[06:35] <warbler> usrl: for the splash screen there is a tutorial at gnome-art
[06:35] <tony_> which <waffles>
[06:36] <usrl> warbler: it's System->Preferences->Splash Screen. My eyes failed me.
[06:36] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, cool, yea i knew it was pretty easy
[06:36] <warbler> k
[06:36] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, dont bother he's just bein a jackass
[06:37] <warbler> usrl: I added my own pick to the splash screen following the tute at gnome-art
[06:37] <Agent_bob> tony_ ok if you like using the irc client type    /exec -o which sudo
[06:37] <warbler> *pic
[06:37] <tony_> ur funny
[06:37] <tony_> but seriously
[06:37] <ctop> /usr/bin/sudo
[06:37] <Agent_bob> see
[06:37] <warbler> !sudo
[06:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:37] <Penns> g-nite ppl, Im just looking 4 a little of your polite help, I barely installed linux from a liveCD (it is just my second time), and I realized that my lilo.conf doesnt display all the partitions I made, it looks kindda weird, could you please take a look at it?
[06:38] <tony_> wher/how do i get to sudo ?
[06:38] <Flux-D> Penns: use grub its better :)
[06:38] <Penns> www.pastebin.org/6796
[06:38] <warbler> tony_: in the terminal before you do something type sudo
[06:38] <Agent_bob> /exec -o sudo echo "my sudo works"
[06:38] <tony_> i do the desktop srearch and a gear logo pops up and i click and nothing happens
[06:39] <NewToLinux> ubotu: help
[06:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:39] <tony_> !findsudo
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about findsudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <tony_> !alkowing
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alkowing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Penns> can anybody help me? :)
[06:39] <Madpilot> tony_, please don't spam the bot
[06:39] <tony_> sry
[06:40] <tony_> i'm trying to find sudo
[06:40] <NewToLinux> Sorry I was checking for that URL :-X
[06:40] <Agent_bob> tony_ i told you how to find it.
[06:40] <tony_> again please
[06:40] <Jordan_U> On an install which was upgraded from a non LTS to an LTS version, will update manager suggest installation of a non LTS version?
[06:40] <Wisteso> ...
[06:41] <Jordan_U> By default that is.
[06:41] <Agent_bob> tony_  type   which sudo      if that's not what you want,  then try to make it clear what you do want.
[06:41] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, I don't think so. dapper had to be poked to upgrade to feisty.
[06:41] <tony_> the one that makes things go
[06:41] <Agent_bob> tony_ like type that in a terminal window
[06:41] <tony_> the root
[06:41] <tony_> o
[06:42] <ctop> append sudo before a command do run it as root...
[06:42] <Agent_bob> tony_ i even said if you don't want to use a terminal, if you like using yor irc client   then   /exec -o which sudo
[06:42] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, dont bother with him i said!
[06:42] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, he's just toying with you
[06:42] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Hey....For some reason that still doesn't work after installing through apt-get.
[06:43] <tony_> /usr/bin/sudo
[06:43] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, aww man...what now?
[06:43] <Agent_bob> tony_   and now that you have found it.      sudo -i    will get you a root shell in that window
[06:43] <tony_> sudi -i
[06:43] <tony_> sudo -i
[06:43] <Ebiggs> It seemed to be successful in the terminal.
[06:43] <tony_> there is no window
[06:43] <Agent_bob> yes  sudo -i
[06:43] <Ebiggs> But still no dice.  It doesn't appear in the add-ons list either.
[06:43] <tony_> quack
[06:44] <DisabledDuck> for some reason, whenever i open Azureus opens for about 2 seconds and immediately closes itself
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Madpilot, Good, I have a friend who knows almost nothing about computers, I set up an Ubuntu box for her with Feisty and so I hope that once it get's to Hardy it will not suggest for her to install a non LTS version since Feisty has all of the features she needs ( in fact so does Dapper which I really should have set up for her instead )
[06:44] <Evanlec> tony_, cut the shit eh?
[06:44] <tony_> sory coffee is getting to me
[06:45] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, hum...i think u might wanna try rebooting, firefox may still be running in the background or something
[06:45] <NewToLinux> Would an Empty Line in Menu.lst cause an error ?
[06:45] <tony_> HAHA i figured it out
[06:45] <tony_> thanks dudes
[06:45] <Jordan_U> Madpilot, I am actually really surprised because she hasn't asked me one question, and she has had it for more than 6 months, I guess I need to have more faith in Ubuntu :)
[06:45] <Flux-D> DisabledDuck: make sure u have java installed
[06:45] <Evanlec> NewToLinux, no..
[06:45] <Ebiggs> Alright.
[06:45] <Agent_bob> Evanlec is "reboot" becoming a standard answer here ?
[06:45] <musikgoat> can anyone suggest why smb wont allow me to write to a folder that I have set to writable in the smb.conf ?  I am logged in as a user that has access to the drive.  the drive is mounted with the users,user options of jfs
[06:45] <NewToLinux> Evanlec: How about a space?
[06:45] <DisabledDuck> Flux-D: i do, but i'm running 64-bit... so i think it hates me
[06:45] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, lol..no but i donno what else to try ;p
[06:46] <Ebiggs> Agent_bob: Hey, I've helped like ten people with that today. =P
[06:46] <Agent_bob> Evanlec killall firefox   ?
[06:46] <ctop> disabledduck it did the same for me so i ditched it for deluge
[06:46] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, we got a family friend onto dapper (from win98) and he's had very few questions.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Agent_bob, Evanlec firefox-bin
[06:46] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, yea that might work too
[06:46] <Agent_bob> kill -9 `pidof firefox`
[06:46] <DisabledDuck> ctop: deluge?
[06:46] <Flux-D> DisabledDuck: ooh I am not too sure then does java have a 64 bit version?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Agent_bob, pkill ;)
[06:46] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, for basic users, the 'just works' factor is good. he also lucked out a bit with hardware - all his existing stuff worked with Ubuntu.
[06:46] <ctop> google it
[06:46] <Evanlec> or killall firefox* ?
[06:47] <Flux-D> DisabledDuck: deluge is another client based on libtorrent pretty good kinda like utorrent on windows
[06:47] <Evanlec> Flux-D, it does not..
[06:47] <usrl> ok, I've got my splash screen and login screen working, but the background is still the default light brown ubuntu color. How can I change that? I've tried changing the solid color on the wallpaper screen to black,a nd that doesn't work
[06:47] <tony_> now that im logged in as root how do i do wine again
[06:47] <Agent_bob> Evanlec anyway.  lots of things that don't require making linux look like M$ reboot os
[06:47] <ctop> lol tony have you ever tried google
[06:47] <usrl> nevermind, I think I was looking in the wrong place
[06:47] <tony_> whats google?
[06:47] <Evanlec> i wish adobe/macromedia would get their heads out of their asses and make a 64-bit version of their god damn crap software!
[06:47] <tony_> jk
[06:47] <ctop> dont know google it and find out
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Madpilot, I wonder if she is going to upgrade or not, I doubt that update-manager prompts when a release will soon no longer be supported
[06:48] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Still nothing.
[06:48] <astroman> so i just upgraded to gutsy and now my wireless craps out after about a minute
[06:48] <tony_> i like live help better
[06:48] <Evanlec> Agent_bob, yea true...
[06:48] <warbler> usrl: do you have a background you want to use?
[06:48] <astroman> i had it working fine in feisty
[06:48] <musikgoat> can anyone suggest why smb wont allow me to write to a folder that I have set to writable in the smb.conf ?  I am logged in as a user that has access to the drive.  the drive is mounted with the users,user options of jfs
[06:48] <Flux-D> I have seen in the past few weeks people want windows to look like ubuntu and gnome for some reason and tonnes of new themes :/
[06:48] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, im gonna transfer u over to Agent_bob cuz i think he knows more then me ;p
[06:48] <astroman> dell broadcom chip, i used ndiswrapper before, but i can't get it to work in gutsy.  any ideas?
[06:48] <NewToLinux> I installed AMD64 DVD version and it went without any problems. Until I couldnt get my Tuner card to work and reinstalled WIndows but now I get errors on my Grub and have to edit root (hd0,0) line always . I think I sometimes Have to change it to (hd1,0) and sometimes to (hd0,0) .
[06:48] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, not sure if it does - I was running a Breezy server long after it dropped out of support, and at least at the command line the was  no notificaiton
[06:48] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Mk.  Lol
[06:49] <Jordan_U> astroman, have you tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[06:49] <Ebiggs> Sounds like Microsoft tech support.
[06:49] <tony_> !wine
[06:49] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:49] <warbler> !beer
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Ebiggs> Agent_bob: Hey, any ideas on getting flash to work in 64-bit firefox?
[06:49] <tony_> !shrooms
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shrooms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Ebiggs> Can we kick him?
[06:49] <Flux-D> tony_: please dont abuse the bot
[06:49] <Agent_bob> Ebiggs nope
[06:49] <dahitokiri> so for some reason the default -vo option of mplayer conflicts with my rhythmbox app
[06:50] <tony_> what about warbler
[06:50] <dahitokiri> which vo is recommended to switch to?
[06:50] <astroman> yeah, if i enable the driver through the restricted manager, it connects but it disconnects after about a minute
[06:50] <tony_> u guys just dont like waffles
[06:50] <Flux-D> warbler: u too
[06:50] <astroman> and then the card shuts off
[06:50] <warbler> k
[06:50] <Jordan_U> astroman, Is it a bcm4318 ?
[06:50] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, i suggest go to ubuntuforums.org under x86_64 users forum, theres usually lots of threads about flash
[06:50] <Madpilot> tony_, enough off-topic stuff, OK? Join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat.
[06:51] <tony_> ic
[06:51] <tony_> !virtualbox
[06:51] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:51] <Ebiggs> Evanlec: Alright.  I'll mess with it more tomorrow.  Thanks for trying though.
[06:51] <astroman> maybe, i'm not sure what specific chip it is.  i tried using the same ndiswrapper workaround that worked for me in feisty
[06:51] <dahitokiri> anyone?
[06:51] <tony_> !compiz
[06:51] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:51] <Flux-D> astroman: type in lspci in terminal
[06:51] <usrl> ok, yeah, I got the background behind the login screen to go black, but how do I get the background behind the splash screen to not be brown?
[06:52] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, yea sorry,
[06:52] <astroman>  Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[06:52] <Evanlec> Ebiggs, oh well i meant try installing again after reboot, did u do that?
[06:52] <tony_> !help
[06:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:52] <astroman> so it's a 4311
[06:52] <NewToLinux> I wish the bot had FAQS on AMD64 stuff also :(
[06:52] <Flux-D> astroman: I have had too many disconnection problems so I use ndiswrapper
[06:53] <Agent_bob> Ebiggs i have four reasons that i can't help you on that.   1. it's flash and flash is non-free   2. it's firefox and i don't like ff  3. it's 64bit and i only messed with 64bit one time.  (thus ignorance)   4. haven't followed what all you have tried / done and i'm too busy to recap it.
[06:53] <jscinoz> hey guys, my nvidia card keeps changing its frequencies (changes to 275 core, 301 mem, from the default 400/600) at any random time, what causes this and how can i make it stop
[06:53] <astroman> Flux-D: that's what i've been trying to do, but i can't get it to work
[06:54] <astroman> Flux-D: following this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[06:54] <tony_> if i buy a new graphics card is ubuntu gunna recognize it when i boot?
[06:54] <Flux-D> astroman: use this tut with the drivers u got from ur laptop company for windows http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/get-wi-fi-working-on-dell-inspiron-1501-with-ubuntu/
[06:54] <usrl> ok, yeah, I got the background behind the login screen to go black, but how do I get the background behind the splash screen to not be brown? sorry if I already asked this BTW, my network has been crap lately
[06:54] <bro-man> Greeting from East LA... is there a line for 'desperately needing help' around here ?
[06:55] <tony_>  if i buy a new graphics card is ubuntu gunna recognize it when i boot?
[06:55] <Flux-D> bro-man: ask :)
[06:55] <Flux-D> tony_: depends but most probably yes
[06:55] <smmagic> Can someone recommend a printer that works with ubuntu?
[06:55] <tony_> ty
[06:55] <elkbuntu> bro-man, asking your question straight up is usually quicker
[06:55] <astroman> Flux-D: i've tried that 3 times already, but i guess i'll do it again.  should the protected firmware thing be disabled?
[06:55] <warbler> usrl: I've added my own pic to the splash screen
[06:55] <bro-man> I am so 'in a spot' that I'm kinda freakin' out...
[06:55] <Flux-D> smmagic: I think HP, Epsons work
[06:55] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, i have a question, what do you guys use for contact management?  like names, address, and stuff
[06:55] <Agent_bob> smmagic hp psc XXX
[06:55] <tony_> what about a SLING??
[06:55] <smmagic> HP PSC any number?
[06:56] <usrl> warbler: stop spamming please.
[06:56] <Madpilot> zgmf-x20a, Evolution's address book has space for all that stuf
[06:56] <tony_> zgmf a phone
[06:56] <bro-man> I was upgrading from edgy to feisty with the Upgrade Manager... and it FROZE !!!
[06:56] <Flux-D> astroman: u gotta compile from source, repo one is not good
[06:56] <Madpilot> smmagic, linuxprinting.org - but go with HP, they've got good support in Linux
[06:56] <warbler> usrl: it is not spam but an attempt to help you with your repeated questions
[06:57] <astroman> Flux-D: yeah i have been, tried it with ndis 1.47 and 1.49
[06:57] <warbler> usrl: gconf editor can help
[06:57] <Flux-D> astroman: make sure u do what they do works perfectly for me all 5 times
[06:57] <zgmf-x20a> Madpilot: i see, but that is the only app for that?  dont really like how its tied to email.... ok, another question then, can i import and export via csv files???
[06:57] <astroman> Flux-D: alright i'll go do it again
[06:57] <Agent_bob> smmagic pretty much.  yeah    but that's not the only ones that work well i'm sure.    i've had bad luck with brother's tho
[06:57] <tony_> how do i hack the DOD in ubuntu?
[06:58] <Evanlec> tony_, cut the shit
[06:58] <Madpilot> zgmf-x20a, yes, Evolution can use csv
[06:58] <Agent_bob> tony_ edit the source
[06:58] <zgmf-x20a> Madpilot: cool, ill give it a shot then, see how the app itself is
[06:58] <Evanlec> uh oh...
[06:58] <usrl> warbler: then please read what I'm saying instead of saying the same thing over and over again
[06:58] <zgmf-x20a> Madpilot: thank you
[06:58] <Evanlec> no more tony ;p
[06:58] <Evanlec> yes thx u
[06:59] <warbler> usrl: you don't wanta brown splash screen
[06:59] <Evanlec> lol
[06:59] <bro-man> I was upgrading from edgy to feisty with the Upgrade Manager... and it FROZE !!!  It asked my about the configuration of my php.ini file and I selected the option for 'opening a seperate terminal', well, it never opened and the selection box froze... now I am stuck in the upgrade but I managed to get IRC up...so here I am.
[07:00] <Jordan_U> bro-man, So update manager is still running, correct?
[07:00] <bro-man> yes
[07:01] <waffles> any prog better than wine?
[07:01] <usrl> waffles: plenty, but for what purpose?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> bro-man, If at any point it completely crashes you will probably be fine if you just run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", but hopefully that won't be necessary
[07:01] <ctop> cedega
[07:01] <waffles> installing exe
[07:01] <scragar> waffles: not unless you want to install a virtual PC
[07:01] <waffles> like virtual box?
[07:01] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Can you give a sreenshot or pastebin the text?
[07:01] <jscinoz> hey guys, my nvidia card keeps changing its frequencies (changes to 275 core, 301 mem, from the default 400/600) at any random time, what causes this and how can i make it stop
[07:02] <Flux-D> Madpilot: waffles = tony
[07:02] <DisabledDuck> i have a verizon wireless cell phone with a connector for my PC, does anyone know how to get my cell phone to sync with Ubuntu?
[07:02] <bro-man> but after hours of waiting, I tried closing the other php.ini confg box... but the upgrade is standing still
[07:02] <waffles> flux-d: dur
[07:02] <Evanlec> Flux-D, was just about to make the same observation ;p
[07:02] <Flux-D> lol I guess some never learn
[07:02] <|_ocke> DisabledDuck, lame?
[07:03] <bro-man> I will try...
[07:03] <Jordan_U> DisabledDuck, If it also has Bluetooth that might actually be easier, I think that bluetooth communication with a phone actually has a semblance of a standard protocal
[07:03] <Jordan_U> DisabledDuck, What brand is the phone itself?
[07:04] <NewToLinux> Does anyone here use Chessmaster 10th with Wine .
[07:04] <Flynsarmy> GUIs cause cancer lol. Does anyone remember who said that on here yesterday?
[07:05] <Flux-D> So how do I find out what color is #39396666a3a3 ? :/
[07:05] <DisabledDuck> Jordan_U: LG enV
[07:05] <Agent_bob> NewToLinux xboard + gnuchess
[07:05] <ctop> disabledduck i think verizon wont let you sync via bluetooth. every verizon phone i had i couldnt use bluetooth to transfer
[07:05] <NewToLinux> Agent_bob: Yes I liked it but I sort of liked the tutorials and rating system in the other one
[07:05] <bro-man> Jordan_U, it won't control+c
[07:06] <ctop> try cedega newtolinux
[07:06] <Madpilot> Flux-D, that's a colour? Too long for hexidecimal
[07:06] <DisabledDuck> oh well, i'll just pop out the microSD card to get music and pics onto it
[07:06] <Jordan_U> DisabledDuck, Looks like a package called "bitpim" might be what you are looking for
[07:06] <NewToLinux> Isnt that a subscription based service?
[07:06] <ctop> no
[07:06] <Flux-D> Madpilot: its a primary_color from gconf editor
[07:06] <NewToLinux> ctop: its free?
[07:06] <Agent_bob> NewToLinux hmmm ok.   i don't do windows tho.   EULA and all that you know...
[07:07] <ctop> not free
[07:07] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Do you have a middle click? ( ctrl c by the way kills programs in a terminal so be careful using it )
[07:07] <NewToLinux> Agent_bob: I understand :D
[07:07] <Madpilot> Flux-D, fun. no idea what notation that is
[07:07] <bmt2> hello to all
[07:07] <ctop> free if you want it to be :-)
[07:07] <DisabledDuck> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:07] <bmt2> is there a keyboard shortcut that will start a terminal session ?
[07:07] <scragar> alt+F2
[07:07] <bmt2> scragar: thaks
[07:07] <Flux-D> Yea verizon blocks a lot of stuff to buy their oline services
[07:07] <Boogedy> gday
[07:07] <NewToLinux> ctop: Weird I thought I saw a 5$ subscription fee on it :D
[07:07] <bmt2> thanks
[07:08] <bmt2> alt+f2 says 'run application'
[07:08] <ctop> maybe.. i refuse to pay for anything involving linux
[07:08] <bmt2> i want a keyboard shortcut that will instantly start a termainl session
[07:08] <warbler> bmt2: it is cntrl-alt F2
[07:08] <zgmf-x20a> woah evolutions format of management of contacts is atrocious....
[07:08] <zgmf-x20a> looks like its on to kontact
[07:09] <Jordan_U> bmt2, To get back ctrl+alt+F7
[07:09] <bro-man> Jordan_U, uh-ohh.... I have 2 new prompts... am I screwed? email a screenshot to you ?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> warbler, Don't tell anyone how to get to a tty without telling them how to get back
[07:09] <warbler> k
[07:09] <bmt2> warbler: thanks
[07:09] <ghost> word
[07:09] <bmt2> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:09] <ghost> anyone here program python?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> ghost, Some, but you probably want #python
[07:10] <ghost> word
[07:10] <bmt2> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:10] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Use flickr or imagebucket or something
[07:10] <scragar> bmt2: from system>preferences Keyboard shortcuts you may define your own shortcut to open a terminal
[07:10] <Jordan_U> bmt2, np
[07:10]  * ghost laughs
[07:10] <bro-man> ok
[07:10] <usrl> Ah, I think I finally got everything working. It's not perfect, but it's about as perfect as it's going to get without me getting better at graphic design :3
[07:10] <ghost> hahahhaha
[07:10] <ghost> I havent used IRC in forever
[07:10] <usrl> Thanks to the people in here that helped
[07:10] <ghost> I love it
[07:10] <bmt2> scragar: thanks...that is what i needed to hear
[07:11] <jaco> does anyone no of a "windows media player" for linux that plays all auidio and dvd/video?
[07:11] <ghost> Any advice on getting hibernate and suspend to work in Ubuntu
[07:11] <ghost> VLC
[07:11] <ghost> VLC is the best jaco
[07:11] <warbler> I second vlc
[07:11] <Jordan_U> jaco, VLC + libdvdcss
[07:11] <scragar> doesn't play everything, but yeah, best bet on playing anything
[07:11] <Flux-D> u need libdvdcss to play on dvds?
[07:11] <jaco> thanks ill try it
[07:12] <Flux-D> I mean on VLC
[07:12] <usrl> ok, one small question. How do I make root windows use the same graphic settings as regular ones?
[07:12] <ghost> What Whatdoes VLC not play?
[07:12] <arnducky> Flux-D, only copy protected ones
[07:12] <scragar> ghost: real media files for one
[07:12] <arnducky> !restricted | Flux-D
[07:12] <ubotu> Flux-D: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <bmt2> how do i rip DVDs using ubuntu
[07:12] <bmt2> is it a long process ?
[07:12] <bro-man>  Jordan_U, ... btw... what does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do?
[07:12] <ghost> wine and dvd shring
[07:12] <Flux-D> bmt2: theres a dvd:rip package
[07:12] <ghost> If you making backups that is =)
[07:13] <ghost> dvd rip only grabs avi's though, doesnt it?
[07:13] <bmt2> Flux-D: how do i apt-get it
[07:13] <scragar> bmt2: there's a dvdshrink available for linux, don't use the wine version if it can be helped
[07:13] <Flux-D> !dvd:rip
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd:rip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <Flux-D> !dvdrip
[07:13] <ghost> bmt2, wine and dvdshrink is your best bet
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <usrl> Is there seriously no way to remove gnome-btdownload without uninstalling Ubuntu? ><
[07:13] <ghost> google dvdshrink for linux
[07:13] <squidink> I want to run a particular script when I plug in a particular USB drive. Where abouts would I start looking to set this up?
[07:13] <Flux-D> usrl: remove it from menu :)
[07:13] <bmt2> ghost: so i use dvdshrink to rip and maybe k3b to burn ?
[07:13] <warbler> !ffmpeg
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <scragar> system>?preferences>removeable drives and media
[07:14] <usrl> Flux-D: But deep down, I'll know it's still there. It will haunt me ;_;
[07:14] <ghost> You can use whatever to burn, dvdshrink will create as iso and turn a dual layer dvd into a single layer
[07:14] <Flux-D> usrl: I tried to but failed :(
[07:14] <bmt2> thanks to all....
[07:14] <Flux-D> bmt2: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
[07:15] <ghost> sorry, but dvd::rip sucks, except for ripping avi's
[07:15] <intelikey> what about  dd ?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> bro-man, It configures any packages which are in the state of not being configured, apt uses dpkg, so basically it just tells dpkg what packages need to be added or removed, apt has already downloaded all of the packages that need to be installed, and has told dpkg that they are not yet configured, so if apt quits ( also quitting dpkg ) it *probably* wont be any different telling dpkg to just continue configuring than if apt
[07:16] <Jordan_U>  had not quit
[07:17] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Put the screenshot here http://imageshack.us/
[07:20] <bloony> How can I set pidgin to automaticaly join the #ubuntu channel?
[07:21] <scragar> add the chat, then right click and auto join
[07:21] <jaco> how do you remove icons from menus?
[07:21] <NewToLinux> ctop: I must be looking in the wrong place btu is there a free version of cedega?
[07:22] <bloony> scragar: hum.. right click where.. ?
[07:22] <scragar> on the chat in the buddies window once you have added it
[07:22] <bloony> scragar: when I joined I just typed /j
[07:22] <scragar> you will need to add it to the buddies list first
[07:22] <jaco> how do you remove icons from menus???
[07:22] <NewToLinux> Heres the URL I found http://www.transgaming.com/products/cedega/6.0/ and it requires payment
[07:22] <bloony> kk
[07:23] <scragar> Buddies > add chat
[07:24] <jaco> is there any way to remove icons from the applications menu in ubuntu??
[07:24] <defrysk> jaco, rightclick the ubuntu start menu and select edit menus and start editing them as you please
[07:24] <jaco> thank you so much
[07:24] <bloony> scragar: aah sweet.. hum.. and how can I make it msg the identify command automaticaly?
[07:25] <scragar> bloony: I assume that you'd need to add a "bouce" to do this for you
[07:25] <defrysk> jaco, and next time don't ask your question 3 times within a minute please
[07:25] <Cyber_Stalker> !smtp
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Cyber_Stalker> grrr
[07:25] <warbler> newToLinux: look at this and see if it helps - http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3617175/Transgaming_Cedega-5.2.10_Full
[07:25] <bloony> scragar: hum.. and wheres that ? :p
[07:26] <warbler> NewTolinux: see above
[07:26] <jaco> defysk: sry man just thought i neede to...but thanks
[07:26] <Cyber_Stalker> any one know of any smtp servers?
[07:26] <Cyber_Stalker> :P
[07:26] <linxuz3r> is there a way to know what packages were installed with synaptics with in this day?
[07:26] <Cyber_Stalker> i need a nice daemon that DOESNT appened my IP to the end of the mail
[07:26] <scragar> bloony: you can't add pouces to chats in 7.10, sorry.(could in GAIM for 6.06 though)
[07:26] <Flux-D> Cyber_Stalker: I tihnk gmail?? does
[07:27] <bloony> scragar: aah.. pouces.. there is a buddy pouces in tools..
[07:27] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm i saw some shiznit as to how to use gmail as your smtp server
[07:27] <NewToLinux> warbler is this supposed to be free? I definitely dont want a debate over ethics but are they allowed to charge for it?
[07:28] <scragar> NewToLinux: it is free, however you must pay for the subscription
[07:28] <Cyber_Stalker> Flux-D: through Thunderbird from you@example.com Update: Google rewrites the from address to your Gmail address.. Here's how to set it up:
[07:28] <warbler> NewToLinux: it is a torrent of the program - don't use it myself so can't comment further...
[07:29] <NewToLinux> Thank you scragar, warbler and ctop Will check it out
[07:29] <linxuz3r> is there a way to know what packages were installed with synaptics with in this day?
[07:29] <warbler> k
[07:29] <ctop> np
[07:29] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, Cediga is not licensed with an OSI compatible license, it is not Free software
[07:29] <sumigamer> if I upgrade from feisty to gutsy, does anyone know how much data will be downloaded?? ( i am really short on bandwidth here, and I cant wait to get gutsy)
[07:30] <warbler> linxuz3r: there will be a time and date stamp on all progs you can search for
[07:30] <Agent_bob> sumigamer about 2g
[07:30] <NewToLinux> Understood jordan_u :) Thansk for clearing that
[07:30] <Agent_bob> error.   playmidi: No playback device found.
[07:30] <Jordan_U> sumigamer, It will tell you in time to back out :)
[07:31] <Agent_bob> anyone want to trubble shoot that ?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, np :)
[07:31] <sumigamer> thats huge....I'd rather download the CD............
[07:32] <linxuz3r> warbler, how do i search for the time and date stamp
[07:32] <warbler> Agent_bob: looks like a driver not installed
[07:32] <Jordan_U> sumigamer, It's no more than the install CD + all of the applications that you currently have installed that you will have to re-install
[07:33] <Agent_bob> warbler does a sound card need a special module for the midi emulation ?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> sumigamer, In fact it's probably the slightest bit less :)
[07:33] <Agent_bob> i thought that  timidity  was supposed to fix that.
[07:33] <warbler> linxuz3r: the only way I've done it is to add a search icon to the panel by right clicking the panel and adding to panel search
[07:34] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Still there?
[07:34] <sumigamer> well, I will have to check that out, then.......but right now i am on opensuse, and I am not liking it..
[07:34] <bro-man> yes... just uploaded pic to new acct...
[07:34] <Jordan_U> bro-man, I need the link
[07:35] <bro-man> coming...
[07:35] <smmagic> Can someone help me quick?
[07:35] <warbler> Agent_bob: I've never had to explore that 'cause I don't use midi but it seems that if your card will do midi then it needs the drivers for that - best I can do
[07:35] <scragar> when searching the Deskbar Applet(the new seach thing) for "syn" it lists synaptic twice, why?
[07:35] <scragar> smmagic: what's the problem?
[07:35] <Jordan_U> bro-man, You should also file a bug report
[07:36] <smmagic> when I place my parted magic cd, it boots fine and I have hda2 and hda3 are filesystems
[07:36] <smmagic> I only have one os (ubuntu) installed and I need to increase the size of it
[07:36] <smmagic> How can I tell which is ubuntu
[07:36] <bro-man> Jordan_U, http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/GABRIEL778/
[07:36] <confuzed> can someone help me understand how gnome icon's work.  I need to be able to refer the the user's current theme's  cdrom icon
[07:36] <riaal> anyone know how to make rtorrent not hash all files when opened ?
[07:36] <bro-man> I will
[07:36] <ppcguy> smmagic. hda2. 3 is talking of partitions not installed os
[07:37] <smmagic> So I can delete hda3 and increase hda2?
[07:37] <warbler> linxuz3r: then click the search icon and then " select more options "
[07:37] <Agent_bob> warbler actually it seems that if your card can do midi then you don't need the freepats or the timidity package  ....     so seeing that it is emulated i would think that the kernel would be free from responsibility there.
[07:37] <ppcguy> if you did a default install you swap partition is most likey hda2 with your user partition being hda3. if you delete 3 you will delete you os
[07:38] <Jordan_U> bro-man, It looks like you killed apt when you pressed ctrl+c, I guess I should have warned you :( I am not 100% sure though
[07:38] <smmagic> So..I can't delete either?
[07:38]  * chalcedony smiles
[07:38] <scragar> smmagic: better check which one is your OS first, run "cat /etc/fstab" and look for the one that's listed as "/" in the second column
[07:39] <chalcedony> where would i look for Linux compatible laptops ?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> bro-man, What is the output of "pgrep apt-get" and "pgrep dpkg" ?
[07:39] <ppcguy> you can resize if you have the space. But I would not recommend deleting either
[07:39] <NewToLinux> Are there AptOnCD  packages I could download. I think that sounds weird but I hear that using AptOnCD you could make backups of the stuff you downloaded . I use an AMD 64 Install
[07:39] <ppcguy> and follow scragar's advice
[07:39] <smmagic> /dev/sda3
[07:39] <Jordan_U> chalcedony, http://dell.com/ubuntu
[07:39] <smmagic> Or should I pastebin it?
[07:39] <ppcguy> lenovo, dell have laptops w/ linux installed if that is what you are looking for
[07:39] <chalcedony> Jordan_U: if i didn't want a dell ?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> chalcedony, Also system76 and some others
[07:39] <warbler> Agent_bob: " playmidi : no playback device found " suggests a card that doesn't support midi or no appropriate driver to me - can't help further - sorry
[07:39] <bro-man> Jordan_U, enter and report this now?
[07:39] <chalcedony> okies ty Jordan_U :))
[07:40] <qwerty121> how can i remove the icons of mounted filesystems from the desktop?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Yes, in another terminal
[07:40] <scragar> smmagic: by the sounds of it it's the 3rd partition. better resize than delete normaly though
[07:40] <smmagic> I have no free spce
[07:40] <ppcguy> how big is the hd? smmagic?
[07:40] <smmagic> *mutters* 20gb *mutters*
[07:41] <Cyber_Stalker> !info postfi
[07:41] <ubotu> Package postfi does not exist in gutsy
[07:41] <Cyber_Stalker> !info postfix
[07:41] <ubotu> postfix: High-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.5-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1092 kB, installed size 2528 kB
[07:41] <Agent_bob> chalcedony call me biased, but i would sujest that you avoid "ati" chip sets,  for another year anyway.
[07:42] <chalcedony> Agent_bob: i appreciate that suggestion too :)
[07:42] <scragar> smmagic: big enough. you should have a few partitions right?(swap and a another 1 or 2).
[07:42] <Agent_bob> laptops and ati chips   don't play nice with linux     imo     but others may have other openions.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> chalcedony, If you don't need a beast for a graphics card intel provides great Open Source drivers for their GPU's, and I believe all of their wireless cards but I am not sure about that
[07:42] <smmagic> For some reasons I have 2 swaps
[07:43] <scragar> smmagic: one will just be a size increase, don't worry about it too much
[07:43] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Any output?
[07:43] <scragar> smmagic: unless it's a significant size anyway.
[07:43] <smmagic> Because I only have 5.2gb free space
[07:43] <bro-man> not on the first one...
[07:44] <Lobinho> hi all
[07:44] <NewToLinux> Does installing more programs on ubuntu make it slower? (Knows that might be a silly question but I just had to ask). I thinking of downloading the stuff for VLC, XINE, XMMS , Opera , Java  and Flash
[07:44] <Agent_bob> i haven't used swap on a deskop or server in years now.
[07:44] <confuzed> NewToLinux, No
[07:44] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, Not any of those programs, no
[07:45] <NewToLinux> What about Wine and Qemu
[07:45] <bro-man> Jordan_U, vapors@vapors-desktop:~$ pgrep apt-get
[07:45] <bro-man> vapors@vapors-desktop:~$ pgrep dpkg
[07:45] <bro-man> 10699
[07:45] <bro-man> vapors@vapors-desktop:~$
[07:45] <Flynsarmy> Jordan_U: Will it get slower over time like windows does?
[07:45] <NewToLinux> I do have 2Gb mem and a AMD 4400
[07:45] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, Some packages have daemons but things that are just applications don't do anything but take up HD space when not in use :)
[07:45] <confuzed> NewToLinux, depending on the file system used, installing apps can increase drive fragmentation, but the effect will be minimal in most cases
[07:45] <orkungunay> hello everybody
[07:45] <Lobinho> can anyone help regarding running utorrent in wine? it'll run, and shows up in the notification area, but i can't seem to get a window to display...
[07:45] <NewToLinux> Flynsarmy: Exactly the correct question I wanted to ask
[07:46] <Doomguy0505> Does anybody know why audacity, gmanview and gmanedit not use the GTK theme?
[07:46] <pwnguin> got a question about sound -- the audio preferences stuff seems to crash when i try to set up the mic
[07:46] <ctop> lobinho use something native to linux
[07:46] <orkungunay> can i uninstall a package via console with using sudo dpkg -i "programname" right or wrong ?
[07:46] <confuzed> NewToLinux, It is highly dependant upon how you use the system
[07:46] <Jordan_U> bro-man, So dpkg is still running, which means that if you wait the same amount of time it would have taken to upgrade it will probably finish and quit, I'm not sure what update-manager will do at that point though
[07:46] <Flynsarmy> orkungunay: sudo apt-get purge <package> works doesn't it?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> Flynsarmy who knows,  no one ever leaves a linux installation alone long enough to find out   "gotta upgrade asap ya know"
[07:47] <crdlb> Flynsarmy: you're mixing apt-get and aptitude
[07:47] <Garbage> hello guys...
[07:47] <crdlb> it's apt-get remove (optionally adding --purge)
[07:47] <confuzed> NewToLinux, If you constantly install, use, and remove applications, use custom icons all over the place, and such, then yes you will begin to see some slowdowns... though it's not as bad as windows.
[07:47] <NewToLinux> Im guessing installing the other Window managers like KDE will slwo the performance down a bit?
[07:47] <orkungunay> crdlb, Flynsarmy  thanks i'll do it
[07:47] <Lobinho> ctop: can you recommend a linux-native torrent client? i've tried a couple and generally been dissatisfied w/ features...
[07:47] <NewToLinux> Ty confuzed I wanted to try custom icons but after seeing the file pack sizes I stopped :D
[07:48] <crdlb> Lobinho: I love rtorrent, but it's terminal-based
[07:48] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, Not installing window managers, but desktop environments possibly
[07:48] <confuzed> NewToLinux, not really... please understand that applications are just files, like anything else... it's not until they are invoked that slowdowns occur.
[07:48] <crdlb> I run it in screen so I can connect to it anywhere
[07:48] <scragar> NewToLinux: marginaly when in use yes, but if not in use then they will have the same effect on speed as everything else, near none
[07:48] <Varka> Lobinho: have a look at deluge
[07:48] <confuzed> NewToLinux, windows suffers from registry bloat, and the biggest cause of slowdowns is malware
[07:48] <bro-man> Jordan_U,  it has passed the time all-togther...
[07:49] <NewToLinux> Jordan_U: Could you please explain the Desktop Environment bit? Im pretty new , what Is a desktop environment?
[07:49] <Frogzoo> NewToLinux: what cpu are we talking here?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> NewToLinux, KDE is a desktop environment and I think installing it *may* make some daemons start at boot even if you log into Gnome, something like Compiz, Fulxbox, or icewm won't though
[07:49] <NewToLinux> AMD64 4400
[07:49] <Jordan_U> bro-man, How long?
[07:49] <crdlb> orkungunay: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:49] <Frogzoo> NewToLinux: you can enable all the bells/whistles you like - you won't notice any speed difference
[07:49] <Lobinho> rtorrent, deluge, ok thanks.  will look into it.
[07:50] <bro-man> Jordan_U, by about 4 hours...
[07:50] <NewToLinux> Ty Im kind of ascared of enabling COmpiz cause I see quite a few have problems with it. Im using an Onboard 6150
[07:50] <Agent_bob> NewToLinux simple way to think of a "desktop environment" is that it's the structure that allows you to move windows around and click on things and have menus come up
[07:50] <confuzed> NewToLinux, I run Gnome/KDE/XFCE on a p3 system with 512mb of ram and never noticed any significant issues with it.
[07:50] <Jordan_U> bro-man, OK... I have an idea which may or not be a good one...
[07:50] <NewToLinux> lol thats reassuring confuzed
[07:51] <Frogzoo> NewToLinux: compiz isn't that hard on a vid card, it's not doing that much really
[07:51] <NewToLinux> Thanks Agent_bob that explains :D
[07:51] <Varka> Lobinho: most featured but bloated and resourceeating would be azureus, but i bet you've already had that one. ;)
[07:51] <bro-man> Jordan_U,  <really trying to grin and bear it>
[07:51] <orkungunay> i have a trouble with using dillo... it starts in the smallest frame and at and if i resize window, doesn't change in site's frames.. thats all be smallest view,does anybody knows anyting ?
[07:52] <ppcguy> orkungunay. Why are you using dillo?
[07:52] <confuzed> can someone help me understand how gnome icon's work.  I need to be able to refer the the user's current theme's  cdrom icon
[07:52] <Agent_bob> confuzed and NewToLinux i was running kde on a p1mmx 100mhz with 96m ram and no swap.    worked ok for me.
[07:52] <orkungunay> ppcguy, heueheu it is small and fast
[07:52] <Agent_bob> just so you know that linux isnt a hog
[07:52] <NewToLinux> Im just scared of some of the threads Ive seen about nVidia Restricted drivers being used with Compiz cause random lockups and display problems
[07:52] <ppcguy> well that I can understand to a point.. But it is very limited
[07:52] <lkthomas> hey guys
[07:52] <NewToLinux> ON an AMD64 install
[07:52] <confuzed> Agent_bob, ugh... sorry
[07:52] <lkthomas> I don't understand why AMD64 installation disc are booting so slow ?
[07:52] <DWonderly> question, I have a USB Harddrive that i'm trying to mount. I found it in the Devices and it's labled as usb raw... how do I mount it?
[07:53] <NewToLinux> Hmm maybe I should dig out an old 433 celeron I have :D
[07:53] <linxuz3r> what is a make file
[07:53] <Doomguy0505> how do i theme old gtk applications?
[07:53] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Save all of this conversation BTW for the bug report because the fact that you accidentally quit apt and that I am going to tell you how to purposefully introduce an error will be important
[07:53] <bro-man> Jordan_U, I am at the mercy of this situation... I am open to any idea...
[07:53] <orkungunay> ppcguy, don't u prefer using dillo ?_
[07:53] <confuzed> DWonderly, is there a disk in it?
[07:53] <confuzed> DWonderly, oops... it's a hdd
[07:53] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Also keep the screen shot
[07:53] <bro-man> Jordan_U, ... clear.
[07:53] <lkthomas> guys
[07:54] <lkthomas> if I have core2duo, should I install amd64 version of ubuntu ?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Here goes... At the prompt within update-manager run "set -e"
[07:54] <mrak> hello
[07:54] <DWonderly> confuzed <G> yeah, It's reads as a Maxtor 3200 but, it only lists as usb raw.
[07:54] <ppcguy> linxuz3r it is a file that you execute from the director of a promgram you have downloaded to create an install and usable version of the program for your computer
[07:54] <Flynsarmy> aMSN apparently stores webcam logs. where are they kept? i can't find where the convo logs ar ekept either
[07:54] <Agent_bob>          sujest ?   playmidi: No playback device found.
[07:54] <mrak> lkthomas: if is it 64bit version of procesor ... yes :)
[07:54] <Frogzoo> lkthomas: nope - stick with 32 bit is best
[07:55] <Frogzoo> mrak: no no no
[07:55] <confuzed> DWonderly, what file system is on the drive... anything?
[07:55] <lkthomas> mrak: did you try that ?
[07:55] <NewToLinux> Well Thanks GUys Im going to download some applications I need:D
[07:55] <yvonney> Hi...sorry to interpt  can anyone help a newbie register a nick the command doesn't work for me
[07:55] <mrak> lkthomas: yes i got it
[07:55] <lkthomas> Frogzoo: I don't have a choice, it can't map 4G RAM on 32bit system
[07:55] <Jordan_U> bro-man, Now after running set -e run "false", something will happen with update-manager and it will probably give you an error...
[07:55] <bro-man> Jordan_U, ... no response.
[07:55] <mrak> lkthomas: everythig looks good
[07:55] <lkthomas> mrak: I am booting the installation disc (amd64) , but it seems very slow
[07:55] <DWonderly> confuzed should be either FAT32 or NTFS
[07:56] <mrak> lkthomas: u can map 4gb on 32bit
[07:56] <bro-man> Jordan_U, ok... trying now.
[07:56] <lkthomas> mrak:
[07:56] <lkthomas> mrak: PAE does not work as expected
[07:56] <confuzed> DWonderly, on every system I've used, USB drives just work... however you could look at dmesg "tail dmesg" at the command line and see if you see any error sounding lines
[07:57] <DWonderly> confuzed, thanks. I'll abuse google too <G>
[07:57] <confuzed> DWonderly, you could also just try and mount it and see what happens "sudo mount /dev/usbraw /mnt"
[07:58] <Jordan_U> bro-man, The suspense is killing me :)
[07:58] <warbler> !ntfs
[07:58] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:58] <mrak> lkthomas: its bustle u know ;) but i think it works
[07:58] <bro-man> Jordan_U, it has resumed.... I saved screenshot, and should probable shut down anything but the upgrade asap. correct ???
[07:59] <NewToLinux> Hey I get the message some of the software cannot be authenticated . Doing this might allow a malicious user to take control. I got this from Synaptic on trying to install VLC for an AMD64 install should I be concerned?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> bro-man, It has resumed? That is certainly not what I was expecting
[07:59] <mrak> lkthomas: at company we have 32bit systems with 8gb ram
[07:59] <Frogzoo> NewToLinux: sudo apt-get update
[07:59] <Frogzoo> NewToLinux: & try again
[07:59] <NewToLinux> Oh ok thanks
[07:59] <warbler> DWonderly: if it is ntfs you might need to download ntfs-3g
[07:59] <misc--> hello, how can I downgrade an application (Wine), is that possible?
[07:59] <ppcguy> the faq is there part way down the page
[08:00] <Jordan_U> bro-man, What does it say that it is doing currently?
[08:00] <DWonderly> warbler, I have that due to the other HDDs I've played with
[08:00] <mrak> misc--: apt-get install package=number of version
[08:00] <Agent_bob> NewToLinux any time someone mentions an   apt*  command   you will need to shutdown synaptic first.
[08:00] <warbler> DWonderly: just a thought
[08:00] <misc--> mrak: great thanks
[08:00] <DWonderly> dmesg is giving me I/O error out the wazoo
[08:00] <bro-man> Jordan_U, setup, clean ups, ...
[08:00] <Frogzoo> misc--: only uninstall & reinstall but you need the deb for the new version
[08:00] <Frogzoo> misc--: are you using the budgetdedicated repo?
[08:00] <lkthomas> mrak: did you got slow bootup on installation screen as well ?
[08:00] <lkthomas> mrak
[08:00] <Jordan_U> bro-man, I am not sure if that is a good thing...
[08:01] <misc--> Frogzoo: budgetdedicated repo? No...
[08:01] <confuzed> DWonderly, sound's like your problem then... hmm
[08:01] <NewToLinux> I just found that out Agent_bob the hard way
[08:01] <bro-man> BRB !
[08:01] <misc--> Frogzoo: just the standard ones plus an extra multimedia one
[08:01] <Frogzoo> !wine | misc--: don't use the ubuntu wine repo which is dated, use the budgetdedicated repo mentioned in the ubuntu wiki doc
[08:01] <ubotu> misc--: don't use the ubuntu wine repo which is dated, use the budgetdedicated repo mentioned in the ubuntu wiki doc: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:01] <Flynsarmy> Ubuntu has some serious network issues when resuming from hibernation
[08:01] <confuzed> DWonderly, what are the first messages after plugging in the USB cable?
[08:01] <mrak> lkthomas: yes it did .. but in function is going well
[08:01] <Jordan_U> bro-man, I guess I can't see how it would be bad either though....
[08:01] <DWonderly> confuzed. There are none
[08:02] <Frogzoo> misc--: the budgetdedicated is up to 0.9.47 or so
[08:02] <nila> according to this page:  http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link
[08:02] <nila> my wireless card (G510 version C2) is suppoted with Linux drivers
[08:02] <misc--> Frogzoo: ok thanks, I'll check that out. I'm running 0.9.46 currently but apparently there was a problem with 46/47 on Ubuntu. Having a problem displaying some windows in steam.
[08:02] <confuzed> DWonderly, there had to be something prior to all of the errors... do a full "dmesg" and scroll up to before the errors
[08:03] <Frogzoo> misc--: oh i see
[08:03] <inversekinetix> iujhik
[08:04] <DWonderly> confuzed: [19158.398822] usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[08:04] <DWonderly> [19158.451189] scsi 8:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[08:04] <warbler> nila: the link I gave you before said there were probs with those drivers and the best results were with the windows drivers - can't help further then that
[08:04] <DWonderly> repeats that a few times then starts with: [19162.035803] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[08:04] <DWonderly> [19162.035809] Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[08:04] <DWonderly> [19166.385752] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[08:05] <DWonderly> loops that about 30 times
[08:05] <misc--> Frogzoo: quick question - I can still use this package even though it says Fiesty?
[08:05] <misc--> Frogzoo: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[08:05] <confuzed> DWonderly, fd0... thats a floppy error
[08:05] <rkyraccoon55> i cant get gutsy to play dvdls?
[08:05] <lkthomas> guys
[08:05] <ppcguy> that's what we are all here for
[08:05] <Frogzoo> misc--: I wouldn't advise it, there should be a gutsy repo by now
[08:05] <misc--> Frogzoo: ok no probs
[08:05] <Jordan_U> !DVD | rkyraccoon55
[08:05] <ubotu> rkyraccoon55: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:05] <lkthomas> I am using amd64 iso to boot up, the screen screen hold on klogd for a long time until next screen shows up
[08:06] <lkthomas> anyone have idea why ?
[08:06] <inversekinetix> why the lag
[08:06] <Clearzen> rkyraccoon55: you need to install the package libdvdcss2
[08:06] <DWonderly> confuzed. It seems to try and load for modem drivers on the USB device
[08:06] <confuzed> DWonderly, first off... are we certain that the drive and cable are good... have you tested on another machine
[08:07] <frederick85> can I install JDK documentation with apt?
[08:07] <DWonderly> confuzed, DO'H! Bad USB Cord.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> frederick85, Yes
[08:07]  * DWonderly slaps self
[08:07] <DWonderly> Thanks though.
[08:07] <confuzed> DWonderly, good to hear.
[08:08] <frederick85> Jordan_U, I couldn't find a package name
[08:08] <confuzed> DWonderly, and don't beat yourself up... I've wasted most of my life missing the obvious!
[08:08] <NewToLinux> Why cant I download this andal32.exe file . I think its mscorettfont? Ive been trying all week and mythtv uses that. Well I think all Tv Apps use it
[08:09] <Jordan_U> frederick85, Well, sort of...
[08:09] <nila> warbler,  - sorry, didn't realise it was talking about with these drivers, thought it meant with inbuilt ones or something
[08:09] <frederick85> Jordan_U: there is a package that apparantly installs the documentation after i download it :P
[08:09] <Jordan_U> frederick85, read "apt-cache show sun-java6-doc "
[08:09] <confuzed> NewToLinux, are you installing it via apt?
[08:09] <Clearzen> NewToLinux: ummm, mythtv won't use .exe files as dependencies
[08:09] <confuzed> Clearzen, yes it does
[08:09] <NewToLinux> yes
[08:09] <Clearzen> confuzed: why?
[08:09] <frederick85> Jordan_U: tha'ts not the documentation though
[08:09] <confuzed> Clearzen, MS TTF's are required
[08:10] <Clearzen> confuzed: oh, that sucks
[08:10] <NewToLinux> Mythtv required it some time ago but I think I might have not unselected it in Synapt
[08:10] <confuzed> Clearzen, and the package downloads and extracts the ttf from the exe using cabextract
[08:10] <Clearzen> confuzed: makes sense
[08:10] <Jordan_U> frederick85, I guess the answer is no but at least it seems that the files will be known about and handled by apt / dpkg
[08:11] <tarmael> Hey all. I'm getting an error with Direct Rendoring.
[08:11] <confuzed> NewToLinux, so every time you run apt it tries to download the .exe file again?
[08:11] <warbler> nila: I don't use your card so I skimmed but was sure they said your better off with ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[08:11] <frederick85> Jordan_U: if I install it will i be able to read the Documentation with man pages or something?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> frederick85, I have no idea
[08:12] <Ben_Cs> hello
[08:12] <Ben_Cs> how do i know from CLI what's my resolution?
[08:13] <misc--> Frogzoo: Thankyou very much! That fixed the main problem I was having with Steam
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Ben_Cs, "xrandr"
[08:13] <patbam> can i remove minesweeper? please?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> misc--: nice
[08:14] <Ben_Cs> thnx
[08:14] <NewToLinux> Heres what I was talking about http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6091/screenshotyh8.png andal32.exe msttcorefonts
[08:15] <Frogzoo> patbam: add/remove programs
[08:15] <patbam> can i remove minesweeper? please?
[08:15] <scragar> patbam: if you want. it's under add and remove Applications from the Aplications menu in 7.10
[08:15] <intelikey> i went all through the wiki on midi   and according to that it should be working   there is no "if" contengent for when it doesn't "just work"    so anyone have any insight at all on this ?    playmidi: No playback device found.
[08:16] <confuzed> NewToLinux, and that happens all the time right?
[08:16] <NewToLinux> yes confuzed
[08:16] <scragar> patbam: it's part of a games package though, so your removing more than 1 game if you decide to get rid of it
[08:16] <NewToLinux> anything I download does that
[08:17] <NewToLinux> I believe its the reason my MythTv screen doesnt have its menu showing either I can use the arrow keys to select Imaginary options though :D
[08:17] <confuzed> NewToLinux, yea... I think that you have an old copy of the msttcore font package that is trying to install... I forget the apt command to cancel it... give me a second
[08:17] <NewToLinux> Ty confuzed
[08:18] <Jordan_U> bro-man, You back? I need to leave soon
[08:18] <chuy_max> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to redirect audio output to blue jack instead of green jack?
[08:19] <confuzed> NewToLinux, from a terminal window try running "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:19] <Wisteso> im guessing he means line-out
[08:19] <Jordan_U> chuy_max, Is the blue jack supposed to be an audio output on the hardware?
[08:19] <confuzed> NewToLinux, that should stop that from coming up again.
[08:20] <smmagic> Can someone help me get video streams working? I currently have totem-xine
[08:20] <[chr0n0s]> hi, anyone knows the command to switch off the wireless device, and start it again, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart won't do that, also sudo ifconfig up won't do that
[08:20] <chuy_max> Jordan_U, yup, where you connect speakers, do you know if it is possible?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> smmagic, In what way are they not working?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> chuy_max, It is
[08:20] <smmagic> They do not play
[08:20] <smmagic> If I right click and press play with movie player
[08:20] <Jordan_U> chuy_max, Not sure off hand how though :)
[08:20] <smmagic> It says no plugin able to handle .flv
[08:20] <chuy_max> Jordan_U, wooohooo
[08:21] <chuy_max> I will keep googling to see if I find a how to or something
[08:21] <Matthai> i have one questin... I hacve HP 1955 monitor, and unfortunately autodetected setting is 75 Hz refresh rate... it is not working, until I manually set 60 Hz... but I have to do it manually at each restart. Any help?
[08:21] <chuy_max> :)
[08:22] <Frogzoo> Matthai: include in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf specs for HorizSync & VertRefresh
[08:22] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Try totem-gstreamer ( I personally think it's better to have both a xine and a gstreamer app available, and while xine has gxine totem is the best for gstreamer )
[08:22] <Matthai> Section "Monitor"
[08:22] <Matthai> 	Identifier	"HP L1955"
[08:22] <Matthai> 	Option		"DPMS"
[08:22] <Matthai> 	HorizSync	30-83
[08:22] <Matthai> 	VertRefresh	56-76
[08:22] <Matthai> EndSection
[08:22] <Jordan_U> smmagic, And I know for a fact that it can play .flv :)
[08:22] <Frogzoo> Matthai: pastebin dude
[08:22] <NewToLinux> confuzed: I think the first command did it . Running the second one again trys to download the package andal32.exe
[08:23] <melz_> isd there a power manager app other than the one proveded with gnome that might work better?
[08:23] <Frogzoo> Matthai: you need to set those variables to what the monitor supports
[08:23] <Matthai> Frogzoo, http://pastebin.com/d556730e2
[08:23] <Matthai> Frogzoo, but I don't know the right values...
[08:24] <confuzed> NewToLinux, ok... what the second commmand is doing is telling it to reattempt the install of any failed packages.
[08:24] <Frogzoo> Matthai: but google does
[08:24] <NewToLinux> Oh ok
[08:24] <Varka> Matthai: these parameters are incorrect it should be 30-82 and 56-75 but i dont think this will solve your problem
[08:24] <NewToLinux> I think the site might just not be available
[08:25] <confuzed> NewToLinux, try doing this from the commandline "sudo apt-get clean" then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:25] <NewToLinux> Will try
[08:25] <_Johny> !it|_Johny
[08:26] <confuzed> NewToLinux, your right, the file/site is unavailable... but if that were the case, then everyone would have this problem and the package would be updated.
[08:27]  * spinoza_w gbdj
[08:27] <NewToLinux> First command no response from terminal hence assuming it was correct. Second sdame problem. Cant resolve the website
[08:27] <confuzed> NewToLinux, So either 1. there is something preventing you from accessing these sites (there are multiple sites it is attempting) or 2. the package that is trying to install is out of date or otherwise lists the wrong location for the sites.
[08:28] <[chr0n0s]> hi, i have 2 wireless networks at work, i want to set an order of preference of connecting to them, where do i definee those ?
[08:28] <NewToLinux> Oh I see :) Well its fine Im not using the Tv Programs since the tuner wont work it has a 7130 chipset
[08:28] <niina> Is there a devilspie channel on irc.freenode.com?
[08:29] <confuzed> NewToLinux, well I just tested the first site that it trys to download from... and the file is there.
[08:30] <confuzed> NewToLinux, something is wrong with your internet configuration.... perhaps your DNS... do you have any trouble getting the file by going to "http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe"
[08:30] <niina01> is there a devilspie channel on irc.freenode.net?
[08:30] <gregorovius> anybody knows of a program to sync a random subset of my music albums to a portable device?
[08:30] <confuzed> NewToLinux, your really should resolve this issue... at the very least it is slowing you down whenever you install software
[08:31] <NewToLinux> confuzed: Ive downloaded it 100+kb
[08:31] <[chr0n0s]> hi, i have 2 wireless networks at work, i want to set an order of preference of connecting to them, where do i definee those ?
[08:31] <tbf> how to spell "wrong focus" those days?
[08:31] <tbf> c - o - m - p - i - z
[08:31] <Cherry> good morning
[08:31] <tbf> compiz? broken
[08:32] <niina01> Can any1 tell em  program that lets me decide were a program should be placed the moment it starts up?
[08:32] <tbf> tty consoles? broken
[08:32] <tbf> monitor detection? broken
[08:32] <confuzed> Ok... so it's not your DNS resolver, or your internet connection... I assume you are using the same machine to test the url as your getting the error on correct?
[08:32] <tbf> dual head? broken
[08:32] <tbf> network manager? broken
[08:32]  * tbf starts to wonder what's not broken with gutsy
[08:32] <NewToLinux> yes that is correct
[08:32] <niina01> Can any1 tell em  program that lets me decide were a program should be placed the moment it starts up?
[08:33] <confuzed> NewToLinux,  hmm... why would the package fail to find the file, when we can get to it no problem from the browser... hmm
[08:33] <confuzed> NewToLinux, are you logged in as the same user at the terminal as you are in your gnome session?
[08:33] <NewToLinux> Yes
[08:33] <inversekinetix> how do you manually remove menu icons when its own editor doesnt work
[08:33] <NewToLinux> confuzed: Only one user
[08:34] <smmagic> Can someone help me get video streams working?
[08:34] <confuzed> Do me a favor... just for kicks, try this "sudo wget http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/corefonts/andale32.exe"
[08:35] <tbf> wasted half an hour with restoring my X server just cause i was so gutsy to restore attach a second monitor to this crap os
[08:35] <tbf> which year do we have? 1998?
[08:35] <confuzed> NewToLinux, the above command will try and download it as root... I wonder if root is somehow being blocked
[08:35] <NewToLinux> Yup that worked
[08:35] <confuzed> NewToLinux, this is really odd
[08:36] <NewToLinux> 194K Application/Octet-stream
[08:36] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Did you try totem-gstreamer?
[08:36] <confuzed> NewToLinux, only other thing I can imagine is that the location it is downloading to is not writable by root
[08:37] <NewToLinux> Thers a quite a few others who have the same question on the net
[08:37] <NewToLinux> Most of them say that the site is not avilable though. But being able to download it with the wget command is weird
[08:38] <smmagic> Jordan_U: yes
[08:38] <NewToLinux> can I put this file in the place where Ubuntu downloads the files and then trick it into think that it downloaded it?
[08:38] <confuzed> NewToLinux, yeah the install script uses wget I believe... I'm guessing it timesout when it can't write to the destination.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> smmagic, And it didn't work even when right clicking and choosing "open with totem" ?
[08:38] <smmagic> Yes
[08:38] <confuzed> NewToLinux, I'm trying to figure out where it goes
[08:38] <[chr0n0s]> hi, i have 2 wireless networks at work, i want to set an order of preference of connecting to them, where do i define the rules ?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> smmagic, unpossible!
[08:39] <smmagic> Let me get error again
[08:39] <Jordan_U> smmagic, Can you give a link to the movie?
[08:39] <smmagic> ffdemux_swf: Element doesn't implement handling of this stream. Please file a bug.
[08:39] <smmagic> http://allabout-sp.net/?p=season11/1112
[08:41] <Jordan_U> smmagic, I guess you should file a bug against ffmpeg :)
[08:41] <smmagic> ..bugs..
[08:41] <jaco> when i want to join a chatroom with pidgin i type the room name and click join, but nothing happens??
[08:41] <smmagic> Way too lazy
[08:41] <warbler> [chr0nos]: in applications - system - admin - network - there is a setting called location - that will let you choose options for connections
[08:42] <confuzed> NewToLinux, "ls -al /var/lib/msttcorefonts"
[08:43] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: call one wor and the other home - or whatever you like
[08:43] <warbler> *work
[08:43] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, one is CMI, other is Office, and i am gettting boh at same place
[08:44] <[chr0n0s]> i want to select office, but it connects to CMI which gives weaker signal
[08:44] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, i want to change the default order
[08:44] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: do you see "location" at the top of the network program?
[08:45] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, what network program ?
[08:45] <alecwh> For some reason, whenever I open Rhythmbox, and click the volume up button on top of my keyboard (Dell Latitude D630), my whole sysstem freezes for about 30 seconds. Is there a fix for this bug?
[08:45] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: applications-system-admin-network
[08:46] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: set one up as ... and the other as ::::
[08:46] <jaco> when i want to join a chatroom with pidgin i type the room name and click join, but nothing happens??
[08:47] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: give "location a name before you set each up
[08:47] <NeoTubNinja> im new to pidgin or id try to help you out
[08:47] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, yeah i can see that, but there is nothing in the drop down menu and both networks are at same place
[08:47] <scragar> jaco: try: /j roomname
[08:47] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, i want my network card to first try Office network, and then CMI network
[08:48] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: type a name then set each up
[08:48] <inverse> how do you know what love is?
[08:48] <jaco> scrager; dont understand?
[08:48] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, apparently those are 2 wireless routers connected to same network and placed such that i get signal from both
[08:49] <jaco> scrager: where do i type that
[08:49] <scragar> jaco: in the normal chat box.
[08:49] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: don't know about that - do you have two cards?
[08:50] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, let me explain the question again
[08:50] <jaco> scrager: but i want to  chat using pidgin
[08:50] <warbler> k
[08:51] <jaco> how do you join a room like this using pidgin? im using Xchat now?
[08:51] <scragar> jaco: add your IRC account
[08:52] <scragar> jaco: then either add the room as a buddie from the Buddies menu, or in a chanserver etc window type: /j roomname
[08:52] <brade1> hi
[08:52] <brade1> im a windows user and im using ubuntu with windows
[08:52] <jaco> sry im begginer.  how do add your IRC account?
[08:52] <NeoTubNinja> yorue not the only one
[08:52] <scragar> jaco: Accounts > add acount
[08:53] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, i have 2 wireless routers on same network placed somehow such that i get signal from both on my laptop, i want to define the order they are connected, like as of now laptop tries to connect to CMI first then to Office, but i want it to do opposite, how can that be done!
[08:53] <brade1> im using ubuntu 7.10 under virtualbox and i am wondering how i can get all my music copied off windows and into ubuntu so i can play it through rhythmbox
[08:54] <Pierre> brade1: sharing the windows directory should be enough, no need to copy them
[08:54] <scragar> brade1: all your music in 1 folder or something?
[08:54] <Biju> confuzed: Got Disconnected
[08:54] <brade1> Pierre> how do i access the windows director??
[08:54] <brade1> scrager> yes its all in one folder
[08:54] <confuzed> Biju, not NewToLinux ?
[08:54] <burwaco> good morning everyone !
[08:55] <scragar> brade1: you will first need a libary to read NTFS file structures, open synaptic from System> Administration > Synaptic
[08:55] <brade1> scrager> ok
[08:55] <NewToLinu1> confuzed:  same person :)
[08:55] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, it doesn't matter.
[08:56] <scragar> brade1: then use the search for NTFS, one of them is something like ntfs9 - you need that
[08:56] <warbler> [chr0n0s]: I only know that you can set up in applications-system-network-location - each domain that you want to join - maybe ordering them with the location option will get you what you need - I have no experience setting the order for two different cards I'm sorry to say
[08:56] <[chr0n0s]> warbler, np, thanks :)
[08:56] <brade1> scrager> is it NTFS or ntfs9 i need??
[08:56] <warbler> k
[08:57] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, one more thing to try... "apt-get purge msttcorefonts"
[08:57] <scragar> brade1: it's called libntfs9
[08:57] <brade1> scragar> so i download and install that??
[08:57] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, er one more thing to try... "apt-get --purge remove msttcorefonts"
[08:57] <scragar> brade1: mark it for instillation, then click aply
[08:57] <brade1> scragar> ok will do thanks
[08:58] <doudou> Hello, I've difficulty to compile a usb->ethernet module with gutsy: may somebody indicate me the tools needed to such a work?
[08:58] <doudou> I can't do the "make menuconfig" commande: I receive an error message.
[08:58] <scragar> brade1: once it's done you'll have to mount your windows directory, go to places and disks, then right click on the drive and choose to mount it.
[08:58] <NewToLinu1> confuzed: interesting , its asking shall it remove MythTv as well
[08:58] <Pierre> brade1: don't you say you use ubunut in virtualbox running on windows?
[08:59] <brade1> Pierre> yes
[08:59] <NewToLinu1> The following packages will be REMOVED:  msttcorefonts* mythtv* mythtv-backend* mythtv-frontend*
[08:59] <NewToLinu1> Possibly all of them tied together?
[08:59] <Pierre> brade1: so no need of ntfs and co, only share the windows directory on the windows side. See the virtual box documentation about how to use them
[08:59] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, yeah it would
[08:59] <doudou> Am I on the right channel?
[08:59] <brade1> Pierre> ok
[09:00] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, mythtv depends on msttcorefonts
[09:00] <superm401> This is a stupid question, but why aren't I getting any apt updates?
[09:00] <NewToLinu1> Lol its trying to downoad them again . SHall I ctrl + C it . It cant find it
[09:00] <superm401> I am using the stock Gutsy/Gobuntu sources.list
[09:00] <confuzed> doudou, you are... what is the error
[09:01] <confuzed> NewToLinu1, it's trying to download them again... during a remove action?
[09:01] <brade1> Pierre> where in the documentations would i find that? and is the documentations on the virtualbox site?? (sorry, but because of who i am i need things to be explained to me)
[09:01] <doudou> Thank you confuzed
[09:02] <doudou> The problem is that when I come in /etc/src/linux..., I get a series of message errors when I try to access to the menuconfig with the make menuconfig command
[09:02] <superm401> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade has resulted in nothing, for days
[09:02] <bachstudies> i have a question about ubuntu firewalls. When Ubuntu setups up NTP support for time, does that mean that it automatically opens port number 123?
[09:02] <confuzed> NewToLinux, "ls -al /var/lib/msttcorefonts"
[09:02] <stillWithFiesty> would you guys have any suggestion on what application to use with ubuntu for converting dvd's into vcd format... i don't have a dvd burner so i need to convert dvd movies into vcd
[09:03] <superm401> Any thoughts on my update problem?
[09:03] <Pierre> brade1: alternative: go to #vbox
[09:03] <brade1> ok thanks
[09:03] <damaltor> hello eberybody
[09:03] <confuzed> doudou did you install the build-essentials package?
[09:04] <confuzed> doudou, er build-essential
[09:05] <doudou> They are installed by default
[09:05] <stillWithFiesty> any recommendation on dvd to vcd converter for ubuntu?
[09:05] <brade1> Pierre> is it easy to get help in #vbox or is it hard??
[09:05] <damaltor> i have the follwowing problem: i want to install Xubuntu onto an old (~650 mhz) COmputer. everything works fine, except for the SCSI devices (a cd writer and a tape streamer). both devices work correctly with knoppix and with damn small linux, as well as with other knoppix-based live-distros. is the scsi part missing in standard installation? eben in "expert"mode i didnt find anything real g
[09:05] <doudou> Please, what do you mean by "er"
[09:06] <damaltor> ood. what can i do?
[09:06] <superm401> stillWithFeisy, you can probably get something working with mencoder or ffmpeg.
[09:06] <Pierre> brade1: ask and wait, like always :)
[09:06] <brade1> Pierre> ok thanks :)
[09:06] <confuzed> doudou, not by default... though the source package may depend upon them... er simply that I am correcting myself...
[09:06] <stillWithFiesty> superm401: i see i'll check it out...
[09:07] <stillWithFiesty> any more suggestions for dvd to vcd conversion?
[09:07] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, one sec
[09:07] <doudou> Yes, it's build-essential and not build-essentials, it was clear for me
[09:07] <warbler> damaltor: what happens with the live cd is a good indication - have you tried it?
[09:08] <damaltor> well.. as i said, on a live cd it works perfectly
[09:08] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: thanks...
[09:09] <damaltor> warbler: but i dont know whats different, why are the scsi devices found in a pre-installed environment, but on a step-by-step installed, personal system, they are not found?
[09:09] <warbler> damaltor: then it should be fine - the live cd is a good indicator - that's why it is made
[09:09] <doudou> Just a while, I've to finish the new installation of ubuntu of the laptop (a PII, it shall need a while). I will check if It's installed but the problem is that I have no internet connexion with it: if build-essential is not on the cd, it will be tricky
[09:09] <damaltor> warbler: aaah now i know what you mean. it works correctly with knoppix based live cds, ist does NOT work with the xubuntu disc
[09:10] <warbler> damaltor: sorry - did you install it to hd and have trouble?
[09:10] <damaltor> warbler: yep. using DamnSmall or knoppix - no problems. using the xubuntu live system - scsi not found. installing xubuntu do hd - still not found
[09:11] <damaltor> DamnSmall is a knoppix based version, maybe this is the reason why it works so good.
[09:11] <antoine> good morning all
[09:11] <warbler> damaltor: the question - which xubuntu pls?
[09:11] <damaltor> good morning
[09:11] <damaltor> warbler: 7.10
[09:11] <damaltor> gutsy
[09:11] <Biju> Sigh Disconnected again
[09:12] <antoine> i've got a little problem with gutsy, can anybody help me?
[09:12] <damaltor> but tried with everything since etch
[09:12] <superm401> Again, does anyone have any idea why i wouldn't be getting updates?
[09:12] <damaltor> superm401: what does APT say?
[09:12] <superm401> What would you like me to run?
[09:12] <damaltor> open a condole
[09:12] <damaltor> console
[09:12] <superm401> Okay
[09:12] <[chr0n0s]> i can recieve 2 wireless connections on my laptop, how do i define a order for connecting to them ??
[09:12] <doudou> antoine: what is the matter?
[09:12] <warbler> damaltor: 7.10 is ahead of most - what is the hardware pls?
[09:13] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, sorry... I had a link for you... but I can't seem to find it... it's an app that was written especially for VCD
[09:13] <Davy_Jones> is there a configuration tool for tablet pens?
[09:13] <damaltor> superm401: type sudo apt-get update"
[09:13] <[chr0n0s]> i can receive 2 wireless connections on my laptop, how do i define an order for connecting to them ??
[09:13] <superm401> Right, it downloads the updates.
[09:13] <superm401> It just never thinks anything's changed.
[09:13] <damaltor> warbler: seems t be an old athlon, nothing special. 650 mhz, 320 mb ram
[09:13] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: it's supposed to convert dvd movies into vcd format so they can be burned into cds?
[09:13] <damaltor> superm401: did you tyoe that in?
[09:14] <superm401> yes, damaltor
[09:14] <damaltor> superm401: any errors?
[09:14] <superm401> damaltor: Nope.  It seemingly downloads fine.
[09:14] <warbler> damaltor: I run xubuntu feisty on amd 500mhz ok
[09:14] <antoine> doudou > i have 3 different problems that are maybe linked : first, when booting, i don't see the boot window any more (the one with nautilus etc...) ; second, when i try to log in, the letters are enormous and i don't see what i write ; and then, the title bars are enormous too
[09:14] <damaltor> warbler: with scsi?
[09:14] <phyburn> how would I go about getting to just a terminal and not a terminal in X
[09:14] <damaltor> superm401: ok. now type "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[09:14] <phyburn> I need to install a nvidia driver and it wants me out of X, and I keep trying to do ctlr alt delete but X keeps starting
[09:15] <superm401> damaltor: I always get: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:15] <antoine> i can fix the title bar problem by desactivating the windows effects
[09:15] <superm401> That's the problem.
[09:15] <warbler> damaltor: it recognizes ide as scsi - maybe there is an issue...
[09:15] <Pierre> phyburn: ctrl - alt - f1 sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:15] <damaltor> SuperLag: well... your system is up to date. congrats..
[09:15] <damaltor> oh sorry SuperLag
[09:15] <Pierre> phyburn: press "ctrl - alt - f1", login, and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" :)
[09:15] <damaltor> superm401: well... your system is up to date. congrats..
[09:16] <superm401> damaltor: No, it's not.
[09:16] <doudou> antoine: it's probably a problem of resolution
[09:16] <damaltor> superm401: why do you think so?
[09:16] <superm401> If I compare to the packages in UWN, it's missing a lot.
[09:16] <damaltor> superm401: e.g.?
[09:16] <doudou> antoine: if you try to move the mouse on the corner of the screen, does it move the whole screen?
[09:16] <superm401> For instance, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/2007-October/009972.html says kdesudo is now kdesudo 1.1-0ubuntu2.1
[09:16] <superm401> But I still have 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2
[09:16] <antoine> doudou : yes
[09:16] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, yep.. it even rips dvd before it converts to vcd format for you if you want
[09:17] <confuzed> I just read about it today... thought I bookmarked it but I don't see it
[09:17] <inflex-> YAY... upgraded from 7.04 -> 7.10 and now my wireless won't work :(
[09:17] <antoine> doudou : what do you mean by "move the whole screen"?
[09:17] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: oh men... that's exactly what i need... i'll try to google for something and post back.. maybe it'll ring a bell
[09:17] <ssokolow> Is usplash inherently limited to 256-color graphics or is that just the default framebuffer video mode in Ubuntu?
[09:17] <damaltor> superm401: please post the file /etc/apt/sources.lst to http://nopaste.com/
[09:17] <doudou> Then go in System>Scren resolution and try to choose the right resolution for your screen. May you tell me what is you graphic card and your screen (size and resolution)?
[09:18] <antoine> sure
[09:18] <damaltor> warbler: does the pc u use have scsi? everything else works well for me too, though
[09:18] <superm401> damaltor, http://nopaste.com/p/aegZrgcIS
[09:19] <antoine> resolution : 1280*800, intel 915, driver : intel experimental driver
[09:19] <doudou> antoine: where do you find this information
[09:19] <Angelica> #metal
[09:20] <damaltor> superm401: in the last two blocks of lines, try to uncemment the last two lines of each (there is ONE # in each line to remove. leave the lines with two #!).
[09:20] <warbler> damaltor: nope - nothing for that omp is scsi - there were questions earlier why the OS sees ide as scsi - no resolution though...
[09:20] <antoine> system>administration>screens and ...
[09:20] <warbler> *comp
[09:20] <damaltor> warbler: thats bad. but thank you though
[09:20] <warbler> k
[09:20] <doudou> Anoine: OK, try to click on the Resolution button and look if there is not a higher resolution proposed
[09:20] <damaltor> superm401: you will need su rights for this
[09:21] <antoine> doudou : no, that's the bigger resolution
[09:21] <superm401> damaltor, I don't have any packages installed from multiverse.
[09:21] <doudou> antoine: may you give me the brand and model of your screen?
[09:21] <superm401> I did it anyway, and there were still no upgrades.
[09:21] <damaltor> superm401: well, maybe you can get some updaten from the backports though. are you sure with that you dont have multiverse packs?
[09:22] <antoine> doudou : well, i'm on a laptop, so it's just a plug'n'play i guess
[09:22] <killahb> is there a way to turn off generation of thumbs.db while keeping thumbnails turned on?  similar to the 'do not cache thumbnails' in xp?
[09:22] <infidel_> !compiz
[09:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:22] <[chr0n0s]> i can receive 2 wireless connections on my laptop, how do i define an order for connecting to them ??
[09:22] <superm401> I'm sure, and the packages I know have changed (but I don't have) like adept, kdelibs, etc. definitely aren't in multiverse.
[09:23] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, still there?
[09:23] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: yep..
[09:23] <damaltor> superm401: ok. well, then i dont really know. as long as there are no real BIG changes, i would consider ignoring it. maybe, the updates are being testet first, before being put into the updatabe repos.
[09:23] <superm401> Anyway, thanks for trying dalmaltor.  Someone will figure it out eventually.
[09:23] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, http://www.linux.com/articles/46844
[09:23] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: all that's coming is for windows
[09:23] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: ah there... thanks... check it out now
[09:24] <antoine> doudou : somebody told me it could be a problem of driver, but i know somebody who had the same problem with an ATI card
[09:24] <damaltor> superm401: np.. np
[09:24] <relix-> hey
[09:24] <antoine> and i am not able to install the driver on the intel website
[09:24] <superm401> exit
[09:24] <relix-> every time I do suspend
[09:24] <relix-> and then put my pc on again
[09:25] <[chr0n0s]> i can receive 2 wireless connections on my laptop, how do i define an order for connecting to them ??
[09:25] <relix-> I'm completely logged out and am back at the gnome login splash screen thingy
[09:25] <doudou> Antoine, in fact, the new intel driver has some problems with specific screens. It's the reason what for it would be interesting to know the brand and model of your screen.
[09:25] <infidel_> what composite manager does 7.10 come with?
[09:25] <relix-> all apps that were open are gone
[09:25] <relix-> infidel_ compiz
[09:25] <antoine> doudou : i'm on a laptop i said
[09:25] <infidel_> relix-: where do i set it up at?
[09:25] <relix-> anyone know what happened?
[09:25] <damaltor> sollte jemand deutschen support benötigen, ist das innerhalb der nächsten halben stunde kein problem...
[09:25] <relix-> infidil, you need to install something
[09:25] <doudou> May you give me the brand and model of it: it will permit to know it's actual resolution
[09:26] <relix-> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:26] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, there is a gui for it if you prefer: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Using_the_tovid_GUI
[09:26] <Sander_> I recently read an article / bug about Ubuntu wrecking notebook harddisks... is this serious bug already fixed?
