[00:15] how would i run lintian/linda on sources befor ei upload to revu? [00:15] run it on the .dsc [00:16] or the .changes [00:16] lintian file.dsc? [00:17] or file.changes [00:17] yep [00:17] ok ty [00:17] either [02:31] hi, can anyone shed some light on the release date of kde4 beta4 for gutsy? something i'm sure has never been asked before here.. :) [02:31] when it's done. [02:31] apparently. [02:31] i think the plan is to go to beta 5 / whatever they're calling it. [02:31] antoneeo: its dead easy to compile it from SVN [02:31] won't RC1 be out on november 20? [02:32] nosrednaekim: i did try, but my system is overheating constantly when compiling. but that's my own prob... so, for my part, i gotta wait :( [02:34] antoneeo: :D [02:34] Hobbsee: hmm, well i guess it would be smarter for the kubuntu krew to wait for the next beta/rc as that seems to be far along [02:34] :-( :-) [02:34] antoneeo: you could try to find someone who has already compiled it and grab it off of them ;) [02:35] nosrednaekim: that might work [02:36] nosrednaekim: if only time came in bigger bags :) [02:36] antoneeo: I'd offer myself, but I think you'd find it painful to grab it over my dial-up :D [02:36] nosrednaekim: thanks for the thought! [02:37] i suppose i'll just use the time to continue my qt4 book, then [02:37] nosrednaekim: how is it, though? the fabled beta4? =) [02:37] antoneeo: Near usable [02:38] *giddy* [02:38] antoneeo: i'm using svn... work fairly well,most plamsa problems [02:40] very nice [02:40] can't hardly wait :) [02:40] kwin compisting even works. [02:44] regarding the svn procedure: do you really need to build Qt, too? because when i didn't, i got that /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/crypto admin error... [02:45] antoneeo: no,you don't need to build qt, but you do need to build kdelibs as root [02:46] ...i got that error when building kdesupport, that is. which i thought wasn't necessary to build (according to KDE techbase) until i hit an error when building kdebase (somewhere around runtime) -- that was when i opened my windows and the cpu didn't overheat [02:46] hmm, okay [02:48] but... when i build kdelibs5 as root from svn, won't that interfere later with the next repo beta/rc? [02:57] and: how would i have to change the kdelibs build recipe from http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdelibs ? === _czessi is now known as Czessi [06:27] Tonio_: hey you gonna do anything exciting with KT 2.2.3? I'm getting clamoring about it over at upstream's forums so I'm thinking about bumping our Hardy packaging to 2.2.3 [06:29] KT? [06:29] Torrent? [06:31] yeah, KTorrent [06:31] sorry bout that [06:41] * jdong build tests :) [06:44] Hi Hobbsee [06:45] hey DaSkreech [06:45] good night :) [07:17] Tonio_: unpoke, I just packaged it, bug #163041 if you are interested [07:17] Launchpad bug 163041 in ktorrent "[SPONSOR] Ktorrent 2.2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163041 [07:26] jdong: hey ;) [07:26] just woke up, hi everyone [07:26] Tonio_: morning :) [07:27] long time no see! === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:28] jdong: true ! how are you ? [07:28] jdong: I'll revue and upload kt right now [07:28] Tonio_: oh I'm hanging in there, swamped with schoolwork but still managing to burn time in here :) [07:29] Tonio_: thanks muchly.... those KTorrent folks tend to be real fidgety with not geting the latest version [07:29] in fact at upstream's forums it tends to be a race of which distro gets packages out first :D [07:29] hehe [07:45] jdong: kt uploaded [07:46] Tonio_: thanks! [08:43] Riddell: ping ? [08:43] Riddell: which package is used to create those "Music" and "Videos" folder at the root of $HOME ? [08:44] Riddell: french translation needs improvements, and there is also a very little problem with one icon I'd like to fix [08:44] Riddell: apt-file seems not to work with hardy yet, so finding the good package isn't that easy :) [08:50] Riddell: oki, that's kdelibs [08:54] Tonio_: xdg-user-dirs? [08:56] mhb: yep, but that's been added to kdelibs by Riddell [08:56] mhb: and there is a very little bug with an icon for "documents" [08:56] mhb: try to save a file for example with kate [08:56] mhb: do you get an icon for the "document" part ? [08:57] hardy needed of course [08:58] Tonio_: I don't [08:59] don't get the