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mike-kubuntuat first i thought it was because it was a sym link, but i just created a comnpletely new directory and the same thing is happening00:00
mike-kubuntuanyone know whats up?00:00
Exploitlespea: Unrecognized option: -ar AND Could not create the Java virtual machine.00:01
Exploitlespea: ah works with jar.. didnt look right, sorry :)00:01
szakulechi, I'm confused as to where Konqueror stores its cache file- any help would be greatly appreciated00:02
lespeaExploit: haha k good00:02
ardchoillemike-kubuntu: what does ls -dl /var/www show?00:02
Exploitlespea: he wants "Directory to install"... where shoud it be?00:02
Exploitlespea: there is "/home/MYUSERNAME/Desktop/bluej" as standard00:03
lespeaExploit: wherever you want it to go? ~/{progname} ?00:03
mike-kubuntuardchoille: drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 800 2007-11-03 19:54 /var/www00:03
Exploitif it is in my /home only i can use it, right?00:03
lespeanot necessarily00:04
ardchoillemike-kubuntu: Ok, and for every directory below that that has "r" set, "x" is also set?00:04
lespeayou have to change permissions to remove read/execute for everybody00:04
Exploitif i set +r rights.. yeah, but i dont want to ^^00:04
lespeahaha00:04
mike-kubuntuardchoille: yes00:04
Exploitshoud i make a directory in /home called Programs?00:05
Exploit--> /home/programs00:05
lespeamike-kubuntu: do a ls -lA... does . have rw permissions?00:05
lespeamike-kubuntu: make that ls -la sorry00:05
Dr_Willis it would be /home/USERNAME/Programs00:06
lespeaExploit: no... and it would be /home/{username}/programs00:06
lespeaExploit: I mean you could00:06
lespeaExploit: up to you man00:06
Exploithmm.. so everything i want to install is in my home/username/00:06
Dr_WillisPut it in /home/Username/MySpiffyUltimete/Programs/That/I/Love/To/Death. :)00:06
ardchoillelol00:07
Dr_WillisExploit you users home directory is /home/username00:07
Dr_Willisas system admin - you COULD install anything anywhere.00:07
Dr_Willisusers normally keep stuff in their own dir.00:07
Exploitand i should install it in /home/exploit/bluej than?00:07
mike-kubuntulespea: it says . has drwxr-xr-x00:07
lespeamike-kubuntu: hmm k00:08
lespeaExploit: that'd work00:08
mike-kubuntulespea: it worked once when i linked it but then i tried again later and it wouldn't and hasn't since00:08
Exploitokay and he wants a java jdk directory00:09
lespeaExploit: i think it's /usr/bin/ but i could be wrong :po00:09
Exploitahh sould i install bluej to /usr/? there is a directory called games00:11
lespeaExploit: i wouldn't00:11
draikAny word on when the other repos are going to be added?00:11
* draik is talking about source-o-matic00:12
Exploitok. in /usr/bin is java java_vm is this the jdk directory?00:12
lespeaExploit: not sure :/00:12
lespeaExploit: that or maybe /usr/lib/java.../00:12
SanneExploit: I recommend not to install any third party apps to /usr/*, because those directories are governed by the package manager. Better places would be /usr/local or /opt.00:12
Dr_Williswhat are we installing anyway? heh00:13
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Exploitin /lib/ is java virtual machine00:14
FastreHola muy buenasa noches, soy un novato y necesito una ayuda, para ver las actualizaciones y descargarme paquetes y tal.. x donde cae?00:14
Exploitdirectory (jvm)00:14
draik!sp | Fastre00:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:14
draik!es | Fastre00:14
ubotuFastre: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:14
lespeaExploit: just try /usr/bin i think that'll work00:15
lespeaExploit: i believe it just needs to find the javac executable00:15
Fastrecenkiu00:15
methodswhy is my tty logins all out of wack ?00:15
Exploitin /bin are java things which looks like references to other files00:16
methodsand why am i not authorized to run a dam x session00:16
Exploitin /lib is a directory called "java-6-sun-1.6.0.00"00:17
NickPrestaExploit, it's actually "java-6-sun-1.6.0.03" I believe00:17
Exploitin /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib there is a jexec00:18
Exploitokay thank you00:18
NickPrestaExploit, what seems to be your problem?00:18
DaleheadHi.  Can someone help me with a NDISWRAPPER problem on KDE?  A friend got this working for me previously using Gnome, but i've spent 3 hours and got nowhere tonight00:18
Daleheadideally a pointer to a step by step guide, i'm very new to this00:19
ExploitNickPresta: I dont know where my JDK directory is00:19
Exploiti got it with apt-get install java600:19
NickPrestaExploit, why do you need to find your java-jdk directory?00:20
Exploiti want to install BlueJ (programm to write source code in java)00:20
Exploitand bluej needs it to use the compiler00:21
IradigalescHello! Why Kopete opens by default all links with Konqueror? I've Firefox configured at setting to be the default web browser...00:21
NickPrestaExploit, and doing "java -jar bluej-220.jar" doesn't work?00:22
ExploitNickPresta: it does but the window after that wants the directory00:22
tazgodxi got a small problem. every now and then my desktop just decides it doesn't want to put a screen saver up, if i look at desktop settings it is supposed to come on, but still doesn't00:23
tazgodxanyone know of that kind of problem00:23
tazgodx?00:23
NickPrestaExploit, I installed the 'j2sdk1.4' package and then ran 'java -jar blue-220.jar' and it autodetected my jdk directory. Do you have the j2sdk1.4 package?00:24
Exploitno i just made apt-get install java600:25
NickPrestaExploit, try installing the 'j2sdk1.4' package00:25
Exploitsudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre00:25
Exploitthat was the line00:25
Exploitand 1.4 is out of date00:26
NickPrestaExploit, I'm aware you installed java6, just try installing the 'j2sdk1.4' package for me :)00:27
Exploithow to install the old one?00:27
NickPrestaExploit, no, having the java6 packages are fine00:27
NickPrestajust run `sudo apt-get install j2sdk1.4'00:27
NickPrestaand then try to install bluej again00:28
NickPrestaand Exploit you should probably install bluej to /opt/ as that is what the directory is for.00:28
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ardchoilleNickPresta: Wait, /opt is for user-installed stuff?00:31
Exploitwhy /opt/ or do you mean /usr/opt?00:31
tazgodxExploit: whats the problem  your having? bluejay not recognizeing the installed JSDK?00:31
Exploitwhit jdk1.4 the installer found: /usr/lib/j2se/1.400:32
Exploittazgodx: the bluej found a directory now, but its 1.400:32
NickPrestaardchoille, well, as far as I understand it, /opt/ is for optional binaries and such that aren't installed by the system00:32
Exploitand what about /opt as install folder..?00:33
Exploiti thought i should install bluej to /home/exploit/buej00:33
Exploitneed it for public use (all users on this machine)00:33
NickPrestaExploit, you may, as you wish. It's ultimately your system; you're free to install stuff where ever you like. I like to keep binary packages out of my home directory (since I like to keep ~ clean) but you may not mind having bluej in your home.00:34
ardchoilleNickPresta: Ah, ok, good to know.00:34
NickPrestaardchoille, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES00:34
ExploitNickPresta: idont want to have it in my /home first.. (want clean too)00:35
Exploitshoud i install it to /usr/opt?00:35
NickPrestaExploit, well, if it's installed to /opt, all users should be able to access it, providing they have permission00:35
ExploitNickPresta: thats what i want. is it /opt or /usr/opt?00:37
NickPrestaExploit, /opt. There is no /usr/opt by default, AFAIK00:37
ardchoilleNickPresta: Nice link, ty00:38
ExploitNickPresta: ok its installed now :)00:39
NickPrestaExploit, good to hear.00:40
ExploitNickPresta: how can i update to the newest jdk now?00:41
NickPrestaExploit, hmm. Let me have a look00:42
* Dr_Willis gets drafted to fight wth his wifes windows machine again... Argh.. wish me luck.. BBL.00:42
georfreyHola alguien puede ayudarme, tengo problemas con compiz???00:44
ardchoille!es | georfrey00:45
ubotugeorfrey: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:45
georfreythanks00:45
vsudilovCould someone explain what the following C syntax means (var1 is a boolean, var2 and var3 are floats): while (!var1 && var2 < var3)00:51
Nylehi there00:53
LjLvsudilov: this is not ##c, this is #kubuntu. and C doesn't have booleans. anyway, assuming var1 is an *integer*, it means that the loop will continue as long as var2 is smaller than var3 and var1==000:53
NyleI put a cdrom into my pc and kubuntu crashed and restarted by itself00:54
Nyleagain I try to access the cdrom, and it goes kablooey00:54
* Dr_Willis is thinking theres some issues going on in the automounting of cd's00:54
Nyleso far no problems, but it happened twice00:54
vsudilovty LjL00:54
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nonewmsgshow do i know if im using 64bit01:06
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Dr_Williswhat did you instrall? heh.01:07
nonewmsgsi put in a kubuntu cd01:07
nonewmsgsi have every version01:07
Dr_Willisi forget the command lsb_release -a   perhaps01:07
NickPrestaDr_Willis, nope01:08
NickPrestaI tired that too :)01:08
Dr_Willistry uname -a01:08
Dr_Willis i686 G = 32bit01:08
nonewmsgscool i have the 64bit01:09
Dr_Willisor that may be bad.. :)01:09
nonewmsgsyes but on the computer it has it is good01:09
romulogood night room,01:10
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romulojust have a question, since I've upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 the cds won't work01:10
romuloI get this message that says feature only available with hal01:10
romulocan anybody help me?01:11
Dr_WillisSeems theres been a lot of cd issues lately01:11
romuloDr_Willis: yeap01:11
nonewmsgsok here's an easy one.  i want to mount one drive (apparantly nothing is mounted by default).  so i go sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 and it tells me mount point /mnt/sda1 does not exist01:12
NickPrestanonewmsgs, did you mkdir /mnt/sda1?01:12
nonewmsgsthanks :D01:12
IAmWillhow the hell do you start ssh on kubuntu01:13
nonewmsgsyeah it worked now thanks nickpresta01:13
NickPrestassh01:13
IAmWilli know how to do it on gentoo... but this is crazy01:13
IAmWilljust ssh?01:13
IAmWillthats it?01:13
biovoreapt-get install openssh-server01:13
biovoreif you want the server..01:13
NickPrestaor openssh-client01:13
IAmWillno ssh start or /etc/init.d/sshd start?01:13
NickPrestaIAmWill, the latter, I believe01:14
biovorewell that apt-get install should start it automaticly..01:14
biovoreelse.. /etc/init.d/ssh start01:14
biovoreas root01:14
romulocould somebody help me ?01:14
romuloI get this message that says feature only available with hal01:14
romulowhen trying to mount a cd01:14
IAmWillthanks.. will try01:14
sjonce you install openssh-server, it will automatically start once its downloaded as well as at boot01:15
helmy_hi all, i have a compaq c310 laptop with builtin conexant hd sound card when i mute the sound the kmix shows mute icon but sound is high and not changes01:15
Dr_Willisright click on the kmix icon. i think thees a setting to select which 'mixer' its controlling - it may be contrilling the wrong one01:15
helmy_you mean select master channel or what?01:23
nonewmsgshelmy i bet it has to do with asoundconf01:26
nonewmsgstype it in konsole/terminal and you can select which01:26
innovatihey all, ive just installed Kubuntu on my iMac.  I have no sound, porr screen resolution  and I was wondering if there was a tutorial or iMac-specific installation instructions on how to fix this post-intall01:28
nonewmsgsi dont know any imac specifics but i can try to help you with your screen01:28
innovatiI more worried about sound lol01:29
innovatiI have the new 20 inch imac01:29
nonewmsgsdo you know what sound card you have01:29
innovatium.... not off-hand, it should be on the apple websites specs tho01:29
innovatidownloading firefox atm01:29
nonewmsgssure ill look it up01:29
nonewmsgswait.  can you just type lspci.  i'm having a rough time finding the scard model online.  i have seen some stats/pics and it does look sweet01:32
innovatihaha okays01:33
innovati00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)01:33
nonewmsgsand there was no sound with the livecd either, right01:34
innovatinipe01:34
nonewmsgshave you tried using asoundconf01:35
nonewmsgstry setting and unsetting pulseaudio01:35
innovatiI hadn nor do I understand it01:35
nonewmsgsok let's do it togeher01:35
nonewmsgsstart up a konsole window01:35
innovatiin there01:35
nonewmsgsasoundconf list01:36
innovatiIntel is listed as available01:36
nonewmsgsasoundconf set-default-card (and exactly how it was written)01:36
innovatidone01:37
nonewmsgsnow try maxing out the volume and see if that helped at all01:37
innovatihmm, when i play a song is says device is busy01:39
nonewmsgstry an audio cd01:39
innovatium.....01:39
Zyklon-Bhey I just installed kubuntu 7.10 and when I try to donwload something firefox crashes... is it something usual or?01:39
innovatiI don't know if I have any of those here01:39
innovatifound one01:40
Jester45Zyklon-B: i would say that would not be a usual thing or else the package mantainer would be in trouble01:40
innovatidevice is busy when I try to play a CD01:41
[Relic]no plain svn for kubuntu?01:41
vzduchas far as I seen Gutsy ships w/ 2.0.0.8 atm.. 2.0.0.9 was released Thursday or so01:41
vzduchperhaps it's a bug in that version01:41
innovatibrb, gonna log out and in agains01:41
mdumoulinZyklon-B: strange.. how do you try to download something?01:42
Zyklon-Bjust normaly, no floashgot or another thing01:42
Zyklon-Bjust a tarbal from sourceforge.net01:42
Zyklon-Bbut it happens in other things too01:43
mdumoulinaah ok... well, i dont know ;-/01:43
mike-kubuntuok, since i installed a different video card, 7600 to 8600 upgrade, the progress bar doesnt show up when booting or shutting down the computer. the screen acts as though its recieving no video output01:44
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nonewmsgsmike that is a common bug.  i think you have to put a vga= code into grub01:45
rhythmicmayhemWhat can I do to prevent "Runtime error 216 at some-memory-address" when exiting a Windows based program in Wine.  I am running wine-0.9.46 on Kubuntu Gusty. This error did not appear in previous installs of Kubuntu/Wine01:45
mike-kubuntunonewmsgs: thanks01:46
nonewmsgsmike do you want more instructions or is that good enough01:46
innovatiback01:46
nonewmsgsis that good or bad01:46
mike-kubunturhythmicmayhem: downgrade wine probably or check on winehq. lots of times upgrades break programs because different versions of windows interperet the api differently and a fix for one program under xp might break a program made for 9801:47
rhythmicmayhemmike-kubuntu: Thanks01:47
mike-kubuntunonewmsgs: i'm gonna try a search on the forums, theres probably more info there, thanks for the tip01:47
rhythmicmayhemblarney01:48
innovatihow do I figure out my screen, sound stil not working but screen is annoying me01:49
rhythmicmayhemoops .. sorry ... typeing in wrong window ...01:49
mike-kubuntuinnovati, whats wrong with your screen/sound?01:49
landleyDoes Knetworkmanager work in Ubuntu 7.10 for anyone else?01:50
innovatiiMac, 20 inch screen.  native resolution of 1650x1080 and I'm at 1400x1050 and it's distorted01:50
innovatino 3D either01:50
landleyIt says I have no network cards.01:50
innovatino sound01:50
landleySince I'm on here, having ifconfigged from the command line, this is probably wrong.01:50
BluesKajinnovati, what sound card?01:51
innovatiIntel01:51
innovatiright now I've got really messed up colours, I'm gonna hafta do something quick lol01:52
mike-kubuntusorry abou the lots of questions innovati: what type of video card?01:52
innovatium.... ATI HD something01:52
nonewmsgsinnovati actually i thought it said nvidia in the specs i saw?01:53
BluesKajinnovati, have you tried to reconfigure your graphics hardware in system settings01:53
innovatiI have and it made my colour depth go psychedelic colours01:53
innovatiI can barely naviagate01:53
mike-kubuntuinnovati: install fglrx via the restricted-driver-manager, its in system settings -> advanced -> restricted driver manager01:53
innovatihttp://www.apple.com/ca/imac/specs.html01:53
innovatimy hardware does not need any restricted drivers it tells me01:54
mike-kubuntuinnovati: i used to know what to dofor the screen resolution, but they moved where its stored, used to be a section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for screen resolutions, check around online, maybe they will link you to where it moved01:54
mike-kubuntuinnovati: weird, try apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx01:54
mike-kubuntuinnovati: then check in the restricted drivers again01:55
juan_hi, all! is there an application to change the look of the panel?01:55
innovatiI can't eject the audio CD I ut in to replace it with the kubuntu CD, this is a slot-loading drive and I can't manually ejet it01:55
innovatilol sudo eject cdrom wrked01:56
k5ubuntui need help istalling opera on kubuntu01:57
innovatiokay, I installed it01:58
k5ubuntuyou did innovati?01:58
innovatiit does not list anything in the restricted drivers manager bbecause it claims my hardware does not need any restricted drivers01:58
nonewmsgsk5ubuntu why can't you install it? isn't there a .deb at opera.com01:59
Lam_where does kmenuedit save its configuration file?01:59
innovatiI'm a former kubuntu user I just got an Imac a month ago to replace my 7 year old kubuntu box and I never imagine having this much trouble on such modern hardware01:59
BluesKajinnovati, check for the restricted driver in the advanced tab in system settings, but you have to relogin first01:59
innovatiah, brb then01:59
k5ubuntuyes but01:59
k5ubuntui dont know how to install it01:59
nonewmsgsk5ubuntu download the ubuntu one and basically double click and it should install real easy02:00
kristjansoperating system not found -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60206402:00
k5ubuntuwaot02:01
k5ubuntuwait02:01
mike-kubuntunonewmsgs: do you have a link to a post with the problem, i keep getting thrown off by people runing into the usplash resolution bug02:01
nonewmsgsmike i thought that was the same thing02:01
nonewmsgsmike it also affects the shutdown thing02:01
mike-kubuntunonewmsgs: neg, with that you just have to change the resolution on the usplsash and update it, mine its like the vga mode isn't working with my video card, it doesn't slow down anything though02:02
nonewmsgsmy bad :(02:02
k5ubuntuok nonewmsgs i downloaded in now what?02:02
vzduchk5ubuntu: it should be in some repo02:02
nonewmsgsnow open the file normally (double click)02:02
mike-kubuntunonewmsgs: it sounds like the vga thing might be a big help though, i just cant find anything on it? do you remember where you found it?02:03
landleyDoes anybody know why Konqueror refuses to connect to any websites, despite networking working just fine in firefox?02:03
landleyIt says "could not connect to host".02:03
k5ubuntulol02:03
landleyIt seems like the dns lookup worked ok, but the http helper thingy didn't.02:03
landleyI don't know if this is related to knetworkmanager thinking I have no network cards, or if it's a separate issue.02:04
vzduchk5ubuntu: sudo apt-get install opera02:04
vzduch!info opera02:04
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in gutsy02:04
landley(Networking works just fine if I iwconfig and ifconfig everything from the command line...)02:04
mike-kubuntubrb02:04
vzduchk5ubuntu: it's in the partners repo02:05
landleyMaybe has something to do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/8668002:05
kristjansOperating system not found -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60206402:06
underdog5004is there a way for sshfs to follow symlinks?02:06
k5ubuntulol were vzduch02:06
mike-kubuntuhmm, my kdesu isn't working02:07
Lam_!kdesu02:07
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:07
vzduchk5ubuntu:02:08
vzduch## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is02:08
vzduch## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu02:08
vzduch## users.02:08
vzduchit's in the sources.list, only needs to be enabled02:08
kristjansOperating system not found -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60206402:09
zachwhat's a good email program?02:10
vzduchyou decide02:10
zachindeed, i don't know any02:10
mike-kubuntubrb02:11
vzduchKMail, Thunderbird, Evolution, Sylpheed(-Claws), mutt... there's a lot of choice02:11
zachthunderbird works on linux?02:12
underdog5004zach: natively02:13
zach^_^02:13
zachsilly me02:13
underdog5004lol02:13
zachfirefox works on linux02:13
zach<3 ff02:13
zach<3 mozilla02:13
schistehey02:14
schistedoes anyone knows what configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH means ?02:14
schisteI've got gcc and so on installed02:14
underdog5004schiste: you may need to install build-essential02:14
schisteand ech &PATH give me02:14
schisteunderdog5004:  I have it ;)02:14
purpleposeidonWhat happens when stuff breaks during upgrades: Ubuntu Futsy Fibbin'!02:14
underdog5004no more ideas...sorry02:14
schisteHmmm that's really weird02:16
Fade2Blachey is there a way for you to download the certificate for a enterprise wlan, when i try to connect to my schools wlan it will not let me because it sends out a certificate when you try to connect to it02:16
schistegcc = unavailable command -_-02:16
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rhythmicmayhemIs there a way to downgrade to a different version of a package using adept manager - I am having a time finding documentation on adeptdocumentation02:18
nonewmsgsis there a way to not advertise my ip whenever i login without using a proxy02:18
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Dr_Willis!iso02:20
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.02:20
schistedo you see anything wrong in these:02:21
schisteschiste@schiste-laptop:~$ printenv PATH02:21
schiste/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin02:21
schisteOr at least something missing02:21
Lam_is there a way to change the % change in volume for each tick on the volume dial of my keyboard?02:23
vzduchschiste: do you have build-essential installed?02:23
schisteAs I said above, I do :)02:23
vzduchschiste: you said 'gcc and so on'..02:24
schisteHe also asked me about that iirc02:24
schisteanyway, yes I have it02:24
schisteand just removed/installed it02:25
schisteBut I do think there's something wrong with my &PATH02:25
schistebut can't see what :(02:25
vzduchnothing I can see atm either02:26
underdog5004schiste: it's identical to mine02:26
schisteHmmm02:26
underdog5004except I've also got /usr/games, but I doubt that's the problem02:26
schisteThat's pretty weird02:26
spine55Does anyone know how to change the default console font?02:29
Dr_Willisconsolechars -f somefontname02:31
Dr_Willisits set by a confg file in /etc/console*  i belive02:31
DevideZerwhy there isnt kubuntu server ?02:32
vzduchDevideZer: ?02:32
DevideZerhttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition02:32
Dr_Williswell... lets think about that...02:33
Dr_Willisthe server editions dont have X or the desktop.02:33
DevideZerwhy no ?02:33
Dr_Willis the only real idfferance betweek Kubuntu and Ubuntu Is  the default Desktop02:33
vzduchbecause they mostly don't need any02:33
Dr_WillisSort of the point of the 'server' edition - is the lackof the Desktop :)02:33
Dr_Willisand a very slim set of packages. letting the server admin add what he really needs02:34
DevideZerso how the admin should control the seerver ?02:34
Dr_WillisThe same way admins have been doing it for years..02:35
Dr_Williswith the shell02:35
vzduchs/years/decades/02:35
DevideZerand if he dont want\know to use commands its more primitive02:35
Dr_Williseons, epochs. :)02:35
Dr_Willisif a server admin dosent know how to do that.. then he really should be looking for a different job.02:36
Dr_Willisor doing a lot of reading. :)02:36
vzduchDr_Willis: or use Winblows Server :D02:36
ignoramusAnyone know where installed .deb packages go?02:37
Dr_WillisHmm.. the .deb file itself? or the contents of the .deb ?02:37
nonewmsgs or install xfce02:37
andrejHi ... we're running 7.04, with the ubuntu/nvidia drivers installed.  tvtime complains about "no XVIDEO port installed" , stuff about YUY2 and requiring the binary drivers.  Donwloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers, but they don't like the current kernel because they can't see the kernel-source.  How do I work this?02:37
ignoramusDr_Willis: So- we meet again ;)  I installed a game (openmortal) with the .deb package, and i have no idea where the executable file went02:38
andrej2.6.20-16-lowlatency02:38
ignoramusDr_willis: I checked the files the package installer created, but there were mostly txt and sh files02:38
BigDaddyEvening all. I just realized that my drives are not showing up on my destop until I automount something (camera, CD-ROM). Any one ever have this problem?02:40
vzduchBigDaddy: that's not a problem, that's a feature :)02:40
BigDaddyvzduch: you are kidding right?02:40
vzduchBigDaddy: no02:41
ignoramusAlso, completely unrelated question: Will my clock on 7.10 change for daylight savings tonight?02:41
BigDaddyvzduch: is there a way I can change it back to the way it was in 7.04?02:41
vzduchignoramus: it did in Europe, so why wouldn't it in North America? :)02:41
Dr_Willisignoramus fire up the package manager tool search for that game and see what files it installed where..  is one way02:41
ignoramusvzduch: good enough :)02:41
Dr_WillisWhy would a drive show up - when it dosent exist?02:42
vzduchignoramus: we already changed back last week02:42
ignoramusdr_willis: what do you mean "package manager tool search" ... ?02:42
andrejHow would a DVD drive not exist when it doesn't have a medium?02:42
Dr_Willisignoramus pick one.,. adept. synaptic, ect...02:42
ignoramusdr_willis: k... lemme see...02:42
Dr_Willisor try the Konqueror apt://  address feature02:42
Dr_Willisandresj thats a very 'zen' question. :)02:43
andrejheh02:43
andrejnot really ... :}02:43
vzduchignoramus: and rumour has it that it might have been the last daylight time period over here.. the European Commission is investigating whether it really has economical advantages to switch hours twice a year..02:43
andrejvzduch : about time.  daylight saving saves nothing as far as 'm concerned.02:44
andrejjust confuses my sleeping patterns02:44
vzduchmine too02:44
andrejHas anyone with an NVIDIA card got tvtime working in buntu?02:45
andrejIf so - how did they do it? ;D02:45
ignoramusdr_willis: aha! Adept tells me that the install installs "data files and base characters"... so I don't actually have an executable, right?02:46
andrejHow do I get a source package for my kernel that matches 2.6.20-16-lowlatency02:46
ignoramusdr_willis: the largest files it created were .dat files for the characters02:46
BigDaddyseriously people, how do I get my drives on the desktop all the time?02:46
vzduchandrej: by installing kernel-source, I guess02:46
DevideZerwhen kubuntu will support media (wma,avi,mp3,mms) like ubuntu or mandriva ?02:46
vzduchBigDaddy: why?02:46
khirrcan u tell me what is the next resolution after 1280x1024?02:47
andrejDid that... gave me linux-source-2.6.2002:47
andrejdoesn't quite match 2.6.20-16-lowlatency02:47
andrejno such package available02:47
ignoramusbigdaddy: what drives exactly do you want on the desktop?  ubuntu doesn't by default, and neither does windows- it's not really necessary or even handy02:47
BigDaddyvzduch: because I want to have one click access to them. One drive for photos and music, one for my XP partition, one for my linux partition02:48
hydrogenkubuntu does by default02:48
hydrogenwhen they are availible they show up there02:48
BigDaddy7.04 had the drives on the desktop. it was an option. I have mine turned on.02:48
ignoramusbigdaddy: you have three separate HDDs?02:48
hydrogenDevideZer: it does..?02:48
BigDaddyignoramus: I have 4, I have /home on it's own02:49
andrej*sigh* ... of course.  I don't want the source tree - just the headers02:49
andrejThanks everyone :}02:49
ignoramusdevidezer: install automatix2 and you can download free codecs.  I would also say non-free, but that would be wrong to do ;)02:49
draik!upgrade02:50
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:50
hydrogenautomatix--02:50
hydrogentheres no need to install it02:50
hydrogenall codecs are availible02:50
DevideZerignoramus , 1) also with firefox ? 2) why wrong todo ?02:50
ardchoilleignoramus: Please do not recommend automatix, it's dangerous02:50
BigDaddyI wouldn't use automatix, I have heard upgrade nightmares02:50
hydrogenDevideZer: whats not working?02:50
vzduchignoramus: don't recommend automatix02:50
hydrogenautomatix is a nightbear02:50
BigDaddylol, good to see I am not the only one02:50
andrejGood (insert appropriate time), everyone ... tea time02:51
vzduchyou can use the automatix repo if you think it fit, but DON'T use the program02:51
DevideZerhydrogen , can you see this ? http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=2/7802/118801802:51
ignoramusthat's what everyone says, but when i first installed kubuntu (it was on feisty), and i never had it break anything02:51
ardchoille!worksforme | ignoramus02:51
ubotuignoramus: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/02:51
ignoramusardchoille: what does the newest incarnation of automatix2 actually break?02:52
sonoftheclayrHi all, I'm having trouble loading the glx module, it's in xorg.conf but when I startx it says the module could not be found and that I should try reinstalling the nvidia drivers, I haven't done that yet but I might try it next. Discuss.02:52
hydrogenDevideZer: I'm not sure what I'm supposed to see..?02:52
ardchoilleignoramus: This is not the place for this. We are not to recommend automatix, plain and simple.02:52
DevideZerhydrogen , this is video02:53
DevideZercan you see it with ff ?02:53
ignoramusardchoille: i didn't realize we had that rule. if this is the case, I will not mention it again02:53
hydrogeneven if the plan for hardy is to possibly integrate automatix..02:53
hydrogenbut thats another story!02:53
Dr_WillisFrom what ive seen of Gutsy - its made automatix rather  un-needed02:53
hydrogenDevideZer: no, but I tend to not install video stuff in my internet browser because 90% of it is spam02:53
ardchoilleDr_Willis: Indeed02:54
ignoramushydrogen: i just read that on fscked - i don't see it as a big issue02:54
hydrogenignoramus: neither do I02:54
hydrogenas long as its fixed02:54
DevideZerhydrogen , :(02:54
hydrogenbefore hand02:54
hydrogenwhich I'd assume it will be02:54
ardchoille!automatix02:55
ubotuAutomatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)02:55
DevideZerardchoille , "we don't provide support for it" so what i need todo ?02:56
ignoramusardchoille: isn't 99% of linux software 3rd party apps that can potentially screw you???02:56
ardchoilleDevideZer: Did you install automatix?02:56
DevideZerim not in linux atm but i will02:57
ardchoilleignoramus: When in this channel we are expected to abide by its rules.. whether we agree with those rules or not. Automatix in  a no-no here.02:57
DevideZerautomatix isnt oss S?02:57
BigDaddyI also just realized there is no home icon on the desktop02:57
ardchoilleDevideZer: Please don't use automatix or you may end up reinstalling your os02:57
ignoramusardchoille: what about easyubuntu?02:57
ardchoille!easyubuntu | ignoramus02:58
ubotuignoramus: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu02:58
DevideZerardchoille , why ?02:58
Dr_WillisLast i looked Automatix was not OSS and the 'author' was a bit of a hard person to 'get along with' :)02:59
ardchoilleignoramus: Those scripts are, in my opinion, worthless. It's much better to learn how to do things yourself rather than have someone's unsupported script do it for you. If something breaks, you are better equipped to fix it yourself if you learned how to do things to begin with.02:59
ardchoille!automatix | DevideZer02:59
Dr_WillisThere was a detailed review/dissection of automatix on some web site.. it had some very very very bad  programing  issues. :)02:59
ubotuDevideZer: Automatix2 is a 3rd-party product attempting to automate installation of additional software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A technical analysis from a Debian/Ubuntu developer can be found at http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (See also: /msg ubotu worksforme)02:59
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Dr_Willisthats the Url there.. a good read.03:00
ignoramusardchoille: agreed, but I know when i first started with linux, there were certain programs I used that gave me fully-working media within minutes03:00
DevideZerardchoille , so to install it or not ?03:00
ardchoilleDevideZer: Please don't use automatix.03:00
Dr_WillisKubuntu-restricted-extras   --- Is a meta package - that installs Most all the 'restricted' media/java/other bits - that people commonly want/need03:00
Dr_Willisso  for me 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras' replaces anything Automatix  would do for me. :)03:01
DevideZerardchoille , so how i can see media mms ?03:01
Dr_WillisBut that package dosent get mentioned Much.03:01
ardchoilleDevideZer: Which type of media?03:01
ardchoille!restricted03:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:02
ardchoilleDevideZer: ^^03:02
ignoramusdevidezer: thats one issue with kubuntu (and linux in general), is that getting media support and codecs can be tricky03:02
DevideZerardchoille , can you see this : http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=1/7022/118671303:02
Dr_WillisOf course  media support under windows can be JUST as bad.. and 100x as dangerous. :)03:02
ardchoilleDevideZer: What is that?03:02
ignoramusdevidezer: once you get them all, it is a great experience, IMHO03:02
Dr_WillisFriend had to do a reinstall of XP when WMP11  was told 'yes' to 'automaticially install codec'   :) moral is - DONT install codecs for porn from Russian web sites...03:03
DevideZerardchoille , video embeddded03:03
ardchoilleDevideZer: I don't use video03:03
