[00:00] <DarkLegacy> Possibly
[00:00] <DarkLegacy> :]
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Better look into a Windows recovery Live CD
[00:01] <Rukus-> ah
[00:01] <Rukus-> i see
[00:02] <Rukus-> it appears that Partition Magic is garbage
[00:02] <Rukus-> and i should have used qparted
[00:02] <moncho> necesito ayuda y en Kubuntu-es al parecer no hay nadie
[00:02] <DaSkreech> Ha ha which version of parition magic?
[00:03] <Rukus-> the newest
[00:03] <Rukus-> maybe i should just reinstall windows as i already backed it up
[00:03] <Rukus-> should i inmstall vista?
[00:04] <Rukus-> ha ha
[00:05] <DarkLegacy> Lol
[00:05] <DarkLegacy> Compiz with all of the goodies on
[00:05] <DarkLegacy> Kick Vista's aero
[00:06] <ardchoille> moncho:  Hay necessita usar Ingles en esta canal. Por favor vas a #ubuntu-es
[00:06] <Rukus-> i wish i could get it to work!
[00:06] <Rukus-> compiz
[00:06] <DarkLegacy> I don't know how I got it to work
[00:06] <DarkLegacy> I destroyed my system
[00:06] <DarkLegacy> Brought it back from the dead
[00:06] <DarkLegacy> Then I was like
[00:06] <DarkLegacy>  /sigh, plz work.
[00:06] <DarkLegacy> And it did.
[00:06] <Rukus-> lol
[00:06] <ardchoille> hehe
[00:07] <Rukus-> ugh
[00:07] <ardchoille> DarkLegacy: Nice, you have a system that listens
[00:07] <Rukus-> i got a headache so not today
[00:07] <Rukus-> my system listens for the most part
[00:07] <DarkLegacy> Yeah, wobbly windows!
[00:07] <DarkLegacy> :D :D :D
[00:07] <Rukus-> suprised for an HP
[00:07] <Rukus-> if i reinstall windows, will it overwrite my grub?
[00:08] <DarkLegacy> I finally understood how Grub works
[00:08] <ardchoille> yes, but that's easily fixed
[00:08] <ardchoille> !grub
[00:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:08] <DarkLegacy> It mounts stuff
[00:08] <DarkLegacy> :]
[00:08] <Rukus-> nice
[00:09] <xoxa> hello, i installed kubuntu, uninstalled it, removed grub with fixmbr . but F9 during boot doesnt take me te recovery partition anymore.
[00:09] <Rukus-> should i stick with my HP windows home edition (i need a windows partition for various reasons) or download an xp pro
[00:09] <xoxa> hello, i installed kubuntu, uninstalled it, removed grub with fixmbr . but F9 during boot doesnt take me te recovery partition anymore. How can I fix it?
[00:10] <Rukus-> i need it for a course i am taking, unless i can emulate or run windoiws apps in ubuntu, i'll get rid of it
[00:10] <DarkLegacy> Oh my god, Linux is getting so much easier to use by the minute
[00:11] <Rukus-> if i could go withouyt windows all together and not dual boot
[00:11] <Rukus-> i am ok
[00:11] <Rukus-> i dont understand my options tho
[00:11] <ardchoille> Rukus-: Why do you need Windows?
[00:11] <ardchoille> Rukus-: Have you tried wine?
[00:11] <ardchoille> !wine
[00:11] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[00:11] <Rukus-> to run a simple power engineering learning CD
[00:11] <Rukus-> thats the only specific thing
[00:12] <Rukus-> otyher than that, i've found everything i need
[00:12] <Rukus-> in ubuntu
[00:12] <sebr> how do i manage compiz with kubuntu?
[00:12] <ardchoille> !compiz | sebr
[00:12] <ubotu> sebr: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:12] <sebr> yeah i installed it then just ran it
[00:12] <sebr> seems to work
[00:12] <sebr> i'll check the link, cheers ardchoille
[00:13] <ardchoille> :)
[00:14] <DaSkreech> !vista
[00:14] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[00:15] <Rukus-> i have wine, i dont think it works properly
[00:16] <DaSkreech> xoxa: What machine?
[00:16] <DaSkreech> DarkLegacy: Wait till KDE4
[00:16] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Drink more. It kicks in after a while
[00:17] <Rukus-> lol\
[00:18] <Rukus-> wine just hangs there loading application the nstops
[00:18] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: how are you running it?
[00:18] <Rukus-> i click on it
[00:18] <Rukus-> lol
[00:18] <Rukus-> its on a cd
[00:18] <DaSkreech> hmm ok
[00:19] <xoxa> DaSkreech: asus F3sa
[00:19] <Rukus-> i really have no idea what i am doing
[00:19] <DaSkreech> And it has a recovery partiton ?
[00:20] <xoxa> DaSkreech: yes
[00:20] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: I normally run wine from the command line
[00:20] <DaSkreech> xoxa: You took off Kubuntu?
[00:20] <xoxa> yes
[00:20] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: I'm thinking that when xoxa installed kubuntu, the recovery partition was overwritten
[00:20] <Rukus-> ok lets do that
[00:20] <DaSkreech> and you don't want Grub on the machine ?
[00:20] <xoxa> nom the partition is here
[00:20] <_Angelus_> man
[00:20] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Probably not
[00:20] <ardchoille> oh, ok
[00:21] <DaSkreech> xoxa: Was it a visible parition ?
[00:21] <_Angelus_> somebody had gave me a real good program to convert avi to mpeg2 :( from this channel
[00:21] <xoxa> the pb is  that when i removed grub with fixmbr
[00:21] <xoxa> it changed the function of f9 during boot
[00:21] <ardchoille> _Angelus_: avidemux  ?
[00:21] <_Angelus_> no
[00:21] <DaSkreech> xoxa: and you don't have a recovery Cd ?
[00:21] <_Angelus_> it was a QT one
[00:21] <_Angelus_> :(
[00:22] <DonalR> daskreech - I haven't seen a new machine w/ a recovery CD in a while
[00:22] <DaSkreech> DonalR: Bully for you
[00:22] <xoxa> DaSkreech: i hqve a recov dvd
[00:23] <xoxa> but i want to use my recov partition
[00:23] <DaSkreech> xoxa: Ah it's a recovery parititon..
[00:23] <DaSkreech> F9 was triggered by the Bios or by Windows ?
[00:24] <xoxa> before installing kubuntu F9 sent to recov partition
[00:24] <DaSkreech> right
[00:24] <DonalR> daaskreech - it was probably an option in the boot loader menu
[00:24] <DaSkreech> but was that a message on the BIOS boot up screen
[00:24] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[00:24] <xoxa> since installing kubuntu, and removing kubuntu and grub, f9 has another function
[00:25] <DaSkreech> how did you run fixmbr ?
[00:25] <xoxa> i downloaded and ran fixmbr.exe
[00:26] <vsudilov> anyone know why Kubuntu 7.10 upgrade isn't showing up when I use adept manager to fetch updates? I'm running 7.04
[00:26] <DaSkreech> xoxa: >_M
[00:26] <rahul_> hey I was wondering does anyone know how to change the function for the media button? i can't figure out where thats set. it launches amarok
[00:26] <DaSkreech> xoxa: try in ##windows
[00:26] <xoxa> from a site im trying to find back
[00:27] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: You followed the instructions on the site ?
[00:27] <xoxa> ##windows?
[00:27] <DaSkreech> xoxa:
[00:27] <rahul_> vsudilov: you need to change repos and update
[00:27] <rahul_> then upgrade
[00:27] <DaSkreech> Just click on the word :) it shoudl take you to the windows channel
[00:27] <vsudilov> I'm following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[00:28] <NickPresta> vsudilov, run: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[00:28] <vsudilov> Ill try it
[00:29] <vsudilov> --version-upgrade is an unknown option...
[00:29] <lovre> when will KDE 4 be released?
[00:30] <rahul_> vsudilov: use --dist-upgrade
[00:30] <rahul_> does anyone know how to change the function for the media button? i can't figure out where thats set. it launches amarok
[00:30] <vsudilov> again, unknown option
[00:30] <rahul_> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[00:31] <rahul_> what all did you type?
[00:31] <DaSkreech> lovre: about 4 months before it's finished
[00:31] <vsudilov> kdesu adept_manager --version-upgrade
[00:31] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: you are fully updated ?
[00:32] <vsudilov> I don't know.
[00:32] <vsudilov> According to adept, I am
[00:32] <rahul_> kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[00:32] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: ^^^ You need quotes
[00:32] <vsudilov> kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[00:32] <vsudilov> adept_manager: Unknown option '--dist-upgrade'.
[00:32] <vsudilov> adept_manager: Use --help to get a list of available command line options
[00:33] <lovre> DaSkreech: lol
[00:33] <lovre> DaSkreech: will it be good ? :S
[00:33] <rahul_> meh i just edited /etc/apt/sources.list with vim
[00:34] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: did you fetch updates after you added the new repos?
[00:34] <DaSkreech> lovre: KDE4 or KDE 4.0 ?
[00:34] <rahul_> and used aptitude to upgrade and update
[00:34] <vsudilov> daskreech: yes
[00:34] <lovre> DaSkreech: is there a difference?
[00:34] <vsudilov> yes, no new updates after I enabled the repositories
[00:34] <DaSkreech> lovre: Very much
[00:34] <lovre> DaSkreech: can you explain shortly
[00:34] <lovre> ?
[00:34] <rahul_> does anyone know how to change the function for the media button? i can't figure out where thats set. it launches amarok
[00:34] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: and alt+F2 -> kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade" doesn't work ?
[00:35] <vsudilov> I copied the output to that above
[00:35] <Rukus-> i made my linux partition 25gb is that fine?
[00:35] <DaSkreech> lovre: KDE4 is the target theyare aiming at KDE 4.0 is the first step out of the starting block
[00:35] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: very
[00:36] <Rukus-> what if i need more room? should i split up my 50gb windows partition into 2? thus having a smaller windows partition, and a single "storage" partition for linux?
[00:36] <Rukus-> i am reinstalling windows
[00:37] <lovre> DaSkreech: so KDE4 is all KDE 4.x
[00:37] <lovre> ?
[00:37] <DonalR> rukus - what will you be using more often and how much 'stuff' will you have in your HD?
[00:37] <DaSkreech> lovre: yes
[00:37] <Rukus-> i am going to start using ubuntu more
[00:37] <DaSkreech> lovre: which many people consider to start at KDE 4.1 :-)
[00:38] <vsudilov> Any more suggestions, DaSkreech?
[00:38] <Rukus-> if anything, all i ever have is music, and movie, and i will handle that with linux
[00:38] <Rukus-> does it hurt to have 3 partitions? 2 bootable and 1 not?
[00:38] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: Run it from a konsole see what it says
[00:38] <DonalR> rukus - meh, a 50 / 50 split of your HD sounds like a good start
[00:38] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Nope.
[00:38] <vsudilov> DaSkreech, I copied that output above
[00:38] <DaSkreech> !partitions
[00:39] <lovre> DaSkreech: i see. Another thing. Will it be easy to upgrade to new KDE?
[00:39] <Rukus-> well i already installed kubuntu and i dont wanna mess with the partition
[00:39] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: can you pastebin the output of adept_manager --help
[00:39] <DaSkreech> !paste | vsudilov
[00:39] <DaSkreech> lovre: We intend it to be
[00:39] <vsudilov> !pastebin
[00:39] <LjL> !netsplit
[00:39] <DonalR> I always keep /home on a seperate partition myself, and I keep it big cause I collect a lot of crap on my PC
[00:39] <vsudilov> heh
[00:39] <vsudilov> I'll paste it here -- its only 3 lines
[00:39] <DaSkreech> DonalR: Preach it :)
[00:40] <vsudilov>  kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[00:40] <vsudilov> adept_manager: Unknown option '--dist-upgrade'.
[00:40] <vsudilov> adept_manager: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[00:40] <_Angelus_> vsudilov:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:40] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: I know run adept_manager --help and pastebin that
[00:40] <Rukus-> can qparted resize partitions? and if i do resize my kubuntu partition will i ruin it?>
[00:40] <DaSkreech> Hi ubotu
[00:40] <DaSkreech> !paste | vsudilov
[00:41] <maverick> why does it have to be when dist-upgrade GUTSY something goes wrong !!!!!
[00:41] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Yes, no
[00:41] <Rukus-> ok thanks
[00:41] <Rukus-> :)
[00:41] <Rukus-> 50/50 i go
[00:41] <Rukus-> maybe 60/40
[00:41] <Rukus-> 60 on kubuntu
[00:41] <DaSkreech> maverick: Better that than on mondays
[00:41] <DonalR> rukus - qparted can resize but there's always a risk of data loss - or so I'm told.  I've never doen it myself
[00:41] <lovre> DaSkreech: to whom do you refer when you say "We" when you say "We intend it to be"?
[00:41] <DonalR> I backup everything and start from scratch
[00:41] <DaSkreech> lovre: Umm Us all :)
[00:41] <vsudilov> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/d4e130b52
[00:42] <DaSkreech> lovre: Distros and KDE
[00:42] <DaSkreech> lovre: good habit
[00:42] <maverick> DaSkreech: i did the latest dist-upgrade last night and compiz has gone crzy...it was working like a charm before this freaky update
[00:42] <DonalR> rukus - that sounds like a good start.  Personally I
[00:42] <Rukus-> well i havnt got too far in my kubuntu
[00:42] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: and alt+F2 -> kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade" doesn't work ?
[00:42] <Rukus-> i might start all over again
[00:42] <maverick> the thing is u never know what went wrong
[00:43] <vsudilov> DaSkreech: That is correct, it doesn't wor
[00:43] <DonalR> 'd go with WIN 20GB, / 10GB, /home everything else
[00:43] <DaSkreech> maverick: compiz is a strange beast
[00:43] <Rukus-> anyone here knows how to get flash working on an amd64 machine?
[00:43] <DaSkreech> maverick: remove it and re-install it?
[00:43] <maverick> DaSkreech: u think ?!
[00:43] <DaSkreech> vsudilov: That's not the same as I put before.
[00:43] <lovre> DaSkreech: ok, thank you for your time!
[00:43] <DonalR> has flash even been released for 64 bit?
[00:43] <Rukus-> i got it working
[00:43] <DonalR> it will be a pain otherwise
[00:44] <Rukus-> but i forget how
[00:44] <Rukus-> thats why i dont wanna reinstall
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Flash as in the online movie thingy?
[00:44] <Rukus-> yah
[00:44] <DaSkreech> !flash64
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Hi nikkiana
[00:44] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: no bot
[00:44] <vsudilov> DaSkreech: You're right, I just tried it. It did add a version upgrade toolbar to adept, but it says "the integrity of the update manager cannot be verified"
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Blast!
[00:44] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: we are working on it
[00:44] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Thanks gratefully
[00:45] <ardchoille> Tm_T: Good to know, I've become dependent on the bot(s) :)
[00:45] <_Angelus_> Rukus-: you want flash working on 64bit?
[00:45] <DaSkreech> LjL: Bad bot!
[00:45] <vsudilov> DaSkreech : Him I tried it two more times, seems like 3rd time is a charm...downloading now...
[00:45] <thomas_newbie__> does anyone know how farpd works?
[00:45] <vsudilov> strange.
[00:45] <Rukus-> no i got it to work, i am afraid if i reinstall i wont be able to do it again
[00:46] <DaSkreech> !info farpd
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: there is a page on the wiki
[00:46] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: umm, still no bot
[00:46] <Rukus-> ok good to know]
[00:46] <lovre> is there a way for me to see how my website will look on internet explorer? Im on kubuntu 7.10...
[00:46] <lovre> ?
[00:46] <Rukus-> thanks
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: damn! :-(
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: stupid relex
[00:46] <Tm_T> hahaha
[00:46] <n1lo> How can i active my webcam?
[00:47] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[00:47] <DaSkreech> Ugh
[00:47] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: lol
[00:47] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: thers no page on farpd lol
[00:47] <DaSkreech> >_<
[00:47] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: And I thought *I* was dependent on the bot :)
[00:47] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: being 3/4 asleep doesn't help
[00:47] <ardchoille> hehe
[00:47] <_Angelus_> Rukus-: its easy, just install nspluginwrapper , extract the flash plugin from adobe's site to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and use the command "nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
[00:48] <DaSkreech> lovre: IE4Linux
[00:48] <_Angelus_> Rukus-: that converts libflashplayer.so to 64bit and installs it in your home directory in some .nsplugin folder
[00:48] <_neon_> using gutsy and everytime i use openoffice it crashes i have the latest install per the gutsy repo any suggestions ,  i read that there was a bug with gutsy and oo any suggestions
[00:48] <n1lo> !webcam
[00:48] <Rukus-> thanks!
[00:49] <_Angelus_> np :)
[00:49] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: it does not
[00:49] <DaSkreech> n1lo: Sorry bot fell asleep
[00:49] <mike-kubuntu> my net keeps disconecting, i use dhcp with a cable connection
[00:50] <Tm_T> !test
[00:50] <mike-kubuntu> i know the connection is not going down because my laptop thats plugged into the same router has no trouble keeping the connection active
[00:50] <_Angelus_> DaSkreech:  it works on my 64bit system
[00:50] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: yes but not by the mechanism you just said
[00:50] <DaSkreech> It cant make it 64bit
[00:51] <DaSkreech> !ping
[00:51] <_Angelus_> explain me what it does then
[00:51] <_Angelus_> :p
[00:51] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: it drops it in a chroot environment and passes out calls but you would have to recompile it for it be converted to 64bit
[00:52] <_Angelus_> oh
[00:52] <_Angelus_> i see
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Bye ubo3
[00:54] <Tm_T> !test
[00:54] <_neon_> everyone sleeping at openoffice anyway i really need this going os is uselees without a working office suite, anyway every time i try opening one of the apps from oo it does not work i did some reading on the ubuntu bugs and there are a couple talilking about the issue tho no solutiion is oofered
[00:54] <Rukus-> ugh how do i unmount a partition
[00:54] <mike-kubuntu> when i try the kde4 beta kicker never shows up, and i cant really do anything but open a picture box, is this normal?
[00:55] <mike-kubuntu> also the little animation in the upper right hand corner is really slow and choppy
[00:55] <ubotu> Failed.
[00:55] <Tm_T> mike-kubuntu: its beta/alpha so yes
[00:55] <DonalR> rukus: sudo unount /partition/path/here
[00:55] <mike-kubuntu> Tm_T: just looking at the concepts, i don't like it at all for a desktop currently. whats the point of having a zoomable panable desktop
[00:55] <mike-kubuntu> Tm_T: looks really ugly and awkword to me
[00:56] <Rukus-> ok thx
[00:56] <mike-kubuntu> if anything the desktop might scroll and zoom, but not the background
[00:56] <Tm_T> mike-kubuntu: its not ready or for users
[00:56] <DonalR> rather, that is: sudo umount /partition/path/here
[00:56] <DaSkreech> n1lo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[00:56] <DaSkreech> _neon_: what do you need to do?
[00:56] <DonalR> my index finger confuses n and m all the time
[00:56] <Tm_T> mike-kubuntu: or do you say "this house is not for living" when walls havent yet built?
[00:57] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: that's umount
[00:57] <Rukus-> ok
[00:57] <_neon_> DaSkreech: i mostly use the spreadsheet and word processor to do homework and work related stuff
[00:57] <Rukus-> thx
[00:58] <DonalR> fagedaboutit
[00:58] <DaSkreech> _neon_: You need to do some scratch work now?
[00:58] <lovre> its quite buggy but its ok for testing purposes
[00:58] <DaSkreech> _neon_: you can throw on Kword and Kspread
[00:58] <DaSkreech> lovre: What is?
[00:58] <lovre> DaSkreech: ie4linux
[00:58] <_neon_> DaSkreech: are those on the repos?
[00:58] <DaSkreech> mike-kubuntu: Which Beta?
[00:59] <DaSkreech> _neon_: Yes
[00:59] <_neon_> DaSkreech: let me install the real quick brb
[00:59] <DaSkreech> _neon_: Should tide you till they sort out OO.o
[01:00] <DaSkreech> lovre: Oh yeah. It does have the nice effect that you can install all the IE's at the same time. Try that on Windows!
[01:01] <biovore> oO
[01:01] <lovre> DaSkreech: im not saying anything. Its ok. And i got to hate windows over time :D But it still has bugs... i can live with them tho. (Try opening www.net.hr, the js is fooking with it, its flickering)
[01:02] <thomas_newbie__> anyone know how to use arpd?
[01:02] <lovre> DaSkreech: anyway, is this legal? using IE w/o paying for it? (its not that i care, its just that i want to know)
[01:04] <DonalR> IE is free (as in beer).  you can't 'steal' it
[01:04] <DaSkreech> arpd? There is an arp daemon?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> DonalR: You can mis distribute it though
[01:04] <DaSkreech> DOn't think there is any legal issue
[01:05] <_neon_> DaSkreech: thx i think kword and kspread will do till they figure out oo
[01:06] <DaSkreech> _neon_: No problem. Isn't it great to have choice ?
[01:06] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: yes
[01:07] <DonalR> daskreech - meh
[01:09] <mike-kubuntu> DaSkreech: beta 3
[01:10] <DaSkreech> mike-kubuntu: Beta 4 is a nice jump. it's >  < that far from everyday use
[01:10] <mike-kubuntu> Tm_T: i know its not done yet and still have faith in the kde team, especially thier ui designs, i just see many areas where improvement could happen that isn't in making things more complete or more coding, but in base design
[01:12] <mike-kubuntu> thinks daskreech, i'll check it out, g2g though reading for class tomarrow
[01:12] <DaSkreech> mike-kubuntu: See you soon
[01:12] <lovre> DonalR: how come IE is free? I thought M$ owned it
[01:13] <DaSkreech> lovre: as in beer
[01:13] <lovre> DaSkreech: beer aint free
[01:13] <DaSkreech> lovre: go live on a campus
[01:14] <lovre> DaSkreech: i think something is lost in translation here. Im missing your point. But it doesnt matter
[01:14] <mike-kubuntu> lovre: its not free for you, but its always free for your friends
[01:15] <DaSkreech> lovre: beer makers sponsor parties and events in which they give out trucks of free beer
[01:15] <DaSkreech> lovre: Not cause they love you but cause they want you to get drunk and buy more of thier beer
[01:15] <lovre> DaSkreech: i see. Thanx for clearing that out :D
[01:15] <DaSkreech> It's not free as in speech
[01:15] <NickPresta> Why does my KDE Menu Editor slowly keep restarting the "Updating System Configuration" process? It keeps looping. I can't cancel it or the menu item isn't there. Any help is appreciated
[01:16] <DaSkreech> when they decide that the freeness is over. It's done
[01:16] <Tm_T> !away > _human_blip_away
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Umm. the nick didn't change
[01:18] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: ever?
[01:18] <DaSkreech> NickPresta: Woah.What are you editing
[01:18] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: I haven't seen it change. It's been away for a good while now
[01:18] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, KDE Menu. Open KMenu, right click > Edit Menu
[01:18] <thomas_newbie__> does anyone know how to set up a honeypot?
[01:18] <DaSkreech> NickPresta: I know. I've just never had to use it
[01:18] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: Install windows
[01:19] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: ?!
[01:19] <DonalR> thomas_newbie - a honeypot is a box that's set up to attract attacks, so . . .
[01:19] <Tm_T> thomas_newbie__: is that Kubuntu related question?
[01:19] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: A honeypot is a box that people try to break into. To make one just install windows and give it a public IP address by week's end you'd have goten some flies
[01:20] <thomas_newbie__> i don't need windows
[01:20] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: i want to configure one on my kubuntu machine
[01:21] <Tm_T> thomas_newbie__: umm, and they break into what?
[01:21] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: Good luck with that :)
[01:21] <Tm_T> anyway, this is going to be very offtopic soon I afraid
[01:21] <Rukus-> well it looks like i may never run windows on my laptop again
[01:21] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: i want to break into my own server....practise
[01:21] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: That's pretty silly :)
[01:22] <Rukus-> it shut off unexpectantly for no reason while in windows setup
[01:22] <Tm_T> !o4o | thomas_newbie__
[01:22] <ubotu> thomas_newbie__: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[01:22] <Rukus-> just great.
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Welcome :)
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato: dood!
[01:22] <Rukus-> lol
[01:22] <Rukus-> it shuts off unexpectantly for no reason while in windows setup
[01:22] <Rukus-> something isnt right
[01:22] <Rukus-> ughjhh
[01:22] <NickPresta> Rukus-, welcome :)
[01:22] <Jucato> DaSkreech: hm?
[01:23] <Rukus-> lol
[01:23] <Rukus-> stop that
[01:23] <DonalR> rukus - and the myth is that Linux is dificult to install . . .
[01:23] <draik> What is required for Kaffeine to play a DVD?
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Jucato: morning
[01:23] <Jucato> morning
[01:23] <Rukus-> oh well
[01:23] <Tm_T> thomas_newbie__: also, if you dont know what you going to break ...
[01:23] <Rukus-> the road to kubuntu here i am!
[01:23] <DaSkreech> !dvd | draik
[01:23] <ubotu> draik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:23] <draik> I keep getting "insufficient rights to /dev/dvd"
[01:23] <Jucato> draik: encrypted?
[01:23] <Jucato> !dvdcss
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <Jucato> !libdvdcss
[01:23] <DonalR> maybe it will install better in a VM - I had 98 running under qemu for a while
[01:24]  * draik waves to Jucato
[01:24] <thomas_newbie__> Tm_T: sorry what?
[01:24]  * Jucato waves to draik
[01:24] <DonalR> ^^the above was intended for rukus ^^
[01:24] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: Better find a securoty chan and ruminate in there
[01:24] <Tm_T> thomas_newbie__: #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: join the offtopic chan
[01:24] <Rukus-> no i get
[01:24] <Jucato> draik: libdvdcss2 I think. from the instructions given by ubotu
[01:24] <Rukus-> "error loading operating system"
[01:25] <Rukus-> now kubuntu is fucked
[01:25] <Rukus-> sorry for swearing
[01:25] <Safe_> is there a a device manager in kubuntu?
[01:25] <NickPresta> Rukus-, what's wrong with Kubuntu?
[01:25] <Rukus-> all it says is
[01:25] <Rukus-> "error loading operating system"
[01:25] <NickPresta> Rukus-, I assume this is the LiveCD you're having trouble with?
[01:25] <DonalR> rukus - did you try to reinstall Win after you installed ubuntu?
[01:25] <Rukus-> no
[01:26] <Rukus-> er
[01:26] <Rukus-> i never made it that far
[01:26] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | Rukus-
[01:26] <ubotu> Rukus-: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:26] <Rukus-> i created and was in the middle of formatting a partition, and my laptop shut off
[01:26] <draik> Jucato: Well, here's the thing. I copied all of my installed packages and installed them on my friend's computer.
[01:26] <draik> He should have everything I have, right?
[01:26] <Jucato> draik: not really sure
[01:26] <draik> He should also be able to play DVDs if I can, too, right?
[01:26] <dedi> looking for a id3 tagger which also tries to gather informations from the internet. do anyone know something like that or an other very preferable id3 tagger?
[01:26] <Kijutsu> I was installing Kubuntu, switching from Gentoo.  I just told it to format, and install on my old gentoo drive.  However, i've seem to run into a couple of problems.  1.  It broke Windows on my first drive, i had to reinstall the NT boot loader.  2.  Kubuntu doesn't want to boot, it drops into a text environment with an error about not finding a resume image at the specified UUID.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[01:26] <shadowhywind> hay all having a bit of an issue with openoffice in gutsy. I have no titlebar, and most screens are full screen
[01:27] <Rukus-> this laptop is garbage
[01:27] <Rukus-> ugh
[01:27] <Rukus-> what do i do now
[01:27] <dedi> Kijutsu: press e when grub shows up, then you can replace the uuid with /dev/hdx
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Live Cd and fix it?
[01:28] <Rukus-> yah
[01:28] <Rukus-> how
[01:28] <brentp> hi, what kernel image does one use for smp support?
[01:28] <Jucato> !generic | brentp
[01:28] <ubotu> brentp: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[01:28] <Kijutsu> dedi, yeah i tried that.  and it drops into a text environment and X refuses to load with an error about Process already existing or something.
[01:28] <DaSkreech> brentp: if your uname -r says generic then you have it
[01:28] <DonalR> well, if the Win partition is still there I'd attempt installing again, maybe running 'memtest' first to check your RAM
[01:28] <Safe_> can anyone help me configure a ethernet card in kubuntu?
[01:29] <Kijutsu> dedi, so I sudo killall x && sudo killall kdm && sudo kdm and it still fails to load X
[01:29] <brentp> here's my prob: http://rafb.net/p/YBVdp454.html
[01:29] <Rukus-> ughh
[01:29] <Rukus-> i hate computers
[01:29] <Rukus-> lol
[01:29] <dedi> Kijutsu: first edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and replace the uuid there, so that is fixed
[01:30] <Safe_> or at least give me a hint where to look
[01:30] <Rukus-> how do i fix my ubuntu installation?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Sorry what kind of configuration ?
[01:31] <dedi> for the x problem, try ps -ax ! grep /X and say if there is any output (typo is here cant do the right symbol, repace ! )
[01:31] <DonalR> rukus - well, if it never finished installing there's nothing to fix - starting over is always an option
[01:31] <Safe_> Daskreech, to enable it
[01:31] <Kijutsu> dedi, let's do this.  Let me reinstall.  But tell me this please, is there a way to get Kubuntu to simply leave my Windows drive (primary master) alone entirely and install as if it were on a single drive system on primary slave?
[01:32] <_Angelus_> how can i extract a .deb file
[01:32] <DonalR> if you're having odd, random problems, run 'memtest' for a while first
[01:32] <biovore> _Angelus_: there ar archives..
[01:32] <DaSkreech> Safe_: ah try System settings -> network settings
[01:32] <_Angelus_> name me one
[01:33] <dedi> Kijutsu: switch the first drive pyshically, so that the linux system is the first hard disc. you can then do a switch hd in the grub config file to get windows boot
[01:33] <brentp> so, i've installed linux-image-generic, and rebooted, still only 1 cpu. and uname still says -386-- though i'm not sure what it's supposed to say.
[01:33] <dedi> Kijutsu: but you have to search for a howto for that grub entry
[01:33] <Kijutsu> dedi, what i used under gentoo was a simple grub installation and used my bios to choose which drive to boot from.
[01:33] <DonalR> rukus - good luck dude.  I'm gonna hit the hay
[01:34] <Safe_> daskreech, its not showing up in there
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Hmmm
[01:34] <dedi> Kijutsu:  when you choose linux boot disc before booting from cd there sould be no diffrence after installing
[01:37] <Rukus-> UGH!!!!
[01:37] <Rukus-> what do i do now
[01:37] <Rukus-> ugghh
[01:37] <Rukus-> guh
[01:37] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: Wat's up?
[01:38] <Rukus-> cant boot into kubuntu now
[01:38] <vbgunz> can someone please explain to me why this -> '/dev/sdh1 /media/sdh1 auto user,uid=1000,gid=1000,noatime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,suid 0 0' WHEN trying to unmount results in a misrable failure -> 'umount: only root can unmount /dev/sdh1 from /media/sdh1' ?????
[01:38] <Rukus-> its messed
[01:38] <vbgunz> HTH can only root umount that??? why in the world did I add uid, gid 1000??? any one know whats wrong?
[01:38] <hydrogen> vbgunz: did you mount it as root or as the user?
[01:39] <vbgunz> I log in and they're already mounted
[01:39] <Rukus-> i am just going to fresh install
[01:39] <Rukus-> screw it
[01:39] <vbgunz> I am trying to have them automatically mount when I log in. I can red them, I can write to them, but I cannot umount them :/
[01:40] <vbgunz> damn... in matter fact I cannot even write with that current line... I f***king hate this so much already. this is just insane :(
[01:41] <vbgunz> I swear I just don't get it. I put uid and gid 1000. I am treated like I said nothing about it. I have no rights over this, it is too frustrating to bear
[01:43] <tuxwulf> ...since I started with linux I also started to refuse to reinstall
[01:44] <vbgunz> '/dev/sdh1 /media/sdh1 auto nouser,uid=1000,gid=1000,noatime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,suid 0 0' that results in 'Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL' ... /media/.hal-mtab is EMPTY!!!
[01:45] <vbgunz> no matter what I do, I cannot get the behavior I need... what is the black magic required here? all I am really trying to do is give mount/unmount, read/write access to a certain group. anyone not in that group should NOT have access to the device!
[01:46] <_Angelus_> is it posible to create a chroot envirement, install a 32bit kubuntu
[01:49] <vbgunz> I am bugging!!!! can anyone help??
[01:49] <draik> Jucato: Is there anything else on DVD playback? That was for the Totem player, not Kaffeine
[01:49] <Jucato> draik: which one was for Totem?
[01:49] <draik> I need something on Kaffeine
[01:50] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: what's up?
[01:50] <blendtux> hi hi vbgunz
[01:50] <Jucato> draik: which one was for Totem?
[01:50] <Safe_> help, my ethernet card is not showing up in my network interfaces window!!!
[01:51] <bonfire89> wow, This is my first time on this chat. I'm having problems with wpa. I have knetworkmanager. Is there anything easier? Thanks
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Safe_:  can you pastebin the output for sudo ifconfig -a ?
[01:51] <sven_> bonfire89, knetworkmanager actually is  quite easy.... I also thought that it was difficult but turned out it was me.. :)
[01:51] <DaSkreech> !paste | Safe_
[01:51] <ubotu> Safe_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <Safe_> dascreech,ok just a sec
[01:52] <bonfire89> sven_ heh, well I am a linux newbie. heh. Oh I will tinker with it a bit more.
[01:52] <vbgunz> all I am trying to do in fstab is give external devices every right imaginable *BUT* only to a certain group!!! if you're in the group, you have the rights!!! if you're not, you have nothing!!! i cannot do this at all... it should be childs play but I am convinced I am up against a massive bug here :(
[01:52] <sven_> bonfire89, Im not a diehard as well..
[01:52] <sven_> bonfire89, what is your problem?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: ping
[01:53] <bonfire89> sven_ can't connect. Shouldn't I be able to select the network I want to connect to off a list somewhere?
[01:54] <snake> can anyone tell me an applet to record videos of my desktop while i am working ???
[01:54] <vbgunz> now I am getting kde media manager not running errors :/
[01:54] <Safe_> dasskreech, command not found
[01:54] <DaSkreech> snake: recordmydesktop
[01:54] <snake> DaSkreech: thanks
[01:54] <vbgunz> my god, I am just venting, forgive me. this shouldn't be so hard or so buggy. this should be a piece of cake :(
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Safe_: what did you type?
[01:55] <Safe_> sudo ipconfig -a
[01:55] <sven_> bonfire89, well, the network should show up in a list already
[01:55] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: you want the user to unmount?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Safe_: no ifconfig
[01:55] <sven_> bonfire89, if it does not do that, then you have the first problem to fix
[01:55] <DaSkreech> brb
[01:55] <lovre> why cant i play wmv files with koffeine? do i need to install something?=
[01:55] <sven_> bonfire89, do you know a tiny little bit of shell and or bash?
[01:56] <Safe_> daskreeck, ok sorry
[01:56] <bonfire89> sven_, mmm I don't think so, sorry.
[01:56] <sven_> bonfire89, okay.. do you know how to open up a shell?
[01:56] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: something like this -> /dev/sdh1 /media/sdh1 auto defaults,gid=46,noatime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 ... if you're in group 46, you have those rights and yes of course you should be able to umount without problems, errors, excuses... I just cannot get the idea to ever work :(
[01:56] <Jucato> !w32codecs | lovre
[01:56] <ubotu> lovre: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:57] <_Angelus_> somebody knows if there's a way to install a 32bit kubuntu to chroot into it?
[01:57] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Shouldn't you have users in the list of options ?
[01:57] <sven_> bonfire89, and before that, if you press right mouse button on the knetworkmanager icon, do you see the access point in the list? do you see any access point there?
[01:57] <Safe_> dascreech, sory cant copy, on windows system
[01:57] <bonfire89> sven_, by shell do you mean konsole by any chance?
[01:57] <DaSkreech> !chroot | _Angelus_
[01:57] <ubotu> _Angelus_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Safe_: you are using putty?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Safe_: oh right duh!
[01:58] <Safe_> daskreech, putty?
[01:58] <sven_> bonfire89, sure, anything that gives a shell
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Safe_: it can't connect to the net
[01:58] <bonfire89> sven_, oh okay, then yeah, I know some stuff.
[01:58] <Safe_> :)
[01:58] <draik> Jucato: The first link from !dvd
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Safe_: how many cards do you see?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> lo and ?
[01:58] <sven_> bonfire89, okay.. first off, please tell me:  if you press right mouse button on the knetworkmanager icon, do you see the access point in the list? do you see any access point there?
[01:59] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: I can put users and it makes no difference. I'll tell you exactly what happens right now with users in that line. one sec
[01:59] <snake> DaSkreech: is there another applet that is not command line only ??
[01:59] <bazhang> Hi Jucato
[02:00] <draik> Hello bazhang
[02:00] <bazhang> draik: how is it going?
[02:00] <Jucato> draik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:00] <bonfire89> sven_,  if I goto options>show networks   then I see a wep network that I have connected to in the past. I don't see anything else, there should only be one wpa network where I am.
