[00:00] <SMonk> Can anyone help me out with a MBR problem
[00:00] <SMonk> ?
[00:00] <MementoMori> _Angelus_:
[00:00] <MementoMori> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMLDonkey?content=10015
[00:00] <vzduch> !ask | SMonk
[00:00] <ubotu> SMonk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:01] <SMonk> !ask
[00:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:03] <SMonk> Ok, I have an AMD machine, running a SATA HD 320gb, and a 150gb IDE HD.. Vista installed the MBR on the IDE for some dumb reason, and put the OS on the SATA, now when I went to put on Kubuntu 7.10 I think it must have erased the MBR for Vista and I can't seem to get it back.. any ideas?
[00:04] <vzduch> !vista
[00:04] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[00:04] <vzduch> lol
[00:04] <|dthacker|> SMonk: grab a rescue CD that will let you rebuild an MBR.  Google for such a beastie.
[00:04] <SMonk> lol
[00:04] <vzduch> I heard there are special precautions to be taken when dual-booting w/ Vista.. (which isn't desireable in itself anyway ;))
[00:05] <Dr_willis> hmm.. im not sure how to recover the vista mbr. :) i know with XP you can boot a xp cd an duse the fixmbr command
[00:05] <SMonk> I tried to use the rescue from the Vista CD it'self but it can't find my HD's now
[00:05] <Dr_willis> I unpluged my ide drive and let my vista install only go on the  SATA drive.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> then i pluged in the ide. for the linux install :)
[00:05] <SMonk> I know vista's crap.. the whole MS is crap.. but my wife needs it.. atleast I didn't pay for it.. lol
[00:06] <Dr_willis> Linux i think - should be able to boot the Windows Install from grub with the proper entry
[00:06] <Dresken> I remember reading a quote somewhere about vista..
[00:06] <SMonk> That's not a bad idea Dr
[00:06] <Dresken> "Best thing about vista is that even viruses have compatibility problems"
[00:06] <SMonk> LOL
[00:06] <Dr_willis> ive also kept both os's totally seperate and used the BIOS to boot what hd i wanted depending on what OS i wanted to boot to.
[00:06] <vzduch> SMonk: what applications forcibly need Vista?  I'd suggest you get a copy of XP and install that..
[00:07] <SMonk> it's so true... it's such a POS. everything crashes on it
[00:07] <Dresken> Yeah well other than gaming I'm pretty much done with windows..
[00:07] <Dresken> and for that I'll stick with XP
[00:07] <|dthacker|> Smonk:http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2585240
[00:08] <|dthacker|> may be helpful.
[00:09] <|dthacker|> no one here knows an answer to my question, and I just unsubscribed from the koffice list :)
[00:11] <acko88> |dthacker| what is your question ??
[00:11] <SMonk> Hmm... thanks hacker.. that might work
[00:11] <SMonk> i'll give it a shot
[00:12] <SMonk> later
[00:12] <vzduch> acko88: [00:59:09] < |dthacker|> Where can I change the program opened when I click a URL in kmail?
[00:12] <acko88> ima li ovde srba ili neko iz exYU ??
[00:13] <vzduch> !sr | acko88
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <vzduch> dayum
[00:13] <vzduch> anyway, this channel is English only
[00:13] <acko88> OK ;)
[00:13]  * Dresken tries reading what he wrote backwards
[00:14] <sam1337> Is it possible to format a new 500gb hdd with encrypted lvm, copy the files over from my current 200gb hdd, delete all the data from the 200gb hdd and then use the 200gb hdd to expand my /home partition onto both discs so I can store tons of games, songs and movies?
[00:15] <|dthacker|> acko88: where in kontact do I set the program that opens when you click a link in kmail?
[00:16] <sam1337> |dthacker|: that sounds like a question for #kde
[00:18] <sd32> is  there a requirements page for kubuntu?
[00:18] <Dry_Ice> i can't boot up my linux system...
[00:19] <sam1337> sd32: have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)#System_requirements
[00:19] <sd32> sam1337, thanks
[00:19] <Dry_Ice> kk
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 500 MHz x86 processor <--2ghz
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 192 MB of system memory (RAM) <--2gb
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> 8 GB of disk space (although only 4 GB is required) <--30gb
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> Graphics card capable of 1024x768 resolution <--have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> Sound card (optional) <--have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> A network or Internet connection <-- have
[00:21] <Dry_Ice> i don't know HOW to boot up my linux system :P
[00:22] <NickPresta> Dry_Ice, have you burnt the LiveCD?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Dry_Ice,  you are on an APPLE machine correct?
[00:24] <sd32> i only have 128 meg and am still running,solw but running
[00:24] <sd32> *slow
[00:24] <Dry_Ice> i can't even get it up and running ;P
[00:24] <Dry_Ice> :P*
[00:24] <vip3rousmango> I'm running 7.04 KDE and I'm having issues burning anything (cd/dvd) with my DVD-RW Drive. Im using Nero Linux and all of the disks fail at the lead-out part. Anyone have any suggestions?
[00:25] <sd32> are you getting any error codes?
[00:25] <Dry_Ice> no...
[00:25] <vzduch> vip3rousmango: tried burning w/ K3b yet?
[00:25] <Dry_Ice> i don't know how to boot it
[00:25] <sd32> did you install?
[00:25] <acko88> i now runing 192MBram. 433mhz CPU 10GB HDD
[00:25] <iSeriesSysAdm> it's either the CD/Firmware
[00:25] <sd32> ahhh
[00:25] <iSeriesSysAdm> or move the CD to the other IDE
[00:25] <vip3rousmango> vzduch: no, never tryed the app. should i? better than nero?
[00:26] <vzduch> at least it's free
[00:26] <vzduch> in difference to Nero
[00:26] <iSeriesSysAdm> i would say it's better and light
[00:26] <sd32> you have to download the  disk image then burn it to a disk then run the disk
[00:26] <iSeriesSysAdm> lite
[00:26] <vip3rousmango> well nero linux is free...
[00:26] <vzduch> well, it might be free, but it's not free..
[00:26] <vzduch> ;)
[00:27] <vip3rousmango> Can K3b burn DVD-Rs as well? or is it only cd?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> nero linux was not free last i looked.
[00:27] <sd32> costly in time and frusrtration
[00:27] <vip3rousmango> ... i downloaded it for free fine.. right off the site
[00:28] <vzduch> my father has all kinds of issues w/ his burning software in Winblows.. K3b did everything flawlessly up to now
[00:28] <Dr_willis> all the reviews ive seen of  nero for linux say k3b beats it. :)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> k3b can burn dvd's
[00:28] <vip3rousmango> alrighty then, k3b it is
[00:28] <Dry_Ice> sd32: yes, i installed
[00:28] <Dry_Ice> sd32: to a partition on an external drive
[00:29] <sd32> dry ice, then what happens when you restart?
[00:29] <vzduch> Dry_Ice: then you need to point your BIOS to boot from that drive
[00:29] <sd32> ahhh
[00:29] <Dry_Ice> how?
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> vzduch: how would i do that?
[00:30] <vzduch> depends on your BIOS and its revision..
[00:30] <vzduch> better look for yourself
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> mac os x
[00:30] <vzduch> no idea about Mac BIOS..
[00:30] <Dry_Ice> i can't find any docs
[00:30] <vip3rousmango> yikes.. mac
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> shaddup :P
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> vip3rousmango,  he sort of dident mention that imporntant fact. :) and its to an external drive...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  this is an external USB drive?
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> no
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> firewire...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> well at ONE time there was some key ya held down on macs that made them boot off the external HDs
[00:31] <Dry_Ice> don't tell me there aren't any mac nerds in here...
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> but i dotn rember what the key is. or even if that still applies to the 'new' macs
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> that's for booting up to another hdd that has mac os...
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> its the 'option' key
[00:32] <Dry_Ice> nada shows up xcept my main drive
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> I do recall people saying that LILO was needed for the mac installs. not grub. But i have no experience with them.
[00:33] <Dry_Ice> where the heck do i get lilo?
[00:33] <Dr_willis_> !info lilo
[00:33] <Dry_Ice> !lilo
[00:33] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.8-3ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 355 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[00:33] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> I think you may be wanting to check the Ubuntu forums. They may have a section on the Mac.
[00:34] <Dry_Ice> kk, thx
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> of coruse booting off a external HD adds another layer of problems
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> !apple
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <Dr_willis_> !mac
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <Dry_Ice> interesting...
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> i get a bunch of stuff on lilo and stitch
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> !frusturation
[00:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frusturation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> Lilo is the old linux boot loader. befor grub became common.
[00:35] <Dry_Ice> ic
[00:35] <Dr_willis_> Im not even sure that LILO can boot an external hd.
[00:36] <sam1337> With lilo you can place /boot into an lvm partition.
[00:36] <vzduch> used to be quite a pain to dual-boot w/ Lilo, at least for me
[00:36] <Dry_Ice> hmmm
[00:36] <Dry_Ice> we'll see if i can become a linux nerd...
[00:36] <posingaspopular> !ppc
[00:36] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[00:36] <vzduch> I found Grub to be an enormous relief in this respect
[00:37] <sam1337> What would happen if I tried to plugin a pci wireless card whilst kubuntu is running?
[00:37] <sd32> is there any need for having 512 meg in kubuntu?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Plugging in a PCI card with the Power on can = a dead pc.
[00:37] <Dry_Ice> !lilo
[00:37] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[00:37] <vzduch> sam1337: you don't plug PCI cards when the computer is running.  Period.
[00:37] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know where i can get lilo?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  its a package you install...
[00:37] <sam1337> Dr_willis_: How would it die exactly?
[00:37] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  of coruse you cant boot so you cant install it...
[00:38]  * Bugzilla is back.
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  electricty arching across conectors = bad idea.
[00:38] <Dry_Ice> Dr_willis_: i can boot up to a cd...
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> removing pci cards with power on = bad idea.
[00:38] <sam1337> Dr_willis_: Could I plugin a sata hdd whilst my pc is running?
[00:38] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  boot live cd. chroot over to the exteranal drive. install lilo then..  good luck. :) i bet theres other things needed as well.
[00:38] <NickPresta> I have a twinview setup. Is there any way to stop full screen applications, like games, from opening up in the middle of the screen (splitting the game in half)?
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  i wouldent reccomend it either.
[00:39] <morphine> howdy
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> where do i get the pkg?
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> sam1337,  sata is supposed to be hotplugable.. but not sure if that feature actually a reality yet.
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  the package name is lilo
[00:39] <morphinex> Get this crazy problem folks: when I do sudo ifup eth0 on my laptop, the screen blinks off and then on for a second
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> !info lilo
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> where do i get pkgs?
[00:39] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.8-3ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 355 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> mhm
[00:39] <vzduch> sam1337: you can try everything at your own risk.. if you fry your hardware, that's your problem then.. :P
[00:39] <Dr_willis_> with the package manager, or use apt-get intall whatever
[00:39] <Dry_Ice> i've barely run kubuntu...
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> idk if i could do it :P
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  and you are trying some very 'out there' things.....
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> Dry_Ice,  yep. thats an issue.
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> hmmm
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> mebbe i should go w/ gentoo XF
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> gentoo will need a lot of reading also i imagine. :)
[00:40] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:40] <Dr_willis_> and has its own sets of quirks/problems
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> that's why i didnt get it...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> <.<
[00:41] <Dr_willis_> there may be some guide in the forums that tell you exactly how to boot a mac/install to external drive
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> i'll ask labrats...
[00:41] <Dry_Ice> http://labrats.tv
[00:41] <Dr_willis_> SOme times ya just got to go out there and start reading.. :)
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> ...
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> !forums
[00:42] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[00:42] <Dr_willis_> dont expect a magical 1 click answer either. :)
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> i know...
[00:42] <Dry_Ice> i don't mind messing around with my inner workings...i just want to know exactly what i'm supposed to do...
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> ok...here goes...
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> bbl
[00:45] <Dry_Ice> i'm gonna try this thing...
[00:45] <sgumiel> holaaa
[00:46] <sgumiel> hello
[00:46] <sgumiel> i have a problem...can someone help me?
[00:46] <vzduch> perhaps if you tell us your problem..
[00:47] <sgumiel> im new in kubuntu.............:s
[00:47] <sam1337> lol
[00:47] <sgumiel> and i dont know do anything :p
[00:47] <vzduch> my crystal ball is away for maintenance.. :P
[00:47] <sgumiel> how i can to instal msn or gaim
[00:47] <sgumiel> i have downloaded it....but i dont know what i have to do now
[00:47] <vzduch> open Adept Manager or Synaptic and browse the available software
[00:47] <bazhang> !info pidgin
[00:47] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[00:48] <sgumiel> msn is descompressed......
[00:48] <sgumiel> i dont know use adept
[00:48] <vzduch> sgumiel: under normal circumstances there is no need to download _anything_ besides the packages that the package manager installs
[00:48] <sgumiel> i opened it....but i dont know what yo do
[00:48] <bazhang> sgumiel: gaim is now called pidgin; you can install it either via adept or the command line
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> The package manager should download/install the thing. You dont need to manually download stuff and 'click' on the package. :)
[00:49] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> 'sudo apt-get install pidgin'
[00:49] <sgumiel> can u tu say me how install it command laine
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> for the command line addicts
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> Logical :)
[00:49] <bazhang> sgumiel: he just did
[00:49] <Dr_willis_> bazhang,  my ESP skill are sharp today
[00:49] <sgumiel> piding is not found :s
[00:50] <Kr4t05> Anyone have any insight about getting an Xbox 360-type USB gamepad working in Gutsy? I've tried to compile the xpad module from a thread in the forums, but it doesn't seem to work.
[00:50] <bazhang> Dr_willis_: they always are :}
[00:50] <vzduch> sgumiel: do a 'sudo apt-get update' first
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> bazhang,  now i got to go for a drive.. of about 3 hrs.... :(
[00:50] <Dr_willis_> well bye all
[00:50] <acko88> sgumiel you have a kopete ???
[00:50] <sgumiel> oki
[00:50] <sgumiel> is tru
[00:50] <sam1337> Can some usb games consoles controllers really work on linux?
[00:51] <sgumiel> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:51] <sgumiel> doesnt work ...sorry
[00:51] <soulrider> yes they can
[00:51] <bazhang> Kr4t05: it's not recognized out of the box?
[00:51] <sgumiel> command line
[00:51] <soulrider> i know theres an xbox driver in the kenrel
[00:51] <sgumiel> sudo apt-get update
[00:51] <soulrider> dont know if in the ubuntu kernel though
[00:51] <sgumiel> and after sudo apt-get install pidding
[00:51] <vzduch> sgumiel: I suggest you use the correct spelling :P
[00:52] <bazhang> sgumiel: that's pidgin
[00:52] <vzduch> it's pidgin, not pidding
[00:52] <sgumiel> pidgin
[00:52] <Kr4t05> bazhang: It's a logitech chillstream, and, no, it doesn't show up in /dev/ or /dev/input/
[00:52] <sgumiel> yeah i wrote bad here:p
[00:52] <anton__> Any good program to "film" the screen? Like fraps in windows...
[00:53] <sgumiel> sudo apt-get install pidgin   in command line and   the package pidgin is not found
[00:53] <bazhang> libxbox0 - Shared library for Xbox Linux utilities Kr4t05
[00:53] <Kr4t05> ba
[00:53] <Dr_willis> sgumiel,  you are using Gutsy Kubuntu versiomn 7.10 ?
[00:53] <anton__> sgumiel: get it through add/remove programs?
[00:53] <sgumiel> yeah i use it
[00:53] <Kr4t05> bazhang: It's not an original Xbox controller, but a 360-style version. I believe there is a difference, but I could be wrong.
[00:54] <sgumiel> and hiw i get it there...
[00:54] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pidgin   worked here
[00:54] <sgumiel> there is a gajim...(instant  messenger
[00:54] <bazhang> Kr4t05: ok, I know that my ps2 and nintendo controllers (usb) work fine, so that should as well
[00:54] <Nyle> konqueror doesn't start when I click the icons or the menu entries.  I tried to launch it from konsole command line, but it didn't start, and didn't give me any error messages, just sat there for a very long time
[00:54] <sgumiel> but it is disabled
[00:55] <Nyle> I need konqueror back in my life, please help
[00:55] <Nyle> I try ps x and I don't see it running
[00:55] <Nyle> ever
[00:55] <vzduch> Nyle: try if a reboot fixes it
[00:56] <Nyle> oh wait wati, I did restart
[00:56] <sgumiel> ppffffffff
[00:56] <Nyle> now after a restart it didn't work and i came here
[00:56] <sgumiel> im not linuxer :(
[00:56] <Nyle> I just now launched it from konsole again and I got this message
[00:56] <Nyle> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.8/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[00:57] <Nyle> do I have to change my icons?
[00:57] <Nyle> about the message, it just sits there and doesn't do anything
[00:58] <anton__> Any good program to "film" the screen? Like fraps in windows...
[00:58] <Tm_T> Nyle: install kdebase-dbg
[00:58] <Nyle> hey dude Tm_T that wants me to download 150+mb of packages
[00:59] <Nyle> half hour download
[00:59] <Tm_T> and?
[00:59] <Nyle> oh nothing
[00:59] <Tm_T> without it your console output is usually worthless ;)
[00:59] <Nyle> I see
[00:59] <Nyle> oh dbg is debug
[00:59] <Tm_T> yes
[00:59] <bazhang> anton__: byzanz or istanbul
[00:59] <anton__> bazhang: Thanks!
[01:00] <anton__> bazhang: Did you get my pm?
[01:00] <Nyle> well I tried to change my icons and now my icon changing window is stuck and blank
[01:00] <Nyle> icons changed though
[01:00] <bazhang> anton__: no
[01:01] <sgumiel> someone can help me¿?
[01:01] <Nyle> I mean I have 2 gb ram, I just rebooted the system, I have a 512mb swap file which is never used (which is why i don't have a swap partition)
[01:01] <Nyle> so that isn't a problem
[01:02] <Tm_T> sgumiel: help in what? "help me" doesnt get you help
[01:02] <Tm_T> k: stop
[01:02] <sgumiel> i dont know how to instal pidgin ....
[01:02] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[01:02] <sgumiel> people said me sudo apt-get update
[01:02] <bazhang> g'night
[01:03] <sgumiel> and after sudo apt-get install pidgin ....but it doestn world
[01:03] <sgumiel> work**
[01:03] <bazhang> sgumiel: you need to be patient--and let people help you.
[01:04] <sgumiel> yeah! i am waiting
[01:04] <Nyle> sgumiel: what doesn't work?
[01:04] <sgumiel> the command say me that pidgin is not found :s
[01:04] <Nyle> sgumiel: hmm
[01:04] <bazhang> he can't get pdigin or msn
[01:04] <sgumiel> i think u download it with update...
[01:04] <Nyle> !info pidgin
[01:04] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[01:04] <bazhang> err pidgin
[01:04] <Tm_T> sgumiel: Gutsy?
[01:04] <sgumiel> yeah
[01:05] <vincent_> I wonder if it's necessary to change dpi value... I have dpi of 99x98 on a 20inch lcd. advice.
[01:05] <dario> buenas
[01:06] <sgumiel> buenas
[01:06] <sgumiel> ablas español?
[01:06] <Nyle> that number is ridiculous
[01:06] <Nyle> you can't possibly have a dpi of 99x98
[01:06] <bazhang> !es sgumiel
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es sgumiel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <dario> si
[01:06] <Tm_T> !es | dario
[01:06] <ubotu> dario: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:06] <bazhang> ugh
[01:06] <Tm_T> bazhang: learn ;)
[01:07] <bazhang> I know, but fingers refuse--denied!
[01:07] <_Angelus_> what is this error
[01:07] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ Opt/Epsxe/epsxe
[01:07] <_Angelus_> Opt/Epsxe/epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:07] <vincent_> Nyle: everything looks fine on my screen. alot of people have that dpi set google it :p
[01:08] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: you need libgtk atleast
[01:08] <sgumiel> dario tu sabes como instalar el gaim o el msn en el kubuntu
[01:08] <_Angelus_> i have it Tm_T
[01:08] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: right version?
[01:08] <posingaspopular> !it
[01:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:08] <posingaspopular> oh wait..
[01:08] <posingaspopular> !es
[01:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:09] <bazhang> :}
[01:09] <Tm_T> posingaspopular: come on, no need to repeat
[01:09] <_Angelus_> yeah Tm_T
[01:09] <sgumiel> im sorry
[01:09] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: then binary youre using doesnt just find it
[01:09] <Kr4t05> Hrm///
[01:09] <_Angelus_> Tm_T:
[01:10] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ ldd Opt/Epsxe/epsxe
[01:10] <_Angelus_>         not a dynamic executable
[01:10] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: and?
[01:10] <_Angelus_> i dunno someone told me to do that
[01:10] <_Angelus_> does it mean it cannot find libraries or something
[01:11] <_Angelus_> btw this a pre-compiled executable
[01:11] <Tm_T> yes I know it is that :)
[01:11] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: where did you find that binary? does it have installing instructions? are there Ubuntu packaged replacement?
[01:12] <_Angelus_> no there isn't
[01:12] <_Angelus_> its a playstation emulator
[01:12] <Tm_T> I see
[01:12] <Tm_T> well, I have no idea about how that binary was compiled
[01:12] <Tm_T> so hard to help
[01:12] <_Angelus_> i see
[01:13] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Do you have the libgtk1.2 package installed?
[01:14] <_Angelus_> yes
[01:15] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Did you try making a symbolic link?
[01:15] <_Angelus_> no
[01:15] <_Angelus_> how can i do it?
[01:15] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Sorry, never mind. Didn't notice it's even named the same
[01:16] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Forget it, my bad
[01:16] <_Angelus_> could it be because im using a 64bit OS
[01:16] <_Angelus_> and the prog is 32bit
[01:16] <_Angelus_> ?
[01:16] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: I can only guess at this point
[01:17] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: not only that, there's lots of other things
[01:17] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: How about trying PCSX?
[01:17] <_Angelus_> tried it
[01:17] <_Angelus_> but it didn't have the plugin to run directly from cd
[01:17] <_Angelus_> it had only the one to run from ISO
[01:18] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Just a sec...
[01:18] <_Angelus_> ok
[01:18] <Tm_T> sgumiel: you're there?
[01:19] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: I'm sorry again. Didn't find anything. CDR Mooby is the plugin you used?
[01:20] <_Angelus_> yeah
[01:21] <_Angelus_> which loads only from ISO
[01:21] <_Angelus_> also, Kubuntu Feisty had a PSX or PCSX package
[01:21] <_Angelus_> which it got removed on gutsy
[01:21] <_Angelus_> i wonder why
[01:21] <_Angelus_> or maybe it's because im using the 64bit version
[01:22] <RogueJediX> Probably. I have a 32-bit processor and I can see it in the repos
[01:22] <_Angelus_> you're using gutsy?
[01:22] <RogueJediX> Yes
[01:22] <_Angelus_> if yes, then thats the reason
[01:22] <_Angelus_> hehe
[01:23] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Oh, yeah. There's actually another emulator you can try
[01:23] <_Angelus_> which one
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> is kde 4 in hardy
[01:24] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: by default? no
[01:24] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/
[01:24] <midnightmaniac> Hi all :)
[01:24] <atlfalcons866> why
[01:25] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: wont be stable enough for LTS release
[01:25] <atlfalcons866> so hardy kde is going to be like gutsy then?
[01:25] <Tm_T> umm no
[01:26] <roomulo> hello, there
[01:27] <roomulo> how to set konqueror as default file explorer on gutsy?
[01:27] <Tm_T> atlfalcons866: ofcourse KDE3 is still moving train
[01:27] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: remove dolphin
[01:28] <roomulo> atlfalcon866: just remove?
[01:29] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: thats the only way i know how
[01:29] <atlfalcons866> roomulo: sudo apt-get remove dolphin
[01:29] <Jucato> ???
[01:29] <Jucato> !d3lphin
[01:29] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[01:30] <_Angelus_> RogueJediX:
[01:30] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$ Opt/pSX/pSX
[01:30] <_Angelus_> Opt/pSX/pSX: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <_Angelus_> angelus@POTcore:~$
[01:30] <atlfalcons866> !Konqueror
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <biovore> _Angelus_: thats because you need libgtkglext
[01:30] <_Angelus_> i installed it
[01:30] <_Angelus_> :o
[01:30] <biovore> you sure you got the right one?
[01:31] <biovore> might have the wrong version of the lib..
[01:31] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Installed what? libgtkglext1?
[01:31] <_Angelus_> yes RogueJediX
[01:33] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Well, I'm out of ideas then. ePSXe, PCSX and epSX are about the only three Linux Playstation emulators I'm aware of
[01:34] <_Angelus_> pcsx is the only one that worked
[01:34] <Jucato> !info epsxe
[01:34] <ubotu> Package epsxe does not exist in gutsy
[01:34] <RogueJediX> Sorry, epSX = pSX
[01:34] <roomulo> atlfalcons866: i followed the ubotu sugestion and worked
[01:34] <Jucato> er... it was there before :/
[01:34] <roomulo> atlfalcons866: thank you
[01:34] <atlfalcons866> thank Jucato
[01:34] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: How about ripping the CD and running it through Mooby?
[01:35] <Jucato> !info pcsx
[01:35] <ubotu> pcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:36] <_Angelus_> yeah
[01:36] <_Angelus_> thats what i want
[01:37] <Jucato> just install it through Adept or apt-get?
[01:38] <wesley> with wich app i need to lauch when taking screenshots with the shortcut from compiz fusion
[01:38] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Right, then run K3B, click CD copy and when the windows pops up, check "Only create image"
[01:38] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Also, don't forget to click the Image tab and set the directory where you want your image ripped to
[01:38] <hero> i <3 kubuntu
[01:38] <_Angelus_> i know man
[01:38] <bazhang> wesley: you need to look at the key bindings in the settings manager
[01:38] <_Angelus_> but its not worth making an image of every cd
[01:38] <_Angelus_> lol
[01:42] <profoX`> wesley: hey where are you from? :P
[01:43] <profoX`> wesley: in compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) for the screenshot application you can put ksnapshot if that's what you mean
[01:45] <kwtm_> Oh my god, I accidentally left this IRC program running for the past 6 hours, and bazhang is *still* here!!
[01:45] <kwtm_> Okay, I better go.  Bye, all!
[01:45] <bazhang> kwtm_: I'm always here.. :}
[01:46] <RogueJediX> _Angelus_: Sorry, but I honestly can't think of another way
[01:47] <Jucato> bazhang: and you ask me if I ever sleep? :)
[01:47] <wesley> i am from the netherlands
[01:47] <bazhang> Jucato: I'm trying to follow in your footsteps :}
[01:48] <Jucato> lol
[01:48] <bazhang> glad to see you finally got some downtime
[01:48] <RogueJediX> I'm off to bed, bye
[01:49] <Max-P> Who know how to disable the Power Manager ?(Because I am using KLaptop)
[01:52] <efektz> anyone here that can help me with kubuntu
[01:52] <MasterShrek> efektz, probably, this IS #kubuntu
[01:53] <efektz> so i take that as a yes....
[01:53] <Jucato> !anyone
[01:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:53] <efektz> well lately i been getting a bit scared.....im unable of blocking people on AIM with kopeto or pidgin , is there any suggestions ? maybe another aim that actually blocks stranges
[01:54] <MasterShrek> efektz, thats not necessarily a kubuntu question, id ask in #pidgin, but im not exactly sure myself, i dont really block people
[02:06] <anto_> hola alguien que quiera hablar con migo?
[02:06] <biovore> !es
[02:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:08] <toxop1asma> i have a noob question about hardware
[02:08] <toxop1asma> does video card matter for much other than games?
[02:09] <bazhang> 3d effects if you like them
[02:09] <toxop1asma> what about 2d stuff, like dvds and hdtv?
[02:09] <bazhang> what card do you have?
[02:09] <toxop1asma> i have a geforce2, 64m.
[02:10] <bazhang> more than sufficient
[02:10] <toxop1asma> thanks!
[02:10] <bazhang> no problem!
[02:10] <toxop1asma> and just out of curiosity, would it be any good for compiz or such?
[02:11] <bazhang> toxop1asma: I got compiz going on a 7 year old ati 340M card.. bit sluggish, but worked
[02:12] <profoX`> actually, hdtv might be a problem I think :P
[02:12] <bazhang> really?
[02:12] <bazhang> 740p or 1080?
[02:12] <_Rukus> is there XGL/Compiz for Gutsy? i'm fairly new to kubuntu, and i cannot seem to find if there is a solid way to make that work
[02:12] <bazhang> or is that 720?
[02:13] <profoX`> bazhang: well, i'm not sure, but I tried to run 1080p with video acceleration on my geforce 3 once and it worked, but it wasn't really smooth
[02:13] <_Rukus> 720
[02:13] <bazhang> thanks _Rukus
[02:13] <_Rukus> np
[02:13] <bazhang> and yes of course there is compiz-fusion
[02:13] <profoX`> bazhang: I could make it smoother with some mplayer-fu fiddling, but then the quality was weirder :)
[02:13] <toxop1asma> profoX`: are you sure that was due to the card, though?
[02:13] <bazhang> it's what we live for :}
[02:14] <_Rukus> i think i need a walkthrough if there is one
[02:14] <_Rukus> to make it work
[02:14] <profoX`> toxop1asma: ah, well, it was a while ago, I can test it again on my Intel graphics Card if you want :P all in all it should be a bit faster than a geforce 2 i think
[02:14] <bazhang> _Rukus: it's right here
[02:14] <_Rukus> ?
[02:14] <bazhang> can you use the terminal _Rukus?
[02:14] <_Rukus> did i come at the right time?
[02:14] <profoX`> _Rukus: hold on. Xgl is probably not what you want. which graphics card do you have
[02:14] <_Rukus> yah
[02:14] <_Rukus> ATI 200m
[02:14] <_Rukus> lappy
[02:15] <profoX`> Xgl is almost not needed anymore (actually, it isn't needed anymore for any card nowadays) AIGLX is the future
[02:15] <profoX`> I'm not sure whether the new fglrx driver is already in Gutsy (it has AIGLX support)
[02:15] <profoX`> but otherwise, you have to whitelist the fglrx driver and install xserver-xgl
[02:15] <_Rukus> i also run 64bit (which i found can be tricky at times)
[02:15] <bazhang> _Rukus: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald
[02:15] <profoX`> but that's just a temporary thing
[02:15] <profoX`> in the future it'll be nicer
[02:15] <_Rukus> ugh i cant listen to so many people at the same time
[02:15] <_Rukus> lol
[02:16] <profoX`> when the AIGLX driver is in Hardy or something
[02:16] <_Rukus> i dont know what is right and what is wrong
[02:16] <profoX`> yea it's confusing, and we're talking about different things :P
[02:16] <bazhang> hahaha you listen you hear things?
[02:16] <_Rukus> same sh*t man
[02:16] <_Rukus> lol
[02:16] <profoX`> wait, long story short
[02:16] <profoX`> did you already install the fglrx driver ?
[02:16] <toxop1asma> profoX`: thanks, but i'm probably not worth the trouble. how does one look for a good 2d video card, though? all the benchmarks concentrate on games
[02:16] <profoX`> (the proprietary graphics card driver?)
[02:16] <_Rukus> this is my setup  Amd 3200+ 64bit with xpress200m notebook
[02:17] <_Rukus> i dont know
[02:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: I have no idea.. my intel graphics card can do 3d you know ;) it's just not meant for high-performance games, but I occasionally play openarena and stuff
[02:17] <toxop1asma> a
[02:17] <toxop1asma> err. wrong finger placement :/
[02:18] <profoX`> :P
[02:18] <_Rukus> can i install it using my Adept Manager? is that fine?
[02:18] <_Rukus> i found it in there not installed
[02:18] <toxop1asma> profoX`: what card is it? i didn't even know Intel made cards. i thought they only did onboard video (for which there are good drivers)
[02:18] <profoX`> toxop1asma: well it IS an on board video card
[02:18] <profoX`> toxop1asma: nevertheless it still is a graphics card :P
[02:19] <_Rukus> !!
[02:19] <profoX`> it works remarkably well for most things
[02:19] <_Rukus> i wish i knew what to do haha
[02:19] <toxop1asma> oh. in that case i didn't know they were called cards :p i stopped worrying about this stuff a long time ago, but now my hardware is getting crusty
[02:20] <profoX`> _Rukus: yea well.. it's a bit complicated with AMD/ATI.. you have several different solutions to get that "3D compiz stuff" running.. both have advantages and disadvantages..