ignoramusI like installing russian porn from codec sites :)03:03
Dr_Willisignoramus yep.. he told me..  'as soon as i clicked on OK' I knew i was  Totally Dead....  '03:04
Dr_Willis:)03:04
DevideZerardchoille , what this mean ?03:04
Dr_Williswe never did get all the spyware off.03:04
ignoramusdr_willis: what the heck was he expecting???03:04
ignoramusDr_willis: did you tell him to install Linux?03:05
ardchoilleDevideZer: if it isn't in the official repos, I don't install it.03:06
Dr_Willisignoramus thats on his other HD. :) so he was able to recover his files.. then reinstall03:06
DevideZerfirefox is int the official repos ..  .03:06
ardchoilleCould be why I've never had any major problems in any distro I've used.03:06
ignoramusDr_willis: he was one of the lucky ones...03:07
DevideZerDr_Willis , can you see this video in the page with firefox ?03:07
ignoramusdevidezer: please link to another site containing video03:07
ardchoilleDevideZer: Firefox is in the official repos, but I use Konqueror03:07
Dr_WillisDevideZer i never watch video Inside the browser  - normally03:07
DevideZerignoramus , why , what is wrong with this one ?03:08
kevman_Hi, I have been trying for years to get a USB WLAN NIC working, and now Ubuntu is working with it. I can ping google.com and sign on AIM through kopete, but konqueror refuses to go to any websites.03:08
DevideZerDr_Willis , but the media is embeded ...03:08
ignoramusdevidezer: i'm not sure... maybe try one more recognizable to average users03:08
Dr_WillisDevideZer there are video-grabber extensions for firefox. :)03:08
ardchoilleignoramus: Is that video he linked to a flash video?03:09
DevideZerignoramus , its very average . . . just avideo what is wrong ?03:09
DevideZerDr_Willis , try to grab video from this page http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=1/7027/118670403:09
ignoramusardchoille: not sure ... takes forever to load, but it looks suspect03:10
ardchoilleI don't recognise the link, which is why I didn't click on it03:10
ignoramusdevidezer: why do you need others to look at video for you???03:10
Dr_WillisDevideZer im not in a Linux Desktop at the moment.03:11
DevideZerignoramus , i dont need , i just want to know if other can see the video in kubuntu because i  cant so i need someone to tell me how03:11
ignoramusDevidezer: what's wrong with YouTube or any other well-known site that uses embedded Flash?03:11
Dr_Willisyoutube works for me on Kubuntu :)03:12
ardchoilleme too03:12
Dr_Willisstage6 does also.03:12
ignoramusme three03:12
DevideZerflash works . . . for me but there is also MMS .. . i want to be able to view it03:12
Dr_Willismms ?03:12
ardchoillewhat is mms?03:12
Dr_Willisthats what shoutcast uses?03:12
DevideZermicrosoft media stream03:12
hydrogenwindows media stream03:12
CreationistFor some reason, Gutsy will no longer let me lock my session... choose "Lock Session" and nothing happens.03:12
Dr_WillisCant say that ive ever seen a mms stream then03:13
hydrogenI /think/ mplayerplug-in can play it03:13
Dr_Willishydrogen Hmm.. that does sound familer. :)03:13
vzduchhydrogen: VLC can play it03:14
ignoramusi believe xine can play mms streams as well03:14
DevideZervzduch , vlc plugin for firefox ?03:14
ignoramusVLC should be installed regardless- it's pretty darn good03:14
ignoramusdevidezer: just install the standalone03:14
hydrogenbut03:15
hydrogenthe point is03:15
vzduchDevideZer: I think such a thing exists.. the stand-alone player can in any case03:15
hydrogenhe wants to be able to view the media without the browser03:15
hydrogenI think mplayerplug-in can03:15
ignoramusdevidezer: mplayer is good too03:15
DevideZerwhat is stand alone ?03:15
ignoramusdevidezer: not a browser plugin- it is it's own program03:15
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DevideZerignoramus , so when the page is load the play is self open and the video start ?03:16
ignoramusdevidezer: ideally, yes.  Your browser should ask how you want to open the file, point it to the program of your choice, and voila03:17
t00lzf0ntDevideZer: vlc plugin mplayer plugin and sometimes totem plugin will all play via the browser embedded03:17
ignoramusdevidezer: type this in konsole:  sudo apt-get install vlc03:17
t00lzf0ntwith mplayer you can right click and save the video03:17
t00lzf0ntstream03:17
DevideZeralso for firefox ?03:18
ignoramust00lzf0nt: i think with mms, the browser cannot handle it, so it asks what program to use (... i think)03:18
t00lzf0ntI use mms in my browser03:19
ignoramusi stand corrected :/03:19
ignoramust00lzf0nt: you can configure your browsers mimetypes, however03:19
t00lzf0nthmm bad example,03:20
mottyOk I'm a n00b  and need some help, I have the latest (7.10) live cde and I want to install it on my exisiting linux partion, but it keeps wanting to  install on my windoze part, how do I work around this?03:21
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vzduchmotty: choose custom partitioning and make your existing partition / (the root directory)03:22
slimjimflimanyone know how to make windows stick to one desktop in the taskbar using pager?03:22
mottyI tried that and it told me "error not root partion"03:22
mottyI'm  using to harddrives03:22
mottytwo03:22
Dr_Willismotty you want to replace your existing linux install?03:23
mottyyes, I am using mepis 6.503:23
Dr_Willismotty you dont plan on keeping any of the linux data/home dirs do you?03:23
mottyand I want to over write it with kubutu 7.1003:23
mottyI know I have to over write the root thats ok03:24
mottynope03:24
mottythats a debian distro and not compatible03:24
Dr_Willismotty you could just delete the existing linux paritions. leaving part of the hd 'unallocated' and tell the installer to use the unallocated space. it should partition/set it all up automaticially then.03:24
contrast83Mepis uses Ubuntu's repos, doesn't it?03:24
Dr_Williscontrast83 not any more03:24
t00lzf0nthmmm, ok appearently you need to hack your mplayer plugin, so i consider myself wrong for that one03:24
mottyit uses ubuntu and debin03:25
vzduchcontrast83: Mepis 6.5 does03:25
contrast83Oh ok. I was gonna suggest a dselect-upgrade, but I guess that won't work.03:25
spawn57they switched back to debian,03:25
Dr_WillisI think Mepis was went ubuntu,, then the dev. got mad.. so went back to  Debian03:25
vzduch7.0 switched back to Debian for the base03:25
mottyyep mepis 7 is full debian03:25
nonewmsgsmy grub and i are having issues.  with the drives in the same order as when i installed kubuntu, it automatically started windows and didnt give me te grub menu.  if i flip the first 2 hds, i get the grub menu and windows entry still starts, BUT ubuntu doesnt.  there are 5 hard drives.  3 sata and 2 pata03:25
wilson_does seem kind of pointless having debian AND k/u/x buntu03:26
mottyI tried that  as well Dr is still gave me "not root partion error" I even checked the CD to make sure it was not defective03:26
mottyit's wierd03:26
nonewmsgsnevermind.  supergrub "fixed it" and now i get a grub error 1503:27
contrast83nonewmsgs: You might try the SuperGRUB cd; just put them back in the same order as when you installed Kubuntu and that should put GRUB back on your MBR.03:27
Dr_Willismotty Hmm.. you  Might need to reboot after deleting the partitions.03:27
contrast83Oh, heh. nm then03:27
mottyI'm using a 20 gig partion and a 5 gig swap (I know I don't need it that large  but thats how it ended up)03:28
nonewmsgscontrast that didnt work and im not very good with supergrub.  i hate how boot options always use UUIDs03:28
mottyso use qpart and  delete  the current linux partions?03:28
mottythen reboot03:29
Dr_Willisbe sure you apply the changes when you edit them :)03:29
contrast83nonewmsgs: I'm not really sure then. Do you have / and /home on seperate partitions?03:29
amir_guys, I have peoblem to connect to a WPA network. Cccan any one help?03:29
nonewmsgson seperate drives03:29
mottyno03:29
mottysame drives03:30
vzduchmotty: is it even possible to create 5 GB swap space? o003:30
vzduchfor most applications a maximum of 1 GB is enough03:30
ignoramusamir_: is your wireless card being detected?03:30
nonewmsgsvzduch without manually playing with partitions it gave me a 5gb one.  since i have 2gb of ram03:30
mottythats whats so  wired about it, mandriva and mepis have no problem  but the ubuntu distros freak out03:30
contrast83nonewmsgs: You might just want to reinstall then. Do you know how to dselect-upgrade?03:30
mottyI have 3 different ubuntu distos and all of them do the same thing03:31
nonewmsgssigh.  this isnt a new problem.  i have installed it before and had this happen03:31
nonewmsgsso basically you're telling me to trial and error the 5 drives in bios and keep reinstalling until one time grub is happy?03:32
contrast83That's not exactly what I meant. I didn't know this was a recurring issue.03:32
contrast83Have you filed a bug report?03:33
nonewmsgsit's an issue with the way grub handles sata and pata.  it's in a different order than bios03:33
nonewmsgsor even linux03:33
contrast83So that's a no?03:33
nonewmsgsi posted in the forums a month or 3 ago and got no response03:34
contrast83http://www.launchpad.net03:34
contrast83Sorry, man. I don't know what else to suggest.03:35
vzduchmotty: if you think *buntu is strange in this respect, try Fedora *duck*03:35
mottywell, I like mepis but is old, I want some new things but everytime I try toi update parts of it it breaks03:35
nonewmsgssupergrub will let me boot linux directly, but if i ever hit a regular menu, i'm screwed03:36
mottyall I want is destop weather for gosh sakes, that and all my mouse buttons to work03:36
nonewmsgswhat might be convienant is if i could just install grub and then do a trial and error that way03:36
lordofthepigsHello! Is there a way I can change the color of the Crystal window decorations03:36
lordofthepigsI'd like my title bar to be a darker blue than the default03:37
Dr_Willisextra mouse buttons? yea - i use those.. for grenades and medpacks in Quake. :)03:37
mottyor zoom and grapple in nexuiz03:37
Dr_WillisThe  Gentoo Wiki/Guides have a lot of good info/example xorg.conf entrys for the various Uber-Mice that exist03:37
nonewmsgsif i delete the mbr in supergrub and reinstall it there, would that work03:37
contrast83nonewmsgs: Have you tried putting /boot on a seperate partition?03:38
lordofthepigsthere doesn't seem to be any configuration option for that in "system settings => appearance => window decorations"03:38
nonewmsgsinteresting idea03:38
contrast83That seems to help for some people. Not sure if it'd be relevant in your situation though.03:38
mottythe weird thing is, I got them all working (9 on razor  diamodback) but now it doesn't work the same way03:38
Dr_WillisIll stay with my MX518 :)03:39
* vzduch has been keeping /boot separate for a while now, no problems yet03:39
contrast83nonewmsgs: I just googled for "pata sata grub ubuntu" and it appears that this is a fairly common issue.03:39
nonewmsgsbut will BIOS go to that or the "first drive"03:39
contrast83Not sure. If possible, I would personally try to put /boot on the first partition of the first drive just to be safe.03:40
nonewmsgsthats my problem.  what IS the first drive03:40
nonewmsgsthe first drive in bios is not the first drive in windows is not the first drive in grub is not the first drive in linux03:40
nonewmsgs*cries*03:40
contrast83yikes03:40
nonewmsgsexactly03:40
mottydoes  kwikdisk tell you?03:41
nonewmsgsone sec it was in windows03:41
mottyit does on mine at any rate03:42
nonewmsgswhat also doesnt help me out is i have a pata card03:43
nonewmsgsand a mboard pata port03:43
nonewmsgsmaybe this would be easier if i exclusively use card?03:44
mottyit might03:44
nonewmsgsthe funny thing is windows installation crashes because it wont install to a pata card03:45
contrast83Anyone know if/when KDE 4 Beta 4 will be making its way into the repos?03:45
biovorebeta 4 is still very buggy...03:45
mottyit sure is03:45
mottyI have it on live CD looks great tho03:45
contrast83No more so than beta 3, from the impression I got. I was just checking out the Debian live CD last night.03:45
contrast83motty: Same one?03:46
biovorewell I built it from SVN last night..03:46
mottyno a beta of mepis03:46
contrast83Ahh03:46
mottyit set up all   9   button on my mouse on the live CD that was cool03:46
contrast83impressive03:47
mottyI thought so03:47
contrast83both that your mouse has that many buttons and that it detected them all. :-P03:47
nonewmsgsok all pata ribbons are on card03:47
mottyI'm a gamer freak03:47
contrast83ohh ok03:47
vzduchlol03:47
mottyhave been ever since wofstien came out03:47
vzduchpenis comparison.. *duck*03:47
contrast83lol03:47
Jucatovzduch: ahem03:48
contrast83who didn't see that coming?03:48
bazhangJucato: do you ever sleep?03:48
mottynot me, I'm no  good at 'em just love to kill stuff LOL03:48
Jucatobazhang: yep. but right now I'm severely lacking some03:48
contrast83motty: you played Alien Arena 6.10?03:48
bazhangI bet :}03:48
nonewmsgsso now let me try the "default fix" with supergrub03:49
mottyyes I just got it  yesterday, the bots on easy kick my ass03:49
contrast83lol03:49
mottyI'm almost 50 and can't see them to well03:49
mottyI kick ass in nexuz tho LOL03:50
mottynot as much background clutter03:50
mottyok well I'm gonna go try and get a ubuntu distro  to install otherwise I'll check out debian03:53
mottythanks for all the help, later03:54
nonewmsgsok that didn't do anything03:55
nonewmsgsapparantly both pata drives were in the card but the dvdrom wasnt03:55
nonewmsgsand launchpad has both bugs as confirmed03:56
x4245hello03:57
Kr4t05Well, it seems that video playback is suddenly and inexplicably broken.03:57
Kr4t05None of the videos that I have will play. :/03:58
x4245is there a graphical app in linux which tells me how muh data is coming to a spicific connection03:58
x4245for e.g, a download app.03:58
x4245i m using ketstats, but it only shows global speeds03:59
bazhangKr4t05: what kind of errors are you getting?03:59
bazhangoops03:59
nonewmsgsyay i played with boot orders and eventually i guessed right.  apparantly grub always considers pata first04:01
nonewmsgsthanks for your moral support contrast.  it helps to know someone out there cares :)04:02
navetswhat is a good IM program?04:03
nonewmsgspigeon?04:04
Goop2pidgin04:04
JucatoKopete04:04
Jucatoand it's Pidgin, not pidgeon :)04:04
nonewmsgsyes04:04
Jucatoer pideon*04:04
Jucatobah04:04
vzducho004:05
Goop2Pidgin > Kopete04:05
vzduchgood night folks :)04:05
nonewmsgssorry i was moving my 50+lb  computer.   heaviest damn computer i ever moved04:05
Jucato!good04:05
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:05
Jucatowith a dozen choices, you'll get a hundred A is better than B answers04:05
x4245navets: use pidgin if u are stuck behind a firewall, else, use kopete04:05
contrast83nonewmsgs: no prob, glad you got it working.04:06
Jucatokopete if you need webcam04:06
Jucatokopete if you want KDE integration04:06
nonewmsgsmy kopote has crash issues so it simplified my decision04:06
navetsx4245: pidgen freezes and kopete wont show the statues of any file transfer04:06
Jucatononewmsgs: what crash issue?04:06
contrast83pidgin doesn't have webcam support?04:06
Jucatocontrast83: none so far (afaik)04:06
Goop2Kopete looks much nicer than Pidgin, but I find it has less features04:06
Jucatoor last I checked04:06
x4245navets: u got the latest version from the repos?04:06
navetsx4245: yup04:07
JucatoGoop2: like?04:07
nonewmsgsright after i upgraded to gutsy, everytime kopete starts to conect it gives a crash window04:07
x4245navets: my pidgin crashes too, but i figured out on how to not make it crash04:07
Jucatononewmsgs: you have an MSN account in Kopete?04:07
nonewmsgsyeah04:07
Jucatononewmsgs: that has been fixed a week ago already04:07
x4245navets: and yes, kopete crashes to, especially since i updated to gutsy04:07
Jucatoupdate your system04:07
nonewmsgssweet04:08
Goop2Jucato: Maybe its just because I haven't looked very hard, but I haven't seen plugin support04:08
navetsi would use kopete but it wont show my file transfers04:08
nonewmsgsi haven't been playing with it much since then04:08
navetsand the gutsy upgrade sucks04:08
JucatoGoop2: Settings -> Configure Plugins?04:08
navetsit broke all of my stuff04:08
navetsno more sound04:08
navetscant dim my laptop screen04:08
navetsconstant crashes04:08
navetsetc04:08
nonewmsgsi have seen it break  3/4 systems i tried it on04:08
JucatoGoop2: Kopete has Now Playing/Listening, Logging/History, Web Presence, Auto Replace, etc.04:08
nonewmsgsthis was the only successful one04:09
Goop2Jucato: oh.. heh.. like I said, I haven't looked that hard =P04:09
navetsi am going to move to PCLinuxOS04:09
x4245navets: yeah, me too04:09
JucatoGoop2: and that's only the built-in ones... not sure what other plugins are available in kde-apps.org :)04:09
nonewmsgsa clean upgrade works fine04:09
nonewmsgsbut feel free to try pclos04:09
Jucatoand feel free to try another distro everytime something goes wrong :)04:09
MagicCowWhat advantages does PCLOS offer over Ubuntu?04:09
Jucato(and I bet you'll be going around a lot...)04:10
nonewmsgsrpm04:10
x4245navets: i think u should use pidgin04:10
nonewmsgseven though debs are more common now than rpms04:10
JucatoMagicCow: RPM (Mandriva) based, almost all codecs installed by default04:10
navetsx4245: i do, but it crashes 3-4 times during a 5 min convo, very very annoying04:10
MagicCowCodecs are easy enough to get though.04:10
MagicCowIs RPM a major advantage over Deb, or just another personal choice?04:11
Jucatousually personal choice04:11
nonewmsgsi prefer debs04:11
Jucatoor technical...04:11
MagicCowI was looking at PCLOS, I've finally got everything set up and working now though, wonder if it's worth it.04:11
x4245navets: i know how to make it unfreeze04:11
navetsx4245: how04:12
MagicCowCompiz destroyed my system temporarily though.. what a pain that program is.04:12
JucatoMagicCow: if it works *for you* then it's worth it, no matter what other say04:12
x4245navets: u using the shortcuts to open it right?04:12
x4245navets: from the kmenu > internet04:12
navetsx4245: i just open it with katapult04:13
nonewmsgsoh yeah i was wondering.  if you install buntu with the vga driver, does it not install compbiz, or what al does that do04:13
x4245navets: well, open konsole04:13
* MagicCow shrugs.04:13
navetsx4245: k04:13
x4245navets: make sure that pidgin is closed by checking ps -ef04:13
x4245navets: then use pidgin &04:14
Goop2has anyone else had more troubles with WinE in Gutsy than Feisty?04:14
Jucatononewmsgs: you need the proper driver for your video card. and that still won't install compiz. compiz is a program you have to install.04:14
x4245navets: this'll make sure that it doesnt crash04:14
Jucato!compiz | nonewmsgs04:14
ubotunonewmsgs: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:14
nonewmsgswhat about in g:Pbuntu04:14
navetsx4245: alright ill try it out04:15
x4245navets: ok04:15
nzkCan anybody hear me?04:18
contrast83nope, nobody.04:18
nonewmsgsmy question properly stated is this.  i installed a gutsy ubuntu and it killed performance because it was a low end vampire nv card.  i restarted and selected vga mode and it seemed a lot better and i was wondering the full effects of that04:18
nzkI'm having problems installing * on my computer.04:19
nonewmsgsfull effects of selecting vga mode04:19
nzkNothing will install.04:19
nonewmsgswhat error does it give04:19
nzkI just tried the latest Ubuntu, both graphical and alternate discs.04:19
nzkI must have gone through half a stack of discs, burning using different programs, different speeds.04:19
contrast83you're not using cdrw's, are you?04:20
nzkThe alternate discs won't even boot, and the graphical installers just get up to the part where I see the wallpaper and a mouse, nothing else.04:20
nzkcontrast83: CD-Rs.04:20
nzkI used many different manufacturers.04:20
nzkVerbatim, Memorex, Maxell, etc.04:20
nonewmsgsi have seen issues with cdrws.  why do they mess up04:20
contrast83nonewmsgs: not sure. they usually work for me for 2-3 installs, then they crap out.04:20
nzkI also tried Fedora, PCLinuxOS, Mint Linux, and Debian. Be it DVD or CD, nothing will install on my computer.04:21
nzkAbsolutely no OS or Distro that I have tried so far will successfully install.04:21
contrast83nzk: what kind of computer?04:21
nzkThis wouldn't be much of a problem if my current Ubuntu install wasn't FUBAR.04:21
nzkcontrast83: A Dell Inspiron XPS Gen 104:21
bazhangnzk: what is the underlying system?04:21
contrast83proc?04:21
nzkI've reformatted it many times, but recently absolutely nothing will install.04:22
nzkcontrast83: x8604:22
kevman_Use a different cd-rom...?04:22
contrast83kevman_: ^^04:22
dave_which is a better card to run on kubuntu, ati rage 128 or a 3dfx voodoo3 tv card?( i know both cards suck but those are my choices)04:22
nonewmsgshe's tried all kinds of different ones04:22
kevman_I mean Cd-rom DRIVE04:22
nonewmsgsahhhhh.04:22
bazhangnzk: what speed are you writing at, and are you using dao (sp?)04:22
nonewmsgsthat makes a lot more sense04:23
nzkbazhang: I tried every single speed.04:23
kevman_Oh, an XPS. Isn't it like... 4 inches thick?04:23
nzkkevman_: It's a laptop.04:23
nzkkevman_: 5.04:23
nzkI can't really get another optical drive short of ordering a new one.04:23
kevman_Hehe. I had a friend who had a Prescott-based one...04:23
kevman_nzk, has you a USB drive?04:23
nzkNay.04:23
kevman_Like a thumbdrive?04:24
nzkOh, yes.04:24
kevman_Use it.04:24
nzkI don't think it supports booting from that, however.04:24
bazhangnzk: have you tried booting from usb key04:24
kevman_What CPU class it is?04:24
nzkbazhang: No.04:24
nzkkevman_: I forgot.04:24
kevman_I swear English is my native language :>04:24
bazhanghaha04:24
nzkWhatever they were using in Dec 2004 :\04:24
kevman_P4, then. It'll boot from USB.04:25
nzkI thought you meant architecture.04:25
nzkI already said it was a 3.46ghz P4.04:25
kevman_Oh.04:25
kevman_It'll boot from USB.04:25
nzkAlright, then. How do I go about doing so? Just put the same image as I would burn to a CD on a thumbdrive?04:25
kevman_You could also do PXE.04:26
kevman_Eh, depends on your distro.04:26
nzkExplain.04:26
bazhangpendrivelinux dot com has the answers04:26
kevman_Um, USB would be far easier.04:26
nonewmsgswhat's pxe? is that a way to boot from an iso image (i always wondered if that was possible)04:27
nzkbazhang: No can do.04:27
kevman_PXE is booting accross the network. It needs a very specific DHCP, DNS, and FTP srever.04:27
nzkUnless I want to break my hand, I'm not opening Firefox.04:27
kevman_What?04:27
rayluer...what?04:28
bazhangnzk: have you considered getting disks from shipit dot com?04:28
nzkFirefox will unrecoverably freeze my computer, requiring a hard reboot. I can't kill it from SSH, or anything. This will piss me off, and make my punch through my drywall.04:28
nzkbazhang: I'm not going to bother.04:28
rayluwhy can't you kill it from SSH?04:28
bazhangok04:28
nzkProcess won't show up, raylu04:28
rayluo.004:28
nonewmsgsill mail you a disc04:28
kevman_That's... odd.04:28
rayluwhat do you do to reveal the process?04:28
nzktop04:29
kevman_How big is your thumbdrive?04:29
kevman_Its probably just no using any CPU.04:29
rayluhave you tried just killall -9 firefox-bin04:29
nzkkevman_: 4,096,000,000 bytes04:29
nzkraylu: Yes.04:29
raylustrange indeed04:29
bazhangnzk: could you try burning on a friend's cd writer?04:30
nzkI've tried three different CD writers.04:31
kevman_Heh, I only now how to do a USB install with Gentoo.04:32
nonewmsgsis the image the right md5?04:32
bazhangnzk: well, I made many coasters in the past, so not sure how to help, apart from someone sending you a disk or shipit04:32
kevman_Your drive is shot. That's all there is to it.04:32
nzknonewmsgs: Yes. And every burning program I use verifies it.04:32
nonewmsgsweird04:32
nzkkevman_: So how do I boot from a thumbdrive, in the sense of what do I put on it.04:32
kevman_I don't know, tbh04:34
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kevman_I'm looking, nothing's coming up.04:34
EllipsysAnyone running the fglrx 8.42.3 driver here?04:34
nonewmsgshttp://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/04:36
nonewmsgsi dont know if that's really what you're looking for04:36
nonewmsgsthat's how to do an install to it...can you do an install from an installed ubuntu04:37
Ellipsys!info fglrx04:37
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in gutsy04:37
nzknonewmsgs: All I found was installing Ubuntu TO a thumbdrive, not FROM a thumbdrive :(04:37
Ellipsys!find fglrx04:38
ubotuFound: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source04:38
nzkWhatever, maybe simply putting the iso on the thumbdrive and booting from it will work?04:38
Ellipsys!info xorg-driver-fglrx04:38
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.9 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB04:38
nonewmsgsyeah try that nzk...i dont know what else atm04:38
tuxwulfCan I change the size of icons n kubuntu? I.e. in my taskbar, quick launch or whatever it is called...?04:39
kevman_Right clock on it, click "configure taskbar" and there should be a slider for it.04:40
nonewmsgshttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/boot-linux-iso-from-thumb-drive-355366/04:40
tuxwulfkevman > Fund sth but does not seem to work... I'll search some more. Thanks!04:41
tuxwulfkevman > I need to check 'Conserver space", then the sizing wrks04:44
tuxwulf...but the systray icons do not change whatever I do, only the quicklauncher  icons04:45
bazhanghttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ nzk--I think this is what you want04:48
bazhangalso available from XP.04:48
navetsis there a dual monitor gui for KDE?04:58
kevman_Eh?04:58
kevman_The Control Center does dual head.04:58
navetshumm, doesnt work for me04:58
kevman_Dual head isn't easy in Linux.04:58
kevman_What GPU we talkin' here?04:59
biovoreyeah.. no autotomatic dual graphics..04:59
navetshumm i thought gutsy was supost to have very good dual monitor support04:59
biovoreIf you get a nvidia card.. and are using the nvidia driver.. you might be able to use nvidia-control panel04:59
biovoreyou have to setup X to use dual monitors..05:00
navetsbiovore: thought so05:00
hydrogen!xinerama05:00
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead05:00
navetsi wish i would have just stayed with fiesty05:00
navetsi had everything set up just fine05:00
hydrogenjust look at that ^05:00
biovoreshould be the same thing really..05:00
biovore!dualhead05:00
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama05:00
navetsdoes anyone know if pclinuxos has good dualscreen?05:02
navetsi am thinking of trying it out05:02
bazhangperhaps they would know on #pclinuxos?05:03
bazhanghi coreymon77105:04
neil__Hi, my computer won't shut down correctly.  It completes the shut down in about 10 sec, then says "Will now halt" but does not shut down.05:04
bazhangoops !05:04
draikI just upgraded to Gutsy and restarted. It says that Thunderbird is gone. How do I get it back if trying to install says that it is the latest version?05:11
bazhangdraik thuderbird has undergone a transformation of late--now two packages in repos mozilla-thunderbird and thunderbird--the second is the one you want05:15
draik!beryl05:16
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz05:16
draik!compiz05:16
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:16
bazhangdraik: the package you want is simply called thunderbird--the old one is mozilla-thunderbird--new functionality in the newer package05:17
draikbazhang: remove mozilla-thunderbird?05:17
bazhangdraik: try to apt-get install thunderbird05:18
draikbazhang: It's already installed05:18
bazhangwithout the mozilla?05:18
bazhangerr name05:18
draikI see it now05:18
draikThere are two of them05:18
bazhangnewer one is very cool.05:19
bazhangdraik: thanks for the #ubuntu-classroom transcripts05:19
draikbazhang: I will see in just a bit. Thanks for the heads up. Not a problem. I'm working on somewhat of a manual, but with Gutsy just released, back to the drawing board.05:20
bazhangdraik: look forward to it05:20
bazhanghi coreymon77!05:21
draikbazhang: http://www.draikunderlord.com/Kubuntu.html05:21
bazhangdraik: thanks!05:21
draikNot a problem05:21
nzkIs it safe to run sudo apt-get autoremove?05:24
sub[t]rnlyes05:24
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k5ubuntui need help installing opera05:27
purpleposeidonMy grub is hosed, how do I fix it?05:28
sub[t]rnl!grub05:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:28
rayluhow is it hosed?05:29
rayluk5ubuntu, what have you done so far?05:29
purpleposeidonraylu: I got grub error [some integer]05:33
raylu...05:33
Daisuke_Idothat "some integer" is important.05:33
rayluum...05:33
rayluyeah...05:33
purpleposeidon17, I think. Or 12.05:33
Daisuke_Idoin fact, that integer is more importand than the rest of that line combined.05:34
purpleposeidon2105:34
purpleposeidonBut I think I got it fixed.05:34
* raylu slams head on wall05:34
purpleposeidonOr at least qemu seems to think so. :/05:35
purpleposeidonThou you'd think they'd be able to waste a few kb so you could know what the error meant05:36
k5ubunturaylu nothing05:38
k5ubuntusorry05:38
supert0nesis there any way in compiz to make maximized windows not use the full window?05:39
BigDaddyOK, easy question. IS there a way to change a crapload of filenames to the exact same name, only lowercase?05:42
bazhangkfilereplace BigDaddy05:43
BigDaddyis that a program or a command?05:44
bazhangbatch search-and-replace component for KDE05:45
draik!beryl05:45
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz05:45
draikAm I able to get the Feisty repo for Beryl and install Beryl?05:46
draik!compiz05:47
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion05:47
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BigDaddyI don't think this kfilereplace will do what I need. I just need to convert all uppercase letters to lowercase lettters. Is there anything else?05:50
blendtuxwhat the fu grrrrrr05:51
blendtuxi get this wheni want to install the package build-essential05:51
blendtuxThe following information may help to resolve the situation:05:51
blendtuxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:51
blendtux  build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or05:51
blendtux                            libc-dev05:51
blendtux                   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed05:51
blendtuxE: Broken packages05:51
blendtuxsorry for the spam05:51
blendtuxi thought i copied only 2 lines05:51
_3mti_blendtux: install some g++ libs05:52
tazgodxi got a small problem. every now and then my desktop just decides it doesn't want to put a screen saver up, if i look at desktop settings it is supposed to come on, but still doesn't05:52
tazgodxanyone know of that kind of problem?05:52
blendtuxwhy is apt-get not doing that for me _3mti_05:52
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Daisuke_Idoblendtux: you seem to have some serious issues05:53
Daisuke_Idopastebin your sources.list05:53
_3mti_blendtux: Try on Xwindow adept_manager05:54
Daisuke_Ido_3mti_: same effect, adept is just a graphical apt-get.05:54
purpleposeidonit worked! :D05:54
blendtuxi can install with aptitude05:54
_3mti_Daisuke_Ido: but u can serarch for library05:55
Daisuke_Ido_3mti_: you can do that from the command line as well05:55
_3mti_i'm known man05:55
_3mti_thaht was my suggest :]05:56
blendtuxi have to downgrade two packges aptitude is saying05:56
purpleposeidonexcept I think running  sudo qemu -hda /dev/hda -hdb /dev/hdb was a bad idea, because when I rebooted, only the root partition was mounted05:56
blendtuxi think some repo's are out of sync at the moment atleast the one i sue05:56
Daisuke_Idoblendtux: what's it recmmending you downgrade?05:56
blendtuxuse05:56
Daisuke_Idoit would appear so05:56
Daisuke_Idothis is why i said to pastebin your sources.list...05:56
purpleposeidonsomething about bad superblocks05:56
blendtuxwhat version of libc6 do you have Daisuke_Ido05:57
_3mti_purpleposeidon: edit /etc/fstab05:57
blendtuxthe ubuntu package version05:57
blendtuxand are you on gutsy05:57
purpleposeidon_3mti_: yeah, I'm gonna have to bust out tomsrtbt or a livecd or something05:58
blendtuxDaisuke_Ido: http://pastebin.com/m4d068ae306:00
Daisuke_Ido Installed: 2.6.1-1ubuntu1006:00
blendtuxme too06:01
Daisuke_Idothat's not the repo i would have used for opera, but no matter06:01
blendtuxits sugesting to downgrade to ubuntu906:01
blendtuxso what should i do06:01
blendtuxaccept aptiude solution06:01
smorganywhere I can find the ubuntu repo security and package default servers, or a default sources.list for ubuntu...06:02
Daisuke_Ido!source-o-matic | smorg06:02
ubotusmorg: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:02
Daisuke_Idoblendtux: aptitude's solution sounds alright06:02
smorgits very weird that the configuration in adept's repo manager gui doesn't reflect my sources.list for some weird reason!06:02
Daisuke_Idonot ideal, obviously, and you can always re-upgrade afterwards06:03
Daisuke_Idosmorg: apt-get update?06:03
smorgyeah... but there are some things I added to the gui that aren't in sources.list06:03
smorgbut they still show up in the gui06:03
smorgand visa-versa06:03
smorgdoes adept store things separately?06:03
Daisuke_Idoerm06:04
Daisuke_Idocheck /etc/apt/sources.list.d06:04
Daisuke_Idothat's a directory with repos added through adept and such (it doesn't add them to the base sources.list06:04
smorgaah06:05
smorgso if i use apt-get, it won't use anything added with adept06:05
smorgand the other way around06:05
Daisuke_Idoit will06:05
smorghm06:05
Daisuke_Idosources.list.d is treated as an extension of sources.list06:05
smorgah okay, so it doesn't matter06:06
Daisuke_Ido(just as /etc/init.d/ is treated as an extension of /etc/init06:06
Daisuke_Idoright06:06
smorgawesome thx for the info, i'll check out that generator and see if i can get the two matching06:06
smorgyea speaking of that, I couldn't find /etc/init06:06
Daisuke_Idoi don't think there really is one06:07
Daisuke_Idoin that case, init.d is a replacement..  as i understand it, it's treated as a meta-init script06:07