[02:00] <vbgunz> now I get kde mediamanager is not running error... wtf??
[02:00] <Jucato> draik: actually the libdvdread thing works for both Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[02:00] <vbgunz> you see what I mean, no matter what I do, something goes wrong...
[02:00] <Jucato> draik: and I'm guessing you need more than that, you need libdvdcss2 for encrypted stuff
[02:01] <bazhang> Jucato: nice write up in distrowatch yesterday :}
[02:01] <DaSkreech> snake: Yeah I don't recall the name though
[02:01] <Jucato> bazhang: er... thanks?
[02:01] <Safe_> daskreech, it dosent mention anything about cards, just link encap local loopback, net address...none
[02:01] <Jucato> bazhang: I didn't write up anything for DW... they just quoted me :)
[02:01] <draik> Jucato: I have all of these apps installed and I can view a DVD without a problem. He has them installed as well and cannot view DVDs
[02:02] <Jucato> draik: weird..
[02:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i make the icons on my desktop bigger
[02:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ?
[02:02] <bazhang> Jucato: I meant a mention of your article--nice one, btw
[02:02] <Jucato> bazhang: thanks
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Safe_: in the far left column how many entries do you see?
[02:02] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced tab
[02:02] <vbgunz> brb, need to log out and back in. this is insane :(
[02:02] <sven_> bonfire89, okay.. first of all, in konsole, type top
[02:02] <bonfire89> sven_,  done
[02:02] <sven_> bonfire89, and tell me if you see "NetworkManager" on the top of the list with 99% or so
[02:02] <blendtux> AT0M1CB0MB3R: go to kcontrol, then go to icons
[02:02] <lovre> i cant download it.
[02:02] <sven_> bonfire89, true? or not?
[02:02] <blendtux> and change there the desktop size
[02:02] <blendtux> icons
[02:03] <draik> Jucato: That's what I'm saying
[02:03] <Safe_> daskreech, just a "lo"....none
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Oh yeah then it's really not seeing your card
[02:04] <DaSkreech>  what's the card name?
[02:04] <bonfire89> sven_, false (I think, I'm looking in the command column for NetworkManager)
[02:04] <Merrittkr> Is there a way to restrict your desktop icons to their own desktop, the way you can restrict open window buttons on kicker to their seperate desktop?
[02:05] <Safe_> daskreech, realtek 10 100 made by encore electronics
[02:05] <sven_> bonfire89, okay.. do you have the iwlist command available?
[02:05] <bonfire89> sven_, nope, I can install wireless tools though
[02:05] <Safe_> daskreech, enl832-tx-rent
[02:05] <lovre> Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Safe_: That's the module name?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> lovre: Did you read the link?
[02:06] <sven_> bonfire89, not sure which package contains iwlist... but with that one, you can at least scan and see if you actually have an AP available or not
[02:06] <Safe_> daskreech, yes
[02:06] <Safe_> modle no
[02:06] <DaSkreech> Safe_: lsmod. Tell me if it's loaded
[02:06] <lovre> DaSkreech: yes, i added repos
[02:06] <sven_> bonfire89, with that you can see if the error is with knetworkmanager, or maybe a non functional wifi AP
[02:07] <Safe_> daskreech, how do i check?
[02:07] <bonfire89> sven_, iwlist is now available
[02:07] <DaSkreech> Safe_: type lsmod and tell me if you see the module
[02:07] <lovre> DaSkreech: i installed but i still cant play wmv files.... do i need a restart or something?
[02:08] <DaSkreech> lovre: Shouldn't
[02:08] <lovre> DaSkreech: :(
[02:08] <bonfire89> sven_, I ran scanning, and I see the network I want to connect to.
[02:08] <DaSkreech> lovre: You got it installed? what are you playing it through?
[02:08] <lovre> kaffeine
 Package w32codecs has no installation candidate <--- means you dont' have it installed yet
[02:09] <sven_> bonfire89, okay, so the problem must be knetwork manager.. try this in konsole:
[02:09] <lovre> yes, but then i downloaded it via http and i installed it manually.
[02:09] <sven_> bonfire89, kill -9 `pgrep Network`
[02:09] <sven_> bonfire89, sorry, sudo kill -9 `pgrep Network`
[02:09] <sven_> bonfire89, then sudo NetworkManager
[02:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come sometimes firefox crashes
[02:10] <sven_> bonfire89, while doing that, in the knetwork manager, you should see that all network devices are gone, and reappear again.. Then wait a few secs for the WiFi to scan and get results.. in a little while you should see all access points...
[02:10] <lovre> OMG, I CANT PLAY AVI FILES NOW
[02:10] <lovre> wtf
[02:10] <Safe_> daskreech, what would the module be called?
[02:10] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, because it has bugs.. :) sorry but I cant get a better answer
[02:11] <bonfire89> sven_, kk, currently it says that knetworkmanager is not running
[02:11] <lovre> how do i uninstall w32codecs
[02:11] <sven_> bonfire89, it... ? what is it? where?
[02:11] <sven_> lovre, adept manager
[02:11] <sven_> lovre, or apt-get
[02:11] <sven_> lovre, man apt-get
[02:11] <Ind-29> hello ppl, i re-installed winxp and now my kubuntu has disappeared and grub is gone too, how do i get it back?
[02:11] <bonfire89> sven_,  sorry, when I click on network manager it says that it is not running
[02:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sven_: do you know what audio driver i should use for mplayer ?
[02:12] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sven_: and what video driver
[02:12] <lovre> i see rubish when playing avi file now. Same with wmv
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Lets go one step lower
[02:13] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: What's up?
[02:13] <tomasko> When I run ksnapshot and select a region to snap, I get a line trace of where my mouse hovered while I selected the region.
[02:13] <tomasko> Anyone else get this problem?
[02:13] <Safe_> daskreech,ok
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Safe_: type in sudo lshw -C network and tell me what it says
[02:13] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, windows32 codecs ought to do it
[02:13] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: vbgunz had an issue but got very frustrated and left. It's ok now
[02:13] <sven_> bonfire89, did you restart network manager?
[02:13] <sven_> bonfire89, sudo NetworkManager
[02:13] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> where do i get those sven_
[02:13] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Ah, ok.
[02:13] <DaSkreech> !grub | Ind-29
[02:13] <ubotu> Ind-29: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:14] <tomasko> Anyone?
[02:14] <tomasko> I might have to ask the #kde folks as well just to confirm it isn't just a Kubuntu problem.
[02:14] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, adept manager.. you can start it from the menu. Then in the filter you just type windows or w32 or codec and you'll find it
[02:14] <DaSkreech> tomasko: dunno I disabled Ksnapshot
[02:14] <tomasko> DaSkreech: What do you use instead (if at all?)
[02:15] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Sounds like vbguns just needed to chmod/chown the mount point to take care of that issue
[02:15] <DaSkreech> Dunno when I need to take a screenshot I'll let you know
[02:15] <lovre> ok, this is what happens: i can hear sound, but i cant see image, just many many static colors on screen. How to fix this?
[02:15] <bonfire89> sven_, just did. it's try icon seems to indicate that I don't even have a wired connection (clearly do heh)
[02:15] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Ah well send him a note on memoserv ?
[02:16] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Sure :)
[02:16] <sven_> bonfire89, you mean the UTP connector icon?
[02:16] <sven_> bonfire89, don't worry about that one.. give an RMB on the icon.. do you see anything about wireless?
[02:16] <Safe_> daskreech, it just gives me usage options
[02:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how come in adept it says full upgrade
[02:17] <bonfire89> sven_,  when I click the icon it still says that its not running.
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Safe_: sudo lshw -C ?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> big C makes a difference
[02:17] <Ind-29> hello ppl, i re-installed winxp and now my kubuntu has disappeared and grub is gone too, how do i get it back?
[02:17] <ardchoille> !grub | Ind-29
[02:17] <ubotu> Ind-29: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <Safe_> daskreech, you had the network option on the last line
[02:18] <sven_> bonfire89, thats weird... in console, type ps `pgrep Network`  gives result?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Safe_: yes I did I still need it there I"m just checking if you used a upper case C
[02:18] <Safe_> ohh no
[02:18] <Safe_> let me try again
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Safe_: You can just press up and change that one leter
[02:19] <bonfire89> sven_, does not appear to do anything.
[02:19] <kevin_> ?
[02:19] <hdevalence> how do i make a process fork itself a bunch of times? like not an infinite loop i don't want to forkbomb but like "stop when there's 300 processes" type thing?
[02:19] <Safe_> daskreech, it still just gives me options
[02:19] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Just type sudo lshw
[02:20] <DaSkreech> see if that works
[02:20] <bonfire89> sven_,  if I click the tray icon and goto manual configuration... in the console this appears
[02:20] <bonfire89> kbuildsycoca running...
[02:20] <bonfire89> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'.
[02:20] <Safe_> daskreech, a whole bunch of stuff
[02:21] <DaSkreech> o.0
[02:21] <sven_> bonfire89, knetworkmanager relies on NetworkManager to run.. so you first have to start that one..
[02:21] <DaSkreech> Safe_: ok hold shift and press PgUp till you see network and tell me what it says
[02:21] <hdevalence> I want to make a really cool-looking pstree
[02:21] <sven_> bonfire89, sudo NetworkManager
[02:22] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: a for loop that runs 300 times maybe >
[02:22] <bonfire89> sven_, there we go, now its running.
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Safe_: That's very strange. What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[02:23] <Safe_> 7.10
[02:23] <bonfire89> sven_, "pgrep Network"  now gives 6173
[02:23] <hdevalence> DaSkreech: Wouldn't that make a straight line instead of a tree
[02:24] <DaSkreech> hdevalence: not if it's recursive
[02:24] <ImpaledOnRebar> dolphin sucks ppl.
[02:24] <sven_> bonfire89, bingo.. now try again, RMB on the icon?
[02:24] <sven_> bonfire89, see anything about wireless?
[02:24] <Safe_> daskreech, intel 82713/AB/MB pII x4acpi
[02:24] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> whats the best media player for mozilla that will play every video fine
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Ah it's the motherboard network card?
[02:25] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Ther's no such animal
[02:25] <Safe_> no
[02:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: i just need a good one
[02:25] <Safe_> pci card
[02:25] <DaSkreech> AT0M1CB0MB3R: huh?
[02:25] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: mplayer would be my recommendation
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Safe_: interesting
[02:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: i dont like mplayer it never works right
[02:25] <bonfire89> sven_, What do you mean by RMB? When I click on it I only see things about wired devices.
[02:25] <hydrogen> mplayer++
[02:26] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, there is an mplayer mozilla plugin..... adept manager.... hint...
[02:26] <sven_> bonfire89, RMB = Right Mouse Button
[02:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sven_: yeah but i dont like mplayer
[02:26] <sven_> bonfire89, do you this time see a list of wireless AP's?
[02:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hydrogen: i dont like mplayer
[02:26] <ardchoille> !info mozilla-mplayer
[02:26] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[02:26] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, try kaffeine
[02:26] <ubuntu_> i'm an idiot who filled up his HD.  I have booted off of a live CD and I can see the drives but I don't know how to mount them so I can get to them to delete the files
[02:26] <hydrogen> AT0M1CB0MB3R: well then, I guess its your loss >_<
[02:26] <bonfire89> sven_,  lol, heh, left mouse button did the same. No I just see a button for wired
[02:26] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sven_: whats kaffines plugin for mozilla
[02:27] <ardchoille> ubuntu_: man mount
[02:27] <sven_> ubuntu_, your system does no longer start because of a full HD?
[02:27] <sven_> AT0M1CB0MB3R, kaffeine is a media player
[02:27] <bonfire89> sven_,  If I goto options, I have the ability to disable wireless though.
[02:27] <ubuntu_> sven_ it boots into read only mode
[02:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sven_: yeah i know that
[02:27] <sven_> bonfire89, try disable
[02:27] <sven_> bonfire89, then reenable
[02:27] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: kaffeine uses mplayer, so the mplayer plugin should be enough
[02:27] <sven_> ubuntu_, thats weird
[02:28] <bonfire89> sven_, done, no apparent progress as result.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R, it depends on what media is used on the website that you want to watch ... youtube requires flash & java plugins  , as do most others these days as well as W32codec for windows media
[02:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BluesKaj: where can i get the w32codec
[02:29] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[02:29] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:29] <bonfire89> sven_,  somthing still seems wrong, if I click manual configuration I get this in the console
[02:29] <bonfire89> kbuildsycoca running...
[02:29] <bonfire89> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'.
[02:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ardchoille: will that fix all my problems
[02:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> with media
[02:29] <BluesKaj> thx ardchoille
[02:30] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Hmm I'm not seeing this card anywhere
[02:30] <Safe_> Daskreech, actually it says nothing about a network(sorry, was reading bridge info)
[02:30] <DaSkreech> Safe_: So it doesn't see the network card at all?
[02:30] <Safe_> nope
[02:30] <thomas_newbie__> i can't save a text file in /etc because I don't have permission how do i do it?
[02:30] <ardchoille> AT0M1CB0MB3R: There is no one package that will fix all your media problems because there are lots of different types of media. Keep in mind that even the flash 9 plugin won't play some flash 9 movies.
[02:30] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Shut down and check that' it is seated properly
[02:30] <sven_> bonfire89, I think this problem is out of my league... sorry
[02:30] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R, we don't know what your probs are so it's hard to say
[02:30] <DaSkreech> or possibly move it to a new slot
[02:31] <bonfire89> sven_, no problem. the help is definatly appretiated. Thanks a bunch for trying.
[02:31] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: He wants to be able to play every possible media type
[02:31] <Safe_> dascreech,I did and tried several pci slots, no light comes  on the ethernet card
[02:31] <posingaspopular> thomas_newbie__: you need to sudo it
[02:32] <dominus> salve
[02:32] <thomas_newbie__> how though? I'm in Kate and it won't let me
[02:32] <posingaspopular> sudo nano /etc/x.org or sudo cat /etc whatever
[02:32] <Safe_> guess im sol, have to take the card back
[02:32] <thomas_newbie__> posingaspopular: does it have to be done in console?
[02:32] <Safe_> wifi worked just fine
[02:32] <ardchoille> thomas_newbie__: Why are you trying to save a text file in /etc?
[02:32] <posingaspopular> thomas_newbie__: i duno, because ive never edited an /etc file in kate
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Safe_: make sure the card is seated properly
[02:33] <thomas_newbie__> ardchoille: actually in /etc/honeypot/
[02:33] <posingaspopular> but kate does have a terminal/konsole in it...
[02:33] <ardchoille> thomas_newbie__: Open kate as admin user, but be careful with it:  kdesu kate
[02:33] <Safe_> daskreech ,i think the motherboard is too old to see the card
[02:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody get sound when playing this video http://streaming.vegaspbs.org/videos/25216/pgr25216_256k.asf
[02:33] <DaSkreech> Safe_: <_O
[02:34] <DaSkreech> that's a rough deal
[02:34] <Safe_> asus p2-99
[02:34] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R, not me
[02:34] <DaSkreech> well I got as far as PII
[02:34] <ardchoille> lol
[02:35] <ardchoille> That's not only old, it's slow
[02:35] <Safe_> plus it has a windows vista sticker on it that might have somethinng to do with it
[02:35] <dominus_> hallo
[02:35] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R you need : mplayer/mencoder, flashplugin-nonfree ,java , w32codecs
[02:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BluesKaj: gah!!
[02:36] <Safe_> drove 50 miles to get it alson
[02:36] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BluesKaj: i have java and i think flashplugin-nonfree
[02:36] <Safe_> *also
[02:36] <Safe_> :(((
[02:36] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R, you can check your browser plugins by typing :about:plugins , in the adressbar
[02:37] <Rukus-> how do i install ndiswrapper?
[02:37] <Rukus-> every timei do it something goes wrong
[02:37] <Rukus-> and make it work too
[02:37] <dominus_> help... konqueror not connect in internet
[02:37] <DaSkreech> !ndiswrapper
[02:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:37] <draik> My friend put a DVD in his DVD drive and got this error message...
[02:37] <draik> No plug-ins found for the sources?
[02:37] <draik> No plug-ins found for the sources
[02:37] <Rukus-> ok sweet
[02:37] <Safe_> well guess ill put the wifi card back in
[02:37] <DaSkreech> dominus_: Just Konqueror?
[02:38] <hdevalence> is there a way to pipe AND print to terminal?
[02:38] <sMonk> can anyone help with Vista/Kubuntu Bootmgr problem? please?
[02:38] <Safe_> daskreech, thanks any way
[02:38] <dominus_> I connect in internet, use konia 6630 and bluetooth, firefox connect ok.. konqueror no connect
[02:38] <draik> hdevalence: command | command >> filename
[02:39] <draik> hdevalence: I'm guessing that should work, but I could be wrong
[02:39] <hdevalence> draik: but I don't want it in a file
[02:39] <dominus_> nokia*
[02:39] <Rukus-> ugh
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Safe_: Sure
[02:39] <Rukus-> i'm in a 64bit environment
[02:39] <Rukus-> some of those instructions are flaky for me
[02:39] <hdevalence> draik: I want to pipe to another command and put it onto the screen
[02:39] <draik> hdevalence: -v   (verbose)
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Rukus-: chroot them
[02:40] <Rukus-> whats that mean
[02:40] <DaSkreech> !chroot | Rukus-
[02:40] <ubotu> Rukus-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:40] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BluesKaj: what should it say
[02:40] <Rukus-> !grub
[02:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:40] <draik> I have the necessary packages installed on my friend's computer. I still cannot read DVDs. What am I missing and/or doing wrong?
[02:41] <Rukus-> ugh
[02:41] <Rukus-> why all the configuring
[02:41] <BluesKaj> AT0M1CB0MB3R, it should list all enabled media plugin apps
[02:42] <Rukus-> i'm just going to use the native driver
[02:42] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> BluesKaj: ill copy the page and paste in pastebin and show you?
[02:42] <Rukus-> it works for me
[02:42] <DaSkreech> !dvd | draik
[02:42] <ubotu> draik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:42] <draik> DaSkreech: Yeah, I did that.
[02:42] <BluesKaj> draik, libdvdcss2 installed ?
[02:42] <draik> BluesKaj: Yes
[02:42] <dominus_> !konqueror
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <tiborio> draik: I just joined the channel a second ago and answering you withouth knowing your history but I found that on my new Thinkpad I had to set the region for my DVD player. Go figure. I never had to do that before.
[02:43] <BluesKaj> !info konqueror
[02:43] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2002 kB, installed size 5340 kB
[02:43] <draik> tiborio: How do you set the region?
[02:43] <tiborio> draik: just apt-get regionset and run it with sudo
[02:44] <draik> tiborio: cool
[02:44] <draik> tiborio: Thank you
[02:44] <tiborio> :)
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Anyone use akregator?
[02:44] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, yup
[02:44] <DaSkreech> dominus_: Other Kapps can go online ?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: has it been tearing for you in Gutsy ?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> tearing ?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> seems fine , DaSkreech
[02:45] <DaSkreech> tiborio: You roK
[02:46] <tiborio> DaSkreech: Did it work for you too?
[02:46] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: When I'm in an article and srolling up/down the list of feeds tries to do the same
[02:46] <DaSkreech> tiborio: no just such instant help ;0
[02:46] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:46] <_Angelus_> ok
[02:46] <tiborio> DaSkreech: it just happened to me yesterday
[02:46] <_Angelus_> i install a 32bit chroot enviroment
[02:46] <_Angelus_> now  i must install packages in the chroot env and run them from there
[02:46] <_Angelus_> right
[02:47] <DaSkreech> yes
[02:47] <draik> How do I convert a mass of OGG to mp3?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, I use the external browser
[02:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: for each headline ?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> yes DaSkreech , double click , like winows  :)
[02:48] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Wow that's horrible :)
[02:48] <draik> lol @ DaSkreech
[02:49] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, works ok in konq
[02:49] <_Angelus_> what is the difference between these 2 packages
[02:49] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: But that's soooooo slow
[02:49] <_Angelus_> root@POTcore:/# apt-cache search psx
[02:49] <_Angelus_> pcsx - Sony PlayStation emulator
[02:49] <_Angelus_> pcsx-bin - Sony PlayStation emulator -- binary
[02:50] <_Angelus_> ?
[02:50] <DaSkreech> !info pcsx
[02:50] <ubotu> pcsx: Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:50] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: don't know but I assume if you install one it installs the other
[02:50] <_Angelus_> DaSkreech:  i know what pcsx is , i want to know whats the difference between pcsx and pcsx-bin
[02:50] <_aib> i started a vncserver on one system, and i connected to it from another, but I got a completely new desktop. is there anyway to access the actual desktop?
[02:50] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, make sure you've got IPv6 disabled
[02:51] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I just press left on the keyboard no new processes and I can glide through the news
[02:52] <BluesKaj> dunno what you mean
[02:53] <_Angelus_> is the universe enabled by default on gutsy
[02:53] <_Angelus_> ?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You have the 3 panel view right?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: I seem to recall it being enabled
[02:53] <_Angelus_> i see
[02:53] <thomas_newbie__> anyone know what this error means? : "ip_open: Operation not permitted"
[02:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Feeds in a column on the right. Two panels one on top of each other on the right ?
[02:54] <_Angelus_> cuase packages.ubuntu.com is saying that pcsx-bin is for amd64 , and i have no pcsx in my adept, i had to install a 32bit chroot enviroment to get it
[02:54] <BluesKaj> no i use 2 panels , just old fashioned I guess
[02:55] <Romina> hi
[02:55] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Ah I have 3 so it's a no mouse easy glide
[02:55] <DaSkreech> _Angelus_: sounds about right
[02:55] <Romina> what is the differende between the packages "gaim" and "pidgin"  in  Gutsy Gibbon ?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Romina: nothing
[02:55] <Romina> DaSkreech: sure?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> !info gaim
[02:56] <ubotu> gaim: transitional package to Pidgin. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 115 kB, installed size 156 kB
[02:56] <Romina> so I can install one of them
[02:56] <DaSkreech> ^^^
[02:56] <Romina> what does transitional mean?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> gaim installs pidgin
[02:56] <DaSkreech> that's what it means.
[02:56] <froggles_> firefox doesent complete its downloads
[02:56] <froggles_> whats up with that.
[02:56] <Romina> DaSkreech: Thank you!
[02:56] <DaSkreech> It helps people transit from gaim to pidgin
[02:56] <morphinex> Anyone use gnash? How does it work?
[02:57] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i use gnash morphinex
[02:57] <momo4001> ubuntu-es
[02:57] <morphinex> does it work pretty well?
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> _aib- x11vnc can start a VNC server on display:0. I'm not sure if there's a better program to do it or not
[02:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> morphinex: not really
[02:58] <draik> DaSkreech: I wish mozilla-thunderbird would have been removed and point to thunderbird itself (from Feisty to Gutsy)
[02:58] <momo4001> hi ubuntu in spanis
[02:58] <morphinex> AT0M1CB0MB3R: haha, too bad
[02:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> morphinex: why
[02:58] <draik> !es | momo4001
[02:58] <ubotu> momo4001: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:59] <momo4001> ok gracias
[02:59] <draik> momo4001: You're welcome.
[02:59] <user_> DaSkreech: do you have the history since I came in here?
[02:59] <morphinex> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I was interested in switching to it if it worked
[02:59] <morphinex> AT0M1CB0MB3R: the regular flash plugin doesn't work too well either it seems, crashes all the times
[02:59] <Romina> DaSkreech: when I came in the first time
[02:59] <Romina> you used some words I want to look up
[03:00] <draik> Romina: transitional
[03:00] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> morphinex: try it tho it flash works well for me
[03:00] <Romina> draik: there was an other one too
[03:00] <Romina> draik: do you see the history?
[03:00] <Romina> I quit the connection before
[03:00] <_aib> Dragnslcr tx
[03:01] <BluesKaj> well, nodding off here , still not adjusted to std time ...nite folks
[03:01] <Romina> I just identified at nickserv so I can receive private messages
[03:01] <draik> Romina: gaim? pidgin? transitional? transit? That's about it.
[03:01] <Romina> ok
[03:02] <froggles_> whats up with this linux shit not working?!?!?!?!
[03:02] <froggles_> firefucks doesent even complete it's downloads.
[03:02] <draik> !language | froggles_
[03:02] <ubotu> froggles_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:03] <draik> How do I convert a mass collection of OGG to mp3?
[03:03] <draik> !botsnack
[03:03] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:03] <Tm_T> draik: no need to make extra noise with bot :(
[03:04] <Tm_T> draik: bit of bash and ffmpeg?
[03:04] <draik> Tm_T: extra noise?
[03:04] <Tm_T> yes
[03:04] <draik> ubotu is quiet
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is quiet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <draik> o.O
[03:05] <mrtimbo2u> hi
[03:05] <_Angelus_> hah
[03:05] <froggles_> why doesent firefox do it's job?
[03:05] <mrtimbo2u> when i upgraded to 7.10 my volume only shows up to 11 percent and down to 0
[03:05] <mrtimbo2u> how do i fix it
[03:05] <_Angelus_> the pcsx-bin package was on packages.ubuntu.com .. but wasn't on adept
[03:05] <froggles_> open source. what a hack! sheesh.  i guess you get what you pay for.
[03:06] <Tm_T> froggles_: you know, there's other browsers than Firefox too if you dont like it
[03:06] <mrtimbo2u> and i tried to change my keyboard layout
[03:06] <draik> froggles_: You can always use IE 7.0 ;)
[03:06] <_Angelus_> froggles_: or you get depends on what brain you have and not one what big mouth you have
[03:07] <_Angelus_> froggles_: give a try to opera or konqueror
[03:07] <froggles_> draik: at least IE does it's job and is suffice regardless of bells and butt whistles
[03:07] <draik> froggles_: Then use win
[03:07] <froggles_> _Angelus_: how hard is to to download
[03:07] <froggles_> you dont need  brain for that.
[03:07] <Tm_T> that ranting isnt helping any
[03:08] <n8k99> !offtopic
[03:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:08] <froggles_> _Angelus_: i already punched in my pornsite passwords.
[03:08] <_Angelus_> of course you need froggles_ without a brain you won't click a button
[03:08] <mrtimbo2u> hello?
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> I've never had a problem with downloading files with Firefox. Thought about the possibility of it being your ISP?
[03:08] <froggles_> it's always the ISP's fault.
[03:08] <froggles_> how is it the ISP's fault.
[03:08] <_Angelus_> OMG LOL
[03:08] <Tm_T> froggles_: you should calm down, really
[03:08] <draik> Dragnslcr: It's a farfetched thing, but I have heard of a few ISPs blocking "friendly" sites
[03:08] <_Angelus_> a win z0mbie
[03:09] <Tm_T> _Angelus_: and dont push it
[03:09] <_Angelus_> LOL my bad Tm_T
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> I'd consider a problem like connections being dropped while downloading files to be on the ISP and/or other networking equipment before I'd think of it being a problem with Firefox
[03:10] <draik> Dragnslcr: I second that!
[03:10] <froggles_> i have been connected to IRC this whole time and havent been kicked.
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> Of course, downloading the same files with a different browser would be a good test
[03:10] <Tm_T> froggles_: doesnt matter, irc handles packet loss differently
[03:10] <draik> froggles_: Did you want to?
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> And IRC (usually) doesn't transmit large files
[03:10] <Tm_T> draik: ?
[03:10] <froggles_> fine i'll try konquerer,
[03:10] <_Angelus_> i somtimes coulnd't access internet pages but could use IRC
[03:11]  * froggles_ manually types the passwords of his favorite porn sites.
[03:11] <mrtimbo2u> does anyone know
[03:11] <draik> Tm_T: he said he hasn't been kicked. Kind of an invitation.
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> mrtimbo2u- is that in KMix?
[03:11] <Tm_T> froggles_: also porn isnt topic in this channel
[03:11] <n8k99> froggles_:  !offtopic
[03:11] <_Angelus_> you mean
[03:11] <wilson> maybe froggles should just stick with windows or mac or whatever other fruity thing he was using before
[03:11] <_Angelus_> !offtopic froggles_
[03:12] <Tm_T> ...
[03:12] <froggles_> but i like the bash shell
[03:12] <_Angelus_> !offtopic | froggles_
[03:12] <n8k99> yes thanks _Angelus_
[03:12] <ubotu> froggles_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:12] <Tm_T> wilson: dont bush it
[03:12] <froggles_> and package managers
[03:12] <_Angelus_> that one :D
[03:12] <draik> _Angelus_: 3rd times the charm
[03:12] <Tm_T> and that is even wrong factoid in this matter
[03:12] <n8k99> ooh Jucato is here
[03:13] <draik> Jucato: Hey there
[03:13] <Tm_T> Jucato_ isnt here
[03:13] <draik> Let me IM him
[03:13] <Jucato> yep?
[03:13] <Tm_T> Jucato you are not here
[03:13] <draik> Ah, there you are
[03:13] <mrtimbo2u> oh sorry yes
[03:14] <mrtimbo2u> it worked in fiesty
[03:14] <froggles_> kde wallet is such a pain in the ass. is there a way to save passwords with out having to fiddle with this wallet?
[03:14] <Tm_T> froggles_: no
[03:14] <Tm_T> atleast not that I know
[03:14] <draik> froggles_: Keep wallet open
[03:15] <madar> !nvidia
[03:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> froggles_- sure, put them all in a text file. Then give us access to your computer so we can see all your passwords stored in plaintext
[03:15] <mrtimbo2u> but now it changes but doesnt effect the sound
[03:15] <Tm_T> madar: you know, you can /msg ubotu too
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> mrtimbo2u- adjusting the master volume?
[03:15] <mrtimbo2u> any of them
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> mrtimbo2u- what kind of sound card/chipset?
[03:16] <Rukus-> ahah sweet
[03:16] <Rukus-> i love when there is easier ways to do things
[03:16] <hellhound> does anyone know how to get xine to play xvid files?
[03:16] <mrtimbo2u> intel
[03:16] <mrtimbo2u> hda
[03:16] <Jucato> hellhound: install libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:16] <draik> Rukus-: What did you simplify?
[03:16] <mrtimbo2u> i can change it if i go to mixer
[03:17] <hellhound> Jucato: it is installed
[03:17] <mrtimbo2u> but the multi keys are no longer working
[03:17] <mrtimbo2u> well vol control at least
[03:17] <Jucato> hellhound: hm...
[03:17] <draik> Tm_T: Sorry, I totally forgot about your comment to mass conversions.
[03:17] <draik> Tm_T: Anything with a GUI?
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> mrtimbo2u- on the switches tab, what's the IEC958 source?
[03:17] <Tm_T> draik: not that I know
[03:18] <hellhound> Jucato: i get a flickering black screen and it acts like it is playing (the video time progresses) but there is no sound and the black screen continues to flicker
[03:18] <draik> Tm_T: ok. thx
[03:18] <hellhound> Jucato: it happens in both xine and mplayer
[03:19] <mrtimbo2u> i dont get it
[03:19] <Jucato> even mplayer? hm... weird.
[03:19] <bazhang> hellhound: is compiz enabled?
[03:19] <hellhound> bazhang: yes... how would that cause a problem
[03:20] <bazhang> hellhound: conflict--I get the same thing. need to disable it to view vids
[03:20] <Tm_T> errr
[03:20] <Tm_T> false
[03:20] <Tm_T> bazhang: hellhound: use different vo
[03:21] <Jucato> vo?
[03:21] <mrtimbo2u> i dont see a thing that says source
[03:21] <bazhang> Tm_T: what is a vo
[03:21] <Tm_T> video out
[03:22] <bazhang> ok; disabling it does the same though, and since I never use compiz, no matter here
[03:22]  * froggles_ is happy because he is downloading sex movies.
[03:22] <bazhang> !ohmy
[03:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:23] <froggles_> sorry.
[03:23] <draik> froggles_: Sorry? That was your 3rd time being told
[03:23] <Tm_T> froggles_: you really have to stop that
[03:23] <bazhang> yeah, take it to #offtopic
[03:25] <mrtimbo2u> well how do i down grade kmilo
[03:25] <mrtimbo2u> to the last ver
[03:25] <hydrogen> froggles_: a good rule to follow is read that this is not aol
[03:25] <draik> mrtimbo2u: sudo apt-get install kmilo
[03:26] <Tm_T> draik: that doesnt downgrade?
[03:26] <mrtimbo2u> i have it installed
[03:26] <DaSkreech> draik: what?
[03:26] <hellhound> bazhang: how do i kill compiz?
[03:26] <draik> whoopsie
[03:26] <mrtimbo2u> google is telling me that i need to downgrade it
[03:26] <mrtimbo2u> not install it cause its installed
[03:26] <bazhang> hellhound: alt +f2 kwin --replace
[03:26] <DaSkreech> mrtimbo2u: I think you can apt-get intsall kmilo=versionstring
[03:26] <draik> bazhang: you beat me to it. I've done it enough times as is.
[03:26] <DaSkreech> install
[03:27] <bazhang> draik: haha
[03:27] <draik> bazhang: For some strange reason, I cannot use "nvidia", only "nv"
[03:27] <draik> Strange, huh?
[03:27] <bazhang> draik: I use nv as well
[03:27] <draik> bazhang: I used to have nvidia with Feisty
[03:28] <draik> bazhang: I guess I feel a bit strange since certain things weren't as they were with Feisty.
[03:29] <mrtimbo2u> it said that i need the version from 7.14
[03:29] <mrtimbo2u> and that fixs it
[03:29] <bazhang> draik: I'm the opposite--Fesity was too unstable for me--came back with Gutsy
[03:30] <bazhang> err Feisty
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Thre was a 7.14
[03:30] <draik> Dapper > Edgy > Feisty > Gutsy
[03:30] <DaSkreech> that was  a strange yar
[03:30] <draik> bazhang: Making up your own editions?
[03:30] <bazhang> haha
[03:30] <bazhang> yep
[03:31] <draik> I remastered Kubuntu to be just as my desktop. I called it DraiKubuntu
[03:31] <mrtimbo2u> ok
[03:31] <bazhang> take out the u
[03:31] <mrtimbo2u> 7.04
[03:31] <madar> hello looking for help with nvidia drivers install, I have tried several ways, most recently with the restricted drivers section of system settings
[03:31] <mrtimbo2u> fiesty
[03:31] <ardchoille> draik: How did you remaster the livecd?
[03:31] <draik> !nvidia | madar
[03:31] <ubotu> madar: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:32] <draik> ardchoille: Don't recall. This was with Edgy. Possibly early Fesity
[03:32] <draik> *Feisty
[03:32] <draik> darn you bazhang
[03:32] <bazhang> hehe
[03:32] <ardchoille> draik: Sounds like maybe Rekonstructor
[03:33] <draik> ardchoille: No. That's not it.
[03:33] <madar> doh x not playing nice restarted
[03:33] <draik> ardchoille: I'll have to look for it. I recall it being CLI only
[03:34] <madar> anyway I can't get to the Monitors & Displays module to load and apparently the nvidia driver isn't stable either
[03:34] <madar> anyone have any advice as to getting the nvidia binary drivers working in Gutsy
[03:34] <hellhound> hummm still no dice with playing xvid files after turning off compiz with "kwin --replace"  I am getting the exact same output
[03:35] <DaSkreech> !info kmilo feisty
[03:35] <bazhang> hellhound: bizarre
[03:35] <ubotu> kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 240 kB
[03:35] <DaSkreech> mrtimbo2u: try sudo apt-get install kmilo=4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2
[03:36] <hellhound> bazhang: know of anyway to check what the problem might be?
[03:36] <thomas_newbie__> how do I enter process table with root?
[03:36] <mrtimbo2u> ok
[03:36] <bazhang> hellhound: xvid.avi files?
[03:36] <ubuntu> hola
[03:36] <draik> ardchoille: remastersys
[03:36] <ubuntu> alquien nme puede ayudar
[03:36] <DaSkreech> thomas_newbie__: kdesu ksysguard
[03:36] <mrtimbo2u> "was not found
[03:36] <draik> !es | ubuntu
[03:36] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:36] <DaSkreech> !es | ubotu
[03:36] <ubotu> ubotu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:36] <thomas_newbie__> DaSkreech: ty
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Argh Whoops
[03:36] <bazhang> :}
[03:37] <hellhound> bazhang: yes... the whole file is xvid-lol.avi
[03:37] <draik> lol @ DaSkreech
[03:37] <ubuntu> hola
[03:37] <bazhang> hellhound: using kaffeine?
[03:37] <hellhound> bazhang: actually is it dsr.xvid-lol.avi     if that helps
[03:37] <draik> !es | ubuntu
[03:37] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:37] <hellhound> bazhang: using xine
[03:37] <modjo> ho every body
[03:38] <bazhang> hellhound: have you tried kaffeine?
[03:38] <hellhound> bazhang: installing now to try
[03:38] <oldwulf> Hey all
[03:38] <bazhang> hi!
[03:38] <modjo> anybody here have programmed prolog in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[03:38] <mrtimbo2u> brb
[03:38] <MagicCow> Is Compiz Fusion a pretty buggy program in general? It seems to slow up stuff, and make things crash quite a bit and I just want to know if it's a common thing, or something that I can tweak and make work.
[03:39] <biovore> MagicCow: yes..
[03:39] <biovore> !compviz
[03:39] <MagicCow> ok
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compviz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <biovore> !compiz
[03:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:39] <bazhang> MagicCow: a bit of a memory hog, and has some leakage problems--fun, bu unstable
[03:39] <bazhang> err but
[03:39] <DaSkreech> modjo: ok. Do you have a question?