[09:26] <infidel_> relix-: ok thanks
[09:26] <killahb> is there a ubuntu equivalent of "do not cache thumbnails" ?
[09:26] <antoine> doudou : i can tell you the bran of my laptop if you want
[09:26] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: yes i do... thanks a lot... you're an angel
[09:26] <relix-> then under System->Preferences->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[09:26] <antoine> brand*
[09:26] <relix-> np infidel_
[09:26] <antoine> it's a toshiba M70 pro
[09:27] <doudou> OK, I just check on toshiba base his specs... just a while
[09:27] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: have you tried this out already?
[09:27] <nalpha> guys.. It's needed to add deb-src in sources.list ? what's the effect??
[09:27] <killahb> sander:  theres a workaround by editing /etc/hdparm.conf ... i had to do it on my notebook as well
[09:27] <antoine> toshiba satellite pro M70-134
[09:28] <ajax4> Anyone know how to set Nautilus CD burner to verify the checksum of burned CDs?
[09:28] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, nope... it's an older program, but I don't do VCD and it's not the best for DVD (I don't think?)... but because it's roots are in VCD/SVCD, I would say that it's probably a good bet
[09:28] <Sander_> killahb: this is on launchpad right?
[09:29] <killahb> ibelieve so
[09:29] <Sander_> killahb: cause my hdd on this notebook died a week after ubuntu was installed and now I think there is a relation ;)
[09:29] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, it's hard to find anything still actively developed that will deal with VCD... everyone has moved to dvd now that the drives and disks are cheaper per/MB
[09:29] <Sander_> killahb: or do you know the commands yourself?
[09:29] <killahb> doubt it.... it would take months
[09:29] <killahb> yeah 1 sec
[09:29] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: ah yes... i've seen the one's for dvd's.. problem is i don't have a dvd burner (and i should get one since vcd's are obsolete)... this is perfect though... if i can make it work
[09:29] <confuzed> stillWithFiesty, good luck!... I'm off to bed!
[09:29] <[chr0n0s]> i can receive 2 wireless connections on my laptop, how do i define an order for connecting to them ??
[09:30] <stillWithFiesty> confuzed: i know... thanks a lot...
[09:30] <nalpha> guys.. It's needed to add deb-src in sources.list ? what's the effect??
[09:30] <artur_> привет народ
[09:30] <antoine> doudou : i found the caracteristics of the screen
[09:30] <antoine> size : 15;4"
[09:31] <antoine> WXGA TFT
[09:31] <antoine> 1280*800
[09:32] <Godscape> Where is the OO.o channel?
[09:32] <doudou> antoine: ok, the 1280x800 is the native resolution of your screen. We can first try to choose another screen: you go in System>Administration>Screens and Graphics, click on the Model name choose. It gives access to a list of screens. May you give me the model chosen by default for your screen?
[09:32] <dn4>  sudo mount -t vfat /mnt/ /dev/hdc1
[09:32] <dn4> mount: /mnt is not a block device
[09:33] <damaltor> dn4: other way round
[09:33] <damaltor> first device, then place
[09:33] <dn4> dude I'm becoming dislexic
[09:33] <Godscape> dn4: vfat as in virtual fat !?
[09:33] <antoine> doudou : only plug'n'play
[09:33] <dn4> vfat as in tehh super fatty
[09:33] <killahb> is there a ubuntu equivalent of "do not cache thumbnails" ?
[09:34] <mog> Helle everybody, I'm french Opensuse user and I need help please
[09:34] <doudou> antoine: try to choose LCD Panel 1280x800
[09:34] <antoine> kk
[09:34] <Godscape> Doudou va joindre le canal #ubuntu-fr
[09:34] <doudou> Please, what do you mean by "kk"
[09:34] <killahb> sander_:  sorry just realized u didnt get my msg, check this link https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[09:34] <antoine> sorry, i meant "ok" :)
[09:34] <Sander_> killahb: tnx.. was already searching launchpad!
[09:35] <killahb> np
[09:35] <antoine> it's done
[09:35] <mog> can you help me?
[09:35] <antoine> i need to rebbot now i think?
[09:35] <wottan> hola
[09:35] <antoine> reboot*
[09:35] <doudou> You apply the change: does it help?
[09:35] <Godscape> antoine, this isn't AIM.  :D
[09:35] <antoine> sorry ^
[09:35] <damaltor> mog: ask, and wait.
[09:35] <databuddy> anyone here not heard of the awesomeness known as conky?
[09:35] <Godscape> Antoine, tu peux joindre #ubuntu-fr aussi.
[09:35] <damaltor> mog: but explain the problem
[09:35] <antoine> ok merci
[09:35] <mog> enfait je cherche le canal de opensuse en français
[09:36] <databuddy> http://picpaste.com/pics/conky.1193996091.jpg     http://pastebin.com/d7d82cf4d
[09:36] <Godscape> De rien Antoine.
[09:36] <doudou> Antoine, do you wish we switch to ubuntu-fr?
[09:36] <antoine> yes please
[09:36] <anarieth> how do I activate syntax highlighting in vim?
[09:36] <damaltor> mog: ca, cest le server de ubuntu
[09:36] <mog> vous pouver me metrtre sur le canal de opensuse frnçais
[09:36] <ben_underscore> anarieth: i think it is :syntax on
[09:36] <mog> ?
[09:36] <damaltor> anarieth: type :sytax enable
[09:36] <Godscape> Doudou, Antoine is now in #ubuntu-fr as well.
[09:37] <anarieth> thx
[09:37] <damaltor> mog: je ne sais pas ou il est. mais cherche a google, ilya un server de suse aussi
[09:37] <tapas> hmm, somehow ubuntu never remembers my mixer settings
[09:37] <ben_underscore> anarieth: you can also put "syntax on"that in ~/.vimrc
[09:37] <mog> ok,
[09:37] <tapas> it remembers _some_ mixer settings, but not mine
[09:38] <tapas> [soundcard mixer that is]
[09:38] <ben_underscore> anarieth: sorry you can also put "syntax on" in ~/.vimrc
[09:38] <Davy_Jones> how can i tell firefox to download a video instead of trying to display it?
[09:38] <dn4> how does one what what cp is doing
[09:38] <dn4> I did cp *.mp3 /dir
[09:38] <tapas> ah ok, seems to be like this:
[09:38] <killahb> davy_jones:  right click on the link and say "save as"
[09:38] <dn4> how do I see how far it is along?
[09:39] <tapas> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/21804
[09:39] <damaltor> mog: http://fr.opensuse.org/Communiquer#IRC_-_Internet_Relay_Chat
[09:39] <Davy_Jones> killahb: i only have the link.. i pasted it in the address bar but i can't download it
[09:39] <ben_underscore> dn4: use either -v or -i
[09:39] <mog> merci
[09:40] <dn4> ben_underscore, thanks bro
[09:40] <killahb> davy_jones:  not sure on that, but u can always use "fetch http://blah.com/file.avi"
[09:40] <sladok13> slatka
[09:40] <Davy_Jones> killahb: this is what i'm trying to fetch http://www.tsiwebdesign.com/testing/final_glow_sculpt.mpg
[09:40] <damaltor> Davy_Jones: or, you could type "wget address_to_file"
[09:41] <Davy_Jones> damaltor: i know
[09:41] <danko--> I have the problems with my ati mobility 7500
[09:41] <Davy_Jones> damaltor: but would be faster to click the link here and download
[09:41] <danko--> help me
[09:41] <damaltor> well.. wget works on that file for me
[09:41] <slatka-17> hi
[09:42] <slatka-17> kakos i
[09:42] <slatka-17> helllo
[09:43] <OpenSorce> wow......4:30 in the morning and there are 1200 people here......gotta hand it to *buntu.....you got the numbers :-)
[09:43] <killahb> davy_jones:  after the video is loaded, right click on it and "save"
[09:43] <ben_underscore> Davy_Jones: the advantage of using wget to download stuff is that you can restart the download using the -c option and it will only grab that part of the file you've not downloaded already
[09:44] <Q-FUNK> howdy!  I'm wondering, when firefox-gnome-support is installed, does FF use gtkprint or gnomeprint to process printouts?
[09:44] <ben_underscore> OpenSorce: 20.14 here :-)
[09:44] <Davy_Jones> ben_underscore: that's good to know, thanks
[09:44] <Q-FUNK> 11:44 here :)
[09:44] <dn4> how do I find out how much space my current hdd has ?
[09:44] <dn4> using command line only please
[09:44] <killahb> dn4:  df -h
[09:44] <tapas> dn4: df -h
[09:44] <dn4> thank you
[09:44] <tapas> or if yuo are interested in a certain path
[09:45] <Davy_Jones> killahb: i don't think we are using the same plugin.. i use totem-plugin-viewer here
[09:45] <tapas> do df /path/to/someplace/
[09:45] <killahb> yeah im using the mplayer
[09:45] <Davy_Jones> killahb: i'll just live with wget
[09:45] <ben_underscore> dn4: or use "du -ks ." to find out how much space your using in your current directory
[09:45] <Davy_Jones> killahb: or convert to mplayer
[09:46] <dn4> ben_underscore, I get a numer
[09:46] <dn4> number
[09:46] <dn4> 968232
[09:46] <dn4> 968mb?
[09:46] <killahb> dn4:  try du -h .
[09:46] <Davy_Jones> why are some packages called ugly?
[09:46] <tapas> du -ksh .
[09:46] <tapas> :)
[09:46] <illusion-1> hello
[09:46] <ben_underscore> dn4: yep - -k" says to print it in kilobytes
[09:47] <dn4> oh nice du -ksh is a pretty good command
[09:47] <dn4> thanks :)
[09:47] <illusion-1> in ubuntu 7.10 the command arch not found why ?
[09:47] <illusion-1> bash: arch : command not found
[09:47] <ben_underscore> dn4: now i didn't even know about the -h option as i'm used to solaris! learn something new every day
[09:48] <killahb> does anybody know how to turn off the generation of thumbs.db?
[09:48] <dn4> hmm next command to learn instead of copying files how do you move files
[09:48] <nalpha> killahb: in windows?
[09:48] <killahb> in ubuntu
[09:48] <killahb> similar to in windows, yes
[09:49] <killahb> "do not cache thumbnails"
[09:49] <nalpha> killahb: hm.. don't know.. but it's seems like that.. not cache the images ":)
[09:49] <ben_underscore> dn4: that is the mv command
[09:49] <dn4> lets say /home/user1  and I want to take all the files in any directory in the tree from user1 to /home/user1/files
[09:49] <dn4> mv -r *.txt /home/user1/files ?
[09:50] <nalpha> dn4: sudo cp -R /home/user1/*.txt /home/usr/files ???
[09:50] <nalpha> dn4: upss mv
[09:50] <defrysk> dn4, try man mv
[09:51] <dn4> defDfloyd, did not see a recursive fuction for mv :(
[09:51] <killahb> its there
[09:51] <killahb> r
[09:51] <killahb> -r
[09:51] <orgthingy> hi
[09:51] <orgthingy> i have trouble using wireless using ubuntu!
[09:51] <dn4> killahb, don't think so
[09:52] <killahb> lol your right, but apparently its not needed
[09:52] <killahb> im used to bsd, and if i mv a folder, it needs the -r
[09:52] <orgthingy> bye
[09:53] <general> mustafa
[09:53] <ben_underscore> dn4: use -R
[09:53] <jaz_> Hi, hope this is the right place to ask. Was using Nuvola theme until I upgraded to 7.10, after which the icons disappeared. I downloaded Nuvola again and tried to reinstall it by drag-and-drop from the desktop into the Appearance Manager window. I get a message to say that it has been installed, but when I try to apply it, nothing happens. If I try to customise the current theme  with the Nuvola icons, nothing happens. Any ideas, please?
[09:54] <general> gta vaisiti
[09:54] <DisabledDuck> does anyone happen to have a list of applications that come with Ubuntu Studio?
[09:54] <trym> After switching my graphics adapter from nvidia cheapass-something to geforce 8800gtx - ubuntu wont boot in normal mode. The console is all black, X process uses 100% cpu. If I start in recovery mode and manually start gdm - everything works fine. If I disable gdm, and start in normal mode - the console is still black and X hangs if I try to start gdm.
[09:55] <trym> (gutsy btw)
[09:55] <ambro415> where can I get themes for emerald ?
[09:55] <dn4> ben_underscore, hmm -R with what command?
[09:56] <killahb> ambro415:  i installed mine with a google search for emerald-themes... first link i hit was a link to the package
[09:56] <killahb> wish i could apt it though
[09:56] <defrysk> ambro415, sudo apt-get install svn-workbench and follow the instuctions on the emerald theme manager is what I did
[09:57] <ben_underscore> dn4: sorry, I confused a cp option with a mv option ....
[09:57] <dn4> ben_underscore,  :D
[09:57] <killahb> so is there a way to turn off the thumbs.db?
 ben_underscore,  :D
[09:58] <benzs_s> :<
[09:58] <trym> anyone?
[09:58] <xeer> hi everyone. vncviewer isn't positioning my mouse correctly.
[09:59] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone, i'm having problems with pidgin. it doesn't seem to want to stay open for more than 30 seconds or so. this problem seems to come and go. anyone have any suggestions?
[09:59] <killahb> xeer .... its a glitch in the system, it happens when they patch something
[09:59] <xeer> kind of like black cats walking by?
[09:59] <killahb> ;)
[10:00] <OpenSorce> xeer, :-)
[10:00] <ambro415> defrysk: which instructions? when I click the button to download themes a dialog opens and closes immediatedly and nothing gets downloaded
[10:01] <xeer> i'd expect the black square that represents the system cursor to be at the same region the remote computer has the cursor.
[10:03] <warbler> trym: did you install the right driver from restricted drivers?
[10:06] <defrysk> ambro415, when you open the emerald themer and open the repositories tab you can see at the bottom a txt about aunning a command in the shell
[10:06] <defrysk> for that you need to install the svn-workbench
[10:07] <HeartyLove> hi
[10:08] <brade1> im trying to set up a sharing folder between windows and ubuntu through virtualbox and when i type in the command virtualbox gave me for ubuntu it said "only root can do that"
[10:08] <brade1> can u please tell me how i can enable the sharin folder
[10:11] <brade1> ?
[10:11] <DisabledDuck> going on personal opinion, which do you guys prefer, mozilla or evolution?
[10:13] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to make the blinking taskbar buttons any more prominent like they are in windows?
[10:13] <JackMayol> hello
[10:13] <JackMayol> is this the right room for some Ubuntu support ?
[10:14] <dingdangdong> JackMayol: that's right
[10:15] <brade1> can anyone help me??
[10:15] <ben_underscore> brade1: do you want to share a folder?
[10:15] <nikita> in which gutsy repository can i get apache 1.3 ?
[10:15] <Bij2> I know this might be a bad idea but can I install drivers and a Tv Tuner APP in Wine or cedega and hope that it run on Linux?
[10:15] <Flynsarmy> brade1: System - Administration - Shared Folders
[10:15] <brade1> Flynsarmy> thankyou
[10:16] <JackMayol> I'm quite new to linux (ubuntu) and I wonder why xorg+TVtime takes 75% CPU load, I have an ATI x800pro (drivers 8.40), I tried upgrading my ATI drivers to 8.42 but it's even worse (90% CPU....). Is this porblem known ? It's very annoying
[10:16] <Flynsarmy> brade1: If you need root privileges you need to use the sudo command
[10:16] <brade1> oh
[10:17] <brade1> Flynsarmy> i have set up where i want the shared folder to be and it gave me a command to use in linux so i typed it in and it said only root can do that
[10:17] <brade1> so do u know what i shuld type in?
[10:17] <trym> how could I catch this exception: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/RMagick.rb:1413:in `method_missing': undefined method `object_id2name' for :change_geometry:Symbol (NoMethodError)
[10:18] <Flynsarmy> brade1: Open virtual box with sudo virtualbox i suppose. I've never used it before. I use samba to network windows and ubuntu
[10:19] <brade1> Flynsarmy> where and what is sudo virtualbox?
[10:19] <brade1> Flynsarmy> im a newbie
[10:19] <Flynsarmy> brade1: sudo is a command you type into terminal when you want to use something with root privileges
[10:19] <ben_underscore> i just turned my desktop effects to "none" from "extra" and the memory usage dropped by 20%!
[10:19] <Flynsarmy> !sudo > brade1
[10:20] <brade1> ok thanks
[10:20] <JackMayol> hmm
[10:20] <Flynsarmy> brade1: dw about it. i'm a newbie too :P
[10:20] <brade1> Flynsarmy> ok kool
[10:20] <tomg> good morning :)
[10:20] <NeoTubNinja> what is the difference between using sudo and just using su to become root?
[10:21] <tomg> likely stupid question - but how can I get wget to name the outputted file equal to the input url?
[10:21] <tomg> so if I go wget apple.com
[10:21] <tomg> the output is named apple.com
[10:22] <khar> do you know any other download manager than wget for gnome?
[10:22] <tomg> not using gnome
[10:22] <tomg> :(
[10:22] <ben_underscore> NeoTubNinja: in theory you shouldn't have a root account as it is "less secure" than using sudo
[10:22] <DreamLiner> hi
[10:22] <JackMayol> too much traffic in this channel to not oversee a question >_<
[10:22] <DreamLiner> my usb hard disk is no longer writeable, but just readable. How do i mount it ar writeable?
[10:22] <OliVkA> Who from in Russia?
[10:23] <brade1> Flynsarmy> mount -t vboxsf share mount_point is what virtualbox gave me to use in linux for sharing my music folder
[10:23] <gordonjcp> DreamLiner: mount -o remount,rw <dev> <mount>
[10:23] <Bij2> Should I try to Install WIne to get my Tv Tuner to work. I mean is it possible to get some devices to work like that?
[10:23] <brade1> Flynsarmy> what do i need to with that so i can use it? and acess my music on windows to put onto ubuntu
[10:24] <Flynsarmy> brade1: I suppose you type that command into a terminal. Replace mount_point with the location you want to mount the virtual folder
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Bij2: generally no
[10:25] <gordonjcp> Bij2: what kind of tuner is it?
[10:25] <Flynsarmy> brade1: Make sure you stick sudo on the start of that command or it probably won't work
[10:25] <brade1> Flynsarmy> ok
[10:25] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone know if there is a linux dc++ channel
[10:25] <zgmf-x20a> ?
[10:25] <Bij2> gordonjcp:  Chipset is Philips saa7134
[10:25] <Bij2> Tuner card is techCom internal but not sure of the name
[10:26] <Flynsarmy> Question: If i compile/install the latest firefox (2.0.0.9) from source will i lose all my extensions etc or would it be the same as if firefox had autoupdated?
[10:26] <JackMayol> so annyone a clue about the CPU load of xorg+TV software with an ATI ?
[10:26] <brade1> Flynsarmy> wuld that be in the location of where my music is?
[10:26] <Name141> hello, I would like to know how to tuff off/on the NIC by the terminal ?
[10:26] <OpenSorce> Bij2, I have that chipset on my MSI TV@nywhere Plus
[10:26] <Name141> I forgot to copy it.
[10:26] <Bij2> OpenSorce:  You got it to work>\????
[10:26] <amokbob> #qip
[10:27] <Bij2> OpenSorce: Ive tried TvTime, Mythtv, scantv,xawtv
[10:27] <buttercups> zgmf-x20a, #linuxdc++
[10:27] <OpenSorce> Bij2, watching it now....what kind of issues are you having?
[10:27] <DreamLiner> it still doesnt mount
[10:27] <Bij2> Well I couldnt get video
[10:27] <DreamLiner> i try to delete or create something
[10:27] <DreamLiner> and kubuntu replies "unable to create"
[10:27] <Flynsarmy> brade1: No idea, sorry. You'd be best asking someone who actually uses the software
[10:27] <Bij2> I tried various numbers and got video on modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=69 but no audio
[10:27] <zgmf-x20a> buttercups: cool thanks man
[10:28] <Bij2> OpenSorce: I have a cable running from my tuner to my sound card also
[10:28] <Bij2> But cant get sound :(
[10:28] <Name141> Someone suggested something like.. sodo eth0 link down ? or something like that ?
[10:28] <brade1> Flynsarmy> ok thanks
[10:28] <OpenSorce> Bij2, ok.....I ran into that with xawtv in Kubuntu.......I think that's exactly they way I had mine setup.....let me look and see how it's setup on this distro....
[10:28] <nalpha> what's is the best open source software to record ip traffic in my local area network?
[10:29] <Bij2> Ive posted this here at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=599181
[10:29] <gordonjcp> nalpha: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:30] <Alloos1> hi, Last time I use the computer I changed my user privilages, and now I cant perform tasks with root, any solution?
[10:30] <OpenSorce> Bij2, yep....card=3 tuner=69 on this distro too
[10:30] <fatbrain> What media-player would you guys recommend? (for listening to mp3 / managing my mp3 library)
[10:30] <OpenSorce> Bij2, of course I didn't have to do anything to make it work this time....
[10:30] <fatbrain> OpenSorce: What TV-Tuner would that be?
[10:31] <Alloos1> fatbrain: AMAROK
[10:31] <fatbrain> Alloos1: It didn't work for me on amd64
[10:31] <fatbrain> crashed when I tried to play a mp3
[10:31] <DreamLiner> my usb hard disk is no longer writeable, but just readable. Remounting didnt work. Is there a solution except formatting?
[10:32] <Bij2> OpenSorce: I dont know why I cant get audio, Ive checkd in my audio preference and I dont have a capture tab anywhere, And I have gone into preferences and selected everythign in there
[10:32] <art> HELLO
[10:32] <khar>  do you know any other download manager than wget for gnome?
[10:32] <Alloos1> fatbrain: it should, install from package manager
[10:32] <defrysk> gweget
[10:32] <nalpha> gordonjcp: I want to have traficc record log in LAN, and the software just run in my server and it will detect all local area network traffic... like that. so if i have 192.168.1.5 for gateway internet, i have traffic record in MB, ip address who connect to 192.168.1.5 liek that and so antoher traffic.
[10:32] <defrysk> gwget
[10:32] <art> how can i get winetools - lastest wersion?:)
[10:32] <art> *verssion
[10:32] <fatbrain> Alloos1: that's where I installed it from last time (tried it twice) guess I could give it one more try
[10:32] <gordonjcp> nalpha: ah, graphing the amount of traffic rather than actually monitoring what the traffic is?
[10:33] <OpenSorce> Bij2, by default your tv card should have it's audio on......in your sound prefs under input you might try selecting mic and line in and turn both up
[10:33] <nalpha> gordonjcp: yess... and it's must be simpel installation and complete information :D
[10:33] <nalpha> gordonjcp: I'm tryng many software, but it's difficult to install and difficult to use :(
[10:33] <OpenSorce> Bij2, assuming your's is setup like mine you just have a cable running into either mic or line or aux.....?
[10:33] <Bij2> OpenSorce: Did that but I still cant get it to play audio :(
[10:34] <Bij2> Into Line in of my audio card
[10:34] <Alloos1> guys, I need to work as root to be able to give my self provilages again, how to do that ?
[10:34] <Bij2> well its onboard Asus M2n MX SE
[10:34] <junglej> !list
[10:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:35] <art> how can i get winetools - lastest version?:)
[10:35] <ambro415> why can't I 'su' ? I got the right password
[10:35] <inflex-> ambro415: sudo -i       instead
[10:35] <inflex-> ambro415: will give you a root shell
[10:35] <OpenSorce> Bij2, sorry man......if you download what I mentioned in my privmsg and run it you might see how it works that way. Might help to make it work under *buntu
[10:36] <ambro415> inflex-: I also can't login as root from system console. Why that?
[10:36] <Bij2> OpenSorce: Thanks will check it out
[10:36] <inflex-> ambro415: you cannot login as root, period (normally)
[10:36] <AndrewB> inflex-: giving people you don't know in real life is a bad idea ;)
[10:36] <inflex-> ambro415: you have to always login as a normal user and then sudo -i  into root
[10:36] <inflex-> Andre_Gondim: ?
[10:36] <inflex-> ooops
[10:36] <inflex-> damn this tab
[10:37] <nalpha> AndrewB: what's the means?
[10:37] <ambro415> inflex-: I know that very well but I'm just used to logging in as root when I need to set something up
[10:37] <inflex> ambro415: you get used to it
[10:37]  * AndrewB may have missed something, doesn't matter.
[10:37] <inflex> ambro415: I come from a Slackware background - so I know what you mean
[10:37] <inflex> ambro415: but you come to prefer it after a while
[10:37] <ambro415> well I normally use gentoo ...
[10:37] <buttercups> su1
[10:38] <DreamLiner> how do i unlock a folder in ubuntu? it shows a lock on an icon
[10:38] <FiShYmAn> what would happen if i took a hard drive with ubuntu 7.04 (server, no gui) installed and placed it in a new machine with all new hardware, would it work sweet ?
[10:39]  * inflex is still trying to find out why his wifi worked in 7.04 but not in 7.10 :(
[10:39] <gogeta> FiShYmAn dont knoe maybe
[10:39] <gogeta> FiShYmAn never tryed
[10:39] <inflex> it's a PCMCIA card in a Ricoh PCMCIA to PCI adapter card in a normal PC
[10:40] <AndrewB> FiShYmAn: completely depends on the new hardware. If you have the kernel modules compiled in the current kernel etc
[10:40] <inflex> the PCMCIA adapter is detected, the card is detected... but it never 'connects' to the wifi network anymore
[10:40] <Wa1337> hi can some1 help me with the new ATI driver?
[10:40] <Xyc0> Does linus have a video compression utility?
[10:40] <Xyc0> LINUX
[10:40] <Xyc0> heh
[10:40] <gogeta> FiShYmAn most kernel drivers are in ubuntu soo
[10:40] <inflex> Xyc0: lots
[10:40] <Wa1337> i have just installed it
[10:40] <inflex> Xyc0: there's Ogg Theora
[10:40] <AndrewB> FiShYmAn: it is worth a try right? ;)
[10:40] <qazibasit> hi i am using my ubuntu in recovery mode the other startup options are not working
[10:40] <gogeta> Xyc0 take your pic i say the easy one would be avysynth
[10:40] <qazibasit> what should i do?
[10:40] <FiShYmAn> not really...
[10:40] <inflex> Xyc0: else perhaps you mean things like ffmpeg or mencoder
[10:40] <FiShYmAn> but i could clone the drive i guess
[10:40] <gogeta> Xyc0 avisynth
[10:40] <FiShYmAn> then see what happens
[10:41] <Xyc0> Thanks guys
[10:41] <gordonjcp> nalpha: there's no simple way to do it
[10:41] <qazibasit> i am using my ubuntu in recovery mode the other startup options are not working
[10:41] <ac-dc> eli
[10:41] <qazibasit> there is some ACPI error
[10:42] <qazibasit> how to fix it
[10:42] <nalpha> gordonjcp: so?
[10:42] <inflex> Is AVIsynth supposed to be part of the ubuntu packages? I can't find it in my apt-cache
[10:42] <gogeta>  inflex it should be
[10:42] <Xyc0> Can avisynth convert from DivX to OGM?
[10:42] <gogeta> Xyc0 yea
[10:43] <gogeta> Xyc0 its a mencoder gui
[10:43] <Xyc0> hawt, k thanks guys
[10:43] <inflex> isn't OGM the malformed extention of ogg-theora?
[10:43] <inflex> shouldn't it just be .ogg now ?
[10:43] <monfreex> #ubuntu
[10:43] <gogeta> no ogm is ogg video/audio contaner
[10:43] <AndrewB> !hey | monfreex
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <AndrewB> !hi | monfreex
[10:44] <ubotu> monfreex: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:44] <monfreex> im new to irc
[10:44] <Wa1337> i have just installed the new ATI driver that has been released, and i have a black thing flashing when i m in a 3D game/googleEarth... when i tried to open a video my desktop effect got disabled... i dont have xgl maby because of this? coz i deleted it before installing the new driver. however. what shpuld i do ? because i know that with my card it shpuld work perfectly (radeon9600)...
[10:44] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to install firefox from source in ubuntu? I noticed there is an updater program but don't know how to use it
[10:45] <gogeta> Wa1337 ati uses aiglx
[10:45] <qazibasit_> sorry i got dc
[10:45] <qazibasit_> i am using my ubuntu in recovery mode the other startup options are not working
[10:45] <qazibasit_> there is some ACPI error
[10:45] <qazibasit_> how can i fix it
[10:46] <AndrewB> Flynsarmy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:47] <gogeta> Wa1337 dont knoe my ati is a 9200 so i can use the oss drivers
[10:47] <Wa1337> gogeta - so i dont need xgl ya?
[10:47] <gogeta> Wa1337 so it has xgl
[10:47] <Wa1337> o... ok.. :|
[10:47] <fatbrain> Amarok still crashes when I try and play mp3s on it
[10:47] <fatbrain> (amd64)
[10:47] <Wa1337> so u dont know how to solve the problem? :S
[10:47] <chuy_max> is there a way to set serial port speed at startup?, when I login, I have to change it with stty -F device speed, but everytime I restart my PC, I have to do it again. I have thought of adding stty command directly to rc.local, but what suggestions do you give me?
[10:48] <gogeta> Wa1337 did you enable the restrected drivers the compiz should work again
[10:48] <Wa1337> o, realy :O ?
[10:48] <gogeta> Wa1337 yep
[10:48] <Wa1337> r u shure?
[10:49] <passbe> has anyone had a problem whereby totem will stop playing a dvd half way through and complain about libdvdcss
[10:49] <passbe> ?
[10:49] <Wa1337> ok i will try now
[10:49] <cast> from the wiki...'A 32-bit computer has a word size of 32 bits, this limits the memory to a very very large number (4 GB of physical ram in practice). A 64-bit computer will handle a literally enormous amount of memory (about 128 GB of physical ram).' anyone know where the 128gb number comes from?
[10:50] <qazibasit_> what is an ACPI error
[10:50] <gordonjcp> nalpha: probably the easiest way to do it would be to get a switch that supports SNMP traffic measurement
[10:50] <times9> chuy_max: yea adding it to the startup scripts would work, don't know if there's abetter place to put it
[10:50] <gogeta> qazibasit_ the power mangment
[10:50] <qazibasit_> ok
[10:50] <qazibasit_> gogeta: i am having some ACPI error
[10:50] <qazibasit_> what does that mean
[10:50] <gogeta> qazibasit_ well pastbin it
[10:50] <nalpha> gordonjcp: so there is a software do you guess that can be installed to my server?
[10:50] <gogeta> qazibasit_ see what we can do
[10:51] <qazibasit_> ok
[10:51] <gordonjcp> cast: I'm guessing either stupid arithmetic or some sort of physical limitation
[10:51] <boontoo> how do you mount an iso file?
[10:51] <sponix> anyone in here using Rosewill RC-208 Hard Drive Controller Cards?
[10:51] <gordonjcp> nalpha: it depends what you're trying to do
[10:51] <gogeta> qazibasit_ if its a desktop acpi isnt relly neded
[10:51] <gordonjcp> nalpha: if you're trying to measure traffic per host going over a network, then not really, no
[10:51] <nalpha> gordonjcp: just want to log my internet traffice and other sserver?
[10:51] <qazibasit_> well it says unable to load ACPI and the screen goes blank
[10:52] <cast> i've heard that with amd64 the limit isn't 2^64 but rather 2^40 but that's still 1TB
[10:52] <gogeta> qazibasit_ desktop?
[10:52] <qazibasit_> but in recovery mode its working fine
[10:52] <qazibasit_> yes
[10:52] <gordonjcp> nalpha: I don't understand what you're asking
[10:52] <Wa1337> ךםך עםעקאש ן איןמל ןא 'םרלקג :(
[10:52] <Wa1337> lol gogeta i think it worked =]
[10:52] <gogeta> qazibasit_ then add acpi=off to grub
[10:52] <nalpha> gordonjcp: sry for the english, do you ever hear about zenoss?
[10:52] <gordonjcp> nalpha: nope
[10:53] <qazibasit_> just by writing it
[10:53] <Wa1337> gogeta - i still have a black screenn flashing
[10:53] <qazibasit_> or how?
[10:53] <Wa1337> =[
[10:53] <orkungunay> ppcguy, hi my friend, i removed dillo and install swiftfox succesfully.. : ))
[10:53] <Don64> boontoo: sudo mount -o loop <iso-filename> <mount point>
[10:53] <Spooks> Ahoy!
[10:53] <nalpha> gordonjcp: yes i mean just want to know the total bandwith used for each host... :D
[10:53] <gogeta> qazibasit_ well you can add it to the grub list so you dont need to type
[10:54] <gordonjcp> nalpha: as in, which host is using the most traffic from your internet connection?
[10:54] <gogeta> qazibasit_ but yes use edit in grub and add acpi=off
[10:54] <nalpha> gordonjcp: correct :D
[10:54] <gogeta> for a test run
[10:54] <qazibasit_> thanks gogeta
[10:54] <gordonjcp> nalpha: yeah, basically you need a switch that supports SNMP traffic measurement, like I said
[10:54] <qazibasit_> gogeta: thanks let me try it
[10:55] <Wa1337> gogeta - there is still no difference S:
[10:55] <nalpha> gordonjcp: there is no free software? :D Except buying new Switch?
[10:55] <gordonjcp> nalpha: no
[10:55] <gordonjcp> nalpha: it's not a software thing
[10:55] <gogeta> Wa1337 so your getting a black fliker still
[10:55] <gogeta> Wa1337 when conpiz is on
[10:55] <Wa1337> ya, black flashing kinda thing
[10:55] <gordonjcp> nalpha: your PC should never see traffic from other PCs on the same switch
[10:56] <Wa1337> yah
[10:56] <gordonjcp> nalpha: you *could* use a hub, but that would be crap and slow
[10:56] <gogeta> Wa1337 sounds like its not refreshing fast enough
[10:56] <Atomic_UE> Is it easy enough to create an encrypted lvm partition on an external usb hdd and use it plug and play style, or would I have to do a bit of "setup" each time I plugged it in?
[10:56] <gogeta> Wa1337 might be a compiz issue with that card
[10:56] <nalpha> gordonjcp: huhh... I think that we can sniffing the traffic with just only one computer :D :D
[10:56] <nalpha> gordonjcp: so it's doesn't simpel as i think.. ...
[10:56] <d90> can be "AllTray" used with compiz effect running?
[10:57] <Wa1337> but the compiz nnow run better faster... the black flashing thing is just in games, etc'
[10:57] <gordonjcp> nalpha: well, you could only sniff the traffic with one computer if you were on a hub
[10:57] <eko_hermiyanto> hi all
[10:57] <Wa1337> and videos dont run
[10:57] <eko_hermiyanto> I have a problem with prn file
[10:57] <eko_hermiyanto> how to convert it into pdf in ubuntu?
[10:57] <gordonjcp> nalpha: you could put a hub between your router and switch, with just one PC connected to the hub, and monitor all traffic that way
[10:57] <eko_hermiyanto> I have received it from other people but do not know how to print it
[10:57] <gordonjcp> nalpha: it might be quite slow though
[10:57] <gogeta> Wa1337 yea i have herd of this befor tuning off compiz on games and video fixes it
[10:57] <Wa1337> i will try. 1 sec
[10:58] <Wa1337> i want to bee shure
[10:58] <Gronb> is ubuntu secure?
[10:58] <gordonjcp> nalpha: you may be able to set your switch up to have a trunk or monitoring port that presents all traffic at all the other ports
[10:58] <jhaig> eko_hermiyanto: A prn is a generic Windows print file, I think.  It is possibly a postscript, which you can convert to pdf using ps2pdf.
[10:58] <gordonjcp> nalpha: *but* - any switch clever enough to do that will do SNMP stats
[10:58] <Don64> !iso
[10:58] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:58] <eko_hermiyanto> jhaig, I have tried it but failed :(
[10:58] <jhaig> eko_hermiyanto: In a terminal, type "file thing.prn"  What does it say?
[10:59] <nalpha> gordonjcp: hhmmm.... think... thanx for the information :D
[10:59] <eko_hermiyanto> eko@eko-hermiyanto:~/Desktop$ file TRXCARD.PRN
[10:59] <eko_hermiyanto> TRXCARD.PRN: ASCII text, with CRLF, CR line terminators
[10:59] <zetheroo> whats the chat for compiz?
[10:59] <nalpha> gordonjcp: so i will suggest my bos to but SNMP switch...
[10:59] <Wa1337> gogeta - u r right :O
[10:59] <gogeta> Wa1337 heh
[10:59] <Snoopy^-^> erdem
[11:00] <jhaig> eko_hermiyanto: If it is not postscript, I imagine that it is useless to anyone who does not have the exact same printer as the person who sent it to you.
[11:00] <Snoopy^-^>     g  o  o  g  l   e   e   r    d   e   m
[11:00] <gogeta> Wa1337 well someone befor you had this issue and it worked for him same card to
[11:00] <Reng> how do i fixed "No accelerated IMDCT transform found" when using totem or vlc??
[11:00] <Bij2> Is there a Virtualbox tutorial for Gusty Gibbon for installing WIndows 98/XP which anyone has access to or know of?
[11:00] <Wa1337> damn, how do i fix it :(
[11:00] <bloony> how do I setup compiz so its showing a small window of the one Im alt-tabing to?
[11:00] <gogeta> Wa1337 i think its a compiz big on aiglx
[11:01] <gogeta> Wa1337 bug
[11:01] <Wa1337> so there is no solution for it -_- ?
[11:01] <gogeta> Wa1337 i beleve its just slow when running more then 1 3d app at a time
[11:02] <smmagic> Does ubuntu need any antivirus?
[11:02] <Alloos1> Hi, my user primary group is root, and its not letting me anything with sudo, how do I become admin?
[11:02] <Norrel> !virus | smmagic
[11:02] <ubotu> smmagic: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:02] <Wa1337> =\
[11:02] <xishan> hi. i upgraded to gutsy and am having a lot of problems with gnome. how do i uninstall, reset and install again?
[11:02] <ikonia> Alloos1 join the admin group
[11:02] <Alloos1> smmagic: try clam
[11:02] <Wa1337> ok, thank you
[11:02] <gogeta> Wa1337 well the video can be fixed if you tuen off its direct rendering
[11:02] <gogeta> Wa1337 if using mplayer
[11:02] <smmagic> clamav.net?
[11:02] <Alloos1> ikonia: its not letting me changing anything, isnt that strange?
[11:03] <ikonia> Alloos1 what do you mean letting you change anything ?
[11:03] <Reng> how do i fixed "No accelerated IMDCT transform found" when using totem or vlc??
[11:03] <ikonia> Alloos1 was this user setup at install time ?
[11:03] <eko_hermiyanto> oh my god, prn files are so useless
[11:03] <eko_hermiyanto> it makes lot of trouble
[11:03] <Alloos1> ikonia when I type sudo apt-get update it does not do anything, when I go to user management it asks for a password, and when I enter mine it says its wrong
[11:03] <eko_hermiyanto> :(
[11:04] <ikonia> Alloos1 thats not what I asked, I asked if your current user was setup at install time
[11:04] <zetheroo> whats the offtopic chat for Ubuntu?
[11:04] <Alloos1> ikonia: no it was now
[11:04] <Alloos1> now=not
[11:04] <ikonia> Alloos1 ok - so you can't do that because you in the wrong group
[11:04] <gogeta> zetheroo for well off topic
[11:04] <Don64> zetheroo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <ikonia> Alloos1 you need to become the user you setup at install time, then add your current user to the admin group
[11:04] <Alloos1> ikonia: so there is no any solution?
[11:04] <gogeta> zetheroo this channel is used for support mostly
[11:05] <smmagic> Can someone tell me how to install clamav?
[11:05] <ikonia> smmagic there are guides on help.ubuntuc.om
[11:05] <ikonia> smmagic: help.ubuntu.com sorry
[11:05] <Alloos1> ikonia: at install time there was a default user oem with password oem and then from there I created the user i am using now and deleted the oem.
[11:05] <Mohero> Hi all
[11:05] <ikonia> Alloos1 how did you delete the oem user
[11:05] <times9> it is possible to convert feisty from amd64 to a 32 bit install over the network instead of reinstalling from a cd?
[11:06] <ikonia> if your current user can't do anything ?
[11:06] <smmagic> Will there be a difference between 7.04 and 7.10?
[11:06] <sponix> anyone in here using Rosewill RC-208 Hard Drive Controller Cards? I just need to know roughly what transfer speeds they get
[11:06] <ikonia> smmagic only versions
[11:06] <Alloos1> ikonia: every thing was working fine, but some days ago I have changed my primary group from admin to root,
[11:06] <xishan> can some1 help me in removing gnome and its config files and then installing again?
[11:06] <ikonia> Alloos1 why did you do that ? thats why you've broke everthing
[11:06] <Alloos1> ikonia: from user administration, while logged in as the user I am using now
[11:06] <ikonia> Alloos1 why did you do that though ? why did you put your self in the root group and remove the admin group ?
[11:07] <Atomic_UE> Is it easy enough to create an encrypted lvm partition on an external usb hdd and use it plug and play style, or would I have to do a bit of "setup" each time I plugged it in?
[11:07] <Alloos1> ikonia: wanted to test my script because of folder permissions, and now I need to get back to admin
[11:07] <DreamLiner> reformatted my usb hdd, now it works
[11:07] <ikonia> Atomic_UE thats lot of hassle
[11:07] <DreamLiner> what a mystics...
[11:07] <Mohero> can someone help with a Cron job issue, if I run the script I have manually, or using webmin tell the system to run the Cron job, everything works, but when it runs automatically every 5 mins, it copy's all the files correctly, but isn't executing the last line:
[11:07] <ikonia> Alloos1 you'll have to boot into rescue mode and add your user back to the admin group, and remove your current user from the root group
[11:07] <Mohero> iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules
[11:07] <Mohero> is the last line of the script
[11:07] <smmagic> Where do I find how to install clamav on help.ubuntu.com?
[11:07] <Alloos1> will I loose my data?
[11:08] <ikonia> Mohero thats not the syntax for iptables-restore
[11:08] <ikonia> Alloos1 no, your mofidying your users group - thats it
[11:08] <Mohero> ikonia: it isn't?
[11:08] <Atomic_UE> ikonia, having an encrypted hdd isn't a lot of hassle, but from my experience with lvm it kinda needs to be setup specificly if you expect to use a certain volume, which is what kinda worries me a bit
[11:08] <Alloos1> ikonia: can you tell me please how to add user in the rescue mode? so I can follow the steps while there
[11:08] <times9> it is possible to convert feisty from amd64 to a 32 bit install over the network instead of reinstalling from a cd?
[11:08] <ikonia> Atomic_UE an encypted portable LVM disk - that will be hasle, do-able but hassle
[11:09] <ikonia> Alloos1 just man usermod
[11:09] <Atomic_UE> ikonia, what sort of hassle?
[11:09] <ikonia> times9 no
[11:09] <Atomic_UE> ikonia, might give it a shot just for the hell of it ;)
[11:09] <ikonia> Atomic_UE LVM has a private region on the disk - encypting that will cause the volume group issue
[11:09] <Alloos1> thats the whole comand, the user name now is ali so can you give me exact command
[11:09] <Alloos1> ?
[11:09] <times9> ikonia: simple as that ey?
[11:09] <ikonia> Atomic_UE you'll have to use LVM on UUID rather than /dev files - which I'm not sure is possible at this time
[11:10] <ikonia> Alloos1 man usermod
[11:10] <ikonia> times9 yup - no
[11:10] <Alloos1> ikonia: thanks
[11:10] <Alloos1> will do now
[11:10] <adac2> anyone using azureus with the swing web ui? what package do i need to be able to use it in firefox?
[11:11] <Atomic_UE> ikonia, would you have any other ideas for an encrypted external hdd?
[11:11] <ikonia> Atomic_UE don't use lvm
[11:11] <claudio75> Hi...i'm italian so excuse me for my poor english....I have a Webcam from Trust called WB-1200p, which identifies itself on USB as Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam. It works with dapper out of the box using the spca5xx driver. This driver is replaced in gutsy with the gspca driver. After plugging this camera into the usb port gspca is loaded and a device file is created under /dev/video0, but neither cam
[11:11] <ikonia> Atomic_UE just envypt the disk you want
[11:12] <boontoo> i cant for the life of me mount ISOs can anyone help?
[11:12] <Spooks> Poor English? You speak (well, type) the language better than most English people
[11:13] <mario> Hello, would anyone be able to help me with some video problems im having when booting into command line
[11:13] <claudio75> anybody has read my problem?? i need help
[11:13] <dzb> Is there an op here? i have an irc problem.
[11:13] <claudio75> Hi...i'm italian so excuse me for my poor english....I have a Webcam from Trust called WB-1200p, which identifies itself on USB as Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam. It works with dapper out of the box using the spca5xx driver. This driver is replaced in gutsy with the gspca driver. After plugging this camera into the usb port gspca is loaded and a device file is created under /dev/video0, but neither cam
[11:14] <ikonia>  video problems on the command line ?
[11:14] <gogeta> !ubuntu-it
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <gogeta> !it
[11:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:14] <ikonia> dzb: #freenode for freenoe irc help
[11:14] <dzb> ikonia: thX#
[11:14] <doudou> Claudio, I don't know anything about webcam, but did you try easycam2?
[11:14] <arnath> hi, how do i auto-mount an nfs shared file from another computer? (also: i have to mount it on a laptop, so it may not always be there)
[11:15] <ikonia> arnath automount is the program you looking for :)
[11:15] <zgmf-x20a> i have an interesting prob if someone could help me.  when i download a torrent i cannot open it with azureus... it keeps telling me that the file is "could not be opened: Not a File"  how do i fix this!?
[11:15] <arnath> ikonia: o :D and will it error if the map in question is not available?
[11:15] <claudio75> doudou: already treid :(
[11:15] <ikonia> arnath not really error, just not moount the device so you'll go into an empty directory
[11:16] <bloony> how can I setup so theres a small window of the app I'm alt-tabing to?
[11:16] <arnath> ikonia: great :)
[11:16] <doudou> Sorry, I can't help...  :'(
[11:16] <ikonia> arnath it may depending on your NFS version lag a little while it trys to connect
[11:16] <mario> ikonia: yeah, video problems when booting into command line. if i set any vga= boot options the screen boots to blank. but if i just leave it as normal, it boots into a really small reso which lets me see about 13 lines of prompt before going off screen requiring a clear to get it up so i can see it again
[11:16] <arnath> ikonia: thats ok :p
[11:17] <arnath> ikonia: is "automount" installed by default on ubunut?
[11:17] <boontoo> !acetone
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acetone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <ikonia> mario vga=ask
[11:18] <Bij2> Can anyone point me to a Virtualbox tutorial of installing XP or 98 which is for  gutsy
[11:18] <arnath> ikonia: hmm, where do i find "gnome-volume-manager" (which seems to be the ubuntu auto-mount thingy right?)
[11:18] <ikonia> arnath no, but it should probably be a dependency on nfs
[11:18] <Mohero> ikonia: what is the santax to use for iptables-restore? if I run iptables-restore /etc/iptables.up.rules it works fine, but in the script as a cron job, it doesn't work
[11:18] <ikonia> arnath: gnome-volume-manager is not "automount" - you want NFS's automoounter
[11:19] <ikonia> Mohero have a look at that script
[11:19] <arnath> ikonia: autofs ?
[11:19] <ikonia> arnath: oooh good question, not sure if thats the package name, sounds likley though
[11:20] <Mohero> ikonia: which script? the one I've written
[11:20] <ikonia> Mohero: I thought iptables-restore read from a names file
[11:20] <Don64> !info acetone
[11:20] <ubotu> Package acetone does not exist in gutsy
[11:20] <ikonia> Mohero: I'm not aware you can do iptbles-restore <$file
[11:20] <bloony> how can I setup so theres a small window of the app I'm alt-tabing to?
[11:20] <Mohero> ikonia: works manually, just not in the script.
[11:20] <ikonia> Mohero: very interesting, I didn't know you can do that
[11:21] <mario> ikonia: i tried vga=ask aswell, but it gave me no options for reso, only options for combinations of columns and lines. all options are 80 x n, so i tried the lowest line number 80x25, which is exactly the same as what i was having problems with
[11:21] <Mohero> ikonia: ok, is there a *propper* way to get it to read a rules file and apply them?
[11:21] <arnath> ikonia: not sure where to go next, i have autofs installed, but it doesn't work on commandline, and i don't see an interface anywhere
[11:21] <ikonia> mario what video card is this on
[11:21] <ikonia> arnath there is no gui, you have to setup NFS autmoount maps,
[11:22] <ikonia> arnath: apologies you sounded like you where confident with NFS so I didn't expand
[11:22] <yassine> is there no package for fastcgi for lighthttpd?
[11:22] <mario> ikonia: its a compaq armada m700 laptop, i think its an ATI mobility RAGE card.
[11:22] <arnath> ikonia: this is the first time that my entire network is linux-only, so before i always used samba :s
[11:22] <Spooks> I'm receiving the "VCD Protocol Source Plugin" not being installed error: anyone know what file/files exactly I need to be installing?
[11:22] <Mohero> ikonia: you should take lots of credit points too, you seem very helpful here ;)
[11:22] <ikonia> arnath have a quick google for "NFS automount maps" and it will give you a basic "how to use automounter" style intro, better than I can
[11:23] <arnath> ikonia: ok will do, thanks :)
[11:23] <zgmf-x20a> what is gnome-desktop?
[11:23] <ikonia> arnath the principal is you basiclly have a map file say NFS:10.11.216.1/export/home /home and when you "cd /home" on local box automountd will mount /exprt/home on /home for you
[11:24] <ikonia> arnath but a google search will go into more detail and explain it, if you want example map files I'll provide them for you
[11:24] <ikonia> Mohero: thank you, appiciated
[11:24] <zgmf-x20a> what is gnome-desktop? and what happens if i remove it? i want to get rid of this lowsy bottorrent client...
[11:24] <arnath> ikonia: that would be nice :)
[11:24] <ikonia> zgmf-x20a gnome-desktop is a meta package for the ubuntu install gnome desktop
[11:25] <ikonia> arnath do a google search and give me a nudge when you're ready and I'll find you some map files from my network
[11:25] <zgmf-x20a> ikonia: so what happens if i remove it?
[11:25] <arnath> ikonia: ok, will do :)
[11:25] <ikonia> arnath nice thing is NFS automount is platofrm generic so you can have hpux/solaris/$linux using the same nfs mounts/maps
[11:25] <RainCT> hi
[11:25] <ikonia> zgmf-x20a it will remove the meta package and anything that references it will not work eg: at ubuntu upgade time it checks the version of gnome-desktop
[11:26] <arnath> ikonia: nice :o
[11:26] <zgmf-x20a> ikonia: crap!... grrr.... why tie that silly and bad bittorrent client to that!?!?!?!?
[11:26] <zgmf-x20a> argh
[11:26] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[11:26] <zgmf-x20a> FRUSTRATION!
[11:26] <ikonia> arnath: have a read and if you want me to expand on it I'd be happy to do so and we'll take it into #ubuntu-fftopic
[11:26] <ikonia> zgmf-x20a because most peopel wnat it. Why do you want to remove it so bad, just don't use it
[11:26] <Pici> zgmf-x20a: Whats the problem, the client is very small, just replace it with something else.
[11:27] <ikonia> Pici: ahh the sensible approach
[11:27] <zgmf-x20a> thats what im trying to do but i keep getting error messages!
[11:27] <zgmf-x20a> and im trying dc++ but that is going in circles
[11:27] <raphiq> #polska
[11:27] <ikonia> zgmf-x20a: do'nt remove it - just USE something else, its ery small and helps the majority of people
[11:27] <zgmf-x20a> linuxdc++
[11:27] <arnath> ikonia: i "think" i get it, though the options in the map file are a bit vague
[11:27] <eko_hermiyanto> hello anyone knows about prn files?
[11:27] <eko_hermiyanto> and how to open it in ubuntu?
[11:27] <mario> ikonia: actually make that an ATI Rage Pro Mobility
[11:27] <Mohero> Ikonia: do you know of a way to get IPTables to read a file?
[11:27] <ikonia> arnath ok, do you want me to dig out some map files
[11:27] <eko_hermiyanto> I have lot of trouble with it
[11:28] <Pici> eko_hermiyanto: What is a prn file?
[11:28] <ikonia> Mohero ahhh now that I do, I wrote a script that loops thorugh a "rules" file and basiclly does iptables -F $rules_file_variable"
[11:28] <arnath> ikonia: hmm, possibly rather explain what -rw,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 means :)
[11:28] <eko_hermiyanto> Pici, it's like postscript but usually is used in microsoft windows environment
[11:29] <eko_hermiyanto> one of the employee in my office received this kind of file
[11:29] <Mohero> ikonia: ok, i'm not *great* at scripts yet... unfortunatly from a windoze background....
[11:29] <eko_hermiyanto> and send it to me to print it
[11:29] <ikonia> arnath ok - so -rw is "read write" soft is a "soft" mount which I 'll explain data, the r-size and wsize is the read "cache" stored for read and writes
[11:29] <eko_hermiyanto> but it's very difficult for me
[11:29] <ikonia> Mohero this may sound a little backwards, but take a look at the redhat iptables script that is a good example to work from
[11:29] <arnath> ikonia: do most of those come with default values or do you have to specify them for each mount?
[11:29] <Mohero> ikonia: ok thanks.
[11:29] <ikonia> arnath I specify as I'm not certin if or what th edefaults are
[11:30] <arnath> ikonia: o
[11:30] <Pici> eko_hermiyanto: try running `file filename.prn` perhaps Linux thinks its something else.
[11:30] <ikonia> Pici: is it a porn file ?
[11:30] <`LePGeL[BoY]> asdf
[11:30] <arnath> ikonia: what is the general rule for determining the size of the rsize & wsize? or is 8192 good in general?
[11:31] <ikonia> arnath: think about how big your mount is - how much ram you have on your machine and how much you want to cache/buffer ?
[11:31] <Pici> ikonia: no :p
[11:31] <ikonia> arnath: its basiclly a read and write buffer options
[11:31] <arnath> ikonia: mount is pretty big -> 140-ish gig, and 2 gig ram on both machines
[11:32] <arnath> ikonia: so what does "intr" do?
[11:32] <ePax> !realplayer
[11:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <ikonia> arnath ok so setting an 8 meg buffer is probablbly fine but you could up it to say 12 - 24 somethign like that
[11:33] <ikonia> arnath intr - don't know off the top of myhead, you've caught me out on that one
[11:33] <Don64> Pici: http://www.frogmorecs.com/arts/what_is_a_prn_file.html is about prn files
[11:34] <arnath> ikonia: hehe ok, i will try to mount this (btw, my samba shares are giving me this error: "the folder contents could not be displayed"
[11:34] <Pici> Don64: tell eko_hermiyanto, he was looking for it.
[11:34] <ikonia> arnath that could mean anything in samba, you'd have to drill down more than that
[11:34] <Don64> Pici: ok
[11:34] <arnath> ikonia: well, i'll try nfs first, if i get it up and running, samba is out
[11:35] <Don64> eko_hermiyanto: look here http://www.frogmorecs.com/arts/what_is_a_prn_file.html
[11:35] <ikonia> arnath: for a non-windows environment and a good network you'll find it excellent, more so with a centralised auth system like say nis+ or ldap AND automunter
[11:35] <ikonia> autmounter even
[11:36] <croSmiley> how to connect to wireless network from console?
[11:37] <arnath> ikonia: ye, i was planning to look into ldap later :)
[11:37] <ikonia> arnath: you'll find it a good overall solution
[11:40] <Reng> what is the command to install dependence programs
[11:41] <fatbrain> How do I add stuff to the Widget Layer?
[11:41] <Pici> croSmiley: sudo iwconfig ethX essid "ssidname" ; sudo dhclient ethX
[11:41] <IdleOne> Reng:  what are you trying to install?
[11:41] <ikonia> Reng synaptic / apt will do it for you
[11:42] <arnath> ikonia: its not quite working :s
[11:42] <eko_hermiyanto> pici, Don64 : thanks for the information about prn files
[11:42] <ikonia> arnath: whats up
[11:42] <Don64> np
[11:42] <arnath> ikonia: should we take this to offtopic or stay here?
[11:42] <Reng> i have some programs that have missing dependences and i just wan a command that search and auto update it.
[11:42] <eko_hermiyanto> I am using ubuntu and able to add network printer(from active directory) into my system
[11:43] <Woutifier> Hey
[11:43] <eko_hermiyanto> but how to send a given file into a given network printer?
[11:43] <eko_hermiyanto> is it possible in ubuntu to do that with command line?
[11:43] <fanf> hello
[11:43] <IdleOne> Reng: if that program you are trying to install is in the repositories ten synaptic or apt-get will handle all the depends
[11:44] <Reng> oic
[11:44] <IdleOne> Reng: are you trying to compile something?
[11:44] <Woutifier> For some reason the standard live version of Gutsy gibbon (the non safe graphics version) doesn't work here
[11:44] <Woutifier> I get a very weird screen
[11:45] <Woutifier> I have a Geforce 6600GT
[11:45] <Woutifier> That's not that out of the ordinary is it?
[11:45] <helge> hi, quick q, if you dont have a cd-rom nor floppy, any possible way to get ubuntu installed? like for example, via usb flash stick
[11:45] <arnath> ikonia: i added to /etc/auto.master one line -> /media/external /etc/auto.external --timeout 60
[11:45] <ikonia> helge that is possible but hassle, and your motherboard must support usb booting
i was wonder if there is a commandline that helps you find and install all the dependence for you
[11:45] <helge> yes, it does
[11:46] <aboo0ood> How can i mount my CD-ROM ?
[11:46] <helge> any guides I could go over to accomplish it?
[11:46] <arnath> ikonia: then to auto.external i added: usb -rw,soft,intr,rsize=24576,wsize=24576 ip:/media/usb
[11:46] <YoG_> hi, I'm having a similar problem to the one described in this forum thread "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571395" (Wifi disconnects on high traffic).  can anyone please help me this?
[11:46] <IdleOne> Reng: if I dont know what you are trying to install then I dont know what depends you need .
[11:46] <ikonia> arnath: is /media/extneral NFS shared and you need to specify a host for NFS
[11:46] <burwaco> what's the most currant imap server under linux ?
[11:46] <ikonia> arnath: ahhh not sure how NFS handles usb devices, I only use it for network
[11:46] <burwaco> mail server...
[11:46] <ikonia> burwaco: there are many
[11:46] <arnath> ikonia: i specified a network and yes its nfs
[11:46] <Bij2> By installing screenlets does it taxes my hard disk alot (For exampleif the screenlet was a hard disk monitor)
[11:46] <kip> how can I count the number of lines of an ascii file??
[11:46] <IdleOne> Reng: tell me what you want to install
[11:46] <burwaco> ikonia: citadel ?
[11:46] <arnath> ikonia: i'm also mounting a normal dir
[11:47] <arnath> ikonia: (you can add more then 1 thing to auto.external right?)
[11:47] <burwaco> ikonia: how did your update go ?
[11:47] <kip> how can I count the number of lines of an ascii file in the shell??
[11:47] <ikonia> arnath: oooh yes
[11:47] <ikonia> burwaco: which update ?
[11:47] <Pici> kip: wc -l
[11:47] <kip> tks
[11:47] <ikonia> burwaco: I'm not aware of bitdel
[11:47] <moclobemide> how do i use javadoc after installing them
[11:48] <Reng> example: i have totem install in synaptic, but when i run totem, its still ask for jackd program which i was missing
[11:48] <burwaco> ikonia: didn't you upgrade last night, sorry must confuse you with someone else, you were helping someone with compiz right ?
[11:48] <arnath> ikonia: i did /etc/init.d/autofs restart and got "couldn't stop automount for /media/external" and "failed to start automount point /media/external"
[11:48] <ikonia> burwaco I've not done an ubuntu update in a few days
[11:48] <IdleOne> Reng: apt-cache search jack
[11:49] <ikonia> arnath it failed to start as its not stopped, make sure your not in the directorys your trying to stop
[11:49] <burningice> HI @LL
[11:49] <arnath> ikonia: ah sorry, had a terminal open somewhere :)
[11:49] <moclobemide> how i read java doc after installing it
[11:50] <Metal03> Hi there, is there a way to extract a *.uha file in Linux?
[11:50] <ikonia> arnath: easy mistake to make ;)
[11:50] <arnath> ikonia: so how does this work? i browse to /media/external, but there's nothing in there?
[11:50] <ikonia> arnath I'll need to do some research as a.) I don't know how ot handle USB disks with nfs b.) you'll need to make sure you have your /etc/exports file setup correct for NFS shares
[11:51] <arnath> ikonia: i have commented out the usb stick, gonna try to fix the normal dir first
[11:51] <ikonia> arnath good call,
[11:52] <cl6> jipj
[11:52] <cl6> mk
[11:52] <cl6> [,p
[11:52] <Pici> cl6: stop
[11:52] <cl6> nffkfsoke
[11:52] <cl6> l=-f
[11:52] <cl6> -fk-0
[11:52] <cl6> htu
[11:52] <cl6> tu
[11:52] <ikonia> thanks
[11:52] <xianai> hi
[11:52] <IdleOne> you did warn him
[11:52] <xianai> hi
[11:52] <arnath> ikonia: i have changed nothing about /etc/exports, this may be the problem
[11:53] <Metal03> So anyone know about extrating a .uha file?
[11:53] <xianai> arnath: hi, can you see my typings ?
[11:53] <ikonia> arnath /etc/exports is your "shares" so if your not sharing anything - nothing for automounter to mount
[11:53] <co_black_devil> surabay
[11:54] <xianai> ikonia: /etc/exports is for NFS
[11:54] <ikonia> xianai I know
[11:54] <xianai> ikonia: :)
[11:54] <ikonia> why is that a problem ?
[11:54] <arnath> xianai: yes
[11:54] <arnath> ikonia: ah, you mean /etc/exports on the server, sorry, i thought on the client, will check
[11:55] <ikonia> arnath: thats right
[11:55] <xianai> ikonia: I am testing my irc client,haha
[11:55] <Pici> Metal03: Take a look here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=203293   (I have no idea if this will work)
[11:55] <arnath> ikonia: that seems to be correct
[11:55] <ikonia> arnath: well hang on just to be clear I thought you where tyring to mount alocal disk here ?
[11:55] <xianai> xianai: I'd like to highlight my id on the screen
[11:55] <ikonia> xianai: can you test elsewheere please
[11:55] <Snoopy^-^> hihih
[11:56] <arnath> ikonia: i have one server which is sharing and my laptop has to mount the share
[11:56] <xianai> ikonia: :)
[11:56] <ikonia> arnath: ok - so show me your automount map again please
[11:56] <YoG_> hi, I'm having a similar problem to the one described in this forum thread "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571395" (Wifi disconnects on high traffic).  can anyone please help me this?
[11:57] <arnath> mymap -rw,soft,intr,rsize=24576,wsize=24576 ip:/mymap
[11:57] <arnath> ikonia: mymap -rw,soft,intr,rsize=24576,wsize=24576 ip:/mymap
[11:57] <ikonia> arnath ahh ok - so you are using an ip address
[11:57] <arnath> ikonia: yes
[11:57] <ikonia> arnath: you are doing 10.11.216.1:/mymap for example
[11:57] <ikonia> just checking
[11:57] <arnath> ikonia: indeed
[11:57] <orgthingy> hi
[11:57] <ikonia> arnath: first thing to do is check you can mount that manually
[11:57] <orgthingy> HOW CAN I download TOR for ubutu? i went to the site but it was so complicated
[11:57] <domaevn> hey guys,  ive a question about 64bit processor architevtuur. would anyone be kind to help me?:)
[11:57] <svanimpe> can anyone help me with this annoying problem: my system immediately restarts after shutdown. I already explored my BIOS settings, but nothing helped. Also I don't have this problem with the 7.10 Live CD or with Windows XP
[11:58] <zerosoul> hey.. need help getting my wireless up and running any 1 up for the job
[11:58] <ikonia> arnath: mount -t NFS 10.11.216.1:/export/home /mnt
[11:58] <ikonia> for example
[11:58] <Niteye> i installed the catalyst ATI drivers, and now wobbly windows (and other fancy desktop effects) no longer seem to take place
[11:58] <xianai> domaevn: I am in 32 mode while my cpu supports em64
[11:58] <arnath> ikonia: unknown filesystem type "NFS"
[11:58] <Gatestone> Can you recommend some fancy "dynamic wallpaper" software that works with Gutsy? Like how to run screensavers on background, or xearth like software?
[11:58] <ikonia> arnath: do you have the NFS client installed
[11:59] <arnath> ikonia: should have it ye, but i will check again
[11:59] <sashimi> hi every boy
[11:59] <Pici> Gatestone: A bit of a manual approach, but it works: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/14/animated-wallpaper-with-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu/
[11:59] <xianai> arnath: re-compile your kernel maybe
[11:59] <sashimi> Is there a way to read APE audio files in totem ?
[11:59] <Serge> hello, how to create an unix account for someone
[11:59] <izyAlex> where i can find games for ubuntu ? -)
[11:59] <IdleOne> !games
[11:59] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:59] <svanimpe> Serge: use the users and groups tools
[11:59] <arnath> ikonia,xianai: i have nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server
[11:59] <sashimi> !ape
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <ikonia> xianai stop making nosense suggestions, why would he re-compile his kenrel for that
[12:00] <sashimi> !monkey
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> Hi
[12:00] <xianai> Serge: adduser or useradd
[12:00] <ikonia> arnath there is an NFS-client package too
[12:00] <Moduliz0r> What GUI program would I use to rip a DVD to iPod MP4?
[12:00] <dgjones> Gatestone, i don't use it, but I seem to remember that Kubuntu had an option to let you automatically change the background every few minutes, there was something for Ubuntu that did a similar thing, but I can't remember the name of it
[12:00] <IdleOne> !mp3 | sashimi try this link
[12:00] <ubotu> sashimi try this link: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <arnath> ikonia: nfs-user-server ?
[12:00] <owert> hi, im running ubuntu 7.10 and i have two sound cards (an audigy2 and an onboard one) how can i allow all analogue sound out through the audigy and the digital (such as encoded dolby) out through the onboard soundcard?
[12:00] <ikonia> arnath: not sure what its called on ubuntu - check the package descirption
[12:00] <izyAlex> !games
[12:00] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:00] <xianai> ikonia: he'd check if the kernel does not support NFS of course
[12:00] <ikonia> arnath: its normally something simple like "nfs-client"
[12:01] <Serge> xianai: then how i can access this account from the another machine?:)
[12:01] <arnath> ikonia: hmm i looked for nfs in the title only, but there is nothing with "client" it seems
[12:01] <Serge> by putty
[12:01] <Pici> !ssh | Serge
[12:01] <ubotu> Serge: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:01] <xianai> Serge: yeah,ssh
[12:01] <ikonia> xianai you don't need to recompile your kernel to do that, and the default ubuntu one does hence why nfs-server packages are available, think efore telling people to recompile their kernel
[12:01] <ikonia> arnath one moment
[12:01] <arnath> ikonia: ok
[12:01] <domaevn> xianai, thats exactly what i want to ask, about support :) look, celeron m 520 supports 64bit archeticture as i can see on the net. but a guy told me its not really  64bit architecture. so is it or not?:)
[12:02] <Moduliz0r> What GUI program would I use to rip a DVD to iPod MP4?
[12:02] <Serge> but it is possible to access the machine with my default ubuntu account?
[12:02] <ikonia> Moduliz0r tons of options, dvd:rip for example, look in synptic see what you fnacy
[12:02] <Pici> Serge: Yes, but you need the ssh server installed.
[12:02] <sashimi> IdleOne> thx, but there isn't anything relevant to monkey's audio codec on that page. damn stupid proprietary format :s
[12:02] <Serge> Pici: do you know about radmin?)
[12:02] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:02] <Serge> noot
[12:02] <Serge> putty
[12:02] <Pici> Serge: No, I dont, sorry.
[12:02] <Serge> )
[12:02] <Serge> i mean putty
[12:02] <Pici> Serge: Yes, I'm using putty right now.
[12:02] <lkthomas> guys, I am trying to install amd64 version of ubuntu, but it is hell slow when I running installation
[12:03] <`LePGeL[BoY]> asdf
[12:03] <ikonia> arnath I've got to pop off for a lunch appointment, I can't see an NFS client package either so I assume your right. I'll be ack in about 40 minutes
[12:03] <lkthomas> anyone have any idea what cause the slow performance during installation ?
[12:03] <dgjones> Gatestone, there was this for Ubuntu Feisty, but whether its ok for gutsy I don't know http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_set_up_.28automatic.29_background.2Fwallpaper-changer_application_for_GNOME
[12:03] <Serge> Pici: can i access the machine with putty to log in from the windows machine, yeah
[12:03] <arnath> ikonia: ok :)
[12:03] <Serge> but what port to use to access it, 21?
[12:03] <xianai> domaevn: maybe you should check www.intel.com for the features of that cpu type, I only know that all core2s support em64
[12:03] <Moduliz0r> does anyone know why I can't access much more than Google when I use my Relakks VPN?
[12:04] <Pici> Serge: You can, but you need to install the ssh server on ubuntu first, see the message aboev from ubotu
[12:04] <Pici> Serge: 22 for ssh.
[12:04] <Serge> yes, i have already ssh
[12:04] <Serge> ok
[12:04] <Woutifier> ssh! be silent!
[12:04] <Woutifier> ;)
[12:04] <xianai> Serge: ssh -l user remote_host
[12:04] <Pici> xianai: That doesnt help if you're using Putty :)
[12:04] <Serge> :)
[12:04] <Moduliz0r> well PuTTY is even simpler
[12:05] <Moduliz0r> it's all GUI
[12:05] <Serge> but will accept the ubuntu outcoming connections??
[12:05] <IdleOne> sashimi: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18319.html
[12:05] <vipwoody> hello
[12:05] <IdleOne> hope that helps a little
[12:05] <Serge> )
[12:06] <Pici> Serge: You mean incoming connections? Yes.
[12:06] <Serge> yes
[12:06] <Serge> )
[12:06] <vipwoody> is there any open-source software for Flowcharting?
[12:06] <Pici> Serge: If you have a router you'll have to forward the ports of course.
[12:06] <Serge> heh
[12:06] <Serge> this rocks
[12:06] <domaevn> xianai: i checked it on intel site, therestands that some of the celeron m's support 64 architecture. and there stands 520 does. but a guy at the shop, when i askd him about one laptop there. like, is it a 64bit architecture processor? he sad: no, its not really 64 bit architecture. so no im like o.O
[12:06] <`LePGeL[BoY]> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686] distro[Debian 4.0] cpu[1 x AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ @ 1.41GHz] mem[Physical : 503MB, 58.0% free] disk[Total : 64.17GB, 88.20% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]] sound[]
[12:06] <Pici> vipwoody: Check this out, I havent used it though: http://debaday.debian.net/2007/10/24/kivio-powerful-easy-to-use-linux-flowcharting/
[12:07] <xianai> arnath: apt-get install nfs-common
[12:07] <Serge> i will try to acces my machine from the another OS)
[12:07] <Pici> `LePGeL[BoY]: Please dont do that here.
[12:07] <demon_spork> I created a boot cd for Gutsy and then installed Vista. and now the boot cd doesn't work, it worked before installing vista and after installing XP thrice.  It keeps taking me to busybox and (initramfs)
[12:07] <xianai> Serge: yeah, putty for windows
[12:07] <vipwoody> thank you Pici
[12:07] <arnath> xianai: already have that one
[12:07] <aboo0ood> guys , i really need help in this , i am sick of it .. why isn't my CD/DVD drive mounted correctly !
[12:07] <Pici> domaevn: Try asking in ##hardware about your CPU.
[12:07] <`LePGeL[BoY]> Pici: sorry got an automatic sysinfo script
[12:07] <jrib> vipwoody: dia as well
[12:08] <domaevn> pici: thant you, i hope i dont gonna have to w8 there for ages for an antswer :)
[12:08] <fokez> hi guys, is there any possibility to extend my home partition without liveCD? I set it up on 500mb and now there is only 150...
[12:08] <Downix> Ok, 7.10 on SPARC is a tad confusing
[12:08] <xianai> arnath: then what is your error message when you were trying to mount
[12:09] <fokez> I've got gutsyG
[12:09] <Symmetria> hey all
[12:09] <Bij2> Is there a flashget equivalent on Ubuntu?
[12:09] <arnath> xianai: permission denied
[12:09] <Symmetria> can anyone recommend a decent dvd playing application?
[12:09] <arnath> xianai: i'm not sure why, i've checked and rechecked, ive added the network, the ip & the hostname
[12:09] <novato_br> what is the software can I see pictures on framebuffer?
[12:09] <demonspork> Bij2, isn't flashget a firefox plugin???
[12:10] <xianai> domaevn: I don't know, em64 is not IA64 but, it does equals to x86-64 in AMD
[12:10] <moclobemide> I installed sun-java6-doc and I can't find where it is and don't know how to read it?
[12:10] <Bij2> I meant the Wnidows Flashget equivalent :D
[12:10] <xianai> arnath: do you have firewall dropping your packets?
[12:10] <JustinAllen> \
[12:10] <arnath> xianai: no
[12:10] <gogeta> Bij2 firefox down them all
[12:11] <Reng> how do i fixed "No accelerated IMDCT transform found" when using totem or vlc??
[12:11] <jrib> !dvd > Symmetria (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:11] <gogeta> http://www.downthemall.net/
[12:11] <Bij2> Im a ubuntu newbie so could you explain that a bit. im assuming you want me to get the same plugin for firefox?
[12:12] <gogeta> Bij2 yep its a extension for firefox
[12:12] <tuxmaster1988> hello when i adjust the volumn with mplayer i get alsa control error with left channel why is this?
[12:12] <Bij2> gogeta: How may I download it? Is it available in synaptic?
[12:13] <pedrotmartinez> Hi everyone
[12:13] <pedrotmartinez> I have installed yet ubuntu gutsy on a laptop
[12:14] <gogeta> Bij2https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=down+them+all&status=4
[12:14] <pedrotmartinez> and I am having problems with wifi conexion
[12:14] <pedrotmartinez> any help?
[12:14] <Symmetria> ouchhhhhh my mirror is getting hammered
[12:14] <Bij2> Ty Gogeta
[12:14] <Bij2> gogeta: Im using an AMD64 INstall with the browser that came with it. Is that a problem?
[12:14] <moclobemide> Where is java documentation located
[12:15] <gogeta> Bij2 no idea
[12:15] <Bij2> gogeta: Thanks Ill try it out
[12:15] <gogeta> Bij2 but as long as firefox works it should
[12:15] <Pici> moclobemide: /usr/share/doc/sun-java6-doc/html
[12:15] <Pici> moclobemide: dpkg -L sun-java6-doc gave me that
[12:15] <tuxmaster1988> mplayer: Alsa Control: Error setting left channel, invalid argument, <<<<help me
[12:16] <xianai> arnath: paste your exports entries here, I'd like to check it on my own machine
[12:16] <Pici> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:16] <xianai> ok
[12:16] <xianai> no paste
[12:17] <Pici> :)
[12:17] <pedrotmartinez> when I make an "lspci" the result of the hardware to the wifi
[12:17] <pedrotmartinez> is ·04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)"
[12:17] <arnath> xianai: /mymap         ip/mask(rw) ip(rw) computername(rw)
[12:17] <roy> How do you find out what the topic is?
[12:17] <bloony> how do I delete a folder?
[12:17] <Pici> roy: /topic
[12:17] <gogeta> bloony ?
[12:17] <Pici> bloony: rm -rf foldername   (it wont prompt you)
[12:17] <bloony> kk
[12:17] <xianai> arnath: ok, just one line ?
[12:17] <bloony> thx
[12:18] <gogeta> bloony or right click move to trash
[12:18] <arnath> xianai: yes
[12:18] <tuxmaster1988> mplayer: Alsa Control: Error setting left channel, invalid argument, <<<<anyone?
[12:18] <bloony> yup.. just wanted to know how in terminal
[12:18] <bloony> thx
[12:19] <gogeta> bloony rm -rf /folder
[12:19] <skarab> i have a machine with two network interfaces, one going out to the internet, and one on this tiny local lan
[12:19] <tuxmaster1988> ...
[12:19] <bloony> yupp.. pici wrote it :)
[12:19] <skarab> i'd like to forward packets from the local lan through the machine with two interfaces
[12:19] <skarab> but no luck so far
[12:20] <skarab>  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to 1
[12:20] <skarab> and i think the routes are all correct
[12:20] <gogeta> bloony for a single file its just rm  file
[12:20] <crolle17> i'd like to set syntax-highlighting using vim. i tried this in .vimrc: syntax on (got message: Sorry, the command is not available in this version: syntax on) as well as set syntax=on (completely ignored)
[12:20] <bloony> ok
[12:20] <roy> Pici I am new Where do I put this /topic?
[12:20] <bloony> sweet
[12:20] <Pici> roy: right where you just typed
[12:20] <crolle17> can you please tell me how to force vim to make syntax highlighting?
[12:21] <Pici> crolle17: I believe you need to install vim-full
[12:21] <skarab> crolle17: enable not on
[12:21] <skarab> crolle17: so, try :syntax enable
[12:21] <orgthingy> wow! i just realized that ubuntu has bittorrent client :P
[12:21] <moldy> hi
[12:21] <traubisoda> hi all
[12:21] <angor> hiho
[12:21] <romrider> Hi all, probably a really quick question I set my hostname with 'hostname newname.com' and it works until I reboot... what is changing it back?
