[00:00] <kubuntunewbie> TheSayers: i HATE kopete, i would "sudo apt-get remove kopete; sudo apt-get install pidgin"
[00:00] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: what kind of smartphone are u workin with?
[00:00] <TheSayers> kubuntunewbie: does not change the fact it crashes :)
[00:00] <kubuntunewbie> TheSayers: wow, cant help u there.
[00:00] <kubuntunewbie> TheSayers: u cant use pidgin either?
[00:00] <DaSkreech> kubuntunewbie: Sure do that
[00:00] <supert0nes> mmm pidgin
[00:01] <FUD> HTC STRTRK, aka Cingular 3125
[00:01] <family> hello
[00:01] <TheSayers> I can use pidgin but if it is shipped as 'stable' and doesnt work their is a problem...
[00:01] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: it runs WM5
[00:01] <supert0nes> if only it could dock
[00:01] <DaSkreech> TheSayers: run it from the command line it should give you a error when it crashes
[00:01] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: it porbably does not help anything that the 3125 is built on windows techmology
[00:01] <DaSkreech> !info krecipes
[00:01] <ubotu> krecipes: recipes manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0~beta1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 2320 kB
[00:01] <TheSayers> DaSkreech: it crashes X beyond restartable
[00:02] <DaSkreech> woah
[00:02] <DaSkreech> TheSayers: reproducable ?
[00:02] <TheSayers> DaSkreech: It's happened more than once if that is what you mean
[00:02] <supert0nes> not even ctrl alt f1 /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:02] <nosrednaekim> supert0nes: it can
[00:02] <supert0nes> teach me
[00:02] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: Many people with WM5 use synce, but for whatever reason, it just says "waiting for device to connect..."
[00:02] <supert0nes> and not for windows by the way
[00:03] <DaSkreech> TheSayers: so you know what makes it crash ?
[00:03] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: I can't browse any files.  I REFUSE to reinstall windows on a partition just to sync my damn phone, ya know :/
[00:03] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: my blackberry works as plug and play and i can just add-remove stuff like a usb drive
[00:03] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: but i have not messed with syncing contacts or anything
[00:04] <nosrednaekim> FUD: maybe do it via virtulbox
[00:04] <FUD> hmmm... kubuntunewbie: how do you browse- just in Konqueror?
[00:04] <supert0nes> nosrednaekim: how do you make it dock?
[00:04] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: konqueror or Dolphin
[00:04] <nosrednaekim> supert0nes: its a plugin
[00:05] <supert0nes> yeah ive searched but only found it for windows
[00:05] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: and its under "storage media"?  ... All that shows is my HDD
[00:05] <kubuntunewbie> FUD: yup, for me it come up
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> supert0nes: then it must be in it by default...
[00:06] <FUD> kubuntunewbie: looks like im SOL for the moment :/
[00:06] <FUD> I hate proprietary crap
[00:06] <DaSkreech> As far as I know the official blackberry forums have a linux support section
[00:06] <ardchoille> same
[00:07] <DaSkreech> with a subsection or Curve
[00:07] <DaSkreech> for
[00:08] <FUD> DaSkreech: it's a SmartPhone, IIRC theyre a little different
[00:08] <DaSkreech> Ok thought that kubuntunewbie had a curve
[00:08] <kubuntunewbie> DaSi do have a curve
[00:08] <kubuntunewbie> DaSkreech: ^^
[00:08] <FUD> oic
[00:09] <FUD> Thanks guys- I'll check back later
[00:09] <DaSkreech> kubuntunewbie: Did you check the offical BB forums?
[00:10] <kubuntunewbie> DaSkreech: for what? all i need it to do is work as a USB device and it does that already.  I have no need to sync it.
[00:10] <DaSkreech> Oh
[00:10] <DaSkreech> Ignore me then
[00:10] <kubuntunewbie> DaSkreech: haha its all good, its friday night, relax and grab a beer
[00:15] <eagles0513875> *sigh i was my saturday morning now could be like that
[00:15] <eagles0513875> i need a gf lol
[00:15] <ardchoille> Can Second Life run on Linux?
[00:15] <LjL> yes
[00:15] <RogueJediZero> yup
[00:15] <ardchoille> Needs wine?
[00:15] <RogueJediZero> Nope, it's native
[00:15] <LjL> nope
[00:16] <ardchoille> Oh?
[00:16] <RogueJediZero> Thanks to the good folks at icculus.org
[00:16] <ardchoille> Not lucky enough for it to be in the repos, huh?
[00:16] <LjL> nope, but perhaps there's a .deb somewhere
[00:16] <LjL> i think someone was talking about it
[00:16] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: what a gf in the repos lol
[00:16] <RogueJediZero> License issues, perhaps? I can only guess
[00:16] <ardchoille> Nice
[00:16] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: hahaha
[00:17] <RogueJediZero> I think it has a loki installer
[00:17] <LjL> ardchoille: anyway, it installs nicely in your /home without root, so even without a .deb, it's not a big issue
[00:17] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: lol hey i found a java os for embedded systems which im goign to try and rework as a normal os system. but i really need adev machine
[00:18] <LjL> ardchoille: <LjL> steel_lady: second life is in synaptic?  <steel_lady> LjL yes I did it over synaptic
[00:18] <LjL> no idea what repository, or if steel_lady was daydreaming, but
[00:20] <RogueJediZero> http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php
[00:20] <ardchoille> LjL: Maybe a 3rd party repo
[00:20] <MagicCow> Woohoo! Wifi working.
[00:21] <ardchoille> I don't mess with those
[00:21]  * MagicCow does a little dance
[00:21] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: It's open source
[00:21] <ardchoille> http://secondlife.com/community/linux-alpha.php
[00:22] <DaSkreech> Hi nikkiana
[00:22] <virnik> have somebody link for compiz kdock switcher?
[00:22] <virnik> cos one at kdelook.org is useless
[00:24] <underdog5004> hmm, can anyone help me with this? When I try to ping from my server to www.google.com (or anywhere else that's not on my lan), ping gets the proper ip address, sends packets, but never receives them. Any ideas?
[00:25] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: can You browse to the site?
[00:25] <underdog5004> DaSkreech: lemme check
[00:26] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: u might not have ur firewall configured correctly either
[00:26]  * underdog5004 starts up lynx
[00:26] <underdog5004> looks good. Well, as good as it can in lynx, ha ha
[00:27] <DaSkreech> try konqueror :)
[00:27] <underdog5004> DaSkreech: can't, no gui
[00:27] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: ping cnn.com
[00:27] <supert0nes> s
[00:27] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: have u checked ur firewall configuration
[00:28] <underdog5004> ping www.cnn.com
[00:28] <underdog5004> PING www.cnn.com (64.236.24.12) 56(84) bytes of data.
[00:28] <underdog5004> --- www.cnn.com ping statistics ---
[00:28] <underdog5004> 6 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5006ms
[00:28] <underdog5004> sorry for the spam
[00:28] <eagles0513875> its ok damn what kinda connection r u on
[00:28] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: dsl, 3 down, 500 up or so
[00:28]  * underdog5004 reads through man page for iptable....
[00:29] <underdog5004> erm,...and iptables too
[00:29] <BigPick> o/
[00:29] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: u shouldnt have such a high lag
[00:30] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: there is somethign thats restricting ur connection and causing such a high lag
[00:30] <underdog5004> http://pastebin.com/m2d439c0f is my iptables chains
[00:31] <eagles0513875> ok
[00:31] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: when I ping from my desktop box, it works just fine...
[00:31] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: what kinda of firewall r u using
[00:31] <underdog5004> iptables, I think
[00:31] <underdog5004> as far as i know, anyway
[00:31] <BigPick> So whats up all?
[00:32] <underdog5004> BigPick: can't ping...
[00:33] <BigPick> fun
[00:33] <eagles0513875> does kubuntu come with a default firewall enabled
[00:33] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: do u have port forwarding on ur router
[00:33] <BigPick> No it does not.
[00:33] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: do u have it enabled on ur router
[00:33] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: hold on
[00:34] <Daisuke_Ido> comes with iptables but no rules are set by default
[00:34] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: that could be ur problem u dont have it setup on ur wrouter
[00:35] <BigPick> When you say can't ping, do you mean Unknown Host or no response.
[00:35] <underdog5004> ok, back. My gf called.
[00:35] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: yes, kubuntu comes with a firewall, but the rules are empty. There are gui front-ends that can help you enable it, but a firewall on a default install really isn't needed
[00:35] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: it's not a port-forwarding issue.
[00:35] <eagles0513875> BigPick: he gets 100% packet loss
[00:36] <underdog5004> BigPick:
[00:36] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: whats the name of the gui
[00:36] <underdog5004>  ping www.no-ip.com
[00:36] <underdog5004> PING www.no-ip.com (204.16.252.112) 56(84) bytes of data.
[00:36] <underdog5004> --- www.no-ip.com ping statistics ---
[00:36] <underdog5004> 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3000ms
[00:36] <BigPick> okay, are you able to resolve hostnames? i.e. nslookup
[00:36] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: There are a few: firestarter (gnome), kmyfirewall(kde) and I think the other is guarddog
[00:37] <ardchoille> !firewall
[00:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:37]  * underdog5004 does sudo apt-get install nslookup
[00:37] <eagles0513875> :)
[00:37] <eagles0513875> ty ardchoille
[00:37] <bobesponja> hey
[00:37] <ardchoille> yw
[00:37] <blueyed> !logs
[00:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:37] <underdog5004> hmm, nslookup?
[00:37] <underdog5004> can I use whois instead to check ?
[00:37] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: if u wanna check if a pkg exists do apt-cache search nslookup
[00:37] <bobesponja> do I need to add a line to sources.list? I can't get kde4 beta3 packages here
[00:37] <eagles0513875> then if it does use the name that is found
[00:39] <kubuntunewbie> lindsay lohan was hot when she was filming Herbie.
[00:39] <eagles0513875> !offtopic lol
[00:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:39] <BigPick> nslookup isnt a package, its a built in ip utility
[00:39] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[00:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:39] <underdog5004> BigPick: looks like whois can't complete it's lookup...
[00:39] <kubuntunewbie> eagles0513875: lol, im in the offtopic channel but no one responded to my comment.
[00:39] <blueyed> I've solved why compiz did not work for me anymore: disabling "show icons on desktop" causes it to fail to start (bug 159409)
[00:40] <eagles0513875> kubuntunewbie: lol
[00:41] <BigPick> underdog: Could you binutil the output of 'ifconfig' for me?
[00:41] <BigPick> !binutil
[00:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binutil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:41] <anton__> My linux is SERIOUSLY bugged. Anyway to like...enter debug mode or anything?
[00:41] <BigPick> shit, no sorry
[00:41] <DaSkreech> anton__: Seriously?
[00:41] <BigPick> !pastebin
[00:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:41] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[00:41] <anton__> ...And I thought linux was supposed to be stable...
[00:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[00:41] <DaSkreech> anton__: Has the kernel crashed ?
[00:42] <anton__> DaSkreech: Yeah, My programs lose their titlebars, won't close...
[00:42] <anton__> sometimes my keyboard won't work...
[00:42] <DaSkreech> anton__: Oh
[00:42] <DaSkreech> Kwin died
[00:42] <anton__> I dunno if the kernel has crashed
[00:42] <anton__> Kwin?
[00:42] <DaSkreech> anton__: nothing would work if the kernel crashed
[00:42] <underdog5004> BigPick: how do I use binutils?
[00:42] <DaSkreech> anton__: do things have title bars now ?
[00:42] <ardchoille> anton__: kwin is the default window manager in kde
[00:42] <anton__> DaSkreech: No, no titlebars.
[00:43] <BigPick> Not binutils, sorry, pastebin
[00:43] <BigPick> !pastebin
[00:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:43] <ardchoille> !paste
[00:43] <DaSkreech> anton__: open konsole
[00:43] <anton__> ok
[00:43] <DaSkreech> type in kwin --replace &
[00:43] <underdog5004> ok, ho
[00:43] <underdog5004> erm, h/o, even
[00:44] <anton__> Yay, now I can move the windows...
[00:44] <anton__> thanks
[00:44] <underdog5004> http://pastebin.com/m23890979
[00:44] <DaSkreech> anton__: I used to have that on the desktop so I could just click and get kwin back
[00:44] <DaSkreech> anton__: if it dies often come back and let us know
[00:44] <ardchoille> I know you can ctrl+click anywhere in a window and move it, but does that work even if kwin crashes?
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> I have a little question, hopefully you guys can help me :)
[00:45] <anton__> still, I openedI still have troubles.
[00:45] <eagles0513875> im back
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> I have an intel mac
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> and im partitioning a 2nd disk for kubuntu
[00:45] <BigPick> your if config looks good. Try running 'nslookup google.com'
[00:45] <anton__> I opened a virtuel keyboard before the last reboot, and it's still open at the middle of the screen...I can't close it. Why?!
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> i cant seem to find what format to format the drive
[00:45] <underdog5004> ardchoille: that'd be ALT + left click
[00:45] <anton__> virtual*
[00:45] <ardchoille> underdog5004: oh, right
[00:46] <DaSkreech> anton__: Which virtual keyboard
[00:46] <TheSayers> anton__: you can close it and , you need to go to session manager and tell it to open a clean session every boot
[00:46] <Dry_Ice> basically, what format does the disk need to be in to install kubuntu?
[00:46] <underdog5004> http://pastebin.com/m2e07c23b
[00:46] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: ext3, usually
[00:46] <ardchoille> Dry_Ice: ext3
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: What are you using ot format it?
[00:46] <anton__> TheSayers: I CAN'T close it... it's in the middle of my screen...really annoying :/
[00:46] <Dry_Ice> im on a mac
[00:46] <anton__> DaSkreech: Dunno the name
[00:47] <Dry_Ice> and the app i usually use to format disks doesn't do ext3...
[00:47] <TheSayers> anton__: go into htop or some system monitor and kill it
[00:47] <DaSkreech> anton__: How did you open it?
[00:47] <ardchoille> anton__: ctrl+alt+esc   when your mouse cursor turns to an "x", click the offending window
[00:47] <Dry_Ice> and i'm formatting the disk
[00:47] <Dry_Ice> not using it
[00:47] <anton__> kvkbd, it's called
[00:47] <BigPick> underdog5004: Okay, from the information you have given me it appears that you are behind a network firewall. Gateway address 192.168.2.1
[00:47] <k5ubuntu> i need help installing java for kubuntu
[00:48] <underdog5004> yessir
[00:48] <Dry_Ice> are there any mac/linux nerds around?
[00:48] <anton__> Thanks ardchoille!
[00:48] <ardchoille> anton__: yw
[00:48] <anton__> Now, the big question: WHY did everything start to screw with me? Worked fine before reboot...
[00:48] <BigPick> Do you know what kind of firewall?
[00:48] <sweettooth> hi there, wonder if anyone could help me out, i lost sound in kubuntu, when i restart the laptop, it seems working, is there anyway i could fix this problem without restarting?
[00:49] <ardchoille> !sound
[00:49] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:49] <underdog5004> BigPick: on my server (box that I'm having problems with), iptables. For the gateway, I'm not sure, but it's some crappy usr router.
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | underdog5004
[00:49] <ubotu> underdog5004: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[00:49] <underdog5004> wow...uh...thanks?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> :D
[00:49] <ardchoille> lol
[00:49] <k5ubuntu> can somebody help me to get java installed on kubuntu please
[00:49] <underdog5004> ;)
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> !java
[00:50] <Dry_Ice> How do I format my disk into ext3 format?
[00:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> Dry_Ice: "mkfs.ext2"
[00:50] <Dry_Ice> mkfs.ext2?
[00:50] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: or mkfs.ext3
[00:50] <Dry_Ice> explain plz?
[00:51] <BigPick> underdog5004: Okay, based on what I'm seeing the only thing I can conclusively say is that NAT (Network Address Translation) is not operating correctly on your firewall box.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> anton__: It has a sense of humor?
[00:51] <BigPick> underdoy5004: If you like, you can pastebin your iptables configuration and I can take a look.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> anton__: BTW did you try clicking on the red power button on the keyboard?
[00:51] <Dry_Ice> 17:50:59
[00:51] <Dry_Ice> underdog5004Dry_Ice: or mkfs.ext3 <-- explain plz
[00:52] <anton__> DaSkreech: Probably, pretty much destroyed my confidence in Linux...
[00:52] <anton__> Yes, I clicked the button
[00:52] <anton__> Didn't work
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[00:52] <DaSkreech> ok
[00:52] <DaSkreech> works here
[00:52] <DaSkreech> what did you do before reboot?
[00:52] <anton__> Nothing
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Except reboot?
[00:52] <anton__> yeah
[00:52] <anton__> Hm...
[00:52] <anton__> annoying anyway
[00:53] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: ext3 is a journaling filesystem, so you won't loose data when your power goes out (I think)
[00:53] <anton__> Thanks by the way
[00:53] <Dry_Ice> i know its a filesystem
[00:53] <underdog5004> http://pastebin.com/m2d439c0f is my iptables chains
[00:53] <Dry_Ice> i don't know how to format my disk into ext3
[00:53] <TheSayers> exit
[00:53] <DaSkreech> anton__: Sure. One other nice thing about linux is that if things break there is always a way to find out what went wrong and fix it
[00:54] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: in linux, it would be sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 , where hda1 will be your root drive
[00:54] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: You can just leave them blank Kubuntu can format them on install
[00:54] <underdog5004> root partition, anyway
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> ok...
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> Kubuntu formats on install?
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> great!
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> thanks DaSkreech :D
[00:54] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: if you need it to :)
[00:54] <anton__> DaSkreech: Yeah. And that's nice, really. I would prefer it wouldn't break, though.
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> so basically...you have the cd
[00:54] <DaSkreech> anton__: true.
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> you run it?
[00:54] <Dry_Ice> and it does everything?
[00:55]  * underdog5004 thinks Dry_Ice is coming from gentoo ;)
[00:55] <Dry_Ice> o.O
[00:55] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: yep
[00:55] <anton__> The thought of throwing the comp out the window occured, to be honest
[00:55] <Dry_Ice> i'm coming from OS X...
[00:55] <Dry_Ice> i need something simple...
[00:55] <anton__> Anyway, if any other problems show up, I'll be back. Thanks for the help. :)
[00:55] <blendtux> why did you left heaven Dry_Ice
[00:55] <DaSkreech> anton__: Well come in here we can help
[00:55] <Dry_Ice> lol
[00:56] <Dry_Ice> i'm a fool...
[00:56] <Dry_Ice> that's why
[00:56] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: for simplicity, OS X, ubuntu, pclinuxos, maybe mandriva
[00:56] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know how i can format the partition in terminal anyway?
[00:56] <BigPick> underdog5004: I'm not seeing MASQUERADE of POSTROUTING
[00:56] <Dry_Ice> i'm a Linux n00b...
[00:56] <Dry_Ice> if you can't tell :P
[00:56] <underdog5004> BigPick: not quite sure what that means...
[00:57] <BigPick> underdog5004: The best guide I have found for NAT iptables is http://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[00:57] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: don't worry about it. Just keep learning, lol
[00:57] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: fdisk
[00:57] <underdog5004> BigPick: so, you know what the problem is?
[00:57] <tekteen> fdisk does not format
[00:57] <underdog5004> wait, wait, I don't need to do NAT stuff with my server
[00:58] <underdog5004> tekteen: don't forget to tell fdisk to write the changes to disk
[00:58] <tekteen> fdisk is used for partitioning
[00:58] <underdog5004> tekteen: I prefer cfdisk
[00:58] <Dry_Ice> i need to partition/format
[00:58] <Dry_Ice> is there a mac nerd here?
[00:58] <underdog5004> Dry_Ice: kubuntu livecd will do this for you!
[00:58] <Dry_Ice> i know, its a linux chanel...
[00:58] <Dry_Ice> channel*
[00:58] <tekteen> underdog5004: u what to talk to Dry_Ice
[00:58] <Dry_Ice> i'm being impatient and downloading the image...
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: oh sorry
[00:59] <DaSkreech> mkfs.ext3
[00:59] <underdog5004> tekteen: um...what?
[00:59] <BigPick> underdog5004: If you are using it as your network firewall you do.
[00:59] <Dry_Ice> after i have the image
[00:59] <Dry_Ice> i burn it to a cd
[00:59] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: try man mkfs
[00:59] <Dry_Ice> and do i boot up to the cd?
[00:59] <tekteen> underdog5004: Dry_Ice wanted the help. I was helping him
[00:59] <Dry_Ice> after i get the cd all done, i boot up to it right?
[00:59] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: yes
[00:59] <Dry_Ice> ok
[01:00] <Dry_Ice> coz i'm downloading an .iso file right now
[01:00] <tekteen> mke2fs will format a partition
[01:00] <DaSkreech> cool
[01:00] <Dry_Ice> i can burn that to the disk
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Yes
[01:00] <underdog5004> tekteen: it's ok, I was too. It's not a competition or anything. Feel free to continue with him
[01:00] <Dry_Ice> and boot up to it
[01:00] <DaSkreech> right
[01:00] <Dry_Ice> too bad i only have cable :P
[01:00] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: Want a easy read ?
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !install | Dry_Ice
[01:00] <ubotu> Dry_Ice: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:00] <tekteen> underdog5004: No use addressed me with an answer to someone else;s question
[01:01] <underdog5004> tekteen: chill out, please.
[01:01] <posingaspopular> hey guys Kamerheimer is getting this error on trying to 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43064/plain/
[01:01] <k5ubuntu> i need help installed java for kubuntu 7.10
[01:01] <Dry_Ice> idk if you caught it daskreech...
[01:01] <underdog5004> tekteen: I'm sorry if I violated your conduct protocol.
[01:01] <posingaspopular> i can't figure it out, maybe someone else knows
[01:01] <Dry_Ice> i'm on a mac :D
[01:01] <posingaspopular> !java | k5ubuntu
[01:01] <ubotu> k5ubuntu: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:01] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: I did
[01:02] <DaSkreech> !powerpc
[01:02] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[01:02] <Dry_Ice> i'm being stupid, leaving heaven, and downloading Kubuntu
[01:02] <DaSkreech> In case it's an old mac :)
[01:02] <Dry_Ice> nah, i have an intel :)
[01:02] <Dry_Ice> although i prefer PPC
[01:02] <Dry_Ice> but i have 200gb of hdd space to waste :D
[01:02] <Dry_Ice> so i figured i'd put linux on a partition...
[01:03] <posingaspopular> i wouldn't consider a linux partition a waste...
[01:04] <posingaspopular> unless we're talking about redhat (lolamirite). jk ;p
[01:04] <underdog5004> posingaspopular: kthxbye
[01:05] <BigPick> Don't get me started on RedHat
[01:05] <Dry_Ice> Daskreech: after i get the current version of Kubuntu on my partition, can i just update from the linux system?
[01:05] <Dry_Ice> coz i don't mind using one CD to get linux on my computer
[01:05] <posingaspopular> Dry_Ice: yes
[01:05] <Dry_Ice>  they're only $.30
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: Update?
[01:05] <Dry_Ice> well
[01:05] <Dry_Ice> download the new image or whatever
[01:05] <vzduch> BigPick: what's wrong w/ Red Hat?
[01:05] <DaSkreech> What new image?
[01:06] <Dry_Ice> after kubuntu gets updated
[01:06] <underdog5004> BigPick: so, why did you point me to that NAT page?
[01:06] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[01:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:06] <Dry_Ice> ubotu...
[01:06] <DaSkreech> Short answer is yes
[01:06] <Dry_Ice> nice...
[01:06] <posingaspopular> omg i didn't mean to start a flame war. but to be clear, I think yum is an inferior package handler (and i've heard fedore dev say the same thing), but apt doesn't compare to conary. linux is still the best kernel/OS out there
[01:07] <BigPick> underdog5004: Your network firewall needs to have NAT properly configured. Did you send me your current iptable chains or the servers?
[01:07] <posingaspopular> back to the question at hand: Kamerheimer needs help installing firefox and gets this error when doing sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43064/plain/
[01:07] <mark_> wie install ich ein prog
[01:07] <DaSkreech> !botsnack | posingaspopular I like
[01:07] <ubotu> posingaspopular I like: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:07] <Dry_Ice> thanks for all your help Daskreech
[01:07] <Dry_Ice> i'll bbs
[01:07] <Dry_Ice> :D
[01:07] <DaSkreech> Dry_Ice: Anytime
[01:08] <Dry_Ice> buhbai
[01:08] <DaSkreech> !de | mark_
[01:08] <ubotu> mark_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:08] <underdog5004> BigPick: my servers iptables chains. The NAT appliance is some crappy USR router/switch/firewall
[01:09] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:09] <posingaspopular> isn't the command 'mozilla-firefox'
[01:09] <ardchoille> no
[01:09] <BigPick> If your connection is running through your server, NAT must also be enabled.
[01:09] <posingaspopular> Kamerheimer: try 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[01:09] <posingaspopular> i might been wrong about that command
[01:10] <tekteen> no that was right
[01:10] <ardchoille> There is no "mozilla-firefox" package, the browser is "firefox"
[01:10] <DaSkreech> !info mozilla-firefox
[01:10] <ubotu> Package mozilla-firefox does not exist in gutsy
[01:10] <ardchoille> :)
[01:11] <Kamerheimer> i tried that posing
[01:11] <eagles0513875> !info firefox
[01:11] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.8+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[01:11] <ardchoille> lightweight? hahaha
[01:11] <eagles0513875> its just firefox u dont need mozilla
[01:12] <Kamerheimer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43064/plain/
[01:12] <ardchoille> Someon is deluded
[01:12] <Kamerheimer> i cant install anything
[01:12] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: u talking about me
[01:12] <underdog5004> BigPick: my desktop and server both connect via the router/switch, which has a connection to my ISP
[01:12] <Kamerheimer> cant install java
[01:12] <DaSkreech> !info seamonkey
[01:12] <ubotu> Package seamonkey does not exist in gutsy
[01:12] <DaSkreech> :-(
[01:12] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: No, the bot factoid said Firefox is "lightweight"
[01:12] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: have u tried port forwarding on ur router
[01:13] <tekteen> type sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-plugin
[01:13] <tekteen> to install java
[01:13] <eagles0513875> Kamerheimer: or u can use adept manager and search for java
[01:13] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: it's not necessary, since my desktop is set up the same way, and I have no problems with it.
[01:14] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: r u running a previous release of kubuntu on it
[01:14] <BigPick> underdog5004: Is your desktop also behind your server firewall?
[01:14] <underdog5004> I'm running edgy on my server and gutsy on my desktop. desktop and server are both behind my ROUTERS firewall.
[01:15] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: r they bothing using static ips
[01:15] <Kamerheimer> eagles i did use the manager and didnt knwo which one to pick
[01:15] <Kamerheimer> the previous commands from tek didnt nto owrk
[01:15] <eagles0513875> Kamerheimer: u need the jdk and the jre
[01:15] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: yes
[01:15] <ctothej> I would like to use rdc with a custom resolution. krdc doesn't have sound when I use it and rdesktop/tsclient won't let me have a custom resolution. What can I do?
[01:15] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: then u need to allow an exception for those ip addresses in ur routers firewall
[01:16] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: no, I don't, because they're on the same LAN, so the firewall doesn't see any of that traffice.
[01:16] <Kamerheimer> ok where do i get teh jdk and jre from, sun.java.com maybe
[01:16] <underdog5004> traffic, even
[01:16] <ardchoille> !java | Kamerheimer
[01:16] <eagles0513875> Kamerheimer: they r in adept
[01:16] <ubotu> Kamerheimer: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:16] <eagles0513875> Kamerheimer: search java
[01:17] <tekteen> Kamerheimer: type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-plugin"
[01:17] <BigPick> underdog5004: Is the ip address of your desktop something like 192.168.2.x or 192.168.1.x
[01:17] <eagles0513875> tekteen: he needs the jdk and jre or even just the jre
[01:17] <tekteen> ok
[01:17] <eagles0513875> unless u know how to write programs in java then ull need the jdk
[01:17] <underdog5004> BigPick: yep, and so's my servers
[01:17] <BigPick> Which one
[01:17] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: this is a really random thing but have u tried doing a soft reset on ur router
[01:18] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: nm that isnt goign to work
[01:18] <underdog5004> BigPick: 192.168.2
[01:18] <underdog5004> eagles0513875: no, I haven't
[01:18] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: try that see if that helps anything
[01:18] <BigPick> underdog5004: Allright, can you ping your router for me? 192.168.2.1 from your server.
[01:19] <underdog5004> nvm, I fixed the problem. It was moblock blocking the ping replies. I just did sudo moblock-control stop and now I can ping! thanks for your help BigPick and eagles0513875
[01:19] <eagles0513875> underdog5004: no problem
[01:19] <eagles0513875> im out for the night guys
[01:20] <BigPick> underdog5004: Awesome, I had a funny feeling ICMP packets were being filtered.
[01:20] <underdog5004> hmm, gOS has been released: http://www.thinkgos.com/downloads.html
[01:20] <Kamerheimer> ok i ran those commands and still getting errors
[01:20] <anton__> Question: Is there any way to bind my mouse buttons (I have a M$ Habu)? I want to bind the two thumb buttons to work as forward and back.
[01:20] <posingaspopular> im thinking that Kamerheimer might be having some dependency issues, because he's not getting any of those programs to install
[01:21] <BigPick> underdog5004: Usually when you are able resolve DNS addresses but unable to ping, ICMP filtering or similar is ocurring.
[01:22] <underdog5004> sounds reasonable
[01:23] <Goop2> is it normal to have trouble using ALSA with multiple programs at one time?
[01:24] <BigPick> underdog5004: I apologize for my confusing NAT response, I was under the impression that your setup was WAN->router->server->desktop
[01:24] <underdog5004> no biggie
[01:25] <underdog5004> irc leaves much to be desired in way of communication, that's for sure!
[01:25]  * underdog5004 wants an MSPAINT style canvas for irc...
[01:25] <biovore> irc is also from the 80's
[01:26] <biovore> there are ctcp protocols that do things like voip and graphics and stuff..
[01:26] <biovore> that run on irc..
[01:26] <biovore> but there non-standard
[01:26] <underdog5004> yeah...I just like to bitchnmoan about stuff, not try to fix them, :)
[01:27] <biovore> rgr... Its fun so the disgruntled looks on the developers faces :-P
[01:27] <biovore> (fun to see)
[01:34]  * BigPick has a disgruntled look on his face.
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> Goop2: turn on full duplex..
[01:44] <ardchoille> irc is just multi-player notepad
[01:45] <lespea> did you steal that from bash?
[01:45] <biovore> lol
[01:46] <ardchoille> yep
[01:49] <debian-is-me> why does kubuntu use more ram than debian with kde?
[01:50] <biovore> naw it's probably about the same.. there both running the same thing really..
[01:50] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: Are you taking into account bufferes/cached ?
[01:50] <ardchoille> Most people fail to do that
[01:51] <debian-is-me> Ok, kubuntu is using more ram. Debian uses less. I don't think so. And kubuntu is slower too boot.
[01:51] <debian-is-me> I don't think so about the buffer cache thing
[01:52] <BigPick> That is likely due to some of the included packages such as NetworkManager.
[01:52] <debian-is-me> I'm running knetworkmanager
[01:52] <debian-is-me> on debian
[01:53] <biovore> yeah.. there are a couple of extras.. strigi maybe.. its a hoe bag of a program..
[01:53] <debian-is-me> so debian is better than kubuntu?
[01:53] <BigPick> Strigi is the other thing that immediatley comes to mind.
[01:53] <BigPick> I wouldn't say so.
[01:53] <biovore> well there not exactly the same..
[01:54] <biovore> kubuntu default desktop comes with more stuff..  it thats a problem.. then maybe its not as good as debian.. I used debian for a long time here.. I still like it..
[01:54] <BigPick> If your only concern is memory usage and bootup time, then there is a difference.
[01:54] <debian-is-me> but debian uses less ram, and uses lower boot time, and have a funnier installer
[01:54] <robinson> hey, running compiz fusion on kubuntu gutsy. Open office doesnt have window decorations. how do i get this?
[01:54] <debian-is-me> how do I get compiz fusion to my debian-box?
[01:55] <ardchoille> !compiz
[01:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:55] <biovore> thats why compiz is beta.. it does weird stuff with open-office..
[01:55] <biovore> debian-is-me: probably best to download it and compile..
[01:56] <debian-is-me> I  hate the compilator
[01:56] <debian-is-me> it always complains about errors in line 72
[01:56] <biovore> thats why we all use ubuntu..
[01:56] <biovore> debian stable is very stale
[01:57] <biovore> good for servers but not reallty all that good for desktops..  could try debian sid (unstable) to get the newer stuff..
[01:57] <BigPick> I would not recommend doing a custom compile. There is likely a very simple answer to this problem.
[01:57] <biovore> use kubuntu :-P
[01:58] <debian-is-me> Can I apt-get install kubuntu?
[01:58] <ardchoille> debian-is-me: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <ardchoille> That will get you the kde desktop for kubuntu
[01:58] <debian-is-me> But I have debian
[01:59] <biovore> (hes on debian.. note nick)
[01:59] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[01:59] <ardchoille> If I believed all the nicks I see, then there have been dieties and movie starts in here, lol
[02:00] <lespea> ubotu: do you still use the feisty repos for the themes?
[02:00] <ardchoille> !bot
[02:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:02] <keoni> Has anyone else experienced not monitor going into suspend/no signal mode when booting off install cd. then after a few minutes yo are at the desktop
[02:02] <wilson> they should fix adept from crashing randomly or just get rid of it
[02:03] <keoni> scratch that not
[02:05] <jake_348> what are people getting for sata performance in gutsy?
[02:05] <jake_348> I have a 7200 rpm drive and my hdparm is only about 44 mb/s
[02:05] <jake_348> should it be higher?
[02:08] <underdog5004> wilson: synaptic is a way better frontend for apt than adept, that's for sure!
[02:09] <lespea> I loves me my aptitude :)
[02:10] <stepz_> ugh, dist-upgrade failed on linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:11] <stepz_> says that it failed to create initrd image
[02:11] <stepz_> any suggestions on how to start fixing this?
[02:14] <BigPick> stepz_: start but trying to manually reconfigure the image package. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic"
[02:14] <stepz_> linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic is broken or not fully installed
[02:15] <BigPick> stepz_: If its complains that no such package is installed then try "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic"
[02:15] <lespea> BigPick: does he have to clean it or whatever?
[02:16] <BigPick> Possibly, but an inclomplete install can be resumed.
[02:16] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know about converting mdf files?  Though it's a CD image, K3B doesn't recognize it.  And the program mdf2iso doesn't recognize it, either.  Any ideas?
[02:16] <BigPick> If a resume or a reconfigure fails then a clean\purge would be the next logical step.
[02:19] <BigPick> Ertain: Hmmm... an interesting problem.
[02:19] <stuffcorpse> Ertain: there's a program called 'iat' that has worked better for me
[02:19] <stepz_> it broke in the configuration phase, if I remove the new kernel version for now, should it be possible to resume configuration of the rest of the stuff
[02:21] <BigPick> stepz_: Not recommended. Could you pastebin the output for me?
[02:21] <BigPick> !paste
[02:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:21] <stepz_> the output of what?
[02:21] <BigPick> stepz_: Whatever messages are returned from the configuration phase.
[02:23] <stepz_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43069/
[02:23] <stepz_> that is after the GUI process froze on me
[02:26] <BigPick> stepz_: Allrighty can you pastebin the output of the command "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" for me?
[02:28] <stepz_> I already managed to uninstall them, but here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43070/
[02:29] <stepz_> I may have a clue where the problem may be, I now remembered that I'm running on encrypted root, and to get that working I had to do some modification to some initrd scripts
[02:31] <BigPick> stepz_: Yeah, initramfs is complaining of an invalid option.
[02:32] <BigPick> stepz_: Can you remember what files you had to modify?
[02:32] <stepz_> I'm not sure how those modifications could end up passing mkinitramfs that invalid option, but I'll review my changes
[02:32] <jtt> i know all the warnings but does anyone know where they disabled root login in gutsy  not kdmrc is set that
[02:33] <ardchoille> jtt: when you diable the root account, doesn't that automatically disable logins?
[02:33] <stepz_> I think I used this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem
[02:33] <donsdw> Does anyone here know how to edit sudo (visudo) to extend time period?
[02:34] <ardchoille> donsdw: search the wiki for "timestamp_timout"
[02:35] <jtt> let me rephrase  i cant login as root at the kde login screen i use to set this up in kdmrc that no longer works
[02:36] <ardchoille> jtt: I don't think you're going to get any help inhere about logging in as root.
[02:36] <donsdw> ardchoille: Thanks, but what wiki? Where is it? What is it's name?  linuxwiki?
[02:36] <ardchoille> !wiki
[02:36] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[02:37] <tekstacy> What's the easiest way to back up the entire system?
[02:37] <donsdw> ardchoille: I think I found it.  The one ubotu said?
[02:37] <halohunter> hey i need help
[02:37] <donsdw> !wiki
[02:37] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[02:37] <ardchoille> donsdw: yeah, wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <donsdw> ardchoille: Thanks again.
[02:37] <BigPick> stepz_: Alright, this is definately the cause of the problem. Could you try running "sudo update-initramfs -u ALL" for me?
[02:37] <ardchoille> tekstacy: I use PartImage to do that:  http://www.sysresccd.org
[02:38] <ardchoille> donsdw: yw
[02:38] <halohunter> i need help setting up my microphone
[02:39] <stepz_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43071/
[02:39] <halohunter> i dont know to find my new sound card
[02:39] <BigPick> halohunter: Do you know what type of soundcard you have?
[02:39] <tekstacy> ardchoille, cool, thanks.
[02:39] <tekstacy> that looks like a handy disk to have around
[02:40] <halohunter> i dont know the command to look at your devices on your cpu
[02:40] <ardchoille> tekstacy: The thing with PartImage is the partition you are backing up must be unmounted, so you can't use PartImage in kubuntu to back up kubuntu. However, that url I gave you has a very nice livecd that has partimage and tons of other admins apps.
[02:40] <ardchoille> tekstacy: It is, I carry it with my Kubuntu livecd's
[02:41] <vafada> hi. in dolphin.. how to enable the 'delete' command in the context menu?
[02:41] <rgreening> yeah, whny is that hidden. And why does the trash can link not work
[02:42] <rgreening> lol
[02:42] <rgreening> dolphin is not quite ready for prime time
[02:42] <halohunter> what is the command to look at the devices on your board
[02:42] <BigPick> stepz_: Okay... lets see here, after looking at that how-to you posted I might have some ideas...
[02:42] <ardchoille> tekstacy: I have an 80Gb partition with my "/" on it, but "/" takes up about 6Gb, PartImage will only copy the used bit (6Gb) and compress it down to a 900Mg tarball.. it takes me about 10 minutes to backup my entire system.
[02:42] <Jucato> halohunter: lspci
[02:42] <halohunter> thanks
[02:43] <vafada> source code shows that it can be enable by setting ShowDeleteCommand to true.. but i have no idea where to set this setting
[02:43] <Jucato> rgreening: what do you ean the trash can link doesn't work?
[02:43] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i can haz help?
[02:43] <rgreening> In dolphin. YOu cant drag/drop files into the can cause it's a bookmark
[02:43] <Jucato> and Dolphin is quite ready "for primetime"... the Dolphin in Kubuntu isn't Dolphin
[02:43] <rgreening> quite counter intuitive
[02:43] <posingaspopular> i can't figure out how to file this documentation bug
[02:44] <posingaspopular> rich isn't around
[02:44] <vafada> Jucato: huh? then what is dolphin in Kubuntu?
[02:44] <Jucato> vafada: D3lphin
[02:44] <k5ubuntu> i need a good mac dock for kubuntu
[02:44] <rgreening> D3lphin then... 0.9.2 for KDE 3.5 isnt ready... but Dolphin is KDE 4 and KDE 4 isnt ready.. catch 22
[02:44] <ardchoille> k5ubuntu: kooldock, it's in the repos
[02:44] <rgreening> :>
[02:44] <vafada> Jucato: yeah make sense since the config fiile is d3lphinrc
[02:44] <k5ubuntu> repos?
[02:44] <halohunter> i found it it is called  Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
[02:45] <k5ubuntu> ardchoille: whats repos
[02:45] <ardchoille> !repos | k5ubuntu
[02:45] <ubotu> k5ubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:45] <Jucato> rgreening: It's a bookmark. of course dragging and dropping to it won't work. I doubt that other people would have thought of doing that
[02:45] <ardchoille> k5ubuntu: I remember someone giving you info about the repos not too long ago
[02:45] <rgreening> Hmmm... I think it make sense.. It's a trash can. lol
[02:46] <rgreening> Why even have the bookmark there....
[02:46] <rgreening> pointless
[02:46] <rgreening> :)
[02:46] <Jucato> hi posingaspopular... I'm not good w/ documentation... have you tried #ubuntu-docs ?
[02:46] <posingaspopular> of course. all i need help with is LP
[02:46] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: what bug are you trying to file?
[02:46] <Jucato> rgreening: for you. for everyone else, it isn't. it's a bookmark!
[02:46] <Jucato> it's a link to a location
[02:46] <k5ubuntu> how can i terminate another program causing my konsole to lock
[02:46] <k5ubuntu> whats the code
[02:46] <rgreening> And everyone needs a bookmark to their trash.. do you often dig through your trash :)
[02:46] <Jucato> k5ubuntu: Ctrl+C
[02:47] <posingaspopular> KDE help center->applet manuals doesn't actually do anything
[02:47] <rgreening> lol
[02:47] <vafada> so no way to put delete in context menu?
[02:47] <Jucato> rgreening: yes. and some users do. otherwise, why would there be a need for the Trash anyway?
[02:47] <k5ubuntu> doesnt  work
[02:47] <stepz_> BigPick: I'd be glad to hear your ideas, because a cursory review of this stuff doesn't reveal to me who or why would pass that option to mkinitramfs
[02:47] <Jucato> vafada: hold on
[02:47] <jacques> k5ubuntu: try ctrl-D ?
[02:47] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: Maybe that documentation hasn't been written yet?
[02:48] <BigPick> stepz_: Right, okay, sorry just checking some things. Well we have several options.
[02:48] <rgreening> Jucato: meh.. I guess Im not going to win the intuitive vs counterintuitive argument with you. Best I beat my head against a wall. :P
[02:48] <vafada> Jucato: here's the code: kdeConfig.readEntry("ShowDeleteCommand", false);.. i just have no idea where to put that ShowDeleteCommand
[02:48] <posingaspopular> well why would it be in gutsy if the documentation isn't up yet
[02:49] <Jucato> rgreening: just because you don't do A or A isn't intuitive for you, doesn't mean it's the case for everybody else
[02:49] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: Because documentation is one of the last things on the "To Do" list of almost ever developer
[02:49] <Jucato> vafada: I don't think there's a GUI option for it in D3lphin right now
[02:49] <posingaspopular> it's it's blank because they want some help with it, they shou
[02:49] <posingaspopular> sigh.
[02:49] <posingaspopular> nvm
[02:49] <vafada> Jucato: yeah.. oh well thanks anyways
[02:50] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: You could always join the ubuntu-docs team and fill it up :)
[02:50] <BigPick> stepz_: Since dapper cryptsetup has become the prefered method for setting the kernel up to handle encrypted filesystems.
[02:51] <posingaspopular> iam on the docs team
[02:51] <rgreening> Jucato: Sorry, I guess I am used to things a bit differently since I have been building and designing Linux apps and systems since 1993...
[02:51] <posingaspopular> but i need help bring it to their attention and no one was talking in the -doc chan
[02:51] <posingaspopular> i guess they are talking now
[02:51] <posingaspopular> thanks ardchoille
[02:51] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: I'm in the process of joining the docs team myself.
[02:51] <BigPick> stepz_: but I am unsure of how safe it would be to try to switch your installation over to the cryptsetup scripts.
