[00:28] nixternal: about? could you hide that fridge story for a while, it's unfinished [00:28] how much money do you have? [00:29] unpublished [00:29] hi Riddell, when is the first day you'll have time for a meeting? [00:30] thanks [00:30] we'd like to have one (kubuntu meeting) soon [00:31] mhb: any day except next weekend and monday [00:31] okay, thanks [00:32] mhb: I am open thursday and friday to an extent [00:32] anytime after 20:00 UTC [00:33] nixternal: hmm, it'll need some planning, and I guess we should agree on a date at least a week ahead [00:33] we could at least get the agenda rolling [00:34] nixternal: you can unhide the fridge story again [00:34] make it active now? [00:35] yes [00:35] published again :) [00:35] nixternal: so you're free every friday night? 16th as well? [00:36] yes [00:36] I am a luser with no friends :p [00:40] hurry up back mhb [00:40] I forgot my ssh password [00:42] nixternal: "this review, which her blog post Kubuntu Gutsy."?? [00:44] fixed..thanks [00:44] * nixternal wonders why Brian didn't catch that [00:44] mhb: can I ssh into the web svr to edit some css? [00:45] What happens when the adept upgrade manager cannot be verified [00:45] What failed? [00:45] mhb: what do you think about having just the front page show info about Kubuntu, and then in the right sidebar, add a news block that will read the /news page? [00:46] ooh a new website? [00:48] DaSkreech: upgrade to hardy? [00:48] gnomefreak: Sorry? No to Gutsy [00:48] is that even possible/ [00:48] upgrading to hardy [00:48] DaSkreech: ah not sure try restarting it [00:48] hobbsee is on hardy [00:49] jjesse: yes [00:49] gnomefreak: KK [00:49] jjesse: ill advised [00:49] thought hobsse was running ubuntu [00:49] * gnomefreak been on hardy since 1 day after repos opened [00:49] its no fun well a little bit [00:50] jjesse: You say that like ubuntu cannot be hardy :) [00:50] gnomefreak: Wait 4 weeks [00:50] more updates than you can shake a joystick at [00:50] DaSkreech: why X is already broke [00:50] or a pointy stick in some people's case [00:50] but i hear mike fixed it in apt [00:50] to hold back even on dist-upgrade (after i break mine [00:51] instead of kubuntu is what i ment [00:52] Yeah she is [00:56] The board had voted some time ago to buy the land, but was waiting for KDE’s approval before making the actual purchase. [00:56] :) [00:56] nixternal: why not [00:56] why not to which one? [00:56] nixternal: yes, you should be able to ssh into it and work on it ... [00:56] nixternal: if you can create a "sofisticated" news block, let's have it! [00:56] we need a module called "views"...it is way better than the stock taxonomy module with drupal [00:56] sophisticated, sorry [00:56] mhb: cool, I have created a million of them :) [00:57] actually, views does all the work for me, I just need to tweak the CSS to get them right, which is easy [00:57] do you have account on the site5? [00:57] yes [00:57] but I changed my password and ditched the notice :) [00:58] updating entities for kubuntu docs, what any idea what kernel is hardy? [00:58] jjesse: not yet on the kernel...I changed most of the ents last week [00:58] hmm oh ok [00:59] probably 2.6.23 [00:59] nixternal: I'm going to sleep now, if you have any trouble, either wait for me or ask ryanakca, he also should fix whatever is needed [00:59] he's got (working) access to it, too [00:59] OK, my password doesn't work ont he server, so I can change css [00:59] thought i had kubuntu-hardy all merged so i was curious [00:59] s/can/can't [00:59] hmm, lemme fix [01:00] set it to changeme or something silly [01:00] * ryanakca waves to nixternal [01:00] you could just grab my publich ssh key from lp, that would make it easy [01:00] * nixternal waves back [01:00] I am going to go watch chuck [01:00] * jjesse writes down nixternal's password as changeme [01:00] man, Poundcake just came on CaboWaboRadio [01:01] * ryanakca points to the TODO file in the branch [01:01] wadda? [01:01] CaboWaboRadio? how do you get that from