[02:20] <profoX`> for now I'd just go with Xgl.. when Hardy Heron (the next Kubuntu release) is here you'll probably want to use AIGLX though
[02:20] <profoX`> but first check whether your graphics driver is installed correctly
[02:21] <_Rukus> guhhh
[02:21] <profoX`> what does "fglrxinfo" give you in a terminal window? (k menu - system - terminal/konsole)
[02:21] <_Rukus> i am nna take this all as new information as i research
[02:21] <_Rukus> nothing too hasty for now
[02:21] <bazhang> we'll be here haha
[02:22] <_Rukus> lol tells me to install spoken of driver
[02:22] <_Rukus> lol thanks bazhang
[02:22] <profoX`> nyea I think the ubuntu guys made a rash decision by enabling compiz by default through AIGLX in gutsy
[02:22] <_Rukus> i'm gonna install it
[02:22] <profoX`> of course it's nice and all, but right now it has some serious limitations that aren't worked out yet
[02:23] <profoX`> (although upstream X.org and compiz are actively working on it, should all work really nice in Hardy Heron)
[02:23] <_Rukus> ive come across some annoyances so far, like the k-menu and kopete
[02:23] <profoX`> _Rukus: whats wrong with the K-menu? I myself use Kick-off because the K-menu is so "old" :)
[02:23] <profoX`> kickoff is pretty nice
[02:23] <profoX`> only the point-and-activate is a bit annoying sometimes.. not sure how to disable that
[02:24] <_Rukus> it has _entries :k-menu  before everything
[02:24] <profoX`> _Rukus: huh???
[02:24] <_Rukus> i'm new so i use whats there
[02:24] <_Rukus> serious
[02:24] <_Rukus> one sec
[02:24] <profoX`> _Rukus: that's pretty strange :P
[02:24] <profoX`> shouldn't be there
[02:24] <_Rukus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/135084
[02:24] <_Rukus> theres the big reference. started reading a bit. its not a big deal, i "fixed" it but i dont get a description now, i just see program names
[02:25] <_Rukus> i changed it to say "name only" in menu
[02:25] <profoX`> thats nasty but they explain a workaround to fix it in the comments
[02:25] <_Rukus> ok i installed the driver now
[02:25] <_Rukus> do i need to reboot now?
[02:26] <profoX`> _Rukus: not necessarily, this is not windows, but because it's a proprietary driver it's best if you do restart to be sure
[02:26] <_Rukus> ok
[02:26] <profoX`> although an X restart would probably suffice
[02:26] <profoX`> :)
[02:26] <_Rukus> one sec
[02:26] <_Rukus> how do i do that
[02:26] <_Rukus> the most terminal and commads i ever used were in my irc shell
[02:27] <_Rukus> lol
[02:27] <profoX`> _Rukus: uhm, well, close your open applications and press ctrl+alt+delete, that's the quick way :P remember: the whoole graphical environment will restart so save changes first
[02:27] <bazhang> kbfx--much nicer
[02:27] <profoX`> i prefer kickoff over kbfx
[02:27] <bazhang> kickoff is very nice too :}
[02:27] <profoX`> :-)
[02:28] <sMonk> I need some help.. I don't know if I f'd things up good now or not.. I have 2 hd's.. a ide and a Sata, Vista was installed on the Sata but the MBR was put on the IDE (i don't know why vista just does that) now after a while, I tried to install Kubuntu 7.1 and grub erased the MBR and put it's own in.. vista will not boot (all my wedding photos are on there inc other photos, resumes.. etc) I have tried putting in the Vista install
[02:28] <sMonk> dvd, and it does not see any hard drives and wants me to install drivers from the disk (wich I cannot find them) I have tried everything, for a while Kubuntu was showing the vista HD but would not mount it.. now it is not showing just the IDE is. Please I need some help.. I have searched every last forum I can think of.
[02:28] <profoX`> i hope that lancelot and raptor thing in KDE 4 will be in 4.0 or 4.1 and work :) those look real nice
[02:28] <froggles> hi
[02:28] <profoX`> as a menu replacement
[02:28] <froggles> it appears that ssh times out faster than other implementations of ssh clients (putty).
[02:29] <bazhang> they sure do--raptor especially
[02:29] <_Rukus> i accidentally did that too sMonk.  i said "meh", enable ntfs-3g supprt hooked up my external USB sata drive to my laptop and transferred the partition to my external usb drive
[02:29] <profoX`> sMonk: auch, that sounds scary.. can you open up a terminal window (like Konsole)? K menu - system - terminal/konsole if I'm not mistaken
[02:29] <bazhang> sMonk: which is the internal kubuntu or other?
[02:29] <profoX`> sMonk: type "sudo fdisk -l" and copy/paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:29] <_Angelus_> is it posible to use kubuntu without a drive at all
[02:29] <_Angelus_> ?
[02:30] <sMonk> both are internal drives..
[02:30] <bazhang> _Angelus_: hard drive cd drive
[02:30] <sMonk> yeah, I'm in Kubuntu right now, I can get consol etc
[02:30] <_Rukus> do u have an external hard drive?
[02:30] <sMonk> no
[02:30] <_Rukus> maybe you could atleast do what i did
[02:30] <profoX`> _Angelus_: you'll need something to have the data on :P
[02:30] <_Rukus> or install ntfs-3g into your distro
[02:30] <_Angelus_> i know
[02:30] <_Rukus> and it gives you ntfs access
[02:30] <_Angelus_> its just a test
[02:30] <profoX`> _Angelus_: so you'll probably atleast want a hard disk drive or something
[02:30] <_Angelus_> because a friend booted gentoo without a drive
[02:31] <bazhang> pendrivelinux dot com :}
[02:31] <_Angelus_> and he told me, try booting kubuntu without a drive
[02:31] <profoX`> _Angelus_: well, what do you mean "without a drive"? without a hard drive?
[02:31] <_Angelus_> yeah
[02:31] <profoX`> bazhang: yea but then the question is.. is a pendrive a drive? :P
[02:31] <profoX`> you can boot ubuntu from a usb stick yes
[02:31] <_Angelus_> no drives., just ram and network
[02:32] <_Angelus_> networked to another box
[02:32] <profoX`> _Angelus_: that might be possible if the computers supports booting over the net
[02:32] <bazhang> profoX`: with casper rw then probably yes though no video compositing I'm guessing
[02:32] <sMonk> OK ProfoX I posted that text you want
[02:32] <profoX`> _Angelus_: i never tried it though
[02:32] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, can you give me the link?
[02:32] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43364/
[02:32] <profoX`> sMonk: thanks
[02:33] <profoX`> sMonk: sda1 seems to be your windows partition
[02:33] <Rukus> u can liveboot
[02:33] <profoX`> sMonk: but something seems to be wrong with the partition table on that drive
[02:34] <profoX`> Rukus: are you _Rukus from a while ago?
[02:34] <Rukus> yes
[02:34] <Rukus> sorry
[02:34] <Rukus> u mean like moments ago right
[02:34] <sMonk> yeah, like I was saying, for some reason when I installed vista it put the mBR on the IDE drive, but put all the program on the Sata (leaving no mbr sector)
[02:35] <sMonk> now that the mbr is gone, and it's now ext3 and windows cant see that, it's all f'd up
[02:35] <Rukus> i'm on my windows XP machine that i use for satellite TV and DVD's and music and movies etc
[02:35] <Rukus> haha
[02:35] <sMonk> in a nutshell
[02:36] <profoX`> sMonk: try sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: yea my English is a little broken :P
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: I'm no native speaker
[02:36] <profoX`> ..or typer
[02:36] <bazhang> I;m not a native typer :}
[02:36] <Rukus> lol its ok, i understood u well enough
[02:36] <profoX`> Rukus: does fglrxinfo work now?
[02:36] <bazhang> err I'm
[02:36] <Rukus> one sec just rebooted
[02:37] <Kr4t05> Has anyone else been successful in getting a wired Logitech Chillstream to work in Gutsy?
[02:37] <profoX`> sMonk: sorry I meant: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[02:37] <profoX`> s instread of h
[02:37] <profoX`> Kr4t05: whats that for a thing?
[02:37] <profoX`> a chillstream
[02:37] <profoX`> sounds neat
[02:38] <Kr4t05> profoX`: It's a gamepad.
[02:38] <sMonk> ProfoX.. here is the new msg   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43367/
[02:38] <_Rukus> hey
[02:38] <sMonk> oops
[02:38] <sMonk> hold on
[02:38] <_Rukus> no
[02:38] <_Rukus> it never worked
[02:39] <_Rukus> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:39] <profoX`> sMonk: you might want to try to type the letter "w" and then Enter to try and fix the partition table
[02:39] <_Rukus> couple more errors, i'll paste if relevant
[02:39] <profoX`> sMonk: I'm not sure it'll work though
[02:39] <sMonk> hold on here you go    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43368/
[02:39] <profoX`> _Rukus: I don't think they are relevant.. did you try 'fglrx' as a regular user?
[02:40] <Rukus> i terminaled as root
[02:40] <profoX`> Rukus: well, don't :)
[02:40] <profoX`> it's not needed
[02:40] <Kr4t05> So, anyone got any clues?
[02:40] <Rukus> oh
[02:40] <Rukus> worked now
[02:40] <profoX`> (and you'd have to give root permission to access X with xhost if you really wanted it like that)
[02:40] <Rukus> came back with some info about opengl
[02:41] <profoX`> okay that sounds like it's good
[02:41] <Rukus> now...
[02:41] <Rukus> whats my next step in getting that compiz workin
[02:41] <profoX`> Rukus: then for now (for 6 months atleast, the next ubuntu version i would do it a different way :P)
[02:41] <profoX`> I'd install xserver-xgl
[02:41] <profoX`> you can via adept if you want, but
[02:41] <profoX`> a terminal types faster :)
[02:42] <juan> hi! does anyone know how to enable voice chat with kopete?
[02:42] <profoX`> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:43] <sMonk> ProfoX - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43368/   that's what I get when I try to fdisk sda
[02:43] <Rukus> ok thjanks dude
[02:43] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, just type "w" and enter
[02:43] <profoX`> sMonk: and then show me a new output of "sudo fdisk -l" again
[02:43] <Rukus_> there
[02:44] <profoX`> Rukus, Rukus_: you're dubble?
[02:44] <profoX`> :P
[02:44] <Rukus> this is for me
[02:44] <Rukus> sorry
[02:44] <profoX`> double*
[02:44] <Rukus> sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:44] <Rukus> get it over to my other pc
[02:44] <Rukus> lol
[02:44] <Rukus> copy/paste
[02:44] <profoX`> lol ok
[02:44] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know how to boot linux off an external drive for mac?
[02:44] <profoX`> yea that command should download and install the necessary stuff for compiz through Xgl
[02:44] <sMonk> ProfoX - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43369/
[02:44] <toxop1asma> another question: it's pretty much universally agreed now that one should buy nvidia over ati for linux, right?
[02:44] <profoX`> toxop1asma: it wàs
[02:45] <profoX`> toxop1asma: right now I'm not sure what the future holds
[02:45] <Rukus_> dubble?
[02:45] <Rukus_> oh ahha
[02:45] <profoX`> since AMD took over ATI the fglrx driver has seen very good improvements
[02:45] <Rukus_> its easier to copy and paste like i said
[02:45] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: try ubuntugeek dot com
[02:45] <Rukus_> lol
[02:45] <profoX`> so I don't know :) I think AMD might become a good alternative to nvidia
[02:45] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: thanks
[02:45] <profoX`> AMD/ATI that is
[02:45] <toxop1asma> ahh. nothing is ever simple
[02:45] <profoX`> right now I'd say nvidia is still a better choice in most cases
[02:45] <profoX`> or intel if you don't need the fastest graphics
[02:46] <Rukus_> i always paired nvidia with amd haha. when i saw amd with ati, i was like.. well.. heeeelllll
[02:46] <toxop1asma> the problem with intel is that i don't need a very fast cpu, either. and a new mobo/cpu/memory would cost quite a bit
[02:46] <Rukus_> hell
[02:46] <Rukus_> haha
[02:47] <sMonk> doesn't look like much changed profoX
[02:47] <Rukus> profoX` : NOW... is that all i need to do? is there more to this instal;lation?
[02:48] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i finally got the .iso downloaded...and i can boot up from it...i installed it on my external...but i can't figure up how to boot the darned thing up...
[02:48] <profoX`> sMonk: no :( i'm not that good in fixing these things either, that was the only thing I could think of
[02:48] <doop> i have a 2 gig pen drive and it's formatted incorrectly.  how do i use fdisk to format it correctly
[02:48] <jombee> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions?
[02:49] <profoX`> Rukus: not really much more
[02:49] <Rukus_> so now i just play?
[02:49] <Rukus_> how do i enable it?
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> :S
[02:49] <jombee> doop just use mkfs.ext3
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> i think i might give up on linux altogether...
[02:49] <profoX`> Rukus: if the installation completed, try to run "compiz --replace" (in the terminal to start, so you can see what goes wrong if it doesn't work)
[02:49] <doop> jombee:  will that automatically do it?
[02:49] <sMonk> well, atleast you're tryin
[02:49] <jombee> well you need to add the device id, but yeah pretty much that's it
[02:49] <profoX`> and use compizconfig-settings-manager to configure compiz
[02:49] <Dry_Ice> does anyone know a mac nerd?
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> mac/linux nerd...
[02:50] <profoX`> i know one
[02:50] <Rukus_> command not found
[02:50] <profoX`> well, two, but one of them is not really a nerd and just messes things up
[02:50] <profoX`> :P
[02:50] <doop> jombee:  add the device id?
[02:50] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: I installed kubuntu to a powerbook, but that was with wiping the drive..
[02:50] <profoX`> Rukus_: compiz --replace doesn't work?
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> darn bazhang...
[02:50] <jombee> doop something like /dev/sda1
[02:50] <profoX`> Rukus_: theres a space between the z and the -
[02:50] <doop> oh no probs then
[02:50] <Rukus_> yah just saw that
[02:50] <Dry_Ice> maybe i should make mac teh external...
[02:50] <jombee> but you probably don't want to use sda1 unless you really want to kill your system
[02:51] <Rukus_> said xgl not found
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> and use the internal for linux
[02:51] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: boot camp
[02:51] <Rukus_> blacklisted pciid found
[02:51] <profoX`> Rukus_: oh butyou just installed xgl so you'll need to do an X restart
[02:51] <profoX`> since Xgl starts its own X server on top
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: no leopard :P
[02:51] <Rukus_> how do i do that
[02:51] <profoX`> thats how Xgl works (a bit messy :))
[02:51] <profoX`> Rukus_: the same as before.. close your open applications and ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i never got the beta...
[02:51] <Rukus_> oh
[02:51] <Rukus_> i did something else last  time
[02:51] <Rukus_> tahts why
[02:51] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: also available for tiger
[02:51] <Rukus_> ooops
[02:51] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: and now, all the downloads are gone, coz of leopard...
[02:52] <Rukus_> i hope order of installation doesnt matter
[02:52] <Rukus_> hehe
[02:52] <Rukus_> ok brb
[02:52] <profoX`> if ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work, then just try to type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart :p
[02:52] <sMonk> Hey profox...
[02:52] <profoX`> sMonk: yea?
[02:52] <doop> jombee:  i want the pen drive to have a format that windows can read too
[02:52] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: no boot camp for tiger anymore...
[02:52] <sMonk> I changed a boot flag on sda1 wrote to table and I got a diffrent output
[02:53] <sMonk> I'll post it.. see what you think
[02:53] <Rukus> ok
[02:53] <profoX`> sMonk: umm okay
[02:53] <Rukus> i lovew having 2 pc's
[02:53] <bazhang> hmm
[02:53] <Rukus> love*
[02:53] <jombee> doop: the command would be mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever
[02:53] <jombee> might have to look that up
[02:53] <doop> ah ok thx
[02:53] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43371/
[02:53] <jombee> I'm not 100% on the command to make it windows readable
[02:53] <Dry_Ice> i'm not buying another computer just for linux...
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> btw...how do you flag a disk/partition as bootable?
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: it looks healthier..
[02:54] <sMonk> yeah
[02:54] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: vmware fusion
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: can you try to mount that drive?
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> !vmware
[02:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:54] <sMonk> I try.. but I get an error.. I'll post that .. hold on
[02:54] <Dry_Ice> that's how bazhang?
[02:54] <jombee> Dry_Ice you have to use fdisk or disk druid or some kind of partion tool
[02:54] <profoX`> sMonk: okay
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> installing linux is WAYYY more than i thought
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> sure, i knew it was for nerds...
[02:55] <profoX`> Dry_Ice: it all depends on your hardware my friend
[02:55] <profoX`> :)
[02:55] <Rukus> profoX` ITS SLOW lol
[02:55] <Rukus> works tho
[02:55] <peterbecker> does anyone know how to record a stream of a V4L2 device?
[02:55] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43372/
[02:55] <bazhang> and your nerves :}
[02:55] <shinda> was wondering if anyone knew any alternative way to start the strigi dameon, right now when I go configure I get taken to the strigi konqueor page, and click start daemon but it doesn't seem to go anywhere so thought mayabe there was a cli method tried /etc/init.d/ but theres no strigi option
[02:55] <peterbecker> I have a UVC cam and it works in Ekiga, but it seems nowhere else
[02:55] <profoX`> Rukus: it's not supposed to work slow on radeon X200 :P
[02:55] <Dry_Ice> bazhang: i'm at my wits end...
[02:55] <Rukus> no?
[02:55] <peterbecker> xawtv dies on me with XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[02:56] <Rukus> its jittery
[02:56] <profoX`> peterbecker: thats probably because some cameras using the uvc driver only support v4l1 (or was it v4l2?) so only v4l1 (or v4l2?) applications can use the camera
[02:56] <bazhang> Dry_Ice: what's the rush?
[02:56] <profoX`> a bit stupid of course, but that's how it is
[02:56] <peterbecker> AFAIK UVC implies V4L2 and Ekiga seems to agree
[02:56] <peterbecker> Camorama seems to be V4L1 only
[02:57] <profoX`> sMonk: not sure what that means, a bit cryptic that error
[02:57] <sMonk> ok
[02:57] <profoX`> sMonk: did you try sudo mkdir /media/test; sudo mount -t ntfs3g /dev/sda1 /media/test
[02:57] <sMonk> no I didn't
[02:57] <sMonk> hold on
[02:58] <profoX`> because the old terminal way will probably be a bit better for debugging purposes
[02:58] <Dry_Ice_> whoops...
[02:58] <sMonk> this sis what I get...   mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs3g'
[02:58] <Dry_Ice_> if someone said anything to me while i got disconnected, would they mind repeating it?
[02:58] <profoX`> sMonk: wait, are you running Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:59] <sMonk> yeah
[02:59] <profoX`> well, thats strange
[02:59] <profoX`> ntfs3g should be integrated into gutsy
[02:59] <Dry_Ice_> maybe i should ask sean...
[02:59] <sMonk> How do I check again.. just to make sure?
[03:00] <profoX`> hah
[03:00] <profoX`> I have that error too if I try it that way
[03:00] <profoX`> sMonk: okay, just use ntfs instead of ntfs3g
[03:00] <Dry_Ice_> curses...
[03:00] <profoX`> i think it's a name change :)
[03:01] <profoX`> the ntfs3g driver has been integrated and is just referred to as 'ntfs' to keep it simple
[03:01] <sMonk> How do I check my version again.. just to make sure?
[03:01] <profoX`> sMonk: version of ?
[03:01] <profoX`> ubutu?
[03:01] <bazhang> Dry_Ice_: want to join #kubuntu-offtopic?
[03:01] <profoX`> kubuntu*
[03:01] <sMonk> kubuntu
[03:01] <Dry_Ice_> bazhang: if i put linux on my main internal drive, and power up the computer...will it boot up to linux automatically?
[03:01] <profoX`> sMonk: rightclick the K icon, help - about kubuntu or something
[03:01] <profoX`> there's also a command :)
[03:02] <profoX`> try lsb_release -a
[03:02] <Rukus> ok i am not sure if this is working or not
[03:02] <sMonk> ok, the drive mounted
[03:02] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: probably
[03:03] <profoX`> sMonk: hmm, can you access the files?
[03:03] <profoX`> sMonk: try something like "konqueror /media/test" to check if you can browse (see) the files on the drive
[03:03] <profoX`> (or do a quick: ls /media/test)
[03:04] <sMonk> Yeah, I can see them and access them
[03:04] <profoX`> sMonk: then atleast you'll be able to backup some stuff, but if you're lucky windows should be able to boot too
[03:04] <Dry_Ice_> profoX`:  u sure bout the linux on internal thing?
[03:05] <ero> hi :)
[03:05] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: well it depends on the hardware, but in most cases and if no special RAID configuration is used it should work
[03:05] <profoX`> Dry_Ice_: i have no experience with installation on macs though, so I don't know how that goes
[03:05] <sMonk> well, I can try, only problem being that there is no boot sector on that hd... and for some reason the vista dvd wont recignize the linux partition.
[03:05] <ero> i just installed kubuntu 64bit edition and hope to replace xp for good :)
[03:06] <ero> any professional blender users here?
[03:06] <profoX`> sMonk: do you boot from the MBR on the linux drive?
[03:06] <sMonk> yeah
[03:06] <profoX`> sMonk: and so grub gets loaded.. grub should be able to load vista, right?
[03:07] <sMonk> yeah.. but I don't know how to re-write grub too well
[03:07] <profoX`> ahh..
[03:07] <juan> does anyone know where to get konference or which messenger programme allows voice chat?
[03:07] <sMonk> I have SOME code.. but i'm a bit rusty
[03:08] <sMonk> I haven't used linux "constantly" for about 7yrs now
[03:08] <profoX`> sMonk: well, I'm not sure how to handle 2 different drives, but I have some ideas..
[03:08] <sMonk> I have been trapped by the Mega Dick corp MS
[03:08] <profoX`> but maybe you can make grub detect it
[03:08] <profoX`> by itself
[03:08] <sMonk> Sound good
[03:08] <profoX`> sMonk: hehe, microsoft is not all that bad
[03:08] <sMonk> I'm up for ideas and or suggestions
[03:09] <profoX`> their company policy is bad, their technology is a bit bloated, but all in all, they do have some good products
[03:09] <profoX`> personally i kinda miss microsoft office ;)
[03:09] <profoX`> openoffice.org doesn't cut it for me, although it's getting better
[03:09] <sMonk> lol, the onlything that's good in MS is the coders and programmers that linux could use.. lol
[03:09] <profoX`> nyea well.. :P
[03:09] <sMonk> :)
[03:10] <profoX`> so let me google for a sec
[03:10] <sMonk> well, how do I get grub to try to auto detect again.. I'm lookin too
[03:10] <AngryElf> isn't there a package I can remove that will remove KDE/Desktop and basically revert back to a "server" install?
[03:11] <Rukus> ok profoX` computer is now sluggish and i dont even know if the effects are wroking
[03:11] <profoX`> sMonk: yea i'm not sure if that's possible
[03:11] <toxop1asma> profoX`: you mentioned openarena. does anyone play q3a these days? there is never anything good in the public server list
[03:11] <profoX`> Rukus: oh, you don't see a shadow beneath your windows?
[03:11] <profoX`> toxop1asma: a friend and I play sometimes, but thats maybe a few times a month
[03:11] <leileilol> people play q3 and oa
[03:11] <morphinex> hey folks, I have this crazy problem: when I do ifup eth0 the screen on my laptop goes blank for a moment
[03:11] <Rukus> no
[03:12] <toxop1asma> profoX`: same here. that's probably how everyone does it
[03:12] <sMonk> profoX` no?
[03:12] <morphinex> also, possibly related, knetworkmanager doesn't do anything on my machine
[03:12] <Dry_Ice_> !vmware
[03:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:13] <profoX`> sMonk: what no?
[03:14] <sMonk> Grub can't auto detect?
[03:14] <profoX`> oh I'm not sure
[03:14] <profoX`> :P
[03:14] <Tm_T> grub cant itsel
[03:14] <Tm_T> f
[03:14] <Rukus> profoX` i dont see anytrhing noticeably special
[03:14] <Rukus> anything*
[03:14] <profoX`> Tm_T: yea but there are tools for it
[03:14] <Tm_T> profoX`: and thats different
[03:15] <profoX`> Rukus: hmmm... you're probably best off removing xserver-xgl for now and continuing like normal
[03:15] <Rukus> yeah, and i noticied the k-menu got slower
[03:15] <Rukus> thats all
[03:15] <profoX`> Rukus: it's a bit hard to debug your problem
[03:15] <profoX`> from this distance
[03:15] <Rukus> come closer
[03:15] <profoX`> well
[03:15] <profoX`> if you live near belgium feel free to visit
[03:15] <profoX`> ;)
[03:16] <Rukus> lol canada
[03:16] <profoX`> ahh close enough
[03:16] <profoX`> :P
[03:16] <toxop1asma> profoX`: let me guess. you're Flemish?
[03:17] <Rukus> my god
[03:17] <Rukus> computer is running sooo sluggish
[03:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: yes
[03:17] <Rukus> takes forever to do anything
[03:17] <sMonk> Ok, if someone can help me out.. I am trying to get Vista to boot using GRUB.. this is what I have in my Menu.lst   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43375/    I have vist on /dev/sda1 and linux on /dev/hda
[03:17] <profoX`> toxop1asma: how'd you guess
[03:18] <sMonk> any ideas on a fix?
[03:18] <toxop1asma> profoX`: i hear the Flemish are pretty quick, and speak good english :)
[03:18] <profoX`> haha
[03:18] <profoX`> that's us
[03:18] <profoX`> :P
[03:18] <profoX`> lol
[03:18] <profoX`> where did you hear that?
[03:19] <profoX`> from some flemish guy
[03:19] <profoX`> ;)
[03:19] <toxop1asma> maybe--but i no longer remember that
[03:19] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[03:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:20] <Rukus> hwo do i uninstall xserver-xgl from terminal
[03:20] <sMonk> does anyone here know GRUB well?
[03:20] <Tm_T> !apt-get | Rukus
[03:20] <ubotu> Rukus: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:20] <Tm_T> !grub | sMonk
[03:20] <ubotu> sMonk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:21] <profoX`> sMonk: maybe try add these to menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43376/plain/
[03:21] <profoX`> sMonk: and reboot and see if one of em works :P
[03:21] <sMonk> Tm_T quite the oppisite.. I'm trying to get Vista back after installing Kubuntu
[03:21] <profoX`> Rukus: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[03:21] <profoX`> oh
[03:21] <profoX`> remove the savedefault
[03:21] <profoX`> and makeactives
[03:21] <profoX`> :P
[03:22] <profoX`> only one entry can have that
[03:22] <sMonk> ok
[03:22] <Rukus> ok gotta go
[03:22] <Rukus> thanks!
[03:23] <Dry_Ice_> bye :)
[03:23] <sMonk> profoX` do I leave in ANY of the save and make?
[03:23] <profoX`> later Rukus, maybe we can fix it some other time
[03:23] <Rukus> yah
[03:23] <profoX`> sMonk: wait
[03:23] <Rukus> wait
[03:23] <Rukus> remove savedefualts?
[03:23] <sMonk> ok
[03:23] <Rukus> maekactive?
[03:23] <Rukus> was that for me
[03:23] <profoX`> no
[03:23] <profoX`> sMonk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43379/plain/ just try it like that then
[03:24] <Rukus> opk cya
[03:24] <Rukus> :)
[03:24] <profoX`> makeactive/savedefault just lets grub know which entry to start up by default, its not really necessary, not for testing anyway
[03:24] <profoX`> later Rukus
[03:24] <sMonk> ok... wish me luck
[03:24] <sMonk> thanks ProfoX`
[03:24] <profoX`> well good luck
[03:27] <sMonk> OK
[03:27] <sMonk> not good
[03:27] <sMonk> lol
[03:28] <sMonk> Both try 1 and 3 give me an error 13.... try 2 and 4 give me Booting...    Bootmgr is missing press ctr+alt+del
[03:30] <profoX`> ah
[03:30] <sMonk> so now i'm back to the beginning
[03:31] <profoX`> at least your partition table is more healthy already
[03:32] <profoX`> so you should be able to mount the drive fine in linux and backup data for one.. but fixing it to boot will probably also work
[03:32] <profoX`> but I have no vista install to do some tests
[03:32] <sMonk> lol, sure ya do... me lol
[03:32] <Dry_Ice_> !wpa
[03:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:33] <ToddEDM> could someone hlp me with K3b... how do i ake a DVD that i can watch on my TV.....the video file i have is .mkv
[03:33] <bazhang> ToddEDM: vlc should play it
[03:34] <sMonk> how can I set up that drive to auto mount to /media/vista?
[03:34] <bazhang> oo make--avidemux?
[03:34] <profoX`> sMonk: i think you can edit /etc/fstab for that, but maybe stuff like that should be easier in recent ubuntu versions
[03:35] <ToddEDM> bazhang: i dont want to play it , i want to burn it to DVD
[03:35] <sMonk> I thought I had the latest
[03:35] <morphinex> sMonk: I think there is an ntfs configuration tool
[03:35] <bazhang> right avidemux
[03:35] <morphinex> sMonk: I believe its name is... ntfs configuration tool ;)
[03:36] <sMonk> LOL
[03:36] <sMonk> damn, slow down.. I gotta copy this stuff
[03:36] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:36] <morphinex> ok
[03:36] <profoX`> sMonk: maybe try "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb"
[03:36] <_Angelus_> man
[03:36] <_Angelus_> somebody explains me why
[03:36] <_Angelus_> the embeded video player doesn work
[03:37] <_Angelus_> of konqueror
[03:37] <_Angelus_> when i try to play mms://
[03:37] <sMonk> what will that do?
[03:37] <profoX`> sMonk: I think that will reinstall grub and place the MBR on /dev/sdb (where it should be now) and hopefully adds the right entry for vista itself
[03:37] <sMonk> Oh
[03:37] <sMonk> ok\
[03:37] <morphinex> sMonk: here is how you can launch it: type kdesu ntfs-config
[03:37] <morphinex> sMonk: type that in the console
[03:37] <sMonk> any way I can check to see what it may have done or not done?
[03:38] <profoX`> sMonk: it should have changed the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <profoX`> and it should have reinstalled itself in the MBR, hopefully not causing problems :)
[03:39] <sMonk> ok
[03:39] <profoX`> sMonk: I gotta go though, so.. if you're going to test this real quick, i'll wait a while
[03:39] <pramod> cd.. is not working in my konsole
[03:39] <pramod> help me quick pleaseee....
[03:39] <sMonk> ok here is what I got   /dev/sdb: Not found or not a block device.
[03:39] <profoX`> pramod: which error? and there should be a space between cd and the dots "cd .."
[03:39] <pramod> it tells me command not found...
[03:40] <pramod> really??
[03:40] <pramod> okie
[03:40] <pramod> thanxxx
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: umm? waht was sudo fdisk -l again?
[03:40] <pramod> yeah i got it...
[03:40] <pramod> i did not use the space lol
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: oh it hsoul dbe hdb
[03:40] <profoX`> sMonk: hdb instead of sdb
[03:40] <sMonk> ok
[03:41] <sMonk> what is that copy / paste link again?
[03:41] <profoX`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:42] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43381/
[03:42] <pramod> how do i execute a compiled cpp file in konsole???
[03:42] <profoX`> pramod: ./binary-file
[03:42] <profoX`> pramod: or what do you mean
[03:42] <pramod> okie thanx again bro
[03:42] <pramod> yeah i think that's it...
[03:43] <profoX`> no problem
[03:43] <sMonk> ok pro
[03:43] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43381/
[03:43] <sMonk> that's what I get
[03:43] <profoX`> sMonk: can you check /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:44] <sMonk> my menu.lst looks no diffrent
[03:44] <profoX`> ah crap
[03:44] <sMonk> lol.. that's my thought exactly
[03:45] <morphinex> oh, the many joys of grub
[03:45] <sMonk> but if vista's MBR is gone.. due to kubuntu... is this writing it so it will try to work.. or am I missing something
[03:45] <bazhang> doubt its kubuntu's fault
[03:46] <sMonk> lol... ok possible user oversight?
[03:46] <profoX`> sMonk: MBR just tells which boot stuff to run, it points to GRUB now and GRUB should be able to load the vista bootloader like that if i'm not mistaken
[03:46] <bazhang> vista defective by design :}
[03:47] <sMonk> OK.. that's what I thought.. but I wasn't sure ... I've been hearing that vista does some really dumb stuff
[03:47] <morphinex> grub is sucky by design, I have spent many nights fighting with it
[03:47] <Query_If_Needed> if i wipe the drive, and install kubuntu...i don't need grub, do i?
[03:47] <morphinex> until I finally submitted to its twisted logic
[03:47] <profoX`> sMonk: yea i'm not sure about vista, i only know what i read from google about that
[03:47] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:48] <sMonk> if vista is on the SATA drive... should I not be writing the boot record sda0 not hda0???
[03:48] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:48] <profoX`> Query_If_Needed: well, you do need a bootloader, even if it just loads 1 operating system
[03:48] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:48] <Query_If_Needed> profoX`: so, i do need grub then?
[03:48] <sMonk> or is it still hda?
[03:48] <profoX`> Query_If_Needed: yea, but Kubuntu installs that automatically
[03:49] <profoX`> sMonk: which boot record?
[03:49] <Query_If_Needed> kk
[03:49] <Query_If_Needed> thankx
[03:49] <sMonk> ok,
[03:49] <profoX`> sMonk: GRUB always refers to drives with hd
[03:49] <profoX`> no matter if it's ide or sata
[03:50] <profoX`> sMonk: "sudo update-grub" probably doesn't help you either?
