[03:02] <rockets> Anybody know where I can find the Hardy roadmap? I've been googling for days
[03:03] <bazhang> release schedule?
[03:03] <RAOF> What do you mean by 'roadmap'? :)
[03:03] <rockets> right
[03:03] <rockets> release schedule
[03:03] <rockets> e.g.
[03:03] <rockets> tribe 1
[03:03] <rockets> tribe 2
[03:03] <rockets> etc.
[03:03] <bazhang> not final yet--topic
[03:03] <rockets> ah
[03:04] <crimsun> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule)
[03:04] <rockets> ty
[03:04] <rockets> wow
[03:05] <rockets> alpha 1 so soon
[03:05] <rockets> i cant believe it
[03:05] <rockets> i mean gutsy is barely out
[03:05] <crimsun> it's an LTS.  We have a boatload of testing to do.
[03:05] <rockets> true.
[03:07] <rockets> ah i forgot who you were for a second crimsun
[03:07] <rockets> alsa right
[03:08] <crimsun> among other silly things, yes.
[03:08] <rockets> lol
[03:08] <rockets> any chance of pulse-as-default in hardy?
[03:08] <crimsun> the desktop team (Ubuntu, that is) plans to ship it as default in 8.04 LTS, yes.
[03:11] <rockets> sweet.
[03:11] <rockets> but, silly question, doesnt it break flash audio
[03:11] <rockets> i mean theres a fix but its a bit of a hack
[03:12] <RAOF> Eh.
[03:12] <crimsun> No.
[03:12] <rockets> ah
[03:12] <rockets> well it breaks flash in feisty. like i said theres a fix
[03:12] <crimsun> the current public incarnation of Flash 9 is arguably "broken"
[03:12] <rockets> well yeah. it screws with firefox a fair bit
[03:12] <rockets> but gnash isnt a viable alternative
[03:13] <crimsun> it does inane things like attempting to open every subdevice enumerated.
[03:13] <crimsun> which, as one might imagine, is a bit over the top.
[03:13] <rockets> hah.
[03:13] <rockets> yeah.
[03:13] <crimsun> the "fix" is actually a hook into the libflash routine to bypass that mess
[03:14] <rockets> hah
[03:14] <rockets> nice
[03:19] <rockets> crimsun, i remember you, because i once asked you like two hours of inane questions
[03:19] <rockets> mostly about pcm multiplexing and kernel vs software implementations of it
[03:20] <crimsun> I've fielded a lot of those.
[03:20] <rockets> hehe
[03:20] <rockets> well.
[03:21] <rockets> my soundcard works fine *mostly*
[03:21] <rockets> i very rarely have to use Esd
[03:21] <rockets> once in a while i hit a problem
[03:21] <rockets> i havent had any issues since gutsy
[03:21] <rockets> so thanks!
[03:21] <crimsun> mostly not my work, but duly noted
[03:22] <rockets> i know its upstream, but you integrate it into ubuntu
[03:22] <rockets> or at least manage that process
[03:22] <crimsun> right, I did that for a few releases
[03:22] <crimsun> I've stepped back to give the community a bit more space to become involved
[03:22] <rockets> heh