Poundcake? [01:01] cabowaboradio.com for the baddest music in the world [01:01] Ah [01:01] nixternal: somethingsilly it is [01:01] badest = good? [01:01] cabowaboradio == sammy hagar's online radio station [01:01] * ryanakca likes BBC Radio 2 :D [01:02] mhb: thanks, I am in and changed it [01:02] ok...back in a few..time for a quick tv show [01:02] see you :) [01:09] nixternal: saw boud's blog? Popup priter manangement would be cool :) [01:11] it's planned for hardy [01:12] I plugged my friends camera in and it popped up Digikam [01:12] well the new hardware thing and had digikam highlighted [01:13] yes, not sure how he missed that [01:13] and yay, suse not doing work upstream [01:13] I haven't had a printer in oodles of time [01:33] man i'm tired today [01:33] morning Jucato... hope the cold boot is quick today [01:34] good evening jjesse! :) [01:34] nah I woke up 2 hours ago. well booted now :) [01:34] :) [01:34] (doesn't mean I'm sane though...) [01:34] hows the adept documetnation review going [01:34] you're leaving for .au this weekend? [01:34] wednesday [01:34] oooh tomorrow... (here) [01:35] wow yeah still haven't packed [01:35] uh oh :) [01:35] why not let the missus pack for you? :P [01:35] that will be tomorrow night [01:36] jjesse: http://jucato.org/kde/adeptguide.diff [01:37] as for content... well that's coming soon :P [01:37] ooo i like content [01:37] nixternal: What were you saying about canllaith ? [01:38] score card: -3 and +1 kde devs :) [01:38] I'm not used to reading in docbook so it takes a while :P [01:39] np [01:39] -3 to me? [01:39] nah. -3 kde devs... [01:40] 3 devs that have left or considered leaving their kubu systems :) [01:40] jjesse: this adept guide covers adept manager only, doesn't it? [01:40] Jucato: there should be one for adept manager, adept updater [01:41] * jjesse hopes his battery lasts a long time on the flight so i can work on the training guide an other documentation [01:42] jjesse: ah separate ones per app... ok... [01:43] Jucato: yeah [01:46] * jjesse afk [01:46] !away | jjesse [01:46] jjesse: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [01:46] lol sorry! just couldn't resist :D [01:47] Jucato: What did you do? [01:47] ^^^^^ [01:47] Jucato: Wow problems just cropped in in #kubunut since you logged in. [01:47] bah [01:47] #kubuntu [01:48] shall I log out? [01:48] Ha ha :) [01:48] irc lines wasted by jjesse: 1. By Jucato: 7 [01:48] No I'd prefer you with problems than games without [01:48] hehe :) [02:18] ryanakca: I will work on some of the TODO things now [02:18] nixternal: thanks :) [02:18] nixternal!!!!!!!! [02:18] if you have any questions, poke me :) [02:19] wasabi Jucato [02:20] cd 56 [02:21] cd .. [02:21] cd / [02:21] I'm in your root! [02:21] heh, I meant /window :) [02:22] hahah [02:23] bah, I can't make edits to the damn css on the server [02:23] and of course it isn't in english, but I understood the RED warning :) [02:23] ahh, because ryanakca has all of the power on those files [02:24] ryanakca: can you chmod the files in the themes dir on the server so people in the themers group can have write access [02:24] yep [02:25] wow, I have never messed with editing a website on a connection so sloooooooow before :) [02:26] thanks [02:26] Happy? [02:26] hehe, that's why I edit locally and then rsync ;) === _Paleo is now known as Paleo [02:34] image centered [02:36] ryanakca: can you add modules or no? [02:37] I don't think I can [02:37] or wait... yes. [02:38] bah, I didn't fix the image...stupid absolute positioning [02:38] Since I have admin privileges... where is it? [02:38] hehe... [02:38] ies4linux is your friend, btw [02:39] http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page [02:39] ya right, I would never install that on my box [02:40] I know people with IE6, they can test it for me [02:40] hehe, if you wish :) [02:40] * ryanakca yawns [02:40] don't you have admin privileges to drupal? [02:45] ya [02:45] but not to add a module [02:45] you would never install ies4linux... but would be