smorgso... would it bork anything if i just remove any scripts from /etc/init.d or is there a special way of modifying startup?06:08
Daisuke_Ido!startup06:08
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot06:08
Daisuke_Idoah...06:08
smorgaaah06:08
Daisuke_Ido!boot06:08
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto06:08
raylufor a safe-ish way to auto start stuff06:09
smorgofc kubuntu has a sexy gui for everything :-)06:09
raylutry ~/.kde/Autostart06:09
raylumake sure the stuff you put in there has chmod +x06:10
wilson__adept is not sexy06:17
wilson__it's unstable in kubuntu06:17
draikCLI > Adept06:17
smorgyeah I've had a number of crashes06:17
smorgI miss emerge06:17
draikHow do I install OpenGL? I had it and then the upgrade took it away. I don't even have my screensaver functioning.06:17
smorghaha, source-o-matic is great!06:20
maverickdoes compiz have window border themes like beryl's emerald ?!!06:26
Daisuke_Idomaverick: yeah06:26
Daisuke_Idoemerald.06:26
Daisuke_Idoemerald was compiz's, beryl just used it06:26
maverickreat06:26
maverickGreat*06:27
Daisuke_Idoand raylu, he was talking about starting on boot, not on kde startup.06:27
maverickand do u know wether compiz is better...i've used beryl before ?!06:27
Daisuke_Idoso autostart wouldn't cut it06:27
rayluyeah, i figured06:27
Daisuke_Idomaverick: i'll make it simple: beryl doesn't exist anymore.06:27
raylumaverick, yes, compiz > beryl :D06:28
Daisuke_Idocompiz-fusion is the re-merge of compiz and beryl06:28
Daisuke_Idoand it is awesome06:28
Daisuke_Ido!compiz06:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion06:28
maverickraylu: you make it sound like a true combat elite KILL log :D06:28
tuxwulfbazhang: what is it?06:31
bazhangtuxwulf: the kfilereplace is something to change (batch) filenames--or so I was told earlier today--haven't tried it myself06:37
t3ch13Is there a config file somewhere that allows me to set the resoloution of the kdm theme login screen?06:41
draik!opengl06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:50
draikHow do I install OpenGL? My screensaver won't work06:51
draikThis is recent06:51
draikIt happened after the upgrade06:51
bazhangdraik: try this in console glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'06:53
bazhangerr konsole06:53
smorghappen to know what the difference between the prereleases and backports are?06:55
draikThat is my output06:55
smorgI assume prerelease is potential updates for the current version06:55
smorgwhereas backports = ports from development version06:55
smorgsound right?06:55
draiksmorg: I would assume prerelease is "on the way" and/or "beta" and backports is apps from previous releases continuing on with the latest K/Ubuntu06:56
smorgbackports are the other way around... just not sure about the prereleases06:57
rayluafaik, backports are newer versions of things that exist in the official repos06:57
rayluand prereleases are things that are being considered for inclusion in the official repos06:57
rayluneither are considered very stable, but i don't think the average user will notice06:58
rayluthen again, i could be totally wrong about prereleases06:58
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tuxwulfbazhang :..eh ... okay ... mistaken identity .../07:03
tuxwulf?07:03
Dry_Icehow long should it take to download kubuntu on a cable connection?07:04
basicasmhello07:05
purpleposeidonWhat's the command to find the uuid of a partition?07:08
spawn57you can look for it in the /dev dir07:10
Dry_Iceyou never realise how slow your connection is until you try to download kubuntu...07:11
purpleposeidonmmmhmmmmm....07:11
Dry_Icelol07:11
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smorg404 on deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy-commercial main07:16
smorgdoesn't exist?07:16
Dry_Icewhat doesn't exist?07:16
bio_its work07:17
Dry_Icethe link works...07:17
Dry_Iceif that's what you wanted to know07:17
Dry_Icebut i don't see a file named gutsy-commercial main in there...07:17
smorghm07:17
smorgits supposedly canonical's mirror for non-free things07:18
Dry_Iceic...07:18
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bazhangtuxwulf: no problem :}07:21
Dry_Icei hope my computer doesn't crash while i download kubuntu :D07:21
bazhang:}07:21
Dry_Icethat wouldn't be very fun...07:22
bazhangiso or upgrade?07:22
Dry_Iceiso...07:22
Dry_Iceall 697MB...07:22
Dry_Icei'm on the 163rd MB07:22
bazhangfast connection?07:22
Dry_Icecable...07:22
bazhangnice07:23
Dry_Ice:P07:23
Dry_Iceit's not at my expense...07:23
* Dry_Ice is sprog07:24
Dry_Iceim a fool for downloading it :P07:25
bazhangwhat are you running now?07:25
Dry_Icemac os x 10.407:26
bazhangyou're going to dual boot with boot camp?07:26
Dry_Iceno...07:26
Dry_Iceyou don't need boot camp07:26
Dry_Icei'm just going to put kubuntu on a partition07:26
bazhangbrave...07:26
Dry_Iceits an empty disk...07:26
bazhangintel mac?07:27
* Dry_Ice won't hurt any files...07:27
Dry_Iceyeah...07:27
bazhangmay be some sound issues --ubuntugeek has a whole blog on this07:27
Dry_Icehmmm07:27
Dry_Icethat's too bad...07:27
Dry_Icei was recommended ubuntu by friends07:28
Dry_Icei'm a linux n00b07:28
Dry_Icebear with me ;)07:28
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bazhangDry_Ice: you might want to try it in vmware fusion first--just to get a feel for it.07:29
Dry_Iceque?07:29
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bazhanga virtual enivronment that runs on top of your existing system07:29
Dry_Iceright07:29
Dry_Icelike parallels or bootcamp...07:29
bazhangexactly07:30
bat-tuxhi07:30
bazhangwell parallels, at least07:30
bat-tuxa speak spanish07:30
Dry_Iceor you can dual boot to bootcamp...07:30
Dry_Icei still have tiger...07:30
bazhang!sp | bat-tux07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:30
Dry_Icenot going to go to leopard quite yet...07:30
bat-tuxi from  mexico07:30
Dry_Ice!es | bat-tux07:30
ubotubat-tux: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.07:30
bazhang!es | bat-tux07:30
Dry_Ice:D beat ya ;)07:31
bazhanghaha07:31
bat-tuxthanks ubotu07:31
Dry_Icei speak enough spanish to find the bathroom :P07:31
Dry_Iceand a few other things07:32
Dry_Ice!fr | Dry_Ice07:32
Dry_Icethis .iso file is the same image burned to the 'live cds', correct?07:33
bazhangone and the same07:33
Dry_Icek, just making sure :)07:34
Dry_Icei iz a linux n00b, as stated before07:34
bazhangI doubt Tiger will let you start up with it though07:35
Dry_Ice?07:35
bazhangNo bios in OS X, but something called efi07:35
Dry_Icei bot up to cd...07:35
Dry_Iceboot*07:35
Dry_Iceinstall it on the partition...07:35
Dry_Iceand boot up to the partition07:35
bazhangneed boot camp for that.07:36
Dry_Iceno...07:36
Dry_Iceic u iz a mac n00b :D07:36
Dry_Icei think...07:36
bazhangwe'll see..07:36
Dry_Ice...07:36
Dry_Icei've booted up to dvds...07:36
raylulol07:36
rayluDry_Ice, that sounds like a boot loader07:36
raylunot a BIOS07:36
Dry_Icestill07:36
Dry_Iceyou can boot up to cds and dvds07:37
bazhanglinux ones?07:37
rayluon the other hand, they might just call their bios' code "efi"07:37
Dry_Ice...07:37
rayluall in all, i think we can settle on "mac should tell the user what's going on instead of assuming it's doing what the user wants correctly"07:37
Dry_Iceefi is something firmware interface, i think07:37
rayluoh, okies07:38
Dry_Iceyeah07:38
rayluextensible07:38
bazhangDry_Ice: have you used a linux cd/dvd to boot before?07:38
Dry_Icei use dvds for diagnostics all the time07:38
Dry_Icebazhang: no...07:38
rayluEFI is intended as a significantly improved replacement of the old legacy BIOS firmware interface historically used by all IBM PC compatible personal computers[1].07:38
Dry_Icesee? :D07:38
rayluwikipedia even has a nice useless picture of it07:38
bazhangI believe if you try to use single user mode, it will reject it07:39
raylu*diagram07:39
Dry_Icelol07:39
Dry_Ice...07:39
Dry_Icewhy boot into single user?07:39
Dry_Iceboot to disk...and only the disk...07:39
bazhangjust hold down c key?07:39
Dry_Iceyep07:39
bazhangcan't wait for your report...07:40
Dry_Ice?07:40
Dry_Icewhat report?07:40
bazhangon how it goes07:40
Dry_Iceoh07:40
Dry_Iceyou could just come in a few days...07:41
Dry_Ice2 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes remaining07:41
bazhangI could try it right now--I have an intel imac and a few dozen liveCDs07:41
Dry_Iceic...c07:42
Dry_Iceits ok07:42
bazhangwant to give it a shot?07:42
bazhangerr me07:42
Dry_Icei think i saw a video of someone doing it on their macbook...07:42
Dry_Icelol07:42
Dry_Icebooting up to the cd...as usual07:42
Dry_Iceoh, so sleepy...07:43
Dry_Iceoh, and if you catch me using konversation...that's a big giveaway that i've gotten linux installed =)07:44
bazhanghaha07:44
Dry_Icei'm taking full advantage of our time rollback :P07:44
bazhang:}07:44
Dry_Icesafari sucks, firefox is a powersucker07:45
Dry_Iceopera is ok...07:45
Dry_Icecamino was too buggy07:45
Dry_Iceand seamonkey was too...oldfashioned...07:45
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: so what do you use?07:45
Dry_Icesafari...07:45
Dry_Icemostly07:45
AT0M1CB0MB3Ranybody know how to play a swf on linux like a file?07:46
Dry_Iceunless there's a site incompatible with it07:46
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: does it display every page how it should07:46
Dry_Iceyes...07:46
bazhangAT0M1CB0MB3R: you mean a video file?07:46
Dry_Icei can't pause this kubuntu download07:46
Dry_Icehe means a flash file...07:46
AT0M1CB0MB3Rbazhang: no its a game07:46
Dry_Ice.swf07:46
Dry_Iceshockwave flash07:46
bazhangoh07:46
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryeah07:47
Dry_Iceor something like that07:47
Dry_Icelol07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Ryour right Dry_Ice07:47
AT0M1CB0MB3Rso can i?07:47
Dry_Icei don't know...07:47
Dry_Icei don't have linux...07:47
Dry_Icesorry at0m1cb0mb3r07:47
wilson__have you tried installing the kubuntu-restricted-extras  package ?07:48
Dry_Icebut i'll tell you, i've been in an sr-71 blackbird07:48
Dry_Iceas well as an f/1807:48
bazhangwilson__: some problem with installation?07:48
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: what do you have07:48
Dry_Iceos wise?07:49
wilson__libxine1-ffmpeg  might let you play flash07:49
Dry_Iceos x 10.4.1007:49
wilson__dunno, i'm sure you can i just don't know exactly what package07:49
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: nice i want osx07:49
Dry_Icelol07:49
Dry_Icei can get a copy for 70 bucks07:49
Dry_Iceof the new one07:50
Dry_Ice10.507:50
AT0M1CB0MB3Rwilson__: yes i have installed kubuntu-restricted-extras package07:50
Dry_Icei'm the type of person that waits until all the major bugs are sorted out though...07:50
wilson__libxine1-ffmpeg07:51
Dry_Icedoes anyone know which of the mirror downloads has the fastest server?07:51
Dry_Icei don't think the one i'm using has that fast of a server...07:51
Dry_Icecoz my friend said it should take a couple hours07:51
Dry_Icewhereas i've been waiting a day...07:52
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: why not download the file07:52
Dry_Icei am...07:52
AT0M1CB0MB3Rit took me like 12 minutes lol07:52
Dry_Ice<.<07:52
Dry_Icewhich mirror did you use?07:53
bazhangdon't know--mine took an hour--perhaps they know you're not on Linux :}07:53
Dry_Iceand was it the update?07:53
Dry_Iceor the actual .iso?07:53
bazhangiso07:53
Dry_Icepsh...07:53
Dry_Icewhat mirror do you guys use???07:53
Dry_Iceplease...07:53
Dry_Icei can't bear waiting 3 days...07:53
Dry_Icewhilst people download theirs in an hour...07:54
ioanhello everybody07:54
bazhanghi07:54
Dry_Iceheylo07:54
ioanDry_Ice you shouls use a mirror closer to your location07:55
Dry_Icei am...07:55
Dry_Iceits the closest one to me07:55
Dry_Icejust about07:56
Dry_Iceyou just go over a mountain range and a few deserts...and you're there...07:56
Dry_Iceits in the same state...07:56
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Dry_Icerent the dvd image files bigger?07:57
bazhangmuch07:57
Dry_Icei thought so...07:58
Dry_Icegbs if i'm not mistaken07:58
bazhang4.307:58
AT0M1CB0MB3RDry_Ice: i download the cd not the dvd07:58
Dry_Icei am too07:58
Dry_Icebut it's taking at least 2 days...07:58
Dry_Icewhich mirror do you use?07:58
ioani used the cd too07:58
Dry_Icei just wanted to compare...07:58
Dry_Iceand try other mirrors07:58
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Dry_Icecoz this one, the closest one, is (insert proper expletive) slow...07:59
bazhangwhy not try some others as well07:59
Dry_Iceright07:59
Dry_Icei want to know where you guys have luck :)07:59
bazhangasian ones are very fast07:59
bazhangjapan07:59
Dry_Icehmm08:00
Dry_Iceits only across an ocean :P08:00
Dry_Icei'm on the west coast...08:00
Dry_Icei'll try, thanks :)08:00
bazhangcheers08:00
Dry_Ice:)08:00
Dry_IceZOMG!!!!!!08:01
Dry_Iceits ticking off megabytes by the second...08:01
bazhanghaha08:01
Dry_Icei thought my parents were paying an awful lot of money for a slow connection...08:02
Dry_Iceit was the other end having issues, i guess...08:02
Dry_Iceits saying less than an hour...08:02
bazhangsweet08:02
* Dry_Ice compared to 2 days 10 hours and 20 minutes08:02
Dry_Ice*sigh*08:02
Dry_Icei am a (you know what)08:02
Dry_Icei so love japanese technology :P08:03
Dry_Icethis baby should be done by the time i'm off to sleep :P08:03
Dry_Icewow...its like using windows 3.008:04
Dry_Iceand then going to xp08:04
Dry_Ice:D08:04
Dry_Icei'm like a happy kid on christmas...08:04
Dry_Icesorry for all the talk...08:04
Dry_Icebut i'm kinda...excited :))))08:05
Dry_Iceits like a slave being freed!08:05
Dry_Iceyipee!!!!08:05
Dry_Ice50mb done...08:05
ioanhave anyone tryied the newest ubuntu ? i use only Kubuntu but i'd like to try also Ubuntu08:06
Dry_Icei could try it for you...08:06
Dry_Icei don't have it...but if you need a guinea pig really badly, i wouldn't mind..too much08:06
blackflagHello all :)08:07
Dry_Iceheylo :)08:08
ioani wasn't a fan of gnome since the beginning that's why i never used a distro with it but some day i'l try it08:08
blackflagI have an external usb 2.0 harddisk but its very slow08:08
Dry_Icehmmm08:08
Dry_Icei have a firewire harddisk08:08
blackflagonly ~400kb/s08:08
Dry_Ice...08:08
Dry_Icei know08:08
blackflagis there a way to speed the hd up?08:09
gruli use kubuntu with fluxbox on top :D08:09
PRC_HEROHELLO I AM FROM CHINA WHERE ARE YOU?08:09
Dry_Iceattach a high speed drill to it???08:09
PRC_HEROHELLO DEAR FRIENDS, FOR KUBUNTU08:09
Dry_Iceyes?08:10
Daisuke_Ido!caps | PRC08:10
ubotuPRC: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:10
grulmaybe he can't type lowercase :o he's from china after all08:10
PRC_HEROSORRY THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO USE THIS SOFTWARE--XCHAT08:10
Daisuke_Idogrul: then this isn't the place for him08:11
Daisuke_Ido!cn08:11
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk08:11
PRC_HEROO I C, IT'S SO KIND YOU ALL.:)08:12
harmentalhey guys...i've replaced gutsy by hardy in my repos and there are 300 MB of updated packages!! Is it safe to upgrade them all???08:13
Daisuke_Idouh. no?08:14
Dry_Icelol08:14
Dry_Iceprobably...08:14
Daisuke_Idono08:14
Dry_Iceif you have a good internet connection08:14
Daisuke_Idohardy?08:14
Daisuke_IdoDry_Ice: are you paying attention to what's being said08:15
Daisuke_Ido*hardy*08:15
Daisuke_Idothe release that's coming out NEXT year08:15
Dry_IceDaisuke_Ido: i haven't slept for a LONG time...sorry08:15
Daisuke_Idoharmental: if you do choose to upgrade, you pretty much forfeit any support help around here...08:15
harmentaland what if dont tell you ? :oP08:17
Daisuke_Idoenough is changing that you're going to be crying real quick08:17
Daisuke_Idohardy is not ready, it will not be ready for several months08:17
Daisuke_Idoare there even repos for it yet?08:18
Dry_Iceso sleepy...08:18
Daisuke_Idoyeah, i gotta get to bed08:18
Daisuke_Idowas wondering why i was so tired08:18
Daisuke_Idotime chance08:18
Daisuke_Idochange*08:18
Dry_Icelol08:19
ioanhey i'm form europe and here is  morning08:19
harmentalDaisuke_Ido: ok... i guess i'll have to wait......thx!08:19
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MagicCowI was messing around with my appearance settings, now any time I open a window, Kwin crashes, is there a way to gload the defaults through console or something?08:22
jussi01hmmm, someone know what the key combination for the process monitor is? ctrl +esc doesnt seem to work anymore...08:23
ioanharmental -if you like living on the edge you can try it -i did it with fiesty too -but is not so easy08:23
harmentalioan: all wanted to do is to upgrade gimp to the final release.....i guess i can wait for full fledged upgrade.....08:25
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MagicCowAnyway, setting windows decorations back to default, anyone know how to do that?08:29
MagicCowIf I can't actually open it without kwin crashing.08:29
viktor_hi i would like to install compiz08:29
Dry_Icei need to find a blank cd...08:29
Dry_Icebbs08:29
MagicCowviktor_:  I did that once, I can help where I can.08:29
viktor_does anyone know the site for the install compiz fusion08:29
MagicCow!compiz08:30
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:30
viktor_oh and i need some help plz i would like to change the boot loader to load windows first08:31
posingaspopularhey guys i lost my internet connection for a bit, and now akregrator shows all my feeds as red X icons08:33
Dry_Iceblast...08:33
Dry_Icei can't find my spool of cds...08:33
viktor_how do i change the grubboot loaded08:34
viktor_to load windows first08:34
viktor_someone please help08:34
Dry_Icecan someone help me find my cds?08:34
Dry_Icelol08:35
Dry_Ice!cd08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:36
spine55Does anyone know how to change the default console font.  Not in a window but the console running behind X08:36
ioannever tryied08:37
ioansorry08:37
ioanabout changing console fonts here's a link-spine5508:41
ioanhttp://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_20.html08:41
bazhangnice find ioan08:42
Dry_Ice!install08:43
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate08:43
Dry_Ice!automate08:43
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning08:43
Dry_Icehmmm08:47
Dry_Iceis there any way to install linux without a cd using mac os x?08:47
Dry_Iceif there isn't, i'll just do this when the sun comes up and i can actually look for the cds without waking the whole house up :P08:49
ioani don't think you could without cd08:49
Dry_Iceok08:49
Dry_Icethanks08:50
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ioanbye everybody09:01
jussi01!install | Dry_Ice09:01
ubotuDry_Ice: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:01
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Dry_Iceok, mornin.../night09:09
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bazhanghi jussi0109:14
jussi01hi there bazhang09:15
bazhangyour system all sorted?09:15
jussi01bazhang: ?09:16
bazhangjussi01: is your system running ok now?09:17
jussi01bazhang: yes... why do you ask?09:17
bazhangjussi01: I recall you had a sound problem, or was it something else--just curious, that's all09:17
jussi01bazhang: no, no sound issues here...09:18
bazhangok good09:18
* Webbmaster has trouble with dark colours and openoffice09:18
jussi01bazhang: you could tell me the new keyboard shortcut for process monitor...09:18
jussi01ie. what used to be ctrl + esc09:19
bazhangjussi01: do you mean task manager--control + escape works here09:26
jussi01bazhang: yep. ctrl + esc brings up the k-menu here...09:26
bazhangjussi01: I beleive you can tweak that in keyboard shortcuts, found in regional & accessibiilty sub menu09:27
jussi01bazhang: thanks, Ill have a look09:28
bazhangmany themes to choose from, Mac, Unix, kde3, kde4, etc. jussi0109:28
b_hello,gays09:29
b_guys09:29
jussi01b_: I hope thats a typo09:29
jussi01:)09:29
bazhanghaha09:29
b_sorry my fault09:30
b_i have a biggggggest problem.i can't open my first hardware09:31
bazhangb_: could you be a bit more specific?09:32
b_my English is poor.sorry i install the kubuntu today first time09:32
b_bazhang. can u help me.09:34
bazhangb_: I'll try..but you need to be more clear about what the problem is09:35
b_thanks,i just double click the dolphin,and open the storage media09:36
bazhangokay, and you can't see your other hard drives/partitions--is that it?09:36
Alarmdoes anyone know here how to install themes that are in a gz files ?09:37
b_hard drivers,i can see them,but cant open them09:37
bazhangAlarm: for superkaramba/kbfx?09:37
Alarmfor kde09:37
bazhangb_: are you trying to access windows drives/partitions?09:37
b_a big cross,and say "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 100009:38
bazhangb_: what are the other partitions--Linux or Windows?09:38
Alarmb_ thats kind of a bug09:39
Alarmb_,  do a sudo fdisk -l09:39
b_yes ,that's the point,i have two piece of harddrivers.i put my kubuntu into the 20G one09:39
Alarmand check whats the device name of the partition you want to mount09:39
Alarmis it an external hard drive ?09:39
b_my 80G one is vfat.windows' os i think09:40
Alarmis it an external usb drive ?09:40
bazhang!ntfs09:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE09:40
b_not usb,but ide. i think.because of my poor english ,i can't get the external mean09:41
b_no ntfs ,my drivers are all fat3209:41
Alarmfat32 ? ok09:42
bazhangb_: would it be easier in your native language?09:42
Alarm/dev/<device>    /media/<mount dir>    vfat    auto,gid=1000,umask=0002,iocharset=utf8     0    009:42
b_my 20G one is ex3 and awp09:42
Alarmthat would do for you09:42
Alarmof course if your user id is 1000 , you can check that with "id" command09:42
b_thx all. esp alarm. where i check those code?09:43
b_HET,i think09:44
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Alarmin /etc/fstab , you write those lines for each drive09:45
Alarmafter the reboot the partitions will be automounted with read/write access09:45
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b_i will have a try ,thank u very much. give u all my points.:)09:45
b_alarm ,excuse,how to get in /etc/fstab. i am in the konsole now09:48
Alarmsudo nano /etc/fstab09:48
b_can i use some simple moves like"ctrl+C" ,to copy your code into the konsole09:49
b_shift+insert.i get09:50
lordofthepigsHello!09:55
pag!hi | lordofthepigs09:55
ubotulordofthepigs: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:55
lordofthepigsWhere is that setting that tells KDE not to restore all of my open applications when I start a new session?09:55
paglordofthepigs, kcontrol -> KDE Comp. -> Session Manager -> Start with an empty session09:56
lordofthepigsthanks09:57
pagnp :)09:57
lordofthepigshow come the system settings doesn't show all the stuff that kcontrol does?09:57
ciaconhi guys - is it normal that amarok freezez up for like 60 secs on an idle 1,8ghz/768mb box, when loading songs onto an ipod with amarok???09:58
lordofthepigsAnd more importantly, why the hell is there no menu entry for kcontrol?09:58
Jucatolordofthepigs: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager09:58
* lordofthepigs wistles...09:59
lordofthepigsso does kcontrol really have more stuff than systemsettings?09:59
Jucatothe stuff that system settings doesn't show can be reached through other applications/locations10:00
Alarmwhats the difference between buffered and cached memory ?10:00
kim_kan man spille mp3 i kubuntu?10:05
bazhangkim_: play mp3? no problem10:06
blekoshi, how can i tell if my pc is 64bit?10:08
Jucatoblekos: you know what type of processor it has?10:09
lordofthepigsHmmm... In Feisty, I used to be able to show my desktop by typing win+d10:09
lordofthepigsany idea how I can restore that?10:09
Jucatolordofthepigs: Ctrl+Alt+D10:09
blekosintel core2 duo t720010:09
JucatoSystem Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts if you want to change it10:10
lordofthepigsJucato: okay, that's nice to know. How can I change it back to win+d?10:10
Jucatoblekos: you're is a dual core. not 64-bit10:10
Jucatolordofthepigs: btw, Win+D is not the default10:10
lordofthepigsI lookedin the keyboard shortcuts, but I can't find the item10:10
lordofthepigsnevermind...10:10
KalElhow can i connect to a windows shared drive?10:12
blekossorry to ask cilly questions, but in SuSe's site, when u want to download it recommends to choose 64bit verson if you have core 210:12
timriblendtux:  Core2 Duo is10:12
timriblendtux: pls ignore10:12
timriblekos: Core2 IS 64 bit10:13
Jucatoah ok.thought it was dual core only10:13
blendtuxi wont ignore it timri10:13
blendtux:)10:13
timriblendtux: :)10:13
blekosok so my next question is, should i install the 64 of kubuntu? (currently have the x86)10:14
timriJucato: All Core2's are 64 bit10:14
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tuxwulf... I have a  question ....10:15
tuxwulfHow d I prevent a module from loading at boot time?10:15
Jucatotimri: oh so they are not dual cores? or they are dual 64-bit cores?10:15
timriJucato: Or, more precisely, are  x86-64 capable.10:15
timriJucato: Core2 DUO == 2 core10:15
timriJucato: THere are also10:15
timriJucato: Quadcore Core2's10:16
timriJucato: Sorrry for the multiple lines (something wrong on my end)10:16
* timri is right back -- investigating enter key10:16
Jucatoah ok. thanks for the FYI10:16
blekoshmm, so is there any point of re-installing kubuntu with the 64bit version?10:17
wilson__64 bit if it's a server , 32 bit if it's a desktop10:18
lordofthepigshmm... I have a weird problem with my headset. When I plug it in, the sound stops coming out of the speakers, but doesn't actually come out from the headset10:22
lordofthepigsafter looking around a little, It seems that I should be using the "HDA Intel" sound device10:22
lordofthepigsbut I can't find it in the list of devices in "Sound System" settings10:23
lordofthepigsIt used to work fine in Feisty10:23
lordofthepigsNote that the selection of channels is also different from the one I had in Feisty10:23
tuxwulfseems /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?10:24
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InphoarHey.10:25
KalElhow do i connect to a windows network?10:25
InphoarWow, a lot of people in here.10:25
KalElatfq10:26
Jucato!samba | KalEl10:26
ubotuKalEl: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:26
InphoarHmm, I'm going. :P10:27
InphoarBYE!10:27
KalElok10:27
KalElthanks10:27
blekoscan anyone tell me the command for backing up my whole system?10:30
blekosthat is to create an image10:30
Ace2016create an image of the currently mounted hard drive? not sure if you can do that with a mounted drive10:31
bazhangwould that be the 'dd' command?10:32
blekosgenerally i use simple backup program10:33
blekosbut i need smg that will allow me to have my whole system and settings, so i just reinstall the current version and then10:33
blekosuntar (?) my backup10:33
bazhangsounds like you just need to backup your home directory10:34
blekosif i backup my home dir, then i need to re-install the progs10:34
blekosok, i know i can extract a list from the adept-manager and then re-iporting10:35
bazhangthen the 'dd' command would likely be in order10:35
blekosbut i am looking for one thing solution10:35
blekoshm dd command?10:35
bazhanggui you mean10:35
blekosdoesnt matter if it's gui or not [i'd prefer gui though]10:36
blekosone thing solution is to backup everything, and not having a list of  progs, a backup of home dir, a backup of this & that10:37
twosouls82blekos:  you could have a look at partimage (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page), we are considering using it at work10:37
blekosi'll have a look thnx :)10:39
Ace2016well for an automated backup system i'd have 2 hard drives and a samba share or something to put the disk image onto, then i'd install something small like dsl with a separate boot partition, then install ubuntu server or something, then create a corn job to restart the server every 24hrs, then create a startup script that coppies /boot/grub/menu.lst_dsl to menu.lst, and in dsl i'd create a bash script to mount the network shares and10:39
Ace2016dd an image onto the network share or to the second disk, and create a starup entry to copy menu.lst_kubuntu to menu.lst, basicly menu.lst makes the default startup option to dsl or kubuntu depending on what is to be restarted next, thus every 24 hours ubuntu restarts, goes into dsl, mounts the network uses dd to make an image of the network share, then restarts itself and goes into kubuntu and then carries on as the server :D10:39
Ace2016i mean uses dd to make an image of the hard disk onto the network share10:40
lordofthepigsIs there any way I can make kubuntu totally reset my sound settings?10:41
Ace2016oh wait10:41
basculehave a question, can GLXbe disabled at all in gutsy, tried # out GLX in the modules of xorg.conf and dri, still able to run glxgears, reason I'm asking is cause I am having a winr game issue relating to failed op codes on GLX10:42
basculewinr/wine10:42
Ace2016lordofthepigs: totally reset? to what?10:42
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lordofthepigsTo the point where it does the same configuration that it does at install time?10:42
Ace2016you could change the settings here: kcontrol > Sound & Multimedia >  Sound System10:43
lordofthepigsThe thing is my sound used to work fine in Feisty, but my headset doesn't work in gutsy.10:44
lordofthepigsI remember I had to fiddle a lot to get my headset to work in feisty.10:44
Ace2016oh, thats probably not a settings issue, probably a bug10:45
lordofthepigsbut I have no idea how I did that...10:45
Ace2016headset?10:45
Ace2016headphones?10:45
Ace2016is this for a laptop where the headphone jack stopped working or something?10:46
lordofthepigsexactly10:46
sebrmore or less, how big is the download for an upgrade from feisty to gutsy?10:48
lordofthepigsAce2016: You sound like you know something about it...10:48
basculehttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9479 <-- last post incase you care10:48
metiuzHi all10:48
Ace2016i have the same problem, hp laptop, using intel sound driver i think10:49
Ace2016snd-hda-intel10:49
metiuzi have 2 problems somebody can help me??10:50
Ace2016thats like saying i'd like to buy 2 thinks, how much will it cost? how are we supposed to know what you want to buy?10:50
lordofthepigsYeah, I use the intel sound driver too, but I have an Asus laptop10:51
lordofthepigsIt's quite annoying, because it worked in Feisty10:51
metiuz:/10:51
timrimetiuz: just ask :)10:51
lordofthepigsAlthough I kinda remember having to compile alsa and reinstall from source...10:51
Ace2016lordofthepigs: i had to add "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to get mine to work10:52
lordofthepigsI'll try that10:52
lordofthepigshow do I restart alsa after that?10:52
Ace2016you could just restart your computer10:52
metiuzi have problem with my ati x1550. i was download drivers to x1300/x1550 and i was installed. It doesn't work :/ please help me :)10:53
timrimetiuz: using the restricted driver manager on Gutsy?10:54
metiuzi have Feisty Fawn10:54
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lordofthepigsAce2016: do you also have many "options" line in alsa-base that don't seem to have anything to do with your sound chipset?10:55
timrimetiuz: Then I cant help you, sorry10:55
Ace2016yup10:56
metiuz:/10:56
lordofthepigslike snd-via82xx-modem10:56
Ace2016options snd-via82xx-modem index=-210:56
lordofthepigsokay... so I guess I can leave it10:56
lordofthepigsI'll try rebooting and see what happens10:56
addykWhy can't I get zsnes through sudo apt-get install zsnes ?11:02
addykis it because I have a 64-bit kubuntu ?11:03
lordofthepigsAce2016: Do you have any idea where I can find the list of options there are for snd-hda-intel?11:03
blekosi've install ssh, but how can i run it so i can log in remotely?11:03
ardchoille!ssh11:03
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/11:03
timriaddyk: You have universe repo enabled?11:04
timriblekos: You need ssh server of course11:04
Ace2016nope i got that info from the ubuntu forums, look there if that still hasn't worked11:04
blekoswhat i did is apt-get ssh11:04
sekharhello today i upgraded from ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10! Now i get the error video card not detected!! (my card is nvidia 6200)  ! it was working fine with 7.0411:04
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sekharplease help11:05
addyktimri, yes.11:05
addykcould it be the 64bit thing?11:05
timriblekos: thats the client. You will need packages openssh-server11:05
timriaddyk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588744&highlight=dfreer+zsnes11:06
pelletuthow do I send network message from Ubuntu ?11:06
addykThank timri11:07
addyk(thanks)11:07
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timripelletut: Look for "net send" on http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html11:10
pelletutok i try...11:11
sekharello today i upgraded from ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10! Now i get the error video card not detected!! (my card is nvidia 6200)  ! it was working fine with 7.0411:13
timrisekhar: Tried running nvidia-glx-config ?11:15
vbgunzhow do you get a list of packages you explicitly installed? something like spkg --get-packages? but only shows packages I explicitly installed and not dependencies?11:18
thomax__does anyone in here knows how to merge several PDF files into one ?11:24
pelletut_hey timri... any linux software that can be used for netsend in ubuntu ?11:27
timripelletut: smbclient11:28
Tm_Tpelletut_: Kopete can do too11:28
pelletut_Kopete ??...eehh...11:28
Tm_Tyes11:29
pelletut_ahaaa...i see now...11:29
timripelletut: if you are after a windows "net send" replacement, smbclient is the only one I know of11:29
Tm_T"winpopup" protocol11:29
Tm_Ttimri: we are talking about the same thing yes11:30
pelletut_yes i see ...but the win side pc then ...does it need a software to ?!11:30
Tm_Tnope11:30
Tm_Tnot that I know11:31
timriTm_T: Heh, I just went and added a Winpopup account in kopete. (I learnt something today :) )11:31
Tm_Ttimri: you're welcome11:31
lordofthepigsAce2016: I've had some success!11:31
lordofthepigsI can now hear static in my headphone when I'm at the login prompt11:31
