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deniseim trying to get yahoo games running00:00
schisteis there any easy way to reset the computer (like reinstallation)00:00
MasterShrekschiste, put the cd in and reinstall00:00
schiste(without cd)00:00
schiste;)00:00
deniseithe browser says install plugins00:00
_Angelus_someone explain me this error please00:00
_Angelus_plugins/libgpuPeopsSoftX.so.1.0.15: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6400:00
schisteMasterShrek: as I said above, without cd00:00
denisewhen i go to install plugins it says install manuly00:01
denisethen it takes me to the java site00:01
Nukedjeez this kde4 is sluggish...00:01
* webvictim repeats "beta" over and over :)00:01
Nukedwebvictim: thanks I am aware of that00:02
boohey, ive been having some issuse with skye... my aoudio playback always working but the mic dose sometimes and not other,,, any one have any ideas?00:02
boo*skype00:02
webvictimgood stuff. your comments looked like you weren't ;)00:02
* jameswf asks doesn't beta mean install on everything and be the first on your block....00:02
MementoMoriboo: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?00:02
Nukedperhaps it would be better if people didnt assume things00:02
denisecan anyone help with installing java00:03
bookubuntu00:03
Nukedjameswf: no it means seeing where the bugs lie, and furthermore whether or not Its worth installing later00:03
snowdonkeydenise: you can install the java plugin using adept00:03
MementoMoriboo: try in a konsole00:03
snowdonkeydenise: the package is called sun-java6-plugin00:03
denisebut there is so many00:03
deniseok00:03
MementoMoriboo: artsdsp -m skype00:03
denisei will try that theres also a sun java 700:04
MementoMoriand try the echo123 service00:04
jameswfautomatix... compatibility without thought (unless it breaks stuff)00:04
dwidmann_Angelus_: means a 32-bitg app is trying to load a 64-bit library00:04
boook, one sec00:04
biovore!automatix00:04
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »00:04
boonothing...00:04
susanala sala en español00:05
MinatakuAFAIK, the latest Skype has ALSA support00:05
MementoMori!es00:05
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:05
_Angelus_dwidmann:  how can i prevent that?00:05
MementoMori!es | susana00:05
ubotususana: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.00:06
MementoMoriok ;)00:06
schisteis there any easy way to reset the computer (like reinstallation) without cd ?00:06
MementoMoriboo: no sound or mic?00:06
boosound is find... he mic wont work00:06
boo*fine00:06
denisetheres  bin demo jdk jre and source under java 6 none that say plugin00:06
MementoMoriboo: have turn on the in the mixer?00:07
MementoMoriboo: can you recheck it?00:07
deniseunder sun java sorry00:07
booits on00:07
deniseso whitch one do i pick00:07
snowdonkeydenise: it's none of those, one sec00:07
dwidmann_Angelus_: first, do you have the 32-bit library installed? If so, you might need to create a script that tells it where to look for the libraries first before it launches it.00:08
booand if i use "Analog mix" i can here an echo00:08
deniseok thanks00:08
MementoMoriboo: sorry, cant help you...00:08
Avt3kkif it starts the kubuntu desktop how I run the orbiter in linux media center edition desktop or just after setting up kubuntu desktop and installing my video card driver and monitor picking now what step im on now?00:08
boook... thx anyways00:08
_Angelus_dwidmann: yes i have the 32bit libs00:08
dwidmann_Angelus_: where did you put the 32-bit libs, /lib32?00:08
jameswf#/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so00:09
_Angelus_dwidmann: there is in both00:09
bobesponjaanybody knows what's the bash command to know what proc I have? (P4, dual core etc)00:09
denisei have java comon and java package installed00:09
jameswfcat /proc/cpuinfo00:10
dwidmann_Angelus_: It has been a while since I've had to do that ... give me a minute00:10
sonic_getting error trying to print that kde print server sould not be contacted00:10
_Angelus_ok thanks dude00:10
sonic_how do I make sure its running?00:10
Avt3kkguys I got this error from linux media center starting up: orbiter failed to setup the transparency. please check if the transparency manager is running.00:12
snowdonkeydenise: ok, not sure why sun-java6-plugin isn't visible.  just to be sure nothing comes up when you type this at terminal:    aptitude search sun-java6-plugin00:13
deniseok00:15
denisethis is what came up00:15
denisedenise@ubuntu:~$ aptitude search sun-java6-plugin00:15
denisep   sun-java6-plugin                - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 600:15
snowdonkeydenise: That's what we need to install  :)   Type:   sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin00:16
snowdonkeydenise: after it downloads it'll ask you to accept license agreement before it finishes installing.  If it's in a window be sure to scroll to the end of the license and check the thing to select it.  If it appears in the console you may have to use TAB key to select YES then hit enter00:18
Avt3kkim reinstalling LMCE00:19
Avt3kkgot to set it up right00:19
Avt3kkonly basic not with transparency00:19
denisek00:19
Avt3kkim reading the tutorial :/ if all else fails read the tutorial hahha00:20
denisethis is what it says00:20
deniseE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)00:20
deniseE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:20
deniseReading package lists... Done00:21
snowdonkeydenise: Ok, make sure adpet is closed00:21
deniseBuilding dependency tree00:21
deniseReading state information... Done00:21
deniseInitializing package states... Done00:21
deniseBuilding tag database... Done00:21
deniseE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)00:21
deniseE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?00:21
deniseok00:21
denisethen do it again00:21
snowdonkeydenise: Adept, Add/Remove Programs, and aptitude are the same program, only 1 can be used at a time00:21
snowdonkeydenise: yeah, try it again00:21
denisedo i want to contunu yes or no00:22
Avt3kkhahaha 10 minutes to wait for kubuntu LMCE to untar all those packages00:22
snowdonkeyyes00:22
Avt3kkim going to post LMCE vs wmce00:23
Avt3kkyoutube00:23
denisea bunch of words are coming up00:23
denisethis is what it says now00:23
deniseReading package lists... Done00:23
deniseBuilding dependency tree00:23
deniseReading state information... Done00:23
deniseReading extended state information00:23
deniseInitializing package states... Done00:23
deniseWriting extended state information... Done00:23
deniseBuilding tag database... Done00:23
dwidmannokay, I think I've found it _Angelus_, you need to set a variable called LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 ..... I think00:23
ardchoille!paste | denise00:24
ubotudenise: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:24
Avt3kkvideo 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcNwnANrCpw00:24
Avt3kkvideo 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC-YwwQ1Pkk00:25
snowdonkeydenise: ok, it's done installing.  If you have Firefox open close it then open it again00:25
deniseok00:25
snowdonkeydenise: to verify you have the java plugin now type this in address bar:  about:plugins00:25
ardchoilleAvt3kk: This is not the place to post video links00:25
Avt3kkim sorry00:25
Avt3kkthing is its based on kubuntu00:26
Avt3kkvery interesting00:26
ardchoilleAvt3kk: Doesn't matter, this channel is for problem solving.00:26
Avt3kkim sorry :(00:26
Avt3kkwont happen again00:26
deniseyay its working00:27
Avt3kkis there kubuntu-offtopic?00:27
denisei got into yahoo games00:27
snowdonkeydenise: woot well done00:27
dwidmannAvt3kk: yes00:27
Avt3kkI found it!!! :D00:28
deniseok i shouild be good to get the rest like open rpg and stuff from the manager00:30
sMonkWhy is it, I get my sound working one min and the next it wont?00:30
denisethanks bye now00:31
biovoresound card probably can't handel concurrent access to /dev/dsp00:31
sMonkok, I have a fairly new system00:31
alexanderDoes anyone know how to set roaming back on a wireless card?  My list of available wireless networks has disappeared from Network Manager.  I'd even be fine with a terminal script just to get it back.00:31
sMonkI tried the Oss etc00:32
biovorewhat sounds card..00:32
aoplayook how do i install flash00:32
sMonkOnboard00:32
ardchoille!flash | aoplayo00:33
ubotuaoplayo: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash00:33
biovoreyeah.. can't handle multipule /dev/dsp access.. don't use oss for sound..00:33
aoplayothank you00:33
sMonkok, even when I switch to autodetect still nothing00:33
biovoreand kill artsd00:33
sMonkartsd?00:34
biovorelol00:34
biovorewrong window00:34
_Angelus_dwidmann: i solved that, i had 64bit plugins by mistake . but now i got this error00:37
_Angelus_* ePSXe: PSX BIOS loaded [/home/angelus/Opt/epsxe160lin/bios//Scph5502.bin].00:37
_Angelus_ * Init gpu[0][libgpuPeopsSDL.so.1.0.16]00:37
_Angelus_Segmentation fault (core dumped)00:37
_Angelus_angelus@POTcore:~/Desktop$00:37
dwidmann_Angelus_: hmmm, I've no idea :s00:38
dwidmann_Angelus_: try posting on UF ... you might have luck there (what with there being over 600,000 members 'n all00:39
t1n0m3nWhen I right click, configure desktop, screensaver, my screensavers are missing.  If I open kcontrol as root, I can see my screen savers.  Any idea on what is wrong?00:39
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Avt3kkok it started the 9 steps of the LMCE setup its the green screen im on the first step what do I pick I will show choices00:40
t1n0m3nkcontrol as my unprivileged user cannot see screen savers, but running as root it can see the screen savers00:42
Avt3kkvga     dvi/hdmi    component   composite S-video   which do I choose? im trying to play this in my tower desktop on my LG flatron L1950S00:42
Avt3kkcomponent?00:43
Avt3kkits vga plug00:43
t1n0m3nAvt3kk: coose vga then?00:43
dwidmannAvt3kk: if you've got a monitor connected via vga, you sh ould probably choose vga, I would think.00:43
t1n0m3n*choose*00:43
Avt3kkI think so im confused dont mind me :/00:44
Avt3kkstatic images?00:45
Avt3kkopen gl with overlay00:45
Avt3kkopen gl with alpha blending00:46
t1n0m3nkcontrol as my unprivileged user cannot see screen savers, but running as root it can see the screen savers.  Anyone have an idea on how I can get my normal user to be able to see the list of screensavers?00:46
Avt3kkpick static images? it say check plutohome.com00:46
dwidmannt1n0m3n: what groups is your user a part of00:48
MinatakuVGA is a 15 pin, High-Density D-Shell connector00:48
MinatakuDVI/HDMI is a D-Shell connector with several dense rows of pins00:48
MinatakuComponent has 3 to 5 RCA cables, three for video and optionally one or two for audio00:49
MinatakuComposite has 1 to 3 RCA cables, one for video and optionally one or two for audio00:49
MinatakuS-Video uses a Mini-DIN connector00:49
Avt3kknow I got choice :00:49
Avt3kkthink I get static ya00:50
Avt3kkthat overlay thing what messup lasttime00:50
t1n0m3ndwidmann: adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, scanner, lpadmin, admin, netdev, powerdev00:51
Avt3kkuhoh it asking about sound00:53
Avt3kkanalog/SPDIF coaxial/SPDIF optical/ no sound00:54
Avt3kkshould I pick analog?00:54
Avt3kkno coaxial no optical must be analog what you guys think00:54
dwidmannt1n0m3n: Hmm, that looks right, I'm not really sure why you wouldn't be able to get at your screensavers ... have you changed anything regarding them(ie: did they used to work fine?))00:55
Avt3kkanalog?00:55
Avt3kkits my only choice00:55
dwidmannAvt3kk: worth a shot00:55
xero_server!php00:56
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:56
hydrogenor IIS instead of apache00:56
t1n0m3ndwidmann: Yeah, they wroked fine until I started getting an error with adept telling me that it could not commit changes because it was going to break something. I re installed dpkg and it seemed to fix it, but now I have this issue. This all started from an update a few days ago.00:57
hydrogenor windows instead of linux00:57
vsudilovok whats a good mail client -- sick of thunderbird00:57
hydrogenso really, LAMP could mean without much change MIPR00:57
_Angelus_dwidmann: i solved that too00:57
_Angelus_:D00:57
hydrogenvsudilov: the best overall right now (regretfully..) is thunderbird00:58
hydrogenthat i've found00:58
t1n0m3ndwidmann: It seems to me to be a permissions issue, but I am not sure what directory to look at00:58
hydrogenunless you want to get into the world of mutt and pine00:58
hydrogenbut I don't suggest it!00:58
Avt3kknow I see the Linux MCE launch manager00:58
_Angelus_dwidmann:  my last issue, kubutnu gutsy is not reading playstation discs, k3b is reading them but giving me sector errors, is it something to do with 64bit00:58
dwidmannt1n0m3n: sudo updatedb && locate screensaver00:58
vsudilovmeh...I prefer the apple mail00:58
vsudilovI'm used to that, and I hate having to use thunderbird on this machine00:59
hydrogenyep.. and because its opensource you can install it... oh wait :00:59
hydrogen:/00:59
dwidmann_Angelus_: I don't know, let me pop a playstation disk into my brothers (32-bit) computer and find out00:59
xero_serverwhere is the php library stored in ubuntu?00:59
BluesKajAvt3kk, I dunno who you're talking to but maybe this site will help : http://linuxmce.com/00:59
hydrogenbut hey, thats okay, apple is still obviously better than ms... I mean.. they used a closed version of unix instead of a closed version of their own os!00:59
* hydrogen sgihs00:59
kubuntunewbiecould someone please tell me the difference between suspend and hibernate00:59
hydrogensuspend = to ram, hibernate = to disk01:00
hydrogenerr01:00
hydrogenno01:00
hydrogensuspend = hibernate01:00
hydrogenstand by = to ram01:00
hydrogenafaik01:00
kubuntunewbiehaha01:00
kubuntunewbieI think suspend & Hibernate are 2 diff things, im just trying to fig out which one does which01:01
_Angelus_thanks dwidmann :D01:01
hydrogen!suspend01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:01
hydrogen!hibernate01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:01
BluesKaj!info suspend01:01
ubotuPackage suspend does not exist in gutsy01:01
BluesKaj!info-suspend01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info-suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:02
BluesKajdumb bots01:02
sMonkdoes anyone here use Windowmaker?01:02
dwidmann_Angelus_: ps1 or ps2 disk, also, were you doing anything (ie copying) that caused you to get the sector errors (so I can try to reproduce)01:03
_Angelus_dwidmann: its a ps1 copied disc01:03
_Angelus_not the original one01:04
dwidmann_Angelus_: well, what were you doing when it gave you the sector error?01:04
_Angelus_dwidmann: as i said, when i insert a ps1 disc in my drive,  kubuntu doesn't mount it, but if i open k3b , k3b reads it, when i try to make an iso from it from k3b, it gives sector errors, when i tried to run the disc from epsxe(ps1 emu) it gives errors too01:05
CreationistWhat package do I need to install for Dolphin to show previews of video files?01:06
t1n0m3nI cant seem to find any out of the ordinary file permissions...  I did re-install kscreensaver just for grins, but it doesnt seem to make a difference01:06
dwidmann_Angelus_: tried to do the copy and got errors here on my 64-bit desktop, gonna try my brothers desktop now01:07
schistewhat is the command to switch an audio device on01:07
schiste(ie soundcard)01:07
_Angelus_ok dwidmann01:07
draikWould anyone know why "nvidia" breaks/kills my X Server, but not "nv". I have the correct nVidia driver installed; nvidia-glx-new. Also, my OpenGL screensaver doesn't work.01:07
dwidmann_Angelus_: bombed out in 32-bit also01:09
_Angelus_O_O01:10
sMonkdraik: I have the same problem01:10
_Angelus_i see01:10
_Angelus_this is strange01:10
_Angelus_on gentoo i used to mount them i don't know how01:10
dwidmann_Angelus_: try turning off error correction, ignore read errors, and change the copy mode to clone mode01:10
draiksMonk: Getting closer to a solution?01:10
sMonkdraik: No..  :(01:10
draiksMonk: What is your driver? Video card?01:11
sMonknvidia as well.01:11
sMonk660001:12
draikYup. We're both nvidia-glx-new01:12
sMonkyup01:13
_Angelus_dwidmann: that wouldn't solve my mounthing problem, i wanna mount 'em01:15
dwidmann_Angelus_: I wonder what the fstype is01:19
_Angelus_dwidmann: ISO , since its a copied disc01:19
dwidmanndmesg says this01:20
dwidmann[ 3079.751045] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.01:20
_Angelus_:O01:21
Avt3kkdetecting dcerouter public should I use it?01:21
Avt3kklinux media center edition is asking me this now01:21
Avt3kkwindows share password is? its default01:22
_Angelus_dwidmann: i think linux is unable to read ps1 discs then01:23
biovoreI didn't have any problems here reading PS1/2/3 CD/DVD's on linux01:24
dwidmann_Angelus_: maybe so, I don't know01:24
dwidmannHmm, I found a way to crash d3lphin, that's no fun01:25
bazhanghow'd you do it?01:26
waltercoolsomeone know how create an apt server?01:26
_Angelus_dwidmann: i found a way to kill my pc!01:26
bazhang:}01:26
dwidmann_Angelus_: I hear wet works well.01:27
bazhangwaltercool: you want to mirror the servers?01:27
waltercoolbazhang: nop, only create a personal server01:28
waltercoolbazhang: for now xD01:28
tekteenanyone know how to create Spanish (accented) characters in kubuntu on an english keyboard?01:30
waltercoolbazhang: u know?01:30
bazhangwaltercool: kind of a backup of everything you've ever installed?01:31
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draikbazhang: Isn't that the point to APTonCD?01:32
bazhangdraik: I was going to say the same thing--does Kubuntu have that?01:32
Avt3kkbrb01:32
draikbazhang: let me check01:33
biovoreyes it dose.. I forget where.. I never use it..01:33
waltercoolbazhang: yeah, i need have a special .deb :P01:33
draikbazhang: Yes01:33
emusetekteen: i think you should install the language support package for Spanish and use the scim input method to create the characters.01:33
bazhangI know Ubuntu-based Mint does01:33
waltercoolbazhang: in official repositores i cant find it01:33
draikbazhang: Universe01:33
_Angelus_dwidmann:  mount dir/ dir/ -t iso9660 -o loop mounted it,01:33
bazhangwaltercool: you should try that then01:33
_Angelus_dwidmann: i think its a hald issue01:33
bazhang!info aptoncd01:34
ubotuaptoncd: Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB01:34
waltercoolbazhang: but... what i need do in my server?01:34
bazhangwaltercool: you get to choose what to put on it--through a gui no less :}01:34
tekteenemuse: what do u mean01:34
waltercoolbazhang: but in an apt server i need create the Release, Release.gpg, Contents... etc01:35
bazhangtekteen: install the spanish support, type as normal, then when you want to add those characters, switch to the spanish input via scim01:36
tekteenok01:36
tekteenhow?01:36
bazhangwaltercool: if it's your own personal server do you really need gpg?01:36
bazhang!info scim01:36
ubotuscim: smart common input method platform. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.7-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 740 kB, installed size 2004 kB01:36
waltercoolbazhang: no xDDD, but i need Contents for example01:37
tekteenty01:37
bazhangtekteen: install that package then install language you want via regional and accessibility01:37
elliott_Installing xorg-driver-fglrx breks my sound system. any idead for getting it back and/or making them both work at the same time?01:37
emusetekteen: you can use adept to install  the language package and scim01:38
Rukus-does anyone know how to mount a usb drive?01:38
Rukus-i cant seem to get it to work01:39
emuse!info adept01:39
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.3ubuntu17.1 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 44 kB01:39
bazhangwaltercool: I don't believe that is the way aptoncd works; you can give it a try01:39
Rukus-i had it working before on a different installation, but god only knows how01:39
Rukus-!info mount01:39
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.13-8ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 360 kB01:39
waltercoolok, let me try to upload some things01:39
smileHow do I see what's causing Error:  "Unsupported operation" while copying "/etc/xen/auto/sql". Would you like to continue?"01:41
bazhangRukus-: shared drive with windows machine?01:42
Rukus-its an external usb drive01:42
Rukus-hooked to the laptop01:43
Rukus-i forced it to mount. i hope i didnt ruin it?01:43
bazhangRukus-: what file system?01:43
Rukus-ntfs01:43
Rukus-i got it working01:43
maybeway36ntfs on a usb drive?01:43
bazhangdo you have ntfs-3g installed?01:43
maybeway36usually its fat01:43
Rukus-yes01:43
maybeway36well good you got it to work01:43
Rukus-i hope i never screws it up01:44
Rukus-scrweed01:44
elliott_nobody knows about my sound breaking after installing the restricted video driver?01:44
maybeway36weird01:44
maybeway36nope, i never use sound on my machine01:44
Rukus-doesnt work after i disconnected it01:44
Rukus-ugh01:44
Rukus-I HATE TIS01:44
Rukus-this01:44
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Rukus-lloll01:44
Rukus-man01:44
Rukus-oh man iam gonna go batty01:44
Rukus-io need help again01:45
dwidmannRukus-: don't worry, batty is a nice place01:45
Rukus-last time i did this, it did it so smoothly, i forget hopw tho01:45
Rukus-it was so simple too01:45
Rukus-i get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options-refused uid 1000"01:46
maybeway36maybe you should back everything up, then format the usb drive with fat01:46
bazhangRukus-: he has a point..01:46
Rukus-ok i got it working01:47
bazhanghow?01:47
Rukus-i went to properties, and removed the tick "mount as user"01:48
Rukus-whatever that means01:48
Rukus-worked instantly tho01:48
_Angelus_dwidmann: take a look at my dmesg, somebody told me my drive is bad http://rafb.net/p/cC8pBT46.html01:49
Rukus-i cant exactly backup a 500gb hard drive that easily, eitehr so that woulda sucked to try to convert it01:49
Rukus-my laptop is finally running how it should01:49
draikbazhang: 1819 packages with APTonCD01:50
bazhangdraik: that'll have to be a big cd :}01:50
draiksMonk: I found a few things with Ubuntu01:50
draikbazhang: Or 1 DVD01:50
draikbazhang: 3 CDs01:50
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draiksMonk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58446701:52
Rukus-why does it matter if my 500gb external drive is ntfs or fat?01:54
draikGotta restart X. sMonk I will let you know if what I did worked.01:54
bazhangthe dos format is the friendliest for sharing between mac windows and linux like that01:54
biovorewell EXT3 works on everyone except M$01:56
bazhangerr not with mac01:56
biovorenot out of the bax01:57
biovore3rd parity01:57
bazhangwhat's the app?01:58
Rukus-with ntfs-3g, i've been having no problems using ntfs01:58
biovorelooks buggy though..01:58
Rukus-seems fine01:59
biovorentfs-3g seems ok.. I have seem some problems though on the writing side of things though..01:59
Rukus-i wrote about 40 gbs and not one error so far (atleast in files i have used)02:00
elliott_can anyone help me with my sound issue?02:01
bazhangelliott_: could you be more precise?02:02
elliott_sorry, i was asking about it earlier. Installing xorg-driver-fglrx breaks my sound. any ideas for getting it back and/or making them both work at the same time?02:03
bazhangelliott_: what error messages did you get?02:03
elliott_No error messages, there's just no sound output02:03
elliott_but there was before I installed it02:03
elliott_the video driver was the only thing that changed02:03
biovoreoh that mac ext2/3 fs thing is called ext2fsx02:04
bazhangelliott_: have you checked the sound controls--kmix for example?02:04
biovoreits on source forge..02:04
bazhangcheers biovore02:04
lordofthepigsHello, I have a problem with the ACPI volume buttons on my laptop keyboard02:05
elliott_yeah, nothing is muted02:05
lordofthepigsin feisty, the volume would be adjusted for the "master channel" as chosen in Kmix02:05
lordofthepigsbut in gutsy, it seems to alway apply to the headphones02:05
bazhanglordofthepigs: have you tried kmilo?02:05
lordofthepigs!kmilo02:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmilo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:06
lordofthepigsbazhang: what' kmilo?02:06
bazhang!info kmilo02:06
ubotukmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB02:06
lordofthepigsit looks like it was installed by default02:07
lordofthepigsbazhang: actually the keys do work02:07
lordofthepigsbut it always changes the volume of the "headphone" chanel02:07
lordofthepigseven when the sound comes out of the speakers02:07
Rukus-hey02:08
Rukus-u can choose your "master channel"02:08
Rukus-in kmix02:08
lordofthepigswhich means that when I listen to stuff from the speakers, changing the volume using the special buttons doesn't seem to work02:08
lordofthepigsRukus-: I know, and it used to work properly in feisty02:08
Rukus-hmm02:08
Rukus-io dunno man02:08
Rukus-i just spend 3 days getting ndiswrapper to work02:09
lordofthepigsbut now, it always applies to "headphones" no matter what the master channel is02:09
Rukus-spent*02:09
elliott_bazhang: No ideas?02:10
bazhangelliott_: which sound mixer?02:10
elliott_bazhang: If you're not asking what program I'm using (Kmix, etc), then I don't know what sound mixer means02:12
bazhangelliott_: perhaps I erred--alsa, arts, etc.02:12
elliott_bazhang how do I find out?02:13
_Angelus_if i install a new dvd drive , will kubuntu automatically add an entry in fstab02:13
bazhangelliott_: in the kmenu sound and multimedia sound system hardware02:14
elliott_it's set to autodetect02:15
bazhangelliott_: try some different settings perhaps02:16
lordofthepigshow can I change the chanel to which the latop volume buttons apply to?02:17
jeff-mhi, all02:18
bazhanghi!02:18
jeff-mI have two strange issues after my internet connection dies midway through a Gutsy upgrade and a subsequent install from scratch.02:18
jeff-mMy Ensiniq AudioPCI is not giving me any audio (and KMix and alsamixer show strange controls) and more importantly (at least for the moment0, I can't seem to connect to any IRC servers via Konversation or XChat.  I'm reduced to using Mirc on my work laptop.02:20
jeff-mThe error I get from Konversation is [464] Hmmm, bad password02:20
elliott_bazhang None of the options fixed it02:20
jeff-mBut I can't seem to find any passwords set.02:20
bazhangjeff-m: have you asked at #konversation?02:21
djc-pedrohola02:21
bazhang!es | djc-pedro02:21
ubotudjc-pedro: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.02:21
jeff-mbazhang, I didn't know such a channel existed.  I'll ask immediately.02:22
elliott_bazhang any ideas?02:29
elliott_I just installed, so if there's nothing i can do I can just reinstall, but I'd like to do it the right way if possible02:30
bazhangelliott_: have you tried opening either arts or alsa in the terminal?02:30
evjunior09If i download Photoshop 7.1 will it work with wine?02:33
diomedesyes02:33
diomedesbut whats wrong with gimp02:33
evjunior09Well i have a Photoshop class and ive gotten really good with photoshop itself02:33
evjunior09ive been with GIMP but well..it's alittle confusing02:34
elliott_XD02:34
elliott_holy crap02:34
elliott_I decided to go ahead and reinstall alsa02:34
elliott_and in the process of reinstalling, I apear to have managed to uninstall kde02:35
_Angelus_how can i fix this02:44
_Angelus_Firefox doesn't know how to open this address , because the protoc(mms) isn't asociatted with any program02:44
alanHey02:45
_Angelus_*protocol02:45
alanMenus of WINE are using a rare FOUNT02:45
alanhow can i fit it?02:45
alanI cant even read it02:45
alexbe01well.  dolphin isn't as bad in kde4 as previously expected02:46
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Daisuke_Laptopunfortunately, kde4 appears to be not at all useful yet02:48
JucatoDaisuke_Laptop: the real dolphin is not bad at all... it's d3lphin that is02:48
Daisuke_Laptopi'm hopeful that soon we'll actually get a menu for it in the repos :)02:48
Daisuke_Laptopi've managed to actually get the system tray and task switcher in the bottom panel02:49
Jucatohuh?02:49
Jucatowhat menu?02:49
Daisuke_LaptopJucato: no kmenu equivalent (at least not here)02:49
Jucatokickoff has been there since beta302:50
Daisuke_Laptopi'm using beta 3 :\02:50
Daisuke_Laptopunless there are packages i have yet to install02:50
bazhangbeta4 is nicer, more usable02:50
* Jucato doesn't use the distro packages for kde402:51
JucatoDaisuke_Laptop: check in the Add Applet program if you see an Application Launcher applet02:51
Jucato(right-click on the desktop)02:51
