| soren | https://edge.launchpad.net/~shawarma/+archive/+build/444858 <-- The builder is listed as an i386 one, but produces amd64 binaries. | 00:15 |
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| soren | It seems to be supposed to build amd64 binaries. I think it's just listed incorrectly. | 00:17 |
| elmo | soren: file a bug on soyuz | 00:17 |
| mpt | soren, that bug's reported, I confirmed it yesterday | 00:17 |
| soren | mpt: Oh, ok. | 00:17 |
| soren | Sorry for the trouble. | 00:18 |
| mpt | no trouble :-) | 00:19 |
| mpt | soren, it's bug 159606 | 00:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 159606 in launchpad-buildd "osmium incorrectly described as i386" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159606 | 00:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #162763 in launchpad-bazaar ""Register merge proposal" is indirect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162763 | 00:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #162771 in rosetta "Poor feedback from translation export queue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162771 | 01:01 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #162803 in malone "Please support different "Also affects distribution" targets for different bug tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162803 | 05:35 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: :P | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: that requires me to re-login, etc, just to post a damn question. | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | which requires finding my LP p/w | 06:21 |
| jamesh | if only web browsers could remember details like that | 06:23 |
| Hobbsee | it does - for the vanilla, and beta ones. assuming i'm on launchpad.net itself, not a url off that. | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | lamont: did you find teh chroot problem, btw? | 07:11 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, what does? | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: your comment on my question, about that i should use staging, not production | 07:22 |
| mpt | oh | 07:23 |
| mpt | You don't know your Launchpad password? That's mildly alarming | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: my password safe does. | 07:25 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | morning carlos | 08:13 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #162873 in launchpad "LookupError when editing team if you changed your Launchpad ID after loading the form" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162873 | 13:45 |
| lamont | Hobbsee: I had, um, computer problems. | 13:46 |
| Hobbsee | lamont: ...right | 13:47 |
| lamont | so no. I'll look when I get to the office today | 13:47 |
| Hobbsee | lamont: cool, OK | 13:48 |
| lamont | Hobbsee: amusingly (1) INIC162x doesn't support SATA drives of over 2^28 sectors (LBA48), (2) my mother board doesn't allow me to have both primary IDE and SATA active (so the IDE-to-SATA adapter was not successful as a solution), and (3) best buy actually has a non INIC162x SATA controller card. | 13:48 |
| Hobbsee | lamont: ouch! | 13:48 |
| lamont | so, two trips into town yesterday :-( | 13:48 |
| lamont | oh, and the new machine has a different video card, so it shouldn't randomly lock up because I moved the mouse at the wrong instant. | 13:49 |
| lamont | and I need to leave 3 minutes ago. | 13:49 |
| lamont | gone | 13:49 |
| Rinchen | hello SteveA | 14:00 |
| danilos | you? | 14:00 |
| bigjools | meh | 14:00 |
| carlos | me! | 14:01 |
| carlos | :-P | 14:01 |
| schwuk | who? | 14:01 |
| danilos | he! | 14:01 |
| mpt | Couldn't be! | 14:01 |
| gmb | We | 14:01 |
| gmb | are the knights | 14:01 |