timrilordofthepigs: :)11:31
lordofthepigswhich seems to indicate that it works at this point11:32
lordofthepigshowever, as soon as I log into kde, i lose the sound again11:32
lordofthepigsoh, no11:32
lordofthepigsI don't :)11:32
lordofthepigsI just had the volume to 0....11:32
lordofthepigsCool! it works!11:32
lordofthepigsit seems that options snd-hda-intel model=auto was what worked for me11:33
timrilordofthepigs: perhaps a good one to add to the bot11:33
lordofthepigshmm... how do you do that?11:34
lordofthepigsand How can I use the bot anyway?11:34
pelletut_okay..now i have a winpopup acc. in kopete...then what ?11:34
blekosin my work i have windows at home i have kubuntu, how can i see my home pc from work (vnc?)11:37
jpatrickblekos: if you've opened the right port on your router, yes11:37
lordofthepigstimri: according to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/138322 using options snd-hda-intel model=auto solves a lot of problems for a lot of people11:38
lordofthepigsso much actually, that one guy suggest using this as default value11:38
timrilordofthepigs: thx, someone should add it to the ubotu database11:38
lordofthepigsso how do you add that to the bot?11:39
timrilordofthepigs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots (sorry for delay - peeling potatoes)11:40
lordofthepigs:)11:40
lordofthepigs!snd-hda-intel11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snd-hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:41
lordofthepigs!hda-intel11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:41
blekosdo you know any tutorial on how i can do this?11:42
jpatrickblekos: do you have access to your router at home?11:42
lordofthepigsblekos: you need to install the vnc server on your home computer11:43
blekosyes11:43
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blekosi;ve install vncserver but i get the message11:45
blekosCouldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path.11:45
blekosPlease set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.11:45
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pepehello11:51
pepei have a problem with sound11:51
pepebefore installing ATI Drivers, the sound was ok11:51
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pepebut after it... it has a low volume11:52
bucatoamanopepe: ohi11:53
bucatoamanopepe: what kind of card do you have ?11:53
pepeRealtek ALC86111:54
bucatoamanopepe: xD the same of mine11:54
pepedo you know what is the problem?11:54
bucatoamanopepe: i have installed the realtek driver (alsa driver patched  fore realtek card )11:54
pepeand it was solved?11:55
bucatoamanopepe: i have solved but i have alc861-vd11:55
bucatoamanopepe: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56452011:56
bucatoamanopepe:  but i don t know if for your card can work.....anyway i have dowloaded the drivere for linux from realtek official webpage11:56
pepethanks11:56
pepei will try11:57
bucatoamanopepe: and i have seeen your card is supported11:57
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pepethanks for help :)11:58
pepeit was making me trouble11:58
bucatoamanopepe: :)12:00
Alarmwhats the difference between buffered and cached memory ?12:03
acemotheres still no kubuntu packages for kde4 beta 4?12:06
vzduchacemo: there have been for a while.. check out kde.org, they have some repos there12:08
vzduchplus installation instructions12:08
francohi everybody12:08
Lowehi!12:09
acemovzduch: i cant seem to find them.. :S12:32
vzduch!kde412:33
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php12:33
acemothats beta 3 packages12:33
vzduchso if there's an announcement for beta4, it should contain pkg links12:34
nosrednaekimI'm not sure if the beta4;s have been released yet, but if they have, they are i gutsy backports12:34
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acemonosrednaekim: kubuntu self didnt release them yet.. kde4 beta 4 is out for almost a week already now12:36
nosrednaekimI know.12:37
superbnerbola12:39
ubuntuhai12:43
nosrednaekimhey ubuntu, superbnerb12:43
Exploithow can i change the symbol of a reference on my desktop?12:47
nosrednaekimExploit: you mean an icon of a shortcut?12:47
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Tm_TTimS|away: nooooooo!12:48
Exploitnosrednaekim: yes12:50
Exploitnosrednaekim: i got something on my desktop and if i click on it it will start something in /..../.../...12:50
nosrednaekimExploit: right click on the shortcut and select properties12:50
Exploitok and where is it there=12:51
nosrednaekimclick on the little gear or icon in that window12:52
Exploitthe one for application/x-shell editing?12:53
nosrednaekimExploit: I guess, its the only clickable icon on the window12:55
Exploitok than it is it12:55
nosrednaekimthen select a new icon from the list..12:55
Exploiti see my shortcur is a shell script :)12:55
Exploithow can i add there my own symbol?12:56
nosrednaekimI think there is a little folder icon up at the top of that window..12:57
Exploityes found it. thank you :))12:57
Exploitnosrednaekim: the icon in the settings menue of the shortcut changed but not on my desktop :(12:58
nosrednaekimright click on the desktop and tell it to refresh12:59
tekteenanyone know how to create spanish characters (accented, etc) in kubuntu?12:59
Exploitno change.. still a white piece of paper with some code on it and a little shell box12:59
nosrednaekimooh! you have previews turned on!13:00
nosrednaekimthats a "preview" of the actualy document13:00
Exploitautomatic preview is off13:00
nosrednaekimreally?13:00
nosrednaekimhumph13:01
Exploityes. last tree the box is deactivated13:01
nosrednaekimso what exactly is it? a link to a shell script?13:01
Exploitdescription said its a Shell-Skript13:01
Exploiti got it from the directory i found it. its a programm i had to install by myself13:02
nosrednaekimahh ha... if you click it... what happens?13:02
Exploiti opende the thing with editor.. do you want the lines?13:03
Exploitit opens bluej (the program i want to start)13:03
nosrednaekimhmm ok13:04
Exploitdo you want the lines of the shortcut?13:04
nosrednaekimno...13:05
nosrednaekimJucato: got any clue on this?13:05
Jucatoum. what?13:06
Tm_TJucato: hug me13:06
Jucatowhy?13:06
Exploitnosrednaekim: the text on my actual icon looks like the first letters of the lines of the shortcut13:06
nosrednaekimExploit: how did you make the shortcut? link to application?13:06
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Exploiti think so13:07
Exploiti clicked it and draw it to my desktop13:07
Exploitthan i klicked on the second possibility13:08
nosrednaekimExploit: ah! there you go!13:09
nosrednaekimJucato: NMI figured it out.13:09
anton__Hi, what command can I use to kill a program? For example, my firefox complains about it is already running...what to do?13:09
Exploithmmm i got my icon in small!13:09
Exploitits instead of the little shell there now :(13:09
nosrednaekimExploit: delete that shortcut13:09
llutzanton__: killall firefox-bin13:09
Exploitokay13:09
nosrednaekimExploit: then right click->ad item->link to application13:09
Jucatoanton__: Ctrl+Esc to see the list of running processes and programs13:09
Exploitokay13:10
anton__?13:11
nosrednaekimthen put the command to be the path to your program, and set the title to be w/e and the select an icon13:11
Exploityah now i got my bird :)13:11
nosrednaekimthe thing you did before was put the actual shell script in the ~/Desktop directory.13:12
nosrednaekimwhich give a preview (and can screw up some programs)13:12
Exploitahhh okay thank you:)13:13
ShapeshifterI have a problem getting my dual head setup working correctly. I have two screens, one of them should run at 1600x1200@75 and one at 1600x1200@85, while the 75hz one is on the left and the 85hz one is on the right, and the 85hz one should be the primary one. So the seconadry screen is on the left. I also want to run two independet X screens.13:14
ShapeshifterThe nvidia drviers are installed correctly, but however I configure xorg.conf (with the kde tool, nvidia-settings or by editingit manually) I can't get it working that way. Whenever I log in the right/primary screen0 has a resolution of 1024x786 and both screens run at lower Hz then I want them to.13:14
ShapeshifterAfter the login I can go into nvidia-settings and manually change it to the correct values and that works, the monitors are capable of such resoultions and frequencies. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/760852 Could someone please help me get this working, yesterday I've been trying to get this working for two hours....13:14
nonewmsgs_now if i already have kubuntu and i want gnome toooo, and i already have an ubuntu cd, can i just use the cd instead of downloading all the stuffs from the net13:14
Jucatononewmsgs_: not if you only have a Desktop CD of Ubuntu13:15
nonewmsgs_ok - thanks13:15
nosrednaekimShapeshifter: I'm sorry, but i'm no Xorg guru :(13:15
nonewmsgs_me and apt are buddies anyway13:16
tekstacyhow do I install a .rpm in 7.10?13:18
nosrednaekim!rpm13:19
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)13:19
tekstacyI thought I read somewhere that 7.10 would allow support, but I guess not....    :(13:19
larryhi13:19
seezertekstacy: install 'alien'13:19
tekstacyI tried that, but it seems to screw up the package13:20
nonewmsgs_shapeshifter ive been reading your xorg and it looks perrfect to me :\13:20
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Exploitnosrednaekim: there is one more problem.. what do i have to write under "program" into the "command" line? if i write bluej he cannot start it because its not executable.. the file is a shellscript too13:20
tekstacynot ruling out the package is screwed up in the first place...it's from Verizon13:20
larryI have problem with bluetooth and 7.10,13:20
seezertekstacy: tried with option "-c"?13:21
larryCan someone help me?13:21
seezerotherwise all pre- or post installation tasks will not be converted into the deb file13:21
nosrednaekimExploit: you mean the workpath?13:22
tekstacyCOOL, I will try this, didn't know this.   Guess I should have read up a bit more13:22
MatBoyhey guys, are there also problem with krdc on Kubuntu ? It doesn't go fullscreen anymore on Gutsy Xubuntu13:22
Shapeshifternonewmsgs_: Yeah, I think that too, I just don't get it, why does X always forget my screen setup? I can change it back to what I want one I'm logged in but this is totally annoying :|13:22
MatBoy*problems13:22
Exploitnosrednaekim: i got a filed for "working directory" there is "/opt/bluej" now and under command "bluej" (thats the name of my file)13:23
nosrednaekimMatBoy: maybe there are problems with it running from inside XFCE ;)13:23
nosrednaekimno.... get rid of the working directory and put the whole path under command13:23
MatBoynosrednaekim, yep that is what I'm trying to find out... I have seen errors before on it13:23
MatBoybut that was months ago13:24
Exploitnosrednaekim: ahh now it works13:24
Exploitnosrednaekim: whats the working directory good for?13:24
seezertekstacy: i don't know if it will solve your problems - but it's worth a try ;)13:24
nosrednaekimIDK :D13:24
larrycan someone help me with bluetooth and Guetsy?13:25
tekstacyalso, isn't there a key you can hold down at boot to prevent x from starting?13:25
nosrednaekim!bluetooth | larry13:25
ubotularry: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup13:25
tekstacyseezer, it made the .deb fine, hopefully this one will work13:25
MatBoynosrednaekim, works ok on KDE ?13:26
tekstacywill stuff made for suse work on kubuntu?13:26
seezerchances are quite high. but this totaly depends on the package13:26
nosrednaekimMatBoy: I don't use it13:26
MatBoynosrednaekim, ok13:26
fiziKann mir jemand Helfen? http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/126905/13:27
Exploitokay thanks so much nosrednaekim! I'll go offline for now :)13:27
ExploitGoodbye everyone13:28
seezertekstacy: to prevent x from loading you have to write "single" to the end of your boot-line (in the grub menu press "e" at your kubuntu line, add "single" to the end of the "kernel" line, press "return" and press "b" to boot)13:28
seezerbut this also prevents most other daemons from beeing started13:29
seezer(for this single boot)13:29
seezerif you finished your work type 'init 2' and everything skipped gets loaded13:29
larryi have follow all, but i cant send file from pc to cell but no the revers13:29
tekstacyseezer, thanks13:30
tekstacyI installed the wrong ati driver and couldn't get back in to change it13:30
seezerah13:31
seezeryou don't have to reboot for that13:31
tekstacyseezer, the .deb installed fine, but it turns out the package is no good for me. But hey, it was a learning process13:32
seezer;)13:32
tekstacyhow do I do it without rebooting?13:32
nosrednaekimlarry: might want to search good for your cell phone model and linux13:33
nosrednaekim*google13:33
seezerwhat exactly are you trying to do?13:33
seezerchange the ati driver back to the old one?13:33
tekstacyget to a text login so I can dpkg-reconfigure x13:33
larrynosrednaekim, with 7.04 is all right, with 7.10 no13:34
seezertekstacy: press ctrl+alt+f113:34
tekstacy:)  unless you know a better way?13:34
nosrednaekimlarry: no clue... bluetooth is one of thise things which I have never tested, and don';t have the hardware to do so.13:34
tekstacythanks13:34
seezerctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back to the running X session13:34
seezerbut after reconfiguration you should restart kdm13:34
larryok thanks13:35
seezer/etc/init.d/kdm restart13:35
seezer(as root [sudo])13:35
nonewmsgs_now if i sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu6.10_AMD64 is it going to give me the 64bit ubuntu or the 32bit13:35
tekstacyToday I might install kubuntu on a super-badass box....13:36
tekstacyin BesyBuy13:36
tekstacyer BestBuy13:36
nosrednaekim6413:36
seezera super-badass box? :)13:36
tekstacyyup, you scoff at my superb technical terminology?   :)13:37
nonewmsgs_norednaekim excellant13:37
nonewmsgs_i think i hve a super-badass box, but i want to be sure13:38
tekstacyseezer, Yay! I got a text login!13:38
ShapeshifterI have a problem getting my dual head setup working correctly. I have two screens, one of them should run at 1600x1200@75 and one at 1600x1200@85, while the 75hz one is on the left and the 85hz one is on the right, and the 85hz one should be the primary one. So the seconadry screen is on the left. I also want to run two independet X screens.13:38
ShapeshifterThe nvidia drviers are installed correctly, but however I configure xorg.conf (with the kde tool, nvidia-settings or by editingit manually) I can't get it working that way. Whenever I log in the right/primary screen0 has a resolution of 1024x786 and both screens run at lower Hz then I want them to.13:38
ShapeshifterAfter the login I can go into nvidia-settings and manually change it to the correct values and that works, the monitors are capable of such resoultions and frequencies. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/760852 Could someone please help me get this working, yesterday I've been trying to get this working for two hours....13:38
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seezerShapeshifter: it works with nvida-settings loaded right?13:39
Jahmanhi13:40
Shapeshifterseezer: yes, after login I can change everything to the values I want13:40
anton__Hi, what command can I use to kill a program? For example, my firefox complains about it is already running...what to do?13:40
nosrednaekimhi Jahman13:40
seezerShapeshifter: tried "nvidia-settings -l" ?13:40
seezerthis only starts the tool, loads the config and exits back again13:40
ChaosMachineanton__, kill (pid)13:41
seezerif you put this into .xinitrc or something, it gets loaded whenever you login13:41
ChaosMachineanton__, or in kubuntu you can just use ctrl + esc for a graphical alternative.13:42
Shapeshifterseezer: The problem is, after login everything is wrong, and if I start nvidia-settings the configuration is actually wrong in there, too.13:42
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seezerShapeshifter: ah ok13:42
seezerand you press 'save to x configuration file' in nvidia-settings, right?13:42
mb999Hi all. Where do I go to report a bug in the upgrade to edgy?13:42
Shapeshifterseezer: Someone at #xorg just told me something about "preferredmode" but it seems not to apply to the nvidia driver or something like that13:43
mb999Getting a 404 error when trying to get a package list: http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz13:43
Shapeshifterseezer: yes, have  look at the xorg.conf, it looks right, doesn't it: http://pastebin.ca/76085213:43
nosrednaekimmb999: switch mirrors13:44
mb999I did13:44
anton__thanks!13:45
Shapeshifterseezer: Unfortunately I gtg now, you can leave me a message, I'll read it, thanks for you help13:45
mb999Went with the version upgrade. Changed to main server. Will try again with danish mirrors now. Thanks for the advice.13:45
seezerShapeshifter: ah sorry. missed that. i did all those things with "twin view" but you disabled that13:45
seezerhaven't had any problems with that (years ago..)13:45
tekstacyok, one more question.....13:45
seezerShapeshifter: i guess i can't help you in the finite time i have today..13:46
tekstacywhat's the easiest way to back up an entire hdd?13:46
mb999dd?13:46
ardchoilletekstacy: PartImage: http://sysresccd.org13:46
* tekstacy thumps head against wall13:47
ardchoilletekstacy: dd will copy the entire partition, PartImage will only copy the used portion of the partition13:47
tekstacyI have that and forgot about it.   Thanks13:47
ardchoillehehe13:47
jetsaredimcan someone point me to the set of commands to run to fix and recover a failed apt-get?13:48
nosrednaekimjetsaredim: what part failed..13:48
seezerjetsaredim: isn't apt or dpkg verbose enough?13:48
mb999Hmm. the dist upgrade still tries to access the flomertens.keo.in server no matter what mirror I select for the packages. Anybody have a workaround for this?13:49
jetsaredimwell13:49
jetsaredimI'm just getting normal updates through adept_updater13:50
jetsaredimbut for some reason during the install/configure step it keeps getting a failure13:50
nonewmsgs_mb999 are you deciding to just go to edgy, or do you want feisty/gutsy13:50
nosrednaekimmb999: you have to re get the package lists after changing the mirror13:51
mb999want the latest. I believe it's 7.10? I'm following the destructions on the website, and have the 'full upgrade' button available. it keeps barfing though when it's downloading.13:51
mb999sorry, 'version upgrade'13:51
mb999^- upgrade wizard thing, I believe.13:52
nonewmsgs_mb999 i would recomend a clean install.  even from just feisty to gutsy i have seen more systems break than upgrade correctly13:52
mb999ok. Was worth a try :) Thanks for the advice13:52
nosrednaekimmb999: you could always use the alternate CD to upgrade with13:52
mb999I think a clean install is in order. Now if I could just remember the crap I have installed?...13:53
nonewmsgs_mb999 the biggest thing is to just copy /home.  you can always get the latest versions of the programs you need13:53
newbehi all13:54
newbecould someone please explain to me how to deactivate the Kubuntu startup logo13:54
nonewmsgs_hey newbe13:54
newbeI want to see what Kubuntu is loading13:55
jpatricknewbe: you mean the usplash theme?13:55
newbeI don't like to just look at the startup sceen and don'T know what happen13:55
newbeI guess so13:55
jpatrick!usplash13:56
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork13:56
renecaneminkä takia osioinnin yhteydessä 200Gb kovosta löytyy vain 125Gb tilaa?13:56
atlfalcons866what program gives 3d effects13:57
newbejpatrick: yes it's the thing right after turning on the PC and after check the drives and stuff13:57
jpatrick!compiz | atlfalcons86613:57
ubotuatlfalcons866: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion13:57
atlfalcons866how do you make |13:57
jpatrick!fi | renecane13:57
uboturenecane: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi13:57
jpatrickatlfalcons866: depends on your keyboard13:58
atlfalcons866is 933MHz enough for effects13:58
tekstacyDoes Compiz help you get more done, or just look cool? Haven't tried it yet13:58
atlfalcons866is 933MHz enough for effects14:00
ardchoilletekstacy: Some people say it looks cool. I tried it and found it annoying14:00
newbejpatrick: I think you get me wrong. I'm talking about the kubuntu startscreen. It's the  thing that is shown wile kubuntu is starting and loading all the drivers and stuff14:01
tekstacy:)  thought it might be.14:01
newbeI don't know how to describe it better14:01
jpatricknewbe: yeah, that's usplash14:01
newbeyou turn on the computer then the HD and CDROM will be checked then you have a chance to decide which system you wanne start and then there is this bloody bootscree I wanne lose14:02
tekstacygtg, bye all. Thanks for the help14:03
seezerbye14:03
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tekstacyRemember, with MS Vista, failure is not an option14:03
tekstacyIt comes pre-installed14:04
newbejpatrick: how do I deactivate it14:05
ardchoillenewbe: You can get rid of that boot splash screen easily. Remove the word "splash" from your kernel line and defoptions in /boot/grub/menu.lst14:05
jpatrickas ardchoille says :)14:05
auserhello ?14:11
auserhow to add a node?14:11
ubunturos!hi | auser14:11
ubotuauser: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:11
auserthanks~14:11
ShapeshifterI have a problem getting my dual head setup working correctly. I have two screens, one of them should run at 1600x1200@75 and one at 1600x1200@85, while the 75hz one is on the left and the 85hz one is on the right, and the 85hz one should be the primary one. So the seconadry screen is on the left. I also want to run two independet X screens.14:16
ShapeshifterThe nvidia drviers are installed correctly, but however I configure xorg.conf (with the kde tool, nvidia-settings or by editingit manually) I can't get it working that way. Whenever I log in the right/primary screen0 has a resolution of 1024x786 and both screens run at lower Hz then I want them to.14:16
ShapeshifterAfter the login I can go into nvidia-settings and manually change it to the correct values and that works, the monitors are capable of such resoultions and frequencies. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/760852 Could someone please help me get this working, yesterday I've been trying to get this working for two hours....14:16
auseryou need install nvidia driver first14:19
Shapeshifterauser: It's installed correctly14:19
auserand use a command : dpkg-reconfigure14:19
ausersearch at internet, this command needs a parameter like xerver-***14:20
auserlike xserver-***14:20
auserthen will generate a xorg.conf14:20
jpatricksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg14:20
Shapeshifterauser: no I don't see why I woul need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. 1. Have a look at my xorg.conf, it's configured very well, and 2. I use nvidia-settings to generate the xorg.conf14:21
ausernow is ok, edit the configure file, delete the 1600x1200 and so on14:21
ausergenerate a new xorg.conf, it's old format14:22
Shapeshifterauser: why? ^^ I don't get it, I _want_ to have it 1600x1200. What do you mean it's old format, what's wrong with the xorg.conf?14:23
DexterFhow do I "scan" a network for windows shares?14:26
auserwant to use ?14:27
ausersorry ,  never thought about it14:27
ausermay be your vedio card not support this14:28
Shapeshifterauser: !  It does ^^ Just after logging in I can change everything in nvidia-settings to the values I want, and everything is fine but if I log off and log in again evereything is back to the wrong settings14:29
ausernvidia-settings does not work ?14:29
Shapeshifterauser: Yes it does ^^ Just as I said, I can configure the screen to the correct values just after the login and everything is fine, I can also write to xorg.conf but after log off and log on the lower resolutions and freqs are back.14:31
auseri delete all of my configures but 1024x768  :)14:33
auserso it works fine14:33
auserand i don't want to change14:33
ausershapeshifter: where are you from ?14:35
Shapeshifterauser: germany14:38
auserlot's is germany :)14:39
zen_sound problems with kubuntu ?14:41
zen_anybody?14:41
zen_problemas de sonido en kubuntu14:41
methodsi thought the ubuntu book came with a pdf version on the cd ?14:42
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kanamalhello everybody...14:45
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nonewmsgs_where can i get emerald fusion themes?  i tried the button in emerald and i tried apt-get install emerald-themes14:54
awagnonewmsgs_, try compiz-themes.com, the emerald button didn't work for me either14:56
nonewmsgs_thanks14:56
al114:56
awagwait14:56
awagsorry, .org14:56
awagnot .com14:56
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nonewmsgs_orgs are more fun anyway14:57
awaghehe14:57
nonewmsgs_now on that site they have k themes, beryl themes and compiz themes.  will a beryl theme work with fusion15:00
ShapeshifterI have a problem getting my dual head setup working correctly. I have two screens, one of them should run at 1600x1200@75 and one at 1600x1200@85, while the 75hz one is on the left and the 85hz one is on the right, and the 85hz one should be the primary one. So the seconadry screen is on the left. I also want to run two independet X screens.15:14
ShapeshifterThe nvidia drviers are installed correctly, but however I configure xorg.conf (with the kde tool, nvidia-settings or by editingit manually) I can't get it working that way. Whenever I log in the right/primary screen0 has a resolution of 1024x786 and both screens run at lower Hz then I want them to.15:14
ShapeshifterAfter the login I can go into nvidia-settings and manually change it to the correct values and that works, the monitors are capable of such resoultions and frequencies. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/760852 Could someone please help me get this working, yesterday I've been trying to get this working for two hours....15:14
Alarmthats call copy paste  !15:14
ShapeshifterAlarm: yep. refreshing my problem.15:14
JucatoShapeshifter: since you seem to be having no luck with your issue in here, you might want to try and check ubuntuforums.org and kubuntuforums.net15:15
ShapeshifterJucato: Yes I'm doing this right now, also checking #xorg and #nvidia. :|15:15
AlarmJucato, every installed a kde theme ?15:15
Jucatonot lately15:16
JucatoAlarm: you can do it graphically if you install the kdmtheme package, then go to System Settings -> Appearance -> KDM Theme Manager15:16
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Alarmexcept of the kth files that can easily be installed from the theme manager, how on earth to i install themes that are like gz files ?15:16
gaspipe1hello all15:16
AlarmJucato,  thats for theme files. how about themes that are being downloaded as gz files15:16
JucatoAlarm: no. I said **KDM** Theme Manager. not KDE Theme Manager (which isn't in System Settings anyway)15:17
Jucatoer wait lol15:17
Jucatoroflmao sorry not reading red text well today15:17
Alarmwell kdm theme manager doenst open gz files :)15:17
Alarmhehe15:17
Jucatowhat kind of a theme is it? that's always the first question.15:18
icewatermanhi, i am using kubuntu and i have problems with the free radeon driver for my r300 (radeon 9700 pro). mostly google-earth is so slow and shows wrong 3d images15:18
Alarmwell one of them is a macos style one , and the second a vista one15:18
Alarmwhen uncompressing it it includes folders like arrows, gtk and stuff like that15:18
Alarmdownloaded them from kde-look15:18
JucatoAlarm: what specifically? is it a widget Style,  window decoration? etc?15:19
Alarmtheme for kde, to change windows appearance15:19
Alarmlet me find one link15:19
Alarmexample: http://www.debian-art.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme?content=1354815:20
Alarmor http://www.debian-art.org/content/show.php/LiNsta+3+%28Linux+is+Not+Vista%29?content=4457015:20
JucatoAlarm: er.. Type:  GTK 2.x Theme/Style15:20
Jucatothat means it's a style for GTK, which GNOME uses....15:20
gaspipe1anyone check out ultimate ubuntu?15:20
Jucatoicewaterman: can you type this command in Konsole: glxinfo | grep render15:21
Alarmokie, so i need kde ones15:21
Wolven_Pariah_UKjava has gone nuts...it keeps trying to force me to install it but that causes my adept to lock up...15:21
JucatoAlarm: definitely...15:21
JucatoAlarm: both are GTK themes. you won't be able to use those15:21
Alarmquestion. installing it , would change just the appearance of my kde environment or also of all the applications15:21
Alarmhttp://www.debian-art.org/content/show.php/Baghira?content=8692 isnt. i did find one baghira in my repo .but wasnt working that well , saw many issues with it15:22
Alarmto have a qood question, what are the gtk themes exactly ?15:22
Alarmthemes just for gtk apps ?15:22
tomg_does your baghira sscrew up the gtk-qt engine?15:22
tomg_icewaterman: why not use fglrx?15:23
tomg_icewaterman: ie binary15:23
sydhi15:23
sydi've some problems with console in my kubuntu 7.10 x6415:24
sydi can use my X server, everything works good15:24
JucatoAlarm: GTK is the GUI library that GNOME uses for its user interface. so yes, GTK themes are for GTK apps, which would be GNOME apps too15:24
sydbut when i want to use console (ctrl+alt+f1)15:24
eagles0513875syd:  what problems i am running the 64bit and have no problems with my console15:24
Alarmokie15:24
sydi can see only black screen15:24
sydand nothing more15:25
tomg_syd: what gfx card u have?15:25
sorinhi guys ! i try to mount an external hdd an i can't do this because hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100015:25
eagles0513875tomg_: i have that same issue i just noticed that15:25
sydi can return to X server15:25
eagles0513875syd: i have that same issue when i do ctrl alt f115:25
tomg_eagles0513875: i think ill try a new qt-gtk enigne version if i can find one15:25
sydi've tried to change vga mode in grub list (vga=791), but it doesn15:25
Wolven_Pariah_UKadept wont install anything...15:25
syd...work :p15:25
icewatermantomg_: because fglrx are binary only drivers and i use a self-compiled kernel (too much to do to get the ati module working with that kernel)15:26
icewatermanand the binary driver also sucks15:26
sydwhat can be wrong with it?15:26
eagles0513875i dont use it that much to bother with it15:26
sorinplease any solution?15:26
Jucatoicewaterman: did you run the command I gave?15:26
icewatermanJucato: not yet : direct rendering: Yes15:26
icewatermanOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 8x TCL15:26
Jucatoah that might be your problem...15:27
icewaterman?15:27
icewatermanis mesa too old?15:27
tomg_icewaterman: well the open source one is slower than fglrx, imho, but it is pretty buggy, becuase its reverse enigneered isnt it15:28
JucatoMesa is a software OpenGL renderer.. it will always be slower compared to 3D hardware acceleration (provided by the usually proprietary drivers)15:28
icewatermanJucato: well but the command also said direct rendering was set to yes15:28
sydsomething gone wrong, i'll repeat15:28
syd[16:23] <syd> hi15:29
* Jucato really knows very little about the ATI drivers...15:29
syd[16:24] <syd> i've some problems with console in my kubuntu 7.10 x6415:29
syd[16:24] <syd> i can use my X server, everything works good15:29
syd[16:24] <syd> but when i want to use console (ctrl+alt+f1)15:29
icewatermanand before i migrated to ubuntu it ran fine on debian etch15:29
syd[16:24] <syd> i can see only black screen15:29
syd[16:25] <syd> and nothing more15:29
syd[16:25] <syd> i can return to X server15:29
syd[16:25] <syd> i've tried to change vga mode in grub list (vga=791), but it doesn15:29
syd[16:25] <syd> ...work :p15:29
syd[16:26] <syd> what can be wrong with it?15:29
tomg_icewaterman direct rendering is different to hardware acceleration15:29
icewatermansyd: will /etc/init.d/kdm restart help?15:29
Jucatosyd: try not to flood next time...15:29
sydicewaterman: x works very vell15:30
icewatermantomg_: it worked with the same kernel on debian (with hardware acceleration)15:30
icewatermansyd: you said you cannot return with ctrl+alt+f715:30
sydi can return15:30
icewatermansyd: what is your problem then?15:31
sydconsole doesn't work15:31
sydit's only black screen15:31
tomg_icewaterman: hmmm i guess ill not talk you into binary drivers, could try compiling them from git for latest features/bugfixes15:31
icewatermansyd: self-compiled kernel?15:31
sydno15:31
sydoriginaln with kubuntu 7.1015:31
icewatermansyd: change to tty2 instead of tty115:31
syddoesn't work15:32
icewatermantomg_: binary drivers are not much more stable and binary after all (= more difficult to debug if at all)15:32
icewatermansyd: logout and have kdm return you to console15:32
sydi had problems like that, but changin vga mode in kernel section helped15:32
icewatermansyd: i am not using any framebuffer driver and it works fine here15:33
sydbut i cant see anything before x starts15:33
tomg_icewaterman i dont want to go into the binary v open source driver debate, i just use what works best, and would it be that much of a chore to compile fglrx from the ati webstie?15:33
icewatermantomg_: it is if you want to get it running with a patched kernel15:34
icewatermantomg_: my kernel is heavily patched and amd64 not i386 so i doubt ati binary will do any better15:34
tomg_icewaterman wouldnt it be worth 20 mins try?15:35
tomg_icewaterman i know its not ideal (i have intel :-) yaay) but sometimes its the only way for things to work right15:36
tomg_icewaterman whats the worst that could happen :D15:37
icewatermantomg_: well my system could crash and not awaken again :)15:40
RabidDog_Hey there Guys n gals.  Using Open Office Writer for first time.  Would like to format the doc different so that it is a continuous page.  Can that be done?15:40
tomg_icewaterman lol you can always boot into failsafe, ull b fine :P15:40
icewatermantomg_: actually i cannot :)15:41
icewatermantomg_: i use a non-standard ubuntu :)15:41
icewatermanor lets say i have altered bootmanager etc.15:41
icewatermanthere is no failsafe :)15:41