ubuntuargh..so i've waited until tonight to upgrade to gutsy, having heard about all of the nightmares.  I thought I was finally ready to do it..and guess what.. i'm in my own nightmare.  so, i followed the official upgrade instructions, the upgrade tool seemed to work up until the point when it was 'cleaning up'.. in the process, the updater just exited, without any message of completion.  Since that was the last step, i interpreted that as a02:51
ubuntucompletion signal, and rebooted.  Now, grub cannot find any of my listed kernels.  So i'm in a feisty livecd and don't know what to do..02:51
Daisuke_LaptopJucato: i do have that in the menu, but when i try to add it, i get "This object could not be created"02:52
Jucatohm.. kickoff wasn't probably packaged then... :P02:53
|dthacker|Hi, I've somehow lost my ability to send email after a fresh install to gutsy02:53
Jucatonot KDE's fault now02:53
Daisuke_Laptopno02:53
Daisuke_Laptopthat's why i said i hoped we'd get it in the repos soon :)02:53
rixxonHow can I adjust brightness manually? Kubuntu stopped accepting the shortcuts on my laptop02:53
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Daisuke_Laptopi'm installing all the additional kde4 packages02:54
Daisuke_Laptop(utils, graphics, etc. etc.)02:54
Daisuke_Laptopand when i try "engine explorer" i get "sorry, could not find the program 'plasmaAppletExplorer'02:55
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bleakedargh..so i've waited until tonight to upgrade to gutsy, having heard about all of the nightmares.  I thought I was finally ready to do it..and guess what.. i'm in my own nightmare.  so, i followed the official upgrade instructions, the upgrade tool seemed to work up until the point when it was 'cleaning up'.. in the process, the updater just exited, without any message of completion.  Since that was the last step, i interpreted that as a02:58
bleakedcompletion signal, and rebooted.  Now, grub cannot find any of my listed kernels.  So i'm in a feisty livecd and don't know what to do..02:58
Daisuke_Laptopwell i thought that would take care of it :\03:01
herobleaked: you might consider using apt-get to finish the upgrade03:02
heroalthough no assurances it will be the best way to handle the situation03:02
Kernelhello all. is it possible to make a root prompt red? ie "user@localhost:~$" would be "user@localhost:~$"   ...ive seen it done b4 on different distros.....and im aware its a sudo based distro :-)03:02
bleakedhero: well, should i just mount my two partitons, chroot in, and then try to finish?03:03
herobleaked: heh, what you *should* do is up in the air.  i do know, though, that you don't need the graphical upgrade tool to finish03:03
heroyou can probably boot into the previous kernel version via grub03:04
jeff__Hi, all.  I had my internet connection drop when upgrading to Gutsy and ended up reinstalling from the Gutsy CD.  Along the way, I seem to have lost my sound.  KMix shows strange controls for my ensoniq audioPCI card.  Same behavior from alsamixer.03:04
hero!buglist03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buglist - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:05
nosrednaekimjeff__: err yeah... probably a messed up alsa conf.03:05
nosrednaekimjeff__: trouble is,I forgot where the config was..03:06
nosrednaekimKernel: you've been using PClinuxOS ;)03:07
jeff__nosrednaekim: From my Mandrake (Mandriva) days, i think I remember something like sndconfig.  Does that apply to Kubuntu?03:08
Kernelnosrednaekim: indeed :-)03:08
elliott_bazhang after a frsh install everything works, so something about that driver has to be it03:08
nosrednaekimjeff__: probably alsamixer or alsa conf03:09
nosrednaekimKernel: yeah, I'm sure there is a way...if you still have PclinuxOS around you can just cpoy the .bashrc over.03:09
bazhangelliott_: wow. glad to hear it--you installed that quickly?03:10
Kernelnosrednaekim: yea. i googled and found a few examples...im now messing with it ..... :-)03:10
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heroKernel: the bash howto on tldp.org is pretty good for that to, iirc03:10
herogo red prompt go!03:10
jeff__nosrednaekim: all right, I'll play with alsaconf.  Thanks for the pointer.03:10
Kernelhehe03:11
Kernelok ill scope it out :-)03:11
nosrednaekimjeff__: er... that seems not to be a command..03:11
nosrednaekimjeff__: try alsamixer03:11
jeff__alsamixer gives me the same sliders as KMix -- 3dControl - Center and 3d Control - depth are my first two, instead of the Master volume and others I would expect.03:12
nosrednaekimjeff__: does the sound work though? The names arerather superflous03:13
jeff__nosrednaekim: nope.  When I first installed, I got a horrible screeching through the speakers, but managed to turn that off by turning off one of the switches in KMix.03:14
nosrednaekimjeff__: do you have a MIC?03:14
jeff__nosrednaekim: one of the ones labeled IEC958.03:14
jeff__Yeah, I do have a mic.03:14
nosrednaekimjeff__: is that what you disabled?03:15
Daisuke_Laptopso is kubuntu going to be getting kde4beta4 packages?03:15
herodo you have to run the xserver-xgl to run compiz?03:15
JucatoDaisuke_Laptop: when it has been built. heard there were FTBS problems...03:15
jeff__No.  The mic is connected but turned off.03:16
nosrednaekimhero: only if you have an ATI03:17
herook03:17
nonewmsgs_is the new gimp going to be made a backport03:17
Daisuke_Laptopah ha03:17
Daisuke_Laptopjust curious :)03:17
Daisuke_Laptopwell i think i'll leave kde4 alone for right now.03:18
leones03:18
elliott_bazhang I've had to install before on this computer and it goes about that speed. The only issue now is being forced to use the generic driver03:18
leon#kubuntu-es03:18
FireTekhey.. is there any fixes out for the cpu maxed out problem with xorg03:18
bazhangelliott_: you mean for the video card? you using compiz or some such?03:19
heroafter installing compiz, compiz-kde, etc., do you need to run any program to get it going?03:20
FireTekI am trying to figure out how to fix my computer from running at 100% cpu03:20
elliott_bazhang I'm not using anything that needs anything more than the generic driver, but it just bothers me03:21
nosrednaekimjeff__: mess around with the different channels and you'll probably figure it out :D03:22
jeff__nosrednaekim: Thanks, looking into it03:22
FireTekdoes anyone have the same problem i have with 100% maxed cpu in gutsy03:23
bazhangelliott_: I understand the feeling.03:23
rixxonSince upgrade to 7.10 I can't adjust screen brightness on my laptop - _and_ it is stuck on lowest :( any ideas appreciated03:24
MagicCowWhat's a good PDF editor for Linux?03:24
heroFireTek: i did, because i was using xserver-xgl.  i disabled it03:24
rixxonMagicCow: I think OO.org can save as PDF03:24
FireTekhow do you do that03:24
heroFireTek: search the bug reports at launchpad for the name of the file and such.03:24
herowell, first03:25
herouse the command top in a konsole03:25
herosee what tops the list03:25
heroif it is even xgl03:25
bazhanghtop is nice as well03:25
FireTekwell the thing is that half the time it just shows 100% usage03:26
FireTekbut nothing using03:26
herodo you notice lag in screen movement?03:26
FireTeka little03:26
FireTekbut it like completely locks up my system03:26
herohmm03:26
heroFireTek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/03:27
FireTekit runs fine on my other system, but this lappy is dumb03:27
heroFireTek: the solution is under "1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu2" on that page03:28
FireTeki have to go through a huge process just to get my soundcard to work03:28
herowell, it's worth a try03:28
FireTekwhats funny is that this damn laptop will run gentoo with no problems.. but wont run kubuntu or ubuntu or anything03:29
herodistros have fine differences between them03:29
heroso it's not that strange03:29
herofrustrating, yes :)03:29
FireTekI dont like gentoo.. i always had issues03:29
roomulohello...03:29
FireTekmy friend was always having to log in to my terminal and fix shit03:30
roomuloi need some help...03:30
FireTekI am still learning  here lol03:30
heroFireTek: good!  well, good luck03:30
roomulowith this error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15603:30
dsmith_someone made some chnages me thinks, I have been trying to get wireless working on this laptop and I just do another clean install of 7.10 and its finally working03:30
* dsmith_ is happy03:30
roomuloanyone?03:31
NickPresta!baddevice | roomulo03:32
uboturoomulo: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors03:32
roomuloNickPresta, thank you so much :)03:32
NickPresta:)03:32
momalAnyone happen to know where I can get the the non-threaded qt libraries?03:33
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bazhangMagicCow: have you tried pdfedit?03:56
bazhang!info pdfedit03:57
ubotupdfedit: Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 2776 kB, installed size 7532 kB03:57
ardchoillebazhang: Thanks, I didn't know that esited.04:00
ardchoille*existed04:00
bazhangardchoille: cheers!04:01
CreationistWhat package do I need to install for Dolphin to show previews of video files?04:06
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prestonGcan anyone tell me why Mplayer isnt saving my preferences....im using gutsy-6404:13
prestonGill set the preferences but they wont save04:13
prestonGthey just keep resetting04:13
prestonGany ideas04:14
bazhangcreationist use Konqueror for that--dolphin doesn't have that functionality that I'm aware of04:15
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scotsQuestion:  Kubuntu 7.10 and its relevant KDE version - Taskbar just completely disappears after a week or two of normal operation.  Boggle?!04:16
scotstyping "kicker" at terminal causes it to say "kicker is already running!"04:17
prestonGcan anyone tell me why Mplayer isnt saving my preferences....im using gutsy-6404:31
prestonGill set the preferences but they wont save04:31
prestonGthey just keep resetting04:31
bazhangprestonG: have you tried any other media players --kaffeine for instance?04:33
abhraffmpeg error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)04:33
abhraWhat may be the reason behind it. Please help04:34
bazhangwhat is the error message?04:35
Dr_willisabhra,  what are your system specs?04:35
ardchoillescots: open a terminal and run:  dcop kicker default restart04:37
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lubashka×ÔÕáì àãááÚØÕ Õáâì??04:37
ardchoilleI'd hit a trigger but I have no idea which language that is04:38
florianI just tried to install the kde4 beta packages, it looks great, but I can't get the kmenu to show up. Has anyone experienced something similar?04:38
bazhanglubashka: this is an English language channel04:38
scotsardchoille:  Weird!  That causes the taskbar to appear but when it auto-hides it refuses to reappear : |04:38
viktorhi i tryed doing the sudo apt-get install firfox04:39
viktorand then it gives me E: error04:39
viktorhas no isntallatioon canditate04:39
bazhangviktor: its firefox04:39
ardchoilleviktor: firfox  or  firefox ?04:39
lubashkasorry) i was curious if there any russians :)04:39
viktoryer i know04:39
viktorfirefox i did it04:39
Dr_willis!info firefox04:39
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.8+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB04:39
bazhang!ru | lubashka04:39
ubotulubashka: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke04:39
Dr_willisdo an apt-get update, and upgrade, then try again04:39
viktorunable to list the directory04:40
lubashkaspasibo)04:40
viktori still get the E drive error04:41
bazhangdo itashimashte04:41
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viktorsame thing happens when i try to install compiz04:41
viktorsame error always E04:41
MilesGis there anyway to test whether you have your swap partition successfully mounted?04:41
bazhangviktor: what software repositories do you have enabled?04:43
ardchoilleviktor: Can you paste the entire error to pastebin?04:43
Dr_willisviktor,  you are using the latest Kubuntu? 7.10  gutsy?04:43
abhraDr_willis: VLC is running on Windows XP and this VLC is accessing live stream from a SUSE 10 Linux PC04:44
ardchoilleDr_willis: I'm kinda concerned about that "E drive error"04:44
Dr_willisMilesG,  try the 'free' comand.04:44
viktorye latest 7.1004:44
viktori tyred paste bin and gives me a spam error wont let me04:44
ardchoilleviktor:  http://pastebin.ca/04:45
bazhangabhra: you're using OpenSuse?04:45
viktoryer and then04:45
viktorcant i paste it to u in a pm..?04:45
Jucato!pastebin | viktor04:45
ubotuviktor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:45
prestonGsrry abou not responding.....but ive used vlc, and mplayer, and totem04:46
prestonGive got to say i like mplayer the best04:46
prestonGit saddens me when theres something wrong with any linux....04:46
ardchoilleviktor: you're not identified to nickserv, you can't pm with id'd folks04:46
bazhangprestonG: try kaffeine and see if you get the same error04:46
viktorwhy everything gotta be so hard with linux04:46
Dr_willisI tend to use GeexBox. :) but thata because my laptop can quick boot into GeexBox to play videos. heh04:46
viktorwhat would  u like me put in the pastebin04:46
ardchoilleviktor: Linux is not hard, the problem is you have to "unlearn" some things.04:47
Dr_willisviktor,  compared to the problems ive had with windows - Linux is much easier.04:47
bazhangamen04:47
prestonGi have wierd problems04:47
Dr_willisWith linux - it pays to be Verbose, concise, and  precise.04:47
prestonGlike gutsy does this thing were04:47
prestonGwhen i boot it say can not allocate resoruce region 704:47
prestonGand again at 804:47
prestonGand now with this mplayer thing04:47
Dr_willisI find that by doing Clean Reinstalls - Not "upgrades" i have much fewer issues.  :)04:48
popeAfter installing Kubuntu 7.10, it won't boot except in recovery mode. How do i fix this?04:48
bazhangprestonG: playing dvds?04:48
prestonGthats what i did04:48
prestonGclean04:48
Dr_willisprestonG,  well you need to figure out what's saying that. :) is that in the kernel messages? or somewhere else.04:48
prestonGi did alittle reserch04:48
kaepora_gaeboraI need to reinstall windows for work, but when I try to do that, it says that it cannot find a hdd.  i assume that it is do to the fact that the hdd is formated for linux, but I don't know what to do about it,  Any Suggestions?04:48
prestonGumm04:48
Dr_willisdoes 'dmesg' mention similer messages.. is it keepiong the system from booting, ect..04:48
prestonGwhere do i go find the fstab thing04:48
prestonGi think it saves something04:48
Dr_willisfstab file is /etc/fstab04:48
prestonGwhen it boots04:48
Dr_willisfstab file does not 'save somthing' :)04:49
prestonGO and....i should tell you04:49
prestonGumm04:49
Dr_willisFstab file defines what filesystems get mounted where.04:49
prestonGi have to press <ctrl><alt><f6>04:49
prestonGso that i can continue booting normaly04:49
prestonGo well fstab isnt it then04:50
Dr_williswhat told you to hit alt-ctrl-F6?   that should switch to a different console display. I dont see how that would 'continue' anything.04:50
abhra_Dr_willis, bazhang: Can u please help me regarding that issue04:50
prestonGwell i knew that earlier....about the ctrl thing....04:50
prestonGso when i freshly installed gutsy (32&64)04:51
Dr_willisabhra_,  clarify the issue. be verbose, yet concise.04:51
prestonGit stopped at a blank screen04:51
prestonGso i was like wth04:51
prestonGand started pressing buttions04:51
prestonGlow and behold ctrl alt f6 worked04:51
viktorlinux should just become user friendly it would be the best operating system04:51
prestonGkubuntu has bugs04:52
prestonGsome...very little04:52
popeimo linux is user friendly, it just geared towards people who want to be more involved with their PCing ventures04:52
Daisuke_Idoviktor: it's getting there04:52
viktori cant install anything04:52
Daisuke_Ido!repos04:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:53
Daisuke_Ido!adept04:53
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:53
viktorcoz i get a E: erro and now i cant look at sources list to paste big fuk linux is shit04:53
Dr_willisphrases like 'user friendly' mean pretty much NOTHING these days.04:53
prestonGyea vista is "user friendly"04:53
popei miss adept, i've been runing sabayon while i try to figure out why kubuntu won't boot...portage sucks04:53
prestonGman...that thing has so meny bugs04:53
poperather, i don't enjoy using it04:53
Daisuke_Idoif you're going to use language like that and not attempt to work through the problem, then i personally don't care to even attempt to help you.04:53
Dr_willisSounds to me like somthing totally trashed your system viktor  from all the random problems you are mentioning.04:53
abhra_VLC is playing mp4 live stream properly only for  2-3 min after that it become stuck and giveing message:ffmpeg error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> dropping frame (computer too slow ?)main warning: late picture skipped.04:54
viktorcould it be coz windows in on another partiton04:54
Dr_willisabhra_,  you sure you network stream is not getting clogged/lagged/conjested?04:54
prestonGso does anyone have anyideas on my Mplayer and i guess my boot situation04:54
prestonG??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????04:54
Jucato!patience | prestonG04:55
ubotuprestonG: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:55
abhra_But on that same time if i open another VLC it play properly04:55
prestonGim not rushing anyone04:55
prestonGim just seeing if anyone has any ideas04:55
popeis the 7.04 iso still available from kubuntu.org?04:55
Jucatoyou're multiple question marks say that you are04:55
khirrwhat is the next resolution after 1280x1024?04:55
Jucatopope: should be04:55
prestonGo...im in a goofy mood thats all...srry for the misunderstanding04:56
popei can't seem to find it...i'll look some more ^_^04:56
viktorif windows gets the same effects of linux linux is gone04:56
abhra_Dr_willis: i think network has no any problem04:56
popeviktor....linux doesn't exsist just as alternative product, but a mindset too04:57
holycowviktor: you don't have a clue do you?04:57
viktorhow bout linux is shit,04:57
holycowthen why are you here?04:57
Dr_willisabhra_,  sounds to me like its getting lagged. or somthing similer.  may want to try increasing the buffer sizes in the player. I never use vlc streaming much (only toyed with it) it dident look very good.04:57
holycowgo use windows04:57
viktorim leaving04:57
viktori will04:57
kaepora_gaeboragood04:57
Dr_willisviktor,  go demand a refund.04:57
holycowsweet :)04:57
viktorkeep having problems loser04:57
popelol04:57
kaepora_gaeboradumb fuck04:58
holycowbye bye bitch04:58
Jucato!language04:58
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.04:58
popemaster linguist he was04:58
bazhang!ohmy04:58
holycow*oops* sorry04:58
herobut mostly friendly, bud04:58
Dr_willisPicking an OS for the 'desktop effects' - ONE of the many reasons I dont care for the 'compiz' addiction. :)04:58
MagicCowHE just needed some help.. linux can be frustrating to install the first time around.04:58
bazhangbut that's not the way to get it04:59
holycowMagicCow: thats true, retraining one self is hard04:59
popeall i'm finding is 6.06 and 7.10 on the download page, am i looking in the wrong place for 7.04?04:59
Dr_willissounded to me like he tried to do somthing and trashed his system.04:59
prestonGman....listen i appreciate u guys volunteering to help people.....but thats no way to handle things....04:59
MagicCowMaybe he'll come back to it.04:59
* Dr_willis kept his cool and calm.05:00
mneptokpope: why do you want 7.04?05:00
holycowit's not important to convert anyone to linux05:00
holycowthey haveto find their own path05:00
prestonGlol05:00
bazhangindeed05:00
holycowsome of their paths lead to linux others don't05:00
pope7.10 won't boot but in recovery mode, and i can't seem to figure out why05:00
MagicCowYeah, but he was just asking for help and was getting frustrated.05:00
prestonGthe way of the linux05:00
MagicCowIt happened to me too.05:00
bazhangbut you were civil05:00
holycowMagicCow: i will say i agree with you indeed05:00
prestonGall living beings have sudo-clorians05:00
corevetteis there a HOWTO for installing KDE4 on kubuntu gutsy?05:00
MagicCowI  punched my computer across the room because of linux.05:00
mneptokpope: /var/log love you long time05:00
Dr_willis!kde405:01
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php05:01
prestonGthey can harnes the power of the linux05:01
Dr_willisMagicCow,  odd.. only windows gets that treatment here...05:01
pope??05:01
holycowMagicCow: really?05:01
holycowhehe05:01
MagicCowDr_willis:  I was uninformed :D05:01
holycowwhat made you stick with it?05:01
Daisuke_IdoMagicCow: then you need anger management and a copy of ubuntu for dummies :D05:01
MagicCowI had not yet purged myself of Windows "Ease"05:01
bazhangdoes the computer still work?05:01
MagicCowAye, and I fear that even that would not help me.05:02
holycowMagicCow: i'm curious what made you stick with it?05:02
Dr_willisThe Golden Differance between Linxu and windows.. "When Linux Breaks, you can research/learn/ and normally fix it; when Windows breaks, you try doing odd/random/weird things just  Hopeing it will work"05:02
Dr_willis:)05:02
mneptokMagicCow: buy a support contract!05:02
bazhangMagicCow: did you try pdfedit?05:02
MagicCowProbably the same thing that makes everyone else stick with it, it's hard to give up on computer problems.05:02
MagicCowYou just want to keep doing stuff until it is fixed.05:02
holycowfor me it was freedom05:03
MagicCowbazhang: yeah, it would not open the PDF for me.05:03
holycownot being a sharecropper was a very powerfull motivator05:03
* Dr_willis trouble shoot why the Svideo out wasent working for about an hr once.. then reaized he had the svideo plugged into the wrong conector.. :)05:03
bazhanghaha05:03
MagicCowlol05:03
mneptoki just like orange.,05:03
Dr_willisOne end to the TV IN.. other end to the Video Card OUT.. Not the Tv Tuner.. IN.. :)05:03
MagicCowGet this.. I was trying to figure out my network problems for hours and hours, until finally I gave up and went to pull the network cable out of the back. It was never plugged in.05:04
bazhanghehe05:04
popelinux (so far for my 3 months post-ms) has been more like a hobby than an OS. Once i'm used to it, i'm sure that'll lessen. But i've enjoyed it so far05:04
ardchoillelol,05:04
Dr_willisMagicCow,  i trouble shoot networking onlaptop for an hr.. the  network cable was 'weak' at the conector and wasent 'clicking' when it went in..05:04
Dr_willisso once i replaced the worn out cable.....05:04
MagicCowAye, simililar to me, I remember plugging it in, it just "fell" out.05:05
Dr_willis"that Tree Jumped right out in front of my Car Officer!"05:05
corevetteis it worth trying to install kde4 on kubuntu?05:06
Dr_williscorevette,  proberly not at this time05:06
kevin_still beta05:06
Dr_williscorevette,  if you want to test kde4 - find a live cd with it.05:06
popeis kde4 still slated for december release?05:06
corevettenot much new?05:06
corevetteor what05:06
Dr_williswhen its done its done.. Use it then. :)05:06
Jucatopope: pretty much... for now...05:06
MagicCowAre there many notable changes in KDE4?05:06
kevin_will there be an adept update for it?05:07
JucatoMagicCow: hm... "lots"?05:07
Dr_willisMagicCow,  yes there will be.. WHEN its done. :)05:07
holycowits a rewrite from scratch05:07
holycowin otehrwords everything05:07
Jucatoholycow: not 100% true05:07
holycowthe kde theme artists are doing an amazing job too05:07
bazhangcorevette: try the livecd beta405:07
holycowJucato:aha k.  to what degree is it a rewrite then?05:07
MagicCowHmm.05:07
popewatch the kde4 vids on youtube and you'll see the massive difference (imo)05:07
Jucatokevin_: we still haven't gotten around to how the transition will go about... wait for further news05:07
MagicCowAre the graphic effects (compiz) going to be working well?05:07
kevin_ok05:07
bazhangthe current livecd is pretty nice05:07
MagicCowI know it's not a big deal to some.. but I like the pretty desktop stuff.05:08
Jucatoholycow: can't really give statistics. most are actually ported to Qt4 than rewritten05:08
Dr_williscompiz will  NOT be needed with kde4 - it has its own thang.05:08
Dr_willisor so i hear.05:08
MagicCowAh, okay.05:08
kevin_can't wait05:08
Jucatoit does05:08
holycowJucato: i thought the kde framework it self was rewritten05:08
holycownot just ported05:08
FireTekcan someone help me.  My CPU keeps jumping to 100% usage on cpu 1 & 2 in htop05:08
MagicCowI hope it's more stable for me than compiz was.. I really enjoyed it for the couple of hours that it worked.05:08
Dr_willisnot sure how that kde4 stuff relates to compiz...05:08
popei read that there won't be 'panels' as we've come to know (and love) them05:08
ardchoilleDr_willis: kde has it's own composite manager now (kompmgr) and I use it for drop shaows, transparency, and other things.05:09
holycowpope: what do you mean panels?05:09
FireTekand my swap is not being used..05:09
holycowyou mean multiple desktops?05:09
MagicCowHas anyone tried the beta, and is it pretty stable?05:09
Jucatoholycow: that's why I said not 100%. some are completely brand new from scratch, some are ported, some are the same05:09
holycowJucato: ah05:09
JucatoMagicCow: no. not yet for end-users05:09
FireTekcan someone help me.  My CPU keeps jumping to 100% usage on cpu 1 & 2 in htop05:09
popethe panel (or panels in my case) that are at the top and/or the bottom of your screen05:09
popelike your task bar05:09
Dr_willisFireTek,  Swap is only used when needed.. is the rest of your memory being used?05:09
MagicCowah05:09
holycowpope: oh thats in gnome05:10
holycowpope: in kde you will have a suped up version of panels05:10
Dr_willisFireTek,  What does  the 'free' command say about memory ussage?05:10
holycowin kde4 the panels are the same as the desktop05:10
holycowbut  you will be able to have just as many as you have now05:10
holycowits just that in terms of them sharing code, they will also share features, anything that can be on the desktop can be on a panel and vice versa05:10
* Dr_willis still likes his Windowmaker Warf Applets. :)05:11
JucatoBarf? O.o05:11
* Jucato runs and hides05:11
popegrrr....i've been trying to download gimp but portage seems to enjoy screwing with me05:11
Jucatothat's why there's APT :P05:11
kevin_gimp?05:12
Jucatoand Debian/Kubuntu05:12
Jucato!info gimp | kevin_05:12
ubotukevin_: gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 3800 kB, installed size 10476 kB05:12
Dr_willisI always put gimp on the Windows Box's i work on also. :)05:12
popei know, but i've been test driving sabayon while i try to figure out my notebooks objections to 7.1005:12
popeit's free photoshop (assuming you've never actually use photoshop, you'll  love it ^_^)05:13
Dr_willisI cant legally afford photoshop. :)05:13
Dr_willisI could afford a book on the GIMP however. :)05:13
kevin_so get it with torrents;)05:14
Jucatoeven if I could legally afford Photoshop, unless I absolutely needed it (like work or survival), I would still opt for FOSS... even if they're "just good enough"05:14
popei think i've figured it out (my 7.10 problem), for whatever reason gutsy sees my wifi and ethernet, but considers them restricted along with my ati vidcard...but when it goes to dl them, no connection. So, i always have to boot in recovery05:14
Jucato!piracy | kevin_05:14
ubotukevin_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o05:14
bazhang!efnet05:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about efnet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:15
Dr_willis!o4o05:15
ubotuSome things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.05:15
kevin_sorry05:15
* Dr_willis wonders what o4o stands for,,,05:15
Jucatoofftopic 4 (for) offtopic05:15
Jucatoafaik05:15
Dr_williso4o sort of looks like a little car. :)05:16
bazhangwe can talk about time travel so there's that :}05:16
Dr_williso4=o=05:16
Dr_willispickup truck. :)05:16
* Dr_willis is tired.05:16
popecan someone explain why debian seems so natural to use, but gentoo seems...not bad, but less smooth?05:17
Dr_willispope,  thats a 'feature' of gentoo :)05:17
Dr_willisIt keeps out the riff-raff05:17
bazhanguse flags?05:17
Daisuke_Idodebian's aim is stability, gentoo's aim is bleeding-edge05:17
Jucatopope:  think of fastfood vs. cooking on your own05:17
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: Gentoo's fairly stable if you stay w/in the stable tree05:17
Jucato(like any other distro)05:18
Dr_willisFast food vs.. killing the cow, grinding the beef,  building the stove....05:18
Jucatonah... that's LFS :P05:18