| barry | mao | 14:01 |
| * schwuk feels like he's reading Dr Seuss | 14:01 | |
| bac | no talking | 14:01 |
| Rinchen | penalty card - talking | 14:02 |
| ddaa | meow | 14:02 |
| LongPointyStick | woof | 14:02 |
| gmb | who say.. | 14:02 |
| barry | Rinchen: :) | 14:02 |
| gmb | (everyone) | 14:02 |
| jamesh | here, but a bit sleepy | 14:02 |
| Rinchen | jamesh, I know the feeling. | 14:03 |
| * Hobbsee force feeds jamesh coffee | 14:03 | |
| flacoste | isn't the meeting now? | 14:03 |
| Rinchen | jamesh, with the timezone changes I have to get up at 6:40 | 14:03 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon is even worse. | 14:03 |
| gmb | Hobbsee: if you could do that to the whole LP team, that'd be great. | 14:03 |
| jamesh | Rinchen: it's the 10 hours of jet lag that's making me sleepy | 14:03 |
| Hobbsee | gmb: that would require an awful lot of flying. and i dont make good coffee :) | 14:03 |
| * jtv lines up for coffee | 14:03 | |
| schwuk | gmb: except I don't like coffee | 14:03 |
| jamesh | not so much the time of day | 14:03 |
| Rinchen | jamesh, see, you should have stayed here and setup shop :-) | 14:03 |
| gmb | Hobbsee: no-one said it had to be good ;) | 14:04 |
| * Rinchen is attempting to locate SteveA | 14:04 | |
| Hobbsee | haha | 14:04 |
| stub | You should all come to Bangkok for the LP meeting | 14:04 |
| Hobbsee | can i ask a question, while you're waiting? | 14:04 |
| barry | Rinchen: that's why we're moving this meeting to 1500utc, right? <wink> | 14:04 |
| jtv | stub: I'm trying! | 14:04 |
| jamesh | and miss the nice 30°C weather? | 14:04 |
| bigjools | stub: I'd rather be further south on one of the islands :) | 14:04 |
| gmb | Hobbsee: fire away. No promises that we'll answer, though. | 14:04 |
| Hobbsee | gmb: when are the LP sprints? | 14:04 |
| ddaa | jamesh: I disagree with you value of nice | 14:05 |
| schwuk | /dev/random | 14:05 |
| stub | I'll compromise on Phuket if necessary | 14:05 |
| Rinchen | jamesh, good point, it's -8 right now here in Colorado | 14:05 |
| ddaa | schwuk: you meant "cat /dev/random" right? | 14:05 |
| gmb | Rinchen: can you answer Hobbsee's question? ^^ | 14:05 |
| jamesh | ddaa: I did miss a 39°C day earlier this week, apparently | 14:05 |
| bigjools | Phuket is way too expensive | 14:05 |
| danilos | gmb: can anyone answer that? :) | 14:05 |
| ddaa | actually, you probably meant "unrandom" too | 14:05 |
| schwuk | ddaa: If you want to be precise... | 14:06 |
| Rinchen | Hobbsee, which sprints? :-) We had some planning time over the last two weeks | 14:06 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: the ones you all are at, i think. | 14:06 |
| Rinchen | Hobbsee, ah, then... the last two weeks. This week we are back to normal | 14:06 |
| ddaa | Hobbsee: you just missed one | 14:06 |
| schwuk | Rinchen: we are? | 14:06 |
| Hobbsee | ddaa: i know that :) | 14:06 |
| jamesh | Hobbsee: we're in recovery mode | 14:06 |
| Rinchen | normal is relative of course | 14:07 |
| * schwuk puts the Jager away | 14:07 | |
| gmb | schwuk: For a value of normal | 14:07 |
| Hobbsee | jamesh: haha. liver is becomming sane again | 14:07 |
| gmb | schwuk: Normalised by Jager. | 14:07 |
| Rinchen | well, seems SteveA is unavailable for the moment. mpt would you kindly do the honours? | 14:08 |
| mpt | ok, one moment | 14:08 |
| Rinchen | thank you sir | 14:09 |
| * mpt finds his gavel | 14:09 | |
| mpt | MEETING TIME | 14:09 |
| stub | me | 14:09 |
| mthaddon | me | 14:09 |
| mpt | Welcome one and all to the weekly Launchpad development meeting | 14:09 |
| mpt | Other than stub and mthaddon, who is here? | 14:09 |
| gmb | me | 14:09 |
| allenap | me | 14:09 |
| adeuring | me | 14:09 |
| barry | me | 14:09 |
| flacoste | me | 14:09 |
