[00:00] tis is not #xubuntu-meta [00:00] gerro: you are angry, that's not a good mood for resolving this [00:02] I'm not really angry [00:02] gerro: the ops are, let it coold down [00:51] Is there some problems with the terminal? mine just geives a black screen and then the loggin screen. [00:52] That is a known bug. [00:53] oki :) can I provide info to help it be solved? or maybe that is not for the first timers :P [00:54] If you'd like. Just search for the bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net [00:54] oki :) [00:57] Thanks! :) [01:00] any ideas on how I could put excess memory to good use with only minimal cpu usage? [01:10] so http://www.ntop.org/download.html will be hard to do at the moment in xubuntu? [01:11] !info ntop [01:11] ntop: display network usage in top-like format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.2-10.1 (gutsy), package size 2707 kB, installed size 11172 kB [01:12] so it is available in the pacage manager? [01:12] Yup [01:23] TheSheep, ping [01:33] what is #xubuntu-meta? [01:34] umm nvm [01:34] somerville32: sup [01:34] gerro, n2m [01:35] somerville32: ah ntop I was just checking that out earlier [01:35] wasn't really what I was looking for though not like top at all [01:36] htop is pretty nice though [01:37] somerville32: just wanted to say thx for that pm earlier [01:37] gerro, No problem. [01:38] but if I use a linux box with it as an point where all my lan to internet trafic goes through. I will be able to see witch computer is accessing the internet and eating up my bandwith? [01:39] wow just grabbed ntop off apt and tried running it, all sorts of errors lol. I better read the manual or something [01:41] hehe, ok... tried a vmware virual appliance with it and it looked nice. but there was no good way to get it on to physiacal hardware [01:44] sjefen6: I know everything looks nice until you find you don't have the specs to run it [01:45] sjefen6: what sort of topology you working with anyway? [01:50] nothing big... just 5 fellow students. we are trying to shere a internet connection, but someone seems to be sucing up the bandwith [01:51] what sort of queueing mechanism you working with on your current gateway? [01:51] I do not know. [01:53] are you meaning externaly? like pppoe? [01:54] sjefen6: no I mean you should have some sort of queuing method so that certain services or users don't take up all the bandwidth [01:55] I mean if you've been having problems so far [01:55] yeah... but I have not found anyone... [01:56] like fifo, wfq, priority, custom few I heard of before on routers [01:56] think I forgot to mention a few there [01:58] none of them are supported on my router... and I have seen through my router and it have none queueing mechanism that I have seen [01:58] what sort of device are you working with? perhaps you should try checking into different firmware [01:58] are you trying to setup ubuntu to act as a firewall server? [01:58] thompson st546 [01:59] no, just monitor who uses the the bandwith and unplug them :P [02:00] oh do you pay per amount of bandwidth consumed? [02:01] no, but see who uses all our bandwith [02:02] isp bandwidth total cap? [02:02] yeah. 16 mbit/ 700 kbit [02:03] no I meant do you have a limit on how much you upload or download over a given time [02:04] no, but when someone are seeding torrents or whatever with 700 kbit upload. there is very litle left to us others [02:05] sjefen6: anyway if your experiencing odd lag on certain services while network is in heavy use might want to check into using some sort of queueing. [02:06] yeah, or just unplug the one that is abusing the connection.. if i could find him/her.. [02:07] hmm from what I've seen on your router it might have some sort of port based options, think torrenting is normally done on 6000 or so port [02:08] would a packet sniffer help you find the culprit? [02:08] I don't see really how that is abusing a connection, you might to just consider if blocking such services would be in the best interest [02:08] yeah. and that is what ntop does [02:08] do i think :P [02:08] Mr_Gerbik: probably not seeing as it isn't himself [02:09] anyway I'm confused lol, sjefen6: good luck with whatever it is your doing [02:09] thats why I am leading all the trafic through the linux box with a sniffer [02:10] gerro: tnx [02:10] sjefen6: if you want a good network sniffer though I would recommend wireshark [02:10] I mean if this is just a temporary thing [02:16] somerville32: I can't find it in Add/Remove Applications in xubuntu 7.10 [02:18] sjefen6, Click the drop down menu and select show all applications or something like that [02:19] All Available applications, still nothing :( [02:19] Do you have universe enabled in software sources? [02:21] not if it is not a default [02:21] Please check :) [02:22] is it in the Third Party Software tab? [02:22] Nope [02:23] somerville32, how did you get this theme installed in the