[02:52] <Jucato> rgreening: that's perfectly understandable. but please don't presume that just because you don't go into Trash, nobody else does. :)
[02:52] <tekstacy> goodnight all. thanks for the help
[02:52] <Jucato> otherwise, we wouldn't have a Trash location at alll
[02:52] <Jucato> anyway... lunch
[02:52] <BigPick> Jucato, do you have any experience with encrypted filesystem setups?
[02:52] <rgreening> Jucato: you missed my point entirely
[02:52] <ardchoille> Jucato: Did you bring enough lunch for everyone?
[02:52]  * ardchoille hides
 And everyone needs a bookmark to their trash.. do you often dig through your trash :)
[02:52]  * tekstacy tips hat, lights cigar and walks away....
[02:52] <Jucato> that was my point
[02:52] <Jucato> BigPick: sorry, nope
[02:53] <rgreening> Jucato: my point was you should be able to drag/drop onto it and right-click/empty it, because of the way it appears and what it represents.
[02:53] <ardchoille> I don't think I've ever used the trash.
[02:53] <rgreening> Jucato: having a bookmark is like having a trashcan with no bottom
[02:53] <rgreening> does only half the job
[02:53] <rgreening> :)
[02:54] <BigPick> Thanks Jucato. Well, looks like we are on our own stepz_ :P
[02:54] <stepz_> could another option be, that some of the required stuff is in half upgraded state_
[02:54] <stepz_> ?
[02:55] <BigPick> stepz_: Yes that is true, but the other stuff is in a half upgraded state because it depends on the successful configuration of the image package.
[02:56] <stepz_> ok, another, easier, option is to pump my home dir to an external hdd and reinstall
[02:57] <BigPick> stepz_: One more thing we can try before we edit the scripts though. Could you try "update-initramfs -u -k all" for me?
[02:57] <stepz_> I was going to change hdd's anyway
[02:58] <BigPick> stepz_: Thats not easier, thats just giving up. Come on man, we can fix this!
[02:59] <zach_> !compiz
[02:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:59] <stepz_> ok, you want the -u -k all output?
[02:59] <BigPick> stepz_: Yes please. Is it any different?
[03:00] <stepz_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43073/
[03:00] <stepz_> nothing caught my eye
[03:00] <needles> has anyone here tried vector linux?
[03:02] <BigPick> stepz_: Well that is rather interesting.
[03:02] <BigPick> stepz_: Could your run "sudo dpkg --configure all" for me please?
[03:03] <EightiesK> anyone know of a package that might help me learn german?
[03:03] <stepz_> you mean sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[03:03] <BigPick> stepz_: LMAO yeah, sorry I'm too tired.
[03:04] <stepz_> exactly the same as the last time
[03:04] <BigPick> dangit...
[03:05] <BigPick> stepz_: Okay which kernel images do you still have completely installed currently?
[03:05] <EightiesK> anyone know of a package that might help me learn german?
[03:05] <stepz_> how do I check?
[03:07] <BigPick> stepz_: "ls /boot | grep vm"
[03:08] <stepz_> 2.6.20-15-generic, 2.6.20-16-generic and 2.6.22-14-generic
[03:08] <stepz_> theres an initrd.img for each of those too
[03:10] <Caram> join #edubuntu
[03:10] <Caram> fail =(
[03:10] <BigPick> stepz_: Sweet, okay...
[03:10] <linux_> hello............
[03:12] <BigPick> stepz_: We are first going to try to clean up some of these older kernel images.
[03:13] <BigPick> stepz_: So try "sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.20-8-generic linux-image-2.6.20-9-generic linux-image-2.6.20-13-generic"
[03:15] <stepz_> ok, and then?
[03:16] <BigPick> stepz_: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again.
[03:16] <stepz_> same error
[03:17] <zach_> !compiz
[03:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:17] <BigPick> stepz_: If you could please get me the output of "sudo update-initramfs -u -k -v all" you might want to pipe it to a temporary file. There will be alot of output.
[03:20] <stepz_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43076/
[03:21] <stepz_> is there a simple way to look at what that postinst script is trying to do_
[03:21] <stepz_> ?
[03:22] <BigPick> Erm... according to that output that just completed successfully?
[03:22] <stepz_> yeah that completed successfully, as before
[03:27] <BigPick> stepz_: I'm trying to think of a way to make dpkg more verbose.
[03:27] <BigPick> There is a way I just can't remember... ack!
[03:28] <nathan> i dunno if ya'll remember me from last night, well i reinstalled kubuntu . ran memtest for 13 hours .. and and faults, started up kubuntu and everything is working!!!
[03:28] <nathan> must of somehow installed corrupted some how
[03:29] <nathan> wine installed, vid,nic,sound all good didn't need to touch anything :D
[03:29] <nathan> and and faults = and _NOT_ faults ;)
[03:29] <nathan> -T
[03:30] <BigPick> stepz_: Ah, just got an idea... hang on..
[03:30] <stepz_> -D3773
[03:31] <stepz_> outputed lots of stuff
[03:31] <stepz_> by which I found where the postinst script is
[03:31] <nathan> !installing steam
[03:31] <nathan> !steam
[03:31] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[03:31] <nathan> .... noo ! :/
[03:31] <stepz_>   my $ret = system("$ramdisk " . ($upgrading ? "-u" : "-c") . " -k " . $version . " >&2");
[03:32] <BigPick> stepz_: No its not in the scripts! I just remembered a change that was make to the initramfs-tools that would effect how you setup your cryptography.
[03:33] <BigPick> stepz_: remove the line "ramdisk = /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs" from /etc/kernel-img.conf
[03:34] <stepz_> \o/
[03:35] <BigPick> Did it work?
[03:35] <stepz_> seems so
[03:35] <BigPick> AHAHAHH!!!!
[03:35]  * BigPick dances around room.
[03:35] <stepz_> great success!
[03:35] <BigPick> Boy that was a noggin scratcher.
[03:35] <MagicCow> How do you start compiz?
[03:35] <stepz_> in hindsight seems obvious
[03:36] <MagicCow> I've followed the install instructions, but nothing seems to happen.
[03:36] <BigPick> hindsight 20/20 :P
[03:36] <stepz_> anyway, how do I resume the rest of the upgrade?
[03:36] <BigPick> I realized "-c" is an option passed to update-initramfs, which is now the default setup utility.
[03:37] <stepz_> I was inches away from deducing that myself when I saw a comment that said update-initramfs is called differently from mkinitrd
[03:37] <BigPick> MagicCow: run "sudo compiz-start"
[03:38] <BigPick> stepz_: I am very interested in setting up an encrypted filesystem on this laptop myself.
[03:38] <]glow[> Hi, I have a smartphone (Audiovox SMT5600) with a Windows Mobile 5.0 operating system. I have Kubuntu feisty fawn. I installed Raki to try to connect to it via USB, but the phone is not being detected, any tips? any other chat room where to ask this same question?
[03:39] <BigPick> stepz_: But I have been heretofore too timid to attempt it LMAO.
[03:40] <MagicCow> Command not found.
[03:40] <stepz_> BigPick: I had to change a script in that howto to wait for the hdd module to get loaded before doing cryptsetup
[03:40] <stepz_> I had to choose between either attempting to do it or using Windows
[03:40] <lordofthepigs> Hello! Can amarok record mp3 streamed from online radios?
[03:40] <stepz_> managed to weasel my way out of getting cryptsetup working with smartcards
[03:41] <stepz_> anyway, encrypted filesystem is pretty much a must have for work laptops, I'm amazed that the installer doesn't support them yet
[03:41] <BigPick> MagicCow: oops, sorry I guess its just "sudo compiz" now.
[03:42] <BigPick> ]glow[: Have you tried ksyncekonnector yet?
[03:43] <BigPick> stepz_: It was on the roadmap for the gutsy release. However I do not think it made it in.
[03:44] <nathan> from the desktop whats cmd to navigate to wine c:/ ??
[03:44] <BigPick> stepz_: Is you entire filesystem encrypted? Or do you have to have something like the /boot partition unecrypted.
[03:44] <stepz_> you need to have /boot unencrypted
[03:44] <stepz_> otherwise there isn't any code to do the unencryption
[03:44] <BigPick> stepz_: Yeah, that makes sense :P
[03:45] <BigPick> stepz_: Wait, yeah... how else could it... I need to go to bed :)
[03:49] <nathan> whats cmd to install instmsia.exe which is in drive_c .. wine ?
[03:50] <BigPick> Sorry, I don't use wine :(
[03:50] <nathan> :|
[03:52] <se7en^Of^9> does someone know what linux the Asus Eee PC runs?
[03:52] <ses59_> i upgraded to gutsy and just wanted to check that what i am running is gutsy but could find how to tell what is running on my machine
[03:53] <ses59_> tried uname but it did not show the name just linux
[03:53] <MagicCow> !compiz
[03:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:54] <ses59_> gave version number but not the kubuntu version
[03:54] <BigPick> ses59_: I just had to do this a couple days ago... god why can't I remember anything tonight!
[03:55] <anton__> Hello there, my screen just turned incredibly dark. Menus and "boxes that come up whern you hover over a file" are bright, though...Any idea why?
[03:55] <posingaspopular> lsb_release -a
[03:55] <anton__> me?
[03:56] <posingaspopular> ses59_:
[03:56] <posingaspopular> sorry anton__, i should have refrenced that to ses59_. i dont know how to answer your question. apologies
[03:57] <anton__> No problem dude. Does anyone else have a clue? My compiz-fusion seems to have stopped working, also
[03:57] <BigPick> ses59_: Ack, lemme look it up...
[03:57] <se7en^Of^9> does someone know what linux the Asus Eee PC runs?
[03:58] <ses59_> ok lsb_release did show what i wanted but -a showed no lsb modules available
[03:59] <anton__> Ok, problem solved for now. did the compiz --replace command
[03:59] <ses59_> sorry did not test first the lsb_release showed no lsb modules are available but with the -a it listed gutsy as my version
[04:01] <BigPick> ses59: Ah, I come back and you have already found it. Excelent :)
[04:02] <ses59_> thank you posingaspopular and BigPick
[04:02] <BigPick> ses59_: Yes, lsb_release was how I accomplished that.
[04:03] <BigPick> I just had a major brainfart and convinced myself it wasn't... and with that I'm going to go to bed... because I'm just gone...
[04:03] <BigPick> Goodnight!
[04:04] <MagicCow>  I've been over the forums, none of the solutions helped me.. maybe one of you guys have a clue. When I run Emerald Themer, I double click a theme, and nothing happens. I do not belive that compiz is running, but when I type "compiz" into terminal, I get
[04:04] <MagicCow> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[04:04] <posingaspopular> se7en^Of^9: xandrox linux
[04:04] <posingaspopular> np ses59_
[04:05] <nathan> how do i load a .msi file it says bad exe ?? its steam.msi btw
[04:07] <nathan> do i do it through terminal or wine app ?
[04:07] <rgreening> nathan: wine Start file.msi
[04:07] <rgreening> run this from command line(konsole)
[04:08] <nathan> works great, thanks
[04:08] <rgreening> np
[04:08] <rgreening> :)
[04:08] <nathan> do i need to install any fonts as i can't see text lol :P
[04:09] <rgreening> Yes and no...
[04:09] <rgreening> If you get the latest wine from winehq, then no. It will work.
[04:09] <rgreening> If you use the ine in the default repo, you need tahoma font
[04:09] <nathan> i have latest wine i think, 0.9.46
[04:10] <rgreening> 0.9.48
[04:10] <se7en^Of^9> posingaspopular: xandrox is comercial isn't it?
[04:11] <rgreening> nathan: create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[04:11] <rgreening> nathan: in it put the following:
[04:11] <rgreening> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 7.10 "GutsyGibbon"deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon"
[04:11] <rgreening> then update again
[04:11] <rgreening> you'll get 0.9.48 wine and no need for tahoma font
[04:12] <nathan> sorry im noob, so do i go into /etc/apt/sources.list/ and create winehq.list ?
[04:13] <rgreening> yes
[04:14] <Les_Caesars> how do I clear my recent history?
[04:14] <Les_Caesars> recent documents*
[04:14] <rgreening> nathan: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:15] <rgreening> nathan: that might be easier to do
[04:15] <nathan> kk
[04:15] <rgreening> complete step by step
[04:15] <rgreening> :)
[04:20] <nathan> that was weird, i did wine start steaminstall.msi and it logged ne out
[04:20] <nathan> and im still not seeing text :(
[04:21] <posingaspopular> hey guys, how do i remove the system beep?
[04:21] <posingaspopular> se7en^Of^9: no clue
[04:24] <nathan> after i do: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list ----- do i restart the computer ? or shouldn't need to ?
[04:24] <Les_Caesars> how do I clear my recent documents?
[04:24] <hydrogen> nathan: no need
[04:24] <hydrogen> just sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <nathan> ok
[04:24] <rgreening> nathan: this isn't windows :) no need to restart (unless something EXLICITLY says to)
[04:24] <nathan> ok great
[04:24] <ardchoille> nathan: Very little will require you to restart the computer.. unless your doing some kind of work with the kernel.
[04:25] <rgreening> exactly
[04:25] <posingaspopular> se7en^Of^9: it appears that they are commerical
[04:25] <nathan> ok well how do i manually add the steam font as the 'wine update' didn't fix it :(
[04:26] <nathan> neither winehq.list or sudo apt-get update (neither fixed the no font issue)
[04:27] <ardchoille> nathan: kcontrol > System Administration > Font Installer
[04:27] <rgreening> nathan: winserver -k
[04:27] <rgreening> wineserver -k
[04:28] <hydrogen> you need to update wine
[04:28] <hydrogen> (sudo apt-get upgrade)
[04:28] <rgreening> nathan: you have to restart the wineserver
[04:28] <rgreening> otherwise, its still running the old files
[04:29] <nathan> yeah the version is the same as before ? i restarted wineserver . no luck :(
[04:29] <rgreening> did you update via package manager
[04:29] <rgreening> or run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[04:30] <rgreening> adding the repo only adds new package lists and not update
[04:30] <rgreening> you have to re-run the updater to get the new wine
[04:31] <rgreening> from konsole, if you type wine --version, what do you get
[04:31] <nathan> wine --version
[04:31] <nathan> wine-0.9.46
[04:31] <rgreening> so, you didn't update yet
[04:31] <hydrogen> sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:32] <nathan> when i type apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it says:
[04:32] <nathan> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:32] <ardchoille> nathan: use sudo
[04:32] <rgreening> nathan: yeah
[04:32] <rgreening> sudo...
[04:32] <rgreening> it requires admin rights
[04:32] <rgreening> or run Adept from K-menu
[04:32] <nathan> ok sweet its updating something now
[04:33] <rgreening> lol
[04:33] <nathan> hehe im such a noob
[04:33] <rgreening> then don't forget to run wineserver -k after
[04:33] <nathan> kk
[04:33] <rgreening> then you should be fine
[04:33] <rgreening> :P
[04:33] <nathan> :D
[04:34] <nathan> sweet it is now working all good :D cheers
[04:36] <rgreening> :)
[04:36] <rgreening> good stuff
[04:37] <crxyem> anyone know where I can get help with konversation irc client ??
[04:37] <biovore> try #konversation
[04:38] <posingaspopular> crxyem: i can try.,..
[04:39] <nathan> one more hurdle it seems, "Wine Gecko Installer" wants to install HTML something a rather from mozilla.. says "Steam.exe (main exception): Win32 StructuredException at 7B98EF6D : Attempt to read virtual address 68 without appropriate access rights,
[04:39] <crxyem> posingaspopular: Iwas wondering if there were any add-on script sites out there?
[04:40] <crxyem> I'm not proficient enough in bash or pearl to write my own
[04:41] <rgreening> nathan: runt this... wine iexplore winehq.org
[04:41] <rgreening> it will install gecko for you
[04:41] <rgreening> there's lots of info on the winehq page on setting up wine for the first time
[04:41] <posingaspopular> ah yea, i am SURE there are.
[04:42] <posingaspopular> i duno where they are though
[04:42] <posingaspopular> so yea maybe irc has it's own IRC chan
[04:42] <posingaspopular> it has to, i mean of course it does. it's only logical. they might know in there
[04:42] <stuartmoffatDOTc> khaled mardem is probably their
[04:42] <stuartmoffatDOTc> #mircofficial irc.mirc.co.uk
[04:42] <stuartmoffatDOTc> lol
[04:43] <stuartmoffatDOTc> imagine :P
[04:53] <hydrogen> ..
[04:53] <hydrogen> mirc is not irc
[04:53] <hydrogen> as much as script kiddies everywhere would like to believe it
[04:54] <nathan> when i installed steam, it make a Steam.Ink file on the desktop, is it safe to delete it?
[04:54] <hydrogen> yes
[04:54] <nathan> ok
[04:57] <KalEl> Is there a Rapid Application Development tool bundled in Kubuntu?
[04:57] <biovore> kdevelop?
[05:03] <nathan> it appears my vid card drivers aren't installed, is there a cmd i should type to install / dl then? vid card is an asus 800 256mb
[05:04] <nathan> !drivers
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <nathan> !video card
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <nathan> !nvidia
[05:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:06] <nathan> never mind for now :D
[05:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install domino theme?
[05:08] <biovore> I don't think domino works on kde 3.5.8
[05:10] <TAC> someone know some chanel in spanish??
[05:11] <posingaspopular> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:12] <TAC> muchas gracias
[05:15] <cynewave> Anyone else having problems with 7.1 locking up?
[05:15] <biovore> nope..
[05:15] <cynewave> Good for everyone else - bad for me
[05:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install domino theme?
[05:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cynewave: you have compiz running with gears in cube
[05:16] <biovore> I don't think domino works on kde 3.5.8
[05:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> biovore: it does tell me how to install it
[05:16] <Demiwar> help i installed limewire and now i have no sound
[05:16] <ChaosMachine> So  when is the last tiem you guys hugged someone?
[05:17] <cynewave> ?
[05:17] <Jester45> today why?
[05:17] <Jester45> offtopic a bit
[05:17] <biovore> you sure..  The lastest version won't build for kde-3.5.8 here..  depends on headers that no-longer are around..
[05:17] <cynewave> I don't think I am running compiz
[05:17] <Demiwar> on sound need help
[05:19] <Demiwar> need a littel help on audio
[05:22] <cynewave> ATOM - I'm not running Compiz
[05:22] <cynewave> My system locks up when Ithe screen saver starts or if I leave it sitting for a period of time without the screensaver
[05:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cynewave: do you have superkarmaba themes running?
[05:25] <nathan> another noob question, how to get my mic to work lol, sound works.. just mic doesn't
[05:25] <cynewave> no - I have the plain jane vanilla install
[05:25] <biovore> depends on your sound card..
[05:25] <nathan> its sound blaster audigy
[05:25] <biovore> which one?
[05:25] <biovore> lspci..
[05:25] <nathan> old sound card
[05:25] <cynewave> and here is the kicker - I have installed this on 3 different machines with the same result
[05:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install domino theme?
[05:25] <biovore> yeah.. I have an audigy 2 here..
[05:26] <cynewave> The only one that psuedo works is my laptop
[05:26] <nathan> looks exactly like this one: http://www.biocomp.net/sound_blaster.jpg
[05:26] <biovore> thats a live.. not an audigy
[05:26] <nathan> ok my bad
[05:27] <biovore> those should work though..
[05:27] <biovore> To get the mic to work though is kind of a pain..
[05:27] <nathan> in cs the mic doesn't work at all, like i press the mic key.. and the icon doesn't even come up
[05:27] <biovore> well got to get the mic working first in the linux mixer..
[05:28] <biovore> make sure you have wine running under alsa
[05:34]  * biovore farts
[05:35] <biovore> wrong window..
[05:35] <cynewave> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Are you running 7.1?
[05:35] <cynewave> AT0M1CB0MB3R: with KDE?
[05:36] <cynewave> Are most of the people here running 7.1?
[05:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yeah cynewave
[05:38] <MagicCow> !compiz
[05:38] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !domino
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <biovore> google on "kde domino"
[05:40] <biovore> but domino won't build on kde-3.5.8 worked on feisty... not on gusty...  won't work untill there is a domino update..
[05:44] <biovore> hehe.. I think I got domino to work..  There headers that are missing are in another package..
[05:46] <biovore> apt-get install build-essential kdesdk kdebase-dev, then download the source for domino, ./configure --prefix=/usr &  make & sudo make install
[05:47] <biovore> Extreamly under-details notes..
[05:56] <nathan> when i terminal alsamixer, there is no microphone setting (i did unmute all though) so yeah eh *_*
[05:57] <Dr_willis> that mixer often has a lot of settings 'off the screen' to the right side..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> be sure you explore it all. :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> my audigy2zs has like 30+ sliders.. No idea what they all do
[05:59] <nathan> kk :D
[05:59] <Dry_Ice> Linux rocks!!!!
[05:59] <nathan> awesome, you're right lol
[05:59] <Dry_Ice> :D
[05:59] <Dry_Ice> my rl name is nathan...
[05:59] <Dry_Ice> but u stealz it :P
[06:00] <nathan> keke :D
[06:02] <nathan> if it says MM - that mean's it is muted yeah?
[06:02] <Dry_Ice> ?
[06:02] <Dry_Ice> MM in linux?
[06:02] <Dry_Ice> or in irc?
[06:03] <nathan> in terminal
[06:04] <nathan> alsamixer
[06:04] <Dry_Ice> hmmm
[06:04] <MagicCow> !compiz
[06:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:04] <Dry_Ice> idk...i'm a linux n00b
[06:08] <ronin_> Any ATI users still up?
[06:09] <Dry_Ice> !download
[06:09] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[06:10] <xstat> hello, i have some troubles using traceroute6: it allways says 'unknown host' even if i specify a ip address... ping, nslookup, and internet in general works ok, do you know where the problem could be at?
[06:17] <Dry_Ice> !kubuntu
[06:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:23] <]glow[> Hi, I'm trying to follow this how-to: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/howto.php#usbinfo to connect my smartphone (audiovox SMT5600 with WM5) to my feisty fawn - and I'm stuck
[06:24] <]glow[> step 4, in "the driver entry" says: "If you got no output from the modprobe command (meaning it succeeded), restart this HOWTO from the Find out USB information about your device section." I repeat the steps in "Find out Usb info..." and I get the same results as before
[06:25] <]glow[> i get "Driver=(none)"
[06:26] <]glow[> by the way, i don't care about synching, I just want to copy files manually to my phone =( (txt files)
[06:30] <nathan> hey guys, so i copied Live for speed demo(game) from my other pc(win. xp) and the game loads under wine, how do i add a folder + start icon in Start>Wine>Programs - menu?
[06:31] <Dry_Ice> sorry
[06:31] <Dry_Ice> i'm a linux n00b
[06:32] <Dry_Ice> i'm only 44.4MB into my kubuntu download :P
[06:32] <Dry_Ice> ok, i lied...44.5MB
[06:32] <Dry_Ice> of 697MB
[06:33] <shadewick> how do I set up a wireless card for the new kubuntu release?
[06:33] <shadewick> I have a HP dv2047cl
[06:38] <bangpijar> test,
[06:39] <nathan> whats equivilent(sp) to Vertical SYNC lock in windows xp on kubuntu, as my fps will not go past 50fps in Live for speed (where as before I was exceeding 250fps in windows xp)
[06:39] <nathan> i unlocked fps lock in LFS
[06:46] <biovore> nathan: nvidia card?
[06:48] <biovore> If you got a nvidia driver.. you can turn of vertical sync by running the "nvidia-settings" program
[06:50] <nathan> how to run it
[06:50] <nathan> through terminal ?
[06:50] <emuse> anybody try the latest amd ati driver?
[06:50] <nathan> nm got it :)
[06:52] <Dry_Ice> i feel left out :P
[06:53] <Dry_Ice> such a n00b like me...
[06:53] <nathan> when i click "Save to X Configuration File" it says "Unable to create new X Config backup file '/etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup'"
[06:53] <Dry_Ice> ok, night/morning guys :D
[06:54] <Dry_Ice> cy'all l8er
[06:54] <nathan> !pastebin
[06:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <tuxmaster1988> Why does kmix not have mute leds for individual channels
[06:55] <nathan> bivore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43091/ tahts the error i get when i save?
[06:58] <tuxmaster1988> really need help with kmix
[07:01] <wilson_> what do you mean individial channels ? mine has individual leds ??!?!?
[07:01] <tuxmaster1988> Yea
[07:02] <tuxmaster1988> I got Master, PCM, wave, ect
[07:02] <tuxmaster1988> but no mutes for each
[07:02] <tuxmaster1988> in ubuntu i do
[07:02] <tuxmaster1988> but not kubuntu
[07:03] <wilson_> wel that's weird, on mine there's the output tab, pcm you can't mute, but all the others you can
[07:03] <wilson_> Front, Front Mic, Line, etc
[07:03] <tuxmaster1988> <<<thats my problem
[07:03] <tuxmaster1988> I got an audigy 4
[07:03] <tuxmaster1988> works great in GNOME systems
[07:03] <tuxmaster1988> but on any linux with kde
[07:03] <tuxmaster1988> no mutes
[07:03] <wilson_> weird
[07:04] <tuxmaster1988> <<<tried PCLInuxos, yoper, kubuntu,
[07:04] <tuxmaster1988> <<<Desktop BSDs kmix has mutes
[07:04] <tuxmaster1988> but bsd is a turd
[07:04] <tuxmaster1988> so i need to stay in linux
[07:04] <nathan> anyone know how to increase FPS in games ie; if kubuntu has vsyn on, how to turn it off etc
[07:05] <wilson_> there's nothing stopping you from running a kde desktop with the gnome mixer
[07:05] <wilson_> just need to install it and figure out the name of it
[07:05] <tuxmaster1988> but then i need all those gnome librarys
[07:05] <tuxmaster1988> ewww
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you have a SEVERE lack of hard drive space, don't whine about it.
[07:06] <Daisuke_Ido> not gnome, it has COOTIES!
[07:06] <emuse> nathan:need to install the vedio driver correctly, or buy a better vedio card
[07:06] <tuxmaster1988> yea but why would i want 2 desktop enviroments
[07:07] <emuse> nathan:what is vsyn
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> libraries != gnome
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't have to install all of gnome to get a gtk mixer
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> OR, you could just use alsamixer from a console.  IT has mutes
[07:07] <nathan> vertical sync
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> and there's also no harm in having multiple DEs
[07:07] <nathan> but the thing is, when i was using windows XP i was getting over 250FPS.. now im barely getting 80FPS :/
[07:07] <tuxmaster1988> whats the best sound card for linux, that has hardware mixing
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because XP lies
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> it won't make the system run any slower, you're only using one DE at a time.
[07:08] <tuxmaster1988> <<<i think it might be my audigy 4
[07:08] <nathan> somehow i think kubuntu us limiting my fps
[07:08] <tuxmaster1988> thats causing kmix to go awol
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> that's possible
[07:09] <wilson_> well if it works in gome but not kde there's something fruity going on
[07:09] <tuxmaster1988> lol @ fruity
[07:09] <tuxmaster1988> so what would be better
[07:09] <emuse> Daisuke:maybe the driver in windows get a better performace
[07:09] <tuxmaster1988> <<<really likes hardware mixing
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> emuse: maybe both drivers are based on the same code!
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[07:10] <emuse> Daisuke:considering ati driver
[07:10] <tuxmaster1988> ewwww ati
[07:11] <tuxmaster1988> nvidia forever, i figureed out with a quickness that new ati cards dont work so well in linux
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> emuse: two things.  dai<tab>.  nick completion, it's your friend, and the only way i really pay attention to messages addressed to me.  2) ati's driver sucks in windows as well, it's just that there's less difference between the suckage of the dirver and the suckage of the os.  this is also why nvidia's driver seems flawless in windows.
[07:12] <tuxmaster1988> lol
[07:12] <wilson_> ati seem to have better designed gpus, but yeah, the drivers
[07:13] <tuxmaster1988> <<<still needs a good soundcard
[07:13] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxmaster1988: as for you - ati's releasing all of their reference specs to the open source community.  by this time next year, if not earlier, the drivers for ati cards in linux will wipe the floor with nvidia (and that really hurts to say, i've been an nvidia fan since the gf2 line)
[07:13] <tuxmaster1988> noooooooo NEVER
[07:14] <emuse> Daisuke_Ido: sorry,i am new to irc.now i get it.
[07:14] <tuxmaster1988> over my dead body
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> emuse: no problems, just makes it easier to see messages
[07:14] <tuxmaster1988> <<<has a ati 9600 and it runs like crud in linux
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxmaster1988: it runs like crud *right now*
[07:14] <wilson_> i dunno the HT Omega STRIKER 7.1 DTS looks ok but I have no idea if it's supported in linux
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> give it time :)
[07:14] <tuxmaster1988> i love my nvidia 5500
[07:14] <tuxmaster1988> audigy 4 is iffy i think
[07:14] <Daisuke_Ido> 7600gs :D
[07:15] <tuxmaster1988> but i dont no what works better
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> and do NOT go with an xfi
[07:15] <tuxmaster1988> i know lol
[07:15] <Daisuke_Ido> which is a shame
[07:15] <tuxmaster1988> linux + bleeding edge hardware = DEATH
[07:16] <tuxmaster1988> is the audigy se anygood?
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxmaster1988: again, that's a right now thing.  with ubuntu gaining market share, and one of the largest pc retailers supporting it, you're starting to see vendors take more interest in making sure their hardware works right in linux.  ati's a good first example of that
[07:17] <tuxmaster1988> <<<wants to be in kubuntu, but soundcard is being finicky, and i noticed that most of my games dont work in ubuntu so i just dont know at this point
[07:18] <tuxmaster1988> in 7.04 everything was great
[07:18] <tuxmaster1988> 7.10 is well, um.......ew
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> it's new
[07:18] <tuxmaster1988> kubuntu 7.04 works with my audigy 5
[07:18] <tuxmaster1988> 4^
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> then there's no reason 7.10 shouldn't...  i would recommend enabling the backport and proposed repositories, see what comes of that
[07:20] <wilson_> C-media CMI 8788 based cards seem ok
[07:20] <tuxmaster1988> hardware mixing?
[07:20] <wilson_> there's that thing http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-meridian.php
[07:20] <wilson_> it won't have the dolby support under linux though
[07:21] <tuxmaster1988> dang 70 proposed updates
[07:21] <tuxmaster1988> <<<gets a reinstalled disc ready
[07:22] <tuxmaster1988> <<<salutes his pc one last time and tells backports to do their stuff (hopefully)
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> tuxmaster1988: may want to check to see if there's an updated kmix in that bunch
[07:23] <tuxmaster1988> <<<in ubuntu
[07:23] <tuxmaster1988> <<<<still deciding between  mandriva and kubuntu or mayby mepis......i hate the fact theirs a million distros
[07:23] <tuxmaster1988> I love at least 10 distros
[07:24] <tuxmaster1988> its like picky puppys
[07:24] <tuxmaster1988> picking^^
[07:24] <tuxmaster1988> <<<likes mepis it uses the debian repos... but then mandriva is really solid, but kubuntu is improved debian! errr confusing...
[07:26] <emuse> tuxmaster1988: i use the kubuntu,it work perfect. so it is enough
[07:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install avant window manager
[07:32] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> navigator?
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> gutsy?
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> last i knew, you don't, there are major incompatibilities
[07:38] <eagles0513875> how do i fix this
[07:38] <eagles0513875> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[07:38] <eagles0513875> Reading package lists... Done
[07:38] <eagles0513875> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:38] <nathan> just wondering why i get "Is LFS currently installed on your hard drive" when i created a submenu / item to load Live for speed(LFS)
[07:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i installed awn but it wont startup
[07:46] <emuse> AT0M1CB0MB3R: is there a package called awn,i can't find it in apt-get
[07:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> emuse: wha?
[07:47] <x4245> hello
[07:47] <lespea> wtf is awn?
[07:47] <waylandbill> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what is awn and where did you get it?
[07:47] <ubuntu> Hola
[07:48] <x4245> can anyone tell me a smb client, konqueror cant upload files to the share
[07:48] <waylandbill> x4245: you can try smb4k
[07:48] <x4245> i did
[07:48] <x4245> didnt work
[07:48] <x4245> i need to upload files to a smb share , share is from a windows machine
[07:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> waylandbill: its avant window navigator
[07:51] <waylandbill> x4245: can it be that you don't have write permission?
[07:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i make my icons bigger
[07:51] <lespea> x4245: what exactly is the error you're getting?
[07:52] <x4245> waylandbill: i have write permissions on the share, when i open the share, it asks for password, i give it and it allows me connection, i can download anything from the share into me hdd, but whenever i create a new folder or copy a file into the share, konqueror tells me that it cant create it. but i can do it fine under a vm.
[07:53] <x4245> i have a xp based vm installed, with it i can create any folder into share
[07:53] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> dang vm is to scary for me :[
[07:54] <x4245> there are many packages in the repos for smb
[07:54] <matahari> hi
[07:55] <x4245> is there anyone that can upload files perfectly
[07:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so nobody can help me with making my icons bigger
[07:55] <eagles0513875> x4245: i have yet to try my friend has a windows ftp server
[07:55] <eagles0513875> i could try right now
[07:56] <matahari> i have absolutely no sound in gutsy - using an intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) sound controller....
[07:56] <matahari> i already activated the backports and install linux-backports-modules - but still no effort
[07:56] <eagles0513875> x4245: his server is down am i have no way of trying anything
[07:56] <x4245> eagles0513875: all right
[07:57] <x4245> eagles0513875: can u recommend any package from ubuntu repos for me , or from anywhere else?
[07:57] <eagles0513875> x4245: is this ur own personal windows  server
[07:57] <x4245> yea
[07:58] <eagles0513875> x4245: the only thing i can think of is using samba
[07:58] <eagles0513875> !samba
[07:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:58] <twager> /part
[07:59] <eagles0513875> x4245:wait
[07:59] <x4245> eagles0513875: as a client?
[07:59] <eagles0513875> x4245: u want read write access on a windows machine right
[07:59] <x4245> eagles0513875: i aleady have write access, i just cant write into it using konqueror
[08:00] <x4245> eagles0513875: also tried smb4k, it didnt work either
[08:00] <eagles0513875> x4245: on ur linux box can u see ur windows partition
[08:00] <eagles0513875> x4245: can u see the partition u wanna copy stuff 2
[08:00] <x4245> eagles0513875: yes
[08:00] <eagles0513875> !ntfs3g
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <eagles0513875> u need to download ntfs3g
[08:01] <x4245> eagles0513875: the server ison a different pc
[08:01] <x4245> eagles0513875: not my own
[08:01] <eagles0513875> x4245: u cant use ntfs3g for different computers
[08:01] <socketbind> hi, i have a lock and web browser button on my notebook and i cant make it work : \
[08:02] <x4245> eagles0513875: i know, thats why i m asking how can i upload files into my server share, as konqueror does not create folders or copy files into the share
[08:02] <socketbind> but the strange thing is that the mapping is properly set up
[08:02] <raylu> can anyone tell me what I need to do to get wireless working on a Acer Aspire 5670? Searching the forums gives me varied results and I haven't even confirmed the chipset yet
[08:02] <eagles0513875> raylu: what kinda card
[08:02] <raylu> x4245, is your "server share" ftp or nfs or...what?
[08:02] <raylu> eagles0513875, that's what I'm wondering :(
[08:02] <x4245> raylu: smb, i.e, windows share
[08:03] <eagles0513875> raylu: ur running linux on there right
[08:03] <raylu> yes
[08:03] <eagles0513875> ryanakca:
[08:03] <raylu> x4245, is the samba host a linux or win box?
[08:03] <x4245> raylu: win box
[08:03] <eagles0513875> raylu: the open up the command line
[08:03] <x4245> raylu: it is using windows's own sharing, i donot have a samba server instaled on it.
[08:04] <raylu> x4245, i'm guessing you have the share mounted and you're accessing it in konq?
[08:04] <raylu> eagles0513875, yes?
[08:04] <eagles0513875> raylu: then type in lspci it should bring a list of all ur devices and somewhere in there should be ur wifi
[08:04] <matahari> hi
[08:04] <x4245> raylu: i dont have it mounted per se, i just point konqueror to goto smb://my_machine/
[08:05] <x4245> raylu: it can access the share that way.
[08:05] <raylu> oh. is this gusty?
[08:05] <raylu> eagles0513875, ah, right; thanks
[08:06] <socketbind> i have successfully mapped my web button keycode to XF86WWW but it never opens a browser window, is there any way to fix it?
[08:06] <raylu> intel pro/wireless 3945/abg
[08:06] <nathan> im using aMSN and all my contacts text's are blurry / unreadable, how to fix?
[08:06] <raylu> x4245, the feisty ioslave for smb was kinda messed up; is mounting it an option?
[08:07] <x4245> raylu: ill check
[08:07] <raylu> er...
[08:07] <raylu> what?
[08:07] <lg188> hello evrybody
[08:07] <socketbind> raylu: both 3965 and 4965 intel wireless works perfectly on my notebooks
[08:07] <raylu> =\ by "an option," i mean will you do it?
[08:07] <raylu> socketbind, it doesn't even detect it as a device
[08:07] <socketbind> raylu: it doesnt need any configuration just works for me
[08:07] <eagles0513875> raylu: sry bout that my  java ide hung on me what was the last thing u said
[08:08] <socketbind> raylu, is this a clean gutsy install?
 eagles0513875, ah, right; thanks
[08:08] <raylu> socketbind, still livecd, actually
[08:08] <eagles0513875> raylu: what kinda card is urs out of curiosity
[08:08] <socketbind> raylu, well thats all i can say, it is strange because i have a notebook with 4965 and an other one with 3965 and it works perfectly with gutsy
[08:08] <raylu> 3945/abg
[08:09] <eagles0513875> raylu: and once u get it installed a dialogue should pop up allowing u to enable any restricted drivers
[08:09] <eagles0513875> tahts what it did for me and i got my wifi and open gl working out of the box just about
[08:09] <socketbind> nope, iwlwifi is not a restricted driver
[08:09] <socketbind> and it wont cause the restricted driver manager to pop up
[08:09] <x4245> thanks guys
[08:10] <x4245> it worked now, looks like i didnt have smbfs installed
[08:10] <x4245> i installed it and now konqueror works fine.
[08:10] <raylu> o.0
[08:10] <eagles0513875> x4245: what u have to do to fix it
[08:10] <raylu> iwlwifi?
[08:10] <eagles0513875> raylu: u didnt get a box allowing u to enable restricted drivers
[08:10] <x4245> didnt know that smbfs was needed for file uploading
[08:11] <socketbind> raylu: yeah thats the new wifi driver for these wifi cards with intel chipset, specifically 3965 and 4965
[08:11] <raylu> eagles0513875, haven't installed it yet; i want to make sure wireless works
[08:11] <raylu> socketbind, er...what's the package name?
[08:11] <eagles0513875> raylu: i think the only way thats goign to happen is if u try
[08:11] <raylu> eagles0513875, er...no
[08:11] <socketbind> raylu, it is part of the kernel
[08:11] <lg188> waltzing is a 3 days away sombody knows a reason for it ?
[08:11] <socketbind> shipped by default
[08:11] <eagles0513875> raylu: lol wait im an idiot forgot u can try live cd
[08:12] <eagles0513875> lg188: ?
[08:12] <socketbind> check your dmesg
[08:12] <socketbind> mine reads as:
[08:12] <socketbind> [   35.264000] iwl4965: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
[08:12] <eagles0513875> alot of the intel stuff works out of the box
[08:12] <eagles0513875> mine on the other hand lol
[08:12] <socketbind> yeah, and so should work raylu's work too
[08:13] <raylu> ahhhahhaha.
[08:13] <raylu> dmesg | grep wire said that
[08:13] <raylu> the radio kill switch was on =\
[08:13] <raylu> "Kill switch must be off for wireless to work"
[08:13] <raylu> so...i turned the wireless switch on...and...yeah...I feel like a moron now
[08:13] <socketbind> yeah, and do you have a hardware wireless switch?
[08:13] <socketbind> : )))
[08:14] <socketbind> ahem well glad it turned out well
[08:14] <socketbind> haha
[08:14] <raylu> ^^
[08:15] <socketbind> now can anybody answer why kmilo doesn't handle the XF86WWW altogether?
[08:15] <socketbind> i got my web button mapped to XF86WWW and it doesnt open even a darned web browser window :\
[08:15] <socketbind> xev says that it is recognized as XF86WWW
[08:15] <lg188> eagles0513875 he is for 3 days nothing to say that i know sow....
[08:16] <socketbind> judging my kmilo source it gets handled by the generic plugin but why it doesnt work at all?
[08:17] <socketbind> i'm starting to lose my sanity with this thing
[08:17] <raylu> iirc, there is a khotkeys or something similar
[08:18] <matahari> can it be, that kubuntu changed something in my BIOS config?
[08:18] <raylu> that was definitely not the right window
[08:18] <socketbind> volume controls are even better they set the bad channel
[08:18] <raylu> socketbind, change your master channel?
[08:19] <x4245> hey, anyone know a good streaming server for linux
[08:19] <socketbind> changed, he insists that he must change the "Headphone" channel even after setting master to "Front"
[08:20] <socketbind> what do you want to stream and through which protocol?
[08:20] <x4245> socketbind: udp if possible
[08:20] <x4245> socketbind: but tcp if nothing else
[08:20] <raylu> so...what do you want to stream?
[08:20] <x4245> socketbind: there are many, as i have only been using the streaming server that comes with windows servers
[08:21] <socketbind> im not too experienced about that : \ do those thing use the mms protocol?
[08:21] <x4245> raylu: files, videos, though, its only for my LAN, so bandwidth is not an issue
[08:21] <raylu> o.0 streaming files
[08:21] <lg188> wat are jour comments for games ?
[08:21] <socketbind> ah nope
[08:22] <raylu> when the gusty installer partitioner tells you it's going to resize a partition in guided mode
[08:22] <raylu> is that the size of the old one or of the new one?
[08:22] <socketbind> dont you mean a upnp media server x4245?
[08:22] <socketbind> like windows media  connect is?
[08:22] <raylu> x4245, for video, i used lanovision, but it's a windows thing. then again, it was coded in python...
[08:22] <Repsa_Jih> lg188: There are a few good games these days, but it's a little hard to find them
[08:22] <raylu> there's also vls, the vlc server
[08:22] <eagles0513875> raylu: if its python it should work
[08:22] <eagles0513875> here i dont seey why it shouldnt
[08:22] <lg188> Repsa_Jih and wich are they
[08:23] <eagles0513875> i really need a dev machine
[08:23] <x4245> ok, ill check out lanovision
[08:23] <raylu> you can still code python to work only in windows, though i see no reason why that'd be
[08:23] <x4245> problem is that most of my network pc's use windows
[08:23] <raylu> that's not a problem :D well, if you use lanovision, that is
[08:23] <socketbind> x4245, what was the name of the stuff you used on windows?
[08:24] <x4245> socketbind: its the windows media server, the one that comes with windows 2003 server
[08:24] <Repsa_Jih> lg188: see private chat
[08:24] <socketbind> i dont think that you need vls or darwin for that
[08:24] <lg188> Repsa_Jih kk
[08:24] <socketbind> you need a upnp media server
[08:24] <x4245> socketbind: where can i get it?
[08:24] <socketbind> there are multiple implementations and the free ones are pretty bad
[08:24] <raylu> when the gusty installer partitioner tells you it's going to resize a partition in guided mode
[08:24] <raylu> is that the size of the old one or of the new one?
[08:25] <socketbind> there is gmediaserver for instance x4245
[08:25] <x4245> raylu: i think its the old one
[08:25] <x4245> socketbind: ok, ill check it out.
[08:25] <socketbind> but it didnt worked for me with windows media player 11
[08:25] <matahari> could it be, that kubuntu changed something in my BIOS config?
[08:26] <socketbind> matahari: i dont think so
[08:26] <socketbind> i could hardly imagine that
[08:26] <matahari> socketbind: it's because my sound here workes out of the box
[08:26] <socketbind> and why it would change the bios for that?
[08:26] <x4245> socketbind: is there a package for it?