[03:50] <sMonk> I'll try
[03:50] <profoX`> it probably only detects the linux partition
[03:50] <Query_If_Needed> !windows
[03:50] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:50] <morphinex> doesn't vista demand to be on the first partition of the first disk or something?
[03:50] <profoX`> sMonk: anyway, it is very late here, so i'm going to go to bed now.. too bad we couldn't fix it right now
[03:50] <_Angelus_> lol!!!!!!! @ mental institute
[03:50] <_Angelus_> haha
[03:51] <profoX`> but well.. i'm pretty sure it can be fixed one way or the other
[03:51] <profoX`> i'll talk to you some other time though
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:51] <profoX`> i really gotta go :p
[03:51] <profoX`> i have to sleep and get up in 3 hours
[03:51] <profoX`> later
[03:51] <sMonk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43382/ that is what I get
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> kk
[03:51] <Query_If_Needed> l8er
[03:52] <sMonk> yeah, I know your pain.. so I do I.. *uhh* stupid vista
[03:52] <profoX`> sMonk: nope, i dont think it finds vista like that..
[03:52] <Query_If_Needed> !vista
[03:52] <profoX`> well, tomorrow i might be able to think of some other stuff
[03:52] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[03:52] <profoX`> right now i need my bed
[03:52] <profoX`> sory
[03:52] <profoX`> sorry*
[03:52] <Query_If_Needed> i live near redmond :D
[03:52] <profoX`> bye
[03:52] <sMonk> no prob.. thanks any way.. later
[03:52]  * profoX` is away
[03:53] <MagicCow> Wow, Kubuntu > PCLOS
[03:53] <Query_If_Needed> lol
[03:53] <bazhang> indeed
[03:53] <MagicCow> I was NOT happy with that experience.
[03:53] <Query_If_Needed> :D
[03:55] <underdog5004> pclos is too long to say easily, imho
[04:02] <MagicCow> The whole thing is a sham.
[04:02] <MagicCow> The install process.. well, when trying to run the livecd, my computer would just restart.
[04:03] <MagicCow> It was ridiculous for me.. I guess some people had an easier time.
[04:04] <bazhang> it works for some
[04:04] <MagicCow> Ae.
[04:04] <MagicCow> aye.
[04:04] <bazhang> but Kubuntu is the superior system--no doubt
[04:04] <_Angelus_> kubuntu pwnz j00
[04:05] <bazhang> and a much nicer community
[04:05] <MagicCow> I'm glad I tried PCLOS, I feel now that I have a kinship with Kubuntu.
[04:05] <bazhang> but this is way #offtopic
[04:05] <MagicCow> It's the place I come back to.
[04:05] <MagicCow> Aye.
[04:05] <underdog5004> it's good to try a bunch of distros, for sure.
[04:05] <bazhang> yeah
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> We all Know that PuppyLinux rules all. :)
[04:06] <bazhang> !ot | everyone
[04:06] <ubotu> everyone: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:06] <bazhang> :}
[04:07] <|dthacker|> I always get here after the cops break up the party
[04:07] <bazhang> Dr_Willis: but only the 2.4 kernel.. :}
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Thats all i need on my Little bitty old box in the basement. :)
[04:07] <bazhang> haha
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> I got it installed to a USB thumb drive thang also. :) handy for rescueing pc's
[04:08] <bazhang> nice
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> Sadly most of the 'real' work i do with Linux.. is saving XP's backside.....
[04:08] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:08] <Query_If_Needed> oh...
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> Made some $$ rescueing 'pictures' off  other peoples pc's :)
[04:09] <Query_If_Needed> lol
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> just $20 - but it paied for the pizza for that night! :)
[04:10] <rakan> hi. i used to have fat32 drive that i converted to ntfs after installing kubuntu> i noticed that it is automatically mounted. is there a way to add the mount command to start up?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> the fstab defines what gets mounted at boot up
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> You can easially add an entry in there :)
[04:11] <rakan> is that a console command or gui?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> BUT you made a typo i think.. you mean to say its NOT automaticially mounted.  correct?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[04:11] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:11] <juan> does anyone know where kubuntu places the kdmthemes?
[04:11] <nonewmsgs> dr_willis you're here giving good advice 24/7?
[04:11] <rakan> yea not auto
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> nonewmsgs it seems like it. :)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> 25/7 today.. the times changed
[04:11] <nonewmsgs> well as one of the people you've helped, thank you :)
[04:11] <bazhang> how was your drive Dr_Willis?
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> nonewmsgs  - and given the # of peopl;e ive just made mad... heh heh
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> bazhang my back is killing me.. but the van at least has NICE seats...
[04:12] <bazhang> :}
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> I will say that I do like the RIde of my Chrysler Minivan.. everyond go buy one.! or a dodge van. :)
[04:12]  * Dr_Willis dosent mention that he works for Chrysler.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Actually I got a Friends and Faimly Discount also If anyone wants one.. Heh heh.
[04:13] <bazhang> but does it run linux
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> The new Multi-Media thang in the high end vehicles..  - Not sure what OS it runs...
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> 20gb hd can do video/music/so forth.
[04:14] <bazhang> wow
[04:14] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Its a $1000 option I think - So WOW is right..
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> I aint buying it. heh.
[04:15] <Query_If_Needed> wow...
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Those car-pc's things are neat. Saw some on a web site the other day.. some were running Ubuntu.
[04:15] <pramod> how do i use the script command in konsole...
[04:15] <pramod> ?
[04:16] <pramod> i want to compile a file in cpp and output the compile esults to a file...
[04:16] <pramod> i want to compile a file in cpp and output the compile results to a file...
[04:16] <hydrogen> g++ file.cpp -o programname
[04:16] <rakan> in fstab there is something called uid that the page u gave me doesnt say anything about
[04:16] <hydrogen> user id
[04:17] <hydrogen> its the numeric representation of the user
[04:17] <rakan> its a hash :S
[04:17] <pramod> well this part i know it...
[04:17] <pramod> but the output itself?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> uid is not always needed. theres several ways to mount/set the options for a vfat filesystem
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> do you just hafve the 1 user on the system? want any others to access the windows drive?
[04:18] <pramod> that is everything that is output in the screen with the compilation errors and all i want to record it in a file...
[04:18] <rakan> i copied the uid for the C drive ntfs and made the D use the same UID
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> rakan you aibnt confusing the UUID with the 'UID' are you?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> For example, if you want everybody to be able to read, write, and execute every file in your /mnt/c, you should specify the mask 0000:
[04:19] <Dr_Willis>    /dev/hda1   /mnt/vfat   vfat   umask=0000    0 0
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> you can go about all this - several different ways
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> the umask way - lets EVERy user have access
[04:20] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs ntfs uid=1000,gid=100 0 0
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> lets the user whos uid is 1000 - have full acccess. thats it.
[04:24] <Johno> How do I go about setting up a dial up connection on kubuntu?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I got no idea on that one Johno.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I aint used dialup in years! :0
[04:27] <Johno> lol
[04:28] <Johno> well that sucks
[04:28] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm looking for a wireless scanner for kde
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> to scan wireless networks you mean? :)
[04:30] <Eeyore-Jr> Dr_Willis: yes
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> !find wireless
[04:30] <ubotu> Found: wireless-tools, gkrellmwireless, kwirelessmonitor
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> check the package manager tool for scanner - theres a few in there. I just dont rember their names
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> !find scanner
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: btscanner, libtk-objscanner-perl, mailscanner, swscanner
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !find scan
[04:37] <ubotu> Found: exim4-daemon-heavy, exim4-daemon-light, libkscan-dev, libkscan1, libruby1.8 (and 42 others)
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> wait
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !find wire
[04:37] <ubotu> Found: wireless-tools, gkrellmwireless, kwirelessmonitor, tripwire, wireshark (and 2 others)
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !info wireshark
[04:37] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6rel-3 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> aww...  thought that might have been it
[04:38] <Eeyore-Jr> kismit
[04:56] <lespea> Eeyore-Jr: kismet
[04:56] <jagcorvair> !adept
[04:56] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:57] <lespea> Eeyore-Jr: also, airmon-ng
[05:03] <SteamMachine> Hello.
[05:03] <SteamMachine> Whenever I put a DVD into the drive, K3B thinks it is a CD. Is this a known issue?
[05:11] <Merritt> Hi guys. Having an odd problem here: Went into "Manual Configuration" for Knetworkmanager, to try and set my ip as static instead of DHCP. Not it won't seem to use either my wireless card or my Ethernet, it won't detect wireless networks and will not connect in any fashion. I ditched the static IP idea, put it back on DHCP, but it is still as if the nics are not loading at all. Any ideas? Had to boot into windows just to get on here.
[05:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Merritt: in linux, sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:14] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:14] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: whoops
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> remove the information pertaining to the network devices you want handled by knetworkmanager
[05:14] <Daisuke_Ido> (eth0 and whatever your wireless is)
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> leave lo in there
[05:16] <Merritt> Daisuke_Ido: That's all? What does this do? :)
[05:17] <jared> hii how do i make ndiswrapper work in gutsy?
[05:18] <vincent_> xdpyinfo | grep resolution reports 99x98 dpi but xrdb -query | grep dpi I get 96. which one is true?
[05:20] <Merritt> Okay, I'ma go try removing that info from interfaces. Hopefully I'll come back in from linux.
[05:25] <leon> wich is the kubuntu es chanel?
[05:25] <Dry_Ice_> !es
[05:25] <_Rukus> anyone know how to make ndiswrapper work?
[05:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:25] <Merritt> Okay, it worked. Removed the lines, saved, exited. Wireless connected in 0.4 seconds. Hah. Don't bloody know WHY, but... thank you :)
[05:25] <Dry_Ice_> yay!
[05:25] <Dry_Ice_> congrats merritt and Daisuke_Ido :D
[05:26] <Merritt> lol
[05:26] <Merritt> You know I spent like 5 hours trying to enable, disable, configure and etc everything? And all it was was two lines in a text file... sometimes that drives me nuts. It can be so bloody easy to fix things in Linux, but only if you know how.... :P
[05:26] <Dry_Ice_> wow...
[05:27] <_Rukus> ugh
[05:27] <_Rukus> why dont things work for me
[05:27] <Merritt> Gremlins. Gremlins are always the reason!
[05:28] <_Rukus> lol
[05:29] <Merritt> Ah well. Linux is behaving again.. for now
[05:29] <Merritt> ;)
[05:29] <Dry_Ice_> lol
[05:30]  * Merritt needs to pick up a good linux book.
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> well, you couldve come here and asked :P
[05:30]  * Merritt has one from 8 years ago.. >_>
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> which you did...after hours of junk...
[05:30] <Merritt> Yeah, but that meant booting into Windows, now didn't it?
[05:30] <Dry_Ice_> lol
[05:30] <Merritt> I feel ugly and sullied, like a coat of oil on my skin that won't come off! A taint on the soul!
[05:31] <Dry_Ice_> hrmm
[05:32] <_Rukus> anyone with ndiswerapper answers?
[05:32] <_Rukus> -e
[05:33] <positrix> What's the installer like now? does it still make one huge partition by default, or does it split it sensibly?
[05:33] <Dry_Ice_> it depends
[05:34] <Dry_Ice_> you can config it...
[05:35] <positrix> I was asking about the default
[05:37] <coreymon77> goodnight everyone
[05:38] <positrix> nightnight
[05:39] <_Rukus> ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/buildt:(
[05:39] <_Rukus> err
[05:39] <_Rukus> :(
[05:40] <rgreening> ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build with no t
[05:48] <posingaspopular> is there anyway I could katapult to a document, ie. 'thispaperisawesome.odt'?
[05:49] <positrix> it should be pretty easy
[05:49] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yes, but you have to enter the exact path to the doc, starting from $HOME
[05:49] <Dry_Ice_> is there any way to convince my dad that kubuntu is totally awesome?
[05:50] <Jucato> posingaspopular: for example, if foo.odt is in /home/username/docs/mydocs, then Alt+F2, docs/mydocs/'foo.odt
[05:50] <positrix> if you use the Document Catalog plugin for katapult, that should work
[05:50] <positrix> there's also the option of using something like strigi
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Dry_Ice_: livecd
[05:53] <posingaspopular> yea it's in /home/username/documents/name.fileextension
[05:53] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: Compiz.
[05:53] <posingaspopular> oh wait... i see
[05:53] <posingaspopular> awesome
[05:53] <posingaspopular> thanks Jucato
[05:53] <posingaspopular> did you read this week's UWN?
[05:53] <Jucato> you're welcome :)
[05:54] <Jucato> hm. not yet
[05:54] <posingaspopular> my project is in there for Ubuntu-Illinois Codesprint
[05:54] <posingaspopular> in other words: gogogogog
[05:54] <Dry_Ice_> hmm
[05:54] <Jucato> posingaspopular: nice :)
[05:55] <Jucato> good luck with that! (next year?)
[05:55] <Dry_Ice_> he said no...
[05:55] <Dry_Ice_> in such a way that i can't say but dad...
[05:55] <posingaspopular> yes sir. so if you want to, you know... fly over for that event, you're welcome to
[05:56] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: show him kubuntu running on your computer?
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> yep...
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> he says its slow
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> he doesn't want anything changed
[05:56] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: What's he using at the moment?
[05:56] <Dry_Ice_> xp :S
[05:57] <ardchoille> When you change file associations, where is the info kept?
[05:57] <ardchoille> Which file/folder?
[05:57] <Dry_Ice_> why is my dad being so stubborn?
[05:57] <Dry_Ice_> its not like anyone uses that computer :S
[05:59] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: turn off all the spyware/virus countermeasures you have in place. wait for the computer to slow to a crawl. then say "look dad! XP is really slow! Kubuntu is faster!"
[05:59] <Dry_Ice_> he doesn't use that computer...
[06:00] <Dry_Ice_> didn't i already say that???
[06:01] <ardchoille> Dry_Ice_: Does he use that computer?
[06:01]  * ardchoille ducks
[06:02] <Dry_Ice_>  /kick ardchoille
[06:02] <Dry_Ice_> :D
[06:02] <ardchoille> hehe
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> i actually don't use kubuntu :P
[06:03] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: If you can't convince him that kubuntu is good, try convincing him that XP is a load of rubbish.
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> he wants all his files
[06:03] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: What do you use?
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> os x
[06:03] <Dry_Ice_> :D
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> linux > os x > windows
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> os x doesn't like kubuntu
[06:04] <positrix> Dry_Ice_: Hm. I'd be careful about statements like that.
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> tiz true...
[06:04] <Dry_Ice_> imo, of course :S
[06:05] <vincent_> If i put 'autohint' in fonts.conf together with the existing setting does the autohint still apply? another thing, subpixel hinting full or medium is the best for you? pls reply i'm new to ubuntu
[06:06] <positrix> OSX is a fork of FreeBSD. FreeBSD is based on BSD Unix.
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> Mac OS X 10.4.10
[06:06] <positrix> Linux is based off an "I'm going to learn to write a kernel" personal project
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> <.<
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> >.>
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> ¬.¬
[06:06] <Dry_Ice_> >.<
[06:07] <Dry_Ice_> minus well shut the kubuntu computer down...
[06:07] <Jucato> Dry_Ice_: please stop that
[06:07] <Dry_Ice_> as he's on the computer he uses :P
[06:08] <Dry_Ice_> Jucato: sorry
[06:09] <positrix> OSX has a much better heritage than linux. lack of GPL makes it suck though.
[06:09] <viktor_> anyone know the apt get command for firefox
[06:09] <Merritt_> apt-get... firefox? :)
[06:09] <ardchoille> viktor_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:09] <viktor_> thank you so much
[06:10] <Dry_Ice_> positrix: huh?
[06:10] <viktor_> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate error plz help
[06:10] <viktor_> i thought my origninal commmand was wrong but this prooves its not
[06:10] <ardchoille> !info firefox
[06:10] <Dry_Ice_> !firefox
[06:11] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.8+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[06:11] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:11] <viktor_> same error
[06:11] <ardchoille> viktor_: Maybe a problem with your sources.list
[06:11] <viktor_> how do i fix the source list
[06:11] <ardchoille> viktor_: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:11] <ardchoille> !paste
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <viktor_> dunno how to
[06:13] <ardchoille> viktor_: open /etc/apt/sources.list in kate, copy the content and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url
[06:14] <viktor_> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[06:14] <ardchoille> viktor_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <viktor_> ok got a hole table here wat em i lookin for
[06:16] <ardchoille> copy the whole thing and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:17] <viktor_> ok no worries
[06:18] <viktor_> couldnt paste gave me error for spamin
[06:18] <viktor_> how can i remove linux from the partition
[06:19] <viktor_> and get rid of the grub loader
[06:20] <positrix> microsoft fdisk -r
[06:20] <positrix> will remove grub
[06:20] <positrix> but I don't see why you'd want to
[06:25] <alexander> hello
[06:25] <Dry_Ice_> hello
[06:26] <alexander> you know i donot remember server - only its name how 2 find it ?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what?
[06:26] <alexander> irc i mean
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what do you remember?
[06:27] <alexander> host
[06:27] <alexander> do not
[06:27] <alexander> read carefuly
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> google?
[06:27] <alexander> more carefuly
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm reading carefully
[06:27] <alexander> no
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> you either need to organize your thoughts more coherently so people can understand you, or go google it.
[06:28] <alexander> my dog reads better
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you don't remember anything about it, how are we supposed to help you?
[06:28] <positrix> alexander: is english your first language?
[06:28] <alexander> no sir
[06:28] <alexander> whats up ?
[06:29] <alexander> you dont like my english ?
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ESL or no, insulting people is no way to get what you want
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> you may have better luck in a channel that focuses on your native language
[06:29] <rakan> Where does wine add it's directory if u install it using adept package manager?
[06:29] <alexander> where ?
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't tell you if i don't know what your native language is...
[06:30] <positrix> rakan: ~/.wine for your config files
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> rakan: /home/username/.wine
[06:30] <alexander> i don't know
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> alexander: you don't know what language you speak?
[06:30] <alexander> yes
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> yes you know or yes you don't know
[06:31] <positrix> apparently removing and upgrading are the same things... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43391/
[06:31] <alexander> russian
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[06:31] <alexander> tajik
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that does explain a lot
[06:31] <alexander> turkish
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !ru | alexander
[06:31] <alexander> germanese
[06:31] <ubotu> alexander: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:31] <alexander> thankz
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[06:32] <alexander> but not ubuntu i want kubuntu
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are they can help with both
[06:33] <Daisuke_Ido> they're the same thing underneath the desktop
[06:33] <positrix> ubuntu will do. You won't need kubuntu specifically unless it's purely a kde thing.
[06:33] <alexander> i know
[06:33] <alexander> ubuntu uses Gnome
[06:33] <alexander> i was using Slackwae for long period
[06:33] <alexander> *slackware
[06:34] <alexander> so kubuntu is new distr for me
[06:34] <alexander> :)
[06:34] <rakan> What application would you recommend me using if i wanted to listen to media streams
[06:36] <positrix> rakan: Kaffeine or mplayer
[06:36] <rakan> i did download mms:// protocol libraries but kaffeine doesnt open the stream
[06:37] <jHoNDoE> guys, I have a question
[06:37] <psycholic> im having problems connecting with my kubuntu cpu
[06:37] <jHoNDoE> can I upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 without problems?...on WUBI
[06:38] <positrix> possibly.
[06:38] <psycholic> i have tryed to reset the iptables
[06:39] <psycholic> i tryed to ping it but it won't work
[06:39] <psycholic> is there any other firewall i should check
[06:39] <positrix> jHoNDoE: text replace "feisty" with "gutsy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list, the sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <positrix> jHoNDoE: but you might be better off using a CD
[06:40] <positrix> jHoNDoE: It depends on how you have things organised.
[06:40] <ardchoille> positrix: That method of upgrading is not recommended
[06:40] <psycholic> might just reintall because the sound don't work ether
[06:41] <positrix> ardchoille: Why not?
[06:41] <jHoNDoE> positrix I'll try thanks
[06:41] <ardchoille> positrix: for one thing, that method won't get you any new apps that are in gutsy that weren't in feisty, it'll just upgrade what you already have.
[06:42] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[06:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:44] <jonathan> does anyone know why the webcam doesnt work in kopete?
[06:44] <j2^> Hm, trying to instakk 7.10 on a new box. I get hash error when it gets to the "install kernel" stage (regardless of which of the three i pick) i have tried both the normal and the alternate install CD. (Yes, the install images hashes clean agains the downlaod)
[06:46] <sd32> jonathan, have you tried asking in #kopete?
[06:49] <ardchoille> When you change file associations in kde, where is the info kept? I know it's somewhere in ~/.kde/* but I don't know which file/folder.
[06:50] <posingaspopular> anyone else having trouble with their computers shutting down after closing amarok in gutsy?
[06:50] <posingaspopular> it's a pain
[06:54] <tuxwulf> Posing > Actually I have a general shutdown problem with kubuntu on my desktop... If anyone can give me some hints where to look, I'd be very grateful...
[06:56] <posingaspopular> tuxwulf: ah yes i remember you talking about this before
[06:56] <posingaspopular> im not sure which scripts handle the shutdown, but for some reason they execute after I try to close amarok
[06:56] <rakan> MPlayer and kaffeine are not opening mms:// url. Any idea why?
[06:58] <sd32> rakan, have you tried asking in #Mplayer ?
[06:58] <tuxwulf> It gets as far as the screen going black and then ... stuck... So I hit the reset button ....
[07:01] <Dry_Ice_> night
[07:02] <rakan> sd32: yes they are sleeping
[07:03] <sd32> rakan, yeah ive noticed that in other channels also, it might have to do with the time
[07:04] <rakan> sd32: if u have got any idea please provide me with it
[07:04] <sd32> rakan,sorry not that advanced yet
[07:05] <rakan> sd32: same here
[07:05] <sd32> rakan have you downloaded the restricted extras yet?
[07:06] <rakan> yea i installed both kaffeine and mplayer plugins for mms and xmms
[07:10] <positrix> ~/.kde/share/config   <-- My new favorite directory.
[07:11] <sd32> rakan,have you looked in here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[07:11] <ardchoille> positrix: Mine too
[07:12] <Kr4t05> For some reason, video playback is broken.
[07:12] <Kr4t05> Kaffience, VLC, mplayer, everything.
[07:13] <Kr4t05> It will play the video for a few seconds, then it goes all green and blocky
[07:14] <MagicCow> tuxwulf: I had that problem, a reinstall fixed. Never figured it out.
[07:18] <tuxwulf> MagicCow > .. I see... Do you happen to know where there is a shutdown log..? I mean, dmesg logs startup, sort of, is there sth similar for shutdown ... that you know?
[07:22] <tuxwulf> ...or anyone ...?
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> look in /var/log
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe something
[07:25] <tuxwulf> ....Ok, check... thanks!
[07:26] <tuxwulf> In the mean time... Doesanyone know how to prevent Kubuntu from starting the desktop?
[07:26] <tuxwulf> I used to do that in inittab
[07:26] <tuxwulf> but that does nto work any more
[07:28] <sd32> just boot into recovery mode everytime
[07:33] <tuxwulf> eh
[07:33] <sd32> at the grub menu press escape and chose recovery modr
[07:34] <sd32> *mode
[07:34] <tuxwulf> Oh, there.....Ok... I wil try that to see if it is the desktop that is giving me this shutdown grief... Thanks!
[07:34] <sd32> np
[07:34] <MagicCow> I am still a linux newb, so no. THe only info I had, is it stopped at "System Will Halt" or something very similiar.
[07:34] <MagicCow> That would stay up until I powered down with the power button.
[07:50] <tuxwulf> Does gkrellm work on kubuntu ...?
[07:53] <furio84> I never tried it but i think it will work. But if you want a system monitor maybe you wil find some superkaramba applets more intresting
[07:55] <tuxwulf> ..I'll look into that, thanks... SuperKaramba
[08:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> my screensaver activates, about 1/2 hour later, I try to use the computer and xorg is taking about 92% of processor and it never responds. I always end up killing the X server and restarting kdm.  What could be the problem?
[08:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> wow, it's very quiet here.
[08:06] <sd32> its late in the US
[08:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> I know. That is the problem with working over night.
[08:06] <sd32> lol
[08:06] <sd32> graveyard shift?
[08:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> yep.
[08:10] <furio84> I had the same problem yesterday... solutions???
[08:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> furio, what problems?
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:14] <furio84> the same as you... Coming back from screensaver takes a lot of resources... But after half an hour i managed to close applications and shutdown...
[08:14] <jastengel> Hello
[08:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have been trying to find an answer to this...
[08:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> what hardware do you have?
[08:16] <jastengel> I am kind of stuck. I am a novice linux user, and my Kubuntu box just did something "bad"
[08:17] <jastengel> when I loaded my package manager, and checked for updates... it told me to update to Feisty Fawn....
[08:17] <jastengel> it did its thing... and now it wont boot.
[08:17] <furio84> Acer Aspire 5100, amd turion 64x2, 1600Mhz, Ati Radeon xpress1100 with closed source drivers installed (but no compiz activated)...
[08:18] <furio84> ...even I was looking for an answer...
[08:20] <furio84> Maybe the problem is related to graphical hardware. I had a lot of problems with ati adapters...
[08:21] <jastengel> it goes through the grub screens.... then it goes to the kubuntu screen with the progress bar, which doesnt progress.... then it goes to a text prompt that says:
[08:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I think so, but I didn't see this problem with gentoo or Mepis when I had it installed a few months back.
[08:22] <furio84> Maybe you were using a different version of drivers, kernel and Xorg. And it's not a secret that kubuntu is very far from perfection. It seems like developers give much more attention to ubuntu, that works much better.
[08:24] <jastengel> busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash) enter help for a list of commands....
[08:24] <jastengel> can anybody help me? I am soo lost.
[08:26] <sd32> we wont know until you ask
[08:26] <furio84> Sorry jastengel, i wasn't talkin about your problem but mine. If you cannot boot i suggest, first of all, to try to boot in failsafe mode. Once the machine is up and running (and you will see only a text prompt anding with a #)...
[08:26] <alexander> ru
[08:26] <alexander> how to go to russian chat ?
[08:26] <Jucato> !ru | alexander
[08:26] <ubotu> alexander: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:26] <alexander> #ru-ubuntu
[08:26] <furio84> ... type apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a
[08:26] <alexander> thankz
[08:27] <furio84> exactly as i wrote you
[08:27] <jastengel> how do I get to the failsafe mode?
[08:28] <jastengel> (OMG I feel so stupid...)
[08:28] <sd32> recovery mode?
[08:29] <furio84> Don't worry... There must be a failsafe kernel in grub menu, at least i think. It will lead you to a root terminal, loading just the essential. So, assuming your network will work, my suggestions might help.
[08:30] <furio84> Yes, recovery mode, sorry...
[08:30] <furio84> "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a"
[08:31] <sd32> hit escape during grub menu   then select the recovery mode
[08:31] <jastengel> aah... in the grub process, it said hit escape (gave me 2 seconds) I did, and I have 8 choices, 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) is the second one... is that what I want?
[08:31] <sd32> yes
[08:32] <jastengel> tnx :) its doing --something--
[08:32] <sd32> yw
[08:32] <furio84> Yes, the second one. Remember that the kernel version has to be the same as the first option in the list
[08:32] <jastengel> it was :)
[08:32] <CyberFlux> whats the channel i need for gaming tips in kubuntu?
[08:32] <furio84> ...
[08:32] <sd32> it will go to the command line eventually
[08:33] <furio84> Or at least i hope it will
[08:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> hey..
[08:33] <sd32> :)
[08:33] <jastengel> lol
[08:33] <noaxess_kubuntu> how can is see, what ubuntu i have.. 7.04 or 7.10?
[08:33] <furio84> What appened
[08:33] <furio84> ???
[08:33] <jastengel> its initializing stuff
[08:34] <furio84> A lot of strange things, right?
[08:34] <jastengel> yea... working on hard drives now...
[08:34] <jastengel> scsi1
[08:35] <furio84> Before doing as I told you before, try to write: ping www.google.com to verify network functionality...
[08:35] <jastengel> kk
[08:35] <furio84> The fact that It's working on something is good. Better than nothing...
[08:36] <sd32> phew!!
[08:36] <furio84> Wait a minute, i'm going to have a coffee!
[08:36] <jastengel> it says it cant access tty; job controll turned off
[08:36] <sd32> DOH!!
[08:36] <jastengel> ping not found
[08:37] <sd32> sorry caps
[08:37] <jastengel> totally screwed eh?
[08:37] <sd32> to tell you the truth, i realy dont know:(
[08:37] <WaltzingAlong> noaxess_kubuntu: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:38] <sd32> google it!
[08:39] <jastengel> :/   so how hard is it to mount a drive in another computer to recover critical work data?
[08:39] <jastengel> all that email...
[08:39] <jastengel> ...
[08:39] <jastengel> (gotta laugh at my self I guess)
[08:40] <furio84> wait a minurte before give up...
[08:42] <jastengel> kk of course furio... knew you were getting your java
[08:42] <furio84> Despite ping wasn't found (!!!) try with this: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get -f install && depmod -a
[08:44] <furio84> If apt-get doesn't work because your network is off, maybe depmod -a can solve the problem. If it doesn't, i ask you to boot normally and tell me what kubuntu tells you when boot freezes
[08:44] <jastengel> returns "/bib/sh: apt-get: not found"
[08:45] <furio84> Excuse. First of all, type "/bin/bash" without "
[08:45] <furio84> Then try again ping, apt-get and depmod
[08:46] <jastengel> hey... could I be in a ramdrive? bub doesnt have a bash in it
[08:47] <jastengel> *bin
[08:47] <jastengel> my prompt is "(initramfs)
[08:47] <jastengel> "
[08:47] <furio84> oh my god...
[08:48] <jastengel> it didnt say that until I did cd /bin
[08:48] <furio84> Are you in /bin?!?
[08:48] <jastengel> I am now
[08:49] <furio84> So type "bash"
[08:49] <jastengel> bash: not found
[08:49] <furio84> This may be a real problem... Try with depmod -a, then, and if it does'nt work reboot in "normal mode".
[08:50] <jastengel> I typed depmod -a and it didnt give me an error message... but it didnt "do" anything either
[08:51] <jastengel> it just went to a fresh line with a command prompt
[08:51] <furio84> That's ok. Maybe it is enough... In my experience depmod -a (without any other option) doesn't give any output different from a fresh line.
[08:52] <furio84> So, maybe if you reboot and wait evrything is gone in it's right place.... Or maybe not.
[08:53] <furio84> Is there any strange reason why you speek italian?
[08:53] <Jasen> whoops... I missed that.... I closed my IRC client by accident
[08:54] <Jasen> and it changed my nick
[08:54] <WaltzingAlong> because i was in italy this past weekend?
[08:55] <furio84> So after a weekend you leaned italian???
[08:55] <furio84> Where exactly was you?
[08:55] <furio84> jastengel... how is it going?
[08:56] <Jasen> (jastengel) sry my nick changed, I accidentially closed the IRC client
[08:56] <furio84> Ok ok... and you don't speek italian, i presume...
[08:56] <furio84> Tried with a reboot in normal mode???
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> something like that
[08:56] <Jasen> not yet... doing it
[08:57] <Jasen> should I interupt the grub with escape again and select the first option?
[08:57] <furio84> No, it will use it automatically
[08:57] <Jasen> kk
[08:58] <furio84> Just wait until it freezes, if it does, and tell me what output you have
[08:58] <Jasen> thank you for your patience and assistance :)
[08:58] <furio84> So, WaltzingAlong, where exactly have you been during your italian weekend
[08:58] <furio84> ?
[08:59] <WaltzingAlong> close to venice
[08:59] <furio84> Oh, i love venice.
[09:00] <sd32> its sinking
[09:01] <sd32> :(
[09:02] <WaltzingAlong> did not have time this trip to visit venice
[09:02] <furio84> i think that some day a kind of "venice magic" will save the whole place from sinking... You didn't have time? I'm sorry...
[09:02] <Jasen> it went to the kubuntu load screen with the progress bar and the three gears, then black screen with flashing underline top left corner, then....
[09:02] <furio84> then...
[09:03] <furio84> suspence...
[09:03] <Jasen> BusyBox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) enter '
[09:03] <sd32> drum rool
[09:03] <Jasen> help ' for a list of built in commands.
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> no problem; stop in next time i am there, in december
[09:04] <Jasen> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off "
[09:04] <naught101> does anyone know the command that's called by kmenu>logout>hibernate?
[09:04] <Jasen> (initramfs)
[09:05] <Jasen> then a cursur
[09:06] <furio84> I don't think that "help" will really help you. At this point you have to consider a fresh installation. The good notice is that you have some posibility to save your data without backing up, the bad one is that if you want to back up it won't be possible without a "linux friend", because linux file system isn't read by windows and other os...
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> !ext3
[09:06] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:07] <Jasen> so... if I pop in a fresh hdd... I can install the OS, then mount this hdd and get my data?