[03:40] <ardchoille> draik: Ah, thanks
[03:40] <draik> np ardchoille
[03:40] <Romina> hey :)
[03:40] <modjo> yes daskreech, do you know any prolog interpreter
[03:40] <modjo> ?
[03:40] <MagicCow> Yeah, I really enjoyed some of the things.. I wish there was a lite version, with only the coolest things, and not all the extra junk.
[03:40] <DaSkreech> !find prolog
[03:40] <ubotu> Found: gprolog, gprolog-doc, prolog-el, swi-prolog, swi-prolog-clib (and 6 others)
[03:40] <hellhound> bazhang: yeah kaffiene is getting the same thing
[03:40] <DaSkreech> modjo: Ah swi-prolog should do nicely
[03:41] <Romina> Question:  I successfully installed the gimp   (package name "gimp") on gutsy gibbon.    Then I wanted to install       "libgimp-perl"   but this happened:          http://phpfi.com/274169    What may I do?
[03:41] <modjo> daskreech: is that a gui prolog interpreter?
[03:41] <DaSkreech> As I recall
[03:41] <modjo> lemme try it
[03:41] <bazhang> hellhound: do you get an error message, or just the black screen
[03:41] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: do you know anything about the bot?
[03:42] <hellhound> bazhang: just the flickering black screen... i can tell that it is one of those tv ratings.. i have tried multiple files that i know work
[03:42] <MagicCow> Are there any programs for linux that allow video as wallpaper?
[03:42] <DaSkreech> MagicCow: how about linux?
[03:42] <modjo> daskreech: heres the tough question
[03:43] <hellhound> bazhang: what i mean by the tv rating is that the flickering is the flickering of the TV14 at the beginning of a video
[03:43] <bazhang> Tm_T: said to change the video out, though not certain how to do that
[03:43]  * DaSkreech gets out the hammer
[03:43] <ardchoille> MagicCow: I think that would put your cpu near 100% and keep it there, don't you?
[03:43] <MagicCow> Eh?
[03:43] <modjo> daskreech: where is the program? i already installed in console
[03:43] <MagicCow> Well, maybe not VIDEO.. but an animated gif or something.
[03:43] <MagicCow> Basically the Dream something program for Vista.
[03:43] <ardchoille> MagicCow: you can use a screensaver as the desktop wallpaper
[03:43] <MagicCow> Oh really?
[03:44] <hellhound> bazhang: but despite how long i leave it one.. it continue to flicker this sign but the video time continues to progress
[03:44] <MagicCow> I was wanting to use a visualization as wallpaper.
[03:44] <modjo> daskreech: have u used prolog before?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> modjo: type swi<tab>
[03:44] <DaSkreech> modjo: yeah but I was in windows at the time
[03:44] <modjo> i see the swi runs in konsole
[03:44] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: ?
[03:44] <modjo> daskreech how do i get out of it"?
[03:45] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: what about the bot?
[03:45] <DaSkreech> MagicCow: you can use any app as the root window
[03:45] <DaSkreech> modjo: ^C ?
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: how do you actally see more?
[03:45] <bazhang> hellhound: my only suggestion at this point is to try some other programs, like vlc, etc; not sure how to change video out per Tm_T
[03:45] <Tm_T> mplayer -vo help
[03:45] <modjo> daskreech: it opened console and i got to help
[03:46] <oldwulf> MagicCow: you can try compiz fusion
[03:46] <modjo> tnx a lot :D
[03:46]  * froggles_ still got dropped downloads with an other web browser.
[03:46] <Tm_T> kmplayer and Kaffeine has settings
[03:46] <Tm_T> also ummmm
[03:46] <Tm_T> bah
[03:46] <DaSkreech> modjo: Excellent
[03:46] <Tm_T> fiddle about
[03:46] <modjo> daskreech: can i ask, where you used prolog before?
[03:46] <MagicCow> I had it installed, it made my system act funny so I got rid of it.
[03:46] <Tm_T> froggles_: see, its not about browser
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Thats' for me?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> modjo: AI class
[03:46] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: no
[03:46] <ardchoille> MagicCow: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087286.msg92487#msg92487
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: ok
[03:46] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: I dont know about your bot issue sorry
[03:46] <froggles_> hmm how can i trouble shoot this.
[03:46] <MagicCow> Ah cool, there we go.
[03:47] <modjo> daskreech: bachelor computers major?
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: When you do a !find and it says (and more)
[03:47] <DaSkreech> modjo: Yep
[03:47] <draik> Anyone here familiar with regionset?
[03:47] <hellhound> Tm_T: ok i see the various choices... they are the same as the gui preference interface.  i am just not sure which one to choose
[03:47] <modjo> daskreech: whtas the toughest programming language you used?
[03:47] <draik> Error: could not open device "{null}"!
[03:47] <froggles_> i was downloading about 12 large mpg files at once.
[03:47] <bazhang> hellhound: looking at kaffeine, (thanks Tm_T!) there are parameters you can set for xine engine in it
[03:47] <DaSkreech> modjo: language or what I implemented in it
[03:48] <modjo> daskreech: language
[03:48] <DaSkreech> modjo: Maybe C++ it's simple but has really funky corner cases
[03:48] <draik> What would cause a Live CD (Gutsy) to not load? I had CLI, no GUI
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Too many little fiddly ways to twist it
[03:48] <modjo> daskreech: i know what you mean, its really WIDE
[03:49] <hellhound> bazhang: ok i am looking in kaffiene and say the xine engine parameters... under video i see drivers that match vo list that Tm_T also showed under mplayer.  i just don't know which one to choose
[03:50] <modjo> daskreech: thanks for your help and comments, nice to meet more sick people like us that gets into computers major
[03:50] <hydrogen> nah
[03:50] <MagicCow> Okay, so VLC has the option to play video as wallpaper.
[03:50] <bazhang> hellhound: try each one
[03:50] <hydrogen> the toughest programming langauge ever
[03:50] <hydrogen> is obviously whitespace
[03:50] <DaSkreech> modjo: Ha ha Wait till you meet those that enjoy it :)
[03:50] <tomasko> LOLCODE
[03:50] <hydrogen> especially if your editor isn't set up properly
[03:50] <hydrogen> and converts tabs to spaces
[03:50] <hydrogen> talk about hard to find bugs :/
[03:50] <DaSkreech> hydrogen: dot dot DASH dot
[03:50] <modjo> daskreech: its my ninth semestre i seen enough
[03:50] <Tm_T> hellhound: try and see
[03:51] <mrtimbo2u> still dont know how to downgrade it :(
[03:51] <modjo> daskreech: take care and keep on :D
[03:51]  * DaSkreech keeps
[03:52] <DaSkreech> mrtimbo2u: My suggestion didn't help?
[03:52] <mrtimbo2u> no
[03:52] <DaSkreech> :-(
[03:52] <mrtimbo2u> "was not found" is what it said
[03:53] <mrtimbo2u> E: Version '4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2' for 'kmilo' was not found
[03:53] <DaSkreech> mrtimbo2u: try take out the 4:
[03:53] <mrtimbo2u> oh
[03:53] <mrtimbo2u> nope
[03:54] <DaSkreech> >_<
[03:54] <mrtimbo2u> google is not being my friend tonight lol
[03:54] <DaSkreech> mrtimbo2u: I think that's the right command I just never tried it cross relelases before
[03:55] <draik> Any reason why I cannot run VMware?
[03:55] <mrtimbo2u> a whole bunch of post saying the downgraded it just not how they did it
[03:56] <ubuntu_> what's the recommended way for compiz fusion on gutsy again? i feel like the one on the ubuntu wiki is outdated (someone mentioned something about the fusion icon a while ago)
[03:56] <ubuntu_> wow, ubuntu_... what a name....
[03:58] <mrtimbo2u> found a way around it
[03:58] <mrtimbo2u> now it just dont show what level its at
[03:58] <anto> hhola
[03:58] <DanielHolth> HI there, I am using Amarok on Kubuntu with Postgresql as the backend, but it won't let me set "Automatically add to media device transfer queue" on my podcasts.
[03:59] <hellhound> bazhang and Tm_T: i just tried them all xmga, xv, x11, gl, gl2, dxr3, xvidix, and xvmc and none worked.  xv, x11, gl and gl2 where the only ones that did not return a fatal error "Could not initialize video filters or video output"
[03:59] <DanielHolth> I wonder if I will have to edit the source so Amarok will store postgresql booleans in a better way, or if perhaps I am missing a postgresql option.
[03:59] <draik> doing regionset does this...
[03:59] <draik> ERROR:  Could not open disc "(null)"!  Please ensure there is a readable CD or DVD in the drive.
[04:02] <hellhound> bazhang: is there a converter available?
[04:03] <Tm_T> hellhound: xshm works here with gl
[04:03] <hellhound> Tm_T: i am not sure what you mean?
[04:03] <Tm_T> umm
[04:04] <Tm_T> hellhound: xshm driver works with gl active
[04:04] <Tm_T> hellhound: that means: when you have opengl somewhere used
[04:06] <hellhound> Tm_T: yeah I have an nvidia card.  i beleive it always uses opengl.. oh wait... no that should just enable it... but my window decorations may be using opengl.... this is alot of work to simply play a file... is there a converter that can change these xvids to simple avi?
[04:07] <clyde> looking for a good drawing program for Kubuntu, am used to Corel X3. Help please.
[04:07] <crazy_bus> I'm trying a burn a dvd in k3b.  But I get this error.  I have tried three times and got this error http://pastebin.ca/763094
[04:07] <Tm_T> hellhound: no, nvidia doesnt use opengl all the time =)
[04:08] <Tm_T> off ->
[04:08] <oldwulf> Later all.
[04:10] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Maybe the .IFO file is bad?
[04:10] <crazy_bus> Is their anyway to fix it?
[04:11] <vers> why does adept say some other program is using it?...i cant do anything on adept without closing the other program but i dont know what it is
[04:11] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: I don't know how to test a .IFO
[04:11] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix | vers
[04:11] <ubotu> vers: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:11] <crazy_bus> would it be k9copy that made a bad ifo or is it the dvd I'm trying to copy
[04:12] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Lets go with k9copy and hope ;)
[04:12] <vers> pipe it through less or more?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> vers: neither
[04:13] <DaSkreech> hi Riddell
[04:14] <vers> so its good.....
[04:16] <contrast83> Any word on if/when Beta 4 is hitting Gutsy's repos?
[04:16] <vers> i love this..thanks ubotu
[04:20] <DaSkreech> contrast83: Anyday now
[04:21] <kalorin_> hola
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Hey what was that with mplayer -vo help ?
[04:21] <kalorin_> hey question
[04:21] <kalorin_> the xorg nvidia drivers
[04:21] <kalorin_> they should do dual monitor right?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> !dualhead | kalorin_
[04:22] <ubotu> kalorin_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:22] <kalorin_> via xinerama right
[04:22] <kalorin_> how can i tell if i'm using them right now?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> !xinerama :)
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinerama :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Doh
[04:22] <sub[t]rnl> nvidia-settings will take care of you too
[04:23] <kalorin_> is that a package?
[04:23] <kalorin_> with gusty, I was running the nvidia drivers
[04:23] <DaSkreech> !xinerama
[04:23] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:23] <sub[t]rnl> mhmm
[04:23] <kalorin_> trying to decide if I want to use the xorg drivers now or not
[04:27] <kalorin_> in fact, fi I've got an nvidia card, is there any reason not to remove all the other drivers other than the nv driver?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Night all
[04:29] <vers> fda
[04:29] <X314Z159> is amarok supposed to be all slow and stuff everytime you do something with it?
[04:30] <MagicCow> Damn, I gotta say, after using linux, namely ubuntu, for 2 months, there is not really any going back.
[04:30] <MagicCow> This information has to get out.
[04:32] <vsudilov> .
[04:33] <str8wak> hello all
[04:34] <MagicCow> I'm curious, how do people who don't know how to program help linux?
[04:34] <hydrogen> translations
[04:34] <hydrogen> support
[04:34] <hydrogen> documentation
[04:34] <hydrogen> testing
[04:34] <hydrogen> learning to program!
[04:35] <Jucato> and learning *not* to program
[04:35] <Jucato> bwahahah!
[04:35] <MagicCow> Id like to help.. but I don't have the time to learn to program.
[04:35] <str8wak> I have a quick question, if you don't mind - I just installed kubuntu from ubuntu - so i have kubuntu and gnome - i was going to remove gnome and go to pure kubuntu - but being a newby, I wasn't sure if Synaptic was used on kubuntu or if that was a gnome specific?
[04:35] <hydrogen> .. learning how to make good jokes...!
[04:35] <hydrogen> (you can see jucato is still practicing..)
[04:35] <MagicCow> Kubuntu has Adept.
[04:35] <Jucato> :P
[04:35] <MagicCow> I believe.. I am new too.
[04:35] <hydrogen> however
[04:35] <hydrogen> synaptic is more polished than synaptic
[04:36] <Jucato> str8wak: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:36] <MagicCow> Oh, but I did learn that you can remove all of the gnome applications, so you don't need to fresh install kubuntu.
[04:36] <vsudilov> Ok how do I enable openGL once I've installed and enabled my nvidia-legacy driver?
[04:36] <Jucato> hydrogen: what? :)
[04:36] <MagicCow> Yes, via tht link ;)
[04:36] <Jucato> hydrogen: how can synaptic be more polished than synaptic? :P
[04:36] <kalorin_> adept
[04:36] <MagicCow> Than the older versions?
[04:36] <MagicCow> :D
[04:36] <kalorin_> I like it better
[04:36] <hydrogen> Jucato: oh well, you know
[04:36] <hydrogen> it just is!
[04:36] <hydrogen> its a gnome thing.
[04:37] <kalorin_> ok is there an nvidia control panel for nvidia's free drivers?
[04:37] <str8wak> Jucato, thank you. so i'm assuming Synaptic=adept ..? if i remove gnome, will it also remove adept?
[04:37] <Jucato> MagicCow: there are many, many ways to help without knowing how to program. the ones that hydrogen listed
[04:37] <str8wak> err, if i remove gnome, will it remove synaptic?
[04:37] <kalorin_> I jsut want to be able to configure these monitors
[04:37] <Jucato> str8wak: just follow that guide. and yes, synaptic will be removed
[04:37] <MagicCow> I believe so.
[04:37] <kalorin_> dang, nice netsplit
[04:37] <Jucato> but you can reinstall it if you want
[04:37] <MagicCow> But Adept isn't terrible.. you just have to think a bit more.
[04:38] <hydrogen> well
[04:38] <hydrogen> and pray a bit more
[04:38] <str8wak> ok, I will give it a try, i am really liking kubuntu - works great and has alot more options!
[04:38] <hydrogen> and not actually use parts of it
[04:38] <MagicCow> Never had a problem with it.
[04:38] <str8wak> thank you for your help, you guys are great!
[04:38] <MagicCow> Yeah, I made the k switch about a week ago.
[04:38] <hydrogen> have you ever tried to actually install something using add/remove programs?
[04:38] <MagicCow> Really happy I did.
[04:38] <Jucato> MagicCow: you can also learn and help w/ packaging without knowing much programming (or so they say)
[04:39] <Jucato> MagicCow: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EasyWaysToHelpUbuntu and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[04:39] <MagicCow> Excellent, thanks
[04:40]  * str8wak away
[04:40] <X314Z159> meep. still, is amarok suposed to stop for 5-10 every time you do anything with it?
[04:40] <hydrogen> no
[04:40] <MagicCow> Oh, another question: Is it illegal to burn and distribute Ubuntu? I know it seems like a silly question seeing as it's open source.. but they say "Buy a CD and pass it around."
[04:40] <kalorin_> !nvidia
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <MagicCow> Why not just download and burn, then pass around.
[04:41] <juan> hi all!!!!!!!! what does "acpi=off" on a laptop do?
[04:41] <X314Z159> any idea why it is doing that?
[04:41] <hydrogen> you can download and burn MagicCow
[04:41] <Jucato> MagicCow: not illlegal
[04:41] <MagicCow> k
[04:41] <Jucato> MagicCow: of course, by buying you're helping to support the distro :)
[04:41] <aleks> k onda?
[04:41] <hydrogen> you could also request a bunch via shipit
[04:41] <Jucato> you can even sell it to others, and that's not illegal either
[04:41] <hydrogen> and "harm" the distro!
[04:41] <hydrogen> it all depends on your muud
[04:41] <Jucato> :)
[04:42] <Jucato> muud = Multi User User Dungeon?
[04:42] <hydrogen> mooed?
[04:42] <hydrogen> I like that better!
[04:42] <MagicCow> ACPI (Advanced Configuration Power Interface) refers to a Power Management specification developed by Intel, Microsoft and Toshiba. The specification allows an operating system to control the power distribution to peripherals such as hard drives, it was originally intended for laptops/notebooks where power saving is vital.
[04:42] <Jucato> :)
[04:42] <susana_> hola
[04:42] <hydrogen> Jucato: the first one is multi user underwater dungeon
[04:42] <hydrogen> obviously
[04:42] <Jucato> aaah
[04:42] <MagicCow> I heard sometimes linux has problems with ACPI, so in some instances it is prefered to turn it off if having trouble starting up.
[04:42] <susana_> alquien me ayuda
[04:43] <Jucato> !es | susana_
[04:43] <ubotu> susana_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:43] <susana_> quiero entrar a la sala en español
[04:43] <hydrogen> !inuitikuk
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inuitikuk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> I think the problem is more of  a "The Bios Makers Mucked up the APCI standard, and dident follow it" issue.
[04:43] <hydrogen> I thought so :/
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> oops acpi :)
[04:43] <juan> the thing is that i have a toshiba laptop with no sound and there is a possibl solution but with acpi=off
[04:43] <MagicCow> For the eskimo in all of us.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> EskiMOOO ? :)
[04:44] <X314Z159> Dr_Willis: standards where made to be broken... apparently
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> X314Z159 :) yep. blame linux for it! :0
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> while windows can define their own standards.. then break them :)
[04:45] <kevin_> windows has standards?
[04:46] <X314Z159> Dr_Willis: I blame Society! and most of all.. cthulhu
[04:46] <X314Z159> o.o
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Standard for windows  -> "Milk all the $$ you can out of the Cattle we call users" :)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> X314Z159 do not mention he that must not be named!
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:46] <hydrogen> standard for this channel -> stay on topic!
[04:46] <hydrogen> :)
[04:46] <hydrogen> bet you didn't see that one coming!
[04:47] <kevin_> tok
[04:47] <X314Z159> Dr_Willis:  hehe :P
[04:48] <kevin_> My computer crashed when I upgraded to Gutsy
[04:48] <X314Z159> hydrogen: well.. do you have a clue what to do with my amarok problem?
[04:48] <hydrogen> fix it.
[04:48] <kevin_> so i had to get the disk
[04:48] <kevin_> an lose all my data
[04:48] <X314Z159> hydrogen: Good idea -.-
[04:50] <X314Z159> hydrogen: how?
[04:51] <ubuntu> k ondaaa
[04:51] <Jucato> netsplit again? O.o
[04:52] <FireTek> hey, can someone please help me install my printer drivers on here
[04:52] <robby> !compiz
[04:52] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:53] <kevin_> compiz rocks
[04:53] <FireTek> PLEASE :)
[04:53] <Jucato> !printers
[04:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:54] <ubuntu> heyyyyyyyyy
[04:54] <tuxwulf> What is compiz and why do some people type a ! in front of it ...?
[04:54] <ubuntu> kubuntu-es_
[04:54] <ubuntu> ?
[04:55] <kevin_> ?
[04:55] <X314> okay. I have a problem. if amarok stops for 5-10s if i do anything with it.. change song, or whatever.. how does one fix that?
[04:55] <Jucato> !es | ubuntu
[04:55] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> tuxwulf ! are bot commands
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> !botsnack
[04:55] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> See A:0
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !ubotu
[04:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:56] <tuxwulf> Dr_Willis: What is a bot command?
[04:56] <vers> !adept crash fix
[04:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Compiz is the 'program' that gives ubuntu the fancy 3d desktop effects
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> tuxwulf  a !botsnack  is an example of a bot command
[04:56] <Jucato> tuxwulf: a bot command is a command that you give the bot (ubotu)
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !love
[04:56] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[04:57] <kalorin_> ok
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !ubuntu
[04:57] <kalorin_> dr_williss
[04:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <kalorin_> anyone have any idea what would cause nvidia-config to segfault?
[04:57] <tuxwulf> .... eh...? Oh. So ubotu is literaally only a bot, like compiz to KDE, an irc enhancement....
[04:57] <kalorin_> gives me a core
[04:58] <Jucato> tuxwulf: ubotu (the bot) has nothing to do with compiz, kde, etc
[04:58] <kalorin_> sudo or otherwise, I get a segfault and core
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> tuxwulf ubotu is most likely some programed/scripted IRC client thats running on a machine somwehre. :)
[04:58] <kalorin_> well it says core dumped but I don' tsee one
[04:58] <froggles_> he probobly meant #kde
[04:58] <tuxwulf> Jucato, Dr Willis> Check... I think I get it.. thanks!
[04:58] <Jucato> tuxwulf: ubotu is an IRC bot. period
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Ubotu us just a simple bot :) he can also do some other neat tricks
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !find  rocks
[04:59] <ubotu> Found: rocksndiamonds
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !info rocksndiamonds
[04:59] <ubotu> rocksndiamonds: Arcade style game. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 3.2.3-3 (gutsy), package size 384 kB, installed size 1256 kB
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Thats a MUST get game for your Ubuntu install. :)
[05:00] <kevin_> !find woot
[05:00] <kevin_> didn't work
[05:00] <ubotu> Package/file woot does not exist in gutsy
[05:00] <kevin_> it did
[05:00] <FireTek> got it... thanks :)
[05:00] <kevin_> what is ubotus script/where can i get it?
[05:01] <Jucato> ubotu: tell kevin_ about ubotu
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !ubotu
[05:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:01] <kevin_> coooooool
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> that site may say. :)
[05:01] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: I think we've had enough !factoids in here already :)
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Jucato now if the people would READ them. :)
[05:01] <hydrogen> !jucato
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jucato - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: redirect the factoid, and they will notice :)
[05:02] <hydrogen> Oo
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I wonder who put in the !love factoid.
[05:02] <Jucato> it's an old one... can't recall
[05:02] <kalorin_> anyone?
[05:03] <kalorin_> xorg nvidia driver
[05:03] <kalorin_> I can't get it to run the nvidia-xconfig
[05:03] <kalorin_> just segfaults on me
[05:03] <tuxwulf> So what does !Jucato do ...?
[05:03] <Jucato> tuxwulf: nothing
[05:03] <kalorin_> I hate to install the propriatary drivers because I think that's what blew up my upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[05:03] <hydrogen> makes the Jucato angry that we keep highlighting him!
[05:03] <hydrogen> right Jucato?
[05:03] <tuxwulf> Jucato: Hydrogen is joking, I guess ...?
[05:04] <Jucato> tuxwulf:  <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about _______ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi <--- standard reply if there's no factoid or info about it
[05:04] <Jucato> hydrogen: yes
[05:04] <Jucato> tuxwulf: yes
[05:04] <susana_> sala en español
[05:04] <tuxwulf> Okay...!
[05:04] <hydrogen> okay Jucato
[05:04] <hydrogen> !es | susana_
[05:04] <ubotu> susana_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:04] <Jucato> hydrogen: although the highlighting is less annoying than the beeping....
[05:05]  * Jucato has set konvi to beep when highlighted/PM'ed...
[05:05] <tuxwulf> Interesting, and I thought ubotu was some arch-father of Ubuntu, multilingual and everything...
[05:05]  * hydrogen uses the osd instead of teh beep
[05:06] <tuxwulf> How come ubotu showed up in a new window in y Konversation ..?
[05:06] <Jucato> you didn't read the wiki page about the bot did you?
[05:07] <tuxwulf> Jucato > ... eh no.. I will do that right now ..
[05:07] <kevin_> !ubotu
[05:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:07] <Jucato> there it is again.. for the *fourth time*!
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i dident do it. :)
[05:08] <Jucato> of course you dident
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Im reading up on the Asus Eee machine. :)
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Looks cool. but its a bit more $$ then id heard.
[05:09] <Jucato> it came out a bit more expensive than planned... yet still within budget
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> For a toy for me for Xmas.. its a little harder to justify. But  I imagine in a few Mo. the prices will drop.
[05:10] <Jucato> there will be 8GB and 16GB versions. imho it's more than just a toy. halfway to serious work :)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> I aint going to do any work with it. :)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> i plan on using it as a video/Comic book reader
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> I figured as soon as i get one.. the wife will take it.. so i will need to get 2
[05:12] <Jucato> hehe well if ever you do decide to do work on it, it will be possible :)
[05:12] <Jucato> unlike other devices...
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> I just wonder how well it can do video
[05:13] <Jucato> it uses mplayer
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> All i do with my laptop at work is watch videos :)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> and read .cbr comic book files
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> and impress window users with my Linux-Fu
[05:13] <Jucato> heh I'll probably use mine to read ebooks in bed, on the road, or around the house :)
[05:13] <Jucato> *if* I get one :P
[05:13] <hydrogen> all I do at work is not sleep for days on end..
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> I was able to get a laptop on sale for like $350 for the wife a few weeks back.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> so getting this little thing. may get her mad at me. :)
[05:14] <Jucato> hehe almost the same price as the Eee PC... except it's probably bigger/heavier, no SSD, etc.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Yep.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> but it has a CD/DVD burner.. and so forth...
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> for her needs - she just sits it on her desk.. its only moved from one room to the next
[05:15] <Jucato> :)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> and of Course she sets the REs to be 800x600 so EVERYTHING is real big...
[05:15] <Jucato> different answers for different needs :)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> so she dosent need her glasses to play Solitare.
[05:18] <roob> hello all im on a new insall of 7.10 and i cant seem to use konqueror to use the internet...im trying to set up my sources
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> roob is Irc working?
[05:18] <kevin_> does knetworkmanager work?
[05:20] <roob> Dr_Willis: yea
[05:20] <roob> im using konversation.
[05:20] <roob> i can ping google.com
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> So New Kubuntu install, IRC works, konqueror does not.
[05:20] <roob> i just cant go there in konqueror
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> put in the ip address of google. that you get from the Ping reply
[05:20] <roob> possible old ~/.kde mucking things up?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen other people pop in here with "irc works" "web browser dont" issues.. but never have seen a actual fix/problem/reason as to whats going on.
[05:21] <roob> An error occurred while loading http://64.233.167.99:
[05:21] <roob> Could not connect to host http://64.233.167.99/.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> or even How its possible.
[05:22] <Jucato> usually a DNS problem afaik
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Hmm that url isent working here either. :)
[05:22] <roob> what repositorys should i uncomment from my sources.list?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> http://64.233.167.99
[05:22] <roob> Jucato when i ping it....it dns's dine
[05:22] <kalorin`> seriously, is anyone using the xorg nvidia drivers?
[05:22] <kalorin`> and having any luck with the nvidia-xconfig application?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> is NOT going to google for me either.
[05:22] <kalorin`> mine just keeps segfaulting
[05:22] <Jucato> kalorin`: you mean the "nv" drivers?
[05:22] <kalorin`> no idea why
[05:22] <kalorin`> yes
[05:23] <kalorin`> Jucato, yes the nv drivers
[05:23] <roob> !sources
[05:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:23] <Jucato> ah. hm...
[05:23] <Jucato> kalorin`: I'm not sure if the nv drivers use nvidia-xconfig in the first place...
[05:23] <kalorin`> ah
[05:23] <Jucato> just not sure, I always use nvidia-glx
[05:23] <kalorin`> k
[05:24] <roob> hmm
[05:24] <roob> im gonna try somthing brb
[05:24] <posingaspopular> Jucato keeps all thesuper secret video configurations under his cushions
[05:24]  * Jucato doesn't have cushions :P
[05:24] <posingaspopular> :(
[05:24] <Jucato> :P
[05:25] <kalorin`> what's the difference between that and using the one you can download from nvidia?
[05:25] <Jucato> nvidia-glx vs nvidia.com driver?
[05:25] <kalorin`> I had an ATI radeon card, nad I was using the ATI driver for it
[05:25] <kalorin`> then I got this nvidia and got the nvidia driver
[05:25] <kalorin`> when i tried to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 it blew up on some glLib stuff
[05:26] <kalorin`> yeah nvidia-glx vs nvidia.com
[05:26] <kalorin`> or for that matter nvidia-glx-new vs the others?
[05:26] <Jucato> nvidia-glx is packaged and tested to run on *buntu. nvidia.com driver you'll have to do the heavy lifting yourself
[05:26] <kalorin`> I just want to get it right so it doesn't blow up
[05:26] <kalorin`> ah
[05:26] <Jucato> nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new are the 3 types of drivers depending on the support for your card
[05:26] <Jucato> !nvidia
[05:26] <kalorin`> will it be able to do an upgrade without hopefully having a package that it needs to both install and update (that's what it saida bout this package)
[05:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <roob> !sources
[05:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:27] <roob> tunrs out it was the old ~/.kde
[05:28] <roob> !gutsy
[05:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[05:30] <kalorin`> ok I can go with the -new variety, i thin the 8600gt will do taht :0
[05:35] <kalorin`> ok that's a winner
[05:35] <kalorin`> thanks
[05:36] <kalorin`> actually, it's the very newest version off the website from nvidia as well which is interesting
[05:36] <john__> hello  ... alguien habla español???
[05:36] <kalorin`> !es
[05:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:37] <ardchoille> !info netstat
[05:37] <ubotu> Package netstat does not exist in gutsy
[05:37] <Lynoure> I'm getting weird hotplug behaviour: stuff basicly gets prompted for twice, once with my normal icon theme on the window, once with the default one.
[05:37] <john__> gracias ...
[05:38] <ardchoille> I typed "netstat" in a terminal and it was basically blank. Is it supposed to be blank?
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[05:40] <mohsen> hello
[05:40] <lubos_> when I start x by X command I can see mouse piinter as a cross(X) is it possible to change it to arrow?
[05:41] <Lynoure> ardchoille: did you let it run its course or did you interrupt it after waiting a bit? :)
[05:41] <Lynoure> ardchoille: it's not the fastest command in the world, by far
[05:43] <ardchoille> Lynoure: netstat -n was faster
[05:43] <posingaspopular> !hi | mohsen
[05:43] <ubotu> mohsen: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:44] <Lynoure> ardchoille: yes, it is, no name lookups. I think they would have done well setting defaults the other way around
[05:45] <mohsen> hi, I am first time in thie chat. must I somthing to do?
[05:45] <ardchoille> Lynoure: I agree
[05:45] <Lynoure> mohsen: nothing, really. Ask or answer support questions.
[05:45] <ardchoille> mohsen: This channel is basically for help with Kubuntu. You can watch and learn, like I do, or you can ask questions :)
[05:46] <meuhlol> hi all
[05:46] <Lynoure> ardchoille: I assume you don't have the weird double prompt thing I described above?
[05:46] <ardchoille> Lynoure: I don't
[05:47] <Lynoure> ardchoille: ok, I'll dig into it a bit before taking in seriously, then :)
[05:53] <posingaspopular> !hi | meuhlol
[05:53] <ubotu> meuhlol: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:53] <purpleposeidon> posingaspopular: .... wow. I am impressed.
[05:55] <posingaspopular> purpleposeidon: at my ability to !hi everyone?
[05:55] <purpleposeidon> At your lack of humanity.
[05:56] <mohsen> I want to register in another Chat too, but I can not.  The Server is irc.freenode.de  and the Channel:#easy-club. can you help me?
[05:56] <posingaspopular> im just busy with other homework....
[05:57] <Jucato> mohsen: go to the freenode site for instructions on how to register a channel.
[05:57] <Jucato> mohsen: or try to go to #freenode (or #freenode-social)
[05:58] <kyled185> !hi | kyled185
[05:58] <kyled185> well that's no fun
[05:58] <zhaoyang> hi
[05:59] <kyled185> greetings
[05:59] <purpleposeidon> !hi | ubotu
[05:59] <ubotu> ubotu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:59] <zhaoyang> i'm new to irc
[05:59] <purpleposeidon> !hi | !hi ubotu
[05:59] <ubotu> !hi please see above
[06:00] <purpleposeidon> oooh, tough guy, eh?
[06:00] <kyled185> anyone know when KDE beta 4 binaries will become available
[06:00] <zhaoyang> i'm using kubuntu
[06:00] <zhaoyang> looking forward to KDE beta 4,too
[06:00] <posingaspopular> kyled185: i know for sure that it's available for checkout via subversion, i can find out in two seconds
[06:01] <Jucato> posingaspopular: he was looking for packages...
[06:01] <Jucato> nixternal: ping ^^^^ :)
[06:01] <contrast83> zhaoyang: Is that hitting the repos soon?
[06:01] <nixternal> huh?
[06:01] <posingaspopular> Jucato: yea i just pinged him in the loco chan
[06:01] <Jucato> nixternal:  <kyled185> anyone know when KDE beta 4 binaries will become available
[06:01] <Jucato> hahah! he's in demand :)
[06:02] <nixternal> they are in our ppa, we need to fix a couple FTBS on kdelibs and kdebase, then upload to universe
[06:02] <nixternal> gotta wait for the man to say yes though :
[06:02] <nixternal> :)
[06:02] <Jucato> *the* man? oh ok :)
[06:02] <kyled185> w00t
[06:02]  * Jucato lets nixternal go to sleep now :)
[06:02] <nixternal> thanks boss!
[06:02] <nixternal> k'nite
[06:02] <Jucato> hahaha ;)
[06:03] <zhaoyang> a little slow
[06:03] <purpleposeidon> lol
[06:04] <zhaoyang> i couldn't tell there's much different between gnome
[06:04] <contrast83> Gutsy is kicking my wireless card's arse... Could someone please help me out? I've tried pretty much everything at this point, and gotten nowhere.
[06:05] <eagles0513875> !dpkg
[06:05] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:05] <kyled185> I've been having issues with my ipw3945 as well. I think I've just accepted that it's a crappy card and am getting on with life.
[06:05] <purpleposeidon> How big are the repositories?
[06:05] <eagles0513875> i need help with dpkging wicd as well as hydrogen i get an error
[06:05] <contrast83> Well, this card worked pretty much flawlessly in Feisty. Now it'll just randomly lose the connection and rebooting is the only thing that gets it working again.
[06:06] <eagles0513875> purpleposeidon: with all repos anabled there r about 23,000 pkgs
[06:06] <purpleposeidon> Yes, but in GB?
[06:06] <kyled185> contrast83, me too what kind of card do you have?
[06:06] <purpleposeidon> contrast83: That's interesting, I have the same problem in fiesty
[06:06] <eagles0513875> purple
[06:06] <eagles0513875> i think u would be able to get all the repos cuz canonical is based in the uk
[06:06] <contrast83> I've already tried restarting the networking and dbus init scripts, no dice. I also switched to wireless-tools from NetworkManager, which seemed to help for a little while, but maybe that was just an illusion.
[06:06] <contrast83> Cisco Aironet
[06:07] <eagles0513875> contrast83: did u uninstall it
[06:07] <contrast83> eagles0513875: What, networkmanager? Yeah.
[06:07] <eagles0513875> contrast83: i keep getting a dpkg error
[06:07] <contrast83> Umm... ?
[06:07] <zhaoyang> i gotta to the classroom,buy guys
[06:07] <eagles0513875> when trying to install wicd and when i try tondencies remove network manager it says it will break depe
[06:08] <contrast83> I'm unfamiliar with wicd.
[06:09] <contrast83> I'm just using KWifiManager as a frontend to the wireless-tools CLI apps, which are installed by default.
[06:09] <contrast83> You sure wicd doesn't depend on networkmanager?
[06:10] <eagles0513875> contrast83: its a wired and wireless manager
[06:10] <eagles0513875> well i got to go for now ill wry abou tthis when i get home
[06:10] <contrast83> Good luck. Later
[06:10] <eagles0513875> thanks times for a long day of java lecture 4 hrs of it
[06:10] <contrast83> O_O
[06:12] <eagles0513875> im an IT major so it comes with the degree lol
[06:12] <eagles0513875> i enjoy it as long as we rnt learning somethign new then i get rather frustrated
[06:12] <eagles0513875> later guys
[06:13] <contrast83> lol I thought learning new things was the point of paying someone to lecture you about it. :-P
[06:14] <tuxwulf> !ubotu | tuxwulf
[06:19] <tuxwulf> ok
[06:21] <divad> hello
[06:22] <divad> is it possible to change the resolution in kubuntu?
[06:28] <tuxwulf> Which movie player is suggested?
[06:28] <tuxwulf> divad > Yes, but it depends on your hardware
[06:29] <divad> vlc player, I hear is good
[06:29] <divad> I have an intel intergrated video card. on xp I get 1024x768
[06:29] <tuxwulf> And on Kubuntu...?
[06:30] <divad> i dont know but it doesnt look like 1024x768. how do i find out?
[06:30] <koyote> what would I use to convert flv to mpeg4?
[06:31] <koyote> actually, I suppose mpeg4+aac for my ipod would be best
[06:31] <tuxwulf> divad > K menu - system settings - monitor& display
[06:31] <mohsen> Bye
[06:32] <krawek> koyote: ffmpeg, mencoder...
