[00:00] <somerville32> What happens when we run out of numbers for launchpad bugs?
[00:08] <LaserJock> I would assume that that would be a long time from now
[00:09] <LaserJock> although they coulds sooner become very annoying
[00:09] <LaserJock> have you seen bug #129501389809403872298904042?
[00:14] <somerville32> Not yet. Is it a toughie?
[04:40] <mae^> is anyone else having a problem with codebrowse.launchpad.net?
[04:41] <somerville32> Someone reported problems earlier
[04:41] <mwhudson> mae^: specifics?
[04:42] <mae^> I'
[04:42] <mae^> I'm not getting any response back
[04:42] <mwhudson> hm
[04:42] <mwhudson> i can't ssh into the server either
[04:42] <mwhudson> oh, i can
[04:42] <mae^> port 80 still is open
[04:43] <mwhudson> but loadavg is 18...
[04:43] <mae^> that'd be it
[04:43] <Odd_Bloke> Heh.
[04:43] <somerville32> Start killing stuff :P
[04:49] <mwhudson> mae^: should be working now
[04:50] <mae^> excellent! thx
[04:51]  * mwhudson goes to bed, grumbling about unreliable software as he goe
[04:51] <mwhudson> s
[05:10]  * Hobbsee wonders why launchpad is even doing ppa stuff at all
[05:10]  * Hobbsee notes that this is contradictory
[05:10] <Hobbsee>  * PPA packages are now overridden to the main component and can be
[05:10] <Hobbsee>    built against all Ubuntu components.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> and it's in the release notes.  yay.
[05:12] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: U m?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: how's it overridden to main, when it builds against all components?
[05:13] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Components no longer exist in PPAs.
[05:13] <Hobbsee> or does it get sent to main, so that the binary and source appear, yet you cant actually rebuild it on a local system, with main only.
[05:13] <Fujitsu> Well, they do, but everything is mainl;
[05:13] <Fujitsu> Does your local system have ogre-model? I doubt it.
[05:14] <Hobbsee> sure it does.  main only pbuilder.  useful for some stuff.
[05:14] <Hobbsee> if i rebuild it in that, ti's likely to fail due to build-deps being not found.  which is kinda misleadng :)
[05:15]  * Hobbsee was expecting them to all get overriden to universe.
[05:16] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: You mean multiverse?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: if we're building against multiverse now, yes.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: or a fancy use/mutation of the 404main script, which will check which the build deps are satisfied in :)
[05:18] <Fujitsu> main is generally the standard component across all Debianish archives.
[05:18] <Fujitsu> Making it the one and only component for PPA makes sense.
[05:18] <Hobbsee> true
[05:18] <Hobbsee> in some sense
[05:19] <Hobbsee> i guess you either completely follow the ogre model, or completely ignore it
[05:19] <Hobbsee> so it either breaks for the uploaders, or those who recieve it, and want to rebuild it, or something
[05:21] <Hobbsee> although, granted, the wish to rebuild is probably less used than to upload, and follow the documentation
[05:25] <ajmitch> people probably assume that that can modify & upload a package without having to munge debian/control
[05:25] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:26] <Hobbsee> similarly, people seem to also think that the packages from ppa also seem to get imported into the ubuntu repository.
[05:26] <LaserJock> really?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> yup
[05:29] <somerville32> Lucky for us, they aren't
[05:29] <Hobbsee> exactly
[07:41] <claud1> could someone take a look to bug #107971
[07:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107971 in gcompris "Incomplete French translation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107971
[07:41] <claud1> and at least raise the importance
[07:42] <LaserJock> claud1: I don't think the relevent people are around yet
[07:42] <LaserJock> but I'm interested in that bug as well
[07:42] <claud1> LaserJock: thanks
[07:42] <claud1> i don't see danilo around :-/
[07:42] <LaserJock> I'm just not sure what the problem is, not being a translator myself
[07:43] <claud1> the problem is that the pot file in Launchpad is not the good one
[07:43] <claud1> but i don't know why
[07:43] <Fujitsu> claud1: carlos and danilos are the two you want to attack, but they're probably at Canonical AllHands.
