[00:06] <Middleastin> hello
[00:06] <Middleastin> yo
[00:06] <Middleastin> please
[00:06] <Middleastin> TALK
[00:06] <Middleastin> PPL
[00:07] <Middleastin> ARE U HERE
[00:07] <somerville32> Hi
[00:07] <Middleastin> who
[00:07] <Middleastin> wow
[00:07] <somerville32> How can I help you? :)
[00:07] <Middleastin> someone answered
[00:07] <Middleastin> yea
[00:07] <Middleastin> so you can help me out with unbuntu right
[00:08] <Middleastin> ?
[00:08] <somerville32> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel
[00:08] <Middleastin> so you can help me
[00:08] <somerville32> This channel is for the coordination of the development of the Ubuntu documentation
[00:08] <Middleastin> oh
[00:08] <Middleastin> sorry
[00:08] <somerville32> Please refer to #ubuntu
[00:08] <Middleastin> is that it
[00:08] <Middleastin> do i search for that
[00:08] <Middleastin> #ubuntu
[00:09] <Middleastin> i am not fimilar with this kinda chat server
[00:09] <somerville32> type: /join #ubuntu
[00:10] <Middleastin> where do i type that
[00:10] <somerville32> Where you're typing right now
[00:10] <Middleastin> OH
[00:10] <Middleastin> ok
[00:11] <Middleastin> thanks alot
[02:54] <oldmanstan> somerville32: that was a pretty humorous help request and response above ^
[02:55] <somerville32> lol
[02:59] <oldmanstan> somerville32: i like the idea of a xubuntu help browser, so long as it doesn't take a crazy amount of time/effort, which i don't think it will
[02:59] <oldmanstan> let me know if you guys need any help on it
[03:01] <somerville32> Awesome :)
[04:33] <posingaspopular> hey all
[04:38] <posingaspopular> im trying to start writing the basic commands for xubuntu hardy. so far, i have 'man' 'sudo' 'ls' 'pwd' 'cd' and 'ifconfig'/'dhclient
[04:38] <posingaspopular> anything else?
[04:43] <somerville32> posingaspopular, We're have a basic commands section?
[04:44] <posingaspopular> i could have sworn....
[04:44] <posingaspopular> or else i was mapping out docs in my head all day for no reason
[04:45] <somerville32> As long as we aren't expecting anyone to use them :P
[04:47] <posingaspopular> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Documentation/HardyAssignments
[04:47] <posingaspopular> basic commands
[04:47] <somerville32> It should be nothing more than an appendix at best.
[04:48] <posingaspopular> ummm.... okay....
[04:48] <somerville32> We should strive to make it so that users don't even have to touch the cli
[04:48] <posingaspopular> somerville32: im really bad at this docs thing by the way
[04:48] <somerville32> posingaspopular, No you're not :P
[04:57] <oldmanstan> somerville32: the ubuntu docs have a CLI section, we just duplicated it
[04:57] <somerville32> oldmanstan, Okay. Are we trying to maintain a minimum delta or is there no point to that now?
[04:58] <oldmanstan> yeah, imho we should try to change as little as possible, at least in areas where that's feasible
[04:59] <oldmanstan> i mean, obviously there are significant software packages that xubuntu doesn't ship by default that k/ubuntu do, so in those areas we should probably just forget about trying to stay parallel
[05:00] <somerville32> oldmanstan, So why do we need to write our own basic commands now?
[05:00] <somerville32> Can't we mirror what ubuntu has?
[05:00] <somerville32> And is it a full chapter in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <oldmanstan> yeah, when i made that table i basically just copied the old one, but for certain things we can probably specify that the goal for a section is just to keep up with the ubuntu changes (and fix them where they don't work for us)
[05:02] <oldmanstan> it's a full chapter yeah, i was a bit surprised myself when i saw it, amazingly it was also had quite a few bugs, haha, you'd think a bunch of nerds could write a command line guide
[05:05] <somerville32> lol
[05:05] <somerville32> It wouldn't require much hacking to make it an appendix instead
[05:05] <posingaspopular> oldmanstan: the level 400 classes in communication for web design teach HTML and then go into DTD.