| clusty | hey | 01:09 |
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| clusty | is there something weird with xorg in hardy | 01:10 |
| clusty | sais it cannot be installed due to deps | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | yes, there is. | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | clusty: the fact that you're asking probably means you shouldnt be urnning it. | 01:13 |
| clusty | running just a virtual machine | 01:13 |
| clusty | so no harm done | 01:13 |
| clusty | wanted to see the new cutting edge features like bulletproof X | 01:13 |
| Hobbsee | why not run gutsy, then? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | features wont be in for a while yet anyway | 01:15 |
| clusty | have it already for quite some time already | 01:15 |
| clusty | ok. | 01:15 |
| clusty | any estimates as to when I should try back? | 01:16 |
| clusty | debian import freeze? | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | first alpha, or later | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | feature freeze it shoudl start being safe and interesting | 01:18 |
| clusty | thanks. will try it again after alpha 1 | 01:21 |
| WorkingOnWise | does hardy have kde 4 in the repos? | 02:13 |
| bazhang | without a working x, what would be the point? | 02:15 |
| WorkingOnWise | so x is broke atm huh? | 02:15 |
| bazhang | that is the consensus | 02:16 |
| WorkingOnWise | well...once x is fixed.... is kde 4 in the repos? | 02:19 |
| bazhang | that would likely be one of the last things to make it--best to try a livecd of it now | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | it's only broken if you break it yourself, by not looking | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | kde 4 beta 3 is in the repos | 02:23 |
| bazhang | oops sorry Hobbsee | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | but, a lot of people are being idiots, and breaking it. | 02:24 |
| === Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1 "Home of the Hardy Heron" | This channel is for Hardy discussion only | If you need help with dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy join #ubuntu | Release schedule not final yet | If you are here to ask questions such as "what repositories do i use?", "is hardy going to break for me?", or update without checking what is to be updated, DO NOT RUN HARDY | ||
| === Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1 "Home of the Hardy Heron" and X breakage| This channel is for Hardy discussion only | If you need help with dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy join #ubuntu | Release schedule not final yet | If you are here to ask questions such as "what repositories do i use?", "is hardy going to break for me?", or update without checking what is to be updated, DO NOT RUN HARDY | ||
| WorkingOnWise | Hobbsee: cool. thanks. I ran with fiesty and gutsy long before you were "supposed to" on a production system. Thikin about doin the same with hardy.... | 02:25 |
| === Hobbsee changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1 "Home of the Hardy Heron" and X breakage | This channel is for Hardy discussion only | If you need help with dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy join #ubuntu | Release schedule not final yet | If you are here to ask questions such as "what repositories do i use?", "is hardy going to break for me?", or update without checking what is to be updated, DO NOT RUN HARDY | ||
| Hobbsee | WorkingOnWise: yeah, but this early is fairly insane, unless you're actually doing development of it | 02:25 |
| RAOF | Last I checked, there were still some 7000 builds to be done from debian imports. | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | + new | 02:26 |
| RAOF | Oh, of course. | 02:26 |
| WorkingOnWise | yeah....I figured....I'm gonna resist till herd 1...hopefully :) | 02:27 |
| RAOF | Proabably "flock", unless there's something specific to herons. | 02:27 |
| RAOF | I suppose there probably must be. We should have a rook release - then we could release parliaments :) | 02:27 |
| bazhang | long wait for that one | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | no, it's alpha's this time. mdz's call | 02:28 |
| WorkingOnWise | I'm an old Windows /DOS dog....x breaking is a total catastrophy! :-D | 02:28 |
| bazhang | anyone here a member of the hardy mailing list? | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | which one? | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | hardy-changes? | 02:35 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak mention it yesterday--any would be fine--just would like to subscribe | 02:35 |
| bazhang | err mentioned | 02:35 |
| Hobbsee | or devel mailing lists? | 02:38 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee: that would be it. Thanks--will gooogle it | 02:38 |
| bazhang | err google | 02:38 |
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| gnomefreak | bazhang: it is hardy-changes at lists.ubuntu.com | 03:20 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak: thanks so much--sorry to ping you. appreciate it. | 03:22 |