| sinzui | me | 14:09 |
| Rinchen | me | 14:09 |
| schwuk | me | 14:09 |
| danilos | me | 14:09 |
| BjornT | me | 14:09 |
| jtv | me | 14:09 |
| bac | me | 14:09 |
| ddaa | meep | 14:09 |
| jrydberg__ | you. | 14:09 |
| jamesh | me | 14:09 |
| bigjools | me | 14:09 |
| SteveA | me | 14:10 |
| carlos | me | 14:10 |
| ddaa | hey jrydberg__: long time no see | 14:10 |
| mpt | SteveA, I see you hiding there | 14:10 |
| cprov | me | 14:10 |
| SteveA | mpt: thanks for starting -- network issue here :-/ | 14:10 |
| Rinchen | mrevell and matsubara send their regretts. | 14:10 |
| leonardr_ | me | 14:10 |
| jrydberg__ | ddaa: yeah! sup? | 14:10 |
| mpt | SteveA, is it fixed, or continuing? | 14:10 |
| ddaa | jrydberg__: talk after meeting | 14:11 |
| SteveA | mpt: I hope it's fixed. meanwhile, please continue :-) | 14:11 |
| jrydberg__ | ddaa: agree! | 14:11 |
| salgado-afk | mpt, today is a holiday in Brazil. I'm around but may not be responsive | 14:11 |
| mpt | Team leads, please find your absent colleagues | 14:11 |
| mwhudson_ | what a time for wifi to die | 14:11 |
| mpt | == Agenda == | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Next meeting | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Actions from last meeting | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Oops report (Matsubara) | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Critical Bugs (Rinchen) | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Bug tags | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Operations report (mthaddon) | 14:11 |
| mpt | * DBA report (stub) | 14:11 |
| mpt | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 14:12 |
| mpt | * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) | 14:12 |
| mpt | * Next meeting | 14:12 |
| mpt | * Actions from last meeting | 14:12 |
| mpt | except minus the last two lines | 14:12 |
| mpt | * postgres shared memory - flacoste | 14:12 |
| mpt | * Renaming Launchpad projects? (malone, rosetta, meta-lp-deps, blueprint, soyuz) - kiko | 14:12 |
| mpt | * What to do with tickcount? - kiko | 14:12 |
| mpt | * Blockers | 14:12 |
| mpt | If you have any other items, please /msg me | 14:12 |
| SteveA | the issues from kiko are old | 14:12 |
| SteveA | from last meeting | 14:12 |
| mpt | ok, ta | 14:12 |
| SteveA | flacoste's one is old too | 14:13 |
| intellectronica | me | 14:13 |
| SteveA | there should be an item about removing [trivial] | 14:13 |
| mpt | That means there's a meeting I need to transcribe somewhere, then | 14:13 |
| mpt | == Next meeting == | 14:13 |
| mpt | Anyone who will be unable to attend same time next week? | 14:13 |
| mthaddon | US holiday | 14:13 |
| jtv | I'll be on vacation. | 14:13 |
| barry | me | 14:13 |
| BjornT | i'll be on vacation the whole week | 14:14 |
| barry | what mthaddon said | 14:14 |
| bac | ^^ | 14:14 |
| Rinchen | I'll be off too | 14:14 |
| Rinchen | I make a motion to cancel next week's meeting. :-) | 14:14 |
| flacoste | SteveA and kiko are away also next week? | 14:14 |
| Rinchen | SteveA will not be there. Kiko is unknown. | 14:15 |
| mpt | kiko is an enigma | 14:15 |
| Rinchen | Let's set the next meeting to the 29th then. | 14:15 |
| mpt | ok, next meeting in two weeks | 14:16 |
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| gmb | I think a few of our US folks might want that to be 15:00 UTC | 14:16 |
| mpt | Ah, now that daylight saving has begun | 14:16 |
| mpt | 4am NZT, whee | 14:17 |
| stub | Midnight here | 14:17 |
| stub | Oops... 10pm. Can't count. | 14:17 |
| LeRoutier | Hello | 14:17 |
| mpt | It might be better to discuss that on the mailing list | 14:17 |
| Rinchen | +1 | 14:17 |
| mpt | == Actions from last meeting == | 14:17 |
| carlos | 15:00 UTC is better for me too | 14:17 |
