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TheSheeptis is not #xubuntu-meta00:00
TheSheepgerro: you are angry, that's not a good mood for resolving this00:00
gerroI'm not really angry00:02
TheSheepgerro: the ops are, let it coold down00:02
sjefen6Is there some problems with the terminal? mine just geives a black screen and then the loggin screen.00:51
somerville32That is a known bug.00:52
sjefen6oki :) can I provide info to help it be solved? or maybe that is not for the first timers :P00:53
somerville32If you'd like. Just search for the bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net00:54
sjefen6oki :)00:54
somerville32Thanks! :)00:57
Mr_Gerbikany ideas on how I could put excess memory to good use with only minimal cpu usage?01:00
sjefen6so http://www.ntop.org/download.html will be hard to do at the moment in xubuntu?01:10
somerville32!info ntop01:11
ubotuntop: display network usage in top-like format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.2-10.1 (gutsy), package size 2707 kB, installed size 11172 kB01:11
sjefen6so it is available in the pacage manager?01:12
somerville32Yup01:12
somerville32TheSheep, ping01:23
gerrowhat is #xubuntu-meta?01:33
gerroumm nvm01:34
gerrosomerville32: sup01:34
somerville32gerro, n2m01:34
gerrosomerville32: ah ntop I was just checking that out earlier01:35
gerrowasn't really what I was looking for though not like top at all01:35
gerrohtop is pretty nice though01:36
gerrosomerville32: just wanted to say thx for that pm earlier01:37
somerville32gerro, No problem.01:37
sjefen6but if I use a linux box with it as an point where all my lan to internet trafic goes through. I will be able to see witch computer is accessing the internet and eating up my bandwith?01:38
gerrowow just grabbed ntop off apt and tried running it, all sorts of errors lol. I better read the manual or something01:39
sjefen6hehe, ok... tried a vmware virual appliance with it and it looked nice. but there was no good way to get it on to physiacal hardware01:41
gerrosjefen6: I know everything looks nice until you find you don't have the specs to run it01:44
gerrosjefen6: what sort of topology you working with anyway?01:45
sjefen6nothing big... just 5 fellow students. we are trying to shere a internet connection, but someone seems to be sucing up the bandwith01:50
gerrowhat sort of queueing mechanism you working with on your current gateway?01:51
sjefen6I do not know.01:51
sjefen6are you meaning externaly? like pppoe?01:53
gerrosjefen6: no I mean you should have some sort of queuing method so that certain services or users don't take up all the bandwidth01:54
gerroI mean if you've been having problems so far01:55
sjefen6yeah... but I have not found anyone...01:55
gerrolike fifo, wfq, priority, custom few I heard of before on routers01:56
gerrothink I forgot to mention a few there01:56
sjefen6none of them are supported on my router... and I have seen through my router and it have none queueing mechanism that I have seen01:58
gerrowhat sort of device are you working with? perhaps you should try checking into different firmware01:58
gerroare you trying to setup ubuntu to act as a firewall server?01:58
sjefen6thompson st54601:58
sjefen6no, just monitor who uses the the bandwith and unplug them :P01:59
gerrooh do you pay per amount of bandwidth consumed?02:00
sjefen6no, but see who uses all our bandwith02:01
gerroisp bandwidth total cap?02:02
sjefen6yeah. 16 mbit/ 700 kbit02:02
gerrono I meant do you have a limit on how much you upload or download over a given time02:03
sjefen6no, but when someone are seeding torrents or whatever with 700 kbit upload. there is very litle left to us others02:04
gerrosjefen6: anyway if your experiencing odd lag on certain services while network is in heavy use might want to check into using some sort of queueing.02:05
sjefen6yeah, or just unplug the one that is abusing the connection.. if i could find him/her..02:06
gerrohmm from what I've seen on your router it might have some sort of port based options, think torrenting is normally done on 6000 or so port02:07
Mr_Gerbikwould a packet sniffer help you find the culprit?02:08
gerroI don't see really how that is abusing a connection, you might to just consider if blocking such services would be in the best interest02:08
sjefen6yeah. and that is what ntop does02:08
