[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #162660 in soyuz "Allow autosync to follow experimental" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162660
[15:13] <PriceChild> I've got the option of editing other users' questions in all projects... I haven't actually tried going through with it yet but assume it'd work. About to file this as a bug unless its a "feature" in disguise?
[15:19] <Hobbsee> WTH is needing attention?
[15:19] <Hobbsee> this panel is needing attention or something?
[15:19] <Hobbsee> Questions needing your attention for Launchpad
[15:19] <Hobbsee> ah
[15:20] <Hobbsee> Launchpad has unanswered questions in the following languages: 1 in French. Can you help?
[15:20] <Hobbsee> how is it needing my attention, if it's not certain it's a question i can help with?
[15:20] <Hobbsee> and since when do i speak french?
[15:20] <r0ver> hello. Is it possible to delete a project started by myself ?
[15:25] <PriceChild> After editing the question, I can't see the original question either like you can with bugs
[15:33] <stdin> r0ver: no, you need a LP admin to do it
[15:39] <r0ver> stdin: ok, thanks
[15:46] <cprov-lunch> cprov
[15:47] <cprov> lamont: queue-mangler ?
[15:48] <lamont> er, queue-builder?
[15:48] <cprov> lamont: it runs on intervals of 30 minutes.
[15:49] <lamont> so, :00 and :30?
[15:53] <cprov> lamont: no it varies, it runs (32 min) and wait 30 minutes then runs again ... that's how the buildd-sequencer operates
[15:58] <lamont> ah, ok
[15:58] <lamont> so there's not really anyway to tell when it's running, other than by being on the machine?
[16:07] <Hobbsee> lamont: can you explain https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+archive/+build/442279 ?  the binary which it's missing was built on the 29th, in that ppa.
[16:07] <Hobbsee> lamont: cprov says it's likely due to the new chroots.
[16:08] <Hobbsee> lamont: i'd guess that sbuild has stopped picking up the deps from it's own ppa for some reason, but it wasnt doing it before (see kdebase, iirc)
[16:14]  * lamont finishes screaming.
[16:14] <lamont> some days, I hateseseses my video card
[16:14] <lamont> other times, I hate the driver that crashes my machine from time to time
[16:15] <lamont> cprov: do you have the hardy tarballs where I can grab them?  that'll let me answer Hobbsee's question
[16:16] <lamont> err, actually, Hobbsee's question requires the gutsy/i386 tarball
[16:57] <Ubulette> is lpia (main) buildd broken ?
[16:57] <Ubulette> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10366796/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b1~rc3%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[16:58] <Hobbsee> lamont: did you find the problem?
[17:35] <elmo> Ubulette: is that a PPA?
[17:35] <Ubulette> no
[17:35] <Ubulette> elmo, no
[17:35] <elmo> oh -1.9 is a separate source package
[17:35] <elmo> meh
[17:36] <elmo> ok, fixed the buildd, I think/hope, retrying the build
[17:36] <Ubulette> ok, thanks
[17:37] <Ubulette> elmo, could you force the retry for me please ?
[17:38] <elmo> Ubulette: I have done
[17:38] <Ubulette> excellent
[17:38] <Ubulette> thanks :)
[18:05] <Ubulette> elmo, it failed again, this time missing cdbs. could you save the day once more ? :)
[18:06] <elmo> I'm looking at it
[18:06] <Ubulette> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10367122/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b1~rc3%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[18:06] <Ubulette> elmo, i don't get the missing + does not exist
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #162699 in soyuz "Add link to full build queue from Build details page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162699
[18:21] <ubotu> New bug: #162703 in launchpad "Pre-release code notice should link to bug report page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162703
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #162713 in launchpad "should complain loudly when different versions of internal services talk xml-rpc to each other" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162713
[18:56] <elmo> Ubulette: OK, I think I've found the problem.  I've set xulrunner-1.9 to rebuild... again.
[18:56] <Ubulette> thanks
[19:02] <elmo> Ubulette: aha, that seems happier now
[19:03] <Ubulette> indeed. Thanks a lot.
[19:31] <Ubulette> elmo, the i386 one has been fully built for more than 20 min but it's still stuck in the same status (Currently building), like if it was waiting for something to happen
[19:31] <elmo> Ubulette: I'll defer to cprov on that ... 
[19:31] <Ubulette> ok. Thx. it's https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/rothera
[19:32] <Ubulette> or https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b1~rc3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/444687
[19:35] <Ubulette> cprov, could you help for ^^ ?
[19:36] <cprov> Ubulette: let me check
[19:38] <Ubulette> i've seen that many times in ppas, it eventually stops (ie timeout) after 3h doing nothing, then succeeds.
[19:41] <cprov> ubuntulog: slave-scanner was hung :(
[19:43] <Ubulette> oh, ok.
[19:44] <cprov> ubuntulog: uhm, but it's still building ...
[19:45] <Ubulette> yes
[19:46] <cprov> Ubulette: I can't be right.
[19:46] <Ubulette> hm ?
[19:48] <cprov> Ubulette: how long does it takes to build normally ?  would it be bad to lose this job result ?
[19:48] <Ubulette> 50min to 1h.
[19:49] <Ubulette> it's the main dep of firefox3, which just started so I expect it to fail
[19:49] <cprov> uhm, it is worth of some investigation then.
