[01:20] <boredandblogging> digg time: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_64
[01:38]  * johnc4510 digging :)
[01:46] <boredandblogging> Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo  does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN #64 is out! UWN #65 in progress, release TBA
[01:47] <boredandblogging> Vorian: thanks
[01:47] <Vorian> np boredandblogging :)
[21:32] <desertc> Full Circle is doing interesting things with their newsletter and upcoming podcast.  Are there other websites that have a rolling blog format on Ubuntu marketing topics?
[22:16] <boredandblogging> desertc: its something Burgundavia and I have talked about
[22:16] <boredandblogging> maybe doing something with the fridge
[22:17] <boredandblogging> maybe posting things and readng in feeds
[22:17] <Burgundavia> desertc: hmm?
[22:18] <desertc> Getting a rolling media source that is hyping the features of Ubuntu seems like a great idea.
[22:18] <Burgundavia> right
[22:18] <Burgundavia> turning the fridge into that is probably best
[22:19] <desertc> Well - the fridge can be rather dry and focused on team events.
[22:20] <desertc> It isn't what I would say is "hype"
[22:20] <Burgundavia> desertc: it depends on your goal
[22:20] <Burgundavia> news belongs on the fridge
[22:20] <Burgundavia> hype belongs on ubuntu.com
[22:20] <desertc> Oh, for sure.
[22:20] <Burgundavia> unless you have a specific campagin you want to run
[22:21] <desertc> But ubuntu.com is static.  Getting something that was updated regularly that excited people and encouraged them to check back and to subscribe to the message...
[22:21] <Burgundavia> then fix ubuntu.com
[22:21] <Burgundavia> don't fork it
[22:21] <desertc> That would be effective, I think.  Full circle is good, but hard to get excited about a PDF
[22:21] <desertc> Their podcast should have some good results.
[22:21] <desertc> Fix ubuntu.com ??
[22:22] <desertc> Not sure you're being realistic, at this moment.
[22:22] <Burgundavia> ok, then
[22:22] <Burgundavia> explain your vision for what this page needs?
[22:23] <desertc> I am asking what resources are around that fit into this idea of hype for Ubuntu.
[22:23] <desertc> I am not saying anything is broken, if that's what you think.
[22:23] <Burgundavia> the fridge and ubuntu.com
[22:23] <Burgundavia> as for official resources
[22:23] <Burgundavia> millions of pages that are unofficial
[22:23] <desertc> Well, I mentioned Full Circle, initially.
[22:24] <Burgundavia> full circle is not (yet) official
[22:24] <desertc> There are the screencasts...
[22:24] <desertc> Do you consider Mark Shuttleworth's blog official?
[22:24] <desertc> The weekly newsletter...
[22:25] <Burgundavia> the screencasts are a function of the doc team, not the marketing one
[22:25] <Burgundavia> the UWN is very much official, but is more news
[22:25] <Burgundavia> marks blog is mark
[22:25] <Burgundavia> mark's
[22:25] <desertc> Hmm...
[22:26] <desertc> Thanks for your thoughts on the subject.
[22:26] <Burgundavia> no worries
[22:26] <Burgundavia> I really do want to create such a page
[22:26] <Burgundavia> but the simple reality is that Ubuntu has plenty of hype
[22:26] <Burgundavia> what we actually need is more accurate sources
[22:28] <Burgundavia> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/31771_3709051_1 <-- here is a classic example
[22:28] <Burgundavia> we have plenty of people writing about us
[22:28] <Burgundavia> what we need to repsonses to such things
[22:29] <Burgundavia> to respond, rather
[22:34] <desertc> I do not think people respond to technical articles.
[22:35] <desertc> Sure, some do, but that doesn't really move people, especially not to check back for more information.
[22:35] <desertc> Marketing is about moving people on an emotional level, wouldn't you agree?
[22:35] <Burgundavia> I don't disagree
[22:35] <Burgundavia> we already do that quite handily
[22:35] <desertc> Examples?
[22:35] <Burgundavia> what I would like to see would be specific campaigns
[22:36] <Burgundavia> our whole "linux for human beings" is a great marketing line
[22:36] <desertc> That's just a line though...
[22:36]  * popey wakes at the mention of screencasts
[22:36] <Burgundavia> popey: do you have that set to flash your irc client?
[22:37] <popey> yes
[22:37] <Burgundavia> desertc: but the fact is, we make it more than a line
[22:37] <desertc> where?
[22:37] <Burgundavia> in the fact that we make Linux easy to use for the average user
[22:38] <desertc> popey: What are your thoughts about public screening for screencasts?
[22:38] <desertc> *your screencasts
[22:38] <popey> explain further
[22:38] <desertc> Would I be able to get permission to show a screencast at the beginning of a LUG meeting?
[22:39] <popey> the license says yes you can
[22:39] <popey> i cant stop you doing that
[22:39] <desertc> Could I include the videos on a DVD that I pass around to people, either at meetings or for business?
[22:39] <desertc> I will check the CC licenses again.
[22:39] <popey> so long as you adhere to the license you can do what you like with them
[22:39] <popey> cc-by-sa is the one you need
[22:40] <desertc> Do you put attribution in your screencasts, or how do you recommend I make those attributions?
[22:41] <popey> there is a slide at the front and end
[22:41] <desertc> Good enough.
[22:41] <popey> they are (c) the ubuntu screencast team
[22:42] <desertc> I can think of many uses for these little guys.
[22:42] <popey> excellent :)
[22:42] <desertc> I am going to be presenting to high school students soon.  It will be a nice intermission in speech.
[22:42] <desertc> *in my
[22:43] <desertc> Hmm --- public access television
[22:43] <desertc> :-)
[22:44] <somerville32> desertc, They're going to give you enough time to have an intermission?
[22:44] <desertc> I have to find out the details, but better to have too much material than too little.
[22:45] <desertc> For the after school clubs, definitely.