[01:48] How do I see what's causing Error: "Unsupported operation" while copying "/etc/xen/auto/sql". Would you like to continue?" [04:51] well it's been a big pain in the butt and i've gotten nowhere [04:52] amirman: ? [04:53] LaserJock: are you not supposed to be finishing your PHD? [04:54] Burgundavia: umm, yeah [04:54] indeed [04:55] its confusing [04:55] amirman: what is confusing? [04:55] i dont have a linux boot disk right now because the only computer i have with a cdrom drive and a floppy drive is the one i'm trying to install an OS on [04:56] so i've been using a win95 bootdisk that i had here because it loads the drivers for my cdrom drive and it gets my hard drive to work [04:56] but when i try to format the harddisk it wont do it [04:57] when i try to install the smart boot manager to a floppy to make a boot disk i cant do it because the command.com file thats needed to copy the files is on the disk in the drive that i need to copy to [04:57] its complicated as hell [04:57] i have no idea what to do [04:57] why are you trying to do anything with ubuntu and a dos boot floppy? [04:58] when i set the BIOS to boot to the cdrom drive it wont read it but the win95 boot disk sees it [04:58] and when i try to run some programs it says theres not enough memory to run it [05:00] are you saying sbm doesnt start? [05:01] i cant even make an sbm disk [05:01] why cant you make one? [05:02] because the command.com file which is needed to copy files from the cd to the floppy drive is on the floppy drive [05:02] not sure i follow... why do you need command.com to make an sbm floppy [05:03] i haven't tried installing the sbm to the hard drive yet though [05:03] i'm going to try it i'll be right back [05:03] i dont know why i need it [05:03] but it says i do [05:03] you dont install sbm (well, not in my experiance) [05:03] you image it onto a floppy disc [05:03] what instructiosn have you been following? [05:03] if i change disks it asks to be directed to command.com and i can't exit out of it all i can do is restart [05:04] well the instructions i read talked about images but when i went to the sourceforge page to get the latest versions image all that was there was a self extracting exe [05:04] sbminst.exe [05:05] isnt sbm still on the ubuntu cd? [05:06] before i continue - whats the specification of the system your trying to intall on by the way, it sounds... old [05:12] it is very old [05:12] 256 mb ram 400 mhz processor [05:12] 80 gb [05:13] i installed sbm to the harddrive, but now i have to figure out what i'm doing in there [05:14] cpu is a bit slow, but thats an ok system. [05:15] amirman: what CD did you download? [05:17] i have the edubuntu server cd [05:17] and the addon [05:17] which selection should i choose [05:17] the regular install or a workstation [05:17] probably a workstation right? [05:17] workstation [05:18] the cpu is slow but i was advised that i could install a lighter window manager or something like that [05:22] i've run into trouble detecting a network interface [05:23] hopefully i wont need it [05:23] what chipset is the nic? [05:24] i don't know what that means [05:24] <----newbie [05:24] nm [05:24] :( [05:25] nic=network interface card? [05:25] yeah :) [05:25] well it's an airlink and it's wireless [05:25] thats all i know about it [05:28] i told it that my system clock is not set to UTC [05:29] because my bios thinks is 1980 sometimes and 1999 sometimes [05:29] was that the right thing to do? [05:29] when i was in sbm i used the thing thats supposed to fix the bios date but when i started installing it said something about how my bios was set at 1999 [05:30] this is installing a lot faster than i expected it to [05:35] if your not dual booting set to UTC [05:35] it probably reverts to 1980 if your cmos battery goes flat [05:35] "debootstrap warning" [05:36] failure while installing base packages [05:37] i attempted it 5 times then skipped it [05:37] ooooh errors [05:37] yeah, debootstrap errors=bad [05:38] black stripes going up and down the screen behind the stripes there is a white box with some black squares on it and a red square at the bottom [05:38] and a blue background [05:38] now i cant read anything [05:39] i started at the first step of the installation and i'm just going to keep pressing enter [05:40] hmm looks like i'm just going to have to install freeDOS [05:40] if it works [05:40] hah :) [05:42] :( [05:43] what's