[01:48] <smile> How do I see what's causing Error:  "Unsupported operation" while copying "/etc/xen/auto/sql". Would you like to continue?"
[04:51] <amirman> well it's been a big pain in the butt and i've gotten nowhere
[04:52] <LaserJock> amirman: ?
[04:53] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: are you not supposed to be finishing your PHD?
[04:54] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: umm, yeah
[04:54] <Burgundavia> indeed
[04:55] <amirman> its confusing
[04:55] <Burgundavia> amirman: what is confusing?
[04:55] <amirman> i dont have a linux boot disk right now because the only computer i have with a cdrom drive and a floppy drive is the one i'm trying to install an OS on
[04:56] <amirman> so i've been using a win95 bootdisk that i had here because it loads the drivers for my cdrom drive and it gets my hard drive to work
[04:56] <amirman> but when i try to format the harddisk it wont do it
[04:57] <amirman> when i try to install the smart boot manager to a floppy to make a boot disk i cant do it because the command.com file thats needed to copy the files is on the disk in the drive that i need to copy to
[04:57] <amirman> its complicated as hell
[04:57] <amirman> i have no idea what to do
[04:57] <Bambi_BOFH> why are you trying to do anything with ubuntu and a dos boot floppy?
[04:58] <amirman> when i set the BIOS to boot to the cdrom drive it wont read it but the win95 boot disk sees it
[04:58] <amirman> and when i try to run some programs it says theres not enough memory to run it
[05:00] <Bambi_BOFH> are you saying sbm doesnt start?
[05:01] <amirman> i cant even make an sbm disk
[05:01] <Bambi_BOFH> why cant you make one?
[05:02] <amirman> because the command.com file which is needed to copy files from the cd to the floppy drive is on the floppy drive
[05:02] <Bambi_BOFH> not sure i follow... why do you need command.com to make an sbm floppy
[05:03] <amirman> i haven't tried installing the sbm to the hard drive yet though
[05:03] <amirman> i'm going to try it i'll be right back
[05:03] <amirman> i dont know why i need it
[05:03] <amirman> but it says i do
[05:03] <Bambi_BOFH> you dont install sbm (well, not in my experiance)
[05:03] <Bambi_BOFH> you image it onto a floppy disc
[05:03] <Bambi_BOFH> what instructiosn have you been following?
[05:03] <amirman> if i change disks it asks to be directed to command.com and i can't exit out of it all i can do is restart
[05:04] <amirman> well the instructions i read talked about images but when i went to the sourceforge page to get the latest versions image all that was there was a self extracting exe
[05:04] <amirman> sbminst.exe
[05:05] <Bambi_BOFH> isnt sbm still on the ubuntu cd?
[05:06] <Bambi_BOFH> before i continue - whats the specification of the system your trying to intall on by the way, it sounds... old
[05:12] <amirman> it is very old
[05:12] <amirman> 256 mb ram 400 mhz processor
[05:12] <amirman> 80 gb
[05:13] <amirman> i installed sbm to the harddrive, but now i have to figure out what i'm doing in there
[05:14] <Bambi_BOFH> cpu is a bit slow, but thats an ok system.
[05:15] <LaserJock> amirman: what CD did you download?
[05:17] <amirman> i have the edubuntu server cd
[05:17] <amirman> and the addon
[05:17] <amirman> which selection should i choose
[05:17] <amirman> the regular install or a workstation
[05:17] <amirman> probably a workstation right?
[05:17] <LaserJock> workstation
[05:18] <amirman> the cpu is slow but i was advised that i could install a lighter window manager or something like that
[05:22] <amirman> i've run into trouble detecting a network interface
[05:23] <amirman> hopefully i wont need it
[05:23] <Bambi_BOFH> what chipset is the nic?
[05:24] <amirman> i don't know what that means
[05:24] <amirman> <----newbie
[05:24] <Bambi_BOFH> nm
[05:24] <amirman> :(
[05:25] <amirman> nic=network interface card?
[05:25] <Bambi_BOFH> yeah :)
[05:25] <amirman> well it's an airlink and it's wireless
[05:25] <amirman> thats all i know about it
[05:28] <amirman> i told it that my system clock is not set to UTC
[05:29] <amirman> because my bios thinks is 1980 sometimes and 1999 sometimes
[05:29] <amirman> was that the right thing to do?
[05:29] <amirman> when i was in sbm i used the thing thats supposed to fix the bios date but when i started installing it said something about how my bios was set at 1999
[05:30] <amirman> this is installing a lot faster than i expected it to
[05:35] <Bambi_BOFH> if your not dual booting set to UTC
[05:35] <Bambi_BOFH> it probably reverts to 1980 if your cmos battery goes flat
[05:35] <amirman> "debootstrap warning"
[05:36] <amirman> failure while installing base packages
[05:37] <amirman> i attempted it 5 times then skipped it
[05:37] <amirman> ooooh errors
[05:37] <Bambi_BOFH> yeah, debootstrap errors=bad
[05:38] <amirman> black stripes going up and down the screen behind the stripes there is a white box with some black squares on it and a red square at the bottom
[05:38] <amirman> and a blue background
[05:38] <amirman> now i cant read anything
[05:39] <amirman> i started at the first step of the installation and i'm just going to keep pressing enter
[05:40] <amirman> hmm looks like i'm just going to have to install freeDOS
[05:40] <amirman> if it works
[05:40] <amirman> hah :)
[05:42] <amirman> :(
[05:43] <amirman> what's acpi?
[05:43] <Bambi_BOFH> :(
[05:43] <Bambi_BOFH> advanced control and power interface
[05:45] <amirman> well something came up about it being forced or something because the year on the bios was before 2000
[05:45] <amirman> very confusing
[05:45] <amirman> i'm retrying the installation
[05:46] <Bambi_BOFH> i've seen that message before, dont remember the details
[05:46] <amirman> whats the debbootstrap stuff all about?
[05:49] <Bambi_BOFH> its the tool the installer uses to setup the OS
[05:49] <amirman> also which partitioning method should i choose? i chose "guided - use entire disk" last time, and what is LVM?
[05:49] <Bambi_BOFH> guided is fine.
[05:49] <Bambi_BOFH> !lvm
[05:49] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:50] <Bambi_BOFH> not for beiners, imo ;)
[05:52] <amirman> logical volume management.... is that like a drive where you can resize the partitions whenever you want?
[05:53] <amirman> just a guess
[05:53] <Bambi_BOFH> yep
[05:53] <amirman> cool
[05:55] <amirman> i'm picking the same one
[05:55] <amirman> use entire disk
[05:55] <amirman> i wish i could make the swap partition bigger
[05:56] <amirman> i have a feeling the installation is messing up because the ram and swap partition are overloaded
[05:56] <amirman> i would be willing to dedicate about 10 gigs to the swap haha
[06:02] <amirman> does anybody in here know a very lightwieght linux distro or any OS i could use that is kid-friendly (if i can't get edubuntu installed of course)
[06:04]  * Bambi_BOFH shrugs. dont have much experiance
[06:04] <Bambi_BOFH> in that area
[06:04] <amirman> this is totally failing here
[06:07] <amirman> its asking me if i want to continue without installing a kernel
[06:08] <amirman> it says i could end up with a machine that doesnt boot
[06:08] <amirman> that sounds really bad
[06:08] <amirman> unless they just mean the hard disk doesnt boot because i've been dealing with that already
[06:09] <Bambi_BOFH> no, it wont boot at all
[06:09] <Bambi_BOFH> sorry i cant help much - im at work ;|
[06:10] <amirman> understandable
[06:17] <mcdeaglesandwhic> YY
[07:48]  * Netham45 is off to bed
[10:41] <Nubae> hi there... I-m trying to debug local device support on ubuntu gutsy...
[10:42] <Nubae> Im following the document scott belnaeves (sp) wrote and get to the last step where it says to manually try mounting the device in question in this case a usb thumbdrive
[10:43] <Nubae> I get X connection to localhost:10.0 broken
[10:43] <Nubae> explicit kill or server shutdown
[10:45] <Nubae> then /tmp/.sysadmin-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted
[10:46] <Nubae> anyone...
[10:56] <Nubae> ok, I tried that from the alt cntrl f1 but obviously it needs to be done from the thin terminal itself
[10:56] <Nubae> so I did that
[10:57] <Nubae> and still get /tmp/.sysadmin-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted, even though that directory exists
[10:57] <Nubae> and I can see a directory for the usb stick too
[14:23] <bazz> Ogra_cmpc you there?
[14:24] <nubae> is sbalneaves around?
[14:54] <bddebian> Heya
[15:46] <groovedreamer> hi everyone
[15:47] <groovedreamer> i have a question
[15:47] <groovedreamer> i am afraid of lack of space on my hdd
[15:47] <groovedreamer> only 3.2 GB
[15:47] <groovedreamer> if I connect another one does edubuntu know to write on this additional?
[15:52] <groovedreamer> should I be afraid of system crash when there will be lack of phisical memory on hdd?
[15:57] <musashi> i'm trying to figure out why flash drives are not working. I found this comment "One of the most common reasons for USB storage devices not to work is the user needs to be in the fuse group." how can i make sure that all users get added to this? our users log in with active directory authentication. (v7.04)
[17:16] <musashi> i'm trying to figure out why flash drives are not working. I found this comment "One of the most common reasons for USB storage devices not to work is the user needs to be in the fuse group." how can i make sure that all users get added to this? our users log in with active directory authentication. (v7.04)
[18:06] <scrapbunny> so i check marked the prerelease updates on my edubuntu server and now have xfce instead of gnome. should xfce run better on thin clients then gnome?
[18:41] <groovedreamer> there an error occurs during download
[18:41] <groovedreamer> something with pci
[18:41] <groovedreamer> how can I do bootload clean?
[18:44] <groovedreamer> so quiet here
[19:51] <bazz> So anyone awake in here?
[19:57] <RichEd> ping highvoltage
[20:16] <bazz> hello out there?
[20:17] <RichEd> 'lo bazz
[20:17] <bazz> ahh there is life out there....
[20:18] <bazz> Doesnt seem to be to much action in here
[20:19] <bazz> most people in here developers? users?
[21:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> bazz, bit of both
[21:05] <ogra> bazz, we had our semi annual developer conference last week and this week we have the canonical company get together ... so everyone is travelling or recovering from jetlag
[21:10] <bazz> I bet its fun.....
[21:11] <bazz> Well I think I would think its fun