[09:07] <Jasen> I just happen to have a fresh hdd....
[09:08] <furio84> I'm really happy you have the possibility to travel so much, WA. Jasen, of course you can, assuming that you know how to do that, because i can't help you
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> just a few hours in the car
[09:08] <Jasen> well... I dont know how to do the software part... but a friend might... the hardware part is easy
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> but yes true wonderful to have the opportunity
[09:08] <furio84> Where are you from, WA?
[09:09] <Jasen> :) thanks for your help...
[09:09] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: the usa
[09:09] <furio84> My help wasn't so useful... :(
[09:10] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: in germany now
[09:10] <Jasen> at least you tried :) now I just gotta find my buddies phone number... its in email on that computer... he is my linux connection lol
[09:10] <Jasen> AND I have to learn how to back up my emails
[09:12] <furio84> The only thing I can say is: don't give up with linux, because with a little experience evrything will go exactly as you want it to... For the software part i can help, hardware is the real problem. But if you are able to put in your new hard drive, simply install kubuntu (or, better for a novice, ubuntu) and you will find your data in /home/<username> folder of your old hard disk.
[09:13] <furio84> Remember that configs and private data such as e-mails are often stored in hidden directories, that in linux are normal directories preceded by a dot (so /home/<username>./kde/share/apps ecc...)
[09:14] <Jasen> :)  I use to be a hardware tech.... but only really worked with microsoft "products"
[09:14] <Jasen> now I make furniture...
[09:14] <ubuntu_> hello all
[09:14] <furio84> So, WA, you'r from USA, but now you live in Germany???
[09:15] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: yes
[09:15] <furio84> Cool... A real traveller
[09:16] <WaltzingAlong> furio84: and you?
[09:16] <furio84> So, jasen, if you are able to install ubuntu or kubuntu, you can manage the disaster, but be careful not to format your old HD, that i think will be recognized as sdb or sdc.
[09:16] <preston> ive got a few questions if someones got a sec
[09:16] <furio84> I live in Italy, always lived here
[09:17] <furio84> Your old hard drive will be recognized and mounted automatically from your new linux installation
[09:18] <furio84> Sorry, but now i have to go... Fitness is calling me... Have an appointment with my personal trainer... See you again
[09:18] <furio84> Bye
[09:18] <preston> adios
[09:18] <Jasen> thanks again
[09:18] <sd32> Jasen, for future reference use both on-line "and" off-line backup for important data
[09:18] <preston> is kcontrol gone guys
[09:19] <WaltzingAlong> preston: no. alt+f2  kcontrol
[09:19] <preston> im a new kubuntu user and linux user for that matter ive been trying to find my distro
[09:19] <preston> i like kde over gnome i know that much
[09:20] <Jasen> lol.... of course... I just hadnt gotten around to learning --how-- to back up my files yet... my windows box is backed up periodically to dvds
[09:20] <WaltzingAlong> !backup
[09:20] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:21] <Jasen> apparently that is a common question :)
[09:21] <preston> how strong of a kde desktop is kubuntu
[09:21] <progress0r> need help, ive battled compiz a hundred times and by God, I still cannot get it to work in gutsy with my ati radeon card. Currently I have followed one of the tutorials and now I cant login to kde, it just sits there with the background and the cursor and nothing else. Anyone have any idea?
[09:21] <sd32> but nobody does it , including me
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | progress0r
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | progress0r (also check the wiki)
[09:22] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: thanks, does it work with kde and kdm or should i be use gdm?
[09:22] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: yes compiz works with kde (and in combination with ati)
[09:23] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: ive followed at least 5 different tutorials whats one more ;) thanks
[09:23] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: you may wish to reconfigure your xserver         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:23] <preston> is there a way to add a area to the kmenu for most popular apps
[09:23] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: after installing everything (xserver-xgl)
[09:23] <preston> and forgive me if my previous question was a bit stupid
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> preston: yes you could have it show the most recently or most frequently used apps
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> preston: find the panel editor where you can manage the menu, the option is there (you could find it through kconrol)
[09:26] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: i am not much of a fan of xserver-xgl and apparently using the most recent fglrx module/driver from ati/amd, then xserver-xgl is no longer needed
[09:26] <sd32> <man I cant wait to get more memory in my  system tomorrow!!
[09:26] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: what is the amount in your system now?
[09:26] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: maybe thats my problem thanks
[09:27] <sd32> WaltzingAlong: 128 meg
[09:27] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: and after tomorrow?
[09:27] <sd32> 512
[09:27] <WaltzingAlong> sd32: nice
[09:27] <sd32> and a new ggraphics card
[09:28] <darlos_> dosen't work
[09:29] <darlos_> can soe
[09:29] <sd32> old card
[09:31] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: do you have xserver-xgl installed? I just removed it but it looks like it removed the libglitz stuff. other than i did follow that tutorial and when i do compiz --replace i get a No whitelisted driver found for XGL.
[09:37] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: no i do not have xserver-xgl installed.
[09:38] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: ok troubleshooting this thing. thanks
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: (this laptop has an nvidia card)
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: did you see the section about adding the 'fglrx' module to the list of whitelisted modules?
[09:39] <jstengel> hey sd... is 7.10 stable?
[09:39]  * jstengel slaps Jasen around a bit with a large trout
[09:39] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: not one of the lts releases but yes
[09:40] <jstengel> which release should I install for stability?
[09:40] <jstengel> (considering I am a nub)
[09:40] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: which do you have now?
[09:40] <sd32> jstengel: workin good for mee
[09:40] <jstengel> I had Edgy... it tried to upgrade to Feisty and it ate itself
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> jstengel: so feisty now? fresh install gutsy
[09:41] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: What was the last entry to me? i logged out just when you entered. I was restarting x server.
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: did you see the section about adding the 'fglrx' module to the list of whitelisted modules?
[09:41] <jstengel> kk...
[09:41] <jstengel> tnx
[09:41] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: not on that tutorial - ill look again
[09:41] <sd32>        I think there all pretty stable, ubuntu is prob the most compatable
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: section on 3d desktop effects
[09:42] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: looking now - tx
[09:43] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: are you referring to the same tutorial? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion? I dont see this section
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide | progress0r, i as referring to this one
[09:45] <WaltzingAlong> progress0r: which describes, among other things, installing the latest 'fglrx' module (which apparently does not require xserver-xgl)
[09:46] <progress0r> WaltzingAlong: aha this is one tutorial i have not seen ok feeling hopeful.
[09:51] <crazy_bus> I have a problem with a hp printer printing missing a colour.  What package should I file it under?
[09:54] <jastengel> how do I mount a HDD
[09:54] <jastengel> it is the first drive on the second ide buss
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: typically one mounts file systems
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> !mounting | jastengel
[09:56] <ubotu> jastengel: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:57] <jastengel> kk.... I have another disk with edgy on it... (hdd) I can see HDC1 in disk and file systems, how do I mount hdc1 so I can access files there (so I can back them up)
[09:57] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: graphically through kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and filesystems
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: need to switch to admin mode, then
[09:58] <jastengel> kk in admin
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: click the entry, click modify, then point to a folder where you want the item mounted
[10:01] <jastengel> kk did that... then I went into the directory and it didnt work
[10:01] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: apparently not following one of the provided guides. my guess is that you need to set up the correct permissions
[10:01] <jastengel> ummm how do I do that?
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: open konsole. type mount             then pastebin the result
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | jastengel
[10:02] <ubotu> jastengel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:06] <jastengel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43396/
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: so what happens when you perform ls -lh /home/jasen/Desktop/old
[10:09] <jastengel> "no such file or directory
[10:10] <noaxess_kubuntu> where do i see, what kubuntu version i have? 7.04 or 7.10?
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: had you made that directory? mkdir /home/jasen/Desktop/old
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> noaxess_kubuntu: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:10] <jastengel> kk.... when I brows it in disk and filesystems, it lets me see the file structure... (when I am in admin mode)
[10:11] <jastengel> but when I go into the directory directly, it doenst have anything
[10:11] <jastengel> I made the directory before I made the sim-link(is that the right term?)
[10:11] <alexander> !ru
[10:11] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: if the directory does not exist, make it. a filesystem can be mounted to an existing location, such as a directory
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> !mount
[10:12] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> !diskmounter
[10:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[10:12] <jastengel> kk it sees it
[10:13] <jastengel> just not in kde
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: where do you see it? in konsole? ls -lh /home/jasen/Desktop     shows the folder 'old'?
[10:15] <jastengel> yes, and it has the folders under the old
[10:15] <jastengel> now its working!!! tnx!!!
[10:15] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: sudo umount /home/jasen/Desktop/old              to unmount
[10:16] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: alright great
[10:16] <jastengel> do you know where thunderbird saves email?
[10:16] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059   <--- PLZ HELP ME WITH THIS!!! :(
[10:16] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: yes
[10:16] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: ~/.thunderbird/random numbers.default/  usually
[10:17] <kloeri> garather_78079: please don't spam
[10:17] <garather_78079> can you give a true answer to that???? my brain's burning!!-------> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <kloeri> my answer is that I really don't like spam and repeating it isn't going to help matters
[10:18] <garather_78079> fuck off biatch
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> what ow?
[10:18] <garather_78079> fuck u
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059
[10:18] <garather_78079> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9530059v
[10:18] <Chousuke> !ops
[10:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[10:19] <Chousuke> oh, heh
[10:19] <Chousuke> too late :(
[10:20] <jastengel> is there a command to search for the .thunderbird directory?
[10:20] <kloeri> Jucato: he's already banned from the entire network (k-lined)
[10:21] <jastengel> <-- I am a nub if you havent already figured that out
[10:21] <emilsedgh> jastengel: find / | grep .thunderbird
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: home/user/.thunderbird/numbers.default/Mail/ folders you may wish to see
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> !email
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <kloeri> find / -name '.thunderbird'
[10:21] <kloeri> no need for grep
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq    about backup, restore, moving, and so on with your thunderbird profile and email
[10:24] <jastengel> (back story, in case lurkers are curious: Feisty Fawn ate my Edgy install, and I am a nub who didnt back up his email before he let the machine upgrade... plus its my work email... cant afford to loose it
[10:25] <jastengel> the moral... backup b4 it cracks up
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: but you have the backup of your old email so the task is now in recovering/restoring it
[10:26] <jastengel> I dont... I have the hard drive in a different linux computer... the one I tested kubuntu on before I put it on my production computer
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: you have a copy of the data.
[10:26] <jastengel> I have the data.... but I am having trouble finding it :)
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: use konqueror, browse in /home/jasen/Desktop/old/home/jasen/.thunderbird/Mail
[10:30] <jastengel> .thunderbird is not in /home/jasen/Desktop/old/home/jasen/
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: may be .mozilla-thunderbird
[10:37] <jastengel> it was .mozilla-thunderbird
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: and if you used the same username, restoring could be as easy as copying .mozilla-thunderbird to your new /home/user folder
[10:43] <jastengel> just a question... not critical... the attachments that were on each message... are they in the local folders directory? or are they elsewhere... its not too big a deal if I loose them... but if its as easy as copying another directory...
[10:43] <tala_> Hi all, i gotta a question, maybe someone can help me...
[10:46] <emilsedgh> jastengel: emails are usually in ~/.mail
[10:46] <emilsedgh> !ask | tala_
[10:46] <ubotu> tala_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <emilsedgh> jastengel: or ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
[10:47] <tala_> I use Kubuntu since 2 years, and i could configure all i did want (beryl, wine, Steam...), theres only one thing i couldnt setup... the sync with my pda...
[10:48] <tala_> I try It with SynCE, but it doesnt conect, I got a Qtek S200 with WinME 5.0
[10:48] <tala_> the sistem detects my device when i conect it at ttyUSB0
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: the way thunderbird stores the email, the attachments are stored within the files you see there in the directory structure in konqueror
[10:48] <jastengel> Thank you for your help WA, my data is safe!!!! I am in youer debt
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> jastengel: glad it worked out for you
[10:49] <tala_> I did configure synCE to listen dis dev, but it seems it doesnt conect the pda
[10:50] <jastengel> goodbye
[10:51] <tala_> have anyone anytime syncronized PDA with Kubuntu?
[10:53] <Lynoure> tala_: yes, but you need to be more specific than that
[10:54] <yeo_> hey all. im having a problem with my audio. - when im playing a song in amarok and i get a message on kopete the music cuts out when kopete plays an alert sound. and then music wont resume
[10:54] <Lynoure> tala_: unless it's a "has synched a PDA / has not synched" poll. Synching Palm was different from synching N800, and I bet others are different, too
[10:54] <yeo_> i'm guessing that kopete steals acess to the audio. but i thinking that shouldnt happen...
[10:55] <tala_> ah ok, i have a Qtek s200 (HTC prophet), its has WindowsCE 5
[10:58] <tala_> I can give you all data needed, i got it conected rigth now...
[10:58] <WaltzingAlong> yeo_: in system settings/sound system, under hardware, which audio device (auto, oss, alsa)
[10:59] <yeo_> oss
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> yeo_: try alsa
[11:02] <Alloosh> hi, guys, I asked this in #ubuntu with no result, I have script that uploads file, so the owner of the files now is www-data, and I want to upload them to the online server, and cant because the owner is www-data and not me, how to change the owner of the files?
[11:03] <dos> Somebody know, when kubuntu packages of kde 4 beta 4 will be released?
[11:03] <dos> chown dos filenames?
[11:04] <tala_> chown comand change owner
[11:04] <jasonago> I'm installing compiz in kubuntu feisty using adept...BUT I'm wondering why adept didnt include a package named compiz-kde...will that be ok? I mean will compiz run on kubuntu just lyk that?
[11:06] <dos> compiz-kde is only a compiz decorator manager with kwin  themes and settings frontend to kcontrol
[11:06] <ubuntu_> I changed hardware (video card, tested another hard drive). I returned original peripherals to original locations. I boot into Kubuntu 6.06, get the KDE logon but entering password just brings me back to KDE logon screen. I
[11:08] <ubuntu_> Any help available on that?
[11:09] <dos> Check for available free space on /home
[11:10] <dos> If it is not enough to login, kde doesn't start...
[11:11] <ubuntu_> There is more than enough space available.
[11:12] <Alarm> hello, is there any difference between splash screens and boot-splash screens ?
[11:12] <dos> Alarm - where?
[11:12] <dos> In KDE?
[11:13] <Alarm> kde-look
[11:14] <ubuntu_> Does that mean I'm screwed?
[11:14] <CyberFlux> what channel should i be in to ask about gaming tips?
[11:14] <dos> Splash screen is after you type your password in kdm and you are waiting to start kde
[11:15] <dos> Boot screen is when you are waiting to login screen - in defaults it is kubuntu logo
[11:16] <Alarm> i see thank you
[11:16] <dos> ubuntu_ - i don't know
[11:17] <dos> Try start kde in console
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> Alarm: yes; boot splash is when booting, normal splash is when loading kde (logging into kde)
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> !bootsplash
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> !usplash
[11:17] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:18] <ubuntu_> Okay, thanks. Yea, I tried in console. Same result, won't recognize password.  I've swapped out hardware before without a problem.
[11:20] <dos> I'll add - usplash is a boot splash in *buntu ;-)
[11:25] <WaltzingAlong> !info usplash
[11:25] <ubotu> usplash: Userspace bootsplash utility. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 152 kB
[11:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> my screensaver activates, about 1/2 hour later, I try to use the computer and xorg is taking about 92% of processor and it never responds. I always end up killing the X server and restarting kdm.  What could be the problem?
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: opengl screensaver?
[11:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> any screen saver.
[11:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have an AMD Athalon 64 3200, ATI 9600XT video card, 2 GB Geil Ram
[11:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> It was doing it in Kubuntu 7.04 and now more repeatedly in 7.10.
[11:28] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: even with settings such as 'blank screen' for the screensaver?
[11:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> Yes.
[11:29] <darlos> hey
[11:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> My system shows that Xorg is at 92% and it doesn't response or once the desktop returns, it freezes kde. I have to press CTRL+ALT+Backspace to kill X and have kdm restarted.
[11:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> have there been a problem with the opengl screen savers?
[11:31] <darlos> how kan i send email with kontact?
[11:31] <WaltzingAlong> darlos: kmail
[11:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> because I don't have that problem with my laptop.
[11:31] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: based on what you have provided thus far, could be any of a number of things.
[11:32] <darlos> do i have to download kmail?
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> !info kmail | darlos
[11:32] <ubotu> darlos: kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2554 kB, installed size 7784 kB
[11:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> WaltzingAlong, would running a x86 version of 7.10 not run properly on a AMD64?
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> darlos: to access kmail within kontact, open the e-mail component
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: that should not be the issue, should work well
[11:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> ok, just wondering.
[11:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> where do you recommend me to start?
[11:34] <wilson_> 64 bit if it's a server , 32 bit if it's a desktop
[11:34] <darlos> okhay i try now
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: checking power management settings, disabling the screen saver but enabling power management (turning off screen),
[11:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I will try it once I get home.
[11:35] <pawan> hi
[11:35] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am at work right now.
[11:36] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntu
[11:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> pawan, check in system configuration and look at the login manager.
[11:36] <shaka> can anyone point me towards the right steps to get compiz fusion working on kubuntu gutsy?
[11:37] <pawan> there is no such option
[11:37] <nonewmsgs> anyone ever get the fsck.ext3: unable to resolve 'UUID=89e6b5....'/fsck died with exit status 8/file system check failed a maintenance shell will now be started
[11:37] <pawan> i am using ubuntu gutsy with kubuntu desktop
[11:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> under the advanced tab.
[11:39] <nonewmsgs> !compiz
[11:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:39] <berkes> is anyone aware of a good way to enlarge the swap partition on an installed system?
[11:39] <shaka> thanks
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: what size is it? a partition editor to resize partitions
[11:40] <nonewmsgs> use gparted to boot so it wont use the swap so you can resize it
[11:40] <darlos> do i have to rwite my email adress?
[11:41] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: it is now 580M I want it 1.5G or so.
[11:41] <darlos> i have hotmail
[11:41] <berkes> problem is, WaltzingAlong, its the first partition, So I am not sure if a partition editor (I use qparted) can do it,
[11:41] <berkes> without severe loss of data
[11:42] <RomeoOrdos> hi
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: one route would be to load from a livecd, use qtparted to resize the partitions as necessary, then reboot
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: and the amount of ram in your computer?
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: or how much swap have you noticed being used?
[11:43] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: 560M, so pretty small, wich is why i gave my swap the same
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: should be about right though
[11:43] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: it often is nearly  saturated, after wich the system gets really slow
[11:43] <pawan> i am using ubuntu gutsy with kubuntu desktop
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: a desktop gnu/linux is not ms windows
[11:43] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntu
[11:43] <pawan> how to automatically login in kubuntudesktop
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> pawan: at the login manager (gdm or kdm) select kde as your session
[11:44] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: yup, I know, Ive been on kde for nearly 8 years exclusively :p
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: then you may wish to grab another harddrive, perhaps one you have laying around, then use its 2 GB as another swap
[11:45] <berkes> however, 2x560M is not enough. Especially when I need monsters like OO.o and swiftfox/firefox. They tend to eat over 20% of the mem.
[11:45] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: good idea. Only. Its a laptop :)
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: yes i think you could use partition editors to change the sizes
[11:46] <nonewmsgs> !fsck
[11:46] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[11:46] <pawan> hi
[11:46] <pawan> selected kde
[11:48] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: and using swap is slow, using more swap (more often) would be seen as a slower system
[11:48] <nonewmsgs> .j #ubuntu
[11:50] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: pastebin results from   free
[11:50] <sorin> hi guys ! can i get any help here ?
[11:50] <WaltzingAlong> !ask | sorin
[11:50] <ubotu> sorin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:51] <sorin> i try from 3 times and i don't get any help here
[11:51] <sorin> so i ask first
[11:51] <sorin> how can i mount a vfat partition?
[11:51] <WaltzingAlong> !mount | sorin
[11:51] <ubotu> sorin: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> !diskmounter | sorin
[11:52] <ubotu> sorin: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> sorin: the guides walk you through the answers. ask when you get stuck
[11:53] <sorin> i just want to be mounted at kubuntu start
[11:53] <sorin>  p[lease how can modify fstab for that ?
[11:53] <WaltzingAlong> !fstab | sorin
[11:53] <ubotu> sorin: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:53] <berkes> WaltzingAlong: yea, I already ordered more RAM, but 1G of ram would "require" (is adviced) also more swap. hence I want to resize it.
[11:53] <berkes> and WaltzingAlong: the noteook is off right now so no "free" results :)
[11:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> berkes, you don't need a large swap file if you have large amount of RAM.
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: so use the partition managers to change sizes. lot of flexibility because you could boot without swap, recreate it later,
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: i agree
[11:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> I only have 250 MB of swap on mine with 2GB of ram and it runs excellently (my laptop).
[11:56] <nonewmsgs> exactly.  i have resized my swap so it's smaller.  for some reason when i allowed feisty to autopartition it gave itself a 5gb partition because i have 2gb of ram
[11:56] <WaltzingAlong> on this machine the swap is the same size as the installed RAM (2GB) but the system hardly ever uses the swap and runs completely fine with swap disabled (sudo swapoff -av)
[11:56] <pawan1234> hi
[11:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> nonewmsgs, that would have applied in the old days... circa 1992 when ram was expensive.
[11:57] <pedro> oi
[11:57] <pawan1234> how to hide desktop icons
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> and with ms windows
[11:57] <jussi01> could someone remind me how/point me to documentation to make a dropdown
[11:57] <pawan1234> how to run compiz in kubuntu
[11:57] <jussi01> in openoffice spreadsheet
[11:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> !compiz
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | pawan1234
[11:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> pawan1234: hide desktop icons? right mouse click on the desktop, configure desktop, in behavior, then uncheck 'show icons on desktop'
[11:58] <berkes> gundam_rx78nt1: sure, its not some iron law, and in cases of large amounts of RAM you'll prolly be able to do without swap alltogther. still, with 1G of ram it is adviced to have 1G of swap
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> berkes: so follow some other advice :D
[11:59] <pawan1234> command to install compiz
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> pawan1234: follow the guides
[11:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> depending on what you do with your system, you will notice that you barely or never use that swap at all.
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | pawan1234 (follow these guides to install compiz with kde)
[12:01] <sztiksz> hi
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | sztiksz
[12:03] <ubotu> sztiksz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:03] <DarkLaptop> Guys, need to install kubuntu on raid-0. Help.
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> DarkLaptop: may need the dvd or alternate cd for that
[12:04] <DarkLaptop> I am waiting in alternative cd
[12:05] <DarkLaptop> I can execute shell from here
[12:05] <DarkLaptop> In install menu
[12:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> DarkLaptop, just as a suggestion, keep your /boot partition on a non raid partition by it's self.
[12:05] <WaltzingAlong> its
[12:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry.
[12:05] <WaltzingAlong> lol
[12:05] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[12:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am a spanish speaking person :p
[12:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> :)
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> no harm done
[12:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> Well, not really. Just lived a long time in Puerto Rico. Long enough to pick up Spanish as a second language.
[12:07] <WaltzingAlong> its - possessive pronoun; it's - contraction of it is
[12:07] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: and a first?
[12:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> First language will always be US English.
[12:08] <WaltzingAlong> :)
[12:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am tired.  Working the graveyard shift is hell on the brain.
[12:09] <DarkLaptop> So, where do I begin with fakeraid install?
[12:10] <WaltzingAlong> DarkLaptop: searching ubuntu forums for howtos
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> !help
[12:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> DarkLaptop: a quick search of installing ubuntu on raid should yield some helpful results
[12:12] <DarkLaptop> dual boot windows and ubuntu on raid.
[12:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> DarkLaptop, is it a SATA raid 0?
[12:14] <gundam_rx78nt1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[12:14] <pawan> how to install beryl
[12:16] <WaltzingAlong> pawan: as we pointed out before
[12:16] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | pawan
[12:18] <madler> hi everyone... my us international keyboard setting has stop working inside kde apps (firefox for example is still fine)
[12:18] <madler> can someone help me debug this
[12:18] <madler> ?
[12:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> madler, what does it do?
[12:20] <madler> it somehow ignores the deadkeys and for example for double quotes it prints this ¨
[12:20] <madler> so there is now way that I can input any umlauts since no deadkey on ¨
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> madler: kmenu/system settings/regional and language/keyboard layout, which is selected?
[12:21] <madler> only in kde apps though
[12:21] <madler> none
[12:21] <madler> hang on
[12:21] <madler> turned off
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> madler: enable it, select the keyboard layout you wish to use
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> madler: along with the corresponding variant
[12:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> open up your kde control center and look under Regional & Accessibility.  You can change your keyboard layout and set additional settings for you keyboard behaviour.
[12:22] <madler> WaltzingAlong: does this becomce active immediatley
[12:22] <madler> ?
[12:23] <WaltzingAlong> i think so
[12:23] <madler> or logout back in?
[12:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> log back in.
[12:23] <madler> ok
[12:23] <madler> brb
[12:26] <yknott> WaltzingAlong: greetings
[12:26] <tiger_> Hi
[12:26] <madler> this did not help WaltzingAlong and gundam_rx78nt1
[12:27] <WaltzingAlong> madler: ok otherwise check that the keyboard settings are right in x server conf file. btw, what changed that it started not working?
[12:29] <madler> WaltzingAlong: I was hoping you would have skipped this question ... are you seated? I changed sources.list to hardy, after dist-upgrade noticed that not all of xorg 1.3 was in yet so changed back to gusty ... got the system back up and I though all is good until I tried to do double quotes in konsole ... as said in firefox, it works fine
[12:29] <madler> so yes I know myself around a bit
[12:30] <WaltzingAlong> madler: so you may want to reconfigure xserver, selecting the keyboard layout and variant you want. (may also help to have all packages from one dist release ;) ) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:30] <madler> did that
[12:30] <madler> at least the reconfigure part
[12:31] <madler> but I will completely remove all xserver-xorg packages and re-install them ... to make sure that I am not running different version
[12:31] <madler> s
[12:32] <madler> brb, I hope
[12:38] <jasonago> I already installed compiz on feisty...but how will I enable it? How will the effects be invoked? I tried typing compiz --replace in konsole but it chnaged my window into no title bar...
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> jasonago: that is how you enable it (compiz --replace); you may also wish to configure it, turning on the 'cube' and such
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | jasonago, consult the wiki at least and the other channel too, perhaps
[12:40] <jasonago> ok thanks!!!
[12:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> 5 more days for the Birthday Bash!!! (not my B-day, just in case).
[12:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> great name. vistakiller.  Tux the Vistakiller.
[12:43] <vistakiller> :)
[12:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am not cool enough to have thought up that name.  Good work vistakiller.  :D
[12:44] <vistakiller> thanks :P
[12:44] <wesley> hi guys how do i get the flip flap effect from compiz fusion?
[12:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> wesley, please follow the instuction on the wiki.compiz-fusion.org
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | wesley, check the wiki and the channel dedicated to answering that
[12:45] <wesley> I have it enabled
[12:45] <wesley> but i did see a flip flap effect on youtube in compiz fusion
[12:45] <Alarm> anyone here having baghira theme installed ?
[12:46] <wesley> baghira theme give problems with non kde apps thats why i did disable it
[12:46] <Alarm> i have it installed, havent seen this problem yet
[12:46] <Alarm> problems like what wesley  ?
[12:47] <wesley> blackscreens only if you hover with the mouse over it you could click it its by apps that are non kde
[12:48] <Alarm> i use also apps that are not kde and dont have this problem. i use xchat, acroread, azureus
[12:48] <Alarm> havent seen anything like that
[12:48] <wesley> its not always
[12:48] <Alarm> the only thing that i see which is , when i do a download and the titlebar is refreshing for example to 50% to 51%, 52% , every time its flashing
[12:49] <Alarm> instead of that everything works fine. though i cant understand most of the colours or settings what changes they do
[12:49] <Alarm> did you install it from your repo ?
[12:49] <E_mE> what does it mean when Kubuntu wont load the desktop from KDM login screen?!?!
[12:50] <wesley> yes i install from repo
[12:50] <Alarm> that you wont have a login screen
[12:50] <Alarm> it will boot directly to your user, (i suppose)
[13:04] <WaltzingAlong> !autostart
[13:04] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[13:09] <E_mE> Alarm: no.. i use the login screen first.. then click login and it just halts
[13:10] <Alarm> and what happens ?
[13:11] <E_mE> Alarm: nothing... just stays pre-KDE start up.. need to press Alt+Ctrl+Backspace to get back to KDm and then go via console login
[13:11] <Alarm> dont know where kdm saves the logs. check if there are kdm longs under /var/log
[13:12] <Alarm> cause if it would be xorg it wouldnt load the splash screen either
[13:14] <E_mE> Alarm: understandable... ive looged at the logs and doesn;t appear to say much..
[13:15] <kristina> hi, when programming in kate can I collapse all text?
[13:33] <bazhang> greetings all
[13:34] <Jahman> hi
[13:35] <atlfalcons866> hi
[13:38] <Downix> ARGH!  My new Kubuntu machine went south on me
[13:38] <Downix> still can't figure out what happened
[13:44] <ubuntu> hi
[13:44] <Downix> hello
[13:44] <ubuntu> lol
[13:44] <ubuntu> Umm what one is better ubuntu or kubuntu'
[13:44] <bazhang> Downix: it won't boot
[13:44] <bazhang> ?
[13:45] <Downix> bazhang, It turn off without warning, and ever since it will randomly try to start up, then turn off again.
[13:45] <Downix> ubuntu:  they're the same thing save which window manager it comes with.
[13:45] <bazhang> single boot machine Downix?
[13:45] <Downix> bazhang, Yup.  Note, it's not a PC.
[13:45] <ubuntu> No they are completly different
[13:45] <ubuntu> Kde and gnome
[13:46] <bazhang> Downix: what do you mean not a PC?
[13:46] <Downix> ubuntu:  yes, those are the window managers.
[13:46] <Downix> bazhang;  just that, no BIOS, no x86-compat CPU, no 8-bit legacy, no method of booting any Windows newer than NT 4.0.... not a PC.
[13:46] <ubuntu> Ok, Can i get compiz on kubuntu
[13:46] <ubuntu> PS# right
[13:47] <ubuntu> Ps3
[13:47] <bazhang> Downix: ok.
[13:47] <ubuntu> Can boot ubuntu
[13:47] <bazhang> ubuntu: yes you can get compiz-fusion on Kubuntu
[13:47] <Downix> bazhang:  It's perplexing me because I can't use my usual method of hitting the BIOS to see what's the matter.  OpenFirmware is still quite alien to me.
[13:48] <ubuntu> Ok. Well i am going to dualboot ubuntu and kubuntu. see you all later.
[13:48] <Downix> ???
[13:48] <clyde> what kind of maintenance has to be performed on kubuntu (new to linux, am uesd to windows where there is a lot of maintenance)
[13:48] <Downix> Why not just install Ubuntu then install KDE with it?
[13:48] <ubuntu> how
[13:48] <Downix> clyde:  not much
[13:48] <ubuntu> Why.
[13:48] <Downix> ubuntu:  use the package manager to install kde.
[13:48] <ubuntu> Ok.
[13:48] <ubuntu> Yoou have a point.
[13:49] <Downix> or install kubuntu then install gnome
[13:49] <Downix> same thing
[13:49] <ubuntu> Yea. Ok
[13:49] <ubuntu> Ill do that.
[13:49] <Downix> My son likes GNOME, I run KDE, my wife goes for Enlightenment
[13:49] <Downix> the beauty part about Linux, they all just work!
[13:49] <clyde> do i need to do anything to maintain kubuntu?
[13:50] <Downix> clyde: every so often it will check for updates
[13:50] <Downix> clyde:  when you need to install them it'll let you know.
[13:51] <clyde> the updates i understand but do i need to defrag or anything?
[13:51] <Downix> I'm about to put Kubuntu on a PC now, and use that to serial-terminal into the box to see what's going on with the firmware.  I was so sad when the SPARC crashed....
[13:51] <Casey> No.
[13:51] <Downix> clyde:  no.  The ext3, xfs, ReiserFS and JFS file systems all eliminate the need for defragging.
[13:51] <Casey> clyde: Linux is not like Windows where you have to defrag
[13:52] <clyde> this seems a lot easier than windows. thanks for the info...
[13:52] <Downix> clyde:  the irony of course being that it now runs more Windows software, using the WINE add-on, than Windows Vista does.  8)
[13:53] <clyde> i have an old address book that i like, are you saying that it will run it???
[13:53] <Casey> Possibly.
[13:54] <kalorin> I just got parts for an upgrade yesterday
[13:54] <Casey> You'll have to look at Wine's Apps DB or test it yourself
[13:54] <Downix> there's a good chance, but you'd have to first install and set up Wine or one of the commercial wine variants like Crossover Office or Cedega.
[13:54] <kalorin> E6750 baord and chips and stuff
[13:54] <kalorin> is there any reason i shouldnt' got to 64bit?
[13:54] <clyde> windows vista would not run it on this 64 bit computer.
[13:54] <clyde> is there help on wine?