first place? [02:24] where do I find it? [02:36] found. It was not in the add/Remove. It was in Synaptic Pacage Manager === The_Kernel is now known as The-Kernel === Kilro1 is now known as Kilroo [06:15] what's the command to clean out the apt-get archive? [06:18] I got it [06:18] apt-get clean :P [07:23] switched from BSD to xubuntu for some app support..trying to get sound working so that arts and regulae sound play nice..under BSD you just setup some virtual channels and assign arts to one of those..is there a same thing for linux? [08:09] rhavenn: Something similar might be possible, layering artsd over pulseaudio. http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup [09:12] Where do i set the master volume on my xubuntu? [09:13] RandyboY: alsamixer [09:13] open up a terminal and type 'alsamixer' [09:15] Thanks :) [09:15] np [09:15] there's probably a sucky way to do it via the gui [09:15] Is there no other way to do it? It worked, but i curious [09:16] hehe [09:16] yeah [09:16] I recommend using alsamixer [09:16] it works. [09:16] but I think you can add a volume control to your deskbar applet [09:16] just right click on it [09:16] and add the volume control [09:17] it's in that list [09:18] great, now i have that too :) [09:19] thanks again [09:20] np [09:33] (10:31:49) RivaeAerya: Can xfce do everything GNOME can and does it fully integrate with Ubuntu? [09:33] (10:32:41) RivaeAerya: for example, i've had problems with Kubuntu, it was not very well supported and it was less worked on than Ubutnu [10:03] :/ === nixnak is now known as nixnube [10:21] hmmm it's so quite [10:34] hyper__ch: Hi this is arin [10:34] arijit: hi [10:34] hyper__ch: Today I am in office but the xubuntu box is locked up [10:34] arijit: ? [10:35] hyper__ch: Can not access it before monday :-( [10:35] hyper__ch: We talked about the OpenOffice menu issue in xubuntu earlier [10:35] arijit: I know [10:36] hyper__ch: I think instead of "ooffice -writer" I should try to put "swriter" in the menu [10:38] either swriter or "oofice-writer OPTIONS" [10:38] with the quotes around it [10:38] hyper__ch: yep [10:38] arijit: it's up to you [10:39] hyper__ch: Yes [10:45] dual monitor solutions? anyone? [10:46] brain: get two computers [10:46] brain: ;) [10:47] not an option [10:48] anthing equivelent of say ULTRAMON? [10:48] Anyone here want to talk me through gaining permission to read and write to a partition I mysteriously don't have permission to read and write to, even though it's on my own bloody hard drive? [10:48] On my own sodding computer [10:51] !xinerama | brain [10:51] brain: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [10:52] Mark76: Umasks for a permissions problem, ntfs-3g if it's ntfs. [10:52] and it works in ubuntu 7.10 amd64? [10:53] I typed umask into a terminal and got 0022 [10:55] i also got 0022 [10:55] what does that mean? [10:55] Hoe cryptic [10:56] How [10:57] how do i encrypt? [10:58] No [10:59] I have a terminal open [10:59] What are the magic words? [10:59] Please [10:59] pretty please whith a cherry === brain is now known as hyabusa === hyabusa is now known as hyaBUSA [11:05] Is it sudo give-me-permission-to use-my-own-bloody-partition-you-bastard? [11:13] Christ, GParted is frakking useless [11:14] fdisk rocks [11:14] If I can't use the fugging thing I might as well delete it I can't even do that [11:14] !language | Mark76 [11:14] Mark76: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly. [11:15] THEN TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW [11:15] NOW [11:15] !shout | Mark76 [11:15] Mark76: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [11:15] just kick that guy [11:15] The for God's sake stop with the silence [11:16] Mark76: you're not getting any help from me tbh [11:16] :| [11:16] Like I care [11:16] just leave [11:16] No [11:16] !ops [11:16] Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak [11:17] None of the controls in GParted work [11:18] It's not fair :'( [11:21] It's also not fair that you've been ignoring me even before I lost my temper [11:21] Surely it's a routine problem that's easily solved [11:22] if it's easily solved you could google [11:23] And what exactly am I meant to ask? [11:23] hyper__ch: why bother [11:25] WHatever === hyaBUSA is now known as newb [12:23] Hello, when i click on a link outside the firefox window and on a different workspace firefox automaticaly switch to the curent workspace and steal the focus of the curent window. I'd like to disable it. Do you know how to do that? [12:24] Adamska: yes [12:24] current* [12:24] TheSheep ? [12:24] Adamska: http://sheep.art.pl/2007-09-08_Firefox_jumping_between_workspaces_in_XFCE [12:25] thanks ;) [12:25] I have it set to 'switch' and I like it [12:34] is anyone using tracker? [12:40] hi there [12:41] my mom got xubuntu installed but would rather like to use gnome (switch to ubuntu) but there is no "ubuntu-desktop" packet in synaptic - she