[12:22] <moldy> what do i need to tweak in order to be able to access the cups web interface from remote hosts?
[12:22] <gogeta> orgthingy yea but its kinda basic i use azures
[12:22] <crolle17> Pici, alright. i install vim-full, right now.
[12:22] <xianai> arnath: it works for me :(
[12:22] <gogeta> orgthingy for its safepeer ip blocker
[12:22] <GhamsteR> #ubuntu-gr
[12:22] <crolle17> skarab, i will try it.
[12:22] <orgthingy> azures for linux?
[12:22] <arnath> xianai: :<
[12:22] <gogeta> orgthingy yep
[12:22] <arnath> xianai: you using gutsy?
[12:22] <xianai> arnath: I am using debian ,sorry
[12:22] <xianai> :)
[12:22] <skarab> crolle17: otherwise, you need the full package
[12:22] <arnath> xianai: in my syslog, i get "mount request from unknown host"
[12:22] <gogeta> orgthingy its in apt-get as well
[12:23] <traubisoda> could somebody help me how to update gcc? apt doesn't work
[12:23] <suemeee> romrider, set hostname in /etc/hostname
[12:23] <xianai> arnath: but I think it may not be so much diff
[12:23] <romrider> thanks suemeee
[12:23] <jrib> !hostname > romrider (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:23] <orgthingy> how can i download this wine program thing! i went to there syt but its complicated to download for linux!
[12:23] <xianai> arnath: then? no hints for errors?
[12:23] <crolle17> skarab, Pici yeah the full package did it.
[12:23] <gogeta> orgthingy sudo apt-get install wine
[12:23] <gogeta> orgthingy then winecfg
[12:23] <jrib> traubisoda: why do you want to update it and to what?
[12:24] <arnath> xianai: nop, just that :s
[12:24] <johannes> Big problem here. I need to print out a pdf, but "evince" just gives me a white window. I tried other apps from the repository with "pdf" in their name, but they can't print for some reason. What is wrong with my evince?
[12:24] <Niteye> i installed ATI catalyst drivers, and now desktop effects (wobbly windows, fade-outs) no longer work because compiz says "No whitelisted driver found"
[12:24] <traubisoda> i want to update it to 4.2.3. cut i want to install vmware
[12:24] <skarab> is there anything besides /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward i need to enable in the kernel to allow packet forwarding between two interfaces
[12:24] <Pici> Niteye: ask in #compiz-fusion about how to whitelist your driver.
[12:25] <jrib> !vmware > traubisoda (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:25] <xianai> arnath: there can be another reason, though it does not happen very often
[12:25] <brunodisk> ida
[12:25] <brunodisk> dia
[12:25] <gogeta> Niteye you try reenabling restreted
[12:25] <arnath> xianai: which is?
[12:25] <traubisoda> okay thx
[12:25] <orgthingy> gogeta: didnt understand!
[12:25] <ashfaq> Is their a way I get voice chat in gutsy? I mean like yahoo messenger or google talk!
[12:25] <Niteye> restreted?
[12:25] <suemeee> ashfaq, nope
[12:25] <xianai> arnath: that is your newly forked nfs daemon process gets killed for some reason
[12:25] <gogeta> orgthingy sudo apt-get install wine from the term windows
[12:26] <scrillaz> hmm that would have been neat though to get voice
[12:26] <gogeta> orgthingy when its all installed type wincfg to set it up
[12:26] <arnath> xianai: and how do i see if thats the case? (or how do i fix it?)
[12:26] <ashfaq> suemeee: You mean , just not possible? why?
[12:26] <orgthingy> so what should i do?
[12:26] <gogeta> orgthingy ?
[12:26] <traubisoda> i tried but it doesn't work:S
[12:26] <arnath> xianai: if i change /etc/exports, should i restart nfs somehow? if so -> how?
[12:26] <bloony> how can I make a extra drive in wine? like "d:" and then link it to a folder?
[12:27] <gogeta> orgthingy thats pretty clear instreucions
[12:27] <Caleb_Estartes> Woo, lots of people.
[12:27] <orgthingy> i just realized it!
[12:27] <orgthingy> :P
[12:27] <gogeta> orgthingy lol
[12:27] <orgthingy> sorry
[12:27] <ashfaq> I was advised gizmo but when downloaded it gave error wrong architecture, my machine is 64 bit amd
[12:27] <orgthingy> ty
[12:28] <xianai> arnath: for me, it is /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[12:28] <gogeta> ashfaq just install the 32 bit libs so your pc can run 32 bit programs
[12:28] <xianai> arnath: and you do need to restart or reload
[12:28] <fjfalcon> how can i see syslog from terminal ?
[12:28] <Downix> bah, 32-bit is so 1993.....
[12:28] <Caleb_Estartes> So, I hate to be so totally up front... but anyone feel like dealing with a pretty dumb question?
[12:29] <Downix> Caleb_Estartes, Shoot.
[12:29] <gogeta> Downix lol not alot of 64 bit apps out there
[12:29] <Pici> fjfalcon: its in /var/log/syslog  use your favorite pager or editor
[12:29] <suemeee> ashfaq, google doesn't provide their talk client for linux and there is only one program that claims to work wih gtalk -- psi
[12:29] <fjfalcon> Pici, i want to see it online...
[12:29] <ashfaq> gogeta: Please help how do I do that! help me with the command so that I paste in terminal, Pl
[12:29] <Pici> fjfalcon: online?
[12:29] <Downix> gogeta:  I've run pure 64-bit on one of my Linux machines since 1994.  Admittedly, it doesn't *have* a 32-bit mode....
[12:29] <suemeee> ashfaq, but I never got it to work for me
[12:29] <arnath> xianai: hmm, is it possible because i'm mounting as root? (i read something bout root_squash or something)
[12:29] <orgthingy> gogeta: and where do i get apt-get install ?
[12:30] <fjfalcon> Pici, i mean when it updated, automaticly show it in terminal
[12:30] <gordonjcp> Downix: SPARC64?
[12:30] <Pici> fjfalcon: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:30] <Caleb_Estartes> Well, I'm trying to set up a LAMP server that allows people to punch in my server's IP into a web browser or an FTP client, enter their username and password, and upload/download.
[12:30] <gogeta> Downix acully it does but thers a preformance hit
[12:30] <ashfaq> gogeta: what is psi?
[12:30] <fjfalcon> Pici, thank you
[12:30] <Downix> gordonjcp, That was my old Alpha.  I have a SPARC now too.
[12:30] <gordonjcp> ah
[12:30] <johannes> Help.
[12:30] <Caleb_Estartes> I think I've got most of it done - I've installed and configured most things.  Apache, this PHP thingy...
[12:30] <xianai> arnath: restart your nfs server and try again, man
[12:31] <arnath> xianai: its working now (after ir estarted the nfs-kernel-server)
[12:31] <Downix> gordonjcp, So when I hear "I just went 64-bit" I'm going "Join the party, we ran out of dips a few years back tho..."
[12:31] <xianai> arnath: OMG
[12:31] <xianai> arnath: so simple......
[12:31] <lkthomas> guys, anyone using 64bit system with 4G of ram ?
[12:31] <arnath> xianai: yup :p
[12:31] <arnath> xianai: well, the manual mount is working, now i gotta get the automount working
[12:31] <Downix> lkthomas, Yes, why do you ask?
[12:31] <ashfaq> suemeee: so don't have any option
[12:31] <Caleb_Estartes> Downix:  Sorry, a bit new to IRC.  ~.~;
[12:31] <lkthomas> Downix: the speed of installation are way too slow
[12:31] <Downix> Caleb_Estartes, No worries, we all were at one time.
[12:31] <arnath> xianai: not sure how to do that
[12:32] <Downix> lkthomas, Which CPU/chipset?
[12:32] <lkthomas> Downix: response speed are so slow as well
[12:32] <lkthomas> Downix: core2quad, 4G RAM, intel board
[12:32] <xianai> arnath: well, I am not familiar with automount......., I do not use it
[12:32] <arnath> xianai: its autofs
[12:32] <ashfaq> The mike does not work in virtual box guest windows xp 64 bit
[12:32] <gogeta> sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[12:32] <Downix> lkthomas, would help if you had a proper 64-bit CPU.  On the core and core2's I found the 32-bit version was a lot faster.
[12:32] <xianai> arnath: yeah, not with autofs also :P
[12:32] <johannes> Where can I get help with evince, the document viewer?
[12:33] <traubisoda> still doesn't work
[12:33] <lkthomas> Downix: well, I want to know why am I getting slow response speed
[12:33] <Downix> lkthomas, From Intel, only the Xeon seems to have even a halfway decent 64-bit mode.
[12:33] <gogeta> that lets a 64 bit run 32 bit apps
[12:33] <arnath> xianai: o
[12:33] <Downix> lkthomas, Because your CPU doesn't handle 64-bits properly
[12:33] <suemeee> ashfaq, use skype :)
[12:33] <lkthomas> Downix: for 32bit version, I can't map all 4G RAM even PAE mode is on
[12:33] <Caleb_Estartes> Downix:  So basically, I've got most everything installed I beleive.  I've configured apache to point people into the /etc/phpmyadmin/ directory when they ftp into my server.  But I'm trying to make it where they are asked for a username/password and sent to a user directory.
[12:33] <ashfaq>  gogeta:  I will try that
[12:33] <Downix> lkthomas, So it has to do twice the work to get the same job done.
[12:33] <xianai> arnath: but I think it's straight forward :)
[12:34] <ashfaq> suemeee:  have you tried it?
[12:34] <xianai> arnath: why not put it in your fstab
[12:34] <arnath> xianai: how does fstab react when the mount is not available? (cause its on a laptop)
[12:35] <dooglus> which package contains the sun java6 plugin binary?
[12:35] <suemeee> ashfaq, yes  but you can't talk to someone on gtalk   It's skype to skype :)
[12:35] <gogeta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790 more info
[12:35] <void^> !info sun-java6-plugin
[12:35] <Downix> lkthomas:  try with the 32-bit version, you'll see a dramatic speed difference
[12:35] <dooglus> void^: it's empty
[12:35] <ubotu> sun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:35] <lkthomas> Downix: I don't need to try, I am switching from 32bit to 64bit, you don't get the point
[12:36] <dooglus> void^: "size 1 kB", see?
[12:36] <traubisoda> jrib still doesn't work
[12:36] <johannes> Cool, thanks for your support everyone!
[12:36] <lkthomas> Downix: the point is 4GB RAM can't allocate on 32bit version
[12:36] <jrib> traubisoda: what did you do exactly that did not work?
[12:36] <dooglus> void^: it has: Depends: libasound2, libgcc1, libx11-6, libxext6, libxi6, libxp6, libxtst6, sun-java6-bin (= 6-03-0ubuntu2), firefox | iceweasel | mozilla-firefox | iceape-browser | mozilla-browser | epiphany-browser | galeon | konqueror | midbrowser | xulrunner - but none of those sound like they contain plugins
[12:36] <traubisoda> the doc you sent
[12:36] <ashfaq> suemeee: I will check it out, although!
[12:36] <Moduliz0r> Um, yeah
[12:37] <traubisoda> all of the packages are up to date
[12:37] <jrib> traubisoda: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Downix: heh
[12:37] <Moduliz0r> Can someone explain to me why Ubuntu has just been "removing ubuntu-desktop" when I removed mplayer+xine?
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Downix: I need to fire up my Alpha some time
[12:37] <ashfaq> gogeta: Its done, now will gizmo get installed?
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Downix: and try and remember the VMS system password ;-)
[12:37] <xianai> arnath: during boot time, if it takes too long for non-existing mounting point just Ctrl^C
[12:37] <void^> dooglus: it seems the plugin is part of sun-java6-bin. i guess the -plugin package just creates a few symlinks.
[12:37] <xianai> arnath: LOL
[12:38] <Moduliz0r> Well it's a prompt to reinstall Ubuntu
[12:38] <Moduliz0r> DAMNIT
[12:38] <gogeta> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790 more info on getting 32 bit to run on a amd 64
[12:38] <Moduliz0r> BADBADBAD
[12:38] <Downix> lkthomas, I have 4GB on my old 32-bit system.  Depends on your northbridge
[12:38] <dooglus> void^: ok, I'll look in there
[12:38] <beb^^arad> question : I try to install ubuntu 7.10 from an usb cdrom wich is not able to boot, the alternate distr. , anyone has a clue wich /dev is the USB cd-rom or I must to install some drivers ?
[12:38] <Downix> gordonjcp, Alpha was good for the day, but I'm now focused on the SPARC because, well, I can license the sucker.
[12:38] <gogeta> shfaq you can try
[12:38] <suemeee> Moduliz0r, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. It just depends a bunch of packages  looks like mplayer/xine is one of them
[12:38] <dooglus> void^: my reason for asking is that I run the mozilla version of firefox, not the ubuntu package, and I need to link to the java plugin in my profile
[12:39] <Caleb_Estartes> Downix:  I'll head to that classroom thingy - I'm sure you're swamped.
[12:39] <Downix> Caleb_Estartes, You can say that again
[12:39] <gogeta> beb^^arad tell your bios to boot from a usb device that might work
[12:39] <xianai> arnath: but I had to say that nfs is not designed for large mount of file transfers
[12:39] <gogeta> beb^^arad or chane your boot order most are det as hd first
[12:39] <void^> dooglus: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so which is part of sun-java6-bin
[12:39] <Caleb_Estartes> Downix:  Hehe.  I'm pretty sure I can figure my problem out - I just need a direction to go in first.
[12:40] <fanf> hello
[12:40] <dooglus> void^: that's exactly what I was looking for.  thanks.
[12:40] <arnath> xianai: is there an alternative...?
[12:40] <fanf> I have a pb with the last fglxr driver ( 8.42.3 )
[12:40] <dooglus> void^: this marks a first for me - I asked something vaguely tricky in #ubuntu and got a prompt, correct, helpful response!
[12:40] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: try in #apache or #php or whatever whatever language you feel like doing it in :)
[12:41] <gogeta> beb^^arad lol
[12:41] <Downix> dooglus:  heh, I still haven't gotten my question from yesterday answered.
[12:41] <gogeta> dooglus: void^ ?
[12:41] <xianai> arnath: If you are using kde, KIO slave makes nearly all apps transparent for sftp or ftp access
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Downix: I'm still on 32-bit, but then I always did prefer the VAX architecture
[12:41] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici:  Thanks. :D
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Downix: what was your question?
[12:41] <arnath> xianai: gnome
[12:41] <dooglus> Downix: I have hundreds of unanswered questions
[12:41] <suemeee> dooglus, After all #ubuntu is the largest channel on Freenode :)
[12:41] <xianai> arnath: oh, it's a pitty :)
[12:41] <void^> dooglus: there's a lot of noise in this channel, so if you ask tricky questions it's a little unlikely someone who knows the answer happens to see it :/
[12:42] <dooglus> void^: I guess so
[12:42] <gusty> 哈哈，大家好
[12:42] <fanf> everything works fine execpt the switch user : I works the fisrt time, ans the second one, I get a black screen
[12:42] <Pici> !zh | gusty
[12:42] <ubotu> gusty: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:42] <beb^^arad> gogeta , is a laptop , acer 382. normally he comes with a fire wire cd-rom , wich is no more. I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows, cd approach.
[12:43] <eko_hermiyanto> wow
[12:43] <_Nixon_> âñåì ïðèâåò
[12:43] <eko_hermiyanto> I can send prn files into printer and it gets print
[12:43] <_Nixon_> Êàê äåëà?
[12:43] <eko_hermiyanto> by using ftp
[12:43] <eko_hermiyanto> :D
[12:43] <xianai> ubotu: I speak chinese
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i speak chinese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <xianai> haha
[12:43] <xianai> :D
[12:43] <_Nixon_> Ëþäè
[12:43] <_Nixon_> ÐÓññêèå!!!
[12:43] <Downix> gordonjcp, nothing major, just trying to figure out how to set up a second network.  Using my new UltraSPARC as a Linux VirtualServer.
[12:43] <dooglus> void^: this is what I needed to do: ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[12:43] <beb^^arad> gogeta : i cannot have a bootable device , other than hdd
[12:43] <xianai> But I do not know your encodings, LOL
[12:44] <gogeta> beb^^arad well a usv cd rom should show up as a normel boot device i would check the order have hd as last
[12:44] <gogeta> beb^^arad what abought a floppy drive
[12:44] <void^> dooglus: sounds about right :)
[12:44] <xianai> arnath: then what is your purpose using nfs
[12:44] <beb^^arad> gogeta : have to buy one, on usb of course :)
[12:45] <arnath> xianai: i have to be able to access some drives across the network? :|
[12:45] <gogeta> beb^^arad did you try the cd approch
[12:45] <gogeta> oh yea no floppy
[12:45] <flithm> hey does anyone in here use qterm or pcmanx to connect to bbs'es?
[12:45] <beb^^arad> gogeta : try approach yes. the cd image does not work at all , or sometginh is wrong there
[12:46] <gogeta> beb^^arad does it support usb booting maybe you can use a flashdrive
[12:46] <beb^^arad> gogeta : path or something. I'm beginner eith these stuff
[12:46] <RickJones> good morning, does anyone know what package in needed to open file type ' *.eml' ?
[12:46] <suemeee> Guys Firefox 2.0.0.9 released :)
[12:46] <fanf> nobody find this bug ?
[12:46] <gogeta> beb^^arad im saying use a pendrive to boot the system if you support usb booting
[12:47] <neil_d> I am looking for an gtk+ example on how to attach an accelerator to a image button, can anyone help ?
[12:47] <beb^^arad> gogeta the pc is from 2004 . i will try .
[12:47] <pulseezar> can anyone help me to get my mic working?
[12:47] <gogeta> beb^^arad most from 200+ support this
[12:47] <fanf> fglxr 8.42.3, AIGLX etc OK, but second "fast user switch" => black screen
[12:48] <beb^^arad> gogeta .. not acer ... they dot have either bios update
[12:48] <xianai> arnath: I mean if your not doing sth strictly conforms to unix file system semantics, why not ftp or smb
[12:48] <neil_d> pulseezar: have you enabled the mic boost setting ?
[12:48] <pulseezar> i'm not sure, where can i find it?
[12:48] <gogeta> beb^^arad have you tryed the grub for dos approch
[12:48] <xianai> arnath: they are simple
[12:48] <arnath> xianai: samba wasn't working from my linux systems (it was from windows) and now i finally changed all my systems to linux, i wanted to try nfs
[12:49] <neil_d> pulseezar: in the preferences for the volume control.
[12:49] <beb^^arad> gogeta .. i tried only tghe cd approach and cd image approach
[12:49] <jonpv> does anyone know if there is a kernel on the alternate cd that doesn't have PAE (physical address extension) enabled? i am trying to install 7.10 on a machine where PAE causes problems
[12:49] <xianai> arnath: then ftp or sftp?
[12:49] <beb^^arad> gogeta but there  as i figure out, nowhere is written how vmlinuz, i supose, mount the .iso file.
[12:50] <arnath> xianai: haven't set those up yet, not sure how easy they are
[12:50] <gogeta> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[12:50] <void^> arnath: sshfs is probably much more convenient than nfs, especially if you want to access several filesystems on a host and/or the connection isn't reliable
[12:50] <pulseezar> i can't see that option
[12:50] <beb^^arad> ok
[12:50] <gogeta> thats a automated way of doing this
[12:50] <beb^^arad> let see :)
[12:50] <pulseezar> volume control-edit-preferences is where i'm at
[12:50] <arnath> void^: will look into it
[12:51] <neil_d> pulseezar: open the 'Volume control' select 'Edit->Preferences' and select the 'Mic Boost' then click OK
[12:51] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i burn a cd?
[12:51] <Cyber_Stalker> !write
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about write - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <Cyber_Stalker> !burn
[12:51] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:52] <RickJones> does anyone know how to open eml files with 7.10 ?
[12:52] <xianai> arnath: void^: , yeah, some other stuff using fuse will also work
[12:52] <Caleb_Estartes> Hmm, question, should I use vsftp or mod_ftp?
[12:52] <pulseezar> mmmm i definitely don't have that option...
[12:52] <gogeta> beb^^arad http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora even more destiledguide
[12:53] <ja-nonnerd> vsftpd
[12:53] <beb^^arad> gogeta .. im reading right now . i give a try and tell you right away !
[12:53] <RickJones> Cyber_Stalker,  sudo apt-get install k3b
[12:53] <Caleb_Estartes> ja-nonnerd:  Do you know if they have a channel for vsftpd?
[12:53] <Cyber_Stalker> RickJones: but nautilus cd burner is already installed?
[12:54] <RickJones> Cyber_Stalker,  you asked how to burn indicating maybe you needed help, i suggested k3b because it's fat, and simple, and one of my favorites to use
[12:54] <Downix> I wish Ubuntu supported my old SPARC32
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks RickJones :P
[12:54] <RickJones> Cyber_Stalker, not fat, i mean fast
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> RickJones: ill use it
[12:54] <ja-nonnerd> Caleb_Estartes, nfi bro
[12:54] <Cyber_Stalker> RickJones: yay for 25mb download
[12:54] <xianai> arnath: void^: I'd still say, KDE's KIO-SLAVE is the most conv.
[12:55] <Cyber_Stalker> 12 minutes
[12:55] <Cyber_Stalker> grrrr
[12:55] <bloony> where is the startup script located?
[12:55] <arnath> void^: btw, nfs is working now, its autofs that i can't get working
[12:55] <Caleb_Estartes> ja-nonnerd:  Haha, okay...  don't suppose you know how you make vsftpd ask an end-user logging in for a login/password, do ya?
[12:55] <RickJones> Cyber_Stalker,  i forget not every one has 12 mb cable
[12:55] <DAC1138> is aiglx enabled by default in gibbon?
[12:56] <RickJones> !eml file extension
[12:56] <mjbrooks> sigh  Gutsy is ignoring my ALT-SPACE even after a reboot
[12:56] <Cyber_Stalker> RickJones: :P some of us are from south africa on a 138dsl line that has a max speed of 30kb/s and is limited to only 3gigs of data transfer per month, mines actually limited to 2
[12:56] <Cyber_Stalker> 2 gig*
[12:56] <RickJones> i was unaware k3b was 25 meg
[12:56] <DAC1138> Cyber_Stalker, i hear ya
[12:56] <neil_d> RickJones: 25 milli bits ?
[12:56] <DAC1138> Cyber_Stalker, coming from america, imin australia now. i've never seen a bandwidth cap until now
[12:56]  * RickJones sighs
[12:57] <RickJones> i was unaware k3b was 25 Mb
[12:57] <Cyber_Stalker> DAC1138: aus also cap ?
[12:57] <RickJones> edit : MB
[12:57] <lkthomas> Downix: did you use 64G PAE support ?
[12:57] <gogeta> beb^^arad thers also wabi ubunti that that uses the xp partation and boot loader
[12:57] <DAC1138> Cyber_Stalker, yeah. but not as bad as you guys. we get something like 8GB a month with 50kb/sec download cap
[12:57] <void^> xianai: kio-slave/gnome-vfs solutions only work for software that supports it, so it's a little limited..
[12:58] <Downix> lkthomas:  IIRC yes.  I gave up on the Core series awhile back tho for bad performance
[12:58] <Cyber_Stalker> DAC1138: ours isnt capped at 30kb/s its just the network is in shambles
[12:58] <lkthomas> Downix: I think it is a bug
[12:58] <Cyber_Stalker> DAC1138: its all set up by ppl who have no idea what they are doing so the exchanges just FREAK OUT
[12:58] <lkthomas> Downix: after enabled 64G PAE, my system can't boot up
[12:58] <kandinski> is anyone here a Basque speaker? I am writing about Ubuntu for a newspaper and have no way to check if the Basque translation is good, bad or average
[12:58] <Downix> lkthomas, oh fun.
[12:58] <DAC1138> Cyber_Stalker, what happens when you reach your limit of downloads?
[12:58] <Downix> lkthomas, The whole core series is a bug
[12:58] <lkthomas> Downix: it said no buffer space
[12:59] <Cyber_Stalker> DAC1138: most ip's hard cap you (bye bye internet)
[12:59] <bloony> DAC1138: I just moved to australia to.. used to no cap from norway aswell..
[12:59] <void^> arnath: with nfs you can use mount option 'bg'
[12:59] <Downix> hmm
[12:59] <Cyber_Stalker> DAC1138: im soft capped so my speeds are limited to about 10kb/s or less
[12:59] <scragar> I've only noticed my cap since branson took over, before my net would be fantastic, now I'm lucky to get 500kb/s
[12:59] <DAC1138> Cyber_Stalker, if we hit our limit they just slow down your internet to slow speeds, that's all
[12:59] <s00p> morning
[12:59] <frojnd> Hello there. Does anyone here has ati drivers sucessfully installed but he/she can't get compiz to work? I can't enable any of Visual effects. I get note: Desktop effects could not be enabled. Here is my xorg.conf output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43016/
[12:59] <arnath> void^: which does?
[12:59] <DAC1138> bloony, odd isnt it? i didnt download a lot when i had unlimited, but it just scares me that i wont be able to get updates if i need them (ie, my system crashes and i need a kernel upgrade)
[12:59] <mjbrooks> hmmmm compiz seems to be the thing that's eating my ALT-SPACE shortcut
[12:59] <xianai> void^: that's true, but for most time it's enough :)
[13:00] <Cyber_Stalker> frojnd: #compiz-fusion
[13:00] <void^> arnath: try to mount on boot, if it fails (server/network not available), try remounting in background
[13:00] <jones-> hello
[13:00] <lkthomas> Downix: does ubuntu got PAE pre-compiled kernel ?
[13:00] <xianai> arnath: bg == If  the  first  NFS  mount  attempt  times out, retry the mount in the background
[13:00] <arnath> void^: you mean for fstab?
[13:00] <jones-> I have a wireless card based on the RT2561 and is not working in Gutsy. Can anyone help? I've tried anything I could think of.
[13:00] <void^> arnath: yes
[13:01] <bloony> DAC1138: yeah its so anoying.. and the offpeak and onpeak thingy..
[13:01] <m11> hello
[13:01] <Downix> don't know, I never use a pre-made kernel
[13:01] <DAC1138> bloony, it's also odd having my friends on the other side of the planet. i have to stay awake all night just to say hi to them
[13:01] <Cyber_Stalker> bloony: wats that?
[13:01] <xianai> arnath: for whenever you want a async mount
[13:01] <DAC1138> bloony, never heard of offpeak onpeak
[13:01] <bloony> hehe
[13:02] <bloony> I can download 20gb onpeak and 40 gb offpeak
[13:02] <bloony> offpeak is between 2 am to 12 noon or something
[13:02] <DAC1138> bloony, oh, peak hours of the day
[13:02] <DAC1138> i get it
[13:02] <bloony> yupp
[13:02] <xianai> arnath: that means you do not need autofs, and besides, maybe you need "soft" option also
[13:02] <DAC1138> heh, i never heard of it because they also didnt do the same in the USA
[13:03] <bloony> DAC1138: what are you doing here?
[13:03] <bloony> not in norway either...
[13:03] <arnath> xianai: what does soft do?
[13:03] <DAC1138> bloony, im going to school in march. university.
[13:03] <bloony> DAC1138: kk where at? im in perth
[13:03] <Cyber_Stalker> 77% [11 kdebase-bin 560170/1282kB 43%]                            46.1kB/s 2m4s
[13:04] <Cyber_Stalker> hey 41kb
[13:04] <Cyber_Stalker> !
[13:04] <Cyber_Stalker> yay
[13:04] <DAC1138> bloony, alice springs
[13:04] <void^> arnath: "soft" and "intr" are very useful with nfs, otherwise you might end up having to reboot your system when you forget to unmount the share and get disconnected from the server.
[13:04] <DAC1138> bloony, NT
[13:04] <bloony> yeah
[13:04] <bloony> k
[13:04] <bloony> cool
[13:04] <xianai> void^: you are typing fast :)
[13:05] <gogeta> Cyber_Stalker 2347.42kb/s
[13:05] <mancaubuntu> netlex.homelinux.org
[13:05] <Cyber_Stalker> gogeta: i ency you
[13:05] <gogeta> :-D
[13:05] <Cyber_Stalker> envy*
[13:05] <suemeee> xianai wants to learn typing from void^ :)
[13:05] <arnath> void^: options: rsize=24576,wsize=24576,timeo=14,intr,bg,soft
[13:05] <arnath> void^: good?
[13:06] <xianai> suemeee: yeah~~, that's true, LOL
[13:06] <gogeta> Cyber_Stalker fios ownez you
[13:06] <lirakis> i have a quick question.  Im running Ubuntu Feisty.   I accidentally deleted my "system tray" from my panel.. and i cant figure out how to get it back... can any one give a pointer on how to do that... i dont see it in "add to panel"
[13:06] <Cyber_Stalker> Fetched 25.9MB in 11m29s (37.6kB/s)
[13:06] <xianai> suemeee: I am NOT  a native english speaker
[13:06] <DAC1138> bloony, looking for work right now, or else i'll have to wait 6 months doing nothing
[13:06] <void^> arnath: yes
[13:07] <gogeta> Fetched 1.9gb in 2m1s
[13:07] <erUSUL> lirakis: it is there it is called notification area
[13:07] <DAC1138> bloony, there's a company here that wants to hire me as a web designer, but for them to sponsor me will take another 2 months, so it will be after christmas until i can work
[13:07] <gogeta> :-D
[13:07] <skarface> does btdownloadcurses load settings from anywhere?
[13:07] <bloony> DAC1138: hehe sounds nice to me :) if you can afford it :) probably some work in restaurants if you dont have any special education?
[13:07] <bloony> DAC1138: aah yeah
[13:07] <xianai> xianai: I can typing in a lightening speed, if you can speak chinese, haha
[13:08] <Cyber_Stalker> K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.
[13:08] <Cyber_Stalker> Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some
[13:08] <ghatak> i have an old intel card using i810 driver. I just upgraded to gusty, but i can not see desktop effects in prefrences, can i enabled it somehow ?
[13:08] <xianai> suemeee:  I can typing in a lightening speed, if you can speak chinese, haha
[13:08] <DAC1138> bloony, they cant pay me money for work, but they did talk about in exchange getting me some computer hardware or new computers
[13:08] <gogeta> Cyber_Stalker i got fios 20/20 fiber
[13:08] <arnath> void^: xianai : it's working now, thanks :) now just hope it still works well when i reboot without a connection :p
[13:08] <DAC1138> bloony, so i might take them up on that offer and have them get me a new laptop
[13:08] <lirakis> erUSUL: ah great! thanks
[13:08] <pike_> Cyber_Stalker: 'apt-cache search k3b mp3' and install that package
[13:08] <Cyber_Stalker> RickJones:
[13:08] <xianai> arnath: ur welcome, and good luck, man
[13:08] <xianai> arnath: :D
[13:08] <bloony> DAC1138: aah sweet :D
[13:09] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks pike_
[13:09] <Cyber_Stalker> life saver
[13:09] <arnath> void^: xianai :one small question -> my usb drive on my server does not always mount, sometimes it mounts as disk-1, other times it doesnt mount (its not in fstab) anything i can do about it?
[13:09] <bloony> DAC1138: what are you gonna study?
[13:09] <suemeee> xianai, :) I can't type any other language and I am super sloppy at english too :D
[13:09] <b0ha> how can i check what version of kernel do i have
[13:09] <moldy> cups takes forever and a day to generate its ssl cert -- can i somehow access the admin pages over plain http, or speed up the cert generation?
[13:09] <arnath> void^: xianai i mean on boot
[13:09] <DAC1138> bloony, new media, which entails video and radio broadcasting. i'm in it for the video production
[13:09] <pike_> b0ha: uname command so uname -a or uname -r or whatnot
[13:09] <moldy> also, it is not using much cpu time... is it even proceeding at all?
[13:09] <b0ha> thank you pike_
[13:09] <Ubuntu> hi
[13:10] <xianai> arnath: you mean the  usb drv not gets mounted during boot time?
[13:10] <monkeyBox> When I type ls -al,  it doesn't sort hidden directories first.  How do I control that?
[13:10] <Ubuntu> hi
[13:10] <arnath> xianai: indeed, well it does sometimes, and not on other times
[13:10] <jrib> DAC1138, bloony: hi, we like to keep #ubuntu for support only.  Mind moving the conversation over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[13:10] <xianai> suemeee: //hand
[13:10] <bloony> jrib: yupp.. sorry :)
[13:11] <Madoo> hi
[13:11] <Madoo> i need sum help guyz
[13:11] <gogeta> !ask
[13:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:11] <Snoopy^-^> name hacker
[13:12] <Madoo> any1???
[13:12] <xianai> arnath: if you have no entry for usb in /etc/fstab, it will not be mounted
[13:12] <gogeta> !ask | Madoo
[13:12] <ubotu> Madoo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:12] <arnath> xianai: it sometimes automounts :s
[13:12] <Madoo> i need sum help guyz
[13:12] <Pici> Madoo: just ask.
[13:12] <gogeta> !ask | Madoo
[13:12] <Madoo> ????????//
[13:12] <xianai> arnath: then you know who is doing the mount job?
[13:12] <amd432> Madoo: explain your problem
[13:13] <void^> xianai: i've tried learning a little chinese, but it's really too difficult :-)
[13:13] <Madoo> helloooooo
[13:13] <gogeta> !troll
[13:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:13] <Madoo> i need sum help guyz
[13:13] <gogeta> stop trolling
[13:13] <dennda> How to find out whether or not my kernel is using CONFIG_NO_HZ right now? (powertop suggests enabling it)
[13:13] <humbolto> how do I share printers between ubuntu machines? I have enabled printer sharing as well as, "show printers of other systems" but I don't see nothing.
[13:13] <xianai> void^: yeah, it is totally different from latin series :D
[13:14] <arnath> xianai: not a clue
[13:14] <gordonjcp> !ask | Madoo
[13:14] <ubotu> Madoo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:14] <Madoo> ok thanx
[13:14] <gogeta> man like 5 people tolf you that
[13:14] <jonah> hey guys, latest azureus update gives me this error: Installing plugin azupnpav, version 0.1.7
[13:14] <jonah>     Data verification stage complete
[13:14] <jonah> Version 0.1.7 of plugin 'azupnpav' failed to install - /usr/share/azureus/plugins/azupnpav/azupnpav_0.1.7.zip (Permission denied)
[13:14] <jonah> can anyone help me out installing it?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> gogeta: yeah, but they weren't me ;-)
[13:15] <xianai> arnath: not a clue ? well, in that case , just pray every time you boot :P
[13:15] <gogeta> jonah might need to run azures via sudo for updates
[13:15] <gogeta> jonah normaly that what that error means
[13:15] <Madoo> when i try 2 install any software on ma laptop ,,,it says "cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."
[13:15] <void^> jonah: you should find the update in /tmp, so you can copy it in manually with sudo
[13:16] <arnath> xianai: well its sorta nasty, cause im sharing /media/disk, but to mount it myself the map /media/disk must exist, but IF it auto mounts, it sees that /media/disk already exists and mounts it to /media/disk-1, so i have to unmount and remount properly
[13:16] <xianai> arnath: well it seems its HAL
[13:16] <void^> arnath: usb disks are automounted by hal+gnome-mount.. that's a bit of magic there i don't really know much about :]
[13:16] <gogeta> Madoo amd64?
[13:16] <jonah> void, hang on though, do you normally have to run it with sudo, are my permissions wrong or something?
[13:16] <Olde> I have too many options to boot from. I just want to be able to boot into version 7.10. is there anyway I can fix this?
[13:16] <arnath> void^: problem is, it only mounts 50% of the time
[13:17] <DAC1138> so is aiglx enabled in gibbon by default?
[13:17] <Madoo> waddo u mean gogeta ??
[13:17] <xianai> arnath: my HAL is always buggy in debian
[13:17] <Madoo> im new tothis stuff lol
[13:17] <gogeta> Madoo your pc a amd 64
[13:17] <humbolto> does anybody know how to share printers in gutsy with cups?
[13:17] <void^> arnath: that's probably a matter of timing, ie how fast you log in :/
[13:17] <humbolto> is that even possible?
[13:17] <Madoo> i dont get it ??
[13:17] <Madoo> umean 64 bit ?
[13:17] <arnath> void^: thats.............messed up :|
[13:17] <gogeta> Madoo yep
[13:17] <Madoo> no
[13:17] <amd432> maddler, what processor does your computer have?
[13:17] <xianai> arnath: I have to download the source code and brutely remove some code , recompile it and it work for me now :D
[13:17] <Madoo> its 32
[13:17] <arnath> void^: so probably not a good idea to add it to fstab as well then?
[13:17] <arnath> xianai: dammit :<
[13:17] <gogeta> Madoo the app a 64 bit
[13:18] <Garbage> hello all
[13:18] <void^> jonah: to update a systemwide-installed file you need root privileges.
[13:18] <Madoo> u mean that i can never install it
[13:18] <Garbage> I have a question regarding HP Laptop
[13:18] <stillWithFiesty> how can i upgrade OOo in fiesty to OOo2.3?
[13:18] <jonah> void, so running azureus as sudo will work?
[13:18] <gogeta> Madoo 32 bit pcs cant run a 64 bit app
[13:18] <arnath> void^: xianai i also worry that nfs will start @ boot, but the usb drive might not be there, so after i manually mount usb drive, i have to restart nfs or...?
[13:18] <Madoo> noo
[13:18] <Olde> help
[13:18] <void^> jonah: copying the file with sudo will work.
[13:18] <gogeta> Madoo but you can probly find a 32 bit version
[13:18] <stillWithFiesty> jonah: you really want azureus?
[13:18] <Garbage> anyone there for Installing Ubuntu on HP Laptop ???
[13:18] <bloony> what is the alt-tab thingy called in compizconfig??
[13:19] <Madoo> i have a laptop and a PC both 32 bits,,,in ma PC they worked but not on da PC
[13:19] <dennda> Garbage: specify your question
[13:19] <gogeta> Madoo i dont knoe any 64 bit apps that dont have a 32 bit compile
[13:19] <Madoo> not on da Laptop **
[13:19] <Olde> I have too many options to boot from. I just want to be able to boot into version 7.10. is there anyway I can fix this?
[13:19] <Garbage> I have a HP dv6000 series Laptop
[13:19] <Madoo> look
[13:19] <arnath> void^: well i'm gonna reboot and give it a try
[13:19] <Madoo> fro example
[13:19] <Garbage> I can't istall Ubuntu on it
[13:19] <void^> arnath: yes, probably. nfs only exports single filesystems anyway, so you have to add (and mount) an nfs export for your usb mountpoint. might be easier to disable automounting in gnome/hal and go with a fixed mountpoint and fstab entry
[13:19] <xianai> arnath: Good luck man :)
[13:19] <jonah> stillWithFiesty, it's not so much i want it, i already have it and it gets good speeds for me
[13:19] <Madoo> i go 2 the terminal and try 2 install Beryl
[13:19] <whatspy> hi, my CDROM drive keeps flashing and won't open, the CDROM icon is neither on the desktop nor in "Computer", how can I fix that, maybe reinstall drivers
[13:20] <richard> Hi, anyone know of issues regarding the new ATI driver?
[13:20] <Madoo> it duznt workkk?
[13:20] <gogeta> Madoo gusty?
[13:20] <amd432> Garbage, what are the specs of the laptop?
[13:20] <arnath> void^: but disabling automount in hal, will also prevent other things from being automounted right? (like usb stick, camera...)
[13:20] <arnath> xianai: i'll need it :p
[13:20] <bloony> what is the alt-tab thingy called in compizconfig??
[13:20] <Madoo> no feisty
[13:20] <gogeta> Madoo beryl is dead and gusty has compiz fusion
[13:20] <nils__> acker
[13:21] <Garbage> AMD Turion 64x2
[13:21] <Madoo> im a Feisty
[13:21] <stillWithFiesty> jonah: hmm... yeah i guess the speed factor is a plus. but i stuck with bittorrent because it simply works better...
[13:21] <Garbage> nVidia GeForce 7150
[13:21] <void^> arnath: well, it can be configured on a per-device basis i think, so you can disable it for a specific disk or specify a fixed mountpoint for a disk, but i don't really know how
[13:21] <Olde> Madoo, are you running a 32 or 64 bit system
[13:21] <MasterShrek> so i want to stop ubuntu from upgrading my kernel through apt as i am using a custom kernel, anyone know how to do that?
[13:21] <sladen> ssokolow: normally usplash is rendering a 256 colour image onto a 16-bit framebuffer
[13:21] <Madoo> 32
[13:21] <arnath> void^: ah, the how was gonna be my next question, damn :p
[13:21] <wastrel> oh look at that
[13:21] <Olde> ok, you gotta run 32 bit apps on it
[13:21] <stillWithFiesty> can i upgrade openoffice to 2.3 without getting gutsy?
[13:21] <gogeta> Madoo sounds like its downloading the 64 bit package if its saying failed wrong arc type i386
[13:21] <Olde> 64 is basically double what you're trying to install
[13:21] <Madoo> ok i did but they didnt work dude
[13:22] <xianai> arnath: no  disabling HAL itself, many other things depend on HAL , just disable a policy line of HAL but that also maybe tooooo complex for you
[13:22] <Garbage> I can't install Feisty Fawn on it'
[13:22] <gogeta> Madoo you cant run 64 bit on a 32 bit pc you need he 32 bt pakcages
[13:22] <Olde> which app are you trying to use Madoo
[13:22] <arnath> xianai: most likely, i guess there's no nice cli/gui interface for it?
[13:22] <Madoo> mado@mado-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[13:22] <Madoo> Reading package lists... Done
[13:22] <Madoo> Building dependency tree
[13:22] <Madoo> Reading state information... Done
[13:22] <Madoo> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[13:22] <Madoo> mado@mado-laptop:~$
[13:22] <Pici> !paste | Madoo
[13:22] <ubotu> Madoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:22] <Olde> that means either...
[13:22] <Madoo> wat is hat
[13:22] <Olde> that package doesn't exist, or you haven't updated your repositories
[13:23] <amd432> Garbage, are you getting an error?
[13:23] <xianai> arnath: no, at least, I never found one :P
[13:23] <stillWithFiesty> ok... found a link... thanks anyway
[13:23] <Garbage> yeh
[13:23] <amd432> Garbage, whats the error?
[13:23] <gogeta> Madoo isnt it video lan
[13:23] <Madoo> yea
[13:23] <Madoo> even codecs duznt work
[13:23] <Olde> Madoo, did you update your repository list
[13:23] <Madoo> !!
[13:23] <gogeta> Madoo lol
[13:23] <cinch> Hi - could someone help me get Desktop Effects running on a Radeon Mobility 7500? I followed the FAQ and it didn't work for me.
[13:23] <gogeta> Madoo i can tell you why
[13:23] <Madoo> i think i did
[13:24] <gogeta> Madoo festy didnt incld
[13:24] <gogeta> Madoo festy didnt include all that stuff gusty does now
[13:24] <Garbage> Macrocode loading failed
[13:24] <Olde> System<Admin>software sources
[13:24] <xianai> arnath: but I guess that if you put that in fstab will be ok
[13:24] <Garbage> I don't remember exact error message
[13:24] <Madoo> so i shuold update 2 a Gusty
[13:24] <arnath> xianai: im looking into gnome-mount atm, it might help
[13:24] <Olde> yep
[13:24] <Madoo> i have 7.04 Feisty
[13:24] <gogeta> Madoo well thats the offical one now
[13:24] <Olde> update to 7.10
[13:25] <Madoo> ok
[13:25] <Garbage> and No Screens Found
[13:25] <xianai> arnath: no idea about gnome-XXX, i am a kde boy :D
[13:25] <Olde> Gutsy's a little easier to work with too man
[13:25] <Garbage> I think it's bcoz my Processor is 64 bit
[13:25] <Madoo> ok
[13:25] <gogeta> i coulda swore all the 7.06 got 7.10 via system update
[13:25] <Pici> gogeta: incorrect.
[13:25] <xianai> void^: where are you from, buddy?
[13:25] <amd432> Garbage, you can run 32 bit on a 64, thats what im running
[13:25] <Olde> can someone help me with a booting issue please
[13:26] <gogeta> heh well i had 7.10 beta soo
[13:26] <Madoo> wadda FUDGEEE
[13:26] <Madoo> Your system is up-to-date
[13:26] <Madoo> There are no upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled.
[13:26] <Evanlec> Garbage, yea 32 or 64 bit has nothin to do with that error
[13:26] <Garbage> amd432: so, what to do now ??
[13:26] <Madoo> i have 7.04 !!111
[13:26] <Garbage> then ??
[13:26] <void^> xianai: germany
[13:26] <albech> anyone done the patch-o-matic patch?
[13:26] <Garbage> Is it bcoz nVidia drivers ??
[13:26] <Olde> Madoo, do the upgrade then
[13:26] <gogeta> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[13:27] <Evanlec> Garbage, most likely
[13:27] <albech> im trying to figure where the new options appear in the kernel config
[13:27] <Madoo> k
[13:27] <Garbage> then ???
[13:27] <monkeyBox> Should trackerd be taking up all 100% of my CPU?
[13:27] <amd432> Garbage, download ubuntu 7.10 and see if it works for you, if not write down the error msgs you get and report them here
[13:27] <monkeyBox> (ie, is that normal?)
[13:27] <Garbage> I can run Sabayon
[13:27] <Olde> there's over 1000 packages to update, so it'll take awhile Madoo
[13:27] <Garbage> with compiz
[13:28] <Olde> took me over an hour with my poor little 1.33 GHz processor :(
[13:28] <bloony> what is the alt-tab thingy called in compizconfig??
[13:28] <Garbage> Don't Ubuntu come with nVidia Drivers ??
[13:28] <Madoo> oh lol
[13:28] <Evanlec> Garbage, no
[13:28] <Madoo> my PC iz 7.10,,,its pretty good
[13:28] <wastrel> compile
[13:28] <Evanlec> Garbage, and sabayon is not free is it?
[13:28] <Olde> Garbage, you can use the restricted drivers if you wish
[13:28] <Garbage> :-( tooo sad
[13:29] <Olde> but they're proprietary, so Ubuntu doesn't support upgrades for those
[13:29] <xianai> void^: I've heard that dutch is also hard to learn compared to english, is that right? :)
[13:29] <Garbage> Evanlec: it is !!
[13:29] <Madoo> when i go to the update manager,,,,it says ma system iz up 2 date !!
[13:29] <Pici> Madoo: what does lsb
[13:29] <Garbage> but I'm on Dial-up
[13:29] <Pici> Madoo: what does lsb_release -a say ?
[13:29] <Olde> yes Madoo, for 7.04
[13:29] <Garbage> and can't download it's DVD version
[13:29] <Olde> Gutsy is 7.10
[13:29] <arnath> void^: xianai just rebooted, usb did not mount automatically and, quite nasty, when i tried to access the (then offline) nfs partitions, my laptop just froze, i couldnt even access ctrl+alt+F1
[13:30] <Garbage> and CD version comes with KDE.. I love Gnome
[13:30] <nazullia> i'm wondering how i should update to a 64bit kernel when i'm now on a standard gutsy?
[13:30] <Pici> nazullia: you need to reinstall.
[13:30] <Evanlec> nazullia, you cannot upgrade, u must clean install
[13:30] <qwerty121> how can i sync my nokia 5200 with Gutsy? connecting it with the usb doesn't mount it...
[13:31] <nazullia> oh bah :-(
[13:31] <Olde> qwerty121 do you use gnokia
[13:31] <qwerty121> Olde: nope
[13:31] <qwerty121> Olde: where to get it?
[13:31] <void^> xianai: i don't know dutch, but it's quite similar to german (i can often figure out the meaning).. and english is probably the easiest language ever, at least for those natively speaking some latin/germanic language =)
[13:31] <Olde> it's a package that's available.
[13:31] <xianai> arnath: God, seems like a terror,......
[13:31] <Madoo> ohh
[13:31] <Olde> I'm still half new to this myself.
[13:32] <Madoo> it duznt work
[13:32] <jonpv> i need help installing an alternate ubuntu 7.10 kernel - i need to use a kernel that doesn't use PAE
[13:32] <Olde> but I know there's a connection package called gnokia for connecting Nokia phones to your system
[13:32] <void^> arsenip: accessing a disconnected nfs mount blocks until the timeout is reached.. you should be able to kill the process though, and lowering timeo should help. but like i said, for these usecases sshfs is just more convenient ;)
[13:32] <Pici> jonpv: Only the server kernel uses PAE iirc.
[13:33] <qwerty121> Olde: tyoing gnokia in add/remove app says: nothing found
[13:33] <xianai> void^: he is offline
[13:33] <Olde> qwerty121 you don't have it installed then.
[13:33] <Olde> apt-get install gnokia
[13:34] <Madoo_> any1 here
[13:34] <Olde> how do you edit how many versions of Ubuntu you can boot from in grub?
[13:34] <xianai> void^: yeah, that is the main diff between CJK and latin
[13:34] <Madoo_> 2 ? :D
[13:34] <Madoo_> :S
[13:34] <Piddy> I need help.. My screen resolution is really messed up, and System Settings > Monitor & Display doesn't work
[13:34] <qwerty121> Olde: same prob again in terminal, too. do you have it installed?
[13:35] <Olde> no, I used it when I had a nokia phone. got motorola now
[13:35] <xianai> void^: so your gonna say that again when he is online again
[13:35] <eko_hermiyanto> hello
[13:35] <eko_hermiyanto> good afternoon
[13:35] <Piddy> Anyone know what to do?
[13:35] <qwerty121> Olde: then, how did you install it?
[13:35] <eko_hermiyanto> I have ubuntu and microsoft windows on my machine
[13:35] <eko_hermiyanto> is it possible to run that windows on top of my ubuntu?
[13:35] <eko_hermiyanto> both of them have different partition
[13:36] <Olde> I was still using 6.10 when I had it. might be an outdated package.
[13:36] <eko_hermiyanto> but I think it's useful to be able to run that windows on top of my ubuntu
[13:36] <eko_hermiyanto> because my ubuntu is my default operating system
[13:36] <Evanlec> eko_hermiyanto, no u cannot run them both at the same time...
[13:36] <riderrr> i have a graphics card that handles dual monitors (ATI Radeon RV 100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]) and tried to follow the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 and the thread it links to but this still did not work.  Can anyone help please?
[13:36] <Olde> qwerty121 check your repositories. might need to use some older backdated updates. it might be in there.
[13:36] <qwerty121> they are checked. Olde
[13:37] <Gts> ciao ragazzi ho scaricato un tema per gnome come lo utilizzo
[13:37] <Olde> could be the package is obsolete then.
[13:37] <Pici> !it | Gts
[13:37] <ubotu> Gts: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:37] <jonpv> Pici: where can i find documentation on the different ubuntu kernel install packages, then?
[13:37] <nietopereek> hi
[13:37] <moldy> cups does not accept my username/password even though i am a member of the "lpadmin" group -- what am i missing?
[13:37] <eko_hermiyanto> Pici, my old problem with rpn files have been solved. thanks bro
[13:37] <eko_hermiyanto> :D
[13:37] <nietopereek> how to install nvidia on freespire 2.06? someone know
[13:38] <Pici> eko_hermiyanto: how did you print them?
[13:38] <qwerty121> Pici: is there any package to sync nokia phones?
[13:38] <Olde> I guess there's no way to edit out older versions of ubuntu in grub then?
[13:38] <eko_hermiyanto> pici, I sent them all to the printer by using ftp :D
[13:38] <Pici> qwerty121: I dont know, sorry.
[13:38] <Pici> eko_hermiyanto: ooh, good idea
[13:38] <Evanlec> nietopereek, this is for the ubuntu distribution..
[13:39] <nietopereek> Evanlec: sry freespire based on ubuntu, i need help
[13:39] <eko_hermiyanto> pici, and all of them are printed nicely. what a beautiful day :D
[13:39] <Rug> Howdy all
[13:39] <Pici> nietopereek: Freespire is still not Ubuntu.
[13:39] <qwerty121> freespire based on ubuntu? o_O
[13:39] <Evanlec> nietopereek, what? freespire based on ubuntu? dont they have a support channel?
[13:39] <pike_> nietopereek: but id recommend doing a google search for like nvidia ubuntu latest
[13:39] <dv_> how do i speed up the mouse pointer?
[13:39] <Evanlec> actually there's a buncha distro's based on ubuntu
[13:39] <Pici> jonpv: I'm not sure... I'd try looking on the wiki.
[13:39] <nblracer> I have an older machine, would ubuntu 6.06lts be beter then 7.10
[13:40] <Olde> Pici, is there a way to delete out old Ubuntu installs on my IA32 system without crashing it?
[13:40] <Pici> nblracer: Probably.  You could also try Xubuntu 7.10
[13:40] <ja-nonnerd> dv_, xset m 10
[13:40] <Piddy> Help, I need to fix my screen resolution.
[13:41] <Evanlec> nblracer, yes i would recommend Xubuntu 7.10
[13:41] <Evanlec> !resolution | Piddy
[13:41] <ubotu> Piddy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:41] <Madoo_> Hi
[13:41] <Olde> wb Madoo
[13:41] <Madoo_> iz Olde here ??
[13:41] <xianai> void^: debian is from German right? very cool, the kde in ubuntu is buggy like a hell
[13:42] <Madoo_> yea i
[13:42] <Madoo_> hi
[13:42] <Madoo_> so,,,
[13:42] <Madoo_> my updates dont even work mann !!
[13:42] <K-4U> Great. my update to 7.10 failed. and now i can't start ubuntu: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) How to solve this WITHOUT reinstalling ubuntu?
[13:42] <Madoo_> me 2
[13:42] <void^> xianai: i don't think so, but the kde project was started in germany ;)
[13:42] <nblracer> Evanlec i will have to read up on it, Thanks, Btw the computer is a 1.8 ghrz centron 512mb ram, 40gb 5400rpm HDD
[13:42] <Evanlec> i dont know why it is that everyone and their brother decided it was a good idea to make yet another linux distribution...why dont they just join up with an existing team? if we all combined our efforts, we could have some really good distros
[13:42] <Pici> Olde: Remove the old kernels via your favorite package manager, they should update grub accordingly.
[13:43] <arnath> void^: xianai how can you reload an nfs mount? i have "stale NFS file handle" as error
[13:43] <Olde> Pici, I'm still sort of a newb at this...explain please?
[13:43] <Olde> just use synaptic then?
[13:43] <Evanlec> yes
[13:43] <Pici> Olde: exactly.
[13:44] <Olde> and that'll pull out the older kernels?
[13:44] <Madoo_> Olde: my synpatic duznt even install anything
[13:44] <c0ntr4> Ubuntu / Debian sucks balls
[13:44] <Olde> Madoo, do you have a solid LAN line?
[13:44] <xianai> arnath: wait for its timeout
[13:44] <ja-nonnerd> Evanlec, well feel free to gather some people and make a really good distro
[13:44] <Pici> !language | c0ntr4
[13:44] <Olde> or dialup?
[13:44] <ubotu> c0ntr4: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[13:44] <xianai> void^: oh, that's cool
[13:44] <K-4U> my update to 7.10 failed. and now i can't start ubuntu: Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) How to solve this WITHOUT reinstalling ubuntu?
[13:44] <Madoo_> yea,,im usin ma wireless LAN
[13:44] <Caleb_Estartes> Help!  My server is rejecting attempts at an FTP connection.
[13:44] <Olde> Madoo, straight or through a router?
[13:44] <arnath> xianai: i set the timeout to 60 seconds... :|
[13:44] <Evanlec> ja-nonnerd, no im not gona start another one, last thing anyone needs is another damn distro, but if i was a programmer i'd join the ubuntu team probably
[13:44] <Caleb_Estartes> Haha, man that sounds too vague...
[13:44] <xianai> void^: I stick to kde
[13:45] <arnath> xianai: those are looong since past
[13:45] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: turn on the ftpd :)
[13:45] <Madoo_> through an access point
[13:45] <dellph> hello ppl.
[13:45] <Pici> !enter
[13:45] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:45] <Olde> Madoo, if the access point is firewalled, you might not be able to update. I suggest borrowing a friend's hardline.
[13:45] <xianai> arnath: and after that try to mount again ?
[13:45] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p: How do I do that?  Only thing I could think of was /etc/init.d/vsftpd start
[13:46] <Olde> plug into their internet connection and update that way
[13:46] <dellph> is there any program that will monitor your laptop if a certain heat of cpu achive it will shutdown the laptop?
[13:46] <Madoo_> i also have an Adsl,,,i can connect ma laptop 2 it
[13:46] <Olde> Madoo, try connecting to that instead then
[13:46] <xianai> arnath: you may reduce your timeout num just as void^ said
[13:46] <arnath> xianai: still the same (im just doing mount -a btw)
[13:46] <Olde> Wireless isn't reliable like that.
[13:46] <Madoo_> i tried
[13:46] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: Dump that and install proftpd
[13:46] <Madoo_> its the same mann
[13:46] <Evanlec> dellph, your computers bios should shut the computer down if it senses dangerous heat levels
[13:46] <Pici> Madoo_: What happens when you try to upgrade? Do you get an error?
[13:46] <Madoo_> yea
[13:47] <Pici> Madoo_: What does the error say?
[13:47] <Madoo_> it sayz ma system iz already updates
[13:47] <arnath> xianai: i could just leave it out of fstab alltogether, but that means i'll have to manually mount it everytime i want to use it
[13:47] <Olde> Madoo, only other thing I can think to do is burn off a copy of 7.10 to CD and update that way.
[13:47] <Madoo_> updated**
[13:47] <dellph> evanlec: i did not see any config in my laptop dell 1420n :(
[13:47] <Pici> Madoo_: How are you trying to upgrade?
[13:47] <arnath> xianai: compounded to the fact that i have to manually mount it on the server computer as well, this is getting tiresome
[13:47] <Madoo_> ok
[13:47] <Madoo_> from the pdate manager
[13:47] <Evanlec> dellph, you typically wouldn't, its in the BIOS settings
[13:47] <Olde> Pici, he's on a wireless
[13:47] <c0ntr4> Pici your nickname is in Czech the plural form of "vagina", and you still write some notice about my language?
[13:47] <Pici> Madoo_: Did you follow the instructions that ubotu provided?
[13:47] <Pici> Olde: It shouldnt matter.
[13:48] <Olde> even if his access point is firewalled off? ok
[13:48] <Pici> c0ntr4: My name is made up, I dont speak any czech.
[13:48] <Madoo_> no i didnt Pici
[13:48] <c0ntr4> Pici is a very vulgar word in Czech
[13:48] <dellph> evanlec: i went to the bios seeting a did not see any option there.
[13:48] <xianai> arnath: and just as void^ suggested , you may have a try of sshfs
[13:48] <void^> arnath: well, this is why nfs is a pain in unrelaible/adhoc/wireless networks. it's just not designed for these things. you can try umount -f to force-unmount, may have to kill any accessing processes first..
[13:48] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Hmm, okay.  Lessee if I can find it.  New to this stuff, so..
[13:48] <Evanlec> lol
[13:48] <Pici> !upgrade | Madoo_
[13:48] <ubotu> Madoo_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:49] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: apt-get remove vsftpd; apt-get install proftpd
[13:49] <arnath> void^: its just, ive been reading about sshfs, but it is sort of a patch solution no? its using one protocol to do something that it was not originally designed to do?
[13:49] <c0ntr4> Pici ok and I don't speak in English :-D I'm not sure if some word is too rude or too polite, because I hear the words very often in the great movies
[13:49] <Evanlec> dellph, thats because Dell doesnt want you to see any advanced options in bios, but believe me, the logic is there
[13:49] <arnath> void^: whereas nfs is specifically designed for sharing files, so it would seem like the more logical solution
[13:49] <Olde> alright. off to play with synaptic. thanks Pici, and Evanlec
[13:49] <Evanlec> Olde, welcome
[13:49] <xianai> arnath: as long as you have fuse in kernel , I think sshfs is easy to setup
[13:49] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p: Alrightyo, doing.
[13:50] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: I have been fighting Linux since 1993 :)
[13:50] <arnath> xianai: can it also be fstabbed?
[13:50] <yonilevy> Q: In gnome's, there's the "CD/DVD creator" directory, which allows me burning a cd/dvd using simple file dragging. I want to be able to perform the same action from command line. Is there a way to figure out the command line used by that? (I know cdrecord and mkisofs, I just don't wanna mess with the details, since "cd/dvd creator" already figured them out for me)
[13:50] <xianai> arnath: sure
[13:50] <void^> arnath: nfs is for a file server. it's nice if you have a large local network and dozens of systems accessing your file server.
[13:50] <r21> -last5
[13:50] <John_R> http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/30/in-depth-roadmap-analysis-for-ubuntu-hardy-heron-804/
[13:50] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Haha, I think the only reason I'm as far as I am is b/c of MS-DOS 15 years ago. :p
[13:51] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: I went from Commodore to Mac.. Linux was always a hobby on the side. Now it's what I do for a living.
[13:52] <xianai> arnath: nfs keep local buffers for file data on your client machines, and periodically sync with server, so if your network is unstable, the entiree session is stale
[13:52] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Awesome, its definitely fascinating me, I admit.  I'm toying with Ubuntu as is.
[13:52] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Okay, so I've got it installed.  I'm going with the inetd setup.
[13:52] <qwerty121> John_R: pretty cool writing. is the ubuntu team listening?
[13:52] <arnath> xianai: annoying
[13:52] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: no not inetd
[13:52] <arnath> xianai: and all that because i have an external drive :|
[13:52] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Since I've only got three or four people connect to it to test some stuff out.
[13:52] <s00p> Just let it run
[13:52] <moldy> how does one add printers to cups on ubuntu server? help! :(
[13:52] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Oh.. I shall remove it, then. :D  And reinstall.
[13:52] <s00p> It won't eat resources when idle
[13:52] <John_R> it is this guy's rundown of what he's hearing from the developers
[13:53] <John_R> check out this
[13:53] <John_R> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/02/1217248
[13:53] <moldy> is the webinterface completely broken on ubuntu? i cannot log into it no matter what i try...
[13:53] <John_R> it has a link to the full article
[13:53] <John_R> can't wait
[13:53] <Madoo_> how much time would it take me 2 update 2 7.10
[13:53] <John_R> im not going with gutsy, too buggy
[13:53] <wastrel> gusty
[13:53] <John_R> hardy heron sounds promising though
[13:53] <bosworth> Hi. Where can I find info on drivers for mobile phones. I've searched google extensively, but I can't find a driver so I can connect from Feisty to my HTC s710 phone, running Windows Mobile 6.
[13:53] <moldy> "no authentication data provided" appears in the logs, but i do provide a valid username/password via http, and that user is a member of the lpadmin group
[13:53] <{nathan}> I have about 300 songs in their album folders. I want to move them all one directory back, making them all in the same folder. Is there a fast way to do this so I don't have do go into each folder separately?
[13:53] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: We are all Linux at my company.  In the office it's Windows but I use Ubuntu instead since my job doesn't require Windows. Lots of Mac users here, too.
[13:53] <Evanlec> !enter | John_R
[13:53] <ubotu> John_R: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:54] <qwerty121> John_R: well, for me GG is the best yet
[13:54] <wastrel> moldy: the web interface is turned off by default iirc
[13:54] <Madoo_> lol
[13:54] <John_R> this is not questions/responses, it is a conversation
[13:54] <John_R> :)
[13:54] <Pici> !offtopic | John_R
[13:54] <ubotu> John_R: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:54] <moldy> wastrel: the interface is running, but it won't let me add printers
[13:54] <jrib> {nathan}: cd to the music directory and issue: mv */* .
[13:54] <John_R> !lamethingswithquestionmarksfromguyswholiveinmomsbasement
[13:55] <{nathan}> jrib, yeah, I just figured that out. Thanks though.
[13:55] <wastrel> moldy: right, the "administrative" web interface is disabled, yo ucan't authenticate or do anything.  you can call up the page
[13:55] <gogeta> riderrr the ati 7000 only supports the oss drivers and unfortanly i dont think they have dule mode support
[13:55] <xianai> arnath: yeah, it is in an "all or nothing" style, so....
[13:55] <moldy> wastrel: ahhh.... grrrr. can i enable it?
[13:55] <wastrel> some fiddling in the configfile can fix that but i forget what it is.
[13:55] <gogeta> riderrr i used to have 1
[13:55] <moldy> wastrel: thanks. what a crap... why isn't that even documented :(
[13:55] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Sorry, I'm at work myself, getting interrupted occasionally.
[13:56] <wastrel> moldy: it's part of the "no services running by default" thing i believe
[13:56] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: where do you work?
[13:56] <Lugos> quit cu
[13:56] <wastrel> http://www.google.com/search?q=enabling+cups+administrative+web+interface+ubuntu   moldy   good luck :]
[13:56] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p: Heheh, at a college.  Help desk. :p
[13:56] <gogeta> !oggtopic
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oggtopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: I work at DivX
[13:56] <gogeta> !offtopic
[13:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:56] <moldy> wastrel: thanks
[13:57] <gogeta> s00p LOL
[13:57] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p: Argh, if I uninstall and reinstall it, it doesn't give me the option to reset it.
[13:57] <gogeta> s00p i work for amazon
[13:57] <s00p> gogeta: thats funny?
[13:57] <qwerty121> can someone tell me what this tracker search tool is for?
[13:57] <s00p> gogeta: why did you "lol" when I said that?
[13:57] <gogeta> 2 .com employes in 1 room
[13:57] <s00p> oh hahaha
[13:57] <gogeta> thats funny
[13:57] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p: Totally read that as 'Direct X' for some reason.  I was about to beg you to make DX10 work on XP. :p
[13:58] <s00p> no I don't use Windows :)
[13:58] <gogeta> you said windows
[13:58] <gogeta> !windows
[13:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[13:58] <John_R> windows belongs in a vm
[13:58] <Pici> qwerty121: Its for indexing your files so that you can search for them.
[13:58] <gogeta> windows belongs in the trash bin relly the case with vista
[13:58] <qwerty121> Pici: but it doesn't work for me?
[13:58] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Hmm, lemme see if I can find out how to remove this inetd thing...  I think I may have royally screwed up.
[13:58] <s00p> how is tracker compared to spotlight on os x?
[13:58] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: you dont need to remove inetd
[13:58] <Pici> s00p: I've never used OSX
[13:59] <arnath> when ubuntu boots, the background is always that "light brown"-ish color, can i make it dark? cause its a stark contrast with my wallpaper/layout in general
[13:59] <qwerty121> Pici: is there something to do b4 it gets started
[13:59] <gogeta> OSX OWNEZ!!!
[13:59] <s00p> just use proftpd as a daemon
[13:59] <gogeta> i have a old g3 imac with it
[13:59] <smegomatic> osx isn't bad
[13:59] <Pici> qwerty121: It needs to index your system before you can start using it.
[13:59] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:59] <brahmamurti> osx? is that some kind of new game?
[13:59] <wastrel> gogeta: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:59] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  I'm not sure I know how to do that. -_-
[13:59] <moldy> wastrel: adding cupsys user to shadow group seems to have done it, thanks... that should be documented somewhere prominent...
[13:59] <g-hennux> hi!
[13:59] <s00p> just install proftpd and you can edit /etc/proftpd.conf
[13:59] <wastrel> moldy: make a wiki page ;]
[13:59] <gogeta> fine fine ill shuffup
[14:00] <qwerty121> Pici: how can i make it index ma files?
[14:00] <c0ntr4> *buntu/deb is a piece of horseshit
[14:00] <s00p> man we may have more fires in san diego :(
[14:00] <moldy> wastrel: it should be written in big red letters on cups' admin pages IMHO :)
[14:00] <xianai> arnath: for file access , ftp is the most commonly used method, are you sure you really need to access files on spot instead of download-modify-upload ?
[14:01]  * dgjones thinks Pici is very alert, faster than a speeding ops call :)
[14:01] <s00p> I installed xbill :)
[14:01] <Pici> dgjones: I have a few choice words on hilight :)
[14:01] <smegomatic> lol
[14:01] <arnath> xianai: well that would be preferable yes
[14:01] <gogeta> xiana acully samaba is
[14:01] <moldy> pretending that you can use some functionality that actually is disabled is a ui nightmare
[14:01] <void^> arnath: system->administration->login window in gnome for the background colour.
[14:01] <Caleb_Estartes> I feel so helpless... -_-
[14:01] <dgjones> Pici, I bet
[14:01] <xianai> arnath: I mean remote file access
[14:01] <Pici> qwerty121: It should start doing it automatically, check System>Preferences>Indexing to make sure that it is.
[14:01] <arnath> void^: thanks a lot, can't believe i missed that setting :)
[14:02] <arnath> xianai: i just rebooted and wrote a small script to mount the usb, but i still get the stale nfs error?
[14:02] <gogeta> dgjones pci=e is faster then a dule core overclocked
[14:02] <gogeta> hehe
[14:02] <qwerty121> Pici: thanks
[14:02] <arnath> xianai: wouldn't reboot clean the nfs cache?
[14:02] <xianai> arnath: did you umount ?
[14:03] <arnath> xianai: prior to reboot, yes
[14:03] <s00p> I plugged in an external drive with an NTFS partition but Ubuntu won't mount it :(
[14:03] <smasterross> Hey guys, just wanted some input on a idea I have. Could I use MT Grid Service to sell online storage?
[14:03] <xianai> arnath: which machine you reboot ? the client machine or the server machine?
[14:03] <smasterross> That only $20 per 100GB
[14:03] <gogeta> s00p it should unless it flaged dirty
[14:03] <arnath> xianai: client
[14:04] <wastrel> smasterross: ooooooooofftopic  #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:04] <wastrel> :]
[14:04] <arnath> xianai: cache is on the server? :|
[14:04] <s00p> gogeta: I saw it was flagged dirty so I repaired it on my xp station
[14:04] <gogeta> :)
[14:04] <s00p> but Ubuntu still refused to mount it
[14:04] <Madoo__> hey gogeta,,,are very goood @ computers
[14:04] <eko_hermiyanto> how's there
[14:04] <eko_hermiyanto> I have installed swat on my ubuntu system
[14:04] <gogeta> s00p normaly you gotta let it repire then reboot into windows again to get flagged cleane
[14:04] <eko_hermiyanto> but do not know how to use it
[14:04] <eko_hermiyanto> I have tried to open my firefox
[14:05] <s00p> hmmm
[14:05] <idefix> with the new version of Firefox I cannot login to a site I used to be able to login to
[14:05] <idefix> what could be the matter?
[14:05] <eko_hermiyanto> and typing 192.168.0.78:900
[14:05] <eko_hermiyanto> but get no result
[14:05] <s00p> what do you mean gogeta?
[14:05] <xianai> arnath: I am not quite sure about that, but for a session, it means the status of both sides.
[14:05] <s00p> hey gogeta what do you do at amazon?
[14:05] <eko_hermiyanto> 192.168.0.78 is my ip
[14:05] <arnath> xianai: very well, i shall reboot the server as well
[14:05] <Pici> eko_hermiyanto: Try connecting to 127.0.0.1:900
[14:05] <xianai> arnath: so just try to restart your nfsd
[14:05] <gogeta> s00p let chkdisk run then reboot into windows again and rebbot into linux
[14:05] <xianai> arnath: restart the nfsd is enough
[14:05] <arnath> xianai: hmm, restarting nfs-kernel-server would do the trick?
[14:05] <arnath> xianai: whats nfsd again?
[14:05] <gogeta> s00p should only have to do this once thow
[14:05] <aoirthoir> Has anyone noticed problems in GUTSY with FIREFOX....In particular sometimes when I hit certain keys (ctrl-w, ctrl-t, f11) it acts has if I had hit the key combination dozens of times..thus it closes many tabs, opens many tabs or goes full screen and back and full screen and back dozens of times...this multi key-strike issue I am having does not happen with any other apps. And it happens whether compiz is on or off...or legacy in compiz 
[14:06] <s00p> i will try that.. not dual boot.. separate xp box
[14:06] <gogeta> s00p sence it should stay clean after that
[14:06] <s00p> ok i will try now
[14:06] <eko_hermiyanto> pici, unable to connect
[14:06] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Argh.. I can't find the directory it was installed in.  When I try to start proftp is says its in the inted/xinetd folder.
[14:06] <arnath> xianai: working :D
[14:06] <xianai> arnath: when i say nfsd, i refer to nfs-kernel-server
[14:06] <arnath> xianai: thanks a bunch void^ you too ;)
[14:06] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  But I can't find that folder.
[14:06] <s00p> whaaaat?
[14:06] <xianai> arnath: ur welcome :D
[14:06] <gogeta> s00p i had to do this with my partationed drive
[14:06] <riderrr> is anyone in here familiar with lighttpd
[14:06] <riderrr> ?
[14:07] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  I'm trying to start it with:  /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[14:07] <idefix> there's no firefox channel!
[14:07] <xianai> arnath: I got to go ,so bye,buddy, good luck to you playing with your sexy ubuntu
[14:08] <s00p> paste the error, caleb
[14:08] <xianai> arnath: ;)
[14:08] <idefix> is there no firefox channel?
[14:08] <arnath> xianai: hehe, i think it's all good now :p bb & thanks again ;)
[14:08] <Madoo__> WINDOWS SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[14:08] <Madoo__> LINUX 4 LIFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee
[14:08] <Pici> !caps | Madoo__
[14:08] <ubotu> Madoo__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:08] <nblracer> hmm still debating on what ubuntu i should use. Will xubuntu have everythin ubuntu has pre installed, like openoffice. The computer is a p4 1.8ghz centron 512 mb ram 40 gb 5400rpm hdd
[14:08] <xianai> Madoo__: YOU ARE TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH !!!!!!!! MAN !!!!!!!!!
[14:08] <Madoo__> oh ok
[14:08] <Madoo__> :D
[14:08] <gogeta> Madoo__ it only sucks couse you dont knoe how to weak it at least xp
[14:08] <Pici> !language | xianai
[14:08] <ubotu> xianai: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[14:09] <xianai> BYE ALL!!!!!!!!!
[14:09] <gogeta> Madoo__ vista sucks no matter what
[14:09] <arnath> Pici: i believe "windows sucks" is allowed to be capitalized in this channel
[14:09] <Madoo__> i used it all of ma life
[14:09] <Madoo__> i changed 2 ubuntu a month ago
[14:09] <Pici> idefix: try #firefox or #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[14:09] <MasterShrek> nblracer, if it doesnt, its very easily installable
[14:09] <gogeta> lol dule boot hear mostly couse im a gamer
[14:10] <arnath> void^: the background color isnt working :s i changed it to black, but once i login and ubuntu starts loading, i still get the light brown background :<
[14:10] <nblracer> MasterShrek this is not for me, but for my parents who are not that good with computers, so i need a simple fast and clean OS
[14:10] <MasterShrek> nblracer, but with that hardware you should be able to run kubuntu or ubuntu just fine
[14:11] <gogeta> nblracer well you chose well ubuntu is noob frendly
[14:11] <nblracer> would i get a performance boost running xubuntu
[14:11] <MasterShrek> nblracer, i would give them gnome if i were you, its clean and easy to work with for people that arent extremely computer savvy
[14:11] <gogeta> nblracer a bit but knothing majer
[14:11] <gogeta> nblracer yea gnome or kde
[14:11] <smegomatic> gnome
[14:12] <gogeta> nblracer but kde is slower
[14:12] <nblracer> i love ubuntu, i have it running on an even older box, as server
[14:12] <ideasman42_> hi guys
[14:12] <MasterShrek> gogeta, how do u figure kde is slower? i beg to differ
[14:12] <nblracer> ok ubuntu it is
[14:12] <s00p> I dont like kde. Seems too busy.
[14:12] <ideasman42_> is it possible to make ubuntu a server for ical on the mac?
[14:12] <MasterShrek> kde ftw
[14:12] <smegomatic> blackice
[14:12] <smegomatic> lol
[14:12] <smegomatic> that will mess with them
[14:13] <gogeta> MasterShrek well from my experance with linux sence 96 kde has always used more ram and more system then anything else
[14:13] <rohan> is there any way to login into the gui as root in ubuntu /
[14:13] <ideasman42_> evolution-data-server says it supports icalendar but I cant see how to set it up
[14:13] <arnath> anyone know how to get rid of that light brown color that shows when you have just logged in and ubuntu is loading?
[14:13] <gogeta> rohan alt f2 gksu
[14:13] <arnath> the time when the "splash screen" shows
[14:13] <gogeta> rohan gui root
[14:13] <nblracer> one more question while it is some what quit in the channel, would it be ok to install ubuntu 6 then upgrade, or would you recomend a clean install from ubuntu 7
[14:13] <MasterShrek> gogeta, ive read many articles on kde vs gnome, and most seem to have almost exactly the same findings on both desktops, most have kde a few megs less, but they are about the same
[14:14] <Pici> nblracer: I reccoment a clean install.
[14:14] <MasterShrek> nblracer, if you have a choice a clean install is always best
[14:15] <nblracer> just dont want to download it again :P
[14:15] <jasonago> hello!!!
[14:15] <gogeta> MasterShrek well from personal experance gnome has always been faster on all my systems
[14:15] <MasterShrek> ideasman42_, probably not since ical is (im assuming) a mac program
[14:15] <nblracer> im off thanks again
[14:16] <gogeta> MasterShrek not by anything majer but enough to notce
[14:16] <smegomatic> anyway to get ubuntu to mount a ntfs raid-0?
[14:16] <s00p> You know what bugs me about KDE? The use of "K" in place of "C" in apps. Kalendar is a good example. It's dumb!
