[00:13] <solarbaby> sullyt: I'd be interested in helping with the Plextor
[00:14] <solarbaby> sullyt: I have one that I have not spent any time on making it work.. but I know its a nice device and worth using
[00:14] <solarbaby> sullyt: its perfect for my old laptop..  lightweight and all
[00:53] <CCB0x45> hey anyone know how to load an lirc kernel module but not have it conflict with other lirc kernel modules?
[00:53] <TheQuank> Hey all, I need some help with transcoding. I keep gettin error 139
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> arg, i hate comcast
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> actually, I hate TV contracts
[01:08] <TheQuank> you have a tv contract?
[01:08] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[01:09] <tgm4883_laptop> not I
[01:09] <tgm4883_laptop> but contracts that others have that affect how things are broadcast
[01:09] <TheQuank> ah that whole thing...yeah it sucks
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> it really screws my system up when they blackout a whole channel
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> well
[01:10] <tgm4883_laptop> when im trying to record it
[01:11] <TheQuank> oh and here we have like three sets of the samething from three diffrent cities that randomly come and go...but they dont update the listings so i end up trying to record on black channel
[01:12] <tgm4883_laptop> I was watching the Oregon/Arizona game on ESPN in HD, and halfway through the first quarter they decide the channel needs to be blacked out
[01:13] <TheQuank> Nice!
[01:13] <tgm4883_laptop> they switched it to another channel, and I didn't figure it out till halftie
[01:13] <tgm4883_laptop> so i watched the second quarter in SD :(
[01:13] <tgm4883_laptop> I was trying everything to get my firewire to prime, but it wouldn't do crap
[01:14] <tgm4883_laptop> so I pulled my box and hooked the cable box directly up to the tv and still couldn't get it
[01:14] <TheQuank> wow, that's pritty crappy Cox is bad, but they at least change things on the hour
[01:14] <tgm4883_laptop> I finally called comcast and they told me they just got the word that they had to black it out
[01:14] <tgm4883_laptop> so i have to hook everything back up after the gae
[01:15] <tgm4883_laptop> game
[01:15] <TheQuank> damn
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> everywhere else in the country the game is still on espnHD, but not here
[01:17] <tgm4883_laptop> and thats why I hate tv contracts
[01:17] <TheQuank> I feel your pain on that!
[01:17] <CCB0x45> whats the score
[01:17] <CCB0x45> of that game?
[01:18] <CCB0x45> are you in oregon?
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> Oregon up by 12, driving down to the 20 right now
[01:18] <tgm4883_laptop> 28 - 16
[01:18] <CCB0x45> figured as much
[01:18] <TheQuank> anyone know much about transcoding?
[01:19] <tgm4883_laptop> what about it?
[01:20] <tgm4883_laptop> Touchdown!!!!!!
[01:20] <tgm4883_laptop> TheQuank, what about transcoding?
[01:20] <TheQuank> I keep getting error 139 when I try and transcode to mpeg4
[01:22] <TheQuank> I'm rather new to this whole thing, and not sure I have it setup correctly.
[01:22] <TheQuank> I've done some poking about, but everyone has there own methods of doing it.  I'm really just looking to offload shows to my laptop and watch them on the plain
[01:23] <TheQuank> plane, sorry
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> nothing really comes up with a search on error 139 either
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> any other messages?
[01:24] <TheQuank> I'm not really sure where to look for more, I pulled that error off the Backend Status page of MythWeb
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> hm
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> try starting the frontend from the command line, then trying to transcode something.  Hopefully something will error on the command line
[01:28] <CCB0x45> tgm4883 you know how to set up 2 lirc devices?
[01:28] <CCB0x45> I have my IR blaster and remote working through my pvr 150
[01:28] <CCB0x45> but I have  VFD from my case I want to use
[01:28] <CCB0x45> that uses imon
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, sorry, not to sure about that.  I know you have to have 2 instances of lirc running
[01:35] <CCB0x45> yea
[01:35] <CCB0x45> I heard that somewhere
[01:35] <CCB0x45> I just need like a tutorial or something on how to do it
[01:44] <Evil_UK> alrighty
[01:44] <Evil_UK> second time using any form on linux
[01:44] <Evil_UK> my question
[01:45] <Evil_UK> i want my shared videos folder on my windows box on my mythbuntu box
[01:45] <Evil_UK> how would i do that?
[01:45] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, you need to mount the samba share (from your windows box) into a folder on your mythbuntu box
[01:46] <Evil_UK> ok thanks
[01:52] <CCB0x45> has the imdb.pl which came with gutsy been working for anyone?
[01:52] <CCB0x45> it never finds anything I search for
[01:53] <pcglue> when my linux box blanks the screen after inactivity, pressing a button on my remote doesn't unblank the screen.  i have to hit a key on the keyboard.  anyone know how to fix this?