icon or don't have hardy ? ;) [09:00] Tonio_: get the icon [09:00] I've edited those .directory files in the past, so I don't know if it's not me [09:01] mhb: I'll make a point with riddell on that point :) [09:02] Riddell: was thinking about that [09:02] Riddell: shouldn't patch 93 and 94 should be merged ? [09:02] Riddell: both are doing the same thing with the same code in it [09:02] except Documents isn't done the same way than other directories.... [09:11] mhb: the point is that the patches should be merged ihmo, but I'd like Riddell's opinion before doing so since I'm curious why mandriva does it that way [09:11] Tonio_: ah [09:12] they are doing 2 differents way for the same result : adding folders in the user $HOME and an entry in the speedbar [09:12] I don't really understand why btw [09:17] Tonio_: well that's what the speedbar is for, isn't it? It's easier to go to those folders that way, and you can find them even without it (in GTK dialogs or so) [09:18] mhb: yep [09:53] Riddell: I just fixed the kdebluetooth obex server problem someone reported here last week, it'll work now [09:56] what's the name of the kcm module that lets you turn the kde sound system on or off? [10:08] kwwii: rock on :) [10:08] kwwii: that flower pic [10:24] * _buz wonders at the last part of the topic :P === mhb changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 out, you all rock! | Merge away: http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | KDE4 Beta 4 packages delayed because of Personal Package Archive build issues [10:48] _buz: better? :o) [10:48] <_buz> yeah that makes more sense :( [10:50] _buz: I'm not happy about it either, but KDE4 packaging is Riddell's and nixternal's turf, and when PPA does something funky nobody outside Canonical can do anything about it [11:11] hi [11:16] Tonio_: fixed in gutsy? [11:16] mhb: they're tracking it down. [11:18] Riddell: what's fixed in gutsy ? [11:19] Tonio_: "I just fixed the kdebluetooth obex server problem" [11:19] Riddell: hardy not gutsy [11:19] Riddell: I also have found a very strange issue with kdebluetooth [11:20] Riddell: it doesn't load locales [11:20] so gutsy works fine? [11:20] Riddell: no, buggy [11:20] Riddell: would like a fix for gutsy ? that seems minor issue for me.... [11:25] Tonio_: I've no idea what the issue in gutsy is [11:25] Riddell: transfert a file with bluetooth doesn't work from the remote device to the computer [11:26] Riddell: I just fixed that for hardy, there was a missing binary in the package [11:26] Riddell: dunno if you'd like to get a fix for gutsy [11:26] sounds like the sort of thing that ought to be fixed, especially if it's just adding a line to a .install file [11:27] okay I'll propose a fix then [11:49] I have a process that take 100%, but top doesn't show it, how can I do to discover it? [11:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/162649 [11:49] Launchpad bug 162649 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Abnormal CPU load and fan" [Undecided,New] [11:52] * Hobbsee notes that the original guy does not know how to file good bugs at all [11:52] yes you're right [11:52] his other one is spectacularly bad. [11:55] MidMark: does baltix use update-manager? [11:57] Hobbsee: sorry haven't understood [11:57] what are you talking about? [11:58] MidMark: the bug with 86 dupes, about the memory management. [11:58] people are screaming over it being marked as invalid. which section got it marked as that? [11:58] MidMark: looks like you can close https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/32853 [11:58] Launchpad bug 32853 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 "installing NVIDIA non-free binary package requires manual configuration" [Undecided,Invalid] [11:59] mark gutsy as fixed, the others as wontfix. [12:00] MidMark: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/146932 doesn't have enough information. pleasefix. [12:00] Launchpad bug 146932 in debconf "package debconf 1.5.14 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] [12:00] Hobbsee: now installing nvidia-glx-new change also xorg.conf? [12:00] MidMark: read the bottom of the bug. and unbreakable X [12:04] Hobbsee: for what I know this bug is not fixed [12:04] xorg.conf is not automatically changed [12:04] MidMark: which one? [12:04] does it even rely on an xorg.conf