| danilos | mpt: didn't we have a simple table in the wiki for everyone to say their preferences? | 14:17 |
| barry | fwiw, we moved the ameu reviewers meeting to 1500utc | 14:18 |
| mpt | Yes, if everyone updates their data on <launchpad.canonical.com/MeetingTimes>, that will make the decision easier | 14:18 |
| mpt | so please go and do that | 14:18 |
| schwuk | mpt: you might want to send that to the list as well, for those that aren't here | 14:19 |
| mpt | ok, I'll do that | 14:19 |
| LeRoutier | About PPA, is that normal to see AMD64 packages beeing built by osmium (xen-i386) ? | 14:19 |
| LeRoutier | Is this one doing both AMD64 & x86 ? | 14:19 |
| mpt | Since I've forgotten to minute the last meeting (because I wasn't present), there are no actions | 14:19 |
| Rinchen | Hi LeRoutier, just a moment please. We're holding a meeting. | 14:19 |
| mpt | I'll mail any to the list | 14:20 |
| LeRoutier | ok, no prob | 14:20 |
| mpt | == Oops report == | 14:20 |
| danilos | mpt, let us hear it :) | 14:20 |
| mpt | There's one new oops I've deciphered so far, bug 162873 | 14:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 162873 in launchpad "LookupError when editing team if you changed your Launchpad ID after loading the form" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162873 | 14:20 |
| mpt | Who would like to take that one? | 14:20 |
| * mpt flees the stampede of volunteers | 14:21 | |
| flacoste | that sounds like a corner case to me... | 14:21 |
| Rinchen | flacoste, does salgado-afk have any time for that?> | 14:21 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: no | 14:21 |
| mpt | Yes, it's a corner case | 14:21 |
| SteveA | I'd make that a seriously low priority | 14:21 |
| SteveA | as in, let's not fix it in the next 2 cycles | 14:21 |
| mpt | ok, we can leave it unassigned | 14:21 |
| SteveA | that's the kind of thing we can look at making robust when we look at ajax stuff | 14:22 |
| mpt | Common recent oopses include bug 50617 and bug 42599 | 14:22 |
| ubotu | Bug 50617 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/50617 is private | 14:22 |
| ubotu | Bug 42599 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/42599 is private | 14:22 |
| mpt | both timeouts | 14:22 |
| jtv | (wakes up) It wasn't us this time? | 14:22 |
| gmb | Bless. | 14:23 |
| mpt | jtv, I was just about to say, "and of course +translate is timing out much more than any of those" | 14:23 |
| intellectronica | i can take a look at 50617 | 14:23 |
| carlos | mpt: I hope this is the last meeting with that issue ;-) | 14:23 |
| mpt | SteveA, it's not obvious to me why the team editing form needs to have a hidden field with the owner in it in the first place | 14:23 |
| jtv | carlos: flw | 14:24 |
| SteveA | mpt: that's worth another bug. | 14:24 |
| SteveA | mpt: I'd say that's a separate bug to one coping with forms that are loaded while an id is changed behind the scenes. | 14:24 |
| jamesh | mpt: using old form infrastructure maybe? | 14:25 |
| jamesh | using ContextWidget or whatever it is called | 14:25 |
| mpt | SteveA, for this specific bug, removing the owner field is one possible solution | 14:25 |
| mpt | If there are other forms that have owner and shouldn't, I agree those are separate bugs | 14:25 |
| === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette | ||
| flacoste | mpt: yeah, converting that form to LaunchpadFormView would solve the issue | 14:25 |
| SteveA | mpt: true. however, I still say we don't need to fix that specific bug. | 14:25 |
| mpt | 42599 is about distroarchreleases, and 50617 is about blueprints. Who should fix them? | 14:26 |
| intellectronica | mpt: i volunteered for 50617 | 14:27 |
| mpt | thanks intellectronica | 14:27 |
| mpt | ok, moving on | 14:27 |