Dr_willisThen realizeing you cant cook becayse you frogot the --usepropane flag05:18
Dr_willis:)05:18
Jucatohahah05:18
bazhanghehe05:18
Dr_willisLFS  is 'read/cut/paste/wait/read' repeate05:18
Dr_willis:)05:18
popei agree with that summary...when i realised that every package had to be downlaoded, compiled, then installed05:18
bazhangkde only 22 hrs05:19
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Jucatopope: that's the feature (advantage/disadvantage) of source-based distros.05:19
Dr_willisI used gentoo for a long time.. Till one day they had  "Linux Journel" magazines in the portage tree.. that had to be 'unmasked' to get installed...05:19
Dr_willisThen i got sick of it. :)05:19
popei think i would like it more (i like sabayon for lots of other reasons already) once i'm more familiar with linux as a whole05:19
Jucatobut we're not here to discuss about other distros :)05:19
popetrue05:20
bazhangso will kubuntu be getting a livecd with kde4--it just seems fitting05:20
Dr_willisSabayon lasted 1 day on my machine.. :)05:20
Jucatobazhang: yeah. that's one of the plans05:20
popedoes Linus Torval(spelling) just work on the kernel, or does he help develop any of the gui's or distros?05:21
bazhangfinal release fingers crossed05:21
bazhangcheers Jucato05:21
Dr_willispope,  he focuses on the kernel i belive.05:21
Jucatopope: kernel and on git05:21
JucatoDr_willis: don't forget the Git :P05:21
Dr_willis'git' what a name...05:21
Dr_willis:)05:21
hydrogen!you git!05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you git! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
Jucatoyeah, he has quite a sense of humor :)05:21
popeGit?05:21
Dr_willis!git05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:22
Jucato!info git05:22
ubotugit: GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.20-11 (gutsy), package size 259 kB, installed size 992 kB05:22
Jucatoer not that05:22
Dr_willisHeh05:22
Dr_willis!gentoo05:22
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)05:22
Dr_willis!find gentoo05:22
ubotuFound: gentoo05:22
maduserRandom Fortune: Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) -- Unknown source05:22
Jucatopope: it's a source control management system, like CVS, SVN, Bazaar, etc05:22
popei was reading is wikipedia entry, it's amazes me he didn't go the way of apple and ms, and kept it open05:22
Dr_williswhat he made was a bit harder to sell :)05:22
hydrogenmm05:23
Jucatonot really :)05:23
hydrogenmaduser: that fortune is kind of misleading05:23
Jucatopope: http://git.or.cz/05:23
maduseri just typed in "/exec fortune"05:23
popei think what ms and apple made sold us short, we (collectively) gave up our rights to our own machines05:23
Jucatopope: he actually made it because before Git, the kernel guys had to use a proprietary product called BitKeeper05:23
hydrogenbecause unless you personally have read and understood every single line of code in an operating system you have the source for, it doesn't make the open source system more trustworthy05:23
Jucatohydrogen: I think the fortunes were made to be funny, not taken seriously :)05:24
madusertrue05:24
Dr_willis personally ? Thats what we pay CS majors for! :)05:24
Dr_willisfortune | cowsay   -> great in your .bashrc05:24
prestonGHEY UMM....i was reading news from linux.org...and they said apple was less secure then windows vista05:25
prestonGi was like....NO WAY!!!05:26
hydrogenand uhm05:26
popeso...not to be a downer...what happens to the kernel development and 'git' (i'm reading the link now) when Linus passes on? Is their a 'vice-linus'?05:26
hydrogenwhat does that have to do with kubuntu?05:26
maduser?05:26
hydrogenpope: someone will step up05:26
popei'm just curious05:26
hydrogenpope: or someone won't05:26
holycowthe same as now05:26
holycowits gpl'd05:26
hydrogenlinus is only a small part of the kernel community05:26
holycowthe universe goes on05:26
hydrogenhe's just the head honcho05:26
hydrogenthat coordinates everythign05:26
popea ceo...without a company..so to speak05:27
bazhangdoes dolphin allow for video previews? reading around it seems not to05:27
popethat would be sweet if it did05:27
maduseri don't think do05:27
prestonGhttp://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/02/bill-gates-fights-back-against-evil.html05:27
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prestonGif you guys wanna go check it out i think thats the websight05:28
Jucatobazhang: what do you mean by video preview?05:28
bazhangprestonG: want to join #kubuntu-offtopic?05:28
Jucatoyes please do :)05:28
hydrogenoh man05:28
hydrogenit was said on the blogoverse?05:28
hydrogenit must be true05:28
bazhangJucato: I mean like in Konqueror--a small clip of the vid you mouse over ala photos, text, etc.05:28
Jucatobazhang: ah inline previews? no I don't think so05:29
bazhangJucato: that's what I thought--thanks. just reading the kubuntu-users mailing list at lists.ubuntu.com very interesting :}05:29
prestonGby the way...in trying to get my 32 bit firefox to load when i hit a link in pidgin.... so i go to the browser tab...and i dont know how to make it load my 32 bit firefox05:30
MagicCowyopo seed05:30
prestonGit says something like %s05:30
prestonGso im like05:30
prestonGfirefox32%s05:30
prestonGand nothing05:30
prestonGlol05:30
prestonGanyone have ideas05:30
bazhangprestonG: try not to use the enter key as punctuation... :}05:31
* Jucato doesn't use Pidgin... no idea...05:31
Jucato!enter05:31
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:31
Dr_willisfirefox32 %S makes more sence05:31
Dr_willisnote the Space.05:31
Dr_willistry just 'firefox32'05:31
prestonGin the thing its a lowercase s05:31
prestonGi did05:31
prestonGnada05:32
Dr_willisthe %s is a way of saying "this command + these options"05:32
Jucatoput a space between "firefox32" and "%s"?05:32
Dr_willisIs the command even firefox32? try just firefox05:32
hydrogenis firefox32 the name of the binary?05:32
Jucatois "firefox32" the name of the executable file?05:32
Jucatobah he's faster...05:32
hydrogeni win!05:32
prestonGwhen i typed in the konsol firefox32 it loaded05:33
Dr_willisi dont even mess with 64bit disrto. :)05:33
prestonGyea but isnt it faster??????05:33
hydrogenno05:33
Dr_willisprestonG,  i doubt it.05:33
prestonGmor processing at once05:33
hydrogeno05:33
hydrogenno05:33
Dr_willisWhats the browserdoing that needs more processing...05:33
Dr_willis firefox32 is the 32bit version of the browser also.. Is MY guess...05:34
prestonGwell i like to use...mupen...which i havent tested yet...05:34
hydrogenunless you have >4gb of ram, or happen to use your computer to be calculating the answer to the universe in the background, 64 bit will gain you absolutely nothing.05:34
klobsterHi everyone I have questions about configuring dual head monitors (I am aware of the unsupported nvidia driver issues).05:34
Dr_willisSome programs may make use of 64bit sized #'s - but not a lot on a normal desktop machine will05:34
hydrogen!ask | klobster05:34
ubotuklobster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:34
prestonGand if i play with mupen wont my games run faster05:34
prestonG??05:35
prestonGwith a 64 bit05:35
prestonGkubuntu05:35
hydrogenno.05:35
Dr_willisprestonG,  whats mupen?05:35
hydrogenno no no.05:35
bazhang!twinview | klobster05:35
ubotuklobster: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead05:35
Dr_willisI use twinview all the time. :)05:35
klobsterI need to know if it is possible to set up a cloned view of my monitor to a widescreen and have the crt monitor pan the the larger image (like a virtual screen size?)05:35
Dr_willisusing it right now in fact. :)05:35
Dr_willisklobster,  yes that is possible.05:35
klobsterthanks for twinview options, i already set that part up05:35
Dr_willisklobster,  i had my TV out that way. ( i had to figure out how to makeit NOT do that. ) :)05:35
Dr_williswithout the 'paning' you can have 'dead' areas of the display that you cant really see.05:36
klobsterDr_willis: excellent.  any pointers?05:36
Dr_willisklobster,  thers dozens of twinview guides/examples on google. the GENTOO wikis are very good also with examples. And a read of the actual NVIDIA docs is worth doing05:37
Dr_willisOf course theres the nvidia config tools that may do exactly what you need.  :)05:37
Dr_willisnvidia-settings05:37
klobsterDr_willis:  I have been pretty extensively searching them (that's how I got everything set up to begin with), but i can't find the panning info05:37
Dr_willisI recall a very detailed example xorg.conf on the gentoo wikis for that stuff.  lots of comments also05:38
Dr_williswell its bed time here. Night all05:39
klobsterI ran nvidia-settings --twinview, but it didn't change it.  I feel like their is a screen0 "panning" option that i am just missing somewhere.  I will hit the gentoo wikis.  the problem is that most people want to use both side by side, not one or other, so i end up with ALOT of false leads.  thanks!05:39
MagicCowStrigi is a file search tool right?05:39
MagicCow!strigi05:40
ubotuServices to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)05:40
bazhangyes05:40
MagicCowDoes it not search for folder names?05:40
MagicCowI was looking for my "The Band" cd that I just ripped.. not sure where it was ripped to, strigi didn't find it.05:40
* Tm_T does his mad cow -dance05:40
brad__i have just installed gutsy but my sound from my mic is very low, how can I increase the volume of my mic?05:43
bazhangbrad__: have you checked kmix?05:44
brad__nope, I'll do that now05:45
bazhangsmall speaker icon in the panel05:46
tuxwulf5n Kubuntu is there sth like System Manager as in Ubuntu?05:46
Tm_Ttuxwulf: ksysguard ?05:48
brad__i have bumped up a bunch of them but it doesn't change anything05:48
tuxwulfTim > ... Oh ...Okay, thanks!05:49
Tm_Ttuxwulf: who's Tim ?05:49
tuxwulfTm_T > You -- sorry, bad eyesight ....05:50
Tm_T=)05:50
Tm_Ttuxwulf: np very typical mistake :p05:51
rickeyi have a very hard time reading i have bad eyes06:20
rickey dose kubuntu have a texr reader?06:21
rickeyclass is that a know?06:22
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posingaspopularrickey: what do you mean by text reader?06:22
posingaspopularyou want to increase the font size... or?06:23
rickeya program that well read the text on your desktop06:23
rickeyyou know ,make blind pepole use06:24
rickeywindow has them ,i am sure linux dose too06:24
sarahello06:24
sarafuny question i know...off topic, i just got a fish tank. should the light be left on over night or turned off?06:25
saraand yes i use linux06:25
Tm_Tsara: well thats very offtopic =)06:26
rickeysara fish need a natural cycle too06:26
sarasurely the odd other topic creeps in06:26
MagicCowBut you have a girls name, so it will slide.06:26
rickeyyes turn ligth off at nigth06:26
Tm_Tsara: and if you ask from me, just imagine someone keeps bright light on your eyes all night...06:26
Tm_TMagicCow: er?06:26
saramagic thanks for the favortism06:26
sarathanks06:27
MagicCowAs a tall, white, male.. I should not have all of the privelage.06:27
Tm_TMagicCow: what you're saying?06:27
sarakubuntu is running so nicely for me i have no questions only happy computing vibes06:27
rickeywell i still need help06:28
Tm_Tsara: feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic then for general chatters ;)06:28
rickey i am blind06:28
MagicCowTm_T: I am in a "Racism Awareness" course. They talk about how I get a lot of privelage for being a tall, white, male.06:28
* MagicCow shrugs.06:28
rickey and need to find kubuntu,s text to voice program06:28
Tm_TMagicCow: thats offtopic06:28
saraokay well thats lame . but i'll rember to stricly say nothing but kubuntu questions or answers in here06:28
Tm_Trickey: ksayit06:28
sarai'll try anyways06:28
MagicCowExactly.06:28
Tm_Tsara: its not lame06:28
Tm_Tsara: its just for keeping this channel easy for helping issues06:29
sarais it okay to ask how someones doing? or is that off topc ?  : )06:29
Tm_Tsara: its very ok06:29
MagicCowIf it is quickly followed up by a kubuntu question.06:29
Tm_TMagicCow: dont troll06:30
sarathanks for the help sorry to ask a non-kubuntu question, goodnight06:30
Tm_Tum06:30
MagicCowTroll? I am unfamiliar with this internet term.06:30
Tm_TMagicCow: in this case, dont push that matter any further06:30
MagicCow!troll06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:30
Tm_T!guidelines > MagicCow06:31
MagicCowI didn't see it there.06:32
MagicCowOh, there it is.06:32
compu73rg33kwhat pass # shoudl I give /boot in my /etc/fstab? I have / /boot /usr and /home partitions06:33
mohsenhello.06:44
lenovohello everybody06:44
mohsenbye06:45
lenovo有没有人用edu 桌面?好用么?06:46
mehey guys :)06:46
Tm_Thi06:46
meWhat's the best way to communicate with a skype user (i run kubuntu 64bit)06:46
Tm_TIIRC only way is; Skype06:46
lenovo在KDE中,我选择English做系统默认语言,中文显示有些问题,应该用什么字体?06:47
Jucatolenovo: English only please (as in English characters too)06:48
lenovomy english is pool06:49
Jucatowhat is your language?06:49
lenovono body use chinese?06:50
lenovochinese06:50
Jucato!cn | lenovo06:50
ubotulenovo: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk06:50
lenovoThanks for everybody06:50
posingaspopularJucato: how do i turn off the system beep?06:55
Jucatoposingaspopular: in Konsole?06:55
JucatoSettings -> Bell -> None06:55
posingaspopularno the system beep, like if I try to close something without saving... mess something up in konsole, etc06:57
Jucatoah... System Settings -> Notifications -> System Notifications -> KDE System Notifications06:57
Jucatoposingaspopular: just play with the settings there....06:59
Jucatoand go to sleep :P06:59
posingaspopularsweet06:59
posingaspopularnope! im outling my courses for the next semesters07:00
Jucatoalready?07:00
posingaspopularthinking of majoring in CS and i have maths to slay07:00
Jucatoaaah07:00
posingaspopularwell the next month or so is just finals cram month07:00
posingaspopularlike.. 6 papers due,5 tests, etc.07:00
posingaspopularno time after the finals to do the job effectivly so...07:01
posingaspopularhmm im still getting system beeps. from pidgin when i try to backspace when there is no text07:02
Jucatoah duh! :P07:02
JucatoPidgin != KDE app07:03
Jucatoso don't expect it to obey KDE rules :D07:03
MagicCowIs there a way to fake having windows XP sp 2 from xubuntu? Say if I were trying to watch streaming video, and that were a requirement.07:05
posingaspopularJucato: upstream!07:06
kblinmorning folks07:10
tuxwulfOh I have a question I have been wondering about for ages. Sometimes references show sth like "See 'hotplug(8) for details.". What does that mean exacty, and what does the (8) stand for? I have often seen this with regard to man pages; .e. "man hotplug(8)"....07:13
kblinyesterday, the updater pulled in network manager. that seems to have broken the default network settings. now, when the box comes backup from e.g. suspend, network manager always decides to wait for dhcp packets on eth0, where not even a cable is connected, as opposed to reconnect to the wireless network it was on via eth1 before07:14
kblintuxwulf: that's a category for man pages07:14
kblintuxwulf: you can read them by entering man 8 hotplug in a terminal07:14
tuxwulfkblin: Ah, like that .. great, thanks!07:15
kblintuxwulf: 8 is a "manuals" section, iirc07:16
kblintuxwulf: there might be another manpage for hotplug in e.g. the programming section (just making that one up, but there are examples)07:17
kblinso usually "man something" will do the right thing07:17
kblinbut if it's ambigious man 3 something will get the "something" manpage from section 3 specifically07:18
Jucatokblin, tuxwulf: typing man:/ in konqueror will give you a list of what the sections stand for07:18
* Jucato hopes the original man command had something like that...07:19
kblinand if you reference it from some text, convention is to write something(3)07:19
kblinJucato: ah. I never really used that.. nifty07:20
tuxwulfkblin > I see...! Thanks! ... Wow that's great ...07:20
tuxwulfso.. section 8 - the one I am looking for - is the crazy section...?07:20
JucatoSys Admin section07:20
tuxwulfOh n, Konqueror says SysAd07:20
tuxwulfAh yes... Thanks!07:21
tuxwulf!wireless > tuxwulf07:37
Jucatotuxwulf: you could also just PM the bot :)07:38
tuxwulfJucato > PM means I won't bother anyone here?07:43
Jucatoyou won't  break the flow of the Join and Parts (a.k.a. the silence) :P07:44
Jucatotuxwulf: it means you can msg the bot in private to your heart's content :)07:44
tuxwulfok, goody...!07:44
kblintuxwulf: "/msg ubotu wireless" would do the same07:44
kblinwithout anybody knowing you ever asked... apart from the bot,of course07:45
* Netham45 is off to bed07:48
krautmoin07:55
[ifr0g]!find vncrec08:10
ubotuPackage/file vncrec does not exist in gutsy08:10
[ifr0g]:(08:11
[ifr0g]!find vncrec feisty08:11
ubotuPackage/file vncrec does not exist in feisty08:11
jussi01[ifr0g]: what are you looking for?08:15
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henghahi, for some reason super key + Tab does not work in shift switcher of compiz fusion, any idea ? I am on gusty08:17
Jucatoperhaps the keyboard shortcut has been changed. try asking in #compiz-fusion08:18
[ifr0g]jussi01, Some way to record the desktop !08:18
henghaJucato: ok, thanks08:19
jussi01!info recordmydesktop08:19
Jucato!info krecordmydesktop08:19
Jucatohahah :)08:19
uboturecordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB08:19
ubotukrecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB08:19
jussi01lol08:19
jussi01[ifr0g]: ^08:19
[ifr0g]wooo !! :O08:20
[ifr0g]KDE ROCKS :)08:20
[ifr0g]jussi01, tx08:20
jussi01[ifr0g]: also thank Jucato ;)08:20
Jucato:)08:20
[ifr0g]:P Jucato tx08:21
at0m1cb0mb3rcan somebodsy please help me :[ i put my computer into hibernate then i tried to bring it out of hibernate like ten minutes later and it was at a black screen with a white line in the top left cornor then after that i tried holding my start button down to restart my computer and then now everytime i startt up it say like checking disks but it doesnt show a percent and it says disc has been mounted 34 times without being check check08:26
at0m1cb0mb3rforced then it gets stuck so what can i do08:26
at0m1cb0mb3ri hope i dont have to reinstall again08:26
at0m1cb0mb3rPleaseee help me please08:29
at0m1cb0mb3rplease08:33
emilsedgh!repeat | at0m1cb0mb3r08:34
ubotuat0m1cb0mb3r: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience08:34
at0m1cb0mb3remilsedgh: i did ugh i just want it fixed08:35
emilsedghat0m1cb0mb3r: sure, everyone wants everything fixed, but repeating doesnt help, wait a bit or search google08:36
emilsedghat0m1cb0mb3r: what happens when wait for it to check?08:36
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at0m1cb0mb3rit just sits there08:39
at0m1cb0mb3remilsedgh: it just sits there08:40
Surge_I've just installed Gutsy - how does one get KDE to save the window positions of apps? I'm running a twinview setup and it's a pain having to drag apps between the windows and maximize them everytime.08:40
emilsedghat0m1cb0mb3r: im sure searching will help you08:40
at0m1cb0mb3remilsedgh: ive been searching for the past 30 minutes on google08:40
emilsedghSurge_: right click on title->advanced->Special Window Settings08:41
at0m1cb0mb3remilsedgh: i think i found a solution but i dont know if its right for me cause i dont even get a loading line08:41
Tm_Tat0m1cb0mb3r: and how long it does check it?08:42
emilsedghat0m1cb0mb3r: dunno :)08:42
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: there isnt a loading line how can i get the last thing it did?08:42
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: so i can show you what it says08:42
Tm_Tno idea08:43
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: i thought that a error code would show it08:44
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: it just like says /dev/sdc1 has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced.08:44
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: then i forget after that08:45
at0m1cb0mb3rTm_T: how do i run a disk check from my live cd08:45
WaltzingAlong!fsck08:46
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot08:46
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[ifr0g]Printer prints and hangs ?? any idea why ?09:19
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tuxwulfHow do I prevent Korganizer from starting its daemon?09:50
soonKDE -> System settings -> Advanced -> System services09:52
soontry in there tuxwulf09:52
tuxwulfsoon: ... Does not see t appear in there ....09:56
soonwhat is the deamon called?10:07
tuxwulfKOrganizer10:08
tuxwulfStarts with Kontact, I think ...?10:08
emilsedghsoon: daemon of what?10:08
Jucatokorgac10:08
tuxwulfno ko* is listed in the services list10:09
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tuxwulfIn the systray I have de-selected the option in Korganizer daemon to autostart, but it does so anyway10:11
fandubuntuhi10:11
fandubuntuhow are you?10:11
fandubuntuis there any french here?10:11
Jucato!fr | fandubuntu10:12
ubotufandubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:12
Jucatotuxwulf: go to /usr/share/autostart/, edit the file korgac.desktop (kdesu kate korgac.desktop)10:14
Jucatochange "X-KDE-autostart-condition=korgacrc:General:Autostart:true" to "false"10:14
tuxwulfJucato: Done. Thanks... Gee.. loads of languages in there ..10:17
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fandubuntujucato, fr? you said, didn't you?10:19
Jucato<ubotu> fandubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:19
fandubuntui don't want help in french10:19
fandubuntulol10:19
fandubuntuit's just to know10:19
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Jucatoit's also to tell you that the french channels are there, where most french-speaking people are, which is what you asked10:20
fandubuntuok10:20
fandubuntuthx10:20
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ChristianBachHi, i just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu on a desktop computer yesterday. The installation finished > reboot > grub error 15. Is this a know issue?10:34
ChristianBachversion 7.1010:34
dappermuisChristianBach: i've seen it before, just tring to remeber what it is10:34
senorpedrois it safe to update from a working 7.04 to 7.10? i'm asking because i'm a lazy boy and dont want much computer-trouble10:35
WaltzingAlongsenorpedro: sure10:35
WaltzingAlongfile not found?10:35
ChristianBachdappermuis: yeah i looked to the forums and only found it to be related to sata drives, i only have a ide hd in this comp.10:36
ChristianBachhowever installing ubuntu 7.10 worked.10:36
WaltzingAlongChristianBach: so change the lines from /dev/hdx to /dev/sdx10:36
dappermuisChristianBach, did you do a fresh install?10:37
ChristianBachyes.10:37
dappermuishmmm, and did you tell grub to set itself up?10:37
ChristianBachyes, i run both the live cd and the alternative.10:37
ChristianBachsame error after reboot.10:38
WaltzingAlonggrub is looking for something but not finding it10:38
ChristianBachthe thing is that the ubuntu installation worked, that the thing that puzzels me.10:38
dappermuisChristianBachL yes it is weird, though an update-grub will probably fix it10:39
ChristianBachok!10:40
WaltzingAlongChristianBach: did you set the partitions manually?10:40
Siggihungary?10:40
ChristianBachWaltzingAlong: nope guided.10:40
ChristianBachWaltzingAlong: using the hole disk.10:40
ChristianBachWaltzingAlong: and using the latest live cd and alternative cd.10:41
WaltzingAlongsure would be interesting to learn the cause10:41
WaltzingAlong!hungarian10:41
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál10:41
ChristianBachWaltzingAlong: yeah it would, it's the first "clean" installation of 7.10 i have done. the rest of office just updated from 7.0410:43
ChristianBachand that worked fine.10:43
amundsenhi10:49
dappermuislo10:49
amundseni'm having some problem with my kdm resolution10:50
dappermuishmmm, afraid i cant help you with that10:50
amundsenit seems to be slower10:50
amundsenslower than the one that has been set in the xorg.conf file10:51
tomazslower or lower?10:51
amundsensorry10:51
amundsenlower10:51
tomazah, i was trying to understand =P10:51
tomazwell,  i think that it's choosing the default resolution and applying it10:51
amundsenthe kde environment seems to be ok with this problem10:51
tomazyou can try to reconfigure your xorg by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'10:52
amundseni mean, that i have different resolutions for kde and kdm10:52
amundsentomaz: i've already done that10:52
tomazand then, kill the xserver (ctrl + alt + backspace)10:52
tomazhm...10:52
tomazso, you have all the knowledge that i possess.,10:52
tomazi shall not he able to help thee.10:52
amundsenand i also tried to configure it trough the system control center10:52
tomazi'm sorry.10:52
WaltzingAlong!kdm11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:06
tomaz!theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything11:09
tomazwhattahell? he doesn't know that this is 42.11:09
WaltzingAlong!anything11:12
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.11:12
Dencrypt!lure11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:13
rixxonKNetworkManager doesn't list any networks, wire or wireless11:16
tomazand how are you on irc? o_O11:17
WaltzingAlongrixxon: remove the ethx lines from /etc/network/interfaces            you can just comment them out with a # at the front11:17
rixxoniface or auto lines?11:18
WaltzingAlongrixxon: all that reference eth1 or eth0 or so on11:18
tomazpeople, can i use GDM themes on KDM?11:19
WaltzingAlongrixxon: feel free to lease references to device 'lo' though11:19
rixxoniface worked, thanks11:20
WaltzingAlongtomaz: not that i know11:21
WaltzingAlongrixxon: correct, leave the "auto ethx" lines but remove the rest (or comment them out)11:23
Tm_Tyyy: why root?11:25
WaltzingAlongTm_T: ?11:26
yyyhello11:26
Tm_TWaltzingAlong: yes?11:26
WaltzingAlonggreetings11:26
sp1ntercan some one tell me if you can get rid of the created on and modified on under the pictures in digikam11:28
tomazWaltzingAlong: hm... they work =D , just installed by hand one gdm theme on the kdm folder.11:28
tomazamazing.11:28
WaltzingAlonggreat ;)11:28
Greeneryif i want to reboot from recovery mode safely and also save any changes made what's the estension reboot command?11:29
yyyalgum brasileiro aqui???11:30
Tm_Tyyy: only english here11:31
Tm_Tyyy: also, why you are in irc as root?11:31
yyyyes11:32
WaltzingAlongGreenery: ctrl+d ?11:32
yyyim11:32
Tm_Tyyy: I asked why11:33
Greeneryctrl+d during recovery mode?11:33
yyymy pc is testing......11:33
Tm_Tyyy: no thats not explanation, son :)11:33
Tm_Tyyy: let me rephrase: you shouldnt irc as root unless you really have to (there's should not be any reason to)11:34
yyysorry my inglish................11:34
Tm_Tyyy: you're doing fine :)11:35
yyyyou from????????11:35
Tm_T!br | yyy11:36
ubotuyyy: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.11:36
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Tm_T!away > dcpt|afk11:36
dcpt|afkI'm not away11:37
dcpt|afkI'm afk11:37
WaltzingAlongdcpt|afk: changing your nick in a busy channel makes the channel busier, especially for those who have not (yet) configured their irc client to hide such changes in the channel or put them into the status window11:38
yyyonde?11:40
Tm_Tdcpt|afk: umm, mind to change your awaynick off and stay that way?11:42
sp1nterany one know if you can get rid of the created on and modified on under the pictures in digikam11:42
yyy??11:43
tomazyyy: look the pvt with me11:43
Saiedemilsedgh: kdenetwork kojast roo svn?11:46
Tm_TSaied: english please11:47
mooperwhy does firefox keep dissapearing?11:47
yyyopa11:47
tomaz(sorry for the portuguese on the next line, but it seems necessary for yyy)11:47
SaiedTm_T: :D11:47
Tm_Ttomaz: np, please go ahead11:48
tomazyyy, não fala em português aqui. olha o que eu escrevi pra você na conversa privada.11:48
yyyentendi11:48
yyyok11:48
tomazTim: thanks ;)11:48
Tm_Ttomaz: who's Tim?11:49
tomazTm_T, sorry, i thought i there was a 'i' on the middle of your name.11:49
tomazjust woke up ;)11:50
Tm_Thaha11:50
rixxon(thanks WaltzingAlong, worked.)11:52
jussi01Hei all, how do i back up my mail in kmail?11:53
Tm_Tjussi01: copy your mail dir11:53
Tm_Tdunno other way :(11:54
jussi01Tm_T: where is that?11:54
rixxonWhen I connect to a OpenVPN via KNetworkManager, it resets DNS servers so I can't resolve anything. I have set dhclient.conf to supersede domain-name-servers which normally works fine, but apparently not with VPN.11:54
tomazprobably in ~/.kde/, some folder with the name of kmail11:54
Tm_Tjussi01: ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ or so11:54
jussi01thanks11:54