[01:53] <pcglue> it used to work in feisty, but not after i upgraded to gutsy
[01:53] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, it works fine for me
[01:54] <CCB0x45> it does?
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, instant blanking or slow fade to black?
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, yep
[01:54] <CCB0x45> everytime I do search on any video I get nothing
[01:54] <CCB0x45> is there anything I need to set up?
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, is the video named something normal?
[01:54] <tgm4883_laptop> ie
[01:54] <CCB0x45> well how normal is normal
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> if I ripped Monsters Inc, I would name the file Monsters Inc.iso
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> give me an example of one that it wont find
[01:55] <pcglue> tgm4883_latop, I'm not sure.  it's hard to explain, but the mythtv main menu will blank while i'm watching a recording.  after the recording ends, the screen is blank and i have to hit a key, rather than a remote button.
[01:55] <CCB0x45> I dunno
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, thats strange
[01:55] <tgm4883_laptop> any error messages?
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, you don't know which files it wont find?
[01:56] <CCB0x45> like S1E2 Weeds
[01:56] <CCB0x45> or something like that
[01:56] <CCB0x45> they are all named pretty randomly
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, well that would probably primarly search for S1E2, which isn't going to find anything
[01:56] <pcglue> tgm4883_laptop, no, none that i can see in backend or frontend logs
[01:56] <tgm4883_laptop> it's most likely your naming scheme
[01:57] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, strange
[01:57] <pcglue> i think it's like the power management kicking in after inactivity
[01:57] <pcglue> but i have to use the keyboard to wake it up. whereas the remote used to work
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, yea, thats why it's strange
[01:58] <tgm4883_laptop> you could try disabling the screensaver and dpms
[01:58] <CCB0x45> tgm4883, is there any good mass renamer scripts?
[01:58] <CCB0x45> that like strip out bad stuff?
[01:58] <pcglue> plus it never used to do this while i'm watching a recording.  i mean the recording doesn't blank, but when it ends or i press exit, the myth menu is blank until i press a key
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> CCB0x45, not that I know of. I think there is a thunbar renaming app installed with mythbuntu
[01:59] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, thats why its strange
[01:59] <pcglue> tgm4883_laptop, could you tell me how to disable those?
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> !dpms
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:00] <CCB0x45> ok ill check that out
[02:01] <pcglue> tgm4883_laptop, could ACPI be something to disable too?
[02:02] <tgm4883_laptop> I haven't heard of ACPI causing this issue
[02:04] <pcglue> tgm4883_laptop, i think i find how to disable dpms: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html
[02:04] <pcglue> i'll try that
[02:04] <TheQuank> Hey is there a way to add a 2nd hard disk to the space mythbuntu can record to?
[02:04] <tgm4883_laptop> pcglue, yep, thats the right guide
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> TheQuank, yes, but it's not easy unless you set up LVM with your first drive
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> it will be much much easier in .21
[02:05] <TheQuank> how soon till .21?
[02:06]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/roadmap
[02:06] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ bugs in .21
[02:07] <tgm4883_laptop> to give you an idea, it was between 100 and 110 a month before Mythbuntu release
[02:07] <Evil_UK> tgm4883_laptopi have samaba installed and working
[02:07] <MythbuntuGuest69> :) .. i search though that today looking for improvements to the internal player
[02:07] <Evil_UK> now i need to find out how to find the shared folders
[02:09] <stevetv> lol.. better. mythbuntuguest69 doesnt suit me
[02:10] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, do you have smbfs installed?
[02:10] <Evil_UK> does it come preinstalled with mythbuntu?
[02:11] <tgm4883_laptop> i don't think so
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[02:12] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, ^^^ to mount the windows share from the command line
[02:12] <Evil_UK> ok thanks
[02:13] <TheQuank> so LVM requers a total rebuild then huh?
[02:13] <tgm4883_laptop> that will go away when you reboot
[02:13] <Evil_UK> gonna take me forver to type that lol
[02:13] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, SSH in?
[02:13] <Evil_UK> the computers right next to me lol
[02:13] <tgm4883_laptop> TheQuank, well, you could backup your shows, then make the LVM, then restore them
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, if you SSH in, you can copy and paste the important info
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> because
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> you will need it again when you want to make it permanant
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> by adding this to your /etc/fstab
[02:14] <tgm4883_laptop> /servername/sharename /mountdirectory smbfs username=windowsuserename,password=windowspassword 0 0
[02:14] <TheQuank> I'm not so much worried about the shows, as re-configuring all the settings on this thing
[02:14] <Evil_UK> hold on windows just found the shared folder on the linux box
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> TheQuank, then it should be no problem
[02:15] <TheQuank> so I dont have to reinstall everything?