[06:32] <Safe> help, i need help setting up my wireless network?
[06:32] <tuxwulf> Safe > Tell me...
[06:32] <Safe> lol
[06:33] <koyote> okay, I'll look. that's all I needed.
[06:33] <Jucato> !wireless | Safe
[06:33] <ubotu> Safe: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:33] <Safe> card is active but i cannot connect to the web
[06:33] <Ayabara> hey. I'm running kubuntu with ati graphics in "big desktop" mode. when I try to maximize emacs it won't work. on my primary laptop screen it doesn't fill the screen, and on the secondary it seems to try to maximize but gives up and snaps back to the size it was.
[06:34] <kyled185> *cough* vi *cough*
[06:35] <Safe> it says theres no linux driver for my card but it worked before
[06:35] <Ayabara> kyled185: :-)
[06:35] <supert0ne1> any word yet on kubuntu kde beta 4?
[06:36] <Safe> whats the ndis wrapper program?
[06:36] <Jucato> [14:02] <nixternal> they are in our ppa, we need to fix a couple FTBS on kdelibs and kdebase, then upload to universe [14:02] <nixternal> gotta wait for the man to say yes though :
[06:36] <Jucato> supert0ne1: ^^^^
[06:36] <divad> ok it is set at max. guess the task bar is just huge
[06:36] <supert0ne1> heh
[06:36] <Jucato> FTBS = Failed to Build from Source, btw
[06:38] <tuxwulf> divad > That can be right-clicked and adjusted
[06:39] <Safe> !ndis
[06:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:46] <Safe> yeah those ubuntu docs are pretty worthless
[06:47] <Safe> amd ou of date
[06:47] <Safe> and out of date
[06:49] <Safe> well i guess its back to ubuntu since theres so little documentation on kubuntu
[06:52] <tuxwulf> Safe > I got all mine working on Kubuntu....
[07:01] <Henri24> hi, kubuntu is wasted, grub is not doing its job, the HDD where kubuntu was is still working trough.. so i can fix grub from insde when it tries to boot ?
[07:01] <Henri24> i know how to boot windows from the grub interface, just not how to save that
[07:02] <Henri24> is urgent, can someone help me ?
[07:03] <Novell> hi, is the profiles in knetworkmanager broken ? I tried setting up 3 different profiles, but it really doesn't seem to work. Whatever I do, I can't get it to set a static IP for two of the profiles, it just gets another IP I used for a different network.. I'm using gutsy
[07:04] <Novell> the third one is using dhcp and seems to be set to dhcp correctly
[07:15] <magneto73> buongiorno
[07:31] <tuxwulf> !ubotu
[07:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:40] <sirjoshimus> has kde4 been released?
[07:41] <tuxwulf> !wep | tuxwulf
[07:41] <sirjoshimus> has kde4 been released?
[07:41] <sirjoshimus> !kde
[07:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gusty and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[07:46] <sebr> sooo
[07:46] <sebr> i have a bit of a catch 22
[07:46] <sebr> seb@hammerhead:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:46] <sebr>    [snip]
[07:46] <sebr>  /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line 13: getopt: command not found
[07:47] <sebr> seb@hammerhead:~$ sudo apt-get install util-linux
[07:47] <sebr> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:58] <progress0r> having a weird problem here. Just did a fresh install of gutsy. Apparantly i have no mixer. Bizarre. I cant see anything in dmesg either. If I go to a mixer it says 'select mixer' of which there are no choices. I have set it to alsa which i have always done before and it restarted but nada.
[08:15] <Gambit> !iceape
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iceape - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <Gambit> !iceweasel
[08:15] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[08:18] <dad__> Hello
[08:18] <dad__> Anyone here?  I've never used this
[08:19] <sebr> yes
[08:22] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <kopi___> hi now im on live cd my x has crashed after installin nvidia-gl-new driver.....how do i fix this problem?.....im a newbie......can any one help?
[08:24] <kopi___> hi now im on live cd my x has crashed after installin nvidia-gl-new driver.....how do i fix this problem?.....im a newbie......can any one help?
[08:26] <se7en^Of^9> kopi___: change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to Driver nv and restart X
[08:27] <kopi___> can any one help plz with how to restore x?
[08:27] <kopi___> se7en^Of^9: how do i do that?
[08:28] <kopi___> se7en^Of^9: how do i do that?.....im on live cd
[08:30] <se7en^Of^9> kopi___: boot in your system and log in the terminal
[08:30] <kopi___> se7en^Of^9:what do i do after that?
[08:32] <se7en^Of^9> run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your x server ... if you are finished run startx from the termimal and x should start again
[08:32] <bazhang> kopi___: you installed the new driver, right? take out the live cd and reboot, then start up in safe mode change to nv then you'll be ok
[08:33] <bazhang> or do it se7en^Of^9's way, kopi___
[08:35] <bazhang> hmm. wonder if he did it.
[08:36] <se7en^Of^9> bazhang: i think he is on the way ... :0
[08:37] <bazhang> good to know se7en^Of^9 :}
[09:02] <malik__> ow do i know if i have installed RC version or full version or kubuntu 7.10?
[09:03] <bazhang> sudo lsb_release -a malik__
[09:04] <bazhang> also check if you have about 500 updates or so :} malik__
[09:05] <bazhang> err that would be the beta..90 updates or thereabouts
[09:05] <ardchoille> bazhang: Don't really need sudo for lsb_release
[09:05] <malik__> its says ubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[09:05] <bazhang> ardchoille: ok. thanks! :}
[09:06] <ardchoille> bazhang: On the other hand, it doesn't hurt anything either :)
[09:06] <bazhang> malik__: are you up to date?
[09:06] <bazhang> ardchoille: my thinking exactly :}
[09:06] <malik__> how do i know that?
[09:06] <ardchoille> malik__: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[09:08] <malik__> ardchoille: nothin happened......says 0 installed or upgraded or removed
[09:08] <ardchoille> malik__: Then your system is up to date
[09:08] <bazhang> !welcome | malik__
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <bazhang> ugh
[09:09] <ardchoille> I thought that was a valid factoid
[09:09] <bazhang> me too
[09:09] <bazhang> perhaps !hello is the one
[09:09] <ardchoille> I remember !welcome being a vlid factoid. I think someone erased it
[09:10] <Arsanerit> Hi, I'm trying to relay mail to a smarthost using SSL and SMTP AUTH with exim4, and I downloaded a certificate. How do I install the certificate and tell exim4 to use it?
[09:12] <bazhang> well the bot was down yesterday, so maybe he still has the flu.
[09:16] <bazhang> Arsanerit: which mail client?
[09:17] <Arsanerit> bazhang: Forwarding with procmail and sending with mutt.
[09:17] <bazhang> Arsanerit: anyone in #mutt?
[09:17] <Arsanerit> bazhang: So the mail should be delivered to the local MTA, which should relay it to the relayhost/smarthost.
[09:18] <Arsanerit> bazhang: Mutt is not involved.
[09:18] <Arsanerit> bazhang: The configuration is exim.
[09:18] <Arsanerit> bazhang: Whether I forward with procmail, send with 'mail' or 'mutt' or use another application, exim4 should relay my e-mail to the smarthost.
[09:19] <bazhang> Arsanerit: nice to know; not really my limited area of knowledge--sorry
[09:19] <Arsanerit> I will ask in #exim but it's kinda quiet.
[09:20] <bazhang> Arsanerit: you could come back here when the true knowledge hounds are awake as well.
[09:21] <Arsanerit> When is that?
[09:21] <bazhang> 9-10 am edt
[09:22] <Arsanerit> what is the current time in edt?
[09:24] <ardchoille> Tuesday, November 6, 2007 at 4:24:12 AM EST
[09:24] <ardchoille> Arsanerit:  http://www.timeanddate.com/
[09:24] <Arsanerit> ardchoille: The timezone abbreviation is not unique, but okay.
[09:25] <Arsanerit> Hm, I found a reference: http://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20051015.144822.88a377c1.html this person is at the same uni as me
[09:26] <ardchoille> Arsanerit: Oh, sorry, I thought you were looking for Eastern Daylight Time
[09:27] <Arsanerit> Hmm
[09:27] <Arsanerit> It seems exim4 does not support it: http://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20051015.151258.b9b77e80.en.html
[09:27] <Arsanerit> That is unfortunate.
[09:27] <bazhang> sad to hear
[09:27] <enoj_> Is there a good alternative to KNetworkManager, which alows for being connected to wired network and wireless at the same time?
[09:28] <bazhang> enoj_: some have recommend wicd; never used it myself--wicd.longren.com
[09:28] <bazhang> enoj_: oh wait--at the same time? why would you even want that?
[09:28] <enoj_> Also, isn't it possible to use a 128-bit hex key for WEP with KNetworkManager? I try to connect but the option never appears, and I've tried with all the other options and it fails.. And it's not a problem with the network, I just configured a windows computer with the exact same credentials.. Any ideas?
[09:29] <enoj_> bazhang: I'm unable to connect to a wireless network which uses 128-bit hex key for WEP .. (don't ask me why, not my network), and I want to be online using wired while trying to connect to wireless
[09:31] <bazhang> enoj_: as far as I am aware, that is not possible--if you are wired, then the wireless can be configured, but having both at the same time doesn't work.
[09:32] <enoj_> bazhang: well nevermind that then, it's not that important. Do you have any idea regarding 128-bit WEP hex ?
[09:32] <ubuntu> siemano
[09:32] <ubuntu> huj wam w dupe
[09:32] <crolle17> where to start the firefox -profilemanager?
[09:33] <bazhang> ubuntu: this an English language channel
[09:33] <Jucato> crolle17: Press Alt+F2 and enter the command
[09:33] <enoj_> And I'm really not trying to be rude or anything now, but shouldn't the NetworkManager utility really be improved, to be able to compare to the Windows options? In Windows you can't risk not being able to connect to your network, at least .. I've had a bunch of issues with Knetworkmanager, where I've been unable to connect to networks, while the windows computer connects and works immediately ..
[09:34] <crolle17> Jucato, command == profilemanager?
[09:34] <bazhang> enoj_: I've had tons of issues with knetworkmanager in the past as well, usually just connect via the command line
[09:34] <Jucato> crolle17: "firefox -profilemanager" I think
[09:34] <Jucato> not really sure
[09:35] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> howcome it takes my limewire so long to open
[09:35] <enoj_> bazhang: what tools do you use for that? I'm only aware of 'ifconfig', do you configure wireless there as well?
[09:35] <crolle17> Jucato, but no profilemanager is openening
[09:35] <Jucato> crolle17: I'm not sure of the command
[09:35] <bazhang> enoj_: I tend to use iwconfig
[09:35] <crolle17> Jucato, it just opens the firefox itself
[09:35] <DonalR> enoj_ - the iwconfig is used to configure wireless
[09:36] <enoj_> bazhang, DonalR: thanks
[09:36] <bazhang> enoj_: no worries :}
[09:36] <ardchoille> crolle17: does man firefox have anything interesting?
[09:37] <ardchoille> Note to self: it helps to actually have the app installed before you try alunching man <app_name>
[09:37] <Jucato> crolle17: what command are you entering? are you sure you didn't forget the dash before profilemanager?
[09:37] <DonalR> enoj_ - I've found that 'iwconfig' and some of the GUI config tools sometimes conflict with one another on my lappy.  It may be dificult to use both
[09:38] <crolle17> ardchoille, not at all
[09:38] <crolle17> Jucato, firefox -profilemanager
[09:38] <Jucato> hmmm
[09:38] <Nipa> hello everyone
[09:38] <bazhang> hi!
[09:38] <Nipa> i've joined the IRC because i have a problem with my dualmonitor setup
[09:38] <Nipa> i wish to use twinview,
[09:39] <crolle17> ardchoille, in the man-page there is no profilemanager mentioned.
[09:39] <Nipa> but i need one monitor 90 degrees rotated
[09:39] <bazhang> !twinview | Nipa
[09:39] <ubotu> Nipa: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[09:39] <Nipa> if i add in two lines in xorg.conf, it rotates both
[09:39] <Nipa> wait, i have another idea
[09:39] <Nipa> if i get rid of the dualmonitor support
[09:39] <Nipa> i only have one monitor
[09:39] <Nipa> the one that should be rotated
[09:39] <Nipa> how can i use my OTHER monitor
[09:40] <Nipa> with the one that should be rotated disabled?
[09:40] <bazhang> Nipa: hardware-wise?
[09:40] <enoj_> DonalR: well, I'm just thinking to screw knetworkmanager alltogether and learn iwconfig :)
[09:40] <bazhang> enoj_: a wise choice
[09:40] <Nipa> let me explain my situation: i have two monitors, a 15" and a 17"
[09:40] <Nipa> my 17" is my main monitor
[09:40] <Nipa> my 15" is a rotated monitor
[09:41] <Nipa> now
[09:41] <Nipa> in kubuntu
[09:41] <Nipa> i've got both monitors working
[09:41] <Nipa> but my 15" isn't rotated
[09:41] <Nipa> and i want to use twinview: seperate x screen isn't the solution i want
[09:41] <Nipa> and if that can't be done
[09:41] <Nipa> how can i disable my 15"
[09:41] <Nipa> and use my 17" primary?
[09:42] <DonalR> enoj_ - I want to say that knetworkmanager runs as a 'daemon' of some sort.  You may find that things you set with 'iwconfig' change back unexpectedly sometimes if knetworkmanager is still hanging around
[09:42] <bazhang> Nipa: try to keep your replies on a couple of lines, instead of using the enter bar for puncutation
[09:42] <SteamMachine>  Hi, I'm looking for an app that will allow me to plan the layout of a house/room. Anyone know of such an app?
[09:42] <Nipa> oh okay
[09:43] <Nipa> i'm used to doing that, because i keep thinking i'll hit a character limit or something
[09:43] <bazhang> Nipa: did you look at the twinview wiki posted above?
[09:43] <Nipa> i'll have a look now, thanks
[09:43] <bazhang> no problem
[09:44] <enoj_> DonalR: so there's a deamon as well?
[09:44] <DonalR> SteamMachine - Gimp comes to mind.  have different objects in the room as seperate layers and you should be able to move, resize, rotate, etc. each one seperatly
[09:44] <SteamMachine> Hrm. It's possible - though not quite what I was hoping for.
[09:44] <SteamMachine> I'll keep it in mind.
[09:44] <ubuntu> jakie jest polecenie domontowania cd
[09:44] <ubuntu> ????
[09:45] <DonalR> enoj_ - I quoted "daemon" for a reason . . . I don't think the term in accurate
[09:45] <DonalR> none the less I've whitnessed the two 'fighting' with one another on my lappy.
[09:45] <bazhang> !pl | ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:46] <muchanic> SteamMachine - as an alternative to gimp, a vector program like inkscape might be easier to use
[09:46] <enoj_> DonalR: Ok i'll check it out.. thanks for all your help
[09:46] <DonalR> perhaps if you removed knetworkmanager, than maybe iwconfig would work better.  I am guessing, because I still use knetworkmanager without too many issues
[09:46] <Nipa> okay, i've looked through, and come up with another idea: forcing the 15" to have 768x1024 resolution. what would that do?
[09:46] <SteamMachine> muchanic: ah, possibly.
[09:46] <bazhang> Nipa: test it out :}
[09:47] <Nipa> and if it fails, what do i do?
[09:49] <DonalR> nipa - well, hopefully you've backed up any files you've been messing with.  If it doesn't work, just restore the backup and you're where you started again
[09:49] <Nipa> okay. here goes
[09:50] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-pl
[09:50] <steff> hi, where do i find a repository list that uses servers from a specific country. now the list contains servers from germany, but it would be nice if there is a place where i can get a list over servers from Denmark. is that posible?
[09:50] <ubuntu> jest ktos z polski ???????????????????/
[09:51] <bazhang> ubuntu: you need to type /join #ubuntu-pl
[09:52] <DonalR> steff - I'm not sure that there are servers for every country.  Just stick with one that's fairly close to home and you should be fine
[09:52] <ardchoille> !easysource | steff
[09:52] <ubotu> steff: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:53] <bazhang> steff: in adept, there should be a drop down menu, first which would list 'servers from germany', click on it and see whether it allows you to choose those Danish servers
[09:54] <steff> ardchoille: i try, thanks!
[09:54] <bazhang> ardchoille: does source o matic still work? It was down during Feisty, at least
[09:54] <steff> huh, i'm running gutsy
[09:54] <ardchoille> bazhang: Not sure, I'll try it now
[09:55] <steff> i can choose both gutsy and denmark so i think its good.! :)
[09:55] <ardchoille> bazhang: Seems to be working here
[09:55] <DonalR> steff - the instructions at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic are pretty clear, and you should have no prob generating a list for gutsy.  BTW - there do appear to be servers for Denmark
[09:56] <bazhang> ardchoille steff thanks! good to know
[09:56] <steff> yep, that source-o-matic thing is pretty cool, actually
[09:57] <bazhang> very
[09:57] <tmske__> hi, after setting network settings manually (manual configuration), how can you revert to let knetworkmanager do everything automaticly again?
[10:00] <DonalR> tmske - I think you just install / use knetworkmanager and it should just take over . . . I think
[10:02] <tmske> DonalR: I chose manual configuration in the menu of knetworkmanager, but I can't disable those settings
[10:04] <bazhang> tmske: do you have the knetworkmanager applet in your panel?
[10:04] <ChameleonGemini> hello
[10:05] <ssaamm4422> hi i'm just starting on linux and i installed gusty but i didn't want it to delete everything on my desktop so i didn't get the k screen  and now i want to download it were do i get it
[10:06] <ardchoille> ssaamm4422: Do you mean the kde desktop?
[10:06] <bazhang> ssaamm4422: when you say the 'k screen', what are you referring to?
[10:06] <ssaamm4422> ehm yes thanks
[10:07] <ssaamm4422> kde desktop
[10:07] <ardchoille> ssaamm4422: If you are referring to the kde desktop environment, open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:08] <ssaamm4422> ok thanks alot
[10:08] <ardchoille> ssaamm4422: Be aware that it will download a lot of packages
[10:08] <DonalR> tmske - what bazhang said, and, what did you change in the manual configuration?
[10:10] <tmske> bazhang, DonalR: yes I have the knetworkmanager applet
[10:11] <bazhang> tmske: right clicking on it should bring up the option configure
[10:11] <ssaamm4422> it didn't want to it said it was already a is the newest version
[10:12] <tmske> bazhang: yes, but I don't see an option to let knetworkmanager take over, so that the manual configuration doesn't matter any more
[10:12] <bazhang> ssaamm4422: are you sharing kubuntu with XP?
[10:13] <ssaamm4422> no with vista
[10:13] <tmske> I changed somthing about wireless, but now I don't want those settings anymore, I just want knetworkmanager to work automaticly again
[10:14] <ssaamm4422> but it worked with my brothers desktop
[10:14] <DonalR> tmske - do you recall what you changed?
[10:15] <tmske> DonalR: yes, set a static ip, but I've undone that allready, I've set it to dhcp now but that doesn't solve the problem
[10:16] <tmske> I think I should uncheck everything, because it's like that in my wired configuration where I didn't change anything, but I don't know how
[10:16] <tmske> there is also a button "defaults" but it's not enabled...
[10:18] <DonalR> tmske - what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:19] <tmske> DonalR: kubuntu gutsy
[10:21] <Hrast> Good Morning.. Can someone help me to get my Note Pavilion DV6000 work fine on Kubuntu 7.10?
[10:22] <DonalR> tmske - I 'think' you should be able to go to the Network Interfaces tab, click on the interface you want to configure, click the Configure Interface button, and choose Automatic under the TCP/IP Address int the new window.  Make sure dhcp is chosen in the dropdown list
[10:23] <bazhang> tmske: the phrase work automatically and knetworkmanager don't often happen together; some reason not to stick with current config (assuming it works)?
[10:23] <DonalR> tmske - I also have 'Activate when computer starts' selected in my config
[10:23] <bazhang> Hrast: you need to be more specific--what is the problem
[10:24] <Hrast> bazhang, I must start my Note with the acpi=off command.. and the soud seems to be "locked" with the mouse..
[10:24] <tmske> bazhang: because I switch networks a lot, and knetworkmanager did everything fine, untill I changed something in manual configuration, now I have to change things when I switch network
[10:25] <Hrast> I cannot install the Nvidia driver as well.
[10:25] <bazhang> Hrast: shared with Windows, or only the Kubuntu install?
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> tms
[10:26] <Hrast> bazhang, I have XP Pro too.. but see, with Kubuntu 7.04 I had no such problems..
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> tmske: so remove the ethx lines in /etc/network/interfaces, knetworkmanager should take over again
[10:27] <bazhang> Hrast: what do you mean sound is locked with mouse--screen freezes?
[10:27] <los> hi the room
[10:28] <Hrast> it seems so.. supose you log out.. it freezes.. If you move the mouse, the sound comes up, and it logs out..
[10:28] <los> i would like to install gnome on kubuntu but not the whole desktop is this possible?
[10:29] <WaltzingAlong> los: yes
[10:29] <los> how?
[10:29] <WaltzingAlong> los: install just the packages you need
[10:29] <KLocek> hello
[10:29] <Jucato> (although technically GNOME *is* a Desktop (Environment))
[10:30] <los> i just need it for some apps like firestarter to run properly?
[10:30] <bazhang> for those less discerning tastes, that is :}
[10:30] <tmske> WaltzingAlong: thanks, it works :-)
[10:30] <tmske> bazhang, DonalR: thanks for the time
[10:30] <Hrast> Bazhang, it seems so.. supose you log out.. it freezes.. If you move the mouse, the sound comes up, and it logs out..
[10:30] <Jucato> los: then just install the needed packages. Adept will take care of pulling those in
[10:30] <DonalR> los - 'sudo aptitude install firestarter'
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog
[10:30] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[10:31] <bazhang> tmske: good luck.
[10:31] <los> i've allready tried that but firestarter after a while closes it's shelf..
[10:32] <DonalR> tmske - fagedaboutit
[10:33] <SpinBoson> hey
[10:33] <SpinBoson> anyone try KDE4 beta yet?
[10:34] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: yes
[10:34] <DonalR> los - it has a shelf?  (not familiar with it)
[10:34] <bazhang> SpinBoson: yes
[10:34] <SpinBoson> Worth trying it? I mean, can I use it without it dying every 20 minutes?
[10:35] <bazhang> SpinBoson: there is a current liveCD you could try, the compile your own one, not so sure
[10:35] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: applications are in a very good shape, most of them are stable enought to be used, but workspace (almost plasma) is not stable yet
[10:35] <emilsedgh> s/enought/enough
[10:36] <colucci__> do you know where can i download a bi file in order to install divx plugin for mozilla firefox ???
[10:36] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: So it's basically good enough to play around in, then go back to 3 for some serious work?
[10:37] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: im using mix of them, i start a kde3 session + plasma and application from outside, when i need something that (for example) plasma panel hasnt, i use kicker (i hide it)
[10:37] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: Do you find a lot that plasma doesn't have?
[10:37] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: no, i found many things that plasma have
[10:38] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: but it hasnt some basic things, like system tray
[10:38] <DonalR> colucci - check out http://www.medibuntu.org/
[10:38] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: Odd - I'd think that'd be one of the first things they'd bring in
[10:38] <WaltzingAlong> !info mozilla-mplayer | colucci__
[10:38] <ubotu> colucci__: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.40-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[10:38] <sjck> Where do i find my CD/DVD-Rom? media/?
[10:39] <WaltzingAlong> SpinBoson: why is that
[10:39] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: first thing to do for a major release 'is' libraries
[10:40] <WaltzingAlong> foundation then cosmetics
[10:41] <emilsedgh> i should say that i cannot wait for a working systray applet inside the panel
[10:41] <SpinBoson> SpinBoson: True, so app development can be done. It's just turned into a common thing for me, I suppose?
[10:42] <Goodgame> hi
[10:42] <Goodgame> have someone ever used http://www.debuntu.org/iptables-how-to-share-your-internet-connection-p2 ?
[10:42] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: Yeah I bet. Do you like the other changes?
[10:42] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth (possibly) screwing up my system
[10:43] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: i love everything at there
[10:43] <SpinBoson> wow there's a lot of packages for it
[10:43] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: plasma is so cool, atm it does many jobs, except the basic ones :P
[10:44] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: lol. go figure, right?
[10:44] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: why you do not try it?
[10:44] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: did you install all the packages or just kde4base?
[10:44] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: I am about to =)
[10:44] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: no, i compiled svn
[10:44] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: thats so easy
[10:44] <AwhFuj> one of the rare moments where i need to restart ym ubuntu box
[10:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog | Goodgame
[10:45] <ubotu> goodgame: guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[10:45] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: svn = ?
[10:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info guidedog | Goodgame
[10:45] <ubotu> goodgame: guidedog: NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 124 kB, installed size 444 kB
[10:45] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: oh, the kde repositories where the developers commit their changes to = latest possible
[10:46] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: oh duh. it's like cvs but different. I knew that =)
[10:46] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: yeah, svn is something like cvs
[10:46] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: I've used it just had a brain fart
[10:47] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: no, there is a tutorial in techbase.kde.org that helps you step by step to compile
[10:48] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: Cool, i'll check it out
[10:53] <OuZo> hi, im trying to setup a home network with 2 kubuntu pc's, they can both ping each other, were can i look for help? thanks
[10:58] <emilsedgh> OuZo: whats the problem now?
[11:01] <emilsedgh> OuZo: so whats the problem now?
[11:02] <OuZo> smb:/ says it cant find any local workgroups
[11:02] <OuZo> then it sugests i could be behind a firewall
[11:02] <OuZo> which im not
[11:03] <OuZo> or @ least im not aware i have any enabled
[11:04] <emilsedgh> OuZo: why you use smb when they are both kubuntu? install openssh-server on one of them
[11:04] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: So it looks pretty - but I can't run anything from inside plasma, it seems
[11:04] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: ??
[11:05] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: So I've got it open in a Xephyr window. There's no start menu or anything like it
[11:05] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: hm, i open it in my kde3 session, kickoff menu is there
[11:05] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: also there is a launcher named 'lancelot' (which is playground), thats cool too
[11:06] <OuZo> emilsedgh: under "configure network connections" where it asks for "domain name", i take it can put anything but it must be the same on both pc's?
[11:06] <emilsedgh> OuZo: i dunno about smb, but if install openssh-server you will be able to share files easily using ssh
[11:06] <ubuntu> Hi all
[11:07] <OuZo> emilsedgh:  well i would like to be able to browse for computers on the network...
[11:07] <OuZo> graphically
[11:08] <ubuntu> A fully-Linux network ?
[11:08] <emilsedgh> OuZo: dunno, but openssh-server is reallyu easy to setup, you could use konqueror to browse and share files
[11:08] <OuZo> ok thanks im trying it
[11:10] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: ooo I found kickoff. It's nifty
[11:10] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: yup
[11:28] <SpinBoson> Can I disable strigi?
[11:31] <contrast83> SpinBoson: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge strigi-daemon strigi-plugins
[11:31] <SpinBoson> sweet ty. takes up way too much processor time
[11:31] <contrast83> SpinBoson: Or do you just mean temporarily?
[11:31] <contrast83> np
[11:31] <SpinBoson> nope. It finds files, I know where my files are =)
[11:31] <OuZo> were can i change the braudcast address in kde?
[11:31]  * contrast83 longs for a dual-core processor so he can actually use things like desktop search
[11:32] <contrast83> SpinBoson: Yeah, that's how I looked at things like Strigi for a long time too...
[11:32] <SpinBoson> contrast83: What do you want it for then?
[11:33] <contrast83> It's still useful though, for things like searching through browser history, meta info (id3 tags, .exif data for pictures, etc.), e-mails, and so forth.
[11:33] <SpinBoson> I suppose so. All of those things have internal searches though, and they don't run all the time.
[11:33] <contrast83> Internal searches?
[11:33] <voicu> !java
[11:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:34] <SpinBoson> my e-mail program has a search, my browser does, my mp3 player does
[11:34] <contrast83> SpinBoson: I don't think you can, for example, search for a certain phrase that was on a web page in your browser history. Or am I missing something?
[11:35] <SpinBoson> Hmmm that is true. This strigi thing kept track of all the text on all the websites I look at?
[11:35] <reinhold> Riddell: I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy and now korganizer is severly broken. In particular, whenever I start korganizer, kontact gets started, too. And second, the IMAP resource no longer works (originally, kmail didn't even recognize the groupware folders any more, but after fixing this, korganizer still does not load anything from kmail).
[11:35] <contrast83> I believe so, yes.
[11:37] <SpinBoson> contrast83: I'm not sure I like that anyway =) But I can see its usefulness. If I was willing to waste the processing power, then yeah
[11:38] <babinder> hello! ho can i install under kubuntu 7.10 nvidia driver? with ubuntu i can install the driver with "one klick"
[11:38] <contrast83> babinder: You can in Kubuntu too. Did you not see a notification when you first logged in about restricted drivers?
[11:39] <babinder> no
[11:39] <babinder> i've installed kubuntu befor one hour and i'm searching for it
[11:39] <contrast83> babinder: I forget the executable's name - I already uninstalled it. Try running restricted-manager-kde?
[11:40] <babinder> there is it
[11:41] <babinder> thx - i try the driver
[11:41] <contrast83> That's weird that it didn't come up when you first logged in. Was there not even a little icon in your system tray that looks like a processor?
[11:41] <contrast83> No problem.
[11:43] <contrast83> Oh... Right.
[11:44] <contrast83> babinder: Any luck?
[11:44] <Xemanth> volume change - and + buttons on my keyboard, how do I know what it tries to change?
[11:44] <Xemanth> where its configured
[11:45] <contrast83> Xemanth: Erm... Not sure what you mean. Are the keys not working?
[11:45] <Xemanth> ye they work, they change something
[11:45] <Xemanth> not volume i think
[11:45] <Xemanth> i can tune between 0% and 11%
[11:46] <contrast83> But not past 11?
[11:46] <Xemanth> nope
[11:46] <contrast83> That's... strange. :-\
[11:46] <Xemanth> hda-intel is my chip
[11:46] <contrast83> They usually in/decrease the volume in 11% increments.
[11:47] <Xemanth> card: HDA ATI SB and chip: Realtek ALC883
[11:47] <contrast83> Did you consult with Google already?
[11:47] <Xemanth> i even installed the latest alsa libs and stuff from source but still no go :(
[11:47] <Xemanth> i don't know right words which to use in google
[11:48] <contrast83> Ohh... That probably wasn't necessary. You may want to go ahead and uninstall that. I hope you didn't already delete the folders you compiled from?
[11:48] <Xemanth> maybe fn+volume down and fn+volume up tries to change wrong volume settings
[11:48] <funcrush> what is 'Queue Track' in desktop-dolphin?
[11:48] <babinder> i think it's working
[11:48] <contrast83> babinder: Did you reboot already?
[11:49] <babinder> and now - how can i active 3d effects ;)
[11:49] <babinder> no only xserver restartet
[11:49] <contrast83> babinder: You need to reboot after installing nVidia's prop. drivers.
[11:49] <babinder> ok - bye
[11:49] <contrast83> Xemanth: Let's try this... Open Konsole and run alsamixer
[11:49] <funcrush> anyone knows 'Medium System Folder' in gutsy?
[11:49] <Xemanth> contrast83: already on
[11:50] <Xemanth> contrast83: when i change volume from keyboard with fn+blablab buttons down and up nothing slides
[11:50] <Xemanth> first selection in alsamixer in headphones
[11:50] <Xemanth> is*
[11:50] <[ifr0g]> !lock
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <[ifr0g]> !apt-get
[11:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:51] <funcrush> what mean 'Flip Vertically' in desktop-dolphin?
[11:51] <contrast83> Ohh ok... Right-click on KMix in the system tray -> Select Master Channel...
[11:51] <contrast83> funcrush: It's only for images, right?
[11:52] <Xemanth> interesting
[11:52] <babinder> re
[11:52] <funcrush> contrast83: I don't know exactly
[11:52] <Xemanth> when i change from kmix mixel volume it changes pc speaker volume
[11:52] <contrast83> funcrush: What's your native language, by the way?
[11:52] <Xemanth> mixer*
[11:52] <funcrush> contrast83: Korean....
[11:53] <contrast83> Xemanth: This is after changing the master channel?
[11:53] <babinder> and now how can i active the 3d effects ?
[11:53] <funcrush> contrast83: My  English is bad :(
[11:53] <babinder> or how can i install compiz fusion
[11:53] <contrast83> funcrush: Were you unable to install Kubuntu in Korean? I'm thinking you should be able to.
[11:54] <contrast83> !compiz | babinder
[11:54] <ubotu> babinder: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:54] <contrast83> babinder: <FusioBot> Compiz Fusion Icon is a tray icon that provides quick access to CCSM, Emerald Theme Manager, and basic functions (eg. switching/reloading WMs or WDs). For debian sid users, it is included in shame's repo. To install from GIT, do the following: git clone git://anongit.opencompositing.org/users/crdlb/fusion-icon && cd fusion-icon && sudo make install
[11:54] <funcrush> contrast83: ah.. I translate a package desktop-dolphin, even I can't insatll gusty cuz I can't upgrade and install
[11:54] <Xemanth> contrast83: hehe, no didn't change master channel... it was pc speaker by default :D now its PCM, but still volume change with FN button doesn't work :(
[11:55] <babinder> ok i try it
[11:55] <funcrush> contrast83: I can't use so I can't get the word exactly
[11:56] <Alarm> compiz fusion is something similar with beryl ?
[11:56] <contrast83> funcrush: Ahh, I see
[11:56] <contrast83> Alarm: Beryl's no longer developed or supported. Compiz-Fusion replaces it.
[11:56] <Alarm> oh i see
[11:57] <Alarm> didnt know that
[11:57] <funcrush> contrast83: I don't know why I can't upgrade to gutsy or install it :(.. sigh
[11:57] <contrast83> Alarm: Compiz-Fusion's the result of the re-merging of the Compiz and Beryl projects.
[11:57] <funcrush> contrast83: anyway, 'flip vertically ' used in image file?
[11:58] <Alarm> compiz doesnt exist either anymore ?
[11:58] <reinhold> Does anyone else experience strange lockups (kmail, konsole, kicker) in gutsy? Every now and then, kmail will simply lock up for about a minute. AFter that it works again.
[11:58] <contrast83> funcrush: Kind of like turning it upside down, but rather than turning, it *flips* it, like looking in a mirror... Sorry that's not a very good explanation.
[11:58] <funcrush> contrast83: these are left, 'Flip Vertically', 'Flip Horizontally', 'Mail as Attachment..', 'Open Medium System Folder', can you help me?
[11:59] <contrast83> Alarm: It does.
[11:59] <malik_> how do i start compiz in kubuntu 7.10 ?becoz its not starting by default
[11:59] <contrast83> But Compiz-Extra doesn't, IIRC.
[11:59] <contrast83> !compiz | malik
[11:59] <ubotu> malik: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:59] <dennisv> why is there no image editor in gutsy (eg krita)? it's not hard to install it, but I just wonder why it's not included by default?
[12:01] <contrast83> dennisv: OpenOffice.org Draw?
[12:01] <funcrush> contrast83: well well u are very busy, I'll try resolve my self :) thx for helping
[12:02] <contrast83> funcrush: np, good luck
[12:02] <funcrush> contrast83: thx
[12:03] <dennisv> contrast83 you're right (although I prefer krita)
[12:03] <Xemanth> welcome back, me
[12:03] <contrast83> Yeah... I think even though Krita might be a bit better, it was a wise decision to only go with apps from one suite.
[12:04] <Xemanth> konversation killed itself
[12:04] <funcrush> anybody knows what mean 'Mail as attachment..'???
[12:04] <contrast83> yikes
[12:04] <Alarm> funcrush,  to send the mail as a file attachment. as a file
[12:05] <funcrush> Alarm: send a mail which include a mail?
[12:05] <Alarm> yeap
[12:06] <funcrush> ah I see thank you:)
[12:06]  * contrast83 respectfully wonders if funcrush might be better off trying to contribute in ways other than translating apps. :-)
[12:07] <contrast83> Xemanth: So now your volume keys aren't doing anything, or it's just still capping at 11%?
[12:08] <Xemanth> same than before
[12:08] <contrast83> You set the master channel to PCM?
[12:09] <Xemanth> contrast83: yeah
[12:10] <contrast83> What happens when you set it to Master?
[12:10] <Xemanth> from where does 'fn+volume up' and 'fn+volume down' read its settings
[12:10] <Xemanth> i can now tune pcm volume from kmix easier
[12:10] <jesus_> hi! does anyone now how to show the UUID of my external drive? its device name is /dev/sda1
[12:11] <contrast83> Xemanth: The master channel should be set to Master. Did you try that already?
[12:11] <Xemanth> yeah
[12:11] <contrast83> Hmm...
[12:14] <contrast83> Xemanth: Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[12:17] <jesus_> please can someone tell me the command to show the UUID of my external drive? /dev/sda1
[12:17] <contrast83> jesus_: Sorry, man. I have no idea.
[12:18] <Alarm> jesus_,  i suppose to have an id , it has to be a user. sda1 is a device
[12:20] <jesus_> yes but i need something called UUID to bind the device into the fstab (i think)
[12:20] <Alarm> thats the users id
[12:20] <Alarm> that will be able to mount it
[12:21] <contrast83> Erm... I recently read something about partitions and such having their own UUID's. I have no idea how one would find it out though.