[08:26] <socketbind> linux has many nice drivers so many cards work out of the box
[08:27] <socketbind> there should be
[08:27] <matahari> socketbind: then i used qemu and wanted to emulate a soundcard - and then sound stopped working. now i did a fresh install and sound still doesn't work...
[08:27] <socketbind> well thats pretty bad : \ i dunno
[08:27] <socketbind> x4245, personally i use twonkymedia because it worked with windows media player and with the htpc
[08:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install new firefox?
[08:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 2.0.0.9
[08:27] <socketbind> but it costs money
[08:28] <socketbind> but apart from that it works very good
[08:28] <socketbind> i can access all my movies, pictures on my local net
[08:28] <x4245> socketbind: ok, about lanovision, its not for linux?
[08:29] <socketbind> it seems so
[08:30] <x4245> socketbind: i found flumotion server on the buntu repos, is it good?
[08:30] <x4245> socketbind: coz it never worked for me before
[08:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i install new firefox?
[08:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 2.0.0.9
[08:31] <raylu> AT0M1CB0MB3R, what's the latest version in the repos?
[08:31] <x4245> AT0M1CB0MB3R: use the repos
[08:31] <socketbind> x4245, well i dont see what does it stream and through what
[08:32] <x4245> socketbind: its the only streaming server i could find on the repos
[08:32] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: just do this in the command line sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:32] <socketbind> x4245, how do you want to access your media? for instance i use windows media player 11, yahoo music jukebox as the clients for music
[08:32] <matahari> socketbind: do you know somebody who can help me?
[08:33] <socketbind> matahari: not really : \ but keep asking later maybe some experts arrive :)
[08:33] <matahari> :-)
[08:33] <matahari> thanks
[08:33] <socketbind> x4245, and for movies tvedia or the htpc
[08:33] <raylu> help with what?
[08:33] <socketbind> hope, it gets fixed
[08:33] <icecruncher> ?
[08:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its not the newest version in repos socketbind
[08:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> oops
[08:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its not the newest version in repos eagles0513875
[08:34] <raylu> AT0M1CB0MB3R, if it's not, try backports
[08:34] <socketbind> matahari is having some problems with the soundcard
[08:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no clue what that is
[08:34] <raylu> ubuntuforums.org, search :D
[08:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> im not bout to do that
[08:35] <socketbind> x4245, and for my pics or movies i use tvedia or media center in windows
[08:35] <socketbind> they all automatically detect the media
[08:35] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: whats in the repos
[08:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: mozilla
[08:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> duh
[08:36] <pabligeno> hi
[08:36] <icecruncher> lolz
[08:36] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: im saying version
[08:36] <pabligeno> any can helpme?
[08:36] <eagles0513875> !ask | pabligeno
[08:36] <ubotu> pabligeno: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:36] <pabligeno> i can install dynamips
[08:36] <pabligeno> and im download rpm packet
[08:36] <pabligeno> use alien to move a deb
[08:36] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: thats what u have to do
[08:36] <pabligeno> im installing use
[08:37] <pabligeno> dpkg -i packet.deb
[08:37] <pabligeno> and when i have run
[08:37] <pabligeno> i have a error
[08:37] <pabligeno> look
[08:37] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ur wanting firefox right
[08:37] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: dont post it here
[08:37] <eagles0513875> !pastbin | pabligeno
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <pabligeno> ok
[08:37] <eagles0513875> !pastebin | pabligeno
[08:37] <ubotu> pabligeno: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:37] <pabligeno> here have my pastebin :P
[08:37] <pabligeno> http://pastebin.com/m5de04f01
[08:37] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: yeah
[08:37] <pabligeno> look please
[08:38] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: the latest in the repo is 2.0.0.8
[08:38] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: yeah but the latest is 2.0.0.9
[08:38] <x4245> socketbind: well, the client should be windows media player if possible, but an external client will work also
[08:38] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: u have to download it from the site
[08:38] <eagles0513875> x4245: dont mention winblows in here
[08:39] <eagles0513875> unless u really need to
[08:39] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: i did that but i dont know how to install it like that
[08:39] <pabligeno> ubotu: can you see my error?
[08:39] <pabligeno> eagles0513875:
[08:39] <socketbind> x4245, the you need a upnp media server with DLNA support
[08:39] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: ubotu is a bot
[08:39] <icecruncher> pabligeno: install libpcap
[08:39] <socketbind> to be honest, the ones avaiable on linux are NOCTURNAL
[08:39] <pabligeno> mmmmmmmm
[08:39] <pabligeno> wait
[08:39] <x4245> socketbind: i dont need a upnp server, my clients will only be pc's , not devices.
[08:39] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: i have never used that before
[08:40] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: is it an rpm or what
[08:40] <pabligeno> how?
[08:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: no its tar.gz
[08:40] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: i have never used what ur talking about so i have no idea
[08:40] <socketbind> x4245, upnp is not just for devices, wmp uses upnp too
[08:40] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: extract it first
[08:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> done
[08:40] <pabligeno> mmmmmm
[08:40] <eagles0513875> ok now whats the format of the pkg
[08:40] <pabligeno> the question is
[08:40] <pabligeno> how to install libpcap.so.0.9.4 in my system?
[08:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what one is the install one?
[08:41] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: is it a deb or rpm
[08:41] <icecruncher> pabligeno: open adpet manager and search it
[08:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ill check
[08:41] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: check repos
[08:41] <pabligeno> i dont find there
[08:41] <x4245> socketbind: all right
[08:41] <icecruncher> pabligeno: just the "libpcap"
[08:41] <pabligeno> :(
[08:41] <pabligeno> yes
[08:41] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: let me download it
[08:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[08:41] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> :]
[08:41] <x4245> socketbind: so is there any , how bout darwin server from apple
[08:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> http://mozilla.org
[08:42] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: might as well upgrade it while im helping u
[08:42] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:42] <pabligeno> the packet +++
[08:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: true
[08:42] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: its goign to take a m in
[08:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[08:43] <icecruncher> pabligeno: try just searching pcap it's there somewhere
[08:43] <eagles0513875> i hate my cable internet provider
[08:43] <pabligeno> ok
[08:43] <pabligeno> wait
[08:43] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: i need the newest because i cant do my homeowork on older version :[
[08:43] <pabligeno> dont find :(
[08:44] <pabligeno> i need install this library
[08:44] <pabligeno> im find
[08:44] <pabligeno> but only rpm
[08:44] <pabligeno> and alien tell me a error
[08:44] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> pabligeno: what language do you speak?
[08:44] <pabligeno> español
[08:44] <pabligeno> sorry by my english
[08:44] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> !es | pabligeno
[08:44] <ubotu> pabligeno: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[08:44] <icecruncher> pabligeno: just a sec
[08:44] <pabligeno> mmmmmmm
[08:45] <pabligeno> no many people there
[08:45] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what kinda hw
[08:45] <pabligeno> this is discrimination :P
[08:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> math science bunch of junk
[08:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i need it to be done by tomorrow
[08:45] <eagles0513875> pabligeno: no its not
[08:45] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> and im sleepy
[08:45] <Q-collective> pabligeno: or you could just talk in english :p
[08:45] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: :( iill try do my best to get u up and running with it asap
[08:45] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: im guessing ur a star trek fan
[08:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: thanks
[08:46] <Q-collective> I was, but yeah, sticked with the nick
[08:46] <pabligeno> mmmmm
[08:46] <pabligeno> i try
[08:46] <pabligeno> :$
[08:46] <icecruncher> pabligeno: it's there called "libpcap"
[08:46] <pabligeno> sorry my english is very pioor
[08:46] <pabligeno> porr
[08:46] <nathan> any recommendations on kubuntu download accelerator ?
[08:46] <pabligeno> poor
[08:46] <pabligeno> mmmm
[08:46] <pabligeno> im searching by apt
[08:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: btw how do i uninstall wine?
[08:47] <pabligeno> im use the command apt-cache search asdasd
[08:47] <x4245> does anyone know how can i remove the samba server name after it is installed
[08:47] <icecruncher> pabligeno: and try the backports for the newest version
[08:47] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: do u know how to compile from source
[08:47] <pabligeno> what is backports?
[08:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: firefox?
[08:47] <Q-collective> nathan: download accelerator? do those even exist in linuxland?
[08:47] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: for me easiest way is to go into adept manager and search for it
[08:47] <x4245> once samba is installed , when i access the server in windows, it shows on the title bar (samba server v.xxx)
[08:47] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: anyting from source cuz im thinking thats what u gotta do with firefox
[08:47] <x4245> how can i remove it
[08:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: no i dont :[
[08:48] <pabligeno> icecruncher: look this please
[08:48] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: actually u dont need to compile it from source
[08:48] <nathan> yeah, axel, wxdownload etc etc, but i want to get opinions on which one i should get -_-
[08:48] <pabligeno> hey
[08:48] <Q-collective> I just use wget and kget
[08:48] <nathan> ok ima try axel DA
[08:48] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: so what do i do
[08:48] <pabligeno> look this please
[08:48] <pabligeno> http://pastebin.com/m5003ad5d
[08:49] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: :( this is actually not goign to be easy
[08:49] <pabligeno> i need help
[08:49] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: im not a total newbie
[08:49] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: i have never installed the latest version of ff from download before
[08:50] <pabligeno> hey
[08:50] <pabligeno> http://pastebin.com/m5003ad5d}
[08:50] <pabligeno> http://pastebin.com/m5003ad5d
[08:50] <Q-collective> why not just install firefox with apt-get?
[08:50] <matahari> sound worked out of the box in gutsy. then i used qemu and wanted to emulate a soundcard - and then sound stopped working. now i did a fresh install and sound still doesn't work... can somebody help me please?
[08:50] <zump> Hi. The network settings module in kubuntu really SUCKS ASS. is there any viable replacement?
[08:50] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: AT0M1CB0MB3R needs the latest version
[08:51] <Q-collective> matahari: did you unmute the channels in alsamixer?
[08:51] <pabligeno> mmmmmmmmm
[08:51] <pabligeno> i have a rrer whit alien
[08:51] <pabligeno> http://pastebin.com/m5003ad5d
[08:51] <Q-collective> eagles0513875: which one? version 2.x or 3.x?
[08:51] <pabligeno> plese
[08:51] <icecruncher> pabligeno: they are only warnings. should still work
[08:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Q-collective: 2.0.0.9
[08:52] <matahari> Q-collective: yes
[08:52] <eagles0513875> 2.0.0.9 from the firefox website
[08:52] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: well, it should come up fast enough in apt-get, why do the hassle of compiling 2.0.0.9 by hand?
[08:52] <pabligeno> ok
[08:53] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: tried to compile it its not source
[08:54] <Q-collective> matahari: well, I too don't have a working sound on my laptop, so I guess I'm not a big help for you ;)
[08:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> omg i just want to do my homework
[08:54] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: why do you need .9? why not just use .8?
[08:54] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: what about 9 cant u do in 8
[08:54] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ill try reinstall it
[08:55] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eagles0513875: how do i delete all the config files for firefox?
[08:55] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: in the command line do sudo rm -rf .firefox
[08:55] <Q-collective> rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[08:55] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: why do iget these msgs
[08:55] <eagles0513875> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[08:55] <eagles0513875> Reading package lists... Done
[08:55] <eagles0513875> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[08:56] <Q-collective> hmm
[08:56] <Q-collective> mirror down?
[08:57] <Q-collective> eagles0513875: you don't need sudo to rm your own files btw
[08:57] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: dont u need that if they r locked
[08:58] <Q-collective> locked? you should have full permissions over them
[09:02] <eagles0513875> Q-collective: lets say an app has them locked
[09:02] <eagles0513875> and u wanna remove the config for the app that has them locked dont u need to sudo
[09:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i cant even do my homeowrk on linux
[09:03] <Q-collective> I don't know any applications that change permissions on config files
[09:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> gosh i hate this
[09:03] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so, what do you need to do?
[09:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no clue
[09:03] <Q-collective> and why not use an alternative browser, like konqueror?
[09:03] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it says i need internet explorer or netscape
[09:04] <Q-collective> bad site
[09:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but firefox used to work before
[09:04] <Q-collective> well, back to square one: what exactly is the problem?
[09:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no clue
[09:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i cant login
[09:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it says i dont meeet system requirements
[09:05] <Q-collective> on the specific website?
[09:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yeah
[09:05] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its my homework website
[09:05] <Q-collective> I see
[09:06] <Q-collective> what firefox version do you have currently installed?
[09:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> 2.0.0.8
[09:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> from repos
[09:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i dont get it
[09:07] <Q-collective> what is the url to the website?
[09:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it used to work before
[09:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but now it doesnt
[09:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Q-collective: i cant tell you because you cant login and it only says i need to download netscape and that when i login and im not giving you my passwor
[09:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> d
[09:08] <Q-collective> I want to see if I get the same error
[09:08] <Q-collective> if so, tsomething has changed serverside
[09:08] <Q-collective> and you need to complain to the server admin
[09:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Q-collective: i cant tell you the password or username
[09:09] <Q-collective> do you get the error *after* trying to login then?
[09:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yeah
[09:09] <Q-collective> ah
[09:09] <tuxwulf> Hello... Does anybody know a good alternative to tvtme ...?
[09:09] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: well, there still is ie4linux...
[09:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but in konqueror it shows tha i dont have system requirments right away
[09:09] <Q-collective> hmm
[09:09] <Q-collective> url? :)
[09:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> no
[09:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lol
[09:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sorry
[09:10] <Q-collective> gah
[09:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but anyways
[09:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> it works on firefox on my dads computer (win xp)
[09:10] <Q-collective> same version?
[09:10] <eagles0513875> AT0M1CB0MB3R: anything will work on a windows xp comp
[09:10] <eagles0513875> or at least just about
[09:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> then why is there linux
[09:11] <Q-collective> he's talking about firefox
[09:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> yes same version
[09:11] <Q-collective> strange
[09:12] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: well, I guess you should ask in #firefox then
[09:13] <wanida> !adeptfix
[09:13] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:14] <Q-collective> tuxwulf: what exactly is tvtme?
[09:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> im going to quit
[09:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> im so tired
[09:15] <tuxwulf> Q: I have a tv card in my pc, tvtime is a program that can show me tv with it
[09:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> but i bet when i get in bed
[09:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i wont even be tire
[09:15] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> d
[09:16] <tuxwulf> but tvtime does nto seem to work very well
[09:16] <mohi> icewaterman: hi... can you remember me? 3 days ago... about GPRS and konqueror?
[09:16] <Q-collective> AT0M1CB0MB3R: so, I guess that leaves ie4linux for you then
[09:16] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> what ie4linux
[09:16] <Q-collective> google it
[09:17] <Q-collective> or you could even try netscape (even though it is exactly the same engine as firefox's, lol)
[09:17] <Q-collective> tuxwulf: well, I'm not very familiar on tvcard territory, sorry
[09:17] <xipietotec> where does kde keep the rc for arts in kubuntu?
[09:22] <tuxwulf> Q: is ok, thanks
[09:24] <Minnozz> Hi, my internet is acting weird for a few weeks now. I want to check all settings / diagnostic tools that are involved with internet / network, can someone help me?
[09:25] <wilson_> Minnozz: that's a few broad question
[09:25] <wilson_> few=very
[09:26] <Minnozz> Yes I know, but it's driving me crazy so I want to fix it for once and for all
[09:29] <RurouniJones> Minnozz: First off you need to specify "Weird"
[09:30] <RurouniJones> Connection dropping randomly? Long load times? network card glowing whenever the moon is blue?
[09:30] <jxxt> thats weird
[09:31] <Minnozz> RurouniJones: Well, when my PC is on for a few hours (this varies a lot), everything turns very slow (pinging a server takes about 1 second, every try, opening a webpage takes 30 seconds, uploading downloading is very slow), and when I reboot, it is fast again
[09:32] <Minnozz> *uploading and downloading
[09:32] <RurouniJones> Does the entire computer slow down?
[09:33] <RurouniJones> i.e. windows move slowly, mouse pointer moves slowly etc.
[09:33] <Minnozz> No, that just stays quick
[09:33] <jxxt> Minnoz, I have a acer with a shared memory graphics card that is doing the same   the tech told me to keep the thing for parts :(
[09:34] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i make my icons bigger
[09:36] <Minnozz> jxxt: The thing is that my PC is only a year old, and I never had the problem before a clean install
[09:36] <Minnozz> So I'm pretty sure that there is a problem with the settings
[09:37] <jxxt> Minnoz, Mine is two and a laptop.. I was told that acer are not good on reliable
[09:37] <wilson_> what kind of internet connection do you have ?
[09:37] <wilson_> does power cycling the modem/router fix the problem ? might not even be the pc that's the problem
[09:38] <Minnozz> wilson_: The internet connection is 4096 (down) / 256 (up)
[09:38] <wilson_> oh, i see when u reboot its fixed, nevermind
[09:38] <wilson_> so are you doing anything in particular when it stuff up ?
[09:39] <wilson_> bittorrent ?
[09:40] <wilson_> is this wirelessly ?
[09:40] <Minnozz> wilson_: KTorrent definatly seems to speed the 'slowdown' up, but after I shut it down it stays slow
[09:40] <Minnozz> No it is wired
[09:41] <wilson_> hrm, what nic is on that thing ?
[09:41] <wilson_> realtek ? intel ?
[09:41] <voicu> is there a way to avoid activating windows when clicking on them? there is the setting for not raising them but not for not activating
[09:41] <wilson_> marvell ?
[09:43] <Minnozz> wilson_: The ASUS site says it's Marvell
[09:44] <wilson_> once it's slowed down you can do stuff like checking netstat or iptraf to see if something is using the connection
[09:44] <wilson_> you can see if taking the interface down with ifconfig and then bringing it back up again fixes it
[09:44] <wilson_> i dunno, its weird
[09:44] <Minnozz> I tried that, that didn't work
[09:44] <wilson_> might be a bug in the ethernet driver
[09:45] <Minnozz> Hmm
[09:45] <contrast83> voicu: Not that I'm aware of. Enlightenment has that feature though.
[09:45] <wilson_> is anything happening it /var/log/syslog when it happens ?
[09:45] <voicu> yeah, ok
[09:46] <contrast83> voicu: You just want to focus the window without raising it?
[09:47] <voicu> no, i want to be able to click stuff without changing the focused window
[09:48] <contrast83> Hmm... I don't know if that's even possible. Is there another WM that does that?
[09:48] <voicu> i don't know, i only tried gnome and xfce for a little
[09:49] <voicu> do widgets need to have their parent window active while doing actions?
[09:49] <voicu> if not, it would be an interesting option to have
[09:49] <contrast83> I would imagine so.
[09:50] <contrast83> You might check out Flux/Openbox, PekWM, Afterstep... There's at least a dozen WM's in the repos. Not sure if any have that feature though.
[09:51] <rand_acs> voicu: you're talking about Qt?
[09:52] <voicu> yeah, i think. i'm don't know how kde works internally, but it doesn't seem such a big problem not to activate windows and still be able to click controls in them
[09:52] <voicu> or maybe it is...
[09:52] <rand_acs> a parent have to be "active" as in initialized, but I don't think it needs to be visible, have not tested this
[09:53] <voicu> contrast83: ok, i'll try
[09:53] <voicu> rand_acs: so it has to have focus?
[09:53] <rand_acs> one reason for the parent is that the parent does cleanup after it's children
[09:54] <contrast83> voicu: I wouldn't say this is conclusive, but I noticed when a window's not focused, the focus rectangle around its last clicked button goes away.
[09:54] <rand_acs> voicu: that's the thing, I don't think it has to have focus or be visible for that matter, but I can't think of a example now
[09:55] <Minnozz> wilson_: I checked that, but iirc there's nothing interesting there
[09:55] <voicu> ok then, maybe i'll ask on #kde or something
[09:55] <rand_acs> what do you want to do?
[09:56] <contrast83> rand_acs: he wants to be able to click something in a window without focusing it.
[09:56] <voicu> yeah, so i can still work in another window
[09:57] <voicu> or it could be something like click->activate->pass click->change focus back
[09:57] <rand_acs> i see
[09:57] <contrast83> voicu: I know this isn't the same thing, but have you tried sloppy focus?
[09:57] <rand_acs> but the parent thing doesn't help you there
[09:57] <voicu> you mean focus under mouse?
[09:57] <contrast83> Right
[09:57] <rand_acs> you'll have to look into focus and mouse events
[09:58] <voicu> yeah, but usually i don't see the window i want to remain focused, that's why i need this option
[09:58] <rand_acs> btw, will this all be in one app?
[09:59] <voicu> rand_acs: i'm not trying to make an app that doesn't need focus. i want to be able to have that option in the kde enviroment
[10:00] <rand_acs> voicu: oh I see what you're getting at
[10:00] <nathan> ahhh good old rain, pouring down and our roof (light socket) has water coming through it... sounds healthy
[10:00] <tuxwulf> On Kubuntu, how do "unpack" an RPM?
[10:01] <contrast83> tuxwulf: you just want to see its contents, or install it?
[10:01] <voicu> tuxwulf: use alien
[10:02] <tuxwulf> Contrast : Actually I just want to get 1 pic out of it to install as my background
[10:02] <contrast83> can't Ark open RPM's?
[10:02] <tuxwulf> Ark?
[10:02] <voicu> yeah, you can use ark
[10:02] <level1__> !broadcom
[10:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:03] <lg188> assultcube can not run
[10:03] <maverick> Does anyone here has problem with kmix master channel in kmix?!!
[10:03] <voicu> tuxwulf: try right clicking it and extract or open it with ark
[10:03] <contrast83> Hmm, maybe not. Ark's not listed as an app for RPM's in Konqueror's file associations.
[10:03] <maverick> gutsy
[10:04] <contrast83> maverick: Ellaborate?
[10:04] <tuxwulf> voicu/contrast > ark : "not a suported archive format"
[10:04] <voicu> contrast83: does ark open .debs?
[10:05] <contrast83> It can, yeah.
[10:05] <voicu> he could use alien to make it a deb and then extract it
[10:05] <maverick> contrast83: i'm uding GUTSY i can't adjust the volume from the master slide bar...i can only adjust it from the PCM..which in turn doesn't allow me to use my laptop volume hotkeys
[10:05] <contrast83> Convert it to a deb and then open with ark
[10:05] <tuxwulf> A while ago I did see sth about rpms on debian
[10:05] <eagles0513875> im having issues with frostwire
[10:05] <tuxwulf> alien
[10:05] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me it starts to load then quits
[10:05] <voicu> tuxwulf: alien -d blabla.rpm
[10:05] <tuxwulf> vocu > That's the next step..
[10:05] <contrast83> maverick: Did you try changing the master channel?
[10:05] <maverick> how?!!
[10:06] <lg188> repsa_jih
[10:06] <level1__> my friend has a broadcom BCM4311... I'm reluctant to to enable the firmware if it might change/break his wireless card, so can someone help me understand exactly how this card works?
[10:06] <lg188> repsa_jih i played to long westnoth its a good game
[10:06] <maverick> contrast83
[10:06] <eagles0513875> level1__: i have a bcm4306 i enabled it and it works
[10:06] <contrast83> !patience | maverick
[10:06] <ubotu> maverick: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:06] <maverick> contrast83: how ?!
[10:07] <contrast83> Right-click KMix in the system tray -> Select Master Channel
[10:07] <level1__> eagles0513875: did you just creck the button in restricted-drivers-manager or did you have to do anything else?
[10:07] <maverick> contrast83: sorry, i disconnected and i thought u didn't recieve a reply...
[10:07] <TimS> I adept on gutsy, there isnt a pre-release updates option, what has it been renamed to?
[10:08] <eagles0513875> level1__: when i first logged into gutsy a box popped up and asked me what restricted drivers i wanted to enable and i enabled them restarte my machine and they worked
[10:08] <voicu> tims: adept_manager
[10:08] <eagles0513875> that also besides wifi included open gl for my ati card
[10:08] <maverick> contrast83:  No Luck!
[10:09] <TimS> voicu: In the repositiories option box there isnt a tick box for pre-release updates, only unsupported and a few others like suggested, what has the pre-release option been renamed to
[10:09] <level1__> eagles0513875: okay, that sounds cool, if ubuntu intends to flash the firmware, I'm reluctant, but it sounds pretty simple.
[10:09] <contrast83> maverick: what'd you change it to? try setting it to PCM
[10:09] <maverick> contrast83: i select the channel to be PCM and this makes the mute button work...but not the volume ones
[10:09] <TimS> I eant to make sure I dont accidentaly autoupgrade to the next release
[10:09] <eagles0513875> level1__: i didnt have to flash anything
[10:09] <contrast83> maverick: weird. not sure, sorry. :-\
[10:09] <maverick> contrast83: thanks
[10:09] <landley> What's wrong with knetworkmanager in 7.10?
[10:10] <landley> It says I have no active network interface.
[10:10] <landley> I opened a root konsole, did iwlist and iwconfig and dhclient to bring the interface up by hand.
[10:10] <landley> That works fine, but knetworkmanager still says it doesn't exit.
[10:10] <landley> And Konqueror agrees with it!
[10:10] <|Cugel|> landley: I have the exact same problem.
[10:10] <contrast83> landley: you have to edit your /etc/network/interfaces now... or you can just uninstall networkmanager and use kwifimanager instead (which is what i'm doing).
[10:11] <|Cugel|> Perfect network, yet knetworkmanager insists there's nothing.
[10:11] <landley> It worked fine in 7.04...
[10:11] <contrast83> yeah, same here.
[10:11] <|Cugel|> And I don't have wifi, but no way it lets me set up vpn.
[10:11] <maverick> landley: try sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[10:11] <landley> What the heck does dbus have to do with the network interfaces in the system?
[10:11] <landley> Sigh, why did they insert a single point of failure?
[10:11] <landley> This was working...
[10:11] <contrast83> maverick: that's for when the connection goes out, i think. not when it's permanently not showing up at all.
[10:12] <landley> Why did I upgrade a working system?
[10:12] <voicu> tims: you want to upgrade to gutsy?
[10:12] <landley> Lured into a false sense of security...
[10:12] <maverick> contrast83: well i did have your problem when i first installed and this worked
[10:12] <contrast83> landley: it's not a hard fix at all.
[10:12] <TimS> No, I am on gutsy on one PC and dont want to update to the next release but theres no option like pre-release
[10:12] <contrast83> landley: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <lg188> how to instal libSDL 1.2, ?
[10:13] <contrast83> TimS: I don't think Adept will automatically go to a new release. Don't you have to click the Version Upgrade button when it shows up?
[10:13] <contrast83> lg188: Are you compiling something?
[10:13] <eagles0513875> is anyone having issues with frost wire
[10:13] <lg188> contrast83 no a game needs it and i dont have it
[10:14] <contrast83> lg188: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2
[10:14] <contrast83> lg188: what game?
[10:14] <lg188> contrast83 assult cube
[10:15] <lg188> contrast83 : the command says : there ar no canidats to instal it
[10:15] <alberto> ciaaaaaoooo
[10:15] <tuxwulf> voicu > That worked! Thanks!
[10:16] <contrast83> lg188: erm... pastebin your sources.list?
[10:17] <lg188> source ?
[10:17] <dragonrider8> bonjour , connaissez vous un moyen d'installer kubuntu sans CD-ROM , sans boot sur clef USB ?
[10:17] <lg188> !fr |dragonrider8
[10:17] <ubotu> dragonrider8: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:18] <dragonrider8> j'ai mon lecteur qui est mort sur mon portable
[10:18] <contrast83> lg188: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:18] <dragonrider8> oups sorry
[10:18] <lg188> contrast83 kk
[10:19] <dragonrider8> well , is there a possibility to install kubuntu with a computer without CD-rom ?
[10:19] <contrast83> !install
[10:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:19] <nathan1111> gawd i hate aus internet.. capped 6KB/s for a whole week, this sucks
[10:19] <lg188> contrast83 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43103/
[10:20] <wilson_> hehe im with tpg too
[10:20] <contrast83> lg188: you're using dapper?
[10:20] <lg188> contrast83 yes
[10:20] <nathan1111> yah i just got capped right now damn tpg
[10:20] <contrast83> just making sure. :-)
[10:20] <lg188> contrast83 np
[10:21] <eagles0513875> r there any java based dhcp servers or dns servers
[10:21] <eagles0513875> !automate
[10:21] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[10:21] <wilson_> eagles0513875 you are nuts lol
[10:21] <eagles0513875> wilson_: im jw cuz i found a java os for embedded divices
[10:21] <vzduch> Java-based servers? o0
[10:21] <eagles0513875> vzduch: ya lol
[10:22] <wilson_> java daemonz
[10:22] <eagles0513875> im trying to take that embedded java os and convert it into a server os and maybe a fully fledged desktop environment
[10:22] <eagles0513875> wilson_: ?
[10:24] <eagles0513875> i know u guys think im nuts but hey u never know i might become the next bill gates wiht it lol
[10:24] <contrast83> lg188: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[10:25] <lg188> contrast83 kk bussy wioth it
[10:25] <lg188> with*
[10:25] <lg188> contrast83 any idea tot start that game ?
[10:26] <contrast83> lg188: Gutsy has *logs* of games in the repos. ;-)
[10:26] <lg188> how-to
[10:26] <contrast83> lg188: it's installed now?
[10:26] <lg188> contrast83 yes
[10:26] <contrast83> lg188: If it's not showing up in K Menu, Alt+F2 -> assaultcube
[10:27] <lg188> cant exucurt it
[10:28] <kraut> moin
[10:28] <eagles0513875> j/w has anyone else noticed that when u cut something from one location then paste it in another it doesnt disappear from the original location
[10:28] <eagles0513875> in gutsy that is
[10:29] <eagles0513875> !offtopic | eagles0513875
[10:29] <contrast83> lg188: you sure it installed properly? that's the name of the executable here.
[10:29] <lg188> contrast83 i pretty **********
[10:29] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[10:29] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:29] <contrast83> eagles0513875: that's never happened to me.
[10:29] <eagles0513875> well its happening to me could it be im using the 64bit version of it
[10:30] <contrast83> lg188: where'd you get the .deb for it?
[10:30] <eagles0513875> i wish i had the money to build a quad core desktop. that would be a bitter sweet dev machine
[10:30] <emuse> anyone can help? does ubuntu remove xdvi, i can't install xdvi using apt-get
[10:30] <lg188> contrast83 i cant isntall it i have it like this : d/l from the site /unpack /....
[10:31] <contrast83> lg188: ok, that means you're trying to compile it. that's why i asked. ;-)
[10:31] <eagles0513875> !xdvi
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdvi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <eagles0513875> !find xdvi
[10:31] <ubotu> Found: xdvik-ja
[10:31] <eagles0513875> !info xdvi
[10:31] <ubotu> Package xdvi does not exist in gutsy
[10:31] <eagles0513875> emuse: it doesnt exist in gutsy
[10:31] <contrast83> lg188: if you're not sure what someone means when they ask you a question, you might want to ask them to clarify rather than answer it like you do. :-)
[10:33] <contrast83> lg188: there should have been a file named readme or install included with it, which should guide you through which dependencies you'll need to install for it. if not, i'm not really sure.
[10:33] <emuse> eagles0513875: so how can i install xdvi,i am using latex-suite and need xdvi to display the result.
[10:34] <eagles0513875> emuse: use kile
[10:34] <eagles0513875> wait
[10:35] <eagles0513875> emuse: there is a package called kdvi
[10:35] <eagles0513875> !kdvi
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdvi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <eagles0513875> !info kdvi
[10:35] <ubotu> kdvi: dvi viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[10:35] <eagles0513875> emuse: does that work
[10:36] <emuse> eagles0513875: ok,i will try it
[10:36] <contrast83> lg188: find it?
[10:39] <eagles0513875> emuse: there is no other alternative i checked in adept thats the only thing that came up
[10:39] <emuse> eagles0513875: i find kdvi can support inverse search, but does it work well with vim?
[10:40] <eagles0513875> emuse: dunno i havent used latex in a while
[10:40] <eagles0513875> speaking of ur making me want to get back into using it
[10:40] <eagles0513875> emuse: what do u mean by inverse search
[10:41] <eagles0513875> does anyone use frostwire in here
[10:41] <emuse> eagles0513875: Inverse search is a very useful feature when you are writing a TeX document yourself. If everything is properly set up, you can click into KDVI's window with the middle mouse button (on some systems, when you don't have a three-button mouse, you can simultaneously use the left and the right button). After that, your favorite editor will open, load the TeX source file and jump to the proper paragraph.
[10:42] <emuse> eagles0513875: i find these from the help file of kdvi
[10:42] <eagles0513875> emuse: so kdvi does that
[10:42] <eagles0513875> !frostwire
[10:42] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:44] <eagles0513875> what other p2p clients r there besides amule which i hate and frostwire which doesnt wanna start for me
[10:44] <eagles0513875> !p2p
[10:44] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[10:44] <eagles0513875> !edonkey
[10:44] <ubotu> eDonkey clients: aMule (GTK, stand-alone), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey) - See also !P2P
[10:45] <nathan1111> how do i tell if kubuntu is usin both processors? 64bit
[10:45] <emuse> eagles0513875: i use bttorrent only
[10:45] <eagles0513875> emuse: even for individual files
[10:45] <eagles0513875> whats the best bt program for kubuntu cuz right now im actually using a windows one on wine lol
[10:45] <eagles0513875> its so much faster than azureus
[10:47] <emuse> eagles0513875: i use ktorrent,transfer speed depond on the network
[10:47] <eagles0513875> i was able to download 3 audio albums in about 3 hrs yesterday using utorrent
[10:47] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <eagles0513875> can someone tell me why i am getting this error with frost wire http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43105/
[10:48] <eagles0513875> im using all the latest java stuff
[10:48] <eagles0513875> java 6 jdk and jre
[10:48] <nathan1111> well i just downloaded about 5 movies (2007) within a couple of hours using stage6.com :D
[10:48] <contrast83> eagles0513875: is that supposed to be fast? :-)
[10:48] <TimS> eagles0513875: I use KTorrent or deluge
[10:48] <eagles0513875> contrast83: better than what i was getting with azureus
[10:49] <eagles0513875> u guys dont have any download limits like my isp does ovr here in europe
[10:49] <eagles0513875> 10gb a monthly download
[10:49] <TimS> I dont have a download limit, im in the UK
[10:49] <eagles0513875> lucky u
[10:49] <nathan1111> 10GB monthly?? lol how much u pay??
[10:49] <eagles0513875> in what currency
[10:49] <TimS> Get a decent ISP
[10:49] <eagles0513875> lol this is the only cable isp here on the island of malta
[10:49] <eagles0513875> anyone have an idea bout my frostwire issue
[10:50] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43105/
[10:50] <nathan1111> we have 40GB limit but uploads not counted.. right now im capped at 6KB/s for a week, australia blows
[10:50] <nathan1111> pay $100 a month for 40GB 8mbit :(
[10:50] <contrast83> eagles0513875: not sure, tbh. did you already consult Google?
[10:50] <emuse> im in china, no download limit
[10:50] <contrast83> eagles0513875: btw, nicotine's quite fast. the version in gutsy appears to be broken, but it's a breeze to compile it since it's python.
[10:51] <nathan1111> we have ADSL2+(getting installed in my exchange right now :P) ADSL1 / Bigpond Cable + optus cable /  all in my suburb
[10:51] <eagles0513875> contrast83: have not checked google i dunno where to go with frost wire issue
[10:52] <eagles0513875> in us where im from 5mb down bout 1.5up no limits what so ever bout 50 dollars a month
[10:52] <eagles0513875> reminding me of the us im missing that beast of a computer we got for my dad
[10:52] <nathan1111> 5MB/s down ?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:53] <eagles0513875> its the ideal dev machine
[10:53] <nathan1111> or 500KB/s down
[10:53] <contrast83> mB or mb?
[10:53] <eagles0513875> 5 megs down
[10:54] <contrast83> bits, right?
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:54] <nathan1111> fark for $50usd no limit......... !!!!
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:54] <nathan1111> puts my 40GB data limit to shame :|
[10:54] <contrast83> <- 8mb down $40/mo.
[10:54] <nathan1111> wat currency
[10:54] <jxxt> eagles0513875, will this help?  ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273145
[10:55] <contrast83> usd
[10:55] <eagles0513875> contrast83: who u with
[10:55] <eagles0513875> im with comcast
[10:55] <eagles0513875> jxxt: that doesnt really help
[10:55] <contrast83> att
[10:55] <eagles0513875> jxxt: im getting a java error
[10:56] <eagles0513875> contrast83: 40 bucks for dsl
[10:56] <contrast83> 8mb down dsl, yeah. ;-)
[10:56] <jxxt> eagles0513875, sorry I did not see the error I will search again
[10:56] <eagles0513875> with comcast and speed boost i can get to 12mbps down
[10:56] <eagles0513875> jxxt: u want to take a look at my pastbin
[10:56] <contrast83> eagles0513875: how'd you install frostwire?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> contrast83: from the frostwire site
[10:57] <eagles0513875> downloaded the deb then installed using command line
[10:57] <contrast83> with the .deb package, right?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> yep
[10:57] <contrast83> k, just checking
[10:57] <nathan1111> i got 800k down 386k up, 40GB data limit for $100AUD ($90USD about) am i getting ripped or what haha
[10:57] <nathan1111> 8000k ****
[10:57] <eagles0513875> jxxt: here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43105/
[10:57] <eagles0513875> wtf u r getting ripped
[10:57] <eagles0513875> ripped badly
[10:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:58] <eagles0513875> i need to ship my desktop machine ovr here cuz i really need a dev machine for this os project of mine
[10:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:58] <eagles0513875> i got a random question for u guy
[10:59] <nathan1111> which guy>_>
[10:59] <eagles0513875> i have an old hp with a radeon 9800pro for some reason when i try to install kubuntu the video disappears and stops loading
[10:59] <eagles0513875> anyone lol
[10:59] <jxxt> eagles0513875, What about this then?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:00] <nathan1111> how long you let it sit for
[11:00] <eagles0513875> 30-45min
[11:00] <eagles0513875> i woudl rather use kubuntu then a pirated volume licensed version of winblows server 2k3
[11:00] <eagles0513875> enterprise
[11:00] <eagles0513875> jxxt: already looked there lol
[11:01] <contrast83> eagles0513875: did you try with the alternate cd?
[11:01] <nathan1111> i had to leave mine sit for a minute before the monitor came good again
[11:01] <nathan1111> cause it said 'no signal' >_<
[11:01] <eagles0513875> contrast83: no i didnt
[11:01] <eagles0513875> nathan1111: mine doesnt say that
[11:01] <contrast83> eagles0513875: give it a shot. that works for a lot of people when the live cd doesn't.
[11:01] <eagles0513875> contrast83: lol when i go back to the us for 2 weeks lol
[11:01] <contrast83> plus it's much faster.
[11:02] <eagles0513875> contrast83: do u still end up with a desktop and all that
[11:02] <jxxt> eagles0513875, Ok Mate just trying the obvious.. I have no real clues on java
[11:02] <contrast83> yeah, it installs the exact same stuff
[11:02] <eagles0513875> jxxt: kinda funny im learning java and have the latest java thats out there
[11:02] <eagles0513875> java 6 jdk and jre
[11:03] <contrast83> from bootup to the end of the human-interaction part, i'm done with the installation on the text-only cd in less than 5 minutes, and it's completely done in ~15 minutes after that.
[11:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:03] <eagles0513875> since im wanting to setup a server would it be better to install teh server version
[11:03] <eagles0513875> that seems to work fine with the radeon 9800 its only when i switch to the desktop version
[11:03] <eagles0513875> i dunno ill try the alt
[11:04] <contrast83> probably so. i would imagine the server version just includes LAMP and no desktop environment, so it should be easy to make either one do both jobs.
[11:05] <eagles0513875> im goign ot try the alt
[11:05] <eagles0513875> what would be good specs for a dev machine
[11:05] <eagles0513875> cuz i have a rather nice desktop that i could use that is also 64bit
[11:05] <eagles0513875> can take up to 8gb of ram
[11:05] <contrast83> i have no idea, tbh
[11:05] <contrast83> wow. i envy you.
[11:05] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:05] <rodrigo> hiii, someone can help me with assembly programming?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> its an athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz processor on an asus a8n sli premium mobo which can handel 4 sata drives and has the ability to raid those 4 to another 4 sata drives lol
[11:06] <eagles0513875> sli capable
[11:06] <eagles0513875> and
[11:06] <eagles0513875> this is the best part
[11:06] <contrast83> single core?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> if i can find an athlon fx or x2 socket 939 they can work with my borde as well
[11:07] <eagles0513875> ya
[11:07] <eagles0513875> its the exact same processor i have in this laptop
[11:07] <contrast83> i bet you get great battery life. :-P
[11:08] <contrast83> my laptop's got a 2ghz p4 and i get like, just over an hour on it.
[11:08] <eagles0513875> contrast83: with linux about almost 2 hrs
[11:08] <eagles0513875> winblows hr and a half
[11:08] <eagles0513875> that is if i turn my screen brightness down
[11:08] <eagles0513875> how do i fix this GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[11:08] <rodrigo> i have problem with my keyboard layout.
[11:08] <abs0lutek0ld> some people get all the cool gear..  all i have is a server that is the size of an endtable
[11:08] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: what kinda server
[11:09] <nathan1111> ya'll give me some ideas what i can do that doesn't involve the use of internet , in kubuntu (stupid net cap) else im head off sleep
[11:09] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:09] <eagles0513875> to get anythign installed u need the net all u can really do is work with what u already got installed
[11:09] <abs0lutek0ld> sun ultra 3000..  6gigs ram 6 400 mhz 64bit procs 10 9.1 gig hdds
[11:09] <contrast83> yeah. i was gonna suggest some games, but i guess that's out.
[11:10] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: thats kool
[11:10] <abs0lutek0ld> and heavy..
[11:10] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: that would make a sweet dev machine lol
[11:10] <eagles0513875> i have abotu 4 comps of my own lol
[11:10] <abs0lutek0ld> one day was planning to use it for a storage node in a cluster
[11:11] <eagles0513875> im really wanting to setup a cluster with the machiens i have
[11:11] <contrast83> i've got 3, plus one that's out of commission (dead power supply)
[11:11] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: did u use kubuntu to create the cluster
[11:11] <contrast83> how hard is it to set up a cluster?
[11:11] <eagles0513875> depends if u want the nodes to have diskless boot or not
[11:11] <eagles0513875> if diskless u need to configure dns dhcp tftp
[11:11] <contrast83> ahh, ok. way beyond my realm. :-P
[11:11] <abs0lutek0ld> also have about 6 sparc e450 with 2 gigs ram and quad 400 mhz procs
[11:12] <eagles0513875> and then sym link folders and what not i have a how to cuz at the college i was at back in the state we were working creating one
[11:12] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: u should join some boinc projects
[11:12] <eagles0513875> i need to pack up one of my machines and bring it ovr here as my dev machine
[11:12] <nathan1111> is it possible to make xchat minimize to tray ?
[11:12] <nathan1111> can't find it in options
[11:12] <eagles0513875> i dunno im using konversation
[11:12] <abs0lutek0ld> yeah i know but i dont really have the time
[11:12] <contrast83> just to make sure i understand, a cluster basically lets you use the power of multiple computers as if they were one, right?
[11:13] <abs0lutek0ld> give the man a prize
[11:13] <nathan1111> .
[11:13] <eagles0513875> yep
[11:13] <contrast83> heh
[11:13] <abs0lutek0ld> but clustering only works as well as the paraellization of the code written
[11:13] <eagles0513875> *puts on announcer voice* contrast u have one a brand new computer quad core amd machine and nice 22inch lcd monitor
[11:13] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: do u know much about java
[11:14]  * contrast83 wets his pants
[11:14] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:14] <abs0lutek0ld> i dont like it...  nothing really
[11:14] <eagles0513875> damn cuz i was wondering what it means when u say multithreaded programming
[11:15] <contrast83> abs0lutek0ld: what you said about parallelization of the code, that would go for multicore procs as well, right?
