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| desertc | Anyone around? | 04:37 |
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| tonyyarusso | yup | 04:37 |
| desertc | :) | 04:37 |
| desertc | I have been watching some marketing videos. | 04:37 |
| tonyyarusso | oh dear | 04:37 |
| desertc | Yeah. | 04:37 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 04:38 |
| desertc | What do we need to do to attract creative people to Ubuntu and allow them to create unique works of video art? | 04:38 |
| Burgundavia | ignore most marketing stuff, it applies to big marketing orgs | 04:38 |
| Burgundavia | we need a place for people to easily put that video art up somewhere | 04:38 |
| desertc | Well, youtube is a start. | 04:38 |
| Burgundavia | no, not youtube | 04:38 |
| Burgundavia | like Mozilla id | 04:39 |
| desertc | Yes, youtube is terrible. | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.firefoxflicks.com/ | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | see if they will give up taht code | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | if they won't, tell me | 04:39 |
| desertc | Oooh.. | 04:39 |
| desertc | Well, I am thinking more of the creation of the .MOV files on Ubuntu... | 04:40 |
| desertc | Or .OGG for that matter. | 04:40 |
| Burgundavia | you talking about getting the programs ready? | 04:41 |
| Burgundavia | pitivi is the answer to that | 04:41 |
| desertc | Is there a learning path where creative people can be directed to create videos? | 04:41 |
| Burgundavia | are you talking about programs to create such videos or a campaign such as firefoxflicks? | 04:41 |
| desertc | I am not a video person myself. It's all I can do to take pictures and save them away. But some people are big into video and video editing. | 04:42 |
| desertc | Is there a tutorial that can show people how to save video and edit it on Ubuntu? | 04:42 |
| desertc | Burgundavia: Let me look at these videos and I'll tell you.... | 04:43 |
| Burgundavia | we need better editing software | 04:44 |
| Burgundavia | Pitivi is the way forward | 04:44 |
| desertc | Yes, exactly like those videos! | 04:45 |
| desertc | Then, the second part of my idea... | 04:46 |
| desertc | Public Access Cable Television. | 04:46 |
| desertc | But for starters, getting some video content about Ubuntu would be tops. | 04:47 |
| desertc | I am surprised at the video quality of the Firefox videos, frankly. | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | again, we need the program. Pitivi is what we need | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.pitivi.org/ | 04:47 |
| desertc | Thanks for the link. | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | however, having a firefoxflicks style contest is really parallel to getting a good video editor | 04:48 |
| Burgundavia | in fact, they compliment each other | 04:48 |
| desertc | You're right. Pitivi looks very nice. | 04:49 |
| desertc | How far is the project? | 04:49 |
| desertc | How mature? | 04:49 |
| Burgundavia | needs a bunch of work | 04:50 |
| desertc | Ah. | 04:50 |
| desertc | We could put the screencasts on our local cable public access channels, for starters. | 04:52 |
| Burgundavia | screencasts are boring documentation | 04:52 |
| Burgundavia | popey: no offence, given I know you are going to read this :) | 04:52 |
| desertc | But I wanted to emphasize that video is an effective marketing channel. | 04:52 |
| Burgundavia | yes, but screencasts are not the way to do that | 04:53 |
| desertc | Hmm -- agreed. | 04:53 |
| Burgundavia | getting yourself on those channels would be a good thing | 04:53 |
| Burgundavia | dress up spiffy and bring a laptop with a default install of Ubuntu on it | 04:53 |
| desertc | What about audio content? Any 30 second audio clips promoting Ubuntu? | 04:53 |
| Burgundavia | not currently | 04:54 |
| Burgundavia | that would be the point of having such a contest | 04:54 |
| desertc | Here's another idea: Get some audio marketing into podcasts by paying for advertisement. | 04:54 |
| Burgundavia | or better yet, get the podcasts to promote a contest, which costs us nothing | 04:55 |
| desertc | But the 'cast community is moving to video format, so best to think of the future. | 04:56 |
| Burgundavia | I don't see the podcast community as a target for playing ads | 04:57 |
| desertc | Contest? To create what? | 04:57 |
| Burgundavia | I see them as an ally to getting people to help us make those ads for other targets | 04:57 |
| desertc | I think putting an ad in a popular PC Tech podcast could get some mileage. | 04:58 |
| desertc | (What do people in other countries say who use kilometers? I guess they don't have the phrase, 'get some mileage'.) | 04:58 |
| desertc | Anyway, I think it might have some traction to get the Ubuntu message to a typically Windows podcast. | 04:59 |
| Burgundavia | mileage is pretty much a common term across all of English-dom | 04:59 |
| Burgundavia | ads in podcast == bad | 04:59 |
| Burgundavia | them talking about us == good | 05:00 |
| desertc | Hmm | 05:00 |
| desertc | Maybe I could get some interview spots with them, at least. | 05:00 |
| desertc | http://www.accesschannel.com/whatisaccess.asp | 05:02 |
| desertc | Interesting that the Firefox Flicks are copyrighted by Firefox. | 05:05 |
| desertc | Burgundavia: Your talk on copyright attribution the other night has me all worked up. I am watching derivative works and wondering why they do not attribute their sources, or whether an original, modified source needs to be attributed or otherwise completely not used. | 05:32 |
| desertc | I started to read American copyright law, but, oh my gosh, is that some long legal code. | 05:33 |
| desertc | Then, I come to find out that Australian copyright law is even more restrictive than the American code. Makes one want to generate everything by hand, which is, I guess, what everyone has been doing for the Ubuntu Marketing effort. | 05:34 |
| Burgundavia | not really | 05:34 |
| Burgundavia | ignore copyright law, pay attention to the licenses | 05:34 |
| desertc | Not really? | 05:34 |
| Burgundavia | people have been creating such from scratch because they cannot find the existing stuff | 05:34 |
| desertc | Well, I am just venting frustration. I understand the copyright laws are a legal morass right now, when considering computer technology. | 05:36 |
| desertc | As long as we can create new content on Ubuntu, then it isn't all bad. | 05:37 |
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