| mpt | == Critical bugs (Rinchen) == | 14:27 |
| Rinchen | Hi, 3 for today, all Soyuz. | 14:27 |
| Rinchen | cprov, bigjools: Status for Bug #155921, Bug #157552, and Bug #159304 please. :-) Thanks. | 14:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 155921 in soyuz "copy-package cannot copy between archives" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155921 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov) | 14:27 |
| ubotu | Bug 157552 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/157552 is private | 14:27 |
| ubotu | Bug 159304 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/159304 is private | 14:27 |
| cprov | Rinchen: my two pieces are under review | 14:28 |
| Rinchen | fantastic | 14:28 |
| bigjools | mine is landed | 14:28 |
| bigjools | and released | 14:28 |
| Rinchen | Great. Please update the bug if you haven't in the last hour :-) | 14:28 |
| Rinchen | Thanks. | 14:28 |
| bigjools | and cprov is currently fudging production to re-publish the indexes | 14:28 |
| bigjools | I have :)( | 14:28 |
| Rinchen | That was easy. And painless. | 14:29 |
| Rinchen | Thanks. Back to you mpt | 14:29 |
| mpt | == Bug tags == | 14:29 |
| mpt | <https://help.launchpad.net/TaggingLaunchpadBugs> says there are two proposed tags, bugtag and hwdb | 14:30 |
| mpt | Is that accurate, or have they already been discussed? | 14:30 |
| flacoste | that's accurate | 14:30 |
| flacoste | both from kiko i guess | 14:30 |
| mpt | Yes, both are from kiko | 14:30 |
| mpt | who isn't here | 14:30 |
| * SteveA looks | 14:31 | |
| mpt | He's already used "bugtags" on 28 bug reports | 14:31 |
| Ubulette | how often are the NEW for hardy reviewed ? | 14:32 |
| SteveA | rather than "bugtag" proposed? | 14:32 |
| Rinchen | SteveA, yeah. | 14:32 |
| SteveA | Ubulette: that's a question for the ubuntu people. | 14:32 |
| SteveA | Ubulette: we're the launchpad people. | 14:32 |
| jamesh | Ubulette: maybe you are looking for #ubuntu | 14:32 |
| Ubulette | oh, right :) | 14:32 |
| Hobbsee | Ubulette: when the archive admins do it. | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | and they are not LP people. | 14:33 |
| mpt | Yes, he's proposed "bugtag" but used "bugtags" | 14:33 |
| Ubulette | ok, thanks | 14:33 |
| mpt | There is only one example of a bug that would use "hwdb", bug 3382 | 14:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 3382 in malone "Enable users to submit HW info to a DB and reference these DB records in bug reports" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3382 | 14:33 |
| mpt | SteveA, what's your verdict? | 14:34 |
| Rinchen | Eventually I'd like to have non-bug tags. However we can cross the bridge when we come to it. | 14:34 |
| Rinchen | I'm ok with both at the moment. | 14:34 |
| mpt | Rinchen, by then we might have mass tag-changing, so we won't even need to have this discussion :-) | 14:34 |
| SteveA | remove the proposal of hwdb. it needn't be an official tag. needn't reject it either. | 14:34 |
| SteveA | there doesn't seem to be much call for an official hwdb tag just now in the bug data | 14:35 |
| SteveA | there are 0 bugs tagged 'bugtag' | 14:36 |
| SteveA | so obviously that's not going to be accepted :-) | 14:36 |
| SteveA | should the tag be 'bugtag' or 'bugtags' ? | 14:36 |
| Rinchen | I vote for bugtags since it's already in use | 14:36 |
| mpt | SteveA, there have often been tags proposed before they were used | 14:36 |
| Rinchen | The search in the proposal yields what appears to be those tagged with bugtags | 14:37 |
| mpt | All right, bugtag is declined because people should be using bugtags instead. Onward! | 14:37 |
| SteveA | mpt: there's "used" as in "bugs exist that would be tagged with this", and there's "used" as in "bugs have been tagged with this tag" | 14:37 |