ok with vista? :) [02:45] I don't know if I am 100% sold on this theme [02:45] Jucato: I would rather have virus laden software stuck in one location, and one location only [02:46] hehe :) [02:46] hm.. you can get virus from ies4linux? [02:46] but it isn't going to go on my linux box [02:47] :) [02:57] back [03:11] nixternal: drupal theme? [03:13] * ryanakca => bed [03:13] k'night ryanakca! [03:14] :) [03:14] nixternal: i ran ies4linux on my laptop to access work stuff and it worked fine [03:28] ??? [03:28] how can that happen [03:28] viruses wont work in lin [03:29] dang it [03:29] Jucato: can you email me the link for the adept diff? [03:29] and coreymon77 drops off mid-word as the virus takes him down [03:29] im on a mac [03:29] yuriy: i was short forming too [03:29] cultured virus! [03:29] jjesse: jjesse AT ubuntu DOT com [03:30] ah so you ahve that finder bug that is loosing data [03:30] Jucato: yes isr [03:30] sir [03:30] or the trojan that you can download [03:30] jjesse: why not just e-mail the diff to you, rather than just the link? :P [03:31] jjesse: sent!. now for lunch [03:37] ryanakca: check out the page if you are still up [03:48] whoooo go steelers! [03:48] Riddell, do we build playground/bindings/phpqt in kubuntu ? [03:48] heya seele [03:48] hmm.. perhaps i should cheer in a local channel :P [03:48] hallo kansas [03:48] :) [03:49] (came home after half time. drank a bith muchH) [03:49] hehe been there [03:49] mispells.. time to go offline befor i embarass myself [03:49] gnight :) [03:49] a bit late for riddell to be on, no? [03:50] it is , i normaly just wait N hours for a response [03:50] :) [03:50] ah hah [03:50] he is good about check hilights ( watch this time he wont heheh ) [03:50] checking* [03:51] nixternal: What about canllaith? [03:51] seele: what went down? [03:52] DaSkreech: it was35 nothing before baltimore got their act together and made a touchdown [03:52] 5 tunovers in the first half, 4 lost to pittsburgh [03:52] nice [03:52] yah [03:53] <-- from pittsburgh [03:53] WHOO GO STEELERS [03:53] * seele coughs [03:53] liek i said.. time for beds [03:53] * DaSkreech carries seele off [04:01] imbrandon: there's php qt?! [04:01] so jono gave me a book on python so watch out :) [04:01] Riddell, yea, heheh i love it [04:02] Riddell, i guess since none else love php as much as me though i'll package it hehe [04:02] its only php65 and only qt4 [04:02] s/65/5/g [04:02] but thats ok [04:03] i'm doing a svn checkout now [04:07] Riddell, uses smoke and kalyptus [04:07] so should stay updated easy === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian [05:27] ryanakca and mhb: quite a few changes to the site layout now - I am not 100% sold on the design at this time though [05:49] * Jucato sings nixternal a lullaby... [05:49] I need one [05:49] * nixternal checks to see how emtpy the bank account is [05:49] yup, its empty [05:49] eek! [05:49] :( [05:49] but when I wake up, it will be full again :) [05:50] and I was going to ask you to buy me a n810 for christmas... [05:50] aaah hehehe [05:50] good :) [05:50] ya right...I would buy me one first :) [05:50] :D [05:50] how much are them things anyways? [05:50] they're not yet released.... but I believe the target was $479? [05:50] * Jucato is about 1/4 way there already [05:50] jesus, you can get a laptop for that price [05:51] you can't carry the laptop around like that, or have a touchscreen :) [05:51] I would rather build another box or get a new laptop than that thing [05:51] Eee PC? [05:51] that's my other option [05:51] plus, if I got it, I would be the only one around here with one...I have yet to even see one up close and personal [05:51] I'm completely torn :) [05:52] I would wait until the Eee PC gets something other than 640x480 and a 5 year old KDE [05:52] 5 year old KDE? [05:52] ya, they are using a very early 3.x I believe [05:52] I just read it on planet kde I thought [05:52] 3.5.x afaik [05:53] ya, that is for the wimpy version, there is an advanced function on the Eee PC [05:53] fujitsu u810 has 1040X600 screen [05:53] how can the hell can fit 2 KDE versions? O.o [05:54] n8k99: how much? how light? [05:54] 1.5 lbs [05:55] hm... [05:55] its about the size of a paperback novel [05:55] how much? [05:55] $999 [05:55] $400 for the N800...ridiculous [05:55] wow!!! [05:55] nixternal: n810 [05:55] ah ok [05:55] nvm lol [05:56] what is the purpose of it anyways? is it a phone? [05:56] nope [05:56] internet tablet [05:56] fujitsu u810 is a notebook [05:56] ahh, ya I don't need that [05:56] I am going to wait for a Google phone now [05:56] almost like a UMPC... but more on the mobile side :) [05:56] which hopefully won't be another year waiting for a FOSS phone [05:56] * Jucato is probably going to remove Xandros from the Eee PC if he ever gets one.. [05:57] Neo1973/OpenMoko? :D [05:57] I wouldn't buy an FIC anything, even if you gave me the money for it [05:57] plus, has openMoko even hit a milestone yet? [05:58] dunno :) [05:58] * n8k99 saw nixternal raving about that earlier [05:58] * Jucato is more interested in Qtopia on those devices... [05:58] ya, I thought I did, couldn't remember though [05:58] Greenphone! [05:58] =p [05:58] huh? you haven't heard yet? [05:58] I know someone here ordered something, but I haven't seen it yet [05:58] greenphone's R.I.P. [05:59] didn't know that, but then again, if the phone isn't less than $20, I don't really care much :) [05:59] all a phone needs to do for me is make and receive calls [05:59] hahah [05:59] i thinl i saw that troltech is more interested in putting it on the NEC [05:59] all of that other stuff is unneccessary [05:59] they discontinued it and will now focus on supporting Qtopia on other devices [05:59] like Familiar? or Opie? [05:59] nixternal: virgin prepaid phones cost $20 [06:00] aren't those Qtopia/KDE like things [06:00] my cheap phone was FREE [06:00] nice! [06:00] Opie is/was a fork of Qtopia. intended to be free before Qtopia was released as GPL [06:00] afaik [06:00] oh, I played with Opie on a Zaurus, sweet stuff [06:01] anywho, I am going to crash...I am dead [06:01] k'nite :) [06:01] k'night nixternal! [06:01] but a kde4 beta4 package question [06:01] in #kubuntu :P [06:07] Mornin' guys! [07:56] * Serega dances [07:58] * Serega sings funny songs === Earl_of_Dunham is now known as n8k99 === mars is now known as marseillai === tmske__ is now known as tmske [11:22] nixternal: explain "sold on the design" - does it mean "I don't like what you did there" or "I don't like what you did there and I am willing to provide the resources to fix that" or something else? [11:23] nixternal: it looks kind of dull now that all the images are gone and there's a lot of text [11:24] I'm definitely not sold on *tha* :o) [11:24] err *that* [11:28] ^^ RFC from ryanakca , too [11:54] hm. just checking, but kioslaves wont work with firefox or something will they? [11:54] you'd need dolphin or konq? [11:59] * Hobbsee pokes mhb [11:59] * Hobbsee reads another kubuntu report [12:00] nixternal: mhb: Riddell quite liked it the way it was... definitely needs more images [12:00] * ryanakca shrugs [12:05] yay, dolphin works on gnome! [12:08] * Hobbsee has webdavs access again! [12:22] mhb: Eh, you three (you, nixternal & jr) can figure out what you want the page to look like while I'm away today... I'm obviously hoping that we'll keep it as I made it, but, I'm one voice amongst four :) [12:25] ryanakca: there are some rought edges, but I still like the concept [12:26] ryanakca: (the bottom line looks kind of fuzzy, maybe we take too much vertical space for the logo and download link...) [12:26] mhb: add it to the TODO as well :) [12:26] * ryanakca => school, see you :) [12:26] bye school! [12:26] er bye ryanakca! [12:26] :) [12:34] is this Troy Unrau? http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/10632.html [12:34] oh yeah... it is.. [12:35] kinda sad that he got messed over by XGL that way.. [12:35] yeah...sad... [12:37] i'm going to have to try sidux though :D [12:40] there are always the