[11:15] <lg188> contrast83 still onlien
[11:15] <eagles0513875> contrast83: yep
[11:15] <abs0lutek0ld> yes
[11:15] <contrast83> lg188: make any progress?
[11:15] <lg188> contrast83 is a little adictet to westnoth
[11:15] <contrast83> ?
[11:15] <lg188> contrast83 nope
[11:15] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: u know much programming regardless of the language
[11:16] <lg188> i am adicitet to westnoth sryy^.^
[11:16] <abs0lutek0ld> that is what most developers seem to be going for as multi core units slowly take over the mainstream..  clustering is just the poor mans way of doing it
[11:16] <eagles0513875> rofl
[11:16] <contrast83> oh, heh.
[11:16] <lg188> what was the Q ?
[11:16] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: i dont think so clusters will still be around but just increasing the power
[11:17] <contrast83> or if you're a rich man, you could cluster several comps with multicore procs, right?
[11:17] <eagles0513875> contrast83: or if ur a rich man just buy a main frame
[11:17] <abs0lutek0ld> its just cheaper to go get four old machines and some gigabit nics than a brand new dual quad core system
[11:17] <eagles0513875> true
[11:17] <lg188> contrast83 i cnt install it and it is verry not funny
[11:18] <eagles0513875> i have an old amd 900mhz machien a p4 1.7 a p4 2.6 and a 2ghz amd
[11:18] <contrast83> lg188: i dunno, man. any reason in particular you're still on dapper?
[11:18] <eagles0513875> the 2.6 i over clock get it to 3.1 and the 2ghz amd ive gotten up to 2.9
[11:18] <eagles0513875> contrast83: i think he likes the old school look
[11:18] <lg188> contrast83 i got it from a friend i dont care
[11:18] <abs0lutek0ld> whats that smell.  ahh burning electronics..  a geek never forgets
[11:19] <contrast83> if he wanted to upgrade to gutsy, he'd have to do dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy, right?
[11:19] <eagles0513875> contrast83: ya
[11:19] <contrast83> yuck.
[11:20] <abs0lutek0ld> or go burn fiesty and to a reinstall
[11:20] <eagles0513875> could do that too
[11:20] <contrast83> right
[11:20] <eagles0513875> or just burn gutsy
[11:20] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:20]  * contrast83 assumed that's what he meant. ;-)
[11:20] <eagles0513875> any of u guys have any programming experience
[11:20] <eagles0513875> if u go from feisty its rather quite easy
[11:20] <abs0lutek0ld> well if you are going to do it the easy way
[11:20] <eagles0513875> took me lest time to get this thing upgraded the 2nd time
[11:21] <contrast83> i tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy on two seperate occasions and both of them failed.
[11:21] <abs0lutek0ld> anyone work with ftir multitouch displays
[11:21] <abs0lutek0ld> ?????
[11:21] <eagles0513875> how did u go about doing it
[11:21] <contrast83> eagles0513875: followed the directions on the site to a t
[11:21] <eagles0513875> u downloaded the updates
[11:21] <eagles0513875> enabled the repos
[11:21] <contrast83> yep
[11:22] <eagles0513875> then what i did was used source o matic to change the source.list to gutsy sources and used the cl to dist upgrade
[11:22] <contrast83> hmm... maybe i'll try that next time. seems that works better for a lot of people.
[11:22] <eagles0513875> worked fine for me
[11:23] <contrast83> my friend's girlfriend's box is still on feisty. i'll give it a shot when i fix hers up.
[11:23] <abs0lutek0ld> heh heh heh
[11:23] <eagles0513875> :) if u need help and im on holla at me
[11:23] <contrast83> will do, thanks
[11:23] <eagles0513875> no prob
[11:23] <eagles0513875> this was my first successful upgrade lol
[11:23] <contrast83> abs0lutek0ld: snickering at the sound of "fixing up her box"?
[11:23] <Surge_> Why is the DVD so big if it's only the alternate and desktop installs? It should be about 1.4GB not 3.6GB. What else is on the DVD?
[11:24] <eagles0513875> wow
[11:24] <eagles0513875> fix up her box lucky u
[11:24] <contrast83> lol
[11:24] <eagles0513875> time to take a stab at getting world of warcraft installed
[11:24] <abs0lutek0ld> or screw up her box..  these things are usually only a few keystrokes different
[11:24] <contrast83> hehe
[11:25] <eagles0513875> only problem i having is switching from one cd to the next it doesnt seem to find the next cd and auto launch it
[11:25] <eagles0513875> and continue the installation
[11:25] <abs0lutek0ld> "whoops" is not what you want to hear the person working on your computer to say
[11:25] <contrast83> indeed
[11:25] <eagles0513875> any ideas guys
[11:26] <eagles0513875> or r we still on the topic of boxes and fixing and screewing
[11:26] <abs0lutek0ld> eagles running cedega
[11:26] <contrast83> eagles0513875: did you check its entry on winehq.org?
[11:26] <abs0lutek0ld> ???
[11:26] <eagles0513875> contrast83: what do i have to look for in the app db of wine
[11:26] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: using wine
[11:26] <contrast83> just the name of the game
[11:26] <eagles0513875> its on there
[11:27] <eagles0513875> ive gotten it to work on feisty
[11:27] <eagles0513875> only thing that suxs r the fps
[11:27] <eagles0513875> hopefully thats improved
[11:27] <abs0lutek0ld> not shure..  my luck has always been hit or miss.
[11:27] <abs0lutek0ld> been playing savage earth myself since they released the native linux verson free
[11:28] <eagles0513875> nice
[11:29] <contrast83> i'm hoping Orange Box will get a native linux version soon.
[11:29] <eagles0513875> wow did have one at one point but they got rid of it during beta testing i dunno y
[11:29] <abs0lutek0ld> would worship the gods of valve if hl went native to linux
[11:29] <contrast83> abs0lutek0ld: you heard about that job posting they had on their site, right?
[11:29] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: u use cedega or wine
[11:30] <abs0lutek0ld> yeah.  but it isn't native..
[11:30] <abs0lutek0ld> no contrast83
[11:30] <contrast83> abs0lutek0ld: they were looking for people to port their games to Linux
[11:30] <eagles0513875> im lucky i gave my resume to a guy who works for a software company and i think he is goign ot hire me after i graduate in 2011
[11:30] <contrast83> i'd imagine HL would be one of them
[11:30] <eagles0513875> im working on a bsc in Computing and information systems
[11:31] <abs0lutek0ld> would love to be on the project but i just started going back to school and have the programming skill of a limabean
[11:31] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: im teh same
[11:31] <eagles0513875> im a noob when it comes to java
[11:31] <eagles0513875> its one of the classes i have to take for my degree
[11:32] <abs0lutek0ld> ditto though i am more interested in c and python
[11:32] <contrast83> ^ +1
[11:33] <contrast83> i want to get just a bit firmer a grasp on bash before i move onto anything more involved than that though.
[11:33] <abs0lutek0ld> but that is still a long way off for me..  not many of the creds transfer from what i was studying so i am back to zip
[11:33] <abs0lutek0ld> ^+1
[11:33] <contrast83> heh
[11:34] <abs0lutek0ld> and my hobbies are the kind of time intensive ones that leave me little time for things like sleeping
[11:34] <contrast83> speaking of which, i think i'm gonna go finish this script i've been working on. good chatting, y'all.
[11:34] <abs0lutek0ld> latter
[11:35] <eagles0513875> contrast83: what kinda script
[11:35] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: google dive into python
[11:35] <eagles0513875> free online book
[11:36] <contrast83> a git script for compiz. trying to make one that does some extra stuff the 325235 other ones out there don't do though. :-)
[11:36] <heiner> did anybody get compiz working with nVidia graphics card for the amd64 architecture?
[11:36] <contrast83> byte size python is a good start for python also. a little more introductory than diveintopython, i think.
[11:37] <contrast83> heiner: did you try compiling it?
[11:37] <heiner> no
[11:37] <abs0lutek0ld> right now i'm trying to build a ftir multitouch display.. bouncing ir light around capuring it with a webcam and then projecting my display against it.  large touchscreen monitor yay
[11:37] <heiner> debian "unstable" distribution
[11:37] <contrast83> heiner: you might need to go that route
[11:37] <abs0lutek0ld> will have to check it out
[11:38] <contrast83> heiner: doesn't same have amd64 debs for compiz?
[11:38] <contrast83> s/same/shame
[11:38] <heiner> contrast83: yes, there are packages, but once I get to "compiz --replace &" my window decorations vanish, and that's it :-(
[11:39] <heiner> contrast83: "shame"?
[11:41] <contrast83> shame maintains a 3rd party debian repo for compiz
[11:41] <contrast83> but it sounds like that might not help you.
[11:41] <contrast83> heiner: did you already ask in #compiz-fusion?
[11:42] <heiner> contrast83: I was not aware of that channel. I'll try it, thanks!
[11:42] <contrast83> np
[11:43] <abs0lutek0ld> Does anyone have a clue why sound in k is being pissy. system sounds are fine but sometimes if i am watching something on youtube or playing a game the sound comes back whisper quiet. and then comes back unexpectedly.
[11:43] <abs0lutek0ld> how would i find out what is hijacking alsa
[11:44] <contrast83> maybe try keeping an eye on top while it happens?
[11:44] <contrast83> or is it too inconsistent for that?
[11:45] <abs0lutek0ld> usually i dont see anything different on top..
[11:45] <contrast83> hmm
[11:47] <abs0lutek0ld> firefox will be hogging resources for whatever and nothings else is burnning anything special..  then a minute later its like k goes "oh shit you needed that oh sorry. whatever was i thinking" and my ears start bleeding because i had the amplified volume all the way up
[11:47] <Locke> I has a problem. Could I have some help with restarting/resetting the internet connection?
[11:47] <contrast83> lol
[11:48] <contrast83> Locke: wireless?
[11:48] <Locke> Nope
[11:48] <eagles0513875> what does it take to program in 64bit
[11:48] <abs0lutek0ld> kahonies
[11:48] <contrast83> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:48] <contrast83> Locke: that should do it
[11:49] <kass> The htaccess is disabled on my apache, I worked hard to enable it but I couldn't ! :(
[11:49] <kass> anyone can help ?
[11:50] <Locke> Doesn't seem to work. Due to my ISP I get frequent disconnects. In windows I just had to repiar the connection to get it working again
[11:50] <eagles0513875> Locke: what kinda card is it
[11:51] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: whats so different from 32bit programming
[11:51] <Locke> built-in
[11:51] <eagles0513875> Locke: do lscpi and it lists all ur devices and one of thsoe will be ur wireless
[11:51] <eagles0513875> mines built in too but that doesnt say much
[11:52] <eagles0513875> my exact model is a bcm4306
[11:53] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: what bout programming in 64bit takes balls
[11:53] <abs0lutek0ld> i honestly dont know.  just was being silly..  it would probably have to do with the increased bandwith i know programming in 64 does eat up more memory
[11:53] <contrast83> eagles0513875: it's not a wireless card
[11:53] <eagles0513875> contrast83: oh
[11:54] <eagles0513875> abs0lutek0ld: it might eat up more memory but its alot faster then 32bit
[11:54] <lg188> i kiledf a programm in the bar downside and i have no bar no more !!!!
[11:55] <lg188> te bar disapears
[11:55] <lg188> any body knows a solution ?
[11:55] <abs0lutek0ld> i know that it was a problem back in the day when a few select arch's went 64 because of memory constraints back in the day but today there shouldn't be any reason not to. (is why the memory banks on my sparcs are 16 slots!!!!!!!!)
[11:57] <heiner> eagles0513875: programming for 64-bit in the easiest case only requires the right compiler ;-)
[11:57] <lg188> hello
[11:57] <lg188> i aksed somthing
[11:57] <eagles0513875> heiner: r there any in kubuntu
[11:57] <eagles0513875> !64bit
[11:57] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[11:58] <contrast83> !patience | lg188
[11:58] <ubotu> lg188: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:59] <lg188> contrast83 srry i dont lik to wait i such ac situation m srry ^.^
[11:59] <contrast83> i don't think anybody does. ;-)
[12:00] <contrast83> lg188: could you rephrase your question? i'm not sure what you mean.
[12:01] <pabligeno> hi
[12:01] <lg188> i killed a programme with that skull i klicked on kate (i think) in my bar a the bottom of screen and my bar disapears
[12:01] <pag> lg188, alt+f2 -> kicker
[12:02] <lg188> pag i can not use alt+f2
[12:02] <pabligeno> mmmmmm
[12:02] <pabligeno> i
[12:02] <pabligeno> i need other interface terminal
[12:02] <pabligeno> differ of konsole
[12:02] <jpatrick> pabligeno: yakuake
[12:02] <pabligeno> can help me please?
[12:02] <pag> lg188, hmm... alt+space? yakuake?
[12:03] <pag> pabligeno, yakuake rocks :)
[12:03] <pabligeno> :D
[12:03] <lg188> katapult
[12:03] <contrast83> alt+space -> exec kicker
[12:03] <pabligeno> and vativer terms?
[12:03] <pabligeno> and native terms?
[12:03] <lg188> tried
[12:03] <pag> !info yakuake | pabligeno
[12:03] <ubotu> pabligeno: yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 167 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[12:03] <lg188> nope nothing find ding like that
[12:04] <funcrush> what is 'Queue Track' in desktop-dolphin?
[12:04] <pabligeno> mmmmmmm
[12:04] <contrast83> lg188: sounds like you borked your settings, maybe. you might log out and bak in to make sure. if it still happens after that, try deleting ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and then logging out/in again
[12:04] <jpatrick> funcrush: probably for amarok
[12:05] <contrast83> lg188: just so you know, deleting that file will reset the panel to how it was by default
[12:05] <funcrush> jpatrick: ah... thanks!!
[12:05] <lg188> contrast83 with alt-space i can run qounceere
[12:06] <lg188> or kopnsole
[12:06] <contrast83> ?
[12:07] <lg188> qouncerer and konsole
[12:07] <contrast83> lg188: is english your native language?
[12:08] <lg188> contrast83 nope
[12:08] <contrast83> what is?
[12:09] <eagles0513875> are there any 64bit compilers for kubuntu
[12:09] <lg188> delet that file
[12:09] <RurouniJones> French or Flemish is my bet.
[12:10] <RurouniJones> Since he is in Belgium.
[12:10] <lg188> contrast83 my native language?
[12:10] <contrast83> right
[12:10] <lg188> RurouniJones flemish
[12:10] <contrast83> hmm
[12:10] <RurouniJones> Dutch
[12:10] <RurouniJones> forthe channel language
[12:10] <lg188> RurouniJones how knowing my cuntry ?
[12:11] <RurouniJones> Ik been in belgie gebooren
[12:11] <RurouniJones> But I am English
[12:11] <contrast83> i don't know the tip for dutch
[12:11] <lg188> RurouniJones hehe
[12:11] <RurouniJones> try nl
[12:11] <RurouniJones> the country code
[12:11] <lg188> ?
[12:11] <jpatrick> !nl | lg188
[12:11] <ubotu> lg188: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:11] <RurouniJones> Groovy
[12:11] <lg188> jpatrick just wont to it myslef
[12:12] <lg188> but they are not  doing anything
[12:12] <lg188> here more people taht in the other
[12:13] <eagles0513875> !pastbin
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: why am i getting this error with frost wire http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43111/
[12:14] <lg188> jhow to log of
[12:14] <lg188> ? ithout the k menue ?
[12:14] <jpatrick> eagles0513875: I don't know everything ;)
[12:14] <lg188> bey
[12:14] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: i was just asking hoping that u might
[12:14] <contrast83> lg188: right-click the desktop? if that doesn't work, ctrl+alt+backspace (that's always a last resort ;-) )
[12:14] <jpatrick> eagles0513875: maybe wrong java?
[12:14] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: its funny how im getting that error cuz i have the java6 jdk and jre
[12:15] <RurouniJones> heh
[12:15] <RurouniJones> I think he managed to logoff...
[12:15] <jpatrick> eagles0513875: hmm, I know next to nothing about Java
[12:15] <jpatrick> contrast83: that was evil
[12:15] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: if u look under the java vm its saying something about the libc6 could that be the cause of the error
[12:15] <eagles0513875> lol having him reset his x
[12:16] <contrast83> jpatrick: ? he wanted to know how to log out.
[12:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:16] <contrast83> he didn't have kicker
[12:16] <jpatrick> and he's back, wb lg188
[12:16] <eagles0513875> i need a dev machine cuz this laptop is no where close to being a good dev machine
[12:16] <lg188> jpatrick ty^.^
[12:20] <lg188> sombody knows a soure editor ?
[12:21] <lg188> for games
[12:21] <heiner> vi?
[12:22] <alagaesia> witam
[12:22] <jpatrick> kate?
[12:22] <heiner> just kidding
[12:22] <jxxt> has anyone managed to get a ati mobility radeon 9000 better tha 140fps for glxgears???
[12:22] <jxxt> than
[12:23] <lg188> yes but with a auto scripting thing that hiligths bugs
[12:24] <lg188> witam ?
[12:24] <lg188> some polishe thing
[12:24] <lg188> jpatrick kate is ther an debug mode for games ?
[12:24] <RurouniJones> lg188: Which language? C++, Java?
[12:25] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:25] <lg188> i think c++
[12:25] <eagles0513875> lg188: for java u have to use eclipse which is a fully fledged java ide
[12:25]  * contrast83 hides
[12:25] <eagles0513875> this is getting really frustrating
[12:25] <lg188> eagles0513875 kk your doing wierd
[12:25] <eagles0513875> lg188: ?
[12:25] <RurouniJones> Eclipse can also do c++
[12:25] <eagles0513875> wine just has me frustrated
[12:25] <eagles0513875> really
[12:26] <lg188> eagles0513875 your ahhh... thing is wierd wat is furstrating ?
[12:26] <lg188> eagles0513875 wien ??
[12:26] <lg188> wine*
[12:26] <eagles0513875> i have my seconding wow cd in there and they its not continuing the installation
[12:26] <j_raphaa> eclipse can do c++
[12:26] <RurouniJones> eagles0513875: #winehq if you need wine help.
[12:26] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: they r just a bunch of aholes
[12:26] <eagles0513875> they just told me to go to the faq
[12:27] <eagles0513875> which didnt help at all
[12:27] <RurouniJones> Then phrase the question like "blah blah blah, I have read the faq at * but can't find anything"
[12:27] <lg188> eagles0513875 kk it looks like its your first tilme you get angry
[12:27] <jpatrick> !language | eagles0513875
[12:27] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:27] <eagles0513875> jpatrick: i truncated that lol
[12:28] <jpatrick> yeah, but, imagine your niece was here
[12:28] <eagles0513875> oh
[12:28] <lg188> eagles0513875 put a smile on your face here please
[12:28] <eagles0513875> true
[12:28] <eagles0513875> it is on but at same time frustrating when u wanna install something and dealing wiht java that u havent been taught in class yet lol
[12:28] <eagles0513875> like how to program applets while trying to figure out why wine wont continue installing
[12:29] <eagles0513875> and the wine room being dead isnt helping the situation
[12:29] <lg188> kk
[12:34] <lg188> it qiut now
[12:38] <lg188> "it's o so quiet it's o so still" björk -it's o so still
[12:38] <lg188> 10mniuets nothing to say :(
[12:39] <lg188> cheerup
[12:39] <jpatrick> silence is golden
[12:39] <lg188> are you talking in some sort àf private srevr that i dont know about ???
[12:40] <jpatrick> but that's not the case with my laptop fan
[12:40] <lg188> of*
[12:40] <lg188> ^.^
[12:41] <lg188> whein i hve to bee always the  .....(lost the word)
[12:41] <lg188> have*
[12:43] <lg188> i hav to leav you all tonight for 1month i thnik i have no wlan or internet in my chamebre
[12:43] <lg188> sso i vant talk to you for almost a month
[12:45] <lg188> thank you for ho helped me for your help and time and patience becaus i dint always have that patienve like you have
[12:45] <lg188> but now i have to leave for a to long time
[12:45] <jpatrick> cya later lg188
[12:46] <lg188> jpatrick ty =)
[12:53] <z1pp3r> My audigy2 card worked in 7.04 kubuntu, but in ubuntu 7.10 i'm having problems. It seems to detect both my onboard soundcard and my audigy, but i hear no sound from my audigy? How to enable it?
[12:55] <TheKing> what is the command to unlock adept manager's process?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[12:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:56] <TheKing> thank u
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yeer welcome
[12:57] <Locke> Hi, I'm wondering if there's a command in linux for, like, "repair network" or something?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Locke, there is a "manual configuration" option in network manager
[12:58] <Locke> I get disconnected on aregular basis due to my isp. Would be nice with a command to "regain network" activity without having to reboot
[12:59] <Locke> BluesKaj: Will check.
[13:00] <Locke> BluesKaj: Manual config for what?
[13:00] <z1pp3r> Locke: you connected through a wired ethernet connection?
[13:00] <Hamra> hi all, i changed some of my windows partitions last night, and now grub wont boot, i guess maybe because the partition numbers changed, how can i fix this?
[13:00] <Locke> z1pp3r: yes.
[13:01] <z1pp3r> Locke: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[13:01] <z1pp3r> should work
[13:01] <Locke> brb then, will try
[13:01] <z1pp3r> replace eth0 with the name of your network card
[13:01] <z1pp3r> found in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:02] <Locke> aha
[13:02] <Hamra> is there a way to reinstall grub? im a complete novice in bootloaders
[13:02] <z1pp3r> Hamra: search the ubuntu wiki for "recover grub"
[13:02] <z1pp3r> !recoveringGrub
[13:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:03] <Hamra> thnx a lot
[13:03] <z1pp3r> np
[13:03] <Locke> "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured. Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[13:03] <z1pp3r> Locke: what interfaces do you see in /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:03] <Locke> (My interface name IS eth0, though)
[13:03] <z1pp3r> hmm
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Hamra, I recommend SuperGrub disk , it's a handy bootable bootloader restore app that you burn to a cd ...saved my loader afew times
[13:04] <z1pp3r> i always just use the live cd, cant be bothered with burning another cd =P
[13:04] <Locke> Anyone know what command to use? :S
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hamra, it will restore both Windows MBR and Grub if need be
[13:22] <oem> ciao
[13:24] <timri> shi
[13:24] <timri> hi
[13:24] <jpatrick> !hello | timri
[13:24] <ubotu> timri: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:25] <donsdw> How do I determine the filesystem of an unmounted partition?
[13:25] <jpatrick> donsdw: tried using qtparted?
[13:25] <Jucato> "fdisk -l" perhaps
[13:28] <donsdw> jpatrick: No, is that a linux command or someone's software?
[13:29] <jpatrick> donsdw: it's in the repos (apt-get install qtparted)
[13:29] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, system settings/advanced/disk&file systems
[13:30] <BluesKaj> if you just want a look
[13:30] <donsdw> jpatrick: You know, I think I did look at it once.  Is it a gnome app?
[13:30] <jpatrick> no QTparted ;)
[13:31] <timri> donsdw: you are confused with GTparted
[13:32] <timri> Since my move from Dapper to Gutsy my konqueror wont browse into tar/bzip etc archives anymore. Nor do the archives show up in the treeview. Anyone know how to repair that? (by the way: I removed Ark)
[13:32] <donsdw> timri: You may be correct, sir.
[13:33] <donsdw> I'm installing qtparted now.
[13:35] <timri> Or, as a more general question: how to I re-associate mimetypes/extensions/whatever with the proper kioslave
[13:35] <emilsedgh> timri: you should have Ark...
[13:35] <emilsedgh> timri: go to Settings->Configure konqueror->File Associations
[13:35] <timri> emilsedgh: I uninstalled it, cant stand it. And anyway, I have never needed it, since konqueror (without Ark) could drill into the archives just fine
[13:35] <donsdw> jpatrick: Thanks.  qtparted has the info I need.
[13:36] <timri> emilsedgh: File Assocs wont let me associate with kioslaves (at least I dont see how to do it)
[13:36] <emilsedgh> timri: no, i think konqueror needs ark to show archives inside itself, lemme see
[13:36] <timri> emilsedgh: That was certainly not neccesary in Dapper days.
[13:36] <emilsedgh> timri: you should choose 'Embeeded Viewer' instead of 'Seperate Viewer' in top of the window
[13:36] <aleale2> hi
[13:37] <aleale2> I have a problem
[13:37] <aleale2> I have a process that starts to eat all my cpu
[13:37] <timri> emilsedgh: Will try that, one minute
[13:37] <aleale2> but neither top and ksystemguard shows it
[13:37] <drag0> ps aux
[13:37] <aleale2> I'm sure that eats cpu because a them eof superkaramba shows 100% cpu eating and the fun is always on
[13:37] <vincent_> I just tried compiz fusion on kubuntu gutsy. no icons appear on ccsm. all defau;t plugin settings just seem wierd to begin with... is that normal?
[13:37] <aleale2> how can I do?
[13:38] <funcrush> what mean "queue track" in amork?
[13:38] <timri> emilsedgh: x-tar was already set to embedded, sadly
[13:38] <emilsedgh> timri: i have ark but no embeeded viewer, so let me search a little
[13:38] <aleale2> is there a way to show this hidden process that eats all my cpu?
[13:38] <timri> emilsedgh: That would be great, thanks
[13:39] <anton_> My amarok won't start...any good command to force it or something?
[13:39] <timri> emilsedgh: Btw: I CAN browse into the archives if I (manually) prepend the path with the correct protocol (tar:/)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> funcrush, it means put track in the active playlist
[13:40] <funcrush> BluesKaj, thanks so much!!
[13:40] <emilsedgh> timri: dunno, cant find anything :(, but i think there is a missing .dektop file somewhere or something like that, because konqueror can do that, but do not knows itself
[13:41] <timri> emilsedgh: yeah, that was what I was afraid of. teaches me a lesson: never fresh install while keeping /home :)
[13:42] <emilsedgh> timri: hm, i did a fresh install without keeping home, i havent it to, so maybe feisty+ fault (im on feisty)
[13:42] <timri> emilsedgh: Newly created users have the same problem on gutsy
[13:42] <timri> emilsedgh: Do you see the archives konquerors treeview?
[13:43] <emilsedgh> timri: so maybe its the fault of newer versions of ubuntu or kde
[13:43] <emilsedgh> no
[13:44] <timri> emilsedgh: Thats what I am starting to think. Iam gonne diff the dapper and gutsy skeleton settings this evening, perhaps I can find the culprit that way
[13:44] <emilsedgh> so if you found something, please send a patch or fill a bug report to devs :)
[13:44] <timri> emilsedgh: Will do, and thanks for your time.
[13:45] <emilsedgh> np timri
[13:45] <ubuntu_user> could someone please tell me how to change from using kdm to gdm?
[13:46] <hoscheee> hi all
[13:48] <toby> When I mount a newly formatted hard disk via a USB-IDE converter I see a directory called lost+found. What is this?
[13:50] <vbgunz> does Kubuntu have a font browser?
[13:51] <MarcC> I upgraded to Gutsy last week and haven't had any upgrades available from Adept since. Is that normal?
[13:51] <toby> vbgunz: Point Konqueror at a fonts directory.
[13:51] <toby> vbgunz: It does thumbnails for them.
[13:52] <toby> vbgunz: If you type ttf into the address bar, locate will show you where they are all kept.
[13:53] <llutz> toby: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[13:54] <benpicco> Hi, i installed the fglrx driver for my X1950, but i can't get direct rendering working - here is my xorg.conf, any ideas what to change?
[13:54] <benpicco> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/18886
[13:56] <vbgunz> toby: thanks, konqueror insist though on searching google for ttf. I enabled locate in web shortcuts, not sure what the problem is. I may go to console with locate if I cannot get it to work :)
[13:56] <foxhound31> its a question about symbolic links from MY documents to home/keith/desktop
[13:56] <foxhound31> linux doesnt seem to recognise my documents as one directory
[13:56] <timri> MarcC: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[13:56] <foxhound31> which makes it a little difficult
[13:57] <Bugzilla> anybody speak russian?
[13:57] <foxhound31> any advice on how I should do this?
[13:57] <bazhang> !ru
[13:57] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[13:57] <timri> vbgunz: web shortcuts-> default search engine
[13:57] <vbgunz> I get something with locate:\ttf
[13:57] <vbgunz> actually nothing
[13:57] <vbgunz> heh, maybe a wildcard
[13:58] <MarcC> thanks timri...I just did apt-get upgrade and I got the compiz thing...I guess I'm concerned that the Adept tray icon isn't working right.
[13:58] <vbgunz> timri: I got something with locate:\*.ttf
[13:59] <toby> llutz: Thanks.
[14:00] <vbgunz> I don't get previews though. I changed my default view mode from detailed to a bunch of others. I do not see previews :/
[14:00] <foxhound31> does linux recognis directories like MY Documents or do they have to be my.documents?
[14:01] <vbgunz> foxhound31: it'll recognize anything
[14:01] <foxhound31> yeah then thats more confusing
[14:01] <toby> vbgunz: In Konqueror, you have view/previews in the menu... everything enabled?
[14:01] <vbgunz> foxhound31: but linux is case sensitive so MY DOCs is different from my docs OR My Docs
[14:01] <vbgunz> toby: checking
[14:02] <foxhound31> yeah remember that now from university
[14:02] <timri> foxhound31: Linux even lets you put question marks etc in filenames
[14:02] <vbgunz> toby: if I hover I get a preview
[14:02] <foxhound31> the symbolic link seems to think that My Documents is 2 directories
[14:02] <vbgunz> toby: e.g., I do not have view > preview
[14:03] <foxhound31> can I enclose it in quotes or something to get around that?
[14:03] <llutz> foxhound31: My\ Documents    or "My Documents"
[14:03] <foxhound31> ok cool
[14:03] <timri> foxhound31: Or use the tab key in konsole
[14:03] <toby> vbgunz: Set view mode toIcon view.
[14:04] <vbgunz> toby: yeah I tried that. I just see big icons of ttf... no preview though... maybe my preview settings are interfering here, I'll check for them
[14:04] <foxhound31> and just to be sure I do ln source target
[14:04] <foxhound31> or is ln -s target source?
[14:05] <timri> foxhound31: Open konqueror, type #ln in the location bar (# opens the manpage)
[14:05] <foxhound31> ok thanks
[14:05] <vbgunz> toby: I enabled previews
[14:05] <vbgunz> on fonts files that is :)
[14:05] <vbgunz> toby: it looks good, thank you for your help :)
[14:07] <livingdaylight> how come kubuntu took 1/2 hr longer than Ubuntu?
[14:08] <livingdaylight> since kde is soooooo konfigurable... can i have the workspaces in a single row instead of a square?
[14:09] <timri> livingdaylight: make your taskbar less tall
[14:09] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: you're going to be asking a ton of questions like that. experiment. yes
[14:09] <llutz> livingdaylight: settings rows 1
[14:09] <vbgunz> :)
[14:09] <livingdaylight> yes, i'm new to kde and kubuntu... i want to make it look as nice possible
[14:09] <timri> vbgunz: :)
[14:10] <livingdaylight> vbgunz: do you get alot of people ask alot of questions like that?
[14:10] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: I asked a lot of questions like that :)
[14:11] <vbgunz> after a while, you'll get it :)
[14:12] <livingdaylight> vbgunz: maybe you can help me then... i probably have alot of questions like you did
[14:12] <foxhound31> just back to say thank you for the help I got it to work
[14:12] <foxhound31> bye for now
[14:12] <timri> foxhound31: cool, cya
[14:12] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: do you know about kcontrol?
[14:12] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: thats probably the heart and center blood of KDE configurations
[14:13] <livingdaylight> vbgunz: no... i just see 'K's' everywhere... its disturbing
[14:13] <timri> vbgunz: And it got shoved to the background by Kubuntu in favor of ksystemsettings brrrr
[14:13] <livingdaylight> where is K Kontrol?
[14:14] <timri> livingdaylight: alt+F2 kcontrol
[14:14] <vbgunz> timri: imho, that is retared... instead of making modules that'll fit right into kcontrol, they duplicated the effort... I can only imagine how much wasted time went into that :(
[14:15] <timri> vbgunz: I concur, and instead of what the usability folks say, it is a LOT harder to use for my parents (switched to kcontrol their computers)
[14:15] <vbgunz> heh, I remember that being one of the first things I did. i changed the shortcut to point to kcontrol
[14:16] <timri> vbgunz: Same here. I also removed dolphin (or d3lphin as it is apparently called)
[14:16] <MarcC> how can I view where my HD partitions are mounted to (/dev/sda, etc)?
[14:16] <timri> MarcC: kinfocenter
[14:16] <MarcC> thanks timri
[14:16] <vbgunz> I used Ubuntu for a long time. then tried PC-BSD. PC-BSD came with KDE and after a lot of experimenting it got me hooked to KDE. when I switched to Kubuntu, I could not find kcontrol in the menus. I got burnt. I eventually found it and paid my homage to the great app :)
[14:17] <livingdaylight> llutz: settings rows 1? can you tell me where?
[14:17] <timri> vbgunz: (whispers) I prefer the non-fouled up version of debian
[14:18] <llutz> livingdaylight: rightclick on switcher-applet, settings ->
[14:18] <vbgunz> timri: I am considering that. dolpin is freaking scary. I mean, if over time, more and more apps are swapped out for simpler ones. Gnome just might end up the more configurable OS out of the box :(
[14:18]  * vbgunz shutters
[14:18] <leonardo> ciao
[14:18] <leonardo> italia
[14:19] <bazhang> !it
[14:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:19] <livingdaylight> llutz: switcher-applet?
[14:19]  * timri has to go to
[14:19] <llutz> workspace-switcher
[14:20] <livingdaylight> llutz: when i right click on it i don't get settings?
[14:20] <llutz> livingdaylight: if you move the mouse over it, you should see a small arrow appearing. rightclick there
[14:20] <livingdaylight> llutz: i get configre desktop
[14:22] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: right click the virtual desktop applet -> pager options
[14:24] <livingdaylight> vbgunz: where is virtual desktop applet?
[14:24] <vbgunz> it is called pager
[14:24] <livingdaylight> llutz: i don't get any arrow
[14:24] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: to get the arrow on the left of any applet, you'll need to unlock your panels
[14:25] <livingdaylight> vbgunz: pager options... yes, thx
[14:25] <vbgunz> they might not show depending on your settings, but a grippy should be on the left of every applet
[14:25] <Jester45> can you add something to a shortcut to have the window open in the upperright hand corner of my screen with it having no boarders and is on top of all the other windows?
[14:25] <livingdaylight> now how can i make panel single row?
[14:26] <vbgunz> livingdaylight: right click it -> pager options
[14:26] <vbgunz> take your time
[14:26] <vbgunz> :)
[14:27] <vbgunz> Jester45: kcontrol > Desktop > Window-Specific Settings
[14:28] <vbgunz> Jester45: or Alt+F3 on the Window, Advanced > Special * and save the settings there
[14:28] <vbgunz> gotta go, have fun!
[14:31] <zarath> Hi, klipper seems to remember by default everything that is selected. Is there a way to make it remember only what I manually decide to copy?
[14:34] <Jester45> thanks
[14:34] <ardchoille> zarath: yes, right click on clipper.. choose "configure klipper", check "ignore selection"
[14:35] <livingdaylight> i click on pager option and want to remove numbers of window switcher but they're still there?
[14:37] <zarath> ardchoille, duh! it was there all along! stupid me. thanks for that :)
[14:38] <ardchoille> zarath: yw :)
[14:46] <resakse> hi..anyone know how to share a ntfs partition using samba? keep getting permission denied in log files...I remember on gnome fiesty, I dont have that problem
[14:46] <resakse> i can share directory in my home folder, no problem..
[14:48] <livingdaylight> anyone know any howto's to beautify kubuntu?
[14:48] <livingdaylight> i'm not happy with my default look here at all
[14:49] <resakse> livingdaylight: check kde-look.org
[14:49] <livingdaylight> nothing kubuntu specific?
[14:49] <Dragnslcr> !themes
[14:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[14:50] <resakse> anyone know how to fix my problem?
[14:51] <livingdaylight> Dragthat's all for Ubuntu
[14:52] <MarcC> is it possible to run KDE4 alongside 3.5.8?
[14:52] <Dragnslcr> livingdaylight- Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE as the default instead of Gnome
[14:52] <Jucato> MarcC: currently? yes.
[14:52] <ardchoille> MarcC: See the topic
[14:52] <MarcC> Does KDE4 require compositing?
[14:53] <Jucato> not unless you want kwin effects
[14:53] <Dragnslcr> livingdaylight- and I would assume that kde-look.org and kubuntu-art.org have KDE themes
[14:53] <Jucato> er.. if you want kwin effects I mean
[14:53] <MarcC> ok, so plasmoids should work OK without compositing?
[14:53] <MarcC> I want to do some theming work
[14:53] <MarcC> but I don't want to break my desktop :D
[14:53] <Jucato> hm...
[14:53] <resakse> anyone know how to share ntfs partition using samba?
[14:53] <Jucato> theming work this early on?
[14:53] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i can switch to a different menu?
[14:53] <MarcC> Jucato: just for the clock plasmoid :)
[14:53] <resakse> got permission denied in samba's log files
[14:54] <livingdaylight> !kbox?
[14:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbox? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:54] <Jucato> MarcC: heh. ok.. #plasma would be the lace to ask for guidance
[14:54] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: there's kbfx in the repos
[14:54] <MarcC> thanks Jucato
[14:54] <resakse> :(
[14:55] <livingdaylight> ardchoille: ok, i'll try that
[14:55] <Jucato> !changethemes | livingdaylight
[14:55] <ubotu> livingdaylight: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[14:56] <livingdaylight> Jucato: sanx
[14:57] <resakse> [2007/11/03 22:29:29, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1003)
[14:57] <resakse>   '/media/hda5/Limewire' does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [LIMEWIRE] Error was Permission denied
[14:57] <resakse> anyone can help me with this pls...
[14:57] <ardchoille> !patience | resakse
[14:57] <ubotu> resakse: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:58] <resakse> sorry
[14:59] <resakse> well...what good thing about kde4 ? cant find any video/screenshot about it
[14:59] <thomax_> hi, I'm trying to get a list with "ls" recursively, but only 2 directories deep, I can't seem to find it in the manual :/, I know I have to do "ls -R" but I can't find the missing statement to get it only to go 2 directories deep
[15:01] <livingdaylight> having isntalled kbfx how do i implement it?
[15:01] <jameswf-home> thomax_:  i think you want to use find
[15:01] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: It's a panel applet.. add the applet to the panel.
[15:01] <thomax_> jameswf-home: ok I'll try that
[15:02] <resakse> thomax_: or 'ls -R | more' then ctrl-c to break
[15:02] <jameswf-home> wow that would be painfull
[15:06] <m4rku5> hey guys I have some problems with my wlan card - it doesnt show up on lspci or lspcmcia :( (pcmcia module is loaded)
[15:06] <thomax_> jameswf-home, resakse: i'll try to explaint what I want to acomplish, I want a list of the directories (1st level) and their content (2nd level) and I want the output to be stored in a text file (I know how to do this) and I like the layout of the output of ls more than find's
[15:06] <Jucato> resakse: you can just press Q inside "more" instead of Ctrl+C
[15:06] <jameswf-home> tree
[15:07] <thomax_> jameswf-home: you mean tee?
[15:07] <resakse> Jucato: thanks man...never knew i could do that
[15:08] <Jucato> resakse: and you might want to use "less" instead of "more"... has more features afaik... "less is more than more"
[15:08] <Jucato> or "less is more" as the *nix joke goes
[15:09] <jameswf-home> no sudo apt-get install tree
[15:09] <resakse> thomax_: ls -R > filename.txt
[15:09] <thomax_> resakse: yeah I knew that ;-)
[15:10] <thomax_> my only problem is getting ls to go maximum to level 2 of subdirs
[15:10] <jameswf-home> tree -L 2 /path/to/dir > file
[15:10] <thomax_> jameswf-home: installing now, gonna try in a sec
[15:11] <m4rku5> I have a problem with my wlan card - it doesnt show up on lspci or lspcmcia :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43125/ << can you please look at that ?
[15:11] <jameswf-home> maybe -R -L 2
[15:12] <hdevalence> is there a thing like filelight but that shows how much ram each program is using?
[15:12] <thomax_> jameswf-home: thanx m8, exactly what I needed, '-R' seems not to be nessecary
[15:12] <Daisuke_Ido> htop maybe?
[15:13] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, not quite
[15:13] <snikker> how can i paly .3gp files with audio? with mplayer i can see only the video. can you help me?
[15:14] <Shapeshifter> After installing kubuntu I'm left with a {initramfs} promt after rebooting. I've read about it in the forums but there was no solution that worked for me, what should I do?
[15:14] <jameswf-home> snikker: vlc
[15:14] <snikker> jameswf-home: same thing :-(
[15:14] <jameswf-home> i dunno my phone plays 3gp :)
[15:15] <resakse> snikker: install realplayer
[15:15] <snikker> resakse: ok, i'll try with it. thanks
[15:16] <livingdaylight> i wonder if its possible so that when i switch to a different workspace the panel is empty and not cluttered with everything that was/is in the previous workspace; afterall, that is part of the reason for switching right?
[15:16] <TheKing> How do I multiboot Windows and Kubuntu 7.04?
[15:17] <Jucato> livingdaylight: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar options -> uncheck "Show windows on all desktops"
[15:17] <Shapeshifter> How can I get rid of the vista bootloader and use grub again? I tried reinstalling grub on (hd0) (find..., root (hd3,0), setup (hd0) but there's still no grub showing up but that same old vista bootloader.
[15:17] <livingdaylight> Jucato: sweet
[15:17] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: Which windows version?
[15:17] <TheKing> Windows XP
[15:17] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: have you got windows installed already? or kubuntu?
[15:17] <TheKing> kubuntu
[15:18] <Jucato> !dualboot
[15:18] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[15:18] <resakse> !samba
[15:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[15:18] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: Yeah, look at those guides, I think the easiest way for you is to isntall XP, then boot from the kubuntu live cd and reinstall grub
[15:19] <TheKing> ah ok
[15:19] <joel> Hi!
[15:19] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: it's easy, don't worry, else just come back here
[15:20] <TheKing> if i do that, will the GRUB menu load or will XP boot directly into it?
[15:20] <ardchoille> TheKing: If you reinstall grub, the grub menu should load
[15:21] <TheKing> Will there be a Windows option in GRUB?
[15:21] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: After installing XP grub will be gone, so you boot the live cd and reinstall grub
[15:21] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: I can give you a link on how to reinstall grub
[15:21] <TheKing> please do
[15:21] <ardchoille> Shapeshifter: I was just about to ask for that
[15:22] <jester> hey, so im using feisty and adept doesnt want to allow me to update to gutsy. any ideas?
[15:23] <Shapeshifter> TheKing, ardchoille : http://pastebin.ca/759811
[15:23] <newsense07> anyone know how i can add something to every filename in a dir at once with one command ?
[15:23] <TheKing> thanks
[15:24] <Jucato> newsense07: if you want a GUI app, you can try kfilereplace
[15:24] <newsense07> have 17 directories i need to do this for with multiple files
[15:24] <newsense07> Jucato: in prefer commandline if ya know of something
[15:24] <ardchoille> Shapeshifter: ty
[15:24] <Shapeshifter> TheKing, ardchoille: Important thing is to use the right partition, I said (hd2,0) as an example, you will most likely get something else.
[15:24] <m4rku5> newsense07: you could write a bash script
[15:24] <livingdaylight> on window switcher i click pager options and untick or try to untick Desktop number, but the numbers are still there?
[15:24] <jester> newsense07, i agree with Jucato  on this one...
[15:24] <simisa> Hi everybody, somebody know wich kind of software is similar to symantec pcanywhere ?
[15:24] <TheKing> see i have only 1 hard drive, will it still work?
[15:24] <Jucato> newsense07: unfortunately.... nope... needs bash magic
[15:25] <newsense07> yeah i got no time i guess ill try that, thanks jucato
[15:25]  * Jucato tries to practice bash-fu...