anymore? [12:04] Hobbsee: wait please, one bug at once [12:04] too much confusion [12:04] bug 32853 [12:04] Launchpad bug 32853 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 "installing NVIDIA non-free binary package requires manual configuration" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32853 [12:05] * Hobbsee is going through your bugs, and asking for information. [12:05] yes. [12:05] if you install the driver the xorg.conf isn't changed [12:06] what i'm saying - does it even rely on the xorg.conf anymore anyway? [12:07] I think installing the driver shouldn't change the xorg.conf, but yes, this could be changed via system settings -> video settings [12:08] it should all just work now. [12:08] without the xorg.conf. [12:08] this is part of the stuff about the new xorg, with unbreakable X. [12:09] Hobbsee: ok honestly I haven't tested the new unbreakable X [12:09] then perhaps you should. [12:09] it's in gutsy. [12:09] before you tell me that it doesnt work [12:10] Hobbsee: I have said: "For what I know this bug is not fixed", the sentence is true I think, isn't? [12:11] sure, but it's useless :) [12:11] it's assumed that when you come to say that bugs arent fixed, that you're at least using the latest stable, if not hte development version [12:13] Hobbsee: I have gutsy in fact, but I haven't tryed this particular new x.org system, for example I have tested gdebi and it sucks a lot (sorry but it's the truth) don't know who decided to put it instead of service menu [12:13] WFM. [12:14] you havent said what sucks about it yet, but i do agree with the one bug i saw about it. [12:14] ok one bug at once, let's close the xorg, so you say that now you install the nvidia package and? it also change the xorg? [12:15] dunno. apparently so, based on what the last person has said. [12:15] and it was one of the features of bulletproof X. [12:16] last person talk about wireless that is completely OT and I haven't understood well, much confusion, I post a question [12:17] you said to stay on one bug at once. [12:17] in the xorg bug, the last person said that it worked in gutsy. [12:18] Hobbsee: can also be that Gutsy recognized the card and changed xorg.conf in the update process and not in the package ;) or I'm wrong? [12:18] i'm not an x master [12:18] but that's quite possible. *shrug* [12:18] would be odd, though. [12:18] well, no, wait, hang on. [12:19] think about what you've said [12:19] all a dist-upgrade does is upgrade the packages, including Xorg. [12:19] so your either/or there is actually the same thing. [12:19] Hobbsee: let me ask to a friend of mine that yesterday have installed nvidia driver on Gutsy [12:20] ok now he is not online, I will ask later, go on with gdebi [12:20] the problem for me that was on Feisty (regression) too is [12:20] you cannot install packages with dependencies one to the other, like for example google earth [12:21] Edgy was the last kubuntu that let you do this [12:21] patches welcome for gdebi, then. [12:21] it also doesnt search the repository for the package it's missing too. *sigh*> [12:22] gdebi is only useful when you install ONE package then yes [12:22] but not very common [12:22] so, make it smarter. [12:23] it has to be fixed for ubuntu anyway. code duplication is bad. [12:24] Hobbsee: if I show you what something isn't good I haven't to patch everythings, also I really don't know anything about these projects, my question is: before changing something that works change with something that at least do the same things as predecessor, if better ok, but not worse :) [12:25] Riddell: would you like adept to show a passive popup near the systray when new updates are available ? [12:25] Riddell: same way you are prompted with the restricted manager, to invite people to click [12:25] and gdebi is a very step backward than service menu, very nice to see, very useless [12:25] Riddell: that would be nice for noobs I guess [12:29] MidMark: it has a lot of other useful stuff in it. to go back to service menu would also be a step backwards [12:29] MidMark: if you want to see it fixed now, then fix it. learn the skills as required. it's quite simple. [12:29] Hobbsee: your opinion, would that be a good idea ? [12:30] MidMark: you can't expect volunteers to do your bidding. [12:30] Tonio_: that works nicely in ubuntu already. based on the nature