icewatermanbut it reminds me i should add that15:41
tomg_icewaterman well you could edit grub at the prompt lol15:42
icewatermantomg_: afaik its a kernel option, right15:42
icewatermanthen i can add that as a parameter15:43
tomg_icewaterman to insert the fglrx module?15:43
sayersHow do I rip in flac with k315:43
icewatermantomg_: i didnt even download the ati installer - so no15:43
tomg_icewaterman: sorry, i dont know what youre asking :S15:44
icewatermantomg_: the ati installer once rendered another system of mine unbooteable (i've been trying to avoid that ever since ) and so far my system was quite stable15:44
tomg_icewaterman: ah so thats why youre scared :)15:45
icewatermantomg_: actually i hope to get that radeon driver regression bug fixed)15:45
tomg_icewaterman lol fair enough15:45
icewatermantomg_: i did a little forensics that time and found out that the ati driver had killed my swap partition when i entered suspend-to-disk/ram15:46
tomg_icewaterman: ati as in binary or oss?15:46
icewatermanbinary15:46
tomg_icewaterman: what version?15:46
icewatermantomg_: don't remeber15:46
icewatermanwas ~1 year ago15:47
icewatermanin ubuntu on my laptop15:47
tomg_icewaterman: it will have improved by now then :D15:47
ubuntuhi15:47
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icewatermantomg_: the only binary driver i'd install is the nvidia gfx driver (that one was at least working well)15:48
n00bhi15:48
icewatermanbut not with ati cards unfortunately15:48
angasulehmm, frets on fire doesn't work right, at all, even with the tutorial, anybody else having trouble with it?15:48
n00bi  got    a  question  how   do  i reinstall  grub  ?15:49
n00bgot  daul  boot  here15:49
LjLn00b: depends   how   you   removed   it,   but   in    general15:49
LjL!grub15:49
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:49
tomg_icewaterman: well the ati has improved since amd's takeover, ive heard15:49
b_hello ,i have a big trouble15:52
b_when i closed all windows and open language installer,"database locked - adept batch" why??15:53
Jucato!aptfix | b_15:54
icewatermantomg_: btw. tuxracer works fine @60fps+ (1024x768)15:54
b_who knows why , thanks first15:54
Jucatohm...15:54
Jucatobot seems to be slow...15:54
ubotub_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:54
LjLwas working a minute ago15:54
LjLjust a little lagged :|15:54
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Jucato!botsnack15:56
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!15:56
Jucatohe just needed some food :)15:56
eagles0513875!welcome | ubotu15:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:57
eagles0513875!hi | ubotu15:57
ubotuubotu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:57
eagles0513875are there any python ide's15:57
Jucato!info eric3 | eagles051387515:58
ubotueagles0513875: Package eric3 does not exist in gutsy15:58
ardchoilleeagles0513875: There are a few: eric15:58
Jucatoer...15:58
eagles0513875!eric315:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eric3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:58
Jucatoyeah. eric15:58
Jucatono 3 I guess...15:58
ardchoille!eric15:58
eagles0513875!eric15:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eric - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:58
eagles0513875!info eric15:58
ubotueric: full featured Python IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9.5-1 (gutsy), package size 1907 kB, installed size 11460 kB15:58
eagles0513875sweet time to download15:58
Jucatoeagles0513875: if you want info about a package, use !info <packagename>15:58
Jucatothe !word only works for factoids, not package info15:59
ardchoilleAh, right15:59
eagles0513875Jucato: ahhhh ok ty for the info15:59
Jucatothen !find <term> searches for a package with "term" and !search <term> searches for a factoid with "term"15:59
Exploithi there. i need flash for youtube... (http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash) this URL saud16:00
b_thank you ubotu,it's very kind of u16:00
Exploitsaid YouTube.. which package should i install?16:00
pag!flash | Exploit16:00
ubotuExploit: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash16:00
JucatoExploit: flashplugin-nonfree16:00
Jucato!thanks | b_16:00
ubotub_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:00
ExploitJucato: i know i'll try the guide16:01
icewatermanExploit: youtube will also work with the free flash plugin (however most other sites wont)16:01
Jucatowhat guide? all you need is to install flashplugin-nonfree :)16:01
Exploitsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree <-- will it install flash for firefox?16:03
Jucatofor everything16:03
eagles0513875!info flashplugin-nonfree16:03
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)16:03
Exploita16:03
b_u means you are just a robot??? a machine??16:03
Exploitthank you16:03
b_i can't believe that16:04
eagles0513875b_: ?16:04
b_ubotu said he is a bot,,,,,16:04
Exploitwow apt-get is the greatest thing i ever saw!16:04
eljefe_why can't i find/install w32codecs and libdvdcss2?  i tried yesterday here but we couldn't solve it.16:05
Jucatob_: it is a bot16:05
b_but how a bot.....so clever!!i think16:05
eljefe_!ubotu16:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:05
maurohi how I can to increase the speed of my adsl connection on kubuntu?16:05
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b_i love u ubotu16:06
eagles0513875!llove16:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about llove - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:06
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ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.16:06
eagles0513875lol16:06
Tm_T!botabuse16:06
b_the bot humun16:06
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...16:06
eljefe_aah, I found the dvdcss and w32codecs in medibuntu16:09
Tm_Tgood16:09
eljefe_why isn't Medibuntu an option from source-o-matic?16:10
Tm_Teljefe_: hum, it isnt?16:10
eljefe_not at all16:10
Tm_T!source-o-matic16:10
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic16:10
b_want type chinese ,how to do ubotu16:11
eljefe_nor is it preincluded in the sources.list16:11
b_ubotu, i want type chinese ,where to choose.do you know thank you16:12
Tm_Teljefe_: because of legal issues then16:12
code_xhello, i need  some help, i have installed "flashplugin-nonfree" and "konqueror-nsplugin" and when i visit "youtube.com" i still can't get to see the video ? do i need to install another package ?16:12
code_xthanks16:12
hydrogen!ch | b_16:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:12
hydrogen!chinese | b_16:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:12
hydrogen!cn | b_16:12
ubotub_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk16:12
LjL!chinese is <alias> cn16:12
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL16:12
salvatore_Salve!16:12
LjL!it | salvatore_16:13
ubotusalvatore_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:13
intExDKHey. I've got a .img-file. I don't know how to burn that format in Kubuntu. Anybody who can help?16:13
salvatore_Ok, sorry!16:13
code_x hello, i need  some help, i have installed "flashplugin-nonfree" and "konqueror-nsplugin" and when i visit "youtube.com" i still can't get to see the video ? do i need to install another package ?16:13
b_i mean language choose place ,where16:13
eagles0513875im having an issue with java and fire fox16:14
eljefe_Tm_T: I tried making myself from many differernt places to see if the list would change, it doesn't16:14
eagles0513875i have java6 jdk and jre runnin but for some reason firefox isnt seeing it16:14
b_!cn16:14
eagles0513875!cn16:14
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk16:14
b_what's the meaning of "!cn"16:15
eagles0513875chinese16:15
eljefe_it tells the bot to talk about a chinese forum16:15
code_xhello, i need  some help, i have installed "flashplugin-nonfree" and "konqueror-nsplugin" and when i visit "youtube.com" i still can't get to see the video ? do i need to install another package ?16:15
torrezhola algún programa para capturar imagen desde la webcam?16:15
eljefe_!es16:15
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.16:15
ardchoilleb_: It's a trigger, it tells the bot to post the factoid associated with that trigger16:15
ardchoillePlease don't play with the bot.16:15
LjLb_, i don't really know, but i think installing the "language-pack-kde-zh" package would be a good start16:16
b_i'm using kubuntu, and just want to choose the type tool.i cant find it ,i have download the language package already16:16
pagcode_x, Settings -> Configure Konq. -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins16:17
LjLb_: is there nothing in K / System Settings / Regional & Language?16:17
hydrogenb_: to type in chinese I think you need to use skim16:17
hydrogenbut not sure about thta16:18
LjLb_: perhaps some info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu16:19
b_thanks LjL,there is no language surpose in my "system">16:21
LjLb_: if you *can* speak chinese, why don't you try joining #ubuntu-cn anyway? they'll probably know better than us16:21
soenkehallo16:22
b_and my kubuntu version is 7.10.so the image discript may 6.0616:23
b_LjL.i need your help .because there is no kubuntu users there,i don't think u....as same as k.....16:25
LjLb_, but i mostly just use english, and have hardly ever messed with language setup :\16:26
b_soorry.my fault.thx all the same16:28
unpersonHi.  I have an install of Kubuntu 7.4 (Feisty) that I'd like to upgrade to 7.10 (gusty).  I see instructions here:16:28
unpersonhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading16:28
ignoramusNeed help!  How do I change the default search engine in 7.10? For example, if i mistype a URL, it currently redirects to RCN's page... I'd like Google to be default16:29
aUserOfIRC可以用中文了16:29
aUserOfIRCexit16:29
unpersonBut if I want to do this remotely via ssh, can I just follow the instructions on that page for server?16:29
ignoramusThis occurs both in firefox and in konqueror16:30
unpersonWhat's RCN?16:30
ignoramusAn ISP16:31
unpersonignoramus, So presumably this is your ISP's DNS doing this, not kubuntu.16:31
ignoramusunperson: is there a way i can change this? Their search page sucks, and Google usually redirects to the proper page, while RCN gives unrelated results16:32
unpersonignoramus, Sorry, I don't know how you tell kubuntu to make mistyped URLs do a search, but if you ISP DNS returns stuff, I'd think that there's no way for the browser to know it's a mistyped URL, you know?16:32
unpersonignoramus, Assuming I'm interpreting what's going on correctly (and I may not be, as I don't know a lot about it)...16:33
ignoramusunperson: i understand, i was hoping there was a script i could run or a force-command that would supercede or executive before the DNS redirect16:33
unpersonignoramus, I'm not sure there's much you can do unless you can change your DNS settings to use a different DNS server not controlled by your ISP.16:33
unpersonignoramus, Maybe.  I'm not sure how the redirection works.  Does it send you to some generic page with a timed redirect, or does it return a page directly as though it's the one you requested.16:34
unperson?16:34
ignoramusunperson: I remember in Windows, if i typed a URL incorrectly (ie, youutbe.com), it would redirect to MSN Search... but since i've installed Kubuntu, it goes to RCN.  Of course, my ISP could have changed settings...16:34
unpersonignoramus, Yeah, I don't know.  Hopefully there's someone here more knowledgable than me.16:35
unperson:-)16:35
unpersonignoramus, You could also try the kde channel for help, since presumably the question would apply equally well to any KDE.16:35
unpersonignoramus, Or you could try ##linux.16:35
unpersonMy ISP (Speakeasy) doesn't pull these shenanigans, so I just don't have any experience.16:36
ignoramusunperson: Also, when Google was my default search, i used to be able to type "youtube" by itself in the address bar, and google would interpret properly.  Now, i get this helpful bit: http://www17.searchresults.rcn.com/search?qo=youtube&rn=G4KJScDjlshEM8X16:36
unpersonignoramus, I see.  Well, maybe I'm all wet on the issue.  I'd look for other advice.  :-\16:37
ignoramusunperson: thx anyway :)16:38
antonskyhi how do i unrar many files with one command?16:40
antonskysometh=ing like for $i=ls16:41
ignoramusantonsky: are they all in one directory?16:41
ardchoillefor i in *; do unrar $i; done16:41
unpersonignoramus, I will say that that last situation is probably different, in that the browser can recognize something is not a well-formed URL at all.16:41
antonskyyes16:41
fairmanhi, how can i stop compiz on my Kubuntu? Something as compiz --quit ... :)16:41
antonskythx16:41
ignoramusfairman: if all esle fails, kill the process in KSysGuard :)16:41
antonskywhat does "for i in *" do?16:42
bazhangfairman: hit alt +f2 then type kwin --replace16:42
webvictimantonsky: iterates through everything in *16:43
ignoramusunperson: in that last example, I would notice that my browser would contact Google, and then redirect me to the page i wanted.  Now, it connects immediately to RCN16:43
fairmanbazhang: thanks, it works :)16:43
webvictimlike "for i in `ls -l`"16:43
webvictimthat would iterate through every file in a directory16:43
webvictim(although there are nicer ways of doing it)16:43
bazhangfairman: to get compiz back just repeat, except alt +f2 compiz --replace16:44
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fairmanbazhang: yes, of course, thanks.16:44
bazhangfairman: no problem16:44
ardchoillewebvictim: I don't thing that works with filenames that have spaces16:46
dabishola16:49
dabisalguno conoce algun programa para codificar videos (por ejemplo los AVi que se generan de la camara de fotos) a DIVX XVID o similar?16:50
bazhang!es | dabis16:50
ubotudabis: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.16:50
dabisook16:50
dabisgracias16:50
bazhangno problem16:50
nzkFirefox is giving me problems - for instance unrecoverably freezing my system, requiring a hard reboot. Is there a way to fix this?16:51
dabisanybody knows an application to encode AVI videos (from de digital camera for example) to DIVX or XVID?16:51
nzkdabis: avidemux16:51
nzkOr mencoder16:52
dabisit does not import the audio track and it is not encoded. I think that it is on WAV16:52
bazhangnzk: using Gutsy?16:52
nzkbazhang: Yes, it was the cause of my problems. The whole Firefox-randomly-and-unrecoverably-crashing-and-freezing thing happened immediately after I upgraded.16:53
dabisthanks for all! Bye16:53
bazhangnzk: I had the same issue initially as well--I disabled javascript for a while, then when some more upgrades came along--firefox I believe, it went away--don't know why though16:54
Wolven_Pariah_UKhow do i fix adept? i wont let me install anything unless i install java which glitches16:55
nzkbazhang: Let me try that.16:55
bazhangnzk: what triggered it for me was autosave in wordpress (blog) --finally can use it now--javascript really is essential, moreso than flash even16:56
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vzduchWolven_Pariah_UK: what's the problem?16:57
nzkbazhang: It seems to be <textareas> for me...16:57
Wolven_Pariah_UKi tried to install sun-java but it glitched...after unlocking adept it wont let me install anything (.debs work) unless i finish installing sun-java but that glitches at 23%16:58
bazhangnzk: let me know how it goes.16:58
icewatermanWolven_Pariah_UK: kill it and then do sudo apt-get -f install16:59
Wolven_Pariah_UKit tries to install it...16:59
Wolven_Pariah_UKif i say yes it opens window with documentation with OK in the middle but no way to say OK17:00
icewatermanWolven_Pariah_UK: ever heard of the tab key?17:00
bazhangWolven_Pariah_UK: you have to tab to the ok, then hit return17:00
Wolven_Pariah_UKill try that..17:01
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Wolven_Pariah_UKhmmm its not doing the menu anymore...17:02
Alyxanderhey room17:06
Alyxanderanyone runnning compiz on 7.10 kubuntu with an ati express ?17:06
Alyxanderhello17:09
jhutchinsI'd take that as a "no".17:09
chronosI'm having problems with my KDE. I just replaced compiz with  kwin, but since I have, my system has been so laggy that I can literally see it drawing the screen and refreshing it. HELP!17:11
Alyxanderwow very active room lol17:12
TaminQuick question: what are the default entries for uid 110, 113, and 118 in /etc/<passwd, shadow>?17:13
Tamin(I imagine 118 is smmsp, but am not sure; trying to repair said files after a mishap)17:14
bazhangAlyxander: what's your question?17:15
webvictimdoes anyone know how you stop compiz shading your windows when you double-click the title bar?17:15
webvictimi want it to maximize/restore them instead17:16
rgreeningwebvictim : go through the compiz settings manager17:16
angasulewebvictim: hmm, check the compiz configure thingie, or ask in #compiz-fusion17:16
Dr_williswebvictim,  use the ccsm tool. I think its under the general tab17:16
webvictimi know how to change the global KDE behaviour, but it doesn't seem to make any difference17:16
webvictimheh, i've had a good look through17:16
webvictimcan't seem to find the option17:16
angasulewebvictim: the COMPIZ configuration17:16
rgreeningwebvictim: 1sec..17:16
bazhangwebvictim: that should be under the plugin window decorations or in general forgot which17:17
angasulewebvictim: the command to start it is 'ccsm'17:17
webvictimangasule: yes thanks, i know that17:17
webvictimah, i found it17:17
webvictimit's in the emerald-theme-manager17:17
webvictim:)17:17
bazhang:}17:18
TaminAnyone?17:18
bazhangTamin: what's your question?17:19
TaminWhat are the default entries for uids 110. 113, and 118 in /etc/<passwd, shadow>17:19
Dr_willisI see no entry for 118 in that file17:19
Taminhmm17:19
Dr_willisavahi:x:106:113:Avahi mDNS daemon,,,:/var/run/avahi-daemon:/bin/false17:20
Dr_willismythtv:x:110:120::/home/mythtv:/bin/sh17:20
Taminare you on 6.06?17:20
Dr_willisHeck No.17:20
Taminhmm17:20
Dr_willis:)17:20
Tamingreat; thanks anyway :)17:21
BluesKajHowdy all ... friend sent me a .mkv video file , but I have no way of converting it to mpeg/dvd ... someone have an idea which converter/codec I should use?17:22
ShapeshifterWhere are any kdm / kde scripts located that run upon user login?17:23
shadowhywindwhat is the fsck command for a fat32 partition?17:23
angasuleShapeshifter: ~/.kde/Autostart17:24
tekstacyhow do I copy the menus, settings, apps, etc.. to other user accounts?17:24
LjLshadowhywind: fsck17:24
angasuleshadowhywind: fsck.vfat might also be it, if straight fsck doesn't work17:24
ShapeshifterAnd which of them affect screen resolutions. It doesn't matter what I put into my xorg.conf, I have _no mentioning whatsoever_ in my xorg.conf of "1024x786" and it still starts the session with that resolution. I only have "1600x1200" and it should start like that -.- ... Thx angasule17:24
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  i think that avidmux program can convert them17:24
shadowhywindany special flags to correct issues?17:24
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angasuleshadowhywind: no idea, I don't use fat any more17:25
bazhangBluesKaj: does vlc not work?17:25
angasuleShapeshifter: oh, that's another issue17:25
angasuleShapeshifter: do you have an nvidia card? ati? or what is it?17:25
shadowhywindhehe, once the my new wireless card comes, I wont be needing the fat partition anymore either17:26
BluesKajbazhang, it plays the mkv files yes, but I want to convert the file to mpeg for stand alone dvd playback17:26
Shapeshifterangasule: you know something about it? I don't get it, I'm so frustrated, been trying to make this happen for hours! nvidia, driver is installed correcty, everything ok, I can configure the two screens I have, but even if I use only one single screen, if I log off and back in the goddamn low resolution is back. I checked xorg.conf, I edited it so far that it can _only_ be 1600x1200 and nothing else and still it doesn't work :|17:27
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  it may be gettting the "EID" info from the monitor and getting it wrongly. I think theres some xorg.conf option to ignore that EID stuff.17:27
angasuleShapeshifter: run: kdesu nvidia-settings17:27
ShapeshifterI mean if I'm logged in and use nvidia-settings, I can set up everything the way I want. I save the settings, write xorg.conf, log off and in, and there's the low resolution back on my primary screen17:27
shadowhywindWhen i run fsck, It comes back with an issue to correct or not correct. I select correct and it says its leaving the system unchanged, any ideas?17:28
bazhangBluesKaj: sorry--my misunderstanding perhaps avidemux, as Dr_willis suggested17:28
angasuleShapeshifter: but yeah, I have had issues like that, nvidia cards use proprietary drivers that don't play well with others17:28
ShapeshifterDr_willis: sounds plausible, I'll have a look at that.17:29
angasuleShapeshifter: I'd try kdesu nvidia-settings so that nvidia-settings is run as root, it might help, worth a try :)17:29
Alyxanderanyone have and ati?17:29
Shapeshifterangasule: yes, I'm always running nvidia-settings as root.17:29
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BluesKajnope, bazhang Dr_willis ,I don't see any mkv options in avidemux17:29
shadowhywindto save nvidia-settings xorg, it has to be root17:29
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?17:29
franciscohola17:29
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  ive done it under windows befor  i belive. :) with the windows version. aint tried the Gutsy version yet17:29
franciscoalguien me puede ayudar17:29
franciscoestoy intentando que me funcione kradio17:30
* Dr_willis looks for a mkv video17:30
bazhangBluesKaj: perhaps Handbrake?17:30
bazhanghttp://handbrake.m0k.org/17:30
* BluesKaj tries avidmux anyway ...taking a while to load 17:31
BluesKajerr avidemux17:31
Shapeshifteruh, what's the difference between kdesu and sudo btw? ^^17:31
franciscohola alguien me puede decir cual es el canal en español17:32
shadowhywind!kdesu17:32
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:32
BluesKajkdesu for gui , sudo for cli (konsole)17:32
bazhang!es | francisco17:32
ubotufrancisco: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.17:32
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franciscogracias17:32
angasuleshadowhywind: thanks, I didn't know :)17:32
shadowhywindthat was informational to me. i did not know we had to change to kdesudo in gutsy17:33
Shapeshiftershadowhywind: interesting17:33
shadowhywindkdesu was working, hehe17:33
BluesKajyeah, same here ,kdsesu sems to work tho17:33
BluesKajerr kdesu17:34
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?17:34
Dr_willisavidemux loads a .mkv here. :)17:34
fdovingshadowhywind: kdesu in gutsy links to kdesudo, using kdesu the same way as usual should work just fine. that's the idea anyway.17:34
BluesKajsomething's happening with avidemux, it's taking up 100% cpu but I don't see waht's going on17:35
Dr_willisavidemux can take some practice to get working right.17:36
Dr_willisI normally use it to convert avi's to smaller xvid format for my portable player17:37
ShapeshifterDr_willis: I was able to turn off edid checking in xorg.conf but it still keeps changing the resolution upon login. Btw while in the kdm login it displays the correct resolution, just upon loging in it switches to the lower res.17:38
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  err.. You DO realize that each user can have their own specific Video res setting?17:38
rahulhi I needed some help with grub2 I don't want to reboot in case I get stuck17:38
Dr_willis:)17:38
Dr_willismy wife has her desktop set to a lower res. then what i use.17:38
Dr_willisKDM is the same.. but as soon as she logs in it goes to a lower res.17:38
ShapeshifterDr_willis: Yeah, ok, but where is that resolution defined? If not in xorg.conf, then where?17:39
Dr_willisIts in the users settings somewhere.17:39
Dr_willisI havent messed with that in a long time. :) lets see17:39
rahulwhen I installed grub-pc i got errors with grub-probe error: unknown filesystem17:39
Dr_willisPerhrials -> monitors17:39
superiorhi, meine Taskbar zeigt keine offenen Programme mehr an. Weiss jemand woran das liegt?17:41
ShapeshifterDr_willis: uhm, I have this "System settings" thing, there is Computer Administration > Monitor & Display > The thing is that I can't configure the screen resolution there because it thinks it can only display 1600x1200 at 50Hz, which is wrong. I configured the right hardware like a dozen times already but it keeps forgetting it, I guess because of some clinch with nvidia-settings17:42
Shapeshifter!de | superior17:42
ubotusuperior: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:42
superiorah thx17:42
rahulhey shapeshifter are you using a desktop or laptop and what videocard/17:42
rahul?17:42
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?17:42
rahul*17:42
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  i would not be suprised at that. I got a Huge wide display # there.. because i am using twinview17:42
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  you using twinview also? dual monitors?17:42
ardchoilleMy friend just brought his Windows computer over. Is it possible to conect to it and view its desktop in Kubuntu?17:42
fdovingardchoille: yeah, try rdesktop17:43
Shapeshifterrahul, dr_willis: It's one nice nvidia adaptor on a desktop PC, I'm using two separate X screens, screen0 and screen1.17:43
Dr_willisardchoille,  install 'ultravnc' for windows on it. start the vncserver., connect with a vncclient on linux box. Is amnother way17:43
Bandit12where can i get an image to print on my kubuntu dvd?17:43
rahulo ok17:43
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  I do recall twinview having a LOT of tweakable things in this area. I had to mess with them ages ago.17:43
ardchoilleDr_willis: No way to do it without installing something on the Windows box?17:43
rahulhave you edited xorg.comf?17:43
rahulconf*17:44
Dr_willisardchoille,  depends on which of the 10000 variants of windows he has. :)17:44
ardchoillehehe17:44
ShapeshifterDr_willis: I don't want to use twin view because I need two seperate X screens17:44
fdovingBandit12: there are some stuff at http://kubuntu.org/art/ - i belive gutsy graphics is comming there too.. it has been requested.17:44
rahulShapeshifter have you edited xorg.conf? you should do it yourself if you want to use twinview17:45
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?17:45
Dr_willisIve never used 2 seprate X displays. So cant help ya there.17:45
ShapeshifterIsn't there a file for that kde user setting, where I can edit that manually? My xorg.conf is alright, no I don't want to use twinview rahul17:45
rahulShapeshifter twinview is just dual monitor support17:46
rahulno, kde user settings don't work very well right now17:46
Shapeshifterrahul: TwinView makes one X screen strech over n numbers of physical monitors.17:46
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  there may be some xorg.conf setting that allows the user to change their res.17:46
Dr_willisxrandr or somthing sounds famiuler17:47
Dr_willis!info xrand17:47
ubotuPackage xrand does not exist in gutsy17:47
jeanmass_hello17:47
Dr_willis!find xrand17:47
ubotuFound: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr17:47
jeanmass_is it possible to install kubuntu on an external hdd?17:47
Dr_willis!info  xrandr17:47
ubotuxrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB17:47
ShapeshifterDr_willis: some guy at #xorg told me that xrandr wont work with the proprietary nvidia driver17:47
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  highly likely.17:48
rahulShapeshifter: k if you want 2 seperate X screens you need to define them in xorg.conf yourself.17:48
Dr_willisHmm.. My clock dident adjust for DST17:50
Shapeshifterrahul: I did! it's not the problem, my xorg.conf is fine, in kdm everything is ok, it switches back to some useless stuff when logging in17:50
rahulooohhhh sorry.17:50
eagles0513875can someoen tell me why firefox is looking for java when i hava jva6 jre and jdk already installed17:51
Shapeshifterrahul: http://pastebin.ca/76085217:51
draikbazhang: Hello17:51
ubuntuthe installer wont run from the liveDVD, and I cant do a install in text mode installer either17:51
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo ubiquity kde_ui17:52
ubuntuBus error (core dumped)17:52
eagles0513875ubuntu: try alternate17:52
sayersHow do I clean the trash as root?17:52
bazhangdraik: hi! :}17:52
ubuntueagles0513875: alternate cd?17:52
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eagles0513875ya17:52
manikfoxeagles0513875: I did, doesn't load either17:52
draikbazhang: Back to where we were.... How do I get OpenGL to work?17:52
samuk1how change "locked folder"... i cannot acess17:53
ShapeshifterDr_willis: That damn kde config stuff always turns on xinerama if I work with it. On the other hand nvidia-settings won't change the kde settings. >:( this is so very frustrating. Isn't there a file for the kde user where I can define the resolution it should use for each X screen after logging in?17:53
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eagles0513875manikfox: what kind of video card do u have17:53
draikWhich kernel should I be using? -386 or -generic?17:53
manikfoxeagles0513875: Geforce 7800GTX17:54
eagles0513875manikfox: did u have this problem with feisty17:54
bazhangdraik: I'm guessing generic17:54
draikOk17:54
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draikAny idea about getting OpenGL to work with my nVidia GeForce 5700LE?17:55
ScorpKinghi sayers!17:55
sayersScorpKing: hello17:55
manikfoxeagles0513875: nope, or any other distro17:55
ScorpKingsayers: sudo rm the trash ;)17:55
sayersScorpKing: where is it :s17:56
draik!opengl17:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:56
* ScorpKing 21s lag. will be back tomorrow..17:56
eagles0513875manikfox: what u could do then is do a dist upgrade17:57
eagles0513875manikfox: what i would do is install feisty then i can help u do a complete upgrade17:57
ubuntui need help installing kubuntu to harddisk...17:57
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ScorpKingsayers: .trash i think17:57
Dry_Icei have a partition on a drive17:58
Bandit12thnx fdoving17:58
manikfoxeagles0513875: do you know how to run the textmode install in console?17:58
Dry_Iceand would like to use that partition17:58
eagles0513875manikfox: what u mean a dist-upgrade17:58
manikfoxeagles0513875: I am in the liveDVD, i want to install it on my lvm2... i can do it manually like in gentoo, but I was wondering if I could run the text mode installer from konsole17:59
DviusGreetings!17:59
eagles0513875i have never used lvm before18:00
bazhanghi!18:00
eagles0513875!info lvm18:00
ubotuPackage lvm does not exist in gutsy18:00
eagles0513875!lvm18:00
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO18:00
manikfoxeagles0513875: pretend IU didnt say that18:00
manikfoxeagles0513875: I*18:00
eagles0513875manikfox: lol18:00
DviusI am trying to import my old emails from Thunderbird into Kontact (KMail).  However I do not appear to have an "Import Messages..." in my "Tools" menu.18:00
DviusAny ideas?18:00
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  you 'could' temeraly disable the fancy things.. and use the 'nv' driver and let the user set their res. ( that would set the  proper settings/file) then reenable the fancy stuff. :)18:00
Dry_Icei need help installing kubuntu from the live cd...18:01
Dr_willisShapeshifter,  i dont know where that setting is  in .kde somewhere  :)18:01
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Dry_Iceanyone?18:01
Tm_TDry_Ice: you may like to tell what help you need18:02
webvictimDry_Ice: ask your question18:02
Dry_Icehow do i install linux on a partition?18:02
Dry_Icespecifically, kubuntu18:02
EllipsysIs anyone using the fglrx 8.42.3 driver currently?18:03
webvictimDry_Ice: what isn't clear about it?18:03
webvictimyou put the live CD in and boot from it18:03
webvictimand follow the instructions18:03
angasuleDry_Ice: use manual partitioning? it'll let you specify whatever partitioning you want18:03
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?18:03
ShapeshifterDr_willis: I'm not following, what could I do with the nv driver? I mean the problem is that the kde configuration utility doesn't support using two X screns, instead it automatically enables xinerama when choosing "dual head". On the other hand the nvidia-settings tool wont set the kde settings for the user. How can the nv driver help?18:03
Dry_Icei have a drive...that ive partitioned...18:03
DviusCan somebody help me?  I am trying to import my old emails from Thunderbird into Kontact (KMail).  However I do not appear to have an "Import Messages..." in my "Tools" menu.18:03
Dry_Iceand it won't let me use the partition18:04
draikHow do I install the Restricted Drivers in Kubuntu.18:04
webvictimDry_Ice: how did you partition it?18:04
draikThe instructions do not work with Kubuntu 7.1018:04
webvictim(as in, what program did you use)18:04
webvictimdraik: it should ask you the first time you boot18:04
ardchoillefdoving: rdesktop works from command line perfectly, thank you for the advice :)18:04
angasuleDvius: File->Import messages18:04
draikThere isn't an option with K Menu > System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers18:04
ardchoillefdoving: is there a gui for rdesktop?18:05
draikwebvictim: I don't recall seeing it18:05
Dry_Icewebvictim: i used the cd...18:05
Dry_Icethe installer18:05
angasuledraik: are you using gutsy?18:05
draikangasule: Yes18:05
webvictimardchoille: krdc?18:05
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ardchoillewebvictim: I can't get krdc to connect18:06
webvictimardchoille: you're using rdp:/put.your.ip.here18:06
Dviusangasule: I see it now!  Except it is greyed out... ?18:06
angasuledraik: do you have an nvidia card or something that would require restricted drivers?18:06
angasuleDvius: have you set up an account?18:06
DviusYes.18:06
DviusEven successfully sent and received email.18:06
Dry_Icewebvictim: how do i figure out what the mount point is?18:06