sjefen6do i think :P02:08
gerroMr_Gerbik: probably not seeing as it isn't himself02:08
gerroanyway I'm confused lol, sjefen6: good luck with whatever it is your doing02:09
sjefen6thats why I am leading all the trafic through the linux box with a sniffer02:09
sjefen6gerro: tnx02:10
gerrosjefen6: if you want a good network sniffer though I would recommend wireshark02:10
gerroI mean if this is just a temporary thing02:10
sjefen6somerville32: I can't find it in Add/Remove Applications in xubuntu 7.1002:16
somerville32sjefen6, Click the drop down menu and select show all applications or something like that02:18
sjefen6All Available applications, still nothing :(02:19
somerville32Do you have universe enabled in software sources?02:19
sjefen6not if it is not a default02:21
somerville32Please check :)02:21
sjefen6is it in the Third Party Software tab?02:22
somerville32Nope02:22
somerville32somerville32, how did you get this theme installed in the first place?02:23
sjefen6where do I find it?02:24
sjefen6found. It was not in the add/Remove. It was in Synaptic Pacage Manager02:36
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The-Kernelwhat's the command to clean out the apt-get archive?06:15
The-KernelI got it06:18
The-Kernelapt-get clean :P06:18
rhavennswitched from BSD to xubuntu for some app support..trying to get sound working so that arts and regulae sound play nice..under BSD you just setup some virtual channels and assign arts to one of those..is there a same thing for linux?07:23
Pumpernickelrhavenn: Something similar might be possible, layering artsd over pulseaudio. http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup08:09
RandyboYWhere do i set the master volume on my xubuntu?09:12
s|kRandyboY: alsamixer09:13
s|kopen up a terminal and type 'alsamixer'09:13
RandyboYThanks :)09:15
s|knp09:15
s|kthere's probably a sucky way to do it via the gui09:15
RandyboYIs there no other way to do it? It worked, but i curious09:15
RandyboYhehe09:16
RandyboYyeah09:16
s|kI recommend using alsamixer09:16
s|kit works.09:16
s|kbut I think you can add a volume control to your deskbar applet09:16
s|kjust right click on it09:16
s|kand add the volume control09:16
s|kit's in that list09:17
RandyboYgreat, now i have that too :)09:18
RandyboYthanks again09:19
s|knp09:20
RivaeAerya(10:31:49) RivaeAerya: Can xfce do everything GNOME can and does it fully integrate with Ubuntu?09:33
RivaeAerya(10:32:41) RivaeAerya: for example, i've had problems with Kubuntu, it was not very well supported and it was less worked on than Ubutnu09:33
s|k:/10:03
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nixnubehmmm it's so quite10:21
arijithyper__ch: Hi this is arin10:34
hyper__charijit: hi10:34
arijithyper__ch: Today I am in office but the xubuntu box is locked up10:34
hyper__charijit: ?10:34
arijithyper__ch: Can not access it before monday :-(10:35
arijithyper__ch: We talked about the OpenOffice menu issue in xubuntu earlier10:35
hyper__charijit: I know10:35
arijithyper__ch: I think instead of "ooffice -writer" I should try to put "swriter" in the menu10:36
hyper__cheither swriter or "oofice-writer OPTIONS"10:38
hyper__chwith the quotes around it10:38
arijithyper__ch: yep10:38
hyper__charijit: it's up to you10:38
arijithyper__ch: Yes10:39
braindual monitor solutions? anyone?10:45
hyper__chbrain: get two computers10:46
hyper__chbrain: ;)10:46
brainnot an option10:47
brainanthing equivelent of say ULTRAMON?10:48
Mark76Anyone here want to talk me through gaining permission to read and write to a partition I mysteriously don't have permission to read and write to, even though it's on my own bloody hard drive?10:48
Mark76On my own sodding computer10:48
Pumpernickel!xinerama | brain10:51
ubotubrain: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead10:51
PumpernickelMark76: Umasks for a permissions problem, ntfs-3g if it's ntfs.10:52
brainand it works in ubuntu 7.10 amd64?10:52
Mark76I typed umask into a terminal and got 002210:53
braini also got 002210:55
brainwhat does that mean?10:55
Mark76Hoe cryptic10:55
Mark76How10:56
brainhow do i encrypt?10:57
Mark76No10:58
Mark76I have a terminal open10:59
Mark76What are the magic words?10:59
Mark76Please10:59
brainpretty please whith a cherry10:59
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Mark76Is it sudo give-me-permission-to use-my-own-bloody-partition-you-bastard?11:05