of the updates, its' probably a good thing. [12:30] Hobbsee: I only expect good choice, none has to be on my bidding [12:31] Hobbsee: okay, will do then [12:31] MidMark: can you still install the service menu stuff? [12:33] Hobbsee: yes I have reinstalled service menu and I'm ok for now, but I only thought about other people that don't know this [12:33] then fix it for them [12:42] Tonio_: I think not, it would get in the way too much [12:43] Riddell: well if it just appears once in a kde session [12:44] Riddell: note that there are not that many updates on a stable release, that's my concern [12:44] Riddell: a noob wouldn't know where to click to perform updates [12:44] Riddell: btw, ubuntu does this too [12:44] only once in a session of course, no prompt every 5 minutes [12:46] Riddell: what do you mean by "in the way too much" ? [12:53] the ubuntu one gets in my way a lot I find [12:53] if I want to upgrade I will, I don't want it to hassle me about it [12:56] Hobbsee: ok who I have to ping for gdebi? [12:56] Riddell: but how if you don't know how to ? [12:56] MidMark: have a look at whoever's uploaded it [12:56] MidMark: but be warned, you'll probably need to write the code for it, if they're off doing other things [12:56] Hobbsee: coding is not the problem, coding without breaking things yes :) [12:56] Riddell: the icon that comes in the systray is not obviously to update the computer [12:57] Riddell: that's my concern [12:57] Tonio_: no but it's obviously for something, being a warning sign and all [12:57] there's a tooltip [12:57] I don't see a reason to go against the ubuntu HCI principle of "don't get in my way" [12:57] (even if ubuntu does it) [12:58] Riddell: hum... well I don't know any os (except kubuntu) that doesn't prompt you to update somehow [12:58] Riddell: why do we do it for the restricted manager then ? [12:58] same logic, if I want to disable proprietary things, I'll do it, no need to get in my way [12:59] that makes sense, but makes things a bit obfusctated for new users imho.... [12:59] some people might not even see the icon.... (some people are like informatics handicaped :/) [13:00] Riddell: I'm not talking about a popup that stays here until you click on it, just once that comes 10 seconds only once in the session to invite you to perform updates [13:00] Riddell: do you consider this getting in your way ? ;) [13:03] Riddell: not to insist, I'd like to understand were, according to you, is the limit [13:04] Riddell: and imho, if most other OS does it (osx...) that may be usefull regarding to usability no ? [13:12] I'm unsure about restricted manager too, but that's only ever once [13:12] update manager would be every time there's an update [13:12] and more popups == badness [13:12] which tend to be somewhat important. [13:13] now maybe if it were combined with the restricted manager one somehow, that would be more interesting [13:13] weren't we ment to have a meeting this week? [13:14] oh, shit, it's saturday already [13:14] my week is so screwed up. [13:14] i have an exam on *saturday*. [13:15] revise! [13:20] have already been doing so [13:20] few things have come up, which makes study hard though [13:21] but at the same time it is not so imperative that users install the updates (say compared to oh ms windows 3,4, or 5) [13:22] no please don't popup [13:23] or at least put a "don't popup" option [13:24] and that would be for only users in the admin group anyway, right; [13:27] WaltzingAlong: hell no :) [13:58] jdong, Tonio_: why was ktorrents -0ubuntu2 uploaded before 1? [14:04] jpatrick: was it ? [14:18] does anyone know a Matvey Kozhev? [14:28] kwwii: do you have time to send me the svg for the leaflet? [14:32] jpatrick: nick is familiar. look it up on lp [14:33] Hello [14:42] hi DaSkreech [14:42] * DaSkreech waves [14:46] I think I may have narrowed down the crashes [14:46] oh good [14:52] hi Jucato [14:52] yo [14:52] hi [14:53] what did I miss for the whole day? :) [14:58] Hi Jucato [14:58] hi DaSkreech [14:58] How are you? [15:00] hey Jucato \o [15:00] ey yo stdin! [15:00] DaSkreech: I'm fine I guess :) [15:01] Jucato: I built my first Qt app yesterday :D [15:01] I built mine a few hours ago.... "Hello Qt!" [15:01] :D [15:01] congrats :) [15:02] * DaSkreech slaps Jucato [15:03] You need to know me a lot better to start calling me Qt [15:03] I