acpi? [05:43] :( [05:43] advanced control and power interface [05:45] well something came up about it being forced or something because the year on the bios was before 2000 [05:45] very confusing [05:45] i'm retrying the installation [05:46] i've seen that message before, dont remember the details [05:46] whats the debbootstrap stuff all about? [05:49] its the tool the installer uses to setup the OS [05:49] also which partitioning method should i choose? i chose "guided - use entire disk" last time, and what is LVM? [05:49] guided is fine. [05:49] !lvm [05:49] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO [05:50] not for beiners, imo ;) [05:52] logical volume management.... is that like a drive where you can resize the partitions whenever you want? [05:53] just a guess [05:53] yep [05:53] cool [05:55] i'm picking the same one [05:55] use entire disk [05:55] i wish i could make the swap partition bigger [05:56] i have a feeling the installation is messing up because the ram and swap partition are overloaded [05:56] i would be willing to dedicate about 10 gigs to the swap haha [06:02] does anybody in here know a very lightwieght linux distro or any OS i could use that is kid-friendly (if i can't get edubuntu installed of course) [06:04] * Bambi_BOFH shrugs. dont have much experiance [06:04] in that area [06:04] this is totally failing here [06:07] its asking me if i want to continue without installing a kernel [06:08] it says i could end up with a machine that doesnt boot [06:08] that sounds really bad [06:08] unless they just mean the hard disk doesnt boot because i've been dealing with that already [06:09] no, it wont boot at all [06:09] sorry i cant help much - im at work ;| [06:10] understandable [06:17] YY [07:48] * Netham45 is off to bed [10:41] hi there... I-m trying to debug local device support on ubuntu gutsy... [10:42] Im following the document scott belnaeves (sp) wrote and get to the last step where it says to manually try mounting the device in question in this case a usb thumbdrive [10:43] I get X connection to localhost:10.0 broken [10:43] explicit kill or server shutdown [10:45] then /tmp/.sysadmin-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted [10:46] anyone... [10:56] ok, I tried that from the alt cntrl f1 but obviously it needs to be done from the thin terminal itself [10:56] so I did that [10:57] and still get /tmp/.sysadmin-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted, even though that directory exists [10:57] and I can see a directory for the usb stick too [14:23] Ogra_cmpc you there? [14:24] is sbalneaves around? [14:54] Heya [15:46] hi everyone [15:47] i have a question [15:47] i am afraid of lack of space on my hdd [15:47] only 3.2 GB [15:47] if I connect another one does edubuntu know to write on this additional? [15:52] should I be afraid of system crash when there will be lack of phisical memory on hdd? [15:57] i'm trying to figure out why flash drives are not working. I found this comment "One of the most common reasons for USB storage devices not to work is the user needs to be in the fuse group." how can i make sure that all users get added to this? our users log in with active directory authentication. (v7.04) [17:16] i'm trying to figure out why flash drives are not working. I found this comment "One of the most common reasons for USB storage devices not to work is the user needs to be in the fuse group." how can i make sure that all users get added to this? our users log in with active directory authentication. (v7.04) [18:06] so i check marked the prerelease updates on my edubuntu server and now have xfce instead of gnome. should xfce run better on thin clients then gnome? === juliux_ is now known as juliux [18:41] there an error occurs during download [18:41] something with pci [18:41] how can I do bootload clean? [18:44] so quiet here [19:51] So anyone awake in here? [19:57] ping highvoltage [20:16] hello out there? [20:17] 'lo bazz [20:17] ahh there is life out there.... [20:18] Doesnt seem to be to much action in here [20:19] most people in here developers? users? [21:02] bazz, bit of both [21:05] bazz, we had our semi annual developer conference last week and this week we have the canonical company get together ... so everyone is travelling or recovering from jetlag [21:10] I bet its fun..... [21:11] Well I think I would think its fun === sladen_ is now known as sladen