[14:16] <Pici> ideasman42_: I'd try asking about it in #evolution on irc.gnome.org , they would have a better idea about it than us.
[14:16] <MasterShrek> gogeta, ive noticed exactly the opposite on every machine ive used =P
[14:17] <LjL> s00p: so rename the menu entries :)
[14:17] <sonicdude> hi
[14:17] <s00p> LjL haha I prefer gnome's look :)
[14:17] <s00p> I use that
[14:17] <dilson> algum BR?
[14:17] <sonicdude> has anbody found a decent replacement for visio
[14:17] <rohan> thanks gogeta
[14:17] <s00p> sonicdude: try "Dia"
[14:17] <gogeta> MasterShrek i think mostly from using slightly les ram
[14:17] <Pici> !br | dilson
[14:17] <ubotu> dilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:18] <gogeta> :)
[14:18] <sonicdude> I have, i need more detailed stencils...
[14:18] <MasterShrek> =P
[14:18] <indonet> wfgwgw
[14:18] <indonet> gw
[14:18] <indonet> rg
[14:18] <indonet> r
[14:18] <indonet> rg
[14:18] <indonet> rgr
[14:18] <indonet> gr
[14:18] <sonicdude> any other ideas?
[14:18] <indonet> grg
[14:18] <gogeta> MasterShrek probly a system with more ram it might have the oppsit effect
[14:18] <sonicdude> is their anytype of stencil import function?
[14:19] <gogeta> MasterShrek sence ui beleve kde uses alot of ram to preload its apps
[14:20] <gogeta> and th channel dies
[14:20] <gogeta> zzzzz
[14:20] <smegomatic> fluxbox
[14:20] <gogeta> xfce
[14:20] <dilson> olá para todos. como dou permissão de shutdown pa usuarios? eu uso Ubuntu
[14:21] <LjL> !br | dilson
[14:21] <Pici> dilson: /j #ubuntu-br
[14:21] <ubotu> dilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:21] <dilson> #ubuntu-br
[14:21] <LjL> dilson: escribe   /join #ubuntu-br
[14:21] <Garbage> hello
[14:22] <gogeta> rawr
[14:22] <gogeta> someone needs a issue
[14:22] <gogeta> LOL
[14:22] <gogeta> im bord
[14:22] <Pici> gogeta: #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:22] <Caleb_Estartes> I've got tons of issues!
[14:23] <gogeta> yay
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[14:23] <gogeta> lol
[14:23] <Caleb_Estartes> I can't figure out why proftp isn't working proper for me.
[14:23] <gogeta> firewall?
[14:23] <gogeta> roughter?
[14:23] <Caleb_Estartes> Well, I can get a connection through a client.
[14:23] <cast> Caleb_Estartes: are you sure you should be running a ftpd :\
[14:24] <Caleb_Estartes> Like if I punch my IP into a browser, it puts me into a directory.
[14:24] <gogeta> then roughter
[14:24] <gogeta> port foward 21 to your linux ip
[14:24] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: Web browsers are not good ftp clients
[14:24] <Caleb_Estartes> But if I try to connect using an FTP client it doesn't work.
[14:24] <lzikzak> HEY
[14:24] <Caleb_Estartes> And its already forwarded, unfortunately.
[14:24] <lzikzak> can i have some help
[14:24] <gogeta> so
[14:24] <lzikzak> plz
[14:24] <gogeta> !ask
[14:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:24] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: What addressa are you trying to connect to?
[14:25] <lzikzak> i got today ubuntu for the first time how can i install
[14:25] <lzikzak> exe files
[14:25] <gogeta> hahahahaha
[14:25] <Pici> !wine | lzikzak
[14:25] <ubotu> lzikzak: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[14:25] <gogeta> short answer you cant
[14:25] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici: 141.165.208.62
[14:25] <lzikzak> thnx
[14:25] <cast> lzikzak: you don't. its a good thing, you don't want to
[14:25] <lzikzak> but i dont know how to install even that tho
[14:25] <lzikzak> they dont just click and run
[14:25] <lzikzak> how is it done
[14:25] <LjL> !software > lzikzak    (lzikzak, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:25] <ferric84> an rtfm is in order
[14:25] <Pici> lzikzak: Follow the link from Ubotu.
[14:25] <gogeta> yes they do
[14:26] <lzikzak> is there any page to learn on this
[14:26] <Pici> !rtf | ferric84
[14:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <gogeta> just diffrent methed
[14:26] <Pici> !rtfm | ferric84
[14:26] <ubotu> ferric84: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[14:26] <jrib> lzikzak: try to understand that usually you look for native linux altrnatives to your programs as ubotu's link explains
[14:26] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici:  But that just sends you to the directory I configured in Apache.
[14:26] <cast> jfgi?
[14:26] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: What happens if you try to ftp into 127.0.0.1
[14:26] <lzikzak> thnx guys
[14:26] <LjL> cast: please google that acronym if you want to know its meaning.
[14:26] <Pici> LjL: :D
[14:27] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte acully id hes using a local network he uses his roughter ip like 192.68.1.101
[14:27] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici:  Oho, it asks me for a username and password.  Except, the one I use on Ubuntu isn't working. ~.~
[14:27] <gogeta> only stuff outside your network will use isp ip
[14:27] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: Either your router doesnt support loopback connections, or your isp is blocking port 21
[14:27] <cast> oh. just fucking google it.
[14:28] <LjL> sigh.
[14:28] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte you username and pass would be whatever you set the ftp for
[14:28] <Pici> !language | cast
[14:28] <ubotu> cast: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[14:28] <Caleb_Estartes> Maybe I didn't set that, then... hm.
[14:28]  * cast sits next to LjL 
[14:28] <Pici> I think I'm wearing out my ! key today.
[14:28] <Caleb_Estartes> I'm honestly not even sure if proftpd is running.
[14:28] <wastrel> !jfgi | cast
[14:28] <ubotu> cast: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[14:28] <ArrPirate> How do I remove things from the 'Open With...' menu when I right click on something?
[14:28] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte it is if it asked that
[14:29] <wastrel> heh i need to keep up, sorry cast :]
[14:29] <Pici> wastrel: He knows, he didnt know what the acronym meant.
[14:29] <wastrel> yah
[14:29] <wastrel> read scrollback
[14:29] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte if you wanna check you can do a sudo ps -A
[14:29] <Caleb_Estartes> Alrighty, I'll do that real quick.
[14:29] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte and look for it
[14:30] <ubuntu> oi
[14:30] <Caleb_Estartes> ps -a only lists bash and ps.
[14:30] <Caleb_Estartes> ps ax gives me a huge list, with no proftp or inetd in it.
[14:30] <s00p> do ps -ef
[14:30] <ArrPirate> Does anyone know how to change what a file opens with by default?
[14:30] <teemu_> I'm going to format and install my broken XP again and I've installed Ubuntu Gutsy to get my stuff on external hd. I have two major problems with this install. 1) Browsing web is slower than with 56k modem and 2) booting takes nearly 5 minutes because all fsck root file system and file system checking. Any ideas how to fix those ?
[14:30] <gogeta> i think he can grep it to
[14:30] <s00p> ArrPirate: that nick kicks butt!
[14:31] <gogeta> ps } grep proftp
[14:31] <Hyper-cool> Hey all. I installed ubuntu about a year ago and then completely stopped using it because of driver support issues. Now I'd like to hop up to Gutsy and see how it does, but when i go to package manager/update it only lists version 7.04 as the most current. any ideas?
[14:31] <gogeta> |
[14:31] <ArrPirate> 'Cause I accidentally made it so .exe files open up with one program when I really need it to open with wine
[14:31] <ArrPirate> s00p, thanks
[14:31] <gogeta> or something like that
[14:31] <Pici> ArrPirate: right click on the file, and change the properties to open with ine.
[14:31] <Pici> !upgrade | Hyper-cool
[14:31] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici:  Yup, its not in that list.  I don't think its started at all.
[14:31] <ubotu> Hyper-cool: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:31] <Hyper-cool> thx
[14:31] <murlidhar> does anybody have experience with network manager. my host addresses have been accidently deleted
[14:32] <akonkwamubagwa> Does anyone know if there is a utility to monitor activity on a router ? (Which IP adress is downloading what, etc.) I'm using static IP addresses
[14:32] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte ps -A no sudo sorry
[14:32] <murlidhar> my downloading speed is gone slow. not to talk about browsing experience
[14:32] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte sudo then only shows al running stuff under su
[14:32] <Amine> Hello everyone, I installed ubuntu, but I have a problem with activating the visual effects, it keeps saying: Desktop Effects could not be enabled! My graphic card is:  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[14:32] <Caleb_Estartes> I know, I've tried it both ways.
[14:33] <Caleb_Estartes> What directory is this stuff in, by default?
[14:33] <Hyper-cool> ahhhh you can't skip versions.. i see. thx pici
[14:33] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte that shows all running prosses ftpd should be there
[14:33] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: Stuff?
[14:33] <gogeta> Caleb_Estarte i beleve home
[14:33] <riaal> going to reinstall my server (new) anyone thing I shall go for the latest 7.10 realease? Currently running 7.04
[14:34] <tyler_7> how do I list system specs in term? ie. hardware?
[14:34] <Caleb_Estartes> Alright, I'm really not trying to sound rude.  But I'm repeating myself:  Its 'not' in the processes.
[14:34] <Pici> tyler_7: sudo lshw
[14:34] <Caleb_Estartes> It 'shou'd be, I agree, but its not.
[14:34] <gogeta> tyler_7 lsmod lspci lsusb lol
[14:35] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: does `sudo invoke-rc.d proftpd start` give you any errors?
[14:35] <murlidhar> can anybody help me reset my LAN card??
[14:35] <Amine> Does anyone have a solution for the Desktop effects problem, please?
[14:35] <gogeta> murlidhar sudo service network restart
[14:36] <murlidhar> Amine: go on
[14:36] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici: Hmm, says it cannot start in both standalone and inetd mode.  Check my configuration.
[14:36] <rrittenhouse> Why the heck isnt Vmware in Gutsy?? :)
[14:36] <Amine> murlidhar, thanks, I installed ubuntu, but I have a problem with activating the visual effects, it keeps saying: Desktop Effects could not be enabled! My graphic card is:  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[14:36] <gogeta> Caleb_Estartes that means its running
[14:36] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: Check your configuration.  I believe theres a proftpd channel, either #proftp or #proftpd
[14:37] <Hawkins> How can I get my net working. I get 'looking up <host>' with FireFox, it takes about 1 minute and then I get to page. Everything works fine until I go to another page. Same thing again
[14:37] <gogeta> rrittenhouse it is you and install it via apt
[14:37] <murlidhar> gogeta: would that reset or restart?
[14:37] <murlidhar> gogeta: i need the default settings
[14:37] <rrittenhouse> geoaxis, sorry 64bit
[14:37] <rrittenhouse> er
[14:37] <rrittenhouse> gogeta, 64 bit
[14:37] <gogeta> murlidhar that would restart the nics
[14:37] <Caleb_Estartes> So, Pici, Gogeta... let me at least get one thing straight.
[14:37] <Caleb_Estartes> If I haven't set up any users besides the one I've installed Ubuntu under.
[14:37] <Caleb_Estartes> And if all I've done is install proftpd.
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> There is domain controller. Is it possible by using this system to be
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> able to know the state of every computers in the domain, whether they
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> alive or down, connected good to the network or not? The domain
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> controller is microsoft windows, but, I manage it using samba on my
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> ubuntu system.
[14:38] <Pici> !enter | eko_hermiyanto
[14:38] <ubotu> eko_hermiyanto: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:38] <Caleb_Estartes> Then if I punch the port/ip into an FTP client on another computer - and input my user name/password.  It -should- connect?
[14:38] <tyler_7> can I get any of that information in a readable format? looking to know how many hard drives? drive sizes? ammount of memory etc.....?
[14:38] <eko_hermiyanto> pici, i am sorry
[14:38] <Pici> Caleb_Estartes: I'm not sure, but proftpd users might be seperate from the system ysers.
[14:38] <gogeta> Caleb_Estartes i would assume so
[14:38] <RickJones> ls -a
[14:38] <jhattu> Could someone guide me with setting ownership (chown / chmod) to my external HD? I formatted it to ext3 and ubuntu mounts it automatically but I do not have the write rights to it...
[14:38] <Caleb_Estartes> Pici:  Okay, I can check on that.
[14:39] <rrittenhouse> I did a fresh install of Gutsy and VMWare isnt listed in synaptic. Im also running 64bit\
[14:39] <s00p> Pici: By default proftpd uses system accounts. If you use the mysql add-on then users are stored in a DB.
[14:39] <gogeta> Caleb_Estartes they might acully be needed to be added to the proftp groupas well
[14:39] <murlidhar> gogeta: actually my host address settings in  network manager got accidently deleted and the setting in the hosts were not manually entered by me which they probably were the default settings.
[14:39] <Caleb_Estartes> Ah crud.. I have the mysql installed.
[14:39] <Pici> tyler_7: how about `sudo lshw > ~/file.txt`  then you'll have it in a file in your home dierctory.
[14:39] <s00p> We use proftpd here and it works great. The configuration is so flexible!
[14:40] <gogeta> murlidhar if its a schp server it shuldent matter
[14:40] <murlidhar> gogeta: so i thought that maybe by resetting the whole card would solve my problem
[14:40] <psycose> rrittenhouse: seems like vmware-player is not packaged on Gutsy (also for me in 32 bits)
[14:40] <tyler_7> piki: command not found
[14:40] <murlidhar> gogeta: no it is not dhcp
[14:40] <gogeta> murlidha oh
[14:40] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  So how do I access and edit the user database from mySQL?  And will proftpd 'automatically' know to look there for user information?
[14:40] <rrittenhouse> psycose, yeah man do we just have to do it our self or what
[14:40] <murlidhar> murlidhar: i have to enter the ip address manually
[14:40] <Pici> tyler_7:No, that should work, make sure you spelled it all correctly.
[14:40] <tyler_7> caleb_estartes: in term type mysql
[14:40] <psycose> rrittenhouse: well i don't know ...sorry
[14:40] <gogeta> murlidha then you have to edit youe config back manuly
[14:41] <murlidhar> Amine: i am bit busy , sorry
[14:41] <rrittenhouse> psycose, well thank you for verifying that it isnt in 32bit :)
[14:41] <gogeta> murlidha or renun the network wizerd
[14:41] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: there is a HOWTO on the proftpd site. I have a DB schema I can send you if you cant find help. It;s pretty straightforward though. You have a users table and groups table.
[14:41] <Caleb_Estartes> tyler_7:  Access denied.
[14:41] <murlidhar> gogeta: hwo to rerun the network wizard
[14:41] <Amine> murlidhar, ok man, don't worry, thanks anyway
[14:41] <tyler_7> Caleb_Estartes: throw a sudo in there
[14:41] <kale> what do i do about someone trying to log in to my system?
[14:41] <Caleb_Estartes> tyler_7:  Same result.
[14:42] <gogeta> murlidhar it should be in the menus under system
[14:42] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Okay, I'll see what I can manage from the site.
[14:42] <gogeta> murlidhar and networking
[14:42] <s00p> kale: Either let them in or don't
[14:42] <slackman007> does anyone have the good info on using compiz with Nvidia 8300 GS with Gutsy?
[14:42] <meng> this sounds dumb, but i think the gnome panel had burned into my LCD monitor
[14:42] <kale> s00p: good advice
[14:42] <tyler_7> Caleb_Estartes: hrmmm.... thats interesting mang....  access denied?
[14:42] <Deesl> hello everyone
[14:42] <ubuntu324543534> can i use hdd as live cd
[14:43] <Caleb_Estartes> tyler_7:  Yup.
[14:43] <gogeta> murlidhar you should beable to edit your cards setting there easly
[14:43] <murlidhar> gogeta: only network setting opened
[14:43] <Deesl> will anyone please help me by telling that is there something like debian unstable tree for ubuntu ?
[14:43] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting
[14:43] <gogeta> murlidhar well good edit it then
[14:43] <LjL> Deesl: not really
[14:43] <murlidhar> gogeta: that is where i lost the settings in the hosts tab
wait for the first hardy heron alpha?
[14:43] <s00p> the only thing I wouldnt do is install phpmyadmin and do it all from the mysql CLI
[14:43] <gogeta> murlidhar well it should let you set a hotname there as well
[14:44] <gogeta> murlidhar if you slect static ip
[14:44] <Deesl> meng, well actually i am new to Ubuntu... I am more of a FreeBSD and GEntoo user... so was wondering if there is something equivalent to the CURRENT tree in FreeBSD
[14:44] <jhattu> I formatted my external HD to ext3 and now I can not write to the disk. I tried chwon but the owner is still root. Help!
[14:44] <jonah> hey guys, my internet is really flakey and i think it's cos i need to install the legacy driver for my wifi card which is rt61 chipset, can anyone please help, when i try install it i get some errors and i wondered if i needed to remove something else or something first??
[14:44] <murlidhar> gogeta: i don't know host name or it's settings
[14:44] <gogeta> murlidhar then you need to find out
[14:44] <gnr> i dont have nvidia drivers installed, yet the gfx is crisp and high res. yet when i try to install the drivers nothing happens. i need them to run dual screen... any help?
[14:45] <gnr> they wer fine in 7.04
[14:45] <tyler_7> list drives and drive size... not mounts, just drives?
 as far as i know, i have not heard of a current style tree
[14:45] <gogeta> murlidhar if its not schp
[14:45] <gogeta> dchp
[14:45] <jhattu> tyler_7: was that for me?
[14:45] <gnr> tyler_7,  u talking to me? :)
[14:45] <LjL> Deesl, there is not. there is work in progress towards the next release of Ubuntu (Hardy Heron), and you may ask for information in #ubuntu+1 - however, it's not only not yet ready for use, it just can't be used
[14:45] <Reclutador> hello
[14:45] <s00p> jonah: It's not your internet. It belongs to us all! :)
[14:45] <tyler_7> jhattu: if you know the answer then yes....
[14:45] <Deesl> right got it thanks meng and LjL
[14:46] <gogeta> murlidhar normaly on a static setup hostname can be local you just need the right ip dns and so forth
[14:46] <tyler_7> gnr: if you konw the answer then yes
[14:46] <jhattu> tyler_7:   this is the problematic drive:     /dev/sda1             230G  188M  218G   1% /media/disk
[14:46] <murlidhar> gogeta: btw it was all default when i installed ubuntu for the first time . all i did was to set the dns address , ip address , gateway address and subnet mask address
[14:46] <gnr> i do, i dont have nvidia drivers installed, but when  try nothing happens (envy doesn't work either)
[14:46] <gogeta> murlidharmurlidhar you can probly do it again
[14:46] <databuddy> !xen
[14:46] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[14:46] <s00p> LjL: Any idea when intel-hd-audio will be fixed in the kernel? :)
[14:46] <jhattu> tyler_7: it was a print of df -H
[14:46] <LjL> s00p: none
is there a way to fix the outline of my upper gnome panel being burned onto my LCD screen?
[14:47] <murlidhar> gogeta: i know all the setting above except the settings in the host tab since it was already filled in .
[14:47] <s00p> LjL: Oddly it is simply disabled in the kernel. I don't know why. All the developers had to do was enable it!
[14:47] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Thanks, lookin' over it.  And yeah, I happen to have phpmyadmin installed... I dunno if that's conflicting.
[14:47] <gogeta> murlidhar normaly that does not matter its just a name the roughter givs the pc
[14:47] <LjL> meng: uhm, get a better screen or a screensaver? =)
[14:47] <gnr> which nvidia drivers do i need? nvdidia-glx-new or nvidia-settings?
[14:47] <gnr> :o
[14:47] <murlidhar> gogeta: and the host settings were not set by me
[14:48] <codigo> Hi, i download kubuntu 7.10 32 bits and 64 bits both two and both two boot from cd and select start up, and when ubunto has to load appears a screen like the monitor doesnt work. It appears input sign, sign out of standing... energy management and a countdown, and when this countdown finishes the pc reboot. Always the same
[14:48] <LjL> gnr: nvidia-settings is not a driver
[14:48] <LjL> !nvidia > gnr    (gnr, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:48] <murlidhar> gogeta: u mean my router address
[14:48] <gogeta> murlidhar as long as the rest of the info is corect it will still acccept it
[14:48] <meng> i usually turn the monitor off in idle, but i wonder if the compiz had anything to do with it?
[14:48] <gogeta> murlidhar just leave blank it should get it back
[14:48] <murlidhar> gogeta: it is accept my internet is working but slow
[14:48] <LjL> meng, i doubt it
[14:48] <gnr> it wont let me install moth LjL (it did in 7.04)
[14:48] <gnr> both*
[14:48] <gogeta> murlidhar oh
[14:49] <Radio1> Hard drive alert:  http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/178569569/article.pl
[14:49] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: PHPMyAdmin isnt conflicting. It's just a dopey web front end for mysql.
[14:49] <gogeta> have you tryed restarting the system
[14:49] <murlidhar> gogeta: yes
[14:49] <gogeta> murlidhar slow normany means thers a confliting host na,e
[14:49] <LjL> gnr: that's because they conflict. and they conflict because nvidia-glx-new *includes* nvidia-settings
[14:49] <boingus> anyone noticing problems with Jack not providing sound in 7.10 ?
[14:50] <Pici> !offtopic > Radio1 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:50] <gogeta> murlidhar dhcp makes your life alot easer
[14:50] <gnr> then why, when i install them, does nvidia-settings not show up in the system tools menu? LjL
[14:50] <gogeta> murlidhar lol
[14:50] <Radio1> k
[14:50] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Ugh, it REALLY bothers me that I chose Inet instead of standalone, on my original install.  And can't figure out how to change it back - since 'everything' is saying to do it standalone.
[14:50] <murlidhar> gogeta: i should make it dhcp?
[14:51] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: standalone versus inetd is in the /etc/protftpd.config file
[14:51] <gogeta> murlidhar it would make it so if you lose settings again it will just put them back auto
[14:51] <s00p> also edit /etc/inetd.conf and delete the proftpd line. then restart inetd.
[14:51] <gogeta> murlidhar alot easer
[14:51] <Ljorring> Ubuntu wont boot after I put a wireless network adapter into an empty PCI slot. It hangs midways with a black screen. How do I fix it?
[14:52] <gogeta> murlidhar as long as your roghter supports it
[14:52] <LjL> gnr: i don't know, but have you tried just running it from a shell?
[14:52] <Oli``> mmm got to love a good old NAT roughter =)
[14:52] <gnr> i wouldn't know how ljl
[14:52] <s00p> This intel-hd-audio nonsense has me steamed!
[14:52] <LjL> !terminal > gnr    (gnr, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:53] <LjL> gnr: you could just try Alt+F2 and then type « nvidia-settings ».
[14:53] <Ljorring> LjL, I can succesfully boot to 'Recovery mode'. But I dont know what to do from there
[14:54] <LjL> is this the highlight-LjL-randomly fest?
[14:54] <Jonah_> oh no guys, i've killed my internet completely on my ubuntu box, still works on my mac ok - both wireless
[14:54] <LjL> i don't know anything about wireless
[14:54] <Jonah_> can anyone please help me out
[14:54] <gnr> LjL yes
[14:54] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Awesome, thanks.
[14:54] <Jonah_> i tried to install a driver
[14:54] <Jonah_> rt61
[14:54] <Ljorring> ...
[14:54] <Jonah_> because my connection on ubuntu box was flaky and would drop a lot
[14:54] <Jonah_> and from previous distros the legacy driver has worked much better than one shipped on my rt61 card
[14:54] <Ljorring> LjL, but you responded to my message
[14:55] <Ljorring> LjL, so I replied
[14:55] <Odd-rationale> Ljorring: I don't know much about wireless either. But you can type"init 3" and then log in as a normal user.
[14:55] <Jonah_> so i tried to install the driver from serial monkey legacy driver
[14:55] <Jonah_> after reboot i don't have any connection to anything
[14:55] <merlin_> hey leute wie geht's euch ist mein erste mal hier
[14:55] <Ljorring> okay thanks
[14:55] <LjL> Ljorring: uhm, no i didn't
[14:55] <Odd-rationale> Ljorring: Once you log in, you might try to see if you fix it.
[14:55] <dbc00ps> I have an rt73usb wireless card.  it takes forever to connect to my wireless AP, and it always makes me enter the key.  what is the reason for this, or how can i make it work more seemlessly?
[14:56] <mariamystar> can anyone help me gain internet access for ubuntu via Virtual Pc?
[14:56] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: my pleasure. I'm here to help :)
[14:56] <Jonah_> dbc00ps, you just need to click on manual config on the little icon near clock and put settings in and turn off roaming
[14:56] <arnath> hmm, i just suspended my laptop and it won't wake up anymore? (PS: my swap is in LVM)
[14:56] <Reclutador> WWW.BARNATUX.COM
[14:56] <dbc00ps> jonah: i tried that before and i never connected
[14:57] <Caleb_Estartes> s00p:  Oh, duh, I just change servertype from inetd to standalone.  Okay.  Hmm..
[14:57] <boingus> Hi gang, my jackd server will not pass audio in any case. Ideas?
[14:57] <kartaL> selam
[14:57] <kartaL> i am turkish
[14:57] <kartaL> :)
[14:57] <Jonah_> i can't get terminal to load up... it doens't do anything... ahhhh
[14:57] <LjL> !pm | kartaL
[14:57] <ubotu> kartaL: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[14:58] <s00p> Caleb_Estartes: you also have to disable it in inetd and restart inetd!
[14:58] <Ljorring> so I should boot into recovery and type 'init 3'?
[14:58] <dbc00ps> I have an rt73usb wireless card.  it takes forever to connect to my wireless AP, and it always makes me enter the key.  what is the reason for this, or how can i make it work more seemlessly?
[14:58] <s00p> Ljorring: edit /etc/inittab and change the default runlevel to 0 :)
[14:58] <LjL> kartaL, can you read? see Ubotu above.
[14:58] <gnr> hmm i clicked reset in nvidia settings and now it wont detect my other monitor :o  how do i get it back? eeep :)
[14:58] <mariamystar> can anyone help me with an internet access problem?
[14:58] <Odd-rationale> Ljorring: Yes. Then the login screen will show up, and you should be able to log in normally
[14:58] <s00p> or 6 :D
[14:58] <kartaL> D:
[14:58] <Ljorring> mkay kewl :)
[14:58] <kartaL> :D:D:D
[14:59] <Jonah_> please can anyone help me out
[14:59] <irc-zurna-net> :)
[14:59] <dbc00ps> !rt73usb
[14:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt73usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:59] <LjL> irc-zurna-net, do you have a support question or do you just want to spam the channel with smileys and annoy me in PM?
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> Jonah_: Try switching with Ctr+Alt+F1
[14:59] <dextah> hey everyone :-) new install of ubuntu here. not sure if I should ask this here or not, but for whatever reason, compizconfig settings manager won't let me bind the application switcher "prev window" to "alt+shift+tab" ... does anyone know where compiz keeps it's binding settings? I already checked ~/.compiz and ~/.gconf/apps/compiz.. :'(
[15:00]  * dextah cheers for great wall of text... ;-)
[15:00] <Jonah_> Odd-rationale, tried that but i just get a blinking cursor in top corner of screen and can't do anything
[15:00] <jaz_> Hi. I was using the Nuvola theme until I upgraded to 7.10, after which the icons disappeared. I downloaded Nuvola again from and tried to reinstall it by drag-and-drop from the desktop into the Appearance Manager window. I get a message to say that it has been installed, but when I try to apply it, nothing happens. If I try to customise the current theme with the Nuvola icons, nothing happens.
[15:00] <Pici> dextah: Try asking in #compiz-fusion :)
[15:00] <dextah> will do. thank you sir.
[15:00] <Edulix>  how does ubuntu automatically mount usb storage media? I've read that it might use autfs, but apt says to me that it's not installed. how can I customize it to work with obexfs, that's what I want
[15:00] <Le_Fou`Absent> hi all
[15:00] <Le_Fou`Absent> * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.4 for ServerName
[15:00] <Le_Fou`Absent> httpd (pid 4985?) not running
[15:00] <Reliant> what package do I need to install to get access to the C Library man pages (like man sprintf) ?
[15:00] <magnetron> Jonah_: you need top type commands for the terminal to do something
[15:00] <Le_Fou`Absent> wat does this mean?do i need to start httpd?
[15:01] <Pici> Reliant: manpages-dev
[15:01] <Reliant> thanks
[15:01] <Pici> Le_Fou`Absent: it should be running at that point..
[15:01] <LjL> Edulix: i don't know, however you may want to keep in mind that the gnome-vfs-obexftp package (which is possibly installed by default) allows you to browse OBEX FTP services from Nautilus and other GNOME applications
[15:01] <Jonah_> magnetron, no it won't let me type anything or do anything, maybe the resolution is wrong, there isn't even a login etc when i exit gdm
[15:02] <Le_Fou`Absent> yea its working Pici.thought there was a problem when i have seen httpd not running.thx :)
[15:02] <Jonah_> i've rebooted and terminal loads now, but still no wifi
[15:02] <Pici> Le_Fou`Absent: I agree, its a cryptic error.
[15:03] <Le_Fou`Absent> im having some big problem with mod_rewrite.can anyone help?i have found some article on google but not working
[15:03] <Edulix> LjL: well I actually use kde ;)
[15:03] <LjL> Edulix: oh, in that case, if the stuff you want to access is on Bluetooth, just type "bluetooth:/" in Dolphin/Konqueror
[15:04] <jcadam> hello
[15:04] <Edulix> LjL: I use the USB, it's faster ;) and I don't have bluetooth in my laptop. I have added a obexfs line to /etc/fstab, so I can mount/umount /media/phone, but it would be fantastic if it was automatically discovered and mounted
[15:05] <Edulix> and then an icon would be put in the desktop, and with right click I could umount it hehe
[15:05] <LjL> Edulix: i agree that it probably would, but i honestly don't know how Ubuntu does it. and i don't know of any way to access OBEX FTP services that are on anything else than Bluetooth from KDE, either
[15:05] <Ljorring> if I boot into Recovery Mode and type 'init 3', my computer gets stuck at 'Starting Avahi mDSN/DSN-SD Daemon avahi-daemon'
[15:05] <Pici> Le_Fou`Absent: you might want to try in #apache for mod_rewrite help
[15:05] <Ljorring> how can I outbetter that?
[15:05] <mariamystar> i am unable to connect to the internet with ubuntu, i've look at a lot of help files online, but none of them seem to solve the problem
[15:06] <gran> whats the command to x-restart
[15:06] <Edulix> LjL: it's easy, you use -u instead of -b
[15:06] <Edulix> (in the cmd9
[15:06] <LjL> Edulix: "from KDE"
[15:06] <Ljorring> 'Starting Avahi mdns/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon' <--- fails
[15:06] <Edulix> oh that =)
[15:06] <Edulix> thanks for your help anyway
[15:06] <s00p> gogeta: I tried your advice on the NTFS drive. No dice.
[15:06] <LjL> Edulix: anyway, you might want to file a bug (if there isn't one already) -- i don't see any reason why OBEX FTP shouldn't be mounted automatically like mass storage devices
[15:06] <databuddy> well darn super
[15:07] <databuddy> vbox is gonna work this time lol
[15:07] <Edulix> LjL: that's true - I'll do it ! =)
[15:07]  * Edulix goes to launchpad
[15:07] <MasterShrek> databuddy, you may need to install and compile the modules, i had to i think
[15:07] <dilson> How mount partitions with access to written using ntfs-3?
[15:07] <databuddy> MasterShrek nope
[15:07] <MasterShrek> dilson, -t ntfs-3g
[15:08] <LjL> Edulix: (actually, there *are* reasons, such as the fact that obexfs is a FUSE filesystem which is in Universe, and things like that... yet, it logically *does* make sense to mount OBEX automatically ;)
[15:08] <databuddy> just installed package and chmod +666 /dev/vnoxthingie
[15:08] <databuddy> xp is reading and installing from disk
[15:08] <Odd-rationale> !ntfs
[15:08] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[15:08] <databuddy> tho this probably wont do what i want it to do lol
[15:08] <databuddy> i want it to take control of a usb port so i can hack my cell phone ^_^
[15:08] <databuddy> tho if this is nice
[15:08] <s00p> I get this crap: "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[15:08] <s00p> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Operation not supported
[15:08] <s00p> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use"
[15:08] <s00p> But I cleaned the disk on my XP box!
[15:09] <databuddy> i might do a seamless xp dedicated to one workspace and another seamless osx dedicated to another for kicks and giggles
[15:09] <s00p> I even did a check at reboot.
[15:09] <databuddy> s00p
[15:09] <databuddy> just run xp twice
[15:09] <dilson> thx
[15:09] <MasterOne_> hi guys, just installed edubuntu 7.10, and tried to add the cups-pdf printer, it's asking me for a password, but the normal user password is not accepted. any hint what to do?
[15:09] <databuddy> or add force in the fstab options
[15:09] <s00p> databuddy: what do you mean run xp twice?
[15:09] <databuddy> its wierd like that ^^
[15:09] <databuddy> i mean
[15:09] <databuddy> to 'clean' ntfs partitions for ntfs-3g just boot to windows mounting that partition in windows twice
[15:09] <Pici> !away > Somotaw|AFK (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:10] <databuddy> then its cleared
[15:10] <databuddy> OR mount with force
[15:10] <s00p> databuddy: ok let me try
[15:10] <databuddy> ^_^
[15:11] <s00p> So just reboot twice after cleaning it?
[15:13] <Ljorring> anyone knows why 'Starting Avahi mdns/DNS-SD Daemon avahi-daemon' hangs, when I boot up Ubuntu?
[15:14] <proprietarysucks> how can I change my desktop back to 4 desktops?
[15:15] <wastrel> change it to 1 desktop in the applet
[15:15] <wastrel> hrm in feisty anyway
[15:15] <wastrel> they seem to have fixed it in gusty
[15:15] <MasterOne> hi guys, i just installed edubuntu 7.10, and now I am trying to install the cups pdf printer, but it keeps asking for a password, and the normal user password is not accepted. any hint, what to do?
[15:15] <proprietarysucks> it was fine till I upgraded to gutsy
[15:16] <Barbarello> hi
[15:16] <s00p> proprietarysucks: nice nick!
[15:16] <profanephobia> can someone please help me with this boot error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43018/
[15:16] <proprietarysucks> thanks!
[15:16] <possessed> masterone ,
[15:16] <Jonah_> made a massive mess of my system and not it's really unstable can anyone please help me out, please, the problem is summarised here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3691280#post3691280
[15:16] <possessed> maybe i can help you
[15:16] <Barbarello> where to get java machine ber 1.5 for example not by apt-get please/ I'vw to download under XP.
[15:16] <MasterOne> possessed: yes?
[15:17] <neverblue> Barbarello, google: ubuntu guide
[15:17] <s00p> MasterOne: try domain\uasrname
[15:18] <possessed> masterOne, try sudo passwd
[15:18] <possessed> sudo passwd
[15:18] <Barbarello> so.. thanks
[15:18] <possessed> and
[15:18] <dilson> Setting squid for bloquer navigation by Outlook?
[15:18] <possessed> insert password
[15:18] <lindows> hello
[15:18] <possessed> then it will root's password
[15:18] <pulseezar> ok guys, easy question. how do I start a program from the terminal?
[15:18] <MasterOne> s00p: I can not modify the username, the box tells "Password required" and "Password for USER at localhost?"
[15:19] <msconfig>  ,,. 
[15:19] <jatt> program
[15:19] <MasterShrek> pulseezar, type the name of the program
[15:19] <MasterOne> possessed: but I thought it was not intended to give root a passwd on ubuntu
[15:19] <lindows> you type it in the terminal
[15:19] <possessed> yeah, ubuntu do not allow root master in x windows
[15:19] <pulseezar> ahahahaa
[15:19] <possessed> you can only terminal mode
[15:19] <pulseezar> that was so obviously easy..
[15:19] <pulseezar> cheers!
[15:19] <lindows> yeah
[15:19] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: you need to not try to fix your system using graphical tools
[15:20] <possessed> oh!
[15:20] <possessed> Toonarmy!!
[15:20] <james296> I got a question, how can you change the text color of the default Ubuntu startup page in forefox and keep the top Ubuntu logo? I colorized it so the header fits the style of my desktop theme, but the text colors of course, are the same
[15:20] <pulseezar> newcastle lad are ya?
[15:20] <possessed> newcatsle Utd I love them!@
[15:20] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: to start, go to terminal and pastbin me the output of ifconfig
[15:20] <ChuckFu> is anyone experiancing stalls in Ubuntu 7.10
[15:21] <pulseezar> wait, how did this newcastle thing come up?
[15:21] <james296> you mean randomly freezing?
[15:21] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, ok but exiting gdm wasn't giving me a prompt, i booted into recovery mode and changed boot manager to boot in 791 vga mode instead to see if i can see a prompt with taht instead
[15:21] <ChuckFu> yes
[15:21] <possessed> i installed Ubuntu 7.10
[15:21] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: exit gdm? dude... press alt-f2 and type in xterm
[15:21] <ChuckFu> seemes to freeze tooo much and the previous version worked fine
[15:22] <james296> yes, its related to the latest restricted driver it installs the latest nvidia driver
[15:22] <dsaint> how do I run fsck on next bootup?
[15:22] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, yeah that's what i did - no prompt, so i figured resolution maybe not set right, my bootmanager file was set to vga=771, so just check 791 corrects this
[15:22] <ChuckFu> james296 any word on a fix
[15:22] <possessed> ChuckFu do you use Nvidia VGA gear??
[15:22] <james296> I used Envy, I hate to promote it... but I used that to install the previous version of the driver
[15:22] <zcode> dsaint: touch /.autofsck
[15:22] <Pici> dsaint: sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:22] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: I didn't say ctrl-alt-f2, I said alt-f2 and type in xterm
[15:22] <zcode> something like that
[15:22] <Jonah_> no still nothing, no prompt on at-ctrl f2
[15:22] <ChuckFu> I think i do, sorry can't be more certain
[15:23] <dsaint> Thank you! zcod, pici
[15:23] <possessed> Nvidia VGA , Ubuntu 7.10 not good.......
[15:23] <james296> but when you get envy install it and press Alt F1 to go into a text mode and type envy -t when you log in
[15:23] <Pici> !envy
[15:23] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[15:23] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: stop thinking so much, look down press alt and f2 together. a box will come up. without looking at it just press x t e r m (enter)
[15:24] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, oh you mean the run dialog?? i'm with you, ok that's great, gives me a terminal thanks, still not sure what to do though
[15:24] <james296> well I used Envy and my comp is working just fine
[15:24] <ChuckFu> humm so going back to the previous version is th only way to fix this other then replacing video card
[15:24] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: thanks for listening. now type ifconfig(enter)
[15:24] <abhibera> possessed: why?
[15:24] <james296> havent noticed any broken features after installing it
[15:24] <Pici> james296: Just because you can, doesnt mean you should.
[15:24] <abhibera> possessed: r u saying i should not use nvidia on Ubuntu?
[15:25] <profanephobia> can someone please help me with this boot error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43018/
[15:25] <yaser> is there any app to encrypt a file/directory like winrar does?
[15:25] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, ok that doesn't seem to do anything
[15:25] <s00p> ack! rar is the devil!
[15:25] <possessed> yeah
[15:25] <james296> I got a question, how can you change the text color of the default Ubuntu startup page in forefox and keep the top Ubuntu logo? I colorized it so the header fits the style of my desktop theme, but the text colors of course, are the same
[15:25] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: try  sudo ifconfig(enter)
[15:26] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: then you have to enter your password
[15:26] <profanephobia> ive tried reinstalling grub... and find /boot/grub/stage1 returns the correct value but something is wrong with root partition or something
[15:26] <possessed> forefox???? you told firefox?
[15:26] <jerbear> how does ubuntu run on powerbooks?
[15:26] <s00p> jerbear: cant speak for powerbooks bu on macbooks its a ch amp
[15:26] <RoyK> hi. I just installed 7.1 on and i386 box. how can I use these cubic visual effects?
[15:27] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, oh man, this is awful, the alt-f2 only works one time, then xterm wont run again
[15:27] <RoyK> I have enabled 'extra visual effects'
[15:27] <jerbear> does wireless work out of the box?
[15:27] <james296> so I take it no one knows...'
[15:27] <profanephobia> !ccsm > RoyK
[15:27] <joeamine1> how can i make firefox automatically launch thunderbird when a click on a mailto link ?
[15:27] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, so i have no terminal again, and can't do anything
[15:27] <ChuckFu> anyway to roll back to teh previous version of Ubuntu without doing reinstall
[15:27] <possessed> hey... guys... can i use msn massenger in ubuntu ???
[15:27] <amadeux> After installing kubuntu-desktop and switching back to gnome as my default DE and changing the kdm back to gdm with debconf (or whatever), how do I change the booting and shutting down logos from kubuntu logos to ubuntu logos?
[15:27] <Pici> james296: You'll have to save and modify the page yourself, or use a firefox extension like stylish to customize the CSS.
[15:27] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: try alt-f2 and then type in gnome-terminal(enter)
[15:27] <kst> dont think so ChuckFu..
[15:28] <Pici> !msn | proprietarysucks
[15:28] <ubotu> proprietarysucks: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[15:28] <Pici> !usplash > amadeux (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:28] <ChuckFu> darn oh will sometimes you learn the hard way huh
[15:28] <yaser> is there any app to encrypt a file/directory like winrar does so that some directories cant be read even with other linux or operating system??
[15:28] <s00p> Still cannot mount the volume! I cleaned it and rebooted three times, then shut down to let Windows clean things up.
[15:28] <Pici> ChuckFu: no, downgrading is not supported.
[15:28] <proprietarysucks> Pici: ??
[15:28] <RoyK> proprietarysucks: thanks
[15:28] <proprietarysucks> RoyK: ??
[15:28] <Pici> proprietarysucks: sorry, tab complete is doing weird things today.
[15:28] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, that also does nothing, can we fix it from recovery mode?? as at the moment it won't let me do much of anything
[15:28] <federico> i've got a problem i can't find any file...
[15:29] <s00p> Which LogFile is indicating unclean shutdown?
[15:29] <RoyK> proprietarysucks: ops. sorry... i meant profanephobia :P
[15:29] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: if you can't open a terminal, can't run commands, can't open a different tty, you are basically screwed
[15:29] <possessed> can i use any massenger ???
[15:29] <profanephobia> RoyK, np
[15:29] <proprietarysucks> Jonah_: you can do rescue and such but that's beyond what I'm going to do with you, good luck
[15:29] <amadeux> Pici, thanks! could have been simpler... :)
[15:30] <Jonah_> proprietarysucks, well if i boot recovery mode, is there a why to remove  driver you install, like i did a make build then make install, and i don't think it really install fully or something, is there a way to strip it back out?
[15:30] <jorgenpt> I'm running Gutsy, and I'm having issues with audio desync of flash videos in Firefox. (E.g. on YouTube)
[15:30] <jorgenpt> Anyone have any tips / suggestions?
[15:31] <manchicken> So is it common for compiz to kill DVD video playback?
[15:31] <jorgenpt> Running flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12
[15:31] <s00p> It is common for compiz to slow down your computer!
[15:31] <bch> does anyone know if there is a way have apt use something like yum's --installroot?
[15:31] <s00p> man dpkg
[15:31] <arnath> anyone know a fix for suspend/hibernate on LVM swap?
[15:32] <james296> how do I use Styles to change the text in the page though?
[15:32] <possessed> ctrl + alt + F1
[15:32] <Jonah_> hey guys i installed a driver but it's screwed my system up and now can't do anything, so is there a way i can delete this driver from recovery mode? please can someone help me out
[15:32] <amadeux> Is there anyway to have firefox elegantly not play any videostreams within the browser (no plugin I have tried works flawlessly), and then when I click, it should open an external mplayer (not within browser) and play the video there?
[15:32] <manchicken> s00p: Not really.
[15:32] <Pici> james296: stylish, not styles. Its a firefox extension. http://userstyles.org/stylish/help  I dont think theres a simpler way.
[15:33] <John_R> anybody got an idea how to get flash sound working in firefox on dapper with a soundblaster 16?
[15:33] <mariamystar> can anybody help me with an internet related issue?
[15:33] <james296> thats what I meant actually
[15:33] <arnath> mariamystar: just ask the question ;)
[15:33] <manchicken> Jonah_: Is it an ATI driver?  I've never gotten one of those to work properly.
[15:33] <james296> but sadly I dont know what to do it just brings me to a stylish site to download additional stylish styles...
[15:33] <mariamystar> i have instqalled Ubuntu 6.06 on VirtualPC
[15:33] <mariamystar> everything is running fine
[15:34] <mariamystar> but i cannot access the internet
[15:34] <mariamystar> my ethernet connection says it's active
[15:34] <Jonah_> manchicken, no it's a wifi driver, my wifi was kinda working but wasnt very good, so i tried to install a different driver from source and it's killed my machine
[15:34] <bch> s00p: thank you
[15:34] <possessed> Ati driver , It's good, i don't have any problem
[15:35] <manchicken> Jonah_: Ah.  Sorry, I've never had any trouble with wifi drivers...
[15:35] <arnath> mariamystar: isn't there a support for virtualpc?
[15:35] <manchicken> possessed: Consider yourself lucky :)
[15:35] <mariamystar> virtual support doesnt technically support any linux OS
[15:35] <Jonah_> hi can anyone please tell me how to undo a make build make install and strip the driver back out of my system as it's causing it to crash, please?
[15:35] <mariamystar> so there wouldnt be any documentation from the offical site
[15:35] <manchicken> Jonah_: `make uninstall` maybe
[15:36] <amadeux> mariamystar, "virtual support"? I think you mean "virtual pc"
[15:36] <mariamystar> i have looked up several articles, and i followed all their instructions, i still cant seem to look at any websites
[15:36] <h1st0> Jonah_: make uninstall
[15:36] <RoyK> one more question - after installing the 3d stuff - how can I view the cube and rotate it and so on? i can't find that
[15:36] <manchicken> Jonah_: You could also blacklist it if that doesn't work.
[15:36] <John_R> mariamystar: is the thernet conenction bridged or host-only?
[15:36] <mariamystar> thats what i meant, yes
[15:36] <h1st0> !source > Jonah_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:36] <manchicken> In /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[15:36] <amadeux> mariamystar, don't use virtual pc. it sucks. Use VirtualBox or vmware or ... I prefer virtualbox. It's simple and fast
[15:36] <mariamystar> i see
[15:36] <mariamystar> do you think that would solve my internet issues?
[15:36] <John_R> mariamystar: i use vmware to run xp under linux, and the ethernet card needs to be set to bridged to work properly
[15:37] <h1st0> mariamystar: or you can use virtualbox very nice software
[15:37] <medfly> i am looking for some video player that wouldn't have any issue just opening .asx files (and similar ones). if anyone is familiar with one..
[15:37] <amadeux> mariamystar, It might, but either way, it is probably a virtualization issue, not an ubuntu issue. Try virtual box. It is very easy to use
[15:37] <h1st0> RoyK: install compizconfig-settings-manager package
[15:37] <possessed> It is not Ati driver problem, i think.
[15:37] <h1st0> medfly: vlc
[15:37] <amadeux> Is there anyway to have firefox elegantly not play any videostreams within the browser (no plugin I have tried works flawlessly), and then when I click, it should open an external mplayer (not within browser) and play the video there?
[15:37] <mariamystar> thanks
[15:37] <medfly> h1st0, it just doesn't do it proeprly. could it be something witht he file?
[15:37] <RoyK> h1st0: I did, but what am I to turn on to get that? or what keys to press?
[15:38] <amadeux> medfly, yes it could. But try mplayer as well
[15:38] <Jonah_> make uninstall just gives me No rule to make target 'uninstall'
[15:38] <possessed> I think, It's  your monitor's problem
[15:38] <h1st0> RoyK: well you can type ccsm in a terminal or hit alt+f2 to bring up a run prompt and type in ccsm.
[15:38] <cinch> Can someone point me to a doc on getting a Radeon Mobility 7500 to run Desktop Effects?
[15:38] <h1st0> Jonah_: you need to be in the source directory
[15:38] <arnath> mariamystar: virtualbox has a hell of a time bridging connections though (default: nat) so it depends on your needs imho
[15:38] <h1st0> !ati > cinch (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:39] <amadeux> arnath, true
[15:39] <manchicken> Jonah_: Go back to the source directory where you did the `make install` and do a `make uninstall`
[15:39] <RoyK> h1st0: well, I'm looking around in there of course, but I just wondered how I actually trigger the cube view
[15:39] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hello all.  I'm trying to play back a dvd and the previews play fine and the menu comes up okay, but when I try to play the movie I get an error about libdvdcss, which is installed.  (from the medibuntu library).  I'm using totem.  What should I check?
[15:39] <possessed> Is any website you recommend ????
[15:39] <h1st0> RoyK: enable teh cube plugin and change teh hsize in general settings
[15:39] <Jonah_> manchicken, i'm in dir that i did the make install
[15:39] <manchicken> Jonah_: Try `make deinstall` (that's the BSD way)
[15:40] <amadeux> arnath, mariamystar of course, the de facto choice is vmware. So you might want to go with that. I just find their software a little too intrusive (installs all sorts of daemons and extra virtual hardware in the host system). Virtualbox is more selfcontained and "just works"
[15:40] <Pici> !offtopic | possessed
[15:40] <ubotu> possessed: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:40] <arnath> amadeux: plus, vmware is not opensource, which disturbs me  a bit for free software :p
[15:40] <Jonah_> can anyone please help me uninstall a driver, make uninstall gives a no rule target error
[15:40] <amadeux> arnath, yeah
[15:40] <possessed> oh thanks a lot
[15:40] <h1st0> !codecs > nerdygirl_ellie (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:40] <Jonah_> manchicken, same error
[15:40] <manchicken> Jonah_: Did you try `make deinstall`?
[15:40] <Pici> Jonah_: try `sudo make remove`
[15:40] <manchicken> Okay
[15:41] <stack_> I have a box that was originally a dapper desktop.  Over time it has been upgraded to gutsy.  Also, in the process it has become more of a server and less as a desktop.  Is there a way to 'downgrade' the desktop to the server install set?
[15:41] <amadeux> arnath, mariamystar also in the benchmarks I have seen, virtualbox is faster
[15:41] <manchicken> Jonah_: What driver did you install?
[15:41] <mariamystar> im at the virtualbox page
[15:41] <Pici> stack_: just remove ubuntu-desktop or whatever desktop metapackage you use
[15:41] <Pancakes> I'm trying to install irssi, but I'm having problems. I used the Synaptic Package Manager, but it's still not appearing in my applications
[15:41] <arnath> amadeux: mariamystar xen is fastest (i think), but very hard to install (especially on ubuntu gutsy)
[15:41] <h1st0> stack_: you could remove gnome or what ever window manager you have installed and autoremove the rest of the packages hopefully.
[15:41] <mariamystar> im in the downloads section
[15:41] <manchicken> Jonah_: Try going back to their webpage and seeing if they have any docs on how to remove it.
[15:41] <Pici> Pancakes: irssi is a command line irc client, it wont have a an entry in gnome.
[15:42] <Jonah_> manchicken, this one: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt61-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[15:42] <possessed> ubotu : Did  you recommend me IRC channel? or website?
[15:42] <arnath> amadeux: mariamystar it "should" work fine on feisty though, but i haven't tested this yet
[15:42] <james296> how can I edit the color of the text in the file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html main homepage in firefox?
[15:42] <amadeux> arnath, true, but xen is only faster if you have a processor with that "new" virtualization flag. My athlon 64 x2 socket939 does not have that flag
[15:42] <RoyK> h1st0: erm. hsize - where?
[15:42] <Pici> possessed: It reccomended you that this channel is only for support, not asking for insteresting websites.
[15:42] <h1st0> RoyK: horizontal size
[15:42] <james296> Stylish doesnt seem to be for that
[15:42] <h1st0> RoyK: or something like that
[15:42] <RoyK> h1st0: yes, but where can I change it?
[15:42] <LORENA> hi
[15:42] <Jonah_> manchicken, there doesn't seem to be anything about that
[15:42] <james296> I dont understand how to get it working
[15:42] <BYOCOM> In 7.04 with Beryl I could shade a window by clicking with the scroll wheel and rolling up and un-shade by clicking with the scroll wheel and rolling down.  Is there a way to enable this behavior in 7.10??
[15:42] <LORENA> cish boni
[15:42] <LORENA> ej
[15:43] <h1st0> RoyK: under general options in ccsm
[15:43] <possessed> oh i see thanks!
[15:43] <mariamystar> i cant seem to find the link for the appropriate download
[15:43] <manchicken> Jonah_: Is there a README or something like that in the directory?
[15:43] <arnath> amadeux: ah that could be
[15:43] <bossi> nonen
[15:43] <Jonah_> does anyone please no how i can uninstall this driver: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt61-cvs-daily.tar.gz i don' t think it even install properly anyway, but now my system is unstable since installing it
[15:43] <bossi> nonen
[15:43] <medfly> do i need to compile mplayer on my own to get the win32 plugins?
[15:43] <bossi> bithtermo
[15:43] <Pici> !english | bossi
[15:43] <ubotu> bossi: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:43] <bossi> w3231313231231313
[15:43] <Jonah_> manchicken, yeah but nothing about removing in readme
[15:43] <h1st0> RoyK: General Options > Desktop Size change horizontal virutal size to 4 and the other two values to 1
[15:43] <bossi> w3q3ew q
[15:43] <bossi> qwe w
[15:43] <bossi> zx
[15:43] <bossi>  
[15:43] <bossi> sa
[15:43] <bossi> sd
[15:44] <h1st0> RoyK: then make sure cube plugin is check boxed and you should be good to go.
[15:44] <pike_> medfly: no
[15:44] <medfly> amadeux, hmm, well, it doesn't work - mplayer says it cant open some avisynth plugin.
[15:44] <medfly> alright, thanks pike_ :-)
[15:44] <bossi> a whhhhaaaaa
[15:44] <LjL> bossi, try english sentences
[15:44] <bossi> ngoj
[15:44] <bossi> cao
[15:44] <james296> anyone?
[15:44] <h1st0> !abuse > > (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:45] <mnk3ym4n> hey - why does the 6.10 server cd detect my dell sc420 display adapter and monitor, but the 7.10 cd does not?
[15:45] <possessed> good night guys,!@
[15:46] <possessed> ......
[15:46] <arnath> can anyone shed any light on suspend/hibernate on LVM swap? i'm having trouble finding a solution
[15:46] <possessed> i have question
[15:46] <possessed> ubotu <-- is it just a bot????
[15:46] <LjL> !bot > possessed    (possessed, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:46] <h1st0> james296: you need to edit the stylesheet
[15:47] <manchicken> Jonah_: Read the Makefile and see if there's anything in there.  I've gotta go for now.  Good luck.
[15:47] <possessed> ok. thanks
[15:47] <cinch> Hi - I went through the BinaryDriverHowto and it says I should have 3D support on my Radeon Mobility 7500 but I can't get Desktop Effects to work.
[15:47] <possessed> bye bye!
[15:47] <Jonah_> manchicken ok thanks
[15:47] <LjL> cinch, having 3D support doesn't imply that Desktop Effects are supported
[15:48] <cinch> LjL - How do I tell if they're supported?
[15:48] <pipegeek> Howdy.
[15:48] <pipegeek> I'm very confused.
[15:49] <lakin_> Before I upgraded to Gutsy, I had some firefox shortcuts that used executed: firefox -P <profile_name> and it worked great, I had multiple profiles configured for different uses.  But they don't work anymore.  The first shortcut I use launches the right profile, but if I use a different shortcut while FF is still running I get an instance of the first profile (not the new one)
[15:49] <jussi01> pipegeek: how so?
[15:49] <dgjones> cinch, how much memory does your graphics have, i have an old nvidia which runs 3d app's, games etc happily, but because its only 32mb memory, desktop effects won't run
[15:49] <LjL> cinch, that's a good question, i don't know where to find a list
[15:50] <pipegeek> I'm running gutsy.  I'd like .exe files to be associated with wine.  However, even though nautilus seems to think they are (right-click->properties->open with shows wine as the only option), they *actually* open with gksu (which gets confused) and then die.  How do I fix this behavior?
[15:50] <Pici> lakin_: Did you try starting firefox with -ProfileManager to see that you're using the right names?
[15:50] <ConstyXIV> what's a good windows/ubuntu CPU benchmark?
[15:50] <mnk3ym4n> 6.10 server cd recognizes my monitor and display adapter.  7.10 does not.  going to try 7.04 in a bit - downloading now.  would someone please shed some light on this subject?
[15:50] <lakin_> Pici: yeah, like I said.  Each of the shortcuts work, if no FF is currently running. But once I have one of the profiles currently executing, all subsequent runs use that profile
[15:51] <sung> mnk3ym4n: what kind of monitor/display adapter do you have?
[15:51] <lakin_> Pici: It's like it ignores the '-P' argument when a firefox is already running and just asks it for a new window
[15:51] <burg> !mp3
[15:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:51] <amadeux> Is there anyway to have firefox elegantly not play any videostreams within the browser (no plugin I have tried works flawlessly), and then when I click, it should open an external mplayer (not within browser) and play the video there?
[15:51] <Niekk> who is Channel OP here ?
[15:51] <Filype> it's possible do unninstall only the ubuntu partition without have to format the entire hd?
[15:51] <spiderfire> is there a grub menu editor?
[15:51] <medfly> i am still having trouble with finding a media player that can "just" play .asx files. i can get the files tow ork on my own, and i tried vlc/mplayer. vlc worked fine once i got a more specific link, and mplayer is complaining about failing to load a library.
[15:52] <docubaseTech> can anyone help with a software RAID setup?
[15:52] <mnk3ym4n> ssung: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation E7221 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[15:52] <cinch> dgjones - Sure enough, it only has 32MB. Thanks anyway!!
[15:52] <pipegeek> jussi01: this makes me sad.
[15:52] <pike_> spiderfire: i imagine there is a front end to do it but normally youd just gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:52] <nblracer> what is the command, to read the whole drive and flag bad sectors? and move those bad sectors if posable?
[15:52] <jussi01> pipegeek: ??
[15:53] <Pici> Niekk: Whats up?
[15:53] <h1st0> !raid > docubaseTech (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[15:53] <kl4m> amadeux: check in the firefox preferences, content tab, manage file types
[15:53] <ConstyXIV> !benchmark
[15:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about benchmark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:53] <dgjones> cinch, mine is an old nvidia geforce2go on a laptop so in my case its nor upgradeable anyway
[15:53] <kl4m> amadeux: disregard this, it won't disable plugins
[15:53] <ConstyXIV> are there any good cross-platform CPU benchmarks?
[15:53] <pipegeek> jussi01: you asked why I was confused ;^)
[15:53] <Ljorring^> I have added a new wireless network card, and I cannot boot up now. Ubuntu hangs midways, when starting avahi mdns/dns-sd daemon avahi-daemon'. more specifically when I run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure hal' from recovery mode, it freezes, when it adds my new wireless network card. Anything I can do?
[15:53] <Filype> it's possible do unninstall only the ubuntu partition without have to format the entire hd?
[15:53] <Niekk> Pici: somebody I know is banned here, because of a mistake. He said: "Ubuntu sucks!" because he was frustated and wanna tell what the problem was, but before he coudl tell it, he got banend
[15:53] <jussi01> pipegeek: I didnt know the answer, hence I didnt answer
[15:53] <Filype> it's possible to unninstall only the ubuntu partition without have to format the entire hd?
[15:54] <james296> how can I edit the stylesheet?
[15:54] <h1st0> Filype: you could just delete the partition but you would have to format the new one
[15:54] <Pici> lakin_: Have you tried providing the switches directly to firefox-bin? firefox is just a script that runs that... you might need to take a look at the text of firefox to see exactly what it does.
[15:54] <albech> anyone else have problems with random flickering with nvidia?
[15:54] <Pici> Niekk: Tell him to ask about it in #ubuntu-ops
[15:54] <h1st0> james296: with a text editor its the .css file in that directory.  also you may want to try looking for help in a web development room rather than ubuntu support.
[15:54] <Filype> h1st0: and how i do it?
[15:55] <h1st0> Filype: what are you trying to accomplish
[15:55] <arnath> if i put a script inside /etc/init.d it will be run on boot, yes?
[15:55] <h1st0> arnath: no
[15:55] <arnath> h1st0: ah, then how do i do it?
[15:55] <Filype> i have a hd with ubuntu and windows, i'd like to unninstal ubuntu, and have only the windows on my hd
[15:55] <mnk3ym4n> sung: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation E7221 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[15:55] <h1st0> arnath: unless you use update-rc.d  You could just put the script in your path and add it to /etc/rc.local
[15:56] <possessed> hey ... i got some problem
[15:56] <arnath> h1st0: it has to be run by root, will this still be the case?
[15:56] <docubaseTech> that guide is for hardware or existing...i'm looking to find out if I can bring a blank HDD in and apply raid 0...
[15:56] <h1st0> Filype: okay well boot to windows and use fdisk to remove the linux partitions.
[15:56] <docubaseTech> i was trying mdadm
[15:56] <possessed> in Xwindows, make a new directory, but i can fix it's title
[15:56] <dgjones> cinch, just found a post on the forums where its says that the minimum memory needed for desktop effects is 65536kb, otherwise it falls back to metacity
[15:56] <Filype> hlst0, ok thanks guy
[15:57] <h1st0> Filype: then you would need to get some utility to expland the windows partition and use the freespace.  But you may want to ask in #windows about all that.
[15:57] <arnath> h1st0: also, if i just need to execute one command, can i put it directly into rc.local?
[15:57] <possessed> help me....
[15:57] <possessed> in Xwindows, make a new directory, but i can fix it's title
[15:57] <h1st0> Filype: you'll also have to probably fixmbr on teh C: drive but they can help you with that.
[15:57] <h1st0> arnath: yeap
[15:57] <h1st0> arnath: that will execute for every user at run time.
[15:58] <arnath> h1st0: ok great :)
[15:58] <RickJones> hey guys, anyone in here know anything about making yahoo work with wine? i've installed a bunch of things, but yahoo says it can't find and internet conenction, do i use a proxy setting and loopback, or is there a missing dll ?
[15:58] <RoyK> erm... now ctrl+shift+left/right will allow me to go through the different sides on the box, but without too much effects - ctrl+up/down unfolds/folds the box, but how can I look at it from the outside with those nice effects?
[15:58] <brett> you don't like using pidgin RickJones ?
[15:58] <dgjones> RickJones, any reason you're using yahoo under wine and not pidgin/kopete etc?
[15:58] <RickJones> brett, pigeon crashes every 5th line i write
[15:58] <h1st0> RickJones: have you checked on wines app-db?
[15:58] <lakin_> Pici: yeah, I was hoping to avoid that, but I'll try it
[15:58] <lakin_> Pici: thx
[15:59] <h1st0> RickJones: appdb.winehq.com
[15:59] <RickJones> thanks hlst0
[15:59] <RoyK> h1st0: _
[15:59] <RoyK> ?
[15:59] <dgjones> RickJones, try kopete, that might work out better, or maybe even aMsn
[15:59] <h1st0> RickJones: you can search for specific apps there and it will show peoples steps in getting it working.
[15:59] <RickJones> amsn works good for msn but not for yahoo
[15:59] <bLIND^_^> hi
[15:59] <gran> whats the command to run nvidia-settings as root?
[15:59] <h1st0> RoyK: you can hold ctrl+alt and click and drag the desktop around
[16:00] <almr> السﻻم عليكم
[16:00] <medfly> !ar
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <medfly> uhmm.. :-)
[16:00] <h1st0> !sudo > gran (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[16:00] <RoyK> h1st0: ctrl+alt+left/right/middle click won't do much
[16:00] <burg> tells me: the list of applications is not available, when i click "ubuntu resticted extras" in add/remove panel
[16:00] <dgjones> !sa | almr
[16:00] <almr> any one speek arabic
[16:00] <ubotu> almr: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[16:01] <possessed> in Xwindows, make a new directory, but i can fix it's name.. anyone who help me??
[16:01] <h1st0> RoyK: hold the left click down and drag the desktop while holding ctrl+alt
[16:01] <h1st0> RoyK: you can also change teh zoom level etc... in the cube plugin settings
[16:01] <burg> why and what to do?
[16:02] <monfreex> anyone here who knows how to install a lamp setup for development?
[16:02] <bleubeard> !nas
[16:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:02] <h1st0> !lamp > monfreex (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[16:03] <zeroflag> I have a nvidia fake-raid0 that is broken (the mainboard deleted it but both disks are still 100% complete). is there a chance to mount them in ubuntu and get the data back and if so, should I use 7.10 or will 7.04 suffice?
[16:03] <zeroflag> !fakeraied
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraied - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <zeroflag> !fakeraid
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:03] <zeroflag> !raid
[16:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[16:04] <rico> hello. quick question, how can I stop apt-get from asking me for my Ubuntu CD?
[16:04] <RoyK> h1st0: I don't get it. It doesn't work. Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube are enabled
[16:05] <LjL> !fishing > zeroflag    (zeroflag, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:05] <monfreex> quickie: anyone here who tried to install apache2, php5 and mysql5 in gutsy?
[16:05] <h1st0> rico: comment out the cdrom line from the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[16:05] <zeroflag> rico: /etc/apt/sources.list or something... remove the cdrom.
[16:05] <h1st0> rico: or use system > administration > Software Sources and uncheck the cdrom
[16:06] <h1st0> RoyK: maybe the shortcut isn't there?  Looki n the cube settings under the bound keys
[16:06] <h1st0> RoyK: last tab
[16:06] <RoyK> what's its name?
[16:06] <RoyK> under rotate cube or desktop cube?
[16:06] <lakin_> Pici: when firefox is already running, even the command: firefox -ProfileManager doesn't bring up the profile manager
[16:07] <ccii> how do I access the CUPS web interface ? (Feisty)
[16:08] <soundray> ccii: http://localhost:631 (if it's enabled)
[16:08] <awag> hello, can someone tell me the name of the program that was used for desktop searching by default in feisty fawn?
[16:08] <soundray> awag: beagle
[16:08] <Pici> lakin_: Doesnt work for me either.
[16:08] <lakin_> Pici: Yeah, looking in launchpad for a bug report right now
[16:09] <Dlay> hi
[16:09] <Pici> lakin_: good idea, was just going to suggest that.
[16:09] <zeroflag> LjL: I wasn't "abusing" any bot. I just need to find out if/how I can access my ntfs fakeraid...
[16:09] <awag> soundray, ok, thanks, because that worked for me, but now i have strigi installed, and it doesn't work
[16:09] <ccii> soundray: How do I enable it ?
[16:09] <LjL> zeroflag: what's unclear in the sentence "Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots"?
[16:09] <Dlay> can anyone help me with gnubiff ?
[16:09] <lakin_> Pici: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/31746
[16:10] <Dlay> can anyone help me with gnubiff ?
[16:10] <zeroflag> LjL: maybe you could add https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto as !fakeraid anyway?
[16:10] <bpat1434> Hi all. I am running Ubuntu Gutsy and have two nVidia Geforce 8600GT cards (SLI available) and was wondering which I should use to have my desktop extended onto my second monitor? Xinerama or TwinView
[16:12] <NET||abuse> bpat1434, I've heard TwinView is the best way to do dual monitors with nvidia, especially when it comes to compiz in the mix, but i've not heard much feedback about using 2 cards in sli
[16:13] <LjL> !no raid is <reply> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:13] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[16:13] <LjL> !fakeraid is <alias> raid
[16:13] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[16:13] <ccii> soundray: How do I enable CUPS web interface?
[16:13] <kst> !raid
[16:13] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[16:13] <kst> xD
[16:14] <zeroflag> !xinerama | bpat1434
[16:14] <ubotu> bpat1434: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[16:14] <bpat1434> Net||abuse, have you successfully configured TwinView before? I've installed the nVidia proprietary drivers, but it won't allow me to "extend" the desktop onto another screen
[16:14] <zeroflag> bpat1434: that xineramahowto looks pretty good.
[16:15] <lakin_> Pici: firefox -a dev -P dev  <- Works!
[16:15] <lakin_> \o/
[16:15] <Pici> lakin_: woo
[16:15] <bpat1434> zeroflag: yes, but I'm just wondering which would be better for me, Xinerama or TwinView
[16:16] <soundray> ccii: change the line "Browsing Off" in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to "Browsing On". Also look at the other sections in that file.
[16:17] <ccii> soundray : thanx
[16:18] <zeroflag> bpat1434: from what I gathered xinerama is somehow using twinview anyway...
[16:18] <zeroflag> but I might be wrong...
[16:18] <soundray> I'm trying to install the ati.com drivers. When I try to create the deb packages with "bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy", it aborts with "cp: cannot stat `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri': No such file or directory". Any tips?
[16:18] <Snakudes> You guys know any good programme to use your Linuxserver as a proxy for HTML?
[16:18] <puglisi> hi, any hint about the best way to sesize partitions (ext3)?
[16:19] <soundray> !info squid | Snakudes
[16:19] <ubotu> snakudes: squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[16:19] <soundray> Snakudes: you can also use apache as a proxy
[16:19] <argh> !dosemu
[16:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosemu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:20] <Snakudes> wich one is easiest?
[16:20] <argh> !repository
[16:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[16:20] <pike_> !gparted | puglisi
[16:20] <ubotu> puglisi: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:20] <NET||abuse> bpat1434, i have, but the psu on my desktiop which has a 7800GT blew up,, not able to see how i did it before :) dual 19" sony lcd's ,was awsome
[16:20] <NET||abuse> bpat1434, but as zeroflag mentioned, there are howto's out there,, so don't discount xinerama on my account :)
[16:20] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do i install a gtk metacity theme?
[16:20] <NET||abuse> soemthing i've just never bothered to do before :)@
[16:20] <NET||abuse> got the tar.gz file, no instructions anywhere,, just metacity and gtk directories.
[16:20] <soundray> Snakudes: I don't know
[16:20] <pike_> puglisi: remember that you want to unmount the partition before resizing.. if it is your / then might be easier to use livecd or remount ro maybe
[16:21] <argh> where can i add repository for synaptic?
[16:21] <puglisi> pike_: thanks, of course I will unmount them
[16:21] <soundray> argh: please use /msg ubotu repository if the factoid isn't relevant to an ongoing conversation
[16:21] <bluefox83> NET||abuse, drop it in ~/.gnome2/themes/
[16:21] <Name141> Hello, I have shared a folder, and when I go to \\192.168.0.2 (this computer) on the windows machine, it asks for user/pass , how do I turn that off?
[16:22] <NET||abuse> bluefox83, cool, yeh, figured it was simple enough like that :)
[16:22] <puglisi> pike_: anyway, does gparted really allow me to do anything on ext3 partitions which are also interweaved with fat32 partitions?
[16:22] <NET||abuse> bluefox83, thanks
[16:22] <soundray> argh: System-Admin-Software Sources
[16:22] <bluefox83> NET||abuse, or you can go to System->preferences->Appearance
[16:23] <bluefox83> and click on "Install"
[16:23] <bluefox83> it'll do all the work for you, even load it =)
[16:23] <Name141> Also I have tried my linux password/login and it doesn't work
[16:23] <NET||abuse> cool
[16:23] <marc_> hello
[16:23] <marc_> ola?
[16:24] <bluefox83> Name141, you might try in #samba
[16:24] <soundray> !samba > Name141, please read ubotu's private message. Pay special attention to instructions regarding smbpasswd
[16:24] <puglisi> ok, I'm going to try (after a full backup), bye
[16:25] <Lr5_> Is there a way to upgrade to 64 bit from 32 bit version without reformatting the (or part of) the hard disk?
[16:25] <Rayn_> hello
[16:25] <bluefox83> Lr5_, yeah, install the 64 bit kernel...then boot into it
[16:25] <Name141> OK, one more thing would be my screen saver doesn't activate after sitting idle
[16:26] <NET||abuse> bluefox83, dang,, did system->prefs->appearance,, pointed the install at the tar.gz,, didn't like it.
[16:26] <argh> where can i found dosemu?
[16:26] <Lr5_> bluefox83: do the programs update to 64 bit automatically?
[16:26] <bluefox83> Name141, System->preferences->screen saver  make sure it is actually set to come on when idle, and make sure the time is set correctly ;)
[16:26] <Rayn_> where is everyone from
[16:27] <achadwick> argh: dosemu is in the multiverse repository
[16:27] <Vlet> Name141: try putting "guest ok = yes" into your share config in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:27] <alfanick> Hi. I'm looking for console screensaver. I found cmatrix. Is there something else?
[16:27] <gran> argh, i had desktop effects working fine, i typed compiz in terminal and now it wont let me enable them. what have i done? how to fix?
[16:27] <bluefox83> Lr5_, i seriously doubt it...you'll need to install a 32 compatibility thing...i'm not really sure how do go about all that stuff though
[16:27] <Name141> Vlet, Do I have to edit that with root ?
[16:27] <Pici> alfanick: Some of the things in caca-utils are screensaver like.
[16:28] <GhostFiend> question: ubuntu on a MacBook, or ubuntu on anyother notebook
[16:28] <Vlet> Name141: hit alt-f2 and then type: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.cnf
[16:28] <Lr5_> bluefox83: kk, I'll check if there's some kind of guides about it, thanks for help
[16:28] <Rayn_> Wisconsin
[16:28] <bluefox83> GhostFiend, should work on either
[16:28] <troc_> alfanick, see if you can get the bb demo runing as a text based screensaver, its pretty cool
[16:28] <Lr5_> !64
[16:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:28] <jodde> Hi guys.
[16:28] <gran> argh, i had desktop effects working fine, i typed compiz in terminal and now it wont let me enable them. what have i done? how to fix?
[16:28] <jodde> Could anyone tell me what super cow powers do, apart from drawing an ASCII cow?
[16:28] <bluefox83> Lr5_, no prob..i'm pretty sure there's guides for it though..
[16:28] <bluefox83> !64bit
[16:28] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[16:28] <achadwick> argh: System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager has a search feature, but it can only see package repositories you're configured to download from
[16:28] <bluefox83> there you go ^_^
[16:29] <alfanick> Pici: Thanks, I will check it!
[16:29] <Lr5_> thanks
[16:29] <GhostFiend> bluefox83, with an intel cored mac, will i get the same usability as i would with a generic x86 computer?
[16:29] <achadwick> (bah, he left)
[16:29] <bluefox83> GhostFiend, uh..yeah...
[16:29] <alfanick> troc_: Yes, it is great for screensaver :)
[16:29] <bluefox83> GhostFiend, intel based chips are x86 architecture..
[16:29] <jodde> Could anyone tell me what super cow powers do, apart from drawing an ASCII cow?
[16:29] <GhostFiend> right, so basically its the same
[16:29] <bluefox83> jodde, that's pretty much it...
[16:29] <GhostFiend> are there any known hardware incompatabilties?
[16:30] <Pici> jodde: Thats the power.
[16:30] <achadwick> jodde: don't be silly. aptitude doesn't have any super cow posers...
[16:30] <achadwick> *powers
[16:30] <gran> i had desktop effects working fine, i typed compiz in terminal and now it wont let me enable them. what have i done? how to fix?
[16:30] <jodde> Mine does.
[16:30] <GhostFiend> I would assume the osx approved hardware should have no problems running linux?
[16:30] <jodde> And it asks me if I've mooed today.
[16:30] <achadwick> sssh.
[16:30] <Logixal> whats the best way to install SSH on 7.10 Server. I assume apt-get but what package is standard?
[16:30] <bluefox83> GhostFiend, uhm...you might want to check the ubuntu guides about it, but i don't think so
[16:30] <Vlet> Name141: oh, after you do that, you'll have to hit alt-f2 and then do: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[16:30] <GhostFiend> k
[16:30] <o7andrew> hi I'm a bit of a noob, does anyone know what kernel version 7.04 fiesty fawn has?
[16:30] <GhostFiend> sounds good
[16:30] <bluefox83> Logixal, i think it's just sshd
[16:31] <Logixal> thanks
[16:31] <Name141> Vlet, where do I put that? anywhere?
[16:31] <troc_> GhostFiend, depends on how bleeding edge it is. Best to give it some time before making that statement with full confidence.
[16:31] <soundray_> Logixal: it's openssh-server
[16:31] <bluefox83> i run an ssh server on a ubuntu server..pretty sure i installed sshd O.o
[16:31] <soundray_> bluefox83: please!
[16:31] <Logixal> Since root is not set during install does it disable it or should i be worring about some random password for root generated on the fly?
[16:31] <Vlet> Name141: hit alt-f2 and a 'run' box will show up
[16:31] <Name141> Vlet, I am talking about guest ok = yes
[16:31] <Name141> in the config
[16:32] <bluefox83> soundray_, please what? i don't remember which one i installed...
[16:32] <soundray_> Logixal: is that question related to your ssh installation?
[16:32] <Logixal> no
[16:32] <Vlet> Name141: see this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/samba-and-network-media-player-please-help-516455/
[16:32] <Logixal> overall
[16:32] <gran> i had desktop effects working fine, i typed compiz in terminal and now it wont let me enable them. what have i done? how to fix?
[16:32] <dv_> how do i speed up the mouse pointer (and i don't mean "acceleration")?
[16:32]  * jodde moos
[16:32] <jodde> Crap, that's what they do!  They turn you into a super cow!
[16:32] <soundray_> bluefox83: please only reply to questions if you're reasonably certain about the answer. About 50% of the time you're not helping when you answer here.