| SteveA | hang on | 14:37 |
| mpt | == Operations report (mthaddon) == | 14:37 |
| SteveA | please wait a sec | 14:37 |
| mpt | ok | 14:37 |
| SteveA | is 'bugtag' clearly a superior name to 'bugtags' ? | 14:38 |
| SteveA | or vice versa? | 14:38 |
| SteveA | if they're equivalent, then we can update the proposed tag to 'bugtags', and approve it | 14:38 |
| mpt | With the disclaimer that I don't think any of this really matters, we have "bugwatch" not "bugwatches" | 14:38 |
| SteveA | if 'bugtag' is clearly better as a name, we should update all 'bugtags' tags to 'bugtag', and approve 'bugtag' | 14:38 |
| mpt | "motu", not "motus" | 14:39 |
| mpt | and "ppa", not "ppas" | 14:39 |
| SteveA | then, 'bugtag' approved. someone needs to do (a db query perhaps) to update the tags | 14:39 |
| * Rinchen assigns that to kiko. ;-) | 14:39 | |
| mpt | ok. | 14:39 |
| Rinchen | I'll send him an email with this. | 14:39 |
| mpt | == Operations report (mthaddon) == | 14:39 |
| mthaddon | Moving to release-critical in PQM on (most likely) Sat morning US time | 14:39 |
| mthaddon | Nothing else to report | 14:39 |
| mpt | thanks Tom | 14:40 |
| gmb | mthaddon: Which US time? | 14:40 |
| stub | If you have to ask, you are LATE | 14:40 |
| stub | :) | 14:40 |
| mpt | == DBA report (stub) == | 14:40 |
| mthaddon | gmb, was being vague, but west coast | 14:40 |
| * gmb wants to know how far he can push his luck | 14:40 | |
| stub | The DB review queue is clear except for one branch from cprov and another from Edwin. I suspect Edwin's patch shouldn't go through yet (private team boolean). I think cprovs will be fine but want to get sign off from sabdfl if possible. | 14:40 |
| stub | The next rollout will have significant downtime (4 hours or so) due to the Rosetta schema migration assuming the branch lands in time. I would suggest delaying the rollout if that is a problem because this is a good time of the year to do it. | 14:40 |
| stub | Nothing else thrilling happening. | 14:40 |
| stub | EOM | 14:40 |
| mpt | thanks Stuart | 14:41 |
| mpt | == Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) == | 14:41 |
| Rinchen | Hi! Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? I'm aware of APIs and Feed items. | 14:41 |
| Rinchen | and mailing list | 14:41 |
| cprov | stub: would you like to book a conference call to discuss my patch ? | 14:41 |
| stub | cprov: I'm happy with it. I'll wave it through if I can't wave it past mark by my tomorrow. | 14:42 |
| Rinchen | no takers. Ok, back to you mpt. | 14:42 |
| cprov | stub: okay, thanks | 14:42 |
| mpt | thanks Joey | 14:43 |
| mpt | == A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) == | 14:43 |
| Rinchen | skip | 14:43 |
| mpt | ok | 14:43 |
| mpt | In mrevell's absence, I'm fairly confident in stating that the top user-affecting issue at the moment is the translations timeouts | 14:43 |
| mpt | jtv, is your branch on track for landing? | 14:43 |
| jtv | mpt: getting there | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: and timeouts in general, yes. | 14:44 |
| jtv | we should make it. | 14:44 |
| mpt | ok | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: anything requiring a search box is also quite bad. | 14:44 |
| mpt | == Blockers == | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | (w.r.t timeouts) | 14:44 |
| flacoste | Foundations team: not blocked | 14:44 |
| jtv | Translations team: Not blocked. | 14:44 |
| BjornT | Bugs team: not blocked | 14:45 |
| Rinchen | Releases Team: Not Blocked. | 14:45 |
| mpt | Perhaps SteveA would like to say something here about when to regard yourself as blocked? | 14:45 |
| mpt | given that we've been discussing it recently | 14:46 |
