[16:06] <idong> hi! was trying to install xubuntu from iso... it stops after i was able to detect the iso file..
[16:06] <garuhhh> hi! was trying to install xubuntu from iso... it stops after i was able to detect the iso file..
[16:16] <garuhhh> ooops.. i got disconnected..
[16:16] <garuhhh> anyone have installed xubuntu from iso?
[17:02] <reload123> hi
[17:02] <reload123> I just started using xubuntu, when I click terminal I get a black screen and it logs me out from the user interface
[17:03] <reload123> does anyone have the skills to solve this problem?
[17:07] <reload123> aynone here?
[17:07] <jarnos> Anybody else have the problem that you have to click shutdown twise to get it work?
[17:09] <reload123> hmm
[17:09] <reload123> what do you mean?
[17:09] <reload123> didn't understand
[17:13] <kwhk> hi, TheSheep, u there?
[17:20] <reload123> anyone, please let me know when you can help
[17:23] <jarnos> reload123: could you make a bug report in launchpad.net? And use a different terminal in the mean time.
[17:26] <jarnos> Anyone have this problem: You have to click Applications > Quit twice to get the session dialog.
[17:26] <marist1> hello!
[17:26] <marist1> does somebody have problems with cd burning under 7.10?
[17:27] <marist1> ..
[17:28] <jarnos> marist1: Well I could not adjust burning speed in brasero. Once burning had error even though brasero did not report me one.
[17:49] <jarnos> What is the normal memory usage of Xubuntu when desktop is empty. Mine is 63MB, though I have added few items to a panel.
[17:50] <jarnos> It is half of the RAM in the machine!
[17:53] <zoredache> jarnos: it is time to consider adding more ram...  even the light systems prefer at least 256...
[17:56] <LiENUS> zoredache, why should ubuntu prefer at least 256 mb of ram?
[17:57] <LiENUS> i remember a time when linux wouldnt even auto detect more than 128 mb
[17:57] <jarnos> zoredache: Well, I could add 64MB, the PC is used for text processing mainly.
[17:58] <zoredache> LiENUS: because almost all programmers in the last 2-3 years have realized that it is cheaper to buy new hardware then it is to waste time optimizing code
[17:59] <LiENUS> at the time it wasnt optimizing code to support less than 128mb of ram
[17:59] <zoredache> you are of course free to use older versions
[18:01] <zoredache> 6 years ago when 128mb was standard programmers weren't trying to emulate functionality from Vista or OSX
[18:01] <LiENUS> what functionality?
[18:02] <zoredache> see compvis/beryl...  Checkout the desktop search features, checkout the automagic wifi reconfiguration
[18:02] <jarnos> zoredache: Don
[18:03] <LiENUS> i doubt jarnos is running comviz/beryl
[18:03] <jarnos> LiENUS: =
[18:04] <jarnos> LiENUS: I don't want those wasting resources.
[18:04] <zoredache> Yes, but he probably is running network manager, hald, and so on and so forth...
[18:04] <LiENUS> so why not suggest he turn those things off
[18:05] <zoredache> because it is not trivial, and a person who needs to ask the question probably won't be able to manage...  Plus, I have never really cared enough to figure out how
[18:06] <LiENUS> /etc/rc.d/hald stop is non trivial?
[18:06] <jarnos> I am going to turn Network Manager and Update notifier off from automatically started applications, since the PC is not used in internet connection.
[18:06] <jarnos> LiENUS: What is the benefit of hald and how much does it take resources?
[18:07] <Pres-Gas> so, can a group be a member of another group?
[18:07] <zoredache> Pres-Gas: last time I looked, no...
[18:08] <Pres-Gas> I thought so, zoredache, but was not sure.
[18:29] <LiENUS> jarnos, iirc hald handles adding/removing hardware
[18:31] <jarnos> LiENUS: like USB DISK?
[18:31] <LiENUS> like sound cards
[18:31] <LiENUS> it might handle usb disks too
[18:31] <LiENUS> but im not sure
[18:51] <ibolmo> hey, where's the Network Places in xubuntu ? :D
[18:52] <zoredache> there is no equivalent to network places in xubuntu
[18:53] <zoredache> there are several examples in the forums where people have use fuse and smb to get some smb mount functionality
[18:54] <zoredache> or you could just manually mount things from the command line
[19:02] <ibolmo> thanks zoredache
[19:20] <ibolmo> hey zoredache, my "Autostarted Applications" in the Settings menu is missing, what's the package that I'm missing?
[19:21] <zoredache> no idea
[19:21] <ibolmo> hehe, i'll google thanks
[19:22] <zoredache> the file seems to be xfce4-autostart-editor
[19:22] <ibolmo> thanks
[19:25] <ibolmo> weird, not found
[19:26] <zoredache> if this was debian, I would suggest you do a search at packages.debian.com.  I don't think ubuntu has a similar system though...
[19:26] <ibolmo> no worries, i'm looking it up
[19:28] <tehk> Can anyone suggest a light filebrowser/client that supports fish
[19:28] <ibolmo> actually
[19:28] <ibolmo> it's in my /usr/bin but not in the menu
[19:28] <ibolmo> weird
[19:39] <monty_> hello, i have just installed xubuntu , from where can i lock my desktop ?
[19:40] <zoredache> lock your desktop?
[19:40] <zoredache> as in nobody else can use it until they enter your password?
[19:40] <monty_> yes , for eg i have to go and i dont want any one to see or use my desktop
[19:41] <zoredache> Right click on any one of the panels, and choose add.  From the panel items list choose 'action button'
[19:41] <zoredache> the action button type should be 'lock screen'
[19:41] <monty_> zoredache : thank you , its there
[19:42] <zoredache> now all you should have to do is click the button to lock
[19:43] <monty_> thanks , its working  :)  , let me go and explore more  thanks again bye
[19:48] <longjohn> i have a dsl connection but no router. do i have to install my modem? if not, how can i find out which is the correct device in /dev/* ? thanks
[19:49] <zoredache> Does the DSL get directly connected to your computer, or does it go to a box that connects to an ethernet card in your computer?
