[15:07] <bardyr> Hardy is starting to move now :D
[15:08] <Tm_T> moving out of the window?
[15:09] <bardyr> nope, but updates are coming in regularly and update-manager knows what hardy is
[15:10] <nanonyme> iinteresting
[15:10] <bardyr> now i just need my new kernel
[15:11] <nanonyme> i hadn't noticed the next round had started. going to be interesting since bcm43xx didn't yet make stable enough state for gutsy for me
[15:11] <Pici> Okay, I'll upgrade all my production systems then
[15:11] <bardyr> nanonyme, bcm43xx is dropped
[15:11] <nanonyme> hmm?
[15:11] <nanonyme> why?
[15:11] <bardyr> nanonyme, say hello to b4, or whats its called,
[15:11] <nanonyme> oh, confusing
[15:11] <bardyr> nanonyme, just merged in the 2.6.24 kernel
[15:12] <bardyr> it should be much better then bcm43xx
[15:12] <nanonyme> ah, cool. i was already shocked that i'd lose the support altogether. i have ppc laptop so ndiswrapper wasn't a choice at any point
[15:13] <bardyr> does ndiswrapper not support ppc?
[15:14] <bardyr> and the bcm43xx seemed to work in feisty
[15:14] <nanonyme> ndiswrapper requires an x86-based cpu
[15:15] <nanonyme> yeah, well. bcm43xx "worked" for me. it seemed to scan everything nice and fine but couldn't join networks
[15:16] <nanonyme> anyway, bbl. will upgrade my laptop at home to hardy. i only use it for watching movies and remote control for a server anyway :)
[15:16] <nanonyme> off from work ->
[17:27] <nanonyme> hmm, now that i'm at home i'm a bit afraid of trying hardy
[17:27] <bardyr> heh
[17:27] <nanonyme> maybe i could install it in a chroot?
[17:27] <bardyr> nanonyme, im running it on a production machine ;)
[17:28] <nanonyme> yeah, but there's always the risk that stuff like X stops working altogether
[17:28] <bardyr> yes
[17:28] <bardyr> and it will probably do
[17:28] <nanonyme> heh
[17:33] <nanonyme> anyway, in a chroot it would probably be safe
[17:33] <nanonyme> except
[17:34] <nanonyme> just remembered the kernel thing....
[17:35] <nanonyme> i mean, i can rmmod and insmod whenever i want to but there would be problems with drivers :/
[17:35] <nanonyme> erm, because of the kernel version difference
[17:35] <nanonyme> (possibly)
[17:55] <nanonyme> hmm
[17:56] <nanonyme> the fact that xorg-server-video-ati is not installable frightened me enough that i decided against trying out hardy at least outside a chroot...
[18:03] <hydrogen> thats probably a good thing.
[18:04] <_Shade_> hi there
[18:05] <_Shade_> how's hardy doing by the way? :)
[18:13] <crdlb> exactly how you'd expect a pre-alpha to work :)
[18:13] <_Shade_> crdlb: yeah, yeah... still long way to go
[20:16] <savvas> doesn anyone have the link for the hardy goals?
[20:37] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[20:37] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB