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lifelesswow quiet day03:59
beunowe're all coding away before 1.0 closes  ;)04:00
PengI'm pinging out. :)04:08
lifeless;)04:08
lifelessPeng: thanks for your patch to the docs; it's been merged I believe.04:17
Peng_Lagggg.04:23
Peng_lifeless: :)04:23
Peng_34.7s!04:23
lifelessPeng_: :)04:24
lifelessPeng_: did you see what I said ?04:24
Peng_"thanks for your patch ...", yes.04:24
Peng_Nothing after that.04:24
lifelessthat was all04:25
Peng__Jesus!04:31
PengSighhh.04:42
lifelesslagathon?04:43
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datoabentley: yeah, thanks09:48
AfCHow come `bzr gdiff` doesn't work if multiple files are given as arguments?11:47
jelmerAfC, simply hasn't been implemented yet11:49
AfCjelmer: k11:49
AfCjelmer: do you need a bug for that?11:49
jelmerAfC: please11:50
AfCFine.11:50
AfCI've actually been meaning to try and get into the gdiff code11:50
AfCI'm not much for pygtk, but there are a couple of behaviours I want to recommend changing11:50
AfC[*every* single time I run it I a) maximize, then b) drag the Paned divider to give it enough room to show me the file names, then c) move from "combined" to first file.]11:52
AfC[getting a bit tedious]11:52
jelmerthere has been some talk about what to do with the diff window12:03
jelmerperhaps we could call out to meld or something like that12:03
AfCjelmer: (meld?)12:03
jelmermeld.sf.net12:04
AfCI came across some neat code in devhelp relating to remembering previous maximized-or-not state and acting accordingly to restore it on new instantiation. It's pretty good when done right.12:04
lifelessmoin12:13
lifelessmoin12:27
mwhudsonallegedly12:31
sverrejUsing bzr-svn, is it possible to commit locally and then push the commits together to subversion later?13:01
sverrejbzr commit in a bzr-svn branch always commits directly to the svn server.13:02
luksnot if you use 'bzr branch' instead of 'bzr checkout'13:03
luksyou can either unbind the checkout or use commit --local13:03
sverrejI tried commit local, but it told me "bzr: ERROR: Cannot perform local-only commits on unbound branches."13:04
sverrejbut I can try to unbind13:04
sverrejor check out again13:04
sverrejthanks!13:04
lifelesssverrej: it's a double negative - thats already unbound13:05
mneisenOne question about the new knitpack format: is it possible to automatically delete the obsolete packs in obsolete_packs, or is it even possible to stop bzr putting obsolete packs in there at all?13:05
lifelessmneisen: they should auto delete; I thought I had merged that13:05
lifelessI'll check13:05
mneisenlifeless: I just did a small benchmark with the new format, and i ended up with about 60 megs of files in obsolete_files.13:06
mneisenlifeless: I use the 0.92rc1 version of bzr.13:06
EnquestI did a "rm foo.css" how can I bring a file back ... With svn I only needed to do "svn update"13:06
lifelessmneisen: it's not merged sorry; I have a patch to clean it up though13:06
lifelessEnquest: bzr revert foo.css13:06
mneisenlifeless: great news. Hope to see it soon in the released packages ... :-D13:07
lifelessmneisen: it'll be in 0.93/bzr.dev later today; it's unlikel to be cherry picked into 0.9213:07
mneisenOK. Thanks anyway ...13:07
mneisenlifeless: Do you know by any chance when bzr-gtk will be up to speed, i.e. when bzr-gtk can be used with up-to-date bzr packages?13:08
lifelessyou can rm the contents of that dir safely13:08
lifelesswe use it to make operations wit flakey networks safer13:08
mneisenlifeless:OK, will use rm.13:08
lifelessjust leave the dir itself around13:08
mneisenlifeless: Anything about bzr-gtk (see above)?13:15
lifelessit's just been released today13:16
lifelessso 24 hours probably13:16
mneisenlifeless: oic, didn't know that it was released today.13:19
mneisenThanks!13:19
datolifeless: "strict arch limits" (I'm unfamiliar with PAA)15:44
datoer, PPA (see? :)15:45
siretartdato: it builds for i386, amd64 and lpia only (well, anything xen supports)15:45
datooh, and bazaar-vcs.org has ppc?15:45