[15:25] <TheKing> with proper partitioning
[15:25] <m4rku5> newsense07: bash wouldnt be that long like for FILES in $(ls /dir) do mv ${FILES} ${FILES}bla done
[15:26] <simisa> Hi everybody, somebody know wich kind of software is similar to symantec pcanywhere ?
[15:26] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i disable konqueror as default browser?
[15:26] <bazhang> simisa: what does that do?
[15:26] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: yes, for grub, the first, and in your case only disk will bi 0, and the partitions, if you have two, will be 0 and 1. So if you have two partitions, first kubuntu, then XP, you will have to use >root (hd0,0) which is the partition kubuntu is installed.
[15:26] <simisa> remote connection to another pc with symantec pcanywhere protocol
[15:26] <livingdaylight> is it possible to purge konqueor or is it part of kubuntu default setup?
[15:26] <newsense07> yeah than id have to modify it evertime i , wait maybe that aint as time consuming
[15:27] <TheKing> ok
[15:27] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: Make sure you use primary partitions for both kubuntu and XP, that will safe you some trouble
[15:27] <TheKing> ok
[15:27] <TheKing> so my steps are:
[15:27] <TheKing> 1) Install XP first
[15:27] <TheKing> 2) Load Live CD and install to HDD
[15:27] <m4rku5> newsense07: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43127/ << take that as a starting point and repalce <tab> with a real tab ;)
[15:27] <Jucato> livingdaylight: I think it's possible. but some parts of KDE might expect KOnqueror to be there. it's more than just a file manager or just a web browser... it's both :)
[15:27] <TheKing> 3) Reinstall GRUB
[15:27] <tuxwulf> livingdayight > I just did thatrecently
[15:28] <m4rku5> newsense07:  $1 and $2 and the 2 parameters
[15:28] <TheKing> right?
[15:28] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: do you have kubuntu installed already?
[15:28] <TheKing> yes i do
[15:28] <tuxwulf> living > as jucato says, better not completely -urge konqueror, but you can set up a different default browser
[15:28] <livingdaylight> Jucato: i  would be happy to make Dolphin the file manager and use opera for browsing or kazehasake even
[15:28] <livingdaylight> tuxwulf: sweet, lets do that already then
[15:28] <Jucato> dolphin...
[15:29]  * Jucato shudders
[15:29] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: have you done your partitioning already? or are you planning on wiping the whole drive (with your kubuntu) and seting everything up from zero?
[15:29] <livingdaylight> Jucato: heh?
[15:29] <Daisuke_Ido> amen, Jucato
[15:29] <newsense07> m4rku5: cool, been a while since i wrote any shell scripts and id like to start doing it more when i need to
[15:29] <posingaspopular> hey Jucato how was your date?
[15:29] <livingdaylight> what's wrong with Dolfin?
[15:29] <Daisuke_Ido> livingdaylight: have you actually *used* dolphin?
[15:29] <TheKing> Shapeshifter: from scratch
[15:29] <Daisuke_Ido> thunar is better.
[15:29] <Jucato> livingdaylight: specially the version of dolphin on Kubuntu 7.10... it's D3lphin.. and it's very... finicky to say the least
[15:29] <tuxwulf> living > system settings -- default applcations
[15:29] <livingdaylight> Daisuke_Ido: not really, i've got fresh kubuntu here first time
[15:30] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: well then it's really easy, just: 1) Wipe everything, 2) Install XP, 3) Install Kubuntu. Kubuntu will handle grub, and there will be a XP entry automatically
[15:30] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[15:30] <TheKing> perfect
[15:30] <Jucato> livingdaylight: better try using D3lphin first before you make a decision :)
[15:30] <m4rku5> btw I still have a problem with my (damn) wlan card - it doesnt show up on lspci or lspcmcia :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43125/ << can you please look at that ? i mean it shows up when booting a knoppix CD :( (its some atheros chip with windows drivers only) so i must have done something wrong here :S
[15:30] <Daisuke_Ido> play with dolphin for a bit then decide
[15:30] <TheKing> well i will be back in maybe 40 mins to do this
[15:30] <Jucato> livingdaylight: and it's the default file manager in Kubuntu 7.10 anyway
[15:30] <livingdaylight> Jucato: why then is it part of default kubuntu install, Do i really need konqueror and dolphin file managers?
[15:30] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: good luck
[15:30] <Daisuke_Ido> you're better off with konqueror
[15:30] <TheKing> Yes, ill need it
[15:31] <m4rku5> Daisuke_Ido: i prefer konqueror too ;P
[15:31] <Jucato> livingdaylight: Konqueror is still there because it's the default web browser installed.
[15:31] <TheKing> total newbie
[15:31] <TheKing> here goes...
[15:31] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: wait
[15:31] <Daisuke_Ido> m4rku5: anyone that's touched d3lphin for any length of time over 10 seconds prefers konqueror
[15:31] <Jucato> livingdaylight: Do you really need konqueror and dolphin as file managers? why don't you try out first and find out for yourself. use if for a week and see
[15:31] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: speaking as someone who has used *buntu for years, d3lphin took too much getting used to and didn't have much of the functionality of konqueror, so I don't use it.
[15:32] <Daisuke_Ido> even nautilus is better :)
[15:32] <livingdaylight> ardchoille: coming from ubuntu i was very happy with nautilus
[15:32] <ardchoille> lol
[15:32] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: nah! D3lphin is better than Nautilus on at least 2 areas
[15:32] <m4rku5> Daisuke_Ido: yeah i saw it the first time when i installed kubuntu on this laptop (im usually a gentoo user but i didnt have lots of time to get this box setup lol)
[15:32] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: Nautilus is cool, d3lphin is.. just too much of a change all at once.
[15:32] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) it's kde and 2) it's not gnome?
[15:32] <livingdaylight> this seems like bloat again... i suppose that's kde though
[15:32] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: D3lphin is KDE, and it has a funky breadcrumb toolbar (unlike GNOME's)
[15:33] <Jucato> bloat is subjective
[15:33] <Jucato> one man's trash is another man's treasure
[15:33] <Shapeshifter> TheKing: you still there?
[15:33] <Daisuke_Ido> how does nautilus not have a breadcrumb toolbar?
[15:33] <ardchoille> Jucato: Exactly
[15:33] <Jucato> coming from GNOME, you'll consider everything functional as bloat! :)
[15:33]  * Jucato runs and hides
[15:33] <livingdaylight> where is Add/Remove Applications so i can add my non-free codecs n stuff?
[15:33] <Jucato> livingdaylight: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[15:33] <livingdaylight> Jucato: har har
[15:33] <Jucato> it's right there
[15:34] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Ido: the breadcrumb toolbar in d3lphin is much different than that of nautilus
[15:34] <livingdaylight> Jucato: gots kbfx now
[15:34] <Daisuke_Ido> however, i think the being able to click on the 'crumbs' and select a different directory at that level is cool
[15:34] <Jucato> livingdaylight: your problem then :P
[15:34] <Daisuke_Ido> you may not like kbfx
[15:34] <Jucato> livingdaylight: j/k. just type in Add and see the results
[15:34] <ardchoille> lol
[15:34] <livingdaylight> Jucato: had to... K Menu is toooo ugly.... just a fact
[15:34] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: yeah. that's my reason #2 :)
[15:34] <Jucato> beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)
[15:34] <Daisuke_Ido> livingdaylight: then go for kickoff
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> or beerholder, as the case may be
[15:35] <Jucato> the most beautiful krap will still be krap though :)
[15:35] <livingdaylight> Jucato: sweet, that worked
[15:35] <Jucato> (not saying kbfx is krap.. but needs work)
[15:35]  * Daisuke_Ido sips a coffee
[15:35] <m4rku5> anyone here familar with PCMCIA cards ? anything special i need to do on (k)ubuntu ? its just now showing up the damn card and i know that the card is compatible with this controller :(
[15:35] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Ido: I had too much trouble getting kickoff to work.
[15:35] <Jucato> ardchoille: really? poor you :P
[15:35] <Daisuke_Ido> install deb, all done :)
[15:35] <livingdaylight> Daisuke_Ido: kickoff another one?
[15:35] <Jucato> yeah :)
[15:35] <Jucato> livingdaylight: there are 3 K Menu alternatives: kbfx, kickoff (originally from SUSE), and tasty menu
[15:36] <Jucato> take your pick :)
[15:36] <Jucato> oh wait, livingdaylight, have you even tried Katapult yet?
[15:36] <Daisuke_Ido> livingdaylight: kickoff is to kbfx as excellent beer is to contaminated water
[15:36] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: tastymenu is pretty cool too
[15:36] <tuxwulf> ....bit too husy here for me...
[15:36] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: can you customize/theme/plugin kickoff (aside from adding/removing favorites)?
[15:36] <livingdaylight> Daisuke_Ido: oh... gotz to try it then... in repos?
[15:36] <livingdaylight> Jucato: hrmmm... so many options
[15:37] <bazhang> kbfx is nice
[15:37] <Jucato> tuxwulf: yeah.. there are times it does :)
[15:37]  * Jucato heres "bloat" comment coming again...
[15:37] <livingdaylight> bazhang: i agree.. kbfx certainly is preferable to K Menu imo
[15:37] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: tastymenu is not in the repos, but there is an ubuntu.deb for it
[15:37]  * livingdaylight wonders what tasty menu looks like
[15:37] <Jucato> unfortunately kbfx development has all but stopped... because of raptor...
[15:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: it's not infinitely customizable, but it's better than kbfx in stability :D
[15:37] <Jucato> livingdaylight: search in kde-apps.org and find out :)
[15:38] <livingdaylight> Jucato: raptor?
[15:38] <bazhang> Jucato: raptor will replace it?
[15:38] <Jucato> bazhang: not really
[15:38] <livingdaylight> is kickoff in repos?
[15:38] <bazhang> cheers.
[15:38] <Jucato> Raptor is the KDE4 "successor" of kbfx
[15:38] <bazhang> oho
[15:38] <Jucato> same devs
[15:38] <Shapeshifter> Eh... I downlaoded a 7.10 gutsy Kubuntu CD, installed it, and now I was updating some stuff and now it tells me that there's a new version "7.10" available... what is this? It's already installed!
[15:38] <Jucato> but completely different
[15:38] <Daisuke_Ido> hopefully less krappy
[15:39] <bazhang> nice
[15:39] <Daisuke_Ido> Shapeshifter: known bug, fix is upstream, yadda yadda
[15:39] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: hopefully also going to even reach beta soon :)
[15:39] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: Look at the download options here:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Tasty+Menu?content=41866
[15:39] <Jucato> livingdaylight: again, have you tried katapult?
[15:40] <livingdaylight> Jucato: whats katapult?
[15:40] <posingaspopular> livingdaylight: i left Jucato a message on his blog that simply read 'katapult' over and over again
[15:40] <Jucato> livingdaylight: katapult is a fancy launcher, like Quicksilver for Mac OS X.
[15:40] <Jucato> posingaspopular:  :)
[15:40] <Jucato> !katapult | livingdaylight
[15:40] <ubotu> livingdaylight: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[15:40] <ardchoille> Jucato: Why does konqueror try to open a .deb in kate instead of downloading it?
[15:40] <posingaspopular> alt+space+program name/musicfile/folder name etc
[15:41] <Jucato> livingdaylight: you can skip the part with Alt+F2
[15:41] <Jucato> livingdaylight: katapult is installed and running by default
[15:41] <Lenaud01> anyone know why my browser would still try to download .php files instead of view them? I have apache and php5_mod installed on kubuntu
[15:41] <Jucato> ardchoille: server bug. workaround, use kget :)
[15:41] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, thanks
[15:41] <Jucato> probably related to Lenaud01's problem as well....
[15:42] <Jucato> or not..
[15:42] <Lenaud01> what is Jucato?
[15:42] <Jucato> nvm :)
[15:43] <Jucato> livingdaylight: press Alt+Space right now, you'll get a fancy box. type a part of the name of a program you want to run, then when the correct program name or icon shows up, press Enter
[15:43] <Jucato> you don't even have to type the full name of the program. it will try to autocomplete based on the characters you've typed
[15:43] <Jucato> and now I'm gone :)
[15:44] <livingdaylight>  ok, i gotz some scrolling up and catching up to do... i was installing kubuntu restricted and the phone went its ALL too much! :D
[15:44] <navets_> if I upgrade to KDE 4, will it upgrade my kernel?
[15:44] <resakse>   my alt-space didnt do anything after loading katapult...maybe due to compiz?
[15:44] <navets_> beta that is
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: KDE != kernel
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> so no
[15:44] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: how can I upgrade my kernel
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> the two have absolutely NOTHING to do with each other :)
[15:44] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: or reinstall it
[15:44] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: you running gutsy?
[15:45] <Jukali> hmmm...in Wind*ws it's called "Extended Desktop" in KDE it's called ...?
[15:45] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: yes I tried to update my sound drivers, now I have no sound at all and no mixer
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not the kernel
[15:45] <Jukali> I think Gome is "Twinview"?
[15:45] <Jukali> Gnome*
[15:45] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: from what I could figure out I am missing snddevices
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> it would be twinview in kde as well...
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: cat /dev/dsp
[15:45] <Jukali> cool - thanks for clarification
[15:45] <livingdaylight> Jucato: nice very nish!
[15:45] <Daisuke_Ido> that may not work
[15:45] <Jukali> probably Ktwinview tho :)
[15:46] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[15:46] <Jukali> j/k
[15:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it's part of X, not gnome
[15:46] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: cat: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[15:46] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[15:46] <Jukali> ok, so I have twinview working
[15:46] <Jukali> that took a while
[15:47] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: from what I understand I have to run the snddevices script. The thing is i have no idea where it is
[15:47] <Jukali> but I have a real niggle...when I go full screen it tries to go across both windows
[15:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Jukali: that's how twinview works.
[15:47] <Jukali> I got it working nce but it didnt retain the settings
[15:47] <Jukali> not in Windows and I have had it working correctly in Gnome, briefly
[15:47] <smorg> does adept's repository manager store its settings somewhere other than in /etc/apt/sources?
[15:47] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: lspci | grep audio
[15:47] <Jukali> when you maximise it maximises to the window it is in
[15:48] <Jukali> also the menus try to stretch across both screens
[15:48] <Jukali> so the bottom one actually drops off
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Jukali: there's no twinview in windows, therefore it can't work that way in windows
[15:48] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: does not return anything when I do that
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> eww
[15:48] <smorg> weird
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> well them
[15:48] <Daisuke_Ido> let me take a look here...
[15:48] <smorg> added a package using adept and it doesn't show up
[15:48] <Jukali> In Windows that's how "extended desktop" works it is also how I have had it working in Gnome
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> smorg: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:49] <ozehka> Firefox can't be closed properly. When I try to restart it, it says another firefox process is still running...
[15:49] <smorg> yeah
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> is your sources list
[15:49] <smorg> yep
[15:49] <Jukali> @ozehka is it in your list of running processes?
[15:49] <ozehka> Yes, I can kill it of course
[15:49] <Lenaud01> there anything you can do if when I try to remove apache it says that its a broken install and wont do anything in adept
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido>  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:49] <ozehka> but why can't i close it properly
[15:49] <Daisuke_Ido> is where the packages get stored
[15:50] <Jukali> does it happen every time?
[15:50] <ozehka> Also, I am having the problem that pages would only show their contents if I change the windows' size
[15:50] <ozehka> yes
[15:50] <Jukali> is it built in Firefix or latest build?
[15:50] <ozehka> latest i think
[15:50] <Jukali> sorry
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Lenaud01: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:50] <Jukali> that wasn't clear
[15:50] <newsense07> Jucato: im trying to append 01-  to all files in a dir using kfilereplace but im having no luck,  how would i do something like that if ya dont mind ?
[15:50] <Lenaud01> ty Daisuke_Ido
[15:50] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: do you think that it has something to do with snddevices since lspci | grep audio does not return anything?
[15:51] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: i don't know enough about sound to know for sure
[15:51] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: do you know where I could run that script? A few forums said to run it, but i have no idea where it is.
[15:51] <Lenaud01> when i try that Daisuke_Ido I get this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: i'm not finding it...
[15:52] <Rebelyouth> hi guys
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Lenaud01: that could be an issue that i'm not sure how to fix :\
[15:52] <Rebelyouth> i need ah help
[15:52] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: damn, is there a way I can redo the gutsy upgrade?
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure adept isn't running
[15:53] <Lenaud01> its not
[15:53] <navets_> Daisuke_Ido: when i went from fiesty to gutsy the sound worked (very poorly)
[15:53] <Rebelyouth> how I can conf the open with menu on konq?
[15:53] <hdevalence> virtualbox is awesome
[15:53] <Daisuke_Ido> navets_: you could back up your /home and reinstall from scratch
[15:53] <BluesKaj> navets_, you could try ,'sudo asoundconf list'
[15:53] <Daisuke_Ido> probably have the best luck that way
[15:53] <livingdaylight> !kickoff
[15:53] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[15:53] <Rebelyouth> pls :(
[15:54] <livingdaylight> guys, where do i get kickoff?
[15:54] <navets_> BluesKaj: that says names of abaliable sound cards: then it returns nothing
[15:55] <BluesKaj> ok, navets_ to choose which souncard you want to use , sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[15:55] <Rebelyouth> nobody?
[15:55] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: i think he means it doesn't return any available sound cards
[15:55] <Daisuke_Ido> in which case, there's a definite problem
[15:55] <BluesKaj> bummer
[15:55] <navets_> BluesKaj: yes it does not return any
[15:55] <navets_> this sucks
[15:56] <navets_> i wish i didn't upgrade to gutsy
[15:56] <livingdaylight> if i already have konqueror or any browser open for that matter, how do i get each weburl to openin a new tab rather than a whole new browser altogether?
[15:56] <navets_> it broke everything
[15:56] <Rebelyouth> somebody know the file rc to conf?
[15:56] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: it's in koinqueror's configure module
[15:56] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: 1 min let me find it
[15:57] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: do configure konqueror>web behavior> tabbed browisng
[15:57] <livingdaylight> hdevalence: thx bro
[15:58] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: can u help me pls?
[15:58] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: ok
[15:58] <Rebelyouth> :)
[15:58] <Rebelyouth> how I can conf the open with menu on konq?
[15:59] <livingdaylight> hdevalence: actually it was already set to that... but from konversation everytime i open a link i get a new browser open... do i need to configure konversation?
[15:59] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: the one you get from rightclicking?
[15:59] <Rebelyouth> yes
[15:59] <newsense07> anyone here familiar with kfilereplace that can help me ?
[16:00] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: I have no idea. for me when I open a link in konversation it opens in the same window
[16:00] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: are they on the same desktop?
[16:00] <livingdaylight> hdevalence: yes
[16:00] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: weird...
[16:01] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: what happens when you do open with... and then do "remember application association"
[16:01] <livingdaylight> hdevalence: also weird is that when you type my name konversation doesn't light up red as it usually does when i'm away
[16:02] <BluesKaj> navets_, have you checked all your alsa and kmix settings ?
[16:02] <navets_> BluesKaj: kmix doesnt detect a mixer
[16:02] <navets_> BluesKaj: kmix doesnt detect a mixe
[16:02] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: You could try asking in the ubuntu forums, they have lots of talented people there
[16:02] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: I remove firefox for swithfox and now when i want to open a page with swithfox the links gone
[16:02] <navets_> BluesKaj: when i do alsamixer in konsol it gives me an error saying its not there
[16:03] <navets_> BluesKaj: i need to run an snddevices script or something like that, but i have no idea where it is
[16:03] <Rebelyouth> i need all the time to do open with > other > write swithfox
[16:03] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: like, you have an html file on your computer and are trying to open it?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> and of course sound system in system settings
[16:04] <livingdaylight> well, its kde related so, i dunno
[16:04] <hdevalence> oh and btw does anyone here know anything about virtualbox?
[16:04] <livingdaylight> where would i find kickoff by the way? hdevalence d'you know?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> navets_, try this : k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[16:05] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: no some page  don't work well so i right click on the open page on konq and with open with open firefox with the same page
[16:05] <navets_> BluesKaj: it already has those settings
[16:05] <hdevalence> livingdaylight: no idea.
[16:05] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: now i change with swithfox and the voice in the menu is dissapear
[16:06] <BluesKaj> which souncard do you have , navets_ ?
[16:06] <navets_> BluesKaj: intel hda
[16:06] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: does it appear in the Location menu
[16:06] <navets_> BluesKaj: i think
[16:06] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: no
[16:06] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: I have open with links2 and that it
[16:07] <hdevalence> Rebelyouth: not sure how to fix it, sorry..
[16:07] <navets_> BluesKaj: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[16:08] <Rebelyouth> hdevalence: I see all the browser installed in my pc have a voice in location and open with but why not swithfox?
[16:09] <Rebelyouth> nobody know what file I need to mod?
[16:10] <navets_> does anyone know where the kernel sourcetree is
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> if installed in /usr/src/linux i belive
[16:11] <Ange|us> hi
[16:11]  * asktoby is about to run a dist upgrade... fingers crossed!
[16:11] <Ange|us> can someone help me, im getting this error/notice when im trying to compile wine on kubuntu gutsy http://rafb.net/p/M1edOF24.html
[16:11] <asktoby> Any last minute warnings? I've done a backup of /home, /etc and my MySQL dbs.
[16:11] <asktoby> I'll be going via Adept's route.
[16:12] <ardchoille> asktoby: are you doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[16:12] <ardchoille> asktoby: nvm, you should be ok
[16:12] <asktoby> ardchoille: I was planning on pressing the big blue Version Upgrade button in Adept.
[16:13] <ardchoille> asktoby: ok
[16:13] <Rebelyouth> somebody know how can configure the bookmarks on konq to don't take all my screen?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> navets_, check this out : http://thio4linux.wordpress.com/2007/10/06/intel-hda-intel-corporation-82801g/
[16:13] <posingaspopular> Jucato: okay i got these core.numbers files in my /home/user folder and when I opened up uped using 'file core.18431' I got this message: core.14831: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style
[16:13] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: Sounds like you need to reorganise your biikmarks, use folders
[16:14] <posingaspopular> or anyone really that knows that answer
[16:14] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: I use but I have much bookmark
[16:14] <navets_> BluesKaj: :) that is what I was doing to fix my sound, but it broke it completly
[16:15] <BluesKaj> gawd
[16:15] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: Even the best organising skills won't help if you have too much content
[16:15] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: so when i click bookmarks a old style panel (like the old menu of win95)
[16:15] <BluesKaj> navets_, I assume lspci lists your card tho ?
[16:15] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: take all my screen
[16:16] <navets_> BluesKaj: yes
[16:16] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: reorganise to have folders within folders?
[16:16] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: is possible to have like firefox a single menu i can go up and down?
[16:16] <katha2> ?
[16:16] <fox1> hi
[16:16] <lillobyte91> salve
[16:16] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: With too much content, even a single menu would require you to scroll too much
[16:16] <BluesKaj> navets_, so it's a matter of installing the correct driver
[16:17] <lillobyte91> spik italian
[16:17] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: i show you
[16:17] <katha2> hmm
[16:17] <navets_> BluesKaj: no, I re-installed the drivers about 10 times, I found out I am missing OSS and MIXER
[16:17] <livingdaylight> does synaptic not feature in kubuntu anymore at all?
[16:17] <fox1> #ubuntu
[16:17] <navets_> BluesKaj: a script called snddevices is supose to be able to fix this, but i cannot find it
[16:18] <debian-is-me> hello
[16:19] <debian-is-me> WHen should alsa be started?
[16:19] <debian-is-me> 1234506s?
[16:19] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2304/bkmrlsuu1.jpg
[16:20] <BluesKaj> navets_, apt-get install module-assistant alsa-source
[16:20] <navets_> BluesKaj: k
[16:20] <navets_> BluesKaj: dling
[16:21] <navets_> BluesKaj: do i have to do anything when this is done?
[16:21] <carbon_monoxide> !alsa
[16:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:21] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: yes, but why i can't conf like firefox?
[16:21] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: to scroll the contest?
[16:21] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: Because konq isn't firefox?
[16:21] <navets_> BluesKaj: still no mixer, same error
[16:21] <navets_> BluesKaj: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[16:22] <bazhang> hi ardchoille
[16:22] <debian-is-me> Alsa isn't working, I configured it not to start. Hiow to make it start?
[16:22] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: :) I khow , but there is some pacth around or some hidden conf file?
[16:22] <crimsun_> keep in mind that alsa-source is older than using linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[16:22] <ardchoille> Rebelyouth: Not that I know of
[16:22] <ardchoille> bazhang: Hi :)
[16:23] <bazhang> join #ubuntu-doc?
[16:23] <Rebelyouth> ardchoille: so I can't scroll eh?
[16:25] <compu73rg33k> So I'm looking to install Kubuntu 7.10 on some new partitions I've created. I just encrypted them all first with cryptsetup, including swap, but left a 1GB partition unencrypted for /boot. I already made the filesystem for all the partitions as well, used ext3 except used swap of course for the swap partition. Now I've double clicked the "install" to start the graphical installer. I'm at the prepare partitions part and I'm not sur
[16:25] <compu73rg33k> e what to do now, how to use my already created partitions. If I assign mount points to them, I have to select a filesystem, and this ends up checking the "format" box, which is uncheckable thereafter
[16:25] <navets_> BluesKaj: this snddevices script is impossible to find
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some old tool. thats not used any more.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> compu73rg33k what do you mean by 'use' ? you can easially mount allready made partitions to Other 'non system' places and not format them.
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> but the install will want to format / and swap and perhaos some other spots
[16:28] <navets_> I think i got the snddevices script
[16:28] <navets_> how do I run it
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> You dont normally install 'over' your old / and so forth
[16:28] <Shapeshifter> How can I have two taskbars for my dual screen setup, one for each screen, which only displays the applications currently on that screen?
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x ./snddevics  ./snddevces
[16:28] <timri> Rebelyouth: You could use the panel instead (F9)
[16:28] <Shapeshifter> I have already enabled twinview and the restricted drivers
[16:29] <navets_> Dr_Willis: thank you
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> Shapeshifter not sure the kde  panels  applicaions panel. has that feature
[16:29] <Rebelyouth> timri: yessss
[16:29] <Rebelyouth> timri: d.. i forgot F9
[16:30] <Rebelyouth> timri:  I hope in kde4 somebody fix this problem
[16:30] <newsense07> anyone here familiar with kfilereplace ?
[16:30] <Rebelyouth> timri: tnx
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> Shapeshifter you may try the 'only show apps on current desktop' setting (i think)  Been ages  since ive explored the kde tools
[16:30] <compu73rg33k> Dr_Willis, yes, but I'm looking to do a fresh install on these encrypted partitions. I've partitioned so that I have a root, usr, home, and swap partition, all encrypted. I also have a 1GB unencrypted boot partition. I'm just wondering how to go about this grahpical installer to use these encrypted partitions b/c at hte partition manager, it doesn't have a filesystem attached to the partitiosn and if I give it one then it's going
[16:30] <compu73rg33k> to reformat it
[16:30] <timri> Rebelyouth: You're welcome
[16:30] <Rebelyouth> timri: i can remove the bookmark menu?
[16:30] <compu73rg33k> I just want it to USE the partitions, not do any partitioning for me. heh.
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> compu73rg33k  they allredy got system data on them?
[16:31] <compu73rg33k> Nope, fresh install Dr_Willis
[16:31] <|dthacker|> hi channel, I finally got around to updating my desktop, and the kubuntu installer is not finding any disks at step 4 of 6.  Seems to be a bit lost.  Any tips?
[16:31] <timri> Rebelyouth: Iam not sure (anyway, that should be done by editing some rc file
[16:31] <Rebelyouth> timri: mmmhhh
[16:31] <timri> Rebelyouth: I useually browse without menu (Ctrl+M)
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> So its asking to format  'empty' partitions. :) I though the instller could set up encrypted filesstems. Ive never used that feature  - so not sure what things to watch out for,
[16:32] <Shapeshifter> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I found that option, it worked
[16:32] <z1pp3r> I have a Logitech MX518 mouse, but i cannot use all of it's buttons in kubuntu 7.10. Anyone know of a guide i could follow?
[16:32] <timri> Dr_Willis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystemsInstaller
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> encrypted filesystem for the truely paranoid.
[16:33] <livingdaylight> does compiz get installed by default in kubuntu?
[16:33] <Dr_Willis>  The easy way would be to let the installer format/encrypt/set them up. :)
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight No.
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[16:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:33] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis:  I've never understood encrypted file systems.
[16:34] <RLoggia> whats the command to make a backup of your xserver-xorg conf?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:34] <timri> ardchoille: You mean the usefulness ? If so, you evidently haven't got your laptop stolen yet.
[16:34] <compu73rg33k> Well it doesn't look like the kubuntu 7.10 has encryption built in
[16:34] <ardchoille> RLoggia: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[16:35] <compu73rg33k> unlike the ubuntu 7.10, at least I heard it has that
[16:35] <ubuntu_> 've got kubuntu 7.10 but there isn't compiz-fusion... why?
[16:35] <ardchoille> timri: Well, if it's something I don't want the world to see, I don't put it on my computer :)
[16:35] <cloakable> !compiz | ubuntu_
[16:35] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:36] <timri> ardchoille: And your emails, account passwords etc ?
[16:36] <ubuntu_> tx
[16:36] <RLoggia> nevermind i got it
[16:36] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: that suits me as my computer doesn't support 3D and therefore compiz, but with ubuntu it was installed nonetheless even though xrender must have detected my system
[16:36] <compu73rg33k> !EncryptedFilesystemsInstaller | ubuntu_
[16:36] <Shapeshifter> cloakable: that guide is with feisty repos
[16:36] <cloakable> Ah :)
[16:36] <Nyle> I have 2.6.22 on and I have the bcm43xx_injection_2.6.22.patch applied to the source file bcm43xx_main.c.  The online resource says compile the modules with make modules and make modules_install.  I was wondering, is there a way to generate the .ko file for JUST the patched bcm43xx and not everything?
[16:36] <RLoggia> anyone using ATI graphics?
[16:37] <ardchoille> timri: emails you can't control, the email server itself can be hacked.. account passwords should be memorised.
[16:37] <compu73rg33k> So there's no way of bypassing the partitioner setup on the graphical installer?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> RLoggia, what's yer question about ati ?
[16:39] <k5ubuntu> i need help installing java on kubuntu 7.10 can somebody guide me threw it
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> k5ubuntu i normally install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package. It included java
[16:40] <timri> k5ubuntu: aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[16:41] <timri> k5ubuntu: It is in multiverse repo btw
[16:41] <k5ubuntu> whats a console command that unlocks my konsole
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> RLoggia, trouble with connection too as well as ati ?
[16:41] <k5ubuntu> its says a program is locking up my adept manager
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Thats not locking the console. :) close out any other package manager tools you got running
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> and then if it still says its locked.
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> !fixadept
[16:41] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:42] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[16:42] <k5ubuntu> thank you dr willis
[16:43] <z1pp3r> I have a Logitech MX518 mouse, but i cannot use all of it's buttons in kubuntu 7.10. Anyone know of a guide i could follow?
[16:43] <asfak> why does adept download duplicate files.? I never had such problem in previous version.
[16:46] <RLoggia> i swear linux hates me /sigh
[16:47] <llutz> RLoggia: Linux is user-friendly, it's just a little picky, who his friends really are" :))
[16:47] <RLoggia> why is it booting me from server ??
[16:47] <asfak> whenever i try to install any application either from konsole, synaptic manager or adept (in my both pc), alongwith a package, similar file get started downloading but stops when earliest file reaches 100%. Is that a bug ?
[16:47] <RLoggia> damnit
[16:48] <OuZo> hi, i have a ATI radeon X700, when i click to enable the restricted driver then restart i dont get anything on my display, i have to do a rescue to get X back
[16:48] <timri> asfak:No, it downloads simultaniously
[16:48] <OuZo> is that normal?
[16:48] <BigPick> Good morning all :)
[16:48] <Jucato> posingaspopular: oops sorry... you seem to need me whenever I'm not here :(
[16:48] <Jucato> posingaspopular: I have no idea what those are either :(
[16:49] <carbon_monoxide> hello
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> OuZo given how much a hassle ATI can be.. sadly - it often is.. HOWEVER.. ati released new linux drivers after gutsy was released.. so they are looking better.
[16:49] <asfak> it been 2 year i have been using kubuntu but never had such problem
[16:49] <RLoggia> hmmm
[16:49] <k5ubuntu> its saysThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> OuZo i dont use any ati cards any more. So i dont know what fix's are needed for their newer cards
[16:49] <OuZo> thanks Dr_Willis
[16:49] <RLoggia> BluesKaj: you have 3D rendering working on 7.10?
[16:49] <TheKing> To those people who helped me with the multibooting, it worked
[16:50] <k5ubuntu> Dr_Willis
[16:50] <posingaspopular> Jucato: apparntly they are crash reports for core dumps that dev use
[16:50] <posingaspopular> i deleted them
[16:50] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, the new recommended driver doesn't work all that well with lower end onboard graphics , most ppl with X200 cards ahave to revert to the restricted driver for 3D and DRI
[16:50] <k5ubuntu> when i try to install the restricted package set it says There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[16:50] <Jucato> posingaspopular: ah ok :)
[16:50] <RLoggia> this is rediculas
[16:50] <OuZo> Dr_Willis: i had it working in 64bit gentoo... i thought (k)ubuntu would be easire, could it have something to do with acpi?
[16:51] <posingaspopular> i just deleted them, they aren't exciting or very intersting
[16:51] <BluesKaj> RLoggia, sort of , not a sgood I'd like...google earth is slow and clunky , but it works on my X200G card
[16:51] <k5ubuntu> can anybody help me when ever i try to install something it says There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[16:51] <Jucato> posingaspopular: or useful :)
[16:52] <BluesKaj> did you get that RLoggia?
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> OuZo  Its just some of the quirks with ati drivers from what i gather.  May be some easy fix. But I dont mess with ati any more.. and proberly wont for a long time
[16:52] <BluesKaj> did you get that RLoggia?
[16:53] <|dthacker|> hi, trying to debug install problems.   Should I be able to see the hard drive from the live CD?
[16:53] <posingaspopular> well im not a hardcore dev, so no ;) notyet
[16:53] <k5ubuntu> yes
[16:53] <timri> k5ubuntu: get out of adept and run aptitude from a konsole, gives more info
[16:54] <k5ubuntu> how do i run aptitude
[16:54] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install <package name> or sudo aptitude install <package name>
[16:54] <carbon_monoxide> just type "sudo aptitude install"
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> k5ubuntu its a terminal command, similer to 'apt-get'
[16:54] <Jucato> (replace <package name> with the package name, without the < >""
[16:54] <Jucato> in Konsole of course
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> |dthacker| 'see' with sudo fdisk -l   - Should work. :)
[16:55] <timri> k5ubuntu: Alt+F2 konsole
[16:55] <carbon_monoxide> I have read some posts sayting aptitude was recommended upon apt-get
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> |dthacker| they may not be mounted by default - so you wont 'see' them in the gui
[16:55] <Jucato> timri: or K Menu -> System -> Konsole, or Alt+Space, "Kons" :)
[16:56] <timri> Jucato: Yeah, but I have modified the &%^&% out of my system, and cant remember de defaults :)
[16:56] <Jucato> :P
[16:56] <|dthacker|> Dr_Willis: live cd doesn't see it with sudo fdisk -l, which may be why installer doesn't detect it.   This is a working SuSE 10 install that I'm trying to Kubuntize.
[16:56] <|dthacker|> SuSE says it's /dev/hda
[16:57] <Jucato> |dthacker|: fdisk sees everything
[16:57] <Downix> Hello from Kubuntu-on-SPARC.  I'm trying to get it set up atm.
[16:57] <Jucato> or should...
[16:57] <carbon_monoxide> hey buddies! which do you use? "apt-get" or "aptitude"? and why?
[16:57] <timri> carbon_monoxide: aptitude, better dep handling
[16:58] <timri> carbon_monoxide: and dep resolver
[16:58] <|dthacker|> Jucato: I wish! ;) maybe time for the alternate install CD
[16:58] <Downix> I use apt-get out of familiarity
[16:58] <carbon_monoxide> timri: *wink*
[16:58] <Downix> been running Debian since '97
[16:59] <timri> Downix: debian is my favorite distro
[16:59] <carbon_monoxide> I like Debian too
[16:59] <Downix> timri: I have debian on my other SPARC box.
[16:59] <posingaspopular> apt-get because it's easiest to run
[16:59] <Downix> It's a 32-bit SPARC vs this SPARC64
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> ive had aptitude do some really... odd things. befor
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:00] <Jucato> apt-* depending on the purpose. aptitude -R install for most installations
[17:00] <carbon_monoxide> does aptitude make any trouble? I use it like apt-get
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> like remove 300 packages.. then reinstall them
[17:00] <Downix> that reminds me, I need to get this box to auto-dhcp
[17:00] <Downix> having to enter it manually is ok, but a bit annoying
[17:01] <|dthacker|> goes to burn an alternate install CD
[17:01] <timri> Dr_Willis: That was a looong time ago, right?
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> timri a few mo ago. :)
[17:01] <timri> Downix: Tried the new project indiana yet?
[17:01] <timri> Dr_Willis: WHoa, thats strange, never happened to me.
[17:02] <ackbahr> Hi there! I'm in an early stage of my system's setup, and my USB drive won't automount.... Can somebody help?
[17:02] <Downix> timri:  yes, but the guys in #solaris have been less than friendly.  Just because you're a true SysV doesn't mean you have a right for ego.  I have a Sys V on a Commodore Amiga.  8)
[17:03] <carbon_monoxide> but some articles on the internet is saying that "aptitude" and "apt-get" is making no different on installing and removing dependency packages
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> aptitude rembers things and makes removing packages easier - I hear...
[17:03] <timri> Downix: get of my lawn!
[17:03] <Downix> hehe
[17:03] <Jucato> carbon_monoxide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[17:03] <carbon_monoxide> starting from Edgy
[17:03] <timri> Dr_Willis: Yep, but dont press - on the installed section :)
[17:03] <Downix> Commodore had the first SysV OS, never forget.  AMIX, running on the Amiga 3000.  8)
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> I used Minix on my A500
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:04] <Downix> Random Trivia Man strikes again
[17:04] <timri> carbon_monoxide: afaik apt-get does not have a ui a la aptitude, nor a dep resolver
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> aptitudes 'ui' is a little... odd :)
[17:05] <Downix> but in any case, Indiana does look sweet.  I have it on the other HD for this machine here.
[17:05] <|dthacker|> hehe, that's an understatement.
[17:05] <timri> Downix: Trie to get the running on a vic20 and we'll talk
[17:05]  * Dr_Willis lives in Indiana :)
[17:05] <carbon_monoxide> Dr_Willis: this article is demonstrating 6.06 and earlier releases
[17:08] <Downix> timri: didn't someone do that once?
[17:08] <timri> Konqueror does not show the +/- signs next to folders when browsing samba shares mounted with fusesmb of smbnetfs, WHY?
[17:08] <Downix> Hmm
[17:08] <timri> Downix: Not that I know of, and it would be tough, I imagine
[17:08] <Downix> Something I've always wondered, could I use a non-OpenFirmware card in this machine...
[17:08] <Cobalt> Hi want to know if there is a way to listen to Yahoo radio stations from gutsy ?
[17:09] <timri> Cobalt: what site is that?
[17:10] <Cobalt> timri: music tab from yahoo.com
[17:11] <purpleposeidon> !virtualbox
[17:11] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[17:11] <timri> Cobalt: have a url? yahoo doesnt like my konqueror
[17:11] <timri> timri: and I am loath to install ff
[17:11] <Rebelyouth> !amarok
[17:11] <Cobalt> http://music.yahoo.com/launchcast/stations/default.asp
[17:11] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[17:11] <timri> sp?
[17:12] <Rebelyouth> old descrip
[17:13] <|dthacker|> how are factoids updated?
[17:13] <RLoggia> anyone know how to get frostwire?
[17:13] <carbon_monoxide> Finally, ALSA 1.0.15 is released.
[17:13] <llutz> RLoggia: sudo aptitude install frostwire
[17:14] <Jucato> !amarok | Rebelyouth
[17:14] <ubotu> Rebelyouth: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[17:15] <Rebelyouth> Jucato: why ubotu give me an old desc?
[17:15] <Jucato> I Just updated it right now
[17:15] <Rebelyouth> :)
[17:15] <Rebelyouth> ^_^
[17:15] <|dthacker|> How are factoids update = Jucato
[17:15] <Jucato> bot editors update them
[17:15] <Downix> Anyways, yay, have a SPARC I can develop with
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> lets see
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> !kde
[17:16] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> good
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> !kde4
[17:16] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> ahhh
[17:16] <Rebelyouth> is beta 4 now
[17:16] <Downix> this box still impresses me.  Missing DMA on the hard drive it still blows away my sons Pentium 3, despite surrendering half of the Mhz of the P3
[17:17] <Jucato> Rebelyouth: Kubuntu doesn't have beta4 packages yet. so that's still true
[17:17] <Rebelyouth> oh yeah  is for debiana n opensuse
[17:17] <Rebelyouth> you right
[17:17] <eljefe_> eeh, the Launchpad bug reporter is broken
[17:17] <|dthacker|> no bugs for you!
[17:17] <timri> Cobalt: yahoo radio doesnt work for me either
[17:18] <eljefe_> OOPS-672D998 is my error or something, but i have to be a subscribver to a mailing list to let anyone know  :(*
[17:18] <KalEl> eljefe_, you mean the bug reporting system itself is broken??
[17:18] <FisherPrice> !kwin
[17:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:18] <Rebelyouth> how i can share the XV on various player open?
[17:19] <eljefe_> yes the bug reporter itself isn't working, KalEl
[17:19] <sea4ever> I have a windows floppy, how can I get the stuff on it?
[17:19] <KalEl> great gods of linux! how do we report bugs now?!
[17:19] <llutz> seause mtools /mcopy, mdir/
[17:19] <Rebelyouth> sea4ever: yes
[17:19] <eljefe_> exactly
[17:19] <FisherPrice> yay
[17:19] <FisherPrice> :p
[17:19] <eljefe_> sea4ever: put it in the drive?
[17:19] <Jucato> eljefe_: #ubuntu-bugs please.
[17:20] <sea4ever> It's taking like 20 minutes so far to mount
[17:20] <Jucato> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ loads fine though
[17:20] <Jucato> !floppy
[17:20] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[17:20] <llutz> sea4ever: use mtools /mcopy, mdir/
[17:20] <OuZo> whats the deal with dolphin? what was wrong with the old window manager?
[17:20] <eljefe_> Jucato: will do
[17:21] <llutz> OuZo: was not simple enough for some gnome-freaks :)
[17:21] <timri> OuZo: filemanager
[17:21] <eljefe_> yeah it loads, but once I give a summary and click Continue, it errors out
[17:21] <FisherPrice> is the user in the floppy or disk group?
[17:21] <Jucato> !d3lphin | OuZo
[17:21] <ubotu> OuZo: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[17:21] <timri> OuZo: I use konqueror with konqsidebartng it (pardonnez moi le mot) totally rocks
[17:22] <FisherPrice> i have a question about kwin --replace... it doesn't work :(
[17:22] <Jucato> llutz: fwiw, the original dolphin, and the decision to switch to (the real) dolphin in KDE 4 was driven by KDE users' feedback and requests. so to say that it's because of gnome-freaks is totally unfair and insulting for those KDE users
[17:23] <llutz> Jucato: ok, sry
[17:23] <timri> Jucato: what is the insulting part "gnome" or "freaks" ? :)
[17:23] <Jucato> the "gnome" of course :)
[17:23] <OuZo> thanks guys, dolphin sux
[17:24] <Jucato> OuZo: d3lphin sucks. dolphin doesn't
[17:24] <Jucato> (or at least not as much)
[17:24] <OuZo> timri: what is konqsidebartng?