[12:21] <jesus_> okay... my two other drives have completely different UUIDs...aren they specific for each device? it looks like some kind of hardware adress
[12:21] <contrast83> jesus_: Are you just trying to make it so it automatically mounts on boot?
[12:21] <Alarm> why would this be needed in the fstab ?
[12:21] <bob__> can someone tell me if .gnupg folder in my home folder should have root permissions like mine does?
[12:21] <reinhold> Alarm: the UUID is the unique ID of a harddisk. You can then mount /dev/disks/by-uuid/YOUR-ID and have different mount-points for different external hard disks.
[12:22] <Alarm> didnt know that
[12:22] <funcrush> what is 'Medium System Folder' in gutsy? somebody help me plz ^^
[12:22] <Dragnslcr> jesus_- sudo vol_id /dev/whatever
[12:23] <reinhold> Alarm: Sorry, UUID is the ID of a partition...
[12:23] <Dragnslcr> By the way, I found that in the first result from Google for "find uuid of hard drive"
[12:25] <bob__> should the .gnupg folder in my home folder be locked - anyone please?
[12:29] <jesus_> thank you dragonslicer!
[12:30] <poison--> mornin guys
[12:30] <jesus_> i googled myself and didnt find it! :-) must be the false search item
[12:31] <Xemanth> contrast83: i rechose shortcuts to my fn+volumeup and down buttons, kde recognices my buttons but still no go :(
[12:32] <Xemanth> really, really odd
[12:32] <contrast83> Xemanth: And you *are* able to raise the volume as much as you like in alsamixer, right?
[12:33] <Xemanth> contrast83: yeah, and it even changes hearable volume :)
[12:33] <Xemanth> volume->sound
[12:39] <Xemanth> contrast83: no
[12:40] <Xemanth> contrast83: i read your sentence wrong :D
[12:40] <contrast83> hmm
[12:40] <Xemanth> contrast83: now i can mute volume with FN+Mute, but volume sliding ain't working
[12:40] <contrast83> i'd google around for the model of your sound card and "ubuntu"
[12:41] <contrast83> if that fails, try replacing "ubuntu" with "linux"... and if that fails, file a bug report. sorry, not sure what else to tell ya at this point.
[12:42] <Xemanth> blah :(
[12:42] <Xemanth> stupid keyboard shortcut :(
[12:43] <Xemanth> shortcuts*
[12:44] <|dthacker|> Hi, I'm trying to set up kmail and I'm getting an "unrecognized transport protocol" when I try to send.  How can I debug this?
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> |dthacker|: smtp right?
[12:46] <|dthacker|> yes,it should be.
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> are you sure you have server right?
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> it may need a prefix of smtp.<domain>
[12:47] <|dthacker|> nosrednaekim: It's smtp.central.cox.net
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> hmmm.
[12:47] <funcrush> anyone knows why I don't have permission in upload page of launchpad (https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/dolphin/+pots/desktop-dolphin/ko/+upload)
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> are you trying to send it encrypted or the password in another way other than plain text
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> funcrush: what are you trying to upload?
[12:48] <|dthacker|> In the past, the server has not required authentication...
[12:49] <funcrush> nosrednaekim : po_desktop_dolphin-ko.po   file
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> funcrush: you can't upload stuff to the actual source unless you are a officail developer for that app..
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> (or a MoTu
[12:50] <funcrush> nosrednaekim : yup i see thx for helping:)
[12:51] <|dthacker|> adding login/pw did not help.  Let's try setting this account as default....
[12:53] <bosnianboy> hi all
[12:53] <|dthacker|> nope, that didn't work.  this is puzzling...
[12:53] <bosnianboy> got problem with kubuntu 7.10
[12:53] <bosnianboy> network...
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> bosnianboy: go ahead...
[12:54] <bosnianboy> dhcp... manual... nthn works
[12:54] <bosnianboy> blacklist inet6...
[12:54] <funcrush> anyway, everybody have a good day:) cya
[12:54] <bosnianboy> reboot
[12:54] <bosnianboy>  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> bosnianboy: what chipset is it?
[12:55] <bosnianboy> lspci ?
[12:55] <bosnianboy> via
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> bosnianboy: via's should work...
[12:56] <bosnianboy> should... but I wouldn be here...
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> :D
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> bosnianboy: does ifconfig show it?
[12:57] <bosnianboy> show what ?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> the interface
[13:02] <rohan> i read in a review that i can use a bluetooth mobile to lock kde. how do i do that on kubuntu ?
[13:03] <nosrednaekim> noooo clue
[13:03] <bosnianboy> how do I uninstall avahi ?
[13:07] <nosrednaekim> bosnianboy: I think its part of zeroconf
[13:07] <downix> Ok, Windows just lost the last reason I ran a copy
[13:08] <downix> Kubuntu just sucessfully ran my game
[13:08] <rohan> downix: and that was ?
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> !ahavi
[13:08] <nosrednaekim> !avahi
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ahavi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <downix> rohan: City of Heroes, on Wine
[13:09] <nosrednaekim> :D
[13:10] <downix> ran twice as fast on the same hardware, and looked slicker
[13:10] <downix> (literally twice as fast, went from 16fps to 32fps)
[13:11] <SpinBoson> downix: That's awesome you got it to work
[13:11] <SpinBoson> downix: I've yet to try WoW on it
[13:11] <downix> I tried WoW before, after CoH it felt like a major step backwards.
[13:12] <downix> WoW == EQ with prettier graphics to me
[13:13] <downix> But, to each their own
[13:13] <bosnianboy> apt-get remove avahi-daemon ... network-manager... bla bla bla
[13:13] <downix> there's a reason why EQ is still played after all these years
[13:14] <bosnianboy> remind me never to use kubuntu again...
[13:14] <downix> bosnianboy: hrm?
[13:14] <downix> Why didn't he just use add/remove programs?
[13:17] <SpinBoson> I asked this earlier but I dont know if the person is still here: anyone check out kde4?
[13:18] <Lynoure> SpinBoson: it's there, but not officially supported by Kubuntu yet.
[13:19] <SpinBoson> Lynoure: I know. I'm just wondering if anyone's used it
[13:20] <boubbin> i have keyboard with intehrated media buttons, but kmix has binded the volumebutton to its volumecontrol's, id like it to unbind it so i can bind the buttons to affect amarok instead.
[13:20] <boubbin> integrated*
[13:21] <Lynoure> SpinBoson: I don't because many of my fave things are not ported to QT4 yet, so I cannot bother.
[13:22] <Lynoure> SpinBoson: try on #kde4, I bet one exists
[13:22] <emilsedgh> we should have a #kubuntu-kde4 channel too!
[13:23] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: Ha it was you i was talking to =)  I was going to ask - all you did was build the svn version right? the 4.0 beta?
[13:24] <emilsedgh> svn versions are not beta or alpha o foo...they are like r<revisionNumber> were the revision number is the number of the last commit
[13:24] <poison--> anyone used a barcode printer with gutsy?
[13:24] <emilsedgh> i have r733335
[13:24] <Jucato> emilsedgh: unless he gets from tags/ instead of trunk/... then there are alphas and betas...
[13:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato_: then thats not called 'svn', is that?
[13:25] <Jucato> but then what's the point of building from SVN :)
[13:25] <|dthacker|> argh.  removing the server name didn't help.  what does this smtp server want?
[13:25] <Jucato> emilsedgh: it's still SVN
[13:25] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: I tried building the 4.0 beta at http://download.kde.org/unstable/3.95/src/platform/kdebase-runtime-3.95.0.tar.bz2 etc. But it complains that it needs a bunch of other stuff
[13:25] <yavir> kubuntu gutsy + compiz-fusion = problems with kicker. it crashes sometimes. is it normal?
[13:25] <emilsedgh> Jucato: sure thats 'svn' but thats not 'svn', you know what do ie mean?! :P
[13:25] <Jucato> emilsedgh: svn has three main branches: tags (milestone releases), branches, and trunk (main development)... but I now you know that already :P
[13:26] <nico_> kde suck
[13:26] <nico_> ops
[13:26] <nico_> hello
[13:26] <emilsedgh> hehe
[13:27] <nico_> konqueror doesn't allow me to browse internet, why?
[13:27] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: How do find out what version I'm building?
[13:27] <nico_> it's seem like it is off line
[13:27] <yavir> because kde sucks, you've already said that
[13:28] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: follow this: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[13:28] <nico_> yes but i'm using konversation and it work
[13:28] <victoram> ha
[13:28] <downix> I love KDE
[13:28] <yavir> true
[13:28] <downix> almost as much as E
[13:28] <nico_> E? Enlightment?
[13:28] <infosistem> hi all
[13:28] <yavir> E - Explorer... ^D
[13:28] <yavir> :D
[13:29] <SpinBoson> E is nifty also
[13:29] <SpinBoson> very pretty
[13:29] <downix> Enlightenment
[13:29] <SpinBoson> emilsedgh: that's what I'm following =)
[13:29] <downix> used it since 0.14
[13:29] <victoram> alguem fala portugues?
[13:29] <Jucato> !pt | victoram
[13:29] <ubotu> victoram: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:29] <nico_> (this is a try) ciao
[13:30] <emilsedgh> SpinBoson: so go to your src/kdelibs and type svn info
[13:30] <nico_> prova
[13:30] <nico_> anybody speak italian?
[13:30] <Jucato> ubotu: tell nico_ about it
[13:30] <yavir> anybody speak chinese
[13:31] <nico_> speak or speaCk?
[13:31] <nico_> uhm
[13:31] <yavir> speakuk
[13:31] <SpinBoson> ah
[13:31] <Jucato> !cn
[13:31] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:31] <SpinBoson> 733480, apparently
[13:31] <Jucato> !it | nico_
[13:31] <ubotu> nico_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:31] <jussi01> Hmmm, got a small issue, wondering if someone knows how to fix it. If unplug the power cord on my laptop, the screen dims a bit - this is good, it saves battery etc. However, when i plug back in the screen does not brighten back up - and I cannot find a way to do so. The only thing that works is to resart. anyone got a fix?
[13:32] <Xemanth> yavir: do you mean can anybody write chinese? or understand chinese
[13:32] <yavir> that was just for fun..
[13:34] <yavir> does anybody know whta to do with that damn kicker, i'm tired of CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC to fix that..
[13:34] <tuxwulf> I do
[13:34] <SpinBoson> Mmmm compiling kde4 is sloooooow =)
[13:34] <yavir> no problems with kwin. jusy with compiz
[13:35] <Jucato> SpinBoson: you're compiling something big. of course it's slower than compiling a single app :)
[13:35] <emilsedgh> jussio1: what happens if you press fn+<up>/<down> (or pageup/pagedown instead?
[13:35] <yavir> tuxwulf, what i need to do?
[13:35] <SpinBoson> I know that =) I've done all this before, it's just time-consuming =)
[13:35] <Jucato> SpinBoson: but if you have ever tried to compile something like openoffice or firefox...
[13:35] <SpinBoson> I've compiled kernels etc
[13:36] <Jucato> bah. still not the same :)
[13:36] <tuxwulf> yavir: What is the Chinese question?
[13:36] <Jucato> kernels are smaller (depending on how you've configured it)
[13:36] <MementoMori> when I plug my webcam ubuntu loads a kernel module, I want to develop a my own driver so I dont want it to loads the module. How can I tell it to makes its own business?
[13:37] <emilsedgh> Jucato: you have svn?
[13:37] <Jucato> not right now
[13:37] <yavir> aaa.. it was just a joke, i don't speak chinese well. just a couple of phrase like "nihao", "zhe shi...", "yi, er,san ,si..."
[13:38] <emilsedgh> Jucato: get it and join us in #kde4-krush on saturdays
[13:38] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i was excepting to see you there
[13:38]  * Jucato is too busy doing something else..
[13:38] <Jucato> I would have loved to... but I have some reasons :)
[13:38] <tuxwulf> yavir: ...Cool....that will get you around qute well...
[13:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so i hope that you will get enough time soon
[13:39] <Jucato> probably by december ;)
[13:41] <yavir> tuxwulf:
[13:41] <yavir> are form there or just know chinese lang?
[13:41] <tuxwulf> yavir : just studied Chinese
[13:41] <student> hi all
[13:42] <Prorok> m
[13:42] <Prorok> Any polish here?
[13:43] <yavir> have you ever been there?
[13:43] <Jucato> !pl | Prorok
[13:43] <ubotu> Prorok: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[13:43] <SpinBoson> yavir: I have
[13:43] <Prorok> In poland?
[13:43] <Prorok> PD
[13:43] <Prorok> :D*
[13:43] <SpinBoson> Oooo done building kdelibs! on to the next....
[13:43] <malik_> i have installed compiz and its emerald theme manager without any error msgz and downloaded some themes into but i still can figure out how to enable or start using those themes plus cube effect is not happening............................can any one help?
[13:44] <yavir> where actually?
[13:44] <Prorok> Kraków, Crocow
[13:44] <tuxwulf> yavir > .. me...?
[13:44] <SpinBoson> yavir: Sichuan, Beijing and Shanghai
[13:44] <Prorok> hah:D
[13:44] <downix> The only thing I miss with Konq is flash
[13:45] <Lynoure> my konq has flash, I'm pretty sure.. (not home, so cannot check)
[13:45] <Jucato> downix: hmm?
[13:45] <|dthacker|> Is there a way to get the actual dialogue between kmail and the mail server?  Can I enable a log somewhere?
 you need to set @horizontal virtual size in general options to at least 4 to get the cube
[13:45] <Prorok> damm kubuntu, I don't get it ;p
[13:45] <downix> Lynoure:  not seeing any of my usual flash sites working, such as Pandora
[13:45] <Prorok> i like windows xp :D
[13:46] <Jucato> downix: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree already?
[13:46] <downix> Jucato: not yet
[13:46] <downix> Prorok:  nobody's forcing you to run Kubuntu if you don't want to
[13:46] <yavir> malik_: general ->Desktop Size
[13:46] <Jucato> downix: then that's the reason why you don't have Flash working
[13:47] <garry> malik: I haven't tried to do the 3d desktop, but in MandrivaOne the command to swing it was either Ctrl+Alt+left/right or Alt+left/right.. Something like that.. Assuming you've got it installed.. 8^)
[13:47] <Prorok> I know that ^^ but i am on lesson now, (inforatics) and I must run Kubuntu ^^
[13:47] <Lynoure> Prorok: you can use whatever you wish, just don't come here trolling about it
[13:47] <student> jestes
[13:47] <student> PROROK
[13:47] <Prorok> nom]
[13:47] <student> jazda z kurwami
[13:48] <yavir> SpinBoson: lucky:) I 've been only to Dalian
[13:48] <Prorok> kto następny?
[13:48] <yavir> nikto
[13:48] <nico__> why i can access internet only with konversation?
[13:49] <yavir> its a doom
[13:49] <nico__> konqueror and akregator doesn work
[13:49] <Jucato> Prorok: English only in here please
[13:49] <|dthacker|> nico_: what happens if you try to go to google with konqueror?
[13:49] <Prorok> Gee, i get baned in 3 sec
[13:49] <Prorok> :D
[13:49] <malik_> yavir: how do i do that?....i didnt really get what u mean......im just a newbie
[13:49] <Prorok> Kiss my ASS.
[13:50] <downix> jucato:  trying now to figure out how to install it
[13:50] <Jucato> Prorok: stop that
[13:50] <nico__> |dthacker|: Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[13:50] <Prorok> Or what...?
[13:50] <Jucato> downix: just "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[13:50] <Jucato> downix: or use Adept Manager
[13:50] <MementoMori> nico__: apri una konsole e  prova un ping
[13:50] <yavir> hmm.. press K menu, then Settings->Advanced Destop Effect.... there you need to choose Genral section in the top of the page
[13:50] <Prorok> Bla bla bla.. You will never catch me...
[13:50] <Prorok> hhahahahaha
[13:51] <Jucato> Prorok: please behave or leave. this channel is for Kubuntu user support (in English)
[13:51] <Prorok> fuck you. bb
[13:51] <tuxwulf> Which bringd up a question I have been meaning to ask...
[13:51] <nico__> MementoMori: ping work well in console
[13:51] <Jucato> ok
[13:51] <tuxwulf> Is it possible to ignore ppl here ...?
[13:52] <Jucato> tuxwulf: no need to. he's gone
[13:52] <Jucato> tuxwulf: you can also right-click on a nick and select Ignore
[13:52] <downix> got an error, which told me the solution, there we go
[13:52] <nico__> MementoMori: non posso chattare in prv perche non sono registrato a quanto pare
[13:52] <tuxwulf> Jucato > Check ...! Thanks!
[13:53] <MementoMori> nico__: join here #xxxxxxxxx
[13:54] <yavir> malik: set these params as i wrote, then turn on "Destop Cube" and "Rotate Cube". after that you need only to press Ctrl+Alt+ plus mouse button 1 and try to rotate you cube
[13:55] <yavir> bye everyone
[13:58] <xtatic> hi
[13:58] <hansen> any fortran users here? (no jokes please :)
[13:59]  * Jucato thinks they'd be in #fortran if it exists :)
[13:59] <SpinBoson> hansen: yup
[13:59] <hansen> my problem is specific to the gutsy gfortran packages
[14:00] <hansen> Install "g77" and you get gcc-3.4+g77-3.4, install "gfortran" and you get gcc-4.2+gfortran-4.2. The default gcc is 4.1.3, ie. none of the ones you get with the fortran packages
[14:00] <xtatic> does anybody here knows how to hack? For Example.. To Join from Your Pc To Another Pc Without The Other Person Knowing...
[14:00] <downix> xtatic:  to hack is to modify programming.  You're talking about cracking, not hacking.
[14:00] <hansen> so to get a fortran compiler that matches the 4.1.3 gcc that is the default compiler, I have to install gfortran-4.1 (which provides a g77 binary and not a gfortran binary to make the joke complete)
[14:01] <hansen> any idea why it's so messy?
[14:01] <Jucato> xtatic: 1. That's cracking as downix said, and 2. we don't condone illegal activities here
[14:01] <downix> xtatic:  if you're going to go to random channels at least get the terminology right.
[14:01] <SpinBoson> hansen: No idea why it's so messy, but does it really matter? I use f95 which works... do you need a specific compiler for a specific purpose?
[14:01] <xtatic> i was just kidding..
[14:02] <downix> ok, installed the flashplayer and konq still doesn't show flash
[14:02] <_Shade_> how do i determine iwhether my cpu's 64 bit or not?
[14:02] <bazhang> what'd I miss?
[14:02] <Jucato> downix: in Konqueror, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins button
[14:02] <MementoMori> !paste
[14:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:02] <downix> _shade_: which CPU do you have?
[14:02] <hansen> SpinBoson: problem is linking. I have a mixed C/C++/FORTRAN project. the fortran stuff is build into a static lib and in the end it's linked together with everything else. g++ is used for linking
[14:02] <malik__> hello ppl again, cant seem to get emarald theme manager in kubuntu to use any of the themes its showing that it has, how do i go around that?
[14:03] <xtatic> look its my first time here Plus its my first time using linux... so shine some light to me ... what does linux Kubuntu do?
[14:03] <SpinBoson> hansen: sec brb
[14:03] <hansen> SpinBoson: and the version of the g++ used for linking determines the version of libgfortran that it links to, and here it breaks if the version dont match
[14:03] <Jucato> !kubuntu > xtatic
[14:03] <bazhang> xtatic: what do you want it to do? pretty everything windows and mac do, only better and faster :}
[14:03] <Jucato> xtatic: read the message the bot sent you
[14:03] <downix> jucato:  Man I've lived in CLI for too long....
[14:03] <SpinBoson> hansen: Force it to use a specific version
[14:03] <Jucato> downix: come into the light!!! :D
[14:03] <downix> xtatic:  Anything you want it to if you give it enough time.
[14:04] <_Shade_> downix: an intel cpu here
[14:04] <bazhang> haha Quo Vadis Jucato? :}
[14:04] <hansen> SpinBoson: how do I do that? the libgfortran.so symlink is inside the version-specific subdir of /use/lib/gcc/
[14:04] <endo602> question: i get "can't get /etc/mtab~ lock filesmbmount failed: 1" when mounting from fstab
[14:04] <Jucato> bazhang: :P
[14:04] <downix> _Shade_: then likely 32-bit unless you have a Xeon.  The Core/Pentium 64-bit modes are not worth the effort in my experience.
[14:04] <xtatic> tnx guys
[14:04] <_Shade_> downix: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140  @ 1.60GHz
[14:05] <endo602> someone know that issue
[14:05] <downix> _Shade_: you *have* a 64-bit mode with it, but performance is hardly optimal.  I have the same CPU, and performance in 64-bit mode was worse than 32-bit mode.
[14:05] <hansen> ok, with default gcc/g++ (4.1.3) and gfortran-4.1 and all the other g77/gfortran packages removed it works!
[14:06] <SpinBoson> hansen: Do you know which version you need?
[14:06] <SpinBoson> hansen: Okay then =)
[14:06] <_Shade_> downix: so i should use 32 bit binaries rather?
[14:06] <hansen> I think the code is not picky, it will work with either f77 or f95
[14:06] <SpinBoson> hansen: f95 will compile f77 code
[14:07] <hansen> for gcc-4.1.3 the matching fortran compiler is f77
[14:07] <downix> _Shade_:  I'd recommend it, yes.
[14:08] <SpinBoson> hansen: I just checked the other way around: my f77 is linked to 3.4.6, f95 is linked to 4.2.1
[14:08] <SpinBoson> hansen: but gcc tells me it's version 4.1.3 hahaha this makes no sense
[14:09] <hansen> SpinBoson:  yes, that's the setup I had initially. the code got compiled with f95 (gcc-4.2, libgfortran-2), but linking was done with default gcc (gcc-4.1, libgfortran-1) => disaster
[14:09] <Alarm> Jucato,  hello, yesterday i was asking about theme installation, and you mentioned about one file that i had to edit by my self
[14:09] <hansen> SpinBoson: but thanks for agreeing with me that it makes no sense :)
[14:10] <Alarm> could you please remind me ?
[14:10] <Jucato> Alarm: what kind of theme was it?
[14:10] <Alarm> kdm
[14:10]  * Jucato can't remember either :P
[14:10] <_Shade_> and how can i check if the installed system is 32 or 64 bit?
[14:10] <Alarm> had to do with debian, that it wasnt changing cause of on file (guess i am in the wrong channel :P)
[14:10] <endo602> anyone know anything about my problem?
[14:10] <spawn57> hi, do any of you know how to get compiz-kde in kubuntu working?
[14:11] <Jucato> Alarm: aaah.hm... you actually don't need to. afaik the kdmtheme manager was patched to make it work on Kubuntu... but in case it still doesn't, you need to go to /etc/default/kdm.d/ and copy the file there, rename it to have a higher number, and edit that instead
[14:11] <Alarm> what do u mean to rename it to the higher nunmber ? and which was the filename :)
[14:13] <Jucato> Alarm: it's 20-something-something by default, copy that file and give it a higher number in the filename, like 30-something-something
[14:13] <Jucato> Alarm: have you tested the kdmtheme app already?
[14:13] <Alarm> ok, i will do that
[14:14] <Alarm> test it how ? well it runs, it adds the themes, but thats all
[14:14] <Jucato> it doesn't apply the new theme?
[14:14] <Jucato> I mean it doesn't let you change themes?
[14:14] <Alarm> no
[14:15] <Alarm> i can change themes, choose which one i want. but they dont take effect
[14:15] <Jucato> how are you testing it?
[14:15] <Alarm> when i run again the theme manager , the checkbox "activate" is disabled
[14:15] <Alarm> well rebooting computer or restarting x
[14:15] <Jucato> hm.. strange..
[14:15] <nico__> how can i disable view of backup file (for example for mytextfile~) on my desktop?
[14:15] <Jucato> ok then, time to change it manually :)
[14:16] <nico__> i just want to see mytextfile, not also mytextfile~
[14:16] <Alarm> one more tip. you said "copy the file there," didnt mention which file
 Alarm: it's 20-something-something by default, copy that file and give it a higher number in the filename, like 30-something-something
[14:17] <Jucato> I did. and there should only be one file there by default
[14:17] <Alarm> in the /kdm.d there is no file at all
[14:17] <Jucato> O.o
[14:18] <Jucato>  /etc/default/kdm.d/ ?
[14:18] <Alarm> nop. its an empty dir
[14:18] <Jucato> O.o
[14:18] <Jucato_> there should be a 20_kubuntu_default_settings file int there
[14:19] <Alarm> there isnt , i will google it
[14:19] <Alarm> in case i will find out i'll let you know :)
[14:19] <Jucato> Alarm: by any chance, are you on a default Kubuntu install? do you have kubuntu-default-settings installed?
[14:20] <Alarm> not at all
[14:20] <Alarm> i'm on debian
[14:20] <Jucato> that would explain it :P
[14:20] <Alarm> :)
[14:20]  * Jucato wants to thwack Alarm on the head
[14:20] <Alarm> hehe, do so :)
[14:21] <Jucato> Alarm: iirc, I also told you to ask in #debian :P
[14:21] <Alarm> i'll do that also
[14:21] <Alarm> iceweasel is allready on the search as well
[14:23] <xtatic> guys..
[14:23] <xtatic> sry from interrupting u.. bt.. what exactly do u do with kubuntu ..?:/
[14:24] <tuxwulf> play with linux and kde
[14:24] <bazhang> xtatic: as many said before, what do you want to do with it? surf the web, watch vids, etc? same as Windows or Mac, just better :}
[14:24] <downix> xtatic:  On this machine I play my MMO and do work.  On my other one, I run a webserver and database server.  On the third one, my son studies for his homework.
[14:26] <RurouniJones> Good evening all, new laptop finally arrived (Hurrah), installed Gutsy on it (Hurrah and shazam). All is working well apart from one thing:
[14:26] <downix> RurouniJones: if you say wireless I'll laugh
[14:26] <RurouniJones> At random times Kubutu decides that it is no longer plugged into the mains
[14:27] <RurouniJones> and switches to battery mode
[14:27] <RurouniJones> A minute or so later it realises it was plugged in all along and engages main mode again
[14:27] <RurouniJones> Now before I start thinking hardware issues, has anyone had this on a Centrino laptop?
[14:27] <hero> shazam, eh?
[14:27] <bazhang> RurouniJones: thinkpad?
[14:28] <RurouniJones> No, MSI
[14:28] <downix> RurouniJones: I had the same problem on my wifes old Inspiron laptop, but that was while running Windows.
[14:28] <RurouniJones> Although I just found a post on the ubuntu forums that seems to be the same (Reads)
[14:28] <alessio> hi u all!!!
[14:28] <alessio> anyone could help me?
[14:28] <bazhang> RurouniJones: let the battery run down after a full charge--then plug it in and recharge it
[14:28] <RurouniJones> Eugh, looks like it isn't just me, other MSI users are having the same problem
[14:29] <bazhang> !ask | alessio
[14:29] <ubotu> alessio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:29] <alessio> I've problem booting windows vista with grub :(
[14:29] <alessio> ok ty :D
[14:29] <alessio> i had vista installed
[14:29] <alessio> than decided to install ubuntu 7.1
[14:30] <RurouniJones> bazhang: Is this a "I think this may work" or a confirmed solution?
[14:30] <alessio> in grub menu there's vista option but when i choose it to boot
[14:30] <alessio> it just restart my computer
[14:30] <bazhang> RurouniJones: this is accepted practice with a new device
[14:30] <alessio> i can't undestand what's the problem
[14:31] <bazhang> alessio: dual boot vista and Kubuntu?
[14:31] <alessio> yes
[14:31] <alessio> not kubuntu just ubuntu
[14:31] <RurouniJones> Ok, I'll give it a go, althouhg judging by the numer of other users having this issue I don't think it will be the final solution ;)
[14:31] <alessio> but i think its the same
[14:31] <bazhang> alessio: probably want to join #ubuntu
[14:32] <alessio> ok i thought could be the same but i'll join #ubuntu thank you anyway bye ;)
[14:32] <bazhang> bye
[14:33] <bazhang> RurouniJones: this will extend your battery life--as far as the problem you have now, first do this, then see if it re-appears
[14:35] <tzanger> good morning
[14:35] <bazhang> hi!
[14:35] <tzanger> I see cups has been updated, but I still cannot print ot a remote cups server from my local one... but if I tell kde that the only cups server is the remote one, it works great
[14:35] <tzanger> does *anyone* have cups-->cups-->printer printing working??
[14:35] <RurouniJones> ok cheers bazhang
[14:35] <bazhang> RurouniJones: no problem :}
[14:37] <RurouniJones> luckily with this laptop draining the battery should take, oooof 20 minutes?
[14:37] <bazhang> RurouniJones: :}
[14:39] <timri> tzanger: Had similar pbs this morning, had to restart the server
[14:40] <tzanger> timri: I've had this problem for 2 months now
[14:40] <tzanger> it's like the 'ipp' helper program is screwed
[14:40] <timri> tzanger: Ouch! dont know about that, unfortunately
[14:41] <timri> tzanger: Do you have some meaningful error mesages in /var/log/cups/* ?
[14:43] <jjones> Woohoo, ok, internet works on new machine, how can you force adept installer to refresh the sources, since I am now online I want to see the online repositories
[14:44] <bazhang> jjones: why force them?
[14:45] <timri> jjones: Menu Adept -> manage repositories
[14:47] <jjones> the repositories are showing up in the edit source menu
[14:47] <jjones> but whe I go to the main pakacg selection it can onlt see the 1000 or so that are on the CD
[14:48] <bazhang> jjones: you need to disable the cd and enable the other repos
[14:50] <timri> jjones: And then choose "fetch updates"
[14:50] <jjones> via adept, or is there an easier way to do it (Like uncommenting a config file)
[14:51] <timri> jjones: Uncomment repos in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[14:52] <jjones> Just has a look, already uncommented
[14:52] <jjones> the universe repos anyway
[14:52] <timri> jjones: then issue sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:53] <timri> jjones: make sure adept is closed, though
[14:53] <rgreening> /joinh #ubuntu-doc
[14:53] <timri> rgreening: typo :)
[14:53] <rgreening> lol
[14:53] <jjones> yep, that did it, thanks timri
[14:53] <rgreening> yup. I can't spel
[14:58] <endo602> question: I can mount sambashare in cmd prompt but i cant get it to mount in fstab, please help
[15:00] <tatters> fresh install of ubuntu IPW2200 wireless works perfect with  wpa2 AES and 255 (64 hex) passphrase,,,,install Kubuntu desktop Wireless and IPW2200 Broke  :(
[15:01] <tatters> Is kubuntu poor mans ubuntu?
[15:02] <timri> endo602: For a quick gui solution: aptitude install smb4k
[15:02] <downix> tatters: no
[15:02] <bazhang> tatters: reverse that, then yes
[15:02] <timri> tatters: Catch much?
[15:03] <tatters> Y does kubuntu break ubuntu wireless
[15:03] <tatters> I love kubuntu desktop but it seems so unstable compared to gnome desktop
[15:03] <timri> tatters: "Kubuntu desktop Wireless" - what package is that ?
[15:03] <endo602> timri i get it working in the command prompt
[15:04] <timri> endo602: Ok
[15:04] <tatters> I just installed kubuntu package nothing else
[15:04] <timri> tatters: You mean kubuntu-desktop ?
[15:04] <jjones> yeehar, thanks timri, that definitely did the job
[15:04] <tatters> yes kubuntu-desktop
[15:04] <timri> jjones: :)
[15:04] <endo602> timri I need it for fstab
[15:05]  * timri is ssh-ing into a box that has it in its fstab... stand by
[15:06] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-desktop
[15:06] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.59 (gutsy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[15:06] <timri> tatters: Perhaps you just have to re-enter your wireless credentials in the kde network thingy?
[15:06] <tatters> It also breaks my rt200, rt73usb and rt2500pcmcia
[15:07] <timri> tatters: rt2500 works fine here
[15:07] <tatters> timri  the kde network thingy option to enter passphrase are greyed out
[15:07] <timri> tatters: whoa! that is indeed bugreport-worthy
[15:07] <giuseppinux> buenas a alguien que hables español
[15:07] <tatters> timri u using wpa AES?
[15:08] <timri> tatters: Yes
[15:08] <timri> endo602: Example: //sjoebox/archive        /shares/sjoebox/archive        smbfs guest,uid=smbguest,gid=smbguest,rw,fmask=0770,codepage=cp850,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[15:08] <timri> !es
[15:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:08] <endo602> iocharset/?
[15:09] <tatters> timri are u using rt2x00 drivers?
[15:09] <giuseppinux> gracias,saludos
[15:09] <endo602> timri that is what i do
[15:09] <timri> tatters: Yes, the serialmonkey ones, iirc.
[15:09] <endo602> i get an mtab lock error
[15:10] <tatters> timri with network manager?
[15:10] <tatters> timri or rtutilt
[15:10] <timri> tatters: Yes (Gutsy, didnt work under Feisty)
[15:11] <timri> endo602: I sortof remember a hal problem in kde (could not obtain lock on mtab, or words to that effect)
[15:11] <tzanger> oh hey
[15:11] <tatters> timri with network manager or the rtuiLT
[15:11] <tzanger> I got remote cups printing working
[15:11] <tzanger> you can't define a printer on a remote server
[15:11] <tzanger> you have to let it find it
[15:11] <tzanger> then it works just fine
[15:11] <endo602> what should i do?
[15:12] <timri> endo602: You could try using the nomtab param (it wont get recorded in mtab that way),
[15:12] <timri> tatters: With network manager
[15:13] <tatters> hmm,
[15:13] <timri> tzanger: So you got it sorted out? cool
[15:14] <timri> tatters: did you remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[15:15] <tatters> With gnome desktop all my wireless works fine , if I then install kde-desktop it breaks , did you go this route or just install kubuntu?
[15:15] <tzanger> timri: yeah, it's a little counterintuitive... it clearly lets you set up a printer on a remote cups server, but it just won't let you print to it.  howver if you configure the server ot find remote cups servers and show their printers, then print that way, it works fine
[15:15] <timri> tzanger: Ah, ok
[15:15] <tatters> no I kept gnome-desktop, is there any reason why i should remove it/
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> tatters: when you no longer want it
[15:16] <timri> tatters: No, just guessing some weird package conflict. By the way you do mean ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, do you?
[15:17] <timri> tatters: I did a fresh install, kubuntu x86
[15:17] <tatters> yah, I installed ubuntu cd then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> pure kde  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde   how to get rid of gnome or xfce to have just kde
[15:17] <timri> tatters: Looks like you did the right thing. strange
[15:17] <cschnee> hello, how can I avoid that new users need to change their pw ? Where can I set/modify this policy ?
[15:19] <timri> tatters: do you have network-manager-kde installed?
[15:19] <timri> tatters: because I just noticed a small depends pb that could result in your difficulties
[15:20] <tatters> timri yes I thing it the network-manager-kde causing the problem
[15:21] <timri> tatters: Tell me what you see when you right-click the kde networkmanager applet
[15:23] <aUserOfIRC> Help: how to netboot a system with simple kernel such as ETH,VFS...
[15:24] <tatters> timri in gnome desktop the option for wireless has completly disappeared and in kubuntu desktop the option change encryption allows me to put in my passphrase but will not allow me to save changes
[15:25] <tatters> timri this is my ipw2200 card btw
[15:26] <WaltzingAlong> remove references to ethx devices in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:26] <tatters> eth0 and eth1 ?  eth1 being my wireless
[15:27] <timri> tatters: fwiw, my /etc/network/interfaces contains only the following:
[15:27] <timri> auto loiface lo inet loopback
[15:28] <timri> WaltzingAlong: I do not really see how that could have introduced his problem, though
[15:28] <tatters> well I will give it a shot ,, I woulda thought it needed to show in there to work?
[15:29] <Vermux> I tried to create alias mkdir='mkdir -v' in .bashrc file but it doesnt work. help!
[15:29] <WaltzingAlong> neither do i but in my experience networkmanager needs there to be no manual settings in order to work; feel free to make a backup first
[15:30] <timri> WaltzingAlong: Yeah, but why is the same networkmanager working in his ubuntu session?
[15:30] <SpinBoson> Vermux: Dumb question: are you using bash?
[15:30] <tatters> When I use the network manager to connect to an AP where does it write the settings ?
[15:30] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: how about mkd or something else. otherwise you may get an infinite loop; 'mkdir -v' expands how when mkdir=mkdir -v ?
[15:30] <SpinBoson> WaltzingAlong: I don't think there's a problem with that
[15:31] <Vermux> SpinBoson: yes
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: ok after you set the alias you could close konsole, open a new one
[15:31] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: it suppose to tell me when I creates a directory, no?
[15:31] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: right!
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: my question is how does it know that mkdir is the command or the alias
[15:32] <SpinBoson> Vermux: Yes it is. When you type 'alias' is it in the output?
[15:32] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: but there is command that causes it to work right away but I forgot it. something with "source"
[15:32] <SpinBoson> Vermux: source .bashrc
[15:32] <SpinBoson> Vermux: or rather: source ~/.bashrc
[15:33]  * timri has to go, bye everyone!
[15:33] <jjones> What is the package name for the build essentials?