lifelesshope to soon; need to hook it up15:47
siretartcurrently amd64 and i386 only15:47
siretartand I doubt that we'd have a lot of lpia users15:48
lifelessalso I'd like to get rpm's up15:48
siretartlifeless: aren't there any plans to offer PPAs for debian chroots as well? (no idea about that)15:48
datowhy are debian packages on bazaar-vcs.org anyway?15:49
datosid is covered, lenny as usual, and I normally upload backports.15:49
siretartthey used to be undermaintained in the past?15:49
datoplus lifeless could do any of those uploads if/when necessary.15:49
siretartoh, I forgot backports. thanks dato!15:49
dato(and backports is autobuilt these days)15:50
lifelessdato: debian waits for releases15:50
lifelessbazaar-vcs.org uploads beta's15:50
datolifeless: rc15:50
datosid gets rcs15:50
datoand lenny, they'd migrate if there was time :)15:51
lifelessIt didn't in the past;15:51
datoyeah, I'm just talking about the present15:51
siretartlifeless: we do since the pkg-bazaar team got into shape15:51
lifelessbut more importantly, when debian next starts to release it will probably stop taking bzr versions15:51
lifelesswhen the UVF kicks in.15:51
lifelessIt's true that this may be next decade :)15:51
siretartthere is backports.org for stable and oldstable15:52
dato(I'm personally not uploading for oldstable atm)15:52
lifelesssiretart: and it's great the team is in shape - I'm in it too :)15:53
datolifeless: anyway, I'm not unhappy in any way, just wondering.15:53
lifelessthe basic thing is that the bazaar-vcs.org is geared around bzr's release cycle; even sid is geared around debians release ccle, so we need something for bzr enthusiasts during debian stabilisation.15:53
lifeless(this is why we have ubuntu debs too)15:54
lifelessthe ubuntu one is much more visible because its 6 monthly15:54
lifelessI'd also like to get daily builds up; its on my todo15:58
lifelesswe had them for baz and users lovd them15:58
patterni'd like to put keep some of my system configuration files in /etc under revision control... so should i do something like "mkdir /etc/bzr ; cd /etc/bzr ; bzr init ; cd /etc"  ?16:18
patternand then, how would i add, say, /etc/make.conf to my new /etc/bzr repository?16:19
patternoops16:19
patternoh, that's right... i thought i mistyped that question16:19
patternbut it's typed correctly :)16:19
patternor maybe i should just "cd /etc ; bzr init" and then just "bzr add make.conf" from /etc itself ?16:21
lifelessstatik: where are you ?16:31
nevanspattern: I simply put my entire /etc dir into bzr.16:47
nevanscd /etc; sudo bzr init; sudo bzr add; sudo bzr commit -m "version controlled /etc"16:48
Le-Chuck_ITAhi there, I am using bzr-gtk found in ubuntu gutsy16:55
Le-Chuck_ITAand olive does not seem to correctly recognize bzr branches on my disk16:56
Le-Chuck_ITAit only shows the directories and not the files, and offers disabled menu entries for handling the branch16:56
Le-Chuck_ITAhow do I open a branch with olive? And how do I bookmark it?16:58
Le-Chuck_ITAit's such a simple program that you easily exhaust all the possible operations :)16:58
patternnevans: nice :)17:29
patternthe only thing is that with gentoo, there's a lot of automatic messing with files in /etc17:29
patternso i don't want to keep having to commit a ton of changes by hand17:29
patternthere are handful of files that i edit manually, and those are the ones i really want to keep under bzr's version control17:30
patternanyway, the stuff that gentoo messes with itself are automatically kept under RCS version control via dispatch.conf17:30
bialixluks: hi17:40
lukshi17:40
bialixI fixed problem with lock and pack repo in my branch17:40
bialixI just wonder: when you're planning to release QBzr 0.7.0?17:41
lukshmm, I guess I could do it over the weekend17:42
bialixit will be great17:42
nevanspattern: I just do the whole /etc directory because it's easier.  simply "sudo bzr add; sudo bzr commit", and you're done.  I don't mind that I'm versioning a few extra things that I don't care as much about.17:42