WaltzingAlongrixxon: great11:56
WaltzingAlongrixxon: i have an openvpn client on here but not configured through knetworkmanager11:57
rixxonWaltzingAlong: well I don't even know if I did the dhclient.conf thing right but it seems to work except for with VPN11:59
rixxonI was annoyed by network-manager constantly going back to ISP dns servers while I wanted a different set11:59
rixxonI removed domain-name-servers from the "request" line and added a "supersede domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4, 4.3.2.1;" line12:00
rixxonFor some reason, it just resets name servers to none, when connecting to this VPN12:01
tuxwulfJucato: KOrganizer started again anyway...12:01
tuxwulfOh well.. not a big deal ....12:01
sek414in privato qualcuno mi potrebbe dare una mano con amsn12:13
Tm_T!pt | sek41412:13
Jucato!it12:14
JucatoTm_T :P12:14
ubotusek414: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.12:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:14
Damethhi12:14
sek414ok sorry bye12:14
Damethany1 with a compaq 6720s here?12:15
Damethany help installing kubuntu on Compaq 6720s please? my ethernet port/link doesn't forward any traffic :S12:18
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adesamsn don't work correctly.. someone can help me in pvt?12:22
frightymoin12:25
Tm_Tmoinmoin12:25
vesimaenaudiomoi12:25
Jucatomediawiki :P12:26
wershow's syncing sony erricsson p900i with KDE?12:26
wers:D12:26
Jucatowers: hm.. you might want to check if #kmobiletools is still alive btw...12:27
Jucato(sorry just slipped my mind...)12:27
werswoww.. OSD. hahaha12:27
werssaw it for the first time12:27
wershahaha12:27
Jucatoheh12:27
wersI meant, konvi osd12:27
wershaha12:27
Jucatoyeah I know ;P12:28
mac__Sorry to bother you guys with such a simple question but how do I set an application to handle a specific extension?12:40
mac__I mean how do I set a peferred application12:40
WaltzingAlongmac__: in konqueror right mouse click the file, select open with, then find the program, click 'always use this app'12:40
mac__thanks12:41
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WaltzingAlongmac__: you can also change the file associations through kcontrol;12:42
mac__perfect.  Thanks for the help WaltzingAlong12:43
WaltzingAlongcheers12:44
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poison--mornin12:48
* Jucato dies of poison--...12:48
WaltzingAlongafternoon!12:49
poison--lmao12:50
poison--still 10:49 AM here12:50
poison--anyone havin issues with firefox freezing when open several tabs with java?12:51
Tm_Tnot me12:52
Tm_Tpoison--: btw if youre just doing poll, there's better ways than asking in irc12:52
poison--poll?12:52
tsb_When I connect to a POSIX box the input with some special characters are entered with 2 letters. This does not happen at home - both run kubuntu 7.10 and en_US.UTF8. Any idea how to fix this?12:53
Tm_Tpoison--: well thus far you just asked "anyone having issues about foo?"12:53
Tm_Ttsb_: because posix is not utf-812:53
poison--well, maybe someone is havin some problem and can help me, is asking a crime?12:53
tsb_Tm_T: I know - but it is still strange that it works from home, using en_US.UTF812:53
Tm_Tpoison--: no, but you didnt ask help =)12:53
Tm_Ttsb_: different settings somewhere?12:54
poison--didnt know there were rules about how to ask for help12:54
poison--:D12:54
tsb_Tm_T: which settings matter? locale gives identical output - what else should I check?12:54
bucatoamano!ot12:54
Tm_Tpoison--: there isnt, but your way isnt doing very good job ;)12:54
Tm_Tbucatoamano: what is offtopic?12:54
Tm_Ttsb_: Konsole settings12:54
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:55
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WaltzingAlongtsb_: konsole settings, which terminal to emulate12:55
bucatoamanoTm_T: it was for me12:55
schisteHey, I've got a godamn problem with my sound card12:55
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Tm_Tbucatoamano: then /msg ubotu offtopic12:56
schisteWell, my sound card isn't working12:56
Tm_T!ohmy | schiste12:56
ubotuschiste: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.12:56
schiste?12:56
schisteFor godman? mwarf12:56
schisteanyway12:56
poison--ohh my...12:56
schistekmix isn't showing anything up12:56
bucatoamano!say ot to bucatoamano12:56
schistelsmod have the usual snd mod12:57
WaltzingAlongschiste: which soundcard? to pastebin, results of lspci      and aplay -l12:57
schistek :)12:57
bucatoamano!ot12:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:57
Tm_Tbucatoamano: dont fish a bot here12:57
bazhangbucatoamano: we get the idea12:57
bucatoamanoTm_T: i didnt remember the name of the channell -.- it's for me12:57
Tm_Tbucatoamano: 1455 < Tm_T> bucatoamano: then /msg ubotu offtopic12:58
Tm_Tbucatoamano: and you keep fishing, one time is ok, several isnt12:58
bazhangbucatoamano: you can PM  the bot--and not flood the channel12:58
WaltzingAlongbucatoamano: /msg the bot with your request  such as         /msg ubuntu !ot12:58
schisteWaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.com/m26af724812:58
schisteaplay -l says no sound card found12:58
Tm_TWaltzingAlong: I already said that, you dont need to repeat me12:58
bucatoamanoTm_T: -.- in my channel i have that ubot , to say to me the name of the channel was that command line12:58
bazhangoops sorry Tm_T12:58
Tm_Tbucatoamano: you're not making much sense there, pal12:59
WaltzingAlong!audio12:59
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:59
bucatoamanoTm_T: -.- you are not making much sense, i did not remember what' was the name of the channel off topic so i asked to ubot. and stop13:00
Tm_Tbucatoamano: you asked it several times, not one13:01
WaltzingAlongschiste: check the troubleshooting section         and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto13:01
Tm_Tbucatoamano: even after I told you the way to do it outside this channel13:01
bucatoamanoTm_T: are you a bit crazy or spammer ? 2 time the secondo because koversation has crashed13:01
schisteWaltzingAlong: troubleshooting section in the url you gave me ? :)13:02
Tm_TI'm op13:02
bucatoamanoTm_T: well13:02
bucatoamanoand if korversation has crashed what do you want13:02
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WaltzingAlongpower hungry one it seems, considering the massive traffic in the channel at present13:02
WaltzingAlong!audio | schiste yes the hdaintel sound howto and the soundtroubleshooting13:03
ubotuschiste yes the hdaintel sound howto and the soundtroubleshooting: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:03
poison--ive been in this chan for 3 months, and never was nagged like that13:03
schiste:D thanks WaltzingAlong I check it out :)13:03
WaltzingAlongschiste: it may be as easy as manually specifying the parameters (on the hda intel sound howto link)13:04
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judecan gnome play DVD?13:27
WaltzingAlong!dvd13:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs13:28
judethanks13:28
xtatichi13:28
xtaticcan i ask u something?13:28
wietsedvd? totem isn't it?13:29
biovore!totem13:29
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs13:29
WaltzingAlongxtatic: yes13:30
xtaticlook guys... its my 1st time on linux and generally i dont know anything abt linux.. i want to send something from my mobile to my pc.. i put the disk to install the Bluetooth Device.. i double click on Setup.. and a table appears in front of me... i have to choose one of the chooses that says .. like System , Internet , Graphics , Office , Utillities , Multimedia... which one shall i click on?13:31
WaltzingAlong!bluetooth13:31
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup13:31
xtaticthanks13:32
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, I have been running Kubuntu 7.10 on my PC.  The screen saver will activate which is all fine.  About 1/2 hour later when I try to use the pc, Xorg is using about 92% of processor resources and would never respond.  I click something and itfreezes.  I alway end up killing the X server with a ctrl+alt+backspace.  How can I correct this... It doesn't happen with gentoo or mepis...13:36
gundam_rx78nt1It doesn't matter what screen saver I use, opengl or the "old" style screen savers.13:36
bazhanggundam_rx78nt1: how about setting screensaver to blank while you figure out the problem13:37
judecan linox use windows live ?13:38
bazhanggundam_rx78nt1: what video card and which driver?13:38
gundam_rx78nt1bazhang, I believe that I had the same result with this also.13:38
gundam_rx78nt1I have an ATI9600XT13:38
bazhangjude: doubt it13:38
bazhangwhich driver gundam_rx78nt113:39
gundam_rx78nt1the latest loaded by the restricted drivers for 7.10.13:39
gundam_rx78nt1give me a minute13:39
judehow can i download google earth on linox13:40
jude?13:40
Jucato!info googleearth13:41
ubotuPackage googleearth does not exist in gutsy13:41
Jucatoer...13:41
Jucato!find googleearth13:41
bazhangjude: do you know how to use adept?13:41
ubotuFound: googleearth-package13:41
judeok13:41
Jucatothere13:41
Jucato!info googleearth-package13:41
ubotugoogleearth-package: utility to automatically build a Debian package of Google Earth. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.2.0 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB13:41
judeno13:41
WaltzingAlongjude: you can use that to build a .deb otherwise you can just install from the .bin from earth.google.com13:41
gundam_rx78nt1bazhang, I believe that it is the 8.42.13:41
bazhangjude: you should generally include someone's name if you want to get their attention13:42
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judeok13:42
sparr_how can i put my monitor into power saving mode and start my screensaver, immediately and intentionally?13:42
bazhanggundam_rx78nt1: how about leaving screensaver off as we try to solve this13:42
judeam new to this chat room13:42
judelol13:42
FuseboxEllenAfternoon everyone!13:43
bazhangjude: there is a software installer (called a package manager) named Adept with Kubuntu13:43
bazhanghi FuseboxEllen13:43
judeoh yea i know the manager13:43
bazhangjude: ok. open it up13:44
judeam on gnome now13:44
FuseboxEllenI'm having some difficulty with setting up wireless on my laptop, and after several attempts with Network manager and KWiFi manager, I'm conceeding defeat for now and asking for some help.13:44
bazhangFuseboxEllen: have you tried wicd?13:45
gundam_rx78nt1bazhang, ok, I will leave it off for now.13:45
gundam_rx78nt1Now, doesn't the acpi blank off the screen also?13:45
bazhangwicd.longren.com13:45
FuseboxEllenHmm, I haven't, no. At the moment, what I've done is: Installed the bcm43xx-fwcutter package so I could enable my Broadcomm wireless router, tried setting it up manually, and tried setting it up with KwiFi. On the KWiFi screen, it says that my network's access point is FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF, no local IP available, and signal strength of 0. Thanks for the link Bazhang.13:47
WaltzingAlongFuseboxEllen: results of iwconfig to pastebin, please13:47
WaltzingAlong!pastebin13:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:47
bazhangFuseboxEllen: have you tried setting it up via te command line13:47
bazhangerr the13:47
FuseboxEllenI'll just fetch that iwconfig list.13:48
shadowhywindSo here is a simple question. If i can not find my broadcom wireless device in lspci then chances are there is no power going to it correct?13:49
judemy Desktop Effects won't work,it says Desktop Effects could not be enabled13:49
judecan i do anything to fix it13:49
jude?13:49
FuseboxEllenOkay, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4366213:50
WaltzingAlongjude: check in #ubuntu since you are on ubuntu/gnome13:50
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | jude otherwise check here for the kubuntu howto; also check the channel and wiki13:50
WaltzingAlongFuseboxEllen: ok to start, if you can, best to try without encryption13:51
FuseboxEllenAlright, will just remove it now.13:51
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FuseboxEllenOkay, done that, I now have an access point, local Ip unavailable, it still says Out of Range, Signal Strength 0, AccessPoint: Uknown. In Knetworkmanager's connection status, it says no active device.13:54
judeCouldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager13:54
WaltzingAlongFuseboxEllen: it may help you to make your way through the cli;13:56
WaltzingAlong!wifi | FuseboxEllen13:56
ubotuFuseboxEllen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:56
FuseboxEllenThank you, I'll give it a shot.13:56
FuseboxEllenSorry to be a bother.13:56
bazhangFuseboxEllen: WaltzingAlong is really right--sometime you should try it via cli--it's not that hard--even I could learn it :}13:57
FuseboxEllenJust slightly intimidating, but heck, I'll give it a shot. One of the reasons I switched.13:57
bazhangFuseboxEllen: it's basically just cutting and pasting stuff that you pick up here, from ubuntuforums.org, and google; after a while you can just remember what to do--Ubuntu/Kubuntu is really not that hard to do it with.13:59
bazhangFuseboxEllen: the important commands are ifconfig, iwfconfig, dhclient14:00
WaltzingAlongFuseboxEllen: and sudo iwlist eth1 scanning14:00
Daisuke_Laptopthat's iwconfig rather than iwfconfig14:00
Daisuke_Laptopand while it may be cutting and pasting at first, the end goal is understanding why you're doing what you're doing with the CLI and starting to figure things out for yourself.14:01
WaltzingAlongDaisuke_Laptop: right. and doing it through the cli general produces more (helpful) feedback14:02
bazhangexcellent points Daisuke_Laptop | WaltzingAlong.14:02
WaltzingAlongFuseboxEllen: but of course ask back here as needed; more than happy to help14:03
FuseboxEllen*Nods* Which is what I've been wanting to do anyway. Getting to work on it now.14:04
bazhangoops my bad iwconfig14:04
bazhangnew keyboard...ugh14:05
Daisuke_Laptopbazhang: i know the feeling.  i've actually started using my laptop more than my desktop because i hate my keyboard in there14:07
Daisuke_Laptopwhen i was using windows and gaming, it was fine, but now it's unnecessary :)14:08
bazhangstill trying to adjust--the desktop is core2duo, so have to get it right :}14:08
Daisuke_Laptopturns out a saitek eclipse, when used from a slightly off-kilter angle as i have to at the desk i've got, is not a great keyboard.14:09
ScorpKingis there someone here that managed to make a custom usplash theme and got it working? i've tried a few guides online but i'm doing something wrong somewhere. can someone walk me through making a custom usplash theme? i have the usplash source for ubuntu but i don't know how to compile it into something that's working. :(14:10
Daisuke_Laptopi think imma install gentoo on the desktop someday :D14:11
rgreeningDaisuke_Laptop: go for it. You will learn a lot14:11
Daisuke_Laptoprgreening: there's too much at stake if i screw it up though :\14:12
Jucato!usplash14:12
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork14:12
rgreeningDaisuke_Laptop: Dual boot it. Then no issues. I have dual boot my laptop with Gentoo/Kubuntu14:13
JucatoScorpKing: found the instructions there? ^^^^14:13
rgreeningDaisuke_Laptop: you can always chroot between the tow if it messes up14:13
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ScorpKingJucato: i did that but i get an invalid theme and it only display text14:13
Jucatohm....14:13
ScorpKingthe default theme works but i want to make my own one14:14
bazhang 你们是那里人?14:15
viviahi, is there a howto for installing compiz on gutsy?14:15
bazhangoops wrong channel--sorry14:16
Jucato!compiz | vivia14:16
ubotuvivia: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion14:16
viviathx a lot :)14:16
bazhangscrolled out of #offtopic without noticing my bad :{14:16
poison--!barcode14:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about barcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:17
Lynourepoison--: what do you want to know?14:17
FuseboxEllenHmm... umm, where would I find the network manager package on the kubuntu CD?14:17
bazhangFuseboxEllen: it's called knetworkmanager is installed by default14:18
ScorpKingFuseboxEllen: not on the livecd14:18
poison--Lynoure, i have a massive computer production here, and i need to make barcoded stamps for each computer14:19
Daisuke_Laptopbazhang: konversation?  sometimes i'll get right above or below the text entry field and end up scrolling to another channel14:19
poison--i have a Argox OS214 barcode printer14:19
poison--heyyyyyyyy ScorpKing14:19
bazhangDaisuke_Laptop: yep :}14:19
ScorpKinghiya poison-- :)14:19
poison--sup14:19
bazhangfeel bad, with all the spamming here of late.14:20
Lynourepoison--: I don't know anything abouth the printer, though. sorry.14:20
ScorpKingpoison--: not much. kbarcode - barcode and label printing application14:20
poison--done it already, i just cant find a working driver for the printer14:20
poison--:(14:20
bazhangvivia: there are a few key packages to install, as well as getting the correct driver for your video card--are you ok with the command line?14:20
ScorpKing:(14:21
poison--gonna ask google :D14:21
ScorpKinggood luck. it's not showing much14:23
Daisuke_Laptopdrama over in #ubuntu...  i'm so glad i come here :)14:23
FuseboxEllenWhereabouts would I find knetworkmanager on the livecd then, cause I've lost my network connection completely now due to user error.14:23
LynoureFuseboxEllen: I don't think it is on the livecd... not sure, though14:24
jussi01!adeptfix14:24
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:24
rgreeningnetwork-manager-kde is the package14:24
rgreeningI believe14:24
ScorpKingrgreening: it's knetworkmanager14:26
jussi01hmmm, I getting this error when i use adeptfix: dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system anyone?14:26
rgreeningScorpKing: knetworkmanager is the name of the dummy package14:27
ScorpKingoh ok14:27
rgreeninglook in Adept :)14:27
ScorpKinglooking..14:27
rgreeningnetwork-manager + network-manager-kde are the two packages that go together to do the networking14:27
ScorpKingoh yeah - Provides: network-manager-kde14:27
rgreening:)14:28
FuseboxEllenSadly not working, it just says: dpkg: unknown option -o even though there is no -o...14:28
ScorpKingand it suck14:28
rgreeningnetwork-managwer works 100% fine here under all my systems, and under diff distros.14:29
ScorpKingFuseboxEllen: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager14:29
rgreeningThe kde addon is in its infantcy, but is still quite good14:29
ScorpKingrgreening: if you have dailup it tells kde there is no internet14:29
zyntaxsom1 know how to install wine14:29
rgreeningScorpKing: People stil using dial-up. Boy am I spoiled :)14:30
ScorpKinghehe.14:30
rgreeningScorpKing: There is a dial-up piece missing in the Kubuntu packaged version. Gentoo has it working14:30
FuseboxEllenThat's not working either. It just says that package knetworkmanager (and network-manager-kde) is not available, but is refered to by another package.14:30
ScorpKingzyntax: sudo apt-get install wine14:30
rgreeningScorpKing: So, the kubuntu package manager should be able to patch/fix using the Gentoo one14:30
vbgunzhow do you reinstall the crystalsvg icon set?14:30
Jucatoit's part of kdelibs14:31
Jucatowhy what happened?14:31
Jucato(kdelibs-data iirc)14:31
ScorpKingrgreening: oh ok. i didn't know that. thanks. have a link for me?14:31
rgreeningScorpKing: 1 sec... looking at my Gentoo install14:32
ScorpKing:D14:32
vbgunzI think I got it14:32
rgreeningScorpKing: http://bugs.kde.org/14895114:32
ScorpKingthanks14:32
rgreeningUsing the patch will add kppp support :) and dialup14:33
rgreeningKubuntu should add it14:33
ScorpKinglooking at it now.14:33
paolino__hi. i need to install some drivers which compile only on 2.6.16-17 kernel versions . the newest version of kubuntu has kernel 2.6.22. in order to make the drivers working, is it better to have an older version of kubuntu with 2.6.17 kernel or the last version with a downgraded kernel ?14:34
rgreeningScorpKing: read the last note. It looks like Kubuntu package doesn't detect kppp and dialup14:34
rgreeningScorpKing : hence no option to manage it14:34
zyntaxcan`t install wine  <"sudo apt-get install wine"> dont work any one know??14:34
ScorpKingrgreening: i'mm using kde 3.5.6 tho14:34
akar> Valid from: Tuesday 28 August 2007 03:01:24 GMT14:34
akar> Valid untul: Thursday 27 august 2009 03:01:24 GMT14:34
vbgunzI don't have it :(14:34
akarwhat is that mean?14:34
vbgunzhow do I reinstall the crystalsvg icon set?14:35
rgreeningScorpKing: Wha tkubuntu are you running?14:35
akarit is from konqueror14:35
Jucatovbgunz: I already said, it's from kdelibs or kdelibs-data14:35
ScorpKingzyntax: try sudo aptitude install wine14:35
ScorpKingrgreening: feisty 7.0414:35
rgreeningScorpKing: The old knetworkmanage under 3.5.6 it Wayyyyyy to old (need to be >= 0.214:35
ScorpKingrgreening: i will have to update then. ;)14:35
rgreeningScorpKing: make sure it is 0.214:36
vbgunzJucato: sorry, I didn't think you were talking to me there... I managed to delete all my icons... :(14:36
rgreening:>14:36
Jucatovbgunz: how exactly?14:36
zyntaxthx14:36
ubuntuHello14:36
mslotHello. Is it possible to make to seperate desktops, without xinerama?14:36
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ScorpKingrgreening: thanks for the help14:36
Polo9999Hello , i have a problem with Konkeror14:36
rgreeningScorpKing: np. Glad to assist.14:36
Polo9999Konqueror14:37
Jucatovbgunz: how did you "delete" your icons?14:37
akarPolo9999: me too14:37
ScorpKingPolo9999: explain plz14:37
vbgunzJucato: I was trying to symlink the contents of 2 directories into 1. trying to first put in crystalsvg and then Tangerine on top. (tangerine is broken)... anyhow, I rm -fr the symlinks and it appears I killed the real icons too with that :/14:37
FuseboxEllenI can't install any packages, can't access my wireless network or my wired network, and seem genuinely screwed. Joy.14:37
Polo9999I can't go to internet but i have all the settings works14:37
akarI have problem with konqueror too ScorpKing14:37
Jucatovbgunz: unless you used sudo, it would be impossible for you to rm the crystalsvg icons14:37
Polo9999I'm in IRC here and i haven't any problems14:37
bazhangFuseboxEllen: open up a terminal and sudo ifconfig and tell what it says (or paste it if it's very long).14:38
ardchoillevbgunz: I've never seen a situation where the -f switch is needed with rm -r14:38
vbgunzJucato: I have a snapshot and am about to restore the icons back but I didn't know deleting a symlink like that would remove the real files too14:38
Jucatovbgunz: they should be save in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/ unless you used sudo14:38
ScorpKingPolo9999: you use dialup?14:38
Polo9999No , Wifi14:38
Jucatovbgunz: they don't. deleting symlink doesn't delete what it links to14:38
Polo9999I do a ping test and it's work14:38
vbgunzJucato: yes. I rm -fr the symlinks and managed to also delete the real icons. maybe I botched it. I'll restore them14:39
Polo9999but Konqueror can't detect anything :/14:39
ScorpKingPolo9999: did you setup the connection manually?14:39
ardchoillevbgunz: why would you use -r when rm'ing a symlink? a symlink is just a single file, it doesn't need recursion14:39
Jucatovbgunz: again, if you didn't use sudo, it's impossible for the icons to be deleted. and secondly, if what was changed was a user configuration, reinstalling kdelibs-data might not work at all14:39
Polo9999I have put the SSID manually14:39
ScorpKingakar: how do you get internet? have the same problem?14:40
llutzvbgunz: the -r deleted the contents :)14:40
vbgunzardchoille: I was deleting the main symlink folder... the main folder wasn't a symlink14:40
ardchoillevbgunz: Ah, ok14:40
ardchoillevbgunz: So you had a folder of symlinks?14:40
vbgunzardchoille: yes, was trying to put in symlinks from two different folders into one folder...14:41
tuxwulfUnfortunately I did not get my raid running with what ubotu told me...14:41
ScorpKingPolo9999: heh. no idea then.14:41
Polo9999Erf :/14:41
ardchoilleJucato: Can't you do: ln -s folder1 folder2 link14:42
FuseboxEllenGuess I'm reinstalling kubuntu on the laptop...14:42
Polo9999Could not connect to host http://www.kubuntu.org14:42
Polo9999:/14:42
Jucatoardchoille: um. what are you trying to accomplish?14:42
ScorpKingPolo9999: firefox will most likely work.14:42
ardchoilleJucato: I'm trying to understand why vbgunz did what he did14:43
Polo9999How can i get Firefox?14:43
ardchoilleLinking two diff folders to one symlink14:43
JucatoI'm still not convinced that his icons were deleted, unless he used sudo or ran as root :)14:43
ardchoillePolo9999: sudo apt-get install firefox14:43
akarScorpKing: i don't have any problem with internet connection14:43
ScorpKingPolo9999: sudo aptitude install firefox14:43
ScorpKingakar: oh ok. nvm14:43
vbgunzardchoille: the Tangerine icon set is broken on Gutsy14:43
ardchoillevbgunz: Were you logged in as root at the time?14:43
vbgunzI was trying to first symlink crystalsvg into dir1 *then* overwrite the icons I symlinked with icons for Tangerine... I was thinking, the icons that Tangerine do not have will be replaced by the crystalsvg icons14:44
Jucatoum.. Tangerine is a GNOME icon theme afaik... it won't work on KDE14:44
Polo9999Thanks , it's currency download =)14:45
zyntaxnån svensk här inne som kan guida mej genom wine install^^14:45
akarhttp://portal.telkomspeedy.com/ always failed authenticity test!14:45
Jucato!se | zyntax14:45
akarwould someone explain..14:45
Jucatohm.. bot's slow...14:45
ubotuzyntax: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se14:45
Jucatothere14:45
tuxwulfPerhaps it needs a rebot14:46
ardchoilletuxwulf: Nice pun :)14:46
ardchoilleIf I see a package in the repos, is there a command I can use to see if that package is dependent on gnome or kde?14:48
vbgunzJucato: I had tangerine icons in Feisty. great set if icons. they worked in Feisty just perfectly but do not work in Gutsy. rather than copying both directories I thought I would be able to symlink them together14:48
Jucatook...14:48
ScorpKingardchoille: sudo aptitude show <package>14:48
LjLardchoille: uhm, i don't get you. if you just apt-cache show the package, it'll list its dependencies, including the gnome or kde libraries14:48
ardchoilleLjL: That's what I wanted (show)14:49
llutzardchoille: apt-cache depends <package>14:49
ardchoillevbgunz: Jucato is right, tangerine-icon-theme is a gnome icon theme14:50
ScorpKing:)14:50
importneed ndiswrapper14:50
importplease14:50
Daisuke_Laptopimport: so download it.14:50
llutzimport: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-common14:50
BluesKajhowdy folks :)14:50
importi enabled the universe repos like this vi /etc/apt/sources.list then i enabled universe14:51
Daisuke_Laptopimport: sudo apt-get update14:51
importbut i do a apt-cache search ndiswrapper i find ndis-utils and ndis-source now i know ndis-utils is good but what about ndis-source i thought it was suppose to be ndis-common14:51
ardchoillellutz, ScorpKing : Thanks14:52
importis ndis-source the same as ndis-common14:52
Polo9999How tu run Firefox in the terminal?14:52
ScorpKingardchoille: np.14:52
ScorpKingPolo9999: firefox14:52
importndis = ndiswrapper abbriviation sorry14:52
BluesKajPolo9999, type firefox14:53
Polo9999Ok thanks ;)14:53
Polo9999Internet works :)14:53
Polo9999Konqueror has a glitch O.o14:53
importdaisuke_Laptop i did apt-get update but as i said before im not sure if ndis-source = ndis-common14:53
ardchoillePolo9999: Please explain14:53
FuseboxEllenWell, this is an effort in fustration, I can't install the network manager off the cd, I can't install the network manager from online because I can't get a connection because I don't have the network manager, it's catch 22.14:54
Polo9999The internet pages can't run and in Firefox it's work14:54
Daisuke_Laptopno they are not the same14:54
ScorpKingwill kde 3.5.8 work on feisty with 320MB RAM?14:54
importim adding ndiswrapper to the installation cd because ndiswrapper doesnt ship with it and i dont have a ethernet card nore a modem only a wireless driver.14:55
Daisuke_LaptopScorpKing: does 3.5.7 run?14:55
llutzScorpKing: it should14:55
importwireless card14:55
Polo9999I go now ;)14:55
Daisuke_Laptopbecause 3.5.8 is just a bugfix release, afaik14:55
Polo9999Cu!14:55
ScorpKingDaisuke_Laptop: still using 3.5.6 here14:55
winterelfhi there... i m using Kbuntu and it seems like amarok can't play Mp3... i tried to upgrade.. it's seems of not doing anything... is there anyone who know y? or where i can find a soft ?14:55
Daisuke_Laptopthen you should still be okay14:55
BluesKaj3.5.8 is default in gutsy14:56
ScorpKinggusty is too slow14:56