draikangasule: nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE18:07
Dry_Icefor the particular partition18:07
ardchoillewebvictim: Ah, works great, thank you18:07
webvictimDry_Ice: you just want one big partition for everything?18:07
angasuledraik: weird, I don't know why it would be greyed out in that case18:07
webvictimardchoille: :}18:07
Dry_Icewebvictim: no18:07
* ardchoille just got another Windows user interested in Kubuntu :)18:07
angasuleDvius: well, I don't really use it, so I have no idea18:07
draikangasule: Greyed out? It's not even there.18:07
Dr_willis_Dry_Ice,  the easy way is to leave a section of the hd 'unallocated' and let the installer install to that. let it make the partition18:07
Dry_Icewebvictim: i have a partition...and it wont let me use it18:07
webvictimDry_Ice: what's the rror?18:07
angasuledraik: oh, no idea, sorry18:07
webvictimDry_Ice: what's the error?18:07
[mag]Hi :) I am wondering if I should choose 32-bit or 64-bit kubuntu for my Opteron system. I searched the tubes, but the reviews I found of the 64 bit version were several years old. How is the 64bit version doing?18:08
Dry_Icedr_Willis_: the installer did make the partition18:08
Dvius:-(18:08
Dr_willis_Dry_Ice,  then it should of set the mount points also18:08
Dry_Icewebvictim: there're multiple errors :P18:08
draikardchoille: I converted 4 Windows users. 2 XP and 2 Vista18:08
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[mag]Speccifically, are video and audio codecs optimised for it yet?18:08
Dry_Icedr_willis_: hmm, that's strange, coz it isn't...18:08
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Dr_willis_I tend to let it use whole hd's however. :) so i dont rember the exact specifics of the installer.18:08
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Dry_Iceic...18:08
Dr_willis_People starting out - often have issues understanding how the installer wants/names partitions18:09
webvictimDry_Ice: the mount point for your "standard" parition should be /18:09
Dr_willis_You need a / partition. and a swap partition,18:09
Dry_Icewould someone help me use the installer to repartition the disk?18:09
Dry_Icei don't have any data on it atm18:09
Dr_willis_'/' IS the mountpoint :) and what its called.18:09
Dry_Iceok...18:09
ardchoilledraik: Awesome :)18:09
Dry_Iceit doesn't work :P18:09
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angasuleDr_willis: yeah, a guide would be nice18:09
webvictimhow big is the partition?18:09
Dr_willis_normally i  just use ' Use all unallocated space'18:09
Dry_Ice120000 mb...18:09
webvictimdo you have any reason to want more than one partition?18:10
Dry_Iceyep18:10
Dr_willis_so a sample layout would be (befor installing)   (Windows a few gb) (Unallocated  The rest of the HD)18:10
webvictimhint: if you don't know what a mount point is, the answer is probably no... :P18:10
Dry_Iceits my backup drive...18:10
Dr_willis_Note that Unallocated is NOT the same as empty. :)18:10
Dry_Icei have 2 drives...18:10
Dry_Iceconnected to my coermput18:10
kwtmWhere can I get Kubuntu 7.10 CD's over a torrent?  I can only find torrents for the DVD version.18:10
Dry_Icecomputer*18:10
webvictimkwtm: are the HTTP mirrors not working? :18:11
webvictim*:)18:11
Dr_willis_kwtm,  I googled for ubuntu torrent downloads and got a site (torrent.ubuntu.com?)  that had all the links18:11
bazhangkwtm: linuxtracker dot org18:11
Dr_willis_links to them all # of seeds and so forth18:11
kwtmDr_willis_ and bazhang: Thanks for your info.  Will check it out now.18:12
Dr_willis_http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/18:12
Dr_willis_first google hit. :)18:12
bazhangkwtm: no problem18:12
Dry_IceERROR!!! The FATs don't match. If you don't know what this means, then select cancel, run scandisk on the file system, and then come back.18:12
webvictimDry_Ice: and did you do that? :)18:13
Dry_Iceno, it has another window with a msg...18:13
Dry_Icei'm typing that up, just a sec18:13
vincent_!subpixel18:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subpixel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:14
vincent_!fonts18:14
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer18:14
twagerUsing Konversation and it will not recognise / to give a command..Any ideas ?18:14
bazhangtwager: compiz enabled?18:15
vincent_subpixel font rendering is enabled by default in kubuntu 7.10 right?18:15
Dr_willis_Troubleshooting 101 :) is now . #1 - disable compiz   heh...18:15
twagerbazhang: yes18:15
kwtmDr_willis_ : It took some searching.  If you just follow the directory (the web site you gave me is the HTTP interface to a FTP server) to the "releases", it only gets to the DVD release.  You have to go to the "simple" subdirectory, and it's under "desktop".  It didn't say "CD", but I guess if it's not a DVD then it's a CD.18:15
metiuzATi drivers can remove XGL session and desktop effects??18:16
bazhangtwager: there's a conflict between the two, was over at #konversation and they sent me to #compiz-fusion18:16
Dry_IceDo you want to return to the partitioning menu? You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of the available physical memory, and so that it behaves better when physical memory is scarce. You may experience installation problems if you do not have enough physical memory. If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition,18:16
Dry_Icethe installation will continue without swap space.18:16
Dry_Iceok/cancel?18:16
webvictimDry_Ice: right, ok.18:16
webvictimyou need to make two partitions18:16
twagerbazhang: Thanks..18:16
Dry_Iceyep...18:16
Dr_willis_kwtm,  or you could look at the filesize. :)18:16
metiuzATi drivers can remove XGL session and desktop effects??18:16
webvictimone needs to be double the size of your RAM, as a rough guide18:16
bazhangtwager: no problem :}18:16
kwtmbazhang: The web site you mentioned looks like a 3rd party web site to point to the Kubuntu torrents, but I wonder if there's a possibility of trojans?  Anyway, I got the torrent file.  Thanks.18:17
Dry_Iceok...18:17
webvictimwhich is your swap partition18:17
Dry_Iceand what format should that partition be?18:17
webvictimthat should be "swap"18:17
bazhangkwtm: no worries there--use it all the time18:17
Dry_Iceok...18:17
metiuzATi drivers can remove XGL session and desktop effects??18:17
Dr_willis_kwtm,  you refering to http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/  ?  every file is a single click to get the .torrent there for me. :)18:17
webvictimand then the other partiton can use the rest of your drive18:17
webvictimthe format of that should probably be "ext3"18:17
kwtmDr_willis_: technically, yes, but remember, I'm looking for a torrent.  Those are, like, 2k in size. :)  Fortunately, right next to "kubuntu-desktop-torrent (27k)" was "kubuntu-desktop (698M)", so I knew that was the right thing.18:17
webvictimwith mount point "/"18:17
kwtmDr_willis_ : Oh, I didn't do the port number.  Let me check it out.18:18
Dry_Iceok18:18
Dr_willis_kwtm,  Heh heh :)18:18
metiuzATi drivers can remove XGL session and desktop effects??18:18
MPLubuntu wiki down?18:18
webvictimmetiuz: that isn't a question...18:18
Dr_willis_kwtm,  yea. google gave me the url with port #'s must be the torrent trracker site.18:18
webvictimwhat are you trying to ask? :)18:18
metiuzwhy??18:18
metiuzsry my english is little18:18
berti_frage18:19
webvictimit's ok :)18:19
berti_kannst mir mal helfen18:19
metiuzi was install ati graphic card drivers18:19
webvictim!de | berti_18:19
ubotuberti_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:19
Tm_T!away > TimS|away18:19
metiuzby Restriced Driver Manager18:19
twagerbazhang: Forgot to say it runs ok on my Sidux partition ..18:19
webvictimok :)18:19
kwtmDr_willis_: wow.  I guess the port number makes a big difference. :)  Yes, I found everything at :696918:19
berti_kann man bei kubunto kein icq richtig laden?18:19
metiuzand after installation i was reboot18:20
bazhangtwager: ktorrent?18:20
ubuntu_hola18:20
powerupi need some help with updates...can anyone help me?18:20
ubuntu_que es este canal18:20
metiuzafter reboot i want start desktop effects18:20
webvictimubuntu_: this is #kubuntu18:20
bazhang!es | ubuntu_18:20
ubotuubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.18:20
donaraz:)18:21
nonewmsgs_amorak isnt playing my mp3s, but i have the generic restricted codecs and can play them fine with kaffeine18:21
metiuzi open system/settings/ desktop effects18:21
ShapeshifterWhy doesn't this work!?! I'm going mental -.-'' WHY... Does anyone know how I can turn of EID / EDID detection in the Monitor & Display Settings Dialog for kde? This piece of * just keeps giving me "51HZ" for a Sony GDM500PS monitor which DOES 85HZ at 1600x1200. Why, why does this have to be, why does it have to hurt this much! And yes, my xorg.conf is configured perfectly. Why does KDE have to be so damn persistent. When I was s18:21
twagerbazhang: Konversation runs ok on Sidux and the / character works ok18:21
bazhangtwager: ok, my bad--too long on IRC lol18:21
metiuzand write : The Compostie extension is not available18:21
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  does it work with Other window managers properly?18:21
metiuzsomebody can help me??18:21
powerupi need some help with updates...can anyone help me?18:21
webvictimpowerup: ask your question18:22
draikbazhang: sudo nvidia-xorg breaks my x server18:22
bazhangpowerup: what's the question?18:22
draikpowerup: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade18:22
powerupi have ubuntu ultimate 1.5 and i can't update18:22
ShapeshifterDr_willis: it did with gnome when I had Ubuntu running on that machine.18:22
Roberthcan anybody share the default fonts.conf?18:22
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  interesting. COuld try some very light window manager like jwm see if it works with it. try to focus on if its a KDE specific issue or a X specific Issue.18:23
metiuzwebvictim: can you say me what I have to do beacause I can use desktop effects ??18:23
* Dr_willis_ wonders what Ubuntu Ultimate even is...18:23
nonewmsgs_and ubuntu ultimate is ubuntu with EVERY package18:23
* Dr_willis_ wonders if Ubuntu Ultimate has their own tech support channel.18:23
bazhanghaha18:23
* Dr_willis_ wonders whats so Ultimate about that?18:23
bazhangcool channel name18:23
* Dr_willis_ wonders if thers a Kubuntu Kultimate18:24
metiuz:/18:24
ShapeshifterDr_willis: I actually got it working with 2x 1600x1200 now by altering the order in which I used the kde tool and nvidia-settings, but now my primary screen gives me eye cancer by running at 51Hz at 1600x1200.... I am completely sure that it is a KDE specific issue, because kde seems to have no support at all for running multiple X screens. It automatically supposes that you want to use Xinerama18:24
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webvictim!pl | metiuz18:25
ubotumetiuz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl18:25
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  Hmm.  You are running KDE as 2 seperate users on 2 seperate X sessions eh?18:25
metiuzthx18:25
webvictim:)18:25
webvictimmight be easier for you18:25
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: No, I'm apparently the same user with two X sessions, but I can't configure them indipendently in the kde settings tool18:26
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  Hmm. thats interesting.18:26
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  ive had 'similer' issues when using vnc, and having the same user logged in twice running kde 2 times.18:26
Dr_willis_KDE  got a little confused at times. gnome did also.18:27
nonewmsgs_ok i installed a bunch of xine plugins and it's working now18:27
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  an interesting test would be to try it with 2 differnt users.18:27
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  what are you running that needs 2 seperate X displays anyway?18:28
ShapeshifterDr_willis: This is really tring ^^ At least I got it this fat, having 2 times 1600x1200 with wrong freqs. I guess it wouldn't matter if I used two different users because KDE alsways enables xinerama no matter what I'm doing in the kde config. But I'll try. Buut, how can I do that? ^^18:29
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Well, you really want to know why? .... ;)18:29
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter, ive seen/heard simielr things done with mythtv on one display, normal X on another. Thats  almost the layout i got on this box.18:30
Dr_willis_Im just using twinview and told MythTV to stay on display #1 fullscreened however.18:30
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  the 'mythtv' guys/forums/wiki/ Might have some leads on the topic. :)18:31
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ShapeshifterDr_willis: mh, well, how can I start two X sessions with two different users?18:31
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  good question. :) not sure.. other then the proper commands from rc.local perhaps.18:31
gt40bonjour qui pourai m aider18:31
Dr_willis_Ive never explored the 2  X sessions thing much18:32
bazhang!fr | gt4018:32
ubotugt40: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:32
draikHow do I get OpenGL to work with my nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE graphics card?18:32
Gast590Hallo, ich haette ein Paar fragen zu kubuntu. Haette jemand einen Augenblick Zeit?18:32
Dr_willis_!de18:33
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:33
powerupcan anyone remote control my pc and fix some problems please ?18:33
Dr_willis_powerup,  -  depends on the issue. :)  and if you got ssh installed.. and firewalls and other things...18:33
Gast590Wie kann ich den Kanal aendern?18:33
Dr_willis_best to learn how to fix things yourself.18:33
draikSorry, restarted X Server18:34
draikHow do I get OpenGL to work with my nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE graphics card?18:34
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: I think I'm beginning to understand what KDE is doing here. It automatically adjusts the freq to the one used by the lowest "frequenting" screen in the setup. My 2nd display runs fine at 1600x1200 @ 75HZ so it does the same for my primary screen, which could do 85Hz...18:34
bazhang!de | Gast59018:34
ubotuGast590: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:34
Gast590Wie kann ich diesen Kanal beitreiten?18:35
bazhang:{18:35
Dr_willis_No Hoblo. ;)18:35
ShapeshifterGast950: anstatt auf #kubuntu zu gehen gehst du einfach in #kubuntu-de18:35
ardchoilleShapeshifter: Thank you18:35
Gast590Wie soll das gehen, worauf muss ich klicken?18:36
ShapeshifterGast590: ja ich kenn ja deinen irc client nicht. geh einfach aus diesem channel raus, und joine dem channel #kubuntu-de18:36
Gast590Dieser Chat ist auf einer Internetseite, ich habe keinen "client".18:37
bazhang:P18:37
Gast590Ich bin auf "http://www.kubuntu.de/index.php"18:38
ardchoilleShapeshifter: You and Gast590 are welcome to use #ardchoille temporarily if needed :)18:38
bazhanghaha18:38
bazhangwho's the op in that channel? :}18:39
ardchoilleme18:39
Gast590Ist das nicht der Kubuntu Online Support?18:39
bazhangjust kidding ardchoille18:39
Shapeshifterardchoille: he doesn't get how to change a channel. So that wont work ;) Can't you just transfer him?18:39
ardchoillebazhang: oh, hehe18:39
powerup<Dr_willis_> are u still here?18:39
ardchoilleShapeshifter: It doesn't work that way18:39
ShapeshifterGast590: Doch, aber nur auf englisch. Der deutsche support ist im channel #kubuntu-de Auf der seite die du mir gegegebn hast sehe ich kein login zu irc chat support.18:40
ardchoilleShapeshifter: tell him to click on the blue channel name18:40
bazhangGast590:  type /join #kubuntu-de18:40
BigPicko/18:40
ShapeshifterGast950: Versuch, folgendes in deine eingabezeile zu schreiben: /join #kubuntu-de18:40
Gast590Hier der Link von der deutsch Sprachigen Kubuntu Seite:18:40
Gast590http://www.kubuntu.de/index.php?option=com_mospjirc&Itemid=5518:40
draikbazhang: You need gast to click on the link18:40
draikbazhang: link to the channel18:41
draikShapeshifter: Tell Gast to click on the channel name. It will direct them straight there18:41
bazhangdraik: Shapeshifter has told him like five times already18:41
ShapeshifterGast590: Du kannst auch einfach auf den channel namen clicken: #kubuntu-de18:41
powerupcan anyone remote control my pc and fix some problems please ?18:41
ardchoillepowerup: It would be better if you asked questions here and learned how to do it18:42
Shapeshifterdraik: I'm not sure his java web applet allows him that. I don't know why he's landet here anyway because the web applet he posted should actually open #kubuntu-de18:42
bazhangpowerup: that might not be wise--best to fix it yourself--what is the problem exactly18:43
powerupi would learn much faster if i see someone doing it18:44
powerup:)18:44
powerupthe problem is i can't update my system18:45
Gast590Danke  Shapeshifter18:45
ardchoilleShapeshifter: Or you could turn filtering off for your nick and pm him18:45
bazhangpowerup: could you be more precise?18:45
draikShapeshifter: Seems as though they got it now18:45
ardchoillepowerup: do you mean upgrading to a new release or updating the software you already have?18:45
Shapeshifterdraik: hope so18:45
bazhangthanks Shapeshifter18:46
ardchoilleShapeshifter: Glad you're here :)18:46
draikShapeshifter: They did. /whois gast and you'll see they are in here and -de18:46
Shapeshifterdraik: mh, indeed. I'm not so familiar with irc myself ^^18:47
powerupi don't know...what's better? ...i have ubuntu ultimate 1.5dvd and 7.10 dvd18:47
powerupcan i upgrade to 7.10 from dvd?18:47
bazhangpowerup: you mean kubuntu 7.10?18:47
ardchoille!upgrade | powerup18:47
ubotupowerup: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:47
draikpowerup: I don't see why not18:48
draikThe interesting about upgrading was that my laptop crashed during the installation of the upgrades, not my desktop.18:48
bazhangthus crashing opengl?18:49
draikbazhang: It's a bit far-fetched, but who knows.18:49
BigPickI had the same problem draik. My two desktops crashed as well.18:49
draikI know it's frowned upon, but is there a way I can get Beryl on Gutsy. Compiz is **explicit**18:49
ardchoilledraik: compiz and beryl merged, the result is compiz-fusion18:50
BigPickWell Beryl is merged with Compiz currently.18:50
powerupwhen i insert the 7.10 dvd i get this message A distribution volume with software packages has been detected.18:50
powerupWould you like to try to upgrade from it automatically?18:50
powerupi ckick run upgrade18:51
BigPickpowerup: That's good.18:51
bazhangpowerup: doing a fresh install, ie wiping hard drive?18:51
=== tommy is now known as eetfuk
powerupand then i get this message: Nu pot obţine acces exclusiv18:51
powerupThis usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.18:51
BigPickDo you have adept or something smiliar open?18:52
powerupi don't know? where can i check that?18:52
bazhangdraik: you want to run only Beryl?18:52
BigPickWell, it would be a window.18:52
bazhang!aptfix | powerup18:53
ubotupowerup: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:53
poweruppowerup@powerup-desktop:~$ !aptfix | powerup18:55
powerupbash: !aptfix: event not found18:55
poweruppowerup@powerup-desktop:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a18:55
poweruppowerup@powerup-desktop:~$18:55
poweruppowerup@powerup-desktop:~$18:55
powerupwhat now?18:55
bazhangpowerup: those are two seperate commands, first use one, then after that is finished use the other18:56
powerupi know...that's how i did18:56
bazhangpowerup: first the sudo...., then the sudo..., leave out the aptfix part18:56
powerupi got u know18:57
bazhangok18:58
powerupnow what do i do?18:58
bazhangyou ran them both?18:58
powerupyes18:58
ardchoillepowerup: Now try the upgrade again18:58
bazhangand this is a fresh install?18:58
powerupyes18:58
bazhanglisten to ardchoille18:59
bazhang:}18:59
ardchoillepowerup: This is a fresh install? Which version did you install?18:59
bazhangubuntu ultimate ardchoille19:00
ardchoilleoh19:00
vincent_!kickoff19:00
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233119:00
vincent_is there a way to install kickoff menu for gutsy? pls answer19:01
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Dammit, I DID IT! It's working :D that was some complicated stuff....19:01
bazhangvincent_: it's not in the software repositories19:02
ardchoillevincent_: There is an ubuntu .deb floating around. I installed it but the kickoff ui seemed to have bugs.. it looked like a webpage with the CSS badly written19:02
ardchoillevincent_: ?Have you tried kbfx? It's in the repos19:03
vincent_thats sad i'm from suse. like the menu a lot...19:03
draikbazhang: Yes, only beryl19:04
ardchoillevincent_: iirc, kickoff will be in kde419:04
bazhangdraik: any reason?19:04
psieHello, is there a key combination to execute commands in KDE?19:04
bazhangvincent_: kbfx is much nicer19:04
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  now make a wiki page on it!19:04
draikbazhang: I didn't like Compiz when it first came out and I don't much like Compiz-Fusion19:04
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  what was the trick?19:04
Chousukepsie: alt-f2 should work19:04
bazhangpsie: many--which are you looking for?19:04
=== berti_ is now known as RIKE
ardchoillepsie: Tried katapult?19:05
psieActually i want to help somone else she is using kde19:05
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: I thought about that, which wiki?19:05
ardchoille!wiki19:05
RIKEAHHHH19:05
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  no idea. :) heh.19:05
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.19:05
RIKEPsie??????19:05
* draik uses Katapult primarily19:05
psieand she keeps telling me that alt+f2 doesnt't work19:05
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  put a link to it at the !nvidia factoid wiki page i guess19:05
psieyeah19:05
Dr_willis_!nvidia19:05
icewatermananyone here tried the free r300 drivers with gutsy?19:05
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:05
RIKEyes i sayed!19:05
psieich versuch dir sogar hier was an infos zu besorgen19:05
RIKEmein pc is abgestürzt19:06
psiehmm19:06
RIKEwenn alles klappt küss ich dir die füße ;)19:06
psiedas versteh ich net19:06
psielol19:06
RIKEkannst du das letzte sagen19:06
ben-schmarkj'ai redemarrer X19:06
ardchoille!de19:06
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:06
ben-schmarktoujours mesa19:06
bazhang!de | RIKE19:06
ubotuRIKE: please see above19:06
powerupdo flash web pages work with 7.10 amd64 ?19:06
RIKEich hab nur noch alt+strg nd f gelsen19:06
psielol19:07
icewatermanpowerup: yes19:07
icewatermanpowerup: you need to install flashplugin-nonfree19:07
psie@ RIKE try ALT + F2 again19:07
powerupok thanks19:07
psieis something happening19:07
RIKEja hab ich :)19:07
psieappearing?19:07
RIKEund dann?19:07
psiepassier was?19:08
psieein fenster geht aus?19:08
psieauf?19:08
RIKEja19:08
psiesuper19:08
RIKEiwi befehl eingeben19:08
psiewarte19:08
ardchoille!de19:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:08
draik!de | RIKE19:08
psieich schreib dich mal pers. an19:08
ubotuRIKE: please see above19:08
Shapeshifterardchoille, Dr_willis_: I'm not sure that would fit into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto I can post a link at the factoid page but where should I write the wiki entry?19:08
psieok guys19:08
draik!de | psie19:08
ubotupsie: please see above19:08
psiewe are leaving19:09
draikbazhang: So... Possible? Beryl + Gutsy?19:09
=== francesco is now known as leprod6
psie@ RIKE plz come to private caht!19:10
psiechat19:10
leprod6ciao a tutti19:10
RIKEwo?19:10
RIKEwie gehtn das heirß19:10
bazhangdraik: possible--likely, though not sure how to go about it--can tell you about compiz-fusion if you like :}19:10
leprod6cè qualche italiano qui?19:10
ardchoille!it19:10
leprod6hi to all19:10
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:10
bazhang!it | leprod619:10
ubotuleprod6: please see above19:10
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  hmm some where on help.ubuntu.com :) guess it can be linkee to from the boottom of the wiki under 'related' links.19:11
psiein den anderen raum der sich geöffnet hat oder in ubuntu-de19:11
Dr_willis_Twinview Configuration Guide  perhaps?19:11
leprod6ops bye!19:11
draikbazhang: I tried it. I can't rotate. I don't get the cube. It does nothing. It's like staring at option, choosing them and then being told, "Yeah, I would love to do that too"19:11
ardchoillepsie: Please take the German to the German channel19:11
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  ive only edited/tweaked a few of the wiki pages.19:11
intExDKHey. I would like to find a mount software similar to Daemon Tools for Linux/Kubuntu. Anybody?19:11
psieguys please tell me if i can open a terminal in kde using the command xterm?19:12
bazhangdraik: well, I've run through all the things you need to do (and you've apparently done), not sure where to go from here. :}19:12
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaMultiMonitors - seems ready for your editing needs. :)19:12
b0nnpsie: have you tried to?19:12
timripsie: Dont like konsole?19:12
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  given the sad state of that wiki entry. :) got for it!19:12
draikbazhang: I don't feel that I have my nVidia card as it should be since I cannot get my OpenGL screensaver to work.19:12
psieok19:12
ShapeshifterAnd besides, this surfaced a new problem: If I start e.g. Amarok on the secondary screen it will put a tiny tray icon on the upper left corner as a single window. How can I put another tray area on the panel I've placed on the secondary screen?19:12
psiethats ok 4 me19:12
ardchoillepsie: you would need to install it forst19:12
psiei just dont have kde19:13
bazhanghey b0nn19:13
draikpsie: Yakuake19:13
mehello all :)19:13
b0nnhey bazhang :)19:13
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Yeah I'll put it there when I find out how to fix the tray problem ;)19:13
bazhang:}19:13
timripsie: aptitude install xterm19:13
psieok thx19:13
mei just installed kubuntu (again) and can't find the app that lets me change the menu names from long (descriptive) to norman. Anyone know what does that? thanks :)19:14
ardchoillepsie: You'll need sudo for that19:14
b0nnapt-get install porn19:14
b0nn:)19:14
menorman/normal19:14
b0nnwe need a porn repo19:14
ardchoilleme: it's in kcontrol, hold on and I'll find it19:14
bazhang!oh my19:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:14
meardchoille: thank you so much :)19:14
bazhangoops19:14
ardchoilleme: right click you rpanela dn choose Configure panel19:14
ardchoilleme: in the Configure gui, go to the Menus section19:15
draikardchoille: Bit of a train wreck there in the middle, huh?19:15
ShapeshifterI need a second Tray area (on my secondary taskbar) how can I get that?19:15
ardchoilledraik: ?19:15
simonesalve a tutti19:15
mewow, that did it :) thanks so much ardchoille :)19:16
ardchoilleme: yw19:16
mei have to write that down :)19:16
draikright click you rpanela dn choose Configure panel...     "you rpanela dn"19:16
meanyone running 64bit version and "recordmydesktop"?19:16
meand if yes, does it work for you?19:16
bazhang!it | simone19:16
psiesudo passwd root     <<< is this a valid command in kde19:16
ubotusimone: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:16
psieterminal19:17
ardchoilledraik: yeah, I haven't yet installed libtype-what-I-want-not-what-I-said19:17
bazhanghahha19:17
ardchoillepsie: That is not supported nor necessary, please don't enable your root account, it makes your system less secure.19:17
draikardchoille: I do live chat at work and I'm happy for the spell checker.19:17
ardchoilledraik: hehe19:17
meany "blender" users in here?19:18
psieplease just tell me if it is working19:18
draikme: I use a blender for margaritas, if that helps.19:18
ardchoillepsie: Tell you if what is working?19:18
psiei don'T own a kde i am using ubnutu i just try to help someon eout19:18
Shapeshifterme: kind of sometimes on a very low scale19:18
psie sudo passwd root19:18
psiethisi command19:18
Dr_willis_theres no need to set the root password.19:18
draikpsie: Yes19:18
ardchoillepsie: Please don't teach others how to enable the root account, it's not a good thing.19:18
psiethx19:18
draikpsie: sudo su19:18
Dr_willis_and  'sudo passwd' will ask for/make  the root password. correct.19:18
bazhangpsie: sudo is enough19:19
meShapeshifter: cool! it's hard to find blender users. What version of kubuntu are you running?19:19
ardchoillepsie: sudo -i19:19
psiei will tell them to disable it again19:19
Dr_willis_!sudo19:19
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.19:19
ardchoillepsie: ^^19:19
Dr_willis_psie,  why bother? when sudo can do it all.19:19
ardchoillepsie: Tell them it's quite difficult to brute force a locked root account ;)19:20
nonewmsgs_what is the chmod to give users permission to a folder19:20
psieWell we need to set up sth. on a GUI what requires a root passwd and it is not working with the sude passwd19:20
Dr_willis_nonewmsgs_,  all users? 1 user?  read/write?19:20
nonewmsgs_all users rw19:20
Dr_willis_psie,  for a gui program use the kdesu command19:20
psielol^19:20
psiethx19:21
vgechmod +guo rw19:21
Dr_willis_kdesu GUICOMMAND19:21
psieI have never had kde19:21
nonewmsgs_im looking at the help file and im still stuck.  i dont know what octal mode is, etc19:21
ardchoillenonewmsgs_: What exactly are you trying to do?19:21
nonewmsgs_then use gksudo instead19:21
nonewmsgs_ardchoile i want to give rw permission to all users19:22
mehas anyone managed to install wine 0.9.47 or .48? I'm only showing version 0.9.4619:22
ardchoillenonewmsgs_: chmod a+rw19:22
ardchoillenonewmsgs_: is this a system file/folder?19:22
timrinonewmsgs_: You can do that with konqueror (right click, properties, permissions tab)19:22
mm_202Anyone else having FF 2.0.0.8 lock up on 7.10?19:23
timriMetaMorfoziS: gutsy repos are frozen at .4619:23
nonewmsgs_it wouldnt let me in dolphin, but thanks that is good to know :D the chmod thing worked like a dream too thanks ardchoile19:23
ardchoillenonewmsgs_: yw19:24
=== Chase_ is now known as Chase
timrinonewmsgs_: Yeah, dolphin is SO much easier >)19:24
ardchoillelol19:24
* Dr_willis_ stuffs dolphin in a tuna can.19:25
ardchoillehahaha19:25
nonewmsgs_so i should just stick with konquorer as my default file manager19:25
=== nonewmsgs_ is now known as nonewmsgs
mebye :)19:26
draikbazhang: I have the nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE. Is that nvidia-glx-new or just nvidia-glx?19:26
ardchoillenonewmsgs_: You should stick with the one which works best for you19:26
draikDolphin?19:26
bazhangI much prefer dolphin :}19:26
timrinonewmsgs: I prefer konqueror19:26
ShapeshifterWhat should I do if the system tray applet in the panel doesn't accept any tray icons? The applet is started but if I e.g. open amarok the amarok tray icon will appear in a little windows in the top left corner of the screen. how can I get the tray icons to show up in the tray?19:26
nonewmsgsi will use both :D19:26
Dr_willis_I always set Konqueror as my default file manager. :)19:27
draik!dolphin19:27
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.19:27
bazhangdraik: which have you tried?19:27
psycholicHello how can i use su in kubuntu i thought i knew the password but it don't work19:27
timriDr_willis_: Same here, plus, I removed that d3lph program19:27
draikbazhang: With Feisty, I had -new19:27
ardchoille!sudo | psycholic19:28
ubotupsycholic: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.19:28
biovorepsycholic: try sudo -i19:28
timripsycholic: You used kdesu?19:28
psycholicok thanks19:28
nonewmsgsthat su/root issue is here a lot.  does that mean that people are migrating from other distros or are reading other distros docs?19:28
Dr_willis_!info sux19:28
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB19:28
bazhangmigrating19:28
nonewmsgssweet19:29
Dr_willis_nonewmsgs,  yep. They cant handle the 'security above all else' mentality that Kubuntu has. :)19:29
bazhangdraik: have you tried new in gutsy?19:29
draikI have -new in Gutsy19:29
ardchoilleDr_willis_: wow, nice name for that wrapper, lol19:29
bazhangdraik: did you see the wiki for your card?19:29
draikWhich wiki?19:29
draikI've gone through so many19:30
bazhang!nvidia19:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:30
Dr_willis_this is the 7500 nvidia card?19:32
bazhang5700 I believe19:33
Dr_willis_that # card - just seems to have ... issues.. :)19:33
mm_202Is there a way to get tabs in Dolphin?19:34
draiknVidia GeForce FX 5700LE19:34
* timri looks around innocently at the mention of THAT app19:34
Dr_willis_http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html says that card is supported with the nvidia-glx driver19:35
Dr_willis_mm_202,  thats too complex.. so its been removed. :)19:35
Dr_willis_along with all the other  to-hard-to-use-features. :)19:35
bazhangmm_202: if you look at configure dolphin, then you can choose to customize thte toolbar19:35
bazhangerr the19:36
ShapeshifterWhat should I do if the system tray applet in the panel doesn't accept any tray icons? The applet is started but if I e.g. open amarok the amarok tray icon will appear in a little windows in the top left corner of the screen. how can I get the tray icons to show up in the tray?19:36
Dr_willis_Then again.. ive had so many other issues with Dolphin. I havent explored it much19:36
mm_202bazhang: danke19:36
timriDr_willis_: Ouch, bad pun19:36
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  ive noticed that issue at times with compiz.19:36
BigPickI like dolphin so far.19:36
timriShapeshifter: Screenshot?19:36
hdevalencehey do you know how to set it so that if I touch the touchpad it doesn't click?19:37
bazhangwow--I like dolphin. :/19:37
psycholicnonewmsgs: i have 2 rigs one is my wifes this is mine i have thought about making my rig a ubuntu rig but my wifes rig is the test ground...19:37
timrihdevalence: MaxTapTime in xorg.conf19:37
Shapeshiftertimri: I can get you a screenshot, wait a minute...19:37
bazhangmm_202: but it doesn't seem to do much..sorry :{19:37