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, yea, thats what happens when you installed Samba, sorry about that, you don't need samba installed to access windows shares from Ubuntu
[02:15] <tgm4883_laptop> TheQuank, how is your drive partitioned right now?
[02:16] <Evil_UK> its ok :D
[02:17] <TheQuank> Uses all of the first disk
[02:17] <TheQuank> I just ran the auto installer off the live CD
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> so ideally your going to want to reinstall everything to do this
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> or you could run trunk
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> how big is the hard drive it is installed on right now?
[02:18] <TheQuank> only 40 gig, looking to add another 40
[02:18] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, if I were you i'd reinstall
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> backup the database and reinstall, then restore the database
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> that will keep all your settings
[02:19] <tgm4883_laptop> although your going to want to do a specialized install in order to get LVM setup
[02:19] <TheQuank> I'm planning on a larger rig, once I get a better feel for what I'm doing.....
[02:20] <TheQuank> so If I blow the whole thing, its no big deal
[02:20] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[02:20] <tgm4883_laptop> well then IMO, you should reinstall
[02:20] <tgm4883_laptop> but manually partition your rig
[02:21] <TheQuank> but mean time LVM would let me span the drives?
[02:21] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[02:21] <tgm4883_laptop> LVM would let you span the drives
[02:22] <tominglis> hey i did a clean install of mythbuntu earlier, and now i get a 'hal failed to initialise' message every time i restart, and the network / disc & flash mounting don't work
[02:22] <tominglis> does anyone know how to solve this?
[02:23] <tgm4883_laptop> tominglis, did you md5sum the iso, burn it slow, and verify the cd?
[02:24] <tominglis> yes i think so
[02:24] <tominglis> it was working fine until i turned the machine on this evening
[02:24] <tominglis> i had taken out the wireless card if that makes any difference?
[02:24] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[02:25] <tominglis> but i think it had started giving me the message before that anyway
[02:25] <tominglis> i have downloaded the latest updates
[02:25] <tominglis> and also mousepad and the proprietary codecs
[02:26] <VonGuard> wow
[02:27] <VonGuard> beats the pants off of #mythdora
[02:27] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, we try ;)
[02:28] <tgm4883_laptop> tominglis, thats strange.  I'm hesitant to have you reinstall hal though.  Should we try a memtest first?
[02:28] <TheQuank> <-- agrees with VonGuard
[02:28] <VonGuard> heh
[02:28] <VonGuard> i am reformatting reinstalling mythbuntu over mythdora 4.0
[02:28] <VonGuard> but frankly, both are pissing me off
[02:29] <tominglis> a memtest?
[02:29] <tominglis> is there a command for that?
[02:29] <VonGuard> mythdora won't go above 640x480 resolution so i can't click "apply" in the gnome menu windows. Mythbuntu, however, defauilts to a resolution in the 1920x1600 range, so I can't see or read  anything on screen to change it!
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> tominglis, yea, stick the mythbuntu cd in and restart.  memtest should be an option at the boot menu
[02:29] <tgm4883_laptop> I think it might be an option in grub too
[02:30] <stevetv> vongauar.. mythbuntu uses nvidia autodetect i believe.. just edit xorg.conf to the resolution you want
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, did you try safe graphics mode?
[02:30] <VonGuard> ok
[02:30] <VonGuard> i can't choose that
[02:30] <VonGuard> i have a usb keyboard and mythobuntu won't see it until after it defaults and timesout to install
[02:30] <VonGuard> on the initial menu
[02:30] <VonGuard> what is that, grub?
[02:30] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, you can't set your bios to allow usb keyboards?
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> try editing the xorg.conf file then
[02:31] <VonGuard> nope, the bios seems not to have that option
[02:31] <VonGuard> and i can't update because there are no marks on the motherboard
[02:31] <VonGuard> there are chips and pieces from 4 different motherboard makers
[02:31] <VonGuard> i know it's bios, but american megatrands doesn't offer updates, only the end manu of the motherboard
[02:32] <VonGuard> I LOVE PCS
[02:32] <tgm4883_laptop> well foxbuntu would be happy to help everyone
[02:32] <VonGuard> hehehe
[02:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ;)
[02:32] <tominglis> running memtest
[02:32] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, hello to you too
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, that sucks. My bios has an option for legacy USB
[02:34] <tgm4883_laptop> makes life easier
[02:34] <stevetv> does anyone here use / tried a usb tuner?  i wasnt aware.. but usb has a large bandwidth than pci.. presumably why digitalnow recommend usb duel tuners rather than pci duel tuners
[02:34] <VonGuard> hmmm
[02:34] <VonGuard> salvage computer, of course
[02:34] <VonGuard> and it's even slower than what i had
[02:35] <VonGuard> not surprised stevetv
[02:35] <VonGuard> usb 2.0 is faster thn firewire 400 , i think
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, it is, but not for sustained data transfer
[02:36] <VonGuard> anyway, i am installing now. i hope this is smooth, cause i'll bothering yall with questions if it don't
[02:36] <VonGuard> ah yeah, usb is flakier
[02:37] <stevetv> :) not what i expected.. duel usb tuners open up the option of having LOTS of tuners... and improving choices of micro atx boards..