[13:55] <Casey> clyde: There might be a Linux alternative you might like.
[13:55] <clyde> yes???
[13:55] <Downix> Yes but I'd check on native Linux apps first
[13:56] <clyde> Casy: what is the alt in linux?
[13:58] <Casey> clyde: Are you talking about just an address book client or an address book + email client?
[13:58] <poison--> mornin guys
[13:59] <Downix> Hey, does the 64-bit SPARC port run apps in 64-bit land or 32-bit land?
[13:59] <Downix> I know Debian runs them in 32-bit land
[13:59] <clyde> yes, i've got one that i have used since win 95, and i like it a lot for it's ease of use
[13:59] <Downix> clyde:  which one is it?
[13:59] <clyde> parsons address book
[14:00] <MasterShrek> clyde, if it run in win95 im almost positive it will runin wine
[14:00] <clyde> ok, thanks i will try it.
[14:03] <wesley> i see kubuntu needs more memory to load then 7.04
[14:04] <kenny> walcie sie ;d
[14:07] <pault> I'd like to bridge two network cards together. Anybody know what's the easiest way to do this?
[14:08] <kalorin> anyone
[14:08] <MementoMori> pault:  search for enabling packet forwards in google
[14:08] <kalorin> will a core 2 duo run 64bit?
[14:08] <kalorin> I'm assuming that it will
[14:08] <kalorin> and are there any massive problems with running 64bit at this time?
[14:08] <pault> I've done it with slackware. Kubuntu's the problem
[14:08] <kalorin> pault: you'd want to use kernel stuff
[14:08] <kalorin> iptables
[14:10] <pault> I use bridge-utils, but how do you configure the resulting brX interface?
[14:11] <Downix> kalorin, I've had issues with Core-series in 64-bit mode.
[14:12] <Downix> kalorin:  Intel's 64-bit x86 implimentation leaves a lot to be desired.
[14:14] <kalorin> yeah that's what i'm thinking too
[14:14] <kalorin> I don't want to go through the trouble to install it and then have a lot of issues with it over time
[14:14] <kalorin> app here and there that doesn't run correctly or something
[14:29] <mohamed_> hello all, i use openoffice 2.3 with kubuntu i want to connect to mysql database using openoffice when i click new database i get window with disable combo for connect to anexisting database and JDBC i have no choise there, anyone have an idea about this ?
[14:29] <hydrogen> ehm
[14:29] <hydrogen> intel and amd's 64 bit implementations are identical
[14:29] <hydrogen> assuming you are talking about emt64
[14:30] <kalorin> yeah I pulled both cd's
[14:30] <kalorin> mainly I just don't want to find out that gimp doesn't run well under 64bit or something like that
[14:30] <hydrogen> 64bit is mostly supported
[14:31] <SteamMachine> Hi all. I was wondering... what office suite does kubuntu ship with?
[14:31] <hydrogen> there are some binary-only apps (flash fex) that do not work on 64bit nicely
[14:31] <kalorin> "mostly"?
[14:31] <hydrogen> openoffice
[14:31] <SteamMachine> koffice or oo.o?
[14:31] <kalorin> ah
[14:31] <SteamMachine> Ah
[14:31] <kalorin> openoffice doesn't run on 64bit?
[14:31] <hydrogen> it does
[14:31] <SteamMachine> Wait what?
[14:31] <hydrogen> Ooo wasn't to you kalorin
[14:31] <hydrogen> it was to SteamMachine
[14:31] <SteamMachine> ah, thought so. : )
[14:31] <kalorin> ah sorry
[14:31] <SteamMachine> awesome.
[14:31] <hydrogen> there are very few benefits from running 64bit os's at this point
[14:32] <hydrogen> unless you happen to want to use your desktop for high end mathematical/scientific computing
[14:32] <hydrogen> or have >4gb of ram
[14:32] <SteamMachine> So... what's the general consensus of kubuntu 7.10?
[14:32] <hydrogen> it took guts!
[14:32]  * hydrogen goes to get breakfast
[14:32] <eetfuk> > 4gb ram or >= 4 gb ram?
[14:32] <kalorin> steam: i tried to do an upgrade over the weekend and blew things up really bad
[14:32] <SteamMachine> Oh dear.
[14:33] <kalorin> but I think it was mostly because I had an ATI card in there, then replaced it
[14:33] <SteamMachine> I'm planning to back everything up onto DVD and then install from the kubuntu dvd.
[14:33] <kalorin> and was using the ATI closed drivers and then the NVidia closed drivers
[14:33] <Downix> I hate closed drivers
[14:33] <Downix> Vivia la XGI!
[14:33] <kalorin> so it had some issue with doing the mesa package
[14:33] <SteamMachine> but... I'm not sure how much I like the look of everything. Plastik seems different.
[14:33] <kalorin> and then I got mad it and it forced it
[14:34] <mohamed_> can anyone tell me about a good tool to edit mysql records ?
[14:34] <kalorin> never got it to take the package, just kept complaining about not being able to make a symlink in /usr/lib
[14:34] <kalorin> mohamed_: mysqladmin
[14:34] <jeanmass> hello
[14:34] <mohamed_> thx, kalorin
[14:34] <SteamMachine> It's almost too rounded.
[14:35] <SteamMachine> Like, KDE has always been about lines for me.
[14:35] <emilsedgh> mohamed_: if you want gui, knoda is great
[14:35] <SteamMachine> Lines, smooth colours, etc.
[14:35] <jeanmass> i've just installed 7.10 to a new pc, i wanted to use recovery partition to restore PC to fabric settings, but nothing happens when i pres F9 during boot... ?
[14:35] <SteamMachine> Not too space age, but modern.
[14:35] <kalorin> yeah
[14:35] <mohamed_> thx, emilsedgh  i install it now
[14:35] <eetfuk> My desktop freezes when using Ktorrent or Mediatomb.
[14:35] <SteamMachine> Sadly it seems to have changed with this release.
[14:35] <kalorin> so what should you do to upgrade if you're using the nvidia closed drivers?
[14:36] <eetfuk> I have a D-link DWL-510(802.11b)
[14:36] <kalorin> uninstall them and go back to just standard stuff then upgrade, adn then reinstall theM?
[14:36] <mneisen> hi, after upgrading to gutsy the desktop has become insanely slow. I guess it has something to do with the xorg settings. Especially, I noticed that Xgl is running instead of the traditional X. The output looks like it's using VESA/frame buffering. Does anybody know anything?
[14:37] <pault> kalorin: i had problems installing nvidia in gutsy. tried to use package manager, but should have used the install proprietary drivers applet
[14:38] <pault> re-installed used proper option, and it worked after that
[14:38] <kalorin> k thanks
[14:38] <kalorin> iv'e got my workstation here at work to do as well
[14:39] <kalorin> thinking I should just go ahead and do it, but I'd hate to have it blow up
[14:39] <pault> dited xorg.conf to show nvidia splash screen, confirm its working
[14:39] <pault> *edited*
[14:40] <kalorin> so just go ahead and try to do the upgrade with the nvidia propriatary drivers in place and it'll be ok you think?
[14:40] <pault> welll i didn't upgrade, I re-installed......
[14:40] <kalorin> ah
[14:40] <pault> ah indeed
[14:40] <SteamMachine> Is there a list of what is installed in the kgear menu?
[14:40] <SteamMachine> Erm
[14:41] <SteamMachine> rephrase
[14:41] <SteamMachine> For the gutsy release, what applications are installed by default?
[14:41] <pault> upgrading's a bugger!
[14:41] <kalorin> yeah thatw as something else I noticed
[14:42] <kalorin> when I did hte upgrade, all the sudden I had all these packages back that I'd uninstalled before
[14:42] <kalorin> kind of aggrevating, I didn't want them before, i don't want them now
[14:43] <kalorin> of course it didn't complete the upgrade, because it blew up before it finished due to that symlink it wasn't able to make
[14:43] <pault> now i've re-installed, and read some blogs, and re-installed, i'm happy with it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[14:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> mornin kaj
[14:45] <BluesKaj> good day to spend inside ...cold & rain here
[14:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> supposed to start getting snow up here :\
[14:46] <BluesKaj> mornin' Daisuke
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yup, here too, tonite
[14:47] <BluesKaj> I'm in Northern Ontario ...forgot where you are Daisuke,  in the Rockies?
[14:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> nah, not that far south of you
[14:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> NE indiana
[14:55] <BluesKaj> oh ok ...wasn't sure where e.verizon server was located
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, any idea of an app that converts or unwraps .mkv video files to mpeg or dvd ?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> mkv seems to be the "latest thing" in video codec compression but I can't find a simple solution other than using a series of 2 applications to convert them
[14:59] <Alarm> the screen that appears to login (before kde starts) , is a kdm theme boot splash screen or splash screen
[14:59]  * karola buen dia
[15:00] <Alarm> ok found it
[15:08] <b_> hello everyone i have a plm
[15:09] <BluesKaj> !ask | b_
[15:09] <ubotu> b_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:09] <eetfuk> Im having trouble with my wireless!
[15:09] <b_> i want to modify my /etc/fstab.can you give me a example.
[15:10] <b_> i want to load the vfat hd
[15:10] <b_> my version is kubuntu 7.10
[15:10] <eetfuk> Its a D-Link DWL-510, and it seems that whenever i use Torrents or MediaTomb the machine frezes completly. Using Gutsy.
[15:12] <b_> eetfuk could u
[15:12] <MasterShrek> eetfuk, paste the output of: lspci | grep Network
[15:13] <eetfuk> nothing
[15:13] <eetfuk> grep Ethernet however: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[15:13] <eetfuk> 05:01.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DWL-510 2.4GHz Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 20)
[15:14] <MasterShrek> hmm, my friend had a dlink, wifi card, it was broadcom based...did it work out of the box or did u have to set it up somehow?
[15:14] <MasterShrek> !mount | b_
[15:14] <ubotu> b_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:14] <BluesKaj> !wireless | eetfuk
[15:14] <ubotu> eetfuk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:14] <b_> !mount
[15:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[15:15] <eetfuk> MasterShrek: It worked out of the box, and i have no ndizw installed.
[15:16] <b_> !fstab
[15:16] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[15:16] <MasterShrek> eetfuk, hmm, well i dunno what to tell you really, i havent ever used that chip b4
[15:18] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[15:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:22] <ubuntu> hello
[15:23] <ubuntu> how to remove grub from the pc?
[15:23] <ubuntu> fixmbr?
[15:23] <ubuntu> i read it did not work for vista
[15:25] <rjune_> ubuntu: you mean fdisk /fixmbr?
[15:25] <ubuntu> rjune_: yes
[15:26] <ubuntu> i want to remove grub
[15:26] <ubuntu> i read a commqnd like fixmbr
[15:26] <ubuntu> does it work for vista?
[15:26] <rjune_> no clue.
[15:26] <rjune_> that's the way it was done in xp, I would think it would work in vista.
[15:27] <rjune_> but I don't use vista.
[15:30] <backtick> hi all, i'm installed gutsy on my machine with an old LG Studioworks 550G monitor (refersh rate is 60).. but during the boot process, the monitor reports that it's being set to an unsupported (higher) frequency and reverts back.. by then most of the boot process has already completed and X goes on to start.. any ideas on how to fix that?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> rjune_, no to restore the mbr in vista one needs a seperate app called  EasyBCD
[15:37] <BluesKaj> backtick, the only way i can think of is : k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/monitor/configure. Find your monitor in the list and "apply" , if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[15:43] <backtick> BluesKaj: well i did but i think it configures  X not the boot splash stuff..
[15:46] <BluesKaj> well, backtick that's not a serious problem , you can configure that in system settings splash screen , if that's what you mean
[15:47] <bazhang> err this is pretty embarrassing--went to install realplayer to my system and installed it twice --once to /opt/RealPlayer, and once to my Desktop :{
[15:48] <bazhang> so to remove the desktop version I should sudo rmdir rm -f RealPlayer, right?
[15:49] <bazhang> don't usually make such idiot moves, but there you are..
[15:52] <BluesKaj> bazhang, remove both , then reinstall one ...that way you'll be sure one installation won't interfere with the other
[15:53] <bazhang> BluesKaj: thanks--so was that code right? sudo rmdir rm-f RealPlayer?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> yeah , I think that should work
[15:54] <KingJere> I installed a command line kubuntu feisty on a very low end laptop. What packages do I need to install to enable usb automount?
[15:54] <bazhang> it says directory not empty :{
[15:54] <MementoMori> bazhang: rm -rf
[15:54] <BluesKaj> bazhang, did you compile ?
[15:54] <savetheWorld> wow, ISO download in 17 minutes!
[15:55] <bazhang> BluesKaj: yeah, downloaded from real.com then sudo ./Realetcetc.bin
[15:55] <bazhang> thanks MementoMori
[15:55] <MementoMori> urw
[15:56] <BluesKaj> yeah rmdir will generate that output "dir not empty", just use what MementoMori suggested
[15:57] <downix> Ok, kubuntu is now on my PC
[15:57] <downix> hopefully this can fix my SPARC machine
[15:58] <downix> still fustrating, I had AROS half-compiled when it went down
[15:58] <BluesKaj> dunno why webmasters use realplayer ..it's a PITA
[15:58] <KingJere> BTW I can confirm that kubuntu (command line) can be installed on PII with only 64M of ram.
[15:58] <cloakable> :D
[15:59] <BluesKaj> KingJere, yes i did that 2 yrs ago with dapper ...was a bit slow with kde tho
[15:59] <KingJere> BluesKaj: I use fluxbox
[15:59] <KingJere> BluesKaj: its tollerable
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yes KingJere fluxbox is a smaller footprint
[15:59] <wesley> can it be they hacked my kopete?
[16:00] <KingJere> BluesKaj: did you see my original question about automount?
[16:00] <bazhang> Hi Jucato
[16:01] <Dream_Coder> has anyone got 3gp encoding to work in kubuntu?
[16:01] <bazhang> how does one play 3gp files?
[16:01] <Dream_Coder> i installed 3gp movie wizard it loads etc then just sort of tries to encode and doesnt
[16:02] <BluesKaj> KingJer no I didn't ...was doing some other stuff
[16:03] <KingJere> Whats the packages I need to enable automount of usb drives on that laptop PII
[16:03] <Dream_Coder> bazhang http://my.opera.com/kubuntu-linux/forums/topic.dml?id=194476
[16:03] <downix> holy smokes
[16:03] <bazhang> Dream_Coder: thanks!
[16:03] <KingJere> just hal?
[16:03] <downix> I just ran a gears test under the new kubuntu install, got a 30% performance boost over the same test under Vista
[16:04] <KingJere> and its dependencies?
[16:04] <Tasos> does anybody know which packages I need to enable to use the 'make' command?
[16:04] <downix> tasos:  automake  autoconf
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Tasos, you need build-essential
[16:04] <Tasos> thanx downix i'll try it
[16:05] <downix> build-essential will add those IIRC, plus a lot of other things
[16:06] <hydrogen> everything you need to actually build..
[16:06] <BluesKaj> KingJere, I'm not sure what you mean ...my USB pendrive is auto detected
[16:06] <hydrogen> downix: automake doesn't provide the make command, make does
[16:06] <hydrogen> afaik
[16:07] <hydrogen> yea
[16:07] <BluesKaj> chores to do for 20mins or so ...BBL
[16:08] <wesley> can it be that my kopete is hacked if i change my pass on msn its says on kopete its wrong
[16:09] <hydrogen> likely not
[16:10] <Dr`Dre> hello ... how can i have a java creator on Kubuntu ?
[16:10] <wesley> but if i change it and typ my pass its says its not good
[16:12] <downix> Dr`Dre: text editor + JDK?
[16:12] <dappermuis> hey Jucato
[16:12] <Dr`Dre> yea downix
[16:13] <RurouniJones> Good god skype is garbage under linux.
[16:13] <KingJere> BluesKaj: not when you install command line version. Its not automounted. i.e. at /media/usbdrive
[16:13] <downix> RurouniJones: You're saying it's not elsewhere?
[16:13] <Fulgrim> where can i find the depot for kubuntu gutsy please ?
[16:14] <dappermuis> Fulgrim, huh?
[16:14] <RurouniJones> downix: At least it doesn't crash half the time.
[16:14] <downix> RurouniJones: heh
[16:14] <Tm_T> !away > Karti
[16:14] <RurouniJones> Because I have the sheer temerity to try and call a phone with it!
[16:14] <dappermuis> Dr`Dre, you might want to try NetBeans or Eclipse
[16:15] <downix> RurouniJones: I tried it once under XP, crashed every half hour or so.
[16:15] <Karti> Tm_T: I fully appologise for testing my away name :(
[16:15] <Tm_T> Karti: np
[16:16] <Dr`Dre> downix:  what do u mean with text editor + JDK ?
[16:16] <Fulgrim> dappermuis:  the backports
[16:17] <Fulgrim> dappermuis:  for kubuntu gutsy, i want to upadte the softwares, when i do sudp apt-get update
[16:18] <dappermuis> Fulgrim, I'm assuming you've got gutsy - then, if there's nothing to update it won't update
[16:18] <Fulgrim> no now i haven't gutsy
[16:18] <dappermuis> oh i see, so you wan't to upgrade to gutsy?
[16:18] <Fulgrim> yes !
[16:19] <Fulgrim> maybe i have the 7.04
[16:19] <Fulgrim> or something like that
[16:19] <dappermuis> Fulgrim, see the upgrade instructions - http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[16:21]  * karola regreso
[16:25] <Fulgrim> ok thx dappermuis
[16:27] <Fulgrim> dappermuis:  how can i do to find which kubuntu version i have ?
[16:30] <dappermuis> Fulgrim, try lsb_release -c
[16:31] <thegeco> hi everybodt
[16:31] <zenzu-yang> hello wow can run on a kubuntu with wine ?
[16:32] <thegeco> i'm on a virtual machine ;)
[16:32] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, check the database on the wine site
[16:32] <dappermuis> thegeco, what you using?
[16:32] <zenzu-yang> ?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ive heard /seen WoW work with Cedega. it may work with wine now
[16:32] <zenzu-yang> dappermuis where ?
[16:32] <thegeco> vbox 1.52 on a winxp pro host
[16:32] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, i'm finding the link, 2 seconds
[16:33] <downix> Dr_Willis:  It works under both.
[16:33] <thegeco> i have to go
[16:33] <thegeco> byebye
[16:33] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[16:34] <zenzu-yang> dappermuis thx
[16:34] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, np
[16:35] <zenzu-yang> i think it works
[16:35] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, yes - from what i just read it appears it does
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> last i tried WoW with wine.. every WoW update..needed a wine Update to get it working again. :)
[16:36] <downix> Dr_Willis:  WoW has been banning the accounts of folk that run it under Linux lately.
[16:36] <downix> Dr_Willis:  then again, I find WoW a step backwards from my chosen MMO, CoH.
[16:37] <zenzu-yang> dappermuis oke thnx i got ot go now
[16:37] <dappermuis> zenzu-yang, sure - cheers
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> downix Been playint Lord Of the Rings Online. :) its less.. hectic
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> My brother got his WoW account banned.. so we dont play it any more. :) theres plenty of other games out.
[16:41] <downix> Dr_Willis:  I tried LOTR, still found it lacking.  I guess I got spoiled on CoH's creation system.  Find the others too limited
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> spend 10 hrs making a char.. ya play for 10 min. :)
[16:41] <downix> 8)
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> I havent played CoH in ages.. last i was on . it was eveyrone just farming for exp.
[16:41] <downix> yes, but you look so good doing it!
[16:42] <downix> Dr_Willis:  it's changed dramatically over the past year.
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> downix for the better or worse.. :) i saw where they adeded crafting.. which i 'feel' is a bad thing. heh :)
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> But if you like it - have a blast.
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Its just kind of depressing to go back into a game. and the once "highly populated' areas are now totally dead.
[16:43] <downix> Dr_Willis:  The CoH crafting system is unlike EQ/WOW/LOTR's.
[16:43] <downix> Hrm?  Subscription hasn't been this high since the game began.
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> They had Horse Raceing in LordOfTheRings the last few weeks. :)  you actually rode the horse in the races.
[16:43] <downix> fun
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> downix if you say so. I never see CoH mentioned any more in the mags. But I dont pay attention to it all.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> Perhaps if NcSoft had an "all in one' package.  for a reasonable price.
[16:44] <downix> Next issue is due out shortly, so expect more news soon
[16:44] <downix> NcSoft has an all in one subscription plan, has for over a year now
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> I get their emails and stuff.. but nothing in  MMORPGS 'excite' me any more these days.
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> downix they HAVENT mentioned that in their emails to me then. :)
[16:45] <bazhang> seen todays distrowatch weekly?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> I  saw no mention of it in the TabulaRasa beta i was playing, or the AutoAssault stuff.
[16:45] <downix> Dr_Willis:  Hm, ok *shrug*  AutoAssault I still felt NC handled badly...
[16:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> GW or bust!
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> downix yep. thats putting it mildly.
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> Guildwars  was fun for a while. :)
[16:46] <downix> Dr_Willis:  The new endgame content for CoH changes things a lot as well.
[16:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dr_Willis: i have less problems with their revenue model than most MMOs
[16:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> pay full price for a game, but no monthly = awesome
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> Endgame means nothing to me.. I never get that far. :)
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> Daisuke_Laptop but guildwars2 is due out sometime.. will they continue that. :) DungeonRunners is a neat distraction also
[16:50] <vge> !dolphin
[16:50] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dr_Willis: i'm thinking they won't break a model that's served them very well
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> Is autoassault like.. GONE? I dont see it mentioned ion the NCsoft page.
[16:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> they have the whole "don't want to pay monthly" crowd wrapped up, and the monthly-fee arena is waaaay too overcrowded.  moving to a monthly model would kill GW.
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont see mention of any all-in-one priceing either for the other games.. Hmm.. lets look some more
[16:54] <ardchoille> kbfx is quite nice. Nice change from the standard menus
[16:56] <downix> Dr_Willis:  AutoAssault was closed down months ago.  As for all in one pricing, I stand corrected.  They made an all-in-one NCSoft time card you could use on any one of their games.
[16:56] <downix> they need all-in-one.
[16:56] <downix> then again, I only play CoH
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> downix ahh.. Ok.. Heck I cant even find Pricing on the games. :)
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> Guess i wont be doing any of them for a while.
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> I got the Lifetime  Membership for LOTROnline. so i will be with it for a while. :)
[17:07] <downix> I tried it, the thing ate so much HD space and RAM I was turned off.  Then seeing the game in action, felt too limiting.
[17:07] <downix> But, if you like it, good for ya
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> I need a game i can sit and play and relax. :)
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Or i just hang on IRC>
[17:08] <downix> wide world of choices out there, bound to be something that fits right.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> all these idiots at work keep going back to 'evercrack' :)
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> When a guy plays 5 characters by himself... somting is wrong with a game. :)
[17:09]  * RurouniJones retreated back into single player games
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> SwordOftheNewWorld is a neat game. (free also)
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> A bit like Diablo2/some others out
[17:10] <RurouniJones> The problemwith MMO"RPGs" is that there is no rpg
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> People that think a Game is 'doing somthing constructive' and not just enterainment. :)
[17:10] <console_jockey> have kubuntu gutsy installed. attempting to load noatun and getting "Connecting/starting aRts soundserver failed.  Make sure that artsd is configured properly".  Not sure what I need to do to configure aRts
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> !info noatrun
[17:10] <ubotu> Package noatrun does not exist in gutsy
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> !info noatun
[17:10] <ubotu> noatun: media player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2608 kB, installed size 6624 kB
[17:10] <RurouniJones> Dr_Willis: There was an MMO where you were in Egyt and had to build the pyramids I think
[17:11] <RurouniJones> The entire community was geared towards that one goal
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> RurouniJones 'a tale in the dessert' :)
[17:11] <RurouniJones> Aye, sounds like a relaxer to me.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Then ya got SecondLife (free also) linux client also! GPL'd client also! :)
[17:11] <RurouniJones> and (Feel free to laugh), one more likely to draw the cerebral crowd
[17:11] <RurouniJones> Tale in the Desert, not SL
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> Untill you see that Everyone in SecondLife is doing CyberSex S/M
[17:13] <RurouniJones> SL, haven of the damned
[17:13] <console_jockey> Dr_Willis: I've installed noatun with apt-get install kdemultimedia and it's set as my default player for audio files, but I'm still getting the aRts error.  Just wondering if anyone else has had problems iwth Arts and if there was a resource.
[17:13] <RurouniJones> Interesting experiment, but way too freeform
[17:13] <console_jockey> !info arts
[17:13] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[17:14] <svetec> How do I start compiz fusion in Kubuntu 7.10 after installing kde compiz from repo?
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[17:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:14] <jhutchins> console_jockey: Point noatun at alsa.
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> use the compiz --replace command.
[17:14] <svetec> Thanks ^^
[17:14] <RurouniJones> mmm, new laptop should be arriving tomorrow, got the Gutsy CD ready to go.
[17:14] <jhutchins> It says something that noatun is using a sound system that's years out of date.
[17:14] <console_jockey> jhutchins: ok, that makes sense.  I'm just not clear how to configure arts
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> jhutchins i was just thinking that also..  :)
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> arts is old... alsa is the new way.
[17:16] <console_jockey> ok, so points arts to alsa makes sense, but how?
[17:16] <RurouniJones> Is installing on encryped patitions supported in the standard live CD or do I need the alternative one?
[17:16] <console_jockey> RurouniJones: I've seen it as an option on the alternate install
[17:16] <console_jockey> !info alsa
[17:16] <ubotu> Package alsa does not exist in gutsy
[17:16] <RurouniJones> hmm, maybe I need to download that then
[17:17] <jhutchins> console_jockey: Should be a setting within noatun to use alsa instead of arts.
[17:18] <jhutchins> !find alsa
[17:18] <ubotu> Found: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 37 others)
[17:19] <jhutchins> alsa is supposed to do automatic arts emulation for legacy programs, but it often fails.
[17:19] <console_jockey> jhutchins: sadly, when I run noatun I get the aforementioned error and no option to configure it
[17:20] <jhutchins> I recommend xmms and mplayer instead.
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> i like that bmpx player
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !info bmpx
[17:20] <ubotu> bmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.40.0~rc3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2999 kB, installed size 9264 kB
[17:20] <jhutchins> Trying to fix bonehead software just isn't worth it when there are so many good alternatives.
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> Songbird is nice also. Not in the repos however.
[17:20] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Indeed
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> !find songbird
[17:21] <ubotu> Package/file songbird does not exist in gutsy
[17:24] <olsta> hi
[17:24] <olsta> can i upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[17:24] <Q-collective> yes
[17:24] <ksivaji> !upgrade
[17:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:25] <olsta> thanks
[17:25] <Q-collective> although just reinstalling might be faster and less error prone
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> i agtree with Q-collective
[17:25] <olsta> ok its better to reinstall?
[17:25] <Q-collective> olsta: if you have your /home on a seperate partition, then sure
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> It avoides any potential upgrade issues
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> and it cleans out the cruft :)
[17:26] <console_jockey> what's needed to play back DVD video in kaffeine?
[17:27] <ardchoille> I reinstall my OS every 30 days. Of course it only requires that I actually be in front of the computer for a total of 5 minutes thanks to bash scripts :)
[17:28] <console_jockey> I've installed libdvdcss2 but no dice.
[17:28] <bazhang> console_jockey: couple of ways--one is to enable the repositories at medibuntu.org, the other is to download the single package
[17:30] <console_jockey> bazhang: I've enabled the medibuntu repos and updated my local apt db.  I've installed w32codecs and libdecss2, but kaffeine still tells me "couldn't find demuc for x"...
[17:30] <RurouniJones> Anyone done the install-time encryption with Gutsy?
[17:30] <bazhang> console_jockey: that's odd.  let me check my set up
[17:31] <console_jockey> bazhang: thank you.  The message actually states xine: couldn't find demux for x" followed by "xine: found input plugin: file input plugin".  I've just installed xine-plugins, but...
[17:31] <ksivaji> i know nickname of a person who is on line now . how can i catch him
[17:32] <bazhang> it's libxine1-ffmpeg I beleive
[17:32] <bazhang> err believe
[17:33] <bazhang> ksivaji: in this channel?
[17:33] <ksivaji> bazhang no
[17:35] <console_jockey> bazhang: checking into that now.
[17:36] <bazhang> console_jockey: if that's not it I can look further
[17:37] <console_jockey> bazhang: I'll let you know.  It's a new install, so there are bound to be issues to resolve.  I've of course resolved them all with the previous install, so I know there has to be a fix... just have to play
[17:38] <bazhang> console_jockey: good luck with that give a holler if you need help (for others to help that is haha)
[17:39] <ScorpKing> console_jockey: i just got here. what is wrong?
[17:39] <console_jockey> ScorpKing: just looking to enable playback in kaffeine for dvd.  Have new install of gutsy and need to work out library dependancies.
[17:41] <console_jockey> ScorpKing: bazhang helped me out.  Just needed the libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:41] <ScorpKing> console_jockey: i think that is part of the win32 restricted modules/libs.
[17:41] <bazhang> cool
[17:41] <ScorpKing> oh ok. ;)
[17:41] <Vermux> how do I change tabs with with the keyboard using Firefox?
[17:43] <Vermux> how do I switch tabs with with the keyboard on Firefox?
[17:44] <bazhang> Vermux: under advanced settings clcik use keyboard to switch windows (not really Kubuntu question though :} )
[17:44] <ScorpKing> Vermux: control+pgup/down
[17:44] <TimS> What the official way to update from 7.04 to 7.10?
[17:45] <ScorpKing> !upgrade
[17:45] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:45] <bazhang> TimS: fresh install or through dist-upgrade?
[17:45] <TimS> Dist-upgade
[17:45] <TimS> I would like to keep my stuff :P
[17:45] <bazhang> haha
[17:46] <ScorpKing> TimS: make a seperate /home patririon next time. :P
[17:47] <ScorpKing> partition*
[17:47] <TimS> Whats the likely hood it will create poroblems and loose things like nvidia drivers and compiz settings? :P
[17:47] <Tm_T> !fi | tiina
[17:47] <ubotu> tiina: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[17:47] <TimS> ScorpKing: Yeah, I should really :P
[17:47] <Vermux> bazhang: I dont c this option under Preferences>Advanced
[17:47] <ScorpKing> TimS: it will save you LOADS of trouble. ;)
[17:47] <Vermux> bazhang: where is it?
[17:48] <bazhang> Vermux: under general
[17:48] <bazhang> advanced--general
[17:49] <TimS> Is there a turoial anywhere on how to switch back to Konqueror as a file manager instead of dolphin?
[17:49] <Vermux> bazhang: there is nothing there with the word Keyboard
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> !dolphin
[17:49] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> its easy TimS :)
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> see the bot factoid above
[17:50] <TimS> :D
[17:50] <TimS> Thanks
[17:50] <TimS> D3lphin is awefull in my opinion
[17:50] <bazhang> Vermux: cursor keys?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> TimS i agree
[17:53] <Vermux> bazhang: thanks
[17:53] <Vermux> ScorpKing: thanks
[17:53] <bazhang> Vermux: no problem
[17:53] <kris_> hallo there
[17:54] <bazhang> hi kris_
[17:54] <ScorpKing> Vermux: you're welcome
[17:55] <kris_> thanks, just startet this irc thing to check out whats up here ;)
[17:56] <ScorpKing> kris_: not much today. ;)
[17:57] <kris_> i see that, normaly i speek german, but english is not that problem, qtm im working on my kubuntu, used gentoo a while ago, maybe i check around the other day, got to do a litle work ;) and this client is working, which is good to know :D see ya
[18:01] <TimS> I cant see the dis upgrade button :(
[18:01] <TimS> I have update my sources 3 times and it always gets kinda slow at the end, which is odd, but takes for ever on 99%
[18:01] <TimS> Anyway, theres no dist upgrade button
[18:07] <vge> TimS: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[18:07] <vge> sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:07] <vge> TimS: from : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[18:08] <Vermux> how do I change permissions so I could cp a file?
[18:09] <vge> sudo cp
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> or chmod +r the file
[18:10] <asfak> i have found a great way to communication. www.tringme.com but unfortunately playback is supported through quicktime only. (i think that are gsm files). How do i play them embedded in firefox or konqueror. help greatly needed.
[18:11] <Vermux> Dr_Willis: chmod changes permamently the permission so I can copy a certain file without having to type sudo everytime I want to cp the file?
[18:11] <Q-collective> Vermux: if you can read a file, you should be able to cp it
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Vermux thats how permissions work. :)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Linux fundamentals. check out a 'chmod' tutorial or 2 online it explaines it all and how the #'s work and what mode do what.
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Unlike the Lame way Windows handles file permissions.. Linux actually makes USE of them. in a useable fashion
[18:12] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:12] <Vermux> Dr_Willis: the chmod +r dowsnt work
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> whatever promted MS to make all files copied from a cdrom drive 'read only' i will never know.. THEN it really dosent even make them read only
[18:13] <Vermux> Q-collective: I can read the file but cant cp
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Vermux if you are Not the owner of the file. You can change that also.