mm_202yeah, that sucks19:38
psycholicany way do i need to log out after i add my user to sudo19:38
mm_202why the hell did they remove the tabs??19:38
psycholicor should it just pick up the change19:38
timrimm_202: I think Dr W gave a sufficiently eloquent explanation19:38
bazhanghaha19:38
timripsycholic:  I think you have to log out first, not sure though19:39
mm_202lol, /me was hoping he was joking :S19:39
psycholici'll give it a go all i got is time....19:39
Dr_willis_mm_202,  :)19:39
Dr_willis_Make things user friendly by removing features. :)19:39
Dr_willis_The new 'paradime'19:39
mm_202lol19:39
hdevalencetimri: how do I use it? I can't find MaxTapTIme in man xorg.conf19:39
timrihdvalence: One moment please19:40
hdevalencetimri: ok19:40
draikbazhang: Yes, I've been through those wikis numerous times. What do you think?19:40
sweettoothhey there, im setting my new kontact mailbox, do i still need to get gotmail to check hotmail?19:41
miso_I've got an external drive at /media/store which I can't write to (unless I sudo). How can I fix this? I want to use it for backup...19:41
timrihdevalence: In the InputDevice section corresponding to your touchpad, add the line:19:41
timrihdevalence: Option  "MaxTapTime"  "0"19:41
bazhangdraik: Dr_willis_ says it is the glx one, I'd trust him over anything I might say :}19:41
Shapeshiftertimri: Look, http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7743/snapshot3mw8.png8 I can move around and scale the tray icon on the screen, but the tray area (which i right clicked on here) stays empty19:41
timrihdevalence: Then restart X19:42
timriShapeshifter: Correct url: http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7743/snapshot3mw8.png19:42
draikbazhang: glx it is...19:42
Dr_willis_Huh? what? huh? :)19:42
bazhangdraik: good luck19:42
Dr_willis_Yea. that was on the nvidia supported cards link.19:43
Shapeshiftertimri: yes19:43
timriShapeshifter: HOLY COW! never seen that one before19:43
draikWhy do I always get this message...19:43
draikdebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde19:43
draikdebconf: (Unable to load Qt -- is libqt-perl installed?)19:43
draikdebconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog19:43
draikOk, done.19:43
Dr_willis_Ive seen that meddage befor..19:43
draikRestart X?19:43
draikAlso, should I use Generic or 386 for the kernel?19:44
bazhangdraik: did you install libqt-perl?19:44
Dr_willis_the  apt package tools can support different 'methods' for getting input from the user during install.19:44
hdevalencetimri: out of Configured Mouse and Synaptics Touchpad, the touchpad is the right one, right?19:44
Dr_willis_dialog - is the classic console based one I belive.19:44
Shapeshiftertimri: well.... it "might" just have something to do with me using two X screens ^^ On screen0 the tray works correctly. All I want is a second tray on screen1.19:44
draikbazhang: Just did19:44
psycholicall i want to do is flush my iptables19:44
bazhanghtop is so nice. thanks all.19:44
timrihdevalence: Yes. I can paste that section if you want.19:44
hdevalencetimri: I'm ignoring all the ones that say tablet PC only19:44
Dr_willis_There used to be some dpkg-reconfigure option that could set the differnt ways/modes it used.19:44
miso_apologies for reasking - can anywone tell me how to make /media/store writeable for a normal user?19:45
hdevalencetimri: Thanks for the help19:45
Dr_willis_miso_,  what sort of HD  is on /media/store?19:45
timriShapeshifter: Ah!19:45
miso_usb19:45
Dr_willis_miso_,  and its filesystem is?19:45
timrihdevalence: Of course, the section for the touchpad ONLY!19:45
miso_fat19:45
draikDr_willis_ bazhang: Logout, restart X, Login?19:45
Shapeshiftertimri: so the tray applet on screen1 is broken.19:45
timrihdevalence: You're welcome19:45
miso_fwiw I'm runnin gutsy19:46
Dr_willis_miso_,  Hmm..   it 'should' mount that thing where all users can access it.19:46
Dr_willis_miso_,  is it read only? or cant even read it?19:46
miso_Dr W - it mounts fine, I just can't write a file (or directory) to it. I can read from it. If sudo, can do anything...19:46
Shapeshiftertimri, Dr_willis_: and in fact it works when Compiz-Fusion is disabled...19:47
timriShapeshifter: The strange thing is, there should be only one ! (no pun intended)19:47
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  now ya know why compiz was not included by default. :)19:47
bazhanghaha19:47
Dr_willis_miso_,  Hmm.. Not sure of what/where to fix it. other then to manually mount the thing.19:47
timriShapeshifter: Your kicker spans the two screens? Perhaps that helps19:47
draikbazhang: Nope. Screensaver still doesn't work.19:48
n1lowhere i can install compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10?19:48
Dr_willis_!compiz19:48
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:48
draik!compiz19:48
timriShapeshifter: As in: http://osdir.com/ml/kde.devel.konversation/2006-07/msg00011.html19:48
bazhangn1lo: you need to install some packages--are you ok with the command line?19:49
Shapeshiftertimri: as I have two independent X screens I can't even span one kicker over both screens, I'm using two independent kickers. It's actually quite fun to see how kde is shaking things up because somethings are unrelated between the two screens, other things are connected and will be treated as one session. ;)19:49
timriShapeshifter: Yeah, in that case dcop must have a field day :)19:49
Dr_willis_At one time i had kde going twice  - once in vnc, once in the desktop.. if i logged out of ONE.. then BOTH would logout19:50
n1lobazhang: ah ok, tks. . . i know the commands to install! =]19:50
timriShapeshifter: Perhaps this is one for #kde19:50
Shapeshiftertimri: If I 1. close compiz, 2. start amarok, 3. start compiz the tray icon is in the taskbar, and then 4. close amarok, 5. open amarok I get the floating tray icon again. Well. Mh. It could as well be for #compiz-fusion. I'll ask over there ;)19:51
draikbazhang: Ok. Let's start fresh. I want to get Compiz-Fusion working. All I care about having is a rotating cube and the ability to place my mouse in the upper right corner and seeing all of the open applications from the 4 sides of my cube.19:51
timriShapeshifter: Good luck.19:51
n1lobazhang: I was think: "Were is the botton to press to install compiz-fusion?"19:51
Dr_willis_Im amazed at the effort people go through for compiz eye candy.19:52
Dr_willis_:)19:52
n1lobazhang: Its not implemented.19:52
bazhangn1lo: ok  then you need to sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald19:52
froggleshi gang19:53
bazhangdraik: I think it might be an issue with your card--is it a laptop, or a desktop19:53
froggleshow do i turn off iptables?19:53
draikbazhang: Desktop19:53
n1loDr_willis_: I think it get a lot of memory. =(19:53
frogglesdoes kubuntu come with iptables enabled ?19:53
Dr_willis_froggles,  it comes with no rules by default19:54
frogglesoh19:54
Dr_willis_froggles,  so if its ON with no rules - is that off? :)19:54
Dr_willis_!firewall19:54
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).19:54
bazhangguarddog is nice19:54
bazhangdraik: you now have the proper drivers installed for your card--correct?19:56
draikbazhang: I have nvidia-glx installed, no longer -new.19:56
bazhangand you have all the packages I just listed for n1lo as well, right?19:56
froggleshow do i turn off iptables ?19:58
sweettoothhi there, I typed cat /proc/asound/cards and i want to check the device to another card, how do i do that?19:58
Dr_willis_froggles,  if theres no 'rules' set with iptables - then it basicially is off19:59
bazhangdraik: you have those installed as well?19:59
Dr_willis_ sudo iptables --list19:59
Ch1ppyhey, ever since I upgraded to gutsy my nvidia drivers get removed every reboot.  I suspect this has something to do wit hthe new Restricted Drivers thing, but I have no idea how to fix it?20:04
Dr_willis_Reinstall them with the 'restricted-manager' tool  perhaps?20:04
Dr_willis_You dident use AUtomatix or Envy  have you?20:05
Alarmfirst of all, how can i see all the refresh rates that my monitor supports on each resolution ?20:05
Ch1ppyDr_willis_: I've installed them from the nvidia sh installer.  How do I resintall them with the restricted driver tool?20:05
Dr_willis_!info restricted-manager20:06
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB20:06
merletthiho!20:06
merlett!info20:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:06
Ch1ppyDr_willis_: I know what it is, and how to get to it, but that doesn't help me reinstall drivers with it20:06
Dr_willis_Install the package, run the tool. :) click the nvidia box. BUT if you ahve allready used the nvidia isntaller.. you might be confusing things.20:06
ShapeshifterHow can I add apps to be started upon login? for gnome there's this session manager but the session manager in kde has no such options. Where can I add these apps?20:06
Ch1ppyDr_willis_: As I said, nvidia drivers are already installed, so the box is checked20:06
Dr_willis_not sure of the proper way to use the nvidia install scripts20:07
Dr_willis_it may be the module just isent getting loaded at startup.20:07
Ch1ppyDr_willis_: it was before upgrading to gutsy... but is there any way to check?20:07
Dr_willis_when it dosent work. use 'lsmod' and see whats loaded.20:07
Dr_willis_then perhaps manually load the 'nvidia' module with 'sudo modprobe nvidia' and try startx20:08
Ch1ppyokay, well brb20:09
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soonIm trying to get IM contact with someone using Kopete and IRC - would someone here care to help me check it out for me ....20:12
webvictimwell, you're on IRC...20:13
webvictimso you're probably most of the way there :P20:13
soonyup - I just need to connect to someone using Kopete - can I try you?20:13
webvictimi don't understand20:14
webvictimyou want to send me a private message?20:14
soonActually I dont really know Kopete at all ....20:14
webvictimheh20:14
draikbazhang: Sorry, got a visit from a cousin I never knew I had.20:14
draikbazhang: Yes, I have those installed20:14
webvictimwell, IRC isn't like a conventional IM service20:14
soonI recon, I can use it to connect 1-to-1 via IRC20:14
webvictimIRC needs a server20:15
webvictimand for two people, it's a bit pointless20:15
ShapeshifterCan I specify on which screen an Autostart command should be run? I have two independent X screens and I would need that command to run on screen1 and not screen020:15
soonIts just I dont want the bother of setting up MSN or Jabber accounts20:15
webvictimhm, i see what you mean20:15
webvictimyou can certainly use IRC if you can teach them how to get here :)20:16
webvictimyou could make your own channel20:16
webvictimor just private message (query) each other20:16
soonWould I need to use Konversation for the actual chatting or can that be done from within Kopete?20:16
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,    you could do it by making a script that exports the proper SCREEN variable, then runs the command.20:17
webvictimi'm not sure what kopete's IRC support is like20:17
webvictimbut i believe i've seen quit messages with it in, so i'd presume it's possible :)20:17
Dr_willis_oops it would be the 'display20:17
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: that's what I'm trying to do, I thought it was DISPLAY=0:1 or something like that but I can hardly google for that information20:17
Dr_willis_oops it would be the 'display' variable. not the screen variable, :) my mistake20:17
soonhmm20:18
draikbazhang: I have it all installed. Sadly enough, I do not have OpenGL working for my screensaver.20:18
Dr_willis_'DISPLAY=0:1 command'     should do it.20:18
Dr_willis_IF you have the proper X  permissions20:18
soonI've added you as webvictim@Freenode and it tells med youre not available / cant be reached20:18
Dr_willis_xhost +localhost may be needed to get ran some how befor you do this.20:18
webvictimi don't think it works like that :(20:18
soonapparently not :-(20:19
soonnot to worry ... I'll just tell him to reach me here ...20:19
soonthanks though20:19
Alarmi got a 19" monitor. how can i set a higher refresh rate for the 1152x864 (the maximum i see is 85) resolution , or through xorg or through the nvidia tool20:19
Dr_willis_IRC is radically diffrent from Yahoo and so forth. :)20:19
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: If I do DISPLAY=0:1 command then I get an error "..... yadda... "cannot open display""20:19
webvictim|this is a bit weird :P20:19
webvictim|but i guess it does work on some level20:19
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Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  thats the X security stuff precventing what could be bad activity20:20
Dr_willis_'xhost + localhost' on both desktops MAY let it work20:20
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Well, it doesn't ;)20:21
Zyklon-Bis there anyone who is a premium member of rapidshare.com and can easily handle with downloading files as in flashget20:22
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: The problem is that emerald doesn't start automatically on screen1 when logging in. CF does, but emerald only starts on screen0. So I wanted to put a script to ~/.kde/Autostart to make it work. The script looks like this: sleep 10 && DISPLAY=0:1 emerald --replace20:23
psycholicOk got sudo to work20:24
psycholicflushed my iptables20:24
psycholicand i can't get on the web still20:24
psycholicany one got any ideas was there a update with 7.10 that might have done this20:25
draikbazhang: What's your next step?20:25
webvictimpsycholic: how doesn't it work?20:25
webvictim(as in, what can't you do)20:25
psycholicwelll i have a router20:25
psycholici check that its connected20:26
psycholici have ktorrent running20:26
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  could be emerald has some issues.. Try it for some other apps and see if it works for them.20:26
psycholicit won't connect and no web brosers work20:26
webvictimyou're on the same computer now though, talking on IRC?20:27
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: DISPLAY=0:1 kate won't work eighter.20:27
psycholicno this is my other linux rig20:27
psycholici have a network20:27
webvictimsure20:27
webvictimdoes the other computer get an IP address20:27
psycholicumm ok20:27
psycholicyes20:27
webvictimand can you ping the computer you're on now?20:27
merletthi! ie got some problems with the ATI Driver i got from ati.com... i installed them like in the instructions and the 3D Part still doesn work. can anyone help me please?20:28
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  on each desktop. open up a terminal and use the  'xhost + localhost' command20:28
psycholichmmm i never did that before what do i need to type in term to ping my other box i do know the ip20:28
webvictimping <ip>20:28
webvictim:P20:28
psycholiclol20:28
hdevalencehey, so i disabled mouseclicking on the touchpad and now the scroller thing doesn't work. Is that a consequence of disablin gthe tapping?20:28
psycholicok i'll try that20:28
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mneisenHi, after installing compiz, katapult ceased to work. Anybody know something about this?20:29
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psycholicdo i have to break this if i want it to stop20:30
psycholic ctrl ^c20:30
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: It doesn't work. I had some problems with X on behalf of something else. I think with "localhost" and this xhost command you're referring to X using network ports. But if you (i don't know how) grep port :600 you will see no X, because it uses a "unix socket" or something like that ^^ I have no idea in detail but....20:30
psycholicgot this20:31
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: netstat -plunt | grep :60020:31
psycholic67 packets transmitted, 67 received, 0% packet loss, time 66016ms20:31
psycholicrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.037/0.039/0.045/0.006 ms20:31
draikDr_willis_: You believe my nVidia GeForce FX 5700LE is glx and not glx-new?20:31
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  you are getting into some Old-skool linux/X stuff now. :)20:31
mneisenHi, after installing compiz, katapult ceased to work. Anybody know something about this?20:31
Dr_willis_draik,  i never have seen what uses 'glx-new' i though that was for the 8800+ cards.20:32
Dr_willis_draik,  it should be nvidia-glx, or glx-new, ts not glx-legacy20:32
webvictimmneisen: press alt+f2, type katapult and press enter20:32
webvictimthen try alt+space20:32
webvictimdoes it work?20:32
psycholichow do i check my ip address20:32
webvictimpsycholic: ifconfig20:32
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Yeah... it totally sucks. Why can't linux be more dual head friendly. I mean it's soso these days but 3 years ago it was a desaster..20:32
draikWith Feisty, I tried glx and turned out I needed glx-new (which I found to be weird as well.20:32
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  to be honest with you - you ARE doing some weird things. and i think 1/2 your problems are from using the same user/kde on 2 different sessions.20:33
Dr_willis_what you are geting into now has NOTHING to do with dualhead. :) but more of 'dual desktops'20:33
Dr_willis_You would encounter similer issues with 2 vnc sessions, or so forth.20:33
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: mh ;) Well, you know actually, why am I doing this? Because I want two independent CF cubes :P20:34
Dr_willis_Plus you are adding compiz into the mix - and compiz is very much a 'work in progress'20:34
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: And I have two independet cubes now, its AWESOME.20:34
lespeapsycholic: ifconfig in a terminal20:34
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,   I find the cube useless... :)20:34
Dr_willis_i find most of the compiz stuff useless..20:34
merletthi! ie got some problems with the ATI Driver i got from ati.com... i installed them like in the instructions and the 3D Part still doesn work. can anyone help me please? got an x70020:34
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Well, matter of taste20:35
psycholicwell i cant ping the other computer it does nothing and says sent # recived )20:35
Dr_willis_some people spend way too much time twiddling wuith eyecandy. :)20:35
psycholici did mange to ping myself lol20:35
draikI think bazhang went MIA20:35
mneisenwebvictim: no, it does not work. it seems like alt+space does not trigger katapult any more.20:35
lespeapsycholic: could be that a firewall is blocking it20:35
psycholicyeah20:35
Dr_willis_could be compiz is taking over the keybindings. with somthing else20:36
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Eyecandy is good. It make's working more fun and less stressful. After all the stress getting it working ^^20:36
Dr_willis_since compiz does replace the kde window manager20:36
webvictimi just got it going though20:36
biovore^ yup thats it..20:36
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  sounds like you managed to stress yourself out quite a bit fighting with the system.20:36
psycholici installed guardog firewall didn't know what i was doing and fed up something20:36
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webvictimand i haven't changed the compiz key bindings20:36
G_Willakersmy laptop doesn't play nice with compiz.  I like it on my desktop though20:37
psycholici tryed to flush my iptables did not work20:37
Dr_willis_webvictim,  the default bindings MAY be taking over.20:37
Dr_willis_compiz has its own set of keybinding controlls/settings20:37
ubuntu_Is there a reason knetworkmanager would work in kubuntu and not in debian with my wireless card?20:37
webvictimsure, but i don't think but the default bindings interfere with katapult20:38
Dr_willis_webvictim,  try some other kde keybindings..20:38
Dr_willis_do any of them work. :)20:38
webvictimalt+f2 does :D20:38
webvictimalthough i will admit that i have tried to bind winkey+R to the same function, and it won't work :(20:38
Dr_willis_alt-space is often used to activate the windows/menus. thats a common issue with katapult at times20:39
psycholici don't want to have to renintall it that sucks20:39
Dr_willis_fire up ccsm and look at all the bindings I guess.20:39
psycholicguess i have to20:39
Dr_willis_psycholic,  or learn how to use guarddog. :)20:39
webvictimpsycholic: do sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop20:39
psycholici uninstalled it20:39
webvictimand give a ping another try20:40
Dr_willis_guarddog proberly generated a iptables ruleset. which is still around20:40
psycholicok20:40
psycholici can do that20:40
Dr_willis_'sudo iptables --list'  to see them all20:40
webvictimbear in mind that i don't know how guarddog works20:40
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webvictimbut i think if you disable iptables, we should be able to work out whether that's the problem20:40
doe_hello all20:42
doe_I have a quick question: does anyone here know how to use Keep to backup files to a samba share on a network?20:42
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: Well how would I be able to run two parallel X sessions each of them on one screen?20:42
Dr_willis_Shapeshifter,  vnc :) and put one in a vncclient window. or xnest20:43
Dr_willis_i test out diffrent desktops that way all the time20:43
Dr_willis_of course compiz wont work with that stuff20:43
ShapeshifterDr_willis_yeah well. ...20:43
ShapeshifterDr_willis_: I'm hungry now :P gtg20:44
Shapeshifterthx for the help20:44
Dr_willis_but it can workj as a test bed to see how to run different apps with display, and xhost and so forth20:44
Shapeshifteryeah well. cu then20:44
psycholicwell iptables has no lists i did do a flush20:45
psycholicsudo iptables --flush20:45
psycholiccan i check to see what ip address are on my network? ie... term20:46
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Dr_willis_You mean scan the network for what ip address other machines are using?20:48
mneisenis there a way to use "normal" KDE window decorations with compiz?20:49
doe_mneisen: you probably want kde-window-decorator20:49
mneisendoe_: thanks.20:50
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doe_does anyone know of a good way to automatically back up my home folder to a samba share on the network daily?20:50
doe_Keep doesn't seem to like samba shares20:50
doe_although if you're willing to help me fix Keep to do it, I'd be grateful20:50
Dr_willis_depends on how you are accessing the share. :)20:50
biovoredoe_: rsync20:51
mneisendoe_: in which repository is kde-window-decorator?20:51
ardchoilledoe_: tar?20:51
doe_I have no idea how to use rsync to do that :-\20:51
Dr_willis_!info unison20:51
ubotuunison: A file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.16-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 469 kB, installed size 1128 kB20:51
Dr_willis_Unison is a rather neat tool20:51
draikIs there a GUI app to do multiple conversions of OGG to MP3?20:52
doe_ooh I'll try that, let me load it up20:52
Dr_willis_You could mount the samba share  with the 'fuse samba' tools and access the remote box as a local directory easially also.20:52
Dr_willis_then you could use whatever tool ya want.20:52
doe_true20:52
Dr_willis_!find fuse20:52
ubotuFound: fuse-utils, libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.22-14-386, linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic (and 22 others)20:52
Dr_willis_!info smbfuse20:52
ubotuPackage smbfuse does not exist in gutsy20:52
doe_yeah I've used fuse before20:52
Dr_willis_!info fusesmb20:52
ubotufusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB20:52
froggleshi20:52
Dr_willis_:) i tend to use fusesmb all the time now a days20:52
frogglesdoes anyone use irssi ?\20:52
doe_I'll try unison first, then just use fuse if it doesn't work20:53
Dr_willis_froggles,  i hate to say it.. but i bet anything you will ask about irssi. will be answered on the very well done irssi user guide on the irssi homepage. :)20:53
Dr_willis_http://irssi.org/documentation/startup20:53
webvictimfroggles: definitely ;p20:54
webvictimthe irssi website is very good though, i have to say20:54
Dr_willis_one of the best done..20:54
Dr_willis_compared to the disaster of BitchX docs ive seen... :)20:55
ardchoillelol20:55
webvictimhaha20:55
draik!compiz20:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:56
Zyklon-Bhow can I configure d4x (download for x) in order to make it recognise my password in rapidshare.com20:57
doe_can you access password-protected shares with fusesmb btw? I seem to recall being unable to before20:57
Dr_willis_doe_,  you edit the .smb/config file to set up the passwords :)20:57
FooAtarihi.  Can someone help me with a problem mountain a hard disk?21:00
soonSounds like a bloody big Harddisk :-)21:00
blubb__Anyone knows a tool to scale a pdf file to a certain paper size?21:00
FooAtari:)  Im trying to mount sdb1, which is formated in ext3.  But I get error  hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 100021:01
soondunno - sorry21:01
biovoreblubb__: ghost script maybe..21:01
FooAtarino problem.  anyone?21:02
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eagles0513875im having a problem with java in firefox21:05
eagles0513875for some reason when i go to a site that uses java plugin firefox wants me to install java21:05
eagles0513875i ahve java 6 jde and jre installed why wont it work21:05
webvictimhave you restarted firefox since you installed it?21:06
eagles0513875yes21:06
eagles0513875i installed java after upgrading to gutsy from feisty using distupgrade21:06
crimsun_please pastebin the output from `about:plugins' in FF's location bar21:06
eagles0513875crimsun_: ?21:06
crimsun_!pastebin |eagles051387521:07
ubotueagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:07
eagles0513875i know about pastebin but i dont get what u want me to paste21:07
crimsun_eagles0513875: the contents of the `about:plugins' page.21:07
eagles0513875crimsun_: how do i get to it21:07
TimSTm_T: Sorry, why doesnt the channel just turn off name changes and other notifications?21:08
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eagles0513875TimS: find an op i think they can change it21:08
Tm_TTimS: er?21:08
TimSI changed my Nick21:08
Tm_Tno we dont change it21:08
crimsun_eagles0513875: in the location bar, type: about:plugins21:08
TimSI do it alot21:08
eagles0513875all its showing is shockwave flash and future splash player21:09
eagles0513875:(21:09
eagles0513875no java21:09
crimsun_eagles0513875: so the plugin is, in fact, not installed.21:09
Ch1ppyhello, I'm having troubles with my nvidia drivers - every time I reboot they won't load again, even though the module is loaded...21:09
Tm_TTimS: just dont do it21:09
eagles0513875crimsun_: what plugin do i have to install21:10
crimsun_eagles0513875: what's the output from `dpkg -l sun-java\*-plugin|grep ^ii`?21:10
eagles0513875nothing is coming back21:10
crimsun_eagles0513875: and `dpkg -l sun-java\*-jre|grep ^ii`?21:11
semistud2354can anyone help me...when i boot my computer with gutsy on it it says "Cannot allocate resource region 7"21:11
eagles0513875crimsun_: i tried that it just brings up another line21:11
semistud2354then i have to press <ctrl+alt+f6>21:11
crimsun_eagles0513875: note that I changed 'plugin' to 'jre'21:11
semistud2354then it continues to boot normally whats the matter with my computer21:11
eagles0513875hhh ok21:12
crimsun_eagles0513875: (I'm trying to see which Java version you have installed via apt)21:12
eagles0513875when i installed it i installed java621:12
eagles0513875both jre and jdk cuz that is what im learning in one of my courses21:12
crimsun_eagles0513875: I need to see the output from dpkg21:12
eagles0513875ok21:12
semistud2354anyone know whats going  on21:12
semistud2354??21:12
eagles0513875jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~$ dpkg -l sun-java\*-jre|grep ^ii21:13
davubuntuhey guys, this might be more of an ubuntu question than kubuntu one but you guys are probably more likely to know the answer... I was using kde on feisty and notes was available. But since the upgrade I'm back to gnome and notes is not available with kontact and there seems to be no way of turning it on in the preferences. Can anyone suggest howto get notes back?21:13
eagles0513875ii  sun-java6-jre  6-03-0ubuntu2  Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (ar21:13
antsureahola me pueden ayudar???21:13
eagles0513875!es21:13
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.21:13
eagles0513875antsurea: este canale solo hablar en ingles por favor21:14
eagles0513875crimsun_: did u get what the dpkg said21:14
ubuntu_sup21:15
ubuntu_what we talkin bout21:15
crimsun_eagles0513875: yes21:15
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Deucedeuce21:15
crimsun_eagles0513875: now, `sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin`21:15
crimsun_eagles0513875: after that completes successfully, restart FF21:15
Deuceyal i am runnig a live cd does the live cd have stuff when u intallis it21:16
eagles0513875its saying that it has no installation candidate21:16
Deuceyo21:16
crimsun_eagles0513875: make sure you have the multiverse repo enabled21:16
Deucewhen i install kubuntu does it have more stuff than the live cd21:17
eagles0513875crimsun_: found it its named j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin21:17
crimsun_eagles0513875: no, that's incorrect.21:17
eagles0513875crimsun_: which one is it then21:17
semistud2354can anyone help me...when i boot my computer with gutsy on it it says "Cannot allocate resource region 7"21:17
crimsun_eagles0513875: you need, very specifically, the sun-java6-plugin package from multiverse21:17
semistud2354then i have to press <ctrl+alt+f6>21:17
semistud2354then it continues to boot normally whats the matter with my computer21:17
eagles0513875crimsun_: i have all repos enabled21:17
DeuceYO HELP ME21:17
crimsun_eagles0513875: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin21:18
Deuce when i install kubuntu does it have more stuff than the live cd21:18
Dr_willis_Deuce,  what it dosent have you can always install.21:18
crimsun_semistud2354: that's a bit difficult to diagnose without seeing `lspci -vv` and `dmesg`21:18
shadowhywindHay all I ran into an issue.. I deleted a file from the console *console only install* Is there a trashbin?21:18
eagles0513875installed non21:18
eagles0513875candidate none21:18
eagles0513875brb21:18
semistud2354how do i show that to you21:18
Deucei know21:18
semistud2354will konversation let me just cut n past21:18
Deucecan anyone help me wiht installing things21:18
Deucei dont know how to use tar.gz21:19
crimsun_eagles0513875: then you don't have gutsy/multiverse enabled, plain and simple21:19
Dr_willis_Deuce,   What are you installing that  you neea a tar.gz ?21:19
semistud2354 Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-21:19
semistud2354        Latency: 64 (1750ns min, 1000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes21:19
semistud2354        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 1621:19
crimsun_eagles0513875: you need this line in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse21:19
semistud2354        Region 0: Memory at c020a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]21:19
Deuceiceweasle21:19
semistud2354        Region 1: Memory at c0209c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]21:19
Deuceand other stuff21:19
semistud2354        Region 2: Memory at c0209800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]21:19
crimsun_semistud2354: please don't flood this channel.21:19
Deucei dont get it21:19
semistud2354        Capabilities: <access denied>21:19
Dr_willis_!source21:19
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html21:19
semistud235406:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)21:19
Dr_willis_Hmm..21:19
semistud2354        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30a421:20
semistud2354        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-21:20
semistud2354        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-21:20
semistud2354        Latency: 128 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)21:20
semistud2354        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 2121:20
Dr_willis_Deuce,  you will need to isntall build-essential package for the basic C compiler. and proberly several dozen other dev packages.. depending on the source code.21:20
semistud2354        Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=256]21:20
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ignoramusNeed help with cd/dvd drive: whenever I insert a disc (in this case a data disc with .mp3s), its only recognized as a "Blank Disc", and when i click on the "cd" icon on the desktop, Konqueror gives the following error: "21:20
ignoramusCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:21:20
ignoramusklauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.21:20
semistud2354        Capabilities: <access denied>21:20
semistud2354srry21:20
davubuntuCan someone tell me if the gutsy version of kontact has notes available for kubuntu? And, if so, how can I get it available in ubuntu?21:20
semistud2354i wasnt sure how to show you my21:20
semistud2354 Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-21:20
semistud2354        Latency: 64 (1750ns min, 1000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes21:20
semistud2354        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 1621:20
Deuceinstalling stuff on linux is SOO HARD21:21
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semistud2354        Region 2: Memory at c0209800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]21:21
webvictimanyone know how i change which volume control in the mixer kmilo will change?21:21
semistud2354        Capabilities: <access denied>21:21
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Dr_willis_Deuce,  thats why the apt-get system was worked out.. it makes it trivial21:21
semistud2354        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30a421:21
davubuntudeuce: bollocks21:21
semistud2354        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-21:21