[15:33] <Vermux> SpinBoson: thanks
[15:33] <SpinBoson> Sure
[15:33] <SpinBoson> jjones: build-essential
[15:33] <eagles0513875> what are the known bugs with cups
[15:34] <jjones> Thanks, I was using the plural
[15:34] <SpinBoson> jjones: apt-get supports tab-completion
[15:34] <SpinBoson> jjones: So you could have done apt-get install build-<tab>
[15:34] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: why infinite loop\?
[15:35] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: what is mkd?
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: three letters you use as the name of the alias
[15:35] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: ok, but what did u mean about the loop?
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: alright so how does it not work? what do you see instead?
[15:37] <jjones> ah, thanks SpinBoson
[15:37] <yuan> hi
[15:37] <jjones> Welp, this laptop seems to think it is plugged into the mains, despite the fact it hasn't been plugged into since it started
[15:38] <jjones> kubuntu power management + MSI = bad juju
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> jjones: had an issue like that with my emachines, needed a new motherboard
[15:38] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: it didnt work because I forgot to type source .bashrc or log out. I guess source .bshrc tells the system to use the new updates in .bashrc file?
[15:38] <SpinBoson> Vermux: source just runs the script
[15:38] <SpinBoson> Vermux: within the current shell
[15:38] <jjones> WaltzingAlong: This is happening with a bunch of MSI machines
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: understood. it should work like want it to work
[15:39] <jjones> Others are reporting it on the forum
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> jjones: openbios to the rescue?
[15:39] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: it's working now
[15:39] <downix> I am learning OpenBIOS
[15:39] <jjones> I have no idea what that is
[15:39] <downix> jjones:  an opensourced version of Open Firmware
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> jjones: the issue is probably a bug in the bios either acpi or apm
[15:39] <kEEGAn> hi my display has crashed how do i change my display setting from the command promt
[15:40] <spawn57> hey, has anyone run compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10?
[15:40] <Vermux> SpinBoson: the .bashrc script runs when the system logging in?
[15:40] <eagles0513875> how can i change the amount of video memory in virtualbox
[15:40] <jjones> WaltzingAlong: Worth disabling acpi and rebooting, then try again but disabling apm insteadl, see if it works with one disabled?
[15:40] <SpinBoson> Vermux: then you would not have to source it
[15:41] <WaltzingAlong> spawn57: yes
[15:41] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | spawn57, check here for instructions on how
[15:41] <spawn57> WaltzingAlong:  thanks man
[15:41] <Vermux> SpinBoson: does the kernel runs .bashrc automatically when rebooting?
[15:42] <SpinBoson> Vermux: .bashrc is run every time you open a new terminal
[15:42] <jjones> What is the command to see the current runlevel?
[15:42] <SpinBoson> Vermux: even if already open terminals exist
[15:43] <Vermux> SpinBoson: its purpose is for alias?
[15:44] <eagles0513875> !virtualbox
[15:44] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[15:44] <eagles0513875> is there a virtualbox irc channel
[15:45] <jjones> WaltzingAlong: If I look at the system services and see both acpid and apmd enabled and startup but not running currently, woul that be a bad thing?
[15:45] <SpinBoson> Vermux: you can put ALL kinds of stuff in there
[15:46] <Vermux> SpinBoson: ok
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: #vbox ?
[15:46] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ty
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> jjones: not necessarily
[15:46] <jjones> Ok, computer just shifted back to "Oh, I am not plugged in" mode
[15:46] <jjones> and back again
[15:47] <hyppolytus> okay, so my friend has kubuntu and can't remember his password, is there any kind of password reset for it? I know how to do it on a macintosh, but with linux, I have no idea.
[15:50] <hydrogen> you need to login on a livecd
[15:50] <hydrogen> !password
[15:50] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[15:50] <hydrogen> or into recovery mode apparently!
[15:57] <vsudilov> is KasBar incompatible with Compiz?
[16:00] <Chrom_> hi all
[16:01] <Chrom_> I Was wondering if there's a particular procedure for installing compiz-fusion in kubuntu 7.10
[16:01] <Chrom_> just apt-get install compiz?
[16:02] <TimS> Could someone talk me through setting up a new partition along side my current one with qtparted on the live cd?
[16:03] <TimS> The options resize and move are greyed out, what does this mean?
[16:04] <hydrogen> !compiz | Chrom_
[16:04] <ubotu> Chrom_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:05] <contrast83> Anyone know what package one would install if they want *only* the GNOME desktop environment with as few of its actual applications as possible?
[16:05] <Chrom_> ubotu: thanks, I was looking exactely for that info.
[16:05] <Chrom_> oops I'm talking to the bot :)
[16:05] <bazhang> haha
[16:05] <tekteen> lol
[16:06] <tekteen> anyone know of any packages I can take off the kubuntu alt. install cd (like language files)?
[16:06] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: cannot move or resize them
[16:06] <TimS> Nope
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> if they are greyed out it means you cannot move or resize them
[16:07] <TimS> Damn, so I have to reformat it.
[16:07] <TimS> So I need to get as much possible off
[16:07] <bazhang> Chrom_: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> have you tried the gparted live iso?
[16:07] <TimS> No, but Ill do it this way, it will be fine
[16:10]  * contrast83 hugs apt-file
[16:11] <contrast83> The answer was gnome-session, in case anyone was curious. :-P
[16:11] <poison--> !samba
[16:11] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[16:11] <TimS> Where is the sources.list stored again?
[16:12] <contrast83>   /etc/apt
[16:12] <Centz> hello
[16:13] <Centz> can any1 help me plz?
[16:13] <Centz> i have some question need to ask
[16:13] <tekteen> ask away
[16:13] <TimS> !ask | Centz
[16:13] <ubotu> Centz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:13] <SpinBoson> TimS: /etc/apt
[16:13] <TimS> Ty
[16:13] <Centz> :D thanks you guys are very friendly
[16:13] <Centz> i'm a newbie
[16:13] <Centz> i'm trying to install kunbuntu now
[16:13] <tekteen> ok
[16:13] <MilesG> are there any professional programmers in here?
[16:14] <Centz> i'm using amd/msi k9n sli
[16:14] <Centz> i just dl the image n burned
[16:14] <tekteen> 32 or 64 biy
[16:14] <Centz> so i boot it
[16:14] <SpinBoson> MilesG: I do program on a regular basis
[16:14] <Centz> 64 bit
[16:14] <tekteen> ok
[16:14] <[ifr0g]> I am a professional HTML programmer :)
[16:14] <Centz> how am i able to install it?
[16:14] <TimS> MilesG: Depends what you mean, try #kubuntu-devel or -dev I cant remeber which
[16:14] <princecouengolez> hello!
[16:14] <Centz> i press the 1st choice...(use or install
[16:14] <MilesG> well i just have a career question, i guess ill go ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <Centz> do i need to use cd to boot everytime when i wan to use it?
[16:15] <Centz> i wish to install it to my hdd
[16:15] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: locate sources.list
[16:15] <Centz> wat shud i do?
[16:15] <tekteen> Centz: ok
[16:15] <tekteen> boot into it
[16:15] <tekteen> then on the desktop there should be an icon that syas "install"
[16:15] <Smackware> hi. Is there any channel here ment for musicians on linux?
[16:15] <pan|c> hello. can you vote for my blog? anyone?
[16:15] <tekteen> says*
[16:16] <Centz> tekteen: only the INSTALL rite? not the install/use rite?
[16:16] <pan|c> my blog is nominated for blogger of the week.. anyone intesrted to vote please PM me.
[16:16] <tekteen> ?
[16:16] <Centz> tekteen: it did ask me for a driver...
[16:16] <bazhang> pan|c: care to join #kubuntu-offtopic?
[16:16] <tekteen> boot into install or use.
[16:16] <poison--> does anybody have a workin smb.conf there that can share?
[16:17] <tekteen> then click install on the desktop
[16:17] <Centz> tekteen: oh...then i successful going in...
[16:17] <pan|c> my blog is nominated for blogger of the week.. anyone intesrted to vote please PM me.
[16:17] <Centz> tekten: so it does mean i need to install in the deskstop rite?
[16:17] <llutz> pan|c: stop spamming pls
[16:17] <tekteen> yep
[16:17] <Centz> tekteen: thanks...what else i need to prepare?
[16:17] <Centz> tekteen: such as the driver
[16:18] <tekteen> r u doing dual boot
[16:18] <tekteen> (windows and linux)
[16:18] <Centz> tekteen: yeap i will but at 1st i dunno how to use grub so i directly use another hdd for testing
[16:18] <tekteen> on same cpu?
[16:19] <MaDiNfO_> ih
[16:19] <Centz> tekteen: yes...but i disable the (window) HDD...
[16:19] <Centz> tekteen: so i use another hdd just for kubuntu
[16:19] <MaDiNfO_> i have 2 sound boards where can i choose from each i want to use ?
[16:19] <tekteen> that means dual boot because it is on the same computer
[16:19] <Centz> tekteen: yes...
[16:20] <tekteen> you need to know how to assign partitions.
[16:20] <TimS> Is there anyway to create a list of every package installed on a hard drive? Or is there a pre-existing list somewhere?
[16:20] <Centz> tekteen: ok let me explain
[16:21] <tekteen> do you have another computer so I can walk u through it as u do it
[16:21] <Centz> tekteen: 1 hdd (windows) <--- i remove the power plug 2 hdd (kubuntu) <---have 3 partition
[16:21] <Centz> tekteen: i'm a poor guy
[16:21] <tekteen> ok
[16:21] <Centz> tekteen: 2nd hdd (1st partition) 10gb fat32
[16:21] <tekteen> how do u get internet?
[16:22] <Centz> lol now i cannot install...i gather all the info 1st
[16:22] <tekteen> dialup. or better
[16:22] <Centz> :D
[16:22] <Centz> dsl
[16:22] <tekteen> good
[16:22] <tekteen> boot the disk and then use the client built in to connect
[16:22] <Centz> tekteen: can i pm u privately?
[16:22] <tekteen> ok
[16:24] <tekteen> centz: I am trying to pm u
[16:24] <Centz> tekteen: i though we r in the pm?
[16:25] <MaDiNfO_> i have 2 sound boards where can i choose from each i want to use ?
[16:25] <lovre> hi all
[16:25] <tekteen> centz: do u know how to pm?
[16:26] <bazhang> hi!
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen: =.=
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen: dunno
[16:26] <bazhang> clcik on the users name
[16:26] <bazhang> err click
[16:26] <tekteen> what client r u using
[16:26] <lovre> does anyone know of any extension or something that can help me download flash animations that appear on a web page, i use firefox
[16:26] <lovre> ?
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen: lol i did it man...
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen: i can seen ur replies...
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen: but how come u cannot c my replies?
[16:26] <Centz> tekteen:  :(
[16:27] <tekteen> ?
[16:27] <Jyzygzel-> what do you need to be able to print with ubuntu?
[16:27] <Jyzygzel-> print with a printer
[16:27] <Centz> tekteen: do u have msn?
[16:27] <tekteen> no
[16:28] <Centz> tekteen: nvm...i think my irc have some problem
[16:28] <tekteen> aol, yahoo, gmail
[16:28] <Centz> tekteen: ermz...
[16:28] <tekteen> I am not an MS fan
[16:28] <bazhang> tekteen Centz join #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:28] <tekteen> lol
[16:28] <tekteen> ok
[16:28] <chef_> hi
[16:28] <bazhang> hi
[16:31] <slot_> Hello. I have used Debian for yers now but I wanted to try something different, but still in the Debian style. I liked KDE, so I picked Kubuntu. Im currently trying to install my NVIDIA drivers, but the installer program is complaining about som glibc headers. How do I find these headers? I cant look them up via aptitude or adept. I cant even look glibc up.
[16:31] <slot_> years*
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> slot_ what 'installer program' ?
[16:32] <slot_> The official.ø
[16:32] <llutz> slot_: use ubuntu-packages nvidia-glx....
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> There is ubuntu packages for the nvidia drivers thats the 'reccomended' way to isntall them.
[16:32] <slot_> Oooh :O
[16:32] <TimS> Dr_Willis: In kubuntu live cd I am accessing my hard drives and some folders have locks on and wont let me enter, why is this and is there a way arround it?
[16:33] <_Angelus_> i don't know if this is a "legal or illegal" issue but i find more as a bug. i have many playstation games which im trying to make a backup **not to copy** but **to use on a playstation emulator**. and K3B reports sector errors on all playstation games and its always in the same sector. any help? some other program that can do better? some guiede? thanks
[16:33] <TimS> I am trying to get my konversation logs
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> TimS these are Linux or windows drives?
[16:33] <brentp> hi, i've upgraded from 7.06 where i had smp working to 7.10 where i now see this: http://rafb.net/p/YBVdp454.html  where should i start looking to get it to recognize multiple cpus?
[16:33] <TimS> Linux
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> TimS you may need to be root to access them.  Since the 'owner/user' on the live cd is different from your isntalled linux owner/user
[16:33] <TimS> So it cant be done?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> slot_ i tend to install the 'resticted-manager' tool and run it. and let it install them
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> TimS this is linux.. of COURSE IT CAN be done. :)
[16:34] <TimS> How then? :P
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> TimS you are stumbling on a security  feature
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> sudo cp /whatever/ whever
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> is one way
[16:34] <TimS> Ah
[16:35] <TimS> What does cp dp?
[16:35] <TimS> cp*
[16:35] <slot_> Dr_Willis: Do you know what version this driver is? Because i tried one of these "smart ways" in Debian Etch, and the by that road, far, far down it, I found a one year old driver :)
[16:35] <TimS> do*
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> Now is the time to read a few bash tutorials. :) shell guides
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> cp = copy
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> mv = move
[16:36] <TimS> Ah
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> slot_ nvidia just released a new driver like this week. so its NOt the latest.. but its just a month or so old.
[16:36] <slot_> God good.
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> slot_ they work for my 6800 and 8800gts
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> or was it ati that released one this week? i cant keep up
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> Gutsy Just came out  Oct 18th.
[16:37] <slot_> How do you tricker the "resticted" program updater device? :D
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> I run it with 'sudo restricted-manager'
[16:37] <slot_> It is self trickered on the first startup but I said no back then.
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> I may do things the hard way.
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> :)
[16:37] <slot_> Kool, thanks
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> proberly an icon somewhere also
[16:38] <slot_> Couldnt find it.
[16:39] <TimS> Yay I have my IRC logs :D
[16:39] <slot_> 100.14-19. Pretty new driver. Thanks Dr_Willis.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> !info restricted-manager
[16:39] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> slot_ you may want to isntall 'synaptic' if you perfer that package manager tool also.
[16:40] <unperson> Hi, I've been trying to upgrade kubuntu from feisty to gusty, but the upgrade tool had some errors and then ground to a halt midway through.  I'm trying to figure out what to do now.
[16:40] <unperson> For the moment, my system is functional, but I'm not certain it will continue to be after a reboot.
[16:40] <brentp> anyone have any ideas? i've installed linux-image-generic, but my uname shows its not and SMP kernel.
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> brentp you did select the proper kernel at reboot?
[16:40] <unperson> Is there a way for me to resume (or even re-start) the version upgrade?
[16:41] <slot_> I have always used commandline aptitude. But I like Adept.
[16:41] <TimS> Dr_Willis: On the livecd whats the best way to safely remove a usb memory stick
[16:41] <brentp> oh. no. i'll try that. thanks Dr_Willis
[16:41] <slot_> I have never read about the synaptic though.
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> !synaptic
[16:43] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[16:44] <TimS> I cant remeber the cli for safely removing something
[16:44] <slot_> brb
[16:44] <TimS> Oh its gone :D
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> TimS umount  it
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> note NO    N in umount
[16:45] <TimS> Oh, diddnt know that :P
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Heh - now we are back to the 'linux basics/shell/fundamentals' :)
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> It pays to learn the FUNdaMENTALs
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> :)
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> and yes. it took me some time and a lot of twiddling to learn them
[16:46] <TimS> Yeah :P
[16:47] <TimS> I have never needed to mount an unmout before
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> You UNmount stuff you Mount. :)
[16:49] <unperson> I've tried to restart adept, in hopes of running version upgrade again, but it says another process is using the apt system so it can't do anything.  After the upgrade tool stalled I closed it and did a kill -TERM on all the processes that appeared to have something to do with adept, so I don't know what process that might be.
[16:49] <unperson> Is it possible there's a leftover lock file somewhere that just has to be removed?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. Im on vista for 10 min this morning . and its allready crashing..  :)  time to reboot to linux
[16:49] <TimS> except its umount :P
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> !fixadept
[16:50] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:50] <kelvie__> is there a way to have kde auto-mount usb drives (with pmount or similar) like the gnome lv manager does?
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> kelvie__ i though it allready did that.
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> They pop up when ever i pop mine in. :)
[16:52] <Captain_Redbeard> Why isn't KDE4 Beta4 yet not in the backports when all of the previous betas which has been far less usable has been released and announced on the webpage?
[16:53] <WaltzingAlong> Captain_Redbeard: ye
[16:53] <WaltzingAlong> Captain_Redbeard: perhaps you could speed up the process by contributing to the building of packages?
[16:54] <kelvie__> oh.. you need any special permissions to mount usb drivers?
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> !info pmount
[16:54] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.16-4 (gutsy), package size 84 kB, installed size 656 kB
[16:54] <kelvie__> yes I know about pmount :P
[16:55] <kelvie__> does kde use pmount internally?
[16:55] <kelvie__> if that's the case she has to be in the plugdev group
[16:55] <kelvie__> I believe...
[16:55] <Captain_Redbeard> WaltzingAlong, I most certainly could :) I'm actually building them for x64 at home as we speak... My question was mainly if there was plans on adding them any time soon or if I should submit them myself
[16:55] <Novell> I'm trying to set up 3 different profiles in knetworkmanager, but it really doesn't seem to work. Whatever I do, I can't get it to set a static IP for two of the profiles, it just gets some old random IP I've used in the past, when selecting the profile with dhcp, it works as it should, starting dhcp client etc.. I'm using gutsy
[16:55] <WaltzingAlong> Captain_Redbeard: then you could ask in #kubuntu-devel
[16:56] <Captain_Redbeard> WaltzingAlong, thanks for pointing me in the right direction mate.
[16:56] <TimS> 2 cd drives has its benifits in live cds :D
[16:56] <WaltzingAlong> Novell: as in something contained in a lease already obtained? /var/lib/dhcp3/ *.leases ?
[16:56] <Novell> WaltzingAlong: for the dhcp profile or the other ones ?
[16:56] <TimS> I think im done with backups now
[16:56] <TimS> Time to reinstall kubuntu
[16:57] <atlfalcons866> how much ram is needed for kubuntu
[16:57] <TimS> Would someone like to tell me how to install it with a different home partition? Also, should I unmount my HD from the livecd before installing onto it?
[16:58] <Novell> WaltzingAlong: the static ones get a static ip I used on the switch/router network the other day..
[16:58] <jussio1> !home | TimS
[16:58] <ubotu> TimS: Your home folder is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For mounting your home folder on a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[16:59] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: well it would work with small amount, i think the recommendations are 256 plus or minus
[16:59] <atlfalcons866> 128?
[17:00] <bazhang> doubtful
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: sure
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> not the best user experience perhaps
[17:01] <bazhang> 192 iirc
[17:03] <jhutchins_lt> You'll get lots of swapping to disk.
[17:03] <jhutchins_lt> You'll also want to turn off any visual effects in KDE.
[17:04] <unperson> Ok, I still can get the version upgrade tool to work.  It still says that it thinks some other instance of apt is running.
[17:04] <unperson> 'fuser -v /var/lib/dkpg/lock' shows nothing
[17:04] <SpinBoson> Can anyone help me with 'startkde' dying?
[17:04] <jhutchins_lt> unperson: Running it with kdesu?
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: so kill any apt-get aptitude adept
[17:05] <TimS> Dr_willis: I cant umount my hda and I cant install kubuntu while its mounted
[17:05] <Dr_willis> TimS,  close all programs accessing it.
[17:05] <TimS> umount /dev/hda1 gives me device is busy
[17:05] <x_link> Hi
[17:05] <unperson> jhutchins_lt: Yes
[17:05] <TimS> They are cloesd
[17:05] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Already done.
[17:05] <TimS> Can I get a list of programs using it?
[17:05] <x_link> avant-window-manager isn't in Gutsy right?
[17:05] <stepz_> what happened to the vmware player package?
[17:06] <gnurph69> I'm trying to install an FTP server on kubuntu - but using add/remove programs, I don't see one.  where might I look?
[17:06] <Dr_willis> TimS,   You just backed stuff up off of hda1 and now want to do a clean install?
[17:06] <TimS> Yeah
[17:06] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[17:06] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:06] <TimS> Oh LOL
[17:06] <Dr_willis> TimS,  so you  basicially want to reformat hda1 now?
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: so how about removing the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ?
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> !info filezilla
[17:06] <TimS> Dr_willis: I was in the hda on the cli
[17:06] <ubotu> filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 827 kB, installed size 2176 kB
[17:06] <TimS> Yeah I do
[17:06] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Yeah, I did that too.
[17:06] <gnurph69> Dr_willis:  an FTP server - not a client
[17:06] <Dr_willis> TimS,   then you can just reboot.
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: probably lots of python scripts running then
[17:07] <Dr_willis> gnurph69,  ------------->       - See also !FTPd
[17:07] <Dr_willis> !ftpd
[17:07] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[17:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:07] <TimS> I got it now
[17:07] <TimS> I hate dolphin so much
[17:08] <jhutchins_lt> gnurph69: Running an FTP server on your system is a guaranteed way to get hacked.
[17:08] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: When I try to run adept it gives me the error about something else running.  And afterward the dpkg lock file has reappeared.
[17:08] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: yes i read that. there are python scripts running as the upgrade tools
[17:08] <Dr_willis> I was waiting for everyone to chime in 'dont use ftp, use ssh' :)
[17:08] <WaltzingAlong> sftp to the rescue!
[17:08] <TimS> dont use ftp use ssh
[17:08] <gnurph69> jhutchins_lt:  just need it temporarily and I have firestarter in place allowing access only from my specific client's IP
[17:08] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Ordinarily, I'd probably just reboot or something, but this is (if you missed this part) in the middle of a botched version upgrade, so I don't think the system would be in a usable state.
[17:08] <gnurph69> lol @ ssh comment.
[17:08] <vbgunz> does the Tangerine Icon theme break hard on Kubuntu for anybody?
[17:08] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Yes, this may be.
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: so from the !terminal or !konsole  what do you see with   sudo aptitude -f install
[17:09] <TimS> vbgunz: Yeah It did for me
[17:09] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: I'll see if I can find anything.
[17:09] <TimS> Not hard, but yeah :P
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: ksysguard
[17:09] <vbgunz> TimS: thats a great theme... bad breakage :(
[17:09] <TimS> yeah
[17:09] <TimS> Whats the advantage of a seperate home directory
[17:09] <jhutchins_lt> !find vsftpd
[17:09] <ubotu> Found: vsftpd
[17:10] <jhutchins_lt> !info vsftpd
[17:10] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[17:10] <jhutchins_lt> TimS: Theoretically you can reinstall more easily without overwriting it.
[17:10] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: grepping the output of 'ps aux' for 'python' gives only one result.  It's something about hpssd, which I assume is an unrelated service.
[17:10] <jhutchins_lt> TimS: Of course, if you have backups like you should that's not an issue.
[17:10] <vbgunz> TimS: you mean putting /home on it's own partition?
[17:10] <TimS> yes
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> its
[17:11] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: I can try your aptitude command and see what the output is.
[17:11] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: alright
[17:11] <TimS> I guess I dont really need it, I could figure out how to reinstall without overwriting it anyway :P
[17:11] <TimS> Just move it afterwards
[17:11] <jhutchins_lt> Partitioning just guarantees that when you need space, it will be available on the wrong partition.
[17:11] <vbgunz> I personally enjoy doing that so if ever I need to say reinstall, I'll link to my home directory but won't format it. then a reinstallation will go in perfectly without overwriting my home directory
[17:12] <TimS> I have a lot of work to do, I need to get nvidia drivers, compiz fusion and all that malarkey working
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: most of the work has been done already
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: you merely click a few buttons
[17:12] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43560/
[17:12] <Dr_willis> Yep. that stuff takes me all of like 3 min on a new install..
[17:12] <Dr_willis> Not that i reccomdne compiz
[17:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:13] <Dr_willis> In fact - i susggest avoiding it.
[17:13] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[17:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:13] <hdominik> Hello good people of the world!
[17:13] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: The short version is that it says I should run dpkg --configure -a
[17:13] <WaltzingAlong> ok and running that gets you?
[17:14] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Ok, well now it's configuring all the packages that the (incomplete) upgrade process installed.  This may take a while.
[17:15] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: right. so after this completes, sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade  should finish the process
[17:15] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: I think it was done with the download phase and was into the conf phase, so I considered just doing this.  I wasn't sure, though, if there was necessary cleanup or other stuff that wouldn't get done if the version upgrade tool didn't complete successfully.
[17:15] <TimS> Bye Bye 20 gigs of movies and TV
[17:17] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Ok, I'm giving that a try.  I'll let you know how it comes out.  Thanks for your help so far.
[17:18] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: I'm fairly comfortable with normal apt-get stuff, but I was just uncertain as to what all the version upgrade tool was doing.
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: understandable
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: you could use apt-get in place of aptitude where i had it
[17:19] <SpinBoson> I get an problem on KDE startup, it seems there's a fatal IO error.... anyone deal with this before?
[17:20] <ScorpKing> SpinBoson: what is the full error?
[17:20] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Right.
[17:20] <SpinBoson> ScorpKing: Well I scrolled up to where I think the first error message is: kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
[17:21] <WaltzingAlong> haah
[17:21] <SpinBoson> ScorpKing: I guess it should be noted that this is in a Xephyr window
[17:21] <ScorpKing> SpinBoson: you using kde4?
[17:22] <ScorpKing> i have not seen that before. ;)
[17:22] <sysop> jhutchins_lt:  okay, why doesn't add\remove programs show vsftpd as an option to install?
[17:22] <SpinBoson> Trying to compile it, yes. But this isn't just a kde4 error, I think.
[17:22] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: I don't understand why Ubuntu's version upgrade process seems to be more convoluted than debian (where it really is just changing your sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade AFAIK).
[17:23] <ScorpKing> SpinBoson: no idea
[17:24] <sam__> My usplash is too high resolution and my screen cannot display it (signal input out of range) How do i fix this so it works fine on my 1440X900 monitor?
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: which you could do and which the kubuntu upgrade tool does. makes a backup of the sources, comments out 3rd party ones, goes from there. but i suppose has more checks for different packages or conflicts; i have gone from edgy to feisty by merely changing the lines in sources.list but for gutsy i ran the tool
[17:24] <jhutchins_lt> unperson: Because it's not just a matter of installing new versions of the software you already have.  Some of the packages change, like the init/start-up system.
[17:24] <SpinBoson> ScorpKing: This is interesting.  I used the normal startkde instead of the kde4 one. It runs, and I get a mix of the two =)
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> unperson: ^^ jhutchins_lt and i think this was the issue with previous jumps
[17:24] <ScorpKing> lol
[17:25] <WaltzingAlong> SpinBoson: so you are asking here for support on a beta build of kde4?
[17:25] <jhutchins_lt> The script helps clean up config files and such too.
[17:25] <SpinBoson> WaltzingAlong: Nope. Just clarification of what the error means (which is not a kde4 thing)
[17:25] <unperson> WaltzingAlong, jhutchins_lt: I see.
[17:25] <WaltzingAlong> SpinBoson: so a better place may be to ask in #kde as the issue does not appear to be kubuntu specific
[17:25] <SpinBoson> WaltzingAlong: Good point.
[17:26] <pergunta> i have problem: i can't install any software
[17:26] <pergunta> all grey
[17:26] <pergunta> and i cant tick v
[17:26] <ScorpKing> sam__: google for grub vga modes and set it there. also look in /etc/usplash.conf
[17:26] <ardchoille> pergunta: are you running the installer with sudo?
[17:26] <sam__> ScorpKing thanks
[17:26] <pergunta> adept
[17:26] <pergunta> installer
[17:26] <gnurph69> bah!  I installed ftpd but can't figure out how to configure it - no man pages and if I ftp to localhost I get "connection refused"
[17:27] <ardchoille> pergunta: are you running it as root?
[17:27] <pergunta> no
[17:27] <pergunta> i just log in
[17:27] <pergunta> with pass
[17:27] <pergunta> and give the pass to the installer
[17:27] <pergunta> and i cant tick any v
[17:27] <pergunta> only remove
[17:28] <ardchoille> pergunta: So you can remove software but you can't install anything?
[17:28] <pergunta> yes
[17:29] <ardchoille> pergunta: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[17:29] <sam__> ScorpKing: LOL my issue was so simple sorry for wasting your time i've edited my /etc/usplash.conf now and all should be well.
[17:29] <ardchoille> !paste | pergunta
[17:29] <ubotu> pergunta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:29] <ScorpKing> sam__: or maybe not. :P
[17:30] <WaltzingAlong> gnurph69: something in /etc/... ftpd or whatever?
[17:30] <The_Machine> anyone else have a broken miro?
[17:30] <pergunta> what do u mean?
[17:31] <administrador> como faço pra instalar um servidor de email?
[17:33] <ardchoille> administrador: Italiano o portuguese?
[17:33] <WaltzingAlong> !portuguese
[17:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:33] <TimS> Dr_willis: I cant connect to the network, I have put the settings in, but no pages load, what is a default gateway
[17:37] <sam__> brb checking if my usplash works now
[17:39] <TimS> Why does the KDE network not wor? I cant select Hexidecimal, only ASCII
[17:41] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: what are you using?
[17:42] <TimS> Anything I can, KNetworkManager doesnt find any wireless devices, and manualy, I cannot select hexidecimal
[17:43] <tekteen> anyone know what packages are not needed on the alternative install cd?
[17:43] <dencrypt> God... I LOVE kubuntu :)
[17:43] <dencrypt> (first time user)
[17:44] <tekteen> dencrypt: dido
[17:44] <tekteen> lol
[17:44] <WaltzingAlong> dencrypt: tekteen: welcome
[17:44] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: sudo iwlist eth1 scanning shows?
[17:44] <tekteen> I am a long time user
[17:44] <tekteen> I just agree with the first part
[17:45] <dencrypt> I've been sitting configurating kde for 10 hours and finally I find it home-like :D
[17:45] <tekteen> (as long time as a 14 year old can)
[17:45] <tekteen> lol
[17:45] <TimS> Sorry WaltzingAlong
[17:45] <TimS> What?
[17:45] <_Angelus_> is it posible to start an X server from a chrooted enviroment
[17:45] <_Angelus_> ?
[17:45] <TimS> startx
[17:45] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: what else have you been using to scan? has it ever been connected? encrypted?
[17:46] <TimS> Nope
[17:46] <_Angelus_> no
[17:46] <TimS> It was a fresh install yesterday
[17:48] <sam__> I've edited my /etc/usplash.conf but my monitor still says signal input out of range what else can i do?
[17:49] <sam__> What's going on?
[17:49] <sam__> WTF?
[17:51] <_Angelus_> what i mean is, im already in KDM , logged into my user, but i want to open a new Xserver from a  chrooted enviroment from console
[17:51] <Dr_willis> Im not sure that you can open a new Xserver from a choorted env.
[17:51] <Dr_willis> i wonder how it would handle the various kernel modules...
[17:51] <jussi01> hmm, anyone know the key combination for forward in firefox?
[17:51] <tekteen> is there anyway to make kdm look like it did in 7.04
[17:51] <SpinBoson> I dont think you're supposed to be using chroot in that sense anyway
[17:52] <_Angelus_> i want to run a 32bit GUI prog
[17:53] <WaltzingAlong> jussi01: alt+right arrow?
[17:54] <jussi01> WaltzingAlong: :) thanks
[17:54] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: when you get into the chroot, use the -d switch i think to preserve environment details (like where the display is) then you can just launch the app from the chroot into the current display
[17:54] <TimS> I cant set wireless networking up, I dont know what it means by gateway
[17:54] <Dr_willis> PC --> gateway machine --> internet
[17:54] <_Angelus_> ahh
[17:54] <blackwaltz> tekteen: might noot be particularly easy, but of course there is a way
[17:54] <_Angelus_> ok
[17:55] <_Angelus_> thanks alot WaltzingAlong
[17:55] <Dr_willis> gateway ip is often the ip of the wireless router
[17:55] <tekteen> blackwaltz: do u know the way?
[17:55] <TimS> Dr_willis: okay thanks
[17:55] <blackwaltz> tekteen: probably comes down to finding the package that holds the theme, and changing it, I could take a look around for you if you want
[17:55] <tekteen> no thanx
[17:56] <blackwaltz> no? okay then
[17:56] <WaltzingAlong> !info schroot
[17:56] <ubotu> schroot: Execute commands in a chroot environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.5-1.1 (gutsy), package size 521 kB, installed size 1552 kB
[17:56] <tekteen> I need to know more what packages I can remove from the alternative cd
[17:56] <tekteen> I am building a install disk and need to make room
[17:56] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong: unknown :s
[17:57] <TimS> Dr_willis: I have all my settings in, I know the usb device works on kubuntu, but it doesnt do anything, I can even get to my routers page
[17:57] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: it may be -p or so. check the man page
[17:57] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong:  man page only tells --help and --version
[17:57] <Dr_willis> TimS,  if you cant ping the IP of the router.. well thats a sign that the network device is not set up properly.
[17:57] <TimS> Dr_willis: whats broadcast?
[17:57] <blackwaltz> tekteen: first place I would start would be the language packs/font files
[17:57] <Dr_willis> I forget what broadcast is. :) its always autofills in on my systems.
[17:57] <tekteen> where are they
[17:58] <Dr_willis> ip.of.the.network.255 i think
[17:58] <ScorpKing> TimS: check the default gateway
[17:58] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong:  the one you said is schroot!!!!!
[17:58] <_Angelus_> :p
[17:58] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: schroot -p
[17:58] <_Angelus_> yeah
[17:58] <blackwaltz> tekteen: search for packages with i18n in them and/or packages that start with ttf-, that will be some of the
[17:58] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: sure, i prefer schroot over dchroot anyway
[17:58] <blackwaltz> *them
[17:58] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong: i was using chroot not dchroot :p
[17:59] <blackwaltz> tekteen: for fonts I usually just keep ttf-dejavu and ditch the rest
[17:59] <WaltzingAlong> or chroot i meant, alirght
[17:59] <tekteen> blackwaltz: what is !18n
[18:00] <WaltzingAlong> !18n
[18:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 18n - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:00] <emilsedgh> tekteen: i18n = InternationalizatioN
[18:00] <tekteen> ok
[18:00] <emilsedgh> tekteen: there are 18 characters between I and N
[18:00] <_Angelus_> !i18n
[18:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i18n - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:00] <tekteen> how do I strip everything except english
[18:00] <TimS> !wireless
[18:00] <blackwaltz> tekteen: it's an abreviation of internationalization
[18:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:01] <tekteen> ok
[18:01] <tekteen> thanks
[18:01] <WaltzingAlong> tekteen: a better place to ask may be #kubuntu-devel
[18:01] <tekteen> no one is home
[18:01] <tekteen> lol
[18:01] <blackwaltz> tekteen: well, you have to do it for a lot of packages, for example things like firefox and openoffice have large internatlionalization files
[18:02] <tekteen> thanks
[18:03] <blackwaltz> tekteen, also search for files with "locale" in the name, those are generally translation files as well.
[18:03] <tekteen> cool
[18:03] <tekteen> firefox only comes with english :-(
[18:03] <tekteen> nothing to remove
[18:04] <tekteen> what is en-gb and en-za
[18:04] <tekteen> can I remove those
[18:04] <tekteen> ?
[18:05] <WaltzingAlong> trial and error
[18:05] <dennisv> english great britain and english south africa
[18:05] <tekteen> ok
[18:06] <GuyFromHell> How can i get those darned konqueror gestures to work?
[18:06] <tekteen> I tried to remove linux-sources.
[18:06] <tekteen> lol
[18:06] <tekteen> disk lost all needed drivers
[18:06] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: used it in feisty? not working in your upgrade to gutsy?
[18:06] <blackwaltz> GuyFromHell: I gave up and used Opera
[18:06] <GuyFromHell> WaltzingAlong: new gutsy install
[18:07] <GuyFromHell> blackwaltz: eh, i wanted to try a new browser for the hell of it, my main is already firefox but i think i'm going to go "a week of konqueror" for myself
[18:07] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: then you should define some
[18:08] <GuyFromHell> WaltzingAlong: i'm in the settings thing and everything looks enabled already though and i unchecked the "disable globally" box
[18:09] <Hydrogen> use opera
[18:09] <Hydrogen> its much best!
[18:10] <GuyFromHell> hehe convincing argument :P
[18:10] <blackwaltz> GuyFromHell: I'm with hydrogen on that one
[18:12] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: which mouse button did you want to use?
[18:12] <GuyFromHell> WaltzingAlong: 3
[18:12] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: did you set that?
[18:12] <GuyFromHell> WaltzingAlong: right below the "disable mouse gestures globally" checkbox
[18:12] <GuyFromHell> Do i have to like, restart khotkeys or something?