| mpt | Soyuz team? Bazaar team? Special Ops team? | 14:46 |
| SteveA | we were dicussing 'blocked' vs 'stalled' | 14:46 |
| SteveA | SC: not blocked | 14:46 |
| bac | Collaborative Commerce: Feeds blocked on new caching setup | 14:46 |
| schwuk | hwdb: not blocked | 14:47 |
| SteveA | where 'blocked' means 'cannot proceed because of depending on someone or something external to the team' | 14:47 |
| SteveA | or 'out of the team's control' | 14:47 |
| bigjools | Soyuz: not blocked | 14:47 |
| mpt | ddaa, are you representing the LP-Bazaar team today? | 14:47 |
| SteveA | and 'stalled' meaning 'not making progress, despite not being blocked' | 14:47 |
| SteveA | and that might be because there is other work going on | 14:47 |
| mwhudson_ | Code team: bug 144744 | 14:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144744 in launchpad-bazaar "get a better design for loggerhead" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144744 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) | 14:47 |
| SteveA | or because the task in question was not RTC (ready to code) when started | 14:48 |
| * mwhudson_ was hunting bug numbers | 14:48 | |
| ddaa | mpt: was talking with mwhudson_ offline about blockage | 14:48 |
| mpt | ok | 14:48 |
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| SteveA | maybe it'll be helpful to have team leads report on stalled tasks too. I dont' want to discuss that here, today, though, as we're almost out of time. | 14:48 |
| mpt | ok, thanks SteveA | 14:49 |
| mpt | bac, who should be setting up the caching? | 14:49 |
| mpt | or is that an RT? | 14:49 |
| bac | mpt: work between SteveA, Joey, and an external resource | 14:49 |
| mpt | mwhudson, I'll discuss with Rinchen scheduling that for next cycle | 14:50 |
| Rinchen | there is a blocking rt which elmo knows about | 14:50 |
| mpt | ok | 14:50 |
| mwhudson | mpt: thank you | 14:50 |
| mpt | And that's all for today | 14:50 |
| Rinchen | Thanks for running the meeting mpt. | 14:50 |
| mpt | MEETING ENDS | 14:50 |
| mpt | thank you everyone | 14:50 |
| mpt | and sorry we went over time | 14:50 |
| mwhudson | mpt: it's not super-duper hi priority, nor do i necessarily want _you_ to do the work | 14:50 |
| mwhudson | mpt: but you said you'd get something done... | 14:51 |
| mpt | mwhudson, basically the answer is, (1) embed it in main-template.pt or (2) give it the Launchpad color scheme but nothing else | 14:51 |
| mpt | and iirc (1) is impossible, right? | 14:51 |
| mwhudson | mpt: er | 14:52 |
| mwhudson | the question is simply _getting a better design_ | 14:52 |
| mwhudson | the css and layout are both pretty terrible at the moment | 14:52 |
| mwhudson | once a better groundwork is laid for that, we can see about the launchpad integration aspect | 14:53 |
| mpt | mwhudson, oh, so you mean a design for loggerhead wherever it's used, whether in Launchpad or not? | 14:53 |
| SteveA | bac: for setting up cacheing for feeds, IS should be able to do that for basic testing | 14:54 |
| SteveA | bac: we shouldn't block launching feeds on having a whole new infrastructure | 14:54 |
| mwhudson | mpt: yes | 14:54 |
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| mpt | mwhudson, ok. I misunderstood the bug report. | 14:55 |
| bac | SteveA: from our meeting at AH it was my impression we could not proceed until we had squid in place and it was going to be done as a single effort. | 14:55 |
| mwhudson | mpt: apologies for not being clearer | 14:55 |
| mwhudson | mpt: do you want to amend it, or should i? | 14:55 |
| bac | SteveA: i'll talk to mthaddon and figure out how to proceed. | 14:56 |
| mpt | mwhudson, I can | 14:56 |
| mwhudson | mpt: thanks | 14:56 |