winterelfsome 1?14:56
importDaisuke_Laptop so should i add another repo to the source.list to get ndiswrapper-common? im using kubuntu drapper, what would be a good repo14:56
winterelfsupport on mp3?14:56
ScorpKing!mp314:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:56
BluesKajScorpKing, slow ? how so ?14:56
Daisuke_Laptopyou're wanting to add ndiswrapper to a dapper livecd?14:56
importapt-get install libxine114:56
Daisuke_Laptopor...14:56
importyep14:56
importim already chrooted14:56
Daisuke_Laptopwhy not use a feisty livecd that has what you need already?14:57
Daisuke_Laptopthat would make more sense14:57
winterelfmmm?14:57
bert_sorry but are there any kopete guru's/masters here ?14:57
ScorpKingBluesKaj: 640Mhz and 320MB RAM - it is really slow and not good for blood pressure levels. ;)14:57
importwell im already in the process, so might as well finish. just need a good repo14:57
winterelfi just want my mp3 to work.. i don't whink it should incloude a lot of reading,,, :/14:57
Daisuke_Laptopwinterelf: your question has been answered twice now14:57
importwinterelf14:57
Daisuke_Laptopif you don't feel you need to read, i don't feel you need help.14:57
BluesKajScorpKing, ok :)14:57
importapt-get instlall libxine1 be done with it14:57
bert_sorry but are there any kopete guru's/masters here ?14:58
importsudo apt-get install libxine114:58
bazhangwinterelf: couple of ways--clcik on the mp3, and your sustem will ask you if you want toinstall the codecs14:58
bazhangotehr way is to listen to import14:58
FuseboxEllenAh. hell with this, just gonna reinstall XP. Thanks for the help, everyone. :)14:58
Daisuke_Laptopsorry, that "i shouldn't have to read!" attitude p#$^@ me off.14:58
bazhangugh--kb!14:58
ScorpKingbert_: join #kopete14:58
bert_I tried, but there's no one there who can help me scorpking14:59
winterelfbazhang: yea.. i did it, my system did not sk but still when i klicked on mp3's it's open the amarok14:59
bert_as it can be both a kopete and/or an apparmor problem14:59
ScorpKingbert_: explain the problem. maybe someone here knows14:59
importDaisuke_Laptop sorry for the inconvience didnt know that asking for a good repo was a @%^$ me off question14:59
Daisuke_Laptopimport: NO not you!14:59
bert_well, on feisty I could perfectly view other people's webcam14:59
Daisuke_Laptopyou're okay14:59
importoh lol sorry14:59
bert_but now on gutsy I can't14:59
ScorpKinglol14:59
Daisuke_Laptopi'm still thinking on yours :P14:59
bert_but I don't know why :s15:00
bazhangFuseboxEllen: no don't15:00
import:)15:00
ScorpKingbert_: no idea15:00
bert_okey, /thx scorpking15:00
importsomeone is reverting back to XP i feel sorry for ya15:00
ScorpKinglol15:01
Daisuke_Laptopis there a dapper-backports repo?15:01
FuseboxEllenbazhang: I want my laptop for wireless internet, browsing and listening to music. I can't seem to fix whatever happened to network manager to even give me a wired connection, so 2 of those three are out of the picture.15:01
importim not sure i looked at the list let me check again15:01
bazhangFuseboxEllen: okay--you just installed Kubuntu?15:01
ScorpKingbbl. have fun guys15:02
FuseboxEllenI installed ubuntu on my PC last week. Installed it on my laptop last night.15:02
FuseboxEllenkubuntu, that is15:02
winterelfbazhang: what's the other option?15:02
bazhangfull install ie not shared with xp FuseboxEllen?15:02
importi see a drapper universe two of them and i see a securtiy main restricted two of those also and a updates main restricted two of them too.15:02
FuseboxEllenFull install, yeah.15:02
bert_does anyone know how to check which ports are opened and which ones closed ?15:02
kanpachihello i'm trying to build an iconset i got from kde-look, and when i type "./buildset", i keep getting an error saying "Checking for convert...  no." what am i missing here ?15:03
FuseboxEllenMy PC uses a dual boot of XP and kubuntu, cause I need XP to play several games (due to not trying Cedega yet)15:03
llutzbert_: netstat15:03
BluesKajwinterelf,  if yer gonna run linux , some reading is in order ....if you don't want to help yourself then you will have problems15:03
bazhangso there's nothing to back up--right?15:03
FuseboxEllenRight15:03
bert_thx llutz15:03
bazhangBluesKaj: is it libxine1 for mp3 support?15:03
importarchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu drapper universe: security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted15:03
importyes15:04
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ardchoillebazhang: iirc, it's libxine1-ffmpeg15:04
FuseboxEllenThough due to my laptops memory issues, reinstalling via liveCD takes -ages-.15:04
bazhangFuseboxEllen: a reinstall of Kubuntu is going to be less time than a reinstall of XP15:04
bazhangardchoille: my bad--thanks!15:04
BluesKajbazhang, libxine1-ffmpeg15:04
importfuseboxellen theres always woody damn small linux wouldnt use it if i was you but it runs great only like 50 megs15:04
bazhangwinterelf: you see that?15:05
nosrednaekimbazhang: FuseboxEllen a purge of knetworkmanager and a reinstall sometimes helps15:05
importi would stick with kubuntu or ubuntu for a lighter system15:05
nosrednaekimin addition,you may want to erase everything in /etc/network/interfaces15:05
bazhangnosrednaekim: she has no net right now15:05
ardchoilleyw15:05
bazhangthanks BluesKaj15:06
importkubuntu = kde interface a little more eye catchy  ubuntu = gnome less eye catchy but alot better then red hat mandrake 6.015:06
BluesKajwireless , what a PITA15:06
importBluesKaj its not that hard15:06
llutzBluesKaj: depends on hardware and net-stucture15:06
importwhat kind of driver do you have?15:06
bazhangimport: speak for yourself heh15:07
importi do my wireless with ndiswrapper takes me about 2 min now use to be hard15:07
winterelfblueskaj: let's just say that in this last few month i hardcoded my wireless, (usb wierd) + grapghic card from year 1829 and it took some time since i used slackware 9.1,,, so now i m on kubuntu. and just wanted to know if anyone knows that simple problam on ubuntu who dosent recognized mp3.. so please.. if u can't help..15:07
BluesKajimport, it depends one yer setup , but from all the qestions about networks wireless have the most probs15:07
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: pop in a wire and run "sudo dhclient eth0"15:08
importwhat kind of set up are you doing?15:08
BluesKajwinterelf, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg15:08
importyep15:08
importwait15:08
importi thought just sudo apt-get install libxine1 would take care of all that15:08
winterelftx15:09
importeven real media mpg avi mp3 etc15:09
FuseboxEllenOkay, done that nosrednaekim.15:09
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: can you access the net now?15:09
importim sitting here chatting lol. anyone know a good repo for kubuntu i need ta get ndiswrapper-common.15:10
FuseboxEllenYup, that did the trick, I can access the net through Konqueror now15:10
importdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe,deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted,deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted these are the ones i have15:10
bazhangnice wrok nosrednaekim!15:11
importthere are others with src in front of them too15:11
bazhangerr work15:11
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: unfortunately, wireless isn't quite so easy.... do you have an encyrpted AP?15:11
nosrednaekimwell... I wrok too ;)15:11
bazhanghaha15:11
importanyone showing anything diffrent in their source.list15:11
FuseboxEllenYeah, I do, a Linksys Wireless G home gateway.15:11
FuseboxEllenUsing a Broadcom wireless card on the laptop.15:12
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: what type of encryption?15:13
FuseboxEllenWEP15:13
nosrednaekimi.e., WEP or WPA15:13
paolino__i have two eth nics and the OS activates them automatically at boot time even if i choose to avoid that15:13
paolino__how can i solve?15:13
poison--paolino__, blacklist them15:15
BluesKajeeuuww WEP is scary not very secure at all , from all recomendations for wireless encryption WPA is much more secure , but ihas to be on the thee individual computer not just the network router15:15
vbgunzdamn, I loved the Tangerine icon set on Feisty. it blows hard in Gutsy though :/15:15
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: ok, grab wlassistant15:15
FuseboxEllenLooking for it now, though I'll have to dash off to work in quater of an hour15:16
spawn57compiz is so sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet15:16
paolino__poison--: already tried15:17
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"15:18
importaww carp i get it now hey thank you Daisuke_Laptop i added the backports15:18
FuseboxEllenGot it15:18
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: ok... tryusing that to connect15:18
datorHelllo15:19
datorI have a problem...15:19
datoris it any program that butcher windows installation's for kubuntu?15:19
datorlike nlite but tahst for windows15:19
datorthats*15:19
LastMalldator  you want a leaner kubuntu ?15:20
Daisuke_Idoxubuntu to the rescue!15:20
FuseboxEllennosrednaekim: Thanks, that did the trick!15:20
Daisuke_Ido!boot15:20
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto15:20
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: :D15:20
paolino__they get activated even if "auto" is not specified in etc/network/interfaces15:20
datorNo,My computer crashed when i tried to install a new windows install coz i hate the shit on XP.15:21
datorbutchered15:21
vbgunzanyone know of an orangey icon set like Tangerine?15:21
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: kill Knetworkmanager and tell it not to start on login15:21
ardchoillevbgunz: for kde or gnome?15:22
FuseboxEllenDone.15:22
LastMalloh, I was gonna suggest a kde-core install15:22
vbgunzKDE15:22
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: you might not have automatic connection on login, but it should work now..15:22
vbgunzperferably. I cannot get Tangerine to work on Kubuntu the way it used too. that icon set rocks :(15:22
datorIs there any software for kubuntu that butcher windows installations?15:23
FuseboxEllenI don't care about not having auto connection, the fact that wireless internet now works for me is all that I need. Thanks nosrednaekim, bazhang and everyone else who helped. :)15:23
ardchoillevbgunz: There's the  human-icon-theme  in the repos and it doesn't show gnome as a dependency15:23
bazhangFuseboxEllen: yay!15:23
nosrednaekimFuseboxEllen: No problem...15:23
Tm_Tdator: what you mean by "butcher"15:24
datorlike remove components15:24
datorthat i dont need15:24
BluesKajdator did you make a partition on the drive to ntfs so you could install winows on it ?15:24
Tm_Thi BluesKaj15:24
BluesKajhi Tm_T15:24
FuseboxEllenAnyway, time to go and toil away at work for a bit, thanks again for the help, and see you all around, Might drop by again just to hang out and soak up information. See you all!15:24
bazhangplease do!15:25
Daisuke_IdoFuseboxEllen: a great way to learn :D15:25
vbgunzardchoille: cool, will give it a try, just tried several kde icon sets, all busted :)15:25
Daisuke_Idothat's what i did15:25
datoroh well.....i used a ilegal. that was super tiny with nearly NO stuff on it15:25
BluesKajTm_T, did they catch that crazy school shooter ?15:25
datorbut i wanna buther my windows instaklation15:25
datori heard about it15:25
datorlike nlite15:25
Daisuke_Idolike...  get rid of it completely?15:25
vbgunzardchoille: human breaks badly too :(15:25
vbgunzI don't get it. something must have changed to cause this kind of breakage. on Feisty, tangerine was awesome. on Gutsy it's busted :(15:26
vbgunzonly one icon set really works fine and thats crystalsvg... should have called it monoplysvg :P15:26
datorAnyone that know of a nlite-looking-software to kubuntu????15:27
WulongWhat is nlite?15:28
LastMalldator  you can do a commandline install, then add kde-core, then the few things you need/want  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core15:28
bazhanga windows downsizer15:28
jermainhi everyone15:28
LastMalldator  using the alternate install disk15:29
BluesKaj!hi | jermain15:29
ubotujermain: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:29
datorLastmall:Is that for kubuntu? coz i need to change a windows installation15:29
importumm still no go do i need a main?15:29
LastMalldator  may be the wrong channel for that then ?15:29
Vermuxthe command who shows which user is logged on?15:30
jermainxD15:30
datorwell im looking for a software that WORKS in kubuntu to butcher windows intsllatiom15:30
ardchoilleVermux: who15:30
importi have a dapper main restricted15:30
BluesKajdator , explain "butcher"15:30
JuJuBeeIs there a simple way of preventing a select group of users from using games on a system while allowing all others?15:30
heroisn't there an automatic sources.list maker?15:30
LastMalldator wants to make an installed xp smaller15:30
Vermuxardchoille: why when I change user and type who- it doesnt show the new user?15:31
bazhangdator: insert live cd--'use whole disk' should do it15:31
hero!sourceomatic15:31
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic15:31
JuJuBeeeveryting in /usr/share/apps is r-x for everyone15:31
ardchoilleVermux: no idea :(15:31
jermaini have a problem, my usb stick is calling everything a read-only-system file, now i can't remove stuff anymore15:31
Daisuke_Idodator: i can give you 100% compression for xp15:31
Daisuke_Idoformat c:15:31
bazhanghaha15:31
importhey guys i think i figured it out but not sure what would i change restricted to make it find everything. In my source list i have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted15:31
BluesKajLastMall, sounds like he needs to shrink the partition ,15:31
importand deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe15:31
datorLastmall:i want to butcher a windows installation for my own needs.15:31
ardchoilleDaisuke_Ido: haha15:31
datorand no15:31
Daisuke_Idoimport: add multiverse15:32
importDaisuke_ido thank you15:32
import:)15:32
Vermuxwhoknows the answer?  why when I change the user in terminal and type "who"- it doesnt show the new user?15:32
datori just wanna remove the scrap from my windows installation15:32
ardchoilledator: You're wanting to get rid of Windows?15:32
BluesKaj!gparted | dator15:32
ubotudator: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php15:32
bazhangdator: you should ask in ##windows15:32
jermaini have a problem: my usb stick is calling everything a read-only-system file, now i can't remove stuff anymore15:32
datorOk15:32
Daisuke_Idodator: okay, i see what you're saying.  you want to remove components YOU don't need from your existing windows install15:32
datorDaisuke_Ido:Yes thats rigth15:33
Daisuke_Idobazhang's got it, ##windows is where you wouls have to check.15:33
ardchoillejermain: Check permissions of the mount point15:33
datorOk15:33
jermaini will ardchoille, thanks15:33
BluesKajdator, then go to the #windows room15:33
ardchoilles/room/channel/15:33
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: i think he got that :D15:33
BluesKajerr, slow today :)15:33
bazhangI still like Daisuke_Ido's option better :}15:33
BluesKajhehe15:34
ardchoillebazhang: me too15:34
jermainarchoille: owner can view and modify15:34
Daisuke_Idounfortunately, it's not always a good option15:34
jermaingroup and others can view15:34
ardchoillejermain: Who is the owner?15:34
jermainme15:34
Daisuke_Idoi have to use windows (so i run it in vbox on my lappy)15:34
jermainthere is only one account15:34
ardchoillejermain: is the usb stick mounted as ro (read only)?15:34
datorBlueskaj:I wanna remove components taht i dont need from a windows installation15:35
jermaindont know, after i putit in it was mounted automatically15:35
jermainhow do i check?15:35
bazhang:{15:35
BluesKajI still have a windows partition for scanning documents and old pics etc ..kooka sucks IMO15:35
ardchoillejermain: open a terminal and type: mount15:35
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ardchoillejermain: Look for the mount point and see if it's ro or rw15:35
jermaink15:35
BluesKajdator, then type /join ##windows ...they can help you15:35
jermainrw15:36
ardchoillejermain: if it's mounted as rw and the owner of the mount point is you, then you should be able to read/write to it15:36
jermainhmm15:36
jermain_ack,.. who is this 'jermain' who is not me but forced me into using this ugly underscore in my nick :(15:38
Daisuke_Idoone of the jackson 5!15:38
jermain_^^15:39
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jermain_brb, gonna tinker with my prmissions15:39
bazhangis that germane?15:39
ardchoillejermain_ did your irc client get disconnected?15:39
Jucatosame person....15:39
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bazhangJucato: you need to blog more op less :}15:40
Jucatohm?15:40
bazhangmore blog posts!15:40
Jucatoah. yes writing one currently15:40
Jucatolet's see if I finish it :P15:40
bazhanghaha15:41
datorthey couldnt help me on ##windows15:41
Dr_willisI rember when you could get a good bloging for $1015:41
Dr_willis:)15:41
brunesHey all - ever since I upgraded to 7.10, my bluetooth radio has stopped working. I have a dell D810 laptop with built-in dell bluetooth module. worked fine with 7.04, and hciconfig reports it as enabled. But the bluetooth radio light on the laptop is not on like it should be, and userspace tools to not work15:41
bazhang:}15:41
brunesanyone else have bluetooth problems in 7.10?15:41
soonhow can I create a flash thing in linux (without going cross-over office)15:41
bazhangdator: did they tell you to come here?15:42
datorbazhang:no15:42
bazhangdator: care to join me in #kubuntu-offtopic?15:43
datornope15:43
YammehHey, can anyone suggest a good application for downloading from newsgroups?15:43
Jucatolol15:43
Daisuke_Idodator: your best bet is in add/remove programs, there should be a thing for adding/removing windows components15:43
bazhangmkay15:43
Daisuke_IdoYammeh: oh boy can i!15:43
Jucatooffer someone help, and they outrightly refuse it hahaha15:43
Daisuke_Idolet's see15:43
Jucato!info knode15:43
ubotuknode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1235 kB, installed size 3004 kB15:43
Daisuke_Idoyou do multi-server?15:43
Daisuke_Idoknode is pffffft15:43
dator? i want you to come to offtopic15:43
YammehEither/or. It doesn't matter really :)15:43
Daisuke_IdoYammeh: klibido15:44
YammehThanks :)15:44
bazhangk libido? real package :}?15:44
Daisuke_Idoyes15:44
Daisuke_Ido!info klibido15:44
ubotuklibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-3ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 427 kB, installed size 1384 kB15:44
datorbazhang:are ya coming to ##kubuntu-offtopic15:44
YammehDoes this open and use nzb files?15:45
bazhangusenet makes sense15:45
bazhangdator yes15:45
Daisuke_IdoYammeh: it can, yes15:45
datordator:im waiting ^^15:45
Daisuke_Ido!find nzb15:45
ubotuFound: hellanzb, libnzb-dev, libnzb0c2a, nzb15:45
datorlol15:45
Daisuke_Idoi think the issue here is the number of hashes15:45
nchung_!find nzb15:45
nchung_ !info klibido15:46
ubotuklibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-3ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 427 kB, installed size 1384 kB15:46
Daisuke_Idonchung_: what are you doing?15:46
nosrednaekimvbgunz: BTW.... check out the human icon theme15:46
vbgunznosrednaekim: it looks busted and breaks like Tangerine too :(15:47
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importDaisuke_Ido i got it working heres a big source.list so if anyone else has this problem maybe it could help :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18575815:47
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Daisuke_Idoawesome :)15:47
nosrednaekimvbgunz: :D15:47
Daisuke_Idocongratulations, by the way15:47
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vbgunznosrednaekim: thanks though :)15:47
importthank you15:47
jthomaswhat is the CUPS password for the web interface?15:48
importi just want to help if i can.15:48
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nosrednaekimjthomas: there isn't one that I know of.15:48
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mathieuhohayo15:49
jthomasthere is on the system i was setting up last night (6.06 lts)15:50
mathieufuck15:51
YammehHow does kubuntu decide which network card to use for internet use? I've got 2 network cards both with different net connections through them15:52
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Dr_willisi thought the cups pasword was the first users password.15:52
Dr_willisbut under the older Ubuntu's CUPS web interface was disabled. It sort of Looked like it worked..but it dident.15:53
seezerYammeh: the default gateway15:54
seezerdo both cards have ips in the same network?15:54
YammehThey're different networks15:54
seezerso the default gateway you or dhcpcd set describes the way "to the outside world"15:55
seezerand only one interface has an ip in the gateways subnet15:55
devianceEvery time I try to connect to my wireless network it gets to IP configuration started and then doesnt connect, anyone know why??15:56
YammehIs it possible to set up kubuntu so I can use both connections?15:56
seezerYammeh: sure - but thats not the standard we-need-a-gui-for-that task15:57
YammehOk, I don't have time to set it up at the minute, I'll have to look into it later15:57
seezerso google for 'interface bonding linux' or thomething15:57
seezeroh my ..15:58
seezerit's something..15:58
YammehIs it alot of work?15:58
devianceMy lan port doesnt detect that its on a network, but its plugged in15:58
tuxwulfI found an article on that somewhere, called 'bonding'15:58
seezerYammeh: that depends on your knowledge ;)15:59
YammehI'm a noob :P15:59
seezerYammeh: look into it and decide if it's worth the effort15:59
YammehYer, I will do. Thanks15:59
seezerhave fun ;)15:59
seezerdeviance: could you try "sudo mii-tool interface_name"?16:01
seezerinterface_name should be replaced with "eth0" or something16:01
devianceSiocgmiphy on eth0 not supported16:02
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Jack_Phoenixrar16:05
mneisenIs there a way to enable/disable compiz for a session?16:05
Dr_willisuse the kwin --replace command to stop it perhaps.16:05
Dr_willisi think its kwin --replace.. not sure. :)16:05
bazhangyep, then compiz --replace to turn it on again16:06
seezerdeviance: try "sudo ethtool eth0 | grep Link"16:07
mneisenDr_willis: thanks, i will try that.16:08
deviance1 second16:08
mneisenDr_willis: one more question: kde-window-decorator crashes every single time when I start compiz (either at start of session or manually). If i restarte with kde-window-decorator --replace, it runs fine. Any suggestions?16:09
bazhangmneisen: install emerald16:09
hydrogenemerald is worse than kde-window-decorator16:10
hydrogenit looks utterly out of palce16:10
hydrogen.. and ugly16:10
mneisenbazhang: well, I happen to like polyester. How do i get this with emerald?16:10
bazhangagreed, but less crash-worthy16:10
bazhangmneisen: sudo apt-get install emerald fromt the Konsole16:10
mneisenbazhang: yes, emerald does not crash.16:10
hydrogenlikely because compiz is horrible.16:11
hydrogenbut16:11
hydrogenthats only my 200 cents!16:11
* BluesKaj wonders what some would do if there wasn't any window dressing available :)16:11
mneisenbazhang: I know about emerald - but how do i get a "normal" KDE theme with emerald?16:11
bazhangand probably will be known in #compiz-fusion16:11
mneisenbazhang: thanks for the pointer.16:11
bazhangmneisen: what is normal?16:11
trappistI'm pretty sure you'd need to duplicate your favorite kde theme in emerald16:12
mneisenbazhang: Polyester is normal, Keramic is normal, Plastik is normal. All these themes come with KDE.16:12
mneisentrappist: that would be too much hassle for me. And another reason not to use emerald.16:13
bazhangmneisen: okay--I just go with what the installer gave me--boring I know :}16:13
trappistmneisen: isn't there one called kde-window-decorator?16:13
mneisenbazhang: No, I would not call that boring - I just do not like the much too colorful and windoze-like emerald themes.16:13
mneisentrappist: Yes, there is, but it crashes on startup and I have to restart it manually.16:14
devianceseezer: That gave me Link detected: No16:14
MagicCowThe transparency is a nice effect though.16:14
bazhangmneisen: you can also look in the ccsm and check out the plugin window decorations16:14
MagicCowIt adds a neat asthetic16:14
mneisenccsm?16:14
bazhangmneisen: compizconfig settings manager16:14
devianceseezer: I have just run iwlist scan and its found my network, how can I tell it to connect with a key?16:14
devianceThis is on my wireless stick now16:15
mneisenbazhang: ah.16:15
bazhangdeviance: what is the device? eth1?16:15
deviancewlan016:15
bazhangsudo dhclient wlan016:16
seezerdeviance: ah. you're talking about wireless?16:16
devianceI am now16:16
seezerhmkay.16:16
devianceI have both plugged in and neither work :P16:16
MagicCowDo an IFconfig?16:16
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BluesKajdeviance, what encryption ?16:16
devianceI have Wep 64bit hexidecimal pairs16:17
seezertoo many cooks. gonna get a cig. ;)16:17
bazhanghaha16:17
BluesKajon the lan or the lappy ?16:17
monziehi all16:17
monziei want to try out developing kde4 applications16:17
monziewhat is the state of the kdebase-workspace packag in the kubuntu repositories?16:18
mneisenbazhang: well, in ccsm/window decorations I can only configure how big the shadows are and similar things.16:18
bazhangmneisen: okay; my bad.16:18
devianceAll I need to know is the CLI for connect to cell 01 with wlan0 and wep key16:19
mneisenbazhang: no prob, just wanted to let you know... .-D16:19
seezerdeviance: iwconfig --help16:19
devianceAh16:19
seezerman iwconfig for details16:20
seezerotherwise use knetworkmanager16:20
BluesKajdeviance, are familiar with ?  :https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm16:21
Vermuxwhat channel would be a good one for legal advice?16:21
devianceNo16:22
devianceBut its all set up, I need to connect16:22
MagicCowifconfig wlan0 up ?16:24
MagicCowI guess you would still need to enter password though.16:24
* genii sips a coffee and tries to pry his eyes open16:25
MagicCowWhy is knetworkmanager not working deviance?16:25
devianceMagicCow: I dont know it just doesnt16:26
devianceI have run that command and set the /interfaces up correct but nothing happens16:26
devianceIt detects my network when I run sudo iwlist scan16:26
n8k99after fiddling with the login setting in System Settings, i can not get the default Kubuntu KDM theme to show up during login16:26
MagicCowSo your interface is recognized.. you jjust can't connect..16:26
devianceYes16:27
MagicCowI'll try to google search: Linux Wireless connection without knetwork manager16:27
MagicCowMaybe that will   give a solution16:27
devianceNothing yet :(16:27
MasterShrekMagicCow, does your wifi card work and you just dont know how to use it on the command line?16:28
wraithmagihey... got a wireless problem on my laptop using broadcom 8433 chipset (I think)16:29
MagicCowMasterShrek: this is for deviance, but I think that would probably help him.16:29
x4245i need help getting a network monitor for kde16:29
devianceMasterShrek: Yeah that just about sums it up16:29
MasterShrekwraithmagi, i doubt its 8433, shoudl be 43xx16:29
MasterShrekdeviance, whats the name of your wifi card? wlan0 or eth1 or soemthign im assuming16:29
wraithmagiyeah... getting that confused with something else.16:29
x4245anyone know a good one for kde?16:30
wraithmagisry.16:30
deviancewlan016:30
MasterShrekdeviance, well youll want to do: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <network name>16:30
MasterShrekdeviance, that will associate it with the access point16:30
wraithmagiactually showing as eth116:30
MasterShrekif its wpa, youll have to set up your wpa_supplicant.conf16:30
MasterShrekwraithmagi, they you may be ok, you might need firmware though16:31
Daisuke_IdoMasterShrek: don't use networkmanager, do you?16:31
MasterShrekDaisuke_Ido, no16:31
wraithmagier.... don't remember....16:31
testabluitalian room please?16:31
wraithmagion my driva box right now.16:31
BluesKajdeviance, about WEP vs WPA encryption, http://www.wifiknight.com/wep-vs-wpa-a-brief-primer-article/16:31
MasterShrek!it | testablu16:31
ubotutestablu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:31
testabluok tank you16:31
MasterShrek:)16:31
wraithmagiit was working fine until I followed a tut on my schools website telling me to create a wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/16:32
MagicCowhttp://www.linux.com/feature/56946 <-- about wpa_supplicant16:32