[18:13] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: not sure what to tell you. i just enabled them here, forward and back, both working in konqueror. had to set which mouse button
[18:13] <GuyFromHell> WaltzingAlong: lemme try a diff button then
[18:13]  * GuyFromHell ponders which one to use
[18:14] <WaltzingAlong> GuyFromHell: i set which button because #9 was selected but this mouse does not have that many
[18:14] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong: (<unknown>:7193): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[18:15] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: firefox?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> !32bit
[18:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> !info nswrapper
[18:16] <ubotu> Package nswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[18:16] <atlfalcons866> !32
[18:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:17] <atlfalcons866> !64bit
[18:17] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[18:17] <tekteen> !info ndswrapper
[18:17] <ubotu> Package ndswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[18:17] <Rukus-> for someone who hates messing around with lots of terminal commands, scripts and adept manager are the shizzle, but i know it doesnt compare to doing it yourself, but as long as stuff works, i donmt care
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper
[18:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:18] <_Angelus_> WaltzingAlong: no , pcsx
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> !nspluginwrapper
[18:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:18] <tekteen> !info nspluginwrapper
[18:18] <ubotu> Package nspluginwrapper does not exist in gutsy
[18:19] <_Angelus_> O_O
[18:19] <_Angelus_> it does exist
[18:19] <_Angelus_> i have it
[18:19] <_Angelus_> sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper
[18:20]  * GuyFromHell sighs, "Okay i'll do a week of Opera then..."
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> indeed... it IS in the repositories
[18:24] <WaltzingAlong> !info nspluginwrapper
[18:24] <ubotu> Package nspluginwrapper does not exist in gutsy
[18:24] <Dr_willis> ya MAY want to learn to use the !find command
[18:24] <Dr_willis> !find wrapper
[18:24] <ubotu> Found: kio-umountwrapper, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common (and 10 others)
[18:25] <WaltzingAlong> !find foun
[18:25] <ubotu> Found: command-not-found, command-not-found-data, libfoundation-data, libfoundation-tools, libfoundation1.0 (and 1 others)
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> nothing....
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[18:25] <WaltzingAlong> !flash
[18:25] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:27] <sharkp> hi guys
[18:27] <sharkp> how can I change the kicker text colour?
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> hey sharkp
[18:29] <sharkp> hey nosrednaekim
[18:29] <boubbin> how to check if nvidia drivers are properly installed?
[18:30] <sharkp> how can I change the kicker text colour?
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> sharkp: you mean the taskbar colors?
[18:30] <dencrypt> It's in /etc/environment you change locales, right?
[18:30] <sharkp> yeah
[18:31] <sharkp> nosrednaekim, so?
[18:32] <poison--> !wine
[18:32] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:32] <poison--> !AppDB
[18:32] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:32] <affan> Hi all, i am having trouble with the Adept Manager.... every time it crashes when i try to install something it says there was an error commiting changes... possibly there was an error downloading packages or the commit would break packages
[18:32] <tekteen> what fonts can I get rid of from the alt install cd?
[18:34] <tekteen> are there any that are not english?
[18:35] <nosrednaekim> sharkp: right click on panel-> configure panel-> taskbar->text color
[18:35] <dencrypt> affan: paste your sources.list somewhere (preferably pastebin)
[18:35] <WaltzingAlong> _Angelus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[18:37] <schiste> Ok got a pretty anoying problem
[18:37] <schiste> just upgraded to gutsy
[18:37] <schiste> and amarok is no longer working
[18:37] <schiste> as well as kmix
[18:37] <dencrypt> have you tried to turn it off and on?
[18:37] <dencrypt> :D
[18:38] <webserver-2> !lamp
[18:38] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[18:38] <affan> dencrypt: i solved it... i wasnt agreeing to the JDK terms and conditions.... the check box was hidden way down the page.... thanks for ur help
[18:39] <schiste> dencrypt: rofl yeah of course :)
[18:39] <slow-motion> hi
[18:40] <dencrypt> schiste: the usual apt-get remove --purge and reinstall also=
[18:40] <dencrypt> ?
[18:40] <schiste> not yet
[18:40] <schiste> I was wondering if it could be because of my sound drivers
[18:40] <dencrypt> I say go for it, and call me in the morning-
[18:40] <Rukus-> iujj
[18:40] <dencrypt> why do you think that?
[18:40] <schiste> :D
[18:41] <schiste> Because kmix isn't working either
[18:41] <dencrypt> schiste: well try removing them both, with purge and reinstall them.
[18:41] <affan> Hi, to play videos in Firefox, do i need XINE plugin or MPLAYER plugin?
[18:41] <dencrypt> and do a apt-get update while your at it
[18:42] <fwinterel> hi... i got a problam installing beryl... i have some graphics card that i can't find it's drivers... ati redeaon
[18:43] <fwinterel> some1 knows where i can find it?
[18:43] <fwinterel> and how to config beryl or what package to d/l?
[18:43] <ScorpKing> !ati
[18:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:43] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[18:43] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | fwinterel
[18:44] <fwinterel> it's an old ati driver i suppose .. could i even bother?
[18:45] <WaltzingAlong> up to you
[18:45] <tzanger> quick question, where is the default language for kubuntu/debian stored?  I know I can just change LANG but when it boots, where does it figure out what the default language is
[18:45] <fwinterel> damn.. i hope it won't mass up my computer
[18:46] <schiste> did
[18:46] <schiste> don't work
[18:46] <affan> !sine
[18:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:46] <affan> !xine
[18:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:46] <tekteen> !info xine
[18:46] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in gutsy
[18:47] <tekteen> !info xine_ui
[18:47] <ubotu> Package xine_ui does not exist in gutsy
[18:50] <WaltzingAlong> !find xine
[18:50] <ubotu> Found: amarok-xine, kaffeine-xine, libxcb-xinerama0, libxcb-xinerama0-dbg, libxcb-xinerama0-dev (and 29 others)
[18:51] <tzanger> if one wants to remove all remnants of anything that depnds on X, how would I tell apt-get ot do so?
[18:51] <tinin> I can not upgrade to gutsy with Adept Manager. What is the command to do so in a terminal?
[18:52] <anabelle> Hi, im really annoyed with the "password too simple" warning, i wrote this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603994 and the answer i got was really lame, how can i make my suggestin a reality?
[18:52] <Rukus-> make a stronger password and suck it up
[18:52] <Rukus-> :P
[18:52] <Rukus-> sorry
[18:52] <WaltzingAlong> tinin: change the 'feisty' to 'gutsy' in the sources.list but not the recommended way
[18:53] <gnurph69> okay, i'm trying to copy a file - i am ssh'ed into the kubuntu box from a (looks around) windoze box using putty.  CD'ed to correct directory.  what next?
[18:53] <tinin> WaltzingAlong and then do i do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[18:53] <WaltzingAlong> tinin: then update and dist-upgrade, yeah
[18:54] <tinin> and why is it not recomended?
[18:54] <tekteen> it brakes the machine
[18:54] <tekteen> I tried it.
[18:54] <tinin> does Adept do something more than those commands?
[18:54] <tekteen> :-)
[18:54] <anabelle> Hi, im really annoyed with the "password too simple" warning, i wrote this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603994 and the answer i got was really lame, how can i make my suggestin a reality?
[18:54] <WaltzingAlong> adept no but there is a special upgrade tool that does;
[18:55] <WaltzingAlong> anabelle: thanks but no need to repeat so often
[18:55] <WaltzingAlong> anabelle: maybe you want to check with #ubuntu
[18:55] <tinin> I can not upgrade to gutsy with Adept Manager because it complains about the ubuntustudio mirrors beeing down
[18:55] <WaltzingAlong> tinin: also you should enable the feisty-proposed (pre-release) too, make sure you have all the feisty latest, then go to gutsy from there
[18:55] <PoloGoomba> Hello
[18:55] <Rukus-> i seriously despise ndiswrapper. i cannot get it to work. i have it installed along with windows drivers, was working whe ni instaleld it, but upon reboot it stopped working
[18:55] <Rukus-> any help?
[18:55] <tinin> I guess I'll remove the ubuntustudio line
[18:56] <tinin> WaltzingAlong I've done so
[18:56] <tinin> I'll try again
[18:56] <PoloGoomba> I would like how to put the Wireless connection
[18:56] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: ndiswrapper -m is it?
[18:56] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi
[18:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:56] <tinin> Whis me luck, I need to do a presentation for tomorrow
[18:56] <Rukus-> "module configuration already contains alias directive"
[18:57] <Rukus-> thats the feedback i get whe ni use that command
[18:57] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: "ndiswrapper -l"
[18:57] <PoloGoomba> I have put the log-ins but ... it's can't work (I have Gusty 7.10 in my Laptop)
[18:57] <WaltzingAlong> gnurph69: maybe you want sftp through konqueror or scp
[18:57] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: and depmod -ae
[18:57] <Rukus-> driver installed
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> gnurph69: you want to use sftp, not ssh to transfer files
[18:58] <Rukus-> device present
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: try "iwconfig"
[18:58] <tzanger> quick question, where is the default language for kubuntu/debian stored?  I know I can just change LANG but when it boots, where does it figure out what the default language is
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> do you see a wireless device?
[18:58] <PoloGoomba> Yes my wireless card is reconized ;)
[18:59] <lg188> WaltzingAlong hello :) long time ago
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: is it a WEP protetected AP?
[18:59] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: greetings
[18:59] <PoloGoomba> Not protected !
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: then why do you need a password?
[18:59] <Rukus-> demod -ae hangs
[18:59] <Rukus-> ooooh
[18:59] <PoloGoomba> i don't need a password
[18:59] <Rukus-> n.m
[18:59] <PoloGoomba> I put the SSID
[19:00] <PoloGoomba> But it still can't work
[19:00] <PoloGoomba> The Ip is obtained
[19:00] <PoloGoomba> and it's all :(
[19:00] <PoloGoomba> I go to a website and it's say a error
[19:00] <Rukus-> ok nonme of that got it working
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> didn't it see your AP with knetworkmanager?
[19:00] <Rukus-> none
[19:00] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: what does "iwconfig" show.
[19:01] <PoloGoomba> No
[19:01] <PoloGoomba> The Ip is obtained and it's all
[19:01] <lg188> WaltzingAlong i have WoW on my Kubuntu but i am not on it now how do i make a private server ?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: lp?
[19:01] <PoloGoomba> ip*
[19:01] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: ask google
[19:01] <Rukus-> i'm not sure what u want me to tell you
[19:02] <lg188> WaltzingAlong that is a good idea why do i not think at that ? :s
[19:02] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: pastebin the results of that command
[19:02] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[19:02] <Rukus-> it shows me alot
[19:02] <Rukus-> i dont have that computer on the internet
[19:02] <Rukus-> one sec
[19:02] <Rukus-> gonna wire it in
[19:03] <Rukus-> http://pastebin.ca/763782
[19:03] <PoloGoomba> Soo what can i do now?
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: no need... does one of them show something other than "no wirless extensions?
[19:03] <Rukus-> http://pastebin.ca/763782
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: the IP is obtained? then its probably a DNS issue
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> thanks Rukus-
[19:04] <lg188> WaltzingAlong  taht is wy i like linux en c°
[19:04] <PoloGoomba> I don't know how to put the DNS
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: just a second..
[19:04] <Rukus-> i have a "windows wireless Drivers" app installed but it doesnt load
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: try running "ping 72.14.215.104"
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: run "iwlist eth1 scan"
[19:05] <PoloGoomba> If i haven't put the DNS i can't work anything soo
[19:05] <Rukus-> no scan results
[19:06] <poison--> !swat
[19:06] <PoloGoomba> Soo why do a Ip ping? ;)
[19:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: it bypasses DNS
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: what chipset?
[19:07] <Rukus-> broadcom 4318
[19:07] <PoloGoomba> Aha ;)
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> !broadcom
[19:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:07] <PoloGoomba> And i type where these line?
[19:08] <nosrednaekim> PoloGoomba: in the terminal
[19:08] <PoloGoomba> ;)
[19:08] <PoloGoomba> Ok , i do that later because i've shutdown my laptop
[19:08] <PoloGoomba> i record what must i do ;)
[19:08] <PoloGoomba> Thanks
[19:09] <Rukus-> ok i am going to start over again
[19:09] <lg188> i like it to be back
[19:09] <Rukus-> i'll be back
[19:09] <tekteen> can someone help me. My preseed file is not working. It does not seem to be answering any questions. I pasted it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43569/.
[19:09] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I SSH to a local computer in my network?
[19:09] <PoloGoomba> Goodbye ;)
[19:09] <WaltzingAlong> snowdonkey: ssh user@ip
[19:09] <WaltzingAlong> snowdonkey: through konqueror sftp://user@ip
[19:10] <snowdonkey> waltzingalong: Ah, thanks.
[19:10] <WaltzingAlong> snowdonkey: maybe you want ssh -CX  for compression and forwarding X too
[19:10] <WaltzingAlong> snowdonkey: and you may want to read about passwordless ssh log in
[19:13] <snowdonkey> waltzingalong: is passwordless SSH like using a key?
[19:13] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[19:13] <tekteen> yes
[19:14] <tekteen> can someone help me. My preseed file is not working. It does not seem to be answering any questions. I pasted it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43569/.
[19:14] <snowdonkey> Ok cool.
[19:16] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> im having trouble with truecrypt..
[19:16] <Wolven_Pariah_UK> need GLIBC_2.4
[19:17] <Rukus-> i am going to go freakin nuts
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: :(
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: did you read the sticky on the forum about braodcom?
[19:19] <downix> Ya know, I don't get why I can't install mozilla...
[19:19] <Rukus-> yeah
[19:19] <Rukus-> i hate lots of compiling stuff
[19:19] <WaltzingAlong> mozilla?
[19:19] <Rukus-> and i run amd64
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: oh... are you trying to use a 32 bit windows driver?
[19:20] <downix> WaltzingAlong: Yes.  I apt-got it, but got an error
[19:20] <Rukus-> i dont know what i am doing
[19:20] <WaltzingAlong> and the error?
[19:20] <downix> no such file or directory
[19:21] <WaltzingAlong> you did what to see that
[19:21] <downix> just ran aptitude.
[19:21] <WaltzingAlong> sudo aptitude              then you see no such file or directory?
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> Rukus-: I betcha you are using 32 bit windows drivers.
[19:22] <downix> sudo aptitude install firefox  then no such file or directory after it checks the database.
[19:22] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx          and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[19:22] <WaltzingAlong> downix: aptitude search firefox
[19:22] <WaltzingAlong> !find firefox
[19:22] <Rukus-> AUGH
[19:22] <ubotu> Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)
[19:23] <downix> trying through the gui util this time
[19:23] <Rukus-> now i cant even connect wired on that pc
[19:23] <Rukus-> fuck fu c
[19:23] <Rukus-> sorry
[19:24] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: take a breather, come back later
[19:24] <Rukus-> i'm finbe
[19:24] <Rukus-> how do i connect wired now
[19:25] <WaltzingAlong> put in the wire
[19:25] <WaltzingAlong> running a dhcp server? sudo dhclient eth0 force a request to the server
[19:25] <Rukus-> are you trying to be helpful? or trying ot infuriate me further?
[19:25] <Rukus-> lol thanks
[19:26] <WaltzingAlong> you need the right mindset to arrive at the solution
[19:26] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[19:27] <Rukus-> ok that works now
[19:27] <Rukus-> lol
[19:27] <Rukus-> that amd64 wiki
[19:27] <Rukus-> is it fine for gutsy?
[19:27] <bobiras> hi guys, how u play subtitles in an avi file?
[19:27] <downix> ok, it works from the gui
[19:27] <Rukus-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64
[19:27] <downix> still not used to using a gui for anything but web browsing
[19:28] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: it shows at the top that for newer releases you can just install ndiswrapper
[19:28] <Rukus-> what do u mean
[19:28] <frank23> how can I get my wireless network connected using WPA at bootup instead of having to enter my password at the prompt when I login?
[19:28] <Rukus-> apt-get ndiswrapper ?
[19:28] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: so with your card the choices are ndiswrapper and perhaps bcm433;
[19:29] <Dresken> wonder if I can get the terminal to fetch me a cake
[19:29] <Dresken> apt-get cake!
[19:29] <Rukus-> i'm rather confused at what you are trying to tell me
[19:29] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: you can install ndiswrapper that way but then you need to follow the rest of the instructions (starting at "install driver")
[19:30] <Rukus-> so apt-get install ndiswrapper-common correct? and then follow ndiswrapper conmfiguration following that?
[19:30] <Rukus-> thats what i did before. lasted until a reboot
[19:30] <zyntax> were can i download drivers for g-force2 mx400
[19:31] <zyntax> realy need help
[19:31] <KirO> Hi, is there any know bug on the installation of kubuntu 7.10 while "partitioning" the hard disk?
[19:31] <TimS> Apart from the default wireless networking tool, is there another good one I could download, one that might work?
[19:31] <Rukus-> WaltzingAlong ?
[19:32] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: wireless is not working, right? there needs to be a module (driver) that allows it to work. bcm43xx is the native linux one, ndiswrapper is another which just wraps around native windows
[19:32] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: ok if it is not loading each boot, then
[19:32] <Rukus-> ugh
[19:32] <WaltzingAlong> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[19:32] <lg188> !galcking | lg188
[19:32] <Rukus-> how do i install ndiswrapper
[19:32] <Rukus-> ok?
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> apt-get install ndiswrapper?
[19:33] <WaltzingAlong> seems like you installed it already, should already be there. check it   ndiswrapper -l
[19:33] <KirO> Somebody knows what is happening here http://yokese.asubola.es/instant%C3%A1nea1.png ?
[19:33] <Rukus-> its not installed
[19:33] <WaltzingAlong> !find ndiswrapper
[19:33] <ubotu> Found: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 3 others)
[19:34] <lg188> bey
[19:34] <Rukus-> you need to listen to what i need help on, and lets go step by step, if you throw down sometrhing thats helpful and i am not prepared for it, its not helping me. because i do appreciate the help but i want to avoid both of us getting frustrated
[19:34] <WaltzingAlong> !ndiswrapper
[19:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:34] <frank23> how can I get my wireless network connected using WPA at bootup instead of having to enter my password at the prompt when I login?
[19:35] <WaltzingAlong> frank23: enter the details in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:35] <WaltzingAlong> frank23: or with wpa_supplicant
[19:35] <mike-kubuntu> my disc mounting seems to me messed up in gutsy
[19:35] <mike-kubuntu> my laptop takes a while to recognize any cds/ usb sticks and doesnt mount sometimes, and my desktop just stopped recognizing usb drives, camera's, and cds
[19:36] <mike-kubuntu> sometimes i can get it to go by taking them out and putting them back in a bunch
[19:36] <frank23> WaltzingAlong: where do I put the wpa password?
[19:36] <WaltzingAlong> frank23: read up on wpa_supplicant
[19:36] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: ok
[19:36] <frank23> WaltzingAlong: in other words RTFM
[19:37] <WaltzingAlong> lol :D
[19:37] <WaltzingAlong> frank23: it would be in the wpa_supplicant config fil
[19:37] <WaltzingAlong> e
[19:37] <frank23> WaltzingAlong: ok
[19:37] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-common
[19:37] <Rukus-> ok installing ndiswrapper-common using apt-get
[19:38] <Rukus-> ok done
[19:38] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[19:38] <WaltzingAlong> then you need the ms windows 64bit driver too
[19:38] <Rukus-> ah i see
[19:38] <Rukus-> ok
[19:38] <Rukus-> i will locate that on the internet
[19:38] <Rukus-> one sec
[19:38] <Rukus-> aptitude = apt-get ?
[19:39] <WaltzingAlong> more or less
[19:39] <Rukus-> what is aptitude?
[19:39] <WaltzingAlong> !info aptitude
[19:39] <ubotu> aptitude: terminal-based apt frontend. In component main, is important. Version 0.4.6.1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1507 kB, installed size 9072 kB
[19:39] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: then you can follow these instructions starting with "installing windows driver"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[19:39] <Rukus-> is it better than just using apt-get ?
[19:39] <KirO> may someone help me with my problem?
[19:39] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus-: i prefer it but to each one's own
[19:40] <WaltzingAlong> !es
[19:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:40] <WaltzingAlong> KirO: or explain the messages in english for this channel
[19:41] <Rukus-> ok thanks waltzing along
[19:41] <Rukus-> WaltzingAlong
[19:41] <pierre-luc> coucou
[19:41] <KirO> ok im translating
[19:41] <KirO> just a moment
[19:43] <KirO> . WaltzingAlong ok, the message says "An error have happened while saving changes of storage devices. \n\n The size adjust operation was interrupted"
[19:50] <KirO> nobody knows what may be the problem?
[19:50] <Rukus-> it wont work
[19:50] <Rukus-> this is retarded
[19:50] <KirO> :?
[19:50] <Rukus-> i cant get ndiswrapper to work with my wireless card
[19:50] <TimS> How can I find out what chipset my wireless usb stick runs on, is there a command I could run?
[19:51] <KirO> . TimS lsusb
[19:51] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Well, I'm back.  I was letting aptitude run and had to go do some other things.  After running apt-get dist-upgrade a few times, it got to the point where it didn't want to install or uninstall anything else.  I then did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (which had been removed at some earlier point).
[19:51] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: That packaging situation now seems to be sane.  I think everything has been updated to gusty packages.
[19:51] <TimS> KirO all i get is Belkin Componenets F57050 ver 1000 wifi
[19:52] <TimS> I wanted to know if its ralink or whatever
[19:52] <unperson> WaltzingAlong: Of course, I guess I'll really find out if I reboot.
[19:53] <KirO> search google for the line who has the info of the stick, maybe you'll get the driver info
[19:56] <hhghg> Helllo
[19:56] <hhghg> What have I to do when Kubuntu Live Ask me for root password?!
[19:56] <hhghg> I want to change and mount my partitions!
[19:57] <hhghg> My System is down!
[19:58] <unperson> hhghg: What happens if you put in no password?
[19:58] <Rukus-> npw my wireless connection doesnt even show up
[19:58] <hhghg> Login Faild!
[19:58] <Ze_M> can anyone tell me an application to check wifi sinal?
[19:59] <KirO> . Ze_M iwlist <device> scan as root
[19:59] <KirO> I'm going dinner, bye :P
[20:01] <unperson> hhghg: Sorry, I don't have experience with the live CD.  Maybe someone else does.
[20:03] <Ze_M> KirO: it have GUI?
[20:03] <hhghg> Thanks I found sth with Dr.Google I`m Going to test!maybe it work!
[20:03] <hhghg> Open up a terminal and type sudo passwd root #-o
[20:03] <Ze_M> can anyone tell me an application with GUI to check wifi sinal?
[20:04] <unperson> hhghg: That will allow you to set a root password.
[20:05] <unperson> hhghg: Is that what you wanted to do?
[20:05] <unperson> hhghg: (and setting a root password enables the root account)
[20:06] <ubuntu> 44
[20:06] <dencrypt> 55
[20:06] <mkz> where is it configured in gutsy to automount devices such as cd's, dvd's, memory sticks, etc?
[20:08] <_Shade_> i'm looking for some screencast program for qt. Can you advice something?
[20:09] <emilsedgh> _Shade_: screenKast or something like that, google it
[20:10] <KalEl> does kubuntu have a 'Startup' equivalent? how do i start certain programs when i log in?
[20:10] <ScorpKing> KalEl: link it in .kde/Autostart
[20:11] <hhghg> From what I find in net I understood(I`m not english maybe my grammer is wrong) that It`s not Active by default but the system terminal doesn`t take care and ask for a passwd that is not out there!
[20:11] <KalEl> ok thanks, ScorpKing
[20:11] <tinin> the tool for upgrading seems to have stopped downloading packages at 17%, what could I do?
[20:11] <tinin> while upgrading to 7.10
[20:12] <KalEl> ScorpKing, also is it possible to set my screen geometry to something different from my actual resolution?
[20:12] <ScorpKing> not sure what you mean. look in kcontrol
[20:13] <KalEl> tinin, i had the same problem - it was solved when i changed to a different mirror
[20:14] <tinin> So I'll have to stop it and change my spanish mirrors I guess
[20:14] <KalEl> talking about mirrors, there seems to be a bug in adept - when i try to search for the best mirror it crashes!
[20:15] <KalEl> so 'search for best server/mirror' thing doesn't work
[20:16] <KalEl> and the kde remote desktop server is not compatible with knetwork for kde 3.5
[20:16] <KalEl> other than that my experience with kubuntu is smooth.
[20:16] <tinin> Adept has always seemed very buggy and difficult for me. It is a tool developed for kubuntu specifically, and at early stages. Synaptic does not fail
[20:17] <KalEl> oh it's developed for kubuntu? i didn't know that... there must be some alternative then? the norm for kde?
[20:17] <dencrypt> I've been using adept 2 times since installation 6 hours ago :) Haven't made me cry yet :)
[20:18] <KalEl> dencrypt, could u confirm if find best servder' works - it's in 'manage repositories'
[20:18] <poison--> !boot
[20:18] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[20:19] <KalEl> it works fine with synaptic for me though.
[20:19] <KalEl> unfortunately i got rid of synaptic when i switched to kubuntu
[20:19] <dencrypt> one moment
[20:19] <tinin> Now the distribution upgrade tool is workng again, It was just a slow server
[20:20] <ScorpKing> hiya poison--
[20:20] <dencrypt> KalEl: yes, works here.
[20:20] <KalEl> wow that's nice :)
[20:21] <KalEl> meaning i might also be able to get it work somehow
[20:21] <KalEl> thanks, dencrypt
[20:23] <dencrypt> np
[20:23] <lordofthepigs> Hello. Is Gutsy supposed to automount NTFS USB HDD?
[20:23] <Fleck> hello, i think this is not just kubuntu releated, but knetwork manager just sucks ;( for example - if i have 2 networks, one home with name "foo" and another in work with name "bar", then if i don't turn my laptop off while drive home, i allmost every time have problem to connect to home network and vice versa
[20:23] <Downix> lordofthepigs: Who uses NTFS on a USB drive?
[20:24] <lordofthepigs> Downix: They used to be Desktop drives, and I shoved them in an enclosure
[20:24] <lordofthepigs> Anyway, do you actually know if it is supposed to?
[20:25] <Downix> it depends on which version of ntfs
[20:25] <lordofthepigs> It was created with WinXP
[20:25] <Downix> Gutsy handled my 1.0 and 2.0 drives no problem
[20:25] <lordofthepigs> And it mounts without warnings when I use mount -t ntfs-3g
[20:25] <Downix> tells me nothing, XP has used 2.0 and 3.0 depending on some whim of Microsoft.
[20:25] <Downix> likely you have a 3.0 then
[20:25] <Downix> won't mount automatically for some reason
[20:25] <Downix> I reformatted mine to JFS awhile back
[20:26] <lordofthepigs> how can I found out my version of NTFS?
[20:26] <Downix> you could hex-edit the boot block
[20:26] <Downix> otherwise, that's about it
[20:26] <Downix> that I know of, anyways
[20:26] <lordofthepigs> By the way, is there any journaled FS that will be mounted by both linux and windows (other than NTFS)?
[20:27] <poison--> hi ScorpKing
[20:27] <poison--> sup
[20:27] <lordofthepigs> I know ext2 has windows drivers, but it's not journaled
[20:27] <Downix> NTFS is journaled?
[20:27] <lordofthepigs> yeah, of course it is.
[20:27] <Downix> Since when?
[20:27] <lordofthepigs> well... since the beginning I guess
[20:27] <froggles_> what does it mean for a file system to be journaled ?
[20:28] <Downix> I've used it since the mid-90's, it very much wasn't journalled when I began with it.
[20:28] <Downix> froggles_: it's complex, but the basics mean you're less likely to mess up the drive if something goes wrong.
[20:28] <roob> !nvidia
[20:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:28] <Downix> lordofthepigs: xfs and jfs both have Windows drivers I believe
[20:28] <lordofthepigs> froggles_: It means that it will make sure that you can't leave the filesystem in a corrupt state without beeing able to recover from the corruption
[20:29] <lordofthepigs> well, theorically, at least
[20:30] <lordofthepigs> I guess NTFS has journaling since windows 2000
[20:30] <Downix> lordofthepigs: I checked, NTFS has a journalling system, but is not a journalled FS.  It's journalled in the same way ext2 is to make ext3.
[20:31] <lordofthepigs> what's the difference?
[20:31] <lordofthepigs> practically, I mean.
[20:31] <Downix> lordofthepigs: One has it as part of the FS itself, one doesn't, it's a service added on top of it.
[20:31] <Downix> practically it means that weither it's journalled or not depends on what is reading it at the time.  Something not-journal aware, well, it's not journalled.
[20:32] <Downix> example, I had NTFS corrupt on me awhile back when XP's filesystem driver was messed up.
[20:32] <Downix> corrupted the jorunalling system, which in turn damaged the filesystem
[20:33] <lordofthepigs> I see
[20:33] <Downix> while systems like ReiserFS, XFS, and JFS have the journalling inherent to the design itself, so you cannot have it bypassed, or damaged
[20:34] <froggles_> is it safe for your filesystem if you just pull the plug rather than the shutdown command ?
[20:34] <lordofthepigs> Is there anyway I can setup ubuntu to automount my NTFS drives
[20:34] <lordofthepigs> froggles: no, because sometimes the OS doesn't write to the disk immediately (for optimization purposes)
[20:35] <Downix> froggles: Nope
[20:35] <lordofthepigs> if you just unplug the drive, the OS can never write this data to the disk
[20:35] <lordofthepigs> which might (or might not) fuck up your filesystem
[20:35] <LjL> language...
[20:35] <froggles> that probobly explains why i need a new harddrive every month or so.
[20:36] <Downix> you likely don't, you just need to reformat
[20:36] <vbgunz> I cannot find any man page in my system for umask. the docs I find online don't say much about it. how do I learn more about umask? what is great reading here?
[20:36] <lordofthepigs> froggles: Well, It shouldn't damage your hard drive itself though
[20:36] <lordofthepigs> just the data on it
[20:36] <froggles> must be the power supply then.
[20:36] <vbgunz> I got a wikipedia article on it. checking it out now
[20:37] <froggles> so why doesent linux need applications to defragment the hard drive ?
[20:37] <lordofthepigs> Heh, it's more like they can't, AFAIK
[20:38] <lordofthepigs> And it seems that the default linux filesystem is pretty smart when it comes to file placement, which reduces fragmentation a lot
[20:39] <Downix> froggles:  The linux filesystem structure is more rigid than Windows, fragmentation is at a minimal as a result
[20:39] <Downix> and it self-corrects as well
[20:39] <Downix> also, depends on which filesystem you refer to.  ext2/3? JFS? ReiserFS? XFS?
[20:40]  * froggles uses ext3
[20:41] <vbgunz> how can I restrict a user from using mount in any way, shape or form? including but not limited to external USB devices?
[20:45] <ivan_> hi all
[20:45] <Kernel> !restricted
[20:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:45] <ivan_> is there some app that could help me just DRAW and DESIGN GUIs?
[20:45] <vbgunz> ivan_: qt designer
[20:46] <ivan_> i don't need it to actually program it..
[20:46] <ivan_> i'm writing a spec for an app that will be developed soon...
[20:46] <vbgunz> qt4-designer
[20:46] <vbgunz> try that
[20:46] <xst> Has anyone any experiences with gutsy on a IBM lenovo T60 laptop?
[20:46] <ivan_> and i just need to create a mockup with the basic elements and how they will look
[20:47] <vbgunz> xst: whats the deal? curious, your mouse is freaking out?
[20:47] <ivan_> i just don't want to install visio on this notebook =)))
[20:48] <crolle17> what package do i have to install for seeing all the nice flash-videos on youtube & myspace?
[20:48] <xst> vbgunz: Nope, I just want to hear some success stories before I upgrade from Feisty
[20:48] <vbgunz> crolle17: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:49] <vbgunz> crolle17: also, try out ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:49] <ivan_> qt designer isn't exactly at what i would need, it still presumes that you are going to actually develop this exact interface...
[20:49] <vbgunz> some packages are found in ubuntu not in kubuntu. not sure if they're really required but I don't think they hurt
[20:49] <ivan_> eh.. where's my crossover deb =(
[20:50] <crolle17> vbgunz, thanx i'll do so.
[20:52] <frojnd> Does anyone know how would I rotate page for 90˚ to the left. Somehow kghostview turn every slide for 90˚ to the right ??
[20:53] <tinin> I had to stop the distribution upgrade tool because the selected servers were too slow, How do I start it again?
[20:53] <crolle17> vbgunz, do you also know how to list all packages fitting to a grep? dpkg -l | grep search_string only will list all installed packages.
[20:54] <linuse2> ciao a tutti
[20:54] <OuZo> hi, i just installed ubuntu-serverguide but were did the files install to? thanks
[20:54] <blackwaltz> Humm, anyone around happen to know much about initramfs stuff?
[20:54] <vbgunz> crolle17: sudo apt-cache search kubuntu | grep restricted
[20:55] <vbgunz> crolle17: use apt-cache search <keyword> | grep <filter>
[20:55] <crolle17> vbgunz, dpkg is not able to search the sources.repos?
[20:55] <vbgunz> crolle17: not sure, I use apt-cache search
[20:55] <crolle17> o.k.
[20:56] <crolle17> vbgunz, i installed all these nice extras, but youtube & myspace don't want to show me the videos.
[20:56] <crolle17> still
[20:57] <_Angelus_> what is util-linux
[20:57] <crolle17> maybe the flash-player has be installed seperately?
[20:57] <_Angelus_> cause linux32 wants to uninstall it
[20:58] <vbgunz> flashplugin-nonfree
[20:59] <crolle17> vbgunz, that is the ne i installed before...
[20:59] <crolle17> vbgunz, this was my first idea...
[20:59] <crolle17> vbgunz, i also got libflash-mozplugin
[20:59] <rewolf_laptop> is there a reason why, when upgrading to gutsy, the updater just disappears.  it finsihed downloading all the install files, and immediately after, it disappeared? it didnt start installing
[20:59] <vbgunz> not sure what the issue is :(
[21:00] <crolle17> thank you anyway.
[21:01] <froggles> hi
[21:02] <froggles> ps aux | grep tty # shows a list of terminals.  how can i find out which process (such as this irssi session) is using which terminal ?
[21:05] <blackwaltz> froggles: maybe you could get the type of info you're looking for with pstree -p instead?
[21:08] <_Angelus_> why isn't there ia32-libs-gtk on gutsy?
[21:10] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: I think it may be included in the ia32-libs package, seeing as the two packages conflict, same thing goes for nvidia-glx-ia32(as of gutsy), ia32-libs-sdl(as of gutsy), and ia32-libs-openoffice.org(as of feisty)
[21:11] <_Angelus_> i don't think so
[21:11] <_Angelus_> it doesn't include libgtk-1.2.so.0 as far as i can see
[21:14] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: odd
[21:24] <roob> hello all i have a pvr-150 tv card...it worked untill i did ivtv-tune -c 52 (to change the channel) i then lost all sound......changing to a new channel doesnt bring the sound back....anyone have any ideas?
[21:28] <WaltzingAlong> aptitude search <keyword> | grep <filter>
[21:29] <ScorpKing> that is usefull ^
[21:29] <ScorpKing> unless you search for g++ ;)
[21:30] <ScorpKing> nite guys. have fun.
[21:33] <slow-motion> n8
[21:36] <Wulong> How I can make dolphin understand that mplayer is my default player?
[21:37] <iiggoorr> i am going to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, but have alsa (and ACPI4asus) installed via "make install", will i have some problems after upgrade? Will conf files be handled in a right way?
[21:38] <_Angelus_> someone tell me how am i gonna get a 32bit libgtk-1.2.so :(
[21:38] <_Angelus_> pleasee somebody help me
[21:43] <arrouan_> Wulong: Start kcontrol then go to KDE Components/File Associations, then click on video. Here you have a list of file types with the list of applications that can open them.
[21:43] <bobiras> does anyone know who i can fix the prob. "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there waasa a problem downloading some pachages or the commit would break packages"?
[21:45] <rage144> Hello
[21:46] <rage144> I just got started with kubuntu, and I was wondering if anyone in here could tell me how or what program I can get, to open .zip files.
[21:46] <Wulong> arrouan_: thanks
[21:46] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: Well, there is another way to do it
[21:46] <Wulong> rage144: ark
[21:46] <rage144> It does not work :/
[21:46] <Wulong> Just install unzip and zip packages-
[21:46] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: download the 32-bit deb file, extract it with dpkg -x, copy the contents to /lib32
[21:46] <_Angelus_> blackflag:  how
[21:46] <_Angelus_> ah
[21:46] <_Angelus_> pl
[21:46] <_Angelus_> * ok
[21:46] <_Angelus_> :p
[21:46] <rage144> Wulong That does not work either
[21:47] <_Angelus_> from packages.ubuntu.com blackflag right?
[21:47] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: come to think of it there's a not cleaner but *easier* way to do it
[21:47] <Wulong> rage144: did you install them with apt-get? did you restart ark afterwards?
[21:47] <_Angelus_> how
[21:47] <rage144> Wulong: It came with the distro
[21:48] <Wulong> Unzip and zip is not bundled or it was one of them.
[21:48] <Wulong> Type in terminal: sudo apt-get install zip unzip
[21:48] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: there's a script floating around, cappy wrote it, I forget what it's called
[21:49] <rage144> Its already at the newest version it says.
[21:49] <_Angelus_> blackflag: yeah, thats a funky problem, finding the unamed
[21:49] <rage144> Maybe I am typing in an incorrect term while extracting, what would be a good command to type?