[16:32] <bluefox83> Logixal, you don't really get a root password with ubuntu, even server version uses sudo
[16:33] <Logixal> soundray_: Well in a way yes since SSH will be an opening, so I guess yes. Does that mean root will never be an issue with any package?
[16:33] <jodde> Yeah, about that, isn't there a default password?
[16:33] <bluefox83> soundray_, sshd does work...it's a choice to use openssh-server or sshd...
[16:33] <o7andrew> does anyone know what kernel version 7.04 fiesty fawn has?
[16:33] <Vlet> Logixal: as far as I know, it's a very good randomly generated pass, AND root login should be disabled in your sshd config anywho
[16:34] <soundray_> Logixal: yes, that's essentially true
[16:34] <Logixal> k
[16:34] <jodde> o7andrew:  Why not just get 7.10
[16:34] <jodde> It's the newest and most stable version.
[16:34] <troc_> jodde: no I think it is randomized, you can ofcourse just change it to some thing which you like with passwd
[16:34] <soundray_> Logixal: there is no root password in ubuntu. The account is locked.
[16:34] <medfly> o7andrew, uhm, i *think* im on 7.04, so 2.6.17-11-386 here
[16:35] <jodde> troc_  I need to find it actually, because I can't use kWallet for some reason.
[16:35] <o7andrew> the dell conexant winmodem drivers
[16:35] <medfly> or maybe i just updated it, i cant remember :)
[16:35] <Vlet> o7andrew: if you type "uname -r" in a terminal, it should show ya what kernel ya got
[16:35] <soundray_> bluefox83: there is no package called sshd
[16:35] <Logixal> soundray_: great so when setting up SSHd then you dont even need to worry about disabling root since its locked gloabal correct?
[16:35] <troc_> sudo su, then passwd and set it to something suitably complex.
[16:36] <bluefox83> walmart is going to start selling $198.00 computers without a monitor that have GOS linux (built on ubuntu 7.10)
[16:36] <achadwick> KDE/QT experts: is there a way of very minimally telling all QT apps what theme engine to use? I'd like the few QT apps I run to look like my GNOME desktop, and the only way I've found involves firing up the entirety of kcontrol.
[16:36] <Name141> Vlet, so I take it I need to place it in the [whateverisshared]
[16:36] <jodde> 2.6.22-14-generic here
[16:36] <Vlet> Name141: yar
[16:36] <kbrooks> anything on IT with Ubuntu? [it = information technology]
[16:36] <soundray_> Logixal: yes, correct. Also, even if you do enable a root password (don't! :-) ), you have to make an extra setting in sshd_config to enable remote root logins.
[16:36] <jodde> What sort of computers, bluefox?
[16:36] <o7andrew> Vlet:  I can't boot feisty, (in under an hour) ( exception emask ...frozen  errors)
[16:36] <kbrooks> i mean
[16:36] <bluefox83> soundray_, heh, musta discontinued that package in 7.10 then, i used sshd in feisty :P
[16:36] <troc_> kbrooks, ?
[16:37] <kbrooks> any articles on IT with Ubuntu? [it = information technology]
[16:37] <Name141> OK, one other thing is, is there a way to get a better erm.. "driver" for a VooDoo 3 3dfx 8MB ?
[16:37] <bluefox83> wait..no i didn't
[16:37] <gran> i had desktop effects working fine, i typed compiz in terminal and now it wont let me enable them. what have i done? how to fix?
[16:37] <kbrooks> soundray_, openssh-server
[16:37] <Logixal> why did they use GOS Linux vs. just using Ubuntu?
[16:37] <Logixal> I hate the way everything splits up
[16:37] <troc_> gran: is it already runing ?
[16:37] <soundray_> kbrooks: no need to tell me
[16:38] <soundray_> bluefox83: there is no sshd package in feisty either
[16:38] <bluefox83> soundray_, ok i see where i got confused, sshd is what runs, it's not the package
[16:38] <kbrooks> Logixal, other distros do a better job at this kind of thing
[16:38] <Name141> let me go check to see if this folder is accessable also
[16:38] <jaga_> what menu/app do I use to configure the number of virtual desktops (7.10)?
[16:38] <bluefox83> soundray_, i just ssh'd over to my server, did ps x and saw sshd running, then did an apt-cache search for sshd....
[16:38] <soundray_> bluefox83: that's my point, you're confused, but you still think you must give half-baked answers
[16:39] <bluefox83> soundray_, hey i'll admit when i'm wrong :)
[16:39] <jodde> Hey, if I get a Wii one of these days, can I use a Linux on it?
[16:39] <TiaGo|SouZa> hey, somebody here had problems installing windows after gutsy install?
[16:39] <jimcooncat> jaga_: right-click on the little virtual desktop panel app and choose preferences
[16:39] <jodde> Or do I have to use its native OS?
[16:39] <jodde> I know there's a way to get Linux on PS3.
[16:40] <soundray_> jodde: if you want to run Linux properly, don't get a game console to run it on. Or get one that runs Linux natively, e.g. gp2x
[16:40] <Logixal> kbrooks: but I thought Ubuntu copied from Debian was the attempt to do what GOS is doing, if that makes any sense
[16:40] <pike_> jodde: im not aware of a linux project for wii but im sure one exists.. given the specs i dont think itd be worth it
[16:40] <jaga_> jimcooncat: thought so. I did that, and I changed it to 1 row 4 cols (from 1x2) hit ok, and no change. Do I have to restart X do make the change?
[16:41] <Logixal> kbrooks: I guess my point is why use Ubuntu then
[16:41] <TiaGo|SouZa> hey, somebody here had problems installing windows after gutsy install?
[16:41] <jodde> Tia:  It probably has to do with your partitions.
[16:41] <soundray_> TiaGo|SouZa: apparently not, so no point repeating the question
[16:42] <jodde> Windows won't install on a .. whatever disk system Linux uses, disk system.
[16:42] <soundray_> TiaGo|SouZa: much better to say what your actual problem is.
[16:42] <TiaGo|SouZa> soundray_: hey, I have a big problem here and I'm trying to get some help
[16:42] <TiaGo|SouZa> ok?
[16:42] <bluefox83> Logixal, GOS is basically a ubuntu 7.10 with google icons and facebook quick access icons both on the desktop..and likely a new theme
[16:42] <TiaGo|SouZa> basically, windows is not installling, after I installed gutsy
[16:42] <TiaGo|SouZa> dunno why
[16:43] <bluefox83> TiaGo|SouZa, which partition are you trying to install windows on?
[16:43] <soundray_> TiaGo|SouZa: did you leave space for windows when you installed gutsy?
[16:43] <TiaGo|SouZa> yeah
[16:43] <soundray_> TiaGo|SouZa: where, and how much?
[16:43] <jodde> TiaGo|SouZa, try splitting up your partitions.  Have a Linux partition which is like EXT-32 or something, and dedicate part of your drive to Windows, which uses FAT-32.
[16:43] <pike_> also how may partition exist currently
[16:43] <bluefox83> TiaGo|SouZa, windows will always want to be on the first partition of the master drive...
[16:43] <TiaGo|SouZa> I already tried to install ONLY windows, and that didnt happen
[16:43] <Tidus> TiaGo|SouZa, if you're wanting to install windows on a system that has linux on it, install windows first, then install linux
[16:43] <TiaGo|SouZa> I erase everything, including gutsy
[16:44] <soundray_> bluefox83: again, that's not true
[16:44] <TiaGo|SouZa> Tidus: I did that
[16:44] <bluefox83> soundray_, it's true if you don't want to have to do chainloading
[16:44] <TiaGo|SouZa> but windows dont install even when gutsy is not in my computer
[16:44] <Trivi> nas
[16:44] <general> kojasiti
[16:44] <Tidus> TiaGo|SouZa, but, since you have wiped the drive clean, just erase all partitions on the hard disk then create a new one in windows setup
[16:44] <TiaGo|SouZa> even when Linux is not in mu computer
[16:45] <TiaGo|SouZa> Tidus: I did that, but didnt work
[16:45] <ctop> did you format to ntfs first tiago?
[16:45] <TiaGo|SouZa> yes
[16:45] <jodde> TiaGo|SouZa, just create an NTFS partition through fdisk.
[16:45] <TiaGo|SouZa> the slow one format
[16:45] <Tidus> TiaGo|SouZa, what windows are you installing in place?
[16:45] <danielbw> TiaGo|SouZa: then you need help from a Windows channel
[16:45] <general> kakosi
[16:45] <TiaGo|SouZa> xp
[16:45] <Tidus> TiaGo|SouZa, move to privmsg
[16:45] <medfly> theres a ##windows channel
[16:45] <gran> troc_, what do you mean already running? its set do "disabled" in appearance
[16:45] <TiaGo|SouZa> danielbw: well, that happened after I installed gutsy
[16:45] <o7andrew> just wondering, if a Ubuntu user has feisty and they use the dell conexant winmodem driver for it (krnl 2.6.20) What do they do with that driver when they upgrade to ?7.10?
[16:45] <soundray_> bluefox83: no, you can have Windows boot from any partition, as long as it starts within a certain offset from the beginning of the disk. Chainloading or not is irrelevant
[16:46] <TiaGo|SouZa> so I thought it would have something to do with NTFS writing that gutsy introduced
[16:46] <ponymask> i'm having some trouble installing anjuta
[16:46] <jodde> Hey, while we're on partitions, can I set up a partition for old DOS without destroying data?
[16:46] <danielbw> TiaGo|SouZa: if you have an empty partition table, then Windows install will work just fine.
[16:46] <GhostFiend> anyone know a good site to visit to find notebook hardware reviews?
[16:46] <jodde> Actually, never mind.
[16:46] <Logixal> ahhh gOS aka Goobuntu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu > pretty interesting
[16:46] <jodde> Does anyone know a good RAM disk program?
[16:46] <Tidus> TiaGo|SouZa, /join #helpmeout
[16:46] <TiaGo|SouZa> danielbw: afteru gutsy, that stopped happening here
[16:46] <rober1> anyone installed nv go6150 driver sucessufully?
[16:46] <troc_> gran: privmsg
[16:46] <danielbw> TiaGo|SouZa: have you tried doing the manufacturers drive low lever format?
[16:46] <TiaGo|SouZa> ok
[16:46] <soundray_> jodde: have you got a special reason for wanting a RAM disk?
[16:47] <danielbw> TiaGo|SouZa: have you tried doing the drive manufacturer's drive low level format?
[16:47] <jodde> soundray_, I would rather not say, but yes.
[16:47] <TiaGo|SouZa> nop
[16:47] <medfly> TiaGo|SouZa, go to the ##windows channel, or something.
[16:47] <bluefox83> TiaGo|SouZa, here's what i suggest, pop in a livecd like knoppix or the ubuntu livecd, format the entire drive and remove the partitions, format to fat32, then pop in your windows install disk, partition the drive the way you want it, put windows on the first partition, and linux on anything following, that's my advise, take it or leave it as you will
[16:48] <jodde> Do you know of one, soundray_ ?
[16:48] <TiaGo|SouZa> bluefox83: thanks
[16:48] <mkz> ok, I've just had my system hang for the third time in as many days.  I need to know what log files I can look at to help me figure out why this is happening.  I'm running on a freshly installed copy of kubuntu gutsy.  Any suggestions?
[16:48] <medfly> TiaGo|SouZa, it could be just an issue with windows.. it happens ;)
[16:48] <bluefox83> TiaGo|SouZa, that's the "easy" way that i know of. there are likely more ways to do it, but that's how *I* know.
[16:48] <soundray_> jodde: you don't need extra software. Give me a minute
[16:48] <s00p> It "krashed"! ha ha ha I krack myself up
[16:48] <troc_> mkz:full hang or just X ?
[16:48] <mkeith_> I just did the upgrade from feisty to gutsy everything went except now I can't boot into windows any more any ideas for a fix for this/
[16:49] <gran> troc_,  i pmed you... no reply ? :o
[16:49] <mkz> troc_: full hang
[16:49] <ponymask> i run ./configure on anjuta-2.2.2 and it said i needed to install gnome-doc-utils-0.10.3. So i got that but i'm not able to install that either
[16:49] <jodde> pony, anjuta is a pita.  Try kDevelop.
[16:49] <gran> troc_, Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[16:50] <troc_> mkz: not easy but serial logging, or logging to another server ?
[16:50] <achadwick> mkz: including Magic SysRq keys (google) and Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[16:50] <o7andrew> Ubuntu user has feisty and they use the dell conexant winmodem driver for it (krnl 2.6.20) What do they do with that driver when they upgrade to gutsy?
[16:50] <bluefox83> mkeith_, make sure you still have a windows entry in your grub config file, i think it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:50] <gran> troc_, /j #helpmetroc
[16:50] <ponymask> i wasn't sure what the best text editor(C++) would be for GNOME
[16:50] <mkeith_> I have it
[16:50] <Name141> Vlet, I still get the same thing
[16:51] <Name141> it wants a login
[16:51] <awag> does anyone know the name of the search program that came with feisty fawn, that allowed you to specify a location, harddrive, ect to search in, without having to do indexing ?
[16:51] <jodde> What the hell is CTRL-ALT-F1?
[16:51] <kantor> hi, what is a meta package ?
[16:52] <jodde> Is that a real terminal?
[16:52] <LjL> Jobias: a key combination?
[16:52] <spideyman> awag>konquerer
[16:52] <mojo> ctrl-alt f1-fn switches between virtual terminals
[16:52] <mkz> achadwick: yes to ctrl-alt-f1.  I don't think I have a sysrq key defined.  I'm using an older Type M (101) keyboard which does have a SysRq key, but I never defined it.
[16:52] <RandomUsr> hello
[16:52] <mojo> your X session lives on vt6 usually
[16:52] <mkz> troc_: I have not enabled any logging beyond whatever default logging kubuntu is configured for
[16:53] <awag> spideyman, not konquerer, like, it was just in the main menu, and it said "search" it wasn't strigi or beagle or anything that i'm aware of
[16:53] <awag> but it worked great for me
[16:53] <RandomUsr> has anyone here used knetwork manager for gnome?
[16:53] <bluefox83> no O.o
[16:53] <mkz> achadwick: I see that the sysrq key is actually a key combo.  let me print the page for future reference
[16:54] <mojo> is using the medibuntu repository the preferred way to get w64codecs and such, or is there another suggested method?
[16:54] <jodde> Odd, mojo.  Mine is on 7.
[16:54] <mkeith_> bluefox83 do you have any more ideas on how I can get back into windows
[16:54] <mojo> jodde, um, i stand corrected.  my bad
[16:55] <bluefox83> mkeith_, did you fix your menu.lst?
[16:55] <Sander_> is it possible to use compiz-fusion on a nvidia go card (64 Mb)?
[16:55] <mkeith_> yes it was always there and it still won't boot into windows
[16:55] <RandomUsr> sander, yes
[16:55] <arpharazon> Hello, I had /home on a different partition, so I formatted the / part and installed ubuntu, telling it to mount my home partition on /home. Now all my programs are gone.
[16:56] <mkz> troc_: I'm looking in /var/log and have found such files as syslog, lastlog, and others.  Might there be something of evidence in one of these?
[16:56] <bluefox83> mkeith_, it's not commented out with a # is it?
[16:56] <Sander_> RandomUsr: why doesn't it start then on a default ubuntu 7.10 install?
[16:56] <mkeith_> nope
[16:56] <RandomUsr> sander if you platform supports allocating system RAM then you could get better perfomance
[16:57] <Sander_> RandomUsr: but right now ubuntu refuses to enable the optoin
[16:57] <bluefox83> mkeith_, do sudo update-grub
[16:57] <Sander_> option*
[16:57] <sten> Hi, im trying to install pidgin. I unpacked both tar and bz2 and now i have to use ./config. But if i do it, it gives me an error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH. What should be my next step?
[16:57] <RandomUsr> sander, are you able to start it after youŕe booted?
[16:57] <mkeith_> did that
[16:57] <Sander_> RandomUsr: nope
[16:57] <bluefox83> mkeith_, did it list the windows option?
[16:57] <mkeith_> yes
[16:57] <LjL> sten: if you're on Gutsy, pidgin is in the repositories. why not use that? if you're not on Gutsy, you could consider upgrading
[16:57] <arpharazon> arpharazon something
[16:57] <jodde> Well I'll bbl.
[16:57] <bluefox83> mkeith_, when did you do that, have you rebooted since?
[16:57] <mkeith_> no
[16:57] <troc_> mkz: if you are lucky, perhaps in syslog or messages
[16:58] <bluefox83> mkeith_, reboot, should be an option now ;)
[16:58] <RandomUsr> sander, hit alt+f2
[16:58] <RandomUsr> and type ccsm
[16:58] <mkeith_> will try thanks
[16:58] <bluefox83> mkeith_, no problem
[16:58] <mkz> troc_: I'm pooring through them now.  Not at all sure what to look for... a mem dump or some other error I suspect.
[16:58] <sten> im in 7.04, but i dont wish to upgrade
[16:59] <sten> isnt there an alternative?
[16:59] <locellcount> might be ot, but does anyone know why gdesklets won't run on gutsy? I thought it might be compiz playing up, but it still doesn't work under metacity. I get a connection to daemon timeout
[16:59] <medfly> how do i get the /etc/resolv.conf file to stop changing? something always changes it to another nameserver (a 10.something one) at boot..
[16:59] <arpharazon> Oh well... Can anyone help me? I installed ubuntu over my old one, the program binaries are there but ubuntu doesn't seem to realize it.
[16:59] <Zzoli> Hello!Could anyone help me to upgrade my os to gusty gibbon?I'm getting error message each time I try upgrading
[16:59] <LjL> sten: type « sudo apt-get install build-essential » and then try again
[16:59] <medfly> arpharazon, over your older one what?
[16:59] <Zzoli> :)
[16:59] <bluefox83> sten, you can get pidgin for feisty on getdeb.net i never had any problems with their version
[16:59] <m11> !upgrade
[16:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:00] <sten> okay, thanks
[17:00] <arpharazon> medfly Yeah over the old one. The / partition got formatted, but I still have the stuff in /home.
[17:00] <Pici> medfly: Edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add a line that says: prepend domain-name-servers xx.xx.xx.xx xx.xx.xx.xx    (with your preffered DNS server(s) of course)
[17:02] <tadah> Hello, I'm in failsafe mode now. Everything's cool here. But if I try to go on normal GNOME session, I enter my login and password, it starts loading, then the screen goes black and throws me back into the login screen. What could be wrong? And how could I fix it? Thanks
[17:02] <mojo> I am a little confused over package management tools.  I have used apt-get and synaptic, but on my fresh gutsy ubuntu-studio (amd64) install i have been trying aptitude from the command line.  is it a bad idea to mix methods?  should i stick with one over the other?  will synaptic or apt-get keep in pace with dependencies and such tracked by aptitude?  i have never understood what aptitude does different or if it stores data in it's own db
[17:02] <mojo>  or whatever
[17:02] <medfly> Pici, thanks alot :)
[17:03] <Alejandr0> hello, i think i got a hardware problem and i was told that ubuntu can tell u if its true. Wheres the path oh the problems encountered?
[17:03] <arpharazon> Why doesn't gparted let me unmount my /home partition?
[17:04] <LjL> mojo, aptitude used to be the only APT package managed that tracker automatically-installed packages and could remove them when no longer needed. as of late, that feature has been built into Ubuntu's APT, so it's available from any front-end. I believe that the aptitude and the APT databases for that are, in theory, synced, but i am not sure there won't ever be any mismatches
[17:04] <genii> tadah: You might want to examine the last parts of the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log   for clues on whats failing
[17:04] <Pici> arpharazon: Are you running from the liveCD or are you logged in?
[17:04] <DeFirence> hmm
[17:04] <achadwick> mojo: it's fine. It's all the same system under the hood.
[17:04] <soundray> mojo: you can mix and match package managers as you like -- they all operate on the same backend. Just make sure you exit one before you use another.
[17:04] <LjL> mojo: nevertheless, nothing really bad should happen by mixing methods
[17:04] <burg> help please. i exposed my problem, but got no answer :|
[17:05] <burg> !mp3
[17:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:05] <Pici> mojo: I *think* that synaptic doesnt respect apt/aptititudes pinning preferences, and vice versa, but I could be wrong about that.
[17:05] <lusien> good evening all... just a question... is it possible while being root to launch a program with less privileges? (ie a script run with sudo...)
[17:05] <achadwick> soundray, mojo: there's an interlock that prevents anyone running two Debian-style package managers at the same time, luckily.
[17:05] <LjL> burg: try « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras » from a terminal
[17:05] <Alejandr0> hello, i think i got a hardware problem and i was told that ubuntu can tell u if its true. Wheres the path oh the problems encountered?
[17:05] <Pici> lusien: try su otherusename program
[17:05] <arpharazon> Pici No I'm logged in.
[17:05] <mnk3ym4n> oh man I need help... I just installed ubuntu 7.04, then clicked 'continue using livecd'.  I did an LVM setup, so I *must* chroot into the just-installed environment and aptitude install lvm2.  When I "sudo chroot /target" it fails... what's the proper way to chroot into my newly-installed setup from the livecd?  mount /, mount /boot, mount proc (how?), then chroot <root mountpoint>?
[17:05] <genii> Pici: Yes theres some long outstanding pinning bug
[17:05] <FructoVonMeatHea> .
[17:05] <lusien> thanks pici... i'll try...
[17:05] <LjL> lusien: su --login -c "command" username
[17:05] <medfly> Pici, it actually works! :-) thanks
[17:06] <Pici> arpharazon: It wont let you unmount because its in use.
[17:06] <FructoVonMeatHea> hello?
[17:06] <Pici> medfly: yay
[17:06] <soundray> Alejandr0: it depends on the problem. Try describing what it is.
[17:06] <LjL> !hi | FructoVonMeatHea
[17:06] <ubotu> FructoVonMeatHea: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:06] <arpharazon> Pici So what do I do? Boot from liveCD?
[17:06] <FructoVonMeatHea> !hello
[17:06] <Pici> arpharazon: Indeed, I was just going to suggest that.
[17:06] <Zzoli> Does Wine influences my upgrading to gusty gibbon?
[17:06] <soundray> arpharazon: if you want to modify partitions, yes
[17:06] <mojo> soundray, okay.  that makes me feel better.  i just don't understand why aptitude is said to be better at removing software later and that if you install with apt-get, then aptitude won't be able to do as good a job... makes me think aptitude keeps it's on db, if even just supplimentary to the apt db
 ubuntu is crashing often
[17:06] <Fructo> hello
[17:06] <LjL> Zzoli: how did you install it?
[17:06] <soundray> mojo: it used to be true. Not anymore, though.
[17:07] <genii> mnk3ym4n: try /target/ instead of /target
[17:07] <mojo> Pici, what is a pinning reference, in a nutshell?  or should i just google it up?
[17:07] <arpharazon> Pici Oh ok... Oh, when I boot from the livecd, gparted is a real pain in the ass. I unmount a partition, all the others get mounted back on, it takes me about a minute to finally unmount them.
[17:07] <soundray> Alejandr0: randomly, or always at the same point?
[17:07] <LjL> Fructo, feel free to ask your question
[17:07] <Zzoli> LjL: I followed some instuctions that were featured in a youtube video to install wine
[17:07] <Fructo> LjL: what if i dont have one :P
[17:07] <Alejandr0> randomly since my xp sp2 got completely unstable
[17:07] <LjL> Zzoli: ...
[17:07] <soundray> arpharazon: disable automounting - System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media
[17:07] <Pici> arpharazon: Thats odd.  You could try from the gparted live cd, (some googleing involved) if you think its an Ubuntu problem.
[17:07] <LjL> Fructo: then lurk :)
[17:08] <Zzoli> why?
 randomly since my xp sp2 got completely unstable
[17:08] <LjL> Zzoli: output of « apt-cache policy wine » in the pastebin please
[17:08] <arpharazon> Ah, automounting must be it.
[17:08]  * Fructo is lurking
[17:08] <LjL> Zzoli: because that's a stupid way to learn how to install software?
[17:08] <arpharazon> Ok thanks guys
[17:08] <Logixal> is there something like chkconfig for starting and stopping standard services?
[17:08] <LjL> Logixal: sudo invoke-rc.d <service-name> start|stop|restart|force-reload
[17:08] <dv_> I just pooped all over my xorg.conf. how do I fix this?
[17:08] <boris> ubuntu wont detect my samsung mobile phone
[17:09] <soundray> Alejandr0: it's reasonable to suspect your hardware then. First, make sure that none of the fans are blocked. Then, run memtest86 from the grub boot menu for a couple of hours.
[17:09] <R00KIE> hello everyone, i have booted with the amd64 7.10 ubuntu but i can't get network access (at my school it is configured by dhcp) with xp it works but i can't figure it out in ubuntu
[17:09] <LjL> !xconfig > dv_    (dv_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:09] <Zzoli> i'm sorry i'm still a newbie in linux..
[17:09] <Pici> dv_: Nice metaphor.  `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[17:09] <soundray> Alejandr0: memtest86 will tell you if you have bad ram.
[17:09] <mnk3ym4n> genii: no dice... still doesn't work... I think the installed unmounted /target/ when I clicked continue to use livecd
[17:09] <Logixal> LjL that will work for start stop but i was wondering about what starts at boot
[17:09] <bluefox83> boris, how are you trying to connect with it? bluetooth or usb?
[17:09] <Logixal> anything in init.d that is +x basically?
 ok, whats hans though
[17:09] <Alejandr0> fans
[17:10] <LjL> Logixal: "man update-rc.d" to change what starts at boot
[17:10] <arpharazon> Hi again, which plays nicer with the other's apps, KDE or Gnome?
[17:10] <dido67> Hola....
[17:10] <genii> mnk3ym4n: try: sudo chroot /target/ /bin/bash
[17:10] <uplinked> can someone please help with compiz? It broke in the update two days ago, reinstalling it wont help, my effects are gone, and all my shortcuts are broken...
[17:10] <soundray> Alejandr0: rotating things that move air and cool your computer
[17:10] <dv_> thanks guys
[17:10] <LjL> arpharazon: Ubuntu's KDE comes with a wrapper to GTK, which makes GTK/GNOME applications look more like Qt/KDE ones.
[17:10] <Logixal> thank you
[17:10] <bluefox83> uplinked, remove all the video drivers you had installed, turn off compiz, restart, then reinstall the drivers and turn compiz back on...that was a problem i had too
[17:10] <dido67> c'è qualche italiano?
[17:10] <Pici> !it | dido67
[17:10] <ubotu> dido67: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:11] <uplinked> bluefox83, how do i find which video drivers i have installed?
[17:11] <dido67> ok
 how do i do that and that couldnt cause the cpu to get fried?
[17:11] <soundray> Alejandr0: ventilador perhaps?
[17:11] <Sander_> RandomUsr: I'
[17:11] <uplinked> bluefox83, i think it's just the intel one, but i can't remember the package name
[17:11] <burg> i can`t find ubuntu-restricted-extras in synaptic package manager
[17:11] <RandomUsr> sander?
[17:11] <RandomUsr> yes?
[17:11] <Sander_> RandomUsr: I'm not behind that notebook right now... but I know ccsm
[17:11] <anthony__> Hi, my screens and graphics on gutsy doesnt work well, can I still manually edit the xorg.conf ?
[17:11] <soundray> Alejandr0: you just look at them and see if they are rotating.
[17:11] <LjL> Zzoli, i told you to pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy wine », please do that.
[17:11] <bluefox83> uplinked, System->Administration-> Restricted Drivers manager will tell you
[17:11] <Sander_> what options do I need to change?
[17:11] <mnk3ym4n> genii: failed
[17:12] <arpharazon> LjL What about actual function? When I had Kopete on gnome it had these weird issues with sending files and opening links.
[17:12] <RandomUsr> Sander, what version of Ubuntu?
[17:12] <Sander_> RandomUsr: because beryl was able to work on that notebook
[17:12] <soundray> Alejandr0: if they are stuck because of dirt, turn your computer off, pull the power cord and clean them carefully
[17:12] <uplinked> bluefox83, thanks so much!
[17:12] <Sander_> RandomUsr: 7.10
[17:12] <LjL> arpharazon: can't really say.
 ok, i misread your post
[17:12] <Alejandr0> ty
[17:12] <bluefox83> uplinked, don't thank me till you get it working >.>
[17:12] <LjL> arpharazon: i try to use KDE apps exclusively - and if i were on GNOME, i'd tend to use GNOME apps exclusively.
[17:12] <bluefox83> uplinked, it's a pain in the butt sometimes
[17:12] <izm91> my machine appears to be functioning but not accepting any X input.  How can I re-start the X input stuff... keyboard and mouse?
[17:12] <lammy> hi how can i mount a iso-file without using my cdrom?
[17:12] <LjL> !mountiso > lammy    (lammy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:13] <izm91> (i'm ssh'd into it)
[17:13]  * bluefox83 uses both kde apps and gnome apps, in gnome
[17:13] <uplinked> bluefox83, nothing listed in the restricted manager, i'll go diving through xorg.conf and synaptic to find them
[17:13] <Pici> izm91: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart  (this will restart your entire X session)
[17:13] <RandomUsr> Sander, did you install the restricted drivers?
[17:13] <arpharazon> LjL Well, it seems all the apps I like end up being KDE ones. =/
[17:13] <boris> bluefox83 : USB
[17:13] <soundray> !mountiso > lammy, please read the private message from ubotu
[17:13] <achadwick> anthony__: sure. Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:13] <bluefox83> uplinked, ok...good luck to you
[17:13] <uplinked> thanks, i'll let you know how it works
[17:13] <bluefox83> boris, you might try usbview to see if it's even seeing it...
[17:13] <Sander_> RandomUsr: sure
[17:13] <soundray> oops, too slow
[17:13] <izm91> Pici: any way to NOT restart the entire session?
[17:13] <lammy> ah! thanks i seek it ...
[17:13] <LjL> arpharazon: well if they're a big majority, then why not just switch to KDE?
[17:13] <RandomUsr> Sander, are you positive?
[17:13] <Pici> izm91: Not to do what you're asking.
[17:13] <Sander_> RandomUsr: 100% :)
[17:13] <izm91> :(
[17:14] <izm91> so i basically won't know what the problem is, either.
[17:14] <RandomUsr> Sander, cuz if you didn´t then things Compiz won´t work
[17:14] <Sander_> RandomUsr: got that ugly splash screen before x starts :)
[17:14] <boris> bluefox83 : i see a icon 'connected to computer' on my phone, but i cant see it on the computer
[17:14] <arpharazon> LjL I did read something about gnome being faster. though my performance problems are probably due to poor configuration.
[17:14] <RandomUsr> not sure I´m aware of that one
[17:14] <anthony__> achadwick: 10x, I am using gutsy on my laptop and would like to use a 19 inch tft when i connect it to it, and the laptop's monitor when not connected, can this be done without changing the xorg.conf file every time i want to change monitors? 10x
[17:14] <bluefox83> boris, i wouldn't think you would...you might have to mount it like a usb drive
[17:14] <izm91> my capslock on my keyboard doesn't even toggle the LED anymore.
[17:14] <LjL> arpharazon: also, you do know that you can have GNOME and KDE installed at the same time, and choose your session at login. and if you already have many KDE applications installed, installing KDE won't even take up much further space
[17:14] <boris> bluefox83 : how ?
[17:14] <RandomUsr> Sander, did you check the box to enable desktop effects?
[17:15] <Sander_> RandomUsr: well there is one.. but I knew that.. the problem is (when I start it from a console) that compiz needs more then 64 Mb Ram...
[17:15] <JackDirty> Anyone play poker over at FullTilt Poker? If so, do they support Linux?
[17:15] <LjL> arpharazon, and i read plenty of stuff about KDE being faster. it's all subjective and depends on *what* is being benchmarked. disregard that sort of claims.
[17:15] <bluefox83> boris, i have no idea, you might try looking for some guides though...someone out there must have figured out how to do it
[17:15] <soundray> Trouble installing the ati.com driver: bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy gives me this error: cp: cannot stat `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri': No such file or directory. Any hints or tips?
[17:15] <mnk3ym4n> I think I got it....
[17:15] <Sander_> RandomUsr: at least that was what I understood from the error message
[17:15] <Zzoli> Ljl: http://pastebin.com/f58c7c6ea
[17:15] <eugo> JackDirty why not try with wine?
[17:15] <tadah> Hello, I'm in failsafe mode now. Everything's cool here. But if I try to go on normal GNOME session, I enter my login and password, it starts loading, then the screen goes black and throws me back into the login screen. How could I fix it? Thanks
[17:15] <arpharazon> LjL Would you happen to have read anything about Opera startup times?
[17:15] <arpharazon> LjL Or openoffice?
[17:16] <JackDirty> Wine is a emulator?
[17:16] <Zzoli> yes..
[17:16] <achadwick> anthony__: good question, and I'm uncertain how you'd go about it. Especially if your ain panel is playing up.
[17:16] <LjL> Zzoli: you're using WINE from the WineHQ repository. that shouldn't cause any problems on upgrade, however i recommand that, for additional safety, you temporarily remove that repository from your list
[17:16] <achadwick> *main panel
[17:16] <Sander_> JackDirty: sort of.. you can run windows apps with it
[17:16] <RandomUsr> Sander, thatś a laptop yes?
[17:16] <Sander_> RandomUsr: yep
[17:16] <JackDirty> Oh... cool! Thanks for the tips! I will try that!
[17:16] <LjL> arpharazon: not recently. what's the deal with those, though? they're neither GNOME apps nor KDE apps
[17:16] <bluefox83> tadah, that sounds like a tricky problem there...
[17:17] <achadwick> Isn't System >Admin>Screens+Graphics supposed to handle multiple monitors these days?
[17:17] <eugo> JackDirty: www.winehq.org
[17:17] <RandomUsr> Sander, can you allocate more system RAM to the Video Card?
[17:17] <mnk3ym4n> sudo mount /dev/vglvmd1d2/root /newroot && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /newroot/boot && sudo mount -t proc /proc /newroot/proc && chroot /newroot ???
[17:17] <axelraziel> its only english''
[17:17] <izm91> Pici: thanks, that worked.  though i lost my information and don't know what the problem was...  :P  Now my capslock toggles the light on the keyboard again and everything seems to be normal.
[17:17] <JackDirty> eugo: superb! Thanks a million!
[17:17] <sublime> who wants to help meeeeee
[17:17] <JackDirty> and wish me luck :-)
[17:17] <anthony__> achadwick: previously on feisty, (out of the box) whenever the tft monitor was connected its display used to show, and when not connected the laptops monitor shows, but this has changed in gutsy
[17:17] <Pici> izm91: Weird.
[17:17] <tadah> bluefox83, any ideas how to solve it? :/
[17:17] <LjL> !ask | sublime
[17:17] <ubotu> sublime: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:17] <arpharazon> LjL, does that mean they'll run the same on both?
[17:17] <achadwick> anthony__: Intel chipset at all?
[17:17] <Sander_> RandomUsr: no clue how to do that..
[17:18] <anthony__> achadwick: nvidia 7300 go
[17:18] <RandomUsr> ok, who´s the manufacturer of your laptop?
[17:18] <uplinked> bluefox83, I'm about to remove xserver-xorg-video-intel, does that sound right to you? (I know I'm on the intel driver, is this the right package?)
[17:18] <bluefox83> tadah, only thing i can think of is to reconfigure xorg.conf with sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg, but i might be wrong...that's just all i can think of
[17:18] <sublime> I have dapper drake installed currently and can't install 7.04 or 7.10. When I try xserver fails and says there's no screen
[17:18] <bluefox83> uplinked, sounds about right...
[17:18] <Sander_> RandomUsr: Toshiba
[17:18] <Sander_> RandomUsr: M200 Portege to be exact :)
[17:18] <bluefox83> uplinked, be aware, after you remove it, you need to kill X and reinstall it from terminal...
[17:18] <LjL> arpharazon, not necessarily. Opera uses Qt by default, which is the same toolkit used by KDE... however, i believe that Opera has Qt statically linked in, so i'm afraid that won't give any performance advantages. OpenOffice uses GTK as a back-end, but the slowness at startup is probably 99% *not* due to GTK, so there will hardly be any difference
[17:19] <soundray> sublime: are you trying to upgrade or a fresh install?
[17:19] <RandomUsr> Sander, something doesn´t seem quite right
[17:19] <sublime> soundray, upgrade
[17:19] <uplinked> bluefox83, figured that'd happen. thanks!
[17:19] <arnducky_> sublime, Ubuntu usually requires stepwise upgrades, have you tried Edgy Eft *before* stepping up again to Feisty?
[17:19] <sublime> edgy eft would be 6.10?
[17:19] <bluefox83> uplinked, no prob, i hope it works for ya =)
[17:19] <arpharazon> LjL In that case I guess I'm going with KDE.
[17:19] <achadwick> anthony__: I won't be able to help, but a dig through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs for gutsy and your model number may help
[17:19] <soundray> sublime: if you're upgrading, you have to go via edgy (6.10).
[17:19] <LjL> arpharazon, i suggest that you just try installing kubuntu-desktop, test it for a couple of days/weeks, and see how comfortable you are with it. you can always go back to GNOME at any time.
[17:19] <RandomUsr> Sander type this into xchat text:   / join # compiz-fusion
[17:19] <anthony__> achadwick: 10x ill take it from there
[17:19]  * achadwick heads off in the general direction of a weekend
[17:19] <RandomUsr> sander, but without the spaces
[17:20] <soundray> sublime: it's probably more trouble than it's worth. Do a backup and a reinstall using 7.10.
[17:20] <sublime> soundray, where can i get edgy iso from?
[17:20] <Sander_> I'm already in that channel.. I'm not new to linux/compiz...
[17:20] <sublime> soundray, that's the thing, i can't
[17:20] <Sander_> RandomUsr: But I just can't figure this out by myself
[17:20] <arnducky_> Also, you might wish to start with a fresh install *after* backing up and then restore/reinstall programs on the new Feisty or Gutsy
[17:20] <LjL> arpharazon, also, KOffice is much faster to startup that OpenOffice, and also features an interesting interface, although it's less mature and a bit too prone to crash
[17:20] <soundray> sublime: why?
[17:20] <Sander_> RandomUsr: well I'll try them for further advise.. thanks for your time!
[17:21] <psofa> anyone knows how can i stop the fb spash at bootup,and how cani boot into text mode? thanks
[17:21] <RandomUsr> Sander, np
[17:21] <sublime> soundray, i run the live cd and it tries to start gnome, it flashes, and then it says running local boot scripts and then it just hangs
[17:21] <arpharazon> LjL I did use KDE for a couple of months about a year ago. Then I installed gnome, mostly out of curiosity. I don't like having two desktop managers though.
[17:21] <LjL> arpharazon: i wasn't proposing that you *kept* two desktop managers - just for a period of time, until you settled on one.
[17:21] <soundray> sublime: have you tried the Safe Graphics option from the boot menu?
[17:21] <sublime> soundray: yeah
[17:21] <arnducky_> sublime, how long do you wait?  I've seen Ubuntu installs 'hang' for over an hour at some stages and still successfully complete
[17:21] <ponymask> has anyone use gbuilder?
[17:22] <ponymask> used*
[17:22] <sublime> arnducky_: 10 minutes at the most lol
[17:22] <skeeel> hello after a 7.04 to 7.10 upgrade i get /usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9190 Erreur de segmentation  (core dumped) "$prog" ${1+"$@"} when i try to start firefox
[17:22] <arnducky_> sublime, why don't you pastebin your hardware config ... oh then try being patient RIGHT NOW -- heh
[17:22] <arpharazon> LjL Ah
[17:22] <sublime> arnducky_: xorg.conf?
[17:23] <skeeel> any idea about the issue ?
[17:23] <soundray> sublime: consider using the alternate CD
[17:23] <soundray> !alternate | sublime
[17:23] <ubotu> sublime: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[17:23] <sublime> soundray: i did that and it didn't work
[17:23] <soundray> sublime: how did that fail then?
[17:23] <lusien> Ljl: works with su -c... do you think it's safe to launch su user -c epiphany? this script must be root because it's under /etc/acpi...
[17:23] <sublime> soundray: like nothing installed. Half of the stuff said it was corrupted and then the kernel didn't install etc
[17:24] <arnducky_> sublime, what about xorg.conf, and also, I recommend taking an 40 min - one hour (or whatever, depending on your hardware) to validate the Ubuntu install media
[17:24] <arpharazon> What's the difference between the kubuntu cd and dvd?
[17:24] <LjL> lusien: i can't think why you would start epiphany from a root script that's run at boot (assuming it is)... but as far as i know, it should be safe. make sure there is "--login" too, though
[17:24] <soundray> sublime: that was a bad CD probably
[17:24] <LjL> arpharazon: the DVD contains more packages.
[17:24] <LjL> arpharazon: but you can get them from the internet using APT anyway
[17:25] <sublime> so two things to try are waiting longer for the live cd and using the 7.10 alternate cd?
[17:25] <sten> can anyone give me a link to pidgin debian package?
[17:25] <lusien> no it's a script that runs after i press a hotkey on my keyboard
[17:25] <arnducky_> sublime, my paranoia *almost* always compells me to do this by calculating a checksum and comparing it to a GPG signed hash from an official source
[17:25] <arpharazon> LjL Oh ok then... By the way, I can't pick what packages are on my livecd, can I?
[17:25] <lusien> it's managed by /acpi/events...
[17:25] <argh> !multivers
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <argh> !multiverse
[17:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[17:25] <soundray> skeeel: it might be your firefox configuration. Try a 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup', then start firefox
[17:25] <argh> !repository
[17:26] <LjL> !customlivecd > arpharazon    (arpharazon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:26] <arnducky_> sublime, if you trust your burner/software/blanks then doing the checksum on the .ISO makes sense because it's much faster
[17:26] <uplinked> bluefox83, no luck :-(
[17:27] <argh> can you past me a complete sources.list ?? :D
[17:27] <bluefox83> uplinked, aww man, that sucks :(
[17:27] <dn4> lets say I do mv filename /dir
[17:27] <Pici> !easysource | argh
[17:27] <ubotu> argh: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[17:27] <dn4> and I move another file with the exact same name
[17:27] <arpharazon> LjL, Meh, I was hoping I could bring the download size down by getting rid of stuff I don't use.
[17:27] <dn4> will it automatically over write that other file?
[17:27] <dn4> previously mv
[17:27] <sublime> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fmirrors.gigenet.com%2Fubuntu%2F&debug=%5B%27country_US%27%2C+%27country_UK%27%2C+%27continent_NA%27%5D&download-button=&alternatecd=alternate is the one im downloading now
[17:27] <uplinked> bluefox83, do you have any other guesses? right now, i can't even figure out what's wrong, much less troubleshoot it.
[17:27] <neverblue> dn4 mv does overwritting
[17:28] <arnducky_> sublime, and of course you can just wait for snail-mail and get a free CD from Cannonical or buy one on-line
[17:28] <bluefox83> uplinked, the only problem is compiz?
[17:28] <dn4> neverblue, nice
[17:28] <dn4> thank you
[17:28] <neverblue> np
[17:28] <uplinked> bluefox83, yes. Emerald is working correctly, I have the theme, but no compiz effects, and all of my gnome shortcuts don't work
[17:29] <sublime> arnducky_ i will not degrade myself like that lol
[17:29] <bluefox83> uplinked, whoa...that's weird...
[17:29] <bluefox83> uplinked, i had issues with mine, but i was using old nvidia drivers, had to remove them and start over from scratch...
[17:30] <Lawke> hi, how do I install a GTK theme ???
[17:30] <uplinked> bluefox83, i know. the oddest part is that WinKey+R used to be mapped to "Run Application", but when this started, I started getting the compiz-zoom effect from Win+R, even after compiz "broke"
[17:30] <argh> Pici: i don't found dosemu :(
[17:30] <Pici> argh: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:30] <bluefox83> uplinked, i think there is a conflict someplace...
[17:30] <sublime> lawke: pm
[17:30] <argh> Pici: how can i know that?
[17:31] <bluefox83> uplinked, did you try typing "ccsm" into terminal and poking around to see whats turned on and stuff?
[17:31] <uplinked> bluefox83, ccsm won't start
[17:31] <Zzoli> Upgrading to gusty gibbon fails again:( Look what error message i get: http://pastebin.com/f3d148741
[17:31] <Lawke> sublime, I cant
[17:31] <uplinked> i'll paste the output, sec
[17:31] <Lawke> its blocked
[17:31] <bluefox83> uplinked, try doing a psx and look for it, it might be running and not showing up..i had that problem a *LOT*
[17:31] <sublime> lawke: system>preferences>themes>install
[17:31] <bluefox83> uplinked, i mean ps x
[17:32] <uplinked> http://rafb.net/p/shuiPw50.html
[17:32] <neverblue> argh, u installed Ubuntu, didnt you?
[17:32]  * Emperor wita frenchmana
[17:32] <Lawke> sublime, I downloaded one, but if I go in the map it doesn't reconize it
[17:32] <sublime> lawke: is it .tar.gz?
[17:32] <Pici> argh: type lsb_release -a on a terminal
[17:32] <Lawke> no it was a zip file
[17:32] <Lawke> I unzipped it
[17:32] <sublime> lawke: what was in it?
[17:33] <Lawke> like 7 files
[17:33] <uplinked> bluefox83, ccsm isn't in ps x, but compiz + compiz.real both are
[17:33] <Lawke> wait i'll give you the link
[17:33] <Lawke> sublime, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrina-Leopard-Mod?content=68926
[17:33] <soundray> Please help me install the ati.com driver. On "bash ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy" I get "cp: cannot stat `./usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri': No such file or directory."
[17:33] <heguru> soundray: I have just rolled back to the 8.40 driver
[17:33] <bluefox83> uplinked, i'd say kill them both and restart compiz with "compiz --replace" and see if that helps...
[17:34] <Zzoli> any ideas why i get this error mesage when upgrading:"The system was unable to get the prerequisites for the upgrade. The upgrade will abort now and restore the original system state.
[17:34] <Zzoli> Please report this as a bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport."   ?
[17:34] <ctop> did you try updating first?
[17:34] <soundray> heguru: I'm on the gutsy-supplied 8.37 at the moment. Trying to enable suspend. -- Why did you roll back?
[17:34] <heguru> soundray: the 8.42.3 has AIGLX support but its very alpha at the moment, and it breaks other things (Firefox slow scrolling is a known bug)
[17:34] <ctop> i had to update before i could upgrade
[17:35] <Zzoli> i installed all the updates avalaible
[17:35] <sublime> lawke: try putting it in a tar.gz file and then installing it
[17:35] <Lawke> how do I do that?
[17:35] <uplinked> bluefox83, no change, still emerald and no effects/shortcuts
[17:35] <sublime> lawke: i'll bbl
[17:35] <soundray> heguru: thanks for letting me know. I'll revert to the radeon driver then...
[17:35] <heguru> soundray: suspend/hibernate doesn't yet work with fglrx on gutsy, thats due to the SLUB kernel in gutsy, it doesnt work even with 8.42.3 driver
[17:35] <thohov> Does anyone know how to share a directory to XBMC? I just get prompted for user/pass again and again when I share as normal with SMB :(
[17:35] <bluefox83> uplinked, and ccsm wont start?
[17:36] <uplinked> right, same error as pasted above
[17:36] <soundray> heguru: what's SLUB?
[17:36] <bluefox83> oye vey...sometimes i think it's just easier doing a fresh install >.>
[17:36] <heguru> soundray: its a new memory allocator used in 2.6.22 kernels, previously it SLAB was used, its kernel internals
[17:37] <hery> hmm
[17:37] <uplinked> bluefox83, i've already tried reinstalling compiz-config-settings-manager, as well as compiz and all related packages a few times
[17:37]  * N3bunel saluta
[17:37] <burg> N3bunel: can i pm you?
[17:37] <soundray> heguru: I see
[17:37] <Zzoli> anyway, where should I "report this as a bug against the 'update-manager' "  ??
[17:37] <Pici> uplinked: What kind of video card do you have?
[17:37] <heguru> Zzoli: bugs.ubuntu.com
[17:38] <Zzoli> can i attach files there?
[17:38] <uplinked> Pici, it's intel integrated, i think the 945 chipset
[17:38] <hery> Hard y Her on
[17:38] <heguru> Zzoli: yes you can
[17:38] <Zzoli> thanks:)
[17:38] <Pici> uplinked: hm.. I know the 965 chipset is blacklisted... have you tried asking in #compiz-fusion about it?
[17:39] <Caram_Home> Caram
[17:39] <mojo> bluefox83, i had upgraded since warty to feisty, but did a fresh install of gutsy (ubuntu studio flavor) and am very happy with it.  no more collected cruft, lean and clean.  of course my main reason was to go 64bit on my amd64 as i had been running 32bit 'till now.  but flash in firefox works great with nswrapper and i have no other issues (yet), so it is 64bit sweetness for me
[17:39] <uplinked> Pici, it worked perfectly until the update two days ago to Compiz and Emerald, but no, i haven't tried #compiz-fusion
[17:39] <hdevalence>  how do i set an ext3 partition in the fstab so it will be  writable by my normal user
[17:39] <Pici> uplinked: If it worked perfectly, then it might definitly be a whitelist/blacklist issue. I'd try in there.
[17:39] <soundray> heguru: thanks for your input. For now, it seems that radeon is the way to go for me.
[17:40] <uplinked> Pici, thanks
[17:40] <mojo> i have a (perhaps) silly compiz question...  where do i set the number of faces on the cube?  mine got set to 6 and i want to go back to 4 but can't find the flippin' setting
[17:40] <heguru> soundray: welcome :). I wish my card worked with radeon
[17:40] <Veovis> question
[17:41] <nocivo> hi
[17:41] <Pici> Veovis: where?
[17:41] <nocivo> i can used is comand? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:41] <heguru> mojo: System -> Preferences -> Advanced Desktop Settings, then General Options, then Desktop Size,
[17:41] <nocivo> for install kde in my ubuntu?
[17:41] <Pici> nocivo: yes, that will work.
[17:41] <Evanlec> mojo, good to hear, its time for ppl to realize that 64-bit is more than useable with gutsy
[17:41] <mindtzar> when i try to install ubuntu it starts to load into live mode, but artifacts appear on the screen and it goes black
[17:41] <craigc> Hi i was hoping someone might be able to guide / assist me in setting up GPROFTPD?
[17:41] <Pancakes> How would I go about increasing the partition size on my ubuntu?
[17:41] <N3bunel> burg: sure np
[17:41] <nocivo> ok ^^
[17:41] <Veovis> Gimp 2.4 was released, but thi gutsy package is still the release candidate.
[17:41] <JackDirty> I asked about how to play FullTilt Poker and got tips about Wine. Just want to say that it works perfect! Thanks!
[17:41] <mojo> Evanlec, so far i love it to death
[17:41] <Ashfaq> How do I increase the refresh rate for my screen resolution?
[17:41] <Pici> Pancakes: use gparted, but you'll need to do it from the liveCD or the gparted live CD.
[17:42] <grubhelp> Is there a way to reinstall grub without reinstlaling all of ubuntu?
[17:42] <grubhelp> (that is easy)
[17:42] <Evanlec> mojo, yea, how is the studio edition? ive looked at it but never tried
[17:42] <Ashfaq> The max available is 52 where as I require 70
[17:42] <Pici> !grub | grubhelp
[17:42] <ubotu> grubhelp: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:42] <mojo> heguru, thanks.. will try that... i had found the prefs>gldesktop workspaces tab and set it to 4 but it had NO effect...  (sigh)... will try your idea
[17:42] <mindtzar> when i try to install ubuntu (gusty amd64) it starts to load into live mode, but artifacts appear on the screen and it goes black
[17:42] <Pancakes> Pici, what would I need to do once in gparted?
[17:43] <Name141> Is it possible to try to get a better 'driver' for a Voodoo 3 3dfx 8 MB card?  I feel as if it is what is slowing me down when maxiumizing windows ?
[17:43] <Pici> Pancakes: gparted is the gnome partition editor, I'd say its quite intuitive to use.
[17:43] <Pancakes> alrighty
[17:43] <Ashfaq> Ineed the refresh rate for Gutsy, using restricted software
[17:43] <craigc> Hi i was hoping someone might be able to guide / assist me in setting up GPROFTPD on Ubuntu?
[17:43] <mindtzar> when i try to install ubuntu (gusty amd64) it starts to load into live mode, but artifacts appear on the screen and it goes black
[17:43] <Dr_willis> Name141,  reduceing your color depth may help a bit with that old a card.
[17:43] <Logixal> is there a firewall on be default with server 7.10? i cant get to ssh and iptables --list doesnt show much. i dont see iptables in init.d/ either
[17:44] <mindtzar> someone please help :(
[17:44] <Name141> Dr_willis, how is that done
[17:44] <mojo> heguru, um, it still has 6 even though i have now set it to 4 in both places.  do i have to restart to have it take effect?  (doh?)
[17:44] <mindtzar> is it a known bug or what
[17:44] <Dr_willis> Name141,  select the default depth in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[17:44] <Vlet> mindtzar: what type of video card do you have?
[17:44] <mindtzar> 6800GS
[17:45] <mindtzar> AGP
[17:45] <jdong> Logixal: there is no firewall on by default
[17:45] <Dr_willis> Logixal,  you did install the ssh server?
[17:45] <Logixal> yes
[17:45] <Ashfaq> Everyone seems busy someone for me, too!
[17:45] <Logixal> apt-get install openssh-server
[17:45] <Dr_willis> Logixal,  try a 'ssh localhost' see if it works.
[17:45] <Pici> jdong: I thought iptables was running by default..
[17:45] <jdong> Logixal: the services installed by default are designed to be accessible from the network (that's why you installed a server, right?) hence a firewall adds no additional security
[17:45] <craigc> Hi i was hoping someone might be able to guide / assist me in setting up GPROFTPD on Ubuntu?
[17:45] <jdong> Pici: iptables is always running on Ubuntu, but with an empty ruleset
[17:45] <jdong> Pici: which I argue is the same thing as off :)
[17:45] <Pici> jdong: not default deny?  (/me is not happy)
[17:46] <netlan> #Ubuntu-BR
[17:46] <jdong> Pici: why would you install a firewall will default deny?
[17:46] <mindtzar> so anyone got any idea why this is happening to me :'(
[17:46] <Logixal> jdong: right its behind routers and shit
[17:46] <Name141> Dr_willis, I see "DefaultDepth    16"
[17:46] <Vlet> mindtzar: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138421
[17:46] <Logixal> i dont want firewall that is why i asked if one is on be default
[17:46] <Pici> jdong: I do not know. I just thought thats the way it was.  I'm going to do some looking around.
[17:46] <jdong> Logixal: a firewall is used when you have services running on the server that not everyone should have access to
[17:46] <mindtzar> thanks vlet
[17:46] <jdong> Pici: a default deny firewall would be the same as unplugging the network cable
[17:46] <Dr_willis> Name141,  Hmm. looks like thats about as low as you will want. Could try 8 - but that may be ugly.
[17:46] <Pici> jdong: yeah, I know.
[17:47] <Ashfaq> Hello some one help me with the resolution please?
[17:47] <jdong> Pici: running a firewall on 95% of network setups is totally pointless
[17:47] <Vlet> !ask | Ashfaq
[17:47] <ubotu> Ashfaq: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:47] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[17:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:47] <movi> question - what does the Ubuntu DVD have that the Ubuntu CD doesnt ?
[17:47] <Name141> Dr_willis, once I try that, I need to ctrl + alt + backspace ?
[17:47] <jdong> a firewall should never be used to cover up services -- its more appropriate to configure your services to only allow those who need it
[17:47] <Dr_willis> Name141,  yep. THat will restart the X server
[17:47] <Vlet> movi: More!
[17:47] <shal3r> What to do if i need to install apps on ubuntu-x64 which doesn`t exist for 64-bit by default? Can i add 32-bit apps somehow?
[17:47] <Pici> jdong: I think I was just misinformed about the default ruleset.
[17:47] <grubhelp> Those links made me want to remove my own eyes.
[17:47] <Ashfaq> I need the refresh rate of 70 the default is 51 even after installing restricted softwares in Gutsy
[17:47] <movi> Vlet : more of what ?
[17:48] <Name141> Dr_willis, OK, BRb
[17:48] <bpat1434> When I open GParted, why would it take so long to scan the disks when 1 is 1/2 full, and the others are essentially empty?
[17:48] <grubhelp> I think I'm going to reinstall Ubuntu (AGAIN).
[17:48] <Evanlec> jdong, what? configure your services to only allow those who need it? and how do u block those that dont need it? a firewall perhaps?
[17:48] <grubhelp> :(
[17:48] <soyyo> hi
[17:48] <Veovis> grubhelp: what do you need help with?
[17:48] <Ashfaq> Vlet: you got what I wanted?
[17:48] <grubhelp> I just need to reinstall grub.
[17:49] <grubhelp> but those links looked like brain surgery mixed with self loathing.
[17:49] <craigc> Hi i was hoping someone might be able to guide / assist me in setting up GPROFTPD on Ubuntu?
[17:49] <Evanlec> lol
[17:49] <jdong> Evanlec: most services have configuration mechanisms for that. apache has ACL directives, almost all services support at least binding-adaptor directives
[17:49] <Vlet> movi: stuff! no, really... The DVD has everything in the main and restricted repositories--that means it includes Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu.
[17:49] <Veovis> grubhelp: what is wrong with your grub?
[17:49] <Dr_willis> grubhelp,  the one links i saw. gave like 5 different wayt do to it. :) some people get conrused and think they need to do them all.
[17:49] <Evanlec> jdong, oh, well i have no idea what ur talking about ;p
[17:50] <Zzoli> i can't send that bugreport X ( , and where in the world can files be attached on bugs.ubuntu.cim ?
[17:50] <jdong> Evanlec: Apache supports things like Allow 192.168.0.0/24
[17:50] <kbrooks> craigc, i dont recommend ftp for transferring files
[17:50] <Vlet> Ashfaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[17:50] <Pici> Zzoli: files can be attatched directly to bug reports.
[17:50] <jdong> Evanlec: or Listen 127.0.0.1 to only bind to localhost
[17:50] <grubhelp> It no longer exists.  It says "Failed to Load Operating System"
[17:50] <craigc> i cannot seem to configure my FTP server correctly, i was hoping someone might be able to help
[17:50] <Ashfaq> Vlet: yes I am waiting
[17:50] <Evanlec> jdong, okay, but what if u wanted internet traffic?
[17:50] <jdong> Evanlec: then why would you be firewalling the service to begin with?
[17:51] <craigc> kbrooks: i want to set up a ftp server for a short period of time
[17:51] <Vlet> Ashfaq: just because I suggested that you just ask, and not ask to ask, doesn't mean I'm the only one 'assigned' to answer for future refreence
[17:51] <Evanlec> jdong, well if ur running nat ... isnt a firewall kinda built into that?
[17:51] <jdong> Evanlec: for TCP services, yes for the most part
[17:51] <craigc> kbrooks: in order to share holiday photos with numerous people so they can upload to me too, any ideas other than ftp?
[17:51] <Logixal> Dr_willis: ok ssh localhost asked to accept cert and added localhost to list how do i add * to allowed
[17:51] <Zzoli> Pici: Where? I'm currently on the bug reporting site and there is no option for attaching any files
[17:51] <NET||abuse> Hi all,, just looking at using a todo list,, was trying to figure out which of the normally available ones in gutsy repositories was good, gtodo, qtodo or something else?
[17:51] <jdong> Evanlec: but again, what are you aiming to do with the firewall?
[17:51] <NET||abuse> what's everyone's favourite here?
[17:51] <Veovis> grubhelp: is it grub that says that or your bios?
[17:51] <Pici> Zzoli: You need to file a bug first. Then you can attatch a file to the bug.
[17:52] <Shapeshifter> Is there some software that can capture screen activity? Like Fraps for windows games, just for the normal X environment?
[17:52] <jdong> Evanlec: I find that usually by the time someone defines what they want their firewall to do, they realize it's not needed :)
[17:52] <grubhelp> dunno.
[17:52] <Evanlec> jdong, i donno that much about it...but i was under the impression that a firewall helped with general security
[17:52] <Pici> !screencast | Shapeshifter
[17:52] <ubotu> Shapeshifter: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[17:52] <NET||abuse> !todo
[17:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about todo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:52] <Evanlec> jdong, to block ports that might be opened by less than friendly services i spose?
[17:52] <Veovis> grubhelp: do you know what you did that broke it?
[17:52] <Shapeshifter> Pici: Thx!
[17:53] <grubhelp> i was trying to fix my non working x64 XP partition.
[17:53] <grubhelp> It was giving NTLDR missing.
[17:53] <jdong> Evanlec: why are those services running to begin with? That's an issue to solve with the services, not by slappign a firewall on :)
[17:53] <jdong> Evanlec: and firewalls in general don't add any security beyond a standard configuration
[17:53] <Ubuntu_Expert> What software do I need to Synch my Nokia 6681? (Best choices with ease of use)
[17:53] <Evanlec> jdong, well thats more of an issue with windows users i guess
[17:53] <Veovis> grubhelp: so when you turn on your computer it just says "filesystem not found" an stops? or does it boot windows?
[17:53] <jdong> Evanlec: it's also not unheard of for a firewall to cause denial-of-service or packet-processing vulnerabilities
[17:54] <grubhelp> no it says "Failed to Load Operating System"
[17:54] <jdong> Evanlec: so you might actually be huring yourself with a poorly configured firewall :)
[17:54] <NET||abuse> Ubuntu_Expert, opensync is the only app i've seen that can approach nokia phones, rather an iritating problem the whole evolution/calendar to smart phone sync issue
[17:54] <Shapeshifter> Pici: Before I start installing and trying out stuff, are those apps able to record compiz-fusion?
[17:54] <jdong> Evanlec: even in Windows, a firewall by default is not necessary
[17:54] <Evanlec> jdong, interesting...
[17:54] <Pici> Shapeshifter: I believe yes.
[17:54] <Evanlec> jdong, then why does microsoft push it so much?
[17:54] <Pancakes> What's a good text editor that I could use with Ubuntu? (with syntax highlighting and ectetera)
[17:54] <grubhelp> I have an empty partition I could use to reinstall ubuntu, but the partitioner is REALLY confusing.
[17:54] <Shapeshifter> Pici: k, nice ^^
[17:54] <Veovis> grubhelp: my best guess is that your /boot/grub/menu.lst might be messed up
[17:54] <jdong> Evanlec: it's a buzzword
[17:55] <Evanlec> jdong, vista sounds like you're about to commit capital murder if u dont turn your firewall back on
[17:55]  * neverblue can never offer explainations about why Microsoft does something
[17:55] <kbrooks> >>> craigc, like this <<<
[17:55] <smoenux> I cannot see other computers on the network (Windows or Mac). can someone assist?
[17:55] <grubhelp> I want "Guided - use entire partition" but that doesn't exist.
[17:55] <anabelle> does kubuntu 7.10 install compiz by default?
[17:55] <Name141> Dr_willis, all that did was make it crash
[17:55] <Ubuntu_Expert> Gah Im sorry about my NIc Ubuntu_Expert im a newbie I just used it to make my friends kind of angry . Thanks for the suggestion NET||abuse
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Pancakes,  its always worth while to learn vi. :) install the 'full' vi package - it has those features.
[17:55] <jdong> Evanlec: people tend to think firewalls are some sort of magical security-enhancing thing.... like an AI that's always watching your traffic looking for hackers
[17:55] <LjL> Ubuntu_Expert, NET||abuse: i suppose the "gammu", "gnokii" and "wammu" packages might also be worth a look at
[17:55] <craigc> can someone test my ftp / help me set it up.  I have done it before on windows but getting a bit flumoxed with GPROFTP
[17:55] <jdong> Evanlec: hence it sounds *really good* to turn one on ;-)
[17:55] <Logixal> Dr_willis: ok ssh localhost asked to accept cert and added localhost to list how do i add * to allowed
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Name141,  looke like the card can only handle 16 depth then.
[17:55] <Veovis> grubhelp: so are you reinstalling right now?
[17:55] <anabelle> does kubuntu 7.10 install compiz by default?
[17:55] <Veovis> anbelle: yes
[17:55] <Pici> anabelle: no.
[17:56] <Niklas_E> is there any way to do so the tvtime or mythtv uses the pal and not the dvb driver for the tv card?
[17:56] <kbrooks> anabelle, refocus your thoughts. the answer is yes but it switches down to 2d when the card doesnt support 3d
[17:56] <Name141> Dr_willis, OK.
[17:56] <Vlet> Logixal: check the ssh manpage
[17:56] <Ubuntu_Expert> Which would be the least hard to get installed. Im on a dialup.
[17:56] <Evanlec> jdong, understandable, but why would microsoft developers think it was so important to have one? or is it more just to make people feel safer?
[17:56] <Name141> Dr_willis, any other way to speed it up inside of linux?
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Logixal,  well that shows the server is working at least. On my local lan ive just isntalled the ssh server on each box and its worked for me.   Not sure what part to troubleshoot next.
[17:56] <grubhelp> i'm going through the menu.  I want to see if i can get it to work.  I hope I don't lose data.
[17:56] <kbrooks> Evanlec, latter. also as a way to fix their own errors.
[17:56] <smoenux> I cannot see other computers on the network (Windows or Mac). can someone assist?
[17:56] <jdong> Evanlec: the only other advantage to a firewall is for users who run software that happens to open up ports, or do other mean things
[17:56] <Logixal> Dr_willis strange thing is www is public on network just fine
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Name141,  its a low end card :)  reduce your seceen size, use a lightter window manager. abouit all ya can do.
[17:56] <hipodilski> whawhat gui software to use to use a wireless card?
[17:56] <Pici> kbrooks: Veovis: anabelle: No, Kubuntu does not ship with Compiz, Ubuntu does.
[17:56] <Logixal> i will man and see if its a tweak
[17:57] <Pici> !compiz-#kubuntu | anabelle
[17:57] <ubotu> anabelle: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:57] <trekkme> which command do i put into a desktopstarter if i want it at doublick open a terminal und execute one command in that terminal?
[17:57] <hipodilski> I'm running ubuntu with gnome
[17:57] <jdong> Evanlec: the argument is that a firewall makes it so that only root (admin) can specify what ports can listen, rather than empowering the user with that
[17:57] <resakse> anyone know how to display 3gp files as a thumbnail?
[17:57] <Name141> Dr_willis, I am on XFCE, and 800x600
[17:57] <Vlet> hipodilski: the network manager should allow you to set it up fine
[17:57] <kbrooks> Pici, why doesn't it?
[17:57] <jdong> Evanlec: IMO that's a flawed argument. If you cannot trust your programs not to open random ports, you've got a lot of other problems at your hands.
[17:57] <Name141> Dr_willis, Would fluxbox be worth trying?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> Name141,  shall i point out that WalMart is going to be selling $200 Linux PC's soon. :)
[17:57] <hipodilski> Vlet: the gnome network manager?
[17:57] <Vlet> hipodilski: yes
[17:57]  * grubhelp crosses fingers.
[17:57] <Pici> kbrooks: because kde4 will be using its own composting thingy, not compiz.  I believe it was done in preparation for that.
[17:57] <hipodilski> Vlet: does it support scanning of networks and listing the available networks
[17:57] <Name141> Dr_willis, LOL.  No, I have no money.
[17:57] <hipodilski> ?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> Name141,  why not. :) it cant hurt. Its easy to get fluxbox  going
[17:57] <craigc> no ftp guru's ?
[17:57] <bpat1434> Dr_willis: where'd you hear that?
[17:58] <smoenux> I cannot see other computers on the network (Windows or Mac). can someone assist?
[17:58] <Dr_willis> bpat1434,  it was on the web sites last nioght. let me find the url
[17:58] <jdong> Evanlec: and MS hasn't worked all that hard on a firewall... the Windows firewall is a trivial inbound firewall that probably took one guy an afternoon to write.
[17:58] <grubhelp> There should really be a "Guided: Use entire Partition"
[17:58] <bosworth> Hi. I'm on linux Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. I've added the winehq repos to APT, but the new version 0.9.48 isn't in the repo yet. Will it arrive soon or should I look for another way of getting the new version?
[17:58] <Vlet> hipodilski: if you slick on the toolbar icon, it should... otherwise you can try 'wifi radar'
[17:58] <grubhelp> That would cause a lot less confusion.
[17:58] <Name141> Dr_willis, I suppose there is some fancy apt-get command ?
[17:58] <rredd4> how do I have different desktop pictures in each workspace?
[17:59] <dn4> how do I see a list of applications open
[17:59] <dn4> psaux or something
[17:59] <dn4> pcilist?
[17:59] <Dr_willis> Name141,  fancy? apt-get install   is fancy? :) or use the package manager.
[17:59] <kl4m> dn4: console: ps -aux
[17:59] <Pici> dn4: ps aux
[17:59] <dn4> damn I did not put a space
[17:59] <dn4> thanks
[17:59] <Dr_willis> $200 Linux Pc at walmart - rnning a Ubuntu 'variant' --> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7114714037.html
[17:59] <bpat1434> Dr_willis: thanks....
[17:59] <hipodilski> Vlet: wifi-radar doesn't have a "network refresh button"
[17:59] <craigc> can someone test my ftp / help me set it up.  I have done it before on windows but getting a bit flumoxed with GPROFTP
[18:00] <Name141> Dr_willis, LOL.  If I had money I'd see a dentist
[18:00] <Humanzy> Hey, azureus doesn't work with gutsy?
[18:00] <kl4m> dn4: graphic: system -> admin -> system monitor
[18:00] <jdong> Humanzy: right, bug 57875, I'm working on it
[18:00] <Dr_willis> Name141,  Its fall here.. get to raking leaves! :)
[18:00] <jdong> Humanzy: testing debs for gutsy can be found on the bug report, and they work under Gutsy
[18:00] <neverblue> Humanzy, use ktorrent instead, you will never go back :)
[18:00] <Vlet> hipodilski: as far as I recall, it autorefreshes
[18:01] <Humanzy> having linux is quickly becoming a huge pain in the ass
[18:01] <neverblue> !language
[18:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[18:01] <bert_>  Is it possible to run compiz fusion on a Nvidia Go 5200 card with only 32 MB ram?
[18:01] <Name141> What is a good DL manager that stacks up to say.. GetRight ?  Or freedownloadmanager
[18:01] <Dr_willis> Humanzy,  i think the same thing about windows when i have to use Windows.
[18:01] <Lawke> what is the extension of a theme pack, i'm trying to install a theme but it is saying that is has a invalid package....
[18:01] <FluxD> Name141: wget :)
[18:01] <Dr_willis> !find proz
[18:01] <Vlet> bert_: it may, but you'd likely be happer not
[18:01] <Name141> FluxD, I need something to start/stop many files and keep passwords.
[18:02] <rredd4> using gutsy, can i downgrade openoffice?  version 2.3 does not work correctly.  how please
[18:02] <qaldune> lawke it's usually a tar.gz file
[18:02] <ubotu> Package/file proz does not exist in gutsy
[18:02] <craigc> can someone test my ftp / help me set it up.  I have done it before on windows but getting a bit flumoxed with GPROFTP
[18:02] <Lawke> qaldune, I have that but it is saying that it isn't the right one...
[18:02] <qaldune> then it just isn't
[18:02] <Nyle> has anyone used google desktop for linux?
[18:02] <qaldune> what theme are you trying to install?
[18:02] <Lawke> qaldune, that sucks :(
[18:02] <Vlet> !anyone | Nyle
[18:02] <ubotu> Nyle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:03] <hipodilski> Vlet: ok thanks
[18:03] <Lawke> qaldune, this one: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/720
[18:03] <bosworth> in Wine version 0.9.47 has bugs for me, so I am trying to upgrade to 0.9.48. 48 isn't in the winhq .deb repo. is there a schedule for Debian releases of wine?
[18:03] <Nyle> that _is_ my question
[18:03] <qaldune> lawke give a minute
[18:03] <bert_> Vlet: well beryl worked quite nice.. when I used my system ram as well
[18:04] <pike_> bosworth: might try getdeb.net
[18:04] <Vlet> bert_: oh, well, never tried it with a 32 meg card.. why not try it and find out :)
[18:04] <craigc> ftp = 87.194.161.28:21 username = craigcftp pass = pass121 any feedback as to if it works / why it is not working would be appreciated
[18:04] <Nyle> or I guess I could say, the people who use google desktop for linux, what they think of it?
[18:04] <bpat1434> Why does gparted take so long to scan devices when there's less than 100 gigs of actual data?
[18:04] <Pici> craigc: Dont do that.
[18:04] <bosworth> pike_: tnx. I'll check it out now
[18:04] <pike_> craigc: what are you trying to do?
[18:04] <qaldune> lawke i had no problem installing it
[18:05] <SeanTater> rredd4: I might be able to acertain why it is not working, but read that ubotu says if you want to know how to downgrade
[18:05] <Lawke> qaldune, how do you do it then?
[18:05] <SeanTater> !pin | rredd4
[18:05] <ubotu> rredd4: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[18:05] <craigc> pici, trying to get a ftp server running
[18:05] <qaldune> lawke are you using gdmsetup to get it working?
[18:05] <pcglue> in aptitude, what does it mean when packages are "kept back" or "automatically kept back"?  why would it do that?
[18:05] <Lawke> whats gdmsetup?
[18:05] <Lawke> :D
[18:05] <Tweek2k> Hello, is it possible to install ubuntu server 7.10 with PXE? i only can find descriptions for the desktop version.
[18:05] <qaldune> lawke: sudo gdmsetup
[18:05] <craigc> so i can share all holiday pics with a bunch of trekkers that went up the himalaya
[18:05] <Lawke> ok
[18:05] <qaldune> you'll see by yourself
[18:05] <Lawke> but i'm goining to reboot frst
[18:05] <Lawke> thanks in advance
[18:05] <qaldune> gdm themes cannot be installed using normal theme manager
[18:05] <Pici> craigc: Posting your ip address and a username and password in a channel with over a thousand people, is just silly.
[18:05] <craigc> pici, who are all over the country, they need to upload too
[18:06] <baastrup> how do i get ffmpeg with aac support?
[18:06] <craigc> pici, yeah i suppose so, pretty silly
[18:06] <SeanTater> Tweek2k: Ubuntu server and desktop are not giganticly different I'm 99.8% sure that if you can do it with one you can do it will all the flavors of ubuntu
[18:06] <bosworth> pike_: the getdeb site has an even older version, 0.9.45. should I try to downgrade, and if so could  that give further complications?
[18:06] <Pici> craigc: Please try asking in #proftpd for help.
[18:06] <rredd4> SeanTater  when i click on a cell, the select format cells, openoffice crashes
[18:07] <Pici> craigc: and don't advertise your server in here again.
[18:07] <craigc> pici, thanks
[18:07] <Tweek2k> there is a article but i can't find the right bootfile
[18:07] <SeanTater> baastrup: you probably need to compile it, which is suprisingly easy if you have the time
[18:07] <craigc> pici, i dont think its working anyway :(
[18:07] <baastrup> SeanTater, will it use dpkg so I easyly can uninstall it?
[18:08] <scirer> hello
[18:08] <SeanTater> rredd4: I'm afraid I cannot help with that, you'll probably need to use pinning, or a method akin to doenloading the older version from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <scirer> which is the password of root?
[18:08] <LjL> !root > scirer    (scirer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:08] <scirer> in live
[18:08] <SeanTater> baastrup: yes, you can do that quite easily, but you'll need to install checkinstall
[18:08] <rredd4> SeanTater  ty
[18:08] <bpat1434> scirer: there isn't one that I know of.
[18:08] <baastrup> SeanTater, oki I will try that
[18:08] <bpat1434> scirer: what are you trying to do?
[18:08] <baastrup> SeanTater, thx :_)
[18:09] <SeanTater> baastrup: Have you compiled a program before?
[18:09] <scirer> bpat1434: i want to installa lIlo
[18:09] <SeanTater> baastrup: and remember, you will need both faac and faad.
[18:09] <scirer> lilo
[18:09] <baastrup> SeanTater, thx
[18:09] <SeanTater> scirer: Why? Grub is usually quite capable, do you understand what LILO does?
[18:10] <SeanTater> baastrup: yw
[18:10] <weggpod> hy
[18:10] <pike_> bosworth: youd really need to check the wine website for the application youre running. might also /join #winehq  they are alot more knowledgable with wine stuff.  the wine site though should tell  you the version other are working in
[18:10] <sainzeo_> does anyone know if libncp has been updated in gutsy to a different version that actually works again? before, the version installed with gutsy didn't work, but the version that came with feisty did - any suggestions?
[18:10] <scirer> SeanTater: i have had a damage on my disk to install pcbsd and i have fear of what is not lilo :P
[18:10] <weggpod> someone know how to configure firefox to use the global proxies parameters of gnome ?
[18:10] <Lawke> qaldune, gdmsetup isn't found in the repos
[18:11] <spideyman> help Im trying to install tovid but the python-dev dependancy causes a break
[18:11] <qaldune> lawke just try sudo gdmsetup
[18:11] <Lawke> hm
[18:11] <Lawke> someting is opening
[18:11] <bosworth> pike_: i've been there for the last three days :-D I think I'll have to downgrade to the .45 version. I'll check that out and then return to here if i end up nok being able to downgrade.
[18:11] <SeanTater> scirer: sticking to grub will probably be easier, cnsidering that is what most Ubuntu users are accustomed to. I;m afraid I cannot help in LILO's installation
[18:11] <Ljorring> since I plugged in my wireless NIC into my PCI port, I cannot boot up Ubuntu. My HAL drivers fail to initialize. Is tehre a way to bypass them?
[18:11] <rredd4> is it possible to have different desktop pictures in each workspace in gnome via gutsy?