good reviews though :) [12:40] http://canllaith.org/?page_id=48 [13:15] "But lately Kubuntu development seems to be made by amateurs and too many things aren't working." <--- OUCH [13:22] Jucato: where's that? [13:23] one of the comments from troy's blog [13:24] ah [13:26] well, he does have a vague point [13:27] how many incarnations of the nspluginviewer stuff did we have, again? [13:27] the stuff that created /home in the ~'s [13:27] :) [13:49] mhb and ryanakca: well the text that was there originally didn't look good...don't know what it is lacking just yet....I am 95% sold on it, but that 5%...don't know what it is [13:55] nixternal: your 3-way conversation just earned the three of you a pokemon character :) [13:55] heh [13:56] I just got the warning to "dist-upgrade to gutsy" [13:56] funny, I have been running gutsy since like may [13:56] http://www.happychild.org.uk/Webimage/exeggutor.jpg [13:56] it's a known adept bug :) [13:57] I have no idea what you just showed me [13:57] the pokemon I just thought about :P [13:57] ahhh [13:57] you can pick a face among yourselves :P [13:57] hahaha [13:57] gee, thanks [13:57] one for you, one for mhb, one for ryanakca :D [14:04] * Jucato actually had to google that image for a few minutes... [14:20] whých ýs the ubuntu removed/deleleted/unýnstall ! help me [14:23] nixternal: So is kde4b4 ready? :P === _czessi is now known as Czessi === \sh is now known as \sh_away [15:00] Heya [16:01] anyone here know what packages I can take off of the alt install cd? I need to make room. [16:18] nixternal: hmm, well that one was more like a proof of concept, what I think is that loads of text never convinced anyone, they simply "aren't cool" now [16:19] nixternal: all that text might be useful for someone, and we should have it on the website in some form, either on a separate site or summed together in a few sentences. [16:20] "cool" sites have a large photo with some fancy text on them on the top site ... kind of like the news of the day [16:21] which was what I did, but spent very little time on it and I'm no graphic artist [16:21] nixternal: think http://www.redhat.com/ [16:22] how about think www.ubuntu.com? shouldn't this basically be a kubuntu themed version of that? [16:23] perhaps in mind of others, but I really reject the concept "Kubuntu is (just) Ubuntu with KDE" [16:23] mhb: that is exactly the idea I was looking for :) [16:24] yuriy: we will have a similar look, but not indentical [16:24] hehe, indentical :o) [16:24] all we need is kwwii to make us a bunch of graphics (professional looking), and then I can create a javascript that will rotate the images either on time, refresh, or have it set up so we can configure how we want rotation and what not [16:26] we should rotate it if we have some news to fit [16:27] also, we can borrow from all kinds of CreativeCommons-licensed graphics [16:29] good luck with the site, you exeggutor :) [16:31] is it all about kubuntu.org? [16:32] Serega: yes, about how it will look like in the future [16:33] I think we should post more news on start page [16:34] for exmple: Kaffeine codecs autoinstallation was implemented! =) [16:34] Serega: ooh? [16:34] don't tease us [16:35] Riddell: Hi, John, I figured out what to do! [16:35] no silent h! [16:35] mhb: sorry, that wasn't teasing [16:36] Riddell: "no silent h"? [16:36] Riddell: what does this mean? [16:36] Serega: Jon not John [16:36] OOH [16:36] adding silent h's to names is a curiosity of the English for the most part [16:36] Riddell: sorry [16:37] Riddell: so, just Jon or full Jonathan is better? [16:37] Serega: just Riddell is fine ;-) [16:38] :) [16:38] * Serega is shutting up [16:38] don't shut up, tell us about this exciting Kaffeine news! [16:38] ok) [16:38] what's working? [16:38] I figured out how to detect unability to play videos [16:39] I need some time to implement right behaviour in that case [16:39] Serega: have you seen "everything is illuminated"? Жонфен! [16:39] yuriy: no :) [16:40] yuriy: movie? [16:40] yeah [16:40]