did slightly better than Hello Qt ;) http://stdin.pastebin.us/?show=d55bfd20 [15:03] DaSkreech: I would never do that [15:03] stdin: impressive [15:03] and I only started reading the Qt tutorial on monday, so this is after a week [15:03] :-) [15:03] you are 500 paces ahead of me :) [15:03] Qt is nice to work with [15:04] * Hobbsee found a python book :) [15:04] DaSkreech: I'd call you uGly :) [15:04] They had A documentary on Jamaica on the travel channel last night followed by one on the Phillipines [15:04] Hobbsee: nice! I have one myself... a bit dated though I think [15:04] I thought that was qt ;-) [15:04] Hobbsee: Practical Python... seems nice.. judging from the contents [15:04] Jucato: You and everyone else [15:04] Jucato: library is useful for something. [15:05] yeah, it's great to visit the Philippines this time of the year and go to the beaches... [15:05] flash floods, typhoons, overcrowded ships... [15:05] sinking... [15:06] Jucato: It was mostly about food [15:07] stdin: I congratulate you. I've had a qt4 book with me since august, and I haven't really gone past chapter 2 [15:08] jpatrick: yepp, I'll look for it now [15:08] Jucato: I haven't got a book, but I've been reading http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/tutorial.html [15:08] * Jucato waves to kwwii, the big man in the UDS pic... [15:08] stdin: woah, sweet app [15:09] jpatrick: thanks :) [15:09] * Jucato didn't compile it... does it build? :) [15:09] yep, works too [15:09] yep, and looks nice [15:09] just run "qmake ; make" [15:09] * Jucato is curious.. tries it [15:09] or qmake-qt4 if it's not set to qt4 [15:09] well I have to copy it first :P [15:09] I'd do qmake-qt4 -project; qmake-qt4; make [15:10] ahh yeah, no .pro :p [15:10] yeah me too [15:10] cleaner that way :) [15:10] jpatrick: all done without designer too, so I'm proud of that :p [15:10] stdin: nice, thanks, I could learn a lot from this [15:13] hey kwwii [15:13] yay.. SoC tshirt! [15:13] yay [15:14] stdin: very nice [15:14] kwwii: remember the idea we had about a community wallpaper? [15:14] Oh congrats on getting the default wallpaper in KDEbetas I dond't know that was you :) [15:15] Jucato: it's helped me learn quite a bit quite quickly, trial and error [15:15] Can I do a reverse lookup for required ? [15:15] * Jucato is now jealous and goes into a bout of self-pity... [15:15] What other packages have this package as a required ? [15:16] Jucato: just run "sed 's/Terence Simpson/Juan Carlos Torres/g' " and claim you made it first :p [15:16] * Jucato self-pities even more... [15:17] and install qt4-doc, that's extremely useful [15:17] assistant really is [15:17] /usr/share/qt4/doc/html/ ftw! [15:17] sudo apt-get remove --purge procrastination self-pity [15:18] Jucato: sudo read-book [15:18] explains each header and function really well, so even I can understand it :p [15:18] error: Unfulfilled dependencies [15:18] jpatrick: command not found [15:18] stdin: you mean apidocs? [15:18] DaSkreech: which community wallpaper? [15:18] hehe, I tried to put that pic in kubuntu too [15:19] kwwii: some community wallpapers. Have people submit them and then package up popular ones in a release package [15:19] kubuntu-communitywalls-gutsy [15:19] Jucato: basically yeah, but it gives examples and reverse inheritance info etc. really well made docs [15:19] kubuntu-communitywalls-hardy [15:19] DaSkreech: I have nothing against it if someone steps up and creates artwork and the package itself ;-) [15:20] stdin: yeah. qt and kde apidocs are a great read :) [15:20] Hopefully by the time a release comes around there would be something useful enough that we don't have to bother you and we get fresh artwork and meat :) [15:20] I started to make a new package called just gutsy-community-wallpapers but never got around to finishing it [15:21] well I think the artwork behind Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu are divergent enough that they should get different packages [15:28] DaSkreech: maybe https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers ? [15:29] jpatrick: http://sinecera.de/flyer.svg [15:31] kwwii: one last thing, does the CC license allow translations? [15:32] jpatrick: I would assume so [15:32] ok, thanks again [15:33] as long as it allow derivatives it should [15:33] jpatrick: anyway, that document it made by