Mark76Christ, GParted is frakking useless11:13
s|kfdisk rocks11:14
Mark76If I can't use the fugging thing I might as well delete it I can't even do that11:14
hyper__ch!language | Mark7611:14
ubotuMark76: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.11:14
Mark76THEN TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW11:15
Mark76NOW11:15
hyper__ch!shout | Mark7611:15
ubotuMark76: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.11:15
s|kjust kick that guy11:15
Mark76The for God's sake stop with the silence11:15
s|kMark76: you're not getting any help from me tbh11:16
s|k:|11:16
Mark76Like I care11:16
s|kjust leave11:16
Mark76No11:16
s|k!ops11:16
ubotuHelp! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso,  PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak11:16
Mark76None of the controls in GParted work11:17
Mark76It's not fair :'(11:18
Mark76It's also not fair that you've been ignoring me even before I lost my temper11:21
Mark76Surely it's a routine problem that's easily solved11:21
hyper__chif it's easily solved you could google11:22
Mark76And what exactly am I meant to ask?11:23
s|khyper__ch: why bother11:23
Mark76WHatever11:25
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AdamskaHello, when i click on a link outside the firefox window and on a different workspace firefox automaticaly switch to the curent workspace and steal the focus of the curent window. I'd like to disable it. Do you know how to do that?12:23
TheSheepAdamska: yes12:24
Adamskacurrent*12:24
AdamskaTheSheep ?12:24
TheSheepAdamska: http://sheep.art.pl/2007-09-08_Firefox_jumping_between_workspaces_in_XFCE12:24
Adamskathanks ;)12:25
TheSheepI have it set to 'switch' and I like it12:25
hyper__chis anyone using tracker?12:34
ManaPirathi there12:40
ManaPiratmy mom got xubuntu installed but would rather like to use gnome (switch to ubuntu) but there is no "ubuntu-desktop" packet in synaptic - she uses 7.10 - how could she install gnome?12:41
TheSheep!info ubuntu-desktop12:43
ubotuubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.79 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 48 kB12:43
TheSheepManaPirat: look more closely, it must be here12:43
ManaPiratshe searched for "ubuntu-desktop" but only "xubuntu-desktop" shows up :-/ what else could she search for?12:44
ManaPiratwell, we try again12:44
TheSheepManaPirat: check for spelling errors12:45
ManaPiratok :)12:45
ManaPiratwe checked - it serached in titel and description - only xubuntu marked as installed is there12:45
TheSheepManaPirat: of course12:46
TheSheepManaPirat: ybuntu-desktop is not installed yet if you installed xubuntu12:46
TheSheepubuntu12:46
ManaPiratybuntu?12:46
ManaPiratbut we want to imstall it12:46
TheSheepsorry, getting used to new keyboard12:46
ManaPiratand it is not mentioened in the list12:46
TheSheepthen look for it in packages that are not installed yet12:47
ManaPirathow do i do that?12:48
ManaPirati see alot of packes that are not installed ;) ubuntu-desktop is not among them12:49
TheSheepManaPirat: do you have the network repositories enabled?12:49
ManaPiratthat might be an idea :) - i have to check it in paket-sources?12:49
TheSheepyes12:50
ManaPiratah those were not checked for her e:D12:51
ManaPiratyeha she got it :)12:53
ManaPiratthank you very12:55
ManaPiratmuch :D12:55
TheSheep:)12:56
joakim_Hey. My X didnot start up properly last time. Then I got it up and I reinstalled nVidia drivers, but now all may desktop icon texts and meny texts and programs text are so little that it is unreadable. I cannot to anything with my Xubuntu. How can i solve the problem?13:55
TheSheepjoakim_: set your dpi in xorg.conf13:56
TheSheepjoakim_: aparently the nvidia drivers failed to get he dpi from your monitor properly13:57
joakim_I'll try13:58
MatBoyTheSheep, what are you doing here ?14:40
hyper___chMatBoy: mostly support14:47
MatBoyhyper___ch, I know... just joking him :)O14:48
MatBoylife must be a laugh sometimes14:48
hyper___chMatBoy: life is serious ;)14:48
MatBoyhyper___ch, also14:48
MatBoynever laughed is never lived14:49
MatBoyow we are offtopic :)14:49
hyper___chnot we, you are ;)14:49
somerville32TheSheep, Could you make a icon for xfce4-taskmanager?15:10
somerville32*an15:10
TheSheepsomerville32: I can try. what would it be?15:16
somerville32TheSheep, I'm not sure.15:18