| gnomefreak | its ok just working late getting ready for thursday meeting | 03:22 |
| bazhang | cheers1 | 03:22 |
| bazhang | err cheers! | 03:22 |
| Creationist | What package do I need to install for Dolphin to show previews of video files? | 04:07 |
| bazhang | Creationist: you want #kubuntu | 04:08 |
| Creationist | bazhang: Well, I asked there and no one is around. But it is also relevant here since Hardy will have the same ability ;) | 04:09 |
| hydrogen | NO. | 04:23 |
| hydrogen | Err | 04:24 |
| hydrogen | bad caps | 04:24 |
| hydrogen | but | 04:24 |
| hydrogen | thats like asking for linux help in microsofts forums because they both can run on a pc | 04:24 |
| bazhang | looks like mythtv will be even better in hardy. good news. | 04:31 |
| * cafuego runs NastyAccident through with a double-edged sword | 05:48 | |
| NastyAccident | owwh. | 05:48 |
| cafuego | Oops ;-) | 05:49 |
| * NastyAccident stags cafuego with his claymore. | 05:49 | |
| NastyAccident | stabs* | 05:50 |
| NastyAccident | dang nabbit. | 05:50 |
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| bardyr | where is a good place to get some information about hardy?, like eta's on kernel/X updates, features, etc | 15:11 |
| Hobbsee | the alpha release notes | 15:11 |
| Hobbsee | when they happen | 15:11 |
| IntuitiveNipple | bardyr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule | 15:11 |
| bardyr | Hobbsee, are there any "progress" blogs or something ? | 15:12 |
| Hobbsee | bardyr: that's them. | 15:12 |
| Hobbsee | bardyr: basically, people are busy getting stuff done, rather than blogging :) | 15:12 |
| bardyr | Hobbsee, probably, i just want my 2.6.24rc2 kernel :) and other cool stuff | 15:12 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 15:13 |
| Hobbsee | so do i...so do i. | 15:13 |
| Hobbsee | "whne it's done, and it all builds" | 15:13 |
| bazhang | mailing lists are nice too at lists.ubuntu.com | 15:13 |
| bardyr | bazhang, actually the mailinglists are great :D | 15:14 |
| bardyr | bazhang, thansk | 15:14 |
| bardyr | ks | 15:14 |
| IntuitiveNipple | anyone got an idea why a kvm guest using vde would pause for __long__ periods during an apt-get, but a simple 'ping' from another terminal immediately unpauses it? | 15:15 |
| bardyr | IntuitiveNipple, some Interrupts or events are faulty and ping/network stack awakes them? | 15:18 |
| IntuitiveNipple | bardyr: Hmmm. Been looking for some clues in logs/stats on both guest and host and can't find anything. Starting to annoy me now since I have to hand-hold the all the guests when they do build-tests | 15:19 |
| bazhang | bardyr: no problem I was told about them by these kind gentlefolk :} | 15:22 |
| Laser87 | Hi! | 17:21 |
| Popolon | hi | 19:07 |
| Popolon | I just installed lzma on ubuntu 7.10 | 19:07 |
| Popolon | and seen than the version of the package is lzma 4.43 | 19:08 |
| Popolon | but it's not a stable release | 19:08 |
| Popolon | and the official site say to don't use it | 19:08 |
| Popolon | the format can change | 19:08 |
| Popolon | the production version is 4.32.3 | 19:08 |
| Popolon | http://tukaani.org/lzma/download | 19:08 |
| bardyr | Popolon, and what do you want us to do? | 19:09 |
| Popolon | it could be bad for user to use not finished format :( | 19:09 |
| Popolon | oops | 19:09 |
| Popolon | the official site is not up to date ??? | 19:09 |
| Popolon | there is not 4.43 | 19:09 |
| Popolon | only 4.42 experimental | 19:09 |
| Popolon | http://tukaani.org/lzma/download | 19:11 |
| Popolon | where is this 4.43 ?? | 19:12 |
| Popolon | even the sourceforge.net site doesn't contain 4.43 | 19:13 |
| bardyr | Popolon, look under "Source Code" | 19:13 |
| Popolon | that's what I looked | 19:13 |
| Popolon | s/what/where | 19:13 |
| Popolon | there is definitivly no 4.43 | 19:14 |
| Popolon | I use lzma on my main computer (in linuxfromscratch, not ubuntu) | 19:14 |
| Popolon | i have a second computer with ubuntu | 19:14 |
| Popolon | slackware use lzma as default compression for its packages since at least 1 year | 19:15 |
| Popolon | It is far better than bz2 | 19:15 |
| Popolon | and reduce a lot usage of space disk and bandwidth | 19:15 |
| Popolon | the compression is slower and need more ram | 19:15 |
| Popolon | but the decompression is faster and lighter than bz2 | 19:16 |
| Popolon | this really the ideal for distro | 19:16 |
| bardyr | Popolon, its not ideal if packages takes +3 times as long to compress | 19:17 |
| Popolon | but the package is only compressed one time by dev | 19:19 |
| Popolon | and transfered decompressed lot of times by user | 19:19 |
| Popolon | this could reduce bandwitdh from several petabytes of transfert | 19:21 |
| Popolon | and save some megawatts around the world for decompression | 19:21 |
| bardyr | gzip is much faster for decompression? | 19:21 |
| Popolon | bardyr, sure gzip is faster, but don't compress very well | 20:43 |
| Laser87 | gn8@all | 21:33 |
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