[18:13] <vge> sudo chmod works ofcos :)
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Vermux   'ls -l filename' see what permissions/ownershp of the file is
[18:13] <ScorpKing> Vermux: chown you:you file or chown you:you -R dir/ to change them all
[18:14] <Vermux> Dr_Willis: Im the owner
[18:14] <Vermux> Dr_Willis: also: rwxr
[18:15] <ScorpKing> Vermux: do you own the place where you want to copy it to?
[18:15] <Vermux> ScorpKing: no
[18:15] <ScorpKing> hehe. have write permission there?
[18:16] <thomax__> anyone in here who know when kubuntu packages of KDE4 beta 4 will be available?
[18:16] <Vermux> ScorpKing: yes, have -rw
[18:16] <ScorpKing> thomax__: they usually announce that on www.kubuntu.org
[18:17] <thomax__> ScorpKing: yeah I know, but nothing to be found there, and the beta4 has been reseased some time now, so I was wondering why there are no packages yet
[18:17] <ScorpKing> Vermux: you must own it or others must have -rw on the dir to be able to copy to it
[18:19] <Vermux> ScorpKing: the directory that I want to cp the file to has rw permission
[18:19] <eagles0513875> guys i have a question is there any wifi manager in kubuntu that allows for tkip
[18:19] <savetheWorld> does anyone  know if DNSmasq can be installed and used (for local DNS caching) on a system which has a static IP without causing problems?
[18:19] <eagles0513875> cuz my school uses tkip and for some reason with 2 wifi utils i have they wont allow for tkip
[18:20] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: tkip?
[18:20] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: ya
[18:20] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: whats that, if you dont mind my asking?
[18:20] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I tried also to cp the file to a directory that I own, and cannot cp
[18:20] <ScorpKing> Vermux: if you don't own it it should be -rw-rw-rw
[18:20] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: give me a min
[18:21] <bazhang> tkip is a wpa protocol
[18:21] <coreymon77> ah
[18:21] <coreymon77> wpa
[18:21] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: encryption protocol
[18:21] <coreymon77> fun
[18:21] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: sorry, no clue
[18:21] <bazhang> eagles0513875: do you need a gui--can be done via the command line you know
[18:21] <coreymon77> !tkip
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tkip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:21] <eagles0513875> bazhang: how
[18:22] <ScorpKing> knetworkmanager and wpa don't seem to like each other too much.
[18:22] <Vermux> ScorpKing: O own both and it doesnt cp
[18:22] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i noticed that
[18:22] <ScorpKing> i use wifi-radar for wpa
[18:22] <thomax__> is there a way to mount a hibernated windows partition?
[18:22] <coreymon77> knetworkmanager doesnt seem to like anything too much
[18:22] <eagles0513875> lol unless ur wired
[18:22] <ScorpKing> Vermux: 0 is root
[18:22] <coreymon77> its an extremely buggy software
[18:22] <eagles0513875> when im wired i dont have issues
[18:22] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: ya, but then youre wired
[18:23] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: laptop?
[18:23] <eagles0513875> ya
[18:23] <thomax__> coreymon77: use wicd
[18:23] <Vermux> ScorpKing: ? I dont c 0
[18:23] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: the only way that seems to work is if you connect wpa with cli
[18:23] <eagles0513875> cant connect to an unsecured wifi netowrks on that or kwifimanager
[18:23] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: whats the point of a wired laptop, you loose the portability
[18:23] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: at home i am wired
[18:24] <coreymon77> thomax__: i use kwifimanager, plus in have an atheros card and wep
[18:24] <eagles0513875> im here in europ and where i am houses r made of stone quite hard to get wifi to work
[18:24] <eagles0513875> i have a bcm4306
[18:24] <ScorpKing> Vermux: run sudo chown you:you -R /dir on the directory you want to copy to.
[18:24] <coreymon77> thomax__: so no problems
[18:24] <thomax__> coreymon77: add this to /etc/apt/sources.lst
[18:24] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: i have bcm43xx as well
[18:24] <thomax__> deb http://wicd.longren.org feisty extras
[18:24] <coreymon77> thomax__: im not the one with the problem
[18:24] <thomax__> lol
[18:24] <thomax__> sry
[18:24] <coreymon77> thomax__: wifi works perfect with me
[18:24] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:24] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: secured or unsecured
[18:25] <coreymon77> bell just rang
[18:25] <coreymon77> class time
[18:25] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:25] <coreymon77> eagles0513875: wep
[18:25] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i cant wait to head back to us lol to try my wifi at home
[18:25] <eagles0513875> coreymon77: ahhh ok
[18:25] <coreymon77> ill be back later
[18:25] <coreymon77> during my spare
[18:25] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: it works for me. just a bit slow.
[18:26] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i could bypass my internal card and go for pcmcia
[18:26] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: i think you will have the same problem
[18:26] <eagles0513875> which i have its a compack flash 802.11b one that somehow also functions as g that has a converter to pcmcia
[18:26] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: i didnt have any issues in feisty or edgy it worked out of the box
[18:27] <Vermux> ScorpKing: the file that I want to cp has the following:-rwxr--r-- 1
[18:27] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: lol. i'm still on feisty
[18:27] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: im on gutsy
[18:27] <Vermux> ScorpKing: chown: cannot access `/dir': No such file or directory
[18:27] <eagles0513875> 32 bit or 64bit im on the 64bit
[18:27] <eagles0513875> was also on 64bit on feisty
[18:27] <ScorpKing> Vermux: and the destination directory? where do you want to copy it to?
[18:27] <bazhang> eagles0513875: have you tried wicd?
[18:28] <ScorpKing> !find wicd
[18:28] <ubotu> Package/file wicd does not exist in gutsy
[18:28] <thomax__> eagles0513875: deb http://wicd.longren.org feisty extras add this to /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:28] <ScorpKing> :)
[18:28] <thomax__> eagles0513875: "deb http://wicd.longren.org feisty extras" add this to /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:28] <Vermux> ScorpKing: now it works
[18:28] <eagles0513875> thomax__: im on gutsy
[18:28] <Vermux> ScorpKing: what was it that command (chown)?
[18:29] <eagles0513875> bazhang: whats wicd
[18:29] <ScorpKing> Vermux: what was the problem?
[18:29] <eagles0513875> !wicd
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <eagles0513875> !info wicd
[18:29] <ubotu> Package wicd does not exist in gutsy
[18:29] <thomax__> eagles0513875: and then "sudo apt-get install wicd", doest mather that you are on gutsy
[18:29] <thomax__> eagles0513875: it will work
[18:29] <eagles0513875> thomax__:  ok
[18:29] <ScorpKing> Vermux: chown will change the file/dirs so you own them.
[18:29] <Vermux> ScorpKing: the destination directory has -rw-r--r-- 1
[18:29] <thomax__> eagles0513875: I'm on gutsy myself
[18:29] <Vermux> ScorpKing: have no idea
[18:29] <eagles0513875> what im scared of is breaking something cuz i didnt even download gutsy and burn it
[18:29] <ScorpKing> hehe. ok
[18:30] <Vermux> ScorpKing: but I owned both
[18:30] <eagles0513875> i did a total distupgrade from feisty
[18:30] <thomax__> eagles0513875: me to
[18:30] <Toph> i am new to kubuntu gutsy and am unable to install any programs with adept,, for instance, xchat won't install
[18:30] <ScorpKing> Vermux: as long as it works now. ;)
[18:30] <Toph> any suggestions?
[18:30] <lascar> can someone show me how to install .m4a support?
[18:31] <Toph> apt-get doesn't work either
[18:31] <Vermux> ScorpKing: I swear, I owned both of them and it didnt work
[18:31] <ScorpKing> haha
[18:32] <eagles0513875> !m4a
[18:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:32] <eagles0513875> what is wicd
[18:33] <Vermux> ScorpKing: also, it doesnt prompt me even though I added the .bashrc file alias cp = 'cp -i -v'
[18:33] <eagles0513875> nm answered my own question
[18:33] <ScorpKing> lascar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-b2ef05b7fc6ca533d0412652487931518c723924
[18:33] <MagicCow> I think they should name the next installment of Ubuntu "Magic Cow"
[18:33] <lascar> eagles, i forgot about ubotu; thanx.
[18:34] <eagles0513875> lascar: no prob
[18:34] <MagicCow> Or maybe Psychotic Gopher.
[18:34] <eagles0513875> bazhang: does wicd allow for tkip encryption on wpa
[18:34] <eagles0513875> im getting a dpkg error
[18:34] <eagles0513875> i need to remove knetwork manager
[18:34] <Dream_Coder> right i have installed kubuntu set everything up now what..
[18:34] <Dream_Coder> lol
[18:35] <eagles0513875> if i do how will i manage my wired network
[18:35] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: have fun enjoy it
[18:35] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: u want to download some games for it
[18:35] <Dream_Coder> grr cant my graphics card is 64mb shared onboard lol crap thing
[18:35] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: mine isnt much better
[18:35] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: is ur open gl working
[18:36] <Dream_Coder> havent tried
[18:36] <Dream_Coder> games dont intrest me much i use my  360 for that
[18:36] <thomax__> eagles0513875: allow it to uninstall the packages it want
[18:36] <Dream_Coder> i switched from SuSE
[18:36] <eagles0513875> thomax__: how will i manage my wired network if i dont have knetworkmanager
[18:36] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: open up the shell
[18:36] <thomax__> eagles0513875: with wicd
[18:36] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: type glxinfo
[18:36] <eagles0513875> thomax__: it manages wired too
[18:37] <lascar> when i enabled the restricted nvidia driver for my geforce 6800 and rebooted, kubuntu hung for a while and gave me konsole only.  I had to boot into safe mode and start the xserver manually.  Why is that, and how can I fully use my card?
[18:37] <thomax__> eagles0513875: you'll see it's a magnificant piece of software
[18:37] <Vermux> ScorpKing: editing the .bashrc file as root wont change it to other users?
[18:37] <bazhang> eagles0513875: no idea--just a suggestion
[18:37] <eagles0513875> bazhang: ill try it out
[18:37] <ScorpKing> Vermux: no. not if it already exists
[18:37] <Toph> eagles0513875,, are you running xchat as a chat client?
[18:38] <Dream_Coder> eagles >-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43434/
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> lascar odd - that card should be ver well supported. Mine works fine.
[18:38] <eagles0513875> Toph: no konversation
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> lascar could use the 'startx' command when it dosent work and see what sort of errors it gives
[18:38] <Toph> eagles0513875,, ok,, i'll try it
[18:38] <lascar> Dr_Willis: hey!
[18:38] <lascar> ah, i did and forgot to write it down
[18:38] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: ur open gl is enabled take a look at this site
[18:38] <eagles0513875> !games | Dream_Coder
[18:38] <ubotu> Dream_Coder: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[18:39] <Dream_Coder> think i might start to learn python or C++
[18:40] <lascar> Dr_Willis: when you say "very well supported", are you including 3d acceleration?
[18:40] <TimS> I am trying to update but it gets to file 133 then every now and then recalcualtes how many files its done
[18:40] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: python is a gd place if u wanna help dev kubuntu
[18:40] <Dream_Coder> okie
[18:40] <eagles0513875> i love katapult
[18:40] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[18:40] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:40] <Dream_Coder> I did visual b on windows when i used that so something new wont hurt
[18:40] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: they have some pretty sweet games
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> lascar yes. 3d support for that card has been around for ages.
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> lascar ive used that card on my linux box. for a few years :)
[18:41] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: u know what katapult does
[18:41] <lascar> oh.
[18:41] <Dream_Coder> nope
[18:41] <Dream_Coder> shots soemthing somewhere?
[18:41] <Dream_Coder> lol
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> You Do mean the 6800    Not the 8600 ?
[18:41] <eagles0513875> guys if i remove knetworkmanager it will breka some dependencies
[18:42] <lascar> Dr_Willis: i knew of that, but i got similar problems in previous editions of kubuntu.  In versions like Dapper or Hoary, I'd have to edit the xorg config file
[18:42]  * Dr_Willis is annoyed there is a new 8800 comming out that would of been cheaper for me then this one i got now. :)
[18:42] <eagles0513875> lascar: same with my card which is only 2 yrs old in edgy and feisty but now in gutsy its changed
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> lascar odd. My 6800 has been  a total breeze.
[18:42] <eagles0513875> then again mine is an ati
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> lascar normally i just run the 'restricted-manager' tool and let it do the work.. reboot.. its done.
[18:43] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: for learning C++ - http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
[18:43] <eagles0513875> how do i make sure that when removing knetworkmanager it also removes its dependencies
[18:43] <thomax__> eagles0513875: no it will not
[18:43] <nacho__> hi good afternoon
[18:43] <eagles0513875> without breaking anything
[18:43] <nacho__> i have a question
[18:43] <bazhang> hi
[18:43] <eagles0513875> thomax__: i was goign to remove it from adept manager
[18:43] <Dream_Coder> thanks
[18:43] <lascar> Dr_Willis: i'll give it a shot.
[18:43] <thomax__> eagles0513875: just do "sudo apt-get install wicd" and answer yes to all questions
[18:43] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: and install kdevelop. ;)
[18:44] <lascar> is that what should always be done?
[18:44] <lascar> wait, nm
[18:44] <eagles0513875> thomax__: i get a dpkg error
[18:44] <thomax__> eagles0513875: it will work the dependencies out for you
[18:44] <thomax__> give error
[18:44] <eagles0513875> ok
[18:44] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[18:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:44] <lascar> dr_willis: can't one just enable it from kcontrol?
[18:45] <thomax__> lascar: yes
[18:45] <eagles0513875> thomax__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43435/
[18:45] <lascar> and "restricted-manager" is just the konsole version?
[18:45] <thomax__> eagles0513875: can you give me all the output it gives when doing apt-get
[18:46] <thomax__> or is that all?
[18:46] <jarmo> moi
[18:46] <eagles0513875> ok
[18:47] <Erix> hi
[18:47] <pag> !fi | jarmo
[18:47] <ubotu> jarmo: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[18:47] <Dream_Coder> best pyhton ide also?
[18:47] <Dream_Coder> python**
[18:47] <eagles0513875> thomax__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43437/
[18:47] <eagles0513875> !python
[18:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:47] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: there is a python ide called eric if ur interested
[18:48] <Dream_Coder> ok will installl that too
[18:48] <thomax__> eagles0513875: hmm thats one piece of bizar error code :/
[18:49] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:49] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: do you use apt-get, dpkg or aptitude?
[18:49] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: in command line apt-get install
[18:50] <Dream_Coder> whats better the synaptic or the default add remove adept?
[18:50] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: ?
[18:50] <thomax__> eagles0513875: try with synaptic?
[18:50] <eagles0513875> thomax__: dont have it installed do i have to alter the source list
[18:50] <JakubS> i wonder my firefox had useragent set to msie 6.0 on win xp. i don't remember ever changing it
[18:50] <thomax__> eagles0513875: no
[18:50] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: i just removed knetworkmanager and network-manager with aptitude without problems
[18:50] <Dream_Coder> doesnt matter been using both anyway
[18:50] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: u on 32bit
[18:51] <Dream_Coder> lol
[18:51] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: oh
[18:51] <ScorpKing> yes
[18:51] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: im wondering since im using 64bit if this is just a 64bit issue
[18:51] <thomax__> ScorpKing: whats the big difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[18:51] <eagles0513875> ill be back lter guys time for dinner and som rr
[18:51] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: ok.
[18:52] <lascar> late
[18:52] <ScorpKing> thomax__: i'm not sure. i've just always used aptitude and apt when i had to. not sure what's the difference.
[18:53] <Dream_Coder> can some one also be so kind and tell what the best ebook or site is to start python thanks
[18:53] <eagles0513875> before i go im quite suprised how they rnt releasing alot of updated stuff like they did after feisty came out
[18:53] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: google dive into python
[18:53] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: its free and open source too lol
[18:53] <nacho__> What are the minimum requirements to install ubuntu?
[18:53] <Dream_Coder> ok got it thanks
[18:53] <eagles0513875> no prob
[18:53] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: http://www.diveintopython.org/
[18:54] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:54] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing: thanks
[18:54] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: ty. i didn't know about it. ;)
[18:54] <eagles0513875> no prob
[18:55] <Dream_Coder> well theres a few weeks or learning :P lol do me until i get my second xbox 360 lol
[18:55] <eagles0513875> found this out from a professor i know back in the states
[18:55] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:55] <nacho__> What are the minimum requirements to install kubuntu?
[18:55] <ScorpKing> nacho__: i have 7.04 running on 440Mhz with 256MB ram.
[18:55] <eagles0513875> Dream_Coder: lol right now im in the middle of learning java at college as part of my degree
[18:55] <eagles0513875> when i get some time ill dive into python myself
[18:55] <Dream_Coder> thats what i wanted to do a degree in software engineering but then came kids...
[18:56] <eagles0513875> ScorpKing | Dream_Coder either of u guys interested in an online book for kernel developing
[18:56] <eagles0513875> im doing a bsc in computing and information systems
[18:56] <Dream_Coder> yea can do
[18:56] <ScorpKing> eagles0513875: sure
[18:56] <eagles0513875> u guys remind me when i get back right now i need food lol
[18:56] <eagles0513875> brb
[18:56] <francesco_> hi
[18:56] <eagles0513875> !hi
[18:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[18:56] <francesco_> tanks
[18:56] <Dream_Coder> i did btec national diploma, nvq level 2 and 3 in computing, A+, and starting linux + and network + next year
[18:57] <francesco_> i have a problem
[18:57] <Dream_Coder> i wish i was at uni though but lik ei said no funds when i have children
[18:57] <ScorpKing> nacho__: you will have to use the alternate install cd if the computer has les then 320MB RAM.
[18:57] <francesco_> someone speak italian?
[18:57] <ScorpKing> !it
[18:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:58] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: i'm busy learning c++ now. want to start coding kde and other linux apps. ;)
[18:59] <thomax__> ScorpKing: have fun learning qt, no easy shit
[19:00] <ScorpKing> thomax__: easy is boring. :P and please whatch your lanuage in here
[19:00] <Dream_Coder> i know of a few programs i need that would be good if could be ported to linux but they rely on .net at the minute thats the only reason i have to constantly go bk to windows
[19:00] <thomax__> ScorpKing: ooh please, not like there are 12 year old hanging round here
[19:01] <ScorpKing> true..
[19:01] <ScorpKing> !ohmy
[19:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[19:01] <Dream_Coder> mainly.. to do with 360 firmware modding, and backing up 360 games...
[19:01] <thomax__> btw, i didn't know shit was an offencive word, just a synonym for excrement :p
[19:02] <eeanm> this (work) computer is running Ubuntu. how do I add KDE to the GDM list?
[19:02] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: motorola v360? is there a decent program for linux for that?
[19:02] <savetheWorld> thomax__: you are culturally deficient, not an uncomon failing among geeks
[19:02] <eeanm> I already have kdesktop and such installed
[19:02] <savetheWorld> "us geeks" :)
[19:02] <ScorpKing> lol
[19:03] <Dream_Coder> motorola v360?
[19:03] <Dream_Coder> whats that
[19:03] <thomax__> savetheWorld: ah well, if people wanne come here, they'll have to live with it
[19:03] <Dream_Coder> a mobile?
[19:03] <ScorpKing> yeah
[19:03] <savetheWorld> thomax__: no the ydont. the channel rules is the the channels rules. :)
[19:03] <Dream_Coder> oh i think there is a few, bu ti was on about the xbox 360 :P
[19:03] <ScorpKing> oh i see. lol
[19:04] <thomax__> savetheWorld: yeah, i know, just being contrairy (don't know if this is the right expression, not a native english speaker over here)
[19:04] <Dream_Coder> i know i had my smasung g600 working with SuSE
[19:04] <Dream_Coder> and that is a very new phone
[19:04] <Dream_Coder> samsung*
[19:04] <savetheWorld> ist clsoe enough! :) contrary.  My typing is so bad that I cant score on spelling at all.
[19:04] <thomax__> ^^
[19:04] <savetheWorld> *close  ironic typo!
[19:05] <ScorpKing> Dream_Coder: lol. i'm talking about programming/modding the phone directly from the computer. ;)
[19:05] <Dream_Coder> lol
[19:05] <Dream_Coder> fair enough
[19:05] <thomax__> ScorpKing: start by writing some kernel modules then ;-)
[19:06] <ScorpKing> lol. i might when i have more usefull programming skills than pascal. :P
[19:06] <leon> es
[19:07] <leon> español
[19:07] <ScorpKing> !es
[19:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:07] <thomax__> ScorpKing: hmm, yes, you'll need a lot of C knowledge
[19:07] <BluesKaj> glad i don't have a cellphone ...prefer my privacy over asomething that takes it away ...and why should I pay for calls I don't make>
[19:07] <ScorpKing> thomax__: yeah, i've seen the code. ;)
[19:09] <Dream_Coder> right am off guys baby needs feeding byeee
[19:10] <parsnip> hi all
[19:10] <parsnip> can anyone hel pme with setting up some network config
[19:11] <parsnip> please
[19:11] <parsnip> ive got a modem on eth0 which is working
[19:12] <parsnip> and my wireless is detectable by an xp laptop
[19:12] <parsnip> xp laptop can ping my system
[19:12] <parsnip> but web browsing is no good
[19:13] <parsnip> im on a fresh install of gutsy
[19:15] <aunes> any idea how to see which process / service is operating on port 113?
[19:16] <parsnip> aunes: fuser -n tcp <port id>
[19:19] <affan> hi all... i am having trouble connecting to the internet thru my router.... altho if i connect my DSL modem directly i can connect fine... i just install Gutsy Kubuntu
[19:20] <|Alessandro|> Hi, i install wmvare and when i presss Power ON for running give me this error: Unable to change virtual machine power state: Cannot find a valid peer process to connect to.
[19:20] <aunes> parsnip: it doesn't return anything, but when I run ident2, it says something is already bound to port 113. Thoughts?
[19:21] <elliott> affan: That's something you would ask your ISP about.
[19:22] <affan> elliott: i disagree i am sorry... what does ISP have to do with it.... i can connect to the internet via the modem.... the network settings on Kubuntu are somehow messed up
[19:22] <parsnip> aunes: sorry, i just googled and found that
[19:22] <aunes> parsnip: ahh. gotcha. thanks anyway!
[19:24] <ScorpKing> affan: do you have ppp0 for internet?
[19:24] <affan> ScorpKing: ppp0? i think i do but why do i need that in this case?
[19:24] <|Alessandro|> i running kubuntu ! and i install wmvare! web i press POWER ON for running give me this error: Unable to change virtual machine power state: Cannot find a valid peer process to connect to.
[19:25] <affan> ScorpKing: i assume ppp0 means dialup?
[19:25] <TimS> How can I look and see which process are connecting to the internet
[19:25] <aunes> TimS: perhaps netstat -a?
[19:25] <aunes> - the ?
[19:25] <ScorpKing> wait guys. let me explain the problem.
[19:27] <pedahzur> Hey, anyone know when KDE 4 beta 4 (3.95 packages) will be available for Gutsy?
[19:28] <elliott> affan: I think it's something to do with going from router to DSL modem to the internet. The router isn't expecting the DSL modem and the DSL modem isn't expecting the router. I ended up having to call my ISP to get the same setup goingand that was on windows.
[19:28] <ScorpKing> when using dsl or any other kind of dailup that needs authentication from the computer it uses ppp for the connection. konqueror and other kde apps seems to have no internet. the problem seems to be with the default route....
[19:29] <affan> elliott: thanks for ur reply... i was able to connect just fine 30 minutes ago using feisty... just now i upgraged to Gutsy and it complained about restricted drivers etc.. which i think i installed but then it wouldnt connect thru the router...
[19:29] <jermain> hi everyone
[19:30] <ScorpKing> kde use the default route to connect to the internet. ppp has a different route. if a network connection on eth? is started before the ppp0 connection kde will have internet...
[19:31] <ScorpKing> eth? will then route through ppp0 and for some reason there will be internet. setting up eth0 manually seems to solve the problem.
[19:31] <jermain> quesstion: can i upgrade from feisty to gutsy or do i need to go for a clean install? I allready burned the gutsy cd
[19:31] <ScorpKing> affan: look at what i said. ^
[19:32] <pedahzur> jermain: You can upgrade, but there are special procedures for using the CD to do so.
[19:32] <yehudasun> HI
[19:33] <pedahzur> jermain: The easiest way is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[19:33] <jermain> pedahzur: can it be done from adept aswell?
[19:33] <jermain> ahh ty
[19:34] <timri> Hi all! I FINALLY found out why the tar:/ kio slave appeared to be behaving so badly!
[19:34] <pedahzur> jermain: That's what that URL lays out.
[19:34] <ScorpKing> timri: please share it with us. :P
[19:35] <timri> ScorpKing: The kubuntu-default-settings are borked up beyond recogniztion.
[19:35] <timri> ScorpKing: Just try a cat /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk/application/x-tar.desktop
[19:35] <ubuntu__> no puedo instalar mi kubuntu
[19:36] <ScorpKing> affan: there is a whole lot of settings being used in /etc/ppp/ when using some kind of dailup
[19:36] <lascar> exit
[19:37] <timri> ScorpKing: You will notice it ends abrubtly with "type=". And since kubuntu-default overrides /usr/share/mimelnk/* ...
[19:37] <ScorpKing> timri: this is on gusty right?
[19:37] <timri> ScorpKing: Yep.
[19:37] <ScorpKing> oh ok. i still use feisty.
[19:38] <sysop> I'm logged in as the only user, click on the KDE button, to Add/Remove Programs, it prompts for password, but I can't seem to add any programs to install.  What tiny/stupid thing am I overlooking?
[19:39] <timri> ScorpKing: The workaround is to copy the non-fouled up mimelnk dir to ~/.kde/share/mimelnk/
[19:39] <timri> ScorpKing: Because those settings override kubuntu-default :)
[19:39] <ScorpKing> i see. :D
[19:40] <timri> ScorpKing: Could work on Feisty as well. Will create a bugreport tomorrow or the day after that (WAY to tired no...  that issue was driving me bonkers)
[19:40] <ScorpKing> lol
[19:40] <timri> ScorpKing: s/no/now
[19:41] <BluesKaj> gnurph69, are you typing the app you want into the searchbar in adept ?
[19:42] <vbgunz_> anybody here know why my system (Gutsy) does not automatically search for updates any more? this is a fresh installation and I don't ever remember turning it off. in fact in Adept, I have update notification on I believe. why doesn't it work?
[19:42] <timri> vbgunz_: Wifi?
[19:42] <vbgunz_> timri: yeah
[19:42] <timri> vbgunz_: I think the autoupdater is a bit stupid: It doesnt seem to wait for a valid network connection.
[19:43] <vbgunz_> it always worked, just never in Gutsy :/
[19:43] <timri> vbgunz_: And since (if using networkmanager) it takes some time to validate....
[19:43] <DaSkreech> sysop ping
[19:43] <timri> vbgunz_: So you dont see the green "dot" in the notification area anymore (on login) ?
[19:43] <vbgunz_> I manually set up my wireless connection. that knetworkmanager applet never worked for me :/
[19:44] <vbgunz_> timri: nope never :(
[19:44] <DaSkreech> gnurph69: ping
[19:44] <vbgunz_> I just apt-get update and I see updates but do not see any green dot in the tray
[19:44] <vbgunz_> I've had many updates in which I manually checked for... it seems my updater is broken :(
[19:44] <BluesKaj> vbgunz_, there are very few updates available in gutsy AFAIK ...only had 5 at one time so far, and that was yesterday
[19:44] <timri> vbgunz_: Strange.
[19:45] <vbgunz_> i have 3 updates right now. I didn't upgrade to them with apt-get... usually, the green dot comes up when I apt-get update *but* it's not even showing now at all...
[19:46] <BluesKaj> vbgunz_, no, I mean the update notifier
[19:46] <timri> vbgunz_: A long shot: could you have hidden the icon in the notif. area?
[19:46] <vbgunz_> timri: just checked that, no :)
[19:46] <phnom> Okay, can someone please explain to me why i just recently lost my direct rendering? (I have an ati-card so i will understand if you don't want to touch it with a ten foot pole)
[19:46] <timri> vbgunz_: :)
[19:46] <eagles0513875> who wanted how to create a kernel website
[19:47] <vbgunz_> BluesKaj: the update notifier works for you?
[19:47] <parsnip> hi all, when i start downloads in firefox on gutsy i get this error chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.xul
[19:47] <phnom> I had it yesterday but today it's gone, and the computer haven't been touched all night :(
[19:47] <parsnip> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[19:47] <parsnip> for empty MIME type field.
[19:47] <eagles0513875> anyone interested in kernel development this might interest u
[19:47] <eagles0513875> http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
[19:48] <timri> eagles0513875: Cool, available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license.
[19:48] <eagles0513875> timri: if ur also insterested in python google dive into python
[19:48] <timri> eagles0513875: thx
[19:48] <eagles0513875> timri: no prob
[19:49] <_Angelus_> someone can tell me the program to convert from avi to iso on linux?
[19:49] <eagles0513875> _Angelus_: k3b makes isos
[19:49] <_Angelus_> eagles0513875: i wanna convert from AVI to ISO not MAKE an iso
[19:50] <eagles0513875> angelus have u checked in adept manager
[19:50] <eagles0513875> _Angelus_: let me check in adept manager for ya
[19:51] <_Angelus_> ok thanks
[19:53] <eagles0513875> _Angelus_: doesnt look like there is anything
[19:53] <parsnip> can anyone suggest a small form distro which can perform NAT / NAT to share a cable connection wirelessly
[19:53] <eagles0513875> !nat
[19:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:53] <eagles0513875> !info nat
[19:53] <ubotu> Package nat does not exist in gutsy
[19:53] <BluesKaj> !ISO
[19:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:53] <DaSkreech> smoothwall
[19:54] <Nyle> DaSkreech: hi
[19:54] <parsnip> DaSkreech: does it run samba for NAS aswell?
[19:55] <DaSkreech> parsnip: don't recall
[19:56] <timri> _Angelus_: Perhaps http://www.acetoneteam.org/central.html
[19:57] <parsnip> DaSkreech: cheers man i'll check it out
[19:57] <DaSkreech> Nyle: yo!
[19:59] <timri> _Angelus_: Package can be found at: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44805
[20:00] <eagles0513875> what does it take to develop or write a video card driver
[20:00] <BluesKaj> _Angelus_, growisofs will make ISO files
[20:01] <_Angelus_> BluesKaj:  is it a GUI one
[20:01] <BluesKaj> no , it's cli
[20:01] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: A compiler?
[20:01] <timri> _Angelus_: Did you try the links I gave you? (acetoneiso)
[20:01] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: what kinda compiler
[20:01] <dappermuis> eagles0513875, lots of time and effort - as well as a thorough understanding of how the hardware works
[20:01] <eagles0513875> damn
[20:01] <dappermuis> eagles0513875: and of course a good compiler :D
[20:02] <_Angelus_> timri: yeah im giving it a look
[20:02] <_Angelus_> sorry i wasn't here
[20:02] <eagles0513875> was goign to try develop a better driver for my cruddy ati card
[20:02] <dappermuis> eagles0513875: ha! i wish it were that easy
[20:02] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Either a set of schmeatics or the abilty to probe through memory with the mind of an engineer
[20:02] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Which cruddy one?
[20:02] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: ? what u mean
[20:02] <eagles0513875> ati radeon xpress 200m
[20:02] <BluesKaj> _Angelus_, just do 'man growisofs' in the konsole , it's a how to
[20:02] <dappermuis> DaSkreech, lets not forget about an understanding of some low level language
[20:02] <DaSkreech> I think the open source driver covers that
[20:03] <DaSkreech> dappermuis: Useless :)
[20:03] <eagles0513875> ya but for world of warcraft
[20:03] <_Angelus_> somebody had gave me an easy GUI converter last time
[20:03] <eagles0513875> even the colors on age of empires using wine rnt the greatest either
[20:06] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: ive left u speechless lol
[20:06] <timri> _Angelus_: k9copy ?
[20:06] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Attach yourself to the opensource team
[20:06] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: ?
[20:06] <DaSkreech>  you can give them info that will help them make a better driver
[20:06] <eagles0513875> what opensource team
[20:06] <eagles0513875> ati
[20:07] <eagles0513875> and where do i attach myself to
[20:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[20:07] <dappermuis> you know what would be great, a single dvd/video studio. sort of like Kontact, but with dvd authoring/ripping tools instead
[20:07] <_Angelus_> timri: no
[20:07] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: the Xorg team would be one place to start
[20:08] <eagles0513875> ok do they have their own irc channel
[20:08] <gnurph69> does VNC exist for kubuntu?
[20:08] <timri> _Angelus_: Google found this: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/System/Files/DVD/CDROM/1930/ (dont know that site, though)
[20:08] <eagles0513875> !vnc
[20:08] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[20:08] <_Rukus> hey guys
[20:08] <eagles0513875> gnurph69: try that link above
[20:08] <_Rukus> whats happenning
[20:08] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: #xorg
[20:09] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: just went in there
[20:10] <gnurph69> eagles0513875:  when I was using ubuntu, i could install from synaptic - but can't seem to install via KDE's Add\Remove Programs - doesn't seem to be an option.  any other way to do it other than via command line?