[07:43] <claud1> Fujitsu: yes, probably
[07:43] <LaserJock> claud1: the uploaded .pot is incorrect?
[07:44] <claud1> the .pot is not uploaded IMHO it is automatically generated
[07:44] <claud1> with intltool
[07:44] <LaserJock> right
[07:44] <LaserJock> I'm just wonder if it's a Launchpad problem or a packaging problem
[07:44] <claud1> i just downloaded the source package
[07:45] <claud1> i'll see if i can see a problem with it
[07:46] <claud1> intltool-update -p
[07:47] <claud1> 0 translated messages, 1186 untranslated messages.
[07:47] <claud1> so the pot generation is OK
[07:47] <claud1> i cannot check further
[07:58] <claud1> LaserJock: please double-check the packaging of gcompris
[07:58] <claud1> in the case the pot file depends on some build time script
[07:58] <claud1> see that with danilo/carlos
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #160412 in soyuz "Please create a morgue/cruft pocket" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160412
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #160430 in launchpad "no way to specify meta-project bug tracker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160430
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #160432 in launchpad "no way to turn off translations for a meta-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160432
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #160439 in soyuz "Some builds fail when they should depwait" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160439
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #160472 in launchpad "404 errors logging into old bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160472
[16:17] <BUGabundo> hya
[16:17] <BUGabundo> just got  error ID         OOPS-675C668
[16:17] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/675C668
[16:17] <BUGabundo> searching for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+search?text=SoftwarePropertiesGtk
[16:18] <BUGabundo> bad ubotu!! that link requires login!
[18:06] <cyberix> Can I somehow see closed bugs I've reported.
[18:07] <somerville32> cyberix, You can
[18:08] <somerville32> If you subscribed yourself
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #160551 in rosetta "downloads of single po files or the whole bundle broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160551
[19:18] <danilos> carlos: hey
[20:30] <danilos> stub: around?
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #155052 in ubuntu "minor language bug in norwegian version of Gutsy kubuntu (dup-of: 133315)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155052
[20:56] <ubotu> New bug: #160603 in launchpad "[edge] List of my bugs have links that return 404" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160603
[21:16] <somerville32> Do we get karma for uploads yet?
[21:34] <salgado> somerville32, not yet
[22:34] <LaserJock> danilos: still around?
[22:36] <somerville32> How can I get involved with launchpad development?
[22:40] <LaserJock> somerville32: you get hired on by Canonical to work on it? :-)
[22:40] <somerville32> No
[22:40] <somerville32> I was told I could sign an NDA
[22:40] <LaserJock> yes, but I'm not sure what the odds of that actually happening are
[22:41] <somerville32> The last time I asked, all I had to say was yes but I opted for the other option - no.
[22:42] <LaserJock> so answer yes this time ;-)
[22:43] <somerville32> lol
[22:45] <carlos> somerville32: you need to talk with kiko, SteveA or Rinchen about it, they are the ones that could provide you with more information
[22:46] <somerville32> Yea. It was Kiko I was talking to last time.
[22:51] <SteveA> somerville32: hello
[22:51] <somerville32> Hiya SteveA :)
[22:51] <SteveA> somerville32: I encourage you to get involved in our documentation efforts and perhaps in our QA work
[22:51] <somerville32> SteveA, I'd like to assist with development.
[22:52] <SteveA> I don't have any process for people to work on Launchpad who aren't at Canonical
[22:52] <SteveA> if you're a really good python programmer with web app and database experience
[22:52] <SteveA> you can talk to me about getting a job here
[22:53] <somerville32> SteveA, Thats something I might be interested in in a about half a year or so. I'll be sure to ping you at that time.
[22:53] <LaserJock> SteveA: you have a specific recommendations for people wanting to help with docs?
[22:54] <SteveA> cool.  if you want advice from some crack python programmers about learning stuff, let me know and I'll put you in touch with people.  (then again, maybe you're a crack python programmer already!)
[22:54] <SteveA> LaserJock: mrevell is starting up a launchpad documentation project
[22:54] <SteveA> LaserJock: so talk with mrevell
[22:54] <LaserJock> SteveA: ah, nice