uses 7.10 - how could she install gnome? [12:43] !info ubuntu-desktop [12:43] ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.79 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 48 kB [12:43] ManaPirat: look more closely, it must be here [12:44] she searched for "ubuntu-desktop" but only "xubuntu-desktop" shows up :-/ what else could she search for? [12:44] well, we try again [12:45] ManaPirat: check for spelling errors [12:45] ok :) [12:45] we checked - it serached in titel and description - only xubuntu marked as installed is there [12:46] ManaPirat: of course [12:46] ManaPirat: ybuntu-desktop is not installed yet if you installed xubuntu [12:46] ubuntu [12:46] ybuntu? [12:46] but we want to imstall it [12:46] sorry, getting used to new keyboard [12:46] and it is not mentioened in the list [12:47] then look for it in packages that are not installed yet [12:48] how do i do that? [12:49] i see alot of packes that are not installed ;) ubuntu-desktop is not among them [12:49] ManaPirat: do you have the network repositories enabled? [12:49] that might be an idea :) - i have to check it in paket-sources? [12:50] yes [12:51] ah those were not checked for her e:D [12:53] yeha she got it :) [12:55] thank you very [12:55] much :D [12:56] :) [13:55] Hey. My X didnot start up properly last time. Then I got it up and I reinstalled nVidia drivers, but now all may desktop icon texts and meny texts and programs text are so little that it is unreadable. I cannot to anything with my Xubuntu. How can i solve the problem? [13:56] joakim_: set your dpi in xorg.conf [13:57] joakim_: aparently the nvidia drivers failed to get he dpi from your monitor properly [13:58] I'll try [14:40] TheSheep, what are you doing here ? [14:47] MatBoy: mostly support [14:48] hyper___ch, I know... just joking him :)O [14:48] life must be a laugh sometimes [14:48] MatBoy: life is serious ;) [14:48] hyper___ch, also [14:49] never laughed is never lived [14:49] ow we are offtopic :) [14:49] not we, you are ;) [15:10] TheSheep, Could you make a icon for xfce4-taskmanager? [15:10] *an [15:16] somerville32: I can try. what would it be? [15:18] TheSheep, I'm not sure. [15:18] TheSheep, Be creative? lol [15:18] sigh [15:19] Even if you could find something in the icon set we use already so that I can just modify the desktop file would be great. [15:24] somerville32: the system-monitor icon? [15:25] Weird. [15:26] I modified the desktop file and ran update-desktop-database but it still shows no icon in the menu. [15:26] btw, is the xfce4-task-manager really needed when there is the gnome-system-monitor installed by default? [15:27] It doesn't show up in my menu. [15:28] somerville32: in system [15:29] cody-somerville@veracity:/usr/share/applications$ gnome-system-monitor [15:29] The program 'gnome-system-monitor' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [15:29] sudo apt-get install gnome-system-monitor [15:29] bash: gnome-system-monitor: command not found [15:30] weird [15:30] wonder why I have it installed [15:33] hmm... logs says it installed with the whole system [15:33] somerville32: you have a fresh gutsy? [15:33] No [15:33] It might be because it is recommended and not dependent [15:34] it's still installed by default [15:34] There might be another application installed that caused it not to be [16:18] Hello together [16:33] :) [16:33] how do i set my font size to 96dpi in xubuntu ? [16:36] * somerville32 forgets. [16:38] TheSheep, still here ? [17:19] MatBoy: yes [17:31] hi, can i somehow install xubuntu even tough i installed ubuntu? [17:31] i dont like gnome [17:31] laptop is too slow [17:31] Yup [17:32] Install the xubuntu-desktop package :) [17:32] ah great.. how do i make X start with that though? [17:32] and i have xserver-xgl.. do i have to disable it? [17:33] You click "sessions" before you login and select Xfce4 [17:33] And I do not believe you need to disable xserver-xgl [17:33] But it might make it faster if you do? [17:34] somerville32, oh ic.. do you nkow how to disable xserver-xgl? [17:34] No, I do not. [17:34] :) [17:36] heh ok.. np. thanks ! [17:37] Awesome! :) [17:37] Hopefully you'll hang out with us here! [17:37] heh.. sure [18:03] hi, i was given a link in here to the mini.iso but lost it, can anyone help me out? [18:08] !install [18:08] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [18:09] Bassetts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [18:09] thanks [19:22] anything I should watch out for when I want to use compiz with xfce? [19:37] zeroflag, I don't think so. [19:37] I think compiz actually replaces the xfce4 window manager. [19:40] can someone tell me how to turn on compizfusion in xubuntu gutsy? :P [19:43] sooki: system -> prefs -> appearence -> visual effects [19:44] I just downloaded the newest Xubuntu-LiveCD and it doesn't do bash completion for example for "sudo apt-get install " [19:44] How can I enable that? [19:44] i