[00:35] <iecdannyboy> does anyone know how to get a belkin wireless usb to work on ubuntu?
[05:56] <clusty> hey
[05:56] <clusty> is there a hardy iso CD release already?
[05:56] <clusty> could not find any
[05:58] <RAOF> No, I don't believe so.
[05:58] <RAOF> There's still ~7000 packages yet to build from the Debian import, anyway.
[05:58] <clusty> already bored with gutsy :D
[05:58] <clusty> been having it for 2-3 months now
[05:58] <clusty> things work way to well
[05:58] <clusty> :D
[05:59] <lemonade> you can update it to hardy
[05:59] <clusty> hmmm. was considering running it under vmware for a few days
[05:59] <clusty> just to be on the safe side
[06:01] <clusty> so the relevant date in the release schedule is debian import freze?
[06:01] <clusty> when iso shows us?
[06:01] <RAOF> No; there should be daily cds before that.
[06:01] <RAOF> Well before that, really.
[06:02] <clusty> ok. so its gonna happen any day now i guess
[06:02] <clusty> thanks. can't wait to give it a test run
[06:03] <RAOF> There's always sed -i s/gutsy/hardy/ /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[06:03] <clusty> :D
[06:03] <clusty> good old sed
[06:03] <clusty> :D
[06:03] <clusty> i still get heaches when it comes to regexp's
[06:14] <clusty> hmm
[06:14] <clusty> most mirrors don't even have hardy packages
[06:14] <clusty> guess should wait a few more weeks
[06:14] <clusty> and let the dust settle
[06:25] <Hobbsee> RAOF: daily cds are unlikely to build for ages.
[11:22]  * pkern giggles.
[11:22] <pkern> Looking at the topic that is.
[13:14] <pkern> enet:TFTPIP,yaboot is the clue, damn it.
[16:11] <BUGabundo> hya
[16:11] <bazhang> hi
[16:11] <BUGabundo> telf. just a moment
[16:11] <BUGabundo> back, I add hardy reps today
[16:11] <BUGabundo> did a few (really few packages) updates
[16:11] <BUGabundo> found a little prob
[16:11] <BUGabundo> SoftwarePropertiesGtk didn't work! should I report it on LP?
[16:12] <BUGabundo> opening it by synaptic got:
[16:12] <Hobbsee> !doesntwork
[16:12] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[16:12] <BUGabundo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:12] <BUGabundo>   File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 44, in <module>
[16:12] <BUGabundo>     from softwareproperties.gtk.SoftwarePropertiesGtk import SoftwarePropertiesGtk
[16:12] <BUGabundo> ImportError: No module named gtk.SoftwarePropertiesGtk
[16:12] <BUGabundo> (synaptic:29161): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed
[16:12] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[16:12] <BUGabundo>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[16:12] <Hobbsee> !paste
[16:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:12] <Hobbsee> hm, that looks like a bug.  search on LP for it
[16:13] <BUGabundo> sorry ubotu
[16:13] <BUGabundo> will do Hobbsee
[16:13] <bazhang> ubotu is a bot you know?
[16:13] <BUGabundo> nops bazhang
[16:13] <BUGabundo> first time here!
[16:13] <BUGabundo> is it safe to add X7.4 ?
[16:13] <bazhang> wow that was weird--he just PM'ed me!
[16:14] <BUGabundo> did I?
[16:14] <BUGabundo> lo
[16:14] <BUGabundo> *lol
[16:14] <bazhang> I mean the b o t :}
[16:14] <BUGabundo> ahh
[16:14] <BUGabundo> sorry
[16:14] <BUGabundo> thought you were refering to me in the 3th person
[16:14] <BUGabundo> let me look on LP
[16:16] <BUGabundo> didn't get an answer
[16:16] <BUGabundo> is it safe to try X7.4?
[16:17] <BUGabundo>  error ID         OOPS-675C668 on LP!! humm let me ping #LP
[16:17] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/675C668
[16:17] <BUGabundo> uuuhhh nice bot!!! lol
[16:17] <BUGabundo> thank you ubotu
[16:17] <Laser87> Hi!
[16:19] <bazhang> hi
[16:27] <Raul> Hi, need help with doom for linux, install OK, main menu OK, New Game= white and centered border rectangle appears in screen, mouse and console still working...
[16:27] <hydrogen> wrong channel.
[16:27] <bazhang> Raul: you want to join #ubuntu
[16:30] <Raul> sorry, leaving..
[16:45] <jandem> what's the relation between uploads and builds?
[16:47] <jandem> are packages in the upload queue uploaded already?
[16:51] <Hobbsee> depends how you define upload queue?
[16:53] <jandem> Hobbsee: i mean the packages here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?start=20
[16:54] <Hobbsee> jandem: that's the new queue, so all of that will go thru a manual check before it gets let into the archive.
[16:55] <jandem> Hobbsee: thanks, i was wondering because i couldn't find the packages there on the 'builds' page
[16:55] <Hobbsee> yup.  they're not there
[16:55] <jandem> so there are much more packages to be build :p
[16:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, quite likely :)
[18:16] <IndyGunFreak> has hardy been made for public download yet?
[18:16] <Pici> /topic
[18:18] <shadeofgrey> IndyGunFreak; its still in development dude.  the definitive answer is - even if you DO find a build of it chances are it'll screw your system stability
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> shadeofgrey: thats kinda what i figured
[18:19] <shadeofgrey> final build isnt due till april which means they just started on it
[18:19] <shadeofgrey> why isnt 7.10 goood enough for you?
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> no i love 7.10... i just like to try the betas
[18:20] <rsk> it isn't beta yet
[18:20] <shadeofgrey> theres no heron betas at  all yet
[18:20] <IndyGunFreak> ok, that was my question.
[18:20] <shadeofgrey> i doubt there re even alphas
[18:20] <Laser87> beta is far away - it's still pre-alpha
[18:20] <IndyGunFreak> well, beta, alpha, whatever.
[18:20] <shadeofgrey> theres a huge difference
[18:20] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't suggest there wasn't
[18:21] <shadeofgrey> beta means its got portions that are done but havent been debugged
[18:21] <Pici> I think he knows what beta is.
[18:21] <Laser87> Gutsy Gibbon made no probs for me from alpha1 to final - but that has been just luck
[18:21] <shadeofgrey> alphas are pieces that dont necessarily even boot
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> i'm well aware of what a beta is.
[18:21] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: The repos are open, but ymmv when running it.
[18:22] <IndyGunFreak> Pici: ya, i'm not gonna mess with it just yet, iv'e got a system i can test it on..
[18:22] <shadeofgrey>  ymmv?
[18:22] <Pici> !ymmv
[18:22] <ubotu> ymmv is short for "Your mileage may vary". It means that someone else's experience with compatibility, performance etc. may not necessarily match yours.
[18:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol, he wants to teach me what a beta/alpha is, and doesn't know what ymmv means?..lol
[18:26]  * Pici shrugs