MasterShrekwraithmagi, that will happen, but at least your school has a tut for that, mine doesnt even acknowledge linux on their wireless setup page16:32
devianceIll try that MasterShrek16:32
MasterShrekdeviance, if you need to enter a wep key: sudo iwconfig wlan0 key <wep key>16:32
wraithmagiwell our CS dept uses ubuntu for labs...16:32
wraithmagiwell that and win2k/XP16:33
MasterShrekdeviance, after that you want to grab an ip: sudo dhclient3 wlan016:33
devianceOk i have done the wep key16:33
MasterShrekdeviance, also to scan for networks in range: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan16:33
MasterShrekdeviance, try to grab an ip16:33
devianceOk16:33
MasterShrekwraithmagi, im sure ours does too, but i doubt any of them need wireless access16:34
devianceIts looking, I think16:34
devianceNo DHCPOFFERS received16:34
MasterShrekdeviance, if your access point has a space in it, when u run the comand to associate it you need to enclose the name of the access point in ''16:34
wraithmagiit's pretty neat... they actually order ubuntu cds in bulk for PPC and x86.16:35
devianceIt doesnt16:35
MasterShrekdeviance, type iwconfig and see if it associated with the right ap16:35
wraithmagiso if I'm using network manager I should remove it?16:35
devianceOk, it has the essid writen there, but no key16:35
MasterShrekwraithmagi, you dont have to, but i did because i dont like network manager16:36
wraithmagibasically what I'm after is two seperate profiles... one for home and one for school.16:36
MasterShrekdeviance, iwconfig wlan0 key <wep key>  (its wep not wpa right?)16:36
devianceIts wep16:36
wraithmagischool uses wep 216:36
MasterShrekdeviance, use sudo also16:36
BluesKajwell, deviance , relying on WEP is not secure ...WPA is the way to go , google the difference and you'll undersdtand what I mean16:37
devianceYep, when i run it nothing seems to happen16:37
devianceI KNOW the difference16:37
devianceBut I have some WPA only deviced16:37
MasterShrekwraithmagi, the way i used to do it is just have two entries in my wpa_supplicant.conf file, and it would automatically connect to whichever one it found, but that was a while back at the tech college16:37
MasterShrekso i dont really remember how i did it16:37
BluesKajgood , finally a response16:37
wraithmagioh.  ok... where shoud supplicant.conf file be in kubuntu?16:38
MasterShrekso i dont really remember how i did it16:38
MasterShrekin /etc16:38
MasterShrekactually hit up key =P16:38
wraithmagiso just rebuild the .conf from the one my school has online and add my home network settings and I should be golden?16:39
bazhangwhat's the command line for enabling a second monitor? ie not through the gui16:39
devianceMasterShrek: It says DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255, but I know my subnetmask is 255.255.255.016:39
MasterShrekwraithmagi, i believe so16:40
MasterShrekdeviance, umm, your access point is successfully associated right? case sensitive? matches the relevant output of: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ?16:40
* genii hands out coffees16:40
devianceYep16:41
Jucatoyay16:41
* BluesKaj is all coffee'd out , but appreciates the gesture , genii :)16:41
JucatoI desperately need coffee16:41
lovremy mic is still not working on kubuntu..... dont know how to make it work. Any ideas?16:41
MasterShrekdeviance, well damn...it does scan though right?16:41
wraithmagialways room for coffee....16:41
devianceYou guys are obsessed with coffe16:41
Jucatogenii: ta!16:42
devianceYeah16:42
MasterShreklovre, dont make it work, let it work :)16:42
wraithmagicaffeine=God.16:42
wraithmagineed to survive16:42
* genii gets BluesKaj some nice fruit juice instead16:42
geniiJucato :)16:42
lovreMasterShrek: ok, i let it, but it just wont.16:42
BluesKajthx genii :)16:42
geniiwraithmagi: Yer in the coffee cult ;)16:42
lovreMasterShrek: testing with skype16:42
MasterShreklovre, i dont know much about microphones, but its not muted in your volume control or anything is it?16:43
wraithmagigenii:  YAY!!! church, cult, cult, church....16:43
wraithmagiso I get bored somewhere else every sunday!16:43
geniiBah. i wish Asus would start giving the driver source code for their motherboards in non-redhat specific code16:43
geniiMaybe I should just make the rpm then alien it16:44
devianceI HATE NETWORKING16:46
lovreMasterShrek: nothing muted16:46
devianceHow can Lan not work? :(16:46
lovreand another problem: automount for USB memory does not work.... :(16:46
lovrehow to fix it16:46
devianceIt worked fine on 7.0416:47
wraithmagiagrees with deviance.16:47
jeroenvrpI try to play songs (mp3+ogg) in k3b, but it says there is a problem with audio output. It is set to alsa in the settings. Anyone an idea?16:47
devianceYou need MP3 support installed16:48
MasterShrekjeroenvrp, why would you play them in k3b?16:48
jeroenvrpdeviance: I have16:48
MasterShrekbut yes, i think its k3b-mp3 or something16:48
jeroenvrpMasterShrek: to check them16:48
Dr_willisi dident think k3b could play them16:48
deviance!info k3b-mp316:48
ubotuPackage k3b-mp3 does not exist in gutsy16:48
MasterShrekjeroenvrp, thers a package you have to install, search synaptic for k3b and youll find it16:48
seezerdeviance: it will work on 7.10 too - if done right ;)16:48
MasterShrekadept*16:48
Dr_willis!find k3b16:48
jeroenvrpthere is a play this track in k3b16:48
ubotuFound: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp316:48
jeroenvrpMasterShrek: I have16:48
MasterShreklibk3b2-mp316:49
seezerdeviance: you don't like knetworkmanager?16:49
Dr_willis libk3b2-mp3 - is my guess :)16:49
seezer(i don't, but that's another point..)16:49
* BluesKaj is happy to have built in cable snakes running thru-out the house ...no need for wireless 16:49
jeroenvrpthey can burned, but not played16:49
seezerwireless works like a charm here16:49
devianceDr_willis: Could you shed any light on this, it appears to connect to a wireless network fine but gets stuck at 57% on IP configuration16:49
Dr_willisi dont use wireless any more. :)16:49
seezerand iwconfig/iwlist haven't really changed from 7.04 to 7.1016:50
seezerdeviance: you have a dhcp server running in that network?16:50
devianceYeah16:50
BluesKajmaybe if i bought a laptop then wireless would be a consideration16:50
devianceBluesKaj, even lan isnt working for me right now16:51
devianceHow can old fassioned cables not work :(16:51
seezerdeviance: what hardware do you use?16:52
devianceBelkin USB stick16:52
seezeruah16:52
seezer;)16:52
devianceWhat do you have?16:52
devianceI need to get a new one tbh16:52
seezerusb network devices are made by the devil i guess16:52
jeroenvrpso no one knows about this problem16:52
seezerdeviance: let's try to get it working anyway..16:53
seezercould you please close knetworkmanager16:53
MasterShrekjeroenvrp, make your playlist in amarok and when you are done, click burn cd from there and it will open in k3b with your playlist ready to go16:53
seezerdeviance: and show me "iwconfig wlan0"16:53
jeroenvrpMasterShrek: I know that16:53
jeroenvrpits about the play option in k3b16:53
devianceNot very easily its not on this PC16:54
bazhangis it even possible to enable a second monitor via cli?16:54
devianceOtherwise I would be happy :P16:54
seezerdeviance: i guess so ;)16:54
Dr_willisbazhang,  if its nvidia - yes.16:54
Dr_willisbazhang,  or are you refering to enabling it in the console?16:54
Dr_willisand having a console show up on it?16:54
bazhangDr_willis: in the console16:55
Dr_willisbazhang,  still not clear.. :) You want to have a CONSOLE on the 2nd moniotr? or configure X for the 2nd monitor from the Console?16:55
devianceseezer: Its freezing on the step where it aquires a IP adress from the router16:55
bazhangDr_willis: have x on the second monitor, but without using gui16:55
seezerdeviance: define "it"16:56
bazhangnot a big issue Dr_willis; just someone screwed up theirs and wanted some help16:56
bazhangnot me--only one monitor here :}16:56
devianceseezer: Sorry, KNetworkManager16:56
Dr_willisbazhang,  thers the nvidia command line tools that can tweak the xorg.conf for you16:56
bazhangDr_willis: thanks very much16:57
seezerdeviance: could you close the app please16:57
Dr_willis nvidia-xconfig   -A16:57
Dr_willisfor the LONG help for it. :)16:57
devianceOkay16:58
devianceClosed16:58
z1pp3rI'm using a logitech ultra-x keyboard (cheap, pretty standard keyboard) and the volume up/down keys seem to be recognized, but they dont affect the right soundcard/channel.... Where do i customize those keys?16:58
seezernow paste me "iwconfig wlan0" somewhere16:58
dgrantanyone know how to reset katapult's database?17:01
dgrantkatapult has stopped working on my machine17:01
MasterShrekdgrant, does the folder ~/.katapult exist?17:01
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dgrantMasterShrek: it doesn't look it17:02
MasterShrek(never used katapult so i dont know) but if it does, you should just be able to delete that folder17:02
seezerdeviance: ok. could you add output of "iwlist wlan0 scan" (only the parts of your target wlan please )17:02
dgrantMasterShrek: just an rc file in .kde17:02
Jucato~/.kde/share/apps/katapul/ or ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc17:02
datorwhats the name on the swedish kubuntu channel?17:02
Jucato!se | dator17:02
ubotudator: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se17:02
MasterShrek~/.kde/share/apps/katapult ?17:02
datorty17:02
Jucatothere are 2 places. one for config files (~/.kde/share/config/) and one for app data (~/.kde/share/apps/)17:03
dgrantMasterShrek: no, that doesnt' exist17:03
MasterShrekdgrant, check Jucato's suggestion17:04
MasterShreks17:04
Jucatodgrant: how exactly is katapult not working?17:04
dgrantMasterShrek: Jucato: I already checked both those places but there's just an rc file in ~/.kde/share/config17:04
Jucatoyes. that rc file is the config file for katapult17:04
Jucato~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc17:05
seezerdeviance: so try the following steps: iwconfig wlan0 essid "youressid (casesensitive!)"17:05
devianceOkay17:05
dgrantJucato: doesn't open up when I press the keyboard shortcut. also running strace katapult seems to show that it is hanging on something when it starts up17:05
seezeriwconfig wlan0 key "key"17:05
seezeror iwconfig wlan0 key "s:key" (if as string)17:05
Jucatodgrant: move/rename the katapultrc file then. make sure katapult isn't running first17:05
seezer(or try both)17:05
seezerdeviance: after that repaste iwconfig wlan0 please17:06
seezerdeviance: and one hint: use those pastebins (i.e. the one in the topic)17:06
devianceOk17:06
z1pp3rI'm using a logitech ultra-x keyboard (cheap, pretty standard keyboard) and the volume up/down keys seem to be recognized, but they dont affect the right soundcard/channel.... Where do i customize those keys?17:06
dgrantkatapult seems to be working again. I unmounted some nfs drives that mounted but the remote host was disconnected but that was a while ago. That might have fixed the problem but I can't be sure.17:06
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seezerz1pp3r: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/11872317:08
SYPRESSanybody17:09
deviancehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43676/17:09
SYPRESShow i can remove sond card from system?17:09
kilrae_you need a screwdriver17:10
seezer:)17:10
seezerdeviance: this was "iwconfig wlan0 key "bla"" right?17:10
kilrae_normally phillips17:10
devianceYeah, my key appears fine now, I think I needed to use ""17:11
SYPRESS)))17:11
SYPRESSthanks17:11
z1pp3rseezer: thanks, i'll take a look17:11
z1pp3raww... linking to a bug report, this cant be good...17:11
thejockerciao a tutti17:11
seezerdeviance: so you have a associated accesspoint in iwconfig output?17:11
BluesKajSYPRESS, to choose a default soundcard: sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"17:11
seezerz1pp3r: ;) you're right. but i guess this will be fixed soon17:12
devianceNo, it says Acces Point: Not-Associated, but the ESSID and Key are there17:12
z1pp3rSYPRESS: you can use 'asoundconf list' to get a list of available soundcards in your system17:12
devianceIs there a step I am missing?17:12
z1pp3rseezer: it's wierd though... I have 2 soundcards, it works fine for my first one, but when i change to my other soundcard it breaks17:12
devianceOr should I do sudo dhclient3?17:12
z1pp3rcan't be a too serious bug then i guess17:12
BluesKajSYPRESS, sudo asoundconf list17:12
seezerdeviance: try setting the correct channel - but i guess you need to use 'iwconfig wlan0 "s:key"'17:13
SYPRESS?17:13
seezerdeviance: first wlan - then tcp/ip crap ;)17:13
deviancelol17:13
seezerz1pp3r: i guess it's caused by the problem described in the bugreport/comments17:13
seezerz1pp3r: kmilo assumes the correct channel is always the first one17:14
z1pp3rseezer: yes... so it seems17:14
seezerperhaps it is correct for the one card - but not for the other17:14
z1pp3rshouldn't be that hard to fix, hopefully they'll do it soon17:14
z1pp3rsome nice dude even made a patch17:14
devianceI have set the channel But its still not accosiated17:14
seezerright. i removed kmilo and use global shortcuts in kmixer until a official fix is out17:15
seezerthis works - only the nice on screen display is missing17:15
z1pp3rkmixer can do that? Well what do you know...17:15
seezerdeviance: so _please_ try the 'key "s:yourkey"' thingy ;)17:16
z1pp3rbut removing kmilo, doesnt that break the kubuntu-default-package?17:16
devianceOkay17:16
seezerz1pp3r: that's not a problem for me17:16
seezeri'll install it when it's working again17:16
z1pp3rit is for me... i've become lazy over the years, otherwise i would still be running debian =)17:16
seezerit doesn't break anything but a virtual package17:16
seezerso it will get removed - but nothing else17:17
z1pp3rvirtual package or not, it's hard to tell what unwanted sideeffects it might produce. Anyway, thanks for your help, i'll play around a bit with it17:17
lovrehow can i get an eyecandy desktop sidebar for kde? i want it to hold my applications for quick running17:18
z1pp3rlovre: why not use the default menu bar?17:18
z1pp3ryou can add application shortcuts to the panel17:18
seezerz1pp3r: you're welcome. but trust me. the virtual package is only good for easy installation. install one package - get the whole "kubuntu experience" ;)17:19
BluesKajz1pp3r, Debian is ok if it wasn't for the poor hardware recognition , at least in my case :P17:19
SYPRESSsudo asoundconf list-what does it mean?17:19
seezerbut the experience stays the same if the virtual package is mi17:19
seezerssing ;)17:19
seezerok. i stop now ;)17:19
SYPRESScomand?17:19
deviancebut i guess you need to use 'iwconfig wlan0 "s:key"17:20
BluesKajanyway  , time to go for my flu shot ...BBL17:20
devianceI am not using a strink seezer17:20
lovrez1pp3r: i use it, but i could use another one on the right side of my desktop, to place some applications i often use.17:20
BluesKajSYPRESS,type that command in the konsole.. your available sound cards will be listed17:20
BluesKajBBL17:21
seezerdeviance: then i guess i don't know what your problem is. haven't had any problems with wlan hardware over the last 1-2 years.. i guess this is it ;)17:22
deviance:(17:22
seezerdeviance: but i bet it works if the card is detected correctly (it seems like)17:23
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deviance:(17:27
devianceI am booting into a live disk again, because that sometimes works with it17:27
SYPRESSin mixer i have no activate MASTER button ...17:28
SYPRESSwhat is it&17:28
SYPRESSwho knows?17:29
SYPRESSand there are no sound...17:30
soonIm being asked to check my personal messages (Konversation) - how do I do this ?17:33
Dr_willis- /msg msgserver help17:33
Dr_willisI think17:33
BluDog_Anchoritedoes anyone know how to change the background in fluxbox ?17:34
Dr_willisor is it memoserv17:34
Jucatomemoserv..17:34
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Dr_willisi havent had a message in ages. :)17:34
soonthx - Im not getting any messages either though17:35
z1pp3rseezer: naw, i appriciate your explaination but i had the phone ringing17:36
seezerz1pp3r: no way. there is life beyond irc?!17:38
seezerno problem :)17:38
Dr_willisBlasphmy!17:38
* ScorpKing wonders...17:38
Dr_willis:)17:38
z1pp3rseezer: i prefer to think of it as a kind of netsplit...17:38
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seezerz1pp3r: ah :D17:39
soulwarphello, i'm having trouble getting my keyboard to work on my other kubuntu system. this is the same keyboard i'm using so i know it's not a hardware issue.17:40
z1pp3rsigh... learning multithreaded programming makes my head hurt =S17:40
soulwarpi have 2 hard drives17:40
z1pp3rsorry, offtopic channel here i come17:40
soulwarpit was working earlier last night. my system stays on almost always17:41
soulwarpand it works at login17:41
soulwarpbut not when i boot into x windows17:41
hannes_kubuntu rox!17:48
* ScorpKing nods..17:49
^kaminixWhy does Flashplayer thingies lag my Konqueror, Firefox and Swiftfox up so bad?17:49
z1pp3rit really does, i'm getting more and more impressed with each release17:49
z1pp3r^kaminix: cus' flash is shit? =P17:49
^kaminixI'm longing for KDE 4, or perhaps 4.1 :)17:49
^kaminixz1pp3r: I thought it was a Firefox problem, but it's not. :( Will it be better if I use the gnash or whatever? Will it give me incompability issues?17:50
z1pp3r^kaminix: i would not use gnash, you wont be able to play back all flash with it17:51
z1pp3rbut then again, gnash is free and opensource.... good karma if you will17:51
z1pp3rand no, i dont think it's a firefox problem, especially not when you say you're having the same problems in different browsers17:52
^kaminixThat's what I thought. I just want stuff to work, I don't care if it's non-free.17:52
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z1pp3ri kind of do, but i'm a hypocrit... i mean, i wouldn't stop using the restricted drivers from nvidia17:53
soulwarpI'm having trouble with using my keyboard with my other drive on the same machine. both are using kubuntu. both systems are up to date. my keyboard works at logon but not when entering x windows.17:54
^kaminixz1pp3r: Started using Linux because I cared, continued 'cause it was better. :)17:54
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soulwarpi've also done several restarts...no joy :(17:55
lnxkdeguys I got a Ipod Gen6 Clasic I wonder if osmeone is useing these on Amarok with Gusty?17:56
soonI was asked to check my personal messages (another IRC channel), but /msg memoserv #channel ALL gives me 'MemoServ- You have no recorded memos' ... should I be doing something else ?!?17:56
maurice_hi17:57
Daisuke_Laptopsoon: PM != memo17:57
soonwhat then?17:57
z1pp3r^kaminix: unless you're a gamer, i agree completely17:57
Daisuke_Laptopsoon: i just sent a pm as well17:58
z1pp3rdamn you directx!17:58
^kaminixz1pp3r: Oh, I stopped when crossing over. Best choice of my life, stop gaming. :)17:58
z1pp3r=)17:58
_Shade_i have no sound on my kubuntu box. What should I do?17:58
Tm_T!sound | _Shade_17:58
ubotu_Shade_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:58
soulwarp!keyboard17:59
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts17:59
soulwarphm17:59
guaquahas someone else been suffering from the computer halting on gutsy when it's under heavy load?18:01
guaquai haven't been able to do large builds anymore18:01
Daisuke_Laptoperm...  nope, pretty good here18:01
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Tm_Tguaqua: definately not18:06
MRJalguem poderia me ajudar?18:06
guaquai'm thinking of building my own kernel18:06
Tm_T!br | MRJ18:06
ubotuMRJ: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:06
MRJeu gostaria de instalar um programa similar ao msn para utilizar no meu linuz18:07
MRJlinux18:07
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x_zeussanyone here knows how  to solve the installation problem with initramfs?18:09
x_zeuss???18:10
x_zeussno one?18:10
atlfalcons866can i use kde4 now18:10
atlfalcons866can i use kde4 now18:11
x_zeussit's still beta18:11
atlfalcons866isnt beta stable now18:11
z1pp3r=)18:11
x_zeussnot really18:11
z1pp3ra beta is never stable18:11
z1pp3rthats why its called a beta, and not a proper release18:11
atlfalcons866then what does alpha mean then18:12
Tm_Tatlfalcons866: alpha means bringing new features, beta means stabling18:12
atlfalcons866ok then that means windows vista is always beta then18:13
Tm_Talpha = continual breakage ; beta = not stable yet18:13
atlfalcons866will kde4 make its way into gutsy18:13
Tm_Tatlfalcons866: its already, and yes packages will be available one way or another18:14
Tm_Tbut no, it wont be default until 8.1018:14
x_zeussdoes anyone know how to solve this problem during installation: (initramfs) [ 53.053436]  ata1.00: exception Emask 0×0 SAct 0×0 SErr 0×0 action 0×2 frozen18:14
atlfalcons866how would kde4 get into gutsy if the re[pstorys are frozen18:14
guaquax_zeuss: something wrong with your disks18:14
coreymon77atlfalcons866: not by default no, but there will be kde4 packages released seperately for gutsy18:15
guaquax_zeuss: have you googled?18:15
x_zeussyes18:15
x_zeussdidn't find ANYTHING18:15
atlfalcons866threw backports?18:15
x_zeussjust other people with same problem18:15
ScorpKingx_zeuss: either the cd, hd or ram18:15
x_zeussit's not a disk error, i tried with 4 cds18:15
x_zeussand 4 hdds18:16
ScorpKingram then or even bios settings18:16
soonis there an app to develope flash on linux (like dreamweaver)?18:16
x_zeussbut 7.04 works just fine to install18:17
x_zeussso....? what's the problem?18:17
x_zeussi even tried with alternate cd18:17
coreymon77atlfalcons866: no, not backports, stable18:17
coreymon77atlfalcons866: it just will be a different repo18:17
atlfalcons866ok18:18
ScorpKingx_zeuss: ouch. good luck with that one then. ;)18:18
coreymon77atlfalcons866: there will be stable, supported gutsy packages for kde4 stable as far as i know, but it wont be installed default till 8.1018:18
x_zeussthe alternate cd gives the same error18:18
x_zeussubuntu 7.10 the same18:18
x_zeussxubuntu the same18:18
atlfalcons866alright18:19
x_zeussthe whole 7.10 suit gives the same error18:19
x_zeussno ideea?18:19
ScorpKingx_zeuss: check the ram and bios settings. other than that i have no idea. i looks like it's something with the kernel or initrd image18:20
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ScorpKingsumting is wong der. :P18:20
ScorpKinganyway, nite guys. have fun18:21
x_zeussopensuse 10.3 uses same kernel and there is no problem18:21
x_zeussbut i don't like suse18:21
atlfalcons866how long does ship it take18:22
devianceI need to install realtek drivers to use my USB wireless stick, but I cannot as I dont have the build-essentials, is the a .deb for the drivers18:22
Dr_willis_where did this .deb come from? Its odd that it would need build-essentisls.18:23
Dr_willis_Unless it actually compiles them18:23
jude_ 18:24
devianceNo, I Dont have a build essentials, so I would like a .deb for the realtek drivers18:24
Dr_willis_Hmm..18:25
mintlarsdeviance: sudo apt-get install build essentials (?)18:25
lovrewhen i write a script, how do i make sure the second line will NOT start executing untill the first line has finished?18:25
mintlars*build-essentials18:26
devianceI dont have an internet connection, so that wont work mintlars18:26
BluesKajdeviance, sudo apt-get install build-essential ...there's no "s" in the application name18:26
mintlarsok18:26
Dr_willis_lovre,  normally thats now it works.. Unless the first command ends in a & or spawns off its own process18:27
_Angelus_probably .deb is a kernel source package, it installs a .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz in you're /usr/src, then you must compile and install using module-assistant or m-a which extracts/compiles/installs that modules into you're kernel18:27
lovreDr_willis_: ok18:27
lovrei have a problem, i installed an application (matlab)  and i dont see the interface, i know its there because if i click somewhere it does something. Like menu popup. But everything is blank, i dont see it.??18:28
Dr_willis_matlab is a linux app? Hmm.18:28
Dr_willis_or are you using wine?18:29
lovreDr_willis_: no, it is matlab for linux18:29
lovreversion18:29
poison--how can i ban IP access from a  specific computer in samba?18:29
Dr_willis_Interesting.. the way youve described it. sounds like some fonts may be missing.18:29
Dr_willis_!info samba-doc18:29
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 6816 kB, installed size 14752 kB18:29
Dr_willis_poison--,  its doable I belive with the samba configs - Or you could block the ip with the proper iptables command.18:30
poison--ty buddie18:30
Dr_willis_Of course if the machine changes ip...18:30
poison--no, its fixed18:30
poison--some retard here on the company is trying to sniff my server18:31
FuseboxEllenSorry to be a bother, but I have a question, and searching via google hasn't bought up anything viable. I blacklisted something earlier, and am now trying to unblacklist it, but darn if I know how to.18:31
poison--maybe i can block the retard with the firewall18:31
devianceseezer: You were helping me with my wireless, but it has a acces point now, what should I do next18:32
Dr_willis_poison--,  thats proberly best. block him completely18:32
Dr_willis_go find him.. and pummle him in the head.18:32
Dr_willis_:) Could be some virus/spyware on his box he dont know about also.18:32
poison--:D18:33
lovreis it possible i need to isntall something? JVM maybe? im guessing, i read something where they mentioned it18:33
seezerdeviance: ?18:35
Dr_willis_http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html  - is a rather deep iptables tutorial.. wowsers.. :)18:35
seezerhm. bad timing.18:35
seezerah here he is again18:36
devianceya :D18:36
seezerdeviance: whenever you have a wlan link you could try to get an ip via dhcp or set it manually18:36
devianceOkay, how do I do it via dhcp?18:37
seezer"ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.32 netmask 255.255.255.0" something like that18:37
seezerdhclient wlan018:37
seezerfirst is manual second is dhcp18:37
devianceRight, Ill try dhcp18:38
devianceNope, nothing, Ill do it manualy then18:38
seezeryou know your ip range, right?18:39
devianceRight, i have run the top one, now what18:39
devianceErm, think so18:39
devianceNormaly it sits on 192.168.2.518:40
poison--!firewall18:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).18:40
seezerdeviance: so use something like 192.168.2.518:40
seezer;)18:40
deviance:D18:40
devianceOkay, thats done18:40
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seezeryou know the ip of your gateway?18:41
BluesKajFuseboxEllen, open the Run Command or alt+F2, click on the drop down dialog and you'll see the entry for the file you used to blacklist18:41
seezer(if it's the same you're using right now - look it up there..)18:41
deviance192.168.2.118:43
devianceI think18:43
BluesKajyes deviance that IP is pretty std18:43
FuseboxEllenYup18:43
devianceOk, so what do I do with it then seezer18:43
FuseboxEllenBluesKaj: Got the file up in Kate.18:43
_Angelus_192.168 , aint that a router's ip18:43
devianceYeah, shouldnt it be?18:44
_Angelus_dunno18:44
_Angelus_i just arrived now18:44
BluesKajok FuseboxEllen , can you rmember what the line was that you entered18:45
seezerdeviance: just type "ping 192.168.2.1"18:45
seezerand see if you get an answer18:45
arashHi, I'm using g++ through the shell to compile my code, Im new to C++ and I find no problem to compile something that has no errror, but the error message returned is impossible to understand, someone know any IDE for simple shell-run programs?18:45
devianceDestination host unreachable18:45
devianceFrom 192.168.2.518:45
seezercan you put "iwconfig wlan0" and "ifconfig wlan0" into pastebin?18:46
FuseboxEllenBluesKaj: Yup, it was "echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" sans quotations18:46
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BluesKajFuseboxEllen, why is it blacklisted again ?18:48
FuseboxEllenI was trying to get my wireless card working and following a guide on the ubuntu site for its model, but with help from the channel earlier was able to get it working. THe problem is that with the blacklist in place, every time the computer restarts I then need to sort out the wireless again due to the blacklist.18:49
devianceOk, its being a bit weird but gimme a sec18:49
Wolven_Pariah_UKanyone know where i can find glibc2.418:49
seezerdeviance: sure18:49
seezerdeviance: but my time for today is really running out18:49
devianceOk ill be wuick18:49
seezerdeviance: perhaps we have to go on tomorrow or you have to find anotherone ;)18:50