[18:11] <bosworth> pike_: but thanks anyway ;-)
[18:11] <qaldune> lawke: "Drag and drop this theme into the gdmsetup tool to install" -> from the theme download page
[18:11] <dn4> how do I few only directories
[18:11] <dn4> and not files?
[18:12] <Pici> dn4: few?
[18:12] <dn4> few = view
[18:12] <Pici> dn4: on the terminal?
[18:12] <dn4> commandline only please
[18:12] <jburris> weggpod: tools->options -> advanced -> connection settings
[18:12] <Vlet> dn4: see man ls
[18:12] <weggpod> and then jburris?
[18:12] <Logixal> Is Ubuntu going to make a gaming version full ready to play games like CS and WOW?
[18:13] <Lawke> qaldune, that is not working for me tho
[18:13] <SeanTater> Logixal: do they run natively on Linux?
[18:13] <qaldune> lawke just run gdmsetup and install it
[18:13] <LjL> Vlet: is that useful? i cannot see the option he seems to be looking for in there...
[18:13] <Vlet> Logixal: on a related topic, look into Cedega
[18:13] <qaldune> it's not so hard omg
[18:13] <Logixal> ok thanks
[18:13] <bert_> When I don't have any window border with compiz what sould I do?
[18:13] <jburris> weggpod: select manual proxy configuration, enter the IP/hostname of your proxy server
[18:13] <Lawke> lol, I can't drag it anywher..
[18:13] <scirer> SeanTater: i try.. which tool to install grub without command line?
[18:14] <jburris> change the port if needed
[18:14] <LjL> bert_: try asking in #compiz-fusion
[18:14] <weggpod> jburris, is not my question, i want that firefox uses the global gnome proxies parameters
[18:14] <SeanTater> bert_: Just a hint, but kwin has the keycode ALT-F3 to bring up a menu for the window border. compiz might have a similar keycode
[18:15] <Logixal> is Cedega free?
[18:15] <Pici> Logixal: no, its commercial.
[18:15] <Logixal> got it thanks
[18:15] <Vlet> LjL: it's ls -d */
[18:15] <AngryElf> I'm trying to use wget on a php file that returns a differnet file -- but wget insists on downloading the actual php file -- how do I make it get the resulting file as if I clicked the link in a browser
[18:16] <magnus_> hi, is there anyone, who knows which keyboad-layout i should choose for my ibook ??? i found several setting in the internet, but none of them seems to work :-(
[18:16] <qaldune> angryelf that's about the server, not about wget
[18:16] <LjL> dn4: see vlet above
[18:16] <pike_> Logixal: no.  wine itself is advancing to the point that it is a better alternative than cedega these days though
[18:16] <vectalix> hey guys
[18:16] <AngryElf> qaldune: if i click the link it works, if i wget it, it doesn't, seems like a wget problem to me
[18:16] <vectalix> have I a problem with my gusty and Compiz
[18:16] <whatspy> I need help for a shell command... "kill every process named 'foo', except the one with the highest PID"
[18:16] <vectalix> I have *
[18:16] <Logixal> Redwine?
[18:16] <SeanTater> AngryElf: it's downloading the data of the file it's directed to under the php's name, change the .php's name to the name of the one you are being redirected to, and you'll find that's actually the file it downloaded
[18:17] <Pici> whatspy: have you asked in #bash?
[18:17] <vectalix> I run a X300 PRO and it result an error
[18:17] <whatspy> Pici: ah, didn't know about #bash, thx
[18:17] <SeanTater> AngryElf: at least that's usually the case
[18:17] <vectalix> I follow the wiki about the question
[18:17] <vectalix> but it isn't working
[18:17] <Pici> !cfbl | vectalix
[18:17] <ubotu> vectalix: Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[18:17] <AngryElf> SeanTater: there's no good way of determining where the php file is redirecting to that i know of
[18:18] <vectalix> compiz isn't supported by Ubuntu officialy ?
[18:18] <Pici> vectalix: It is, please re-read that.
[18:18] <LjL> whatspy: kill $(pidof $name | tr " " "\n" | sort -n | head -n -1 | tr "\n" " ")
[18:18] <jason_> hi all how it going
[18:18] <SeanTater> AngryElf: That was an example, just end it with the same file extention. for example: you could name it foo.tar.gz if you knew that it was an archive of that format
[18:18] <jego> hey guys does anyone has had trouble with compiz after resizing a window?
[18:18] <vectalix> ah ok sorry
[18:19] <chazco> Anyone here know how to install Realplayer 9 with browser plugin support on 7.10? I had it working on 7.04 but cant get it now
[18:19] <weggpod> jburris, ani ideas?
[18:19] <SeanTater> AngryElf: Am I getting it across?
[18:20] <Logixal> Not Work Safe but Funny http://quarkblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/ubuntu.jpg
[18:20] <rico> anyone know how I can upgrade my Alsa to 1.0.15?
[18:20] <AngryElf> SeanTater: yes, sorry missed it the first time, thanx
[18:20] <SeanTater> AngryElf: No problem..
[18:20] <Varka> rico: download sources and compile it yourself :P
[18:20] <Pici> !ohmy | Logixal
[18:20] <ubotu> Logixal: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[18:20] <LjL> whatspy: caveat: when your system has used every process number up to 65535, it starts re-using them from 1. so, the "highest PID" might not be the last-started process, if that's what you're looking for
[18:20] <Pici> !offtopic | Logixal
[18:20] <ubotu> Logixal: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:21] <rico> Varka, I tried and it seemed to not work. maybe another way? :)
[18:21] <hipodilski> I'm running ubuntu 7.10  grphic env special effects doesn't work my video is "intel" is it possible to enable the visual effects
[18:21] <hipodilski> somehow?
[18:21] <Logixal> My bad I thought it was something supported or sent out by Ubuntu officially
[18:21] <rico> hipodilski, by any chance are you using Intel GMA965?
[18:21] <rico> a.k.a., X3100 (i think)
[18:21] <pike_> Logixal: /join #ubuntu-offtopic there are quite a few of us in there :)
[18:22] <Pici> Logixal: I dont know how you thought that.
[18:22] <Pici> rico: x#### cards are ATI, not intel.
[18:22] <SeanTater> hipodilski: You seem to have built in graphics. It probably does not have the necessary acceleration for special effects (whough I am no experct on the subject)
[18:22] <orionr> Hey is anyone here running duel monitors?
[18:22] <SeanTater>  whough=though
[18:22] <hipodilski> rico: yes gm965/gl960
[18:22] <Pici> !cfbl | hipodilski please read
[18:22] <ubotu> hipodilski please read: Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[18:22] <rico> Pici, I have the same card and it's apparently marketed as X3100
[18:22] <hipodilski> rico: ?
[18:23] <rico> hipodilski, yes there's a way. mkdir ~/.config/compiz
[18:23] <Pici> rico: Really? thats odd.
[18:23] <Pici> hipodilski: read what ubotu said.
[18:23] <whatspy> LjL: what you said a bit earlier actually explains a lot of things I didn't understand
[18:23]  * SeanTater stands corrected
[18:23] <rico> echo "SKIP_CHECKS=yes" > ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager
[18:23] <rico> then try enabling it again
[18:23] <tonynlisa> Anyone aware of KDE4 packages for Gusty?
[18:23] <jego> quit
[18:24] <Pici> sigh
[18:24] <weggpod> someone have an idea for my problem
[18:24] <rico> hipodilski, did it work?
[18:25] <rico> hipodilski, info on why/how that works: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist
[18:25] <hipodilski> rico: I don't know but there may be problems right?
[18:25] <LjL> whatspy: « ps kstart_time -ef  » should give you a list of processes sorted by the time they were started. you should be able to use that
[18:25] <boris> how can i convert .ogg files into .mp3 files *
[18:25] <boris> ?
[18:25] <freak124> I think my partition table is broken or something like that, is there anyone who can help me out?
[18:25] <vivekraj> is picasa available for ubuntu??
[18:25] <Vlet> weggpod: in firefox config, set config.use_system_prefs to true
[18:25] <Pici> !picasa | vivekraj
[18:25] <ubotu> vivekraj: Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[18:26] <rico> hipodilski, the only problem is that XV video doesn't work. you can easily fix this by going to gstreamer-properties, and setting your video output to something not XV
[18:26] <weggpod> Vlet i make this but it doesn(t work
[18:26] <tonynlisa> freak : use gparted live CD?
[18:26] <dn4> could 32GB be compressed under 30GB?
[18:26] <Vlet> weggpod: tried restarting firefox maybe?
[18:26] <bee1> any wine experts here?
[18:26] <tonynlisa> I'm a wanabe wine expert :-p
[18:26] <boris> bee1 : join #winehq
[18:26] <vivekraj> what's the best alternative of picasa for ubuntu??
[18:26] <weggpod> Vlet i have make it
[18:26] <Pici> vivekraj: f-spot
[18:26] <burwaco> dn4, depends of what it is...
[18:26] <hipodilski> rico: actually I've followed your recommendations but when I try to enable them nothing happens
[18:27] <freak124> tonynlisa, I tried, but the live cd says it can't run the graphic environement and I can't work with just the bash
[18:27] <Vlet> weggpod: details: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Config.use_system_prefs
[18:27] <hipodilski> rico: "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[18:27] <boris> how can i convert .ogg files into .mp3 files ?
[18:27] <hipodilski> rico: ?
[18:27] <Pici> hipodilski: Try asking in #compiz-fusion
[18:27] <outerlimit> I just upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04, and I no longer have dual monitor support.  The "Screens and Graphics" applet is terrible at trying to set this up... I'm using a laptop with a GeForce 7900, 17" widescreen monitor, 22" widescreen external monitor.  I tried just manually editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it seems to just ignore that file.... Any suggestions?
[18:27] <tonynlisa> Freak : I've had that. You can actually use the ubuntu installer CD. It has gparted and has better video detection
[18:28] <LjL> whatspy: like in « kill $(ps kstart_time -C apache2 -o pid= | head -n -1) » (apache2 being just an example)
[18:28] <Vlet> boris: that's a terrible idea :)
[18:28] <rico> hipodilski, try doing compiz --replace on a terminal and watch it's output
[18:28] <dr2> how do I see if my Linux is 32 or 64-bit?
[18:28] <freak124> tonynlisa, yeah, the video detection was the problem. So how do I run gparted from the live cd?
[18:29] <LjL> dr2: uname -m
[18:29] <dxdt> dr2: uname -a
[18:29] <dxdt> -m is better
[18:29] <dxdt> go with LjL
[18:29] <predaeus> dr2, or check what e.g. "file /bin/ls" says
[18:30] <tonynlisa> its in the menu. System > Admin > Partition Editor
[18:30] <hipodilski>  /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on dis
[18:30] <dr2> i686
[18:30] <rico> dr2, looks like a 32-bit.
[18:30] <outerlimit> dr2: You have 32bit then.
[18:30] <hipodilski> player
[18:30] <hipodilski> play*
[18:30] <dr2> thank u!
[18:30] <freak124> ok ty, I'll try
[18:30] <mistone> outerlimit: try nvidia-settings
[18:30] <tonynlisa> Oh
[18:30] <hipodilski> usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
[18:30] <weggpod> Vlet your link don't help me
[18:30] <rico> hipodilski, what driver are you using?
[18:30] <rico> for your display?
[18:31] <tonynlisa> one more thing.... You should also go into prefs > removable media
[18:31] <rico> you should be using intel
[18:31] <tonynlisa> and turn off automounting
[18:31] <outerlimit> mistone: And do what with them?  I've never had any luck with it... at most it exports an xorg.conf file which Ubuntu appears to be ignoring/skipping...
[18:31] <tonynlisa> cuz gparted acts funny when things automount
[18:31] <Lawke> how can I completely remove emerald from my computer?
[18:31] <mistone> outerlimit: even if you don't export it,  it will change the settings, plus it should work...
[18:31] <outerlimit> mistone: Alright, I'll give it a try :)
[18:32] <dn4> dn4@dn4:/mnt/dn4/Sortme/F00$ ls -d
[18:32] <outerlimit> Do I restart X after making changes or what?
[18:32] <dn4> I only get .
[18:32] <dn4> ".:
[18:32] <dn4> "."
[18:32] <neverblue> !enter
[18:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:32] <Pici> dn4: someone suggest ls -d /*
[18:32] <bulmer> Lawke-> can you try apt-get remove packagename
[18:32] <Pici> dn4: rather *suggested
[18:32] <fiendfyre> Is there anybody here who's using Kiba Dock? I want to continue the development of Gnome Dock, but I need to know if it's even required
[18:32] <dn4> hmm that is weird
[18:33] <Lawke> bulmer, I did, but I wanna remove it completely, I installed it back and the settings were still the same..
[18:33] <hipodilski> rico: "intel"
[18:33] <fiendfyre> I mean, does Kiba Dock has serious disadvantages?
[18:33] <hipodilski> rico: the driver is intel
[18:33] <dn4>  ls -d */
[18:33] <dn4> that is what is required :(
[18:33] <rico> hipodilski, shrug, not sure what's wrong then. It worked for me.
[18:33] <dn4> i'd like ls -d  to =  ls -d */
[18:33] <hipodilski> rico: I'll try to restart gnome?
[18:33] <hipodilski> maybe that would fix it
[18:33] <Pici> dn4: hm., Try ls -d /full/path/to/directory
[18:33] <rico> hipodilski, and X too
[18:33] <orionr> Is anyone here running duel displays?
[18:33] <dxdt> fiendfyre: I use that Avant thing and that is pretty good
[18:33] <hipodilski> rico: sure
[18:33] <SteveG> hey everyone
[18:33] <dxdt> orionr: yes, dual 17inches with compiz
[18:34] <mistone> fiendfyre:  its not very smooth, I like avant-window-navagator
[18:34] <bulmer> Lawke-> i believe there is an option for apt-get to remove including config files, i just dont know off hand, man apt-get
[18:34] <rico> how do you set up dual monitors? :x
[18:34] <orionr> dxdt: do you have any problems play movies?
[18:34] <Pici> Lawke: apt-get remove --purge packagename
[18:34] <dxdt> orionr: no.  not that I"ve noticed at all.
[18:34] <SteveG> can someone help me with some ubuntu stuff, drop me a pm cheers
[18:34] <tonynlisa> is avant on the standard repositories yet?
[18:34] <Pici> SteveG: Why not just ask in the channel?
[18:34] <bulmer> there you go --purge option
[18:34] <mistone> tonynlisa: it has been for a wihle, but its pretty old
[18:34] <rico> tonynlisa, unfortunately no, since avant hasn't had a good stable version
[18:34] <orionr> dxdt: when i go to play a movie it gitches my hole screen out and both screens go black
[18:34] <SteveG> didn't want to clutter the channel
[18:34] <mistone> what
[18:34] <tonynlisa> :-\
[18:34] <SteveG> ok here goes
[18:34] <Pici> SteveG: This channel is for support :)
[18:35] <mistone> I swear it was
[18:35] <fiendfyre> mistone, Have you used Gnome Dock in the past?
[18:35] <Pici> SteveG: Just don't paste something huge.
[18:35] <dxdt> orionr: that is odd.  I don't think I would be able to help with a project
[18:35] <SteveG> i need to run a command on startup to poll acerhk for my wifi button but i dont know where to put it
[18:35] <dxdt> I mean problem
[18:35] <SteveG> i know the command i need
[18:35] <outerlimit> misnix: At most I can only get TwinView to work... Will nvidia-settings help me get seperate screens working?
[18:35] <mistone> fiendfyre: I used it recently (like the new version ) , its really bloated and pretty unusable
[18:36] <outerlimit> misnix: I tried using it to do so, mdae te change and it told me I had to restart X, I did and I still only had one screen.
[18:36] <mistone> fiendfyre: the effects are really cool but I could't use the dock there were all these small glitchs and inconviences
[18:36] <fiendfyre> mistone, bloated? I though it was minimalistic :P
[18:36] <orionr> When ever i try to play a movie when im running dual display both of my monitors glitch out and go black any idea how to fix that?
[18:36] <Pici> SteveG: you could stick your script in /etc/rc.local
[18:36] <mistone> the new version is really bloated
[18:36] <fiendfyre> mistone, yeah, I know what you're saying
[18:36] <fiendfyre> mistone, It crashes a lot
[18:36] <napsy_> Hello. I have two computers on the net and each installed with Thunderbird for mail. Can I somehow sync mails between those thunderbirds?
[18:36] <mistone> that to
[18:37] <SteveG> Pici: could i put this in their
[18:37] <SteveG> modprobe acerhk
[18:37] <SteveG> echo 1 > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirelessled
[18:37] <mistone> I got AWN with the curves patch and I am liking it so far
[18:37]  * SteveG is new to linux 
[18:37] <Odd-rationale> napsy_: I don't think so.
[18:37] <Pici> SteveG: Sure.
[18:37] <weggpod> Vlet other idea
[18:38] <tonynlisa> So noone here using KDE4 i guess?
[18:38] <SteveG> Pici:  just edit rc.local and paste it in?
[18:38] <Pici> tonynlisa: Try in #kubuntu
[18:38] <Pici> SteveG: Yep.
[18:38] <predaeus> napsy_, easiest would be to just use IMAP if your email provider supports that. This would keep email on the mail server.
[18:38] <outerlimit> Okay, new question.  Where is the X11 configuration file for 7.10? I have modified /etc/X11/xorg.conf and it appears to ignore it.
[18:38] <fiendfyre> Did you restart X?
[18:38] <napsy_> predaeus: hm i'll try that. tnx
[18:38] <outerlimit> fiendfyre: Yes.
[18:39] <fiendfyre> weird
[18:39] <Carnage\> outerlimit: Xorg searches several places for its config files
[18:39] <Carnage\> It checks for example ~/xorg.conf...
[18:39] <Le_Fou`Absent> i have rm -rf my apache folders ( was pissin me off) n now i cant apt-get install apache2 :x
[18:40] <fiendfyre> Wow, it's really hard to decide between Google Code/SourceForge/Launchpad/My own trac
[18:40] <Carnage\> Le_Fou`Absent: rm -rf != apt-get remove...
[18:40] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: you messed with stuff in /usr manually, and now you expect APT to work?
[18:40] <outerlimit> Alright, brb.
[18:40] <LjL> you have too high expectations
[18:40] <Le_Fou`Absent> i wanted to uninstall apache LjL..
[18:40] <Apocalypse_dn> Let's go to windows channels and spam there, shell we?:)
[18:40] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: so why didn't you just do "sudo apt-get remove apache2"?
[18:41] <rico> anyone tried installing linux-backports-modules-generic?
[18:41] <predaeus> Le_Fou`Absent, I am sure you can just force a remove or force a reinstall and then remove.
[18:41] <Le_Fou`Absent> Carnage\ LjL i have done it and it didnt remove it
[18:41] <Le_Fou`Absent> it was still running..
[18:41] <Apocalypse_dn> shall*
[18:41] <rico> it has nothing but /usr/share/doc/linux-backports-modules-generic!
[18:41] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: that doesn't mean it didn't remove it. anyway, *what stuff* exactly have you "rm"ed?
[18:42] <fyrestrtr> Le_Fou`Absent: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop && sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[18:42] <Barbarello> hi!
[18:42] <Le_Fou`Absent> folder apache2 in /etc/ and /usr/
[18:42] <Le_Fou`Absent> /usr/lib*
[18:43] <fiendfyre> This CoverFlow thing could be really nice inside nautilus... Too bad apple has registered a patent =\
[18:43] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: nothing else? just /etc/apache2 and /usr/lib/apache2 ?
[18:43] <SteveG> Pici:  thanks that worked
[18:43] <Le_Fou`Absent> yes
[18:43] <Barbarello> I've got an binary of jre6u3. How to install it properly and where? It sets up at current dir (
[18:43] <SteveG> next question..... whats the best way of managing wireless connections
[18:44] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: hold on a moment, i'll try to find out which packages may keep files in there
[18:44] <fiendfyre> mistone, Is avant under active development?
[18:44] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok
[18:44] <fyrestrtr> Barbarello: use apt to install java, its available there.
[18:44] <Pici> Barbarello: java is in the ubuntu repositries, there shouldnt be a need to install it manually.
[18:44] <gene6482> i have a toshiba laptop, and the sd card reader auto mounted with feisty, but it doesn't work with gutsy, can somebody help?
[18:45] <rico> should I uninstall linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic so I can install backports (linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic)?
[18:45] <mistone> fiendfyre: yea
[18:45] <mistone> fiendfyre: I guess its not in the repo's
[18:45] <Barbarello> i've downloaded it already ( Is here the way to install binary?
[18:45] <aQ> Hey! What sreen recorder should I use?
[18:46] <vulcanius> with multiple instances of java you'll want to use update-alternatives to switch between them
[18:46] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: please type the command at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43035/plain/ and paste the output into the pastebin
[18:46] <Odd-rationale> aQ: gtk-recordMyDesktop
[18:46] <aQ> Thanks
[18:46] <Pici> Barbarello: There is but I don't suggest it, you will have problems with upgrading later.
[18:46] <Odd-rationale> aQ: or instabul
[18:46] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok
[18:47] <aQ> I'll try gtk-record...
[18:47] <Pici> Barbarello: chmod +x filename.bin; sudo ./filename.bin
[18:47] <joe-f> anyone know if/how i can get beep to play on my local machine via SSH?  this works great, but locally:  tail -f file.log | beep -f 1500 -l 12 -s
[18:47] <Rabiddog> Whats the name of a program that allows me to convert pdf documents to jpegs?
[18:47] <gene6482> this is the error i get
[18:47] <gene6482> [   51.636000] FAT: Unrecognized mount option "usefree" or missing value
[18:47] <SteveG> whats the best way to join a wireless network on boot?
[18:47] <freak124> who was helping me a few minutes ago?
[18:47] <Barbarello> Pici: thanks! I'll try
[18:47]  * Rabiddog looks around
[18:48] <KondDrakul> how install programs with live cd in the hard disk ?
[18:48] <rico> KondDrakul, double-click the "install" icon on the livecd's desktop.
[18:48] <UbuntuPwns> he said install programs
[18:48] <fyrestrtr> KondDrakul: you want to install the system or just a program?
[18:49] <KondDrakul> rico: but it says the programs is installed
[18:49] <KondDrakul> rico: i need to install some package for example in the hard disk
[18:49] <Harle1> I decided to create two new partitions to store my music and files then booted into my system. The volume's will mount but I can't do anything with them as I don't have permissions, have tried chown but then the volume just mounts into another folder such as disk2 or whatever, can someone help?
[18:50] <LjL> Rabiddog: pdftoppm filename.pdf ConvertedPDF ; for File in ConvertedPDF-*; do ppmtojpeg $File "$(basename $File .ppm).jpeg"; done
[18:50] <boris> Vlet : my mp3 player wont play .ogg files
[18:50] <Rabiddog> ljl
[18:50] <LjL> Rabiddog: you need the "netpbm" and "poppler-utils" package installed, and you will find the output in files called ConvertedPDF-pagenumber.jpeg
[18:50] <scragar>  boris: lame and it's gui, Glame are capable of converting back to MP3
[18:50] <MilitantPotato> Has anyone had any issues with the new compiz update on Ubuntu gutsy?
[18:51] <Bonster> http://youtube.com/watch?v=G9WBeUboXu0
[18:51] <freak124> according to gparted there are no partitions on my computer, though I run windows on it and it goes perfectly. Nautilus can see the partitions to, but the installer can't either...
[18:51] <Rabiddog> LjL, I wish there was sumthing not commandline
[18:52] <UbuntuPwns> gotta get used to the command line some time or another :D
[18:52] <Harle1> oh yeah and I've done gksudo nautilus as well and it didn't help either, anyone?
[18:52] <Zzoli> Hi!
[18:52] <LjL> Rabiddog: take a screenshot of your favorite PDF viewer?
[18:52] <BockBilbo> hello
[18:52] <Le_Fou`Absent> LjL here's the link : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43037/
[18:52] <boris> scragar : thanksž
[18:52] <fyrestrtr> Harle1: you need to change the mount options in /etc/fstab for that partition -- add users to the list.
[18:52] <boris> thanks*
[18:53] <BockBilbo> i dont know how, but somehow i have a file named '-v' at my ubuntu server's home.... anyone knows how to remove it?
[18:53] <Harle1> ok will give that a bash, thank ye kindly
[18:53] <freak124> anyone who can help me out with my broken partition table?
[18:53] <Pancakes> http://phorolinux.com/images/2007/10/ubuntu-studio-look.png - How do I get the icons on the bottom like that?
[18:53] <rico> freak124, what have you tried?
[18:53] <fyrestrtr> Harle1: man mount for more details
[18:53] <MilitantPotato> Pancakes: xfrce
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> Pancakes: Use AWN or something
[18:54] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: you aren't on Gutsy?
[18:54] <freak124> rico, I've tried to use gparted
[18:54] <predaeus> Rabiddog, apparently Image Magick allows to do this.
[18:54] <Zzoli> Can anyone halep with upgrading to gusty? Ikeep geting an error message concerning authentication with theese: kdelibs-data,kdelibs4c2a,tzdata,and ubufox   ?
[18:54] <freak124> but it doesn't show any partitions at all
[18:54] <neverblue> BockBilbo, who is the owner of the file, and what permissions does it have ? ls -la | grep v
[18:54] <predaeus> Rabiddog, looks for "convert" and "imagemagick"
[18:54] <rico> you'll need some sort of partition recovering utility
[18:55] <BockBilbo> neverblue im the ownser
[18:55] <orionr> Does anyone have vmware server working on 7.10?
[18:55] <rico> to search your disk for missing partitions
[18:55] <LjL> !info testdisk | rico
[18:55] <neverblue> BockBilbo, and permissions?
[18:55] <BockBilbo> theproblem is that a file never should begin with a -v
[18:55] <BockBilbo> and when i try rm -v
[18:55] <BockBilbo> rm takes -v as an argument
[18:55] <ubotu> rico: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[18:55] <neverblue> ....
[18:55] <MilitantPotato> BockBilbo: use quotes
[18:55] <scragar> BockBilbo: rm "./-v"
[18:55] <Le_Fou`Absent> no LjL
[18:55] <BockBilbo> mm
[18:55] <rico> yes, something like that :)
[18:55] <MilitantPotato> BockBilbo: using quotes will ensure it knows you're talking about a file name
[18:56] <LjL> MilitantPotato: quotes won't work
[18:56] <rico> !info linux-backports-modules-generic
[18:56] <LjL> MilitantPotato: not really, you can quote options
[18:56] <ubotu> linux-backports-modules-generic: Backported drivers for generic kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[18:56] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: that's a problem, since i'm on Gutsy. what are you on?
[18:56] <MilitantPotato> LjL really... hmm
[18:56] <BockBilbo> MilitantPotato scragar neverblue doesnt work
[18:56] <BockBilbo> the folder is not beeing removed
[18:56] <scragar> folder?
[18:56] <neverblue> u never said it was a folder
[18:56] <MilitantPotato> have you tried rmdir
[18:56] <MilitantPotato> cause rm is for files
[18:56] <LjL> BockBilbo, "rm" doesn't remove directories.
[18:56] <BockBilbo> man
[18:56] <BockBilbo> rm -Rf
[18:56] <BockBilbo> or rmdir
[18:57] <BockBilbo> i knowd that
[18:57] <neverblue> BockBilbo, do you mind checking the permissions, and possibly copy/pasting the error here ?
[18:57] <Pici> BockBilbo: rm -rf \-vfilename
[18:57] <BockBilbo> neverblue the persmissions dont matter, even as root its not beeig removed
[18:57] <ldiamond> Whats the main difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server
[18:57] <neverblue> if you say so
[18:57] <LjL> Pici, i don't think \ will work either
[18:57] <ldiamond> An gubuntu and xubuntu and things like that
[18:57] <neverblue> good luck
[18:57] <Pici> LjL: Its worth a try
[18:57] <kbrooks> ldiamond, ubuntu has the same core, no DE
[18:57] <BockBilbo> -rw-r--r-- 1 unai unai 149 2007-10-24 17:02 -v
[18:57] <MilitantPotato> ldiamond: server comes with server stuff pre-installed
[18:57] <kemik_> !nvidia
[18:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:58] <Pancakes> I was trying to install AWN but I got this error "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:58] <Pancakes> "
[18:58] <Le_Fou`Absent> LjL 6.06 lts server edition
[18:58] <MilitantPotato> close synaptic
[18:58] <Chemist_> hi guys
[18:58] <rico> Pancakes, are you running update manager in the background?
[18:58] <rico> Pancakes, or another instance of apt-get / dpkg / etc?
[18:58] <Chemist_> having a bit of a problem with my network
[18:58] <LjL> BockBilbo: what exactly does it say when you do   rmdir './-v' ?
[18:58] <kbrooks> ldiamond, xubuntu has XFCE. kubuntu has KDE, and Gobuntu has GNOME with no non-free stuff
[18:59] <BockBilbo> it says its not a directory
[18:59] <alfanick> Hi. I have some questions about special edition of Ubuntu for VM. Will it be server or/and desktop edition? And when?
[18:59] <Chemist_> i've just updated to gutsy and i can ping my linux box but i'm unable to get on the internet
[18:59] <freak124> rico, the problem is, they aren't realy gone, because windows and nautilus can see them, I think my partition table is just broken
[18:59] <Chemist_> oh and from my linux box i can ping my router
[18:59] <ldiamond> I thought ubuntu had gnome too
[18:59] <MilitantPotato> ldiamond: you can take any of the *ubuntu and install whats on a different *buntu
[18:59] <BockBilbo> this is pretty weird
[18:59] <Pici> BockBilbo: Its working here for me if I try to delete a directory named -test using rm -rf ./-test
[18:59] <Pancakes> Thanks MilitantPotato
[18:59] <ldiamond> I see
[18:59] <MilitantPotato> ldiamond: I have Xubuntu Kubuntu and Ubuntu installed on this pc, (just installed the packages)
[18:59] <BockBilbo> Pici it doesnt here
[19:00] <ldiamond> Oh, alright
[19:00] <BockBilbo> perhaps i never created that file
[19:00] <KondDrakul> rico: this is wht i say :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[19:00] <cube> !offtopic
[19:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:00] <Pici> BockBilbo: Do you see it when you ls in its parent directory?
[19:00] <Bonster> any1 got usb working in Vbox?
[19:00] <BockBilbo> Pici  ys
[19:00] <cube> !anyone
[19:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:00] <rico> konddrakul, if linux and windows can both read it, how can you say it's broken?
[19:01] <zombie_monkey> I set up firestarter to share my internet connection, but ekiga has problem with its NAT
[19:01] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: then use this command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43038/ and give me the output again
[19:01] <KondDrakul> rico: i don't say it is broken all
[19:01] <aterphasma> i have AIGLX/compiz running right now, and i noticed that i can't use alt+shift+tab to go backwards in the list; is there a way i can enable that?
[19:02] <scragar> BockBilbo: sudo rm -rf "./-v"
[19:02] <LjL> BockBilbo: indeed, it doesn't look like a directory, since ls says "-rw-r--r--"... i think it would say "drw-r--r--" if it were a directory.   what does « rm './-v' » say?
[19:02] <BockBilbo> mmm
[19:02] <BockBilbo> workd
[19:02] <BockBilbo> :S
[19:02] <BockBilbo> pretty wierd
[19:02] <BockBilbo> :S
[19:02] <rico> aterphasma, install compizconfig-settings-manager (if you haven't yet), then run ccsm. that setting should be under Application Switcher
[19:02] <BockBilbo> thanks a lot
[19:02] <BockBilbo> :)
[19:02] <flush> maybay mayday
[19:03] <aterphasma> rico: thanks, lemme give that a try
[19:03] <Le_Fou`Absent> LjL i cant see all the output coz its too long.even if i use shit page up
[19:03] <flush> how can i use both ath0 and eth0 to connect to irc
[19:03] <BockBilbo> now...
[19:03] <flush> one using eth0 and another one using wifi on another router ath0
[19:03] <LjL> !info pastebinit | Le_Fou`Absent
[19:03] <ubotu> le_fou`absent: pastebinit: command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 84 kB
[19:03] <darkspirit_> Hi all. Where can I find Ubuntu codecs?
[19:03] <scragar> darkspirit_: for what?
[19:03] <pike_> !restricted | darkspirit_
[19:03] <ubotu> darkspirit_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:03] <BockBilbo> Ive just made a nice python script to watch tv for tv tuner cards that use the go7007 driver
[19:03] <BockBilbo> anyone here with a go7007 tuner and wis-streamer wants to try it out??
[19:04] <caner> i cant get gutsy to detect my usb devices. but if they are plugged before the machine boots up they can be detected. what is the command for scanning them??
[19:04] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: add « | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.com » to the end of that command
[19:04] <darkspirit_> scragar: For MP3, WMA, and WAV.
[19:04] <pike_> caner: what does lsusb say?
[19:04] <Creedence> !automatix
[19:04] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[19:04] <pike_> caner: er dont paste whole thing here though
[19:05] <Le_Fou`Absent> LjL pastebinit is not installed and i cant apt-get it :/
 they cannot be seen at lsusb
[19:05] <scragar> darkspirit_: just use VLC
[19:05] <Pancakes> Whenever I click on AWN Manager in the System > Preferences it does do anything
[19:05] <joe--f> How can I play an audio file (or system beep) when a log file gets updated - remotely over SSH?
[19:05] <scragar> darkspirit_: further codecs than the ones it comes with built in a rarely required
[19:05] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: oh, perhaps it isn't available in Dapper. then just add « | grep -B 1 "Installed:" » to the end of the command, it should make the output much shorter
[19:06] <fish_> i have a question about the livecd: the rootfs of the livecd is a squashfs image in /ubuntu on the cd. but the packages for the installation are in /pool. so it is necesserly that the livecd mounts the cd somewhere at in a step in the boot progress. but when?
 ok i wont paste, only my usb mouse can be seen therewhich i plugged before the computer boot
[19:06] <darkspirit_> scragar: So I just need to download VLC?
[19:06] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok.yea i fink its not available
[19:06] <gerro> Creedence: you forgot a link to one of several dozen articles on the various over 40 ways automatix breaks your system ^^
[19:06] <dn4> how does one remove a .dir
if i unpulg and plug it again it wont work
[19:06] <scragar> darkspirit_: for most formats yeah
[19:06] <dn4> rm -r .* ?
[19:06] <gerro> dn4: always do rm -Rf to delete something
[19:07] <Pici> dn4: no.  rm -rf .directory
[19:07] <darkspirit_> scragar: Ok, thanks.
[19:07] <dn4> well I have directories that are hidden
[19:07] <LjL> gerro: "always" do? that doesn't sound like good advice to me
[19:07] <dn4> which require ls -a to be seen
[19:07] <Creedence> gerro, sorry, I actually was just curious to see what was written in here from ubotu
[19:07] <Pici> dn4: you want to delete all hidden directories?
[19:07] <dn4> they are listed as .dir
[19:07] <dn4> yes
[19:07] <Creedence> gerro, I have used it in the past and was just wondering
[19:07] <gerro> LjL: its what I do so *shrugs*
[19:07] <Pici> dn4: rm -r .* will delete all hidden directories *and* files
[19:07] <dn4> with out deleting the directores not hidden
[19:07] <LjL> !worksforme | gerro, wait until you delete your most important work by mistake
[19:07] <ubotu> gerro, wait until you delete your most important work by mistake: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[19:08] <gerro> Creedence: well I'll see if I can find you an article
[19:08] <LjL> dn4: that's because it's their name. you just delete them normally, *with* the "." in the name
[19:08] <Creedence> gerro, cool, thx
[19:08] <dn4> hmm
[19:08] <nedrik> hi! can anyone suggest a program for following thing... playing music of different formats, playlist, playlist search, lightweigth
[19:08] <Busta--> Hi, when installing 7.10 for some reason i get dumped to the "busybox" screen, is there any solution to this?
[19:08] <darkspirit_> Can anyone give me a website for Ubuntu Themes?
[19:08] <scragar> dn4: get into the habit of putting ./ infront of files names often as well, avoids some errors.
[19:08] <LjL> !themes > darkspirit_    (darkspirit_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[19:09] <Busta--> im searching the fourms
[19:09] <dn4> rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[19:09] <dn4> rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[19:09] <Odd-rationale> darkspirit_: art.gnome.org
[19:09] <Busta--> but i cant find an anwser
[19:09] <DreamLiner> hello
[19:09] <dn4> scragar, put ./ ? hmm
[19:09] <Odd-rationale> darkspirit_: or gnome-look.org
[19:09] <LjL> dn4, are you trying to remove *all* the dot directories that you have? in your home directory?
[19:09] <caner> could someone please tell me the command for making ubuntu scan plugged usb devices??
[19:09] <dn4> LjL, pretty much
[19:09] <jo0m> nedrik, audacious
[19:09] <Pici> dn4: Thats what happens when you do .* , which I suggested tht you probably didnt want to do.,
[19:09] <outerlimit> Alright, I got the dual monitors working, but now Compiz will no longer start... Any suggestions?
[19:09] <dn4> is that ok to do?
[19:09] <dxdt> nedrik: I can do all of those with Rhythmbox and it is using 24 mb right now though...  hmmmm  I guess that is a little high, but my system doens't lag or anything.
[19:09] <luca> help me please
[19:09] <LjL> dn4: ... why? that will delete all your config files.
[19:09] <Le_Fou`Absent> LjL : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43040/
[19:09] <scragar> . and .. are essential, you shouldn't delete them
[19:09] <Pici> dn4: There are a lot of settings in there you probably dont want to remove.
[19:09] <dn4> alright
[19:09] <Pici> scragar: shouldnt/can't
[19:09] <dn4> :)
[19:10] <dn4> i'll remember that
[19:10] <manu__> ubuntu.it?????
[19:10] <LjL> dn4: although, you've done it already i think.
[19:10] <gerro> LjL: I was under the impression delete means delete but even if you unhandicap rm, you can still recover stuff from the hard drive, so please don't patronize me
[19:10] <Pici> !it | manu__
[19:10] <ubotu> manu__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:10] <dn4> LjL, I did it on
[19:10] <luca> it looks like I am with a computer infected with viruses - or so I'd think if I were not running Ubuntu!
[19:10] <los> how can i get contacts from gmail to evolution?
[19:10] <ymedesktop> question regarding ndiswrapper if anyone has the time and patience.
[19:10] <los> import them...
[19:10] <luca> I found today my xorg.conf totally disastered
[19:10] <dn4> dn4@dn4:/mnt/dn4$ rm -r .*
[19:10] <nedrik> dxdt: it has to do something with idealism... on windows, i used foobar2000 it fulfilled more than i wanted, but was faster then any other program of that style
[19:10] <nedrik> jo0m: ill give it a try, thank you
[19:10] <luca> had to login via emergency session and force install all xorg!
[19:11] <LjL> gerro, no, you cannot recover stuff that you "rm". and i won't patronize you as long as you *don't give bad advice to others* - if you do, then expect all kinds of patronizing.
[19:11] <scragar> los: export your contacts in the comma seperated format for outlook, then use evolution to import the file
[19:11] <jo0m> nedrik, it's something like winamp
[19:11] <los> ok
[19:11] <los> thnx
[19:12] <dn4> again thank you everyone who helped me with the commands
[19:12] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: type: sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2-common libapache2-mod-php5
[19:12] <ymedesktop> question regarding ndiswrapper if anyone has the time and patience.
[19:12] <dxdt> nedrik: songbird is also a possibility, though I haven't used it in like a year so I don't know what it is like now.  I don't get foobar personally, I just ended up customizing it to do what a lot of players did off the bat and then one day I was like "Oh..."  I would suggest just opening synaptic and searching around for music and such
[19:12] <DreamLiner> i have a problem with wireless, hp dv6000 bcm43xx. it shows that wireless adapter is working, but when i try to configure it, it starts showing up as disconnected. ifconfig shows the adapter as well as iwconfig. but accesspoint is not found. what do i do?
[19:12] <dn4> now I get to sit back for a wwhile
[19:12] <dn4> dn4@dn4:/mnt$ cp -vr dn4/ /usb
[19:12] <nedrik> jo0m: hm, i think winamp is crap, i used foobar2000, dont know if you know that player, but is is extremely configurable etc
[19:12] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: and then: sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2
[19:12] <Busta--> anyone have the busybox issue when installing 7.10
[19:13] <Busta--> if you have overcame this issue, your input would be greatly appricated!!!
[19:13] <francis> Where Ubuntu Brasil
[19:13] <LjL> !br | francis
[19:13] <ubotu> francis: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:13] <jo0m> nedrik, sorry i did't used foobar2000, than you need something else,
[19:13] <francis> #ubuntu-br
[19:13] <LjL> francis: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:13] <francis> thanks
[19:13] <darkspirit_> Odd-rationale: How can I open the themes I download?
[19:13] <yurimxpxman> I noticed that gutsy's compiz fusion is a LOT faster than the old beryl on my 7300GT. Will it work smoothly on an ATI x550 now?
[19:13] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok
[19:13] <BockBilbo> bye!
[19:13] <iac_lizardking> hello everybody. Someone have Acpi and Dsdt skills?
[19:14] <burwaco> yurimxpxman: I have it working smoothly on a radeon mobility 9600...
[19:14] <Busta--> LjL: any ideas on install process (7.10) getting stuck at busybox?
[19:14] <SoulSeaker> is there any way to increase monitors gama
[19:14] <Le_Fou`Absent> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[19:14] <snarkyFish> Hey, I've got a VM'd ubuntu installation, no X..  How would I change the terminal resolution? (it seems stuck at 640)  Is that a setting in the VM? or can i tell ubu to force a resolution?
[19:14] <dxdt> yurimxpxman: I would guess probably not because ATI sucks it up at drivers.  They are beginning to change however, so it will get better and better with each new driver release.  I had an X series card and although It could do it, it wasn't the best
[19:14]  * Le_Fou`Absent wished he had back up his apache2.conf :/
[19:14] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: i VERY STRONGLY suggest that you NEVER touch anything in /usr manually again. APT expects it to be its own realm, and all kind of bad things may happen if you don't respect that. everything that is installed in /usr by APT can be *removed* by APT.
[19:14] <iac_lizardking> I have problem with my Amilo m 1425: the fan make a lot of noise
[19:15] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: try just typing it again
[19:15] <yurimxpxman> dxdt: where you using the fglrx driver or the open radeon?
[19:15] <jo0m> nedrik, i think this would be better choice: http://amarok.kde.org/
[19:15] <dxdt> yurimxpxman: I messed around with both.  Got the best results with fglrx and XGL I guess thinking about it.  Now I'm using nvidia and everything is butter even with dual 17 inch monitors.
[19:15] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok LjL.ill remember this and thanks for taking the time to help
[19:16] <dxdt> yurimxpxman:   I believe at the time my card had "partial" 3d support in the open driver.  That may have changed by now.
[19:16] <nedrik> ok, audacious is ok for the first time... it plays some tracks... now ill try amorok. another question... i heared, on kde there is an alt+f2 keyboard shortcut to start applications. is there a program which does the same on openbox
[19:16] <yurimxpxman> dxdt: how long ago was that?
[19:17] <zeroflag> when I start the 7.10 live CD (no matter what VGA mode, even safe graphics) it just goes black and nothing happens. any idea? got onboard 7025 and gf8800(which I'm using and which is set up in bios)
[19:17] <LjL> Le_Fou`Absent: is it still giving you the error even when you try it again?
[19:17] <EminX> how to install flash player from Terminal
[19:17] <nedrik> ok, amarok does have lots of depencies...
[19:17] <gerro> Le_Fou`Absent: may programs use /usr not just apt, its like the place to put general applications
[19:17] <dxdt> yurimxpxman: ummmmm before 7.10.  before the recent ATI release of specs.  A lot may have changed actually the more I think about this so I don't think my experiences are as reliable as I thought at first.  I'm probably too out of date to comment.
[19:17] <burwaco> yurimxpxman: just try out fglrx driver, It will be fine...
[19:17] <LjL> gerro: which should only be put there by APT, yes (except for /usr/local)
[19:18] <Le_Fou`Absent> i dunno LjL coz my dad switched it off -.-
[19:18] <Le_Fou`Absent> ill try tomorrow
[19:18] <Le_Fou`Absent> ok gerro
[19:18]  * dxdt notices that with two tabs open firefox is using 124 mb....wtf??  farking firefox.
[19:18] <Niteye> i cant make new users, when i try to get them to log in i just get a blank screen (i did manage to get one extra user to work but i dont know how, but i copied his homedir from some place else)
[19:18] <sydbarrett> hello i a problem about sata hdd
[19:18] <SoulSeeker> can i somehow increase my monitos gama in gnome desktop?
[19:18] <SudoKing> EminX, you can download the archive off the macromedia site.  Just unpackage it and put the .so file in your plugins directory and the xpi in the extensions directory
[19:18] <zeroflag> when I start the 7.10 live CD (no matter what VGA mode, even safe graphics) the screen just goes black (it goes to standby) and nothing happens. any idea? got onboard 7025 and gf8800(which I'm using and which is set up in bios)
[19:18] <sydbarrett> when install pack comes to %94 it giving an error messaje to me "error"
[19:19] <burwaco> yurimxpxman: I'm playing 3d games scnce ubuntu 5.10... prop driver...
[19:19] <jo0m> nedrik, i dont know for openbox,
[19:19] <dxdt> EminX: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:19] <Bupsss> hello
[19:19] <iac_lizardking> hello
[19:19] <Bupsss> i have a problem with sh files
[19:19] <EminX> SudoKing: I'm new in linux, so what's the difference between these 3 option
[19:19] <iac_lizardking> is there who knows about ACPI?
[19:19] <sydbarrett> emin
[19:19] <dxdt> EminX: that will get you the adobe version.  IF you want gnash, that is different
[19:19] <Bupsss> i created a sh file to run "sudo nautilus"
[19:19] <nedrik> jo0m: thanks for thinking >/(
[19:19] <sydbarrett> Türkçe biliyorsun
[19:19] <Pici> EminX: listen to dxdt's suggestion
[19:19] <EminX> tar.gz    .rpm     YUM
[19:19] <Bupsss> and it asketd for password, and was working
[19:19] <yurimxpxman> burwaco: I had the best experience with the open radeon drivers about two years ago. That card's in my mom's computer now, so I'm debating whether I should bother with compiz-fusion yet
[19:20] <WannaBeHaCkeR> su padre
[19:20] <`cb> hi.
[19:20] <SudoKing> tar.gz
[19:20] <Bupsss> now... i have to run through the terminal, otherwise it doesnt work
[19:20] <`cb> you need a back button in your installer!!!
[19:20] <LjL> !tr | sydbarrett
[19:20] <ubotu> sydbarrett: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[19:20] <Bupsss> anybodw knows why?
[19:20] <dn4> how fast is usb 1.0 ?
[19:20] <nedrik> jo0m: ehrm that should be a smiley, but iam not able to configure my keyboard to german layout yet...
[19:20] <SudoKing> Eminex:tar.gz
[19:20] <zeroflag> oh, I was wrong. it came back. oO
[19:20] <sydbarrett> thnx LjL
[19:20] <Pici> EminX: This isnt the suggested way of installing flash.
[19:20] <Pici> !flash | EminX
[19:20] <ubotu> EminX: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:20] <gerro> !worksforme | LjL
[19:20] <ubotu> LjL: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[19:20] <scragar> Bupsss: gksudo nautilus
[19:20] <LjL> gerro: what is that for?
[19:20] <jo0m> nedrik, :)
[19:21] <Busta--> !flash | busybox
[19:21] <ubotu> busybox: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:21] <EminX> ubotu: I'm going through that link
[19:21] <Bupsss> gk?
[19:21] <EminX> ubotu: thanks
[19:21] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[19:21] <Busta--> !busybox
[19:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:21] <burwaco> yurimxpxman: personally, and with my hardware, it's not top, if I want to run stuff like stellarium or UT4 or Enemy territory I have to logout and start those programs from a different session, for everything else it's super...
[19:21] <burwaco> brb
[19:21] <Busta--> fucking busybox
[19:22] <Pici> !language | Busta--
[19:22] <LjL> !language | Busta--
[19:22] <ubotu> Busta--: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[19:22] <Busta--> oh sorry to the kids in the audience
[19:22] <burwaco> yurimxpxman: p.s. I'm running the driver from the repos, haven't tried ati.com's yet...
[19:22] <act1v8> How can I sync my Nokia N91 contacts and calendar with Evolution and vice versa?
[19:22] <snowniak> does somebody ever had problems to detect SATA harddrives?
[19:22] <SudoKing> eminex: do you have firefox
[19:22] <minus> I downloaded Songbird. And it was precompiled an everything so I put the executable in /usr/bin/ but where to I put the directory with all the data?
[19:23] <Bax_> what does it mean when somebody tells me to "chmod to 775" in the terminal?
[19:23] <LjL> minus: you should NOT use /usr/bin for stuff you install manually. use /usr/local/bin or /opt
[19:23] <stefveselinov> whats up, bots :)
[19:24] <scragar> chmod = assigning permitions, see "man chmod" for more information about specific usage
[19:24] <caner> could someone please tell me the command for making ubuntu scan plugged usb devices??
[19:24] <LjL> caner: lsusb
[19:24] <paron> Hi, gedit makes my login account to logout sometimes, witch log files should i look in to see whats causing it ?
[19:24] <minus> LjL, but then I cant exec by just doing: "songbird" in a terminal
[19:24] <scragar> Bax_: chmod 755 F/path/file
[19:24] <vivekraj> how can i upload photos from my nokia 7610 mobil??
[19:24] <patrik> minus: copy the whole songbird folder to /opt and make a symlink in /usr/local/bin to /opt/songbird/songbird
[19:25] <LjL> minus: for /usr/local/bin, yes you can. for /opt, you'll have to add it to your PATH variable if you want to do that.
[19:25] <LjL> or make a symlink in /usr/local/bin, yes
[19:25] <jo0m> Bax_, 7 means rwx and 5 means r-x,
 no they cannot be seen by lsusb unless they are plugged before the machine boots up
[19:25] <LjL> caner: then i don't know
 thanks anyway
[19:26] <vivekraj> how can i upload photos from my nokia mobile phone to hard disk using ubuntu??
[19:26] <dryrot> how do I get my window manager to work again after hibernation/suspend on my laptop ?
[19:26] <burwaco> vivekraj: do your phone and pc have bluetooth ?
[19:27] <vivekraj> i am having a data cable
[19:27] <jo0m> Bax_, first number are rules for user, second group, and third others
[19:28] <jayessp> accidentally issued usermod with -G option to add group, looks like broke my sudo access. any way to fix it without reboot with livecd?
[19:28] <vivekraj> i connect my phone through data cable for internet access
[19:28] <Bupsss> i have a weird problem, when i had feisty i was using a p2p program called streamerone
[19:28] <amunra> Is it better to create an EXT2 partition instead of the other file system choices on an older HDD such as a WD 10GB?
[19:29] <Bupsss> writing in the terminal "streamerone" it was working correctly
[19:29] <Bupsss> upgrading to gutsy, when i write the same command it says "command unknown"
[19:29] <minus> patrik, LjL, How do I make a symlink / Paththingy
[19:29] <Bupsss> anybody knows why?
[19:29] <ymedesktop> Having problems with ndsiwrapper, it's hanging when i do a -l command, and when i open up a gui for it's listed drivers. I even manually removed all the drivers
[19:30] <vivekraj> can i upload photos from my nokia mobile through data cable???
[19:31] <zeroflag> LjL: could you give ubotu a voice so he comes up in the nicklist? kinda annoying to type the bot name every time in a graphical IRC client...
[19:31] <lgc> !paste
[19:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:31] <vivekraj> burwaco:can i upload photos from my nokia mobile through data cable???
[19:31] <Bax_> hello?
[19:31] <minus> bahello
[19:31] <minus> Bax_, * hello*
[19:32] <confuzed> Can anyone here help me understand the way gnome icon themes work... I need to find a way to refer the the current user's cdrom icon... reguardless of the theme they are using.
[19:32] <ymedesktop> Having problems with ndsiwrapper, it's hanging when i do a -l command, and when i open up a gui for it's listed drivers. I even manually removed all the drivers
[19:32] <jo0m> Bax_, hi
[19:32] <jayessp> is there a separate channel for virtualbox on ubuntu?
[19:33] <patrik> minus: ln -s /opt/songbird/sonbird /usr/local/bin/songbird
[19:33] <Megaqwerty> jayessp: if there is, I doubt it's highly trafficed. I'd just join the main virtualbox channel.
[19:33] <Megaqwerty> jayessp: #vbox
[19:34] <zeroflag> is there any option to use LVM (raid0) with the ubuntu installer or some kind of tutorial?
[19:35] <minus> patrik, bash: /usr/bin/songbird: No such file or directory
[19:35] <minus> get that error when I do "songbird" in a terminal
[19:35] <Hirvinen> Graah.
[19:35] <TJHairball> I'm having a problem with GAIM... I just installed 7.04 over 6.10, and it imported my preferences - but somehow I have no AIM buddylist and can't add buddies on my AIM account.
[19:35] <Telo> hmmm
[19:36] <Logixal> can you just do sudo su so you dont have to do sudo anymore while ssh in?
[19:36] <void^> Logixal: sudo -i
[19:36] <vivekraj> burwaco: yes i  am having bluetooth in my mobile as well as in my computer
[19:36] <jayessp> sudo su - returns not authorized
[19:36] <burwaco> vivekraj: it should be easy then...
[19:36] <yme1> Having problems with ndsiwrapper, it's hanging when i do a -l command, and when i open up a gui for it's listed drivers. I even manually removed all the drivers
[19:37] <burwaco> vivekraj: activate bluetooth on your pc, then search for your pc in your mobile phone and send the files...
[19:37] <EminX> who is ready to help a beginner in Linux OS
[19:37] <scragar> I've heard of people having problems with the splash screens in gutsy, anyone know if I should be woried about ading one?
[19:38] <scragar> EminX: just ask
[19:38] <vivekraj> burwaco: is it possible with the data cable????
[19:38] <minus> patrik, *poke* it didn't work..
[19:38] <HexenKatze> hmh?
[19:38] <EminX> installing flash player for browser firefox
[19:38] <burwaco> vivekraj: I don't know, never used a  datacable...
[19:38] <HexenKatze> hi
[19:38] <TJHairball> should be, but I can't remember if I ever got gnokii working right
[19:38] <EminX> scragar: the easiest way plz
[19:38] <HexenKatze> bye
[19:38] <bpat1434> Hi all. Just reinstalled Ubuntu, and was wondering if the nvidia-glx-new is just a packaged version of the nVidia released drivers
[19:38] <confuzed> EminX, it should prompt you to install if you visit a page that uses flash
[19:39] <EminX> confuzed: yep
[19:39] <scragar> EminX: you using ubuntu 7.10?
[19:39] <confuzed> EminX, it should do it automatically
[19:39] <EminX> scragar: right
[19:39] <patrik> minus: ok, first step: extract the songbird tarball with: tar xzf Songbird_0.3_linux-i686.tar.gz
[19:39] <EminX> confuzed: I tried Youtube, and asked me for flashplayer
[19:39] <renato> how to config plone+apache on 7.10?
[19:39] <minus> patrik, already done..
[19:40] <confuzed> EminX, just follow the prompts to install...
[19:40] <minus> I have already moved the directory to "/opt"
[19:40] <EminX> confuzed: then I went through that link in Youtube you know
[19:40] <scragar> EminX: then just visit any page that uses flash, you'll get a list of around 4 plugins that all support flash, simply pick the latest official one and your good to go.
[19:40] <EminX> scragar: confuzed: there are 3 option
[19:41] <patrik> minus: then-> sudo mv Songbird /opt/
[19:41] <minus> patrik, done
[19:41] <scragar> EminX: I said around 4 not exactly 4. :P
[19:41] <confuzed> EminX, Are you talking about the pop-up that comes up saying plugin required... and it wants to walk you through installing one?
[19:41] <EminX> scragar:  what's the difference between .tar.gz , .rpm,  YUM
[19:41] <confuzed> EminX, you don't need to download it from a website
[19:41] <patrik> minus: sudo ln -s /opt/Songbird/songbird /usr/local/bin/songbird
[19:41] <hangarninetysix> can anyone help me with getting my computer to boot from the disc i burned?
[19:41] <EminX> confuzed: so
[19:42] <EminX> confuzed: I'm following your sudgest
[19:42] <confuzed> EminX, your browser should display a message that says something like "Plugin required to view content on this page... click here to install flash player"
[19:42] <kaikai> I am getting an error.. grub failed to load error 21    is this bad?? lol
[19:42] <minus> patrik, Done. And now i still get: bash: /usr/bin/songbird: No such file or directory
[19:42] <BubblegumTate> hangar: you tried just rebooting with it int the drive?
[19:42] <hangarninetysix> yes
[19:42] <scragar> EminX: never used YUM, but tar and gz are both archives(think zip) and rpm is an installer that ubuntu can't use without a little help
[19:42] <patrik> minus: now you can start it with typing "songbird"
[19:42] <minus> patrik, well, I cant
[19:42] <hangarninetysix> er, actually i dont think i have, but i used the key comination for the firmware
[19:42] <hangarninetysix> that shows where i can boot from
[19:42] <BubblegumTate> okay
[19:42] <hangarninetysix> and it only found the hard drive, which has mac os x
[19:42] <minus> patrik, I still get: bash: /usr/bin/songbird: No such file or directory
[19:42] <WindowSmasher> I'm trying to use the pam-keyring trick so my network manager in gnome will automatically log in without asking for the keyring password.  I can't get it to work after following these instructions: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[19:43] <BubblegumTate> ah
[19:43] <hoarycripple> minus, you don't have /usr/local/bin in your path
[19:43] <EminX> CounterFx`Zemapp: it didnt display messages like ... click here to install
[19:43] <WannaBeHaCkeR> Help, I'm having problems while I trying to start pc with Live CD : BusyBox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7)Buit-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[19:43] <renato> how to config zope+apache on 7.10?
[19:43] <patrik> minus: have you a copy of the songird in /usr/bin ?
[19:43] <minus> hoarycripple, hod do I do that then
[19:43] <hoarycripple> minus, type the absolute path
[19:43] <BubblegumTate> Hangar: Do you have boot-camp installed
[19:43] <hoarycripple> minus, /usr/local/bin/songbird
[19:43] <WindowSmasher> WannaBeHacker: Try booting in safe graphics mode
[19:43] <EminX> confuzed: It didn't display messages like ... click here to install
[19:43] <minus> hoarycripple, thats what I don't want to do.
[19:44] <hoarycripple> minus, or export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
[19:44] <hangarninetysix> i havent, i'll try that
[19:44] <Alejandr0> Hello, update manager isnt working, what can i do to solve this?
[19:44] <minus> hoarycripple, how do I export that then?
[19:44] <BubblegumTate> I used boot-camp to install 7.04 on an intel iMac and it went fine
[19:44] <patrik> hoarycripple: /usr/local/bin should already be in the PATH
[19:44] <EminX> confuzed:  sorry now it's displayed
[19:44] <hoarycripple> minus, just type what I wrote above into the terminal
[19:44] <botondus> hi..i have a bit of annoying problem with multiple Desks: i have 2 Desks and when i move the mouse to the edge of the screen it switches over to the other Desk. I want it to switch only on mouse scroll or when i explicitly click on it. How can i disable this annoying little feature?
[19:44] <hangarninetysix> i dont have an intel mac, it should work, shouldn't it?
[19:44] <hangarninetysix> it's ppc
[19:44] <hoarycripple> minus, "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin"
[19:44] <StaticNova> U LINUX NUBS
[19:44] <minus> hoarycripple, thanks
[19:45] <minus> works like a sharm
[19:45] <minus> charm*
[19:45] <StaticNova> o.o
[19:45] <confuzed> EminX, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:45] <BubblegumTate> hangar: you downloaded the PPC iso yeah?
[19:45] <WannaBeHaCkeR> no, neither in safe graphics mode
[19:45] <StaticNova> some1 using bb4win here ?
[19:45] <Jeruvy> if there is no sound card on the machine, can you just remove ALSA?  Suggestions?
[19:45] <hangarninetysix> er... no. wow, im an idiot.
[19:45] <StaticNova> SO ?
[19:45] <BubblegumTate> hangar: hilarious
[19:45] <StaticNova> -.-
[19:46] <WannaBeHaCkeR> Help, I'm having problems while I trying to start pc with Live CD : BusyBox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7)Buit-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[19:46] <patrik> hoarycripple, minus: in a default ubuntu install /usr/local/bin is already in the $PATH variable
[19:46] <hoarycripple> minus, you'll need /usr/local/bin in your path permanently...search google for how to do that with your particular setup (i'm starting up using .xinitrc so my setup might be different).
[19:46] <hangarninetysix> Hmm, it doesn't have a ppc option
[19:46] <hangarninetysix> it has these : Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)   64bit AMD and Intel computers   Sun UltraSPARC based
[19:46] <hoarycripple> patrik, yes, but somehow it isn't for him...
[19:46] <EminX> confuzed: which one Adobe or Gnash ( and what's the difference)
[19:46] <hangarninetysix> do you know which one it would be perchance?
[19:46] <minus> hoarycripple, ok
[19:47] <WannaBeHaCkeR> Help, I'm having problems while I trying to start pc with Live CD : BusyBox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7)Buit-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[19:47] <minus> patrik, well... I haven't changed anything
[19:47] <milestone> hi all
[19:47] <milestone> i love the gutsy desktop
[19:47] <milestone> had to say that
[19:47] <neverblue> cool, good to hear
[19:47] <ettore> hi
[19:47] <Alejandr0> Hello, update manager isnt working, what can i do to solve this?
[19:47] <botondus> any idea how i can disable multiple desktop switching on mousemove to edge of screen?
[19:47] <neverblue> Alejandr0, whats the error?
[19:47] <milestone> now when i use compiz fusion my windows decorators are gone after the last upgrade
[19:47] <WannaBeHaCkeR> Help, I'm having problems while I trying to start pc with Live CD : BusyBox v.1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7)Buit-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[19:47] <milestone> does anyone know if anything changed?
[19:48] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: how is it not working?
[19:48] <Alejandr0> neverblue: i cant install programs by synaptic, theres an error message
[19:48] <EminX> what is Gnash
[19:48] <MilitantPotato> !pastebin | Alejandr0
[19:48] <ubotu> Alejandr0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:48] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: post the error there if ya can.
[19:49] <WannaBeHaCkeR> hey someone can help me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeE?
[19:49] <EminX> Gnash SWF player
[19:49] <patrik> minus: ok, but now it works :)
[19:49] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: ok, the error is in spanish though
[19:49] <hangarninetysix> does anyone know where to download the ppc version of ubuntu?
[19:49] <minus> patrik, yes :)
[19:49] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: I'll see if google translator can translate it
[19:49] <minus> patrik, thanks for the support
[19:49] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43045/
[19:49] <scragar> EminX: another form of flash player.
[19:49] <Davy_Jones> will skype for ubuntu 7.04 install and run fine on 7.10?
[19:50] <EminX> scragar: so which one to use
[19:51] <scragar> EminX: the official adobe one if possible
[19:51] <caner> i cant get gutsy to detect my usb devices. but if they are plugged before the machine boots up they can be detected. what is the command for scanning them??
[19:51] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: I can translate it if u want
[19:51] <EminX> scragar: ok, thanks
[19:51] <UbuntuPwns> lsusb
[19:51] <oood> hello - test
[19:51] <Benalex> can I ask a question please?
[19:51] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: I already did, no worries :)
 they cannot be seen by lsusb because the machine doesnt detect them
[19:52] <tobi_> Benalex: just do it
[19:52] <confuzed> EminX, sorry... was distracted... Adobe is the official, closed version... Gnash is an open source, but not necessarily complete clone
[19:52] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: try sudo  rmdir /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:52] <Wa1337> hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down.
[19:52] <UbuntuPwns> caner, oh ok, i thought you just wanted to see a list of your connected usb devices
[19:52] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: then sudo touch /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:52] <neverblue> !ask | Benalex
[19:52] <ubotu> Benalex: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:53] <EminX> confuzed:  so Adobe is better, right ?
[19:53] <BubblegumTate> Eminx: Only if to prefer functionality
[19:53] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down.
[19:53] <confuzed> EminX, if your using youtube... I would say yes
[19:54] <Benalex> this is the first time for me to use ubuntu, I know that each time i need to install some program, it has to be downloaded from the internet, which i don't have always, so i downloaded 4 iso dvd of the repositories, and I need to use them from the add/remove without burning them to discs, is there some way to do so?
[19:54] <Alejandr0> rMilitantPotato: it says that : mdir: /var/lib/dpkg/status: Is not a directory
[19:54] <EminX> confuzed:  thanks a lot
[19:54] <scragar> EminX: yes and no. since it's official it's more likly to work, however since it's closed source it's also more likly to contain bugs and be slightly slower.
[19:54] <CaptainMorgan> does Gutsy run with the new .23 Kernel ?
[19:54] <Squalish> On Synaptic... how precisely would one add the following repository:http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/gutsy/
[19:54] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: it says that : rmdir: /var/lib/dpkg/status: Is not a directory
[19:54] <confuzed> EminX, if you just want occasional support for flash... gnash is great... especially if your a Open Source NAZI
[19:54] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down.
[19:54] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: ok, I'll keep looking
[19:54] <EminX> scragar:  as a beginner I think it's better for me, :D
[19:54] <KillahB> whats an awm
[19:55] <EminX> confuzed: can I install both of them
[19:55] <scragar> KillahB: a fancy OSX style appearance
[19:55] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know ?
[19:55] <BubblegumTate> Eminx: That's true because as an expert, you'll despise functionality
[19:55] <Crystal> ho un problema con la connessione, uso ubuntu, mi cambiano improvvisamente i dns, come potrei risolvere?
[19:55] <KillahB> oh i thought thats what compiz wuz lolz..
[19:55] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down.
[19:55] <EminX> BubblegumTate: Im a beginner :(
[19:56] <BubblegumTate> Captain: this is the kernel I'm running 2.6.22-14-generic
[19:56] <Squalish> Can anyone help me with some entry-level Synaptic stuff?
[19:56] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: Are you running synaptic with root user privledges?
[19:57] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[19:57] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: no
[19:57] <scragar> Squalish: what do you need to know?
[19:57] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[19:57] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: you should, run synaptic with sudo synaptic
[19:57] <Squalish> scragar: I need to know how to add this repository: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/gutsy/ to synaptic
[19:58] <confuzed> EminX, I wouldn't... I always use the Adobe player... the only people I know that use gnash are people who are trying to go completely FOSS
[19:58] <bosworth> im running an exe in wine and the program seems to be running ok and it creates a tray icon, but it can't open a program window. Does anyone have any suggestions to what i should be looking at?
[19:58] <Squalish> scragar: I'm not sure what the "repository" field means when I enter it into software sources, and it throws me an error
[19:58] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: again the same error message
[19:58] <scragar> Squalish: settings>Repositories
[19:58] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[19:58] <tadah> Hello, i'm on failsafe mode now. When I try to logon GNOME session, I enter my login and password, the session starts loading, then the screen goes black and throws me back to the login screen. How could I fix it? I think it's after I've done some commands from: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring ; Thanks for any help!
[19:58] <scragar> Squalish: then under third party you can add URLs
[19:59] <DreamLiner> i have a problem with wireless, hp dv6000 bcm43xx. it shows that wireless adapter is working, but when i try to configure it, it starts showing up as disconnected. ifconfig shows the adapter as well as iwconfig. but my wireless accesspoint is not found. what do i do?
[19:59] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: are you trying to install update manager?
[19:59] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: if not, what are you trying to install?
[19:59] <Squalish> scragar: I've gotten that far... but it doesn't appear to work.
[19:59] <Testi> asdfgh
[19:59] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: i already did that
[19:59] <EminX> confuzed: can I install both of them
[19:59] <tobi_> how can I say ubunto not to start the glx but the normal xserver?
[19:59] <bosworth> tadah: are you reasonably ok with working from a command line?
[19:59] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down..
[19:59] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know why my system might not notify me of updates and systems upgrades ?
[19:59] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: Im trying to insall samba
[20:00] <scragar> Squalish: you have to click close on the smaller window, then click reload in the main one to get any changes
[20:00] <CaptainMorgan> did I hit a selection somewhere ?
[20:00] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[20:00] <Squalish> scragar: when I do that, it gives me errors and Synaptic crashes
[20:00] <EminX> confuzed: Or do you recommend to go with Gnash
[20:00] <confuzed> EminX, I wouldn't, I'd imagine that installing a second one would just uninstall the first.... I can't imagine that they are compatible
[20:00] <tadah> bosworth, well I think so
[20:00] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[20:00] <daef> where should i post gpl-violations??!?
[20:00] <scragar> Squalish: what repositiory did you add exactly?
[20:00] <EminX> confuzed: ok I understand, than I'll go with Gnash
[20:00] <daef> i found a huge one!
[20:00] <scragar> daef: tell the gnu site about it.
[20:01] <confuzed> EminX, I would use Adobe's... it's the official flash plug-in and will support all flash implementations... while you might have problems with Gnash
[20:01] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: What really makes me think this is totally screwed is the message that says that an impossible to fix problem has occured...
[20:01] <EminX> confuzed: ok thanks
[20:01] <Squalish> scragar: I got to "third party software", I click "add", I enter... what precisely? The repository is here: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.org/miro/linux/repositories/ubuntu/gutsy/
[20:01] <bosworth> if you press [ctrl]+[alt]+[1] you will get a text-only terminal. You will probably be able to log in and undo the last changes you made
[20:01] <bosworth> tadah: if you press [ctrl]+[alt]+[1] you will get a text-only terminal. You will probably be able to log in and undo the last changes you made
[20:01] <Makdaam> Hi, I've got a not so easy question: what does Ubuntu do through ACPI that can affect the keyboard? I mean like powersaving and stuff...
[20:01] <daef> about 1000-3000 devices sold using a dedicated 'non-commercial' licenced software - price per piece >5000$
[20:01] <Rusty_Ryan> Hey, I've got trouble with network/internet. Cannot connect to wireless networks or cable network. I am simply unable to connect to my router (no matter if DHCP or static). Can someone help me? It all worked fine with Xubuntu and Ubuntu 7.04 but the Gibbon doesn't do anything...
[20:01] <Squalish> scragar: Miro's site appears to have a typo on it when I enter it in, the slash between ubuntu and gutsy is turned into a space - and that wouldn't work either
[20:01] <hoarycripple> bosworth, that should be ctrl+alt+f1
[20:01] <daef> it's not a gpl license i read..
[20:02] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: yea i've read that from google also
[20:02] <daef> ...mbrola got it's own license
[20:02] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: do u think if i upgrade to gutsy, this problem might be solved?
[20:02] <orgthingy> i cant play mp3 files!
[20:02] <orgthingy> help?
[20:02] <bosworth> tadah: as hoarycripple says F1 instead. Typo ;-)
[20:02] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: Have you modifyed your sources list lately?
[20:02] <scragar> Squalish: where did you get the link?
[20:02] <vectalix> nobody has X300 SE ?
[20:03] <tadah> bosworth, PM?
[20:03] <Crazymethjesus> HUGE HOMOSEXUAL BALLS
[20:03] <UbuntuPwns> O.o
[20:03] <tadah> vectalix, i have x300se
[20:03] <Squalish> their site, and their devpage both have the link. On their site it appears that "repositories/ubuntu/gutsy/" turned into "repositories/ubuntu gutsy" - and it won't load in a webbrowser, while the one on their devsite with the slash will
[20:03] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[20:03] <vectalix> tadah,  you use compiz  ?
[20:04] <Squalish> scragar: I don't know if I'm supposed to add something after the address or have "Deb" before it or what
[20:04] <scragar> Squalish: the one with the space EXACTLY as it was written is what you put in
[20:04] <tadah> bosworth, ok, i know how to go to the text-only terminal. but what should i do there? i mean, how should i undo things?
[20:04] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: My xp sp2 became totally unstable from what i think was a hardware prob, then ubuntu began crashing and once i got a huge crash which reported lots of error messages, perhaps the configuration was changed there.
[20:04] <tadah> vectalix, still have problems with it... which i'm currently tryin to fix
[20:05] <vectalix> you use which technics for the moment ?
[20:05] <Wa1337>  hi can some1 help me to move my AWM? I want 2, 1 up, and 1 down. and i have only 1 bar down.
[20:05] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: Well, if it happend after a crash I'd suspect your install is corrupted
[20:05] <kelsin> Wa1337: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/FAQ says on there that you can't reposition it
[20:05] <bastid_raZor> i'm having issues with firefox playing mpg's..
[20:06] <Squalish> scragar: when I do that, synaptic doesn't crash, and doesn't throw me an error... but the latest 0.9.9.9-1 package isn't shown on the versions screen
[20:06] <Rusty_Ryan> does anyone know an article about commom dhcp problems with gusty?
[20:06] <Wa1337> :O
[20:06] <Squalish> scragar: while it is shown when I enter that into a webbrowser
[20:06] <bpat1434> Can the 32-bit and 64-bit JRE be installed side-by-side in Ubuntu?
[20:07] <bosworth> tadah: PM
[20:07] <scragar> Squalish: what is listed instead?
[20:07] <bosworth> im running an exe in wine and the program seems to be running ok and it creates a tray icon, but it can't open a program window. Does anyone have any suggestions to what i should be looking at?
[20:07] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: so i should reinstall feisty?
[20:07] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: yes, but make sure your hardware issues are fixed
[20:07] <pike_> bosworth: what app
[20:08] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: but ask someone else, I'd hate for you to reformat if you don't need to.
[20:08] <scragar> bpat1434: not from synaptic, but from the Java installers yes.
[20:08] <Squalish> scragar: the 0.9.9.1-rc1 which I downloaded manually previously onto my desktop, and the 0.9.8.1 that is in the Ubuntu add/remove programs list
[20:08] <bpat1434> scragar: thanks, that's what I needed
[20:08] <pike_> bosworth: with utorrent often i need to bring the window up then doubleclick on the tray icon for it to show or select hide/show by right clicking
[20:08] <vectalix> damn ATI X300 SE :(
[20:08] <Alejandr0> MilitantPotato: ok, u think im gonna post this on the ubuntuforums, ty.
[20:08] <Alejandr0> i think...
[20:08] <MilitantPotato> Alejandr0: sounds like a good plan, good luck
[20:09] <lekent> hola
[20:09] <pike_> bosworth: you might try virtual desktop or whatever it is when you run winecfg
[20:09] <tadah> bosworth, whether you don't reply my or i don't get your PMs. which case is it? :)
[20:09] <hoarycripple> Alejandr0, can you translate that error for me?
[20:09] <scragar> Squalish: rc1 = release candidate, it's a beta version. synaptic normaly only shows stable versions
[20:09] <Rictoo> What's the best GNOME cd/dvd burning application?
[20:09] <MtJB> a silly question, if i am going to build a machine to monitor network traffic, and have it sit between the modem cable and my home router, would i be better off to use the desktop or server version, or does it really matter?
[20:10] <scragar> Rictoo: k3b is good, but I would never define anything as best.
[20:10] <KillahB> Rictoo: i like brasero
[20:10] <Squalish> scragar: Yes, and 0.9.9.9-1 is supposed to be a stable vers
[20:10] <Rictoo> scragar: I said _gnome_
[20:10] <LjL> MtJB, they'll both do... i would get server
[20:10] <KillahB> rictoo:  brasero :)
[20:10] <MtJB> thanks, LjL
[20:10] <bosworth> tadah: I'm replying
[20:10] <Logixal> how do you load a usb drive
[20:10] <hetauma> Screebs and Graphins is used to set up just 2nd monitor or is it used also for Tv-out ?
[20:10] <Rictoo> KillahB: Is brasero better than gnomebaker
[20:10] <Rictoo> ?
[20:11] <bosworth> tadah: I'll post them here too. just a moment
[20:11] <kbrooks> good question: would you put a cable modem and router near each other on a desk
[20:11] <Rictoo> Logixal: it *should* automatically mount when you plug it in
[20:11] <KillahB> Rictoo:  not sure, never used anything else since brasero has done everything i need :/
[20:11] <Logixal> humm
[20:11] <Rictoo> if it doesn't, open a terminal window and type: sudo /etc/init.d/hald
[20:11] <Rictoo> tell me what it says
[20:11] <Drin> logixal, it should mount automatically. if not you'll need to "pmount" or "mount" it
[20:12] <Rictoo> Drin: The Ubuntu precompiled kernel has automounting enabled iirc
[20:12] <Rictoo> so do what I said above ^ :p
[20:12] <Logixal> i tried mount and i get mount: /dev/usb1 is not a block device
[20:12] <Logixal> ill try taking it out and back in
[20:12] <Rictoo> Logixal: (15:07:13) Rictoo: if it doesn't, open a terminal window and type: sudo /etc/init.d/hald
[20:12] <bosworth> tadah: http://pastebin.com/m603622c8
[20:12] <Rictoo> Tell me what it says
[20:13] <bosworth> pike_: i got the same with utorrent, but now it won't even bring up the empty window
[20:13] <Squalish> scragar: Any idea? It's not exactly a huge problem, I can just download the package, I'm just learning how these things work
[20:13] <dryrot> how do I get my window manager to work again after hibernation/suspend on my laptop ?
[20:13] <dryrot> im running compiz
[20:13] <masmota> dryrot:  do you have the compiz fusion tray icon installed?
[20:14] <mgk_> hello, my soundcard's drivers only exist for linux 64 bits; can i install them on my linux 32 bits ? Thanks ( sry i'm french :o )
[20:14] <jonathan__> im having printer problems is there a printer chat for ubuntu?