myself so I give you the right ;-) [15:44] Hi [15:44] hello keith === keith is now known as CPrgmSwR2 [15:45] I had issues install kde4 from directly through svn so I refomatted and did a kubuntu gutsy install rather than upgrading from fiesty [15:46] Would someone like me to try and create a kde4 package? [15:46] off of rc1 [15:47] there are kde4 packages in universe [15:47] but they are 3.94 [15:47] not to mention stdin did you read the chat room topic [15:48] yes, so you know why there isn't beta 4 yet ;) [15:48] correct.... and rc1 is already been tagged [15:50] if you can make a working set of debs then I'm sure Riddell would appreciate the help (afaik it's just him and nixternal that make the packages for kde4) [15:50] afaik too === \sh is now known as \sh_away [15:52] stdin: I have had lots of experience compiling kde4 in the past [15:52] I just don't have any experience making dep packages [15:52] compiling is easy, making working debs, now that's hard :p [15:52] Oh [15:52] Is there a tutorial on it? [15:52] though the problem seems to be more on the Launchpad side of things [15:52] !packaging [15:52] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [15:53] Jucato: I have a fairly fast computer and could make them on my pc [15:53] it has to build in a chroot, so you need to specify all the build dependencies and then configure all the packages and what files go in which and then link them all all with package dependencies [15:53] they'd still have to be bulit on LP in order to be distributable to the repos [15:53] it can be a real headache [15:53] through the repos* [15:54] jpatrick: Is there anything in there? [15:54] Oh so there isn't away around LP? [15:54] DaSkreech: no idea, I just found it as a new project [15:54] CPrgmSwR2: nop, they have the build servers there [15:54] no, all packages in the repos get build by canonical (or launchpad for PPAs) [15:55] you can only upload source packages, not binaries [15:55] In other words they MUST build on LP in order to be released [15:56] yes [15:56] hola [15:56] at least released through the repos [15:56] aloh [15:56] oh-la [15:56] heh, by the time LP is fixed for the kdebase-runtime for kde 4, rc1 will be out more than likely [15:56] nixternal: its already tagged [15:56] IF it gets fixed :) [15:57] that soon [15:57] you can add the PPA branch to your sources.list and install that way [15:57] IF it gets fixed that soon :) [15:57] that is what I did, I built kdebase-runtime though locally [15:57] (sad to say, I almost never use our kde4 packages except to test if they work or not) [15:57] I am going to try and start up my kollagame project again [15:58] yay! [15:58] and PPA will allow you to upload binaries, because I accidentally did it once [15:58] but not for the official repos right? [15:58] dunno, didn't try those :) [15:58] I didn't mean to do the PPA one either [15:59] nixternal: what about making the binaries on your PC and upload the binaries [15:59] I used debuil -nc and then went to the dir where my .dsc was and there were also .deb files...when I did the dput on the source_changes, it grabbed the .deb files and started uploading them [15:59] CPrgmSwR2: takes a lot of time and stuff? :) [15:59] CPrgmSwR2: I signed a contract that said I wouldn't do that [15:59] oh [16:00] ya, that is one of the guidelines for ppa, must be free and must have source, but seeing as the source is already there, I wonder if it is OK? [16:00] I am sure once kde4 is released that LP will get fixed [16:00] or even if it will still allow that [16:00] where is this "kde-icons-oxygen" that kde4base depends on? [16:01] stdin: it is created by the kdebase-runtimes package, that is the one that is failing to build against universe [16:01] if you grab the dsc in the ppa for 3.95 and build it locally, you will get the .deb file for it and you can install it manually then [16:01] nixternal: so in otherwords it only fails to build within LP? [16:01] I just couldn't figure out the source package for it, so I gave up :p [16:02] CPrgmSwR2: correct [16:02] but then, he could have just compiled from SVN (which he already did I think) [16:02] stdin: dget -x http://url_to_dsc_file [16:02] Should I create kde-devel user for compiling from svn? [16:03] you don't have to, but it is good to do, keeps your home dir stuff seperated [16:03] * Jucato nods [16:03]