webvictimdude, stop spamming ffs21:21
semistud2354        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-21:21
Deucehaha21:21
Dr_willis_Deuce,  go install somehting from SOURCE on windows.. good luck.. just go try it.21:21
semistud2354        Latency: 128 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)21:21
Deuceso how do u use21:21
webvictim!pastebin21:21
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:21
semistud2354        Region 0: I/O ports at a000 [size=256]21:21
Deucei dont know how21:21
semistud2354        Region 1: Memory at c020a400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]21:21
Dr_willis_fire up the big icon that says 'add/remove' programs and start clickng. :)21:21
Deucei just unzip it in windows21:21
semistud2354        Capabilities: <access denied>21:21
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis_21:21
Deucesome stuff i wnat isnt there21:22
webvictimor in other words, shut up.21:22
Dr_willis_Deuce,  go find a precompiled binary for linux then and unzip it then. :)21:22
webvictim\o/21:22
webvictimwhat d'you want, Deuce?21:22
MinatakuNekocon 10 is over [ :( ], so I'm back now21:22
Dr_willis_the iceweasle guys may have some deb packages  made up21:22
Deucewtf21:22
Deucewhat do u wnat im confused21:22
vge!wireless21:22
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:22
Deucejust HELP ME21:22
Deucei know u have to do something wid konsol21:23
Deucebut ahhhhhh21:23
Dr_willis_Deuce,  install build-essential, read the install docs for whatever program yoyu want to compile from source.21:23
Dr_willis_you will proberly have to do a lot from the Konsole.21:23
Deuceman dis shit is gay21:23
crimsun(sorry for the noise)21:23
Deuceim out21:24
webvictimit's not, really21:24
Deuceim goina back to vista21:24
pickles_bye deuce21:24
Deucebye21:24
Dr_willis_I feel no loss - sorry21:24
ignoramusHi dr_willis :) Do you know how I can get Kubuntu to recognize data discs again?  I get the following error:21:24
ignoramusCould not start process Unable to create io-slave:21:24
ignoramusklauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.21:24
webvictimhe was beyond help, anyway.21:24
johauseranybody did manage to get an ATI RAdeon 2600 to work under kubuntu?21:24
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  you mean blank cd's21:24
johausertried to compil the driver but didn't worked :( and being newbie no other idea what to do...21:25
ignoramusdr_willis: these cds have data (mp3s) on them21:25
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Dr_willis_ignoramus,  try mounting them manually?21:25
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ignoramusdr_willis: how do i do that?21:25
Dr_willis_sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom21:25
ignoramusdr_willis: i was able to use them before i upgraded...21:25
ignoramusdr_willis: k .lemme see...21:26
Dr_willis_and here i was - finding a premade iceweasle deb for the guy.. oh well... :)21:26
Dr_willis_Not that i see the Point in using Iceweasle...21:26
ignoramusdr_willis: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"21:26
Dr_willis_sudo mount /dev/cdrom -t iso9660 /media/cdrom21:26
ignoramusdr_willis: "21:27
ignoramuswrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,21:27
ignoramus       missing codepage or helper program, or other error21:27
ignoramus       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try21:27
ignoramus       dmesg | tail  or so21:27
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  and what does dmesg say? :)21:27
Dr_willis_theres no need to paste all the error mssages. :)21:27
Dr_willis_hdc is the cdrom drive?21:28
webvictimas far as i can tell, the only difference between iceweasel and firefox is a name and a logo.21:28
eagles051387!ghost21:28
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>21:28
Dr_willis_webvictim,  EXACTLY!21:28
ignoramusdr_willis: it looks that way, but there about 40 lines of text- what should i be looking for?21:28
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  the last few lines should mention somthing about hdc.21:29
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eagles051387crimsun: hey mmy usual nickname is locked how do i unlock it21:29
crimsuneagles051387: /msg nickserv help21:29
ignoramusdr_willis:21:29
ignoramus[  732.640000] hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }21:29
ignoramus[  732.640000] hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x40 { LastFailedSense=0x04 }21:29
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grul_the difference between iceweasel and firefox is that iceweasel is completely free (including the logos)21:29
eagles051387crimsun:21:30
eagles051387brb21:30
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eagles0513875crimsun: back21:30
eagles0513875i cant find that plugin21:30
eagles0513875!sun-java6-plugin21:30
ignoramusdr_willis: it seems the discs are auto-mounting, they're just not being recognized as discs that contain data21:30
crimsuneagles0513875: did you add the deb line I gave you?21:31
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  yep. seems that way. try them in another pc?21:31
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  ive had some similer issues with some of my cd;s also lately21:31
eagles0513875no i didnt had to let my sis use the net for a second21:31
ignoramusdr_willis: they work fine in my windows box :/21:31
Angelusdoes linux have trouble mount playstation cdrom's ?21:31
Dr_willis_Im not even sure what filesystem PS1 disks use. :)21:32
eagles0513875crimsun: what was that line again if u dont mind21:32
ignoramusDr_willis: can i uninstall/reinstall the optical drive?  That's a quick quick in windows...21:32
Dr_willis_i think they are somthing sort of special.21:32
Angelusi dunno21:32
Angeluswindows reads them with no prob21:32
biovoreAngelus: dose it work in windows?21:32
crimsuneagles0513875: you need this line in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse21:32
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  theres nothing to uninstall/reinstall. :) the drivers are part of the ide sybsystem21:32
Angelusof course biovore21:32
Angeluseven gentoo used to read them21:32
AngelusO_o21:32
biovoreAngelus: then it should on linux.. iso9660 or UDF filesystem then..21:32
Angelusiso966021:32
Angelushmm21:32
eagles0513875crimsun: doesnt the source omatic code have it in it21:32
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  could try a linux live cd.  see if it can access the cddrive properly21:32
Angelusmaybe they are too scratched?21:33
eagles0513875crimsun: cuz that is where i updated my sourcelist from21:33
Dr_willis_Thers just been a LOT of cdrom/disk/drive issues lately in this channel,.21:33
crimsuneagles0513875: no idea, I haven't used "source-o-matic"21:33
ignoramusdr_willis: lemme see...21:33
eagles0513875crimsun: its actually not21:34
crimsuneagles0513875: so add it, then update, then install that package, then restart FF21:34
eagles0513875ok21:34
AngelusDr_willis_:  is it possible that the cd is too scrathced , and the playstation manages to read them because it has a very good laser?21:34
Dr_willis_Angelus,  no idea there. I havent messed with PS disks in ages.21:34
Dr_willis_i dident think PS disks WERE mountable  like a normal cdrom21:35
ignoramusdr_willis: i couldnt find my Feisty Live CD, but I have a data DVD, and that mounted/read perfectly. WTF?21:35
eagles0513875crimsun: with ath repo its not there21:35
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  so a disk made on the CD/dvd burner - does get read proplery from the cd/dvd drive that it was burnt with....21:35
crimsuneagles0513875: I gave you the precise syntax.21:35
eagles0513875sun-java6-plugin21:36
ignoramusdr_willis: tried that before- gnomebaker, k3b, etc all have  issues burning CDs - I dont' have any blannk DVDs to try right now21:36
crimsuneagles0513875: that's the name of the package21:37
eagles0513875its not finding it im even using adept to find it21:37
crimsuneagles0513875: that's because you have to add the line I gave you above21:37
ignoramusdr_willis: I have yet to successfully burn a cd in Kubuntu21:37
eagles0513875i did21:37
crimsuneagles0513875: and did you refresh/update?21:37
eagles0513875yep21:37
Demiwarhelp no sound21:37
eagles0513875sudo apt-get update21:37
AngelusDr_willis_: they are.21:37
Angelus:p21:37
paco_hi there, I've got 2 quick questions: (1) does flash work out of the box on gutsy 64 bits ? and (2) does gutsy makes it possible to select the OS for next reboot ?21:37
crimsuneagles0513875: now, apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin21:37
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  ive burnt dozens on one box.. and on this obher box i got issues. Im thinking theres some very very badly made CD/DVD burners out there. :()21:38
AngelusDr_willis_: if you didn't know , sony uses linux to make movies, so i bet it uses it to make games too21:38
eagles0513875still no candidate21:38
Dr_willis_Angelus,  sony dosent make the games normally. :) they get a cut of the profit from the Developers. Heh.21:38
Dr_willis_Sony also is good at putting spyware on its cd's :)21:38
Demiwarno sound bot help21:38
ignoramusdr_willis: i'm willing to bet there are , but when i ran windows on this Vaio, i *never* had an issue burnign or reading discs21:38
szakulecif worst comes to worse, you could always use something ISOBuster in wine to read the PS disc21:39
szakulecI was able to see my Tekken 3 disc with all the tracks that way21:39
Dr_willis_ignoramus,  im also thinking theres some issues going on wth the changes made to the ide subsystems. as many issues  as ive seen in here with drives this past month21:39
AngelusDr_willis_:  yeah but is uses linux for movies21:39
Angelus:p21:39
Dr_willis_Angelus,  shouldent the movies be GPL then? :)21:39
eagles0513875crimsun: thanks for ur help im goign to head to bed21:40
ignoramusDr_willis: thans for your help- i'm off to google some  moree:)21:40
AngelusDr_willis_: well , they use linux to make them , but they make profit from them21:40
Angeluslol21:40
eagles0513875crimsun: im downloading the bin from java website21:41
eagles0513875how do i install the bin21:41
szakulecI'm trying to compile xine from source and it's telling me configure: error: XShm extension is required21:42
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Dr_willis_im amazed at all the odd issues that peoploe have in here and weird things they want to do. ;)21:42
szakulecI've installed libxcb-shm0 and the -dev package, but it still gives me the message21:43
eagles0513875can someone help me get the jre bin installed21:43
biovoresun java 6 ?21:43
biovoresudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre21:43
Dr_willis_chmod +x whatever.bin21:44
Dr_willis_./whatever.bin21:44
Dr_willis_of coruse WHY you are having so much issues getting java installed.. i have no idea. :)21:44
eagles0513875Dr_willis_: its firefox21:44
eagles0513875i need the plug in for firefox21:44
Dr_willis_eagles0513875,  im thinking you got a firefox config Issue.. not a java install issue21:44
eagles0513875Dr_willis_: what i do uninstall firefox reinstall it21:44
Dr_willis_eagles0513875,  you are thinking in WINDOWS terms again. :)21:45
eagles0513875lol21:45
Dr_willis_Unintalling firefox will NOT NOT NOT. remove the USERS firefox configs21:45
Dr_willis_removing their .mozilla/firefox dir WILL. :)21:45
eagles0513875Dr_willis_: rm -rf .firefox21:45
Dr_willis_also could try making a new user and see if it affects them21:45
eagles0513875could do that too but how21:45
eagles0513875wait nm21:45
eagles0513875ill work on that tomorrow21:45
eagles0513875night guys21:46
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Myrth[home]hi, what means "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device"?21:50
crimsunnosrednaekim: did you need something a few days ago?21:50
nosrednaekimcrimsun: yeah... some guy had his sound go out after configuring a qemu virtual sound card...21:52
nosrednaekimbut he ended up reinstallng21:52
crimsunmmkay.21:52
crimsunway overkill21:52
Dr_willis_thats windows training kicking in.21:52
nosrednaekimthought that maybe you could help him ... bu I think everything is OK21:53
nosrednaekimwhat was...21:53
crimsun(reinstalling is overkill)21:53
nosrednaekimDr_willis_: yeah.. but he had a teleconference the next morning21:53
MementoMoridoes anyone have a wb-1400T trust webcam?21:54
Briareos1how can i print with the correct resolution?21:54
Dr_willis_what res is the correct one? :)21:55
Briareos1i need to have exact measurements on a printout, but cannot get it right, because printing from gimp does not work correctly and the other apps don't get it21:55
Briareos1gg21:55
Briareos1well i have set in gimp that 200px match 5 centimeters21:55
Briareos1thats what i want :)21:56
Dr_willis_Heck in 20+ years i can only rember one way i could print 'exact' distances with a printer. :)21:56
Dr_willis_and that was with my AMIGA  and a 9 pin printer21:56
Briareos1hehe21:56
Briareos1printing is not fashionable anymore ^^21:57
Briareos1i just generated an 6,1 gb image by setting the corresponding 600dpi size trying to workaround so that i can print using gwenview ^^21:57
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PHIxxxhi all22:02
Briareos1is my question that hard to answer? :)22:03
Briareos1or do i have to boot M$ to be able to print correctly :)22:03
Dr_willis_Briareos1,  i cant even get things to print to scale with Autocad :)22:04
Dr_willis_Briareos1,  and thats under windows.22:04
Dr_willis_with a program designed for proper printing. :)22:04
sven_ \join kde22:04
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Briareos1puh ...22:05
Briareos1the evil is: i know how to do, but gimp won't let me ^^22:06
Dr_willis_ Or course all the autocad drawings i print - have a big "DO Not Scale from Drawing" on them. :)22:06
Briareos1:)22:06
robert__what is the protocol to ask a question?22:08
aapzakshould at least end with a questionmark22:08
robert__:) thanks aapzak.22:08
aapzakgot one myself: how do I disable compiz by default in kubuntu?22:09
robert__my question is what is the right place to start for troubleshooting soundcard problems?22:09
crimsunstart by describing your issue.22:09
EllipsysAfternoon again everyone.22:09
aapzakand knowing vendor and type of soundcard22:09
robert__I've got the PCI code for it.22:10
posingaspopularaapzak: it's not enabled by default22:10
posingaspopular!compiz22:10
Dr_willis_how did you enable compiz?22:10
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:10
posingaspopularunless you did a custom iso that enables it on default... in which case there would be a ton of people out there who would love you22:11
aapzakso if I uninstall the kde-compiz stuff I should be allright ..22:11
webvictimaapzak: it's not turned on by default, so if it's starting with KDE, there's probably something in ~/.kde/Autostart that's doing it22:11
EllipsysAnyone running with a successful ATI fglrx 8.42.3 install, that has non-fubar'ed  OpenGL ?22:11
aapzakprobably in my sessions then22:11
webvictimposingaspopular: it's hardly difficult to turn it on ;P22:11
robert__Is there an authoritative source to say if Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia [1002:4383] is supported?22:13
nosrednaekim!hardware22:14
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport22:14
nosrednaekimEllipsys: yup :)22:14
nosrednaekimEllipsys: install it directly from the .run22:14
crimsunrobert__: it is supported.22:14
crimsuncrimsun@Box.pts/4.~/bugs/audio/hg/alsa-kernel/pci/hda.[0].% grep -nH 4383 *22:14
crimsunhda_intel.c:1940:       { 0x1002, 0x4383, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, AZX_DRIVER_ATI }, /* ATI SB600 */22:14
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: Really? So the version on the repos is bad somehow, but the .run is fine?22:15
jeanmass_hello22:15
rysiek|plguys, where can I get the SMS plug-in for Kopete? I can't find it in the repos. I am still feisty-fawining ;)22:15
nosrednaekimEllipsys:  there is a 8.42 in the repositories?22:15
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: There is. 8.43.322:15
crimsunrobert__: note that it's entirely possible that you need a quirk; I'd need the subvendor and subdevice IDs.22:15
robert__I don't understand your second post crimsun.22:16
jeanmass_i have 2 vista entries in grub22:16
Ellipsysnosrednaekim:  Er... 8.42.322:16
jeanmass_1 works, the other one takes me to a big ERROR on a blue screen22:16
aapzakk, sry people. Appearantly compiz ended up in my session. Got rid of it quiet easily22:16
crimsunrobert__: you asked for an authoritative source to say if that vendor and device ID are supported.  I gave you the precise line number in the actual source file that answers, 'yes'.22:16
nosrednaekimEllipsys: I only see one(8.34)... what extra repository do you have?22:16
robert__D'Oh! okay. I get it now.22:17
robert__thanks crimsun.22:17
crimsunnp22:17
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: Just says "restricted" is where the package is22:17
nosrednaekimhumm22:18
BonesolTeraDyneOk, I've got a major problem. I ended up having to reinstall everything after a major crash. The problem is, the mouse on my Wacom Graphire4 is not working. The Stylus is fine, but no mouse.22:19
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: Unless it came in Medibuntu somehow, but it would be labled that way right?22:19
nosrednaekimIDK22:19
nosrednaekimit may have..22:19
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: Medibuntu, WineHQ, and the officials are the only ones I have22:19
nosrednaekimyou can check where its from with apt-cache policy22:19
Dr_willis_wow - the first person ive seen in here that actually USES a wacom tablet. :)22:19
BonesolTeraDyneDr_willis_: I use it for art.22:19
jeanmass_why do i have 2?22:20
nosrednaekimEllipsys: and unfortunately... my mom is kicking me off the computer so I can'thelp you :(22:20
BonesolTeraDyneDr_willis_: Gimp seems work better with it, too.22:20
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: No problem. I'll see what I can find out.22:20
Ellipsysnosrednaekim: Hope your mom lets you back on soon :D22:20
nosrednaekim:D22:20
jeanmass_why do i have 2 vista entries in grub?22:21
Dr_willis_jeanmass_,  check your hard drive/system - most likely yiou have 2 'windows' partitions or drives.22:23
Dr_willis_Many companies have a 'restore' partition these days on their machines.22:24
jeanmass_i've 1 vista partition and a recovery one22:24
jeanmass_maybe the 2nd one is the recovery22:24
Dr_willis_Yep. thats proberly right.22:24
Dr_willis_on my silly machine the FIRST partition is the recovery one. :)22:24
jeanmass_do you reckon the second vista entry in grub is for the recovery partition?22:25
Dr_willis_try one, try the other. :) see which one works22:25
Dr_willis_rename them in the menu.lst file22:25
aapzakyou guys use the KDE translucency and stuff? I'm a sucker for shadows under windows :)22:25
jeanmass_Dr_willis_: should i delete it or rename it?22:26
nonewmsgsanyone else have trouble uploading pictures to ebay?  i tried ff and opera and ended up having to do it in windows22:26
jeanmass_because when i load the 2nd partition, it starts like windows is loading, and it ends with a big ERROR in blue22:27
jeanmass_plus i am never going to boot from a recovery partition22:28
jeanmass_Dr_willis_: is OK to erase it?22:28
RogueJediXHow's that Kopete/MSN fix coming along?22:34
AresilekHow do i stop the trackpad scroll thingies from working?22:34
draikIs there an app to convert OGG to MP3? I have many CDs that I have ripped with k3b and I didn't notice I was doing them in OGG instead of MP3. I wouldn't mind if only my MP3 player would read OGG22:35
nonewmsgsxfca does draik22:35
juanif i told knetworkmanager to save my passwords in plain text, how do i find the password22:36
draikxfca?22:36
RogueJediXapt gets me soundkonverter22:36
nonewmsgsubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-455963.html22:36
nonewmsgshttp://bulin.claude.neuf.fr/xcfa-download.html22:37
Dr_willis_jeanmass_,  could just comment it out with the #  symbol22:38
jeanmass_Dr_willis_: yes, there is no point in loading from recovery partition22:39
MementoMorijuan: try in .kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc22:39
clau85hello. i have an "interesting" question: i have a dell inspiron 1501 and am using kubuntu, of course. now, not everything works (like screen brightness, suspend...) but i'm quite pleased with it22:40
jeanmass_Dr_willis_: the 5 lines? title, root, savedefault, makeactive, chainloader?22:40
Dr_willis_Yep22:40
clau85the interesting matter is that those running ubuntu on the same laptop (same version, feisty), have no such problems22:41
Dr_willis_each menu entry is defined by a 'paragraph' of lines. :)22:41
clau85question: why is this huge difference? it should not be there22:41
clau85second: is it then better to install ubuntu then KDE on top of it?22:41
zach_what channel should i go to ask about hardware?22:42
Dr_willis_clau85,  i though Dell was supposed to come out with a ubuntu-variant thats tweaked for their lapttops22:42
zach_#hardware22:42
zach_?22:42
Dr_willis_clau85,  install ubuntu, then intall kubuntu-desktop is what i normally do.22:42
zach_looks good ;p22:42
Dr_willis_clau85,  the other way - would work. proberly will see no diffeances other then perhaps artwork.22:42
clau85yea, but that actually sucks :)22:43
clau85i mean, why is there kubuntu in the first place? :)22:43
clau85i mean, don't get me wrong, i love it, but this is quite a... problem22:43
Dr_willis_do it eitgher way.. why is there a ubuntu... :)22:43
Dr_willis_i see no problem either way.22:43
juanthx MementoMori22:43
Dr_willis_I installed Mythbuntu on this box. Then installed Ubuntu-desktop and Kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop22:44
clau85ok, thanks ;)22:44
goingtomoonbrbWould you all say that kubuntu's hardware support for laptop is as good as ubuntus?22:48
Dr_willis_goingtomoonbrb,  it 'should' be identical22:48
goingtomoonbrblaptops*22:48
nonewmsgsyeah the underlying stuff is the same22:48
goingtomoonbrbAll that's different is the wm?22:48
goingtomoonbrbOkay.22:48
Dr_willis_aince the hardware support is at a lower 'layer' of the os22:48
Dr_willis_:)22:48
nonewmsgsand the default programs22:48
goingtomoonbrbThanks.22:48
Dr_willis_(k)Ubuntu has the best laptop support ive seen in a distro so far. :)22:49
jeanmass_i've just installed latest kubuntu on a new asus f3sa22:49
jeanmass_and i have no sound22:49
Dr_willis_Thats the problem with 'brand new' stuff.  it may have a audio chipset thats so new - there may not be any linxu support for it yet. :(22:50
jeanmass_Dr_willis_: it worked on livecd just before installing kubuntu22:50
Dr_willis_jeanmass_,  thats a good sign then. :)22:50
jeanmass_but nothing since installation22:51
Dr_willis_You sure the mixers are just not set to a low volume/muted?22:51
jeanmass_and since install it doesnot even work on livecd22:51
jeanmass_i've checked 100 times the volume22:51
Dr_willis_jeanmass_,  thats very very odd...22:52
Dr_willis_are you dualbooting this?22:52
jeanmass_whats the command to reset alsa settings?22:53
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goingtomoonbrbI'm planning on dual booting, and I was wondering if (k)ubuntu can mart NTFS partitions.22:53
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Dry_Iceheres a n00b question for you: how do i boot up to linux?22:53
Dr_willis_goingtomoonbrb,  linux has read/write support for ntfs now with the ntfs-3g drivers22:53
Dr_willis_Dry_Ice,  when you power up after inatll you should see th grub menu. that lets you pick what os to boot22:53
Dry_Ice?22:54
Dr_willis_??22:54
Dry_Icei'm booting up an intel mac22:54
Dr_willis_'You power up' 'You see menu' 'you select linux' :)22:54
Dry_Icenope...22:54
Dr_willis_No idea on macs. i think they need to use LILO instead of grub.22:54
Dry_Icei can't boot up to sys...22:54
Dry_Iceg2g22:54
Dry_Icei'll ask later22:55
goingtomoonbrbHmm... ##windows is telling me that I'm going to kill my Vista partition if I try to split it :P22:55
goingtomoonbrbOh well'22:55
Dr_willis_goingtomoonbrb,  ive resized befor with no hassles. :)22:55
Dr_willis_goingtomoonbrb,  depends on the exact layout.22:55
ubuntu_<22:56
draik!compiz22:57
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:57
profoX`is something wrong with Kopete in 7.10?23:02
profoX`can't seem to connect to anything23:03
vzduchdo you have a firewall running?23:05
DevideZerowhen sending files in icq will be avilable in kopete ?23:05
diomac just use gaim its better any way23:06
Dr_willis_kopete can do multi clients. Not sure how well it does ICQ stuff. but in thory it should work.23:06
Dr_willis_I also hear gaim is better. :)23:06
MementoMoriprofoX`: you have to enable proposed update23:06
DevideZeroisnt . . . and there is pidgin gaim gone . . .23:06
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Dr_willis_irc is the ultimate. :)23:07
Tm_T!away > Tudor_sleep23:07
MementoMoriprofoX`: there are issues with ssl or so23:07
profoX`MementoMori: ah so it is a known bug.. how did that one slip by?23:07
MementoMoriprofoX`: the bug came out in the final release. Until latest rc everything was ok23:08
profoX`how annoying :)23:08
profoX`MementoMori: thanks for the answer though23:09
MementoMoriprofoX`: do a full update enabling proposed repository23:09
MementoMoriI think proposed updates  are a bit more secure than unsupported ones, am I wrong?23:10
profoX`MementoMori: sure. I hope it gets merged as a normal update soon.. I can imagine a lot of frustration of some people though23:10
profoX`s/though/otherwise23:10
MementoMoriprofoX`: I dont remember its bug number, let me do a quick search23:11
profoX`MementoMori: its okay23:11
profoX`MementoMori: if I'm really worried I'll go look for it myself.. for now I'll just enable gutsy-proposed for myself23:12
nonewmsgsthe correct order to clean reinstall an app is to delete the  ~/.appfolder and then remove it via synaptic and then reinstall it, right?23:14
rysiek|plguys, what do I need for Kopete have spellchecker running?23:15
profoX`nonewmsgs: I think a purge does that for you too23:15
vzduchnonewmsgs: sudo apt-get remove --purge <appName>, delete what's left of it, if any, then reinstall23:15
profoX`i think it's called "complete removal" in synaptic23:16
nonewmsgssweet thanks guys23:16
[ifr0g]ryanakca, Settings > configure plugings23:16
[ifr0g]opps sorry..23:17
MementoMoriprofoX`: cant find it23:17
profoX`MementoMori: like i said, it's okay :)23:17
[ifr0g]its in settings > configure > behaviour > Select enable auto spell check..23:18
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rysiek|pl[ifr0g]: meh. had to disable the "formatted text" option23:20
rysiek|pl[ifr0g]: that should be mentioned in the docs somewhere...23:20
[ifr0g]oh. ok23:20
winterelfhi... i have some problam doing this in the konsole "apt get-install <package>" it says i need sun-java6-jdk...23:22
winterelfhow can i make it work?23:22
winterelfi tried from the package mannager but it says error23:22
MementoMoriwinterelf: can you give more details?23:26
winterelfyes23:26
winterelffrom some reason i can't install anything in the konsole.. it say The program 'apt' can be found in the following packages:23:27
MementoMoriwinterelf: lol23:27
winterelfsun-java6-jdk23:27
winterelfmmm?23:27
MementoMoriwinterelf: the program is apt-get  without blanks23:28
winterelfwhat do u mean?23:28
MementoMoriso the command is:23:28
MementoMorisudo apt-get install <package>23:28
MementoMorior better:23:28
MementoMorisudo aptitude install23:28
MementoMorisudo aptitude install <package>23:29
winterelfho23:29
winterelfok23:29
winterelfbut23:29
winterelfnow it gives me another error23:29
winterelf,,,23:29
MementoMoritell me more23:29
winterelfE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct23:29
NickPrestawinterelf, run that23:30
winterelflol23:30
MementoMoriok.. simply run:23:30
MementoMorisudo dpkg --configure -a23:30
NyleMementoMori: are you named after the Doom 2 Megawad?23:30
BluesKaj!adeptfix | winterelf23:30
ubotuwinterelf: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:30
MementoMoriNyle: yes and not ;) but I liked it veru much23:30
winterelfwhat i would do without u guys23:30
winterelf:)23:30
NyleMementoMori: do you know about Doomsday23:31
MementoMorino I dont23:31
winterelfw923:31
winterelfnow...23:31
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NyleMementoMori: checkit out23:32
winterelfE: Invalid operation insatll23:32
MementoMoriNyle: is a free wad?23:32
Nylewww.doomsdayhq.com/23:32
Nyleno23:32
MementoMoriNyle: is an engine'23:33
MementoMori?23:33
Nyle3d engine with 3d models23:33
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Nylemouselook + asdw movement23:33
MementoMoriNyle: I was using prboom23:33
Nyleif you like doom classic, you will love this23:33
Nylein its pacakged for ubuntu too23:34
MementoMoriis Doomsday a better engine?23:34
MementoMorimmmm23:34
Nylecome to #doomsday23:34
MementoMorigood news23:34
NyleMementoMori: look at the screenshots23:34
Nyleits insanely awesome23:34
BluesKajNyle, are you here to help, ask a question or promote doomsday ?23:36
Nylelike two minutes after the small conversation ended, you come out with that statement?  other than trying to instigate something, I can't think of any other motive.  Thank you, bye.23:37
BluesKajif you are here to promot e a game , pls leave23:37
Nylew/e23:37
winterelfok... i have another problam now... when i write udo apt-get insatll bitchx it gives back E: Invalid operation insatll23:38
winterelfwhat can i do?23:38
Nyletype install instead of insatll23:38
Nyle:)23:38
BluesKajand sudo23:38
danihola23:38
winterelflol23:38
NickPresta!es | dani23:39
ubotudani: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:39
winterelfthanks for my dumy q23:39
winterelflast question....23:39
winterelfwhat does that mean (after i install): warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory23:40
winterelfgod23:43
winterelfthere is a problam..23:43
winterelfwhat's wrong with sudo23:43
sam1337Does ubuntu gutsy have a graphical way to input an encrypted lvm hdd password?23:44
vzduchwinterelf: ?23:47
winterelfyes23:47
MementoMoriwinterelf: what's your prob now?23:47
winterelfi don't understant why i can't make downloads23:47
winterelfwith apt under kubuntu or with the konsole23:48
MementoMori!paste23:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:48
vzducherror msg please23:48
MementoMoriwinterelf: paste your last konsole session here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org23:48
_Angelus_is there a p2p program for kde?23:49
MementoMorisam1337: if you can access the data manually you can create a script23:49
MementoMori_Angelus_: I know amule, azureus and limeware23:49
MementoMorithe latter is closed source23:50
vzduchMementoMori: then take frostwire23:50
t00lzf0ntktorrent23:50
_Angelus_i want a qt/guie one23:51
_Angelus_*qt/kde23:51
MementoMorivzduch: is quite different... for example frostwire hasnt italian translation23:51
MementoMori_Angelus_: why this constrain?23:51
vzduchMementoMori: last time I checked it didn't have a German translation either23:51
Dr_willismake one! :)23:52
Dr_willisGive back to the Commity!23:52
MementoMorivzduch: so many people will dislike it23:52
MementoMoriDr_willis: you are right23:52
_Angelus_Dr_willis: im not a programmer/coder23:52
_Angelus_well i wish to learn , but i didn't learn yet23:53
vzduch_Angelus_: you don't need to be for translating stuff23:53
Dr_williswith many programs these days - its just a matter of translating several files/text docs I belive23:53
vzduchyou could send the translations to the programmer23:53
MementoMori_Angelus_: communty needs not only coders23:53
Dr_willisWe need icon makers! :)23:53
_Angelus_and how am i gonna translate a GTK program to QT23:53
_Angelus_O_O23:53
* vzduch is not a graphics artist :(23:53
|dthacker|Where can I tell kmail that I want firefox to open when I click on a link?23:53
Dr_willisYou translate the language files normally.23:54
_Angelus_something which i don't have an ideo on how to do23:54
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Dr_willisjust give up then... go take up golf. ;)23:54
MementoMori_Angelus_: why you should port a working gtk program to qt/kde23:54
MementoMori?23:54
ChaosMachineHow do I stop compiz-fusion?23:54
_Angelus_MementoMori: i dind't ask to port, i asked if a qt/kde program existed to download p2p23:54
_Angelus_:p23:54
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vzduch_Angelus_: what network/method?23:55
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_Angelus_ChaosMachine: if you're using kubuntu/kde, then ALT+F2 and type kwin --replace , and press enter.23:55
MementoMori_Angelus_: which network do you prefer?23:55
_Angelus_anything23:55
_Angelus_the important is that i can download things and its qt/kde23:55
SMonkI'm looking for help with Grub23:55
vzduchwell, there is KTorrent23:55
_Angelus_:p23:55
MementoMoriso ktorrent is the first I can remenber23:55
_Angelus_no not the torrent23:55
_Angelus_i want something like23:55
MementoMori[00:55] <_Angelus_> anything23:55
_Angelus_frostwire/limewire/ares/amule23:55
MementoMoriso use amule23:55
_Angelus_amule is gtk23:56
vzduchvalknut was revived23:56
_Angelus_no?23:56
_Angelus_:p23:56
MementoMorino amule should be qt/kde23:56
MementoMorilet me check23:56
vzduch_Angelus_: what the heck.. I use gtk-gnutella in a KDE environment23:56
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vzduchmy preferred audio player (Audacious) is Gtk23:57
MementoMori_Angelus_: you are right. amule doesnt use qt23:57
_Angelus_see :p23:57
_Angelus_i don't thing something on kde exist yet :(23:57
nonewmsgswhat's the big deal with enlightenment23:57
|dthacker|nonewmsgs: some people think its cool.23:58
_Angelus_nonewmsgs: gui addicted23:58
_Angelus_i like colourz O_O23:58
winterelfi fixed the problam :)23:58
nonewmsgsill stick to regular kde with compiz23:58
_Angelus_one of the many reasons i chose linux for, KDE and Compiz-fusion23:58
|dthacker|Where can I change the program opened when I click a URL in kmail?23:59

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