| mpt | mwhudson, are there lists anywhere of problems people have with the current design? | 14:56 |
| nealmcb | the project I just registered, https://edge.launchpad.net/libvirt is set to not do translations, questions or bug reports, but there are three prominent buttons on the main page prompting people to use it for just that - what's up? | 14:57 |
| mwhudson | mpt: well, i have a problem in that the css is terrible | 14:58 |
| mwhudson | in the sense that there's a selector for practically every element | 14:58 |
| lamont | cprov-lunch: when you're back from lunch, wondering of chroot-problem failures autoretry, or if there is a mass give-back to do... | 15:00 |
| nealmcb | and the link for the bug tracker leads not to the redhat bugzilla, but to a list of all launchpad bugs being watched at redhat - hardly the place someone would want to go to report a bug, I'd think | 15:00 |
| cprov-lunch | lamont: how do you mean ? | 15:14 |
| bigjools | lamont: can I help? | 15:17 |
| mpt | "Tip: Leaving your mouse over the FAQ or question title will pop out the beginning of the content." | 15:20 |
| mpt | Darn, I knew I should have set that mousetrap, now the content is spilled *everywhere* | 15:21 |
| ubotu | New bug: #162891 in malone "Restricted Drivers fails to install in fresh OS." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162891 | 15:21 |
| lamont | cprov-lunch: apparently when I upgraded launchpad-buildd on the buildds yesterday, it broke lpia (not sure how), and there were "chroot error" failures in quantity. | 15:33 |
| lamont | those all need to be retried now that the chroots are better | 15:33 |
| lamont | if that's automatic, we can both go back to sleep. if it's not, then I'm reminded that there is no UI in LP for doing mass givebacks | 15:33 |
| bigjools | lamont: cprov is supposed to be on a holiday today - I'll chase it up for you | 15:37 |
| lamont | ah, ok | 15:40 |
| * lamont wonders how the ride is in the area of Chile this morning | 15:49 | |
| lamont | (earthquakes can be fun, no?) | 15:50 |
| bigjools | lamont: how many builds failed? | 16:01 |
| lamont | bigjools: dunno | 16:04 |
| lamont | elmo mentioned it | 16:04 |
| bigjools | ok thanks | 16:05 |
| elmo | I don't have any easy way of telling how many builds failed, so I don't know either | 16:37 |
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| Ubulette | what's happening in PPAs during the 1h window between the Accepted email and the release 1st appears on lp +archive/+builds (even before it's taggued as queued) ? | 19:02 |
| Ubulette | is that expected ? | 19:03 |
| Ubulette | even when all ppa builders are idle waiting, i see that 1h gap lost doing (apparently) nothing | 19:04 |
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| dpm | Could anyone tell me where I can temporarily cancel the redirect from production Launchpad to Edge? On launchpad-users there is a mention that this is possible through a link in the Edge homepage, but I just can't find it. | 21:06 |
| Ubulette | dpm, visit https://launchpad.net/, there's a yellow banner at the top of the homepage | 21:08 |
| dpm | Ubulette: many thanks. I was reading this post -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2007-September/002107.html, which mentions that the link is at the Edge homepage. However, it seems to be at the Launchpad homepage | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | weird, I thought they were the same thing | 21:12 |
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| LaserJock | I think one of the Rosetta admins needs to do it but I'm not sure | 22:05 |
| Cillian | Yeh, that's what it seemed like to me | 22:06 |
| Cillian | Hmm, I'll have another poke at the weekend, thanks anyway | 22:06 |
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