[02:37] <VonGuard> 1000's of tuners
[02:37] <VonGuard> with multiple usb busses
[02:37] <tgm4883_laptop> eh, give me a HDHomerun anyday
[02:37] <stevetv> vongaurd.. cant u just ssh in an edit xrog.conf?
[02:37] <VonGuard> ssh isn't on
[02:38] <stevetv> tgm4883.. im australian.  hdhomerun doesnt mean anything to me
[02:38] <VonGuard> and the xorg.conf mythbuntu is using is on the cd at install, right?
[02:38] <tgm4883_laptop> stevetv, that ok, i wont hold you being australian against you ;)
[02:38] <stevetv> no it generates it based on your choices
[02:38] <VonGuard> i just accidentally clicked on the desktop, and the formating bar vanished....
[02:39] <stevetv> ;)
[02:39] <VonGuard> nothing in the app tray, cause there is no app tray
[02:39] <stevetv> vonguard.. so just ctrl alt F1 and edit xorg.conf from the command line?
[02:40] <VonGuard> i didin't try. instead, i hooked up a monitor
[02:40] <VonGuard> it displays at a resolution i can read
[02:40] <VonGuard> and i am installing this way
[02:40] <VonGuard> then i'll hook it to the tv later with a premade xorg.conf, ready for it
[02:40] <stevetv> u can do that i guess
[02:41] <VonGuard> with all the trouble this machine has given me today, i am thinking rather thuggishly about my troubleshooting
[02:41] <VonGuard> anyhoo, the installer vanished on me...
[02:41] <VonGuard> it's still working though
[02:41] <VonGuard> in the background
[02:43] <stevetv> HDHomerun does look nice tho.
[02:43] <stevetv> man i hate this backwards country
[02:43] <stevetv> ud laugh at our "broadband"
[02:43] <VonGuard> corporations have more rights than individual citizens
[02:43] <VonGuard> at least in the us
[02:44] <stevetv> lol.. move to canada
[02:44] <stevetv> .. or mexico
[02:44] <VonGuard> anywhere but here
[02:44] <VonGuard> with bushy boy
[02:45] <stevetv> theyre all the same imho
[02:45] <Evil_UK> tgm4883_laptop i have the videos on the linux box under file:///var/lib/mythtv/videos
[02:45] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil
[02:45] <Evil_UK> i have 6 .avi in there
[02:45] <Evil_UK> but mythtv dosnt see them
[02:46] <Evil_UK> even thought i pointed mythtv to look there
[02:46] <tgm4883_laptop> Evil_UK, ok, so now you should be able to go into setup>Video manager
[02:46] <tgm4883_laptop> that scans the folder for videos first
[02:46] <Evil_UK> oh ok
[02:46] <tgm4883_laptop> then you can go watch them
[02:47] <stevetv> evil_UK .. i agree, in a perfect world it would autodetect them.
[02:48] <Evil_UK> thanks tgm4883_laptop everyhting works now :D
[02:48] <tgm4883_laptop> stevetv, Evil_UK you can set it up to be browsable if you like.  It's in mythvideo settings
[02:49] <stevetv> tgm4883 .. i didn't realise that setting made scanning for new videos unnecessary?
[02:50] <tgm4883_laptop> yea i think it does
[02:51] <stevetv> hmm.. ill try it then.  mythtv has entirely too many settings that i still dont understand.
[02:51] <stevetv> lol.. and ive been playing with it for .. 3 years!
[02:52] <stevetv> not that im particularly computer literate tho
[03:09] <pcglue> does anyone have streaming recordings working?  can i watch recordings through a browser on linux/windows?
[03:09] <foxbuntu> pcglue, are you talking about from the .21 trunk ver of Myth?
[03:10] <pcglue> no, i'm using .20.2
[03:10] <foxbuntu> pcglue, I thought that was only in Trunk...I could be wrong however, I am using trunk with streaming
[03:11] <foxbuntu> and yes to streams quite nice via a browser
[03:11] <foxbuntu> in both windows/linux
[03:11] <pcglue> foxbuntu, that answers part of my question... it's not available in .20.2.  =)
[03:12] <foxbuntu> pcglue, yeah...I will warn that we don't support trunk in here either
[03:12] <stevetv> knoppmyth has a flash video player for mythtv recordings
[03:13] <stevetv> lol.. but thats knoppmyth and this is mythbuntu
[03:13] <foxbuntu> stevetv, I will boot for promoting Knopp
[03:13] <foxbuntu> lol...j/k
[03:13] <stevetv> .. ouch :)
[03:14] <pcglue> foxbuntu, is trunk only available through compiling it yourself?  or can you add a PPA and do apt-get install?