[21:49] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: found it
[21:50] <Wulong> rage144: click on a file and open it in ark.
[21:50] <blackwaltz> _Angelus_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790&highlight=cappy
[21:50] <_Angelus_> thats what imtalkin' bout
[21:50] <Wulong> If it don't work use "unzip file.zip".
[21:50] <bignall> I'm having trouble with adobe acrobat reader in gutsy.  I've used the previous versions many, many times to print a file in landscape, but now all it will do is print in portrait no matter what I do.  Can someone please help me?  I'm desperate to get it working correctly!
[21:50] <rage144> Yup, still doesnt work
[21:52] <_Angelus_> blackflag: think i'll stick to the "do it yourself" way
[21:53] <mac__> anyone have experience building their own kernal?  apperently I have to do that if I want sound support on a dell inspiron 1720 but I'm afraid to do it myself since I'll most like just destroy my install
[21:53] <rage144> Ok, well I tried the zip thing again just for kicks, and it gave me an error
[21:53] <rage144> End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[21:53] <rage144>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[21:53] <rage144>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[21:53] <rage144>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[21:53] <rage144> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of DezerUI-1191397953.zip or
[21:53] <rage144>         DezerUI-1191397953.zip.zip, and cannot find DezerUI-1191397953.zip.ZIP, period.
[21:53] <rage144> and it did not work
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> mac__: modprobe snd_hda_intel
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> doesn't work?
[21:54] <xiscogina> hola, tengo un problema con el kde
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> !es | xiscogina
[21:54] <ubotu> xiscogina: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:54] <mac__> one sec I'll try that
[21:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm on a 1420, it might be somewhat different
[21:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh, and...
[21:55] <rage144> hablamos ingles
[21:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> !paste | rage144
[21:55] <ubotu> rage144: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:56] <rage144> Can anyone help me with my zip/unzipping problems?
[21:56] <rage144> I cant find any programs that will recognize zip files.
[21:56] <mac__> is it supposed to have an output when it does that?  It just goes to the next line whether I use sudo or not
[21:56] <blackwaltz> mac__: it's not _too_ hard to do really .. most of the process is so automated that it's really just down to making sure you can follow a howto and picking the right settings
[21:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> mac__: there shouldn't be output
[21:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> but now you might want to try sound
[21:57] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I want to give my static IP to someone so they can SSH to my computer.  However when I do "ip addr" my static IP isn't listed for eth0; only the local address.
[21:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> snowdonkey: go to a site like whatsmyip.com
[21:57] <snowdonkey> daisuke_laptop: Ok thx.  Is it a problem though that it isn't showing up?
[21:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> or better yet, hit up dyndns.org and get a hostname
[21:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> snowdonkey: nope, it will only show the local because that's the ip it believes it has
[21:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> assigned by the router
[21:58] <rafael_carreras> rage144: zip and unzip are installed by default, that's all you need
[21:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> rage144: if it doesn't work, it ain't a zip.
[21:59] <rage144> rafael_carreras It does not work
[21:59] <snowdonkey> daisuke_laptop: I see, thanks.
[21:59] <rage144> Daisuke_Laptop: But it is a zip
[21:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> just because it says .zip doesn't make it a zip
[21:59] <rage144> Daisuke_Laptop I am not a retard
[21:59] <xiscogina> i got troubles with my linux
[21:59] <rage144> Daisuke_Laptop: I zipped it myself on a previous computer.
[22:00] <mac__> theres a red X over my volume control and it says mixer not found
[22:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> mac__: double-click and open the volume control
[22:00] <vge> hmm, where can i check the sources for example kde panel application?
[22:01] <mac__> the list of mixers is empty
[22:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> vge: kde.org?  or even kde-look, i think they have applets
[22:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> mac__: i see :\
[22:01] <xiscogina> when I try to open konqueror, it says "It's not formatted"
[22:01] <vge> Daisuke_Laptop: im more looking the sourcecode of those applets?
[22:02] <mac__> theres a bug report in for it that says you have to build a custom kernal...
[22:02] <mac__> but I haven't the slightest idea how to do that
[22:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> vge: as most of them are gpl, the source will be there.
[22:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> in fact, i think the vast majority of them, if not all, are gpl
[22:03] <vge> there as where?
[22:03] <mac__> ?
[22:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> anywhere you can find the applets
[22:04] <vge> ic
[22:04] <GuHHH> in case i need to backup my services configurations, which dirs should i backup? /etc/ and /usr/local/ ?
[22:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> mac__: i've never built a kernel, but as someone else said, it's a matter of picking choices from a menu and following a howto
[22:04] <vge> Daisuke_Laptop: "build in" ones?
[22:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> vge: for those you'd have to download the source packages
[22:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't know what they are, though :\
[22:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> heya soulrider
[22:06] <xiscogina> how can I go back to a previos day to my linux, to remove some thing I did wrong
[22:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> xiscogina: there's no system restore like in windows, if that's what you're asking
[22:07] <xiscogina> daisuke laptop yes that's what I want to know
[22:07] <blackwaltz> Anyone around by an off chance happen to know why update-initramfs might fail, *displaying the gzip usage information*
[22:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> xiscogina: if you didn't back up, there's not much you can do
[22:08] <soulrider> hey Daisuke_Ido
[22:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> although i won't say that's definite without knowing the extent of what you may have done
[22:09] <blackwaltz> if all you did was delete a file then it may be vaguely possible to recover it if the blocks that contained it haven't been overwritten since then
[22:09] <xiscogina> daisuke: the thing is that when I try to open konqueror, it says " not formatted"
[22:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> but what partition/directory is konqueror trying to access?
[22:10] <xiscogina> daisuke: it seems I have lost my configuration
[22:10] <xiscogina> '/usr/share/applications/kde/konqbrowser.desktop'  this is what I read
[22:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, when you launch konqueror, what does it say isn't formatted?
[22:12] <xiscogina> ('/usr/share/applications/kde/konqbrowser.desktop' is not formatted), this is what the screen shows
[22:12] <denise> Hi i used to use Windows XP and just got a new computer I was wondering if anyone can help me
[22:13] <denise> Im trying to download stuff but there is a arrer
[22:13] <blackwaltz> denise: sure, what sort of error?
[22:13] <denise> in adapt maniger
[22:13] <denise> sorry not that great at spelling
[22:13] <tekteen> no problem
[22:13] <denise> it says its already in use
[22:14] <tekteen> restart your machine
[22:14] <tekteen> it should work
[22:14] <denise> ok
[22:14] <denise> brb
[22:18] <blackwaltz> oops, I disappeared for a minute ...
[22:18] <blackwaltz> This would probably be an easier way to have fixed it denise:
[22:18] <blackwaltz> !adeptfix
[22:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:19] <denise> it says another package is useing the system and would you like the resolve this problem yes or no
[22:19] <denise> when i click yes it crashes
[22:20] <denise> when i click no it just goes into it and i can not do anything in adept manager what can i do
[22:20] <tekteen> !adeptfix | denise
[22:20] <ubotu> denise: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:20] <moparisthebest> somehow I hid my KDE panel and I can't get it back
[22:20] <moparisthebest> anyone know how to run the configuration manager without it?
[22:20] <denise> in the termanil
[22:21] <blackwaltz> moparisthebest: perhaps pressing alt+f2 and typing "kicker" will bring it back
[22:21] <moparisthebest> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[22:21] <moparisthebest> ive restarted, and it works with other user accounts
[22:22] <moparisthebest> i pulled up the configuration editor earlier and must have changed something
[22:22] <denise> ok this is what it says
[22:22] <moparisthebest> you know how you can right click on it and click 'configure panel'
[22:22] <denise> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of sun-java5-jre:
[22:22] <denise>  sun-java5-jre depends on sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1) | ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1); however:
[22:22] <moparisthebest> can I get that menu up without the panel in the first place?
[22:22] <denise>   Package sun-java5-bin is not installed.
[22:22] <denise>   Package ia32-sun-java5-bin is not installed.
[22:22] <blackwaltz> moparisthebest: how about running kcontrol instead then?
[22:22] <denise> dpkg: error processing sun-java5-jre (--configure):
[22:22] <denise>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[22:22] <denise> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[22:22] <denise> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[22:22] <denise> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:22] <denise>  sun-java5-jre
[22:22] <snowdonkey> moparisthebest: kcmshell %i kicker_config kcmtaskbar
[22:23] <denise> now what
[22:23] <denise> do i put in
[22:23] <blackwaltz> denise: sudo apt-get -f install
[22:23] <denise> ok
[22:23] <moparisthebest> thanks snowdonkey, worked perfectly :)
[22:24] <snowdonkey> moparisthebest: np, it was in the menu of my zenwalk install w/ kde so I just looked at its command  :)
[22:24] <denise> i love copy and paste
[22:24] <moparisthebest> thats what I tried to find from another account, but couldn't quite find it :)
[22:25] <denise> ok its done
[22:25] <denise> says setting up java
[22:25] <denise> thats what i was trying to get going java for yahoo games and firefox
[22:26] <denise> should i try adept manager agian
[22:27] <moparisthebest> denise, are you saying java applets don't work in firefox?
[22:28] <denise> no i was trying to get the browser firefox
[22:28] <denise> i like that one
[22:28] <moparisthebest> either through adept-manager or 'apt-get install firefox'
[22:28] <denise> and its working now thanks so much
[22:28] <tekteen> denise: have you installed sun-java[5 or 6]-plugin
[22:28] <qolo> hey whats the pottery whell called in pottery
[22:28] <denise> not the plugin yet i can do that now
[22:28] <moparisthebest> do it after you have installed firefox
[22:29] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[22:29] <roob> hello all...ive set up ndiswrapper....ive got my driver installed i have a wlan0, ive set it up to static ip.....but it wont work....i cant ping my router or google.com
[22:29] <roob> anything im missing?
[22:29] <denise> oh ok
[22:30] <denise> um theres alot witch one
[22:31] <denise> just firefox
[22:31] <denise> theres one that says that
[22:32] <roob> when i set up the wireless to use dhcp i get a weird ip of "169.254.5.170" ....which is neither my lan ip or my wan ip
[22:32] <vsudilov> I know I have a sound chip on my motherboard that is interfering with my sound system -- how do I find out what to entry to add to modprobe.d/blacklist?
[22:32] <moparisthebest> roob, how is your router set up? with dhcp or static IPs?
[22:33] <roob> moparisthebest: it can do both....i want it to be a static ip...but was testing with dhcp because static wasnt working for wireless
[22:33] <Alyxander> roob did you set up your dns in the laptops or the wireless clients
[22:34] <Alyxander> roob i sometimes find that dns will not populate without dhcp
[22:34] <roob> Alyxander: yea i have name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:34] <denise> Thanks you guys are really smart im going to enjoy my internet now
[22:34] <moparisthebest> are you using knetwork manager to connect or something else?
[22:34] <roob> moparisthebest: i opened systemsettings
[22:34] <roob> and set it up using that
[22:34] <lovre> hi all
[22:34] <ScorpKing> hi lovre
[22:34] <lovre> is any1 here doing PHP programming / graphics developing? i have an offtopic qurestion
[22:35] <ScorpKing> i found the problem when connecting with dialup and not having internet on the kde apps like konqueror.
[22:35] <Rukus-> why does ndiswrapper fuck my system up
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !language | Rukus-
[22:35] <ubotu> Rukus-: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:35] <moparisthebest> roob, try using knetworkmanager
[22:36] <Alyxander> lol becaus its trying to use windows drivers Rukus
[22:36] <roob> moparisthebest: ok will try now :-)
[22:36] <Rukus-> !language Daisuke_Ido
[22:36] <moparisthebest> or gutsy calls the package network-manager-kde i think
[22:36] <lovre> ok, that question was not put right. Anyway, i was wondering if im offered to work on a site, and do everything from graphics design to complete CMS programming, web shop etc... How much could i charge a company for this? (I have no company of my own, i would work on a student contract)
[22:36] <Rukus-> !language | Daisuke_Ido
[22:36] <ubotu> Daisuke_Ido: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Rukus-: no really, watch your language
[22:38] <vsudilov> Ok how do I remove the middle mouse botton copy/paste functionality
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> vsudilov: stop using X
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it's part of X, not the desktop environment
[22:38] <ScorpKing> when there is no network connection knetworkmanager thinks there is no default route so thats what it tells konqueror even tho ppp0 is active. i uninstalled knetworkmanager and now everything seems fine. (i have 45sec lag for some reason. was this posted?)
[22:38] <vsudilov> ah hah
[22:39] <vsudilov> not going to happen
[22:39] <Alyxander> vsudilov its in your pointer behavior settings
[22:39] <moparisthebest> there has to be a way to disable it though
[22:39] <vsudilov> where is that file?
[22:39] <Daisuke_Ido> oh i'm sure
[22:39] <Alyxander> vsudilov kde or gnome
[22:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but after getting used to it, you won't want to :D
[22:39] <Alyxander> either way its in system preferences
[22:39] <vsudilov> kde
[22:40] <roob> hmm i still cant configure my wireless device :-/
[22:40] <snowdonkey> vsudilov: Make sure your mouse in configured to use only 2 buttons in your xorg.conf
[22:40] <ScorpKing> !test
[22:40] <ubotu> Failed.
[22:41] <drx0drx0> Can anyone help a newbie copy some data from a Linux system to a Windows system, a Novell server, or a Hybrid USB drive?
[22:41] <ScorpKing> :D
[22:41] <ScorpKing> brb
[22:41] <vsudilov> snowdonkey: No, I want it to have 3 button configuration...I just want the 3rd button to do something else
[22:41] <qolo> man cp :P
[22:41]  * Minataku meows
[22:41] <lovre> whats compiz official channel?
[22:41] <vsudilov> snowdonkey: I've got it set up for the action I want, but it ALSO copies/pastes in addition to that function
[22:41] <Minataku> Hi ScorpKing, Daisuke_Ido
[22:41] <Minataku> :3
[22:41] <Daisuke_Ido> qolo: not how things are done here.
[22:41] <snowdonkey> vsudilov: ah
[22:41] <roob> brb
[22:41] <Minataku> Hi ScorpKing
[22:41] <Minataku> lol
[22:42] <ScorpKing> hi Minataku
[22:42] <Alyxander> vsudilov system settings keyboard and mouse
[22:42] <rewolf_laptop> ahhhh.  ok my gutsy upgrade crashed twice. so now gutsy is partly installed. half the stuff doesnt work. i have all the packages in cache, but it died during the installation. is there anything i can do to fix this?  It even crashes when i go into System Settings
[22:43] <Wulong> rewolf_laptop: apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:43] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: might be better off reinstalling, be sure to check the disk for errors. Half finished installations are an absolute pain to work with. Last time I had that happpen it was because the cd was corrupt
[22:44] <vsudilov> alyxander: Its not there, I already checked
[22:45] <rewolf_laptop> Wulong if this worx i will cry of happiness. coz apt-get upgrade is doin stuf
[22:45] <Alyxander> ok
[22:45] <rewolf_laptop> dwidmann, i upgraded over the net
[22:45] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: ah, my mistake
[22:46] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: it probably just missed some packages for some reason or another, always best to check after upgrading/dist-upgrading just so you know it'll start up ..
[22:46] <dwidmann> Granted,it's a lot smoother than it used to be, like from dapper -> edgy, that was pretty bad.
[22:47] <rewolf_laptop> how do i check?
[22:47] <rewolf_laptop> wat is backgroundrc about, wat happens if i keep my own one?
[22:47] <rewolf_laptop> soz im a noob
[22:48] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: the same way you are right now, re-running the upgrade/dist-upgrade, another way is to run something like "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", that works too
[22:48] <rewolf_laptop> coz the setup is asking me if it should keep mine
[22:48] <rewolf_laptop> ok shot
[22:48] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: usually you don't want to keep yours, unless you know you changed it yourself.
[22:49] <rewolf_laptop> ok thanks again. yoh, ur helpful. if i paid u would u live in a cage next to my pc. so i can get help all the time. ill give u food... occasionally
[22:49] <bignall> Is there some way to install an older version of a package... specifically I want to back up to an older version of Adobe Acrobat REader.
[22:49] <Wulong> Just let it replace everything to make sure it works. If you know the file it want to replace, you know what to do.
[22:49] <Wulong> bignall: sure, find the package and use "dpkg -i package.deb".
[22:49] <trappist> bignall: with acroread it shouldn't be too hard.  just uninstall what you have and find an older package.
[22:50] <trappist> bignall: in general it's not recommended, because you'll potentially break a lot of dependencies, but no core packages could possibly depend on acroread
[22:51] <bignall> Thanks.  I'll try it... I really have to print landscape and this version won't do it.
[22:51] <trappist> bignall: tried kpdf?
[22:51] <dwidmann> bignall: should be able to get it out of dapper/edgy multiverse, or possibly from medibuntu ...
[22:51] <Wulong> I suggest using something other than acrobatreader.
[22:51]  * ScorpKing slaps usplash..
[22:52] <dwidmann> rewolf_laptop: thanks but I think I'll pass on that
[22:52] <bignall> I've never been able to get KPDF to print in landscape.  I fyou know how, please tell me and I'll use it.
[22:52] <ScorpKing> "Loading /usr/local/lib/usplash/usplash-kubuntu-new.so failed: /usr/local/lib/usplash/usplash-kubuntu-new.so: undefined symbol: usplash_theme"
[22:52]  * ScorpKing cries..
[22:52] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: could be worse .. I've been playing with initramfs for the last couple days and finally managed to really screw things up, not even google could get me out of this one :(
[22:52] <moparisthebest> my panel only shows up on my #1 desktop and not any of the others, anyone know how to fix that? :/
[22:53] <Wulong> ScorpKing: apt-get install --reinstall uspash
[22:53] <Wulong> +l
[22:53] <Wulong> Maybe kubuntu-artwork-usplash too.
[22:54] <ScorpKing> i've been at this for a few days now. i can't get my custom usplash theme to work. at least now i get errors. ;)
[22:54] <dwidmann> moparisthebest, there should be a screen number option in the config dialog you went to before, somewhere or another, that lets you select the display number, at least that's what I get on my desktop.
[22:54] <ScorpKing> Wulong: the default one works fine.
[22:54] <Wulong> ooh
[22:54] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: I've resorted to a reinstall after update-initramfs decided to start failing to work, instead printing out the gzip usage information o.O
[22:54] <Wulong> Use a how-to guide.
[22:55] <moparisthebest> dwidmann, I don't see an option for which desktop to show on
[22:55] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: hehe. ouch.
[22:55] <moparisthebest> im talking multiple desktops, only one monitor to be clear
[22:55] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: I'd take a screenshot, but my desktop is presently down due to reasons cited above
[22:55] <ScorpKing> Wulong: i used these - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[22:56] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: ah, that would be why, sorry about the confusion
[22:56] <moparisthebest> you are talking the 'Configure - KDE Panel' app dwidmann ?
[22:56] <moparisthebest> oh, alright
[22:56] <BluesKaj> no dekstop icons in the panel ?
[22:56] <bignall> How can I specify to install a different package version than the newest one?  Or do I have to go find the .deb and install?
[22:56] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[22:56] <moparisthebest> no panel on any desktop besides #1
[22:56] <Wulong> bignall: you have to find it, or maybe adept have a option for searching older packages.
[22:57] <bignall> Trappist: yes, I tried KPDF, it won't rotate the pages.
[22:57] <Wulong> How can I get knetworkmanager to reconnect my AP when connection is lost? I assume someone else have had the same issue.
[22:57] <bignall> Wulong: I wish it did... one nice thing about symanntic :/
[22:58] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: perhaps it would be easier just to create a new user account and move your files over to it .... then everything would be straight again for sure :)
[22:58] <Wulong> bignall: what's nice about synaptic?
[22:58] <bignall> Wulong: how do I search the packages on medibuntu.
[22:58] <bignall> Wulong: You can select which version of a package to install from the repository.
[22:58] <trappist> Wulong: I just say sudo dhclient
[22:58] <moparisthebest> probably dwidmann, but I have KDE exactly like I want it :(
[22:58] <Wulong> bignall: so install synaptic...
[22:58] <BluesKaj> moparisthebest, have you tried system settings/desktop/multiple desktops ?
[22:59] <ScorpKing> mopar is the best ;) hehe
[22:59] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: doesn't mean you can't move most of those config files that you know you've done something with too
[22:59] <Wulong> trappist: it don't reconnect acess points.
[22:59] <moparisthebest> yes BluesKaj, but I can't find any options there for the panel
[22:59] <bignall> Wulong: I used it a lot when I was using debian. I installed synaptic on feisty, but couldn't get it to work.
[22:59] <trappist> Wulong: maybe I misunderstood your question - your AP is on your box?
[23:00] <trappist> moparisthebest: run 'kicker'?
[23:00] <moparisthebest> already running trappist
[23:00] <Wulong> trappist: AP is short for access point, wifi sharing point if you will.
[23:01] <trappist> Wulong: right :)  if I need to reconnect *to* my AP I say sudo dhclient.  if you're using your wifi card as an AP... that's different.
[23:01] <BluesKaj> moparisthebest , there's a slider at the top of the multiple desktops page , giving the number of desktops options
[23:01] <moparisthebest> yes, ive tried changing that BluesKaj
[23:01] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: the first place I would check would be kcontrol -> (filter for panels), but I'm sure you've already looked there ...
[23:01] <moparisthebest> the problem is the panel only shows up on desktop #1
[23:02] <Wulong> trappist: dhclient is in by default and knetworkmanager is using it. dhclient does not reconnect to my AP, and I'm not using my wlan as AP. Reconnect to my rotuer then.
[23:02] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: what if you reduce the number of desktops to 1, apply, then re-expand the # of desktops to X
[23:02] <BluesKaj> if you did change , have relogged in , moparisthebest ... that's usually requires after a system settings change/
[23:02] <moparisthebest> tried that first dwidmann
[23:02] <BluesKaj> err required
[23:03] <dwidmann> I hate how since Edgy or so they've made the installer cds scan the mirrors and such, it makes the install go SOooooooooooooooooo much slower
[23:04] <Wulong> dwidmann: remove them.
[23:04] <dwidmann> Wulong: the thing is, even with the text mode installer, at the last phase of the install it checks the repositories for some sort of updates or something ... takes forever
[23:05] <dwidmann> (forever being 5-10 minutes at least)
[23:05] <dwidmann> (and seeing as the whole install process doesn't less that doesn't take more than 10-15, it really ticks  me off that it does it)
[23:05] <denise> ok got a problem used to use windows
[23:05] <mauri> mauri
[23:05] <mauri> mauri
[23:06] <dwidmann> denise: I fail to see how the "used to use windows" part is relevant
[23:06] <dwidmann> denise: you've already fixed that problem :D
[23:06] <denise> my brother told me to put that in
[23:06] <denise> ok i can not get java downloaded
[23:07] <NickPresta> denise, have you followed the instructions on !java?
[23:07] <NickPresta> !java > denise
[23:08] <moparisthebest> i think its a pipe |
[23:08] <dwidmann> Keeping in mind that there is also *icedtea* in gutsy, though I've heard it works less than well enough (probably because it's a pitiful hybrid of gcj and java7)
[23:08] <NickPresta> moparisthebest, I told ubotu to /msg denise
[23:08] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: using > makes it a pm instead of a channel message
[23:08] <moparisthebest> ah, thanks :)
[23:08] <NickPresta> :)
[23:09] <denise> when i go to the java site it says i do not have the proper one loaded
[23:09] <NickPresta> denise, which Java site? Did the installation complete and succeed? Did you restart your browser?
[23:09] <fernando__> can some one helpe ... how can i crack wep using ubuntu n what are the commands ...
[23:09] <moparisthebest> denise, possibly because you installed sun-java5 instead of sun-java6
[23:09] <denise> yes about 5 times
[23:10] <Wulong> fernando__: apt-get install aircrack-ng
[23:10] <ScorpKing> denise: try sudo aptitude search java
[23:10] <denise> do i remove java 5
[23:10] <moparisthebest> denise,
[23:10] <NickPresta> fernando__, I would hope "cracking wep" is for educational purposes :)
[23:10] <BluesKaj> denise, are you using the package manager ?
[23:10] <ScorpKing> lol
[23:10] <moparisthebest> sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[23:10] <dwidmann> !info icedtea-java7-plugin
[23:10] <ubotu> icedtea-java7-plugin: Java plugin based on OpenJDK and gcjwebplugin. In component universe, is extra. Version 7~b21-1.4+20071007-0ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 12 kB, installed size 128 kB
[23:10] <fernando__> yes
[23:10] <denise> i did java 5 and 5 on manager
[23:10] <fernando__> it is
[23:11] <moparisthebest> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[23:11] <moparisthebest> run those two commands
[23:11] <denise> 6
[23:11] <Wulong> Is icedtea better? open?
[23:11] <dwidmann> Wulong: it's in main :)
[23:12] <dwidmann> Wulong: it's a temporary fork of openjdk, AFAIK
[23:12] <fernando__> thank you
[23:12] <moparisthebest> ive never heard of it, i wonder if the plugin works with amd64 browsers? :)
[23:12] <Jack_Phoenix> yay :D
[23:13] <Jack_Phoenix> LjL: thanks a lot :)
[23:13] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: it should, but seeing as it's based on gcj also, I've heard it doesn't work too terribly well yet
[23:13] <dwidmann> I could try it now though and let you know what I find out
[23:13] <LjL> Jack_Phoenix: you're welcome, sorry for the hassle.
[23:13] <moparisthebest> dwidmann, im trying it, and anything is better than nothing right? :)
[23:13] <Jack_Phoenix> no problem at all :)
[23:13] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: right
[23:14] <denise> ok should i restart my comp or not
[23:14] <denise> i put the two comands in
[23:14] <moparisthebest> currently I have a 32bit firefox and a 32bit java that I run when I need applets, anything is better than that
[23:14] <moparisthebest> no need to restart denise, not windows anymore :)
[23:15] <BluesKaj> moparisthebest, I'm running amd64 , but use konq broswer and have only encountered probs with sites that are poorly built , but haven't seen any media playback pobbs so far.
[23:15] <moparisthebest> konqueror handles java differently iirc, doesn't use the plugin
[23:15] <BluesKaj> pobbs=probs
[23:16] <moparisthebest> but besides java I have no problems, nspluginwrapper works for flash
[23:16] <moparisthebest> doesn't work here dwidmann, just a white screen
[23:16] <BluesKaj> no it just has be enabled in konq/config
[23:17] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: shame :(
[23:17] <testablu> ci sono italiani?
[23:17] <moparisthebest> but its handled differently, it doesn't use the java plugin BluesKaj
[23:17] <moparisthebest> instead it actually calls 'java'
[23:17] <testablu> italiani?
[23:17] <MasterShrek> !it | testablu
[23:17] <ubotu> testablu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:17] <dwidmann> !it
[23:17] <BluesKaj> actually , that's a good thing moparisthebest , the less java the better :)
[23:18] <dwidmann> bah, I actually like java
[23:18] <moparisthebest> and for some reason it doesn't work on my machine with konq either BluesKaj
[23:18] <ScorpKing> Jack_Phoenix: welcome. ;)
[23:18] <Jack_Phoenix> rar!
[23:18] <moparisthebest> and yea, java is pretty sweet I think :)
[23:18] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, we all have diff tastes ... i bet you use azureus too
[23:18] <drx0drx0>  is copying files from ext3 to a Windows XP Pro share using smb://<ip> via Network Servers reliable?
[23:19] <lovre> is there a calc anywhere in kubuntu?
[23:19] <lovre> lol
[23:19]  * dwidmann doesn't use torrents at all
[23:19] <BluesKaj> sure drx0drx0 , i do it all the time
[23:19] <susana> en español
[23:19] <susana> donde estan
[23:19] <dwidmann> lovre: speedcrunch, katapult, run command
[23:19] <BluesKaj> !es | susana
[23:19] <ubotu> susana: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:20] <moparisthebest> drx0drx0, you can do it easier ways
[23:20] <moparisthebest> ntfs-3g works great from linux
[23:20] <moparisthebest> and there is an ext2 driver for windows as well
[23:20] <lovre> dwidmann: thank you
[23:20] <dwidmann> lovre: you're welcome
[23:20] <mac__> there is no java for 64bit linux right?
[23:21] <moparisthebest> there is mac__
[23:21] <dwidmann> mac__: wrong
[23:21] <moparisthebest> but no java plugin, for browsers
[23:21] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: will be in the java7 release AFAIK
[23:21] <moparisthebest> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_03-b05, mixed mode)
[23:21] <moparisthebest> thats what java -version gets me
[23:21] <moparisthebest> its actually alot faster than other versions too
[23:22] <moparisthebest> supposedly dwidmann , I hope so :)
[23:22] <mac__> will that work with my web browser?
[23:22] <moparisthebest> only if you use konqueror
[23:22] <trappist> mac__: you can get a 64bit java vm, but not a 64bit java plugin.
[23:23] <BluesKaj> drx0drx0, konq and samba work very well together on a network ...just type smb:/ in the addressbar
[23:23] <denise> ok its still not working this is what comes up
[23:23] <denise> Oops! You don't have the recommended Java installed.
[23:23] <denise>   Your Java version is 1.4.2-02. Please click the button below to get the recommended Java for your computer.
[23:23] <moparisthebest> remove it
[23:23] <moparisthebest> im not entirely sure what the package is called
[23:24] <moparisthebest> type java in adept-manager and youll see
[23:24] <mac__> thanks for the info guys - have a good one
[23:24] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: it's called gcj, or at least has that in its name
[23:25] <otto_> hi there, I have a bluetooth question
[23:25] <moparisthebest> yea, somethinig like that
[23:25] <denise> i have java package and java common
[23:25] <moparisthebest> #dentist otto_
[23:25] <moparisthebest> ok, that was a bad joke, carry on
[23:25] <otto_> uhh
[23:25] <otto_> allright!
[23:26] <otto_> when I view my mobile smart phone with bluetooth in konqueror it only shows file transfer en OBEX push (works!)
[23:26] <otto_> but not the other services, i can find with sdptool
[23:27] <denise> and java 6 bin
[23:28] <moparisthebest> denise, remove any package without 'sun-' in front of it
[23:28] <denise> ok
[23:29] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: why not just run sudo update-java-alternatives instead?
[23:29] <moparisthebest> because I didn't know that existed? :)
[23:29] <dwidmann> moparisthebest: you do now
[23:29] <moparisthebest> yup
[23:30] <otto_> do i need a dentist?
[23:30] <denise> ok its done
[23:30] <denise> now what
[23:32] <dwidmann> ack, I'm lagging like five seconds
[23:32] <moparisthebest> denise, start up firefox and see what happens
[23:32] <moparisthebest> otto_, if you have blue teeth you do ;) (sorry, I don't have any experiance with bluetooth)
[23:32] <Rukus-> ok my wireless card is enabled, but i cant find or connect to any netwoprks
[23:33] <Rukus-> i am so confsued
[23:33] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[23:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:33] <otto_> haha, never mind ;)
[23:33] <Rukus-> ya thanks
[23:33] <Rukus-> \i read all that
[23:33] <schiste> hey
[23:34] <schiste> I've juste updated to gutsy
[23:34] <schiste> and till the upgrade
[23:34] <moparisthebest> Rukus-, try Wireless Assistant instead of knetworkmanager
[23:34] <schiste> I don't have any sound
[23:34] <schiste> (neither on amarok/kaffein
[23:34] <schiste> neither onvlc
[23:34] <schiste> it tells me the audio output isbusy
[23:34] <schiste> any idea ?
[23:35] <BluesKaj> schiste,  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[23:35] <Rukus-> ok
[23:35] <dwidmann> Hmm, I wonder if there's any way to get the startup scripts to wait so I can have truecrypt ask me for a password :\
[23:37] <denise> it says i need to install java runtime
[23:38] <Rukus-> weird, knetwork-manager is installed but my system says it is not.
[23:38] <Rukus-> so i tried to install it
[23:38] <Rukus-> error
[23:38] <schiste> Hmmm does it take a so long time normally ?
[23:38] <denise> i looked for java runtime in the adept and I see a bunch whitch one should i dowload
[23:40] <BluesKaj> denise, type about:plugins in the FF addressbar and check if java runtime is listed and enabled
[23:41] <denise> in the termal
[23:41] <denise> or browser
[23:42] <denise> theres a java bin 7
[23:43] <schiste> BluesKaj: ok it's rebooting for 5 minutes :)
[23:43] <schiste> I guess something wrong :)
[23:43] <Avt3kk> hello?
[23:45] <Avt3kk> I have LMCE dvd which is based on kubuntu and I have no desktop because my video card is E Gforce 8800 GTS
[23:45] <Avt3kk> im so close but so far :/
[23:45] <moparisthebest> Avt3kk, ive got the same card, no problems here
[23:45] <Avt3kk> you guys got ideas?
[23:45] <Avt3kk> no desktop
[23:46] <moparisthebest> what do you mean by no desktop?
[23:46] <Avt3kk> how do I start LMCE with E zGforce 8800 GTS
[23:46] <moparisthebest> what is LMCE?
[23:46] <Avt3kk> I didnt add video card its linux media center edtition
[23:46] <Avt3kk> based on kubuntu it has kubuntu desktop
[23:46] <moparisthebest> it should work out of the box
[23:46] <susana> español
[23:46] <Avt3kk> supposed to have which I no have
[23:46] <moparisthebest> look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf Avt3kk
[23:47] <moparisthebest> and change the driver to 'nv'
[23:47] <Avt3kk> I get some funky looking console on the upper left
[23:47] <moparisthebest> then save and restart and see what happens
[23:47] <susana> en español
[23:47] <BluesKaj> Avt3kk,  in the konsole : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:47] <Avt3kk> ook
[23:47]  * artheart sips a large coffee
[23:48] <Avt3kk> just no driver for nvidia
[23:48] <Avt3kk> I turn it on
[23:48] <susana> sala en español
[23:48] <webvictim> !es | susana
[23:48] <ubotu> susana: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:48]  * jameswf uses magicwand to make genii 's coffee irish
[23:48] <webvictim> does anyone know how you change the volume slider that kmilo affects?
[23:48] <Avt3kk> how to start in term?
[23:48] <Avt3kk> in LMCE
[23:49] <genii> jameswf: Aye, and yer a good lad
[23:49] <BluesKaj> we already showed susana that
[23:49] <moparisthebest> how to start the X server Avt3kk ? startx
[23:49] <Avt3kk> oo ty
[23:49] <webvictim> susana: ningun hablas espanol aqui
[23:49] <Rukus-> whats the command to enable wired connections?
[23:49] <Rukus-> i cant find it
[23:49] <webvictim> ifconfig <connection> up?
[23:49] <jameswf> ifup
[23:49] <webvictim> that too
[23:51] <Nuked> hi Im currently testing kde 4, and I noticed there is no "startbar/kicker"
[23:51] <Nuked> is there a package I may have neglected to install or something?
[23:51] <BluesKaj> !kde4
[23:51] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[23:51] <biovore> probably..
[23:52] <BluesKaj> isn't there a kde4 chat ?
[23:52] <Nuked> I was not aware of one BluesKaj
[23:53] <Avt3kk> I started the recovery console and typed startx :D yay now to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <BluesKaj> Nuked, there is but it's not very populated :(
[23:53] <Nuked> and BluesKaj, none of the information ubotu provided is new information
[23:54] <Kernel> anyone here use ivtv-channel.py ...for some reason its not working for me on 7.10
[23:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, Nuked I realize that now , thought it would give you a forum or chat
[23:54] <Nuked> I take it everyone is staying away from kde4 in here
[23:55] <kubuntunewbie> Kde4 is out?
[23:55] <kubuntunewbie> since whne?
[23:55] <dwidmann> Nuked: I probably am until KDE 4.1 is out
[23:55] <Nuked> testing kubuntunewbie
[23:55] <Avt3kk> its installing the kubuntu desktop
[23:55] <BluesKaj> not much luck in my experience , Nuked
[23:55] <Kernel> !ivtv
[23:55] <ubotu> IVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy
[23:55] <Avt3kk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:55] <BluesKaj> yup
[23:56] <Avt3kk> BluesKaj thankyou so much :D
[23:56] <BluesKaj> Avt3kk, i'm surprised it wan't installed
[23:56] <Avt3kk> linux media center edition should be awsome I found a youtube video on it
[23:57] <kubuntunewbie> just out of curiosity... say you called dell and wanted to order a computer. and they were like it will be 899.99 and then you tell them that you dont want winblows on it.  is there a price drop?
[23:57] <Avt3kk> BlueKaj it has the nvidea driver or no?
[23:57] <Avt3kk> it autostarts the orbital thingy
[23:57] <Avt3kk> but with no driver it cant start
[23:57] <BluesKaj> yeah Avt3kk, a little daunting to setup...saw a tutorial on it a while back
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- probably not, because they only sell specific models with Ubuntu on it
[23:57] <Avt3kk> tutorial were?
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> kubuntunewbie- having said that, I bought a 1420N for my girlfriend and installed kubuntu-desktop on it, and she's doing quite well with it so far
[23:58] <dwidmann> www.dell.com/open
[23:58] <Avt3kk> BluesKaj im trying to play it on my flatscreen
[23:58] <Avt3kk> maybe turn this also into a gaming box
[23:59] <Avt3kk> gaming box media center
[23:59] <BluesKaj> Avt3kk, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[23:59] <denise> ok im back