patternit's going to be a ton of extra things for me17:44
patternon the other hand, when i do a "bzr status", it lists a ton of "unknown" files and directories17:44
nevansyeah, that's the other reason I do the whole thing... then I know when anything in there changes.17:45
bialixluks: do you still prefer to file wishes to QBzr in bug tracker?17:45
fullermdpattern: I version just a few files out of /etc (and /usr/local/etc, and similar places).  I just have '*' in .bzrignore, and manually add the bits I care about.17:45
nevansfullermd: that makes sense... that's what I do in my home directory.17:45
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luksbialix, yes, since otherwise it's very easy to forget them17:46
nevanserr... the home directory itself ignores .*  ...some of the subdirectories ignore *17:46
nevans(although... my home directory is actually still using svn, not bzr... and ignores behave a little bit differently in svn)17:47
patternahh... ".bzrignore" ... i should look in to that :)17:47
bialixluks: ok, because I have 2 new items to wishlist: search in qlog and working with tags in qlog window17:47
lukssearch in qlog was on my unwritten todo list already17:47
luksbut please add it anyway17:48
luksit's better to have all ideas on one place17:48
bialixcan we collaborate on search feature sometime?17:48
luksI haven't touched the code for a while, so I'm not sure when I'll have time and motivation to work on it17:49
bialixok17:49
luksI usually add new features only when something really annoys me or I'm really bored :)17:50
bialixme usually too17:50
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Jamonis there a way to uncommit a specific commit out of order?18:54
Jamonperhaps undo changes is a better way of saying it18:54
lifelessnot really; there is a way to merge it out - to reverse it. But it is part of the written history so it can't be removed without rbeaking referntial integrity18:54
lifelessso - 'bzr merge -r234..233 .'18:55
lifelessthat will remove commit 234 for you18:55
lifeless(you need to commit after that naturally)18:55
Jamoni made a commit that changed mysql functions to pgsql, now later on i just want to switch back to mysql... so bzr merge -r will allow me to do that?18:56
lifelessyes19:03
Jamonwhats the diff between that and revert?19:04
lifelessrevert undoes all changes to the selected paths from the revision forward19:04
lifelessspiv: reconcile on launchpad is up to 4.5Gb and no progress marker yet19:05
Jamonso revert is full sequential, and merge is from points out of sequence19:06
lifelessyes19:07
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dodijkHello! Does anybody have any experience with using bazaar on a branch on a hfsplus filesystem? I get permission errors (on .bzr/branch-format) when trying to add files. Moving the branch to ext3 fixes this...21:52
datododijk: maybe jam-laptop knows about that, but he doesn't seem to be around right now22:04
dodijkdata: ok, i'll try again some other time22:06
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nirIs there a shortcut to create a new branch WITH the current changes in the tree?23:28
beunonir, uncommited ones?23:29
niryea23:33
beunonir, I don't think you can do that with bzr, no. As far as I can tell, bzr brings in the repository and restores the working tree from it23:34
beunorsync would work though23:34
fullermdbranch ; merge --uncommitted23:34
beunoah, there you go23:34
beunoI learn new things here everyday...23:35
nirgreat23:35
niralthough branch --uncommitted would be even nicer23:35
beunonir, you can file a bug requesting it. Unless fullermd has a good reason why not to have it23:37
nirits a feature request, not a bug23:38
beunonir, right, it would be wishlist, I don't believe there is something specific for feature requests in Launchpad23:40
beunoblueprints seem like and overkill, and I believe they don't have "states" so you would know when it gets implemented23:40

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