[03:14] <foxbuntu> we are actually working on a community project with them
[03:15] <foxbuntu> pcglue, there is a PPA for it...but I HIGHLY reccomend to not upgrade to it unless you plan on working on Myth and bugs allot
[03:15] <pcglue> foxbuntu, ok, i probably don't want to get into that
[03:21] <tominglis> tgm4883_laptop: hey tgm, memtest is on the second pass, and there are no errors so far
[03:24] <VonGuard> the mythtv interface is very slow for me
[03:24] <VonGuard> no, it's frozen
[03:24] <VonGuard> yay
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, system specs
[03:25] <VonGuard> 2.5ghz 1.0gb
[03:25] <VonGuard> 128mb card
[03:26] <VonGuard> i'm poking at it
[03:26] <tgm4883_laptop> did you load the drivers for you vid card?
[03:27] <VonGuard> yup
[03:27] <VonGuard> it's running fine now
[03:27] <VonGuard> killed and restarted x
[03:28] <VonGuard> grrr
[03:28] <VonGuard> now it's frozen again
[03:28] <VonGuard> went into config general settings in the myth menu, when i hit escape... buuuuuuuuuh
[03:29] <VonGuard> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it just changed resolutions on me for no reason
[03:29] <tominglis> tgm4883_laptop: should i try reinstalling hal?
[03:29] <tominglis> there were no errors in 2 pass memtest
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, what do you think?
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> tominglis, post the error again
[03:32] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, sorry about what?
[03:33] <tgm4883_laptop> tominglis, is getting a hal initialization error
[03:33] <foxbuntu> hal?
[03:33] <tominglis> internal error: failed to initialize HAL!
[03:34] <foxbuntu> hmm
[03:34] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:34] <VonGuard> hmph, sure doesn't like it when i hit escape to exit to x. just sits there forever
[03:34] <tominglis> i installed this morning, and it started occuring this evening
[03:34] <tominglis> so there was a period where the machine was rebooting fine
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> VonGuard, you probably need to install your restricted drivers
[03:35] <tominglis> i have installed latest updates, mousepad, and proprietory codecs
[03:35] <tominglis> have also remove my wireless card
[03:35] <VonGuard> hmmm
[03:35] <VonGuard> weren;t they already installed?
[03:36] <VonGuard> the warnings all said i was already using restricted drivers
[03:36] <VonGuard> or seemed to
[03:36] <foxbuntu> tominglis, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291130#6
[03:39] <VonGuard> where the fuck did it put xorg.conf?
[03:40] <VonGuard> resolution is 640, so i can't even hit any buttons in the nvidia control panel
[03:41] <tominglis> hey fox, where do i make that change?
[03:41] <tominglis> can't find the option for it?
[03:42] <foxbuntu> tominglis, thats from the desktop
[03:42] <tominglis> ?
[03:42] <tominglis> i mean, whereabouts is the option to add a delay to the auto logon?
[03:43] <foxbuntu> its not inside MythTV
[03:43] <foxbuntu> well its also in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:43] <tominglis> oh ok, i will look there?
[03:43] <tominglis> is there no gui in mythbuntu?
[03:43] <tominglis> for it
[03:44] <foxbuntu> if you right click the desktop there would be
[03:44] <foxbuntu> but that is behind Myth
[03:46] <tominglis> behind myth?
[03:47] <foxbuntu> Myth frontend (the GUI on the TV) has a Xfce desktop behind it
[03:47] <tominglis> yeah, that's what i'm using
[03:57] <VonGuard> ok, can i set up a samba share to mount automatically on mythbuntu boot?
[03:59] <VonGuard> no places menu...
[03:59] <VonGuard> i am a retard
[04:03] <tominglis> the option for auto login is not used in gdm.conf?
[04:03] <tominglis> do you know where it is invoked?
[04:08] <VonGuard> fuck it
[04:08] <VonGuard> i give up. i'm installing ubuntu and then pushing in myth
[04:09] <VonGuard> maybe not even gonna bother. vlc will be all i really need
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:56] <LastMall> hi
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> I just came here to check out where I will probably spend a lot of time in the near future... :D
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Got an "old" P4 which I am going to turn into a mythical convergence box...
[18:02] <MythbuntuGuest56> I'm new to mythbuntu, one of the main atractions is burning DVD's to hard drive, but I'm unable to get it working...Could anyone help?
[18:03] <directhex> where are you based, geographically?
[18:03] <MythbuntuGuest56> USA - michigan
[18:04] <directhex> then you can't legally run "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" to make commercial dvds work. sorry
[18:04] <directhex> DMCA and all that
[18:04] <Dr_willis_> well is it legal if you run it.. but then never actually watch dvd;s :)
[18:05] <Dr_willis_> for 'research'
[18:05] <MythbuntuGuest56> IC......