[17:25] <Jucato> KONQueror SIDEBAR The Next Generation
[17:25] <timri> OuZo: it is the part where traditionally the network shortcuts were stored, however you can use it to make shortcuts to anything (local folders etc)
[17:25] <OuZo> is there a screen shot anywere?
[17:25] <Jucato> actually you can use the metabar for that
[17:25] <timri> OuZo: I could upload one, but dont know where.
[17:25] <Jucato> timri: imageshack.us
[17:26] <Jucato> timri: you might be confusing it with the Metabar though
[17:26] <BluesKaj> dolphin is a PITA
[17:26] <Jucato> there is not sidebar applet named "konqsidebartng"... that is part of Konqueror
[17:26] <timri> Jucato: nope, I edit the stuff manually, it is in knqsidebartng/virtual_folders iirc
[17:27] <Jucato> yes
[17:27] <Jucato> timri: what I meant is that konqsidebartng is not a separate app. it's a built-in part of Konqueror
[17:28] <Jucato> you can also do it all in the GUI...
[17:28] <Jucato> right-click on the sidebar -> Add new ->
[17:28] <eljefe_> anyone have any luck with k9copy in 7.10?  i get constant crashes when i try to use it. I had upgraded my FFMPEG but thought that was the culprit, so I reverted back to the official package, but I still have the same issue.
[17:28] <timri> Jucato: hence the "sidebar" part in its name :)
 OuZo: I use konqueror with konqsidebartng it (pardonnez moi le mot) totally rocks <--- you make it sound like it's a separate app that needs to be installed and enabled into Konqueror :)
[17:29] <livingdaylight> i've opened k3b but its not detecting the fact that there is a blank cd in drive
[17:29] <OuZo> i cant understand why the konsole does not have color :< which file do i edit to get color in konsole?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, try launching it from the konsole ...check the output errors
[17:30] <livingdaylight> why not make kubuntu a little more like pclos for eg, with konqueror as dedicated file manager and firefox as default web browser.. much more clean and tidy
[17:30] <eljefe_> ~/.bashrc for colour; you have to comment out (add a #) like 5 lines, and uncomment (remove the #) another set of lines.  Its documented in there, if you read it you'll see.
[17:30] <|dthacker|> ok, here goes with the alternat install CD.  Wish me luck.
[17:30] <livingdaylight> i can't seem to install an iso here on k3b
[17:31] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: install an ISO on k3b??
[17:31] <Jucato> livingdaylight: 1. Kubuntu doesn't want to be like PCLOS. 2. The head devs want Konqueror to be the default, to promote Konqueror. 3. Disk space limit (OO.o already takes up a lot)
[17:31] <timri> OuZo: http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konqsidebartngir0.png
[17:31] <|dthacker|> I have done 20 installs since Gutsy dropped and this is the first one I had problems with....
[17:31] <flick> when can i see the even faster and even more better looking kde4 update in my kubuntu?
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> hey everyone!
[17:31] <FisherPrice> does anyone care to help me with my kwin --replace issue?
[17:31]  * |dthacker| glares at his hardware
[17:32] <Cobalt> timri: thanks for trying I left for a moment to fix myself some lunch
[17:32] <Jucato> FisherPrice: what's the problem?
[17:32] <FisherPrice> ty Jucato
[17:32] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, did you install k9copy with a pkg manager or the cli ?
[17:32] <timri> FisherPrice: Care, yes. Able, no :(
[17:32] <Jucato> (not that I can help 100%)
[17:32] <timri> Cobalt: ah, ok
[17:32] <sup3rw0p> Hi, I'm trying to install a theme and I run into this problem. when I run make I get this error at the end. Nothing to be done for `all-am'
[17:32] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: adept
[17:32] <Jucato> sup3rw0p: what theme are you trying to install?
[17:32] <eljefe_> actually with the CLI
[17:32] <sup3rw0p> domino
[17:32] <FisherPrice> juc I've just tried compiz-fusion and want to replace kwin.. but it crashes X and get compiz back
[17:33] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: with the CLI, I had a list of packages and installed it with "sudo apt-get install < packages.txt"
[17:33] <livingdaylight> Jucato:not about being like pclos exactly, but just an example where they strike a balance to give a clean overall look... Keeping Konqueror as default file manager still showcases Konqueror... but Konqueror overwhelm i'm not sure appeals to anyone in the 21 Century for desktop market... imho... but devs know best
[17:33] <Jucato> sup3rw0p: I believe there's a .deb Domino package for Kubuntu. use that instead
[17:33] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: yes an iso in k3b
[17:33] <Jucato> FisherPrice: and "kwin --replace" doesn't work?
[17:33] <FisherPrice> Jucato: I duno if it's a compiz issue or a kwin issue
[17:34] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: but you don't install ISOs with k3b; you don'ty install ISOs really at all, you burn ISOs and then install from the CD...
[17:34] <FisherPrice> Jucato: no, it just crashes X
[17:34] <Jucato> kwin almost never crashes. I bet it's a compiz issue
[17:34] <flick> hmm it seems to work for me
[17:34] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: yes, of course...
[17:34] <Jucato> FisherPrice: might want to ask in #compiz-fusion
[17:34] <FisherPrice> Jucato: ty, i didn't know the irc addy
[17:34] <flick> by the way thanks i did not know i could run compiz on kubuntu also
[17:34] <OuZo> timri: thanks, thats what my gentoo looked like
[17:34] <eljefe_> ok livingdaylight so you want to burn an ISO?  what happens when you right-click the ISO and select "Burn CD with K3b" ?
[17:34] <Jucato> !compiz | flick
[17:34] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: cant burn kubuntu iso... i think  my current kubuntu cd is faulty
[17:34] <ubotu> flick: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:35] <FisherPrice> flick: ya u can... but i think it's got problem
[17:35] <BluesKaj> I know it shouldn't make any diff whetrher you use adept apt or synaptic ., the repos are all the same , but I wonder about the install process in adept , sometimes
[17:35] <FisherPrice> flick: just make sure that u have your system backed up
[17:35] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Adept uses apt
[17:35] <timri> OuZo: I always have my windows maximized, no border, no menu, overlapping kicker
[17:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:35] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: so you think i should reinstall with Adept?  or you think Adept is worse?
[17:35] <flick> FisherPrice, ahh... i've seen ur problem, but i just did kwin --replace (before posting the previous comment) and it seems to work fine
[17:35] <BluesKaj> I'm aware of that
[17:35]  * |dthacker| mumbles phrases not appropriate for kubuntu, becuase his install hung disk detection.
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> FisherPrice: do you have desktop icons turned off?
[17:35] <Werenerd> hey all, has anyone else had problems with USB keyboards and (K)Ubuntu since updating to 7.10? My keyboard keeps cutting in and out
[17:36] <flick> FisherPrice, i installed compiz-kde and emerald too btw
[17:36] <timri> OuZo: that way, I can bring up the taskbar by yanking my mouse to the leftbottom corner of the screen
[17:36] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: it check md5sum but it still says cd rom is empty
[17:36] <FisherPrice> nosrednaekim: no, i have desktop icons
[17:36] <FisherPrice> flick: yah i have them too
[17:36] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: can you try a different CD?
[17:36] <flick> sorry i did compiz --replace
[17:36] <FisherPrice> flick: lol
[17:36] <|dthacker|> how long should text install take to detect a disk?
[17:37] <flick> well... let me try kwin --replace
[17:37] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, the cli /apt & aptitude seems to do better with some video apps
[17:37] <|dthacker|> good grief, it can't find it.
[17:37] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: the cd is fine, when i first put it in it was detected but i chose ignoer because it only offered to open k3b for data or audio and since iwanted to burn iso(image) i ckicked ignore
[17:37] <eljefe_> well, i used the CLI apt-get so i guess I should be 'safe'
[17:37] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:37] <eljefe_> hrmmm
[17:37] <eljefe_> i filed a bug report but no action yet, its been a few days
[17:38] <flick> yup
[17:38] <flick> it works
[17:38] <FisherPrice> :(
[17:38] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, k9copy was clunky on feisty , but i find it works better on gutsy
[17:38] <eljefe_> ok so livingdaylight, try to remove the CD and close k3b; then put the CD in and select Audio or whatever, and then try to do it in k3b with the menu
[17:38] <FisherPrice> i'll wander over to the compiz chanel
[17:38] <donsdw> I have a partition, ext3, that does not show any directories when I ls.  Is it possible they are still there, but I did something wrong?
[17:38] <Downix> ok, this is odd
[17:38] <delious> hi what is the difference between cd and dvd images of kubuntu?
[17:39] <eljefe_> donsdw: is it possible that the partition didn't mount into the dir?
[17:39] <Downix> I run a configure script and it says that the c compiler cannot create executeables
[17:39] <|dthacker|> ok, both live cd and alternate cd fail to detect hd.  Hd is working on another distro.  What should I try next?
[17:39] <Downix> ????
[17:39] <flick> donsdw, what does ls -a show
[17:39] <Downix> |dthacker|: Does it see the HD controller?
[17:39] <timri> Downix: installed build-essentials ?
[17:39] <Werenerd> Does anyone know a good place to get support on keyboard issues maybe?
[17:39] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: did that too... again go through the process as it checks sum but it still says: 'please insert an empty cdblah blah'
[17:39] <rickympl> does kcron use a config file or does it edit the crontab directly?
[17:39] <|dthacker|> Downix: how can I tell?
[17:40] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: ok so k9copy crashed again; the CLI is filled with VOBU: Read Error!!!  (VOBU : 1313496 Read Error !!!!  ==>  1313940)
[17:40] <Downix> timri: Doh!  Knew I forgot something
[17:40] <delious> i need help with choosing the right iso-file
[17:40] <Downix> |dthacker|: Is your HD on the same controller as your CD-ROM?
[17:40] <Q-collective> wow, k9copy looks so much better than dvd::rip
[17:40] <nosrednaekim> rickympl: if it did have a config file, it would be in ~/.kde/share
[17:40] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: no idea then, that is odd.  Just for giggles, have you tried a different CD?  Are you using a DVD when it needs a CD?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, does k3b read the dvd?
[17:41] <donsdw> eljefe_, flick: ls -a shows many hidden directories and Desktop.
[17:41] <|dthacker|> Downix: unknown, will have to reboot to find out.
[17:41] <anton__>  hi ive update my feisty to gutsy now the schortcut Fn+F10/F11 for Display Brightness doesnt work. but gutsy must recognize it native on my lenovo n100
[17:41] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: yeah K3b can see it
[17:41] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: i wish ... but alas no...
[17:42] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: thx anyways..
[17:42] <delious> hi what is the difference between cd and dvd images of kubuntu?
[17:42] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: there's something wrong with this install hence why i'm trying to burn a new kubuntu to cd
[17:42] <Downix> |dthacker|: Is it IDE, ATA, SATA, RAID or SCSI?
[17:42] <Downix> |dthacker|: or SAS, almost forgot that one
[17:42] <flick> donsdw, if it is mounted on the directory you do ls -l, then that's what u got in the ext3. to see if it is mounted, type cat /etc/mtab
[17:42] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: a reboot perhaps? :( i know, its a Windows-type fix, but it worked for an issue I had last night, so its worth a shot i guess...
[17:43] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, uninstall k9copy , reboot, sudo apt-get update and reinstall it
[17:43] <eljefe_> eh..  ok
[17:43] <Downix> timri:  it cannot find any package or instructions for that.
[17:43] <livingdaylight> eljefe_: i suppose, sheesh... i hoped kubuntu would be more stable than that though
[17:43] <BluesKaj> use the cli , eljefe_
[17:43] <rickympl> nosrednaekim:> ok thx, found a config file but its only pertinent to general options like window size, what i'm looking for is the tasks itself, maybe it doesnt save that info in another file other than the cron file
[17:43] <eljefe_> livingdaylight: agreed
[17:44] <donsdw> flick: I was afraid of that.  It's mounted, but all directories are gone.
[17:44] <flick> livingdaylight, eljefe_: agreed, waiting eagerly for KDE 4
[17:44] <Zvezdichko> hello,
[17:44] <timri> Downix: ??
[17:44] <angelo> non so come funziona quest'affare. qualcuno mi legge ?
[17:44] <donsdw> flick: At least they are not showing up.
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> rickympl: should be in share/apps
[17:44] <Zvezdichko> after many sys upgrades a lot of kernels were installed
[17:44] <eljefe_> flick: also waiting but its not going to bring stability improvements, especially for kde 4.0...
[17:44] <OuZo> eljefe_: pls can u pm me with your color part of .bashrc - mine is empty
[17:44] <Zvezdichko> how to remove unneeded kernels?
[17:44] <livingdaylight> flick: kde 4.1 maybe... everyone says kd34 is not gonna be all that
[17:44] <flick> donsdw, how could that be, did you do an rm * .*?
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> OuZo: certainly... just a moment
[17:45] <eljefe_> OuZo: that means it is using the system .bashrc but i'll get you my onw, one moment
[17:45] <timri> Downix: you mean like aptitude install build-essential ?
[17:46] <donsdw> flick: I am capable of doing that.  :(
[17:46] <angelo> ma se volessi parlare con qualcuno, come dovrei fare ?
[17:46] <flick> livingdaylight, eljefe_: yeah, i had a few problems, but i have fixed some of them and sent the patch in the KDE4 trunk, so hopefully they will be comitted in that release
[17:46] <timri> !it
[17:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:47] <flick> donsdw, if u or somebody inadvertantly deleted it from the GUI, it should be there in the Trash
[17:48] <Downix> timri: right
[17:48] <eljefe_> OuZo: http://pastebin.ca/759973  that is the default .bashrc, the only change being to make bash in colour.  save it in your home as .bashrc
[17:48] <flick> livingdaylight, eljefe_: also i know of several developers who are holding the fixes for KDE4!
[17:48] <timri> Downix: I take it, it is working now?
[17:48] <donsdw> flick: I can't blame anyone else.  I think I looked in Trash.  /tmp/Trash?  But that is at leat a ray of hope.  Thanks!
[17:48] <timri> superfluous comma guy strikes, again
[17:48] <rickympl> nosrednaekim:> no luck, i did a fresh install of kubuntu backing  up my /home, thinking that kcron would have such a file, but it seems it doenst, thx for your help
[17:49] <Downix> timri:  trying it again incase I misspelled it
[17:49] <donsdw> flick: Oh wait, no /tmp either. :(
[17:49] <timri> Downix: I added an s initially
[17:49] <OuZo> eljefe_: um that paste doesnt load for me, it the url correct?
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> rickympl: ah... kron probably does save to the crontab
[17:50] <Downix> that did it
[17:50] <Downix> 8)
[17:50] <eljefe_> yeah... pastebin kinda stinks some times tho
[17:50] <|dthacker|> Downix: Disk Drive is /dev/hda, how can I find the device the CDROM is attached at?
[17:50] <eljefe_> where can I get dvddecss, i wonder if that is the issue for k9copy
[17:50] <rickympl> nosrednaekim:> right, next time ill know better
[17:50] <rickympl> thanks
[17:50] <flick> donsdw, no /tmp ?!
[17:51] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, libdvdcss2 ?
[17:51] <samuk1> aki eh br?
[17:51] <Downix> |dthacker|: should be /dev/sd or dev/cd
[17:51] <flick> donsdw, i am really sorry... but if you are sure that the files have been deleted you can try the "unrm" command
[17:51] <donsdw> flick: Not is this partition.  I still have my Kubuntu partition.
[17:51] <nosrednaekim> NP
[17:51] <eljefe_> OuZo: try again?  it loaded for me, but not always...
[17:51] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: yeah
[17:51] <flick> donsdw, it can be installed as "sudo apt-get install tct"
[17:51] <OuZo> eljefe_: no its just blank
[17:52] <samuk1> helppppppppppp
[17:52] <Alarm> i tried to install kwin-style-metal4kde , but it wants some dependecies. kdelibs4 , i got kde 3.5.7 is that a problem ?
[17:52] <eljefe_> well its there man :(  lemme see if i can put it elsewhere
[17:52] <Cobalt> where to go to get the image files for this virtual machine ?
[17:52] <flick> but it can be hard to use.
[17:52] <eljefe_> samuk1: whaaaaat
[17:52] <timri> samuk1: F1
[17:52] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, it's in the restricted debs , check yer source.list to uncomment them
[17:52] <eljefe_> hmmm i though ti w as fully open for all of those...
[17:52] <Downix> |dthacker|: any sign?
[17:53] <donsdw> flick: I don't know what tct is, but I will look it up.  Thanks for your help.
[17:53] <samuk1> irc brasileiro?!?
[17:53] <OuZo> eljefe_: can you please paste it here? http://pastebin.div0.co.za/
[17:53] <timri> !br
[17:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:53] <flick> donsdw, tct is a package of forensic related utilities
[17:53] <|dthacker|> Downix: CD is on /dev/hdc, so a different controller, I think
[17:53] <samuk1> what is channel br?!?
[17:53] <timri> !br
[17:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:53] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, you still have to install it yourself
[17:54] <Downix> |dthacker|: no, same controller.  Likely the second channel on a PATA or IDE controller.
[17:54] <eljefe_> all of my repos are open3ed up and its not showing on the Adept list
[17:54] <donsdw> flick: Oh.  Install and then maybe unrm will help?
[17:54] <samuk1> !br
[17:54] <samuk1> thx
[17:54] <Downix> |dthacker|: ok, can you fdisk the HD?
[17:54] <flick> donsdw, maybe... just may be!
[17:54] <timri> samuk1: :)
[17:54] <|dthacker|> Downix: isn't it hda/b  hdac/d?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, did you update the repos ?
[17:55] <Cobalt> ubotu: where can I get image files for other OSs ?
[17:55] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: nope, default, and i did add medibuntu tho
[17:55] <eagles0513875> Cobalt: ubotu is a bot
[17:55] <eljefe_> OuZo: http://pastebin.div0.co.za/results/E2BG71752.html
[17:55] <donsdw> flick: Another ray of hope.  Thanks again!
[17:55] <Downix> |dthacker|: Most PATA have hda/b on the first channel and hdc/d on the second.  And most onboard controllers have 2 channels.
[17:55] <samuk1> ! not ready...=/
[17:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not ready...=/ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:55] <timri> Cobalt: distrowatch.com
[17:55] <samuk1> !br not ready...
[17:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about br not ready... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:56] <Cobalt> timri: thanks
[17:56] <eagles0513875> timri: u got to love it when people thingk the boto is real
[17:56] <timri> eagles0513875: hehe, happened to me as well
[17:56] <OuZo> thanks eljefe_
[17:56] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, do the source-o-matic thing to regenerate your sources.list
[17:56] <eljefe_> no prob
[17:56] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: "Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[17:56] <eagles0513875> timri: happened to me in the beginning too lol
[17:58] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[17:58] <|dthacker|> Downix: I've verified that CDROM and HD are on separate ide ports on MB
[17:58] <eljefe_> yeah i am there
[17:58] <eljefe_> nbot many options tho!
[18:00] <OuZo> whats the command line way to search the apt-get database, like emerge -S in gentoo? thanks
[18:00] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: same message, not available but referred to by another package
[18:00] <jpatrick> OuZo: apt-cache search
[18:00] <eljefe_> OuZo: sudo apt-cache searc _packagename_
[18:00] <OuZo> thanks
[18:00] <eljefe_> OuZo: sudo apt-cache search _packagename_
[18:00] <jpatrick> eljefe_: no need for sudo
[18:00] <eljefe_> oh?  cool.
[18:01] <Downix> **sees what else is missing to get AROS to build
[18:02] <samuk1> algum br aki... no outro ninguem ajuda
[18:02] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, you have to add some of the nonstd repos to get the libdvdcss2 app
[18:03] <samuk1> i need permison to acess hda5... only root can...
[18:03] <timri> Downix:  you mean like http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/developers/compiling.php#getting-the-needed-packages
[18:03] <carbon_monoxide> I wait for ALSA driver 1.0.15 for long, but its Ubuntu package doesn't come out
[18:03] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: i thought so also but not seeing them; all my repos are commented out.
[18:03] <eljefe_> rathe, are NOT commented out
[18:04] <eljefe_> carbon_monoxide: yeah, i feel like a lot of apps weren't updated.  Create a bur report/wish.
[18:05] <eljefe_> carbon_monoxide: thats about the best we can do i think, or compile it yourself
[18:05] <eljefe_> :(]
[18:05] <carbon_monoxide> eljefe_: compiling it does no good  :(
[18:07] <carbon_monoxide> eljefe_: so you have to compile the next release yourself if you compile the current one
[18:08] <eljefe_> carbon_monoxide: correct.  and you get constant bugging about reverting back to the official one, so each update forces you to unselect your manually-compiled apps... its  a pain, agreed.
[18:08] <carbon_monoxide> eljefe_: isn't that the charm of Debian and Ubuntu as "aptitude install" can do the whole works?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, I'm using the 64 bit repos , but i also have 32bit apps enabled , maybe these might conatian the file: http://www.pastebin.ca/759998
[18:09] <eljefe_> with Debian, for sure.  *buntu isn';t so handy IMHO.  but i don't really know anything about aptitude itself, only apt-get.  i hear aptitude is better somehow tho
[18:09] <Goliath23> does kubuntu do anything to the default kdm config? (i try to add a session by copying /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop to kde4.desktop and change some path's, but the new session doesn't appear in kdm)
[18:09] <flick> how can i change the size of the subtitles in Kaffeine player?
[18:10] <jpatrick> Goliath23: have you restarted kdm?
[18:10] <jpatrick> should be fine (works here)
[18:10] <BluesKaj> aptitude uninstalls take out unrequired dependencies
[18:10] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: same error, referred but not found :(
[18:10] <eljefe_> allright all, thanks for the help but i have to go now, see yas later!
[18:10] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: you can do that with apt-get autoremove
[18:11] <asktoby> Well, I just survived my dist-upgrade (just).
[18:11] <BluesKaj> did you apt-get update after adding the repos
[18:11] <newguyss> hi, how do I get more fonts for my machine
[18:11] <eljefe_> search for 'font' in Adept and install them
[18:12] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, autoremove takes out apps that you need in my experience , especially xorg editsd
[18:12] <eljefe_> ok see yas
[18:12] <FisherPrice> flick: i've sorted my problem out with compiz... i had to completely unintall it :(
[18:12] <Goliath23> jpatrick: yes, of course
[18:12] <Downix> ya know, this x86-centric nature of program-makers really ticks me off
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> FisherPrice: and reinstall?
[18:12] <timri> Downix: explain
[18:12] <BluesKaj> eljefe_, the app should be there
[18:13] <FisherPrice> well i'm dling the latest version, gunna try to compile it
[18:13] <Downix> timri:  Well, Flash was designed to be able to be run from any system... but then Adobe cans the non-x86/PPC Linux ports....
[18:13] <flick> FisherPrice, i have completely uninstalled it too - seems it doesn't flash your taskbar for programs like Konversation or Kopete!
[18:14] <timri> Downix: ah, ok
[18:14] <eljefe_> BluesKaj: Agreed but it isn't, today at least...  now that i think about it, my "sudo apt-get install <packages.txt" command made me remove it also, it wasn't there then either (right after the install of a fresh Gutsy,. a few weeks ago)
[18:14] <FisherPrice> flick: nosrednaekim i think i might try a different ui with it... a friend has got it up and running nice in something else.. can't remember what
[18:14] <harmental> why did kubntu sticked to the gimp release candidate version? will it be updated in the repos any time soon?
[18:15] <flick> FisherPrice, and no body seems to be able to point a direction on which direction i should look, atleast superficially there's no way to fix it - and i am too tired to look into compiz-fusion code today
[18:15] <flick> FisherPrice, for me it works with Gnome properly though
[18:15] <timri> harmental: security updates only, I think
[18:15] <flick> too bad Gnome belongs to my past.
[18:15] <eljefe_> i have a feeling that Compiz is made to be much more Gnome compatible
[18:15] <flick> eljefe_, i concur
[18:15]  * Rebelyouth 
[18:16] <harmental> timri: what do you mean? we should stick to a RC??
[18:16] <eljefe_> which toi me means its unusable; plus KWin has too many benefits for me
[18:16] <FisherPrice> flick: lol yah i might use it once in a while... it's more pretty than functional atm
[18:16] <timri> harmental: or wait 6 months for 8.04 to come out
[18:16] <FisherPrice> flick: would be nice to show my friends and ask "Does WinXP or Vista do this?"
[18:17] <flick> FisherPrice, i can understand and empathasize!
[18:17] <harmental> timri: its weird....why would they freeze a package that is rc?
[18:17] <timri> harmental: the better question would be: why would they include it?
[18:17] <FisherPrice> flick: it's good though I do like the way Linux had advanced. :D
[18:18] <harmental> because 2.4 has a FINAL version...
[18:19] <flick> flick, the word is empathize not empathasize you moron!
[18:19] <flick> flick, oh sorry
[18:19] <Downix> FisherPrice: I've used Linux since '95 or so
[18:19] <Downix> ok, need to find pngtopnm for Ubuntu now
[18:19] <|dthacker|> Downix: I have no way to change BIOS settings for the hard drive, now grasping at straws and trying an Ubuntu disk.
[18:19] <FisherPrice> Downix: '95, hrm yah i think i was about that time too
[18:20] <FisherPrice> Downix: though only in ernest from about 2002
[18:20] <Downix> |dthacker|: Which northbridge do you run?
[18:21] <Downix> FisherPrice: Slackware 3.0!
[18:21] <|dthacker|> Downix: I have no idea.  How can I tell?
[18:21] <timri> Downix: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <podliak> How can I set auto net connection (adsl) in a moment when I login ?
[18:21] <Downix> timri:  just seeing which module has it included
[18:22] <timri> Downix: you can find that out on packages.ubuntu.com
[18:22] <FisherPrice> Downix: Caldera Linux was first, I think RH 6.2
[18:22] <Downix> |dthacker|: That is really something you should have known from the day you boughty it.  Check your BIOS is my guess
[18:22] <FisherPrice> followed quick after
[18:22] <timri> Downix: "search the contents of packages"
[18:22] <harmental> what happens if i change my repos to hardy???
[18:23] <eljefe_> Downix: which brand heater coil does your toaster use?  really you don't know?  you should have known that since the day you bought it.  lol ;)
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> |dthacker|: you can ussually tell with a lspci
[18:24] <newguyss> guys I really got tired, I need to install font called bank gothic and I dont know how or what to do, help please
[18:24]  * flick deep dives into compiz code
[18:25] <timri> newguyss: in control center "system administration" then "font installer"
[18:26] <newguyss> timri: where is system administration?
[18:27] <timri> newguyss: Alt+F2 then kcontrol
[18:27] <supert0ne1> why kcontrol is not on the menu is just strange
[18:28] <podliak> Can I set auto connection on net at startup ?
[18:28] <samuk1> what copies and paste in shell?!?
[18:28] <timri> supert0ne1: Because kubuntu thinks the new settings manager is easier :(
[18:29] <newguyss> timri: thanks, do I have to go find the font on the net first?
[18:29] <timri> samuk1: I use the mouse
[18:29] <samuk1> how*
[18:29] <supert0ne1> meaning less useful in my opinion
[18:29] <samuk1> no... copies and paste folder
[18:29] <supert0ne1> all the good options are hidden and tier design is pretty efficient
[18:29] <timri> newguyss: Err, yeah, at fonts.com its 102 dollar
[18:30] <timri> supert0ne1: Yeah, I prefer kcontrol
[18:30] <ubuntu_> hello
[18:30] <timri> samuk1: select the text right click in the selection, and copy
[18:30] <|dthacker|> nosrednaekim: on the northbridge question, please see http://pastebin.com/m757dee98
[18:30] <timri> samuk1: to paste, use shift+insert
[18:31] <samuk1> no is text is folder
[18:31] <Downix> now, time to learn how to create a SPARC header so I can compile this app....
[18:32] <timri> samuk1:  ??? if you want to open a folder from the konsole, you could use "konqueror ." (dont forget the dot)
[18:32] <intExDK> I'm trying to burn an .img DVD image, but found out that k3b doesn't support that format. Anyone knows a way?
[18:32] <Downix> and am I the only guy here on a non-80x86 based CPU?
[18:33] <biovore> I have a alpha
[18:33] <biovore> and arm based computer..
[18:33] <|dthacker|> Downix: I play with Power5 all day at work, but not on Ubuntu
[18:33] <Downix> |dthacker|: Oh cool
[18:34] <timri> |dthacker|: drool
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> |dthacker|: I would guess that this is the relevant line
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
[18:34] <Downix> biovore: Alpha was nice, ARM's are fun.  I'm running a SPARC here, first 64-bit since my Alpha died.
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> might want to google that
[18:34] <timri> Downix: As soon as the OLPC comes to europe, I will have a non-x86 machine too
[18:35] <Downix> timri: OLPC is x86.
[18:35] <Downix> timri:  It uses a Geode, which is a renamed MediaGX CPU, the last of the Cyrix 6x86 CPU's.
[18:35] <jb44> hello
[18:36] <tekteen> hello
[18:36] <timri> Downix: oops, never knew that the Geodes were x86
[18:36] <Downix> timri:  My ex-fiance worked for NatSemi when they owned Cyrix.  She got to see the first Geode/MediaGX's come off the assembly line.
[18:37] <timri> Downix: My router is certainly non x86, does that count :)
[18:37] <Downix> I still can't believe I picked up a SPARC for $50.  8)
[18:37] <supert0ne1> dd-wrt?
[18:38] <timri> supert0ne1: nope
[18:38] <timri> Downix: Holy cow!
[18:38] <supert0ne1> i was skeptical of dd-wrt but after using it for a few months i couldn't live without it
[18:39] <tekteen> what is dd-wrt?
[18:40] <Alarm> i just downloaded some themes from kde-look , but the files are inside a gz, so i cant open them from the theme manager, how do i install those themes?
[18:40] <timri> supert0ne1: I have a dg834gv2, and it runs great as-is. (Texas Instruments AR7 proc)
[18:40] <timri> Alarm: and if you doubleclick in the filemanager, it opens Ark?
[18:41] <Downix> timri:  barebones Ultra 5's and 10's are cheap.  They lack integrated DMA controllers so they go for really cheap.
[18:41] <Alarm> yeap
[18:41] <Alarm> and i can see many folders in it
[18:41] <Alarm> like buttons arrows and stuff like that
[18:41] <timri> Downix: Shipping them to france kinda sucks tough>)
[18:42] <Downix> timri:  Buy em from Germany or France then.  France was Sun's #4 customer.
[18:42] <timri> Alarm: you could extract that gz file (it is like a zip)
[18:42] <Alarm> i know i can extract that, thats not the problem
[18:42] <Alarm> the point is i dont know how to set it up :)
[18:42] <timri> Downix: We use and re-use ad infinitum here, hence prices are somewhat less friendly
[18:43] <timri> Alarm:  And if you point the theme manager to the extracted files?
[18:43] <Alarm> doesnt work
[18:43] <Alarm> it cant locate any .theme file
[18:43] <timri> Alarm: ah, ok
[18:45] <Downix> timri:  Hmm, dangit.  I still hope the SPARC S1 ships soon tho.  Embeddable 64-bit multi-threaded SPARC core
[18:45] <timri> Downix: yeah, sun sells some great hardware (and software)
[18:46] <Downix> timri:  who mentioned Sun?  SPARC is a licenseable architecture, there are more makers than just Sun out there.
[18:46] <Downix> timri:  did you know that half of the CPU's in Sun boxes are made by Fuji?
[18:46] <timri> Downix: true, I was just drooling over the ultra 45 workstation, so...
[18:47] <timri> Downix: didnt know that, but it's not really a surprise
[18:47] <Downix> Timri:  I tinker with hardware designs.  Trying to make a more cost-friendly version.
[18:48] <timri> Downix: cool
[18:48] <Downix> timri:  http://www.opensparc.net if you want to look at the source of the T1.
[18:48] <timri> Downix: been there, done that :)
[18:49] <Downix> timri:  Basically my thought was to drop it to a single core paired with a DDR2 controller, FPU, and put it on a Hypertransport bus, so you can use commodity chipsets such as those from VIA or nVidia.
[18:49] <timri> timri: A bit rusty on the verilog, though
[18:49] <Downix> timri:  in theory
[18:49] <Downix> timri:  Same here, was always a VHDL man myself
[18:50]  * timri changes topic to: Hi, welcome to #kubuntu, feel free to drop by and discuss the merits ov verilog and VHDL
[18:50] <Downix> heh
[18:51] <timri> brb
[18:51] <kubuntunewbie> linux is sick on battery life for lappys.  I just ran my computer for almost 4 hours using wireless internet and browseing the web
[18:51] <kubuntunewbie> pretty sick. windows gives me about 2 hours
[18:51] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: is that good?
[18:52] <nosrednaekim> oh... ah... so sick=awesome
[18:52] <nosrednaekim> :D
[18:52] <kubuntunewbie> haha, yes
[18:52] <Downix> timri:  my thought was to get a basic design working first, then expand it to 2 cores + FPU + DSP functions.  That way you can make a more entry-level workstation that should perform similarly to an Athlon x2 without the legacy crap.  8)
[18:54] <foxhound31> hello the problem I have is that the MY Shared Folder on a fat32 partition isnt recognised properly so I cant change the permissions on it single word named folders work great
[18:54] <bassmac> I'm getting this error with adept saying the database is locked...how should i fix this?
[18:54] <timri> Downix: explain how "VIA or nVidia" is being "without legacy crap"
[18:54] <foxhound31> can change permissions on them no problem
[18:54] <timri> foxhound31: But it worked earlier for you with My Documents
[18:55] <nosrednaekim> foxhound31: fat doesn't support permissions
[18:55] <Downix> timri:  most of that legacy is in the northbridge, which is onboard the CPU in this case.  All you'd be getting from VIA/nVidia is the southern-half of the equasion, over HT.
[18:55] <lespea> bassmac: that means something else is using apt, are you installing/upgrading something in a different window / comand prompt?
[18:55] <bassmac> no...
[18:55] <bassmac> I just booted
[18:55] <Downix> timri:  while some legacy there, a lot less than before
[18:56] <timri> Downix: ok, true. You would need specs though
[18:56] <foxhound31> nosrednaekm yeah thats right
[18:56] <Downix> I would, but one step at a time.
[18:56] <foxhound31> ahh dont know what the problem is
[18:57] <foxhound31> bizarre
[18:57] <foxhound31> tlmrl yeah that was an ntfs
[18:57] <foxhound31> partition
[18:58] <foxhound31> amule keeps saying I need to change permissions on that folder
[18:58] <lespea> bassmac: in a comand prompt go 'ps -aux|grep apt'
[18:58] <bassmac> I did a dpkg --configure -a
[18:58] <anton__> hi is it possible to reconfigure my ubuntu automatic?
[18:58] <foxhound31> which is why I'm confused since fat32 doesnt have permissions
[18:58] <timri> foxhound31: Ah, and fat32 doesnt support that
[18:58] <bassmac> I had to do something from a previous install I guess
[18:59] <anton__> cause i updated my feisty to gutsy and now displaybrightness doesnt work, but it schould automatically do on my laptop
[18:59] <ubuntu_> Hello, how do I unmount partitions in KDE?
[18:59] <Downix> timri:  it's just an object lesson for me, and as it'll be gpl'd, maybe someone will use it
[19:00] <timri> Downix: great! Do you have a site so that us mere mortals can check on you progress ?
[19:00] <Downix> Nowhere to put one atm
[19:00] <Downix> had a spot I never used then let it lapse
[19:01] <foxhound31> plan b now that I can get linux to work the way I like I will migrate everything and change the partitions to linux ones that should solve all my problems
[19:01] <timri> foxhound31: yep
[19:01] <Downix> timri:  the irony as I work for a web company... 8)
[19:01] <timri> Downix: hehe
[19:02] <foxhound31> plus there is a util for windows that can recognise linux partitions should i ever need to do that
[19:02] <ubuntu_> How do I unmount partitions in KDE?
[19:02] <Downix> foxhound31: wouldn't recommend it.  Windows likes corrupting the filesystems
[19:03] <timri> Downix: ?? the ext2 ifs ??
[19:03] <livingdaylight> what is it called kcontrol? i can't find it in kbfx menu or even when i do alt+space
[19:03] <kubuntunewbie> anyone remember the name of the program that monitors your internet usage and docks in the "system tray" of KDE?
[19:03] <foxhound31> Downix thanks for that I'll only use it for emergency
[19:03] <kubuntunewbie> i think it was called something like knet.....
[19:03] <timri> livingdaylight: Alt+F2 kcontrol
[19:03] <Downix> timri:  tried ext2 for Win and it corrupted my gentoo install
[19:04] <timri> livingdaylight: You could also add it to your kmenu manually (right click, edit menu, insert item, kcontrol)
[19:04] <livingdaylight> timri: wonder why when i did at+space it didn't come up??
[19:04] <foxhound31> anyway great help channel
[19:04] <livingdaylight> timri: thx
[19:04] <timri> Downix: weird, never heard of that before
[19:04] <TheWozA> hey guys im using a ATI radeon card and im wondering what video drivers i should use
[19:04] <foxhound31> think kubuntu in this version really is consumer linux i havent had to touch the command line much at all
[19:05] <Downix> timri:  now, Windows corrupted it's own filesystem a month later, so it's as likely to be windows fault as anything, but it made me gunshy
[19:05] <foxhound31> brilliant effort
[19:05] <spingwerd> are you going to run compiz?
[19:05] <Downix> TheWozA: Which Radeon?
[19:05] <foxhound31> see you
[19:05] <kubuntunewbie> foxhound31: i agree, i recently made the switch and kept windows shitsa on my computer.... I have not touched winblows once since i put kubuntu on.
[19:05] <timri> Downix: hw problem?
[19:05] <spingwerd> Q. Since I uped to gutsey my system is about 25% slower where do I look?
[19:06] <kubuntunewbie> spingwerd: are u using a lappy?
[19:06] <spingwerd> nope
[19:06] <kubuntunewbie> spingwerd: no clue then. sorry
[19:07] <timri> spingwerd: strigid indexing?
[19:07] <spingwerd> ah could be
[19:07] <spingwerd> timri: hwo do I check
[19:07] <TheWozA> 9800 pro
[19:08] <spingwerd> daemon is not running
[19:08] <timri> Alt+F2 konsole
[19:08] <timri> spingwerd: then: top
[19:08] <Downix> TheWozA: The proprietory ATI drivers.
[19:09] <Downix> timri:  windows update was run w/o authority (the stealth update) and lost power in the middle.  Caused a serious problem as it killed part of the HAL for HD controll
[19:09] <spingwerd> timri: not on the top list
[19:09] <timri> spingwerd: mmm, I have no idea what it could be then
[19:09] <spingwerd> dopez: but they wont work with any beryl stuff corredc?
[19:10] <ArPharazon> Hi, how do I unmount partitions?
[19:10] <timri> Downix: I have still one Xp laptop here, (because I cant get suspend/resume right) it is a maintenance nightmare
[19:10] <TheWozA> Downix i have these drivers but how do you run a .run file :S
[19:10] <sysnemo> hi.i have dapper drake and i want to upgrade my distro to feisty..what do i need to do?
[19:10] <christiane> I try to make my HP LaserJet M1005 MFP SCAN with Kooka - doesn't work! (printing with the same device works) Any ideas?
[19:11] <timri> sysnemo: fresh install
[19:11] <sysnemo> is there n command
[19:11] <sysnemo> ?
[19:11] <timri> sysnemo: dapper->feisty is not supported in one step
[19:11] <sysnemo> a ok
[19:11] <spingwerd> TheWozA: cant you open the repositorys and add that way
[19:11] <sysnemo> so can i install beryl on dapper?
[19:11] <TheWozA> ill try
[19:11] <timri> sysnemo: havent got a clue
[19:11] <Downix> timri:  I have one XP machine, and as soon as I can get my MMO to run w/o issue on Linux, bye-bye.
[19:11] <sysnemo> ok..thank u
[19:11] <spingwerd> sysnemo: dapper > feisty > gutsey
[19:12] <Downix> TheWozA: chmod +x (the file)
[19:12] <timri> spingwerd: In theory that works.... have seen some depressingly bad results though
[19:12] <kubuntunewbie> Downix: whats a MMO?
[19:13] <spingwerd> timri: worked for me but I wouldnt use the propierty cand do 3d
[19:13] <timri> kubuntunewbie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMO
[19:14] <spingwerd> do you still have to turn on DMA in gutsey?
[19:14] <kubuntunewbie> Downix: what game is it?  do you know if its possible to get everquest to work on linux?
[19:14] <christiane> How do I get a HP LaserJet M1005 MFP scan with Kooka? (printing with the same device works) Any ideas?
[19:15] <ArPharazon> Anyone? QtParted says my partition is busy but how do I stop it?
[19:15] <timri> spingwerd: sudo hdparm -i /dev/hdc  tells me it is turned on by default
[19:16] <drarem> i have the nvidia 6800gt, is there something better that is in price range of $100 and is agp?
[19:16] <timri> ArPharazon: sudo umount (partition)
[19:16] <NickPresta> drarem, the 7600 GT should be about that price, and is much better...
[19:16] <ArPharazon> timri: Anyway to do it from the GUI?
[19:17] <timri> ArPharazon: I have no idea.
[19:17] <drarem> ok thanks
[19:17] <kubuntunewbie> can anyone recomend a PCI wireless card that will interact well with linux and work on a 500 mhz p3 compaq
[19:17] <ArPharazon> ...
[19:18] <spingwerd> is there a gui to mount disks?
[19:18] <timri> kubuntunewbie: PCI wireless is almost certainly 2.0 or up, does your compaq support those?
[19:18] <kubuntunewbie> timri: no clue, what do u mean 2.0 or up?
[19:18] <timri> kubuntunewbie: pci 2.0
[19:18] <timri> kubuntunewbie: older motherboards do not support it
[19:19] <kubuntunewbie> timri: ahh, good question, do you know how i would check? it was made in 1999 and is p3
[19:19] <spingwerd> kubuntunewbie: robably not
[19:19] <ArPharazon> spingwerd: There are twi `mount` options in Storage Media, but they both give me crazy errors.
[19:20] <ArPharazon> *two
[19:20] <kubuntunewbie> does that mean i am SOL when it comes to geting a PCI wireless card?
[19:20] <christiane> How do I make a HP LaserJet M1005 MFP scan (feisty)?
[19:20] <spingwerd> ArPharazon: what program
[19:20] <timri> kubuntunewbie: very likely
[19:20] <german> Anyone sync PDA, Avantgo with Kpilot?
[19:20] <kubuntunewbie> timri: so my only option would be USB? that would suck, i hate USB wireless devices.
[19:21] <ArPharazon> spingwerd: Dolphin, I suppose.
[19:21] <timri> kubuntunewbie: dunno, no experience with those
[19:22] <spingwerd> ArPharazon: other idsk isnt listed in storage media
[19:22] <timri> christiane: Perhaps: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1005
[19:23] <christiane> timri: thanx, I'll try
[19:23] <ArPharazon> spingwerd: What do you mean?
[19:23] <timri> christiane: Good luck (it's way out of my area of competence :( )
[19:23] <bufalo> Kpilot, dont have conduit to Avantgo, exist a lib, but not in Kubuntu or ubuntu repositories
[19:23] <spingwerd> ArPharazon:  the device /dev/sda1 isnt listed in storage media
[19:24] <bufalo> The PDA work fine with Kpilot and integration with Kontact, only te Avantgo conduit
[19:24] <timri> christiane: ohoh, according to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/unsupported.html it wont work... at all :(
[19:25] <ArPharazon> spingwerd: Well, it is for me. I have 3 disks listed there, which makes sense as I have three partitions. I'm running from the livecd, maybe it's that?
[19:25] <Mac40DO> Hi! The screensaver does not start, when I lock the screen. How can I change that behaviour?
[19:27] <NickPresta> Mac40DO, are you running Compiz-Fusion?
[19:27] <Mac40DO> NickPresta: No just Standard KDE
[19:27] <Mac40DO> Kubuntu Gutsy
[19:28] <lespea> Mac40DO: use xscreensaver :P
[19:28] <timri> christiane: Debian is working on it: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2007-June/019390.html
[19:28] <Mac40DO> lespea: does xscreensaver start, when I lock the screen?