somerville32TheSheep, Be creative? lol15:18
TheSheepsigh15:18
somerville32Even if you could find something in the icon set we use already so that I can just modify the desktop file would be great.15:19
TheSheepsomerville32: the system-monitor icon?15:24
somerville32Weird.15:25
somerville32I modified the desktop file and ran update-desktop-database but it still shows no icon in the menu.15:26
TheSheepbtw, is the xfce4-task-manager really needed when there is the gnome-system-monitor installed by default?15:26
somerville32It doesn't show up in my menu.15:27
TheSheepsomerville32: in system15:28
somerville32cody-somerville@veracity:/usr/share/applications$ gnome-system-monitor15:29
somerville32The program 'gnome-system-monitor' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:15:29
somerville32sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor15:29
somerville32bash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found15:29
TheSheepweird15:30
TheSheepwonder why I have it installed15:30
TheSheephmm... logs says it installed with the whole system15:33
TheSheepsomerville32: you have a fresh gutsy?15:33
somerville32No15:33
somerville32It might be because it is recommended and not dependent15:33
TheSheepit's still installed by default15:34
somerville32There might be another application installed that caused it not to be15:34
F4tal-49Hello together16:18
somerville32:)16:33
samushkahow do i set my font size to 96dpi in xubuntu ?16:33
* somerville32 forgets.16:36
MatBoyTheSheep, still here ?16:38
TheSheepMatBoy: yes17:19
Tmobhi, can i somehow install xubuntu even tough i installed ubuntu?17:31
Tmobi dont like gnome17:31
Tmoblaptop is too slow17:31
somerville32Yup17:31
somerville32Install the xubuntu-desktop package :)17:32
Tmobah great.. how do i make X start with that though?17:32
Tmoband i have xserver-xgl.. do i have to disable it?17:32
somerville32You click "sessions" before you login and select Xfce417:33
somerville32And I do not believe you need to disable xserver-xgl17:33
somerville32But it might make it faster if you do?17:33
Tmobsomerville32, oh ic.. do you nkow how to disable xserver-xgl?17:34
somerville32No, I do not.17:34
somerville32:)17:34
Tmobheh ok.. np. thanks !17:36
somerville32Awesome! :)17:37
somerville32Hopefully you'll hang out with us here!17:37
Tmobheh.. sure17:37
Bassettshi, i was given a link in here to the mini.iso but lost it, can anyone help me out?18:03
TheSheep!install18:08
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:08
TheSheepBassetts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:09
Bassettsthanks18:09
zeroflaganything I should watch out for when I want to use compiz with xfce?19:22
somerville32zeroflag, I don't think so.19:37
somerville32I think compiz actually replaces the xfce4 window manager.19:37
sookican someone tell me how to turn on compizfusion in xubuntu gutsy? :P19:40
totalnoodlesfacesooki: system -> prefs -> appearence -> visual effects19:43
Carnage\I just downloaded the newest Xubuntu-LiveCD and it doesn't do bash completion for example for "sudo apt-get install <TAB>"19:44
Carnage\How can I enable that?19:44
sookii actually don't have a preference thing under system19:44
totalnoodlesfacesooki: ah wait, this is #xubuntu19:45
totalnoodlesfacesorry :P19:45
sookii do have the compiz manager installed, "advanced desktop effects settings", it has the plugins i previously used under fiesty still checked, but compiz doesn't appear to be running19:45
totalnoodlesfacei guess the answer will be on the forums19:46
sookii stopped using it under fiesty, but never uninstalled before the gutsy upgrade19:46
totalnoodlesfacei havent run compiz on xfce yet19:46
sookihmm19:47
s|kwhat's the command to see if I have a packaged installed or not?19:54
jess^^my laptop function keys (brightness etc) don't work. What am I missing?19:56
zeroflaghow do I get compiz to autostart?20:44
zeroflagI always have to run the config tool to start compiz...20:44
somerville32Add it to the autostart in applications>settings ?20:45
zeroflagreally? Oo20:45
zeroflagthat's stupid. >_<20:45
somerville32File a bug! :)20:49
quittthi20:59
quitttI want to know how can I personalise my own menu!21:00
quitttI had some application that have to be add manually... like Netscape 9 or Quake III Arena21:00
somerville32quittt, Unfortunately, xfce4-menu is not compliant with the desktop standard.21:00