[20:14] <scragar> Squalish: none, in my experience the repository has always been spot on. If you don't need the latest version though always install the synaptic version, that way it's kept up to date easier.
[20:14] <dryrot> masmota: no.  should i?
[20:14] <Logixal> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb/ worked
[20:14] <neverblue> go ahead jonathan__ ask your question
[20:14] <masmota> dryrot:  it makes reloading wm easy
[20:14] <Rictoo> Logixal: If you ****ing did what I said, it would mount automatically
[20:14] <Rictoo> Don't ignore me :(
[20:14] <Squalish> scragar: thx
[20:15] <masmota> dryrot:  try this link http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/10/compiz-fusion-notification-area-icon.html
[20:15] <pike_> bosworth: thats odd. utorrent has always given me that problem but otherwise should work flawlessly. did the tray icon turn 'black' or anything?
[20:15] <dryrot> masmota: I have a different problem.  When I hibernate, and come back hibernation, I just see a big blank black screen, and a mouse pointer i can move around.  nothing i do brings back my windows.
[20:15] <superid> hi, I'm having a bit of trouble running m3u files in Ubuntu.. I've already set the behavior to run executable text files when opened, but when I double-click/press enter, nothing happens
[20:15] <jonathan__> i have a cannon pixma ip4000 and i dont think the drivers for gusty work properly because i get really transparent printouts (cant see anything)
[20:15] <Logixal> Rictoo I am thinking is doesnt like the front usb jacks so maybe it would have on boot worked
[20:15] <masmota> dryrot:  oh i see... /ignore me  :)
[20:15] <superid> (regardless of the application selected in the "Open with"  dialog)
[20:15] <pike_> bosworth: its not really a problem i guess just a difference with windows between win/lin
[20:15] <piratepenguin> anyone know how to get the 3rd gen ipod nanos work in ubuntu?
[20:16] <superid> the funny thing is it works fine when I right click and choose "Open with"
[20:16] <pike_> piratepenguin: everything up to 5.5 works fine for me
[20:16] <scrouaf> hi
[20:16] <Scunizi> can anyone check and see if they are having problems with positioning of flash content on Seiko's site at www.seikousa.com?  My FF displays only the right part of the page.  The remaining left part is off the screen on the left.
[20:16] <piratepenguin> pike_: 5.5? I mean the latest nano generation, I thought it was 3
[20:16] <bpat1434> anyone install the Zend IDE on Ubuntu successfully? I keep getting a jre/bin/java not found error
[20:16] <RvGaTe> anyone else having problems with skype and a headset... with only the left side of the headset working? (other apps work ok)
[20:17] <Logixal> Rictoo I should also mention I was using server version and I dont think hal was included
[20:17] <superid> Scunizi: same thing here, it partially loads on the left of the browser screen
[20:17] <scrouaf> I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on a friend's laptop. I cant figure how to boot the live-CD. I've get the menu, and then it freezes on "il freeze sur Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000"
[20:17] <bosworth> pike_: the tray icon is working with drop-down menu and all, and it's been working fine until now. but now it doesn't create a program window or a task bar icon, only tray icon
[20:17] <scrouaf> anyone could help ?
[20:17] <Zapt> does anybody know how i manage to save a picture out of openoffice externally??
[20:17] <bosworth> and i get an error when i run it manually
[20:17] <RvGaTe> bpat1434, install java ?
[20:17] <Scunizi> superid, thanks.. nice to know I'm not nuts.. or it being my dapper version.
[20:17] <Creedence> scrouaf, I had similar problems
[20:18] <bpat1434> RvGaTe: I installed the jre 6 update 3 via synaptic already
[20:18] <superid> Scunizi: no problem, but maybe we're both nuts
[20:18] <Creedence> scrouaf, turn out it was a corrupt CD, i re-dwonloaded and ok
[20:18] <superid> has anyone succesfully associated m3u files to a player in Gutsy?
[20:18] <greencookie> Hello room.
[20:18] <superid> (any player, any application)
[20:19] <scragar> superid: VLC
[20:19] <stiglett> greencookie: hy
[20:19] <scrouaf> Creedence, it's probably not that, cause we've tested like 5 CDs, including a knoppix and an old mandrake install cd
[20:19] <scrouaf> nothing boots
[20:19] <xtlosx> question guys, my fiancee just removed her mozilla firefox, now when she tries to reinstall apt-get install mozilla-firefox she gets this E: Couldn't find package mozilla-firefox
[20:19] <superid> scragar: and double-clicking will open it, no problem?
[20:19] <Scunizi> superid, musta been a windows flash programmer that did that site...:(
[20:19] <xtlosx> what is going on there
[20:19] <scragar> superid: just make sure they don't have execute permitions and they are generaly fine
[20:19] <Creedence> scrouaf, sorry, not sure then
[20:19] <greencookie> Can someone tell me how I can access my friend's shared folders on his laptop (we're connected to the internet via wireless router)
[20:19] <superid> hang on
[20:19] <bastid_raZor> xtlosx, try just firefox
[20:19] <xtlosx> I did
[20:19] <xtlosx> same error
[20:19] <demon_spork> I created a boot cd for Gutsy and then installed Vista. and now the boot cd doesn't work, it worked before installing vista and after installing XP thrice.  It keeps taking me to busybox and (initramfs)
[20:20] <xtlosx> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:20] <masmota> demon_spork:  you need to reinstall grub i think
[20:20] <bastid_raZor> xtlosx, in synaptic, the GUI tool, search for firefox. it'll give you the package name and ability to install
[20:20] <superid> wow, that did it
[20:20] <`cb> hmmm all SMB show up as BSOD in Leopard...
[20:20] <superid> scragar: thanks
[20:20] <masmota> demon_spork:  assuming u installed linux before windows?
[20:20] <greencookie> Does anyone know how to access shared folders on my laptop?
[20:20] <greencookie> From my desktop?
[20:20] <Veovi1> how are they shared?
[20:21] <superid> going to restart, something happened with the sound driver
[20:21] <greencookie> My laptop has XP, and i have Gutsy on desktop.
[20:21] <superid> thanks again
[20:21] <scragar> greencookie: places > connect to server?
[20:21] <xtlosx> I had her try that it won't let her do that either...
[20:21] <greencookie> Both are using a wireless connection to connect to internet.
[20:21] <demon_spork> masmota, yes, I need to reinstall grub, but I created a boot CD that is supposed to be booting me into my Ubuntu system so that I can install grub
[20:21] <hoarycripple> greencookie, samba
[20:21] <greencookie> previously when I had vista, I could just goto "My Network" and the laptop's shares would show up there.
[20:22] <greencookie> scragar, ok lemme try.
[20:22] <greencookie> hoarycripple, Thanks, I'll search for that:)
[20:22] <masmota> demon_spork:  the boot cd should always work, regaurdless of what os's are installed or not...check cd for defects and bios for boot from cdrom
[20:22] <bastid_raZor> xtlosx, you're in gutsy or fiesty?
[20:22] <xtlosx> gutsy
[20:22] <pike_> greencookie: this is pretty seamless in current ubuntu ive heard. never used samba much myself so no direct exp
[20:22] <xtlosx> i'm trying to help her over the phone
[20:22] <angie_sv> hello everybody!°!
[20:23] <greencookie> scragar, It says "unable to find workgroups....This might be caused by firewall"
[20:23] <demon_spork> greencookie, the easiest way to browse windows (samba) shares on the network from ubuntu is to install konqueror
[20:23]  * CaptainMorgan wonders if he's on ignore in the #Ubuntu chanell....
[20:23] <CaptainMorgan> wtf
[20:23] <greencookie> pike_, I'm trying to it.
[20:23] <angie_sv> I want to know a site to download beryl for ubuntu
[20:23] <greencookie> demon_spork, Will using dolphin make a difference?
[20:23] <Barbarello> I have an "Install the X development headers and try again." error. What's about this?
[20:23] <el-eternauta> hola, alguien sabe si se puede usar webcam con este programa?
[20:23] <bastid_raZor> xtlosx, i'm looking at synaptic now.. it shows it as being named firefox
[20:23] <ReL1K> hey guys, i had sirius working just fine with the mozilla-realplayer plugin, and for some reaosn, isn't working anymore, anyone know of a way to get sirius working in mozilla?
[20:23] <ikonia> Barbarello what ar eyou tring to do
[20:23] <xtlosx> yes i understand that, but for some reason she doesn't see that at all
[20:23] <xtlosx> whic his my question
[20:24] <Barbarello> ikonia: wine 0/48 set up
[20:24] <greencookie> !fr | el-eternauta
[20:24] <ubotu> el-eternauta: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:24] <demon_spork> greencookie, I haven't used dolphin, but I know that konqueror will install everything it needs to access windows shared files when you install it
[20:24] <ikonia> Barbarello: 0/48 ?
[20:24] <bastid_raZor> xtlosx, do you have all the repo's enabled?
[20:24] <xtlosx> look http://www.paste2.org/p/8972
[20:24] <xtlosx> yes
[20:24] <xtlosx> I do..'
[20:24] <mayeco> how to call to isla man in UK?
[20:24] <Barbarello> ikonia: 0.9.48, sorry
[20:24] <usrl> I'm trying to set up something that needs me to be able to use the CTRL+ALT+F# terminals, but when I switch to them my monitor says No Signal, which it normally only does if a resolution setting is off or the cable isn't plugged in. Any ideas?
[20:24] <bar666xp> hello i got a q? abut the ATI driver and 3D DESKTOP.. after install to the ATI driver from ATI web site can't get the 3D to work it say that "The Composite extension is not available" and BTW the OK on the message do not work one have to use the {X} close.
[20:24] <ikonia> Barbarello: ooh the version
[20:24] <CaptainMorgan> I updated my system, but I'm not receiving the "New Relase Available 7.10" notification...
[20:24] <Barbarello> ikonia: via ./wineinstall
[20:24] <demon_spork> greencookie, he was speaking spanish
[20:24] <Creedence> !sp | el-eternauta
[20:24] <ikonia> Barbarello: you do know that wine is in the ubuntu repo's
[20:24] <mayeco> 0044 - 01624- phone?
[20:24] <Creedence> !es | el-eternauta
[20:24] <greencookie> demon_spork, hehe I know, I just don't konw the ubotu code for that:)
[20:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:24] <ubotu> el-eternauta: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:24] <ikonia> mayeco: thats a uk number
[20:25] <xtlosx> all of the ubuntu software, updates, security, all of that is checked...
[20:25] <xtlosx> wtf is going on
[20:25] <Barbarello>  where's no 0.9.46! 47 only
[20:25] <piratepenguin> is there a dev package for libgpod for allowing the video nano to work?
[20:25] <ikonia> Barbarello: why do you need that specific version ?
[20:25] <greencookie> demon_spork, when using conquerer it tells me I might be behind firewall how do I disable this?
[20:25] <demon_spork> konqueror
[20:25] <Barbarello> not think so, but did download it already
[20:25] <greencookie> Konqeror*
[20:25] <Barbarello> traff, sir (
[20:25] <demon_spork> greencookie, are you using a clean ubuntu install?
[20:26] <ikonia> Barbarello: use the version in the repo, it will make life %150 easier
[20:26] <Barbarello> i know )
[20:26] <greencookie> demon_spork, straight off the live cd. I just installed kubuntu-desktop and some sound applications but thats about it.
[20:26] <bar666xp> i use UBUNTU 7.10 if one need to know
[20:26] <demon_spork> hmm
[20:26] <greencookie> bar666xp, welcome to the group.
[20:26] <Barbarello> i'm studing ) So, what that means, wouln't u tell me?
[20:26] <Barbarello> please!
[20:27] <ikonia> Barbarello: it means you have to install the x11 headers
[20:27] <greencookie> demon_spork, maybe you can suggest me an alternative here. I'm trying to back up my entire laptop data on my desktop, but I dont have an external hard drive. :)
[20:27] <Barbarello> what shalll i do for this?
[20:27] <ikonia> Barbarello: use the version of wine in the repo - thats what you should do
[20:27] <avgeneral> I need help with port forwarding
[20:27] <avgeneral> can someone PM me?
[20:28] <cua0> is there a fix or workaround for low signal strength wireless using broadcom cards in 7.10
[20:28] <ikonia> avgeneral: just ask your question in the channel
[20:28] <Barbarello> :D
[20:28] <avgeneral> k
[20:28] <Barbarello> cool
[20:28] <usrl> I'm trying to set up something that needs me to be able to use the CTRL+ALT+F# terminals, but when I switch to them my monitor says No Signal, which it normally only does if a resolution setting is off or the cable isn't plugged in. Any ideas? Even after it does that, I can CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to GDM without any problems. The terminal just doesn't show up.
[20:28] <demon_spork> greencookie, how much data do you want to back up?
[20:28] <bar666xp> can any one PM me with help for the problem i have?
[20:28] <ikonia> Barbarello: what is your problem
[20:28] <ikonia> oops
[20:28] <ikonia> sorry
[20:28] <ikonia> bar666xp: what is your problem
[20:29] <avgeneral> [question] I'm trying to set up my desktop as a web host. Apache2 is currently listening to port 1062 and I've forwarded my router from port 1062 to my computer: 192.168.1.2
[20:29] <Barbarello> too expensive and long (
[20:29] <scragar> bar666xp: say it here, that way anyone who can help can try to
[20:29] <ikonia> Barbarello: what is ?
[20:29] <bar666xp> i install the ATI driver for ATI site...
[20:29] <avgeneral> [problem] when i go to http://my-ip:1062 i can't access it
[20:29] <Barbarello> to download (
[20:29] <pike_> avgeneral: thats a statement :)
[20:29] <chazco> hi... since I upgraded (clean install) to 7.10 I have been unable to view certain webpages in Firefox... they appear to start to load but then seem to freeze... any ideas?
[20:29] <avgeneral> yea sry
[20:29] <usrl> chazco: what pages?
[20:29] <bar666xp> then the 3D DESKTOP don't work any more...
[20:29] <avgeneral> but that's my state...
[20:29] <ikonia> bar666xp: then your screwed
[20:29] <ikonia> oops
[20:29] <ikonia> sorry
[20:29] <avgeneral> question: why is it not working
[20:30] <bar666xp> cant get it back to normal even
[20:30] <usrl> chazco: could be firefox settings, network programs, or you're missing a plugin like flash
[20:30] <ikonia> Barbarello: then your screwed
[20:30] <chazco> usrl: an internal uni page for a start. Worked before the upgrade, and works from the 7.04 live cd
[20:30] <Barbarello> ive set conexant modem drivers, but it's just for 14.4 kbps
[20:30] <Barbarello> i am (
[20:30] <pike_> avgeneral: so if you do it locally it works right? localhost:1062 but not via internet
[20:30] <UbuntuPwns> avgeneral, have you tried http://localhost ?
[20:30] <avgeneral> yes
[20:30] <ikonia> Barbarello:yes as the X11 headers are almost as big
[20:30] <chazco> usrl: afaiks it doesnt use flash or anything, just plain html
[20:30] <bar666xp> get with no 3D efect no hmm how u call it bryle?
[20:30] <avgeneral> UbuntuPwns: yes and it's working
[20:30] <ikonia> avgeneral: your port forwarding isn't setup correctly or apache is set to listen on the wrong port
[20:30] <Barbarello> and they're included in repo's wine?
[20:31] <usrl> chazco: Do you have a copy of the .html? You could try opening it in firefox, it could be a problem with the webpage
[20:31] <avgeneral> i have them both set to 1062
[20:31] <ikonia> Barbarello: you don't need them to use the repo's wine
[20:31] <chazco> usrl: yep, can get it on my laptop... good idea, let me try it
[20:31] <bar666xp> hello i got a q? abut the ATI driver and 3D DESKTOP.. after install to the ATI driver from ATI web site can't get the 3D to work it say that "The Composite extension is not available" and BTW the OK on the message do not work one have to use the {X} close.
[20:31] <Barbarello> uff..
[20:31] <chazco> although it does work on the laptop in Firefox (same edition)...
[20:31] <Barbarello> thank u, ikonia!
[20:31] <pike_> bar666xp: should help a bit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[20:31] <avgeneral> it used to work, but when i installed some OSSH thing to get Remote Desktop to work over SSH tunnel, it stopped working
[20:31] <avgeneral> what's the program that lets me edit my firewall
[20:31] <chazco> usrl: It also fails in Opera etc
[20:32] <UbuntuPwns> firestarter
[20:32] <ikonia> avgeneral: vi
[20:32] <avgeneral> because I installed a software that does that but i forgot the name
[20:32] <avgeneral> alright
[20:32] <cua0> is there a fix or workaround for low signal strength wireless using broadcom cards in 7.10 ?
[20:32] <ferronica> anyone here using Photoprint application in ubuntu gusty gibbon ?
[20:32] <avgeneral> thx ill try that
[20:32] <bar666xp> will have a look TY pike
[20:32] <Benalex> I want some book that teaches ubuntu from A-Z, from beginners to professional, describing how to install programs , mount dvd images, tweak ubuntu performance, install drivers.... and this book should assume a zero linux knowledge readers
[20:33] <ikonia> Benalex: amazon.com - plenty on there, also ubuntu.com lots of docs
[20:33] <avgeneral> nope that wasn't it
[20:33] <masmota> benalex: or print out the ubuntu guide website
[20:33] <Benalex> can you name one book
[20:33] <avgeneral> it's a program that i used through the terminal
[20:33] <avgeneral> i changed the settings through a terminal program
[20:33] <ikonia> Benalex: read the reviews on amazon, its just peoples opinions
[20:34] <ferronica> I installed photoprint to enable me to easily print photos to A4 paper on my HP PSC1400.This printer is not in the list of supported printers for photoprint.
[20:34] <Zombie> Are any of you bug fix specialists?
[20:34] <raph> Is there any way to install the nvidia-glx-new package without the linux-restricted-drivers package?  I'm in a bind such that I can't have the built from source madwifi drivers and the linux-restricted-modules installed at the same time (but would like nvidia-glx-new for graphics performance)
[20:34] <riotkittie> Benalex: Linux for Dummies might fit that need. it covers a variety of distros including ubuntu. i havent really read it as page 1 made we want to fall asleep but
[20:34] <Aquilai> Is it just me or does ubuntu occasionally seem to hold down keypresses?
[20:34] <Benalex> masmota : what is the url of ubuntu guide website?
[20:34] <raph> I have tried the guide on disabling 'ath_hal' like said on madwifi's wiki, but it does not fix my problem
[20:34] <ikonia> raph: nvidia-glx is the restricted driver package
[20:34] <sethk> raph, no, can't be done AFAIK
[20:34] <critt> Anyone know how to stop grouping of similar windows using the Gnome desktop?
[20:35] <riotkittie> and Apress' Beginning Ubuntu Linux may be good as well
[20:35] <raph> ok, thanks guys
[20:35] <Aquilai> for example Ctrl+t (opening new tabs) created like a bazillion tabs opened
[20:35] <Aquilai> just happened a few times on separate occasions
[20:35] <suemeee> what's bazillion?
[20:35] <avgeneral> [question] what's the program that lets me access the firewall settings via terminal [PS] it has to be installed
[20:36] <djc3rb3r0> helo!
[20:36] <Aquilai> bazillion = a very large number
[20:36] <Ftroop> ipchains?
[20:36] <LjL> Aquilai: it's not just you... it happened to me twice. first with edgy, where *most* keypresses were repeated. now with gutsy, i've only experienced it with my "Menu" key (which i have now patched using xmodmap to never repeat)
[20:36] <avgeneral> no that's not it
[20:36] <Drin> avgeneral: iptables
[20:36] <avgeneral> no doens't ring a bell
[20:36] <Aquilai> LjL
[20:36] <wi11y> Bonjour
[20:36] <UbuntuPwns> avgeneral, firestarter is good
[20:36] <LjL> Aquilai: there's a bug report at https://launchpad.net/bugs/39315
[20:36] <Aquilai> are you using a laptop?
[20:37] <LORENA> zdr
[20:37] <LORENA> kako ste
[20:37] <avgeneral> will it let me uncheck ssh
[20:37] <wi11y> Is anyone experience serious problems w/ open office in gutsy?  Mine crashes whenever I try to insert a page break or import an image..
[20:37] <avgeneral> willy: haven't tried yet
[20:37] <Nyle> hi there
[20:37] <Nyle> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[20:37] <UbuntuPwns> avgeneral, you can disable/enable ssh ports with it
[20:37] <Nyle> what package do I need to install to remedy this?
[20:38] <avgeneral> k
[20:38] <usrl> ok, when I press CTRL+ALT+F1 to use the terminal there, it says "No Signal". I realize this is the inverse of the problem (normally it's xserver doing this, and you fix it there) most people have, but does anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[20:38] <chazco> ursl: it works from a saved copy...
[20:38] <Aquilai> LjL are you using a laptop?
[20:38] <critt> Anyone know how to stop the grouping of similar windows on the panel, using the Gnome desktop?
[20:38] <aQ> Can you recommend an advanced video/movie editing program for Linux (Ubuntu)?
[20:38] <ctgPi> My Ubuntu notebook has just shutdown suddently (I got a root wall saying "The system is going down NOW!" message), and when I opened it again, I noticed it was really hot
[20:39] <usrl> chazco: then maybe you should ask the web admin of the page.
[20:39] <thefoxx> hello is the owner of paste.pocoo.org online? (don't know the nick...)
[20:39] <usrl> critt: it should be in properties
[20:39] <LjL> Aquilai: no. there is a bug report (marked as a duplicate of the one i gave you) which specifically mentions a laptop, however: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37472 (Acer Travelmate)
[20:39] <ctgPi> Is there any system log that would have produced a message saying it was a thermal shutdown?
[20:39] <Bruno_> how can i boot from CD on a Mac
[20:39] <usrl> critt: yeah, on the bar left of the task things, right click it and go to preferences
[20:39] <chazco> usrl: i dont think theres anything wrong there... its only on this PC since installing 7.10
[20:39] <FiShYmAn> Bruno_: hold down the C key while starting
[20:39] <usrl> critt: then select what you want under Window Grouping
[20:39] <avgeneral> how do i uncheck ssh in firestarter?
[20:39] <jonathan__> im having printer problems is there a printer chat for ubuntu?
[20:40] <hipodilski> what wifi scanner to use on ubuntu?
[20:40] <hipodilski> some more interactive
[20:40] <LjL> jonathan__: no. there is just here.
[20:40] <hipodilski> I know kismet but I think kismet doesn't work with cards ran through ndiswrapper
[20:40] <Bruno_> FiShYmAn: i do, but when it boots, a folder with a finder icon and a ? flashing come up and nothing else happens. Afterwards OS X starts normally
[20:40] <avgeneral> [question] how do i uncheck ssh in firestarter?
[20:40] <james296> is it possible to use synaptic to search for games by genre?
[20:40] <jo0m> aQ, avidemux
[20:40] <pike_> hipodilski: i usually just iwlist ath0 scan or somesuch
[20:41] <critt> usrl: got it thanks. What a place to hide this LOL
[20:41] <pike_> hipodilski: there are several nice graphical ones though
[20:41] <Aquilai> LjL: Do you have XGL or Desktop Effects running
[20:41] <LjL> Aquilai: no
[20:41] <aQ> I've already tried it jo0m, but I need something advanced that I can make something really fancy in
[20:41] <hipodilski> pike_: yes sure but the laptop is for people who don't have computer education and linux education that's why it's better to use gui
[20:41] <bpat1434> Anyone use Zend IDE 5.5 in Ubuntu? I can't seem to get it installed.
[20:41] <usrl> critt: we all have those moments
[20:42] <jo0m> aQ, you mean like premiera
[20:42] <Aquilai> Well I just installed ubuntu gutsy today and have very few things installed as such it probably is an ubuntu bug
[20:42] <chazco> I may have to ditch Ubuntu if this cant be fixed :(
[20:42] <aQ> jo0m, I'll check it out
[20:42] <aQ> Thank you
[20:42] <Aquilai> Is your keyboard language British UK?
[20:42] <LjL> Aquilai: i agree. it was marked as fixed in the 2.6.15 kernel, but i think it might not be. no, i'm using swedish.
[20:42] <critt> usrl: I would think it would be easier to find though. Like right clicking on a blank space of the panel to get to the Prefs.
[20:42] <jo0m> aQ, no, that's for windows
[20:42] <aQ> Ook
[20:42] <Bruno_> FiShYmAn: What can i do to boot from cd?
[20:42] <critt>  Thanks a bunch
[20:43] <jo0m> aQ, check this out: cinelerra
[20:43] <usrl> critt: the panel is the panel, you put things on the panel. So everything on the panel has it's own settings and such
[20:43] <Aquilai> Practically no similarities then except ubuntu
[20:43]  * Emperor narka ludzie
[20:43] <LjL> Aquilai: not even that, i'm on kubuntu ;)
[20:43] <dopefish124> Hello?
[20:43] <Aquilai> lol
[20:43] <LjL> Aquilai: however, as i said, it really only seems to happen with the Menu key on this kernel, which is kind of weird
[20:43] <nixn00b> how do i kill an X session on a particular display?
[20:44] <Aquilai> LjL anything I can paste down to provide more information in the bug report?
[20:44] <usrl> So nobody has an idea of what I can do to get the terminal working? ><
[20:44] <zombi-> ive just installed ccsm but none of the settings are taking effect
[20:44] <hipodilski> someobdy to recomend a nice gui
[20:44] <zombi-> anyone know why?
[20:44] <hipodilski> for wifi?
[20:45] <critt> alrighty clicky then .. Thanks :-/
[20:45] <Dante123> hi all.  I added a graphics card and on the first boot I got a configuration screen I had never seen before.  Anyway, I selected what I thought was the right graphics card.  However, I could only get 800 x 600 resolution once I logged in.  Is there a way to "reset" the card I chose?  How do I get back to that configuration screen?
[20:45] <hoarycripple> hipodilski, wifi-radar is pretty good
[20:45] <nixn00b> Dante123, what graphics card?
[20:45] <riotkittie> Dante123: probably System > Administration > Screens and Graphics or something like that. though you may...
[20:45] <hipodilski> hoarycripple: does it support to connect to hosts?
[20:45] <LjL> Aquilai: not sure. check your /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages for, say, any IRQ problems or other suspicious things, though. perhaps you should almost mention in the report that the symptoms look similar to those of bug #39315 (if they indeed are). perhaps you should also see if you can reproduce the behavior from a live CD. try also passing "noapic" and/or "nolapic" and/or "noacpi" and/or "acpi=off" as kernel parameters, and see if the problem persists.
[20:45] <LjL>  report all that in the bug report.
[20:46] <Dante123> cheap ndvidia geforce mx4000
[20:46] <riotkittie> be better off doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:46] <hoarycripple> hipodilski, yes
[20:46] <nixn00b> Dante123, you need to enable the driver in restricted manager
[20:46] <PirateHead> I'm trying to to compile Hello World in C using gcc and I'm getting a "error: stdio: no such file or directory" -- how do I make the compiler recognize libraries like stdio?
[20:46] <hipodilski> actually it's needed that it's simple for example it refreshes the list all the time and when it finds open network connects?
[20:46] <hoarycripple> PirateHead, you need to install the libc6 dev packages
[20:46] <LjL> PirateHead, if it's pure C and not C++, you need to #include <stdio.h> - the ".h" counts
[20:46] <Aquilai> This is where I wish I had stickies in linux
[20:46] <Aquilai> to note everything down
[20:47] <james296> what does everyone think of the Gimmie menu for the panel?
[20:47] <PirateHead> LjL: I am using the .h
[20:47] <LjL> Aquilai: uhm, you do... it's an applet you can add to the GNOME panel, i'm sure, although i use kde
[20:47] <hipodilski> hoarycripple: is that the best one
[20:47] <Aquilai> Anyone know a ubuntu/linux version of Stickies (Windows sticky notes program)
[20:47] <Dante123> nixn00b I did use the proprietary driver. and it "seems" to work although it kicks me out of full screen when playing netpanzer once in a while.
[20:47] <hoarycripple> PirateHead, see my comment above
[20:47] <SoulSeeker> how to mout hdd if it is connected to my pc on VIA VT6421 ide raid controler ?
[20:47] <LjL> PirateHead: then "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[20:47] <smoenux> Aquila .... Tomboy
[20:47] <Drin> aquilai, gdesklets has them
[20:47] <nixn00b> Dante123, so i dont understand what you problemis then?
[20:47] <PirateHead> hoarycripple, LjL: build-essential and libc6 are both installed and updated to the latest version
[20:48] <riotkittie> what does Stickies do exactly/
[20:48] <smoenux> Aquila: Tomboy is the best :) ... you can even link notes to each other ets.
[20:48] <Dante123> riotkittie thanks...screen and graphics is the place
[20:48] <smoenux> Aquilai: Tomboy is the best :) ... you can even link notes to each other ets.
[20:48] <Aquilai> kk I'm looking into it right now
[20:48] <LjL> PirateHead, can you pastebin the whole command and its output, assuming it's longer than just that error line?
[20:48]  * UbuntuPwns loves Tomboy notes
[20:48] <smoenux> Aquilai: if you are running ubuntu... just add it to your panel
[20:49] <hoarycripple> hipodilski, i haven't used anything else, so I can't really comment
[20:49] <hoarycripple> PirateHead, strange, does locate find the file?
[20:49] <Maczimus> Anybody know if they are going to upgrade the ATI drivers to the newest version that supports AIGLX? or are they waiting for 8.04?
[20:50] <LjL> Maczimus: most likely the latter.
[20:50] <chelooxxx> hy guys...
[20:50] <PirateHead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43048/
[20:50] <karim_> hello
[20:50] <PirateHead> hoary: does locate find what fileA?
[20:50] <Dante123> well nixn00b the login screen resolution kind of poor (fonts dispay poorly) once you login it seems to kick in with proprietary driver but like I said sometime s when playing netpanzer in full screen it kicks me out to a window screen for no apparent reason.  I was wondering if misassigning the graphics card the first time....then using proprietary driver mangled a config file or something.  Maybe I just worry too much.
[20:50] <LjL> PirateHead, there is a space between the "<" and "stdio"
[20:50] <hoarycripple> PirateHead, stdio.h
[20:50] <PirateHead> LjL: oh, I took that for granted.
[20:50] <chelooxxx> i`ve red somewhere that the security on ubuntu is very high
[20:51] <PirateHead> gcc picky about whitespace, eh?
[20:51] <karim_> I install ubuntu gutsy on a powerpc G3, and the install stays blocked at 82%, the installer wants to acces a realease file with apt on a mirror but says it can't. THe problem is that I can't cancel this stage
[20:51] <LjL> PirateHead: of course. it'll look for a file called " stdio.h" -- nothing would prevent one from existing
[20:51] <chelooxxx> can u give me a link with this subjecT?
[20:51] <Aquilai> Ah I see! It's already installed
[20:51] <PirateHead> Ahh, now it works.
[20:51] <PirateHead> At least it wasn't anything wierd and complicated!!!
[20:51] <karim_> help
[20:51] <PurpZeY> I hear that one of Guty's benefits is better battery management, how much better is it? And if I upgrade and all goes well, do my gnome settings, e.g. wallpaper, themes, docks, panel setups, get reset?
[20:51] <LjL> Aquilai: err yes, that was the point :P you just need to add it to the panel. right click, add applet, etc
[20:51] <hoarycripple> LjL, haha, yeah i was going to comment about the whitespace...good call
[20:52] <james296> what does everyone think of the Gimmie menu for the panel?
[20:52] <Dante123>  well nixn00b the login screen resolution kind of poor (fonts dispay poorly) once you login it seems to kick in with proprietary driver but like I said sometime s when playing netpanzer in full screen it kicks me out to a window screen for no apparent reason.  I was wondering if misassigning the graphics card the first time....then using proprietary driver mangled a config file or something.  Maybe I just worry too much.
[20:52] <PirateHead> I'm just a C n00b -- brought up on Logo, Python, and Lisp, where whitespace isn't such a big deal. =D
[20:52] <Aquilai> lol
[20:52] <soundray> james296: that's not a support question. Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:52] <spriizha> hello people
[20:52] <spriizha> can someboady help with ubuntu 7.10 ?
[20:53] <LjL> !helpme
[20:53] <spriizha> my sound card is not propobly working
[20:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:53] <PurpZeY> spriizha: Ask and find out
[20:53] <soundray> !sound > spriizha, please read ubotu's private message
[20:53] <Aquilai> Wow pretty neat program (aside from the name lol)
[20:54] <MettleDk> Hi
[20:54] <PurpZeY> Anyone on my basic question? How much better is battery control on Gutsy and if I upgrade and it goes properly do I lose my current gnome settings?
[20:54] <MettleDk> Has anyone had success with jingle?
[20:54] <Bruno_> is there a gparted equivalent for ppc procesors?
[20:54] <MettleDk> Phone over ip?
[20:54] <MettleDk> (Or VoIP - as it's called)
[20:54] <Aquilai> PurpZeY: your gnome settings if saved on a /home partition will stay
[20:54] <soundray> PurpZeY: it's better to ask one question at a time.
[20:54] <corte123> anyone running thinkpad x60 with ubuntu?
[20:54] <PurpZeY> Ok.
[20:55] <Aquilai> (most of the settings anyway)
[20:55] <spriizha> i just plug in my headphone in my laptop but the osund still come in laptpop. i got x64 ubuntu monkey ^^ :(
[20:55] <bo> its my first time here: youre talking bout computers?
[20:55] <PurpZeY> How significant is the battery control difference from feisty to Gutsy?
[20:55] <soundray> PurpZeY: you can upgrade without losing your current settings (whether you have a home partition or not)
[20:55] <ReL1K> ive been listening to sirius through mozilla for awhile now, just mysteriously stopped working today, anyone got any ideas?
[20:55] <Bruno_> is there a gparted equivalent for ppc procesors?
[20:55] <pike_> MettleDk: is that a usb phone?  most phones that are usb are basically just a mic and speaker and work fine with most sip clients like ekiga.. openwengo looks interesting too
[20:55] <LjL> !#ubuntu | bo
[20:55] <ubotu> bo: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <spriizha> I just yesterdey putted on ubuntu and now want to wach some movie
[20:56] <MettleDk> no - no HW - (except mic and headphones=
[20:56] <MettleDk> )
[20:56] <spriizha> but cant put sound
[20:56] <soundray> PurpZeY: I don't *think* you will notice much of a difference. I think the next release will be a bigger step in that respect
[20:56] <Bruno_> is there a gparted equivalent for ppc procesors?
[20:56] <spriizha> to my audio system
[20:56] <MettleDk> But I want my mom to be able to call me via jabber
[20:56] <PirateHead> bo: welcome to the channel. We talk about computer, the Ubuntu operating system, various computer programs, and other topics as we see fit. :-)
[20:56] <hipodilski> actually it's needed that it's simple for example it refreshes the list all the time and when it finds open network connects?
[20:57] <jimjackson> What can I use to join mpg/avi/wmv files together ??
[20:57] <MattJ100> MettleDk: There are a few clients supporting Jingle
[20:57] <MattJ100> MettleDk: A while since I used it, but there is one called Jabbin
[20:57] <PurpZeY> soundray: Yeah...leads me to believe sticking with feisty is still the way to go
[20:58] <MettleDk> MattJ100: Hm... I think I tried Jabbin - but it only supported the text-thing. Not voice
[20:58] <MattJ100> MettleDk: No, it definitely supports voice
[20:58] <PirateHead> jimjackson: try Audacity
[20:58] <bo>  ok thx
[20:58] <tadah> Hello, i'm on failsafe mode now and everything's cool here, but when I try to logon GNOME session, I enter my login and password, the session starts loading, then the screen goes black and throws me back to the login screen. How could I fix it? I think it's after I've done some commands of aticonfig from: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring ; Thanks for any help!
[20:58] <soundray> PurpZeY: if you do a solid backup first, there's no harm in upgrading to gutsy. My prediction is that you will stick with it once you've upgraded :)
[20:58] <usrl> When I try to switch to a terminal session with CTRL+ALT+F1-6, my monitor says "no signal". Does anyone have an idea what I can do to fix this? I think I remember seeing a tut once to resize the terminal, anyone know where that is so I could try it?
[20:58] <PurpZeY> tadah: Sounds like you might need dpkg reconfig
[20:58] <PirateHead> jimjackson: you can import various audio streams and then export them as a single audio stream after manipulating them
[20:59] <MettleDk> Hm... I'll give Jabbin another go
[20:59] <MettleDk> thanks
[20:59] <Pancakes> In order for me to get awn to work, I have to go in the terminal and type avant-window-navigator. But if I close that terminal awn stops working, how do I fix this?:/
[20:59] <PurpZeY> soundray: Yeah..I mean, it's just, this is my school computer and I'm in law school if it gets foobarred in anyway I am totally SOL....So it's scary to think it might
[20:59] <bo> no place to talk about politics fe
[20:59] <jimjackson> I want to join video files together... like I have so many youtube clips converted to mpg/avi.. how can I do this ??
[20:59] <soundray> PurpZeY: like I say, backup...
[20:59] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: this happens because you are running it within another command, the terminal. to avoid this, try alt-f2 and type that in there
[21:00] <PurpZeY> soundray: Backup just homedir? you'd suggest?
[21:00] <NSM> Pancakes: avant-window-navagator &
[21:00] <soundray> tadah: have you installed xserver-xgl by any chance?
[21:00] <tadah> soundray, yes
[21:00] <MattJ100> bo: Type: /join #politics
[21:00] <soundray> PurpZeY: no, I mean everything. So you can go back to feisty without any quibbles, if need be.
[21:01] <PurpZeY> soundray: How would I go about back up my whole hd?
[21:01] <usrl> Come on, I know at least one of you knows where I can find a tutorial on changing the size of a terminal session =/
[21:01] <PirateHead> jimjackson: aah, you're talking about a video editor, not an audio one
[21:01] <MattJ100> bo: This is IRC, there are many rooms. This one is only about Ubuntu support
[21:01] <Pancakes> NSM, I type that in the terminal?
[21:01] <NSM> Pancakes: forget mine, reread and I was wrong.
[21:01] <jimjackson> yes
[21:02] <marc_> is thErE an iso Extractor for ubuntu?
[21:02] <soundray> tadah: in failsafe, try a 'mkdir -p ~/.config/xserver-xgl ; touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable'. Then log into normal gnome
[21:02] <lasse> I installed an alternate flash-codec/player for firefox - but it doesnt seem to work as well as the org. one - how do i change back to the other one ?
[21:02] <PirateHead> jimjackson: check out PiTiVi -- it's in the universe repository, I think
[21:02] <masmota> jimjackson:  not sure of any programs but maybe try >  cat file1 file2 file3 >joinedfile
[21:02] <jimjackson> marc_: yup.. can use acetoneiso2
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> marc_: Try right-clicking the iso
[21:02] <proprietarysucks> marc_: you don't need an iso 'extractor' in linux
[21:02] <Pancakes> proprietarysucks, if I type it from Alt+F2 it just says the file can't be located. What should I type exactly in it?
[21:02] <jimjackson> PirateHead: thanks
[21:02] <NSM> Pancakes: if you do put an & it will allow you to continue using the same terminal but if you close it your program will close too.  Misread what you were asking.
[21:02] <PirateHead> masmota: wouldn't work for video files of different formats =D
[21:02] <jimjackson> masmota: thanks I will try this
[21:02] <MattJ100> marc_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=426365
[21:02] <masmota> oh i see, not with diff formats it wont :/
[21:03] <gb_1> hello
[21:03] <soundray> PurpZeY: you could install sbackup and make normal backups to, e.g., an external disk. Alternatively, boot from a live CD, install partimage and make image backups of your ext3 partitions.
[21:03] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: specify the file's path such as /usr/bin/file-start
[21:03] <chazco> Still not fixed it... can anyone point me to a list of network related changes between 7.04 and 7.10?
[21:03] <Yodude> hey i need help, i need to find you what are the packages that i need for dialup modem support
[21:03] <PIPBoy> can anyone help me with printer problems?
[21:03] <gb_1> question L what is the main difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop?
[21:03] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: to find this path if you don't know it, in terminal do      cd / ; sudo find -name myfile
[21:03] <gb_1> Yodude:  they r already in ubuntu
[21:04] <masmota> Can Thumbs.db generation be disabled without turning off thumbnails completely?
[21:04] <soundray> Yodude: for standard serial modems, you don't need anything in particular.
[21:04] <Yodude> gb_1: one if for daily use, like web browsing email and chatting
[21:04] <PurpZeY> soundray: How many disks you figure for a total back up ?
[21:04] <Logixal> whats the = to rc.local in /etc?
[21:04] <proprietarysucks> gb_1: the server edition doesn't have a gui and other crap like that
[21:04] <soundray> PurpZeY: what, floppies?
[21:04] <gb_1> proprietarysucks: ok ty does it have any extra security ?
[21:04] <sublime> what's the best program to burn iso's for linux?
[21:04] <Yodude> soundary: no u don't understand, i need the packages to be available on hand, because the system where i'm gonna install ubuntu ONLY has dialup internet
[21:04] <soundray> !burniso | sublime
[21:04] <ubotu> sublime: To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:05] <masmota> sublime:  brasero for all your burning needs :)
[21:05] <proprietarysucks> sublime: k3b
[21:05] <dn4> how fast does usb 1.0 send @? 12Mbit/second ?
[21:05] <Yodude> soundary: and thus he can't use the restricted manageer to download even more packages
[21:05] <ReL1K> ive been listening to sirius through mozilla for awhile now, just mysteriously stopped working today, anyone got any ideas?
[21:05] <sublime> lol i just got like 80 people with 40 different answers
[21:05] <angie_sv> hey tengo instalado beryl, pero como soy nueva no se como puedo hacerlo trabajar!
[21:05] <masmota> thats because linux rocks
[21:05] <angie_sv> alguien puede ayudarme
[21:05] <Yodude> sooundary: so i need to download them on this PC then move them to thye apt-cache on that system
[21:05] <PurpZeY> soundray: No no, CDs, or possibly DVDs
[21:05] <proprietarysucks> k3b is the best and easiest burning software, similar to nero but without all the stupid extras
[21:05] <soundray> Yodude: if that system has a standard serial modem, you don't need anything other than what comes on the regular install CD.
[21:05] <Yodude> soundary: you understand the situation ?
[21:06] <Yodude> soundary: no it's a winmodem
[21:06] <soundray> Yodude: please use my correct nick, and don't tell me I don't understand.
[21:06] <s00p> I just shot a co worker with 20 Nerf darts from a fully automatic weapon!
[21:06] <Pancakes> Thanks proprietarysucks
[21:06] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: working now yes?
[21:06] <Pancakes> Yup
[21:06] <sublime> whoever said k3b won
[21:06] <sublime> lol
[21:06] <soundray> Yodude: get a serial modem and a USB-serial adapter, if necessary. Everything else is a pain. Don't rely on a winmodem.
[21:06] <Yodude> soundary: sorry i wasn't trying to say you didn't understnad, i was just hecking that you understood my situation ( no offense ) ?
[21:06] <s00p> those winmodems are horrible
[21:07] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: remember you can make a link to it so you can just click one link
[21:07] <PIPBoy> can anyone help me with printer problems?
[21:07] <Pancakes> proprietarysucks, how would I go about making my icons on the desktop smaller?
[21:07] <s00p> Pancakes: open nautilus and click preferences
[21:07] <Yodude> soundary: the problem is that it's not my Pc, it's my friend's PC, and he wants to try Ubuntu, but cannot if it won't connedct to the internet
[21:07] <soundray> PurpZeY: try df -h, it should show you how much space your system occupies
[21:07] <gb_1> 1 more question regarding ubuntu server
[21:07] <s00p> Edit > Preferences
[21:07] <proprietarysucks> PIPBoy: try going to http://localhost:631                     FIRST!
[21:07] <gb_1> can i install a gui on it?
[21:07] <Yodude> soundray: sorry for the incorrect nick:
[21:08] <proprietarysucks> gb_1: yes you can
[21:08] <critt> Speaking of Mozilla Firefox. Anyone know why some pages I view say "no video" in the video box? And there are also  no controls in the video box.
[21:08] <spriizha> hei is then here someboady who can help with audio? just want to plug in my headpohone, but sound dont swich there, its keeping in my lapoptop :((
[21:08] <gb_1> ok awesome
[21:08] <SeanTater> gb_1: just install ubuntu-dekstop or kubuntu-desktop to get one
[21:08] <proprietarysucks> gb_1: it's basically just a stripped down ubuntu but you _can_ still install *anything* you normall could on it
[21:08] <gb_1> so what is extra in it?
[21:08] <PurpZeY> soundray: 3-4 gig...So in terms of CDs I am looking at a decent amount, if I can go DVD route then 1....And then how would I go back to "ghosting it" will the LiveCD let me just re-image it back?
[21:08] <gb_1> it is a big file :)
[21:08] <soundray> Yodude: my advice is: don't rely on a winmodem. Your friend will only get frustrated. And probably you will, too. Find an old serial modem, it's not difficult
[21:09] <Yodude> soundray: i just need to know the packages that the winmodem scasnner in the restriced manager fetches, so that i can download them and move them there, so that he can install them
[21:09] <gryfie__> sphrizza: use the comandline, start alsamixer (if you use alsa) and try if you find volumes for headphone
[21:09] <gryfie__> turn on pcm etc
[21:09] <nico8481> hello
[21:09] <Pancakes> s00p, where's nautilus?
[21:09] <tadah> soundray, didn't help :/
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: If you're looking for a small ISO to get ubuntu, try the mini.iso
[21:09] <s00p> the file explorer
[21:09] <proprietarysucks> <---taking newb questions concerning linux for the next hour or so
[21:09] <gb_1> ok ty odd
[21:09] <s00p> proprietarysucks: you are a better man than I am
[21:10] <soundray> PurpZeY: you can use partimage to restore the partition images as well. Remember, you will need two CD drives to run a live CD and burn at the same time.
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: Do you need the link?
[21:10]  * SeanTater watches billions of newbies flood proprietarysucks
[21:10] <Yodude> soundary: i wish i could. but he would not go into all that trouble just to try linux, but if ubuntu correctly deals with his exsiting modem then he will definity;l use it i think
[21:10] <gb_1> Odd-rationale:  i'm on buntu site now
[21:10] <Yodude> soundray: i have tried to solve the problem b4
[21:10] <PurpZeY> soundray: Egh....That is an impossibility...I have on the one drive
[21:10] <Yodude> soundray: went to install winmodem software and oh man o man i got tired of it, i know what you mean when u say avoid winmodems
[21:10] <gb_1> my only concern was my data
[21:11] <dn4> how do I calculate how long it will take to transfer 32gb @ 12mbit/second
[21:11] <soundray> Yodude: some, but nowhere near all winmodems are supported by the sl-modem-daemon package
[21:11] <gb_1> will it upgrade my current ubuntu?
[21:11] <proprietarysucks> dn4: with simple arithmetic
[21:11] <Logixal> whats that plugin for ubuntu that makes you smarter I need the new version asap
[21:11] <gb_1> dn4: get a calculator :P
[21:11] <critt> Is there a help chat for mozilla ??
[21:11] <magic_dream> t
[21:11] <nico8481> anyone managed to sync a treo with ubuntu via bluetooth? i followed the instructions on http://elijah.pinoguin.com/blog/blog-view/article/sync-treo-650-on-ubuntu-linux.html (though i'm using a 680 and not a 650 but i guess it should be the same) and the palm tells me Error:Serial: (0x030B) ... anyone can help?
[21:11] <dn4> does 32gb = 32000000mb?
[21:11] <soundray> tadah: but the file creation was successful? ls -l ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable
[21:11] <Yodude> soundray: do you know of any other packages that ubuntu fetches for winmodem support ?
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: Here it is:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD It is less than 10MB. After you install it. you can install all the rest of the packages you want.
[21:11] <s00p> proprietarysucks: what was your first computer?
[21:11] <gb_1> my bluetooth worked with buntu
[21:11] <Abuh> dn4: a gig is 1024mb
[21:12] <SeanTater> dn4: technically 32GB = 32*(2**30) bytes
[21:12] <tadah> soundray, yes, well i didn't get no errors
[21:12] <gb_1> Odd-rationale:  ty , u rock !!
[21:12] <proprietarysucks> s00p: pentium 75 / 8mb ram / 800mb hard drive... but I started way before I got that
[21:12] <nico8481> dn4, yeah but did you manage to sync a palm over it?
[21:12] <s00p> proprietarysucks: what did you start on?
[21:12] <SeanTater> dn4: 45 minutes, 30 seconds
[21:12] <soundray> Yodude: no, but I generally follow my own advice and save myself the heartache of trying to get winmodems to do anything useful.
[21:12] <nico8481> oops
[21:13] <SeanTater> dn4: that's the eta
[21:13] <nico8481> gb_1, yeah but did you manage to sync a palm over it?
[21:13] <proprietarysucks> 286 a little but mainly 386sx and then dx
[21:13] <gb_1> Odd-rationale: 1 more question :-D
[21:13] <gb_1> nico nada
[21:13] <s00p> proprietarysucks: TRS80 model1 here... then a C64
[21:13] <SeanTater> dn4: however -- let me adjust
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: ?
[21:13] <soundray> PurpZeY: you can store the images on a partition that you're not imaging at that moment.
[21:13] <proprietarysucks> see you are a better man
[21:13] <Pancakes> s00p, where do I go exactly to open nautilus?:/
[21:13] <tadah> soundray, when i logged onto the normal gnome session, i got a message, which i could read, because now somehow my graphical center is on the right edge, so i've seen only about the half of the message.
[21:13] <gb_1> odd will it upgrade my current ubuntu or would fresh install?
[21:13] <teuz> ciao a tutti io ho un probelma con la mia scheda wifi: io ho il un file con il firmware che devo caricare tramite la gui del restricted driver come faccia a farglielo caricare in auto senza ogni volta andare in restricted driver e farglielo caricare a mano grazie
[21:13] <Yodude> soudray: you
[21:13] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: alt-f2 type in nautilus
[21:13] <Yodude> soundray: you're right, hehe i hate them too
[21:13] <s00p> pancakes are you in GNOME or KDE?
[21:13] <masmota> teuz:  eh?
[21:13] <proprietarysucks> doesn't matter my way works in both
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: It is a fresh install. There is a mini.iso of gutsy
[21:14] <NSM> Yodude: linmodems.org may help also.
[21:14] <critt> Anyone any good with Firefox problems??
[21:14] <teuz> masmota,  hehehehho scritto male?
[21:14] <gb_1> aaw :(
[21:14] <SeanTater> dn4: oops -- that would be 12 days at 12mbit
[21:14] <PurpZeY> soundray: Yes. I imagine I could that...I have 60 g I think...
[21:14] <usrl> ok, I tried setting my menu.lst to "vga=normal", and my monitor still goes NO SIGNAL when I CTRL+ALT+F1 =/ I've tried just about everything I can think of, and google is no help.
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: What are you trying to do?
[21:14] <gnuskool> critt: whats the problem
[21:14] <proprietarysucks> critt: I'm guessing all those people sitting in #firefox are
[21:14] <dn4> SeanTater, that sounds about right
[21:14] <Pancakes> GNOME
[21:14] <gb_1> i have made a server , worked hard on it,
[21:14] <soundray> tadah: did you have this trouble from the beginning, or did you do something to mess it up like that?
[21:15] <gb_1> dont want fresh install :(
[21:15] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: alt-f2   type in nautilus press enter
[21:15] <SeanTater> dn4: or about 15, and you have to calculate overhead, so it's closer to 18
[21:15] <mcquaid> ok i only recently upgraded to gutsy and I'm noticing this the last few days.  In gmail using ff, sometimes while typing an email it slows down my typing to a crawl
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: And you want to upgrade to Gutsy?
[21:15] <Pancakes> Yeah I did. And where's preferences?
[21:15] <mcquaid> but yet the system remains responsive everywhere else
[21:15] <mcquaid> anyone have this issue?
[21:15] <gb_1> yes odd
[21:15] <gb_1> MMon edgy now
[21:15] <s00p> Pancakes: nautilus is your file browser.
[21:15] <critt> Propritarysucks: I did ask earlier with no answer if there was a chat for firefox help . Thanks
[21:16] <SeanTater> dn4: the formula: ((32*(2**30))/(12*(2**20))*8)/60/24
[21:16] <gnuskool> oin/join ubuntu off-topic
[21:16] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: I'd do a fresh install if i were you! :)
[21:16] <critt> Not a irc wiz yet sorry
[21:16] <tadah> soundray, no, i just got it few hours ago. i've done some commands (it sounds dumn, but it's kinda accidently) of aticonfig from the http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configurin
[21:16] <Pancakes> s00p, yeah I know that now. You told me to go to nautilus and then go to preferences though, so where's preferences?
[21:16] <proprietarysucks> Pancakes: really? click edit > preferences
[21:16] <proprietarysucks> come on man
[21:17] <s00p> click edit
[21:17] <Pancakes> Ah I must be blind
[21:17] <s00p> click preferences
[21:17] <gb_1> s00p:  happens ;)
[21:17] <usrl> ok, I tried setting my menu.lst to "vga=normal", and my monitor still goes NO SIGNAL when I CTRL+ALT+F1 =/ I've tried just about everything I can think of, and google is no help.
[21:17] <tadah> soundray, sorry, the link was: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Configuring
[21:17] <proprietarysucks> usrl: do you know what menu.lst is?
[21:17] <gb_1> odd thank you very much for ur help :)
[21:18] <soundray> tadah: I see. The quickest way back to a working setup for you is probably a reinstall. Consider saving the .deb files in /var/cache/archives/ if you go down that route. On the fresh install, you can just put them back and you won't have to re-download them.
[21:18] <usrl> proprietarysucks: yes
[21:18] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: np didn't do much...
[21:18] <proprietarysucks> it has nothing to do with your OS so I doubt that
[21:18] <soundray> tadah: sorry, the path is /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:18] <usrl> proprietarysucks: Everything I've read about terminals involves it.
[21:18] <kristjans> Can anyone check if this should work, especially the grub-install part? http://pastebin.com/m7330675f
[21:18] <usrl> proprietarysucks: setting the size, that is.
[21:18] <tadah> ahh damn.. hoped something easier:/
[21:19] <usrl> proprietarysucks: and if that's wrong, tell me what's right so I can get this damn thing working =/
[21:19] <tadah> incredible how few lines messes everything up
[21:19] <darkangel_> how do i get my cell phone recognized as a modem (verizion lgvx7000 wth a usb cable)
[21:19] <PurpZeY> soundray: So, if I wanted to go the back up to a partition route, how would I create the backup and then how would I restore it if I had trouble?
[21:19] <datenhamster> how can I check which version of the ati-driver is installed? I have used the restricted driver manager
[21:19] <Bruno_> which .iso file do i have to download i get it working on an iBook
[21:19] <PurpZeY> darkangel_: I was reading about that last night, and I read that you need to install a few modules...ppp and some things, but I don't know specific detials
[21:20] <soundray> tadah: reinstalling is *so* easy :)
[21:20] <gryfie__> ok, the via -unichromedriver from via-websites says, it's for ubuntu 7.04
[21:20] <gryfie__> where can i find ubuntu 7.04 ?
[21:20] <Bruno_> which .iso file do i have to download i get it working on an iBook
[21:20] <proprietarysucks> usrl: that file is for grub, which is loaded before your OS. switching terminals is part of linux, which has nothing to do with grub
[21:20] <tadah> ok, thanks man :)
[21:20] <gb_1> gryfie__:  let me get a link
[21:20] <PIPBoy> hey i just installed my printers drivers with gusty and anything i print comes out fragged, discolored and transparent
[21:20] <PIPBoy> anyone know what this could be?
[21:20] <proprietarysucks> usrl: paste this please.
[21:20] <usrl> proprietarysucks: again, if you know so much, tell me what does then.
[21:21] <soundray> kristjans: it should work, but instead of all that chroot-bind hassle, consider grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/disk
[21:21] <Bruno_> which .iso file do i have to download i get it working on an iBook
[21:21] <Pancakes> k thanks. Looks better now than having those huge icons. I have another question. I have to do a ndiswrapper for my wireless network adapter each time I boot, how can I make it so that I don't have to type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and sudo dmesg | grep ndis
[21:21] <proprietarysucks> if I know so much?
[21:21] <darkangel_> anyone here know how to use bitpim
[21:21] <usrl> proprietarysucks: sorry if I'm being rude, but this is really pissing me off
[21:21] <Pancakes> Like as in, where I don't have to do it everytime. It just automatically starts looking for the network
[21:21] <soundray> kristjans: man grub-install will shed more light
[21:21] <kristjans> soundray, remove the chroot stuff and use grub-install -root blabla? :)
[21:21] <gb_1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[21:21] <gryfie__> gb: Thx, yes, would be great
[21:21] <proprietarysucks> usrl: paste the result of this here
[21:22] <proprietarysucks> lspci | grep -i vga
[21:22] <nilson> ANyone here good with CUPS and/or gutenprint
[21:22] <soundray> kristjans: exactly.
[21:22] <daniel2007> bonsoir j'ai un probleme au demarrage et a l'arret de ubuntu 7.10  j'ai pas de barre de progression
[21:22] <darkangel_> once my phone is a modem how do i find the port
[21:22] <kristjans> soundray, thank you and my friend who has the problem said that you are cool :P lol
[21:22] <datenhamster> how can I check which version of the ati driver has been installed by the restricted driver manager?
[21:22] <gb_1> gryfie__:  got the link?
[21:22] <soundray> kristjans: be aware that making subdirectories under /mnt isn't conforming with FHS, strictly speaking
[21:22] <usrl> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6200 A-LE (rev a1)  proprietarysucks; my graphics work fine in GNOME/GDM
[21:22] <proprietarysucks> datenhamster: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:23] <vectalix> Why do I have no cube fonction, I activate the 4 virtual desktop in Compiz
[21:23] <datenhamster> proprietarysucks: thanks, will try
[21:23] <soundray> kristjans: I'm so cool you can keep a side of meat in me for a month.
[21:23] <kristjans> soundray, it's live CD, shouldn't make any difference?
[21:23] <soundray> kristjans: none
[21:23] <sioux> hi folks
[21:23] <gb_1> Odd-rationale: 1 more question
[21:23] <kristjans> soundray, thanks again (:
[21:23] <gb_1> can i install ubuntu from hard disk?
[21:23] <soundray> kristjans: note that what I gave you wasn't the full command
[21:23] <soundray> kristjans: but you've noticed that, I'm sure
[21:23] <PIPBoy> hey i just installed my printers drivers with gusty and anything i print comes out fragged, discolored and transparent
[21:23] <sioux> who use kernel rt?
[21:23] <PIPBoy> anyone know what this could be?
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: you can install ubuntu from a flash drive.
[21:24] <kristjans> soundray: :/ actually i didn't
[21:24] <soundray> PIPBoy: a bad/wrong driver
[21:24] <proprietarysucks> usrl: the number of physical monitors attached to your system is __
[21:24] <krammer> I need something like kwallet but for gnome
[21:24] <kristjans> soundray: so i have to modify the attributes for grub-install using manualL
[21:24] <usrl> proprietarysucks: one.
[21:25] <soundray> kristjans: give me a minute
[21:25] <gb_1> ok ty
[21:25] <Odd-rationale> gb_1: You can also install ubuntu with just internet connection, if you have a working system (linux or windows)
[21:25] <PIPBoy> soundray: yeah man but its gusty and it listed it as the same printer that i have... its really odd
[21:25] <SilentSquall> hello
[21:25] <PIPBoy> soundray: ive even re-installed ubuntu (because i need this printer working) and it still didnt work
[21:25] <proprietarysucks> usrl: you are able to go back to gnome by using ctrl-alt-f7 when the other ttys don't work  t/f ?
[21:25] <SilentSquall> i need some support on dnsmasq and ubuntu used as router
[21:25] <usrl> proprietarysucks: yep.
[21:25] <datenhamster> proprietarysucks: lspci does not tell the version number
[21:25] <sharpie> why is browsing so terribly slow under gutsy?
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> what CLI command is it that will compare two files?
[21:26] <gb_1> bastid_raZor:  cmp
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> thanks gb_1
[21:26] <hoarycripple> bastid_raZor, diff
[21:26] <proprietarysucks> bastid_raZor: diff file1 file2
[21:26] <yurimxpxman> bastid_raZor: diff as well
[21:26] <soundray> kristjans: here's how I would do it: http://pastebin.com/d257f23d4
[21:26] <krammer> is gutsy better than fiesty
[21:26] <kristjans> soundray: thank you (:
[21:26] <usrl> krammer: that's opinion really. Better for what?
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> thansk proprietarysucks yurimxpxman
[21:26] <soundray> kristjans: note that this installs grub to the partition. That's fine if you have a boot loader that chainloads it.
[21:27] <riotkittie> where's GDM resolution set?  >|
[21:27] <SilentSquall> does anyone here know something about dnsmasq?
[21:27] <krammer> if it isnt better than why upgrade
[21:27] <kristjans> soundray: uh. the problem is that the boot loader doesn't work
[21:27] <kristjans> soundray: it says 'no os found'
[21:27] <proprietarysucks> usrl: the output of the command     uname -m
[21:27] <`cb> neato
[21:27] <usrl> i686
[21:27] <soundray> kristjans: in that case, you probably want to replace the final /dev/hdc1 with /dev/hda
[21:27] <`cb> i like ubuntu :)
[21:28] <soundray> kristjans: that will put grub on the MBR of the first disk of the system.
[21:28] <burwaco> I have something weird going on, I'm on a laptop with 2 speakers and a "bassboost" underneath, the weird thing is that the 2 normal speakers are controlled by master and the "bass" by pcm, so when I want to mute sound I have to open volume control and mute the pcm manual otherwise the bass keeps playing at normal volume, is there a way I can link master and pcm together, so that they slide together ?
[21:28] <kristjans> soundray: his only hard disk should be hdc
[21:29] <proprietarysucks> usrl: your driver is old apparently
[21:29] <kevsthabest> hey guys i need a hand.. i want to upgrade my harddrives, the basic idea will be copying over my bootsector to a different drive.. how would i go about to do that?
[21:29] <usrl> proprietarysucks: I used Restricted Drivers Manager
[21:29] <kristjans> soundray: he doesn't have a long enough cable to make his hdd primary instead of secondary
[21:29] <soundray> kristjans: okay, that's unusual, because he's connected it to the secondary IDE channel. Use /dev/hdc in place of /dev/hdc1 in that case.
[21:29] <pike_> kevsthabest: dd
[21:29] <kristjans> soundray: okay :P
[21:29] <kristjans> soundray: although i didn't work
[21:30] <usrl> proprietarysucks: either way, an old driver shouldn't effect this; aren't terminal sessions supposed to not need drivers at all? Which is why when people have driver troubles, they use them to install...
[21:30] <kristjans> soundray: last time we tried ^^
[21:30] <soundray> PIPBoy: it's not great advice, but consider a proprietary driver from turboprint
[21:30] <proprietarysucks> usrl: download this file: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.19/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[21:30] <chelooxxx> i wanna know if in case i install ubuntu,the OS will detect automaticly the settinghs for hte network,i am talking about the DHCP
[21:30] <soundray> kristjans: last time you tried you didn't know about --root-directory
[21:30] <raph> what is the correct way to effectively do an insmod on startup ? I need to add nvidia_new to my started modules, and have to go to the .ko file manually and do it - I assume there is a better way than putting insmod /path/to/nvidia_new.ko in rc.local ?
[21:30] <kristjans> soundray: okay  ;)
[21:30] <proprietarysucks> usrl: then    chmod +x filename
[21:30] <proprietarysucks> usrl: then ./filename
[21:31] <soundray> raph: add a line containing only the module name (not .ko) to /etc/modules
[21:31] <pike_> dd if=/dev/hda of=backup.mbr bs=512 count=1   then dd if=backup.mbr of=/dev/hdb    and such..
[21:31] <pike_> kevsthabest: ^
[21:31] <raph> I have tried that - perhaps it can not find the .ko file?
[21:32] <raph> soundray, ^
[21:32] <critt> No answer in #firefox with help.. Anyone know why some pages I view say "no video" in the video box? There are also  no controls in the video box.
[21:32] <kevsthabest> i wont lose anything that i would have on the receiving drive would i pike_?
[21:32] <soundray> raph: ie. 'echo nvidia_new | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[21:32] <usrl> proprietarysucks: alright, gimme a bit
[21:32] <vectalix> Why do I have no cube fonction, I activate the 4 virtual desktop in Compiz
[21:32] <Odd-rationale> !ccsm
[21:32] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:32] <d90> I get following messages in gpart in terminal: Unable to open /dev/scd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/scd0 has been opened read-only. Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label. What to do?
[21:33] <raph> soundray, I will try that, thanks
[21:33] <zombi-> when enabling/disabling plugins ive noticed you have to restart compiz too
[21:33] <zombi-> brb
[21:34] <DaveBowman> Hi all. Can anyone tell if the Gutsy update works well? I have 7.04 (Feisty) now, with many programs installed... will it remove my current programs? It's a reliable process?
[21:34] <marky_mark> Hi. Am very new to Linux/Ubuntu. If I go Places->Computer and right click my hard drive, I get the option to Mount Volume.  Is this normal?
[21:34] <mon> anyone here happen to know whether old machines (like a compaq proliant 2500) can handle a dvd-rom?
[21:34] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: Are you using the LiveCD?
[21:35] <SudoKing> DaveBowman: Gutsy does not replace your programs, just updates and improves them
[21:35] <marky_mark> No. Have Ubuntu installed alongside Windows on the same drive.
[21:35] <soundray> mon: to most computers, all that matters is whether it is an ATAPI drive. Most DVD-ROMs are, so chances are it will work.
[21:35] <burwaco> marky_mark: hard drive or dvd rom ?
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: And do you see a "filesystem" in "computer?
[21:36] <mon> soundray: that's what i thought. but it's being recognized as a ide-floppy device which of-course, fails... couldn't be some ancient bios thing or something?
[21:36] <mcquaid> DaveBowman, if all your programs were installed via apt-get/synaptic and you didn't add a bunch of custom sources, no you'll have no issue
[21:36] <soundray> DaveBowman: it's fairly reliable, but backup your data anyway
[21:36] <marky_mark> Yes, can see filesystem.
[21:36] <usrl> proprietarysucks: You missed one thing though. You have to exit X server in order to run the drivers.
[21:36] <kevsthabest> pike_: i wont lose anything that i would have on the receiving drive would i?
[21:36] <mcquaid> if you added a bunch of custom sources and have a lot of non official debs, sometimes it's better to remove them first
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: That is your ubuntu partition drive. The other is you windows. Yes it is normal
[21:37] <gryfie__> saw gb: Yes, I got the link, loading down
[21:37] <s00p> we did shots of cheap tequila at the office. was almost like drinking ripple.
[21:37] <DaveBowman> SudoKing: thanks. I'm worried about VirtualBox, I'm using several virtual machines, and I updated the kernel version (from 6.2.20 to 6.2.22) in Gutsy. Due to this, VirtualBox had to recompile some modules, and I don't know if they will still work after update
[21:37] <soundray> mon: I'd try looking for a BIOS update. Also, the guys in ##hardware might be more knowledgeable than this channel
[21:37] <osium> how do i enable compiz with my intel vga card?
[21:37] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: In others words, you can mount your windows partition in Ubuntu.
[21:37] <mon> soundray: no updates afaik, the guys in ##hardware arent helpful either :( thanks anyway
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: Does that make sense?
[21:38] <talcite> hey guys, Is there a channel for devs?
[21:38] <DaveBowman> SudoKing: sorry, I mean that I have updated kernel to 6.2.22 in FEISTY
[21:38] <SudoKing> oh
[21:38] <proprietarysucks> usrl: well I guess you want your money back then
[21:38] <soundray> mon: what about the BIOS setup -- have you looked for options there? Is the drive recognized?
[21:38] <usrl> proprietarysucks: my point was that you had no idea what I was even talking about. You seem to have proved that pretty well.
[21:39] <spriizha> huj
[21:39] <SudoKing> the kernel is the core of Ubuntu, shouldn't remove your programs
[21:39] <spriizha> pizda
[21:39] <spriizha> manda
[21:39] <MilitantPotato> How do i add a custom monitor to screens and grafics?
[21:39] <proprietarysucks> usrl: press the button front of your computer labelled power
[21:39] <hypercity> i have a problem with the builtin microphone of a packard bell easynote mx laptop , it worked in feisty can anyone pls help me
[21:39] <mvanbaak> heya all
[21:39] <proprietarysucks> then wait and press it again
[21:39] <Toptyg> hello all
[21:39] <usrl> proprietarysucks: Or I could not.
[21:39] <kevsthabest> how can i bint where my bootsector would be?(what drive)
[21:39] <mvanbaak> how can I create keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu 7.10 using gnome ?
[21:40] <mvanbaak> like CTRL+ALT+x to open a terminal
[21:40] <mon> soundray: when i tried booting from cd/dvdrom from the bios i get an error that the medium wasn't recognized
[21:40] <usrl> proprietarysucks: BTW, I set my power button to ask instead of just turn off. Nice try anyway though :)
[21:40] <marky_mark> Odd-rationale: thanks for that. The only reason I asked this question was that when I started my computer today, the system went through some sort of check, saying something like the system had mounted the volume 25 times without a check.  After a short while, the desktop appeared as usual.  Any idea why it did the check?
[21:40] <proprietarysucks> usrl: you are really not getting it
[21:40] <bastid_raZor> where might a guide to set ssh and scp up without needing a password between two boxes on the same network?
[21:40] <Toptyg> How I can create virtual fs ? file (dev) for using it for hdd
[21:40] <soundray> mon: what's the CPU in your Compaq? Just to get an idea of its generation?
[21:40] <CCB0x45> anyone gotten mythstreamtv to work on ubuntu?/
[21:40] <proprietarysucks> usrl: press power then wait. then turn back on. then when grub comes up press a key to stop it from loading. then you press E
[21:40] <DaveBowman> SudoKing: ok, but I'm wondering if the update process look for its 'known' kernel (6.2.20) in order to update it. If it does this, updater won't find the Feisty kernel... don't know wether my question is clear
[21:40] <mon> bastid_raZor: google for ssh-keygen + scp, good luck i couldnt get it to work ;)
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: That is normal. It was checking you ubuntu prtition not you windows, however.
[21:41] <mon> soundray: 2x pentium pro 200mhz
[21:41] <proprietarysucks> usrl: are you writing this down? I'm trying to tell you how to fix your problem
[21:41] <mon> soundray: pretty old ;) bios says 1991
[21:41] <usrl> proprietarysucks: sure.
[21:41] <mvanbaak> proprietarysucks: go here: http://www.electricmonk.nl/index.php?page=TipsTricks#programs
[21:41] <bastid_raZor> mon, i had it working in 7.04.. just trying to get back to pre-7.10 status.
[21:41] <Toptyg> sample /dev/xxx mount -/dev/xxx xxx- file 1G
[21:41] <mvanbaak> scroll down to 'ssh without password'
[21:41] <soundray> mon: might be a lost cause, sorry
[21:41] <proprietarysucks> usrl: after you press E you move your curser to the kernel line
[21:41] <mon> soundray: though i was under the impression any random pentium 100 system could work with a dvd-rom... guess im wrong
[21:41] <soundray> bastid_raZor: there is a good guide, let me find it...
[21:42] <mon> bastid_raZor: how's it not working then?
[21:42] <proprietarysucks> usrl: then press E again to edit that line. simply add a 1 at the end of the line such as fkgdkfjgdkfjg 1
[21:42] <mvanbaak> oops
[21:42] <proprietarysucks> usrl: then press enter then B
[21:42] <bastid_raZor> mon i did a fresh install on the desktop.
[21:42] <mvanbaak> bastid_raZor: go here: http://www.electricmonk.nl/index.php?page=TipsTricks#programs
[21:42] <soundray> bastid_raZor: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[21:42] <marky_mark> Odd-rationale: So no need to sweat then?  Maybe I got too used to seeing the BSD in Windows!
[21:42] <bastid_raZor> thanks soundray mvanbaak
[21:42] <Toptyg> How to create DEV hdd ? not in memory...
[21:42] <proprietarysucks> usrl: that will start your computer in single user mode, you WILL get a terminal or your system is not linux. period.
[21:43] <Toptyg> in file as in virual machine
[21:43] <proprietarysucks> mvanbaak: what are you telling me to go to and why?
[21:43] <Toptyg> qemu for exemple ..
[21:43] <bastid_raZor> awesome.. was looking for how to set ls again too..
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> marky_mark: Yes, that is all fine. Anyways, welcome to Ubuntu. Hope you enjoy the freedom!
[21:43] <soundray> bastid_raZor: essentially, you run 'ssh-keygen -t id_dsa' on one machine, then append the contents of ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to the other machine's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:43] <mvanbaak> proprietarysucks: sorry, wrong nick in the line
[21:43] <mrlinux_> does anyone use linux for a living (work wise) or just a hobby?
[21:44] <superid> hi, can anyone tell me the command to check my exact audio codec chip?
[21:44] <javb> When i enable visual effects i have beryl, i think, how can i hav COMPIZ, and something called advance compiz manager?
[21:44] <soundray> mrlinux_: both
[21:44] <critt> Anyone know why some pages I view say "no video" in the video box using firefox ? There are also  no controls in the video box.
[21:44] <medo> hi
[21:44] <proprietarysucks> I work at a major linux server distributer
[21:44] <mvanbaak> ok, found the answer to my question
[21:44] <mvanbaak> latero all
[21:44] <superid> I ran the command a few hours back, can't seem to find the site I got it from :(
[21:44] <soundray> mrlinux_: better to ask this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:44] <bastid_raZor> mrlinux_, my wife uses this box, she is a court reporter
[21:44] <mrlinux_> ah
[21:44] <mrlinux_> cheers
[21:44] <javb> Because, with beryl, since many versions before, it gets freeze every 5 minutes, for about 5 seconds, and then, continues.
[21:44] <medo> what is happen
[21:44]  * callumh waves
[21:44] <javb> Any ideas guys?
[21:44] <javb> Upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[21:44] <javb> With update manager
[21:45] <DaveBowman> mrlinux_: yes I do work with Ubuntu, but I have to say that VirtualBox helps... I need VisualStudio running
[21:45] <proprietarysucks> usrl: from that command line you install the new driver. when it asks for opengl 32 bit support say yes
[21:45] <marky_mark> Odd-rationale: Thanks for the welcome.  The last week has been a real learning curve for me, but the support of other Ubuntu users has been incredible.  There's nothing like that with Windows.
[21:45] <medo> áä Ùäêç
[21:45] <superid> found it: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
[21:45] <medo> nok nok nok can i come in
[21:45] <medo> ?
[21:45] <Nyle> bhatia
[21:45]  * callumh waves
[21:45] <TlM> hello
[21:46] <proprietarysucks> usrl: it will ask if you want to download or build from source, choose NO (so that it builds from source)
[21:46] <mon> mrlinux_: lspci?
[21:46] <critt> Windows Has all kinds of support. Starting at $49 a session..:P
[21:46] <proprietarysucks> or #windows
[21:47] <TlM> any of you guys know how to make slmodem work? it says something like playback (64) error
[21:47] <Whisper> If i got a process running, how can i figure out where the file is located?
[21:47] <bieb> its only 49 now?
[21:47] <proprietarysucks> Whisper: please be more clear about what you mean
[21:48] <gnomefreak> Whisper: why look for file instead of just stopping the process from running
[21:48] <gnomefreak> the file isnt gonna help you
[21:48] <Whisper> i got a suspect process running on my box, wanna know WHERE the file is located on the disk, i cant find it with find or where is
[21:48] <DaveBowman> sorry, does anyone know which is the kernel version of Gutsy? I updated my Feisty to 2.6.22-11-generic, need to know whether is the same version
[21:48] <Pici> DaveBowman: 2.6.22-14-generic
[21:48] <jpb_jpb> hi all
[21:48] <critt> Yea but that $49 bucks usually get you a . Third party software excuse or hardware failure excuse.
[21:49] <gnomefreak> Whisper: try locate but again the file isnt gonna help you stop the process
[21:49] <BubblegumTate> Dave: type uname -r into the terminal
[21:49] <proprietarysucks> a suspect process lol you must be from windows
[21:49] <Whisper> i know there is a cmd for isting all the files thats running in lnx but cant remember it
[21:49] <proprietarysucks> Whisper: top
[21:49] <gnomefreak> Whisper: ps aux
[21:49] <proprietarysucks> ps aux
[21:49] <Whisper> gnomefreak nope, but im pretty sure ive gotten hacked
[21:49] <gnomefreak> proprietarysucks: top doesnt list all of them
[21:49] <Whisper> the process is named ssh-scan
[21:49] <NSM> ps -ef
[21:49] <bieb> critt... it used to be 95 per incident.. and it was still some level 1 flunky blaming some other piece of software
[21:49] <jpb_jpb> I'm playing around w gOS, a stripped-down ubuntu variant, and I'm having trouble remapping the keyboard to dvorak.
[21:49] <gnomefreak> Whisper: than you have an ssh process open kill it
[21:50] <jpb_jpb> can anyone tell me how to remap using the command line?
[21:50] <Whisper> no, just me in there i think
[21:50] <Pici> Whisper: kill the pid #
[21:50] <Whisper> there are like 20 of em
[21:50] <Whisper> i did killall ssh-scan but its back there again
[21:50] <proprietarysucks> Whisper: killall ssh-scan
[21:50] <Pici> Whisper: do `who`
[21:50] <DaveBowman> Pici: Do you know if it can be considered as being the 'same' version, in terms of linux headers? I have an installation of VirtualBox that needed to compile its modules against my kernel
[21:50] <bieb> killall -9
[21:50] <Whisper> Pici just me there...