[19:28] <bufalo> Anyone use PDA, Kpilot and Avantgo???
[19:28] <lespea> Mac40DO: sort of, you have to over-ride the lock command to use xscreensaver
[19:28] <lespea> Mac40DO: i'll find the guide quick...
[19:29] <Mac40DO> lespea :-)
[19:29] <|dthacker|> Downix: solved it. The drive needed to be master on the channel.
[19:29] <lespea> Mac40DO: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man1.html#10
[19:29] <Mac40DO> lespea: Thanks, I will try it!
[19:29] <lespea> Ace2016: except for the startup change 'Exec=xscreensaver' to 'Exec=xscreensaver -no-splash'
[19:30] <lespea> Mac40DO:  except for the startup change 'Exec=xscreensaver' to 'Exec=xscreensaver -no-splash'
[19:30] <lespea> Mac40DO: good luck :)
[19:30] <ArPharazon> spingwerd: So how do I unmount my partitions?
[19:30] <Mac40DO> lespea: yeah, thx
[19:30] <Ace2016> ???
[19:31] <lespea> Mac40DO: np, oh take the time to config xscreensaver... a lot of cool ones are not setup to run and there are a lot of stupid ones that are (run xscreensaver-demo to config)
[19:31] <lespea> Ace2016: miss tell, sorry
[19:31] <Ace2016> oh ok, whats that for anyway?
[19:32] <Mac40DO> lespea: thanx. I think that xscreensaver is better than than kde-screensaver. so I will be quite happy with xscreensaver
[19:33] <christiane> timri: thank you, I think I'll have to follow the thread...
[19:33] <bufalo> PDA, Kpilot. Avantgo?? anyone?
[19:33] <lespea> Ace2016: telling Mac40DO how to disable kscreensaver (sucks balls) ot xscreensaver
[19:33] <duane> to upgrade to gibbon from feisty you just have to do full upgrade in adept right? I dont get the upgrade option after I do that
[19:34] <|dthacker|> Is there any way to get to LVM from the graphical installer?
[19:34] <lespea> duane: did you change your sources list?
[19:34] <MidMark> duane: because you have to enable pre-released updated too
[19:34] <MidMark> adept is buggy and need to be updated
[19:34] <spingwerd> duane: did you change the check list like it said
[19:35] <MidMark> then will show you the update after you updates adept from -proposed
[19:35] <zarath> Hi, I've got kmail configured to go straight to the newest message when I open a folder, but it ignores that and always goes to the last selected message. Any ideas as to why this may be happening?
[19:35] <duane> I though gibbon was released now lol
[19:35] <lespea> duane: it is....
[19:36] <duane> ok then still save to upgrade too lol
[19:36] <bufalo> PDA, Kpilot, Avantgo? some experiences?
[19:36] <duane> prerelease stuff bugs just ring in my head lol
[19:36] <ingrid> what package do i need so k3b can make audio cd's from mp3's?
[19:38] <spingwerd> ingrid: restricted packages
[19:38] <duane> spingwerd: I thought the recommended way was to open armok it will download it for you
[19:39] <TimS> I cant add samba users. Everytime I do, and click OK, next time I come back, they are gone
[19:39] <ingrid> spingwerd: xine codecs?
[19:39] <spingwerd> duane: I sit by what I said
[19:39] <lespea> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:39] <duane> thats fine not saying it wont work
[19:39] <duane> just saying the way kubuntu has it documented is to use armok
[19:40] <lespea> also, http://www.medibuntu.org/
[19:40] <spingwerd> duane: ok then do that ...then you wil lbe back
[19:40] <ingrid> thanks guys.
[19:40] <duane> thanks MidMark I now have the option to upgrade version :)
[19:40] <MidMark> :)
[19:40] <ingrid> lespea: i only see ubuntu-restricted-extras in the repos. is that the one?
[19:41] <lespea> oh, i assumed you were using kde
[19:41] <TheWozA> everytime i type su in my terminal and type my password it says authentication failed why
[19:41] <spingwerd> TheWozA: sudo
[19:41] <lespea> ingrid: i guess so, you enabled all the extra repositories right
[19:41] <MidMark> duane: the funny thing that first adept release for Gutsy had the opposite problem -> once updated to Gutsy still offer to you upgrade :D but it's just fixes
[19:42] <ingrid> lespea: xubuntu with some kde and gnome apps. using k3b for burning
[19:42] <ingrid> lespea: they are all enabled
[19:42] <TheWozA> ahhh thx spingwerd
[19:42] <lespea> ingrid: oh, well i dunno which one will work for you... do an aptitude search restricted-extras
[19:43] <lespea> ingrid: if ubuntu is the only one then try it
[19:43] <lespea> ingrid: i highly recommend the medibuntu repo though -- w32codecs ftw
[19:43] <ingrid> lespea: i did. :) will try ubuntu-restricted-extras. thanks for the help.
[19:43] <lespea> ingrid: cool, let me know if it works
[19:44] <ingrid> will do
[19:48] <ardchoille> The KDE Media Manager isn't getting started when I reboot, but it is "checked" as "start with kde" in kcontrol. I was thinking I could put a shortcut to it in ~/.kde.Autostart but I don't know the app name.
[19:49] <ardchoille> How can I get the KDE Media Manager service to start on log in? Or, what do I need to put in Autostart?
[19:51] <ashmaus> how do I stop kubuntu from booting to x?
[19:51] <Carnage\> Remove the kdm initscript from the respective runlevel
[19:51] <fdoving> ardchoille: tick the 'use' box in systemsettings -> advanced [tab] -> service manager
[19:52] <fdoving> Carnage\: rename it from S* to K* is smarter, that way it survives upgrades of the kdm package.
[19:52] <dave_> i changed my  log in resolution yesterday and today my graphics settings say I either have orphaned control module or a old third party module lying around.
[19:52] <ardchoille> fdoving: It's already ticked
[19:52] <ashmaus> I made some bad changes to x and now, I get the progress bar, then blackness....
[19:52] <Carnage\> fdoving: Right you are
[19:52] <fdoving> ardchoille: then it should be loading, check
[19:53] <ardchoille> fdoving: But it isn't
[19:53] <atilla> no english
[19:53] <atilla> TURKİSH
[19:53] <ardchoille> That's why I asked
[19:53] <atilla> plss
[19:53] <dave_> and cant access my video and monitor settings now
[19:53] <atilla> no englsih
[19:54] <atilla> aziz
[19:54] <atilla> arkadaşlar odada Türk varmı ???
[19:54] <fdoving> ardchoille: you can check ~/.kde/share/config/kdedrc for the section '[Module-mediamanager]' and the key 'autoload=true'
[19:54] <newsense07> anyone here familiar with kfilereplace ?
[19:55] <atilla> ok
[19:55] <atilla> I'm a overclocker
[19:55] <atilla> do you know overclcok
[19:55] <atilla> ????
[19:56] <ardchoille> fdoving: It's in kderc as well
[19:57] <ardchoille> fdoving: All things point to it being loaded, but it doesn't get loaded
[19:57] <atilla> heeeeeeeeeeey
[19:57] <ardchoille> fdoving: However, thank you for the hint of kderc :)
[19:57] <atilla> please help me
[19:57] <ardchoille> !patience | atilla
[19:57] <ubotu> atilla: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:57] <fdoving> ardchoille: does kded start at all?
[19:57] <atilla> I say
[19:58] <atilla> how to overclcoking in ubuntu
[19:58] <atilla> vgs overclcoking
[19:58] <lespea> atilla: overclocking has nothing to do with the os you are using, you have to do it in bios
[19:58] <ardchoille> fdoving: ps aux | grep kded returns "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" so it's started
[19:58] <atilla> vhere is the gpu and ram clocks
[19:59] <dave_> isnt this getting off topic?
[20:00] <ardchoille> dave_:  what?
[20:00] <atilla> vgs overclcoking on os
[20:00] <atilla> vga*
[20:00] <dave_> the overclocking conversation
[20:00] <ardchoille> ah
[20:00]  * ardchoille thought he was getting ot again
[20:01] <atilla> any body dont know where is the gpu and ram clcoks
[20:01] <atilla> why use this os
[20:02] <atilla> every body dont know anythink
[20:02] <dave_> atilla, this is a kubuntu chat, the question you have has nothing to do with the operating system.
[20:02] <lespea> atilla: also hard to follow what you're trying to ask :(
[20:03] <atilla> dave: no
[20:03] <lespea> atilla: no? lol
[20:03] <dave_> no what?
[20:03] <atilla> please wait
[20:03] <dave_> for what?
[20:04] <atilla> ı use a turning programme
[20:04] <dave_> ???
[20:04] <newsense07> anyone know of an easy way i can add a number to the beginning of all filenames in a directory ?
[20:04] <dave_> i have a kubuntu prob, help?
[20:04] <fdoving> atilla: i suggest a google search for 'overclock ubuntu ati/nvidia'  or something like that.
[20:05] <fdoving> newsense07: can you give me an example?
[20:05] <lespea> atilla: lol
[20:05] <ardchoille> newsense07: use a for loop
[20:05] <atilla> dave: why use this os
[20:05] <dave_> ITS AWSOME!11!
[20:06] <lespea> newsense07: like this:: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0|xargs -0 -I{} mv {} 1{}
[20:06] <atilla> what
[20:06] <newsense07> fdoving: i have a few cds in mp3 format all starting with 1- songname.mp3 etc... and i want to add something to the beginning of all filenames
[20:06] <fdoving> atilla: the answer to why we use this os, is probably that we do other things than overclock vga cards and ram.
[20:06] <lespea> newsense07: an incrementing number or a constant one?
[20:06] <ScorpKing> atilla: please go to www.google.com
[20:07] <dave_> wheres an op when you need them?
[20:07] <intExDK> Hi everyone. I just restarted my computer, and now it won't load X. It says (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. Anybody who can help?
[20:07] <newsense07> lespea: constand might just use album name appended to the front of all filenames
[20:07] <ScorpKing> dave_: they are here
[20:07] <atilla> vga's core and memory clcoks save in a file in ubuntu
[20:07] <newsense07> lespea: am i explaining it ok ?
[20:07] <atilla> I want to find this
[20:07] <lespea> newsense07: do yo understand the command i posted above?
[20:07] <atilla> all of them
[20:07] <lespea> newsense07: i think so
[20:07] <newsense07> lespea: no
[20:08] <dave_> scorpking, i dont see an op in the chat nick listing
[20:08] <atilla> dave_  vga's core and memory clcoks save in a file in ubuntu
[20:09] <ScorpKing> dave_: lol. that doesn't matter. :P
[20:09] <cloakable> atilla: Oh, what file? Never heard of this file.
[20:09] <lespea> newsense07: well, 'find .' means find everything in the current directory
[20:09] <ardchoille> newsense07:  y=0; for i in *; do y=$((y+1)); mv "$i" "$y-$i"; done
[20:09] <dave_> scorpking, iguess not
[20:09] <lespea> '-maxdepth 1' means don't descent into any folders
[20:09] <ubuntu> hi.. some1, i need help :/ i spent this last 3 days installing kubuntu 6.(something) after this i installed 7.10 and than ubuntu 7.10.. in all the 7.1 versions it came out fine, exept my computer berely moved.. so now i m back to kubuntu 6.(something) the only problam is.... after installing in the boot it says grub error 18... and i can only boot from cd... can some1 tell me what to do...?
[20:09] <lespea> '-type f' means only files not folders
[20:09] <newsense07> lespea: lets say i want to append the word file to the beginning of all filenames in a dir, what would be the command ?
[20:10] <cloakable> atilla: I know the memory clocks are set in the bios, though. Linux has nothing to do with that.
[20:10] <atilla> cloakable: already everybody dont know this file
[20:10] <stefano> HELLO
[20:10] <dave_> atilla, so your trying to overclock just the graphics?
[20:10] <lespea> newsense07: this should do it: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0|xargs -0 -I{} mv {} file{}
[20:10] <newsense07> lespea: let me try it
[20:11] <lespea> wait
[20:11] <stefano> Italian people ??
[20:11] <atilla> I overclcoking all parts bu vga just overclocking with os
[20:11] <lespea> newsense07: wait
[20:11] <winterelf> any1??? :(
[20:11] <ScorpKing> !it
[20:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:11] <newsense07> lespea: ok
[20:11] <lespea> newsense07: i forgot find appends ./ to the filename... 1 sec
[20:11] <newsense07> lespea: say i wanted to append the word file to all files in directory /home/user/dir/
[20:12] <atilla> dave_ gpu-ram-mobo-vga
[20:12] <ScorpKing> winterelf: i think the problem might be with the UUID's in /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab.
[20:12] <atilla> dave_ CPU :D
[20:12] <ardchoille> newsense07:  http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/42977
[20:12] <newsense07> lespea: appreciate it, been trying this all morning
[20:12]  * ScorpKing will be back soon..
[20:12] <atilla> I use ubuntu in windows
[20:12] <winterelf> yes but what should i do?
[20:12] <MidMark> guys I have process that eat all my cpu
[20:13] <MidMark> but top doesn't show it, what can I do?^
[20:13] <newsense07> ardchoille: thanks for the nice example of what that does, im still a little confused but im gonna give it a try
[20:13]  * karola regreso
[20:14] <lespea> ardchoille: that will break because his file names have spaces
[20:14] <winterelf> in the console i wrote grub than "root (hda0,1)
[20:14] <atilla> I want to vga overclcoking for  compiz fusion
[20:14] <winterelf> nothing is up
[20:14] <winterelf> just error
[20:14] <ardchoille> lespea: Oh, ok
[20:14] <lespea> (the for loop part)
[20:15] <fdoving> newsense07: you can do that pretty quick, cd into the dir, then: for i in *;do mv $i file-$i;done
[20:15] <winterelf> damn it, i thing i have a bigger problam... if it can't boot, than i'm stuck with boot from cd (and talking to myself)
[20:15] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to get the Xpenguins program to run.  When I do run it, no penguins show up.  No error messages pop up, nothing.
[20:15] <atilla> lespea: say me how to overclcok vga in ubuntu
[20:15] <dave_> atilla, have fun with the fire
[20:15] <dave_> :)
[20:15] <newsense07> fdoving: thanks i think i finally understand
[20:15] <atilla> dave_  yes
[20:16] <ardchoille> lespea: The command I gave works with files with spaces too
[20:16] <newsense07> thanks everyone, few different examples helped a lot
[20:16] <atilla> www.hardwarena.vom this is my overclcoking web site
[20:16] <atilla> www.hardwarena.com
[20:16] <atilla> enter
[20:16] <ardchoille> atilla: I think you're in the wrong channel to talk about overclocking
[20:17] <atilla> no
[20:17] <atilla> ı want every body do overclocking
[20:17] <dave_> i tried  to tell him that but he dosent want to listen
[20:17] <lespea> ardchoille: oh i was thinking of for i in ls
[20:17] <atilla> for performance
[20:17] <fdoving> atilla: chances are that noone here knows the answer to your question as you have asked it several times without getting any usefull answers. Please be patient or go search the web or some forum. Staying around here asking again and again will not help you to anything but beeing removd from the channel. thanks for understanding.
[20:17] <lespea> ardchoille: good call
[20:17] <ardchoille> lespea: :)
[20:17] <atilla> cheap card hihg performans
[20:18] <atilla> fdoving : shut up dont do show
[20:19] <ardchoille> atilla: Be nice or leave the channel.
[20:19] <atilla> I want to be nice
[20:19] <atilla> but somebody not be nice
[20:19] <lespea> atilla: you don't overclock in any os, you do it in the bios -- it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:19] <ardchoille> Several people have told you this isn't the place for what you're asking
[20:19] <lespea> atilla: and what's with the attitude?
[20:19] <atilla> but
[20:19] <dave_> hes Waaay off topic but theres no admin willing to stop him
[20:19] <atilla> oveclcokers use windows xp
[20:20] <atilla> I want to use linux
[20:20] <lespea> atilla: sigh
[20:20] <atilla> I say how to overclcoking in linux
[20:20]  * ScorpKing is back..
[20:20] <Alarm> i just downloaded some themes from kde-look , but the files are inside a gz, so i cant open them from the theme manager, how do i install those themes?
[20:20] <lespea> atilla: do you even read what i'm typing?
[20:20] <ardchoille> fdoving: ty
[20:20] <ScorpKing> dave_: see? :D
[20:21] <LjL> atilla is not entirely wrong, overclocking a graphics card doesn't necessarily have to be done in the BIOS. there is a tool at least for nVidia i think that's available in Ubuntu.
[20:21] <dave_> scorpking,THANK YOu!!!!
[20:21] <ScorpKing> lol
[20:21] <LjL> !info nvclock
[20:21] <ubotu> nvclock: Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8b2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 176 kB
[20:21] <LjL> !info rovclock
[20:21] <ubotu> rovclock: utility to control frequency rates of your Radeon card. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6e-5 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 alpha ia64 arm armel armeb)
[20:21] <NickPresta> LjL, I believe it's nvclock[-qt|-gtk] and rovclock
[20:21] <NickPresta> ah, beat by LjL :)
[20:21] <ScorpKing> winterelf: what is your disk? /dev/hd?
[20:22] <ardchoille> LjL: It was his attitude and the "shut up" that I wasn't comfy with
[20:22] <lespea> LjL: well that works too, but he still has issues with his attidude / listening to what people have to say
[20:22] <newsense07> fdoving: when i ran the command ya gave me it complains the files arent directories
[20:22] <winterelf> scorpKing what do u mean (i'm noop)
[20:22] <dave_> lespea,exactly
[20:22] <LjL> ardchoille, lespea: i would suspect that's why a mute is in place.
[20:22] <winterelf> noob
[20:22] <fdoving> newsense07: did you add any slashes?
[20:23] <newsense07> no
[20:23] <lespea> LjL: :)
[20:23] <ScorpKing> winterelf: run ls /dev/ | grep hd - and tell me what it say
[20:23] <newsense07> fdoving: changed the word file- with 1972-
[20:23] <fdoving> newsense07: are there subdirectories in your directory?
[20:23] <newsense07> fdoving: not in my working dir where the files are at, no
[20:24] <dave_> help, my graphics went haywire and i cant get up!!!
[20:24] <fdoving> newsense07: then it should work.
[20:24] <winterelf> scorpKing: how can i check my disk?
[20:24] <ScorpKing> winterelf: type ls /dev/ | grep hd in konsole
[20:24] <newsense07> fdoving: guess im getting closer, gotta figure this out now
[20:25] <LjL> newsense07, i haven't followed the discussion really, but i think you want to batch-rename files... have you tried 'rename'?
[20:25] <newsense07> LjL:say i wanted to append the word file to all files in directory /home/user/dir/  you know how i could do that ?
[20:26] <newsense07> LjL: basically what i want to do and never done it before
[20:26] <newsense07> LjL: im clueless
[20:26] <LjL> newsense07: cd /home/usr/dir ; rename ’s/^/file/’
[20:26] <LjL> newsense07: cd /home/usr/dir ; rename ’s/^/file/’ *
[20:26] <lespea> try krename?
[20:27] <fdoving> newsense07: i'm pretty sure 'for i in *;do mv $i 1972-$i;done' should do it.
[20:27] <newsense07> i tried it and found it cryptic
[20:28] <dave_> i changed my login resoloution last night and when i woke up the graphics are gosting and the grapgics setup says i possibly have orphaned control module or old third party modules laying around, how do i fix this, thankss
[20:28] <newsense07> fdoving: STILL SAYING THE FILES ARE NOT DIRECTORIES
[20:28] <newsense07> oops
[20:28] <newsense07> sorry
[20:28] <LjL> fdoving, that won't work in the filenames contain spaces
[20:28] <lespea> newsense07: install krename (sudo aptitude install krename)
[20:28] <LjL> s/in/if/
[20:28] <fdoving> LjL: ah, yeah. spaces are evil.
[20:28] <NickPresta> newsense07, could you explain your problem again (if it's long, can you pastebin it) so others can look over it?
[20:29] <atilla> dont talk anybody
[20:29] <lespea> LjL: i tried it and it did because its file globbing.... for i in ls doesn't work
[20:29] <newsense07> im gonna pastebin it
[20:29] <LjL> why not just use rename?
[20:29] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with my microphone, i can hear it through the speakers, so i know its working, but none of my applications pick it up, gtkguitune wont pick it up, neither will audacity, does anyone know how to fix this or whats wrong?
[20:29] <newsense07> its hard to explain not too complicated if ya know the right commands and arguements i would think
[20:29] <fdoving> newsense07: i'm pretty sure 'for i in *;do mv $i "1972-$i";done' should do it. then.
[20:29] <ardchoille> LjL: krename?
[20:29] <LjL> ardchoille: rename. man rename.
[20:30] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[20:30] <LjL> fdoving: perhaps quote both $i's ;)
[20:30] <LjL> makuseru, is it checked *for recording* in kmix?
[20:30] <ScorpKing> winterelf: ?
[20:31] <fdoving> LjL: yeah, i'll just go get a haircut. you tell him :)
[20:31] <makuseru> LjL: i dont see where that is at
[20:32] <LjL> makuseru: the "Input" tab in KMix. the red "LED"
[20:32] <fdoving> newsense07: 'for i in *;do mv "$i" "1972-$i";done' as ljl corrects me, then.
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> !find qmv
[20:32] <Ange|us> hmm
[20:33] <ubotu> File qmv found in renameutils
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> !info renameutils
[20:33] <winterelf> yea
[20:33] <ubotu> renameutils: Programs to make file renaming easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-4 (gutsy), package size 80 kB, installed size 268 kB
[20:33] <dave_> guess its not m day to get support:(
[20:33] <LjL> i still maintain that « rename 's/^/1972-/' * » is simpler though :P
[20:33] <Ange|us> if i use a 32bit pre-compield program on kubuntu 64bit, will it work??
[20:33] <newsense07> fdoving: yay
[20:33] <winterelf> scorpking
[20:33] <winterelf> ?
[20:33] <ScorpKing> winterelf: did you type those commands?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> The qmv command gives you a list of all filenames, you can edit with a text 3ditor.. then whenya quit - it changes the filenames like you edited. :)
[20:33] <makuseru> LjL: i still dont see "for recording"
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> handy in some cases
[20:33] <LjL> makuseru: ...
[20:33] <lespea> find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0|xargs -0 rename 's/^.\/(.*$)/test$1/'      (replace 'test' with whatever you want)
[20:33] <makuseru> LjL: oh, i get what you mean
[20:33] <LjL> there is no label saying "for recording". that was an english phrase i used.
[20:33] <winterelf> w8..
[20:33] <newsense07> fdoving: cool that worked, im gonna have to read up some things cause im still not sure what the command does exactly but it worked
[20:34] <newsense07> thanks everyone
[20:34] <LjL> lespea: ...
[20:34] <lespea> LjL: ? :D
[20:34] <atilla> dave_ what is your vga
[20:34] <LjL> lespea: why not add a couple of "cat" and "grep" to that? :P
[20:34] <ScorpKing> lol
[20:34] <winterelf> i don't see any commends...
[20:34] <dave_> atilla, hes back
[20:34] <LjL> once again: rename 's/^/prefix/' *     or       rename 's/$/suffix' *
[20:34] <winterelf> linux is on sda7
[20:35] <ScorpKing> winterelf: go to konsole
[20:35] <LjL> add a / to the latter
[20:35] <ScorpKing> oh
[20:35] <atilla> dave_ what???
[20:35] <winterelf> i mount it to /dos
[20:35] <dave_> atilla, i give up
[20:35] <makuseru> LjL: ok, i checked it, but it still dosnt work
[20:35] <winterelf> cause i booted from the disk
[20:35] <lespea> LjL: what's wrong with the way it works... it will work 100% of the time
[20:35] <winterelf> i m in the konsole
[20:35] <emti> I/O all !
[20:35] <fdoving> newsense07: for i in *, tells for to loop over * (which expands to all files and driectories in the current folder, and run the next command 'mv $i bah-$i' once per file/dir, so the files are $i one at a time., then done.
[20:36] <LjL> lespea: so will mine, and it doesn't involve a redundant find and xargs, since 'rename' *already* deals with "*" ;)
[20:36] <ScorpKing> winterelf: run uuidgen /dev/sda7 and compare that number with the one for sda7 in /etc/fstab
[20:36] <newsense07> thank god for this channel
[20:36] <lespea> LjL: and that's for sure 100% compatable with all filenames (including weird spaces and such)
[20:36] <lespea> LjL: print0 ensures it will always get the correct filename
[20:36] <LjL> lespea: so is rename
[20:36] <fdoving> LjL: rename requires perl. too many depends :)
[20:36] <LjL> fdoving, lespea's command line uses rename as well
[20:37] <ScorpKing> winterelf: /dos/etc/fstab :)
[20:37] <LjL> and perl is installed on any APT system as APT *uses* perl :)
[20:37] <lespea> LjL: mine is easily adaptable to recursively rename :P
[20:37] <lespea> LjL: and also to regex the filenames if you want (-regex)
[20:38] <LjL> lespea: true enough, yet not relevant to the case at hand. write a C program to do it - that's even more adaptable :)
[20:38] <lespea> LjL: :p
[20:38] <lespea> LjL: I love find -print0 ;)
[20:40] <dave_> how do i delete old third party modules in kubuntu?
[20:40] <_3mti_> rm :]
[20:40] <dave_> rm?
[20:40] <winterelf> scorpKing: /dev/sda7 is some wierd number... but /dos/etc/fstab can't find
[20:40] <_3mti_> rmmod modulename
[20:41] <_3mti_>  /dos/etc ?.. /etc/fstab !
[20:41] <dave_> 3mti, how do i find what modules are old?
[20:41] <LjL> dave_: module - you mean kernel modules? and "third-party" in what way?
[20:41] <ScorpKing> winterelf: where did you mount it?
[20:41] <winterelf> yea
[20:41] <winterelf> ho w8 i got it
[20:42] <winterelf> comparing
[20:42] <ScorpKing> ok :)
[20:42] <dave_> jlj,its a error message my video settings are giving me
[20:42] <winterelf> they r both not the same at all
[20:42] <winterelf> crapy numbers
[20:42] <_3mti_> what video gfx u have dave_
[20:42] <_3mti_> nvidia chipset ?
[20:42] <dave_> ljl, 3dfx voodoo 3
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> Heh heh..
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> I got one of those.
[20:43] <ScorpKing> winterelf: make the number in fstab the same as the one you got from uuidgen /dev/sda7
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> Somewhere.
[20:43] <_3mti_> VooDoo is old... drivers is included for voodoo
[20:43] <winterelf> how can i do that...
[20:43] <dave_> it says the module monitor&display could not be loaded
[20:43] <_3mti_> dave_: what module U want to load ?
[20:44] <ScorpKing> winterelf: kdesu kate <mountpoint>/etc/fstab
[20:44] <LjL> dave_, the voodoo Xorg driver is installed by default -- like all other video drivers. it should *not* give you errors, though, if you are *not* using it. are you using it?
[20:44] <dave_> the one that was there before
[20:44] <LjL> do you have it as your driver in xorg.conf?
[20:44] <_3mti_> read Documentation of xorg.conf
[20:44] <_3mti_> man xorg.conf
[20:44] <dave_> ljl, yeah i am using it
[20:45] <dave_> ljl, or was before last night
[20:45] <LjL> dave_: then why would you want to delete it, if you need it?
[20:45] <atilla> who use 8800 ultra
[20:45] <_3mti_> not me
[20:46] <dave_> ljl, i adjusted my login graphics  settings yesterday and today the graphics are gosting and it would not let me load the graphical settings panel
[20:47] <_3mti_> are U using nvidia chipset  ?
[20:47] <dave_> no, 3dfx
[20:47] <LjL> dave_: so you want to *fix* it, not *delete* it...?
[20:47] <dave_> fix it
[20:47] <winterelf> scorpKing: "canot connect to x server
[20:47] <dave_> i dint knowe what happened
[20:48] <_3mti_> check in /etc/xorg.conf line DRIVER "3dfx" (u have it?)
[20:48] <dave_> 3mti,ok just a sec
[20:48] <ScorpKing> winterelf: you have to edit the file as root.
[20:48] <winterelf> damn
[20:48] <_3mti_> dave_: your X-win don't want to getup ?
[20:49] <ScorpKing> winterelf: do you know how to use vim?
[20:49] <dave_> 3mti,something like that
[20:49] <_3mti_> read log messages for debugging/analise
[20:49] <winterelf> i know how to use pico as edit file
[20:49] <winterelf> no vim
[20:49] <TurtleNZ85> Hello all, can someone help me perminately mount a second hard drive?
[20:50] <ScorpKing> winterelf: sudo pico <mountpoint>/etc/fstab
[20:50] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: type in console: dmsg | grep "hd"
[20:50] <winterelf> scorpKing: when u say <mountpoint> do u mean /dos?
[20:51] <rgreening> _3mti_: could be sd if it's using the scsi interface
[20:51] <_3mti_> yes
[20:51] <ScorpKing> winterelf: yes
[20:51] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: type in console: dmsg | grep "sd"
[20:51] <winterelf> ok
[20:51] <_3mti_> and check the results
[20:51] <Bsims> I don't have anything in disks and devices under kubuntu control panel... any ideas
[20:51] <_3mti_> mount /dev/hd* /mnt/mountpoint
[20:52] <Bsims> I purged and reinstalled the package
[20:52] <dave_> 3mti, i dont see a xorg in the etc folder
[20:52] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ : bash: dmsg: command not found
[20:52] <_3mti_> dave_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:52] <Bsims> I am trying to get kde to automount removable devices
[20:52] <dave_> 3mti,ooh ok
[20:53] <winterelf> scorpKing: one little question... if i excedently enter to vim... how can i get out... just can't!
[20:53] <_3mti_> meta+q
[20:53] <ScorpKing> winterelf: type :q!
[20:54] <winterelf> $%#$% it just don't get out of there
[20:54] <_3mti_> winterelf: use mcedit (is good for console & have highlighting syntax)
[20:54] <winterelf> k
[20:54] <TurtleNZ85> error : "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[20:54] <mike-kubuntu> what would keep a package froom being upgraded?
[20:54] <ScorpKing> winterelf: type <esc> first
[20:54] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: are u in root mode ?
[20:54] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ no
[20:54] <mike-kubuntu> i have 8 packages or so held back and dont know how to unhold them
[20:55] <Bsims> I don't have anything in disks and devices under kubuntu control panel... any ideas... I am trying to turn on automount in KDE
[20:55] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: try from root
[20:55] <LjL> winterelf: http://bash.org/?795779
[20:55] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ I mounted it as root, i get this error when accessing it as normal user.
[20:55] <LjL> hey, is that you?
[20:55] <winterelf> i'm in <mountpoint>
[20:55] <winterelf> sudo pico <mountpoint>/etc/fstab
[20:56] <dave_> 3mti, somebody helped me change my login  resoloution in here yesterday that might have messed it up
[20:56] <ScorpKing> winterelf: sudo pico etc/fstab
[20:56] <_3mti_> dave_: to change resolution check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:56] <Bsims> Anyone else missing Disk and Filesystems in System Settings under advanced?
[20:56] <_3mti_> dave_: or read man xorg.conf for more information
[20:56] <_3mti_> dave_: or read man xorg.conf for more informations
[20:57] <LjL> or use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:57] <LjL> !fixres
[20:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:58] <winterelf> sudo pico dos/etc/fstab   and another shell of sudo pico /etc/fstab
[20:58] <_3mti_> xwin resolution: or type CTRL+ALT+gray PLUS !!
[20:58] <_3mti_> or minus
[20:58] <ScorpKing> winterelf: type sudo pico /dos/etc/fstab
[20:59] <winterelf> yes yes
[20:59] <winterelf> i did it
[20:59] <_3mti_> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE = restart xwindow
[20:59] <winterelf> what now?
[20:59] <ScorpKing> winterelf: now make thos numbers the same for /dev/sda7
[20:59] <ScorpKing> those*
[20:59] <_3mti_> ScorpKing: ??
[21:00] <livingdaylight>                               can someone help diagnose my sectors?
[21:00] <TurtleNZ85> Is anyone free to help me with a mount access problem?
[21:00] <dave_> 3mti, the person told me change the first virtual mode resolution in  the settings to the current graphics resolution and that is what messed up my file
[21:00] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: what access ?
[21:00] <ScorpKing> winterelf: you will see a long number just under #/dev/sda7. make that the same as the one you got from uuidgen /dev/sda7
[21:00] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" error when access. was mounted as root.
[21:00] <ScorpKing> _3mti_: ^ see there
[21:00] <livingdaylight> aftere installing when i say reboot it didn't happen automatically and when i did reboot i saw 'fail' for sector
[21:01] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: sudo /bin/bash & try mount
[21:01] <livingdaylight> so, i don't know if i have a sold os here
[21:01] <winterelf> ok shity number
[21:01] <ScorpKing> lol. i know
[21:01] <ScorpKing> good luck
[21:01] <spiroo> In Kopete there is a button where it says, open up incoming mail box for msn. But when I click there, it opens up in Kate. How do I fix that. I need that because I have forgotten my pasword to hotmail account.
[21:02] <_3mti_> spiroo: Try configure
[21:02] <mike-kubuntu> how do i force a package upgrade?
[21:02] <spiroo> Or if it is possible to show stored password in Kopete?
[21:02] <spiroo> configure what?
[21:02] <ScorpKing> spiroo: in kde wallet
[21:03] <spiroo> is it possible to show them from KDe Wallet?
[21:03] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:03] <_3mti_> :]
[21:03] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ THANK YOU!! :-)
[21:03] <spiroo> how and whwere in wallet?
[21:03] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: No Problem !
[21:04] <ScorpKing> spiroo: look around. click on the wallet in the system tray
[21:04] <livingdaylight> how can i test whether i have a proper install here?
[21:04] <spiroo> I have but there is no password show or anything.
[21:04] <winterelf> ok
[21:04] <livingdaylight> i read something about segment failure??
[21:04] <ScorpKing> winterelf: done?
[21:04] <winterelf> i hope i didn't f%# it up
[21:04] <MilesG> omg hello?
[21:04] <winterelf> :/
[21:04] <ScorpKing> winterelf: one more to change. :P
[21:05] <spiroo> Is ther some sort of file in kubuntu where you could find the passwords?
[21:05] <ScorpKing> winterelf: in /dos/boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:05] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: use gdb progname for debug mode
[21:05] <winterelf> yea
[21:05] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: oh, boy.... :/
[21:05] <MilesG> spiroo: /etc/passwd
[21:05] <MilesG> spiroo: it doesnt really do much to look at it though
[21:05] <winterelf> sudo pico?
[21:05] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: do i first of all download that 'gdb'?
[21:05] <MilesG> spiroo: actually, forget what i said entirely
[21:06] <winterelf> lol
[21:06] <spiroo> MilesG: What? .P
[21:06] <ScorpKing> winterelf: find the entry that say root=UUID=???? and fix that one as well. only change the UUID of the first entry.
[21:06] <MilesG> spiroo: nothin haha
[21:06] <winterelf> ok
[21:06] <dave_> guess ill have to reinstall
[21:06] <ScorpKing> spiroo: did you find it in the wallet?
[21:07] <spiroo> ScorpKing: No
[21:07] <ScorpKing> dave_: why?
[21:07] <spiroo> I need to find it in Kopete, it is the only way. Somewhere it must be stored.
[21:07] <dave_> scorpking, because i cant figurre this out
[21:07] <MilesG> does anyone know a good java irc channel on freenode?
[21:07] <ScorpKing> can someone please guide spiroo to get a password from kdewallet. i don't have it installed.
[21:08] <penguat> hello, anyone any good with wireless?
[21:08] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: can U say again ?
[21:08] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: what do U want  ?
[21:08] <gareth_> _3mti_ After restart, same problem :-(
[21:08] <ScorpKing> dave_: problems with X?
[21:08] <gareth_> _3mti_ (this is TurtleNZ85)
[21:08] <spiroo> yes please anyone, I need my password now.
[21:08] <MilesG> !hi | gareth_
[21:09] <ubotu> gareth_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[21:09] <winterelf> kopt=root=UUID....?
[21:09] <dave_> scorpking, i think so
[21:09] <_3mti_> gareth_:  what's problem ?
[21:09] <_3mti_> spiroo: pass from what ?
[21:09] <penguat> anyone? wireless help?
[21:09] <_3mti_> spiroo: root pass ?
[21:09] <_3mti_> penguat: what the problem ?
[21:09] <dave_> scorpking, the config file got messed up
[21:09] <winterelf> scorpKing kopt=root=UUID....?
[21:09] <ScorpKing> dave_: next time make a backup of the file. :P
[21:09] <|dthacker|> Yea. I'm updated.
[21:09] <dave_> i did
[21:10] <penguat> I'm trying to configure my wireless
[21:10] <ScorpKing> winterelf: yes
[21:10] <ScorpKing> dave_: so copy it back
[21:10] <_3mti_> penguat: man iwconfig
[21:10] <ScorpKing> penguat: explain the problem plz..
[21:10] <dave_> scorpkinng,how?
[21:10] <gareth_> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[21:10] <gareth_> that happens when trying to access previously mounted drive as root
[21:10] <ScorpKing> dave_: where did you back it up to?
[21:10] <FisherPrice> thanks for your help pple
[21:10] <spiroo> I need password to a hotmail account, which is stored on computer but I want to check email. I do not remeber password, but it is stored in Kopete.
[21:11] <winterelf> done
[21:11] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: U mouting from root ?
[21:11] <ScorpKing> winterelf: reboot and good luck. ;)
[21:11] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ Yes, there was a #
[21:11] <winterelf> lol
[21:11] <dave_> scorpking, x11 folder
[21:11] <penguat> ah, thanks
[21:11] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: what partition u mouting ?
[21:11] <ScorpKing> spiroo: one sec. i'm starting my other box.
[21:11] <winterelf> thanks scorpKIng.... hope to c u soom ;)
[21:12] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: if U are root is no UID GUID perrmission needed
[21:12] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: maybie U add your user to some group
[21:12] <spiroo> ScorpKing. thank you
[21:12] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ Is it a good idea to be added to root group?
[21:12] <ScorpKing> dave_: sudo cp /etc/X11/backupfilename /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:13] <penguat> should I paste the result of iwconfig here?
[21:13] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: No.. is not good idea
[21:13] <ScorpKing> !paste
[21:13] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ so how do i set a group with the permission and add myself to it?
[21:13] <penguat> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:"Cottagenet"          Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated          Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0          Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off          Power Management:off          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[21:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:13] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: give me your mount results
[21:13] <ScorpKing> where is the bot?!
[21:13] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ privately?
[21:13] <penguat> sorry
[21:13] <ScorpKing> oh
[21:13] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: on channel
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> gareth@HAL9000:~$ sudo fdisk -lu
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
[21:14] <ScorpKing> spiroo: do you see the wallet icon in the system tray?
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Disk identifier: 0x0000f238
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:14] <spiroo> ScorpKing: yes
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> /dev/sda1   *          63   482335559   241167748+  83  Linux
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> /dev/sda2       482335560   488392064     3028252+   5  Extended
[21:14] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: U want mount some device on your linux YEAH ?
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> /dev/sda5       482335623   488392064     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Disk /dev/sdb: 20.0 GB, 20060135424 bytes
[21:14] <ScorpKing> spiroo: click on it
[21:14] <Tetrapus> hi there
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2438 cylinders, total 39179952 sectors
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> Disk identifier: 0x0009fa72
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> /dev/sdb1   *          63    39166469    19583203+  83  Linux
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> gareth@HAL9000:~$
[21:14] <ScorpKing> !paste
[21:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:14] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_ yup, it is a second hard drive. formatted with ext3
[21:14] <spiroo> ScorpKing: I have
[21:15] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: hmm your HDD is damaged ? or is some problem with partitions
[21:15] <_3mti_> Bad Blocks ?
[21:15] <dave_> scorpking, i have 4  conf files in the x 11 folder, xorg.conf, xorg.conf~(recycled), and xorg.conf.1, xorg.conf.backup
[21:15] <ScorpKing> spiroo: open the kdewallet you see in there
[21:15] <spiroo> Oh thank you ScorpKing: I found it :)
[21:15] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_: I don't know. don't think so. aren't sure how to check.
[21:15] <Tetrapus> Sorry, wanted to know how to open a readio stream with amarok. It seems to crash if i want to open http://lsd.newmedia.nacamar.net/bb/redirect.lsc?content=live&media=mp3&stream=ndr/n-joy.mp3
[21:15] <perrako> Hey guys -- I'm not getting any sound because I believe alsa is playing through the wrong soundcard
[21:15] <ScorpKing> spiroo: :) nice
[21:15] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_: Only when restarted to i get this error.
[21:16] <perrako> I used to be able to use alsaconf on sabayon but alsaconf doesn't exist on ubuntu apparently
[21:16] <penguat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43171/
[21:16] <perrako> how do I switch?
[21:16] <ScorpKing> dave_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:17] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: what is your partition mode (ext2, fat32? ntfs? or whatever)
[21:18] <snikker> how can i play .3gp files with audio? with mplayer, vlc, helix, realplayer i can see only the video with no audio. can you help me?
[21:18] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_: ext3
[21:18] <dave_> scorpking, ok
[21:18] <ScorpKing> dave_: restart X
[21:18] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: All partitions is on ext3 ?
[21:18] <ScorpKing> snikker: i have the same problem. :(
[21:18] <TurtleNZ85> _3mti_: this drive is ext3.
[21:19] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: ping
[21:19] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: why does my konversation not flash red when i'm in different desktop or away when someone speaks to me?
[21:19] <livingdaylight> i just get the feeling having just installed kubuntu that it is not quite right, how can i test it
[21:20] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: try configure your Konversation program
[21:20] <snikker> ScorpKing: so we can't solve the problem?  :-(
[21:20] <ScorpKing> snikker: google. :P
[21:20] <Flosoft> hi
[21:20] <dave_> scorpking, ok  but the graphics on the login screen are at a extremly lo resolution, and almost off the screen, that's why i adjusted the virtual settings
[21:20] <Flosoft> I need some help with the setup of an SNMP server
[21:20] <Flosoft> I have an UPS on ttyS0
[21:21] <Flosoft> and I somehow want to connect that to an SNMP server
[21:21] <ScorpKing> dave_: now you can try again and don't have to reinstall. ;)
[21:21] <_3mti_> dave_: check your x-window settings
[21:21] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: just looking for it but don't know where... but that is so basic shouldn't have to configure that feature
[21:21] <dave_> scorpking, yay, thanks
[21:21] <ScorpKing> np
[21:22] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: tell me your problem on PRIV
[21:22] <TurtleNZ85> How do I make a mounted drive accessible by all users?
[21:23] <ardchoille> TurtleNZ85: change permissions on the mountpoint
[21:23] <dave_> scorpking, one more thing, how do i check my x-window settings? :-)
[21:23] <TurtleNZ85> ardchoille: please explain.
[21:23] <ardchoille> TurtleNZ85: Where is it mounted?
[21:23] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: read documentation of mount
[21:23] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: can you see me?
[21:23] <mike-kubuntu> anyone got any ideas to compress some xvid avi's from 4.9 gigs to 4.7?
[21:23] <penguat> this is a stupid question, but how do i REGISTER ON THIS SERVER?
[21:24] <duane> here is how I installed lamp
[21:24] <ScorpKing> dave_: in kcontrol
[21:24] <penguat> oops, sorry for caps
[21:24] <duane> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[21:24] <NickPresta> !register | penguat
[21:24] <ubotu> penguat: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[21:24] <TurtleNZ85> ardchoille: /media/20G Media
[21:24] <dave_> scorpking, ko thanks
[21:24] <dave_> *ok
[21:24] <livingdaylight> anyone know why opera is not in my repos?
[21:24] <duane> but when I put a phpinfo file in the root directory it trys to download it instead of view it??