[18:05] <directhex> the law says you have no right to watch your own dvds, y'see
[18:05] <Dr_willis_> but you have 'fair' use right.. but not the right to use the right.
[18:06] <Dr_willis_> I always love explaining this stuff to guys at work.
[18:06] <MythbuntuGuest56> So based this option is based on preselected geographical location from installation procedure?
[18:06] <Dr_willis_> Technicially If you have 4 kids.. and you want them to sit there and watch  the "Cars" Dvd. you 'technicially' need 4 copies of the dvd also.
[18:07] <Dr_willis_> Or so the MPAA guys said.
[18:07] <MythbuntuGuest56> I appreciate the help
[18:08] <directhex> it's not done in the installer, as it'd be illegal for US mirrors to host mythbuntu
[18:09] <MythbuntuGuest56> So this command "..." I should stay awayfrom "..."
[18:09] <solarbaby> Dr_willis: I wish I could have used that excuse in school when they'd make the class sit there and watch some stupid move in English class, while the teacher uses the entire class period to grade papers
[18:10] <solarbaby> "Teacher I will call the MPAA on you unless you cease this illegal activity immediately..  grade your papers at home"
[18:11] <MythbuntuGuest56> will the comand I found in the forum cause troubles "mtd -d"
[18:11] <solarbaby> "Alternatively you can buy 43 copies of (Of Mice and Men)"
[18:13] <solarbaby> I think the MPAA should start contributing to GPL community
[18:13] <Dr_willis_> I think the MPAA should die a nasty death. :)
[18:15] <solarbaby> I agree
[18:16] <solarbaby> I think Buffy The Vampire Slayer should stake it in the heart
[18:19] <Dr_willis_> or about 2.4 ft lower....
[18:19] <Dr_willis_> :)
[18:22] <MythbuntuGuest56> Theoretically, if I were to run the command above in a legal country, how would I be able to browse the ISO after completion of the burn for playback?
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest89> Hopefully quick question, I have two hard drives in mythbuntu pc, ide1 is running operating system, I have purchased 500gb sata and would like all recordings to save there...How might I acomplish this?
[19:06] <Dr_willis_> MythbuntuGuest89,  you could just mount the new hd. and make a soft link from the current recording directory to a dir on the new mounted drive
[19:07] <MythbuntuGuest89> There are no drive managers that I can find in mythbuntu, I sort a ubuntu noobie
[19:08] <Dr_willis_> This is when it pays to know the fundamentals. :)
[19:08] <Dr_willis_> You could install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop if you wanted
[19:09] <Dr_willis_> In short. you would 'edit the fstab' file to mount the newly partitioned/formated disk in a good location.
[19:09] <MythbuntuGuest89> would it affect mythbuntu install if i installed ubuntu-desktop?
[19:09] <Dr_willis_> MythbuntuGuest89,  it will affect it in that there will be other destops you can use
[19:10] <Dr_willis_> Im using a Mythubuntu box here. with kubuntu and ubuntu isntalled. :)
[19:10] <Dr_willis_> got MythTV on the tv. and desktop on this monitor
[19:11] <MythbuntuGuest89> so i could just run "sudo apt-get install unbuntu-desktop" without any troubles?
[19:12] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest89, unless you plan on using it as a desktop also, there is no reason to install those.  It's a waste of space
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest89> so i just nead to research how to mount the sata drive and make a soft link
[19:13] <tgm4883> how big is your primary drive/do you still want to use it for recordings?
[19:13] <Dr_willis_> theres the MythUbuntu tool i thougght that could enable the other desktops as well.
[19:13] <Dr_willis_> Mount the drive to like /media/NewRecordings  make a directory in there called recordings
[19:14] <tgm4883> Dr_willis_, you can enable the other desktops, but if you aren't planning on using it as a desktop too, they you shouldn't do that
[19:14] <tgm4883> IMHO
[19:14] <Dr_willis_> link /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/   to the new dir. (i always get the ln -s command backwards)
[19:14] <Dr_willis_> tgm4883,  This is when it pays to know the shell. :)
[19:14] <tgm4883> or set mythtv to record to the mounted dir
[19:14] <tgm4883> ie, I have mine set to record to /mythtv/recordings
[19:14] <Dr_willis_> yea. also any OLD recordings would need to get moved to that new dir. befor ya make the link.
[19:15] <MythbuntuGuest89> ueah i would prefer to have all content saved to a no-os drive
[19:15] <Dr_willis_> thers a lot of little 'things' to watchout for
[19:15] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest89, perfect, then you should format the new drive as XFS, and mount it to somewhere such as /mythtv
[19:15] <tgm4883> IMO
[19:16] <tgm4883> what is your favorite tool for partitioning?