[21:50] <Pici> DaveBowman: I dont know, sorry.
[21:50] <yurimxpxman> what's the sftp command to download an entire directory? `get dirname` isn't working for me..
[21:51] <critt> bieb: WOW Really? Well its been sometime . I only used them once with win95
[21:51]  * gnomefreak doubts you are being hacked
[21:51] <usrl> proprietarysucks: it did nothing.
[21:51] <TlM> any of you guys know how to make slmodem work? it says something like playback (64) error
[21:51] <proprietarysucks> usrl: what did nothing
[21:51] <bieb> I havent used them in forever either
[21:51] <gnomefreak> critt: can we please stop the windows topic
[21:51] <ZEA> did installing ubuntu on fake raid (e.g., nvidia raid) get any easier?
[21:52] <BubblegumTate> I installed snow, http://snow.iro.umontreal.ca and it asked me to do this "export PATH="$HOME/.snow-site/current/bin:$PATH""
[21:52] <BubblegumTate> which only seems to work until I close the terminal
[21:52] <Darkdemun> orly?
[21:52] <proprietarysucks> ZEA: installing linux on nvidia raids is a matter of having a driver disk or built-in driver, not really an easier/harder thing
[21:52] <usrl> proprietarysucks: editing grub
[21:52] <BubblegumTate> how can I set that permenantly
[21:52] <proprietarysucks> usrl: you didn't even leave the room did you?
[21:52] <critt> gnomefreak: It seams to be the only topic I get a response to at the moment . But sure N/P
[21:52] <proprietarysucks> usrl: or is this another computer
[21:52] <ZEA> proprietarysucks: there was a wiki on getting ubuntu to work on fakeraid with a mostly hand made installation (using chroot)
[21:52] <usrl> proprietarysucks: I did. My network is odd, and I use pidgin, so it might not have shown up
[21:52] <gnomefreak> critt: than please join #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about it
[21:53] <`cb> thats messed up, phpMyAdmin is missing style like craziness
[21:53] <proprietarysucks> usrl: was there a number already after your kernel line?
[21:53] <cyphase> cool, you can download gOS, the distro WalMart is using on their new linux computers: http://www.thinkgos.com/
[21:53] <ZEA> very nasty stuff
[21:53] <Whisper> wanna run that process myself so i can see wtf is going on....
[21:53] <usrl> proprietarysucks: nope
[21:53] <critt> What an ass
[21:53] <gnomefreak> critt: ?
[21:53] <Whisper> found this aswell http://www.omgili.com/preview/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5saW51eGJvYXJkcy5vcmcvc2hvd3RocmVhZC5waHA/dD0yMjA2
[21:53] <yurimxpxman> what's the sftp command to download an entire directory? `get dirname` isn't working for me..
[21:53] <ZEA> I only use fake raid because I have a dual boot with windows, of course. otherwise I'd be using software raid
[21:53] <usrl> proprietarysucks: should I edit menu.lst directly and then reboot?
[21:53] <critt> no thanks
[21:54] <pike_> yurimxpxman: mget then you can do wildcards and such
[21:54] <gnomefreak> .ar critt
[21:54] <NSM> yurimxpxman: mget
[21:54] <SpudDogg> I'm having trouble mounting a partition.  If I run 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/device /path/to/mountpoint
[21:55] <SpudDogg> I'm having trouble mounting a partition.  If I run 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/device /path/to/mountpoint' it works fine, but if I put '/dev/sdb1       /mnt/S  ext3            defaults 0 0' into /etc/fstab, i get errors.  anyone know why?
[21:55] <Whisper> root@WD:/# find|grep ssh-scan
[21:55] <Whisper> ./dev/shm/..                            /.drive/kapela/ssh-scan
[21:55] <Whisper> thats kinda odd to...
[21:55] <el> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu on my machine, and i get an error on first boot from my monitor about freq out of range...
[21:55] <Whisper> cant find that dir
[21:55] <cizarr> any clue why my GRUB wont load? its like Vista booting is loaded only and prevent the grub boot menu... what could i do?
[21:55] <usrl> proprietarysucks: actually, another computer... that gives me an idea
[21:55] <gnomefreak> Whisper: odd is you are running as root
[21:55] <DaveBowman> another question. I see that processes and information doesn't match between 'System monitor' and 'top' command. Does anyone know why? It seems that system monitor doesn't show all the processes
[21:55] <yurimxpxman> pike_, NSM: it says "Cannot download non-regular file: /dir/name" :/
[21:55] <usrl> proprietarysucks: if you send me anything, do it in PM, I'm gonna try something so I might not see it otherwise
[21:55] <el> How can i for my Frequency/resolution issue?
[21:56] <Zaborg> xD
[21:56] <bulmer> cizarr-> where did you install your grub?
[21:56] <badness> cizarr: the alternative install CD has a 'fix broken system' option which will add grub for you; has it worked in the past?
[21:56] <Whisper> how do i mount a /dev/shm thing?
[21:56] <pike_> yurimxpxman: you can cd dir then mget * but that isnt recursive
[21:57] <yurimxpxman> pike_: oh, ok. thanx :)
[21:57] <el> is there something like system-config-display like in fedora? my monitor is out of range...
[21:57] <bieb> would mget -R * work?
[21:57] <DaveBowman> gregorovius: Are you the one from Rayuela? :)
[21:57] <gregorovius> DaveBowman, yep, got my nick from there
[21:58] <cyphase> Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any tools that allow you to set a different wallpaper on each of your dual monitors?
[21:58] <cyphase> Even if it means it's setting a single wallpaper that's stitched together
[21:58] <Zaborg> hello all ^^
[21:58] <gregorovius> have you read cortazar?
[21:58] <cizarr> bulmer: i used guided partitioning... didnt mess with that
[21:58] <NSM> yurimpxman: looks like that w/ that error you will need to use scp.
[21:58] <el> does anyone know if 2 monitors will cause ubuntu to not boot properly?
[21:58] <cizarr> badness: didnt tried it, should it work?
[21:58] <DaveBowman> gregorovius: yes, I have read Cortazar, but sorry, only Rayuela...
[21:59] <cyphase> el: it shouldn't
[21:59] <badness> cizarr: did you install ubuntu and then windows? Windows will trash grub if you do it that way round
[21:59] <Zaborg> is kristjans here ??
[21:59] <bulmer> cizarr-> can you paste your menu.lst in pastebin?
[21:59] <Pici> DaveBowman: Make sure that your view> settings in System Monitor is set to all processes.
[21:59] <SoteriouLoucas> !loco
[21:59] <bieb> who was trying to sftp an entire directory???
[21:59] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[21:59] <cizarr> badness: nope... i installed ubuntu when vista is already installed
[22:00] <el> cyphase: both my screens go all wacky on boot, and my CRT says out of range, LCD just goes funny
[22:00] <bulmer> cizarr-> how many drives do you have and how many partitions?
[22:00] <Whisp3r> i got this things on my server http://www.pastebin.ca/759155, how do i acsess that dir?
[22:00] <cyphase> el: in gutsy?
[22:00] <cizarr> bulmer: is there any way to read linux partition on vista?
[22:00] <el> cyphase: 7.10
[22:00] <cyphase> el: i don't know what to tell you. it's worked fine for me
[22:00] <cizarr> bulmer: 2 drive, 7 partitions
[22:00] <Poul|Raider> Hello. I am trying to set a hotkey in the keyboard shortcuts to launch a terminal, but get "No terminal command has been defined." when i click the key after?
[22:00] <bulmer> cizarr-> not that am aware of, maybe if UFS (for w2003) may work though
[22:01] <cyphase> cizarr: there's a driver for ext3, possibly reiserfs
[22:01] <el> cyphase: :( why does this monitor issue keep happening to me? :( its been like that on a few installs in the past too, differnt machines
[22:01] <DaveBowman> Pici: wow, seems that System monitor doesn't start now... it says 'starting' and then disappears...
[22:01] <Pici> DaveBowman: Er, Thats weird.
[22:01] <el> cyphase: thanks anyways.....do you know if there is a system-config-display like, or xorgconfig util or something?
[22:01] <bulmer> cizarr-> of the two drives which is the boot drive for vista ? and which partition is that? how about ubuntu which drve and partition?
[22:02] <nufan> Hey, anyway I can get a terminal by itself, no X Server?
[22:02] <cyphase> el: yea, System->Administration->Screen and Graphics
[22:02] <Pici> !xconfig | el
[22:02] <ubotu> el: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[22:02] <el> cyphase: :( i cant start X, is there a way to run it from command line, or start a default X
[22:02] <DaveBowman> Pici: Ok, it was my fault... now it's working with ALL the processes! thank you
[22:02] <el> pici thanks
[22:02] <cizarr> bulmer: vista=hd0,1 , linux=hd1,1
[22:02] <gavi> vauge.. so what must i do
[22:02] <gavi> ive typed in this command
[22:02] <bulmer> cizarr-> can you paste your menu.lst in pastebin?
[22:03] <ColonelJ> how do I check if SSH is installed?
[22:03] <javb> ..
[22:03] <cyphase> ColonelJ: try to install it :)
[22:03] <cizarr> bulmer: i will switch to ubuntu livecd and will paste it... will be much easier .. brb
[22:03] <ColonelJ> oh wait, I typed ssh and it worked...
[22:03] <cyphase> ColonelJ: or just open Synaptic and check
[22:03] <cyphase> ColonelJ: did you mean the client or the server?
[22:03] <ColonelJ> oh server sorry
[22:04] <cyphase> ColonelJ: check Synaptic
[22:04] <nufan> I'm trying to remote login to a computer and start the X server on it, any help?
[22:04] <Pici> ColonelJ: apt-cache policy openssh-server
[22:04] <nufan> Every time I try, it says X is already being used
[22:04] <askand> Why does firefox hang when I open a page with a javaapplet?
[22:05] <gavi> vauge. withut being a tic, theres alot of traffic now in the room, so maybe u missed my post, but im eagerly waiting for instuctions on what to do
[22:05] <starcannon> hey everyone
[22:05] <ColonelJ> thanks Piki
[22:05] <ColonelJ> it is installe
[22:05] <DaveBowman> let me add something, askand... why does firefox hang when I CLOSE a page that is running a YouTube (or even any kind of flash) video?
[22:05] <el> exit
[22:06] <Whisp3r> i got this things on my server http://www.pastebin.ca/759155, how do i acsess that dir?
[22:06] <Pici> gavi: Whats the question?
[22:06] <Pici> Whisp3r: Have you tried `cd "./dev/shm/..                            /.drive/"
[22:06] <gavi> pici im not even sure.. vauge was recomending me to run memtest86, i just finished a fresh install of ubuntu
[22:07] <gavi> and the computers acting all weird
[22:07] <Pici> gavi: hm.
[22:07] <Whisp3r> pici dosent work
[22:07] <gavi> please understand my linux knowledge is begginer
[22:08] <gavi> and my spelling blows
[22:08] <gavi> i need to go back to elementry school
[22:08] <Pici> gavi: Theres no one here by the name of vague.
[22:08] <gavi> he was here a minute ago
[22:08] <gavi> i could of scared him off ;-)
[22:08] <Pici> gavi: Are you sure? I dont see anything in my logs
[22:09] <Pici> Whisp3r: Do you have a gui you could try to navigate to that directory to with>
[22:09] <gavi> pretty damn sure
[22:10] <gavi> nope
[22:10] <gavi> ur right
[22:10] <gavi> im in the wrong room
[22:10] <thegve> Hello. When I use the XGL server and Compiz Fusion my Video Playback (using either Mplayer, VLC or Totem) is rubbish. I get FPS's of 2-4.
[22:10] <cube> !offtopic
[22:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:10] <Pici> cube: ?
[22:10] <thegve> Is this a known issue or are there things I can improve?
[22:10] <starcannon> join
[22:10] <nufan> Any help? I'm trying to either a) Get a console login that isn't from GRUB or b) Kill the X server and just have a console with no X
[22:11] <thegve> HW acceleration is fine ; desktop is fluent
[22:11] <Pici> thegve: Have you tried changing your output type in your media players to something else?
[22:11] <Pici> nufan: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you to a vtty
[22:11] <thegve> Pici: Yes, I have tried all
[22:11] <DaveBowman> Does anyone realized that Firefox hangs when closing a windows that is displaying a video from YouTube or any other flash video? Any solution?
[22:11] <Pici> thegve: Try asking in #compiz-fusion then
[22:11] <Zaborg> no ^^
[22:11] <thegve> OpenGL rendering crashed XGL..
[22:12] <thegve> Pici: Will do
[22:12] <Pici> Zaborg: no?
[22:12] <Pici> DaveBowman: I believe its a flash problem.
[22:12] <DaveBowman> Pici: I tried updating the flash version, with the same results
[22:12] <sean_> hi, anyone know where I might start t/shooting the sound on my laptop
[22:13] <sean_> I'm lost without alsaconf
[22:13] <pyrohotdo2> How do I add the non-free and contrib repos?
[22:13] <Pici> DaveBowman: I dont think its something that a version upgrade is going to help.  I think its inherently wrong with the way that Adobe programmed flash.
[22:13] <crimsun_> sean_: start with http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh
[22:13] <Pici> pyrohotdo2: System>Administration>Software Sources
[22:13] <sean_> pyrohotdo2, doesn't synaptic allow you to do that?
[22:13] <Pici> DaveBowman: I have the same issue here, you're not the only one.
[22:13] <pyrohotdo2> Pici: Thank you. :)
[22:14] <DaveBowman> Pici: yes, maybe, but this doesn't happen in 'other' OS, even in other browsers in Linux
[22:14] <nufan> Pici: tried ctrl-alt-f1, all it did was make my screen a tiny bit less bright :)
[22:14] <brickbat> hi, i updated the nvidia driver through auto updates today and my system has been going crazy ever since
[22:14] <Pici> DaveBowman: Well, I'm sure that theres a bug logged about it, Its been reported here many times.
[22:15] <Pici> nufan: did you say that you could ssh in before?
[22:15]  * N3bunel away
[22:15] <brickbat> any way to go back to the old one?
[22:15] <TlM> Pici: Do you know about the period size 48 error .. with slmodem? Any ideas on how to fix that?
[22:15] <DaveBowman> Pici: ok, thanks. So we need to wait for a solution to this issue
[22:15] <Pici> TlM: I dont know anything about modems, sorry.
[22:15] <nufan> I can ssh into the computer, but I would like to start the window manager on that computer
[22:15] <Pici> DaveBowman: Yeah.  I'll take a look at the bug later and see if theres any progress on it.
[22:15] <andreas> srever
[22:15] <TlM> Pici: thanks
[22:15] <andreas> #join server
[22:16] <Pici> nufan: okay, hold on a second, I need to look something up.
[22:16] <cyphase> anyone have any idea why XRandR wouldn't be working after using displayconfig-gtk to configure a dual monitor setup? I get a dialog with this text when I try to run System->Preferences->Screen Resolution:  The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[22:16] <pyrohotdo2> sean_: Yes...but I'm not sure how...
[22:16] <nufan> Pici: everytime I try and do that it says that X is already being used
[22:16] <Some_Person> 7.10 installer SUCKS! IT BROKE MY DISK!
[22:16] <DaveBowman> Pici: fortunately, there's a great feature in firefox that restores all the previous windows :)
[22:16] <pyrohotdo2> Pici: I'm using linuxMint, and don't see Software Sources.
[22:16] <sean_> crimsun_, cool, thanks
[22:16] <cyphase> pyrohotdo2: go into Synaptic, and the repository option
[22:16] <Pici> pyrohotdo2: Then you should be asking in the Linux Mint channel, this is Ubuntu support.
[22:17] <pyrohotdo2> Pici: LinuxMint is basically a shiny ubuntu, my sources.list contains ubuntu repos.
[22:17] <brickbat> so does anyone know if there is a way to revert to the nvidia driver i was using before the update?
[22:17] <sirjoebob> hey. i know this is off-topic... does anyone know of a linux distro that works with neomagic chipsets? i am trying to get an old dell lattitde lm with 64 MB of ram and a 1 GB hard drive up and running--- just because....
[22:18] <sirjoebob> lol
[22:18] <cizarrr> ive back ... who said he need the menu.lst of my grub?
[22:18] <Zaborg> hello all...i have a nice problem ^^ i installed Ubuntu, not really, after Step 1 its like OS not found...who can help me xD
[22:18] <NSM> sirjoebob: freshmeat.org has many small distros.
[22:18] <nilson> ANyone here good with CUPS and/or gutenprint
[22:18] <sirjoebob> nsm, thanks, will check it out
[22:18] <dn4> !pdf
[22:18] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[22:19] <sirjoebob> zeborg, try checking that the cd is valid
[22:19] <dn4> booo
[22:19] <dn4> xpdf ftw
[22:19] <sirjoebob> zeborg, that is all i know
[22:19] <Zaborg> its zaborg xD
[22:19] <Pici> nufan: try this for the missing virtual terminals: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3419199&postcount=16
[22:19] <sirjoebob> zaborg, my bad... need glasses...
[22:19] <Zaborg> CD is ok
[22:19] <MAXDDAR1> wow, this channel is almost twice as big as the Linux channel
[22:19] <Pici> nufan: And then `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` to get your X server setup proprely.
[22:20] <Zaborg> yea it is
[22:20] <DaveBowman> and now my big unresolved issue... How can I get my VAIO Fn keys working? I tried many things that I've found in my google searchs, but nothing seems to work... Does anybody have a sony vaio laptop running Ubuntu?
[22:20] <Zaborg> yes u really need them xD
[22:20] <nilson> My Lexmark X73 successfully printed a test page from CUPS but from other applications will feed the paper and print 2-3 lines then the printer goes offline
[22:20] <nufan> Pici: is that the stuff in the quotes, or including the quotes?
[22:20] <Zaborg> but CD is really OK
[22:21] <nilson> Same problem with IP Printing ove the network, printer starts the job but freezes after a couple of lines and goes offline
[22:21] <MAXDDAR1> excluding the quates
[22:21] <Pici> nufan: without the quotes, I just use them to differentiate commands from normal typing
[22:21] <redhawk07> Hello @ all, I want to upgrade my 7.04 to 7.10 and always get this error message: "Failed to fetch http://www.in.fh-merseburg.de/~jahn/opensync-0.21/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found". Can anybody help me?
[22:21] <MAXDDAR1> but this xserver command is a pain in the Azz
[22:21] <Zaborg> dont forget my problem here ^^
[22:21] <MAXDDAR1> I have tried it, but after the first 20 questions I gave up
[22:22] <vectalix> which pack  do I have to install so as to have Cube function ?
[22:22] <Pici> redhawk07: Remove or at least comment out that custom repository from your sources.list before you upgrade.
[22:22] <Pici> !ccsm | vectalix
[22:22] <ubotu> vectalix: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:23] <nufan> Pici: thanks a bunch, I'll try that
[22:23] <Zaborg> hello all...i have a nice problem ^^ i installed Ubuntu, not really, after Step 1 its like OS not found...who can help me xD replay xD
[22:23] <DaveBowman> wow, ubotu gives very accurate responses...
[22:24] <Zaborg> then.....who can help me xD
[22:25] <AlexUbuntuBcn> Zaborg... do you check the CD?
[22:25] <nikolam> hi. I have a bit of headache with update application after xen install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43053/
[22:25] <MAXDDAR1> does anyone knows IF or when the new ATI drivers will be in the repros or updates at Ubutnu ?
[22:25] <nikolam> how to repair apt-get?
[22:25] <pike_> Zaborg: what is error?
[22:25] <vectalix> Pici,   I have already install it
[22:25] <vectalix> and I activate the plugin and the virtual desktop
[22:26] <AlexUbuntuBcn> the CD has an option for check it
[22:26] <Zaborg> sry wait a sec xD
[22:26] <yabuk> anyone here know a program like kinotech (of macintosh) to ubuntu? (or other program that can show slides, I don't want openoffice)
[22:26] <brickbat> so does anyone know how to rollback the nvidia driver to before todays update?
[22:26] <Zaborg> pike_ error is OS not found
[22:26] <Pici> vectalix: So, whats the issue?
[22:26] <yabuk> maybe 'kinotech' is bed writen
[22:26] <redhawk07> Many thanks to Pici. Now the upgrade runs :-) bye
[22:26] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: You can safely use binary ATI drivers from ati site.
[22:26] <vectalix> so i have a 2d cube lool
[22:26] <vectalix> juste have a square
[22:26] <vectalix> not in 3D
[22:27] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn CD is really ok
[22:27] <pike_> Zaborg: so you did install from livecd rebooted and got os not found?
[22:27] <nikolam> brickbat: Choose Force version from Synaptic?
[22:27] <Pici> vectalix: Change the number of desktops, its somewhere in the general options in ccsm
[22:27] <Zaborg> pike_ no no not from live cd, install cd
[22:27] <vectalix> already done, i put 4
[22:28] <Pici> vectalix: And it still doesnt work?
[22:28] <MAXDDAR1> nikolam : I have tried about 6-8 times , only once I have succeeded  but then managed to ruid it with 2 commands , after tht I had no success
[22:28] <vectalix> yup :(
[22:28] <Pici> vectalix: hold on, let me look at mine
[22:28] <kristjans> pike_ yes that's what happened, but he installed from alternative cd beacuse he has an old computerl
[22:28] <Zaborg> heey xD
[22:29] <Pici> vectalix: Okay, Horizontal Virtual Size: 4, the rest of the options at 1.
[22:29] <harmanny> Hi guys, newbie question: what script do I have to edit to autostart certain things during startup?
[22:29] <faldrien> hey can anyone help me?  after i upgraded to gibbon, my CPU usage has been ~100% constantly.  top doesn't show anything really out of the ordinary,  and I just upgraded my ram by 1gb to see if it would help any
[22:29] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: I use 8.42 from ati site. Didi you instal with next-next finish option?
[22:29] <Pici> harmanny: At boot or login?
[22:29] <Zaborg> pike_ are u still here?
[22:29] <harmanny> Pici: at login
[22:29] <vectalix> ok GOOOD !
[22:29] <MAXDDAR1> mmm..next-next option...?
[22:30] <Pici> !startup | harmanny
[22:30] <ubotu> harmanny: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[22:30] <vectalix> thank you a lot
[22:30] <nikolam> faldrien: Try to use sudo top and try to restart od kill beagle or gam_server or..
[22:30] <Pici> vectalix: no problem :)
[22:30] <MAXDDAR1> I have used this guide : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[22:30] <Jimdb> faldrien:  system>preferences>indexing preferences
[22:31] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn cd is ok
[22:31] <harmanny> Thanks guys !!!
[22:31] <brickbat> nikolam: how can i check the update log to make sure i got all the requied files?
[22:31] <sean_>  http://pastebin.ca/759194
[22:32] <AlexUbuntuBcn> Zaborg... do you use the "alternate CD"?
[22:32] <sean_> I can't see anything here, but something is wrong with my sound
[22:32] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn yes
[22:32] <faldrien>  i disabled the indexing things i'm going to reload my session to see if it helped at all
[22:32] <nikolam> brickbat: Required files for what? Packages have dependencies and they are satisfied automaticaly..
[22:32] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn  I THINK Xd
[22:32] <Pici> !intelhda | sean_
[22:32] <ubotu> sean_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:32] <zengen> Anyone know of a cd catalog application that will index id3 data of mp3s?  The only good one I've found is Jajuk, but I don't really like it.
[22:32] <nufan> Pici: tried that, now what?
[22:33] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn yes yes, im sure
[22:33] <Pici> nufan: restart gdm. `sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart`
[22:33] <kristjans> AlebUbuntBcn, yes he does. he first tried to install an old version of ubuntu (5.10) and it gave the same result
[22:33] <Darkdemun> g
[22:33] <Darkdemun> gg
[22:33] <Darkdemun> gg
[22:33] <Pici> Darkdemun: stop
[22:33] <Darkdemun> stop?
[22:33] <Pici> Darkdemun: with the ggs
[22:33] <Darkdemun> ohk
[22:33] <brickbat> nikolam: when i updated i thought i saw nvidia files there
[22:33] <nufan> Pici: And that should get me a console login?
[22:34] <brickbat> sorry, 2 files
[22:34] <Pici> nufan: That should get you a graphical login.
[22:34] <MAXDDAR1> nikolam : I used this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide , how didi you install your videocard ?
[22:34] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: Try Not to make packages. DEinstall them all and then install ATI binary directly with no making .deb`s..
[22:34] <genii> !helpersnack | pici
[22:34] <ubotu> pici: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[22:34] <AlexUbuntuBcn> Zaborg... sorry, I can't help you... i don't know the installation process...
[22:34] <enyc> w
[22:35] <Zaborg> AlexUbuntuBcn its not alternative. lol
[22:35] <AlexUbuntuBcn> looool
[22:35] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: I Just runed script and installed. I had the same problems with making debs when someone suggested I install driver directly.
[22:35] <AlexUbuntuBcn> xD
[22:35] <MAXDDAR1> nikolam : I also have the ati drivers installed from the add/remoce packages , the older version. do I need to uninstall it before I install the new ones ?
[22:36] <Rumpsteak> ; /me waves!
[22:36] <AcE> -
[22:37] <yasuo> --
[22:37] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: I Think so. That would be advisable to first Remove All ati drivers from system, then Restart, start x with VESA driver (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i command line with ctrl+alt+f1 then install ati drivers then restart)
[22:38] <indian> what is the difference between the cd and dvd version of ubuntu
[22:38] <Pici> indian: The dvd version contains more packages, so you dont have to download them from the internet if you want to install them.
[22:38] <indian> what ae pacages
[22:39] <indian> what are pacages
[22:39] <daaku> anyone know what the kernel-image-virtual package provides that is different than kernel-image-server?
[22:39] <nikolam> indian: Dvd is bigger then cd :)
[22:39] <MAXDDAR1> why does my tab completion doesn't work in this channel ?
[22:39] <ompaul> indian, programs ready to be installed
[22:39] <daaku> also, which kernel image has the tickless support? (or is it a kernel option)
[22:39] <stefg> !software | indian
[22:39] <ubotu> indian: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[22:40] <nikolam> MAXDDAR1: Maybe this channel is possessed with Ubuntu-ghosts :)
[22:40] <masmota> yeah ubuntu is dying, netcraft confirms it...not..
[22:40] <Burdon> blödes ubuntu
[22:40] <MAXDDAR1> nikolam: cool , to many users that start with the first 3-for letters of most nicknames
[22:40] <AndyCR> anyone else having an nvidia card not resume from suspend when running desktop effects?
[22:41] <MAXDDAR1> AndyCR: I hope not ;)
[22:41] <AndyCR> MAXDDAR1: From what I hear it's a driver bug
[22:41] <masmota> andycr:  i've seen a few ppl say that, but havent seen a fix
[22:42] <masmota> <---running ati
[22:42] <AndyCR> I -kind of- have a fix. It's ugly, and I haven't figured out both sides of it, but I have one
[22:42] <Darkdemun> <--- running windows
[22:42] <AndyCR> you edit the suspend file to kill compiz
[22:42] <MAXDDAR1> yeah gibbon has some major problems with Nvidia in this release
[22:42] <AndyCR> All releases have had it for me
[22:42] <humbolto> How would I start an external script from within an ip-up script?
[22:42] <assassyn> anyone knows a good program for task manager client/server?
[22:42] <brickbat> it didnt fix it
[22:42] <pwnt-> is there anyway to see broadcast channel online? I'm looking to watch this. http://www.sopcast.org/player/index.jsp?chURL=sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/10912&chName=ESPN+Sports
[22:43] <masmota> why is it when i change the network settings the graphical way, i have to reboot before it works... anyone else have this problem? i have a laptop and move alot
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> How can I find out whether my hardware supports 64 bit?
[22:43] <cyphase> Anyone have any idea why XRandR or Compiz wouldn't be working after using displayconfig-gtk to configure a dual monitor setup? As far as XRandR, I get a dialog with this text when I try to run System->Preferences->Screen Resolution:  "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available." As for Compiz, if I try to enable it via the Appearance dialog, it says the deskt
[22:44] <cyphase> op affects cannot be enabled/ Any tips?
[22:44] <pike_> masmota: er you should only have to reboot for a kernel upgrade or something.  does sudo ifdown;sudo ifup work after you make changes?
[22:44] <AndyCR> cyphase: Video card?
[22:44] <MAXDDAR1> Odd-rationale: you don't know your hardware ? CPU ?
[22:44] <humbolto> How would I start an external script from within an ip-up script?
[22:44] <howard> im having the worst time updating my nvidia driver.. i have the .run pkg but every time i try nothing
[22:44] <masmota> pike_:  i havent tried that, i've just been doing ifconfig eth0 up ip; route add default gw ip... thanks for the suggestion, i'll check it out
[22:45] <cyphase> AndyCR: but both those things worked out-of-the-box (well, i had to install the nVidia driver for compiz, but it worked)
[22:45] <MAXDDAR1> masmota:  what excact settings ?
[22:45] <phillywhitetrash> anyone here run firefox with a widescreen lcd, i am ready to buy one and was wondering if i will run into problems
[22:45] <Odd-rationale> MAXDDAR1: Not very well. :(
[22:45] <masmota> its different depending on where i go
[22:45] <masmota> but it doesnt seem to matter
[22:45] <masmota> maybe its a wireless thing?
[22:45] <Jimdb> phillywhitetrash:  i run ubuntu/firefox on a 24" widescreen HD LCD
[22:46] <Get0I|> 1102
[22:46] <howard> im having problems with my 24" screen with ubuntu
[22:46] <Darkdemun> i run windows on a 20" CRT monitor
[22:46] <Darkdemun> I WIN
[22:46] <masmota> also i've noticed the wireless wont work unless i take down my wired interface as well
[22:46] <MAXDDAR1> Odd-rationale: what OS you currently use ?
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> If I told you what processor I have, could you tell me?
[22:46] <phillywhitetrash> Jimdb: did you have to change the font size in firefox?
[22:46] <pwnt-> is there anyway to see broadcast channel online? I'm looking to watch this. http://www.sopcast.org/player/index.jsp?chURL=sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/10912&chName=ESPN+Sports
[22:46] <ompaul> Darkdemun, that is offtopic - this is the Ubuntu support channel
[22:46] <ompaul> !offtopic
[22:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> MAXDDAR1: Ubuntu 7.10
[22:47] <phillywhitetrash> what kind of problems
[22:47] <Jimdb> whitetrash:  whether I run windows or ubuntu, whether I run ie or firefox all have the same issue.
[22:47] <howard> i can't update my video driver stuck at 1024x768
[22:47] <Jimdb> you have to alt++ to increase the fontsize  unless you are youthful and can see tiny print on your screen.
[22:48] <Pici> pwnt-: Check their download page, they seem to have a player for Linux (I'm surprised)
[22:48] <phillywhitetrash> how about full screen movies?
[22:48] <MAXDDAR1> Odd-rationale: go to System-preferences-Hardware monitor and tell me your processor
[22:49] <jisatsu> I have compiz enabled, how do I stop windows snapping to the edges of other windows when I move them?
[22:49] <Jimdb> phillywhitetrash:  that's sort of subjective.  wide screen movies on wide screen monitor.  some blocky aspect but generally no issues.
[22:49] <Odd-rationale> MAXDDAR1: Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
[22:49] <phillywhitetrash> k, thanks gonna buy it
[22:49] <MAXDDAR1> Odd-rationale:  you better stick to the 32bit version
[22:50] <Jimdb> phillywhitetrash:  generally no real issues to speak of.  and aside from websites that don't know how to size their page contents to the width of a monitor i'd say the exp is great.
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> MAXDDAR1: Alright! Thanks a lot!!!
[22:50] <phillywhitetrash> thanks
[22:50] <MAXDDAR1> Odd-rationale:  32 version has more support in those days
[22:51] <boontoo> hello, whenever i log in i get really bad colours and everything is pretty much unuseable, but i can log in on Gnome Failsafe fine and it works pretty much normally anyone know the problem? ive tried installing compiz but i removed it all because ugh
[22:51] <ompaul> !resolution | boontoo
[22:51] <ubotu> boontoo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:52] <mcquaid> i'm going to setup my friend with ubuntu tomorrow.  From what I've read so far the mobo is supported, but it has onboard ati x1250
[22:52] <MAXDDAR1> boontoo:  what video driver do you have ?
[22:52] <askand> Why does firefox hang when I open a page with a javaapplet?
[22:52] <askand> Why does firefox hang when I open a page with a javaapplet?
[22:52] <mcquaid> from what I've read it is supported in the latest flgrx 8.42.3 (I'll install via envy I guess)
[22:52] <boontoo> MAXDDAR1: INTEL
[22:52] <ompaul> !re;e
[22:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about re;e - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:52] <ompaul> Le_Fou`Absent,
[22:52] <ompaul> woops type
[22:52] <ompaul> typo
[22:52] <bobbyz> Hi, I've been experiencing some odd behavior with gutsy when I try to reboot or shutdown my laptop.  Usplash shoes the system shutting down, the bar makes it close to the end, and the display goes black and the hard drive spins down.
[22:52]  * Pici gives ompaul new fingers
[22:52] <bobbyz> However, -instantaneously- after the display goes black, it turns bright white and starts "melting" to black from the outside-in.  From this point the only way for me to toally power off the system is by holding down the power button.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[22:53] <mcquaid> i've heard it's ailgx is slow and some issues with movies playing using xv. anyone have any experience with this onboard ati?
[22:53] <ompaul> Pici, thanks
[22:53] <MAXDDAR1> boontoo:  sorry I never use laptops and onboard cards
[22:54] <Sitherae> I just restarted after an update and my screen wont change resolutions
[22:54] <Nalidixic>  Hi everyone. I need some help with getting my project started. Is this a good channel to ask in? I want to use c to send direct hexadecimal commands to my lego NXT. I have the SDK's from lego and just don't know where to start. I have downloaded a library someone else already wrote, but I want to try this on my own aswell. I know how to write in c, just not where to begine
[22:55] <junkbox> I'm new to linux, especially for desktop enviroments.   any one have any tips for learning to use it proficiently?
[22:55] <Sitherae> I just restarted after an update and my screen wont change resolutions
[22:55] <neverblue> junkbox, google ubuntu guide
[22:55] <Jimdb> anyone know of a program that will display .raf files?  they are created by a fuji camera.
[22:55] <neverblue> junkbox, it will get your apps all setup for you
[22:55] <pike_> junkbox: ask alot of questions. read links when people post em
[22:56] <pike_> junkbox: id recommend wiki.ubuntu.com
[22:56] <MAXDDAR1> see you
[22:56] <Sitherae> I just restarted after an update and my screen wont change resolutions
[22:56] <EmasXP> Learning linux is not that hard
[22:57] <EmasXP> After learning some basic commands you can do almost everything
[22:57] <junkbox> ok, thanks  guys
[22:57] <Darkdemun> np
[22:57] <NSM> Sithare:, You don't have any resolution selections except for the current one?
[22:57] <EmasXP> =)
[22:57] <Pici> Jimdb: Are they RAW images?  If so, check out rawstudio.
[22:57] <Darkdemun> <3 helpin ppl
[22:58] <Sitherae> NSM: No I have them but when I try to apply other ones it says it does wit but it really doesn't..
[22:58] <Jimdb> pici:  they are a form of raw, yes
[22:58] <Pici> Jimdb: Try that out, theres also a few raw importers for gimp in the repositories, I dont know their names off the top of my head though.
[22:59] <Sitherae> NSM: When I try to change the resolution with the Nvidia control panel I get this error: Failed to set MetaMode (4) 'CRT-0: 1680x1050 @1680x1050 +0+0' (Mode 1680x1050, id: 53) on X screen 0
[22:59] <Sitherae> Would you like to remove this MetaMode?
[22:59] <Darkdemun> anyone else need halp
[22:59] <brickbat> ok i figured out the problem - its with the linux-restricted modules updates from today
[22:59] <Darkdemun> i told u that -.-
[23:00] <brickbat> me?
[23:00] <virnovus> erm, nice to see so many people using ubuntu :) anyway, i just installed KDE and now my menu is messed up. A lot of apps aren't showing up and the like.  I think it's using an oooold config file.  anyone know how I could get it to reset?
[23:00] <NSM> Sitherae: Have not had that problem.  Seems to be many Nvidia problems on here today.  Someone else would prob. be better suited to assist.
[23:00] <Sitherae> Okay
[23:00] <HairyDude> hmm
[23:00] <Sitherae> Darkdemun: You think you can help me with the problem?
[23:00] <car1584> how make to update my Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10?
[23:00] <Darkdemun> yus
[23:00] <Darkdemun> get windows
[23:00] <Darkdemun> der
[23:00] <HairyDude> is that nvidia problem related to gdm having a really low resolution?
[23:00] <Darkdemun> fixd
[23:00] <Darkdemun> l0l
[23:01] <Sitherae> I have windows on dual boot :)
[23:01] <brickbat> I rolled back the nvidia and the restricted modules and viola
[23:01] <Sitherae> brickbat: Did you have a resolution problem too?
[23:01] <randomwalker> hi, i get this weird message when i try to apt-get install anything:
[23:01] <randomwalker> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[23:01] <randomwalker>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)'
[23:01] <randomwalker> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[23:01] <riotkittie> where's GDM resolution set? is it the default script or... ?
[23:01] <randomwalker> can someone please tell me how to fix this thanks
[23:02] <LjL> randomwalker: either insert the Ubuntu Desktop CD in your drive, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list to make it not look for the CD.
[23:02] <riotkittie> randomwalker: go to System > Administration >  Software sources, uncheck the dsic
[23:02] <Guerra> Hey, anyone remember that feature from GAIM, where you could see when someone closed their chat window with you? Does Pidgin have a plugin or something for that?
[23:02] <riotkittie> errr disc*
[23:02] <Sitherae> Darkdemun: After this update my resolution wont switch
[23:02] <randomwalker> LjL, riotkittie thanks! i actually looked in sources.list but missed the first line lol
[23:04] <virnovus> ok, here's a really easy question: can anyone recommend a good linux P2P file sharing client?
[23:04] <Guerra> Hmm?
[23:04] <Pici> !p2p | virnovus
[23:04] <ubotu> virnovus: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[23:04] <Guerra> Hey, anyone remember that feature from GAIM, where you could see when someone closed their chat window with you? Does Pidgin have a plugin or something for that?
[23:04] <burg> hello. i need some help playing .mp3 on 7.10
[23:04] <virnovus> cool, thanks
[23:05] <Zaborg> how i can install PCLinuxOS2007....i made CD but....oh sorry.nevermind.. CD is wrong xD
[23:05] <Sitherae> After this update my resolutions wont switch...
[23:05] <Pici> Zaborg: Wrong channel too.
[23:06] <Zaborg> Pici xDD
[23:06] <vmlinuz`> hey, anybody have used sp-auth before?
[23:07] <HairyDude> I think you can get rid of that by removing your install cd from the list of repos.
[23:07] <HairyDude> oops
[23:07] <CubeXombi> can someone gimme a hand a breaking a firefox plugin so that i may get it to work correctly.
[23:07] <LordKow> huh?
[23:07] <Guerra> Hey, anyone remember that feature from GAIM, where you could see when someone closed their chat window with you? Does Pidgin have a plugin or something for that?
[23:08] <HairyDude> what an odd question :)
[23:08] <burg> help please
[23:08] <CubeXombi> I know..
[23:08] <LordKow> i can break code easily
[23:08] <LordKow> remove a ;
[23:08] <navets> is there a way to reupgrade the gutsy kernel, like when you upgrade from fiesty to gutsy
[23:08] <LordKow> or a /* or a */
[23:08] <LordKow> :D
[23:08] <Jimdb> pici:  gimp with some plugins was able to read the files and they look spectacular.
[23:08] <ColonelJ> LordKow: change == to =
[23:08] <Pici> Jimdb: Good to hear :)
[23:08] <CubeXombi> hehe..
[23:08] <vmlinuz`> how can I know whats my localhost?
[23:08] <LordKow> hehehe
[23:08] <Pici> vmlinuz`: hostname
[23:08] <LordKow> remove i++ in a while loop
[23:08] <HairyDude> localhost is usually 127.0.0.1
[23:09] <NSM> burg: you didn't specify your problem other than playing mp3's.
[23:09] <neverblue> usually?
[23:09] <LordKow> while(true) { muahahahahah(); }
[23:09] <HairyDude> or ::1 for IPv6
[23:09] <vmlinuz`> Pici: it said on the program, and you can play it on 8908 with VLC or mplayer by open the url: http://localhost:8908/tv.asf
[23:09] <Jimdb> host `hostname`
[23:09] <NSM> burg: what's the error.
[23:09] <DocRohith> Hello everyone. I need some help with hardware compatibility on my vaio vgn sz480 laptop. Please reply if you are available to assist with this issue..
[23:09] <vmlinuz`> Pici: but I really didn't know how. can you direct me, where in VLC it said Open localhost
[23:09] <Buhmanator> does anyone know how to configure sax2 using the command line to use frame buffer mode at 1024x768@60hz?
[23:09] <Pici> vmlinuz`: Thats localhost, I dont know what to tell you.
[23:10] <vmlinuz`> Pici: where can I find my hostname too
[23:10] <LordKow> DocRohith, which component is giving you trouble?
[23:10] <Pici> vmlinuz`: type hostname on the terminal
[23:10] <andreas> #join
[23:10] <CubeXombi> I'm trying to get an HP plugin that was scripted for redhat to install.. I've had to tear apart the scripts to get the files where they "need to go" but just gotta find a way for firefox to handle the links that activate the plugin
[23:10] <ColonelJ> ok I'm new to ubuntu, where is the best place to store projects and stuff?
[23:10] <vmlinuz`> Pici: its "nawaf" my name
[23:10] <brickbat> hmmm i thought it was fixed but apparently not
[23:10] <neverblue> ColonelJ, ~
[23:10] <vmlinuz`> Pici: now where do I open http://nawaf/8908/tv.asf in vlc?
[23:10] <DocRohith> lordkow, i need help with my cingular wireless module
[23:10] <Sitherae> After I updated I cant change my screen resolution..
[23:11] <LordKow> broadband card?
[23:11] <DocRohith> yes
[23:11] <burg> NSM: i just want to play mp3s, but i get an error: need some codecs or something
[23:11] <raintheory> hey guys, any idea if there is a way to have rhythmbox *exclude* certain filetypes?
[23:11] <Pici> pwnt-: File>Open Network stream, then in the http textbox
[23:11] <LordKow> hm, well luck may not be on your side but let me look around
[23:11] <DocRohith> i have looked up a few websites.. already
[23:11] <IndyLucian> Alright, this is an issue that has been bugging me since I started using ubuntu months ago. How do I set the browser control buttons (navigate forward and back) to actually work instead of right-click/left-click
[23:11] <HaMF> Hi
[23:11] <pwnt-> Pici: it says, Unable to open 'http://nawaf/8908/tv.asf'
[23:11] <betamale> Hi, I seem to have a problem booting up my laptop, it seems it's basically bricked
[23:11] <DocRohith> i found a few guys with similar computer.. they had no luck yet
[23:11] <raintheory> burg, check out medibuntu repos
[23:11] <Buhmanator> anyone know how to enable framebuffer on sax2?
[23:12] <Sitherae> Raintheory: Should be in configuration files
[23:12] <Pici> pwnt-: I dont know then.
[23:12] <Pici> pwnt-: What program is telling you to go there?
[23:12] <betamale> this happened after installing hibernate and/or uswsusp
[23:12] <zack> Hey guys - can anyone help me fix video / sound issues on a Compaq F500?
[23:12] <DocRohith> i feel that there is a chance I might be able to install a generic sony ericsson driver. and it will work
[23:12] <raintheory> Sitherae, ...  which are...where?   :)
[23:12] <libero> buntu-it
[23:12] <Sitherae> raintheory: Give me a sec
[23:12] <zack> Everything worked fine in Feisty, but a reinstall to Gutsy broke my sound and I can't install the NVidia drivers.
[23:12] <NSM> burg: use synaptic to search for the appropriate codec.
[23:12] <raintheory> Sitherae, no prob, thx!
[23:13] <betamale> when I bootup in recovery mode, one of the last messages I see is "orphan cleanup on readonly fs", and then it hangs - I can't even seem to boot from the ubuntu setup CD
[23:13] <burg> searched for something, but said it depends on something that can not be found to install
[23:13] <LordKow> DocRohith, Im gathering you're exact issue is that ubuntu is not using it?
[23:13] <burg> i`m newbie, first time i use ubuntu, second time i use linux (used suse for 3 days before)
[23:13] <NSM> burg: prob. going to be GStreamer extra plugins.
[23:13] <raintheory> burg, i think you can just do add/remove and look for ubuntu-restricted-extras  ...  be sure to uncomment the lines in yr /etc/apt/sources.list file
[23:14] <betamale> does anyone have any suggestions for my bricked laptop? is there a way to escape to the shell on bootup or something?
[23:14] <DocRohith> yes
[23:14] <Sitherae> raitheory: I dont know. Cant find it.
[23:14] <pwnt-> Pici: okay i'm trying to open a free streaming online, to see a match on espn tv, I went here and I couldn't watch it. http://www.sopcast.org/player/index.jsp?chURL=sop://broker1.sopcast.com:3912/10912&chName=ESPN+Sports# --- Then after that I went to http://www.sopcast.org/download/ to download the client and there were a program for linux there. Called sp-auth or something, I downloaded the file.tgz and tried to figure out how it work with no success
[23:14] <Sitherae> raintheory: Sory
[23:15] <raintheory> ?
[23:15] <raintheory> okay
[23:15] <pwnt-> Pici: SopCast 1.0.2 for linux
[23:16] <bobbyz> Hi, I've been experiencing some odd behavior with gutsy when I try to reboot or shutdown my laptop.  Usplash shoes the system shutting down, the bar makes it close to the end, and the display goes black and the hard drive spins down.
[23:16] <bobbyz> However, -instantaneously- after the display goes black, it turns bright white and starts "melting" to black from the outside-in.  From this point the only way for me to toally power off the system is by holding down the power button.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[23:16] <raintheory> Sitherae, thanks anyway.  The problem I'm having is that Rhythmbox keeps picking up the .txt, .jpg, etc files in my music folders and listing errors
[23:16] <burg> searched for ubuntu-restricted-extras in add/remove, but could not install
[23:16] <raintheory> takes ages because of this (i have a large music library), and I was just trying to avoid these headaches
[23:17] <raintheory> burg, 1 sec...  lemme see
[23:17] <NSM> burg: will prob. need to change show: to All available applications.
[23:17] <raintheory> NSM, burg ...   you got it
[23:18] <raintheory> burg, did you edit yr /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the extra repos?
[23:18] <Kolb> Hi, when I suspend my laptop and then resume it at a different location, Network Manager cannot find the new local network, all wireless connectivity is broken, and the NM applet takes up ~100% CPU.  Does anyone know what might be the cause of this?
[23:18] <rredd4> is it possible to have different desktop pictures in each workspace in gnome via gutsy
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> This probably been asked before, but what is special about the Ubuntu Gutsy DVD? Does it have both the text installer and liveCD?
[23:18] <burg> no
[23:19] <raintheory> burg, no what?
[23:19] <Trolllo99> hi. does anybody know, how to mount a crypted usb-hdd on ubntu 7.10?
[23:19] <burg> i didn`t edit that
[23:19] <raintheory> ahh, well run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    & uncomment the commented repos & save
[23:20] <yasuo> Trolllo99: what sxactly is your Question
[23:20] <raintheory> burg, then run sudo apt-get update
[23:20] <danb> anyone here set up xen on ubuntu gutsy using aptitude?
[23:21] <raintheory> burg, then i think you can just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras      -from there as well
[23:21] <yasuo> "crypted drive" can be cryptoloop, dm_crypt, treucrypt or some windows-program etc.
[23:21] <burg> how to uncomment the commented repos?
[23:21] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: i can't mount a harddisk with truecrypt .
[23:21] <raintheory> delete the ##'s in front of the repos
[23:21] <burg> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:22] <raintheory> burg, the ones that have them anyway
[23:22] <yasuo> Trolllo99: why cant you
[23:22] <Pici> pwnt-: It worked for me.  Make sure that you change 6098 in `./sp-sc-auth sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/6098 3908 8908 > /dev/null &` to the ID of the channel you want to watch.
[23:22] <Trolllo99> that is the question, i dont know how.
[23:22] <Trolllo99> @yasuo
[23:22] <raintheory> burg ..  1 sec
[23:22] <yasuo> Trolllo99: then how did you encrypt the drive ^
[23:23] <Trolllo99> with windows xp ^ ^
[23:23] <Nalidixic> where can I find the bluetooth api source files included with ubuntu?
[23:23] <yasuo> Trolllo99: ok first you have to install truecrypt - did you?
[23:23] <Gishaust> hello
[23:23] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: yes
[23:23] <raintheory> burg, paste the contents of yr sources.list file here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   and send me the link
[23:23] <c0Ld> Has anyone gotten the linux version of SOF2 to work on Ubuntu?
[23:23] <masmota> anyone found a way to turn off Thumbs.db generation? (aside from disabling previews)
[23:23] <tyoc> ey people, how do I test easy my microphone??
[23:23] <c0Ld> I can't get it to install
[23:24] <NSM> raintheory: fyi... i added that package from add/remove w/o editing sources.list.
[23:24] <yasuo> Trolllo99: now have a look at your disk drives and pick your usb-hdd: ls/dev/disk/by-id/
[23:24] <yasuo> Trolllo99: something like usb_samsung_blabla-part1 should appear
[23:24] <FreeAtMind> hello
[23:24] <FreeAtMind> someone know if are problems in add repo from debian on ubuntu??
[23:24] <raintheory> NSM, hmm
[23:24] <pwnt-> Pici: yes I did that man
[23:24] <NSM> raintheory: is the edit needed?
[23:24] <Gishaust> can anyone tell me about pda software. evolution doesn't like my pda
[23:24] <Pici> pwnt-: And? It still doesnt work?
[23:24] <pwnt-> Pici: didn't work for me :( I changed it to the channel I want to see. but then my http://nawaf didnt work. my localhost doesn't work. do I need something to run so that I make my http://localhost work?
[23:24] <raintheory> NSM, possibly...   if thhere was no internet connection during install it automatically comments out some repos i think
[23:25] <yasuo> Trolllo99: is the filesystem ntfs?
[23:25] <Trolllo99> there is a bash error...
[23:25] <ColonelJ> ok, how do you run a program from shell?
[23:25] <inversekinetix> why does Mplayer user 20% of a quad core cpu to play an mp3?
[23:25] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: yes.
[23:25] <raintheory> NSM, so some that you may have had uncommented by default may be commented
[23:25] <yasuo> Trolllo99: well use your brain before just copypaste
[23:25] <NSM> raintheory: ahhh, K, my install hung until I established my connection sooooo.  Thanks
[23:25] <c0Ld> Has anyone gotten the linux version of SOF2 to work on Ubuntu? I can't get it to install -- I get an error setup.sh: 9: function: not found
[23:25] <c0Ld> x86
[23:25] <c0Ld> "saying "
[23:25] <Pici> pwnt-: Try using channel 6001, that worked here, (but not another random channel I picked)
[23:25] <burg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43057/
[23:25] <tyoc> or is there a application that will test the microphone input??
[23:25] <yasuo> ls is the command and /dev/bla the paremeter
[23:25] <pwnt-> Pici: is that ESPN?
[23:25] <masmota> tyoc:  sound recorder?
[23:25] <killahh> !video
[23:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[23:25] <tyoc> some like that
[23:25] <Pici> pwnt-: no.
[23:26] <yasuo> so you need a whitespace beetween ls and the parameter
[23:26] <pwnt-> Pici: try 10912 <-- its espn, see if it work for you
[23:26] <tyoc> but I need to know if it is already working masmota
[23:26] <raintheory> burg 1 sec
[23:26] <masmota> tyoc:  cant u just open sound recorder, and test it?
[23:26] <minus> Is it possible to change the size of these icons: http://segra007.thg.se/files/nautilusiconsbig.png that are in the main bar of nautilus. ?
[23:26] <tyoc> it doesnt work
[23:27] <Pici> pwnt-: no, htat doesnt work.
[23:27] <tyoc> masmota: when I hit play after "recording" there is no sound
[23:27] <tyoc> masmota: thus I think micro isnt working
[23:27] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: well, sorry, i had tried to work with linux for a week. what shall i do? :/
[23:27] <masmota> is your mic muted? ...check the volume settings on the tray?
[23:27] <betamale> my laptop even hangs when I boot from the Ubuntu setup CD, with the same messages:
[23:27] <betamale> "recovery required on readonly filesystem"
[23:27] <betamale> "orphan cleaup on readonly fs"
[23:27] <pwnt-> Pici: hmm, Ok but why it tell me unable to open page when i try http://mylocalhost
[23:27] <Joe_CoT> hey, people are asking me about that laptop hard drive bug. What command do i run to test, and what exactly am i looking for?
[23:27] <Pici> pwnt-: It tells me the same thing if I use that channel.
[23:27] <betamale> does anyone have any suggestions of how to even get to the shell from this state?
[23:27] <yasuo> list the files in the directory /dev/disk/by-id with the program ls:    ls /dev/disk/by-id/
[23:27] <Pici> !hdbug | Joe_CoT try mjg's link here
[23:27] <ubotu> Joe_CoT try mjg's link here: Ubuntu does *not* modify the settings that affect HD lifespans by default. An analysis from an Ubuntu Technical Board member and ACPI expert can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77672.html (See https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html and http://tinyurl.com/2vyrft for more information)
[23:27] <pwnt-> Pici: ok sec
[23:28] <hairulfr> betamale: Boot windows and close it down properly, I think
[23:28] <yasuo> Trolllo99:
[23:28] <pwnt-> Pici: ./sp-sc-auth sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/6001 3908 8908 > /dev/null &
[23:28] <pwnt-> Pici: like that right?
[23:28] <tyoc> masmota: I have: front mic, line in, and microphpone
[23:28] <Pici> Joe_CoT: or the other links too, they have useful information.
[23:28] <masmota> tyoc:  none are muted?
[23:28] <betamale> hairulfr: close it down properly?
[23:28] <Viper550> excuse me, are there any GTK engines that are very popular right now?
[23:28] <tyoc> masmota: all 3 are at high position
[23:28] <tyoc> and without the cross
[23:28] <Pici> pwnt-: yes.
[23:28] <tyoc> masmota: yea, none muted
[23:28] <sect> Joe_CoT try sudo smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda|grep 193
[23:28] <betamale> hairulfr: I just booted windows to see if that still works, and properly shut it down from there
[23:28] <Pici> pwnt-: you might have to do `killall sp-sc-auth` beforehand though
[23:29] <Kolb> Hi, when I suspend my laptop and then resume it at a different location, Network Manager cannot find the new local network, all wireless connectivity is broken, and the NM applet takes up ~100% CPU.  Does anyone know what might be the cause of this?
[23:29] <raintheory> burg ..  here you go... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43058/      paste that in place of yours and then save file and $: sudo apt-get update
[23:29] <Stoffer> out of all the moving parts that start up when you turn on a desktop PC, which one takes a few seconds to start moving?  I"m trying to figure out what's making a vibrating noise that takes a few knocks to stop...
[23:29] <pwnt-> Pici: ok done. now it said in terminal for me (    [3] 28619
[23:29] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: wait a second
[23:29] <pwnt-> Pici: now, how do i run that in vlc
[23:29] <masmota> tyoc: should be working then...theres not a mute button on the mic, right?  thats the only thing i can think of
[23:30] <raintheory> burg, then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:30] <HaMF> I'd like to create a little script that listens for a dbus-message and calls a function then. Is this possible with just a shell script or do i need phyton (e.g.) for it?
[23:30] <tyoc> masmota: yea, in the list of recording are like 5 options
[23:30] <burg> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[23:30] <hairulfr> betamale: Weird, run some sort of disk diagnostic? I've installed on very very freaky drives, hmm always without problems.
[23:30] <olive> hello. no way to manage mount points with graphical interface in ubuntu gutsy ?
[23:30] <Pici> pwnt-: file>open network stream: localhost:8908 in the http/https/ftp/mms box
[23:30] <tyoc> masmota: digital, mic boost, front mic boost, etc
[23:30] <pwnt-> Pici: oh worked just fine, thanks man
[23:30] <pwnt-> now i need espn lol :P
[23:30] <Pici> pwnt-: sure thing.
[23:30] <Nap_95> Heil
[23:31] <raintheory> burg, what happened is for some reason during install ubuntu could not verify it's repos so it automatically diabled them by commenting them out (probably no internet connection during initial install)
[23:31] <tyoc> masmota: or you know of a link htat I can give a try?
[23:31] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: ok, got it
[23:31] <pwnt-> Pici: thats chinese channel? lol
[23:31] <betamale> hairulfr: thanks, I'll try some disk diagnostics. this started with uswsusp/hibernate though, on a system that worked before...
[23:31] <cooper892> I've popped in the Gusty Gibbon Live Cd, and everything has been going smoothly until...You guessed it, partitioning. I'm too scared to press anything right now. I want to dual boot with vista and I have about 12 GB of free space on an 80gb hard drive. I've gotten up to the partition window and can only choose manual and I have no clue what to do next, help!
[23:31] <cooper892> /dev/sda
[23:31] <cooper892>    /dev/sda1   fat16   /media/sda1   41mb        33mb
[23:31] <cooper892>    /dev/sda2   fat16   /media/sda2   79979mb   unknown
[23:31] <cooper892>    free space                                    8mb
[23:31] <elninja> When I move my finger across the bottom portion of my touchpad, it goes forward/backward in Firefox. How do I set it to just move the mouse left/right?
[23:31] <Pici> pwnt-: /me shrugs
[23:31] <pwnt-> Pici: do you experience a lag if that thing is running?
[23:31] <Pici> cooper892: Please use a pastebin next time.
[23:31] <betamale> i have a backup, but can't restore it without shell access...
[23:31] <Trolllo99> @yasuo, what shall i do next?
[23:31] <yasuo> Trolllo99: now pick your usb-dribe out od the list and copy it
[23:31] <cooper892> sorry
[23:31] <HaMF> to be more concrete: i'd like to "extend" the mail-notification of evolution. the target is just to write an string to a file as soon as a new mail arrives
[23:31] <Pici> pwnt-: Yes, your computer will be downloading from that website constantly.
[23:32] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: done
[23:32] <masmota> tyoc:  sure dont... and im on my laptop now w/ no mic available to try it..
[23:32] <pwnt-> Pici: how to minimum that lag? Can i change the numbers or something in the command?
[23:33] <Pici> pwnt-: I really dont know, you could look into the program trickle, its in the repos, but that might not work properly.
[23:33] <yasuo> Trolllo99: now mount it using truecrypt
[23:33] <tyoc> masmota: I have added other controls to the list...
[23:34] <yasuo> Trolllo99: truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/yourusbdribve-part1 /mnt
[23:34] <tyoc> now when recording I only listen mess, not my voice
[23:34] <pwnt-> Pici: what program?
[23:34] <Pici> pwnt-: trickle
[23:34] <tyoc> masmota: at less that is a step toward listen my voice :)
[23:34] <pwnt-> Pici: is it same as sp-auth?
[23:34] <hairulfr> cooper: It's quite easy, but I recommend you partitioning from windows if you are unsure what to do. But if you just chose the partition you need, split it in to, one for home and one for /, you should be good :)
[23:34] <yasuo> Trolllo99: maybe you need to install ntfs-3g to get write-support and maybe you will have to gie the filesystem type as parameter
[23:34] <Pici> pwnt-: no, its a program to control bandwidth usage of other programs,
[23:34] <xeer> hi everyone. vncviewer isn't positioning my mouse correctly. i'd expect the black square that represents the system cursor to be at the same region the remote computer has the cursor.
[23:35] <yasuo>      --filesystem TYPE               Filesystem type
[23:35] <||drake||> alright, I'm on a live session now because I can no longer boot into ubuntu at all
[23:35] <yasuo> Trolllo99: truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/yourusbdribve-part1 /mnt --filesystem ntfs
[23:35] <||drake||> who's willing to help me out?
[23:35] <yasuo> Trolllo99: when it works install ntfs-3g and replace "ntfs" with ntfs-3g
[23:35] <||drake||> sorry... questions still stands
[23:36] <betamale> ||drake||: at least you can get to a live session:(
[23:36] <euxneks> ||drake||: post what you're having troubles with and whoever knows will answer
[23:36] <hairulfr> ||drake||: What is the problem?
[23:36] <euxneks> I'm pretty sure everyone here is helpful
[23:36] <tinman47> Can anybody help on a Bash script?
[23:36] <yasuo> tinman47: #bash
[23:36] <raintheory> burg, still with me here?
[23:36] <||drake||> well... when I choose Ubuntu from teh grub menu, it goes to the splash screen, loads, but then cuts to a blank screen with a flashing underscore
[23:36] <Trolllo99> @yasuo:  truecrypt SigmaTel_MSCN_23DE74D45830D8F-0:0 /mnt
[23:36] <Trolllo99> Cannot open volume: No such file or directory
[23:37] <burg> yes
[23:37] <tinman47> Yeah Im on it. There not answering my questions.
[23:37] <Trolllo99> whats wrong?
[23:37] <||drake||> after a while, i can ctrl-alt-F1 into a login session/terminal/etc, but I can't startx or anything
[23:37] <raintheory> burg, any luck?
[23:37] <Trolllo99> @yasuo
[23:37] <burg> it`s working, i guess
[23:37] <euxneks> ||drake||: might be a misconfiguration in the xorg.conf
[23:37] <Buhmanator> framebuffer mode? does anyone know how to enable it in sax2?
[23:37] <yasuo> Trolllo99: erm can you post what you entered? the treucrypt-command...
[23:37] <raintheory> burg, you guess?
[23:37] <Pici> Buhmanator: Whats sax2?
[23:37] <||drake||> i already sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:37] <hairulfr> ||drake||:Then ubuntu starts, what did you do to break x?
[23:38] <euxneks> hairulfr: hah
[23:38] <tinman47> Help on a Bash script. Please?
[23:38] <raintheory> burg, is it still doing an install?
[23:38] <betamale> hairulfr: do you have any suggestions on alternative "live" cds that I could try?
[23:38] <||drake||> and i literally changed nothing... i'm 99% sure it's not an issue with X
[23:38] <euxneks> hrm
[23:38] <yasuo> tinman47: just ask your question, ask it exact and consider visiting #bash and reading google and the manpage
[23:38] <euxneks> it _really_ sounds like some sort of display problem ||drake||
[23:38] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: Me@comp:~$ truecrypt SigmaTel_MSCN_23DE746D45830D8F-0:0 /mnt
[23:38] <Buhmanator> Pici: A popular xorg configuration program
[23:39] <hairulfr> betamale: For partitioning?
[23:39] <pwnt-> Pici: yay my channel worked, but the stream isnt very good. I think cause my internet connection is poor. :( if you like pool watch the espn channel, its 10912
[23:39]  * genii puts on a pot of coffee
[23:39] <||drake||> euxneks: this i know... which is why i hate having to answer the question that way... lemme send you some more error messages it comes up with
[23:39] <genii> !ping
[23:39] <ubotu> pong
[23:39] <pwnt-> Pici: awesome match, alcano vs soquoet
[23:39] <yasuo> Trolllo99: the sigmatel sounds suspicious - are you sure that file exists in /dev/disk/by-id?
[23:39] <Buhmanator> Pici: and I'm not talking about the small api for xml if you google it, thats completly different
[23:39] <Kolb> Is anyone experiencing trouble with Network Manager after bringing their computer out of suspend-mode?
[23:39] <Pici> Buhmanator: On Ubuntu?
[23:39] <Buhmanator> Pici: no, suse
[23:39]  * euxneks tries to remember where the xorg error log is
[23:39] <betamale> hairulfr: anything that could get me to do some diagnostics, inspect fstab, etc.
[23:40] <Pici> Buhmanator: This is the Ubuntu Support channel, perhaps try #suse
[23:40] <raintheory> Buhmanator, no "Sue-SAY" :oP
[23:40] <yasuo> Trolllo99: you have to find the file pointing to your isb-hdd first
[23:40] <Buhmanator> i have that channel open
[23:40] <Pici> Buhmanator: Okay, then why are you asking here?
[23:40] <||drake||> euxneks: http://pastebin.com/m6d203005
[23:40] <tinman47> Well...Okay. I am prototyping a scripting language, and I made a few commands and functions, and well, I cannot use the "if" command in functions, and it will not take parameters, why?
[23:40] <Buhmanator> Because I figured people here might use sax2? possibly?
[23:40] <Pici> Buhmanator: No, we don't, its not even an available package in our software repositories.
[23:41] <||drake||> euxneks: the xorg error log is at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[23:41] <hairulfr> betamale: gparted livecd is quite good, i've used that,
[23:41] <Trolllo99> @ok my fault, i got the wrong one, but th same problem with the correct one
[23:41] <||drake||> euxneks: it reports no errors, which is one of the many many reason's im pretty sure it's not an xorg.conf problem
[23:41] <yasuo> tinman47: rtfm maybe you did not use the if-loop and forgot to end another if-loop woth fi
[23:41] <Buhmanator> so how about enabling it directly with xorg
[23:41] <Buhmanator> (don't tell me you guys don't use xorg)
[23:41] <sdadds272> I just got a recent problem with my 7.10 ubuntu.. I just plugged out my TP cable, and when I plugged it back in I pretty much couldn't get on the net
[23:42] <inversekinetix> how do you set file associations?
[23:42] <sdadds272> neither can I ping anyone except for myself
[23:42] <tinman47> Oh...s*** your right. Forgot about that.
[23:42] <euxneks> ||drake||: looks like there is a formatting problem on your blacklist file
[23:42] <Pici> Buhmanator: I can't help you because I dont know anything about the way that suse does things. and yes, we use Xorg.
[23:42] <yasuo> Trolllo99: please post your new command
[23:42] <euxneks> line 28
[23:42] <betamale> If I am somehow able to boot, would it be possible to uninstall hibernate/uswsusp (not sure which one is installed, but seems to be the cause)? that is, assuming the partitions isn't completely foobarred.
[23:42] <euxneks> ||drake||: do you use vi?
[23:42] <mcquaid> ok basic retarted question.  when dealing with amd64, you don't actually have to install the x64 version right? amd64 is backwards compatible with x86 correct?
[23:42] <euxneks> mcquaid: true
[23:42] <riotkittie> mcquaid: true
[23:43] <yasuo> ACK
[23:43] <Buhmanator> Pici: its not like its completly different, you should still configure xorg the same way (when configuring the config file)
[23:43] <Trolllo99> me@cmp:~$ truecrypt Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1 /mnt
[23:43] <mcquaid> k
[23:43] <olive> sorry to insist but it's to be sure of my information :
[23:43] <Trolllo99> @yasuo
[23:43] <olive> no way to manage mount points with graphical interface in ubuntu gutsy ?
[23:43] <||drake||> euxneks: i've blacklisted ubuntu's default driver for my webcam is all... it didn't have any effect on booting for a good two weeks or so
[23:43] <sdadds272> I just got a recent problem with my 7.10 ubuntu.. I just plugged out my TP cable, and when I plugged it back in I pretty much couldn't get on the net, neither can I ping anyone but myself
[23:43] <euxneks> ||drake||: try removing the offending line and booting again... ?
[23:43] <yasuo> Trolllo99: wekll you have to enter the full path if the file
[23:43] <euxneks> ||drake||: or, better yet, commenting it out
[23:43] <yasuo> of
[23:44] <mcquaid> anyone have an ati x1250?  I'm going to install ubuntu for a friend tomorrow and just trying to investigate possible gotchas.  Should I use envy to get latest driver? I read some posts on xv not working for video...
[23:44] <_Jojo_> Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD does not start here... CD is OK, starts on other puters, the loader even plays the start sound (so this should be it should be almost finished, right?), but the screen stays black - any possible help?
[23:44] <euxneks> ||drake||: that's probably what I would try anyway, other than that you'd have to ask someone else with more knowledge about the system =P
[23:44] <Pici> Buhmanator: It is, there are different modules, different kernels, lots of different things that are not the same.  Sure, they're both linux, but should I go into #suse and start asking about my Ubuntu problems? Try ##linux if you're looking for a more general channel.
[23:45] <yasuo> mcquaid: after 6 months i solved ANY ati-problems by buying an nvidia-card ^^
[23:45] <riotkittie> mcquaid: never ever ever ever ever ever envy. use the restricted drivers thingie.
[23:45] <euxneks> although
[23:45] <euxneks> ||drake||: that's only a warning so it shouldn't be a problem
[23:45] <mcquaid> yasuo my advice as well
[23:45] <raintheory> i have a question now...   with compiz enabled, are your applications taskbar entries *supposed* to show on *every* seperate desktop?
[23:45] <yasuo> i rly rly rly tried 10 howtos in ubuntuforums but did not get 3d to run
[23:46] <mcquaid> riotkittie, ya normally i wouldn't use envy. never have personally.  but I read about the latest ati drivers having aiglx support and then I saw a guide on installing them. yesh all the hoops you have to jump through
[23:46] <||drake||> euxneks: coincindentally... it's no longer on my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist i wonder where it went? clearly it must still be there
[23:46] <sdadds272> I just got a recent problem with my 7.10 ubuntu.. I just plugged out my TP cable, and when I plugged it back in I pretty much couldn't get on the net, neither can I ping anyone but myself. Any ideas how to fix this? I've done some common trouble shooting but it havent come up with any interesting info worth to note.
[23:46] <raintheory> in other words, i open terminal in desk 1, but the taskbar entry shows on every other desk as well
[23:46] <riotkittie> raintheory: im nto sure what the default behavior is but if  you have issues with that you can change it easily
[23:46] <Trolllo99> me@cmpp:~$ truecrypt usb-Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1 /mnt smt like this?
[23:46] <riotkittie> in window list preferences, or whatever
[23:46] <raintheory> riotkittie, somewhere under advanced desktop settings i presume?
[23:46] <Trolllo99> @yasuo
[23:47]  * riotkittie hugs the opensource ati driver
[23:47] <yasuo> Trolllo99: truecrypt does not know where the file usb-Seagate.... is
[23:47] <chesterm> Good night at all
[23:47] <chesterm> !
[23:47] <riotkittie> raintheory: no. look on that panel itself. uhmm. like maybe right between the show desktop icon and the window list
[23:48] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: how can i find it?
[23:48] <chesterm> i need an help if anybody can
[23:48] <chesterm> excuse my bad english, but i'm portuguese
[23:48] <yasuo> truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/usb.....bla /mnt @ Trolllo99
[23:48] <riotkittie> raintheory: there should be an empty space or a bar there that you can check
[23:48] <Buhmanator> PICI: I just got the magic formula, finally, it is: "sax2 -m 0=fbdev"
[23:48] <riotkittie> what do you need help with, chesterm ?
[23:49] <yasuo> Trolllo99: in unix and linux everything is a file and a file doe salways ave a location
[23:49] <raintheory> riotkittie, well that interesting, under properties there it has "show windows from current workspace" selected
[23:49] <chesterm> i have a wireless pci card, in ubuntu 7.04 worked perfectly, in 7.10 no
[23:49] <raintheory> so it shouldnt be doing what it's doing i guess
[23:49] <chesterm> it is detected, but don't indentify my wireless network
[23:49] <chesterm> :s
[23:50] <euxneks> ||drake||: beyond that I haven't a clue
[23:50] <chesterm> can you help me riotkittie?
[23:50] <Kamuflada>  /NickServ IDENTIFY pccp2007
[23:50] <euxneks> woah
[23:50] <euxneks> Kamuflada haha
[23:50] <Kamuflada> -NickServ- The nickname [Kamuflada] is not registered
[23:50] <riotkittie> chesterm: i am really bad with networking/wireless, sorry. someone here should have an answer though
[23:51] <euxneks> haha yasuo
[23:51] <chesterm> hmm
[23:51] <raintheory> riotkittie, i changed it to the other one and back again and no difference
[23:51] <chesterm> thanks riotkittie :)
[23:51] <yasuo> that sure was a honeypuot by the ircops :D
[23:51] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: Cannot read volume header: Is a directory
[23:51] <chesterm> anybody could help me please??
[23:51] <wirechief_> chesterm did you try the configuring the network and giving your essid to it?
[23:51] <riotkittie> raintheory:  ooh, that's weird. :|  i have no clue why it isnt working.
[23:51] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: after i entered te passwort
[23:51] <riotkittie> ugh. im back down to one eye, so away i go
[23:52] <yasuo> Trolllo99: well dont enter a directory and dont enter a file => enter directory AND file!111111111111111111111
[23:52] <chesterm> wirechief_: yes
[23:52] <yasuo> /path/to/file
[23:52] <wirechief_> chesterm: did you use the icon on the lower right hand side ?
[23:52] <chesterm> i tried to put essid, ip, gateway...but nothing :S
[23:52] <yasuo> not /path/to and not file and not "/path/to/ file" just "/path/to/file"
[23:53] <chesterm> wirechief, i didn't understand sorry :p
[23:53] <wirechief_> i think you click on it and then select youre essid
[23:53] <chesterm> oh...nothing appears :p
[23:53] <Trolllo99> @ i just did what you said
[23:53] <chesterm> that is the problem
[23:53] <Trolllo99> :'(
[23:53] <Dreamer_> hi there, does anyone know of a ubuntu commandline (server) screensaver ?
[23:53] <wirechief_> chesterm: like double click it
[23:54] <yasuo> truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1 /mnt
[23:54] <wirechief_> it will say something about other networks
[23:54] <yasuo> truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1 /mnt --filesystem ntfs
[23:54] <raintheory> riotkittie, whats even more interesting is if i click on the workspace in the workspace switcher, this doesnt happen...   but if i ctrl-alt left/right or scrollwheel it does
[23:54] <Nelson101> Hi!
[23:54] <yasuo> ho
[23:54] <Dreamer_> no command line screensavers ?
[23:55] <Dreamer_> anyone ?
[23:55] <ikonia> Dreamer_: screensavers are X11
[23:55] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: Cannot read volume header: Input/output error
[23:55] <yasuo> Dreamer_: create one ^ yes tehre are command lien screensavers
[23:55] <euxneks> Dreamer_: you could make your own
[23:56] <Dreamer_> oh cool, pint me to where I can find info about this?
[23:56] <Dreamer_> point me even =)
[23:56] <yasuo> dont remember apt-cache search
[23:56]  * Rabiddog loads firefox and yelps, uggh another update 2.0.9 at your service. :/
[23:56] <slvmchn> is gutsy 7.10?
[23:56] <riotkittie> slvmchn: yes
[23:56] <chesterm> does anybody help me??
[23:56] <slvmchn> cool
[23:57] <ikonia> Dreamer_ its part of gnome
[23:57] <Trolllo99> @ what you mean?
[23:57] <Dreamer_> I'll see if I can find some info
[23:57]  * riotkittie is trying to figure out how she got a dir named "file:" in ~ mirroring /home 
[23:57] <Dreamer_> thanks for the tip
[23:57] <yasuo> Trolllo99: what exactly did you enter
[23:58] <countercs> Hi guys I open my laptop and input any user name and password so I wont let my cousin use it. I told them i forgot the password. Then I put in the real user and pass and it doesnt work. What is going on.
[23:58] <mcquaid> hmm, there was just an update to compiz and I was hoping it would solve this problem.  when I run GL desktop (gnome-compiz-preferences) the drive grinds away for a minute but does nothing
[23:58] <redheat> hi everyone
[23:58] <chesterm> hi
[23:58] <mcquaid> if I launch it again, two instances come up.  and settings won't stick
[23:58] <mcquaid> do others have this?
[23:58] <jareno1818>  Hey
[23:58] <wirechief_> chesterm check pm
[23:58] <yasuo> Trolllo99: what does "ls -lha /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1" say?
[23:58] <redheat> one quick question..is there a version of Ubuntu for the Cell Processor coming out soon
[23:58] <redheat> ?
[23:58] <zanovetak> how to give restricted ssh access to users that log on?
[23:58] <jareno1818>  hi
[23:59] <jareno1818>  hi
[23:59] <jareno1818>  hi
[23:59] <jareno1818>  hi
[23:59] <jareno1818>  
[23:59] <redheat> hi
[23:59] <jareno1818>  
[23:59] <Pici> jareno1818: stop
[23:59]  * Rabiddog thinks compiz is a tad unstable with nvidia drivers, makes screen rez go hairy for a split sec when moving to another desktop on the cube
[23:59] <wirechief_> chesterm check pm
[23:59] <genii> countercs: After 3 failed attempts it will lock you out for a short period of time
[23:59] <chesterm> wirechief_ just an hello appears :p
[23:59] <chrissy> how do i fix this gnome error ?
[23:59] <riotkittie> compiz is a tad unstable with just about, well anything
[23:59] <jareno1818>  hihi
[23:59] <chesterm> did you write anything more?
[23:59] <chesterm> :p
[23:59] <redheat> so anyone..
[23:59] <Pici> wirechief_: You both must be registed on Freenode to send pms
[23:59] <wirechief_> chesterm: need to do some chatting on it.
[23:59] <countercs> genii how long should i wait
[23:59] <Trolllo99> @yasuo: truecrypt /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Seagate_FreeAgentDesktop_9QG2DPJM-0:0-part1 /mnt --filesystem ntfs
[23:59] <mcquaid> can someone humour me and just tell me if GL desktop launches fine for them?