somerville32You can add items outside of the system provided menu only.21:00
quitttsomerville32, so?21:01
quitttsomerville32, I had them added, and they are on Others now21:01
jess^^hey, my laptop brightness controls don't work in xfce... any ideas?21:01
somerville32quittt, So you've already personalised your menu?21:01
somerville32jess^^, Do they work in other desktop environments?21:02
quitttsomerville32, in Gnome? Yes... but I can't add my games in Jogos menu(Portuguese)21:02
jess^^somerville32, yes. in gnome.21:02
quitttsomerville32, and how do I change the themes?21:04
somerville32Applications > Settings > User interface21:04
quitttsomerville32, strange...21:05
quitttI did only find Window Manager21:06
quitttsomerville32, which is the command?21:06
somerville32Look for "User interface settings"21:06
quitttfound it21:06
quittt=]21:06
somerville32:)21:07
quitttsomerville32, it is not literally translated to portuguese21:07
somerville32Ah.21:07
somerville32quittt, You're welcome to help out with translations at translations.launchpad.net :)21:07
compu73rg33kis there anyway to install the distribution without using the installer?21:08
somerville32!install21:08
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate21:08
compu73rg33ki.e. can I somehow install the distribution onto an encrypted /root and /usr partition?21:08
compu73rg33kor do I have to instal lfirst, encrypt second?21:08
somerville32I'm not sure.21:09
somerville32I think you encrypt first.21:09
somerville32Not after.21:09
somerville32Like, both at once.21:09
crimsun_but it's so much more fun when you can't read your FS.21:09
compu73rg33kWell i've created the partitions and formatted them and then opened them with cryptsetup21:10
quitttthis thing is damn good21:11
quitttit is much lighter than Gnome21:11
quitttand it stills a desktop21:11
somerville32:)21:11
compu73rg33kand then in the prepare partitions install dialog, they're listed under /dev/mapper/home /dev/mapper/root /dev/mapper/usr and I change the mount points to /home / and /user and then I get a message21:12
quittthow can it be free?21:12
quitttsometimes I ask myself...21:12
compu73rg33k"the file system on /dev/mapper/root assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems use by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home,/media*,/usr;local, etc.) may be used without reformatting."21:12
quitttI'm going21:12
quitttbye21:12
somerville32bye21:12
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sjefen6Where do I find the Xfce Menu? (as decribed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102723/ )22:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 102723 in ubuntu "[Xubuntu Dapper] Terminal opened from root apps menu crashes" [Undecided,New]22:05
somerville32sjefen6, alt+F222:07
somerville32xfce4-menu22:07
sjefen6ok. tnx22:07
sjefen6crashes that too :(22:10
somerville32:/22:10
sjefen6is there a downgrader, to the previus version?22:11
somerville32!downgrad22:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about downgrad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:13
somerville32!downgrade22:13
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.22:13
somerville32Oh. :(22:13
lllllhi im using backtrack but i cant connect to internet with dsl anyone to help me?22:14
sjefen6somerville32: downloading the cd for it instead :P22:15
somerville32pppoeconf22:15
llllli try it but nothing change22:16
somerville32ifup eth0 ?22:17
lllllno i didn`t try this..22:17
lllllany other advice?22:17
lllllsomerville32 i try and nothing happen22:23
somerville32!pppoe | lllll22:24
ubotulllll: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE22:24
lllllthx22:31
evil_tech!offtopic23:21
ubotu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!23:21
somerville32evil_tech, ?23:23
evil_techyeah23:24
evil_techTheSheep: what did i do wrong that you are sicing ubotu on me?23:27
somerville32lol23:27
TheSheepevil_tech: it should have told you23:27
evil_techi dont understand what it said. all i did was ask it about the off topic channel23:28
TheSheepevil_tech: try /msg ubotu offtopic  :)23:28
evil_techoh sorry :-/23:33
TheSheepevil_tech: I only tell you to let you know you can do that23:34
TheSheepevil_tech: don't worry about it23:34

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