[20:10] <eagles0513875> gnurph69: u have to use adept manager
[20:10] <eagles0513875> gnurph69: that is what manages all the pkgs
[20:10] <eagles0513875> gnurph69: u could also use the command line options instead if u prefer and know the name of the pkg
[20:10] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: the room is dead lol
[20:11] <affan> hi all.... I am able to connect to the internet with manual IP configuration but not when I change that to DHCP in the network configuration... any ideas?
[20:11] <RedLizard> when booting kubuntu 7.10 on one of my secondary machines, the installer failes at 23% of the "copying files" step with an I/O error. dmesg reveales a shitload of squashfs errors (sb_bread failed reading some block, unable to read page, zlib_inflate errors), but no I/O errors (except for a missing floppy). the squashfs errors started before i started the installation (~15 seconds after the previous, unrelated kernel message). note that i ha
[20:11] <RedLizard> ubuntu 7.04, on the same machine. no other machines i installed kubuntu on ever gave me this problem. multiple cdroms (and cdrom drives) where tried, and memory has been tested (to no avail). notable hardware is an ATI graphics card (radeon 9200se), whereas all previous systems always contained nvidia graphics cards. does anyone recognise this problem?
[20:12]  * timri is going to make some coffee (any takers?)
[20:12] <henrik_> hej
[20:13] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: u wanting to do a clean install
[20:13] <eagles0513875> timri: ill take some
[20:13] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: or an upgrade
[20:13] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: a clean install
[20:14] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: is this happening once u hit start install option to start loading the live cd
[20:14] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: It has like 100 people in there
[20:14] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: squashfs errors begin before the installation
[20:14] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | RedLizard
[20:14] <ubotu> RedLizard: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[20:14] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: have u tried the alternate cd
[20:14] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: what did he say wrong and nobody is talking in there
[20:14] <DaSkreech> RedLizard: Your Cdrom drive probably doesn't like the brand of CD
[20:15] <DaSkreech> timri: make some for genii
[20:15] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: i did a few months ago, with kubuntu 7.04
[20:15] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Just ask how you can help out with the ati driver and state your vidcard
[20:16] <DaSkreech>  someone will resond in 5-7 working days
[20:16] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: a badblocks on /dev/cdrom produced zero errors
[20:16] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: did it work
[20:16] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: or u run into same issue
[20:16] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: also, the cd autotest found no errors
[20:16] <DaSkreech> RedLizard: Can it run other live CDs?
[20:16] <DaSkreech> RedLizard: ok that's funky
[20:16] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: same problem
[20:16] <soon> henrik ... DC fra SDU?
[20:16] <DaSkreech>  and memtest checked out?
[20:16] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: didn't test that
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Run a memtest on it
[20:16] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: let me try
[20:17] <DaSkreech>  that's the only other place squash can fail
[20:17] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: memtest found no problems
[20:17] <DaSkreech> You can't run a memtest that fast :-P
[20:17] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to write a pack for the image viewer Ksquirrel.  I've looked at a tutorial on the Ubuntu forums on how to write a pack.  Though the pack was built, it doesn't contain any files.  The sources can install as normal, using the "./configure", "make" , "make install" method, but it doesn't build properly.  Any ideas on how to fix that?
[20:17] <DaSkreech> it takes like an hour
[20:17] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: i tried it earlier
[20:17] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: he already ran it
[20:17] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: how old is ur hard drive on that machine
[20:17] <DaSkreech> Oh you are testing other Cds
[20:17] <DaSkreech>  ok :)
[20:17] <RedLizard> DaSkreech: the other two responses where about the "other-live-cds" suggestion
[20:18] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: brand new
[20:18] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: i also ran a badblocks -w on it
[20:18] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: ok how olds the cd drive
[20:18] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: old
[20:18] <eagles0513875>  RedLizard ok
[20:18] <DaSkreech> Ertain: try in #ubuntuforums as well
[20:18] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: how old
[20:18] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: but i replaced it
[20:18] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Which forum?
[20:18] <eagles0513875> ok
[20:18] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: without effect
[20:18] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: could be a motherboard problem
[20:18] <eagles0513875> if changing the cd drive and still with the same problem there is somethign wrong with the mother board
[20:19] <soon> DCC-chat is that the private chat?
[20:19] <Arwen> soon, no, that's different
[20:19] <Ertain> DaSkreech: it's under the "> Main Support Categories > x86 64-bit Users" forum.
[20:19] <ScorpKing> hi soon
[20:19] <Arwen> in this case, it's an attempted exploit
[20:19] <soon> How do I open a private chat then?
[20:19] <soon> hi ScorpKing
[20:20] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: is this the 32bit or 64bit ur tryiing to install
[20:20] <DaSkreech> soon: /msg user hello
[20:20] <DaSkreech> soon: ask before you do that
[20:20] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: 32bit
[20:20] <soon> thx
[20:20] <DaSkreech>  it's impolite to just mesage someone you don't knwo
[20:20] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: humm
[20:20] <soon> I know him well :-)
[20:20] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: how much ram is in there
[20:20] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: i will try a different livecd though
[20:20] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: 0.5GiB i think
[20:20] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: u mean 512mb 1 stick or 2 sticks of 256
[20:21] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: a single stick
[20:21] <soon> DaSckreech - that doesnt open a private chat though does it? Do I need to create a seperate channel?
[20:21] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: u have any spare ram around
[20:21] <DaSkreech> soon: It will
[20:21] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: good question
[20:21] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: let's find out
[20:21] <soon> okay - thx! (He's just slow to ansawer then :-)
[20:22] <Fulgrim> strigi is weird
[20:22] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: if u do try this take out that stick and replace it with another one and c if that stick that u replaced the one originally in there with works if it does then its bad ram
[20:22] <Fulgrim> i have this problem
[20:22] <eagles0513875> !ask
[20:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[20:23] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: working on it
[20:23] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: ok how old is the ram thats in there
[20:23] <soon> DaSckreech - how does my friend register his nick the first time on IRC?
[20:23] <eagles0513875> !register | soon
[20:23] <ubotu> soon: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[20:23] <eagles0513875> soon: :)
[20:23] <soon> thx
[20:23] <eagles0513875> no prob
[20:23] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: not sure, it's a box a received from someone at some point
[20:24] <DaSkreech> !register | soon
[20:24] <DaSkreech> Damn
[20:24] <profoX`> sMonk: how are you today
[20:24] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: what
[20:24] <soon> lol
[20:24] <DaSkreech> too slow
[20:24] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: what r the specs
[20:24] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: but the CPU's a P4 2.8GHz, so a couple of years i guess
[20:24] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech:  lol
[20:24] <profoX`> sMonk: I don't have much time today, but were you able to fix it already? (the vista partition)
[20:24] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: most likely socket 478
[20:24] <soon> fingers too fat for the keyboard DaSkreetch :-)
[20:24] <eagles0513875> ouch
[20:25] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: probably
[20:25] <soon> Are you alive henrik_ ??
[20:25] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: i dunno why i have a feeling its either a mobo issue or the ram
[20:25] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: it's a hyperthreading CPU, so that leaves a rather small timeframe
[20:25] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: i have  p4 2.6
[20:25] <DaSkreech> Fulgrim: It would help if we knew what the problem was
[20:25] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: i do: it's the default problem when you're otherwise unable to find anything ;)
[20:25] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: its dev socket 478 like mine which is with ht as well and uses pc3200 ddr400
[20:26] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: were u able to find any ram to test with
[20:28] <soon> hello henrik ... ?!?
[20:29] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: u know what i just realized
[20:30] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: well?
[20:30] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: im a hugenerd
[20:30] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: what u mean its the default problem when you're otherwise unable to find anything
[20:31] <soon> eagles0513875 ... so is hugenerd the persecuted religious minority Hugenotes or Huge Nerd ? :-)
[20:32] <eagles0513875> soon: huge nerd lol
[20:32] <soon> :-)
[20:32] <blizzzek> gn8
[20:32] <eagles0513875> night
[20:32] <eagles0513875> blizzzek:
[20:33] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: "what u mean its the default problem when you're otherwise unable to find anything" i mean that if you're unable to find any problems, but it still doesn't work, it's usually the ram or the motherboard
[20:33] <eagles0513875> that is why i said try another stick of ram to see then if its for certain the mother board cuz it could be just bad stick of ram
[20:33] <henrik_> hej
[20:34] <profoX`> why was the smooth scrolling in kopete removed from the contact list? was it a kubuntu or upstream kde decision?
[20:34] <profoX`> i would rather have smooth scrolling like that everywhere :) with an enable/disable option in kcontrol
[20:35] <emilsedgh> profoX`: upstream kde decision
[20:35] <emilsedgh> profoX`: it was using many power resources
[20:35] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: u think the processor is still good if the motherboard is bad
[20:36] <profoX`> emilsedgh: really? never noticed anything like that and I don't really have a powerful pc either
[20:36] <profoX`> why not make it an option instead of removing it then
[20:36] <emilsedgh> profoX`: it was very bad for laptops, was wasting battery
[20:37] <profoX`> emilsedgh: it can't possible matter that much, my CPU usage didn't really go up that much using the smooth scroll.. but still, an option would've been nice for those who really cared about that
[20:37] <emilsedgh> profoX`: well, i wanted an option for that too, but i prefer that goes to a widget style, to be enabled everywhere
[20:37] <eagles0513875> !upstream
[20:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstream - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:37] <eagles0513875> !info upstream
[20:37] <ubotu> Package upstream does not exist in gutsy
[20:37] <profoX`> emilsedgh: ahh yes that would indeed be the best thing in the long term
[20:37] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: room is dead again i let the room know that i have an ati radeon xpress 200m and ask to help test but no response
[20:38] <profoX`> emilsedgh: even though somethiing like that is not controlled by the kde style, but the scroll widgets should just have that as option, and definable in kcontrol
[20:38] <profoX`> but I'm in the wrong channel for that of course
[20:38] <Ertain> Hello once again, everyone.
[20:38] <emilsedgh> profoX`: domino widget style has such thing i think...but thats not smooth as kopete's
[20:38] <DaSkreech> profoX`: Upstream
[20:38] <DaSkreech>  it was waking the CPU every 1/2 second or something
[20:39] <profoX`> DaSkreech: aah yes, a lot of timers, thats true
[20:39] <profoX`> DaSkreech: but still, I really miss the darn thing :P
[20:39] <DaSkreech> profoX`: It will be rethought and brought back in KDE4
[20:39] <profoX`> emilsedgh: really? that would be a bit strange
[20:39] <DaSkreech>  eagles0513875 Why are you looking for upstream ? :)
[20:40] <emilsedgh> darkphader: really?! it will?
[20:40] <DaSkreech> Hi Ertain
[20:40] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: wondering what it does
[20:40] <emilsedgh> ah
[20:40] <profoX`> DaSkreech: only in kopete? it would be nice if it would be reworked as a global configurable option in kcontrol
[20:40] <emilsedgh> dasKreech: it will?
[20:40] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: they code the application
[20:40] <DaSkreech> profoX`: Yeah but Kopete was the offending app
[20:40] <eagles0513875> they code what app
[20:40] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Any app
[20:40] <eagles0513875> ahh
[20:40] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: upstream is the mother project for the application
[20:40] <Ertain> Still can't figure out why the files aren't included in my package.
[20:41] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: what langage do they do alot of programming in
[20:41] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: So Kubuntu can make changes in say Konqueror
[20:41] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[20:41] <profoX`> emilsedgh: interesting about domino.. i'll take a quick look at it
[20:41] <DaSkreech> It will change in Kubuntu but only Kubuntu
[20:41] <eagles0513875> profoX`: what language do u do alot of ur programming in
[20:41] <DaSkreech> Everytime they put out a new Konqui then kubuntu has to reapply the code
[20:42] <profoX`> eagles0513875: me? C++/Qt4, sometimes Python/Qt4
[20:42] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[20:42] <eagles0513875> profoX`: no java
[20:42] <DaSkreech>  if they sail the code upstream to the Konqueror project then all distros get the change and Kubuntu doesn't have to do it everytime
[20:42] <profoX`> eagles0513875: I do not like Java myself
[20:42] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Which package ?
[20:42] <profoX`> nothing but trouble, and it looks bad unless you use special libraries
[20:42] <profoX`> and I don't like the virtual machine system
[20:42] <eagles0513875> profoX`: what language do u think i should learn next after java
[20:42] <eagles0513875> profoX`: r u talking about the swing lib
[20:42] <profoX`> eagles0513875: no swing looks bad too
[20:43] <eagles0513875> profoX`: if not awt or swing then what
[20:43] <profoX`> i know there is something that offers a Gtk and/or Qt native style, or atleast I heard there was
[20:43] <profoX`> well, know, I think
[20:43] <eagles0513875> ill have to ask about that tomorrow cuz i have my 4 hr java lecture tomorrow
[20:43] <profoX`> i read it somewhere from a friend of mine who develops java
[20:44] <eagles0513875> profoX`: thats kool
[20:44] <Ertain> I'm trying to pack Ksquirrel-libs version 0.7.3 (for personal use).
[20:44] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i dunno why i have a real desire to develop a fully java os
[20:44] <DaSkreech> Ertain: repackage ?
[20:44] <profoX`> eagles0513875: C++ is a logical step up from Java though, and good if you want to develop for KDE :) because KDE consists out of C++ in combination with the Qt library for the most part
[20:44] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: don't they have one already?
[20:45] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: ya for embedded platforms i found and google has one for mobile devices
[20:45] <profoX`> some apps also Python/Qt.. Python is flexible and you don't have to compile stuff.. so it's rather nice too.. it's not as low level as C++ though
[20:45] <DaSkreech> What happened to Jos ?
[20:45] <eagles0513875> profoX`: is dive into python a good book to start with
[20:45] <profoX`> I have no idea
[20:45] <Ertain> No, I'm building it from the sources.  I couldn't find a Kubuntu package so I'm making my own.
[20:45] <profoX`> I'm not that good in Python myself actually
[20:45] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i have an idea that u might be able to help me with
[20:45] <profoX`> I just know my way around using the documentation, the reference pages and google :)
[20:46] <DaSkreech> Ertain: Right and what's the issue?
[20:46] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i have tried so many cluster os's and they r horrible. i would like to take kubuntu make it into one focused on cluster and ease of setting up a cluster as well as fully function os besides clustering
[20:47] <Ertain> Every time I build it with the command "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot", it builds but doesn't include the library files, just a couple of the document files.
[20:47] <profoX`> why do you think I could help with that
[20:47] <profoX`> :P
[20:47] <profoX`> that's way out of my league, I never tried stuff like that before
[20:47] <profoX`> would be an interesting project maybe, but I'm rather busy already, so I'll have to pass
[20:48] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i would help ya but u would help out with alot of the programming for sure
[20:48] <eagles0513875> profoX`: u have no idea about kernel dev do ya
[20:48] <profoX`> eagles0513875: not at all
[20:49] <DaSkreech> Ertain: You are trying to make your own ubuntu package /
[20:49] <DaSkreech> ?
[20:49] <profoX`> i tried to write a driver + userspace tool once for some special flash card device ;)
[20:49] <profoX`> didn''t really work out
[20:49] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: i sense C here as a nice next language to learn
[20:49] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: or c++
[20:49] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: Eh? Why don't you take a clustering OS and use that?
[20:49] <profoX`> C if you want to do kernel development yes
[20:49] <profoX`> C++ if you want to do KDE development
[20:49] <eagles0513875> profoX`: ok kool
[20:49] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: you can't learn c++ without learning C first
[20:49] <affan> hi all.... I am able to connect to the internet with manual IP configuration but not when I change that to DHCP in the network configuration... any ideas?
[20:49] <eagles0513875> profoX`: what bout pkg dev
[20:49] <profoX`> RedLizard: what's that ? that's not right at all
[20:50] <profoX`> RedLizard: of course you can..
[20:50] <eagles0513875> i was teaching myself visual c++ before i started java
[20:50] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: btw: update: known-good ram, same problem
[20:50] <eagles0513875> i never finished though
[20:50] <DaSkreech> affan: can you ping your gateway ?
[20:50] <RedLizard> profoX`: given that C is a subset of c++, learning c++ implies learning C
[20:50] <Ertain> Yes.  I can't find an Ubuntu package for Ksquirrel 0.7.3.
[20:50] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: then that comp is trash unless u want to fork out some money to buy a replacement mobo
[20:50] <profoX`> eagles0513875: package dev? what do you mean?
[20:50] <eagles0513875> package development and maintenence
[20:51] <profoX`> RedLizard: not really, if you learn C++ you will of course learn some C stuff too, but in itself you don't need to learn to program apps in C before you can program in C++
[20:51] <thomas_newbie__> is there a way i can sort files by their i-node?
[20:51] <DaSkreech> !packaging
[20:51] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[20:51] <DaSkreech> Ertain: ^^^
[20:51] <DaSkreech> First link should help
[20:51] <RedLizard> profoX`: i meant learning the core of c and what makes it different from other languages, not necessarily writing significant programs in it
[20:52] <eagles0513875> c and c++ as well as java are all object oriented programming no
[20:52] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: nah, i just needed a quick box for a quick project
[20:52] <profoX`> RedLizard: well, I beg to differ.. you can just as easily learn that in C++ :)
[20:52] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: ahhh ok i need a dev machine ovr here
[20:52] <eagles0513875> but taht i have to ship ovr with some of my own stuff when i go back in xmas
[20:52] <profoX`> you'll automatically learn some "core C stuff" of course, but a good C++ tutorial will make that transparent
[20:52] <thomas_newbie__> is there a way i can sort files by their i-node?
[20:53] <profoX`> (or book)
[20:53] <Ertain> Cool
[20:53] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: so... use vmware player for an instant dev machine ;)
[20:53]  * Ertain checks the guide.
[20:53] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: C isn't OO
[20:53] <thomas_newbie__> like in console
[20:54] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: im on a laptop lol
[20:54] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: and?
[20:54] <eagles0513875> performance on this thing isnt the greatest
[20:54] <eagles0513875> my desktop is more of a beast
[20:54] <eagles0513875> and for me its more java dev
[20:55] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: ls -i | sort
[20:55] <RedLizard> profoX`: yes, you have a point
[20:55] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: i can only ahve a max of 2gb of ram on my desktop besides being able to have a 64bit os i can have up to 8gb of pc3200
[20:56] <profoX`> RedLizard: well I talk from experience, I never really learned C myself.. :P
[20:56] <RedLizard> profoX`: well, that's a strong piece of evidence
[20:56] <profoX`> lol
[20:57] <profoX`> not really, but, well
[20:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[20:57] <eagles0513875> i love java but it pisses me off when im learning new stuff
[20:58] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: ok thanks, i tried it but I don't get why does it know to sort the i-nodes?
[20:58] <profoX`> eagles0513875: I love the Qt toolkit :)
[20:58] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: read the man for sort
[20:58] <profoX`> it is sooo flexible, and sooo cross-platform
[20:58] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: lol i did
[20:58] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: in a konqueror window type man:/sort
[20:59] <eagles0513875> profoX`: what is it
[20:59] <eagles0513875> profoX`: whats the name of the pkg
[20:59] <profoX`> eagles0513875: umm.. well.. libqt4-dev I guess, for the qt 4 development libraries
[21:00] <eagles0513875> profoX`: is there an ide
[21:00] <profoX`> eagles0513875: it's a library you can use in combination with C++ or Python, or even Java for that matter ;)
[21:00] <profoX`> so pick your own IDE
[21:00] <profoX`> I use KDevelop
[21:00] <eagles0513875> profoX`: really
[21:00] <eagles0513875> so just that lib and i can use it
[21:01] <profoX`> more or less
[21:01] <profoX`> find some documentation/guide
[21:01] <profoX`> :)
[21:01] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i think im goign to focus on java for the time being
[21:01] <eagles0513875> im actually struggling with drawing graphics like cubes and what not
[21:02] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: in 3d i assume?
[21:02] <profoX`> well, OpenGL is the only real option for that
[21:02] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: ya using coordinates
[21:02] <profoX`> how to implement it is another thing
[21:02] <eagles0513875> when it comes to me and drawing i wouldnt be able to draw anythign that would save my life
[21:02] <profoX`> you can use raw OpenGL or some libraries that does the work for you but is less advanced
[21:03] <eagles0513875> profoX`: not there yet lol
[21:03] <eagles0513875> proq
[21:03] <profoX`> Qt can do some nice simple animation stuff with OpenGL acceleration :)
[21:03] <eagles0513875> profoX`: i just need to learn what parts of the java code do what
[21:03] <profoX`> and it has a QGLWidget
[21:03] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: no, that's not enough
[21:03] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: ?
[21:03] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: you need to know quite a bit of theory to properly use 3d libraries
[21:03] <profoX`> although for real full 3D games you'll probably want to use something else than Qt
[21:03] <profoX`> (something like SDL + a good sound library + OpenGL)
[21:04] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: im making these 3 d shapes line by line
[21:05] <RedLizard> i'm afraid you won't get very far in 3d graphics without quite a bit of theoretic background
[21:10] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: i know i really wanna learn how to use blender
[21:10] <Romina> hi
[21:11] <ScorpKing> hiya Romina
[21:11] <eagles0513875> what does libraptor do
[21:11] <RedLizard> eagles0513875: well, that's a different story
[21:11] <eagles0513875> hi romina
[21:11] <dappermuis> hey ScorpKing, how goes? been a while
[21:11] <Romina> there is a development version of firefox available in the repositories
[21:11] <eagles0513875> RedLizard: my java course is broken up into 2 parts this is just the basics of java then next yr we do advanced topics
[21:11] <Romina> can you recommend using  firefox-3.0 ?
[21:11] <eagles0513875> Romina: there is firefox3 which if i saw correctly is dev
[21:11] <ScorpKing> hehe dappermuis. still good. :)
[21:11] <Romina> or is it better to stick to firefox 2.x ?
[21:12] <eagles0513875> Romina: i dunno im using stable 2.0.0.8
[21:12] <Romina> does someone stick to or stick with something?
[21:12] <eagles0513875> even though .9 is out
[21:12] <eagles0513875> Romina: i would use 3 but question is i dont know how stable it is
[21:12] <eagles0513875> i have to say its nice seeing the ladies getting involved:)
[21:12] <RedLizard> it's obviously unstable
[21:13] <profoX`> how can I get to know the UUID's of my partitions?
[21:13] <eagles0513875> profoX`: check the fstab
[21:14] <profoX`> eagles0513875: uuh no :) thats not what i mean
[21:14] <profoX`> but i found it
[21:14] <Romina> Thank you guys
[21:14] <eagles0513875> no prob
[21:14] <profoX`> vol_id -u
[21:14] <eagles0513875> thats what we r here for Romina
[21:14] <profoX`> thanks google
[21:14] <eagles0513875> lol
[21:14] <ScorpKing> profoX`: uuidgen
[21:14] <eagles0513875> a rule of thumb to remember
[21:14] <eagles0513875> google is ur friends and if its not broke dont fix it lol
[21:15] <vge> ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid will usually work
[21:16] <nchung_> !news
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <webvictim> does anyone know how to change the default volume that KDE uses? (the one that kmilo affects, so you can control it with your keyboard volume keys)
[21:16] <ScorpKing> heh. i see now that uuidgen makes a different one every time. i wonder why..
[21:16] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: They ahve loads of ways to learn blender
[21:17] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: ill have to google it but right now i dont have time
[21:17] <webvictim> by "volume" i do of course mean a particular slider on the volume control
[21:17] <eagles0513875> java is consuming my time
[21:17] <unperson> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu 7.4 (Feisty) and I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10 (Gusty).  I tried to follow the instructions on the official Ubuntu site, but on my computer I can't get adept to show a version upgrade button.
[21:17] <DaSkreech> !info libraptor
[21:17] <ubotu> Package libraptor does not exist in gutsy
[21:17] <eagles0513875> speaking of java i should be doing a rather long assignment for january to send up to london for a grade
[21:17] <unperson> Any ideas of how I can proceed?
[21:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> java :)
[21:17] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: im downloading hydrogen
[21:17] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Laptop: u know java
[21:17] <eagles0513875> or trying to DaSkreech
[21:17] <unperson> For reference, the instructions I'm referring to are here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:18] <DaSkreech> nchung_: What about news?
[21:18] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: Cause it's generating a UUId ? :) Which is Unique ?
[21:18] <unperson> I've added the recommended updates repository, closed and reloaded.  It shows no updates available.
[21:19] <DaSkreech> eagles0513875: the blender site has videos books and plain old docs
[21:19] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: that's what man uuidgen just told me. lol
[21:19] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech: really never found anything on there but ill have to look again i have no time
[21:19] <eagles0513875> not even to relax
[21:19] <DaSkreech> unperson: you have to update first
[21:19] <ubuntu> Man, I'm impressed with Kubuntu 7.10
[21:19] <ubuntu> It detected my video card, monitor, and my removeable media devices instantly.
[21:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> eagles0513875: i'm learning it
[21:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> first year course
[21:20] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Laptop: same here its part of my degree
[21:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> exactly
[21:20] <eagles0513875> mines broken up to 2 parts basics thsi yr and advanced topics next
[21:20] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Great
[21:20] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Laptop: where u studying
[21:20] <DarkLegacy> Administration > Software Sources. ; How do I get here in Kubuntu?
[21:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> purdue university
[21:20] <DaSkreech> !adept | DarkLegacy
[21:20] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[21:20] <DarkLegacy> Thanks
[21:21] <eagles0513875> im getting a dpkg error and its really pissing me off
[21:21] <eagles0513875> brb im going ot restart my computer
[21:21] <genii> !info kynaptic
[21:21] <ubotu> Package kynaptic does not exist in gutsy
[21:21] <genii> Hmm
[21:21] <eagles0513875> Daisuke_Laptop: im studying in the university of london system at goldsmiths
[21:21] <DaSkreech> genii: Thank good graces
[21:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii: that's a *good* thing
[21:21] <eagles0513875> actually im goign to restart this and then goign to watch tv and fall asleep in front of it
[21:21] <eagles0513875> night all
[21:22] <RedLizard> night
[21:22] <DaSkreech> night
[21:22] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[21:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:22] <DaSkreech> !info sdl
[21:22] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in gutsy
[21:23] <eagles0513875> how do i get rid of this error
[21:23] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43460/
[21:23] <eagles0513875> its really starting to piss me of
[21:23] <eagles0513875> how can i fix it
[21:23] <eagles0513875> actuall let me try a restart
[21:23] <eagles0513875> brb
[21:24] <unperson> DaSkreech: Adept currently shows no updates available.
[21:24] <DarkLegacy>  Check the check boxes next to all the different repositories. Close the window. When prompted to, reload the repositories.
[21:24] <DarkLegacy> ^ What's this mean?
[21:24] <DarkLegacy> There's only install/remove/upgrade in Adept
[21:24] <DarkLegacy> Does it want me to install ALL the available packages?
[21:24] <unperson> DaSkreech: I.e., the "apply changes" and "full upgrade" buttons are grayed out.
[21:25] <Agent_bob> grub issue: i have linux on hda6 and M$ on hda5 grub boots linux just fine but when i select hda5 it errors with "Error 12: Inbalid device requested"   ???
[21:25] <genii> DaSkreech, Daisuke_Laptop, Just reading the Jucato blog, someone mentioned Kynaptic there. Got me thinking about some common frontend to the dpkg system for all *buntu
[21:26] <soon> Anyone here has any experience with JFFS - Journaled Flash File System?? Is it stable? Is it faster than ext3 (on my 16Gb corsair USB thingy)?
[21:26] <soon> unperson - have you enabled the necessary repositories?
[21:27] <Dream_Coder> anyone used Eric and followed the diveintopython guide?
[21:28] <thomax__> soon: no, but maybe google knows
[21:28] <soon> of course ... thomax_ - i just wanted some personal experiences :-)
[21:29] <soon> be back l8r
[21:30] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: how are you opening adept ?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> unperson: You did a Fetch Updates ?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> genii: You know me
[21:30] <DaSkreech> genii: on the basis of Kynaptic ALONE I went back to using Ubuntu
[21:30] <unperson> DaSkreech, soon: I have recommended updates enabled as per the instructions and have refreshed the listings from the repository.
[21:31] <DaSkreech> unperson: And you have no updates ?
[21:31] <unperson> DaSkreech: That's right.
[21:31] <DarkLegacy> hm
[21:31] <DarkLegacy> sudo apt-get install dmraid results in - couldn't find package dmraid
[21:31] <DarkLegacy> wtfness?
[21:32]  * genii ruminates
[21:32] <thomas_newbie__> when i try to delete stuff in console it gives me stuff like ^D, how do i delte?
[21:32] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ rm
[21:33] <WaltzingAlong> thomas_newbie__: which program? just konsole?
[21:33] <unperson> DaSkreech: Presumably that should have resulted in a lot of available upgrades?
[21:33] <unperson> DaSkreech: Er, updates.
[21:33] <DaSkreech> unperson: yes
[21:33] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: well I've logged into my schools unix server through my console
[21:33] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: so yes in console when i'm trying to delete a character
[21:34] <DaSkreech> unperson: sorry no
[21:34] <DaSkreech> unperson: Just checking :)
[21:34] <unperson> heh
[21:34] <DaSkreech> unperson: when you close it try this
[21:34] <ScorpKing> when i run sudo update-grub i get "Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ..." why?
[21:35] <WaltzingAlong> thomas_newbie__: ok so that depends on which 'terminal'; so try delete or backspace; also try different keyboards in settings
[21:35] <WaltzingAlong> ScorpKing: because none were found
[21:35] <Alarm> when loading icon themes. it loads all the icons in memory, or it loads them when they are used by each application ?
[21:35] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing cause you don't have usplash installed ?
[21:35] <ScorpKing> WaltzingAlong: lol. where can i find some? :P
[21:35] <WaltzingAlong> !usplash
[21:35] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[21:35] <ScorpKing> i want to install a custom usplash image
[21:36] <DaSkreech> alt+f2 -> kdesu adept_manager --version-upgrade
[21:36] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: yay it worked it was weird, I had to change it to solaris
[21:36] <WaltzingAlong> ScorpKing: ^^
[21:36] <ScorpKing> WaltzingAlong: i followed that link. i only get text and no image while booting.
[21:36] <DarkLegacy> What's the alternative of Synaptic to Kubuntu
[21:36] <DarkLegacy> Adept?
[21:37] <Agent_bob> repeting      grub issue: i have linux on hda6 and M$ on hda5 grub boots linux just fine but when i select hda5 it errors with "Error 12: Inbalid device requested"   ???     grub being the 'default' boot loader for this os i assumed that someone could help with that...
[21:37] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: shoot wait lol now it doesn't allow me to use cursor keys
[21:37] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: why does this happen?
[21:37] <WaltzingAlong> even with If your bootup is now black, try setting vga=788, not vga=785, some video cards may not do 640x480.
[21:37] <Goop2> I have a problem with games.. they turn off seconds after turning them on
[21:37] <ScorpKing> WaltzingAlong: if i put it back to the default usplash image it works again. i tried most of the VGA=? settings as well
[21:37] <WaltzingAlong> thomas_newbie__: konsole needs to send the key the server is expecting
[21:38] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: ohhh
[21:38] <thomas_newbie__> WaltzingAlong: so that could be anything
[21:38] <DarkLegacy> Oh, I see what the universe repository was
[21:38] <DarkLegacy> All community files
[21:38]  * red says hello
[21:38] <pault> goop2: yes, same here with the gl games
[21:38] <WaltzingAlong> thomas_newbie__: so the terminal settings should match or you maybe could map keys accordingly
[21:38] <ScorpKing> hello red
[21:39] <Agent_bob> a vidio card that wont do 640x480 is not a vidio card, it's a POS
[21:39] <Goop2> pault: fullscreen?
[21:40] <ScorpKing> ok i'm ganna reboot and test the usplash settings. brb
[21:40] <pault> no windowed or full
[21:40] <unperson> DaSkreech: I think that almost works, but it takes the option as for kdesu not the command.
[21:40] <DaSkreech> Doh
[21:40] <pault> *no, windowed or full* :)
[21:40] <unperson> DaSkreech: I can never quite figure out how to do the syntax properly for options with sudo.
[21:40] <DaSkreech> alt+f2 -> kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[21:41] <Agent_bob> or kdesu -- whatever here --plus options
[21:41] <unperson> DaSkreech: Ah, here we go.  That looks good.
[21:41] <DaSkreech> !universe | DarkLegacy
[21:41] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:42] <Agent_bob> no help on grub ehh ?
[21:42] <unperson> DaSkreech: Thanks.  I'm going to close all these apps and give this a shot.
[21:42] <unperson> Later.
[21:42] <Goop2> pault: Hmm.. I looked and the one Im trying doesnt say anything about GL.. its weird.
[21:42] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: Inbalid huh?
[21:43] <Agent_bob> ?