[19:16] <MythbuntuGuest89> most my partitioning tools are dos based
[19:17] <tgm4883> heh
[19:17] <MythbuntuGuest89> im attempting to swith all desktops to linux, this is the only distro where im unable to find a gui to make it easy for me
[19:17] <tgm4883> i'd use gparted then
[19:17] <Dr_willis_> I am used to the old classic linux fdisk command. :)
[19:17] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest89, sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:17] <Dr_willis_> gparted live cd's are also a must have in the pc toolbox
[19:17] <tgm4883> also
[19:18] <tgm4883> sudo apt-get install xfsprogs
[19:19] <MythbuntuGuest89> great gParted working for me...
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest89> could i just enter the myth settings and change its default save location to say hd2 or whatever my new drive mounts to?
[19:20] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest89, yes, but you will need to mount the new drive first
[19:21] <tgm4883> IMHO, i'd make a /mythtv dir and mount it there
[19:23] <MythbuntuGuest89> OK i think i understand what drive mounting means in linux terms, its prety much a dir that liks another piece of storage hardware
[19:23] <tgm4883> yea, i'm ok with that description :)
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest89> Gparted has located my extra HD under /dev/sda1
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest89> am i able to make the mount through Gparted?
[19:25] <tgm4883> sounds good
[19:25] <tgm4883> I dont think so
[19:25] <tgm4883> as we will want to have it mounted permanatly, we will need to edit fstab
[19:25] <tgm4883> err /etc/fstab
[19:27] <tgm4883> you will want something like this     /dev/sda1 /mythtv        xfs     defaults        0       2
[19:27] <tgm4883> providing you formated it to XFS
[19:27] <tgm4883> nano /etc/fstab
[19:27] <tgm4883> ^^ to edit fstab
[19:28] <MythbuntuGuest89> got it...restart required?
[19:28] <tgm4883> also make sure that you have made the /mythtv dir first (well, before you reboot)
[19:28] <tgm4883> no
[19:28] <tgm4883> Ok, so you have edited fstab and made the directory?
[19:28] <MythbuntuGuest89> i need to make the dir
[19:28] <tgm4883> ok, make the dir, then do
[19:28] <tgm4883> sudo mount -a
[19:29] <MythbuntuGuest89> do i need to chmod the dir
[19:30] <tgm4883> yes, sec
[19:31] <tgm4883> the recording dir should be 775
[19:31] <tgm4883> and should be owned by mythtv
[19:31] <tgm4883> so if you are like me, you will have
[19:31] <tgm4883> thomas@zeus:/mythtv$ ls -l
[19:31] <tgm4883> total 4
[19:31] <tgm4883> drwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-11-03 16:50 recordings
[19:31] <tgm4883> thomas@zeus:/mythtv$
[19:32] <tgm4883> so I have a recordings dir inside my /mythtv dir
[19:32] <MythbuntuGuest89> IC
[19:33] <MythbuntuGuest89> so now that the drive is mounted to /mythtv how can i verify its got the proper storage space availible?
[19:34] <MythbuntuGuest89> and not using the os drive?
[19:34] <tgm4883> have you chmod and chown the dir?
[19:34] <MythbuntuGuest89> yuppers
[19:35] <MythbuntuGuest89> ow its the df command
[19:35] <MythbuntuGuest89> got it
[19:35] <MythbuntuGuest89> hey thats fantastic..I thank you so much for the help
[19:36] <tgm4883> that will show you your free disk space
[19:36] <tgm4883> but now we need to set mythtv to record to that dir
[19:36] <tgm4883> which is in mythtv-setup
[19:37] <tgm4883> should be second screen under general
[19:38] <MythbuntuGuest89> change it to /mythtv/mythtv?
[19:38] <tgm4883> and mythtv-setup will test that dir to make sure everything is setup right, if it gives you an error when you try to exit then we need to fix something
[19:38] <tgm4883> no
[19:38] <tgm4883> well
[19:38] <tgm4883> where do you want your recordings stored?
[19:38] <tgm4883> mine is
[19:39] <tgm4883>  /mythtv/recordings
[19:39] <MythbuntuGuest89> I made a sub-dir in the mount incase I want to use the drive for something else also
[19:39] <tgm4883> ok
[19:39] <tgm4883> so yours will be /mythtv/mythtv
[19:40] <MythbuntuGuest89> lol yeah...