[19:49] <Ubulette> if you can restart it without me bumping it, fine
[19:49] <cprov> no worries, it will fail soon enough 
[19:50] <cprov> no, we need to access the builder, elmo do you have time ?
[19:52] <Ubulette> ff3 is in dep wait now so i'm not worried. feel free to debug this xul build
[19:59] <Ubulette> lpia is in the same state
[21:41] <nealmcb> I'm looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/libvirt/ and noticing that there is no "code" tab and no project associated with it.  the project involved seems to be http://libvirt.org/ where they publish code via cvs.  I'm not quite clear on how to make that association - do I need to register a whole new project in launchpad, or is there a shortcut of some sort, or should I get the real maintainers to do it all?
[21:43] <pochu> nealmcb: try removing gutsy/ from the url
[21:44] <nealmcb> done
[21:47] <nealmcb> pochu: but I still don't see a project association or code tab.  I'm just thinking having launchpad pull their code and making it available via bzr would be handy, and remember seeing that encouraged somewhere but I don't remember the proper steps
[21:48] <ajmitch> yes, an upstream project needs to be registered in launchpad for that to happen
[21:48] <nealmcb> ajmitch: just the guy I was gonna talk to next :-)
[21:49] <ajmitch> oh dear, why?
[21:49] <nealmcb> so should I just go ahead and do that, and get a "series" and link the code base to it?  
[21:49] <nealmcb> ajmitch: well, you pulled libvirt originally I guess
[21:49] <ajmitch> I believe so, yes
[21:50] <ajmitch> it's been awhile since I've looked at how to do imports & various things
[21:50] <nealmcb> that's why I came here to find the experts :-)
[21:51] <nealmcb> and should there be a super-project for virt-manager etc? or are they separate enough to remain separated?
[22:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[22:00] <ajmitch> hi mpt 
[22:15] <mdke> has anyone used the gutsy installerfor a thinkpad t43? It seems to hang at the partition stage - gparted also just keeps scanning for devices continuously and I can't find /dev/hda or /dev/sda in order to try fdisk
[22:16] <mdke> gah, chan
[22:16] <mdke> sorry
[22:19] <nealmcb> so I'm at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/libvirt/+addbranch and it isn't clear where to put the cvs information for a mirrored branch
[22:20] <nealmcb> ajmitch: or is this mostly a pointless exercise?
[22:22] <thumper> nealmcb: branches are for bzr branches, not cvs
[22:23] <thumper> nealmcb: if you want to import from CVS then it isn't a mirrored branch, it is a code import
[22:23] <nealmcb> thumper: thanks
[22:23] <ajmitch> ah, you've awakened an expert that you were looking for
[22:23] <nealmcb> :-)
[22:25] <mpt> PriceChild, that you can edit any question is not a bug, the same is possible for bug reports
[22:27] <mpt> PriceChild, but that you can't get back the original question is bug 50562.
[22:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 50562 in launchpad-answers "Save original question when using 'Edit question'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50562
[22:27] <mpt> hi ajmitch :-)
[22:27] <thumper> nealmcb: see https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImports
[22:29] <nealmcb> ajmitch: but I am curious, is this helpful?  or will I just annoy the author Daniel Veillard?
[22:29] <thumper> nealmcb: project groups are only creatable by launchpad admins right now I believe
[22:29] <ajmitch> I don't think many authors would be annoyed, but it is useful
[22:30] <ajmitch> I believe it's necessary to register a project in order to mark a bug as affecting upstream
[22:30] <thumper> nealmcb: if you are registering a project but don't want to have much to do with it you can set the maintainer to some general registrant user, but I can't remember who exactly off the top of my head
[22:31] <ajmitch> registray administrators
[22:31]  * thumper wonders who's awake that'd know
[22:31] <ajmitch> s/ray/ry/
[22:31] <thumper> ajmitch: yeah, that's right#
[22:33] <mpt> hmmmm
[22:33] <mpt> perhaps registry administrators should be a radio button
[22:38] <nealmcb> thumper: getting close... so if the cvs command is  cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@libvirt.org:2401/data/cvs co libvirt    is the module "libvirt"?
[22:38] <nealmcb> and is there any "branch"?
[22:40] <nealmcb> and can I specify the password somehow?
[22:45] <mwhudson> nealmcb: branch needs to be MAIN
[22:46] <mwhudson> the password can be specified in the CVSROOT
[22:51] <nealmcb> mwhudson: interesting - what is the syntax?  hints on how to do that would be helpful on https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImports
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #162754 in launchpad "Hard to disclaim maintainership of a project you're registering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162754
[23:04] <nealmcb> mpt: nice feature request - thanks :-)
[23:04] <mpt> yw
[23:14] <mwhudson> nealmcb: i can't remember :)
[23:15] <nealmcb> it looks pretty clear to me that the libvirt project I've just registered was used for the gutsy libvirt package code and I assume the same is true for earlier releases.  but does it matter which release (gutsy, hardy, etc) I associate it with?
[23:18] <mwhudson> nealmcb: i _think_ it's just :pserver:user:pass@host:/root
[23:19] <mwhudson> yes, seems so
[23:20] <nealmcb> mwhudson: thanks
[23:38] <nealmcb> well, I registered the libvirt project for the hardy libvirt package.  it doesn't seem to affect gutsy, but that probably matters less
[23:38] <nealmcb> ta
[23:40] <ubotu> New bug: #162759 in malone "Source portlet says incorrectly says a package is in universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162759