FuseboxEllenGetting called away for dinner, back soon.18:51
devianceAnything I save and move over on a usb stick turns out as all Ys18:52
seezerhm?18:53
seezerdid you unmount the stick before removing?18:53
slow-motionhi18:53
BluesKajWolven_Pariah_UK, try glibc-docs in adept18:54
Wolven_Pariah_UKill check18:54
devianceYeah18:54
DreskenLovely18:54
DreskenI just xkilled the system tray18:55
Wolven_Pariah_UKwhat repo is it in??18:55
DreskenAnyway to restore it without restarting? <_<;18:55
BluesKajWolven_Pariah_UK, just glibc or glibc-doc18:55
poison--firestarter seems nice18:55
devianceseezer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43684/18:56
Wolven_Pariah_UKit says i have glibc but truecrypt says otherwise..18:56
seezerdeviance: ok. could you please make sure your gateway has the ip you tried before?18:56
devianceHow do I change it again, Ill try a different one taht I know works18:57
seezerdeviance: ifconfig wlan0 IP netmask 255.255.255.018:58
devianceOk18:58
devianceIm getting a ping this time :D18:58
seezeryay ;)18:59
devianceI am pretty sure anyway :P18:59
lovreafter installing JVM, do i need to restart?18:59
seezerso "route add default gw IPOFYOURGATEWAY"18:59
themusicguyhelp; I can't upgrade to 7.1018:59
themusicguy404 while downloading update files18:59
BluesKaj!upgrade | themusicguy18:59
ubotuthemusicguy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:59
seezerdeviance: and then `echo "nameserver IPOFYOURGATEWAY > /etc/resolv.conf"`18:59
maduserhad the same problem, just download the alternate install disk,18:59
maduserbut nack up all your data on removeable media19:00
maduserbut back up all your data on removeable media19:00
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devianceseezer should my IP of the gateway be the same of my routers IP?19:00
DrUnKnMuNkYHey. does anyone know of any solutions to problems with suspend to disk or ram? i don't have the fglrx driver.. my video card's an intel gma950.19:01
seezerright router==gateway19:01
devianceSo, the router is 192.168.2.1, the gateway should be too19:01
seezerdeviance: exactly19:01
devianceBecause I might be pinging myself19:01
themusicguyubotu: thats for Ubuntu, I'm using Kubuntu19:02
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devianceSurely then ping 192.168.2.1 would ping myself?19:02
seezerdeviance: ah. pinging yourself should work always ;)19:02
BluesKajDrUnKnMuNkY, the fglrx driver is for ATI graphics cards , not Intel19:02
seezeragain.19:02
maduserthey are similar in  many ways19:02
devianceWell, the gateway was set to the same as the ping, so it was going to work19:02
seezerdeviance: what did you set with "ifconfig"?19:02
deviance192.168.2.119:02
seezerok. then you ping yourself. :)19:02
devianceOh I know, ill try one out of my range19:02
seezerifconfig wlan0 YOUR_IP netmask 255.255.255.019:03
seezerroute add default gw ROUTER_IP19:03
DrUnKnMuNkYBluesKay: I'm aware. I know that there is a known issue with this with fglrx drivers and I've been asked if I have an fglrx card a number of times after asking this question. Just trying to save a question.19:03
devianceMy ping doesnt get any answer :(19:04
devianceOh maybe19:04
seezerdeviance: do you use the same router right now?19:04
devianceHmm, my wireless usb stick is flashing and it hasnt doen that for a while19:04
devianceYeah19:04
themusicguyanybody having a 404 when trying to upgrade to 7.10?19:05
seezerso check the ip configuration there please19:05
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: ubotu is a bot so his answers are automated. try this page for kubuntu: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php19:05
devianceI am on windows here19:05
devianceipconfig here says my gateway is 192.168.2.119:05
BluesKajDrUnKnMuNkY, fglrx drivers don't work on Intel graphics cards ...they are written for ATI cards19:05
seezerand your ip differs from the "problem-pc" right?19:06
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: bot? Yeah...I just realized that.19:06
DaSkreech.j ps3dev19:06
devianceYeah the IP on here is 2.419:06
seezercan you ping 2.5 from your computer?19:06
devianceI think the problem is dhcp should auto assign IP's but for somereason isnt19:06
FuseboxEllenAnd back.19:06
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: do I really have to download the ISO?19:06
seezerif you set one yourself it's fine19:06
seezerdhcp does nothing you can't do by hand ;)19:07
lovrehow do i shut off compiz?19:07
devianceNope, host unreachable19:07
themusicguyseezer: try killall compiz19:07
themusicguyworks for me19:07
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: that's the only way I know of for installing ubuntu/kubuntu, since you can't be running any other OS while you install it. you'll have to boot for CD19:07
DrUnKnMuNkYfrom CD*19:07
seezeryour wlan (iwconfig) looks good, so it really should be a problem of routing or something19:07
lovrethats brute, i was thinking of a normal shutdown method19:08
seezerpaste me "route -n" please19:08
seezerbut i really have to go in a few minutes19:08
themusicguybut I already have 7.04 installed and Adept is giving me the "upgrade version" button19:08
devianceOk, I have one row that says destination 169.254.0.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.255.0.0and the interface isnt wlan019:08
devianceI need to set up a route I think19:09
themusicguyI've never had to use a CD for an upgrade before19:09
themusicguyor DVD19:09
devianceIts my ethernet interface19:09
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: sorry i didn't realize you were upgrading. type sudo apt-get install update-manager and that should install the ubuntu upgrade manager19:10
devianceARGG19:10
devianceI hate this19:10
seezerdeviance: you should have a minimum of 2 routes19:10
devianceI have a second one where everything is set to 019:10
seezerone destination 192.168.2.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 blabla iface wlan019:10
devianceNope not there atall19:11
seezerand one destination 0.0.0.0 gateway 192.168.2.1 blabla wlan019:11
devianceHow do I add a route19:11
seezerroute add default gw IP19:11
seezersets the ip19:11
seezer(of your default gw)19:11
seezerbut your interface seems down19:11
seezerjust paste "ifconfig wlan0" again please19:12
seezerit should have a line like "          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1"19:12
seezeran a inet addr: 192...19:12
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: this looks like its for Ub.  ...if I use it will it switch me from Kub. to Ub.?19:13
devianceIt has all of those but not inter addr19:13
seezerdeviance: ok. last try for today ;)19:13
devianceOK19:13
seezer/etc/init.d/dhcdbd stop19:13
seezer(all as root or via sudo!)19:13
devianceStoping daemon ok19:14
seezerthen again "ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.5 netmask 255.255.255.0"19:14
seezerrevalidate via "ifconfig wlan0"19:14
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: no, it worked for me upgrading from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.1019:14
seezervalidate that you have a correct route via "route -n"19:14
themusicguyok19:14
devianceOk19:14
devianceYes19:15
devianceIt looks like it19:15
seezerroute add default gw 192.168.2.119:15
seezerlookup routes again (route -n)19:15
seezeryou should have at least 219:15
devianceI have two wlan0 ones19:15
seezerok19:15
seezerping 72.14.221.10419:16
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devianceNope nothing19:16
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: it says  Failed to fetch http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/dists/fesity/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found19:16
devianceOhh wait19:16
devianceNo I am getting something, a 2 second delay19:16
seezerdeviance: grr :)19:16
seezersounds good19:16
themusicguyI checked in Firefox; the file doesn't exist19:17
seezersomething like 64 bytes from fg-in-f104.google.com (72.14.221.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=21.2 ms19:17
devianceYeah :D19:17
seezerok19:17
seezernow last step19:17
seezerecho "nameserver 192.168.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf19:17
deviancesudo?19:17
seezerright19:17
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: did you copy and paste that? it looks like there's a type in there: fesity instead of feisty19:17
seezeror edit that file and write the given text into it19:18
themusicguyYes, copy and pasted19:18
FuseboxEllenQuestion here, in trying to edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist it says that I don't have permission to alter the file (in order to remove an item mistakenly blacklisted), I've tried booting in console mode only to sudoedit the file, but that doesn't let me save it either, siting permission issues.19:18
fluf__hey, im a newbie to linux19:18
seezerthen you should have your freakin wlan internet running19:18
seezerand i can leave! *dance* :)19:18
devianceLol, its says permission denied, but I was running under sudo19:18
BluesKajFuseboxEllen,  alt+F2 ,kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist19:19
seezerdeviance: do it that way: "kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf"19:19
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: i'll check it out19:19
FuseboxEllenAlright BluesKaj, will give that a go19:19
seezerand write only the line "nameserver 192.168.2.1" into it19:19
seezersave and quit19:19
devianceOk19:20
seezerping www.google.com19:20
seezeror any other site19:20
seezeror whatsoever19:20
themusicguyI think I can fix that typo.19:20
seezer;)19:20
devianceOk19:20
themusicguyhang on...19:20
devianceUnknown host :(19:20
devianceThanks for your help, I cannot be bothered anymore19:21
devianceI appreciate it19:21
seezer;) you get that running19:21
devianceIll try :P19:21
seezerjust set the same ip into resolv.conf that you have on your windows machine19:21
devianceYeah19:21
seezererr.19:21
seezeras DNS server19:21
fluf__i have a stupid question ive just downloaded cube 2 and dont know how to install/ run / anything except etract it. would like to know if anyone can help me and mabe help with just plain konsole commands like hoew to install and run stuff19:21
devianceOk19:21
themusicguyIt didn't work19:21
themusicguybut the file mentioned doesn't exist19:22
seezerok. the other guys and girls here get you through that ;)19:22
seezerbye bye19:22
themusicguythere doesn't appear to be any typos in the URL part,19:22
devianceBye bye19:22
devianceI think its a bad wifi usb thing, I get some bites, then I get none19:23
devianceAll at 2 second delat19:23
deviancedelay19:23
FuseboxEllenBluesKaj: That did it, thank you very much for your assistance. :)19:23
BluesKajNP FuseboxEllen ..glad to help :)19:24
FuseboxEllenI'll try to help someone in kind for the  help I've gotten on here today. Karma, after all.19:24
roomulohello..19:25
themusicguydid some recon; this is the base url for the update server that the update manager is using: http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/dists/19:25
ELMANIFICOИма ли някой от България?19:25
BluesKaj!ru | ELMANIFICO19:25
ubotuELMANIFICO: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke19:25
roomulomy amarok displays this message: "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy."19:26
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: i'm trying to find where update-manager stores its settings so you can put the right repo into the settings file19:26
roomuloanyone know how to fix this except reboot?19:26
themusicguy DrUnKnMuNkY: Look at this: http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/dists/19:26
themusicguythats the base URL.19:27
Kernelhello all how do i add a public key for the repos?...i forget the commands19:27
themusicguyNothing after the final / exists on that server.19:27
Kernel!key19:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:27
themusicguythere's no dir for feisty; just dapper, edgy, etc.19:27
BluesKajDrUnKnMuNkY, try the /etc/apt/sources.list but changing it in order to upgrade your OS isn't recommended19:27
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: this could be it: http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/dists/ubuntu/dupdate/binary-i386/19:28
DrUnKnMuNkYnot sure though19:28
* hoc est un lapin rose19:28
roomulohello, my amarok displays the message: "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy." and don't play music anymore19:28
roomuloanyone know how to fix this except reboot?19:28
BluesKaj!patience | roomulo19:28
uboturoomulo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines19:28
Kernelroomulo: try to close amarok. then type killall artsd then try to play the song again19:29
themusicguyroomulo: can anything else play sound?19:29
anton_anyone know what to do about pidgins bad file transfer speeds?19:30
FuseboxEllenBluesKaj: Just to let you know, that did the trick exactly, upon reboot I could access my wireless connection with a click, no problems with the device not being detected. So thanks again ;)19:32
roomuloBluesKaj: i'm sorry, i thought that because of the other messages the people had not seen mine19:32
anton_noone has any idea about pidgins crappy transfer speeds? :P19:32
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: I haven't been able to find anything. try hitting alt+f2 and typing update-manager --dist-upgrade19:32
roomuloKernel: i tried, but the amarok is frozen after launched19:34
User2007hello19:34
roomuloand, No, themusicguy19:34
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Kernelroomulo: oh hmm im not realy sure then sorry19:34
Kerneli prefer xmms over amarok myself19:34
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: I'm trying the url...hang on19:35
roomuloi think the problem is not amarok because Kaffeine also freeze ;)19:35
roomuloKernel19:35
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themusicguynope...same error19:35
BluesKajroomulo, in the konsole type : sudo asoundconf list ...it lists your available soundcards19:36
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: try asking in #ubuntu. it's the same software.. it's basically just a script that updates the right packages and fixes the sources.list as well as a few other things. they may be able to help you there.19:37
roomulo"Names of available sound cards: ICH5", BluesKaj19:37
roomulo(i'll need reboot i guess =/)19:37
BluesKajroomulo, ok , then choose the soundcard :sudo asoundconf set-default-card "ICH5"19:38
roomuloBluesKaj: done19:39
themusicguyhang on... the  update-manager --dist-upgrade is doing something.19:39
BluesKajroomulo, relogin and try to play some media19:39
themusicguywhile that's going, I have another question:19:40
themusicguyAmarok suddenly can't play MP3s anymore. Neither can Konqueror.19:40
themusicguySomething about a missing plugin.19:40
roomuloBluesKaj, roger that... i'll come back :)19:41
themusicguyI didn't uninstall anything, so I don't know what its talking about.19:41
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roomuloBluesKaj: didn't works...19:44
roomulo:(19:44
BluesKaj!Gutsy19:44
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents19:44
roomuloi'll reboot19:44
roomulothank you, BluesKaj19:45
Bunnywabbit2erm... hello. I new to linux and i just killed the KDE taskbar by Ctrl-Alt_Esc clicking on it. I don know how to raise the command line or what to type there. I would appreciate any help :)19:46
llutzBunnywabbit2: alt-f2: kicker19:46
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themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: the updater is hanging on "setting up kubuntu-desktop"19:46
Bunnywabbit2thanks19:46
BluesKajsudo apt-get upgrade  && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:47
Bunnywabbit2hmm... "the command "kicker" failed to run: Faild to execute child process "kicker"  (no such file or directory)19:48
BluesKajthemusicguy,try this in the konsole :  sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:49
SpinBosonHow do I disallow a user to change their password?19:49
themusicguythe upgrade tool seems to be stuck.19:49
TheWozAhey guys im trying to get Wine for my kubuntu install but the WINEHQ only has it for ubuntu will that still work on kubuntu?19:50
themusicguyTheWozA: probably.19:50
themusicguyI think I tried that once; it seems ok19:50
DrUnKnMuNkYthemusicguy: it takes a while. it may unfreeze19:51
Q-collectiveTheWozA: wine is not dependant on any gnome or kde packages, so yes, it'll work19:52
trappistTheWozA: unless you're running 64bit19:53
TheWozAk thx19:54
TheWozAgah lame19:55
TheWozAmy terminal just closed when i tryed installing ati drivers19:55
jakob_SDUhas anyone in here experienced usb mass storage problems with gutsy?19:56
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trappistjakob_SDU: no way, I actually have a usb mass storage device that didn't work *until* gutsy19:58
jakob_SDUtrappist: weird... It's a bitch 'cause I cant' download from my camera :-\20:00
jakob_SDUPLUS it's the same on my laptop AND desktop box.20:01
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Bunnywabbit2hi, i'm trying to set up a wireless connection on my kubuntu laptop via an ASUS PCMIA card20:04
Bunnywabbit2i'm  in the network settings panel, and have filled in all the fields, i think20:04
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Bunnywabbit2still no dice20:04
themusicguyDrUnKnMuNkY: its still stuck. Hard drive's not doing anything.20:04
Bunnywabbit2does anyone have any ideas?20:05
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: Do you have the network manager applet visible?20:07
Bunnywabbit2yes, thanks20:07
alexmicHi I've got a little problem on ssh X11 forwarding " forwardX11 yes" and "X11 forwarding yes" are set both on my server and client yet I can't display xclock. xhost + (on server) gives an error (actually it hangs by now) and "export DISPLAY=client_ip:0.0" gives " Error: Can't open display:192..." and "export DISPLAY=server_ip:0" results in a hang but no xclock on the server screen.20:07
Bunnywabbit2looking at it20:07
trappistalexmic: you don't want to export DISPLAY when you do ssh X11 forwarding20:08
Bunnywabbit2it picked up my essid fine20:08
Bunnywabbit2i'm not sure about whether the authorization went ok20:08
alexmictrappist: well actually I do :p, but only in the local network...20:09
zyntaxsom one swedish here?20:09
zyntaxneed som help whit wine^^20:09
trappistalexmic: what makes you think you do?20:09
zyntaxnån som kan hjälpa mej instalera wine?20:11
anton_when i run compiz --replace, I get this error message. Why? http://pastebin.org/734620:11
joe4288hi im having trouble setting up my wireless network card20:11
twylighthello20:12
Bunnywabbit2does kubuntu's  network settings applet support TKIP encryption?20:12
twylighttesting bitchx20:12
alexmictrappist: well, first of all for testing reasons, see if it works well and stuff, and eventually see if I can launch X apps in a "screen" session on a deported PC (with more CPU and disk space) and check the progress not having to start the monitor (which happen to be my TV) for that.20:12
joe4288its a netgear wg311tv120:12
twylightkthxbai20:12
trappist!se20:12
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se20:12
anton_Zyntax: English please. Höhö.20:12
zyntaxanton_: okey20:12
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: it should.. Haven' tried myself though.20:13
dedii have very high iowait cpu usage and would like to find out why. can anyone help me?20:13
anton_Zyntax: I'll link a guide...hold on20:13
Bunnywabbit2ok20:13
anton_ok...he left...20:13
trappistalexmic: when you forward X11 over ssh, your X11 connection automatically goes back to the client over an encrypted channel.  when you export DISPLAY you override that and try to make X11 connect directly to another X session20:14
Bunnywabbit2weird. So is there any way to figure out what is going wrong?20:14
BluesKajdedi, install htop , it lists all running apps and services and how much cpu they're using20:14
joe4288can any  help me with setting up a netgear wg311t wireless net work card20:14
alexmictrappist: ok, good to know... and how can I reset my DISPLAY value?20:15
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dediBluesKaj: its the iowait causing the usage, you cant see that there20:16
alexmicstrange yet because I think I tried xclock from scratch with no success...20:16
Arwenalexmic, maybe with "DISPLAY=:0"?20:16
joe4288hello is there any 1 that can help me set up my wireless network card :)20:17
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: If it doesn't detect the encryption method correctly it might be a driver problem. You using ndiswrapper?20:18
Bunnywabbit2i don't know what that is20:18
alexmicArwen: trappist : well it worked but actually showed the clock on the server side ;)20:18
Bunnywabbit2i'm not sure about the encryption method, itś just the only setting i can t find a corresponding field for20:19
alexmiclogged out and in and now xclock "Error: Can't open display:"20:19
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: Usually it will autodetect the correct auth method, if the card is supported20:19
cplusplushow could i start sshd from livecd?20:21
cplusplus??20:21
cplusplus/etc/init.d/sshd or ssh start     ....doenst wort!!!20:22
Bunnywabbit2well, it probably got the password type correct, i don't remember. There is no setting for encryption type, so i guess it supposed to figure that out on its own.20:22
ArwenI would assume you'd need to install sshd, cplusplus20:22
cpluspluson livecd?20:22
Arwenor, openssh-server20:22
alexmiccplusplus: are you sure sshd is included in the cd?20:22
Arwenalexmic, it's not20:22
Bunnywabbit2the asus CD comes with driver packages i'm supposed to compile, which i don know how to do.20:22
cplusplusand now?20:22
cplusplusi need ssh on livecd20:23
cplusplus!!20:23
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: for linux ? :-)20:23
* Bunnywabbit2 is fiddling with his first linux install 20:23
Arwenno need to yell, "apt-get install openssh-server"20:23
Bunnywabbit2:)20:23
cplusplusok20:23
cplusplusfailed to fetch...20:23
cplusplushttp://arschive.ubuntu.com ... not found20:23
Bunnywabbit2err yes, the drivers are for linux20:24
alexmiclol20:24
trappistalexmic: try ssh -v -X hostname and look for: debug1: Remote: No xauth program; cannot forward with spoofing.20:24
cplusplusah need update20:24
cplusplusno20:24
cpluspluslol20:24
Arwenheh20:24
trappistalexmic: or take the shortcut and sudo apt-get install xauth on the remote machine :)20:24
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: If they release souce drivers, they are probably included already20:25
Bunnywabbit2ah, interesting tidbit: in the network-name dropdown list, it shows my network as 0%20:25
Bunnywabbit2this is a dual boot system, and XP works fine, so itś not a hardware thing20:25
BluesKajcplusplus, the URL is :  http://archive.ubuntu.com/20:25
Bunnywabbit2so i guess i'm lost in driverland20:26
alexmictrappist: xauth is already up to date :(20:26
trappistalexmic: look for other hints in ssh -v (and xauth is already installed on both ends?)20:26
cplusplusproblem -> http://www.rafb.net/p/JPhrT232.html20:27
trappistalexmic: maybe you could pastebin the output of ssh -v -X hostname20:27
cpluspluswhats wrong bluekaj?20:28
BluesKajcplusplus, dunno if the breezy reositories are still being maintained ...that's a rather outdated kubuntu release20:29
cplusplusand now?20:29
BluesKajerr repositories20:29
Bunnywabbit2jakob_SDU: ah sorry i missed your last chat20:29
cplusplusany solution?20:29
Arwenoh, breezy repositories are taken down20:29
Arwenyou should upgrade20:29
alexmictrappist: sure, (btw yes xauth is on both sides) http://pastebin.com/d41a82086 << here20:29
cplusplusfuck....thats the only livecd20:29
Arwensay, why do you need to ssh to a livecd?20:29
cplusplusto repair somth20:30
Arwenerr..20:30
BluesKajcplusplus, just to be sure run this in the konsole: lsb_release -a20:30
Bunnywabbit2jakob_SDU: so how do i find out if the card is installed properly?20:30
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BluesKajcplusplus, to upgrade the newest kubuntu release, http://kubuntu.org/download.php20:31
trappistalexmic: unfortunately there's nothing there describing a problem with X11 forwarding.  you don't maybe set your DISPLAY in a .bashrc or similar on the remote end, do you?20:31
cplusplusshitt20:31
cplusplussucks20:31
BluesKaj!language | cplusplus20:32
ubotucplusplus: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.20:32
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: If it detects the network name it must be installed-- but if it doesnt work then that's the tricky bit ;-)20:33
alexmictrappist: Nope grep X11 or DISPLAY on .bashrc gives nothing20:33
Bunnywabbit2well, it does detect the network name, but does not receive correctly.20:34
alexmicneither on /root/.bashrc nor /etc/bash.bashrc20:35
trappistalexmic: wait you're doing this as root?20:35
alexmicof course not20:35
trappistok :)20:35
trappistalexmic: and your sshd_config on the remote end says X11Forwarding yes ?20:36
Bunnywabbit2jakob_SDU: hmmm ...  okay, is there some kind of diagnostic tool out there that i can use ?20:37
alexmictrappist: yes http://pastebin.com/d3b226cf220:37
alexmic(bottom)20:38
trappistalexmic: I'm stumped :/20:39
jakob_SDUBunnywabbit2: I'm no expert, I would google the card model with "linux driver" to find out if it's supported by the kernel. If it's not, you can probably use the "ndiswrapper" thing, which is a bit tricky, but there are some good guides :)20:39
Bunnywabbit2jakob_SDU: okay, iĺl try the that20:40
Bunnywabbit2including the ndiswrapper thing20:40
alexmictrappist: strange thing is not it, thanks for your help anyway, really appreciated. If I come across a solution I will come back here to tell you20:40
Bunnywabbit2thanks for helping, i have to go now20:40
trappistalexmic: that would be great, thanks20:41
Bunnywabbit2i'll be back with more delightful issues :)20:41
Bunnywabbit2good day, afternoon, evening or night20:41
alexmictrappist: and anyway as you said, X forwarding is evil so...20:42
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alexmicI might even be able to achieve with dcop !20:43
RLoggiaanyone know the command line to get twinview for extended desktop with Nvidia?20:43
fdovingalexmic: what are you trying to do?20:49
devianceDoes anyone have a plug and play linux wireless card at all? One that just worked with Ubuntu out of the box with no messing arround?20:50
fdovingdeviance: intel ones usually do.20:50
TheWozAhey guys how do i get a flash player working in konqueror i have firefox installed but i would prefer to use konq20:50
ardchoilleTheWozA: I use konq, I installed the flash plugin and it just worked20:51
TheWozAi installed it but wont work still20:51
Daisuke_Laptopintel yes, linksys sometimes20:51
TheWozAworks fine on firefox20:51
TheWozAjust not konq20:51
Daisuke_Laptoplinksys cards tend to have a ralink chipset20:51
ardchoilleTheWozA: Restarted konq?20:51
TheWozAyeah20:51
deviance!ndiswrapper20:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:51
dragonathhi20:51
ardchoilleTheWozA: Settings > Configure Konq > Plugins.. click the "Scan for new plugins" button20:52
TheWozAthx arch20:52
TheWozAard*20:52
ardchoilleyw20:52
dragonathany hardcore scripters around? :)20:53
JohnFlux_why would my usb key be read only? :)20:53
JohnFlux_I have this one usb key that I cannot write to, only read from20:53
JohnFlux_other usb keys work fine20:53
fdovingdragonath: depends on how hardcore :)20:53
JohnFlux_it's mounted rw20:53
TheWozAahh it found it :) thx again ard20:53
Daisuke_LaptopJohnFlux_: what's the filesystem on it?20:53
dragonathmaybe it's mounted readonly?20:53
JohnFlux_vfat20:53
Daisuke_Laptophrmm20:54
boggystudiosI am having trouble getting my rss feed to work using live bookmarks in firefox20:54
JohnFlux_dragonath: mounted rw20:54
ubuntu_hi, just trying to install latest ubuntu on laptop external USB2 drive. unfortunately it has locked up in KDE. the "Install" window does not update, and neither does the popup "instlaling system" progress bar.  the "ubiquity" process is still using 95% of CPU! any ideas?20:54
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boggystudioshere is the link   http://www.21cschools.org/rss/rss2.xml20:54
dragonathwell, I need a script that finds .zip files from a directory and it's subdirectories, then unzips them one by one and tar.gz's them back20:54
dragonathI can find the zip files alright20:54
dragonathand unzip with the -exec thingie on find as well20:54
dragonathbut how can I tar them without getting the folder name from somewhere?20:55