[21:24] <_3mti_> [505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[21:24] <penguat> this is freenode? shows up as irc.kde.org
[21:24] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: not sure whether you can see me in private
[21:25] <NickPresta> duane, you have to add a directive to your httpd.conf file in order for apache to send the correct mime-type for PHP files
[21:25] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: [505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[21:25] <ardchoille> TurtleNZ85: change the permissions on /media/20G Media: sudo chmod -R a+r /media/20G\ Media
[21:25] <NickPresta> duane, private message me and I will direct you to the correct help page.
[21:25] <dave_> scorpking, is kcontrol installed by default?
[21:25] <duane> my httpd.conf is empty you mean apache2.php?
[21:25] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: check yourself then maybe because i am registered
[21:25] <ScorpKing> dave_: yes. kontrol centre
[21:26] <_3mti_> TurtleNZ85: chmod 755 /etc/mountpoint
[21:26] <NickPresta> duane, no, you should have a conf file somewhere (check in /etc/apache*) where you can modify your configuration options.
[21:26] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: i'm not registred :] im a GNU helper :]
[21:27] <ardchoille> TurtleNZ85: Do you want everyone to be able to read only or read and write?
[21:27] <dave_> scorpking, i dont see it in the menus
[21:27] <ScorpKing> duane: you have the php packages missing for apache
[21:27] <TurtleNZ85> ardchoille: yup,... *trying what you said*
[21:27] <ScorpKing> dave_: press alt+f2 and run kcontrol
[21:27] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: well, i gave my password and it told me that i was already registered
[21:28] <dave_> scorpking, ahh, thanks again
[21:28] <_3mti_> U give pass for what program ?
[21:28] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: _3mti_ is not id'd atm
[21:28] <TheWozA> whats a good cd drive emu software for kubuntu?
[21:28] <livingdaylight> ardchoille: heh
[21:28] <ScorpKing> dave_: you're welcome
[21:28] <duane> I have the php packages ScorpKing
[21:29] <livingdaylight> _3mti_ | ardchoille i did / msg nickserv identify <password>
[21:29] <duane> add this in my httpd.conf NickPresta?
[21:29] <duane> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[21:29] <duane> AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[21:29] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: you are id'd now, _3mti_ is not
[21:29] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: no IRC identifi
[21:29] <mike-kubuntu> where can i find the emerald-themes package?
[21:30] <NickPresta> duane, yeah, that should be added
[21:30] <duane> that should be it then?
[21:30] <_3mti_> mike-kubuntu: on kde look i think
[21:30] <livingdaylight> ardchoille: i'm not id'd now; i was id'd already... :)
[21:30] <ScorpKing> duane: no
[21:30] <ardchoille> livingdaylight: Ah, ok
[21:30] <_3mti_> try: http://www.kde-look.org/
[21:31] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: heh? i've identified as much as i know... what are you suggesting exaqctly? ardchoillesays its you who's not identified
[21:31] <TurtleNZ85> ardchoille: still no luck bud
[21:31] <duane> seems to have worked ScorpKing
[21:31] <ScorpKing> duane: if it wants to save instead of display the php file you have a package missing. i don't know which one it is but i had the same problem.
[21:31] <ScorpKing> !LAMP
[21:31] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:31] <ScorpKing> oh ok.
[21:31] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: sorry man... my english 2 pure, i can understand U
[21:32] <duane> its displaying now
[21:32] <ScorpKing> :)
[21:32] <duane> :)
[21:32] <_3mti_> :>
[21:32] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: your engnlish 2 pure? dude you suggest i speak in private channel and that i'm not registered. I am registered
[21:34] <TurtleNZ85> *sigh* I need help mounting :S
[21:34] <_3mti_> livingdaylight: is very hard to expain all for U is my fault.. sorry
[21:35] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: you suggested i use gdm? to do bug something?
[21:35] <_3mti_> if is some POLISH user I can help ]
[21:35] <mike-kubuntu> how do i install something set to manual install?
[21:35] <_3mti_> no
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> 'set to manual install' ? Huh?
[21:35] <mike-kubuntu> it says that a package is set to manual install
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> what says that - about what package?
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> ive never heard that term used befor.
[21:36] <Alarm> is there any dockbar that could be used on the top of the screen ? not on bottom like every other dock bar ?
[21:36] <livingdaylight> _3mti_: gdb programme for debug mode?
[21:36] <_3mti_> mike-kubuntu: download a packages... unpack... ./Configure; make ; make all; make install
[21:36] <mike-kubuntu> nvm, i did it specifically and it did it, just saw that it was set to manual install and ignored everythign else
[21:36] <_3mti_> gdb is a debbuger
[21:36] <ScorpKing> Alarm: just move it to the top
[21:36] <_3mti_> if U have segmen fault.. u can use gdb progname for debbuging
[21:37] <nonewmsgs> ok i want to do a clean install, so right now im backing up my /home on a new hard drive.  now i want to know what would i have to do to make that whole drive my /home.  it's already ext3, so do i need to do anything special or is it going to try to resize/format it again
[21:37] <ScorpKing> Alarm: or try kooldock
[21:37] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i installed kubuntu fresh here, but not sure if it is 100% i got a segment fail when i rebooted after install so not sure
[21:37] <mike-kubuntu> oh, that'd be the problem, brocken packages
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight could been a currupted cd/iso/bad burn.
[21:37] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: also kubuntu is acting out of character. Konversation by default flashes red if i'm away when someone speaks to me
[21:38] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: yes, could be except when i first put cd in and checked it it came back clean....but you never know, true
[21:38] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: so, wonderd if there was a way oftesting incase i should reinstall from a different cd before i get too settled into this current install
[21:38] <Alarm> ScorpKing,  they cant be moved
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight i know of no way to 'verify'
[21:39] <ScorpKing> Alarm: look in kcontrol
[21:39] <penguat> is it possible to use the wireless tools provided for WPA2-PSK access?
[21:40] <bleaked> nonewmsgs: during the install, when you get to the part where you set up partitions, do it manually, set up a partition for root, make the mount point " / ", set up a swap partition, say a gig or so, then set the other hard drive's mount point to
[21:40] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: ok, soemone mentioned gdb program to debug but i don't iknow what that means
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight its a tool to debug bianries.. but if the whole system may be goofy.. that wont do much good.
[21:40] <bleaked> nonewmsgs: "/home", but uncheck the 'format' box, so your data will not be deleted
[21:40] <nonewmsgs> excellant.  thanks
[21:40] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: apart from konversation being out of character with the red flash feature i also don't have opera in repos, is that right?
[21:40] <methods> why is pcmcia-cs deprecated?
[21:41] <abcd> Hello, is there any way to make kmplayer default embedded streaming media player in firefox?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight not sure what repo opera is in.
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> !find opera
[21:43] <ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[21:44] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: afaik i've ticked all repos go...
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> i normally just grab the deb. I think thers some unoffical opera repos
[21:44] <bleaked> abcd: i'm pretty sure you cannot, at least not until firefox 3.. i recommend the mplayerplug-in, or embedding totem.  the former would essentially be the same backen kmplayer uses, just different interface.
[21:45] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: but it bothers me that it is not in repos when it should be; an indication my system is a bit goofy?
[21:46] <nonewmsgs> if i want gnome and kde, what is better to start with?
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight it ir mnore likely theyve rearanged the repos
[21:46] <blake812> Hi everyone
[21:46] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, are there any good websites with .deb packages similar to rpmfind.. I remember one but I've lost the address there
[21:46] <blake812> Can I speak to someone?
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight there used tobe a ubuntu-comercial repo. but not sure if that still around in gutsy or not
[21:46] <nonewmsgs> yes
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> blake812 you allready are. :)
 You're Right
[21:47] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: ok, i was in ubuntu gutsy and it had it for sure, so that is why i expected it... but maybe its setup differently in kubuntu
[21:47] <bleaked> nonewmsgs: kde of course :D
[21:48] <penguat> can I use knetworkmanager to configure a WPA network?
[21:48] <bleaked> RytmenPinnen: getdeb is the best one
 i can't run Konversation if Guarddog is enables
[21:48] <ScorpKing> lespea: is spoke to you earlier about mp3 and k3b (ingrid - gf's box). ubuntu-restricted-extras did not solve it
[21:48] <penguat> it says I can use WEP, but that's useless
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> you can use the same sources.list in Ubuntu/Kubuntu   or use that !easysource site to remake them
enabled, sorry
[21:48] <abcd> bleaked: thanks
[21:48] <abcd> There's a possibility to use xine engine in kmplayer, what i find very useful. Is there any xine plugin for firefox?
[21:48] <bleaked> abcd: totem
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> blake812 i dont use guarddog. or any other of the firewall stuff.. it must be blocking the irc ports
[21:49] <nonewmsgs> thanks bleaked
[21:49] <RytmenPinnen> ah thanks
[21:49] <abcd> bleaked: thanks again, i'll try it
[21:49] <bleaked> abcd: totem-mozilla is the package
[21:49] <ScorpKing> how can i make audio cd's from mp3's in k3b? it does not have support for it. what package is missing?
[21:49] <ardchoille> TurtleNZ85: what is the output of:  ls -lha /media/20G\ Media
[21:50] <bleaked> ScorpKing: libk3b2-mp3
[21:50] <Exploit> hi there. where may i get java? I want to use kubunto for programming with java (schhol) :)
[21:50] <eagles0513875> how do i block contacts in kopete
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> !java
[21:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:50] <ScorpKing> thanks bleaked. :)
[21:50] <dave> scorpking, sorry, but I couldnt see any login resoloution settins in kcontrol
[21:51] <nonewmsgs> is kde4 recomended yet or is it still real buggy
 ok thank you so much
[21:51] <eagles0513875> how do i block contacts in kopete
[21:51] <ScorpKing> dave: login manager in kcontrol?
[21:52] <penguat> mmm, can anyone help me to use WPA2 in either KNetworkManager or KWiFimanager?
[21:52] <ScorpKing> penguat: try wifi-radar
[21:52] <penguat> ok
[21:52] <bleaked> nonewmsgs: yea, kde4, though coming along nicely is in pieces.. the current kde is quite smooth.
[21:52] <nonewmsgs> ok thanks again bleaked.  ill wait until it's finished
[21:53] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i had trouble with wifi-rada it screwed up my wifi connection
[21:53] <eagles0513875> and locked up knetworkmanager to where it wouldnt see my wifi card
[21:53] <dave> scorpking,yeah, no resolution settings just font and style settings
[21:54] <ScorpKing> dave: then it is back to xorg.conf. :(
[21:54] <dave> scorpking,aaarrrggg
[21:54] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: oh ok. it works for me tho.
[21:54] <dave> scorpking, thanks anyway
[21:55] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: what kinda wifi card u got
[21:55] <eagles0513875> how do i block contacts in kopete
[21:55] <ScorpKing> dave: google. i think the refresh rates of the monitor is wrong.
[21:56] <ScorpKing> dave: and press <ctrl>+<alt>+<keypad+> a few times and see what happens. ;)
[21:56] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: broadcom
[21:56] <dave> scorpking, no the refresh rate is in the monitor is 85htz  its in the driver settings
[21:56] <bleaked> eagles0513875: well, i personally do not use kopete, but try right clicking on teh contact.. or go to their website and read the docs
[21:56] <eagles0513875> bleaked: alright ty for ur help
[21:56] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i have a bcm4306
[21:56] <mike-kubuntu> k3b wont burn a data dvd because it expects a dvd +- R and i only have a dvd -R
[21:56] <dave> scorpking, just the login screen is in 800x600
[21:56] <mike-kubuntu> any ideas?
[21:57] <ScorpKing> dave: is the setting fine after login?
[21:57] <dave> scorpking but it scrolls i found out
[21:57] <dave> scorpking,yes
[21:58] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: I've never seen a way to block contacts in kopete. msn allows you to do that in the msn account but you have to be connected to do it.
[21:58] <eagles0513875> damn
[21:58] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: ty for ur help
[21:58] <ardchoille> yw
[21:58] <bleaked> eagles0513875: i hate to say it, but pidgin (ex-gaim) is a far superior application
[21:58] <loxitu> i installed Gutsy today, and from the K menu, i cant shutdown my PC, what may be wrong?
[21:59] <eagles0513875> bleaked: lol
[21:59] <eagles0513875> bleaked: i have it downloaded was helpgin someone wiht a problem
[21:59] <dave> scorpking, i found out the gosting was caused by the video cable was up against a power cable(oops)
[21:59] <eagles0513875> i probably get on it
[21:59] <ScorpKing> dave: there is a VGA=7?? option in /boot/grub/menu.lst . maybe check it out.
[21:59] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:59] <loxitu> i installed Gutsy today, and from the K menu, i cant shutdown my PC, what may be wrong?
[21:59] <dave> scorpking,let me check
[22:01] <ardchoille> loxitu: click on "logout"
[22:01] <loxitu> i now, but i want to be able to Shutdown from there
[22:01] <loxitu> i currently have to logout.. an then shutdown...
[22:01] <ardchoille> loxitu: You should have a shutdown button on the logout screen
[22:01] <loxitu> I don't
[22:02] <loxitu> thats why i think it's weird
[22:02] <loxitu> i only have "logut"
[22:02] <DrakeJustice_> loxitu: u have an old version, did u upgrade?
[22:02] <loxitu> Clean install
[22:02] <Alarm> i got a question about the way my system uses my memory. i got 512mb memory and 1024mb swap file. what i isee at the moment is 60mb ONLY used from my memory and 150mb from my swap. why is that happening ? why doesnt it store things on ram ? its much faster than a HD
[22:02] <loxitu> i did a clean install today
[22:02] <livingdaylight> why won't katapult bring up opera?
[22:03] <ardchoille> loxitu: ok, open System Settings, I'll try and help you get the shutdown button
[22:03] <loxitu> ok
[22:03] <loxitu> im there
[22:03] <penguat> am I still online?
[22:03] <penguat> if so, wireless is sorted.
[22:03] <ardchoille> loxitu: System Settings > Advanced tab > Session Manager
[22:03] <loxitu> ok
[22:04] <ardchoille> loxitu: In the "General" section at the top, check "Offer shutdown options"
[22:04] <loxitu> it's checked
[22:04] <ardchoille> loxitu: Click apply and that should do it
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> if  using gdm  to get to KDE, or kdm to get to gnome. some options get disabled also
[22:04] <loxitu> it was already checked :S
[22:04] <livingdaylight> i've installed opera but alt+space, i.e. katapult won't launch it?
[22:04] <ardchoille> loxitu: It was?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight may need to restart katalupt
[22:04] <dave> scorpking, where am i looking in the menu.1st file?
[22:05] <loxitu> yes
[22:05] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: how do you restart it?
[22:05] <loxitu> i uncheked it, and checked it back
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> however yw want.. :) reboot..
[22:05] <ardchoille> loxitu: When you click "Logout", don't you have Restart and Shutdown buttons on the logout dialog?
[22:05] <loxitu> still nothing
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> or log out
[22:05] <livingdaylight> ic
[22:05] <livingdaylight> sorta defeats the purpose
[22:05] <loxitu> ardchoille
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> or jus run it from a terminal for now
[22:05] <loxitu> i dont
[22:05] <ScorpKing> dave: the VGA=7?? option might not be there. it is next to kernel
[22:06] <livingdaylight> basically, katapult is not realiable therefore? ic
[22:06] <loxitu> it kind of remembers me when you do "startx" from a virtua terminal
[22:06] <holyguyver> My computer refuses to boot from anything but grub, not from aCD, not from a floppy. I have checked my bios & it has nothing to do with trhe bios for I told it to boot from all of the right places, & in fact at one point I told it to boot from nothing, not even the harddrive, & grub still booted me into kubuntu. so the problem is in grub. So how do I tell grub to allow my PC to boot into a cd or floppy?
[22:06] <ardchoille> loxitu: You only have "Logout" and "Hibernate" buttons?
[22:06] <loxitu> Only logout
[22:06] <Dr_Willis>  livingdaylight or it dosent constantly rescan for newly installed apps.
[22:06] <ardchoille> loxitu: That's odd
[22:06] <loxitu> real odd
[22:06] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: oookay.... fair enough
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight since the menu system just uses .desktop files for each entry. it proberly only scans them at startup
[22:06] <dave> scorpking,?
[22:06] <loxitu> im using an ATI card
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> could check the katapult docs.
[22:07] <loxitu> it has given me som trouble....
[22:07] <ScorpKing> dave: the VGA=7?? option might not be there. it is next to kernel
[22:07] <tiger__> hi there, I am not able to compile alsa-driver for a custom kernel !! I am getting weird error ? make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-rc1-git12/source SUBDIRS=/usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1 O=/lib/modules/2.6.24-rc1-git12/build CPP="gcc -E" CC="gcc" modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.24-rc1' Makefile:119: *** Output directory (O=...) specifies kernel src dir.  Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.24-rc
[22:07] <hdevalence> Where should I go with kde4 questions?
[22:07] <dave> scorpking,what does that mean?
[22:07] <loxitu> when i start session the screen flickrs for a while
[22:07] <ScorpKing> dave: i have to go now. google for grub vga modes. 771 is 800x600 by 256 colors.
[22:07] <loxitu> im also using xgl-server
[22:07] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i just discovered katapult and thought it was pretty cool; especially the thought of installing something and being able to launch it pronto like that, opposed to looking for it in a menu
[22:07] <loxitu> could it be that?
[22:08] <dave> scorpking,ok  thanks
[22:08] <ardchoille> loxitu: No idea
[22:08] <ScorpKing> c ya!
[22:08] <loxitu> chaisa!!
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight i have a similer tool for Vista even. :0
[22:08] <holyguyver> does anyone know a salution to my problem?
[22:09] <loxitu> i added the shutdown applet to kicker and nothing
[22:09] <loxitu> i wanna cry
[22:09] <dave> can anybody help me adjust my login screen resoloution?
[22:09] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: vista eh :p
[22:09] <ardchoille> loxitu: the applet won't add? or it won't work, which?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> loxitu  You theres other ways to make things shutdown. :)
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> loxitu does the items work FROM the Login screen?
[22:10] <loxitu> it only shows me logout also
[22:10] <RytmenPinnen> !fix adept
[22:10] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> now thats.. odd.
[22:10] <loxitu> yes from the login screen i can shutdown
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> ok :) heh..
[22:10] <ardchoille> loxitu: he's asking about the log IN screen
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> could just do a 'sudo halt' or similer command
[22:10] <loxitu> yes i know
[22:10]  * ardchoille types too slow
[22:11] <loxitu> it works from there (kdm)
[22:11] <nite613__> Can I configure NetworkManager to remove/reload my wifi driver each time a network selection is made?
[22:11] <holyguyver> ardchoille , do you know the salution to my question?
[22:11] <nite613__> It appears to go stupid occasionally and be unable to manipulate the card properly, but reloading the driver fixes it
[22:11] <loxitu> so i currently have to logout and then from the login screen, shutdown
[22:11] <loxitu> is pretty annoying
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> you could  hit alt-ctrl-backspace, then alt-ctrl-delete with the right timing. and force the system to shutdown. :)
[22:12] <lllll> hi im using backtrack but i cant connect to internet with dsl anyone to help me?
[22:12] <ardchoille> holyguyver: No, I wold have suggested BIOS, but you already checked that.
[22:12] <loxitu> Dr_Willis LOL, i know, i just want it to work
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> loxitu or set up the halt command, and just make an icon for it.
[22:12] <loxitu> sudo shutdown -s now ( LOL )
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> actually i thoight the logout panel thing was customizeable as to what command it ran
[22:12] <ardchoille> loxitu: "-s" ?
[22:13] <loxitu> i just noticed something
[22:13] <holyguyver> ardchoille what I think I have to do is add cdrom & floppy as a grub boot option, do you know how I may do that?
[22:13] <loxitu> i can't change between users either
[22:13] <ardchoille> holyguyver: No, sorry :(
[22:14] <dave> isnt there a easy to adjust the log in resolution?
[22:14] <loxitu> i was going to try from another user and i cant
[22:14] <ElGalactico> hi all
[22:15] <dave> seems like a simple thing :-/
[22:16] <dave> i win!!! stumped ya all!!!
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> i just edit the xorg.conf to set my login res.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> it uses the initial default as far as i know.
[22:16] <ardchoille> dave: lol
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> ive neer noticed any othe rplace to change it
[22:17] <dave> dr willis, i did, thats what got me in trouble in the first place
[22:17] <ardchoille> dave  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc  ?
[22:17] <Dr_Willis>  sounds like ya did it wrong. :)
[22:17] <dave> maybe
[22:18] <dave> ardchoille,let me see
[22:19] <ardchoille> dave: was a guess, I don't think that's it, tho
[22:20] <dave> lol
[22:20] <ardchoille> I just assumed "kdmrc" to be the file to config kdm, lol
[22:20] <dave> good try though
[22:20] <dave> :)
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> it is as far as i know. kdmrc - for some kdm settings.. BUT you are setting a X setting.
[22:21] <Shapeshifter> When booting Kubuntu I get an error like "/dev/sdb: unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually. fsck died with exit status 4" and then a maintenance console starts which I have to kill with ctrl-alt-del and then the boot process continues. How to get rid of that?
[22:21] <dave> do i see atool in the making?
[22:22] <dave> :)
[22:23] <dave> the "login resoloution manager"
[22:23] <dave> better spelling though
[22:23] <tiltationaa> can anyone tell me wich prog i need to instal to  saw .mpg
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> normally the default is just fine for most people
[22:24] <holyguyver> !grub
[22:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:25] <tiltationaa> how can i read .mpg ?
[22:25] <holyguyver> tiltationaa most media players will do it, like kmplayer
[22:25] <tiltationaa> or how can i instal new codek... i just instal kubuntu and i wanna show a movie to a friend...
[22:26] <dave> dr willis, you mean i am exceptional!, thanks
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' packatge - should get most codecs
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:27] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[22:27] <tiltationaa> Dr_Willis:  where i take it? i'm new on linux and i doesn't have had time to look at it
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> tiltationaa fire up the package manager, (adept) and search for that package name.
[22:28] <dave> oh well, ill come back another day and pose the question again
[22:28] <BillTheFish> I'm having trouble mounting a hard drive in kubuntu 7.10
[22:29] <BillTheFish> "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[22:29] <nzk> Hey, I'm having problems accessing my external hard drive from Kubuntu.
[22:29] <penguat> Does anyone know how to set up a WPA2 wireless network?
[22:29] <tiltationaa> Dr_Willis:  thank i'll instal package manager and i will try this
[22:29] <BillTheFish> I was able to get the other drives mounted with a script i found.. maby you can use that penguat
[22:30] <BillTheFish> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[22:30] <nzk> It used to work fine, but now Kubuntu stops seeing the hard drive after a short time.
[22:30] <dave> but i still win!!
[22:31] <penguat> mmm?
[22:31] <wassil> hello  !!
[22:32] <penguat> my problem's wireless networking.
[22:32] <wassil> some  bady  can help me  about mythtv
[22:32] <nzk> I have to power cycle my external hard drive every time Kubuntu stops seeing it.
[22:32] <BillTheFish> my bad, didn't see that.. hehe, that url was for nzk
[22:32] <nzk> wassil: Please speak coherently...
[22:32] <penguat> none of the sorry
[22:33] <penguat> oops, sorry again
[22:33] <BluesKaj> !mythtv | wassil
[22:33] <ubotu> wassil: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[22:33] <dave> type in the full question please
[22:33] <penguat> sorry, that to me?
[22:33] <dave> everybody
[22:34] <penguat> full question: How do I go about configuring my wireless adaptor to connect to a network protected by WPA2?
[22:34] <BluesKaj> !wireless | penguat
[22:34] <ubotu> penguat: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:35] <BillTheFish> I'm trying to mount a hard drive.. which contains an existing version of kubuntu.. but dolphin keeps giving me this error "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[22:35] <tiltationaa> Dr_Willis:    i have wrote kubuntu-restricted-extras on Kpackage and i found nothing
[22:36] <nzk> BillTheFish: That guide is only for ntfs or windows partitions, but mine is in ext3 and it is seem by Kubuntu temporarily.
[22:36] <wassil> what  i need to have like  hardwear   for mythtv ??  10x
[22:37] <BillTheFish> Ahh, same here.. Can't get any access of that drive though.. can't use some other solutions i've found.. "Unchecking mount as user" and that script worked for the other drives.. but not the one I'm needing
[22:37] <|dthacker|> !mythbuntu | wassil
[22:37] <ubotu> wassil: Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information
[22:38] <mark_> How can I tell what version og the glibc I have ?
[22:39] <BluesKaj> mark_, type it into the adept searcg=hbar
[22:39] <BluesKaj> err serarchbar
[22:39] <mark_> I'm sorry, type what ?
[22:39] <mark_> Just 'glibc' ?
[22:39] <BluesKaj> yup
[22:41] <mark_> It lists glibc-doc and three lib files, not installed
[22:42] <mark_> if i install them, wil I then be able to install the 2.7 kits ?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> 2.7 what ?
[22:43] <bjwebb> what's a good sip client for kubuntu?
[22:44] <mark_> I need glibc 2.3. kubuntu 7.10 comes with 2.2. The current release is 2.7 from gnu
[22:44] <wassil> can  you tell me  how to register  in this  IRC ??
[22:44] <BluesKaj> !register
[22:44] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[22:45] <mark_> any thank you Blues
[22:45] <mark_> anyway ...
[22:45] <mark_> I got the 2.2 installed (adept)
[22:46] <BluesKaj> mark_,what app requires glibc 2.3 ?
[22:46] <mark_> Recital terminal developer trial
[22:47] <mark_> Just a sec, I'll double check sorry
[22:48] <nonewmsgs> is it possible to combine ntfs partitions using gparted
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> nonewmsgs thats a ... scary idea.. :)
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> I would shink one.. enlarge the other.. boot to windows. and copy the files over.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> Then once one is empty enlarge the other.
[22:51] <mark_> Recital Terminal Developer Trial has a 2.2 glibc version, no problem, thank you.
[22:51] <nonewmsgs> yeah...partition are only cool until you are using 4 different hds of different sizes.
[22:52] <nonewmsgs> with  all different file systems and OSes
[22:52] <DrakeJustice_> lol
[22:52] <mark_> F.Y.I. the Adobe Flash Player plugin for FireFox 2 does not place the XPT file proplery. (Kubuntu 7.10)
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> I got so many hd's i tend to just use  whole hd's not partitions. :)
[22:53] <mark_> ( installed the flash tar)
[22:53] <DrakeJustice_> mark_: xpt location was correct when firefox installed the plugin for me...
[22:54] <DrakeJustice_> mark_: oh... the tar
[22:54] <DrakeJustice_> mark_: gotcha...
[22:54] <nonewmsgs> yeah i hear you dr_willis.
[22:55] <dave> whats a good player for asx files
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a .asx file
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> vlc. mplayer, xine,
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> may do it.
[22:57] <dave> windows streaming
[22:57] <RytmenPinnen> when I'm closing a dolphin window its complaining about not having permission to save bookmarks in /home/alex/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/
[22:57] <dave> drwillis,thanks
[22:58] <mark_> F.Y.I. Kubuntu is the nicest distro I've ever loaded.
[22:58] <mark_> really
[22:58] <mark_> good job whoever ....
[22:58] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: sudo chown -R `whoami` /home/alex/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/
[22:58] <nonewmsgs> oh i have another question.  i have a computer where multiple people have to change files.  i made a /home/shared and made it rw for everyone.  is that the best way?
[22:59] <mark_> make it r/w for a group
[22:59] <ardchoille> yeah, and then add folks to that group
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> yea thats what groups are for.. But i dont understand groups. :) heh
[22:59] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: lol
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> http://www.thinkgos.com/about.html    - yet another ubuntu spinoff :)
[23:00] <RytmenPinnen> ah, good, may I now ask how I make konqueror default?
[23:00] <mark_> .... as oppoesed to each user
[23:00] <nonewmsgs> yeah that's what i did. it made sense to me, bt i was a little surprised it wasn't easier.  (heh - this distro must have really spoiled me, eh?)
[23:00] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: I'll walk you thru that. Open kcontrol
[23:01] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: nice call... i've been channel raped for touting chmod -R before...
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> Lets see..
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> !konqueror
[23:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Theres a factoid on it. some where
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> You set the default file assocation for the inode/directory  item I belive
[23:01] <RytmenPinnen> ardchoille: k this is a stupid question but where has kcontrol gone in gutsy? :o
[23:02] <tiltationaa> Dr_Willis:    i have wrote kubuntu-restricted-extras on Kpackage and i found nothing
[23:02] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: alt+f2, type in kcontrol
[23:02] <RytmenPinnen> ah k
[23:02] <DrakeJustice_> add the kcontrol 'settings' applet to the kicker real fast
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> tiltationaa  you may not have the right repositories enabled.
[23:02] <DrakeJustice_> it's under KDE components
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:02] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> tiltationaa you are using The latest Gutsy release?
[23:03] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: in kcontrol, click KDE Components > File Associations
[23:03] <tiltationaa> gutsy?
[23:03] <RytmenPinnen> yes
[23:03] <mark_> bye
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !gutsy
[23:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> Gutsy = 7.10
[23:04] <RytmenPinnen> k, ardchoille I got it
[23:04] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: In the Known Types, click inode > directory
[23:04] <RytmenPinnen> yes I got that too :)
[23:05] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: Over on the right, move konqueror above dolphin
[23:05] <RytmenPinnen> my biggest problem was actually finding kcontrol :)
[23:05] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: Do the same for "system_directory"
[23:05] <tiltationaa> how can i know wich version i have?
[23:05] <RytmenPinnen> k
[23:05] <ardchoille> tiltationaa: in a terminal, type: lsb_release -a
[23:05] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: You're done :) Konq is now your default file manager
[23:06] <tiltationaa> 7.04 ...
[23:06] <ardchoille> That's Feisty
[23:07] <RytmenPinnen> why isnt kcontrol defualt in the kmenu?
[23:08] <morbid> how can I widen my repositories? are there any most updated favourite urls that I can manually add?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> i though kcontrol was getting phased out
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !easysource
[23:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[23:08] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: because it's being phased out, in kde4 is gone completely
[23:08] <RytmenPinnen> oh why :o ? is something gonna replace it?
[23:09] <|neon|> ne1 using TORK not TOR with gutsy
[23:09] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: System Settings :(
[23:09] <tiltationaa> there is no patch for version 7.04 to 7.10 ? i need to download the full version again?
[23:09] <RytmenPinnen> :O why? you can't do half in system settings of what you can in kcontrol
[23:09] <ardchoille> !upgrade | tiltationaa
[23:09] <ubotu> tiltationaa: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:10] <ardchoille> RytmenPinnen: heh, I totally agree with you
[23:10] <|neon|> i tried automatix to install just few thing and hosed my sys :(
[23:10] <ardchoille> but I'm not a kde dev
[23:10] <Exploit> can someone help me with the installation introdction of java?
[23:10] <hdevalence> hey, I want to play around with the kde4 api, but I can't get the "hello world" tutorial from kde techbase to compile
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> !gutsy
[23:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> Note the 'Upgrading to Gutsy' link. :)
[23:11] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: Ah, never noticed that link
[23:11] <ardchoille> |neon|: Time to reinstall
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> That was for tiltationaa :)
[23:11] <|neon|> ardchoille: just did
[23:11] <|neon|> haha
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> !java
[23:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[23:12] <ardchoille> |neon|: Now you know what not to use :)
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> That factoid is out of date. :()
[23:12] <marie_> hey there
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu-restricted-extras (In gutsy) includes java
[23:12] <|neon|> ardchoille: now i know :)
[23:12] <marie_> i have a sound issu with my PC
[23:13] <marie_> lspci give audio device :Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:13] <Exploit> the java introduction is out of date?
[23:13] <tiltationaa> the update is the same for ubuntu and kubuntu?
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> the bots factoid is a bit  out of date.
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> tiltationaa should be,
[23:14] <Exploit> i have kubunto 7.04
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> i always do a clean install.  :)
[23:14] <Exploit> i need java for my programming lesson (school) on wednesday
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. E
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> actually its sun-java6-jre now I think
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> !find sun-java
[23:15] <ubotu> Found: sun-java5-bin, sun-java5-demo, sun-java5-doc, sun-java5-fonts, sun-java5-jdk (and 12 others)
[23:15] <Exploit> yes, java 6 is the newes one
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> !find sun-java6
[23:15] <ubotu> Found: sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-demo, sun-java6-doc, sun-java6-fonts, sun-java6-javadb (and 4 others)
[23:15] <tiltationaa> sorry again but what is the update manager On kubuntu?
[23:16] <Exploit> the website i got said following: you will need to add "multiverse" to the existing main line in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[23:16] <Exploit> what is this multiverse?
[23:18] <Exploit> i dont understand the installation guide :(
[23:18] <tiltationaa> i found it
[23:19] <marie_> anybosy can help me for a sound problrm?
[23:19] <marie_> problem*
[23:19] <Exploit> marie_ whats wrong with your sound?
[23:20] <marie_> Exploit: hehe all is wrong i have no sound at all
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> !multiverse
[23:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> !repo
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> packages live in 'repositories' sorted into universe, multiverse, and a few other 'sections'
[23:21] <livingdaylight> kubuntu recognizes when i put a blank cd in tray; k3b however doesn't. It checks iso sum but ican't burn it to cd and dialog keps saying place en empty cd when its blatantly sitting there already
[23:21] <marie_> Exploit: lspci give that Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:21] <marie_> Exploit: im using gutsy
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight ive heard of others with similer issue.
[23:22] <Exploit> marie_: hmm did you update your audio-drivers?
[23:22] <marie_> Exploit: no how can you do that?
[23:22] <Exploit> do you use alsa?
[23:22] <marie_> hum not really
[23:22] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i'm soo confused :/
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight you are about the 4th person ive seen mention k3b and other apps not seeing the cds when burning
[23:23] <Exploit> marie_: i am not a pro, but had somle problems too. Someone from #alsa said the first thing to do is updating your sound-drivers
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight ive not had any issues on this box . on my other machine. it sees/burns cd's then has issues  even tho it burns them right.
[23:23] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: its reassuring, in weird sort of way, that i'm not the only one, though i don't know what to do. Deos this prove my system is goofy and find a nother clean cd of kubuntu or put it down to k3b only
[23:24] <marie_> Exploit: and how you update that?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight i would say check the forums. see if any others have some sort of info/fix's - i havent heard of any fix's but havent looked into the problem much
[23:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i thought kubuntu was serious os
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight go ask for a refund then.. i dont care what ya do. :)
[23:24] <Exploit> marie_: i think it's different. If you use ALSA ask in #alsa, while using other drivers, try your luck in their channels :)
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight you dont want to get me started on the issues ive had with Windows This week.,
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> and its 'supposed' to be a serious os also.
[23:25] <marie_> Exploit: kk thx for your help
[23:25] <Exploit> marie_: you're welcome :)
[23:25] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i don't know if this is a kubuntu issue or if it is a gutsy issue, but feisty seemed much more stable...
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if its not some problem with the 'auto-mounting' stuff getting in the way of k3b.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight could try a light window manager like 'jwm' and run k3b manually
[23:26] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i don't mean to get you started on windows, no doubt you've had issues if you say so, but for my part i have xp on a laptop and no complaints, none!
[23:27] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: or try a differnt burner? brasero? gnomebaker?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> Windows is good when it works.. but whenit breaks - its next to impossible to fix. Linux at least lets ya get under the hood.
[23:27] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: and mac?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight for those what want 'style over substance' :)
[23:28] <Exploit> Dr_Willis: the website about multiverse said that multiverse means "non-free"... is this free in direction of "freedome" (--> free software) or "no-no costs" (you have to pay)?
[23:28] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: seems to work though, or do they have these issues too?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> Exploit its free as in the licensing type stuff GPL  -  I know of no 'pay' repositories
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight Ive had issues with APples as well.
[23:29] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i agree about being at least being able to fix in Linux, but that is if one knows how to get under the hood and knows what to do. I don't, and you don't want to be going under people's linux's hoods all day either do you?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> comput4ers and os's are so complex - its amazing they work at all.. Thenpeople expect the PC to have ESP as well. :)
[23:29] <Exploit> Dr_Willis: thank you. GPL is the greatest thing i ever heared of (and lived with.. of course)  :)
[23:29] <mark_> BUG: kubuntu 7.10 open folder as root icon opens windows for each file and subdirectory
[23:30] <mark_> ( about 50 ! )
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight ive rarely had to do much with linux. In fact its gottn now on a cleqn/new install of the OS. Kubuntu vs XP. I do MUCH less work after the install  of Kubuntu to get it working how i want.
[23:30] <mark_> kubuntu rox
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu now even sees my printer automaticially :)
[23:30] <Exploit> Dr_Willis: That means the sourcecode of java is not public. thats okay than :)
[23:30] <mark_> anyone interested in the bug I found ?
[23:30] <morbid> Why can't I run "ntfs-progs" wh
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> Exploit sun just recenely did somthign with the licening of it.. I dont keep up with it however.
[23:31] <morbid> while it was already installed
[23:31] <mark_> BUG: kubuntu 7.10 open folder as root icon opens windows for each file and subdirectory
[23:31] <mark_> bye all
[23:31] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: but for k3b not to work -  a core and default kde /kubuntu app is strange; ofcourse i recognize the positives and where linux has improved in hardware detection and so on
[23:31] <Exploit> Dr_Willis: my guid said i have to add something to my /etc/apt/sources.list for java... but what do i have to add?
[23:32] <livingdaylight> is there an alternative to k3b i can try?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Exploit you shouldent have to ad anything I thoiught.  it may need 'multiverse' enabled. And thats enableable from the package manager tools
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> !find java6-jre
[23:32] <ubotu> Found: sun-java6-jre
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> !info sun-java6-jre
[23:32] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 6179 kB, installed size 14168 kB
[23:32] <Exploit> so it is already enabled? How may i check it?
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> try an 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre'
[23:33] <Exploit> is it the complete java package with compiler and stuff like that?
[23:34] <Exploit> (command would work)
[23:34] <livingdaylight> anyone know if there is an alternative to k3b?
[23:35] <tiltationaa> Dr_Willis:  it is normal for the 15 minutes waiting after the downloading and verifying the upgrade tool?
[23:35] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, for burning what ?
[23:36] <morbid> I installed the package ntfsprogs, but when I try to tun, nothing happens
[23:36] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: iso k3b is broken
[23:37] <BluesKaj> try kiso
[23:37] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: preferable to gnomebaker or brasero?
[23:38] <BluesKaj> dunno, never tried 'em
[23:38] <livingdaylight> but you tried kiso?
[23:38] <BluesKaj> yup
[23:38] <livingdaylight> thx
[23:39] <BluesKaj> k3b iso seems ok on my setup
[23:39] <ardchoille> Seems ok here too
[23:40] <livingdaylight> well, k3b is not ok here, and i am not the only one apparently
[23:40] <mike-kubuntu> i'm trying to set up a mediawiki but whenever i link the directory to /var/www/ it says i do not have permission to access /mediawiki/ on this server, when i go to configure it. even if its permissions are 777
[23:40] <mike-kubuntu> whats going on?
[23:40] <BluesKaj> kiso uses k3b for burning iso files
[23:40] <landley> Knetworkmanager is still broken for me.
[23:41] <amundsen> hi
[23:41] <landley> I tried going into the network config dialog and disabling/enabling eth0 and eth1
[23:41] <mike-kubuntu> amundsen: did you used to teach at bod?
[23:41] <landley> And that made them show up in /etc/network/interfaces, but knetworkmanager hasn't noticed yet.
[23:41] <landley> Neither has Konqueror.  I had to install firefox to use the web, Konqueror insists I haven't got a network connection.
[23:42] <amundsen> does anybody know how to solve the kde resolution problem ?
[23:42] <ardchoille> amundsen: What problem?
[23:42] <landley> Last night somebody here suggested I do a dbus restart.
[23:42] <landley> Never do a dbus restart on a system running from battery power.
[23:42] <landley> It makes it think your battery has been yanked.
[23:43] <landley> It gets...  unhappy.
[23:43] <landley> Oh, and the "submit bug report" dialog doesn't work.
[23:43] <amundsen> ardchoille: i can change the kde desktop resolution, but this doesn't seem to afect to kdm
[23:43] <landley> My email server needs me to supply a specific domain name in order for outgoing mail to be accepted.
[23:44] <landley> I told kmail about that, but the submit bug report dialog has its own email config thing that doesn't let me do that.
[23:44] <landley> And I crashed Konsole this morning.
[23:44] <landley> If your system's running really slow because you're untarring lots of backups and have the hard drive maxed out writing, so there are arbitrary 20 second delays doing anything...
[23:44] <ardchoille> amundsen: Well, yes, chaning the resolution in kde only changes it for kde
[23:45] <landley> And you right click to close a Konsole tab, and then 10 seconds later right click and close that tab again...
[23:45] <landley> And both close events go through once the delay is up...
[23:45] <landley> Konsole crashes.
[23:45] <amundsen> ardchoille: i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:45] <landley> I also crashed kmail this morning, but A) that's nothing unusual, B) I can't reproduce that one.
[23:46] <landley> Oh, and sometimes when I mouse click, the click doesn't go through until I move the mouse.
[23:46] <landley> This is highly noticeable on a touchpad.
[23:46] <livingdaylight> BluesKaj: kiso just keeps crashing and uses k3b to burn anyway, right?
[23:46] <BluesKaj> yup
[23:46] <landley> I think it's related to the way the mouse sometimes gets stuck down when I'm clicking a scroll bar or something, and it decides to zoom to the end of the document.
[23:47] <landley> On the whole, not an upgrade that's made me particularly happy so far.
[23:47] <BluesKaj> livingdaylight, what kind of ISO are you trying to burn ?
[23:47] <ardchoille> amundsen: Tried this?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/how-to-change-kdm-resolution-508587/
[23:48] <livingdaylight> an iso kind of iso
[23:48] <BluesKaj> video , audio, data ?
[23:49] <amundsen> ardchoille: of course ...
[23:49] <livingdaylight> what difference does it make?
[23:49] <Exploit> ah... is it possible to install .jar files?
[23:49] <landley> Does knetworkmanager work in 7.10 on x86-64 for anybody else?
[23:50] <ardchoille> amundsen: And after changing the kdm resolution, did you restart kdm?
[23:50] <nonewmsgs> if im using ifo to read ext3 in windows anyway, is there any reason to use FAT for drives i want to share data between
[23:51] <lespea> Exploit: java -jar {jar ackage} ???
[23:52] <lespea> nonewmsgs: you can read ext2/3 partitions in windows!!!
[23:52] <lespea> nonewmsgs: lol i'm retarded
[23:52] <Exploit> http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html the one for other machines (executable java files)
[23:52] <lespea> nonewmsgs: pay no attention
[23:52] <landley> How do I get Konqueror to tell me _why_ it won't use the network connection that works fine for firefox/konversation/kmail?
[23:52] <nonewmsgs> we all have our moments lespea
[23:56] <|neon|> is tere a good read on how to multiple desktops, thx
[23:56] <lespea> nonewmsgs: :P
[23:57] <Exploit> lespea: http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html the one for other machines (executable java files)
[23:57] <nonewmsgs> but is there any reason why not to just use ext3
[23:57] <Exploit> can i install this file?
[23:58] <mike-kubuntu> guys, what is going on here
[23:58] <lespea> yeah just type 'java -jar {filename}' in the console
[23:58] <lespea> should work
[23:58] <mike-kubuntu> i cant add a directory to /var/www/ without not bieng ble to access it via the web
[23:58] <mike-kubuntu> it makes no sense
[23:58] <eljefe_> |neon|: how to do what? with multiple desktops?
[23:59] <Exploit> lespea: thank you :)
[23:59] <lespea> Exploit: :)
[23:59] <mike-kubuntu> i've always sym linked directories into var/www/ and had them show up on the web, and there are some done like that right now that are working, why isnt a new one doing anything?
[23:59] <mike-kubuntu> it says i don't have access to it
[23:59] <mike-kubuntu> but the permissions are 777 and +x and i chowned it to my normal user