[19:50] <longjohn> yes directly
[19:50] <longjohn> or wait
[19:50] <longjohn> from modem to pc-ethernet card
[19:50] <zoredache> You would probably need to figure out what kind of card you have in your cmputer and then search to see how to get it working under linux...
[19:51] <longjohn> the card works
[19:51] <zoredache> ah, so you do have a modem...
[19:51] <longjohn> yes. like i said =D
[19:51] <zoredache> how do you know the ethernet card works?
[19:52] <zoredache> usually ethernet devices don't show up in /dev.  You can get a list of ethernet devices by using the 'ip link' command in a terminal
[19:53] <longjohn> once a friend of mine was here with his router which was able to get connected to the pc
[19:53] <longjohn> i mean i was able to administrate the router from this pc with this network card
[19:55] <zoredache> well anyway to get the dsl modem connected you will need some information from your ISP.  Like do they need PPPOE, do they assign addresses via dhcp, if not do you need to statically enter ip addresses
[19:56] <longjohn> why do i need more than username and password? even windows can handle it with this data
[19:57] <zoredache> The reality is that Linux isn't as easy to install as windows in some cases...
[19:58] <zoredache> how does windows think the modem is configured?
[19:58] <zoredache> did you have to install some software from the isp, or?
[20:08] <MatBoy> is Terminal Service Client broken in Xubuntu Gutsy ?
[20:08] <zoredache> I have 4 sessions open right now... so I don't think it is broken...
[20:11] <MatBoy> zoredache, wierd, it does not work here anymore... does rdpc works full screen at your side too ?
[20:11] <MatBoy> *krdc
[20:12] <zoredache> krdc?  I thought you where talking about tsclient ...
[20:12] <shortjohn> zoredache ree, i disconnected. what other data could be required? dns ips ? i could get these easily
[20:13] <zoredache> MatBoy: tsclient seems to go to full screen just fine.
[20:14] <MatBoy> zoredache, indeed that worked before here too... it doesn't anymore in a strange way...
[20:14] <MatBoy> zoredache, with krdc I can use compiz, I can't with tsclient
[20:14] <MatBoy> cube...
[20:17] <slow-motion> hallo
[20:17] <ronnie> hi
[20:17] <MatBoy> zoredache, it tries --F here :S
[20:18] <MatBoy> oik solved that
[20:19] <MatBoy> zoredache, can you skip to another dekstop when in tsclient ? I mean when you opened tsclient, can you switch to a linux desktop ?
[20:20] <zoredache> I almost never am in full screen
[20:21] <zoredache> so yes, I can switch back in forth I just use alt-tab...
[20:21] <MatBoy> ok, I need krdc again in full screen
[20:21] <MatBoy> but it's not possible :(
[20:34] <arsenip> anyone have a TX series vaio with xubuntu / ubuntu?
[20:44] <arsenip> meh
[20:44] <arsenip> internets died, anyone have a TX vaio with buntu ? :p
[20:45] <zoredache> rather then doing a poll about who has what, why not ask your question if you have one
[20:48] <ronnie> one of them miniature notebooks right arsenip? make sure acpi and stuff runs nicely
[20:48] <ronnie> irqs a bit odd on them too
[20:48] <arsenip> well
[20:48] <arsenip> it has some extra keys
[20:48] <arsenip> on the lappy
[20:48] <arsenip> there is rarely drivers that work
[20:48] <arsenip> (or never used to)
[20:48] <arsenip> so im wondering if anyone has one with working media keys on it now
[20:48] <ronnie> make sure under system services hotkeys service is enabled
[20:49] <arsenip> system services?
[20:49] <ronnie> yeah applications> system> services
[20:49] <arsenip> only just installed xubuntu .. not touched xubuntu in a year, so im not sure where that is :p
[21:03] <arsenip> seems to be already on
[21:55] <slow-motion> n8
[21:58] <NullName> ANyone know why my volume control disapears from my panel in xubuntu 7.10?
[21:58] <NullName> I can't add it anymore either
[21:58] <NullName> once in a blue moon when I add it it will appear
[21:58] <NullName> it used to appear with no problems
[22:10] <zoredache> are you logging in with a different account perhaps?
[22:11] <NullName> nope
[22:11] <NullName> only one account
[22:11] <NullName> using xfce no crazy mods or anything
[22:11] <NullName> standard setup
[22:11] <NullName> it worked in 7.04
[22:11] <NullName> I upgraded and my volume control was gone
[22:12] <NullName> and now only once in a while can I get it back
[22:12] <NullName> it seems to have no pattern
[22:12] <NullName> and when I reboot the damn thing is gone
[22:32] <suranap> Hi, anyone know how to run a minimal X session? I just want to run remote X sessions. I don't need a desktop most of the time.
[22:45] <retour> I need help with wine. I can access *.exe file to start using midnight commander but from under console folder /wine/drive_c/Program Files is invisibe (Only Program Files) so I cant make a launcher to it
[22:48] <zoredache> retour: you probably need to try a wine channel, or the #ubuntu channel...  I don't think this channel is high volume enough to have someone who can answer you
[22:50] <retour> well I've installed Xubuntu so I was hoping thats my best bet as it may be a simple acess settings bug
[22:55] <arsenip> are there any issues with beryl and xfce4?
[23:21] <arsenip> scratch that
[23:22] <arsenip> anyone using xubuntu 7.10 with compiz-fusion?