now3dmy other question was about the grub installer. it offered to install that on sda, not my external USB2 drive.. so is it going to mean my windows sda drive will not boot unless USB2 drive is plugged in now..?20:55
Daisuke_Laptopboggystudios: there's a problem on their end, i can't subscribe either (and i use a LOT of live bookmarks)20:55
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lovrehi20:56
now3danyone able to help...?20:56
lovrecan i change a single icon's size on desktop?20:56
now3dhi lovre!20:56
boggystudiosDaisuke_Laptop: I created the rss feed but I don't know why it isn't working, It works on my google home page20:57
boggystudiosDaisuke_Laptop: I am sure that I just left something out but figuring out what is a pain.20:58
now3danyone one around to help..!?21:02
lovrecan you repeat your question?21:02
lovrei wasnt her21:02
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now3dhi, just trying to install latest ubuntu on laptop external USB2 drive. unfortunately it has locked up in KDE. the "Install" window does not update, and neither does the popup "instlaling system" progress bar.  the "ubiquity" process is still using 95% of CPU! any ideas?21:05
ubuntuhello21:06
nosrednaekimhey ubuntu21:06
lovrenow3d: i had similliar problem. Couldnt fix it. I formated the hdd and clean install... no ideas21:06
lovreany1 know how to change icon size on desktop (just one)?21:06
nosrednaekimlovre: you can't21:07
xapperHi, have just bought a belking F5D8051 N1 wireless USB adaptor that i would like to install using ndiswrapper. I have gutsy 64 bit installed. IS it likely that the ndiswrapper will work with the 32bit driver supplied. (have already had problems with a D link 32bit driver hence replacement device).21:07
nosrednaekimuntil KDE4:D21:07
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nosrednaekimxapper: 32 bit driver with 64 bit linux will not work21:07
nosrednaekim!hardware | xapper21:08
ubotuxapper: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport21:08
lovrenosrednaekim: too bad :(21:08
xapperthats nosred, ill have to take the damn thing back and try something different21:08
darkloshello21:08
lovrecan i at leat enlarge all icons on desktop? (not the ones in d3lphin)21:08
nosrednaekimxapper: yeah... research next time, there are linux supported ones21:08
nosrednaekimlovre: maybe...IDK.21:08
xapperyeah i did some reserach but it stil lwasnt easy and didnt pay off21:09
Milkinatorwhat is the video card help channel?21:09
lovreIDK?21:09
xapperif i revert to 32bit ubuntu it might just work21:09
nosrednaekimlovre: I don't know21:10
nosrednaekimxapper: possibly21:10
now3dlovre do you know about grub?21:10
now3dmy other question was about the grub installer. it offered to install that on sda, not my external USB2 drive.. so is it going to mean my windows sda drive will not boot unless USB2 drive is plugged in now..?21:10
Daisuke_Laptopboggystudios: take a look at this: http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot21:10
xappercan anyone recommend a good usb wireless for 64bit either pci or usb?21:10
Daisuke_Laptopsee if you can find something that's necessary21:11
Daisuke_Laptophere's a thought for wireless problems (if the money's available) - would those wired > wireless game console adapters work?21:11
Daisuke_Laptopit's essentially a wired connection to an AP, from there it's wireless to the main router21:12
now3dxapper: my usb edimax works well.. think that will work on 64bit? shows up as ZyDAS21:12
now3dshould "ubiquity" take so long to install on lapotp?21:13
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xapperah cool thanks now3d21:14
xapperi was starting to think Zydas chipset was the way to go21:14
now3dbetter than cacky broadcom!21:14
nosrednaekim!hardware | xapper21:16
ubotuxapper: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport21:16
xapperyeah ive looked there thanks guyz, have it bookmarked21:16
kmanhow do i download firefox21:17
Wulongkman: open adept, search for firefox and mark it as install.21:17
WulongAn easier way is to tupe "sudo apt-get install firefox -y" in a terminal.21:17
lovrewhere are icons placed in kubuntu?21:17
nosrednaekimlovre: /usr/share/icons21:18
Daisuke_Laptopthe -y option is not recommended.21:18
xapperok next question, once i get my wireless up and running i want to use my ubuntu os as a media server (im trying to get rid of XP!!!). is there and equivalent of Tversity for linux that can convert audio/video on the fly so i can access it on ps3?21:18
kmanit did not work wulong21:19
WulongWhat did it say?21:19
WulongDaisuke_Laptop: why is -y not recommended in this case? firefox don't depend on many packages.21:20
anton_how to watch webcam in pidgin?21:20
Daisuke_Laptopjust not good form - remember, this is part of what made automatix so volatile21:20
Daisuke_Laptopin this case, it wouldn't hurt21:20
Daisuke_Laptopbut getting into the habit of using -y is likely to create issues down the line21:21
xapperi think elisa media center can stream content but i dont think it has on the fly capability (looks like ill be stuck with xp a while longer)21:22
Daisuke_Laptoplinuxmce?21:22
ian|Hi! I'm trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and followed the instructions on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade21:24
ian|When I'm finish the Version Upgrade (http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/snapshot8.png), nothing happens.21:25
kmansorry about that21:26
Wulongian|: got to terminal and do "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade" as root.21:26
kmanit said "Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package."21:26
ian|Wulong: i will try so21:26
ian|BTW: On konsole, the error "Unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first."  is stated21:27
Wulongkman: apt-get install mozilla-firefox then.21:27
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | ian|21:27
ubotuian|: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:27
ian|I think this is caused by the running adept_manager. In the message box is said that adept_manger will close. But this does not happen.21:27
Wulongian|: do what ubotu just said.21:28
ian|nosrednaekim, Wulong: I that 1 milisecond when the version-upgrade is started?21:28
ian|The locking program is the running adept_manager which starts the version updater.21:29
dragonathwhat's wrong with this line: find . -name '*.zip' -exec unzip '{}' -d `sed s/.zip/_/ '{}'` \;21:29
* nosrednaekim 's eyes hurt21:29
Wulongdragonath: what are you trying?21:30
ian|Wulong: dist-upgrade is not a version upgrade21:30
dragonathto find every zip file and unzip them to a directory named just like the zip file without the extension21:31
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fdovingdragonath: try: for i in $(find . -name '*.zip');do unzip -d ${i%%.zip} $i;done21:34
dragonathdoesn't work with folder names that have spaces in21:35
nosrednaekimdragget rid of the quotes on the .zip part maybe21:36
OuZohow can i create a bluetooth pan between 2 kubuntu pc's ?21:36
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dragonathyou mean -  find . -name *.zip -exec unzip '{}' -d `sed s/.zip/_/ '{}'` \; ?21:36
Downixok, my Kubuntu install seems to have died21:37
nosrednaekimdragonath: try it.... I never used quotes.21:37
Downixor not21:37
Downixit looks... maybe... it might be running again21:37
dragonathwell it does find the zip files21:38
dragonathbut it can't get it's ass to exctract them :)21:38
fdovingdragonath: what about: for i in "$(find . -name '*.zip')";do unzip -d "${i%%.zip}" "$i";done21:40
xapperOk, ive been looking in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport to try and track down a wireless usb or pci adaptor to work with 64bit install of gutsy. Doesnt always seem too clear about which system (32/64) the adaptors work on. does anyone have a wireless card working on 64bit gutsy?21:40
nosrednaekimxapper: anything that has native support (i.e. without ndiswrapper) will work with both 32 and 64 bit21:42
LjLsmile_yess, yes?21:42
fdovingdragonath: even: for i in "$(find . -name '*.zip')";do unzip -d "${i%%.zip}" "$i";tar -cjvf "${i%%.zip}".tar.gz "${i%%.zip}";done   - might do what you really want. not sure how it works with subdirs. as $i will contain the path from the current dir.21:42
smile_yesspagi..................21:42
xapperthanks nosred21:42
livingdaylighthello people of kubuntu21:42
dragonathhmm21:42
livingdaylightcan one use katapult in gnome?21:43
smile_yesshelooooooooo.............21:43
smile_yesshai.............21:43
DarkLegacyHey guys21:43
DarkLegacyI have Compiz running21:43
DarkLegacyAnd I have wobbly windows on, it's great and all21:43
DarkLegacyBut how to I see the huge desktop cube?21:43
smile_yessheyyyyyyyyy.................21:43
dragonathit says bad substitution21:43
smile_yesswhat............21:43
nosrednaekimDarkLegacy: you may have to enable it in the compizconfig-settings-manager21:44
DarkLegacyThe settings manager is running21:44
DarkLegacyI enabled "Desktop Cube"21:44
livingdaylightkatapult in gnome - possibilee?21:45
xapperdarkleg, first make sure you have four desktops21:45
dragonathlivingdaylight: I think so'21:45
dragonathyou just need some kde compatibility thingies21:46
nosrednaekimDarkLegacy: try ctrl+alt+right arrow21:46
xapperthen hold down ctrl and alt and left click and drag mouseat edge of desktop21:46
DarkLegacyCtrl Alt Right arrow flips to desktop #221:46
smile_yessalright guys.??21:46
DarkLegacyOh21:46
DarkLegacyCtrl + Alt21:46
livingdaylightdragonath: APT would install katapult in gnome?21:46
DarkLegacyAnd drag21:46
DarkLegacyI see, thank you xapper21:46
DarkLegacyI only have two desktops21:46
xappernp21:46
DarkLegacyHow do I enable all four?21:46
livingdaylighti thought it was a kde thingy only21:46
nosrednaekimDarkLegacy: general-> desktop size->horizontal desktop size21:47
xapperright click on the desktops in bottom right hand corner and select in preferences21:47
DarkLegacyBeautiful, thank you21:47
xapper4 columns 1 row (in ubuntu) not sure in KDE21:47
DarkLegacyMan, this is freaking COOL!21:48
DarkLegacyI love it!21:48
livingdaylightanyone here know for sure whether katapult works in gnome? sorry to ask here but over at ubuntu dey not sure21:48
nosrednaekimlivingdaylight: try it :D21:48
DarkLegacyAbuse!21:48
xapperyeah it does21:48
DarkLegacyYay! I loved that game.21:48
xapperwell it loads up ok21:48
DarkLegacyLinux seems to be only 4 years behind Windows 3D game development.21:48
DarkLegacyEr, 3 years*.21:49
DarkLegacyWolfenstein 3D: Enemy Territory is our latest21:49
DarkLegacyAs well as Doom 321:49
livingdaylightnosrednaekim: that's one way, but i don't wanna download half the kde libraries to find out that it doesn't, know hwat i meant ese? :s21:49
xapperi use ps3 for gaming, not much of gamer on pc21:49
dragonathlivingdaylight: yes, with all the stuff it needs I think21:49
nosrednaekimlivingdaylight: ah21:49
smile_yessjoin donk.............??????????21:50
DarkLegacyI'm a heavy PC gamer21:51
DarkLegacySo that's why I had to dual boot Kubuntu/WindowsXP3221:51
DarkLegacyAfter installing Kubuntu, and going back into Windows; it felt like I was playing with Gerber toys.21:51
DarkLegacyLinux required so much effort to install properly on RAID-0, it just blew my mind.21:51
DarkLegacyIt installed so quickly also (copying from CD)21:51
DarkLegacyBut I'm glad I made the switch21:52
nosrednaekimDarkLegacy: yeah... I did RAID1 on my friends computer... took 3 hours on windows, 30 minutes on linux21:52
DarkLegacyOn Windows, it took me less than 20 minutes to reformat unfortunately21:52
DarkLegacyI slipstreamed SP2, latest updates, and RAID drivers onto the CD21:52
nosrednaekimah. :D21:52
DarkLegacySo it came with most of the stuff filled in already21:52
DarkLegacyAll I had to do was sit back and watch it go21:52
nosrednaekimof course... this was hardware RAID21:53
DarkLegacyWith Linux, there was the installing dmraid, partitioning manually, formatting manually, configuring grub manually, aghh >_<21:53
nosrednaekimwhich I guess is the exact opposite by way of comaptibility21:53
DarkLegacyThree hours to install Kubuntu on RAID-021:53
DarkLegacyWhich isn't that bad21:53
DarkLegacyI'm suprised by the amount of my hardware that's supported21:53
DownixDarkLegacy, I did the same, but Cedega allowed me to give up Windows entirely.21:53
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: That's horrible21:53
DarkLegacyIt recognized my ethernet card, my raid drivers, my video card, my monitor, etc21:54
DarkLegacyEven my sound card!21:54
DarkLegacySo in terms of drivers, Kubuntu is ++21:54
DarkLegacyRecognized everything, first boot21:54
xapperwhat is katapult btw?21:54
DarkLegacyLet me try out Abuse now (game) :)21:54
nosrednaekimxapper: quick launcher21:54
DaSkreech!katapult21:54
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.21:54
DownixI think it's funny, Kubuntu could handle my sons sound card and windows can't.  (company which made it was bought by CL, who quietly dropped the drivers a few years back)21:55
DownixDarkLegacy, Which games?21:55
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: Kinda funny that people are still amazed that Linux even installs on the computer. Guess that means we still have a way to go21:55
DaSkreechPeople should be outraged when it doesn't21:56
DarkLegacyWell, the amount of work required to install Kubuntu on a RAID-0 config is daunting at first21:56
roob!myth21:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:57
DarkLegacyAbuse is running very well21:57
roob!mythtv21:57
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV21:57
DarkLegacySDL21:57
DarkLegacyMythTV?21:57
DarkLegacyOoh, nice!21:57
xapperim very new to linux and loving it21:57
roobok i want to use mythtv but i dont want to install mythbuntu...it installs SO much stuff...21:57
xapperi tried to install it on my dads pc the other evening and couldnt get it to work21:58
roobive set up mythtv before so im familier with it.....but is there a guide to  setting it up without mythbuntu?21:58
LogicalDashI manually configured my wireless connection once, and now I can't get NetworkManager to take control again. How do I do it?21:58
DaSkreechxapper: Welcome to Kubuntu21:58
DarkLegacyBut yeah, compared to like21:58
DarkLegacyKnoppix back in 199421:58
DarkLegacyLinux has come a really far way21:58
xapperThanks Daskreech!21:58
DaSkreechroob: did you even read what ubotu said ?21:58
roobyes21:59
DaSkreechDarkLegacy: Duuuuh. But not far enough apparently21:59
roobthey all want you to install mythbuntu...which i dont want. i installed it a few days ago and it installed ALL sorts of servers(apache being one) and whole new desktop....21:59
nosrednaekimLogicalDash: edit /etc/network/interfaces and erase all of the entries21:59
xapperIm hoping that Microsoft OS's for me will soon be a distant memory21:59
roobit bit much when all i want is mythtv21:59
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DaSkreechroob: Did you look at the URL ?22:00
nosrednaekimroob: ah... well, any mythtv guide whould do then22:00
roobwell i ran into issues with the data base set up.22:00
roobthere was no provided mythDB to import22:00
roobim used to installing it then importing the original DB then running mythfilldatabase22:01
nosrednaekimoh22:01
LogicalDashHow do I enable wireless roaming mode?22:03
DarkLegacyHey guys, my sound card is recognized by Linux, but no sound comes out when I try to play something :P22:03
roobalso does anyone here use ivtv? and possibly ivtv-channel.py ...ive use this script for a while now ..but now on kubuntu it no longer works.22:03
Vermuxhow do I know what file system do I have?22:17
Vermuxwhat command in the terminal can I use to see information on the file system22:18
Vermux??22:18
Vermuxanybody?22:19
g2g591hold on i think i know22:19
Solifuguswhat kind of info?22:19
Solifugusdf -h22:19
Solifugusls22:19
SolifugusVermux: need more specificity22:20
tuxwulf_cat /etc/mtab22:20
Solifugusoh.. ok.. look at /etc/fstab22:20
tuxwulf_Oh yes, fstab probably better22:20
tuxwulf_sorry it's early22:20
Solifugusit's late..22:21
tuxwulf_Any idea how to get my RAID 0 going ...?22:24
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mizipzorkopete crashes on startup... no idea why... its just when i sign in... what should i do?22:29
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mizipzorive just installed kubuntu, havent changed anything22:30
ubuntu_siemanko22:30
tuxwulfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43711/22:31
slow-motionn822:32
now3dhi, my grub is installed on the wrong drive.. is there a way to fix hte MBR to boot again?22:34
lovresomething is messing up with my sound. i cant play any file with amarok, says the device is busy22:39
roobhello all....setting up mythtv here..... but i keep getting this error : http://pastebin.ca/765297  ..ive messed with passwords..but i cant get it to work22:40
bmk789does KDE keep a log a remote connection attempts?22:41
Daisuke_Idoauthentication log, i suppose22:42
ErtainHello everyone.  When I move my cursor too far on the screen it moves to the next desktop.  Is there any way to stop that?22:42
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rooball im getting is this :22:42
roobmysql -p -u mythtv mysql22:42
roobEnter password:22:42
roobERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)22:42
mizipzoris there a way to defien a new keyboard layout? the one i want is not in the list22:43
now3droob: think mysql has seprate passowrds22:45
roobnow3d: yea i set a "root" mysql password. mythtv also generates a random password...neither of which work22:45
roobi imported a base mythtv data base from : /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql22:46
zyp1easy question; whats the name for the panel-bar with the icons of running apps? Those minimized right next to the clock.. It's not here anymore....22:46
roobwhich seemed to wrok22:46
bluekbEach time a secondary user logs in ("switch user") the first user on my system seems to lose sound support.  Can this behavior be changed?22:47
guillaumehi everyone !22:49
guillaumeis there some french people there ?22:49
ndrea!fr22:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.22:50
TheWozA!wine22:51
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.22:51
TheWozAhey guys im using wine to run a emulator and the video seems kinda slow22:52
TheWozAanyone know how i can config it to improve game play?22:52
now3danyone know how to fix a grub installed on the wrong drive?22:53
maybeway36there is a way to reinstall grub22:53
maybeway36i have no idea what it is22:53
tininHi, how do I use konqueror instead of dolphin?22:55
bmk789tinin: just apt-get remove dolphin22:56
tininbmk789 thanx22:57
tininit sux22:57
tinini know it will be better in kde4, but not now22:58
Daisuke_Idogo into konqueror's settings and set it as the default rather than d3lphin23:01
Daisuke_Idoand i can say from minor experience that the kde4 version of dolphin does not suck half as bad as d3lphin.23:02
maybeway36press alt+f2, type kcontrol23:02
maybeway36go to file associations, then inode?directory23:02
maybeway36move konqueror up on the list23:02
maybeway36first thing i did when i installed gutsy23:02
WaltzingAlongwish to replace dolphin with konqueror? follow the instructions at http://sathyasays.com/?p=23 but the opposite (as the article is how to replace konqueror with dolphin)23:07
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TheWozAanyone here good with wine emu???? like improving emulation fps?23:14
WaltzingAlongTheWozA: with which program?23:15
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mslotHow do I get my hands on a glibc++ ? I cant finde the include files anywhere on my sexy Kubuntu filesystem.23:17
TheWozAmame arcade emulator23:17
WaltzingAlong!info mame23:17
ubotuPackage mame does not exist in gutsy23:17
WaltzingAlong!find glibc++23:18
ubotuFound: libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, glibc-doc, libc6, libc6-pic23:18
NickPrestamslot, I don't understand your question. You want the files that the package glibc++ provides?23:18
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NickPresta!away > Mez23:19
mslotNickPresta: I want the STL/SL C++ library for Linux.23:19
NickPrestato compile C++ files and such?23:20
mslotAFAIK, my aptitude says that it has downloaded the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, but I cant find it anywhere in my /usr etc23:20
mslotNickPresta: yeps23:20
NickPrestamslot, the package is "build-essential" which provides the gcc/g++, make, libc6, etc23:21
NickPrestathen you're good to write whatever and compile23:21
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ubuntuciao23:22
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t00lzf0nt!iptables23:23
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).23:23
hdevalencehey, I'm going to be reinstalling and repartitioning my laptop (I don't like the way it's set up now), and I was going to set up a 10GB / & 110GB /home. How much of a performance hit would I take by having an encrypted /home?23:24
t00lzf0ntanyone know iptables?23:24
BigDaddyhey all, can anyone recommend an FTP server for KDE? I would like a GUI also23:24
hdevalencet00lzf0nt: Are you looking to do it from the cmd line?23:25
t00lzf0nthdevalence: doesnt matter.23:25
hdevalencet00lzf0nt: try using Guarddog. I like it.23:25
t00lzf0ntDoesn't work23:25
hdevalenceit doesn't?23:25
t00lzf0ntneither does guarddog or fwbuilder or shorewall utilities23:26
hdevalencewhat kind of doesn't work?23:26
t00lzf0ntno options for my situation.23:26
WaltzingAlong!find xmame23:26
ubotuFound: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)23:26
mslotNickPresta: thanks :)23:26
hdevalencewhat do you want to do?23:26
WaltzingAlong!info kxmame > TheWozA23:26
t00lzf0ntI run no firewall because i don't need one, i am always behind a hardware firewall.  90%23:26
t00lzf0ntI Have to run virtualbox for school. and i have to dial into a pptp vpn for work23:27
t00lzf0ntIf i run firestarter,  The virtual box networking works,  if i don't run it the vpn works.23:27
t00lzf0ntThey don't both work.23:27
t00lzf0ntNov  7 18:19:14 stormesilaptop kernel: Unknown OutputIN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=172.16.1.206 DST=172.16.1.4 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=2078 SEQ=223:27
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hdevalenceI'm not sure. What port does the VPN use?23:28
t00lzf0nt172323:28
WaltzingAlongt00lzf0nt: #iptables23:29
t00lzf0ntthey just got in over at iptables23:29
hdevalenceWHat happens when you create a rule that allows outbound traffic on port 1723?23:30
t00lzf0ntmy rules allow any any,23:31
hdevalenceThat's weird. I don't know what your problem is.23:32
hdevalencePerhaps posting in the ubuntu forums?23:32
t00lzf0ntwhen the firewall is off and my virtual machine is on there is no session tracking the vm uses pat for  outgoing but the port is unknown so the packet is lost.23:32
t00lzf0ntyeah i thought it was fun23:33
WaltzingAlong!ftpd | BigDaddy23:34
ubotuBigDaddy: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP23:34
t00lzf0ntSomewhere between no firewall and the 30 or so rules created by firestarter is one rule that will allow the VM to work without the firewall.23:35
BigDaddyWaltzingAlong: thanks for list.... I will check them out23:35
BigDaddydoing a google on kde ftp server doesn't give apps, just download sites23:35
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: if possible, use ssh instead. sftp://user@site:22 through konqueror, for example, or through filezilla23:36
WaltzingAlong!sftp23:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:36
vsudilov__whats a good TeX engine for Kubuntu that I can get with apt?23:36
WaltzingAlong!info kile23:36
ubotukile: KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.9.3-4 (gutsy), package size 1845 kB, installed size 6940 kB23:36
vsudilov__ah great, thanks23:36
WaltzingAlong!info texmaker23:37
ubotutexmaker: A Cross-Platform LaTeX Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1401 kB, installed size 2940 kB23:37
WaltzingAlongsure thing23:37
BigDaddyWaltzingAlong: I didn't understand a word you just said. Do you mean for when I need to use Konq as an FTP client to use sftp?23:37
t00lzf0ntBigDady were you against the idea of using ssh?  the kde client handle is fish://user@host23:39
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: you can use sshd/ssh to transfer files. sftp on the command line uses ssh but provides an ftp-like interface. in konqueror, instead of ftp://user:pass@ip:port/ you could use sftp which is ftp-like ssh access; then you have the security of ssh rather than the plaintext passwords of ftp23:39
t00lzf0ntinstallation is as easy as apt-get install ssh23:39
t00lzf0ntfish23:39
BigDaddyWaltzingAlong: So I would need an ssh server instead  of an ftp?23:40
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: right openssh-server23:40
booI am havin issues with my mic whenever i try to record, yet i can hear the echo when i enable analog mix, any ideas. I mainly use it for skype23:40
WaltzingAlong!skype23:41
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto23:41
BigDaddyWaltzingAlong: so what would my mother or uncle need to access my files? Would they need a ssh client?23:41
WaltzingAlong!info filezilla | BigDaddy23:41
ubotubigdaddy: filezilla: Port of the famous Win32 graphical FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 827 kB, installed size 2176 kB23:41
BigDaddyso you are saying that an ftp client can access a ssh server?23:42
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: no23:42
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol23:43
WaltzingAlongBigDaddy: yes you could transfer files through an ftp server and client. however, you may be better off doing so through an ssh server and client; filezilla can be used on ms windows to connect through sftp to sshd to transfer files, looks just like ftp to the user23:45
blizzzgn823:45
BigDaddyAh, gotcha23:45
TheWozAgrr who knows how i can fix this 7zip install bug?23:47
lordofthepigsHello. I'm trying to use compiz as my default WM for KDE (with emerald as decorator since kde-window-decorator is crappy)23:47
lordofthepigsI managed to set everything up so that when I start compiz from an already open KDE session, it works fine23:48
lordofthepigsSo I created a new XSession entry that will start KDE with compiz as the default WM, leaving the original one intact (just in case)23:48
lordofthepigsmy problem is that I need indirect rendering to be enabled, or I weird stuff starts happening.23:49
WaltzingAlonglordofthepigs: which you could do by changing the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:50
lordofthepigsmy xession, calls /usr/local/bin/startcompiz.sh as startup script23:50
WaltzingAlongTheWozA: which 7zip install bug?23:50
lordofthepigsand the startup script is just this:23:50
lordofthepigsexport KDEWM="INTEL_BATCH=1 LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --indirect-rendering --force-aiglx --sm-disable"23:50
lordofthepigsexec startkde23:50
linhackhelp... konqueror no connect .............23:50
linhackfirefox connection no problem ...23:51
linhackand konqueror and kopete no connect..23:51
lordofthepigsMy problem is that when I set KDEWM to simply "compiz" it works fine but when I set it to "compiz --indirect-rendering" the session doesn't start23:51
lordofthepigsthe KDE splash screen stops before activating the "starting window manager" icon23:51
TheWozAi get an error when trying to install through apt installer23:52
TheWozAdownloads everything comes to setting up then says wierd error23:52
lordofthepigsSo my question is: What is the right way to specify KDEWM?23:53
WaltzingAlongTheWozA: sudo aptitude -f install23:53
mizipzori go into regional and language settings, set a language and a variant... the language is set ok but the variant setting seems to be ignorad, any idea why?23:53
WaltzingAlong!aptfix > TheWozA23:55
Dragnslcrlordofthepigs- I had trouble getting compiz to work as the default window manager last time I tried. I found it was easier to just start it myself after KDE is done starting23:55
billthefishi really need some help, about 10 minutes ago my keyboard stoped working.. I didn't install anything new, or change any files.. I know its not the KB itself, because i can login.. anyone have any suggestions?23:55
lordofthepigsDragnslcr: so you didn't find any way to do it?23:56
billthefishit just completely does nothing once loged in.. an issue with xorg.conf?23:56
lordofthepigsI followed the instructions here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/131013/comments/1223:56

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