[19:40] <tgm4883> you will want to make sure that your subdir has the correct ownership and privledges
[19:40] <tgm4883> but mythtv-setup will check for that
[19:40] <MythbuntuGuest89> cannot create /mythtv/mythtv/test
[19:40] <tgm4883> ok
[19:40] <MythbuntuGuest89> so i probably need to mod that dir again
[19:40] <tgm4883> yea probably
[19:41] <tgm4883> can you run ls -l in the /mythtv dir
[19:41] <tgm4883> and post the output
[19:41] <MythbuntuGuest89> drwxrwxr-x 2
[19:42] <tgm4883> should be more than just that
[19:42] <tgm4883> like drwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-11-03 16:50 recordings
[19:42] <MythbuntuGuest89> drwxrwxr-x 2 mythtv root 29 2007-11-04 14:40 mythtv
[19:42] <tgm4883> k
[19:42] <tgm4883> i'd do
[19:43] <tgm4883> sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /mythtv/mythtv
[19:43] <MythbuntuGuest89> yeah i put mythtv instead of /mythtv/mythtv
[19:43] <tgm4883> well that should be fine
[19:44] <tgm4883> as long as your in the right dir when you do it
[19:44] <tgm4883> but i'd make sure you put mythtv:mythtv
[19:44] <tgm4883> as the user:group
[19:44] <tgm4883> or is it group:user?
[19:44] <tgm4883> user:group
[19:44] <tgm4883> i'd make both mythtv
[19:45] <MythbuntuGuest89> I thought it was chown user file
[19:45] <tgm4883> it is
[19:45] <tgm4883> but
[19:45] <tgm4883> from chown help
[19:45] <tgm4883> chown root:staff /u  Likewise, but also change its group to "staff".
[19:45] <tgm4883> you want to change the group
[19:46] <tgm4883> so right now it's in the root group for ownership
[19:46] <tgm4883> instead of the mythtv group
[19:46] <tgm4883> so you do
[19:46] <tgm4883> sudo chown mythtv:mythtv mythtv
[19:46] <tgm4883> if you are in the /mythtv dir
[19:46] <tgm4883> or if you are in any other dir
[19:46] <tgm4883> you do
[19:46] <tgm4883> sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /mythtv/mythtv
[19:47] <tgm4883> mythtv:mythtv
[19:47] <MythbuntuGuest89> yup no errors now
[19:47] <tgm4883> ^^sets user
[19:47] <tgm4883> sets group^^
[19:47] <tgm4883> sweet
[19:47] <tgm4883> so now you should be able to move any previous recordings from /var/lib/mythtv/recordings to /mythtv/mythtv
[19:49] <Dr_willis_>  /mythtv/mythtv   :) -- i got WAY too many dirctories named with recusion like that.. heh heh
[19:49] <Dr_willis_>  /stuff/stuff/stuff
[19:50] <MythbuntuGuest89> what terminal command is for moving files?
[19:50] <MythbuntuGuest89> mv?
[19:50] <tgm4883> yea
[19:51] <MythbuntuGuest89> well im going to open up the front-end and see if it reads that souce
[19:51] <MythbuntuGuest89> success
[19:51] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[19:57] <MythbuntuGuest89> now the onlything I need before using the media center is to figure out why the recorded video plays back choppy
[19:57] <MythbuntuGuest89> probably the ATI drivers or something
[19:59] <tgm4883> probably
[19:59] <tgm4883> which card?
[20:02] <MythbuntuGuest89> onboard x1250 hdmi from asus
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest89> from what I read... Nvidia is the way to go
[20:03] <tgm4883> yes, but hopefully that will be changed soon
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest89> only motion is affected...still images apear clean
[20:06] <MythbuntuGuest89> mythtv does recognize all outputs...HDMI composite RGB
[20:10] <TheQuank> Hi, I can't see my second hard disk, is there something I need to do to initalise and format it>
[20:11] <MythbuntuGuest89> here you go again tgm4883.....
[20:11] <tgm4883_Laptop> heh
[20:11] <tgm4883_Laptop> TheQuank, you probably need to mount it
[20:11] <tgm4883_Laptop> what have you done to it so far?
[20:12] <TheQuank> I confermed it shows up in the BIOS
[20:12] <TheQuank> :)
[22:38] <Dr_willis_> Partition it, format it, mount it. :)
[22:45] <directhex> Buy it, use it, break it, fix it,
[22:45] <directhex> Trash it, change it, melt - upgrade it,
[22:45] <directhex> Charge it, pawn it, zoom it, press it,
[22:45] <directhex> Snap it, work it, quick - erase it,
[22:45] <directhex> Write it, cut it, paste it, save it,
[22:45] <directhex> Load it, check it, quick - rewrite it,
[23:01] <dwf_starband> is there a way to run the frnnt end in a resizable window? I tried selecting Run the frontend in a window under apperances but it didnt seem to affect anythng
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> Hmm. In the front end  select recording to watch.. thers icons at the bootom.  the CC i understand for Closed captioning. but whats the little roll of Toilet Paper, and some sort of Red Circle/Checkbox mean. :)
[23:10] <Dr_willis_> At leat it looks like a little roll of paper. :)
[23:44] <sung> hrmm