[21:43] <Agent_bob> grub issue: i have linux on hda6 and M$ on hda5 grub boots linux just fine but when i select hda5 it errors with "Error 12: Invalid device requested"   ???
[21:43] <pault> goop2: i erred with saying gl games, it just happens with action games such as opena arena, oolite, doom, etc
[21:44] <MagicCow> Is there a way to configure ksudo in such a way that I don't have to keep entering passwords to modify any aspect of my system?
[21:44] <DarkLegacy> Yes! Now we are getting somewhere!
[21:44] <DarkLegacy> Gparted successfully detected my RAID-0 array!
[21:44] <DarkLegacy> :D :D :D
[21:44] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: Sounds like grub was set up wrong
[21:44] <pault> agent_bob: i can only think that there is no boot sector on hda5, but thatś a guess
[21:45] <Goop2> pault: found what I asume is a guitar hero knockoff, so I guess it sort of fits in that category.. I cant play it to find out though :\
[21:45] <Agent_bob> MagicCow sure,   you can make root jr. full root if you like.    but root jr. is already too permiscuess   imo
[21:45] <MagicCow> Why is it so dangerous to log in as root?
[21:46] <Goop2> pault: to think before I uped to gutsy I was playing RCT
[21:46] <Agent_bob> pault whouldn't happen to know the exact sector size and location would you ?     i could dd it from hda1 and make sure
[21:46] <DaSkreech> MagicCow: Sure easy
[21:47] <DaSkreech> MagicCow: Why would you want to? :)
[21:47] <MagicCow> I just get tired of entering my password on a constant basis.
[21:47] <Agent_bob> MagicCow because then you have windows and not linux   as far as security/antivirus/antimalware  goes
[21:47] <MagicCow> If I want to change my resolution than I should be able to without entering a pass.
[21:47] <pault> Agent_bob: no, I really don´t know how your set up. you could end up nuking your M$ (a pity?)
[21:47] <DarkLegacy> Ok guys
[21:47] <DarkLegacy> Partioning time
[21:47] <DarkLegacy> What is ext2?
[21:48] <DaSkreech> !ext2
[21:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:48] <DaSkreech> :-P
[21:48] <MagicCow> Agent_bob: I guess.. I just never had a problem with any of that stuff in windows.
[21:48] <DarkLegacy> I think I need ext3 for boot partition on Linux, and then linux-swap?
[21:48] <DaSkreech> MagicCow: You can setit up to have a timeout would that help?
[21:48] <pault> DarkLegacy: ext2 is the file system, superseded by ext3, which is journalled
[21:48] <Agent_bob> !virus > MagicCow
[21:48] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: You don't "need" but yes it's nice :)
[21:48] <DarkLegacy> So which is recommended for the boot partition?
[21:48] <DarkLegacy> Ext3?
[21:49] <DaSkreech> yup
[21:49] <DarkLegacy> Ok and for swap drive, linux-swap?
[21:49] <DarkLegacy> Is swap even needed with 2GB of ram?
[21:49] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: No but you can toss in a few hundred megs if you want
[21:50] <DarkLegacy> Ok, because I left very little space on my HDD for Linux
[21:50] <DarkLegacy> Somewhere around 11GB
[21:50] <pault> DarkLegacy: they used to recommend 2x to 3x your physical ram - ha ha
[21:50] <DarkLegacy> LOL
[21:50] <DarkLegacy> My swap in Win is 6GB
[21:50] <DarkLegacy> :(
[21:50] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: oooh that's close :)
[21:51] <DarkLegacy> Ok, so let's try
[21:51] <DarkLegacy> ext3 = 10 GB
[21:51] <DarkLegacy> linux_swap = 1 GB
[21:51] <DarkLegacy> Will that work?
[21:51] <pault> yes
[21:51] <Agent_bob> MagicCow adding your user to the  sudo(ers)  group will make it passwordless  as well as editing the sudoers file and making it say  %admin ALL=<blah> NOPASSWD:<blah>    the NOPASSWD makes it passwordless too
[21:52] <pault> DarkLegacy: my Kubuntu partition uses 6.7Gb after installing extra software
[21:52] <DarkLegacy> :(
[21:52] <Agent_bob> but again you should read about privledge seperation and the reason that linux doesn't have a virus problem     i think ubotu sent you a link
[21:52] <DarkLegacy> There
[21:52] <DarkLegacy> 10 GiB partition created, ext3
[21:53] <DarkLegacy> 1.52 GiB swap
[21:53] <DarkLegacy> Yeah, it just failed.
[21:54] <DarkLegacy> It doesn't say why
[21:54] <ScorpKing> i still get only text with usplash and i can't find the boot messages in the log files. any ideas?
[21:54] <genii> Agent_bob: in /etc/sudoers   <username>     ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL          instead of groupname like %admin will allow just that 1 username to operate without password auth for sudo.
[21:54] <DarkLegacy> "create new ext3 filesystem" failure
[21:54] <pault> DarkLegacy: try with a smaller swap partition?
[21:55] <DaSkreech> !info torcs feisty
[21:55] <ubotu> torcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 4424 kB, installed size 20976 kB
[21:55] <DarkLegacy> I'm trying to create just an ext3 partition
[21:55] <DarkLegacy> It is failing
[21:55] <Agent_bob> genii i wouldn't recommend : ALL     but yes
[21:55] <DarkLegacy> It created the blank 10 GB
[21:55] <DarkLegacy> But doesn't want to format to ext3
[21:55] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Woah 2 GB for swap ?
[21:55] <DarkLegacy> 1 gb
[21:56] <DarkLegacy> Why does it fail to format the drive?
[21:56] <Agent_bob> genii you might as well tell them to just set root login       it's no safer... ;/
[21:56] <sam1337> With lvm can I move a volume group from one hdd to another?
[21:57] <Agent_bob> thomas_newbie__ you'll have to ask in the channel,  i'm not regestered any more.
[21:57] <thomas_newbie__> :S
[21:57] <genii> Agent_bob: Ideally there would be a long list of cmnd_alias in there disallowing passwd vipw and some others of course.
[21:57] <DaSkreech> That's what I have and I'm ok except for strigi
[21:57] <DaSkreech> sam1337: yes
[21:58] <otto_> hi, just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, works great (much faster)! but have a question about konqueror
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> otto_: go ahead..
[21:58] <Agent_bob> genii yes, ideally :ALL would be replaced with : %user_commands    and that would expand into the long list  :)
[21:58] <otto_> it won't load any webpage!?
[21:59] <sam1337> "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" reports "Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I circumvent this?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> otto_: thats a problem with knetworkmanager
[21:59] <otto_> ok, should I disable it??
[21:59] <pault> DarkLegacy: itś  usually a two stage process to create a file system - create a linux partition, and then format it with a file system such as ext3
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> otto_: if you don't have wireless, yes
[22:00] <DarkLegacy> I see
[22:00] <DarkLegacy> Why does it fail to format it with the filesystem, however?
[22:00] <Agent_bob> heh.  my /etc/sudoers has only one line in it.       ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
[22:00] <sam1337> lol
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> :D
[22:00] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: Don't make faces in here!
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> thats dumb!
[22:00] <otto_> it works!
[22:00] <sam1337> You need to sort that out Agent_bob.
[22:01] <otto_> thanks for the quick help!!
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> otto_: yeah... its a known problem :(
[22:01] <DaSkreech> pault: A "linux" partition ?
[22:01] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim why ? only root can use sudo anyway,    nosuid system.
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: oh...lol :D
[22:01] <Agent_bob> :)
[22:02] <pault> DaScreech: yes, a linux partition, type number 83
[22:02] <Rukus-> hi when i type in ndiswrapper
[22:03] <pault> if you do fdisk -l as root, itĺl list your partitions and their types
[22:03] <Rukus-> err
[22:03] <Rukus-> when i type in sudo modprobe ndiswrapper it doesnt work
[22:03] <Rukus-> i already chcked if driver installed properly and it is
[22:04] <Rukus-> says it cannot find ndiswrapper.ko
[22:04] <nosrednaekim> otto_: do you see anything missing in kubuntu? any other problems?
[22:04] <pault> DarkLegacy: did you have to specify a mount point for the new filesystem?
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: how did you install ndiswrapper?
[22:05] <Agent_bob> pault sudo fdisk -l       or you may need to specify the device
[22:06] <Rukus-> i used adept manager
[22:06] <DarkLegacy> Ok so if
[22:06] <DarkLegacy> GParted creates the blank partitions
[22:06] <DarkLegacy> But fails to format them
[22:06] <DarkLegacy> Can't I simply use
[22:06] <DarkLegacy> mkfs to do it?
[22:06] <pault> Agent_bob: sudo su :)
[22:06] <Agent_bob> or sudo -i
[22:06] <Agent_bob> :)
[22:07] <pault> DarkLegacy: mke2fs -j /dev/h?? will make an ext3 partition
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: did you do this while running your current kernel?
[22:07] <Rukus-> umm... yes?
[22:07] <Rukus-> i dont know what u mean
[22:07] <sam1337> What type of lvm encryption does gutsy use?
[22:07] <Agent_bob> ok if bios is not reading the extenxed partition correctly then will that prevent grub from booting a logical drive within the extended partition ?
[22:07] <sam1337> is it dm-crypt?
[22:08] <pault> Agent_bob: i didnt know sudo -i, ta
[22:08] <Agent_bob> np
[22:09] <DarkLegacy> Yeah
[22:09] <DarkLegacy> It's a raid partition
[22:09] <DarkLegacy> So would it be
[22:09] <Agent_bob> pault it's the official ubuntu way to achieve root shell   FYI
[22:09] <DarkLegacy> mke2fs -j /dev/mapper/nvidia_bbefgidh7 (newest created) ?
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: sorry, I have to go..
[22:09] <Rukus-> oh
[22:09] <Rukus-> k thanks anyways i guess
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: look into compiling it yourself... it ussually works better than way, and you get a newer version
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Hmm
[22:10] <pault> DarkLegacy: if thatś the right partition, then your command is correct, but i know nothing about raid.
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Succesfully created me thinks
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Yes, it is correct
[22:10] <Rukus-> ok...
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Because I wrote down all of the paritions before
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> And this is the latest
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Just made with Gparte
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> Now let me check in gparted to see if it made it ext3
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> because it went through with the format
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> EXCELLENT!
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> IT WENT THROUGH!
[22:10] <DarkLegacy> You are a godsend
[22:11] <DarkLegacy> Now, what is the command to format with linux_swap?
[22:11] <Agent_bob> mkswap
[22:11] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: What's the issue?
[22:11] <DarkLegacy> mkswap
[22:11] <DarkLegacy> ?
[22:11] <DarkLegacy> mkswap adn then <device_name> ?
[22:11] <Agent_bob> yep
[22:12] <DarkLegacy> Swap set up succesfully
[22:12] <DarkLegacy> This is better and better, I'm getting a Raid-0 install of Kubuntu! :D
[22:12] <DarkLegacy> YES!
[22:12] <DarkLegacy> Gparted reports all operations successfully done!
[22:13] <Rukus-> i wanna make ndiswrapper work for my card. i cuirrently have the native driver installed if that makes any difference
[22:13] <Rukus-> i need some help
[22:13] <DarkLegacy> Ok guys
[22:13] <DarkLegacy> One ext3 partition
[22:13] <DarkLegacy> and one swap partition
[22:13] <DarkLegacy> Are good enough for a default Linux install, yes?
[22:14] <pault> DarkLegacy: you should be good to go.
[22:14] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Yep
[22:14] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Which card?
[22:14] <DarkLegacy> Nice
[22:14] <Rukus-> bnm
[22:14] <Rukus-> err
[22:14] <DarkLegacy> Ok, I'm going to run Kubuntu install now
[22:14] <Rukus-> bcm4318
[22:14] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Did you read the Wiki?
[22:15] <Rukus-> ya... i followed it
[22:15] <Rukus-> i dont get what i did wrong
[22:15] <Rukus-> ndiswrapper.kop was nt found
[22:15] <Rukus-> not
[22:15] <Rukus-> its also an amd64
[22:15] <Rukus-> sorry
[22:16] <Agent_bob> eeek!  testdisk reports Warning: Bad ending head (CHS and LBA don't match)    on all partitions....
[22:16] <DarkLegacy> Mount root file system = ext3, correct? :]
[22:16] <sMonk> Is anyone good at fixing MBRs?
[22:16] <Rukus-> and i cant find any wiki that focuses on gutsy specifically
[22:16] <pault> sMonk:  with a hammer?
[22:17] <pault> DarkLegacy: yes
[22:17] <sMonk> lol, no
[22:17] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[22:18] <Agent_bob> sMonk the mbr is 512bytes   if you have  a good mbr you can  dd if=good.mbr of=/dev/hda count=1      what are you rtying to do to your mbr ?
[22:19] <DarkLegacy> Hmm
[22:19] <DarkLegacy> We hit another brick wall
[22:19] <DarkLegacy> "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[22:19] <DarkLegacy> I just checked which one
[22:19] <DarkLegacy> I selected it and pushed next
[22:20] <pault> DarkLegacy: did that fix it?
[22:20] <DarkLegacy> no
[22:20] <DarkLegacy> wtf
[22:21] <sMonk> Here's my problem..  I was running Vista on a SATA 320gb drive, for some reason it installed it's MBR on my IDE 150gb drive, when I went to install Kubuntu I had a small over sight with GRUB (it erased vista's MBR) I thought, no problem, I poped in the Vista recover DVD and blammo, it cannot find the Hard drives, nor can it seem to fix the MBR (I tried the bootrec.exe /fixmbr and /fixboot) the /fixmbr says it worked then the
[22:21] <sMonk> /fixboot fails saying there is no drive.. then I can't boot linux, so I have to recover that.
[22:22] <sMonk> so now I'm stuck.. my wife want vista back... and I want my Kubuntu.. and for some dang reason I cant seem to trick GRUB into booting it.
[22:23] <DarkLegacy> Why does it keep saying no root file system is defined
[22:23] <DarkLegacy> I just picked the partition
[22:23] <Agent_bob> sMonk possable better help in ##windows     we might be able to fir grub for you.  but vesta    i wont even try.
[22:24] <pault> DarkLegacy: sMonk: you probably overwrote your grub boot mbr when you used vista bootrec.exe
[22:24] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[22:24] <DarkLegacy> I get it now
[22:24] <DarkLegacy> I need to set all of the previous partitions to dontuse
[22:25] <sMonk> yes.. and I fixed grub
[22:25] <sMonk> I re-installed it
[22:25] <sMonk> but I still can't boot Vista
[22:25] <DaSkreech> sMonk: recovery and then type fixboot
[22:26] <sMonk> fixboot fails
[22:26] <tuxwulf> Could be grub prob
[22:27] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[22:27] <DarkLegacy> Mount point is set to / for nvidia_bbefgidh7 (10GB Lin Part)
[22:27] <sMonk> I was wondering, I have about 5 diffrent "vista" boot menu.lst options wrote in and none of them work
[22:27] <DarkLegacy> Let's give it a roll and see if it works
[22:28] <pault> DarkLegacy: good luck :)
[22:28] <DarkLegacy> It accepted the partiton
[22:28] <DarkLegacy> :]
[22:28] <DarkLegacy> Now for entering details
[22:28] <DarkLegacy> AND HOPING IT WORKS
[22:29]  * DarkLegacy crosses fingers so tight they turn purple
[22:30] <BluesKaj> sMonk, kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , make sure your menu OS choices are uncommented
[22:30] <nintend0> hi
[22:31] <nintend0> does anyone know how to set another operating system as default in grub?
[22:31] <Felase> I'm having a problem with my Intel 3945ABG wireless adapter, some times it connects to my home network without a glitch, sometimes it will work after a while, sometimes not at all...
[22:32] <Agent_bob> nintend0 default=#  where the number is the number of the listing in the menu   starting with 0
[22:32] <nintend0> i dont know how to edit the list
[22:32] <nintend0> my kubuntu says there is no gedit command
[22:33] <Agent_bob> nintend0 kdesu kate /etc/grub/menu.lst
[22:33] <BluesKaj> nintend0, that's gnome editor , kate is the kde editor
[22:34] <nintend0> oh
[22:35] <sMonk> BlueKaj noting is commented
[22:35] <DarkLegacy> Back
[22:35] <DarkLegacy> Ready with me guys
[22:35] <DarkLegacy> The moment of truth approaches
[22:35] <nintend0> wait so what do i type in the konsole?
[22:36] <tuxwulf> I'd rather have a working lie than a non-working truth....
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> Man that scared the crap out of me
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> I hit install and my entire system went dark
[22:36] <shad__> nintend0, sudo nano /etc/grub/menu.lst
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> But it is installing!
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> So yay! :D
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> We'll undoubtly run into another problem
[22:36] <DarkLegacy> But that's what Linux is about, getting over obstacles and learning
[22:37] <nintend0> oh thanks
[22:37] <nintend0> just like mac
[22:37] <tuxwulf> DarkLegacy > That is not linux-specific....
[22:37] <tuxwulf> More computer-specific
[22:37] <DarkLegacy> Well it applies to many things, but usually things never go as smoothly as they should
[22:38] <DarkLegacy> 57% Install
[22:38] <tuxwulf> I'll agree with that...!
[22:38] <Felase> I'm having a problem with my Intel 3945ABG wireless adapter, some times it connects to my home network without a glitch, sometimes it will work after a while, sometimes not at all...
[22:39] <tuxwulf> Felase > YOu set that Intel up where ...?
[22:39] <nintend0> thanks shad_
[22:39] <DarkLegacy> Install: 68%
[22:40] <DarkLegacy> One small step for machine
[22:40] <DarkLegacy> One giant leap for mankind
[22:40] <Felase> tuxwulf: i didn't it set it self up, i just entered password
[22:41] <Felase> brb
[22:41] <DarkLegacy> Install: 78%
[22:41] <dappermuis> you know, i get the same problem as Felase
[22:41] <dappermuis> since gutsy upgrade
[22:42] <pault> gtg
[22:42] <Felase> back
[22:42] <Felase> tuxwulf: i didn't it set it self up, i just entered password
[22:42] <dappermuis> hey Felase, i've been experiencing the same problem as you
[22:43] <Felase> dappermuis: ok, found anything that helps?
[22:43] <tuxwulf> Felase > Eh .. what do you use to connect ...?
[22:43] <Felase> tuxwulf: knetworkmanager
[22:43] <DarkLegacy> OH GOD NO
[22:43] <DarkLegacy> No no no no >_<
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> 94% Install
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> "Executing grub-install (hd0) failed."
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> This is a FATAL error.
[22:44] <dappermuis> Felase, researching it now
[22:44] <Felase> dappermuis: cool, tell me if you find anything
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> Ok ok
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> Time to get around this
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> Brb
[22:44] <tuxwulf> Dark > What s your harddisk setup...?
[22:44] <DarkLegacy> RAID-0
[22:45] <DarkLegacy> I'll go read the Kubuntu pages
[22:45] <DarkLegacy> brb
[22:45] <tuxwulf> Felase > is that all, a password ...?
[22:45] <Felase> i think so yeah, it used to be a hidden SSID but I took that off, it's WEP encryption
[22:45] <Felase> tuxwulf: i think so yeah, it used to be a hidden SSID but I took that off, it's WEP encryption
[22:46] <tuxwulf> Felase > Can you comment out all lines regarding that 5ntel in /etc/netwok/interfaces, then reboot.
[22:47] <tuxwulf> Felase > After reboot, click knetworkmanager and choose "connect to a different network", enter the details.
[22:47] <tuxwulf> Felase > From then on, should be automatic.
[22:47] <Felase> tuxwulf: ok, thanks i'll try
[22:47] <tuxwulf> Felase > np
[22:48] <dappermuis> Felase, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/139832
[22:48] <Felase> dappermuis: ok
[22:48] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Are you using the live CD?
[22:51] <tuxwulf> Actualy I am also wondering how to get my RAID working....
[22:51] <DaSkreech> !raid
[22:51] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:52] <Felase> ubotu > paste
[22:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:53] <dappermuis> Felase, does that bug describe the problems you're having?
[22:53] <Felase> dappermuis: no, when i successfully connect i stay connected
[22:54] <Felase> dappermuis: it's trying to connect that's the problem
[22:54] <dappermuis> Felase, ah ok...for me sometimes I can connect and sometime I can't. When I can't i have to restart :/
[22:55] <Felase> dappermuis: usually i can connect after staying connected to the wired network for some time
[22:56] <dappermuis> Felase: hmmm, interesting - well there are definitely some bugs in the wireless code, since i had no problems in edgy nor in feisty
[22:57] <Felase> dappermuis: i'm still in feisty
[22:57] <DarkLegacy> Wow
[22:57] <DarkLegacy> I can't believe it
[22:57] <DarkLegacy> I manually installed Grub
[22:57] <DarkLegacy> I'm going to double-check everything and then hopefully reboot
[22:57] <Felase> dappermuis: brb, trying something
[22:57] <DarkLegacy> And if I didn't fuck up somewhere, my machine will still work
[22:57] <dappermuis> Felase, oh - thats a completely different case then
[22:57] <Felase> dappermuis: oh ok
[23:00] <francesco_> !it
[23:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:01] <DarkLegacy> Almost done cofiguring grub
[23:02] <hdevalence> How do I add an application to start every time I log in?
[23:04] <DaSkreech> !autostart | hdevalence
[23:04] <ubotu> hdevalence: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[23:04] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | DarkLegacy
[23:04] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[23:04] <tuxwulf> Anyone know how to prevent those Kopete msgs when someone changes status and etc ...?
[23:05] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Notifications I think
[23:05] <tuxwulf> DaSk > Yeah, I found that, but nothing I check or uncheck seems to work....
[23:06] <BluesKaj> hdevalence, kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart
[23:07] <TimS> Oh crap, I was updating and now it sais theres 7 hours to go, but I have to go out and I keep getting such as service could not be installed
[23:07] <tuxwulf> DaSk > Oh... THERE.. I thnk I  found it...
[23:09] <hdevalence> In the kcontrol module, it says : Run On [Startup|Shutdown|ENV]
[23:09] <hdevalence> what is ENV?
[23:09] <tuxwulf> DaSk> There is more than one  screen with notifications....
[23:10] <tuxwulf> DaSk > And they are called "Passive Windows", it sees...
[23:10] <hdevalence> I want to make sure katapult / yakuake / etc... are always running, but if I save a session and then log in again, will I get 2 instances of katapult?
[23:11] <DarkLegacy> Grub config done
[23:11] <DarkLegacy> Now, would I also need to install Nvidia drivers
[23:11] <DarkLegacy> Given that I've got an 8800GTS?
[23:11] <TimS> !info libslang2
[23:12] <ubotu> libslang2: The S-Lang programming library - runtime version. In component main, is required. Version 2.0.7-2 (gutsy), package size 416 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[23:12] <DarkLegacy> nvidia-glx-new ?
[23:12] <tuxwulf> DaSk > Thanks!
[23:12] <DarkLegacy> I'll install it for good measure
[23:13] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: got it/
[23:13] <DaSkreech> ?
[23:14] <DaSkreech> !tab | tuxwulf
[23:14] <ubotu> tuxwulf: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Ok here we go
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> RAID-0 Partitions created
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Formatted
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Kubuntu Installed
[23:14] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: no
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> GRUB configured to work with WinXP + RAID0
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Nvidia drivers installed
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> RAID drivers installed
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> I think we're all good
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Ok people, salut
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> I love you all
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> If I never come back
[23:14] <DarkLegacy> Place a stone in my memory somewhere.
[23:14]  * DaSkreech sheds a taer and Kries
[23:15] <Felase> How do i sudo i gui app?
[23:15] <TimS> How can I use a partition manager, probably one from a Knoppix live CD to take the /home and put it on a seperate partition, then Install Kubuntu onto a different one
[23:15] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | Felase
[23:15] <ubotu> Felase: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:15] <DaSkreech> TimS: how are you setup now ?
[23:16] <Felase> thx DaSkreech
[23:16] <TimS> DaSkreech: Well, I am on 7.04 all onb one partition, and Distribution Upgrader has just given up, so I think I'm done for, its borked
[23:17] <DaSkreech> TimS: Well you use gparted or qtpaerted (or parted) to make a partition large enough to hold /home and then mount it and move the data across
[23:17] <tuxwulf> ubotu > Yes, I a new here ... Not familiar with irc..Why are some msgs in red?
[23:17] <TimS> Da
[23:17] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Cause I said your name
[23:17] <TimS> DaSkreech: Can I do that in a live disk?
[23:17] <DaSkreech> no name
[23:17] <Felase> is there another way to connect to networks apart from knetworkmanager?
[23:17] <DaSkreech>  tuxwulf name
[23:17] <DaSkreech> no name
[23:17] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: name
[23:18] <DaSkreech> TimS: sure
[23:18] <tuxwulf> Ooooooh ... ok!
[23:18] <tuxwulf> Ah, hence the TAB shortcut...
[23:18] <DaSkreech> Felase: Kill knetworkmanger and normal kernel spavce drivers will take over
[23:18] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Yup
[23:18] <TimS> DaSkreech: I dont suppose there are instructions anywhere or if possible you could write some out, its just this PC is going down ina  couple of mins, SO ill loose everything
[23:18] <DarkLegacy> Guys
[23:18] <DarkLegacy> I freaking love you all.
[23:18] <DarkLegacy> It works.
[23:19] <DarkLegacy> I'm on Kubuntu right now.
[23:19] <DaSkreech> TimS: Do you know how to mount a drive ?
[23:19] <DarkLegacy> Dual booted, on a RAID-0 configuration.
[23:19] <DarkLegacy> YES!
[23:19] <DarkLegacy> GREAT SUCCESS!
[23:19] <TimS> Nope :(
[23:19] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: You left me Krying!
[23:19] <Rukus-> VERY NICE
[23:19] <DarkLegacy> :D
[23:19] <DaSkreech> TimS: What live Cd is it?
[23:19] <Rukus-> I LIKE
[23:19]  * DarkLegacy high-fives the entire room
[23:19] <TimS> DaSkreech: Probably Knoppix as it is most likely to have qparted
[23:20] <DaSkreech> TimS: which version ?
[23:20] <DarkLegacy> Ok, time to install Compiz :)
[23:20] <TimS> 5.10
[23:20] <Felase> DaSkreech: but if knetworkmanager isn't running, how do i start a connection in the console for instance
[23:20] <DaSkreech> !compiz | DarkLegacy
[23:20] <ubotu> DarkLegacy: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:20] <TimS> 5.1.1
[23:20] <DaSkreech> Felase: is it DHCP ?
[23:20] <DaSkreech> TimS: Ok should have a good irc client
[23:20] <Felase> DaSkreech: yes
[23:20] <TimS> :D
[23:20] <DaSkreech>  Just come online and join us back here
[23:21] <DaSkreech> TimS: You know how to do that?
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Felase: Should pick it up automatically
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Felase: If not then sudo dhclient from the command line
[23:21] <TimS> Okay, and When I install Kubuntu it will be able to talk to a preexisting Home directory and put new files in where needed and leave old files, like IRC logs where they are DaSkreech?
[23:21] <Felase> DaSkreech: what about wireless networks?
[23:21] <DaSkreech> TimS: yes
[23:21] <TimS> :D
[23:21] <wesley> is (k)ubuntu the only linux distro that shipas free cd,s?
[23:21] <TimS> I am happy now
[23:22] <DaSkreech> Felase: That's more of a non-front pain
[23:22] <DaSkreech> wesley: No check distrowatch
[23:22] <ardchoille> wesley: kubuntu and ubuntu
[23:22] <wesley> yes i meaned if there are that ships free and not of the ubuntu family
[23:23] <DaSkreech> What do you mean "ships" ?
[23:27] <crazy6> I was trying to play with some parameters in the SYstem Settings panel trying to get my laptop to work witha projector, but now that I reboot I can't get back to my super-high resolution (1920xsomething)
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> Hmmm
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> I did everything for Compiz
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> But!
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> I don't have XGL installed
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> Checking for XGL: not present
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> No whitelisted driver found
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> Oh, I didn't enable my nvidia driver
[23:28] <DarkLegacy> Makes sense
[23:29] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[23:29] <diomedes> crazy i found the display tool useless, i had to write my own xorg.conf to get my dual displays working correctly and with the right resolutions
[23:29] <DarkLegacy> How do I restart X server?
[23:29] <diomedes> if its not running just type startx from the shell
[23:29] <DarkLegacy> X is running, I need to restart it
[23:29] <ardchoille> DarkLegacy: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[23:29] <DarkLegacy> Log out and restart X?
[23:30] <diomedes> to restart you can log out and use restart x from kdm
[23:30] <DarkLegacy> Ok
[23:30] <diomedes> ctrl+alt+backspace as well
[23:30] <ardchoille> diomedes: That is not a safe alternative
[23:31] <diomedes> been doing it for 10 odd years seems safe enough to me :-)
[23:31] <ardchoille> !worksforme | diomedes
[23:31] <ubotu> diomedes: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:31] <joher> salut tout le monde
[23:31] <ardchoille> The clean way to restart x is: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[23:32] <joher> sorry,  hello
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> Hey guys
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> Something got REALLY screwed
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> I logged out
[23:33] <joher> ardchoille what is it kdm?
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> Had a black screen with orange lines and 1/4 and stuff
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> Then rebooted
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> And grub is now unable to mount my Kubuntu partition
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> I'm on the Windows partition ATM
[23:33] <DarkLegacy> WTF happened?
[23:33] <ardchoille> joher: kdm = Kde Display Manager
[23:34] <joher> ok
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> I didn't run ardchoilles command
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> I logged out after installing the Nvidia drivers
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> Why did it just render my partition useless?
[23:34] <lovre> hi all
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> Oh wait, I know
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> I think I messed with grub settings..
[23:34] <DarkLegacy> Hmm
[23:34] <joher> lovre hi
[23:35] <lovre> does any1 know if the problem with bookmarks and privileges in d3lphin has been solved? (Gutsy)
[23:35] <BluesKaj> DarkLegacy, sounds like you need to reconfigure X
[23:35] <DarkLegacy> Yeah, how do I do that
[23:35] <DarkLegacy> If it's unable to mount partition
[23:36] <lovre> my USB memory stick wont automount. Does any1 know how to fix this?
[23:37] <ardchoille> DarkLegacy: after installing the nvidia drivers, did you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:37] <BluesKaj> DarkLegacy, after grub boots up choose linux then, ctl+alt+F1 , then at the tty prompt : sudo dkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:38] <joher> have you ever heard about a bug in kubuntu that kills hard-drives on laptop??
[23:38] <diomedes> ardch maybe you should tell that to the people that write the docs for centos as I've seen it mentioned there a few times as well
[23:38] <diomedes> centos/kubuntu
[23:38] <ardchoille> diomedes: CentOS is a whole different distro.
[23:39] <wesley> where do you get the unofficial plugins for compiz fusion?
[23:39] <diomedes> also distro has sfa to do with it when they both run X and X has the functionality we're talking about
[23:40] <ardchoille> diomedes: The proper way is the command I gave. Arguing about it isn't going to change that. PErhaps this needs to go to an ot channel.
[23:41] <borat> what up wit it vanilla face
[23:41] <lovre> where to find kde 4 screenshots? google isnt my friend with this
 did you check the official web page?
[23:42] <maverick> !compiz
[23:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:44] <Rukus-> i did the same thing as a fellow did who was in here
[23:44] <Rukus-> i installed kubuntu and now i cannot boot XP
[23:44] <lovre> borat: there is only screenshots up to 3.5 version
i see now :(
[23:48] <alain10> is there a bug in the system monitor, every time i start it, it crashes  ?
[23:49] <moncho> hola necesito ayuda con evolution
[23:49] <moncho> tengo un problema y me tene desesperado
[23:50] <Dark> Yeah
[23:50] <Dark> I think that installing the nvidia-glx-new drivers fudged my kubuntu install
[23:50] <Dark> How to reconfigure X
[23:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Any ideas why kdelib's libkmid MidiPlayer component only plays the first note of a MIDI file (called from kmid) on x86_64 ?
[23:50] <moncho> algun voluntario????????????????
[23:53] <moncho> Hola alguien q me pueda ayudar con evolution???????????
[23:53] <ardchoille> !es | moncho
[23:53] <ubotu> moncho: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:53] <DaSkreech> diomedes: It works but doesn't do nice things like save open files etc
[23:53] <moncho> gracias
[23:54] <DaSkreech> joher: Kills hard drives?
[23:55] <DaSkreech> lovre: try planetkde.org
[23:55] <DaSkreech> !resolution | Dark
[23:55] <ubotu> Dark: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:57] <joher> do u know which runlevel lunch kubuntu
[23:58] <DarkLegacy> I don't know what I did
[23:58] <DarkLegacy> But I fixed it
[23:58] <DarkLegacy> X server is working
[23:59] <DarkLegacy> Compiz is working
[23:59] <DarkLegacy> I have NO idea how I did it
[23:59] <DarkLegacy> With absolute honesty
[23:59] <DaSkreech> joher: 2
[23:59] <Rukus-> is it possible to run a regedit program from within linux to edit the registry of a nonfunctioning windows xp partition?
[23:59] <joher> thanxx