actually don't have a preference thing under system [19:45] sooki: ah wait, this is #xubuntu [19:45] sorry :P [19:45] i do have the compiz manager installed, "advanced desktop effects settings", it has the plugins i previously used under fiesty still checked, but compiz doesn't appear to be running [19:46] i guess the answer will be on the forums [19:46] i stopped using it under fiesty, but never uninstalled before the gutsy upgrade [19:46] i havent run compiz on xfce yet [19:47] hmm [19:54] what's the command to see if I have a packaged installed or not? [19:56] my laptop function keys (brightness etc) don't work. What am I missing? [20:44] how do I get compiz to autostart? [20:44] I always have to run the config tool to start compiz... [20:45] Add it to the autostart in applications>settings ? [20:45] really? Oo [20:45] that's stupid. >_< [20:49] File a bug! :) [20:59] hi [21:00] I want to know how can I personalise my own menu! [21:00] I had some application that have to be add manually... like Netscape 9 or Quake III Arena [21:00] quittt, Unfortunately, xfce4-menu is not compliant with the desktop standard. [21:00] You can add items outside of the system provided menu only. [21:01] somerville32, so? [21:01] somerville32, I had them added, and they are on Others now [21:01] hey, my laptop brightness controls don't work in xfce... any ideas? [21:01] quittt, So you've already personalised your menu? [21:02] jess^^, Do they work in other desktop environments? [21:02] somerville32, in Gnome? Yes... but I can't add my games in Jogos menu(Portuguese) [21:02] somerville32, yes. in gnome. [21:04] somerville32, and how do I change the themes? [21:04] Applications > Settings > User interface [21:05] somerville32, strange... [21:06] I did only find Window Manager [21:06] somerville32, which is the command? [21:06] Look for "User interface settings" [21:06] found it [21:06] =] [21:07] :) [21:07] somerville32, it is not literally translated to portuguese [21:07] Ah. [21:07] quittt, You're welcome to help out with translations at translations.launchpad.net :) [21:08] is there anyway to install the distribution without using the installer? [21:08] !install [21:08] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [21:08] i.e. can I somehow install the distribution onto an encrypted /root and /usr partition? [21:08] or do I have to instal lfirst, encrypt second? [21:09] I'm not sure. [21:09] I think you encrypt first. [21:09] Not after. [21:09] Like, both at once. [21:09] but it's so much more fun when you can't read your FS. [21:10] Well i've created the partitions and formatted them and then opened them with cryptsetup [21:11] this thing is damn good [21:11] it is much lighter than Gnome [21:11] and it stills a desktop [21:11] :) [21:12] and then in the prepare partitions install dialog, they're listed under /dev/mapper/home /dev/mapper/root /dev/mapper/usr and I change the mount points to /home / and /user and then I get a message [21:12] how can it be free? [21:12] sometimes I ask myself... [21:12] "the file system on /dev/mapper/root assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems use by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home,/media*,/usr;local, etc.) may be used without reformatting." [21:12] I'm going [21:12] bye [21:12] bye === sacater is now known as wraund === _RandyboY is now known as RandyboY [22:05] Where do I find the Xfce Menu? (as decribed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/102723/ ) [22:05] Launchpad bug 102723 in ubuntu "[Xubuntu Dapper] Terminal opened from root apps menu crashes" [Undecided,New] [22:07] sjefen6, alt+F2 [22:07] xfce4-menu [22:07] ok. tnx [22:10] crashes that too :( [22:10] :/ [22:11] is there a downgrader, to the previus version? [22:13] !downgrad [22:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about downgrad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [22:13] !downgrade [22:13] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system. [22:13] Oh. :( [22:14] hi im using backtrack but i cant connect to internet with dsl anyone to help me? [22:15] somerville32: downloading the cd for it instead :P [22:15] pppoeconf [22:16] i try it but nothing change [22:17] ifup eth0 ? [22:17] no i didn`t try this.. [22:17] any other advice? [22:23] somerville32 i try and nothing happen [22:24] !pppoe | lllll [22:24] lllll: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE [22:31] thx [23:21] !offtopic [23:21] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [23:23] evil_tech, ? [23:24] yeah [23:27] TheSheep: what did i do wrong that you are sicing ubotu on me? [23:27] lol [23:27] evil_tech: it should have told you [23:28] i dont understand what it said. all i did was ask it about the off topic channel [23:28] evil_tech: try /msg ubotu offtopic :) [23:33] oh sorry :-/ [23:34] evil_tech: I only tell you to let you know you can do that [23:34] evil_tech: don't worry about it